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"spicer" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"Anti-trump but it's all this stuff and I think sometimes when you see bits and pieces, you don't fully appreciate the totality. That it comes out as individuals because I started to do a whole chapter on education starting to realize what some of these kids you wonder why kids are liberal women. you start seeing horses that they're learning and what teachers are doing in. So many classrooms on the country you go. No kidding. Sean Spicer is the author of leading America President Trump's commitment to people patriotism and capitalism. It'll be available at bookstores October thirteenth you can pre-order it. Now give me a little insight, a little colour for your relationship with the president. You know you were the person going out and and taking the hostile questions from the media talk about how y'all fashioned that message because I've never seen a president in my lifetime as engaged his own consultant he is his own guy for messaging and all those in and I. Honestly don't think there's a consultant out there. That has the gut for his message the way he does, but but he had to convey that to you. So how did that work? Yeah. So to the point that you're making, it's actually it's an inverse relationship that's flipped on its head normally I and you know other consultants would tell the candidate or the principal you know. Okay. Here's how we should say here's what we should do and it was quite the opposite with trump. He called you and say, okay when you get asked about this, here's how I want. You say your what I wanted to say and what there was a learning curve at the beginning where we would sit down and start to go out and talk about policies and issues and what happened was and I learned. Baptism by fire where I get called in and they say you know Sean and I go and start soaking I'm GonNa go out and brief I'm going to go out and do this and we would sit down he would say and I'd take it easily the ten questions that you're going to get or that I'm GonNa get on your behalf how do you want me to answer them? He's okay on this say that I haven't made up my mind on this on this one say that I don't agree with the current policy but he he was very specific about how wanted you communicate is policies in his beliefs..
"spicer" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"It'll be available October thirteenth the book is entitled Leading America President Trump's commitment to people patriotism and capitalism. He was, of course, the first press secretary under president trump for that tumultuous first year when it seemed like everyone was out to get the president the FBI investigations. Flynn. Carter, page who we talked to yesterday and and he was there in the bunker as. It was happening. Do you look back now and say to yourself? You know it was a lot tougher during those first six months because now I feel like the president really has his legs under him. He really has his his footing and it's a lot harder for them to land punches on him because now he's figured out who were his friends and how to move the needle in what he needs to do and not do, and it just feels like it's a little easier for It does I think you're right though he's found his forty he found what works for him but also and equally important for the staff they've seen what works for him and what doesn't right. So when when I was there at the beginning, we were kind of running through a traditional malt while the president always does this. This is how it always happens. This is how it's usually worked and we needed time for the president to break some of those molds and say I don't really care. This is what I WANNA do. This is how I want to do it. I'm not going to do it just 'cause they. Took a little while for us to to you know for him to find his grew and for us to adjust to that and So I think you're right though he found his footing people who are around him know how he operates they can adjust accordingly and he knows who's with him, who's against them and how to operate in a much more effective and decisive way. It is interesting to watch his growth in the role as president. I was a Ted Cruz. Guy Was not a donald trump guy I didn't believe he would do this. Well, I didn't think he would govern as a conservative, but he has but I have to say. You know for a guy that you had not seen in a political role we knew George Bush could do this. He'd been governor of Texas right. But for a guy.
"spicer" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"What was your proudest moment as press secretary and communications director under President Trump That's you know I have been out for two and a half year almost three years. And No. One's asking me I some great personal moments where I got to bring my family to the White House and share the experience awesome But we'll tell you the one the the two things that I thought were great. Who's when we got neal gorsuch over the finish line and the way that we got tax reform moving the gorsuch thing I love just because it was like having a front row seat to history in a way that very thing people do just there's not that make trump's gonna have three picks already but most presidents don't have that many most people don't have a role to play. So that was pretty cool. The second was I. I was at the infancy of getting everything ready for tax reform. Summer that year and it and it happened. But the thing that was fascinating I worked on the hill I worked the RNC I'd worked in the Bush White House. I knew kind of how to pull together in terms of and I'd watch we had done not well on healthcare. And to watch that happen and people kept saying, it's not going to get done. There's no way you can do that and that sort of a times fan and watch it happen and think, okay, I wasn't there for the for the end of it but I was there at the beginning. Was a really cool thing. Well you know I I remember Nancy Pelosi Saint was peanuts wasn't peanuts to me it. When peanuts to the people I know peanuts to work in custody. It accelerated the economy's growth in an explosive manner and it's it's it is it is truly historic wasn't covered that way but is truly historic. What happened in December of that year which I know you've been working on the whole year. I mean, look I I it again, it keeps going back to this point, but we're we're dancing on the head of the same pin here that people have to look at where the economy was, what the direction of country and you have to admit to yourself regardless of your political positions that this president actually got things done in the country was moving in the right direction. You may not like a lot of the policies, but you can't do the thing that they were so beautiful about trump to. Was I remember during my tenure. People would say you know he's moving the embassy to Jerusalem he's getting out of their Iran agreement. And I'm like so you guys are basically flabbergasted someone came to Washington and kept their word, right? Yeah. Nothing more Sean Spicer is our guest book is leading America President. Trump's commitment to people patriotism and capitalism will continue this conversation.
"spicer" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show
"You know him from dancing with the stars. You may have even known that he had a brief political career I kid we love Sean Spicer and honored to have him. He has a new book coming out which we're GONNA talk about and he was president trump's first press secretary was White House communications director. He'd been at the RNC before that, and now he's on Newsmax and we are delighted he's with us. Now Sean Yearbook says leading America President, Trump's commitment to people patriotism and capitalism sounds to me like you left the white. House but your heart is in a trump presidency for four more years. Absolutely yes. when he's not just in in a trump presidency I think that you know I've been in politics. You mentioned that just a second ago for a long time and I truly believe that like what we're seeing in terms of the choices that we have this election is like nothing I've seen in my lifetime there is a radical difference in the Jenas and the policies and the direction that our country's going to go in depending on who we elect a real act, this November, and and so I kind of the whole idea of the book is to lay out all the different areas and what's at stake and why we need to fight frankly, and I think it's funny because. I don't know about you. But I the conservative sometimes I feel like we're winding like I'll say I can't believe the way we've got treated. I had this thing my show yesterday I showed the pay the front page of The Washington Post with when justice in Glade is versus what they had on the front page of The Washington Post when Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg passed away and it was just a start contract and I know. That people sometimes fully appreciate the full scope of in terms of what happens in the educational system to indoctrinate children. What happens in corporate Hollywood excuse me in corporate in the corporate world what happens in Hollywood, what happens and big media and entertainment and tech in terms of the decisions get made that influence our society. So I finally started putting it all down on paper because I thought. This is what's at stake right now and I don't think there are people who say, Oh, it really doesn't who wins or you know I don't like trump's tweets or whatever it is. I'm trying to say folks understand the totality of what's at stake in what's on the ballot this agenda this this year. Where you're absolutely right. Let's take a good example. Last week we had the UAE deal. We had the Bahrain dill and the media just sort of pretended it didn't happen. Those are historic deals, not just for those countries, but for the region and the world that that presidents before him were unable to do. But if you don't tell people about it and they don't know it's almost as if it didn't happen and it's infuriating. Well, the other thing my it's not just what what what I think. It's fascinating to me is it's you know I I was talking with this new show the other day we had a bunch of folks that were analyzing that Jewish vote and we're doing this all week. So we the Catholic, but we're GONNA talk about L. D. s. this evening we're GONNA look at the Evangelical Book and and they were going over all these accomplishments the president has done for. People who care about Israel, and I was like why he's not translating like it's amazing. We talk about the black community and his is the record amount of money these court towards historically black colleges and universities..
10-year-old killed and 5-year-old injured after Chicago police chase ends in crash
"One person is facing charges today in connection with the police chase yesterday. That ended with a young girl dead. The story from Devil to BB EMS Bernie to FOIA 10 year old to carry a Spicer was with her 43 year old father, Kevin, and five year old brother, Damir. When a black Mercedes being chased briefly by Chicago police hit their car on 80th and Halstead. He? Spicer's have been on their way to get a laptop for to carry it to be able to do remote learning. Daria Quinn is the Children's aunt until CBS too, and it was a police chase. And One of the cars they get hit, flipped over and hit the car that my brother Paul, on my niece and nephew. Rain to carry a Spicer's brother was seriously injured and is in the hospital. The Children's father and a woman who'd been driving. Another car that was hit were slightly injured. Investigations are underway into the crash and the police pursuit.
Soviet-era nerve agent used to poison Russias Navalny.
"Opposition leader Alexei Navalny was poisoned with the same type of Soviet era nerve agent used in a two thousand eighteen attack on a former Russian spy. The German government said yesterday provoking outrage from Western leaders who demanded Moscow provide an explanation the findings which experts say point strongly to Russian stays involvement added to tensions between Russia and the West German. Chancellor. Angela. Merkel called Navan these poisoning attempted murder meant to silence one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's fiercest critics the Berlin hospital treating the dissident said he remains on. A ventilator though his condition is improving, it says it expects a long recovery and still can't rule out long-term effects on his health from the poisoning. The German government said that testing by military laboratory showed proof without doubt of chemical nerve agent from the Nova Choke Group. Procedural varieties identified Nova Chuck as the poison used on film Spicer Gays Scrip Pal and his daughter in England navalny politician and corruption investigator fell ill on a flight to Moscow on August twentieth and was taken to a hospital in the Siberian city of. After, the plane made an emergency landing, he was moved two days later to Berlin Charity Hospital where doctors last week said, initial tests indicated navalny had been poisoned. Nevada. Allies in Russia. Have insisted he was deliberately poisoned by the country's authorities accusations that the Kremlin has rejected as empty noise. It would not be the first time a prominent outspoken Russian was targeted in such a way all the first time the Kremlin was accused of being behind it. Nevada allies have also accused Russian authorities of delaying his transfer out of the country after the poisoning.
Solving the mental load update
"When we first spoke about the mental load on this podcast, there was a fringe cartoon cold. You should've asked that was going viral. It explained the mental load with such clarity that when I first saw it, my reaction was fury. I wanted to. Shift to the ground. It showed a woman with a baby and a hapless male partner who was kind, but needed to be told how to help and it so familiar. So common. So exasperating and so profoundly unfair. Journalist, Tracey spicer new. What I was talking about. It was an absolute lightbulb moment for me, I sir, Clementine, Ford's facebook page. I share with everyone and I knew that went viral swear words and it happened in the time when I realized that my life with my wonderful husband who's fifty fifty with the housework fifty, fifty with the childcare, but it was just the little things. I'm always the one who organizes school holiday care or who takes the time to look after the kids or rangers everyone's Christmas presents or birthday present in his extended family and my extended family. So after reading that I, decided to go on strike in the household so he had to do it drove him Berserk. He said this is crazy. Such little school holiday cared Australia. I said now you know my pain. Jenny talk about the mental load in your life. I think when I saw the catching was like, oh, no added that to my mental learn. About. How often I think about the mental load? That's Jenny Leong amp in New South Wales Parliament I was very lucky and I consider it to be like that. My partner was able to access paid parental leave. So he was the primary care for a significant amount of time and in that case he did take the mental Lloyd and a lot of that was then there that the what's interesting is once we're both Both. Back at work where the default position falls back and the expectation of WHO's supposed to know those things to me. Then you feel like part of it is also all of my being bad feminist because of that because I think then adds another level to it to how much you should make a deal of this or not I noticed the gender dynamic with my. Friends that are in. Relationships, they're both men they quite comfortably into stereotypes, gender roles that old without all of the challenges and the. Doctor Leah. Repent on a lecturer in sociology at the University of, Melbourne. She racist as domestic labor, and this idea of the mental load is her field of expertise. I'm going to start and say a little bit controversial. Say That everyone actually carries the mental load. So some portion of your mental load may go to thinking about your career. Some portion of it may go to thinking about your family and some portion of it may be going to thinking about your personal life and the differences, the balance across men and women. So you could imagine men are spending a lot more of their mental load thinking about how do I advance my career thinking about the day to day challenges of work. That is a very different mental load than who is going to pick up the child from daycare. or WHO's GonNa Organize School holidays or who's doing the housework wise. House a mass. And one leads to economic outcome, career mobility and one is just unpaid sometimes recognized sometimes not recognized labor. And I think that's really the difference. How do we shift the ratio? Definitely does seat more with women the. Yeah, I, K-. So we're all in agreement about that. Absolutely. Absolutely, the balance in terms of unpaid in terms of thinking about the experience is disproportionately shouldered by women. Yes. Absolutely. Once, you get your head around the idea of the mental load. You start seeing it everywhere in the lives of your friends, colleagues, your mother, your self. It. Happens to women in all walks of life and age and six urology, but it seems to hit hardest when there's a baby. So. Now, we have a name for the mental load. But. The problem is naming, it doesn't make it go away. As I was sobbing thinking. I used to be able to manage employees teams. And now I'm too overwhelmed to even manage a grocery list. And more importantly. How did I become the default for every single child care and household tasks for my family? It wasn't supposed to happen to me. This is a road ski shades La, and she's written a book called Fairplay, which is all about fairly distributing the mental load aves marriage nearly ended when her husband center, it takes saying. I'm surprised you didn't get blueberries. She was furious at the assumption that she had gone from high powered lawyer to full-time Default Blueberry shepper. Eight. Knew she had to do something about it? She says, there are a few ways to look the mental load. My favorite was a term from nineteen eighty-seven and American sociologist named Arlene Kaplan. Daniels. coined a term called invisible work. In why like that term so much is because that's the only one that had a modicum of a solution in it. Because I kept thinking to myself. Maybe. Maybe if I can make. Visible all the invisible things I was doing from my home and family for my husband, Seth? Maybe then he would value what I did.
