20 Episode results for "Star Lake"
The Friendship Rucksacks
"The story is called the friendship rucksacks honor and Pietro with a best of friends sort of friends who would do anything for each other even if it wasn't their favorite thing to do. There was one day for example that Anna wanted to swim in White Star Lake but Pietro thought it was was way to cold but he didn't say anything because it's what she wanted to do and India and after that got up lumber stack mount and got in the late he could go to the water they had one of the best days ever in fact. Petro was having so much fun. He didn't want to get out and event. That was the one day when Pietro wanted to know how many trees that were in the forest. Well thought it was impossible to count them and a bit boring orange but it's what he wanted to do and so she pretended she was interested and excited and then in the end where they got to the forest and tried to count all the trees a soon found it so difficult that they started laughing. How silly the whole thing was and had another of the best days? They did things for each other because they were best friends and so as long as they were in each other's company. It really didn't matter who wanted to do what it would always be good fun but they weren't always together. They lived in different houses on different streets. And sometimes uh-huh they only got to see each other at weekends. So honor and Petro had a clever system during the days they couldn't play that draw pictures for each other or write letters and when they met up that swap drawings and letters gifts into each other's bags at the end of the day then when anor- got back to her house and Pietro got back to his house. They would find all the new letters and pitches and gifts and pretend they were still bill playing together. It was the perfect system that one day the two friends had been spending the whole afternoon. Storing pollen all in cones up a tree. It involved not running out of searching for Pine cones a lot of climbing up a lot of nests building in the branches a lot of climbing down again and by the time they got home to Anna's house it was time for Pietro to go home and they were both so so tired they barely have the energy to say goodbye and body mistake. Pietro left with Anna's rucksack and didn't didn't notice all the way home and honor carried petro's rucksack upstairs and. She was so tired she didn't even notice. It wasn't hers when she put it up on her desk well after. She brushed her teeth on a sat down on her bed and thought I already Miss Piatra Etro. I wonder if he's left a letter or a gift in my rucksack. So she herself over to the desk picked up troves rucksack EXAC and carried it back to the bed. This is a mowing match. Said Tros House. He picked up what he thought was his rucksack. Doc Suck face as a moeen. He said Anna's house she sat down on the bed and wondered what to do. I know she said I'll put a president and his rocks now and then at least will be there for when his mommy or daddy come over to pick pick up the bag in the morning. She wrote a letter and drew a picture of them both collecting pine cones and wrote honor the bottom and put would it in Pietro's bag to keep it safe but then an extraordinary thing happened. A magic thing happened. Petro sat on his bed in his house. Looking at as I'd when it began to glow fairy dust and sparks sparks zipped all around it and then it was calm again a little scared but being very brave he open the bag and found as a letter from honor. It must have just got there because it had a picture of them collecting pine cones and had honor written at the bottom. But how did it get there. Was it the letter elves. PA tro certainly didn't feel tied right anymore. This was amazing. He found a pencil and some paper and quickly put neatly drew a picture of lumberjack mountain and halfway up drew white star Star Lake where they liked to play. Meet you here tomorrow. He wrote and then he wrote Petro at the bottom. He placed actor inside the bag and did it up tight on his house. Honor sat on her bed and watched in amazement. As fairy are- Dustin sparks began. Zip around at troves back when everything had calmed down and shade steadied her nerve. She reached inside inside and brought out. Tros letter meet you here tomorrow. She read I looked at the picture of White Star Lake Lumber Stack Mountain. He wants to meet me tomorrow at the lake. Honor yelled who you talk into in their Dana's is mummy from the whole. Oh just myself and her said but what time did he wants to meet her. That was very important. Horton if you're going to meet someone you need to know what time she was about to write a note saying ten o'clock on a piece of paper but then looking around her room. She had a better idea. She took her red alarm clock and set the hand to one the two three four five six seven eight nine ten and then put it in the bag at Tros House on as by glowed and ferry dust and sparks zipped he opened it and took out a red alarm clock. It must be a message. He thought and then county where the small hand was ten. It's on ten. She wants to meet me. At ten o'clock he was a boat to write a message saying okay but then had a better idea. He drew a picture of thumb pointing upwards and put it in the bag. Can you imagine what happened at. Anna's Hannah's house zips and flashing Bang and she opened the bag to bring out a drawing of thumb and why was it pointing town. She turned the paper around always says okay. She yelled what's going on in their nothing so the next day. Ten o'clock the two friends met by White Star Lake halfway up lumberjack mountain and all because of their magic bags thankfully honor had remembered to bring a picnic and as they sat in the long grass by the water at eight it sharing some with a toad and Anna Remembered Pietro. Here's your bag back. But I didn't take it. I think set set petro. We might have a very magic system going on here. Let's keep each other's bags. Let's keep them exactly the way around round a are good. He dare laughed. Honor and how did the magic happen. Was it the letter. ELVES was was it. The bag pixies well. Who knows but what we do know? Is that when you've got two friends. who were as? Good of frightens as honor. Darren Petro Magic as always possible. Remember you can see Anderson. Douglas on Youtube just search for bedtime stories and Douglas.
SpaceX Starlink Launch Friday January 24th 10AM EST
"Hello everybody and welcome back to the space news pod. My name is Walden. I'm your host and I want to let you guys know about a thing you can do to help the show out. I've Lincoln the description. Four four Amazon an Amazon affiliate. I'm an associate and when you click on that link and you buy stuff on Amazon. I got a little tiny chunk from from the cell from whatever you do whatever you buy and from there. I can use that money to buy new equipment. I can use that money to traveled to rocket launches. I can use that money to do other cool stuff like help. Make this channel better. That's what I use the for and I put it all towards this. I've been doing that ever since the beginning. Buy New Equipment New Mike's new stands new lights etc.. So if you can if you got to buy on Amazon Click on that link and go from there should be A pretty straightforward. You go right to Amazon. So thanks for that. It and let's talk about some SPACEX launches now starlink launch coming up on Friday On the twenty fourth of January. Sorry it's GonNa Start at ten fifty four. Am that is if the weather is good and if everything is ready to go they did a static. Fire test with the Falcon rocket. So Falcons ready to Roll Falcons ready to launch. Whenever they get the right weather? Sure The other day they had to stand down for a little bit because The weather just wasn't cooperating. There was a storm front coming in. They decide it's not worth it. It's not worth the launch So they just kind of pushed back a couple of days which is totally fine happens. All the time and rocket launches everything has to be really great in order to get these things done so Friday. Ten fifty four am albeit live streaming on my youtube channel YouTube dot com slash space news pod at ten o'clock. AM WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT SPACEX WE'RE GONNA be talking about Starlink we're going to be talking about. Probably some crude mission stuff some crew dragon stuff and and then we're going to be watching the launch together. Now these things usually take about Depending on how many times they kind of postponed the launch. Sometimes they push it back a little bit Due to various things could be hardware problems. Software could be whether etc waiting for the perfect launch window but the launching sixty Starlink said license is the fourth launch of Starlink. So that'll make it two hundred forty starling satellites and I am so excited because is by the end of this year Elon. Musk said that we're going to have starlink in operation. So if they have enough of these launches they're going to have star Lake available to everybody in North America. So this is the other cool thing i. If you're not very familiar starlink let me go over what it is. It is a satellite Internet constellation. Meaning they have to have hundreds. It's thousands of these satellites in orbit around the Earth to beam the Internet to you. How crazy is that in? A beams was to a device. The size of a pizza box looks like a little UFO and basically they explained it as you put it on the ground able to the sky plug it in and then your devices connect to that thing not that big of a deal right pretty simple and end. It should be as easy as you know. Getting a new phone has pretty pretty easy to now. So you plug that. I didn't connect your device to then you're good to go and you have really fast speeds like you have gaming speeds with these things so hello gaming takes a lottery. Sources takes a lot of up and down Internet traffic. You need a lot of speed so Ilan was like you know we're GonNa may sound like but we're going to make a fast because nobody wants crappy slow Internet so they made these things super fast and and we're going to be able to do anything you can on your current computer on Starlink so this launch coming up on Friday. It's going to be pretty important because this is going to be The fourth launch the first three went off without a hitch. They're still testing a few things and changing The dynamics of the actual paint the covering on the satellites because astronomers were kind of Upset I'd like to say they were concerned. I should say about their views. Because if you have sixty satellites floating in front of your telescope and you're looking get up the night sky you're GonNa get a little bit of A little bit of brightness in there that you weren't expecting so unfortunately fortunately spacex kind of felt the brunt of that and now they're working on ways to cover up that shine and they're moving the orbits and you now making sure that everything works perfectly so astronomers don't get upset and also you can still continue to get really amazing Internet ed coverage via star. Like so my friends Friday morning ten o'clock am Eastern. COME TO YOUTUBE DOT com Tom Slash Space News pod. Were GonNa Watch it. We're going to talk about. All things spacex everything you want to talk about is let me know and I'll see there but until then make sure to check Amazon link if you need to go shopping and It's going to help out with my travels to do really cool content. Do More of these podcasts. I know you've been slacken autumn and I apologize but I'm back baby so I will see you next time. This has been the space news. pod My name is will walden and I will see you soon.
Belvedere's Amazing Avalanche
"Tonight story is called Bell Rock. It is amazing. Have a large red vine Ennis. Belvedere the enormous white and fluffy creature as tall and as heavy as a big car put on its end was at home on the Frozen top of lumber stack Mountain having one of the funnest days. He could remember firstly his friends been an Emily had come to visit which was fun enough, but then secondly, they had suggested going outside and making snow blocks, which was Belvedere's favorite thing to do and thirdly Emily had brought her music player and Ben had brought his speakers. So they were all dancing as they crushed the snow into cubes Belvedere. His big heavy feet stomped and twisted on the snowy ground. Emily's feet slid and jumped on the snowy ground and the Benz beat hopped and spun on the snowy ground, but in the forests halfway down the mountain the trees were shaking and on the surface of White Star Lake about halfway up the mountain off. The water was Rippling and whose feet do you think was causing this to happen Benz feet? Analyst feet or Belvedere's feet. It was Belvedere's Feats, of course off every time he jumped or stomped during his dance. It caused the whole of long bear stack mounting to shake which wasn't really his fault was eight. He was enjoying himself and everyone's allowed to enjoy themselves, whether they be big or little or in the middle but been Emily and Belvedere suddenly stopped bouncing when they heard a noise much louder than Ben's speakers. It was a rumble a bit like a storm. But the sky was clear and sunny Emily looked down the mountain. Oh, no, she said Ben looked down the mountain. Oh, he said and it's Belvedere looked down the mountain now Walt's cause that he said it was true. All the thoughts know was falling and slipping and tumbling over itself and crashing down the mountain Avalanches off extremely dangerous and hear the wall of snow was so fast and so heavy that it would wipe out. Anything in its path? What if it's slid all the way to horse Maulana Paul Belvedere had already been in trouble for letting a giant snowball rolling to town before Belvedere said Emily. Where's your Sledge a my car shake Belvedere and ran to grab his giant wooden Sledge. Give us a push Belvedere said been off to jumped in with Emily. We should head to the side of the Avalanche Belvedere pushed the Sledge as fast as he could before jumping on the back himself. Now steer towards the trees said Emily the Avalanche was still far below wage. Some but they were picking up speed as they headed to the side of the forest. Grab some trees Emily shouted to bed and he stuck out his right arm and a whole row of tall trees snapped off and he clasped them to pack his huge chest. Now. Let's go sit been fast as we can the Sledge hurtled down the mountain in until it's slipped over the top of the Avalanche. They passed the lower edge of the forest Where the River Google Glock Begins by coming out of the ground by some rocks and continued on to the grasslands where the mountain met the fields of gentle slope Farm. Now stop here said Emily and Belvedere stuck out an enormous foot and Doug massive off wrench as he forced the Sledge to a halt climbing out Emily instructed Belvedere to lay the trees out in a curved line that ended at the fresh stream. That was the river gurgle glug, and then told everyone to stand back of a launch hit the trees and the snow was swept over to one side lyrics blushed and crushed into the fast-flowing river more and more snow tumble down hitting the trees being swept aside into the River Palm. Then floating harmlessly away away dating site been in the center off whole small. Donna Poole mad up in was taking his afternoon walk across the twisty Bridge towards the Meadows on them south side of the river as he stopped on the bridge to look West with Lumber stack mountain in the distance. He took off his glasses and squinted. What's that he muttered. As he watched a white carpet of snow and ice made its way up the river towards him. Oh my gosh patents. He said and rushed back to the North Bank of the river soon. The whole of the Riverboat Google plug was no longer blue, but from bank-to-bank was gleaming in the sunlight with thousands of tons of snow from the top of lumber Stacks mountain and between the twisty bridge and the bridge of spires further Downstream. It had all clogged up to form a solid Lake of white. It was turning into quite a warm day off. And people soon came down to the river to collect buckets of ice to take back home to put in their lemonade and then people started lacing up their ice skates and going out on the throes and surface just wearing shorts and t-shirts wage to skate the afternoon away in his house Mister bibbing the newsagent was taking a shower when the the water suddenly turned icy icy cold, and he ran out screaming, but generally everyone found the icy cold River to be a welcome. Welcome treat. Off the two days all the snow and ice had drifted off Downstream and into the Albion see off the water in the river gurgle glug, fresh from the rocks by the bottom of the forest Oblong Box that mountain and warmed by the sun was soon nice enough to swim in again. But now whenever the town's folk of horse Maulana Pole to Halt and needed something to call them down. They had the perfect solution ahead ask Jacob and Emily to go to the top of lamba Stack mountain with their music player and speakers and hope that God. Belvedere was in the mood for dancing. sweet night Remember, you can read a long with medicine Douglas at Nana's and Douglas, Georgia calm. Moms and dads to help keep bedtime stories with Menace and Douglas advert free. Please follow the link below know to consider becoming a half Hitcher. Thank you.
Joe Bartnick's '91 Cup Dump
"Go It's the morning show Randy. Baumann Mike Pursued A and Bill Crawford joined by our friend. Joe Barney for another episode of soft dumps. Soft dumps nothing better than stop dump to correct it often. Joe Barton on DVD. You doing man I'm doing fantastic. How are you doing? We're hanging in there and this week. We've been celebrating the ninety one Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins and it really was the the jumping off point for the organization. It was the first sweet smell of success Verte boys. It was absolutely improbable. I mean let's face it. They had no success when my grandfather was library and said Oh. Hey, Harry, how your penguins! The men never lived to see. Listen so sad, but I mean they were just laughing stock. They were the clippers. Nothing good ever happen. They lost. They were three Oh in. I don't ever. I mean it was incredibly terrible. And then. That preseason they make the moves necessary to get their acting. Gear, Joe. The big move a couple of years before that was Paul. Coffee in remembers like. Off Peak. We got here Kramer. We need the top, but really what we needed was Badger Bob and Bryan Trottier in your of your yard. Not. Of course, the trade happened, which was huge. Because I mean people in this town love John Allen Johnny was loved, and everyone loves already is allowed to because he was one of the boys a winner so. I knew how Rodney Francis was, and they'd stag. He goes off Sanderson's Lambert cleats, so they could just name off each king as soon as he said. Yeah, I mean all that new blood coming in there and sixty six finally poised to get his do. He played half the season just absolutely dominated in. The beginning of the cabin Stevens, being the best our forward for about three years in the NHL, and we never had a guy that scored forty goals in had one hundred elements on the penguins right. Saint Stephen's. He was our own. This guy it was the best of course he was from Boston, but just the fact he came through the system just phenomenal. and. The playoffs I mean what is and we were down one to Jersey Rookie Yaar mere yager scores. Game Two in overtime. Then we have the Save Frank Peter Angelo. You're like Oh my God. We beat. Washington because they're the capitals, so we beat them. And now we're down to. You're like okay well. Always fun run! We're building for next year and then Kevin Stevens. We read the first penguin. It just had a big pair of balls. or coming back and. Remember that Mike's. there. Right approach. God is big barrel chest bug scores. Of course you know all we runs nealy which haven't heard of I've heard of every the rest of my lifetime. He knew that the exercise bike played like three more years. We play Golfie. It's kind of bull crap. You know it was the first sighting of Milbury. About within a guy with a shoe in the garden that was. Badger Bob Professor Goon is shot up Millbury. Gone Out of style. Exactly it was the first time. We, ever knew what a jerk wilberforce each. Shoe that he wouldn't shut up. The crime is since. Then the the finals I mean. Taken on Minnesota, they got the the rookie. Madonna was on fire. Squad takes the first game at the egg Lou from the penguins, but it was the game to the goal. You knew that the destiny had finally sort of set in for the penguins. They're joe. Fantastic I mean we of all Mario's goals, everyone. That's the first one though they show. I didn't to Larry's that we've always watched. The national one was so nice by urine. Mr Call last night. Where you're going to get. Mike, lifelock is your. We seen the video of the national guys making the call and that they let it ride. Let it run last night and they're saying Sinatra was there the night before, but you gotTA bigger standing ovation. Yeah. Remember! Remember game six. Eight nothing blowout. I get to see that game. Live because I had the ultimate dilemma ACDC was in on that nights out. Okay, so were they were playing at the glue that night. Though they were playing at Star Lake so my first. Of the penguins ever winning, the COP was Brian Johnson comes out I do terrible -tations. Pittsburgh congratulations, you wanted to Stanley Cup and then on the big screen. They showed abuse gate the. Place Goes Omar God. That was the right at the airport because everyone who likes. Towards from from the from the concert I never knew that that's see now. That makes perfect sense. That was already twenty thousand people at Star Lake. Who just went right to the airport? That of course I did not ever the one time I was saying. I I went back to my buddy's house. That we neatly into VCR, all day were just like. How can we go to the concert? Well, it's game six. It was the ultimate of knowing they was just incredible. Joe. Do you remember where in the concert they were when that happened like was it right in the beginning was at the encore. Middle and Unless I was losing, which could have possibly been happening? I think Brian Johnson came out with a tin foil Stanley up. It was running around, but I just remember the big screen and and kind of everything went black, because it's like was only regaining the of regaining game six. It was a whole lot of drinking that day. Yeah! I Bet I bet it was close to the encore. By the time you find out because you'd have to seven, o'clock game gets done around. Ten, o'clock. And it was, it was just phenomenal feeling everyone just lost. Their Imagine ACDC and Stanley Cup all the one night i. mean everyone just lost their minds? And then of course the legendary celebration in the park? It was so funny because. There is no parades. It was really just China Lake, the normal penguins fans been there through the eighties and Elvis showed up. Really I've seen I thought it was. Isn't that the one? When was it ninety two when? He said let's. Let's go down to the river and party. Ninety one yeah ninety two was at three rivers stadium. Erase. The tarp out on the field of Bryan. Trottier was doing the Rick Dempsey thing and running on the tarp with diving, and do it all kind of sliding. I! Think you're wrong on that. Crowd the job ever. Oppressive in terms of the amount of people that were there. Okay maybe I. WE still going to days and. I know that because I've parked up by Igloo they had been. They busted media in and it was. It was stopped to get there. and. I lived on the north side. I just remember walking down. It's kind of like walking on it so. Unlike, the last upwards been absolutely. tickertape parade. You know a US. To relive the championships like I've been saying least. We have a whole bunch to look back on while we don't have hockey for the moment, but Nice to get your perspective on things Joe partner host of soft dumps. Thanks so much man I always get a check in with the feel. Yeah, man. I'm hanging in there dismissing Hawk but other than that survives. I love you guys? Backed up. I'm glad we got zoomed in now at all. It sounds good now. We're good to go, but we'll talk to you next week. Man Hanging all right guys.
107. A Sneak Peak of a luxurious destination HOTEL IN SPACE
"We'll come to your online coffee break where we discussed. bite-size topics that inspires educates entertains. Here's your host a software innovator award winning marketer and astronomy and space boss stuck fields while twenty twenty is off to a great start for for space exploration. We've always seen several successful missions. Including SPACEX launching a couple of Star Lake missions which is going to provide Internet access to areas of the world previously underserved and some that are currently being served by other Internet providers. We've also seen the incredible inflight. Abort test from spacex making a major major headway for the commercial crew program we hope to see actual astronauts launched from US oil possibly as soon as April. It's been incredible credible year. And we're so excited but also exciting is the future of space exploration as it pertains to us the general audience. What's out there for us us? Well we do have interview coming up with a Tim Alatorre. He's with the Gateway Foundation and they're developing a luxurious space. Hotel Hotel which will tell you about in just a minute first. I'm going to introduce my friend. Richard Guenther as we explore. This segment called Your Space Journey This is worse. Richard tells us what inspired him about space. What he's most looking forward to your space journey? This is Richard Guenther from the digital media zone and I always podcasts about. Diy Home Automation called home odd. I remember my family. Fostering my first interest in the space program even as a little child I recall seeing the moon landing very little. My mother made sure I watched that historic event. Even though it was very late heck I even had a framed cross stitch pattern. My Wall that commemorated the landing. I think it was a gift from my grandmother so remember excitedly watching the first shuttle launch and landing with fleet all and excitement and of course the moment I learned of challengers faith was one of those few events that permanently into my memory. The exact location the people around me even the sound of my friend. John's John's voices. He told me it was then. I realized I'd likely never traveled to space in. My lifetime is a civilian eyewitness. My first launch fifteen or so years ago that's shuttle lit up the night sky not unlike the space x commercial resupply service launch chuck at night close saw through Nasr's social media outreach program. Aw I'm so excited to see the increasing activity and interest in space exploration again as we humanity prepared to revisit the moon and explore are the possibilities and opportunities available living off won't be among the lucky ones to experience that I hope and expect the next generations will. We'll think commonplace your space journey while. Thank you Richard for sharing your story. Really the appreciate it and folks we'd love to hear what fascinates you about space if you'd like to tell us a little bit more about your passion for space what you're most excited about for the future of space expiration. Just go ahead and give a call voicemail. Call us at three one seven eight six to forty seven hundred or email us an audio or video clip less than in two minutes please to send that email to info at your space journey dot com. Be Sure and tell us your name where you're from and what you're most looking forward to about the future of space exploration expiration and where your passion for space game all right now. Let's talk. Space hotels let intrusive special guest. Tim Allah Tori. Tim is the senior design architect of the von Braun Space Station and incredible new Space Hotel underway by the Gateway Foundation. Tim Is over twenty years. Experience in Habitat Design Graphics. Web Design programming and engineering. He obtained a degree in architecture from cal. Poly and is a licensed architect in California and several other states waits for the last nine years he's also worked at consulting subject matter expert for the State of California. Here's tim talking a little bit more about the foundation and his role role there. The Gateway Foundation was organized for the purpose of advancing starship culture and we have thousands of members across the world and more joining every day. And we all have to singular vision of trying to advance the movement of humanity into space and the latest project of the Gateway Foundation. It wasn't backup. The main goal foundation is to build the gateway which which will be a large city light station station in space and the first step towards that is the von Braun Space Station and so my role with the company. I am the senior design architects. And I'm chiefly responsible for all of the interiors habitable portions of the bone space station. I'm also my staff and I. We are doing the team. We're doing all the visualizations animations graphics whole station but myself and Dr. Tom Spilka who is a senior engineer ran. He's as the system architect for all of the the the main structural components and He's developed a a really important structural a spoke system which actually has a patent on it. The two of us we're the primary designers the entire station now. Of course working on the space hotel is truly amazing so I had asked him where his interest in space began in what fueled his passion. Here's talking about that. I have been fascinated with space ace and design and architecture since I was a kid so I started my whole design career really in elementary school and I had the singular goal throughout all of my adolescence of being an architect doc and a long way. I've been fascinated with everything space. I grew up watching Not The original star Trek but syndicated a The original Star Trek Syndication with my dad. And then of course you know Next Generation Start Star Wars in all these great science fiction things. We've all grown up with and so when the opportunity came in it's really been Just a a series of serendipitous events allowed my path across with Gateway Foundation. And you know when the opportunity came for me to participate it was a no brainer. I said yes of course and so Over the last several years now we've been working really it closely together on what we hope will be very first space station with artificial gravity. We'll see that's where I'm really impressed. Because I'm against the site gateway speeds baseball DOT COM. You have just one animations and wonderful descriptions of just how in depth that you and your whole team has been in developing the gateway and you mentioned this before but I understand. The first goal is to develop sort of a robust space construction industry. You know we gotta be able to contract and space then the first artificial gravity station which is called the Von Braun Station and then finally the gateway tests a little bit more about this verse components. Yeah I think you hit on. Probably the key part they are is being able to build large structures in space right so if you look at the International Space Station By comparison to what we're wanting to deal with the Bombay station or even the gateway it's tiny but every station leading up to the International Space Station was Larger in another evolution. International Space Station was the first As far as I'm aware of the first structure in space that was built of component parts that were then assembled in orbit and so The National Space Station or relied heavily upon man's spacewalks eventually sleep with Canada arm and other robotic of tools that are now in orbit a lot of docking in other extra vehicle or extravehicular activities can be done with unmanned systems but Probably mentioned another company volunteer which is orbital assembly and that's a California based space construction company which really is hand in hand with the Gateway Foundation so orbital assembly is the construction on the Gateway Foundation overload. Assembly is working to develop all of the the the robotics and the man pods is that will assemble the station. So credible bit the von Braun Space Station itself the main familiar with the structure of it. But there's a is basically to think of like a bicycle wheel here's a center hub and spokes radiating out with an outer trust. We call our outer ring trusts so the outer green trust in the inner trust will be prefabricated. Steel components prefabricated earth or might be going aluminum. I can't remember ever return them back right. No metal component which will be fabricated here on earth and then in orbit they will be positioned and welded and there is a robotic assembly Component that. We're calling the tall which stands for the von Braun Trust simply line and and it's essentially a mechanism where the raw materials get fed in one end their position in the line. Then they're welded. And then the trust comes out on the other end. So we'll be able to fabricate the entire trusts in orbit out of component parts and then the the spokes in the Hobbs in the habitable. Horses will be assembled goal to it so The technology is all. There is just a matter of getting all the technology in one place towards a singular focused so the fabrication and prototyping for the hall is going on now and we're hoping to be able to Release some information on that and photographs and things soon but about that piece has begun so that's step one and orbital assembly is spearheading that once else we have those components in place then will launch and start putting together the main station and the von Braun Space Station will be that big first step right love to. I'm sorry for nursing the bumper on station. It's the smallest component but compared to the I assess. It's huge. I just wanted to give some idea of the scale of that and the gateway station eventually. Yeah so the. The von Franz Space Station has a diameter of one hundred ninety meters and around the perimeter of it we have these large habitation modules and there's twenty four of them two of them will be dedicated to The air water power the systems of the station. And then the other twenty you too will be for use by by people so restaurants bars lots of thing the total square footage of floor area It is is a hundred twenty five thousand square feet about eleven thousand six hundred square meters incredible so significantly larger than the US. Now the next step up from that once we have the von Braun and we've proven technologies. We've done the research on how humans doubts and low gravity environments next up up will be the gateway the gateway will have a diameter of about four hundred ninety meters so going from one hundred ninety up to four ninety the the gateway will have an earth gravity habitation ring where the devan stationed and initially. It'll be lunar gravity. One six earth gravity with the possibility of US ramping them up to Mars gravity that will be determined on in orbit. Tessin listen and what we determine is feasible see. I did this incredible too because a lot of people I know I was this way at first two when I thought of general artificial gravity. Oh you do is just rotate the spacecraft. Well there's gotta be a certain size involved in this he can't rotate a small spacecraft. Because from your head to your toes you get dizzy every time you turn your head where ben down and so I I guess you guys put your heads together. And this is based on the ideas of Ashley. Von Braun himself is that true or yeah the initial conceptualization sexualization of this was really popularized by Dr Verner. Von Braun in the nineteen sixties. He did a whole series of videos. Walt Disney the idea of a rotating space station was around for a couple decades prior to that. But he's the one who really popularize did the initial research there have been studies done and you mentioned kids that differential and gravity between your friends. There were studies done in nineteen sixties on earth. There haven't been any INOVA. Tessa this right. We don't know exactly what the research is for real world conditions right. What tests have been done on earth where you're also dealing with just earth gravity based on the research the maximum that a person can in and it's really a at some angular momentum issue not necessarily a size issue? Okay so the bigger you get the less the slower you can rotate right. The RTM's decrease and so when the RPM range from the research has been done on earth somewhere around two and a half revolutions up to six revolutions per minute before somebody but he starts to have negative effects on the Coriolis effect and that differential gravity We're playing it safe with We've been saying about lump. I five revolutions per minute to make the math easy but really the station. There's going to be initially rotating around one point two one point three revolutions per minute so put the outer habitation level of the station at about one six earth gravity or lunar coolant gravity. And we feel that that is a safe place to start from. The research has been done on earth for not having You know people passing out or getting dizzy or all the sickness that can come from moving opposite the you know the anger momentum issue. Well let's talk. Let's talk about something. That's kind of fun. Aspect is this is literally like a cruise ship in space awesome. You mentioned The restaurant and bar module they care be the gymnasium. Kim Tesla more about those sorts of amenities that are quite simply out of this world. Yeah so the daily show. I don't know if you saw. Trevor Noah picked up and was talking about the station a little bit. He was joking that you know you are at risk for fifteen minutes and then what you do take time rich and I hope that might my hope is that people will be able to spend time on the station and enjoy some time to reflect reflect on just what it means to be human looking down on earth You know we'll have facilities where people can paint on music and and enjoy artistic endeavors. That might take more time. But yeah there's there's parts to the restaurant and bar module is more of a practical issue. People need to eat. We're going to have people there for a week or two or more. They need food. And so we're GONNA have a full kitchen. And we'll have shipments coming up In fact alone mosque with their starship announcement. They announced that they're going to be having a multiple flights starship per day which is way more than we anticipated. We are thinking maybe one service or two services to the station per week but now if SPACEX is planning during multiple launches today there's no limitation on how frequently we can restock stations food supplies but we'll have full kitchens kitchens bars and yeah they'll be practical side of that but we also want to be great so we're looking at cruise ship models and how they're dealing with their their servicing of food. And then I think the the part I in the most excited about is probably our gymnasia module And the modules they have twelve foot diameter the habitation modules and so on the gymnasium. Ajit will lower floor which is set pretty low. And then you're GONNA have about ten meters above you for playing right so so if you look if you think about the astronauts Neil Armstrong you know skipping across the moon and I forget who was hit a golf phone right but there's just I can have reduced gravity environment so I'm looking for. That's incredible now. WHAT HAVE BEEN I? Guess the biggest challenges so far with the design inconstant Yvonne Brown. Well there's there's a whole series of challenges at every everything so my my training is an architecture right and everything that I've been trained to do on earth revolves around the constraints of earth. And when you start moving into not just zero gravity but we're looking at a low gravity environment which is something that really hasn't been designed for before and so we've come back we. We throw all of our assumptions. We went to below zero base design where we started looking at like. You're saying how does the human body react in different different situations. How do you stand up from a chair? How you sit up from bed? How do you Go upstairs right one six gravity how you go from one for the next so from my standpoint looking at the the human habitation part of it. That's probably been the biggest challenge is we're stepping ping outside known reality right here and trying to anticipate how people will be able to move through spaces. From a technical standpoint SPACEX has been making this a lot easier when we started the conceptualization to promote bronze space station. We were dealing with a Falcon heavy was on drawing bores as potentially the largest launch vehicle spacex gave us a great gift with starship right nine diameter it fearing now Just this last week. They announced a hundred fifty tons to orbit and Elon. Musk has been touting potentially next version. That's even bigger right. So the launch. How big of a piece can launch? And how many launches and the cost of launch. That's been our biggest fertile but it just keeps getting easier. So that's that's been a huge gifts. Tim what's your time line for for this project von Braun to be in orbit. Yeah we're trying. To track with SPACEX actually and so on Muskie he kind of dropped drop the gauntlet and said they're going to have people orbit on starship within potentially six months I'm not sure if we're going to be able to hit that deadline. But were pushing to have von Braun Operational L. by twenty twenty five and says I mentioned were were starting with the hall and then Moving to orbit assembly and and then the inhabitation modules in order for the station to operate we need four to six modules in orbit. And so. That's the goal by twenty twenty five to have four to six habitation modules module's orbit and then build out the rest of the the modules by Twenty Twenty S. Incredible Timothy. I thought was fascinating. Too is just how you're funding Your project and now you're encouraging viewers and listeners out there to get involved and when really aspect is you have a lottery. Can you just a little a bit more about the lottery and the funding and how. That's going yeah so the lottery isn't in place yet. And we really see the lottery as being the funding source for the gateway which is a much larger project. A Bomb Ron Space Station is on a bit more traditionally through through stocks and adventure capitalists and different investors. But yes we do have the Gateway Foundation which has really been It's been crowdsourcing in a sense where our members can join. There's a free membership with an also. There's paid memberships and the members get certain benefits so for example. We had a voting on the station name and our members. There's got to vote on that and we actually have some other things that the membership is going to get to vote on them decide and so through that we've been getting a lot of excitement and some initial l. seed capital which has allowed us to do along this upfront Design Work and then For the station itself von run space station. We are looking at we want to be self sufficient economically right so the operational mattel and all that will eventually pay for the station and the next stations. But we're we're selling real estate right so we have condos that will be an station and and wealthy investors can pay to have a condo in space. We're also looking at private investors. But yeah the gateway. I think I think that's what you're talking about the gateway station. They really exciting and that we do want to set up a lottery and we're constrained a little bit on the galaxies out right now sure of trying to figure out where exactly is the best place to start that lottery but members were just anybody can buy a lottery ticket for a small amount and then they'll have a chance every year to to win when a trip to the station and the great thing about having the bond bronze space station operational before the gateway is our members who are buying a lottery. They'll be able to win tricks to the von Braun Space Station so while raising funds for the gateway we can be giving away free trips and other benefits. o- Tim. That sounds so exciting. I just I just want to wish you and your team. Just the the best luck with incredible adventure cannot wait to see this thing. Come to life and I want to thank you for taking time to join St. Thank you so much really appreciate it. You're welcome thanks for having me online coffee break. While I really Joe McConnell with Tim him today and I'm so excited about the upcoming space hotel how about you would you stay there or were you WanNa wait to the first few people that actually stayed there. I I don't know I think it would be an incredible experience and the views could be spectacular. Anyway I WANNA thank timber. Join US today if you like to learn more org the Gateway Foundation just their website at gateway spaceport dot com. I want to thank you for joining today's well. We'd love it. 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Ep. 555: Satellite Constellations and the Future of Astronomy
"EPS Five fifty five satellite constellations Sion's futures from welcome to his strong castor wheaton fact space journey through the cosmos. We help you understand. Not only what we know but how you know what we know. Brazil Razer Cain publisher of University with me as always Dr Pamela Gate a senior scientist for the Planetary Science Institute and the Director of Cosmo quest and so again this week. We are at the American Astronomical Society Meeting and the other big issue that was hanging over the entire conference is the impact Ah Starlink and the various satellite constellations that are in the process of getting launched. There's already one hundred. Eighty satellites in space from Starlink making it the largest satellite provider in the world. And there's going to be thousands tens of thousands more satellites so starner's WanNa we know what was going to be the impact. What mitigation strategies are there? And what does the future look like. When there are tens of thousands of satellites orbiting the earth? What does it mean for astronomy? All right let's into the episode all right so so here. We are back at the American Astronomical Society Meeting in Honolulu Hawaii and and we last episode. We talked about the big controversy of the construction of the thirty meter telescope. Here on the on the Hawaiian islands the Bit other big controversy. That's going on is of course. The starling constellation and literally just a couple of days ago. SPACEX launched launched the third batch of starling satellites another sixty satellites into space. And I it is safe to say. Hey that astronomers are outraged. I think that's an under Sabin. Yeah and there. There were three different arguments. Demint put forward and I have to admit at the top of this episode. I am somewhat biased. I desperately want to see the digital divide to be overcome and low cost Internet Internet to be available globally and Starlink promises. That and so a lot of what we're GONNA talk about. Today the issue comes down to whether or not you trust. Trust Elon. Musk to actually implement the low cost in the low cost Internet so the three arguments that we heard today against Starlink And one was a cultural problem of old but the children if you see satellite zipping around in the sky will people still fall in love with the stars. Will your experience visiting a dark sky site. Turn you off to astronomy if you see satellites and the cry of outrage. We heard was that people won't be inspired by the sky if they see manmade objects now I have to admit I distinctly remember exactly exactly where I was the first time I saw satellite. I I was up in the mountains of the caucuses camping beside a glacier and and I was sitting on a rock all by myself because being a teenager is hard and I was fifteen and sometimes you need to sit on a rock by yourself from your fifteen and and the satellite. I just saw something moving in the sky and I realized what it was and that realization of I'm alone on orrock beside a glacier but there's a satellite moving through my stars that at the age of fifteen was amazing moment and this idea that satellites make it impossible for people to fall in love with the stars. I I don't think that's the case. But it was one of the arguments arguments put forward and getting together to the second but but sort of like from a practical technical standpoint win. The starlings are first launched launched. They are actually very bright there about magnitude two or three which makes them easily visible to the unaided eye from many spots on the earth and they look like this train of moving across the sky. Call this this string of pearls and end and then as the starlings raise their altitude up to their final position of about five hundred fifty kilometers altitude the dimmed back to about a five magnitude which is at the very limits of the human. I can see in Nice dark dark skies and and but of course in the eyes of a of an astronomer that is incredibly bright. Eight of fifth magnitude star is very bright star in in the eyes of telescope and then the other problem is that when when when they pass across the sky they will really only be visible to astronomy when they are low on the on the horizon during the summer months. So when it's when the night is the longest the night is the shortest. You're going to get really. You're only going to be able to see these satellite right. Aided the right after twilight and right before sunrise. And and that's it you have to be and then for the for the rest of the night there won't be any satellites delights but as the nights get longer the satellites get brighter over C- over the entire night sky and so they're anticipating baiting that over some of the the big observatories in Chile and in the Northern Hemisphere. When you're in the middle of the longest nights you're gonNA see these? These satellites run across the entire sky. So so there's no question that these are going to be very bright objects that are going to move through your field of view and I leave streaks and one of the things that people keep bringing up is there's already thousands of pieces of stuff. There's eighteen thousand thousand tracked pieces that you can pull from the database right now. Eighteen thousand seven. I think you can pull from the database and you can track the position using celestis and other other things like that. Yeah so there you know we know and to adding another twelve hundred. which is the goal for link? So so let's narrow this down even further so there's eighteen thousand things up there. Prior to the launch of Starlink only two hundred objects were naked eye visible. So Oh you can only look up two hundred different things in heavens above and go outside and see them with the unaided eye with Starlink. They're adding well over for a thousand by the end of this year to the list of things that will be visible to the unaided eye and its brightness that is really the problem. I was an observational astronomer. For a number of years before realizing I am the rain God in those years years that are as an observational astronomer. I had myriad satellites go through my images but because they were low brightness objects there'd there'd be the straight line of pixels that well I couldn't see stars in but that line was the size on the sky. I that the satellite was on the sky. We starlink what's happening is these well captured. photons that are reflected off of the satellite delight. There are so many of them that they saturate the pill pixels spill over to adjacent pixels wiping out a larger swath of your detector than the satellite alone would wipe out. And when you saturate a pixel that saturation can cause the next. Several images to have ghosts hosts of that satellites passage still visible so not only. Are you wiping out. A larger percentage of pixels with that satellite but you're wiping them out across multiple images. Yeah and and so you know a lot of these these these satellites as they pass the field of view view can overwhelm the sensor and essentially make an entire observing frame worthless and the speed that they're moving is of great concern into these dreamers as they as they move through it's about. How quickly is this thing moving through your field of view? And how long do you have to not be able to take data data while this while the satellite is is moving through so so they're they're quite concerned just about overall in the time domain as well and of course the the big observatory that's going to be the most effective is the newly renamed. That's a different controversial. I know that's like a third the Third Controversy Jersey. We won't get into that but the newly but we. I think we can all agree. That the Vera Rubin Observatory is a wonderful Navarine Observatory and that is going to be the. That's that's going to be the facility that's going to be deeply affected because it just is staring wide eyed at the sky for all all night capturing as much as they can as deeply as a canon so every frame is GonNa have starlings and one ebbs and all this past them and this is this this is a problem of because it has a giant field of you. The probability that there's going to be a Starlink in any one image goes up if you have a small field of view. There's the potential that you can time your images to avoid having star Lincoln them but because this is a huge field of view. You your ability to do. That is greatly reduced. And they're going to end up picking up. STARLA starlings left and right and here's a question starts to become one of mitigation so folks are working with spacex to see okay. What do we need to do to reduce the brightness of these objects so that they aren't blowing out the detectors? Yeah there's more than that so so Someone from spacex actually gave a presentation this morning and that was actually a bit of a surprise and they didn't do a very good job of letting us know that this is is going to happen. There weren't a lot of people we have the whole ballroom and there wasn't a lot of people they're listening to her her talk. They mentioned essentially a couple of mediation strategy. So the first first thing is with this first launch they have. They've applied some darkening materials to one of the sixty satellites to see if the some of their ideas to make them to have a lower Albedo lower flexibility. And before you laugh at the fact that it's only one the thing you have to take into mind mind is these suckers were already largely built in preparation and turning around and re fabricating that takes time and so my suspicion. My hope is that that they were only able to fabricate one with the new materials fast enough to be able to test and I think it's you know. No this is how you perform an experiment right. Is You you isolate. The variable does putting all this material on one of the satellites make darker than the rest and and we'll find out what happened happens so so that's the first thing they did is experimenting and and this is a good sign. I mean this is like literally. This is the first time I think that any satellite constellation Elation has ever had a conversation with Strana mors and said what can we do to minimize our impact on your science. I don't there's you know the two hundred others others that we mentioned plus all the eighteen thousand. No one's ever tried to make them not bright in the