35 Burst results for "Stalking"
Britney Spears' ex ordered to trial on stalking charge
"Britney Spears short timer ex-husband is facing a criminal charge for trying to crash her wedding A judge in California has ruled that there is enough evidence against Jason Allen Alexander to have him tried on a felony stalking charge Alexander is 40 and was married to spears for not even three days still he felt compelled to show about her wedding and talk his way inside where he live stream part of his foray quite records say in addition to the stalking charges he will also face misdemeanor counts of trespassing vandalism and battery His lawyer entered not guilty pleas on his behalf Spears married longtime boyfriend Sam asghari at her home in California on June 9th among the guests where Selena Gomez Drew Barrymore at Paris Hilton and Madonna Gabrielle
Bob Cesca Is Unsurprised by Enraging Day 4 of the Jan 6th Hearings
"Just give us your general impression of yesterday. Oh, well, not surprised at all. As much as I'm enraged by the stories that were told yesterday about the physical intimidation, shoving into people's homes and things like that, the phone calls, the obvious racism that was confronted by shame Austin and lady ruby. Just outrageous. And but at the same time, not surprising. The Republicans have been leading us down this road for years. I've been tracking the personal nature of Republican attack dogs for going back into the George W. Bush administration. I mean, if you look at how Jesse watters on Fox News channel, for example, made a name for himself on that network, was confronting what I consider to be non combatants, people who don't participate in the political debate who don't have media training and his whole shtick was to confront those people in their driveways or at their place of business or high school principals, teachers, educators, where he was stalking and confronting them on camera. One of the most atrocious examples of that is when he went around, I think it was union station in New York City, harassing homeless people
Britney Spears' ex Jason Alexander hit with felony stalking charge, pleads not guilty
"A man who has once briefly married to Britney Spears is facing felony stalking charges for trying to crash the pop star's wedding Jason Alexander was married to Britney Spears for all of three days but for whatever reason he decided to show up and act out at spears wedding last week to longtime boyfriend Sam asghari Alexander now faces a felony stalking charge along with misdemeanor count of trespassing vandalism and battery Authorities say he was streaming live on Instagram when he approached spears house and was in an empty room after telling security that spears had invited him She had not Alexander's bale is now set at a $100,000 a judge has ordered him to stay at least a football field's length away
Supreme Court Justices Face Threat Over Leaked Draft
"I want to argue that with you because if they've got 5 firm votes and they know that they're going to overrule roe and Casey and they've just got to let the descents put their descent together and maybe the chief does a concurrence like he did in citizens united while joining the majority. There are lots of things that could happen. But if there are 5 votes to say we're going to overturn roe and Casey, the present danger to justices of fanatics is real. And I drove past Sunday last. The softball baseball field where the Bernie Sanders supporter stalked prepared and tried to kill half the Congress. And we have a number of fanatics in this country. And if you incentivize them to do something, like harm a justice, I just, I'm not comfortable with that. Remove the incentive. They can't change the decision once. How does releasing the vote remove the incentive? Because it's not a judgment until it issues from the court as a judgment. And so if a judge were to try his or her car off of a cliff tomorrow, by accident, the majority vanishes. They have it issued a judgment. So it can change into the last day. But that doesn't. I mean, if the vote total becomes known and it is to overturn roe and Casey, I don't think that changes. I mean, you're knowledge of the procedures of the Supreme Court exceeds that of most Americans. I think that if I had lunch yesterday with a I had lunch yesterday Republicans voted to take away a woman's right to choose.
Governor Ron DeSantis Is Spearheading the 'Florida Model'
"Florida governor Ron DeSantis is creating a new model. Let's call it the Florida model. And this is turning heads all over the country, turning heads on quite short among fellow Republican governors. Who now go, wow, this guy is really showing how to get it done. How to deal with the media. How to neutralize opposition. And really how to insulate yourself from scandal and from counter attack. And desantis is showing that he's really a multi talented guy in the political sphere. CNN is taking notice as an interesting article that talks about desantis, and it's not negative. It actually has a grudging appreciation for him. I'll just read a few lines. He is a generational talent at seizing headlines. Now, he's stalking here the writer is about desantis star quality. I don't think desantis compares in star quality say to Trump, but nevertheless, he does have that star quality. He knows how to not so much on the force of personality, but more by seizing on the correct issue to put himself out front and put himself in the headlines. CNN goes to talk about his quote campaign inevitability. And this is another important phenomenon. Namely, the idea that I'm unbeatable, I've established myself in Florida. Yeah, you can run against me, but it's gonna be kind of token opposition. And so desantis having won a very narrow late to become the governor is now making it look like his reelection is going to be, well, if not a foregone conclusion then at least a great
James O'Keefe Calls in to Discuss His Outrageous Ordeal With the FBI
"Scandal to erupt is against project very task and we are delighted to have James O'Keefe with us on the line. James, welcome to America first. We've only got a couple of minutes. Tell us what you found out this week with regards to the targeting of you and your employees. Well, Microsoft Corporation, legal documents show that the Department of Justice was spying on us and hiding it from a federal judge. They got secret warrants, this is the Department of Justice Scott warrants against project veritas obtained all of our emails from Microsoft and then put a gag order on Microsoft, which is just lifted this month. We found out about this. As you all may or may not know, I was the FBI rated my apartment back in November. This is about Joe Biden's daughter's diary. We looked into it. We didn't publish the diary. FBI rates my place, a judge in New York signs what's called a special master. A filter team because we're journalists and the side of the First Amendment. But the government continued to spy on me and hide from the judge and this is a really big deal on the ACLU defended us yesterday. What were you accused of? What crime did you commit, James? That's a great question. A transporting documents across state lines and these sort of ridiculous absurd things that they would never charge any journalists. By the way, I have not been charged with a crime. We have not been charged, but they cited those things on the warrant on the search warrant. And then for the secret warrants, they cited things like stalking and blackmail, which weren't even on the search warrant at my apartment. Have you been charged with blackmail James? No, no. Okay, no, that was even dropped from their own search warrant. So we don't know because they sealed the affidavit. We don't know what they told these match straight judges. And we don't know if what they told them was true or just made up. This is
Rudy Giuliani: China Is Watching How Far Putin Can Push Biden
"I think what's taking place in Ukraine is Putin China I almost describe it as a child a child pushes as far as they can go until you stop them So I think Putin is out there as the stalking horse for China And he's pushing to see how far they can push Biden So that they can make safe decisions about in case of Putin how much further he wants to go and in the case of Xi Jinping should he should he get aggressive with Taiwan And I think Biden has sent them the message they want to they want to see in here I think that's why Putin stretched out the invasion I mean it was almost like it was almost like being sadistic to Biden because Biden for remember for about a month and a half was saying they're going to invade in three days And then just Putin waited and waited and waited but he always kept saying every single day I'm not going to use any military force and that we know confrontation with the Russians and they sort of made him play out on the international stage as a complete coward Now I don't think we should use military force And I'm not sure we should be in an O 5 zone but I sure know I wouldn't give that away up front The whole idea here is to make them be afraid of you These guys have monsters You got to do a Ronald Reagan on it The Russians the Russians why talk to live there in the 1980s say that the Russian people thought that Ronald Reagan was a monster He was going to come there and bomb the note no matter what Now when they read about them they have a totally different impression But he sort of played that game with them And now Putin is playing this game with us And Biden I don't know why anybody would share Biden
Police arrest man suspected of stalking, killing homeless
"Police in Washington DC say they've arrested a suspect in connection with the killings of homeless men both in the nation's capital and in New York City the suspect is in the custody of the Metropolitan Police department Washington DC mayor Muriel Bowser we believe that there are at least five separate shootings linked to the same suspect police department and officers in New York had been going into homeless encampments trying to convince people to go into shelters for safety and showing them close up photos of the now captured suspect picked up by surveillance cameras the string of deaths and attacks on homeless people started March third bringing sorrow to this New York man experiencing homelessness as well that was very painful like guy who live in the she who probably one of my all business game murder for no reason police say a homicide captain in Washington saw surveillance photos from New York City and realized they were both looking for the same man I'm Jackie Quinn
Will Libs Finally Realize the True Criminal Harm of Democrat Policies?
"According to three sources, asimov Nash was the man who stalked and stabbed her, covered in blood, officers took him into custody right there at the scene, and later to the hospital to be treated. Nash has 5 prior felonies and three pending court cases right now. Someone who neighbors say should not have been out on the streets. This is about the community and are elected officials need to do something much different. Because this is, this was all avoidable. This is all avoidable. Now, liberal New Yorkers, you're almost there. You're almost there. You're just about to the point where you realize Democrat policies are directly responsible.
Caller Suspects the Ad Council Dissuades Conservative Listeners
"Regarding the war on conservative radio I'm sure you're aware of the donkey who's been stalking conservative radio status I call it the ad council Featuring hideous productions appearing thousands of times daily on conservative talk shows Why to discourage listeners of conservative radio Their own website touts over a hundred rep this corporate financial supporters Really They appear on 43,000 times a day across the United States on conservative radio shows Honestly I didn't know this This is very fascinating Go ahead Well I'm a radio not That's all I do through the TVs out a few years ago And trying to save up enough to buy one now that you're on TV Thank you Make me go back to it And I mean in a lot of these productions our geared toward kids but if that was if that was true and they weren't trying to dissuade conservative listeners why do these kids so called PSAs appear as late as 2 a.m. It doesn't look any sense And these things are so idiots that make you turn the channel off in a second And they take up a lot of time off of the radio
Joe Biden Sits Down With ABC's David Muir for Lackluster Interview
"Biden sat down with ABC's David Muir yesterday to talk about a myriad of various topics. You know, Biden has promised to sit down with reporters on a more frequent basis, as he's come under a lot of criticism for not being out front for not being willing to sit down with members of the media and ask her questions. Yesterday I spoke about issues that our nation is facing about things that have come about just in the last few weeks, particularly the Biden response to this new omicron variant of the COVID virus. Biden has not had a good year to say the least. Just last week he was dealt a pretty big blow when Joe Manchin announced he would not be supporting Bill back better. This was a key piece of legislation for Joe Biden. In stalking with David Mary yesterday, that of course came up, David Muir was very pointed and asked the president if he was disappointed and to explain. Why he was not able to sell a member of his own party, Joe Manchin, on the ideal build back better. Why this was not important for the American people. And cut number 9 a Biden says, hey, it's not over yet. He seemed optimistic that there was still hope that he could bring Joe Manchin around, got number 9. You've met with senator Joe Manchin, a number of times. He invited him to your home in Delaware. He came to The White House a week ago. Then he's on Sunday morning cable and says, I'm a no. How does that happen? How are you not able to close the deal? Well, look, let's talk about what we have done. We have passed more major legislation than anybody in their first year ever, ever, ever, ever. I've got to be given up on this. I haven't given up on it. But senator Manchin's main sticking point, it would appear is that the child tax credit are you willing to take that out if it means bringing him on board? Well, look, I want to get as much as I can possibly get done. As much as we can possibly, then I still think we'll be able to get a significant amount of what we need to get done done. Particularly as the American people figure out what is in this legislation. Is it that part of the problem that the American people kind of know what's in this 2000 page spending bill? Is it that the problem, mister president? We do know what's in there. That's why we do not support it.