Daria Gavrilova on finding out what makes her happy
"Daria Gavrilova Dario Welcome or should I say Yeah Dasha that's about it. Thanks. Thanks for having me. I really excited to have a chat We've been in the lockdown so. As like yes. Sure. Chat. You guys probably not a lot of people to be honest right now not seeing too many people and. Also. Look at ten spicer were trying to be even Loris say. Because we are still allowed to go to training, but we're just being careful. So we create our own Babul within this bobble. There's another bubble it's just like. Crazy but that's okay. It seems like Australia's taking the quarantine current Ivar. So so so seriously because you were out of lockdown on your back in lockdown yet because our K. went up again. So they're probably GONNA keep going up for the loss while before gone back down but. Yet, wherein stage three right now is Toria somewhat every state. So even though you've been quarantined and all that I mean, have you actually stop training at all during this whole lockdown quarantine thing or have you not really been able to train as much? The first lockdown were lucky. We got all the gym equipment and. Hope back home and I just did my own workouts but I had like everything I had barbells ahead. You know all the heavy stuff. The chain I had the what black. Though I was able to train almost as normal, and we're allowed to go outside and do sessions outside and then yet. We're allowed to get back on the tennis court on a few weeks later. So that was the case and now. With tennis they restrictions noticed straight. So we're able to still come to the tennis and train. What's your thoughts though in when you will play a tournament because I know we have a scheduled tentatively starting from August onward where do you plan to go if anywhere? Well. I don't know to be on the I still have no idea I think many people due to illness. It's like the two options either starting in the in America or go straight to Europe. But I haven't decided. Let's talk about if. Everything everything still up in the air like ribs the. If it's all happening or not. So I'll just decide as light as possible. I think the one thing that I've taken from this whole quarantine whether or not the WTO starting again is just we know nothing that's all I know is that we know nothing there's nothing that's concrete. There's nothing written in stone at the moment though are. Able to come to the US like if you were to leave tomorrow for tournament, if there was a tournament, Mar, would you be able to head allows way? I'll will have to have an exemption and how hard is that to get well, we apply for an exemption to go overseas So we I think we're allowed to come see West but the de Straton government doesn't really want us to travel. So we need to have an exemption and we all applied for it and we still haven't had the answer but well, for example, arena already that shit got. An exemption, a world's intense. So quarantine what have you been up to staying sane I know not just training surely there's been a lot of new hobbies fun things to get into out of TIKTOK FU talks. I don't dance take talks 'cause I can't but I just. Make Fun of myself in posted anyway because it looks hilarious what else Well, I'm always been a bit like artsy artsy. I. I've been painting a bit I actually bought. Some real clay and been making like clay pieces and going to stadium than firing them of Maddie. Few they're all on my instagram few on the hub. And you know playing with the puppy and smashing natural lakes. You know I don raid much. But I've just that like rating Lena's book I was always intrigued on like how everything works in China how how does how does the federation work and how Cana tennis player come through and like she was the first one to come through and yeah, it's actually a real good book. It's awesome. Have your. Wedding plans taken a bit of a pause because of this whole thing. Yeah. We actually decided pretty early decided lack marsh that registered a postponed until next year
Rep. John Lewis Makes Final Stop in Atlanta
"Rights activist and icon who became a moral force in the United States. Congress will be laid to rest. Today. He's been celebrated in a series of memorials this week and this past Sunday, he received a hero's sendoff in his native state of Alabama. And on Monday, Congressman Lewis was honored in Washington, DC It was an emotional Ceremony with lawmakers. His colleagues Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, played a portion of a speech that Lewis gave to graduates at Emory University in 2014. As young people. You must understand that there are forces that would take us back to another period. But you must know that would mark warned by way made too much progress and we're going to make you some step back. Some delays some disappointment, but you must never give up. I give in. You must keep the faith and keep so eyes on the prize. That is so calling. That is your mission That is tomorrow. Obligation that is oh, man. They get out there and do it getting away. Lewis lay in state in the Capitol Rotunda following the ceremony, making him the first black lawmaker to receive that honor. And today, Congressman Lewis comes home to Atlanta, Georgia. The funeral service is being held at the historic Ebeneezer Baptist Church, where the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr was once co pastor and joining us Now is Emma Hurt. She's a reporter with our member station W. A. B in Atlanta, and she joins us live from outside of Ebeneezer Baptist and Emma describe what it's like there where you are right now. Hi, Emma. Can you hear me? Emma will be joining us shortly. She is outside of Ebenezer Baptist Church. Now let's go to Debbie Elliot. We'll check back in with Emma. And just a few moments. Hi, Debbie. How are you? I am good. I know that you spent a lot of time in Alabama over the weekend. There were several memorials and services. It was quite a scene. Right. You know, I think the thing that stands out the most was was when he was in Selma and his casket was on this horse drawn carriage. And it crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, of course, that iconic place where he was met with state troopers and sheriff's deputies who beat him up in a peaceful march for voting rights. Back in 1965 and people had come to sort of witness him make that Symbolic final crossing. Yeah, you've been You've known the congressman for for many years. You spoke with him back in 2015 at that. Edmund Pettus Bridge. Tell us about that. Yes. So this was in advance of 50th anniversary celebrations marking You know, 50 years since the Voting Rights Act passed because of that horrible incident on that bridge. The nation in the world really became aware of the brutality against African Americans who were pushing for equality in the American South. And so I met him there. We stood at the foot of the bridge, and we had a conversation about what it was like back then. And let's listen to a little bit, and he describes what happened on that came before. Beating us. Shrimping with horses. Releasing the tick and I was getting here. A state trooper with the night stick. My legs went from under me. I thought I was going to die. I thought I saw death. He thought he saw death, You know, and this was a moment where he had been that the the sheriff's deputy in the state troopers told them you have to turn back. We're not going to let you march to Montgomery. And they asked to kneel in prayer and as they went to kneel in prayer before they were going to turn back and go back to their churches. They were told. The meeting started. Tell me what's so powerful about that moment in history is that it was it was. It was a time where people were able to see for the first time the brutality. Those images were so powerful. It was labeled bloody Sunday and it sped up the passages you said of the 1965 Voting Rights Act. Debbie will will come back to you a little later to talk more about that. That's NPR's Debbie Elliot. We now have with us in the hurt. She is a reporter with our member station W. Abe in Atlanta, and she's outside of Ebeneezer Baptist Church where services will be held today. And Emma describe for us what it's like for you out there right now what you're seeing. Okay. Hi, Emma. This is Tanya. Can you hear me? Hi. Yeah. Can you hear me? I can I know that. It's It's quite a crowd. Okay? Can you tell us a bit about what you're seeing out there? I'm seeing I'd say about 200 people out here and we've kind of got to groups. We've got the people that are starting to gather at the Jumbotron, which has been set up right outside the church. I'm waiting to watch the service live there. And then we've got a crowd of people who are who are welcoming people as they arrive, welcoming the VIPs on presidential watch. Right now, I would say, waiting waiting for the three former presidents who are going to attend today and speak and the mood here is is really. I mean, it's it's serious, but it's also so joyful. It's about singing, and the stories that people have been telling me are just really powerful stories of how much Congressman Lewis meant to them. How much his message means to them in this time. And how much they want their Children and their grandchildren to make sure to remember him and what he stood for. What's really powerful, a swell about his home state of of his home state of Georgia and the city of Atlanta. Is that so many people felt like they knew him because they met him. You're hearing all of those stories from folks, I'm sure their interactions with him. Ebeneezer Baptist has so much history is I mentioned earlier, Martin looking Junior was a co pastor their share with us the significance of that church. Well, this was this was more Luther King Juniors from church. He grew up in it and was pastor as you said. It was also John Lewis's Home Church, where his wife's funeral was held in 2013. And it's really special. I think for these two figures overlap in this In this part of Atlanta to on Auburn Avenue, which is really the centre of Black Atlanta life, and some would argue the center of the Civil Rights movement and the two figures. I mean yesterday what was so powerful about Congressman Lewis lying in state in the Capitol in Georgia was that this was an honor denied to Dr King when he died. So I spoke to people who said I'm here because of all the people like Dr King who were denied that honor. And here we are giving Congressman Lewis most them may be the most honor. That we can right now. Sure, Let's listen to some of those folks that you spoke with you. It was amazing. It was amazing. All people on the young people. A lot of my friends has passed away. But I remember him from there. So that's why you mentioned This church being in the Hart. I just want to tell you that was Patricia Spicer, who's here, and she was talking about seeing Congressman Lewis speak at the 1963 march on Washington and that that's why his words were so powerful then and grabbed her then and she had to come today. The body of John Lewis was brought to Atlanta yesterday, and as you mentioned, it passed a number of important landmarks in the city. Walk us through. Some of those final landmarks that this journey to finally to Ebeneezer Baptist Church. There were there were quite a few stops because, as you said, Congressman Lewis has been such a presence in his district for, you know, 30 plus years. There was a pause at the Rainbow Crosswalk in Midtown, which you know, celebrates LGBT Q. The LGBTQ community here they passed by his downtown congressional office and a major street here that was renamed after him in the John Lewis Freedom Parkway on DH. It was there was also a big stop at a mural that you, Khun see driving down the interstate that runs through Atlanta. It has a picture of John Lewis and the words hero and, you know, it was really powerful. Tio. Watch him land for the last time in Atlanta and to watch him, you know, make his his final journey around the city. That's Emma hurt. She's a reporter with our member station. W. A. B in Atlanta. Thank you so much. Thank you. We're going to bring in another voice to our conversation. Remembering today the life and legacy of Congressman John Lewis Bishop Leah Daughtry is with us. Now. She's a political organizer and strategist. She ran. The Democratic National Convention is in 2008 in 2016 and she is the presiding prelate of the House of the Lord Churches. And there is perhaps no one better to talk about the intersection of faith in politics in this moment, which is what's so much of John Lewis's life really represents Bishop. Doctor. Thank you for being here. Good morning to you. And thank you very much from including this conversation. I guess I would just start by asking where your thoughts are this morning. Oh, you know, in the it's Ah, it's a powerful day. In the African American tradition. We call this the services home going And so they are mix of sorrow and sadness, but also great joy, particularly when it's someone like Mr Lewis, who has lived his life in such an exemplary way and in keeping with the principles of his faith that we know that he And our tradition. He's going home to be with the creator. And so we rejoice in bed and in the deeply held idea that we will see him again. So the mix of emotions on and I'm looking forward to the servants and being able to worship with those who have gathered To celebrate his life. The the word and his faith came before politics, did it. Not that was with what guided him first? Yes, yes, And I think that's so instructive for all of us who are people of faith. He was deeply guided by the principles of the face that he held so deeply and so closely and though that is what informed him and informed his action. Informed his decision to get involved in the civil rights movement on then to pursue a career in electoral politics. It's because of the ideals of of of our faith of our share faith that God intends for all of us. To live a full and abundant life. It holds us equally ah, in God's eyes and ah, divinely created and therefore in endowed with these Possibilities of being hole and equal. And then we have an obligation to pursue of society that sees us as God. And so for John Lewis that meant getting involved in the civil rights movement. That meant going on the bus boycotts being part of the leadership because it was he was pursuing the principal's off his face. And then in his later life, Of course, he came to Congress again, seeking ways to create a just society, a beloved community that treats all of its citizens equally. That has got had intended them to be he. It was almost a joke near the end of his life. How often he was asked to talk about preaching to chickens as a child on how readily he wanted to share that story, right? It was, he just he reveled in it of the idea of Off the joy he had as a very young man. I mean, eight years old, even sharing what he believed to be the most important important message there, Wass and and it helped him. Negotiate through through Washington. It helped him find ways to communicate with people with whom he disagreed. This's a very important part of his legacy is enough. It is it is, you know it and it tells you how deeply held his faith was. You know in these days, particularly when people are chasing followers, and ah likes and so forth on social Media network to think of this young man who who so loved his face. It was so impassioned by that any audience any Opportunity. He had to share his fate. Even with the chickens, Wass and was a chance to home his craft was a chance to get his ideas out was a chance. The tests, cadences and rhythms of words was a chance to share was the chickens and with those around the pick of the air, the grass the field how passionate he was about things that he believed and then bringing those ideals to Congress and understanding again. The people I help The idea of our faith that God has created a so equal And so if this idea that you don't have to be just like me to be just like me, there's something we have in common with each other. And if we can just talk if we can just be in conversation, we can see each other perhaps here because we may not still agree, but at least The tendency to demonize the unknown goes away lesson diminishes in the conversation. And who could refuse the conversation with Mr Lewis, who could refuse to just sit and talk and listen, and he was as good a listener. As he Waas a conversationalist. So you know, I think the Congress was richer for having him there on the Congress was Richard that his colleagues were Richard for just being able to be in conversation with someone who has deeply held ideal of deeply held conviction and experience. We should point out. Three former presidents are expected to get the memorial today. Bill Clinton. Barack Obama and and George W. Bush. I mean, just exemplifying the way that he he was very firm about what he believed and believed in his party, but he would work with Republicans if it meant Getting getting through the legislation he thought was most important. That's right. I mean, red and blue. These sorts of lines. These artificial divisions that we create among ourselves to categorize each other didn't really existed. Mr Lewis's lexicon. It was all about the humanity of people, and so has admit moving communities forward if admits Getting everybody the rights they deserve. Then he was willing to have the conversation. He was willing to be engaged and involved. And we see that in the folks that are going to speak today that are going to be present today at the tone and the tenor of the service, which he himself Designed. He spoke to his his closest staff. A. Stephen knew his time was shortening and said, who he wanted to be there. And what's the one of the elements of the club is to be what we see. Today is of Mr Lewis's own crafted bishop. Doctor, Can I ask one quick question if you were involved in the ceremony today, Realism putting you on the spot. But is there scripture that you think represents this moment, something you can point to that that carries the weight of history with it, but also Is about hope is about the future. You know, The thing that comes to mind for me is the passage and Hebrews. There's a chapter the faith chapter. We call it. Chapter 11 that talks about all the icons of our faith. Abraham and Sarah and getting and so forth on a long litany and in the middle of verse 13 says these all died in the faith, not having received the promises. But having seen them afar off, and for me that speaks of the hope. That was Mr Lewis's life. He stood on the shoulders of those who went before who didn't see freedom who didn't think the achievement of our civil rights. He followed them and he lived his life in such a way that he advanced the faith. He advance the causes, but he didn't see all of the achievement. And now we come behind him on continue his legacy. So he believed he held these convictions didn't scenes didn't see everything he fought for comes repair, But he still believed he still continue fighting. And henceforth Scripture goes on to say there was laid up for me A crown of righteousness was the Lord. That right? Justo shall give me on that day. And not to me only bought to all those who love disappearing. And so we look forward to seeing the two of us again in the future. Bishop Leah Daughtry. Thank you so much for sharing your reflections with us on this day. Thank you. Yes, very powerful. Let's go now to NPR. Congressional correspondent Kelsey Snell and NPR's senior editor and correspondent on the Washington desk. Ron Elving. Hey, guys. Kelsey. Good morning. We've heard so many powerful tributes from people throughout the country and the world. But But Louis is home state of Georgia. His presence and work had an especially profound. Meaning for his home state of Georgia for his district. Tell us a little bit more about his time there. You know, I am reminded of a couple of really, really standout moments of. I think one of the things that I think about a lot right now is the tribute that that they delivered for Johnny Isakson, who was a Republican senator. Of from Georgia, who retired last year, and in 2019 it was in November. So just just so a bit ago, Johnny Isakson was being was being honored and John Lewis Delivered this speech explaining how they could work together and and how there was an opportunity for anybody to find spaces where they agreed. And then, at the end of his speech, he walked across the Isaacson, who was in bad health and who had had trouble with his spine and said I will come to you brother and walked over and gave him a hug. That was really very much representative of the way. That John Lewis approached, you know, working on problems was what he wanted there to be bipartisanship. He wanted to be the person who came across, walked across and shake somebody's hand gave them a hug and said We can get something done here. He was also the kind of person who, whenever you saw him in the capital. There would be some person some tourist or a constituent who wanted to come and talk to him, and there was always had the time he had the time to tell his story had the time to talk to people about their story. He was extremely generous with his time and his constituents were known to come up to the capital and spent time directly with him. There was never a moment when it team like he was bigger than anybody else. Yeah, it's been Ah, so enriching and so fun over the last week to hear how so many people that I personally no have have met John Lewis, whether it's in Washington whether it's in Atlanta. New York Across the country. People have had a chance to meet him, but also have these intimate one on one conversations with him A CZ. We've learned he never turned anyone away. He was always willing to stop and have those conversations. One of the things that jumps out to me was a story about Congressman Lewis. When Hey, was in his district and he would spend a day doing a job in the district so even way back in the seventies, he would do things like drive a ups truck for a day to get a sense of what his constituents were up against. That is something that so many people feel is that he was of the people. Absolutely, and a lot of members of Congress that I speak to say they learned from that approach. They learned from John Lewis not just from the work that he did in civil rights, but the way he had a relationship with his constituents the way that he continued to speak about issues that meant something to him and then became active in them. I am reminded of the sit in on the House floor. On gun violence. He led House Democrats in a sit in and following. I believe the pulse shooting and they said that this was not a time when they could leave, and then he wanted to be the person who, you know who did the good trouble that he always talks about. He did not want to just be a person talking about it. He wanted to be a person involved in it. And you know so many members of Congress on Democrats and Republicans who felt inspired by that personal connection to his beliefs. The service eyes expected to begin shortly, and about 10 5 or 10 minutes. Ron, I'd love to go through with you what we can expect for today's service. But I want to talk first about Lewis's time as a civil rights activist, part of the movement back in the sixties. We expect to hear a lot about that today during the service, right? Yes, indeed, his life traced if you will, the trajectory of the African American experience over the last 70 80 years in American history. He was one of the group sometimes referred to as the Big Six, of course, beginning with Martin Luther King, whose name will be invoked. Many times today, but also Whitney Young of the National Urban League. Roy Wilkins of the CP. James Farmer of the Congress of regular Racial Equality and a Philip Randolph from the Pullman Porters Union. They were in many respects the Giants. Of the civil rights movement, as it took shape after World War two and rose in the fifties and sixties. Of course, John Lewis was there for most, all of it. He was part of the citizens at lunch counters in Nashville. He was one of the original 13 Freedom riders in 1961 integrating bus travel in the south. He was the youngest speaker on that day in 1963 when the march on Washington for jobs and justice featured Martin Luther King's I have a Dream speech. John Lewis spoke that day was the youngest speaker. He's the last person surviving from the speakers Dyas that day. And then, of course, the 1965 moment we have referenced Many times his beating on the Pettus Bridge. And, of course, his career in Congress, As Kelsey has described and then his links to the Black lives matter movement, which he paid tribute to In death as his cortege was coming to the capital earlier this week and paused on black lives matter Plaza in front of the White House to pay tribute to the movement and the people who are carrying forward his ideals today. Yes, And as we
Ghost of Tsushima: Creative Director Interview (with Spoilers)