eyes of strimmers so till the first strategy is to try at a paint them so there will be the second thing is to provide an open source real time. Location of all of the satellites in the Constellation and to communicate with the other networks. And anyone out there. Who is who is going to be relying on knowing the position? These starlink so in theory as the as the Constellation gets built your of your telescope operator. You're going to know when a Starlink is going to be passing through your detector and you'll be able to shut detector down. Wait for the starling. Pass opened the doctor again. And continue to get your to get your data so you won't necessarily get that that if you've got a very precise amount of time you'd be able to use it carefully. Navigating around satellite as coming by the other thing is they're going to provide a very specific and I forget what the technical term was but essentially the the launch trajectory of each new constellation as they go up so when that first trail is starting to head off into space and it is going to cause horrible streaks in any telescope any amateur Astra photographer is going to get this as well. They're going to sit there. You're going to know when that when Constellation is going to be passing through where it's going to be just to to plan your observing observing time around those starlink launches and it only you know it's only a few months or really. It's only a few days a week that they're in this trail l. and these are the spread out and shift themselves to that higher orbit but but the second problem that we're talking about one of the additional parts to to this is well so far SPACEX has been extraordinarily in in terms of trying to build a relationship saying look yes. We're going to work with you. Here's all ways we're going to work with you. SPACEX is just one of a myriad of companies looking to do this and so is China when they start launching their constellations. Are they going to do the same thing with open source abilities to track. Did you know that China launched more rockets last year than than the United States. Yes yeah so so like this is like whatever happens starling. There will be a Chinese version of Star Lake. And what is going to happen with all the other companies looking to do this because you know spacex is doing doing this. It's just a matter of time before we see the same coming from Amazon and wealth from everyone else so while things so far. You're if you're willing to trust that they will do what they say. And this is a sticking point for a lot of people I understand. While it's promising. Promising for SPACEX. We don't know what the future will hold and this is honestly terrifying to a lot of people. Yeah Yeah there's a lot of really bad people because they're anticipating thing and it's an enemy it is so interesting and I hope you're already starting to kind of Echo. The previous conversation that had had it is completely flipped around. You've got astronomers who have this resource of the the night sky that they're using to gather data data it is it is sacred to them. And you have someone coming in and the Internet over the the Internet wanting to take wanting to utilize this resource and the astronomers being being concerned and wanting more dialogue and wanting to have their concerns taken very seriously so obviously the the whole irony of the situation is not lost using the same word they really. Are they making a purely emotional arguments saying but this is our cultural heritage this sacred to us. It's the exact same argument it absolutely is and so you can see the same. The same method for being able to resolve. What's happening with Hawaii is going to be the same method? It's GONNA be resolved there. There was a couple of other really interesting things. One is the the sort of the opportunity to be able to resolve this like like with regulation. That ship has sailed that horses out of the Barn and in fact the people who are who are the astronomers who are working with spaces eighty six on this have said right now there. There is no regulation option to be able to stop space x from doing what they're doing to stop these. The the only one issue which was that In the radio spectrum. And this is the third prob right okay so in the radio spectrum There was a very specific set of the radio spectrum that the the astronomers authority that the satellite constellations aren't allowed to use. It's this three hundred. Two hundred and fifty megahertz and it accounts for about one eighth of the spectrum that these these constellations are able to use and they were able to get them to see that part of the spectrum actress for radio astronomy which has already sort of partly been defined by by regulation so they were able to ratchet that back in. So you've got this part of the spectrum which originally the satellite constellations us and they have agreed to not use in order to continue eighteen protecting that spectrum. I Ronnie and this gets back to the relationship issue because one of the things that we heard over and over was but they haven't turned on the satellites and we don't trust alum to have actually done what they said so there's a lot of fear right now because there isn't the relationship that these constellations installations aren't going to do what they promised and are instead going to do as the iridium satellites did and just stomp all over the astronomical protected parts of the radio a spectrum and so again these two problems completely parallel parallel each other. Where because there's a lack of trust because there is a lack of of relationship the communications companies are saying? We're just trying to get Internet to remote parts of the world. The people and the astronomers are saying. We don't trust you and could you could have at least told us what your plans were. And we could have worked with you over years to come up with strategies and use all that engineering capability that you have to minimize the impact on both the night sky for everybody and because I mean I think that yeah we've lucked out with this batch right. Yes you go outside in almost any circumstance you will not be able to see starlings airlinks like. They're not going to be this grid of dots in the sky that you're going to see and it is going to Besmirch your vision of the heavens but as as we enter the space age and we get our You know and and we get our gigantic rotating space stations. We'll get our we're going to this guy and you're going to lose the sky. Yeah it is and so that is the downside. The downside of that Star Trek future is watching starship a banner prize shine brightly in the night sky. While you're just trying to watch the meteor shower as the enterprise flies overhead and I'm kind of okay with and but but what we're saying is a lot of this comes down to people are currently afraid and fear isn't facts facts so when you hear people with both Monica as we talked about in the last episode and Starling as we're talking about today saying saying but we don't trust but we are concerned that this is sacred to us. What you're hearing is one group if if people who just want to try something new amazing advanced society and another group of saying but we don't care about your advancements we're happy the way we are please go away and we need to build relationships if we do want to move forward so that we can move forward together and sometimes be able to say? I don't agree with you. Yeah Yeah but we've talked this out and you've heard what I have to say so I'm GonNa sit down and support you and this is something that comes out of the software community. Allot you hash. Everything out figure out how you're going to move forward. You have all the disagreements but once you come to that conclusion you support the path forward forward but you have to have the relationship. Yeah let's let's. Let's work on building the relationships. Yeah I think I mean obviously the the the position that I've had For quite a while is is it is it is now inevitable that everyone on earth is going to want access to the Internet it. It is the way that we as human beings will connect and so then the question is what is the way. Are we going to build millions another five million cell towers around the world and it will take more than five million more cell towers to to complete the last mile to get everybody online. Or How many cell towers to win. WanNa go with five G.. What is the impact on on a story is that he has five G. Five G.? What's back to five G. on I mean it looks like those are actually pretty serious transmission power and and? We don't know whether it's going to do. They're radically eight weather. Yeah the sound strikes on and on there are millions of birds that hit cell towers right right and and beyond that just the fact that it is cost prohibitive to run fiber optics tech's to all the little islands of the world to run the wires to every rural village in well Canada. Yeah you gotTa Lay cable through sensitive that of marine environments. You've got a big big long fiber optic tunnels through permafrost through. It's madness to to consider under the engineering to planet Earth. It'll be required to provide the same level of Internet access that that these satellite constellations installations are going to provide and one thing that we did talk about a bit is is that there's GonNa be multiple constellations. There's not just Starlink. There's the one from Amazon one in web has already launched six satellites. The one web ones are at an altitude of twelve hundred kilometers and they are visible for the entire pass through the field of you. There's no time that they're not visible. They're always visible but they're dimmer because they're farther so they're only eighth magnitude but which is still highly bright in in any telescope and there's going to be more those and as you said the Chinese ones there's the there's the Amazon Amazon is planning three thousand plus satellites when one of the phrases that was used today is this is an existential crisis. Yeah do we protect the skies at the cost of our environment as we lay new communications lines in towers across the world to we sacrifice the astronomy to erase the digital divide. We find a way to maybe compromise compromised both in protect a few places. There are after all places and I believe. It's Virginia where you can't use a cell phone because of the radio quiet zone there are compromises but they require relationships. Yeah and and with one hundred and fifty dark sky preserves around the world the account for one hundred thousand thousand square kilometers of space in twenty different countries. The you can go to and you can see the Milky Way you can see the night sky in a way that that the vast majority of humanity will never see it and if we lose those spaces we will lose that connection to the night sky with light pollution and peeks into every single corner of of of planet Earth. And there's no place you can go to see the sky as it's meant to be seen that will be an absolute shame and I really hope that we can figure out some kind of compromise that allows us to continue enjoying the sky. Continue to you do science but also be able to connect people around the world and and and I don't think anyone knows the solution yet. One one quick additional comment I know people are asking about this idea of painting. The the satellites black or use Bantu black or stealth technologies and someone actually brought this up in conversation. Komo in the press conferences and they were saying that that in fact The problem is is that if you paint the telescope black. It now radiate in the infrared ed so the visible astronomers have an easier time with the night sky but now the infrared astronomers have a worst time and of course this whole time. The radio astronomers have just screaming in pain from the From shouting telescopes. So it's it's it's it's GonNa be a thorny issue and I sort of wish we had started could conversation nation ten years ago as opposed to now as these constellations are going up one after the other and this is really a case that has brought about because the astronomers were off offseting doing their Strana me quite happily not worried about. How do you get the Internet to the rest of the world whereas the communications companies is that well make their money off of? How do we get more people on the Internet? They were thinking through this. and Dr Phil Metzker is someone who's actually done some interesting writing on this and just points out that this is a necessary step in the communications Haitians Infrastructure of building society in the future. We will probably figure out how to do things that are lower latency. Which means there's there's less lag? Time between the two between sending and receiving the signals that they can be handled in a different way than just sticking satellites in low enough orbits to drop the latency. Well also not having huge power choir minutes. We're not there yet. And so this is a temporary temporary step and we don't know what the future is going to be can be bright. Yeah well it's going to be polluted. So so here's the thing though you'll still be able to see the Milky Way. These aren't providing the kind of light pollution that a city provides this. This is the kind of light pollution of you're looking at the Milky Way and it's like there's an airplane dashing across it except it's moving much faster and isn't as bright as an airplane airplane so if you can imagine if you've ever gone camping someplace that isn't dark sky preserve. That doesn't have air traffic above it if you've ever gone out to a farm if you've ever gone out to yellowstone you can see the Milky Way and then you also see all the air traffic that's what we're looking to is. It's going to be like a lot more air traffic but you can buy still see all the faint things if you're trying to take images you're doomed. It's the people who are imagers that are doomed. Yep Yeah I mean I already have to throw away so many frames from Astra photos. I can't imagine how how where this is going to go. Oh next all right well so I hope that gives everyone the update which is the Starlink marches on astronomy. Astronomers are continue you to be outraged and we will continue this conversation over time as more and more of these satellites go up and more. Hopefully mitigation in strategies are are figured out. Well thanks Pamela. It was Super Fun to you as always hanging out with you in person here in in one of these American Astronomical Normal Society meetings. It's been ten years since I've been to one. I don't how recent spin a few years for me as well. Yeah this is an important one. But I hope people enjoy all of the content that we've been streaming bringing back and who knows maybe we'll go on to the next one and he didn't do it so I will his guide to space and and question answer shows are about to have a flood of amazing content. So check this out if you haven't already and if you want to hear more about the news that has come out this week. Take check out the daily space that we're putting out with cosmic quest all right and we'll see you next week. 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Maybe they have an addiction problem some like that instead of getting thrown in jail locked in a cage they are steered towards a helping hand and someone that can actually help them with their addiction crisis today. Today I am joined by two awesome guests a police chief and an expert in addiction recovery who have teamed teamed up to create just an awesome program right here in Pennsylvania one of a kind program and I'm I'm not I don't think I'm going overboard saying this but this is going to revolutionize the way that addiction and policing happens in Pennsylvania and very well could revolutionize the way we look at this throughout the country. 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I like to refer to it as my podcast gas listening device. Click subscribe. Please give us a little five star rating leaving. I sorta review. If you like what you hear and you can also Mosey on over to our website lines lines of liberty dot com you can drop me an email felony Friday at lensofliberty dot com and let me know what you think. Let's stop beating around the Bush guys. Let's get started with today's episode. Today's episode of Felony Friday. We're going to be talking about a very unique and important program right here in Pennsylvania state where I'm located. This is the other side of the state. I'm in Pittsburgh. This is over in elizabethtown borough. We're going to be talking about a program called second chance P._A.. It's a pre arrest diversion program for addicts addicts and it's the elizabethtown borough and North West regional police departments who've joined up with blueprints for addiction recovery and they're establishing resources that favour rehabilitation over incarceration hope over helplessness helplessness life over death and today. I'm joined by blueprints for Addiction Recovery C.. O. Christopher drives box say hello Christopher everybody felons not and Elizabeth town police chief Edward M Cunningham how John just call me just call you Ed yes okay. I'm glad we got that out of the way I was going to be calling you <hes> chief Cunningham the entire show so let's Chris has been on the show before I think about I think it was fifty episodes ago Episode One Thirty Four Felony Friday so you know we don't need to hear Chris this whole back story you know he went into that of that episode. We don't need to rehash that we're going to be I want to focus on this program because it's so unique and I think <hes> from what you from you guys are doing and really implementing <hes> in your local community. I think I wanted to shine a light on that so Chris but if you could just tell us a little a bit quickly for people that haven't heard that episode is a little bit about blueprints for addiction recovery and why you're so passionate about helping people suffer from addiction so blueprints for addiction recovery is a state licensed drug and Alcohol Treatment Project. We operate out of five separate locations here in south central Pennsylvania <hes>. I'm personally very passionate about this. Criminal Justice work with chief Cunningham and the other police in this area because I myself was arrested and the M._A.. Felon <hes> I spent nearly seven hundred days of my life in jail for drug related offenses and things related to my addiction and really really loves working with progressive people like Ed to help other people avoid the struggles that I had to go through. Thank you for sharing that Christopher and <hes> ed if you could just tell us <hes> what attracted you to a career in law enforcement and what's your career progression been if you've been elizabethtown the whole time if you have you moved around a little bit now I actually I am a third generation police officer. My Dad and grandfather were both police officers and I got my start. I worked at a couple of small departments. Uh south of Pittsburgh part time until I finally in nineteen ninety five got hired full time by the city of Pittsburgh police and I had a wide range of experiences working at twenty. Three years with Pittsburgh worked my way up I finally when I left Pittsburgh. My rank was lieutenant and I I saw the damage that was done by drug abuse and drug use and and I saw that we were arrested in a lot of people for <hes> for small amounts of drugs and when what they really needed was help the problem was i. I just didn't have the resources to do anything about it. In Pittsburgh on January of last year I got hired as the chief of police here in Elizabethtown January eighteen and just through the progression of doing doing my job I met Chris and we we came up with this really really interesting idea of trying to let the police be the gateway to helping people who need help get help in my career I've done I've done some works some work in drug work some in crisis negotiations some in patrol. I've I've had very widely varied career on but this is one of the things that I've always been passionate about is trying to get people help who who need the help. That's fantastic so what what community south of Pittsburgh I live south of Pittsburgh. I actually worked out in Hanover Township in Washington county out where it's now. I guess it was the Star Lake amphitheater yeah so I was one of the officers that worked there. Her worked real hard in the summertime and not at all in the winter not not much going on there in the winter. That's so I'm curious. So this program you guys met. Each Other was at Chris did did you did you approach ed or how did this <music> come about that. I'm not a thousand percent sure <hes> think maybe my office reached out to him as the new chief of police and we just wanted to talk a little bit about blueprints and what we could do to help residents of Elizabethtown and really just introduce them and little did I know that Ed was a progressive police chief that really wanted to make an impact in people's lives and change the way things are done in Pennsylvania. He can talk a little bit more about the small meeting that turned into this awesome program it it started off as just a when I first got here I was trying to meet as many business owners as I quoted and with Chris being a business owner here in town we got it set up through a mutual acquaintance and just plan to have a fifteen minute meeting and we started talking and that fifteen minute meeting <hes> initially turned into about a three hour afternoon and that's where we really got the ball rolling for the second chance program Yeah I do remember Chris called me. This was probably before the program started. I was <hes> we have a mutual friend in DEL currency ran for U._S.. Senate and I remember Chris Talking about how excited he was about this program <hes> and just the potential of it before it even rolled out so <hes> I know that how long has has this been implemented for like. What's the what's the time for when was the kickoff date percent? The official kickoff date was January first of this year we were actually doing some test cases through the end of November and into December and got a few you people connected with the service as we were trying to work out the all of the details but the official launch was January first of this year okay and just to give some background on how it works so it's a pre arrest diversion diversion program for addicts so what types of cases what types of situations would this program and feel free. I should probably say whoever can best address the question just jump in because both address it. I mean this isn't directed to any one of you but how does that work on case by case basis chief the things the things that we're looking at for pre arrest and pre arrest diversion is just <hes> one one portion of the overall program and Bay we look at the second chance <hes> when we were building only Chris and I were building at we took the best parts of a number of different programs from around the country to put it together for something that we thought would be unique and really address all of the pro the problems that we saw that we were facing and for for ray pre arrest diversion it would be something that's a small level <hes> a small amount of possession or paraphernalia charge or maybe something like <hes> Chris and I were just talking about this earlier here today. How a lot of times theft cases are really the the the addiction is the motivator behind theft case and so if we have a small theft case that might be a a that might be a candidate for for the pre arrest diversion <hes> basically it's? It's not it's summary cases very low level misdemeanors. Were obviously not going to be ignoring felonies <hes>. We're not going to be ignoring anything violent <hes> when I'm saying felonies. I'm saying things that the criminal justice system says has to be addressed through an arrest <hes> it's going to be the smaller ones wants the smaller cases that we would have the discretion at the magistrate's Office to knock down to a fine or something like that those are going to be the kind of cases that were that are the true pre arrest diversion <hes> some of the larger cases. We're not abandoning those people if a person comes to us it or if we come in contact with the person who needs the help but who is facing a more serious charge than the police officers go into more of advocate role and we still make contact with the recovery specialist we still make contact and make a referral through the second chance program and and we move into helping them get the help that they need once they've addressed the legal issues that have to be addressed <hes> but another big part of the program is that we've also turned the police stations nations into <hes> gateways into to safe places that a person can come and say <hes> you know. Excuse me but I need help. I can't do this anymore. I need help and if they happen to have. Move a little bit of paraphernalia on them or a small amount of drugs or something then that would be something that we're not going to arrest them for asking for help. That's great so so from there once <hes> so say someone walks into the police station say one of these arrests are is made or I guess before they're arrested what happens then is blueprints contacted or how does how does that play out. The officers can call and the officers have received training on how to do an initial assessment of you know. Is this person a good candidate for the second chance program and we have a phone number through blueprints for the <hes> the certified recovery specialists and there are several of them that Chris has on on call for us and we have a number that we can call twenty twenty four hours a day seven days a week anytime of the day and we have a commitment through the second chance program that someone you know a live person will answer the phone and we'll talk to us and will if if it's appropriate will come out whatever time it is will come out to where we need them and begin the assessment <unk> process to get this person into help immediately and that's one of the things that makes aches our program unique among all the other programs in the country that we were able to find is that we have the C._R._S.. Who will come to the scene of where we are and begin immediately working to get the person help C._R._S. stands for certified recovery specialists so that's somebody who has trained to meet a person where they are a person who is pre recovery to try to get them into recovery Br and certified are loving overlords at the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania so Chris this this initiative second chance for P._A.? Eh How's it. How's IT funded is it? A part of blueprints is it a separate entity is entirely separate entity from blueprints. I obviously the C._E._O.. Blueprints the blueprints blueprints is in everything that I do <hes> but second chance as a completely separate initiative <hes> up until very recently it has been completely self funded by blueprints and myself personally <hes> we are very close was to attaining nonprofit status with the great overlords. It's federal government and at that point we will then shift to an entirely different structure where we have a board that includes several notable folks and chief running included <hes> and will then be able to begin fundraising and have it become its own self supporting entity and hopefully show everybody <hes> that private citizens can do a lot to help this epidemic excellent excellent so this went into effect several months ago. Can you give us any idea of what sort of impacts been made so far. Is there any anything you can share troops. That's okay we've had today. <hes> we've had fifty six referrals. <hes> mostly through the the three the three partners in the very beginning were elizabethtown police north west regional no police and Susquehanna Valley E._M._S.. We were the three who got in at the very beginning and we're slowly bringing in other police departments and other E._M._S. providers to start making this program available to people where they need it <hes> we we actually have training scheduled for two other police departments coming up in the next month or two and I Chris and I both have meetings with several other chiefs chiefs to try to expand the program but at this point we've had fifty six referrals and we're doing pretty much anything that we can think of to get this help out to other people. <hes> one of the things that were were doing is that we got Chris Involved in coming to our D._U._i.. Checkpoints and we have a blueprints specialists recovery specialists. I'm sorry a second chance recovery specialists coming to all of our stationary D._U._i.. Checkpoints so if we find somebody at a D._U._i.. Checkpoint who needs who is suffering from addiction and needs help were able to get it for them immediately immediately right there on the scene at the at the the stationary checkpoint and we have we have some very notable success stories are very first referral to the program Graham. Actually we kicked off at what at noon Chris like at noon on January first and we got our first call at seven o'clock that night and it was a a woman who was suffering from alcohol addiction who was at risk of losing her nursing job and second chance was able to connect are with Rehab and with the services that she needs and she was able to complete the the beginning part of that and my understanding is she's doing very well with beating that addiction. That's fantastic if I can add to that John Thank jumping that was actually before January first that was before we had leaving officially launched at that we've done the training with encountered. A wonderful lady passed out behind a dumpster and when she woke up from her alcohol induced stupor she got a little aggressive with the officer turn thankfully that officer had been through our training and he understood a little bit about compassion in times of crisis and a little bit about the brain science of addiction and he had four thought to say hey. Let's call the cert recovery specialist and get her some help now if she had gotten charged charged with attacking a police officer or public drunkenness or whatever it might have been she might have been at risk of losing her nursing license and through this program our first case <hes> saved ladies nursing license saved her job or means of of living and I'm assuming that without alcohol she's probably even a much better nurse than she was previously so just in case number one I think we made a pretty huge impact right away yeah and contributing value to society. That's <hes> that's it's winning all around so you're talking about the training Chris what how extensive is the training and what are what are some of the things that are that are taught. The training is very extensive <hes> that somewhat sarcastic but. <hes> we do we do the first twenty minutes or so on the brain science of addiction actually teaching the officers that out on the street interacting with people about the brain science of addiction so that they understand that addiction is an illness and not a choice and it's pretty eye opening to a lot of them because it's information that most of them were never really shown or introduced to <hes> we go on a little bit after that we talk about the levels of care and proper treatment for addiction so that they understand and what's going to happen to the people that they encounter moving forward and then afterwards we talk a little bit about being compassionate in times of crisis and understanding that the people that they're meeting are in fact possibly at the low point of their lives and in extreme crisis even so it may not appear to be so in every time we talk a little bit about <hes> my life and things that happened with me and how I was able to turn things around and how police officers were able to have impacts on me be they positive or negative and it's really just was a spirited discussion more so than training even right so looking at this program a year from now five years from now ten years from now <hes> what's what's the Vision Vision. What what's the goal? I think the overall goal long-term would be to have addiction not be a crime. I think really <hes> treating it as a health issue and not a criminal issue with the help of Great Progressive Police officers and at least chiefs <hes> in the area I'd hope within five or ten years we can get this as close to statewide as possible and <hes> we're in it for the long haul. I don't plan on retiring for at least another fifty years in chief. He's getting a little closer than I am but it's my vision I dunno et what the long-term vision also touches on the as I say like the one A and one b but the tied for first most important part of of of the second chance program is that we're also one of our major goals in major visions in the program is to kill the stigma between people who are suffering from Addiction A. and police officers and two from both from both directions <hes> we want to show people who are suffering from addiction that they don't need to be afraid of the police that we really do want to get them help help so in working together and showing them a level of that that a level of trustworthiness that they can ask us for help and we will actually do what we say that we'll do and we will connect them with the services they need. We will not sneak up behind them and drop charges on them. Two months later three months later you know that we really are going to do what we said that we would do and also also from the point of the police officers introducing them to the fact that the person who suffering from addiction is a person who has an illness. It's you know they're not all criminals. They're not not all the dirty word of addicts. There's there's someone who suffering from addiction and that if we start to see each other as human beings than we can start to work together to make it so so that addiction doesn't kill anybody anymore and Christie WanNa talk about how we're doing that with the the meetings. Oh yeah sure <hes> so we've actually started doing groups in our treatment centers with police officers coming coming in and breaking down that stigma sitting together with people suffering from substance use disorder <hes> really spending an hour and a half an hour talking about issues talking about issues that people have against the police talking about the police stigma against drug addicts and it's just been a real real eye opening experience for everybody. That's been evolved so far because you see the reactions of people who are in treatment looking at a uniform police officer in their space and they're they're noticeably bothered other noticeably upset <hes> scared a lot of emotions happen said then the counselor that facilitates the group actually will work through it with them and try and figure out what the root of that fear is trying to figure out the root of all the the negative connotation that comes along with police and drug addicts Senate. It's a real beautiful beautiful thing to watch and thankfully I've been able to be a part of three or four of those as a person who used to have a strong hatred for police now sitting in a police station with a chief of police talking to you so it's just a real beautiful stigma to get an end to because there are police that are out here to help people who are suffering and I love this is just so awesome to here and you know a couple of things are rushing through my mind. <hes> no seeing the the two of you guys are reasonable people coming out of this from different perspectives and I'm just thinking you know why isn't this happening in more communities <hes> <hes> that's the question to ever wants to take it but what's really holding us back from having a program like this in every state money. I think money has has a lot to do with it and it's a really think that it was two guys drinking. A Cup of coffee said <unk> at both of US said Hey. We got this really dumb idea. Why can't we make it happen and the the more we we started building on it? It was the two of US sitting down and saying why can't we make it happen and you know I it took a little bit of courage on his part to to say to his partners. Hey I want to bring hiring. You WanNa make the police are partners in this and you know an an for me to talk to police officers and say we're going to try this new this new thing and we're going to try everything that we can to make it work work and just I think those are the two big things is why we're not seeing more places is just nobody nobody's tried it yet and the stigma sigma stigma real as well is <hes> and and realistically as a former not a former but a current fallon a lifelong felon until Governor Wolf pardons me and hint if you're watching <hes> you know until that point most felons islands don't associate with police officers realistically speaking we're we come from different ends of the spectrum and to be able to bridge that gap and stand shoulder to shoulder and talk about how we can help be invested in the health of the community and how we can help don't do anything we can to help our community move forward. I think there's just a lot of people that haven't even thought that was possible and that I think might be stopping other people from doing it as well but I can tell you that I've met countless police officers. Search who loved this initiative and take the initiative extremely seriously and I couldn't be more proud to call them my friends today. That's awesome has the I know. There's been a couple articles written. I I read them in preparation for the interview interview but what what type of media coverage would you say there's been do you think it's this has been covered adequately across the state or not across the state. I mean in south central Pennsylvania. We've had all of our local news stations. Save One <hes> cover the beginning of the program <hes> follow up and then just recently the other night we had one <hes> follow up with a specific case and see how she was doing and she's been sober now five months in doing fantastic yeah really just crushing life and they they've chronicled at the newspaper. Did you know one article here in Lancaster <hes> so with limited media that we have in Lancaster County. I think they've done pretty tremendous job chronicling and we've also been using our social media are getting it out and whatever social media outlets we have access to you know we've been publicizing it there as well so one last question what about other police departments have from across the country as anyone reached out asking about what you're doing maybe trying to to use this model or asking about a similar model in their state across the country. No <hes> as I said before we we've made contact and we're starting to slowly expand within our county and we have some interest in your county which is right next door <hes> but but I'm also I know I'm going to a statewide conference next week. I'm going to be talking about program there and we're just we're starting to push I I also I wanna be careful that we don't outgrow too quickly and and then not be able to fulfill our promise by growing too quickly but we definitely <hes> you know Chris and everybody WHO's working at second chance in supporting that from his end they've got some great plans in place and all we have to do is just connect with other police departments. That's a really good point. I hadn't thought of thought of growing quickly but I really could happen especially when you talk about expanding into two more populated areas where you're going to have you know higher quantity more instances of of cases. Where were you need people to to be able to to to be president? It'd be on the scene so yeah. I hadn't thought about that. <hes> so how I mean what what's been <hes> what's been the strategy so far with with ramping up Chris everybody able to find enough people to enough. What is it A. C. C. R. S. so you're saying right? Yeah Sierra's got me we could we could hire CR S for days. <hes> literally all across the state. It's relatively new position that <hes> the state created probably two three years ago and there are increasing number of people attending that certification and there aren't really all that many jobs for them so I think that this could solve even some economic problems as well if we were to go statewide but again being self funded and being a soon to be funded on donations alone. It's going to take us a little bit because Philadelphia's a big Old City and I don't know if you've ever been to Pittsburgh chief but that's a big yeah yeah so well <hes> that'd be a good problem to have <hes> hopefully that's the problem that <hes> you guys encounter here in the in the near future <hes> growing to grow I mean you rather grow too quickly than <hes> than not have interest in implementing the program so I just want to give you guys both a chance to <hes> to talk about where people can learn more about the this initiative where they can <hes>. Maybe I don't know if I guess they can. They get involved with donating yet is that is that possible or so probably within the next one to two weeks. We should have a donate button up on our website at W._W._w.. Dot Second Chance P._A.. Dot Com might become an org at some point. I don't know we should have a donate button up then as of right now now we are not officially allowed to accept donations but if you want to keep your eyes peeled on the facebook page second chance P._A.. <hes> there will be an announcement hopefully very soon as soon as the I._R._S.. Allows us to accept donations for this purpose any other and of course <hes>. I don't know how you you can make a link available but you know anybody who's looking for. Information is welcome to send me an email and I'll share every anything that we have <hes> the promotional materials that we have I have them all in Chris does to have them all electronic <hes> electronically stored so we can email them out very quickly and for other police departments that are that watch your podcast definitely. Send me an email. Give me a call and I you know I I love this program. I love how it's working here and usually if you get me talking about it I'll go on on and on about how it came about and how we run it and so if you have your even just another police officer who's watching this podcast shoot me an email. I'll give you some information you you can tell the chief to call me and we'll talk chief the chief and I think that's how we're going to make make those contacts and get this to grow and the the good thing. Is that what we have at least from the police side is something that any police officer can make a decision to do there are there are treatment providers everywhere in the state and if they call us we may not be able to get them get to them right now because where they are <unk> Chris and his team of people have contacts throughout the the state and <unk> pretty much throughout the country so if they call me I can get them in touch with Chris and get them help right now. I think it's important to note that you don't have to be from Elizabethtown to come to the police station and get help. You can literally show up at this very location <hes> right now if you're from Pittsburgh if you're from Philadelphia if you're from Scranton if you're from williamsport short and you're struggling and you don't know where else to turn what else to do come here come here. The officers will connect you right with the certified recovery specialists in it's one of the most beautiful things in the world to watch a police officer help. It's awesome <hes> I just want to thank you both for for coming on the show and sharing this but more importantly for for you know being so instrumental in putting this program together so the links that you talked about <hes> chief Cunningham. I'll make whatever contact information. Information to give me I'll put that on the show notes page with which I'll share or I should say which was shared at the beginning of this episode and everyone heard where they can find it so that'll be available and <hes> for people to reach out and also in a couple of weeks here because podcasts are up forever so people here this two weeks in our three weeks an hour a year from now they can go find the second chance P._A.. And and donate their so thank you guys both again for for coming on the show and <hes> for for fighting widen to change this problem with addiction to solve. Thanks thank you hope you guys enjoyed that conversation as much as I did that conversation that I just had you just heard with Christopher derise Bach doc the C._E._o.. Of Blueprints for addiction recovery and Edward Police chief Elizabeth Police chief Edward M Cunningham two guys that are you know they're making a huge difference right now in their local communities in Pennsylvania and I would not be surprised if we're talking about them a couple of years from now as to leaders who have really paved a path forward <hes> for the way we look at addiction and policing in this country and a way to break down stigmas so addicts are looking at police in a different light in a better light in a way where police are actually here to help. They're not here you're to ruin your life and also a place where as we talked about on the show where police are looking at addicts understand that they're dealing with someone who is struggling through an addiction who was not in the right frame of mind and who needs help who doesn't the need to be charged with a crime and thrown in a cage and <hes> have <hes> that hung over them for the rest of their life and potentially lose their job and <hes> really lose hope <hes> Chris Chryssa or they talk about on the website on these second chance P._A.. Website <hes> they talk about getting rid of hopelessness and replacing it with helpfulness and that's exactly what they're doing and it sounds else cheesy to say that but it you know it's just so amazing to hear the these to talk about it and they make it sound so simple and it is simple really but the hard part is as they talked about is convincing because their stigmas on both sides really really ingrained strong stigmas on both sides here against people who suffer from addiction and from those addicts on those people who you know Mike fellows might have previous run INS with the law probably do with their attitude towards police officers and it's not like it's out of thin air. This is just the way things are. This is the way things have been. This is the way things have been. This is the way police officers have treated addicts for <music>. Ever police officers looked upon as someone who was there to help. They're not looked upon as someone that you can go to if you are looking to find a path forward to stop your diction find a treatment center get connected with people that want to help you kick your addiction not people that are going to throw you in a cage which previously and still throughout the entire country. That's what police officer police police officers are doing if you're found with a small amount of drugs a small amount of <hes> of Paraphanelia than there's a very good chance that even if you have your life together and you're working but you might be weighed down with his addiction addiction if you do have that arrest that interaction <hes> with that incident <hes> with police then it very well could derail your entire life and I am so thankful that <hes> that Chris and chief cutting him have come together here and are really just paving a new path forward and my hope for this podcast. My hope is that first of all that you are amazed this is happening. You're as amazed macy's. I am so excited to hear that this is happening. I I don't know if you can hear my voice. I am so frigging excited to see this happening in my state in Pennsylvania. It's not happening on my side of the state unfortunately but it's happening happening in Pennsylvania and I'm so excited to be able to help these two out to give them a platform and what I want you to do. I'm going to ask you to do those of you out there listening to this show. Maybe you're just a regular guy like me. Maybe you've never had a you know a run in with the police. You haven't been arrested. You haven't had a problems like that. Please share the show or maybe you're somebody who has who has had run INS with police. Maybe you're foul and maybe you're. You're an addict. Maybe you've struggled <hes> with different substances and you've seen the problems you've seen how a life can be derailed by an addiction. Please share this show. This is a path forward. Maybe you're a COP <hes>. Maybe your former COP. Maybe your police chief. Maybe you're someone in the media. Please look at what these two gentlemen are doing. Look at what they've put together with this initiative and please share this show. Please shine a light played on it so we can spread this around not only the state of Pennsylvania but around the country because this is a reasonable reasonable path forward. This is so easy to see that this needs needs to be the way police need to interact with addicts. The old way isn't working the old way is leading to more and more people dying of overdoses two more and more people being sucked into the back alleys the black market taking dangerous drugs that <hes> with if a couple of things are changed their life could be steered in a way where they're not making those decisions so when asked you to share the show asks you to subscribe to the lines liberty podcast. 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"The story is cold Ombu Stack to the north east of hosmer. Lana poll. That's there's a huge mountain cold lumber stack it snowy at the top it's got forests in the middle and towards the bottom the green open pastures where cows graze rapids hope and a stream of crystal water gives everyone a refreshing drink when they're thirsty. The very top up above the forests in the snow lifts a friendly monster cold Belvedere. But that's not the strangest thing about lumberjack mountain. The strangest thing is that you can have three very different days weather on it at any one time. At the bottom it can be warm and sunny in the middle in the forests it can be misty and spooky and at the top it can be blowing a fierce icy storm. All at the bottom it can be cold and dry in the forests it can be raining and the snowy top it can be sunny and warm and so if you were headed there for a picnic or an adventure knowing what you should pick out up to. Where was very important? Luckily Belvedere the monster with wake up every morning and look outside is ice house down the mountain and post today's weather on his blog for anyone to read and today it read overs changing about so when Ben and his sister. Emily were busy packing for them mountain hike. They put on swimming gear. Shorts warm trousers a- vest a a t shirt and a snow jacket that pack everything they could possibly need for the journey to apple's a cherry pie four bottles of water and some lemonade as a lunchtime treat. When mummy drop them off in the CAA by the heather at the bottom of lumberjack mountain it was mild and sunny the perfect place to have their lunch and maybe share what was left with the rabbits and the cows? But Emily said we've only just. I got here Ben if we have lunch now we won't be hungry at lunchtime. Ben said that maybe they should just have half an apple each the energy and then continue up. The mountainside agreed said. Emily and we'll have some of our water to when they walked through the pastures in the lowlands and got as far up to find the beginning of the forest. It was colder and it was harder to walk through the thick undergrowth now. They were both glad that they hadn't eaten their lunch early to think that they had a nice cherry pie in the bag. Made everything feel a little bit more comforting. The forest wasn't always nice. If you didn't know it well and Ben and emily had only been here once before and that was with Mommy and daddy eighty then. It seemed like fun but now it seemed lonely and a little bit creepy but Ben and emily want the salt adults to be scared by a few trees and soon they reached a nice calm clearing there they could see two things a huge wjr dorm at the top of the mountain and a beautiful clear lake the salt that mermaids might live in we will never get all the way to the top with silly weather like that up there said. Emily no way said Ben and exhausted. And I'm hungry if we can't get to the top then maybe we should eat lunch here and then go back down. Well be aim of the day. had been to get to the very we talk and say hello to Belvedere. who had made friends with the last time but emily was right? It looked cold and dangerous. Why ruin that -Oday out so they unpacked a cherry pie and aided by the crystal clear lake then? They drank down all of their lemonade eight. The forest wasn't so bad really and they relaxed and started to laugh. It was very very warm. Like a lazy summa afternoon. I fancy swim said Ben and without warning leapt into the water. Emily thought what you should never go swimming without. Mommy or daddy but ben would be safer if two of the Marin there so she jumped into they swarmed down under the water and explored. There were several fish the remains of an old building and right at the bottom. Well you'll never the F.. I guess what was right at the bottom. Was it plants mud or sand. No right at the bottom of the lake was was a big lever. It was covered in slime but they can make out the words engraved at the base. There seemed to be three settings Ching's for the lever to be pulled to sunny top windy top and stormy trump. Emily looked at Ben through the water. Autre this must be the weather choose for the top of the mountain. The fish must play with it. And that's why the weather always changes at the bottom of the lever was an Arrow and it was pointing to stormy tope together. They pulled and pulled and pulled and switched the lever to sunny top and then swum for the surface. When the heads came out of the water they looked up the mountain two and saw the clouds clearing it was glorious up there and the snow at the summit shined like diamonds? The forest wasn't nearly as scary now. That was warm sunlight falling through the brunches and soon they made the long climb out of the forest in to the snow and right up to the top from there they could see all of Hawes Mawlana pulled and even their house. The Sun was bright and they didn't have a care in the world except I wish we had some lemonade said then I could do with some lemonade. Emily suddenly felt I E to. She had her water but lemonade sounded even better. Why why did they have to drink at all by the lake? I'm going to close my eyes and wish lemonade. Said Ben don't be silly laughed. Emily shaking her head. That doesn't work but then closed his eyes and wished and wished and wished changed and then hurt the clink of glass by his feet. He slowly opened his eyes to see two luke bottles of fresh lemonade. Or thought you folks who host drink off to climb said a voice. Ben and emily turned around to see a huge burry friendly shape of Belvedere. They were so pleased to see him and him so pleased pleased to see them that they rushed into a huge hairy hug but just then the wind whipped up and it started to snow. Oh those silly. Fishes Chuckled Belvedere. They've been playing with that lever in the lake again and so Ben. Emily and Belvedere hurried up to his ice house where it was always cozy always safe and there was always soup and toast waiting to warm them up sweet night. Remember you can see Anderson. Douglas on Youtube just search for bedtime story and ductless gone.
