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French vs Ahmart: Its The Authority Stupid! The Mike Church Show
"Civility is a value, though. A secondary one and must be ordered to a higher good, or it is no good at all. His John Henry Newman put it the virtues of the civil and decent man are seen within the pale of the church and without it in holy men, and in profligate. They formed the beau ideal of the world. They partly assist and partly distort the development of the Catholic, what's been a long time since I use that term beau ideal the great American founding father, George Mason was fond of Saint something was, or was the beau ideal. New men was himself a great man of cultivation and politeness. But it was opponents. He often seemed overly fierce, he recalled incidents of his seeming rudeness and the upper nausea that he wrote one scandal concern to poem. He had written titled zeal and love, here's the poem. What's our reach rash, scholar, mine loves high on ruffled state awake. The easy dreams resign. I learned the how to hate. Newman wanted us to hate sin, and error, not other men, but it commended or but he committed hate in sharp terms, because he feared that respectability the great virtue and the vice of the Victorians left men, unfit for any trial. Merican society is torn by deep deep disagreements about what is good these substantive disagreements result in clashes over civility, one recent clash occurred, when Josh Hawley challenged judicial nominee, Michael Baldwin over the false equivalences. He had drawn between Catholics and the KKK. Bork boggling road, and in a legal brief that a Catholic farmers refusal, the host gay weddings on his farm with the was quote, no different than the white applicants, only signed close, quote, that's totally not true. I know it's a philosophical mistake, or get to in a moment, holiday suggested that this was an outrageous, uncivil and fundamentally disqualifying, statement, hollies critics meanwhile, claimed that he was being uncivil Benny was violating the norms governing. The question of nominees standing mind is dispute about manners was a disagreement over. What a Mari calls the highest good now again. Well, how do you say highest good in Latin? Soom is either Suma, if it's one or soom, and if you're talking about it, plural. I gave the example. It's graduation season is the first week in June many graduates this coming weekend. Right. Some of you listening right now probably have low cheer ones that are going to graduate, if they graduate with great with high honors, they can graduate, coom loudly or coom laud, they can graduate. Maga coom laude. And then what's the highest Suma Coon? Laud. With highest praise. So the highest good is the. Worst joss will when I need them summum Bono. My believe. What are we being Latin? Saint Thomas acquaintance, writes about it. Can ask brother. Andrea Marie when he comes on segment about the summum bone them.
Interview with Eric Dunavant
"Welcome to the breakfast leadership show where we interview global thought leaders on business leadership in life. Here's your host keynote speaker bestselling author and chief burnout officer of the breakfast leadership network. I go eleven. Welcome back that Eric analyzing. How are you? I'm Michael I am doing well, it is a good day it is. Yeah I every day wake up by say it's a good day and start off with that foundation It helps you navigate through days that some people may deem maybe not so good and at the time of this recording, we are definitely in the middle of a pandemic or at least we hope we're the metal I i. hope this is the beginning. We're closer to the end. But who knows, yeah, fingers crossed on that but. The work that you do in the financial space and the pre show we were talking about variety different things in ways we could take this but. Ideally, I wanNA focus on our or return on investment, but not necessarily in the way that many people think of Roi. So a jump in you know, how did you get involved in in the industry and you know some of the things that you've learned along the way? Yeah. So the way that I got involved was. Not necessarily. A. Happy Story. When I was growing up, my dad was a veterinarian in West Texas. It was a really really good veterinarian. He wasn't necessarily. The best at doing business and that'll make sense just a minute, but he was so focused on the return on investment of his veterinary practice. He was borrowing money to grow it. He was really focused on expanding in multiple practices and trying to hire some other veterinarians. I, mean he had a growth mindset entrepreneurial mindset. And he was so really a workaholic and everything in my seventh grade year my mom falls and breaks her arm. And everyone is tell me about your childhood idyllic childhood up until that point. But she ended up getting a staph infection and we buried my mother the day before I started my freshman year of high school. And that then led to a series of events where if you look at my dad's lifestyle of trying to be a workaholic, he's always working always working trying to chase down the return on investment for the business. And my mom passes away and now he's got A. Left with all this chaos. Got Myself. I've got a sister who seven years younger than I am I like to say every morning he had to get up and decide whether or not. He was going to be Mary poppins or go to the office and all of the stress of that whole situation. Really disconnected our family, it led to a lot of strain between he and I've already got the strain of the teenage years, but then throw something like that on top of it. And then by my senior year, he filed bankruptcy. And my journey really became I'm going to run away and try and do everything I can to not experience what I experienced growing up. Between the bankruptcy and the disconnected nece from my father and just the whole kind of chaos that came in with that went off to college at Texas a and M. got a degree in business. And my whole goal in my whole focus was I'm just gonNA. Go get wealthy when a figure out a way because my thinking was if I accumulate enough money, money will solve the problem that I've been having. And the problem that because my dad, my dad would have had enough money. None of