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176 - The Autumn Specter

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176 - The Autumn Specter

"Title Jeffrey. Craner here happy spooky month and if you're listening before October twenty ninth, let me say Happy Ghost Stories livestream month. That's right tech. Yeah. We're doing a livestream of our welcome tonight bill live show of Ghost stories on October twenty, nine, th at eight pm Eastern tickets are what you want starting at five bucks. You'll get to see soul and disparition as always with special guest appearances by make bash when they're symphony sanders, how Lublin Merrin and Molly Quinn more information and tickets can be hat welcome tonight Ville Dot. com on life shows, and if you're in a spooky book reading mood, I strongly recommend the novel the faceless old woman who secretly lives in your home. It is about well a faceless old woman who secretly lives in your home. It's about her birth, her family, her tragedies, her travails, her high seas adventures, and her plot for revenge. 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MOCHA back into my announcer voice new episodes of hello from the magic tavern or out every Monday wherever you get your podcast go listen I promise. It's awesome. You'll totally love it. I show people all around C antiquites. My guests engaged I like to sprinkle in a fun factor to. Dupont circle also here's a lifestyle tip for you try apple pay. You can now just tap with your phone or watch to get on the bus or train all over the DC area azure smart trip to the Apple Wallet then just have to ride apple pay on iphone. Now arriving on Metro, looking for an escape from the world we live in me to well this October every single Harry Potter film is free. Yes that's free on peacock. Peacock has thousands of hours of hit movies and shows including all eight movies from the Harry Potter World Revisit Daniel Radcliffe and Emma, Watson and of course, Rupert, grint and remember what it. was like to have a movie transport you somewhere else I think we could all use that right now and then hey, see what else peacock has to offer because man there is so much waiting to watch on their all eight movies are available for free on peacock the streaming service from NBC Universal signed up at Peacock TV dot com to stream now. Lips. Or the toes of the face Welcome to Night Vale. It's Halloween again, night, fail my favorite day of the year. As a kid, my mother used to dress my sister abby and I up in homemade costumes and take store door vaguely threatening our neighbors until they gave us candy. When I was a teenager, I, got a little old for trick or treating. So I started going to haunted houses with my friends. A lot of those haunted houses were kind of predictable with all their chainsaw killers and Victorian ghost children, singing nursery rhymes who would follow you home and sing by your bed for months afterwards but they always got to me I loved the emotional rush of being scared. I. Still Do of course, I don't go out much to haunted houses, but I still love good old fashioned scary stories. I thought today would be a great day to share some of my favorites with you. I had my new intern James put together a few spooky tales that are perfect for putting you in the Halloween mood. But first, let's have a look at the community calendar. This Saturday night at the new old Bill Opera House is the annual costume gala. This event is the opera houses largest fundraiser and one of the most prestigious costume contests in the region. A panel of judges will be on hand to determine the best costume at the ball. Last. Year's winners were Joel Eisenberg and his partner Dante Jimenez. In tandem outfit of a stegosaurus. There listeners and it was impressive. The creature was so realistic looking. The craftsmanship of the costume was top notch but listen I have to confess I'm always more into high-concept creativity rather than realistic details when it comes to costumes like I remember the twenty fifteen gala when. I came dressed up as the concept of on we. She made herself twelve feet tall dressed in tope long coat and created a constant drizzling rain inside the ballroom. Anyone who looked at her got super set and wanted to hug. But Jolan Danny, stegosaurus was fine. Sunday afternoon is the fall craft sale in Old Town Night Vale, and inscrutable as of stalls showcasing the finest products from our towns. Artisans there will be cultural events for children, finger painting classes, puppet shows, and a visit from the autumn Specter. The Autumn Specter returns it comes to collect its crops with it's great and sharp sickle. It will harvest every ripe. So in night Knightdale the. Specter is. It is October and it is time to fee. Hey James this community counter doesn't seem right. It's just a bunch of stuff about the specter also this font size, what what is this thirty two point that's just much too large and it's printed in red ink and that is a waste of our color toner. James you do this red ink is still really damp. Okay plus there's nothing about start and end times of the craft fair or anything about the food trucks like if the autumn Specter is Hungary's surely wants full awful or Korean barbecue or Tacos j James could you just Redo the story? James. James. Well. Listeners. I don't know where James Went I can hear him breathing. But I don't see him anywhere. Yep It's fine. Let's just get onto our first spooky story. One quiet moon this night not long ago and not so far away. A teenage girl sat in a house that was not her own. It was the home of Tony and Sheila McDowell the girl was their babysitter. And she had just put the two young Dowell children down to sleep. The Girl Watch TV alone in the dark living room only the bluish flicker of scary movie illuminating her face. The phone rang abrupt at loud startling her she raised the receiver to our year. Hello She said with a slight quiver. Of you checked on the children. Came, raspy? Voice. The babysitter ran quickly upstairs opening the door of the kid's bedroom she flipped on the light and there they were. Sleep. She went back to her movies but the phone rang again. Checked on the children off. King the same voice only more sinister. The babysitter. Hurried upstairs opened the door turned on the light and saw the children's still asleep. The caller cold again. and. Again. And again. Have, hugh shocked all Geel to. The babysitter. So scared barely able to move hung up the phone before the voice could finish gets repeated. When the phone rang once again, she answered and shouted stop calling me. But this time it was a different voice. The person on this occasion said Ma'am, this is the police we've traced the call. The call is coming from inside the House get out get out. The babysitter panicked and started to run. But then she remembered she never called the police. How would they know to even trace the call? So she cramped fearfully upstairs to the children's room. And the phone was ringing again the clamoring bell naiding fright and she cracked open the door and she saw. She saw the young McDowell boy is little brother, Dover, a phone and giggly. They were cranking her. And she felt relieved. But embarrassed. And she told them to stop fooling around and go to sleep. And they all shared a good laugh. Let's have a look now at traffic. Okay well, I don't seem to have a traffic reports from intern James also, James isn't here right now because I sent him out to go pick up lunch of. Hey James Stimpson wait why are you standing in the control booth you're supposed to get lunch and also I've asked you a couple of times not to wear that burlap bag over your head mean yes it looks great with the Jackal lantern face onto it I mean the mouth is a bit lopsided and the is are a tad uneven. kind of flat an emotionless but all in all, it's cool look. But it's decidedly not allowed in station management's dress code. Oh. You're holding a knife to so did you get? The George at that lunch then will if that the if that's the case, you don't need to cut my sandwich and half I'll take it whole and also I, need that traffic report. Thanks. Dame's. What are you waiting for? The Autumn Specter to do it for you. Hop to it. James Well. While, James is working on that. Let's get back to my favorite spooky Halloween stories. This one isn't a story so much as a fun Halloween. Gay. The Legend of Bloody Mary. According to the law if you turn off all the lights and stare into a mirror repeating. letty married three times in a row. She will appear and tear your face off. I've never tried this because I don't own any mirrors, but my husband cordless conducted this very experiment in his silence lab. He said he talked the room and repeated the name and nothing happened for a long time. But Then a figure of a woman appeared silvery gray and Shimmering and she. Carlos. Slowly. Her hollow white is never blinky. She brought her face only inches from Carlos and said. Are you for real? And Carlos said yes. He was indeed. Real. And Bloody Mary said Okay because this time of year I just got up bunch of giggling screaming teenagers and I'm really tired of a ripping off their faces for no pay whatsoever. And cordless gave her some resources for starting a union and she thanked him and she offered to tear his face off in exchange for the consulting but call us at no he liked his face and wished Your Luck Night Vale. Hey you're malevolent spirits. They're overworked especially around Halloween and a twenty percent gratuity for poltergeists. PHANTASM 's revenue and ghosts is standard. And now for. What the? Weight Okay you know I thought Intern James handed the traffic report to me but this is just a piece of parchment with a nine pointed star seemingly drawn by a finger dripped in blood. And then there are a series of ancient rune scrawled along the outer edges. Now, I took a runic in college I mean most of my friends took Spanish as their language but I thought living here in the American southwest, it would be more useful to studies ancient, Scandinavian, and Germanic vets, and from what I can make out. These are message about the return of the Autumn Specter. Walk Right okay. I love that intern James Loves Halloween and whatever this autumn Specter is in fact, James is still in the break room right now, constructing a sacred todo out of ash tree branches and twine, and he's been muttering to himself all day in a language that I don't recognize and the only words I can understand our autumns specter. But I still have neither my traffic report nor my lunch. Way. Do, you think James's. Na-. Put it out of your mind. Uil. Let's tell another spooky Halloween story. There once was a beautiful young woman who wore a green ribbon around her neck. She won the affection of a handsome young man they fell in love and one day the boy asked the girl why she always wore a green ribbon around turn deck. She would not tell him. One day the man and the woman were to become husband and wife into her white bridal dress. The woman's still wore her green ribbon. The man asked her on their wedding night if he could untie the green ribbon but even on the most intimate of evenings she said, no. And he respected her answer. But he longed to know what she was hiding behind the ribbit. Through years. The man asked the wife again about the ribbon, but she never removed it. Nor answered his questions about it. She only warned him that he would not like what he saw if she were to remove it. He asked less and less, but his curiosity through. Group. And they became old. Very old and they knew their time left was short. The man asked one more time. My. Dearest wife. Love of my life. Tell me that I may remove the green ribbon from around net. And the old woman said, my adoring groom here in our room after all these many years. Yes, you may. But I cautioned you as I have many times before. That you shall not like what you're is behold. The man hesitated. But finally reached his e-content wrinkled fingers to the green bow along nick. And he tentatively. The ribbon and suddenly it unfurled balling from her neck and the man gasped. Upon her neck was a series of ornate letters spelling out goth life. The woman said. I got this tattoo in high school but kind of outgrew it and it's super. IMBERA saying. And the man replied he had his first. Sure. Weird. But also, pretty cool. Like. And she never wore the green. Again. You listeners I'd love to bring you that traffic report but right now I'm facing something much more urgent and more dire my studio door has opened on its own and as I turned around I could see down the long faintly lit corridor of our offices And at the end of the hallway stance of figure, and he wears a Jack Lantern Mask his head. To one side like a guessing question or like a hanged man were both and it is intern. James and he holds a long knife and he walks he walks slowly toward me and he is speaking at first in mutter but now louder restrained shout in an obscure tongue magician casting a wicked spell and he is moving much faster toward me like a limping run. His Blade is raised high and James is not an intern Night Vale But the Autumn Specter itself come to wreak my soul. But? Let me take to the weather. It's little. Smile also. Dues. Box. In Fragment. The food that started pain. blocked. To small stage. Swansong. Should've see me. Grab. Your. Walk. She slept. Second time in his. Study. Bag. stage. She. May. She made. Cookie entrance just in. Enhanced. Swansong. Shoot a scene. And it's. Also A Who? Calls have. Laws numbers. Financed. Swansong. Shit AC-. Long. Jaeger fall in grant. The. So during the weather I went to human resources and requested a file on intern James. Oh. I'm fine by the way and James is not the autumn Specter, but I'll get to that. So I found a copy of James's resume cover letter for the position of radio station intern, his application was originally submitted in eighteen forty five. That's almost two centuries ago eggs claimed but according to HR, they're pretty backlogged on the intern. APPS. What are you GonNa do we get to them when we get to them? They said from the bottom of their abandoned well. Paper. Clipped to James's application was a wrinkled and yellow news clipping from the night Phil. Daily Journal and the article says that genes died on Halloween night in eighteen forty nine when he was hit by a train. I then went to the whole public records and found that our radio station was built in eighteen fifty atop the very train tracks were chains medicine end. James's so has been wandering the halls and offices of our radio station ever sense. For All James Ever wanted was to be a radio inter to serve the listening community to lift high the voice of journalistic. Truth. And it was his death that led to the shutdown of those train tracks and the eventual construction of new station home and the building we still use now. So I was wrong about James he was an intern after all and not a malevolent. Halloween spirit. But I was right that the autumn Specter had come for me. For when I turn to see chains running down the hall, I did not notice the Autumn Specter behind me with its bony hands and scarecrow mouth and I did not notice it soul reaping sickle, which it had raised high above its oversized head and stick thin body. And James had given his life for the building of our radio station and in-depth. gave his soul for the very same cause. And James Threw himself upon the autumn Specter and he tried to stab the spectres neck and chest, but it did it did nothing. And the Specter pushed James Aside and then turned its black coal is upon me and it raised its curved blade once again and swung. I tried to duck. Goes to slow. And just as the sickles edge reached my face James Dove in front of it and vanished in a burst of white flame. Struck. and. The room was empty and the autumn Specter was gone to. To the family and friends of intern James he was. An Okay Intern Not, always on top of his writing deadlines, but he literally sacrificed his soul for a radio station. I can't bring you a traffic report today but I will live to bring you one tomorrow. If we find a new inter. And HR tells me that we have hundreds of candidates although most of them are not yet aware that they are candidates. State do next for our new cooking competition show flay bobby flay. And it's always. Good night, Night Vale good night. 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859: Magento Imagine 2019 - Gary Specter

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19:20 min | 1 year ago

859: Magento Imagine 2019 - Gary Specter

"Welcome to the tank bloke writer podcast, your guy to future Tech Trends and innovation in a language. You understand now over to your host Neal Hughes. Welcome back to the tech blog Greider podcast. And first of all, huge apology for going rogue on you'll I'm afraid Fama self in court on the plane ride home. I think for the first time I flirted with burner after trying to do too much in a short space of time. So I walked away from my laptop for a few days and went for a few walks in the countryside. Swam in the cold see a north Devon here in the UK, and also had a three day digital data. Well, I didn't stay a screen for the entirety of my bright. And man, I've gotta say feel so much better now, so normal service has been resumed, and I will be editing and publishing all my podcast from the last week, he will and get them over. To you. Now, I do get to cover many tech events all over the world and last week. I did see two I one Gary specter entered the state for a keynote popping transported from underneath the stage like a rockstar and also Jason wisely. I saw him fly on stage like a rockstar to magenta certainly know how to put a rock and roll into an event but wasn't style over substance. That was a lot of great things to talk about. And it was clear that the community needed assurance of their all, especially now magenta is an Dombi company, and they got just that so book up and hold on tight. So I can be me is all the way back to the US. So we can speak with Gary specter VP of commerce sales and customer success. An experienced business. So massive. Warm, welcome to the show. Gary Kenny, tell the listeners little about who you are. And what you do or so Neil, thanks for having me. My name is Jerry specter had I am responsible for all the field teams at magenta. What that means is all of the teams that are customer facing are teams that I support in, I did that prior to magenta becoming part of the DOD in. It's what I do now now that we are part of adobe not Jason was on here last week last time I saw him. He was flying food. Yeah. Let's tell you go you flying the onto of the stage to deliver a keynote that's going to be the best stage entrance. You have a dumb surely. Yeah, it was it was a lot. It was a lot of fun made me feel a little bit like a rockstar, I didn't get a float through the air, but coming up through the stage was just as exciting certainly made me feel like a little more than just the tech guy. What if the social media trending hashtags around imagine twenty nine team this year? Was hashtag road to imagine an even joy to fantastic career. But can you share a little about your road to imagine wake saw adieu about event, and we're exhorts you about it every year? So what I love about out. Imagine is that one person detained. I love that. It comes right in the middle of the year or a little bit earlier than the middle of the year. It gives us an opportunity to take a look back and see what we've done well over the past couple of months, and where we can adjust in tweak to better in the remainder of the year. But I think the thing that excites me most about imagine is getting together with the community. There's so much passion that revolves around magenta in the brand new can't help to get excited about the event, and you come away or at least I come away from imagine with this renewed sense of feeling like I'm part of something bigger than just move. Gento and it really excites. You in excites me, it gives me energy propels me throughout the, the rest of the year because I know that this broader community is so up and excited to see to see what we're gonna do over the next seventy months. So it's, it's really the thing that gets me motivated, it just this community that participates event. And I think that passion really came across not only just everyone is spoke with in across all the holes that, but also I you'll K, no and indeed the, the other thing that's since been taken over by Dobie. There was concern in some call as about what that would mean for the community. But that, that message was clear Jason, although she yelled out towards the end of one of these K, not just the importance of that community and serving those small to medium sized companies as well as those low jen's bras. Yeah. I think that adobe understand how important the community is. And, you know, one of the things that really has always drawn to me to magenta is that it's such a differentiator. I don't think that this type of community exists anywhere in technology, or even outside of technology. It is clearly something that makes magenta unique and it is clearly something that I think, is a competitive advantage for us, not a few years ago. I think it was obvious that set the last best experience, that anyone has anywhere becomes the minimum expectation for the experiments, they won't everywhere now join the imagine event of self closing the curtains and switching on the law in the hotel room, the win, but just asking Alexa, and I quickly realized is more no expectation, I'm going to judge every hotel room by in the future. So perfectly Honda to me at least at the experience economy, so much more than a buzzword. I mean, our you helping customers create experiences at magenta. So no, I think that you're spot on. And I think that the way. Hey, that we are communicating with the brands that we shop is changing and our expectations around these experiences are changelings, so everything from being able to look across a brand whether that's through stores on, on websites through third parties like Amazon, or whatever it may be. I think that our customers are looking to create eight the best experiences for their customers from start to finish. So it's no longer about a single transaction. It's really about their entire customer journey and not involves everything, whether that's a are VR, people that are shopping for furniture, for example, to take a piece of furniture and put it in a picture of their home to see how it looks reality. Whether that's using a and your your some of the unconscious decisions that you make like amount of eggs in your refrigerator. Noses to place, the order on different types of technique. Gee, that in a Immel us to allow our customers to create these unique experiences with their Browns. I think that's becoming the norm. And part of that is being able to leverage cross channel communication. So biking communicate with the brand whenever I want, and where ever I want, whether that's the phone, computer. Kiosks distort doesn't matter. My experience doesn't change. They know who I am. They know the things that I like to shop for. And I have the ability to transact in any way that I want at any time that I want. I think that's going to become. That is our new one of the best things about attending any event. Would it be the adobe so may all the magenta imagine event is surrounded by so many of your customers, and you think about the kind of problems in challenges facing so you must have had a lot of conversations, have I missed. So I'm curious what are the biggest challenges and opportunities that businesses are experiencing right now? And coming to you and asking you for help with. I mean any trends around the talk of questions. People are asking you. Yeah. I think there's two the first is, you know what I would call order management or the back end. Right. So being able to leverage stores as, as warehouses or, or having a single view of inventory, so that you can do things like ship shift to store or ship from store, giving customers the flexibility to receive the things that they're ordering in any fashion that they want while you're leveraging your entire inventory system as opposed to just warehouses, where things exist on the backend. I think that's the biggest not on the front in any companies are really figuring out or want to figure out how to treat this these specialized curated experiences for their customers on the front end. And one of the things that's really exciting to me about magenta in Dobie is now that worked combined Marciel company. You know, I used the phrase it imagine that your palate, just got infinitely bigger and because. Of the things that magenta dozen things that adobe does marrying them together. I think the types of experiences that you can create on the Fronton in addition to how you deliver experience on the back end, really broadens the things that we can do. And I think those are the two things that at least the trends that I'm seeing is, you know, one around the order, orchestration on the back end in the second is how do we create really effective curated personal journeys on the front end of our or experience with the brand, another, also any trends around exactly's, working, particularly well at the moment that you're saying an adult Ingle companies head of the curve in the spice is anything in particular doing really? Well, yeah, I think companies that are executed in on a unin Omni channel or multi channel, you know, they're on the cutting edge of, of how they service their customers, and I think that it's working particularly well when a company is really. Able to execute on a multi channel strategy so that again, people can Shaw from anywhere at any time and expect a great experience from beginning to end. Those are the duct de trend that I see being the most effective right now and companies that are able to make it work are seeing great results from, if we look across the digital lump Skype moment, daas buying a lot of hype around voice search, but from what I've been reading just have a few conversion issues. I think of it somewhere that only two percent of Amazon echo uses site. They've actually used that device to purchase something for bay personally off on particularly Exxon and he's, especially in ecommerce is visual. Search and was a great chemo. Ashore, imagine where you could take a picture of a hat, for example, in it was show you how to buy the exact same hat seamlessly. You know, any trends or any excitement around visual? Search I am, and it's hard not to get excited about all we will search if you've if you've ever had an opportunity to use it or leverage it. No, as, as companies are creating apps for it. It's pretty exciting. It makes it really easy to find things online that you're looking, or now, the trick will be as a brand. How do I harness that and guide those people that are leveraging visual search back to my site? But that, that's a problem that will get solved soon enough. But yeah, I think that's one of the next big things that are coming down. The pike is is. How do you leverage that technology in create visual? Search to drive people to your site or to your brand, and drugged, his really just seem that traditional text by searching voice search in visual search, I think that old gonna play a role in the bulk tinge strategy of every business out there. But how do you see taking shape any insights that you can share from a customer or a business perspective? Yeah. I think the trick is gonna be, how do I leverage those technologies and, and pull traffic, specifically to my site? Right. So it to your point if you're looking at hot, you know, I want those people that are looking for that hat to go to my hat, not one that looks like my so. I think that's sort of where things are they now, people are trying to understand or figure out how to make that happen because it's incredibly valuable and you can draw so much traffic to your site. So, I think people are looking to actively solve that problem as we speak, one of the big talk lines of the magenta, imagine event was expand your perspective expand your knowledge and expand the experience. So I've got to ask, I'll think I'll say, but what was the key message? You wanted everybody to take home from imagine. Twenty nine hundred whether they were in Vegas what she McCain streaming the event unwilling Otis following the new stories on social media. What was that key message that you wanted to deliver yet for me? The biggest message was that a given where we are in our, our time. Now magenta being part of the Jobe, we have so many more things that we can do. Right. Like I said earlier, like color palette on a lot figure so the content. That we can now leverage create these personalized experiences. Those are things that we couldn't do when it was just magenta. You had to invest in other types of technologies analogy Dobie magenta together allows that to happen. So, you know, expand expanding your knowledge, or experience really comes around when when, when we talk about leverage, the power, what adobe magenta bring you together because it's far broader than what you had as two separate companies and it's an opportunity, whether you're a partner or a developer, or a customer or prospect, you now have this opportunity to do so much more than you could've prior to these two great companies coming together, and for me that is the key message that I want people to take away that there is now so much more you can do out and explore it in and leverage. This broader palette that we now have heard spoke. Nonetheless shit. I tend to the magenta law event in Europe which was in Barcelona of blown away by, I think it was on maidens, Bruce Dickinson to never thought, provoking Keno, that was equally and -taining too, and certainly made me think differently about things on the way home. So I'm curious has it been any conversations? You've heard this year of accelerated, you or maybe even challenge you to think about things differently, or keynote this year was Gary the I'm not going to butcher his last name. He he had a lot of what I thought were interesting ways to think about marketing. And I loved that part of. Imagine end up particular speaker. But I also enjoyed hearing from the different CEO's that we had that were speaking about some of the experiences that they had on their brands and it clear that people are really thinking differently and, and trying to get creative about how they connect with people, whether they're a brand or or, or marketing engine, and I, I love that generational -i the different types of avenues that we have to communicate including social have changed the way that, that we that we have traditionally gone out to try to build market share. And I think that was the thing that was most exciting to me. It's the thing that I love about commerce is it's never static. Right. And you said earlier conversation that you knew expectations become sort of low bar, and I think that's true in marketing as well. And I love hearing, how people are rising to that. Challenge, and how they're changing their approaches as technology and generations, and social media changes the way that we interact with each other. And with the brands that we, we fired on. I think one of the things that really stood out to the event. And like we've said a few months ago is yes. Magenta is now an adobe company, but the punishment unwelcoming night, two of the magenta community and open source, spirit, east L Braun burning brightly. I mean, he's not something as important to adobe to do you think yes, it is. I think one of the things that people don't realize Dobie had a component of open source to it prior to magenta, but I think they've now seen the power of what this open source community brings to magenta in their embracing it. And I see that across adobe. It's a it's an exciting time. I think adobe sees this as another opportunity to q for enhanced how they compete in market, and I think they will continue to not just support. But. Leverage. What magenta has done and how we've built this community and an extent use it to extend inside of other areas of adobe. So I think it's incredibly important to an makes you coast. Imagine twenty twenty is going to be room along saw at the adobe. So that's going to be blown hell of apo- isn't it could be huge? Yeah. I can be it's going to be it will be big and what I'm really excited for, you know, to have two great aunt's like the side by side gives a lot of people, you know, they'll have the ability to go back and forth. And, and, and learn from two different types of, of events going on, at the same time that have a lot of synergy together. So I'm I'm super excited to see what we can do in twenty twenty with this with this level tastic. Well, a annot high incredibly busy, you must be you must be back to back me, ins not to mention keynotes notes and a few days in Vegas already appreciate you taking the time from your busy, schedule to come and speak with me today. So. Thanks again. Gary. But, but can we on tonight show? Great. Neil thing that having spent a few days in the company of the magenta family all too. I thinking, yes magenta is an adobe company now but they still have maintained their values and their culture, especially around their community on this show. We often talk about the importance of technology, but people community that is what builds success. And for me, it was a nice timely reminder of the important things in life because I cannot, thank Gary for taking the time to come in spite with me today, but plays if you event streamed online or just following you on social media. Let me know your souls on everything that you heard viewed and read Boston. 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Is This Bitcoins Swansong?  The Countdown to Correction or Bull Market 2.0?

Breaking Bitcoin (Audio)

2:03:42 hr | 1 year ago

Is This Bitcoins Swansong? The Countdown to Correction or Bull Market 2.0?

