35 Burst results for "Stalin"
The Charlie Kirk Show
Stella Morabito on Her New Book "The Weaponization of Loneliness"
"Welcome to the program. Oh, thank you so much for having me, Charlie. It's great to be here. So tell us about your book. I'm kind of reminded of Aristotle's famous writings about how tyrants seek to make people unfamiliar with one another closing gymnasiums in schools and place of congregation. Tell us about your book, the weaponization of loneliness. Thank you. Well, basically it's about isolation as a political weapon. And on every level of tyranny, you'll see it operate. I mean, whether it's just a two person partnership where one is gaslighting the other, or it's a playground bully, or a cult leader, like Jim Jones, who isolates everybody in the jungle, or all the way up to your dictator, your world class dictator, like a Mao or a Stalin, who basically creates these reigns of terror in order to create fear that basically causes a lot of social distrust and isolation. And you know, obviously, human beings when we have happy families when we have strong friendships and all of that. We, you know, we're not a susceptible to those kinds of fears. Yes. But once we're isolated, we are. And this is something that tyrants have practiced throughout modern history.
The Charlie Kirk Show
They Win When We Shut Ourselves Up...
"The amazing thing. And I'm sure we're going to have some questions about censorship. Charlie, I'm so tired of being shut up. I'm being tired of being suppressed. I agree. I think that the social media company suppressing us is a big deal. I think that we're seeing a lot of censorship, but the number one form of censorship and Stalin wrote about this in his private journals. He says, I do not have to shut up anybody if I can get people to shut up themselves. And that's what's happening. You know how you know you're living in a totalitarian country. The amount of times people come up to meet at a coffee shop, but they have to look over their shoulders before they say anything. They look over and they look over. I was listening to an old tape of Dennis prager in 1995. He said, boy, when I visited the Soviet Union, it was a mark of totalitarianism because people were over his shoulders in 1995. He said, I'm so glad in America. We don't have that. We do now. So every one of us can make a decision that we're going to be the same person in public that we are in private. And I'm going to preempt the inevitable question. But Charlie, what about my grades? What about my job? What about my Friends? If those things matter more than your civilization than truth, then fine. Lie your way through your existence. Okay? I think telling the truth matters a lot more than having fake Friends, grades that do not matter, or maybe a temporary income where you can end up finding a job or you can actually be who you are. I think that's more important now. You might disagree. I say, Charlie. I have to provide for my family. Then you do you. I'm not telling you what to do. I'm simply creating the binary. They win when we shut ourselves up.
Mark Levin
Mark Levin Responds to Ross Douthat's 'The Tucker Realignment' Column
"There is a columnist out there called Ross Dutt Isn't that his name mister producer To talk to thought whatever Used to write it national review I think he used to work at her Did you really matter But he's hit the big times now He's at the New York Times the Holocaust denying Stalin supporting Castro promoting New York Times for some reason people think that's cool And he writes this piece about our friend Tucker Carlson But he can't resist taking a shot at yours truly You know it's amazing People who write about me they've never talked to me they've never met me clearly they don't listen to the show on a regular basis And so they promote their own viewpoint They project So what he says is in my case the reason I support Trump is because the audience did How many times have I talked to you about issues where you disagreed with me Many if not most of you disagree with me on Ukraine Do I switch my position on Ukraine No We agree to disagree and I give you my reasons and it's not the only issue we talk about and we have a general understanding and share these crucially important principles about saving the nation It's okay everybody in the family all the friends they don't all agree with me either It's okay Many of them do some don't So what I tell people why I think what I think
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Second Amendment Protects You Against Government Tyranny
"Question is about the Second Amendment and also policing. And I've been discussing with my friend. And then we figure it will be the best if we ask you. So we all know the purpose of the Second Amendment is not for sporting hunting. It's actually for standing up against a government turned tyrannical. That's correct. So let's say if today some law enforcement agency Dave turned tyrannical and they've been harassing people type stuff, do you think it's the right of the people to use their arms against these government agencies that has harassing people and that is overreaching with your power? Obviously, it depends. I think we're far away from that. And I hope we stay far away from that. But you are correct. The intent of the Second Amendment is not for duck hunting. It's not even for self defense. It is to make sure that if a CCP like power ever tries to colonize Hong Kong, the people are able to defend their right, their moral right to self government. If every single person in Hong Kong had an AR-15, the CCP would have thought twice in three times and not have gone in and just annexed the entire sort of country. But let's just say city of Hong Kong. All throughout history, we see a pattern. We see bad guys that are able to do really bad things because people do not have a ability to defend themselves against their armies. It is not a popular argument, but it is a true argument. The Second Amendment is the one that protects all the other amendments. We need to be able to have a power balance between the federal government and the people. Ask anybody that lived under totalitarian communism over the last hundred years. Stalin, Mao, chesky, I know we have some Romanians here somewhere. They could tell you all about it. What do they always do? They take the guns, they confiscate them, and they try to limit your other freedoms and liberties.
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
Sebastian Talks to 'Just The News' Founder John Solomon
"Now the head of his own media organization. It's called just the news dot com and he is of course our good friend John Solomon. John, welcome to America first one on one. Yeah, great to be with you. So I presume, given what you've done in your decades of work as a true journalist, as the author of most recently of this book, let's put it up on the screen so everybody can order it, fall out, nuclear bribes, Russian spies, and the Washington lies that enriched the Clinton and Biden dynasties. Yesterday's events didn't come as too much of a surprise to you, sadly. No, I think we've been inching towards this moment for 7 to ten years. The idea that we would create weaponize local prosecutors that George show us movement to get local prosecutors, fashioned in his own ideal ideology. The weaponization of federal law enforcement that we first saw with the Russia collusion case and continued. The ability to create false realities, which we saw throughout the 2020 election when intelligence community leaders like John Brennan told us that the Hunter Biden laptop was disinformation even though it wasn't. Or that one Hunter Biden had done in Ukraine was legit when it wasn't. And I think the ultimate evolution of that would be to get us into that kangaroo court sort of moment where a political score that should be resolved by American voters is instead inject it into the court system by a prosecutor who upgrades a misdemeanor to a felony 5 years after the statute of limitations had expired. I think Stalin and Lenin are looking going, wait, why didn't we think of that? And I think this moment has just been a slow train wreck unfolding in yesterday was the first crash moment.