that would have ever happened. That was the mindset that I had given myself and I met my wife and we married in that pursuit in short made me completely miserable. And I ended up working in the financial services industry specifically because I was seeking this path to not only help myself. But could I help other families avoid the tragedy of what had happened for my family and again I kept trying to seek it from a financial solution. How do we do this financially? How do we help people figure this out in? Maybe it's a product or maybe it's an investment or maybe it's something else and. As I was doing that my life started to drift into its own kind of chaos I was. Not connected to my kids. My wife and is relationship was getting strained. There's problems that were happening along the way and I had a friend of mine. who was probably the cruelest and greatest friend I've ever had who came up to me and ask the question he's like, why do you hate your family? And I'm like, what are you talking about a love my family I don't I don't understand it goes look. Here's the only thing I know you're never home you're always working you're always on the road and I know how you're trying to create change the story inside your family. But what you're doing right now won't change that story. You're actually just going to duplicate it in a completely different way because what I see is it looks like you hate your family because if you trust me, I want to show you something. And so what he encouraged me and challenged me to do was to take a step back. And he said, here's what I want you to do I want you to. Turn your focus off of the business. That don't you ignore the business but I want you to take the business down to the lowest priority. And I want you to start every single day in a meaningful way connecting with your wife and kids and I want you to carve out some time to take care of your health and I want you to carve out some time to find some spiritual connection and get connected deeper from a spiritual sense and then after you've done all of that and I want you to go into the office. and. Thought he was crazy but I was miserable enough that I said, okay I'M GONNA I'M GONNA test this out. I'm going to try it and Michael the. craziest thing happened. I started to get more connected to my wife I started to get more connected to my kids health started to improve but not only that I found myself coming into the office like so completely more focused more dialed in my business began to take off and began to do really really well, and I was working kind of the phrase working smarter not harder but it was at this point I started to just understand it's not about the return on investment it's about return on intention. Because too many times when we're chasing down on investment, what we find out is we're going after things that look like they're going to give us something better. But they end up creating unintended consequences we could never imagine. When I take a step back and focus on the outcome that I want than. What I'm pursuing might actually change. If I looked at the fact, I wanted to stronger marriage going to the office for eighty hours. A week is not going to give me a stronger marriage. So if that's my intention, I can't continue to invest my time at the office to do that I've said a lot there I probably ought to pause for just a minute that's really kind of the beginning of how the story starts. So much golden there and there's so many things that resonate with me especially on the. The advice you received. Take basically taking your calendar and flipping it on its head because what I see with people that are. Stress grinding in just making everybody miserable for them to try to get that our ally that the thought that they wanted. Now they're not taking care of themselves and they're not taking care of their loved ones. Those are we'll do that later in once this is their once we get to the this level. Of. Financial Stability and that definition varies greatly with people. Some people think they need billions and some people say you know what? One hundred thousand dollars a year salary would be amazing and completely transformed my life and their true the right but the the fact that. Your friends. Focus on you first and focus on them and making sure that there needs taken care of then you can work on the other things. A lot of people think and I'm sure you had this thought to where. I don't know if that's GONNA work. My business is GONNA fail if I don't put that time and effort at where we're actually what happened was. You were more energized and calm and had more clarity because she arrested and your self care and the care of your loved ones. was taken care of in such a way that when you went to work, you had more energy effect better more clarity. You could see things much better than you were before, which means all of a sudden you're working smarter and your business starts to take off. And it's a flow it flows differently. It's not a jagged edge it. It flows better in you do that. That's when when people look from an outside point of view the go. Wow things are easy for you not easy. It's just Not to dumb it down, but it's it's it's following a system that works for you. But it makes sure that your foundation is strong and when your home life is strong everything else. A hate saying takes care of itself, but it's a whole lot easier to be able to navigate through life when the home life is optimum in everyone's happy and loving each other and really supporting each other and their own personal growth journey wherever it comes up. So no thank you for sharing that because that gives a really good foundation on on what we want to dive into is that. Return on intention you know, what do you want to do with investing and Finances and life, and all of that stuff because I I think that's one piece of the puzzle. So many people mess. What is and what you brought up a really interesting point. So a lot of at our company, a lot of what we do is work with business owners who are within two years to six months of a business. And one of the reasons that that became a specialty niche for us is because we found so many business owners buying I wanna say the Lai 'cause I think it is alive that