"BITCOIN has largely paused in its Barish sent over the last twelve hours showing low volatility lack of momentum and and the indecisiveness of a teenage me trying to choose between final fantasy six and krono trigger are we witnessing bitcoins coins two thousand nine hundred nine Swansong and must we descend further and further into the belly of the beast before we find the shot spot. If you will to rise again or is it possible that we can find the silver lining of silver linings and that Valhalla is just beyond the other hill in the midst of this turbulence Venezuela makes another case for Bitcoin we discussed the merits of central bank issued stable coins and is a theory him the best model model for money. The world has ever seen find out in today's exciting episode of Breaking Bitcoin. 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I don't know if you guys are aware sometimes live streaming his heart. We have a new indicator to talk about today. this is an indicator that I have not released yet. This is perilux now. It's not as here's the thing in the realm of indicators there are two approaches the first approach which I have gotten into more and I think that more people will get into as they progress with using objective technical indicators and that is you know we want to understand how indicators are programmed. We want to understand their logic. We want to understand the maths. We want to make sure that everything balances and that's absolutely fine but then the way that I it was for many years is I did not care. I was just looking for indicators. I didn't care if they were measuring the length of Ca- through loose tentacles or the volatility of an asset or the differentiation in price the relative strength of price if you will I did not care for many years I didn't care and I was still a consistently profitable trader so the way that this indicator works is by measuring. It's called perilux because it measures to parallel aspects of price. They are two different relative relative momentum states was measuring waxing momentum one is measuring waning momentum and then there is an algorithm that pits them against each other and whichever is dominant in any point in time time is the overall direction of the trend this can be utilized in two ways. This can be an initiator. This can be a confirm. This can even be a baseline. It just depends on however you you would like to utilize yes. That's right. A baseline does not have to be something that goes on your chart. It just most typically is now if we just take a look at this nice beautiful baby right here we I can see that with few exceptions even if we screw back on the daily yes it kind of looks like my heart rate sometimes after a few cups of coffee you'll notice right there. Okay is perilux the Green Lanterns arch enemy. I don't really know I just you know I have this kind of penchant for picking names out of a random orifices and then they tend to work but anyways I digress this indicator is very not sub ah very very very nuts what's the word I'm looking for. Come on words. Come to me not subject to a lot of chop. It's very clean I it's very technical it measures the overall trend and with very few exceptions it does not give many false signals and that is really what you want out of a trending indicator. You do not want want it to be a flipping on you and giving you a ton of divergent signals in a range so I just want to point your attention in this particular instance to the range so bitcoin obviously do we know topped on June twenty six two thousand nineteen and then it entered into a long consolatory range which we just broke down from over the last few days of course we talked about that but and you you can see that we only flipped direction this trend we are obviously long and this gave us the long signal on the thirteenth of June and had us in a long trade and then did not have out of along long or looking to go short until the twenty ninth of June two thousand nine hundred so you wanna be using this you know with an exit indicate or something. That's a little bit more sensitive but of course that is a good capture of the Trent better than a lot of people that and you can see that with very few exceptions that only trend flips you about four times maybe five times throughout this entire trending area. Ah opposed to something that is more sensitive something like Manx we were we do flip quite frequently where we flip about seven or eight times so it's it's less sensitive and it is it is is better for determining the overall trend than I think once I get this release. There's a few there's no the code is fine. There's no logical errors in the code. That's always the the difficulty in taking an indicator that I might use an isolation and then making not available from us is ensuring. There's no logical errors in the code that everything processes correctly and then kind of the difficulty comes from making it user friendly so adding alerts adding visual alerts on the screen for example sometimes bar coloring although I think I'm going to be trying to steer away from that with future implementations because the way the training view works when you start incorporating bar coloring if you start incorporating multiple indicators on your chart that are all trying to color bars for some reason trading. You just has a seizure and doesn't really like that on so I get a lot of complaints like hey. This bar is coloring wrong. I'm like we'll do you have another indicator. You're on your chart that has also attempting to bar caller. I can't fix that that is trading these problem us going to have to just going to have to contact rating view support and tell them the program there Pine Cook Better but I digress. It's still probably the best that we have and it's going to be the most commonly used tool for most people because what do you use Meta trader. Hell no okay wax on wax off moving right along. Let's talk about the queen's personal and so just to highlight paradox here. we do have a short signal coming in on the eighth of September and again yes that name is subject to change. Maybe perilux little silly. I kinda like it so you know and I made needed so whatever eight the September we do get the short signal from paradox and it does keep a short not giving us any flipping now of course we did notice over here that it will take a little bit of of inverse momentum for it to flip for for it to flip direction. That is a very m one landi. I think I got thanks so much for the sub on Youtube over there welcome to the community now. Here's the thing when we're looking at bitcoin price. I'll just give you guys in update on what I did last night. At the daily Aley closed I did go ahead last night and I closed. I closed my bitcoin short. So my full risk short is now completed. I was able to capture a little bit more than fifty percents in Prophet actually of this overall movement to the downside and that's because of scaling out as I said you're never going to realistically capture sure the breadth of a movement and that's okay as well as I was also short on the dollar pair for us in now. I'm not saying that I think we're going to bounce from here but there are several things that I just think it's probably a logical area. I looked at the chart I looked at everything that's going on and I felt quite happy with the profits that had gotten from this and I do feel that it is time to go ahead had and scale a completely out of my DC USD short now I am still hedge so I still don't have any long exposure. I don't think that it's appropriate at this point meantime to be picking tops and bottoms as you guys know on this channel I do not like picking tops and bottoms. I think that that is the worst thing that one can do and while there are reversals that I we'll trade they are not the types of reversals that you have probably been led to believe are the profitable types of reversals. You do not pick tops and bottoms. When you pick tops awesome bottoms you are entering into manipulated water's right that is the realm of scam wicks that is the realm of very tricky money-management because the propensity unseated have one stop loss hit becomes becomes very problematic becomes very problematic so don't like to pick tops and bottoms? There are reversals that work better than others don cannon thank you so much for the twenty krones my good friends and he says how looking all gussied up today just for you baby. I put this on just for you. It's actually been wall since I wore my hoddle shirt so I wanted to wear the hoddle shirt right here and just kind of convey the idea that even with all of the negative price decline even with all of the negative price decline still very very much a strong believer in Bitcoin. I do have a lot of conviction that we will see much uh-huh higher bitcoin prices given the market plenty of time to work itself out as an investor in Bitcoin as an investor a few with many many exceptions but few other other crypto currencies. I do have quite a lot of faith in the industry otherwise this would not be the breaking bitcoin show this would be the breaking precious metals for X. End Stocks show almost like the need to say bitcoin on there for some reason right so anyways by the way. Let me know how you guys like the intro screen. I did make that this morning so positive reviews are helpful many ways so I did close i. I don't have a full risk exposure to the downside. I'm still hedge so if price does move down I won't lose any money. I just won't make as much money as I would like to now now we did. I think it's probably the best to start off today with looking at what are indicators are saying so. Let's go over to mix. Of course I and we can see here. That's on today's candle. Close minks will be curving back up into static. This is going to be an early exit signal so this does justify my decision a little bit of course I did pull the trigger a little bit early but minks is now confirming that movement of course when we do move from below the static level into the static level so when we cross the noise line when things crosses the noise line that is going to be an early exit signal that is telling us there is a good potential to see converse movement in this case that would be movement to the upside and of of course. I'm not really taking the wicks into account for I know a lot of people are looking at that. you know obviously what we what we see when price is at a low bottom area. We often do see a lot of wicks but the reality with that is is you see a lot of wicks anyways with Beck when you see a lot of wicks anyways so I don't really think really think and why do you see a lot of wicks wicks with bitcoin because of volatility because it is a low overall compared to other assets. It is a low liquidity asset so there's just literally no way to get away from the wicks. It's impossible to way from the wicks and now we do have still from a water tar explosion. We do still have negative momentum to the downside so this is still telling you you're good to go. Volume is okay to the downside so should we get another signal to the downside a continuation signal continuation signal be like well that would happen if this line right here goes from appear to back below. Oh the static level so something like this if thanks does cross back below the noise level than that is going to be a continuation signal and I would be looking to resort because that would be for me a a movement a little bit lower down to that seventy four hundred or potentially even the sixty four hundred dollar level as I've talked about now. I don't want you to looking at the daily chart. I I do have this line right here. This upper green line that has nothing to do with daily support and resistance that has nothing to do with daily supply and demand levels so that is of course I was plotting out the intraday patriots here on the fifteen minute timeframe radio plotting out the median of price action down here on the lower timeframes. We can actually see a few things here that I'm going to kind of reference here in just a little bit. We'll get to that the second so back to the daily. The only lines here that I think are Germane to talk about at this point in time when looking for bounce targets are going to be of course that seventy four thirty two. We did talk about that at length yesterday. Why is that an important area or why is that significant in any way shape or form because it is a logical long stop-loss area that is also if if we look back over here I would say the median of price action during the two thousand eighteen flooring phenomenon when we did find that bottom the floor of the price action in two thousand eighteen at around the six thousand dollar level so I'd say seventy four hundred is a good medium for that and so media are obviously important when we're looking at reversion to the mean in strategies and we can see the import of that of course we talked about this now it did only occur on daily candle but in two thousand and nineteen when we rose when we began the bull market in two thousand nineteen nineteen this was really the early stages of the Bull Market of course this is going to be made as after the significant breakout candle on the first of April but really the next significant bullish movement? We did hit that line right at seventy four thirty two. You can see that right there on this candle on the tenth of May we did hit that we did have a little bit of initial rejection and then we broke it that makes that area via a bullish breaker and we do have confirmation. If we just scroll over here sorry. Let's assume this out a little bit and we can see that breaker territory actually is coming in from that seventy four thirty two you too about the seventy two seventy maybe seventy three hundred dollar regions so that is going to be your breaker zone. We've talked about breakers before make sure to be a regular viewer for more information. Let's make picture there. Were odd okay so I think that's an important level and really you guys know that I'm not the biggest fan of trading in this method but when we're looking for support in a parabolic move and it's very difficult so we really don't have a lot to select from your and as I said you don't WanNa be calling tops and bottoms you WanNa be identifying key areas is of supply and demand because Bitcoin as an asset does respond to supply and demand I it's not S- you know it's not something like the FX markets where it's just completely prone to manipulation there's is no such thing as supply and demand but okay but we really have have slim pickings when we're looking for ounce targets here on our higher timeframes and against the seventy four thirty two logical stop-loss area it's where prices bounced around before we did break through that area retested as support once not twice and then kicked off the last parabolic movement of the two thousand nineteen bullish ascent so I think that's the logical area as well and you can just you see anytime I see something like this where I have a lot of lows that have not been rated so as you can see here. Here's the raid right and really it's not even a raid because there isn't there are other at stop losses place here. this is more of just a highly volatile re-test of that support level we break and then we retest and we end up closing right around that level spend one candle blow it but again. We're still in that overall breaker territory. I just don't have the Lower Green Line there. At that seventy two hundred dollar area you can see that we actually don't close below seventy two hundred on that candle. Are we closed around seventy to fifty eight. The low is actually seventy seventy two five the lows seventy five I can't but then we were off to the races. You know we have one brief fake out we comeback back bounce off that level and then there we go all right so I think that's the first area that I'll be keeping my on seventy four thirty to see if we can get a bullish reaction off that level and then of course kind of waiting for a good reversal signal or at least and then a little bit further out maybe looking for a not maybe but definitely looking for a trending signal so that would be my the primary indicator giving me a trend signal because trades are always the best to take on. That's GONNA probably take awhile because it's going to take a little bit for what Atar explosion to flip bullish again and I'm Gonna I need to see that to be taking a trending trade of the upside again. it's very difficult to be bullish on Bitcoin at this point in time and as I said you know calling tops and bottoms is not the way to go calling hauling both tops and bottoms is not the way to go bitcoin moves with such volatility that you don't have to take the risk of attempting to identify tops and bottoms. It is a fool's game. You're not going to do it. Nobody does it with with with even a close level of accuracy not for a very long period of time and when I say everyone I mean that ninety nine percent of people that are going to be a very small percentage of people plot there and I've met maybe two in my entire lifetime who have a just ridiculous ability to actually call tops and bottoms and this channel is for people who wanNA realistically trade and did not grow up Montessori so I really don't think that it's has anything to do with intelligence. I think that there are just a few people who are naturals and all kinds of things and and again I I would assume that that would be naturals. Predicting the future self made wounded hook them up to something like what's cerebral. We've got we found the Charles Xavier's of the world now moving on beyond that looking beyond that I don't see any support until down in the six thousand dollar area and I've made the case for that Multiple Times that's obviously obviously our point of control on the VR and of course that is going to be the floor of the two thousand two thousand eighteen consolidation period right right and interestingly enough. I think that there is quite a lot of significance you will find in crypto currency that often wicks go is very telling of where price wants to go and that Wick Nick that we had on that just that candle that I just observed here where we do end up breaking on this candle above that order block and then come down and test that zone that W- it goes all the way down to sixty one seventy eight weeks typically tell you where price wants to go where there's very large icebox iceberg order sitting in the order sitting in the orderbook whether they're hidden or not on typically weekly they're hidden. That's why they're called iceberg orders because you only see the tip of it very similar to my dating life now moving on we have that again. That's sixty one seventy eight we have that high volume not coming in right around sixty four hundred so I think if we do end up violating the seventy four hundred dollars area than I don't really see price stopping until the six thousand dollar areas that would be you now obviously beginning a trending signal to the downside or a continuation signals to the downside to reenter two more short exposure at that point in time but as it sits right now you have to know when when and you've gotten a good thing and obviously hitting about a twenty twenty plus percent trade on Bitcoin is a good thing hitting a forty plus percent on is a good thing. You have to be happy with that time I'm to close out. Take profit and wait for the next movement because again. We've seen these slowdown of momentum the other thing that is influencing decision as well as the fact that we are moving into the weekend weekends are typically quite bullish for Bitcoin and I don't really feel like sitting through the draw down and I'll wait until Sunday evening until the cms open backup and until the the forex markets open backup because that's typically quickly when we see movement because there's something that we need to talk about and I don't think we talk about enough we have we we are trading and because where where's the best place to start with. I thought it was married. No I am not married. I am a single human person I just have. I'm a single father. I am not married. I am a single father all right so now stop history there. We don't talk about this enough and I think this is really really really important to talk about because maybe this is something that you've never considered before and this is probably going to be because because you've never traded. FX markets foreign currency markets or ex and so when we talk about trading Bitcoin people assume who have not traded foreign currency markets that you are trading bitcoin against the dollar and the dollar is some static entity some static Tadic value and that Bitcoin always drives the bus right so people assume most people assume that I talked to assume that when they're looking at the bt CD USD USD chart when they're talking about price when they're charting price when they're taking things into account but bitcoin and anything related to Bitcoin Bitcoin News bitcoin events bitcoin manipulation tether whatever that those are the only things that Dr Price and I'm here to tell you that that's not true you have another currency Princi- in the equation you have bitcoin which is a currency and you have USD which is also a currency and currencies are are traded on the open market and appreciate or depreciate in value if you WanNa if you WANNA look at the value of the dollar some popular methods are going taking an amalgamation of what the dollar's value against all other foreign dollars and you can just see that rise in spike guys would like maybe I can make an indicator for that but I think that I don't think that that's you know that's just an interesting topic. You know I kind of challenge you guys without. I think if you WANNA be a trailblazer and I think if you WanNa have some leading indications John's on Bitcoin's price sometimes I think you need to stay on top of the foreign currency markets and I think you need to stay on top of world events. I don't think that it's necessarily bit coin news. That dramatically affects bitcoins price as much as people think that they do. I think that it is Global News. I think that it is equity news that influences price more because that is when the dollar caller will step in and drive the bus. If the dollar is now more valuable against other foreign currencies then you're probably going to see bitcoin to the dollar move down. If the dollar somehow lose suddenly loses value for example I think bitcoin did quite well with the with the trade war between China and the United States and I think that bitcoin has largely moved sideways and you know to to to to a degree I do kind of agree with Thomas Lee on this. I think there is an element here or bitcoin has moved sideways largely. Ah in part to the equities market moving sideways very low volatility from the equities market now of course Thomas Lee believes that we are going to see a large spike in the US equity markets and he thinks this is going to be good for Bitcoin. It's possible because he is kind of looking at the correlation in a different way and potentially this is less true on long you know so again. Let me qualify this a little bit. I think that for the larger bitcoin movements the larger trending bitcoin movements I think that that is largely tied to what's going on with Bitcoin but a lot of I would say not just intraday volatility because a lot of that's just market making but some of the micro swings and of course contributing orbiting some the macro swings as well but till degree than than than Bitcoin News I think that the the the dollar news and what's going on with the dollar is a herald of this so. I don't think it's a coincidence that you see bitcoin price. Dropping and of course there are technical reasons for this as well but I don't think it's a coincidence that you see bitcoin price dropping. When trump is kind of going you you know when when the information is coming out that U? S. China trade war might be coming to a close and that's a lot of strength the dollar of course you can see the you can see the Chinese Renminbi two dollar or devaluate because it did revaluate over or excuse me appreciate over the last little bit of time and ever since the news has come out that the China trade war might be coming to a conclusion the four the the FX markets have done some crazy shit especially with dollar pairs so trading dollar pairs are always very squirrelly they're. They're the pairs that that are the most difficult to trade for whatever reason precious metals less so but anyways I digress just laying low. Stop it all all right okay so moving on from that slight divergent topic. Let's look at a few other things below the thirty period don by all rights one it should be looking for shorts only however as I said risk off because minks crossed back into the static level and will be closing that way on the scandal unless for for some reason we see a significant down move and I don't think that's likely moving into the weekend moving. I think now obviously coming towards the conclusion of Friday so here in a couple of hours so around the three PM to five PM marker really the two to four PM Marker so probably right at the conclusion of the show maybe lasting for a couple flowers there is a higher propensity to see some energy fuck ary because that's just how Fridays tend to go you have the markets you have foreign currency markets closing down you have the cme me markets closing down and all of that occurs on Friday evening and then they opened back up on Sunday and they're closed for the weekend so no rest for the wicked because here on the crypto currency spot markets. We never get to take a day off but that's okay. We do take the weekend off. The show because family is important but we trade twenty four four seven twenty four seven because your sleep on Sundays now so I think to watch for just to repeat myself seventy four thirty two and sixty one seventy eight should that fail. What do I mean watch for see if those levels get hit see if we get some bullish price appreciation off of there and see if you're sensitive trending indicator start giving us enough so it's worth it's worth throwing the job for the long and then when you get the when you get the less sensitive turning indicator you can scale further into a more significant trade? We don't have anything whatsoever signaling along and we actually don't even have a cross up from our primary exit indicator right here. We don't have a cross up on time transformation now. We are getting our forth worth green dot of life. Just letting US know the price is oversold. Oversold is not as bullish indication especially when you're breaking out of trend typically that just means hey chill out the direction is to the downside but you should wait for about some. We'll see what happens. I would still overall be in the mode of looking for this to eventually hit one of these two targets but not in a straight line price doesn't move in a straight line down again confidence on this is about sixty forty right now but I do think that the more likely scenario is over the course. It's the weekend and perhaps progressing in the next week to see a little bit of consolidation and listen to what I'm going to draw now. This marker is not anywhere near what I think price might do. It's just an amalgamation consolidation and a little bit of a climb for the racist now. I'm not sure how high or how strong we will go potentially a re-test nine thousand maybe even ninety ninety three hundred we do have of of course our thirty period don sitting at ninety three forty one and so of course a movement from eight thousand to ninety three hundred is valid to trade even for a trend trader that's that's a that's a worthy trade to take and again call it what you will a reversal. If you want in that sense or a sensitive trending indication either way I think that's a valid trade to take and then we'll wait and see what with the reaction looks like off about level and potentially look to scale back into the short to eventually hit one of these targets but as it sits right now low exposure. I don't really like taking a lot lot of high risk trades on the weekends typically. If I do enter enter enter into any trades for the weekend they're low risk. I will say this old coins have been holding fairly strong a little bit of a mixed bag on this over these last few days of course they had a massive drop with bitcoin and unlike bitcoin they have recovered quite a bit against against some more than more than others but major's don't look too bad looking across the board so I would say that that party is likely coming to an end again. I think that once we see a a bullish move from bitcoin and I think it's quite possible that we see a green candle here on Saturday then all those all coins are going to lose their gains because they're trading against bitcoin and bitcoin price goes up their press goes down so I would be cautious on that. I would be looking to take profits on your coin. Trades guys grabbed any reversal trades off of you. Offer the lows. Maybe up five ten percent on some of these coins I would definitely look into scale that prophet out said a trailing stop loss or just movie. Stop loss to break even absolutely if not just closed at your positions because I think that party is likely to come to an end and it's not gonna be until next week where we get some strong definitive idea of is this going to be a movement back up to ninety three hundred and then it is sent down or is this because that is also a possibility so as I said the smartest thing for me to do and what actually did was just close. Wait be the patient sit on my hands and vacuum my house. Ergen says Bitcoin has been known to blow right through resistance cough six cake off. This is true. Okay okay. Let's go down to the lower timeframes and we will look at lower timeframe price action all right so let's take actually I think this line is a little stale now but let's bring up the view up and we'll kind of just talk about intraday volatility now the last intraday trade we talked about not yesterday but the day prior to that we did talk about Um. We are on the bit stamp chart here. WanNa make sure I get this right. We did talk about some awesome. WanNa make sure I get this right. Sorry yeah here. We are back over here on this day. we did talk about this trade right here. We had pointed handed out this level right here. I know that's not a very straight line but we did point out that level right there and we talked about the the three targets it's for that level or excuse me that was a terrible Jeez. My hands steady like somebody with Parkinson's. we talked about this target right here. We talked about this target right here and obviously we talked about where the the view up chunk down which is right there did on dead only end up hitting the first take profit on that long scalp and again not something that I took not really something that I'm into right now based on where price action is but of course that was a trade then we didn't end up hitting the stop loss right here if you would move your stop loss to break even and we that s and lower price appreciation based off of that now looking at where price is right now we do have this right here is according to this right there. there are two schools of thought on order blocks and there is the way that I do order blocks and there's the way that a lot of other people do order blocks. I don't really like that way but you know all pointed out for the purposes of this analysis. This would have been a fill zone on right here. Why because we establish order blocked there so the way that these order blocks work the reason I don't like it is because it's very confusing but the way that works is is like this so we have a low and then we try to move up and then we have a down movement and that down movement stopped so this is kind of synonymous with my you know you have a range what is the median of that range range? We like to see a high or low that does not violate that meeting and I talked about this the other day in the realm of price action but this is also according to people like ICT according to people. I'd like trader Dante. This is their style of order block right here so they would have been identifying this order block once they saw and they'd be looking to buy anything in that range and once they get get filled once that level has been in their terms rated this is where their stop loss goes other stop-loss goes right there so if one was trading that style one would have gotten filled filled right in the seventy eight eighty to seventy nine twenty three level and their stop loss would be right that right below this low right here again a little bit below seventy eight eighty. Maybe around seventy seventy eight seventy eighty five give or take. I don't really think that's the thing to do. I think that the thing to do is wait for this range to break. There have been a few profitable trades if you you are somewhat successful trading this range of course there have been three to five percent movements so you're getting on average anywhere from you know maybe honestly asleep realistically knowing the statistics of most you know intraday volatility traders you getting on average about one two. Maybe two percent on these trades 'cause because you're not catching the bottoms and tops but there is opportunity here for intraday trading. I don't really see any good setups. That would wanNA take just right now just looking at price action so I'm going to kind of leave that to you guys just looking at this. I think the logical one would have been a long getting filled right here and where would decent targets on that be at this point in time with kind of this diminish diminish volatility. I think the first target would be right here. This is where you up chunk down on the daily right here and counting your dynamic glover's assistance second target would most likely be right here or if you walk chunk down again and then I'd be out on then I would probably be out of the market for that day. I consider that a good trade getting filled here and taking the trade ups GonNa give you about a six percent trade and that actually is going to let you capture the majority of that movement of course you're gonNA scale scale at fifty percent profit here so your actual profits going to be somewhere around the median so maybe something like it'd be like four. Maybe maybe five and a half percent. If you're really lucky depends ice high scale so I leave that to you guys this is not the volatility channel. This is not the intraday trading volatility channel. This is the trend trading channel and the overall macro direction of Bitcoin and then sometimes me ranting about topics like the dollar and these darn kids with their rap music what's better the hourly chart or the daily Chart. It depends on what you WANNA do. I think that the the daily chart is where you want to start. You're going to get less signals all right so for most retail traders. That's what they WANNA do. Most most retail traders WANNA be taking maybe three to four trades a month that have a high probability of success and you're GonNa get that on the daily chart. You'RE GONNA pay very little and fees. Slippage is not going to be much of an issue in when you start going down to lower and lower timeframes slip becomes a real issue fees become a real issue. The more you trade the more you're going to be wrong and you're GONNA pay for being wrong right so you have to you know we we teach all this and the back testing course so you know it's a very very careful balance of of making sure that your hit rate and live trading is justifying the extra risks that you're taking the extra fees fees that you're taking on the risk of slippage. You'RE GONNA be taking on because that is a real concern when you get into trading on lower time from especially like the fifty Machar. It's just not you know people look at these charts and they see see these three or five percent swings. It's just not as sweet as you think man. It's not it's really not it's Naga territory man twinset jt my brother okay you know generally timeframes that I like kind of once you become accustomed to the daily and you start getting a little bit more active. If you are looking to spend and you know to to be a day trader so to speak to spend you know four to eight hours a day sitting in front of your computer and trading. I think you want to start developing a strategy for for the four hour time for him probably GonNa be the second most popular or one of our analysts hates the four hour timeframe. He loves the three hour timeframe and he has this theory that you get your signals our our earlier. I don't know if I necessarily agree with that but it works for him quite well. I don't really like the hourly timeframe I like the two hour time frame and then I pretty much do not like going below that I think there is success to be had on the thirty minute timeframe but again you have to develop your system each each tear down and you have to realistically look at factors like fees and slippage which the you know once you go below that to our timeframe that becomes a very significant factor comes a very significant factor that is what throws a monkey wrench and most algorithms so what are we seeing here. You know all all also you know I talked about this. The other day to what we have seen is that printed low get rated for stops and this is a concept not that I've talked about in other aspects as well which is to not by the first bounce the first bounces for suckers well really it's not for suckers. That's just not for retail traders because most people when they buy a bounce and they think they've got a low price tend to hold it and have a a reversion to the mean type idea where we're going to go back to a baseline or something like that. and I balance that's typically not going to be true. People are looking for that V bottom and those happened far less than bounce stops get bounced retail traders by people actually take profit on this moving up like now goes and then those lows get swept. This is where this is typically where you see a larger market buys come in and then price can actually make a movement and at that point a lot of retail traders are debilitated been kicked out but you can also see successive you know you can see successive sweeps and again and again because you know the difficulty here is determining what is trending and and what is consolidation and and Wick Afri. I WANNA point out you no. It's very hard to to not notice this paradox which is my new indicator short right here and and has kept you short pretty much this entire movement after literally all of it now the daily got short right around the same time alia short right here too but just beautiful thank you crypto caveman highly appreciate my good friend all right it is twelve oh forty eight and as usual we have talked about bitcoin for literally an hour okay so you know in the realm of this Let's let's talk about some popular theories about the bitcoin price decline so this is an article from Coin Telegraph in this says bitcoin price eight K. bounce now aligns perfectly with the stock to flow flow chart when I read this article kind of in preparation for the show because I kind of wanted to talk about the stock the flow model but the reality is there is like one sentence in here right here. There is one sentencing here that talks about the stock the flow model and the rest of this this the rest of this article is just prices are down right so we'll read this together. It says bitcoin escaped escaped a fresh dipped to seventy five hundred on September twenty fifth avoiding the worst scenario analysts had warned about before it's major crash well. Where did you pull that number from like where did seventy five hundred come from explain that to me Bitcoin circles eight point three K having prediction says data from coin three sixty showed the largest crypto currency pairing some losses between eight thousand and eighty five hundred on Wednesday previously the bitcoin bottomed out below eight thousand on some exchanges capping a nightmarish twelve hours in which the pair shed almost twenty percent previously one trader warned markets were set for a dive seven K. levels yeah I mean but you've also had like ninety traders talking about six thousand dollar levels evaluators talking about eight thousand dollars levels nine thousand seven thousand dollar levels all of this like hindsight site? All my Feb line was right. All my triangle broke to exactly the measure move. It's all crap man. That's real trading that stuff only only works in hindsight because all of these traders that do this stuff don't just have one or two lines on their chart. They generally have about fifteen and so yes probably price might have the possibility to bounce off of one of your lines and the moment that it does guarantee you. They take to twitter and say I told you so. Don't don't you see I drew that Feb.. Come join my you know come by product. It's crap dude. It's not real trading man. It is the most in my opinion despicable edible form of analysis out there is this hindsight nonsense and these people are not account most most of these people who want to call tops and bottoms and price targets argued Blah Blah Blah have so many lines on their chart it is beyond ridiculous. No sane rational person can actually form game plan around that and they're not accountable when the wrong thank you know kind of like this. This plan B. thing where he's got. You know price plotted out for the next two years well yeah. We'll wait and see if you're right in two thousand twenty one man there's no L. Accountability for being right not no accountability for being right and that's various theories soon emerged about what caused the routes including a one point two a billion dollar transaction on an exchange which could have sparked market panic. Yeah we've seen about like seventeen of those when bitcoin was consolidating and and it didn't cause that so that's nonsense proponents also dispelled rumors that previously alleged drop and bitcoin cash rate preempted the price decline as Coin Telegraph reported the Hash Rate Charts displayed a forty percent drop earlier in the week but commenters subsequently said the readings were inherently inaccurate so again that is assuming that the market is so that's stupid that doesn't make any sense because the hash rate did drop significantly and the market will respond to that. It doesn't matter if you come out after the fact you're like well. No no no no no man you like if you actually understand hash rate you'll see that that doesn't actually mean anything because that is a lagging indicator of Hash rate. It doesn't matter that the the difficult so just that you guys know there is a the difficulty increase that is coming on Bitcoin is going to make S. nine nines unprofitable right and a lot of minors are still mining with us nine so a firmware upgrade was released to make the S. nine squeeze out all the efficiency that they possibly can and this allows them to significantly reduce their power wattage per use and actually make the profitable with the difficulty increase that is coming up for bitcoin now because of that miners around the world are feverishly upgrading the firmware on their S. nine to have this new to have this new efficiency and you know in anticipation of the the difficulty increase in which at which point at that moment there s nines will no longer be profitable so I think that's probably the most significant reason why the hash rate dropped suddenly because for example if you have any kind of Bitcoin node connection you would have seen gene outbound peers increase while noticing a lot of notes drop off the network so hash rate decrease and the market could have probably did respond respond to that in some degree. You had a lot of conflict factors that happened 'cause price declined but again you didn't need to know any of that. It helps to know some of that but the chart told you to go short anytime around the seventeenth to the twenty second very simple cleaning objective and then you can be like well of course that happened but but again would you rather be right or would you rather make money. I think we all agree so so the fact that because most people don't understand anything about hash rate and most people don't didn't had no idea you probably know offense but most you probably had no idea about the S. nine update or that they would be unprofitable the BTC difficulty increase that's true and so the majority of traders out there also don't know and they're just responding. They're just responding right so it says now attention is turning to the run-up to bitcoins twenty twenty blocked reward having event. Yes the two thousand twenty block having events the block reward having event Yes yes ladies and gentlemen were Bitcoin will finally reach its all time highs yes in anticipation of having as we've seen every year array hippie Woo Hoo. Yes yay awesome sweet cool now. I don't think we want to discount that but I also just want to. You know try. The technicals. Don't read the fundamentals according to analysts plan B's stock the flow model for coin price which has traditionally given accurate predictions you mean when he released it like you know a while a couple of months ago like so it historically gives good results right so there's no repainting an assistant right yeah of course probably the the mean bitcoin price in the run-up to next MES eight thousand two hundred and eighty five as such under current conditions bitcoin no longer trading higher than its plan levels in ears time. I'll so what does that mean well of course if his model is correct then that means that any price underneath the median should be right and any price above the median should should be sold. This is basic reversion to the mean strategy right by below the median cell above the median going to talk about back. They're going to talk about Bitcoin Join Chris Vision leading the coin crash crashing about twenty five percent. We've seen worse it will continue to see worse so just wanted to point this out man. You know you gotta be you know I I read these articles and you've got to read them with a pretty discerning eye because you know again you coin telegraph just trying to get clicks eyeballs and you know hey you guys have seen my thumbnails. We're guilty of the the same thing but at the end of the day this says Coins Price Eight K now aligns perfectly with stock to flow chart. I mean you mentioned it for one cent here. Dude literally one cents commended sounded and the rest of this is just prices down okay anymore water. I wasn't enough. I've streaming sometimes guys. Maybe I just talked too much. Maybe it should be less talking and just anymore some blasting techno in the background and like random lines on the chart Britain's. You know I'll just like leave for like an hour. We'll just be like I'll be like some of those twenty four seven streamers right much just looked like that and then I'll leave come back and be like yeah yeah man bitcoin. That's what I've noticed with most of the twenty four seven astronomers but hey you no more power to a man I respect the hustle. It's tough to do man yeah. Bitcoin Swan Song Yeah and hopefully you guys know I mean do it for fun man okay so let's look at the weekly can't and then we're GonNa take a quick break here and before we do that just a second here gentlemen. Let's go over and look at that weekly candle so on the weekly timeframe. Where's the buy target it's super wide forgive me but seventy four thirty two to sixty one seventy now? Let's before we do that and and I don't think you should be blindly buying in those levels again that is the definition of picking a bottom. Don't pick about them. Identify level see reaction off of it see if you get on the timeframe friendly trade on whether either reversal signal or trending signal and then go okay but we do have some negative things coming in here on the weekly. Obviously we have manx signaling actually last week was the first last week minks did give a short signal on the weekly okay now what Atari explosion gave a signal above the dead zone but not above the explosion level but I know some people have modified their settings for what Atari explosion so it's quite possible that they could have actually gotten a lot of that kits thanks so much man and then of course paradox actually on the weekly timeframe got negative right back here so paradox had you weekly perish back here in August and how'd you short paradox also add you long from February poppy entire bull market and had you sell in July and gave you you won fake out week so there's a loss right here. There's just no denying that but as you start off of this candle in as short so again what is the purpose of this indicator. Would you guys like to see how how long paradox kept you short on the weekly timeframe the fifteenth of January two thousand eighteen and it stayed short until February two thousand nineteen so you guys tell me seems like a pretty good indicator to have done ale lots of work on this. This is probably one of the most difficult indicators that have had to code and here's the thing I haven't even added bells and whistles to it but the logical code was beyond difficult but I digress target hit. He just turned awesome. Thank you so much. Sir highly appreciated Raffle do. ICS bouncing here a little bit before continuing down low seven K. as I said and this is an annoying answer. I'm sure confidence levels about sixty four to be. I think it's more likely that's why I closed my short last night. Now guys prepare yourselves at incoming shit happens man. 