SpaceX Starship tests on hold and Starlink makes Astronomers Upset
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So astronomers at this point have seen these sixty satellites and they have told the Lon must basically, we don't want these things in the sky, because we can't do our jobs and we can't enjoy the night sky with so many satellites in the way SpaceX is starship, which is there human capable. Able rocket. It's basically a spaceship that will be able to hold one hundred people and cart them off to places in our solar system like the moon like Mars, etc. All they do testing on these star ships in Boca Chica beach, and Cameron county announced that closures related to space x testing have been rescheduled. The county posted notice earlier this week that the testing schedule for late may was rescheduled to the week of June third. But then that testing schedule his been moved onto the next week has been held over for another week and these tests. I mean they're kind of like they're not sentenced him. You know, you can reschedule these things if you need to make adjustments to your spaceships because while it's a complicated process. To get one of these things to actually fly up in the air and SpaceX wants to do untethered hover tests on starship, so something isn't exactly right with their internal testing before starship, actually hovers in place, and they've already done hovered, tether tests. But they wanna do tests above the ground. Sixteen hundred forty feet for low altitude and sixteen thousand four hundred and four feet for high altitude tests. So it gets a little bit dangerous, once they do on tether tests, because you never know exactly what's going to go down. And that's why Boca Chica beach. They shut down the road around where SpaceX has got to be testing these brackets. And it state highway four actually, in, it'll be closed on June eleventh, so we're hoping that June eleventh will get more information about star ships. Hopper tests in once we get up to sixteen hundred feet, that's a pretty high altitude for somebody. Like me. You're you now what happens if this rocket for some reason, and we don't know what could happen to this thing. I mean crazier. Things have happened. But what happens if everything goes crazy? The thing explodes in mid air, so they have to shutdown these roads and, you know, rocket explosions do happen. Rocketry is hard space exploration is hard. So that's why they shut down these large masses of roads for awhile, June eleventh, look out for that in the coming days. And I'll be right back with some more news about SpaceX about their Starling constellation of internet satellites. Hi everyone. I wanna let you know about inker dot FM as we're I hosted podcast in, I find that it's the easiest place to do that. And it gives you everything you need in one place for free. Which you can start. Podcasting from your phone, or from your computer. You don't need special crazy equipment to start doing it. You can talk into your phone video, editing equipment that costs thousands of dollars to start a podcast, you can do it from anywhere in when you're done, recording your episode anchored at FM will distribute it. So it can be heard everywhere on Spotify. Apple podcast Google podcasts. Stitcher, every place that podcasts can be heard, and you can make money with your podcast. It's pretty simple. There is no minimum listenership to start making money with anchor. So if you wanna make a little bit of money while having a cool podcast, while download the crap or go to anchor dot FM to get started. So SpaceX has launched sixty communication, satellite so far. And these communications satellites, startling basically super high speed internet. Via satellite and strana members aren't really happy with what speaks us SpaceX has done so far because they can see Starling satellites when they look up in the sky with their naked, is my, what am I friends actually saw them he was in? I think was in Maine. Some somewhere on the east coast. Can remember he was traveling but he looked up in the sky. And he, he didn't realize that it was star lake satellites. He was like, what the heck is at thing. What are all these UFO's in their all in a lion? You know, they look like a caravan of satellites. So if a normal person can see them, not really caring about the nice guy, you know, like you just kinda glanced up, and he saw them had explained to him, you know, like hey Starlink is up there. Now, these astronomers they're very worried that their views of the nice guy are going to be clear anymore, especially if SpaceX gets their twelve thousand. Starlink said lights up there. So the international astronomical union, which is a key ruling body. When it comes to the night sky, they've actually released a statement that basically said, I'm gonna break this down for is easiest possible. Basically, we can't see the things that we want to see because they're satellites in our way. There needs to be regulations around the said lights, so astronomers can continue to do their jobs because they don't want to be interrupted by satellites. Basically, if you're looking at an object deep sky object deep space object in the night sky, and you're photographing at you're taking measurements of it in a budget said, lights fling by that are visible, you can't do your work, and it's just it's not cool. I mean, it's cool to see satellites, right? It's cool to look up. And he c satellites flying by. That's neat. But astronomy is super important. So these people at the international astronomical union put out a press release and said we don't like it. Let's figure out a way to manage all of these satellites that'll be coming because there's not just a Starlink. Right. There's other companies out there that want to do this, too, and they see a prophet in the future. And there has to be regulations, international regulations that stop or, you know, figure out a way to mitigate the damage that these satellites are doing to the nice guy, and it's not only visible these said, lights use radio frequencies to transmit data back and forth, from the satellites to the ground. And also, there's radio astronomy, which could possibly use the same frequencies as these satellites. So they're really worried about that as well. And these said lights could interfere with something like we just got an image of the. First black hole. Right. The first image of the black hole, and that might not have been possible, if there were internet constellation of satellites up there, so. That's what they're really worried about. 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"For the honor you might not recognize the battlecry but you've probably heard the name she wrote and he man at least a few times in your the one thousand nine hundred cartoon series. Everyone has at least like an ambien awareness of shiro and he man. It's just such a part of the fabric of our pop culture. Just the zeitgeist. I guess that's noelle. Stevenson and twenty eighteen netflix's charged her with rebooting sheera for the modern age. As soon as i started getting into it it just felt perfect. It felt like the perfect thing. And i was obsessed with it immediately. I'm your host brandon jenkins in this episode. We're going behind the scenes sheera. I we'll be talking with showrunner noelle stevenson about how they paid. Cash the original cartoon series what they updated for a new audience and how the actors helped writers and animators developed their characters. Then we've got a special interview with the actress who voices shira andrew human alter-ego door. Aimee carrero amy shared. How according as a cast elevated the show and gave us an inside look into how she plays iconic character. We're going to be touching on a lot of themes stories and plot points from all five seasons if you're ready to hear more than grab your best friend squad. Because this is behind the scenes sheera in the princesses a power on the edge of grain turning darkness to light. I besides you ready to fight before we dive into deep. Let's recap some sheera mythology for you. Show takes place on a planet called a theory for years. The theory led by the princesses at power have been at war with the hord an evil intergalactic organization of super villains. We first meet door when she's a horde soldier having grown up in the horde army with her best friend catcher come on catra for senior cadets. No i can't believe you're still pulling such childish immature. What but when a door finds sort of protection that allows you to become the mystical warrior. Sheera she changes sides in joins the rebellion the door ak sheera finds herself leading the princesses of power alongside her new friends both in princess meanwhile catcher rises in the ranks of the horde grabbing power. Wherever she can't. I am so much stronger than anyone ever thought noelle stevenson. I found success through her web comics. And the mona in the hit comic series lumber janes before jumping into the world of animation. You might expect that to be tapped to lead to reboot. The well must have been a lifelong fan of the show but she actually didn't see the series until much later in her life so i didn't grow up with. The original shiro was a little bit before my time. I didn't actually watch a lot of animation as a kid. I i watch some but my parents were not big on tv. We were pretty religious. So we everything had to be sort of vetted i i did watch. The prince of egypt allied That was kind of like one movie that was like solidly. A-ok you know. My parents can loosened up as i got older and as a teenager like a younger teen i got really into teen titans Kim possible a lot of kind of action. Adventure shows in that vein. And i think you can see a lot of that. Dna xiros well. It wasn't until i was an adult. That i really developed that appreciation for shira and he man and that was sort of like something that happened while i was becoming a professional in animation. Sw even though you didn't necessarily grow up with the original sheron real time you're still charged with bringing this year to a new generation with some of the things. You all wanted to make sure that you've kept for this version. So the things i sort of zeroed in on from the original is that plays a lot with the good and evil and the way that those lines kind of blur. It's always been a two hander between the villains and the heroes so says much catcher story as it is she says the executive i was working with in development breath cannon. She had grown up with the original was a huge fan of it and so this was sort of a passion project for her. She really really loved the original but she also just things that she wanted to see change and so one of those was she really wanted to see the characters deepen in their interactions and their relationships to each other deepened specifically the relationship between the door and catra when she was watching the original she had always thought they would have known each other like they must have grown up together. They must have known each other in the horde. How come they never seem to have any emotional attachment to each other. And i found that really inspirational right off the bat and so that was always my approach with shiro was like are the characters always central. Are they making sense is satisfying because that is what carries you through. That's why people keep tuning back in. You know it's because they want to see their favorite characters. They want to see what they're up to. They want to see you know the satisfying conclusion of their stories. Good and evil is like in ever lasting idea. But i don't know if i've ever seen that captured in a way that feels so dynamic like i'm curious. What other changes did you wanna make an order to bring this show up to date to make a contemporary together saying that she Requested was that the characters designs be updated so that they were really really distinct from each other. It was like kind of a standard thing about time in the eighty s that all the characters were pretty much based on the same two models. There was kind of muscular male figure and then the like curvy female figure and there was really not a lot of going outside of those boundaries. A little bit there were some funky characters in both humanitarian sheera. But mostly the major characters all fit into these very idealized bodies but that was something we really wanted to update and modernize show that anyone can be a hero. You don't have to fit into any kind of mold especially since we are not quite as like toy driven as the original was. I want to take the risk of being wrong here. But i feel like the characters were changing on screen and what i mean by that is like in most shows the characters. Look the same from start to finish but in this show it feels like they were changing like they were growing up. They looked more mature. Or did i just make that up. No i think you're totally right about that. So back in season one. We're designing the characters. We come up with a model package character. So it's like. Here's what adore looks like from a angle. Here's how to draw her. In this position or that position we do a lot of work At the top of the show to make sure that it looks the way we wanted to look in. Adora didn't change through the course of the series. It's the exact same one from the pilot. Much to the chagrin of fans who really want her to get a new outfit but the way that we drew her changed and ar animation studio the way. They drew her changed. So i do think that you can see the characters aging in the show because the way they're drawn the way they carry themselves their expressions. Everything about them you can. You can feel the time passing. I think and it's something that sort of happens between the lines. It's not something like oh. Here's the slightly. Older version of adore is model pack. It's it is in all of the little moments of acting that are board artists in our animators incorporate in another way i think you all sort of Kind of reinvented. The format turned on. Its head is you. Really cer- vert. The ideas of binary is with a lot of the interactions and themes that overplay the show Can you tell me one or two themes or topics in particular that you guys wanted to like sort of To approach that in that way it is a lot eighteenth about blurring lines between those Binary is like he said. I think for a door is really interesting. Because in season one she goes from basically taking all her orders from a woman shadow weaver to taking all her orders from a woman named light. Hope my name is light home. I have been waiting a long time for you. And so you assume. Of course one lighten. Her name is going to be the one who is like on the side of good like a paragon of integrity and then as she finds out at the end of season for life is also not good and a different way from shadow weaver. But she's got this in the this programming that is destructive after a thousand years. My programming will be fulfilled. The heart of a theory will be unleashed against the first one's enemies. What you think of as good as evil is not clear cut. It's not always what you think it is and if you were trying to make it more simple than it is. It's not going to play out the way you want it to you like you can't overlook those complexities. You have to engage with them our love that answer because it what it does. It's like a breeze so much life until like the way we define Not just evil and like what it means to be a villain but also what it means to be like a quote unquote one of the good people right like someone that's trying to maybe do the wrong things for the right reasons or do the right things for the wrong reasons or some other flip of that that dynamic definitely i think shadow weaver is one of the most personal villains in a weird way like even though she's become kind of a harmless player in the story and she's just like gardening and really leg oddly harmless after everything that she's put them in characters through she is kind of the shadow hanging over so many of our characters. I will never forgive you. You ruin people. You ruined any chance. They could ever be happy having done enough. I did what i had to do. Keep telling yourself that. And i think that it's also everyone who's watching. It has a version of that relationship it could be a teacher. It could be a parent it could be a neighbor. It is something that's like the people who have sway over us and even though we can be like. Oh i hate them. You always want to impress them at the same time. You always wanna be like look look at me. Am i worth something to you. Now do you see me. Yeah this like constant conflict of like as a person right like how how controller will your how influenced by by these things and you've talked a lot about influence. I'm curious how the actors influence the characters that they take on like. Has it ever altered. Maybe where their stories go. Or how the personalities of shifted. Yeah i think that lorraine tucson a shadow weaver is a perfect example of that like shadow even more than any of the other characters. I really felt we could not control. Always went off in directions that we didn't expect and it was so much of that was because of lorraine like she's an amazing voice actress. Incredible just to watch her she. She is the most charismatic figure in any room. She's a and it's just like she's like a like a shining star lake so to put her in the robes of shadowy behind mask she becomes this character that as soon as she's in the scene at all all the gravity kinda pulls towards her and that means that her story ended up going in a different direction than we expected. Especially when it came to the fifth season. I sort of felt like lorraine was writing the character. Because we're just trying to keep up with her. We always begin every season. It's just like we don't even know what's going to happen with shadowy. And then she just takes off and we just turn keep up while shadow. Weaver became a fan favourite by the indices and five the most iconic figure in the series is the titular character shiro slash dora. Aimee carrero a dual character. Shared what it was like to develop and grow with the rolls over the last two years. We're sort of your first steps to developing the characters of a door slash era. Well no well. Who is our creator and our show runner. She sort of took it in a different direction which was really cool. They were a little bit younger. The characters were from the original property. And one thing i've really liked about this version. Is that her friends. Were in on the fact that she was sheer us. It wasn't like something. She was keeping from them. The most interesting thing about this show in general and it continues for me to be the most interesting thing. is that when we see shows about superheroes. We so often meet them when they're already superheroes like they have very little flaws and with this version of the show. It's very much the making of a hero. So you're meeting. Dora and she is still not at all what you would call a superhero. Because she doesn't really understand anything about what's happening to her. The i feel like constant confusion that you find in like especially a young person something. A lot of people relate to. Can you talk us through a little bit of a doors journey to discover her true identity. You know when we meet her. She is in the horde and she's been totally brainwashed into thinking that she's working for good and then this thing happens to her and she realizes everything i've been told his ally but not only that i now have to make the choice like do i go back to living that lie or do i walk toward a different future. That is totally unknown. But she knows deep down is the right thing to do is really kind of twisted journey. You know much like our lives. In general afflict. The show leans very strongly on the narrative her being the chosen one but also in adverts that the kind of a sheera you know continually gaining strength from the people around her. Yeah that's definitely one of those beautiful things that no all has woven into the storytelling which i think is really nuanced. And and and not what you expect from a kids show. You don't really expect all of these existential questions. And the idea of being the chosen one. Then she really rebels against that because she's like what did i ever do to be the chosen one and why me it takes the entire series for her to learn the biggest lesson which is being a hero doesn't mean going it alone. It actually requires the entire community. It requires you the quote unquote hero to rely on those around. You and not only rely on them but really count on them and allow your love for them and and your humanity to really drive. Whatever heroic impulse you have to. Yeah i really liked the fact that you You highlighted community. And i think that she has a very complicated community. I guess the word for me would be almost like bipartisan. You know it's like a lot of lines get blurry. And she's a ton of history that we've i see here when we opened up season one all the ways it develops throughout the next season's howard door and she were different or are they different totally. It's funny because this reference might be too old now for the listeners. But i remember when beyond say was talking about her. Sasha fierce alter ego you know who she like when she performs that who she sort of turns into so yeah. I don't think they're two different people. I think they're sort of two sides of the same coin and in order for her to complete superhuman tasks she has to put her humanity kind of on pause and i think that's where a sheera comes in. Well i love the sasha fierce reference because it does make me like i imagine there is beyond say in real life beyond say the mom say the person then there sasha fierce on stage so are there. Are there any sort of different approaches. You take in the vocal booth to separating the two or is it are there approaches. You take to making sure that there is a commonality between the two. I think that it's you know there is a difference between how you sound when you're at work or when you're totally zone and when you let your guard down and so i think that when adora transforms into sheera she is just like. Where do you speak from in your body when you're completely confident and you know that you've got it under control. it's just. It's just like a deeper more grounded place. So yeah i think that might maybe might because my body language changed maybe by voice changed. Or maybe i'm just giving myself way too much credit. Who knows do you of f. favorite lines or catch phrases from Adore or sheera through the honor of grace goal is very icon. Ick the first time. I said it because it was at my audition and i was like god. This is like the one thing that people who don't watch sheera know about chiro. Is her her big like battlecry and so when people ask me to do it like at conventions and stuff. I always get like so embarrassed because it just so loud and you wanna give it to them right but then you don't wanna scream in their face four the owner of graceful four skull the skull and every time. Aj who plays catra says like hi adora or like. Hey dora dora. How's it hanging. How would you describe relationship with catcher complicated you because it has that feeling of complication like you don't even need to watch one scene. You just know it's complicated Yeah but but is how many complicated relationships do we have in our normal lives so many everybody knows what it's like to have a toxic relationship in their life that you sort of have to walk away from for awhile in order to grow on your own and then come together later so i think that. That's that's the core of their relationship is they have a shared experience. They grew up together. They know what it's like to be you know have that traumatic upbringing but the difference is that while adora chooses to go one way. Catra really takes that super personally and feels incredibly abandoned by adora and and things like. How could you ever leave me. And of course you left me like you've always been the goody two shoes you've always been teachers pet. You've always done what is right and so you know. Counter has to deal with her sort of abandonment issues and adora has to deal with her savior complex and it isn't until they figure it out and can be vulnerable with one another. They have a chance at all to salvaging their relationship. Yeah so when recording say scenes were catcher kind of imagine you separate booth. Is that correct or are the actors recording together at the same time in the same booth with this show in particular. It was really wonderful that we were able to do group recordings. It's kind of rare because obviously everybody has different shows that they're part of and their schedules are different. So it's not usually the case that we get to Record together on you know on any other show but with shira they really made an effort. And i think it makes a huge difference because we already can't see what's happening because when we record the our voices there isn't really any animation yet. There's like sometimes. There's what's called an antibiotic which is a really rough sketch and you can sort of see what the action is. But you don't really get to see their facial expressions or anything like that until after you've done the voices so having that extra support of like being able to look into. Marcus is or karen or aj and being able to play a scene with them. I think just makes the show better. I mean like make sense right like this show is so much about relationships and community and team and a lot of ways that it feels only right for you all to do this as a team totally. Yeah the final season of shearer and the princesses a power came out in may of two thousand twenty while those of us on earth sheltered in place isolated in our homes on a theory adora facing her own isolation near defeat from horde prime. Relax friendships the open and understanding community. She had bill was what would give her the strength. She needed to fully tap into her. She re powers and save them. All it's over. He's gone good. Riddance was perfect ending. One that honored the original she series but would have a new lasting impact create new community. That's the reason. I became a storyteller and the reason i went into the animation field to begin with is because i know the impact that these stories had on me when i was a kid even though it might exposure to animation was limited. It changed me in a profound way and it affected the way. I viewed the world. And i want to be that for kids now for someone now even not like kids for adults for teenagers for anyone is watching. And i think i would know that we've achieved what we set out to achieve if in like a few years five ten years fifteen years however long they're like young professionals coming up to me and saying this had an impact on me. This inspired me. And now i have my own show. I have my own story. Having having a lasting impact on people's imaginations on the creators of tomorrow that would be. I think the profoundest honor to me. So i really hope that this show stays of people even after it's over and that the inspiration just continues to go forward into the future and that's all for this week's episode next week. We're talking about the reboot of voltron. Legendary defenders show runners laura montgomery and joaquim santos as fans of the voltron series. Lauren and joaquin tells had the original nineteen eighties cartoon influence them as adult animators and how. They brought their childhood favored until the modern day was huge. Like on the playground for me with all my friends everybody could choose. A different pilot could play along. But knowing that i grew up with the stuff and knowing that like i may be rare. But i'm not the only girl in the world that likes the stuff. I wanted to try to get a little more female in the show behind. The scenes. animation is a net netflixing pineapple street studios production. I'm your host brandon jenkins. If you liked what you heard please subscribe rate. Amer view this podcast. Thanks for listening.
The 49ers: A Bunch of Journeymen
"Yeah well it Super Bowl we give you the And while you'll be in Miami Emmy for the game I have been hard at work on my snack list. Oh yeah what's on the menu mostly messing around with this buffalo chicken cheese dip essentially a deconstructed wing. I've seen you eat man. Yeah that dip has no chance but anyway today we're taking a closer look at one of the two teams that will be squaring off in Miami on Sunday. The San Francisco Forty niners. It's been an incredible season for San Francisco especially especially considering that they were four twelve last year and started out the year before that. Oh and nine. And that's not even getting into all the dysfunction during the Jim Harbaugh Arvo years today the Tim Kawakami who has been reporting on the forty niners for years is joining us to talk about how the forty niners have pulled off. This remarkable arguable turnaround. The players have helped them make it to the Super Bowl and what's unique about this particular group guys. They all treat themselves and they look at the world. They're a bunch of journeymen at very refreshing and I think it is a large part of how they've kind of coalesced together from the athletic. I'm under skelter and I'm giving you the Davidson it's Wednesday January twenty ninth and this is the lead. It felt like something was happening. There is something about the emotion for the as a matter. Because I was isn't a story rear view the athlete it stays with with you with the capital adventure card you earn unlimited double miles on every every purchase every day and you can use those miles towards travel expenses like flights hotels rental cars and more just book and pay for your travel using your venture card and redeem deem your miles toward the cost capital. One what's in your wallet. CREDIT APPROVAL REQUIRED CAPITAL ONE BANK USA. So Tim take us back to last weekend. What was it like in the forty niners locker room after the big win over the packers you know it was very celebratory? Football players. Don't do the baseball thing. They don't Spray Champagne for every playoff win more family members and you ever see in their executive kind of soaking it in one hell of accomplishment by everyone in here as cool game aim is. I've been a part of man enjoy tonight. Enjoy each other players. Were certainly enjoy themselves but this is a very open locker room anyway. It's not like Oh my God. They're quiet and they don't talk and now they're all talking. So is there a team that likes talking. Their team like sharing who they are. They're a team with a lot of personality. Feel been there before. It's hectic as can be when we get down there. I haven't made aide whole schedule off Miami on Sunday. I appreciate you all. Man's I get and you wrote about how the general manager John Lynch and head coach. Kyle Shanahan. We're we're sort of reflecting back back on this same time last year. Where exactly were they? There in Mobile Alabama was. It's worth you go FA senior bowl if you're bad team you're signing coaches and couch and did not want to be there with the staff you scout players you get to know players. They drafted a few of them from that senior bowl. But they didn't want to be are there They want to be in the super bowl so someone said at a dinner you know. Let's go from mobile to Miami in a year. It's a bigger jump than I would have expected and maybe you know it's something something that they even thought about it after four twelve season to get where they are you know. This really has been a dramatic turnaround especially since last season when they were formed twelve. Are you surprised by how quickly they've put it all together and built this powerhouse of a team. I'm surprised with this good this fast but I think anybody was really looking being at the foreign twelve because it was Jimmy Garoppolo being hurt in the third game It fell off without you. You saw that things were being put in the right places. This coach and that general manager that the restless that understood where people needed to be I saw I mean I. I predict last November that they would make the playoffs. This season did not predict they would get to the Super Bowl but enough good things enough. Sensible things were happening that you saw definitely a trend upward whether it was this season or next season. I know I know but you saw something with this team and from your perspective. What's the culture of the team? You know the locker rooms been good even when they were bad even before Shanahan and Lynch I got there it was a good group of guys large. There was some problem areas but it wasn't a bad locker room. Want Shannahan Lynch got in with their two six year deal so so you couldn't fire them after a couple of bad years. That's top down accountability. The players know who the boss's who they have to please and who might cut them if they don't do very well and nature's added better players year after year talent plus Culture Eagles. Here's what here's where they are right now. So let's talk about a few key players starting starting with Richard Sherman and you actually interviewed Richard Sherman a couple of weeks ago. What did he tell you about why he chose San Francisco? I mean this was joining His former teams main rival. He likes that. He doesn't mind that everybody in sales I go. Don't sign with that team. You know. He likes playing them twice. You need and save those words but if you know Richard you know that was part of it. I think he liked Kyle. Shanahan though a new CAL's pedigree on new the way he called the game in the command had over an offense but I knew the town they had on defense side of the ball and I knew that we just needed a few more pieces to put together for everything no workout you know in the NFL. You need things to to fall your way as well but I felt like this could be a special team in a special place. And that's why I sign. He had a meal with them. He'd liked the shared vision. They're both straight up guys. I talked to them both lot. He'll stand in front of us and he'll have a conversation in and he'll be giving a speech but it's almost like he's talking to himself. Hey Man I caught. I caught a really good great game enough so good about it. I I didn't feel good about it and there's some place that I want it back and you guys really saved my butt out there because I felt like I had let us down. And he'll say that in front of the whole team you know and I don't think you have a lot of coaches that do that that that are that honest with a team. I actually really attended a forty niners practice not long after Richard. Sherman joined the team. And I say I was pretty amazed by the way he was patrolling the field and getting guys faces and giving advice vice just the kind of energy the competitive energy that he brings to that team. Do you think that that is a a sort of been a tone center for this defense. No question you know. There's not a lot live kind of in your face guys on the defense. Bosa is to some extent and Richard and not a lot of other guys. They're nice guys. Sometimes you'd need someone. Who isn't the nicest guy in the world And to you know get into an opponent's head and to inflame the situation and to get people ready to charge forward richards one of those guys is. I mean if just this edginess that I think you do need on defense. Sometimes you need a locker room and Richard is there to supply it every single time. And what have you made his performance form in the playoffs so far. He's just so consistent. You just don't see quarterback wanting to test them all these years later he's very physical and the gets involved in tackles not a lot of those cover guys do Roger Chaffee to throw in his direction so you have essentially a third of the field that you don't have to worry about the Richard. Sherman takes You know he's not as fast as all the greatest quarterback sometimes you. Sometimes you think you're going to get beat deep. He just so very rarely it gives up anything that hurts defense in a playoff situation very big deal. Surge Sherman gets his fourth postseason. Career ends this game on the other side of the ball. Rickie moster hand off into the arms of Mostaert. He's gone touchdown. San Francisco rushed for two two hundred twenty yards and four touchdowns. I mean just an all time. Great playoff performance. What was his reaction after the packers game last weekend it was like in the region? Did you know that was one of the greatest game ever had in the NFC championship. No I did not actually truthfully for you to even say that right now is like yeah. I'm still shocked. I can't believe that's the kind of guy he is Kinda Guy Ladas player but especially where he had been bouncing around from team to team really wasn't thought it was running back until the forty niners. Just start plugging them in there. And he just still acts like journey acts like a guy who was a special teams player who isn't going to be a featured back while all he's putting up some of them. You know mega numbers in the playoffs. They all treat themselves. And they look at the world like they're a bunch of journeyman. It's very very refreshing. And they get his a large part of how they've Kinda coalesced together they all. Nobody's bigger than anybody else in the locker room. Even the guy goes two hundred and whatever yards in the NFC James Game. He's is a surfer. Right he is a surfer. First of all. You got no wetsuit on straight trunks. Iran longboard short board. You've been to mavericks yet. I'd like to walk us through the surf in and when you started how you got into that you know. I started Surfer when I was about thirteen fourteen and just been a big hit for me me going out there on the waves waves like you see in this video. Man Doesn't enjoy into the atmosphere in the water. And I I WANNA go to maverick. So Oh bad. Almost got surfing contract from Billabong. Florida waves out here in California. We're not sure what that is but I guess they get Out there and he's certainly he runs like a surfer does it. He kinda just kind of feels the crest kind of like glides towards the where the whole isn't he catches the next wave. And they're gonNA on start touchdown guys. Don't expect them to get past him and get past. It's a very it's not like a classic running back. He's not like Walter Payton Peyton Juki joking joking. He's kind of fill in the moment feeling where it is the wave hits and then he's gone. It's a very interesting kind of combination of a surfer running back and Do you think he's been enjoying his time in the spotlight here. I think he has. He understands what it's like not to be any part of this to be such an afterthought your cut the five teams you understand that you know a world where he's not a star he's lived in that world so he's GonNa enjoy a little bit again. I don't think he's seeking out crazy wjm but these guys are all kinds of join it right now. They're all kind of like this is pretty good. This is pretty good right now. The lead is sponsored by net. Sweet if you don't know your numbers you don't know your business now. 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So Jimmy Garoppolo hasn't been asked to do a lot this post-season I mean in that packers. Akers game he literally through eight passes. Does he deserve any credit at all for the forty niners playoff success. Well not that much other than maybe the threat of him. I mean you have to count that. I would thought that the Vikings and the packers would've loaded up lines that you are not running the ball. You can think you're gonNA you're not going to. We're going to force you to throw. Oh Minnesota and Green Bay might do that just to test it out. Maybe they were so wary of what Garoppolo could do with George Kill Downfield Emmanuel Sanders Downfield. They've a few others so you have to give him credit for that. You can't say that like hey. They were so worried about the passing game that they left the running game open. It was open it was really open against Green Green Bay Garoppolo. Prince Samuel still finely balanced inside the forty. So Oh I think Garoppolo you know. He's really good at the play fakes. He's really good at handling the ball. Is You know. It's sort of a hand off the ball great whoo GPA. In twenty five a million dollars. But I think the threat of him exists. The threat of Shanahan Designing Big Bang plays in the passing game probably contributed to those running lanes being so open over the last three seasons. The forty niners. Twenty one in five with Jimmy Garoppolo and four and twenty without him so so does that prove that he's actually the most essential player on the team even though they are so run. Heavy on offense. Yeah I mean listen. We no question the quarterbacks back always incredibly important quarterback alshon offense is going to be clearly. Port is the two way threat. Can you run an throw. That's were Shanahan's all about and the drop off from him to the next guy is larger than any other position I think on the forty five. I think they've proven that maybe George Hill. The next tight end tight end doesn't touch the ball. Every time quarterback touches the ball everytime defense reacts to the quarterback every single play. You need a premier quarterback who can read the defense and get the ball downfield if that's where it is that's what droplet as the stats aren't always great. But he was incredible against the New Orleans saints when they needed him. He was great against Iran's when they needed him. That threat is the most important born thing and the drop off from him to do their back. Nick mullins is larger at the most important position than any other position they have on the field. So that's value the forty niners. Here's defensive coordinator. Robert Sala is fast becoming a household name mainly because of his celebrations good coverage downfield and good pressure upfront and Robert Saleh inspired at a loss of five yards. What is Robert Sallah like? I mean we see him pumping his fist and getting all hyped hyped up on the sidelines. What's he like as a guy he's very different than CAL Shannon? which makes it work? Kyle's kind of a quick witted quick thinking talking guy kind of goes in people's faces and solids more thoughtful and he thinks about questions when you ask it to them. Unique in his position His one has mobility is unique. His arm strength is ridiculous. He's very very accurate. ECONO- goes around us as a low to everybody. He's in a maybe a little more people person than kyle calls kind of like if you can't do it he's going to tell you you can't do it and Saul is was kind of more empathy. You know more you know you see the motions more But he's been fantastic as a corner this season. You almost got fired last year. Well theoretically theoretically by fans at least And the defense has delivered in a very smart way every single game this season. Can we expect him to not be with the forty niners much longer he would have had a shot. I would have thought some team was going to give him a real shot this season. And maybe Cleveland did and didn't do not hire him. I think Team wins the superbowl. If it does and then they have another a great year next season. He's got to be the top of the line to be a head coach. Somewhere you know a lot is being made of Kyle Shanahan's last trip to the super bowl when he was the offensive coordinator for the Falcons and they of course blue that twenty eight three lead against the Patriots and he took a lot of heat over some of the place that he called in that game in your conversations with him. How does it seem like that has affected him and is it on his mind heading into the Super Bowl asked him about that recently in real unhappy to talk about it and it isn't anything he thinks is learning less? You know all you learn from this admits yes you understand. The Big League can go away. You're the old you serious really understood it when Tom Brady was the guy you're playing against. Maybe he would run one or two more times. It isn't like seven or eight of these things were ridiculous. I've gone back over many times and he was being aggressive. You like aggressive. He's always going to be aggressive. He's not a look back guy. He's GonNa be proof. You know apologizing profusely for. He's not not that guy. He's not insecure guy. He's many things they call. Shannon is insecure is not one of them and looking forward to the Super Bowl Tim him what if anything are the forty niners worried about when it comes to the chiefs Patrick Mahomes the most obvious thing he he is the closest thing I've seen the John elway Brett Farr were literally can win a game no matter what you do. If he's hot he's got great. Receivers the extends plays and if he gets hot. We've seen in the playoffs. You can get down twenty four nothing and still win by twenty. He is something that every defense. No is the number one challenge. They're going to face all season. The foreigners have not faced something like mahomes. Well Tim thanks so much for joining us and enjoy the game. All right. I'll see you later. You can follow Tim. Kawakami's coverage the San Francisco Forty niners and read about the time. He lost a bet to forty niners owner Jed York and got stuck with a huge dinner bill at the Athletic Dot Com. Here's some other stories. We're following at the lead after firing manager. Aj hinch earlier this month in the wake of a sign stealing thank scandal. The Houston Astros are now zeroing in on dusty Baker as their new skipper. The seventy year old Baker is highly respected and has spent twenty. Two seasons as manager are leading the giants cubs reds and nationals. I mean listen man. If there's a guy who can weather the storm of a cheating scandal. It's the guy who managed Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa and on a more serious note. The world is still mourning the death of Kobe Bryant Shaquille O'Neal who won three titles with Kobe in La play spoke about his old friend on Tuesday on TNT. Remarkable Beer boot job hall of fame ceremony. What I'M GONNA be able to say how I got five? You got four the fact that we're not going to be able to say if we stay together. We kind of got ten back. Meanwhile Spencer Dinwiddie of the Brooklyn Nets is among a number of NBA players. Who are changing their Jersey numbers? I to honor Kobe's eight and twenty four. According to the athletic shops Tirrenia Dinwiddie who is an native tried to put into words. What it meant to him to get respect from Kobe as a player in his book? I'm all star stuff like that. I mean like that By the popularity contest contest before. And like you know you win things like that. You know when you when you're me so for him to say that like I didn't need to be selected pigeon meat anymore like it was. I was an all star. Lake family knows the guy. It didn't what he has changed his Jersey number from eight to twenty six from wondering the athletic. I'm could beat the Davidson and I'm also see tomorrow
The Top 10 Tours you MUST see in 2020
"With so many bands. Reuniting and so many farewell tours and now ozzy with Parkinson's disease it can be tough to know where to spend your concert dollar this year. So on this week's show we will be breaking down the Rock and metal tours that are coming your way in twenty twenty and give have you a list of the best of the best so you can make an informed decision. You're listening to the Ledeen Rock and roll circus changing rock history. One podcast at a time. All right everybody welcome back to the Lucchini rock and Roll Circus where we rock out with our talk out and we encourage you to rock out with your talk out. We are live right now on facebook. Let me let me break it down real easy for you guys if you want. Want to join the conversation tonight. You WanNa talk with us goto Lou lombardi rocks dot com. We are in. That's a closed. facebook group just is for True Rock and rollers which I know you. Are Those people in terms of comments questions. Whatever will get first come first serve and lilies also monitoring the rock doc rage radio feed as well? But I'm encourage you guys to pop on over there too because we use himself after the show after it goes off of regular facebook or you some lives in there and we have a lot of fun and you can hear the real dirty jokes if you know what I mean right guys. You're listening to the Ledeen rock and roll circus. Our website is Dini rock and roll circus DOT COM. Please check back back often for tons of great content. Lots of cool stuff happening in twenty twenty all kinds of new programs associated with Lucchini rock and roll circus. We'll be coming your way so I'm really excited about that releasing a couple of new songs. I'm going to give you a preview. I previewed one about a month ago that it's GonNa probably be dropping dropping the end of this month and I've got one that's going to be coming out. Excuse me the Like February I'm GonNa give you a little sneak peek of that as well later. Waiter so Twenty twenty it's going to be a great year there's a mean going around That says January was my trial month. My New Year's resolutions goals really start in on in February. And I didn't plan on getting this kick in the ass with this flu. That's going around so holidays. LILLIES party and everything that's going on so we have a lot of stuff to talk about but before we get any further I want to introduce my co host the lovely and talented Mr Levi. Six fix what's up. What are you doing this week? So what did you do this week. well so good but you talk. I'll tell you I did a couple of things I I went to the tree of life benefit unfortunately missed about ninety percent of that benefit because I got super sick and had to go home and I apologize. Sure it was wonderful it was put it on by twisted rate. So I apologize for that Also the other thing I did on Sunday was at the smiling. went to see awake at last with openers paradigm who are local band and they're fantastic and they really did steal the show on Sunday. Okay is just paradigm. Have a spotify they might but if not they do have hit. Have they get a hold of me because I want to play. I'm playing. I am playing Pittsburgh Band as well tonight When we when we get into it here you're going to hear them recalled in the fading light? Let's let's talk about the they're gonNA be featuring because rock out with your account and we we played ball deep rock and roll as well so this is the home of that we are also featured on rock rage radio and got to give those guys a shout out because They have brought an entire new audience. Ledeen rock and roll circus and able to Get really great numbers. Really great ratings. Be involved with things like Rockin pod and stuff like that so shout out to those guys but the band we're going to be featuring tonight are magnum which is an older Bam got a new record out. It's really cool. I think you're going to really dig him. You always say the fading light is a is a Pittsburgh band. Our hometown town so Really excited to feature them Eric. Anthony turned me onto that. He posted them in the group about a week ago. And I was looking for stuff to play one ounce do something different and so so I found both through the group. I Apologize Rich McLaughlin. I think shared the Magnum video. So thank you guys for bringing those our attention and our Abandoned kind of becoming a favor of the looney rock and roll circus. I believe will be a bigger band in two thousand twenty with us is blind stone from Sweden and Indep maybe close out with a little bit of Lombardy maybe at the end if we have time okay and one more thing. There's always so much to do before we get into the whole thing. I I WANNA give a shout out to our sponsor our Wolf's Customs Chris Thunder Will Dodson has been a big supporter of the leukaemia. Rock and roll circus are pretty much everything that I do. He is passionate about Great Guitar. Driven Rock and one of the reasons is because his job is his business is to do guitar modifications. A A custom finishes and things like that so go to the wolves. Excuse me Wolf's customs dot online you can see all kind of examples there and if you message Chris he will send you some other stuff because I believe it's his daughter that does wood-burning and I'm going to have some would burn worked on one at least one Mike Guitars. I'm really excited. I'm actually thinking about buying telecaster just to send it to Chris to let him do something crazy with those kind of thinking. Manila Castro vibe. So we'll talk about that later Wolf's customs online guys we have a lot to get through tonight. There's some great tours a coming your way this year so we want to make sure that you are able to find out about all of that and check all that out but Let's go ahead and get into night to tonight's playlist platelets. I promised genie rock and roll. Circus Magni yeah it again now uh-huh AH in pain Hi How dino Camera fast I You know I just table privacy Sandra Yeah AH IN Magnum I feel like it's really something that that is magnum. Let me give you guys the The lowdown Magnum Magnum dot. Co Dot UK so they are obviously some young chaps from across the pond as they say Magnum online dot co dot UK. Check them out. Band's been around a long time but you know I was thinking about it today I was like a kind of classic band. But I'm like the radio is GONNA play even like serious. Isn't going to play them. I hope that they do not there. It's great but it needs to be heard a this is my good deed. So that's what we do here. We try try to feature band that you're not going to hear on Corporate Media Great Guitar Driven Rock so today's show is about concert tours. Well let me ask you lilly before we get into the actual list in your opinion. What makes you? What are the criteria for like? I gotta go to this. Okay gotta go so missing. I've seen glass in twenty thousand nine hundred seventy three shows. I wanted to go to all of them just because I like the band but what the ones I can't miss or maybe once I won't see again ones. I haven't seen in a long time ones. I've never seen and ah the repeat ones are like one of my favorite bands so I have a couple on that on. My List is one. I have quite a variety on my list to. I don't just have what you're going to expect. I do have what you're going to expect but I have other stuff to. Why would be disappointed if we didn't have sex? Let me throw this at you. Okay someplace sort of devil's advocate here. Why should I go to that concert? I mean I'm just GonNa sit and watch it on a video screen anyways. So why don't I just watch watch the concert. DVD Or. Because you're not going to get the same experience as you do at a live show. The energy at alive show is way better than just watching it. It on a screen in your living room the people yes you know you've seen slayer I know but I'm trying yeah. It's I know a lot. A lot of younger kids like to just stream everything on their phones and Youtube. And what have you. It's not the same the the energy and the people and everybody at a metal and rock show. You are the nicest people you'll ever meet some of the nicest people in the whole world not like knock knock country but every time I go to country show there's always a fight or somebody's pissing me off so so honestly but yeah. It's the opposite here. You'RE NOT GONNA get the same thing sitting on your couch. Speaking as a musician shows shows typically for me have been kind of impromptu networking situations I run into guys that you know maybe we know each other from facebook and they know me from facebook book and we get to meet face to face other musicians you know. Hey what are you doing. What projects you want run into Shell give me your music and we could feature on leading rock and roll circus? So that's another reason to go to a show so because you never know who you're gonNA meet. It is a cool environment. I want to ask one more question before. Yeah because I went to a show and we'll talk about later. I went to show this week. That was really good but what I've noticed aren't going deaf because I'm old but what I notice says shows don't seem as loud I think it depends on. The venue depends on this thing. I went to on Saturday night and say later was was it was awesome. But I'm sitting with you know my my friend who took me my date if you will and I was like she was like no. I didn't bring earplugs and so they started. We didn't need them. We sit and talk like that. Oh I wanted I had to go. I did rush. I did was bad ad in ran out of my seat up to the front during certain parts of the show and they're up when I got closer. It was more of that experience. I WanNa feel the music like you know. I think that depends on then. Nyan Hood is too though so so most I think most of the time you will get that just depends on what you say. So what are we got under listeners. Get into our list. We drag this long before real quick before before we start though I do want to dedicate the show to corn McLeod. Who did pass away? She's one of our Rock Ridge Dj's she passed away last week Unexpectedly and I just wanted to go ahead and dedicate the show to her so we will miss you core and believe. They're doing a dedication for her right now. On actual rock radio DOT COM so go to rock Ridge radio DOT COM. You you can download. The APP can hear Scrape Guitar Driven Rock all the time. You don't have to just tune in so anyway. What are we go so I did my list just before I heard certain news things happen to? Hey so one you might want to go to. If it's still going to happen. Is the war. No more tears to tour. He cancelled insult a lot of two thousand nineteen Due to the illness he rescheduled toward AIDS. They've been announced career celebrating. The prince of darkness. Live Pittsburgh date as of right now. Now it's June eleventh out at the newly named T. Music Park. I'm still calling it starling. Everybody calls this just so everybody knows I had official. Haven't been to the Pittsburgh area. You come through maybe maybe you know once in a while and you happen to be coming and you WANNA go see your remember it starlink right. That's what it is ties but we did hear today that he has Parkinson's so that that might be cancelled. Hopefully not on that again. June eleven June. Eleven out it start lake for for the rest of the podcast. We'll be calling it. Certainly this May. This may be the very last chance to see ozzy just saying. Hopefully it's a great show. I'm hoping he's going to do well. I hope hopefully gets better. And is this a thing with other bands or is it just ozzy Right now I only know I was looking to see because I kind of forgot to do that. I think it's just ozzy right now. It's it's like an an evening with us. Yes and it's his farewell tour. Of course he's been doing it for about two years that influence you as well if there are a bunch of bands on thing hang versus one. Here's the thing. I liked to see a lot of bands. I don't need more than four if you do more than four. I'm probably going to go later. Quite honestly good later in the in the or come earlier earlier and only here the ones you want and then leave me because I know people that when I was there were other shows. We went to where it was primarily interested in the opening. ACT SO anyway so up. Ah So we don't know yet. We're not unclear but appears this might be just an evening with ozzy at Saint. Seems Unlikely to me but what we can we can. Maybe I'm sure they'll add more. This is all I know about it right now outburst with data everybody The next one I do have on my list is Elton. John's Farewell Yellow Brick road tour. This one did already come through Pittsburgh however and it's been sold out Since it was launched in two thousand eighteen there is still a hershey. PA DATE ANY Columbus Ohio date for two thousand twenty her. She Is April twentieth. Columbus is April twenty fifth I Mr Pittsburgh date because it was sold out He's finally calling it quits in twenty twenty one. So we'll see if that actually happens. We knew how farewell tours go. I think it would be amazing to see. I can't afford it. I can't take this so if anybody sees it obviously that would be wonderful BLU ray or streaming it when it comes on prime and I believe yeah. This one is just an evening with Elton John. If you WANNA travel there are Canadian. Deeds as well and to New York City dates let's Speaking of Canadia just WanNa gonNA throw something out is a reference to last week show since the passing of Neil pertts Russia's now sales have insane two thousand percent. Oh yeah for for sure that happens every time to these records now than you know. There's a joke to and I heard this is try. I don't know office drew. But I've heard that both Elvis and Nirvana made more money after data. Yeah that's true. I've heard that's still making millions of dollars a we're still. He's is paid musician. Ever still so next on your list next with this was a cute little surprise. The ban recently teased in announcement for a US tour for twenty twenty on its website with the phrase get ready America and people are losing their minds around around the stadium. Tour is for Ramstein Steinhauer. You and say it is Their European tours wrapping up in August opening the gates for a fall tour in America. They spelled America with K. Stay tease locations. He's locations or Montreal Philadelphia. Washington DC Baltimore Saint Paul Chicago New York Texas California Mexico City. They're not coming to Pittsburgh. They released the dates today. The closest one is going to be in Philadelphia. August twenty third. I I I feel a trip to Philadelphia in my bone. Yeah that's what I have a the end of my state when you're I think I'm going to travel quite frankly. That is a band that is so like I just think they're never here right and they're never here and and I think it's a good example of somebody who might not get to see you don't know they might might take them another ten years before they ever come back to the US in the where they play in Philly I. It's their stadium other disciplines stadium tour. That is really encouraging. The band that gets has has had pretty much one song that was everybody knows are playing Cricket Stadium Tours that encourages my heart art for rock and roll. So that is excellent. So congratulations to Ramstein ramps. Ramstein Ramstein I believe that's correct. And if you're from Germany police Chime in good LOMBARDI ROCKS DOT com. Correct my pronunciation Mitofsky. My cousin is hanging out with US tonight. Hey in it So We had. We've had so far ozzy. No more tears to Elton John. Farewell Yellow Brick road tour and drums. Not have a name for. They don't rise up yet. They're just calling. Well it's called the stadium tour right okay. Of course. They just announced all the dates today so they might change. Okay we're GONNA come back in a few humiliates. This has banned from Pittsburgh called the fading light. And we've got more concert tours. Check out stiffly turning down with its way I down your door remainder sound one. It's misfortune or rivets. Take too much time lady take so now. No Josh God God Hi Yeah. CANTU don't want solid as well as eh goes and so and ah it now. That is a great band from Pittsburgh ended a little more abruptly than I realized my spotify stream is Get some latency or something going on. So I spent the beginning of that. But that's a ban from Pittsburgh and I wanNA tell you guys about them. They're called the fading eating light. There's a band called fading light but this is the fading light and you want to go to the fading dot net. Get all the information there. I would definitely go check these guys out. If you guys are listening saying I will we try to tag the bands. So hopefully it'll find out about it so they can share the podcast. But if he's listening I I want to come check out. 