Dennis Prager Podcasts
A Dark Day in America
"I never thought that I would live to see the United States evolve this rapidly. And the dramatically in this clearly. As many of you know, my field of study at graduate school was communism. I learned Russian in order to understand what was going on in the Soviet Union to read proved every day. I did not study Russian in order to converse or to read us the. I specifically wanted to read. Prabda. And I studied Russian history, the Russian Revolution, Stalin, khrushchev, bridge there. I studied that very avidly. I would say at this moment, you do not have to have knowledge of the Russian Revolution, and the takeover of the Soviet Union originally, Russia. By communists in order to understand communism, you have to understand what is going on at this time. In the United States of America and Canada for good measure. And to a certain degree in other Western countries. You are living the textbook that I studied or the textbooks that I studied. You have no idea how all of this has come as a surprise to me. If you'd have told me in graduate school, that I am studying the American future, not just the Russian past or the Hungarian or polish or East German, or check. Or Bulgarian, or Romanian, I would have thought you're out of your mind. And I would have been wrong.
Mark Levin
Mark Levin: The Democrat Party Is the Party of Lawlessness
"And I'm telling the Patriots in my audience spend I want them to listen very very carefully This is the usual politics This is what Stalin would do and Mao would do and Lenin would do and Castro would do The Democrat party has become a radicalized party it pushes a Marxist agenda it does not believe in Law & Order It believes on the lawlessness And so just because you have somebody who's elected as a prosecutor appointed as a prosecutor you've seen it in the tyrannical regimes before and even today And this is exactly what that is They go through the motions of a justice system The motions of the grand jury the motions of due process that's none of this That's none of this And also notice how this ban could care less about the impact it has on the nation This frivolous case the impact on the entire nation the impact on the entire Republican Party the impact on the general election should he be nominated that he did this on behalf of the Democrat party He did it on behalf of Biden that's why I don't know It's going to crash or cheering that they're cheering That's why the media is cheering that they're cheering that they are now using the instrumentalities of a law Against the people and the people's will And this means that the and I want to be very clear That the United States of America that we have all believed in as of an hour ago in this respect does not exist
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Gov. Scott Walker: Free Speech Should Be Revered on College Campuses
"You know, it used to be governor on the college campuses. And I went to school at the university of Iowa. It's pretty much a liberal hotbed. You know, Madison. You had the same situation there. If someone who did not fit the left wing narrative came to speak on campus, there might be some pickets outside. There might be some protests. There might be complaints about how public dollars are being spent from a speaker's bureau, but it's nothing like today where these folks try to stifle free speech through all means whether it is physical violence bomb threats, et cetera, I really am concerned about the future of free speech at places where, by definition, we want to have voices expressed. Yes, free speech is something guaranteed in our constitution. The right given to us by God, but defined in the U.S. Constitution. It's why when we go to court, we always win in these instances, but we shouldn't have to go to court because of all places, a college campus should be where it's revered. Yet today in most college campuses, public and private institutions alike, it is under attack. If you are anybody right of Stalin, your voice is stifled on campus, whether you're a speaker, whether you're trying to put together the organization, whether you're just a student trying to hear them. I mean,
Dennis Prager Podcasts
Alvin Bragg and His Bag of Tricks
"Manhattan's DA Manhattan DA Bragg is determined to snooker a grand jury into indicting Trump. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime was the infamous boast of Joseph Stalin's ruthless secret police chief, Lavrentiy Beria. His modus operandi was to target any man the Soviet dictator chose and then find or fabricate a crime against him. Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, has taken a page out of Stalin's playbook and targeted Donald Trump. Driven by personal and political animus, the DA presumed the former president must be guilty of something. It wasn't just a matter of devoting enough time and resources to hunt down the crime. Failing to find one Bragg copied berry is paradigm and simply dreamed one up.
Dennis Prager Podcasts
Manhattan DA Bragg Takes a Page Out of Stalin's Playbook
"Manhattan's DA Manhattan DA Bragg is determined to snooker a grand jury into indicting Trump. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime was the infamous boast of Joseph Stalin's ruthless secret police chief, Lavrentiy Beria. His modus operandi was to target any man the Soviet dictator chose and then find or fabricate a crime against him. Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, has taken a page out of Stalin's playbook and targeted Donald Trump. Driven by personal and political animus, the DA presumed the former president must be guilty of something. It wasn't just a matter of devoting enough time and resources to hunt down the crime. Failing to find one Bragg copied berry is paradigm and simply dreamed one up. That is exactly what has happened. The man spent a hundred something thousand, I don't even remember what the sum is. To have a woman that he had a one night stand with, not say anything. And he's being charged with a felony. I know, well, you know, he didn't exactly report the fund as the business expense that he should have. I mean, my Friends, there was almost no person in business. No person, let's put it this way. Who earns an income who could not be indicted if somebody, I'm not saying convicted, all brag cares about is a mugshot.
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
Joe DiGenova and Victoria Toensing Discuss Allegations Against Them
"You see what's happened in the last 7 years, Joan Victoria. Well, let's talk about what you've experienced. You were targeted by the FBI. You would targeted by the DoJ in such a way that your client attorney privileges were trampled upon, and you found out as a result of a search warrant to take your electronic devices. That your information in a previous period, the year earlier. In secretly to have been secretly taken off the cloud. So your communications. They had all my have been taken. They already had all my attorney client privileges. What happened to the case again? So they were trying to find out what you and Rudy and others. That was for the time period, 2019, when Rudy and I were talking to whistleblowers in Ukraine. Oh, just the former prosecutor generals. You know, like an attorney general here. Yeah, the guy who's investigating. And his predecessor. We were talking to both of them about representation and we were going to fly to Ukraine to talk with them and meet with them to see if they want to representation. When we were told that there were threats against us. And you were accused of being in violation of the foreign agents registration. But I didn't have a quiet. But they couldn't even tell you who you were supposed to be representing. And then what happened to that accusation against you? Nothing to see here after 18 months. But, but with the statement that they do not choose to watch. At this time, we're not going to be no criminal charges at this point. At this time, which is Stalin ask. But they were trying to do, which is what the whole thing was designed to do was shut besides finding out what information Victoria and Rudy had against the bidens. They wanted to shut them up. To shut them up from not discussing anything publicly. And then when they found when they clearly knew right from the beginning, that there was no criminal law violation, they abuse the criminal law process in order to get access to more information. Once that didn't work, so they said, well, let's try to shut them up further. We'll inform the judge that we don't need we don't need a person anymore to review all the attorney client privilege information. So after we paid for it, and there are going to be no criminal charges at this time to make everybody think that there could be some later to shut everybody up. Well, people are not going to shut up. And they're not going to stop talking about this. And when it's appropriate, and when we get ourselves organized, there's going to be legal action against all the people who were involved in this. And
Mark Levin
Ron DeSantis: Coming Out of the Ivy League More Conservative Than Ever
"Was kind of those rust belt values that raised me I get to Yale I had no idea what I was getting into I didn't even know colleges were liberal I mean I was like 18 years old I show up my first day And in Florida we would wear things like Jean shorts flip flops and a T-shirt so I show up my first day wearing that And you've got kids from Andover and groton and I was a fish out of water And it was a major major culture shock I wasn't like a refined conservative in terms of politics because I was mostly into sports and things like that But you start sitting in some of these classrooms and even though one of Yale's mottos is for God for country for Yale said in the classroom attacking religion attacking God attacking the United States I'm sitting in class and they're saying that the U.S. was to blame for the Cold War not Joseph Stalin So this is the and I had never experienced that because growing up in dunedin I didn't know if people were a Republican or Democrat You know you had both of them but everyone kind of believed in the core American principles And so that was my exposure to the left And I think what it did for me was it was so different from what I thought was appropriate that I wasn't influenced by it in terms of it pulling me in that direction I rebuild the other way So by the time I got through college and law school I was definitely set Although when I was running for Congress I kind of tell the story in the book I was green I had never run before You know I had an impressive resume I had served in Iraq and done things So there were things that conservative primary voters would like But you know you see Yale and Harvard that is like people say liberal elitist stuff And so the question was how do I prove that I'm actually mean what I say And I was like listen how many people that you know go up to Washington They say they're going to do these things And then the swamp co opts them and they end up not falling principle Well let's look at me I got through Yale and Harvard and came out more conservative than when I went in The swamp's going to have nothing on that and they appreciated that