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See in just a moment yeah turn yeah and yeah yeah and and we're back guys volatility Tilla bring new subs where all the new subs come from a couple of hundred this week well volatility. You know we've been here for a very long time and we just only hope that we continue to grow. We've already had explosive growth. You guys are absolutely fantastic. You know I had no idea when we started this channel that we would have the success that people would be you really into the way that I trade would be really into the way that I break things now and I'm not gonNA lie. We've made strides in production quality because some of the earlier videos were rough. Sometimes I go back and watch them and I'm like wow but you know I've had thoughts to take them down but there's a part of me. That's like you know those are actually that's because I've I've been right right about a lot of things in the past. I've been wrong about some things in the past and all I can do is just be honest about well. Let's actually how I felt at that point in time about whatever topic that I might have been talking about okay so let's let's go to the foreign currency Z. Markets guys want to stay on schedule here. We're looking foreign currency markets will do the news and then we'll double back in. Maybe look at some of the other major all coin pairs and kind of get a can get an idea for that as well because I think there is some interesting stuff coming up that I do WanNa talk about on. I do think that old coins are interesting to talk about. Don't think crossed the border down for the count. I think a lot of them are down for the count but let's go to the foreign currency markets here and am is that and look at my open trades. I still only have the three I didn't actually end up putting on new trades last night. We'll start off with the then. We'll bring up the baseline okay. I I did kind of talk about the aussie-yen a little bit more bullish on this looking at that reversal baseline bounce I did talk about having limit by orders set at the at the at the baseline for the reversal baseline mounts we have not seen that movement down toward that level yet and we are seeing a little bit of a bullish reactionary off of this level right now against still overall looking at the aussie-yen. I'd still be more bias to the upside but we don't have a strong We don't have a strong signal at this point now. However one could argue that we we do because we do we are? Let's think about this for a little bit when we're above the baseline were when we talk about foreign currency were more bullish and bearish right so we are above the baseline and we do have a couple things happening today where like we'd be looking for. A continuation trade continuation trade means volume is less of an issue we do have minks crossing up into the static line on which again what is that that is an exit signal for a short it can also be a continuation entry for a long now. I feel a lot more confidence when I see those cross ups happen above the initiation unlevel above the zero line in this case but we also have our exit indicator all we have time transformation crossing up as well and kind of deep into that. Let's actually take a look and see if we can see any of that. Yeah we actually do have we actually do have a hidden bullish divergence on this pair right here where we have a low in price action right here which actually was regular bullish divergence because time transformation does divergence as well auto magically we do have a high or low in price action but a lower low on our oscillate or that is hidden bullish divergence meaning. The Movement to the downside has exhausted our momentum oscillator more than it did over over here. Those are a couple of bullish lines. I would be okay I would understand the idea of looking to take that continuation long off of this. Oh actually for that purpose I'm GonNa go ahead and add this to my watch list and take a closer look at this toward the close the FX markets this evening Aussie accuweather again same thing I would be more bullish than bearish on the OSCE pairs are we don't have have that same night signal coming in from minks yet but just looking at this I would definitely be more interested in taking long and again we still we see that exact same phenomenon over here where we we have this hidden Bush divergence. We have a low on our Osler. We have a lower low. We don't actually have confirmation of that low because we don't have the cross up yet just like we don't have the cross up on Manx this is something I would be keeping my eye on potentially. Maybe the next candle but as we sit so maybe Monday I'll come look at this. I'M NOT GONNA add this one of my watch list but as as we sit right now I would still have lab is right here at that. one point zero six eight two six level right at the right at the thirty Don Aussie dollar caller I would stay away from the Aussie dollar again very squirrelly about dollar pairs most of the time and especially right now with just the way that the world is sometimes these things trade very clean and and over just overall. I prefer to take those nice clean trending trades and we've had we've had a couple of signals here for short trending trades but but I just haven't felt the confidence to take them on dollar pairs in. That's you know that's just comes. we did talk about the Canadians you can see here. My live trades will be on the screen. I did not end up taking that long. Trade off of the Canadian Swiss the I just did not end up liking the way that it looked and of course you know again that's kind of invalid to talk about because we don't necessarily look at our volume indicators for these continuation signals but we can see that we're not even above the dead zone so I'm not GonNa lie that did play a part of my analysis my hesitancy. NC to take this trade on again. I'm kind of you know obviously glad this doesn't really mean anything to me. Yes it's a little bit of a down movement. Would I be in a little bit of drought yes but again I still I love my eye on it. Just not entering into a trade right now Canadian young Canadian yen exact same thing we had that we had that potential chill reversal signal over here on the twenty fifth of September Two Thousand Nineteen one might have hidden take prophet one on this. Let's actually could we go right now and take a look at what Dr Stops and targets might have been now. We haven't quite hit. RTP One he came very very close to it on the high of the day scandal so you know I'm not GonNa take any action on this one neither especially with perilux signaling for the short down here let's go to the Swiss in Swiss actually putting in a little bit of Nice bullishness right here let's see we don't have the continuation signal yet. We don't have that yet that will also be giving us a primary single as well crossing back above the initiation of or at their we do you have it from time transformation but that's just not good enough for us and we'd still have paradox telling us that the trend has not fully commenced to the upside Euro Aussie Euro Aussie paradox is just now going short minks confirming that as well but we don't have the actually we we'd be looking for a continuation signal so that is is not necessary so let's look at the Aussie to go short on tonight Euro Canadian. I am short on 'em sure on the Euro Canadian waiting for the exit signal. The load up here haven't gotten it yet so I'll still be I will still be in the trade. No reason exits night. I'll let this ride and see how Sunday's open affects us. Euro Swiss I I am also short on as well. It is now finally moving in my favor when I did take a short and again kind of taken the short a little pass to actually not really because the candle adjusts closed closed this is when I got the officials signal because this is going to be a primary signal so I do need wanted to tell me what to do. and I did end up getting it on the closed this Kennel. I didn't get a chance to take get right before the close as I prefer to trade but I did catch on the open which spreads are a little higher right after the close but I guess what it is but finally now priced moving in my favor and so nothing nothing to do except let this ride we're just gonNA kinda speed up here and look a few more pairs. Euro key looks like it might be entering into a long trade right here but not getting the signal uh-huh from Manx Let's go ahead and hop down to the pound dollar. pound-dollar is in this reversal baseline area again as I've said you don't WanNa be calling tops and bottoms autumn's but this is where you might want to have your by set or more you know perhaps a better way to look at this is this is where you want to be keeping your eye on price and then looking to see if we do end up getting thing that minks and noise line cross up which looks like it's probably GonNa take a couple days at this point in time so just keep your eyes on this when the pound dollar maybe in the next couple of days paradoxes style telling you that you should be a biased short though but again above the baseline. We can't really be new in that Kiwi dollar Kiwi dollar you know this is. This is a no trade for me. I WANNA see some movement from this and let's look at the dollar cad at dollar cat is treacherous Chris Right now. I would not touch this with a ten football. You can see that I attempted to take a trade on this. I was mildly successful with this. did end up taking a short took profit very very quickly and I'm out of touch this a dollar yen one of my favorite pairs to trade honestly we are actually going to be getting bats bats. Let's take a gander here got that continuation signal yesterday within bullish divergence right down here I and above the baseline so this actually doesn't look too bad. Might I be looking to take the dollar-yen long and Ozzy Canadian. I am law. I am short on the OSCE. Comedian did it my first take profit over here on yesterday's candle not getting the the exit signals so stop losses at break even so really nothing to do and of course I do want to close the day out by looking at the dollar yuan and we have not gotten volume yet. There's just not enough volume for us to be looking to take the tread water explosion kept us out of this even though perilux and minks have been signaling to go long hair for a few days so this might be something that we regret but overall this has been a slightly treacherous pair to trade as well of course we did capture some okay movements on this one but overall. We're all not not really thrilled about this one and it doesn't really matter because again at the end of the day I have to listen to the indicators and it's not my subjective style of what I want to do so that's our quick nick. Wrap up right there on for extended throughout the currency pairs unless there's something Jake says I walk away from Crypto for two seconds and everyone decides to break. This is why we can't have nice. Thanks Dan good to see you are down a fraction of a penny on my trade. I'm so sorry man thank you so much. Crypto Caveman highly appreciate that I love making indicators man. It's one of my passions in life can down a fraction of a penny but I'm staying in and taking the heat like a man now. That's that's. That's a quotable quotable. Man quotable quote picking Tops Zimbabwe's is like picking your nose might feel good but it's not something you usually want to hang onto but that on a t shirt man put that on a t-shirt okay have a quick glance at the spy let's spy school over to untraditional markets and I'll actually look at the DSP on my look at the seeming futures. see me features on the daily. I think this is a better thing this is better. Well Damn out of water so you guys are just GonNa have to deal with my. I don't know Glamor something maybe as we continue to move forward do I ever used the HMO indicator. I use the indicator for a very very long time and and I have a full transcript. I WANNA one video on it. I think it's one of the best indicators to start with if you're new to trading because it will get you in the habit of trading eating systematically and looking confirmation in using multiple components to confirm traits but I don't currently use it now I I don't I think the HMO is great to start with because it gets you trained and disciplined but I think that eventually I want to graduate from the HMO coup. There are still as you can see her. I still have a component from the smoking. which is the key June which is the baseline them using here Mr? Qc I know that's a typo paradox might be a better name for the indicator looking at the looking at ESPN. I'm bullish on equity markets. In general I'm bullish indices we do have a couple of things is that are a little bit of an issue right now we do. Have we have a demand. Excuse me we have a supply zone that we need need to overcome that supplies known as coming in from three thousand five point eight to thirty twenty four. We do need to overcome that and let's see you. What's the latest thing that we flipped here? Well would not say that it's perfect but so the reason this is a yellow line is because I think that this forms a good medium for where prices we can obviously resistance right here acting as resistance we can see that level broken back tested as supports we can see fake out right here and then overall. This level is hold of course that's twenty eight seventeen Would this be where I would be looking for price to go. I think that if we fail I think that if we do fail this kind of first importance level right here so I think that looking looking at this and of course we do need to look at indices and we need to look at equity a little bit differently than we look at crypto and a little bit differently than we look at. FX So different components are going to come into play because there are different different dynamics at work so looking at this. I think the current level to watch is going to be twenty nine thirty nine. I don't really see it unlikeable. The price go ahead and move its way on down about another percent down to twenty nine thirty nine and we do have our baseline coming right here around twenty nine seventeen so I think that represents presents a pretty good area to watch for reaction from so again. Look for price to bottom right about here and then if we do end up coming back above you know you want to be a little hesitant because again you know a reclamation as the thing where we will retest and back test that but that would be that'd be PC break pullback continuation getting back above twenty nine thirty nine once we kind of fall into this level between twenty nine thirty nine and twenty nine seventeen. I think I'd be pretty okay for just another bounce off of that area. That's where I'd be looking to buy but if we close the daily below twenty nine seventeen then I would assume that we come back down and tag twenty eight seventeen and actually if that is the case I would actually be a little bit more short-term Barish now still I'm still macro bullish on the SNP install macro bullish on the equity markets. I think they're gonNA explode more. You're in the long term but having said that just looking at this from a supply-and-demand point of view. I think that if we do end up coming down below twenty on seventeen. I don't really think we're going to stop twenty seven. I think we'll probably see that level. Get faked thing we're GONNA see liquidity grabbed and the next logical place would be twenty seven thirty one so again looking at this from a trading perspective I would watch I would be bullish and I would look for a bullish reaction. Wants price comes down to about twenty nine thirty nine twenty nine seventeen. It's back back above I'd be looking to take price all the way back up to three thousand and five three thousand twenty four and I'd be looking to trend long trend long once once we get back above that level and then of course anything above the baseline right here if minks and water explosion and paradox at this point any time if they give a long signal go I'm going because I'm bullish and I'm looking for any reason to buy stocks but violating this level violating this baseline I'd be pretty bearish all the way down to twenty seven thirty one two thousand seven hundred one and then that's that would be the area that I'd be watching for so if we can hold this level quite bullish in the short term right now if we break this level then then I actually see a pretty steep decline coming in I mean pretty Steve for the S. and P. I mean that's six point three eight percent. That's quite a few points men. What a wally my Dude Jake Rosie O. says what do I think about the Fed injecting seventy by seventy five billion into the banking system him every night for the past four nights they plan on doing tonight yeah? I actually talked about this for a very long time over the last few shows I would go check out. Was it yesterday's video or was it the video before that yeah I would definitely definitely go check out I mean I talked about it for almost thirty minutes man. I have a lot of opinions on that. here's the thing I think that it is. I think that it is an extremely negative warning sign overall for the American economy and that's exactly why I'm so bullish on equity exactly why I'm so bullish on equity. I don't think that it's going to happen this time. there are other reasons why I'm bullish on American equity markets as well and the reason why is because of global turmoil. I think that we're seeing the destabilization Asian of many many currencies across the world negative interest rates on most central banks the European Central Bank pretty much all across Europe has negative interest rates and so people are looking. It's a park their money in places where they can actually earn interest we've already seen the yield curve inversion. All of these things are long-term warning signs but the Repo Repo market the fact that the fact that banks are running out of short-term liquidity is very indicative of the fact that they are very hesitant to lend to one another but we half the kind of juxtaposed that I think we have to kind of juxtaposed that with with what's going on globally and again with the dollar being the world reserve currency as I think a lot of other national currencies began to fail or move more into negative interest rates. I think they're gonNA pile into equity so do I. Here's what I see. I see a massive blow off top for American equities that you do not WanNa underestimate a massive blow off and then I think that we actually get the follow through on the liquidity crisis. I think we get the follow through on everything because it all comes down to manipulating retail traders. you know banks don't want to sell at a loss. I think they're going to push a you know I think that the entire world piling into American equity and American dollars a as as a as a stable hedge against everything that's going on regardless of the it as well as precious metals as well as Bitcoin. I think that Bitcoin will respond to this positively. I see a massive off top for American equities and then if we are going to enter into a recession a recession off the heels of that but the Fed injecting money is very very very weren't worrisome because that's exactly kicked off the two thousand eight financial crisis okay with that being said. Let's go take a look at the current events of the day due due to Bluetooth through to do okay. I I Kinda WanNa talk to you about is Venezuela so according to a Bloomberg article today reports out of Venezuela suggest that the government is is considering adding bitcoin or a theory him so for you. Hodler is out there. Let's do it again. I don't have it on the scene. Sorry so bottlers theory about their hurry to its official central bank holdings now Bloomberg has unnamed Venezuelan sources so we can't confirm the validity of this cannot confirm firmer tonight. I heard that it was deep throat now they say that the country is national oil company and primary source of Revenue Petronas Devon's Walea essay or PDVSA for short is petitioning the government to utilize bitcoin Aura theorem to restart their oil industry and help resume international trade with it suppliers now unlike the state issued Petro Bitcoin any theorem have global acceptance and can be somewhat easily settled into Fiat in order to meet financial santeuil obligations to international suppliers and customers now because the petro never really managed to get off the ground due to an expansion of financial sanctions to specifically specifically marginalized that I'm looking at you trump a decentralized currency such as bitcoin would be more difficult for global forces to sanction or prevent the state from trading him so this is a pretty blatant opportunity wally. Thanks so much for the fifteen dollars. My man always get pumped up. Thank you so much shots shots you end gun by university. He says do you personally see correlation between lead up to see me future contract expiration and bitcoin price and do you use that for trades learning. No get burn. Not really you know. I've talked about this. In the past seamy expiration. I don't really see a huge correlation except that sometimes price does something and sometimes price doesn't and I know that sounds like such bullshit answer but I look at if you look at all the information that we have about seeing futures and expiration and its effect on price three days prior and three days after there is no direct correlation sometimes price I mean often you see an increase in trading volume increase in volatility but there's no directional bias that can be gleaned from it and sometimes we have a big movement and sometimes we don't it is the reality of it so because at best it's fifty fifty. doesn't really make it into the way that I trade. Something's gotTa be better than fifty fifty. If it's GonNa make it into the way that I trade. I think it's something interesting now obviously today we have expiration or had expiration. Excuse me of the September that Max expertise nineteen gene contract so I did say last night when I made my premium update to the subscribers in the group that hey guys if you're hedging on you nineteen and now is probably not a bad time to start scaling that out and getting over into the nineteen contract and I think I was you know. Obviously I do that. Every time that the contracts expire we are just making people aware that the worst thing you want to do is go away for the weekend. not knowing that you're you're you're short hedge was settled on Friday and then come back on Monday to price having declined and you've lost a significant amount of cash so you know if I can see some different data on seamy futures expirations but all the research that I've done in all all the research that I've seen just makes unreliable in my opinion now so I want to make very clear. This is a very obvious attempt for Venezuela to weasel out of sanctions and I think that overall that's it's a good thing I think that the country is being hurt by sanctions and I think that the only reason for the sanctions at this point in time is a deliberate attempt to make the petro not get off the ground that is pretty much the only thing so as somebody who so I'm not a huge fan of Venezuela not he's trying to socialism and I think that that is probably the biggest contributor to the problems that they have but I think that in the realm of the United States and the global global international banking community community attempting attempting to put the Petro in its place. I don't necessarily think that's a great idea so I actually I actually support this because I do want you know the Venezuelan people are down there suffering thing and the more liquidity access to actual Fiat that they can actually get into their system the better their lives have the potential to become now if we can only hope that they overthrow the specter of socialism and actually re-engage the world with capitalism they would you know accelerate that quite a bit but I digress so I think this is good good. I think this is good for Bitcoin and I don't really care what America has to say about it now. These speculation is for the proposal by the PDVSA to you have even been floated suggest them as well and government. Let me reread this okay so the speculation is that the PDVSA is actually holding bitcoin and a theory already in secret and they are not obligated to reveal that information to the National Assembly until January twenty twenty at the earliest so it's quite a potential that they've already been accumulating Bitcoin at this point in time in which case you know God for God hope that they weren't accumulating bitcoin at the top here because they're probably all committing suicide at this point in time but Bloomberg has reported quote staffers are also studying proposals that would allow crypto currencies sees to be counted toward international reserves now near a three decade low at seven point nine billion dollars American so they are looking to kind kind of prop up their reserve reserves of a of a nation by actually holding things that have more value than what Venezuela currently has which is not a whole lot now. This suggests that the hydro electric rich nation may have already gathered a significant amount of the leading crypto currencies in its preparing to close the disclosed this in a future campaign. The groundwork is said to have been laid as far back as April of two thousand eighteen in which government decree legitimize crypto currency as a form of payment so so is this kind of a forty chest movement from Venezuela to escape international sanctions and have a you know a good basket of reserve currencies and crypto currencies that can allow them to really mitigate the effects of sanctions against them. Yes it is and I think it's pretty smart plan. what can we expect coming from the international community on this well it depends spends on how hard core they wanNA use men as well as torch to kind of ignite a war against crypto currency could this be negative for bitcoins price well if Venezuela says that they're going to be holding a basket of Crypto oh currencies as part of their as a significant part of their reserves as a nation and the larger body of international powers wants to say well you know we're willing go to war against crypto currency just to push you down as well as we just don't like your face then yeah this could be absolutely negative Quinn's price. Do I think it's the only thing thing that's GonNa make an effect now but I think it's important to watch and be aware of because God damn if they don't have as well so article nine of that decree did stipulate that the Venezuelan government will promote and may establish cryptocurrencies as an instrument of payments now while the nation will still need a domestic Fiat currency in which the the central bank manages the inflationary policy government approval will mean citizens would have the ability to protect and preserve their own wealth in crypto and still have the government's blessing and converting to their national Fiat. I'm back so again. This all comes down to giving power to those who have the least amount of power this citizens especially we have a country that represses its own people giving people the ability to actually hold their wealth and something that has value and can be settled into an international currency or international national value more so than the petro which is worthless and more so than Venezuela's National Fiat which is also worthless at current point in time looking at exchange rates against other currencies so let me know what you guys think about. This is good for bitcoins price. Is this bad for bitcoins price. There is is a lovely comments section down there and then of course this nice little live chat thing where I may have an opinion on your opinion moving right along all right so the chief economist Mark Cliffe the same Mark Cliffe not Mark Levin. We'll be speaking at a joint event to discuss central bank issued stable coins and he confirmed that the I. N. G. Does hold plans of launching a digital currency of their own cliff went on the specify that they will be moving towards the creation of digital currency in the next two to three years soon. Mary pull up this for those of you. who think I'm talking outside of my head right here? This is the I N. G. Group the Dutch multinational banking and Financial Services Corporation and they are in yield Amsterdam so now we all know that digital currency adoption is gaining significant momentum across the world and we have examples of private corporate coins such a libra and we obviously have J. P. Morgan Coin Lieber as obviously set to launch in twenty twenty and we have of course as I just mentioned interbank enter branch judge settlement currencies such as the JP Morgan Coin and the Wells Fargo coin as well as the state backed digital currencies seen from China and then as Walea as some of the first to embrace this new technology technology now this is just another mainstream financial institution throwing their hat into the ring of digital currency development with countless list more likely cultivating similar projects under the radar. I think that we can expect in the next decade to give rise to a revolution and currency and finance and I've said this many many times before I think that in the short term and by by that I mean like five ten years we are going to see a wild explosion ocean and probable success of these types of instruments right. Do they represent. Are they going to represent investment opportunities no not really really they can be used as indicators for other things that could qualify as investments as it sits right now. Stable coins are going to be fairly stable right one would hope but again this is also going to be a revolution for the foreign currency markets. I think that we are going to see a lot of nations transition away from from Fiat currencies as we know them today the dollar you know the the Japanese yen the Chinese you want a the the American dollar. The British pound the Canadian dollar. I think that the majority of these are going to transition to central bank issued stable coins. the technology is better. The control is better for them. The tracking is better for them. the manipulation is easier for them. It's just a logical progression of institutions moving toward technological advancement obviously spurred by the Revolution Aleutian that Bitcoin and decentralized currency is and they want to get in there and they want to shut that down to maintain control they WANNA maintain power and the only way that they can do that is by moving into this new realm of technology so I think that we are going to see that transition happen and what does that mean for foreign currency trading. I don't know is is it something that could go away. It's quite possible that are we going to be able to trade the digital dollar against the digital Canadian dollar are GONNA be able to trade the digital yuan against the digital. It'll renminbi you can bet your bottom dollar that the big banks are not going to want to see that volatility and profit for them fade away that is their primary source of income in my opinion opinion but I digress now. The open discussion on the future of economic policy and technology was put on by and and the banking think tank Aumf if now they had they covered a range of topics regarding the major advancements in decentralize finance along with the discussion of advantages is and drawbacks of central bank stable coins now the I N G did confirm the development other digital currency project is coming. Just a week came in just a week after releasing their report titled From Cash to Crypto the money revolution the report did claim that despite the hype around Crypto cash will remain relevant in the theory of the cashless future is highly unlikely do disagree with them on this point governments around the world to transition away from cash because they want to be able to monitor and control every single transaction now while paper Fiat and may not be disappearing right away. It's undeniable that world governments financial regulators are coming around to accepting the ongoing innovation of currency accounting in the twenty first century. I E we're going to be transitioning to fully digital money now. The big battle uh-huh between fully digital centralize money and fully and fully digital decentralized money and again decentralize money stands as a bulwark against the centralized this model there is to obviously they exist in conjunction right now and I think that that duality is likely to continue for a very long period of time I I do not see bitcoin overthrowing World Fiat. Excuse me government issued Fiat anytime soon. I do not see the nation state going away anytime soon. Humanity is a slow evolving organisms society even more so slowly and I think that it will take us a long time to transition to an overall better state of society where we embrace things he's like ethics and philosophy and universal values. I think that these things exist. I think that they are objective and I think that they will eventually be what we move toward as a human species I think that we will eventually transition away from the nation state archetype. I think that we will transition away from the really says it all there. At the Nation State archetype I think it is the big battle whether we move toward a whether that transition is oppressive off or liberating. Do we move toward a one world government nightmare scenario where we have just one overarching tentacle of centralized power or we transition into a world into a society where we realized that we don't need that and that people can take care of yourself and we can have structure without centralized authority. We'll see this is the epic argument between Alexander Hamilton Institution NOCCO all right so let's talk about manipulation says okay. We'll take your cookies all right our institutional investors manipulating the bitcoin price price well since the launch of the seamy futures contracts speculation has run rampant on the cash settled market manipulation of bitcoin price now new data coming from Arcane research seems to support these claims Thomas Lee from fun Strat for example has been saying for over a year now that bitcoin seems aims to decline right before feature settlement contracts and on the Arcane research have sent crunch the numbers more closely seemingly validating these suspicions of manipulation relation through futures bitcoin price falls on average or into this report around two percent ahead of seeing me settlements more than both the average and median compared to any other day are Cain also found that an only five times out of twenty where the days before the semi settlements Arcane also found that only five times out of twenty that the cme cme settled in the green in other words as pursuing the seamy settlements have been overwhelmingly negative the drops preceding cme settlement closes also seemed to be worse whenever bitcoin s posted more or returns for the month the drastic drops perceiving each settlement closing especially on the cme ports tour points towards some level of price manipulation occurring so we just talked about this wally. Let's this is good. This is good that we have this article because this is going to add nuance now according to Arcane research they're saying that only five times out of twenty twenty in their research that this cme subtle in the green meaning that it's it would seem to see it would seem to come from this argument that you know if you just took it as a base is level analysis. It would say a short trade is the better trade to go the problem. Is You need to look at You need to look at where the futures contract opened up at right. You need look at where the features contract opened up at all they're saying is that on average a price settles two percent lower on expiration day okay now for some traders that two percent is going to be all that they want and all that they need but of course as trend traders were looking for far more significant movements in the market and what happens directly after those settlements does price move in the opposite direction does price consolidate for a long period of time does price continue to move down as I said there would seem to be weak Directional Bias Elias confirmation here and ideas of market manipulation but I don't think that this information or this knowledge is going to be Germane to many traders first off. We don't have a lot of data seamy. Futures have been around not very long so short-term data is not great to go off of especially when you're looking at how many times you know contracts expire which is even less than about the eighteen months that seeming features have been around a little bit longer than that but I digress and and I would say that seventy five percent of the time price closing two percent lower on expiration date. I don't know you can take that information Asian as you will again as I said I don't really see the usefulness of this information to me as a traitor and and because it does not as I said the main problem here is that does not give directional bias now if this is kind of an addendum trade that you want it seems that seventy five percent is a pretty strong hit rate so if if in the days what all I can take away from this is it would seem that in the days leading up to the semi futures one might WanNa be short and then look to close that short at at expiration right. We have to understand though that price is going to diverge when you're trying to take you know mark. Two minute prices like that price is gonNA diverge on the seamy features as opposed to spot index prices so take the information as you will. I don't think that it's supremely helpful or or interesting. But of course we do have mark manipulation coming the way we have Markham all over cryptocurrency wells manipulate price but they don't just manipulate price. It's not just all price. Manipulation manipulation appellation does occur in the CRYPTO currency markets. There's also supply and demand and coming in just a just a honorable mention here coming in from the Motley fool is mastercard announcing that we talked about this a little bit before but I just Wanna I believe he has a little bit more information mastercard announcing their new blockchain payment system and square hiring some more bitcoin developers just some positive news kind of end up that market manipulation on a positive note you know. Do you guys think it's possible that blockchain technology is going to disrupt the global payment system. We've kind of talked about this before I think that it's absolutely possible but but not necessarily as a medium of exchange again I- i- comport with the you know with safer. DNA Mussa's argument that we don't actually need bitcoin to be currency that does the transaction it is the sediment layer does bitcoin represent the future of money absolutely and if so how can we position ourselves to profit from these trends so these are questions that powerful companies including mastercard and square appear to be asking for themselves so moreover these financial innovators are taking action to prepare their businesses to compete and win and in a crypto based world so just good information coming here now mastercard has partnered heard with our three day of the ripple blockchain. I don't really think that's absolutely fantastic choice for them but I Digress Square and square has obviously hired quite a few people to build up there to build up their their services so article will be linked in the description. If you guys want to learn a little bit more about this I just thought it would be good to end on a positive note so with that being said guys get back over into the lives and we left off on the SNP. Let's get back into big. Daddy Bitcoin all right. Let's see here. Intraday trades. Stop loss right here. Next target would be right here and right here dreads. Let's go over into a comment section. We are arguing about X. P. Audrey says I don't know what socialism is. Is it possible to summarize it in a few words or a concept. Thank you anyway so I feel like this is a trap but here we got in my opinion opinion the generally the dictionary definition of socialism is going to be centralized government or in a broader term centralized authorities ability to control will the means of production for society meaning. What does that mean on a practical level? means that there is no true free market it means that that the market is not allowed so buyers and sellers and willing participants in the market are not able to determine prices and are not able to determine prophets and are not able to determine reasonable. We'll pay amounts on their own. generally these things have to come generally these things are owned by the state controlled by the state and therefore in that element are regulated by the state from a practical level socialistic nations and this is different from capitalist nations that have socialist that have large social welfare welfare programs. There's there's quite a difference but generally socialist nations are going to sets fair parades. They're going to set They're going to control corporate boards. They're going to control what companies can and cannot do. They do not allow the free market to run things so in a as opposed to a capitalist nation which is individuals have property rights so property rights is really the big problem here in a socialist nation. You do not have the right to your property. The State owns the right to your property. I e the fruit of your labor. Are you do not own for you. Do Not really have the Fiat right or excuse me not the right but you do not have the exclusive right to the fruits of your Labor the State owns it and and let's you and grants privilege to you. Basically your labor belongs to the state kind of socialization whereas in a capitalist nation in your labor belongs to yourself. This has a lot of effects on the side effects on the economics of nation. This is a lot of effects on the welfare or a nation as well and socialist nations socialist governments typically justify everything that they do through the lens of protecting the people or keeping the peace or or promoting stability of the currency or whatever nonsense that they say but we have not yet seen a socialist nation that has done well and I would say that we've seen more socialist nations starve their people than you will. Michael says decides what be will be giving us a a good summation eleven are excuse me one fifty three good stuff man good stuff good show guys go. This would be the time if you have questions. It's if you have comments sarcastic remarks. Would you like me to respond to their any difference. Since between socialism and Communism in the beginning socialism is usually the word that's used for the bridge between capitalism and Communism Socialist nations. I usually devolve into dictatorships so typically and socialism Camila pretty much the same structure but there will be some play at you know a representative body democratic body representatives or parliament or something of that nature but you know not look at Venezuela and can I briefly explaining auto de Leveraging on by bettas. I'm down to one times to on my one x short at the moment to keep out of the red okay so for a position to be opened up there has to be willing buyer on the other side of the market right so in the event that there are a lot of liquidations which means there are positions that would have to be forcibly closed if there is not an insurance fund for example which is what Bet Max employs if there is not an insurance fund to cover the potential difference between the price at which you're going to go bankrupt right so let's start off with explaining the difference between Let's let's start off with the difference between liquidation price and bankruptcy price okay and this is going to deal with the concept of maintenance margin right so when you open up a leveraged trade you have to put up margin right. That's your collateral to take the money that is loan to you either from the broker and that money typically comes from an investment bank or in bit finances case it actually comes from community funding for example all exchanges do this a little bit differently but aw I digress so and for Bet Max from bits bits is a good example and by it as well. I comes from individuals that loan money to alone out in the form and they receive you're paying them basically a fee to do that. So and that's again. That's the bit for next model of community funding for and for leverage so you there's also a portion of your margin that is known as maintenance margin and essentially what that is is your liquidation price. This is going to be when you've lost all of your margin minus your maintenance margin your maintenance margin is still left and your maintenance margin is there to cover any fees that might be associated with closing trade and they're also there to cover any divergence between the mark price at which you have reached the liquidation price price and the price where you actually get filled up to cover slippage essentially right because when you're order when you get liquidated. Let's say you're long and so when when you are liquidated let's say you have ten thousand contracts long and you reach liquidation price well. That's ten thousand contracts that needs to go somewhere. There has to be a willing buyer and insular right. There is no divergence. There's one long for every short so there has to be a willing buyer on the other side of the market. Somebody has to be willing to somebody has to be willing and to sell the contracts right for for everything to close out and go equal right now if there is not a willing buyer depending depending on liquidity depending on the market depending on the price. There's going to be a divergence in the price that you get filled at the divergence where you're actually go. re actually get liquid on that maintenance. It's margin is in theory there to cover any slippage or fees the might be associated with that cost so that everything can balance out now you're bankruptcy. Price is the price at which you have lost everything your margin plus your maintenance margin k the totality of your margin right and at that point any slippage from that level now has to be covered by somebody else and I'll tell you what the exchange exchanged sure as hell is not going to cover it. So what do they do. When such a situation occurs they employ auto de leveraging meaning they forcibly if there is not a willing buyer at your liquidation Dacian price and if there's not a willing buyer once your maintenance margin has been utilized they are going to employ auto de leveraging and they use a hierarchy like basically who's the most profitable who's been in short the longest and they're going to force your orders closed to close out that the trade that's now being liquidated? That's how it works otherwise if they did not do that they would have to socialize losses basically meaning any time that occurred they would like take an equal amount of contracts off of everybody else. They don't do that and I think that's the better way to do it. Basically you know if you are super super profitable. If you just had a really super dope killer trade they're gonNA say hey. It's your turn buddy time to throw a time to throw throw a poker chip into the hat because you're buying coffee can close out as many of your contracts is necessary to actually settle the books so it's never fun when it happens. We will see it happen. If you have highly profitable positions and there is a massive move in the market this occurs you know low liquidity markets are GONNA and have this issue but it's something that gets better with time all all right. Thank you so much Elijah highly appreciate them a good friend. what did I do for a living before I became a trader. I've been a Butcher Baker candlestick maker but actually my job right prior to becoming a full-time trader I was a supervisor at a h VAC manufacturing company and International H Back Manufacturing facturing company and actually quite a nice position. very good benefits quite a high rate of pay managed multiple production lines prior to that. 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Amanpour: Tim Phillips, Michael Specter, Richard Levitan