The Hill: White House Incivility Is What 'Lost' Sen. Joe Manchin
"Joe Manchin Yeah he's been saying the same thing about the cost of this thing and about how it's going to kill the energy sector in his state of West Virginia and it balloons the power of the government up bigger than it was and all that stuff He's going to say that But when it really came when push came to shove when they said why now Why didn't you just play this out Why didn't you keep talking Why didn't you keep negotiating Why didn't you keep trying to fix this thing so that you could give Biden a win here and his answer Because of the incivility Have you read this He told the hill this he told a radio host in West Virginia I love this radio host name by the way Happy kirchhoff Hoppy Happy in the morning I do morning radio I might change my name to hoppy Hoppy is a great radio host name He said here I'm going to quote him He said talking about The White House He says it's not the president It's the staff They drove some things and put some things out that were absolutely inexcusable in civility he said A civility is a trait that mansion values He has his entire he talks about it all the time We need civility and politics and party It's a good West Virginia Right Good young man I suppose So now he has to do with the snot nosed jerks at The White House Ron klain Jen Psaki Susan Rice all the ivies right All the ivy's who know so much better and they treat him with the same old know it all disdain that they treat all of us with We hear it dripping from their voices every time they're on television talking down to us to meaning us They talk to mansion that way and you know they did and they unleash the hounds remember the people who would follow him around from his car who would stalk him at his houseboat with kayak screaming at him that incivility And so why would Manchin do them any favors
Author Doug Giles Recounts a Harrowing Lion Hunting Experience
"Is always. Especially exciting when I have on Doug Giles, GI LES, he's a maniac, I consider that a compliment, a high compliment, my friend, Doug Giles, welcome. Eric how are you doing big dog? You are you're too much, and I say that in the good sense, meaning exactly the right amount. Behind you, I see a mounted Lion, which I believe you sent into glory with your own gun. Is that what happened? Yeah, I was fortunate to hunt this line back in 2015 right before doctor Palmer shot Cecil the lion and thank God, man, that I got it before the importation ban on lions from Africa. So this thing came to kill me. I know some of my enemies wish that it would have and we shot him nearly a point blank range with an old German double rifle in Eric. I'm telling you what that leaves memory burn. And when David said he killed a lion with his bare hands, I'm kind of thinking, you know what? I might call stair core Tori as the Latin would say, or as the Greeks, you know, hailing from your heritage. They might call that scuba lawn because I can't imagine trying to kill one of these big dog with bare hands. You have to have some kooky anointing of the Holy Spirit. I always assumed when David said that, that he was talking about with a sling. I just assumed that. It doesn't matter. Lions are scary and the line behind you. Now, when you say came to kill you, I mean, you were hunting lions. Is that correct? I mean, you weren't just like sleeping and stepping back in your own business and it came to kill you. And it was self defense, but close enough. Yeah, no, we were stalking him. We found a kudu that he had killed about three 30 in the morning. And you wanted to revenge because a friend of yours knew that kudu has a child? Exactly. His name was Bert, I think. And so we had to take revenge on him, but anyway, we found him about after tracking four or 5 miles, and he was tired of our stuff. And so he decided to see what these skinny white boys from America had to offer. And it was an incredible altercation. We got it on video. I'll never post it in public because Zuckerberg and Peter will have an absolute heart attack. But it's not for the faint of heart, brother. That's
Imagine What Would Happen if Kamala Harris Was Chased Into a Bathroom...
"I want you to imagine for just a moment what would happen. If kamala harris got chased into the ladies room imagine if comma harris got hounded and harassed in a ladies restroom the new york times would be apoplectic. joy behar would be hyperventilating. They'd have to bring out a brown paper bag for joy behar to breathe into if one of the democrat icons got stalked and harassed in the ladies bathroom but no no no no no that the rules are different because the rules here. Say if you're on the left you can bully. You can taught you can intimidate. You can get people fired. You can get people canceled. You can scream. You can yell. You can assault. George floyd gets killed. Go beat up some white people.
Senator Kyrsten Sinema Won't Be Easily Intimidated
"Don't know much about kirstin cinema. She sounds like a very colorful individual to be clear to be sure. I don't know much about her. She rides bikes. She's apparently openly bisexual. She's a very you know. Kind of provocative very unique kind of. Us senator If she's got any dignity she's not going to be bullied by mob in fact she's going to digger heels in and i believe she's going to have enough self worth that she's not going to allow the mob to influence her position when you get stalked and shrieked that and browbeaten and harass like this. I mean i guess you could do one or two things you can very publicly and spectacularly cave and say okay michelle illegal chasing me into the ladies bathroom you win. I'm gonna change my mind. And i'm i'm all on board with the three point five trillion dollar bill. Or you're going to say. Hey lady pardon my language here earmuffs the kids you go to hell. You're not going to tell me what to do. And you're not gonna chased me into a ladies room and thank you're going to harass me and intimidate me. I don't think here's the cinema of the little bit i do know about. Her is going to be easily intimidated.
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Confronted by LUCHA Thugs in Arizona State University Bathroom
"The Democrats have sent their militia out again They've all these hardcore Marxist organizations Black Lives Matter Not so much antifa and tiva pretty much operates on its own But you have groups of illegal aliens other groups Who protest who go to the homes of Supreme Court Justices who are now trying to intimidate to United States senators to Democrats cinema and mansion in particular cinema Cinema was harassed bullied and sure it's going into a public restroom at the Arizona state University the ladies room the other day Yesterday and apparently she just flew in from Arizona to Regan national and they met her there and were harassing her there as well And this group is called Lucia LU CHA And has pointed out by power line Scott Johnson the lucha thugs who stalk senator cinema in the ladies room and Arizona state yesterday We're not out to win friends or influence people in the style of Dale Carnegie In little decency in an argument they applied time tested tactics
The Gut-Hormone Connection With Dr. Michael Ruscio
"Welcome to the show. Dr ruth show. I am super excited to be chatting with you. Great to be here that you're having all right so i kinda stalked you. I'm admitting it but i love. I love this whole topic of gut. Hormones as like. Okay we gotta talk about the gut hormone connection. I'm gonna. I'm gonna hunt you down and find you. Who connected me with you. Because i just started to your podcast go. Who do i know that knows him. So i found you here. You are and i'm really thrilled. Have you so first off. Thank you appreciate you taking the time out buzzer and let's dive in and 'cause i just have talked a lot on the show about hormones talked on the show about gut health but we have not talked about how gut health affects hormones so i would love to dive into that. Start there with that. There's a rich world for us to dive into Do you want to start any place in particular. Because i kind of had this dividing line where we have female hormones and thyroid hormones and can kind of oh was with one of those guys more interesting. Well we're we're interested in both and we have time so you pick where you're you to drive house that you can't you start. Let's start with thyroid. Is because this is something. I've been speaking about Quite extensively lately and maybe even taking a big step back as a prior to both hormone issues and then what will jump in the fire there. There's an order of operations. I think is very important for all healthcare consumers to be aware of because when you go on the internet and you're searching for my fatigue why do i have insomnia. Why do i have brain fog. Why do i have joint pain. You're going to arrive at many different attentional reasons for those symptoms and so having order of operations in terms of how how to go through those causes can save you a massive amount of time and money that could be squandered on doing the wrong therapy
President Biden to Survey Hurricane Damage in Louisiana
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting president Biden travels to New Orleans to survey damage from hurricane ida president Biden visits hurricane ravaged Louisiana today the president will survey damage from hurricane ida and meet with state and local leaders from impacted communities we need to get power restored we need to get more food fuel and water deployed I get hourly updates on the progress and freedom well the the night and we'll be working around the clock until the critical needs of the region are fully met idol was the fifth most powerful storm to ever come ashore in the United States after stalking Louisiana the storm's remnants track fourth and hammered parts of New York New Jersey Maryland and Pennsylvania the damages will likely be in the tens of billions of dollars Mike Crossey out Washington
"stalking" Discussed on Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?
"It wasn't about love. It was about possession so jen moved to her grandmother's house in the middle of the night once she passed away so that ivy wouldn't find her but she did and then we cut to this strange shot. Where i guess. Brian has evidence That's unbagged he's just like raw holding a voodoo doll. That is like a crudely. It's a crude image of john. So santa promises jen moving forward. You know she'll be protected by the task force and basically you know you're good so then she walks out to the car and then when they get out there diana notices that. There's a note waiting for her in on a napkin in blue marker and it says you can't help her and she plays it off as if like nothing happened but a second later we see ivy's looking in her rear view mirror. I wondered if that blue marker because it was so strange the way that blue marker was on a napkin it felt like i dunno like it was like. Don't make a big deal of the napkin like in the props meeting they were like. Don't make a big deal of the no. I like riding on a napkin and crafty. Like the day. I've it's just a no. And i almost wondered if the blue sharpie was a nod to the sharpie. She used to write her phone number in the car. That's it'd be clever but i. I don't think anybody without your student. Knowledge of lifetime movies with picks up. I don't know i know they wouldn't. I liked to write in post so so we go to. Julius boss working out pumping some iron and she comes into set some things straight forty one forty two forty three eleven truly my meeting request to air. Busy guy tough to pin down. I get it come down here. He's the reason us can reconsider. Jit can good news. You can fund. My task works rate out of this office smarter scale. Of course you have to do is open. Discretionary fund her sector decision might think. Okay okay i swear. Call your wife. Discretionary being used for scratching making a huge mistake could have friend. Do you want to frantic. Who want you job. Great delivery so this. This scene was very interesting to me. Because we just talked about how they reuse obviously. They recycle reduce reuse these locations. This particular location was like a haphazard jam. That was set up in what looked like. I don't know that that one room in your office building. That's too big to be someone's office but not big enough to be aboard room and they've thrown in some you know treadmills ellipticals this weightlifting situation. Whatever it's called. I don't do but like they put all this stuff in there and it feels very haphazard do you. What do you think is going on there. Do you think that one of the actors were like needed that on their writers they were like we can film this in here. Like it felt came into that That's shit didn't look like it lived there. No i agree with that. And i think i can't imagine. They rented that show. He was a fellow he was only bench pressing. Like seventy five pounds. I didn't look like there was much like other stuff in the room. Whoa cardboard yes. The way that the way that they shot it kept very close on on him in her and him and her and they didn't really to with on me. I don't think there were any establishing like that but it definitely looked like kind of like you said before like almost a room either storage or something on the way to another place in. They just loaded up with some crap in the background. You know 'cause it's all rented it's no. It's fully all workout equipment. That's why i ask because there's like multiple bikes and like treadmills and stuff and it's all laid out on cardboard boxes because they clearly aren't. That's not a law firm. They didn't do that for the da. So i missed items that detail. I missed. I watched the movie twice. And i missed that detail. Oh yeah no i i. If you guys are work out and make lifetime movies and know about this julia with the police chief because she got her little unit going she called it and she basically says. If you don't help me i'm gonna call you out for everything you do. That contributes to violence against women in department. So he's like okay bringing diana and cliffs so they come in like you're on a brand new task force. Thanks to the fda here put together a good team you guys are gonna have to get together and work together after everything you've been through. I don't know how you recover from a slap. And i don't think it was ever like mentioned again. No it was just remembered over in a in a world where this would have held up to a rating scale. That probably would have been the dropped. Plotline is like how did these two because we need to get to benson and stabler territory for the series right so yeah cliffs like no. This isn't gonna work for me and He's too bad and they just move on. So diana shows up to ivy's office and waits for her to come back from lunch so she can confront her. This was a great scene. This is like if i wrote this scene. This would be the exact right actors. I would hope would take this on. This would be exactly how they play it. This is a great scene between these two for this is a long one guys Forty four forty.