you know what? There's a season coming I know I've been working hard I know I haven't been home I know I haven't been connected to my wife but the minute we hit this exit then at that point, that's when everything gets better. And the thing that I've realized and noticed is money doesn't cause problems. What money does it magnifies and intensifies all the little bitty unintended consequences that you've been ignoring. So what happened to these Biz? What was happening to these business owners who weren't prepared up front is they would go into the event thinking that this was about to be there shining moment. This was where the family was about to be connected this where everything was going to happen in on day one. Or Day zero, they're worth x amount on paper with very little in the bank account and then the next day there's a whole lot of money in the bank account and not a whole lot. You know it's not paper anymore not theoretical it's actually in the bank and they think okay. So now we can talk about relationships and now we can go and build this time and it's almost like the old cats in the cradle song is like where have you been who are you and there was a lot of relational strain and then even the excess frustration of now there's expectation. Built around the wealth one kind of almost entitlement and then other things starting to come up and we were trying to get to a point of can I prepare you for what's about to happen because the outcome you think is going to happen is not the reality of the outcome you're going to experience. And this thing we along the journey, we think this is where we're going to get to and. Like any nautical sailor? You're a degree off boy I. It's it's it's only one degree but. Where you land is not where you thought you would, and so you have to pivot and adjust along the way and. A lot of people I think and you have highlighted this a couple times. Everyone's focused on the end goal in the end result and they don't pay attention to what they're saying while they're approaching there and that's where life happens is that's the it's the journey I a colleague of mine, Justin Breen, a posted an image, this morning of him and his two sons, and they were out fishing and they caught a much bigger fish than I've ever landed in my life, not that I fish much but definitely I look at that I'm like if you add up the length of all the fish, I've ever caught my life, it still isn't as long as this fish. But I commented on his post because I know what he's doing in life as PR and I'll think has His is business as quite successful and he's doing really really good. and. I know he gets us but I still commented on it and I said. You know with all the success and all the accolades and business growth in all of that. It's those moments like this. Fishing with your kids or Experiencing life the day to day joys of life. Is What we remember. I mean, if you ask me okay, who is the first client? I've ever had I know who they are but. You know if you start asking okay who is the tenth one? Unless I go back and look at my contracts and things like that that I could tell you but I'll start my head. Because It's not that that was important. Believe me they are but it's it's the journey along the way it's being in the moment and too often we spent so much time looking so far ahead, you know trying to forecast the future instead of living our life and actually creating the future. And that's the challenge because the rest of the world tells us that's what we're supposed to do. So if we're actually going to focus on the moment in one since we're going against the grain. Somebody. Asked me why I hated by family to even get me the clarity to see it. And I. think that's been the thing for us. That's been the no greatest excitement and revelation is when we can help the family begin to say, Hey, okay. What does it look like to have true return on intention on what we're doing we're talking a little bit about this when you made the comment before we came on the air like was, what should I be doing with ten thousand dollars right now how should I invest or think about ten thousand dollars and everybody's going to have a different answer? But I I don't know if I'm GonNa make any enemies here but I'd be careful. I mean Dave Ramsey gives this pergram of you've got to save and invest and do all the stuff because you're thinking about your future and I think that that's good in one sense. But if you sacrifice your family and your relationships to build a future that no one's going to be around to enjoy with you what was the point And so sometimes, the answer is I need to invest that ten thousand dollars in an investment for the future, and sometimes the answer is we need to go on a really Nice vacation and built some memories. And that's crucial. That's something I look back at. Two, thousand nine hundred, and there are a lot of things that I did. Last year that were. Bucket list items that have wanted to do very long time and was able to do them and. And you know the memories of it. You know for for my kids that went on a trip, bend my brother and her half. You know we we talk about that and it. Especially now during this pandemic, where there's a lot of things like those things, none of those things, we would be able to do this year because those events and experiences aren't available right now, they will be again at some point for the hammers home. How important it was, and I'm thankful that I had. I say stumbled on it but that's not really true. To make sure that I enjoyed those moments in the moment and of course, I reflect on them now and think, wow, that was such an amazing trip and we had so much fun doing that and. in being able to go someplace that we've wanted to go my brother and I went on a trip that we've wanted to be able to do. For thirty years three decades people. So it's a long time we did it. We did it and it was an amazing moment actually have a picture of my brother I on my phone that moment night and I see it from time to time and I go. Wow that's amazing. Especially now when we're going through such a challenging world at this moment. I reflect back on that and like, okay that was an incredible time I'm thrilled I was able to do it as a reminder that those types