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Amanpour: Tim Phillips, Michael Specter, Richard Levitan

"Hello everyone and welcome to. I'm on four. Here's what's coming up. Health and the economy one follows the other. We take the pulse with Tim. Phillips head of America's most powerful conservative political group. Then good evening Dr Anthony Foul Superstar Dr. How Antony foul. She became the trusted face of public health. And what we can learn from his journey that plus if we change the public education we change the messaging and if we can detect this silently occurring though oxygen level that we can do so much better for these patients. Straight from the frontlines dumped. Richard Levinson tells Hari Sreenivasan. The Kobe nine hundred thousand patient should be going to hospital soon up and finally creativity the art rising under lockdown. Welcome to the program. Everyone I'm Christiane Amanpour working from home in London the Corona virus will almost certainly come back. That is the verdict of the US chief medical adviser. Dr Anthony Fauci. It's a stark warning for a nation and a world eager to get back to business and reopened their economies despite people's very real financial pain. Most though don't want to open up and less corona virus is under control and if sauce. Maury poll finds that here in the UK and in Canada seventy percent of people say they are against such a move while in the United States. Fifty nine percent say they oppose opening up too early. But at the same time a whopping majority of Americans of all political stripes fear an economic collapse according to absorb axios poll so since public health and the global economy. Go Hand in hand. What is the best and the safest way out of this unprecedented crisis with no vaccine or treatment available yet joining me now from Easley South Carolina? Is Tim Phillips? Who HEADS THE POWERFUL? Cope Families Conservative advocacy group called Americans for Prosperity Mischief? It's welcome back to the program. And then maybe just begin by asking You. You've seen these polls that are really quite quite firm and what they're saying and you've also living through this dilemma of how do you open up? So what do you make? I know that you've been talking to public health officials and other policy and political types. What is your vision? Sort of the conservative Americans for prosperity vision of opening up safe and sound so to speak. We've got to move as a country beyond the false choice of either shutting everything down indefinitely into the future or opening everything immediately. That's a false choice and this decision is best made on a state by state basis. We're working with governors and legislators and business leaders and workers on a state by state basis. Because it's different what's happening in. New York is different than what's happening in Texas and and everywhere else in this country. We're seeing some positive progress governor Greg Abbott in Texas. I believe is offering while the better examples bringing people together trying to find a reasonable phased in approach that minimizes risk while still getting this economy going again which we have to do because people are hurting out there. And there's a public health cost to the economic activity that is important to understand as well but we can reopen this economy responsible. Way It's best done on a state by state basis. Do I mean how I understand. Exactly what you're saying and it is a big dilemma for everybody. Obviously here in Europe. We've seen countries like Germany which were very very forward leaning and early in the testing that contact tracing all the rest of and you know the Chancellor Angela Merkel has done kind of what you've said sort of like a gradual tailor-made of turning up the dial but today we hear news that it's not such great news. They've had a fractional increase in the number of infections. So a really difficult thing when you hear that and we see the dilemma in your own country. Yeah. It is important to note that we've seen short two or three day increases in infection or Pataudi rates even in states with tight lockdown so it is important to note that I can tell you the approach. We're talking about like in Texas that I mentioned earlier is look as a roadmap at the essential services that have been allowed to remain open. Think about the walmarts. The grocery stores places like that to take an approach which seems to be working over the last several weeks actually over the last month that has kept people safe while still providing basic core needs and services and to slowly expand that. And so. That's what we're doing we have a roadmap From these essential services but now it's time to carefully expand that I think about restaurants looking at them at twenty five percent capacity rather than fifty or seventy five so having tight restrictions to still protect health but that still allows an easing of this economic. Shut Down Because I what Congress has done is passed almost three trillion in aid. And there's talk now of another massive multi trillion dollar effort but the gross domestic product of our nation is over fourteen trillion a year. There's no amount of money on earth that can fund that from month on end as some people are suggesting so this phased in approach it's responsible. We have a road map from the essential services in states that have been allowed to remain open we need to pursue it. It's good that the trump administration has not taken a one-size-fits-all federal approach as some have urged him to do that would be a disaster a country the size of the United States to make California be exactly like Florida Nebraska like New Jersey. Instead we have this opportunity at the state level. We're using it. It's not going to be perfect. Mind you we know that but when you look at the cost of simply shutting everything down indefinitely there's an enormous cost there as well And so we're working at the state level Florida's taking some steps We have a roadmap. Let's follow it. You mentioned president trump and not a one-size-fits-all. Obviously you realize he's come to that because he did. She say I'm in charge. I'm the only authority and and the country will do what I say. And now the governor's as you say. I'll whether Democratic or Republican said well. Actually we need to make it fit our current conditions. So I understand that you kind of agreeing with that. But do you agree. You mentioned the bills to I mean disaster relief. I don't know how you put it any other way. Do you agree that it's absolutely necessary. I know your small government people Americans for prosperity. That's the sort of philosophy of conservativism. But Are you? Are you okay in terms of philosophically with that amount of money? We know that to help people going onto from going under. We did say when this cares. Act was being debated that Congress and the the federal government needed to act. These are times of which we have not seen in our nation's certainly and generations and so they did need to act the paycheck protection program that provides liquidity especially for small and mid sized businesses. That's actually doing some good It's being implemented now and there are some problems here and there but by and large as I talked to small business owners across the country like here in South Carolina. That effort is working so yes. We did see an absolute role for government in this pandemic and the resulting economic crisis. That we're seeing that the question though is what next and after having spent right at three trillion dollars and still having rough edges and parts of that legislation there not being properly implemented. It's time to make sure the government is doing that implementing what has already been passed rather than passing trillions more and. I'll tell you when folks think about a bailout that now is being considered for cities and states across this country. That's a terrible idea what it's going to go toward. Funding unfunded pensions for government employees unions. That have been underfunded for years and we want to make sure that this crisis is not used as an opportunity for politicians of all stripes. Frankly to just start fulfilling their ideological or their cronies stick wish-lists always had in place and so we think careful before considering additional money as you know. Many of the governors have said hang on a second. We Are Net givers to the federal purse. And this is not cronyism this police. It's teachers it's firemen. It's all those kinds of things. I just wanted to as a conservative because the economist has written about this and it's not a liberal Pinko Rag. Is You know it is said that this pandemic shows the need even conservative. Thought to sort of bolster up the federal government's role for the duration of the crisis. And then get back to you know if they want conservative. Thought on spending do agree that this has changed. Perhaps the idea of constantly raining in the purse strings and constantly keeping a tight rein. That's somewhat ironic. Given the fact that our government runs a one trillion dollar deficit vis before the crisis ever head. It's been over four trillion dollars a year. So the idea that government has been somehow starved laughable government has been fed and fed and fed spending is through the roof and by the way under both political parties. Republicans and Democrats alike have driven deficits. We have a debt now over twenty three trillion dollars so the idea that government has somehow been starved is is nonsense but absence mean to people. Well there's a difference between funding government employee unions and actually providing crucial services. We have supported the services and by the way the last round of funding provided an additional seventy five billion dollars for hospitals and we did not oppose that. That was an idea that was a reasonable one because these hospitals are the front lines in the fight against this. The the nurses and the doctors are braving risking their lives and we wanted to see funding to help them so we felt that was a very reasonable. Some seventy five billion dollars that went directly toward hospitals in this last legislative effort. So we do know that so. Many Americans are sacrificing right now to take care of their fellow Americans and we're thankful to God for what they're doing and we are supporting them. We also WanNa make sure though that the tens of millions of Americans suffering right now because they can't work and they can't pay their bills We want to make sure that in a responsible Safeway they are allowed to get back to their livelihoods and their hopes and their dreams. Because that is what's on. Hold Right now. We know this is an easy we know that. And that's why we're calling for an end to the the false choice of saying either. Open up everything tomorrow or shut everything down Christmas. We're saying there's a better way let's find it. Let's work together across business labor political leaders. Let's find it because the rhetoric right now to get beyond that and actually Take care of our country at a time where we're hurting. Yeah so we're not engaging those false choices we know that these go hand in hand and that. It is not a one-size-fits-all so I just wanted to ask you because you seem to have a pretty clear idea of this. I'm you know that what's taken up. Quite a lot of oxygen recently are some of the protests in some states. You know we we've had people and it's been you know being coordinated people like freedom words which was initially founded by the coke brothers. Also the Michigan Element is tied to the Devos family. That's obviously the family of the secretary of Education and also the conservative activist Stephen Moore who sits on the presidential commission. We opening the economy. And yet your group. Americans for prosperity do not support. These protests will explain. What's going on here? Yeah We believe these Americans have a constitutional right to be protesting. We will be clear about that. They're within their rights we also want to affirm they are having enormous hardships. Their jobs their livelihood. They're trying to take care of their families and we are deeply understanding of that. We just believe that it's better at this point to work Together with those in elective office with those in the business and labor world with private sector Because that's the way we're really going to solve this and it's a nuanced position you know what's what should be opened. What whether it's a restaurant today at what capacity or whether it's You know a movie theaters or sporting events there's enormous nuance here. And so we certainly understand the constitutional right and the hardship experienced. We just think there's probably a better way to do that. One no not in any way launch freedom works that's a wholly independent organization So we it's a totally separate organization. All right well I thought it was initially founded by the coke brothers but I will look into that after this. Let me ask you this. Thank you as. We're speaking the Johns Hopkins tracking operation is saying that the United States has now passed the one million infection. Mark is this is this is huge. Obviously the worst in the world. I want to ask you what you think of. Former Republican Senate majority leader. Dr Bill Frist who was on the program yesterday and he was calling for America to take the kind of Big Roll like Manhattan Project. He was talking about to ramp up. Things like you needed in pandemic preparedness testing. Ppi Vaccines Treatments. All the kinds of things that we know are actually not there and therefore cannot help or assist the reopening of the economy. Do you think that is something lacking? Is it something that in the wake of this game changing pandemic your group would consider funding this kind of Manhattan Project for the future? We are already funding multimillion dollar efforts across our broader community From the private sector and actually help those who've been adversely impacted by this crisis. So we're doing that on our own through stand together community that that is part of our broader community. So we're doing that already with multimillion dollar efforts to help people in need. We do think that it's time for innovation and a call to actually look at everything we're doing and try to do it completely different if necessary are certainly better. We applaud the efforts. We've seen at deregulation. You know the the efforts to strip away the barriers that have kept Americans from badly needed drugs or personal protective equipment. we've seen actions happening by the way it's been in both parties at the state level and states controlled by Democrats and Republicans at the federal level by those in Congress and the administration. We have seen some innovations The broadening of telemedicine is is very helpful. My mother is on Medicare. Which is the program for the elderly here in the United States and she has been helped by broadening telemedicine during this time to keeping her safe rather than having to go in protest so we are seeing innovations. That are encouraging. We need to quicken the pace for those and remove the barriers. Because we've gotta find a vaccine and certainly additional drugs that can slow down or treat the symptoms once infection has occurred. And what's helping us with that a lot of the innovation that's already occurred? We also are encouraged that private industry whether it's community banks helping to get the funds out to small businesses through the paycheck protection program. It's a wonderful idea that that wasn't a government program which will take months or years sustained up instead they used the private sector that was already in these local towns and cities to dispense those badly needed funds likewise there's been liability protection to a limited degree. We need more of it by the way. That's helping industry shift over to produce protective equipment and ventilators needed stop so we are seeing someone that innovation. That's a good thing you're talking. You're talking a lot about private but the question is really about whether governments step in on these big issues like the Moonshot Manhattan project. But let's just move that from because I do need to ask you about about the election as you know. Some of president trump's most vociferous allies. Just Take The Wall Street Journal editorial board and others are being a worried. His performance on the on the White House podium some of the more erotic things that come out of his mouth like the disinfectant and all the rest of it I mean really and they're seeing some of the poll numbers go down. I'm wondering what you think about reelection. Chances Even Fox News poll says that in various important areas Joe Biden. Leads president trump right now? We'VE GOT JEFF FLAKE. The former senator. Who said that? He would never on any account vote. For trump and trump's reelection would be bad for the party and bad for the country. You have said that that that back in two thousand nine hundred talk coaxed. Office talked about building a bipartisan coalition to tackle policy programs that you may be open to supporting candidates from all parties in two thousand nine hundred twenty. Democrats and independents as well. Is that still the case it is? We're open to supporting. We WanNA build policy coalitions regardless of party to actually get things done That that needs to happen in this country improving healthcare raining and government spending broader immigration reform. Absolutely I can tell you this. We do a lot of polling Of those the voter universe in these crucial states and politicians in both parties should beware of one key. Point the swing voter universe in this country right now. They feel profoundly impacted in a personal way by. What's happening right now? They are withholding judgement. They're not blaming yet and they're not giving credit yet to either party or any politician. They genuinely awaiting and sometime this fall. They're going to look back on what's happened between now and September October. And they're gonNA make a determination on which political leaders actually showed leadership brought people together to solve this crisis and they're going to punish those who don't so I would urge both parties to keep that in mind that's swing vote our universe. I'm telling you they are hurting. They have a fear level. There's a frustration. There's a desire to get moving again but there's also concern over help And they're looking for leadership they have not yet made a determination. All the polling right now is just that is preliminary polling get to Labor Day and our country early September. They're going to make a decision and I hope these politicians in both parties are keeping that fact in mind. Everybody's feeding such pressure and such right now. Tim Phillips Thank you very much indeed. Us Bank thanks. You going to work and for staying home for treating patients and having patients for being on the front lines while having our backs. Thanks for working together and playing. 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Is Michael Specter staff writer for the New Yorker who's been reporting on vouches work and many other medical and scientific developments for decades and he's also an adjunct professor of bioengineering at Stanford University. He's joining me now from Palo Alto California. Welcome to the program so you know I just want to start by asking you to comment on what Dr. Faucher said today that he was doing it to a Webinar in Washington. That he definitely believes that the virus will be here to stay. We'll come back at some point and it depends on how we deal with it. What what what do you make of what? He's saying what he's telegraphing. He's saying what he says. Which is the truth on? This is sort of obvious to anyone who knows anything about epidemiology. The virus is not going to disappear. It's going to be around. It's going to wax and wane and it will never really be solved until we have a vaccine so the thing we need to do until done is fighting with the tools have and they're not very many. There are some but we need to start using those tools and he also said that he believed. I'm going to get to those tools in a second. He believed that a vaccine. All this virus would respond to a vaccine when you heard some of the discussion probably with Tim Phillips and the idea of trying to speed up this vaccine hunt what what what. What are the tools that just sort of raised that we need to be using one of the must be testing? Vaccine the whole lot right. Testing is the principle thing. I'm going to start at the end though the idea that we're going to speed up the hunt for a vaccine. We're hunting as fast as we can. Every sophisticated medical center in the world is working on this but we have for decades ignored the absolute inevitability of something like this. This is not A. There's nothing surprising about this pandemic viruses. Like SARS it's like Moore's and it's like a bullet comes from about it. Even enters our respiratory system in ways that we understand people like faculty and many many journalists. I am just one but there are lots of others have been writing about the inevitability of something like this for decades but we have always been a sort of quarterly profit company country and we think in terms of a few months. We think in terms of the next problem and I don't want to talk about silver linings and such a disaster but I would like to think finally maybe we would look forward and spend some money to prevent an attack of biology. That is preventable. We don't have to meet we. Can we can defend ourselves enough. Seems to be the most extraordinary thing As as what we have now we only have tested. We don't have drugs. We don't have DOC scene out. Even if the vaccine was really excellent and fast a year would be wonderful. So what we have is a choice. We can all stay inside for a year and I think that is an impossibility for every reason we know or we can in child in the way to do that is to let people know if they've been instructor if they are in fact sick. There is a possibility that if you have been infected and you've gotten over the illness that there's immunity for a while we don't know any of this for sure because there's a lot we don't know but in general that would be a good buck so it'd be nice to know it'd be nice to know if you've been infected would be nice to know if you are infectious. The only way we can know these things is testing in also contact racing. We need if I'm infectious and I go to Walmart. We need to wonder who's come with and and feed me in the last day or two. We need to let those people know this. This is a process with infectious diseases. That's very very old in has been quite successful in the past but requires lots of and to be fed to be fed. Lots of cut well several countries that have to be fair several countries have actually implemented that which is why they've done. I'm better than the UK and the US which was slower. But you know we've been reporting about ramping up the need to ramp up testing and contact tracing and it's just like a daily a daily you scream of of of frustration is. It's difficult to see why and it's not happening and I just wondered whether you think how do you think Dr Fao g is doing because he's also under pressure he's not just the voice that trusted voice but he's really under pressure. I mean look you might have seen it in the Washington examiner just today or yesterday to representatives are to Congress people said you know the epidemic decline. That's taking place so rapidly. Sorry as in the economic decline. That's taking place so rapidly all things comeback to the dynamic Jew of Economic Destruction. Antony fout she and Deborah Berg is simply time for them to be thanked and leave the stage. I mean how does one get ahead when that is put into serious newspapers? You don't I mean we can thank them and let them leave the stage. In many many many more people will die as a result. You know this is not a choice economic prosperity or public health. We can't have the one without the other and if we send people back too soon and without a plan everything will be great for eleven days and then people start getting sick and then we'll get much sicker in our hospitals will be overrun again. And it will be even worse than it was before and then in the fall when it does come back and it's certainly will. We will have to deal with that end influenza and we are not prepared for any of that right now so even if all you care about is the economic prosperity and I don't minimize. This are going through a terrible time. The way to work ourselves out of this is through intelligent public. Health measures is isn't a one or the other thing and the people who say that or even the people who say oh private public partnerships. And you know your last guest said some good things but he also said we've invested millions of dollars. We need to invest billions and billions of dollars. We spent three hundred billion dollars on missile defenses in this country and they don't even work. We don't spend a dollar on viral defenses. And if we actually did that then we would have a system in and I I believe in I may be old fashioned that requires federal leadership. And we don't have better leadership and just quickly before. I get more specifics to Dr Foul. She which I'm so interested about his journey as we said you've been reporting on these these issues for so long. Do you think that will happen? What you've just said the actual moving of priorities to where we actually need them. Don't ask me to doctrine. I don't want to be a pessimist all right. If I looked united my real list I would be pessimistic. Like to think that people might now realized you know I would just like to say this is a terrible terrible pandemic but we could have an influenza pandemic. It would be ten times worse. It wouldn't be surprising it can happen. And if you think this is bad do we really want it to happen again and we know how can it could happen next year could happen. In seventy years we viruses don't have meetings and decide when to attack but we can prepare this and I don't know if we're not gonNA do it now. Especially with the tools we have of bioengineering synthetic biology ability to sort of not. Wait for biology to happen to us. We can decide what biological future we learn in. It's it's really time that we think about that. We care about living. So let me ask you about Anthony Fauci because you know him as well as any reporter around you've known him for the pass thirty six years and we've read and we have heard interviews of him. We've read your profile him. That actually medicine was not his calling from a very young age he really wanted to be a Bossa Blake. Imagine he reports being the high school captain of his basketball team. He was the best shooter. The best shooter at five foot seven inches and And that's what he thought and beyond that it was about humanity's in ancient Greek. It wasn't medicine what brought him. Just give us. It is an extraordinary life story. That's brought him to where he is right now. What are kind of fashion? It is what we have in this country quite frequently. Our students here lot there are students. Who Do the very minimum in terms of taking humanities courses so that they can appeased the school's requirements but still get into medical school thought? She did the opposite. He took the science courses he needed to take to get into medical school but then he he took him any scores since he studied. Latin studied. Greek he studied romance languages. He studied a pistol Mariachi. And I really believe that is why he has always been an effective medical leader. He is I mean this guy long time his not without flaws but I will say this. He has never lied to me. I I. I must have interviewed him a trillion times. He's never lied to meet. He's never misled me. If he can't answer a question he doesn't if he can't participate in something he tells me he tries to give data to people in to do it in ways that they will understand. And that's a kind of simple thing but I think you're grows out of a broader education than a lot of our medical people have now Shannon He. He does seem also to be pretty extraordinary in his trajectory. You know he found a cure to a particularly difficult disease. You're gonNa tell me about in the second. And then he was on the front lines of this terrible virus that started showing itself in the United States in the early nineteen eighties. Hiv AIDS. Any just really turned that story of the disease around and he took a lot of incoming especially from the gay population. The Gay community the activists and yet you know he wasn't so arrogant and all powerful to think we doctors on high can dictate. He he was able to have the people and the facts lead him. It's really important that isn't it? It's very important. It's also very rare. I mean people. Don't do that in general and you know felt. She was presented with a system in which he was a vigorous participant where doctors basically did the research and then they told us what we needed to know and we would say yes doctor and we will take our pills or we would wait for the trials to be done. And that is the authoritarian way. It had always been conducted and then these AIDS activist came along and said we're dying. You have be stupid rules about how we can't take two jobs at once. One of which we need to stay alive and the other one might keep us alive longer because you can only be in a trial if you don't take drugs and we are dying. Are you crazy? And at the very beginning his reaction was no. We know what's better but he started listening. And I think because a lot of these guys were from New York and he has to. He thought the kind of connection in he started talking to them. Some of them are quite brilliant and he realized that what they said was true and that there ought to be a way to be faithful to the medical research so that we can get the data we need but also give people a chance to stay alive. And he adopted that policy was a radical revolutionary change. And it's changed medicine in many many ways in this country and it's really of all the things I've written about in my life and watch it was one of the more exciting things to see. It is remarkable when you just see how it happened. You know Larry Kramer who is the big face of the opposition to what the NIH was doing. Call them at one point a murderer and now calls into hero all these years later of because he changed his mind and he brought in the people who are the most effected. I WanNa ask you also about how Dr Fao g manages. This is six president. He's not had an easy time and how he manages to speak truth to power. He did say this recently. I'm GonNa play what he said about. What if the US had taken this? This current pandemic more seriously sooner. Let me just play a little bit of a soundbite? Obviously if we add right from the very beginning shut everything down it may have been a little bit different but there was a lot of pushback about shutting things down back then so of course. President trump wasn't pleased. Then re tweeted that it was time to fire. Faucher all of that but be that as it may just explain because I think he had an amazing relationship with President George H W Bush who came to him at the NIH wanted to know about AIDS W. Bush himself and and pet far and also with Clinton and Obama. I think thing about I mean first of all. I don't think you last through six presidents these six presidents without upping it politically flexible and he is but I think primarily. He has relied on his ability to tell the truth. And the ability of the leaders of this nation to understand that the truth about molecular biology and viruses in blood cells isn't a republican or a democratic thing and so people have listened to him and they've not sort of judged him as a guy who was appointed by Otto or Reagan. Or anyone else. They just listen to what he's had to say in his records. Been quite good so I think I think right now is very troubling Tantrum if you read my profile. It's it's not a secret that he has basically told. Don't talk to me. I've known this guy a really long time. And he's talking to Steph curry and I'm glad he is but he's talking to lots of people but he isn't supposed to talk to people if they are writing about him and I just feel that is insane. I mean really. We are in a desperate crisis in this country and well we just lost Michael Specter. But you got the gist. A really important look into who? Dr Anthony Fao cheers now well-known. Not just in the United States but all over the world so now to the front lines of this crisis from doctors and nurses to cleaners and bus drivers and all those essential services. Still working so odd for all of us here in the U. K. There's been a minute silence today to remember all the key workers who've died of corona virus on next guest. Dr Richard Levitin has been practicing emergency medicine for three decades. When the virus began to overwhelm New York City at the end of March he rushed from his home in New Hampshire to volunteer at Bellevue Hospital. Where he trained in New York and he speaks now with our Hari Sreenivasan Doctor Levin. You've been an ER doctor thirty years you specialize in Airways you decide in this crisis to volunteer at the hospital. You trained at. How do we keep people from having to be on a ventilator this is the respiratory virus it gets into the lungs and over the period of several days it causes collapse of the air sacs in the lungs and as the oxygen goes slowly down the patients just accommodate they accommodate by breathing a little faster they don't realize it is remarkable drought medicine we see that disease processes that come on slowly are well tolerated by patients so what is isn't about this disease is the onset of this pneumonia takes days and as that happens patients don't feel short of breath but our public health message has been don't go to the hospital unless you're short of breath so this disease is remarkable in two respects ever won a huge number of patients in the healthcare system all at once and that's just the nature of a pandemic but number two they all presented with advanced disease and what I am saying is as we've learned more about this I believe we can change that presentation window from one of advanced disease to more milder and even very mild disease and that that is an enormous Win for the patients and for the system you're saying that our messaging has been inaccurate at least based on what we knew when we knew it because by the time someone is coming to the hospital short of breath? It might already be too late to help them. I don't earn too late. It's the word to use. I think that by the time they are coming to the hospital with subjective shortness abreast. Your name on. It is very advanced but what we learned in New York just over the last month and I say we the credit goes to the front line healthcare workers who overwhelmed you know in Queens Brooklyn. The Bronx realized some very simple things could avoid ventilators simple things like putting nasal. Daniela oxygen at high flows onto people turning them onto their abdomen and so on their stomach that that would boost their oxygen decreases work of breathing. And what we found over. You know and there's just a recent study public about this. I was the last author fellow by the name of Nick. Caputo in the Bronx was the primary author and Reuben. Strayer who's in Brooklyn was also on this paper and what we found was two hundred three patients even moderate to advanced ammonia were able to avoid events later during their asociation. So I don't want to tell people that coming to the hospital means you're too late but I am saying. Is that if we can move if we change the public education if we change the messaging and if we can detect this silently a curry low oxygen level that we can do so much better for these patients. And I believe we're gonNA avoid even more ventilators going forward help. Explain why it's so important to keep people off ventilators in the first place so many lung diseases if we bridge somebody who is having respiratory problems. Their body will recover and they only need it for a few days. And we've learned how to do that in a way not to harm them but in this disease it seems that putting people on ventilators triggers a cascade of other problems like. I said we can fix the one stuff at least by numbers right away but the subsequent problems of blood clots of real failure of other issues and the fact that they required to be on event for so long it is really just overwhelming the system from a resource perspective. So just to explain you get breathing tube you also get to your stomach you get a tube in your ladder you get a central line of Venus line. You get an arterial line. You then need a team of people to move you twice a day and you need. Senate's a lot of senators. Most of these patients required to three Saturdays and then another medicine for their blood pressure so most of these patients aren't were IV pumps all of these tubes all of these lines. They're not moving and because they're so sedated. Otherwise they boxed event and they have to be flipped twice a day. You compare that to a patient who has one. Id Line monitoring getting oxygen awake loose turning themselves in different positions so they opened up areas alone from a these patient positioning maneuvers the resource utilisation. There is a fraction of the resource. Utilization is happening in the ventilated. Icu patients what are the CDC guidelines? On when you should go to the hospital and you're proposing a different view. I am proposing radically different view and Where I live in rural New England. I drive about fifteen miles a convenience store and on the front of door of my seven eleven is a sign. And it says you're not gonNA feel well with Gobert. You may have fevers. You may have muscles. You have stomach aches. You're not gonNA feel well but I'll go to the emergency department. What they're telling people is go to the emergency department. If your fingers or your lips turn blue. And what I'm saying is I think if we move this window of presentation if we educate patients to come in earlier if we can do point of care test in the Er and no okay you have Koga. And then we monitor their oxygen to make a dramatic difference not to one of the things so people are concerned about is if they weren't sick already that going to the Er they're definitely going to be sick because that's where all the sick people are. There's still this hesitation about having to go to a place full of sick people to be tested diagnosed or treated so late. Last night I got an email from an emergency physician in northern Italy and he explained to me. We are seeing earlier cases of illness. And we're doing much better and so I immediately asked him. So why is that? He says well. The patients are no longer scared to come in and so they diagnosed two hundred fifty patients with covert in the emergency department. They sent every one of them home with a tiny little device. A portable you know just consumer grade similar so they sent people home with this tiny little device. One out of twenty five percent came back as their oxygen levels started to go down and they were hospitalized and treated none of those two hundred fifty patients died if we move this whole management of this disease to earlier identification of who has it better pulse sexy matry monitoring in covert positive as well as those at greatest risk for serious illness. I think we can dramatically influence. How this country faces this problem. How we deal with it economically how we deal with it just society and global. You're advocating for the use of a pulse ox. Senator almost like a thermometer that we have at home. Yeah I think we would do much better as a country. If in the medicine cabinet of every American was pulse. Exeter anis-ur monitor and ideally a phone. Call away is a physician who you can talk to about how you're feeling and hey these are my numbers if you are extraordinarily wealthy and you have a concierge physician. This is not a radical concept. This is being done on this. This has been done with all of these people and people say well. You know that's GonNa cost rush on these and you're GonNa you know it's GonNa cause a shortage well in the hospital at different one you know in the hospital. What we're using this The hospital great. But I don't control the supply of these devices. You know people on twitter have said to me. Oh the people who need them aren't going to get well. I don't control the world's plot but if I did what I would say is overnight tomorrow. Let's make sure that every assisted living community every nursing home is checking. The elderly with pulse symmetry early and continuously. You know if we did that we would identify the elderly. Who can't communicate with us as well with what's going on with her so if we I did all of the altar and then we did every covert pasta patient with sex imagery. I think we would have a dramatic impact on this disease. What do we know about the pneumonia? That's presenting here verses. What the influenza does to a body well so influence obviously across the mountain and it can cause death The reason why this viruses honestly so scary too many is because a lot of the advance the the Monja silently advances so the human body does not have a lot of responses to low oxygen. It basically has one response. Initially which is you. Breathe faster and we know that among pilots if the oxygen levels drop quickly pilots pass out. But we've also learned with climbers that if you slowly go down to two and the oxygen is diminishing rapidly as you climb as you get fifteen at twenty thousand feet and the summit of Everest Yossi level is one third that it is that it is on sea level but human body and its act. So what we're seeing. This disease is oxygen levels and blood guesses that I've measured in patients that Rizal Summit of Everest and yet the patient sitting there on their cell phone and you know there are other reasons why this is so different than every pneumonia. Most ammonia has caused a problem with both oxygen and carbon dioxide. And when you acutely drop oxygen you pass out so choking drowning other acute problems that hit the lungs. If you don't get enough oxygen to your brain you pass out or you sees when your lungs don't work in the stiff carbon dioxide builds up and that has an effect so patients become some knowledge so clinicians worldwide are looking at patients. Who have x-rays that looked as bad as anything I've ever seen with oxygen levels that are basically seemingly incompatible with life and yet these people are on their cellphones? And what happened early in this? Pandemic is the belief that well there are about to die. Let's put him on a ventilator and what we realize and in hindsight is now better understood. They got their slowly. We can correct their oxygenation. And if we keep careful monitoring then and decrease the work of breathing prove their oxygen and keep them cost event. It's actually bad in the midst of this. There are still doctors and California. Who say you know what this is similar influenza? We have to start the economy back. We have to get people going wrong so clearly. We cannot stay hunkered down in our homes for the next three years. I'm not saying that You know an I leave to the public. Health Genealogy People. You know this how do we track? And you know this whole complicated political question frankly about reopening way above my pay grades but this disease is deadly. It is way more deadly than Linda. And you know just by the numbers you look at the excessive death rates all around the world. This is not influenced and the resources that this disease is you know. Demanding from our healthcare system is influence at times twenty or fifty years ago the average length of stay of these covert pneumonia patients who get intimated. They are staying in hospital on average thirty days they are recording to be ventilated for approximately twenty days. That is just incredible like from a resource perspective. You know so to compare this to influence is not direct in terms of what it is doing in terms of demands what it is doing to crushing healthcare system. You know my little hospital up here. In northern New Hampshire is using is losing four million dollars a month. Because we're not doing all the elective stuff because of all the outpatient stuff every tiny hospital across this country which they're fifteen hundred of them are basically facing financial ruin. The cost of this disease is being measured in the hundreds of billions of dollars each one of these ventilated patients. I believe it's probably costing more than one million so to say that this is like Ferenza I think is is not appropriate. We've also seen in the last few days more research going into blood-clotting something that's happening in younger patients discovering this partly because some of those patients are able to get into the system faster. Yeah so this disease is complicated. And as we are encountering hundreds of thousands of patients. Were finding things that this virus does too you know so there are cases of brain infection. Encephalitis this terrible story of this young girl who taught there are cases of the virus affecting the harp myocarditis. We are seeing neurologic complications of this disease on. But you know the overwhelming number of people who die of this disease die of pneumonia. When you look at this disease you know thirty five percent. Roughly one one in three patients who are on a ventilator developed luck lots the number of people who are not on ventilators to develop klutz is one chance of thatch. So what we are learning about. This disease is that we can actually address the lungs early on whether you get on a better leader or you. Don't we can fix oxygen. We can fix the long but what happens on. The ventilator over is multi organ failure one out of six patients on. Ventilators will require dialysis. One out of three to the blood clots still. This is an awful disease and at the end of it. There are many many complications that spread throughout the entire body. You think that we as a society as a healthcare system have the potential so that if or when there is a second wave this fall that we can deal with this better choice. I don't think we have a choice now. I don't believe this war is going to be one through some magic bullets of a vaccine that somehow we're going to get a billion people on the planet I don't think you know we're GONNA come up with a single pill that is going to prevent this from infecting everybody on the planet It would be great if we did. That would be wonderful. I would be happiest happy but I think that what we need to prepare for. Is You know a long slow battle over. Twelve to twenty four months but that through incremental gains we are actually having tremendous effect and what the public needs to know. How is that? Were learning how to do better with this. Simple maneuvers turning people on their stomach. Improving oxygenation avoidance offensive leaders in two out of three patients is is a savings of I mean it's incalculable. It's it's billions and billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives will be saved So yeah I think the public needs to know that this isn't an option like for the foreseeable future until a magic bullet comes along. We need to continue doing these slow incremental gains but the public. I think has not heard this message that we're getting better you know in the ICU the ICU doctors are learning how to better ventilate these patients. So they're getting more people off ventilators who they put on so there are lots of wins happening but the public has this perception. It's all doom and gloom and and I want to tell them that it's not that clinicians on the front lines both New York in Italy or reaching out to me and telling me that you know we're doing better and that's a message of hope original Dan. Thanks for joining us. Thank you very much for having me again. I went to New York for ten days. The heroes in this story are the front line workers in New York City. But it's still great to hear that message of hope and finally the power of creative thinking in these uncertain times one nursery in the Netherlands has transformed the field of famous. Chew lives into a work of art this picture which was taken by a drone over the weekend shows that by cutting the heads of three million of those juleps they were able to carve out a message of solidarity stay strong from Asia to Europe to the. Us artists are spreading powerful messages of hope and resilience. And we're going to leave you with some of these images from around the world. Thanks for watching. And Goodbye from London

