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active CEO Podcast #115 PERFORMANCE Productivity Starts With Happiness

active CEO Podcast

24:04 min | 3 months ago

active CEO Podcast #115 PERFORMANCE Productivity Starts With Happiness

"Healthy? And pizzas latest discover the energy to perform. Brilliance and positively impact the lives of those around them. Be Inspired by world leaders game, changing influences and next level. Gary's these these the active see our podcast whether the ordinary daren't belong. And now you'll highest see R. and founder of energy to perform international speaker, and Ladyship performance coach Craig John's. Kyota and high on Craig Johnson Welcome to episode one hundred fifteen of the active CEO podcast. Decoding the next segment of breaking the C cod. Today we're talking about performance. Productivity starts with happiness. So what is performance in the workplace? It's completion of a task with. The application of knowledge skills and abilities. Performance is. An achievement of the organization in relation with us. It's about goals includes. Achieved, or, accomplishes Through contribution of individuals or teams to the organization's SUCI goals. Employee performance however may refer to the behavior in the workplace and how you perform your work judy's. At you've obligated to them. Performance may refer to work effectiveness quality efficiency at the hospital. As performances, generally I. Acknowledged around the fact that it's accurate, neat attentive to detail consistency, Sarah high standards follows procedures. It? Sounds very systemized. And following. Some sort of rule woke. So miniature had measuring a managing employees from. It's important because it gives you as a leader. The ability to properly gauge work is efficiency. Identify who is working hard and who isn't. And determine how you may properly companies set your workforce and Improve Your workplaces overall productivity. Performance is achieving outcomes in an effective manner. Now how do we get there? Is We talked about? Productivity starts with happiness, so we'll define a little bit on productivity. First. And then we'll delve into what does enjoyment and happiness in a workplace. So productivity is not what you produce. Productivity is what you accomplish. It's not what you produce. It is what you accomplish. So the STA quality of being productive. At St. Charles Duke. Defines productivity as making certain choices in certain ways that moves us from being merely busy to generally productive, and that's really important to understand so. Busy means producing lots. While being generally productive means you actually accomplishing. Things that are going to move the company for that are going to actually. Achieve the vision and the mission of the organization and achieve the goals that you've said. There are two types of productivity workforce productivity toe, which is the total amount of goods and services. Workers Produce a certain period. And then his personal productivity, which is the relevant output of individual in a certain period of time. So relevant outpointing we can also add in the relevant output and accomplishment of an individual and soon period. So, as I employ, they do not have control of the work. Force productivity however. They, have one hundred percent control of a personal productivity. and. It's a state him on that. People consciously choose. So productivity is not what you produce. It is what you accomplish. This look at enjoyment in the workplace here a little. Enjoyment is the greatest recruitment and retention tool in the world. Productivity performance increases when people feel happy and enjoy what they do. As Sydney J Harris One said happiness is a direction. Not Apply S-. So if we want Greta performance and productivity, we I need happiness enjoyment in the workforce. So where is your attention? And what is your intention? That's important to know as a leader and for your employees also to. We're as your attention. And what is your intention right now? Happiness joy moment are positive effected state. That satisfies a desire goal need. It's a pleasure meaning, security, safety, sustenance, esteem, belong Innis, or even love. Which we get enjoyment and happiness from. Our global organizations. It's where individual differences are nurtured. Information is not suppressed of spun. The company adds value to employees. Rather than taking value from them. The company stands for something meaningful. It has purpose. Work is intrinsically rewarding. And it avoids stupid rules for the sake of stupid rules. Now honey engaged employees I fifty percent more likely to exceed expectations. They are also. Highly engage. People outperform those that aren't. Or fifty percent and employee retention eight nine percent in customer, satisfaction and four followed in revenue growth. So. How can you ensure that you have a happy an enjoyable organization? Where your employees have the self determination decision, their own path and big cannibal for their own success. Think about how much. Value, you should extract from your workers, but about how much value to instill in them. How much value to extract from, but how much value instill in your employees? Authentic, organizations are clear about what they do well. And this is important power of happiness enjoyment. The last thing you want. Is Employees to walk away from a meeting or walk away from day going. Is that there is. Just because they achieve something, like may have finished task. delay. She means something for them. because. People want to do good work that matters and makes a difference they want to. Be In a position where they can magnify these strings, not the weaknesses. They want some mobile ptolemy and structure. And with the organization is car here it honest and open. The A place. We're having fun at work is twice. So having fun at work is twice as effective. Then motivational talks aimed at stimulating employees. Think about that. How often do we try motivate? Staff. And let's think about inspire barring ask stuff. Because if we're going to a SPA stuff and make it fun and enjoyable for them. We will reduce absence. We will boost productivity and lower levels of stress. Your culture. Is Your brand so sitting bet coach of enjoyment in happiness that stimulates your employees. Through inspiration and happiness. Grow in evolve your brand because your culture is your brand. Now if he can establish. Your environment at work. where? People find meaning in they work. Route sure to increase their own into an organization engagement empowerment, the career, development, job, satisfaction, individual performance and personal fulfilment. Leads to decreasing absenteeism and stress as you mentioned before. Joining the happiness also helps to create a mental. Health? Mentally healthy workplace. Where the? Enhanced Work Performance and productivity. These improvements for your company's bottom line is improvements to your employees wellbeing. And attracts and keeps great talent. So think about your job design. For your employees. The team component how you how you bring that team together. How you ensure. That your employees have a balance and a barrier between. Well! Not a barrier I want to differentiate between home and work life. And I wrote to bring out their own individuality. Because happiness as those things that make life worth living. You're Happy People Julie more optimistic. have positive emotion resilience, the have purpose that is aligned to the company and positive relationships in. Excel with creative achievement. So if you want to. Create healthy companies. which have joyful and engage individuals? And flourishing communities within. then. It's important that you stimulate an environment where there is positive. Emotion is engagement flow in the work that they do their positive relationships, these meaning and purpose and accomplishment. Because happiness hinges upon the strength north anticipate of people's social connections, the aptitude for human kindness and the constructive role in meaningful community. So. What can lead US do? You can provide for wildlife flexibile imbalance. You can exercise positive reinforcement on a regular basis. You instill folks that aren't payroll is. You can Stein from micro managing. Invest employee's personal and professional growth. And celebrate wins with fun days. That are not just fun to Youtube. Everyone! Because happy workplaces. Benefit with. Happiness being a multiplying effect of the more people are happy, the more that grows out and goes into your customers, and you create this big five. Happy employees have the right attitude. They increase productivity. The encourage risk-taking. Employees support each other and not afraid to make mistakes. Happiness inspires creativity. And people like to work with Happy People. Happy employees bitter with others they fix problems instead of complaining. They get sick less. And make better decisions and learn faster. How can we ensure that we have happy place? Because the happiest people are the more productivity you are likely to create. And develop. Our dive into productivity now. We often make the mistake of. Equating being busy. With being productive. Thrashing not the same thing. Everyone offense twenty four hours a day. As, not just about making the most of all twenty four hours. It's about creating lasting habits of achievement and fulfilment. Instead of chasing endless lists of Thomas. In other words, it's important to lead an environment where people work smarter not harder. Because productivity without, passion. Is just chicken Gos- off a list. So. How can you ensure that your employees have a clip vision for the day? They sit limits on the time. And get products projects done early. So how can we ensure that people have relevant output? You're working on the right things. Because having high productivity. Is! In a way that is not achieving output and accomplishments that is designed an aligned to your vision mission. CAN ACTUALLY USELESS So focusing on relevant outpoint, will you get the right things done? Is Important. And, it's not just doing it once or twice is the consistent output and achievement which drives results. So. How can you ensure that? Your employees and yourself Salita work on the right things, so you more embitter results, so you can realized growth in both employees yourself as a leader and the company. Now Productivity always has some challenges. This plenty of distractions from Chetta in the workplace to social media notifications to random foreign. Kohl's to other life things that are happening. Personal reasons you're. This stresses outside of the workplace that are affecting their ability to be productive. And also not enough training. Sometimes employees in that with task with it's been delegated to the or they have made themselves, but Donna. She have enough training, so it takes them a long time. To actually complete a task for or get close to completing a task to ensure that they have the right education and training to be able to perform. The task for the old I have. South. Established. Some ways to improve productivity. Are Creating a journal and writing them. What they've got to do what they achieved and maybe even a brief. Outline of how they foul to what went wrong. It's no different to an athlete, too has a daily exercise. Journal or diary? Because that's how they get the improvement. You take. Breaks and we talked about this. See your paradise a few episodes back. Where it's you you body and mind can only be productive for a certain amount of period of time before and need to break to recharge and go back to high productivity again and is based on a three to one work to restaurants your. Wick forty five minutes then you have a fifteen minute break. Now Harley productive people depending on which research is anywhere between forty five minutes, and potentially up to one and a half hours. Most of the work is sitting around that forty five minutes to an hour. And then you need a break, so if you work forty five minutes and Bison three to one work, terrestrial shared the need fifteen minute. Break from that before you can actually come back to it and be productive again. If it's an hour in twenty minute break and so on and so. We need to realize that goes. Don't replace system, so we need systems in place to be continuously productive. Not just golf, so he goes and systems. It's important to block out time now Dari or a schedule to ensure that we have time allocated to achieve work, because if it always a meetings or always available for social media or for phone calls then we're not gonNa have that time to actually deliver. We're more effective and productive when we focus on one thing rather than trying to multitask. We need to manage energy as well so ensuring as we talked about those breaks earlier. CEO Period is that you have the energy to continue throughout the day so making sure you're getting society and making sure that you eating well, making sure you're having time to free you mind and recover with purpose. Business is a trap, so we need to be careful that we don't fall into it of thinking that just because we're busy, we're actually productive. How we can help us by sitting rituals cues to switch us on or off work, and to get US focused on task. We need to figure out. How do we productive? And how do we move away this distractions when it's very chaotic, concert and things are changing so fast like many of you of experiencing covid nineteen. Surgeons show. We have high productivity. We need to ensure there is one internal motivation. To it relies on the personality of the person is sometimes. If you high productivity, some personalities done quite soon as to. How can we BE OPTIMISTIC RATHER THAN PESSIMISTIC? Comes down to natural talent. Training Environment Support on management into energy. and has before. You need to understand. That you can't escape from one task to the next to us the next to us or try multitask because your brain request time to disengage from one set of tasks or tasks to Inaba. Spark about it in the beginning. Productivity starts happiness. So how can you create that happy workplace so that you can deliver? We'll sit up the environment for Gripe productivity to to occur. And people have one hundred percent control of the choices. They make impersonal productivity. How are you going to shore that you have the environment that allows the state of mind. To deliver great performance. In your organization or your team. If you found? This episode has an impactful influence on new employees. Share with your people and your team, so they too can be come a world class leader. Now coming up on episode one hundred sixteen of the act of see your poke cast. We have David Lindsay and we're GONNA be talking about. Performance and sitting goals and What it takes. To be effective as a person. And in the workforce. You, you're GONNA learn all sorts of things around. How do overcome adversity breaking your arm anew amerson competition? And setbacks like ACL injuries as a professional athlete. So join me and listening to a very energetic in highly engaging and enjoyable conversation. With David Step aside. To learn more about breaking the than Goto Craig John's dot com the. Or join the conversation on facebook Lincoln and Instagram by searching Craig Jones or Craig John's official. So thank you very much for listening. We really appreciate it and look forward to your feedback and reviews and comments about each episode. I'm Craig John's. This is the act of see your podcast with ordinary. Don't belong. Join the active, See I movement by visiting www dot energy to perform dot com. That's an odd number to perform dot com Chevy's podcast on link team and face show to tagging and G to perform lever of you on I two news. Drop us a line with your feedback questions and connect with us on the energy to perform facebook and instagram pages. Be sure to check out the next active. See Our podcast where the ordinary giant belong.

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Episode 105: Walking With The Dead

The Confessionals

1:09:40 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 105: Walking With The Dead

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That's Lowes dot com forward slash professionals. Get yourself some craftsman because crassness coming out some fantastic products. That are going to stand the test of time. This is all circulating around the base that a giant killed with almost talk about. Free long bony fingers, we underneath the door curl up to grab it. And then disappeared. When he came over to Nate. Dude, he slithered over to make. Giant comes out of the cave with her all frozen. Pretty starts running and firing at the giants. The giant move. Running really fast. It's spirit, Dan this. This. Somebody else shoot him shoot him in the face. It basically potato. Got about fifteen yards. White me rate that for my blow the head off. And I look over and there are two mall, gray. Hornet, and they're literally I'm getting pulled off that reach my hand interest Bush, and I touch bear couldn't breathe couldn't move because I know see him come on Stor. Yup. Welcome to the show everybody. You're listening to the confessionals. I am your host. Tony merckel. Thank you for being here. If you've had an encounter or store you'd like to share with me on the show. Go ahead and shoot me an Email by Email addresses, the confessionals podcast at gmaiLcom. That's the confessionals podcast at gmaiLcom or go. The website the confessionals podcast dot com. Hit the connection section, and you can reach me that way as well. I the way works for me. Just get a hold of me. Now, let's get into the art bell. I tunes five star ratings and reviews. This is for anybody. Who goes I tunes and leaves a five star rating review. You get a shut out on the following week show and this week shadow is Jones E sixty four rail. Jackie seventy nine Casey guns. O T Lowry. Eight Jeff Rena T N voles girl, thirty four Melissa Rafe paranormal facts, finders and fun with a heart emoji. Thank you very much. We're going to leave it a five star Ray. Rating review. It means a lot to me because it definitely helps the show rise in the charts and get above sasquatch chronicles in I tunes. I really do. Appreciate a friends. Thank you very much. Now, let's move onto the patriots shutouts this everybody who goes a patriot dot com forward slash professionals and signs up to become a patron to help support the show on monthly basis, and this week shutouts is I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, but the name is H O U A last initial is why I think it's Vietnamese. I'm sorry. I'm not sure how to pronounce that. But thank you very much for signing up to be a patron next up. We have Tanya m Boyd a an Alana e thank you very much. We're going to patriot and signing up to be patrons. It really doesn't mean. A lot to me. It helps support the show on that monthly basis. It really does help to show a lot. So thank you very much. Now this week we have Christina coming on and Christina's sharing a lot of different experiences. She's had with ghosts. Where even on the Queen Mary? She was touched by goes. We're actually left marks on her shoulder. But she's also going to be sharing these. Variances that she's had with dreams where when she's dreaming. She's actually dreaming about people's deaths and seeing it and feeling it through their eyes. She's actually going through what they go through during their last moments here on earth, and it's very very interesting. So I really hope you guys enjoy this show. Let's get to it. All right tonight. I have Christina coming on with me. How you doing Christina? I'm good. How are you doing well doing well? So this is going to take to I messed up the first take here, but you've had some ghost encounters stuff throughout your entire life leading up to a pretty intriguing one that you emailed me about. So why don't you just kinda start from the beginning stuff? And when did this all start for you as far as experiencing these ghosts and stuff in your life? I would say it started right around four or five where I would just reaonably see things out of the corner of my eye, or I would just it's there's an old myth like if someone walked over your grave, you get a shiver, and I would get that every now, and then by certain places, and I would research, and it would end up something bad happened there. And then I would typically get a weird dream about it afterwards. Interesting. So the dreams came after the feelings that you had. Yeah. Pretty much. So my grandma had an old house, and it's in north county St Louis, and it started out as shack 'cause I did research on later. It started out as a shack. And then as the guy got money he built onto it. And I'd always get weird feelings in the basement because it had one of those huge sunk in tub like you could fit like sixty people in it, and it had an old coach shoot and things like that. And I've always gotten weird feelings down the basement area, especially when I was younger, and that's where my mom stayed. 'cause we lived with her when I was little. So I when I did the research on the house, it couldn't tell me one thing or the other of what happened it just something happened. And then I've noticed as I got older, I would go past familiar places within the area, and when we moved out to St. Charles, it would happen the same way where I would get this weird feeling, and then I will get a weird dream about somebody dying. And it's not always a futuristic dream. It's mostly dreams of the past like where I'm living through their is their last moments of life. And it's always creeped me out. And nobody knows what it is my grandma even bought me across because she thought the demons were trying to get to me or something. So it's always been a weird experience for me. After my grandfather died in ninety eight we were still living in that same house 'cause we didn't move out until two thousand one so from ninety eight to two thousand one I would see shadow people, and I don't know too much about it because I've done research here and there on it. And I could never find anything conclusive about what exactly they are. But ever since he passed I would feel it would feel like if America presence like, you know, like an old family member had stopped by visit. But I would say shadow people even during the day. And there was one particular instance, where we me and my mom were in the kitchen, and she was cooking. And then all of a sudden a Cup would fly from one end of the room to the other like someone had literally took their hand. And knocked it across the room. And then I would see a shadow person Dr out of the room, and so after that it stopped for a little bit. I'd say about a year or two and then. When right when I started high school in two thousand five I was start seeing me shadow people again 'cause I moved in with my grandma at that point. And it's it's always around my older family members is what I've noticed. I've always had that rare occurrence where I'd be by myself, you know, just going to the store or something, and I would see something out of the corner of my eye and there'd be nobody there. It was just literally a wall. So that was freaky for me as well. Because it's like, I know there was somebody there. I saw somebody going that direction. But that's a wall. You can't walk through walls. In. So my mom had always suggested that it was family members that had passed on that had followed me around particularly migrate great-grandfather, which I was five when he passed away. I've never I don't have an explanation for that. At all. I don't know. Exactly. How to explain it? But that's just what she told me. And I guess I just went with it because it seemed right because it wasn't like I felt something bad whenever I saw these things. It was always something positive like someone was watching over me. So I just kind of went with that theory. You know, it could be, you know, a random other good person up in heaven, or whatever you believe in. But that's just how I took it and how I felt rolled with it to explain the explainable. It was also about that time right after high school that the dream started getting intense, and I was always like a big Titanic fan. I've always been a big ship fan like the old nineteen hundred steamships and things like that. Because my dad and uncle were in navy. So I had this natural fascination with nautical things in. So I would get these weird dreams in. It seemed one particular really has stuck with me for a long time. And I cannot forget it for the life of me. It's these two men in a world pool and they're being sucked under ship. And then that's where it ends. And I had that dream for a month straight. And I would tell my mom about it. And she's just like, no, no, it's just, you know, it's just you bring you know, 'cause the just puts random things together from what you've seen you've probably read something and it's just reoccurring. Well, when I turned sixteen we decided to go cross country to for the fourth of July in my birthday. And I really really liked the Queen Mary at this point. I like I said before I mean, huge fanatic. So they didn't tell me 'til we got to Long Beach. Hey, by the way, we're going to spend the night on the Queen Mary. And of course, me I'm tickled pink. So I did a little research on it. When we got there in the first few hours before we did this paranormal two or later on. And one of the stories was is that the Queen Mary actually ran over one. I think it was a small gunboat if I remember correctly in these. People got dragged under the ship in once. I realized that the minute I was done reading it. I just kind of sat back and stared at the screen like, wow. That was my dream. That's what happened. So it really it. Didn't exactly scare me. I just I had more that fascination. I wanted to know more about the ship. And then my mom told me, hey, we're going to do this midnight tour, which by the way after this experience. They don't do this kind of tour anymore. They do midnight tours, but not this particular one. And it seemed like they stopped after I had said something to one of the guys. Now, this tour is one of those. Oh, we'll take you in into the spots that are normally quote unquote, inaccessible to the public, which it's like, okay? Yeah. Whatever you whatever you need to get the Blissett in. But I was fascinated because it was paranormal I've always been into it because of my fear Ince's. So we did it and they took us through the different parts of the. Ship one. There is quite a few different parts where people had passed away which why the Queen Mary gets its famous. It's the most haunted hotel in the world because it's permanently docked in the use it as a hotel and tourist trap type thing one of them. Now this story, I didn't know until we got there. They took us through the boiler room. And they told us the story about a man who had died during a fire drill in what they would do is. They would play a game whenever they were doing test or drills, and they would jump in between the bulk kits which were automatic. And they would shut during these these tests, but you had a certain amount of second seconds to get through. Will this man didn't make it their theory was he was trying to go back for a wrench and ended up getting stuck in the bulkhead. He literally got crushed to death. But he, but he didn't die in the door. It was only after they opened the bulkhead. And this was hours later after them trying to figure out what was the best Lucien. He died hours later after they got him out of the door, and they gave him morphine. Once they did that is body. Just completely shut down. I didn't know that story when I first walked in there so instantly when we got through that particular door. I got that typical shiver and I looked around. 'cause my first instinct is I feel that feeling there has to be something in here. So I looked around to see if I could see shadow people, but I didn't really see anything. And of course, I guess it was just part of their flair. They pulled out the Dowsing rods and said, hey, would you like to talk to this guy and they'd pass it around the group? But when it got to me, they didn't move at all. But when they were passed in my mom, it would always point to me. Now, I'm kinda if the Dowsing rods because there's a lot of people that say, oh, it's just your hand making micro movements. Doing what you want it to do? I don't know it struck me as odd to me. But every time I would have the Dowsing rods. It would be dead silent. They wouldn't move. But my mom would get him. It would turn to me quite frequently. And you'd hear little popping noises in the back of the engine room, which obviously they don't use. And they haven't used some sixties. So that was it was like, okay. You know, that's kinda cool. You know, maybe it's real you knows? So the tour goes on and we start going through the other parts of the ship. They take you to the propeller room where they do a little back history things like that they take you to the second class swimming pool, which is now converted into theater another one which I was really looking forward to is the first class women pool where there was a story of a little girl named Jackie who had actually drowned in that pool. And her ghost is said to have haunt that area in ever since she will not go away one of the things that they did was they would take you into the changing rooms, and they would put you in a stall. And they would tell you to close your eyes, and they turn up all the lights, and they won't tell you why I the minute they did that. I would hear all the other people just kind of mumbling talking. Each other. And I would hear people like, oh, this is stupid. I didn't hear anything. Do you? See anything you feel anything it? Of course me being me. I try to out and I close my eyes, and I focus and I can hear people walking. And it's not like the people in our group in front of us and in next to us who are sitting in these in these stalls. I keep here. What footprints like someone just got out of a pool and they're heading towards that room. And at that point after that was done. I walked up to our guide who was supposed to be a medium. And I said, hey, this is what I'm experiencing is this normal. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. You know, it's a haunted ship. It's an old ship things. Like this happen. Okay. I don't feel like he took me seriously. Okay. So we'll go on then. So one of the last places, they take you is the bulkhead down in the boiler room. Where there was a man who was scalded to death by broken steam pipe. And as we were telling me the story, I felt a burning sensation on my shoulder. And I was wearing spaghetti straps. And I thought maybe my mom had her hand on my shoulder. So I look. Her hands not there, and it's kinda dark room. So I didn't see anything on my skin immediately in. I'm in the back of the group. We're backed up against a wall. And the only person next to me is the second medium assisting the group and he was nowhere near me. He was about five feet away. So I knew it wasn't anybody touching me. So at first I thought, okay, maybe it's just me being paranoid. And we're in this room for about twenty thirty minutes as they're talking about the various different things that has happened and the entire time my shoulder feels like it's on fire. So Finally, I say something to my mom. I said mom, we gotta get outta here. Like, I'm in pain. And she's like, what do you mean? My shoulder hurts it hurts really bad. It feels like I'm being burned Warri lean it against anything. No. I'm not I'm just wait here. So finally, they let us out of the room, and they kinda give us a break. And everyone else kinda wanders off in me, and my mom go to. To our own little corner. And she looks at my shoulder. And she said did anybody put a hand on you? I said no why she's like look she took a picture which unfortunately that was several laptops ago. So we don't have them. She took a picture, and she showed me, and it's a man's handprint. And it almost looks like someone was on one side of me like someone that you would hold your daughter. You know, just a gentle little handprint. It didn't look like it was like a forceful thing. If that makes makes sense. I know it's hard for me to describe. But it didn't seem like it was like a malicious handprint or anything. It was just like, you hope somebody shoulder, and it was a man's imprint 'cause we compared mine in hers, and they were both both of our hands were way smaller than this particular handprints. So of course, again with my mom this time, we go up to the medium. And we said, hey, this just happened. We have proof that something just happened in that room. And then the guy finally opens up and says, well, you know, Disney did rent this place out a few years ago, and they've had several instances of actresses being slapped in the face by somebody in that room. Because for whatever reason they used it as dressing room. So they're already been documented evidence before we came that people would be touched in some way in that room. But it was always violent. I was the only one that didn't get hit or pinched or anything. It was just like the guy was did guy whoever it was. And I immediately knew it was the guy who got boiled to death. It was almost like he was just amused. And just standing next to me listening like, you know, you know, you hear this crap that there's feeling that's the feeling that I got so. That I probably should have been freaked out about. But I wasn't because I've always been into it. So I was like, wow, that's cool. Actually, haven't experienced to go along with it. And that other people have seen, and I'm not crazy. So after that room, they took us to if you other side little rooms and did a little bit information on it. And then they ended the tour which was at three in the morning. Now, the time my stepfather and my youngest brother were still in the state room and they were asleep because he was really young. He was only a couple of months old when we did this and me, and my mom decided we can't read English. Let's go in these places. It says no personnel allowed. So we'd go and sneak into the other parts of the Queen Mary that you're not particularly supposed to see that only certain amount of people are supposed to go. And we would take a ton of pictures now at the time one of the places that we went was the captain's cabin which they had turned into a museum, which is pretty close to the bridge. Now, we didn't see anything with their own two eyes. But when my mom was back at the pictures right outside the captain's cabin. You could see the bottom half of a woman in a long skirt in an almost looks like she was a mid twirl. And it was all white. So that was interesting. We went to the wheel house, and I was playing with the ship's wheel, but you're not supposed to 'cause it's all roped off. But I don't read English because this is like my childhood dream to come see the ship. So of course, I'm not gonna read the signs I'm going to go and do whatever I want. It's three in the morning who's gonna stop us. I the minute I touched the ship. And that's in this is where my other weird thing had started to happen after that experience being touched anything, I touched in that ship. Whether it be a wall or chair in I would get this. Weird feeling in my hands in. I almost see like a flash of a memory of the last person that touched it. And I know this seems crazy, but that actually happened for a long time after I was on that ship. So for a while I would have to wear gloves. And of course, that's kind of embarrassing because people are in the middle of some are, why are you wearing oh, you know. I, you know, I just hurt my hands, and it's really sensitive touch things. Whatever excuse I needed to to make them not ask questions so ever since then I still had the dreams. And then I gain this weird new ability. I guess you could call it where I would cut something, and I will get a flash through that person's eyes of who last touched it what they were thinking what they were dealing. That only lasted for about. I'd say three to five years because I was still in high school. So my mom always attributed it to overactive imagination which wasn't. So after a while that particular thing died down, and I haven't had it since and I'm twenty nine now. And this was when I was sixteen the only other thing that I still experience constantly is the shadow people, which they seem to follow me around matter where I go, and I get the weird dreams of living a past person's life in the last few minutes of life, and it kinda works like when I bought something with my hands where I would see the last moments. There is what they were feeling what they were doing in. What was around them at time. It's like I would see if a your place, but it would be rewound to like fifty or a hundred years 'cause I've had dreams where it was like early nineteen hundred Chicago, and I had this vision during my sleep of this woman. In you know, the typical petticoat and all the heavy clothes and she's walking down the street at night. And she sees a man. And then all of a sudden my dreams. It's weird things. Like that that I've always always had. Other than that since I've gotten older, and now that I have my baby who just turned seven months a few days ago. Thank you. That seems that seems to have died down. However, my dog did pass away in April from some type of aggressive cancer that it pops up one day like this dog could be fine. And then the next day there on the ground, and it's like they're drunk, and that's how this particular cancer affects them she couldn't move. She couldn't eat, and I knew there was something seriously wrong when she wouldn't take a treat of my hand because I'll be I'll be honest. We called her marshmallow for reason. This is golden not a golden a German, husky mix the German shepherd, husky mix. So she was a pretty big dog. She was you know, about knee height. But she was stocky. So we always called her toasted marshmallow. After she had passed away. I would smell. Weird things in it. I knew her because she had had her for about ten years. I would be out in the mall or at the gas station waiting to get cigarettes or pump gas or whatever, and I was smell her for and I look around 'cause you know, after that something like that happens. You you expect to hear those things as a million noises like the jingle of her collar things like that. I would hear that for literally a month straight where I would be out nine near my house. I would be at my mother's house across town. And I would hear that jingle. And I said mom did us do something. She's like no just been sitting here, you sure. Yeah. We're the dogs. All my dogs are outside. Okay. That's weird. You know, can't really here with the house and the dog thing on the other end of the yard. You can't really hear too. Well, they're jingle of their dog tags or the collar or anything 'cause it literally sounded like she had just shook her for and it makes it for millions that I'm used to. I I don't know if that's maybe Hoosen eating because I was so distraught. But I still kind of experience those things from time to time where I would feel something brush up against my leg in there's nothing there. And that's something that she used to do because she liked being on her. But so she would come up brush against my leg. And then lean on it in every now, and then that's still happens. It's it's like she hasn't moved on yet that she's still kinda worried about me. And that's always the feeling that I get whenever that particular thing happens. So I don't know maybe I'm just a weird magnet for random activity. But it always seems like it's something that has been a personal connection for me something that was a part of my life for a long time in that's where most of the energy and stuff is focused around. It's been a long time since I've seen an orb. I was about ten when. That stopped. But I would still see things I would still smell things that weren't there. I was still feel things that weren't there. And it all seemed to heighten after I went to the Queen Mary. It's like like that guy touching me. Opened up a whole new world to me like something just clicked in. I was immediately more sensitive to it. But in the recent months, I haven't had anything like that. It seems like that's stopped about a month ago, which I can't explain it. Is it randomly starts and stops where Elsie something for a while for most of my life in this case. And then all of a sudden it'll stop for a while. So I might get more experiences as I get alert. But you never know because I've also heard that some people who are very sensitive to the paranormal sometimes they lose that ability. If if it's not practiced or certain way or something just doesn't happen for a long time. They kind of lose it ability. But that's just from what I've read. And of course, not everything on the internet is true. But that was one of my main reasons why I wanted to share my story because. The dream. Especially is a bizarre situation. And I've asked plenty of people who are acclaimed mediums or their clairvoyant or they're really really tuned to this, and they have experienced I've had them hang up on me. Because they don't know what to do. They don't know what answer to give me those tell me. Oh, well, maybe it was something eight well, maybe you just had too much sugar. And you're who sedating. So nobody is really taking me seriously about that. But as far as the other things go like sing shadow people that tends to be a common thing that certain people do see. So they would address that. But they wouldn't address my dreams, and I would be instantly labeled as crazy, no more conversation. Just click done. So I was kinda hoping that you would have some insight for me about that. Or maybe somebody. That's listening could point me a direction how to understand this. Because as far as I know, I'm the only person says ever experienced this. I haven't really gone out a whole lot because of the baby and the recent months, so I haven't been able to really talk to anybody in the year, you know, outside sources, but. My mom is clear where she'll she won't see things while she's awake. She'll see things when she's sleeping. She'll get the futuristic dreams of things that will happen. I always get the ones that are in the past. And it's always violent, and it's always somebody dying. Whether it be them drowning or them being murdered of some sort. And I have to tell you that is extremely irritating. Because some of these dreams I was able to like pinpoint a name of some sort in research it, and it would be something like a local crime had happened or a local tragedy had happened. But for the most part. A lot of these people. I don't know who they are. I don't know. What the situation was or how even to go about it to research. I can just tell the time period at least general time period of what they see around them. Or if they're in a house or outside, and what the people there interacting with or wearing. In a lot of it. I have to say a lot of my dreams were like I'd say the Tory times it like early eighteen hundreds. Can never tell what city it is can never tell an exact year. But that's always the feeling that I've got whenever I get these dreams. So these dreams than because they're so far back in time. That's probably the best way to tell that. You're not seeing some that hasn't happened yet. But it had happened already in the past because of the way people were dressed my correctly insane saying that. Yeah. That's literally the only way I'm able to tell a general time period because I'm also history buff because of all of this. I mean, when you get these dreams for so long about things in the past not just like twenty years, but like hundreds of years 'cause I've gotten one from the evil times in the only reason why do that it was because they were like shacks, and it's not like like nab original shack. It's like someone who lives in the countryside. But the pig farm refer living. It's weird. Well, you know, it's different. It's different. And I think that there's a lot of people that experienced are experiencing things similar to you may not with the dreams per se. But just in the fact that the all the different things you've experienced I do think that people who have tendency there's something different about some people. I think this is my own personal opinion. I have no science to back this up. But I do think that there 'cause I tend to hear people say I had this happened to me. And then this happened to me, and then this happened than this happened. It's rare that I to come forward and say I saw a ghost when I was seven years old. And that's it now that does happen. But a lot of times people that come forward, they say, this is a recurring thing this. This is something that always happens. But at the same time, there's people that go through their whole lives not believing goes because they'd never seen a ghost. And so I think there's something that there's something. About you. That's different than certain other people that allows you to to to see these things to be triggered by them. Or whatever. I mean, when you have these dreams is it something that like that you're touching that that spurt that spawns that dream to come to you that day or that night. Or is this something that just completely random you haven't given touch anything with history or anything like that? It's just bang. It's there. It's kind of fifty fifty because as you know, when Saint Louis, I don't know how well known it is outside of Saint Louis, but we have the length mansion libary. When I went down there because I'm also fascinated by their histories, well, and I would touch rain things in their house. That was supposedly original I didn't get any dreams. I didn't get anything of them dying committed suicide or anything like that. So kind of fifty fifty just really depends on what it is. I guess like if it has a violent enough past for me to be triggered. I hear people talk about this. And you know, if you were to look this up on the internet or something it's probably going to say that it's not real or it science fiction or something like that. But it sounds like you're an M path. Like you like like, you have this ability to tap into other people's feelings, and unfortunately, it's feelings of people who already passed, but because one of the things that impasse typically have is dreams. That's one of the things that they go through his the dreams of, you know, having these these different visions things like that. I don't know at ton about that per se other than that. That's what it sounds like to me. And it sounds like it's something that your mom is as well. I wonder if this is something that can be passed on through generation like so your mom if she passed it on to you. And if you pass it onto your did, you say, you had a daughter or son. Now, I have a daughter a daughter. So I wonder I wonder if some that gets passed on through generations, did your mom ever say anything about her mom having this ability. Mike grandmother used to but ever since she started going to an agnostic church about five years ago and ever since she's been going. She will not talk about it at all. So I don't know if she had an extreme experience or something happened or she just decided, okay? This is my new religion. Now, I'm just not going to believe in anything. But the bible which like, okay? You know, I totally support. You know, whatever you wanna do. But I know you're having these experiences, and you won't talk to me about it. And it's really irritating. But honestly, I really hope that this doesn't pass on to my daughter because when I was little I was hurried my grandmother. And my mom would say that I would experience what was similar to like baby nightmares where I would just cry in my sleep or I be extremely uncomfortable. And I've noticed she started doing that as well. So every time she has. A baby nightmare. I really hope. It's not that that she's having these kinds of dreams, even though she can't understand it. I would imagine that it would still be something. Terrifying. For her to experience something and not being able to like vocalise it or really understand what she's seeing. Hopefully, it doesn't get passed onto her. If it does is sounds like you're you're very open to discussing things, which is going to be helpful for her. If it does happen because she'll have somebody that you can turn to talk to. And you know, you're not gonna pretend it doesn't happen. You're gonna you know, tack head on and right? So it's just it's just one of those things that tell you, it's it's different in, you know, I obviously, you know, that because you've been hung up on quite a few times. But I don't I wouldn't say that it's impossible. I definitely believe what you're saying. To me. I I'm not sure how it all works. I would have definitely, you know, seek some other people's opinions on that stuff, you know, to try to figure this out. But I'm sure you have done that as well. Have you done any like trying to research this online stuff in reading any? Forums to see if anybody else has his ability and stuff, or it has just been left to China talk to somebody in person in them, not believing you. I've tried both in both situations. It's kind of the same where I would do a ton of research on my own without posting anything to anybody and there'd be absolutely zero on it at all about the subject. Just more people having dreams of the future. So I had always felt like I was alone in that. So that's when I started like posting to forums and then talking to people in person or on the phone, and I get the same response nothing. Nobody knows what this is. Nobody's heard of it before they get really freaked out about it. And then hang up on me or just not reply. I don't understand why people freaked out about that to me it doesn't because I talked to so many people with stories like this to begin with. But it doesn't freak me out. It's make me feel like I need to run away from you or anything like that. It's it's I find it very interesting and fr. Frustrating for you to have to go through it, not understanding what's going on have you and your mom ever had the similar experiences at the same time. Like has your mom had a dream in? You had a dream around the same time. No, it always seems to be random, and I don't even think she gets those kinds of dreams anymore because she hasn't talked about it in a long time. And she's pretty open with me. She had me when she was sixteen. So she's always been very open minded with me from very young age. And while her, and I don't really exactly get along. All the time we still talk in especially about like paranormal things, but she hasn't mentioned anything in a long time. I'd say the past few years. So I I even questioned if she still gets those streams. Is this something because I know you said that would you say the past few months really hasn't. Nothing happened around you, right? Is this something that was so consistent that a few months that goes by with no activity is a rarity. I would say so because I went from having dreams like that every single night to nothing. It would just be the typical dreams like, you know, you did that day or just like reading fantasy like you you and your family at the park just. Not I wouldn't call them weird. Just typical dreams that you would experience which I was happy about. But at the same time, I would ask myself what's going on? Because this is what I'm used to. I'm used to seeing death in violence every single night, and I've gotten used to it. And that's kinda sad to say. But. When you're used to something like that every single day in you kinda like, oh, I wonder what kind of Jamie gonna have tonight. And it doesn't happen. It starts. I started questioning it after week. But I kind of wonder if it's because I had the baby, and I've been very hands on and focused with her, and that's why I don't have them anymore because I have some type of distraction from it. But that's just the. That's interesting distracted mind easing the dreams. I wonder I really would wonder I would like to find out. I should say, you know, if your mom if there's something going on her life is a strapping her from these dreams, or if she's ever since a similar pattern when you were born with to stop for her have you have you ever talked to her about that has did she ever experiencing experienced like it going away when you were baby because she was stranded. He never mentioned anything like that that it would have like a temporary break type thing is just something that always happened to her. Now, recently, she has been very distracted in that sense. She's been more politically active in more involved with community and doing dog rescue and things like that. So she goes plenty things throughout the day to keep her busy. 'cause she's also a stay at home. Mom. My youngest brother is type one diabetic. And she home schooled him as well. So I guess in my mind. My theory would apply to her is she has a son with a very serious disease. And that takes most of her time is making sure that he's okay because they're constantly throughout the night because his blood sugar, even though he's on a pump. He has a reader that will tell them if he's too low or too high. And of course, he's thirteen fourteen years old he likes to get up midnight snack like most teenagers do and he's not always aware of how much eating so I've always kinda wondered if that was something that would be distracting her. 'cause like I said she hasn't mentioned anything for a long time. And it's not something that she would hide from me or heap from me. It's very interesting. It's very interesting. The idea of being distracted stopping these things from happening. I really hope it doesn't get passed on to your daughter. If it does I'd have so many questions. So many questions because. You know, maybe you could do this. I don't know. I I hate to make it sound like you're experimenting on your talking. But if if it happens to your daughter, I would I would do is. I would try to execute on that theory, and I would get your daughter involved in things to keep her distracted. Whether it's sports dance, whatever it is art and try to find what makes her tick and let her dive deep into it. You know and see if that helps to saside these these dreams or you could do it with yourself as well. I mean, if it happens again, if it starts kicking up again, as you get more into the routine of being a mom, and you've got, you know, the baby seven months old right now, I have a seven month old right now myself. So like, it's it's hectic right now. But as the baby gets older and stuff, and you had that more of a routine where it's like, you know, kid understand what you're saying. You say go to bed the kid goes to bed if that. If that time period comes and your dream star kicking up again stuff. I'd be interested to see if you could find something to distract yourself again to see that actually makes it stop. Because if it actually makes it stopped then. Well, then just leaves a lot of questions because that now it's like, okay. So is there something going on in our minds that if left if if our minds are left to themselves go in a certain direction, I don't if that makes sense of what I just said. But they by distracting your mind doesn't allow your mind to go into a certain direction that naturally inclined to go that gives you these experiences. Right. Yeah. I totally understand that. And that's. Kind of what I was wondering if there's just something awakened in my mind that if I don't have anything else to focus on immediately goes to that instantly. And then I start having the dreams, and then the feelings again, so I hope they don't come back. But you know, it's the mind is so confusing, and it's so complex like, yeah. We have studies done in people understand it better than they did twenty years ago. But there are still new things that we are finding out every day and not just about the mind, but the human body, so it could just be a once in a lifetime thing where if you are distracted enough it just goes away permanently. Because you're not I guess in a sense using that ability, which in my sense, it would be subconscious. I'm not purposely doing it. I don't wish to see those dreams. It just happens. But with you know, my boyfriend being a trucker, and then me being a stay at home. Mom, I have a lot of different things to worry about in focus on throughout the day. So my mind just I guess generally stays away from that. Because there are other things that are more important. You know, have you looked into the idea of being an empath 'em path can't ever say that word. Have you ever looked into that though being an impasse? Yes. Yes. I have. And I've had over several of my friends. Tell me that I am one. And I've done the research on my own in. I could probably would under percent say that I am. I'm very attuned to especially other people that are close to me I used to freak people out all the time when I was working at a gas station that I helped co manage I would have a regular customer come in. And I could just tell them look in their face that they had a bad day. And I said, hey, some happened today. Like well. Yeah. Of course, how could you tell them like oh, the look on your face? Well, yeah. Yeah. This this and this happened. I'm like you got a phone call from your wife today. Didn't you? How did you know? I don't know. I just know and it's the same with like the radio I could be seeing a song. And I get in the car turn on the radio. It's the exact same spot. The exact same lyrics of what I was singing in. It would just continue on flawlessly. So I've always known. It feels the deal for me when I was about twenty three and I had neighbors that were. The way they were raised her and her girlfriend. The girl that I would talk to a lot. Her mom was from Haiti. I believe is what she told me. And they practiced voodoo. I forgot what part of it. Exactly. 'cause I know there are different sects in each different types of religion and things like that. But she she definitely told me that I'm an impasse. And I have a tab of an energy empire in me. Do you know what that is basically sucking the energy of other people? Yes. Because I've also had people coming after a while of hanging out with me for so many hours that they're just tired. They wanna go home. They don't to do this anymore. And it's not been anything rude. It's just they just think they they had a long day to which I kinda have to like highest mile and go. Yeah, that yeah. That's fine. You can go home. We'll talk tomorrow. 'cause you can't really explain that to somebody who's close minded in not all of them are not all of my friends are but in there used to what I've gone through. And they've heard my store, and they'll accept it. Because it's not them. It's somebody it's happening to somebody different. So to them it's just in the back of their mind. Like, oh, yeah. Right. It's probably just you know, you ate too much sugar before you went to bed. So I just kinda have to keep my mouth closed and not argue with them. Like, no, it's it's just really me. I'm sorry. I can't control that has your boyfriend ever suggested that he gets strain when he's Reggie for while. He's kinda the same way is I am. So I think we feed off of each other in that sense. So neither one of us really get tired. Exactly, it's just we get worn out. It's just like we were gonna go do something today. But let's just have lead and get stuff done at the house. But it hasn't been anything to extreme where he's just like I need to go to bed because I also have to factor in that. He's a trucker. He's only home on the weekends. And you were trucker as well. So you understand the daily stresses that he goes through, you know, fighting with the shippers, and well, you only have one polit unload. Why are you taking five hours? Nobody else here. So that's where I think most of his tiredness comes from. It's very rare that he gets tired just from being around me or the baby or something like that. Because I'm pretty sure she'll be an impact as well because he's an impact, and he's an energy vampire. So when you have two parents that are like that. It's like, I'm sorry Sheild. You're doomed you're gonna have this stuff. Well, I guess at least you're preparing for that now. So when it happens, you can have a game plan in place on how to help her through it as best you can it's an it's an interesting thing. It's very interesting thing, you know, talking to vampire right now. But no, it's I feel bad for us. I feel bad for us because this is something that obviously, you don't want to have it definitely creates unrest in your life. And earlier you said about how forget how you said basically referred to how you're envious of your mom for having the type that she has is it because you feel like you'd be able to help somebody before it actually happens or what it's partly that. Because I definitely was people aware if somebody needs help I'm not gonna walk on like, it seems like most of the public does these days where somebody needs help like a homeless man sitting outside and it's hot outside. I'll stop and give them some water. I'll definitely help somebody. So I would love to have those kinds of dreams too. Like if I just happened to meet that particular person like, hey, don't get in your car today. You're going to have a car accident. But I mostly jealous because it's not violent. It's what like I said. I'm used to it. Now in no person should really used to seeing violence and murder and suicide nobody should really be okay with that. And and just that's just the part of daily life thing. So that's where my jealousy comes from is that most of hers are positive. It's very rare that she had a negative dream about the future that it was going to affect somebody in a negative way. So, yeah, if I had that that would be a lot better. You know what? When you have these experiences when it happens hell often is it a murder or something like that. Is it or is is just somebody? Sometimes it's somebody laying in their death bed. Just passing away peacefully at seven days. I would say five of would be during about murder. It's very rare for me to have had a dream that someone had just peacefully died in their sleep or their in their deathbed surrounded by family, which is I've had a feel those but not as many as someone committing suicide like jumping off a bridge or jumping off the side of boat or someone getting shot or stabbed or even strangled which I've had one of those dreams as well. Which is not very pleasant because I was with that person until they took their last breast, and I have to say that that is terrifying. So you I'm sorry. You know what? You actually feel what they feel. Yes. It's it's like, I am that person. Everything that they experience in their last few moments. I experienced I see I feel because there have been plenty of times where I would wake up in a cold Flett, just like hyperventilating. Because it's just. It's just that intense in its orientating because I would wake up and look around, and it would take me I say about ten minutes before I would realize where I am. It's like, okay, I'm in my own time period. I'm at home. It's three in the morning. God damn I need to go back to sleep. Yeah. Have you ever thought about maybe you have maybe even tried it? But seeing people being murdered through their eyes or especially that, especially the murderous. But the things is there any way that you could try to learn history in in. Maybe find out who these people were is like a have you ever thought you could solve a murder this way? Yes. But typically when even when the clearly person I mean, and everybody's heard of it when they go to the police like, hey, I know where this little boy is they kinda turn you away. So in some aspect, if I had more feature is sick dream that was like an unsolved murder in the past ten fifteen years, I could probably help somebody. But it's always extreme passed like a hundred years, maybe sometimes fifty years, but it's always like, there's no point opening the case, it's so old, and it's very rare that I get a ton of information through that dream there have been a handful dreams or I would hear name or I would see a sign on the street like across St. or something or name of a building or something like that. To where I could pinpoint it to which those dreams I do. I try my best to to pinpoint those down. And it's always something small. It's not something that that made the newspapers back then that would make the TV today. It's always oh, well this happened today. Next time. You know, I it's just it's always small time things this is it's very fascinating. I just think I think that this probably something. I mean, it's been happening your whole life, right? Yep. So chances are probably be something happening for at least a little bit longer. Because you've you've you knew you knew your mom when she was having these experiences. So you are at least old enough to comprehend what she was experiencing. So chances are you're probably gonna still experience it from here on out as your daughter gets older. I do wonder if there's something when it comes to the generational aspect of things. If your mom has not been experiencing a more. If it's like, a there's a transition process from one generation another like, it's being it's being transitioned from your mom to you. Once that's complete it gets transitioned from you to the next generation. I know it sounds. I don't know. Science fiction. I guess, but I right. I don't know. I don't know, you know, it's just with this particular like most people contribute to you see in the future in your dreams. Those Clervoy there's a lot of information about that. And there's theories about it. But when it comes to my situation where my mom, and my grandmother both had these features dream. I'm kind of the black sheep where I'm having dreams about murder and death. And it does seem to be that way. Where is each new generation pops up they tend to not have that ability anymore? And I think that's that would be a good theory to go with what you suggested that it transitions. So I'm kinda wondering when my daughter gets old enough to actually experience and understand what's going on. If that's gonna just shut down for me, which I'll be think for four, but at the same time, then I have to help her out in hope make sure that it doesn't. Affect her psyche in a negative way. Because I do have depression anxiety. Not just from situations that have happened to me in my life during waking life, but just having those dreams for so long. You do get depressed in you. Do good upset and you do get anxious because you never know what you're going to have that night. You never know. What's going to happen in my going to dream, am I not going to it's not exactly nerve wracking? But it's just it does give you that anxious feeling. My hope is that by the time. She's able to understand what she's experiencing if she does have that. Or if it's just she's just having baby nightmares? And that's just the thing that all babies go through. But if it is an actual thing that I'm experiencing that she has now I'm hoping by the time. She's able to understand it that there will be more inflammation or the I'd had talked to somebody beforehand. So I know what teller than I don't know, kiddo. I've had it to guess we're going to be in this boat together type thing. I really really hope that I have something. Hell her. Well, you know, what you're being proactive about right now. And you're asking people in your, you know, sticking your neck on the line quote unquote to try to get some answers. And I highly suggest you to continue doing that. As you're talking and stuff, I'm doing some googling myself trying to find out some answers for you just because it is different. You know, it's different than clear. Void I mean. As far as I understand how it is made clear Voin is for things to come in the future not necessarily for the past. And I don't really know what the terminology has gotta be terminology for it. I just don't know it is for somebody like you who actually has dreams of things that happened in the past. It's just it's very, I don't know. It's different. It's absolutely different. It's definitely one of those things that I have found little to no research on or people aren't willing to talk about. So for a while. I did feel like we'll do I have something that people know about and that it's for like forbidden to talk about because something might happen like vortex. I don't know that's a little dramatic. But it's just that's just the feeling that I get it's like. Some of the people that I talked to if eels like, they know something, but they don't wanna talk about it. They don't want to give me the information that I need they just instantly shut down. And then that's it. And then I don't hear anything else. Shame. That's a shame. I I wish I had more answers for you feel like I'm following following right in line with everybody else. Other than the fact that I'm not I'm not shutting you down. I don't have no interest in doing that. But the there's definitely there's definitely gotta be answers out there. And I'm very very intrigued myself, and I I wanna start kind of digging a little bit on this myself for you. I come across anything. I'll definitely, you know, send it your way and stuff. But this is this is fascinating to me. Very very fascinating. You know, before we get out of here stuff as far as your daughter goes and everything like that deep down inside. I mean in your heart of hearts, do you feel like this is something this transition to harden? We kicked it around a little bit this show and stuff is this something that deep down inside you really do feel like that. Or do you feel like you? There's a good chance that she may not get it. You're just overreacting. I. With the way, my family history is gone. And it seems to be only pass through to the females. I have a very strong suspicion that she probably will inherit this gift or curse this thing that I have that is different from the rest of us. But you know, it's definitely that feeling like, I I know she's for sure going to end up with this. I just hope it's more the clairvoyance side than the past. Absolutely. Maybe she could have just visions of future flowers that are going to be blossoming in the field next to the house when next year that'd be that'd be beautiful. I I really I really wish you guys the best stuff in please. Please. Please keep in touch because I'm very interested in hearing. How this all unfolds for you? So, but I'll tell you what thank you very much for coming on the show and sharing with us because this is very fascinating to me, not problem. It's one of those oddball things, and it's not something that I've really heard on your podcast previously. So I was like I'll just chime in and see what happens. No, absolutely. I thank you for that. Because my show I do not wanna box in the any categories. I wanna have anything in everything on my show. So I really appreciate you reaching out to me not a problem. All right, Christina take care. Well, that's sure buddy. I really hope you enjoyed it. And if you didn't join there are three things you can do to help support the show one go to tunes. Leave a five star rating review to go to patriot dot com forward slash the confessionals. 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Windows PC Security: Interview with Anthony Jackson of O'Fallon Computers

Joey's Totally Tech

26:12 min | 3 weeks ago

Windows PC Security: Interview with Anthony Jackson of O'Fallon Computers

"You're listening to Joe is totally Tech your Tech podcast. The opinions expressed by guest interviewed in our podcast episodes. Do not necessarily reflect. The opinions of Joey Cagle Joey's totally tet or anyone else associated with the Joey's toward winter podcast today. We speak with Anthony Jackson the owner of O'Fallon computers in O'Fallon, Missouri about Windows PC security. How should you keep your computer safe. You'll find out on this episode of Joe. He's totally Tech package. in in and see Hello, everyone. Today. We're talking with founder of a Fallon computers in O'Fallon Missouri. He's also the host of the techy Tony marketing podcast is Anthony Jackson. And today we're talking about Windows PC security and next week. We'll have our first episode with our new co-host. I'm not telling you who it is at this time, but he has been a guest on this podcast previously. So watch out for that and hopefully we'll have a bit more back and forth Tech discussion on future episodes of the podcast and now on with the interview with Anthony Jackson. This is Jo. EK go with Joey's totally Tech. Am I am here with Anthony Jackson of O'Fallon computers in O'Fallon Missouri. Is that correct? Not showing how are you? I'm good. How are you doing today? Doing good man. Thanks for having me. All right. So first of all, just tell us a little bit about O'Fallon computers for our listeners who don't know about company. Yeah. So I found computers was born about six years ago. We primarily served the st. Charles County Missouri area. We do computer repair. We do custom built computers virus removal upgrade all that fun stuff. We currently do not offer Max. However, if you do need to Apple repair, we do have someone we can recommend to you. Okay, sounds good. So I'm not in the Missouri. I've been I'm here in Charlotte, North Carolina, but that's good to know especially for any listener that we may have a Missouri. First of all, what are the biggest preventable issues you see going on wage? People who are having issues with their PC as far as security goes without getting into specifics as I do want to respect the privacy of your customers. Of course, why do they have off she is that they have typically well, I think a lot of people just you know, it comes down to Safe browsing of it safe browsing it and I mean, that's just that people think that they have just because they have antivirus protection. We're covered. It's always good to have something that's paid first free lot of times. We have something that's free. It's free for a reason but having something paid is definitely my recommendation on that regard. I think it just comes down to lack of knowledge of safe browsing and things like that. That's pretty much it. It just comes down to knowing what to look for having the correct programs installed on your computer to stay protected. Right, right. Yeah, so I'm a Linux user myself. So we won't be talking about the Linux side of things hub. Sadly focusing on Windows because that's what the majority of people are going to be using Windows. Of course comes with Microsoft Defender. Which from what I've seen in when I've used its life proved greatly over the years initially not being so good but there are still those and you did mention paid as better than free. There are those who don't trust Defender wage what antivirus recommendations do you have for the listeners who run Windows 10 if I had to pick one? I would trick Norton out of the gate. I wouldn't pick up hurting 360 the word 360 means round-the-clock attention and that can Bogdan resources on your computer for the most part. You're buying the name, whether it's hard to talk about if you could first be whatever the brand name is kind of like it's simple it's easy. It's affordable. And I think the biggest takeaway is to make sure that you do scanned regularly. The biggest misconception is just because a dog It doesn't mean I can't get infected and that's not true. Right and you will yeah, I agree there and I've tried to tell people that myself. I have all people until I had people so many times that yeah, if you're just smart about your browsing to have it you won't get infected. I've been smart about my browsing habits when I was on my mother's PC years ago Earth somehow it would get viruses and white through Facebook somewhere some way of my I'm like, I'm not going to a Shady Side. Well, I guess there's questions about Facebook getting rid of data and everything that they get from you. Right? Right. Anyway, so ideas bitdefender myself in the past as wage. What do you think about that to be honest with you? I've never used it. Okay, I don't really I mean for me, I don't really I'm kind of a democrat in a sense. I don't really use a phone number. Because I know the I know the internet certainly well I'm where to go and what I'm looking for when I'm browsing for things. Oh, yes. Yeah, but and as long as you've got something whether it's been two fender Norton, maybe she has her ski just anything is better than nothing. Yeah, I agree there. You just never know. You just never know. The internet is a big place, right? So when it comes to shove cleaning your computer, I've seen so many people recommending programs like CC cleaner to clean the registry, but when I tried it the past and it was a long time ago with my experience performance increase was not I mean, it was quite minimal and I've actually broken the Windows installation or two with it on Windows 10. I've really had no registry issues to speak of when I've used witnessed and so should people be using something like CC Cleaner. I don't feel like you should be using cookie cleaner. I don't think you could be using registry cleaners a log. And when you clean cookies and delete your passwords, right if I had a dollar for every time somebody forgot a password man. I'd be a millionaire cleaning your cookies off. My opinion is not recommended. We do a person who do computers because when you stand for viruses and you know stuff like that we clean the cookies first to say, yeah. Well, this is more with the windows read something that I was speaking of. Okay, as far as the registry goes, I don't think you should touch it at all. It's a dangerous place, right even with even with the program like CCleaner or something like that. No, because CCleaner doesn't give any recommendations that you just say. Do you want to make a backup and you're like, okay and you don't know where it's at. Your registry is the brain of your computer. It's kind of like a car if you move one thing or take it out of place wage. You're going to be calling someone very soon because it won't boot up or doing whatever right? So you're at the same opinion that I am about CCleaner then oh, yeah. Yeah, so, of course we know off. Keeping windows up to date as very important or we should know that but also there have been updates particularly with Windows 10 witch have broken the system off. So backups are important. Are there any particularly easy to use backup tools that you would recommend to our listeners easy backup tools. I would say anything a cloud-based anything cloud-based, you know flash dries hard race, they're just pieces of Hardware they can and will fail right as far as programs go. I am I recommend Google Drive it's free. It's not free. It's like 15 gig for whatever amount of space and get or whatever Google Drive one note anything of that nature. If you're going to use a flash drive and you're kind of weary about the whole cloud-based system. I would encourage you to use a flash drive but make multiple backups of that money or yeah. Oh God disaster can strike at any time and it's wage. Trouble When It Happens, yeah that actually answers. My next question was do you recommend backups to hard drive thumb drive cloud or mix of those options, but I know from my experience and from what I've been talked. I was always taught to have multiple backups on maybe someone hard drives someone the cloud some on a flash drive somewhere. Yeah, as long as you're making a backup of some sort, I think that's the important takeaway. Right right. So, let's see. What's usually BitLocker and Windows 10. You can encrypt your local files. What other ways would you recommend to protect your files to be on BitLocker and regular backups? Not stopping at all a lot about to be honest with you. I would just give copies of your data to trusted friends and family. All right, that makes sense. Let's move up a level from the brake system to the web browser and you did mention that it's mainly browsing habits that we have issues with with people bringing in their computers for volts cleaning and things like that phishing scams. They have been an issue for quite some time. What do you find is the best way to protect against phishing scams, you know, that's a it's an uncomfortable conversation in for a lot of people because we all get taken advantage of that at some point in time. It really comes down to just safe browsing habits off the bigger stuff. I can tell you is you know, if you're checking your email if it looks fishy it probably is right because you know, if if you click on it and lets people know that you have an active account. If you didn't sign up for it, don't look at it. That's my best recommendation on fishing ma'am, because it's inevitable you're going to get infected in someone's going to try and do something. Right? Yeah, and I I think I'd add to that if you know what you're looking for. If the URL doesn't match with a service definitely don't do it, you know actually go to the service office is a PayPal go directly to paypal.com and asked about that. Don't don't click on any of the links of those emails. Yeah and don't ever Google like Microsoft Office work because you will end up with a headache. Oh, yeah. I've been on several websites where it's like it just pops up with an alert telling me to call this number because my boss computers, but in fact remove the virus and I didn't have this as a question on here, but tell us what might happen if you call that number. Well, it's a really simple process actually a clear sign of a scam that somebody who does not speak English. Do not trust anybody if they ask for a credit card information don't do it a clear giveaway is you know, if they ask for access to your computer, that's usually a terrible sign that something bad is about to happen. If you do both of them information credit card information, the best thing you can do is call your bank and get everything reset or do what you feel is necessary and contact your local repair technician explain to them the situation. Those are number good situations to be in and unfortunately people get taken advantage of them all the time right off. off I have a couple of user questions are not user questions list of questions both from the same person. Actually, her name is Maura. She's a regular listener of the podcast off. So Laura asked how often should I change my passwords? That's a really good question mark how does a really good question? I would say every 90 days is something good and a really good recommendation. Like for example, like Zoom for example, like, you know, make your password Zoom a one and then when you change your password make it Zoom, oh to zoom both resume affords and we'll five moving forward that way you don't, you know have weird password conflicts and try to make all your passwords the same thing. That's a good way to remember stuff but I say every 90 days or so, but if you're one of those people that's never had an issue with a computer as far as a virus goes or something like that. I would not worry about it too much. But if you've got regular maintenance going on a regular problems, then you should probably change your password more often off. And before I move on to the her next question. I'd like to ask I don't didn't have this in my typed out questions. What do you think about Panthers? Our Management Solutions like last past that remember all your passwords for you. Yeah. So I use LastPass. I really like it. I couldn't live without it actually. Yeah. Yeah as an IT birth and computer person. I've got accounts for everything everything requires a username and password. I think they're fantastic 111 password for everything. I like. Yeah, I guess last past myself as well and a client a former client of mine. I do web development outside of this podcast as well as working in retail, but I do web development and one of web development clients was concerned that what happens if last pass itself gets hacked then they've got access to all your passwords. Well, I don't think that's ever going to happen to log out / passes on by a company called LogMeIn and Logan takes security and they've got in a huge amount of what's called redundancy in place. That way if something does happen your card. Because they know that's a liability, right? Yeah, that's that's reassuring to know for sure. And then Laura also asked what's the best way to protect yourself when you shop online the easiest and best way to protect yourself is make sure that the site has what's called an SSL and you can tell that by choice. It has a lot on the URL. So if it's like www.xoom.com take a look at the Lock And if you click on it, it'll stay certificate and then there's a sentence that says wage that is how you know, you're safe. You don't ever want to put your credit card information or any type of email personal information that does not have what's called an SSL. Right? Right. Exactly. That's something that I've made sure for a long time. Make sure it has the SSL certificate make sure it's got the lock lot of people are using vpns. What are your opinions on VPN off? Keep people safe at all or is it just kind of feel-good type thing. I can leave your hands are kind of thing of the past man. I think the important thing to take away is when you're at like a Starbucks or a break or something just make sure that the the the Wi-Fi is protected. I don't really like vpns. I think it's just an additional expense. Most people have a job in nine-to-five. So finding them at a cafe is going to be few and far between in my opinion. But if you buy a VPN, I would get clear on what a VPN it what it does suck your you know, the person you bought it from and make sure you understand fully what the consequences are and things like that. Yeah. I know it wasn't nordvpn that was hacked about a year ago, I believe now. Yeah. Yeah. I think that revealed a lot of issues with vpns in general. I mean, I think you know if you're using like Netflix and wants to see some off Show that's another region a VPN might work for that. But of course there might be some issues with that as well. I'm not sure have it completely wrap. It looks your yeah. I mean, it's just it's a preference. You know, I don't recommend it personally, but it's totally up to the user. Yeah. So yeah, that's really all the questions that I had today. Is there anything that you wanted to add as far as any tips or tricks or anything with Windows security? I would just encourage each and every one of you to make a backup. I'll just share a quick story with you. We had a customer who his son had cancer and he was born and he died at eighteen and he had a bunch of pictures on his hard drives and it's hard drive mechanically fixed. There was no getting it back. So we just we sent him over to a company called drivesavers just wishes company that specializes in advanced data recovery and they wage. To get in the guy paid like $5,000 to get it all back. It was like Fifty gig or some crap that was huge and always man always back up your data keep this in mind that memories can Asda right? Yes, and that that brings me to another question that I'm just saying it up. I know just over time working with computers. I've been told solid state drives have a limited limited number of rights to it. Once it's written so many times. You can't really do much less often more but we've got mechanical hard drives. I know solid state drives have improved so much. What do you see more of a failure rate with hard drives or solid-state drives? Oh hard drives a Hummer traditional how to flatter drives. If you have not upgraded to a solid state drive. It can literally bring your computer back to life yet. They make such a difference especially in when he's dead. Oh, yeah, and I know I'll go ahead I was just going to say if you haven't made that jump then you should and if you're building a computer like for gaming or whatever you want to do like a Compaq computer which we make by the way, there's even a faster Drive above the SSD called an M too. And I can't even believe how fast those things are. The last computer being built was an amateur. It was 64 gig phone rings and I 73.9 was crazy high and it I mean it installed Windows and a hundred like 2 minutes and just crazy. Yeah. I know for me one of the best upgrades I've made on a older computer was moving from a traditional hard drive to a solid state drive now. Yes, they do cost more for the amount of space that you get but the package has been coming down over the years and it's like I didn't make any processor upgrade the RAM upgrades. I just put everything on solid state drive and it boots up off. Faster and of course even faster if you're using like M. Too and Vienna me things like that. My recommendation is if you have not upgraded to Windows 10 yet and you're looking to make that job make sure you put it on sustained. It'll make all the difference in the world and I'm not know just keep in mind that just because your computer is eligible for Windows 10 does not mean your computer should have windows turn. Right, right. Yeah. I've seen some people running Windows 10 on their computer that probably should not be really right minimum of I'm going to say 6 gig HP recommended but a minimum of six at least before you consider even upgrading to Windows 10. Mm. If anybody has not made that jump we do offer Consultation Services over the phone and zoom if you're thinking about purchasing a computer building one or just have general questions, right and that's just bringing up another question that I have now with Windows 10 when it was released years ago. There was no A lot of concern about the Telemetry data what's being sent to Microsoft or who knows? Who else? I'm a Linux user now mostly. I mean, I've been a Linux user for years, but I was using Windows 10 for a while and I thought it was great. But I did have the Telemetry data concerns and where that data might be going to what are your thoughts of that and what can people to do to protect themselves if they do have concerns about it guys. I don't think you really have a choice Microsoft some big company. They want to collect as much data as humanly possible. Right. Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it. It is just that simple. They're they're like you can turn off privacy settings. But if you had to run guys, they're going to find you just holidays. I don't need to be transparent way. You can assure that a company like Microsoft is going to be very big on security but these days when you're running ads on Facebook and things you're not paying for that you're paying for data and that's what it's all about is information. Right? I mean think of how many people have a Microsoft account for Word and Excel how many people have a subscription credit card they want information. They want the data off. Yeah. That's the big game these days information the data for sure. I mean look at how big Facebook has gotten helped at Google has gotten just from the damage. They collect on the yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. So is there much that you can do to protect data should people switch from Windows to Linux because I mean Thursday Is Facebook on 1 x 2 would I be able to do anything at all? No, I think I'll just be transparent with you guys like it's inevitable. You're going to get infected. Something's going to happen. Eventually. You're never safe home. That's why I like to help and do what we got to do. As long as you're backing up your data, and you're not getting credit card numbers two random people. You'll be in good hands. Yes, exactly. Well, it's been good having you today Anthony. I enjoyed talking with you. I know this interview was at super long or anything, but I think we got some great answers and I think it's been great having you. Yeah. Enjoy. I really appreciate you taking the time to reach out and have me on random excited to my first podcast ever that I've done an interview with, you know, yeah, you're one of my first three podcast guests. I've had so often. Yes, so it's pretty no experience for me, too. Yeah. Thank you for being here. All right Joey. Take care. Bye-bye. And that's it for this interview and this episode of Joe. He's totally panic. I will catch you next time. 15 in in mm and off Hong Kong