"stalking" Discussed on Mother, May I Sleep With Podcast?
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"stalking" Discussed on Talking Junk
"Stocking or like in general general. Oh you know. It's all about the serial killers bundy and even charles manson. I'm not sure that he he was very attractive. God well yeah. He was also. It's not just that it's like you know. All the weird crazy wants to like gin. Jeffrey dahmer. there's so many i love it. I have a big velvet poster of at gain home guys a good post through creepy poster. But it's it makes for a very interesting relationship right. I mean that's a conversation starter. Somebody walks in and then you got instant alert a full by. I mean visit by the bar. Because that's the good setup if it's like by the bathroom and they just walk out and see a serial killer that might be a deterrent. Big in the kitson. Okay better than the bedroom. Yeah you have any other like memorabilia stuff like that. Because you're you're 'cause. I imagine if you have a bitch of again you're gonna you know it may binds at bundy's suits no but when i was May first year in college like seapower longtime ago. Actually i think we might have still been in highschool stop stopping. I am but i. I was watching lake. Sally jesse raphael. If you guys remember that show yes. I forgot when she was talking about how people right to prisoners on death row and she gave like a thing the address you could like rights prisoners and get your own prison pen pal. I got one And he made this a really nice piece of artwork for me. it was like out of Something from i don't know it's like a skull. I don't know it's not like nice. I work but it looks cool. So i framed and i have that up as well cool so i'm curious since you're into the true crime are you also into the horror genre's or just certain aspects of horror. Is that not really the appeal for you. It's more like the psychological aspect where we think they go hand in hand. I know i like her. Yeah for sar have cast a lot of horror and and yeah any Any movies that you actually like really enjoy the like i was hell cast that you should watch it yet. There is one. It's on shudder right. Now it's called stay out of the attic out of the attic make no. I don't think anybody's open that for like ten years secrets or ghosts. Yeah i read that. John was great. i'm working on another one right in casting another one right now called trip. So that's cool. So what for that one. Maybe next year probably hopefully providing can go smoothly right forgetting last year already. Yeah once we forget. That's going to be like so you gotta go home again. I didn't mind. Quarantine say like medium gotten the training around this time. You're them more prepared like well. You know what i know. I don't need toilet paper order. I kicked my ex outright before quarantine which is amazing and brilliant of me single. Good timing and you take. It was valentine's day twenty twenty And i'll i'll other corinthian like i bought a hot tub. I put a full bar in. I looked out. It's like i'm like. I never wanna leave again. So yeah we here. I'm gonna fucking enjoy it l. Amanda hello hello to the junkers and all of us at the low to you. All think be hadn't had the we were waiting military. But you you definitely sound like would fit in our other show called the break room which we do saturday nights and we do things like that all the time we sometimes we talk about The mikhaylov some horror some some Some serial killings than some conspiracy. We've done movies actually going to be talking about And i'm sandler versus jim. Carey tomorrow el al tents. We usually just sit down. We drink and we talk a bug out so suicide south right and it's pretty like we stay on topic but we kind of do like a dance party around the topic. So we're gonna come background. Made a good statement bring everybody and then again definitely try to bring everybody into the just call in most of the time. One of our co hosts right there ago. Say join us. I don't know you guys fat and saturday nights. I usually have things to do you do but you know what this is. Also a thing that you could do if you find that you're in you just wondering little one jamie. You just told account. I'd just said i never leave my hat. I catch catch up the headphones on listening from over here. Excuses solid typical. You could find that shirt on the website. So i'm gonna get one definitely gotta get one but thank you very much jamie for coming on. We we really appreciate your time. Note like i said we have to have you on again. Maybe you pick the topic. We do the research and we all got a deep deep reminder about the true crime in the serial killers than we do so maybe you can come over some good. That'll make us to wreck. Are strictly stalking in the break room. 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"stalking" Discussed on Talking Junk
"Of trying to put out there and it's a lot of like us learning how to help other people in the situations to because you know there's a lot of people that don't come on the show that we help behind the scenes the other asking us. Hey how do we do. This is what i do. Because you know the cops really don't have training in how to help people with soccer's like the cops just kind of like. Oh we'll call us when person does something you know. And that doesn't really work breaking the law until they break the law. It's just really creepy. Which is that. You can just become a master being really creepy. Eli sheds the laws. Ungloved your favorite here can just. It's hard it's hard but it's definitely doable. It's a lot of documentation. You have to prove that you're in fear for your life. You have to prove a pattern. I mean the guy waits outside my house. Walk down the street with me and walks me to my car every day. So there's your pattern may be still need proof. Not everybody got a ring doorbell nowadays. I don't get one. So who while. I guess there's a lot on the On the show but what's one the wildest most compelling stories that you may have heard on there that you can share with us then you don't want spoil you know obviously wants people to your podcast but gosh we've had a lot one night. I always kind of interesting was This this guy he's He's like a nightclub. Dj here in la and there was a girl that was kinda just showing up all the time and he thought like she's a fan and then you know she wanted to help promote his nights and stuff so he'd let her because you know why wouldn't you and then she really just started getting crazy and there was never anything between them. Wasn't anything like that. but you know. She started like sending him things following him everywhere and it's weird because as a guy. What do you do if you're scared that like girl's is going gonna attack you in the street like you can't defend your it's hard to defend yourself as a guy because other people are going to be like. Why are you. what are you doing to this girl. You know you can't do that. I mean at one point lake. she She sent a chainsaw to his house. As a gift like it was creepy like it wasn't just like her father lake. It got like super super creepy. So she was a fan. She was a swing. Fan is a fan of. I don't know exactly what she was hoping accomplish but You know. I think she probably had some mental issue movie of mental issues instead fail traumas. You know you're being giving purchase does chainsaw. Yali can't shave was a beanbag one. You could make one. Don't know i wouldn't i. I'm not really a gun advocate. Because i think like sometimes it's not used correctly so i will join you the time it's not just because we on correctly vice be on how to use them so i can't disagree. I think i think yeah. I mean for me like i would just be like oh like take it away from me and figure that in that regard though have you heard or would you like have you wanted to carry. Maybe like the tasers some type of self defense or like. Teach yourself something just because you've immerse yourself in this world stalker ship and serial killers and true kind does not at least make yourself better because i understand that wanted to use it gun but then many methods wished much more prepared for sunday turning attack you. You are correct. There's a lot of ways in my house is definitely like a fortress at this point like i mean there's cameras in every room. You know. I have two dogs one of one hundred and sixty pounds. He's to people And you know. I have alarms so yeah like my house is definitely unlocked and then you know what i go out like my two best friends. They have my location on my phone At all times just probably creepy and you know cameras in every room is very well documented in your house. It really is an outside sometimes. It's a good thing till Somebody hacks year Your cameras and you end up all over the internet i. It's so boring here. There's actually nothing to watch. The only time i really watch when i'm not home. I want to see what my dogs and my cat or doing. Have you yourself ever been a victim of stock. i have not Not stocking Working in going to surprise your up. I mean i've definitely experienced harassment and things like that But i not stocking per se Line between harassment and stalking. Yeah there can be. I mean the difference is when you fear for your safety or a fear for your life but can you. I mean you can also fear for your life if you're being harassed as it depends on what i mean if the harassment is like. I'm going to come and kill you. Then you know that's not necessarily just harassment's it's threats you know. And then if they're constantly doing that and it's a repetitive thing. Then that's more like stocking more of like you see the biblical aspect of it that it becomes more of stock or ship as opposed just harassment. Harassment can be how that you'll feel like stalking also involves like more thought and kind of like premeditated murder versus normal murder. Thought about it more. You kinda like. I'm going to do this because i know this way i can. I can talk to this person on this route. So i'm gonna make sure i'm there every day of five that's more stalker than than to somebody. I'm gonna make sure. I say this or talking about this. So the name would you say stalking is trait. That most serial killers have yeah. You're killers stock their victims before Before they kill them most but not all stalkers are murderers. So there's some are. Do they have the potential to be. I think so You know. I think to stock somebody. There's there's something going haywire somewhere like. There's an issue if you're talking somebody and you're spending all the time and you're doing all that at the problem So when someone has a problem you know whether it's mental or emotional or something like that. They don't really know how far it can go if you don't get help right as soon as anything if you're stalking or see yourself stocking or and be out there that you know help them get help. So that way they'll be something a little worse. Definitely cannon arpey yes can. That's tied things of where they said crimes of passion which is a thing. But not if you've been stocking that's rave your stocking somebody. It's much more premeditated you're definitely going to prison forever. And ever and ever. So what's that one story that drew you into true crime.