America First with Sebastian Gorka Podcast
Hillsdale Professor David Azerrad on What It Means to Be a Man
"The definition? What is the proper definition of a man? What things must it contain? The first word that comes to mind for me is duty. Yeah. It's responsibility. I mean, you know, to the point about how feminized we are, Jordan Peterson becomes an international sensation. I don't mean to take away from him too much, but by basically telling young men to make their bed. It's stunning. It's the idea that a modest soft spoken. Canadian. Canadian. Academic, because he takes a stance against speech police in Canada, becomes the warrior of masculinity. Tells you where we're at. Exactly. His message to young men, which resonated so much with him. You know, the most interesting thing about Peterson to me is he says his audience is overwhelmingly young men. It shows the craving still in the human soul. To hear a message of responsibility, IE, not just claiming rights, although it is manly to assert your rights if they're being trampled. You know, my favorite line in any founding document is the 5th grievance leveled against the king of the Declaration of Independence. For dissolving repeatedly houses of assembly, he has repeatedly dissolved houses assembly why for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people. In America, we don't just declare our rights. We oppose with manly firmness, those who violate them. You know, talk is cheap. Read the Syrian constitution if you want to see a great declaration of rights. Or the stalins. What makes America different is asserting these rights. So I don't mean to say there's rights are bad, but the message today is claim things for yourself, you know, give me this free college free healthcare. And then of course, always excuses, right? It's never my fault.
Dennis Prager Podcasts
The Phony “Fact Checkers” of a Company Called Newsguard
"Is an amazing and horribly amazing thing how much free speech is shut down in this country. NewsGuard, something new to all of you is due to us. Is a perfect example. Of the Stalin type apparatuses that are at work to shut down in the name of misinformation. Marissa striatus CEO of PragerU, we have been affected by them. You mentioned Marissa that The New York Times, of course, all left wing sources I presume get a hundred organic green light. I was reading yesterday that the Columbia journalism review has a scathing article, which I am amazed that it does. About how The New York Times lied about Russian collusion for years, just out and out lied. And there was no response from The New York Times. This is the Columbia journalism review. You think NewsGuard will give a yellow or red light to The New York Times. Of course not. They're both functionaries of the left. So what could prager you do? Why are you coming on to tell people about this? So as you always say, we fight, we fight because we have to fight whether we win or not. I mean, this is a very big site that we're taking on. But we have no other choice. And we've positioned ourselves in a place where we fight for America. We fight for freedom of speech and for clarity. And for those who are listening now, I'm sure that they're wondering what can they do and also how can get they get more information about this. There's a lot of details. A lot of information that is worth looking into. So I want to invite everybody to our website to trigger you dot com. So you can see in your own eyes the screenshots of where the funding is coming from, who is involved. How are they using their connections to exert power and influence on Americans also in schools, by the way, they have a partnership with the largest teachers unions in America. They have 1.7 million teachers using NewsGuard as a filter for the type of information that is going into classrooms. And so if you're curious about it, go to prager U dot com and learn more.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What Do the World's Worst Leaders Have in Common?
"I were to ask you, what does Mao say tongue Hitler Mussolini? Stalin and Pol Pot, what do they all have in common? Now you might say, oh, they were all had some form of Marxist or totalitarian impulses. Yeah, that's true, but there's something else they have in common. There's something else that the most murderous members of the world community, the world leadership community, the 20th century, had in common, and each one of them did not believe at a fundamental level that the eyes of God were upon their actions and were judging them. They did not believe that there was a sovereign that there was a divine creator that was watching what they were doing. Now, interestingly enough, this is beautifully depicted in a film that I watched several times growing up and the main kind of message went over my head as I watched it. So Woody Allen film, it's not very well known. It's called crimes and misdemeanors. It's beautifully well done. Dennis prager agrees because he mentioned it in his speech. I was like, wow, that's so beautifully put. Where the whole idea is, how would you act if you did not believe that the eyes of God were upon your actions? And the movie basically makes the argument you would murder and get away with it. And that is the story of the 20th century. If you did not believe, if you did not at least that some idea had the fear that God was judging you or an idea of a God what would you do? So now we look at Davos right now. Klaus Schwab, Justin Trudeau. The heads of state from around the world. I must ask the question how many of the people right now in Davos that are talking about changing human beings as they are and transforming them, creating transhumans. How many of them that are talking about an insect diet? That's one of the things that you will own nothing and you will be happy. How many of them believe actually believe it? That not that they say it, but they believe it at a fundamental level that there is a creator that there is a divine that there is a transcendent force that is watching their actions. Now,
The Eric Metaxas Show
Marc Morano Explains How We Arrived at 'The Great Reset'
"Some perspective if you can on how that happened because I think the reason people like me were a little bit slow to pick up on it because we thought, well, this has never happened. There's no precedent for this kind of thing. In our nation, and we can pretty much trust people even if they're on the different side of the political spectrum. They're not going to do anything crazy. But they did. They did. In fact, well, in the book, I go back to 1913 in the U.S.. Woodrow Wilson's administration was when they first had this ideology, if you will, of the administrative state ruled by credentialed experts over all aspects of your life. And keep in mind, it wasn't done as an evil mastermind plot. This was presented as, you know, people aren't educated enough. We can actually have experts running most aspects of their lives and we can have an unelected bureaucrats literally in credentialed experts managing everything from nationalizing as well. The economy from agriculture to energy to food. All the way through. And this was seen as a positive benefit. Now, ebbed and flowed throughout the years. In the 1930s, Roosevelt had a kitchen cabinet adviser Stuart Chase, who actually proposed an early version of this great reset, literally nationalization of energy stopping your government control of news and propaganda, his words. And he actually said, why should the Soviets have all the fun? And this was, of course, during the time when the Joseph Stalin was seen as this great reformer and Russia and all the progressives were very excited. So you fast forward and what happened is if you get into the 70s well, particularly the 90s and the last decade and this previous decade, you have a lot of these same progressives now replacing Russia with China. So
ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes
Martin Dugard: Writing Multiple Books at the Same Time
"A question born out of my fondness for books, my interests in how authors do things, having written books myself. I have a hard time, shall we say splitting, where my mind is at. In other words, I really need a focus. Maybe I'm not a good walk and chew gum at the same time kind of person, but you have been writing these books with mister O'Reilly, you're writing these additional books, it seems to me that you may be writing one book while you're doing research for another. I mean, it's not as linear, is it, as some may expect? It's not linear. And it's not even, for instance, the other most recent killing book is taking the legends and that came out. I think it's September. And taking Berlin came out in November. And they both had very similar deadlines. So I literally wrote both of them at the same time. So I spent the morning with my own book and I would take a break. I go to a workout, I'd just go walk around just something like that and I come back in the morning and I would go jubilantly stuff so I go in the morning and be focused on Georgia's Patton, general George zukov, Stalin, Churchill, and take that little break and come back and focus on Elvis Presley Muhammad Ali. So it's pretty intense, it's just a kind of hyper focus. That's where there are no windows in my office. Shut myself in. Close out the world. And my butt in the seat and start doing the research.