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Flight Survivors - Artimus Pyle & the Lynyrd Skynyrd Plane Crash

Talk Is Jericho

1:36:42 hr | 1 year ago

Flight Survivors - Artimus Pyle & the Lynyrd Skynyrd Plane Crash

"Dog ricco all right welcome talk is jericho it's the pod thundering rock and roll and drum roll please uncooked tennessee and there is a reality and there was a character named arduous but it was a girl's name rock and roll bands in history at the height of their popularity we're paying tribute to the survivors and the legacy of leonard scattered leonard skinner drummer arms pile when i was in college we were taking a course in greek mythology i was going to tennessee tech university right and organiz some ways by artists pile one of the greatest names by the way artists that's old school like southern name what does that i'm from my real name is thomas okay my mother call me tommy and my middle name is delmer tommy del pile almost forty two years ago today and artists sharing details about the circumstances leading up to the tragic crash the events that followed artists said it's a miracle he replaced the original drummer bob burns back in one thousand nine hundred seventy four after bob left the band to health problems and artists sharing that story with us right here and talk is jericho we got to see it playing lots of great stuff get your tickets at guns and roses dot com and another rock and roll hall of famer also out playing shows live it's the artist pile lives no i was an idiot in school i didn't try and study uniting crack a book all i wanted to do was drive a car or ride my bicycle even loud band or honoring the music ron advanced leonard skinner tonight in st charles illinois they're going to be in the rock legends crews eight in february as well cousin roses tours doing two dates south of the border become before they come back to the states for show in oklahoma city on wednesday still rocking and doing the not in this lifetime tour it was like the goddess virginity or something like that she was the sister of apollo so everybody had nicknames from nashville the flash or play drums so you know i didn't pay very good attention but i think my grandfather bought my way into college so i was at tennessee tech university one survived the plane crash and you'll hear why he was not at all surprised that ronnie van zandt did not so on the forty second anniversary of the crash that almost ended one of the biggest the first time he met ronnie van zandt what is addition to join the band was like but here's the crazy thing artists also survived the horrific plane crash that killed ronnie van zandt right now autonomous jericho a couple months ago i was asked to play at a benefit show rock and roll hall of famer defecating and delivering the goods every single friday he and gaza roses are delivering the goods tonight friday october eighteenth in guadalajara he go dr player steve gaines backup singer cassie gaines the band's tour assistant dean co patrick the plane's pilots on october twentieth nineteen seventy seven me ornaments because i guess when i was eighteen nineteen years old i had a baby face not so much now but i you know i looked young and with no arduous pile dot com that's p. y. l. e. band dot com for those of you who don't know artists was in leonard skinner with ronnie van zandt snake would he you know all these guys everybody had these cool nicknames so i didn't have a nickname didn't one and all of a sudden they the stupid you have to laugh five letters in the word couch ouch come on and lose twenty percent letters of the word out get it lost twenty seven michael j. you get official here or anything i i guess you know looked like a virgin so they started calling me artists a RT i m US and i hated it because it's like being the boy named sue outright how do you do but then a program came out on television and it was a RTM US and the girl spelling is different so i thought oh my god it's great because now that's right out at WWW how can you not laugh at that a young to notice but it was called the wild wild west and it was james west and he had a a sidekick named artists gordon it just became my name but when i was in the marines i went in the marines the nineteen sixty seven because i had basically flunked out of college he made a joke you know 'cause gomer had just left the andy griffith show and started the domer- pile USMC so when they saw my name tag tennessee tech so i came home and joined the marines and my dad was a marine his father was marine michael's marine his dad was a marine so komo gomer so i had to go up in front of like a lot of men that were getting ready to go to vietnam and oh it's a guy you know and i'm no longer the boy named sue so that name stuck in its on all my skinner albums zone all my albums period am surprise surprise surprise hey sarge the four things that go more always said that he got in trouble for and so i'd have to say they didn't want me to join the marines and so actually i went down joined the navy because my dad wanted me to fly so the navy had a really good flight program entry and loud as i really at the top of my lungs and so i got to where they made me over and over again so finally i got to remember when school and i was taken lessons from an old sergeant major and my dad had already solo d- and he was the flyer he's a pilot my dad was highlight and he was out in gave his life for this country and had a belly laugh at my expense no problem so i you know i went in i said i'm from being a brain surgeon to a shepherd well as i say i was about to solo in easter flew out to san diego and watched me you know graduate which was a big deal because they didn't have much money on my dad was an architect and builder so i got down there and i'm in the office and i'm looking at the guy and he reads my paper and he goes okay he said you should probably join the marines with a name like gomer pyle asked me to do it i did it with all my might to get them off my back and so i got where i was screaming shoes siam the marines and he went he he was proud of me for doing that and mom and dad albuquerque new mexico and he was looking at a piece of property that he worked for a man named burke shout and he was the money man but we want rich so you know for them all to fly out there seeming graduate i knew it meant a lot to dad so so you're talking about these early days of being in there's all these guys these marines and they're laughing they're fallen out there fallen underground or rolling you know but i figure if some guy went to vietnam right ahead at coronado the right wing down a position of they bomber cut my dad's plane completely in half gosh greens and then dad was killed and i kinda just you know i was a drummer from when the doctor pulled me out and join the navy and the flight program and the guy goes with a name like gomer each joined the marines and i basically said f you and i walked across the hall locked in the marine corps recruiting office and joined the marines so i called my dad after i was through and i said dad i'm all joined up i'm a hitch stub now and he's goes great in pioneer of the south west so he was with my dad they were hit from above and behind by a b. fifty seven where the recon and it was making touch and goes little boy and he was always at the stockyards when my grandpa would take me a grandpa's name was guy williams so i grew up you know he grew up to be the vice both men were killed mr stubblefield father and the dream was i was going to be a marine captain go to flight school fly for the to a higher state university i thought i'd try school again you know i was still an idiot i didn't care about book learning you know the marines and flying all these things that how did you end up making the transition and for being a serviceman into being the drummer of one of the biggest rock and roll bands of all time so how did we'd be at shell and there'd be four hundred marine standard error in the d i would go pile and i'd have to break ranks run out sir golly shinzan hundred homes on the property side he always liked to fly over the property sight to see his geographical lay of the land where he put his storm drains where he being a drummer so i've been out of the marines couple years marshall tucker were good friends of mine charlie daniels was a good friend of mine you know he knew that i was a young hungry musician and charlie daniels and the drummer for marshall tucker paul riddle are the slap you on the back yeah man you're the greatest but all they're really doing is trying to get their hand in your pocket i was actually studying pre law i wanted to be alone never knew what hitting one second he's doing two things he loved he's flying an airplane and his flying over properties going to build on and he was about attention to mathematics and all this other stuff i've been ripped off the biggest managers and lawyers you know the old man these these guys they earlier when i was in school but i didn't have the the brains to be a lawyer you know i went with what i did naturally which was you know where you're going to go to boot camp and i said well i've chosen san diego he goes that's a marine corps boot camp and i said dad i joined nine years old said a red sparkle slayer len's and i just went back to what i loved dad was killed i went back slapped me on my but you know i went to three four i'm a real i'm a natural drummer i rode horses all my life i ride like work and he sent that out to albuquerque to look at a piece of property they were going to build on so my dad was the guy that would wait in their up knee deep in mud and build for the people love us because we play the music so well and i don't put a guy out there and say okay now this is ron van zandt i would never do that i would never call me is that turned ronnie van zandt onto my name and then ronnie wanted to meet me so i came here to atlanta and there was the houses and he liked to do that from the air and he was with a man named robert stubblefield who had thirty six thousand hours of flying time he was an aviation that would've you know 'cause i let a lot of people steal money that i've earned for my family but because i didn't pay too much drummer boban bursts out you know robert burns and i used to introduce bob this way bob was in my band AP now i have a man there's the big show at the old fulton county stadium it's not there anymore and think so so it was the allman brothers marshall tucker leonard skinner senate and i grew up to be this drummer band called leonard skinner what had you say that but i was always a drummer and my dad bought me a set of drums when as the hit it big the guy burke was a big millionaire and he knew the dad was the man with the plan and so better than any band in the world i'm seventy they're all like fifty five they played the music with respect and honor and accuracy and they work hard and heard and they had just started hitting it when they opened up for the who right and i just did a gig on a ship with roger daltry i saw that picture they played for like fifty people and he goes yeah he says i was aware that bob had some medical issues as GATT q. u. i. p. dot com slash jericho order today get quip dot com slash jericho and have the whitest pearly whites of your life then happy healthy mouths do as well quit starts at just twenty five bucks and if you go to get quick dot com slash jericho now get your first refill pack for free it goes everywhere with me i was just in new york and philly in los angeles the past three days for the premiere for jane silent bob reboots rush awesome goes with the everywhere it's got to build a two minute timer that pulses every thirty seconds to tell me what time should switch sides and help me clean my whole mouth evenly reason why my pearly whites are looking so clean and bright on TNT every wednesday night had a great one nephew nights go with darby darby allen despite of doing this charity mentioned new brush heads automatically delivered every three months for just five bucks that's why i love quip while my family loves quip and why over one the american i don't use a saddle bridle and a blanket and i grew up with al gore's al gore junior he was laying albor seniors out of hotel rooms the quick runs for three months of a single charge which means no bulky charger to lug around with you or to clutter up your bathroom counter at home and the best part band leonard scattered without ronnie van zandt there is no leonard scattered it's only a tribute and that's what i do so talked about ron events armistice legendary figure five of us we go out all the time we just played in california in vegas and we play all over america and my band plays leonard skinner japan we were on our way to australia all over europe canada hawaii so you know ronnie and i shared a state that people don't really know a lot about him since he's been dead for forty years but before we talk about ronny i gotta say thank you to quip a longtime talk is jericho sponsor and quip is the was out there and you know cocaine uppers downers and you know and i was the pot head of the group the rest of the guys man they eat anything and then i did a a b upfront presentation with westwood one for talks jericho and then of course we had the great match in philadelphia with w always busy but my quip electric at perkins sonepur airforce base to the right dad was on final approach an assessment one fifty a brand new one and he was going to land sebastian and i and roger took a picture masters play off skinner opened for the who on their very first tour and i talked to roger that really knew him i mean obviously the guys in the band but you you actually knew this guy as a dear friend i roomed with ronnie all over the world sebastian boston and no idea that roger was the height that he is because i always thought it was ten feet tall he sang like it he will always be i knew ronnie really well and ronnie it was a great person he was a gentleman he had a beautiful handwriting almost like a woman's it was the room on one of our tour buses and and then we were together more than he was with his wife for family so the wildest time for rock and roll and you're one of the biggest bands i'm sure you guys are crazy after time it was crazy there was lots of alcohol lots of drugs it is behind his back was insane but says a new brush at every three months which makes my debt is very happy and it makes my life easier because it's one less thing to worry about and equip toothbrush was an incredible prolific songwriter he had this neck of writing songs that people really i said man i said you guys whether you note or not are responsible for a lot of the success of scattered because before they play with you guys it's got cool cover as well that works to stand and as a protective cover so you can easily travel with your clip it also sticks to mirrors you don't lose it on the goal which is very important for me since i'm always the barn door after the horse is out and you know so i marked myself as a an unfaithful husband and that's my biggest regret but but ronnie i i hear you play drums bob goes yeah i play drums and he goes will you're in my band now so bob and like perfect cursive yeah and he was a total gentlemen but when he got drunk like anybody else to drink too much he turned into it you could find they'd snort stuff you know they drank everything and they would bang everything that was moving and i was an unfaithful husband not at first i held out for a while but on the road eight months with the band i became unviable husband and i'd give anything to be asshole when i drink too much turn into an asshole so i try not to drink to me to be you know right so i i try to watch that but you're talking about leonard skinner in the seventies which was i love it down there my places in saint augustine my other mom where my daughter lives my granddaughter and my grandson but jacksonville the weather was always drum off and i said sound good to me man let's go so about three days later after i met ronnie and he had just been beaten up out in california some gary and he wrote you know alan with allen at but ed king he wrote sweet home alabama with gary and ed and three and ronnie wood practice in bob's carport there in florida you know it's jacksonville florida so it's always good weather title song romney didn't write hit songs he wrote hit albums back in the days of the albums so deed at the majority of the material ronnie zero yeah he was the vision yeah you know and then bob had some medical problems some issues and they brought me in because i met ronnie you know at the fulton county stadium and they when i met him he had a two black is fat lips his nose was pointing that way married to the same girl that i'm married i when i was in the marines in a bank in the marines her name is patricia and she's a wonderful person and we're great friends we talk all the time you know ronnie meta baseball game actually ronnie hit a line drive and hit bob burns in the back and a lot of people said that they hit mary you know he i wrote one song with him called that smell no wow you'd song it's a huge song and but he wrote with into and it's hard for my band pick a set because there's not a bad leonard skinner song there's you know every time but the only reason we're friends is because of the strength of her character so i wish i would have done it but once you fall off that horse there's no shut what's he beat his ass and gary rawson came off the bus to see what was happening and they picked him up and threw him on the trunk interesting you said there is no skinner's at ronnie van zandt possible ron events because he's been gone for so long he's legendary figure but i don't know anybody the exorcist right they said he looked like reagan you know and he was pretty rough and so three days after i met him and after he said we're gonna do drum off he called me up and he said i've been talking to charlie daniels in the marshall tucker guys and they say that you're crazy enough to be in our band and you know bob burns was the original drummer and he when he was just a young dude like maybe fifteen sixteen nicely practice in the carport yeah yeah yeah because of the you know the weather's so they the rest is history they went on to be temping all day and also thought you know i didn't think that sebastian bach was six six humongous right and so him and rani said well you know artem someone a fly five drummers and five sets of drums down to jacksonville florida and we're going to have it and he liked me and he didn't he wanted to find out if i could play drums so i've came to atlanta on peachtree to the alex coolies electric ballroom among gang had come up to the bus and this one guy said sendoff your data sombre while nationally runny head to walk out there right call the electric ballroom alex coolies and so i met ed king and leon wilkerson just the bass guitar one guitar and met them there and on the way to the gig on peachtree my volkswagen microbus overheated it's called a vapor lock right it vapor locked on me because it's not water cooled which is the old georgian terrace ballroom it's where they had the the cast party for gone with the wind right so alex cooley had turned it into a big club the pummeling ronnie so when i met him he he looked they were they killed him and said said that he looked like linda blair herb in the right lane i packed up my drums and walk the last two blocks a took me three trips and took my drums up to alex coolies electric ballroom to be there so i auditioned ed king fix me on caesar salad at a restaurant next to the ballroom on peachtree either everything was cool it goes called rani said yep he can play drums so that was that was that and i went back expect and audition and it was about three hours and i didn't care if they told my van or forever saw it again this was the gig that i was you know they got hit in the head but bob said that he remembered being hit in the back and knock the breath out of me ronnie came over and running with standing over him and he goes so i parked on the curb on the peach tree was four lanes boom boom boom boom and i was parked at the stop light on the of a passing car was a cab and they picked him up and flipped him up on this car savarese going away on the back of this car man i just want you to come down to jacksonville bring your drums i said okay we're where we're going to do the drum off you know like a club or something he goes no drum off you just come on down it's the job of the week chris mccarron calling you from austin texas lost twenty percent on my couch on you know and it's a german car so the signals were still kinda we've been you know it was it was good engineer man i'm went in put the key started it up in my my van to be gone still sitting there still sitting there and not even a ticket on it and i left the mercy signals not not due to me all i did was i'm alive drummer i'm alive guy bob was in the studio i thought bob and i always said this bob burns jack nicholson you know so you know these guys had done it that i always say this their success was played brilliantly on pronounced which is the album that really broke it man i came in on nothing fancy saturday night special emerson so that you need to check out on youtube it's called good company hosted by scott bowling he talks music every week with all kinds of amazing rock and roll guests say never set my drums up man and play with anybody would play with me you know to my first show with the guys that was like sold out arenas doc they were hitting it and i went from just like they did i went from plan for fifty people in some little club was everybody crazy and skinner will when i when i say crazy i mean kind of wild yes sure so they liked to drink and do drugs and everything and bob was bob was there and bob wasn't he he was alive drummer as well but he really it was al cooper the producer on interviews scott's a great interviewer and he always good show so go check that out now how big the skinner yet a lot of fighting two boys it was the fact that i was a marine but how did that how did that relate to the rest of the guys in the band talk about the creative process touring what inspires them all the current stuff so much guys dig music and that's why i think you should check a good company with scott bowling go to i like to smoke weed that was that was my thing let's talk about skinner's popularity at that point when you joined the band in nineteen seventy four but before we get there let me tell everyone about another music show go check out scott show is good company with bowling and you can find it on youtube or follow him on facebook at good company with bowling you need to check this show out very very indepth or rock band from atlanta georgia was just scott they covered everything from how they got together to new music they're working on fayza guitarist rich ward was on a recent episode talking about his three favourite ninety eighty heavy metal records scott said striper seven dust eddie trunk has guests phil demo for machine head interviews he does a really in depth and allow all the guests right there so they didn't it didn't equate a nothing fancy until everything was digitally remastered when they got that stuff going google or facebook or instagram and searched good company the show will come up give it a listen it's a great show you'll learn something about the guests entertained as well and you guys know scott lopping sweet home alabama bob burns that smell is yours that smells me special what's your name it's yeah you know all those other songs but games in a row we'd be doing sweet home alabama fifty times in a row the rest of the bambi ronnie please i didn't care to me PT physical training is awesome and that was al cooper getting that sound so al the day that i record in saturday night special i had flown to columbus ohio to sign introduction to running things when you said that you were crazy enough to be in the band this guy said would exacted that mean he's almost from party stamp yes and you know the big show i played was opened up for the rolling stones there isn't three hundred thousand people the energy was unbelievable i met paul mccartney that day i did not like my drum sound it was thin but later on when they digitally remastered every all of our catalog my entire you're drum sound exploded 'cause it sounded the way it did where i was sitting at ground zero that's that's the thunder that i that i bring sir that was in blood sweat and tears that produce them and that produced the tubes and played on dylan records the famous that we did the fox theater was thunder so you know bob's sound that he got on those on pronounced was was the wrongful death papers on my father's death i was the administrator of his estate and my mother was getting a big check and the first time i heard me and ronnie doing a song called train song i was spot on man because we rehearsed songs fifty she was upset i was upset you know they gave me this piece of paper this is your father's worth here and it's like i'm signing the check and i'm looking at these lawyers these cooper al was the one that got the warm fuzzy drum sound that bob got and when i came in on nothing fancy point in time if you guys got sold out arenas every night where you're in arena bad or was it more like civic center type venues when i got with the ban and so you know the sound that i got on after everything was digitally remastered i can live with for the rest of my life at our especially our live album i'd tears and al cooper comes out to the to my drums negroes artists what's wrong you know and i said well back to her house that my dad had built for her beautiful home dad was builder so she and i got into a fight because i flew up and i signed the papers the administrator i sign the papers and then i signed the chick and i gave it to mom and she drove me a dollar in the tank drove across atlanta went to studio one and recorded saturday night's session and i was crying burt reynolds movie and so this is a free bird is you or that's bob the free bird is me on all the live studs a studio version back from his death now it's not big compared to today's at the time but at the time and it should have been more but had a volkswagen microbus you couldn't do that these days but there was a curb about like this from the parking lot in the road so i walked my volkswagen bus my father was killed in a mid air plane collision in albuquerque i just signed the papers on his wrongful death i'm upset you know i flew up to columbus this morning in my pocket and i the atlanta airport i had to jump the curb because it was six bucks to get out of the parking lot and i didn't have six bucks but he's the guy who won the chance to interview me talk is jericho and interview all about the the history of fuzzy you heard on an episode of talks jericho about a year ago you're like saturday night special and free bird almost heavy metal to a song light the ballad of curtis low and simple man in every single skittered song car at a stop light it was raining i hitchhiked to the airport i had my ticket i flew back to atlanta i one dollar bloodsucking weasel attorneys you know what i'm going wow you know and i was i was mad so i flew i got in a fight with mom i got and he said i'm not trying to be insensitive he said but use it use that and you listen to the way tragic infamous rock and roll tragedies ever that your father also passed away in a plane crash dad was killed in a crash amazing i've been in three the bob played on and that i played on our different there's no two songs that you just play it straight beat yeah every song stops starts little hosters they landed in my uncle had his plane there and so we went sideways and at the last second sammy j kick the rudder over that curb because man bulldozers up driven second flyer planes i'd do anything right so walked it over got out went to a gas station you're like a move i've never seen before he kicked that rudder in the plane turned almost straight on but because we hit tailed rancor and all aluminum and we came in over the power lines and we got hit by coaches and we went like this and i'm sitting on this side what i live for especially as the drummer as drink ought to be right yeah it's got to be right now and i don't care if we did it fifty times let's do it again but the guys were going ronnie replace saturday night special man i am laying snare drum i am laying on you know it's almost iowa i played it like heavy metal so standard goes from the band that's the first time i played that saturday night special and algis said thank you it's amazing to me though will you talking about skin was and then the fact that you guys started traveling by private plane had no idea that even though you were involved in one of the most had about ten of us fifteen of us a whole bunch of us just dropped out from about sixty feet up you fell out of the chopper l. out of the and look for these guys but when we came in we had a power problems with the dual rotor and i heard something man gear we stood there at that microphone saying his words that he wrote because he meant them anything you know so you know that that that's how i got it would he do if he of course kills the oldest grandson right but so that was the first one that was the first one and then the second one was in the marine corps on a search and rescue mission but the navigator made it and he landed and his parachute but the the pilot of make so we found we found both plane crash you've been in three airplane crash and i was eleven my uncle and i- sammy jay williams my mother's oldest brother we ran assessment and i was like i didn't say anything but you know i was like hey let's do that again that was great sammy was white as ghost sure because i was the oldest of all i heard gears grinding and all of a sudden the back of the chopper dropped and we already had the tail down we already had the the tailgate down chopper and then so we're in the water and i'm looking up and that choppers coming down on top of us if the last second the pilot in for a down pilots and it was a phantom and they both punched out over the coast and the pilot was killed when you when you're little nuances you know so i'm very proud of that that are bannon and ronnie didn't he didn't who around stage and you know do all this stuff like the angle we bent are left landy amar are right landing your win in on that and then we landed and we did what's called a ground children my mother was the oldest of eight children two boys and six daughter six daughters and sammy was like white as a ghost because you know what loop and we went like that and bet the wing and the rain gear the plane was unflappable after we got through but i was i thought it was fine oh how did it diverted over and slammed in on a sandy beach oh my goodness and we have i was trying to help are you know reads water but it was it was deeper than this one guys height and so we got over to the beach you know and here's our chopper sitting over there so i had to fly to LA like five times i don't like getting on a plane if i'm not planet so i flew out there five times lots of takeoffs and landings coming through hartfield hartsfield and going through charlotte and so that's the worst times are the takeoffs and landings that's when you gotta worry about things my feet flat on the floor and i say my prayer and i end it's hebrew show may feel and i end with that so we were we came in and these helicopters and we're gonna land and get into boats and then go into the swamp and i'm literally looking out my window coming in to the is a grass landing gear is for all of our crop dusters it's where all the the guys that flew crops on the chopper we were all standing there with our gear full field packs machetes everything to go into the underbrush for the sky and in it dropped down like that fleeting our mission we found the guys and and they came in with another child or give a fear of flying at all having those issues so lots of love that i do like everybody else man i i don't push religion i believe in a higher power i lived in the castle of king david wright smoking and we're going how we get out of here but we got in the boats we went out we can didn't care no i do not have a fear of flying when i fly these days i did a movie about leonard skinner's ryan trash get on a plane there's a prayer that i called a way fares prayer and you you say you know protect me against ambush protect and then we pull off and i figure you know a lot of guys go you've been in three airplane crashes and technically me against evil amble animals you're supposed to say when you're leaving a city as you leave the city gates you say the waivers prayer will i plane crash in car wreck i had a really bad motorcycle rick broke my right leg in twenty one place my gosh that's why i wear boots yeah going to have a fourth airplane crash but they said well you probably said that on the second and the third to and i said no i didn't think about it that way but i i flew hang gliders you know i i think there's something after this but if i try to think about it too hard my little human brain might explode so i just live each day so what i do yeah i studied old testament i believe in a higher power but i don't try to tell anybody what that is it's it's in my mind and my heart because acquit that into when i'm sitting on the tarmac sitting on the runway at the takeoff when we power up put both hands on my knees because in this in this boot i've gotta build up gotcha yeah my my right leg is fused my ankles fused i'm stainless steel from the needs my ankle and whenever have them a DVD workout dallas page program is why i'm the first ever awa champion still rocking it every week and why was able to get on stage barge they had to take it out with a barge it was on flyable you're lucky you didn't die fallen out of the chopper sixty feet no they hit the water we were in the water i have a a harley davidson now that i ride up on the blue ridge parkway so for my age and my injuries you know i'm able to have mike doc because he had a full field pack on he was a short dude and he was underwater he was struggling to get underwater so i was trying to help him get his gear off you know and get his head above water and i watched that chopper made it was coming down right on and it went over and slammed into a beach they had to come in indeed dot com slash jericho terms conditions and quality standards apply booths talked with skinner crash and along to an eighteen foot regarded wing it's a delta wing jump off the cliff fly but then my last or even your skill level you don't have to be a professional athlete to do the DUI program it works for everyone and anyone it's also great for your mental health and wellbeing your mental state and go do it now talk jerry also supported by indeed dot com slash jericho when it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting your shortlist of quality candidates fast that's why you need indeed dot com slash jericho post a job in minutes set up screener questions and then zero in on qualified candidates using it our before we crashed we all got together and put our hands together man like the old you know brotherhood thing we all put our hands together and connect bluetooth heart rate monitor to the app to keep track of your workout data calories burned and get the app to stream to your TV so you can do the workouts on your big screen i got the app on my belong to jerry lee lewis and it was rolls royce engines on that thing it was in one thousand nine hundred forty seven or nineteen forty eight con phone just open it up choose the work i want to do and get going so take advantage of the seven-day free trial of the d. y. now app get started at said that we were going to get rid of the plane that we were on because it was a reciprocal it had a pratt and whitney powered and the one we had before that the open for iron maiden last month at the bank of california stadium in los angeles dini who i can do the same for you it doesn't matter how old you are forty eight twenty eight or what kind of shape you're in you've been flying on private jets for a while during the tour or is this a new thing no we didn't have jet but it's funny you should say that because an get that wherever books are sold let dallas and DWI change your life start today at DDP over dot com slash jericho getting the best mental and physical condition you've ever been in why now app it's so easy the app is everything you need to keep on track dp himself on there to help you stay focused on your goals and help you map out the workouts that are best for you breath was a pratt and whitney engines reciprocal no no turbo so it was slower more sluggish like i said i flew both of them attitude or just as important as your physical health and goes a long way to help at any recovery dallas made it super easy for you to try for yourself and thanks the DD you live online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsored jobs uses contrite for free at indeed dot com slash jericho that's alad gray and and i i read it well let's talk about the leonard skinner crash and the events leading up to it before you started on the story let me tell you how i take care of injuries and muscle aches and we had promised ourselves just an hour before we crashed that we were going to buy two brand new tour buses the rolls royce anderson was better the one that crashed was not as good yeah the one that crashed the way they got us to use it was a forty seven now i was born in nineteen forty eight fire five sixty jetprop with turbo it had turbo and fluid to athlete both of those planes wow the pilot would make sure that i wasn't drunk viagra dot com slash jericho pickup dallas book to help get you started it's called positively unstoppable the art of oni and it's filled with lessons from dallas his own life is your peter rudge was a crook and was stealing money from the band ronnie didn't liking but peter rudge when we crash that airplane and ronnie was killed catalogue and make vide- videos were big were coming in so they were gonna do videos with a cinematographer somebody like scorsese when ronnie was killed was his wife judy and our road crew one of the guys craig reid was carrying the divorce papers ronnie was divorced judge made multi millions of dollars because he had a key man life insurance policy on ronnie so the two people that made the most money and have them designed however the crew wanted to design them and for the girls are gonna get one for the girls and one for the the the the divorce papers on on the plane and so when ronnie was killed she hit the lottery and she is used that money to try mm-hmm which usually two and a half hours average but with a with a lear we could have done it like forty five minutes or less in that area so we divide and conquer leonard scattered us men he has idiots every cents and because she's got a bunch of blood second reason attorneys up in new york city that would suit their mother you know and i'm okay so i figured that plane in forty eight this isn't seventy seven sure i figured that planes fine but the one that they replaced judy he told us that he was gonna payoff divorce or pair off cinderella way that's what he told us and craig was carrying multiple millions of dollars peter rudge the manager made multiple millions of dollars he bought a he bought a soccer team with the money he made from ronnie's death there's you know she's been able to divide and conquer and cause so much trouble and united you stand divided you fall right and judy has divided us she made a billion dollars because leonard skinner is a billion dollar industry sure so she's got and get a lear jet painted all up man with our logos on it and everything and at the same time all of our catalog MTV was about to take oliver true then they could follow the equipment and they at the gig we were going to get a lear jet so that we could get on that lear jet man goes zip zip because our our flight times oh you know screwed up out of slip into the copilot's seat and less would let me fly and you know so the first one was better unlock it it it already got embiid gone away and i drove back to alex coolies loaded up my drums and went back home so yeah that was that was discourses here's somebody somebody really big was gonna come in and put together beautiful videos on all of our catalog so that that's yeah so you guys made this pact that we're getting rid of this plane getting rid of the plane by two new buses ronnie head he didn't like new york city are that never happened all of that that that cool stuff went to thirty eight special wow remember their member their videos those where they literally hook a hook to him and pull him up on a roof and swinging out over the crowd and he'd take big full bottles of four cans of beer and crashes on a helicopter and so i'm not gonna fly with you and i go man the safest place in the airplane with me are you kidding what are the what are the nfl video teacher and all those to all that cool stuff will that's what was gonna happen to us but because the singer of thirty eight special was ronnie's brothers donny don events and the lead singer for that man is don barnes he's the one who sang the hits gotcha but donny van zandt was a van zandt they'd put a stetson on him and they get him out there employment the people in the here see the store for full beard a few conspiracy theories going around at that time but you know i don't buy into it sure shirt i don't buy into so were you guys flying from greenville south carolina so a lot of people were going let see judy and peter made millions of dollars everybody else got strewed you know so there was lived in campobello south carolina and my wife drove me over and a jeep that i had bought her i had many jeeps even peter rudge's unbelievable thirty percent that ronnie was talking about how he was talking about a lot of money didn't make it really stepped out of the driver's seat onto the back step of the plane walked up in the plane kissed my wife goodbye walked up into the plain a to where it was supposed to make it so ronnie and all of us had designed a studio with loading docks for our semis back in was because ronnie didn't like what was going on in new york city ronnie explained it to us this way he says guys if we send a million dollars to new york city and i don't think like that so you know we ran out of fuel we took on four hundred gallons of fuel in greenville south even ronnie had told reg hey man you know i feel like there's money that's missing so we're going to move the whole operation to jacksonville level is will they didn't do that four hundred gallons it did not top off our tanks we were sixty miles away from baton rouge a beautiful rehearsal studio a recording studio and offices where we're going to do the whole thing in jacksonville florida that was going to happen it's supposed to end up in our bank accounts you know in our families in florida a million a million bucks doesn't show up and it's not i'm a jeep freak and so i had bought her this really cool brand new jeep for having my second son marshall he was born march twenty third nineteen seventy six did with the band was in greenville south carolina the last gig that i ever did with the band that running sang friedberg was in greenville and you dan we almost made it but we spiraled in from nine thousand feet everybody knew that it wasn't going to end well so when you're near china that did not top off the tanks but pilot if your pilot you're supposed to take a wooden stick and put it down in your tank if you're the gauges on a forty seven load the equipment apartments for all of us that lived out of state to live in while we're you know in in country in town recording recording and rehearsing bicentennial baby and i bought a jeep she drove me to the airport through all the little back roads through the peach orchards we drove up to the back of the plane of it it was red white and blue you know we wanted the other jerry lee lewis's airplane because it was cool but that was the plane that we had and we're gonna get the lear jet i mean that wasn't just something we were tossed around we were gonna do and then ronnie the reason i was telling you about peter forty eight airplane you don't really wanna trust all your gauges all school put dipstick in and see what you got to take a wooden stick and you look and you see where your fuel line to baton rouge and we were on our way to tibetan rouge louisiana and we were going to pick up a mechanic that was going to come out we had our name painted on the nose the prior to the flight do you remember anything we just hanging out you guys talk and playing cars would you guys do on the flight i was the last one to get on the plane because kevin was on the plane you'll get him they said he'd never walk again and he showed them they were wrong they said i'd never walk again or play again or do anything again and i showed them wrong but kevin and i an allen collins were standing up by the cargo door going into the cockpit door that they used to this bit plane was built for eastern aligns there was an airliner but we had configured f- like like a tour bus no bumps but there was a couch ronnie like the couch so in a mechanic to meet us in louisiana to fix the plane until we got our lear so i'm standing there and alan and i are smoking a big fat doobie you know and i'm looking over at the tarmac and i'm thinking to myself that's the last time i saw my father was when he flew down dugs right man it's firing off but it's choking out black smoke and i'm going that's not good so we had called ahead to falcon airways in dallas texas they were a beechcraft baron it was a company plane twin engine and they're nice plans and he flew down in the company beechcraft baron and he took off the door was open and we're watching them try to start the right engine and it's choking big black smoke you know it's yes shokhin down those all those alan collins and i and a guy named kevin elson he was our sound man kevin went oh yeah kevin is on that plane from right then and i'm looking at the place where my dad took off the last time i saw him alive and i'm smoking this dooby and i'm a with alan i don't think lines july fifteenth both of us were on a full moon man our water was a slashing and we and alan was a wild kevin kevin wasn't a he wasn't a pothead but i am a pilot so alan are smoking big dooby allen's birthday is july nineteenth ended up and we taxied out and took off in the wildly under about two hours later route nine thousand feet on our final approach look at me and go see if i was right okay and i'd say can i go go ahead so you know i'd had the controls you know i'm flying the plane you know a couple of times alan collins came up and he saw me flying the plane dad would be really proud of me and so we shut the doors we it'd man so we're smoking that dooby and i'm thinking this you know okay this russell my dad now i was kinda melancholy so but i but i thought you know come and see you know 'cause i enjoyed that that was you're sitting up there i was in the final approach right in the right engine choked out they're built to fly on one engine you just adjust everything and you can you can get it down and he said oh yeah yeah we can fly on one engine zombie and i walked back and strap myself in the first seat that i came to which was over the left wing on the aisle behind cassie gaines and i'm up in the cockpit 'cause i stayed in the little navigator jumped seat as much as i could because i love scene out at any time any the co pilot would get up to go to the bathroom and then while we were saying those words the other engine choked out and i know in marine corps of the planes that i worked on ABC and that's the engine we were having trouble and i said oh to walt walter mccreary the pilot i said walt we've got we can fly on one engine right he was he was his adrenaline was pumping and he said you better go back and strap yourself in ornaments i didn't say a word i just got up into the main bag but we didn't have any fuel to transfer he was like you know he's hitting all the things trying to transfer fuel and there's no fuel extra guiding donna crutch miner he worked for shoko our lights and sound we had everybody flattens we have light sound we have two guys from rolling stone that were traveling he'd run back through the cabin artem assist flying the plane armistice line the plane and everybody would run forward to see me up there doing you know and we're still gliding and we're going to try to make you know walter turned to me and his eyes were freaked out his eyes he was comes down the aisle and he's going to the back of the plane and i thought to myself that's that's a good thing you know ronnie in in the cockpit so i got to the point where if i ever did get to fly and i'd slip in the cockpit shut the door so that nobody could and put your head between your legs man that's that's the way it's done and i was i told everybody put after damn cigarettes you know and get ready belton get a pillow you know get into position when we when we when we come in you're gonna have to lean over go we were out of gas and i'm sitting there going wow so i got up and walked back through the cabin told everybody buckle up put your c and so i went back to the cockpit and i sat down man and we're we're looking we're coming out of the clouds we're trying we're still in clouds so just gliding gary the hawks you've got a main bag and you've got wing tanks and you've got drop tanks and you can transfer fuel from the drop tanks into the wings and then you can transfer fuel from the wings all fly by wire and so we're looking around i i'm strapped in and then ronnie nineteen others which is unheard of that the way our plane was torn up it's unheard of it anybody survived c. stripes in now you're going down we're going down so last time i saw him and we did the old hippie handshake you know boom boom boom and we're we got the hippy handshake ronnie gave me this beautiful smile onto the back of the plane it's safer back there and then he all of a sudden i realized runnings coming up the aisle he's right beside me i stuck out my hand and so romney knew his destiny and yet what did he do he walked back to the front of the plane he had a pillow in his lap and he should we shook hands he gave me this beautiful smile and then walked up the aisle in liden and we're looking you know all of a sudden we drop below the ceiling and we can see and i saw trees emceeing trees and and and i thought man you know so we must i thought we must be going to land on the interstate on i fifty five but ahead or the or the galley to get sandwiches whatever just stretches legs won't bend near the cabin i'd slip in you know and i look over lesson he uh-huh i see a john gray the co-pilot he comes back through the cabin and goes we're gonna try to make field or aura the interstate there i was there i heard the landing gear go down we still had hydraulics and i heard the landing gear go down but i didn't hear it we didn't say a word and he had told me in tokyo japan that he would not live to see thirty and he was going to go out with his boot son and it was just me and him sitting in a bar in tokyo at the at the at the cocktail lounge he said that and i said running man you're gonna live forever dude and he will his yeah doc when it locks there's a specific sound when the landing gear locks it's like a crunch crunch bang and the landing gear did not lock into the trees in the limbs got bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger that plane came apart i watched the left wing come off injuries and you could feel the trees brushing against the fuselage you can hear it scratching like that and as we lowered so you live forever so the thing about him not living to be thirty he said that he was twenty nine that day he's twenty nine we were running parallel to i fifty five goes from memphis down right that we're running parallel to it so we're all going i'm looking out the window were jamming and i saw that left wing just come off and i thought that's not good and then the act was just so hard it was just it felt like a thousand baseball bats being hit against the fuselage and it was just thump thump them you know and then we got down into the thick of the trees and the plane just started coming apart and then i was never knocked unconscious i've never been dear and we still had hydraulic scotch okay gotcha that's movie we had hydraulic system so they could the the flaps the rudders everything worked are you trying to guide it over to the interstate again flat because it's it's a nineteen forty seven airplane they didn't have digital control they have no computer course right so it's all knocked out and sew bam we stopped i'm leaned forward and my chest hurts really bad when we came out i'm looking out over the window out the window and i see the trees coming up so we landed we glided into mississippi did i i grabbed my balls to see if i was okay because i couldn't see and it was dark and there was smoke from i'm centered and i kinda tried to lean up but the wreckage on top of me so i pushed with my legs through the floor up but i heard don treads meyer yelling i'm trapped i'm pinned so i didn't realize that we were completely out of fuel back into my little space and i'm kind of standing there looking at dawn and i helped him bring his leg over this sheared off saying but i thought to myself man if we're going to land in a field you want you wanna belly in you don't want you don't want your landing gear because it'll trip in kretschmer who was sitting to the left of me and i pushed through the few the wreckage and cut my legs up really bad and got it hydraulic fluid hitting hot engines and there was there was just it you know so i reached out to grab myself and thought okay cleared out and dropped to the ground underneath the wreckage those hanging kind of it was kind of hanging and i had maybe you know about that far from the ground it didn't make it we were we didn't make it to the interstate we didn't make it to a field as we were going in this is disputed but i heard it i know it sounds like and the first thing you do i'm sure you know as a man first thing you do is you check your your package you check your junk and that's what it was a crimson maroon velvet pillow that we've we had different pillows on the thing and he grabbed one for impact who's going to put you know and and and jagged metal all under me and there was a little sampling tree that had come up through the fuselage between the legs of don was up against a bulkhead and i went to take a pulse i went to see if i could get pole sunny right here and the plane used to be a started going up there and i found the cockpit area and then i found both of the pilot and co-pilot he had the tournament on i've made a turn out of a piece of shirt something so then i made my way to the front of were the rest is history so when when you're like how did you guys end up landing well article fifteen twenty people on this we had twenty six twenty six twenty six people on board and six were killed on impact and y'all where's the pilots because in a situation like that you think the pilots are the authority right the captain of the ship yeah you know so and i got his legs threaded him down behind me through my opening and he dropped to the ground i helped him over to a tree there is another guy sitting a pilot walt was torn to pieces hawaiian he was decapitated hanging in a tree oh my gosh and the co-pilot the centrifugal force the force both of my shoes had come off my boots i had on their steel toed locks boots he was not attached he's hit his he was cut all up and i heard billy powell that they're not laced up so if you drop liquid oxygen into your boot you can get your boots off quick i liked him they were black they had steel toes over got down to the ground and i'm thinking you know i'm going to have to stand up i felt like i had to stand help back to the crash site which is exactly what i did but as i left the scene when in in the crash okay so does this look like when a car at a gas you still have control but you still can control the plane you just can't slow it down but you still can the under the leather and both of those boots had just come off my feet so my socks were about six inches over the edge of my toes got to find them and that everything will be okay and i yelled to billy as loud as i could with my injuries i said the pilots are definitely gone uh and i knew at that time the only thing that was going to help my friends was for me to put one foot in front of the other go get help find help bring him oh x. which stands for liquid oxygen in the marine corps when you're working on an airplane and you're putting liquid oxygen into the plane you have these boots that they issue just so i got through the water and there was a snake slithered by me it came up my peripheral head off i said that out loud and when i heard myself say that out loud i laughed i kind of went he doing oh yeah and so i couldn't bend over to pull my socks up or take them off and there was a jacket belong to steve gaines i thought the whole thing's gonna burst into flames so i heard done so i've threaded myself back up through the wreckage that i'd just come out of so i thought well i'll just go in the direction that we were headed though and i was wrong because we had a ceiling it was still daylight yeah but when you get down under that canopy of the trees and then as time goes on so it's october it's getting dark triage so i made a turn again i totally i remember saying to him you know about targets you gotta back it off every five minutes or you know you'll you'll lose that'd be going into shock so i put it around me i put it i you know i got my arms and it was painful to put a coat on but i knew that i needed to something vision picked it up it was coming i saw this snake and i literally made myself laugh i don't know why did this but i said to the snake i will bite you also a denim jacket hanging in the wreckage and i just looked up and i saw it and i i pulled it out and i knew about shock that blink and you know what grass smells like it when you cut the grass you know what you're cutting down a tree it's got that joe and i could smell them you know and the snake slithered on it just you know i don't know what kind of snake it was it was black you know in the water and it was difficult because the briars the brambles underneath me we're getting caught on my socks that i was trying to pull my feet nose is went straight in i don't even know how far maybe a mile iran into a plowed field and i came pretty much getting tonight dusky son sons going and especially beneath the canopy of the tree it's dark when we were above the canopy even though there was a cloud in your your arm and he's got it usually end up against a tree and don kretschmer was leaning up against the same tree the i saw them there there with a severe injury arm is arm and he was bleeding profusely and i i made a turn it i you know in the marine corps and trained and all the cartilage in my chest gotcha all the way down allow was my whole chest plate was was it wouldn't cut but all the cartlidge inside the you don't know where you're going i have well i did they said that we were headed in the direction of a field okay or the interstate right there's cows there's people somewhere so ahead no leverage to jump or make a move that you've broken a rib or something i had broken that is the last night that ronnie van ever same free bird was in greenville and ironically enough the very first major gig that lay on top of the barb wire fence which was now pleasant and i laid horizontal on the barb wire fence i was being to a barb wire fence out of the the trees in the swamp and there was like twenty cows on the other side of the fence and i knew that by all the barbed wire all the way linked to my body and i rolled over and dropped on the ground and all these cows may have i'm not saying i would french kiss all those cows but i would have french kissed every one of those counts because they were beautiful survival for you you knew that it was people so i got up and i'm walking across this field and it was a freshly ploughed field it's hard to walk on deep furrows than freshly ploughed field if you're a health on so i started walking and i got into water the wrist like a black sea walking through a forest base dance a little swamp forest you don't have cows are they just walked up and they're kind of looking down at me and i'm gonna tell you man those cows they were beautiful to me sir order so it just went on buying like is it so he says dr because it's kind of nighttime we rashed at six forty three in october so impact yeah i went dead on the impact and it ripped all my chest lou hartwich companion so i couldn't jump so a head intern tight 'cause we were doing this we were looking bad we were looking for a place to land so i the adult man so i got across the field i found a a gravel road and there was some guys behind me that it started coming out of the plane of kenny peden p. e. d. e. n. kenny he worked for shoko and then mark frank who lives in spartanburg south carolina honey we had an airplane crash and there are people that have been killed i said i'm alive and i gotta go back i said you're going to see it on television let's hear it on the radio but i'm alive and she said honey you know and i said and i with my you know is much breath as i could i said i can't wait you wait i gotta go so and i tried to stop but i was i was stumbling and i took another few steps and he heard a gunshot and i saw it just like that a cotton puff and i i was confused but when it hit me it spun me ago it was less than thirty seconds and she said i understand so i walked back out johnny put me in his pickup truck and here comes title so i passed a driveway and it was a farmhouse and a barn and a barnyard so turned up in the barnyard and i saw people and started kinda stumbling that way all of a sudden the pickup truck comes out on the gravel road and hauls ass i started walking toward the house and a guy comes out of the house with a gun he sees me and he tells me to stop stop uh i got to the gravel road out in the country i turned to the right 'cause i heard music coming out of a pickup truck that was sitting in a field up off the road and i saw it and i could hear the peop- i could hear the music i felt something sting me in my shoulder josh and i i was already in shock from the plane crash so i didn't know what it was and i saw cotton on beside me it can almost spun me around like a cartoon and it smoke a dust from the gravel road and they thought i was like some escaped you just kinda pick me up took me into his house into this little farmhouse i didn't even ask i walked over to a wall phone i picked it off the go my god and i spun to the ground and i yelled with what i thought was the last breath i ever would take plane crash and johnny johnny all kinds of cars coming up because it was a civil defense drill a week before and they were prepared it was a civil thing i dialed my number directly adopted my wife and i said honey she picked up the phone and i'd just seen her two hours early to the plane back in the days where hippies weren't the pillars of society let's say and so they pass me i'm choking on the smoke so i turned and kind of just kind of like zombie just kind of started following the truck it was going somewhere you know and maybe that's right and so there were highway patrol cars local constables police cars who had who had alerted them ambulances john and i just went like this we went out of his driveway through a ditch up a bank through a fence boom boom boom like that criminal or something because i'm covered with blood oh i'm bleeding and i looked like charles manson so they're not gonna stop and go hey can we help you the coat that steve gaines had had a little pants like this go to wearing had a little bit of a pad you know in in the to to give it shape up to come for that so they came to that area so they were all pulling up and you know and it was it was a sight life medical bags emergency stuff going in and they asked me they said where is it and i said if you take baseball and you throw working he looked like freaking little abner man he had a little waste he had a big man he was built you know he had arms on him and and when we went in and just all the farms around there all the people heard it and they thought a train had derailed so they all you know mustard from home plate to center field you'll be right on top of the plane and the guy looked at me like got it and lawyer that had made it over there so he drove me back to the gravel road and then to the main road and he was taking me to the hospital sir what do you do he goes i'm an attorney i'm a lawyer and i said counselor slowdown it took me to magnolia a liberty liberty county mississippi magnolia and the hospital was named magnolia but we ended up offense knocked down all the all the cars so the last thing i saw before they took me away was one hundred people with joslin above four wheel drive some of them couldn't some got stuck in the field a lot of made it to write read come out of the woods now i'm like you know he's holding me and behind us are all these rescue vehicles and going across some of them could make oh i don't know if i never did know that because the whole county heard it all i see they thought it was a train wreck i see god because of the noise and i kept pointing and right there's came out of the woods there were still some kausar and they went over the fence they drove over for soraya's to me because it was help so johnny put me in his pickup truck with that big strong arm he held me up against the seat and he said you point i'll drive named every single person on that plane except for two and they were the two guys from rolling stone hall i hadn't gotten to know them yet and went across the road and went down embankment and we're sliding oh my god he's got it back up on the road and i said remote he ran over he picked me up and said oh my god i'm so sorry and he best the farmer that was the fallon he was a a twenty year old farmer with you know took off and that's the last thing i saw was them going into help my friends because they were bleeding every second counted so they put me in a pickup truck with going in five different hospitals so when i got to the hospital they put me on a gurney and they said can you tell us how many people were on the plane that was that was that was a shock and then dean kilpatrick you've been here you've been asking who made it who didn't and i said yeah and he said you want are you ready and and look for and and then they took me away and the next day you know the doctor came in and he said and he was at the front of the plane and that plane was torn to pieces he said are you ready and i said yeah so i didn't expect steve gaines but i did account for their bodies and they weren't killed they survived i did account for their presence on the plane so they know they knew how many human and he was driving like a maniac and he got on the gravel road and he's fishtail and he got to the end of that stop sign i remember he missed the stop sign said yeah i knew ronnie i knew ronnie didn't make it he told me in tokyo is that i'm not gonna live he knew his destiny he's personal guy got dean would arrange he looked like a rockstar to had long hair he was a handsome guy he was the greed has ruled her life she spoke well in the documentary but they talk about team and he was like ron it's fun you know he would arrange limousines hotel rooms flights if we needed it he would rain watch it because it's really good gary spoke really well he's funny ad king spoke while he was funny judy van zandt even though you know she's uh and i knew the pilots were dead because i found him that wasn't a shock but was dean what are your crew dean was he deigned man and that you know i hated to hear that but i knew he was up front so the pilot the co-pilot dinka patrick cassie gaines steve gaines and ronnie van zandt every time i play music and i'm playing the skittered songs i think about them i'm i'm drawing strength from all of them eh i said i just survived an airplane crash and i think it guy shot me i don't want to die in a car wreck on the way to the hospital slow the in a lot of pain all the time with my legs my injuries and stuff push everything away i concentrate and focus immediately now so he he said yes certain because i i did not i look i look back and he said yes sir and he rule he came out and played guitar on simple man we was the last song of the last day of the jam it was sold out the place had been sold out every day as money for the habitat for humanity it's called christmas jam warren haynes does it every year raise build houses for people that need homes and dave brought us both back to life any and dave said we're kindred spirits man i said i reckon so man we are less couple questions where he would exist a new documentary out called if i leave here tomorrow on showtime you should watch her name's on showtime demand yeah if you go someplace oh by plane that music especially the skittered stuff i push everything else aside i push all of the pain well i went i was i could walk right and i wanted everybody we went to five different hospitals they met have act you know did not survive but it was you know it it's something i think about every day it's it's not like you know you're bringing up stuff when i really get into it was a delay they lost him while they lost him two times where they had him and then he they lost him they had calls me up on stage to play simple man and i'd i'd seen him before the show and he said man we both lost our singers right in tragic circumstances see everybody else in the hospitals that close to my hospital in magnolia after three days and i had my friend jack diamond phillips drive me gary and alan because their injuries are so bad to let me just say everybody was bad everybody has a billion powell lost directly on those songs for that two hours that i'm on stage and it saved my life i was talking to dave grohl back at christmas at did a thing to read inch anything gotcha yeah you know somebody in the band wanted something isn't important guy to have guy and he'd be on stage with towels and cigarettes you know the crux of it sometimes it's very emotional hard dirtiest man it it wells up i never know when to expect it but i think about it every day i think about them every day everybody was in great spirits man were expecting two feet of snow that i drove my jeep 'cause i got a winch and i've got four wheel drive and i took my son an shots is a road manager stage manager he really he really was stage manager roadman yet and he was killed and dean was a great person snows billy's knows was almost severed leon's arm was never the same he had to play bas- basically upright for the rest of his career base thing made so leon and i said are you in their man because he couldn't talk and i said are you in there dude and he was like it really it affected me and i saw some guy leaning on a shovel made a comment about a bunch of drug addicts and i went for him big old dude had a bib overalls on and my friend jack diamond phillips he put his arms around me and he said no artemis and i just started walking down here and a nurse ran up and started to grab me and i heard a doctor say he was in the plane crash letting go oh and wire his mouth shut you know he was swelled up but i went to see everybody that i could i couldn't see gary allen but i i went to see he had a ticket to go see it and they when i drove up they said artists you wanna come in and i said okay so i came in placements packed dave grohl so that's all i needed was that he was actually still cognizant so and i knew he'd make so then i went back to my room and to the crash site and they were loading pieces of the plane they had big trucks they had bulldozed a road into the plane and they had he didn't swelled up he was all swelled and he should not have lived and i just i just looked at him which you know i always put a band together called studebaker hawk and you know i was kicking it again but gary in allen call me you know a a dirt bulldozed road and they had big trucks and they were dropping pieces of the airplane into the trucks and it sounded like the crash i ended up going home there's funerals down in florida for ronnie i couldn't go to i was still injured and and i walked into leon's room and he had every machine you could imagine hooked up to him his eyes were glassy and just bugging out of his head his we're both in the rock and roll hall of fame and i said because ronnie he goes and he said and music mm-hmm lost him then he came back leon was amazing he was totally cut his whole gut was cut open they had to open him up right here and so nine of a nod so you know he was letting me know that that he he was there even though he couldn't talk or move or anything did you guys ever see each other in the hospital or was it like i guess my question is when did you all get together to discuss and figure out what the you're going to do and jack's gone now to he's an amazing person but he drove me around to all the hospitals kahal creeped back into the scene so everybody in the band and i mean everybody massive gluttonous over consumption anna i eventually got sick of it in toronto canada i threw a fit i threw bottles of it screamed jumped up and down i didn't hit anybody almost but it was said guys i'm the drummer so that i could see everybody and i went in to see leon and they said he's an ICU you can't seem has who yes i can you know in jerusalem israel right and i'm studying old testament over there and i get a call from gary and alan and they say man it's been ten years oh came massive over gluttonous consumption of alcohol champagne 'cause you know we were making big bucks in making big bucks there's basically you guys new at this point in time the band has done women there's no continuing will when you lose a lead singer ronnie van zandt so i moved you know eventually i ended up johny danza old johnny came and got your johnny and he came up and everything was looking good until cocaine and every night and why are you fighting because of the cocaine you're all in bad moods all the time you stay up all night talking about how great you are chain smoking cigarettes and we're gonna put the band back together and i'd had a couple of different little bands that i played just to keep my chops up and see if i could play the real leonard scattered and i don't wanna be in something less and i said this is sucking you guys think you're really good you're is and everything and i said we'll cool so i came back to america we rehearsed without on the tribute to it was great who sang and said we're gonna put together the tribute tour we're going to do one hundred cities we're gonna start with charlie daniels we're going to go all over the place you know you can raise money for all of your cause couldn't go to the funerals but linda blair that was a good friend of the band that she was in the exorcists she was reagan right so she she was down there scott buster for coke and they banned her from florida for five years or something but lot there's too much coke too much alcohol you know this is not the man that i wanna be in you got all your wives out of here you guys are by champagne and cocaine for all and i'm still smoking a little weed and keeping myself together for the shows kings pui through say through plate glass windows i destroyed our dressing room i tore it up through ship i yelled you know and i'm done and i was hoping that that would snap everybody back to reality and everybody go look you can do whatever you want the. we're injuries then college issue cuts stitches cuts on my legs for pushing my way through the wreck sure i said man you know maybe maybe we can pull this out i'm going back to florida and so i got back to florida oil and and then who is like the first duma who you saw from the band did you and they went deeper got another drummer they went through fifteen sixteen drummers after i left you know and in your home you can do whatever you want on your own time but when we're on that stage everybody must be present and that's what i was hoping for and that's what i told him i was leaving listen to the fans for hours tell me where they were when the plane crash how the music affected their lives guys that were in prison simple man got me through a bikers they went deeper and deeper into this thing where they were just snorting giant lines of cocaine now i've done kane kane is cocaine is that bob had the problems that he didn't we had to lose bob and i think that bob burns would eventually come back because a lot of the southern rock bands had two drummers ah you know i ride a lot of bikers bury their friends to free bird so you know i i used to have my favorites now i love them all but if i had to pick in chris now they're all sentimental i you know now every single song has a meaning to me because it has a meaning to the fans and i sit in you know fencing all all this stuff that these kids are dying on now you know the opioids and everything i do i do all kinds of stuff all over the country for opioid abuse i'm no angel but i i knew what it was i knew what it affected i knew how demeaning and so i am totally anti-cocaine i am totally anti eight one song that is my favorite to play and that is saturday night special because that song meant so much yard was a serious movie elliott about integrity strength and the glory of victory and the agony they were some degree you know they were about something one hundred yards or whatever behind me when i came out into the field and they kept yelling for me to wait i love them all am i losin is a great song that i love plane because it's about bob burns because ronnie loved bob and he was lowest price period stephen singer's committed to one price with no pricing games stephen says he wouldn't treat his friends any other way so why would he treat you any differently lot of fun it's great for about fifteen isn't that the truth right chasing the dragon exactly so everyone loves talking about stephen singer you've heard the expression a million times i hate steven singer well stephen says that phrase was started because the competition hey you for the rest of our lives with friends call me anytime thank you thank you brother the westwood one podcast network to me and it was in that burt reynolds movie and i thought it was going to be like another stroke or ace or some movie that was funny right but but the longest it's the pricing of his quality merchandise that's why and steven singer jewelers doesn't run special sales because stevens philosophies this whatever you walk in you should be paying the sure charlie daniels you brothers yeah a lot of the bands i'm so i thought bob would eventually come back to the ban it didn't happen because it might have happened any of defeat and i was really proud to be in that movie in the first time i ever saw that movie i was in a theater the carolina theatre in spartanburg south jersey is people are going to love it rate meeting you man thank you for the interview i appreciate all the questions and you know you'll have my telephone number but we've crashed the plane ride ronnie was killed and the rest is history we'll did your piece of rock and roll history and i really appreciate i'm looking forward to jam with you tonight mattress we're going to champion right visit the real stephen singer at the other corner of eighth and walnut in philly or online at i hate stephen singer dot com stevenson right last question for you because it's gotta go do VIP through all all of this what are your favorites skin songs to play live to this day well john afternoon matinee there was like four people in the whole place and me sitting dab in the middle of saturday night special came on man and i yelled who well and that's me i'm looking charles manson people like some doing they're yelling at the we'll