"stalking" Discussed on Talking Junk
"You have to play into find your way in there. Yeah there's a lot of shady people in their entertainment industry that you have to overlook and get through to get things done so now is it just reality tv. That should have some for no so. I used to do reality when i started because it's a lot easier to work in reality as the casting director than the is scripted. Tv and film So he did like you know big brother dating naked afraid i'll in pennsylvania and then you know slowly got into scripted because it wasn't the easiest thing because there's there's already a lot of casting directors doing scripted. You know there's many jobs out from different people to retire or something like that died off kind of a thing. Yeah well what i was. I just started going to the schools universities and asking them if they needed a casting director and then when they started graduating getting real jobs they started hiring me so i got to kind of grow along with them smart. I he's seen so that when we grow to exactly i figured out. Yeah that sounds perfect. We gotta try to get to go like that have to ask. I don't know if i missed an asking you this the who is probably the person that you've seen that you casted grow that you're most excited to be like cast that person. I was at that moment. Grow as an actor or just sort of person the actor but like somebody that like you knew before they were some as can be like i was there before the bt know the behind the scenes person. You know it's interesting. Like i work with a lot of casting Worked with a lot of actors that you know ten years ago. They're doing like little tiny bit parts and you know now. They're they're doing much bigger parts. But i can't really think of any after talk my like no one like fan. Like i didn't discover brad pitt or anything. It's still kind of like a a like a personal. No if you know or not. But i mean if you've been doing it for ten years that's a lot of people just coming through as well coming through. I mean anyone who who stays in it. You'll get something somewhere along lines hard work. What about the two guys that are on Do survival now. did you cast them to naked. And afraid i did not know. I worked in negative fried lake many many years ago. Forget about that show interesting idea for sure does it was a great show. Yeah there's a lack of that so did you ever think about going on any of the reality. Tv the to cast it for. No i mean it's funny lately it some of those dating shows. I'm like you know. I i would probably do it. Be drunk for weaken however long it is but But i'm too old sonoran will take me so no i do eating show. They're like just reynoso fucked up ones. What about acting you ever thought about acting no no. I'm not good at that way. No it's good to know your lanes it makes you better at one. Want to be and let you focus because sometimes a lot of people are like. I want to be in this industry now. I do this or do this on do that. But they stretch out their resources too much so they can't actually be great at anything and the fact that were like well. Maybe i wanted to. Or maybe i try but i know that act so i'm not gonna put wasted time that i'm going to go ahead and do my thing again. You've been doing it for ten years. I mean do you know you know something. Ten years especially if You're getting people to hire you. Left to right i am. I've been very busy especially now that you know the pandemic is people are starting to work again. filming that's good. Yes so before we get back to your podcast for just looking at tolin. What would you ask him for. Don't do that. i'll definitely leading mad. You know i appreciate that. Go get tickets finals week so you know it could use that john like jesus stunt double her. Yeah okay all right all right. Link noah considering you have a podcast about that. I feel like that opinions as valid as i look behind you. That's good does pretty good. We do a couple of these things here thousand. You'll truly do courses through interpretation accents little bit a little bit. I think this Intro you there were. I did an action on their end. And did my russian my slowly indeed the said you should come on the show. What you're talking about greg list sometimes because get loose on the breaker on with derek. Little leaker we have it out retreat liquor here to some fast guys loose just a little bit i. I'm curious about what really got you. Because you've passion here being a casting director knowing hollywood knowing the lane. So what made you wanna come to branch out and started doing podcasts specifically You know i just. I really liked through crime and i really. I really liked podcast. And it was kind of fun just before tolerant israeli. You could just call me out of a question that was you know. And also we launch like at the beginning of the pandemic so Koroma's right after we launched. Everything went down into lockdown. So there wasn't much else for me to do other than work on my podcast so it was kinda good timing for you to get guests I it was pretty difficult because no one really knew what we are doing. We let the survivors the talking survivors talk taller story in their own words It's mostly them talking and for lots of reasons. People don't want to do that necessarily Sometimes they're soccer's are still out there so it makes them matt inputs if our guests and unsafe situation in which case voice out. So nobody knows yeah. We do a lot of anonymous stories. I mean obviously we. We know who they are. And we've seen all the police reports we've seen everything but they need to use a different name or we change their voice or something like that but also it's really traumatic for people to talk about a lot of people don't want to go on a podcast and talk about their trauma. You know now. Police reports are all of those in public domain. Or do you actually do some sleuthing together. Usually our guests send us those things. They'll send us like you know shots from there. Soccer's are sending them or you need to know somebody was stalking you see. I mean you never know. It's good to have that verifiability because there's a lot of people just like the bullshit and just to get the views so they can get the sponsorship so you know you have some type of verify abilities and really helps to the credence.
"stalking" Discussed on Talking Junk
"Solutions in different walks of life in john legend. Welcome to talking in different walks of life in both welcome to from. Where here is always talking junk here with thailand. You sir doing tonight. But i can't call has been a long week man. We'll tired but me. It's finals time. Graduation is mainly finals time. You don't wanna say finals too loud. You're a kelly. Lebron will not like that fuck. He's fine iran. You gotta family you won championships. Incented one of the greatest money. I don't have any so well. Not a spectacular guest tonight. this casting director host host of the strictly stocking. Podcasts is jamie bb. How you doing tonight. Jamie and kate. Hi thanks for having me. No thank you for being on this. Your i'm sorry how you doing tonight. Though i'm great. Friday night was a long week. Lots of work. So i'm ready to have drank after this or are you hearing for this. Probably have some wine. I have a lot of wine at home. So i mean they have a full bar but i also have a lot of wine your favorite. Yeah that's actually that's a boss. It's a must have your favorites around. Yeah so why. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Cool so live in los angeles. I came out here a long long time ago and i was actually going to manage bands and that didn't work out at all kind of happening. It's it was just like you know. A lot of bands are men and they don't wanna listen to female manager. Think and i was really young at the time and dislike this little blonde. Hey listen to me. I'm gonna tell you what to do. And they're kind of like ya know so. I went into production And i managed a little lake boutique. Production company for a while which is crazy. I had no experience in it. But i learned really quickly and when that ended i decided that casting was the best part of it so i decided to go out his leg. I'm sorry So yes i decided to be a casting director. And i started out in reality shows and then i got into tv and film Anything that we would know Just recently i had one come out called paradise city on amazon prime. It's great it's like let me see. It's like bella thorne. Jj matteo sick tons of people sunshine so What what made you switch. What was the the one thing that made you say you know productions not me. I just want to cast them because when i was working. Production is the production manager. So i feel like goes always giving everyone bad news is like oh yeah you you know. We're gonna pay you less for those early. What s no one was. Never happy with me. But i did a lot of jobs in there and part of that was also. I was doing the casting and like everyone i called for casting was really nice. I is given good news. I guess You got the so. I just figured that going into casting would be better because everyone would be nice to me. Yeah so just made it a lot easier for you. Yeah totally ten years a long time. Yeah do you still enjoy cassie. I do. I love it. I think it's great. What made you get into podcasting. Well i don't know i. I listened to a lot of podcasts to crime podcasts. And when i called my business partner and i was like oh really wanna do podcast like winds already doing all the good murders Take in And just kind of complaining to having any is a very logical person you know and doesn't like listen when i complain which is really weird I think most people just get annoyed. He's ignore his it. Whatever fixes the problem so he he was like well. No one's doing stocking. There's no podcast about stocking. And i was like i don't know anything about talking. That's so weird And then i thought about as like wait like there's a whole crime. Mother adenoid thing out. So i started. Researching n n turned into a lot more than that Because now like we're advocates and you know the laws aren't where they need to be like. It's a big problem that i just. We didn't really realize about that. So we're kind of just creating the awareness and clinton news succeed so as not on the news right in thousand thousands like murdered than it's on the news. On how grueling. The murders yeah. It's sad because there are a lot of things that continually happened because they don't see it on mainstream news they don't think about it but if you just look it up it's just like oh wait a minute who is let me. Just check that route right now. That's where here that you did. Ten years in casting in that sounds like you had a lot of obstacles to overcome mainly just people assuming that he didn't know what you were doing but like the fact that you're like well that's not gonna stop me out my lane do what i need to do to fix. You know how passionate and the fact that you were able to do that. And the fact you've stayed with it for ten years that that's a good sign of stuff out there in hollywood. I imagine it's a very specific game..
"stalking" Discussed on Drunk Librarians Podcast
"Hi jack river million. He comes down the stairs and she's like provo baraga. You're not going to leave her horse in stock up to his trying to resurrect mother. He's a madman and he's like oh what he did is is that the sounding. Yes it was me all along. You foolish child. I tell me go along with knows a fucking man. She already thought he was crazy. No he's like losing his mind and he was like i'm gonna bring her bias. That's the they setup that she she thought the dad was aren't increased. She germaphobe she and he had done other shit that was kinda suspicious and then he like had a mental break got sent away for something and she was like. Oh my god. My dad's jack the ripper and i'm like rough break but how's the cute boy. Oh he's still so handsome but they may not an alleyway in front of a morgue once again who hasn't but anyway my favorite spot man. Nobody takes me out to the mortgage anymore. It's really depressing they go. She's down in the basement. her brother comes down. He's like yeah. I've been trying to resurrect mother's sister. Don't you see the noble deed my work. He tries to like van his way out of the situation and then the dad comes down on his leg. Let the kids with gun on. And she's like I love to go now. mr the ripper like stabs their dad and goes crazy. But don't worry because sir thomas creswell comes in and saves the damsel in distress. And i don't know jack. The ripper goes on asylum and they keep their families name out of the paper and no one ever knows who check the like. Hey guys thanks for getting out of this asylum in kudos on solving the mystery superstar you brother ended up being a psychopathic serial killer. But hey it happens. You know i really. I appreciate your study of autopsy coil studies and i think it's cool that you wanna cut open people do science shit so i'm gonna send you to the world's best. It's not mortuary school that's magician. Coroner school whatever they called it back in the olden times. He's like. I'm gonna send you over there but i can't let you go alone because gall so i'm going to send you unstrap around with this boy of your same age because he's them mayan hakin Which first of all. You're not sending a little girl alone with a man anywhere without a chaperone yelling even allowed to walk in the garden by yourself. So don't gimme this bullshit. I'm sending you to blah blah blah school in trance over our little. Little and the next book is hunting dracula. And i said you could have brought me in with the dracula. But i cannot do this again. Helper part of me is like part of me is like really horrifically curious. Like how bad can it get. I'm i mean that that is twenty twenty. Don't do a girl. I know like i don't do it. I know i shouldn't. But i'm like crawl. Hope to where you're gonna do i. I really don't want you but it would give me something else to complain about. I think that would be fun. Join complaining anyway. Waning is fun librarian. B.'s review of this book is that it sucks ass and i very disappointed in. May's maniscalco and i'm sorry. I really don't like to call out authors because i think you know. Hey you put your heart and soul into the ship but you need need to evaluate your perceptions of reality. Sorry is not a really sorry. Not sorry not really polite way to say that. Someone's going to stay cool anyway. Luke socked thanks for watching and thank you for listening new episodes whenever the how i it because life is unpredictable and so i read from more drunk librarian. Shit find us on twitter and facebook. We rarely ever check them but feel free to send a message and we may see at in about twenty years please drink responsibly. And remember keep talking..