'cause that's pretty bad as most of the rock we play Liane. Here isn't a sort of hard rock metal ish veins and progressive stuff. And we don't do enough. I guess that might considered alternative. I grew up in an era when that was considered with the called college rock before like Nirvana broke in the eighties. That music was still a was there her but it was primarily played college station so I would always kind of consider these guys kind of like that they they have it like great college. Rock sound where they bringing in a lot of different stuff. They're not too concerned. About what exact niche they fit into they just WANNA play great music and right great song dig him. The Fading Light Fading Light Dot Net. We are talking about those concerts concerts in two thousand twenty that you do not want to miss. So what do you got next week. We hit we hit ozzy. Elton John and Ramstein. What do you got next next on? My list is something you probably wouldn't expect. But it's Bon Jovi. They just scheduled a North American tour for summer. Twenty twenty in support of their new album. Bon Jovi Twenty twenty. Oh well woman and good for him. He's at stake stones. Put a new record like that classic artists. I mean you know those most of those records sock and so hopefully this is good. We hope we hope we hope but it will kick off June tenth in Tacoma Washington. It'll wrap up with a two night. Stint in New York City tickets go on sale January twenty fourth. Here's what I like about it. Bryan Adams will serve as a supporting act for most of the door. No no no no really into Pittsburgh Date Yup. Well there's no pittsburgh currently no Pittsburgh dates Pittsburgh people are giant budget. Bon Bon Jovi fans can't see why they wouldn't add one but currently there isn't one right right now Cleveland. There's nothing really close yet. They'LL GET NEW JERSEY. They gotta play Pittsburgh and Click. Come on come on baby she. She played frigging Morgantown. But because there is a vegas one though so that could be fun too. So that's the only rock and Roll Circus trip to Vegas this Yvonne. Okay what do you got next on my list. Another one. That probably wouldn't normally make Melissa but Rod Stewart Two Time Rock and Roll Hall of Famer has announced a summer tour for twenty twenty with cheap trick kicks off July twenty first. Tickets are already on sale for this one He just celebrated his seventy fifth birthday. So tour at seventy five. Why not a ozzy's during during you know again sadly no Pittsburgh date but there is one in Hershey PA in July thirty first at the Hershey Park Stadium and those tickets are typically cheaper than Pittsburgh just saying her she is not as far. I'm really trying to avoid a Hershey highway joke. is not as far from Pittsburgh. It's not it's not a bad straight down the straight down the turnpike and you can also go the chocolate factory while you're there so yeah Y- which is what I would do. Never been there no I have. Is it awesome. It's no okay. I went when I was a little kid and was like blown away and in in the early nineties I was dating a woman from eastern like central Eastern. Pa and we always looking for things to do so one weekend weekend. We went to go John Women. She's like I've been those and we're both like no. Of course you have little kids. You WanNa go something to think about it and you could see and then you could. You could leave them in the hotel by themselves or get a babysitter and goes the nanny. Go See. Cheap cheap trick Stewart. The next the next one I'm going to talk about is one that some people don't want to talk about and sometimes I don't WanNa talk about. I didn't know it's GonNa be one of the most talked about of the air. Is The stadium tour of Ready Motley lately. Crew DEF Leppard Joan Jett poison and who is there other guy they had. They just Talk Smith. who used to be in the BITERS I? He has his own little band now. So that's going to be pretty awesome. You can't get with molly crew and poison and DEF Leppard. I would want to go to see DEF leppard right now. Just because I'm sorta automatic Motley crue. She wouldn't have to fight. This is going to be one of the biggest towards the twenty twenty i. It's definitely talked about Most of the tickets have sold out already. Unfortunately it has been to a lot of third party sellers. So you'RE GONNA have to pay out the but for tickets they're actually co headlining Motley. CRUE DEF LEPPARD so not one is not typically better than the other. I Guess Motley crue hasn't been together since two thousand fifteen. I haven't seen deaf leopard forever. So that's why I want to go see them. The Pittsburgh date which is also rumored to be sold out does have some tickets left though I checked is August sixteenth at PNC. Park and there are still some left in Hershey PA for August Eleventh. And or you can travel somewhere else and go I here in Buffalo New York left. Okay so this is. This is the big one. It's an all day then. It's going to be like the festival since there's so many bands on it I guess I it's rumored to start at four PM so yeah that's a long damn day. Okay all right. That's that's that's I. I knew that that was going to be on the list. I resist that one interesting interesting So would he got next. The next one is going to be the Green Day. Hella Mega tour. Here's one for the nineties kids Since it seems that everyone is coming out of hiding on tour for the new decade Future Green Day fall fall out boy and Weezer. They have announced several dates. This already but there are more to come. The bands all announced a tour the same day as well as releasing a new single the same day so they decided to tour. The Pittsburgh date for this is unfortunately the day before the stadium tour at the same venue so it's August fifteenth at PNC Park may not be a big deal to people of the eighties. But it's going to be a big deal. The people the nineties Different demographics so that's awesome but to expensive tickets back to back. It could be a good thing. Yeah Limited parking not a show that interests me at all right. That would be my little. Oh sister I I would. I mean I liked. I liked those bands. I would demand I'd be more interested in just seeing maybe like at a smaller venue would be would be easier. Caesar we'd be leased. Odi really interested in seeing as how point but going to PNC park. And you know the whole Har- game staging any basis like. I might do that for Elton John or Ozzie. But I wouldn't do that for the Delaware new. I wouldn't following. Yeah I don't know if I'd go to. Frankie is Green Day. I just they just don't this is the van for. Yeah I mean I I like to couple of their songs and at the time you know it was all angsty and I was all into it but then that music hasn't like stayed with me whereas weasels music has so. What are your next? The next one on my list is the Black Crowes rose. Shake your moneymaker tour. This will be the first tour since twenty thirteen. They celebrate the thirtieth anniversary of the debut. LP This will kick off in June in Austin in Texas. So let's hope the brothers can keep it together long enough to make it to the Pittsburgh show which is August burst. They say they are hoping to reconnect with some people who lost their way eh with them because of all the other stuff they were doing they do insist that that the behind the music phases over and they have made peace with each other. So I think this is going to be a really great show. I don't remember who his opening for them. I just tried to look. I don't know if it's probably not. It's at Star Lake. So yeah that is That's what is the date for that for star August. I I okay. Then I got to Philadelphia the end of the month to see Ramstein. It's GonNa. This is the year of the live. Show well I think that I think because it's the Tan Dan. You know the whole new decade so people are earning forty three shows. I want to go to this year. Wow only forty three if you have somebody better do another one here before we play the song. Oh well I mean I only have three more got. We Got Journey Neal Schon founding member Ross Valerie Valerie Co founding member and longtime member Jonathan Cain Steve Smith and our lead vocals have set in extensive North American tour for twenty twenty with guests the pretenders With on Shenanigans because the pretenders in journey when they were both like on the radio wouldn't have been caught dead touring being with each other. Well now they are. There's no sign is still really all new. Production hits from start to finish. The tour starts may twenty twenty and goes until September twelve. Tickets are already on sale for this they will go fast They are promising. All the classics July eleventh is the Pittsburgh date at Star Lake. Okay big year. Yeah Wow We're gonNA take a break. We're going to listen to world of trouble spotify. It doesn't give me any trouble. Little Travel Limestone rock and roll circus the and people got news. They pay US free. Aw Breath don't you the IT. Yeah bad the In Sir Yeah Breath This is twenty twenty. I took this is. This is twenty twenty. I'm Barbara Walters and this is twenty twenty. Okay guys is. This is twenty twenty. That was blind stone with a amazing. It's our work of Martin. Jespin Martin's a buddy of mine nine from way up there in Scandinavia so The great thing about the Internet ready you get to meet people from all of the world but Martin is spanned is blind zone is a graveyard record band band of graveyard records if you love that more like Blues based rock like this bill but maybe like Budgie or one of those kind of blues based heavy bands. Glue graveyard records. That's kind of what they specialize in motor gun. Some really kick ass bands in that in that Genre Blah you can go to facebook. Dot Com backslash blindster DOT official facebook.com backslash blindster dot official and. Check those guys out so concerts. It's we have a couple more on your list. Yeah put some honorable. Mentions on some horrible. You horrible mentions first weekend. They're not horrible mentioned. They're actually good but I didn't WanNa talk talk too much about them. So we have coming in February Queen's Reich on February fourteenth at the Roxy Theatre which beautiful theater it's brand new and literally in one week later. Jeff t she just together. It's a stupid. I was to forget who was Os. I was who I was talking to nick or whatever Yeah Greg I'm like the this get back together the following week behind get back together. We'll geoff tate. Sold out at gerbils onto twenty-one Queens not sold out yet so if you guys such a cell I need a date idea idea for February fourteenth. Go See Queen's Reich at the Roxie need some help because they're old singer like beat them all right right The other honorable mentions I wanNA mention mentioned are one lunar going to y t at the craft houses on and twenty six. We are not having the show on that Tuesday because we're going to be a white indeed graft opt out we'll do all do some live video. Yeah for sure. And that's going to be a lot of fun. The reason I am doing now on is because I've never seen warranty and he so some and then the last one. I want to mention for honorable. Mention is Wednesday thirteen sixty nine is. I saw it. Last year loved Wednesday thirteen. I might love sixty nine more again at the Craft House on to twenty five. I don't know how big that tour is. But it's it's fun. It's a lot of fun. Check out. We will well. Let's talk about that later. This is why we might be interested in seeing so you got to got got two more we go. This one is here. We go lose. Go into Iraq show so this one is a a little bit nostalgic for me but Alanis Morissette Jagged Little Pill tour it pains me to say this because I was a teenager when this came out and of course she was who I listened to this tour celebrating twenty five years of that album. It makes my. I just felt a gray hair. I already see twenty one year old girl saying Oh my God. I can't wait to see her. I love her. I'm I'm thinking grow you don't you weren't even born when that frigging album came out. So you'd be quiet but that I go turn back and I go well. I wasn't born with came out that I do so. I have to shut up hum. I'm sure if I had a daughter probably listened to it to you so I'm glad this is actually being resurrected. There is no Pittsburgh date yet but there is a Cincinnati and Cuyahoga falls. They she is touring with garbage and Liz fair so this is like girl power. Oh I tell you what I like garbage I love is fair. Guess Fairs One of my favorites so oh this is going to be an actual good show for the nineties girls who were like me none of this stuff. This girl for guy it can stay home. We WanNA come. I liked captain. Marvel everybody's men are gonNA like. It was fine. You can't sit with these. WE WANNA go. Can't see Alana's can't sit with US anyway. The last one was the guy's sexual be like the kids table thanksgiving. You can't with the last one that I'm going to talk about and I wasn't GonNa put it on here until they announced to was going to be with them today Alice. Cooper Tesla and lead afford Alice. Cooper comes every year great show every year. I love going. I'm always there go to the pre party the day before always but when they said Tesla and lead afford. We're going to be on there now. That's something to maybe announce because I love Tesla they don't talk enough in my opinion enough to lead a Ford is obviously awesome. Little girl power there. I do love her There Pittsburgh show is June twenty six. It is a Friday so towards the boys yes she does she is. She doesn't need to be. I have my car. She's like screwed man basically drink. The entire Tesla banned under her. And I hire like kindred but yeah that's a Friday show so that should be pretty fun. What was the date again? June twenty six and we are because we're in the Pittsburgh area. We're you're mentioning Pittsburgh dates specifically please check these bands websites. There's tons of dates is not just Pittsburgh okay mentioning it for our locals for ourselves and because I'm like we're completely what's coming. What's coming men? I don't know what's going on so I would know nothing about any conscious wasn't for Lily. So Ozzy Osbourne no more tears to. It's not no more tours. It's no more I think somewhere towards the no more no more tears to tour. That's what I wrote. I thought his tourists called no more because he made this thing about where well firstly say late like he wasn't going to Oregon and then he was like no. I meant like no more Taurean like I was doing in the seventy S. What do you? You're you're fucked up Elton John. Farewell Yellow Brick road tour. Ramstein which is just they. Don't need any right or they're they're just they're just calling the stadium to launch Jobe twenty twenty rod stewart with cheap trick Motley crue and a whole bunch of people wrote Motley crue and company. I Know Joan Jett was in there. And and Joan Jett poison DEF LEPPARD and poison Def Leppard the Guy Gloomy Day with moxy fructose notes. Not Moxie froze. It's Fall out boy and Weezer and Weezer Black Crowes with probably somebody journey with packed UNDERSTA. Tenders Pretender Pat Pat Pretender. Alanis Alanis Alanis Alanis. Won't you go down on us. Jagged little pill tour jagged little birth control pill probably maybe with garbage and Liz Fair. That's awesome huge Lewis Fair Fan. We I torture when when you porch drinking sooner or later the deal is fair. I don't eat Liz Fair. I think she's bad ass leader Alice. Alice Cuba now's Alice. Cooper Tesla and Lita Ford. Does I guess that means if Alice is coming. Our boys coming Glen Sobel. Oh Yeah of course that is data in some ways is my opinion something. I enjoy whole reason to go for him. Actually I was cooper show. Is We'll show and I love me some Ryan records you guys real quick and check this out in your area because I think I do do this multiple plays on maybe every city. I'm not sure but what happens is Glen Sobel. was the drummer right rows. He gets the Cooper Band together and they do a show show like a day before while here day after I am. I have updates on that. There will be no before show this year because they're going to be in Philly than before however they're going to try to get them out at at a record store. Okay signed. Watch your schedule because they if there's a break there's a day off. They will do this. Glen Sobel thing and it is. It is not to be missed if you if you're on a so so they ended up to if you're going to finish maybe the night before Philly. They're nowhere else and they do it somewhere. They'll do it in a club job and you get to see this monsters. All those guys sing and they play they play. MOTORHEAD METALLICA very super intimated. SUPERFUND superfund they put on a great show. Do Not Miss It. It's like it's like going to hear the greatest like cover band you could ever imagine. I can't I can't stress enough. How much she goes? Check it out. I went to first year. I was Kinda. This'll be okay blown away and then we had the second year again. Tangles stayed all night. Closed the place down. It was frugality cooper was there. It was a blast so anyway so little time. Let me let me tell you guys a little bit about what speaking tours. This band has been disbanded coming to the Pittsburgh area for ten years now and they are called get the lead out they are a tribute to led Zeppelin. If you feel like that sort of thing idea they are different than a lot of the other led Zeppelin acts like leads up again or Dozo. Those leads up again zone are trying to portray led Zeppelin as if they were still there and they were playing alive. Show with Jimmy page. Robert Plant John Paul Jones and John Bonham get. The lead out does not do that. Get the what get the lead out does is they make an effort to reproduce the led Zeppelin sound as you heard it recorded with multiple guitar tracks and the keyboards in the background vocals. And everything they they do that live and I have to tell you that it is insanely impressive. Absolutely absolutely blown away. I did see some of your video. Absolutely amazing they look a little bit more like aerosmith. They said it's kind of like. Oh this is aerosmith. Let's and they even made a joke about it on the stage and they launched into a little bit of a era song for minute. It was fun but Great they do an entire Kucic sat going to California eh all yet chills that were so good and if you watch the song remains the same again because led Zeppelin was four guys. They never used until Jimmy page got back together in the nineties and they never used supporting musicians or anything like that. I mean they had a live. Pseudo version live version like stairway. To Heaven France we all live stairway to heaven is kind of well known as well but with these guys do is they reproduced adduced stairway to heaven. Like from led Zeppelin. Four it's amazing and they did led Zeppelin the I mean they. They did stairway to heaven they. I did Kashmir. They did some of the more obscure Zeppelin songs it's like. You wouldn't think that they might did it like Achilles last stand ooh And stuff like that and the singer did like he took a little break in between kind of gave a little bit back on what they do and he says constantly rotate to set so the next time you see them like they did to Sousse to sold out shows at the Palace Greensburg and then the show on Friday was different than the show on Saturday talked to people like completely different. Joe Mixing songs all up because led Zeppelin such a giant Cadillac. You can't really go wrong with any led Zeppelin song like you know. I mean even their worst song is like better than most other people's Great Song just that kind kind of and so if you ever get a chance to see him there. Are there on tour. Go see and they've been coming to Pittsburgh for ten years I want to give a quick shout out to the gentleman that I met at the show. I thought for sure I would meet some musician friends of mine I thought like come on. I'm GonNa meet some guys. I know. I didn't see anybody who I did. Had this experience with Gary Person Eq and we're standing in line for boo. I want to go to the bathroom. I couldn't get into them like I'll we'll get a drink and said we're standing in line to get a drink and this guy starts chatting me up and we're talking and I says he says where you from and I said I'm from Kansas where he goes who lives in north. Strabane is right over the road. Right get a few miles from here. We laughed about that. He's a drummer. I'm a guitar player. We had we had a good talk so gary I want to give a shout. Also Gary about my drink I got up to the front. He wouldn't let me pay for my drink my drink so that was loving. That happened. That was very very cool. So thank you very much guy wanted to give a shout out Gary's also so musician plays with the showband. I did not get the name of his band So but I wanted to give him a shout-out was a great show. If you get a chance to get the lead out is coming. I would highly highly recommend you go see him. Lilley said the bottom show was good. Gary told me that he was at the bottom show but he likes. I've heard that get a lot out as the one deceive to see if you wanna see a tribute band to led Zeppelin I've been told that many times bottom probably the second best but yeah I've been told many times to get the let outweigh better. I mean I mean you know when they did something when they whip out like Achilles last stand things like that I was like that's impressive because that's like every year and and the keyword a player also plays some guitar so like whenever he wasn't playing he was he could put in that third gets on the the stair would have literally three guitars playing playing and all the hit. It was unbelievable so I got up the next morning and went on Youtube and was comparing a lot of other. Because there's a gazillion led Zeppelin tribute. Oh Yeah for sure. There's one and I do not remember the name of it. I probably wouldn't say the name because I don't want to shame people but when they zoomed in the guy was off the lead singer was obviously obviously wearing a blonde wig. It was ninety one way. It was like a bad like Halloween store. Blonde wig just like not even a good man. The Band of the other leads element that I'd be very interested seeing. I don't know if they tore if they just pay local and Net Zuccarello. I would love to see separate. Their videos fascinate. Amy and that lead guitar player the read my God. She's so insane. The live here redheads so anyways to keep him on Lucchini rock and roll circus. Dot Com is our website lily. I know that you're doing something on rock radio. What you've Oh? Oh Yeah I have a show. On Thursdays Lily six six. PM Eastern time ROCK RADIO DOT COM. Also this Friday I will be at firehouse at the AGO. Casino in Waterloo. New York to think of the town real quick and then I'm probably going to go see Joey Bella Donna formerly of anthrax play as Tribute band where he'll be singing journey songs. So I'll go live for the guy from journey. The Guy for anthrax is a journey Jovi event. It's not a trivial. But he's things journey and it's it's in everything tribute it. Does everything Super Nice Guy. So I'm excited to see him in your so you're going up to hang out with lance. I am going to last week weekend so no party. Hardy at Lily's this weekend. Now Lilly will be Lillian. Lance will be doing that thing. Lynn get it all. I don't know if I have any any big plans for the weekend. Other than my bands are my band is practicing. I am working. I mentioned earlier. I'm working with a Some guys with to God smack tribute band and we had a drummer with some terrible stomach flu. So we're not able to get together on Monday to to run it through so hopefully we're looking forward to doing that next week My original band is playing with a show at the sub Alpine on March. Twenty second with a bunch of other bands. And this time we are not going on is twenty thousand Metal Dick's As as just sort of we don't we haven't we have a name yet. So if you've got a good name for a shoot me an email Lulus Lombardi dot com. But this time we're calling ourselves by tour and the snow dogs as a sort of nod to Neil. What's his name the for you for the show so I m seeing that show so I'll be there? It'll be fun a lot of great bands. The the the sub Alpine is really. It's interesting little Turtle Creek is like this like what the Hell's Turtle Creek is like nothing there but they are building this really cool music Zeke. Venue thing where they're getting great touring acts and all kinds some there. Yeah so Sub Alpine you can find them on social media in Turtle Creek Pennsylvania you loot any rock and roll circus dot Com rock radio DOT COM and a shoutout to wolf's custom get don't go onstage plain old guitar get get Chris Thunder Thunder Wolf. Dotson the genius that is to customize your oft get wolfed guys have been rocking out with your talk out at the Lucchini rock and roll circus. We love each and everyone of you. Thank you so much for for Supporting Great Guitar. Driven Rock Magnum opened the show. We had the fading light. And then we walked out with some blind stone And we do have time for the planet. Oh you know what I told everybody I would do. What did you talk to it? I'm not GonNa do it you. You WanNa hear preview of my new song sunkissed kissed nerd. Get your asset to Lulu Lombardi rocks DOT COM. Get in the inner circle group and we're going to go to an after party we're GONNA rock Out here a little deeper talk more about music. 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If you have an iPhone, please do join us every morning on our clubhouse event and you can just search for us on the search bar and you'll find the the invite and yeah, so it's worth it to be a bit of a pre-show to the podcast which is great cuz we get to hear a lot. We have a lot of really great in-depth coaching type conversations with top agents around the country. So if you are Clubhouse curious as most people seem to be nowadays, it's in the news all over the place as the fastest growing social app ever faster fast growing faster than even Facebook. It's invite-only at this point. And you know, if I could I would encourage all of you to go to clubhouse on your iPhone's download the app and then at least register your name's it's going to be one of those things when it goes public that's going to shock everyone. It's really really cool app, and you know, Julie and I wage Very very rarely Advocate pretty social networking apps. So for us to say we like it is because we really do think it's great. It's excellent and disseminating information at a very high level and you can communicate directly with the young people. You don't have to go through a lot of you know, virtual filters like you do through all the other social apps at least at this point until they screw it up and try to make it into something that it probably will end up being which is a big media messages, but for now, it's a really cool app. So it's called club house and moving forward one of the things that we are seeing and experiencing out through you guys is the huge amount of wins and consternation from being a buyer's agent. We talked about this as a recurring theme in everything we do in our book and are you know here call Harris rules and our podcast coaching clients a lot of people discovered often I because they want to learn how to be powerful listing agent. So if you're finally tired of essentially being the punching bag of the real estate market AKA just working with Buyers. It's time for you to seriously consider being a listing a job. A listing agent there's it gives you leverage being listing agent allows you to basically have consistent cash flow being a listing agent is what the real estate treasure map is all about the output of the real estate treasure map, which we ought to give to you is just determining what your real estate magic number is and your real estate. Magic number is simply the map number of listings you need at all times do meet or exceed your financial, you know, your dreams your goals your obligations back. If you want a free copy of the real estate treasure map. Simply text 20-21 285-685-1045 text 2021 to 85685 10:45. And when you do we're going to toss back a link click the link and you can download the real estate treasure map as well as Think and Grow Rich for Real Estate a lot of other great books. So Julie. Yeah, you titled this something that I'm not going to use but I get your point Julie's notes for the love of God be the listing agent. So we're going to hit. Those are my thoughts lately at least you used capital G. Yes, and we're not and we're going to obviously rename it. But yes, I mean isn't that really the recurring theme song? You've you're famous for saying basically working with Buyers is physical labor and working with sellers is really mental and a skills-based or mental labor. And that's definitely true. But now the direction of the markets going buyer's agents are going to happen to have the same sales skills and presentation skills as a listing age. Yes, and I I think that there's a level of shock and awe and surprise and outrage from buyer's agents. Like how how do I get this hard this fast, right? I see it from I mean, I hear it on coaching calls people text me we get emails. I watch what happens on some of the realtor, you know places that they post and I saw a funny picture that reminded me too long. Roll down on that switch was they were comparing Barbies right the listing agent Barbie versus the buyer's agent Barbie and listing agent Barbies like got the glamour shot beautiful dress sunglasses in her hair off and the buyer's agent like had a mask dangling from her face or hair look like the cat chewed on it and she had like torn jeans and stuff. And you know, what's the better lifestyle right now? I think people are in the Fireside no birth. The listing agent always wins. Well, one of the things again on our clubhouse of that makes you guys attend that one of the things that we are really deep diving into and you've been doing a great job keeping on the Forefront is all the suck the head winds that's sort of at this very present at this moment is destroying essentially a lot of Agents businesses that were only based on selling houses to buyers. Yes. We're seeing and Gillian. I've been warning you guys about on this podcast for at least two years, maybe three years that we saw the low-hanging fruit as far as what the tech companies were going to try to eliminate would be the buyer agent commissions and we talked about this exhaustively on this podcast, but obviously all of our all of our prognostications are playing out Julie and I have been telling you guys Focus all your best energies on becoming listing agents get off the hamster wheel buying buyer leads off being so opportunistic or more specifically stopping the bug that's attracted to the you know, the zapper light and then start focusing on developing skills. So you can actually have a real business and you won't have to basic wage. Succumb to all the downward pressures on buyer's agents commissions and then we noticed late last year, but definitely this year the everybody is going after the buyer agent commissions. Not just the I buyers but now Savvy sellers off. Yes, there is such an abundance of evidence and you guys that are out there in the field know this cuz you're experiencing it and I I just wanted to go through all the different directions that are eroding your buyer side, This is not just the I buy I mean the I buyer is just kind of the tip of the iceberg. So let's do that. And then I also want to at the end. I don't know if you scanned out of the bottom, but I also wanted to promise them even though the theme is about be the listing agent listing agent always wins. We also are going to do a series of podcasts about all the different strategies for you to use on on the buyer side so that you win ideally none of them being losing your commission off, right? And again, so the losing of your commission option, that's something that we're seeing a lot of pain in the and some of these hot seller markets and if you're in a market place right now, that's not being affected by this. You can pretty much assume back. Of the speed of information flowing on the internet you're soon going to have sellers that are going to start maybe asking as if you're a buyer's agent you're going to if you want your offer accepted you may go over off or you may have an all-cash buyer. You may waive your inspection. You may waive your appraisal you may you know, all these things the every single possible Advantage you can give your buyer in a purchase offer is going to be offered but then that seller might come back to you and say reduce your buyer's agent commission. That's pretty much what's left and that's what's left. And that's what we're seeing in these hot sellers markets. And obviously we're also seeing these I buyers that are essentially starting out by offering commission Palm Court commissions, you know around a point and half in many markets. This is the new reality when you're basically on the buyer agent low-skill side of the business, you need to migrate all your best energies to becoming a listing agents should leave us now or believe us in a year if this Market continues to tighten in favor of sellers when the buyer agent commissions become a dollar amount $1,000 twenty five hundred dollars five hundred dollars. What are you going to do then if they do? A lot of houses for the buyers to choose from and you have a buyer that wants to buy the house in there is a $1 Co-op. We're going to do not write the contract. I mean you guys getting the point here become the listing agent. It's not getting any easier. Okay. So here's a list of things that are actually going on and this is not just a fluke scenario. This is going on consistently. It doesn't really matter what Market you're in fact, the only spin-off I would say is probably Manhattan and there are a few other Pockets, but I'd say ninety percent of the country is reporting this type of thing. So, all right developments on the buyer side white number one, we just talked about by birth. And while we didn't look at it this way this this is just I think an act of desperation number one buyer's agents volunteering to chip in some or all of their commission just to win a competitive scenario that's happening Point. Number two listing agents reducing Fireside Commissions in the MLS employer agents outraged over that one, but you know, it happens. It's it's happened. Yep. Certain markets has been more negotiable than others. But now it's it's kind of taking root in markets that had been pretty consistent. Well without talking about commission rates, obviously one that's always happened. There was not uncommon for Wednesday and I are selling real estate for there to be a you know, the commission where the bulk of it was going to the listing agent. And what what do you do on the buyer agent side, you can be outraged all you want but the end of the day you have no control at your pay is going to be if you're on the buyer side of the transaction and if you want to know where the punch line of all this is going to be this is just a reaction to the market as it is Angela and I were talking about this in the clubhouse this morning off the we were driving back from Las Vegas to Laguna Beach. We were doing spooky speaking events out west and this was back in like 2008 probably and we were driving through Victorville, California and in Victorville, California, we actually saw a billboard that was on that major road I-10 or whatever the heck it is going. Yeah. Yeah. That's right going from Vegas to California as we saw a big billboard from a builder that says if you buy one of my houses, I'll give birth. There for free. So it's basically a buy-one-get-one-free that was not a joke. Right? And there's and and when the market shifts back towards buyers, you're also going to see commissions increase not decrease. So this is proof that there is no such thing as a perfect condition. It is really driven by market forces. So what's going on right now is probably on the extreme edge of what happens in an incredibly hot seller's market. I should hope so, okay, but I you know, I I think this is going to continue for quite some time. So ignoring this would be you know, career suicide I think. All right. So we speaking of what you just said Point number three Builders are reducing by your side commission sometimes to 0% Yes. That's a sliding scale. Okay check before you show know what you're signing up for Point number for listing agents slash seller's asking the buyer's agent to ship in or eliminate there by your side commission during the negotiations so that they will accept that offer. That's absolutely happening Point number five buyers having to be asked to pay out-of-pocket for biome. Commissions by our agents uncomfortable about that one buyers being asked to pay you out of pocket, you know your commission. Let's have a right there for a second. So only in California, I'm sorry, California, United States and Canada and I think maybe New Zealand. I'm not really sure. Is there an automatic entitlement to a buyer's agent commission meaning that only in those few areas on planet Earth. I don't know about Mars or Venus birth might do things completely different. Is that where you have a commission that's being paid for the buyer's agent and the seller's agent by the seller. That's an abnormal thing. That's not how it works and the rest of the world. So what we again, this is going to be this is already baked in but there's going to be come a time in your future that if you do not know how to present to a buyer why you are worth the commission that down you are asking the buyer to pay you might not actually get the hell you might actually get the sale. The buyer is not going to choose to work for you with you. The buyer's going to go directly to the seller or the listing agent or sorry. Yep. That's the way it works in the rest of the world. Basically, there's Brokers they have listings if that broker just have any listings you want mister buyer. You move on to the next one. And in this type of Market that is definitely where the trend seems to be in a lot of the hottest markets Miami now for single-family homes is definitely on fire on our clubhouse event this morning. People are just a lot of people from Miami we're talking about how crazy the market is down there and a lot of Julius points actually came from where we're seeing the markets changed the quickest then you know, so this is the canary in the coal mine. These points are telling you what's happening in these hot markets that might be happening in your Market sometime soon. Yes. So, let's see Point number 6 tires are asking to finance the buyer side commission into their loan and I think that this varies from area to area what's allowable and it also greatly varies from client to client because if you're you know, 3% down FHA buying probably not going to get anything anyway, but the lenders probably not going to allow you to do that. Actually they do and that's now so I don't I remember this very clearly is this back when you and I sold real estate. Do you remember when the a VR thing became really dead? Okay, so is then the fannie-freddie changed the regulations that did allow the buyer's agent commission finances of the contract. But Julie that was back in the probably The Late Late nineties or the early early, you know dub was so in that era. That was something I remember hearing about it reading about it and thinking that this must be the the start of a possible Trend where the sellers are going to be obligated to pay the buyer's agents commissions off or it never actually happened and I don't know truthfully whether it's still financeable as far as anything that I have to investigate but it might be and if it is that's the solution that is the killer solution, but then you're going to have to basically go and wage able to present professionally to that buyer why you are giving them an extra whatever your percent is be careful percents lady, you know, whatever your percent is and you're going to have to be able to rationalize to that, you know essentially cell to that fire while you're worth the extra amount of money and if there's not a lot for sale and the buyer just says, well I could have seen the houses that you're going to show me. Anyway, when I just go directly to the listing agent, you're going to be a disadvantage gets back to the original point of Tears. Presentation probably tomorrow's which is be the listing agent. You have all this drama. That's right. Shut all of that. All right. So, let's see Point number seven what you just said Byers getting sick of losing jobs and going directly to the listing agent. There's a lot of that going on listing agents are loving that and I do see more dual agency out there than I've ever seen before and the Buyer Agents look you guys aren't wrong saying that dual agency is not necessarily going to give the buyer the same representation of say for example, been being represented by somebody was truly negotiating for them. It just makes sense that that's going to you know, produce a better outcome for the buyer. But an American life is it doesn't really matter cuz the sellers control everything but who really controls everything or the listing agents? So again Guys these in many markets these points that were making are just going to intensify if you're in New Jersey and you know Murphy, North Carolina where Julie and I have a home which is a wonderful gorgeous. Absolutely. Probably one of the most beautiful places on planet Earth, you might not experience these things today, but in six months wage, Pretty much can be guaranteed. You will be in those of you guys are in other parts of the market or other parts of the country where you're seeing like for example, Charleston, South Carolina, you know, you're seeing all these towns in Texas. I've been telling you guys that July found a great article that was about Joshua Tree, you know, which is a placing California up in the high mountains, but it's pretty much incredibly hot all the time. It's the desert except for these amazing cactuses called Josh Ruiz that area has never been developed residentially and guess what's happening now, it's getting developed residentially people are leaving the high-density high cost more urban and Suburban areas and they're moving away from the the centers of the cities around the country around the world. And obviously there's a lot of Technology that's enabling that to happen and all kinds of things we talked about in other podcasts, but the moral of the story is is they're going to bring with them expectations of how real estate supposed to be done based on their experiences in this very competitive densely populated urban areas. So you have somebody who has a single family house and they basically we're selling off. A Miami tight Market of a you know a single family home and they're moving to say Murphy North Carolina. They are going to you know, and their experience was this is how real estate is now done and Murphy's not doing it that way yet. Well, you can pretty much guaranteed that those people are going to bring their experience transacting in more competitive markets to your market and the next thing you know, that's means that your markets going to ship or if you're smart and you're in a Murphy North Carolina area where any of these other wonderful areas around the country you're going to be building your business and anticipation of the change so you're not caught by surprise. Yes, that's right. And so, you know our Texas agents, I would say how I'm sorry, like Nashville, Tennessee and Florida, they would already attest to that because of the influence of people moving out of California. They're typically counsel specifically and and so often especially the Texas agents are like well, I mean California just our California buyers must be really used to going way over list and you know, they're historically that's true. But that's an excellent point Julie because if you're in, New Jersey, We over talk about Austin because we have so many great coaching clients there. But if you are in Austin, Texas and you're over your over asking, you know mental emotional threshold is 25 Grand and because you're working with them go by are you say well, look we go 25 Grand over that's going to show the seller we're serious. But if you're competing against a California offer and they're willing to go substantially more you're going to lose that house every single time. They're built it's baked in that they're more comfortable with that. Julie told a great story on clubhouse this morning about one of her tell him about the million over. Well, yes, so collection of those stories coming in house had been on the market for a while. This is in Boston and wasn't the best curb appeal in the world had had some showings but it had been on the market while this is not a story about a fresh new hot listing and you know few showings happened a couple of weeks ago and found an offer of more than a million dollars over. This was a four point five million dollar listing and it sold for 5.6. How does that happen? Well a couple of things kind of converged dead. Excuse me. It was the last listing available in a very hot neighborhood. The buyers had lost out and been outbid several times in that neighborhood. And finally they had it and they said you know what? I mean? Yes there from California. They said, you know, I'm going to write the seller and offer that there's no way they can refuse and that was a million over so that's pretty amazing. And that's not the only story like that. We've seen some things and this is this is right in your wheelhouse of becoming a powerful listing agent. You guys all should be really heavily going after expired from two or three years ago. It's still our own personal story when Julie and I were looking for a place Murphy and this is just a little summer home for us. And so we were we had been looking on and off, you know physically there and you know, obviously online and we noticed that housing prices of the homes that were similar to what we're looking for were escalating quickly and we are talking to the listing agents and indeed the list of the buyers were not just from the usual ancillary markets of like Ashville or say for example of Atlanta, Georgia. They were starting to tell stories about people coming down from the more expensive areas on the east coast and things like that. So indeed what was happening in even this very isolated area of the world in that Central Appalachia area around Murphy. They were seeing the influx of these, you know, essentially all cash buyers that were they had basically conditioned themselves to pay full asking if not over so when we stumbled across this property that we ended up buying and I remember we told the listing agent very very sweet professional gas. Fantastic. You should give her a plug o Bonnie Dupree in Murphy, North Carolina. There you go. So and she was a professional very helpful great real estate agent, but we told her she said, well this you know, what, do you guys want offer in July and I said well for asking price now could we have gotten it a little bit cheaper maybe but we happen to know them probably at least three or four buyers out there. They're also looking for the same thing we were looking for and the thing that we had looked at the day before had already gotten pending. I mean, we literally were watching daily inventory disappear and prices go up. Yep. And this is like, you know, not Metro or Urban in any way this out there right in this is like you heard any work for it. This is two hours as the as the crow flies from the nearest like Thursday. We're going back up there this summer and I was saying in Julie's like should we be buying stuff before we get there and shipping it from Amazon. I said, oh Julia will just go to the local Costco. Local Costco is ninety minutes away, you know home right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like sixty five miles or something. I mean still you could that tells you how basically isolated it but you can live there now and just something else just cuz we got around the bend here, but the like starlink Elon Musk satellite thing. I've been hearing more and more people here in Puerto Rico where we live talking about the fact that they're getting on the waitlist and it's supposed to be coming to I tell you this end of this year great. And so the the upload download speed of the Star Lake satellites is incredible. So once you're able to get these starlink satellites everywhere, you're going to see a sea change and how humans live and where they live off. What's the most isolated places like what we're pointing out to you guys today? They are going to become alternatives to living in where you've been conditioned to think you have to live for the sake of employment cuz your employers are going to Bow you flexibility of where you're going to live. Maybe you're smart and you're selling real estate in multiple markets in multiple States right now has all kinds of incredible opportunities that are right at your fingertips. Just open your mind and I have to say this is part of the Renaissance Theory the post covid-19 ahsan stereo that Joey and I work on our Sunday special podcast. So mrs. Harris, I have to round the banks that get to a coaching call shall we save a few of these points for tomorrow? 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BiCameral Ventures and iTrust: VCs, 401ks, and IRAs