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Postsecondary education and training is key to economic mobility

Work In Progress

23:20 min | Last week

Postsecondary education and training is key to economic mobility

"You're listening to work in progress. I'm Ramona schindelheim editor-in-chief of working Nation work-in-progress explores rapidly changing workplace through conversations with innovators Educators and decision-makers people with solutions to today's Workforce challenges joining me today on work-in-progress wage is Tamar Jacoby president of opportunity America tomorrow. Thank you very much for joining us on the podcast. Thank you for the opportunity Ramona. I would love for you to explain wage opportunities mission is what you guys are doing. So four people in the audience who don't know about it. I'd love them to learn a little bit about it. I what I've learned is great. Well you're too, we're a policy and research shop based in Washington DC, but with a national scope, you know, the way I think about our work is I I feel that work for Samsung. Fashion career preparation CTE whatever you want to call what we all work on in a really exciting time in that deal last ten years have been a time of amazing Innovation and creativity and ferment but it's still sometimes. My metaphor is Silicon Valley in the late seventies early eighties. There's a garage on every corner. There's Innovation happening all around us. It's very exciting, but it's still early days and there's room for a catalyst to help Advance some of that Innovation lift up, you know find the better mousetraps lift up the better mousetraps connect the people that are making the better mousetraps to each other and make room in the policy world so that these better mousetraps can flourish and that's what we try to do and we're not the only organization like that idea so you could describe yourself the same way, but we do everything from kind of research to convening to policy advocacy to you know off Technical assistance and we and we and we're not we're we're we're small and lean and mean and Nimble so we kind of pick our where we think we can be strategic and I go there for those who are not filled when you talk about CTE is this what we used to call vocational training it is but but this is what's so interesting. Is it off, you know, because you're training used to be looked down upon and used to not be very good. It used to be a second-tier opportunity for or you know, opportunities of two nights a word for it was a second here, you know track really where we sent students of color and sometimes less able students and others the last ten years or so have seen a real reinvention of of you know, what we renamed Career and Technical education. I usually use the term Workforce preparation or job focused education and and they're two things here. They're too important thing. Things one is that the economy is really changing so that you know, we used to talk we talk about the future of work. It's not the future of work. It's been going on for two or three decades for decades and some Industries wage manufacturing have the future of work since the 1970s that that Automation and intensifying of the workplace change in the workplace means that everybody needs more skilled adults and the person with the Ph.D means a postdoc the person with the Bachelors needs a masters and the person who used to get by in high school really need some kind of post-secondary education or training or or even you know, better preparation in high school for the world of work and that demand that need for change in the in the world of Education post-secondary Education and Training has spurred Innovation. And so, you know that yes, the old vocab was kind of a sad story and you know in some ways, I don't know for some decades. Maybe we didn't need it as much as we do now. We now need it used to be able to log in. Job at the Ford factory with only a high school education or less than a high school education. You didn't need you didn't even need to speak English and you didn't need technical skills. They're not too many. Well paying jobs in America anymore for people can't speak English and don't have some kind of skill. I think what's interesting about that too is that it's expanded as you said technology and the the skills involved with them. It's not just in building computers. You need it in healthcare. You need it in manufacturing and you need problem solving also, right? So once upon a time off of the workers in most companies, you know what the boss told them to do and they didn't have to do a lot of problem solving and and and the orders came down from on top organizations or jobs or horizontal today and everybody needs to do problem solving mean. I've been thinking a lot about manufacturing lately and I mean, you need to be a very independent autonomous critical thinker problem. Over to succeed in manufacturing today and that's a that's a that's a challenge for a society to get everybody to the level where they not only have some kind of technical skill, but they also have these these broader really Communications critical thinking problem solving teamwork skills. You just released a new report that looks at one of these training programs through a community college with manufacturers what have tell us about the program and what have you found in terms of success rate? Yeah. So this is the program is called abbreviated. It's called Fame that's short for Federation of advanced manufacturing Federation for I guess Advanced package factoring education. It originally started was Toyota and a couple of other companies in Kentucky. Now, it's nearly four hundred companies Nationwide. It's it's like an apprenticeship programme in the sense that doesn't call itself in apprenticeship program, but it's like an apprenticeship programme in the sense that the students spend part of the day in the classroom or part of the week in the classroom and then part of the week on the job where it's but it takes that classical apprenticeship model and it adds some really interesting twists to it. One of the twists is that it's not the learning Goes on at a college but who's really organizing the initiative and who's making the decisions and picking the students and picking the curriculum and making sure it works are these employers wage really are kind of in the driver seat. I mean a lot of community colleges have Partnerships with employers but it basically means that the employers come to a meeting once a year and the college doesn't really listen to the advice and fame the emotions are driving it. That doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's just training for one company. You learn how to be a technician in modern advanced manufacturing, but it means that you're definitely learning the skills that employers need and when you come out your those employers are going to be standing there ready to hire you that's the first Innovation that the inputs on top of a classic apprenticeship program and the second Innovation is that I'm speaking to what I was going to relating to what I was just speaking about a minute ago problem solving critical thinking only one third of the program is technical 2/3 are these other song? Ills one of those thirds is sort of sort of standard work ethic show up on time, you know stand up straight look people in the eye kind of skills and that the third third is critical thinking problem-solving communication learned through lean manufacturing principles largely. And and these these technicians come out, you know, just extraordinarily well equipped for what's needed in kind of in modern manufacturing. So our study, you know, that was my hypothesis going in was that they found out well equipped what our study did was look at what they are and what we found was that after five years if you compare Fame graduates with other vocational education CTE graduates from the same community colleges the fame people earn 80% more $45,000 more a year. I mean, that's a pretty amazing paid off. And the study also included. I mean, they're more likely to graduate there a lot of other data we have but the the real you know, the the oh my gosh number is their earnings home at the I had the opportunity to observe first-hand the same program in st. Charles Missouri and met some of the people going through the program and what I really appreciate about what I saw was that they were of all ages. It wasn't just someone right out of high school. I met a young woman who I think she was 39 and she had two children and she had gone from working in a retail cashier role to training to this and then she had a family sustaining payroll afterwards and that I think your your reportage bearing that out that this now becomes this kind of earn and learn program. She really got the experience. She needed she got a job and she was able To raise a family on that in the community where she was living. So I the local part of that I think is really important as well. You know, I I I agree and I the other part of our study is relevant to that. We looked at this data about earnings and we had State data for that. But we also did our own survey of graduates and 230 graduates responded to an online survey about what they thought was, you know, how you know, we asked them look at these amazing results. You're earning so much more. What's the secret sauce? You know, what does the program do that's good. And they all talked about this the earn & Learn component. What was really interesting was the I mean they were very high job satisfaction. You know, eighty ninety percent thought it was a great program would recommend it highly to their friends et cetera ninety-seven percent. I think would recommend it highly to their friends. But what was really interesting was the older students and the ones who were in some ways wage As well prepared for a community college degree with the ones who got the most out of it. So they all said they were more like ten percentage points more likely to say I this was really the right decision for me and I would recommend it strongly to a friend and I'm now, you know, very satisfied on my job and you know, the program bills itself as being primarily for for traditional college-age students, but my takeaway was its it is for traditional college-age students and it's a great even for the people in the top third of their High School class, you know, they appreciated it too. But the people in the June 3rd the people who enter older people who never thought they'd go to college they get a lot more out of it. And the reason they do I think is because they have this experience on the job that helps them gives them a way to enter into the classroom learning. They're often people who before said like, why do I care about math? And why should I sit in math class and I'm bored with this and that teachers lecturing me suddenly wage. Care about the topic because they just did it yesterday in the factory and they need a little help figuring it out. And so so I mean, it's just you know, it's one of the this is one of these happy circumstances where you suck program is good and you look at it a little, you know more closely and actually turned out to be really good. It's nice to do a paper like that as opposed to the other way around. So this sounds that the conclusion thought this would be we have to figure out ways how to scale this, you know, nationally, how do we you know, it's already in thirteen states, but how do you show people that this apprenticeship model works? Yeah. So I mean the big drag on apprenticeship right Trump and before him Obama and lawmakers in every state everybody kind of got has gotten the memo about apprenticeship down and they are all working hard and have been working hard to scale it, you know a mama spend about a quarter of a billion dollars Trump is spent a billion state every month. State of the nation has you know something advancing apprenticeship the the the Obstacle of the main sort of you know, bottleneck is getting employers to to buy and and to sponsor. It. It's it's there's reasons for that. It's expensive and it's employers have to you know, it's it it takes time and money and effort and resources at the company and it's a commitment on the company's part and the the US tries to Advanced apprenticeship mostly through programs that are that have a lot of government involvement and a lot of companies don't like that. So the the message is all right. We need to scale this in my view. It's that we need to scale it. It's about showing employers the benefits helping them get started if they need that kind of help, you know, maybe cutting away some of this month and that makes it an appealing to employers and I think you know, we all talk about apprenticeship what's important the beauty of the same model. I mean the I think it's the e What Fame teaches me I guess is a better way to put it is that it's the principles of the thing that are important. So, you know Fame is yes, a two-year program Fame involves a community college, but the key is the earn & Learn training and you know in a different occupation, maybe you don't need two years. Maybe all you need is six weeks and nobody would call that an apprenticeship a six week program, but what's important is the earn to learn training what's important is the soft skills. What's important is the employer involvement and what's important is the job waiting the clear Target job waiting at the agenda. If you do this, right you will land in a job and those components can also be Advanced separately from advancing the whole apprenticeship package. When you look at the role Community College plays in this model. Is it evolving or has it always been there? Yeah, so traditionally in America wage Apprenticeships were very much focused on blue-collar trades and there were the education that was not community colleges doing the education and nobody was thinking about people getting degrees off the ships are often run by labor unions and they had their own people doing the instruction. I don't know who offered instruction if it wasn't a union but this is not traditionally been linked to a you know institution of higher education. That's a new development. You know, it's a promising development cuz we also want people to get degrees of possible. That's a good thing. It's it's a work-in-progress. So what is your approach to how we should be reimagining the role of community college or how has it been reimagined? Can you go to there an amazing institution in American life? Right? There's twelve hundred of them all across the country. There is many people community colleges as in four-year schools. I think many of your listeners may not know that it's not just some little thing over in the corner. It's as big as the 4-year sector it's you know, there's no there's home. Any place in America where you can't drive to a community college and half an hour? I mean, maybe somewhere in Montana or something but not too many other places, but they're mixed bag, right they've had kind of an identity crisis over their own lives. They're not sure if they should really be institutions that prepare people to go to four-year schools, you know, basically a stepping a cheaper stepping stone to a four-year school or whether they should really be about pairing people to go to the workforce or whether they should be doing, you know, a bunch of other things like letting you know, hobby like like French cooking classes for people in the in the in the neighborhood and so they they've kind of an identity crisis. They've been their graduation rates are very poor. They have many of them have a kind of you know, oh poor poor little redheaded stepchild me attitude, but they have great potential and some of them have been realizing this recently and innovating and the potential is they all have a dog A lot of experience even if they even if they pooh-poohed it and thought of it as kind of second here. They have most of them have quite a lot of experience getting people ready for the workplace. Most of them know employers wage. They can innovate a lot faster than four year colleges generally and they they have the infrastructure. They are all over America with buildings and machinery and labs and now on lung capacity and now that the nation needs this new, you know that the future of work is requiring this new, you know, large-scale Education and Training for people who aren't going to get bachelor's degrees community colleges are the obvious institution to do it, but they do need too many of them do some work to bring themselves, you know to adapt to that role to sort of shake off that identity crisis and and and embrace a new role as weird the institution that's best position to prepare people for the workforce and it might it doesn't mean we're not going to send people to a four-year Institution. The best way to prepare them for the workforce might be to prepare them for a bachelor's degree. But we're going to focus on what our region needs economically we're going to make sure everybody has some kind of job skills when they graduate wage, even if they think they're going to a four-year college and we're just going to make that much more our mission and where it more proudly and this isn't just my vision. This is you know, I'm crystallising I think a vision that a lot of people hold for them to colleges that I've tried to play a role in in crystallizing and articulating and getting out to the world and you know Finding receptive audience cuz there's a lot of people in the community college sector who would like to take on that role as well. Is there a an effort to get state and local leaders industry to get together with the community colleges to create credentialing that can signal to employers that I've gone through this program. I have these skills and I know these are the skills that you need in your community for the jobs that are available. Yeah. Well, that's that's America, right? So nothing happens very little happens on a one-time centralized. It's happening everywhere scale that's going too bad right in Germany like the government would decide and then we would have a credentialing system tomorrow in America. It's a thousand flowers building in a lot of different places and we're moving toward a credentialing system. And again, that's good and bad a lot of States Constitution's are doing what you suggest a lot of trade associations are working to develop credentials that reflect what employers need industry certifications are generally call a lot of colleges are adopting them off. A lot of states are creating incentives for colleges to adopt them and funding and kind of screening systems so we can figure out which ones are valuable and which ones aren't there's a lot of action going on around it. There's still a lot of work to be done. There's you know, that's you know, the furniture store says it's a big country. Somebody's got a printer said it's a big country takes a long it takes a while back in Innovation like this to kind of roll over the country and take root everywhere but it's but that is certainly happening. Just what you described, you know have my own personal Obsession that there are a lot of good things happening in terms of helping job Seekers job holders find the right skills. They need for jobs that are going to provide a good pay. They're going to provide upward Mobility economic Mobility, but that there's a lack of communication out there to people in the communities that hey this is this exact We can we can help you. Is there any part of your policy or think tank? That is trying to help get that word out there. You know, I I completely agree with you on and we you know, I I do try to do that we do that is part of what we see as our role. I mean, we just published a a major report that was again not a product of my things not necessarily but it we convened a group of thinkers both bold-faced name education reformers and people on the ground from on the ground at colleges that are doing instituting some of these options and we spent a you together thinking, you know, thinking through what should the role of Community College B and came up with a with a report that is both a call to action and a very detailed, you know, if you want to improve this part of your community college try these steps, but that's just a paper. I agree with you that what's made it is more cross-pollination between states many states have no choice. With the I mean Most states have no idea what other states are doing and many colleges have no idea what other states what other colleges are doing. And I mean, I would have thought that this was more, you know, people all those all organizations that we all pay attention to the alphabet soup of organizations have conferences where we're part of what they tried to do is disseminate best practices, but somehow they're still need a big space to be filled of disseminating best practices and connecting people with each other and I'm not you know, my little organization alone. We do it I'm constantly giving talks in one state where I bring someone from another state and explains what they're doing. That's not the scale that's needed to really create the connections that are needed and I think you know, you're right to pose the challenge need to be thinking harder about that. And I I also would like to challenge local media to think about something other than if it bleeds it leads and talk about 1 a.m. And make your community Stronger Yeah, I mean I agree with that but it is hard, you know a former journalist myself. It's hard to make this stuff sexy enough for the newspaper. I mean, I'll just say that you walk into a great job of making it appealing but you know, I used to I used to work on immigration. And when I worked on immigration, I was on T, you know, at least once a week. I don't think I've ever been under warranty since I started working on wage and it's not, you know people think of it as process and they think of it as you know, how a school Works who cares. You're right if you start to talk about the wife is the why why is it important? It's more appealing but it's it can be awful hard to get media attention for this kind of stuff and hard for the media to play the role of you know, I'm really need is cross-pollination between states and colleges. That's not really a role for media. You know, there's too much nitty-gritty explaining that has to go on there. Well, I'm going to still make it my mission tomorrow. Thank you so much for joining me. I really appreciate it. And I would urge everybody to check out this new report on Fame and you can find it on our website. Thank you for the opportunity Ramona. My pleasure. Thank you. I've been speaking to DeMark Jacoby president of opportunity America. This is work in progress. I'm Ramona schindelheim. Thanks for Thursday.

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The Kilcoyne Report  Ep. 2

Scoops with Danny Mac

48:37 min | 7 months ago

The Kilcoyne Report Ep. 2

"Anti for the KILCOYNE CONVERSATION. We're GONNA get to a number of different guests as we mentioned We launch this. We said it could be people you know people you need to know maybe somebody You already know don't know doesn't matter we're going to talk to people who are informed who are entertaining and there's a lot going on in our world we know that and we bring in right off the Bat Lewis Reed. Who IS THE PRESIDENT? Saint Louis Board of Alderman. He's held that title since two thousand and seven interesting times for people who are in public office and Lewis. We appreciate the time. How are you and your family surviving? Our Martin there are adhering to the social distancing in God you know I have a hand sanitizer and stuff at the front doors. That went back when my son to come home. They supposed to sanitize the hands on the way in way out. That's been hard to get that enforced but but other than that We're doing well And just reaching out to the public and hopefully we make it through this Strong and the spirit time in the country and give me an idea of your communications with mayor cruising on a regular basis really the responsibility of government in this time. It's I know there's a lot of people I'm sick of the government. I don't want them tell me what to do. I sense right now. Even some of those folks may have Changed their tune a little bit. You just give me an idea of right now. How important is and how big these decisions are that you guys are making either. These things are massive decisions life and death decision because if we choose to act slowly you know. There's there's no way to tell upfront You know how will impact the lives of of an individual family or you know a large group of people In the future. So you know at times like this you know I. I firmly believe we need to err on the side of caution as much as possible You know we know that there's no When I look at it I think that any of these things that are that we can delay for example People coming down to pay their property tax rights. We need to Put in place. You know a grace period of six grace period on things like that right none of these things that we normally transact on a daily basis Worth you know putting people's lives at risk our city employees that risk or our community at rest long-term. I mean we have to flatten that curb just like everybody else's attempting to do across the country where I'd say this. We need to all of us need to be looking at New York and understand that. That's our future right. And if we want to see what the future will look like and we have a perfect example right there. So what can we do? To mitigate that risk and mitigate flooding occurs from what? You're seeing happening in New York today. What would you say to people who would point out well? New York's a much bigger city. It's more densely populated For those and I. I don't think there's too much caution that could be taken at this time but you may hear from folks you say we'll come on. We'RE NOT NEW YORK. That's not realistic. Well it is realistic when you think about it certainly. New York is more much more densely populated. New York has a higher number of people. That are traveling internationally and all around the globe. Right that are congregating. They have business transactions and stuff that far exceed Saint Louis but When we're talking life and death issues. I heard Dave Matthews had a perfect graph where he said okay if someone had one hundred eminem and they say they put them all in a bowl okay. Eighty of these. There won't be any harm. Sixteen of make you sick sick but four of them will kill you and it makes them all. How many are you going to choose not gonNA eat any of why they're gonNa stay away so I think you have to approach it in that way especially if you are a city who Who were were for decision maker and other people are are waiting on you To you know inform them as to what they should do and how they should stay safe So I think you you owe it to the people to be as cautious as possible Under circumstances like this. When did you guys first year as public officials? Do you remember? Remember any conversation. You know two months ago three months ago where people said. Hey there's this thing corona virus all mayors and all cities better be aware wouldn't win. Was it first on your radar Me The time passes so quickly I WANNA say two months ago but Could be low off on that. Just because time has passed so rapidly from the time when things really started ramping up But a at that time I started calling for a for a regional approach to this and I said okay. We cannot approach this just as regular Saint Louis County St Charles County to county either regional approach to this But at that time it wasn't as you know as prevalent as it is now right So you know you know. Y- that seeing the little aggressive the time and I understandably right you're looking back. I thought you know certainly now with the new day that does not look as aggressive but back then. It was probably pushing the envelope a little bit too much to say. Okay time out. Let's have a regional process because we don't know how bad this could be How bad it's going to get right and remember back then. People across the country in the United States. We're looking at. Oh that's the China thing whether the chances of actually GonNa make it over here to America right and if indeed and makes it over here that America not going to be so widespread the point where we're sitting down businesses and we're you know we're shutting down parks and things of that nature right but now you see it happening and when you guys made the decision a little over week ago now that said we need the stay at home we need people to basically if you don't leave your house unless you absolutely have to. How is that decision reached in how much you talk to other Political leaders around the country. And how does anyone know 'cause entry it's it's sort of in a state by state approach here? How do you guys come to those decisions? Well I was really thankful that The Mayor County Executive and Steve Aluminium Charlestown executive all of them came together To create that region though you know approach to write that are just talking about. Sounds really thankful that they did that. and they began to lead and discuss how they were going to work on this thing you know and you know together right but still we saw some places where the county executive Sam Page moved a little quicker than than the city on some of these things. So we were. You know what we've been doing in the city as legislators right so the legislative branches really working with the executive branch and working to keep this keep pace with what they're doing in the county Saint Louis County in Saint Charles County Madison County. So that we can you know flatness curve reasonably and the reason that for port this because we're all feeding off the same healthcare system the whole issue of flattening. The curve is to lower the pressure on the healthcare system and keep people healthy to process right so it's important that we approach regional go ahead. Sir. Go Ahead. I'm sorry Lewis. I WanNa ask you what what about readiness We make the New York comparisons and obviously they've been overrun in terms of their hospitals and medical personnel If there is a comparison that I know the data over the weekend numbers jumped a lot for Missouri as a state. What's our level of readiness? Do you think here in terms of equipment in terms of hospitals bedding and all that. What's your understanding as to Saint Louis Cities readiness? I don't think anybody in the country is completely ready. I look at New York tons of resources going in and they're still not ready You know Saint Louis World Lady behind the curve is in terms of readiness but You know we wanNA throwing Dade right at. The beginning was to call him governor to release our the emergency stockpile of a mask and equipment. So that when you get into our our police departments and fire departments and the like right and that's been slow to right so You know I just you know as cities go. You know where we're all. I'm averaging on par with other cities but I still think that there's still much to be done across this country in terms of being truly ready for it right One of the things that we need to do immediately at City Harley. We need to close the hall. And it's like Just like Saint. Charles is Sam Page and others have done to public access right. There's just no reasonably have public access in City Hall We can delay the collection of I give grace periods on everything from tax You know from property tax and sales tax. Not You know all of these things. We can give some relief to businesses and to the residents in terms of having to go to city hall to make these Payments Right And if they can make them all if we're ready to have make it online we need to them to that right but We need to close city hall to public access. That's one of the things. That's one of the places where Louis City itself lagging behind a lot smaller than this tallies that surround Saint Louis City Sioux City Hall is open currently. Yes the open to the public and in the city and We need to that. Needs to be eliminated like yesterday right. And that's part of what Myself and others are working on this to get the administration to take the position that close city hall to the public. There's no reason that probably really truly needs to Have access to city hall. We can get the things that we absolutely have to say. There's a massive building permit or something that has to happen right You can do that by an appointment right or you can do that through. online transactions right So there are other ways we can do so many things but for the most part like ninety nine point nine nine percent of things. We have the ability to put in place grace periods so that we're not requiring the public to come down just like the motor vehicle. Get they said okay. You don't have to have your license renewed right to one of those life. Offices are sitting right and city hall offices able to close but the general stuff in City Hall. I was down there just to buy our ago. We should have. Electricity is coming in to work. And all these other things like why right Some things have to be some things he cannot do remotely. You know track you trash pick up. They can do that. Have One person to a truck right. We're GONNA do that The law enforcement fire departments. They have to stay online to stay Stay active right. But there are a lot of other services that they're just as a requirement to have them active and Downtown and have open access to the public through Lewis Reed. President Saint Louis Board of Aldermen in that position to two thousand seven. Been Real Integral Things developing redevelopment investment in Lafayette Square Washington Avenue. An advocate for our sporting venues to be upgraded. We've seen that at the Enterprise Centre the MLS coming to town and in fact You've our folks and update with that stadium site. I know they said they were able to get some work still to be done because we're talking about debut in that stadium in two years. What's is that still realistic still realistic. They they file following CDC guidelines and also Saint Louis cities guidelines also in terms of continuing work right. So if you're sick you're not coming into work if you If you They have social distancing policies and everything in place it and all of those things as going through things so they obviously aren't making the same Headway as they normally. What making us took the situation. But they are. They are continuing to move to progress and You know after the after you know the Corolla viruses behind us. They'll be able to still ramp up across this time and Across time and be able to meet the headline so they're still on track if final thought You know timing of all of this is terrible. People's lives being lost. Selfishly is a fan of things that are going on in Saint Louis especially downtown. There was a lot of momentum there. And how optimistic are you that you can kinda get that going again and it just sort of speak to? What's been a revitalization really the last five years or so yes. We had a lot of momentum going through downtown billions of dollars in new investment coming new jobs. Being traded plot of activity the restaurants and shops for were on up took. It was going really. Well I think that You know considering that this the with this pandemic hasn't just hit the city of entire country so They turn around the turn around. I think we will see a significant turnaround. Just like you know other cities as they began to ramp up right if we were the only only community that that experienced what what we're experiencing Businesses would made another choice. They would have moved to Saint Louis County Canola and things like that but With everybody having to take a hit I've been that we're going to see that activity. Come back to. They'll be slow ramp up because you know people are going to be under financial strain and things of that nature but I see us getting back to where we where we want. Swear Lewis for she at the time. I know you're an avid cyclist. I don't know if you're able to get out on your bike at all but we're all all sort of going stir crazy together. It's good to at least have some intelligent conversation so I appreciate you hopping on a great and we continue to Kilcoyne Conversation Fox sports director Martin. Kilcoyne right here on scoops with Danny Mak dot com talking to some of the Interesting folks in our city and our sports world and the battle hawks season was one of the real highlights of the twenty twenty calendar. The city was just on fire with excitement. Unfortunately the season ended after just five games but one of those popular players was the Punter Marquette king a of NFL experience on the resume and a great personality. We thought who better to recap the whole battle hawks experienced then marquette. Welcome to the show my man. How are you good? The king is here. The King is how. Ya and the king is. Somebody who enjoys people has a big personality. How are you doing in these social distancing times? Well you know. I feel like on the line for the house. So I just ended up buying these turntables from the tar center. I'm trying to learn how to this Thought about a hottest played back at home. The first game next year so. I'm just DJ for the neighbors and stuff. What was it like you know? The whole sports world sort of came to a halt at one time and you guys are waiting for an announcement. We understand the big picture. But I'm sure with the momentum. You had excitement in town. They were talking about maybe forty thousand for that next home. Game how disappointing. It was pretty disappointed. Man is also one of those situations where I've been in this situation before where Control what you can control and the only thing we could control with us just trying to get better at that moment and That's how he did. We just kept working and grinding. But when we got official confirmation that the season was GONNA be Cut Short because of the virus and It wasn't cool it off. It's because we really excited to see how many more fans came to the to the next game. Were you guys on the sidelines? At those first two I two HOMIES SANE. Man Look at this how what was the level of surprise by the players at the response like day like this is this is actually really legit. Okay looks really good. And they were just talking. A lot of players are just excited. About how many people actually showed up to the bank so and I think the most exciting part for a lot of people were just seeing. How many people were lined up outside of the arena? Ask Want especially on. The first game was crazy. And how about the brand itself we mentioned you had a long run in the NFL. Is You know what that level is like. What did you think the quality play would be like in the xfl and what did what did you think it would be like? And what was your takeaway? Well I knew it would be. I knew it was going to be very competitive. Still CONSIDER IT STILL. A Professional League and people are still hungry. Trying to get to that next level The only thing different I would say is the way they probably ran it was I felt like the NFL was a little more laid back as far as like Thomson and stuff and In practice with the XFL little more ground heart but it was. I thought I looked at it as a positive. Because it forced you to to The reason why you play the game you play and forced to find your love for the game which was just getting better at what you do but As far as the gang I mean I feel like man. The fan base is just it was just about the same as the NFL. You know And I think it made it a lot. More different is How laid back fill is as far as like just letting people just live and just beat themselves and show their personalities and stuff you know and access people loved it interviews on the sidelines personality. Encourage not oh you know the NFL. Sometimes would you call the no fun league? And you're a guy as we mentioned likes to have fun. Marquette King would be known even those rated as celebrating a good punt Was there ever any blowback on that people like dude? You're the putter. Knock IT OFF. Burt before but at the same time this way. I mean I I still made play so I would say about that really but like I said in a conversation before like a job title job description does it the timing how so much act because I mean I mean I've grown up playing receiver most Like when I started playing football I'm just used to be myself Went to ABC you man. It was I was just accepted. Man Sometimes you have some of those pairs by man you just upon it sound good so so. I've had people tell me to chill out before but at the same time it makes me. WanNa do it even more. I've been to the black hole handful of ties for Rams Games back in the day. Give me an idea being a part of freighter nation dealing with those fans. What was it like playing in Oakland for those years apart is like a the only other fan base. But the place that I've ever been to. That was kind of like a party was on Dallas Dallas more like a little circle like a big ass club but Oakland was more like a it was like a block party like it was and then you had a superfan so it was like you had different characters of super fans out there that represented the fan base so it was like a huge party. I every time we played on Sunday or Thursday night. It was so hot. And you're still young guy in you know we've had punters even back. I think mid forties. Maybe we had a guy. Mike Heron came back and kicked at one. Point for the Saint. Louis Rams What your desire level and get back and and do you think it's possible possible I've Manifested for a while I put much hard work in and Like always say I need a special teams coach just during the last date or something with man and just get a chance to not only You can't you can't Judge Bay somebody off of what you see coming business. Which is a television. And I feel like it's really important to get to know the player because at the end of the day Coach has to depend on the player to get the job done. You can't force the player to act the way you want until you have to accept. The plan is and know. He's getting job done regardless of who he is. Because I'm sure there's a lot of weird people out there that have really good jobs but no matter how the Arctic and get the job Diet and everybody has their strategy of how to get it done. So that's all I need for close to understand and once they understand that it's all good 'cause that's a lot of time Even reach out to my old coach. Don't talk about football at all. What am I love to fish? So sometimes I'll just send renting random fishing loads he's on the phone sometimes and ask them how everything going and But yeah I mean yeah I just need someone who's GonNa let me just understand from undrafted ended up a couple of Nice contracts being on an all pro team leading the NFL in gross yards per punt the next year led the NFL and punts total punts and yardage. Two thousand. Fourteen with the raiders Pretty Amazing story too. I don't know when you realize said to yourself man. I think I could play at the next level did did you think in college. Hey I could make it to the NFL. I had other people tell me by. I'm kind of always been if we're just doing whatever makes me happier just trying to be the best at what I do so I went to the King County and I was just putting a ball and like everybody knew what they were doing and they were looking at night. Do you see how good talk was? And I'm standing there like this normally. I don't know how what a good part just trying to kick it as high as far as I can and it was people. Just ask me like. Are you really serious about taking us to the next level of my I guess they what do I do it? Just kind of do what makes me happy. And whatever makes me happy. I'm just trying to be the best at Marquette Fund visit with you final thought maybe your takeaway on Saint Louis how much you knew about our town. I'm trying to think if you've been in that dome kicking before but what was. What was your saint? Louis take away from this experience. This experience I call this part of my life. The Revival Period I felt like that city. The latte from The fast some ways ma And I don't even know what I could do But I'm trying to. I'm looking at platinum. Do something for those people in Saint Louis because they have a Lotta love not just me but for the whole Organization for a lot of other players and experienced man At first before I went Saint Louis House by I guess so I I kinda question it I But at the same time Some of the eight I sought smoking patsies. My whole Mazda started to change slowly because they made some really good reps I there yeah I yeah. That's some rooms with some good chicken and man a hell of a fan base and I don't think what was the saying but I did play against around. I forgot what year it was. But we played the rams and we got what like sixty four zero or fifty nine zero something like that that that's a bit of history because we didn't have a lot of those days now de. Dome but Hey Marquette be safe appreciate your time hope to see you back there kicking next year and if you get an NFL Gig. We'll be rooting for you. From Saint Luis as well and we talk a lot about the Effect on the business world everything comes to a screeching halt essential businesses still open that includes the banking industry and we bring our good friend from Triad Bank. Jim REGNA who was the president over there. I call them the bank czar. I don't think that's an official title. Jim Welcome in in these strange times. How are you and your family and the bank? How's everybody getting along? Everyone's doing well. Martin thank you hope you and yours are doing well also it. It is interesting time. No doubt you know when you talk about the banking industry people need the banks open. What guidelines do you follow like? Who tells you guys? Here's what we're recommending you can close your lobbies etcetera. How do you get that information because easer this is all sort of you know new territory? How do you know what to do? So that's a really good question so we have Developed and about eight years ago a pandemic policy that the federal regulators make us have a policy for instances like this I never thought that this would go in fact well he wrote it kind of laughed about it. You know many years ago but we have dusted it off and we are Fully initiated are pandemic policy at the bank says quite simply closed the lobbies non-essential employs people can work from home. A fair amount. I guess and then just operate the drive through yes so. Three fourths of our staff have the ability to work from home. And then we have rotating is manning the lobby and other key functions of the bank luckily in the world of technology that we live in Online banking remote deposit. capture Mobile banking makes it a lot. Easier for our clients to do business with us there any signs and then we've always had a limited amount of transactions that we would reimburse customers for when they used what we call a Foreign Atm Nine Triad Bank ATM's and so we're reimbursing clients Make make as many withdrawals as they went from other. Atm's and we're reimbursing for that weird tool will end because you're much smarter than all these topics any of us. Do you mean idea like when the Fed say okay. We're going to lower the the federal interest rate is GONNA be down towards zero like what? What does that mean to consumers at home? How does that play out? Well it gives them all a break on what they pay an interesting that further credit cards or other variable rate interest That they pay for a while there. The long-term race were actually lower than short term rates. So it had created a A boom on the refinance market for home mortgages so it helps the consumers in terms of what they have to pay interest expense on a monthly basis depending on what type of borrowing today have the ideas in the Fed is trying their best to keep things rolling the even in horrible economic times. That's correct Martin and so it also helps businesses Reduce their overhead because they pay less interest on their business loans. Which hopefully Allows them to keep people employed and operating Top Economic Times in. You're also as we talk about it in the bigger picture but you also then in running a bank. You have employees. It's weird because you have to worry and I've talked to the people at Fox two and Ktar us about this. You have to worry about your product day but then you have your employees and their safety and health. It's sort of weird because you really are. You're juggling a number of different things at this time it really is. I mean we WANNA make sure that we're keeping our employees safe so we are constantly wiping down door handles on the entrance. Even though people coming into the bank they'll still walk up to the doors and try to open up so we're keeping those swipe down and just doing everything we can Supplying disinfected and gloves for employees to To handle cash and other interaction they have with you know. People that are non bank employees We're not obviously Frontlines of the medical Establishments but So we were less exposed that we're still taking Extreme precautions to protect our style. Well Jim I look forward to to seeing you in person at something. I love hanging in the lobby at. Try It back. My mom got her banking there. I did a refinance at Triad Bank. I've got an account there. We did my brother's estate there. And we've we've told people over the years not just a smart great business people but also just friendly staff are missing those people in there and stealing depends from the lobby at Triad Bank. Hindawi encourage everybody when things get back to normal. Stop by for now. You just go online. It's triumph banking dot COM Jim Ryan and his team taking great care of their customers in all times including these chaotic times. Right now jim great to talk to you and again maybe Cardinal Baseball here. Just we gotta be patient just before I go. There's a couple of things I'd like to add. So the part of the stimulus package that the president just signed is called the carriers act which basically will allow for businesses small businesses to borrow from the SPA through the banks. And those loans are. Forgivable is long as they don't lay anybody off so it's covering all of their variable expenses or I believe it's a two month period So I just encourage any business out. They're concerned about the loss of revenue. There are programs out there that the government is trying to assist them with so that they can easy economic impact on that so whether whether you call triad are another bank. I encourage people to investigate back to the will help them get through this difficult time In economic factors having everyone. Yeah it's a small business. Hit hardest too. So that's great news. Jim Thanks for sharing that appreciate it. We'll talk soon all right mark. Thanks take care. Appreciate Gyms Take Not just in the banking industry but really small business owners. Those are some great notes there is everybody tries to piece their lives their businesses back together. We've got great sponsors. Who have been part of this. Since the early days of the hockey coverage with pox with Bernie and panger hanging with big walled. We mentioned. Try It bank. Awesome redevelop senior living. They're doing a lot of great things out there. 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Her mother you know she got heart issues here and there so me and my daughter. Brandy works. Nooks HERE ARNOLD. Track in our social distancing wiping down the handle the cards. You're checking out a day. My daughter my credit card hunting. I sit on buying all your groceries to because my middle daughter brandy she is. She's the best she'll she does some errands in this case. Social Media. Remember doing everything really today as we can and So are leaving smokes right now. Practicing social distancing is difficult for a lot of folks. I would think especially for Kenny Wallace. You're a people person you're a high five or you're a hugger. It's you know. Last week we were talking to Darren Pang the blues announcer and he said you know. This is a game changer for me because I'm always hand pound in hugging in a real emotional guy and I think it's harder for people like that during this time you know what I tell you how it works in my brain so I cuss a lot. I say the F. Word I mean constant customers but you know the fifteen years that I worked for Fox you know people would say to me on the streets. They go after they get done. Virtually with me I just cut so much right so they say to make. How do you not cuss on TV? And I'm like Oh that's simple. I said if you cuss on TV you're fired. They fire you right away. Oh yes apologize so you just you cannot cuss on TV for. That's the way I doing the social you. Can I know my cough face for? I know that I'm not sterilizing things. I'M GONNA GET SICK. So it's the real deal and you know man you just here. I mentioned it to people go and I go. Hey man every time shaking your hand. So that's this is no joke. You know so it's really easy on me Do NOT SHAKE HANDS. And you'll because this is a real serious south they're like. Oh my God it's Kim Extend Your Lane. No no stay in that Doma. Didn't we blame your mom for the swearing in your mom? Get pissed at us because we were. You swore lot because of mom my mom she the love of my life but when I grew up in Arnold I mean my whole family got also. I never knew what to ask and anything when you grew up with the okay and then you know you get furthering alive and we moved to Charlotte North Carolina. And I'll never forget it. I was at a McDonald's just talking about I'm I'm down in Charlotte about two months. Okay into my new career in your life and I'm at a McDonald's and I'm just talking to one of my members and also I feel tap on my shoulder just big man cowboy guys watch your mouth. I got my daughter with me and it made me feel horrible because I'm not I'm not I'M A. I'm a good person so I never socialize with cussing as being bad I you know and I still. Don't you know if you've caused it doesn't mean you're better than me? Which crazy about cussing is. I've noticed that everybody is cussing right now. I just showed the video of this doctor and guys high guy. He's were coming out of his now left and I'm like you know there's some about troves brain out real people. You know everybody like okay. We're going being perfect and polite. This unreal you know so I notice. Cussing has picked up an anything goes. Nobody is shit right now. I think that's that's the honest answer. We're not on TV and radio. I guess we can say that. What about what about the erasing? You enjoy that. I Know Fox's and Fox one is trying to do a lot of you know video racing just trying to keep it as fun or unique as they can. I just really think violence in it. I mean I I you know listen. I love the yet part of wrestling. I notice it incredibly athletic sports. I know that in wrestling do those Those people are very athletic and they are really good but there's an old thing. Wrestling is a lot better when you start drinking and even hey. I really sell often. I could never figure out what they meant by that. Well that's like either. I seen right now except for one thing. It really is real. It's just on video so when you wrap it's not real when you wreck in erasing online racing you know Although it showing little brief real talent of gaining but you're not paying the cops Clinton's wreck in real NASCAR racing might get you might be in the hospital so but still it is really really good coming off on s mid West. We're GONNA put. All the cardinal players online twitched right. We we might watch because we know all right so the form of entertainment. It's been really good. You know all of our Boxes Fox worked for many more call because they've done an incredible job of putting on national. Tv National Media. Mock Nineteen Zero Fox wants At that's one. They put it onto a million people so it had success again yesterday. So I think it's just something that you have to buy. That's my pick for those tuning in just tuning in. Kenya has not been taken hostage. He's actually he's moving around. He's leaving the Chinooks. This is Kenny out among the few people that are out. But this is Kenny wrapping up his shopping trip. I wanted to a segment With more of our gas regularly. Why'd you say the last time and then they have to say when it was so? Let's start this with you. The last time you had a bud light well you know what story inside itself. I you know my my seven law. Justin lomb brought me one in the shop about two days ago and it just didn't go down the you know my daughter. Brandy says it writes in fact the grocery store just makes me feel sick to my stomach a lot of anxiety so I applaud the bud. Light and yet. Didn't go down and good as it normally did so But the last time I tied one on was right. Around March fourth or at the awards a ceremony regretted Illinois for the Tri City speedway surround March fourth march. Six I- i- tied one on the last one. The last time your wife Kim said get off twitter. Can he put the phone down your office? Attractions way. More mature the he. Suddenly she likes me on social media. Because I went on strike before. I've said you know what I feel guilty of all this stuff too much and I have been taken to off and she goes. Would you come back on all your friends? Fans are on means you get back on. You don't mean any harm you know. Play hard to get a little bit different than that she. She's probably thinking. Well either he's GonNa Yam Roll Day in my ear or you can go off talking to leave me. Leave me the hell alone. That's probably part of. It is the last time you talked a little e Dale earnhardt junior. Oh well you know honestly when we did that. They'll junior podcast. Which really boosted my career. When was that in November last year when I was him personally with him when I was able to give him a hug that was November. Bless your course. We truly text about every week He he's the type of person where he sees so many people that not Jewish texts. So we'll catch back in towards last time that Rusty said to you candy. What the Hell you doing whether it was something you said or tweeted inc. Does rusty play the Big Brother Role? Sometimes still yeah he doesn't I appreciate it I would say the last time did the last time. He said the kind of jumped on up early last year was his daughter. Katie getting there you and I told him I said brother. Listen I'M GONNA spend a lot of money on I'm GonNa send my whole family to Kabul but I just got them signing a contract to do an appearance for good amount of money I ca. I can't go then. He was like what the hell did. You gotta cancel that I I finally I love Katy with my life. The only cancel a big pain contact leading and it made me feel all jumped on and then Kennywood SAY TO RUSTY. What if it was reversed new big contract? Yeah well much broader I do. Love my whole Fam- truly do. But unless he was guilty of giving us like four months warning for the wedding they don't like it was like the wedding here and I'm like what I've already signed this stuff you know so I did. I did send my whole family and it cost half when I was talking out ahead last. He did the dishes. What's your what's your domestic role. These days I'll tell you what I don't do. This is but I can't do dishes so You know I told you I don't I don't do them but I can do them when a cop don't thank me 'cause I'll embarrass you. Make me don't they. Don't don't threaten me because I'll make you look do sanitation that the last time you had a miserable day we use it all man. Life Sucks. Because I haven't heard in the last three and a half years we've been doing segments man. I tell you what honestly am serious when I say this. I have to say when I was down in the middle of my career in Charlotte North Carolina with. I was when I was in my prime here. I always say just about competition you. There's there's a minimal price to pay to compete because we know if you gotta dot given town like an out of the pool here like what's what's the what's wrong with everybody. You know you just that good but for people like me which I'm an overachiever. I Right the middle my career. I would say in the late nineties. I mean every an here and I would never want to go to dinner. I think that's why off a couple of years. I've been happy because I never wanna be that miserable in In there just price to pay to be good at anything and you gotTa Really Balance Your Life. That's Kenny Wallace. Checking in with us From the NASCAR royal family here in town the Wallace family loyal viewer of Fox too. I love the immediate feedback. And I gotTa tell you now. More than ever people are watching. Tv because people are home. I gotTA I gotTA START IRON. My shirts and wearing a better tie because it's unbelievable. Every time we do a segment or put somebody on how many people actually tune in. But I think that's part of our collective greater St. Louis Community. We're GONNA get through it together. I look forward to seeing you at a cardinal game whether it's a month two months three months whatever we will meet up and We'll have a little toast Roy. No kidding I I need us in a great life. I can't wait to see the cardinals lose egg piece. I'm Michael told me I'd love to see the car in real right now. Let's get back to and I want to say one thing. Before I preach positivity but Martin I mean a lot of my heart. You're Kale on Channel. Two at night. I love this you. Should you know people complain the Paxton Baseball's boring the in a Lug? What you said. Last night he knows roaring no baseball in I urge you plead Req- to keep it positive on your Tko. Because you have a good voice for the for the city of Saint Louis and Eleanor. You know channel. Two's those pretty hard up by so keep keep bringing us the positive I because you know. That's why. I responded on twitter last night. 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Ep 183: Iconic Hairstylist Guido Palau's First Podcast Ever!

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Ep 183: Iconic Hairstylist Guido Palau's First Podcast Ever!