Dennis Prager Podcasts
Time Is a Built-In Protector From Grief
"First of all, I want to say, I'm sorry. I told you that off the air, but it's just yeah, I know, thank you. It is so tragic. And the tragedy is, it is so tragic, he, at 58, or whatever his age is 59, 60, to be left, I mean, he loved her. I know this. Do they have kids? Yeah, they have terrific kids, by the way. How old? Early 20s. Oh, God. I mean, obviously, I'm in my early, I can't imagine losing my mom. Oh, that, since we're on dark subjects, let me just tell you, when people speak about, let's say, Stalin killed 20 to 40 million. All right, which is inconceivable to us. We can't conceive of a million anything. It's true. But people don't talk about the residue. Let's say it's compromised at 30 million. Every one of the 30 million had friends in relatives. Yes. The pain is so enormous. We can't begin. It's
Lex Fridman Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on Lex Fridman Podcast
"You're saying, maybe easier in some ideologies than others, but it's not clear that somehow one ideology definitely leads to mass murder and not exactly. I wonder how many factors what factors, how much of it is a single charismatic leader, how much of it is the configuration of multiple historical events, how much of it is just dumb the opposite of luck. Do you have a sense where if you look at a moment in history, predict looking at the factors, whether something bad is going to happen here. When you look at Iraq when Saddam Hussein first took power, well, you could, or you can go even farther back in history. Would you be able to predict? So he said, you already kind of answered that with Stalin saying there's no way you could have predicted that in the early 20s. Was that always the case you basically can't predict? It's pretty much always the case. In other words, I mean, history is a wonderful discipline and way of looking at life in the world in retrospect, meaning it happened. It happened. And we know it happened. And it's too easy to say sometimes. It happened because it had to happen that way. It almost never has to happen that way. And things, so I very much am of the school of the emphasizes, you know, contingency. And choice and difference and different paths and not necessarily a path that has to be. It has to be followed. And sometimes you can warn about things. I mean, you can think, well, something's going to happen. And usually usually the way it works. Let me just give you one example. I'm thinking about an example right now, which was the one you could have, you know, which came in the 1990s. And genocide in Bosnia..
Lex Fridman Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on Lex Fridman Podcast
"Instead what happens is that Ukraine turns into the Ukrainian countryside turns into what my now past colleague who died several years ago, Robert conquest called a vast belson. And by that, you know, the images of bodies just lying everywhere. You know? People dead. And dying. You know, of hunger, which is, by the way, as you know, I've spent a lot of time studying genocide. I don't think there's anything worse than dying of hunger from what I have read. I mean, you see terrible ways that people die, right? But dying of hunger is just such a horrible, horrible thing. And so, for example, we know there were many cases of cannibalism in the countryside because there wasn't anything to eat. People were eating their own kids. And Stalin knew about this. And again, you know, we started with this question a little bit earlier. There's not a sign of remorse. Not a sign of pity. Not a sign of any kind of human emotion. That normal people would have. What about the opposite of joy for teaching them a lesson? I don't think there's joy. I'm not sure Stalin really understood emotion. You know, I think he felt it was necessary to get those SOBs, right? That they deserved it. He says that several times. This is their own fault, right? This is their own fault. And as their own fault, you know, they get what they deserve. Basically. How much was the calculation? How much was it versus emotion? In terms of you said he was competent. Was there a long term strategy or was this strategy based on emotion and anger? No, I think actually the right answer is a little of both. I mean, usually the right answer in history is something like you can't. You can't, it wasn't just..
Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"stalin" Discussed on Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"Instead what happens is that Ukraine turns into the Ukrainian countryside turns into what my now past colleague who died several years ago, Robert conquest called a vast belson. And by that, you know, the images of bodies just lying everywhere. You know? People dead. And dying. You know, of hunger, which is, by the way, as you know, I've spent a lot of time studying genocide. I don't think there's anything worse than dying of hunger from what I have read. I mean, you see terrible ways that people die, right? But dying of hunger is just such a horrible, horrible thing. And so, for example, we know there were many cases of cannibalism in the countryside because there wasn't anything to eat. People were eating their own kids. And Stalin knew about this. And again, you know, we started with this question a little bit earlier. There's not a sign of remorse. Not a sign of pity. Not a sign of any kind of human emotion. That normal people would have. What about the opposite of joy for teaching them a lesson? I don't think there's joy. I'm not sure Stalin really understood emotion. You know, I think he felt it was necessary to get those SOBs, right? That they deserved it. He says that several times. This is their own fault, right? This is their own fault. And as their own fault, you know, they get what they deserve. Basically. How much was the calculation? How much was it versus emotion? In terms of you said he was competent. Was there a long term strategy or was this strategy based on emotion and anger? No, I think actually the right answer is a little of both. I mean, usually the right answer in history is something like you can't. You can't, it wasn't just..