"Konichi-wa cripple embracing and this is pizza mine. I hope you guys are having a blessed wonderful amazing day. We got to financial institutions that are at the core of the blockchain ecosystem here to talk to you today. Thank God I'm broke. I need some help. You're not pro. I've seen that make you got more Zeros than I got fricking. You must've had your because you're seeing way more than was actually there so we got two companies. The first is one that we're gonNA talk to is called bicameral ventures and they'll talk a little bit about the name bicameral. I've never heard the word before when I hereby camera I think of a two humpback Campbell right. It's not it's not it's actually the two chambers hours of thought processes that they have and kind of elucidate what that means but basically it's the idea that they want to support. The broader blockchain ecosystem was a win. They're making investments right. They want us have an investment support. The broader you know a rising tide lifts all ships this kind of thing but they also need their project to have a real business model and it's the real business model thing that is kind of truly eluded the space yeah that's exactly right. It's really eluded the space and so they're saying hey you have to have real revenue attached your products which is really the amazing good luck good luck okay so the next guy's got on here are from a little company called. I trust capital and I say little a little facetiously because they're not so little what they are is a i._R._A.. And 4. Consulting firm that will allow you to put your 4. An I._R._A. Into Crypto and I think it would be a hilarious coincidence of this turns out to be a scam and it's called. I trust however I think that it's going to be a revolutionary the thing and I'm GONNA put a ton of money into it until friends and family even without a referral code so if you guys want to get exposure to the class of digital assets and you have an I._R._A.. Or four one kid you WANNA roll into it I would suggest check it out I trust and without further ado part of our hybrid series here. We got Matthew Aaron conducting interview in we'll catch you guys after the show has some ranks C. E. O. OF BICAMERAL VENTURES WELCOME TO CRYPTO WANNA one sir. Thanks so much good afternoon very glad to be here awesome and I tell us what does bicameral ventures do. Maybe a little bit of a history of your company absolutely so again very happy to be here. Bicameral the ventures was born out of the realization of what would it take to actually bill blockchain from. Let's call it very niche in utility and use case into something. The mainstream mainstream could actually hope to adopt someday. How would we get this technology from you know hype potential but low maturity into a state where you can actually run something as aggressive as a bank or manufacturing facility salty on a chain natively that that was kind of the Vision Back there in twenty sixteen in twenty seventeen? We announced our very own permission list blockchain. It's called an that his belt A. O. N.. Today it's the largest Canadian protocol that has its own maintenance. We launched it in two thousand eighteen and I think what we very quickly realized is that even though a lot of what the effort was focused around was was very technical meaning. How do you build this to become a reality? The go to market Ken just be around if you build it they will come to go to market needs to be much more progressive than proactive. Maybe in terms of how how do I beat de Organic growth rate associated with my platform. How is it did? I actually go out there to the world and tell people hey this is a piece of two Kanji. You should care for and this is why we think you should adopt it and that was pretty much the the inception for what bicameral vendors so you know even taking just one second talking about the name itself I know we just chatted about what bicameral actually means in very very simplistic terms by colonel is any demanded as governed. By two chambers of thought and here's how we kind of look at the world and it's not enough dead whatever it is you do whatever it is. You're venture aims to to actually accomplish. It's not enough that you're blockchain based. It's it's not enough that you're GonNa do some truly innovative you know use of cocaine or or maybe it's deliberate self you also have to have your own merit based on the business based on the true value proposition. Did you think thank you posted the world and to chamber of thoughts are very simple. You have to be a business that stands on your own two independent Legs Bay same time you have to mean something for the broader ecosystem you need to matter for for the blockchain world and we think that by taking that prison or that dill prism of any ventured that we engage with invest in we think that this is how we help the maturity of the industry as a whole so that's kind of how we got to the name and that's how we got to where we are today. That seems like a pipe dream for a lot of these blockchain's what we're seeing is we're does not seeing the throughput. We're not seeing that one. You'd even need to be on a blockchain and to that you even have the speed or the technology or if he's even able to be scalable to a point where it can do something that is so I guess throughput heavy as banking. Can you please explain what your vision is for the blockchain in the future in second. Maybe how that could be shaped by bicameral in your vision and for development profound questions. Yes <hes> happens to be kind of my favorite topics so happy to speak to it. You said Hey we understand how incredibly challenging it is right. We have some of the brightest the people in the world China Sulfur these problems of how do you not compromise decentralisation by disdain time. How do you order of magnitude or maybe a couple of orders of magnitude improve the throughput? Even even you know I would say the T._p._S. is important but also the the encryption quantum is is a big concern like there is so many different factors that need to align for disag- dodgy to actually be able to do things like my right vision right. How do you actually Iran mainstream large scale business on top of a chain so I would say did it's never one thing? I don't think that anyone endure garage right. Now is going to bring one solution. Chen did is going to tip the entire industry think it's going to be a much more collaborative effort by many different smart people that are trying to solve for this same goal. I think that in the meantime meaning with the kind of through goods into kind of solutions that are already viable today right there is already a public network something that we could actually look engage in a tangible manner did operate today in in terms of of how do you address use cases that are very throughput intensive missive today. I think that it's a matter of really understanding what it is. We're trying to sell for in in here's what I mean. I have a lot of experience working with very large companies in trying to actually qualify in quantify. What is the Value Day? Get Out of the blockchain and I will say grossly there are three kind of steps that we should think about when we are thinking about you know this <hes> botching in enterprise domain one aides around developed nation of the data itself meaning meaning. Can I create immutable data points that because they could prove their immutable. I don't need to have a high degree of trust right. We could actually facilitate dot trust Louis feature of the blockchain in context of enterprise to there there is D- intercompany intercompany communication mini gift were all sharing ledger. That's distributed. Can we actually look at that and say that is the way we do. We think is much more efficient at communicating because it's able to the disintermediated how we do current stage processes ended three and I think this one is probably the furthest out in the automation out of being able to rely on autonomous agents right smart contracts. The Dow types organizations and I think there is gigantic value out of it. I just think that's the furthest out. If I go all the way back to the very first value I would say that the value of being able to prove <unk> something is or isn't the way we say it is that is probably sixty percent of the value that is immediately and lockable today for enterprises to list technical control. You have over infrastructure that houses data damore restless dead days by third parties meeting delisted need to rely on you and Damore. They're willing to accept it as an actual validated truth so we don't need crazy throughput rights to be able to to create whole merckel trees that disapproved out on very large data sets by harnessing what blockchain's are very good at doing which is incredibly efficient state machines so it's one example bowl of how we could materialize decision today without having to hope right literally hope for some technology breakthrough tomorrow we could literally build an implement does today in we do know the second one thing you said is I think around the relevancy of a camera in this space for Caroli- THINK DIV value is pretty unique in the sense that we actually encourage companies to have as broad applicability we have a value proposition as possible. We do not want to lock ventures into one specific ecosystem and cut off old arrest the reason we do it that way is because we understand it for blockchain to really kind materialized a potential it has to be not zero sum game. It can be extreme winds and immerses lose. We actually think we're GONNA see a lot of specialization. In terms of what different protocols are good for solving elving for we aim to be that layer that enables you to connect all these different stacks. Give us a quick one on one on an and why it was developed so we created down. It was very very fragmented. Thanks guys out there in terms of different architectures what they're good for. What could you use them for? When we created this protocol it was around? How could you solve detectable problem of interoperability around different blockchain's in we thought did the very simple way to do it to sulphur? It is by allowing you to essentially swap the underpinnings of your token in a way that your crypto economics could live on multiple platforms simultaneously so essentially means a single token supply deployed across multiple block chains that was kind of the very first solution. Did we created when an so just at the end of two thousand eighteen we actually used is one of these bridges which is how we call the connection peace between different chains to move around one hundred million dollars worth of steak being earlier see twenty from serum to D- On minute in true on coin. I mean I have a question about the trust that you talked about and if we could briefly just go into it. There's a sentence on the site that I really am curious about it. Says blockchain at its core is a vehicle to reduce the cost of acquiring expensive trust. What does that mean so expensive trust? You could think about it essentially in two layers during mechanical trust there is the trust that is associated on the pier transaction cost and by the way that thinking is expensive because we need to be able to prove when we move money wire money to each other the dose transaction actually took place in reconsiliation throughout the entire value chain actually happens dairies a high level trust however the way that you and I if we're companies the way we do business together things by investing into relationships investing into frameworks legal structural cultural in duct kind. kind of enables the entire fabric botching does the part of it that gets me really excited. Is it kind of shows us. There is a new method to think about trust if we could essentially have this transparency layer that's immutable. It is deployed between all actors that are interacting with each other and we could now have this super efficient rail debt proves. Someone is a bad actor in a way that never enables a bad actor to claim they're or not that really changes how we think of trust so we don't need to put so much capital against it right. Maybe we have cheaper rails of interaction me. We don't need is robust of legal framework. Maybe B. E.. Even how we think of interaction itself socially changes but the end result of it is the same the end result of it deduction enables this trust ledger that enables us a new type of interaction a much more streamlined way of interaction and those are D- I would say the key kind of you know K._p._I.'s. Did we look for a new businesses that we invest in if we could see this type of behavior modification made by I any venture that's where we get excited and we want to get involved. If people are curious about where to find more information working they go so our website is one hundred percent of the place to start by camel ventures dot com my partner ox McDougal. He he is a prolific writer. He wrote a lot of these pieces through major publications so there is a bunch of public information out there some Kasim Frank C._e._o.. Of Bicameral Ventures and Co founder of a on thinking we're coming on Star Lake scattered co-founders. I Trust Capitol Loop Two one Jon Jensen thank you. Thanks absolutely absolutely everybody if you are saving four one K. I._R._A.'s or anything else you need to listen to this episode and how I trust capital is working with your retirement savings or your long-term savings with crypto. What does actress capital do so what we've done is created a fintech platform and simplified? This whole process of rollovers sending up accounts a weed portent with the thirty year I._R._A.. Custodian New Mexico Nicholson mistrust but we wanted to make very simple is the masses need simplicity. You know it can't be some complex and convoluted challenging technically difficult process so all the difficult part of it the software the moving of Cryptos from changes to wallets all done by our software on the back end clients all they need to do is set up accounts through our website move the funds which we assistant doing that and once they're on the platform. It's no different than buying and selling. Let's say on a coin base sure behind the scenes. There's a lot happening funds or moving from bank accounts to exchanges and crypto assets or moving from changes to wallets but from the client's perspective they're just clicking buy and sell and they could see everything in a very transparent way you know their assets values etc but it just makes for a very simple interface also that anybody can do it so you are taking your four one k. your I._R._A.. Moving it over to I trust either paying taxes up front or in a deferred way when you're fifty nine and a half years old or after in creating yourself a long huddle situation of crypto currency depending on what you're GONNA be buying selling is that correct almost so the option to hold <hes> certainly there and that's what most also the the companies that are out there that are offering the service if they're Turkey ten to fifteen percent on a transaction. That's really your only option because there's no way to actually trade of you have to pay those kinds of fees so we've designed as a platform that that trades at a one percent by one percent sell so you can buy sell trade the differences in the core value to customers as you can. You can play these faults markets and as long as the assets and the investments are maintained in this I._R._A.. There's no need. Need to track. There's no capital gains. There's no short term capital gains which is a real on interesting problem for Crypto and traders in general that if you hold outside of an I._R._A.. You hold a position for less than one year. That's short term capital gains in its tax note different than your ordinary income <hes> so that changes the game if he do all those same traits inside of an i._R._A.. None of that matters because because as long as you don't pull any money out of the account there's no taxable event so it really it's long-term savings but would you do have the ability to transact buy and sell and a play the markets which can be very lucrative the major difference between say along Hodler with <hes> Some bitcoin ledger that he's GonNa touch to fifty nine and I trust is the trade aspect. Is that correct. That's the primary one yes so for someone who just bind in holding and they're going to leave on a on a Ledger Dano for the next twenty thirty years that's fine you can do that certainly when you do sell then they'll be capital gains. The real advantage of this this program one is it allows people who already have existed retirement accounts to utilize those accounts for these investments but the other is for somebody who wants to be a little more active in buys and sells and doesn't mean your day trader but someone who does you know would wanNA trade a few few times a year <hes> as we see some of these dramatic spikes and dips it gives him that ability you. What about the security he said this is a custodial service where you're not holding the funds but your funds are stored with the ledger volt institutional system created by our good friends at Ledger? How is being stored? How secure is that good question? Yeah Ledger has created ledger vol their institutional grade. It was designed for hedge funds and a large institutions to store huge amounts leave ported with us us and what's great is we can offer that quality of product to you know the average person because of the the amount of clients will be bringing onto the platform but it's very intense security of multilevel authorization governance. There's immense on security attached to this to protect that when you're crypto acids or with them any cash funds are going to be held in a bank and F._d._i._C. insured like they would any other bank so the security level is at its highest certainly at a higher level than even I would trust just my assets and institutional religion volt over mm-hmm holding them in my own leisure you know in a home safe or you know safety deposit box. I think a lot of people would be more comfortable with that as well having an institution hold it as opposed to them taking all the risk. The motto of the Space Is Not your keys not your coin. Where are your keys in with this question? I also want to ask about the long-term risks and the volatility. How do you guys recommend people to deal with that? Well let me there's a couple of questions there so let's address not your keys not your points. You know that's some people do say that but there's there's a lot of people that are out there that would like to be involved in this space but they're very intimidated by the whole process of your own keys and setting of wallets also from an I._R._A.. Compliance there's many legal opinions out there. I can even send you something that you can share. Maybe a link that if you own the key you've now taken possession and you're breaking I._R._A.. Rules therefore that's distribution that can cause all sorts of taxes and penalties on the future should the I._R._S. combined with any rulings so the keys are held a series of places with pleasureful with I trust and with the Custodian everything is double or triple verified in in terms of transactions so there's there's a level of security there I think more people than not will be more comfortable with that system than with them trying to settle this themselves and taking the legal risk and the the security risk of having it all on them and again about the volatility of the markets markets traditional markets are so much more predictable. There's a lot of history to go by. We can understand relatively safely unless you know the U._S.. Economy goes tits up. We're GONNA have something at the end of the Rainbow with digital assets. It's not for sure because only about ten eight years old how do people manage that risk so one. We're not financial advisor so we're not telling people <hes> as individuals how much they should do or how long they should hold it or what to buy when to sell. We just create a platform on certainly we can all agree that these markets are. volatile there new there's a lot more risk in cryptocurrency than traditional markets generally however you look at the returns you know you're the reward has also been greater <hes> over the last decade than just about any other financial market so the nice using this as it's also directed at once you're on our platform you're buying you're selling because of our low transaction fees you know you feel like the mortgage a little too frothy it's it's it's bubbling on your you want to get out you could sell it right back into u._s. dollar position in if at any point anybody feels that this is no longer an investment they wanna be in they can simply liquidate the investments into dollars and transferred to another i._r._a. custodian take a distribution i'll you're not locked into this <hes> at alaska to know yeah you have you have total control so at five years you know either the points moon or they don't and and it's time to move on for that for an individual just like you would if you're funds red fidelity or vanguard or any other major institution you absolutely have the right to liquidate transfer and when he transferred transfer there's no taxable events as well and for these trades in these transfers you guys aren't taking ten to fifteen percent you guys are just taking one percent of these transaction fees is that correct correct so there's a hell of fees that are out there with all the companies were charging you just one time to ninety nine to set up the account on that's for the life of the account for any amount regardless of the amount there's storage religion volt which is six basis points which is the most competitive out there and then there's fifteen dollars per month maintenance of the i._r._a. which is also the lowest in the industry and in the core one of core fee with us is just the one percent to transact so if somebody does want to buy and sell somebody wants to hold either way were it's only one percent of versus yet ten to fifteen percent is kind of the standard for in the companies that are offering us right now if somebody's interested in this where can they find you guys i can just go to our website i trust capital dot com to sign up you can receive our mailings videos and when you know the platform as launch you can come in and you can begin to trade and for those who wanted to sign up we are doing a nanno lead tornado giveaway with our partnership with ledger we have i trust branded lead tornado so every two weeks we are picking randomly someone <hes> they so choose you can pick me at randomly i would love one of those morgan blink thank you for coming on crooked and one oh i hope you all enjoyed that that was super super informative tax advisers we're not financial advisers nothing that we say on the show is any of that sort of advice but <hes> i have a 4._0._1._k. companies that i've worked for in the past and i know that i want to get more exposure to the space i'm going to try this this out i'm gonna roll it into it and i think it's super important that something like this not only exist but thrives it finally allows people who are too afraid to go on exchange or control their own money right how a traditional institution manager for them this is the bridge decrypt sorely needed right and i like how they take security so intensely right at the forefront of their mind is securing digital assets they have a very a very serious sense of service that they provide it's about time someone took responsibility ability it really is i think that this is going to be a whole movement right think about how much money in the whole world or you know let's just stick in america right is in the 4._0._1._k. world right if we started to just unlock one one percent a year half a percent to whatever small percent in started rolling all those 4._0._1._k.'s in decrypt i mean that would do amazing things not only for building personal wealth but for the prices of these crypto acids with that new flow of capital little and you're talking half of one percent the american economy that i think is like ten trillion dollars a year so that's already at half a percent that's twice the entire market cap of cryptocurrency right now already flowing in
Crossover Week: Female Criminals (Linda Hazzard Pt. 1)
"Hi Listeners due to the unfortunate spread of Kovic Nineteen. Podcast is decided to temporarily halt recording this week. Although it saddens us to interrupt you're listening experience we feel that it's a necessary precaution to ensure the safety of our hosts and staff in lieu of this week's episode. I'm thrilled to share with you. Some exceptional episodes from another series. I host called female criminals for all you. Fans of our colts podcast. You'll find these episodes on the cult like methods of murder by Dr Linda. Burr field hazard to be absolutely fascinating. Her crimes included abuse fraud and perhaps most famously starvation. You can examine the psychology motivations and atrocities of other female felons by following the podcast series. Female criminals on spotify new episodes premiere every Wednesday. Listen free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised this episode features graphic descriptions of the effects of starvation. That some people may find disturbing extreme. Caution is advised especially for children under thirteen in nineteen eleven Claire Williamson lay limp on her bed at around seventy pounds. The thirty three year old woman was fading quickly. She had wasted away both mentally and physically until she could barely speak. Claire Sister Dorothea who she called Dora. Too weak to walk herself was carried into the room by a doctor as she was placed by Clair's bedside Dora took note of her sisters emaciated face. Claire was so gaunt. She was almost unrecognizable realizing. Dora was beside her. Claire led out almost indecipherable whisper. She wished to speak to her sister alone. The doctor lingered outside of the door as Claire struggled to speak to her sister one last time but she was too weak to utter a single word. This was exactly the doctor wanted as she loomed in the doorway. She commended herself for a job. Well Done Dora. And Claire had entrusted lives and valuables to her but the doctor took advantage of their naievty slowly and systematically she'd drained them of their strength and they'd paid her for the privilege after all. This woman was no Dr Linda. Burr field hazard was a con artist but worst of all. She was a murderer picture. A Murderer A- gangster. A thief did you picture a woman. We didn't think so- society associates men with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female every Wednesday? We examined the psychology motivations and atrocities of female criminals. Hi I'm Vanessa Richardson. And you're listening to female criminals or podcast original. You can find episodes of female criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream. Female criminals for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type female criminals in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network? And if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening it really does help today. We're covering Dr Linda. Burr field hazard a turn of the Twentieth Century Medical Practitioner who preached starvation as a method of curing disease. This week will see how Linda's childhood exposure to fat medicine. Not only left her ill for much of her youth but shaped her interest in alternative medicine. We'll also follow Linda as she established her first macabre. Starvation practices next week will follow Linda as she builds a sanitarium in Washington. The Hazard Institute of Natural Therapeutics or as locals ominously called it. Starvation heights and finally. We'll see how two sisters expose Linda's horrific malpractice for what it truly was murder. Linda Laura Burr field was born in carver Minnesota to Susanna Neil and Montgomery birth field in eighteen sixty seven montgomery was a corporal in the Ninth Minnesota Infantry during the civil war and was by all accounts a doting father to his children. Linda had a loving childhood in Star Lake Township in central Minnesota the eldest of seven children. She was outgoing and interested in the outdoors. It was during her youth that Linda was first introduced to the idea of restricting one's diet for health benefits. Linda's parents kept a largely vegetarian household. A common practice at the time previous activists such as Reverend William Metcalfe and Sylvester. Graham founded the American Vegetarian Society and Alternative Medicine Practitioners. Such as Dr John Harvey Kellogg promoted Vegetarianism as a means of biologic living while these minor dietary restrictions likely had some small effect on Linda's eventual belief in starvation cures. It was her childhood doctor that left the most lasting impact. Linda's father Montgomery put a great amount of trust in the burgeoning medical establishment and believed his children should see a physician whether they were sick or well. He thought that modern medicine could not only cure illnesses but prevent them from happening in the first place. Although Montgomery acted out of love the outcome of these supposedly preventative treatments were devastating. The family's doctor told Montgomery his children were suffering from intestinal parasites despite the fact that none of them showed any symptoms. Though his motivations for fabricating the illness are unknown. The misdiagnosis is most likely a case of misinformation in antiquated medicine. And so the doctor prescribed the BURFORD children. Blue Mass pills. A Common Nineteenth Century Cure but contained liquorice alathea glycerin oil rose honey and large amounts of mercury. The history of Mercury's medical use is extensive ancient Greek and Arabic cultures utilized mercury compounds to treat the narrow disease and mercury itself later became popular in the US as a treatment for syphilis. One Mercury based medicine used to treat Linda Calomel was known as a Cathartic meaning. It induced severe vomiting diarrhea. Today we know that ingesting mercury causes severe poisoning and its side effects are debilitating both physically and mentally before. I continue with Linda's psychology. Please note that I'm not a licenced psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. According to the American Journal of Psychiatry Ingesting Mercury or its compounds leads to muscle. Weakness issues with coordination and even trouble seeing and speaking calomel in particular was known to inflict horrible side effects in addition to causing gum inflammation and tooth loss exposure could also inflict neurological symptoms such as psychosis dementia and even personality changes though. There's no recorded evidence of exactly how mercury poisoning impacted Linda. Psychologically she certainly suffered from. It's more tangible side effects. As a child Linda experienced frequent vomiting and diarrhea. Her teeth fell out and she was chronically. Tired and thin eventually. Linda came to understand that it was the treatment provided to her by her childhood. Doctor that had made her. Ill not her alleged parasites years later she wrote. I now know that this powerful poison did irreparable injury to my intestines retarding and preventing their development and growth to such a degree. That even to this day. I'm compelled to resort to the enema daily. Though it's unclear exactly when Linda came to this revelation by age eighteen. She'd stopped seeing her doctor and claimed independence over her physical wellbeing around this same time. She also met her first husband thirty two year old Irwin. A Perry in eighteen eighty six. Linda married Irwin and started a new chapter. She was in love and slowly regaining her health. But which should have been a joyous time was soon plagued with despair. Linda lost her father. Montgomery only one month after her wedding. She carried that grief for the rest of her life. Three years after Linda's marriage to Irwin the couple moved to Fergus. Falls Minnesota. They're twenty one year old. Linda gave birth to a son named Rollin. In August of eighteen eighty nine and two years later their daughter Nina Floyd was born. Nina was oddly absent from the Perry household. Those who knew the family recalled very few people ever saw or heard from her but those who had met Nina said Linda was strangely cold toward her only daughter. Helen Buchanan a family friend recalled Linda's bizarre mothering style. Helen remembered that whenever Nina asked for a new dress. Dr Hazard would always give her money for material but never buy her a new dress. Helen didn't believe Linda. Anina had a normal kind of mother daughter. Bond in fact she characterized it as harsh much later after Linda's death she left Nina a single one dollar bill in her will and nothing more. It was almost worse than leaving her with nothing at all but while Linda seemingly resented Nina. She adored her son. Rollin and often spoiled him. Helen Buchanan felt. These affections were misplaced. She described the boy as worthless but Linda's dichotomies relationships with her children weren't all that was strange about the Perry family in eighteen. Ninety eight when Nina and Rollin were still young Erwin inexplicably disappeared over four years later in the fall of nineteen to thirty four year old. Linda filed for divorce in Hennepin County Minnesota. She claimed Irwin had abandoned her and their children without a trace with no indication of his whereabouts but eighteen ninety eight. The Year Irwin. Vanished was also the year. Linda later claimed she began treating herself through fasting whether Irwin left Linda afterward or if Linda starvation was in response to the trauma from his abandonment is unclear. According to a report by Missouri Western State University's Department of Psychology abandoned spouses go through similar emotional processes as those whose partners have died however the abandoned spouse experiences the additional pain of rejection and often lacks community support during their time of intense loss as a result. Those who are left behind often have to restructure their lives in order to support themselves and their children on top of this new financial instability. They may also go through an identity crisis. It's possible that Linda's obsession with fasting was away for her to rediscover herself. According to a study in the academic journal Frontiers nutrition fasting often result in a sense of achievement pride and self control despite increased hunger and irritability during such an unstable time in Linda's life restricting. Her Diet likely helped provide a sense of power amidst the trauma of her husband's abandonment. This renewed ownership. She felt over her own life. Very well could have led her to transform herself entirely. After Irwin Left. Linda began studying osteopathy in pursuit of a nursing career. Then in nineteen. Oh Two when her? Divorce from Irwin was finalized. She sent her children to live with her mother around this time. Linda discovered the works of Dr Edward Hooker. Dewey and alternative medicine fasting specialist. She read his books bull racially in one titled The Gospel of Health. Dr Do we wrote about a typhoid fever case. He took in eighteen seventy seven. He claimed that fasting which he called letting nature take her course cured his patient in just thirty days. Linda was riveted not long after Linda. Also discovered Dewey's essay. The no breakfast plan. The plan argued that overeating is the cause of all disease and that skipping breakfast and only consuming two meals per day would heal both mental and physical disorders. The method completely revolutionized her medical philosophy inspired by Dewey's teachings in Nineteen Oh two. Linda established her very own practice in Minneapolis. But what began as an idealistic philosophy and healing would soon devolve into something. Much deadlier coming up. Dr Linda Burr field hazards starvation methods claim their first victim now back to the story in nineteen zero to thirty four year old. Linda burr field had reached a pivotal period of transition after her husband abandoned her in eighteen ninety eight. Linda was desperate to take back control of her life. She went to school for nursing and adopted a fasting regimen. Eventually she discovered the writings of Dr Edward Hooker. Dewey a fasting specialist. She studied under for years until his death then in nineteen. Oh two galvanized by her studies. Linda opened the private practice operating out of her apartment in downtown Minneapolis Minnesota. Though it's unclear if Linda actually had a medical license at the time the study of medicine was going through a major period of transformation and the standards for licensure were inconsistent. In fact most medical schools were for profit institutions meaning the only requirement for both acceptance and graduation was that students were able to pay the schools fees but what. Linda may have lacked in medical knowledge. She made up for in business savvy. She heavily advertised her new practice in her ads. Linda claimed that fasting could cure almost any disease in one. She stated cases pronounced incurable by medical physicians recovered under the regimen. I imposed symptoms presented ranged from chronic constipation diabetes and syphilis to paralysis. Linda's ads earned her several clients and as she established herself in the community her practice began to grow and Soon Linda met her first alleged victim. Gertrude young forty one year old gertrude had experienced a stroke that left one foot and one arm completely useless for years. She'd been living in a hopeless state of partial paralysis. Treatment by Dr could only ease the pain. Her limbs would never recover. Gertrude was unhappy with her existence. Her face drooped slightly from her stroke and because she was unable to dress herself or perform other basic tasks. She was forced to rely on others around the clock. She yearned for a permanent cure win. Traditional medicine offered her no solutions. She searched for another answer. That's when she found Dr Hazard Gertrude. I started seeing Linda in. Minneapolis apartment practice. She was prescribed strict fasting regimen but three weeks into her treatment. Gertrude began experiencing horrible side effects. One morning she woke up to a vomiting fit so violent it crippled her and when her staff opened the windows of her bedroom the fresh air only seemed to make her condition. Worse worried for her mistress's health a nurse called a licensed physician Dr Yuji Williams who had treated Gertrude in the past. She urged him to come. See Gertrude immediately. Once Dr Williams arrived he was shocked at what he found Gertrude. Skin was a pasty yellow. And Her body sunken. He demanded that she break her fast immediately. But Gertrude refused. Linda had imposed a forty day fast and she was set on continuing the regimen convinced. It would be her Miracle Cure. There was nothing Dr Williams could do shortly after Williams visit on. Eighteenth nineteen O two. Gertrude passed away. She made it to the thirty ninth day of Linda's recommended forty day fast before succumbing to starvation at the time of her death. She weighed only one hundred five pounds. Linda attributed gertrude cause of death to her chronic paralysis but Dr Williams would prove her wrong he was also the county coroner and insisted on performing a post mortem exam on Gertrude Body. And just like he expected. He found. That gertrude had indeed died of starvation. Dr Williams was baffled by Linda. What could possibly be her motivation for starving her client but soon he received his answer. Investigators discovered that Gertrude was missing large amounts of jewelry and a number of expensive items from her home. It's assumed Linda had killed gertrude for her wealth. Linda claimed gertrude bequeathed her jewelry to a certain nurse who worked at her practice but conveniently no one was able to track the woman down. In light of the investigation's findings Dr Williams pursued legal action against Linda. The Minneapolis Daily Times printed a front page headline that read coroner. In crusade against starvation poorest urges prosecution as sequel to Woman's death that winter thirty four year old. Linda took to the media to defend her case in an interview with a reporter. She said Gertrude was well on her way to recovery claiming she regained the use of her right foot and even her arm. She blamed Gertrude decline on her patient. Linda alleged that over time. Gertrude stopped cooperating with her medical recommendations. Linda also claimed that Gertrude eventually admitted that another doctor had diagnosed her with a fatal disease in addition to her incurable paralysis. According to Linda no matter what treatments she prescribed. She wouldn't have been able to save her client's life regardless of the veracity of Linda's claims ultimately she escaped prosecution. There were no laws against the practice of fasting in the state of Minnesota and therefore there were no legal grounds on which to pursue the case. But it wouldn't be long before she found herself in court for a very different kind of case less than a year after Gertrude. Murder thirty five year old. Linda met thirty-three-year-old Samuel Hargrave. Sam was tall handsome and earned the attention of many women so much so that when Linda and Sam met in Nineteen Oh three he was already married. Sam's wife Viva Fitch. Patrick was the daughter of a wealthy state senator from Iowa after their wedding the pair moved to Minneapolis. It's unclear exactly when or how Linda and Sam met but shortly after they began an affair. But Sam's liaison with Linda wasn't the only secret he was harboring years before unknown to Viva. He had married another woman under a different name. Sam Hazard Sam eventually left his first wife bringing with him. Large amounts of debt during this time. Sam adopted the surname Hargrave to throw investigators off his trail. Sam needed help paying off his debts and soon he found not one but two wealthy women to assist him. Viva and Linda neither knew of the other's existence until October of nineteen o three when Sam inexplicably introduced viva to Linda as his wife. The next day Linda sent Viva a series of vitriolic letters. They were anonymous but spoke of a longstanding affair. Viva was beside herself according to a study entitled sex differences in attitudes toward partner infidelity by researchers. Michael J. Tackler and Heather M. Jeffers men tend to become more upset. If a significant other's infidelity is primarily sexual rather than emotional however women consider emotional infidelity in addition to sex as a much greater betrayal than alone when both Viva and Linda learned that Sam was involved with another woman. They were distraught. Viva begged Sam to limit contact with Linda. And Sam vowed he would but just a few weeks later on November eleventh nineteen o three he did just the opposite he married her four days later. Sam Not only revealed to Viva that he had marry Linda but he also claimed that their own marriage was never legitimate. There was no record of their union in Minnesota likely because he was married under the false name hargrave but viva wasn't going down without a fight viva and her. Senator Father Filed Bigamy Charges Against Sam. The trial captivated all of Minneapolis. The story was ripe for drama. A scandalous love triangle. In which a female doctor. And the daughter of a state senator fought over there right to be married to a con man. It almost felt like fiction headlines read neither will give up hazard and hundreds gathered in the courtroom as Linda and Viva argued over. Who was legally married to Sam? Linda claimed she paid over ten thousand dollars to help Sam with his defense but no matter how hard Linda fought the case. The letters exchanged between Viva and Sam convinced the jury that the pair were in fact married when Sam and Lindo WED on February Ninth. Nineteen O four. The court sentence Sam to two years in prison for bigamy during his time in jail. Vive stood by Sam side and he by hers it appeared. He fell back in love with her. However Sam's history of financial motivations and considerable debt may imply otherwise diva had just conveniently received an inheritance from an uncle and was working on procuring. A five thousand dollar appeal bond for her husband. Linda was left heartbroken once again. She declared to the press. If Mr Hazard has chosen to state that he would marry the Iowa girl when released from prison I have at least done what I could to fulfill my marriage vows to love honor and cherish but shortly after Sam's released from jail he experienced yet another change of heart. He returned to Linda's side and the two began running Linda's practice together. Linda was elated and apparently showed no. Ill will towards Sam for abandoning her for Viva while in prison. Instead she was determined to give their life together a fresh start in nineteen oh six they moved to Washington state seemingly to escape their sordid reputation in Minnesota there. Linda got to work once again. She operated her practice out of her apartment without a full staff all the while writing her first book in one thousand nine hundred eight forty year old. Linda published fasting for the cure of disease. Her writings laid the groundwork for her fasting program as well as key pieces of what would later become her legal defense for instance. She explained death in the fast. Never results from deprivation of food but is the inevitable consequence of vitality sapped to the last degree by organic imperfection. This was an explanation. Linda seemingly established after Gertrude. Young's murder years later. Linda would consistently attribute her victims cause of death to whatever pre existing condition. They complained of before entering treatment in another passage. Linda laid out a series of beliefs. That exemplify her disdain and blatant rejection of traditional medical practices she wrote professional dicta assert that permanent injury will result from the continued use of the Anima and that. The germ is the cause of disease. Each of these opinions is dogmatically denied and its opposite declared to be the truth. Linda's book lured even more patients to her practice. She advertised fasting for the cure of disease in newspapers across the country and soon followers of alternative medicine nationwide wrote in to obtain her advice but as her popularity rose so did her murderous potential coming up. We'll see how to wealthy British Sisters Clare and Dorothea Williamson discovered. The doctors deadly fasting program. Now back to the story in nineteen. Oh eight forty year. Old Linda burr field moved to Washington with her new husband. Sam Hazard there. They expanded her practice and she wrote her first book and soon enough. It's writings lured Linda's next to victims in to her grasp thirty four year. Old Claire and thirty eight year old. Dorothea Williamson Claire and Dorothea who also went by. Dora experienced death early in their lives by the time. The pair reached adulthood. They had lost their father. Their mother and two sisters Clara. Dora were worth millions. Not only did they have cash assets but also landholdings in Canada the US England and Australia. They spent much of their time traveling around the world visiting there many properties and although well educated the two sisters but particularly Claire had a childish naievty about them cater to their whole lives. The women had little real world experience. This made them exceptionally susceptible to the likes of Dr Linda. Burr field hazard on top of their ingenuousness clarin. Dora experienced a variety of minor ailments during their lives. Claire was diagnosed with a dropped uterus. Which doctor told her was affecting her spine and inflaming her reproductive organs previously. She suffered from a sensitive stomach that she believed to be brought on by nervous exhaustion. Claire attributed her illness to what she deemed the circumstances of her birth. Clair's father was injured while serving in and Clair's mother worried terribly about him throughout her pregnancy. Only two months after Clare was born. Her father passed away according to Cambridge University. Press early traumatic experiences can affect a child's response to stress and increase anxiety disorders termed bio behavioral synchrony. A mother's trauma can affect the way. A child copes with difficulties for the rest of their lives. Claire may have absorbed her mother's worry during her time as a baby which may have manifested in psychosomatic symptoms throughout much of her childhood. Claire was afflicted with mostly undiagnosed medical issues. Some of these. Mrs May have been physical displays of the pain. She felt from absorbing her mother stressed so early in life because Claire often experienced stomach issues as a child. Doctors advised church arrest often as a result. Claire spent much of her earliest years in bed later. Claire Remembered being incredibly stressed as a child she described being very nervous and constantly crying. Dora also experienced her own ailments. She claimed she suffered. From acute rheumatic pains and swollen glands. However a cousin of the two sisters once claimed being rich is the cause of all their problems. Clarin Dorothea are ill because they can afford to be ill and though we don't know whether the sisters suffered from true debilitating illnesses or twin cases of hypochondria. One thing is for certain. They spared no expense on any treatment. They believed may cure them. This sisters sought out many forms of alternative medicine for instance. They entered a water therapy program in Riverside California where they drank gallons of water at a time in order to flush their systems. These sessions didn't make much of a difference however and clear felt. The doctor's suggestions weren't helping her dropped uterus in another treatment. The physician advised Claire to put boric acid and glycerin soaked cotton batting inside her vagina for three days a week but Claire was disappointed with the outcome. The treatment only cost her more pain disheartened. She searched for her next possible cure. She found an ad for Linda's book. Fasting for the cure of disease in a local California newspaper Clara felt as though she looked everywhere for answers and only been disappointed again and again but when she discovered Linda's add it was everything she was looking for. New Hope so on September second nineteen ten the sisters mail a dollar and twenty five cents to request a copy almost thirty five dollars today when they finally received the book one passage in particular captivated them Linda wrote. It should not require an exhaustive argument to establish the fact. That disease has its origin in impaired digestion. The only disease is impure blood and its sole cause impaired digestion. The Williams sisters were entirely convinced. Finally they had found the cure they'd been looking for. They wrote to Linda immediately as they corresponded with Dr Linda. Dora and Claire grew more and more excited and after several letters Linda had convinced the pair. Her fasting treatment would entirely cure them of all their ailments. Day were elated. The sisters decided they would visit at her new sanitarium in Lalla Washington. She advertised it as a sort of countryside retreat however. Linda regretfully inform them that the sanitarium wouldn't be ready until January. Nineteen eleven in the meantime however she invited them to Seattle where she was based to begin their regimen before moving to the Allala facility clarin. Dora jumped on the invitation. They told their family who disapproved of alternative medicine that they were headed to Canada. Claire wrote to Dr Linda to express her excitement. She said I would gladly stop eating anything as I get constant indigestion so I'm counting the days until we arrive in Seattle and I can eliminate this matter collected me when the sisters arrived in Washington State. They met Linda at her office where they were glad to find a confident woman with an answer to all of their questions like everyone who met Linda. The sisters saw a magnetism in her. That made them trust her instantly. They couldn't wait to begin. Linda taught the sisters how to create a vegetable broth by boiling tomatoes. In warm water. This would be one of the few foods they could consume. Every day. Linda explained she would come to their apartment to administer osteopathic massages and animas. The sisters didn't seem to have misgivings about the bizarre process in their minds. The extreme treatment promised dramatic results and they were all too anxious to see them but after just the first week of fasting clarin. Dora's hopeful dispositions faded with their strength they were growing weaker by the day and soon they found that the simplest things were exhausting. The sisters frequently fainted one day. Dora heard Claire Fall in the next room but was too weak herself to get up and help her but despite their extreme fatigue Linda still push them to continue treatment to guarantee. The sisters could take animas long past the point. They lost their strength. Linda stretched canvas over the bathtub to support them when they were too weak to support themselves. Linda had the sisters lay on the canvas as she administered the animas which were painful and sometimes caused fainting spells but she would insist we must eliminate the poisons dear girls as the sisters fast continued. Mary fields a neighbor. Who lived in an adjacent apartment often heard the two women moaning through the walls over the weeks as fields observed. Claire Andorra lose significant amounts of weight. She grew increasingly worried when nurse. Nellie Sherman who worked for Linda. Help the ailing sisters take their daily walks down the hall. Fields took note of Dora and Clair's physical states. She recalled Claire became so weak. She could hardly walk. Even with Miss Sherman's assistance. She would assist herself by placing her hand against the wall as a child walking the last time I saw her in the hall. It was very distressing to me to talk to her. She was so thin. It wasn't long until another neighbor Clara. Corrigan took the starving girls. What she saw disturbed her deeply. When Clara came for a neighborly visit. Linda was administering Claire. One of her prescribed osteopathic massages Clara observed. Dr Linda slamming her fists against Clair's emaciated thighs back stomach and forehead. As Claire Groaned through the Treatment Clara commented to Linda that the needing seemed to intense but the doctor quickly retorted that on the contrary the seemingly brutal massage served to promote circulation. Feeling worried for the sisters Clara later returned when she was sure Linda had left when she offered to give Claire. A sponge bath. She noticed bruises all over her body. Dora's physical condition wasn't as dire as clair's but mentally she was far worse. Dora couldn't converse with her sister. She could only rise periodically for a sip of orange juice. The Sole Sustenance Linda allowed her to consume. It's unclear if Linda treated Oliver patients with the same level of attention that she devoted to the Williamson sisters but her strict regimen made Claire. Andorra feel as if the doctor had taken a special interest in their case. This was certainly true though. It wasn't the sisters wellbeing. Linda was concerned with as much as their wealth a few weeks into their treatment when the Williamson sisters grew so weak they could barely walk or think straight. Linda started enquiring into their finances. Linda eventually offered to keep their valuables in a safe in her office. At the time neither clear nor Dora saw anything wrong with Dr Hazards offer but of course as both of them were almost consistently delirious they were in no state of mind to make that judgment so the pair handed over there expensive jewelry as well as their deeds to land in Vancouver content in the knowledge that they're trusted doctor would keep them safe by March of nineteen eleven over a month. After the sisters began their treatment their condition became so dire that even nurse Nellie. Sherman grew concerned when Claire became especially L. Nellie called Dr Augusta Brewer and Osteopathic Doctrine Seattle. Who had treated Clare Spine before? She'd seen Linda by the time. Sherman contacted Dr Brewer. Claire had been fasting for over thirty days and Dora for over forty four weeks. The sisters had consumed nothing but vegetable broth and orange juice. Dr Brewer urged nurse Sherman to feed the girls more sustenance but it was no use. Sherman explained that door and Claire wouldn't eat anything more than what Linda recommended as the days stretched on. Nellie Sherman's conscience only grew heavier soon. She also confided in Dorothea Keck a cashier at the local grocery store where she shopped for the ingredients to the sisters prescribed vegetable broths. According to Greg Olson author of starvation heights nurse. Sherman told Keck that she regretted working under Linda. She told her if I knew what I was. Undertaking with the Williamson Girls. I would never take another case like it. It's not worth it but though Nellie Sherman nearly reached a breaking point even after reaching out to both Dr Brewer and Dorothea Caq. She would continue to stay loyal to Dr Hazard. Disobedience in the light of an immoral act may seem baffling but it's very prevalent phenomenon of human behavior philosopher. Hana aren't calls this. The banality of evil aren't explains that even normal people can commit wicked crimes without questioning their actions simply because someone in a position of power has ordered them to do so and in the case of nurse. Nellie Sherman there's no doubt that Linda's power and charm tightened its grip on her loyalty. Linda was Sherman's employer entirely responsible for her livelihood. It's not surprising. She stayed with the doctor despite the horrors she witnessed every day. She most likely felt as if she had no choice. In April of nineteen eleven four months into the Williamson sisters fasting regimen. The pair was transferred to Linda's medical sanitarium in Lala despite the fact that it remained unfinished and without electricity forty three year old. Linda deemed sufficient for her eager patients to the sisters. Linda was simply fulfilling her promise but Linda had more nefarious reasons to bring the two women to Allala so soon out in the remote coastal town. Linda could further seclude the sisters. There were no curious. Neighbors in law and further isolation meant more dramatic manipulation and the weaker they got the closer Linda got to their inheritance in March of nineteen eleven. A pair of ambulances arrived to take the incredibly frail. Claire and Dora upstate where they would continue their treatments with Linda. The sisters neighbor Mary fields came to say goodbye. She estimated Clair's weight at around seventy pounds and Dora's wait at slightly more. Mary stood next to Dr Hazard who in her white coat promised the girls peaceful transition after their arrival at the sanitarium but the Hazard Institute of Natural Therapeutics was a far cry from the Paradise. Dr Linda had promised soon the sisters would be introduced to a whole new host of horrors in a living hell on earth starvation heights. Thanks again for tuning into female criminals. We'll be back next week with part two of Linda. Burr field hazards story will follow the steady decline of the Williamson sisters health and discover the reason why Linda's Washington sanitarium was shut down forever. For more information on Dr Lynda Bird Field Hazard amongst the many sources we used we found starvation heights by Greg Olsen extremely helpful to our research you can find all episodes of female criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only spotify already. Have all of your favorite music? But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like female criminals for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream female criminals on spotify. Just open the APP and type female criminals in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram. At podcast and twitter at Park has network. We'll see next time female criminals was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original executive producers. Include Max and Ron Cutler sound designed by Anthony Val sick with production assistance by Ron Shapiro? Carly Madden Aaron Larson and Joel Stein. This episode of Female Criminals was written by Bailey. Benfield with writing assistance by Abigail Cannon. I'm Vanessa Richardson.