"stalking" Discussed on Drunk Librarians Podcast
"Like it and audrey roosevelt's was is like this is like so cool and you know like none of the girls in mice finishing school have done. This and i just feel really cool. Like i have like this era under my nails because i'm a hardcore And i'm glad that she feels so good about herself. I need confidences key. But if you have confidence tearing other people down. I don't think you're doing it right babe. But then inter i and like jack the ripper killing people now. I assume so by the way it's not even like a just. She actually stopped him stalking strong word. She added a hold on. That is the fucking titles. Yeah stalking jack. The stall kennedy's is the title docking. Are investigating jack the ripper and then accidentally kind of falling into the solution to the mystery that everybody who had two cents to rub together su who the killer was from the beginning art. Let's get this over with all rights Inter a tall range range. Hello she has a brother and a dad and her brother's like obsessed with his hair. Before i move onto the next character. Her brothers like he's always gonna call. It was like fifty s. We know he's got like a switchblade calm crybaby brushing his hair. And he's like sis. Yo i get that you want to go out and solve murders and you're you digest doesn't get your vibes but like you got to work with me a little. I can only cover for you so much. And she's like seeing for being such a cool. Bro i'll try and do better. 'cause like i get what you're doing for me and that's awesome guy totally like good for you go into like school or business or whatever it is the fuck you do in here and your hair looks really good. Today i okay. So that's her whole life data dad brother and her dad is germophobic slightly crazy. Her brother really takes pride in his hair. And she's not like girls k. Got injure eight told jack stranger k. Does he have to the c. Have to enter. Unfortunately he terse like in enters. I didn't read that far in the series but probably okay just checking. Probably i refuse to read the next twelve books in the series thomas creswell so have a was worthy creswell Right and he's tall dark and handsome. I don't remember how they described christopher immediately. He's basically mouth nation of every like dream boat crush cliche. You've ever heard of he's motorcycle yes. The years eighteen the ripper he's writing. Okay all right. I have written here asshole. Oh he's he's an asshole but of course he has a motorcycle of course national. Sob -s like a sexy asshole. He's like he's a sixty s hole. There is no such thing he just as asshole. Okay what is the show. People are off. Anyway he's an asshole and she runs into him when dark and stormy night in her uncle's laborde tori. She doesn't know who he is he's just like in an. He's in his uncle. Her uncle on their like buddy-buddies in there like science inch. And here's a body organize. I like that part i know. I'm like okay. Sneaky bodies vary bergen. that's how we got our dissection shit love it. And she's like. I don't know he says like condescending. She's like a how dare he becomes consenting. Just because i'm a girl but also like he's kind of cute but luckily i'm not the sort of girl to be charmed by such a handsome face. Despite the fact that i was in the next four hundred pages being super charm by his hands on days Zuber disgusted by his asshole. Are- i hate this. I hate it. Here's the thing. I read this book like in february of this year. Which you know is like twelve years ago. Cova time and i'm so mad about this book that i remember too many details. You read that before. Tiger king yes. That was so long ago. Wow so the rage has the right age. Lynched your man. I'm not talking about this book until yesterday. And now it's just all coming back to munich. A repressed it so deep down afraid of what else is going to come up with this Let's see oh. I will describe their relationship for you in this half to in this little poem i wrote earlier today. Oh krona sir. I wouldn't have to finish talking about this. How handsome how insufferable. How can i resist. But i have no time for arrogant boys. But oh his handsome thank you. that's that's the fucking book. She's always like i'm going to solve this mystery in petticoats. Because i'm a grub like other girls don't forget that for one second because these other girls who came to tea. We're talking about dresses. And i was like man. I sure wish. I was like elbow deep in some guys intestines Bitch we all do. But you know what. I want a new dress to do wedding. Okay exactly people are multifaceted. Thanks anyway she goes around town like the no. There's a new murder jack. The ripper killed someone. If you don't know anything about jack the ripper. I'm not gonna tell you like no one will help you at this point very. Oh fuck well. i'm going to take out take back. reincarnate tired. Give you my piece of paper. Paid.
"stalking" Discussed on Drunk Librarians Podcast
"Guess what now we're stage. I mean it's kind of i. I run a good time. But i mean you've been here for seven hours. We just finally sat down however who's finished first on the great race of studying their books. Well you now. Does that mean. i'm better than you. Yes i just hated my books on much. Okay we'll talk about that in a different episode. Okay let's see who. Let the facts guide you. You want the specific like you're not going to believe with this bitch. Said he keeps specifics. On why i hate it. I just want to let the rage guide my soul now. I need a plan. Oh i need. My rage has to have a plan. I have the high points. But generally when i start talking about it. You know i get carried away. This page is still wet. Thank you very much. Someone who may or may not be at the table right now and not named librarian beam. We have spilled a beverage on a certain notebook that may or may not be all to them. I have no idea if someone was broken. I can't believe someone who do that. It's just so so. So so what is the like something. I just want to rage to guide me. i. I wouldn't have the facts whenever i do on like this did not make sense. Listen to this and this happened. What the fuck. And there's a lot of those in the book site choose sometimes. Yes is actually. I mean if they're going to spend how many pages describing a seller. I'm gonna i'm gonna lose it man feel like you're referencing something in particular. I just wish that. I i knew what you man also do crawdads. Even saying i'm no not fuck in crickets. I think that miss owens may have confused her southern critters. Sometimes i like to say certain words to see if i can get a rise out of my co host. And sometimes she tries very hard. Not let me win anyway. Hello i'm librarian b. o. Started out over high. I'm library and be hi. I'm wondering and we're areas. They've never done that before. Yeah yeah so. Let's talk about something that we are both very passionate about. Let's have you seen. I don't know if any of you listeners have watched Hamilton on disney plus food librarian be and i are both very very passionate about that. Newsroom very passionate very passionate. Now which way we are passionate is totally different. Little back story. Do you want a little back story. You have the backs on at high sure. I'll be able to jump in. And so i never saw hamilton. In sierra's certain is because i am a polar yes. I forgot implausible a little library. But i do have dizzy. Plus because it's six dollars seven dollars you mean but can't compare broadway. No so. I watched it for the first time. I quite enjoyed it. You could say in the next time. I quite enjoyed it in then the the time after that and then the time after that in the many times after that. So you a committed relationship at this point yes. It's librarian be innocently. Hey you drink and record a podcast network. And i said you know watch hamilton and i believe correct me if i'm wrong here. I believe my quote was. I mean if we can make fun of ripped the whole time you said it exactly right. That is exactly it. I had never seen it up to this point. But i in a fun facts that i did not realize elaborate does not enjoy musicals. Not on the whole on a very. It's on an exceptional basis. That i enjoy muesli. I was did not occur to librarian a and the time. Well you know. I love a good rocky horror and i maybe that is what skewed my i went through a very. I went through a very large sweeney. Todd phase in high school. I can see that yes But the whole it's a negative. Not something. I generally enjoy librarian eight and unrealized this at the time pantley. I did not know that. I just you like love this thing. It share it with you. Only that so sweep i'm going to be mean about signing. He and in funny thing is at the hotel. I'm like she likes musical. This is cool. She don't like it. You're gonna end up liking it. You end up liking it because he like musicals right no actually anyway. I don't know what the point the laurel to the story. is it love. I guess. I i m not say an issue. Follow us on the tweety box. You will have gotten some of the library bug thirty bucks which you can't look at because it will make you load rains out. Forgot all about that book. Go on your should sometimes lucas good. I know it was going to but we could compare and contrast a diagram anyway but if you if you follow us on twitter self promo definitely intended At drink podcast good dumb. Close one You may have seen some of our tweets regarding essay our librarian vs tweets regarding the performance and a while i did not necessarily enjoy it as a whole composition that comes from my displeasure at musicals and genre. Did you enjoy while. I thought it was a well written. And it was great undertaking. I you know. I love history. I thought that was a great inspiration..
"stalking" Discussed on MinddogTV Your Mind's Best Friend
"Com. It's very simple all one word. Of course it will be Lincoln description to find all these things That's an interesting occupation, and I'm sure you get to meet a lot of great people and fabulous people in some phony people as well but How do you make the transition from that to having a big interesting true crime? I? Mean I've always been interested in to crime. But. The transition was I was actually casting a lifetime movie. I forget what it was called. The lifetime movie and I met my now business partner Jacob to La. And we had I had visited the set. and. We're both super interested in to crime and we got to talk again. He was like. Why are you casting? You should be producing look. Let's work together for the longest time I was like no I'm good like I was going to be a casting director and then you know we. We decided to just pull the trigger and start a company and our first. Order business happened to be the podcast so in that. Kinda came about randomly. You know who you're talking. Really do podcast. I listen to so many podcasts. Mostly all true crime, favorite obviously, but but yeah, so we just Kinda came up with it and we decided on stocking, because it's such an under reported crime, and no one's really talking about it. So. That's how it came about in our looking at couple prison, a few movies and we have some things like that coming up. For me hey. You're a very attractive woman. Have you ever had a stalker? No I have not I have. When I did my radio show and it was before the time we had surveillance cameras in the Internet and all that stuff. I had a stalker who used to call the radio show. And I was trying to figure out who it was, and then it got to the point where he was actually calling me at the radio station from inside my house so that really creeped me out, so this guy was getting into my house and calling me from the radio station, and just playing with me, never figured out quite who was so but stalking cases me. Give me an idea of summa. There are a lot of these cases because I didn't know it was that prevalent that you could actually do a weekly show or monthly show. However you always on it There's a lot of stalking cases. There's so many I mean I. Think I think we're at like one. In six women in their lifetime will be victims of stocking It's a little higher for men, but yeah, I mean we. There's so many cases so many cases out there it's it's really sad. You know it just doesn't hit the news until something happens, you know either. The victim has been hurt killed because the way the law is set up. Something has to happen before you know anyone can go to jail, but we're trying to work on that a little change those things because stocking a real and terrifying crime. Often it does end in something happening. But, so I'm a little confused, because order of protection I know, they generally are pretty ineffective. Kate somebody just go to jail just by defying order of protection and getting too close to A. I don't victims because they're not really victim yet until something happens, but you can. They go to jail for justifying a order of protection. Yes and no, I mean of course they can if the cops come, and you can prove it and they get there on time. I mean there's a lot. There's a lot of proof that you know. Victims stocking have to have which sucks. It's a lot of work. It's like it becomes a job for the victims to. Gather all this evidence in order to even get a restraining order. Get them. Put away that kind of thing so. A lot of creeps out there in the world and I think the world is getting a little crappier every day, and and the case. I WANNA. Talk to you about today. has a number of those creeps involved in it, but I just WANNA. Stay on your podcast for just a bit here now on and it's called strictly stalking I, don't have a link to it. I have like a when they call a simple simplified link that I will be putting in the in the description that make a click. Is there a direct link like is? Go demeaning, strictly stalking, dot, com or something. Yeah I mean it's. It's anywhere that you would listen to.