Lex Fridman Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on Lex Fridman Podcast
"Suffered during this collectivization program, and they burned sometimes their own houses, they killed their own animals, they were shot, you know, sometimes on the spot, tens of thousands and others were sent into exile. So there was a conflagration in the countryside. And the result of that conflagration in Ukraine was terrible famine. And again, there was famine all over the Soviet Union, but it was especially bad in Ukraine in part because Ukrainian peasants resisted. Now, 32 33 a couple of things happen. I mean, I've argued this in my writing and, you know, I've also worked on this. I continued to work on it, by the way, with a museum in Kyiv that's going to be about the holodomor. They're building the museum now and it's going to be a very impressive set of exhibits. And talk with historians all the time about it. So what happens in 32 33 at a couple of things. First of all, the Stalin develops and even stronger. I say even stronger because they already had an antipathy for the Ukrainians. And even stronger antipathy for the Ukrainians in general. First of all, they resist collectivization, a second of all he's not getting all the grain he wants out of them. In which he needs. And so he sends in, then people to expropriate the grain and take the grain away from the peasants. These teams of people, you know, some policemen, some urban thugs, party people, some poor peasants, take part two. Go into the villages and forcibly sees grain and animals from the Ukrainian peasantry. They're seizing it all over. I mean, let's remember, again, this is all over the Soviet Union. In 32, especially. Then, you know, in December of 1932, January of 33 February of 33, Stalin is convinced the Ukrainian peasantry needs to be shown who's boss..
Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"stalin" Discussed on Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"Suffered during this collectivization program, and they burned sometimes their own houses, they killed their own animals, they were shot, you know, sometimes on the spot, tens of thousands and others were sent into exile. So there was a conflagration in the countryside. And the result of that conflagration in Ukraine was terrible famine. And again, there was famine all over the Soviet Union, but it was especially bad in Ukraine in part because Ukrainian peasants resisted. Now, 32 33 a couple of things happen. I mean, I've argued this in my writing and, you know, I've also worked on this. I continued to work on it, by the way, with a museum in Kyiv that's going to be about the holodomor. They're building the museum now and it's going to be a very impressive set of exhibits. And talk with historians all the time about it. So what happens in 32 33 at a couple of things. First of all, the Stalin develops and even stronger. I say even stronger because they already had an antipathy for the Ukrainians. And even stronger antipathy for the Ukrainians in general. First of all, they resist collectivization, a second of all he's not getting all the grain he wants out of them. In which he needs. And so he sends in, then people to expropriate the grain and take the grain away from the peasants. These teams of people, you know, some policemen, some urban thugs, party people, some poor peasants, take part two. Go into the villages and forcibly sees grain and animals from the Ukrainian peasantry. They're seizing it all over. I mean, let's remember, again, this is all over the Soviet Union. In 32, especially. Then, you know, in December of 1932, January of 33 February of 33, Stalin is convinced the Ukrainian peasantry needs to be shown who's boss..
Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"stalin" Discussed on Artificial Intelligence (AI Podcast) with Lex Fridman
"Reverses himself and is able to reverse himself or reverse the Soviet path to give various nationalities there, their ability to develop their own cultures and internal politics. Once he reverses all that, you know, you have the Ukrainian famine in 32, 33. You have the murder of kierra, who is one of the leading figures in the political system. You have the suicide of his wife. If you have all these things come together in 32 33 that then, you know, make it more likely in other words that bad things are going to happen. And people start seeing that too around him. They start seeing that. It's not a slippery slope. It's a dangerous. It's a dangerous situation, which is emerging. And some people really understand that. So I really do see a differentiation than between the 20s. I mean, it's true that Stalin during the Civil War, there's a lot of good research on that. You know, shows that he already had some of these characteristics of being, as it were murderous and being, you know, being dictatorial and pushing people around and that sort of thing. That was all there. But I don't really see that as kind of the necessary stage for the next thing that came, which was the 30s, which was really terror of the worst sort, you know, where everybody is afraid for their lives and their most people are afraid for their lives and their families lives and where torture and that sort of thing becomes a common part. You know, of who what people had to face. So it's a different it's a different world. And people will argue, they'll argue this kind of Lenin Stalin, continuity debate. You know, that's been going on since I was an undergraduate, right? That argument, you know, was Stalin the natural sort of next step from Lenin or was he something completely different?.
Lex Fridman Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on Lex Fridman Podcast
"Reverses himself and is able to reverse himself or reverse the Soviet path to give various nationalities there, their ability to develop their own cultures and internal politics. Once he reverses all that, you know, you have the Ukrainian famine in 32, 33. You have the murder of kierra, who is one of the leading figures in the political system. You have the suicide of his wife. If you have all these things come together in 32 33 that then, you know, make it more likely in other words that bad things are going to happen. And people start seeing that too around him. They start seeing that. It's not a slippery slope. It's a dangerous. It's a dangerous situation, which is emerging. And some people really understand that. So I really do see a differentiation than between the 20s. I mean, it's true that Stalin during the Civil War, there's a lot of good research on that. You know, shows that he already had some of these characteristics of being, as it were murderous and being, you know, being dictatorial and pushing people around and that sort of thing. That was all there. But I don't really see that as kind of the necessary stage for the next thing that came, which was the 30s, which was really terror of the worst sort, you know, where everybody is afraid for their lives and their most people are afraid for their lives and their families lives and where torture and that sort of thing becomes a common part. You know, of who what people had to face. So it's a different it's a different world. And people will argue, they'll argue this kind of Lenin Stalin, continuity debate. You know, that's been going on since I was an undergraduate, right? That argument, you know, was Stalin the natural sort of next step from Lenin or was he something completely different?.
Conversations
"stalin" Discussed on Conversations
"Don't worry it's fantastic and you gotta story and i got an incredible story so whatever happened to george. Did you ever make contact with him ever again. Yeah well the first time. I got wind of george. I was at a party or drinks or something clear restaurant at secular key and never was there. I saw him cross the room throughout the mining business. Yeah we'd sort of part of company. Shall we say and throw enough invention of guy. So i haven't said it's funny recognized. You said got talking on said Do keep in touch with george. I thought it was probably a dangerous question because they probably have pretty bad full happening. I says on in georgian ipod company. Georgia's george kensington living in kensington. I said what he says. I georgia's living in london narratives. He's changed his name to george kensington. Something it's just like this story. Emma finish so he went from being georgia. Georgia to be inked. Mr kensington of kensington. Exactly exactly couldn't invade more choice so kevin tracking down on facebook and I was going to run it on something else anyway. Ogun year and i thought i'll catch up with george george so we caught up and it was a bit disappointing. Many the pond in hyde park and he wasn't in great shape and he didn't really want to talk about macho thing. I wasn't long before. I realized she didn't really want to make me. And i don't really know why we had a chat and then we went off to have a drink. And i think we just had a cup of tea and a he wants to return about what happened to the one in the end and really wanna talk about. I think he probably didn't come out of georgia very well. He didn't really want to talk about that. You powder on good terms and terms and never million tat since the one still there. Have you heard any stories of that wind coming up on auction markets. Not at all and if had come we would have heard. We were known so. It's probably still the books. Come out and already. There's a february chitchat on europeans websites and social media. My view is watch this space. Some mad collector collected some tickly. Wind can be crazy is going to want to get this one. I want to get some of them. And they're gonna go to georgia and they can try to get these ones one. Another heavy with george george to them. That's a possibility i. If it ever does get taken out of the whoever decides to buy calls you over an invite you to share a glass from john. Thank you so much john. I raise a glass to you sir. Thank you really appreciate it enjoyed chatting with you about this story. John baker book is called stalin's wine cellar am. I spoke with him last year. I'm richard via thanks for listening. You've been listening to a podcast of conversations with richard fidler for more conversations interviews. Please go to the website. Abc dot net slash conversations. Discover more great. Abc podcasts live radio and exclusives on the abc listen app..