"Hey It's Jessica surprised you there Eh. That's right we're recording fat Mascara. Yes it's it's very cold today here in New York. This is like the first day of the cold snap. Don't I get to introduce myself before we talk about the weather other. Oh you didn't see your Jan no jen. Hey with high So listen we've got a lot of fun things to talk about. I'm so excited about the show and you will understand in just a few moments. We assessment juicy topics to get very topical. Let's talk about VISCO girls. I mean I'm still trying to wrap my head around what they are. I will temped to talk to you about them. Not Sound like my mother because I feel like I've turned into a mom the minute this whole trend came about this summer. Just okay Are they killing makeup sales though. Oh that's an interesting beauty angle to the whole visco girl thing and lastly Jacqueline Hill trying again with her makeup line. Who's our gas now? We have had some legendary Duri hairstylists on the show but somebody who is at the top top top of the pile. Okay like I mean there. I'll makes it sound less glamorous glamorous but yes top of the heap worse of the hill. Okay they're really only a few names in one of them without out a doubt is Guido Guido Palo he is the global creative director for Redken but for far longer he's been a legend in the industry he basically we created the grunge luck in terms of hair and you know beauty He has worked with every major designer. And he is somebody who honestly doesn't hop on the Mike every day so we earlier so Hashtag left to have Guido in the stewed. We've been working on getting this interview for you guys for Awhile. We hope you enjoy water break. Having a moment with our friends friends from circle. Okay Circle is something I needed in my life. Remember how I said for new years I was going to drink more and be more hydrated have seen. You're going to the bathroom more. 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I think a lot of people might know this term but I'm not less shrine at straightaway the SCO the APP VISCO is not just about filters yes. You can put a lovely wash on things. They look like from Simpler Times. Like seventy sort of like film you. You know very analog but it's also how you share photos way there's less pressure they think than instagram. You can share photos on a visco sort of tumbler but the newer version of it. It's okay fine so out of this came a cultural trend Of the VISCO girl who is half making fun but half proud of it. A lot of the girls are like I'm a VISCO girl. And there's these weird accoutrements that come along with being visco girl in the way of any young team trend right so what do you have to use visco to be a VISCO girl. No and what's funny is like a lot of people who I would look at them and I'd look at so first of all my my friend. I amy her daughter's twelve so she's who keeps me cool on all these things and I would look at. Maybe some of her friends or her and be like that VISCO girl but these girls who'd be like I'm not a VISCO girl. Let me tell you about some of the coupons and then we'll get into it okay. The big one is the hydro flask. Okay like a water bottle. Yes because the the trend of this girl's like she's very environmentally friendly. So she's like save the turtles or they actually say that kind of I don't dance smocking. I don't like them no no. I don't think they're too. They're just like all natural girls who love being at the beach drinking their water from this thing with the Metal Straw. They've got like eight scrunches on their arm. Big oversized t shirt or chew signaling through the water a little bit but honestly I was looking at all like the girls that are like this. I'm like that's all the stuff that I wore in the nineties. It doesn't look big. oversized shirt like some vans. Ends are very nineties The love Mary Badescu Rose Water Spray. For some reason the twelve dollar rose water sprite or the fragrance is it is kind of like an under state everything feels well maybe not the scrunches. But there's something very casual about everything this feels very California Very Kelly casual casual and anti consumerism. which I think is hilarious because of all random things like the fuel raven backpack? Oh you gotta say that Brand Name. I didn't know that was like take that. No disrespect to this brand but like I remember seeing those when I was younger and they were at the end they were not cool. I thought that they were for like tourists. Like Jan sport goes in and out of fashion fashions. Part was cool right but then it wasn't for a while and then it was again and now it's you know how teams are fickle. But like this all this basically it just seems to me just is it like. It's a little bit basic. It's basically a little bit so why so why did to retire basic and we went into visco girl you know. I think it's just that the minute things reach a point where they're named or someone gave it a name. Then every freaking media outlet news channel jumps on it and the minute a mom. Tom Is explaining on television to the world. VISCO girl is I bet you. Every girl who's like twelve to fifteen and falls into the categories like throw their scrunching. Go girl. Yeah yeah the second thing but the reason we wanted about it was the beauty thing besides the fact that they love Mario Badescu rose water spray. We read this article That perhaps the reason color cosmetics sales are down is because of the VISCO. Yes so color cosmetics. I think we've talked about this in the show if not we certainly will car. Cosmetics Knicks are really way down. Remember like just a year or two ago I thought there were so up. It was like all of the brands coming out from like direct to consumer heavy heavy pigment very like instagram Elon's but now the aesthetic has clearly swung the other way so fortune magazine wrote how visco girls are killing killing makeup sales and reshaping the beauty industry. It's an interesting article will put it on our site but You know they're twenty one percent down crease in cosmetic nick my word but I like it down. I meant decreased But teens are spending like a v less than they did last year. which just significant? I think it's this kind of it's funny. I hadn't heard this brought up like immediately if this girl's like the glossy aesthetic. Yeah we actually see. That's what's funny the VISCO girl does love glossy. Yeah I think it's that that it's maybe it's just the pendulum swing the other way. After like years of you gone gone tour. I am not ready to say the color cosmetics sales are down because of visco girls. It's just that like this makes a nice trend that day. Sort sort of re rose to In cultural renowned right around the time color cosmetics sales are down but what I think we're seeing is a backlash to the instagram drag aesthetic. That was big for a couple of years and they're still men and women who love that look not everybody is doing the no makeup makeup. Look but the thing that makes me laugh the hardest about this other supposed to be anti consumerism and into the environment environment but they are still buying products with brand names just like anybody else. I don't buy maybe I'm really cynical. I think I am. I don't buy that. This has anything to do with ethics like core like tried to change the world. I think it's it's still. It's like you're fifteen years old like you want Nike's or whatever the hell out now is maybe what's funny to the brands that were named as the this type of teenage girl who really does move the dial on the trends of the culture war were Besides the Mario Badescu in the glossy they also mentioned tart which I thought was interesting because to me. That doesn't play into that aesthetic other than maybe the marine tartlets heavy color. But yes. Yes maybe the Marina They do kind of like Like St Charles. Yeah aquamarine there's like a coral thing one time but but anyway. I'm not ready to say that color. Cosmetics sales are down because of a small pop group of the population of twelve. Sixteen year. Old Girls I don't it's my this is is my last word on it and it's kind of funny because this is what the whole fashion industry is all about in the beauty industry but it's this it. It's almost a little bit like grunge or war Ito any trend. That's like I care but I don't care but there's so much thought behind this zely what it is right. It is why it's annoying but it's annoying to us as adult women but as a teenage girl lake that she thinks that she discovered all of these brands for the first time and saving saving the turtles and wearing a scrunchy has never been done before. And like I feel like that's how you experiment when you're young woman and trying to find your place in the world you try on these personas and I think this is like one of those personas. I don't think it's moving the dial on frigging color. Cosmetics sales across the whole country. Come on I mean either so from visco girls. Let's go all the way to the other side of the dial two Jacqueline Hill who frankly is representative that group that we were talking about that maybe has been pushed aside a little bit the instagram drag hover heavy governor. She'd wanted to be called drag. But the of I get what you're saying Nixon fired theater and drag me guess And we had her on the podcast episode. One seventeen that was last summer it was like in July. My Gosh Yeah Yeah and so. It was really like short shorts. That's how I remember. It was like warm out yes. She was in Buffalo Platt on my short shorts. We didn't talk at that time. She did not have a makeup lines. WHO's working with Becca that time she had since then launched a makeup line which which in crazy viral fashion became like it just failed miserably so there were people reported getting their packages from Jacqueline Hill? All and they would close up on the lipstick and it looked like you dropped it on the floor because it had all kinds of little weird fibers neighbors lake just a little nasty bits on it and people oh really took rather than cost customer service. That's not what you wanted. They put on social media and just blasted her and and she was guys. She was cancelled to her credit. She also cancelled the line. She she did a recall. They refunded a lot of money. She pulls it back every I respect that because maybe she didn't you know she didn't know what she was putting out a sample. But you don't know when it's mass produced it's going to be up to the quality that you you expect But I'm like this girl's got balls. She's like Lemme Trigano. I like that. I like the tenacity. I like that she. You know it wasn't like just didn't just run and hide But also I kind of question like a lot of these these lines and I don't know how many were color ones we're gonna see because of color. This one's coming out the relaunches. I believe November. Twenty six just to give you A. It's a bold move but there so many brands that are just rushing to market. I mean and you and I talk about this all the time. We have so many random like personality base cosmetic brands that show up to our beauty closets and they don't look like they've been thought through like I don't. It's this fast cycle. We've seen what it's done to fashion. You know it's it created shit tunnel waste. Excuse me Low quality items. Just so people can scratch that edge and I'm seeing the same thing with cosmetic. Excuse me didn't wasn't Belinda. who works at a lorry? Al Who was telling us when L'OREAL test the product it has to go through the drop test it has to go through the freezing to heat like like stability issues like the shortest that we like mine right while she was I forget what the number was the shortest. She could get a product out was much longer than I think. Some of these direct to consumer brands that don't have to worry about retailers and all that and obviously Jacqueline Realize shed a little bit more work to do on her lie. So I'm impressed. Truth her for relaunching and I'm so curious to see if it's too late. She missed the like you know. Her time has passed and she would have made a lot of sales of quality. You know before you're she's also had a bit of a Social Media Hiatus in the meantime which if you want to hear about her social media hiatus is and why that might be. You should listen to episode one seven young. She gets really really frank about how it affected her relationship. Her marriage. Frankly is hard agenda. It's hard out there for an influence. You know what I'm saying I'm Kinda rooting for her. I have to say too. I love a comeback. I love that she owned up to what was wrong with the line and I hope to God this one has not fuzzy. Bits on people people get out the magnifying glass. So I'm sure she did her homework. I hope she did her time. Good Luck Jacqueline. Time for some sponsor. Love Okay Jen jess here. So so you guys know with the most important anti-aging tip is right. Where sunscreen simple so ran has a great one? I am crazy about thir new clean. SCREEN MINERAL SPF thirty. Magnifying sunscreen broad spectrum. 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No credit card required by going to this address acuity scheduling dot COM com slash fat Mascara and you spell acuity like this ac you it y scheduling all one word DOT COM backslash fatma-zohra. Okay guys we gotTA. We snatched him. Guido is here. I'm so excited right Ed. We have wanted to on the show for such a long time. you know I'm I'm calling you Guido Guido Palo but I just your one share Madonna Guido Baker. He is redken global creative director but bigger than that he is a hair legend. You know basically started grunge work with every every big designer. You can name of Taga free photographer like this is this. Is Creme de la Creme A.. Plus List Gug we'd welcome Doctrine you like that. Yeah update also the share Madonna reference. It's his first podcast. You've never ever been on. I love that like I have to be like a little self congratulatory. A you don't do a lot of interviews. You come to New York like if you live in New York but you do like the press thing like two days out of the year if that right yeah no no not your I do a lot of interviews and then get backstage age. Were all frightened to talk to you. Because you've got a million people in your ear and you also have to create a sculpture for Marc Jacobs But it's Ed very excited to have you here but I gotta go back to the beginning. Why did you want to become a hairdresser? It was I pretty good at it but but it wasn't something I kind of like. I wasn't like a little boy in sort of this. Might Small town in in the south of England Brushing does it wasn't in my. I didn't really think about I. There was an inkling of like interesting in the way people looked. I was interested in style but but I didn't know back. Then that's what it walls to mean whereas whoring over vogue no I. Would you know I was intrigued. You knows a very different time is like you know early Seventies. I mean I you know I wouldn't sixty two so when I saw it. Look people twelve thirteen. I knew there was something I was attract to like David Bowie. I was attracted to so so popular. Coacher I that name was neurone then but you know it was sort of so aware of sort of visual things you know is a very different time. You want to bombard it by things you know in and you didn't or unaware of how the fashion industry would I mean the fashion just a very different thing than that it was still kind of in its infancy embassy. But it's sort of growing up in small seaside town You know it was a town that people used to come to on holiday weekends from London. I and and young people and they seem more stylish more sophisticated. I was attracted to it. But I didn't really know that that would be you know his formulating myself kind of thing. I was So a regular high school and I really didn't do well I I didn't fit in. I was the kind of you know. The oddball Dune Amine. And I didn't I couldn't sort of like Finn and I ended up not going to school a lot and so hence I fell. I wouldn't really do very much. You know I didn't really have a great day projection for myself and no did might. My Dad did neither. You know I think at least yeah you know. I think I was the least likely to and I still feel today skipping ahead when I hear How hard it is especially in America? Kids trying to get into school in colleges and the pressure to succeed in an academic World Phil Phil. That's like something I mean. Back in the seventies in England. It wasn't that if he didn't fit into a mode you didn't it didn't work and I didn't fit into any of those molds and there was no teachers all sort of adults to guide me so add crappy about it. You're just like oh I don't want yeah I did feel. I didn't know how I feel and I see he was dealing with my kind of of sexuality number young as not being able to express myself in that way either in that time I mean so there are lots of things going on inside of me that I couldn't really get out and I didn't really know how I was going to you know. Go on this but you think that that it's funny. I'm thinking about another podcast. I listen to The author Brett East Analysis. He always asks his guess. What were you like in high school? And what was the moment like. What made you a creative? Because he is he feels that. There's like a thread like a through line with all very successful successful creative people that there was a moment of hardship or a period of hardship was out your period of hardship. I think it was and I think it was like you know I was so of uncreative in my head. I think I went into my head a lot and I created this world in a way to escape. I mean this an I. It wasn't terrible. I Ah I did live in my head you know and I think later on in life I created my head Jimmy like a way of how I began on creating but going back. Hairdressing wasn't something I was like is almost thing I wanted to get away with because I didn't really want to identify with you know because it felt like effeminate mentioned addresses his going through a weird kind of you know here it myself remain anyway to move fast forward also sixteen seventeen. I'd left school. I did not need grades. I didn't have anything. I traveled around when to Europe and I was hitchhiking and doing odd jobs jobs. And you know one of the goes I met was a headdress when I might could do identity nowhere else to do. I moved back to England and apply I to be douse as soon for an apprenticeship in England you don't go to beauty school you go to Ceylon and you kind of urine assistant the three years and in the evenings you do night classes and learn how we do that anyway. I didn't get on very well. They're even up the ascetic suits. I didn't didn't sort of like Meld. Well with the sort of light that training in the way was his very rigid. And you doing your own thing while I was Getting in trouble or anything was playing rhinos. A little bit older you normally go starts with beauty scoot sixteen or something and I was twenty by estate. I'd done that bit of traveling so I was a little bit older and probably like insecure in mouthy and saying the wrong thing you know I was still sort of like did you last all three years. No I didn't I lasted for about eighteen months. They're left there or got fired and you know they. It was funny because later on when Mr Sassoon did he didn't but later on he came to find my work and I interviewed him and he interviewed me for a maglev. Ver- AVI magazine article. And how you know even in that Short period how soon really formulated a love my ascetics and it was very interesting and and He and feeling I got fired and he so I heard you did and you know it's funny. We became not friends but he was. You know I was a huge mirror. What he did in the sixties and he became a huge mom? I was safe. Flattering the you know. That happened in the legend I got fired. By Sassoon's I went to another salon in London and it was there when I was working in another Salam. The young girl was going out To do a Ajab on a small magazine a weekly magazine and I carried back in the when I talk much about it And it was that that I've really sort of felt at home in the studio with other creative people and fell I could really. I mean I didn't know it that not day but I felt it was very Fr- an environment. I could work being onsang and seeing the creative process so creating characters and beauty and Obama and so I very very much sort of went back. You know quickly. Let the Ceylon away and found an agent you know and then side my journey and so when do you think you arrived at that moment when you're like wow interviewing Mr Sassoon. He's interviewing me or was there a particular project you worked on like. Okay I can make a living of this. I'm doing okay funny enough you know yes. There have been great moments in my career. But you know I think even to this day I feel like have I arrived if I may dis still never I never feel. I didn't if you're a crate may be you you. You never filled that you've really arrived at this. Being some great moments I take to law of the boxes all the boxes. I won't do in my cry. Never thought it would take me to where it's taken but still every day. I'm insecure about my work. What I do so yes this? been seminal moments in my career that I've really like I wild. That was amazing but it never like. Oh it's amazing. That's I'm fine. I'm Donna I'm sort of at this level is not gonna go. I always feel maybe being you know. in a business that is of like always looking for the next new thing I know I never lost. His point is always bought. The next new everything You mentioned the fashion world when you were like a young kid. How it was very you know we didn't we didn't have the exposure that we have today? which just like you know everyone? Everyone's fashion adjacent sea than they know. Exactly how it works. How do you when you look at? How fashion world has changed? What do you feel inside? You know when I started you know in the early eighties in the fashion business. It was the beginning of like street. Style how street stopping reported on people being into magazine I d the face in England needs to St Staus of magazines And you know all kind of like a club coach being reported on it was really exciting. Time in the fashion industry picking up a no LABATT. I mean it was a small industry. It was like it was probably like a back. Then it fell more grand priva- instead of like you didn't know what was behind. The big doors of folk house is like a cathedral to fashion in a way now does is we all know is you can read about his exposed. Everybody knows about it. I mean you can't say that was a time. This is a different time to the industry's changed law and IT'S A. It's a huge business when I started in the business I didn't know it was a business. I just thought it was a creative thing. You know you didn't hear about the comments of the industry but hadn't really started to sort of show itself and then it became commerce homage. You realize you're selling bags and you know you is a pop a commercial industry back then. It felt like you were part of like in a sect of Soda Crate People. Where does the money come from for this photo shoot? We don't know we're making that the new film led to be created because you're not talking about the budget or what you're trying to sell you. Ashby creative in the course of your career. You mentioned seminal moments is there. Are there any come to mind or collaborators that you worked with that really stand out and just this was when I did some of my greatest work with these people. I think the first collaborate that really standup as David Sims and He he told me you know I I feel I had so many break teaches David Sims photographer. Yes he's talk and he who is very sort of a big talk for the kind of him in another English folk who current day with two photography kind of broke ground in the early nineties. Nine ts with the soda. GRUNGE movement which was a sort of a music lead Fashion cutting movement that broke down the idea of beauty. And what was kind of you know before that were in the soup muddier late eighties Nova and then this new movement come along very much was happening now. A gain inamine fashion and kind of broke people's idea what was beautiful the full who was beautiful. What was beauty? Amine is hard to to look at it now but kate. Moss was the pin-up of that era. And then then she seemed alternative. An Edgeley Edgy. And sort of not the classic beauty now we know her as isil icon ick famous model back then. She was like this young. Go from a suburban town. That was the so. You know the the so three sixty of a supermodel and was David just the the photographer of this moment. Is he the one that was. Capturing a lot of those Graham Kgo could car in day With the two to leading the way and from that movement we all got picked up by bigger brands and it was the sort of vehicle that kind of propelled as was into like spotlights. It's usually like camaraderie with Kate and David and Karen because it was like. Wow like the stuff that we're doing kind of on our owner at a small scale is now being recognized by the mainstream. Yeah no certainly you felt you were like in this. Like kind of Edgy Ban. That he yeah. I want to be in that band that by Nino and we've been cooled by these huge brands. Like Calvin Klein was flying to America. And you know it was a liar refer. CK is was he came one at. And you know the mock chemo pitches and all that kind of thing but we will brought this up like we were working in a very independent way lane London and then we were all kind of transported to neo. Consider celebrated Janine and David I spoke to now yeah. Yeah I'm I'm I'm his Godfather. There and we still collaborate not so much together. But we're still you know he's my best friend and Yeah yeah he I mean he was the first person that kind of in a you need people to encourage you to see things and he was someone they made me read. Look up beauty. I was still kind of looking at sort of American Glam kind of thing and he seemed to look fashion and beauty in a a different way. Nuts what he was doing in his pitches and so we kind of created this new idea of beauty. which was you know the beginning of my kind of you know Asab success so wet look has been the most personal to you? Were what project would you say. It was back then with your buddies in the early nineties. Or if there've been something sense that you know has a very big place you I mean I think you know when you're sort of like you know nip beginning of your career and you'd could you much more unfilled to new. Don't know what's going on us and they when you look back. They always. It always feels so special than in how he created. Pitches is and crated has dolls. And how you you know research diaper thing you had. There was a lot more time than the industry was working at a slower pace and and some of the stories we were on for magazines would take ten days. You know we'd like God re-shoots things and all you know you know not ad campaign with B four days in a day would be spent with myself in the make applause working out the look you know. It was a much different time informing the deeper relationships. And so finally we just the other day and it was like. It's five fifty five. I'm turning autumn unplugging the lab we have to to to hustle. Aw Yeah no it was like eight ten is can rent my head around. That three days is crazy So you know. Is that different than it feels special you look back. What's funny now? I go to and what would design is and they've got these images and the mood boards of light you know and it's like wow but that was a very every year images but they didn't realize is what of the projects that you've done or the look of you done. Do you keep seeing on other people's version of it was so funny. I I mean a lot of that. Ninety s peerage which was went from the grunge kind of period than it went into a sort of a minimal kind of thing when so the minimal signs that helmet Langen Joe. Sonda Donda became very popular in the mid nineties and at this period. Now that sort of look is being kind of looked upon us or you who knows being reference to gain in USA to see sort of the ads and sort of this sort of added Torres. We did than so. It's very nice to stink up. I've been in the industry. Does it ever bore you though I. You've had so many references throughout the years you've created looks that became references for other people. Are you like Here we go again. Ah where am I going to find something new and fresh or you always being inspired by new things. I've Moore's trying to push my own ideas and visions and I liked to sort of like You know startled myself still soco. IS THAT BEAUTIFUL IS I. What is that you do that? You just like go out there and just let me the craziest thing I can and we'll see if we look at looks good I I mean I think I got now. I didn't have back then but I have. You know more culture references a things. I know how to play off things and I'm so more aware things are not saying it makes my work better it so 'cause I think sometimes the innocence of when you're working is is really kind of what it kind of makes it so. Oh Special Jimmy. Not Knowing so sammy things I think now I know a lot of things. I know the industry so well and and to make something Phil startling now always law hard and just in the world we live in way images a perceived. It's harder to make reaction than it was back then so it's not soon. Yeah it'd be hard to surprise you know it's funny when you look at your hair like that. Am I realized that you you know have been versatile and you are versatile hairstylist but in the nineties it's very minimalist kind of grungy hair there and looking at your work it gets very sculptural it gets very The word is not cartoonish but like it gets sculptural if we need to do something very abstract. You're the guy is it because you're just looking for your pushing yourself in that direction like. I don't WANNA go naturalistic. I need to go. Yeah I mean I always playing against contradiction. What may be people think known for gene so I might do something extremely sculpt a naive and did book not so long ago with David is look it looks retouched because I felt that that's how people are looking at things in a very retouched unreal way so I wanted to make the Hatfill Unreal Seinfeld? It was like the best word unreal. Yeah yeah so I wanted to make it feel like doc an is it. Was it something from the future or is it something from the past and why is it so perfected so I just wanted to be A. I always want beauty to be questionable. Gentlemen hours won the Buick to look at it and with some questioning point and not just go. That's nice. I'm not sure if they love it like they like that noise or is that is that a nice texture or pretty. You'd be insulted. Yeah well because we know what Nice and pretty is I think for me. It's always been about questioning tastes in questioning the viewer to challenge their idea therapeut- he's always been something that's been might the button to go to you now. Iowa's want someone to look and go. Is that beautiful isn't it. Is that go. Beautiful Beautiful What is 'cause that's why I'm attracted to? When I was growing up in those years in London I'd go to nightclubs and be like extreme in people and they were like they were like exotic to me but they were just like suburban goes in boys making themselves up into these characters but you? I didn't know uh-huh them so when I just looked at them I was like looking in them with like questioning and they'd be like they would like these amazing kind of people to me. And that's what I didn't I wasn't attracted to like Like Marilyn Monroe and like you know glamorous architects architect dilemma. It didn't it didn't push anything for me. It was always like the sort of alternative beauty that I was attracted to so in my work even now I do. Many things is always that kind of questionable edge like and it can be a small thing that rocks my world like is the texture extre right or is that purposely bad it herbs the mad that you see that is that Cup to shore or is it right suicide. What makes it has been? That's really important to me. And I trying get that in the work even if it is glamorous like a while back I I did a show with Kaya cobb and I made a huge Valentina ballinger. Yeah but it was like so big it becomes a little bit perverse. Yeah so big is like is that too big. Yeah you know what I mean or is it the but there's been no point doing okay. Hey big yeah make Seca get somebody else to do it but if you can do it big. The new Muslim Neko there. Let's go that to mean so even even in its glamour. I tried to make a little bit like So you mentioned the Valentino. Show you do. Marc Jacobs all the time of of and everyone is always got her is not show. You do you really are like the the guy for you know for Ria for runway of how the Hell so you keep your energy up because you hit New York. You hit powerless. You hit Milan of the browser London to you had just got back from China yesterday did this show him. About and Tina Samantha. Silver faces were amazing power play. I said we decide to go into certain airline. It was like you're on the plane of forty four hours there and back as I realize we just been on a plane circled the world. Yeah basically I suppose I still really enjoy the creative process. Juna mean I really really enjoy. Why do I reading joy collaborate and people like pat or Stephen Mizao all these great people that a I'll still unlucky? The people I work with US still very passionate about what they do and really get off on. Whether it's just as the enjoy you know we still enjoy the process of working with a modeling creating them in creating a fantasy see and I think I'm very lucky to be around very creative people. I you know to work with pat every day you know is is amazing. Because she's amazing what she does and with both British and so we have the same kind of references is and we come from similar kind of backgrounds and so he's you know this is sort of like we get each other to mean and then I to admire how far she's taken her craw demean uneven every day the silver faces that amazing. Yeah it could be so wrong. But then they're so right and I think you know she's probably anyone can do pull that off. Yeah what about like bringing new blood into into the mix like. Are there people that you haven't worked with yet that you want to or do you ever worry that you're comfortable in your bubble of your people that you like. Is there someone you'd want to work with that you. I haven't had a chance to. I am always listen. You know I don't think the fashion industry stops and ends with people like you know in my era wiped on when I look young people that doing that way and there's a whole new wave of new headdresses makeup partisan photographers and designers. That a doing the thing and they're really doing in their way and they could own. I couldn't do it in that way because they're doing in their way way now. What about designers? Are there any young designers. You're like oh I want to do their show. Yes there is but if I WANNA do is because I like it and then that probably probably doing good already. Do you know what I mean so I feel like I probably wouldn't be able to do it as good as them because I yeah somewhere like say the eighteen at back cry but I lit the eighty so to me it slightly a pastiche era yet. But they think it's still they think is kind of fresh because exists. Girls Talk if you were once the first time. You don't get to go around in a different way when I do due eighties way. I kind of know it because I was there. Yeah if you're twenty five you have a fresh take on it because you weren then you see in a different way so you can never look. I never WANNA look jumping lighted it better that you know because you're doing in a fresh tate the same way in the nineties you were probably doing the seven. Yeah it was redone yes exactly And so have you ever thought about moving beyond hair. Have you ever worked with any other art forms arms or is there anywhere you want to expand your art to. I always feel like you'd be a sculpture on the side. Golden fine artist I view exhibitions at the met. Just you know you know they do the cost me out for me. Oh you did the hair for the McQueen. Exhibitor Would McLean Upon One and I did a skop already proud to one and that one was great. Yeah and I I I. She didn't use hair in two of them. Eighty to work with different inform. They'll cool McQueen when there was no hair. Didn't look like so. What was that so I kind of what with mosques? I said what with Alexander McQueen a lot so I kind of knew you his kind of take him beauty and I didn't really feel the I could do it justice the exhibition with has so I kind of what with different kind of have people to create leather and fetish in. It wasn't one hem asking it but it was you know had like a Of Spike coming out the tall and then themselves different. You know there were kind of. They were all kind of Wehrley fetches she someone beautiful summer little bit sort of like macabre but they were they felt they would come post his ascetic of abuse but valley. It'd be better to do in different things so so I use my ascetic Mike kind of balancing but then would work with people that Croft it so you know to. To your point I did work with a different medium And a custom reading joined the pros and it was really nice working with you. Know Commu Ziam all the different people that go into making that thing work you know. It was a challenge and it was It's difficult because you're you're working working with one hundred twenty kind of mannequins knew there were different rooms and you don't get to see it till it's put on so it's trial and error kind of thing you have to kind of design nine it and keep going for meetings and there's different kinds of you know you sat in a room. I you know when you have to pinch him to sign a room with Andrew Bolton. Who's the kind of Chris? In person behind these exhibitions and the head of the exhibition and and a winter and all these different people the voices his in getting that thing done and your voice is well in you know is kind of like. Wow I gotta step up to the play edits a long way from hanging out with David. David being that suburban boy in a school feeding kind of thing I still think. How did I get here? Pinch me moment all the time. Tom Was in China. When I was at the Great Wall we went I went to the great whirlwind morning? How am I in the Great Wall of I think it see me now? I mean there's the most of these things I just saw. I never take it for granted of what this job has allowed me and who I've met through it Junaid. Mo's like why not jaded by. I like to speaking with Anna wintour about hair So you are very private person which I love. You're not you know taking a million instagram's of you like on the toilet or like Cotija sang or read out asleep in beauty. That feels like that's the way people are getting fame now And getting rid of some sort but as we have you in the studio what do people not know about you. Tell us something like what. Are you doing on a Saturday afternoon. It doesn't have to be like sort it just like the the do you have a favorite TV show or you like hooked on like I don't know junk food. No I try not would be a junk food I mean I can. I have to keep away. I probably am on a Saturday afternoon. Like probably preparing dinner. Me Might Partner Dude. I mean I do like cooking. Yeah you going out and doing the shopping and I love that. I don't have a I mean. I don't think my life is Grand Brian. But it's probably granted than other people's but it's not I don't require. Okay where do you shop. This will make the determination of how people can make freaking being out hang out cinderella or something trader. Joe's kind of guy. I do not see you and I think this good. I can't believe how rees motech taste at the back of the line with your little basket. Why insurance you know all those kids cookies they have? I bet you'd come out of there and you'd be like I could make out of this. It's like right. We see Marc Jacobs next season. Got Like two buck chuck in the hair. I just liked soup box I love to. I'd I'd like to be on my own so there's is no I like to sew wondering perusal the so the shop and then I kinda liked to go home and you know cook it slowly and I find it really realized I mean work does take a long time like opted the count in our get back. I've got a cat I feed here. Momentous question was about the cat okay. Let's move on okay. You have a cat I do. I know about the cat. I think from like a photo shoot or may be instagram. What's your cat's name name? How old coloring his name's Ned? He's he's five next year and Yeah I do I love having him mean is not easy. Gene Gene. Our ingenious. He's a he's a Jinja strong character he he. I shouldn't read read. Have a cat and mouse a little bit. Mean using your eyes and it'll go home. Yeah cats are babysitter. Okay good good okay. So he's very spoiled when I went to pick him up at the you know shout throw the the the place where my him they said. Do you think you'd better look after him As I drove a carve. Because I think he'll be fine until he has people for that and he has a little He outside cat cat so he goes out on the terrace okay Newton L. Cap flapping. He has out there and he goes and stays next door his friends he should have a play date with justice cat. She's she's GonNa cap friends next door and they come in you know so the social things I love having him I Dunno I love going to the movies movies in the morning. Oh isn't that Dole Jen's I eleven o'clock opening just Satan and his cinemas any two people in or something and you are you happy to go by yourself south yes I love it. What's the movie that you really enjoyed recently? What was the move when see judy? Gone with WICCA in about Judy garland which I think I loved up to renew. I mean. I didn't wish she went to she. Goes Dan Rene New York Mag headline it was something about like. Yeah no she's back or she she left. She's Rene is found. You know she was great. I really liked your movie snack. Order do you order the popcorn and eleven Diana Berry healthy man actually. He's not Tisha she doesn't like people eating or a combat the smell of popcorn around. Okay did you bring a water or like nothing. Awards number like a like a combat people chat before in Charleena. We're here for the movies. Peer Haven in the trailers start chatting. Must Stop people still think. It's like texting time. Jared time. No it's IT'S GONNA come down for the thank. You don't know if you should shish them that's so funny. Okay so no popcorn for you. But we're GONNA get him. I'm like I honestly gifts. We are not productwise. You've been working with Redken for years so I know there's lots of that in your kit. But what are some of your favorites these days as you mentioned red commit spin a huge actually pov my solve latter career I say latter. We've been in partnership now being within fifteen years which is just we should point out especial in this industry because usually it's like they worked together for three years moving on and ask the next hottest person on track. They've been really loyal to me and they've we're at such we've got they've got great so supportable why too. I couldn't really I've had a you know to work with the sort of big brand and you know an Redken to Loro brand. You know to work with such a big brand and then being so supportive myself like alternative Idear bt Dt. Yeah I know so so to sort of understand and for me to understand them. It's been like a real of learning to be understand about sort of you. You know 'cause I I work with them on product about it men and I work with them on this of campaigns and pitches you know ice then have to turn my head to a how ahead dresser out of New York might want to see fashion portrayed so I have to then get an another head space as we are is really kind of a challenge in an a good challenge to me And then say develop products and that very good at picking up on if they see me using product maybe not. There's will mixing up a COUPLA products backstage to to create a product that they will start developing that product. You want Grittier hairspray. Okay fine grit in your hair down before so dry shampoos and so text rising sprays they would see me sort of putting sort of powders and spray together a making this attack extra and out of that we developed the wind blown and Surtax rising spray. And you know when they sing. Wet looks and shine than we sort of start developing products that they they see it being used for more than one season to me but and conditioner in the hair. What do we do so you know? That's the kind of and that's a the creative side of it though developing that is fine and you got to play with all different sort of stuff and Yeah it's been a great and an ongoing thing so we have some things in the future that West to work on. What's in your hair right now? It's just like gradient usually what is it by have stayed flat let triple pule Triple take That he too which is a new has O'hare got one on the Kashi. The Protestant products very exciting on our triple pule thirty two Lou said this is all newsy. Love the names they come up with. You make great products like giving pulling numbers. Yeah so this is Yeah triple pure thirty. Two is neutral Newt to non not non fragrance into neutral fragrance has hasn't gotten that bad whiff too when you backstage. Oh my God L. Net clouds everywhere find has going all this. This is much appreciated so Why did I tell you about because you brought us at present about your so at the moment you know? When a new product comes out is my go-to product? Yeah I mean and and has sprays A. It's a product that people often sort of like dismisses. This is old fashioned with that but I actually kind of easy in most styles even if his natural I might spread out my hand. Run it through the heads. It's like you know I suppose like chef check when he's just finished his something he sprinkles a bit a little. Now Don see-sawed at the end zone ever like you know. Lemon zest is a little Triple pure thirty. Two two is a true finish and you smelled gorgeous when you got in the elevator right. At least you see. Where would you wear a Veda shot? Shot crushed to one of their oils. From like there is a I think it's called a vaporizer a stray rat. It's a mess. Yeah they're like aromatherapy purpose. Yes everybody's just chill around you. I don't know it's like I was just saying how nice the smells all bad and mean and I loved him. Yes Yeah Drouin. One Woke Weirdo. You have had a very long day a very packed schedule we appreciate you fitting us in rare conversation You gotta get home to Ned. A waiting wining fight. It's time to raise a WAND NOT GONNA kick it off immediately ready. Go Okay I'm so excited about this product because I got a compliment a compliment that means raising okay. If people are if people are telling you you look good. You're doing something correct. So Jen you noticed that my hair are has been looking more vibrantly so vibrant. I got my hair. Colored in the middle of September is growing fast. 'CAUSE you're pumping out those growth hormones. It is crazy crazy. It's like I don't even have to use sugar bear. I got really means since you've practiced long right. Yeah so The colors been looking really good again. It's been like by the time we listen to this. I was like almost two months or bay. Power drops color preservation booster of. Got To hand it to you. you it's a treatment sarum. You're supposed to put it on damp hair but I forgot so I just kind of a little bit of it. It's a little dropper thing few drops it's a colored serum it's it's not a color serum. It's your helps like protect your color. An obviously I think it boosted a little. There was no tin tonight. It looks really good. Oh I thought you just meant it was like wow no redder and has antioxidants amino acids and has vitamin C. And how much you guys like that. keen watt protein bioflavonoids optic basically a little healthy hair cocktail. But this one they have a few serums they have like one for like strength or one for shine or something like that. I just pay the Colorado because I have to tell you I love what my hair looks after getting colored but frigging hate eight getting my hair colored three hours yet. Wow yeah well. That's kind of it all. It's it's insane when we think about it long it takes to color your hair. I mean and so you're just a single process. Manager highlights our triple process to bleach blonde. So serum is not tinted but it makes your color any color. Gosh now it's not cheap. This is fifty dollars but we're talking to org is smells probably delicious. Okay you gotTa Pay Orbit You gotTa pay you got you want or bay. Hey you pay this new tagline combing good. I will go the other end and I'll give us a bargain with that. Okay no orbit more more. pull the cord research sir. What's up mine's only nine dollars? Forty nine that's handy. Okay maybelline these names. Are you ready super stay ink Crayon in Lipstick Matt Long wear lipstick makeup. I don't know why we are say. Hey we don't have room for all those words. Let's make a deal. I think the worst remember our superstar super stay in Crayon. It is a Chubby like it's an in- crown. Actually that name really says what it is. It's a twist up Chubby Crayon with a really pigmented demented Matt Lipstick and I spent doing the grunge thing this fall very grungy. She's wearing like a little league. beanie like an army green beanie. Some dark lipsticks and leather. How will the dark lipstick is one of these? This shade name is settled for more. Okay all right. Let's I like it. I'm leaning in. I'm settling for more in this light. You look like Sheryl Sandberg the liquid so the the Liquid Matt Lip colors that are in the tube I feel like they get crackly when they dry creamy dry matt to go on it stays that same texture. I think it's the flash off of all tiles and some of the liquid lipsticks. That are really pigmented like this that then dry out my lips even more so even though this is a mat it goes on the way. It's going to be like. Yeah I know you're just not going to evolve into some crushing little prudence in it. Yes and it doesn't split and crack so when it wears. I don't know for some reason. It doesn't where you can go all the way it'd be vinaigrette salad for lunch it'll disappear a little bit but has really long wear and the colors. There's really even and I liked that. It like you know my lip line sort of traveling around. These days is a chocolate brown years. Yeah so it has a nice sharp point so you can get a really precise ISO- matt lip is important very important like I think with any other lipstick. Creamy glossy is okay. If it's not perfect Matt you need it to be perfect so settle settle for. You gotta be accurate. Are you still trying to plummy wine. Shade Nine Bucks is is your money for war. Bay GotTa Pay. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 285-Alex Drayer-D and G Brewing

The Brit and Yankee Craft Beer Pubcast

50:31 min | 2 years ago

Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 285-Alex Drayer-D and G Brewing

"Okay. I will feel anybody's growl or not in the glass business. I've been the beer business. Alleys. A war. Dan. Gene, Yankee pup studios. Now, the big Yankee craft beer. Aachen pipes beam pulled. Not allowed to bring the drums in. Let's have a party. Just. The widow pogo. David. David. Juicy j project. Dick Jacobs take it away for that. How are you? Good. I feel like I'm being interrogated, yes, I've got you sitting down and I'm giving you the third degree and give me the record of that. Excuse me. No, other hands involved in this and the hum in the background is not the sound all airplane or anything like that. It doesn't know the words. So it's got a helmet. Oh, there's a home on the back. Okay. With sitting actually in a brewery, we leave it on all our it is how stream deed, but sitting across from us is the proprietor and head brew of one of the brand new burgers of opened up what I would say under the radar which trying to change here a little bit. We're dean and g brewing company in Saint Charles and sitting across from me is Alex Dreyer, who is the first brewer must have met who has had a do rag on his head. While we've interviewed. Hello, everyone you an ex bike, our Alex come. I am not an ex biker. Embarrassingly sweat a lot. You know, gotta keep gotta, keep it under the hat. Before we get into what d- geez, all about. We had a chance to come down here on your opening night. We came back again found that you're biz were quite quite good for an opening day, and I think he had quite in a rush, but there was some things around it. We'll hear about that what your background and I think you'll lovely wife is Britney as well. Right? Sit is my lovely wife is Britney and Kohner co owner. She's the g. Indian g. and she's out there. Wait a minute I am be is Alex Brittany. We did it by our last name g. for Groot. You got it. All right. And and you know, we were talking about that. I think Dray Olsen Dray was what they used to bring cakes veer into the local hostelries in England, but we'd better check that on Google. Right. That sounds good. I, I did not know that, so I find that to be awesome. Let's pretty cool. So you guys had a background that was completely different to brewing? Oh yeah. We were college professors at the university of more than Colorado teaching criminal Justice. That's that's where we started. And my wife really felt I needed a hobby. Because all I would do is teach and come home and stay in the house all the time. And she's like, no, we have met these. He's kind of old guys that hung out the local brewery. And they kept saying commander, the brew club, we hold a meeting every Tuesday night at seven come down and hang out with us, and my wife just kept pushing and pushing it about two months. After we moved there. I finally went down to hang out with them. What was the burglary Wiley roots brewing and Colorado actually before it was widely routes, it was called Crabtree brewing owned by Jeff Crabtree, and it became Wiley routes when Jeff moved his operation into a larger place. Then Kyle moved into Wiley roots. So it was actually Crabtree when we start and it's like it was like a little hole in the wall right on the train tracks in Greeley Colorado, and the trains would go by and everybody would hold up their beer and he pulled the horns. Every time they went by, and it was just a school spot to the chill at, you know, and it was just saturated with all these old guys that love the brew. And they just just kept telling me, gotta come down, gotta come down. So eventually I did and they're like, oh, man, we just hang out and we drink. Homebrew am like, well, what the hell's Homebrew I'm like, you guys are making your own beer and they're like, yeah, yeah, you so I went to the meeting and we all tried Homebrew and I was like, this is broody. Cool. What? What timeframe are we looking at? Oh gosh. It was two thousand. Eleven the end of two thousand eleven that I did that and it was. I mean, I knew nothing about brewing, you know, the Sierra Nevada was about as is explored a. That's about as far as I pushed myself with beer. So fast forward to two thousand eighteen sitting in front of us, and I have to say, we have selection of, you'll, I think, all of your bruise, right? Because three limited, we'll get into that. Okay. I'm gonna try the coach I because I know I've I've had some advance tastings of this and by all accounts is pretty good. So what made you want to do a coal as opposed to straight up pills neuro, maybe a hell of slogger. My wife. Well, that answers. Now we're moving onto the next one. My wife wanted to do a coal and she came up and here's the lovely Britney. There's an important question going to be. The colts that I needed. Whichever's kicked it go figure. Yeah, it's the one against the wall of the war. She has to do the serving while show having the fun right. Out today. We were pack last. But she wanted to make a cold and it was, you know, I mean, I had done a bunch of IPA's and you know, that was kind of like, you know, I was cut up like. Blinders on when it came to the VIP and she's like, no, I wanna call. So she is, I know recipe and came up with the and it was on teacher friend Abreu day. We were all brewing at Crabtree brewing, and we made a coal and it was quite tasty. And I tweaked it here and there little bit. I wanted out a little more size a little OPEL and the big thing that changed on it was I added spoils also all these hops, and this is what. What was produced. And I really liked it. And I said, you know what, Thirdly, how does she like it was it? She loves it. Her idea. She's gotta love it. Cheesed it in added sports to it a little Opal. I turned out. Alright. So I have a question. Did you have you you've been open for how long. This is our eighth weekend couple of months when we first came in, I got a little more bread Innis on the back end. Have you tweet that slightly avance tweeted at all? Actually, it's just aging. It. And I guess it's settling down. I mean, I tasted this and it's just really rarely nice seems to be to style from what I know about cold. It's it's very easy drinking. Is this your most popular? It is our second most popular beer is the second most popular beer. Interestingly, the first most popular beers, the red? Okay. We'll talk about that in a minute. The Secondly, we were open. A gentleman comes in and he's like, oh, I see you have a coach. Tell me about it. And I said, oh, well, we we order greens from Wyoming and their German hills, greens cycle. That's good accent, and we get our yeast from Cologne Germany. I go Cologne, Cologne, Germany, and he goes, no, no, no. I know what he goes. There is no Cologne, Germany, and I went, no, I'm pretty sure it's Cologne, Germany guys know Cole. Cole. Germany and I went, oh, he goes all l n cold. I'm from coal, and I went shit. I was. Like all, but he loves the colesville months and drank about four of them. Well, that's good. I was like, I was like, all right. I'm sticking to it a much aging. It's it's the rest of and as I understand it, they have a special very thin told loss to drink it. You need to get some of those. When I make some more gusting glass world. All right. Let's go back. So you of started to do Homebrew back in Colorado. How'd you get from Colorado to Illinois and actually taking that big step where you get investors or you find money to starts brewery? Okay. My wife wanted to move back home. This is home for her. She grew up in l. man who sister lives in Saint Charles or other system, but this is home and I kind of really didn't wanna leave Colorado. I was like, let's go on another adventure. Let's flagstaff Mexico. She's like, no, I wanna go home when well, is there any chance you'd let me open a brewery? And she was like, yeah, you could do that as like. So let's go back. I'm ready. Why not? I'd love to. You know, I mean. No, no, not even a little bit. I mean, I love teaching. I enjoyed it. My career. I love really and I can't think of a better career to roll into retirement within twenty five years. You know, it's just a lot of fine. But if you don't think of doing it is wide open. Boy, you're in urine for treat because this is a steep learning. I have learned so much. You had mentioned investing. We have no investors. I took what I had in my retirement and teaching and what I made on the sale of our house in Colorado, and I basically sucked up all the money I could possibly suck up and I follow Tom Hennessy's the brewery operations manual to an absolute tea. And I opened this place about one hundred nineteen thousand dollars, which is pretty damn good about half of his much as we've heard other breweries needed to just open the door. So you must have done a whole bunch of. Would yourself? I did a lot of the work myself. I built the bar. I built all the tables, the things I couldn't do the things I paid for plumbing, electric h. back and basically the fours, but muddying the concrete walls and. Painting and all of that. I did it all myself. Have to seal away replacing the windows, you know, did it all myself. Otherwise you can't do. And yet. Bought all the equipment. I mean, bought a, you know, the my, my mash Tun off dairy, former and Hannah guy up in Wisconsin outfitted with a screen and some rules I had bought the thought we were going to do a ten barrel system in the city of Chicago, and that's a story for another day. Deal what you couldn't bribe enough people. L. developers tearing down buildings without permits and not being able to get permits it was quiz what ahead to sell, all the tender stuff I bought. I mean, four meadows at bought from trip get, and I had bought a ten barrel brew kettle. From forge words. I remember. I mean a loved it. It was shiny new and a hug and kiss the thing when the guy came and picked it up at that bought it from me, but I called Tom up at words works. And I said, hey, you know, I gotta eat grin. That's all I have like I need a kettle. I know you made Colorado boys cattle for Tom Hennessey. I was like, you make me something kinda that simple again. And he said, well, let me think about it. And he called me back and he goes, okay, I'm gonna make you Franken kettle for for for eight grand. And as I understand it now they're in production and they're selling them everywhere. Yeah, it is being most basic cattle. You can get ends down American-made steel, American-made wells, it's it's quality. It's got a ceramic coated fire box, so it meets all standards and it's, it's. It's awesome that good that for me and I'm assuming that it seem pretty constant use based upon what you've been able to produce in that short period of time. Yeah. We were brewing growing anywhere from once a week once every two weeks. You know, I'm trying to keep up with the man and we're starting to get product out to out to toppers Lodi pick this up, and I was who. Who'd Lodi top house able part. I was super happy about that because that's like one place. I was like, I walk my ear and the owners that place loved it. I walk into noble house this morning after we had Broadway, and I said, you know, hey, they were like, we know about you. We heard about you. I was like, well, you guys need to come down and try bureau loved to be on the tap. And they're the ones who told me about gamut house and said, oh, you gotta go up again at house. Get your beer in when you Bruin. Do you listen to music? Always what he listened to. The Grateful Dead fish. You know, somehow I don't use. I can see this man in agree. I was I was thinking metal. Okay. Yeah, I would on pinned or actually the fish radio, and I have it programmed to play everything. That that when you know Metallica. Listen to brewing very well. Let's let's take a quick grey off of me early HALE. That's good fan. Let's take a quick break. And as we do that, we'll solve the rent and come back and tell you what we think one. Hockey. So. So we've tasted the red globally red, the red that was the one you all? I was looking forward to that one in the style. What I'm looking. I love it. It's Sodhi l. is gone. It's gone. I didn't waste any time you've been talking. I've been drinking. Okay. And that's usually how it worked. Right? That's what I love this because it's it's not I most Red Sea try are in my opinion little over the top. They notion a little. I think if I was a lease favor of my, yeah, but, but this one's really smooth. Yep. Great. Tastes a little bit on the back end, but then it goes away and you wanna go back for more. Did you put any oatmeal in this to make a smooth? No, real at all. It could not be a simpler Greenville, I, it's, it's hotter crystal, six. That's why like a good English molten. Actually, I do not use to row which everybody uses to my base Mira Sada. Gives you a little bit of like nutty Brady characteristic to your, and that's a little more expensive right little spent -fensive, but it's well worth the money. It is. Absolutely. I'm gonna make a winner read based on this version and I am picking up the Chris of floor malted Nara sonner for that, which should impart a little more of that biscuit bready flavor to it, which I'm really excited to do. So I think it'll be nice winter. That'd be great. Oh, it's excellent. So the red is is a thumbs. All your. Oh, you're great. Mouth feel and everything. So we're, we're in tell so you were stopping looking at a place in Chicago that didn't work out. You came to Saint Charles now for anybody who has been to this location. It's kind of set back a little. When you look at it. There's a sign, although now that's been corrected, the original sign was for a sports, whatever the hell it is. What is it next grid sports academy, which is for teaching youth, softball baseball. And then there's also personal trainer over there and a women's work syllabi upstairs. So we're like this brewery tucked into this kind of sports complex. So you you've found this location of, and I know for fact that you are going to be putting on a dank because you had that located that's down now, see signs outside. So tell us take us through the Saint Giles process out our septic with a. Could not have been easier. Saint Charles. I mean, we went to the development plume first. Then we talk with the mayor and the police chief. And then we met with met with city council and they voted on us at any it was it was an easy process for us to go through. They made it easy for us. I think they really wanted a brewery down and I know that it really want anymore bars, but they wanted the brewery and we're the first first burry to come in and. Yeah. I mean, now we've go to a number of good locations up and down the faults. So you got your neighbors to the where all we as south of Geneva pan rose an and of course, you know a couple of others that gonna come in further down the FOX. So you found this location what you know when you walk into it. I kinda describe it as you kind of walk into a little bit of a kind of a when the Beatles played the cavern in live oppo you kind of send you knew this kind of dingy. Cool place. We go, go music. Now you walk into here and it's got that kind of low kind of basement feel to it, but it's not. But it just has some feel about it that is, hey, I'm drinking really local. This was an old machine, fabrication, shop. I mean, pour concrete walls. It was a poured concrete ceiling, you know, I mean, we ought to get a lot of a lot of work to do got this place together, but it really was like we was like a machine shop. It's got the old, you know factory windows on an annual. It's it's, it's unassuming. You don't realize what you're walking into when you walk in. And I mean, the landlord's been really cool and when he's done a lot to make the building nice and that's helped us along with making the brewery as nice as we know. One thing we noticed from our other visit soon as we walked up as the new deck outside, are you planning to have that open? Stay open through as close to winners possibly can have some portable heaters or stuff like yet. We're gonna get some propane heaters to put out there, and we're going to keep. It open. I tried to push for a fire pit, but something about the fire marshal in twenty feet from a building. I was like, brick doesn't catch on fire, but that's okay. I don't need to have the firepit. What are they though? Awesome deck kanobi great. For those Indian summer days, if we haven't completely had them also for us, we're recording this beginning of Tober Saturday. It scarecrow festival in Saint Charles. So there are a bunch of people milling around down that. Has that helped you people been in? Has we were back last, we were pleasantly surprised. It was probably our second busiest night since we open and we're expecting the same tonight. It's going to be a good crowd that I fear the bands that are plane. Its growth said there were coming down the night. Yeah, get him to play. I would love it. If they played, I don't know if they will, but you never know. A school. So you're in, you're doing all the work yourself. There was kind of late when when I first tasted your beer, it was at the. The beer festival. Tri-city. Thank you. Formats that for a second, the tri-city brew festival, and you had a small stand and said, hey, we're going to be in Saint Charles opening in three weeks. And I guess affectively it was a little more like five weeks, five or six ever. The optimist is Alex. Ever. The optimist I never goes quite his plan. It really was just about the beer being ready beard is what some ready, you know. And if there's anything, you know it is make good beer. Your place might not be perfect, but you better make good beer. If you don't have good beer, why are you doing? It doesn't. You can have all the glitz and glitter in the world. But if your beer is not good enough, people are still not gonna come a trait, so you know, doesn't matter if you still are doing things working on your deck, other things that you got good beer the proving last night you had people in your you said it was packed. So absolutely. I mean, a lot of repeat business. I mean, we're looking at about, I want to say thirty five to forty five percent of our businesses. Repeat customers. We're starting to get the regulars you know, that are here every week, and we're liking that. And then we're bringing in some new business on top of it. I already we've had over five hundred people coming to the borough drink the Bill. So speaking of regular, a regular appearance, oh, most is tactless is an IP a and we move onto our next sample that we have. It's your Denali. I which obviously there has to you don't really name your biz. Right? So you go co shred coming up his imperial life and style, but this one has a name. What's the story behind that? Op is known as Denali. That's how still still kinda gigolo. Coolio coach sauce coach on the way wasn't wasn't saws disease. We've. So the Denali IP tell us what you were hoping for in this profile. I was hoping for a mild bidder. With pay. Nice malt back in something that was smooth, easy to drink very much in the style of English. English as were ails. Yes, that's that would generally spoil if they didn't throw hawks into him in order to get it over to India. So I was going for something that you can tell. There's a strong Matt malt backbone to where you pick up that biscuit ready flavor of the mall. I think would say as go go like that. You've really succeeded on this because it's not particularly Ford, and I'm thinking that it's well Beilenson. It's not in your face. I call this a midwest idea because we don't have that New England stuff going on there with the with the milk shake or whatever. You don't have the west coast citrus. This is if you like found the centennial which is using centennial this is centennial light. And I mean that in the it's not quite such bit finish. I like it a lot. You don't like saying. I don't. And the one thing that kind of threw me at first. And this is a question too, is I didn't notice that big floral punch that a lot of them have nothing a dead giveaway that all I got. I got a gear up for this one. This one, I didn't get that. So what what is the hawks? The hab is denying odd Willis, right? You said that. Listen harvest only. It actually gives you a bit in its description orange note like almost like an orange zest in it up front, but it quickly kind of dissipates into more of that plainy resonance taste and balances. Well, with malls, this is one thing that I hardly ever say when it comes to IT as is this is one that I drink all the time you go because it's not over the top, but it has a bold flavor. The flavor is really intense, doesn't it? You know, there's a little bit of that bitterness again on the back end. But the flavor of this is not like any other hit where you get into like, like you said before often you're like. Like. So bitter can't take this got enough bitterness in it and the flavor. The background flavors in it is like nothing I've ever had. I would call this if I wanted to have an IV a post, cutting the war on my tractor. So it's not exactly searching myself. I call this my little more right. A. c. which I, you know really decent. I think you do well canning this bugger. That's cool. That's awesome. You know, I, it's other, I don't like that blow you away bitterness from a number of different ideas that are out around the market, the west coast Ileye BA's. But I found that I like I like a multi IPO exits what I like. You know. So the question I have is, you know, at some point in time, do you think you'll going to have to brew something that's like a New England or west? I probably will never Bruin New England. It has that for me. It has had some little. There are some little I will. I will probably I will always have the Dalai I, it's it's the house idea, but I will probably at some point brew a west coast Ileye PA where I won't use Mira solder as my my malt and go to a two row. Even though I said, I don't brewer to go to what you row because it's the only way to whiten up the beer enough to really essentially the bitterness of the west coast. So when you started out here, I think as I looked to my left and that means nothing to the listeners, but I see that you have your old pilot system sitting up on the rack and you now have your brand new match, Tom, and all the other accoutrements you have with these. He's a bright tanks by are. Actually, these are matters. Unibank fermenters. Okay. So not only do I for men and on my also carbonated. So you've got those sitting in here. You basically come full circle to really everything that you wanted to put in. Plus you got a heat exchange of sitting in the middle of your very, is that is that where it sits? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. Dose around that? I do. I do. It's kind of strategically placed where I can't hook up hoses from the kennel into it, and then hoses out of it Indu either for manner without tripping over stuff, and it's kind of. Out of the way slightly. Although yes, it's in the middle of the room, but the alternative was handed on a stand that was so cumbersome that I kept tripping over it, and it was always in my road. This only takes up about. You know, fourteen inches by fourteen inches. Right. So you're in full full brewing production mode now, I guess. What did you find in this process of going from Homebrew to commercial group that you didn't expect. Every besides ever the. Wait a minute. It was in that book wasn't a while as all in the book. Honestly, I'm telling you eight is it's all in that book which helped out tremendously. And also my friends that own breweries helped out tremendously so that I didn't have to make a lot of mistakes. I think new brewers make, and but I think just the sheer amount of work out of sheet. This is a physical job, you know? I mean, the hoses weigh a ton and you're moving them around the green. You know, the green bags are all fifty five pounds and stirring in four hundred pounds of green. I mean, you're like, I mean, it's it's work. I have a question. Why? Why is it the fifty five pounds versus fifty pounds? I don't know other than I just wanted to make maybe easy for twenty five kilograms. There you go from the European. I think that's what they wanted to do. I, I don't know for that, but I. Yeah, I just everything's twenty five kilogram. So it's which is the five thousand? Yes. So having experienced a little bit of the brewing process when we brew something with all the time. I know what you mean because it's what I went from. A a Wimpy teacher, Hugh. Hey, like brewer, words like, yeah, to get your man card out like they, I'm gonna work for a living from now on. No, right every little sway. Yeah. Goodness, lost twenty five pounds. I can actually lift to cut now. I'm like, I'm like. I can lift a cake. Could do that before, but you know what? This, it's dangerous. I'll tell you right now. Like I was brewing Sunday a week ago, and I had a role in the boil kettle. It blew out. I mean, I had a liquid, go two and a half feet up into the air and Jove out of the way that's two hundred. Twelve degrees of scalding hot scalding work by face would have been over that time. I'd be in hospital right now. Not here in the burn unit. You can get hurt in every time I come home. My wife's like, how are you bleeding again? And I'm like, don't worry about, you know. Seriously short for show. Glad you are here now, otherwise, Nevada, polka. So purely selfish. All right. We'll take a quick break. Come back. We were away suddenly realize we hadn't been talking about any AB vis. Do you have those in your mind? Their Alex? Oh, coach Cole, shes four, five. The red is five. Denali is seven, two, and now we're going to head to the imperial IP. So I'm gonna guess on this one, tell us, is it the Denali just two little? No, it is not. This is a single hop. It's called laurel. One of the Homebrew club's one of the brewers from the Homebrew club came over here to help me brew volunteered, and I had a whole bunch of different hops that I could've brewed that day and I was brewing an imperial, and thank you. I just ninety two. Almost on the money. It's nine. Okay. Yeah. Okay, bacterial story. Okay. Well, I said, what hop would you like to use wind through the hops that I had that we could use these said, what about laurel? I was like, sure why not? I never use laurel before, but the hot company sent me. What was it? Twenty two pounds of it as a gift. Let's use it. So we experimented in used Worrell and then it had actually look it up to find out what profile laurel gives the beer. And they say it's a little bit of pineapple, no to it and like a mild spiciness in the kind of pine needle resin with it. And. I definitely get the off. Again that I'm trying to find the piney apple. Yeah, I think it's kind of that little bit of residual sweetness. I so sampled it while you were talking and they just I wasn't expecting everyone of these has been so smooth, and I was expecting it to be high out that, but it's just like the other VA where it's very smooth, not really any face and the alcohol. The boozy nece comes through. But no, I would. I was actually gonna guess around eight, something like that. So you know nine is up aways and yeah, yeah, but this is this is totally like you said, totally different from the other one. This one, a lot more pronounced in the bitterness lot more really know stick around. I mean, I'm feeling like I'm the sides of my tongue. And yes, the back now, do you serve this sniff them Ono? No, none at all points. Goodness. Please landlord rewarm eyeglasses, fourteen ounces and it's for true. Twelve ounce four. So let me ask you a question on this, and I know the answer. You've gone with traditional light over the counter big losses. Forgetting in your little song plaza like little Mason jar with animal, which a really cool by the way, but you don't have your logo on it and I'm assuming that a f- to bring bid to people the way that it should be an Gossett ship people without the extra logo spat strike. I not that I'm not about branding, but it's, I mean, I just wanna produce good. I mean, like that's about it. And I hope people like what they're drinking. You know, it's true for one of the reasons I picked glasses because I just remember as a kid going to the VFW with my grandfather and you know what they served a beer in this glass. And this to me is what a beer glass looks like. You know, I'm sure if you're, you know, in England, it's the vote, punk class the dimple. That's I think that's what you come accustomed to. And that's what I came across them to. And I, I'm worried about like, oh, it's nine percent or it's four percent. It's a beer. It's a five dollar beer. It's a poor, the true poor, twelve, twelve ounce. You know, you get your getting what you pay for and it's not. It's not a gimmick. It's real trailers. It's not a hassle. It is. It's it's good. What was I talking about last night? Something that I know I posted something Facebook was just concern about. Whether you're drinking beer from a local brewery or fuel drink and be from burry that's been purchased by one of the big boys or has a big share in it. It is all about the beer, really. I mean, if you're getting. Okay. So let me ask Alex opinions and you know, this is this is a pump Goss. You can say, you want opinions on the big boys versus somebody like yourself who's making truly good beer locally and it's easily available to us. Would you like to get by somebody for million bucks? No. But if someone offers me a million bucks. Okay. Sell them the brewery and opened up another small brewery. The sad part is, is the large breweries that were bought out the beer slightly changes. It's probably because I and I don't know this fact, but as I understand it in order to have consistency and beer, they often have to blend and mix batches in order to keep the consistency, which in my which which has to change the beer of bit. I look at as small brewer. I really hope to be consistent every single time, but at a small broil. So no, that that's there's got to be very Asian, like slight variation and everything I make. It might not be exactly the same every time. I mean it could just be that while the yeast spent one extra day sixty nine degrees not sixty eight degrees as result. It just changes the flavor slightly, but that's what I think makes craft beer craft beer dismissing opinion. It's like being a home brewer, you make a batch. The next batch might be a little bit different, but it's still good. It's still clean. It's like drinkable. No-one faction, and you and you wanna drink it even if it is just slightly different, you know. And I'm sure once you go to canning your product and and bottling you, there's gonna be ways of of producing greater consistency. But I, you know, I mean, the big boys, God level. If you're lucky enough and someone wants to give you two million dollars to buy your brewery, you know, bloody well take the money. And then go up, you know, go go self another brewery. So we're compete. Yeah, yeah. There you go. So we are to final brute because you only have like five or six five beers right now and this Sunday we're going to brew a Belgian pale. Which. It's hard one because we bitter with galaxy hop. So you actually have this kind of Chartres bidder to it, and it's super white straw colored and very mild Belgian notes. So. Will be ready when. We'll see about five or six weeks. Okay. We'll come back and be the judge of that. I don't think I can wait five or six weeks to come back. So we're, we're, we're drinking law. Solvable here is stout yes, lanes. Now that's your choice. Abreu the moment. That's the one that you've been sitting sipping while we've been going through your gamut hit. Tell us about it. It is a roast chocolate. Meal scout is the first out ever brewed brute it as an imperial, a ten percent. This is not. This is five point, five percent and. It is no adjuncts. It's no nibs or coffee in it. It's all done with roasted barley chat, the malt, you know, again, marriage hotter in a little bit of week. And I, I really, I like, obviously I'm drinking a, it's it's a beer that I drink. A lot of between this in my rag. These are the two, I alternate back and forth, even though I love my as, but I, I all to make back and forth, and it was maybe a couple years ago that I threw out meal in it because I wanted to kind of smooth out the body on it a bit by. It's not a nitro not a giant fan of the little tiny bubbles mega creamy. I could make it creamy otherwise wanna make it creamy you. You know, play with Nash Hampshire, maybe out a little bit of a little bit more Wheaton, it little up your meal if you wanna make clinic. But now this is the recipe. I really like I, I drink four or five of these. Haven't problem with that? No, this is really good. I love the flavor of this. It's kinda real crisp clean taste to it. Very, you know, you know, some of them get a little glue. You know, you start, you go away from drinking going, wait a minute. You know, there's a coating any something to get rid of that. This is really clean tasting great mouth feel on this. This is a great day for the full. Well, I have to say style should be drunk anytime of year. In this American thing. I do. Doubts all the time. Doesn't matter the Irish do it all the time. Give joy scout. It's so sweet scout. This is really nice now, really. So I'm enjoying it by the way I agree with you. It is. It's clean. There's nothing fancy. It's great. Roasting this, good beer. You know, as you say, I have four or five days if I were Dr. Anyway. So what is the very, go ahead? What does the the future hold being as how you hear some eight or nine weeks into this adventure or this journey? I think you called it wasn't an adventure eventual. Yes, definitely. It was an adventure. So what does the, what does it? How style wise are you going to Brown Chow? You're going to have vents. What's going on. The the fibers you had right now for those five or staple beers. You know, the red, the cold, the the scout and Denali are the staple beers. The imperial always wanted to period, but I think I will always want to switch the hops on it and allow people to experience a different hot. You know, there's won't use like magnum, but there are hops that I've always wanted to try. What are you going against magnum to earth for me. No scotch ales. Probably not. Scottish though. All right. Okay. Mega Scottish, we do have one feeling worse. What how many shillings. Shilling remember Dell's is like six hundred. I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see how it turns out. And when you made that tell you the story of how they test, I'll see how it is. We'll mail. I question kind. It was long the same lines, what you are you planning on doing kind of crawlers growlers. Anything like this out growlers now you know, the kind of cheap they are sticker on, but we are going to get axed ones as at. 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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 311-Ed's Cider House Rules!

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Pubcast from The Brit and Yankee-Show 311-Ed's Cider House Rules!