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"Thanks. Greetings. People my name is served my God. This is the worst intro. Okay. Before we get started syndrome has annoyed the shit out of. started. You're the only one in the world. that. I am not redoing it. We're continuing I like doing things live. I to show that I can turn any garbage situation like this currently that we're in. Into a good one but this is a survey. Seventy Four Engine discovering words as you went along greetings. People Greetings Peop- I i. think it's because I do the same intro every week and then I switched it up and it. It destroyed me anyway this is episode seventy, four of we say things sponsored by express. VPN. Thank you. Friends will be talking about them as usual a little bit later Sinderen. Thanks for being late again, I appreciate time. Okay that's true. You are on time but then we started late because of your in heart because of men in part because of you ninety, nine percent. That is not that's just flat out not true. Okay. Well, we'll see what the people think that I refer to when I did the intro. Greetings my second alien visiting. Anyway let's get started our patron shots everybody in the in bruised here I'll start the first half. Thank you to an. Odd God I should have had you do this one again and and the mini and then mini. In anonymity is an enemy and an anomaly I still don't remember the first word meant. FAB. Daddy. The Mega Pope I can't actually afford this card seventeen time. NBA Champions I should have deleted that. I did not read the names beforehand. I was not going to mention the Lakers but Erie are. Could be referring to the Boston Celtics actually that's what I'm gonNA look at Ti in New Zealand Zan Xavier Suns Fan Pudge Omega lull on behalf of Ben Hamming Nate Thick Oh zero one, a ham skirts concurs with bamboo brute heads, suggestion of bringing the Ben's together to lead. Bacon no not bacon, the other vacant Jimmy Butler investing his time to master the art of redirecting blood flow to his right ball sack. Means Honestly, I know syndrome doesn't know Jimmy Butler as lick, Shark TM, and holy nine eight eight. Thank you. All right I'll do the second half, which is I. Don't know if it's less or more weird curly less overall. Than the one you just. All right. So we got freshly season go falls change will happen comrade. DIMITRELI SOLVE The Ben Jackson and Ben Broomhead. Novi. Panda DOPP sex is cool. But have you ever tried PS cheval Charleston cover? I didn't look that up not offensive probably not if not if it is I'm sure expiation onboard. Underscore. Ben, Broomhead, getting tired of all of this Ben vs Ben Violence and thinks the Ben should band together to lead the patrons united. Pitch Black wooden aftertaste talk dyslexic lawyer anonymous and Ronnie Keel. Mir has this list been growing lately I feel like we're starting to get a really big names in here, which is awesome. That's good news and it's doing the right. We appreciate this Lauren. Thank you guys very much for for Enbridge to your support, and if you want to support dare listener or viewer or however you get this no other options check out patriot dot com slash. We say things where you can see the incentives and you can chip in as little as I believe. It's two dollars a month to contribute a bit to the show if you would lay offs, right? First thing I want to talk about Senator is time stamps for Youtube. Oh, a lot of people probably watch the last episode of Me Complaining About Time Sam's not working and then it worked. Thank you to I believe it was velocity in my discord for instructing me how to fix it. It was a very easy fix that youtube themselves. Tireless. Ease in you didn't do it for weeks. Well. Okay. So the the issue was that I had the time of the PODCAST which was ten colon thirty cat or whatever it is. Right So the colon forever reason just throws off all the time stamps stuff from working but the issue is I had gone back in a previous episode and deleted everything except the times and it did not work but I think it was because of a caching issue. So I just assumed it was not any of that stuff so I think. Again Youtube did not know the problem. To. Their own issue. but it's fixed so. Thank you. Very much I should have complained. So I think from now on whatever I'm WanNa Complain About Something Syndrome I'm going to do it right away. Not Wait any longer k. hope that's okay with you. That's a great. That's a great like attitude to have. If there's anything you dislike you just complain about it loud and clear and people will fix it for you. That's right. That's exactly how the world works. Do that out in public to. I think a suns fan recommends. This is GonNa be a different one I got an email from a young man named Flam saying everything correctly braver. He wrote this to me your endless NBA ranch to a confused Syndrome as well as your love of the sons in particular were huge inspirations for video project I made for class. Your podcast is the only reason why anything about basketball so thank you and then he ends up linking me which if you're watching live, you want understand this but I will be putting the Youtube link in the comments I. Highly recommend you guys watch it. I thought it was hilarious. It's like a quick little five minute. Fake documentary that's I don't want to spoil it, but I personally found it hilarious. Senate you it's really well-made made. For a project, Legrand I thought it was too. Yeah. So thank you for it. Felt really good to read I. It's funny too. I did not think I mean obviously a lot of people complain about me talking about the NBA Syndrome but to have so many people reach out and say that it's really cool for you to talk about something that they may not care about but you're so passionate about it makes it more interesting which. That's that's really cool. So thank you I. Wish. About anything. But that stopped ten years ago your robot we understand that but that's why we love you. Yeah. I, mean I'm just there. I. Mean That's not untrue. We're not talking about the Lakers so I think first syndrome. Doda to. I ten as. The battle passes ended we are at forty million. We barely made it to forty million many people thought that it was not going to happen. Myself included. I can't even remember what I predicted but. Then you bring a thirty seven or something or maybe me. I can't remember anymore. But either way we got our ten levels center, which is the exact amount I needed to unlock the pudge persona. Oh. I just left it up to fate in I, left it up to that one. Eight, one to have. A squeaky toy running around in the game the night we'll have it. Are you going to use it though? I used it today for the first time and I'm unsure if I want to continue it's it's not that bad it's pretty good. is another issue again try to send him I'm guessing you're the same way where you just have so many cool pudge items already that you can't equip them right So. Yeah it's Kinda until that one of the immortals one of the ultra. At this time, right? So they're kind of like competing internally and the ultra rare is really nice. So. I I'm looking forward to items actually coming out that work on any personas like right now they're just bare bones, which is weird but yeah. Yeah So in addition to the forty million being reached and the ten levels we got our. Okay. This is going to turn into a big rant. I'm debating how Ham I want to go on this. I'm just going to the community that they're fucking stupid. Do It i? I actually played it I. Did again I literally swayed. By Express VPN, the community is fucking stupid. That's true though. It's not in. Actually find my tweet. I literally tweet I did not realize that is true there. I did not realize the community was this in fact this stupid. But today marks the end of the international ten battle patsies. Thank you to everyone who participated while this year didn't end with team hosting hoisting. Excuse me the ages all of us at Valve hope that you and your family remain healthy and we look forward to gathering everyone together for Ti. Ten With the closer the season, we are pleased to announce the result of the twenty twenty Arcana vote this year the community casts millions of votes of two of the purpose heroes in Doda to not to pool faceless void inspector with a split of twenty seven point four, million votes to twenty. Four point nine, million. This year is our Khanna winner is specter. They didn't write that part. That's my addition, the team, the how do you tell that? How would you vote? The team will set out to design an Arcana befitting mercurial the specter channeling her dark energy into forms heretofore unimagined. How will haunt her corey in what Mannequin Hover fraction erode enemies when talking. When taking aim with her spectral dagger what deadly color will she glow? Yes purple. Obviously. But what shade of purple see that I feel like was shared towards a community syndrome, won't investigate a moment. Sit Tight lavender lovers, plum puffs. Plum buffs. What does the plum? Buff? Plum puffs makes more sense and violet voters with time all or maybe some of these questions will be answered. Syndrome. Yeah Specter fucking sucks for cosmetics why believe the last two lines because we're GONNA talk about that as the next topic. Obviously. Well. About Specter, do you think it was shade that they threw when they wrote that one line? Oh I think it is throwing shade of the community for the not falling color guidelines anymore or no not that about what the exciting ebay do there's throwing shade. Okay let me put this in perspective. We've talked about this before and I don't even know if any of these people even work at valve anymore but. Remember when they used to have the voice voting for ti changing voice lines specter one, one year right blue probably its ti four because that's when the last time I even visited the vowel offices and I talked to evaluate play and they're like we have no idea what the community wants. We have no idea why they voted for this. We don't know what we need to change for it like it. There's only so much you can do with Specter and I think the same thing applies. To an Arcana, because it's not a persona, this is the thing that I need to make clear if it's a persona, you can change anything pretty much. You can put her on a fucking horse for God's sake and yeah, that would be awesome. That is not going to happen with Arcana what are you going to change haunt? Like who gives a shit illusions horrible choice. Horrible. Okay. So the alternative faceless void and I think we both agreed that void would have been a better choice could do cooler stuff. Now, who do you think I voted for? Of, those two I hope you picked void. It's a trick question. I give. So little of a shit about both and I thought. Wow. That's just didn't. Send their and you're. Like wow I really feel nothing. You. Every vote matters and for you you had sixty to as well. It could not have swung the pendulum. But if enough people for God and all of them wanted to vote for void, we might be responsible here. I. Agree. That's is a good works. This is a good metaphor for real elections. Vote doesn't matter I'm not going to go vote I'm just one in two, hundred, million but. While if there's twenty million people that think like that, then all of a sudden. That's right all of a sudden things change for sure just I'm just puzzled I'll be honest like how does this hero gets so far every year what is it that people are hoping for or love so much about specter I understand that people want carries to have them. More than supports for the most part ogre somehow was an anomaly last year but. Let me Spector. I. Have an idea why okay number one year right first of all the carry aspect right more people I haven't looked at the numbers, but I would not be surprised more people play specter than void because Specter is easier than what you just get items you farm, and if they hit you, they take damage as opposed to void where there's a lot of pressure of actually having a good chronic not fucking up your team. I'm sure fails of the weak has something to do with a lot of PTSD, from people fleeing void. So that aspect, I Understand the other one, which I totally do not understand although. Okay. Let Me Rephrase I. Know What it is, but I don't understand why they would have this logic at all is and I saw a lot of comments about how void has a lot of immortals and Specter does not and my answer there's a fucking reason because the immortals for specter would be garbage because the spells aren't gonNA look cool. Come on man like use some commonsense. Jesus. What if dispersion dropped like when it reflects instead of these like black particles, it just reflects like cocoa puffs or something. That would be more of a persona level effect and yes, I would love that and vowed if you're listening if you want to challenge. Every time somebody hits spectrum dispersion goes off, you have the south. In the background, then I will be all in this Arcana. But I know it's not going to happen. Because our CONNAH's are not that cool there. Okay. Be Corrected by chat by the way Rubik did win as well. Right so that was another. One. I. Mean technically core. Can Be Played So mostly it was more moving I. Just it just makes way more sense why people want Rubik to win right? It's like okay you can do so much stuff. That's a hero that technically has all spells. So there's a lot of fun in imagining how Valberg and a handle that with an Arcana. So to me that one is way more obvious than say spector. So if we take away the fact that we have like. The premier heroes like Rubik and pudge that most people would want to get narcan they're done. Spectrum would still be pretty far down my list of heroes that I would want to win this like. Probably bottom quarter of all heroes in the game I agree. So I'm just surprised that it won the whole thing. So like from my perspective, Connah's can be really cool. But. It's all about what they are and how much you can improve upon them. And I don't think you can do that with Specter right I mean technically ogre isn't a persona and they added amount. So if they amount to specter then. Okay. Then I'll eat my words and I'll say this was a good vote that's fine. But can you imagine specter just looking like? I can't. Do just reminded me of heroes of the storm where there's who is is Arthur's riding around on the unit. Will everybody could write a uniform Diablo? I would love that. Through the mention that in Doda Specter riding on a unicorn. L. Say next year, and I would throw a year. I'll see next year will be a persona and we'll get the horse finally. That's fine I'm down that Legion commander can definitely riding a horse. I think they'll be cool Dav. If you're listening again I, know you guys watch this religiously you'll love syndrome very much. Just pretend it's him saying this when you come out the C. Persona with the Horse, the horse has to be fat. I will not be okay with a skinny fucking horse, it has to be thick. It doesn't need to be, obese. It needs to be thick it could be muscular as well. There could be a combination if it's a skinny fucking horse is going to be super disappointed just saying right now. Okay So that's my rant on the Arcana. But that last part of the post as you were alluding to center, they writ, they wrote they writ also next week, we're releasing some new updates to Doda plus along. With among them will be updates to guilds a new Doda plus season and a new Mr reset mechanism. Mechanism What is what does this mean? Sinderen does this mean we do it different calibration or that they changed the system. Like a mechanism almost sounds like you individually get to choose how and when to use it. I'll let you tell. What happens but it's just the wording a bit weird. Then my opinion. UPDATES to guilds and Udoda plus season. So do you think? Guilt will just be part though to plus. Yes. Okay I think so too and I think a good move, it brings a lot more valued plus yep and then instead of giving battle pest points, you probably get shards for doing guilt quests and I think that's great I definitely think they should do that which means. Sets right for Delta plus as well off probably when updates. But what else could they do? Right we've talked to us the communities like we need more content. Doda plus plus I've unsubscribe Blah Blah Blah. What do you want? Like what can this thing have in? Except more sets and have access to like a custom game mode that you only have with Doda plus now I don't think. So should it have? It doesn't need to be Andy than it does I don't know. What look at it this way what is the reason people are complaining? Is it because they don't think that the features that are currently in our good enough in like on in concept or is it because they just haven't updated those in forever I? Think it's the latter thing if they just keep if it's a regular set remains broken, right? That's my point like, why do you want update something if it's functioning the way that's intended like? Wouldn't that let's say timers or. The trends page where you can look at win rates heroes and all this stuff now if it's working properly. And it has the functionality that you want to have. You can't update it right. I'll okay candidates the wrong word but do you is there any point and updating systems that are working correctly? Is some of the say you want dates? Is it just more sets? Yes. Definitely more sets and you need to update the relics right or whatever they're called. Yeah you need a one better. Because the ones that track stuff that doesn't exist in the game I think just lazy and all that should be fixed and the weather Ext. the way that I look at it is Doda plus kind of it's kind of like its own economy right and right now you're getting a bunch of shards and he can't spend I. Mean you can. You don't want to spend on anything because there's nothing cool because nothing's new. So new sets you can put announcer packs that. Are Only, Doda plus you can put new terrains that are only two plus like there's so many things that are in the workshop that vow doesn't do anything with that they can put in or just added onto one just in case you want to add stuff not update current stuff is and I think something that make it a little bit more interest I agree with her it's not just like bringing content and just having it sit there maybe making it more like. I don't WanNA bring up riot games a little bit more like Valent, for example, which is the part I don't like about the shot, but in Doda plus it makes it a little bit more sense where you come out with a bunch of stuff that's only available for a certain time, and then it goes on to the next season and then this new stuff that replaces it instead of. Just, having this stuff always there that way you have to make a decision whether you wanna spend your shards or not I? Think that adds more value to the idea of having Doda plus instead of just you just have a collection of garbage sitting there for literally years now, right so we'd have a rotation of some kind I think that freshens it up but shouldn't just be sets terrain. I think it's great announcers and streaks stuff like that. Yeah. Anything Coke's. For sure I'm done with that. Yeah. So so basically, we agree that the update should be in adding stuff on top but that the current stuff that's in the game is basically functional. There's nothing that's broken except a couple of the relics that are tracking stuff that doesn't exist or is impossible. it's not bringing. The ring of weather affects as well. I think the problem I, what other weather effects can you put in? I was actually looking at that like a year ago like. What what else can they do a blizzard? The make shit like you can make the snow? Yeah. Make it more pronounced I don't know. If they come up with pretty much everything stage. But Raining Lava Zada thing they have like acsh- close enough. Raining lava classic whatever. Moving on. A couple different news topics about tournaments, which is really cool. Malveaux will be helping a couple. South. American tournaments the price of forty, five, thousand dollars they're going to be occurring When was the actual date throughout to write that one down? I GUESS Actually have no idea what the data's but to South American tournaments will be in part sponsored. If you will by I, don't know if you want to call it sponsored but valve will be funded hitching in. Partially I don't think he'd even specifies how much they're giving but. Either way really really good to see, and then what kind of couple this in with. The the summit Doda summit thirteen being announced, which is also partially funded by valve they're going to be doing an e you CIS Division Sea Division and an a essay division a total prize pool of quarter million dollars cinder and this is between October twenty first and November eighth has been Damn. My throat is being hasn't been announced, which what the split is of prize money. It hasn't right I. Don't I I. Know What it is, but I don't know if it's been announced. Okay. Say anything no no, that's not one hundred percent. Sure. But I, mean, it's not rocket science that UCLA has probably gets the biggest one, right but then between NASA and sea, it's Not. Sure what you would value more in that event now comments thanks for joining us Yeah I'm just saying UCS that. The trend lately has been that the EU price are just way bigger now, and I'm imagining that will continue but I don't I don't like the gravity that has been bigger by. Like we've had these tournaments at USC price pool off a quarter million and then has played for like thirty K. or forty K. or something. And I get that the region way less competitive but you're not exactly. Fostering more competitive investment for people if there's very few tournaments and they're playing for very little compared to investing a bit more into it or. Let's say, instead of having one tournament with forty k. then you have. To tournaments with forty each or something like that. If you don't want to make just one event and one team or two or three teams whatever take the cake there it'd be nice to to see a little bit more coming into the region. I. Think Again I need said Right now oh yeah. All the ORCS of back Dow basically because there's not much going on. So kind of to pull in a UP. Again. Yes enemies a lot of help. No doubt about it. We're going to look forward to those tournaments. Now, my question to you since this is kind of. Just piggyback off of that news. So Valve is supporting these tournaments What do you think and this is pure conjecture I have no clue what any requirements if any, what do you think the requirements should be? Are they just literally giving money? Or is there not the right word is a catch? Is there something that needs to be done? To earn I think. So if you I think they need to promote steam the are. On that needs a lot of help I stopped using that months ago. Holy Shit what a waste of money. needs to promote steam VR and the index. That's the time zones. Our will. Yeah. Then Valpo will. So what you're saying is the MIDAS SMILE I don't think he are gonNA. If I'm Belvin this position, I, think the main thing that you're looking out for us. Authenticity. Basically. Like if you are putting money into because you've had these really bad experiences in the past right with was g see Thailand or whatever where not just both GMC tournaments. Yeah. There's been to two events or maybe even three four by now in total I think valve only part of one or two of them to probably. that. Just. Being scams, right like or at least the money didn't get paid out at MIT might not have been intended to be a scam in the end it became one whatever the intentions were. It doesn't really matter in that sense it's the outcome. I think valve will try very much to protect themselves against that. So working with either repeatable organizations or people that they've worked with in the past where it worked rights, for example, for this is bt s and be. A pretty safe bet when it comes to authenticity for tournaments right like. They're not gonNA pull shit So I think that's what they're looking for. If they feel like it's a trustworthy tournament and maybe the organizer pitches to the album they're like this is the price school. We WanNa run the tournament these teams we want to try to get and then valve is like, yes. Now that's my guess that's how it works. So it's When a government basher out. Companies is this like the bailout for Doda? Almost. Like no strings attached just get some money and helps promote the game a little bit more can kind of see it. But I. I don't know if the prospectus comparable when the government bails out companies is also because of the perspective that. It will bring back in turn over time to the country. Again, it's kind of like an investment if you will. I kinda if that's the way you think about it then that's pretty accurate. I think I think that's thinking. About it breathe some life into the game. I agree competitively, and it will bring a return long-term. That's. How what's your work? Next thing is also tournament related. This one came out of nowhere. I don't even know what to think so. The Saudi Federation for Electronic, an intellectual sports will be running a five hundred thousand dollar tournament I believe it was at two million ri-als which is equivalent to five hundred, thousand dollars. Between the months of October ninth and December thirty first. This is out of. So. I've obviously had some history Saudi Arabia you know having grown up there and whatnot. So I always have like this. I don't know if affinity is the right word but I root on people that are of Middle Eastern descent when they're playing because it's such a small minority, right? So like Is, basically, collect a collective of a bunch of Middle Eastern people. I don't know anybody like anybody that plays from Saudi Arabia I duNno Saudi Arabia even recognize owed to. Strange. So. So this tournament just to be clear is for Saudi. Arabian players only. Yeah. It's not for the Middle East in general and just called the Saudi Arabian leak. Like it doesn't. Article that we've read what the limitations are for entry. Does five, hundred thousand dollars professional teams of Saudi Arabia region region. Was the Saudi Arabia region as an Saudi Arabia or The middle region maybe it's a sad writing I don't know it. So it could mean a multiple think if it's Middle Eastern, they would have said Middle Eastern. But if it's Saudi Arabian, it could it could mean like some of the countries like around like you know like, Yemen or like Dubai, for example, is probably the most popular eastport area in that region. but I believe five hundred thousand dollars is split between Doda and two other games that they haven't announced yet. But either way that's a shit ton of money Fika? I think is one of them actually. But really out of nowhere. And very interesting. I'M GONNA keep my eye on this one for sure. So it says eight best professional teams of Saudi Arabia region will be competing in the first tournament of the event. So I'm guessing that's And Those eight teams of Saudi Arabia, who are they? What are the best teams in Saudi Arabia? Doda. If United Radio in players, there's not. Yeah I mean it's definitely not a top tier tournament by any means, but is it even to your three? No there's. Player quality I know. I'm trying to think about their some players that might be Saudi Arabia that actually immortal but I'm not sure if they are. I don't think so. It really doesn't sound familiar. So. You'd know better than me. But I've never heard of even one team being Saudi Arabian before so. Question is if these professional teams of Saudi Arabia are allowed to take place from the other regions? That's what I'm looking at here because I know quite a few players from the Middle East that are very high Mr. so if it wasn't Saudi only, you could see some familiar faces in this tournament like for example, offer Moosh or manage or of course. Some of the players from `Nigma if they got into this Yeah. But considering `Nigma haven't announced anything about it. We're going to they're not playing it either because they didn't choose to or because they weren't allowed to I want to say the country that's produced the most players that I've consistently heard of his Jordan would you agree with that from the middle of? The most players you've heard about yeah, which does China, but I don't know if the Middle East Oh. Yeah. For sure I Jordan is the hot spot forever, and that's not that far from Saudi. Arabia? So Yeah. So who who have you heard from Jordan? Miracle. Is One. WHO's the other guy? Might just two people honestly I yep. Sore and maybe there's words we're actually. But even three would be more than any other middle. Eastern. Region because what is G. H. is Lebanon. Lebanese and then. We is. Between Syrian Romanian I consider him Syrian but I know he doesn't because I actually didn't know I thought he was just Flat out the first time I talked with him. I knew he was Middle Eastern right away. Is based on his accent. But, yeah. But yeah, it's really cool to have players in that region and We'll see what the future holds. This is out of nowhere. So I don't know how to react honestly. No, it's been so little promoted. The fact that this article came out after the tournament began it's Kinda. Interesting I, don't know that's true. I forgot it was even October now Jesus. Yeah. The. Going in some capacity, but we just don't know the stretcher. Good stuff still. Next thing the list is potential roster shuffles whatever you. WanNa call it for the CIS region most specifically for VP. I believe that this is a new team not related to VP, but it will be taking some players from VP as there are. Shots, which this is what I don't understand. How are their screen shots conversation. Between our OT K and what's this guy's name Roman the old CEO for VP there's private Combo meal. Or see you. Despise say that he was the CEO. Okay. Okay. So there's a conversation with him and are not talking about him coming to coach this team, which is we'll talk about that in a moment but right now, the Rosser supposedly is Ramsey's position one mail edition to no one off lean. And Solo being the position five and we're not sure who the four is yet although there's rumors that it's Yom itch. Which means that? Resume I mean, this isn't vp anymore, but again be had rebuilt completely. What are your thoughts on this potential lineup with ROTC K. as again, potentially a coach. I think a lot of people so supposedly. So first of all the reason this has been become public that apparently was leaked on our k stream or something I think he showed screen. And the conversations were on there. I don't know if it was intended or not. It doesn't say anything about those two screen shots rang about whether he was showing it off to his fans or something hopefully, he wasn't doing it on purpose it'd be pretty should in my opinion The position for Yemen which which I think a lot of people haven't really heard about i. think he has been or is ranked one on the European leaderboard playing almost exclusively position for I believe so very talented player and he has played in some other teams. So I, think. It's kind of something that's solo has done with his teams. Right is trying to take up and coming players. It's what he did with someone like no one in back. Then is what he did with Ramsey's You know at this point obviously established names, but they were given the chance at some point. So I think he's a very interesting player and I think he could definitely fit but the core of this team who knows dude like this star studded, right? No doubt about that I mean, it's just it's such a throwback to win some Aylwin offline like you take one and put him off lane it could be great. It could fall flat. He has been playing a lot of offline lately and pubs so that part of it makes me believe this is definitely true at least that he will play that role. Whether this will be the final team crushed Mark Ramsey's has been playing a lot of carry lately instead of offline. So those two things definitely up with what I'm seeing in terms of roles but outside of that no idea man No idea and semillas a fit in this team who else like it? So I think a lot of people will be like this is never going to work like these people are it's too many personalities that are going to clash. It will never work and then sometimes just does and sometimes it just doesn't. they're definitely not liking talent. Let's put it that way. They have. This team would one hundred percent need a life coach I think that goes without saying. Somebody. I. Don't know I I don't know that much about ROTC. Last. I. Checked his English was not great. And consumer. Probably worst I mean, maybe I'm wrong. I mean certainly doesn't speak. Russian. So this makes me think that they will be speaking English. But article brings a shit ton of experience that you never know how that's GonNa work I like the idea of just you know giving it a shot because there's plenty of money in the CIS region. So why not you know throw some money around to see what what clicks? And I think the thing that we kind of brushed over this we assume we'll be a completely new organization so that could if it is successful rival the VP's I. Mean obviously. VP's enormous as a brand but they're going to be going up against them and Novi who has not been successful recently, and by recently I mean pretty much since ti three. Yeah it's it's. It's very interesting to say the least it one of those things it's it looks click beatty but it's I would watch the games. You know there's a good chance of it being real at least based on the roles. and. I think some people will probably have concerns about this team with communication like the good enough English. My experience with these players is that they speak enough English to be playing in an English speaking in all three of them. Ramsey's no one end solo can definitely communicate in English on a level that's required to play So. If they weren't, they wouldn't be getting some male right if this is happening. Right make any sense. Of Pace or shirt like who knows even if you can communicate language might make it slower or less efficient or you're gonNA feel less comfortable in the Games compared to what you usually do in your programs because I think Cry from no one and Solo have never played a non-cis teams on their entire careers. I think they've always spoken Russian in Proto so I don't want to harp on the language barrier because you actually disagree with the language barrier is way bigger than you're giving credit for because we didn't really get to see Ramsey's play that much for Eg because Cohen race kind of just broke apart. So we don't like not to say he can't speak English but yet to understand in a team environment when you're playing intense games. Having to think about what you're saying like in transplanting in your head, which most people that are not super fluent in another language would have to do is a detriment. And to have your coach be the same thing. Even not even the same language that the translating from than anybody else on the team. would be a struggle I would think as well. Here's the five play you get artsy cast coach, and then you get a translator for the coach. So. You can have a translator for the coach. You're GONNA have a life coach for all the Egos I mean what could go wrong? You know? Like is this? Do you think that there's any way? This is not going to be in the CIS region. Could they. Could go anywhere. Where would you WANNA go with this team? Let's say you had your choice of the pig would you go to South America? Honestly, what what reasonably shoes? Or would you go? I mean especially under current conditions you WANNA play in Europe that's where the money is. If if you're a serious top contender, thanks, I mean these players play to win right? They don't play for third place or for. Winning in worse regions, they WanNa play against the best they should play in Europe for sure but they don't even have to play out of Russia necessarily like the ORG could be a western European one for example, or the could have who knows. But so the way that the conversations read they specifically talked about how they weren't going to be really playing together for a few months at least. With ROTC saying he wasn't interested in doing anything for the next two three months. So by that time. Like in terms of price tournaments, we could be having a different conversation but in terms of competition I don't agree that it's not GonNa Change Anytime Soon Europe is. Far the strongest realistically no way. That, any region apart from China gets a strong as Europe in the next three months I just don't see it they not. Rent. The could technically there's not enough top tier teams or potential right now in the other regions that they would catch up to Europe in three months. Sea has somewhat like wildcards. They have like a couple of teams that could rival a bit. South America doesn't and has like maybe one that could rival the best in Europe. So it's like. Yeah. I don't know I would honestly or be really really surprised if they didn't play your but if they don't then China's the place I'm pretty sure about that. Yep agreed. Okay next thing on the list. The last thing for Dodo related subjects. Path of Guardians pogs to join us in there and has been released. Yup. My blood sweat tears and semen were be were put into this MoD Spa Expressway PM. We'll get to that soon. But we came out with two point zero just to give you guys a rundown of exactly what that means essentially if you guys missed it. Pau G-. Got Off to a really good starting in the battle pass Kinda. I don't WanNA, kill it but killed it pretty much is kind of expected. Now the battle passes gone, we're trying to wrap things up again, but we've come out with a new mode called four V four chaos. It has. Start you yeah. I I was thinking. Just makes it's it's too good of an Omar to ignore, right A turbo mode couriers enabled for that mode the fountain fully heels in that mode, the four guardians or place to each corner of