of times are still available. We can still do things that enjoy life even during pandemic, you find those things you can do. and. and. Like you said, you know we could take ten ground and invested in the latest whatever type of stock or save it for whatever. But. There's Times where you go. You know what? To strengthen and invest in ourselves and our family in our friends. Sometimes, those investments call for let's go on a trip together. Come on. Let's go have some fun because you blink and the next thing you know three decades go by so it literally it's like Do that look like wait a minute we've been want to do this since. Nineteen ninety in of course, in my first career was accounting so I can do the math there and go. Wow. Yeah a long time. I'm so thrilled that we were able to do it and quite frankly. I'm glad we did it now instead of that, I would have appreciated it than. As much as I do now, because you have life experiences all the way in you figure out what's important and what's not, and that comes with age experience and getting crystal clear on what's important to you right now and and I love that I love that thing. So. Crazy. Crazy at least for me is when you look at it. So we've talked a lot about return on intention versus return on investment but so I talked about this happening within my business but I'll tell you just in clients that we've served as we've partnered with them along the way. The most interesting and fascinating thing to me is on a consistent basis as we've helped families get really clear on what the return on intention is all of a sudden. Then they're real true return. On investment starts to go up because they can think about, okay this is what I want to be intentional about, and this is how I want to do it, and maybe it's the vacation of the trip or maybe it's accumulating some funds for a wedding or maybe it's accumulating some funds for XYZ whatever. But however you structure everything. But when you're so clear on what your intentions are, then you can actually think about things that make a difference from an Roi Return on investment standpoint. And what we've found is most people are paying more taxes than they need to pay. They've got the opportunity to be more generous and the only way that they start to determine and find those things starts with return on intention it never starts with return on investment, but everyone's chasing down return on investment and the world has his chasing it down the wrong way. And you've said that a couple times where the world wants us to do this this way and. And I find sometimes that. If. Do Things. The same way everybody else is doing you're GONNA get the same results as everybody else and everybody else. If you look at them and the Asam, they're truly honest. They're not where they WANNA be because their goals and focuses things on that. It's better to say, okay what's everybody doing right now? Let me look at the other direction and see what's going on there. You know it could be from an investment standpoint or habits or watching the latest Netflix show whatever the case may be like, what are people doing? What could I do? That would be. Better for me and my family, and if it's in alignment with what quote unquote everybody else is doing. Great. Awesome. But I find sometimes when you you know there's a book called Zag. The kind of talks about that where it's like everybody's doing one thing it's like take a look and see what's going on in the other direction because there may be opportunities there for you that no one else is gonNA see. I love that perspective. I told my son by just dropped my son off at purdue for his freshman year. That was one of the conversation we had before he went I said, if you look at our life in the could teach you one thing. It's what everybody else is doing. Look at that other perspective like you just said and see if there's something of value in it for you and there may be a ton of value that you could go a different direction but you might also learned something you know. But so many times were committed to just let's just follow the path of least resistance in the least resistance doesn't get us the results we want. Most of the time. I know your son will hopefully learn something at purdue. It's a big ten school I grew up in the big ten area up. So I I trust that they'll be a lot of learning opportunities and navigating some interesting days ahead for sure. So for. For someone that wants to make this shift and it's it's a mind shift. I think it would be from my vantage point simple to make the shift complex. So what are some of the pitfalls that people might face when they try to shift from? The classic. Common, Roi To. The different type of Roi Thinking. Well the first is always the fact that there's not a lot of people going in that direction. So if you were to start spending time more time with your spouse or more time, we're focused on your body or something like that. And less time focused on your business. The first thing that everybody like, what are you crazy? How are you going to be more productive? So you'RE GONNA get a lot of the critics you've got to be able to silence the critics. The other thing that I think is the second most critical part of this that was reflecting on this earlier today is so many times. We live in this microwave culture and we expect the results tomorrow. So the return on investment or even the return on intention you're receiving today you're getting because of the way that you've been investing in that for the last five ten years. So if you spent two weeks. Doing things differently. And Life's only slightly better. You get frustrated and stop. Because your life hasn't completely transformed. I mean transformation transformation to return on intention takes time it might take you know it took me three years plus to really start to see results that were like, wow, i. mean it took me about a month ago this works but it took about three years to get the. Wow. So can you be patient with the process I mean it's kind of like you know if you haven't been to the gym and years and you show up and you do some, sit ups run on the treadmill for thirty seconds. And you're sore the next day and you're wondering why you can't run a marathon. It's