The Starvation Cure Pt. 1: Dr. Linda Burfield Hazzard
"Due to the graphic nature of this woman's crimes listener discretion is advised this episode features graphic descriptions of the effects of starvation that some people may find disturbing curbing caution is advised especially for children under thirteen in nineteen eleven claire Williamson lay limp on her bed at around seventy pounds. The thirty three year old woman was fading quickly. She had wasted away both mentally and physically until she could barely speak. Claire Sister Dorothea who she called Dora too who week to walk herself was carried into the room by Dr as she was placed by Clair's bedside. Dora took note of her. Sisters emaciated initiated face. Claire was so gaunt. She was almost unrecognizable. Realizing Dora was is beside her. Claire led out an almost indecipherable whisper. She wished to speak to her sister alone. The doctor lingered outside the door as Claire struggled to speak to her sister one last time but she was too weak to utter a single word word. This was exactly what the doctor wanted as she loomed in the doorway. She commended herself for a job. Well Done Dora and Claire had entrusted their lives and valuables to her but the doctor took advantage of their naievty slowly Lee and systematically she'd drained them of their strength and they'd paid her for the privilege after all. This woman was no no Dr Linda. Burr field hazard was a con artist. But worst of all she was a murderer picture. A murderer a gangster a thief. Did you picture a woman. We didn't think so- society associates men with with dangerous crimes. But what happens when the perpetrator is female every Wednesday. We examined the psychology motivations and atrocities Of female criminals. Hi I'm Vanessa Richardson. And you're listening to female criminals apar- cast original. You can find episodes of female L. Criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to strain female criminals for free on spotify just to open the APP and type female criminals in the search bar at podcast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at park last network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really does help today. We're covering Dr Linda. Burr field hazard a turn of the Twentieth Century premedicated practitioner who preached starvation as a method of curing disease. This week will see how Linda's childhood exposure to fatten medicine. Not only left her ill for much of her youth but shaped her interest in alternative medicine. We'll also follow Linda as she established her first first macabre starvation practices next week will follow Linda. She builds a sanitarium in Washington. The Hazard Institute of Natural Therapeutics Therapeutics or as locals ominously called it starvation heights and finally we'll see how two sisters exposed -sposed Linda's horrific malpractice for what it truly was murder. Linda Laura Burr field was born in carver Minnesota to Susanna Neil and Montgomery Burr field in eighteen sixty seven montgomery was a corporal corporal in the Ninth Minnesota Infantry during the civil war and was by all accounts a doting father to his children. Linda had a loving childhood L. Hood in Star Lake Township in central Minnesota the eldest of seven children. She was outgoing and interested in the outdoors. It was during her youth that Linda was first introduced to the idea of restricting one's diet for health benefits. Linda's parents kept a largely vegetarian in household a common practice at the time previous activists. Such as Reverend William Metcalfe and Sylvester Graham founded the American Vegetarian -Tarian Society and Alternative Medicine Practitioners. Such as Dr John Harvey Kellogg promoted Vegetarianism as a means of biologic it could living. While these minor dietary restrictions likely had some small effect on Linda's eventual belief in starvation cures. It was her childhood childhood. Doctor that left the most lasting impact. Linda's father Montgomery put a great amount of trust in the burgeoning medical establishment bushmen and believed. His children should see a physician whether they were sick or well. He thought that modern medicine could not only cure illnesses but prevent lent them from happening in the first place. Although Montgomery acted out of love the outcome of these supposedly preventative treatments were devastating. Aiding the family's doctor told Montgomery his children were suffering from intestinal parasites despite the fact that none of them showed any symptoms though his motivations for fabricating the illness are unknown. The misdiagnosis is most likely a case of misinformation in antiquated medicine. And so the doctor prescribed Burr field children. Blue Mass pills a common nineteenth century cure that contained liquorice Alathea glycerine rose honey and large amounts of mercury. The history of Mercury's medical uses extensive ancient Greek and Arabic cultures utilized mercury compounds to treat the aerial disease and mercury itself later became popular in the US as a treatment for syphilis one. Mercury based medicine used to treat Linda Calomel was known as a Cathartic meaning it induced severe vomiting and diarrhea. Today we know that ingesting mercury causes severe poisoning and its side effects are debilitating both physically and mentally early before I continue with Linda's psychology. Please note that I'm not a licenced psychiatrist or psychologist but I have done a lot of research for the show. According to the American Journal of Psychiatry Ingesting Mercury or its compounds leads to muscle weakness issues with coordination. An an even trouble seeing and speaking calomel in particular was known to inflict horrible side effects. In addition to causing gum inflammation and tooth loss loss exposure could also inflict neurological symptoms such as psychosis dementia and even personality changes. Though there's there's no recorded evidence of exactly how mercury poisoning impacted Linda. Psychologically she certainly suffered from. It's more tangible side effects. As a child Linda experienced frequent vomiting and diarrhea. Her teeth fell out and she was chronically. Tired and thin eventually Linda. It came to understand that it was the treatment provided to her by her childhood doctor that had made her ill not her alleged parasites years years later she wrote. I now know that this powerful poison did irreparable injury to my intestines retarding and preventing their development Dan Growth to such a degree that even to this day. I'm compelled to resort to the enema daily though it's unclear exactly exactly when Linda came to this revelation by age eighteen. She'd stopped seeing her doctor and claimed independence over her physical wellbeing around this same time. She also met her first husband. Thirty two year old Irwin. A Perry in eighteen eighty six Linda. The married Irwin and started a new chapter. She was in love and slowly regaining her health. But which should have been a joyous time was soon and plagued with despair. Linda lost her father Montgomery only one month after her wedding. She carried that grief for the rest rest of her life. Three years after Linda's marriage to Irwin the couple moved to Fergus. Falls Minnesota there 21-year-old any one year old. Linda gave birth to a son named Rollin. In August of eighteen eighty nine and two years later their daughter Nina floor was born born. Nina was oddly absent from the Perry household. Those who knew the family recalled very few people ever saw or heard from her but those who had met Nina said Linda was strangely cold toward her only daughter. Helen Buchanan a family friend recalled recalled Linda's bazaar mothering style. Helen remembered that whenever Nina asked for a new dress Dr Hazard would always give her money for material deal but never buy her a new dress. Helen didn't believe Linda. Nina had a normal kind of mother daughter. Bond in fact she characterized is did as harsh much later after Linda's death. She left Nina a single one dollar bill in her will and nothing more. It was almost worse than leaving her with nothing at all. But while Linda seemingly resented Nina she adored her son Rollin and often often spoiled him. Helen do cannon felt. These affections were misplaced. She described the boy as worthless but Linda's dichotomies autumn is relationships with her children. Weren't all that was strange about the Perry family in eighteen ninety eight. When Nina and Rollin were still young Erwin win inexplicably disappeared over four years later in the fall of nineteen to thirty four year? Old Linda filed for divorce in Hennepin County Minnesota. She claimed Irwin had abandoned her and their children without a trace with no indication of his whereabouts bouts but eighteen ninety eight. The Year Irwin vanished was also the year Linda later claimed she began treating herself through fasting. disting- whether Irwin left Linda afterward or if Linda starvation was in response to the trauma from his abandonment is unclear. According to a report by Missouri Western State University's Department of Psychology abandoned spouses go through similar emotional processes as those those whose partners have died however the abandoned spouse experiences the additional pain of rejection and often lacks community support during their time of intense loss as a result. Those who are left behind often have to restructure their lives in order to support themselves and their children on top of this new financial instability. They may also go through an identity crisis. It's possible that Linda's it does obsession with fasting. Was Away for her to rediscover herself according to a study in the academic journal frontiers and nutrition fasting often and results in a sense of achievement. Pride and self control despite increased hunger and irritability during such an unstable able time in Linda's life restricting her diet likely helped provide a sense of power amidst the trauma of her husband's abandonment. This renewed ownership ship. She felt over her own life very well could have led her to transform herself entirely. After Irwin Left. Linda began studying being osteopathy in pursuit of nursing career. Then in nineteen. Oh Two when her. Divorce from Irwin was finalized. She sent her children to live with her mother around this time Linda discovered the works of Dr Edward Hooker. Dewey and alternative medicine and fasting specialist. She read his books. Looks for racially in one titled The Gospel of Health. Dr Dewey wrote about a typhoid fever case. He took in eighteen seventy seven he. He claimed that fasting which he called letting nature take her course cured his patient in just thirty days. Linda was riveted riveted not long after Linda. Also discovered Dewey's essay. The no breakfast plan. The plan argued that overeating is the cause. Ause of all disease and that skipping breakfast and only consuming two meals per day would heal both mental and physical disorders. The method completely revolutionized her medical philosophy inspired by Dewey's teachings in Nineteen Oh two. Linda established her very very own practice in Minneapolis. But what began as an idealistic philosophy and healing would soon devolve into something. Much coach deadlier coming up. Dr Linda Burr field hazards starvation methods claim their first first victim. Hi Vanessa I'm so excited for you to check out an incredible new podcast original. It's it's called dictators and it lets you delve into the minds of some of the world's most feared leaders you can hear new episodes. Every Tuesday here hosts Kate Right and Richard. To tell you more thank you so much. They are natural born leaders with a never ending thirst for power through force and deceit seat. They rise through the ranks towards radicalism. 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Four year old Linda burr field had reached a pivotal period period of transition after her husband abandoned her in eighteen ninety eight. Linda was desperate to take back control of her life. She went to school for Nursing Shing and adopted a fasting regimen. Eventually she discovered the writings of Dr Edward Hooker. Dewey a fasting specialists. She studied under for years until Oh his death then in nineteen. Oh two galvanized by her studies. Linda opened a private practice operating out of her apartment in downtown town. Minneapolis Minnesota though. It's unclear if Linda actually had a medical license at the time the study of medicine was going through a major period of transformation and the standards for licensure were inconsistent in fact most medical schools were for profit institutions meaning the only requirement for both acceptance and graduation was that students were able to pay the schools fees but what. Linda may have lacked within medical knowledge. She made up for in business savvy. She heavily advertised her new practice in her ads. Linda claimed that fasting could could cure almost any disease in one. She stated cases pronounced incurable by medical physicians recovered. Under the regimen I imposed rosed symptoms presented ranged from chronic constipation diabetes and syphilis to paralysis. Linda's ads earned her several. Oh clients and as. She established herself in the community. Her practice began to grow and Soon Linda met her first alleged alleged victim Gertrude. Young forty one year old gertrude had experienced a stroke that left one foot and one arm completely completely useless for years. She'd been living in a hopeless state of partial paralysis. Treatment by Dr could only ease the pain. Her limbs would never recover. Gertrude was unhappy with her existence. Her face drooped slightly from her stroke and because she was unable to dress herself. We're perform other basic tasks. She was forced to rely on others around the clock. She yearned for a permanent cure when traditional final medicine offered her no solutions. She searched for another answer. Dad's when she found Dr Hazard Gertrude. I I started seeing Linda in Minneapolis. Apartment practice. She was prescribed a strict fasting regimen but three weeks into her treatment. Gertrude began experiencing reimbursing horrible side effects. One morning she woke up to a vomiting fit so violent it crippled her and when in her staff opened the windows of her bedroom the fresh air only seemed to make her condition. Worse worried for her mistress's health a nurse called all the licensed physician Dr Yuji Williams who had treated Gertrude in the past she urged him to come. See Gertrude. Immediately once Dr Williams arrived he was shocked at what he found Gertrude. Skin was a pasty yellow and her body sunken. He demanded handed that she break her fast. Immediately but Gertrude refused Linda had imposed a forty day fast and she was set on continuing the regimen convinced. It would be her Miracle Cure. There was nothing Dr Williams could do shortly after Williams visit on November Eighteenth Nineteen O two. Gertrude passed away. She made it to the thirty ninth day a of Linda's recommended forty day fast before succumbing to starvation at the time of her death. She weighed only one hundred five five pounds Linda attributed gertrude cause of death to her chronic paralysis but Dr Williams would prove her wrong he he was also the county coroner and insisted on performing a post mortem exam on Gertrude. Spotty and just like he expected he found that Gertrude. Gertrude had indeed died of starvation. Dr Williams was baffled by Linda. What could possibly be her motivation? Nation for starving her client but soon he received his answer. Investigators discovered that Gertrude was missing large amounts of jewelry at a number number of expensive items from her home. It's assumed Linda had killed gertrude for her wealth Linda and acclaimed. Gertrude had bequeathed her jewelry to a certain nurse who worked at her practice but conveniently no one was able to track the woman down. In light of the investigation's findings Dr Williams pursued legal action against Linda. The Minneapolis Daily Times printed a front-page headline headline that read coroner in Crusade against starvation. Curious urges prosecution as sequel to Woman's death that winter thirty four year old Linda took to the media to defend her case in an interview with a reporter she said Gertrude was well on her way to recovery coverage claiming she'd regained the use of her right foot and even her arm. She blamed Gertrude decline on her patient. Linda alleged alleged that over time. Gertrude stopped cooperating with her medical recommendations. Linda also claimed that Gertrude eventually admitted that another doctor doctor had diagnosed her with a fatal disease in addition to her incurable paralysis. According to Linda no matter what treatments she prescribed lived. She wouldn't have been able to save her client's life. Regardless of the veracity of Linda's claims ultimately she escaped prosecution acution. There were no laws against the practice of fasting in the state of Minnesota and therefore there were no legal grounds on which to pursue the case. But it wouldn't be long before she found herself in court for a very different kind of case less than a year after Gertrude. Murder Order thirty five year old. Linda met thirty-three-year-old Samuel Hargrave. Sam was tall handsome and earned the attention of many women even so much so that when Linda and Sam met in Nineteen Oh three he was already married Sam's wife Viva Fitch. Patrick Rick was the daughter of a wealthy state senator from Iowa after their wedding the pair moved to Minneapolis. It's unclear exactly when or how. Oh Linda and Sam met but shortly after they began an affair. But Sam's liaison with Linda wasn't the only secret he it was harboring years before unknown to Viva. He had married another woman under a different name. Sem Hazard Sam. Eventually he left his first wife bringing with him. Large amounts of debt during this time. Sam adopted the surname Hargrave to throw investigators off his trail. Sam needed help paying off his debts and soon he found not one but two wealthy women to assist him. Viva Lever and Linda neither knew of the other's existence until October of nineteen o three when Sam inexplicably ably introduced viva to Linda as his wife. The next day Linda sent Viva a series of vitriolic. Letters they were anonymous honest but spoke of a longstanding affair Viva was beside herself according to a study entitled sex differences ince's in attitudes toward partner infidelity by researchers Michael J. Tag Ler and Heather M. Jeffers men tend to become more upset if a significant ignificant others infidelity is primarily sexual rather than emotional however women consider emotional infidelity in addition to sex as a much much greater betrayal than sex alone when both Viva and Linda learned that Sam was involved with another woman they were distraught Viva Begged Sam to limit contact with Linda. And Sam vowed he would but just a few weeks later on November eleventh nineteen. Oh three he did just the opposite he married her four days later Sam not only he revealed to Viva that he had married Linda but he also claimed that their own marriage was never legitimate. There was no record of their union in Minnesota likely because he was married under the false name hargrave but viva wasn't going down without a fight viva and her senator father other filed bigamy charges against Sam. The trial captivated all of Minneapolis. The story was ripe for drama. Aw a scandalous love triangle. In which a female doctor and the daughter of a state senator fought over there right to be married to a con ban. It almost felt like fiction. Headlines read neither will give up hazard and hundreds gathered in the courtroom as Linda a and Viva argued over. Who was legally married to Sam? Linda claimed she paid over ten thousand dollars to help Sam with his defense but no matter how hard Linda fought the case. The letters exchanged between Viva and Sam convinced the jury that the pair were in fact married married when Sam and Lindo wed on February ninth nineteen o four. The court sentenced Sam to two years in prison for bigamy during his time in jail. Viva stood by Sam side and he by hers it appeared. He fell back doc in love with her. However Sam's history of financial motivations and considerable debt may imply otherwise diva had just conveniently? Can you received an inheritance from an uncle and was working on procuring. A five thousand dollar appeal bond for her husband. Linda was left heartbroken once again. She declared to the press. If Mr Hazard has chosen to state that he would marry the Iowa girl when released from prison I have at least done what I could to fulfill my marriage vows to love honor and cherish but shortly. After her Sam's released from jail he experienced yet another change of heart. He returned to Linda side and the two began running Linda's his practice together. Linda was elated and apparently showed no. Ill will toward Sam for abandoning her for Vivo. While in prison instead instead she was determined to give their life together a fresh start in nineteen. Oh six they moved to Washington state seemingly to escape their sordid reputation in Minnesota there. Linda got to work once again. She operated her practice out of her apartment without without a full staff all the while writing her first book in Nineteen. Oh eight forty year old. Linda published fasting for the cure of disease. These her writings laid the groundwork for her fasting program as well as key pieces of what would later become her legal defense. For instance she the explained death in the fast never results from deprivation of food but is the inevitable consequence of vitality sapped to the last degree three by organic imperfection. This was an explanation that Linda seemingly established after Gertrude. Young's murder years years later. Linda would consistently attribute her victims cause of death to whatever pre existing condition. They'd complained of before entering treatment in in another passage. Linda laid out a series of beliefs that exemplify her disdain and blatant rejection of traditional medical practices she wrote professional dicta assert that permanent injury will result from the continued use of the Anima and that the germ is the cause of disease. Each of with these opinions is dogmatically denied and its opposite declared to be the truth. Linda's book lured even more patients to her practice us. She advertised fasting for the cure of disease in newspapers across the country and soon followers of alternative medicine nationwide wrote in to obtain her advice but as her popularity rose so did her murderous potential. Coming up we'll see how to wealthy British Sisters Clare and Dorothea Williamson discovered. The doctors deadly fasting program now back to the story in nineteen. Oh eight forty year. Old Linda burr field moved to Washington with her new new husband. Sam Hazard there. They expanded her practice and she wrote her first book and soon enough. It's writings lured Linda's next to victims in her grasp thirty four year. Old Claire and thirty eight year old door. Theo Williamson Claire on Dorothea who also went by. Dora experienced death early in their lives by the time the pair reached adulthood. They had lost their father. Their mother and two sisters Clarin. Dora were worth millions. Not only did they have cash assets but also landholdings in Canada Canada the US England and Australia. They spent much of their time traveling around the world visiting there many properties and although well educated the two sisters but particularly Claire had a childish naivety about them catered to their whole lives. The women had little real world experience. This made them exceptionally susceptible to the likes of Dr Linda. BURR field hazard on top of their ingenuousness clarin. Dora experienced a variety of minor ailments during their lives. Claire was diagnosed with dropped uterus which a doctor told her was affecting her spine and inflaming her reproductive organs previously. She suffered from a sensitive stomach that she she believed to be brought on by nervous exhaustion. Claire attributed her illness to what she deemed the circumstances of her birth. Clair's is father was injured while serving in India and Clair's mother worried terribly about him throughout her pregnancy. Only two months after Clare was born. Her her father passed away according to Cambridge University. Press early traumatic. Experiences can affect a child's response to stress and ED increase anxiety disorders termed bio behavioral synchrony. A mother's trauma can affect the way. A child copes with difficulties for the rest of their lives. Claire may have absorbed her mother's worry during her time as a baby which may have manifested in psychosomatic symptoms throughout throughout much of her childhood. Claire was afflicted with mostly undiagnosed medical issues. Some of these illnesses may have been physical displays of the pain. She felt old from absorbing her mother stressed so early in life because Claire often experienced stomach issues as a child. Doctors advised her to arrest often as a result. Claire spent much of her earliest years in bed later. Claire Remembered being incredibly stressed as a child she described being very nervous and constantly crying. Dora also experienced her own ailments. She claimed she suffered from acute romatically pains and swollen glands however a cousin of the two sisters once claimed being rich is the cause of all their problems. Claire Clarin Dorothea are ill because they can afford to be ill and though we don't know whether the sisters suffered from true debilitating the illnesses or twin cases of hypochondria. One thing is for certain they spared no expense on any treatment. They believed may cure. Sure them the sisters sought out many forms of alternative medicine for instance. They entered a water therapy program in Riverside California they were. They drank gallons of water at a time. In order to flush their systems. These sessions didn't make much of a difference however and Claire felt the doctor's suggestions weren't helping her dropped uterus in another treatment. The physician advised Claire to put boric acid and glycerin soaked soaked cotton batting inside her vagina for three days a week but Claire was disappointed with the outcome. The treatment only caused her more more pain disheartened. She searched for her next possible cure. She found an ad for Linda's book. Fasting for the cure of disease in a local California newspaper Clara felt as though she looked everywhere for answers and only been disappointed again and again but when she discovered discovered Linda's add it was everything she was looking for new hope so on September Second Nineteen Tam Ham. This sisters mail a dollar twenty five cents to request a copy almost thirty five dollars today when they finally received the book one passage in particular captivated them Linda wrote it should not require an exhaustive argument to establish the fact that disease. He's has its origin in impaired digestion. The only disease is impure blood and its sole cause impaired digestion. Shen the Williamson Sisters. Were entirely convinced. Finally they had found the cure they'd been looking for. They wrote to Linda immediately mmediately as they corresponded with Dr Linda. Dora and Claire grew more and more excited and after several letters Linda had convinced. It's the pair. Her fasting treatment would entirely cure them of all their ailments. They were elated. The the sisters decided they would visit Linda at her new sanitarium in. Oh Lalla Washington. She advertised it as a sort of countryside. Retreat however her. Linda regretfully inform them that the sanitarium wouldn't be ready until January. Nineteen eleven in the meantime however she he invited them to Seattle where she was based to begin their regimen before moving to the Ola Facility Clarin Dora jumped on the invitation listen. They told their family who disapproved of alternative medicine that they were headed to Canada. Claire wrote to Dr Linda to express her excitement. Meant she said I would gladly stop eating anything as I get constant indigestion so I'm counting the days until we arrive in Seattle and I hi can eliminate this matter collected me when the sisters arrived in Washington State. They met Linda at her office where they were glad to find a confident. That woman with an answer to all of their questions like everyone who met Linda. The sisters saw a magnetism in her. That made them trust her instantly gently. They couldn't wait to begin. Linda taught the sisters how to create a vegetable broth by boiling tomatoes. In warm water. This would be one of the few foods they could consume. Every day. Linda explained she would come to their apartment to Administer Osteopathic Pathak massages and animas. The sisters didn't seem to have misgivings about the bizarre process in their minds. The extreme treatment promised promised dramatic results and they were all too anxious to see them but after just the first week of fasting clarin. Dora's is hopeful dispositions faded with their strength they were growing weaker by the day and soon they found that the simplest things were exhausting zoster. The sisters frequently fainted one day door heard Claire Fall in the next room but was too weak herself to get up and help her her but despite their extreme fatigue Linda still pushed them to continue treatment to guarantee the sisters could take Enna's long past the point they lost their strength. Linda stretched canvas over the bathtub to support them when they were too weak to support themselves. CBS Linda had the sisters lay on the canvas as she administered the animas which were painful and sometimes caused fainting spells but she would would insist we must eliminate the poisons dear girls as the sisters fast continued. Mary fields a neighbor. Who lived in a Jason Department often heard the two women moaning through the walls over the weeks as fields observed? Claire and Dora lose significant in amounts of weight. She grew increasingly worried when nurse. Nellie Sherman who worked for Linda. Help the ailing sisters take their daily walks down on the hall. Fields took note of Dora and Clair's physical states. She recalled Claire became so weak she could hardly walk. Even been with. Miss Sherman's assistance. She would assist herself by placing her hand against the wall as a child walking the last time I I saw her in the hall it was very distressing to me to talk to her. She was so thin. It wasn't long until another neighbor Clara. Corrigan took notice of the starving girls what she saw disturbed her deeply. When cleric came for a neighborly visit Linda was administering Claire One of her prescribed osteopathic massages Clara observed? Dr Linda slamming her fists. Against Clair's emaciated thighs is back stomach and forehead. As Claire Groaned through. The treatment. Clara commented to Linda that the needing seemed you too intense but the doctor quickly retorted that on the contrary the seemingly brutal massage served to promote circulation. Feeling worried for the sisters Clara later returned when she was sure Linda had left when she offered to give Claire a sponge bath. She noticed bruises all over her body. Dora's physical condition wasn't as dire as clair's but mentally she was far worse. Dora couldn't converse with her sister. She could only rise periodically for a sip of orange juice. The sole sustenance. What's Linda allowed her to consume? It's unclear if Linda treated all of her patients with the same level of attention that she devoted to the Williamson sisters. There's but her. Strict regimen made Claire. Andorra feel as if the doctor had taken a special interest in their case. This was certainly true though. It wasn't the sisters wellbeing. Linda was concerned with as much as their wealth a few weeks into their treatment and when the Williamson's sisters grew so weak they could barely walk or think straight. Linda started enquiring into their finances. Linda eventually eventually offered to keep their valuables in safe in her office. At the time neither clear nor Dora saw anything wrong with Dr Hazards offer for but of course as both of them were almost consistently delirious they were in no state of mind to make that judgment so the pair handed handed over there expensive jewelry as well as their deeds to land in Vancouver content in the knowledge that they're trusted doctor would keep with them safe by March of nineteen eleven over a month. After the sisters began their treatment their condition became came so dire that even nurse Nellie. Sherman grew concerned when Claire became especially ill Nellie called Dr Augusta brewer. An osteopathic doctor in Seattle who had treated Clare Spine before she'd seen Linda by the time. Sherman contacted Dr Brewer. Claire had been fasting asking for over thirty days and Dora for over forty four weeks. The sisters had consumed nothing but vegetable broth and orange juice. Dr Brewer urged nurse Sherman to feed the girls more sustenance but it was no use. Sherman explained that Doran unclear wouldn't eat anything more than what Linda recommended as the days stretched on Nellie Sherman's conscience only grew through heavier soon. She also confided in Dorothea Keck a cashier at the local grocery store where she shopped for the ingredients to the sisters prescribed vegetable broths. According to Greg Olson author of starvation heights nurse. Sherman told CAC that she regretted working under Linda. She told her if I knew what I was. Undertaking with the Williamson Girls. I would never take another case like it. It's not worth it Though Nellie Sherman nearly reached a breaking point even after reaching out to both Dr Brewer and DOROTHEA CAC she would continue to stay loyal to Dr Hazard. This obedience in the light of an immoral act may seem baffling but it's a very very prevalent phenomenon of human behavior philosopher. Hana aren't calls this. The banality of evil aren't explains that even the normal people can commit wicked crimes without questioning their actions simply because someone in a position of power has ordered them to do so. Oh and in the case of nurse Nellie Sherman. There's no doubt that Linda's power and charm tightened its grip on her loyalty. Linda was Sherman's Sherman's employer entirely responsible for her livelihood. It's not surprising. She stayed with the doctor despite the horrors she witnessed every day. Hey she most likely felt as if she had no choice. In April of nineteen eleven four months months into the Williamson sisters fasting regimen. The pair was transferred to Linda's medical sanitarium in Ola. Despite the fact that it remained unfinished gnashed and without electricity forty three year old. Linda deemed it sufficient for her eager patients to the sisters. Linda was simply fulfilling her promise but Linda had more nefarious reasons to bring the two women to Allala so soon out in the remote coastal town. Linda could further seclude the sisters. There were no curious. NEIGHBORS IN OLA and further isolation meant more dramatic communication and the weaker they got the closer Linda got to their inheritance in March of nineteen scene eleven a pair of ambulances arrived to take the incredibly frail Claire and Dora upstate where they would continue their treatments with Linda. The sisters neighbor Mary fields came to say goodbye. She estimated Clair's weight at around seventy pounds. andoras wait at slightly. The more Mary stood next to Dr Hazard who in her white coat promised the girls a peaceful transition after their arrival at the Sanitarium Mariam but the Hazard Institute of Natural Therapeutics was a far cry from the Paradise. Dr Linda had promised soon the sisters would be introduced to a whole new host of horrors in a living hell on earth starvation heights. Thanks again for tuning into female criminals. We'll be back next week. With part two of Linda Burr field hazards story. Story will follow the steady decline of the Williamson sisters health and discover the reason why Linda's Washington sanitarium was shut down forever forever for more information on Dr Linda. Burr field hazard amongst the many sources we used we found starvation heights by Greg Olsen extremely streamline helpful to our research you can find all episodes of female criminals and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only to spotify. I already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like female criminals for free from your phone bone desktop or smart speaker to stream female criminals on spotify. 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"With now is stealing signs we help you dominate any fantasy baseball league by giving you the information your opponents. Don't want you to have to sharpen your pencils. Get ready to take some notes and let's get going all right. Hey everybody welcome back to stealing signs of we're here to share with you. The secrets of winning any fantasy baseball league. At least that'd be true if we had fantasy baseball to play. God Damn it in uncharted territory. Right now aren't we guys? I mean this is. This is crazy so with me. We have Mikey the Greek Mikey. How're you doing doing good board doing good though will we have? We have just in the pseudo scout down in Arizona. How you doing Justin am doing great guys. And we have swagger swagger who slammed his coffee trying to make sure that he stays awake for this podcast. Wh WHAT'S FELLAS. Get to see a good to see you too I'm the mechanic here in the Pacific northwest. And we're doing this remotely. It's not because of the corona virus but the virus is definitely fucked up every other part of our lives. We've had strikes in las parts of the season in the past but this was so sudden out of nowhere. It's all at once. Yeah it was. It was crazy. It was like It seemed like it was happening in slow motion and in double speed at the same time. I don't know how to explain it. I didn't know what fighting the curve meant until a few days ago you get it. It's math you know. We don't have a huge number of people getting infected. We don't want that so you know. We don't want the hospitals being overwhelmed so it really does mean no baseball at least for now I you know I I gotta believe that anyone listening to this podcast this is a big disruption and and. I'm seriously wondering what the fuck do I do with my time? Now I mean this is. This is an annual twenty five year tradition. That is now not in my life. Mike is hitting you the same way to me. I don't know what I'm doing right now. I'm bored very boring. Yeah Folks I. I would like an it for Mikey to The only thing I can really compare it to is is my divorces that that you're you're just dedicated to something for that much of your life and then all the sudden it's gone. I can see where Mikey's have a hard time with this is an ESPN junkie. You know above and beyond us which you know. We're geeked enough to to have a podcast. And and Mike is the king so I could see him having some some withdrawals. Now good what is the? Pin Posting right. Now is nothing. I mean. They're talking about how they cancelled everything. I mean they couple more days. Yeah Yeah there are stories about the fact that we don't have sports that's what they're talking about. That's going to run out quick. I I know they like baseball. Did talk about you know playing without fans at some point and obviously that would be weird. Obviously they decided against it. I do believe the Houston. Astros voted for it though. Nice I think I read something about Trevor Bauer. Wanting to put together a sandlot team with a few guys and Maybe streaming that benefits going to the hourly workers at the stadiums. I think that's a great idea. You know it's cool to see baseball getting involved with that after Some NBA players of proposed dedicating some of their salary to hourly workers. And now I'm just waiting for the multi-billionaire owners to step up for something. I have known Mikey for parts of three decades and I have never been in the same room with Mikey that ESPN or some sort of sports is not on. And I'm worried about you man. Like what the fuck are you going to do? What are you doing with your time? Now I'm really worried. I was thinking that I'd be watching the BR- The brackets right now. Check it out a little spring training. Yeah maybe a little hockey. They took hockey. I you're still in denial. You're telling me all this stuff you would be doing but like what are you doing man. He's thinking about what he would be during. Yeah I've lost a lot of that that ridiculous show on MTV. I think I've seen every episode the last couple of days. I'm just sitting there watching it. I watched the two Thousand Fifteen College Basketball Championship. I watched Michigan State beat Michigan yesterday. In Two Thousand Nineteen. That was one of the gets. Evs gave us yes ooh is this like ESPN classic. No this is one of the gifts of. Cbs gave us yesterday to replace. Got The games. The Michigan Michigan State from two thousand nineteen game last year I know. Mlb has a list of the most classic game and in each team's history and a link to go watch it so you can actually go back and And Watch your teams Most historic game so to speak the braves. Mikey is the ninety five world series game six. Yeah there's a lot of years though. We are living in the golden age of content. Not only is sports everywhere but there is so much good television out there. Mikey so I'm assuming that you've seen breaking bad. Game of thrones lost. All those are done right so we wanna go a little deeper you. You've seen those. I've never seen them now by the breaking bad is about some math. And I know that. Getting the thrones you know like dragons and sometimes some nudity. I don't think might keep watch regular TV since the Cosby Show. Cheers were on. I didn't Walk Scott neither way we all wasp. I watched modern family. I like that show there you go. There's something I used to watch for. Big Big Bang theory. I used to watch that Pawn Stars. Okay all right so there's something there but so you have not seen breaking bad. Never you've seen the Sopranos. I have seen the Sopranos. Okay all right but not like I've always seen like a couple of episodes. I've never sat down an actress. Who I'm GonNa Watch the broncos. Just been some. That was pick him out of a lineup yet. And I think what we need to do is we need to create a playlist of net flicks shows. Hbo Shows Things that can keep. Mikey occupied again. So that I'm a little less worried about Mikey. Degree I'm concern was that you had me watching Jack. You might be a got him three even maybe even four seasons into the League so he is He is the league okay. Can we go up on Hulu? Go well that's a. That's table stakes. Yes do you identify with any of those characters? Mikey I like Taco okay. So he's on he's on the League. Okay that's a nice little gateway show. Yeah Yeah but I mean. Where do we go from here? You know what I like a good show everybody out there. The LEGO MASTERS. Show where people build the LEGOS. And he's laughing now but it's like one of the highest rated shows. It's up there with mass singer. It's a really great show. It's for the people building. Legos like different designs. And then they get them destroyed and they have to see who's the strongest and cool. That actually sounds really cool. It really does. It is cool. Check it out. It's like adult versus kids who can make the The dolts versus adults. Some of them are professional. Lego builders pretty crazy all right so it's a bunch of people that are Vying for a opportunity to work Lego land. So that's the Injury Answer Ladies and gentlemen. That's what that is what our future holds for us without sports is watching adults built. Shit out of legos. I think I'd rather play Legos than watch the crap that's on anyway. I used to love legos and Lincoln logs so I was just going to say the Lincoln log shows coming out in fall during it. Maybe light bright love. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens coming at twenty twenty one bright in the party years back in the day. Amazing think about it. Yeah yeah these. Trying Times are going. Back to childhood toys And bigger shows but I love it. Oh my God I I I was thinking about. What kind of good shows that are out right? Now are out over the last five or seven years. I was thinking about lack mayor. Stranger things heard of Alan Blacklists. Oh my gosh. Ozark burst season. True Detective Nice Goliath. You're you turn me under the grapes. Grow Ozark Ozark. Great Show lost lost. Mikey I'm glad at sea off about any budget on. I was watching sports. Yes baking pissed off if you if you're GONNA get deep into if this season is over for a while I mean or or suspended awhile then it might be a good thing to get into some of those endless shows. They could just keep keep going on. Yeah I don't know about you guys but I plan on simulating the League. The season live On The show MLB this show Going to take the video game and allow it to play the Games out I'm going to write the stats down and I'm GONNA pretend like I'm kicking you guys as as because let's be honest here. I don't watch most of the fucking games anyway right. It's a fucking fake game about a real game. So what's the difference between that and a fake game about a fake game about a real game? You know what I mean. Kris Bryant hits home run. Kris Bryant hits a home run so I'm GonNA continue my my fantasy season. Virtually through Mlb The show So if you guys are interested as to how badly I kick your ass through the year let me know and I can keep track for you as well. Yeah I'm not against that at all at least will start getting some lake action. And looking at stats accumulating What could they be interesting with? Simulating it though is Our streaky players going to have that aspect in their game in simulation. Like is Justin Upton GonNa to have a bad ass first month of the season and then like half half a Hall of Fame Caliber August. And then the rest is. Mediocre is going to be part of the simulation right right. Jimenez going to continue to improve as expected as opposed to just ride those stats out for the season. Obviously yeah all that comes into play. But what's the fucking alternative? Well I would say that. I think that if Major League baseball came out and said they were going to do what you're wanted to do and everybody knew that that was the official. GonNa follow then. Baseball could continue. Major League. Baseball wouldn't have to pay player stimulate the host. He's half the people that play fantasy. Don't watch the Games anyway. They just look up the stats. The other guys did. We'll have our own website where we run the Games every day on on the playstation. We'll put up the stats on the page every day. Whoever wants to play with US comply with us? We'll run a whole fucking. We'll run the whole season if have to it's interesting. I was Major League Baseball do that. Everybody would follow. We all be on the same template but it's a great idea major league baseball combat from. I say we do that. It can be customized. The teams on that game already have team also Tim O. You can You probably you probably go into some kind of a fantasy setting correct and you were my t- played your team but what I'm talking about is simply playing out the MLB schedule. The play on on day one of the MLB schedule play simulate day one of the MLB schedule. Bellinger does for the dodgers. Tim gets no he doesn't anymore and so on and so forth. Yeah so you could do either situation absolutely but yeah what I'm talking about is is just pretending like there's a season uses more realistic. I like that route you could non platoon your platoon guys and make them good. You'll have to dear whip they. You'll have to deal with the the simulations right. There's there's you know I would assume there's going to be injuries. I'm going to assume geyser it. Oh so you're going to change our lineup. Based on what the simulation is saying happening which again who knows. Maybe we're in the matrix anyway and we're already doing that so we might as well just do it anyway. A simulation inside a simulation inside a simulation I love it. Yeah Life Right Ave the sports book Of course you will wow. I think that is a great idea. I think we should definitely do it for sure. The only thing is I drafted my team with players that I think will outperform the estimates. Right so I'm a little worried that you know what I think might happen in real life isn't necessarily going to happen based on stats and especially a lot of the guys. I have don't have a lot of history of stats. It's going to be interesting to see how sophisticated this engine is. Yeah yeah if it right. That's what I say right is able to bring a guy a long throughout the year as opposed to just this is how good he is in. That's how good he's going to be for the duration of the season. Or as just in you know put the streaks. That's obviously a big thing in baseball. I would assume I mean. They're pretty fucking good at their ship by now. I would assume that they're capable of building that in in some fashion you get a rating and your player will have a rating and that'll be his rating for the year. It's not like he's going to go from a seventy five to eighty seven because you think he's going to be better. He's going to be a seventy five year until the next game comes out. Yes yeah I don't like that guys that are going to be seventy five eighty seven but not seventy seven and it's good for for the old from e back view. There's yeah yeah so yeah I well. Espn did an article Where they simulated the next ten years so they said what are we going to do and they did the MLB the slow show and they simulated it and you know swag? I know I know. I'm always picking on Bryce Harper and I actually think bryce Harper was gonNA have a career year This year maybe not now but one of the things in the article is that He was horrible over the next ten years in. Mlb The show ended his career in double a reading. It was it was it was particularly. It was sad it was like they kind of picked him out as a guy that you know it really just never performed and rude was. Yeah that's A. That's a strange from grace. It's definitely worth something noting former Rookie of the year. Mvp now somehow gets demoted to AA. It is long time. He was probably batting two fifty four down there too. It was. It was making thirty four billion dollars in double A. How about that good for him? Good for him. I'll send the article two guys. If I remember correctly I thought the Phillies were the world series in two thousand and twenty one. Is it not did it? Just fall off after that you read the article. I'm just saying maybe maybe it's not breeding there but they made it there because Harper got sent down. Yeah Oh no no. He did but he doesn't have a good year the MLB. The show does not like obviously right. I don't want to agree with that but I mean statistically if you were trying to find that person I guess it's not a horrible choice. You're all things considered. I don't expect it to be the case but much money to go down to double A. Oh Yeah Yeah you're right. They're not going to send him no way now recovering from an downfall. But I don't expect it neither. Do I remember last year? A kind of read it off handed. Now it's it seems important but There was a site that ran a hundred thousand baseball seasons last year. So basically they took the team's last year Ran The season one hundred thousand times and then looked at all the different seasons. And then pulled out these weird anomalies. That would happen. Think last year there was no it was it was a thousand seasons. I'm sorry not one hundred thousand. That's yeah that's right so a thousand seasons and one of those seasons. I think it was like nine ninety six or something like that. The Orioles won like a hundred and thirty five games or something like that but it is weird. How kind of statistics? Something's some funky. Things can happen in. Baseball has definitely sport where weird things can happen. Yeah I was GONNA say. It's more realistic in baseball than probably any other sport. I right there's more Unpredictability in my. Yes from you know who is supposed to be the best. And there's always one or two teams that nobody expected shit from the beginning of the season that ends up making a run towards the end. So it's Yeah I mean if ever. There was a sport that lent itself to simulation baseball is I think okay. I think we need to start advertising. That we get that out there people following it and that's right. It was kind of a weird week though. I mean if you think about what happened over the last seven days in ten years ago I tried to explain to you what happened over the last seven days. No one would believe me. It was an epic crash. You're right I feel like The last week you saw the market crash and then things started getting Kinda real at work. And Gosh two days ago at work was big meetings. You know you'll all of these Sports they're getting postponed and cancelled. So you're right semi I don't know if I can think of a a national situation where it just hit so many different facets of everything that we're involved in I mean it was. It was hyper speed over the past week. Every like everything was affected grocery stores were feeling it. I don't know man you'd think the sky was falling. It might be. Yeah well or that you know some. There's some magic value to toilet paper one of those two things. I don't know it was crazy. Yeah yeah emergency in bar. Soap somehow doesn't seem to sell. I don't know what appear. Al And toilet paper have to boost your immune immune system info. I guess placebos work to some of our listeners. Not Old enough to Remember this but the only other time I can recall was be would be the week after nine. Eleven Yeah I do remember. You know there wasn't there weren't any planes in the sky. There were no sporting events for a few days but then that got back pretty quick. This is this seems very different to me. You know we you know. Are they going to play the Olympics? Are they You know I mean all sports are impacted and affected. We don't know when the when they're gonNA start back up. We we have no idea what I mean. I'm a Bruins Fan and in hockey and we're having a great season but now I don't even know are we is the season done you know. How do you start back up? You know these guys were in peak form. Whoever was a champion last year of your season doesn't begin again? You're the champion again. This intent which is worse because we lost in the Stanley Cup last year. And I think we have a better team this year. So that's Thanks Corona virus. That's a that's a real fucking. Jesus the College Basketball Championship of last year will be the champion for two thousand nine hundred nine and two thousand twenty four shore because there's absolutely no tournament right away it's GonNa go. I'll just leave it. Empty kind of like Nineteen ninety-four in baseball. You know it'll end up being a trivia question who won the world series in Nineteen ninety-four who won the world series in twenty twenty. No-one gotta be. You gotTa beat the Champ to be the champ. Weird should happen so apparently the Baltimore Orioles have a one in one thousand shouted doing that. That's right that's right well. Speaking of the Orioles I remember I saw game last year by the EARLS or a couple years ago when there were riots in Baltimore and there was a major league game played with no crowd and it was so eerie and strain and and really recognizing how much the crowds are part of live sporting events. And even though I can watch most almost all the sports I- consumers on TV. I can't imagine it without a crowd there and then I don't know as an athlete I mean. The last time I was even considered an athlete was probably sophomore year. High School. I I was aware of the energy of the crowd. So what do you think about professional sports like hockey like baseball? Being played for television without any fans in the crowd there have been no homefield advantage. There'd be no momentum like when you you know if you're coming from behind and and the crowd starts to get behind you and you know he more cheer an MVP. It's all in all. The different. Sports crowd gets behind you. And that's momentum. Builds in the other team starts to doubt themselves without the crowd the other teams. There's no momentum at all kind of crazy like I don't know if you guys had no but there's a lot of late night. Tv shows that tried one or two shows without a crowd. And now they're just not gonNA do it anymore. Okay yes same. Same type of thing. They're tired of nobody laughing at their jokes that's all. They do is make punchline jokes and there's nobody to laugh there and it's like I know for a fact that Jimmy found said he's not GonNa do. It can't do it you know. It's an interesting perspective on the homefield advantage thing because I was questioned. How much the The fans make a difference in certain sports. I think baseball provides the most true form of home field advantage versus the other three in the top four because an ice rink a football field and a basketball court. The dimensions on everything are the same. A hundred yards in Denver is a hundred yards and Phoenix in Miami. It's a ten foot hoop in New York and La But in baseball you have Short Porch and right New York or you have Maybe the shorter one and left in. Houston you have all of that foul territory in Oakland. I think that the various dimensions of Home Parks in baseball Lends it to baseball. Actually having the only true homefield advantage versus the other sports in Football. You have to hear a snap count though. That's GonNa you know your game depends on the snap. Now all your offense to here and if the crowds really loud I think that can affect it more but in baseball I mean say hey I heard you were cheating last year and get into their head mentally in football. They're not gonNA hear you. What you say Kind of two different things but in football that affects the snap count. That's the game baseball. You can do hand signals. You know the stuff but all you can't do that because the whole line here the snap out. Yeah I think I think what he's saying if I correct me if I'm wrong but but If you remove the crowd from all the Games baseball still lends itself to a home field advantage because of those things which I that does kind of make sense right. I you know all of it I think and again it would be weird. It would be different. It wouldn't be the same but it's definitely doable. Right you go out there you throw the ball and you hit the ball and you catch the ball and you keep score and so I kind of went back and forth when I did hear that. Obviously it'd be weird but would I rather not have it at all? I don't know I'd much rather have it. So what would you do to fill the energy so if I'm watching on? Tv? The crowd the ambiance. The crowd noise. That's all part of the entertainment. So now that's not gonna be there. What would you do? There's only so much you can do right first of all. They've already started doing it a little bit more and I think The the game that Justin was talking about That the The what's his name He was gonNA make up all the players so that maybe number one is is everybody gets dot. Maybe you know what I mean and you kind of flip back and forth and now it becomes different game as far as producing it. Because now you're looking for. Who's saying the funny? The cool the entertaining. Maybe you're talking to him again. Like they are doing now in the spring a little bit more of that kind of stuff. The the fact of the matter is that the crowd is white noise for us as you know watching it on television or it's there we know it's there and if you took it away we would definitely know it's gone but it's white noise for us I think also in baseball. I think it's more white noise for the players than any other sport to take and both what both of these gentlemen just said in football when you are offense in urine somebody else's stadium that's making F- difference But these guys when you know when they go up to bat it just seems like they're able to shed whatever else is going on around them and in many situations So like I said I think it would affect the game less than the other sports I think it would be easier to do. And and maybe that's just because baseball's a little less exciting but I do think it's doable. Homefield advantage that has to do with the crowd. It also has to do with the fact that comfort ability being able to sleep in your own house rather than sleeping in a hotel. That's different. The crowd makes a difference for home field advantage. But that's not the only things that make up a home field advantage home field advantage in her home. You're more than the other teams sure. So how does this play out for fantasy right? So we're talking about it now. There's this is delay and this is a you know it's Kinda weird you. Mlb said that players can leave. They can go home be with their families. They can stay at spring training. But what does this mean you know? We were so used to spring training. You get in there you gear up. There's there's an ebb and flow to spring training. And then you get ready for the season now that we've stopped it even for a couple of weeks. What does that mean? Because you know you've gotTA stretch arms out again or they do and bullpen sessions. And then how does this play out to you know? The injuries were thinking about people who are set to draft this weekend. How do you factor that in? The one thing is definitely going to happen and I was talking to Jack about the other day is that the starting pitchers are not going to be going long right away. When baseball starts your guys that would normally be thrown eight. Nine innings are not going to be doing that for the lease the first couple of weeks. Because they're not gonNA take that chance is just not going to be happening. They could be thrown simulated games on the side of things like that. But that's never the same thing and I just think that the starting pitching is going to be affected way more than the batting because the starting pitching not being ready is going to make the batting a lot easier. That's my till you're making the assumption that That they're gonNA they're gonNA really if they decided to start this season up again fairly quickly. They're not gonNA wait for another month for these pictures to get ready. And therefore that means that there's a higher chance of injury that means if you got any innings leaders on your team or your drafting innings eaters. Be careful because you're not gonna get those innings right away at the beginning of their probably could be more offense than defense early on absolutely might also make If we have a shortened season it could make some pitchers coming off of an injury such as like Lance mccullers Who might have like a one hundred and twenty inning pitch Limit on the season Shit? Maybe that's a full season this year. You know so now instead of Mccullers you know. I don't know a top fifty or sixty or so Pitcher in in your rankings. Maybe now beefed up another fifteen spots right right and then guys that are injured. Yeah now Ray Paxton right. Those are the pictures that are hurt now. Obviously they're they're in a spot Draft wise based on the fact. That season was gonNA start you. Give them another three weeks a month. Two months to get healthy then. All of a sudden change where they're going to be draft wise absolutely. So what should a commissioner do swag? Should've commissioner hold off and say we're GONNA do our draft once we know when the seasons going to start and we can actually get reassessed or do you go ahead with the draft? If I mean obviously people have already drafted than they've drafted but I know there's many many leagues that are set to draft this weekend or or next weekend or or really soon. Would you delay it for Dynasty Leagues? That are already existing. That are going I don't see really any huge reason to delay it you could. You don't have to For Redraft Leagues. Why wouldn't you wait at this point if you if you haven't done it yet? You almost mind as well wait just to gather the knowledge who the hell knows what it means. You know what I mean so again. You're drafting guys out of context. Essentially so that would I I would if I dynasty league. I don't see any reason not to bite. I don't see any reason. Not You know to to to wait either but on Redraft Leagues. I would definitely wait. Yeah that's interesting without knowing the actual start day why wouldn't you push back the The draft it would almost be the equivalent of drafting your team in January with the normal star Lake. Why would you do that right right? And what are these guys going to do? You know I know. They're not supposed to go around. racing motorcycles but but I know there are some. That don't mean bumgarner doing the Rodeo right right there. You go yeah. So what are they gonNA do over the next month and could that change their status or the season starts as well so hassle? Hold Oh I don't think that it should have any impact on the way that People draft your rankings. I don't know I threw out the idea of maybe Like the pitchers coming off of injuries. Sort of thing but as a whole I would not have it impact. Any kind of perspective agreed best players. Best Player. You know I just think hitchings involved more than batting hitching will be affected more than bad. Yeah maybe there you have it. What what do we call people that listen to stealing signs or they crooks and criminals what are they are they Winners Their winners their Astros Burlington. Yeah they're easy wiper no swiping a permanent borrowers is that what his permanently borrowing it. Maybe we'll get some feedback on what we what we should call our fans. I know we have a lot of fans out there. So Listen Fellas. Thanks for getting together. We are still going to put out episodes. We're still going to be breaking down what's happening as it unfolds. Were watching it just like you are. Our job obviously is to make sure you can make sense of it that you can make better moves and that you can win your league so bike the Greek. I hope you you stay alive reach if you need any help on any shows. Yeah just in the pseudo scout. I know you're wandering the fields. Maybe a little tear on your cheek as you're doing it but they'll it'll be back but it'll be back. Don't worry and I know for me. I just praying that are simulated league actually shows The growth of my youngsters and swagger when you make millions of dollars setting up this league. Don't forget the guys that were with you all along only of us the little guys well. I. I wouldn't say that but okay. I guess we already see how it is. All right. Gentlemen have yourselves a great day. All right wash your hands.