"Have a very special guests with us this week that we're both very excited to talk with Jason. Connell from sucker punch. Thank you so much for joining US A. Awesome ear. Very happy to have you of course to go super in depth on Kgo Suma, so for those who are watching end jumping in. Be warned there will be some spoiler fil talking here if you haven't played through the game if you haven't. Checked out everything you want to in the game beforehand. Please do that first and then come back. There's a lot to dive into. We're going to be jumping into as much as we can. Of course if you want spoiler free impressions. We did record episode that a little earlier. Even can go check that out, but. There's so much that we can jump into this game I off. Jason I. Just want to say congratulations for recording this on the day. The game is starting to roll out on launch. Worldwide is already available in some territories as where speaking so congratulations to you on the team on that It's very exciting for to finally be out there as a fan of it and I'm sure it must be exciting for the team. Yes, it's a super exciting to have it out. There cited everybody host their photo mode favorites sin. Just enjoy the Games. I feel like an Brian I think this is true for both you and me. We could probably spend the next forty minutes talking exclusively about photo mode. Yeah, no I. Just get into that very quickly. What you've created, my favorite voted in video game history, but also. You might notice you. Create one of the most not-so-subtle advertising tools. That is perfect for this game. Because every time I seen pictures of it I WANNA? Play it again, and I think for a lot of people who were just sort of like on the outside, looking in a video games in general like people who aren't just totally head down on stuff all the time. They're like wait what that's! That's a video game. Where do I play I play it? They're going to get that so Yeah, that's a very very smart. If you guys it's absolutely stunning game. A cool. Photo of his crazy because we were one of the first, you know infamous second son was one of the first. At least I know of modern games that have put like a like a photo mode in in that game. It was just like this cool idea to show off all the cool particles and lighting. That game was a while known for. But it was wasn't crafted as a personality around. It was the cool photo mode, and then over time over the last few years. You have these games that out and Spiderman my favorite of version of this where they like adds the flavor of their game to its photos like tied to the personality of that gain. On, the building tops, doing like little cell fees and Doing it with a phone. That was awesome made it. You need to spiderman so when we were like. Hey, what are we gonNA do for voter mood? To? Whatever the ghost photo mode. One, it's gotta be way better than our first one because. Our, follow up one and two. It's gotta be semantically. You know connected to the game, so we're like. Well motion in Wind I. Haven't we like? Make it less about a static image. You can do that, too, but have be about moving frame that I think is so beautiful about our game kind of spun out from there. I didn't think it was odd that you give the main character, a Selfie, stick and the iphone. His drone that goes along with. Little you know little out of place, but I thought butyl. Oh God you know it's been incredible thing to play around with, and you can do what Brian said. Every time I see more of it. It's one of those things where I've been playing every night. Still in, it's like Oh, no, I need to go jump back in the middle of the day. Because like Oh. That's a great spot I never thought. I could take a photo of I've been a particularly obsessed with going to bamboo strike locations and trying to get all the great photos. I cannot have those spot often. You know like perfectly placed at an edge or something. I sort of wondering. Because obviously this was built more with like the photo mode in mind as you development went on, because it's become so much bigger, what was world creation influenced at all by the photo mode, or were there any aspects of designing this game that were influenced by it because it is more like prevately used feature these days I guess than back when second came out. You know. A little secret you know we. We always knew we'd have a photo modem. We knew that this ambitious version of like I. said a second ago better and more dramatically connected. Owning, really work on it until pretty late, so you know we were so. Dedicated to the stories in crafting the world, so when it came to the beauty of the world. That add add everything that's in the game. I would have to imagine that that had the most iterating over anything, because it's one of the first things you do before you have the whole story articulated and put into the game. Certainly don't have cut scenes. You know it's like you're laying out terrain and at that like how does the island look and then it gets into the direction the feeling Cutting, trees down growing trees, making procedural tools like the world is the by far the most iterative on thing now. There was a point where we're like. This is how we make our game. Look good clearings. Big giant swath of like in forests, you know that you can see for miles. Off using color as like landmarks again, the Golden Forest, or read flower fields, and then, and then a you know, certainly that sort of made its way into some of our features of a photo, but the the world designed stuff. took the lead on on end photo mode. Okay, now that we've created this amazing awesome place. How do we utilize the photo mode in like critical photo that will. Take advantage of how great our team at did at creating a beautiful world. I think one of my favorite things about this game is the sort of balanced that it's constantly striking Between being sort of completely serene, and then the music swells up and swords or out, and they're slashing against each other. How hard was it to sort of get that that tone down because I could see. You know I think in in lesser hands I could be a very kind of dangerous. Push and pull, but I feel like you totally nailed that and I think that that's like some people when they look at an open world game want like nonstop jam-packed activities in in your team made the decision to pull back and let things breath every now and then How did all that come together? Well you know for me. It's the first game that I was certainly a visual director on, and so I I would I you learn something about yourself with everything you create, and for me I personally learned that I don't have a natural tendency to like create incredible. Violence, I just wasn't that was uneven. Favor Games, bloodborne like as absolutely my favorite game. Guide. You're on this show. This is gonNA be worthwhile and. About it anytime. But no, seriously like. That's my favorite game, but. When we were crafting the world would I navigated towards with Joanna. Who's environment our leader? This did this amazing a blog post recently on playstation bar. was the beauty of it was taking taking a moment to breathe in, and then I realized that some of my favorite games that are not. Show the classes certainly embraced the idea of atmosphere in a sense of this and you know I donate Fox's is is resonates. Conversations resonated with him as well so then then the conversation shifted into. Okay well. We definitely have it. We have a summer game. So you know without saying anything else as you say Amer game, you know you're going to be hitting things with a four-foot razor blade so. You know violence is GonNa come so we certainly work on that stuff. allied and we wanted to be great and gritty, and the you know like you really WanNa feel like you have contact when you have contact but the other stuff doesn't come as natural, and you have to actually work on that stuff to balance it out, you really do, and so that means like the idea is about creating Haiku, which was actually named idea You know really. Or believe it was taking a moment to. Allow the beauty to take hold, and not what I think is cool about the ICU that I hope people enjoy about it is is that they're not tied till like progression like you're not. You're not like intrinsically forced to go, do it? You know there's a sense of you have to have the wonder and curiosity desire to do it. It's not like game telling you go do this to reach next level certainly, a lot of that is tied to corporation auto out to have to consider that, but it is. It is a work philosophy to try to get that balance of that contrast It takes years to get right for sure. I really enjoyed the Haiku sections actually He was like you said. It's sort of provided like this. This relaxing breeder and I did like the you were able to select different things who essentially collate them into one kind of fresh Haiku each time. Yeah I I mean I did every single side quests in every single objective in this game, but I I really enjoyed those wow awesome. The accuser, some of my favorite ones to the cinematography. You know it was at the moment to like. You know certainly we call them breathing. Moments definitely say that studio, but it was kind of a moment. Regis Art Geek out a little bit like the people who do the cameras. Mottaki, they can place it in to get the right motion and you know, and then the writers have an opportunity to like. Give you give you a couple of cool options. Just the beauty kinda comes through which is which in the end has been a very positive thing for the experience. Yeah, the balance that Brian was. Speaking to how you were sort of describing how that all came together? I could imagine. It's a very fine line between making sure it's peaceful and calm in certain areas, but. It's still engaging for the player because you could always run the risk of it. Being something that the player doesn't want to engage with, but as Brian. Saying like finding those high coups feels like this wonderful moment of solace after I have assassinated an entire Cam Mongols. And need to reflect on Jin's life, but also just the world I, it's this really great balanced that a I think as Brian was sort of saying you always get in games, but it feels so refreshing to hear. And it's a huge part of our philosophy. How we treat. Treat the game. Whether it's a Haiku great example, he could probably keep talking about, but you know the music style music how the music comes on not having things like combat while you're doing, shrine climbs or anywhere near them so that we can let those be their own experience, and so are these, are we? Everything wanted these features that are not mainline missions. Our conversation is like about how much combat how much non-combat and what is the purpose and what are the? What's the feeling for its existence like what what is the emotional goal for for these features and these are conversations? We have a lot and sometimes triple times over we try. We don't like it. We try something else. Well and for me, what's really interesting is sort of the place that all of these features and the things you go on, have sort of in the context of sucker punches past work, because it is I've been such a huge fan of both cooper franchise and infamous. Stir a year and. You know you get increasingly larger, but often more urban. City expenses that you're exploring a lot. In both of those franchises to certain extent here you're out in the wild. There are of course settlements and encampments and things like that, but there is a there's a lot of stretches where it can just be the world around you that you're exploring and I was sort of wondering on a world design level. How do you? How do you balance? Making all of these locations unique to explore as well and interesting. Even though you know a lot of can just be more, the environment's like what are the challenges that come with that? Yeah, so one of our. Our Contractors Jeff He. He talks a lot about content density, and what is the correct density and I really am really thankful that he brought that conversation up to light so much because It's such a you know Thinking about if you're currently doing something, you're going across the world and run into something. How much further would you have to ride your horse before you might find the next thing, or can you see the next thing from where you currently are? How how dense is it and I really enjoyed that conversation? Because it let us think about what's the right philosophy for for our game and it it certainly it allows us to you know if we want to in one place, you just completed something, and you should be able to generally speaking, look around and find one more thing on horizon or see the shrine trying on top of the mountain. It influence our world design alive, because when we first had the game built for the I you know I'd say maybe two years. It was a lot of forest. It was a ton of trees and it was cool, but you always were felt like you were in this like. Tunnel beautiful, but really deforestation. which does a couple things one is? It is very cool, but. It makes it really hard to know where you are without a compass or many map. Something telling you kind of giving you that extra information that your brain is just really needing. So what we did is we started opening up fields and I definitely some shadow, the classes photos out and was like fields as as reference vm. Because it just feels so epic when you're going through field, but but you know the criticism it could be that it's boring or something like that, and and really have to embrace a philosophy that it won't be boring because there's beautiful music. There's five things now that you can see what you want to do next because you're in a field, there's more clearings and it created a Great beauty in the game, but also more opportunity to engage with that density and I I. Really I think that that was one of the conversations that was ongoing throughout the project, but we landed in a really. I think unique spot for. When when when you? When your team was the helping this game, you obviously weren't anticipating a significant portion of the world's population to be stuck indoors for months on end, but At one I mean there were obviously there. Are you know a lot of sort of like entertainment? Things that have come out during quarantined. That didn't really. Fair as well due to their. SORT, of like the way they were delivered or their subject material something that, but this is a game that I really more than ever appreciated as a guy who's in a two bedroom apartment really appreciated huge open fields and. Mountains in like sprawling rivers and seas and stuff like that but I think one of my favorite things about the big open fields is that there's always something? Or there is like a lone tree. And you're just sort of naturally drawn towards it, and I found that like that sort of like beautiful use of negative space to be like so powerful. In terms of like never felt to me like there's nothing ahead of you. This is boring. It always felt to me like this. Is this is this is like a sort of triumphant use of minimalism and and charging towards something. To reveal that there's like one loan item in the distance was so much more engaging tomato like at a mini map that had a hundred time trials, but Hamas other stuff like I. Found Myself uncovering the dog on the entire map which. I was I was like basically riding around in spirals like in that movie alto like I was trying to. Five is in half the time I was on foot to. It was really wonderful game to explore so I. WanNa ask you about that the. The the sort of the way exploration on unfolds in this game is something I. Really Really Love and I think a lot of open world games are going to take note of following the wind and talking to people and following Fox's two locations rather than just you know overtly stating the player. This is where you're GonNa go, or you go to. The map in this big thing opens up. All that come together. What was the push and pull on that to sort of find the right way to keep players in the no, but without making like overwhelming them with information. Yeah I'll talk about kind of our studio kind of struggles, but I also kind of throw in my own, maybe personal philosophy, too. So I. I judge Games my favorite game, especially them really harshly by. How does it feel if you're? You're actually not doing anything on the sticks. I would if you're just sitting there. Just sitting in the world, you're standing in the world. You're on your horse in the world like is there. Is there a what's the feeling and some of my favorite games by just sitting there? There's like things that go through your mind. Like why do we? What are you anticipating? That are stuck on the story or like. Where's that next objective like you're just what's going through your mind? because. That's when you're not doing anything. That's what you're thinking of next like. You're just taking in the beauty looking around our game I hope that translates into that sense of exploration and sense of curiosity like if you do stop for a second yearly, you're not already on kind of a train of thought it is more. One of curiosity is one of like. Hey, what? What do I want to do next? Oh, there's something over there. There's something of their. Oh, I wonder band before, so they're having gone to could check it out and I. think that the more information you were to have on your screen compasses many maps. It kinda answers those questions before you even have time to ask the question. It's just like the dots right there. Let's go do the DOT. It doesn't matter what the DOT is. It's just there's thing let's go do it, and so that that to me is is a really important part of what I think. The Games, Tries to do in the world, and and certainly we did not have the wind when we started on this project at all. In fact, what the wind was which is has got this cool story I'll say quick is. on the first direction slides on the you know we did. A presentation is like one of the first presentation out the way look and feel and everything moves was was one of them like a wind. We're going to double triple quadruple down on win, and you know there's a lot of attack that has to go into that. He got Capes moving I gala hair moving. You gotta get trees and Bushes, and especially for procedurally generated now artistically procedurally generated world. That's really tough. Two years later. Something like that. That became true and you've standing I'm standing in this world and we had other elements we were helped. Augmenting are kind of navigation and get around the world and I'm just like holy crap. The wind is amazing. It actually works at that time. It always like went from East West or West. East or something I can't remember always just directional and it's just. It's really good. And then we started having conversations like how going to get more stuff off the screen to stay in the is like beautiful world more and more because it's just. It's really stunning even years ago. And a one point I had this idea like. The Wind. It sounds kind of crazy and Adrian is like our longtime worked on has been sucker punch. Long Time. They tried a little quick prototype with me. We had like fifteen people play at were removed all the you I just to hey. Can you just just try to follow it and just and it sounds crazy, but follow in if you can get to that hot spring or that on. And it worked like the first prototype fourteen out of the fifteen people were able to easily get there so cool. Yeah and I. I was like Oh. Yeah, we have to do this. Question. Like. This is something that is going to be unique to the game and then an analyzing. Say on them about the wind because I can do it all day, but is it had like the matic ties to the island in historical kind of. Poetic, Tian's to you know. The Mongols came in as typhoon sweeps them all out to see and. You know we name the sword the sky storm after that you know him being a storm, a metaphorical storm on the island for for the island, rooting for the island, and then it was like about nature, and then the animals came along, and I, you know it just felt like a bunch of like one of these critical pieces you don't know exists, and then you find it, and you're like that fifth straight there and does and then nearly. Oh, I, think we have a good. I can see the puzzle now so. Cool, it was cool journey. Having having that comes away. It all it feels so true to the world that the team has created in those moments. Because you know, I'm I'm a completion is player like if you give me a list of a thousand things to go collect if you give me, you know like an infamous. Charge to go collect I. Collect all of them, but there's something that I think does speak so much to this world and end you wanting to be invested in that. It is really by pulling everything. Out of the screen that you're looking at and just letting you look at the world you get more familiar with it, and you start to learn more about Oh. Yeah, I've taken that pass before. That leads to that pillar of honor or there's that cemetery over there as you start to. Trek across the land. It really gets you invest in the world in a way that I think just having a list or a neon sign to tell you where to go would. Deliver it in the same way. Yeah, that's great. That's so. That's the goal so I'm glad you had that experience. And I it's one of those things you know that the open world I think speaks so well to what the team really accomplish with this game, but one of the things I was curious about wasn't and I know. We talked about this a little bit, but released, but since we can. Talk to the island as whole, but what was the? I? Guess the poll the. The back and forth poll of wanting to make sure you stay true to the spirit of this real world location, and honor the history and the people that are but also create a world that at the end of the day would be fun to run around or write a horse around in as a game. Yeah and it's a great topic, and it's kind of been the the struggle for and I would say struggle in a creative sense. It's the creative. From from from once, we actually knew we were making Susha and we started doing all this research, and and you learn so much about the island. Like the fact that at that time it was likely to be like ninety five percent covered in dense forest. Which again I told you we tried. We tried very dense forest in. It's just hard to ride a fun horse through tree. Trees it's. Pretty tough. Also, it's incredibly hilly. We went there just like it's just hill after hill after mountain after Mount After Mountain, also challenging to create a interesting layouts in combat spaces in so. So, we worked with our team in Japan. We're like hey, this is how we were planning on You know being inspired by the shape of the islands. It looks very similar to the actual shape, but here's some kind of Ford as we'd like to take or game reasons you know, make the game more fun to to roam around. The landscapes in have layouts that have. Have Cool puzzle climbing challenges, or what have you were interesting missions, and and they were totally for it you know. And they gave us feedback of maybe when we went too far and then they also they know is in a fun way. They gave us feedback of win. Hey, you could go further with us, and so that was. It was a lot of ultimately. We're super inspired by history, and what happened and then the general beauty of greater. The greater nature of Japan as a whole, it's definitely hugely inspiring to us but we also make in a game and a PR and original story and a lot of things that. Have to Challenge it, but work in tandem with it, so it's it's definitely been a challenge I'm in a good way and we learn so much. And I will say the last thing I'll say on that. Is that within Joyon on the environment? Our team myself in the constitution. We talk a lot about like realism. And You know like A. Maybe painted realism, or maybe, how can we do it like a slightly stylized version of that? And and and you know this is not even if you've ever been to Seattle only did infamous. It wasn't really a stone by stone. Kind of recreation. Roads aren't lined up exactly. It's sort of like if you blur your eyes, you're like Oh. Yeah, that's definitely definitely Seattle like it rains. A lot of people drink coffee. PUNK ROCK and grunge music. It's You know the things that are there the spacing? Like the things you would expect, but it's not the like. Let's put a magnifying glass over, and let's get it like perfectly accurate and we take that same philosophy here. We want to feel like that. This is plausibly. Dass what it could feel like. That's what if we could do smell through it. That would we would try to. Feeling into music, we're going for a as a is a is a main heart. Smell will actually be unlocked on the playstation six. Thirty I. Have Rumor, we have an today since three. Hey listeners. We know you love gaming and have excellent taste, so we want to tell you about the official. The last of podcast in the show writer podcasters stand up comedian and huge fan of the. Host Christian Spicer we'll revisit the first game and talk with the people who created that critically acclaimed work hit. Also give you what you've all been waiting for. 