the same thing from the standpoint it. That's the biggest pitfall is being patient with yourself and being willing to trust the process. and. That's what's so Kershaw is trusting the process and. Enjoying the journey along the way You know we yes we look forward and there's nothing wrong with looking forward to edge his fate where you WANNA be and have goals and whatnot but enjoy the ride along the way because when you do your life is so much fuller. So Eric I've loved her conversation they were can people find out more about you and this incredible work you're doing? So, we are at Paradigm Dot Org P. A. R. A. D. I E. M. Dot Org. Our mission is to help families and businesses live better story. The other thing that I would encourage people are kind of wanted to figure out a way to start this journey we break it down into four key categories we say that return on intention comes in greatness growth governance and generosity, and we have created what we call a family impact kit and we've got that available for free for anybody who just wants to shoot me. An email at Eric at Paradigm Dot Org will send you this family impact kit and it's a day of activities of kind of turning your life down and backwards and really focusing on things that matter across those four key areas of greatness growth governance. In the I think if you invested in yourself and your family for day through this family impact kit, you'd begin to kind of start see this return on intention that we've been talking on talking about today. So shoot me an email and we'll get that out to you. That's awesome and I'll definitely have that in the show up. So Eric, thank you so much time today appreciate you and this amazing work you're doing and. Thanks again for being on the show, right. Thank you. Michael. It's been great. Appreciate you. Thanks for listening to the this leadership show part of the breakfast leadership network visit breakfast leadership, dot com for tips on empowering Your Business and your life.
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L L and I'm from New Orleans Louisiana. I'm a four police officer down in New Orleans. Boomer Marshall in New Orleans and I spent twenty seven years with the Drug Enforcement Administration as a special agent and then as a supervisor with our retired in two thousand seventeen and went to work for the district attorney's ear and St Tammany Parish Has a felony major crime investigating. I am completely retired now at this point. Kim. You're outnumbered heavens two one New Yorker. I love skip sank here. I'm so tired of being outnumbered by like Jim. Bobby I don't think you heard correctly James's Brazzi let's unbelievable. I knew you would turn it around somehow or James. Our we'll call you skip skip. You have a very interesting accent. Where's up from will? I was born in floor. We moved to Florida. My Dad was a Florida Highway Patrol officer recently moved to Florida. Grandfather played pro baseball. He played for the Pittsburgh Pirates and during the all season he would do the Spring Training Coaching in Florida. He didn't like this protocol so we ended up moving to Florida. And that's where I was born all right well first of all my dad was drafted by the Pittsburgh pirates. You went to their AAA farm team. But then his brother had just gotten married and he got drafted and so. I've father by enlisting prevented his brother from having to get sent overseas in the Korean War and he got on a plane went to Korea and came back a few years later and father had been killed. And there's a whole bunch of mess happening at the time so he never went back into baseball. But that's amazing so you dad played the Pittsburgh pirates where Roberto Clementi played. It was actually. My grandfather played the piracy was National League pitcher of the year couple years. He Played All Star Games. Wow My dad got drafted out of college. You went to Florida. State coincidentally played with football. Burt Reynolds and played baseball. Also yet played with Foreign Leagues in Cincinnati. Decided that wouldn't work in out enlisted in the Marine Corps Rink Before Highway Patrol. I guess that was my initial interest in malls worship. That's pretty amazing. And what was your grandfather's name and your father's name. A grandfather was Tool he's into a piece called the Blue Ball now that we instead of the park in like the forty four all star game. I believe it was the only homerun off and then my dad would juice. Oh Wow that's awesome. Well that's really amazing piece of history and I would just for the record jam skip. You couldn't have finished where your accent came from because every good southern Florida is not the south. I'm sorry to our Florida listeners. But although those of you Floridians who live in the redneck Riviera my favorite spot in the world that is on the Gulf coast of Florida. Maybe some of you there in the panhandle consider yourself southerners and all adopt such but the rest of Florida. Skip is not southern. So where'd you get your accent in Georgia? We MOVE TO GERRY. Adams Georgia to answer your question. I Q and then we moved to the New Orleans area when I was a senior in high school. Okay wonderful people come from Marietta Georgia. I'm just GonNa say that To start so skip. Tell us about your career. I mean you had a really interesting when you were A. Da for a really long time. I think it'll surprise people to know it's Drug Enforcement Administration. Lots of people think it's something else but that's D. A. And can I just tell you right now? I used to tell people that when I was in USA. When I was a federal prosecutor if you put a bunch of men walking into my office each one from a different federal agency secret service. Atf DA FBI marshalls five guys if you walked in. Put them all on a suit and didn't tell me where they belong. I could tell you where they belong. It's like instantly recognizable. You know who's who and I just have to say I don't mean to insult either. Your Jim Secret Service dresses the best and I have to tell you skip. There's probably a tie between you and the marshalls for maybe were stressed. Only because I consider you guys to be kind of the the door kicking cowboys and I liked that. It's a positive thing. It's not a negative and my wrong. You're