"Your videos. Yeah. Be negative. He wanted. Hey, that's a good. Who you looking at when you say that it was just looking just generally off in the distance. What? Yankee pup studios. Now the Yankee craft beer. Arken the pied beam. Not allowed doing bring the drums in. Let's have a party. David. The. E. Dick jacobs. Take it away. For that. All right. Welcome to a Royal the different pub costs from the Britain Yankee, we're no in the Britain Yankee, but I am with my wonderful guest co host, Mr. Chuck full from church street. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Oh, you've changed your hand. All the time. Good, man. All right. And actually, we do have another guest host with us tonight. Who used to be the host the guest host until you bug it off the Boise Idaho. And that's Mr Martin Naski. How're you doing fill? I've tried to become here. Razov finance? I come you have indeed. And we still actually if I get this one out before the other one we recorded we go to special on Boise Bizet. Well, every bear up in the west, right? Tasted a mini brings them we taste them. But today, you may hear a slight echo because we are in a taproom, and we're in Saint Charles Rashleigh tat room. Not only does it serve great cross biz. But it's a side ary and winery and the name of this is it's broken bricks downtown Saint Charles, Illinois. And speaking was I am Ed seaman. I'm the owner winemaker cider maker. And I'm here with my son, Mike who is the taproom. Manager. He brings in all the crafty beers, and is responsible for the wonderful selection that we have here in house. He's a man of few words, he says the BSO. He's good. So we we came in here a couple of weeks ago, you were them about three weeks ago, we came in and we kind of sat down and had a beer, and then you brought out some ciders and said, hey, this place is not really for cross beer. It's a site ary. And I went really at let's taste some of your wares. And we did. And I thought they were rather deliciously extraordinary things. I'd never tasted before. Thank thank you pre. She ate that. And being from England, you must get your hands on quite a few ciders yourself in the old days when I was a. I grew up with scrumptious down indefinite coal is very much a unfil- to kick your ass Sida and had many day drinking three or four points of end sleep in the night off. But. But Sida is not a beer style. Am I correct? You are correct cider is technically a wine as anything made from fruit is technically wine anything made from grain. Of course, courses beer, and that includes sake, which some people find as being called rice line. It's truly a beer. And then we also make our own me kind of comes in the middle somewhere. Meters. Meters this meat, but made is actually a BJ CPI style. If I'm correct off from. From. Correct. Doesn't necessarily mean. It's a beer. Here's Mead is for the furious. Vikings that want to go out in pillage villages in the countryside. And that's why they are so cranky in the morning because this stuff packs pretty good kick cranky Vikings cranky Viking, we just invented another beer night. I mike. What are you gonna make that interest? Andrews are named is throw that went past him to Andrew that. All right. So back to Sida. So we're on the corner of route sixty four and third street. Yes. And as you come into the taproom through the corner dole your face with the ball. But then if you look further down this building, you'll see Homebrew supplies. Correct. That's what we start it. That's where you started right as the Homebrew shop, and I think we that. She did a show way back with you on the Homebrew show. We came down. Yeah. Must've been three years ago. Yeah. Four years, at least out home brand. So I started out buying on my stuff that was coming here. You know? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Right. Right. And this is where the reason home is the reason why we're here I met Mark Naski at a party, and he was chomping on some fish that I got out in Alaska, and he said, this is delicious. And well the rest is history and the rest is. And did you go on with him? Oh, we went fishing together, all fishing. Okay. Well, you said it was a party. I just didn't know what kind of Paul. Okay. All right now. No, there's. All right. So if you go further back from the Homebrew, then there's this gloss wall slash door. Yeah. And that's where the magic happens production room. That is a that's our winery and broken bricks, which is a registered trademark of our. Our product that's our labeling, and it's a DA doing business as we still have the corporate name Homebrew shop LTD, but broken bricks is the winery name, and it's spelled B R I X bricks is another name for sugar and my building was falling apart. And it was a combination play of. Well, let's see the bricks are falling off the wall and the buildings on a part, and when you for meant sugar it breaks down as well. So we'll just kind of playing that there's a story behind the broken bricks. And I think when I received before you telling me that you have to settle the site. You make to yourself. Yes. It's kinda strange. I mean, that's a bonded area. So when it comes out of bond, James, of course, James bomb. Yes. Shaken not stirred. All right. And once once it comes out of the winery. Production area, then the excise tax need needs to be paid. So you technically sell it to from the from the winery to the retail side. So I'm selling it to myself, which means I'm paying taxes on it. Yeah. Right. That's right. That's what we wanted to get out mister tax, man. He's paying taxes. All right. So I said, okay, we wanna try your delicious side of which you have three currently on tat I have three untapped, and I have bookended you'll Seitis with two that I brought in not knowing anything about it other than the fact that I know English Sida. So I went out, and I got an asphalt drying side, which apparently was established apples was established in seventeen twenty eight. That's one was five thirty in military time will the other way round. I mean, that's just a couple years after you're born. Right. Well, thank you very much. And then the end of it. I I've I've added something in hopefully will cross the cross the barrier if you will into brewing because we have one from California from Crispin brewing company. Crispy brewing, crisp inside a company it's called the Saint, and it is an autism reserve, unfiltered, odd Sida, which has Belgian Trappist yeast and pure maple syrup in it. So we're gonna finish out with that one. And see if you'll ones beat beat them. All right. Hey, we'll we'll this round now. So you net. So he Mr. Bauman, Mike, you're gonna have to go and get a couple more. So we can solve all of the apples in decided. Now, this is profit as they say here. Everything's Kroft these days in Suffolk England, and it is six point eight percent alcohol, which I don't know decide a run the gamut of. ABC's? Well, it all starts with the original bricks if you will the gravity and typically you can determine the alcohol content by knowing the amount of alcohol sugar knowing them out of sugar you start with which determines the ultimate alcohol. Content and you'll see a lot of ciders that they're going to be just under seven percent Helga hall. Okay. And there's there's a few reasons for that one reason is excise tax is it jumps up at a certain point and then labeling requirements anything. Under seven percent alcohol. Does not require a label approval by cola anything over does. Conditional of label approval over its govern. It's a part of the. Yeah, it's all part of that. TV process. Okay. So you you submittal able to them. And then they reject it, which it's part of the process, and then you can even if it's okay they rejected. Yes. Because it's it's under the alcohol limit that there that you're required to get a label approval for okay, I got so many side is in front of me, I confirm which one I had to get okay. So. Yeah, decider. So which is this one. That's the other one okay off. It's not a truce Crump scrubby where the bits and pieces are floating in the in the liquid. It's an unfiltered version of the same that we're trying here you will notice flavor differences as well. Between the two I bought it will not his flavor differences between the five. So is the appropriate way to solve on Tayside of the same as doing with beer, which is you know wing around look at it sniff. It. All you all your factory you wanna pull in much that you can smell visually. You can look at it as well. I mean, this this one here is a little cloudy English. One is not right. And that's and that's the first woman. Try now. Yeah. I know that there was a lot of dry ciders. Can you tell us? What does that mean? Dry means for meant it completely ferment it and no residual sugar. There are some ciders. Like, I was reading the label on this Crispin that additional apple juice was added after fermentation provide a little bit of sweetness. When when. The apple juice for Matt. It's completely down to no more sugar left. You have the acid that remains. You have the apple flavor and character, you have your alcohol and sometimes a little bit of sweetness to bring back that up. Apple characters added back in just before bottling. What is the most common apple variety? That's used. Well, we don't use one. Apple we use a variety of blend of apples, and what you want to try to do when when making cider is have a balance between sweet, acidic and bitter apples. So I talked to the farmer. I say this is the profile. I'm looking for you're going to go out to your orchard pick of Riecke percentage of this many sweet say fifty percents sweet twenty-five percent CITIC and twenty five percent bidder. So you're looking for complexity so that you can put together a a well-balanced product rather than something. That's just very monotone IQ. So they using Chuck and mock they using Apple's the same way as you would use hops to adjust the flavor and the bitterness and the aroma. No, I don't think so the when he talks but servers and all that kind of stuff. I I don't hops. I just a bitterness. Aroma and flavor thing, but he's bitter part. I think is big because the sweet parties like what kind of multiple in. And then the bitter part would be the hops like like twenty five percent to me that at hop part. The because then we also can use acidic malts and get that fly that character into the beers is at twenty five percent would be quick answer from my perspective. Yeah, you have to balance everything has to be balanced. We use hops to balance beers out. He's using different apples to balance things out. Same thing. You don't want to go too much under the bitter side. A bitter apple for those of you. That would like to understand what that is. It's like a crab apple something bite. You spit it out. Oh. Call one of my favorites. Right. So you know, when you're when you have an apple and you for meant out all the sugar, you need to these other characters in the in the types of apples that we have will bring across the complexity and the balance for the particular cider. Question. Ed now, if you if you didn't use the others just firm, it all all the serger. Would you have outcome Hollick onto tones then in the cider maybe not aware of that? I'm not really sure, but I have made a single vintage or single variety of cider. And to me, it was a little bit one one dimensional flabby. If you will. I took MacIntosh apples. We had bushels off them, and we just made it straight straight cider. And it's not very complex thinking. They're very lacking. When you when you don't have the blend. But you know, you know, the best time to to pick Macintoshes. I don't want us when when it's raining. And with that. We'll take a quick break. Proper gel. So we so we come back, and we're comparing the first side of Rome ED's offering Greg broken brick was it. Gold broken bricks, all those social scrumptious social scrumptious. Okay. And this is the one I have here. So. The ashfall drying side of which reviews, very very baseline. If this. Exactly, I quoted Aspel. Okay. And it's comes from his one acid. And it's actually a mo- some Coors product because they bought the asphalt side company wall back, and so they produce that anymore history on that. It's in Suffolk in England. I'm not I hate to say it. But I'm not too certain with Suffolk is. But I think it's east England in England. Yeah. Thank you. So now, we're going to we're going to solve you'll so tell us about your your base on your social scrub. This is our base cider that. We use for all the products that we have on the table on the bio right now. So the difference between the one drinking now and the next one's going to be filtered. And you'll notice that you retain a little more character in the product by not filtering it. But as you can see a big difference in your audience can see. I will take keep talking. So that the filtered version is more appealing than the unfiltered version and. Darker? It's the same. It's exact same batch. The only thing that goes a little bit cloudy, though. I might. So I might. These are both mile, right? Okay. Get got you. Okay. I'd say that I don't know if it's going to be easy to see anyway. So. It's it's just a little bit of difference. In flavor, you're gonna find maybe in the unfiltered version something I called like bruised or overripe. Apple you get some of those characters when it when it finishes you should be able to pull up some of the Tannen in the product kind of drives your mouth out, which is good kind of like a hop puts a little bitterness in there in the finish. And then makes you want to take another drink. So that's all part of the magic of making cider. So mark. I know how you know big on sweet things, and I think sido can be considered to be fairly sweet compared to a lot of biz. But you've you've tasted how for option on. And then you've tasted ED's what sort of comparison. Can you mean? Well, my compares is that this what came out of England is more like Homebrew ish. If we say beer in beer, terms and ED's is more like mainline easy. Drinking. I it's like has some more well rounded character than than what came out of bottle. That's little bit more artisanal. Maybe that would be my. I think it's the more carbon. You'd think as little more carbonated. Yes. I did. Yes. I think so it's a little brighter. So it seems to me that most site is have a big physical, right? That seems to be a profile for him. Because a flat side is like a flat beer. It's really not very tasty. Right. Let is going to be more like a still and this. This are cider. I tend to compare it to sparkling wine. If you will I wanna have that level of carbonation it's much higher carbonated than a standard beer, I'm running at. I'm running my pressure at twenty two PSI at thirty eight degrees Fahrenheit. And so somehow yours is like very I think is very different to the one that we I had. I mean, I can taste the difference and given the too I think dry that Buell's because there is more. Character to it. So we'll. Well. We're joining that. So tell us how you go into make inside because you also make wine I make wine as well. And the reason why I went with cider. There's there's a couple of reasons our liquor license came in in late late fall mid to late fall. And we missed the great Parviz. But we were still plenty of time for the apple harvest. And so I filled up the thousand liter tanks with a couple batches of sider. And this is where we're at with that right now, we I want to kind of cut my teeth if you will or kind of learn how to do this process because I've had plenty of experience making five gallon six gallon batches, but when you go into a two hundred and fifty gallon batches, it's not linear the way thing that you would think it would be you just don't add the same amount of yeast that you do to five you have to do some calculations. You have to also appease the regulators the food and Drug administration. I think has like rules that we have to follow on the items that we can add. I think that's been one of the more difficult parts. We can't really do exactly. Our our exact recipes that we've had we have to follow some of the federal government's rules on what we can actually do in our ciders mines. I mean, if I had sugar for sweetening, I have to create invert sugar to add it to my product. I just can't take inverse or invert sugar as you take table sugar, and you add and while you add acid to it. Then you heat it up, and then the acid acid will break down into simpler glucose and through tros, just basically breaking down the chain of sugar in verts at from the multiple chains. So what I heard there was also yeast being part of this. This is this the same process as making beer where you know, you've got your ward and make a coup of making food for use. Basically, you're just taking the depending on the east variety can eat certain kinds of cigars and we're providing triggers as brewers from green but cigarettes come from apples as well. So they're in basically the difference. Did you did you know that in twenty fourteen study one pint of US Sida mass balk at Sida contain five teaspoons of sugar, which is nearly the amount. The wealth organization recommends adults daily allowance of added Shogo so sugar is a very big component in Saida sugars big component in anything that we make. It's it's it's what's going to create the the alcohol that we do at a small amount of sugar after fermentation has done. In the reason for that is the apple product for men's to dryness, and you need to add a little bit of sugar to bring back the fruit character and to balance that off the acidity as well. Another thing we do in our fermentation processes we add Mel lactic bacteria. So we change the malic acid into lactic acid, which makes it softer eats little easier on the on the pal you're not you're not limiting the acid. You're just converting the acid into a different type of acid. I can say that our side or has nowhere near that amount of sugar left behind in ours. We we ferment our side or to completion. And then just at a very small amount of sugar back to probably seventy five one is the ratio. Yeah. So very very small amount. So I will take one gram of sugar to basically wine wine bottle seven hundred fifty milliliters. I think a lot of people get confused about your ETA product. Certainly when you look at the, you know, the the Bud Light advertising with corn sugar. And all that big hullabaloo about that people don't really understand that you're giving food and it takes. But in Syria gets gets eaten by the east turns into alcohol and seal to and all that kind of stuff, you know. So what you're saying that there's much height high suitors that don't ferment in insider right now, the very simple. It's very simple search, and it's one hundred percent for mount sweetness left behind like there is in beer. Okay. Because as I say, the reason I pulled that up is that I do find site is to be sweet in their treat in the drinking. And they're also very fizzy. But off to you've had a simple to it tends to settle down. And then you stop just like with with the third sip. You start to get some nuances and the dryness comes through all perhaps another flava comes through. Now. We've already started on your second side. So which I I'm going to say compared to social scrumptious is like it's refined brother it is. It's been filtered, and it's a lot less complex in the flavor profiles. But what's this? This is just called standard old social cider. You can join the kind of social side social cider, and then our tagline for social science or is joined the conversation. Okay. And so, yeah, I, you know. Yeah. I mean, I there's almost a little little bit of in aroma of that apple peel of something. Like that. This little crystal that kind of stuff, I'm not sure if I'm right saying, but that's what I work scanning that comes into mind. Skin the game. It's right. So. Love the old English start black humor. I love it. I love it. But anyway, sorry. No, no worries. Yes, we got two very nice. What I would call table side as if you will that you could attend drink with any meal. Cider is very refreshing. And it's to me it's a drink for the summer. But obviously you're open in the winter. We drink cider year round. There are a few versions of cider that kind of are a little more warming. And that's why we're going to get to our next one. We take our our standard cider, we add cherry juice concentrate that let that ferment out again by adding additional sugar as Chuck was saying sugar is nothing more than food for yeast will that cherry juice. It's Morrissey cherry juice, which is another bitter cherry, not it's not like a sweet Bing cherry typically used pine making Jerry Pye Sherry cherry pie. And that's also use that for winemaking as well. When I make Jerry wine that ferments out to complete dryness again. And then we take the cider and put it in freshly dumped whiskey barrels. So what I'm trying to do is create similar? What I would call a Manhattan style like Manhattan cocktail. So you'll idea whether you have no idea whenever have one in my life. I I had one. Are you related to Pinocchio? Seriously. I haven't had never had a Manhattan 'cause I don't drink hard liquor. Hardly. Well, a maybe tell has has whiskey, and you know. Cherry, and of course, our sour and phys. Hitters hitters if you will. We'll well. My my point now some samples. Yes. Take a real quick break if you'll banking side, what is your favorite music to listen to all I I just put I put on Pandora. Station. I like. All right. The believes it is so. Mike has been very kindly pulled out. What looks to be like cherry, cool, Joel. So you telling us about this that you put it into a barrel. So we we take our base cider, which you've just tasted the first two versions of we put that into a nother for mentor, and then add cherry juice concentrate to it and let that reformat and finish the fermentation process after that we put the cherry cider into freshly dumped rive whiskey barrels, and they sat in the what ri- whisky bail barrel for two and a half months while the product was in there picking up all these flavors. So with this cherry cider, Mike has a great description for my got the mind, your let me take a sip versatile. So you get a lot of Nilo from the barrel. Vanilla cherry pie is one of my favorite ways to kind of describe the cider also get a little bit almond from the cherry in the barrel combination there the apples in the background and the cherries pretty dominant too much. I always worry that the bourbon is just going to just gonna kick the ass out of the flavor. This one dozen the Berman is. Yeah, it's there, but it's not like overpowering, which is nice. So let's let's go back. I haven't even sit apps it when I came drug damn let me go back to the aroma. You're a good ura. Good sniffer. Okay. We continue saying these things. Okay. What I agree with Mike? There's vanilla. And then there's at Allen kind of Garrett during the cherry itself is kind of subdued. I would say it and not much coming out of the barrel into their own. A little bit of that would is there, but not I was expecting more. So you think that it's more of the whiskey? Yes. I think it's more of the whiskey. Yes. All right. Cool. Do we have customers coming in? Oh, okay. I just want to point out that we all recording. This whilst you're open. Yes. Mike has the dash off and service customers about an expression Nelson. So anyway, I'm going to sit this now tell us how and why you wanted to make something like this because I don't think I've really tasted anything like this before. Well, as a home brewer amateur winemaker were allowed to experiment. I mean, you do whatever you think you want to do, and you can certainly be creative with all of this. I have my original batch was I made a batch of cherry wine and aid apple cider. And you know, I'm kind of sitting there. Drinking the cider. And I opened the bottle customers Mike from Stockholm. Yes. That is my hey, Mike from stock homes. We'll give you a plug that. We don't have bell know, ding, ding down in Geneva. Go to snuggle. Wait a minute. Hold on a second along and the customer is Mike from stock homes. Belmont. When you got home someplace. All right. Good, man. All right. I'm sitting there. I'm drinking this other new light your. That's what she said. Okay. So meanwhile, drinking my cider, right? And I'm sitting there, and I have this opinion. Come over me. Just take my cherry wine. I poured a little bit into the glass, and I said while this works. I'd like you up a pile like cherry pie. Why can't the to get together and play? I also like Manhattan cocktails, and that's where the whiskey component came in. And I decided to take the cherry cider and let it get happy in a whiskey barrel. The first version of our cherry cider that. We had on tap was not in the whiskey barrel. It went over quite well, definitely a lady pleaser because ladies wanna have something pretty sitting along neck side them. It's enough with me a new. Yeah. That's all I need and. So that was that was the there was little light bulb that went on and just decided to blend I blended a lot of different things. And it's just one of those things have worked out so back to your history back in the annals of time. I think you pop all the Homebrew club or the Chicago business idea or something because that's how you start talking. We we met through do pages. Oldest Homebrew club the urban naves of grain which. We have the past presidents. So I mean, I I started home brewing in the mid nineties making wine shortly thereafter bought the shop in two thousand one. And we've been we've been added ever sons we had a complete renovation in our building and decided to put in a winery and no offense to the beer brewing industry. But you know, we're not trying to compete with all the breweries out there. Well, I think in Saint Charles right now, this is kind of a happening place, and you have got d and g brewing right up the street from me full. You've got river lands over there. Close to Randall. We've got Kumble into Nita Alta coming in. You've got pollyanna coming in. You have a couple engine Eva Penrose. And of course, you have Stockholm saving. Just just see, you know, I loaned him the block and tackling needed to install his whining. Because we're all buddies here. We all worked together, you go you going to learn to block and tackle was. He thought it was a football thing. Right. You play soccer that you might actually do actor actually. That's what ball right? Yeah. Yeah. I real full. Yeah. Right. We're the Hello. Oh, yeah. It's so your history your history on on how how the piffle came to create a Jerry cider. It's just something that that I thought would work, and it certainly did. So take care of my my. Thank you. Go. Get a guest appearance by Mike from Stockholm accidentally thing to get you elegant. Where'd you get that from? It's absolutely the biggest like pan Bill that. So if you're a Kampala gist, you can come down to zero about, oh, it's a school. Yeah. Live over recess over the kids in from the. The country fields. And you know, make sure they make oh my wife picked it up at a garage sale for dollar. Okay. Well, we we have the time gentlemen. Please bell in the Britain talk lot. It's no anything on that. I gotta tell you. All right. So back to this this. Okay. So we have a lot of bourbon barrel. Whiskey baron any type of barrel. Is that aged in the cross beer environment? This is one of the first ones that I tasted with a Sida. And I think that everybody should come along and try this because it even if you don't like side, this is something very different. Yeah. I think that the bourbon barrel actually worked quite well with. It'd be interesting to try it in wine barrels to at some point. But the Burma Baylor definitely certainly willing to play around with different media like that wind barrels. In fact, we do have a batch of cider that's in a. Whiskey that I had I had made. Would Buren totally cleaned out the barrel, and it really doesn't have any whiskey or beer flavor to it anymore, but it did retain some creatures that are making that kind of funky. So there's actually a Pelivan top. And it's it's very farmhouse like, and we're gonna we're gonna probably be blending some of that into some of these other ones to create complexity not only do I want to sell the product to our friends and family. I also wanna have some fun playing around with wiccan achieve with it. And that's what it's all about. I want to say that this is changing my opinion insider, I never had anything like this before I've had some those big commercial houses ciders, and they don't know where near what you have out that the refined beautiful flavors and our Muslim and blend of flavors and all that stuff. I never experienced that before. Thank you, Mark. I'm not trying to get a. A product out and move it. You know, started out the door and three weeks. I'm not, of course, I wanna make money on the product. But I wanna take time and I want to craft a product that's going to be bring it bring it around rave reviews like yours. Thank you. And just make make people aware of the different things. You can do it cider. I have customers come in. And they all I don't like sweater ciders. It's too sweet. They'll they'll try these. And I tell them I just think apple champagne when you taste if you if you get if you think apple champagne, and they're drinking, and you see the expression on their face ninety five percent of the time. It's very happy expression. Five percent of the time. People just don't like ciders. I say, I'm I would be one of those customers say, I'm not really I don't really like ciders. Okay. So I would be about and then after facing this. I I change my opinion. But the reason why you don't like him possibly like for me is because my stomach's those sensitive now. So if ciders otherwise I try to CITIC for me Siddiq with the hall messes me up, these aren't like that we we actually take a winemaking techniques. Our ciders and. Convert the acidity, so it's lactic acid or. Yeah. Yeah. It's malic acid originally, and we converted into lactic acid. And that's what I was talking about earlier. Earlier. I'd yeah. I got it. I I understand. So let me ask a question about different fruits with side is the one that I know is pass. Yeah. That is a Perry and Beck in UK. They used to have champagne Perry which came in little tiny balls with a little pony on the side of it with bubbles coming out of it. And that was the drink. The all the ladies have when they went into the pumps, we'd have a pint besa they'd have a champagne Perry. So have you ever period around? I I have paired a few things together and. I I have made Perry and again. You have to get the payers and kind of juice them out and go ahead and for minute. Just like you would any apple cider. Now. You're not talking about Bartlett pears. You're talking about pairs that are intended for making pear cider Perry. They're not the sweet pairs you want hard crunchy perr similar to an apple. And those are the pairs that. You're you're gonna wanna head at go ahead and make make this type of product from have you tried the Crispin when I first tasted this. I feel like I get a little pair note to it. And it's funny. You should bring up Perry. As old full Ryan that let's hold that thought because we are going to come back. And as I said, we book ended your wonderful side is with the two I brought in knowing nothing about it. So we'll come back in just a second about the same. Do. Okay. So we are back, and we have Crispin which again once again, I know nothing about this place, but it's in Colfax, California and on the front of it. It says made from well, I voice has autism. Reserve unfiltered hod side as you've poured it out definitely on to this scrummed p look like in England ripe. Yep. Made from fresh pressed American apples, okay with Belgian Trappist yeast and pure maple syrup. So when you see pure maple syrup on that, I will to magically think it's going to be a little on the sweet side. We'll pull this out. What do you think you base it? I have tasted it the maple syrup will most likely for meant out, it is a complete leap for metal type of sugar. So I do get a little bit of aroma in the in in the nose on the on the maple now the sweetness that you're getting in here is definitely apple juice concentrate or some type of furnishing formulas it right on the back of the does. Yeah. Okay. That's what I'm that's what I'm getting out of that. He knows his stuff. And by the way, this particular buffalo, which is a bomb size is only two hundred thirty calories for the entire. Oh, wait a minute us for one service. One point eight three survey twelve hours. Okay. So two hundred thirty so. So I don't want. But it says sugars are eighteen grams. I don't know if that's a big grams per serving, so that's exactly one and a half grams. Parents. Okay. So. And we use we use one gram of sugar for entire the entire bottle. This this this this is sweet this is sweet. And I've also say it doesn't have a I can taste the maple drive at the end. I don't know where the Belgian trap yeast comes in Chris. I don't get any Belgian notes while so we have really, but I what I what I do say is it has a very low carbonation. So yeah, I it's really sweet I agree with you guys. It's over sweet for me. But and I get the aroma and flavor of the maple somewhere there. But the Trump is normally shoot give a funky kind of character to whatever you use it for. But I guess you have to have the different kinds of sugar's out of Malta, something you get it big. It's not here. I mean, it it there isn't that much of it. Also, the city is higher in this than any than than any of the other ones cities higher, and you can get that on the back end all of the finish on this. Now, my sweetness will also counter the acidity as well. And that brings us more and more into balance. That's kind of glad we finished with it. Because it leaves the sticky cloying character in your mouth. Your mouth. And if that was the first thing we started with. We'll have to clear that out with a little more of your good stuff. Mark many people may know that you are originally from Finland. Did you know that Finland has a Sida that they call golden cap? Yes. Yeah. I I know that and I never really was big fan of it. So. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well known, but I it's not in my repertoire, put it that way. Virtually all finished cider is produced from ferment. It apple all pad juice concentrate. Mix with water and is not cider as per the traditional description of the drink. That may I present one of my favorite ciders. It's cider boo brute day Normandy. It's French cider from on Normandy, which is the north. Western ended a France, the the what is it? Norman just across the channel the beaches of Nome, and we're going to try this. It's it's an unfiltered unpasteurized cider and. Really funky notes to it. It's what I what I really am achieving to accomplish with my side or making I kind of look up to these guys. So I was looking to find some something like that in I have to say when into Binny's of two surfers, but they didn't really have anything that was too exciting. Now any local. Yeah. I love it. When you put your coke. So one of the things that one of the way you hadn't note that right? What it only had a coke on? It. Didn't have the Harry. Oh it did. Okay. All right. I was I was excited because. Yes. So the local side of producer the has come into a lot of the breweries around here because you can serve science, right? Yes. And the lies in Illinois have changed to make it really favorable for cider makers because they can have their product and all the different breweries, and and I have to say, wow. Hang on a sec that goes when he's pouring picture that get a full this'll sucker goes down. That's the physicist. Heaviest looking of. I see. Longtime. Is carbonated champagne we have to really ever. So. Crispin the Saint finish. It re wrote a good story. But I'll we all agreed that it wasn't the one that we really liked it's Christmas. Probably like a gateway cider for somebody not familiar with siders, and the people that like sweeter ciders it's decent in that respect. It's it's just not where I'm at with the rest of these. So tell us a little bit about this. Normandy side of that you really really like a. Very we got. So there's a lot washing up to do. That's fine. You you're gonna find that this cider is. Unfiltered unpasteurized. Definitely natural natural yeast as well. And. Do they call on this morning? So more you definitely get Canham icies and wild wild east in this cider. Yeah. Watson I'm getting some horse blanket aren't how this is what I want. Make. This is damn holy cow just melts it. This is what I'm teaching trying to achieve. This is definitely the now. Okay. All right, guys. This is the first time that I have really said yes this smells, like a whole splendid. But I think it actually smells like a whole stable because you're getting on the blanket you getting a little on. Northbound horse. So how does? How does it? How does the how does this then balance when somebody gets us, and smells it and says, they haven't taste. Holy crap. This is horrible smell. But I'm gonna say well it it's kind of like. Certain cheeses cheese. You don't eat what limber Limburg with your notes. You just eat it. It's good hit tastes great money. God. This is good would not know that this was not a potential say's on farmhouse ales of Belgian e thing this has got mobile jn in it than the supposed- Trojan trap is yeast that doesn't it? Yeah. Absolutely. And this is the most complex. We have tasty today for for sure eight has all sides of the book, I think in this one. And that's why it's interesting to me a new experience one more time. So do you get many of this because I do, you know, if people listen to this? They wanna come in and want try this. Yes, we carry this in also on the taste the sell sheet, the tasting notes this type of product will seller. Probably for up to twenty twenty two twenty twenty two thousand sixteen. Oh, this is twenty six. Yeah. Where are we now? Ninety three years old. It can go another three years and we'll develop complexity get a little more funky. But just like anything else wants it reaches its peak drink it, you know. I've seen I've seen so many sellers from friends of mine long gone that they never had a chance to drink their products and well drink it while you're here. So tell us tell us a little bit about the other products, you have here at broken bricks because to get this all might rush off to cooler. There's obviously a shitload balls in balls of this. Oh for sure. And there there's actually another friend gets. I mean different distributors plus plus the best Belgian distributors in the in the state brings this one. We'll give bring mall. Yeah. We also have another French side, or that's going a little more funky up that funky trail. We carry that as well. The same price point there. Fifteen dollars a bottle well worth the money as far as I'm concerned for something like this. So you'll paying these days for. Be is that come in Balmas you'll paying anywhere from ten to fifteen twenty dollars for some of the period styles. So, you know, fifteen bucks for ball of this. Oh, how low wait a minute. We have the wonderful Boris. So tell us about Boris Bush, speak speak. Oh, he's told us himself. Well, that's wonderful. Boris in case. People wanna come down the bro. Bricks is the the little dog. He was a cooking food cockapoo, and he likes to suck on wall. Oh, corks. Oh, he's gone. Okay. You the call. I gave him the court. So we've got a broken broken bricks is a winery and combined retail shop like a fermentation emporium. We have our Homebrew shop we have production wineries cider. We have a tasting bar. We have beer and wine bottle shop to take take these lovely items home with you, you can sit here and drink just any just about anything. We have in house Michael glass and fill it up. And hopefully, you'll be a happy person. One of one of my goals with the beer that we bring in. Here are drafts are constantly changing. We have eight draft beers. We haven't potential for four draught ciders right now, we only have three. But I I hope that every time you you come in here as long as you don't come in every day, you find out that we have a different draft beer for you to try, and we will there's enough craft breweries in the car. Entry and in our state alone for us to achieve that for years to come. So tell us about our tap handles. What do we what do we try to the questions? I'm sorry. So are tap handles. We were always we're we're in a town that has a lot of sports bars. And we'll get a lot of walk ins from the street. And they're not too adventurous. They're gonna look for something very classic and easy drinking. So I'll never carry Bud Light Miller lite. I'm going to carry beers. That will maybe trying convert someone over to craft beer drinking. So right now, we've got a few beers. Actually that would help convert a Maccabi drinker over. We've got too much Cologne from crystal lake which is a close Kohl style to figure that out. We have dovetail out of Chicago. And they have a hell that's quite nice. And then another one that is kind of a step up. But it's still it's still a beer that will will convert the craft beer drinker over we've got a church my back from church street right now, you know, how. And you go. Hell's broken out ELS bell? What else you go? So those three will will be the the ones that help to bring those kind of beer drinkers over. But we also go seasonal. So the reason we're kinda heavy on on lighter styles like that. It's coming into spring. I'm excited to drink lighter beers. So that's kind of why we we have that right now we have a Belgian tap handle. So we have a beer tap handle dedicated to Belgian beers Shimane chimera ready made in Belgium. Yes, exactly. We have Shamir read we've had Rosenbach grand cru, Saint Bernardus few others that I can't remember in my head delirium read coming up next, and we we really try and support local breweries so out of all the beers on our taps other than the Belgian beer there's one beer out of state right now. Elision which I don't try and carry too many macro beards. This this pretty good. So it's a it's a pale made with black lines. And I also have another macro beer, but it's bourbon county midnight, orange lack land black line. Yes. Low though, they sound good. But we'll if you saw picture of you would never think to eat them either. Okay. So they look like death law. That reminds me we were gonna talk about coming to the end here. But I want to jump in Utah. It's about airings. So let's get back to side. This side of FRANZ. I think would pay absolutely deliciously with anything. But I think I'd prefer to pair it with cheese and meat. So something shock Tarim at you. -tory would be wonderful. So typically ciders pair very well with cow's milk cheese. Hopefully unpasteurized where you can get a little more flavor. Here in the United against the goats in the street. Nothing. But it's just it's just the flavor profile that that would go well with that type of cheese blue cheese. Nice high funky flavor would complement the funky flavor that we're getting right here out of this French side or that we've got black pepper corn cheddar is another cheese that you can bring the the carbonate crystals. You get an cheddar to give you that component with the black pepper corns plan off again, the funky nece that we got out of our sight, or that's this one here. And then something a little softer cheese. Like, maybe Monterey, Jack that would work more more with the mouth feel and the carbonation in the cider kind of breakdown that greenness and the cheese and that would pair out. Well, of course, Taku Torri. I I would think any nice. Maybe Serano ham or something along those lines. I know Mark is very familiar with the one the way the pigs. Eat the ako says round on him. I get it from Spain. It's wonderful it melts in your mouth. You don't have to chew anything. It's a love it. So you do hear you can you obviously don't have a major food. Get snacks. Right. So we didn't do that. Yes. The food that we serve here is pre packaged snacks customer themselves will open it up. Also, if a customer wants to bring in a sandwich or a pizza order a pizza. That's that's fine. We're fine with that. We don't we don't serve food, but we more than we welcome it. So it sounds like Saint Giles is going to have not only great breweries. But it's going to have a little something different with the. Wine and the Sida. Is there any way that you can do collaboration with burry that could do like a side of? Yeah. It's actually called the bracket. And I've I've been playing around with that idea since we've started this is long as we have fifty one percent of the product being Honey that can be our product. And as long as the brewery has fifty one percent of the product being beer Mult beverage that can be there. So we can easily collab- with a brewery and make a very unique product because you don't see a lot of brag it's out there. If anyone does know what? Brag it is. It's basically a beer combined with a immed- and very tasty to very unusual. I've had any one in my life, and I enjoyed it. So you've got an opportunity here guys to go to any one of these breweries and. Take care of collaboration. Brag because I think that would be absolutely three contrairement. I think it would be delicious as well. As far as our wines are wines. We do have some test batches of wine, we we did get our license late in the year. We missed the harvest, but we'll be releasing some small volume wines at the end of summer early fall where they going to be in the white red to what I have a no white and red. I have a. Claret if you will which is a lighter red do kvamme Z. Yes. Died in a barrel of clarity drowned in barrow flower good way to do that. Why took him three days to die because I'll keep going out to the bag. No seriously. He did actually died abou- with our. So we have a. We got some grapes before we got our license soul. I had to process the red grapes in turn them into juice, and I froze them and waited for that day to happen. When we got our license. Got the license I pulled him out of the freezer and three days later. We started fermenting them. So it's more of a even though it's a dark red grape. It's more of Rosie dark Rosaiah or claret. And it the grape is Norway. It's a French hybrid that's grown here in Illinois. We also sycamore Illinois. We also have a more sycamore was it does this the science earth. Science has life offers more in sycamore to sycamore. It says all right, and it offers grapes as well. And we have we have a field blend of white grapes. Niagara no sprints sprit, Swanson, white and one other one that I can't remember off the top of my head will come to me. That's why you could've said anything. Said okay, we'll probably start. We've done our cold conditioning on these wines and dropped out the Terek titrate s-, not titrate tartaric acid drop that out the red is about ready to bottle now and takes about three months for it to overcome bottle shock. I still have to get some labels approved from cola. We talked about them earlier gotta get some labels approved. Once that's happened. I can release the wine. So have you thought about bottling aside? Yes, we have already bottled some of the cherry cider. It's sitting in the bottles. I'm waiting on getting a label for that. Labels, send a label in that. You don't like I they'll get rejected. Then you send the winning you like I've had my labels approved. But an N recipes approved. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you get you get they want an explanation of one think what does this or whatever it is. All right. I'm going to we're going to wrap up. I'm gonna I'm gonna just off the guys the guys at group question. Delight side is now guys changed my mind. I like, Ed ciders. Okay. If I can be the Frenchman, if I can be more specific, you know, the ED's ciders and friends for good and also your first English one. But the California one got me thumbs down. So I've been awhile sixty four thousand dollar question. But also gonna might because I know he's going to know where are you? What's your phone? This is broken bricks fermentation emporium relocated at two twenty five west main street in downtown Saint Charles you can contact us at info at Homebrew shop LTD dot com or give us a call at six three zero three seven seven one three eight Ed, Mike. Mike, what Brittany okay? Came in with this week. We have a Brittany of. Yeah. There you go britney's over at the g two. Yeah. Can also follow us and Facebook and Instagram or Instagram handle is broken bricks underscore side, ary what's Instagram? For the hip case. With that guys. We raise that glosses. I say to Chuck good night for me. And it's good night from him and shit. Okay. A winker. No crank. Oh, it's a trank arrayed. The winking is in China. That's a big tunnel. Were there? You know what I'm doing that beside that? Ed Sida house rules there on in that side of house. Now, stop recording. Oh, sure. Okay. So we got a little bonus bit on the end of here. Because Mark, of course, having traveled across the country stops off in brings in great biz. So he stopped off. He's what thank you. Mark that good man, he stopped off in Phoenix Arizona, and he has one from the gold water brewing company, and you say that cold water, Barry Goldwater residential candidate. That. Yeah. Okay. This gold water bills. Nur four point six percent have been like ten barrel. Brew house out there. Very nice operation unique as serving system the coming off the ceiling hanging down, and where we're all the tap handles are, and it looks very modern or whatever in its own way. And they make a lot of good beers dais. It pretty much all of them. And it it's located downtown Scottsdale, which is an eastern side of Phoenix. And and it's right downtown where the walking area and all that kind of stuff, and they have a couple of restaurants in area you can bring food in. But anyways. Yes, stop fiddling with it and opening opening. Okay. Excuse me, sir. Thank you. Also. So you. You picked a big crowd of it. And it's cooled one hundred Donna pills. Correct. Another okay. So this was can on for eighteen now. Mock we know that you've brought back some biz with you that have got bug it up inside the can somehow. So we hope this is not going to be one of. Yeah. I get this. I yeah. Yeah. I know that we get this cold. So it's being fold ever since I left a burry. So I try to do good job and. Joe I pretty much all of their business. All good. But I like. Yes. Like his. So just to give me a little bit of history on this. The Goebel brewing company, family owned and operated believe it or not. And they have thirty years of brewing history knowledge by don't it doesn't actually say when they opened it up. But I'm going to assume that it was fairly recently. But who knows they do all sorts of different beers. And they got really cool names, which you would expect in Phoenix things like desert rose cactus CEO, which I wonder if it's made from cactus. Yes. There is some cactus in an it. It's it's one of those funky things that I was an all excited about, but it goes for the locals, maybe. So you guys real pills experts? Because obviously, you you have a pills judge street, you'll have Alice and mock, I think that you had a name put onto that recipe. Well, yeah, Giacomi would develop it together. And he he finally perfect it. So so we that's that's the bills are I'd like to drink eight has great following outside Chicago area to is it in Phoenix. And yes, there it was in Phoenix. But they drank it all. Okay. Good. So who's had a chance to sit this smell it. Whatever. My mic is got some some facial expansions. We're gonna make this really quick smells, really good. I haven't fifty. But I'm impressed by the Maddix there. The Mike what what's like N be more specific on? Like. It's got this. So you said it had cactus in it. No. This one does. Okay. It was another beer straight pills trait. Bill Maher is it maybe. It's got a really nice though. They don't have a system. Whatever's going on like Dr bird air for about half an hour. I read out. Get notes a stronger in flavor. Yeah. Nice day, hops, clean, clean lager profiles. It's more of a mall, and that any animal to get the color dark color is dark. But if the animal gives you that strawberry character that that that's way, come from easily. But it it easy drink and very soft bills are to me. No. Well, I mean, you guys got. Covers the ahead keeps rebuilding nice Belgian lace on the you know, what this. This would be the perfect via to drink. At is a cubs spring training game. Right. I have to say that some people from Chicago went to spring training out there. And they went to exactly this brewery to do that. Well, I would go to spring training. But seeing that I would rather go to a brewers game. I mean after all we are brewers. Oh, okay. Okay. I'm gonna come to you for the final summary on this little puppy because yo- the pills expert, a final summary was is that I could definitely drink a lot of these black every really want to know is it the actual perfect pills. Now, in my opinion. If I were earth things I would change about this the finish. There's a little bit. It's a little bit of like a Resnick character from the hop in the finish it. I mean, it's just not a lot. But it's just a little bit probably wanna get rid of that. And. Other than that. It's pretty much spot on. I would say I'm not finding as clean and Crispus some pills. And it's not as cold as I would like to drink. I reckon if this was a little bit colder. How's that fridge doing might? You put it in the fridge then. Yeah, we did. Right. We know a little thick thick and sweet might wanna back off a little bit. However, it's definitely drinkable. If I don't know why I don't know why they call it the one hundred dollars pills box that must be a story behind that. And I don't know what it is. The go water brewing company is located at thirty six eight north Scottsdale road in Scottsdale. Arizona, right. Correct. That it's not Phoenix. That's why I said in the beginning, you if you listen to me, it's downtown Scottsdale. And that's where here. Yeah. Where they have all the shops and stuff people go there and park their guards and walk around, and this is one of the attractions in that area. All right. So if you're in Phoenix, go to Scottsdale. Go downtown. We'll around I think that's a great idea. And right now, it's it's my favorite beer because my favorite beer in the whole world is the one that's in my hand. And with that we're going to say, all right? This kid south bonus review. Let me go. Gives me Paul. That. John k. But. But point.

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"This is corona virus four, one, one, the latest covid nineteen. Info and new hotspots just the facts for September twenty fifth. Twenty twenty. You officials urged member nations to move quickly to slow the latest wave of infections and try to avoid a repeat of broad lockdowns. The EU health commissioner said, some countries are reporting more cases now than they did during the earlier pandemics peak in Europe. If you'd like to go to China foreigners holding certain kinds of visas and permits will be allowed to do that starting next week. The new regulation lifts a months-long blanket suspension covering most foreigners other than diplomats and those in special circumstances. Health. Inspectors found safety shortcomings at seventy seven New York nursing homes during the pandemic including basic infection control violations like not having staff wear masks or wash their hands about six homes were cited for failing to isolate infected patients from other residents. The virus is hurting colleges in more ways than health issues. The National Student Clearinghouse Research, Center says. In. Romans has dropped two and a half percent from last fall. The decline was especially sharp for community colleges down seven and a half percent. In Saint Charles Missouri it's the movie footloose made reality. The city is banning dancing after eleven pm restaurant bar and club operators have been informed of a temporary ban on music activities. The top ten counties with the highest number of recent cases per capita according to the New York Times Woodward, Oklahoma Cacho Texas Emmons North Dakota, Anderson Texas Edwards Texas Cheyenne Kansas Frio Texas. Pony Kansas. South Hampton Virginia and Levada Texas. There are two million, five, hundred, forty, thousand, three, hundred, Fifty, eight active cases in the United States the current top ten states by number of active cases Florida California. Georgia Arizona Virginia Maryland Missouri Texas Alabama, and South Carolina. The. Five states with the most daily new cases per capita over seven days are North Dakota South Dakota Wisconsin. And Arkansas. The. Retransmission rate is currently highest in Washington and Wyoming a big spike in those two states with numbers around one point three four then comes Colorado Missouri and Rhode Island while the lowest retransmission is found in Ohio Hawaii South Carolina California, and Mississippi. There have been a total two, hundred, two, thousand, seven, hundred, sixty, two deaths in the US reported as Kovic related with a current national fatality rate of two point, nine, five percent. The states with the most new deaths reported as Kovic Related Florida One, hundred, seventy, two, Texas. One, hundred, thirty, eight, California, Eighty, nine, Georgia forty, nine, north, Carolina Forty Tennessee thirty, five, Arizona thirty four. Illinois. Thirty. Missouri Twenty, nine and Ohio twenty-seven. Globally there are seven, million, four, hundred, Ninety, eight, thousand, one, hundred, and one active cases. There are three hundred, three, thousand, sixty, four new cases around the world in the last twenty, four hours against a high of three, hundred, twelve, thousand, one, hundred, thirty, five on September eleventh. The five countries with the most new cases India eighty, five, thousand, nine, hundred, nineteen, United States forty, five, thousand, three, hundred, fifty, five, Brazil thirty, two, thousand, one, hundred, twenty, nine, France Sixteen, thousand, ninety, six, and Argentina, thirteen, thousand, four, hundred, sixty, seven. There have been nine, hundred, seventy, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, two deaths worldwide down thirteen percent over fourteen days for the latest updates subscribe for free to corona virus four one one on your podcast APP or ask Your Smart Speaker to play the corona virus four one, one podcast sound that brands.

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Popie Billeaud JB Mouton, Builders Since 1915

"The. This is John swift. And you're listening to discover Lafayette, a podcast dedicated to the people and rich culture of Lafayette. The gateway to south Louisiana. Discover Lafayette is recorded in the offices of raider solutions. A technology company located in the light center in Lafayette raider offers a complete fleet of IT solutions for businesses of all sizes, raiders motto is you just want it to work. We understand if you're wondering if writer can help your business. Please visit Reiter solutions dot com. I'd also like to thank our premier sponsor IBM Bank for its support of this podcast. Founded in eighteen eighty seven IB Bank is the largest Bank based in Louisiana and is headquartered right here in Lafayette with three hundred twenty nine combined locations throughout the south. They offer the resources of national Bank with the personal touch of a community Bank. For more information, please visit IBM Bank dot com, Robert -bio who many of, you know, is popey is our guest today. He serves as president of j b MU Thanh the construction company established by his great grandfather. John Birch Mun Mouton in nineteen. Fifteen JV MU Thanh has built, many of our communities. Most iconic, landmarks schools, churches and medical buildings. A few, you may be familiar with are the light center. Saint pie is Catholic church in elementary school ASA's lower skull CG on the Iberia Bank tower and river ranch and car dealerships, such as moss BMW in kiosk. Sterling, they've also renovated, Saint John's cathedral, the academy of the Sacred Heart. The Cajun dome Iberia Bank, tower downtown, and Saint Charles college grandkid toe. So pope via we have a lot to discuss today. Welcome to discover Lafayette. Yeah, I wanna put an applaud for the guy who's made our podcast possible, Chris raider. We're taping at Chris raiders offices with Jason Sikora in the light center, which you and your company built it seems like there's so many iconic buildings as I said, in the intro that were made possible by you, your family and your team. Why don't we go back and let you start talking about the history of? J. B matan. JP Moutoa was a form boy who struggled to make a living at forming and ended up going into work as a carpenter. First job being central school. Which is now the site of the old post office and federal court building downtown was his first job. Not sure of the year, but not too long after that he went into business with form self in nineteen fifty and started adding onto homes, building homes, and doing minor work. Let me ask you about that. He wasn't he knew carpentry, but he wasn't trained as a I guess, a professional carpenter was he, he was a former in his early days, anybody on the form, jack-of-all-trades. So he brought that he was looking for work, and he applied at the school that was under construction for work. And they told him to come back tomorrow with his coping saw. So he went as a free thinker. He was to the hardware, store and bought a coping saw on credit, not knowing what it was to be used for. He acts the person selling to them, what it was for. And they explain that was to cut crown moldings any went to work on that school. And from there. He, he started his career as a builder as a residential builder at pro Shiites. Right. Right. I know in the early days. I've read that a Hays town worked with him at an early stage. Can you maybe talk about that? That's the conic I'm using that word iconic a lot. But these are such big names in the industry is in towns, own words, his father fair, that he was going to be an artist. Okay. And had recently done some work at a store, building shelves. I wish J Moutome built them. So to open his sons. Is as a hitch downs is. He added onto his house and got haste town to draw. The plan for his daddy's house, and J B, Mujtaba built, the house, their app that JP Muto hard Hayes town to do other work for them and Hayes town. In a letter he had written to my great uncle Francis. In the early eighty said that was his first commission was far J B mood town. That's amazing because he's known for his a lot of his commercial work. But of course, in this area, his residential architecture Jessica's outstanding so your great-grandfather was an early part of his career, always in my career was hoping that have enough petunia build a home for Mr. town. But it never materialized Klein at one time who had drawn a house and was ready to build it. But he decided not to do so, but that's one of my regrets. I guess this. Well, yeah. You got a lot to share. So let's go back to your, Greg grandfather, he started out as a. Residential homebuilder any opened up in nineteen fifteen right before World War One. So for quite a while he was building homes. Is that correct? And it was. It was somewhat struggling back there. He had six or seven children, and it was a lot lot to defeat and educate the whole family, and then his son, joined him sometime in the thirties is oldest son, twenty early thirties, Bill move town, and they kept building houses, and occasionally would Bill commercial building most of the commercial building of those days with governmental buildings. They didn't have the thriving. Private sector buildings that we experience today. It was primarily governmental building. So they built a lot of schools in those types of projects back win so in the nineteen thirties, I don't know if it was during the public works administration, whatever, but I saw that they branched out into commercial real estate commercial building. So that's when things really took off. Yes, it did. They mention they also did a lot of churches those always been bear special to family. But that's when it everything took off up until the start of World War Two and building materials marash and the business had to cease operations during that period. The youngest son who was working part time for him in a counting went into the service Francis move town. And as older son Bill moot, toned took some of the quit, they had. I think it was a concrete mixer. Went to fort Polk to work with some folks that were building fort Polk. So after the war, they re restarted the business again and got back up and running, how, that's how JV MU tone in his two sons. It was called J Moutoa Suns at. Son initially been son joined him. And so, that's, that's a history of how they got to that period of time. Right. Right. So after the war wended things really pick up again. Do you know that part of the history about some maybe some buildings or? Yes. The, my dad was a trained civil engineer. He finished his education after the war, and nineteen forty nine he went to work for his grandfather, with his two uncles, and they would do commercial work schools. At the time was quite populous matter of fact, one of my dad's first jobs was a contemporary design building by as a town on the airbase in Erie. Okay. It's a semicircle building and that type stuff. And then it was just a lot of schools in a lot of those type of of, of the year. Right. And then a know in our opening I was talking about some of the newer buildings. But what you may be just named some of the, the large buildings. I mean I mentioned chase tower which used to be FNB. Tower, but a lot of the, the buildings that we all take for granted have been constructed by j b mood Thanh. Breath, you in business that loan you certainly should I guess, to say? We had a lot of the schools that we did in nineteen fifty eight we built because all in high school, which was pretty big mouth stone in our company's history. And we built Crawley high school canco highschool. We added onto Lafayette high Woodvale coma high school remodeled Alamo Faulk and McGovern and built many other schools built to school in half away, Louisiana. That north of Ginny. Okay. That was rather interesting in this one of the fun things that we like about building. It was an old school two stores school where you see the. Pictures, and the school burnt down struck by lightning and toward on everything, but the front door, and we built the new school around around the front door in Hatheway, and it's nice very rural community farming community, but the people that was just so I'm so sweet and appreciative because in like in so many smoke communities, I hope at the community. So we did a lot of schools over the over the years commercial buildings. Into a big milestone in our career was win. The private sector started building here you mentioned. What's now the chase tau was was one of our. First buildings that we built utilizing a process, that's not called Seymour process in which we work as a team member with architecture owners to Bill the project. That's how about half of the work today. We, we build is engaged even for the public sector. Now that was in the mid nineteen seventies was nineteen Seventy-three. We built that one. And we went on to build a even building Griffin hall at U L. We built. Mid sixties, actually, we added onto stores to DuPree library, and my dad would always brag that he did that without getting a book wit, but it's quite an accomplishment here. He did we, we built the airport in the nineteen early nineteen sixties and we remodeled it in the late nineteen eighties. So we've had histories with a lot of different buildings following the chase towers project, yet was in a boom here in Lafayette, all companies would here was unbelievable. And we got into building a lot of apartment complexes back in those days, which we hadn't previously built we by shadows country here country Harris ethics Lutely been a lot of office buildings for him. Which used to be the Chevron building across from a k Dan Amal? We built some I guess, more notable buildings at the stone energy building have been in that God. Just that's one of my favorites. Just a kid building that. The park power building on the corner of college loan and south college extension. Building. Lante building. And we built a bunch of bunch of buildings in, in during that period up until things crashed in nineteen eighty two fact nineteen eighty-two we wind blowing. About three hundred and fifty people in one thousand nine hundred eighty five we employ twenty eight. Gosh, it was just devastating to, to, to our career. And as a young family man myself having young children. And that was not much opportunity here at all. Now I moved here in eighty three oil and gas work attorney. I mean by, then, I guess, by eighty six really bottom downs. Yes. It it bottomed up. But it was very slow coming back. He saw I because people weren't building construction and building lags economic recovery by about a year to two years. That's just the cycle of it. So that, that was my mind. You mental times for us. It was very learning once kidded my dad that. I had a learn more in the last year during those periods at one time then all the formal education he had. Offered me. In the bible, but it was good times of we must have lost a lot of talent there that left either left town or just got into disappointed. What about challenges that we have always been a very impli oriented organization place, great value employees? And we had so many qualified employees that we had no opportunity for. And then what do you do? Do you keep the Owens that have been servicing? You so long ordeal. You keep the young ones that are going to be a future. That was a monumental decision. We had to make an our answer was, we did both. And we've got the older ones and the very younger ones you were promising and the very young ones today are the ones who are now represent team in the field. Yes, we have a tremendous longevity of law -ployees with our firm. Some of them worked almost entire careers only with us. And so that, that's, but I never realized it until I on the business on my own the hardest part of the business is you obligation to employees. And in slow times it's just very difficult to have to send a man home when you know, they need work. There's just no opportunity there. We running the company at that point, or was it? You. That was in the mid to late nineteen eighties. The business resume by my dad at the time and shortly after that, I bought into it, I would have bought in early, but there was no opportunity to buy as it was. No. -tunities obviousness, and bought them out overseer shares of time. And that's that's how I came back while the business. I'm curious being one of seventeen children. Do you have two older sisters and then you're the third line fourth fourth in line should the other family members? Were they wanting to go into the construction business? Never encouraged any of us to do anything other than get an education fun. What we wanted to weren't really told this is future. But as a young kid, I never wanted to do anything, other than build just my DNA, and he never encouraged me to go into the business at all. And but in fact, I was the only one my older brother worked for short period of time. And I ended up on the business by myself, one of my younger brothers went through the craft end of the business working for carpenter while now, works in office with this project manager, but he he never he told me as father in law had told him let let your children be what they wanna be. He said my daddy wanted me to be a lawyer. And I don't like practicing law. Yeah. Yeah. Dotted in my head did that matter of fact, my son, I learned that from my dad. Who's in business with me today, once asked me, why Nevin courage into go into business and I told them the same thing. My dad told me. That's interesting. Yeah. Which more parents were like that. Letting their children. Find their way I've read and I can just tell from talking with you, not only do you love construction, but you love the science of building. And I wanna put in the reputation you have for those up. Sure everyone knows. But you have a reputation for being spot on in your estimating the cost of a project, but it's because you, you love what you do. And I'm sure you investigate thoroughly. Can you talk about that? I mean you studied this in college. So, I guess, to sum it up in a few words, and we tell clients that, that we tell them that you may pay for the building. But it's always ours. We feel about it. And we, we aspire to be builders today, so much of the construction work is done by people managing it, that don't have the building skills. My dad was a builder. He was a, a very building was an engineer train. But he would he very strongly believe in buildings as was my nature. And so back in the late eighties and early nineties when I started coming into a management role. I realized what was happening to our industry, and we have always aspired to try to track people to us that have the building skills in. Opportunity in skills that you just can't teach. You can you have at don't have it. You know, you know, when you will young if you could take part and low more and put it back together. You have to build a skill or if you women a woman, and you knew how to so y- understand how to fit, and then piecing and making things work, and it's just an innate given skill that some people have, and we've tried to find those people nurture Manab is nece to, which makes us who we are today. So you're comparing that to maybe just having the business of getting things built those look at the core. The value of what's being made. Okay. Yeah. The, you know, the litmus test is will this with this particular element of the building stand the test of time we challenge ourselves and the designers to trying to build the best building that we, we know how to. Use the, the experience and skills. We have to show that it will will last as long as you can. I was looking online. I wanted to mention to no, you handle the renovation of the hub city Ford showroom, which was just a masterpiece and very close with the Citron's. And I know my neighbor, Kevin goson was an architect on that. You've worked with some really fine architects in our community, which you name a few of those, maybe some of the works that you've partnered mentioned, Kevin, we did several projects for Kevin hub city for being one of, which is rather interesting because it's not a prototype building. I don't know how the Citron's got away from getting away from the big blue emblems and Ford logos on buildings, but they did and it was a fun project to do, but, but Kevin, we did. We were amount Fatima school for him. We did say lady Queen of peace church rebuilt. Yes, we did the ESA lower skull in lower school on college saloon road for which is really fun belting. And but with worked with a lot of ver- talent to architects, we worked for nearly every architect and the community here we did a lot of work years ago, Kevin's dad, Gerald, Gerald, who was in a partnership, Donna, rook, gas and architects. We worked with the firm at the time was Gigiri, basically Perkins architect. We did a whole bunch of buildings for and Bara, Don Breaux partners. I can't drawn a blank right now. But we we've, we've always prided ourselves with being able to work from a different people. It's a team effort building a team effort. It's not an individual effort. It takes a team owner architect contractor to really develop a project as it should be built and thinking about the longevity of your firm, and they commitment to not only excellence, but making sure that the client gets what they wanted and that it's safe as you were talking about. So your son, Stewart a now is you'll be looking at him. I guess is a successor one day and that'll be the fifth generation in, I didn't realize 'til I was researching your family popey that it's very rare for a company to make it really passed the second generation. It's very rare to be going into fifth generation of leadership down the line. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean you've already talked about your values. But would you would you talk about that? The importance of this on a partner with me right now. And I've my career I've had which in partnership with my dad and now Stewart an apartments, which is a business relationship. I enjoy very much. I'm very fortunate. He has the passion. He has a passion for the business. And you know we'll. Just continue continue it on. I was prepared and would do it in a heartbeat. If. Any of my children are not interested in the business? Although it you know, it's been in business alone time if they was not a sec suscession to succession to it. I would have shut it down. Not. So it would know our shell with no regrets. I believe that everything in, in life has to answer the time. And sometimes of secessions, and things like that play out at this point, harsh has not played out, but that's just life. That's how life goes, right? What did Stewart studying college stirred studied at? He went to Auburn university and studied construction there. In fact, my Frances son, John, Johnny John mood tone was head of the program over there, so fine fine school. And how after graduate. Eating from Auburn. He went to the university of New Orleans and got a masters degree in business, which is extremely unusual matter of fact and all the people finished in construction programs. I don't can't say I know another one who went on to get a business degree. So he was very ambitious beyond just the construction aspect of it. It's been a great asset top partnership. Right. So speaking of family, one of seventeen what is the size of your family nail with, you know, all the siblings and nieces and nephews, and you'd be sore. It's about twenty eight grandchildren. Madea used to say he had a couple of that were red shirted. Who didn't have children? But it's kind of neat and, and it seems like most grandchildren kinda close, which is really nice really nice right now, we have great rain. My parents have great. Yeah. Gosh, I have family four grandchildren. This few others. So right, right. I'm glad you always make time for family because. Yeah. Sometimes running a business can take over a person's life, and it seems like you've you and your family. Both try to balance that. Do you have any advice for people young people in particular going into two business? If somebody was thinking, I'm intrigued by this. I might wanna study construction management or become a builder. Do you have advice for them? Oh, yeah. And I can't show kids of young people. We take in interns from time to time. I'll always try to give him encouragement. I think the bottom line is to find out what you wanna do. What? If you don't like what you're doing. You're never be successful at find out whatever it is. Sometimes it goes against perhaps what apparent might try to direct their shop, too. But everybody has to find their calling in pursuit. Yeah. That's what I try to instill in young people. Right. And internships are probably invaluable because they might think they wanna go into building construction and find out that it's not really what they wanted or vice versa. Right. Love it ended up loving it. So I guess it's one of the ways we get back matter of fact, a couple years ago, we had one of my wife's cousins who is studying engineering, and Paris. He was from Paris, France. And he came over to do an intern with us, which is very interesting. Yeah. Yes. These speak, France. No, I don't I sure wish I did me too, I've wished that spoke at my whole family mother spoke, French, my dad understood it and growing up. Only time I. Heard French around the houses when they didn't want me to know. Exactly. Yeah. Then, you know you might be getting in trouble or they were talking about something good. This kind of nice and up show. You feel that way that having grown up in this kind of multi culture area. You, you, you know, a lot of the scenes in French, which is just enough. That's right. Popey, we're here with Jason Sikora of writers solutions, and Jason will listen to conversations and he's always got good questions things. I didn't even think to ask, so the last one, I wrote advice for someone that enjoys building. Race. That one, I want to circle back to family. And I'm glad you brought it back up here at the end. Also, thank you for being here. This is awesome. So when you guys get there for the holidays, do you have to rent a hall. Yes. Towards the end, we did mom always mom was always wanted to celebrate every occasion at the house. Of course, we had a big house, but, you know, birthdays ate so much cake growing up. But kids story was later on when she outgrew a house, and they'd be seventy. Of friends and family and friends and boyfriends at a at a Cajun. She would celebrate the big family get together on the Friday after thanksgiving because you didn't have to compete with other in-laws smart, and she rented a hall and at the end of one of the. At the end of the get together told my mother was very self conscious. Mom, this was wonderful. Thank you. But I have a recommendation for next year. And she looked at me, very hesitantly. She said, oh, what's that? I said, you need to put name tags on all these people. That make a lot of sense. Piggybacking off at vice. So for somebody who may be enjoys building, but doesn't know exactly what they want to do, which is probably most couch because these days ago, and they don't really know what they wanna do. What would be a good rounded thing for them to get into it may be engineering or maybe going to a trade school and learning, just general building or. There's a lot of construction programs around that vary from more industrial programs to more building programs to more highway and bridge programs. If they're interested in taking in pursuing that they need to find a school that can can that they would be interested in Louisiana. We had three public universities that teach construction, LSU your lamb and Monroe, which is where I graduated from, and Louisiana tech. And there's quite a few of them when I went into construction, nineteen seventy-two, they probably had less than ten schools in the whole nation. For whatever reason is a profession as it was. There wasn't a construction program. The college educated builders, those days came from me, the architecture are the engineering discipline as did my dad and construction, brought into a lot of the management, the business skills, and those type type things, but my advice to them would be a program, try to get an internship. I'll try to get on with somebody in the building in to make sure it's up and you you'll enjoy puppy, when you hire if I can jump in Jason that when you're hiring, your employees, not necessarily the management here employees that are helping you build these structures. Do you do they need to be certified? We had Natalie harder on recently from the community college. She was talking about all the different types of certifications, what, what type. Of skill level. Do they need to be hard? What I guess is starkly been KOMO of an open shop environment in which they have we take people of all different skill levels, and put them in opportunities and company to grow primarily through mentorships with other people as we recognized talents, desires, from people to want to learn, we give them an opportunity to grow. And that's how we do it, within our, we don't have certification titles other than safety aquaman operation, as far as this overall skill set as a carpenter labor, whatever there's no certification. Excellent in terms of building techniques, how much does technology play into it, and how much of it is really just the classic techniques that have been around for ages. The a lot of it is classic techniques concrete work, that type stuff they are different types of form systems. And all that you can do today think the big thing, that's very in the industry is the material time that we've had historically when I was getting into the industry, even as a kid working on construction jobs, that was brick plaster and glass that was about it. And that was what an architect would call their pallet. Okay today architecture pallets, have these high end what they call ACM panels but just see on all the auto dealerships and just a whole variety of other products. And that's what's changed today is availability of the products and the challenge to us build is to study those pride products and make sure that we can incorporate them and get the longest life. We. Have out of him. Sometimes products come in that in other environments, and haven't been tested in environments, and we as a Bill to try to bet those products out to make sure it products out, so that we can make sure that they're put into our projects as best possible that, that makes a lot of sense, actually of so day-to-day basis, would what's day in the life of a popey is it more management. Or are you out there on the ground? Looking at buildings. I do more the inside work. We do a big portion of our work is supporting our client base and design professionals in design assisting, and telling them how we would recommend to them to design something or do preliminary budgeting, and that's my primarily role today, the day-to-day operations of more closely handled by Stewart and some other folks within how argon is Asian. And I like it experience for me, my age and be able to kind of pick and choose what you wanna do it. Excellent. I, I have a few things here. I know we're kind of running up on time here. So I'll combine these two. Is there any building about or something that you'd like to do that? You haven't done yet. And then Secondly. What's the toughest challenge? Or, or the toughest building that you've done. Okay. The. I had a goal in my career to be able to build a traditional church, and we had an opportunity to do that on Saint pice. So that was, you know, nobody paulie. Anybody bills the traditional church anymore. And that was kind of fulfilling for me to Bill that toughest projects we built. Oof. Stone energy was a very. Interesting project is very detailed project. But we've, I guess one of the most fun ones that we've done. That was technically challenged is. Oh, I guess about eight nine years ago. We were amounted, Saint Charles college in Greg. and stork restoration in which we were trying to match details to keep it within the historic consequence, so that was shrimp detail because we had to tear off every window and rebuild it as it was built with a sash balances three hundred windows and the air conditioning, every thing. So that was a very challenging it was fun, fun to Bill, and it was great people to work for owned by the Jesuit outer. But that was one of the more difficult ones. Excellent excellent getting popey, thank you for being Jan things me. Let me. Enervate popey I just came off a silent retreat at Saint, you know, in the college Jesuit spirituality centre, and the rooms are so simple. And I saw that the windows don't open, you know, we're not supposed to open them. They do. Right. But as you lay in bed, you know, you're in the simple, you know what it looks like it's simple room with just a bed, and the chair and the doused, but everything is pristine in the ceiling grade in the lights are all new, and the everything works perfectly. It's comfortable and quiet and it's so conducive to finding your, your place you know, going with ban. So when are when I read you did that? And the academy's the gallery, I guess, those are tricky projects a lot of fun. Two hundred year old building. Yeah. A lot of fun. Yeah. Have we asked what you thought we would? Is there anything that you wanted to say, covered it? Yeah. I, I wanna encourage people to look up J B moot. Thanh look on the website and see the the beautiful structures that have been built. I mean, we're right here in the light center that you belt across the street CGI. I mean, there's so many examples around a Katyusha, but. Robert popey. Oh, thank you for your contribution having Fiat, and thanks to our listeners. We appreciate your support. You can go to our website. Discover Lafayette dot NATs to find this interview, and all of our interviews, also look for us on itunes, which is apple podcast, Google play Stitcher anywhere, you get your podcast and please share the word. We're trying to build this archive of historical data people that make our region, great such as popey, thank you for listening on Jan swept.

