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"spencer clayton" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show
"Right klavan in there. How did you hear about us box of the no we sent you and say claim that way you gotta stick to it claiming and then he had a spell. It k la v. a. An so as you know we like to elevate the show or class up the show a little bit by bringing on excellent gas but today just for a change of pace we thought we'd go in the opposite direction And bring on michael knowles of the author of a the best selling the number one bestseller nonfiction in the country. Whether the new york times will admit it or not Speechless controlling words controlling minds. I'm not everybody knows this. But the pinnacle of knowles is career before this was imitating me on twitter. This is absolutely true. This is how knowles became part of the daily wire is. I needed somebody to pretend to be me on social media. Because i didn't want to do it myself. I asked my son spencer clayton no relation. I if you knew anybody he said. I'd have my fellow yearly. Michael knowles and knowles was so brilliant imitating me on twitter. That seriously i used to look at his tweets to see how i was supposed to say and how far you fall in since i know that was the best job i ever had. I do think of all the jobs. I've ever had from subway sandwich. Artists was fourteen to today doing the show and the job i was best suited for was being you on twitter. He was a masterpiece. But it. Actually you all series is actually made me think like. That's a talented guy. Because that really wanted me. So i before we get started talking about speechless and other things i have two things i want to say about it. What what is. I was genuinely. I know i'm not allowed to say nice things. I was genuinely impressed with the way he wrote this book. Actually put your back into it and you know so easy. You know you have a popular show. You could just put your face out there with the left sox. One hundred and one ways zone. The left number seventy two and instead. You actually wrote a book. I've now finished it as you wrote a serious book about a serious issue that control of speech and what it means and it's it's terrific and i i. I seriously recommended having said that. You and i have a fundamental and have had for a long time a fundamental disagreement about the way to proceed. And the thing. That's interesting to me about that. I mean we obviously to people are going to disagree about things the way. That's what's interesting to me about. This is that it kind of represents a division in the conservative world. that's not just a division between old people and young people. In which case i would just say. Well you're on your own. Because be i'll be with jesus but it's not just that it's an actual philosophical break On the on the right so when he gets to that but first. Let's talk about the book because it's not just you know ranting at the left about political correctness. You actually have a theory thesis about him political correct. Yeah it's not just ranting at the left it's also ranting at the right. Yes my thesis is that we have misunderstood what political correctness is. We think it's been around for about thirty years. It's actually been around for about one hundred years and we think that political correctness represents a debate between free speech and censorship. I don't think that's what it is. I think that political correctness aims at the destruction of traditional standards. That is what it is after and so it lays a trap for conservatives because react in one of two ways either. You've got the swishes who just go along with it right. Who just will use whatever the pronouns are used. Whatever the new jargon is they'll they'll they'll acquiesce. Obviously that helps the left win. But then you have the more stalwart conservatives. The ones who say their free speech. Purists are free speech absolutists the ones who say i will not go along with this new standard but in so doing they tend to issue standards entirely. They will say you know you say whatever you want. Do whatever you want either way. I think this permits the left to advance because with the left is aiming at is the abandonment of traditional standards in that happens in either case and because nature aboard a vacuum. the left's new woke codes. Fill their place. And i don't think this was always the way it was. But i do think for the past. At least the past thirty years Conservatives actually took on a lot of the left slogans and premise to To fall into the strap and it's a subtle trap. And i don't blame people for falling into it but it is the reason why no matter how hard we fought against. Pc i mean. Trump launched his campaign said pc as the greatest threat to the country and many people have been talking about it for longer but it seems almost that the harder we fight against it the more ground we lose and so the reason for that is because what some on the writer saying is there should be no censorship. There should be no limits on speech and therefore they're abandoning standards. Which is what the left is after that. Yes that e t to the the debate between free speech and censorship. There's something to it. obviously we do. We do want to have a somewhat broad defensive free speech. We don't like be censored but it's sort of an illusory Situation it's a false dichotomy. I think i think all speech regimes necessarily limit. Some things in part because language is limited language discriminates. One thing from another. If bruce jenner is he he isn't she. I suppose that's imposing a limit on a sort of censorship on people but society will always have some things that are settled that are beyond debate. Bill buckley talked about this in nineteen sixty six. He was debating. The future of mccarthyism with leo churn and a lot of people were shocked to hear about the future about. That was in the past. And leo churn said surely what is most important to both of us. Is the open society. The open society is so crucial by the way open. Society is the name of george soros foundation. The this is a left-wing idea and bill. Buckley said well. He was actually sitting in chairs. Like this said no..