absolutely right. It is kind of nature out on the street a lot. Cone ties don't fit end in the neighborhoods. We go to so yeah and a lot of guys love his uses. Excuse to dress that way even going to quarter. Us Attorney's office and yet but you are also dealing with a very violent incredibly difficult. Let's put it that way war instead of just fighting crime and so it's that I believe that the a has to be more tactical definitely has to be more strategic than the average FBI agent or secret service agent. Who are really basically babysitters. Let's get. Let's be honest right. Star Jam well-dressed Babysitters. But it's an important baby sitting but whatever the no doubt that we had a tax police sound we have today coincidentally was hit or sa not to eat. My was your supervisor. Bats Special Response Team that dealt with most of the high risk arrest and search warrants. Tragically left we have shooting New Orleans at one of our agents but s. thirteen was kind of a long day for for va but it's of enrolling now. I think it's a good good philosophy. Given the type of people that we encounter skip. That's one of the things that really strikes me. In particular about all law enforcement of course. Because eventually you're all in that situation but in particular the marshalls and the DA seemed to hit houses with warrants and that search warrants and arrest warrants for the most dangerous kind of people and that can be an always. It seems a very high risk situation. So you guys are really putting yourselves on the line on a daily basis and I would agree in when I was with marshalls. We had a less active wars squad at the time we mainly went after probation and Parole. Violators the marshals to some extent. Reinvented themselves and then. They built these task force where they execute a lot of state warrants. We involved in the one that was worth homicide now. They have a much more dangerous job. I believe that I was there. Because of the type of cases they get involved they react. Latisha tasted they've got a good technical unit where they tracked phones and they're very adept at that. They're very good at that at the time. I wasn't satisfied so speak with the marshals. I wanted a little more coming from police. Officers used to the action daily and nightly so I sat back and watched At marshalls all discourse was bringing in the prisoners. All the time and I noticed. Da was bringing in and in order amount of prisoners Followed by probably the FBI. But I decided that this drug war was in full swing bottling Escobar was obligated number one in the late eighties and Beckton and I sent plus jumped ship. And that's what I did actually applaud with. Fbi in the net interviews both but in the In the end up taking the because the relatively showed me that I would come back to my hotel. That's cool yeah and that is something that with the FBI. The process takes longer. It's it's a little more of a bureaucracy and so it can be very difficult that whole hiring process but also they do like to send you to another area other than from where you came and the one exception to that was New York City. They couldn't keep agents in New York City. So if you came from New York they'd let you go to New York and what was good about that was I got to go home when I joined the FBI. But they gave every other agent that came from outside of New York. Twenty five thousand dollar bonus but the people who because it's so expensive there but the people there who already have been dealing with the expensive they don't get anything. It was really weird. It was really weird government. Yeah but New Orleans. I did get to spend a little time there. Which is why I call it New Orleans now instead of New Orleans. The ancient is downright impressive. What do you think skept? We call it New Orleans. Thought it was in our northern ignorance. Yes I admitted it Francey. Thank you Jim but I spent a you know not not a huge amount of time but a fairly significant amount of time you know not only did we have some serial killers that were operating there a lot of home at the same time in that area in Baton Rouge area but I also got to shoot a movie down there my post retirement from the FBI. And I really really enjoy that town. It's not just the French quarter seen Charles Street. It's just it's just. I duNNo. It's epic. I love that street. I would go up and down the street. I started running down that street. You know because just look at the houses every day but the fact that you were in New Orleans. Which is you know. Some people wouldn't consider it this but you know it's basically a border town. I mean you know and any border town is going to be a major drug destination. Will it is. I mean he's definitely going to be some kind of a hub and so what? I'm hoping today skip is that. I'm hoping you're gonNA tell us some sort of a tale of crime and intrigue and Mystery. And Bananas Because I into Cafe Du Monde I am not ashamed to admit that when my husband and I went there a few months ago I was in town for a conference. I didn't know you then skipper. I definitely would have dropped by. I ate more than my share. I mean I definitely did the tourist thing in a way more benes than is healthy or even seems possible looking back on it so I hope your tail is going to involve all of those elements. So let's just sort of jump in. Do you have a case that you've been thinking about talking about today in this case involves the similar cartel? Y'All everyone knows I love true crime. One of the best things about it is it the further you dig into a story the more layers you uncover. That's what I love the best about the puzzle game best fiends. The more I play the more fun at seems to get every time I reach a new level I uncover a new layer in a new story and I get to take part in that story. The best part of it though is that the longer you play the more exciting it gets. My strategy has changed now. They've been playing best fiends for awhile. I love the scenes. I love the slugs all the colors and the design all the different events and the levels. My friends and family are now addicted. We all play together. I've gotten many people hooked on best fiends and maybe it comes out in my competitive spirit. Okay I admit it. 