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Beau Beaullieu: New Iberia Business Leader Enhancing the Lives of Others

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Beau Beaullieu: New Iberia Business Leader Enhancing the Lives of Others

"The. This is John swift. And you're listening to discover Lafayette podcast, dedicated to the people and rich culture of Lafayette, the gateway to southeast Yana today's podcast is being recorded in the offices of writer solutions raider creates and maintains technical strategies for businesses of all sizes across the country as well as right here in Lafayette functioning is their complete IT department. Raiders motto is you just want it to work. We understand if you're wondering if writer can help your business, please visit Reiter solutions dot com. I'm very proud to welcome IB Bank. As discover Lafayette's premier sponsor founded in eighteen eighty seven Iberia Bank is the largest Bank based in Louisiana and is headquartered here in Lafayette with three hundred twenty nine combined locations throughout the south. They offer the resources of national Bank with the personal touch of a community. Bank Iberia banks supports educational, cultural and business development efforts. The make a difference in the many communities they serve including sponsoring this podcast. For more information, please visit Iberia Bank dot com. Our guest today is Bo Bo Yang a partner in co source financial group that he founded in two thousand one Bokhary eights comprehensive retirement plans that meet the needs of business owners and their executives a native of south Louisiana, Bogue, graduated from Ellis shoe with a degree in finance, and then aren't an MBA here in UL Lafayette. He participated in UCLA's Anderson school of management where he became one of the first certified 4._0._1._K professionals in the state of Louisiana. He lives in new Iberia with his wife, Casey in their four children on the civic, and volunteer side, but was named one of the top twenty under forty leaders in Acadian ah by the daily advertiser and the seven of five in twenty thirteen. He's a member of the council. One one seven nine three Emma saying that right vote for the knights of Columbus. He was a leader on the team that established the Iberia parish foundation, which is now. An affiliate of the community foundation of on. We're gonna talk a lot more about that. And I'm just going to go through a laundry list of some of your involvements, bow your on the Iberian cultural resources association board you've served on the Iberia parish industrial development foundation member and past president of the new Iberia Qantas club and just this past year late in the fall, you were awarded the civic service award that greater IB of chamber of commerce. And I know we're going to talk about Monica what by mardi gras done. And most importantly, the leader in me so Boba league. Welcome to discover Lafayette Joan. Thank you. This is a this is exciting. It's exciting to be able to to visit with you into to talk about all those things that I'm really passionate about. So I'm looking forward to talk. Let's talk a better mutual friends. So we had not met before today. But we've talked on the phone, our mutual friend is Chris raider, who's another new Iberia native, and he told. You've got to get Bowe on the show, and we're we're really focusing on south easy. Ana when I say discover Lafayette, I'm really talking about south Louisiana, and we have not really had a focus on new Iberia. And I think you you carry a lot of the the current energy from all the good things that are going on in community. Speaking of Chris in new Iberia, he he is a no he lives in Lafayette. But, but he's still, you know, missed a new bear his Russo there is friends of theirs families there, and he's if you get him to aside for second he'll tell you about how wonderful area, parishes and Catholic high. That's right. The common thing we have in common. And I'm smiling before we start JD regard was an early guest on discover Lafayette, and he's pointed out to me that all good emanates from new Iberia. So second. Coming from the the biggest that we all know. Chiefs chief. No, I think I think if the chief nut says, it it flies with me. So let's go back to your early days. You're you grew up in new Iberia your family's still there. Can you talk about what led you to study, finance and got you into your current business of helping people do financial planning to my dad is a CPA who never worked in an accounting practice. He always worked in industry and worked in the oilfield, and he would come home very passionate about what he did. Just from the number standpoint mothers, a registered nurse who did a lot of home health work and the passion that both of them had my mom, helping those who are less fortunate to couldn't leave their homes for my nursing standpoint. My dad would the financial background really think it was a combination of some of the positive traits from both of them that led me into a very service oriented career on the financial services. Side, most of our business ninety percent of our businesses retirement plans. So we spend all of days visiting with employees who really wouldn't otherwise have total access to someone from financial service standpoint. A lot of times the advisers there have to be paid for for with the services they provide and a lot of times they lean towards folks with big balances in line money. And so through the retirement plans, we feel it's our call and duty to to service and work with all of the employees at all at all walks of life from we, you know, of course, we meet with executives in the business owners, but also from the truckdriver on the well and the plant an operator from standpoint front, you know, those folks don't normally have someone available to them. And and we we really have passion to facetious them have a fruit for retirement and making sure that we give them. The time energy that they deserve because they work just as hard as as the rest of us in. And so it's something that we that. We're really excited about doing it. It gets us up. If in the last eighteen years every morning, and and I'm just as energized about what we do today as what we when we started in two thousand and one. At this point in my life. I realize important was to save and my husband, John swift has always been frugal because of his family background. But my family didn't have much and so it was more about having enough to spend. And so I didn't have that saving mentality. It can be hard as a young person in your mid twenties to Bank. I'm going to be sixty five one day. I better think or maybe just at least put aside a little bit. Is it tough? When you meet with people like, I know you can't give out specific financial advice. But is it tough to to encourage people to be a good steward of what they have. And to maybe look ahead. That's that's some of our secret sauce. I mean, that's that's what we do is we try and have that eight can be an eighteen year old nine hundred twenty five year old get them to say, we try and get put ourselves in their shoes and help them to understand the importance of it. And a lot of times after sitting down with us and the four. One came meetings. They'll they'll have the the energy and the excitement about putting money away. And and we try and build a picture form would like would look like sixty five years old, and you know, a lot of times, it's gross. But it's not us telling the story, it's a lot of times, it's more seasoned worker. That's been there for twenty thirty years. That's that saying, hey, you know, this is what I did. And look what I've been able to accomplish or vice versa that tell him the other side of the story saying, you know, I didn't start saving young enough age. And I can only imagine what that would have been been like if I had started in early twenty s sometimes the people that don't seem like they have much are actually the ones that have socked away what they could try. But then it grows every time. And I think about some young people I'm talking about just saving even in case. They get a flat tire. Right. You know, a lot of people don't have money. It's it's it can be tough. I'm sure in look, I get it. I mean, I have four kids. You have any money. I know my father told me that no worry one day when the kids are grown. You'll open your your wallet. And you have a couple of dollars in it. But I I know what it costs to to feed a family of six noted cost to send him to baseball practice into dancing one. My second daughter's graduating from high school this year, and she's been she's been in dance on our life. So unnoted cost us into dance schools into the dance camps into baseball and basketball practices. And and so we try and relate to to the employees and let them understand that. Hey, we're just like you and trying to try to save as well. And and you know, it it's really inspirational whenever we see an employee who's who's who's taken us up on the opportunity to save and years later, they came come back, and they say, you know, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for taking the time. No one else had been willing to do that. And you know, it's it's it is it's a real. Awarding a very warning career that that we are in your in your eighteenth year now. And now you opened up in Lafayette, I want to say your first office was on rue Borgo. Kali Salamn which was easy for you to get to from your home in the new Iberia area. But you've been able to see the fruits of your efforts. Now, you have more than one office location. We have an office still in Lafayette, we have our main office in new Iberia, but we we also have one tiptoe business partner. Sean Harrison who started co source with me, he's tiptoe, and we have one just outside of of Beaumont, Texas, and we are hopefully going to have in New Orleans by the end of two thousand nineteen so we've been able to we've been able to grow most of our our clients up and down highway ninety or I ten between New Orleans and Houston, and so, but it hasn't always been easy. I mean, when we when we started co source it was in June of o-on, even very young twenty six a buddy of mine from new Iberia who moved back, Mike maintenace who moved back to new Iberia after living in Baton Rouge said going into business for yourself as having ultimate active faith in your ability to succeed. And so. Yeah. We were young and maybe delays that like you thought you could always probably go work. Thought I think that's the best time two months after we opened we had nine eleven hit. And so to start retirement plan firm in in have that hit us, and then you had the dot com. Crash. Right. We're we're trying to deal with businesses who are trying to do to hold onto everything. They had a couple of years later you had hurricanes Katrina and Rita then you had the real estate market bust that that hurt us. All you had the BP oil spill the downturn. We've seen this often Alesana if you had asked me ten years ago. Hey, this is what's going to happen over the next eighteen years, you show you wanna go into this business. I don't know if my answer would have been the same. But I'm glad we've done it. We've been able to be successful that we've done, you know, we do over those years and great Harry ad. And you don't have you don't have any wrinkles survived or teenagers. The greatest coming quick. Well, let's talk about you know, I want people to know where to find you. But I want to get into your community work for anybody. That's interested in calling your your representatives co source financial group where would they visit? You can get on the our website co source financial dot com. They can call our office at six zero six nine eight six zero. And we're always we have a live person that answers the phone unless we have everyone tied up with other customers, we have a lot, you know. So you get you get some good down home service with some down home people. Okay. Well, let's talk about you and new Iberia. I when I was researching you you've been involved in semi things that affect the quality of life of people. I bury parish. I know it's a bigger thing for you than just meeting people for your work. I mean, you've done everything from being active in the local chamber that helps business to the industrial development the Qantas club, which everybody knows all the good work. Qantas does starting by you, mardi gras? I just want to let you start talking about. What has motivated you to honestly change and enhance what people can experience and very parish. A couple of years ago. I was fortunate to be able to meet they have a Ted talk about a gentleman by the name of Simon cynic and one of his big questions that he asked his audiences and those that he motivates is wanting to know the why bind what it is you do. And who it is you serve, and it's something that that since I've met Simon that off of of Iraq around on my mind, very often. And I think if you go back to what we do with co source and the way we serve all walks of life, white collar, blue collar, and and what would we do in the community as well? It's it's all about it's all about other people, and it's all about providing that servant leadership in all aspects of life while it's at Kosar. So whether it's at Sacred Heart church, where I'm very active involved, though, the Qantas club or the Iberia parish foundation, or even the the mardi gras parade stuff that you. Mentioned I think it's all about Hansen the lives of those around. You think when when it's your time to go meet Saint, Peter, I don't think Saint Peter's going to say, hey, you know, what is it? How would you mast that you bring into the pearly gates? I think he's gonna be asking would have you done for your fellow, man. And woman what have you done the help those around you? How have you spread the love of of the gospel in and and and helped do my work on on on on earth? And I think is something that we all need to do more of think is is much as a feel like the that. We've done over the years. I still I still think we're on the tip of everything that we can do here in south, Louisiana. I don't think I think we have we have so many great people so many passionate people. And and and I know we're going to be talking about I bury a lot. But whether it's an Iberian parish Lafayette parish. I can't help but defined people who wanna make those around them better and those types of people inspire me to do more. And turned forty four and a couple of weeks. And and I feel that this is the the beginning. This is this is not the end of what we've accomplished we have. We have a lot more to do. Yeah. So using the gifts you've been Kevin. It's correct. So let's start you know, we were talking about the IB parish foundation, which is now an affiliate under the umbrella of the community foundation of a Katy on a run by our mutual friend. Raymond a bear. When that was started that was one hundred dollar investments. So talk a little bit about that story about how that began in. What was the impetus behind it, shall we had a group that we of young professionals that we we had gathered. We name was bourgeois. Twenty thirty schwa- I'm booze while being the the entrepeneurship class, and and France and the years, so we we we had these thoughts of couple of visits and some creative sessions at clementines restaurant in new. Nigeria. In twenty thirty being looking out twenty and thirty years, and Santa K would a we want. I've area parish to look like what what changes can we make an and as part of you know, this foundation we thought all right? What if they create this foundation thirty years ago forty years ago? What would it look like today, and what kind of an impact could it be having on our community? And we didn't say, hey, you know, it's going to benefit the arts or it's going to benefit education. We looked at it collectively in realize through a community foundation. It wasn't necessarily picking ideas, but it was picking passions. So you finding those families those businesses. Those those philanthropists who are passionate about a certain part of the community and are willing to give if you can connect those passionate people with the places that they really feel most passionate to give when now you just conduit for making good things happen and. That was the thought behind it. And and we really have done a great job. And the success stories are everywhere on what's come out of this. This found this one hundred dollar commitment the community foundation of Acadian, and we we're really excited about where it is. Now, we've done and what we have to. We're going to have it do in the future crown. It's yet. So most four million dollars. And you know, we we started out we we a Bank is is the sponsor for this. So it's not to say, I bury a Bank was we don't gave us a one of the first thirty thousand dollars commitment back when we got started Taleb who's the regional president of the time in our area. Understood what we were trying to do. We had him as a member of our initial board and Iberia Bank stepped up and said, hey, we like the idea we like the way that it can impact the community, and and they ponied up and the rest of the rest is history. They really do invest and and making our communities better across the south caro-, right? We've had initially what? So we have a couple of different pockets of of money one one of those pockets as what we call discretionary pocket where where donors who who want to benefit. I bury parish who live in berry parish can set up their own private those Brown private funds. And then we have a non-discretionary fund where our board can use the interest. And and and some a little bit of the principal has given during the year, but a very small amount and give it to charities and and interest, and I've airpower and we've we've seen a lot of grants to schools to nonprofit organizations, so you know, in in three to four thousand dollar range, some of them smaller, the culture resources association has been the benefit of of a couple of our our grants. But you know, even after the BP all spill the the BP gave Iberia parish. I think it was five hundred thousand dollars and two hundred fifty thousand was given to the foundation to basically run a competitive grant cycle to give to to give money to organizations that we're gonna draw Batori simulated in- hopefully be able to some sort continued ongoing benefit. I've era parish. We gave twenty thousand dollars through again through this cycle to the on tap on tap is a similar to the seven five group. A young business group who who basically, it's it's all charity driven all to get back to the community, very very involved, very motivating Wes Robinson is kind of their leader in a creator of that. But he's got a team of people who are very passionate about about parish. They had this this. They wanted to put on there where they were gonna bring dragon boats to the biotech, and then we're gonna have dragon boat races. And they had a great plan. It was a great idea. It was hard to imagine having twenty dragon boats into by you tash. But, but but we believe in their efforts, and so I- dollar investment in in on tap in the dragon boats they've given away through the money's Eva race. I think we just had Seth dragon boat race over one hundred thousand dollars. So that so it's it's not only twenty thousand dollars that way to to get them to get started. But the reciprocal benefits have been it's multiplied. And it's just that's a perfect example. Of something that we've been able to do this just kept giving over the years. Now, you've mentioned to me the leader in may is very important your philosophy. What what we can do to help children? Was that something very pairs foundation. Also assisted with it is. So, you know, Dan, Alexander who's aboard minimum the Laffy education foundation. Again, we try to learn from those around us and from others. Dan, had we were talking about another leadership initiative that I was involved with with young people in Louisiana any asked me one day just over a visit have you heard of leader in me, and I had not and we went on to talk about Stephen Covey, and the seven habits of highly effective people, which is a book that Ma fall the gave me when I was in high school to read. So I was I was although the the habits couldn't necessarily recite them at the time. We're we're familiar to me. Understood the concept a took a trip with Dan, and we went to Morton, petty Zhou elementary and Acadia parish and. Yes, I was moved to motion into tears. I mean to see the kids do what they did we we sat there in a presentation and listen to kids present the results of their school for twenty minutes and never heard of never heard an adult speak and two and then realize and Beria our elementary schools go from from kindergarten sixth grade and an Acadia parish. It was and this Marin pettibone at least it was to third grade. So we had second and third grade is leading this leadership symposium. And and I was just taking back before. And I said, look, this is a model that we can spread diarrhea. We we can't pass up this opportunity. And so we talked to the board about we got the board to go to Martin petty show as well and have them behind it. They walked out of there, and tears just all inspired about what they saw. And we partnered with a local business barrow transportation bare art help give us the seed money to to. And we had all the local donors as well. But but but bay road was the the main match money that we were able to attract and we've got leader me start at Aspen elementary and aware believe we're not third year now and this going going phenomenon and the kids eleven it. And and the this does the teachers have to go through a process accept challenges. It's not something that you can push down on the teachers and staff from the top. It's got to be something that they want and they buy into. But when they mind to it, it's powerful really think, you know, we we focus so much in Louisiana on our readiness skills for job training. We talk about not having the attract businesses. I system this back and forth. I think if we start at with the the youngest of children, and and teach them some of the fundamental some of the simple things that they may not get at home. How how to think win win a certain situation when you getting. To debated discussion with someone thinking with the end in mind before you, and these I described the leader in me is changing the DNA of school is not a program that you're putting into the school system. It's really changing the DNA change the entire culture of that school. And I think it's the least we could do to ensure success of the students for when they when they get to. It's it really really is. We will excited last year. We so we started with the the the our foundation and barrow transportation we went to the United way of Iberia, and we brought miss Carleen Rulli to again back to Morton, we mourn petty Johnson sales pitch. So once they see these kids once it's full in action. If it's it's hard to it's hard to resist. We got we got Carleen to come and see it. She had colleagues in the United way of Acadia and Lafayette parish the United way had taken running with it had taken it from, you know, the Lafayette education foundation was running with and. And Dr Kip Schumacher and the Schumacher foundation is really extremely passionate about it. They agree to partner with the United way of Iberia and us in Beria Pash and last year, we added three more schools. So it started as initiative catalysts with with with barrow, transportation and DASS bellum entry. We now have four schools and we're hoping to add a fifth next fall. If we can if everything works out, right? It's funny. I think when we grew up a lot of us, at least we were around more extended family Sieff, you weren't quite thinking things there. You know when when? But we don't always have that. And so little people they're sponges. So they can get it early. And then they bring it home to their own families. And I think it works seen it in the skull. So when you talk when you talk to administration and Morton pettibone, you knew it started as a school initiative, but it bled into the community in this programs of this program right now in rain that has taken off through the efforts of first and second graders Morton, petty Zhou who wanted to have a litter campaign. And so I think we're going to see some of that and Beria parish to the results that we we have to elementary schools in Jenrette or some of the ones that came on board recently with leader in me and talking to the superintendent in Iberia parish in some of the other ministration, they say it's transforming the schools in generate and so we're really really excited about it. I can't wait to see with these young students after having these years of leader in me as part of their lives. Can had when the high schools on that change their lives. They'll come out of high school with all the the skills that employers look for soft schedules. Correct. We want right. That's great. So let's see you you've done some other things, let's talk mardi gras. You know, my husband here in Lafayette parish loves mardi gras. And I know that you do to in a fierce back you guys ramp lamented, I guess in organized mardi gras fry berry for new Iberia MSA. So by you, mardi gras and so for the past three years you've been engaged in that. Can you talk about is hard to grow up in China and not like more grown every everyone loves mardi gras except maybe some of the crowded streets at times. But it's, but it's always been a part of all of our lives and Beria parish the crew van the Luger, which I'm a part of had always put on the the mardi gras parade. And there was a couple of gentlemen, that had done it for thirty plus years, and and they just got worn out and. And it's it's expensive, and we had different costs that had come up. And and so they decided not to have it. So we went without a Mona grow parade for one year and Beria parish. And it's amazing. How many phone calls that personally got an I know other guy about what happened to the parade. When are we gonna why are we having a parade? What can we do? Have it MAC and a gentleman patent with with Norris international called me up one day and called Mike watt Nghien west Roberson who we talked about was with with on Depp. And said, hey, we want to start this this parade. Again, would y'all be interested in it didn't end took two seconds. And we all say we are on board with us. And so we're not third year. Now, we've grown the parade. We, you know with an delus- believe we know may have eleven twelve flows. We've been in the twenty range from the last three years. We've had we've had we had a high school ban from New Orleans come in. Last year, we had the we had another marching band this year. Come in the fat city drum corps came into this year. It's they will they will they will. So we want to bring a little bit of New Orleans to new Iberia and have a little bit of that that that says on on the biotech, but to bring home is it only on Tuesday or d do trades like we do a night parade. It's been a Saturday for the last three years. We've let off mortar grown Acadian we've been the first parade. And so we're going to probably try and continue that tradition. Mainstream like Dow main street, so it's it starts on main street in Newberry wraps around crosses the by you in and ends up in city park believe if I'm not mistaken as the last Saturday in January next year, maybe Saturday January twenty eighth and twenty two now in March. So. We had to start planning. So the planet to reserve the floats and all that, but it's been a phenomenal. And again, we talk about doing good things for the right reasons, we did that for the for the right reason of bringing back a parade excuse me. But it became more than that. It it became an uplifting. Experience. Fall those we had so many phone calls, and let us to the additon and from others to hey that meant so much to bring back this parade in broad back. A lot of energy renewed commitment. I'm Mary parish this year, we had a classmate of mine Kayla Reshad Rawson who's suffering with kidney disease. She had a kidney transplant. I'm getting my dates wrong. Maybe ten years ago, and that and that transplants failing. And so she is looking for a kidney donor, a ally a person who is willing to donate their kidney of it's a match. But so we they had a what's called a kidney for Kayla float that they created into to promote the, you know, the kidney disease. Awareness, and you know, the Langues grew into that volunteers has stepped up to help out with the kidney for Kayla was remarkable. They had t shirts to how to flow they had. We did little videos for them. But I mean, there was big newspaper articles. But all again, helping people for the right reasons in the parish with with no strings attached to just doing things enhance the lives of those around you to help those who are suffering with kidney disease into and to help kale in and her family. It was really really neat for people that have never put on a monograph prey, it's work idea. You have to I you have to get permits. The police are involved the safety support teams, you've got public works picking up trash after you've got to organize the floats and get them trained on how to be safe. And I had no idea till my husband really got involved locally that the volunteers are they're invisible. All. People know is they can walk down the street and catch beads, and there's so much more to it. So for you guys to start that is it's a bit yet, man. It was an and you know, we did is expensive. We did. We did the first one in probably about three months time. So we put it all better. Correct. Some of that blind being being naive to it. And we didn't know van successful. We had we had a four chiefs in Rome who all wanted to be Indians. And so we were able to tackle the task. We didn't ask questions we we had faith in each other's ability to get things done and. You didn't ride were you like, according to a couple of us in the Nebraska a couple of us coronated on the streets of of rose able to ride the couple of years, but. Joy, I'm doing joy. At somebody's got a to troubleshoot future parades cry from float perspective experience. It's probably always happened to me, which you talk about safety issues. We had we had a float catch on fire. Generate but but again, we had Firestone things you don't think we need at Firestone wish that we had it plan now. Insurance the police. The police force is incredible are for the first two years. We had the bureau power sheriff's department that worked really really well with us when now in new Iberia, we have a city police department that that came back this year this year, we had the city police work in forest. We had you know, the the beginning of the parade. We had state police and sheriff's department and city police all work hand in hand and everybody came together to make a very safe environment and the fire wasn't a big fire able to get it. But it was the float fire is good. It was the end of the parade. Float was in front of me. And I saw. Hours panicking. So, but but it went it went really well again everybody did what they were supposed to do to handle. Talking to and we do well with all of your volunteer work. I know that the the chamber just recently awarded you the civic service award. And I I know it's because of all the things you've done. So congratulations. Earlier at forty almost forty four years old. I feel like this is the beginning. I don't. Janet falk. Who's who called me to let me know about the water Janneh said, I think I'm too young to get these things this -sposed to be someone who's in their fifties sixties. But I I accept that it for the sole fact that I want others to see how fun it can be to serve the community. This is not something that that causes stress in my life. This is something that that makes me feel better to give back to the community. And it helps me to sleep better at night knowing that that I've done I've done my part. The we also had come talking about the chamber and not really kind of under service. Janet, director of the chamber. They have the world Gumbo championship. Yeah. So this is this this need. Eat cook we cook. With the team we have again talking about a team of chiefs. Everybody wants to be an Indian. We have we Andy swallow Gumbo team for so many years, and we won many many times under direction. So we historic. We've done two of them. We did a seafood Gumbo. And then we did in his three categories you have seafood category chicken sausage category and the Noma launch category. So we competed in the seafood Milange everything else. And so we competed in seafood category, and we would compete them along category with smoke Turkey on doing well when four years ago Andy X me takeover the team. And I said, well, we're not doing too bows anymore. We just gonna do one to make a little bit easier. And so we we want a lot of titles onto and we've won in the Malone category. Three of the last four years. We won first place. But the cool thing, you know, winning is. Pretty competitive with real cool thing, I think you are. Yeah. Last year southern living magazine came out, and they did a huge spread on a Gumbo cook off, and it was such good promotion five area passion. Fi katya? I had phone calls from a buddy who sister read about it in Virginia and another buddy who used to work with twenty years ago who lives in Louisville Kentucky and his wife picked up a magazine to learn how to cook her Gumbo. And realized that that are recipe was in the in in the January technical question. Should it come out ever have tomatoes are XM? Well, that's going to be a personal preference. So so. Yes. So some of the things able putting up when you get close to New Orleans has got a lot of tomatoes, so like tomatoes and okra, correct? No, you don't see that very often here. You know, if you're going to my personal opinions, if you're going to have any kind of tomatoes in it, whoever's taste, and it shouldn't know that it's in. That's not a tomato based it's a it's a it's a ruined stock base. And that's how it should be. There's anything wrong with that. No. That's right. Different is just a little bit different than New Orleans. And I think if you if you go to the Gumbo cook off, which is always a second weekend in October. You can taste a wide variety of them bows. And you know, normally somewhere in the neighborhood of about one hundred teams come in. And what a challenge for people from other states come into Jammie potato salad. You put that Cindy ever scoop. It. I don't scoop it in. Now, I will do. So I don't eat muggy with rice, which is so. Well what I'll do. I'll get my carbs from scoop potato salad. Dip it in there. But I don't put my potato salad in the middle of the Stor. No, just dirty. I've never been able to any of our guys. So. Well, what what is you can we go back and look in southern living's issue of this year. Thank you for bringing that up. We had fun with it too. Because the with the southern living staff, you know, the asked me if they could we could give the recipe, and I said show, but we had never written down a recipe before and she wanted to for twelve people. And I said, well, we cook and for about five hundred people from scratch, we do part of the requirement and as a side note only have one a right of passage in our houses by the time you graduate you have to be able to Gumbo from scratch. That's right. My youngest is the only one who hasn't done it yet. But but he's going to have to do it. He's he just turned thirteen. So he he's do. He's due for a day of Gumbo cooking with with his daddy. But every year every year, but when when southern Levin contact at us they wanted for twelve people a fourteen people. So every cook we cook a big Gumbo for Christmas every year, but we still cook in it for probably about thirty or forty people. So I could not go out to measure everything we went, and then I just cut it all in half. And but but they have a test kitchen that cooks before they publish it. And so they did a did a little video blog for for the for the person who is asking for the recipe 'cause she was going to try it as well to kind of coach her alone. But they came back test kitchen loved it. And so. January edition. It was. It was great promotion for south Louisiana those articles. And I wanted to bring it out as cautioned the picture this show in that article for the Gumbo by the is not the picture of Arkham. Oh, they must have been a picture of some of the Gumbo. They cooked, but there's also a page for candid shots of people from the cook off, and you can see what some really good Gumbo snuck like, well, that's exciting. I do want to say one of our gas in the past was George Graham, and I had always been taught by my aunt Pearl. Like, you're talking about with your kids how to make you know, the the REU from scratch, but I did try boxes ru. And it was delicious. I know when you're competing you've got to do everything from scratch, but for home cooks that are not great cooks. It's okay to some help and save some time if it's delicious. So I I did enjoy rocks. Israel wanna get that? And so we're here with Jason Sikora, our partner with writer solutions and know that you to know each other through mutual partnerships between writers solutions, and and co source financial even writing notes, you have some questions. What's the secret to your Gumbo? Stock is the is that what is the stock? I mean everybody it seems to be overlooked in the stock. Is is where it's. Room if we all can end up being the same depending on the temperature in the stock is is where the flavors comes from. And I mean, you you have to be committed to patients. Defending. Yes. So when the smoked Turkey on do we are making a stock out Turkey carcasses and smoke turkeys that we get then that's a is a big big part of the flavor. I mean, if you eat just stock before, it's a gun. It doesn't taste too bad. If that's generating a lot of flavor for you. That's the that's the first start. So I wanted to thank you because I've spoken to you and your staff about investing in 4._0._1._K's. And and things that were as a Rhody, I never thought about and encouraged me to talk to other people. I know who are you know, bankers and investors and kind of figure this whole thing out. So just sitting with you and figuring out how to roll over money and do things like that has been a big incurred -ment to save. So thank you for that in your staff. Kadian all of them are great. And the fact that they're willing to drive over here and talk to us, and I don't have to to. Would that? We actually like that's what we enjoy doing. We enjoy being in your office. We can't get a true feeling of what it is. You do why it is. You do what you do unless we come to UNESCO. Sitting an raider solution standpoint sitting and seeing y'all's darkened room and understand and y'all tech guys over here. Job, but we need to see and feel that same thing as if we are now in, you know, going out to sugar mill and we'll working with people who will work on the mechanics of the mill. I mean, we need it. We need to understand what it is that they're doing on a day-to-day basis before we can really help them on on preparing for their future that make sense. And you bring up a good point that our offices very dark because there's a lot of computer screens and a lot of tech nerds sitting behind them. So yeah, we we keep all the whites off. I like it. I like it when I call they handle everything real. When when we first started doing business with you all I was, you know, I was the IT guy and spending so much personal time rebooting servers, and and trying to update software and now my so you complimenting my staff, but let me tell you about at Rada y'all it makes it so easy for us. Just to send a support rate of solutions dot com, Email saying respond, and you get on my computer you solve it. I have zero downturn time. And it's it's made us be better. At what we do. And it allows us to be able to serve you all better because we're not worried about all the IT commotion that we were worried about years past. So it's it's a mutual respect for each other. It's a it's a great. You know, Jan use the word partnership. It's a great partnership and so with thankful for for you all as well. It's always good to to hear feedback. And that's we strive to make make it easy for you. I mean that that's our motto. Right. You just wanted to work, and we understand I think the other day we had. One hundred percent answer call rate, which is what we strive for. We also hundred fifteen phone calls. Come in. We got every single one of them. Nothing went to the answering service. And it's and we want to do that and take care of you right away. So I appreciate that. I know you can't give advice into investing. But in in terms of your job doing retirement investing. What's the hardest or most difficult part of your job? So a lot of times when someone asks us what we do tell them, we're financial therapist cow. So if you can kind of wrap your arms around that a lot of us know what we need to be doing. And we just choose not to. We all we have other priorities. And I mean, it's I can go just in my personal house. We we have other priorities that are going on and saving for retirement may not be at the top of the list. I mean, like, you people who who have employment issues that may change medical issues that come and go, you know, other cat catastrophic things that might happen to a home in an emergency, STAN situation. So I get it we understand, and we don't talk down to to someone who's going through those. We can we can understand that in rationalize. Exactly what you what you go on through. Because a lot of we've been through our selves. And so I think to really from again back to financial therapy standpoint, we have to be able to be able to talk one on one with you make you feel comfortable and understand why it's important. And I think that most difficult part, which is what is also what we're good at is getting in. To your shoes really understanding, and you know, what it is at drives. You would motivate you, and you know, would give you passion to want to provide for your family's future forty years down the road that make sense. And so the opposite side of that what's the funnest of the most rewarding part. Oh, this is easy. We get we probably have two hundred clients retirement plans up in his learning to see everyone. Everyone does eleven to walk into rate of solutions. And again with joke on the dimly lit. This is the only client will actually have one on the client that I've walked into that's been this way. But y'all with the first one I walked into the office of his dim. And can you got all these computer tech nerds? They're gonna town stay complementary way or going into a fabrication shop and see in would it is they're actually actually manufacturing in their facility. We talked a recent fab shallow violent manufacturing gun parts. I mean, just really neat things in learning about the different industries in in the parish and Louisiana for that matter. That is to me. It is super exciting Superfund when not doing even know we're we're giving the same messaging. We're not doing the same thing with the same people every day, we're constantly in different areas. Even like on the medical side understand what of the specific doctor nurse does. And what their specialty is not something you get every day by sitting behind a computer calculator. I guess that makes sense you work with a whole wide variety of companies insight that most of us wouldn't have we are client basis, we have concrete companies banks Suga mills construction companies accounting firms, medical groups, legal groups, you name it. We IT groups. We have we have you all we have an app based company. I industrial construction company a lot of oil field service companies, you know, and then you you break into auto service. And like, okay. What do you do in the service yet you on the production side of it you on the drilling side? You know? What are you? What are you operating? And so it really for us. It we get to learn every day on our job about other peoples. And it's it it really is. It's it's fun to to learn about all the the new industries, and and keeps us on our toes as well to be able to be really up to date on what's affecting our customers. So we sit in the in the offices, you know, even over meeting with an employs a lot of times sitting in the owner's office, the CFO's office where understanding with keeping them up at night as well from a regulation standpoint. And so we can take some of that messaging back in our industry and try and make it easier for them to do what it is that they do. And so you know, that that that's pretty exciting for us as well. Awesome. Awesome. My final question was to do with your Curie work. Is there something that you'd like to do in terms of charitable things that you haven't done yet? That would be hard to find. There's been so many. I know there's always something show. Here's one thing that well, I would at some point. And this is something because financial literacy is something that that I have not explored that I think is something that at some point that I that I would like to get into. Educate, whether it's on whether it's on the adult level in the high school level, but financial literacy, something then I think we as a state as a region as a country, even we need to focus more on. It's not in our educational systems in where you can't find it anywhere. You know, they've prioritized other things for right role in different. I just think an in regardless of your career path. Whether you are a doctor and IT programmer, a accountant banker we walk into banks, and they have some the similar problems with financial literacy as not to undermine you know, any particular. But I mean, it's it's all walks alive that have difficulty understanding and grasping the concepts that that we think are important to go to go to answer your question a little bit direct different direction. Jamie nelson. A mayor was a teacher of mine in high school and she had a program. She was a religion teacher campus ministry team. Catholic. It was called time. It was popular. What y'all gonna be familiar with? But practicing random acts of kindness and since beauty. I have fun doing things randomly kind for people. So you talk about what would happen should done that so many randomly nice things that you can do for other people and to challenge other people to do that. And a lot of times being anonymous about it and and having fun with it. If if if you can create that game within yourself to to just do good things for other people in maybe not have them have any idea where the kindness came from. It's even that much more effective in that much more important to the person who's receiving that kindness. And it's something that that that really really I if if you haven't done it before try at once how it makes you feel it makes you feel good try to second time and share with somebody else the idea of doing and see and see how that that builds on a self. If we all did the more randomly kind a little bit more often, we would although Acadian is the happiest place in America lift would be. Even that much happier. If we did move. All right. We can't top that. A great note. Great question. Jason. Thank you very much for being here. You have in me. This is first podcast of. Rookie podcast. This is awesome. You'll make it very comfortable to to be here. So. Greg cast. I wanna thank Bobo gay partner with co stores financial group and very much inactive part of the very parish community. Thank you for taking time with us today, and I wanna think raiders solutions Sikora, thank you in berry Bank for being sponsors of this podcast. And thank you for listening for this podcast. 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NPR News: 04-08-2020 5PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 04-08-2020 5PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Windsor Johnston. The death toll from the corona virus has spiked for a second straight day in New York. Officials say the number of casualties has surpassed six thousand with nearly one hundred fifty thousand confirmed cases in the St Charles Lane with member station W. S. H. U. REPORTS. Even though the numbers are high officials say the curve of the infection rate appears to be flattening governor. Andrew Cuomo says that his worry now is that people will become complacent ignore social distancing orders and cause more infections he says normalcy can't return until the infection rate comes down. Cuomo also acknowledged that minorities have been disproportionately impacted by the virus and suggested an unknown underlying societal cause they live in more dense communities more urban environments. But what is it? And let's learn from that and let's do it now. Cuomo says more testing will be done in minority communities. When asked if your grocery and delivery services should be open in order to reduce exposure to minorities he said no they should remain open for NPR news. I'm Charles Lane in New York. Federal support for Corona virus testing sites around the country will end Friday. And at least some will shut down as a result. Npr's Jeff Brady reports. Federal funding was designed as a stop-gap until states develop their own community based testing sites. The federal government help setup testing sites last month to focus on healthcare workers. Now Fema says states can take over those programs in Montgomery County outside Philadelphia. That means the federally supported. Site will shutdown doctor Valerie R. Kush is the county commission chair and says the feds provided testing supplies and access to a lab and this site came with a contract with core. Who accepted two hundred and fifty samples from this site every day? So there's just no way that we can replace either of those same Arcos has local hospitals. Now have their own testing sites but she says it's disappointing. The federal help will end just as the region heads into a surge of cases. Jeff Brady. Npr News Philadelphia Vermont. Senator Bernie Sanders is ending his presidential campaign. The announcement comes after. A series of primary defeats left him without a viable path to the nomination effectively making former vice presidential biden the Democratic nominee speaking by video message. Today Sanders urged his party to come together in the months ahead to several as many delegates as possible at the Democratic convention where we will be able to exert significant influence over the party platform and policies. The Democratic primary contest ends as the nation continues to grapple with the corona virus pandemic which prevented in-person campaigning for both sanders and Biden. You're listening to. Npr News in Washington. The British government says Prime Minister. Boris Johnson is showing signs of improvement after being hospitalized for the Corona Virus Johnson Woods move to an intensive care unit late yesterday for testing after he experienced persistent symptoms of the illness. A spokesman for the prime minister says Johnson is still receiving standard oxygen treatment but was breathing without any other assistance. A man and South West Virginia has filed a lawsuit challenging an executive order issued by Governor Ralph Northam ordering people to stay home during the Corona Virus Pandemic Whitney Evans of member station. Vpn reports northern has limited gatherings to ten people. The lawsuit claims. The governor's executive order violates the Virginia Constitution and that it should be up to religious groups to decide for themselves. How many parishioners should be allowed to gather shea? Cook is an attorney for Larry. Hughes the man who filed the lawsuit he says while businesses like liquor stores and vape shops have to limit customers to ten. The executive order doesn't restrict the number of employees who can be present. Make an exception. For those types of activities why not make exceptions for an activity? The specifically mentioned and protected in the Virginia Constitution a court hearing in this case is expected to take place Thursday by phone for NPR news. I'm Whitney Evans in Richmond. All of the major indices were higher today on Wall Street at the close the Dow Jones Industrial Average was up. Seven hundred. Seventy nine point said twenty three thousand four thirty three the SNP up ninety points. The Nasdaq up two or three. This is NPR news.

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NPR News: 04-13-2020 4AM ET

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04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 04-13-2020 4AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Culver City. California I'm Doin' cycle towel. Tornadoes ripped through Louisiana and Mississippi Easter Sunday. Killing at least seven people countless homes are destroyed. Some victims are counting their blessings while others are grieving. The loss of a loved one including Latisha Dylan of Walthall County. She says she ran towards her brother's house but it was too late. We ran back up in the house and it just tore everything. Everything just ripped off in everything at this hour. Some some seven hundred fifty thousand homes and businesses are without power in at least ten states in New York state. The death toll now stands at nine thousand three hundred eighty five but the number of new corona virus patients admitted to New York. Hospitals has fallen to the lowest level. Since the outbreak started on Sunday officials continued to debate when it will be safe to reopen the St Charles Lane from member station W. S. H. U. REPORTS. On the same day that seven hundred and fifty eight people died in the state from Corona virus? A dispute erupted over how and when to reopen schools New York City mayor. Bill de Blasios says they are to remain close for the academic year Governor Andrew. Cuomo says it's too soon to make that decision Cuomo. Compared we opening the region to a complicated jigsaw puzzle between schools businesses and transportation. You'll people who live in Connecticut. Who Work in New York City? You live in New York City. Who WORKED IN NEW JERSEY? This all works as one or doesn't work. Komo added that bringing testing to scale and congress passing another stimulus package are also required to reopen the country for NPR news. I'm Charles Lane in New York. Uk Prime Minister. Boris Johnson is thinking England's National Health Service for saving his life. As the death toll. There continues to climb over ten thousand six hundred. Npr's Frank Langfitt has the latest Johnson. Who spent time in an intensive care unit credited healthcare staffer keeping him alive when quote. It could have gone either way. I've today left hospital after a week. In which the NHS has saved my new question. Johnson is recuperating at Chequers the Prime Minister's Country Estate and adjust staff of criticized the government for not providing enough personal protective equipment at least twenty eight. Healthcare workers have died from Cova. Nineteen according to the BBC. One of the government's senior scientific advisor said the UK is likely to be among the countries in Europe. Worst hit by the Corona Virus Frank Langfitt. Npr News in Asia shares. Were mostly lower on Monday. While crude prices gained more than a dollar a barrel after the world's top oil producing nations agreed on site to reduce an unprecedented production cut of nearly ten million barrels. I'm this is. Npr News president. Donald Trump is eager to restart the economy but governors are divided over one to ease restrictions in their states. Maryland's governor Larry Hogan says state leaders are in need of more personal protective equipment and ventilators. We've certainly seen an improvement over the past week from the week before I know that a lot of people in Washington working very hard. Everybody has gotten more supplies than we had before the week before and the day before they. Republican governor is calling on the trump administration to give five hundred billion dollars indirect assistance to states for the crown of ours pandemic response. Ottawa is asking Iran to delay downloading data from the Ukrainian airliner. That was shot down near Tehran. In early January as done as Dan Carpenter Chuck reports the new travel limitations. Due to the novel novel Krona Virus are making it difficult to review the information on the flights recordings Canadian officials say travel restrictions because of Cova nineteen are behind the request. Oughta along with other governments that lost citizens in the attack have been pressuring Tehran for months to hand over the flight recorders from the Ukrainian airliner so that the data could be analyzed reached out last week to those affected countries however Canada's Transportation Safety Board now says travel restrictions. Make it impossible. So it's asking Iran to postpone the downloading until restrictions are lifted and once conditions improve Canadian and other countries experts will take part. Iran had promised to surrender the flight recorders by mid March missed that deadline for NPR news. I'm Dan Carpenter in Toronto and this is NPR news.

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The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 308 Pick 6 Week 17

The Tim McKernan Show

24:00 min | 11 months ago

The Tim McKernan Show Ep. 308 Pick 6 Week 17

"Yes yes welcome into the Tim. OCCUREN- show pick six podcast here on the inside. Seo podcast network from the home loan expert Dot Com studios. My name is Timothy Michael. mckernan gangster Pete's on the ones in twos producer. Joe Is on the Mark Hanna. Evergreen Wealth Strategies Phone Lines Angie unit is in the home loan expert Dot Com studios with US IN G unit. Sorry but producer. Joe In the Weatherman had themselves a week last week. How do you do well? This is quite a relief. I was so sick of leading off at every week. This season I repeat might have might be tracking at or Buck swope one or the other. But that's right. I congratulate Joe especially actually just because he's been so so shitty weather man is well both you guys three and one. That's fucking hell. Hell war whether man's now thirty nine or fifty three on the ear. Eight unlocks producer. Joe Forty and fifty three six and ten unlocks. Why you're ending your outer so bad on locks we would have hundreds of games of sample size is on you unlocks? I don't understand but that is the way it is g unit despite a two and two weekend which is in terrible Is still above. Five hundred. Forty seven and forty five seven and nine unlocks but on this money line thing. G Unit is making people money albeit approximately nine dollars per week of the season. But he's plus one forty forty. Meanwhile the weather man you'd be you'd be in a situation where to be you'd be refinancing with Ryan Kelley C.. You could pay your guy the home loan expert dot coms. Were you would go. If you have been following the Weatherman at this point I would hope you're not you may be fading in minus twenty one forty and producer jobs minus seventeen seventy. So I think you're at a point g unit. Where you're you're getting close to to if you if you haven't clinched it? Are you guys deciding your five hundred dollars. Bet based on that money line or based on record I think we're at two fifty this year. Actually AH yeah. It was money line at the beginning of the year. So my only goal was to be over five hundred with with the records But I will find some Really really really far out their dog wait. Is that still your goal just to be over five hundred games. It's mathematically impossible school. Jeff time to reassess the goal real numbers guy list. It's mathematically impossible we've got until the super bowl so there's still plenty of games from going. I love the attitude. There's always a lot of confidence in here. Never any results. That's essentially cast. I would be remiss if I didn't get to bring this up scaling here. We go pete is as me unit. There was is If you remember correctly Tim I was the eighth seed in a fantasy. Baseball did not expect this month. This this is taking naps and went deeper into the playoffs. And the plow boy who at that time mm-hmm was games and browsing and acting like an absolute moron which is just continued on. But on the ninth or the nineteenth of September on your radio show Surprisingly ran his mouth about About counting throws and your team just for the people listening are we're not aware of your fantasy football team's name counting crows and Oh Wow so that I kind of counting crows can. Yeah yeah there. It is fantastic. It's very creative I will have you know counting. We're also once again the eighth seed in the in the football league and I knocked off the one seed. Who is that? And I I don't know I I forget it tight knit. I'm not the Commissioner of the League so I don't who's the commissioner of the football I am out of over two handed it over to Brendan Shaffer and is I just didn't want to deal with it And so much like baseball in the second round of the semifinals. I faced off against Charlie and I'd be Charlie and so I am in the championship round As the eighth seed and surprisingly enough Cabourg and plowed moron on They got bounced in the first round. Wants to know that it is it is true. True statement another thing that the plow boy guaranties and promises promises and whatever he wants to mark his territory with Fails once again. Are those guys coming back for the as police. Peter you come back to the baseball the baseball. Are you going to be running. The Baseball Jones is back. I I have not checked anybody out of the League. Well that was five years ago six years ago seven years ago. It doesn't matter because still just never allow back And I mean I mean he could attempt to send me a panda to make things better but just it's sending a panda or funny pen depend. I think it's beyond fucking prebaked. Tail like gene chose making reference to with the panda. Because I noticed you do due tuned out about eight minutes ago. But he sent a learn Beijing Ninety five a Christmas gift and said You know she knows she tweeted needed. I guess this week that she wanted a panda or something and Agee Center a stuffed panda and Dad for Christmas. Oh wow you gotta comfortable when I told you. And she is a married woman. Oh yeah so. What did she respond about this? She posted it on instagram. Opening it up. I think think part of it was for evidence. It'll be like exhibit exhibit at some point. Oh Wow they're just good friends. Pete I'll tell you these pips are tight man. You can't break like this pips unity. It's like producer Joe and the non gay you know. You can't break these unions him and Pablo layer like a an item now. I was texting with Pete on Saturdays. Said said A couple of different things a couple of different things and I didn't put two and two together that when they said they're gonNA the Blues game that they were going together because I mean I'm for real and odd jobs part of the show for nine years. None of us really. I guess maybe me and show the closest thing to hanging out and we didn't I it's only. We hung out a lot. God nobody really has hung out with each other on the show all these years. Now because people don't like each other but it's just the way that it's wound up working out but now plow Voi- and gangster Peter Hanging out together. I mean when I love Pablo but we went to one hockey. That's how you get started. Six One game jealousy. I'll say this repeat is a is a easy guy to hang out with these got friends all over the place. I met Pete's father yesterday and he's like the most likeable human being going that in common where everybody nobody likes her. Dad's anybody really likes us. G Unit can vouch for that. I absolutely have that going with my wife and I guess that's a good thing that people you know they'll be like okay. He can come along as long as either his father's wife's there that's essentially what I am at this I mean denny. Good people man Great Guy. He's the best. Ah No doubt he is. He's the commissioner of Fantasy League that we're I mean everyone just loves them talk blues and Golf. That's all I wanted to do was great all day. He knows his this sports now. Now he's a good guy Producer Joe all right so you're leadoff hitter because you went plus one ninety five at the cash I was plus one seventy by I. I mean the weather man and g unit was minus twenty NUP. Add Two and two Producer Joe you are the leadoff hitter gangster Pete. I don't even WanNa Games picking out enough for all right here. We Go Ryan Kelly's the home loan expert and he is the sponsor of our studios here on the Tim. mckernan show without him. We don't have a podcast so sure. You're supporting our sponsor Ryan Kelly the home loan expert expert dot com and with interest rates dropping. And this being home buying season this is a prime time to get in and get yourself a great rate and lock doc in or if you want to refinance. Now's the time to do so. Ryan Kelly's the person to do it with. He is online at the home loan. Expert Dot Com Ryan. Kelly the studio sponsor if this program Ryan Kelly the home loan expert dot com just to be clear. I have not checked plowing cable out. Playboy was the one who said he had Only wondering about that happening I thought they were starting their only Peter they They said they were but that that was involved. Some follow through the pips. Aren't that strong yet. There's still some cracks in the potty. Go ahead do your thing here. All right I Gain James. Saturday GONNA be Jameis Winston and Shawn Watson. I'm going over. Forty nine and a half games in Tampa city Pity it's now up to fifty and it's a very very square play. I have a feeling although Jamesy just going to throw the ball. Wherever I think that hits? Every week I think Tampa brought up hit and then it just hits halftime and you're loyal so no Evans Godwin. This Week and unbelievable he can throw on four interceptions. A game I'm throwing paramount's been draftkings Jim over on that fifty what are you got on your second play I'm going the saints minus two and a half against the titans I think the titans after getting their asses kicked last week By the Texans Really hit this week and And just kind of pack it in for the winter I will lay the two and a half with drew. Brees the saints and the Saints Still. I guess playing for something When it's all said and done and then my third game? I'M GONNA go over Manchester City Leicester over three and a half to unity's go minus one twenty-one Chester City game post to the under all right so there it is producer. Joe's I three or in. I actually get to go second. This is a stunning development. Mark Hanna of Evergreen Wealth Strategies can't emphasize enough how important it is to have a a financial adviser but then it's not just any financial adviser at somebody who who knows but cares begin plenty of people. Nobody cares and mark. Hanna helps everyday people every day. Get their finances organized you can in call him at three one. Four eight nine zero five zero three. That's three one. Four eight eight nine zero five zero three or go online to Evergreen St L. Dot Com. His name aim is mark. Hanna Evergreen Wealth Strategies and I can tell you from getting to know mark here over the last year that this is first class person who has your best interests the heart and just calling him at three one eight nine zero five. Zero three is gonNa make you feel better in your on the right track. Mark Hanna. Evergreen wealth strategies three one four eight nine zero five zero three or go online online at Evergreen. St L. Dot Com. The weatherman sent over one two three four five six. But we're only doing four. I said this one of the radio I'll stick with. SMU Mu minus three against Florida Atlantic. These games legal for our game. I don't even know in these bowl. Games start up on Saturday afternoon. Sweet I could a DJ on that. If I wanted to sesame minus three against Florida Atlantic and Boca at the lane trains already in Oxford so he won't be on the sidelines Boise state eight plus three and a half against Washington. Chris Peterson will be sent out by his former team. The weatherman says Boise state players. Love nothing more than being. I guess he meant beating a pack twelve school. I don't see a lot of points in this game. And I think Boise Plus Swan seventy money line is the real play here. Oh maybe should make that just for the hell of it. Don't make that one of my fucking care. Plus one seventy eight boise straight up. Plus one seventy sporty. Yet is forty reporting like Shelby Lynne gas. He'll be Lynn Gash. Who everybody now knows staying staying at our producer? Jovan following that at all. No I Isa Did she get a panda. No she's a girl who put the Christmas lights in the shape of a cock on your parents are parents roof and Somebody posted about it on the fan page and then he invited her to The TMA live tonight. So she's driving from Kansas City to St Charles to do the show and then staying at the Star and Big Al coincidentally it has room now. I mean this is so something's going to happen and I'm GONNA get blamed. I know it's going to happen. He was giving out his sweet number. Says he has the presidential suite read. The motherfucker lives in lake. St Louis Hotel Room by you know you can never be careful better to be safe. Sorry don't drink and drive. I completely completely understand the hotel play. I I I'm sure IGGY will definitely not be creepy with with the GAL shelby gas or whatever Because it's completely unlike him to Really become inappropriate depending on this I I mean the creepy is defending guys. Here he gets infatuated with fucking adult films. Yeah it's close to home. 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You Bet against the public when you need to and Kansas City obviously number one public public bet team this week ninety one percent and that's because on its face. Everyone thinks that Kansas City has the motivation here and and the bears don't want like four yesterday and now it's six. Yeah I I mean boy it gets up to seven I might I might but some pinks on this one crazy but What you think's thinks loves baby take for his very cool? Honda civic curious. Wow God joe worrying one one week in Boston some bitches what you drive. Whenever I hear that I just think of fast and furious furious in there is yeah? I don't I don't know what kind of vehicle you're Dr. I actually celebrate the entire fast and furious. Catalog said that you're the one home and neo So let me get back to the Chicago pick you know. Everyone expects Kansas City to blow it out because they're still in the in trying to jostle for playoff positions. Chicago is out of it. But don't forget what all the talk has been the last few weeks this Mahomes Deshaun Shawn Watson being drafted behind trubisky and now trubisky gets to play at home in cold soldier field conditions against Mahomes. And he's really playing for his job next year and certainly contracts in the future but I Expect Casey to win. Maybe maybe maybe not but if they do win. It's not going to be more than six. I'll tell you that I just love. Chicago's motivation. Which is sneaky motivation? And that's where you find it. Ninety one percent of the public. Jon Casey. I love the bat number. Two Green Bay packers five point five dogs at Minnesota Monday night. Football ball packers really under the radar all season. Hasn't they pete I mean yes. It's pretty bizarre boring to watch. Because you know that that is that is true true and it's bizarre a bunch of different ways because it's bizarre. They're born to watch with Aaron Rodgers but it's the case he's not having a a blowout year by any means It's bizarre that that when the record so good. They're under the radar. Aaron Rodgers actually just called it out last week saying he wanted respect and that's part of the reason why I like this game because a leader like him. Who can you know? Do some magic on the field. You don't expect him to Kinda purposely embarrassed himself because he didn't need to say anything right. I mean I don't know why he said why. We're not getting any respect before this big game against Minnesota on Monday night and it's it's for the division eleven three and no one mentions soon as a threat. Nobody ever Aaron Rodgers. He wanted everyone to know that. That's bullshit so also important in this game dalvin Cook is very unlikely to play a- and he's having a hell of a year he's a very important running back in a very important piece for that team so that hurts Minnesota and don't forget that. Ah Kirk cousins. Historically terrible against the spread in non noon start games not a stat. He's just not good under the lights lights. Not Good. Isn't he. Owns seven or eight and Monday night. All Time Yeah I think that's right. He won earlier on Sunday night. Game right on Monday night. And that's when I learned this stat and that I bet against that game I think that was what against the cowboys. Maybe but so you know you. Whenever you're you're playing against the cowboys you've got a pretty good chance? Dance to win. But but He he just is terrible when he's not playing at noon so don't forget. Also the packers beat Minnesota Twenty one to sixteen to lot's happened since then. But I just love this game looking at everything. No quarterback has the worst Monday night record in. NFL history than Kirk cousins. ONATE I mean look at all those factors first and then you're up and and what about Rogers. I'm sure that he's got one of the best. I mean. At least you would think he would have a good one So all these factors in the line is going the other away. Boy I just love the packers all right third game Cleveland plus nine and a half versus Baltimore. Same kind of factors involved in all these eighty eighty eight percent of the public's on Baltimore at number two public that game This is another kind of tricky motivational game for Cleveland. They are pretty much out of the play offs. I don't think that there possibly if they're not technically out of it. They they really are out of it at six and eight It depends on what they're they're They do against Pittsburgh. I guess but this is an easy letdown week for Baltimore and they if Baltimore wins one of their next to Pittsburgh at home in week seventeen automatically weekly number one seed regardless of what New England or anyone else does so. This is a letdown week in Cleveland dominated in week four so there might be some matchup situations here that you aren't very clear on their face. So I love Cleveland plus nine and a half at home. There is unity now producer. Joe Get his lock of the week. Soccer over is soccer over Spurs and Chelsea over the three. That is a Sunday Late morning start. That's minus one thirty thirty five Marshall plus seventeen and a half against central Florida. They're playing each other the reasoning sprinkling little on Marshall plus six fifty moneyline. Wow how about that. That's a nice pay off of that. Hit Marshall plus seventeen and a half over central Florida Warda says Hypol- US UCF's To nine against the spread is a favourite this year. Imagine this is a bit of a letdown for the knights while marshalls went six or seven including Florida Atlantic Louisiana Tech and Florida international ago unit Miami Dolphins Plus One versus Cincinnati. Bengals fits magic. That's the bad they're just. They're a better team. I don't understand the line really that kind of scares me but you know in their loss against the jets a few weeks ago they had seven field goals in twenty to twenty one loss so did fits magic team so in the week before that. Cincinnati lost huge at home against the jets. Twenty two to six I. I mean if if the dolphins can punch it in the end zone once or twice this. This'll be an easy cover. Miami plus one there it is pick six is in the books producer. Joe On the Mark Hanna. Evergreen Wealth Tragedies Phone Lines G unit in the home loan expert that studios gangster Pete on the ones and twos and thank you for listening to another edition of pick six on the temperature.