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"Welcome to design speaks podcasts. That helps you use uncommon. Inspirations you can overcome creative blocks and make better work. I'm your host brandy joining me is my co host julie. Hyder this week. We're going to be talking about how to get more of the kind of work you love to do. Stay tuned for that coming up later in the show. We asked mascot. Hi julie hey brandy so per usual. I think i'm just going to ask you weird question everywhere. Have a weird question for you cool. I expect nothing less. Okay good good now. The bar is not too high So have you ever eaten anything like a snack or candy or something like that that you like really loved and decided that you just. That's what you want it all the time and ate way too much of it and now you're just like over it. I've definitely done not with food. Where i'm like already eat this every day for lunch for two weeks and then after that link. I don't eat that for like another six months or more. Yeah so when. I was in when i was in high school Do jelly bellies while they do. You know the butter popcorn one. Yes i have mixed feelings on that. Most people don't have mixed feelings. Most people are like gross butter popcorn. So when i was in high school right outside the movie theater there was a jelly belly. Stand where they had all kinds that you could like get a you get a bag full so i was going to go to a movie with my cousin and she and i like thought. Let's get some candy before. And i was like you know what i'm going to like. Kill two birds with one stone and instead of getting popcorn and candy. I'm just gonna get butter poker jelly bean. I got massive butter jelly beans movie. I was so sick. Oh gosh. I was so sick so i didn't throw up or anything but the whole point of this like weird conversation is doing work that we know how to do or even sometimes like if we if we do the same thing too much. We're gonna get sick of it if it's not something that like is nourishing is good for us and jelly. Beans are not contrary to popular. Opinion is not a good idea to bag full of jelly beans. It's not fulfilling. It leaves us feeling sick. Sometimes like you know a feeling in the pit of your stomach when someone asks you to do something and you feel bad saying no but you really don't love doing it but you do it anyway and then you do just feel like icke and so we've all been there and that's what we're gonna talk about. Today is how you can do more of the work that you love more of the stuff that nourishes you and does not make you sick like a bag full of jelly beans so but first before we do that. What have you been an app to. These days julie I am planning a road trip. Right now yeah. I haven't traveled anywhere since very long time a very long time last year. Yeah grocery store. That doesn't count. Yeah i mean these days. I said yes. Go pick up groceries at the pickup. Yeah exactly Yeah so I'm to be working in south western colorado Later this month and so we're now that we have a jeep decent off roading there for a few days super excited about that and Then we're gonna head from there to california. We're both really missing the ocean. it's like it just. It happens every year like we get to a point where like we haven't seen the ocean. We have been swimming like it's yeah for those that don't now. There are notions new mexico. Not even short supply here very short. So i i do love new mexico. You know as they say we are a beach with no one just the sand. Oh you know yeah. We won't even go. I could go off on so many tangents about that. But yeah i i too i just in general and missing. Traveling like yeah. I'll take anywhere at this point. That looks different from this. So again i love it here too. But i'm very jealous. So you're gonna have to give all the pointers when you get back to like how traveling a road trip type of thing looks during like kobe dan. I'm trying to figure that out planning wise all the things we need to take. And it's just going to be different so it'll be interesting but maybe you can relate exciting documentarian and take a lot of black and white photos to like document. The journey of a road trip during a time of coronavirus. You know i have been wondering like journalists there taking pictures of all the like like how weird daily life have to stand in line to get in a grocery store and all that because i feel like i told kenny and this is a complete sidebar. And then we'll then we'll move on but I told kenny. If if i could do anything else I could easily see myself being a photojournalist. Because it's like you get to tell a story with a single picture. Yeah the postage of capturing a moment which is great. And i love that and that is totally needed but i just love this idea of creating capturing like a story in a pr black and white and gravy and like using film and going back and like developing it myself just so much fun anyways well so speaking of what has been inspiring yuli besides photographing people in masks on the street in black and white as like again. I don't plan we're wearing black and white shirts. I'm leaves with ways because fall. Yeah yeah how's this happening because we're great. Yeah so what's been inspired me lately. So it is planner shopping season for those of you who are not planners it is. It is a shopping thing like it is an ordeal. So many planners you could get out there There are literally like planners for your any graham type or oh like planners for moms planners for homeschool moms planners for small business owners like it is kind of actually an oversaturated market to be honest however i've been using the same one by inc and volt for going on this'll be my fifth year and i love the way that they put them together for the purposes that i use they are perfect. But you know you guys know. I am and i'm always looking for a better way of doing things and so just to make sure the incan volt is still good for me this year. I've been researching lots of planners. And what kind of came out for me. Inspiration wise is. I've been trying to put together. Various workbooks workbook ideas for the process for going beyond color theory for finding inspiration like things that people can like keep on their person or put in their pocket or whatever so as i was researching planners just for myself i was. I ended up taking some deep dive. Detours in to like the how we do it pages of these planners and looking at like how they think through the content on these pages and like the usability and showing like some of them lay flat and some of them have spirals and like some of them just have the staple in it. Because they're meant to be used only for like a couple of weeks and then you put it on a shelf that go into it and as somebody who's done a lot of editorial design of magazine type things and book covers. I don't i have not done like a deep dive into the interior design of like a great. So it's just been really inspiring to see the process of how that works and a little overwhelming because it has a lot and so i do have a lot to work through before i think something like that can can happen for me to be able to create but I was just really inspired by the fact that there are so many and there are. There's basically a planner for everything so it reminded of the idea that like there can be a lot of something that even that i want to do but because i'm going to do something different. It's there's still room for me in the market so that was that was inspiring encouraging. So that's cool. Yeah that was something that i've been. I've been in into right now. A g neom days move. Jason own loses a key fish. That was pays imaginaire by paulo and pan which actually means imaginary country in french. I like to bring french songs. Because i listened to a lot of french songs but this one was particularly interesting to me and fun. I definitely had to translate it. I'm not that great at french yet. But it's it's just about the magic of being with someone you love eating and holding hands Some of the lions say it's magical. We always eat with some music on only followed by our destiny. Our never ending story and i really just love the lyrical romance the quirky sound. I love all the little electronic beep symbolic that are in the song. It's really hard to sing if you don't know french but it's totally worth listening to if you like the kinda vibes that again. Let's talk about not getting sick over the work we do. Yeah Yes so we've in the past davao Knowing your target market and more recently we've talked about like how for them to find you And so now wednesday they find you like how are you gonna make sure that you're getting the kind of work that you want Instead of like. I mean honestly. Let's we've all been there where you're like paying the bills. But i don't like it. It's not filling you up creatively. Which we've talked about last season of like important to be doing work that you love. Otherwise you're gonna start feeling depleted and your. Your work isn't going to be as good So you don't want to get to that point so day a luxury though like for us. Yeah and so please for those of you out there especially like during this down economy and stuff like. Don't take this as a if you are doing work that you don't love like that's bad on you by any means like i like you said we've all been there where we're just doing the lamest the lemus stuff because we have to pay bills but you should always make sure that like there's something there for you to really grab onto to fill you up creatively. So continue sorry. I totally interrupted. You know that's a really good point to make An it's not like yet to feel shameful if you're yeah you know doing that kind of stuff like we've all been there and it's a process so we want to work towards just doing the work that you really love to do. But that doesn't mean that you know that's the ideal overnight like even now even in a before covid world like that was difficult to do. yes so we understand that we've been there but We just want to encourage you and give you some some like advice impractical steps on how you can actually possibly do this so yeah i think the first step is kind of obviously figure out what the heck you wanted to do. It's not necessarily like an easy studied. It is very obvious it is obvious. Sounds it sounds easy on the surface but like when you sit down and go okay. Well what do i like to do. I like to do lots of things. So it's almost it's almost like the purpose Ven diagram thing that. I talked about earlier in the season. Yeah except it's mainly looking at you know what you're good at and what you like to do so so what you're good at. What you like to do may translate into what you want to do. Yeah so so example of that I know it's different for designers but for me. It was an evolution through photography At one point probably eight years ago. Now i was working for someone else and so i was basically forced to do literally any kind of photography that we are hired for and my boss would take any job so i was doing corporate headshots newborn photos. Family photos weddings boudoir photo. Like literally everything product photos every hands of me. So yes so. I started to realize that like i don't really enjoy most of this stuff as much as i do working with couples so In now it's just kind of a realization. That came throught. You know over time of doing all that stuff. And i think there is also value trying all the different things because You know how do you know if you like it or not if you haven't tried it It was a good experience for sure. But i realized that couples were the ones that i liked to work with. I felt more creative. And i just enjoyed it more so When they went to start my own business. Like i decided. Okay you know once. I get to the point where i can pay the bills. I would just yeah And then i started. Interestingly enough from our last conversation. I got feedback of people saying you do really good at taking photos with the landscape in a couple in the landscape and it kind of And then also like looking at the weddings. I was doing those. Like you know what i really enjoy doing outdoor weddings. I don't really love doing ballroom weddings as much. Like also do them. But i get really excited. When a couple of says let's go take photos outside and so it was just was like an evolution of things of just getting picking up feedback from people and then just looking inward leeann. Saying this is what i like. I love that experience quite so much And yeah and then eventually. That's how i got to where i am today to being super specialized in doing adventure lieutenants The size of the wedding was also something that i like realized over time of doing like over. You know several hundred weddings. I realized like oh. I don't like big weddings. I don't like big wedding parties all that stuff. So as you're moving through your work you're gonna like pick up these things that you're like okay. I do really like this where i don't like this. I think is also important to say. You know like i have been like. Oh i really loved working on that wedding. But like i would need to identify why yes. Well what what specifically about that. Yeah exactly what part of it did. I enjoy And take it from there so it does take time like if you don't have experienced that so i think yeah you know that's kind of a precursor is go out there and get some experience and start filtering through that. Yeah and i think. I think a good chunk of our listeners. Do have the experience and the hard part is that you know what you're good at and you kind of maybe like all of it like it's you like to designed so yeah. I like to design but covers. Yes i liked to design logos but then if you really you kind of made a good point about like you didn't really like certain things and so if you take a step back and you go okay. Well what what. Actually don't i like. So maybe yeah or maybe what. Don't i love because you might like all of it. I like doing locker design. I don't love it anymore like it. It doesn't What is it marie. Kondo says like looking through your closet right. Yeah like pick something up and ask yourself. Does this spark joy yes like. It's sort of that thing. It's like okay so if you think about like all of the things that you could possibly design are create on a bookshelf and you pull one down and go okay this is. This is a book of poster design. Does this spark join me. Yes put that in key pile and so like. I don't know why i always visualized things like this because it like actually just helps me because otherwise it feels so untouchable to try and figure out what it is that you like and for me. The process was. I'm i don't have. I don't have any real connection. When i'm just doing logos which transitioned into doing like full brand packages. Yeah which transitioned into brand more brand strategy because it's like even. This isn't what i get joy out of like. I find joy in explaining to the client. Like exactly why. I did everything and why it works. And so that took me away from all of the clients that were just messaging man instagram. Saying how much for a logo rate. I actually and i just answer. I don't do logos. Because i don't like i do full brands and branch dot. Org if a logo happens to be a part of that strategy. I will gladly do a logo for you but you may not need a logo. You may need a facebook ad campaign you may need something completely different and your logo might yeah totally fine So i think yeah for earlier and earlier in the in the journey trying things is the key is the absolute key and Then looking at not only what you like. Sometimes that's easy but looking at what does not bring you. Joy i think is is really is really a good thing to do And i think also you touched on like the power of saying no like. It's okay for you to say. No i don't wanna do this And to send that work onto someone else to does. Enjoy that right. Let's totally okay. Yeah and it's it actually is better and it starts to. It starts to build more of the community over competition idea because yeah it's like if you take everything that comes your way just because you're afraid that you're not gonna get any work then you're possibly taking work away from somebody that actually might bring them a lot of joy Yeah and you're actually making your life kinda sad because you're like. Oh another like baby photo session like. I'm so tired of this as post to you know what. I know a really great family photographer that loves doing baby photos. And then everybody's happy. Yeah yeah let's make it a win for everyone instead of And also you know if you're Taking that you're not loving Like sort of inwardly grumbling as you're doing it and after you like. Why did i do this. You're not doing your best work. You're not serving that client as well as they could be served so a really is better for everyone to do that. And also is kind of empowering to to be able to say like. oh okay. i don't wanna do this. And they can say that. Sorry this let me send you somewhere else. Yes and there's so many gracious ways and we can possibly do another episode on that at some point in the future so many gracious ways to say no and you know so many gracious ways to to tell people what you do without being like no. I will not design your your stupid like the logo. Hey doing logo. i'm never at like. Why are you talking to me. Okay sorry yeah so the next thing i would say in relation to this is like once you've figured out what things you don't want to do and even if you like a rough idea so you have like three or four things that you kind of are playing with the idea of That's where like rating of comes into play because then you can start to really The idea is to show so especially for visual creators. like we are. You need to show people what you do like you can talk about it. Also and you should and that'll be the next step. And i'll let you talk a little bit more about that but when you show nothing like when i was showing more of like the actual end product logos that i was doing. I was more proud of the process in getting their like my word maps and the thought and the research and stuff. But i wasn't showing so much of that. I was more showing like. Here's the reveal of the colors in the thing and then people go. Ooh i like that. I want a logo. As soon as i started showing the process and my book covers and poster designs in the things that actually do really bring me joy. I started getting more of that kind of work. I was showing art. That i did for musicians and then i got more musician clients. Yeah i mean. We're such visual people. Like somebody's gonna go look at it and be like. Oh yeah. that's what i'm looking for ya. If you're showing. If i'm showing like the all i do is take photos because i do take photos. It's a hobby. It's not what i do like for you but if that's all i. Did people get the impression that i was a photographer. If i never showed or talked about the fact that i do design and coaching so i was there but it left me so it happened. I have a good friend who is a Wedding stationery designer in probably like five years ago. I remember her. Saying i am so tired of doing black and red invitations and burlap invitations. She's like a hate them so much. And i keep getting them and we were talking about like how you know new mexico kind of behind the times online wedding trends and so we're kind of like inadvertently blaming it on like. Oh well you know. It's just how it is here. it's this place. Yeah and then. She had the epiphany of oh. I should stop showing those in my portfolio. Just because i designed it and they did a good job doesn't mean somebody needs to see it and so she took all of that stuff out and now she's like killing it and doing exactly what she wants to do. And she's kind of a trendsetter now which is really like her thing and she finally realized. I need to be showing this stuff. That i want to be doing. And so she's like tradings in san. I like just theft came out today. I guess no man. She is setting trends at really big on pictures and doing all kinds of amazing things and like creating new niches. Everything this No noah's my friend divina okay. From funky olive. Yeah but Yeah her businesses just like blown up and completely changed directions and it all started with her realizing. I need to stop showing the stuff. I don't like to do yes. Absolutely so I guess we made a skip around a little bit actually You do need to know how to talk about what you're doing and so we'll save that for last but i want to interject right here because it feels right that What if you don't have any clients to do yes. Show the wurley great low question and that is one of the number one questions that i get from. Students from like fellow designers from even designers. That have been doing it as long as i have. It's like yeah i want to. I want to illustrate children's books. But i don't have any books. I don't have any clients. I don't work for a publisher. There's no there's no one that does that around here new mexico doesn't have jobs etcetera etcetera etcetera. And it's like okay. Well who's stopping you from doing something of your own. Yeah and so. It's it's sort of like a weird mental like leap. You have to do that that you don't have to wait for it to come to you. And i think that as designers and creative professionals business owners solo preneurs entrepreneurs we are used to having to try to get people to come us before we can do something as opposed to going. I have ownership over my creative life. There's tons and tons of public domain things that you can use to make your own work. If you don't feel like you have like we'll just say children's books for example like if you don't feel like you have a story in your heart like wine you could find somebody that has a story that probably needs illustrating or you can just take one. That's illustrate your version of cinderella or pinocchio or any number of things that are just like out in the ether that you could just grab onto. Yeah if you're if you're just waiting for like this dream client with a dream project to come along. It's going to be a while. That probably never happened. Let's be on be waiting on time. Yeah when i decided that. I wanted to switch from traditional weddings to doing Adventure allotments on my website. I wasn't as savvy on all the website affect then But i put up like a things specifically for adventure weddings. And i was just like me and wise. Nobody wanting to hurt me for this while. I was still showing like photos from you. Know church weddings and weddings with A bridal party and all that kind of stuff and it wasn't till i like sat down with a mentor and she's like unia all of this out of your portfolio and you need only talking to those people otherwise those people aren't going to find you and even if they do they're going to be like oh. This isn't what i'm looking for. Because they're not seeing themselves and the kind of project that they're doing their you you can't just wait for them to like fall out of the sky in and it's your perfect dream project and not that you need to treat people like they're stupid but Donald miller calls it. I think it's like the the grunge test or something like that for for like and this is more for websites but this applies. I would say for this exact thing that we're talking about People don't want to use all their mental energy to try to figure out what it is that you do. Yeah so even if they don't even know like maybe there's there's like a woman out there that is looking for or maybe she just has like an idea for a children's book. She doesn't know what she even needs to make that happen. She just has an idea. And she comes across your account and your account is logos and website design. And you and you know they're similar situations like popping up here and there but it's it's hard to find. It's hard to find the fact that you even do deliberation. Then there's another illustrator that shows lots of different Shots of like illustrating things doesn't have to be books. But just illustrating things illustrating story type things. Which one do you think she's going to gravitate to. Yeah and you could say. Oh well i don't have all those clients. Well you do have the ability to create something that will show them what you can do. And i have fallen out of this a little bit myself. Just because i've been trying to get the coaching the coaching thing up a bit more. But i still have in the back of my mind. That when i'm ready to start doing fine client work again. I'm going to start showing more book covering music designs again. Because that's what i love like. That's what i could do yeah forever. So that's the other question. I guess i meant to say earlier is if you could do one thing like if you could just create design photograph paint whatever. It is the to do one kind of thing forever. What would that one thing be. And there's probably a hint somewhere in there as to like what you should be doing so anyways personal projects are like the best way to fill your portfolio to show people what you do and you also have the ability to just tackle topics that you love so if you want social justice in your annella straighter. You can illustrate that. If you're a lettering artist you could take that same topic for any number of creative jobs. Titles whatever and take the things that you are passionate about and show people your work and that connects back to what we talked about. When we're talking about finding your target market is putting out your values and the things you are passionate about like. That's a really great way to do it. So yeah it's a win win win when when that from office when when when when. Yeah so yet. I think that ties into talking about it when you're mentioning the grunt test because it's not just the visual grunt test. It's also like can they tell from what you're saying if you're just kind of like i'm a designer. Hire me. that's not. Yeah that's just not. It's not very persuasive for swallow not informative and people just need to like instantly. Be able to see what you do in like. What are you specifically offering to them yet. And i've i've seen i've seen way too. Many people honestly approach it. Like well. I i put out. I said that like. I'm open for business. Put out a logo design. And in my caption. i said. Here's what i like. Here's what i did and Here's my email. i'm i'm open for business like because that's really compelling that's like if you had a physical store in you put the open sign on. That's it well. If you've not done any marketing or anything like how you know maybe people are walking by are like what insists play. Yeah exactly so by talking about it. Talking about it does two things. It first and foremost helps you understand what you do and that sound. That may sound silly but when you are forced to tell somebody that has no idea what the heck you do what you do it forces you to think about it in a completely different way. Now i'm not saying that that you should always right that way because if you're talking to your ideal audience you shouldn't have to dumb down but you don't know what person might encounter you that maybe your target audience. That just doesn't have a clue about like how to talk about it like we were talking about in the seo episode. It's like well. How will they search for me. Like they don't know they may not know. What a design strategist is. They just know that. They're designed process sucks and they need help and they have creative so a great way to if you're looking for ways ways to talk about things is to start with the questions that they're gonna have in start answering those And you don't have to do it in like a boring. Faq thing like not going to click on that page like sprinkled in throughout your website put captions every once in a while like that through your social media posts like there's so much content that you can create that's going to be talking in a strategic And like all encompassing way about your jasmine says. Talk about your business without talking about your business. Yeah yeah i mean. There's just so many things so we touched on like sprinkling information about your values that people are going to connect with That has you know more to do with you as a person than like. Actually the work that you do. People still connect with that And then so obviously brand. I are really big fans of story brand. But i think an incredibly important way to present Instead of just being like i designed but covers hire me. Yeah you're used to Walk the person you're talking to you. Which is your target. Walk them through the story of them selves done. Yours is isn't about you like yes. You want to put some information out there. So they at least like know who they're potentially working with But it really is about them and if they feel like they're being heard and you're showing them like they're not problem stage right now With trying to get to the end but maybe they don't even know what the end actually looks like. If you can say. I see where you're at. I see the struggles that you're dealing with and show them like the road to get to the end and specifically with the end is not just like oh. You'll be happier here. Dream come true grab onto that like what does that specifically look like. How specifically do you help me. Tell me like yeah. I want to know any any person i've ever paid personally for whether it's like a small mentorship program or I spend i did. I actually spent some money on jasmine star lake. Not it's like a boot camp type of thing for a short bit Because i knew what i was getting going into it. It was very clear here. Like hey booboo or whatever like. I know that you feel this way but you don't have to. Here's why and after you do this. Xyz with me and this course you will feel this way about your business and it's like okay. Yeah here's my money. Take my money because yeah exactly. 'cause you're like yeah i want you get me you understand as as a female business owner where i'm at and so it was like this is an investment. It wasn't money. I just had to blow. It's not like i'm just like waiting around waiting for like. Oh we're all. I spend my money today. Like right and so think about how you would feel when you are looking for something that you need. And then think about what you offer and it doesn't have to be a course like if you are truly just looking for more illustration work in the children's books. Fear what salt. What problem do you solve for people. Maybe it's that do you like. Do you have an idea but you you. you like. Don't know how to take it from your head and put it like out visually. That's totally a problem. Because i know lots of writers that have that issue. Like i have an idea. But i don't know what to do with it so it sits there and then you are alleviating some problem by what you do as a creative. Yeah and how amazing is like feel when when somebody is like expressing that they hear you and they understand what you're going through and they're there to help you like in any facet of life clear like yes. Oh my gosh. this is what i've been waiting for. So there's a huge amount of power in that and Yeah i think the story rand way of presenting what you do is incredibly. It also takes a lot of pressure off of you because then you're not wondering link what should i be saying right Or like many of us feel very awkward like being sales And you don't have to be that way because you're not talking by yourself you're talking about the clients. Yes absolutely so. I don't remember exactly where in we record these kind of all over the place not necessarily any specific order. So if we have already recorded with eric he is my own story. Brand guide That we interview either are set to interview him later after this episode airs or we have already either way. You should probably find that in. Check it out because it is bound to be an awesome conversation A little bit more of a deep dive and yes we are fans here. I used it to completely revamp all my stuff when i shifted over to being a strategist and course creator and stuff like that so Yeah there's nothing like being paid to do the kind of work that you love and you will know like if you get sick of it. Maybe that's time to shift into something different because if you lend. That's okay too there is. There is no hard fast rule that says like well. I wasn't independent creative director for ten years. I can't move. I can't move over because people think that's all i do. You can do what you want to. I hope you guys leave this episode feeling empowered and wanting to figure out how to do more work that you really love so you can do more of it and get more clients again. That was polo and pan with pays imaginaire. You can find this song and lots of other inspiring music on our spotify playlist just search music from design speaks. Alright everybody. that's our episode for today. If you enjoy this show and want to support us become one of our exclusive patrons over at patriots dot com slash design speaks where you'll have access to some extended episodes and fun bonus. Content design speaks is produced by kenneth nathan and dakota audio production by the podcast fades. 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Ep. 11: Matt Sydal
"You'RE LISTENING TO A. PODCAST network production. Hey. It's Jesse Cage. Welcome back to another episode first match and do this week fricking jacked as we're going to get elevated with one of the most prolific high flyers of all time Matt Side L. is going to be jumping into that first match time machine before we get there though when I think what sponsors. Print House, Dot Com George Reprint House Dot com they make the first match t shirts. You want one of those just looking at the description of this podcast hit that link and you can get hooked up with your own first match t shirt if you need them for your promotional needs dude the Rat Georgia pronounce dot com they can do the screen printing embroideries, the vinyl stickers whatever you need for promotional side Georgia Print House Dot, com there your hookup get out of today a little that Jesse Cage -centia. I am visionary wrestler Matt Sidell in my first match was transcended. It's the first match podcast Hughes your host Jesse Gauge. You know my guess today as landside L. Not goes way back we'll get to that Evan Bourne one half of air boom with Kofi Kingston a wwe tag team champion, an impact, grand champion and impact exhibition champion numerous other titles held from Japan and really all around the world. He's one of the most electric high fliers in the industry welcomed the first match Matt Side L. what's up what's up? Matt. So we're going to jump in the first match time machine. We're going to go back to the beginning I. Just tell us. Where you grew up and then where your love of pro wrestling came from. Sure. Yeah. So I grew up in Saint Louis Missouri which is a pretty good wrestling town. There's a lot of passionate wrestling fans there. In fact, there were so many wrestling fans Sat Graduated High School in a one so Leading into going into high school sort of when I got really into wrestling with my neighborhood friends and because we're the kind of kids that would rather do it ourselves than watch it on TV we ended up forming our own backyard, Wrestling Federation. And then dialing up on our fourteen four modems eight set up an angel fire website and found other kids in the area it around that had other backyard federations and. We just ended up kind of create our own little backyard wrestling circuit, and that's sort of where I really began. My insane passion for wrestling consistently what was the name of Your Fed As what started out as the weather stone wrestling alliance, which is we are neighborhood was just called weather stone and I liked the local name. But by like the third season, her third year of the Fed my brothers in the neighbors they all organized and voted change the name to new revolution wrestling. Changing the game and that sort of has been my mission in wrestling since day one was the change what people think wrestling is to change the stereotypes of what people think is at any time people make an assumption about wrestling is to immediately prove them wrong. So you said that you guys were way more into just going out and doing it yourself were you watching the product at the time and if so who were you watching? Yeah, I mean I didn't have cable. So I. I watched the is that we rented from Chinooks, which is the grocery store that you can walk to Finally, we got our parents to drive us to blockbuster. So we could rent the rest of the dividend bf pay per views but. In High School I would start going over to my friend's house and that we would watch raw and WCW kind of back to back and forth at me and my brothers we love the nation domination. We Love delay was like one of our favorites on the WCW side I loved all the cruiserweights. You're also getting like e C W match is on vhs from tape trading. So that's kind of what I found out about man and tasks, and I became really obsessed with to Jiri and Tasr in super crazy Ray Mysterious Psychosis we for that that match So yeah, I loved all that kind of stuff When we were watching raw like my friends they like they would love the undertaker and I would be like, let's just change it back to the cruiserweights on debussy w you know I I knew what I liked the I always like the athletic side of wrestling end I. I really liked Lucia Lebron Japanese wrestling. So you're wrestling in the backyard you're doing that for how long are you guys doing your feds? Yeah. I mean it started out as just you know going on the Trampoline in imitating Jerry Lynn versus RV de leg drop spot and then. Talking, you know that we started graduating our own gimmicks, full shows, two dollar admission selling concessions like full operational backyard fed. I did that like. When I was sixteen I was working for my uncle We have shop where we made mailboxes in such a Lotta iron aluminum welding. And that's when I toured. Shout the first post for a my backyard wrestling ring. Michael helped me with that and so we built a pretty nice ring in the back yard that we were only. We. Only had a couple of matches before one. My brother's friend my older brother. He's like two years older. He's a little bit more mature and he thought it was a great idea just to go ear to ear just gig himself wide open like a maniac. So. They shut my parents promptly shut down the backyard fed, which is then what inspired me to join the local, the local indie they they had a training school where a paid one hundred and fifty bucks, which is basically what I charge people nowadays to train under me as paid that, and that's when I started like my professional training which. Amounted to getting my ass kicked by bidder old guy. So that was with gateway championship wrestling. Correct. First Day, you walk into training what's going through your mind and what does that compare to the reality of what happened I I was so excited because I knew there was a lot of technique that I didn't learn and I really thought there were like people who knew what they were talking about at this local level I mean what I learned, what I knew about wrestling came from like Ken Shamrock Book which included like Dojo Training and submission holds and then Mick Foley's book. You know there there was an secrets pro wrestling revealed. But yeah, you know I mean I went in there with a confidence because I had gone to a few of these indie shows and I went to a show that they had like a trainee show and I went to that and I was like a better than everybody here. At the I think that attitude did not exactly win me over with the group. I was the youngest by a few years and easy to pick on at one, hundred, twenty five pounds. But I think by like my third hitting the ropes was the biggest challenge I remember just being really tough. but I loved getting thrown around and bumped chop I didn't care outer as part of the fun. And you know by flee three or four I was whipping guys off the ropes and saying Japanese arm drag. You know and they just told me Oh do it with the left arm? Not The right? I had a full arsenal of moves. I hit the leg Larry it you know I was. Standing Shooting Star Presley goes nothing. Nothing Salah there. were. The cats they're impressed I mean again you said they whipped your ass but could you tell that they saw something new at that point? I. No. Not Really I don't think you know and I didn't see anything myself. That was that that special I just wanted it like I was crazy I was already working out probably more guaranteed where then everybody who was going there I was just I. I had a very good work ethic. So when they would teach me something in class once I went home and I work with my brothers. Hammerlock change hemlock changed Hemlock, collect change, and the kids at my school wonder why? Like I get mad if I teach him something on Monday the next Monday, they don't have it better than they did on Monday. It's like you know there's there's homework to Witton I. think that was one of the things every technique I got it was just like stowed away techniques stowed away and then. For me L- getting to know about wrestling. It was not something you could read about online. There was no. It wasn't an open book wasn't released. It was the only thing. You couldn't really research without direct experience. So I just went out and got direct experience by getting it firsthand, and then like you said, you kept going over and over and over again I trained for a little bit with de Malingco back in the late ninety s and I remember the first day I got in he gave us the big list of moves. And I remember we'd learn a couple things. I'd go back to my apartment my little efficiency with my couch was my bed everything's like right there and I couldn't sleep at night because I'm just going over these moves over and over and over and over again I am so jealous like when I when I was a kid I told my parents I I like threaten to run away from home to go traded the Malingco School. That was my dream. Dean was like an idol of mine. I. Mean I look we have a lot of similarities and so he was very inspiring to me like I had pictures of him on my wall and when I got to WWe, he was one of the most welcoming guys to me an encouraging him it became and Jamie Noble just like saviors of mine when I was there in that really boosted my. Confidence. So you've got good taste and wrestling trainers and like that's the lineage I wanNA carry on you know I wanna be a in addition to performing I like handing down the knowledge because I I get mine the hard way. So so you train if I read this, right, you train for about three months before you got an opportunity to have that first real match Zach correct. Name of this is I it's first match because you just talk about the history that first match and stuff like, yeah, I mean. There's there's a million wrestling podcast, right you can hear about raw or smackdown or dynamite, or whatever, and the reviews shows and just random interviews but just kind of wanted to focus more on on the beginning stuff that it's an origin story and origin story guy. So I like to go back to the very beginning of this kind of walk up through training. The first match than you know there's a lot that goes on in between there that I don't think ever really gets talked about you. At this time. I was really lucky. I had a pretty supportive family my parents like a allowed me to drive into a really rough part of town to to go train at this I. It was basically next to Ferguson. I'm sure you've heard of that So where we were training was like it's the tough part touted I went there and I mean I spent my life there every second I wasn't at the gym or at school or working boom boom and you know I? I just was very lucky that these guys had a pretty good schedule. So at at Seventeen, they get me licensed to be a pro wrestler Missouri and at that point on every Friday and Saturday not a couple not here there every Friday Saturday, I was wrestling I was having this. These guys would just power me boom scooby backup stack powerball Mcginn scooped me back DVD they run on my head every Friday Saturday I didn't care. I got right back up You know obviously selling, but it was you know. We were full in and I mean we're training Tuesday Thursday resume, Friday Saturday. Sometimes Sundays, we would do these shows called adults ethanol only they would do him at the training center and it was just like very vile very disgusted I mean like at this first indy I've I was just A. Let's call it a a modest. You know very just had a very. A traditional midwest quiet upbringing. Ten all of a sudden there was A. Backstage at the show, it's like male exotic dancer Porn Star Lake Mead it just went from zero to one hundred. I was in the deep end and I mean I'll never forget like the little girl I had a crush on one time kid Kash came into town and you know you you know she was his then and I. It was just. It was a a lot of lessons real quick i. mean those guys really picked on me in a lot of them work. Very nice as they didn't get didn't start being nice to me again till I was in like me but you know it was a it was a good place to start because we were given free rein I mean we'd get yelled at for doing seffner matches but. I felt like the training was just like self training and we got to push our limits and I mean. No one was telling us there's a right way and a wrong way as much as they do now. Now, there's certainty with the right way in the wrong way and. We it was more of the EC mentality of like do it yourself create your own thing, and then that elite sex rather than getting given a job or getting a contract. So different mentality back then and you're so young, you're the youngest you're the first person under the age of eighteen to receive a wrestling license in Missouri that's just ended up. itself is a great achievement. Was it hard to go and get licensed or did you just go down and go hey ma'am seventeen but I want to get in here and get this done yeah. I was basically just one interview but it was the rule nobody under eighteen was getting licensed and This was probably in. October something in the. Fall and I wasn't turning eighteen till the next spring which I mean this the promoter. Clearly. Wasn't about having my interest in mind or giving me this opportunity. It was hey, who's free labor who shows up first sets up the ring sets up the chairs trains before the show dental go russell put you know just. Put on a good match expect zero dollars in return for it tear down the ring, get it all the way loaded in the trailer before he goes home you know I was a good. It was worth him going out on a limb for me because he got a lot a lot of US automate. Let's talk about the first match. Then you got the training done, you did your three months. You'RE GONNA go out. You're GonNa do this first match. Walks through that day man where is it? What are you feeling? What do you think in and then get through the match? Okay leading up to this I had done like they had a TV show we feel own cable access show and I had already done a spot where I went into just got power bomb through table. I mean what else would you do to me but then like the big match came is at aggies on Broadway downtown Saint Louis on on Broadway, which is you know main drag that runs through market and aggies is a Bingo Hall it you enter in the stairs go down. So it's kind of. Underground but. One Story. The locker room sort of had like a second storey. Yeah. That day it was Matt they let me Russell's Matte M. A.. T.. T.. Capital letters all caps my like it was like Kenta not nearly as. But yeah, it was just Matt and I wrestled Super Castaldi who was actually like the only. For All the maniacs crazies involved in my local wrestling fed, there was a guy named Pete Madden who was a good wrestler has you know a? And he had enough training to take me through a match and I was really lucky and in this first match aggies on. Broadway it's like at least three hundred people there. We've got like cattle fencing around the ring like to keep the the fans away like most places don't even have guardrails now but we had these huge cattle that were just paint spray painted. Black is a really cool setup like the perfect size building. Beer was one dollar. You know in Saint. Louis. That went a long way to draw a good crowd and so yeah couple hundred people there and I mean the the. I don't remember a lot of that day or going into it, but I can tell you like the strongest member. I have that matches like this insane I. Think I've seen the match back. So at some point I see it. But at a point in the match, the Guy Pete Man whose residents Super Castaldi he's wearing a red Gi and like a Red Hood. And So like up on the top rope, I do top run-up Bloom and then I followed up with standing shooting star press to Cadillac running into it and like as doing that I just have this full-on out of body experience where I'm like above everything watching it happen. From. Pure out of Body Lake just A very unique experience I've had a few out of body experiences in my life, but that was like one of the earliest ones and it was just one of those moments where I just I was watching myself do it and it was like this is what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm pretty sure later on I did like aside mood salt the floor all sorts of dangerous stuff is kyle floor just tile floor I used to do. You know third rogue moon salts like super crazy. Were you twist up off the A wild man is great i. mean that was just like there's this this particular like. Joy Feeling of like pure. Joy that I got from wrestling in that that matches one of those times where. There was no cost. There's is no second guessing myself there is no. Am I enough this. It was just that Zen Alphabrain state of mind where you're just in that moment and you know that was. The dragon that I continue to chase until this day. Cool that you actually get to have this moment. Of this out of body experience to go man, this is it. I'm going to be this guy this is going to be what I do or at least continue chase it. Yeah. I mean I'll. I never thought I would ever stop wrestling I mean I never thought I would be successful at it either if that makes any sense I was just doing it for fun I was just doing it because it was awesome because I wanted to be a part. Of It, because like I love the ring I, I never cared about setting it up I like putting it together. I like taking it down as good at it like I I mean if wrestling's about showing up and working hard like it reminded me of my high school wrestling. If you showed up in outworked everybody eventually you're going to work your way up and the sort of what I did. I even when I was going to go away. To. Go to college. But I, would drive back and work for Gw weekend I mean. And then I mean that alter it just kept progressing because of my persistency inconsistency. I. Guess What Were Your Friends and family saying at the time you're getting a lot of support from them, I? I wouldn't say. Port but made. Lakes. But the I mean I guess it was a lot of support not very vocal. My parents didn't encourage it. They might dad didn't not figure four was or anything like. You know had never watched a minute of wrestling and his life except for what we showed him abbot my mom would may I? You know you need gear? So my mom would help me with like working on my gear like making a pair of pants that looked like savages because that was my dream to look like as cool savage. A few scars maybe yeah but you know. Eventually I'll probably get him I. WanNa be a death match worker. Now since it's all I left is that the deal is that we're matt goes premier. Not Scared I. Mean we I. Grew up on that death match era. So you know I mean. I even though I when I, even when I went to either view mid south, who just king of the death match tournament two, thousand, three, two, thousand, four, I think I even did two, thousand, five at least three and four. But yeah that's I was into I, mean this just Wrestling was very different than it is now certainly wasn't polished and it certainly wasn't a finished product. Let's go back to again the early times going into the first match training. What random names were you coming up with actually just go back to the backyard what names the you think that you're gonNA use what was going to be a wrestling name our. Backyard wrestling you always have like three or four characters, and so because of this local indie that I started at, we kind of modeled our shows off of kind of what they were doing and we also understood that wrestling was all about stereotypical characters. So my backyard wrestling fed had like the guy from Hollywood the Texas Hill Billy, you know they'll had named Sergeant Bob Miller Hefford the Hippie. I was the gesture as one. Gimmick. Tatsu Machi was like a Ninja Gimmick I did and then Lance sidell Orlando Stereo after Lance storm in mysterious could buy. Guys. Yeah and then under their gimmicks. Do we have know it was a cavalcade of we had a guy who was a disgruntled, Male. Man. It was it was clever. We had a Cuban guy that you know. He was a stereotype of his generation. We I mean we understood that wrestling was very one dimensional generic stuff and. We, went with although there was this one backyard fed. They would rent out the YMCA for like overnight locking and just throw down mats that was like where I jumped off the basketball hoop onto. Onto, the mats like a full squawk on just onto the mat no rain just a just A. Gym Mess Yeah News Nailed the Swan by the way nail that. They would always wrestle as WWe WWF wrestler WCW Guy. So you would have to be like, okay. You're going to be TASR and you're GonNa Russell Kane you'd have to do their stuff at like My crew we just thought it was so silly like we have asked matches. Gabby. Put in a submission hold in pretend to smoke a cigarette. Not does not tell him because it was like this is just nonsense because we had our characters and you know we were going to do our our thing I always been very headstrong and just doing things my way by belief like it doesn't have to be right or wrong it's just I'm doing what? Feels good. feels. Right. At least let's just saw. I've always kind of run down that road where even in. A lot of people would? Say you know wrestling is supposed to be. A certain thing and I would just say, well, this is what it is to me and I believe it's valid. Some somebody's confidence is down I wanNA believe those people that say Oh restaurant is only a B or C and I'm I'm confident you know W, X Y and Z are better but because it's just a matter of changing the radio dial two one that's not completely controlled by one. Mono Vision. Mike Computers at ten percent I'm just gonNA grab the charger. Yes. Real quick uptakes five seconds you got. Okay get counted out or did the rest decide to stall just old total stall said. Look around. I always have to tell us how to cheat for me. This is one of my pet peeves wrestling the RAFFLE. Tell me Acog play by the rules. If you get up on the top robot going to count to five and I, I will lose my mind. Same Way if I'm out on the floor hey, I'm just started county. This is not how we do this pal. The two guys in the ring are pretending to be wrestlers. So you're GONNA pretend to be arrests you get. You're not going to be the one who's the real guy and then were like, no. Before on the outside, you figure out a way to not count us out rank you don't is GonNa be a pro. You ring that bell. You saw the bitch I swear to Christ. All Bike God like like if you're down, I'll count the three or. Place. Gosh. But then again, I kept people never kicked out so. You know what I really love about this show. I mean, there's a lot of things I really love about this show but one of the things that sticks out is the vibe of the show just sounds like a couple of cats hanging out shooting the shit's a bar restaurant talking to wrestling much like if you and I were on Saint, Pete Beach and Tampa Bay we'd go over to Boulevard Burgers. We grab ourselves Cage Burger perfect. Burger. Hand breaded chicken breast on top. Of that Bacon, Cheddar Cheese, all the fixings get some of those Sidewinder fries do just trust me when you get down to Tampa Bay, get out to Saint Pete. Beach Boulevard Burgers get that Cage Burger you will not regret it and health. I can all stop by we can shoot the shit about wrestling I was GonNa say you know a lot of that stuff? You did the names that were in there in that you wrestled against whether it be AJ styles are punk or Tyler black pre seth rollins days or Kevin Steen. Is there any match that you would say is your resume match. Oh, well, I mean without a doubt I. Mean I know for a fact, it's match against AJ styles it was. He's like the reason I have some kind of horrible low self confidence is because from the day I started doing shows when outside of DC W when I went to go find wrestling better than was in my hometown when I went to go find guys better than me I landed either way mid South and it was Chris Hero Siham punk. Nate. Webb at that time was awesome. JC Bailey. Like Dave, Praise Zach was a great mind wrestling was early and pushing women's wrestling and bringing incredible women's wrestlers like Mercedes Martinez, and at the same time as homicide low key like I said amazing. Red Alex Shelley. Claudio Cast Noli. McGinnis Samoa Joe Choosers Bryan Danielson I mean. So of course, I was like. I'm thrilled to be on these shows to be anywhere in the in the locker room with these guys and nobody was sitting there saying Oh if you don't know who won the belt, nineteen, sixty, two year that it was all about what you're doing tonight today and having these amazing matches and being there to see them live. Everybody has to watch him on everybody else watch DVD or eventually I'm sure it'll get on the network because they