"stalking" Discussed on Happy Hour Gets Weird
"Is kind of. The vague nature of it. You never know if somebody is. Looking to harm you, Is going to react in a violent way. There's such a fine line between fan and Stalker when it comes to someone in the public eye I mean you have obviously someone in the industry? LOVES AND APPRECIATES AND ADORES THEIR FANS. Because quite honestly they wouldn't be where they were without fans. So there is such a thin line between your number, one fan or your biggest fan. And then it turns to stocking. You know yeah. I think that the the slippery slope between fan and Stalker. Is a real thing and this quote from Bardo. Rebecca Schafer's murderer Is a great example of that. I was a fan of hers and may have carried it too far. I loved her. If, it wasn't for my obsession, I'd be law abiding. But Hollywood is a very seductive place. There are a lot of lonely people out there seduced by the Glamour. Well I mean take responsibility for your actions. I mean it's not Hollywood's fault. The you were stalker in a murderer. No that is like I, just talk shows. Well I just think that kinda shows the descent from being the superfan. It does to being the stalker. Yeah, it does. So as we all know, stocking has not only reserved for celebrities and stocking loss still have a ways to go. Cassie, do you. Kind of talk about some statistics yet and we talked about specific celebrities in this episode because. Our summer series during with Hollywood, but this is not just a Hollywood issue. This is an issue that could happen to anybody And this these are from NCAA DV DOT, Org. And it is called a quick idea stocking sixteen important statistics, you and what you can do about it. A survey done in two thousand eleven found that five point one million. And two point four million men had been stocked the previous year on I'm sure those stats have gone up while some more than double for women. Yes, so definitely it definitely affects women more. He does affect women more. It happens to men, but it is predominantly. Women and female victims one in every six women. And one in every nineteen men in the United States have been stocked in their lifetime. Wow, yeah, that's pretty scary and time. Stocker is someone that the victim knows. A lot of the times it is like an ex lover or next partner, an ex husband next wife. Sixty six percent of female stalking victims were stopped by our former intimate partner. Sixty six percent. Eighty one percent of women who were stocked by current or former husband or cohabitating partner, were also physically assaulted by the partner while thirty one percent were sexually assaulted God. The statistics are awful. They're very scary and it's going to get scarier. Unfortunately, the youngest populations are the most at risk. People aged eighteen to twenty, four had the highest rate of Stockton Vic stocking victimization. Is Really in college. College. Women are really for some reason. target of stalking. And state laws don't always protect stalking victims like I said before. Although all fifty states, stocking is considered a crime, less than one third of the state's classify stocking as a felony. If it's a first offense, and this leaves stalking victims without protections afforded to victims of other violent crimes, seventy six percent of women murdered by an intimate partner were stocked I while eighty five percent of women who survived murder attempts were stocked I. That makes sense it's like after a bad break up, and the person is stalking you to find out your your habits, and when they can get to you, basically eighty nine percent of femicide victims who had been physically assaulted before their murder were also stocked in the last year prior to their murder. And this is why every single stalking case you'd be taken seriously eighty nine percent, because almost a hundred percent. It's like usually stocking is a lead up to an even bigger crime right? Fifty four percent of femicide victims reported stocking the police before they were killed by their stockers. That's over half. An awful stocking takes its toll emotionally psychologically, and even financially one in seven stalking victim have been forced to move because of the victimization. Stalking, victims suffer much higher rates of depression, anxiety, insomnia and social dysfunction than the general population. Eighty six percent of victims surveyed reported their personalities had changed as a result of being stalked. Thirty seven percent of stalking victims fulfill the diagnostic criteria for Post. Traumatic stress, disorder. And an additional eight percent fulfilled all but one diagnostic criteria. One enforced shocking victims contemplated suicide. One in eight stalking victims has reported losing work, because at the stocking more than half of these victims reported losing five or more days of work so. This is like a serious issue. And, how how can we help? Stalking victims we can encourage our state legislators to tighten stocking statues. We can ask our legislators to update the federal domestic violence firearm prohibit or..
"stalking" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"Of aggressively cyber stalking a native couple demonstrations are underway in Atlanta after a black man is shot and killed by a white police officer on Friday in Russia the fate of a former U. S. marine is now sealed here's more from ABC news the Moscow court sentenced will willing to sixteen years in a prison colony after convicting him of espionage we Lynn and his family have always denied he's a spy and have said he's the victim of a set up by the Russian security services he was arrested while visiting Moscow for a friend's wedding in late twenty eighteen this a long time Russian friends planted a memory card containing classified material on him the U. S. has denounced the verdict saying Russia provided no evidence against wheeling Willens lawyers have now said they've been told that Russia will seek to trade Wieland for Russians imprisoned in the U. S. real ABC news demands for racial justice are making their way to the U. K. and parts of history of the British Empire not usually talked about or talks are coming to the surface here in the U. K. there's been this really interesting national debate that has been studied by all this talk of pulling down statues of slave traders because the truth is that a lot of schools don't actually teach the history of the British Empire and the part that we played in the trans Atlantic slave trade there are campaigns going on now to the department for education to put the British Empire and some of the more distasteful aspects of our history on the national curriculum so that children can be educated about what happened in the past Julia macfarlane reporting there Boston mayor Marty Walsh resubmit to three point sixty one billion dollar budget for the next fiscal year taking into account a loss of sixty five million in revenues due to the corona virus pandemic also shifting money from the Boston police overtime budget to community groups fighting racism and helping the community as well to end youth homelessness and also support minority and women owned businesses to the garden we go behind bars the Norfolk County sheriff's department is getting in on the gardening craze during corona virus Kim Tunnicliffe on the stories of Norfolk County inmates are finding out they have green thumbs they're participating in a new gardening program being run in a greenhouse on the campus of the Dedham jail according to sheriff Jerry McDermott we want to keep them about sustainability how to build and grow organic produce this would be a great life skills that they can take with them on the completion of their term here because when they get back out and everyone is going to get back out but we want to give him some skill set that will help them be more marketable to employers but also something that they can do for themselves in teaching them about the benefit of having that kind of good nutrient rich diet right now it meets a growing peppers cucumbers and tomatoes that are being used by the kitchen staff to make meals for both inmates and staff Kim Tunnicliffe WBZ Boston news radio how about a dinner and a movie no different than eateries across the city of Boston market restaurants are going to try to get as creative as they can the scarlet oak tavern in paying a visit the acting during the reopening process we have a pretty good sized beer garden adjacent to the restaurant and we're looking forward to putting in another extended the dining room of the parking lot and that's not all GM Kenny Robichaud in the south shore steak house have in store we're starting a movie night in our back parking lot on a giant screen a.
"stalking" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"Stalker, it would be like the low end. I'm really sorry things. Obviously got out of hand. And you'll never hear from me again. Yes. The only person that would really get super rage about. That is probably a stalker. Yeah. No, it's true. You know, it's a good rule so air on the side of caution because. I mean, a restraining order is one thing. I wrote in here. They are worthless. They're not worthless. They're worthless. In it doesn't stop anyone from doing anything. But I think the main juice of a restraining order is. So you officially have legal precedent, right? That this person has done something documenting it. Although I did see I read a guardian article about a woman who is stalked by like an ex boyfriend from high school or college or something and he stalked her for nine years and. I think he broke fifty six restraining orders over that time. Right. So it's like, yeah. That's finally got two years in prison at the end of this nine years. Earning six restraining. I'm not sure exactly what he finally did that landed them in prison. Right. But the idea that you can break fifty six restraining orders and still not go to prison or jail is is it's got to be extremely discouraging for the victims of stalking. Yeah. Here's the the saddest stat of this whole podcast to me is that seventy six percent of women who are murdered by an intimate partner. Were also stocked by that partner and half of them are have been reported as Stocker. So they half of the murdered women were reported that they were being stalked before they were murdered the up. Yeah. So yes, you should take it seriously and cops, and that's with cups taking it serious. Really, supposedly, right. Still fifty percent. Yeah. So there's a so we were saying like, the what's it called the significant not significant other stalker that simple obsessional? Yeah. The simple obsessional one where like you've had a relationship with this person. And they didn't basically take the break-up very well you belong to them very frequently. If you are a victim of domestic abuse that will turn into that. But that doesn't necessarily jibe with that can be it can also can just come out of a what you would call a bad break-up. Right. But it's still like the same roughly the same. But I think if the abuser was already a domestic abuser. The chances of of violence are much greater. That's the group that is the greatest at the greatest risk of violent our domestic abusers turn stalkers. Yeah. It says thirty percent of women who are murdered were murdered by boyfriends, husbands, right cheese. They always look at the ho-. The husband of the boyfriend. I I'm surprised thirty percent. This seemed low even you know. Yeah. I mean, that's a nineteen ninety two stats super old. But I bet it somewhere in that will, you know, adults to different and just real quick. It's you know, this is not just an American issue. There are countries around the world that have stalking stalking laws. Yeah. Anti-stalking was I should say it's much easier to list ones that don't have it. Then the ones that do because just in the last couple decades countries have really started take seriously, which is heartening because it says, oh, okay. Good. We've value with. Women the women in our society, and we want to them to feel protected. There's some that just absolutely don't like Cyprus Greece Namibia Spain. They don't anti stalking laws interest for the most part most countries do very frequently. They follow like, a a high profile murder at the hands of stalker Japan. So did take very seriously since I think like two thousand or two thousand one Great Britain's like really well aware of it stalking problem. And they have a really high incidence of men being sought to that really. And then I read an article that France. Sweden and Luxembourg have the highest rates of stocking. And I was like that seems a little weird in the article pointed out, well, these are these are also probably countries where women feel empowered to report writing. Whereas some of these other countries that have very like artificially, low rates of stalking. The EU are probably countries that are a little more macho, and we're women feel like the cops are going to tell him to like feel flattered for the attention. Right, right. Which happens actually, sadly still so are like the like you said originally like the data in the stats on stalking are a really hard to come by. But it's it's basically a universal thing. Well, and it's hard to come by too. Because not everyone can agree on what behaviors even qualifies stalking. There's this one interesting thing that put in here about incompetence to see that. Yeah. Yeah. Not incompetent. Pants with the but anti. Yeah. E N T S. This is a category of Stocker. And this is someone who is so awkward and unaware of social cues norms that their clumsy attempts at initiating relationships feel like stalking, right? They might have some sort of cognitive disability or something like that. Or just may not pick up on social cues and not realize that you don't stop by compliment that lady's dress everyday like don't do it right in the guys like, I'm just being nice. Sure. Or might be like a,