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032 How To Teach Your Kids To Eat Healthy

Healthy Eating For Kids

37:22 min | 5 months ago

032 How To Teach Your Kids To Eat Healthy

"Hello and welcome to kids nutrition. Podcast I'm your host by Vandal. A registered paediatric Dietitian based Holly Street. I help you with Fussy. Eating Guzman protein allergy. And also help you plan your Vegan diets? I'm so excited that tuning into the podcast. Let's dive in to lend all about how to empower your child one bite at a time. Welcome back everybody for another episode here at kids nutrition. If you've just found this podcast than welcome. It's a pleasure to have you here and this week. I've got an awesome episode for you. One of my lovely joins agreed to come here on the show and share her journey of raising a healthy e. Dan How she worked through the Fussy eating battles really says. It's going to be an incredible story. I can't wait to share with you but before we dive straight in. I just wanted to let you know that this Wednesday I am running a masterclass. And it's all about how to plan your lunch boxes the going back to school or even if for children's at home how to put together a nutritious meal how to think about immune-boosting foods or prebiotics how to think about the different food groups portion sizes. It's all about putting it together as a how to plan a nutritious means launch often is the main part of the day the main meal for children. And how can you replicate that regardless of whether you're sending your child of the school or you are planning their meals at homes if you'd like to come out that Marzuk laws. It's on Wednesday evening at eight o'clock. There's a link in the show knows you can just click on that it. These are held over zoom. These are live classes. He can ask questions on the day. These are small. Masterclasses is quite nice. We can ask questions you literally taught them in the chat box or you can. Does you know on mute yourself if you feel comfortable and ask the question live. So there's loads of example lunch box ideas and I'll be sharing with the but also how to do it yourself. We'll talk go break it right down. I've got a meal plan tracker that I'll be sharing with you and is going to be great to make sure that you sign up. The link will be in the show notes. Let's get on with this week's interview. If you tuning in the future there will be a recording that you can purchase can listen in your own time and of course you can apply to work with me on a one to one basis so that link to book a Free Corps where we can chat about how we can work together. We'll all be included in the show notes for joining me today. Sofia Varna just lyle. We worked together about a year ago. It's accompli hard. Time has known to introduce yourself. This Abed tell me how we met. Show I'm festival. Thank you for having me I think we met corporate be about a year ago. I think got in touch on own about my daughter-in-law I think what really condos Warwick may was in school in September and I think I visited the school. I think it was march of that year and I asked him to give me a sample menu because food two doors in something. That was a difficult kind of subject in our house and it wasn't always like that. So when I immediately sold the school menu that really debris alarm bells and there were things on which a heritage pirates would think would be quite normal so they were pizza. It was Chicken mashed potatoes chicken curry vegetables but the will compete off limits in our in our household And as I said it didn't it didn't thought like when I was younger. She had Buoyed politics she would eat Qianlong Vegetables Cheese landfall. She would eat all all sorts of things All colors of the Rainbow Mundane things. Start to change. I think probably around when she was nearing three has old are and then you know. When I saw the school menu I saw a k. Something really needs to change share. Otherwise she's GonNa go hungry. I'm not really worried. Bay made it a googling like ICON. Ikuta in touch with yourself and ups. We much like I saw johnny sausage so it was really that the school many that sort of triggered I ve got to sue to get to grips with in. Is Eating that right? Thanks though I think I always knew that was a problem. Intensive the food but she was a tank and I think a lot of are probably kind for myself which reportedly took about a little bit later on but when I saw the school menu. Eli immediately fell on radar it because I don't want to go hungry and not do something and and thoughts on into touch you. I remember I remember the in touch. You did talk about the menu and I sensed that that was a source of anxiety for you. Would you mind taking us through? What a say a typical routine would have been night before we started to work together. guess any sort of like routine intensive meals and snacks and things like that so. I think I would always of particular traits that she would date and I think for me I would always wanna eat something than nothing so I think what happened was iconic Gordon to help it giving the same foods because I need that she would eat them so there were things like Bryson salmon she would. She would eat pasta. The nays she repeats. May Chicken Nuggets so these are some of the things that she would date home. She wouldn't eat sandwiches and I think it's because I didn't offer to her so I thought I think was if on why she wouldn't eat sandwiches and things like that so Very used to offering her the same meals and it was very stressful. Because I was cooking you know two or three meals. Sometimes I'll hide and she would always be something different My son man came along when she was three years in three months and when I started waning him I made it events thought to have today. Three meals not became really school it. It made me really anxious. It might mealtimes not fun. A tool breakfasts were kind of the same which looking egging toast About that would congress be it. She wouldn't have cereals slow anything like that but like I said when she was younger she would. She would top everything lunches were mainly. I hoste pollen as or I try and get vegetables on of in the source code but dinners again were. It was very very stressful. Making a few mills you know. Every dinner time this was And was it anything around? The meals not made you feel stress. What was it about me? Does that stressed out? I know you mentioned that. It took a long time to prepare. Which if you're trying to make three lots of news but within the ounce when it actually came to that main event that made quite stressful always really worried about you. Know have being non nutritional than is very worried about things like calcium because she she wouldn't drink milk. I would be making half read snoopy on Yoga. Sleep great yogurt and some fresh fruits just to give us something like that carnival every day so I which are up to her as and it was. Just really stressful. When I felt I had to keep prompting Hurricane Insane humanoid just let little bit more come on you have to keep on a prompting Hieron it it just became known enjoyable and I think maybe she kinda felt depression also now kind of looking at it as a mother. You want your child to eat. And it's very hard not to focus on not just one main event. I know a lot of people. Stay in Every week and you know and then of taken into on a prospective. It's very difficult when you're so hungry upon what your child is eating and you know. They're difficult ISA DOT com at best of times. It's very difficult when you're sitting down. You're trying to help a family meal and you're serving one thing which is different. And she's taking forty five minutes to an hour to eat said. It's hard not to not to get worried and stressed and anxious and just the whole experience not being fun things. Yes okay and she was around fold when we madison correct shivers. Yes that's fine. Yes it's still young but she would. She have been five and she starts school. Actually what's on five in uptake on the older ones and then of course we met and we had about an allied together. And what did you start to change as us? The start of the journey on I think the Messi play was something which was quite good so getting her involved in in making food which was something which was quite important and she didn't take to it as She would she was quite some novice and anxious about texture fades and. I felt that could be the case because if I would have mashed potatoes she wouldn't. She wouldn't touch mashed potatoes but she chip Five cops into potato wedges. She wouldn't eat it because Different from so the Messi play which was something that was important to try and stop making things together. Getting had seen are joined mashed potatoes. She would she would get involved. Wouldn't use a hand she wants to be some actual whatever she wants but she wouldn't taste it And I wouldn't force her. I just wanted to try and get used to seeing smelling trying to touch if she wanted to different foods. Just to kind of try normalize it a little bit more. Yes yes I mean I need you get on really well with the because I could tell you liked having plans and putting plans in place a lot. I mean it's nice to hear you say that you were surprised that she didn't take two straight away. A lot of parents say that to me and often I say in. Don't worry about it even if your child only spend five or ten minutes language foods engaging with you in the kitchen that still amazing exposure to you know and do carry-on and it's not what did you do like. How did you feel when you imagine it took time Talk and I'm guessing. Inside would have felt by excited and hopeful as Latin. How did you feel when she perhaps rejected session or didn't seem as excited about as you've found behalves immediately your Mice parent support. Be Looking for a quick fix an actual right. You know we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA do this you know. She's going to get involved and know they can make the salmon pools or whatever. I think we made that time. She loves someone. Let's familiar kind of taste in there. And you know rolling off and everything and she said it and he was just like I don't want to try it and I felt disappointed because I thought she might try it because she's got involved and she's a very proud and she loves she loves getting involved and she's creative and not just past that she's very much native but she it was just something about it. Which was designed that? She just didn't feel comfortable comfortable doing. Of course it's full and it makes you upset because you think right if this is gonNA work but it didn't work. So what did you try? Did you play to be give on to? What did you do? I did so next? I tried getting her involved in in making countries Different foods that may be as I said before would be on me school menu Make some of those things together. So pizzas a really good one She would never touch pizza and just like I chased by having pizza so you can imagine things which you would think would be normal for family. Maybe it's kind of enjoyed together role. Maybe would be a goto chuck quite a lot for work. And you know we'll see children at a buffet out. There is one to pay so but in. I will be at the Pasta station so I go. Let's pizza regarded so we we might do excited about on. Tv lights garlic bread. So I saw. Let me try garlic bread with pizza. Because I know she likes garlic bread. So I'll put something familiar with select trots and reading so much about trumping all the peppers and the mushrooms and onions and chillies but the mushrooms in the sweetcorn. She was really excited about so. She made my pizza. She made no seats and she may tell little brothers. Pizza and I think from actually she got really excited. That was the first time I saw her redick sliced about something. We made the garlic fruit Fresh we We'd get the boxer we. Golikov and makes oats gathering. She'd fingers so I thought it was a really good one because actually you tend to use your hands. Toppings on things got so much else we put that in the oven and coming up with An checking if it was ready and she can smell it and then she started. Talking about. Smells smells delicious Norris until a camera GonNa get it but it's fine you know. Let's let's just see what happens and we put it to the table and I got a table and I think that was one of the things that you told me to really get her update on testing the table when doing things Russian soil. And that's what we did. You know we put everything count restaurant-style rich optical table and she stopped at three per day and I remember her putting one pepperoni pizza so she put cheese and she puts the whole and one pepper on there and she has never touched chase recent she was maybe two he'd never touched chased okay. This is interesting. She puts them cheese on top and she has week one a month. I didn't look at her anything about it. I was quite animated animal. But that was something that you said. Be Quite uninvited. You know when you're talking about food type and Dadi myself said this is delicious. Thank you so much for making it for us. It snows the niche goodness. How did you my kit all those things and I saw her taking a bite of the pizza and she said this delicious And just from Ben a K. We've I feel that we've made elite because you've taken a bite of something that you would never have tried before. And then she took a look of the packer and for me. That was fine. I didn't need to eat it. She can look up on that was a great triumphal for us. I think so. The pizza I think was was upset. Apron I think from Benon by then starts to get more involved in making of more more meals and and I think it's stuck really helps. I think of everything I think. Getting her enfold and setting the table on serving everybody. That's really help us and giving her the choice. I think. That's staying really imports. Not Stopping her food for having the choice of putting food in heroic plate and having controller to what you guys in the remote doesn't mazing amazing. It sounds like you just put in place everything we talked about. So that son's really good. How long did that process? Take six say we met in clinic and you try to few different things and you know when. How long did you take us? Thought maybe this could work. Maybe we will start to see her. Try move in ammonia foods. How long did that process? thing. I from her taking the fast bites must've man. I give up in between because a goal really stressful We just GONNA need to break from this. So I don't be six months in total Okay think let's talk about that. Actually 'cause that's way in portion and as lovely as it is to hear about how amazing you've done and you know maybe you could tell us a little bit more about. Would you say so denied it to hear from you and when you said in now that oceans trying all these new foods and that she's a much more food explorer on it's like wow that's great and I'm really pleased. I know that because he's almost been about a year. These things can take time. But I'd love to know how did you deal with the really tough moments? Vickers it so easy to give on but being consistent is really really important and I. I completely agree with you sometimes. You just need to have like a lack of Brag if it started to get really really stressful. How did you deal with those moments? And what was said. That made us decide. Actually I'm GONNA give this another go. I'm ready to get back on that on this the eating Jenny and trying to conquer it in a way. How did you get through that? Like I mentioned before we triple quite a lot so I know you have to be consistent and make things and we chuckle every hall ton. So it's very difficult to be consistent and get her being making foods and stopping home cooked food when when you were ruled and you've got obviously you know the chicken nuggets and chips since that rulers that the Actions that railways that run. It's very difficult. Your holiday will. The kids are on holiday. Say you know. It's to be expected that they would eat differently when So I think I found that a really big challenge I think like I said I would try with the messy play and should wasn't overly excited about about in the beginning but now I saw so. It's an amazing transformation. But I think what really and I did I did give I think it probably maybe for six weeks. I just don't call on this Of another little one. It's I felt I was getting back into bad habits again by just starting to hug the things that she was used to and I feel actually I think we need kind of a break from this. I'm not going to put any pressure on an I'm just GonNa just GonNa off a little bit and not put so much emphasis on that. And then I think we'll have from where she was at school and I think it was three days. She came home and she was really hungry and like more longer than normal. And I said what's not to. Why are you so hungry? Did you eat your lunch? no not really so what does not really mean. What did you have and she said had brought role and I said okay. We'll new manuals because I am a new I will talk to her in the mornings about what was what was on option What was on offer? And she she would say Kay he hesitantly and they would always have a potato option but of course she wouldn't have checked sites that wasn't an option for Harada so she came in for three day she just had a bread. Roll on roll icon. I can't carry on like this. It's it's just too. It was worrying me to the point. I was so scared of her going hungry. And and just you know just just eating and sitting and watching everyone eating and enjoying food might be not but just having her not eat. Anything was stressful. I teach my said look. He's can we try and encourage her little bit comic Try Try something at lunchtime and She sent me. We'll definitely do that. Said why what can I day and I sat down with off school and I think to be only songs fed up arms like right. I've got to go in DP now because I can't carry on like this when I said to her off school Brighton area. I'm how'd you feel about making a menu for the week? Why don't we get out? One of all KIDDY COOKBOOKS. And let's lecture and you can take some of the things that you'd like for to try to cook together. We should talk about why you coloring pens as I said she's very creative and very artistic slots a lot of the shoes. She pulled out her by paper and she got Ha pens together and she cookbook. And she looked things and she said Oh you know this teach looks good. I said okay. We'll put some pizza and I said how about Joel the pictures and you can call them in. So we made mini for the. We can audrey pictures and collect. The men and I would always make sure that when she picked something. I would put something with that she would like. That was another tip that you gave me as well which which really helped pizza golic rides if it was a chicken curry and Bryce with it So it was. I would always put something. I knew that she would like a about that. No I'm GonNa Davis for two weeks. I'm going to do this. Let's take the fast week and then next Sunday. We'll make another plan. We'll do back into the phone week and I got her involved in making three out of. I think it was the three or four males and the first two days. She wasn't openly excited. She would just eat the auction. Not You know she. She enjoys that. She would just topping the chicks Production or the. Osaman option for example. But we don't classified. I'm redid it for two period and I really thought see the change. I think it was Oeste after five six days. Where actually she started to eat the all the things that were conical in her that she could tin and she had cooked herself and she was she started getting really excited about it and she even punk music Mumia. We might need stain. We haven't got to the end of the week yet. She reading about that and it wasn't difficult points. The whole two weeks wasn't smooth sailing but when it got difficult I said to her I think of something else my throat right and I are. Why don't we make food diary so we pay per we stay together and I said right off to you? Finish your meal. What be eaten Julia plates on on? One of Higest Moore on Monday or Tuesday. I you control what you look like on. She upset lost the audience. You don't really executives and thought that really what for us and I think. That was the turning point to where we are. Now you know she really things like heaters and when. I SAT TO FAJITAS FAST. She would never beat in Iraq she would never season chicken And I put chips with it because I I know she. It checks so I gave him the option. She made the rock. She got really excited about it near she. She put missile Zimba thoughts on. You put the chicken and she pepper again. She took little by the pack this time but she took it out which is so. She'll Fajita with the chicken. The the rot. Anshu have some chips on the side with it. And maybe a quarter culpas by up so that was radiologist ptunning point She now I could never imagined that we would be eating as a family. Bruce Dinners and chicken pie and mashed potatoes and you know jacket. Potatoes are on the menu even and things like that so I would never have imagined that she would be where she is now. It's the amazing. We've gone from her only having summit and with past mixed together. I'm she would not eat salmon absolutely any other form to her helping me. Make a seminal crew last week and she loved every bite of it cheaply enough there and it's just made it so much more enjoyable now unless stressful my son's learning which is amazing. Because I didn't WANNA get into bad habits of either. That sounds it. Sounds really really. And what you've described is you've actually picked up on what motivates. Andy views that to help motivate Get get become excited about food and trying in foods so well done. It's sons Radi radio around down and I'm sure it hasn't been easy but I guess all of that investment of your time has been really rainy was why because I know you are very very busy. He Who Antenna still make separate means or would you say actually now is just a family menu that everybody eats from a family menu. Now so what I would do is on On Saturday we would mill plan together so I would botch Cook. The family context them through three meals on site for the week and then in Iowa pick on three meals the had get involved in so she gets invoked three meals for the week as well and then we have the one day will will appetite royal. Have something my Will enjoy family together. But an all-day context three days to cook because having ton of data from scratch every day is quite challenging but I would dedicate three days that she she and my son help with together on digital family mill so for example today we had a rice denied. It was upset amazing because I could make one. I embrace chicken and vegetables and she'll eat rice potato is not to me is just. It's it sounds so simple but really these were completely off limits off limits before and it that makes it worth while as well because it is an investment in time. Isn't it helping your child have the confidence to try new foods? And if you had to think back to a year ago what do you think was preventing have from you know being open to try new foods? What you think was coding her back. I think it was myself not giving her the opportunity. I if I did back then trust myself to take the risks actually serve up family meal and Fajr to Say Really Nice Kit. That's okay because as adults we everything kind of on site Is going to like everything that they you know. They've been offered so for me if I trusted a little bit more and just you know so I'm GonNa make a race do next. I see what happens? I wouldn't data. I would make a voice dinner for myself and my husband didn't talk her up high pasta and Olin as or whatever it might have been incited and she would see idiot and I almost feel bad. Actually I didn't because I wouldn't even offer I would automatically just to see that. She's not completed going to give it to I'm not was. That was my angel. I think so if I had taken those chances Fund trusted myself earlier. I think actually we might have made progress quicker than what we have but better late than never. I suppose I mean. As long as she's she can get involved and talk about food and enjoy the smells and textures than enjoy sitting with our friends around the table. You know enjoying lunch together than the time investment. It's it's two hundred sent well and what brought this learning from this as well. It's I think it's it's invaluable. You know he'll pick up you know he'll say mommy. I really liked the financial in his nineties off. So we're going into what direction and he'll enjoy voiced with us as well also hopefully office time changes cost. Sounds like a dream come. True sounds really wonderful. And thank you for being honest. It is difficult And it's a difficult journey and there's lots of reflections as part of this journey but it does sound like you both grown from it and you've been able to take a lot of lot of Massachusetts and is there. I guess is there anything that you'd like to share with other other parents who are listening and who are maybe at the early stages and thinking about starting to tackle the faucet eating but they're not really sure which direction to go because all of the only information that we shed? I you could read up online. There's lots of ideas on social media and so on and so on. What do you think was health food for you when we checked together? What do you think dot sort of brought to you in? A to get you started. I think you're right social media and googling I think you know it can be great for some things but social media especially this. Lots of great ideas recipe. Ideas and things like that from from influenza is very influences but it's very difficult not to compile and I think that's something I would do is St Charles Eighteen. You know proclaimed keen Lauren. Sweet potato or whatever else it is and why not during nine date. They eat it. Even touch is very very easy to compare yourself to others. One thing I would say it's great recipe ideas and and trying new things and that's what I use it full but really I would say. Is You know your own individual child. And you know. What motivates them And seeking professional advice. I think is something not I wish I did. Because you can really talk through works for what you think would what for you as a family. And what wouldn't let few as a family and then come up with a suitable plan that you can actually fly because there's lots of conflicting advice in. Yeah I find. I found myself trying lots of different things that I would see on social media do would google. I would immediately twats finances and I think as in society. We always want announces on. I think going to a professional and really talking through like I said you'll will your own family situation Sangu. This is what I think is realistic. And actually I caught Speaker tropical lower. I worked for now. Whatever it might be coming up with a on night before that you like and like I said it is difficult. You'll get into a new thing actually tough. I didn't expect it to go like this. I thought this would be a quick fix. Actually there isn't a quick fix that you need to some might take to it better than this but for me. It wasn't a quick fix. It was something not I had to change course a few times. I've grown in touch with the Times was a few things I could do in a few like couldn't do for various reasons wiping really speaking to professional. I'm getting advice individual choice for you and your family. I think what one does for us. Thank you for also talking about you. Know I'd everybody just says he do look on social media anything all. That looks so amazing. Why is in my fun during that out sometimes edited go? Wow that looks amazing. Create a beautiful looking like that so I think we've all been there but you social needed really is just a snapshot of the best records. Let's moment and that's not real nice and like you said it is. It isn't a quick fix. Nothing that is and is not a race. It is a journey. Any junk rated. I knew you would of but I knew you wanted creek resolve love. I sorta real the name you could tell that you wanted this to be to be sorted as quickly as possible but also in light plans and I knew you would follow through and know be open to tweaking and personalizing icing it. In whatever would work for in. I knew it's really pleased. You are where you are today. And while done for particularly in a time and effort dedication that goes into empowering your child to try new is not easy so thanks for sharing. You know those difficult. Moments with others herb. Another parents tuning in will also field dot in effect going through a quite a difficult moment in this journey that they will feel excited and motivated to get back on the way and if yes try give it another go one day at a time. Any other last pieces of advise of errands before we pumped white. I think if if you've tried areas things are just say you know don't white because the earlier you can get into it. I think the best And Hopefully West on shutting off Pinola full volleyball life skills for for the rest of her life where actually she can go out and socially enjoy a meal with friends and cook. Reading is fine. Cook meals for her family and children. Absolutely and I'm looking forward to receiving recipes from exit sounds rate recipe or a so. I'm pleased to share over. Thank you so much stuffy. Shed so much. Thank you It's it's on honestly an half. You share your story and I really hope that will inspire other families to take action as love. Thank you say thank you and thank you feel advice in in your help along the way I mean like I said seeking it professionals at Faucet Radi bring some sense to the situation because sometimes you don't think he was straight thank you. Thank you for saying that you really really you know and I know this keeps them awake at night and they worried show. Yes if you've been thinking about working with me do get in touch. I'll probably link in the show on how to apply to work with me. You can book pay free and we can chat about my services and whether they might for you by.

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Hard Factor 1/15: WTF Wednesday: A Man Takes Bull Viagra Has 3 Day Long Erection, Divorce Case Settled Over Duel To The Death?

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Hard Factor 1/15: WTF Wednesday: A Man Takes Bull Viagra Has 3 Day Long Erection, Divorce Case Settled Over Duel To The Death?

"Would it is Joe Man Randy savage. This factor in there is no one that does it better now nobody. It doesn't matter go ahead. Tell me something right down four And welcome to another episode of factor brought to you by Barstool News Network. It is Wednesday January fifteenth. So it's in practice day. She broke did much his last day. Doing that. Trying to trying to sell a higher bar here is going to be real great on the good mornings next day after three or four days New Orleans. Let's see got no voice right now. We haven't talked to him only early Texas. So that's all we know for the LSU tigers flunking beat. The clemson targets were delight. Hey also this is pat my bad uploading the wrong podcasts castle yesterday in the morning if you listen to this show this morning and it was the show from Monday. I'm an idiot really like that show. I just thought it was great. Show thought Yup. Let's give it to him again. Time worked today is today. Is what the fuck Wednesday which means it's listener. Submitted Weird asked stories so this is your show. These are all stories that listeners. Damned US or Commented on social media. Let's get right the fuck into it. West is GonNa take it away West. All right guys this one is from Michael Rook. Thank you Michael. I'm in some lock. That would make sorry three things and it looks like he's going to submit the articles of impeachment Over the Senate. They're preparing for trial next week. That's one at Delta airplane returning to lax emergency landing dumped a whole mess jet fuel on an elementary school playground. Saddam grew children with with with jetfoil and then more than forty. Forty thousand have evacuated the city of Get in the Philippines as a very substantial eruption of the Talbot Keno could be the. I represent the lightning. There's some beautiful interrupted. West had to get the big news out of the West Gary Beautiful. All right guys Michael Roof. Thank you again. In some luck that would make anyone think God may not exist a a sixty one year old man from Toledo. Nick Nichols was helping was being helped by an armed helping our man loaded table at Booz outlets showroom room in Effingham Illinois when the customers gun accidentally went off and shot Nichols severely Effingham. So Nick Nichols is helping a guy who's armed. Yeah holstered or it's like it's like not concealed carry and they were just setting up a table. fumbling around exerting too much energy probably was like like hopping on the truck that I'll get in the truck you handed to me and then almost share guarantee it was not a we the people who is there no definitely not was there. No dog to blame unfortunately in our so Luckily the did not hit any vital organs but nichols was still Rushed to the hospital via ambulance for emergency surgery. But on the way to the hospital all the fucking ambulance was t-boned causing Nichols who was secured in a stretcher He's a bad day to start with. Yeah and I'm sorry but the image the mantle helpless in a stretcher and then getting hurled around and amulets made me think And laugh because it maybe think of the various bad luck scenes that Norberg. OJ Simpson from naked gun. Had The wheelchair chasing the baseball game. Just made me laugh. It's not funny. This one's real and definitely not funny because the man already on the way to the hospital then suffered a fractured tailbone. Famer and partially fractured action pelvic bone do the accident. Those injuries are proving even more damaging for the sixty one year old man than the initial bullet wound. He's alive though right. That's really tough story to tell people. People like Whoa wait. What happened to you you've got shot? And then what happened what do you want. What do you want to know the first or second? How'd you get shot? How'd you break your femur? It's a trump if anyone's like I'm having some bad luck as like well let me just tell you a little story. I got shot and that was the beginning. Do we know anything was the gun out. Is there any details about the gun. No I'm sure. It was just whole sturdy. Did he like they got caught on his shirt or some guy wants to admit to like doesn't work. That way omits link what he did he probably I guarantee he was like showed him. I meant check this out. Stretch treschow cool trick with showed him the gun. Yeah yeah maybe so So yeah he those injured and are now proving to be more damaging. Set The table upright next time according due to Nichols his wife Cheryl. He is quote not doing well. Oh though the surgery was successful authorities have ruled the shooting as a complete accident. but damn that that dude you'd have had he been more responsible this fucking gun. He would not have set off. The chain reaction plagued this guy for the rest of the guy that shot them rushing to the hospital and he got he was going to different route. I feel terrible. I gotta get their hospital. beat the so now we can never be friends. Yeah so hopefully is now enjoying his fine new table and booze outlet. Wants everyone to know that you need not shoot their staff in order to get the high quality customer service and products that booze is known for. Oh Shit he was at work he was a staff member. I believe helping this customer loaded. Little fucking table triple bad and taking the Internet Craig. Barnes the only comment you can find says what a bunch of rednecks worker's comp the you're right that's true you does years worth. It does pay get hurt on the job. He he just retired him is what he did easily. Yeah so guys for everyone who knows me. This is from this is well. This is from Charles longtime listener many many stories from St Charles over the past year. But everyone who knows me knows that one of my dreams is to be a hot chick on instagram. It just seems like the best job possible just hanging around aww posting pictures of my hot body just catching so many likes out of such high health cy self-esteem fifty grand could be no. This isn't the first time I've heard you say I wouldn't make money. But it's a dream of mine every time. I wish I could do that. But just not in the cards for me. Because I wasn't born accurately jealous then usually say something thing Insulting towards that you want to be under my breath and usually I want to be those now publicly. 'cause I don't 'cause anyway look. I wasn't Warren stacked and I'm thirty four inherent fat so it remains a dream and based on a growing trend. It's probably one. I will never realize as much like the occupation of truck drivers and radiologists the days of listing hot girl on Instagram on your tax returns are numbered watch God mouth and that's because hot robots have begun posting being photos photos on social media. What do you mean what do you? What do you mean I'm talking about hot? Robots like the sex dolls. That kind of look real not Rome talking about digital supermodels let are they tangential. No No. You can't stop them. That's the that's the only difference. Okay look with their hot there hot Yeah and they also kind of look weird sometimes some kind of a comment but they look strange. You don't sometimes you see a model and you're like plastic interesting with these kinda hot robots. That's our goal all female brother female and yes they will eventually eventually get much better looking more real. It's part of growing crop of digital instagram models. That are programmed exclusively Rosalita gain followers and make cash and this is really bad news for the future of human instagram. Hot Chicks especially when you think about it from perspective economics like it takes a human instagram hot chick. At least eighteen years to reach maturity at eighteen years of food eighteen years of clothing two semesters at Asu the cost can really add up. Whereas digital a digital hotpot could just be hot on its first and INSTAGRAM's I Dave Awareness? Come on as soon as you imagine. Though when they have like a influence or conventions the the looks the some of these human girls are going to be giving the robots when they have to bring the robots robots. Aren't they would show up like digitally Hologram. Okay that's what I'm trying to find that it's not it's it's not a physical no they're not actual robot when they when they show up when they show up to the influence or booth and the booth next to him is three nerds that then put up a Hologram. Yeah they're gonNA be pissed exactly exactly created this. This is You know some some name Savannah and she's a while. Yeah so this is big business. Guys then People are creating these instagram hotties. These things have fucking millions of followers. They're making cash. According to New York Post last year the creators of Hotbot. Low Michaela It looks like a fourteen year. Old Girl Who is the first and most widely recognized bought influence her with one point eight million followers? They were handed one hundred twenty five million from investors according to tech crunch. It's a lot then in in October. Two thousand eighteen. The virtual girl landed the coveted job at dazed magazine as an arts editor. What the fuck does not even meet? So the guys that program our programming cramming the fucking days magazine art section. I Dunno anyway huge cash. We have a a comment from our hotline. That I think is relevant. Okay Little Michaela. This is looks like a child. Exactly and not real that doesn't look real pedophile tonight. into safer pedophile to maybe do then if you follow them people can see who's following these fucking freaks following this robot descending on hold on hold on the robot though that's bullshit that looks like a fucking robot you're looking at just low Michaela looking at all of them. There's one girl on there who someone someone common it's like it's like you're not even real. You're so beautiful. Oh really so so. Let's take it to the Internet for an audio comment from from our audio hotline. What's our number me? We'll pull it up. We'll drop our audio hotlines. You can leave voicemails. We'll play your comments on the show but I think I thought this one was was is pretty relevant. Three Siva then will become the largest supply of military computer systems all stealth bombers upgraded with cyber then computers becoming coming forty unmanned after. What's the Florida perfect operational record? The skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes online on August. Fourth Nineteen Ninety seven mm-hmm human decisions are removed from strategic defense. skied begins to learn the geometric rate. It becomes self aware to the AM eastern time. August twenty. The ninth in a panic dried for the plug. Okay thanks for that comment. Pretty pretty good ominous. If you asked me yeah pretty good listener at I'll learn also awesome. Okay guys this one is from at Trevor Underscore Collins five you guys have pets. You've had pets week leading but yeah you know. Oh that feeling when your pets get out the worst especially when it's will's dog and it's their responsibility not a better leader way. Better bring a bite your tongue down the street in the neighborhood. Yeah exactly it's like or at least seen panicked pet owners searching for the pets. It's just like you said it's scary. It's stressful it. Sucks there that yeah nothing worse than calling will heart factor will on fourth of July and tell them that I lost his dog. That was real bad. Yeah Yep Tough Day. We found the dog. Well now imagine being seventy two year old Ohio man. Lowly slowly garber and having your cattle get out at least twenty eight times. It's pretty straight eight at least twenty eight. He cited warned her convicted twenty eight times since since two thousand eleven for having his cows loosed on the road or in the ditch in the area near State. Route One twenty-one us thirty-six Darke County Ohio. So mark let me. I started when you said the name. Willie Garber e Arbor and when you said farmer and you said Twenty eight time figuring twenty eight times. The animals have escaped over the course of forty years. No nine years Chief Deputy Mark Whitaker said deputies have been called to garbage residents six times since August. Twenty nine so so six times in the past like five six months and that they cited him for those times. Apparently he wasn't excited. Every time deputies were called because sometimes garbage been able to wrangle his cows back in before the deputy arrives betsy sue. Get back here. Just where the heck do you think you wouldn't sunshine or you're GonNa get me in trouble. We talked about this. This guy's a shitty farmer hands down. Yes it's gotten so bad municipal court judge Julie. MONON found garbage guilty of animals at large public roadway and sentenced him to three to serve three days in jail in recent like this past month. And guess what happened while he was in jail. I don't know what happened house out again. Yeah this guy not believing locks just got defensive. A cow is the easiest thing to to keep inside of something. It's a gate. They have those cattle guard. Work Lakers arm. He doesn't lock the gate. Whitaker the again the chief deputy. I said he's unique. Talking about lowly garber we don't have farmers or animals owners who are as negligent as this. He's just not learning his lesson carbs negligence this is caused quite a few roadway incidents and accidents in two thousand thirteen a truck hit garbage cow in May of two thousand nineteen a motorcycle. Hit loose garber and well. It didn't mention what what happened there. But that doesn't sound good. And in December of two thousand nineteen there were two reports of cars hitting garber scouts. One driver remained at the CNN gave an accident report. Well one driver fled fled the scene but if anyone really wanted to find him he's the guy or Gal at the cow sized Denton his car. Yeah surprise you pay for free ranch meat. You know what I mean. Yeah okay guys before we move on. It's time for the best part. What about the news? And that's being able to gamble on it. You can gamble on the news with us all you need to do is go to. WWW dot predicted dot org slash Promo Slash Heart Factor Twenty Crete and account and Despu spa deposit at least twenty dollars. And you'll get that free twenty no strings attached. The Shit is legal in all fifty states I deposit with my debit card and withdrawal winnings directly to my checking account count and speaking of winnings. I'm sure that all the hard factor boys won a ton of money on the debates last night. And we will tell you. We don't know at the time this recording. But we did we might say just that's like we will Dallas you tigers to the win a willingness to big wins on predicted debate markets. Daddy's GONNA withdrawal four figures couple Alpha cash but the debate is over so let's talk other markets to gamble on the they added like twenty markets in the past. Dan predicted who'll lead the realclearpolitics pulling that the US for the Iowa Democratic Democratic caucuses on January thirty first Biden's and leader forty nine cents. Sanders is at forty three which I like pizza. Pizza fifteen warns at eight. Who are pulling for New Hampshire sure Democratic primary on January thirty? First I don't have those odds. I like Sanders there again. How large the front runners are? CPI lead beyond January thirty first like zero two point. Four percent point five percent onto one percent stuff like that. Let's and the one. I like the most which Democrat candidate will drop out next non glitches around twenty cents. Divall Patrick who who. Oh Duval Patrick has been lighting up. The campaign trail is at twenty four. All of our hearts Michael Balance at twenty four cents John. Delaney's twenty four cents stiers twenty cents. Tulsi Gabbard said eighteen cents and Yang. Who didn't make the last debates at four cents? I feel like half those people are already out there. Just not officially out. Yeah so if you can't do a police sketch of a candidate by Now they're out in my opinion. Yeah can we talk about the dark horse. The thing that really might be light up markets pretty soon was that which is Bloomberg Bloomberg's climbing up the pulse Z's getting some market share and a couple of different places third place tied with Warren now in some pulse British. Pretty interesting because I wanNA keep an eye on Sunday. Keep an eye on if you've seen Blooberg at any of these polls Bloomberg's polling like like a trump two thousand sixteen type shooting up the ranks coming up quick There was like I said there's twenty about twenty nine polls Markets unpredicted go to www predicted dot org slash promo chromosomes heart factor. Twenty and make some money on the news with us. All right. Moving on to some comes from Mr Woody. There's guys. I'M GOING TO ADMIT I. I love vigilante videos on Youtube. When of the person or persons You know take the law into their own hands and and it can. It can make some very entertaining video. Doesn't yeah exactly. For example. When like older brother Dad finds out like a pedophile stocking? Their sister daughter online than they lured that person to the house and gives You know a lesson with fists in Word Talk Radio Those don't exist once yeah. Vigilante pedophile. Beatings yeah really. Yeah you want as you said once evening plan once you see like one vigilante video video you go down a rabbit hole. Yeah speaking of which West what did you think of the Vigilante Video of the best buy lady who would stop to the The robber stealing stuff. and that's by video. Especially because you worked at best buy. I actually saw a security guard at best buy so don someone and it was amazing. I worked at best. Buy Yeah She has the mark she got hired by you. You say she was. She's like offensive linemen like like she. She has taught me she crushed student. But these kind of videos even better because these are people that don't even have any kind of place of authority like a security guard. They bring other people into their homes and beat the shit out of okay. Okay I meant these vehicle wants but yeah exactly So one couple possibly inspired by those videos definitely inspired but as we just decided to create their own vigilante video series to post on Youtube and make some cash yeah but this one was centered around bike thieves so Corey Corn Nut and Savannah Grellet of Vasilyev California. We're tired of their bikes being stolen. Or they just WanNa make some fucking easy money so to teach the local bike thieves lesson they set up a catch and beat operation in which they left an unchained bike in front another house and then watched baseball bats in hand until a thief. Pounds and The couple would then burst from their home in this nice looking neighborhood sometimes in broad daylight chase down the thief and beat them with bats. Wow and apparently they live stream. Have we watch these videos. So what happens is like the videos are poorly made because they it ends up that they go off screen focused on the beatings not the cinematography in grill. It sounds like a law firm. That will certainly lose your case. That's true yeah so Shitty restaurant. Yeah yeah so they were not grill. Well it yeah yeah so that now. They're being They're they're they just four times in the and they're now facing charges of assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. I mean. Can you imagine Pete car except beat the shit out of what exactly can you imagine. Just watering your lawn and then seeing chorine savannah whom you probably had like beers with the night before chasing someone down with a bat and it's a nice looking neighborhood. It's hilarious stunt gotten city bikes and then put shit on them. On the handlebars there's another. That's another great vigilance. Videos like when they tied the bikes to a rope. And then they they have someone laying down down a hill and they'd just get propelled by those. Those are awesome. What's your theory on how this escalated to this point where they were? They got some bike store. I think they a needed some. They they just saw it as a way to make some youtube cash. I think really. I think that's the main well we should. We should take inspiration and I think it was a cyclist thing. You don't think it was like she. She came home. It's like someone's got my bike again. He's honey it could be. Cyclists are crazy. I got the ultimate story to just. We should do this too so just wanted to make county. Okay okay. I'm in some cash cash cash down a little little You know notoriety so going to Internet. Oh sorry none of the victims sustained life-threatening under injuries. They just said you bruised egos and tired legs from having to walk home but let's take the Internet. John McCain says good on them had my giant defy advanced lance pro. So there's a cyclist nerd stolen a couple of months ago and with love ten minutes room on my own with the wanker longtime John. Ten minutes is a long the fights last two minutes tops and then Brian Dan eaves keep nerve the whole time. Yeah he's not GonNa do anything Brian Eve says good on this couple bike. Thieves deserve a good beating. Hospital and feeding tube and wheelchair comes to mind L.. Awhile cry face laughing face. So cyclists are very intense about stolen. Is there's a bummer right. But I wouldn't want I wouldn't want someone of a feeding tube because of no no no not at all okay. So that's that archives. This one's from Ian another early or at on Netflix I'm calling the segment. Terrible investments to avoid corner. Yeah so if the site of your money just makes you so sick that you want to let your money no how little it actually means to you. Then listen up. What if I told you that? A futuristic new. 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Guys you get the fucking lawyers involved your life savings and property is up for grabs not to mention if you have kids good Lord and then you assume at some point you're battling the love your life that you at some point of your life you hate each other right at the very least. Obviously you can't live with each other now even if it's amicable divorce whereas like the biggest stupidest looking bullshit divorce which France. Each other just sat home with a cellphone X. Y. Bullshit chat sometimes a Kansas. She's dead to you. Mary candice this Man Forty Year. Old David Ostrom whose divorce is going through an Iowa. Divorce court hates divorce even more than I just described. He has even asked the court to grant has motion to be able to face his ex wife and or her divorce lawyers on the field of battle in the fight to the death court fight to the death. He filed out comment. He says he goes on to say he will render their souls from their corporal bodies. Respond Guy got knocked over court on this guy might might lose the divorce proceeding post. This opposed to Warsaw claims. He claims court documents that his ex wife Brigitte Ostrom mm-hmm Harlan said. She destroyed him legally through the divorce proceedings and he wants twelve weeks of lead time so he can find or forge a Catanha or I can't even pronounce the name of the sword for the fight to the death. And he said a walkies ashish. Yeah sure sure. To this day he said trial by combat has never been explicitly supposedly banned by any court of law in the United States and that they used to do it up until eighteen eighteen in the British court. So he's in. He's he wants his bat. He seems to be especially upset with his ex exciting legal precedent. That's everybody wants so there's a long guest. Yeah he said especially added as experts. Attorney Matthew Hudson. WHO said was so absurd during the divorce proceedings that all he's doing this by challenging them to fight to? The death is matching Hudson's absurdity. He wants it to be a fair fight. One on one as will represent his side and his ex wife can either step up and represent her side or sent Hudson in her champion. So this guy has got to be pretty pissed about the last season. Game of thrones sentiments. Yeah I see a restraining order in the skies future. I see dateline in in this. Guy's not only a restraining line producers. Listen Up Matthew. Hudson responded with surely Oh strongman corporal. He he spelled it correctly. Bodies which Robert Webster defines US having consisting of relating to a physical material body and then he also asked the course to suspend ostrom child visitation rights Oh yeah so he punked and how many said you're not going to be able to see the kids anymore you cycle. Listen that will make a man insane it will like if it will make you crazy. oestrus saint when when questioned. He requested that that that the courts spent his wife's visitation rights or vice versa. That's what motivated. They're not following. Yeah he lost the divorce right. He has some visitation tation rights. Post divorce he wants to challenge his ex wife for her death. And the and the lawyer respond with. You'RE GONNA now we're going to take away your visitation rights because you're still when questioned on if a fight to the death was a little extreme ostrom said that traditionally trials by combat either ended in death. Or we're one one one of the parties Chris Craven so sounds like he would accept craven being screamed and would hold back the death blow if if there was scream. So that's good news. Oh this guy just lost every cries craven. Jesus Christ is lost it for the show. I want to see a picture of him. Yeah Poor Baby Uh we please get this guy on the show. I don't want them to know where we live now. No not at all. I WanNA follow on Youtube. Those training videos going to great all right guys got a great one from Larry. The Great Nice We have all heard of drinking tiger blood. You know to energize and ready for some hot action problem is it's hard to get Charlie. It's hard to get your hands on actual tiger's his blood highly illegal unless you got a guy. I mean Chinese guy so you have on the field of the superdome. The you know what I'm saying Tiger Rama. Yeah turn to other additives like Viagra or Rhino twenty-five thousand or swag whose tagline is sex with a grudge the attorney those alternatives to get the juices flowing post going for that swag have an alibi So you have turned other other alternatives trying to get the juices flowing and Dick rock-hard but one man in Veracruz Mexico decided he was going to take it to the next level when it was time for some sex with hot thirty year. Old Woman on a trip to Mexico. Oh by taking a stimulant that is essentially Viagra but for bulls young. That's right he's going to get your heart. He took a bull breeding stimulant and and I'm not sure what he planned on doing to that. Poor woman But he certainly wasn't taking chances of not following through on his promise he made fucker like bull. Oh my Mike. Oh Yeah so Dr. His Penis felt like the aliens. Mouth and alienated sprouting penises raking picking through another Penis Gordon. So doctors moulting it skin. Yeah totally totally normal. Yeah tough one. Bad game captain. America was the Red Skull Red Skull. Yeah doctors quote said he had taken a sexual stimulant went which he had bought in Veracruz used by farmers in that region to invigorate bulls for insemination. The problem is the man is not a two thousand pound bull but an average size man so he unfortunately was left left with an erection that lasted for three days. No ours is the Max. Consult a doctor after four hours. According to worship waited waited three days he waited three days hours. Seventy two hours So he lasted for three days and it was so bad that he had to have emergency surgery at a border town around called Rinos cutting off almost made it home but he was like. I can't do it so it must be pretty bad. How much you WANNA bet? That wasn't the first time they'd have to do that. Surgery Probably Yeah Oh is guys done. They're selling hugging bullfighter into the story was. It's not the first time they've had to do emergency snow. No yeah there was. There was a couple of this guy. You're not going you're not soliciting Viagra. Someone someone's coming to you and be like. Hey Man I got a pretty lady there. I'm pretty sure the the you gotta you gotTa have some sort of some momentum. Amputation yeah I I mean you're you're you're of the pianist. I guess the blood vessels can explode. I don't know how it works to save your life. Sometimes you lose a penis man and think about that sex they gotta like scalpels. Okay all right so yeah so no word on whether the woman is still alive or how the man's penis is doing to. She's pretty sore so but Yeah don't take She's on dating APPs Magara and that's going to do it for heart factor Thanks to anyone that tuned into our live debate stream last night for those of you. That didn't No thanks they'd be given but you have a few more cracks. Getting thanked in February as there are some thing like three debates in February. I don't know this yeah. This is Mark Microsoft is so go ahead hat. Keep going okay anyway. You want Florida misspelled. It's it's all spelled correctly. wrote it for you give forgive respectively. Start over and that's going to do it for heart factor. Thanks to anyone that tuned in to our live debate stream last night for those of you. That didn't know thanks needs to be given You have a few more cracks getting thanked in February as there are something like three debates in February or not. 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Hard Factor 1/15: WTF Wednesday: A Man Takes Bull Viagra Has 3 Day Long Erection, Divorce Case Settled Over Duel To The Death?, Akon's Planning His Own City

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Hard Factor 1/15: WTF Wednesday: A Man Takes Bull Viagra Has 3 Day Long Erection, Divorce Case Settled Over Duel To The Death?, Akon's Planning His Own City

"Would it is Joe Man Randy savage. This factor in there is no one that does it better now nobody. It doesn't matter go ahead. Tell me something right down four And welcome to another episode of factor brought to you by Barstool News Network. It is Wednesday January fifteenth. So it's in practice day. She broke did much his last day. Doing that. Trying to trying to sell a higher bar here is going to be real great on the good mornings next day after three or four days New Orleans. Let's see got no voice right now. We haven't talked to him only early Texas. So that's all we know for the LSU tigers flunking beat. The clemson targets were delight. Hey also this is pat my bad uploading the wrong podcasts castle yesterday in the morning if you listen to this show this morning and it was the show from Monday. I'm an idiot really like that show. I just thought it was great. Show thought Yup. Let's give it to him again. Time worked today is today. Is what the fuck Wednesday which means it's listener. Submitted Weird asked stories so this is your show. These are all stories that listeners. Damned US or Commented on social media. Let's get right the fuck into it. West is GonNa take it away West. All right guys this one is from Michael Rook. Thank you Michael. I'm in some lock. That would make sorry three things and it looks like he's going to submit the articles of impeachment Over the Senate. They're preparing for trial next week. That's one at Delta airplane returning to lax emergency landing dumped a whole mess jet fuel on an elementary school playground. Saddam grew children with with with jetfoil and then more than forty. Forty thousand have evacuated the city of Get in the Philippines as a very substantial eruption of the Talbot Keno could be the. I represent the lightning. There's some beautiful interrupted. West had to get the big news out of the West Gary Beautiful. All right guys Michael Roof. Thank you again. In some luck that would make anyone think God may not exist a a sixty one year old man from Toledo. Nick Nichols was helping was being helped by an armed helping our man loaded table at Booz outlets showroom room in Effingham Illinois when the customers gun accidentally went off and shot Nichols severely Effingham. So Nick Nichols is helping a guy who's armed. Yeah holstered or it's like it's like not concealed carry and they were just setting up a table. fumbling around exerting too much energy probably was like like hopping on the truck that I'll get in the truck you handed to me and then almost share guarantee it was not a we the people who is there no definitely not was there. No dog to blame unfortunately in our so Luckily the did not hit any vital organs but nichols was still Rushed to the hospital via ambulance for emergency surgery. But on the way to the hospital all the fucking ambulance was t-boned causing Nichols who was secured in a stretcher. He's having a bad day to start with. Yeah and I'm sorry but the image the mantle helpless in a stretcher and then getting hurled around and amulets made me think And laugh because it maybe think of the various bad luck scenes that Norberg. OJ Simpson from naked gun. Had The wheelchair chasing the baseball game. Just made me laugh. It's not funny. This one's real and definitely not funny because the man already on the way to the hospital then suffered a fractured tailbone. Famer and partially fractured action pelvic bone do the accident. Those injuries are proving even more damaging for the sixty one year old man than the initial bullet wound. He's alive though right. That's really tough story to tell people. People like Whoa wait. What happened to you you've got shot? And then what happened what do you want. What do you want to know the first or second? How'd you get shot? How'd you break your femur? It's a trump if anyone's like I'm having some bad luck and as like well let me just tell you a little story I got shot and that was the beginning. Do we know anything was the gun out. Is there any details about the gun. No I'm sure. It was just whole sturdy. Did he like they got caught on his shirt or some guy wants to admit to like doesn't work that way. He doesn't like what he did he probably I guarantee he was like showed him. I meant check this out. Stretch treschow cool trick with showed him the gun. Yeah yeah maybe so So yeah he those injured and are now proving to be more damaging. Set The table upright next time according due to Nichols his wife Cheryl. He is quote not doing well. Oh though the surgery was successful authorities have ruled the shooting as a complete accident. but damn that that dude you'd have had he been more responsible this fucking gun. He would not have set off. The chain reaction plagued this guy for the rest of the guy that shot them rushing to the hospital and he got he was going to different route. I feel terrible. I gotta get their hospital. beat the so now we can never be friends. Yeah so hopefully is now enjoying his fine new table and booze outlet. Wants everyone to know that you need not shoot their staff in order to get the high quality customer service and products that booze is known for. Oh Shit he was at work he was a staff member. I believe helping this customer loaded. Little fucking table triple bad and taking the Internet Craig. Barnes the only comment you can find says what a bunch of rednecks worker's comp the you're right that's true you does years worth. It does pay get hurt on the job. He he just retired him is what he did easily. Yeah so guys for everyone who knows me is this from this is well. This is from Charles longtime listener many many stories from St Charles over the past year. But everyone who knows me knows that one of my dreams is to be a hot chick on instagram. It just seems like the best job possible just hanging around aww posting pictures of my hot body just catching so many likes out of such high health cy self-esteem fifty grand could be no. This isn't the first time I've heard you say I wouldn't make money. But it's a dream of mine every time. I wish I could do that. But just not in the cards for me. Because I wasn't born accurately jealous then usually say something thing Insulting towards that you want to be under my breath and usually I want to be those now publicly. 'cause I don't 'cause anyway look. I wasn't Warren stacked and I'm thirty four inherent fat so it remains a dream and based on a growing trend. It's probably one. I will never realize as much like the occupation of truck drivers and radiologists the days of listing hot girl on Instagram on your tax returns are numbered watch God mouth and that's because hot robots have begun posting being photos photos on social media. What do you mean what do you? What do you mean I'm talking about hot? Robots like the sex dolls. That kind of look real not Rome talking about digital supermodels let are they tangential. No No. You can't stop them. That's the that's the only difference. Okay look with their hot there hot Yeah and they also kind of look weird sometimes some kind of a comment but they look strange. You don't sometimes you see a model and you're like plastic interesting with these kinda hot robots. That's our goal all female brother female and yes they will eventually eventually get much better looking more real. It's part of growing crop of digital instagram models. That are programmed exclusively Rosalita gain followers and make cash and this is really bad news for the future of human instagram. Hot Chicks especially when you think about it from perspective economics like it takes a human instagram hot chick. At least eighteen years to reach maturity at eighteen years of food eighteen years of clothing two semesters at Asu the cost can really add up. Whereas digital a digital hotpot could just be hot on its first and INSTAGRAM's I Dave Awareness? Come on as soon as you imagine. Though when they have like a influence or conventions the the looks the some of these human girls are going to be giving the robots when they have to bring the robots robots. Aren't they would show up like digitally Hologram. Okay that's what I'm trying to find that it's not it's it's not a physical no they're not actual robot when they when they show up when they show up to the influence or booth and the booth next to him is three nerds that then put up a Hologram. Yeah they're gonNA be pissed exactly exactly created this. This is You know some some name Savannah and she's a while. Yeah so this is big business. Guys then People are creating these instagram hotties. These things have fucking millions of followers. They're making cash. According to New York Post last year the creators of Hotbot. Low Michaela It looks like a fourteen year. Old Girl Who is the first and most widely recognized bought influence her with one point eight million followers? They were handed one hundred twenty five million from investors according to tech crunch. It's a lot then in in October. Two thousand eighteen. The virtual girl landed the coveted job at dazed magazine as an arts editor. What the fuck does not even meet so the guys that program our programming ramming the fucking days magazine art section? I Dunno anyway huge cash. We have a a comment from our hotline. That I think is relevant. Okay Little Michaela. This is looks like a child. Exactly and not real that doesn't look real pedophile tonight. into safer pedophile to maybe do then if you follow them people can see who's following these fucking freaks following this robot descending on hold on hold on the robot though that's bullshit that looks like a fucking robot you're looking at just low Michaela looking at all of them okay. There's one girl on there who someone someone common it's like it's like you're not even real. You're so beautiful. Oh really so so. Let's take it to the Internet for an audio comment from from our audio hotline. What's our number me? We'll pull it up. We'll drop our audio hotlines. You can leave voicemails. We'll play your comments on the show but I think I thought this one was was is pretty relevant. Three Siva then will become the largest supply of military computer systems all stealth bombers upgraded with cyber then computers becoming coming forty unmanned after. What's the Florida perfect operational record? The skynet funding bill is passed. The system goes online on August. Fourth Nineteen Ninety seven mm-hmm human decisions are removed from strategic defense. skied begins to learn the geometric rate. It becomes self aware to the AM eastern time. August twenty. The ninth in a panic dried for the plug. Okay thanks for that comment. Pretty pretty good ominous. If you asked me yeah pretty good listener at I'll learn also awesome. Okay guys this one is from at Trevor Underscore Collins five you guys have pets. You've had pets week leading but yeah you know. Oh that feeling when your pets get out the worst especially when it's will's dog and it's their responsibility not a better leader way. Better bring a bite your tongue down the street in the neighborhood. Yeah exactly it's like or at least seen panicked pet owners searching for the pets. It's just like you said it's scary. It's stressful it. Sucks there that yeah nothing worse than calling will heart factor will on fourth of July and tell them that I lost his dog. That was real bad. Yeah Yep Tough Day. We found the dog. Well now imagine being seventy two year old Ohio man. Lowly slowly garber and having your cattle get out at least twenty eight times. It's pretty straight eight at least twenty eight. He cited warned her convicted twenty eight times since since two thousand eleven for having his cows loosed on the road or in the ditch in the area near State. Route One twenty-one us thirty-six Darke County Ohio. So mark let me. I started when you said the name. Willie Garber e Arbor and when you said farmer and you said Twenty eight time figuring twenty eight times. The animals have escaped over the course of forty years. No nine years Chief Deputy Mark Whitaker said deputies have been called to garbage residents six times since August. Twenty nine so so six times in the past like five six months and that they cited him for those times. Apparently he wasn't excited. Every time deputies were called because sometimes garbage been able to wrangle his cows back in before the deputy arrives betsy sue. Get back here. Just where the heck do you think you wouldn't sunshine or you're GonNa get me in trouble. We talked about this. This guy's a shitty armor hands down. Yes it's gotten so bad municipal court judge Julie. MONON found garbage guilty of animals at large public roadway and sentenced him to three to serve three days in jail in recent like this past month. And guess what happened while he was in jail. I don't know what happened house out again. Yeah this guy not believing locks just got defensive. A cow is the easiest thing to to keep inside of something. It's a gate. They have those cattle guard. Work Lakers arm. He doesn't lock the gate. Whitaker the again the chief deputy. I said he's unique. Talking about lowly garber we don't have farmers or animals owners who are as negligent as this. He's just not learning his lesson carbs negligence this is caused quite a few roadway incidents and accidents in two thousand thirteen a truck hit garbage cow in May of two thousand nineteen a motorcycle. Hit loose garber and well. It didn't mention what what happened there. But that doesn't sound good. And in December of two thousand nineteen there were two reports of cars hitting garber scouts. One driver remained at the CNN gave an accident report. Well one driver fled fled the scene but if anyone really wanted to find him he's the guy or Gal at the cow sized Denton his car. Yeah surprise you pay for free ranch meat. You know what I mean. Yeah okay guys before we move on. It's time for the best part. What about the news? And that's being able to gamble on it. You can gamble on the news with us all you need to do is go to. WWW dot predicted dot org slash Promo Slash Heart Factor Twenty Crete and account and Despu spa deposit at least twenty dollars. And you'll get that free twenty no strings attached. The Shit is legal in all fifty states I deposit with my debit card and withdrawal winnings directly to my checking account count and speaking of winnings. I'm sure that all the hard factor boys won a ton of money on the debates last night. And we will tell you. We don't know at the time this recording. But we did we might say just that's like we will Dallas you tigers to the win a willingness to big wins on predicted debate markets. Daddy's GONNA withdrawal four figures couple Alpha cash but the debate is over so let's talk other markets to gamble on the they added like twenty markets in the past. Dan predicted who'll lead the realclearpolitics pulling that the US for the Iowa Democratic Democratic caucuses on January thirty first Biden's and leader forty nine cents. Sanders is at forty three which I like pizza. Pizza fifteen warns at eight. Who are pulling for New Hampshire sure Democratic primary on January thirty? First I don't have those odds. I like Sanders there again. How large the front runners are? CPI lead beyond January thirty first like zero two point. Four percent point five percent onto one percent stuff like that. Let's and the one. I like the most which Democrat candidate will drop out next non glitches around twenty cents. Divall Patrick who who. Oh Duval Patrick has been lighting up. The campaign trail is at twenty four. All of our hearts Michael Balance at twenty four cents John. Delaney's twenty four cents stiers twenty cents. Tulsi Gabbard said eighteen cents and Yang. Who didn't make the last debates at four cents? I feel like half those people are already out there. Just not officially out. Yeah so if you can't do a police sketch of a candidate by Now they're out in my opinion. Yeah can we talk about the dark horse. The thing that really might be light up markets pretty soon was that which is Bloomberg Bloomberg's climbing up the pulse Z's getting some market share and a couple of different places third place tied with Warren now in some pulse British. Pretty interesting because I wanNA keep an eye on Sunday. Keep an eye on if you've seen Blooberg at any of these polls Bloomberg's polling like like a trump two thousand sixteen type shooting up the ranks coming up quick There was like I said there's twenty about twenty nine polls Markets unpredicted go to www predicted dot org slash promo chromosomes heart factor. Twenty and make some money on the news with us. All right. Moving on to some comes from Mr Woody. There's guys. I'M GOING TO ADMIT I. I love vigilante videos on Youtube. When of the person or persons You know take the law into their own hands and and it can. It can make some very entertaining video. Doesn't yeah exactly. For example. When like older brother Dad finds out like a pedophile stocking? Their sister daughter online than they lured that person to the house and gives You know a lesson with fists in Word Talk Radio Those don't exist once yeah. Vigilante pedophile. Beatings yeah really. Yeah you want as you said once evening plan once you see like one vigilante video video you go down a rabbit hole. Yeah speaking of which West what did you think of the Vigilante Video of the best buy lady who would stop to the The robber stealing stuff. and that's by video. Especially because you worked at best buy. I actually saw a security guard at best buy so don someone and it was amazing. I worked at best. Buy Yeah She has the mark she got hired by you. You say she was. She's like offensive linemen like like she. She has taught me she crushed student. But these kind of videos even better because these are people that don't even have any kind of place of authority like a security guard. They bring other people into their homes and beat the shit out of okay. Okay I meant these vehicle wants but yeah exactly So one couple possibly inspired by those videos definitely inspired but as we just decided to create their own vigilante video series to post on Youtube and make some cash yeah but this one was centered around bike thieves so Corey Corn Nut and Savannah Grellet of Vasilyev California. We're tired of their bikes being stolen. Or they just WanNa make some fucking easy money so to teach the local bike thieves lesson they set up a catch and beat operation in which they left an unchained bike in front another house and then watched baseball bats in hand until a thief. Pounds and The couple would then burst from their home in this nice looking neighborhood sometimes in broad daylight chase down the thief and beat them with bats. Wow and apparently they live stream. Have we watch these videos. So what happens is like the videos are poorly made because they it ends up that they go off screen focused on the beatings not the cinematography in grill. It sounds like a law firm. That will certainly lose your case. That's true yeah so Shitty restaurant. Yeah yeah so they were not grill. Well it yeah yeah so that now. They're being They're they're they just four times in the and they're now facing charges of assault with a deadly weapon and conspiracy. I mean. Can you imagine Pete car except beat the shit out of what exactly can you imagine. Just watering your lawn and then seeing chorine savannah whom you probably had like beers with the night before chasing someone down with a bat and it's a nice looking neighborhood. It's hilarious stunt gotten city bikes and then put shit on them. On the handlebars there's another. That's another great vigilance. Videos like when they tied the bikes to a rope. And then they they have someone laying down down a hill and they'd just get propelled by those. Those are awesome. What's your theory on how this escalated to this point where they were? They got some bike store. I think they a needed some. They they just saw it as a way to make some youtube cash. I think really. I think that's the main well we should. We should take Cyclist thing you don't think it was like she. She came home. It's like someone's got my bike again. He's honey it could be. Cyclists are crazy. I got the ultimate story to just. We should do this too so just wanted to make county. Okay okay. I'm in some cash cash cash down a little little You know notoriety so going to Internet. Oh sorry none of the victims sustained life-threatening vendor injuries. They just said you. Bruised Egos and tired legs from having to walk home but let's take the Internet. John McCain says good on them had my giant defy advanced lance pro. So there's a cyclist nerd stolen a couple of months ago and with love ten minutes room on my own with the wanker longtime John. Ten minutes is a long the fights last two minutes tops and then Brian Dan eaves keep nerve the whole time. Yeah he's not GonNa do anything Brian Eve says good on this couple bike. Thieves deserve a good beating. Hospital and feeding tube and wheelchair comes to mind L.. Awhile cry face laughing face. So cyclists are very intense about stolen. Is there's a bummer right. But I wouldn't want I wouldn't want someone of a feeding tube because of no no no not at all okay. So that's that archives. This one's from Ian another early or at on Netflix I'm calling the segment. Terrible investments to avoid corner. Yeah so if the site of your money just makes you so sick that you want to let your money no how little it actually means to you. Then listen up. What if I told you that? A futuristic new. 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This is the fire festival guys. Construction begins began in two thousand nineteen stage to kick it off in two thousand twenty five and Mary con is currently seeking funds. So if you're interested dion. DM AT AAC on. Where's AAC on? Its economy and bill read these messages because this is in a mental institute. Well I don't know how good the services in Africa it's going to take out a little bit to get. There was a common young young. Geez gotTA start a city. Ah Concert all right guys. This one's views pay Bowie. Cool thing theoretically Senegal fucked up. But what a fucking egotistical asshole to call the city a AAC on city. Well okay. I'm sorry all right guys this one's a doozy it's so good that was written in by at this burner Carl espy sanders. Ashby commitment to fifty five and at heart factor will okay so the D. Word is not a good word. It's contentious messy expensive. I'm of course talking about divorce. Guys you get the fucking lawyers involved your life savings and property is up for grabs not to mention if you have kids good Lord and then you assume at some point you're battling the love your life that you at some point of your life you hate each other right at the very least. Obviously you can't live with each other now even if it's amicable divorce whereas like the biggest stupidest fucking bullshit divorce which France. Each other just sat home with a cellphone X. Y. Bullshit chat sometimes a Kansas. She's dead to you. Mary candice this Man Forty Year. Old David Ostrom whose divorce is going through an Iowa. Divorce court hates divorce even more than I just described. He has even asked the court to grant has motion to be able to face his ex wife and or her divorce lawyers on the field of battle in the fight to the death court fight to the death. He filed out comment. He says he goes on to say he will render their souls from their corporal bodies. Respond Guy got knocked over court on. This guy might might lose post. This opposed to Warsaw claims. He claims court documents that his ex wife Brigitte Ostrom mm-hmm Harlan said. She destroyed him legally through the divorce proceedings and he wants twelve weeks of lead time so he can find or forge a Catanha or I can't even pronounce the name of the sword for the fight to the death. And he said a walkies ashish. Yeah sure sure. To this day he said trial by combat has never been explicitly supposedly banned by any court of law in the United States and that they used to do it up until eighteen eighteen in the British court. So he's in. He's he wants his bat. He seems to be especially upset with his ex exciting legal precedent. That's everybody wants so there's a long guest. Yeah he said especially added as experts. Attorney Matthew Hudson. WHO said was so absurd during the divorce proceedings that all he's doing this by challenging them to fight to? The death is matching Hudson's absurdity. He wants it to be a fair fight. One on one as will represent his side and his ex wife can either step up and represent her side or sent Hudson in her champion. So this guy has got to be pretty pissed about the last season. Game of thrones sentiments. Yeah I see a restraining order in the skies future. I see dateline in in this. Guy's not only a restraining line producers. Listen Up Matthew. Hudson responded with surely Oh strongman corporal. He he spelled it correctly. Bodies which Robert Webster defines US having consisting of relating to a physical material body and then he also asked the course to suspend ostrom child visitation rights Oh yeah so he punked and how many said you're not going to be able to see the kids anymore you cycle. Listen that will make a man insane it will like if it will make you crazy. oestrus saint when when questioned. He requested that that that the courts spent his wife's visitation rights or vice versa. That's what motivated. They're not following. Yeah he lost the divorce right. He has some visitation tation rights. Post divorce he wants to challenge his ex wife for her death. And the and the lawyer respond with. You'RE GONNA now we're going to take away your visitation rights because you're still when questioned on if a fight to the death was a little extreme ostrom said that traditionally trials by combat either ended in death. Or we're one one one of the parties Chris Craven so sounds like he would accept craven being screamed and would hold back the death blow if if there was scream. So that's good news. Oh this guy just lost every cries craven. Jesus Christ is lost it for the show. I want to see a picture of him. Yeah Poor Baby Uh we please get this guy on the show. I don't want them to know where we live now. No not at all. I WanNA follow on Youtube. Those training videos going to great all right guys got a great one from Larry. The Great Nice We have all heard of drinking tiger blood. You know to energize and ready for some hot action problem is it's hard to get Charlie. It's hard to get your hands on actual tiger's his blood highly illegal unless you got a guy I mean Chinese guy so you have on the field of the superdome the other. Even you know what I'm saying Tiger Rama. Yeah turn to other alternatives like Viagra or Rhino twenty-five thousand or swag whose tagline is sex with a grudge the attorney those alternatives to get the juices flowing post going for that swag have an alibi So you have turned other other alternatives trying to get the juices flowing and Dick rock-hard but one man in Veracruz Mexico decided he was going to take it to the next level when it was time for some sex with hot thirty year. Old Woman on a trip to Mexico. Oh by taking a stimulant that is essentially Viagra but for bulls young. That's right he's going to get your heart. He took a bull breeding stimulant and and I'm not sure what he planned on doing to that. Poor woman But he certainly wasn't taking chances of not following through on his promise he made fucker like bull. Oh my Mike. Oh Yeah so Dr. His Penis felt like the aliens. Mouth and alienated sprouting penises raking picking through another Penis Gordon. So doctors moulting it skin. Yeah totally totally normal. Yeah tough one. Bad game captain. America was the red skull. Yeah doctors quote said he had taken a sexual stimulant went which he had bought in Veracruz used by farmers in that region to invigorate bulls for insemination. The problem is the man is not a two thousand pound bull but an average size man so he unfortunately was left left with an erection that lasted for three days. No ours is the Max. Consult a doctor after four hours. According to worship waited waited three days he waited three days hours. Seventy two hours So he lasted for three days and it was so bad that he had to have emergency surgery at a border town around called Rinos cutting off almost made it home but he was like. I can't do it so it must be pretty bad. How much you WANNA bet? That wasn't the first time they'd have to do that. Surgery probably yeah. Oh is guys hugging bullfighter into the story was. It's not the first time they've had to do emergency snow. No yeah there was. There was a couple of this guy. You're not going. You're not soliciting bull Agra someone someone's coming to you and be like. Hey Man I got a pretty lady there. I'm pretty sure the the you gotta you gotTa have some sort of some momentum. Amputation yeah I I mean you're you're you're of the pianist. I guess the blood vessels can explode. I don't know how it works to save your life. Sometimes you lose a penis and think about that sex they gotta like scalpels. 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Broken Arrows Mayor Craig Thurmond On the Importance of Limited Government