Conversations
"stalin" Discussed on Conversations
"We sat down had a conversation. I said how's george and has georgia's georgia's change now. It's a different world. And i said what the wind and he said. Forget the wind. And i said but i'm i'm just communicating. George actually. i haven't heard from him for months. I on what's happened with going ahead with the daily says. No you're not. George wasn't involved anymore and george wasn't even in georgia. So we're are being communicating. George by mama unle who knows we waas so had he come to sydney just to tell you. That's back-off well. He said that he'd come to see the rugby world cup and also to have a look at the stralia and when we left. Georgia i gave you my business card and said joe. Yeah have you ever come to style. You must look out because you have been saved wonderful hospitable. I'd love to return. Hospitality expecting seem of course still. What was your sense of that. Was he giving you a threat or was it a friendly warning. Well we didn't know it was one of the two though a warning not to come back to george or your secure. Your safety couldn't be guarantee if you come back to georgia or i suggest you don't come back to george because just safety county guaranteed or something along. He was quite definite comeback to georgia. I think when someone like that tells you something like that in such a categorical way. You listen to him. Well you know. Even after that. Kidman i come. I think says look at sunny wine. I mean i like my life. I'm not going to get it back there. I'm not going back there to get shot thinking that i might get this one. I mean i'm just being told. Don't come back. I mean you know the first time we went there there's elements of both dangerous challenging anyway. But at least. I consider a time. We're amid we had million dollar safety net around us because they wanted to have millions not going to look after us but ahead this that this time in fact i didn't even want me. They had to let it go athletic. You had to let it go after all those years. The forty thousand. So bottles of the zayas oneself stalin's wine cellar under winery outside. Tbilisi georgia this. Aladdin's cave of line way embarked on an adventure and the possibility of raising possibly the greatest unknown one seller in the world and we certainly worth. The effort was certainly worth the opportunity of sending worth the incredible house. Fulton investigation that we put into the whole process. And yes what. It didn't work but we had a hell of a time. I mean since we've written the book i've had so many one people go. I would have given anything to be to do this although we didn't get but you tasted the one. I tasted a couple of lines. I tasted a one hundred year old chateau sudarat which is exquisite out of a broken bottle. Yeah but i want the wine. And i've got that knowledge of what these ones a lot i mean. I sent him a copy of the book to tannin sent email before. And i said you might not remember me but we came to shatras. He says..
Conversations
"stalin" Discussed on Conversations
"Is it affected certain wines like the do get better the time or is that just a kind of snow value thing is. Is it possible that they can improve so much of a century and a half improves word. I think it depends how you like your wine. Best turn which swan the basic components sugar alcohol and acid all three rd preservatives so with us attorney basically got a bottle preserving so if it's kept well it can loss pretty well forever. Do they get better over time. It depends if you like all the kim personally. Unlike most of my wines a little bit young where they got some freshness bit of vitality and a bit of character and they got some some life to them having said that to drink one hundred one you know an extraordinary experience to one. That's one hundred years old and you actually know the one anyway. Is this something in your head. The connects what you're tasting with the antiquity of the century. Yeah i think so. I mean you connect with the story your connect with the fact that this is one hundred years old. It's wow and the other thing. I like to connect with his. What happened at the time. This was a history of the twentieth century. Because wine is. Oh ganic alive. It changes and evolves and for me. I'd just couldn't help thinking that these bottles of being lying. He alive watching what's going on above the russian revolution. The first world war second world war the fall of the berlin wool and these ones are just sitting there witness to it all. And i i find that quite fascinating. Then when you open me. Change their life to something. Spectacular disappointing so lodge out of the seller was the wine collection of as nicholas the second of russia but then part of it was stalin's collection to what did stalin's into the collection. Tell you about his taste swell. Personally i consider the whole stalin's and he's the one that moved there. As far as oscar de sell section. They were setting some spirits. There's a bulge gin and a few other things and then i think there's some. There's certainly more kim. This theory is that stalin. Didn't actually drink that match us. Wanted to bribe paypal and two. If you got drunk enough you could get stories out of them that they might otherwise might not tell it was a regular. -tective was to keep these ministers up and get them blind drunk. It's four o'clock in the morning or all night and say what i would say exactly. I believe so. Maybe the sellers us that apparently kristof who ended up Succeeding in when east to get home from these ol- not drinking bats with stalin. He used to before he went to bed and he told his wife what he'd say during the course of the evening she'd write it down so we can remember the so couldn't be held against him. That's that's how mine was kind of almost an instrument of tariff stalin. So you got the dozen bottles back to australia. But there was still this nagging worry that they might be considered some kind of cultural artifact in georgia. Well when we're there one of the executives the one we went on about these historical wines and cultural artifacts of georgia two and amendment a time george piped up and said that's rubbish. They russian wine stolen by stalin. They have nothing to do with georgia in the george watson cutout georgian but still in jewish morons but the great french that we will really after though. No one's brought by russia. Stolen my stalin. He's still if you're going to bring them all the way to sell the bees in london and they're you know someone could walk in from the georgian government you now you have brought to celtics. These really belong to us..