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The the combat in this game is awesome, and that's coming from somebody who to be completely transparent. Wasn't crazy about it. At first 'cause my immediate reaction was. There's no lock on. Think what do you mean? There's no lock on like you can't. You can't have a certified again without lock on and as as I grew to. Appreciate. The sort of dynamic happenstance of a dashing between those four stances and. Fighting different types of enemies. In synchronicity while switching and switching back and forth using my sub moves and everything I was like. This is one of my favorite combat systems interview ever But what what? How did how did that decision? Come to not have have lock on? was that was at a debate internally in the studio? Because that's to me, that's one of those things that people just expect from a video game and I found myself not even thinking about it after a few hours in. I. It's definitely debate right like it's A. It was heavily debated and talked about how you know. From all corners of the CEO there was not some like. I mean because it's a it's a standard. There is a standard anytime. You go against the standard. You need to prove it out and. I'm glad we tried something different than you know. As person bloodborne like my favorite game, I like games that allow you to really kind of hone in and focus, and and control that since a control comes, comes with locking, but and you know, and certainly as a samurais sense of control is a huge fantasy so Yeah, man. We talked about it a ton Maybe when it comes to combat, I would say it's in the top three conversations that we had over the entire course of the project while. But I have to give massive. Shout out to you know. One of the studio heads. You know I've found Sucker Punch Christopher. Men he's he's behind the core design, a lot of the combat and he he works out of the code for it, and there's another Guy Ted. Who is awesome designer? And he liked those two brains man. They worked together, and they figured out a way to create something that is first of all feels like you're hitting the person when you do hit them like it's a tandem as animation, so it's not like a hit box based. It's like these. This animation links up to this one. Is I very newbie? Animation Brain. And it's not just like the slash through thing right, and so they feel like you're hitting the person it feels. A goal is a gritty feeling, but it's also incredibly fast paced at times. You know as you get like five or six people around you you can be, you could be like. Changes. In planning, and when you're going to do the smoke bomb, go around the building and do another. Jump down from the top, you know. It's just like a it. Almost like a the style of it is is better with how the walk on. That's kind of the thing that we found over time especially when she became pro at it. And locking on actually with slow down, maybe in some ways and a sense of control will be got out of it instead was things like standoffs in duels, obviously assassinating somebody having that jump on, somebody gives you that, too, but we decided to really push that those moments or mythic abilities I think are. Usually will help take out people pretty quickly. The mythic abilities are interesting because I I think i. I I'm really glad that this game never really went like supernatural despite having the Word Ghost, in the title. There's. There's other there's an alternate version of this game. Were you guys just want preserved and people are summoning dragons and stuff like that. I appreciate that a lot of the crazy stuff that you got away with felt grounded even like the fire sort is ridiculous, but there's like. Oh there's there's sort of like a scientific explanation. Yeah. And then when you start doing some really intense stuff that feels deliberately over the top like dude, get terrified and they starts crawling away like. Is Watching people just straight up running around. Disappear and stuff like that. It's crazy like this is a i. mean even when we pitches his game. This was another heavily debated. Topic is going to be fantasy based or not, and obviously nate and I felt really strongly as well as many other people that we should not make it fantasy base in like high fantasy base because. It really those first of all there's. Several of those games out there already, and they do a wonderful job and I love neo I love sector, Oh, these games are awesome and they lean on that a little bit more as their unique. You know and so. Good. It's smart of us not to do that, but the reason why we didn't do the reason we did was because we were definitely were focusing a little bit more on the Human Story certainly one of the world to feel plausibly real. And you know if you like, I'll take the example. You just threw out there like having people fall in there, but get scared. Scoot away, man if you could just like, pull out a fucking dragon every five minutes. Scares them like I feel like a real challenge to overcome like and so you have to be constrained. So that when we do pull out something that's really incredible or scary or something like that that it actually has wait to it, you know and. I one of the things I do love about our game in might be some of my favorite content, actually mythic missions because. They. A build up the idea that people were legends like they talk about people in their connection to the island. The lightning one is a great example where you know, they burn the black sand, the sands black, which always like wire, the sands black back answer black, and it just bill out as they build up this legend of people that may have come before you, which is Kinda cool because? because. You're kind of building your own legend. To maybe one day, people talk about mythic stories of the ghost You know that humans can do maybe slightly crazy incredible in your living, example of that and people tell tall tales. I think that's cool. I love win. Jin would go around to the stories and people would be like. There's ghosts in the woods and he's like. No, there's not. Watching watching the people run away after a battle, though my favorite things in the game because it's it teeters on like on on like. Comedy, you would find in like vintage Kung Fu movies where somebody would come and kick. A bunch of Bass and one guy would be like away. Runaway ended every single time was I would let him run like maybe like hundreds of feet pull out my arrow. Cruel Man I know you you put it there. You know you gotta sit there, don't. If you give Brian the high ground. He will let them run as far as he wants to. I what I do love going back to the mythic tells them. You know maybe people one day telling the story of the Ghost I. I'm always sort of a sucker for. Stories that are about storytelling to a certain extent, because I do think you get so much of the human nature that we all deal with on a day to day basis of why we tell stories and everything and I I love that that permeates so much of this game, and not just in the quest, but on the on the ques- structure as a whole in this game I think is really unique, but it works really well. Because as Brian was saying earlier, you can go to a house in. Someone's saying Oh. There are nearby. Please help me or someone one of my favorite stories early on one of the side missions I found was. A woman send you to get food from the bandit that stole it from her. And then you bring the food back and she's like. Oh, thanks! I finally have food down. You're like. Wait a second. That wasn't yours to begin with. I just killed all those guys because you can't, there's. There's this. Stark sadness to a lot of the stories that I think really works in this game and I was just curious on like a total storytelling. Horrible 'cause there are moments of levity. You know like everything with Kennedy I think is so great, but how do you you know balance? I think this is a land and a group of people who are under siege. They're under attack by the suppressive force. At the same time. They are living their lives. There's this humanity going on the island. Hugs, what are some of the struggles that come up and try to tell those stories? Yeah, well first of all. When you started telling me, which story were, I was like racking my brain like which? It was so many. I I know it's crazy and I'm gonNA. Play through a bunch probably that I've played through in a long time, I play retail, but. You know It's balanced because you don't want it to be this like we did not want our game to be this like heavy thing that was constantly hitting you over the head with a that was just not what we wanted for this particular game. Think anybody really goes from bad particularly. I think they're always in goal, but but in it's hard, though because invasion and you wanna see desperation, and you WanNa see like these people have struggles. And frankly you know we want to. You know it's not always like dude. Go kill things, and so you WanNa hear you know people having. Their kids, or this or that like our parents like I. Don't know you just want to hear something that sounds like these people are struggling a little bit. But you know the when it comes to the writing and those stories, most of the stories do most of them do exist to try and reflect at the world has been in invaded, invaded place and. For people that are like these allies, and you engage with those those will get a little bit more in depth than traveling of their story, and for these little small one off encounters. Just say look even even the hasn't class is affected greatly by this and hopefully feel a sense of remorse for them or sadness for them, maybe a sense of duty that why you're doing this stuff, but as for the tone of it. I genuinely like a somber tone in general, I think Sambre is is not dark. Sombre is not grotesque. Sambas is just like a like A. Light sadness to things and I felt like that light sadness in a world that is so incredibly. Beautiful is kind of a nice. Balance and I think we look at it now that way and to some extent. That's a really good way putting now that now that you say that. It makes perfect sense because. You have all these incredible like you know. There's Fox's in this you know. Like. Rainstorms the beautiful trees and yellow leaves, but then you go, do these side quests on. You're like Oh. Wow, that was. Your family died and you can save them and you're like damn. That hit me hard that one. Particularly, there was one side quest for like now I know, too. Hard that one's talents so hard and You know there that one people on on the team who? Created that one, and then like you know as we get through the Polish face like Alan, somebody went through and added a bunch of extra work to that one for animation, and like kneeling down, and you know I you know in from liking that mission to really like connecting with more, and this is a small thing right like this is not a. Two hour long you know big big mission. It's very straightforward and simple cement to just reflects the tone of the world, a little bit and Alan Dow was one of the ones that, even though it's a small moment in your entire through I think improved a lot of the last course of the project I'm glad it exists. That's awesome. Yeah, I I, don't even know if I necessarily have a question about it, but I'm just curious to hear more about the the construction of the the site quests when it comes to the side tails when it comes to those the supporting cast that you get because I do I do think one of my favorite things. Throughout sucker punches, history has been that there is of course he usually a pretty great main character, but also this really great supporting cast as well, and you know going back to sign infamous now with ghost. I loved finding out more about Yuna and lady Moscow and just everyone at the pace that you want to in the world. And that balance I guess my question is because I. do think that's some of my favorite story. Telling him the Games in the game comes from those lines. How do you balance having this stuff? Be Optional I guess if you if a player just wants to go through the main story, but also encouraged people to want to keep going back and revisit these stories in these characters. Yeah Yeah! It's a question you know we From I is long as I can remember. I think I, think earliest pitches of the game we talked about. How we really wanted to create sort of this. Anthology of short stories. know these little little side branches off the main trunk. You know that you could. You'RE GONNA. You'RE GONNA get invited to them on the main truck main story. You'RE GONNA. Get invited them and maybe even once or twice in an engaged with them, but it's up to you hopefully, engaging enough for that story relates to you. It's up to you to kind of go. Finish out the rest of that branch, and we do a lot of stuff like we try to reward you for doing these things but I find that those things are They're good and I'm super glad. Glad reward you in different ways for playing these, but I find that the beauty of those those allies missions. If you will Masako. Norio characters is that they're just they're. They're far more developed in terms of like there are like what they need out of the world in their stories are interesting, and and they all have a different perspective on you and life, and you know in an what I what I think is kind of cool about creating a world like this is that you have to be okay with having content that exists. You're not forced to play. And you have to embrace that you have to because that. That is what makes it joyful when you go on your own ambition to go through it. It's not that you were told to go. Do it was in the Golden Path? And there were versions of the game earlier that a lot of these characters stories were more interconnected to Go Path. Through play, testing and feedback in her own kind of iteration process. We ended up where they are. Which I think is the right spot. which is you introduce them and then? Over your curiosity, we can push them push. You can go enjoy them your own Yossi, and there. Some of them are five or six missions long. And I think that's the right model, but it takes some iteration to get to that that that's spot for us. Even having late in the game the I think it's two missions for Eureka that pop up after you've revisited home. Just was such a such a Gut Punch. In the midst of as Jin, story is starting to come, full circle meant to have this exploration both more into him, but also into her life It's it was like as you were saying I, it felt so much more rewarding because I, saw it out that story within the. Yeah I think that that's A. It's not an easy philosophy to hold you now. as a director or as a contributor designer artist, because it means that somebody is going to get a bunch of people, not GonNa, play your mission bench people are not going to see your artwork, and and it's really hard to like talk about that because I want everyone to who worked on this game at Sakkara Punch to just like the super proud of it and love every moment that they cred tributed, too, but that's one where it's like. Yeah, but your thing is optional, and I can really bad, but it. In these cases it is for the for a greater feeling that. The people that will engage with it will probably tear out will probably love or be maybe even their favor mission of the game, even not the golden path I gave might be their favorite moment in the game nest. Because you, you let them engage it at their own will in. That's A. that's a hard philosophy to to. kind of stomach, but I think it's I. think it's a really healthy one for the type of game that ghost is. It absolutely plays into who I I think. My favorite thing about the game. Is that Me In the act of playing the game, so has to the game halfway in a presents all of these options, but I have to go exploring too, and I feel encouraged and want to explore and of my favorite times playing have just been putting a dot on the map letting the wind guy. A thousand kilometers, and if I if something stops me, stop if it doesn't I just keep going until something else. Interest me awesome. It's a calming experience which I don't often say I think about games at the moment. That's exactly how I played, too I would just put a marker somewhere completely random very far from me and just go there and see what I ran into along the what along the way with stories popped up which new characters I would meet, that would show me points of interest and stuff like that. and I think that that loop was really smart in terms of having sort of random gangs of bad guys. Patrolling the land and you'd run into them, and they'd have somebody kidnapped, and you'd rescue that person and that person would tell you another place to go. It felt like you're constantly pulling on these little threads. and I loved that so much was did that did that all take awhile to come together? Like outside of the wind is sort of the way the. The optional stuff and the sort of like randomize character you know excursions and stuff all interconnect. How how was it bringing all that stuff together to create the flow that you guys ended up with? The I I you both sound like you've played it exactly the way that I would recommend somebody to play, which is like hey, you know every now and then just throw down and go that direction and see what you find, and and if you don't find some great than go to your Golden, Pastora that's awesome, but try it, and because it's. In this is true for even when we're doing play testing that we did find that that was some of the ways that people would enjoy the game the most which is awesome. will you're talking about that? Like the ecosystem imbalance of people who tell you where stuff is in? How many patrols are there that stuff I'll tell you? We tweak that probably. Maybe until weeks before gold I think. Exactly the number on no top ahead, but is very late. We tweak those numbers because. because the sense of owning the curiosity, and like not having everything told you. was so important to the global feeling of enjoying just like exploring throughout the world, and as soon as you're told, were too much. Stuff is or too many things around your map. It becomes a different problem like you're kind of you either you either go into. Let's just go through the checklist which. Is Fine I think if you found them on your own but can be exhausting for some people because they're like Oh God. There's a ton of stuff to do, or it's kind of a turn off because you already know what it is, and you don't think of anything else over there, but they're actually might be if you if you actually went look, so we actually ramped down the people that the amount of people that would tell you where things were quite a bit. It used to be far more. part of the emergent processes I've almost everybody who talked to tell you. Something is, and it would put a thing on your map and We found that to be Super Smart System, and I'm so glad that we have it, but we put it in a very specific way in a very specific amount of things on the map total. Total that it would ever tell you about so that you still had your cool moment of like i. don't see anything over here on this. I'm going to head that way and finds things along the way now balance. It's really it's really tricky. Because again it goes up to that thing. I was talking about early. Enough loss of being okay with things being skipped and. That if you don't want to be so much that you don't have any information, that would be bad too right so it it is takes time to to work out, but the team did that. No, no a healthy fund way but I think even when you like clear. Mongol, Camp and Clears up a little bit. You still get a question mark. It's not even like yours, a hotel or something like that. And it's sort of it to me. It fell It felt like A. SORT, of natural to the universe that you guys were setting your game in this is this is like a long time ago. There is those no yelp. There's no google. So it seemed natural that you'd find a random person on the street and be like Oh. Thank you so much. There's this awesome restaurants. You should go check it out. Right I really doug. That I played a ton of the game in Kerr. Asala Mode Oh cool and that was. It was really it was really difficult for me. 'cause you made such beautiful game central? And I think it's I think it's. Beautiful in a different way in Curacao mode. But there was just something so special about about like heading into conflict or a story be or coming into a new environment. or it's all black and white, and there's that film green crackling, and a I read that you guys even did some stuff with the music to make it feel almost like it was coming through old speakers or something like that. Yeah, how how how how did how did you develop that? I I know. That's like obviously. It's something that you're studios. Really proud of especially since you've got endorsement from the family. It was a that was A. That was a I. I probably will put that in my top list of my entire career as like being apart process because. I mean it's just. It's just why just kind of a wild thing that you don't go into making video games because you expect to go through that process one day, yeah. which is probably why it's cool is that it's different. You know, but. The. We knew that we WANNA. Do Black and white mode I mean I think i. I don't remember when we first talked about it, but it was definitely really early Redo black and white vote, but again it got kind of pushed towards the end of the project, and then once things started to. You know you can sit in the world and you could be like. Oh, my goddess stunning! It's really a beautiful I feel I. Do feel like I'm. There's moments of this I feel like movie. It's coming. It's coming together. And, then we're like okay well. We definitely have that mode. Let's are planning for it. And an I got version of it in that was a very early version of it with a sliding team and Like what do we call this thing? and You Owe Samurai cinema or classic. Why can Wyatt our traditional La just things? You know cool cool names. And member WHO's I may was Brian Studio head. I don't remember somebody was like. When we see if we can call it, Chris Allen Mode. And I thought that was brilliant and I was like. Yes, can we? What was that process so I reached out to. One of the people that I think he deserves a special shout at his name as a relay Katami. He's on our Japanese producer. He's a helped us since the very almost since the very beginning, and he helps coordinate all of our feedback through Japan, and said Hey, you hey, who's now a dear friend of mine. I was like. Is this possible. Could you look this up? And he and the Japanese team reached out to their to their state across our state and worked out You know. They wanted to see video so I. Put together a video, and then I redid it like three times because enough. People on time video, but I was like Austin. Even Brian Our leauge rendering Guy Jasmine. He was not good. No. Though I kinda Redid it a couple of times and then eventually Is this. Is it I? I looked at so many movies measured the black and white. You know in our game. You know as you both played it. Daytime Times. There's indoor's whether there's rain. There's fog and so like you have to look at movies that have all of these things you can't just be like. Here's a movie. Here's a sample. It's the black. Man Like you gotTa. Look at all these because they exist in our game and it's a filter that'd be going over all of these and so I finally got to the point where I was, I had good black levels. White levels has cool noise. We sent them a video and and It took a little bit of time back and forth, but eventually we're like asses cooling reach an agreement. They were cool with it so. Yeah it was a it was a coup processing showed up. Is Mode teams all shit? It's called. Is it was pretty cool goal process. It has a dream come true. It's so awesome on a historical level. Because obviously you're seeing the game through its you know from the reveal trailer to now there's clearly a love and Joe Majd to the cinema and the storytelling that come in the John Mara, before it, and so to have that encapsulated as a mood that you can jump into starting to such a great I. Think like touchtone full circle thing as a fan of genres well. Also I mean the. The audio! From from like A. A gigantic Blue Tang Fan. It's it sounded like like RISI's sampling. VHS, tapes of sword slashes, and like there were moments. Paint that game and I was like I expect like method man rapid right now because. If anyone was intended, but that sort of got me on a very very like neural level I was like Oh my God like this is. This is quietly the best. Wu Tang game ever made since. The fighting gave. The quote somewhere I feel. That's. But. Our audio director Brad he that's all him he was like. I have an idea that guy's a wizard, so that usually meant something cool and he. It was like we have this special thing that we developed internally at Sony that replicates old processes from like you know fifty sixty s something like that radios and TV's and and And and he he kind of took that filtered it and figured out the right 'cause he was like. If you do too much over, you know, we wanted people to play lengthy amount of times and if they wanted to the Chrysanthemum. View too much, and it becomes incredibly fatiguing. Like, not watching move hours possibly thirty hours. You know so. You got a nice balance between that and something that you can you know Listen to over and over again? I- legitimated Curacao Mode for Poly Twenty five thirty hours and I think that I like maybe fifty sixty into the game. So how yeah! That's incredible. Yeah, along along with that and to me. It was surreal to play an open world game almost entirely in black and white. That was just I've never done anything like that before and. It was such a cool. It was such a cool experience. One of the challenges with eggs I would add is like since it's black and white. There's there's missions that use color as guiding, and so there are. There are a few missions of. It really struggles with, but for the most part we redesigned icons on the map so that it would work with answer, so you're not just looking at two icons ones. This color ones that color and we just changed the icon Lopate, but but yeah it, it's it's generally speaking. You can play through most of the game with it, which is just crazy. Yeah I think there was one mission where they're like find. The purple flowers was like Oh! I was to right back on, so that was good. Leads to so many great visual moments, and as you were saying I know we're running short on time I. don't want believe the too much, but I, genuinely really loved, and as pointing to earlier the the soundtrack and the way both game uses it. It comes in from quiet to loud, but also how the score changes both from the combat setting to the open world setting you know. Moments I would say not settings, but. That Jackson position as well as even on the side, the remixes that were coming out sort of in the lead up to the Games launch. There's so much great musicality and artistry. Bear that I think really. Elevate, so much of what's going on there on visual rebel to a works so well in tandem. You know there is no single discipline that contributes more to the game. The music like a known this case we have to composers, a team of people that obviously help implemented like their artistry is like. White just level things up so much like a scene without music in a scene with music. There's a world of difference in generally speaking I know it's not one contributor. There's quite a few people that make it happen. Processing and implementation, but it's insane. What music can do in for this game? It's it's. It's one of the best parts of the Game I. Think is the the the artistry behind the music in the soulful fullness in is is really I listened to it a lot. I love and then we tokens the glitch mob. Which is just? RIDICULOUSLY COOL! Yeah, it's an awesome combination i. do think as you were saying. It elevates so many great moments, but really. A drills home like the emotional undercurrent of everything that's going on in the game. Unfortunately. We're pretty much out of time. I think Brandon I could keep talking there so much. We love and really enjoyed about the experience and are continuing to enjoy. Time in this world, so Jason Thank you so much for taking time. We really appreciate it. SUPERFUND and thank thank you to your studio for. bookending this entire console generation with my favorite games. I I don't know if that was ever the plan, but the way that
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They take I'm allowing the DIXIE. Chicks in there anyway. Now they're all nice in here. I. Came King Rob's been in touch on what's comedy? So that'll be twitch dot TV slash Watson. Watson comedy and then. which was set out for the previous show, it was daring. Occasions. I think there'll be some people posting of negative stuff and probably sixty hours. I was without very well. The thing is like there's lots people talk there. There's some things I. Do you bother to look at the comments? Actually? It's like the twitter. It's lovely the moment. Positron I'm Dick brought from that. Everyone else is okay, but you actually don't wait. When it's something about this. There isn't even icon is love your commenting and I'm sure you're having time. There isn't even really time for me to look at the comments. The only thing I can look at it. I play football manager Kevin Toms nine thousand nine hundred version. The yeah and I can see because there's time to look at the comments. They're but anyone who's watching that his by definition a wonderful person, so it's going. But it does most of the people that were state with. Our show people. Are Quite Sydney. MEKA is otherwise why would during, but you know it's not comedians thing again, and that's a coming thing. You have to overcome, and you see again and again on facebook if you're following comedians. They'll have hundred people attending their great, and they'll have one person tournament terrible, and I understand it because I've been there as well, but you will home in on the one person telling you terrible, you initially will you know? If. If everyone, put you a great, you would be that good, but also. You know it doesn't matter what the things I think I've really got to the stage now. Where like the other day someone else tweet? It didn't even at me in I searched myself not as a vantage thing, the reality thing and they said. Rich tearing must be very nice because he's definitely not funny. And so I tweeted them back like six minutes after they tweeted and said no May. Account And I thought I..