the map, and they're fully visible. They're kind of attached each respective base that prevent Snow Bali nature to completely new map like I said, there's a barrier in the middle. So kind of splits the lane into two lanes temporarily, which is cool. The pick stages completely different. Instead of the single draft pick stage it's more random draft. So you get a bigger collection of here's to choose from and the biggest changes. There's custom heroes which I wanNA. Talk about with you I made you watch the spotlight's from these heroes we got buffoon a and thunder bore. I want to discuss them with Sinden to get your thoughts. I want your actual thoughts okay yeah. Why do you think I want actual Jim actual thoughts because I have not consulted you almost anything relating to this. Ma that is true. That was a bad decision to help me but we will get to that. We will get to that I will say as we continue to put new heroes in the game center the next the very next hero is the one that you mean slacks will voice that will happen hunter percent cinema is my favorite hero by far can't wait but the first hero it again, I'm not going to go over all the skills. But is an agility hero who kind of bills like tankeea slash DP s kind of guy. You can watch the spotlight video on Youtube. Channel. Go to cinema. What do you think of this sooner? The the old is by far the most unique. Rai is the most interesting. Part about him. So for the sake of. Well everybody listening or watching if you have the spotlight. Let me see if I remember. So he has he has a spell where he dashes in a direction and then it has like a circular impact. So dashes through people and they hid in the circle impact, they take damage twice. And then it blinds I think in the circle at blinds. Right right now in his second spell is a passive that counterattacks every time he dodges an attack. He just does a regular attack like if you were to just hit on the targets at Bronx artifacts lifestyle, it can crit all of the stuff like it's literally like you hit somebody but it's just accounts few evade yet if you dodge and it is infinite range so you can counterattack even though you're milly hero, you can counter attack a sniper was BALLISTA. Yes. because. That makes sense in your head when you make heroes while at that point, sniper would have an M. K.. B So I would say it's actually. And you can activate you can activate it for increased evasion on a quota. The third skill is. A. Very local down ability that kind of works like echo sabre activate it, and then it deals bonus damage and does mini slow hundred percent for point, six seconds Good. Mary guts and finally his ot all of this is off memory. By the way I. Hope you're proud of me. I am very prom shot on finally is ultimate is really complex. So to make it simple, he spawns four swords of different color on the ground and they have health like plague wards or no like cogs is probably better they take x hits to break. And each of the four swords has different abilities and every time a sort is destroyed. The other ones are empowered and had like scales up. So if there's one sword left that sword is way way stronger than if all fora and the best swords have one damaged one has a mini stun one has a slow. And one has you're you're almost dead the red one you got this shit. What does it do I'll you got the read one? The one that just didn't the green one deals damage what does give you a clue? The green one deals physical damage. Yeah. What does the red ones magical damage? No. Physical What was it? The Red One? Did I don't remember minus armor? MINUS MINUS summer that's true. Okay. So those are his skills and when he has agam him, he can choose to sacrifice. One of his sorts Omar he can destroy one, and then all of the other swords get extra health. So he transmits three to the other sorts, the sorts of to health by default right three, two if two. So each sort can only get hit twice before it breaks and when he use a sacrifice against the other sorts among each other get plus three health in total surface three sorts left when he breaks the not believe that you remember I'm literally left if there's one sword left so he sacrifices the one of two remaining this last sort has five health institute of to. Current very good. So here is why you should have consulted me. please. Give it to me this. Is. Broke you'd think so there is no way. Okay. So it's lineup dependent rights like saying Supernova is fucking broken when the enemy team as four techies without attack speed right? Right. I think specific heroes are good at solving. This bought a lot of heroes. The altea sounds pretty bonkers I'll I'll be honest it's affecting definitely the strongest aspect of him. I will say the fact that you get to choose how like what you want in the moment. This is something that's really powerful in Doda that I don't know how much we haven't really talked about this in the podcast I think but having spells that are multifaceted for. Is always going to be really powerful right when you give the player the choice of what he wants in the moment give spells that are like linear. Let's say like Lena Sun, it's done on the ground that deals damage. Then you have spell like or articles I bell, which can be used offensively as perjure route or defensively as a purge and his second spell, which is a disarm, but also magic immunity like spells like those are really powerful because it gives the player agency over what they want in the moment right this team you're basically saying I have a team fights spell that can be whatever we need. And I choose what I want when I have acts I. It's like I put down all this shit and the enemy team has to deal with it and Oh, this is the kind of fight where our lineup is really good with physical damage. I'm going to the red sorts strong or They're super mobility dependence I'll just make it a slow instead. It's CETERA. Et cetera like you don't a full agency obviously because you can't sacrifice three swords but you get to empower the three most important ones at any moment and what I didn't mention by the way they start with four hundred radius and then they grow by one hundred per second up to nine fifty i. think it was damn good memory holy shit that's like nine fifty am we is. Gargantuan. Half the either get out of these swords or break them. Those are your two options, right? It's a hard counter to the Harrison Tar stampeding runaway something or just became. True I didn't really to be not and snap fire the hardest counters though by Medusa split US destroys it works. Yeah it works. Oh I, thought they were awards. So again okay. Keep his online really different that changes my perspective quite a lot I thought they were words like cogs see can't split Sean Shit now you can splash Okay Dennis not as broken. So. So, the idea behind any of these custom heroes is we want them to be strong specifically in this mode. Otherwise, there's no point in putting them in right and this this old particularly it was so weird when we thought thought of it, like this is I, think maybe the one of the most unique things that if this was put into Doda, we one of the most unique mechanics, the Atari game in my opinion very interesting I, like the I. Love. The concept I, love the concept of the spells and what the hero does idea of you like exactly what you said having agency over what like changing it for each time based on how the fight is going is the reason that I like it so much having said that the numbers obviously could be tweaked right now what percentage with it's not the hugest sample size, two, hundred games played about what win percent you think the food has right now forty five. Correct very good Sinderen. Why was that? Actually on the number? It's like forty four point something that rounds up to forty five. Very good. Yeah. Usually when a new hero comes out, that has options like that people don't play it too well. Yeah I mean I could also just be completely wrong right because I haven't tried it. So I don't know like it's just my gut feel after hearing about it that it sounds crazy but there's plenty of stuff like that where it sounds crazy and then it isn't and there's plenty of stuff like that. Really that good and then the heroes just broken in Doda right? You never really know but I think the concept is Super Fun and I really like his animations. Like half made though Hafiza God forbid I really like the Dash I think it looks super cool. Thank you Senator Okay Second Hero Syndrome which I had a conversation with Brax. Literally I feel like three years ago about this hero because we were just thinking of concepts and he's like Drink Right, we were thinking what hero from Han would you like to port over if you could to Doda? He's like I would love to see Zephyr amazing hero Mike. Okay let's think of a concept that doesn't just take blindly all the skills. Let's. Again, all these years that we're going to be bringing that are. Inspired from Han, there might be a couple of skills that are almost exactly the same but the idea is we want them to feel the same. But. To still have some unique aspect to them at a isn't just copy pasting. So tell me about thunder bore syndrome. Okay. This one I remember way less vividly, which is interesting because it was the second one I watched of the two. K.. Has By that point got. So yeah, basically I was like, okay I've had these four sorts anelle. No so he has. He has a dash or like a jump where he arrives at a location he are charge I think is better to say charges to location, and then he pulls enemies and a cone toward him and many students them are interrupts channeling. Then he has a passive which spawns buddy called pup like a little tornado. Every time he gets the last hit and it lasts for thirty seconds and deals damage over time to nearby enemies and at any point in time, he can eat all of his thunder pumps for health. And When it expires it also heals him. So whenever you've made under pup whether it expires overtime time or by activation, it will heal you and the more active the more damage you do. So just scales linearly. was numbers. It's right. Then what was his third non alty? I remember his all tickets. Is called thunder stop if that helps you remember. Oh. Yeah. He stomps the ground and then he makes three waves of rippling outward going lightning bolts and each wave deals damage slows and you can get hit by all three but the damage isn't that high as one, hundred, thirty, five or something. hundred, twenty, five, I, think close enough. Gatherings you can get hit by all those three and then finally ultimate is a storm which think legion or sorry think Mars arena. But instead of it having walls, it's just a big storm that slows more the closer to the centre as low as eighty percent in the center and ten percent in the periphery. Then you can imagine you put it and when. People try to run away. You can pull them back in with your charge spell. She cast you instantly gain Max thunder instantly gained Max Thunder pups. Yes and if you have thunder pups already they get overwritten, which means you get healed man you are. You can I literally cannot believe that you watch the video wants and remember all of that is CR-. I'm not even kidding I'm not meaning I would not have remember that much not even remotely close is that because I have dementia or are you actually do is your memory that good attention to detail that good your voice is really good. Also paid a lot of attention when I listened to narrate it. Video. So what do you think about this about thunderball about Zephyr reworked? and gets the win rate. So so we're GONNA we need to. We look at in the vacuum for Pau, right not as a concept for Doda. Okay. So for Pug I think the heroes pretty good The game tends to have very clustered fights like everybody's in a small area. So uh, an extremely strong slow like that. As powerful sounds like a godawful here I can speak ab though but level twenty, five talent your cue becomes if you want here's here dkb which. Is Giant. Something Yeah. I don't know I think. He probably has a higher win rate than the other hero because I think it's easier to understand how to execute an I think his spells are more straightforward in the sense. I think both heroes have the inherent weakness being very countered by one item. So mccune is super countered by true strike. And the thunderbirds super countered by magic immunity or resistance. I would guess his win rate is probably somewhere like fifty three or something. So Mahfoud as was forty-six thunderbird is forty four. Oh, lower lower, which surprised again, this is still only less than two hundred games. I think thunderball is stronger than any based on like a all play testing. Thunderbird was consistently very strong and buffoon as a big hit or miss. Okay based on how people play around old but. That one is surprising to me. Oh. What was it? His eggs did oh yeah. His ags true it oh. Yeah. His ags makes his charge instead of being cone becomes circular. So becomes a vacuum when you charge. Yeah. It's more of a low three, hundred radios or something I mean it's definitely. It's like a seventh item I think pretty much. I. Heart of the heroes problem if the win rate is low is probably damage I don't know if it deals enough damage having that altea with the slow. What is his damage? He has three hundred, twenty twenty-five if he hits all three lightning strikes and then he has to charge which deals like two hundred or something. So the way that the key in the Bronx right has individual rings. So yeah, in the let's just assume the first rate you can actually get hit by two of those technically if you're on the periphery xanax sense. To to technically if you can get hit by six if it's like in theory, but it's very, it's like. Yeah there's like individuals shadow raises almost right okay. Yeah. Those are the. Once, again, I like the concept I like the design. Voice that. The Laura Four Walk more and then he left it because it was a board and now has grown up and his angry at. Zeus here's the. Before we move on guys. An easy give some background about this. Okay. So Mahfoud was again like the lure everything basically the whole thing was created by Hoff who's a an artist in the work in the Doda to community? He's done a lot of stuff in the past for like midas dismay and stuff like that He created like literally open it right now there's a document of the Lore and background. It's like Super in-depth he the voice lines that we got a professional actor was just one of his friends to do the voice acting like this long document of his lower. And I looked at it I'm like this is too intimidating try for thunderbird. Let's just have Zeus have sex with the bore and that's the sun thunder but that's it and he hates Zeus. That's it. That's good enough for me. I can't compete with off in. That's how it came to be. You definitely didn't try at least. I did try. That's true. Okay. So with that. 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The you say Yep as if you even played it with me yet, which I've still been begging you. Not. Asked me for two weeks I have him. while. We're not awakened outplay right now let's egg. Let's turn off the podcast and play right now it'll happen to walk my dog. So the new season is about it, I don't think it's a new. Refresh my memory here. So there are episodes and our acts. Okay. One episode lasts for six months. An Act is two months. So there's three acts within an episode. That's their terminology whatever. So Each Act Aka, every two months, they're supposed to be a new hero agent added to the game. Every six months. So every season, there's a new map. The problem is people have been complaining that there's only four maps, which is really awkward when you get to like these best to five grand finals, you don't have fifth map, right? So they had to give this is another complaint I've had about some of their tournaments they give. Like upper bracket advantage like the game advantage which I hate hate hate hate that so much. But they have to because there's only four maps. So they've rushed it. There's a new map called icebox coming out tomorrow it today actually. For the for act three. which I won't really talk about since I, don't know that much about I've only seen a couple of videos, but there's a new hero which has been delayed a couple of weeks. Now because of the map named skies, I wanNA talk about the ability Sinderen. I want your feedback of what you think. Okay. Okay. Can I just say before you start? I like. The Internet, not even listening to my amazing news on Valeron. So. Funny to me how when there's here designs coming out invalid or agent what are the flicker call you? You, ask me my opinion. I've never played the game. Good. I have no idea what's broken. What a good concept is all I know is you have guns spell your legs this hero. Talk in now. That's what makes entertaining. Okay. That's what makes it looks nice. So let me explain this. Some. Old Sky and other horse. She does not have a whore. She's she's Australian. First of all I have to give kudos valve the voice acting in valor is some of the worst I've ever heard. It's so bad like there's the last year then killer Joe I think she's supposed to be German and there is no fucking way that she sounds German Swedish yourself it's horrible. Accent. Intersecting. Though it has maybe the best voice acting I've ever heard on the game it is so fucking good. There's not a single hero in that game that has bad vojtech voice acting except Kid Volker. Menu really hate that fucking kid I need to find his twitter and just tag you. Say that. It's just like we've talked about before with kid in Boca just to clarify it's not bad. It's just not as good as the rest and that makes it stand out to me because the so incredible and I think the kid invoquer voice acting us. All right. Okay so All right. So anyway, sky as they new agent and under the ability of the initiator class, I? Don't know what they call it. Those classes I mean almost nothing unless it's a dualist or. A Sentinel but anyway. So her first ability syndrome, you can buy one of them K. it's a he'll which I'm not I'm not a big lover of healing. In FBI game still. I pay winner window I'm okay. I'm okay with healing yourself but healing other people, I'm just a selfish person inherently the. Game but her heel is a very large area we. You. Activate it and you have a certain amount that you can use and you can stop using it for time being and use more but it heals everybody in this large radius except for yourself it's actually the opposite of what I would have wanted. What do you think of that? What are you gonNA healing teammates? In a very large area. Yes and shooters. I duNNo. Gill next skill is I forget the name it's a trailblazer. I don't know if it's a Wolf I forget what animal it is, but essentially, you become this wolf temporarily cinder and you run to the direction that you want. You have very limited vision. And so essentially, you're getting some information with you know going around corners or whatever, and then if you activated again, the wolf jumps and if it hits somebody it days is them, which means if their scope they get unscathed and rate of fire decreases in their vision decreases legged slowed by fifty percent and they get dismounted, right? Is that actually what happens dismounted now that's what happens when you get in well Oh. Okay. Well. Same Concept. Sorry I. Thought we were talking about games. The other person doesn't care about. So that's true. I I I. Regret Putting this in podcast. I'm sorry the third ability. Is An owl isn't as hawk. Actually you control this hawk. And you can kind of control the movements for a short period of time and you activate again in it flashes. So another flash agent is in the. Places where you tell record a short distance, right? God and you get three of the flashes. But the crazy thing syndrome is when you flash, you get a sound Q. if somebody got flashed by it, that is fucking mind. That's crazy information that you get from that. So you know if you flash somebody which is insane. What what counts is flashing somebody any blind or? that. That's a good question I. Don't know the answer that have not play the hero yet. So we'll see actually you know what? I should just mention I should just I might actually like this game I just haven't played it so I I. Really enjoy I. JUST WANT FBI Games. Do you like have you ever liked? We play counterstrike back in the little bit. See Us go one point six. I've played I think played some modern warfare in modern warfare two years ago. And he love legend. So. Good. I felt those games were but I was playing with friends and that obviously helps make games. Off The best shooters I've played are definitely counterstrike, right? So and you said it's kind of similar to counter strike but then with magic so I mean I might love it. I think I think he would like it. It's not going to take over Dylan for anything but anyway, the ultimate sin for you get three flashes by the way which again. Questionable. At best the ultimate you activate it and then these three beasts of some kind end up going like they cannot be stopped other than shooting them meaning they can go over walls and stuff like that. They basically go and find the nearest enemy. And I can't remember if they do I. Think if they hit them, they get blinded kind of like a nearsighted blind. So the ultimate is kind of like really good. Sit nearsighted I thought when they get blinded like the Kent. contact. I mean, it's not dissimilar thing only sharp close to you, and then far they're and that's actually how it works. If somebody's close you while you're nearsighted blinded, you still see them so. Yeah, but everything lying at right it's not like. You know what I mean yeah, it's not. The flurry yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sounds like a cool concept for a spell though. What is? To take everything. Everybody where strong glasses in the enemy teams, they can't see anything except at a specific distance I feel like they're going to run idea so that that could end up being something on us. Anyway the here is not probably not something I would love to play, but it's an interesting concept the very least I, think our oldest really cool I don't like the fact that they have to agents in the game three flashes each. I don't know why they're doing that, but we'll see. We'll see how shins. And Cinder Nazi because he refuses to play with me, that is actually not the case you're lying once again that's the third time this podcast. Sponsored by Express VPN. So next thing on the list. Of Lying you can now get a razor visa. Card, you can lie to yourself. About that. That is the next topic. Razor has made a Visa Card for gamers that has an led a green led. WH. Why? Why? Why why what? Brand. I. If people like razor and they like it, then they can get a card with it on. I think. This is something I think that gaming peripherals maybe haven't or the the gaming companies may be haven't tried enough compared to other companies is instead of just being the products being more of a lifestyle right I'm not saying that razor should just branch out and make everything from. Shavers to shirts to computer part hosts. Tokyo. But this idea that. I think brands could pull more value more revenue in from trying to become. Like I don't know what I can compare this to be a really good comparison. But I'm sure you know what I mean when I say that right like. That branch, of course, you're nobody you're selling the idea that you're a razor Gamer, not that you're Gamer that uses razor gear note I mean. I'm not. I'm not sure I'm explaining it well I. I understand the concept I. A lot of these companies will do like merch right they'll do merge the older shirts. But for example, I think some organizations in gaming have done a way better than others in activating their merch. So for example, making clothing that feels like everyday wear instead of just a Sports Jersey. Right and so for example, when the just POPs to mind for me as a hundred thieves who have. Cut A lot of effort. INTO MAKING into making clothing that is something you would just wear when you go out, go somewhere everyday life whereas you know a lot of other clothing at least historically with had an e sports like sports jerseys that you would wear when you go to watch the game of your favorite football team or something like that. I think liquid has stepped it up a bit as well just to give some examples about that. So my point is okay that was a bit of a sidetrack. I think that's what razor are trying here. is to make something that's more. Everyday use I'm a razor player and I use razor stuff. So I don't know if I like it by. Okay. Here's the thing I understand the idea branching out and all that stuff and I don't like from a razors perspective there's no reason not to do this. Like, isn't this just an Ed Bennett much to lose like I don't see what the downside is from a consumer I. I find it very weird for if I were to have a razor credit card I don't know what it is just weird. But having said that it's Not for, you right and for me I don't want one either. But I, can totally appreciate the effort and the idea I think it's creative and I brought up toaster cinder and did you know they're actually making a razor toaster? I think that's cool. Are they? started. It started as a joke I can't remember went when they're actually doing it but apparently actually doing it now after the joke so I think that's really cool. Especially considering. Our toaster sucks at us a new toaster. So so I guess I guess what we should add by the way. Sorry about the toaster stuff but I think we need to do the card maybe a little bit more justice because it's not just razor making a card, right? It's not just there's a card with a razor logo on and that's it. they're making payment apt to called razor pay. So. They're trying to get into the payments market basically. And working together with these on this card. and. That it's kind of it's similar to. Apple having taking a cue from it combines digital payments with their own APP yet. So it's And Google pay right. Yeah I. I feel like that is an insurmountable of course. I. I could be wrong. But I mean there's just GonNa beat them but if they can get a market segment or whatever, and it's it's a return investment thing right? They investing a lot into this is branding. I would imagine they don't need to pull millions of people onto their card for it to be profitable. Then I think it's probably weird business move. All right. We're going to still do these two topics that you see. I'm going to end with this one though because it's on a happy note. So let's talk about the not so happy note. Amazon pulls the plug on its first AAA game crucible. I. Believe we talked about crucible briefly. I forget what actual genre was like a it's a, it was a free concert. Was it a shooter Moba shoot or something it was. Something like. So. It had they got feedback it went to closed Beta they had a couple of different data, but they're actually just abandoning it which you don't see that very often and the team is moving onto their other game, which has a lot more promise apparently called new. World. Which is an Imam Oh, which is more pure alley I. Don't know if you've seen any of that. I feel like. So this is what happens right with stuff like this is it's similar to fortnight and pudgy where there's a new fad which is battle royale, and then everybody wants to make a battle royale but there isn't space for ten of those games to be successful at the same time. So for your game to be successful, it really needs to stand out and have something special and guess what Amazon realized. What this game was were trying to do something I remember we talked about what this game had and we were like this is basically the same as x y other games with the exception of this little thing and I guess that little thing wasn't enough poll advertise it aggressively enough or they had other complications whatever it is. In my opinion I mean it's easy for me to say because I'm not a part of it right. But when I look at Game Studios Right now, I feel like people copy a lot with what's Happening you try to get on what has just become hot instead of making the new hot thing. It's it's hard to keep innovating because you know there's only so many things you can imagine for video games but these like ten battle royale that came out half a year to a year after the became popular. Like is that really a good business move for all of them to try that at the same time I mean if You're the best right you made the. He started this conversation with fortnight being the forefront. When really the first explosion pub G. and then they couldn't handle the traffic guy a fortnight took advantage of that made something that was astronomically bigger in every single way, right? Right. But still. I could be wrong here about the time line I feel like fortnight wasn't very much later right? In. A full year after Pudgy, I'd have to look it was close it wasn't I stand corrected them. That's actually a pretty long time. I May. I may have just made that up but that's my I. Don't know I don't know how many of the game came out. I just know the market was flooded with I. Agree. There's there's just kind of. Came big. Then they were like four or five other Mobutu's that try it and did any of them really make it i. don't know what was that. There was a mobile. Strike through bad. what was it was like big God's walking. No not I'm not touching right now not talking nevermind knots might anyway we're. I remember that by name or something, but I can't remember the name the new anyway curious it's not really that surprising. But yeah, I would imagine this is the probably part of the reason they're pulling out that the marcus just over saturated and they wanna make something else. This is what I'll say so I don't remember the specifics behind this game but I remember that they did take it wasn't like a copycat. It wasn't like anything you were just saying, but it was more you're taking concepts from a bunch of game putting putting them together which a lot of times feels very messy and not fun to play but the idea of trying something new I can appreciate like. I I'm not GonNa sit here and say shitty job or anything like that like the fact that Amazon. A lot of people are not rooting for the companies that are just huge, but Amazon hasn't done anything with games. Really. It's only helps us as consumers if they do well. So I'm hoping that they end up coming up with something that is at least semi successful but the reason I brought this up is because not only all that stuff I just said, but also the fact that they abandon it relatively. Quickly I hadn't even been fully released at any point. You don't see that very often like a playable version that a bunch of people have played publicly is abandoned just so sudden ransom. So maybe there's more information that we're not privy to or whatever but probably yeah. But either way, a lot of those deaths will go to the new world game, which is something that will talk about when that comes up. So. All right, and then in Happy News Center and the final thing of the day before we get to the Patriot question Super Nintendo world will be opening its doors in Japan. Next Spring. What the fuck houses the first time heard for I'm not a big nintendo person. Nikki's obsessed with switch but I did grow up with Nintendo Super Nintendo and they have this photo which I thought was literally in game. But apparently, it's a real photo in the real life of what like the store would look like literally just looks like you're in an intendo game. This sounds awesome. There's going to be a Mar.. October sixteenth, which is in three days of this recording. They will come with Mario Cafe and store, which is Kinda like a preview of what's to come, and then who knows what the entire. Super Nintendo were look like, but that sounds fucking cool Holi- show. I don't know. Do you know any? Like what's that anything released about? What is it a theme park or is it like? Like you said supposed to have riots or is it like an exploration thing? You know what I mean? Yeah I have. Based on the article that I read, there was not any detailed information other than. Spring of two, thousand, twenty one is when the entire. Super Mario or Super Nintendo world will come out whatever that means. But just the idea of having rides I think it needs to have right like you can't call something Super Nintendo world not have riots I. Don't think I have something. It could have a lot of like, let's say. I mean I don't know if you qualify if that qualifies as a ride when I say right I mean like. Roller coasters and stuff right but technically, it could have something like this where you walk around and explore and there's like games, not necessarily video games but like. Would you call that a riot because in a theme park you call it a ride if you go to the haunted house, right? Even. Though you're not writing anything you call that a ride t if you're in line for something and it's not food. Right right. Is The haunted house? Really Right. That's what I mean like. This kind of thing could have haunted houses or. Mirror rooms all this kind of stuff without having rollercoasters. But how do you wanted House for Super Mario for saying Superman for supervision booze. Definitely make something. If you wanted to. I mean bows you beat the Shit at the end. We should try to follow up on that if there's a video footage of it at some point next. I I know Nikki wants to go to Japan more than anything else. When this becomes a thing. I would love to go with. With. You guys. We can go as to couples you and Suzie men Nikki. To Super Nintendo world. I'm not leaving and then we go to ambush and then he watched him bridge the back to back vacation. Okay. Oh my goodness. How does that hand bruise? You truly are traveling. Let's just for content syndrome. That's it. Okay. Anyway that is the news for this week that superintendent world sounds really cool. But we'll see if it ends up actually being so so we're GONNA do one male back question day since we're a little over time. this question is from Ronald Loureiro. Wow Ero Loureiro Loureiro Hey, guys. Here's a question for you. How big of an impact is a language barrier have when he played Doda have you ever. Had any problem with that competitive and pubs ps I am Brazilian but live in Canada. So I already had my good share problems concerning language. So I'm sure you have way more than me to say so I'll just give my spiel for me. It hasn't really been that big of a concern. For Doda. Occasionally if you get it for my like I'm playing on West or East Asian I'll get like south. American they'll be in a group in they'll just do their own thing I. personally don't remember any consistent issues. I've ever had I've heard the EU is a real shit show. But. I'll let you enlighten US 'cause so. Issue I think the best. The best answer I have to this is from my experience of playing in a competitive teams I played with Khazar. I think most people won't really recognize him by name and naive who I think more people recognize he's currently playing for Khan I think. There are I think mainly I think the probably the better example of somebody who's his English wasn't the best. He was really willing to learn. He was a great teammate, but his English wasn't so good and it meant when we were talking about like more strategic stuff like watching replays going over plays and what we should do and how we should think about the game He'll get lost a lot on the way like he would not understand parts of what we were talking about or lose focus or you know struggle to really be a part of the conversation and that is obviously a really. Really bad right like it's a shame because I think the guy by the way separate story I think he really wants to improve in English. He wanted to you know get better had the right mentality, but you can't just magically improve overnight. That definitely puts a hamper on team improvement if people can't communicate well it was part of the concerns you had with this potential team with Ramsey's solo. No one. I think their English is better than naive was. based on my own experience. So that's the pro side of it in pub- games if people don't speak the same language or don't speak it well, it's kind of the same thing. Right? It's just the stakes are way lower. You're just playing for a moment, right but it can be frustrating if people are making calls and other people don't listen or don't our standard don't participate because of language issues like I. Have Games where I play there's a lot of very high mark players in Europe that are Russian a lot are Russian and Ukrainian just CIS big in the in the top, the top board. So I have plenty of games where three or four of my teammates are Russian and are speaking. Russian. Basically the whole game. and. I speak English and either it gets ignored or they take it to heart but don't really respond much back sometimes they do. Then go buy Ping's but. I can totally relate to that experience of being the one person who doesn't really get it as like. It's easy to lose focus like there's people talking all the time but you don't know what they're saying. Then you're kind of just playing and you lose track of what's going on. So definitely, yes, it is a barrier in its big. Just the. Thousands of Doda side of it. Right. Then there's the whole social aspect on top of it. Where you know how do you work in the team? If people don't talk together very well, very much. That's also something so I think that bells my heart that goes for pretty much any game that requires teamwork. I believe auto chess does not have that problem because you don't have teammates so. No problem while you might have coaches I, don't know if that game has coaches syndrome, but if it does. Not Mentioning Auto Chess I. It's the I. I was just thinking Solo game for some reason thing that I. Don't know. Okay So that'll put a wrap on seventy four. Thanks for watching guys. Thanks for listening in. Have you seen in Brooch? No. Thanks everybody goodbye. We. A. Thankful.