Conversations
"stalin" Discussed on Conversations
"That day. I say kevin. I've got the code. So he came in and he ran down the list and he said this incredible. This risk might be the greatest unknown collection of wines in the world. This is like an aladdin's cave of wine. In other words this is someone said. It's the raiders. Stock of minnesota is written incident half-baked english exact right. But if you if you go down that track then really got something serious. So special i thought in is like i said where is this trove of wine. And when you ask. Terry what did he say. Well we got to harry's office in harry. Harry had a smug look on his face. A what color. Oppa sally side. Mosley i said harry. The list phonetic isn't it and he laughed and he said yeah that's right. So what was harry's connection to this. This sell a full of one. Wherever that was harry new naval roads who was a chap who is in in mining and he was involved in a gold. Mine in tbilisi georgia. This is georgia in the caucus of georgia. Right this once. Out of the soviet union mean between turkey and russia anchalee. Yeah so that's where the ones silhouette where the wine was. Harry didn't tell us who's it was. He told us where was. And yes. And the georgians want a million dollars. Us for the wind for the wholesaler. And i said okay. So who who owns the one and he said all that's the best bit and he says i'll have to get nibbled to tell you that so we got two navels office and nivel said the story he got from georgia. It was the seller of the last russian nicholas. The second come the russian revolution nicholas. The second is taken out and not removed. And of course lennon took ivan then lynn not long after stanton coastal and took however so. This was the wine collection that had been the property of the czar of russia. Nicholas the second. He was inherited by the bolsheviks after the bolshevik takeover. And then that's how it came into the position of. Joseph stalin the dictatorship soviet union exactly everything becomes. Joseph's joseph says it's is it that's right who wants to argue not no one wants to so hounded the wine then get from what i can. Only assume is the winter palace instant petersburg all the way to georgia. Well come the second world war. Stalin was very concerned. Hitler was going to run russia so style and decided to move a lot of artifacts. And and there's this other story we told was that stalin divide the ceiling to three parts. One part went to the masandra winery and the crime. Which is the national winery and one third went to his hometown of tbilisi georgia. No would find it. And of course now i did find a for fifty years. So you've gone to see this money executive bought a mine in georgia near tbilisi the capital and from that. He's discovered this winery nearby. That has a huge collection of thousands and thousands of bottles of wine that had been done by the last czar of the romanovs pasta under stalin and had been forgotten about was the part of you that thought on being told tile here. That can't be true. I was incredibly skeptical about the whole thing. But when something like this you know when you're in the wine industry and your specialty is alderman ray winds and you get offered supposedly a collection. The no one's ever heard of it didn't own exists and it's got some of the greatest wines in the world..
Conversations
"stalin" Discussed on Conversations
"It and thirdly where exactly was it being held john discovered the wind was hidden below a winery in the republic of georgia small nation between russia and turkey on the black sea where the great soviet dictator. Joseph stalin was born. This was the start of an adventure. The took john. And he's associate kevin all over the world to paris the vineyards of bordeaux and into the wilds of georgia where they had to be accompanied by armed gunmen john. Bikers book is called stalin's wine cellar spoke with john in the great outdoors. Which you can hear all this lovely birdsong. Hello john how it should be. Here story starts when you were sent that list from a man that you call harry in the book. Tell me about this message government. This is a list of why we had the in double by especially it was buying all sellers or buying people's private sellers and harry was very energetic colorful character and harriet had a little bit to do water. He'd been rates alley and he's to bring his what he said but deals and opportunities and also some fantastic opportunities which just ridiculous somewhat someone really print and then this one time he sent me this fax and was thirty pages and they're covering page just had interested question mark and harry underplays. Something at macy's really got something and just didn't look like a list of wants to me because oland names just want the famous ones that we knew the great ones of the world and the first column of this list were names of as said just didn't recognize as one the second column had dates eight twenty seven fifty six nineteen ten. A metal must threw us off because we used to buying sellers in australia where the vintages were not a six thousand nine hundred seventy nine thousand nine hundred eighty something so to see a column of the century before and there's even seventeen hundreds of the century before that was almost. So what does this mean. That might sense. Well if cetinje wasn't as clear and clean as we used to. But i was going to give up on this and i'm a great believe something's troubling you. You know there's something here but you can't work it out..
A.D. History Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"Don't don't take that shit from him. He ends up joining the red army air force and he becomes a pilot and he gets promoted well beyond his ability. Simply because e stalin's not that stalin is pushing this long. He isn't those in the in. The military framework were just operating with in anticipatory obedience working towards what they think might police stalin or the very least not piss them off. Does everybody cause a potential target. He goes on something like thirty combat missions but his father's very keen to keep him out of the air on the ground and away from the front lines which is very different than is son with his first wife. Yaacov who ends up. Who is a member of the red army in. This case thinks in his early thirties. He and stalin never got along in fact. Don was very contemptuous of yaacov. Even though svetlana adored yaacov she referred to him as his as her hero lose a good guy he was he had very little in common with his father and he ends up getting captured by the germans in world. War two and died. Yeah trying to escape whether it was actual escape or suicide by escape is unknown by the asia twenty four. He's a major general the youngest person to ever achieve that rank. Despite the fact he most certainly should not be there. Ya wonder how i will now. The son of stolen became a major general. The twenty four years old not through his own abilities in acts many many of the reports evaluating him are very very low in their opinion. and so. what's interesting about. This is in the movie when we first see a silly. He's at an ice skating rink with hockey team. And this is makes reference to something very specific in late nineteen forties in. This case was silly becomes very interested engaged in building a really good red army air force hockey team and he actually is quite successful. Out of the problem was in nineteen fifty. That entire team died in a plane crash to land in terrible weather in Svetlogorsk gosh or now again known as catcher and berg's just just beyond the volga kind of like near the urals. That's actually where are nicholas and his family were executed very far away but he was so terrified of his father as he was his entire life. He attempted to cover the whole thing up. Yeah good luck. Good luck and so. He was trying to replace players on. That's what they're making fun of dough he was from. I can tell in any way responsible for what happened. He still is too terrified as hell. His father and tried covering up and getting an entirely new team and he ended up really falling out of favour especially with his dad during a mayday workers. Holiday parade.
A.D. History Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"To nineteen forty eight and of course you have the creation of the state of israel the nascent state of israel. As far as the cold war was concerned. They were not so eager to pick sides at that point as i understand it but the goal of my ear visit to the soviet union really set off stones once again paranoia because he was noticing. How many russian jews and their great expression of joy to see her and this creation of this new israeli state and he began questioning jews loyalty to the soviet union. Over that of israel he really started focusing in zionist conspiracy. We've heard this tune before too long ago and a certain place in europe prior to the end of i it's it's just bunkers. We talked by the way went. Sign was an show. We talked the butt-cover votes the jewish people. It's just constantly just constantly the target is. It's just awful even. Hey even the even into the right off. The math of the holocaust is just happening. All over again is bizarre. And it's awful. Just leave these people alone for christ's anyway. That's just a bit amazing on our part but this was also really punctuated by the molotovs wife. Paulina who was jewish and was a close friend of gold by ear. And paulina because we have slept. Molotov was for the most part during stalin's reign his right hand man just like joseph stalin stalin of courses a revolutionary nom-de-guerre translates into basically man of steel Was born veatch. Assist skit aubin and molotov is based on the russian word for the hammer mullet. Molotov you get the idea. She was very close friends with golda. My ear and from what we can tell alina had been on stalin shitless for some time for numerous reasons. She was very opinionated very strong. She actually help some very powerful positions in the soviet union as a minister to be sure but really the thing that all likelihood may have really set off installers mind is that she was basically the best friend of his late..