"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"It's slow, proper slide as The forty show I did a joke about feeling you reached top hill, and then it's a slide down to, but but I think it's. Actually get. I, think as a man and this slightly a personal thing, really get about thirty five and you you probably the top of the hill. The hills like a table mountain is pretty flat and then. Yeah then down and then it's down. I mean there's lots recommending. The my life is a bit different 'cause. I've done everything so late. So having kids his both good and bad, but it's it gives me something to push on Woodson carry. Good light see them grow up a little bit. Career was wouldn't say you appear to slow down the past two years. Have you felt since a different? I think for me sort of again at forty I kind of hit a weirdly started poke casting the same month as I started dating my wife. And so. So you're going to work out along. The relationship is work. Casting and then. Look at. Curious when you? So, I think the podcast. The pig made a massive difference. I think if I hadn't started podcasting. Somebody else might have happened, but it's not a difficult period in i. mean you know you know this as well because your your career is? Give Your Voice Been Very. Prestigious in great lots of things, but there was a definitely a period almost the same time. It's for me. I think around two thousand and ten. I felt a go. ooh things. Things, picking up, this is going to be okay, and then you know, and then tastes change and your in and out favorable bitten. It's up and down a bit. And then I think when you get forty as A. Less a man, but also as a man. Then it can be like. Oh, well, we're looking at the. We're looking at the twenty and thirty year olds, and what they today so I think for me just to decide again I. Think with you. It's not a problem because you've always been very self motivated and. Created your own stuff and we'll talk about it. I know you've got some stuff coming up. But but yeah, I think it's I think it was I. think it. I think to be able to take control of everything. I was doing and just go fuck it. I can't be bothered with waiting around for people to come to me. and then they did come to me a bit, but also I also knew that I could carry on. that. Made a massive difference, but I don't have to do my age. Think that's just. The way the dice. Chips fell Famille Male, whatever seems the change swell just in comedy. Doing your own thing became. Much more of a thing I suppose in the asking. Inch is interesting, though because obviously the people who are ahead of you in the in life spa and thing I would be happy with where you are. Reckon fifty I think most people should be and that's, but I also think as you get older. You just have more. You. You have a more reasonable way of looking at what you should be attaining, so you went to five I, wanted to a Michael. Palin or mail or whatever and then I wanted to be yet. That level and I'm so glad it was never going to happen, but I'm so glad. It didn't happen as well, but I think as you get older just think Christ. You know if I could be Michael Palin in terms of working on my or something like Barry Cryer. And Tim. Brooke Taylor would just like those guys who just constantly had stuff to do and we're creative. Interesting. That's actually much more of a success than. That that pinnacle. Somebody will get the pinnacle and stay up there, but not very many and a lot of, and it's very difficult to cope and I never. I personally never had that massive. Here's your massive thing. You're a huge star I was always like. This is nearly happened. Isn't happening hasn't happened as I'm. Still but work for two years pretty constantly, so yeah, I'm very happy no! Yes interesting I think probably. As you say, I had paired by a row. Just just run just thirty right though I. It wasn't even though I was a bank to become an enormous style. It was more I felt that was why order to be aspiring to because. Of My contemporaries like Russia, Hodge McIntyre. I suppose Jason Manford. In. The bull disposable took them became mole famous. That's me. I'm Rachel and But if I look at the careers of those people I like those guys is not about Isn't it disrespectful but? Like even if I could have done what McIntyre has done of wouldn't. There's no would which could be the Mr Saturday night. No and It It's that you you do tend to take your ambitions against what? Similar people who've done. Is taken me years to stop comparing myself to people like Russell who are on a completely different Shatri radio! As you say it's also can be very restrictive into in terms of what you're allowed to do. So what I did have a moustache. Hit the comes up again. I'm not obsessed with them. But. If I, if I've been more successful, and we came at a time when I suddenly was getting amateurs again not to go penalty with. But, if I've been more successful, someone on Oh, no May Don't do that because you know your. Whenever we got the Saturday night TV or whatever to think about an audience and so creatively speaking. It's great just to be able to do whatever you want to do, but it's it's. It's I think it's being out. Carry on. and. If you're creative. Lots of COMEDIANS are create if unlocks community crave, and then go into position with the less creative and lots comedians. Then decided what rather I'd rather be. Create creating stuff the necessarily. I think there's no opportunities now. When in the nineties, when I was on TV, you could be on TV doing your comedy. And now the chances of doing that are minimal Sitcom where you're going to do a panel show and there's no opportunity to do. So so you stand, I can't stand up on anything. I'm more than a little. Here's your little segment. So. People are Russell Howard all raw bows. Most of the time. During dead stuff on TV, the still doing it in. 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"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"Is he's five nine. I recommend by two in every three days of this pandemic, coastal or this. To this house, if anything more creativity stimulates it, because we will wanna find solutions and then one every three days, you think. This is all for the actually. Start off is a good one, but then with all due respect to the kids wants to. Creighton it'd be. She might thing his. The Alan. But she's on the road so. Of course the situation to you, but my thing is to take them for parts of everyday. Yeah Typically out very early so that I can. Make the most of the Bay of Diet. where it's fine, an amended bit where they're with me through. No Fault of the Israeli is not psomas fine as wine very not plus warning hair. Well I wished I'd broken up for my wife. Because then, unfortunately, if anything, the pandemic brings close to give them the everywhere. But it would be nice to just have half a day where you just don't have to do anything with the kids tool and then have to do with the kids I would settle for. That is just like the the middle ground. No help from anyone. My mother in mother-in-law would usually come round for a day a week and give us a restaurant. She's not allowed round round, so it's. And the thing to do justice you. You didn't know that it was a good idea to break up with your wife because. Everyone didn't know they'll pandemic was coming. Did you know what I would have done just broken up with? At. The start depends. Advocating got back together with the end of the pandemic. That would have been perfect for me because I. Love Her and everything and I want to be with her mean. She feels the same, but I would like to have more time to myself. We, Miss, normal life relationship. May Be so. But who knows I'm? I'm kind of I am sort of enjoy i. live in the countryside. I'm kind of enjoying it. Negatively death monster on my kids. I'm enjoying that I. Hit you up for its idyllic. I can play a stone from field. The beams. came. House. That is a venerable attic. That's the that's been lifting for what it is. Seventeen hundred. It was originally built in. It's an old house. I? Wish we'd gone for a bigger garden day. We went for a house robin the garden. There is still a garden so I'm not complaining, but it's not. It would be good if it was far enough to send the kids running down right to the end of it and again. God Christ and you probably didn't think well. What would be the situation we might crave is started. Space was for example enormous, global, pandemic down once more we can expect. Looking. So. We've got a garden. Same Problem I. I would have prioritized it much more if I take, it would seem impossible live. So. Let's. Let's let's we'll. We'll come back to I'm sure we'll come back to the pandemic. It's very hard to leave the though I of compensation is. The people listening to this podcast will be a couple of months into the future, so it's kind of our people that stage. The people want to watch us live, so we were playing to two audiences, one of which is Riley going. The poor food. They had no idea what was to come and I usually do this podcast and every time I do it. Then at the time go, you said ironic thing, and it's doubly ironic because it's twenty times as bad. So hopefully, something else will have gone wrong. But. Will still be people in say July yeah. Hope, there's something it's not giving them. Hope for their some. Luckily, my fan base is is very young. Healthy fits people. Meet you good thing about big midler. Condemning Roy pandemic. Last week I got bit scared badly subway and get fit. 'cause. It's hitting men the fifty to a little bit over weight and then this weekend. Rather. Difficult to be motivated. About your health, This gone on is it is difficult, but we're going to be okay, so look. Let's not dwell on the bloody pandemic does we can do? Anything we want to talk and we will do. I want to talk about also think that's talk about being. The engineer lifted. Didn't talk about that to you last time you're on I. think that's you want to go to. Acting Roles IMDB. Is it yours different watson? You're the voice of engineering an in the lift. This is even for you this niche. Yeah! So I wrote something in just seven was just called the list who settled by? Two thousand seven hundred thirteen years ago I know was crazy. Right, PERFETTI YEARS To the day? Should big, isn't it? I that one this birthday. Start somewhere. So. The BBC four thing a one off. Drama about full people left Douglas Hodgson if you know. was very good. And there was a bit by. The be commentary. What something like the lift fixed? An engineer says something like right, just stay patient, I get you out of there and ten minutes, and having written the thing that was that long was given to me. I think because I was actually there when they recruiting. Valuable to okay, but I didn't know that was among my. To go to acting credits. I'm surprised to acting credits but you. Can Look. Nine. Is Not Been Estrella in career. From you'll know? Megyn a people who basically won't be actors out of these stealth way of becoming an actor. With me, so they've got loads of acting credits may a never had the slightest idea. I'm not doing this as a gateway, this is will. Well. That's good. Pure comedy is what it's about. I would love to do some acting, but actually have just been in a short film called the lockdown in which is about being locked down and talk camera to play. A man is similar to as though he was a single man. Someone complained that he was wearing a wedding ring because I was wearing my wedding ring, but I then replied to them. That I'm fifty two years old. Come on I've been married before maybe more wife died, and I haven't taken the ring them still single short mean I was. I was wearing my registering for two or three years after marriage ended, because couldn't in all fantasy. Get it off my finger. If you are reading too long enough over time it. Stands or your finger trips were ever and the thing was like it to clamp and of course. It was. Two more imaginative person perfectly possible to see as sort of metaphor, yes. Because I couldn't get eventually to go to jewelers and say When you cut the ring off my. And, if I thought, it'd be really demeaning requests, but the guy just so rolled. His eyes is if he had about ten of these day not. Finish the sentence, he clocked me as a divorcee and started to get the custody ready. Is Surprising I feel like? I've never been to Julie's until and better. Even though you think would you loses a place where you were magically by to your loved ones. Yeah, it was a good solid hustle. A place where you can cut off someone who's made. Idioms the. That's the thing so because it represents the eternity of loved the circle back. Some of your soul than that goes out windows and prop assault cut out. But you're right. The whole point of ring is. Yeah as an analogy for the eternity of love under God's and by extension, the Kingdom of Heaven and stuff like that. and. If you not with your wife is a bit tricky to swallow. The five star accidentally subverted that symbolism, but that was the situation. Yeah! Rachel the guy cut you off with minimal. While I look forward to that moment in my my own. I think I'm going to get through I'm going to get through my life I mean it's sort of not fair. Because I got my very lights. This is the thing I got my early. I actually know a disrespect to my experts tool, but I think both of us probably didn't quite. whereas. You married what they saw. The forty was I was well into. My eight years I was. Forty, five or someone on that forty, four, forty five. I think yeah, because obviously I always have a reasonable handle on. How old you because every ten? Fifty, you're about two or three years north of fifty three this year. Yeah, and you're. You're fourth unity forty. Your your halt. We'll see I've turned forty in separate rights. Okay Sam is with because. That is so recent and yet is February middle of February. Two months in one week ago and the. Situation in China was in the news, so it wasn't very ignorant of it, but nonetheless I, the party people so of Congress in a basement, many of them hugged each other and I remember the general vibe of like. I've heard about Chinese thing by Soom waistline and Just because the timing of it..
"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"Question someone just made me move this. which was they? I was disgusting to retreat row. Would you have the data? Man Who is a six foot tall penis? I'm sorry, actual base or a man who instead of having a penis as a tiny magnet. This is something that you. I can see from the reaction that salmon. Sorry manage the six zero penis is go to face on. His balance is otherwise just a massive penis. possibly. Ball's our fate. Yeah, yes, shells but. Now, the other one the other one, you'd have their tiny. Any reasoning for that. Is just such an absolutely grotesque thing to. And I suppose the reason why you persist with that question is because you visualize it. Can you knock on my WTI Richard subsequently disgusting? So I'm trying bit why. Save same eyes are open I can get more than if is a closed, but only still only the ghostly. I'm trying to think of the. There was an M. pay cuts. And I can't remember who it was and here talking about you. Who is the person who made me think that question? Who just just like? US He, did I mind lights? I I'm thinking of something very very detailed disgusting an and I just can't. Disgusting about the human. Penis is beautiful. Thing the six foot so version with. Would be wonderful, okay? Have you ever seen a ghost Mike Spicer? Things that all the Great Jerry, questions I was typing, I'd be asked and. At..
"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"The the actual focus on the writing and rewriting decent stuff. Yeah, really changed of the children. and. You know so just to qualify that the. Yes, I, absolutely nothing at. Do anything for them yes. Yeah Be But. If you could be in a sliding door situations where one reality you have, kids lumbered activity. You don't and you can switch between the two. That'd be the best one. I that is the ideal scenario. With John Hannah occasionally. But what if you had a sliding door situation and you went to the other reality and you had four kids of the nothing. Gets. You calf what you wish for, you might not get. There's an infinite infinite Malvo Ten universe is out there, and you might get one way is. I'm one of five children annoying, yeah! It was. It was pretty tough. YELP. Well I kind of I just can't. Imagine how my parents had. Three kids are Kinda mentioned the with that. I can't imagine anyone who's a single parent copes with the. Certainly locked down, but like if they've got two or three kids, yes. It's absolutely. Unbelievable the way that talking if you haven't not family of these people family. All you ever mistaken for Michael Spicer. The Norwich based architect. Now now. Are you ever mistake of Mike Spicer, the Tory grandee who died in two thousand nineteen. Yeah, some mistaken for him. and. What's what's very spooky about? That is that he died? And then exactly one month later I did my first next door nice? Universe connection Lee deal with one final personal. Maybe. Do you think your? Some in some way. Rate He. Made inside you and he created the room still no, because because in many because in many ways he's. Way Opponent opposite Michael Spots, he founded the ER G.. He sets up the whole path to you, KIP and and and Modern bigotry as we now. And I'm on the other side. They're not changing political landscape patrol, but making very funny. Yeah, so he would know what was going on. Maybe came back. So you know what really was going on Michael? was those people in the next room telling him all about speeches? Maybe did it. Have you seen that there is a main you have created a domino of Hitler. Finding out that you Michael Spices the parodies and he's saying that guy the guy you might that sent that to me. Yeah, so I said well. That's nice. Thank you very much. But I was a bit befuddled. Because I feel we don't do those anymore debating. That was one of my thoughts of every. Is Sort of like a bit light, but then all my so late that it's good. Again I thought. Maybe he was trying to bring it back. I don't know. Remember I mean. We. Do that we'd like. Have you been astounded old means that. You won the shortlands net award this year. Yeah, you told me that, yeah! That's right. I'm sorry. I broke it into it and I. Thought you would know I've won I've won. I've won five those. Terrific have yet. She got the awards. Did they say? Yeah? I'm going on a show you. What they? Remembered Here. As Yeah. Yeah! They are. Looking towards I've got. It's amazing. Now. because. There was no awards. Only this year was the now. All I'm. So That's twenty eleven. Nice Guy? That was as case to me. That's twenty twelve. That's just the rich. Richer tearing Internet world thinks. That right okay. I've I've got five Internet Woods. I I'm quite annoyed. Anyone else's wasn't what I think. The first I won the first five twenty thirteen. One my daughter, not that a table. Yeah, I Laura I suggest that if you have five gloss awards as One of Twenty eight and that was for a spiritual now in. And then fourteen and Eighteen I had a little time off, and then they've changed them to that. A now. Yeah. Well I've got I've got one of those. Officially there's nothing but actually. There's nothing physical that suggests that decision. A, shame, shame, but. They were when I die. Which might be saying? I have no quoted the Richard herring intimate awards, because yeah I should because I've got five of the mission record that I should. They shouldn't have to shouldn't have to die. But well, Donald winning now was very. It was a very strong field. Thought which one. When I want them to be honest, it wasn't. Can you name anyone who Comment I think probably people because there's all the people who started early by which is not many people. Maybe, you probably on me the. Goldsmith probably peacock and gamble. Whoever was doing the? Ambler Wreckage of I I think a couple of people throw 'em surprised by Saint Cougar. But it wasn't I i. kind of wanted everyone to win and I didn't think you would win. Because it is voted for by the public and James Castro Net gambler up so I thought Oh. They're going to win. I love that show. I've just been on the show. They're very rude young men. But, I still love the show and I just assumed that their fans would. Block vote yeah, so I do the right thing and inside the comedian. That's a husband and wife competing against each other, so in a way I think you waiting. Was the my speech fulfillment. Yeah, I'm glad to One radio show one. Yeah, it's nice to say no isn't an award ceremony and stuff to go no as a stress this all an award. Fine or maybe you'll send one through. You might be reviewing tonight show. Maybe, it's time for them to send. Them very good. Let's do a couple more mercy questions. We might go back old school just for I've got most talked about I. think that let's. Let's Let's.
"spicer" Discussed on Richard Herring's Leicester Square Theatre Podcast
"The welcome go to another remote Rohullah Sta this week. We have the one Michael Spicer who you may have seen in the Internet sensation, the room next door, absolutely brilliant guy and I've acted with him sometimes, and I've known for a long time, and he's a very funny man, and this is a lovely interview which we did remotely using the Internet this is. Is the way it will be a little while now. We've got lots more to come. We're recording these on Wednesday nights at eight PM. You can watch them for free. That's right. You heard me by going to twitch dot TV slash K herring, so come along. There's lots of other stuff on that channel including snooka Stone Clearing Kazin pay games on Sunday nights. We watch films and commentate on them in an amusing Mana, so come along and join in with that. If you can, too, you can subscribe there as well. You can pay money if you want, but you can also subscribe without spending any money if you're an Amazon prime member and we still get money from Ian Amazon, so have a look at if you fancy it also. Also you become a monthly badger. This is one of the things you get this wonderful. Little Plastic Wallet, saying I'm one of the cool kids. You get a membership card. You get two badges. This is the gold version you have to pay five pounds a month for the gold version ten pounds a month for the platinum version, but three a month will get you everything. Everything except the different colored badges and you get interviews, you get into a prize. Draw you get backstage surprises. You get emails telling you. The guests going to be head of other people, the non bad scum and all the money goes just gets fed back into making more podcasts, so it's a win. Win Situation. If enjoyed, these output would like to give something back, please. Please feel free to do that. Just by listening to the cost with the adverts, you are making contributions. Thank you for that and if you can't afford to pay anything and do not feel guilty about not paying the rich pay and let the poor listen for free. That is my creed. That is my motto, my fine friend. That is how the whole world should be. But. It is how my world is. Always remain free so that everyone. Can Listen, but most people choose not to in any case. Load of fucking idiots anyway let sit back. Relax and enjoy royal power. We've Michael Spicer my fine fine friends. Hello welcome back to my left. Love to see you all hair for coming along welcome to Richard Herrings Lonely, self-isolating twice podcast. That's me. Those hanging around in Joe Wicks lounge the other day. Just hide in just one side of the five play simple. You meant to be self isolating I. Said Kaoh Shop. He said he calls. It relates party why? Not Doing what is me? I've got three hundred thirteen view at this exact second. How many is Joe Wicks in the morning, not that many. That's what I'm thinking. So What's been going on It's sort of the reality with the people. Listen to the puck cost in the future of June, if there are any humans than alive, then wear This is April fifteenth of April this is being recorded is with three weeks on a bit in lockdown is starting to fail. Real is starting to feel like We might old Guy Matt and there's no end in sight I feel like we. It sort of feels like being under house arrest and my theory is however long imprisoning our homes during this lockdown, the government as a reward should allow us to commit one crime equivalent to that jail term and get no punishment because we've already served time. He's with me on that we. Can Get for three weeks. I think maybe you can punch someone. Of his first defense obit shoplifting. Probably that'd be fine so. But you have to do it before the lockdown and to make interesting. It's up to you when you cash your time in, but if you leave it until the lockdown is announced, you get nothing, so you've got to try and cash in before the lockdown hence. Could go for three weeks, but what if you could have got six weeks? Imagine what you could probably wave, Julia someone for free and not going to any trouble if you'd wait six weeks, so. The cat for that But only if you've got the Bulls and ovaries to stick it out that long. And you must commit the crime after you've press Joel Busters all that. You can't do the crime and then the punishment you go to do after it's a good game started i. think we'll enjoy it. I'll be quite depressed this week. A very sad to hear about the death Tim Taylor a guest on Sta and fantastic man, lovely man and I hope he knew how appreciated he was. And how much of a comedy legend he was a certain late to people, my generation but Utterly depressed by it, so God knows how Garden and Tim. Feeling. About this I'm. Just. Thank you tim for all the laughs and thank you for the goodies and everything you did since then and thank you very much. It was such an honor and a pleasure to meet him last year If you, enjoy these costs, and these twitch streams, and remember.