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Anthony Fauci, Then and Now

"To be really informed, you need to know what's behind the national news stories and what's going on in your neighborhood. Consider this a new podcast from NPR and WNYC helps you make sense of the day subscribed to consider this wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dorothy. Wickham. Done on today's politics more podcast the new. Yorkers Michael Specter talks with Dr Anthony Fauci. They'll discuss the medical communities work to develop a vaccine for Covid nineteen and how Dr Couches experiences during the HIV epidemic have been his view of the corona virus. Donald Trump's absolute disregard for scientific reality whether it's the corona virus or climate change has been a signature of his presidency. His open contempt for putting on a mask was a threat from the first to the countless Americans who choose to emulate him. It endangered in the end, the president's own life and the lives of everyone around him. Last week just as trump was leaving Walter Reed hospital after a stay of three days. Dr Anthony Fauci sat down for a conversation with the New Yorkers Michael Specter. Foul she is the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is a branch of the NIH and he's really the most public voice in this country for medical reason. Michael is a longtime staff right at the New, Yorker covering medicine and the sciences they spoke on Monday. As we are speaking the president of the United States is scheduled to leave hospital any minute. And he's going to go back to the White House and I'm not GonNa ask you to comment on his strange regimen of drugs or how he's feeling I know you're not his personal physician and that's not your thing but I do want to talk about public health because this afternoon he tweeted. No big thing. Don't be afraid of it. and. You know two, hundred, ten, thousand Americans have died in seven million have been infected is it fair to say no big thing don't be afraid of it. Yeah. Well, you know Michael, that's been one of the things that have been. Sort of a bone of contention in communication. Of the seriousness of this. I mean, obviously it's a very unusual athen that can have virtually no effect in the sense of forty percent forty, five percent of people can be without symptoms, and then for those who have symptoms the overwhelming majority of them. A MILD But there are a group of individuals who fall into a certain subset or category namely, the elderly and those with underlying conditions at any age. Who can have a severe outcome? So, when you look at the now, two, hundred, ten, thousand people in in the United States of America. died. And you talk about the seven million have been infected and the one million died globally I think anybody who's looking at this realistically has to say that this is a very serious disease that we need to recognize. White House will now not do any contact tracing from the September twenty six Rose Garden event to celebrate the nomination of judge a Makoni Barrett. Are. You comfortable commenting on that? You. Know the answer to that. No. Not I I don't want to get into what the White House is or is not doing that becomes non. than. Doesn't really help the messages that I'm trying to get across. Sorry my well, let me just I was it was a try. Baloney. Slightly, more general. General way how can we stand this thing out if we don't contact trace, how can we know who's infected and who isn't infected if we don't follow the people who are infected and see who they were in contact worth zero way other than countries. We do need contact contact tracing is important I. Mean it's one of the many tools that we have to try and contain outbreak in his likely. We haven't proven it yet but likely that in a symptomatic person during that gathering at the white. House again, the chain of transmission obviously occurred within that group I must tell you Michael that in this situation that we're in. We're of infection comes to a great extent. People without symptoms. It becomes very difficult. And problematic to do adequate contact tracing even if you wanted to do adequate on tech tracing. The community spread among people without symptoms make that. Very. Difficult. We have a real problem in this country with people believing in vaccines they are hesitant. I'm not even talking about the hardcore anti vaccine activists just people who are afraid. And what has gone on with the discussion of the vaccine until now has not made people more confident. They say to the tune of about forty percent that they won't take the vaccine. How do we get people back to the point where they think that things that will save their lives will actually save their lives. No Michael is not going to be an easy answer to that. First of all, we need to be completely transparent and consistent in what we do. This is true for everyone out there it becomes even more imperative to do that. With minority communities because traditionally and historically minority communities have not been served well. By the governments and by society in general and they don't trust authority for a number of reasons, many of which are really justified. So you've got overcome at varian that's what we try to do. We try to get community people who they trust. To, go into the community and tried to get them to understand. Importance for their own health. But. Also for the health of the community in would be tragic if we do get a safe effective scene, but they don't benefit from it. Because A, they refused to get involved in the clinical trials or be once the clinical trials are over they don't believe that the vaccine is safe and effective for them. They don't take it. When in fact they they stand to benefit the most? Safe and effective axiom. When you describe this makes me wonder how short of very effective in which even if we're lucky, it's not going to happen soon, it's not going to be distributed immediately we are going to get out of this. It looks like we have a long way to go in this pandemic before we go to the movie, are we ever going to go to the movies? Yes we are Michael and I'll even. Buy A ticket go together to alleviate your anxiety. You know we will start. So I get. All the time. When are we going to get back to something that closely resembles or is in fact normal as we knew it It is likely that we will know that we have a safe and effective AC seen. Let's say November or December of this year. That I have cautious optimism that we will have a vaccine we're already making doses. Doses tens and hundreds of millions of doses to be ready. I at least in greater numbers at the end of the year in November December, and then we get into January very march April. By, the time we get to, April we will have doses be able to vaccinate anybody who needs to be vaccinated but. You need to have a highly effective vaccine and you need to get a substantial proportion, the population vaccinated. So let's say we get a seventy percent effective vaccine. I. Hope we will get. Only sixty percent of the people get vaccinated. They were going to be a lot of vulnerable people out there which means that the vaccine will greatly help us to pull back bid on the restrictions that we have now to maintain good public health. But it's not going to eliminate things like mask-wearing avoiding crowds and things like that. So I think we can approach normality. We may have theaters where you gotTA. Make sure that you don't have full capacity. May Be. Aware a mask at the theater at may go on for months and months I can't predict how long but I don't think we're going to be back to normal until the end of twenty twenty one and that's just a prediction in we may do better than that I. Hope so but I don't think so. I WANNA. Switch a bit to the AIDS era. There was a guy who died this year who is very important to both of us he. Held both of us murderers at different points in our life, but we ended up. Being somewhat close to him and I wanted to play just one little interaction between you and the person I'm talking about for those who are out there as Larry. Kramer. who was a signature activists in really remarkable person who was difficult than thrilling at the same time and I like to play in exchange. This is from. The ninety s when Tony Larry, we're on a television talk show together. We're not gonNA, get the answer tomorrow and the kinds of inroads than a made as small as they are science works in small building blocks of knowledge and Tony Stop It yes the answer could come tomorrow. Why do you automatically take such a negative attitude? You're GONNA get it. Let me finish. It happens and big building blocks as well as little building us if all of this rhetoric of yours than everybody else in the bureaucracy. I want to say something about about Tony Fauci because I think the world must think I hate him or something the way of going on tonight I love Tony. I think I probably have a more complicated relationship with Tony than anybody in my entire life he is a man, an ordinary man who is being asked to play God and he is being punished because he cannot be God and that is a terrible situation to be in to be the lightning rod for all of us. True Debt sex and money is the podcast from. 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What The Tech Ep. 418 - The New 2018 MacBook Air

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What The Tech Ep. 418 - The New 2018 MacBook Air