A.D. History Podcast
"stalin" Discussed on A.D. History Podcast
"And it's a one party state so you know there. There are two separate organs that are serving a singular purpose that is well understood in established at this point and i think that could be a little hard to understand for outsiders. Sometimes you know we. We don't grow up any of us for the most part getting a lesson in soviet civic. Yeah yeah we mentioned how. This movie is very fast and loose with its history And there's there's a lot of artistic liberty that's taken here by all means there's a lot there's a lot of accuracy but there's also a lot of artistic liberty to pull your a much much more knowledgeable about russia in history than i am as much joy i definitely am not the most moose russian issue as much as i wanted to be. If i'd say a question to you is the single. Most historically inaccurate thing about this film will be response. I mean where do you start. That's a difficult question. Because i remember i was watching a review of this movie a couple years back shortly after came out and actually came across it again the other day from a youtube historian. Who's extremely stream. Good at what he does. He's at actual. I'm not gonna use his name if you guys are up with youtube and you happen to find it and you kind of connect the dots fine and i have tremendous respect for this guy but he seemed to kind of miss the point. I think which is to say that he was extremely harsh in critical of the inaccurate. Answer your question a moment but but at the same time. This film does not try to make any claims to stoorikhel accuracy. That was not the point of it by any means. So what is the most historically inaccurate thing here. A lot of it has to do with what happened after stalin is not even though they're definitely quite a bit few things in the funeral but how truncated events are that lead to bury his execution the way the movie portrays it..
The Strategists
"stalin" Discussed on The Strategists
"Able to point to for several months just as we still talk about the alberda medical association giving ninety eight percent non-confidence shanto but to be clear. This is ninety nine percent of representatives. These are the people that's well. That's i mean it's it's there's a filter. There's a gap in between and the people who tend to put themselves up for representation in any organization. Tend to be a little more militant and often will vote strategically if they're trying to send a message and this is a this is potentially good example of that but i want to tell you a story and that story is that in one thousand nine hundred forty six. Joseph stalin ran elections to the supreme soviet and in those elections stalin. The bolsheviks got ninety. Nine percent of the vote and one percent voted against so non-confidence in our minister of education is popular as joseph stalin. Joseph stalin run election right. Now i mean. The percentage is pretty extreme and Scott to give the government a bit of pause because they're definitely playing for keeps talking about and they're making it very clear they're very mad about the state of of the relationship between the province of alberta and the alberta teachers association. I'm going to stick you for the for the so you know they send a message. How do us kenny. Point this or government of the day. How do you plan this as isolated incident versus pattern. Because you've already mentioned another proof point if you wanted to mention a pattern with with shandra You know how are you trying to take this and use it for you. Know try to diminish its prowess so to speak where you just you. Just say it's all politics it's all optics and yes i mean we are. We are trying to write a ship here that the teachers compensation needs to be brought in line. I'll burton's across the province of had to have their wages reduced to deal with this economic downturn blah blah blah. You know all of the standard uc talking points on this matter. I think that there's going to be a pretty compelling proposition to an audience if you say that too right. i mean. there's the counterpoint. Yeah for whatever reason there's a whole lot of people in this world who when they suffer would be very happy if other people suffer as well and if my wages go down. I think your wages should go down and to be fair. There's also people are deeply anxious about the fiscal state of the province given that jason kenny in the government and allies have for many years. Been talking about this fiscal disaster that we have which was part of their proposition for. This is why you've got to replace the mvp and the deficit is just gotten worse. The debt has just gotten worse. Things have have gotten markedly downhill from where they were in two thousand nine hundred and so if if you have managed to convince people about how bad it was then. They're going to look at it now. And they're going to think this guy is fucking falling and they're gonna wanna see reductions done to teachers salaries whatnot but this is obviously. This is much bigger than although i think tied into the ongoing negotiations on everything under the sun all of the various public sector contracts. We have this. This curriculum is incredibly unpopular out of sixty one sixty two..
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"stalin" Discussed on The Strategists
"Well i i wanna see you as a partner here or i want you involved in some way shape or form to try to flatter their preferred candidate into the role. But you have to be candidate about what the role is what the limits of that role is and i think one of the problems with paet is that there was clearly never an exchange of information both the transmission of this is the job and then the receiving back of i understand. This is the jaw because she took an entirely different approach to it and it was one that ultimately got her set up at odds with the prime minister's office and even though she resigned with cloud about how she treated staff the reality is that was not a productive healthy relationship with me ammo for some time before. That and i suspect that they were going to be much more. Careful about doing the vetting. This time around making sure. It's not somebody who's had workplace challenges in the past but but beyond that there needs to be clarity on the role and clarity as to the nature of the quote unquote partnership and. Let's be clear. It's not a partnership the prime minister's boss. The governor general is a figurehead. I want you to react to corey statement here because you know often. To course point some of these roles have some very defined elements. This is a ceremonial job. You'll need to do these ten things. Here's what it looks like. Here's around these times exactly in tactically. What you need to do. And then there's like a lot of open space right then. There's like the day to day where you'll engage with community or you'll you'll you'll do outreach. How much would you advise if leblanc is giving the list of eight to ten names. How much would you advise as part of that eight ten names you as to what corey said that you include the framework of start more like christie defining. What the job is even in the flexible. Space that once existed. Well i think that corey's exactly right. The job needs to be understood for what it is because it has ceremonial elements and then it also has public facing elements so the ceremonial is actually relatively straightforward. Signed the things that come across your desk when the prime minister comes and asks you to drop a writ do so in if things get a little more complicated than that than rely on advisors but the public facing elements are on. They could be is important that i think they're important. I think when corrie says that you know. Not having a a g g for the last x. Number of months has anybody noticed. Yeah i think. I think people have noticed and i think that we would notice that. Yeah we didn't have the governor general awards that we didn't have all of the the various ceremonies. And no you know. We have to rename them. The prime minister's awards you'd have logic then they'd be politicised politicized. He cares about more the name because somebody political political. That's what i'm saying. You're wrong okay fine. So why don't we send them a letter from the country of canada. Who gives a fuck. Houdini signed the letter candidate. Ken who gives a fuck that going to be you with some sort of electric signed machine. Canada captain corey canada while they held on make much sense as the current system. Did here you are in fact on the shortlist so.