Artist Bruce Sulzberg on painting Rafael Nadal
"Welcome to the tennis dot. Com Pot guest. I'm one of your host. Nina Pantic joined in this episode by my co host. Irena Falconi! Hey, guys! How's it going? And we have a very interesting episode of everyone today we are with the owner artists of cells media. Fine Arts Bruce Cells Bruce Welcome thank you, thank you so much for having me. Bruce? Do you have a very interesting story? I don't think a lot of people know it has to do with Ross doll. You don't usually have artists on our show, so that's why this is very unique and special you wanNA. Tell everyone story when it comes to tennis. Even if you're not a player or coach or tournament organizer, so let's start with you know where you are in the world during this quarantine and how your life is going these days, it's been very interesting. Interesting just like I would say probably ninety nine point. Nine percent of the world is trying to figure out what the hell you're. GonNa do during his time. you know the one fortunate part about it as being an artist, I've been locked in the studio painting new paintings and working with different ideas and working with RAF and his team Carlos Costa to figure out new and inventive ways to drive in bill business and do things that we are currently not used to doing. So it's been. It's been a wild interesting two months of figuring that out. What's your interest level tenants? Do you play? How did you get into this? US Fascinating I'm actually one of those weird concoctions of I'm an artist athletes so I was a big time athlete. As a kid played eight years of Baseball's all-star in baseball play basketball. I was all star in basketball. Basketball led me. Tennis I was a basketball player. Freshmen in highschool and kind of got into. An argument with my coach basically just decided to leave basketball. And I picked up a tennis racket and I had just. It was a natural thing for me to do. And before I knew I, had a professional coach, and my coach was played played on the tour and played John McEnroe. He saw me play and before I knew I was training with some of the best players in northern, California. And so I played high school career. played college and I still train. I still training a tribe while afford the pandemic I was out there every week. just started getting back out there about a week ago when they released the courts, but tennis is definitely in. My jeans had so much, so that my son plays college tennis. I'm actually had a scholarship to Chapman University as I used to play and made teams freshman, and he's also coach now, too, so and even though he still in college, but yes, definitely in my blood and strange enough. Raw Molly the owner of art encounter. That is my distributor. It turns out the way that we got this deal with him. Was He was tennis player in his whole family's sex players, and when he saw the original painting that I did have all sprouted in hadn't seen them in years we. She just freaked out. Saying Oh my God. This is unbelievable what I told him. I have five hundred signed by the dog himself. Personally and myself and we did a whole thing back in the day. When we have this painting, he's like. Nope, that's it. We're going to do something, so it's been a very unique tennis story all the way around. I can honestly say I think it's been a while that I've actually heard someone say that. They're both an athlete an artist. When was When was the moment where you're figured out like? Wow, I actually have a knack for this whole painting thing. That was easier. I I was asking rg by the time. I was five six seven years old. My parents had me in special school. Special Art schools and You know it was something that they noticed when I was one years old that I can draw and I'd actually kept first painting I drawing than I ever did when I was one and They just knew my dad was artist. He never followed that trade. Actually went into corporate business, but my dad is very artistic used to do paintings. So I kind of had that gene in me. And I just knew at a very early age. That was what I was going to do my life. We hear so much about young athletes figuring out their skill set at a young young age at like three, four five, and to see that art is very similar as interesting for those who don't know the story Bruce is the owner of Salzburg Media Fine Arts, a broad range of professional sports team three. Of National. International athletes he got three D work of Rafa. Nadal for those are not watching this on video. It's behind him, but it's also going to be a link in our episode information. He's also got artwork of Muhammad. Ali Michael Jordan Prince. Fielder Dirk Nowitzki. Irk Nowitzki I'm not a basketball person. I'm sorry. Most importantly. It's the tennis painting that we're really here to talk about, and it's Three D. art, so I want to start with what is three art. What's the process for making an artwork like this before we get into the Roth story? This was very unique idea. That I came up with lean back in nineteen, ninety five, I was doing my very first art show at the New York our next on back in those days that was the largest art show in the world. Everything was painter of any place anywhere was there exhibiting in was at the Jacob Javits in New York City, so as massive and I back then you the jury to get in so jury to get an shared a booth with another artist, and when I was there, all brought was abstract paintings on canvas, because that's what I was painting at the Time Big Love Klee Miro. Picasso, that was kind of backroom basically, and we've been in the show for five days and insult. Damn painting and I told. My My. Fiance at the time in my mom was there with me. I gotTa Take I. Just need to go walk the show and I said. You know if I'm going to do anything in my life I've got to figure out how to do something that no one has ever done and for some reason and it's time. My Dad owned art gallery. Very very successful one back in San Francisco. East Bay and I just something popped in my head. work on glass. Just a glass on the second I got home I started Phil around layers of plexiglas and low and behold. That's how it was born I. Just we just figured out how to frame it how to do the whole thing in. One, doing where usually as an artist you paying on one level is a canvas most most of the time. You're just doing everything on that level of what I wanted to do with cigarette how to take a look at an image of a painting in break it up and put different parts of each of painting on glass, and then use spicer's to separate them, so there's space in between each layer. You get that natural three d look with no gimmicks, no anything no lighting. It's all based on different layers and different perspectives, so that's how it was born and. The risk on history.
"Hello everyone and welcome to frames. My name is Scott Olsen and I am talking today with Beowulf Sheehan. Beowulf is one of the most sought after most successful and I believe most important portrait photographers in New York. These days he has worked in more than fifty countries lectured at New York University and Yale among other places and if you go to his website you will see portrait of people like Oprah Winfrey Twenty Morrison Patti Smith Margaret Atwood Patrick Stewart in Kellyn Paul Simon and dozens and dozens of others. It is a body of work of which I am personally Quite envious good morning. Bill could he's got great to hear Your Voice. I do have a quick thought for you. I've not traveled to fifty countries the photograph I photographed in better than ten by way of commissions however I have photographed people from at least fifty countries and hopefully been able to travel to their worlds in cultures through those experiences. Okay I saw that on your resume and I was impressed and I'm still impressed. So tell me how things are in New York this morning. New York is a beautiful place this morning. The air is cool and crisp outside. I did have a short walk this morning. I am very fortunate that out my window. I have a cemetery so I get to see less trees and I have a great deal of quiet. What sounds I hear. Every morning in this new time of ours is usually One of two things that I hear all either your birdsong or I will hear the sound of a passing ambulance and of course happy to hear the former not to hear the ladder. That is the time in which we live summer mornings in New York. City yes Tell me about portrait photography but let let let's begin where people how in the world could you get into photography? How did you get into the kind of portraiture that you do specifically I into photography being a shy boy and wanting to make friends and prior to the thought of making friends? I wanted to be reacquainted with my father. My parents divorced when I was in elementary school. My father was out in my life for a few years and when he came back the beginning of my high school years he had a Konica thirty five millimeter camera. A Long Lens to go with it and when I arrived at high school which was a high school outside of my neighborhood I went to magnet high school for foreign languages. I was busted very early in the morning to get there. I was in the ethic minority in head a world of new friends to make and when I got to school my classmates were speaking about two things with which I was unfamiliar of the Miami Dolphins. I grew up in Fort Lauderdale and girls and I knew very little about both but I had been working in the summers and not really spend that money on anything beyond books and comic book so I had enough money saved to become the youngest person in the history of the Miami Dolphins the buy season tickets to the Miami Dolphins. That's impressive I go So what I had done was than I began to use my father's camera and I would take a tripod that camera that long lens invite a new acquaintance from high school to eat game. And I believe my mother had driven been to us down To attend these games and no one ever stopped me. The guards were very kind. They recognize me after a few games. I always went through the same gate that sort of thing and was able to watch Dan Marino or the ball around and make pictures and then make Prince of those pictures and share them with classmates over time developing friendships and of course Getting to know my father again. That's a wonderful beginning there. Is I know an extraordinary event. Though in your early connection to reading and that's possible yes but but I'll let you lead that so when you're asking the extraordinary connection is well. Yeah you you are probably the only you are the only person I know who's ever been bitten by an alligator. Oh this is true this this. I don't know all the people in your life of course who you know but but I'm the only person I know who's been bitten by an alligator and that happened to me in the summer of nineteen seventy six in June of that year. I was of course on summer break from school quite small and my brother and I were playing in the backyard of the home of a friend of my mother in southwest Fort Lauderdale where there are canals and those canals in some cases feed than Their Way West to the Florida everglades and of course. That's where alligators hang out. And some of them sometimes get lost. My brother-in-law had been wrestling. This lady's backyard was time to come into the House for lunch. I had asked the Lady of the House. If we could use your host wash our feet persons they were full of dirt from the grass and the young lady had said no actually better just a spicer feed off the dock and then it'll be quicker and I went I. I remember sitting at the dock. Enjoying splash on my feet and looking at my brother and my brother's twenty months younger than me made his eyes get bigger and he looks down on my foot. I looked at my foot and I saw the alligator close. Its mouth around my right foot and I went to some degree of shock. The allegation let go. He caught the outside artery of my ankle and bloodshot out. Allah a bad money iphone sketch. And my my brother then began to grab my body to try to pull my body up and my mother and my mother's friend of course had come out of the house at this time and they were lifting me from the document onto the grass. The allegation had gone back under the dock. And I don't know how much more time passed or how much blood I lost but I then at some point found in the emergency room of a hospital where my brother was born. Only a few blocks away and doctors worked in saved my foot. Save my leg. There was concern for infection loss and I was very lucky to have for the balance of the summer. Have Gone to the hospital every day to get my foot. Epsom salts to save it and that meant of course not being able to play games at not being able to enjoy summer camp not being able to do sports do much of anything involved mobility and that deepened my reading and then with it of course my drawing and my reading and drawing through my childhood in and beyond began with comic books and then onto more challenging books More INTERESTING BOOKS. Maybe more interesting stuff. The right word say because books are wonderful. And they're very very interesting. Otherwise we wouldn't have these films adaptations of stories that now the masses is seen film but the the books of course comic books would come out once a month and it was great to go to seven eleven after school and pick up those books but I would devour them so quickly and then I really wasn't in the mood to wait another month for the next book to come out so I would just draw stories myself. The drawing worked its way over time of course into photography. But that's a longer compensation which I'm happy to have
Are the lockdowns working?
"Governments will be wary. That lockdowns may prove to be like wolves in rather be in being rather rather easier to stop than stop. But what do the scientists think? Well he is one on joined once again by monocle. Twentyfold Health and science correspondent. Dr Chris Smith Regular listeners will know that Chris spends his busy days working as a virologist at Cambridge University in Chris. First of all. Is it possible at all? I know this might be a bit of A. How long is a piece of string question but possible to quantify what difference the lockdowns have made? We think that they've made us turn the corner. Andrew as in when you model what this was doing certainly in the UK and other countries in terms of the growth of the pandemic and the number of cases it was growing exponentially and quite quickly. We saw the numbers of cases growing level and off and then admissions to hospital leveling off and then the number of people losing their lives leveling offer now beginning to to go down so this is certainly this intervention broken the chain of transmission or at least made it run through trickle rather than down a nice drag strip so it's definitely putting an obstacle in the way of the spread of the virus In terms of how long it's GonNa take for the peak to drop down get out of the foothills and onto level ground again though. We don't know that yet. So that being the case how and what certainty does anybody know? When do I even start lifting? Lockdowns how do you make that judgment? That's the million dollar question or in the case of what the U K economies being hit by billions per week and people really want to this question if I asked lots of times of lots of different people. Both Vala gist mathematicians politicians. I talked to and I get the same answer. We don't know So people are beginning to look at this from another perspective which is rather than what's out trigger point when to institute change the beginning to say. Well what do we think we could do to sort this out and walk? We therefore implement straight away spicer very interesting mathematician in Paris yesterday. And he's come up with very interesting strategy of carving countries up into a series of sales almost like mobile phone network cellular network cells. And thinking about how you call the country up not just arbitrarily doing in a way where you say. Well where are the people? Where do they go to work? We create sales where you don't divorce people from their work of course and these cells are ring-fenced so you have a Green Cell Novartis Activity Red Cell Virus activity so it's backed up by testing in surveillance and the idea is that you don't allow people to move outside their cell unless they have a very good reason to do so and you put in place. I measures in each cell to make go green by the vars control there. And once you've got to adjacent green sells a you merge together and so now people can move freely within that green area. You probably with me now. You can see you. Divide the country as honeycomb and slowly green or red turns to green under these circumstances. And this he says for a country the size of France or population the size of the UK. You'd be looking a five or six months of these sorts of measures in order to get control and have us bank to something resembling what life used to be like. What are we learning so far about public consent to such measures? Because obviously what we've been going through all over the world. These last few weeks has been absolutely without precedent certainly in reactionary. I think it just has been completely without precedent. So we're having to learn as we go along about what people are willing to put up with Have you been surprised in any direction by the cooperation of Publix? We knew that people were certainly very very good at getting behind this in the in the outset. And we know that people when you when you generally throw down the gauntlet in front of the people and say. There's a very good reason to do this. Let's get behind it people. Do I mean Captain told me who said I want to raise a thousand pounds by doing one hundred laps of my care home garden for my one hundredth birthday and threw down the gauntlet internationally and got twenty seven million pounds. He's raised now just goes to show. The people of re good at getting behind. The cause of the compliance was excellent. But when all this began the psychologists said to policymakers members of government there will be a period of time during which compliancy is very good and then people will begin to tire of this. And you won't be able to get them to do it forever. Many people pooh-poohed this idea but we're beginning to see evidence of this. Because if you if you look at the traffic densities own roads. Traffic density is rising again. If you look at the number of people who actually back at work numbers are going back up. People did get behind it to stall with but I think people are beginning to tire. And we're not going to be able to hang onto people's confidence in this forever so is is it possible then or arguable. Might even be a good thing that some of the lockdown restrictions being lifted that. We're seeing in some places at schools or small shops that those there's actually a psychological aspect To those decisions as well as a strictly medical one well one school of thought. If excuse the PUN is the by sending bag schoolkids what you actually do is facilitate a whole heap of spread through that sector of society and since we know the risk that school kids Ingende and given the schoolkids have younger parents on average the risk. Their parents is going to be really low. This is one way of a controlled spread through a sector of society leading to natural acquisition of immunity and resistance to this without actually placing additional risk in in the way of people who in my swamp so some cynics saying well one way to solve this problem. Is You just Let the scores Go back. And this will take care of the immunity and immunization naturally of quite a broad swathe of society. Now that's certainly one approach and other approaches to say we're not going to do anything to have vaccine. Most people agreed that this is impractical and at the opposite end of the scale completely to the vaccine and not doing anything is the we. Just go business as usual now. Most people are comfortable that we can't do that but so something somewhere between the two where we use. What will be probably much richer. Data informed by testing in terms of where immunity is around the country where the viruses circulating in the country and where people are living working commuting where the facility for spread is greatest. If we combine all of this information. I think we probably will end up adopting something like the model. I outlined that the Parisian mathematicians are proposing perhaps not identical but something which enables a degree of normality in some places reinforced by testing and surveillance together with Other signs brought to bear such as issues like vaccination when that eventually materialize. If it does an any drugs we can throw it this as well as continuing to protect the most vulnerable people either by shielding them or by testing the workers who are going to care for them and then only deploy workers to care for the most vulnerable people who know on our immune.