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Were we indicted guy on multiple multiple murders. I still had some fragments remnants of that case that was trying to finish this guy. That'll finish the case. Is it was Richard Heinous? They called him the Cuban on the street because of all his eerie similarity twos Al Pacino. In the hit movie scarf six finishing up case and really had no plans on doing anything else anytime soon but to wrap that up when an informant called. It was a female informants. She was a stripper down in the Fridge. Score and she says I've got a guy that bring in drugs here. That is bigger than the guy that's been in the papers referring to Risher paint. Course I didn't believe her so kind of brushed raw brusher all filing with going unbeaten with a girl and she had a friend that was and with a Mexican guy down in court and the Mexican guy was supplying all the strip clubs all the workers in the industries down there at the bars and the restaurants and so forth. So we started talking. Debriefing debriefing. Her I'm sorry. We decided that we were gonNA use her to make a buy from Denver to make a Boston another strip so we made a couple buys. We kinda worked herself up the ladder and we identified a guy by the name of Osborne tested before we talk about anymore. Into the case. Could you explain to our listeners? You say you were GONNA make a by from one person to another What does that entail has at work? So we had the STRIPPER INFORMANT. Who is willing to work on our behalf and what we did was. We made a couple recorded phone calls with her to the other stripper. That was living with this Mexican source. She called in. Ask The buy some cocaine. So the girl agreed. We wired up our informant the stripper. We gave her money and we sent her over there where she bought cocaine from Earth. Strip friend while the Mexican guy that was a source sat in the back room so she was an essential issue format as use an active informant where she participated in the buys. We couldn't send anyone with her because the guy was paranoid about anyone. He didn't know typical in the dope. Game being another informant or being on a police officer so met a couple of purchases of cocaine from this girl S. What got us on track watching the Mexican guy in the in the back and what kind of like what sort of a mountain you're talking about. And how do you pay for that? I mean how does that work. These were small amounts like a quarter also half Elsa crack you gotta remember strippers traditionally. Don't buy a whole lot of cocaine. There is for personal. Use mainly so to go in there and ask for a Kilo. Cocaine would be so out of the ordinary that was similar to we bought like a quarter ounce a half hours just intel just by to try to figure out who was in the house where they went afterwards to follow them around to see who they met with and just try to start an investigation and against who all's involved again a house halfheartedly end to it because I was finishing up this other investigation but it started to catch steam when we saw the Mexican guy the next day. When we'RE GONNA send out on bail on him go out to neurons eased in me with a series of guys that we knew were well known drug traffickers area. So I have a question you know as I've unfortunately constantly seen in Hollywood when they depict drug investigations and it goes all the way back in my memory to Miami vice where they would make a by and they would take a switchblade and stick it in and they tasted and say oh this is eighty five percent pure Columbia. Can you please talk to us? About how ridiculous. That is and what you really do. It's on the head that's absolutely ridiculous. We will never do that. What happens afterwards? Usually package in a little baggie. We opened the baggy. We have these little small drug. Id KISSES CALLED FIELD TESTS. Knit kits and you take a little bit out with a knife or something you put in there. And you pop these series of amps and if his cocaine turns up a bluish color this heroine might be a maroon. Color that identifies a drug but before going to make the by you obviously have good idea of what you buy and so you have the kiss all available but you have a kid that you know most likely what you're supposed to buy in this kind of gesture that drug right and that's a field test and then once that turns positive then you put it into evidence and where does it go. We ship it to the degray. Labs were The New Orleans division euro area that the labs in Dallas Texas and then they do the chemical actual real test of the cocaine or whatever substances allowed a lab reports on drugs. They're very boring. It's not nearly as exciting gem as watching the the hero take a nice little cocaine and taste it. Which is the right thing to do because Kim cocaine with with any kind of rat poison or stuff that could kill you ever do they but also you're not allowed to actually do drugs right when you were. Da Unless you get at Doj exemption in advance right correct so if you were to actually ingest some of these drugs especially not knowing exactly what it is not only would you risk getting very sick or dying but certainly lose your job right as absolutely true and you know I've seen situations where undercover agent has been with a couple of drug traffickers and they asked him or her to try the drugs and is typically. The undercover agent has some well story ahead of time such as. I work shortly test me every time I go out. I'm on probation. I can't you know I'm just doing it to make some money is come to the point before when we've had an Asia who wouldn't try drugs that shut down the deal and the dealer wouldn't sell to them for that very reason because you went dry. It's so he assumed that he was the police and he was right. All right so sorry. I interrupted you to ask all sorts of questions. But that's how we do things here at best case worst case because we take our listeners behind police lines and we WANNA know so. You've got this big murder cases multiple murder case that you're trying to clear up and you discover in this kind of Lewd Surveillance. Doing on a maybe. This case will be something but probably not think but suddenly you find that the Mexican contact is going and seeing people that you do recognize. So then what