"stalking" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"Hey, everybody. It's Josh, and Chuck, and if you are a fan of stuff blow your mind, and even if you're not you will want to check out the new podcast from Robert Lehman. Joe McCormick called invention? Yeah. It's pretty cool man, if you know those guys from their other show, they kind of bring that knowledge of history and science to what we're calling human techno history of invention exploring everything from a vending machines to chopsticks to the X Ray machine to the guillotine, very very cool stuff. Yeah. They explore the origins and the impacts of inventions, and how even just normal stuff can be used for good and evil. Yeah. And they ended up considering like really cool questions like how does a machine for removing human ED's change the way someone might feel about capital punishment? Yep. So check it out her, but you're gonna love it invention publishes every Monday, and you can listen and subscribe to invention on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever. Are you find podcasts? Go check out invention today. So Chuck member we said like California was the first state to really take seriously. Yeah. Well, LA was the first city to take it seriously. Because at first people thought, oh my God celebrities are in trouble. And now that we've done more research. We know like actually celebrities are the lease stock group, and they're actually the probably the safest of all the stock groups. Yeah. But initially L A really went whole hog on studying stalking. And that's where we got some of our earliest data and understanding of the stalking mentality. They created the threat management unit with some forensic psychiatrists and some security guys, and they came up with basically, some early soccer profiles and one of the first things they figured out as you can roughly categorize stalkers into three different pigeonholes, basically. All right. This is the first one Arado mania. Yes. Right. Which is if you just sound that. Word out. You probably have a pretty good idea. What that means? And that is that is someone who. Feels like those ones feel like they're in love with the person. Those are the ones who who feel like they're in love. But also that the other person loves them, right? Like Letterman's stalker was an Arado maniac person with rata mania. Right. But she also was someone schizophrenia, right? Yeah. All these are co morbid. I guess there's a lot of overlap with mental illness. But from what I've seen depending on the type of stalking. You're engaged in win win an actual diagnosis -able mental illness comes into play this stalking kind of takes back seat to that diagnose -able, mental illness. It's it's like, it's it's a byproduct of it or symptom of the mental illness rather than the the the stocking be main part, you know, what I mean. Yeah. Like if she didn't have schizophrenia, she probably wouldn't have been stalking Letterman. Exactly. But it's it's characterized by a deep profound delusion that that the stalker and the celebrity Vic. Item. Who has no idea the soccer exists at least in. I are are basically bound souls that they have their soulmates. Yeah. Rarely sexual very rarely. It's sometimes it's not even a -serily romantic. But it's so, hyper, romantic, transcends romance. It's just complete and utter delusional obsession, that's Arado mania. Yeah. And this is the one that I mentioned early on which I think very interestingly has an inverse proportion of danger. So the the more distant or unattainable, the relationship like this woman, David Letterman, or really any any this. Liberty cases, the less likely they are to actually injure the victim right in the less likely. They are to ever even meet them face to face. Right. It's usually like Letterman case, you know, like, I don't think he ever met her face to face in an incident. No. But I mean like Shumshere she would have liked to have met him face to face. But like her his in her. Her case is very much an outlier, although because of the medium because it celebrities, we think that's very common that is extremely rare first of all in Iran mania, stalking situation with the celebrity, but one where the person actually tries to physically get in touch with the victim. That's rare. Yeah. Yeah. So Romania's one. That's also the that's the the smallest group from what I understand, right? Yeah. But the most probably press grabby. Yeah. And movie Maki. Yeah. Moving making like deniro's got cornered. Love obsessional. Yeah. That's another one. And that is one that I was talking about with like could be a fleeting acquaintance could be a co worker
"stalking" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"That you can trust in this happens. Oh, much more to women in. It's not. I think these two tissue can kinda just flush down the John. Yep. Because so many of so much of it goes reported. Yes has the big pin? So much of it is stuff that women have just dealt with since the beginning of time like the guy who's a little too hands of your little too creepy or little too forward doesn't take. No on a, you know, ask me out for a date Grandpa's showed up every day. You know, it's just it's sad. I think things are starting to change. But as far as stats go. It's hard to even take those seriously sometimes. Yeah. And before these incidences in the early nineties, it was hard to even get cop sometimes to investigate or like either they didn't have power. They didn't take it seriously in nineteen ninety four the violence against women act, really broadened. Training advocacy counselling. But really like law enforcement giving them broader powers to investigate arrest was a big deal in Joe Biden was actually one of the champions in big supporters of drafting that the violence women act. Yeah. Yeah. So part of our national shame from the shutdown is that that law was allowed to expire in the stocking awareness month, which is January everything about that sucked. Yeah. But it was been signed immediately. Like after like that was one of the first things that happened was they re up to that act as soon as the government went back to work, which I mean, it is a big deal that there is I mean the larger umbrella act, but it doesn't include all sorts of funding for stalking support in resources. And as we'll see if you're being stalked. There's a lot of places for you to turn. But those places need to get federal funding because they're usually pretty small nonprofits that can't float. Selves. Yeah. Two thousand eighteen you wanna talk about another feel-good act the pause act, which had you know, it wasn't just about this. But under that umbrella act. It included threats to your pets. Because that's a big one people a lot of times part of the pattern of stalking. Is you come home, and you find your animal dead fatal attraction right that bunny got boiled? Yep. And not only protecting the pets but grants in funding for shelters to allow you to bring your pet because that's some people rightfully won't leave their pets behind threatened. Yeah. I mean, that's that's a decision. You shouldn't have to make like I can't go to that that home that can protect me because they won't take my dog. Right. And it's not just with with people who are being stalked homeless shelters have the same problems too. There's very few homeless shelters that have accommodations for pets as well for. Sure. So one of the other one of the other big laws came in nineteen ninety six that Clinton signed in which basically made stalking a federal crime. Yeah. It extended protection like restraining orders. Basically, they enjoyed nationwide protection. Like, no matter where you were if you had a restraining order. It was good across the United States. If you went to stock somebody across state lines. It was now a federal crime and the FBI was on you. If you use the mail to stalk somebody to sending letters or it was now a federal crime. So it became a big deal. And we're talking like seriously nineteen nineteen ninety Rebecca Schaeffer was kind with it really started with by ninety four California had the first law ninety six the feds head a law, and I believe within a couple years after that every state in the union had a law. So sorry, California had a law that same year in nineteen ninety and by nineteen Ninety-four every state in America had anti-stalking law. It happened like that fast. Yeah. In the nineteen ninety the LAPD actually started the threat. Management unit which was a big deal. Because now you have actual unit of dedicated officers that will study behavior in trying to Termine risk and things like that. Whereas before it was just like, yeah. Like, we'll get to it. Yeah. We'll send we'll send a couple of our heavy hitter. Cops over to to tell them to leave you alone. Send over Russell Crowe. Yeah. It's a great character. So advocate for vendettas in like extrajudicial. I think like beating down but said, it's a great characters. It was pretty great in that movie. When he would stick up for the abused women. Go beat down those jerks. Good character. I agree. So Chuck, we kind of we kind of kind of defined stalking here there Bolus Huckabee like what some of the behaviors of that stalkers have like there. There are some set things that just about any Stocker willing in the it's basically a pattern of stalking behavior, which was really surprising because. When we talk about soccer psychology a little bit. You'll see there's a lot of different people in a lot of different personality types that engage in socking. They all kind of tend to do the same stuff. Yeah. And one of the first things that they'll do is just show up where you are. Yeah. Joing up now, obviously. Calling and text like texting a big one in social media harassment and stuff like that. But I mean that falls, I guess under cyber stalking. It does. So cyber stalking kinda deserves its own episode. Yeah. But it so it's his own thing where you might just be targeted right by someone. You've never met before just found you on the internet, and they're using the internet, right? If we to stalk you in harass, you may be even extort you that cyber stocky, but also using emailer. You know location tracking or spyware to stock under the traditional definition. That's also technically cyber stalking. It's like two things yet scary, though, with all those personal things that people have online now, it's certainly not like the old days. Yeah. People can see so much about your life. Even if you think you've protected yourself in that way. Yeah. We'll do a whole episode Cyrus talking. Okay. So they're showing up. There's non. Consensual communication. You kinda hit on emails texts letters. It can be an apparently a lot of stalkers will communicate in ways that they think is totally obvious to their victim. The victim has no idea what they're saying. Like, some examples I saw in real life where like fingernail clippings, a stack of Texas monthly magazines, a rat a dead rat wrapped in cellophane that second magazines had no idea what that meant. It was like a it was like a message. No one knows what it meant. Except of the stalker is the only person that made sense to. Gotcha. But the stalker felt like they were communicating is someone. Stack of magazines or left them outside of their house. Gotcha. Gotcha. Yeah. Obviously, you don't even have to like like if you could be a co worker that you see every day in the office, and they can stock you at work, even though they're also supposed to be in the same office as you right? Like, the the line is very fine. They can someone can stop by your desk too much and pay too many compliments again that overlaps with harassment too. But like if you go to your bosses, and you're like, hey, I wanna be in a different part of the building. Because this guy's really giving me the creeps, right? Then he start showing up over there. Every day that stalking right? Absolute, you know. Yep. There's also threatening family members. Friends anybody that the person cares about pets making threats whether explicit or otherwise and all of these combined. They can be separate. They can be. They can be repeating the same one over and over again it can be out random assortment. There's also very freak. Currently like trespassing break into your house breaking into your car, just basically getting into your stuff, and then sometimes making it's like you can't tell how they got in there. But you just know they were there read one account of a woman who is being stalked and like she went and unlocked or car, and there was a rose on the seat the passenger seat. And she's like how did this even get in here? She had no idea how the guy got in there. But he got in there. So just just knowing that this person is watching you could could show up wherever you are. And can get to you is all these things that combine that makes stocking so insidious yet. And it's unlike the effect goes beyond just psychological harm of which that's obviously the worst part of it. But like financially you can you can have missed work in lost wages, and you might have to move like people have picked up and moved house at great loss. Changed jobs. Changed jobs at a, you know, salary loss like it has like a real financial impact as well. Yeah. And you were saying like how technology enables people the stock. So so much more easily. Now, that's a big one. Like, if you especially if you were already if you had a relationship with your stalker, previously, right? And they had access to your computer or your phone. Most stalking advocate groups say if you can afford it get a new computer get a new phone as those are compromised, and that that's too expensive for a lot of people. So there's some tricks and stuff you can deal with her work with if you can't replace it, which will get to it's hard to research this without feeling of unease for sure, you know, and just the injustice of it like considered you were nothing, but but passing Lee friendly to a stranger and all of a sudden, they're doing all of this to you and disrupting your life like this in robbing you of your security and. You have no idea what they're going to do next about his own fares. It gets. Yeah. And I think we'll probably take a break now. But in come back and talk about the different types. But, you know, one of the type specifically is like the photo Matt guy or you know, the casual acquaintance, the the Bank teller or or you're the the Banca customer and the Bank teller is the victim. Right. These short little communications that someone who has mental illness may be in his prone to this. You get a two nice of have a great day and a smile. To say, then that sends them down the road scary man, because you don't want to like stop being friendly to people know, or should we all I think we should the only way to protect ourselves. All right. We're gonna take a break, and we're gonna talk more specifically about the different types of stalkers right after this. Hey,