Grisham out as press secretary, will head first lady's staff
"Press secretary Stephanie Grisham never actually spoke for the president from the White House briefing room podium she did not hold a single news conference after succeeding the more familiar Sean Spicer and Sarah Sanders saying the president did not want her to Grisham will now become belonging to trump's chief of staff and be replaced by two women trump campaign spokeswoman Kaylee McEntee will be White House press secretary Pentagon spokeswoman Alyssa Farah will take on a strategic communications role for a president who believes he is his best spokesman Sager make ani Washington
Bernie Sanders' Campaign to Request Recount of Iowa Caucuses
"Setters presidential campaign Flashdance for partial recount of the Iowa caucus results after the state Democratic Party released results of its recap this late Tuesday the show centers and people to judge ineffective tie me while campaigning in Reno Nevada Sattar says he will take on climate change our administration we'll listen to science not the right wing extremists one word as press secretary Sean Spicer says Sanders truly believe in the principles of socialism while other democratic presidential hopefuls are trying to appeal to liberal activist during the primaries morning Joe Biden will say the code words to the Democrats to to get their vote but that when they go to a general what will kind of be equity talking about I'm not a socialist sponsors of the the the Salem radio network
BONUS: State of the Race | 2020 Primary Analysis with Emily Tisch Sussman
"I'm Jim Taylor skinner. And this is the electorate on this episode. I have a conversation with democratic political strategists Emily Tisch sussman and she's a correspondent on MSNBC and CNN. And she's also the host of the popular political podcast primary playlists. She actually interviewed Hillary Clinton and last week. And I'm totally jealous anyway. Emily join me for quick state of the race analysis including a post debate analysis of the first democratic debate following the Iowa Cacus the Iowa caucus the Seattle with a surprising in ever changing results. Yes that Iowa Caucus we also talk about Tuesday's New Hampshire primary and and what's going to happen beyond that. So here's my conversation with Emily Tisch Sussman to sussman. Welcome to the PODCAST. Thank you so much for having me you know I just realize is yesterday that we're entering the second week of February. It's very new and I need a vacation. I need my summer vacation like yesterday. He because I was thinking through last week Monday was the Caucus Iowa caucus which was chaotic. To say the least following that I think Tuesday was the wildest Steve The union I've ever witnessed my entire life than once they I think was the acquittal Thursday. We had a bit of a break and Friday. I think was the tenth. Democratic debate was at the tenth or the eleventh. Yeah something around that. I am extremely pregnant right now and like the joke that this thing could force me into labor like shocking into into Labor like stopped being funny this week because there were many although the thing that ultimately ended up doing it was when I was worried that Jerry Harris wasn't going to share bat was ultimate. Well you made it. You made it especially to the caucus. So what was your take. What's your take on the Iowa caucus from last week in the state that we're in right now because honestly i? I'm still a bit confused. It is crazy. I mean I've been saying I was at I was at in Iowa for the caucus in two thousand sixteen and was truly leash shocked by the process and the fact that I felt like so many people got left out because they didn't just couldn't have the time or the transportation to be able to show up and participate -ticipant net Last week one of the things that almost shocks me into Labor is that I interviewed Hillary Clinton and she said the process was undemocratic which is actually the farthest this I've ever heard anybody go in describing it and I think that how everybody pretty much feels that way like one of the things that I worry about in the long term as if November is the long-term though when weeks or as long as last week November can feel like long term one of the things that I worry about is that even if trump is loses uses. The electoral college loses the election. He won't step down and he'll question the results of the election and I don't think that that the results also the Iowa caucus if we even have results right now. We finally do and Democratic candidates questioning the results of it. I don't think it helps set a precedent for us to be able to have a peaceful transfer of power if there should be one November. No because you're exactly right because immediately wants to come out about the Iowa Caucus. He jumped on twitter to cast doubt on the whole process. Do you remember that. Said something like old Democrats are in disarray or something. I O caucuses a mess. and He's already casting doubt down on the process. Probably looking for is what's going to happen in November exactly. It's a way to be able to do so doubt from the beginning so that he can essentially control control the outcome because if he controls the entire frame of the narrative which isn't that he's very good at doing then he can get everybody reacts to it so we're no longer just starting from creating our our own framework of like what would normally be considered truth. We're only reacting back and forth to what he says. I'm glad you said that because I've been thinking about that too and I kind of mentioned that every now and again but I still kind of like a conspiratorial list when I talk about the fact that he may not stepped down. He's been hinting at this. Like he tweets out trump twenty twenty four trump eight trump. We know twenty thirty two. I mean he won't be alive that long but I mean but there's always exactly but anyway anyway so you know it's it's it's actually a possibility that we would have to struggle to get him out of office even if he did lose the electoral college in November. I mean it's something that seems totally crazy but these are crazy times and we are not dealing with somebody who is truly grounded in reality when you are only driven by by our own narcissism and and. Apparently the rules don't apply. I feel like everything's on the table. I think one of the biggest impacts of his presidency is that we don't know how to follow up with questions so we we see we've seen this time and time again although there's no longer White House briefings but but it started from day one right from the beginning with Sean. Spicer talking about the crowd. The size of the inauguration that journalists would say well that's wrong. Here's the evidence and whether it's the president or the surrogates would say well no. I'm just sticking to my point. How many times can journalists follow up and say you're factually incorrect? It's right in front of you before they have to just move on right. Exactly I mean I try to follow up on the the lies in that seat of the new address. I mean like Nancy Pelosi the only thing she could have was tearing up the and and let me tell you why I actually think that was so brilliant is the next day. The only conversation was about Nancy Pelosi. Tearing up trump ended up tweeting more about Pelosi tearing bring up the speech than the content of his own speech. Yeah so the Iowa Caucus you know. I think that we have the results. Although I did see something this morning that said that the the Sanders Bernie Sanders was asking for a partial re canvassing of Iowa. And I'm not really sure what that process is but I guess just in short. I don't think that this completely close is an honestly I mean. I don't wanNA sound like trump. I'm not sure how much we can even trust the actual numbers. I'm just not sure I mean. How much do they trust that I mean at this point? What what they have are going back to the paper recordings of tallying up counting? Who is in the room counting? Who moved I mean they're they're combing back through it. I think the thing that has been frustrating to me about the coverage of Iowa is that it's not winner. Take all so who quote wins. Sounds actually doesn't really matter that much it's how many delegates you get out of it. The the reason we care about who wins is because they get a lot out of momentum out of it they they are now seen as electable they can you know bank on fundraising on momentum all of that but that was essentially all negated because of the disaster the function of the caucus So the fact that he and Buddha judge are neck and neck within one delegate in the grand scheme of things one delegate it is likely not GonNa make the biggest difference it feels like they should just move onto the next contest. You know practically it doesn't make a difference but you're right. It does make a difference in terms of momentum and I think that Buddha judge has probably benefited the most from being that close to sanders right. I think that the final count was Buddha. Judge was one delegate ahead of seeing. What's so essentially? You could say claim that he's the winner the winner of the Iowa Caucus which you know as far as like optics are concerned earned. That's really good for him and not the best sanders given given like if you look at the entire context of the primary the news. That's falling Bernie Sanders this week right He had an interview with Chuck. Todd or he talked about you know. He decided that he wasn't going to release his medical records. Right and then James Carville didn't interview where he also also questioned whether it was a smart move for America to select Bernie Sanders as their nominee. Right I mean so I think that Bernie Sanders Sanders needed that push more than Buddha judge at this moment. Well yes I mean I think they both I think they both benefited from it. A lot because sanders entire argument has been Ed. I am electable because I will turn out new voters. I will expand the electorate. I will bring out people who don't normally vote and because because the turn out is actually less than two thousand eight and a little bit above where it was in two thousand sixteen. That argument looks like it fell a little bit flat that it may not be true wasn't like there was this surge of new people coming in Buda judge I think benefits from it. I actually think they both benefit equally. I don't think it really matters who at this point is named like the quote winner. Because I think the whole thing just looks like maths to be honest with you and I think it's why people care about New Hampshire so much but I think that the reason that that Buddha judge got a big bump from it is really the Buddha Judge Biden narrative that it's such a huge contrast where Biden's made argument was electability pretty And the fact that booth judge performed so much better than Biden defying define where people thought that he would have been even in the the last couple of polls before that it seemed like he had fallen maybe to third or fourth so the fact that he did so much better I think was the big exciting narrative for him happy. You know. Reporters don't really want to report on something that if it seems like it's supposed to happen it happens like not that exciting but if it seems like it's not supposed to happen search then it's amazing. I mean I think unfortunately the candidate that really got raised in all of this is the fact that Warren came in third. She in this race this she came in third. She will probably come in first or second in New Hampshire. So let's talk about her that way.
What is Postpartum Depression? Recognizing the Signs and Getting Help
"There was this myth. That women couldn't possibly be depressed during pregnancy. There's such a happy time. That's Dr Jennifer Pain. She's a psychiatrist and directs. The women's Mood Disorder Center at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and the reality. -ality is a lot of women struggle with depression and anxiety during pregnancy as well as during the postpartum time period about one in seven women experienced this and and yet we don't talk about it much for thirty six year old Meghan rettig. It kicked shortly after. She gave birth to a son lost me. I would force myself to see people people and smile and say you know everything's great and then the second I had a chance where I wasn't holding him I could go to my room and cry and I probably couldn't count how many hours a day I cried. Sorry harder to this is harder to do than then you I think it is this is. NPR Life Kit. We're talking about anxiety and depression during pregnancy and postpartum I cover mental health for NPR and over the past year. I've been doing a lot of reporting on this topic in this episode will tell you how to identify symptoms fine in treatment and give you useful tips on how to manage your mood and wellbeing during this time and this isn't just pregnant women new moms it's for spouses. Parents parents siblings close friends as well. Because chances are you will be the first person to realize that your spouse or daughter or friend is struggling in. You can help refined treatment. We heard from over three hundred women who wrote who to us about their experience with anxiety. Depression during pregnancy and postpartum. Many of them said it took them a while to realize there were depressed and most of them felt ashamed and blamed themselves for it. He is making riddick. I felt guilty about how I felt so I absolutely tried to hide it from everybody and I would put on the best appearance I could. That's why most women don't see count says Dr Jennifer Pain. It is hard to become a new mother but then if a woman's depressed on top of that she's going to have negative feelings about herself as part of the depression and it becomes an even bigger thing but she stresses that depression isn't the mother's fault or failing it's a complication of pregnancy and childbirth house. pardom depression is actually the most common complication of childbirth. I that's our first takeaway. Depression and anxiety can be complications of pregnancy and childbirth just like just diabetes and hypertension. Their mental illnesses just like anxiety and depression at any other point of time as for what causes it. Jennifer pain says researches stone fully. I understand it but most mental illnesses she says are caused by a combination of biological factors and life circumstances in this case she says hormones hormones likely play a big role so we think in the postpartum time period that what happens is estrogen and progesterone levels which have been increasing throughout pregnancy precipitously drop And so there's basically a massive hormonal withdrawal from the brain and if someone had had anxiety or depression before they became pregnant their degree to risk. Now what makes women more vulnerable at the stage. Is that major life transitions. Sion's are big triggers for mental illnesses like pregnancy. And having a child it's a wonderful life change for many people but that doesn't mean it's not stressful You have to think about finances you have to think about caring for an infant. All of these factors come together to create a perfect perfect storm. And the reason it's really important to address this as pain is that if left untreated. It has long-term consequences on the baby's health and development so fabius whose moms were severely depressed postpartum time period have lower. IQ's slower language development. It's and more behavioral problems. Probably because they're not getting that normal interaction That mom's generally give their infants in the postpartum time period. Red And there are health risks for the mom to some women and the feeling suicidal in some even die by suicide in the first year postpartum others like Meghan rettig. Nick who wrote to US set these seriously thought about leaving their baby and spouse. I thought that I wasn't good enough for them. And that if I were just to leave leave that my husband could find a better wife and my son could find a better mother that he'd be able to find somebody to replace me. Who would be more adequate pain? Says it is important important to get the mother into treatment as soon as possible. Because I we save mom's not happy. No one's happy now. We're telling you this not not to scare you. The good news here is that this is treatable and with the right treatment women recover and do well but in order to get treatment. You I need to know if you're depressed that's our takeaway number to know what symptoms to look for and we're going to break them down for you. What I tend and to look for are women? Who are you know? Barely getting themselves together and taking care of the baby doctor. Paint says is if you're struggling to do daily activities every day for two weeks or more that's an indication you need help. Many women who wrote to us about their experience appearance with postpartum depression set the felt detached from their baby. Including Riddick I was afraid that I would never love him I. I thought that this is the bond between mother and child is the love that is so You know infallible. And I was afraid raid that I would never feel that because I didn't feel it in the beginning and there's a whole range of symptoms. Here's Dr Paint again. Many women when they're depressed have have low mood. Can't get out of bed. Have trouble concentrating trouble eating properly don't sleep well etc.. Anger can also be a symptom. Many women will get angry. That the baby's waking them up again or will not settle down and that can be really overwhelming feeling and then of course. It's a vicious vicious cycle because then the woman feels guilty. Thinks she's a bad mother and it just goes and goes in circles. She says many women also become really anxious anxious anxiety. Disorders are very common and pregnancy as well and those can look like generalized anxiety or having panic attacks or the anxieties eighties disguised as parenting worries. Only for some women worries play on repeat in their head like they did for Angelina Spicer. One of the MOMS who wrote to US Spicer Spicer is a comedian. And she's on a mission to normalize postpartum depression after what she went through the thoughts for me were like is she gonNa stop breathing. Everything is the dog gonNA come in and eat us up you know. It was just really random but vivid and recurring. You and the intrusive thoughts would haunt me at night mostly during like the three am feed or the five am feed. When I was alone alone in a dark room with just my daughter and I now if your spouse or a friend of family member and you're not with the pregnant woman or new mom for extended periods of time you may not see all these symptoms? So how do you tell if moments depressed. When people are depressed? They look very different. There is different. They look at and detached if they smile. It doesn't go up to there is Many people will become slower in their thinking and they're speaking process. So if you or someone you love has any of these symptoms. It's important to find signed help that's our takeaway number three ask for help. Pizza's the best place to start is with the doctor. Women see two main doctors. In the postpartum time period. One is their OBI and the others. The pediatrician and pediatricians are actually starting to screen as well because they recognize nuys. That mom being healthy is an important part of the child being healthy. You mean screen the mother for depression. Yes but many people are not used to talking to a doctor about their mental health. So how do you start that conversation. I think talking straight great is probably the number one tip. I have you know I'm feeling depressed. I can't sleep when the baby is sleeping. I'm not getting enough to eat and I've lost more weight than I expected. But just being very concrete and In clear what the doctor that there is a problem. You doctor can prescribe you. An antidepressant which has is being shown to be safe and effective during pregnancy. And when you breastfeeding and research shows the talk therapy is also very helpful. Your doctor can refer you to to a therapist or counselor remember. Treatment will look different for
United States Conference of Mayors brings together bipartisan leaders in DC
"Hundreds of US mayors are gathered in Washington for the US conference of mayors annual winter meetings the mayors are discussing the state of cities and focus on national priorities Framingham's a smaller city that most the mayor of on Spicer who's attending the conference tells me all city faced in which challenges no matter the size number of may is reached out to me last week when we had a shooting episode in in Framingham and unfortunately you know one of the first on homicides we've had all in over five years and but being able to get some support from other mayors that have experience with similar situation whether they're in small towns or they're in bigger cities too so I see there is no issue that transcends one location conference wraps up on
Ex-Trump staffer suing over pregnancy discrimination
"Of president trump's former staffers is claiming she was given the cold shoulder than frozen out of a White House House job job after after she she got got pregnant pregnant as as a a result result of of an an affair affair with with her her married married supervisor supervisor during during trump's trump's twenty twenty sixteen sixteen campaign campaign CBS CBS news news reports reports that that Monday Monday AJ AJ Delgado Delgado filed a federal lawsuit alleging discrimination from trump's campaign and other now former staffers including Steve Bannon insists on Spicer then rinse previous Delgado said she felt humiliated and degraded and that the alleged discrimination was malicious and conducted with full knowledge of the law Delgado is a political commentator who was an early supporter of Mr trump's candidacy in twenty fifteen the lawsuit says trump praised Delgado as a star and said at least three times he hire her if you want well according to Delgado things took a turn during the transition when the father of her child Jason Miller allegedly told her she could be seen waddling around the house the White House and Spicer said that the White House was quote no place for a new mom the lawsuit demands a jury trial determine damages to be paid to her the press office for Mr trump's twenty twenty campaign did not respond to a request for comment meanwhile the trump campaign filed for arbitration against Argyle claiming she broke a non disclosure
Shinzo Abe Becomes Japan’s Longest-Serving Prime Minister
"Shinzo our prime. My Minister of Japan will today be celebrating. What would have seemed a decade or so back an unlikely milestone? He is now the longest serving prime minister. In Japan's history is brief stint from two thousand six to two thousand seven added to the longest stretch has enjoyed since two thousand twelve has overhauled the benchmark set by. Juke Cuts Toro three times. Prime Minister of a very different Japan in the early years of the twentieth century. Nobody serves as long as a house without tapping into something in their electorate. So in our base case Wat- one joined with more on this Spicer David Warren Former UK ambassador to Japan now Associate Fellow with the Asia Pacific Program At Chatham House David thank you for joining us rb. Does he have a particular singular secret. Is there one thing about him which is got into where he's got to and kept him there i. It's hard to say that he does although he's clearly a competent politician in Japanese terms. And he's come to the premiership of Japan of course after a period of intense political volatility extending over decades in Japanese politics. Prime Minister for the most part have come and gone and there's genuine public Cynicism and discontent with the fragile nature of Jap the Japanese politics so in a sense he benefited from having come after a period of great great Great Tab instability and he benefited also from having a very weak opposition during this period because the opposition party which was in government government three years between two thousand nine and two thousand twelve when it was cold. Democratic Party of Japan has been itself Rhythm With factions and essentially all over the place in terms of being able to land any punches on the Liberal Democratic Party government. So you haven't any competition in the end. He hasn't much competition from outside the party. And he's given the Japanese people a sense of stability which I think they have respected. So you wouldn't say there's an RB ISM as such. There is not a philosophical cornerstone to him philosophical cornerstone to him. But I'm not certain. It's one shared by the Jersey of Japanese people originally from the nationalist wing of the Liberal Democratic Party Much of his Political philosophy is good on. We habilitation his grandfather who was prime minister of Japan in the nineteen fifties and had a very problematical record in the nineteen thirties and forties during Japan's occupation career and four in China. And he has a nationalist. I think wants to both rehabilitate Prime Minister Kitchen. Gran- grandfather's father's mutation and also to turn the page so to speak on Japan's problematic history in ways. which do not necessitate? The next generation of Japanese need having to grapple as much with the the difficult politics of apology that other innovations have had to do But that nationalism is ten uh-huh by a political pragmatism of the recognition that He needs to fix the Japanese economy. Most Japanese voices are more worried about economic issues the constitutional nationally issues and that. Whatever obeys nationalist impulse maybe he needs to ventilate them in ways which staint disturb Japan's regional neighbours particularly China and Korea He had a very different sense of twentieth century. History in in that regard with China. He's got the relationship back onto something more of an even Keel career. It's much more difficult than well. How successful do you think he has been the not very by the sound of it? IN-IN addressing those difficult relationships with its neighbors in the region often overhung as they are by a history of world war. Two Cudi of done more. Well he's been successful with China. I think it's fair to say you inherited a difficult situation with China in in two thousand twelve when he became prime minister. The previous government nationalized the disputed islands in the East China Sea. which had alienated the Chinese Government and lead to a serious deterioration in the relationship nationalism. In the sense to prevent extreme nationalist getting the hands on them relations the China very very difficult and after initial period of tension. In which are they Like some of his predecessors as prime minister visited controversial Ashley yesterday shrine intake I they has invested considerable effort in establishing more of a relationship with Xi Jinping and getting the relationship back onto who Something more bridging equilibrium. Now there is talk. All Xi Jinping making a state visit to Japan in the spring of Twenty Twenty strong stronger relationships at every level of the Japanese and Chinese governments and there is a serious dialogue not least east because both countries face unpredictable. US Administration This time so the record with China is best and Eve. When I was prime minister in the decade he bested lots of time in improving relations with China to the situation with career is much harder because There is both Business over disputed history particularly on the Korean side and the sense on the Japanese side. The taught to know how to deal with careers concerns the Japanese. This was all settled. Many years ago with extensive reparations agreement that the issue was closed is they are resentful of the Koreans now reopening these historical issues so while I think there is some legitimate criticism of days. Playing the the nationalist card in in in this area there is also the sense Career is is is stay with him to negotiate during your time says Ambassador to Japan. What sense were you able to get all obeys personal style? What what what is he like to deal with as an individual when I wasn't I'm bachelor at the time. When I was in power? He was in power for a year in the mid noughties when he succeeded Prime Minister Junichiro. Well he's only and that was a very unsuccessful time any wasn't well and there were scandals which produced the effectiveness of these government and the U. banned last year? He became prime minister. Game Justin I left Japan at the end of my ambassadorship in twenty twelve. So what do I met him Briefly socially really and observed him as one of a number of leaders of the opposition during that very very febrile terriers. I didn't his His style-obsessed hand but he is certainly Powerful politician he's centralizing politician. He's established strong central control throw of the mechanisms of government of the appointment of key personnel. he is a strong leader in those terms Some in Japan would argue that he is too strong a leader that he centralize too much that he creates a political. Is it gonNA spread by. People are reluctant to step out of line into sagres with what comes out of the center out of the Prime Minister's office that can lead to strong and stable government not one respect it can also lead to Mistakes accounting if they have in certain areas of policy where civil servants have told politicians what they want to hear other than in the objective and and practical advice.