have every match. These were special matches like the Ted Petty Invitational is like tournament. And The year I law one of the years I lost it. I wrestled Sour Naro but the main event I think was. Aj Joe and Brian and in the best three way match, you'll ever see this is a three way match thrown together you being in the locker room seen them trying to throw something together after they've wrestled twice that night shows gone. There's sixteen matches its pushing it's after midnight before these guys go out there. They're just like scrambling to get something together and then they go out there and have. The most amazing match like I know they've got a five star match where it's like Chris, Daniels Aj Joe from TNA but this match had like it was so pure there. Three wait chain wrestling an amazing spot like monkey flip into the hurricane. Ron It was. They were the I knew these guys were the best wrestlers in professional wrestling and it didn't matter to me who? Like you couldn't convince me otherwise I've always believed that they're the best and I've known it for a long time. So when they're w champion now or whatever it is, it's like, yeah, of course, and so the maybe the next year two years later after that was when L. Generic and Kevin Steen made their first appearance at eight and their first appearance was at one of these Ted Petty invitationals. And so. I I, don't. Maybe I'm. Trying to think who was my first round but yeah, in that Ted Petty by first round was L. Generic Sammy's Zane the first time we ever met for some. We ever shook hands We go on to have like what are the best matches I've ever had the first time we ever meet knowing nothing about each other zero research nothing but we spoke the same language even though he's a French-canadian and we felt the same way like it was just as magical thing. Like in the semifinals I wrestled. Kevin Steen. We tore it up just. They were just special right from the giggled. That's what I'm so spoiled I'll go to places are Russell, the local guy who's supposed to be good and I'll expect him to be. At the at the level of these guys are like the next tyler black or will osprey and when they're not and I get frustrated about it I, I just have to remind myself that I've been extremely spoiled and extremely fortunate. To be surrounded by the best my whole life had just always felt like I've I have more room to climb because I gotta get better because I gotta chase these guys which your favorite moment in the business today my I can tell you my favorite moment advocate for had and wrestling I'm wrestling codgy tomato. This is a a match in New Japan in the Super J Cup. It's Corrigan Hall, which is, where is the first place went to Japan back in two thousand. Four I think I went there two dozen five cork in hall. So I've been building this fan base it is the. Pinnacle of it is the best place to wrestle in Japan. It's like the fans the most knowledgeable in any way if through hard work at over a long time, you can earn these fans respect and we did this thing. To he uses a small package as a finish. So I, dash off the ropes like we're talking dragon gate as fast. Anyone's ever hit the rose and I come flying at him. He scoops the small package like if we go from standing to the shoulders down in an instant and we get one to massive kickout enders gasp from the crowd a unanimous gasp and that was it for me. That was they understood everything I was going for and they appreciate it and it was just Thinking about it right now gives me goosebumps because it was there was no quote unquote store. The storyline was every day of my life versus every day of his life everything we've ever work towards all the time we've almost WANNA match every time we have one an accumulated in this little small package and they got it and they got what I What I have in my heart it came out and they loved to and man that that was it. That's that's the most special moment I've had wrestling cornell. That's this smaller venue. Correct. Is that the usually the night after the big show is that correct? Well, everybody in Japan just runs Cork and hall very rarely do people run the Tokyo Dome Corcoran Hall, Maybe Twelve hundred and you WanNa do Supernova Conc- cork and all you. Want to have it sold out. There's there's a stack of risers behind the ring but the the where the CAM is like it goes up really high and then there's two balconies on either side where like the fan clubs go or small show that's kind of the rest of can watch from. But yeah, I mean in halls where ricochet verses will osprey happened and I mean I'm sure you can hear me yelling from the bleachers. Get is beat his ass. Ricochet. I wasn't like I was loving that that was one my favorite moments in wrestling to just being there for for that one witnessing it in yelling and kind of like second ricochet even though I wasn't in the match. In Japan. You always go out there with your partner, but since I was wrestling in another match that day I think I wrestled Taguchi like got hard way blood. On. Accident. And I would say my other like the most the other most special moment for me was I got to wrestle in a six man tag, but it was with my brother Mike and it was at k Bs Hall Kyoto, and so the second best venue there's Corcoran Hall, which is just ultimate because Tokyo I. Mean it's like New York City that's a gallon said yellows like if you're going to go and you're gonNA see a show go there and he's like when that crowd pops when that's allowed, he goes it is just your eardrums are rattling gets so loud there. Yeah it's. It's all about the atmosphere in like this ethereal vibe and it's like decades decades of honorable combat have occurred in that very square and so you channel all that energy, the energy of the ancients and the energy of the future and just the energy of the crowd and it all is just boiling in that ring and so that brings me to s hall where it is a Dragon Gate show right? Right. After I left me I went back to Dragon Gate and ring of. Honor. And K B s is the hall. I'm sure you've seen in somebody's pictures fifty foot stained glass window behind the rain. It looks like a church and I always talk about on Sundays Church for me or temple since they were Jewish Abbott. It's it is it is my religion without a doubt I swear by it and I love you know I'm very devout. So Katie Hall I mean, it's there's a ritual it's haunted. So before the show, the President of Dragon Gate throw salt at all four corners of the ring and the salt on the back of all the wrestlers just to give you a little blessing for safety because you don't want the haunting to happen. But then this was a show that both my my brother and my younger, our youngest brother who doesn't wrestle and my Dad came out to Japan and got to go to the show and be there live I mean for all the shows I do it really is the most fun for me to get to do it in front of the people that kind of care the most, and you'd always know your family. So this was great because my brother Mike it's. kind of under the radar within the wrestling world but he earned a very good reputation in dragon gate of his disciplined and hard work, and he kept going there back and forth. So finally getting tagged with him having an awesome match, there was just it was one of the more special moments in my career. Did you experience any haunted activity while you're there to cover? We got pretty good. It did. But you can ask ricochet about what happened to him in a pack when they did they the best of the Super Juniors that happened there and there's like. A windfall of injuries in that building not. I'm I'm superstitious in Kyoto is is one of the most it's like it has the most temples out of any town in Japan every whereas like Zen. Garden there, and so I think you, you really do have to like a pay your respects to the holies before you set foot in a place like that dragon gate was a southern like they're based out of Kobe, which is a small town outside of Osaka said, I. Don't want to call it small town wrestling, but it was a little bit more local oriented, and so they were a little bit more tuned into those kind of local traditions I think. What's the next year look like after we get through this covert stuff for you yeah. For me, it's going to be a lot of neck train shoulder train and working on my foot to stop. I everybody WHO's listening they can go to Sido Dot Com S.? Y. D. O. J. O. DOT COM what I'm looking to do is share what I love with everybody I'm looking to teach wrestling to more people I'm looking to get people who think they want to be wrestlers a chance to get in the ring. I WANNA give them empower them to have a little base with which they can springboard into their first day of wrestling. School. So I've got an eight week program on there. I do one on one coaching to my students just debuted on ABC WS just dark. They were just you know get but it was there I try and I guarantee they turn some heads and they will continue to do that. So that's really special for me to just kind of those guys up in running Yeah you know I. I. would like to just stay healthy just. have. A being hurt and in fighting through injuries is just really it's stressful. It's painful I don't like traveling anymore. I've I've gone every I don't I don't like traveling. By plane I don't like staying in hotels. So like if you know I, mean I kinda do AIRBNB when I go out to Denver and there's a few other places that I work for defy amid talks with ring of honor right now but you never know with the future holds but I, you know I've made probably spent eight. Years of my career Twenty eight of twenty associated with ring of honor not under contract per se. But just because they didn't give out contracts then and because the other time I was asking for more money than they wanted to give me, which is obviously you know we're not there right now but that's you know ads just negotiating but really the the concept of ring of honor from when I was in when I was in college Mizzou. The constant of Ringer Boehner was all I wanted to be a part of I, want to be the deputy year anywhere else I wanted to be part of ring of honor because they believed in wrestling and so did I and that's what I mean by being a part of ring of honor I was there and watched him pumpkin similar Joe. Russell to a sixty minute time limit draw I. Saw Samoa Joe Chemical Bashi live from the balcony next to Jamie Noble amid Matt Lake beat on the ship on these shows is like because I'm. A sucker for good wrestling I'll do anything to get on a good show and I mean that's one of the reasons why I'd love to wrestle for a w I think they've got the best wrestlers in the world and they've got a great roster and lot of guys. I like to mix it up with because I'm spoiled and I only WanNa wrestle guys like the young bucks or guy, you know a guy like, Phoenix who doesn't WanNa Russell those geyser pock I mean I they you know when you gotta roster like that it's appealing to. An old indy like me all those names that you're listening listed here, and I was going to bring up e w just because that's the mark cited may just going like to see those matches and knowing what you could do with these guys. It would be fucking incredible for me. It's it's. In matters more to be able to give like audience their money's worth than just to get another option, and so I really just want to be as healthy as I can be that way. If I worked somewhere, I could really contribute everything I also have a particular vision for wrestling not just what I should be doing, what other people should be doing sure have how more. Importantly, how it should be filmed and how it should be transmitted to the end user. I. Think a lot about what my audience is doing and what what's going on in their world when they're watching wrestling whether it's live or at home and I think we need to think about the don't want to get too deep into my theory on how wrestling should be filmed but essentially. Doing is not a everybody wants to say it's Hollywood but it's not it's TV and TV and movies are completely different mediums. If you do any like if you're insane about like I am you realize that movies are projected for rear projection forward onto his screen in they're just dead image on a screen TV comes out from the screen into you. It's living you are the final viewer, it you. So the more involving in more engaging the TV can be you actually want to engage a viewer in. Different psychological ways. To traditional ways are sex and violence they were very well. but I like to engage the audience in ways that doesn't rely on a commentator telling them the whole story well, Abyan C D. E. F I like to go a C. Rpg Q. and then they can go back and figure the rest out. Might my favorite thing that I'll just quick story is me and Ricochet, New Japan at Cork in hall right? We're just smashing it up I don't even know who were wrestling it doesn't. It's hopefully it's the young bucks but it it'd be like Kyle Bobby or you know or Trenton Rocky. So awesome mixture of these guys were all in this match. And basically it's time where ricky she and I are both doing simultaneous dives. I'm going out this way and he actually is going out over the far turnbuckle like with his insane. I'm doing a more moderate dive and he's going insane over the buckle and what happens is the camera shot goes and instead of like everywhere else where you just get him going there and landing doing the thing he just goes poof camera. And then the next thing you see him like the crowd going crazy and he's standing in it that guys on the ground. So that requires the audience to actually make up in their own mind. What happened. There actually piecing their back piecing together what happened and guess what only if you're there live core can halt. You actually know what happens. So you're more people want to see it in this live rented actually engages your audience more because they're they're actually imagining in their head. They're they're they're take you. They saw a in C and in their head they have to be in without being told without without anything your mind does. that. So like there's like I, don't think it's an intentional psychology but to me, it stuck out a very powerful way to engage people to watch. So I've got I, mean I. could go on for eternity about how wrestling should be filmed and what's the best way to to to bring to when when I was sixteen wrestling reached through the TV screen and just like every like this said you're coming with me and so. Things aren't the way they were that now. So we have to have new ways of engaging our audience new ways of pulling new fans in and taking people who are excited about wrestling and really satisfying that for them where they don't feel let down after every show where they don't feel discombobulated from the camera work where they really feel like they're able to just sit down watch something with their friends in the begun with. obsess over with the book was it was like this because there was nothing was ever exactly set out to be something. It just is this like the when I started wrestling you never told somebody were booked until you walk through the Curtain Union tell someone you got to do to be contract until it happens and so I think a lot of fans think these wrestling matches rehearsed. Like. Finished product it's filmed like, hey, it's always within this frame. It's always it's hard cam shot you know. It until it gives off this look of wealth fairy. Preplanned in well ready made and it really is not that as much as we wish it was. I wish I had more time to plan out my matches. These guys work so hard. To put together matching a few minutes before they go out there because he just landed they flew in sometimes you know you've never met the guy in you have to go out and do that like I did with a generic going steam that time, but it's just like I have a unique perspective on. So sure my goal is to take my students. And my vision and continue doing visionary wrestling. I like to give my guys a toolbox filled with things, and then they innovate from there and really like if I was to have a match tomorrow out, probably do some of my students moves because they're really creative. And Yeah, you know I mean I am recruiting we have room but basically like two more in the beginners class and then two more advanced students. I can take on. I love polishing guys that are really good. Already I I mean, I can't take any credit for the work that will osprey or ricochet have done. It's all of them but I like to think I've been a positive influence in like Somebody who's like? been a helpful. Along the way and so I looked taking guys that are really good. I, mean we've got a lot of local Florida guys that have a lot of potential here and I I love watching them grow, and that's why sometimes I go even go to those Wednesday shows that in Newport Richie Because I. I feel like I. Can really help I feel like I struggled an ex flounder night bopped around so much that you know I can talk if you want to know if a wrestler wants to know what triple h wants to see, I can give them that if they wanna know what new Japan wants I can give them that if they wanted to like. Would ever arrested. There's goals and dreams are I wanNA, walk them on that path I wanna I WANNA get him. Oriented the right direction and then just send them on their way like a lot of my students want to be a part of a W. as. A young good wrestler would WANNA be. So we we started down that path. It's a different direction than you go. If went to wrestle for triple agent, it's a different direction you go. If you want to go Russell in Nashville. For. Creepy hillbillies like. Awesome Matt sidell hope to get you back on at some point so much for coming on first match brother. Thank you for the interview. We'll. Talk. Fin. Seem that's GonNa do it wrapping up another episode of first match thanks once again to our guest mad sidell for coming on this show hey, do me a solid right now please subscribe rate in review this very podcast whatever platform you're listening on if they allow you to subscribe rate review, I need you to do it for me. It just helps with all the bullshit algorithms and everything to help get us more exposure. So again, subscribe rates and review up on next week show. Hero ballpoint. Up. About. Up. Up Eric Bischoff jumps in the first match time machine.
"Baseball tonight, the PODCAST. This is baseball tonight podcast for Tuesday October six, two, thousand, twenty, producing from his home studio in the foothills of Connecticut, his Taylor Shrink on buster only working from my home studio in New York yesterday before the playoffs began the division series that everybody's been talking about Theo. Epstein. Head of baseball operations for the Chicago cubs talked about a transition in his role with the cubs. He just reiterated his longstanding belief that about a decade of service time. For an organization might be enough for him and he signal major changes to come for the cubs on the field. We'll be talking about that with David Schoenfield in Paul and Bikinis General Manager David Stearns of the Milwaukee brewers says the Milwaukee brewers payroll might have to be trimmed. We've been talking about the fallout from having no fans in the stands this year. Now, some teams may be pulling their payroll back under baseball's new financial landscape keep in mind that the brewers payroll. Payroll in two thousand, twenty was about one hundred, ten, million dollars twenty-fourth in the majors. So for David, stearns, the suggest now that the payroll might have to come down tells you how for the brewers and probably a lot of other teams major concerns ahead, the raise in the Yankees began their division series yesterday, and before all that started the raise announced that Austin Meadows who was on the injured list for an oblique issue has was added back onto the roster. He'd been on the injured list in September eighteenth with a grade two left oblique strain the first game of the day yesterday, Astros in the athletics Chris Bassett versus Lance mccullers junior, and right away we got the theme for the day. SWAYING IN A. Fly Ball that one is deep to right bill backing up Tucker backing up and kiss it goodbye. That's gone. Chris Davis that was on Q. Jim as he blasts a two run homer and there's the walk and the big fly the way the as do it Dave O'Brien. Espn Radio Alex Bregman went answer back four Houston in the top of the fourth. To swang a hung that one, a high fly ball left field deep Grossman's back to the track leaps can't get it that ball is gone homerun for Alex Bregman. On, a hanger and he knocked it out of here put the Astros on the scoreboard then makes it three to one Oakland in the fourth inning. Houston's rally would continue the pitch. Swing at a high fly ball he jacked that one deep to center. That's way back back. It Goes Gone Homerun Carlos. Correa, he has tied the ballgame. Man is at flying here today in a southern California heat, and this is a three three game second home runs in the inning for Houston. There would be another home run in the end, the bottom of the fourth. Wing at a high fly ball into center field that's well hit carrying springer's back back to the wall and it is gone homerun. Another one leaves the yard. Olson who had fourteen during the regular season? The as didn't like trailing at all and they're back in front four, three on another. Gets out of the ballpark dodger? Stadium. Oakland had the lead in the top of the sixth inning but a an error by Marcus. Simeon extended the Houston inning and then inevitably this is what happened. An to one twelve. Swaying a line drive to left field down for a base hit another in up and GonNa Grossman here's the throw home and not in time. And a big big hit off the bat of Jose Altuve. As he jumped all over it. and. He has put them in front with a two run single. In the top of the seventh inning Carlos Correa applied the coup. Gras. One one swing at a high fly ball centerfield deep Laureano back at the track leaping God homerun another one for Correa his second of the day that's his fourteenth playoff home run at the age of twenty six. That's a record. And the Astros bolster their lead now eight to five over the as in the seventh inning and they go on and win ten to five Houston leading now that best of five series one. Oh, after the game Carlos Correa talked about his day. You know throughout throughout the year I was I was trying to find my my my power stroke and I couldn't seem to find it. I was looking back a BDO two, thousand seventeen, and then when we were in the Rangers. Seen Thrown Tommy. Let's look at two thousand fifteen when you got in in the in the big leagues and you were. Doing. Great. That's all right. So you know we saw things on the BDO my hand position, the way, my body and it was completely different to what I was doing throughout this year get working on it came today do it to homer and? A. Feels great to have a guy like in Tron next to you. Paying attention to every single detail in our free to succeed out there. So I'm very grateful to have announced my hidden coaches his great. Last Evening Yankees and raise game of their series. You got a feel for how this game is going to go right in the first inning with Dj. Lemay. You opened up with a nine pitch at bat before singling to start the game, the Yankees took a lead but on the bottom of the first, any Garrett Cole on the mound for the Yankees, the raise fought back to Oh, all the way in a fastball to Arosa rain. Israel to center field. Well, hit Hicks going back Hick set a wall. Arosa Rada with a home run to straight center field and the rays have tied it at one. Dan Schulman on ESPN radio now Aaron Boone the manager of the Yankees had to make a decision. Do you start Clint Frazier? Do you start Brett Gardner? Do you start the veterans and you start to the young guy with the lightning-quick bat? Well on the top of the third inning clint frazier justified Aaron, Boone's decision to start him. But one OH, two frazier. The Yankee Lynnfield he swings and hammers want to left field. He got on top of a high fastball and hit it a mile up into the second deck for a home run to give the Yankees. A two to one lead what a swing that was he absolutely hammered it later blake snow would face frazier with the bases loaded. Snell nods in agreement with Zunino and now straightens up and come set and the two two on the way and a swing in a mask. Got Him on a slide or up at the bell to strike him out. Maybe a mistake pitch by Snell, but he gets away it and the Yankees will leave the bases-loaded. Snell would require eighty four pitches over five high stress innings and he was out of the game in over the last four innings. The Yankees hitters would see ninety two pitches well in the bottom of the fourth inning. This really weird dynamic be between one of the race hitters and Garrett. Cole played out somebody who does a ton of damage against Garrett? Cole. Is Not going into one one, a fastball to Choy, and it is well hit left center field and here is gone. What a shot by Choi. His fourth career home run off Garrett Cole and the raise take a three to two rain. Jeanne choices beats up on Garrett Cole and I read a note from ESPN, stats and information today that choice home runs have come on different pitches. He's got a home run off a a fastball. He's got homerun off the curb. All he's got a home run off of Gary Cole- slider, Garrett Cole, probably wondering what the heck is going on. Well, Kohl's personal catcher backed him in the top of the fit. One fastball that he hits well left field and it is going to go. Off The facing of the second deck, a no doubt or for Higashi Yoka, and he's tied the game three. Two batters later, Aaron judge came to the plate. Now judge gets a hanging breaking ball hits. It's left in Garland. A line drive over the head of a Rosa Raina into the third row of seats another home run for the Yankees and it is four three New York. The raise would rally in the bottom of the fifth inning loading the bases with two outs. Set and the ones who right back to the high fastball triple digits from coal. One hundred miles an hours he gets him swinging and the rays will leave the bases loaded. And the score would hold it for three into the top of the night. But Aaron Hicks added. Insurance. One two and a swing laced into right center for base. Higashi Ohka around third the throw to the plate is not in time. Oh, I was close but Higashi Yoka, slides in safely to make it five to three. Next to the plate Giancarlo Stanton. To two. And Stanton lifts a fly ball center field t fan conned. Grand Slam for Stanton. And that'll blow it open here in the ninth inning. The Yankees now lead nine to three. And that would be the final score stanton with a home run in each of the Yankees. Three postseason games so far this year after the game boone. Giancarlo Stanton talked about the day. It's one game. We win three We know we've got a we nother. There are great team and a great opponent, and we know we got to play our best to beat them. So I don't think there's any statements or anything like that. We gotTa Win Two more and and that's going to be a challenge in and we're excited for that challenge though. That allows us? To come out like we did on this just where wearing their pitchers down The whole game in. Game Two of the American League Division series will be played later today we also we're going to have the first game of the dodgers and padres series the marlins against the cubs and Max freed who starts for the braves today talked about getting the ball in game one person clubhouse the intensity brings every day. but for me, I just knew that I had to go out there and just win games. I knew that when I had to take the mound that. you know it was we had to try to win that game. So that was kind of mentality from it I try not to do too much because obviously you can try to you know. You, know Push the boundaries and Kinda tried to get outside of yourself. But for me, it was a lot about. Staying within myself being confident and just going out there and just trying to win a game when I when I, take the ball that day my only plan is to what do I have to do to win this game? Kind Kinda just took that mentality for each start. In Arlington the dodgers and padres start their series city Walker Bueller will be on the mound for the dodgers. Anther to elegance some. So it wasn't wasn't super fun for me, but you know obviously there are some there's some intensity in in those games and. You. Know we enjoy that we've played in some big games in the past few years and and that intensities always a good thing I think you know those are obviously to really talented players they got over there but. You know they're going to get team. I. Don't think you can just trying to beat. And know let the other seven guys run wild or whatever. So Important to to not let those guys beat you. But at the same time they they've got some other guys over there they can. They can do some damage before we get to Dave show on field and Paulin Makita check out the latest episode of the cfpb e pod Herbie pollock into Gandhi recap we five and talk about Georgia playing with an edge. Tennessee's continued improvement. Florida's offense a vintage Michalik letdown Oklahoma's loss to Iowa state and if Tom Herman. In Texas, are feeling the pressure download and subscribe to the FBI pod wherever, you get your podcast. Before, we continue we need to mention our friends at Shell. Here's a fact for you. 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That's code bt only draftkings make it rain minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions apply see Dr King's Dot Com for details. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show show. Show. Show. Show. Welcome to the show maybe you're in the show with TV show and. David. Schofield covers baseball free, SPN and certainly now that means talking about the division series. We're going to do that in a second but. I I was fascinated and yet nothing that was said was surprising to hear from Theo Epstein head of baseball operations for the cubs about what's to come you know not only did he make it clear that they're going to be major changes for next year I as we sit here today I don't think Carl's whoever will be on the team next year I think they have. A really difficult decision with Chris. Bryant's you know after talking with folks with other teams, they wonder how much trade value he would have or even might even incredibly be non tender candidate given the where his Pero where his salary is and and we're payrolls going around baseball But the also signaling that you know he's he's in the twilight of his tenure with the cubs. Sounds like he has one year left on his contract. Same is a Bryant Rizzo Schwarzer. Happier biased. So they all might be free agents after next year. Yeah you know you read between the lines in it certainly sounded like he's suggesting twenty twenty one will be his last year with the cubs. I'm curious about some of the onfield moves the. You think that they might do did a piece over the weekend talking with people with other teams about the cubs young players in how? The fact is they really haven't gotten better since winning the world series in two thousand, sixteen up and down offensive performance What's your gut feel on Bryant who made seventeen and a half million dollars? He's eligible for arbitration again as someone noted me the other day and evaluated with another team, can you imagine if he had won that grievance that he had against the cubs and he had actually been able to be eligible for free agency this fall he wouldn't have been in position to command some big walker contract in fact. A little bit more so Uzun a- and have to take a one year deal based off you know and again we're not I don't think a lot of teams would take what happened in two, thousand, twenty at face value but his performance was so bad that it would raise questions. Like you're right is only thirty four games but yet tool six, four home runs a terrible strikeout-to-walk ratio look all four of those guys were terrible this year. I don't know how much trade value. Any of them have it makes it a really difficult decision for what the cubs are going to do this winter. It seems pretty clear. They gotTA I don't WanNa. Say Blow things up they act to make some changes You know so most likely like you said you, you try to get something for Schwab he at one eighty, eight Bryant as you just alluded to very little trade value higher by as I. Guess you, WanNa try to re sign him but he had to three with seventy five strikeouts and seven walks. That's not sustainable as a quality major league hitter in on Anthony. Originals did the oldest of the group know he'll be thirty one next year he hit two, twenty, two I don't know what you do with any four those guys you don't. WanNa throw out two, hundred, million dollars of hobby or by as do so. Theo in Jed, hoyer, really, really difficult off-season i. also thought it was telling the David Stearns in speaking with reporters yesterday said, well, the the brewers might have to bring payroll back. My experience is one GM say might they've already made the decision to do that or I should say the decision has been made over their heads to bring down the payroll? Yeah. You're not gonNA say that if it's not gonNA happen right and. I. Think the brewers everyone would agree probably in two thousand, nineteen in this year had certainly pushed their payroll up to its upper limit you know and to their credit they went all out. They've made the playoffs. I mean this year you know because of the expanded news of teams so that wouldn't shock me and they're in a tough position. They're really not a very good team and it certainly will help next year Christian Yelich bounces back and they do have a couple of big starters and Brandon Woodruff and corporate burns and Josh Hader millions in the bullpen but no depth on that team one of the lowest rank farm systems. I think the brewers are probably for a little bit of a you know sit tight year and Maybe try to build up some depth for a couple seasons. All right. Let's Spinoff to the division series that began yesterday. The Yankees they've scored thirty one runs and three. In this postseason they're hitting home runs all over the place and it's remarkable because you know ten days left two weeks left in the regular season. We're we're talking about the slumping Yankees and are they in trouble? Will they've got all their stars back now and it looks like they've gone back to that old Yankee formula wearing down pitching. They, beat some really good pitching in their three wins. Giancarlo Stanton of course is homered in in all three playoff games i. think that's huge. Could you know Dj Lemay was going to hit you know Aaron judge even if he's not hitting home runs is going to draw his walks but to have stanton, you know I don't WanNa say locked in just yet but looking good that's that is huge for that lineup. And just makes it hard to get through that top five or six hitters. We're GONNA be using some boxing analogies today because they always seem to apply. When we talk about a big market team going up against a small market team watching this game last night it did feel like a very successful middleweight going up against a heavyweight because of the star power. Tampa Bay is good as they are. You're right buster. You know they don't really have a star Lake Snell on a sign a couple years ago but he hasn't been back to that level. Tyler Lasmo might be developing star Beer. You look at the lineup it's there. It's depth. You know there's some good player, but there's no stars in that lineup. And I don't know what you thought about Kevin Cash I'd I think he's my manager of the year I didn't agree with his decision to you John Curtis in the ninth inning rather than one of his top. Three. Right. Handed relievers, the game was still up for grabs at that point me let it get away from him but on the other hand yeah. All all topper LEMURS available for today's game. Yeah. I got some notes on that too from staffers with other teams they were wondering tear down Iran. It's a short series five games. You can't concede anything why not use one of your main guys in the way that I answered back was well, these are the raise and they have to believe in those guys like John Curtis. Probably a lot of teams kind of guy you know twenty seven years old Just just now emerging and yet if you're the raise that your whole team. It feels like they have to rely on guys like that. Yeah, and to be fair Curtis was really good in the regular season at the same time. He was a guy a year ago was let go by the angels and Phillies so and he hasn't been used that often at high leverage situations but I get an cash it after the game you. Know he didn't want to use Anderson or casteel or pete their bags in that situation didn't work out that happens I. I also fell. I'm watching that game DJ Lemay who opens up the game with the nine pitch at bat against Snell and singles to open up your like up. Here we go. Yeah I thought the same thing and DJ Lemay Hugh. He's just incredible. Incredible I mean. Jose Abreu Braver Shane. Re probably win the MVP in mate you though Fiat Miss. Time in all. By the been right up there but he's just turned into an amazing baseball player just such a tough out. What did you think of Aaron? Boone's decision for today to have day Garcia starting for them and that way they lineup Tanaka potentially in game three and Jay. HAP- You know he could start in game four if they decide to go that route or he could have happened in relief today behind Garcia. Interest I don't think Aaron Boone said this. But if you read between the lines, all you know Garrett Cole is going to go fairly deep and gained one six or seven innings So you know you don't need. You weren't GonNa Overuse Your Bullpen and game. So Garcia probably isn't gonNA go deep. So that gives them a chance to bird through their tire bullpen in game two. Then Eagle back to Tanaka who I know he didn't pitch well against Cleveland but historically as been a good postseason pitcher. Hope he can go a little deeper in game three. Way To sort of balance how and when he's using that bullpen according to research by ESPN stats and information the only other twenty one year old to make a postseason start for the Yankees. Was Whitey Ford in game for the nineteen. Fifty. World series. So Davey Garcia today doing something we haven't seen very often and I would I would like to say this you know a lot of times. If you know a player says something untoward, he'll get a lot of attention. He'll get some criticism from US I got a tip of. The KAFFIR for J. Half you know it's clear that he really believes that the Yankees have manipulated his inning. So he's not going to raise reach his vesting option and his Aaron Boone Knowledge. Yesterday he has been a pro you know the quote from from Boone was he'll be ready he's going to be. He's going to play a big role for us like a pro like you say it'll all this year has answered the bell every time whether he's been disappointed or whatever it hasn't obviously affected his pitching, I it's well said to me. Yeah, no absolutely, and you know he was really key during their hot stretches during the season. So look, the series is not going to be a sweet I think we'll see happen game for right. It does seem like the Houston Astros who beat Oakland yesterday they're Kinda freed up mentally like, okay. WE'RE VILLAINS GO AHEAD. We're just going to go out and play Carlos Graham particularly particular looks great day. You know that. I picked Oakland. That serious because I kept looking at the regular season numbers Houston on the average two point five runs per game, against Oakland in their ten meetings and they laid it on the as bullpen last yesterday. Again, I don't think Bob Melvin anything. Wrong. He went to the early with the lead. It was the best an MLB during the season. They just got lit up and you know if bregman encourage neither of whom are that great in the regular season get locked in George Springer Lawley seems locked in October and even out to make came through yesterday. So yeah that looked a lot like the two, thousand, seventeen or two, thousand, eighteen or two, thousand, and Nineteen Astros lineup. George Springer thrown out four hits yesterday and the Houston. Bullpen I think this is one of the more remarkable things we've seen this year because you remember those first days when they started the sixty game season where it felt like every day we get an update on the Astros and there'd be another relief pitcher who was going down. You know somebody else was being put on the injured list with Roberta was soon error whoever according to the? No we got overnight from ESPN stats information after five scoreless innings on Monday the Astros Bullpen. Now, fourteen in two thirds scoreless innings in three postseason games as of allowed three hits struck out fifteen and walked six. Yeah, that's been the key I mean I. Remember that two point I know they had twelve rookie relievers on their roster early in the season and they're still six or seven on the postseason roster. But as we saw yesterday, even the guys we've never heard of Noli parades. These guys have great arms and then you got Ryan Presley's a pretty good closer lockdown the night So it Houston I know they were under five hundred but this does not look like a five hundred team right now. So this is kind of a fun interesting thing to think about the Astros and the athletics are staying in the same hotel. Can. You imagine what it would be like if Mike Fires would've bump into some of the Astros players what what do you think would look like right there. So you're telling me if they're in line at starbucks in the morning then. Carlos create is not buying a Mike Fires in ice. Law. Yeah I, and I think that they're all aware of the fact the astros probably know that if if somebody got really upset and started throwing punches that would probably get much more attention that they really want. I. Suspect that if this happens if they're if they happened to bump into each other it would kinda be staredown. That would be my guess. Yeah I don't think you're gonNA have a whole lot of a lot of words. You. Know I know you wrote about it I wrote about some of the bad blood in the playoffs, but teens are pretty good about. Not Losing their cool. These big games I don't think we're going to see any don Zimmer Martinez incidents this year, maybe not in that series but I do think we are going to see some stuff. I kind of wonder about the padres and dodgers in part because the padres search. CELEBRATES, overtly but somebody's GonNa get trapped at some point I asked him yesterday in the podcast ranked the four division series in terms of Animus a as you mentioned you at that article yesterday talking about the history how would you rank them? All I put as Astros number one but I think you're right it it seems like you know the tension has may be cool a little bit there. Yeah look there's no doubt. Now with a couple of the incidents from the regular season that trained Grisham, the home run he hit off Kershaw. Stared at it. That obviously rubbed the dodgers the wrong way not so much kershaw. He never said anything at the time but certainly day roberts in the players were not happy with showing up Kershaw and you know we've seen how Fernando tat tastes I love him. He gets excited but he'll flip that bad no flip it a long ways and the dodgers are not that kind of team. They don't do that kind of stuff. So you know and there's a lot of pressure La. So thank start going south for them and the hundreds are remedied in their faces I. Think you might see a few high in tight pitches for. Sure I think that's the series that or that's the that's the match that I'm most interested to see the dodgers pitching to Fernando Tattoos. Junior. We've talked all year about how he plays with such amazing energy, and if you look at the numbers that the dodgers have a pitching has against them this year, they've held him in check and I kind of wonder if they will do that in you know let's face. It did play last week. But now you're talking about division series it's the dodgers it's the postseason there's more hype there's more energy and maybe try to use that against him by getting into expand the strike zone. I agree to a five against them like this is the series you know we were contemplating how this bracket might lineup back at the end of September I'm with you tattoos he's not a big hacker he's not Almere by his but he will chase he does have some swing and mess. So with you certainly early on in these games I think they're going to see if they can get him to chase why throw a strike you know even though he struggled a little bit September, we saw once he gets locked in against the cardinals he can carry this team for five game so make them. Chase, absolutely last one for you. What are you looking for in the other series the Marlins against the braves? Well, you know it's all about the starting pitching for the Marlins if they're going to win this because they don't have a great lineup, the bullpens. Okay So you know those three guys that are starting one two and three are really going to have to pitch. Well, I love that game to match up with the Anderson six dol-. Sanchez, I think that's going to be the key game in that series. All right sir. Well, enjoy today four games that should be a lot of fun it will. Jumping into the numbers. Matthew evaluated millions of leases data in the night the runarounds Cincinnati by two hundred. Five last. This is Hembo knows ambos. Research Espn. WHO's a hunch on the show get up Mike Greenberg tells us is because he is a wild party or Hembo We'll start with this before we get into some of the playoff series going on we just we're talking about the question of what Theo Epstein said yesterday what it really means about major changes with the cubs. In I've had conversations with evaluators with other teams who think that the Charles Schwab is a serious candidate to be non tendered going into two thousand, twenty one especially in light of the financial landscape and where that might go and I actually had some high-ranking folks. The other team, Saint Chris Brian is someone that they're going to have to look at either to dump the contract getting little in return or a possible non tender tell me about those two players and how you would handle it. So with swore I, think a non tender is a very reasonable and legitimate. We're talking about a player who has who has Not, grown hardly at all as a player that's only produced five wins above replacement is an entire career I think in the minds of some fans is this awesome hitter because of know what we remember during the two thousand, sixteen postseason when he came back from injury but buster, you know as well as I do that's just not the player he is anymore and given salary that he's likely to earn next season I'm not so sure that he has almost any value there and I think he'd probably get a good shot playing somewhere else because there's you know you you can always use a left handed, our bat but. He's a part of the cubs future for as Kris Bryant. He is a player. This was the first year of his career when she was not at least twenty percent above average is hitter at least as measured by ups close his defensive metrics issue are pretty good. Now, he had a terrible season he drove in almost no runs the entire year until the final weekend and he along with Anthony Rizzo and Harvey are bias have not hit a lick not a lick in the playoffs since winning the world series. And that twenty, five, million dollars salary, which is something close to what I think he can expect to make next season is a daunting task for steam. If they're not first of all, they don't think they can compete or if he's not a potentially part of their future have seen no of the animosity as it relates to hit he in the front office because they held the handled manipulated his service line but lie, yes is that you could eat you that you could pay his his arbitration salary next. Year and pursue e-trade, and there there would be a handful of things I would guess out there that would be willing to pay at least fifty or sixty cents on the dollar for Kris, Bryant with a proven track record as a two way player. All right Let's talk about previews for series. It start today would he got marlins and braves? Agree that the braves have far superior lineup to the Marlins in a better pitching staff top to bottom. But Miami can steal this series buster on the base paths. The marlins led the National League with fifty one steals during the regular season converted at a seventy nine percent. Heels went three for three in the two games against the couple. Of course. Now, the braves, the allowed forty two steals their on forty seven chances during the regular season. That's an eighty nine percent clip that was the worst of any team in the National League that of course includes allowing twelve steals in thirteen attempts against the Marlins, which is to say if this actually becomes a nationally series Marlin, generated more ground ball hits than any team during the. Regular season the the marlins are a sort of a higher contact rate tight team. My guess is that they're going to do the best. They can to avoid the three run homer and they're gonNA play this way, and the way they've all season I'm not gonna I'm not GonNa bet against them even though the braves are a clear favourite in my mind. All right. What about the padres dodgers? Well, the dodgers can pitch with anybody but their fate in this. Series could be decided by a pair of left handed hitters with postseason ghosts, those of course being cody bellinger and cory seager buster amongst five hundred, twenty, five players with at least seven, seventy, five postseason plate appearances, bellinger strikeout rate ranks five hundred, and twenty fourth stand once in every two point trips to the plate in the playoffs and the time we hit well, that's evaded seger during his postseason career secrets four for thirty, nine with runners in scoring. Position, and for his last thirteen it into the twenty seventeen world series against Houston when combining the numbers for bellinger and Seger. In those circumstances you get eight, four, seventy, four with thirty strikeouts against four walks. Now, the dodgers might be good enough to beat the padres even guys don't hit but it would make it a whole lot easier if every once in a while either of them came up with the time, we get last night, the Yankees Take A. Series against the raise what he got. Well, two things obviously stood out to the first of which was it's Aaron Judge Giancarlo Stanton they're gonNA hit like this. This team is the world series saver. In fact, Caesar Sportsbook by William Hill Bear oddsmaker may installed the Yankees ABC favorite to win the world series this morning for the first time in several months. So they see it the way that we do the Yankees are now ten and three and everything six and a half runs a game in the postseason when both judge and Stanton are in the lineup, you can't expect them to homer every game of course but just Their mere presence clearly makes a considerable difference. A second thing is that even when gear a cold doesn't have his best stuff, he can still shut buster. He is twenty one strikeouts in the postseason. Now, twenty of them are swinging strikeouts he at eight more last night, he struck out three of the last four batters in that game with one, hundred, ninety, nine, ninety, nine, this guy's the best pitcher in the world I don't WanNa hear otherwise and so long as he's throwing like that and they sit up the rotation appropriately I don't see I. don't see a way in which the Yankees or stop before they reach the. World series, in which they would most likely play the dodgers in my judgment. Well, they would have to go through the winner of the series between the Astros in Oakland Houston wins yesterday when he got well, Houston is now score ten of its seventeen postseason runs with two outs and I think that probably speaks in some sense to the experience that these guys have accumulated over the last few seasons and clearly they were doing a. Really good job sort of internalizing all the anger and vitriol directed towards them and and producing good results on the field. As a result I was actually very critical of the dusty Baker higher you might recall, but it seems like the temperament of this team and the way they're going about their business right now is exactly how they should be as bullpen was the best baseball during the regular season and they couldn't hold it together yesterday. The the Astros are doing exactly what you need to in the playoff they're bullpens. Bats and they're getting time we hits I'm not going to bet against those guys either. But I still think the as are a better team to stick with that tech and they'll pull it out and before you go I'm curious about how you being philly's fan how you feel about what's going on with that organization McClintock the general manager steps away John Middleton will be looking at candidates new general manager candidates. What would you like to have that type of guy who liked to have what? Would you like another young analytics person or would you like an old school general manager a guy like Brian Sabin who of course, led the giants to their dynasty you know maybe Dave Dombrowski what type of person would you like to see? So I would favor actually splitting the difference if I could I know for certain but I don't what they've Dombrowski just because Because ev every word he's left at least the last few places buster. It's been ugly even though he has one in fairness to him but that's the last thing that the families need right now considering all the financial obligations that they have at present that's not the person I want, and I think McClintock skip necklace acts gonna mean the phillies probably. Zag. Away. From that young analytic site, the person I want the person I want to stat. Levin. Now, they'd have to offer him the president of baseball ops title to get them away. Who knows that you would consider doing that obviously, we're living during pandemic right now and there's there are a lot of complicating factors but I think he's the best person for the job because. Ultimately. What matters most phillies sort of realign this program they can spend money with everybody else. But as we know as we talk about his pockets, many times you in May that doesn't come anywhere close to guaranteeing any sort of results we've seen that with the angels we've seen it with the phillies. The needs some need a general manager who can put a staff in place for player development for scouting, and also you know sort of balance that perfectly with the analytics type. So that's the person I want or the kind of person I want someone who has a track record and doing some both that's probably pie in the sky. That's what I got for you. All right and both. Thank you. Boys. Bleacher tweets. Already bleacher tweets for Tuesday, I up our friend Amy Chapman at amy are Chapman rates with all the talk about hinch and core potentially managing again perhaps as soon as next season why hasn't Carlos Beltran been part of the conversation do you see him getting another chance? Yeah Amy I'm curious about that. You know I remember talking to Carlos during the postseason last year before he had really been connected with the mets and he was very specific about how it felt like I needed to be exactly the right job for him to manage. The fact is you know he's lived in New York he's played in new. York, he played for the mets played for the Yankees and I think that was part of the attraction form. I can't say that my sense was that yeah. If he got an offer say manage the the Marlins or manage some small market team some sometime down the road that that would be something to he'd be interested. In and you know unlike hitching Cora Carlos Beltran I mean he's he certainly someone who career is broader because of what he did is is a player he has You know things that he does off the field I'm not sure if he's GonNa WanNa manage again especially given the experience this time next one up we got Steve Miller at Steve Dot Miller writes in what is your best guess when Major League Baseball expand a thirty two teams in what two cities will have to new teams and this generated a little bit of talk on twitter yesterday and I know you're gonNA say Nashville. So what other location would you pick? I think look at the divisions they need a team out west to balance out the divisions, which is why and I think people talk about Portland I don't know if baseball's view on Las Vegas has changed with what's going on with the raiders So I think Portland. For sure I hear Charlotte mentioned from time to time but I mean nationals the big one. The interesting thing too is I think for years, the perception was Major League baseball needed to take care of the Tampa Bay and Oakland ballpark situations before they go into the expansion conversation but given all the money that they've lost this year I kind of wonder if the expansion conversation might be accelerated where you'd have owner say boy if we Could sell an expansion team for an I'm pulling a number of the air one, point, five, billion or one point two billion that we can split among the teams that will offset some of the losses we've had. Oh, that is quite intriguing. All right. Good stuff for things right in everyone should bleacher tweets on twitter please subscribe to rate and review this podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and enjoy the games four of them today. Very exciting. But let's be clear here. Nashville would be awesome and I'm biased having lived there for eight years having gone to school there. 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