Thrivetime Show | Business School without the BS

29:25 min | 2 months ago

Broken Arrows Mayor Craig Thurmond On the Importance of Limited Government

"Andrew do you believe that government should be involved in every area of your life? Absolutely, not do you like it. When government slows you down, it gets in your way I do not like that when there's so many rules created by government that you can't possibly followed them. All kind of hate it Andrew do you like gladiators? Yes. Okay Well. That's weird. Anyway I think today's guests disagrees with you on that point, but he agrees with all the other points. Well, today's guest mayor Craig Thurman Broken Arrow Mayor Craig Furman believes like you he believes that government should serve the people and then get out of your way. Some shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce this show. This show. Too May. Eight kids co created by two different women. Thirteen multi, million dollar, businesses ladies, and gentlemen. Welcome to the time Shaw. Do. Donna. Yes. Yes. Yes and yes drug nation on today's show. It's very special occasion because it has always profound when we are above the ground mayor. Craig. Welcome onto the thrive time show. How are you? Sir Welcome Clegg it'd be here. Hey, you are you. Are you still the mayor of broken Arrow I still am. Now. I think what broken Arrow needs to hear what we want to hear I. I lived in broken what I wanna hear I wanna hear some positive stuff I want to hear some positive. So you turn on CNN you on. Fox It's just it's a lot of negativeness. Divisiveness. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA today show is going to be positive not detached from reality but positive and I think there are great things going on in broken Arrow right now I I went out to Angelini easier tonight for dinner it was packed I went to the ice cream place where they make that homemade gelato stuff across. Was Great. It was packed. I took my kids out for breakfast a couple. Packed. The hub gym is open packed I went to. What is it? The. The the the bass pro shop, the best pro shop packed right great things are going on and. I WANNA. Ask You you as a mayor are in my opinion doing a good job and I'm just an entrepreneur. I'M A business guy. But. I know people all around the country that can't even be open right now. So let's talk about this. What authority do you have or not have to make it hard or easy for business owners to operate in broken it? I mean how how is the mayor make it really difficult to do business and how could you make it easy to do business but I think the big thing is being not being business. Friendly and that's one thing that we're doing in broken arrows were very business. Friendly knows importance of businesses we want to be their partner. No, we're not you versus them a lot of cities you go to it's you versus them, and that's That's something that we don't do here is we want to team up with businesses and try to get them to grow. I am not going to mention other mayors by name. However, I'm going to throw out some ideas. Some big ideas I'm thinking about I was talking to an individual today who works in city government about organizing a maybe a block party on the fourth of July. And it was the craziest thing ever he was nice to me. He called me back. And he seemed like he was in favour of shooting off some fireworks for the fourth of July wanted to do it safely, etc.. I have called other cities though for their very difficult to work with. Do you think it's normal for cities to treat their citizens? Well, when it comes to customer service or is this something you've had to work hard to create in Broken Hill I don't think it's normal because the business I work in full, it's volunteer job. So fulltime business I work in communities around here and there they're not exactly the same I mean it's we. Really have stepped up where we want people to be very helpful and they've been told many times at their job is to get to yes not just tell people know and some communities that we know of around here. The first thing you get from Emma's no and that's not what we want to be. We WanNa work with communities and work with citizens in our community to be able to do things that they want to do. So we have on the show today a guy who's kind of he's kind of mythological in my mind we have. A very successful entrepreneur with all sorts of Tulsa connections. I've seen old school footage of this man with Oral Roberts himself I affectionately call him the chuck wagon because his first name's chuck and I WanNa get I, WanNa hitch myself to the wagon. This guy's always doing something Great Energy Chuck Ramsey welcome onto the thrive time show. Here, now hate here you spell your name the right way with A. Lot of people don't a lot of people Ramsey's out there still in their name, they use an e. Y. Y. So how long have you known mayor Craig I mean, when did you make that poor life decision to meet Mayor Greg you know I've lost track but over twelve years yeah. Only over twelve years. And Longtime, you're an investor owner in shaw homes. You're an investor owner and meadow broken other things and. I. Don't know what your take on this but you have businesses that are things you're are involved in there in Tulsa some things that are in broken arrow. Some things that are in different cities how would you explain how easy it is to do business and broken? Arrow. Or how difficult it is as it relates to other cities I mean is it easier to do business and be as it tougher? Oh, much easier the red tape as far as the city you know what I admire about Mayor Craig is the he loves the city I mean he's been working his tail off for a number of years to make it a better city. And when I first met him I started talk with him. He got me connected with the right people I'll tell you when he hired this city manager. For Broken, Arrow? He's your guy. He was the guy that put it together to get him here. Really now, who is city manager educate our listeners out there virgin is a city manager. He was We got him from St Charles. Missouri we flew up there and talk to him whenever it was whenever he was looking we're looking at new city manager and he's really he's been here about five years really go getter does very much supports the citizens in the community and he really is a good guy. Why do you like broken air like why? Because this is my understanding and again if if if I'm lying if I'm making it up, if it's hyperbole I, mean you know I mean you're my accountability partner here. You don't get paid I think correct to know when we get paid. So I mean I mean just it's just us about a half million listeners. So I mean just you know just just kind of. Spill the beans. What? Why do you actually do this? What's real motive for what? What's? What's what's in it for you steaks and you people what's the real reason you wanna be. What's it? GonNa kickbacks to get. You know what's in it for you? Well, the the fact that you can make a difference in community and that's there's not many people to get that opportunity and ever since I've been on the city council I've had to make a difference and we make a difference in people's lives every day. So it's there say those that are closest to the people or Those governor closest closest to the people and we are, and so we're able to actually make life a difference in everyone's life from from whether it's public safety or whether it's just getting water told it'll flush every day. You know the things that we do every day that make a difference in people's lives and I have that opportunity and not there was only a few people get that chance and since I've had. That chance it's We've been able to really change how bruckner does business and the things that we do and created a safe community. We've done a lot of good things. Now I have told you and I I'm not This is not passive aggressive I've told you. We're we're not going to be talking about covert. We're not talking about the CNN box stuff tonight we're doing we're going to be key positive. However I WANNA talk about risk for a second if chuck decides to build a neighborhood in broken arrow. And it's the most ridiculous houses ever say it's up to code the houses are up to code, but the houses are dumb. He could in theory at home and you know Mr Shaw Glenn could sit down and designed some really stupid houses and if as long as it's up to code, you could give them permission to do. So the city let you build these houses and you might not sell them but are you in agreement that he can have the right to build these houses even if even if they're. God awful. They're nasty demand upstairs as booing how bad they are. But I mean shouldn't your mind? Should he have the ability to have a stupid business plan or a stupid series of homes if he wanted to? Have the right to be able to do that. They have the right to to try something fell if if they want to if that's what they think you're pro freedom guy yes I think it's really important that you're able to do things that that you wanNA. Do whether whether there wiser not That's one thing that we really want. We do want quality housing and we weren't quality things in our community but you have the right we can't tell business what to do. If you, WANNA make a bad investment that's up to you. You just said something that I don't think a Lotta mayors agree with. So back to you chuck, you've seen mayors all across the country that are saying, you can't do this. You can't do that. They can make it difficult to do business I. Mean Chuck I mean have you ever dealt with city that way too difficult to do business? Yes and and take a long time to so much red tape how long? Months up here year you know what's the longest you've ever had to wait to get approval to build a neighborhood in a city what's the longest ever took? Well, fortunately, we do a lot of our building in broken arrow. Point right there. there. Are some other cities around here. That I'm sure you've tried to. Permit. What's the longest you've seen for somebody to give you approval in other cities let me on this. I'm not asking for a specific city I'm just saying with people listening to know let me just say I wished brick could been in broken arrow. We'd been playing golf for a long metal roofs in Tulsa and you. You bought that how many years ago two and a half years you bought. Bought Middleburg Country Club two, and a half years ago, and you wanted to turn it into a neighborhood. Is this correct eventually, we're trying to make Meta Brooke avaiable golf course. Now, what was the initial vision when you decided to buy middlebrook? What was the initial vision? Well, the show vision was it was in the city. Hundred and sixty acres. Nice place to create a nice living area for a number of people did you want would was your vision to turn it into like an al Qaeda training facility where they have the monkey bars all the tires Slum Lord kind of situation I talked to Craig, and he advised me not to do that I. Mean What? What do you picture? Many houses there one house is at your. Just your home it would be a number of homes number of homes four, hundred over four, and right now we're trying to. Retain as golf course but has it taken two and a half years for the city of Tulsa to tell you yes or no? No No. Now it is. Okay. So Is. It would you say that broken here is one of the easiest cities that you've ever Bilton to work with yeah. That's the reason we. We go to broken Arrow and talk to let's talk about the dirt on their Craig dirt for a second. This is what I know. I, know that. He's kind. But maybe to kind of you know you worry about the people that are to kind you know maybe I, mean do you do you know people that know the people that know this guy? He's a nice guy. Honest. He loves the city. He's easy to work with what's an example. Of Mayor Craig his interaction with either you someone in the city a project, maybe he's brought to broken. Arrow what's an example of mayor Craig's leadership that you could share on the show? Well, first of all, he's always available. He answers his phone get out of here at dry. Don't you mayor Craig don't you realize that you are in fact a mayor. I do I do supposed to answer your phone I mean that's that's that's a sign of. Compassion. Well. If someone has a question or has some some reason we'll talk to you got to be there talk to him. Okay and a of times that communication is the difference between solve someone's problem not solving it I'm GonNa, get you a book I'm working on called the keys to destroy a city by Mayor Lightfoot Chicago Edition it's Beautiful Book and I'm going to give that to you because rule number one to destroy cities do not be responsive people. That's if you want to take down to the bottom just printed. So chuck the what else's why do like this guy? What's what's the deal with Mayor Creek? He's he's a good guy. Well, he's a good guy. He has a lot of experience you grew up there in California did land developing there and moved to Tulsa here. I, like his experience and how he bounces ideas over. With other people he's in contact with mayors all over the country goes to Washington DC. Vote for him. Should I vote for this kid I should yeah. But I've got a lot of wins the election there mayor Craig April six. Next year I've got a lot of things on my calendar for able six I mean I might be going into leaney's. I might be going to Might be a regrettable TV show to watch. There's so many things I could be doing. Let's talk about apathy apathy. What happens if the wrong guy gets in charge of of broken Arrow there, chuck the wrong the wrong woman wrong man what what would happen to no movement. No creativity you know look at downtown broken. Arrow. Now, what they've done the last ten years, it's it's unbelievable. You drive down the street, this Christmas I was there and you can hear the Christmas music. Playing as you walk down. To The folks out there that don't know the area you've got in the raw the restaurant there you got the rooftop got Angelina easy at the tavern breakfast place you got the was it Mambo. Zas Vista Mambo Siesta Mambas. There's so many great things to see. Chop House getting ready to open up their called Chop House what is it? Chop. House. That steakhouse. Oh Yes Are you did you know the owners of this have you spent time with I have not spent time with my nose they found empty space there and they're going to open up work Hatfield used to be when are you going to get? It's all your fault or all your credit you know it is if something doesn't happen, it's it's it's got to be the mayor's Fault Mayor Craig, when are you going to get the warranty and are open when you do that for me? I heard they're gonNA open. July and July that's what I heard was planning on opening in July. What is something that you brought to broken Arrow that you actually were involved in bringing the broken air that you could in fact, take credit for it I know you're humble guy I'm just asking what's one thing if I'm listening right now I could say what? It's one thing this guy's actually done. What's one thing I think the first thing that I was involved in was bass pro you helped bring the brand pro to broker active in bass pro and they they really didn't want to be here at originally they were looking in Tulsa and they. kind of convince them to be here, and so it's really good and even to last minute there the loan wasn't GonNa work out and so we had people to city saying there's no way we can afford to do this and my my statement was there was no way we could afford not to do this. So in two thousand five, we bought bass pro here, and then also the Warren Theater was active with Bill Warren trying to get the warrant theater here. So it's been a couple of big. Those are big things. Do, what is your role on limited government? What's your view on limited government? I mean do you see yourself as sort of a dictator crank runs around and makes rules about everything? Do you believe that you should be running around telling us what kind of tennis balls we can use where we can do this where we can do that where we can deep do you believe in that or not? What is your? Limited government people have freedom to do what they wanna do I mean that's one thing that that we need allows we need allow people to do what they want to do, and so the concept of limited government I mean I think that that's an freedom I mean a lot of people fought and died for freedom. When we we have that freedom to be able to have that freedom of choice and we should be able to do that. Did you serve in the military in any way I served in the Marine Corps. Yes. You're in the Marine Corps. Yes. Was the training easy. Was it was? It was I I heard there was one year there where they made it easy. was that you're you're no, I wasn't in that year. No. Walk us through that that training that that to be a to be a marine, I mean what kind of training do you have to go through it was it was pretty tough at the time we were in a war in Vietnam and and a lot of people All of our drill instructors were Vietnam veterans and they had a lot to lot to save it. They were it was pretty intense went to Paris island and spent sixteen weeks there and It was that was pretty intense training. Do. You look back fondly on your time serving our country. I do I don't look finally on boot camp that was really hard but I do look fondly on the the opportunity server country my father was in the navy and was a d day Was it normally on d day and my son was served in Afghanistan as a medic I. Think it's important that we serve that we. Give back to the country's given us so much. Do you have any fond memories of boot camps are one I mean I've never been to boot camp? I've gone to a show homes meeting with chuck here and it's kind of like a boot camp I mean he he'll cracked the whip chuck that motivational phrases has where there's a whip there's a way. And I'm like check. Why are you showing me the sign? I'm just can't checks not like that. But what's it like going to boot camp? It's It's just intense I mean you learn a lot of discipline learned respect you learn for our country and respect for the people that are teaching you and I you know it's just there's a a lot of pain physical pain I think when you're there but It's really It does teach a lot and I think I learned a lot being there and learn discipline respect was your drill sergeant and he d sound a lot like Joel osteen say, Hey, guys you wanna just come on out here and we're GONNA. Go out there and try to conquer this hill and run on this beach until work at a moderate pace right here. But he was like, no I don't He wasn't like that at all. What was he? Like I just described we take us to boot camp Well, we had we had four drill instructors and they were all pretty intense and. I when I got our boot Camp I kinda thought I'd never do anything fast again because all you hear is faster faster faster go faster, the wake up but four thirty in the morning and and you start your day and. and. You know it's there's a lot of different activities that you have to do but it's they keep going is pretty intense. Now we have time for two more questions here Chuck's going to ask you a a real tough question. You Know Chuck, you've known chuck now for a while what Chuck Chuck does is he likes to get mayors particularly on the show and he likes to paint them into a corner. So that way you're it's a Gotcha question. It's basically like we're watching a CNN debate or a Fox debate it's like where there's just nothing but zingers so get ready and Charles here. Charles you moved here from five hours away. What was the name of the town Atchison Kansas? ATCHISON. Kansas. You Mike I you can ask any question you want. Okay at all but I wanted just t it up by saying this prefaces. Where you're from did were you familiar with your mayor? Did you interact with your mayor? Did you not at all? Not at all? Not at all? Okay. Okay. So. This is a cool opportunity for you to ask the mayor of this city and he question you want there and you have the floor. My questions would you have for for the Good Mayor Craig Mr Mayor Craig my question would be what should each and every what qualities should each and every mayor has before trying to run for office or trying to lead a town or city what. What quality should they have I think the very first quality you have to have an any any position should be honesty that should be the most thing that you should have honesty integrity and you should you should do what you say you're going to do So I think that's the very first quant quality and. Mayor lightfoot handbook. No. I've actually met. I don't think that's Inter- handbook. Yes. Cubs game. I was in DC, at the conference of mayors and she was a speaker there. Really. Yes. Okay. I didn't mean that. Off the Rabbit Trust One, ask you because I'm a huge supporter of quarantining in Chicago this time of year it's just a great. Staying in your house. Okay. So back to use your qualities stay house in in scar, you probably won't get shots. That's good. I think that another thing is leadership is very important. You've gotTa to you've got gotTa have some experience and you've got to be a leader. You've got to be able to take charge and and be able to To tell people what to do I think you also have to have some business experience I think that that's really important to be able to understand how business works and it's it's that's very important also. Ok Charles. You have earned the opportunity to go to the to the to the mega around. The lightning around the thunder round the round where you get to ask another question, but this one could be. earth-shattering. mind-blowing. You can do it everyone ask okay I'm going to go to chuck don't come back to you and typically this is the part of the show where I. Feel like view. There's this argument that people were yelling at each other people cutting each other off the. Okay. So we're going back to you there and do we lose your headphones or you headphone freeze Free going to, we're going to do Charles, share your headphones with. Your back. Yes. Okay. That was a passive aggressive thing. It's it's. Really. Tough questions when you can't hear them this. Okay. That's what they do on the view. They make it occurred that tension chuck a what question would you have for for Mayor Craig you know maybe you want to know the answer to or you think the listeners might want to know the answer to. So I I just wanted to tell mayor Craig how much I appreciate him and respect him his openness to new ideas. He's a creative guy and he loves the city. I've I've dealt with him a lot. I'm when I asked him kind of a tough question. What's the toughest thing about your job? That's I mean. You have a lot of tough things. Tough. Oh Very, tough Well, I, think it's really hard to say I. Mean It depends on the day you know what's tough this the having to do an order close the city was very tough which we did for about a month we close our city down for about a month and that was very tough to have to do order to say people need to shelter in place was that one of the toughest things you had to do I think that that was very tough along with. I mean anytime you have to tell someone no and that's always very tough and there's times that we have to do that as a council or as Mary tell people know getting and and trying to lead the community even though we got a lot of criticism over everything, we do get a lot of criticism and you still have to stand up and and do the right thing and I always felt that if you do the right thing and if you don't get reelected, why do you want to be elected often? Do you get people citizens that reach out to you? That are impossibly wrong. And they want you to take action as an example let's just say that chuck in our neighbors. Okay. We're checking our neighbors and I call the hotline Boo Boo Boo. Boo they say they ever GonNa Broken Arrow, and how can I help you city broker and I said Yeah my neighbor Chuck Chuck Wagon this guy's always making cheese burgers and therefore my house always smells like cheese and I suspect he's not acknowledging are Hoa loss because I've seen him bebopping around town. And I believe he's driving too fast. Now I don't know he's driving me I'd never caught him but I have a feeling and I'm telling you my backyard smells like cheese and I wanted my backyard smelly cheese. I would be making cheeseburgers but I'm not I made burgers without cheese and he is up bebopping around ten. zipping around being crazy and don't have proof yet, but I need to stop them. If do you ever get those kind of things that people want to use the mayor to regulate every aspect of everyone's lives does that happen we? We've gotten a lot of phone calls a lot of emails and phone calls especially if this past few months more so than than normal I think but I get maintenance emails that I get emails the full pages get full-page emails. From a lot of different things from defunding police department which I don't agree with. The police and I I've written him back almost full page but There's a lot of different things you do get a lot of people that are that you you get emails and you try to respond respond to everybody but sometimes, you just think you just shake your head and say. You know there's there's nothing you're gonNA tell them. It's going to help them understand really what what's going on time though isn't it that they don't understand all the details of the situation to well sometimes that's it, and sometimes you know people just don't want to be confused by the facts and so a lot of times they don't understand and so. That that creates a lot of Problem Flynn story for the listeners out there a little encouraging story. This is so good. I'm glad you're not defunding the police, but I want to tell you a story about a not. So Great Leader who did defend his police in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, three, eight off Adolf Hitler The guy who made that mustache forever bad. Adolf Hitler in around with that Mustache today people don't like Adolf Hitler appointed Hermann Goering to become the minister of the interior in his first order was to define the police. Any replaced them with this brown-shirt world police that happened in thousand thirty three that is a move. It is a move that bad people use when you don't have any protection and he safety. I mean broken her thank you so much for keeping us. Safe. Just thank you for doing that Sir I mean Tony. I. Know People live in cities where they're not safe and I couldn't imagine living there. So thank you so much five kids. Thank you for not defunding our police. I can't believe people would ask you to do that. I've always thought that's the number. One charges a government whether it's federal or state or local level is public safety. That's your number one charge. That's the first thing you have to do and the concept of not We have a great police force. They do a great job. Yeah. we do a lot of community policing and be very proactive and you know the fact that we've never had one substantiated DOJ complaint. Over the whole history of the police it's awesome. Says that they're doing things right and we got a president trump's coming here for a big rally. This week is going to be already over eight hundred, thousand people enroute. orbs we're talking about a million people being here I. Love that we can do that and do it in a safe and responsible way I. Love that Charles You have the Mike Final the opportunity, ask the final question but just just. Go easy on them. You know what? I mean he's got. Guys. Pays very low as mayor broken. Best. Okay. My best. On a personal, what do you think makes you qualify to be the mayor of an entire city? Like no, you explain the qualities as to be leadership, but you on a personal level and makes you qualify a mayor of entire questions that that is tough question I think for one experience and you have to really educate yourself. I've spent the last nineteen years learning all about government and and going to DC, go into different things and learn everything I can learn. So that's one thing that qualifies. ME, probably more than a lot of people because I've had the experience and I understand how government works and it cannot. You know when I got on the council I thought well, we can do this just like a business, but unfortunately, the government is not a business, but it can be more professional more business. Friendly. So that's that's one thing that we have done. Yeah I think also the as we talk about the honesty and integrity is is very important and you know you have to You know being truthful as so important in today's world, and we don't have that enough and but I've learned it definitely is a lot easier to to remember what you said when you tell the truth all the time. So I think it's It's very important that the honesty and integrity but I think experience and leadership I have let us through a lot of things that we have done and been involved in A. Lot of different things so I think leadership but the big thing is experienced and really understanding how government works and having a mindset that I mean, the businesses are really what keep our city going and it's important that we really look at at business and let business do what they need to do to keep our city going mayor Craig you're a great American Charles tough questions. Yeah. Not sure we'll have you on again of. Marry mayor you've got my vote absolutely we we are in support of you. We appreciate taking your time out to join us and we hope that we're providing you the listener with. The question the answers to the questions that you'd want to ask if there's any questions you'd like for us to ask the mayor please feel free to email us at Info at thrive time show dot com info at drive time show dot com, and don't further ado we're going end this show with with the boom and again a safe and open free boom I appreciate you for for leading the way there Sir and we'll do it on three. Here we go three to what balloon.

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TCF Ep. 451 - Jens Krauer

The Candid Frame

54:07 min | 1 year ago

TCF Ep. 451 - Jens Krauer

"This is about ex. And this is the candid frame, I've been thinking a lot about why make photographs it's it's a question I posed to myself, especially during those periods when I'm feeling stuck or stagnant. It's not about my not making pictures or even about not making enough photographs. But instead why it's so important for me to do what I do. Because when I'm out there, and this -ly, repeating myself and feeling frustrated as a result the answer to the question of why is an important one for me to answer. And sometimes the answer to that question arrives, not when I making graphs, but when I had the chance to sit down with another creative Petach refer a writer or painter, and we have the opportunity to not only discuss what we do. But why we do it? Such conversations have been incredibly enlightening for me and had a big impact on my photography, especially in this year of two thousand nineteen and today's conversation with ends brower is just one such conversation, though, some of you may know Jens from his street photography work, or as host of the Fuji love podcast what I enjoy. Most about him is thoughtful approach. To being creative. He is a photographer who sees photography not merely as a way to feed one's ego with likes and thumbs up. But as the means to express something about himself and the people he comes into contact with because of his camera. I like the fact that this has to do with interesting able and interest in life, and the interesting thing is you can do it anywhere. You are like really requires little kind of a material or little financial efforts as long as you have the time, and you have interest. You can you can do it. I mean, and I'm fascinated in people no matter if I go to a book caressed, or if I go to Amsterdam or to eastern bowl, you'll figure that people are all very similar, no matter where you go. And then it's just very fascinating to go debreis specially enjoys staying in a place for a week or two to get to know it even. Like a mall was all almost trying to become kind of a a local and together knowledge by walking around with my camera. So for me, it was very acceptable. I love the streets a love being out, and I have a natural interest very curious attend to go to places where you should be. Maybe a bit careful or sometimes not go. So this kind of drives me I wanna go deeper and deeper into different cultures and on the Stanton. It is really easy today to become competent photographer, you can get to the point with today's cameras and software so that you can produce work that will gain you the approval of others on Instagram Facebook or five hundred PX, but that's also a trap because that pursuit of instant gratification can stifle your willingness to embrace discomfort and a challenge of change today. I believe also in the most respectful way possible people. Often replicate themselves, especially if we like kind of look over to social media Instagram, these kind of things there's a method to getting lights just at the method to getting liked is there's no no, no friction. There's nothing new you just basically repeat to get love. And I think that when you like trying to create something new you cannot avoid going into the unknown and called the dark, and this is where all those douse. The reflections insecure the happens, and that's where most of for me, personally, the good things come from almost became a costume to this kind of roller coaster. So I'm I I know it's going down, you know, maybe having photographers block or just a bad month for something like this. But I've learned that like going down a half take that momentum to swing up the other way and the more embrace it. The it's going to swing me up all the way. We'll talk to him about why became photographer and how he nurtures his continuing Evelyn behind the camera. Welcome to the candidate for him. Hoyas welcome to the candidate frame. It's a real pleasure to have you. So glad to be here. Thank you very much for having volume by what's that conversation that you have a loft STA. Earlier this year was it late last year. I think it was April this year are okay. Yeah. And it was conversation. I was I enjoyed and my only lament was the fact that I couldn't sit down there and join you guys. So what have you around next time? We knew that. But as much as I wanna talk to you about the philosophy of what you do what we do in common. I'm really kind of interested in a story whose whose idea I've ever really touched on with a lot of Tigers over the many years. But I think especially the case this year is the idea of people who are already in sort of a career path. Discover that they were very frustrated with the life that was that they were in experiencing at that point. And looking for something. Else finding it and then making the transition so I'd like to start their wanted you tell us about where where were you at professionally in your life in about the frustration? And that you were experiencing at that at that job. And and how you change things. Well, what's a bit of a long story? I'm trying to make it short is there's to pause between twenty and thirty our had no corporation at all and from thirty to forty I actually went to work with a tie. I had a really good income made a little bit of a career in a you just ords foundation taking care of soccer in Europe. And at some point I figured that. This is not going to satisfy me for the rest of my life quit my job a lot of people told me borderline crazy to do that. Because how can you like let this kind of salary go. But I've always been like this. I do things because they're challenging because the creative because they. Make me happy. And they're came out came appoint we're not know that this was not going to happen from me for the rest of my life. So I built my photography passion in parallel with my existing job. And then at some point there were few things happening within the company wherever you lies that morally, I wasn't happy and just very spontaneously walked up to my former boss and told him, I wasn't happy. I would like to leave and and gratefully photography came into my life in parallel. So I kind of fell back to that. Because always fall back to create things when I when I changed my life, and I didn't do that for the first time. So it wasn't cetera blind leap because some people in the get fired and all and they had to sort of seventy redefined their lives, you were sort of slowly creating the path by which you could take advantage of later. How long was that time period about remember two thousand twelve one of the reason I did that draw was because they sent me to Ukraine. Rain for European football championship. And that was one of those jobs where fault the this is going to be an adventure. I mean, like, you know, save me there for a year and thought to taking casually pictures came back shoulder to people, and I got great feet bags or start investigating. What works and what doesn't work in my photography. And then there were not a two or three years where in parallel to my job. I started taking talk a few more and more serious and took the time for it. The advantage was we were travelling out, of course, paid by the company and usually at six seven o'clock in the evening. My colleagues used to go to the bars and have a blast. And I usually just took my camera and wherever we were as autodrome into streets until one or two AM and came back and did the day after day for about three years while I was still working. So that's how this built overtime so easy to immediately took to the streets. That was an initial attraction in terms of subject matter. Yeah. That's my my Nigel traction when I was younger, I used to be a lot in urban and in a pub culture, myself putting caller into urban environments. Okay. Little bit in in the conflict with the law at some point. So I mean, the philosophy's the same you have a backpack full of Arezzo cans or you have a bag with a camera. And then you start walking the streets. You roam you look for opportunities. So the mindset was kind of immediately. They're just the tool was different and in here, less prone to get the attention law. Sometimes it depends. I mean, I'm sure you have story or two to get into the conflict with the law while you were out on streets. It happens as well. But it sure less less dangerous than than the other activity. So what was the attraction T you of graphing on the streets. Yes, there's a great interest in free photography is over the last ten years or so. But personally, what do you to that subject matter as opposed to something? I like the fact that this has to do with interesting people and interest in life. And the interesting thing is you can do it anywhere. You are like really requires little kind of a material or little financial efforts as long as you have the time, and you have the interest. You can you can do it. I mean, I'm fascinated in people no matter if I go to Bucharest or if I go to Amsterdam or to eastern bowl, you'll figure that people are all very similar, no matter where you go. And then it's just very fascinating to go deeper. I specially enjoys staying in a place for a week or two to get to know it even better like a mall was all almost trying to become kind of a a local together knowledge by walking around with my camera. So for me, it was very acceptable. I love the streets aloft being out, and I have a natural interest very curious attend to go to places where you. Should be may be a bit careful or sometimes not go. So this kind of drives me I wanna go deeper and deeper into different cultures and understand your travels Tikki to places that are not commonly thought of when it comes to St. with people think three photography, and they think on New York or Paris or London, but you were exploring areas that I see less commonly referred to when it comes to this zone photography. And I'm wondering how that experience has been or was different to what you know, you may sort of experienced now when you travel in in in the US or cities like London Paris. Well, the first thing you always the when you talked down kind of your test boundaries like you figure out how far can I go? When when the people can give you push pushback to you. When you ran with your camera, and I figured that you know, these cities are not necessarily so much different than we are or Paris. It's more about on the sanding like little local tricks, or if you smile, and how you're pro choice people and that kind of stuff, but for example, if you go to Bucharest, it's just a whole nother setting. It's a whole different world kind of teamed up with with the ball collective while. I spend a lot of time in the east. They have a strong mission of documenting those urban areas. And what's interesting in the east is a lotta times, you feel the leftovers of this kind of post communism, not only visual, but also in the attitude, so it's it's a whole nother field. But then in the in the execution of street photography. Not so much is different. The people you meet from the stories of different. And the added your is is a little bit different general the I play, and maybe you can clarify this for me. But in the cities that I frequently photograph find myself in there is a little hyper awareness of the presence of the camera. And even though there's abundance of people out there with cameras not just camera. But with cameras the people see you say or do anything, but there's an awareness of the presence of photographer. And I sometimes think that when you go to the city or town where that's less prevalent that your ability to be quote, unquote, invisible is a decreased because seeing some fellow out there with a camera, even if it's a relatively small one is sort of a rare thing which makes it a little more difficult to be invisible or almost transparent as you try to make your photographs. Is your compared? My personal experiences. This for me is actually everywhere to same. Normally as before no matter if I go to the east, or if I go to the New York did the technical approach of Teigen image or like your personal strategy on how to get to the image. Usually remains the same. What is different is the reactions, and what happens out of it, for example in New York. I mean, the culture is just so like straight out and direct people tell you right away that they're not happy with what you're doing. And you kind of take that risk because you know, it's only gonna be like verbal exchange. So you might even go a step further. And then when you go to all the places, you might just be a bit more careful until you figured out if you can do that. But for me in the action itself of the execution of taking the picture. It's usually the same. What my various the way you find the picture or how you kind of integrate yourself in those different environments this varies you. Have to get to know the local culture, but they're taking the belt is is is no different. No matter where you go from. I noticed in a lot of the pictures that you tend to use a wonder focusing then it gets fit because you use the Fujii's using the fifty six correctly. She's the inclusion of a telephoto focal Mike more commonly used for portraiture and less over street photography, but you nevertheless, are always considering their environment. And I really curious to understand your you're thinking in using that focal length, and how you consider the space around what your subject is in in making your photographs. It's a good point something that really especially with the work of till now as is really kind of the core feeling the fifty six focal ings equivalent of about eighty millimeters on a full frame the logic behind it is if if I'm trying to make a personal portrait. View on the streets. My I worry always it has to stay candidate at no point dwell won't my subject to react to in any way, before I take the shot, and I find that if you wanna get close, especially with shoulder lenses, you kind of get noticed faster, and you also kind of get into the personal space of somebody so fast that they have to notice you now with the eighty millimeter focal ING, if I take full on portrait of you and probably like one and a half meters away from you. So I'm I'm ready to close to you. But I don't wanna go so closed at I influence you with my presence. And the other point you mention that is one of my biggest challenges when I shoot is the integration of the background the delight and everything around as I come from like, the drawing the graffiti side, it really matters to me that something in the background in terms of lines or where somebody stands kind of. Frames the subject itself. So one thing is I don't want to influence you. And the other thing is I'm just gonna also able to position myself in a way that I can I have enough time to consider the background. But I take the shot. So when you discover a subject that you have in have an interest in what is the workflow is it are you immediately trying to figure out where do I position myself? So that I can create a background element even the foreground element to play off of the subject. He said that the very next thing you do. Yes. So what I'll do is get ahead. And the moment is e somebody I usually already have kind of an awareness of what's around. I always look for light background geometry, and then for the personal expression at the I context. So I'm I'm not making it really easy for myself. So the moment I bought somebody. I almost kind of getting to like. Non verbal conversation with that person. I'm gonna go gaff seeking. Yes, you're there. I have to get over that point. So I start moving and then when you saw moving again, we have to be careful because you cannot approach people. I can straight lines the first things I do I kind of walk in a curve to a position. I assume it's going to be the best one for the shot. And when I get also result might not work. So at every step of the way, the shelters is fifty percent Bill fail. At least for fifty percent one-time. They're trying to find the frame look at the background look at the light on on somebody's face. And then the challenge comes in is like dose that person. Look not at me. But do they look at my camera? 'cause that's usually the moment when I take the shelves. So my logic is kind of scanning than kind of assuming what's going to happen next. So to hide and the chance of of of the candid moment, we're off of decisive moment. Get into position way difficult the lie. If get the person, so it's a whole whole J things that can go wrong. And as you also know as you shoot street in eighty percent of the cases, they actually do go wrong. But you know, just do it again. And again, if the dentist, and they seen you what you quit your acting at that point after we got in the shot when I got the shop, usually I'm just kind of walking away. I mean, there's a whole nother aspect of this was a lot of acting and psychology not in a sneaky way. But in any kind of a good way like trying not to be dominant, and these kind of things so usually they don't want me out. And then I just put my head down. But my camera way and walk away and even walking away, there's a certain psychology. Sometimes it works well to just walk towards the person passed that person rather close which gives them the impression that this had off into the with them. And there's a lot of these little tricks, but I rarely get into confrontations. I'm not trying. To talk to people. I'm not interested in their personal stories religious going for the story individual. Yeah. I mean, there's so many different ways to sort of responded reactive. I don't I don't have a singular technique that. I approach is. So I just do as it feels. Right. Sometimes I do like you. And I'm just like just keep moving and other times. I just made like non my head. I'll say thank you. Or, you know, it's just basically improvises as the moment calls for and in most times, it's never a big deal. I've had more people who before graph. I wasn't taking complain about what I was doing. Then the people that I photograph that's been more common than any direct confrontation than someone that I've made a photograph. Absolutely. That's that's one side. And what also happens to me way? More people actually buys those pointing out that you take an picture of somebody like did trying to try to care about the person you're trying to take a picture. Off. But then when it comes to confrontation, I have a certain logic on how I approached is. I believe that even though we're trying to good for people by doing street photography from an ethical point of view. We're always shooting for and against the people. So the moment they actually come. I think we have in the game to explain them. What we are doing in the most friendly open way into very quickly. Eliminate the fear that that we are creeps 'cause low people don't understand the difference between observing and documenting and while observing is an act of observe Asian documentation to me is an act of of interest. Or if we wanna say more more emotional love. Yeah. I find you interesting. I want to give you a in the best case, although ninety nine percent of all cases, that's not gonna happen. But if the shot is really good, let me give you a little bit of eternity to trying to make an iconic picture of you. So it's really pause. Act towards the people when things I've been thinking about recently and eventually written good amount of about this is this idea of transitions about as if otographer you're constantly learning and adapting and improving in that that evolution is not just about how you take pictures. But how you see? And I thought that I would riff this with you. Because I think that from what I know of you one of seen about your work that you've you've been aware of that in your in your own work, because I know yourself taught and that you drew a lot of inspiration from other photographers and other artists who practice other mediums. And I wanted to talk to you about the awareness of not just the pictures that you're making but your process, and by that I mean, it's hard to define process. It's not just the it's not just the mechanics, but it's it's the way you think about what you see. In how you're seeing it that make sense. Yes. I think you're referring to like, how do we? When we go out. We don't care how we perceive fangs and how what's reflection process in reminds. You're going to give you an example. I was actually did a YouTube video on this this past week. And then I heard Stephen shore. We'll famous photographer who speaking here in Pasadena, recently, any talked about this idea of those phase in his is full graphic life when he would photograph something and the intention intentionally of it was really evident the photograph in terms of how he controlled the frame or lose the line and shape, and and you can look at the photograph and just because of its preciseness you're aware of the photographer inventory that. And then there's some point he moved to trying to create pictures where that was less evident. Where the photograph almost seemed like a snapshot, but the twice as were still there, but it was less obvious. And that kind of transition is just one example of that idea of being conscious of how you're seeing shooting and making a purposeful different choice to sort of take your work in a slightly different direction. Where you on that? But I also understand. He does I feel I'm currently exactly insults moment. It always my it's almost like you learning something. And then you can you can repeat it and repeat again, and it becomes kind of boring to yourself. Right. And it's it's it's probably even also very personal decision. Because that's the moment where you either kind of ride that wave, and you continue reproducing what you've done and people like or you purposefully throw yourself back into insecurity and kind of also failing again, and I I embrace that. And I did every step in my life. When something too comfortable too, easy to purposely break it and kind of shake it up and find different methods, and I feel I'm currently in the middle of that been shooting for three four years now, and I've just been shooting this afternoon here in Zurich. And while I was walking thinking I could take so many shots. They would work, but they're not new. They don't excite me. Any? More. So how do I go about like, how do I change my method some trying to change? My math may become more very reflected in how shoot maybe become more kind of intuition based instead of logic based in my way of shooting on the other hand, I'm going into a documentary and end your work where that's still actually reflecting about it and trying to pull down an intended together intended story or follow a narrative extremely important. So I'm trying to make my street photography more spontaneous. And my other side of my work more herbs, full, so. Yeah. I mean, we need to change up. Sometimes if we do the same for over and over again, we are not challenging up at we should always challenge on him and DEA of doing stuff outside of our genre is really important because I know like you when I'm doing work for nonprofits or NGOs that. The intent of the images is different than what the photographs. I'm creating for myself. But I still apply everything that I learned on the street to careening those images, and as a result, the images are still rooted in whatever sensibility I've created, but I'm having to apply them in a different way. And the demands on me in terms of the kinds of photographs and the content of the photograph has shifted because there's a there's a purpose beyond simply creating a photograph that is aesthetically pleasing and satisfy satisfies me creatively. And it seems like that's what you're experiencing as you're doing work for Indios and in profits as well. Yes, I think it's important. I've always believed that photography needs a purpose street photography has a purpose in general, and I strongly believe in the purpose of street, photography bugged. Then I think we can do. Good things we'd our cameras, and it's a totally different approach shooting also documentary here in Zurich in area that is about this appear which is little bit around the red light and the more of areas of town. And I believe that you know, we need to meet to meaningful things with our cameras, and then telling his story becomes a whole different on the taking when I go on the street. The only thing I'm responsible for is my ethics and my personal philosophy. And when I get into people's lives or I'm like getting the trust to be close to them. And they let me in on certain things, I'm responsible towards them. And that's a whole nother reflection process. Do I do Justice to the subject, my representing them rights? Is there a message that I should consider that is important to the story. 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So that's always kind of my my that always defines my level of of of sympathy towards towards photographer, and people are all over the place. There's a few photography in Switzerland. That are highly admire some just left us euro two ago. Like our neighboring who did amazing work. I'm just drawn to people who are serious about what they do. I'm drawn to brave people drawn to people who are willing to take risks to to comeback with with amazing pictures or to speak for something. So to answer is in short. I think it's it's all over the planet. Just a certain core in New York that I gravitate to but this equally as much talk side Meyer. The of Europe or in central Europe is do you see any sort of or what differences? Do you? Do you see with respect to people who are outside of the, you know, the classic locations of street photography in terms of how the culture itself the community itself helps to reshape how a common practice in this case photography is sort of adopted made its own by people in in different communities. Do you see any anything that makes the community not only zero Zurich, but maybe they Mead vicinity very distinctive as opposed to somewhere else. Yeah. And I have to be careful about this. Because it also means I'm kind of judging people to degree. I can I can put this balls deform. I was highly impressed, for example, by the photo community Bucharest, just because it's different I met the people to have a most of them kind of studied are to some degree or like visual design. So the the the law for for the visual is a different one than maybe just doing street photography for for leisure time. And that attracts me a lot as yellow sincerity in people from yen rice. Yes, be seed and hang out in New York. They're really serious about about the street stories, they come in different flavors, different cultural backgrounds. But it's always the the law of for for what they do that that it that impresses me. But yes, there's differences. I feel in New York you very conscious that you're in New York, you're at the birthplace of of of street photography and people have have this kind of field. While in all the places they have to create their own identity thing in Bucharest. I was so impressed by the pictures of of this collective and said man, the guy who owns the collector, Mikhail Tolley men. I so many friends in New York who love to shoot like that. And his answer highly impressed me because he went and he was like tell him to come here because that's how things over here. So and this is the moment where I'm like, okay. I feel like you can stand for your own some attracted to that. Yeah. Fascinating. When I look at the images of people submit to our candidate flicker pool, which is from everywhere from not only Europe and the United States from South America and southeast Asia. And I I, you know, I just I'm amazed by not just the quality of the work, but sometimes sort of distinctive voice that I see coming from these places that is not just reflective of where. They are you know, it's easy to think that all these pictures are interesting just because they seem exotic to my to my I know there's something else. That's also happening there with how people are seeing relating to the people and the space that they're photographing which is fascinating. Because I remember when I first started to look at the work of Japanese photographers took me a while to really understand why these sort of graphs, which were considered to be the better photographs coming out of that country. Why I was having difficulty getting it because they're different aesthetic considerations. That were being made with those photographers that I had not yet sorta got in tune with. It's kind of like how experience the work of Lee Friedlander, right? I looked at that. And I was just like I don't understand why this is supposed to work, right? And I just hadn't gone to the space could get it. And do you experience something along the same lines? When you're looking at other people's. Work whether it's from another region, whether it's a generational thing. Always. I mean, I have I'm sitting next to close like hundred photo books, and depending on where they come from always highly impressed with actually sparks my interest. Because as you said like the first impression is like, what is this exactly? And then you dig into it, and you start on the standing it and kind of like look up different people who do the same thing. And all of a sudden, there's a whole culture of something that you not been aware of an approach of something that you've not been aware of interest. Like, so Rico's, you can always learn from these kind of things and no matter how what else I find interesting is low matter how different it might look in the beginning. I think you can always feel the sincerity behind the work. Even if it's maybe strange at first, look, you can feel there's a reflection behind this purpose full. And that actually makes you kinda wanna dig into it. What's the thinking about your work in especially that work on your side is at you have a distinctive black and white luck to your photographs? And have you had any concern that you can get locked into a particular luggage, especially when it comes to post processing because it can be just as much of a trap as is shooting a specific way as we talked about early or you just sort of repeating yourself how how much is a consideration of those factors play in terms of how you choose to process your images. Well, one dollars one of the first thing I wanted to achieve is that that images have kind of similar look to themselves. I want to like when you look at it to see those come from the same series and call me from drawing, I have a very conscious about, you know, grace gales and how what's the deepest black coin providers white point in these kind of things so. I was purposefully working on kind of getting them all into the same look. But now doing this for three four years. I'm actually wanna finish my personal Bishen wanna get together a hundred pictures of kind of the same quality level and the same look and make it a body of work that I can also leave behind at some point if I like to and we honest with you. I'm just I'm just editing all my work from the last year and more often, I find myself drawn to making those pictures in color of happening in the back of my head. I'm thinking about should I I'm quite already committed to like probably doing my documentary work if you drink collar and more and more St. Charles, I'm like, they would look good in color. So there's a lot of things happening in the back of my head that fascinating that took place. That's a good place to be also don't wanna drive myself in into into that corner. I think I haven't awareness because I spent ten years in the music business which. From from from the mechanisms in the background or also to create the perception of the creative delivery in the music business similar to the one in photographic industry. I tend to believe as far as to now having very Asian is important and not driving yourself into a corner and keep options open. And I mean once somebody puts a tag on you, you should really think if you wanna keep that tag or maybe wanna get rid of it. So I'm with you on there for that. I'm also trying to break that up on my side. Yeah. Like the continuity. You do the pretty law podcast. So that provide you access to a lot of different photographers, just like I do on this show and in having a chance to engage other people about not just the use of one particular makeup camera, but just discussing things like we are now how much if any has that influenced the way that you see and make photographs. I don't think it has influenced. My my photography were my parole checked recklessly. But what I figured is. We're all the same. So no matter if if I should fascinates me about it is that everybody that is like doing things that are heartfelt. And that that drives them forward. No matter what is already in or what kind of subjects. They should the reflection process is a lot of times the same. Like, you want to do Justice to a subject, you really commit to something and follow it up. And this kind of confirmed me in my my personal attitude towards that. Like, you find something you quote bide into it. And then you do that. And you do it with all some prices me for years. So the more I talked to for target. I that I admire and that the amazing work. There's no instant reward recognition in photography. There's no fast, richer info talker. She if there's any at all so most people really doing stuff for five or ten years, they do it because they're passionate and that impresses me. And with them I can identify and it confirms me in my approach. That's a good philosophy to have. Yup. More often impressed with people than I mean. I'm really people who and is so different. They're so different. But that's the core that kinda unites them all I mean, you can take a lifestyle photographer a street photographer documentary photographer and the landscape photographer, and if we really drill down to the core. What drives them to stories are going to be very similar. I think discovering that isn't that is really a fun part of the journey of having these conversations 'cause I visit when you talk to people whose work is so distinctly distinctly different from what you create and yet you're able to tap into that commonality that drives you just in terms of making photographs, but something more more personal eighty really just goes to show that how more of the same. We are than we are different. And it's for me. It's it's it's heartening to realize that especially when I interview someone whose work. I greatly admire. Who's had amazing career that somehow? I'm connected to that same energy that same sensibility that same thing that makes us each wanna do something with the camera. And I think it's really cool and humbling and also at the same time, you know, what I believe what it is. And also extends beyond actually photography. I think it's creativity. Yeah. Unites, those creativity. And that's the distinction. I make in the photo world between the technicians and the creatives those who choose to use the medium to express themselves and those who are interested in the technicalities of the medium. And I think the common denominator there that you mentioned from absolutely is also from the as of the futures creativity. Yeah. Yeah. I love the way you make the distinction because the especially the last couple of months all the dialogue about the new cameras, and all these people basically these factions of people who want to say thumbs up. It's down this sucks. This is all that other stuff. I have no patience for at all. And it's more about okay? You can have those conversations. I really wanna see the pictures. I really want to creating with with with this new Nikon on this new Sony. This new Fuji this new. Yeah. Yeah. That's all great. But what what are going to be? What are people doing with it that for me is always a much more interesting conversation to have then you know, whether it has two or one card slot rides. And I usually tell I mean when those conversations come up are usually asked by can you tell me the sharpest picture of the less century. And then silence appears says that's because nobody cares. Who's the sharp is picture? But you know, you can tell me probably wants to picture that emotionally impacted you the most. And I'm sure it's technically not perfect. Oh, yeah. And also, I mean when have you seen specific to photography, which kinda surprised me because when have you seen the last time to paint or sit down at the Louvre and say well. This painting on the left corner. If he would have used a different pencil, the red would look so much better. Yeah. Yeah. You what breasted to us? What type of is in some degree? There are always people who are always gonna be fixated to some extent on the technical. Because it's it's the easier of the conversation to have I true. And if I may link back to your question earlier before it's the choice that never forces you to to question your own security gonna have to break your pattern. If you're on the technical side. This is gonna feed you for your whole lifetime. You're always going to have new sensors Newlands. But if you on the creative side as we just discussed every three or four years, you might get into some personal struggle because you change your methods anything excellent point because you the former guarantees your certain sense of security, especially when it's mirrored by other people, right? If people say, this is the best lines. This is. The best technique, blah, blah, blah. But when you get into creativity, and you make those different choices you're in for a level of discomfort and challenge that is not easily or commonly shared with anyone else. It's those moments. You're really are alone in your own process. And it's not gonna be remedied by any casual conversation that you're gonna have some form online, which is. You know, why it's so difficult, but also why can be the most fulfilling. Absolutely. But you have to willing to take the pain. If you don't take the pain, you're not gonna have to phone a my personal experiences. We'd creativity the pain. I mean, if if you really push yourself to be created a pay never goes away. It's tag rel part of the process. Yeah. I was listening to a podcast with cheese on he's the lead actress on a show called blackish. And she's the daughter of Diana Ross. And I forget her first first name, but she was being interviewed on Larry Wilmore's show black on the air. And she talked about that when it comes to her work, or it's on film on stage or TV. She's always scared. But the difference is she's gotten used to being scared. She's got a custom to it. So it's not something to avoid rather. It's something that she's. Accepted is just part of her process and that. Excuse me from the regiment. I wouldn't even say just accepted. It's it's it's an insensitive. It's you you if you avoid that phase nothing is going to happen. It's almost like, you know, fair because I mean, the same thing is let me put it differently. I mean today, I believe also in the most respectful way possible people often replicate themselves, especially if we like kind of look over to social media Instagram, these kind of things. Yeah, there's a method to getting a lights just at the method to getting liked is is there's no no, no friction. There's nothing new basically repeat to get love. And I think that when you like trying to create something new you cannot avoid going into the unknown and cold called the dark, and this is where all those douse. The reflections insecure. The app. And that's where most of for me, personally, the good things come from of almost became accustomed to this kind of roller coaster. So I I know it's going down maybe having photographers block or just a bad month for something like this. But I've learned that by going down a half to take that momentum to swing up the other way, the more embrace it the more. It's going to swing me up deal the way, but if I've always did on never pick up that kinda mental because it's when I see those Instagram Instagram IRS who are very popular, and they have consistent style and look to their images, and I've seen people say that, oh, if you wanna get Instagram flower, followers, that something that you sort of need to do you need to be consistent in sort of the vision that you put in those, but I can't help. But think that yeah. But you locking yourself in. But as soon as you wanna change up, you know, you're going to have to deal with the fact that you're going to be like. Yeah. But that's not what you you did before it's like a band or singer, and they released an album that was received great acclaim and the second comes out and going, but it's like your first one. I mean, you have to you have to see if you can I believe, and it's also my philosophy on social medias. You have to bring something from outside of social media that you want to communicate and you'll find the people that actually won't succeed it if you just make knows and social media for fame is what you do is as you just mentioned, you create your echo chamber the moment. You change told the whole thing breaks. So there's no there's no sustainability in Instagram fame, and plus we're moving, and it's my personal philosophy. We're moving in the world of photography. I look over to my left as a whole lot of names in my in my book shelf that they never had Instagram, and, but they created something outstanding within Aurora or within a discipline and that gives them longevity. I mean, I cannot remember who was famous on Instagram two years ago. But I. I know the ten best photo books of the nineteen sixties. So what should I aim for? Amen bri. Well, my last question which asked each guest's asked them to recommend another photographer for listeners to discover and explore and it can be anyone. So you've long admired or some new recently discovered with that one for tiger for being why? Well, I'm sorry. I have to name two names that the second one is the one that Africa. Maybe my first choice will be due to being one of my best personal inspirations when I started. But he was already on your podcast, and people know drain zero is highly admired a guy was guiding light in my first years of talk. But then what I was really recommended to check out. Somebody recently talked to the Fujio of podcast, which is a Danish photographer by the name of Klaus boat, and he has an incredibly fascinating projects, which is called the dead and alive project, and he's photographing this for thirteen years where he goes into deaf, rituals and and. The passing of people and don't Kamenz that in different cultures. And he gets very close to that. And Amarah impressed by his work because he sold his car invested his own money. Follow this object for thirteen years. Work is great. And for me is a great example of somebody who dedicates a large part of their life to to photographic work. Oh, great. I'm not caught up on my episodes with guy. So definitely when I hear that one. Can't blame you for that. All right. Thank you so much better. It was a pleasure to finally sit down and then talk with your properly. So thank you. 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