"spencer clayton" Discussed on The Andrew Klavan Show
"So subscribe to and download canvas the audio podcast on apple spotify or whatever your platform of choice may be and if you like what you hear be sure to leave a five star review and keep candice's podcast at the top of the charts so as you know we like to occasionally drag this show out of the muck of white supremacy and hatred and bigotry in which we usually while bring on an intelligent and sophisticated guests. Unfortunately this week at brought on my son. Spencer clayton no relation. Who just happens to be a brilliant broadcaster himself. His podcast is called the young heretics. If you're not listening to it you are genuinely missing out. He also kind of editor at the claremont review my absolutely favorite journal of associated or At sierra associate editor editor at american. Mind mind yes. I am a busy guy. I have no idea how. I just sort of by told security. Stop you hardly the faintest recollection last thirty minutes. Even i mean i shoveled you. You wrote a piece now. There's on the american mind sub right. Yes that speaks. This is something that is very dear to my heart. Very close to what i'm thinking about all the time i'm just going to read you. You've you've read it but again like the first graphs is what a strange feeling. There is in the air the feeling of two worlds on parallel tracks. Use whichever metaphor you like. We are living to america's watching two different movies or some of us have woken up and realize we're living in the matrix for me. It seems as if there is an old world definite and imposing but brittle and frail and a new world vital and dynamic but fledgling and uncertain something dying and something being born. This i feel exactly the same way. What's being more well right. I mean many many skate. Many people feel this way rate. This is why i wrote the pieces is. I've heard this sentiment in the air. A lot and part of the problem. I think with talking about it is that when things are being born when their new hazy outline right i mean you don't really know who your baby going gonna grow up to be until the reveals and that's kind of how i feel about all of these conversations that are happening in red state legislatures and in like group chats it through direct message and just people who are saying. Something is obviously terribly wrong. We're obviously going to crisis in this country. Our institutions are falling apart. They're crumbling under the weight of their own wrought. Let's build something else and a lot of times. The something else is like kind of hectic. So here's an example that i didn't talk about in the piece but is really i think emblematic for me. And that's the cryptocurrency right. All of these new bitcoin doj coin theory right i am by no means an economist but but even i can see our financial systems is terribly broken and one of the ways i can see it as because a bunch of read it pros practically brought the whole thing crashing down around our ears not too long ago right. You remember this guy. They've started shorting game. Stop essentially and everybody said oh. You can't do that. You can't do that and they sort of. We're doing what everybody is doing this. And so our finished obviously so financial is so so deep in debt so that something new needs being done and cryptocurrency is kind of an answer to that problem. It's we're going to sell. Essentially as i understand it to one another these secret chains of code and that will be where we sort of route value now. In the in the digital age digital technology transforms everything. All government can think to do with this development is tax it right. Irs is asking for thirty two million dollars just to vote to. How do we tax people's cryptocurrency elizabeth. Warren is out here whining about the electricity that people use by by. I mean this is all they can think about is how to shut this down. There were a million things that you could look at. Bitcoin is a million things. If you say well yeah. We're going to have to figure out how to integrate this into our pre existing system. But what if you could like pay your taxes in bitcoin. What if we could integrate this somehow into to make the dollar stronger to make america's financial and so. I'm not saying that everybody knows the answers to these questions. I'm just saying that. I'm with the guys that are trying to figure them out in real time by not with the guys that want this to just just like suck this instance more because there's so many people who think that the answers are going to come from the top but what you're saying is really they're going to come from the from the little places where people have secret conversation. Yes and yeah no. I i think this is right. You talk about in this article. You talk about the idea of the remnant which is an idea that you get from isaiah and i wanna plug your is your translation of isaiah and Which was the work of years. it's on a website. Called rejoice dash evermore dot com. That's first of all. The translation is wonderful and fascinating but in each each chapter you give a little homily at the end and there's just my favorite parts of my day reading your homily but in isaiah. There's this idea that israel has fallen into sin and has gone down the whole but there will be this remnant that will return and rebuild the country. And you talk about that. That's what we're looking for now that we're in such disarray and we are in disarray. That this what's that going to look like with you to give me three adjectives. I mean to put you to the test. But i mean what what would they be. I mean young based in track. No folks want to get a handle on this idea. I would commend them to old. Atlantic monthly essay called is as job. It's about what's the job of the prophet right and you can just google it and find it online and the idea is you know prophets. It's not unique to isaiah prophets. Come up in times of decadence times of decay. A lot of them are speaking about before or during the babylonian exile which was the final catastrophe came after i after the israelites. Elite had kind of abandoned. The faith had abandoned the old ways. You know Then there came sweeping this terrible disastrous oppression from from foreign nations and the profits were raised up to to tell about this and to prepare people for how god was going to lead them back to the ancient truth so the remnant are basically the guys that are there for the profit to speak to. The prophet is born to speak to these people who still believe in the ancient divine truth and those include things just as basic as like there is right and wrong and isaiah says about the elite that they call good evil and evil good. Which of course is everywhere right. We see this all the time up his down black white men or women. All of these things right. I mean that that was as much a part of isaiah's society as it is a part of ours and so the remnant or even just those people who haven't the knee and cheap part of one of the key parts about them is that you don't know who they are or where they are prophets and this is emphasizing this as the profits. Think that they are speaking into this void and sometimes they think that that all is lost they despair but in fact says god i know every one of them is out there and so yeah who are hours well there. Is this kind of idea. I feel like in conservative world that to be the remnant what you do is you cling to like the reagan era. You cling to libertarian market principles. And you go out with you lose every political fight you can if needs must but this is a terrible mistake. I think when you look at the remnant in isaiah and they're always described as new they're always described seedlings or the things that are growing up out of this wreckage. And so actually. What the remnant are the people who go back to those attrnal truth. The not the reagan era but the founding right and the ancient the classic inspire the and so these things these these notions of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness rightly understood that of independence that constitutional liberties those are gonna get reborn in ways that we can't even foresee we can't imagine because it's everything is changing. You know i've been talking about something on my show the grapefruit i call the great forgetting that which is the idea that the progressives think. They're progressing but they're actually regressing. They think they're progressing to post christian era but they're actually regressing to a pre christian or they're shedding things that made western culture the greatest culture this ever existed on earth and the european culture the greatest culture that's ever existed and they're forgetting it..