Trump deletes tweet telling people to vote for Spicer on 'Dancing With the Stars' after elimination
"Sean Spicer hanging up his tap shoes the former White House press secretary has been voted off dancing with the stars he lasted longer than many expected Twitter exploding every week with people asking how after getting low scores the whole time he survive it could've been thanks to his former boss president trump who even tweeted last night during the show for people to vote for Spicer calling him a very loyal guy after Spicer was voted off the president deleted that tweet map Piper CBS
Sean Spicer eliminated on ‘Dancing With the Stars’ despite support from Trump
"A former trump administration official of finally lacing his dancing shoes here CBS news correspondent Deborah Rodriguez Sean Spicer has been voted off ABC's dancing with the stars after eight weeks of low scores and an Argentine tango judge Bruno Tonioli like into an Argentine struggle still Spicer was grateful president trump tweeted support along the way and after last night's
"spicer" Discussed on Zero Blog Thirty
"And whenever he would walk in and we asked him, like, sir, what? What is it like for you? And he said, well, I'm a pilot. Does it really matter? I just get up and fly and that's about it. But you had difficulty airforce? Exactly. Real original. Yeah. So sounds like at least you did something instead of just goof around in the air. Paychecks and you know, I think we'd be remiss not to mention. So in the military, we have a very, I think light sense of humor. I think everyone tries to keep everything humorous just because of the nature of what we deal with every day. You gotta tell me, you know, we've all seen probably people imitate our commanders. What was it like to see Melissa McCarthy imitate you on Saturday Night. Live because I'm a big SNL guy in that really was like the highlight of the season. For you? Not. Sorry. Yeah. I. You know, it was surreal. I've I've mentioned before. I mean, it was just it to your point. It's conic like I'd grown up. Imitation is the sincerest form of the difference is, is that I thought it was funny. I got a kick out and then I was like, holy crap. That's me. And also recognize the fact that that I had now was going. I mean, it's funny as I thought it was, I went, oh my God. I'm actually now going to become the story. Right? And that's just a horrible, horrible place to be professionally. Sure. Well, I think at the same time I feel like the military sense of humor. I'm like, painting all at the same brush, but we all have it. But I mean, look at what you did at the Emmys when you went and predicted that the Emmys broadcast of the largest audience and Emmys history period. I feel like that's so smart. And so like that's part of it is that you know, look, I, I was for most Americans. They saw one guy standing up there for thirty frames Yellow River escort. Okay. Like if I can go have some fun and show people like, hey, look, I can take Joe. I'm a human being. Then let's have some fun. And that was kind of the deal that I had. Kobe, which is if you want to do this and you wanna make it funny and I can put a little fun at myself. Then I'm all in if you wanna make this mean whatever. Then I just don't want to be part of it, I think, but you have to understand like, I'm sure you do understand that. There's a certain part of society as well that will never stop holding your feet to the fire for the things they thought that you like contributed to correct. I get it, but you know, I mean, that's so all I can do. I mean, what I basically said going forward is I'm gonna go out and have things. I enjoy that I think are fun and that you know, make sense for me, but so I'm not going to go. I mean, I've been offered endorsement deals and other Stillie things where I'm like, okay, that's silly. That's demeaning. I get it though that there are people that are gonna forever go. I don't care what you do or say, I'm not gonna let you. Okay. Yeah, but I think that's unfair because as as you said you were going out there and you were relaying a message that wasn't Sean Spicer up there, and here's what I think on these issues and and fight me on this..
"spicer" Discussed on Pod Save America
"Better way to Sean Spicer's good now we are still in Hillary Clinton's based someone could send some food water welcome to positive America I'm John Fabra I'm John Lovett I'm Tommy Vitor on the pod today in Studio we'll talk to the editor in chief of the Huffington Post Lydia pilgrim and later or call the host of cookie Here's Pat Save the People d'auray mckesson love it house love it or leave it on Friday good it was a great episode people download it should download it Guy Brenham we had Erin Ryan who is hilarious we had Julissa Arce we had Cyrus Lieutenant Governor of Washington. He's really funny he's really funny I like Cyrus Lot he's friend of mine and I was excited for people to hear what he's like cool tell me who's on the world this week I do an episode on some pretty horrible things going on in John Maher there's in fact what's been called an ethnic cleansing potentially genocide of a group of people call the row Hanke who are a Muslim minority group yet is one of those issues that is the were you read about it the more brutally hard it is to comprehend that this is actually happening but I do think it's important not to look away from this stuff and if we can bring attention to it and maybe international community do something so tune in glad you're bringing some attention to that okay so before we get into real stuff a lot of people on twitter have been asking for quickly rant on Sean Spicer at the lesson I almost I almost didn't make it in today because I'm still laughing so hard so funny Sean Spicer remember when he lied it's Hilarious Colbert so well equipped to have Sean Spicer on in raking over the coals for being a guy who has no morals and for being a huge liar are just like have them come out and joke about lying the podium from day one I didn't think I don't think it's funny I don't think he should get like that glossed over in his resume going forward with it it to me is that Colbert was on Kimmel last week and Kimmel brought up spicer because Kimmel had spicer on and Kobe was very tough on him and said he doesn't see seem to want redemption he doesn't WanNa see seem to apologize right so I figured like you know Colbert would would not do that but it's just weird like we're going to like it there's GonNa be no penalty now we have some agency in this whole penalty questions let's keep at it yeah oh by the way book Sean but no but it's like honestly you know an anti-trump emmys where spicer comes on stage I don't really care I don't think it's funny what bothered me more was the day luge of cell fees could've coming over the twitter all night of like here's Sean Spicer the governor's ball and here he is here and here he is there What a good time he's having getting all these you know look did not care for it no it's you know it's one more thing about that because everyone's like Spicer lied about Christ this is not about Spicer Lauterbach light about crowd size and that was the joke that wasn't let's remember that's not the biggest lie like the worst more damaging lie is he defended trump's lie about three million people voting illegally in this country he defended trump saying that Barack Obama committed a felony buyers happening him we just we forget these things and now we're just like you know yeah and you also like Small Line Thought Donald Trump was a disgusting person until he was in charge then he went worked for him he's the worst he told all the reporters in DC before he worked for trump how awful trump was every reporter knows that every reporters told the stories about it and then he went to work for him anyway John Spicer doesn't get to be in on the fucking joke he's grabbed that's it he is the joke right okay so now Graham Cassidy Republicans in the Senate or making one last ditch effort to make health insurance unaffordable for tens of millions of Americans they have until September thirtieth to pass a bill through the reconciliation process which means they only need fifty votes after that date they need sixty the bill is Graham Cassidy I'm wearing my repealing go fuck yourself t shirt today to show how your resolve my resolve uh-huh dangerous this is leadership we talked a little bit about what the bill on Thursday but just to review eliminates the individual mandate which would immediately drive up premiums. send the individual insurance market death spiral would allow states to eliminate essential benefits like chemo coverage maternity coverage prescription drugs. eliminate protections for pre existing conditions and then basically it eliminates the affordable care act subsidies and the Medicaid expansion gives that money to states minus four hundred billion dollars over the next ten years and then eliminates all funding in two thousand twenty six yeah so it's the deal so it's radical radical it's ready to go repeal effort it is a full repeal certainly not a compromise we're protected little a little bit by the fact that this is their kind of fall back third final attempt that's something because we were dealing with ultimately a repeal effort that was rooted in the structure of Obamacare this entire time right the different versions we saw but for skinny repeal which was that crazy last ditch effort just to get to the House bill if you remember three months ago or two months ago the last time we were dealing with us but is a fundamentally different thing and and how they actually done this through any kind of regular process could have been something that they could have really rallied people behind in a more significant way because basically takes obamacare and it turns it into less generous block grants and basically puts it on the states to figure out what the the healthcare the many problems with this are one the way they deal with the Medicaid expansion is fucking nuts so basically thirty states expanded Medicaid and twenty states didn't does a lot of rural states and conservative states that refuse to do it even though the money was basically free which punish a lot of their voters well what happens in the bill takes all the money that went to Medicaid expansion two states that expanded and states that doesn't that didn't just divide it up evenly as if no expansion had ever taken place which is just a job Ryan wealth transfer from states like California and New York and even Kentucky states that did the right thing and transferred them to all the states where their governors and legislators didn't care enough about they're poor and minority population to do anything about it to get them healthcare it would be devastating there's awful right now we're short fifty votes right but the thing the thing that makes a lot of p nervous is that this is a bill sponsored by Lindsey Graham and part McCain sort of waffling on it Dean Heller already on board but what I don't get is McCain's whole argument against the last round was that it didn't go through regular order there are no amendments or committee process there was nothing done the weight supposed to be done in the Senate I don't get how he could make that big bold stand in jump on board so if you listen to him on on Sunday he was on face the nation and John Dickerson asked him about this and he said on face the nation we should have bill go through regular order this person process and I think the bipartisan effort being undertaken by Lamar Alex Sandra Patty Murray should come to the floor for a vote that's he just said that yesterday on Sunday now in other statements he said he likes Graham Cassidy and he said intimately he'll do what his governor tells him to Governor Ducey of Arizona should note that after we love it was just saying under this plan Arizona loses about a billion dollars Arizona's one of the states that gets hurt so you wouldn't imagine that ducey would do it unless of course they pay them off but there's a lot of focus on McCain here but here's the deal cassidy's running around saying they have forty nine votes that's one short of fifty so that's very scary rand Paul seems like a hard no I never on account on Rand Paul because he's upset from the right but he's now over the last couple days tweeted nine times about this proposal including one where he says it's bad because it keeps obamacare and redistributes money from Democratic States Republican states which is which is an argument that people on the left or making it is correct correct but it's like if rand Paul was going to be clip he you wouldn't imagine that he just keep tweeting every day about how horrible this is of course we all remember rampaul was a hard no last time around and then McConnell promised him a vote on clean repeal so that's why he voted for skinny repeal I mean we have seen Republican senators say things that should make it impossible for them to flip and they fled I mean that's what team Hillary didn't D- How did rand Paul's that dumb that in the past had crews all these guys make these grand statements to try to help themselves in the negotiation negotiation and and I'm sitting negotiation deans honorific oh dirty dean journey politicians dirty politician but basically we need Collins Collins and Murkowski have been very quiet it's hard to imagine that they'd say yes but if we have collins and Murkowski and Paul doesn't matter what McCain does that's that's enough we need three nose so and Alaska's also one of the states that loses a bunch of money over the next ten years and nothing has really changed for the two of them since when they stood against the last proposal which was on substance not process like McCain so you would hope that Collins mccusker and there we need one more pause a possibility but that's basically this is all to say it's scary again and everyone's gotta get to the phones I know that's annoying to hear it but it's true it's you know we have to ourselves for saying it's a constant struggle people will so what's going to happen here McConnell will not call this for vote unless he's got fifty they've he has pressed the C O two give a score for this thing even the CBO was busy working on extending children's Health Insurance Program CV Oh man there's some guy deep within the CBO who is exhausted he's got an ashtray with tons of cigarettes like every every month gets a call for McConnell and you need to do six months of analysis in two fucking here's what's really scary about it they think that the CBO only is required to come up with the Gore about how much it costs and they may not have time to figure out what the coverage losses for this bill so they might give a CBO score just about how much it cost without any coverage numbers which is truly fucked up voting voting for a bill especially McCain talking about regular you're GonNa vote for a bill that once again it's the same fucking the bill is bad it's bad bill it's yet another bad replacement bill once again it's like they see they don't care enough about conservative principles Stephen put together that it achieve some kind of an end well-being you WANNA turn it into a block around you want the state to be in charge you come up with this crazy jury rigged dumb fucking way to do it that'll that could never become law fine the bill bat but once again reforming six of the economy tens of millions of people's lives and like we think we can get it done the last week September two days we got two days well it shows that they're trained later died they're trying to sneak it through because they know that if they had a public debate about it they would lose which again this is a reminder you know trump's bad we all everything's about trump this is not about trump this is a bunch of Republicans who've even called out trump lynn like Lindsey Graham and they are doing this very bad things when you go vote it's all about trump it's about these lowest he like he's like a what what's happening with this challenge to the point where he's just first enquiring about it while while playing indivisible guide dot com.
"spicer" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"Um yeah i mean and uh about and he was horrible with his job and i think the guy who replaced him might be worse yeah we're going to get to him in the second because i'm really excited about him but i i mean i i think that the thing about sean spicer is that in some ways he was the perfect and i think other people made this point but i he was always the kind of perfect distillation of the trump administration in some ways because he was this this incredible fusion of like belligerent relentless i mean you know lie about anything anytime anywhere any place and then but with the kind of like white knuckled incompetent anxiety of neurons i mean just that kind of perfect grid of you know i i i i started calling it during the primary i said it's clown fascism and you know obviously trump is a clown in a different way but i mean i there was something about sean spicer's total craven this relentless incompetence and just his you know palpable anxiety not because he felt guilty about being such a horrible person but because he was cognisant enough to know that his lying was ineffective so that made him anxious reactive and i mean you know embolism mccarthy you know she nailed his essence out of the gate and also just be clear to adjust adam what you said he's quitting because you know essentially he got demoted he's not quitting out of any note sensor and sibal yes zero principle ranked.
"spicer" Discussed on The Majority Report with Sam Seder
"Oh how i i'll call you up it's not in palm springs similar and i'll be like hey we got single payer and our chronics his son his putting out an album a lot of coal and though i have a feeling at that point uh uh with with maybe with some you know joint pain or something that you might be lit every by that hard i really i think you might be lit at that point but down the being that is in may let's let's on let's have a little bit of fun uh in say goodbye to sean spicer i i d i like and with this new guy i'm going to be talking like you know i mean i find an excuse to do the tony soprano thing any chance i get a now the scaramucci guy i have to say how was he not trump's spokesperson out of the gate he's like the perfect trump's spokesperson but let's take a little trip down memory lane this was how sean spicer introduced himself the world he came out and not just an ill illfitting suit but really like it's almost like a men's warehouse version of like you're going to look fucking great like nope nobody michael illfitting suit it was it was somebody else's critics exactly it's like what like you don't have to know what do you think about this stuff to do that it just doesn't work right like it or whether a few of us have like a like did he have like a pair of lake flipflops on with that were know when he would be that relax pair of like doc martin's from like the early nineties on with them this is how he introduced himself to the world and then i want your thoughts and i will share mine as we did a due to sean spicer.
"spicer" Discussed on The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
"I think he's trying to get along one side of anthony scaramucci good point very nice we saw the one side where he's very geneal you know he's a he's a charming character you know he's got this kind of new york allure about him right but i think that there's another side to that which is kind of the more braggadocios the more combative side that we see from a lot of these wall street types you know let's not forget anthony scaramucci made a killing on wall street and in the hedgefund sector which is not a you know a cosy and kind business uh so he certainly can't fight back and we've seen him on tv you know when he's defending the president he's not only to charm the reporter in front of them he's also fighting back and i think that will definitely see a lot of that the question is how long will it take for him to start showing that side rather than simply the new to this job and i'm just going to try and charm your socks off and how it doesn't matter how he fights back against the press the kind of language he is how if he gets all redfaced like you saw at times sean spicer at a time it was not there is a way to do it where i'm sure he's going to get frustrated with the media because that is the nature of the job because rostrennen because we can leave but it but it's how it's done that is going to be a he's going to be judged by how he deals with that frustration that's true and he fielded some tough questions today like when he called donald trump a hack some one brought that up and he played it off really well said can we look let's let's play that we have it.
"spicer" Discussed on 1410 WDOV
"Spicer's all wanna else this is cbs news well revolution the sean for information on more golden spires darren gough final news roundup and information overload hour this is a shocking finger on the amount of time you spend in desperation olive topic brooke has plummeted to thirteenth place in viewership ranking across america more people watch nicot like called and cnn today are radoslav justify um and if you wanna go i find that rate what reading they're interested in this at our reading eleven were erik lindh of our culture in this luck rich living sharon are interested in watching house of cards then whatever you're doing as well however are ratings are just fine and the american people say that there are quite interested in what's going on both rodriguez no truth do you if you look at the polar and if you go to the polling most people couldn't care less will watch we how i'm not interested in russia look house in your bubble then you'll bobble show but that's the bubble that's not the people who elected across russian of americans and pulse but at the end was other false pretences that ended on the adoption of doing deary one it's gonna talk about real issues like we're doing with our allies and frauds i wanna ask you but but you're not an iran's how many minutes saw we are you are you a tv producer now you're concerned about how minutes were not i gotta go up through the fake news propaganda and this is saddest alka in i mean you're like shiny like germ fewer shaking shiny objects of rider divert people but i don't think viewers are really that you're you know why why the president's description of a whip trump is accurate because they never were witches and then never walls any collusion it's bogus seeing i'm just one the end your claiming the donald trump volunteer was transparent from the getgo donald trump jr is transparent hit doubt just released as emails because of broken record i know because i'm not.