happens? New Orleans is a big small city. It's most of the traffickers bigger drug dealers in that area. If you've been an Asian around there are well known to the DA or to the FBI or any ats so when his Mexican Guy who's unidentified at times starting making trips around New Orleans in talking to drug dealers zip auto shops dachary shops in different places? We knew that we were onto south here. Just coincidentally it was about a week later after doing surveillance on him that we get a call from Jefferson Davis Sheriff's off. They had pulled over guy and when they pulled him over they went through their phones and they found a couple of phone numbers of guys that he was calling in New Orleans. They send it through the local. Da Office and it came back on the case. I had done with the Mexican guy here when they searched the car that the Mexican guys were in. Jefferson Davis Pairs. They found a bunch of drugs in fifteen kilos of cocaine in hidden compartments. So the Mexican guys that had been hold over agreed to follow through and do a controlled. Delivery of the cocaine in a controlled. Delivery is when someone gets Paul or pulled over on interstate with drugs. They decided that point. They're going to cooperate with the law enforcement. You see that guy and they're going to take that drug to its ultimate destination. And they're going to go through with delivering it to the person that is supposed to be receiving it and when that happens in law enforcement. Easley's whoops in and arrest the gathers receive the drugs. Well that's exactly what happened here. The two Mexican guys agreed to deliver it to New Orleans. The only problem was the Mexican guy that we had under surveillance at. That point wasn't going out to get it. He had one of the drug dealers that we were watching was going to do the dirty work for him so they showed up with the Bronco. The two deals that were cooperating. Investing guys and old the hotel parking lot we song go meet with a dealer that we knew dealer bug name. Austin Cast Osman got the keys and then the two dealers left the two Mexicans left in a cab which we'd already prearranged and we went. Put THEM ON ICE. We set up that night in waited on Osborne to go remove the drugs out the car. Eventually under when he turned dark he went out and with another guy. They went underneath it. The cocaine was in the gas tanks and one of the problems of this organization. Is They had a bronco? Wish they'd get good gas mileage again with right so they were having to fill up like every hundred five miles and so they had carefully chart everywhere they went because the the the gas tank compartment took up the majority of the room or the gas would a bet so when casten and his when co-conspirator went out unless the coke we've pulled up and arrested him before you continue to have a question so you mentioned that there were fifteen kilos. We have listeners. From all over the world who listen to this podcast I think probably many of them don't know how large a kilo is. So can you describe its overall physical size? We have some idea. A kilo is like a flat brick object. Obviously two point two pounds as two thousand coke so in other words debt. That answer so that we were going to buy that we bought from the stripper informant there. Thirty six ounces in a kilo gram of coke so fifteen kilos is thirty something thirty four pounds. Whatever pure cocaine at the time I believe is going around twenty three twenty four thousand a kilo. So that's not Jim. You're the math guy that seems like a lot of money. Well it's more than a dollar and less than three million to you know. Thank you John where I know. Because that's the kind of level of math you have in your brain so out true sadly so when you said these guys agreed to do controlled sale right. I failing you skipped over a lot of really intense negotiations there. Could you please Philipson? So what happened was when they got pulled over first. They denied not having any cocaine. We went to go through all the usual stuff. They denied tonight. Neither Canine dog came out in alerted on the car. Eventually one guy started cooperating under threat of going to jail and he says yes I will take the dope I will take the drugs and deliver it to this guy. I have a phone number of a guy in New Orleans. What we didn't know at that time was this. Bronco was one of many that this drug organization INVESCO will use them and he didn't the Guy We rested and tells the whole story. That Bronco was on certain schedule. It had to be there at a certain time because once it stopped and unloaded in New Orleans. They loaded the cash up. That next one was going back to. Mexico in Mexico was not leaving the come to New Orleans so they would pass each other on the way. See You got literal. Someone doing logistics legitimately logistics going on in these drug organizations where they're tracking and timing things so that they know if someone's been intercepted for those so when we got the drugs on our end the guy wouldn't cooperate. I The guy that we already had in custody. He told us you need to get the money and get it headed back to Mexico. Because they're going to be calling me. They're expecting call from me. I'm like we're not paying for this right. I mean he sees the drugs certainly pay twenty three twenty four thousand dollars a kilo for fifteen kilos to send back to. Mexico just wasn't gonNA happen so we had him make a couple phone calls to the Mexican source who was in the way. Will the radio. Mexico recorded them of course and at that point. We just assumed we had arrested. The bad guys investigation was over. It was GONNA to be some small follow-up where we look at the phones and try to debris from an interview on but for the most far that investigation was our was raw. Yeah Oh jen I really want to hear more about this story. Don't you I do too? I can't wait to hear the rest of the historic because it's very intriguing and I'm sure that we've only scratched the surface of how deep this is going to go as correct skip. This is an amazing story. And we can't wait to hear the rest of it and we will when we come back next time and until. Then thank you for being your skipped into our listeners. Thank you for listening to skis. Worst-case signing off