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"Most serial killers don't make any effort to involve the media or investigating. They're very secretive. They don't want to tension. They almost want their crimes to go on notice. But the idea of committing a crime, and then calling the police and bragging about it. That's a whole 'nother level of terror. Dear editor, this is only expecting. Do not print this cipher by the afternoon of Friday. First of August. I will go on to kill rampage Friday night. L cruise around all weekend killing people in the night and move on to kill again. The best part of it is that when I die. I'll be reborn in paradise. And all that I have killed will become my slaves. The creators of Atlanta monster come season two. This is monster zodiac killer. Listen and subscribe at apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app. All right, Chuck, so. America's way Letterman's being stalked. Rebecca Schafer's killed Theresa Saldana went through this. Let's do something about this. Finally. Yeah. And stuff to get good statistics. Because. You know, it depends on what state you're in. What the definition of stalking is whether or not a cry, and this is one of the big problems is the actual crimes committed like now stalking is a crime. But before that, it was like, you know, it's not necessarily crime. Like, you said to be waiting for someone in a parking lot. Right. It's creepy. Yeah. But allows him broken or if laws are broken their little misdemeanors, usually like trespassing. Yes. So it was always a sort of legal gray area until you know, like you said the high profile incidents happened. Right. And that's when the DOJ DO g the DO double G when snoop Dogg. The DOJ went get serious, and they created a legal definition of engaging in of course, of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to fear for his or her safety or the safety of others or suffer substantial emotional distress. And that definition is really important because it says cause a reasonable person to fear. And while that's open to interpretation. It's not a it doesn't say like there has to be literal vocalized threat to to count. Right. You know, like they don't have to say like I'm going to get you in in you know, where you for raincoat. Right. Like, you can just feel that threat if you're reasonable person. Yeah. In that in that counts. Thank god. Because that's that really opens opens it up, you know. Right. And it doesn't even have to be the threat doesn't even have to be. A physical threat either could be like I'm going to make up lies about you on the internet, or I'm going to go tell your parents, you know, all the all the like stuff. We'd right. Yeah. They're like we did drugs like there's all sorts of different ways, you can threaten somebody like guard violence gonna trample your flower bed. Exactly, there's a lot of ways you can threaten and intimidate somebody in all of these things each of these axes considered harassment. I was looking up to try to figure out. What is the distinction between harassment and stalking, and it's really tough to find an obvious distinction from what I could get a harassment are the individual acts that people do when they're stalking and stalking as a pattern of harassment frequently escalates overtime yet. And it also obviously blurs lines with domestic violence like it is. Yeah. And I think you can you can even say it is a form of domestic violence. Definitely depending. Yeah. No the person at all, right? The minute doesn't count. Yeah. There's a lot of categories of stalking. We'll get into a second. But domestic violence is definitely one of the cradles. That stalking is born from yet. And one of the really sad things about it is there's. A lot of times it it just there's no possible. Good result. Like. Oftentimes, a Stocker might stop. But then start back up like too often. The result is like someone's death or a physical attack. It can't be or there's just no closure resolution. Right. Like, even the stalker stops that doesn't mean that the victim is like, okay, my life back to worry about that guy anymore. Like that the the trust the security all of those things that that most of us just take for granted on a daily basis of been lost. And they're not just immediately regained because it's like, you said with soccer's the behavior can be discontinued. And then it can start back up again out of the blue. And so you never know when they're going to pop back by or it probably freaks you out even more when they stopped communicating because what are they doing? Right. What are they up to? Yeah. And even if they get even if you're stalker gets thrown in prison or gets hit by a bus like there can be irreparable, psychological damage done to you. You may never be able to trust another man or woman again. Been in in have a hard time finding a love relationship that
"stalking" Discussed on Stuff You Should Know
"This is Ron burgundy telling you to listen to my podcast. Here's a little something to wet your appetite. You know, we have we have. So the whole crews here. Okay. All right. Okay. So you defecate I was reduced to my basic animal form. Romburg any podcast available wherever podcasts are found. Welcome to stuff, you should know from how stuff works dot com. Pay him. Welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles w Chuck Bryant those, Jerry. And this is stuff, you should know. Jerry Qripoli in the background. Right. She just has stopped working in this staring at us right now. It's right. Which is not at all funny. No. It's not. It's like we can hit around about this stuff. But nothing about it is funny. No, it's really like. But we try to make light of things that are uncomfortable. That's what we do. Yeah. We did one on komo's once member. That's right. That was hysterical. Right. Like, Leslie Nielsen Priscilla Presley coming up from platoon in the naked gun. You remember? Oh, yeah. Just laughing. Right. What's naked gun, two and a half the other day? Oh, yeah. So hold up hold up. And then some. Yeah. Especially when you've met the director personally. Oh, right. That's right, man. We met him a thousand years ago, maybe maybe five thousand years ago. It was a while. So Chuck, we have a good hundred fifty pages on stalking here to lot. You say like, no, not funny. Absolutely. It's not funny. And it's really tough to put yourself in the situation of a person who's being stalked. Yeah. But there are there's a lot of quotes from people who compare it to what's a form of abuse. It might not be physical although a frequently can turn into something physical or violent yet. There's a lot of blurred lines here. But even if it never gets physical. At all. It is a form of abuse is a form of psychological abuse track. Did torment wherein you the victim feel like your life has been infected it affects every part of your life, and your constantly you feel like you're constantly being watched in as one victims put it like not in any sort of flattering way. Yeah. I had the most minimal form of stalking happened to me in college. And I cannot imagine what like Assyria stalking situation might feel like considering how that made me feel really. Yeah. Wow. They're not, you know, very minimal trust me. I'm not saying like, I know feels man like, you know, a Gertrude girl that I was dating in college, right and didn't date anymore. Couldn't get enough. Chuck. I mean a few times like banging on my bedroom window in the middle of the night kind of thing like come out here and talk to me, right? That kind of thing. Well, I mean that is that is stalking happens repeatedly. If especially if she had like escalated over time. Yeah. This didn't really escalate and it was only a couple of times. Then that would probably qualify as what's called harassment. Yeah. Harassment, but I will say this. I moved to New Jersey just a few months after that. Because that was the end of college. And that's what I did. And I didn't go because of that. But it was definitely like, well, there's also the benefit of moving to New Jersey and one week into being a New Jersey we lived out in the woods. I had a dream that bear came out of the woods. And pounded on my windows. In like pounded on my door until it fell down the bear came in Israel. I woke up, and it was like, well, I know what that means. Talk. Yeah. The Blair the bear her name is not Blair, by the way, that wasn't a Freudian slip. The bear. Definitely like resemble turn someday. It will her name wasn't player. But she looked exactly like Blair from facts of life wish I wouldn't have broken up with her shoes. Now to be fair. Also, this was I was young immature in probably wasn't the best breaker upper. Oh, not say a deserved it. But Well, I I really think that that's a really that's a good point. You've made like seventeen good points in there. Okay. So number one men get stock to sure it happened in depending on where you live. It can happen. Pretty close to in. Equal frequencies women being stocked. Although I don't think anywhere. It's equal. I think almost across the board. If not totally across the board women. Are stocked more frequently the men are right? But men can be stocked pretty much evenly by women and other men. Correct. Not just in the the realm of like ex lover's, whether you're hetero or straight. But also like you might be stocked. And if you're a woman, you might be stopped by other women to someone who's jealous jer angry resentful of in or arrival or like single, white female, right? Exactly somebody who's just become obsessed with you. So that was one thing men can be stalked, and that's very important. But but also you said like that you weren't the best breaker. Upper and there's a lot of there's a lot of perceptions like misconceptions of misperceptions about what stalking is what the victims of stalking. Doer don't deserve what they did or didn't do wrong. And from everything that's kind of merging over study of this for the last few decades. If you're stalking victim, you basically did nothing wrong. But everybody assumed you did something wrong. Like you didn't break up with them properly. Yeah. Signals or maybe you flirted or your nice or whatever. Or maybe you're making a big deal out of all this. When really it's not the guy dislikes you or some maybe you're to seeking attention. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe got it in your head from watching Sally Jesse Raphael. Yeah. We're not saying these things are true. By the way. This is a lot of the misconception yet that people who are victims of stalking run into even from law enforcement. Luckily, it's changed dramatically and the the laws an law enforcement or taking it far more seriously than they did before. But it's definitely. Still not automats like, oh, you're being stuck great. Let me here's how they help you. Well, and especially I think of a certain age group like your grandparents may think it's romantic there's this. Great hampton. Yeah joke. Yeah. Remember him? He was okay. So Hampton yacht was saying. He was like our grandparents generation were not it was like my Granddad said, you know, for three hundred ninety days in a row. I went to your grandmother's working I asked her to marry him finally on days. She said, yes, it's funny. Like, yeah. I mean to stalking his a, and we'll go ahead and tell you straight up. It's it's a new term. That's only been around for a few decades old behavior. It's behavior, of course. Yes. It's just we're finally waking up to the right people. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks granddad. So let's talk about the history of the understanding of stalking. It was actually not until the late eighties that the world really started to kinda wake up to this whole thing after a couple of high profile killings. Yes. Celebrity obviously, if you know if you wanna get something, sadly in the news, if you wanna get something in the news, it's having a celebrity undergo that or be victim to that. Is the best way. Right. Exactly. And that did happen a few times. Well, first of all there'd been a lot of movies over the years. Like a lot and Robert deniro is in a lot of them. Yeah. Victim