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I still sound this to you or it'll mean emotionally distant I mean. Well, he don't like sometimes it sounds like you're in the wrong microphone kind of sounds like that. I mean, I don't think you are. I think it's the whole the whole sound level. I don't know if everyone else does not notice it that we don't have to worry about it. I think it'll be fine for everybody else. But I can have sunk Catholic into this wall. We're doing this because he's always listened. He's always watching. It's actually starting to sound a little better. Okay. What for everybody? This is what the tech I'm interested, Aaron I'm joined by my favorite person is I told you Paul the rot. Boy. I have a lot of stuff to talk about today because I got a lot of goodies this week. I'm almost done with my review for the glass thermostat that right? Ever told you this? I also got one of those. Oh nice. Did you hook it up? I have still not installed it. Okay. Well, mine's been installed, and I've been using it in re- like it's my real thermostat now. So I've done it hasn't been you know, like if you saw. Test heat a room to see if it works. No. I thought it was really interesting because like the nest right? That's the one that everybody talks about or now this right? This is absolutely a beautiful device. It's something out of minority report. You know, where I it just glass displaying is projected on the glass, and it has Cortana support. It has all this stuff. It's actually awesome. It also has a lot of issues, but I've been using it for the last two months. I just can't do a review because the room that it's in is in shambles because of all the construction so today, they're painting the wall that it's on. So I'm almost done with I review, I have to tell you. This is the beginning of something really cool. How these smart thermostats are probably going to end up being the central hub. We're go. I think we may be looking at this wrong way with you. We have the Alexa boxes we have the echo. We have the Google home stuff means book is now in the game. Everybody's involved in this. I think maybe incorporating a lot of those features into thermostat and lay having that as your smart display could be where we're headed with this. Because if you think about it, there's no reason why Google the new Google displayed. They released can't incorporate Ness support in it somehow if you already have a nest, right? There's a lot that you can do with this. I do want to talk about that. But I also got the HP specter x x three sixty thirteen inch. And I I've been using that for since sat since Friday, so not a lot of long term stuff. But I do want to do compares compared to this one that I have here. And this is the this is not the the previous one. Yeah. It is a previous shin. This is the elitebook though, not not the not the this elitebook line up with the seven gen processor. But it's very very similar to this. But I do want to do a comparison because this is a pretty oh that's weird. When I touched it something happened. Magnets, connectors. I think something happened here. I do want to do a comparison of these two because this is a very close in form factor and functionality the vice, but there's show many improvements over the John versus a seven, John chips and listening. So I do want to talk about that. And a very interesting article that Paul wrote about what was it a couple of days ago how the macbook air. The new macbook airs the best thing that could have possibly happened to surface laptop. Obviously a lot to talk about today and a whole lot more. Whatever Paul wants to talk about whatever you wanna talk about whatever that other Russia. Mobile four. We continue. I want to thank our great sponsor, and that's a way travel. This is my suitcase for life. 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We both praised it in a lot of ways, we criticize it in a long ways. I think I think more praise than negatively with this device goal. Andrew let me let me should talk about. What's happened since? Then let's go tell me because I have one now. Okay. Really nice, which gen Intel is it. Can you remember? Well, eighth the macbook air. Yeah. It's intel. But it's why series. Why series? Yes. But she's another. But but it's seven watts five watts like most wives why series parts, so there's actually a single fan. It never comes on normal use. But if you do something intensive encoded a big video it was crank and the whole time. So performance wise. I don't have the numbers right in front of me. But obviously, it's not it's not as it doesn't do as well. Especially multi core. Sure. As an eighth gen quad core processor, right? But it's probably at about two thirds of that somewhere and that ranch it's not bad at all. Interesting. What don't you like about it? I mean, honestly. By the way. I'm like what? Honestly, there's not a lot. I don't like excuse me. For my cat. She's not welcome. I'm nervous about the keyboard. Right. And by nervous. I mean, the reliability of the keyboard because there have been issues with these butterfly keyboards. And I know this is the third gen, but I also know that some people have had problem with jed butterfly keywords. So there is that scary possibility I would be out in the world with this device in one of the keys will stop working, or in some extreme cases. Keyboard itself might stop working. So I've not experienced this. But it's a it's a worry. And I think it's a normal worry that anyone should have for these keyboards. But you know, the display is beautiful. I actually okay, but the keyboard as far as the typing experience, it's a very short throw. But as we've moved to the shorter throw keyboards, I kind of prefer them and some classic keyboards that I once considered to be excellent like the keyboards you see on modern thing pads. I actually think there a little too. Loose like, they're they're the long throws. You know, you can kind of equate it to if you've ever driven a stick shift like a sporty car. Good sporty car will a very short throws on the stickshift. Yes. And. I know these aren't completely analogous, but it's a little bit like that. I've come to appreciate shorter throw keys. So I'm okay with that track. Pat is fantastic. I think the expansion stuff is fine. I wish one of the ports was on the other side of the machine, and it would support a little more versatile usage there. You know? But they do have two USB ports both which thunder poll three enabled. It's fantastic. I really liked the touch ID. I prefer fingerprint readers to facial recognition. They brought it to this machine. It's great. Yeah. The reader is actually functions. One of the best that I've seen on on a on a on a laptop. I have it on my macbook pro. And it's it's really good testing. Yeah. It works. Great. So actually, I should answer your I can't answer your original question because there is one thing I really don't like. And it's the price, you know. And there's always been sort of an apple tax on these products. I get that. It's not new, but they literally kinda jacked the price two hundred bucks on this particular machine. They basically gone up in price about twenty percent on everything they've released this year. So when you compare the new version of a of a product, whatever it might be the MAC book air, the ipad pro the iphone whatever twenty percent up. It's a tough pill swallow, I think that this machine at nine ninety nine would have made it a no brainer. And we'd be having a completely different conversation at twelve or eleven ninety nine twelve hundred bucks. And of course, the one I bought was almost seventeen hundred bucks after taxes and everything I graded the ram to sixteen gig upgraded. The storage to fifty six and I did that for a variety of reasons. But whatever. That's that's that's super premium PC. Price range. You know, that's a pretty high end surface. It's a pretty high end excellent carbon. It's a really high end h have we have we seen? Obviously twenty percent is is a significant bump. Or year over year for for pricing for the new product. But have we seen a change as far as the overall market has gone? Have we seen a price increase amongst competitive OEM's? No, yeah. No. In fact, if anything, you know with the recent generation of surface devices, actually. The prices are going down really and more to the point. Even when you kind of when you hold the price on something, you know, one of the expectations. You can have is that the capabilities is gonna get better, you know, one of the really neat things about what happened last year when Intel went to the eighth generation ships is that the use series chips, which are the ones that are all laptops, basically, unless it's a super high in machine or a super low end machine. Went from two to four cores in day to day use using word or browsing the web or sending emails or whatever you're not really going to see a big difference. But for those times when you doing something like Photoshop or excel with a big spreadsheet or even playing a game, or whatever, it might be video editing. Whatever that stuff is going to make a big difference. And it comes at no cost literal costs as far as the price of the processor. There's no cost of battery life, and I think at future proofs the machine in a really nice way. Because a quad core processor is going to be a viable thing for years and years to come. Yeah. The long you're the device seeds. What you normally used by the way, we'll talk about this a few but part of your upgrade. Yep. This is here we go. This here. I believe I suspect it out at twelve hundred dollars right, actually. So very quick. Let's let's I when apple announced the back book air, I use that as an example because that computers two point seven five pounds the same weight as the MAC book air, it's a lot more versatile. The screens swings around you can use it like a tablet, you can put it in tent mode supports a smart pen and multi touch. It is way more ports you could kinda rattle rattled off. If you want to look at it. But in way, more expansion, it has a good mix of modern and legacy ports. Screen is great typing experiences. Great the track pad is great. I believe it has a fingerprint reader if I remember correctly. So it kind of lines up there. But also, it's windows glow. With the camera. Yep. No, this is not a fingerprint reader. Are you? Sure. I don't see it. Where would it be? It would it would be it would. Well, the elitebook has the fingerprint reader, what are you looking at now, I was that's a specter. So the elitebook by the way here has oh, I'm sorry. I thought I I'm referring to the elitebook. So you know, I I just. But you know, what everything we just described? This is like the types of specs and benchmark type comparisons that people make in our world, right? The truth. Is somebody's going to walk into an apple store? They've had a MAC book air for some years is probably covered with stickers or something. And they want a new one and they're going to look at this new MAC book air, and they're going to say my God. This thing is like smaller. It's lighter. It's it's it looks like a MAC book air, it has a beautiful screen that thing I've been waiting for, you know, small battles, and yeah, it's expensive. But you know, again, I don't this is not of rationalize it. Well, it is a rationalization. It's not a justification. But you can kind of make the excuse yourself going to hold onto this thing for some number of years. I I think in that world, it doesn't matter and. Apple plays in the premium part of the PC market. This is the only part of the PC market that makes any money, and when you can charge extra for something like this and keep making money, you know, that's a viable business. So yeah, anyone could compare this to anything? I compared it today to the surface book. We can talk about that later too from a pure specs perspective the surface book, I would say alternately comes out on top and because of that process of the series processor. It's in some ways is probably more future proof. If that means if that means anything, but. I don't think a lot of people looking at macbook airs looking at service, laptops, to be honest. So that's the truth. So okay. Let's let's check in into your your throat dot com premium article guys, if you have not signed up for premium I highly highly recommend you do I've been I think I'm number twenty three the rot member. Good number. Michael Jordan's basketball jersey. So you wrote an article and it's the macbook pros. The best thing to ever happen to surface laptop, tell me why. Because this is very interesting, by the way, then new surface laptop, again, beautiful device. Great device. So when when surface laptop I launched a year to half ago it came into market at a time when apple had been ignoring the MAC book pro sorry, the MAC book air by that point for years, some several years, whatever was everyone for years now, the topic has been here's what apple needs to upgrade this, computer. It's obvious. They can do it right now. Why aren't they doing it time has gone by? And so there's. There's a there was a good argument to be made at the time in this still is that. Laptops, kind of a me too product. Right. I'm sure I joked at the time, it's like, Microsoft, just invented the laptop. It's like twenty five years after the first laptop or whatever the time frame is Microsoft, finally conflict the last PC maker on earth ship, a laptop like what is this thing? And the other thing that's notable about the surface laptop. And this is really important is that it's the only surface device, so far, although I guess you could throw surface go into this category little bit. But that isn't trying to invent a new market, right? It's not the tablet that can become your laptop. It's not the laptop of the tangible screen. It's not the all in one computer where it comes down, and you can draw on it. You know, it's a laptop right? And the only thing differentiating it from other, laptops, is that it has this al-qatar covering which a lot of people don't like, frankly. So there's something to be said for that. But the thing that's really interesting to me about surface laptop. And this is true. The first version as well. As a second version is just it has that kind of special. Something it is the closest we've ever gotten on the window side of the fence to the macbook air. It's this perfect combination of size, and shape and portability and power in typing quality and great track. Padded gorgeous screen like it's it kind of built on what apple did with the macro care, and then left hanging there and improved in on it in every way. And I think for a little while their role for the past year. I think there were people out there who are like like, I don't want to buy a MAC pro the the little MAC looks too small actually service, laptops. Right there. You know, it's perfect pipe. The price is great. You know? Obviously, some people prefer the MAC, but apple eventually, of course, does release a MAC book air, right? And I argued I I will argue that I think it's a great. Upgrade for MAC book, air users and pretty much. That's it. Right. I mean, the thing that's interesting about it is they didn't make it a no brainer. Right. The new MAC book air is not this amazing world changing thing. Like, it wasn't twenty ten when this many of them. On the formula. Yeah. So they delivered something competent. It's in style with the types of things they put out today, it has curious processor choice, which you know. I think real world is probably not gonna be a problem for most people by macbook airs. But what they didn't do is blow surface laptop out of the water. Right. And they priced at two hundred dollars more expensive inexplicably. Right. As if to sort of prove to themselves into the world that they are above the normal market forces that shape, the strategies of every other company that competes in this market. And so that's what I mean. Like in other words, what apple did was they released the right upgrade for its existing users who was held on and are waiting. And that's going to serve that audience. Well, but with the haven't done is what the previous MAC book air did which was opened up the MAC to all new users like the Switzers to people were like, holy crap. Look at this thing, it's so much better than anything. We have on the PC side. I'm willing to take the risk and the time and the effort and the expense to switch platforms because that thing is so good, and Microsoft, you know, when they released surface laptop to a month or so ago. I think it's fair to say there was some disappointment. Because it's the same exact body. It just says a quad core processor in it and one new color, which you have to spend extra for you can't get into the low end version of the product. So. If you haven't bought a surface laptop to yet. It's it's nice. It's still nice. It's always been nice. But has a legacy port legacy expansion. You know when you was a port. One mini display. Mini display port on a laptop. These days is like having a serial port. It's kind of a weird old fashioned thing to have they didn't even put a USB port on there. It's crazy. And so at the time, it looked kind of stilted, and you know. Problematic. But then you see what apple did with the MAC book air and you like, oh, it's fine. Because there's nothing there to take. If you're thinking about a surface laptop. And then the macbook air comes you like, I don't even think about that. You know, it's too expensive. It's you know, it's a pitch. I mean, you know, this is the. It's an interesting discussion to have about this. Because when the MAC book air came out in two thousand ten yeah. Forget about the first one, but the second gen one that was the one in that really. That was a that was a game changer for for a lot of reasons. Right. Statically stunning performance was up the par with actually there was nobody else in the class because the PC market in two thousand and ten two thousand eleven we're very different. It was it was ugly. You know, these these, laptops or simply reasons why that computer was so impressive. But you have to kind of compare it to the first one, right? The second one is a little lighter. But let's say they're about the same weight. And yet it has a much better processor, more ram all SSD storage. The other one actually had a hard drive in it. Yeah. Yeah. The other one had one USB port that was under a little door. Click open to get to it and kinda hung out there. This one is to the the twenty ten version two USB ports. A full-size Esotique slot. Retain the magazine which was like the one big thing from the first one market was still going nuts over net books at that point. Right. Yeah. I mean you want to. You want was impressive. The second one. So yeah, it's a different market today. And I guess we could still kind of question with Microsoft come into market with a laptop whatever. Okay. So if Microsoft came to market when the air was coming to market if that was the direction, obviously, this was not the concept of this company. Right. They weren't thinking in this capacity. There were never going to put this product out. You got to sit like this was never going to happen. Listen, this is the only product we show on TV shows with the Microsoft laptop ten years later was it was something they rejected because it was just a laptop right internally. And it sat in the back burner for many years. Microsoft surface might never have taken off the first generation was a disaster. The second generation didn't really go anywhere. RT was a nightmare. Yeah. The third one where they did surface pro three they finally hit on a formula that had to do with foreign factor and display and the keyboard got was vastly improved. And they came up with this notion of this is the tablet that can replace your laptop. And. Of people it could and does still it's still the most popular surface form factor by far. It's not even close. They've had a lot less success in subsequent years trying to push these other form factors, and they will have no success next year when they released a stupid little mobile thing that everyone's so excited about for some reason, but. Because of a variety of factors. Some Intel processor delays reliability problems. They have with a certain generation of surface PC's, which we shall never speak of again, they had kind of a hole in their product schedule. And they were like we gotta get something out. What do we have, you know, it's like well this designed Becker from eight years ago, but a laptop when we do that. And I think the Elkin Tara thing was just an attempt to like, look, okay, we're going to do this. But we have to we have to differentiate it somehow, by the way, I was just reminded in the chat room that the specter specter extra sixty thirteen does have a fingerprint reader, it's on the savage on the side. Yeah. That's what it is. Totally forgot about that. I actually I thought you gotta hold. Yeah. I kind of like that. So is the thing, you know, we we are now in a very competitive market when you're aesthetics. Everybody has a beautiful product on the market right now. Microsoft is producing a great laptop HP's doing the same Lenovo still. I mean amazing products out there. Everybody's very competitive. What is but for the MAC side. Listen that twenty percent booth. They know that a ten-year fifteen year MAC user is not going to say, you know, what I'm just going to go buy a surface laptop to I don't even think they're aware because at the bubble that therein, listen me, I've been using a MAC for the longest time. If I'm using an I use it because it's convenient for me at this point not because it's the best product on the market. These HP Specter's are great the surface laptop to phenomenal. Which I absolutely love the surface lineup is great. I use it. Because this is what I know. And I feel the most comfortable with this. And I kind of don't want to relearn anything. And I'm thinking as a consumer right now, not as someone that's involved in technology. Right. That that's my thought process. Apple not you're not going to care. You're replacing a twenty thirteen MAC book air like you said you've been using it for five years. Six years you go into apple store because you know, you drop date or you spilled water on it. And now you have to buy one you're not even thinking, it's one dollars more. You know? That's actually, it's interesting. That's the other big thing that changed between gen one and gen to the macbook air the first MAC book air costs seventeen hundred ninety nine dollars. So there was a real premium to get this thing that was really constrained. It's a little bit. Like the little MAC book. They have same thing that I think that when has always started at twelve ninety nine but for that kind of machine it's like what is this? Like, it's kind of a weird thing. The second gen MAC book if I'm not mistaken started at twelve ninety nine when it first came out, and then it got quickly down to nine ninety nine for a bass version, and it's been there ever since. And so I think part of the strangest of this new version is they've kind of gone back up and price. Of course, apple is apple, and I mean, you justified in this way, right? And somebody wrote this while the the previous one that was on the market was three and a half years old. So now, you're up to date, and you paying more you weren't getting a bargain before you were getting an outdated piece of hardware that they were price pointing under a thousand dollars. Right, right. It's interesting. I do want to ask you another thing the keyboard like, you said have you because I've been using the new style MAC keyboards for while on the fifteen I feel like I actually I don't know if there's any difference, and I should find this out if there's any difference in the row or anything or the spacing compatible with thirteen inch because I have of miserable time typing on a thirteen inch MAC book pro with that new keyboard, like, my wife's end, the keys are all screwed up the shift. He no longer works. The return key no longer works. The lead tell the Kochta I use on the fifteen inch. However, I've had no keyboard problems whatsoever. Okay. I don't know that. I don't know. I. You know, it's not a newsflash that. These keyboards are kinda loud, really cliquey sound hind kind. Yeah. It's not as bad as it was. Right. You know, the new version has this kind of they have these little. I don't know what they a little plastic pillows or whatever they go into the key. So I think that has improved the sound a little bit. It obviously helps with the dirt getting not getting their Paul my culture and the other day she was into kitchen. She had a laptop out, right? I walked into the kitchen. I thought she had she was playing van Halen teacher. Yeah. And I'm like what I'm like got you hooked up. The you hooked up the Google the Google home. Trying to measure this. I'd like to add like to sound like a decibel rating. I have really big hands. I'm a heavy typist. I, you know, people have commented on this. It'll be an oppress room, and I'm like going to town. Hey, you wanna laptop? I have let's see let's picked up. I'm gonna turn all my processing off on my audio. Uh-huh. So processing is all off. Had. That's barely. Okay. Let me let me see if I could pot this up, and I'm going to do a comparison with this HP and this one let's see. Well, I mean, there's not going to be a comparison. The the other the other. You can't really hear it. You can't I think on the recording. You could definitely hear it. But it is. There's no audio when you I gotta lower this. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. There's absolutely. There's absolutely no sound when you typing on any other keyboard when you're typing on this. I mean, it's so obscenely loud. I I. When I got it the dumbest thing, I thought was oh, it has to be some sort of software feature where I could actually dampen the sound like actually no wonder, I wonder if the new version. If it's not some software element to what they're doing. Because I I I don't find this to be objectionable. On this machine. And I you know, I had a fifteen inch briefly. I had know the first one one of the ones you got. I used it redolent. I'm that time. And it was like you said, it's like a machine gun. It's like, you know, it's crazy. But I'm this is fine. Like, I don't think. This is this is a total anecdotal nonsense test. But I mean. It is absolutely louder than the surface slapped up to in this case, very very absolutely low. But it's not. It's almost not much your loudness is the right turn. It's almost like a timber or Raton to the sound. It has a sharp people. I don't know. Somebody message me once that we were talking about this. And they said, well how how why does it? It's like she goes. I don't see a problem with some you know, what the problem, I'm like if I'm sleeping my wife is doing some work on her laptop. And that's all I hear. It's so loud where I have my twenty fifteen macbook macbook pro that I have in my bedroom because this is so disruptive. Keyboard. And by the way, this is actual bedroom. Mac, I do have a bedroom. Mac I have a bedroom moments. If those quiet moments he's at twenty fifteen for those loud and aggressive moments, the twenty seventeen will do I I don't listen, it's a very nitpicky complaint at the end of the day. But I am primarily in the MAC ecosystem because of the keyboard a plays tremendous part for me because I type so much. I which by the way that is a knock at the specter. I have to talk about that. I'm not adapting to this keyboard as well as I did to the elitebook, which the friend a friend over at HP, you'll find that interesting because they pride themselves. I don't know. You know, he I hadn't heard him talk about this for the new generation. But when the previous versions he was saying that. He felt like the elitebook. I don't know if this is the ten thirty or ten forty whichever one it was at the time the previous Jen was like the very best typing experience he had ever had. And I gotta say there is something about the elite books. I don't know if it's the materials there are if you compare the keyboards they are different right? The elite books have kind of like a black island style key sitting inside of the aluminum body and on the specter. I believe it's I don't think he's are actually they're probably plastic to but their silver, and the, you know, the kind of match the color of the device, I I do want to do a click Beatty YouTube video where I look at the camera with my hat backwards. And I'm like, hey, guys, you know, the top three keyboards of all time number one. Now, it's like, let's should never buy this laptop. Yeah. Number one, the old school thing pads had the best old best keyboard that I had used at the time the MAC books for a very long time where the best keyboard? This elitebook comes in very close to. A two thousand fifteen macbook pro it's it's right there. I think if I spent a week more with this thing that I did when I first got it. I would have adjusted very easily. I am having a difficult time adjusting adjusting to the specter. But that's I wonder if that's because so used to the new MAC book style for the keyboard, the specter sixty for a couple of jen's air at least was in the top one or three of all the keyboards for sure. And there are there are a lot of machines that are kind of right there the Aleve books are in there. The. Surface laptop surface book or absolutely in there. But, but I think are, you know, the typing experience has evolved over time. And so that kind of vaunted ThinkPad keyboard with the full keys and all that. I mean, these days, I don't know. I think there are a lot of people who. You may not even like that kind of thing anymore. And when the apple started coming up with these apple these islands, Sal keyboards, not that they originated it. I know they weren't the first, but they sort of popularized this design. I mean, the whole market rotates around everything apple does is copy everything apple does. So I wasn't that impressed with it at first over time. I've come to really appreciate it. I I liked that style of keyboard? And then if you kind of accepted, this MAC book slash MAC, book, air, whatever it is. Butterfly. Keyboard is the next. Progression. I don't know. I mean, this might be one. Too far for some. But I like I said like the one that's in this MAC book air. I could like use us. I wrote I wrote a two thousand word article with it with no. Sense of additional errors or whatever. That's an also majority of majority for typing is coming on on a glass screen, you know, five and a half inch six inch glass screen now. So anything is an improvement. Okay. The low for your typing experience most this is what you're doing. Now. This is that most people are typing. So when you go to a laptop I when I get those emails saying, I don't understand a big deal about keyboards keyboards a keyboard? Now, it's not no it's not remember when the surface, I came out one of the things Microsoft, tried something called a touch cover and a touch cover was a protective cover you put over your surface when he opened it up had kind of a keyboard drawn on it. But it wasn't the weren't any moving parts. It was just using haptic feedback or something whatever was to, you know, sense the typing and the idea there was this thing this is genius idea as to. Primary uses eight covers the screen. So you've got that protection you carrying it around. But it's it's better than writing on the screen like with typing on the screen, and the reason it's better is because you're covering anything up on the screen. Right. Kind of like, oh that makes sense. But the truth is it was terrible. And but it had a little bit of a throw, right? No. There was no throat on his all imagined. It was just like typing on glass. Well, it was typing on fabric or whatever that material was. But. Yeah. I mean, it only lasted I think they did it for the two generations, and they got rid of it and the type covers have evolved into wonderful typing experiences. I mean, you're always going to get a little bit of flex because of the things kind of you know. Not flat on the surface. You know, there's going to be a little you can push it a little more easily because it's a cover, but honestly, the typing experience on a surface. Pro I would say dating back to surface. Pro three is an excellent much better. It's improved. Honestly. Paul. I want to remind everybody if you enjoy the show. I don't know if you guys are aware, but I recently quit my job. And I'm back at this full-time Andrews back baby. No, I left my job. And I will be we're going to be again. We're back on Tuesdays. Long more consistent schedule. We're doing a lot more stuff. More stuff on patriot. Obviously all the extra stuff. And if you want to help us, you want to help this show from continuing you want to you wanna you wanna help me continue on as podcasting fulltime like I did for many years. And then I went and took a job for about twenty something months. I was I was very disconnected from this podcasting world. But I now I'm totally back. And it's actually it's it's liberating Paul Paul would see me regularly literally every time he would come to New York him and Mary Jo was sit down and at one point of the night. It would be an intervention, and it would say angel. What are you doing to yourself? You're killing yourself and Mary. Joe we went I was at right on by the way right on Homer's shutting down. I don't know if you know this. No this. You did not or you did. I do. I'm trying to avoid the reality of it. Yeah. 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That's the reality of this Paul, and I need a new bar when he's in New York. But you know, if you want if you enjoy the show, and you want us to continue doing this. I'm going at at one hundred and fifty percent, and I have a lot of cool stuff in two thousand nineteen coming up. You could fund us by going patriot dot com slash what the techique Fundus as little as one dollar fund us as much as whatever you wanna fund us. And it it keeps the bills getting paid here. Because son cast is on he's going on strike soon. And he's demanding a new contract. I got the union representatives the Goshi aiding with it's it's bad. You know, he he claims that he does everything here. Paul. Can you believe that? Can you believe that he's he said that e key edits everything? And he does actually that a lot of that goes. Well, I can't believe that. Yeah. He he really is the backbone here. And he's one of the most loyal people I've ever met in my life. So also, if you wanna hire him to edit something for you, you could you could hire him because he's phenomenal. Go to patriot patriotic com slice what the techique Fundus there. So Paul let's talk about this spectre for a little bit. Okay. I got it. So I'm the comparison I'm doing with this is the elitebook that I had from year and a half ago. I'd like the leap book keyboard way, better. But man, this is come a long way from that generation specter, the keyboard and another that thing. Yeah. I wish God I'd always wished that. They this is the new spectra actually sixty. Yeah. Because it's funny that looks like an elite book, it does it looks Jessica book, they should do the black key thing. I think that's a nice contrast. So this is a first of all it superlight, super durable. I'm looking at this. So I think it's a two through twenty six are drive. I don't know. But the processor on this. What do they do it messes up? I headed open the whole time about where's about this, west, build info. Here we go. So this is a quad core. I seven in this thing, it's an eight fifty five years. So it's a it's a one point eight gigahertz processor. I think it peaks at whatever like what is it four? Turbo boost whatever, but it's a true quad core. And I was doing some video stuff on here. I hooked up one of my cameras with the capture card to this thing. And the CPU was not budging. I was very impressed. By the fact, that it wasn't budging considering the fact that on my MAC, and a lot of this could be could do with driver support and things like that. But you know, my twenty seventeen macbook pro that's a two point eight gigahertz Intel, I seven I don't know what John is it seven Chen. Maybe this one seven, Jen. I don't know what gender put in this thing. But this thing at times a hiccup. So if you I'm going to be doing more live stuff on the go, and I kind of want to see how this does it hasn't. Thunderbolt ports on this side and one USB port on this side headphone, Jack. Fingerprint sensor volume toggle here, which I don't know. It's. Well, you know, they do that. Because it's a can be a Talbot could be a tablet. So right. So the idea is you don't necessarily. It's just an easier to the track. Pat is really good. Here's my gripe though. Okay. Coming from the from the MAC side things are a little bit more uniformed on the MAC side. Right. And here's a question for you in chrome. You're are you on a laptop right now? Paul. No. But I could I can up. Okay. If you open up chrome and he do pensions zoom. It's like that. Cock the weird like it zooms in. But it's not fluid, right? Like, it would be on an interim trying to some MAC book air, and it's not working. What am I doing wrong? Not on the MAC, you're not enough love. That's that's what you you got to caress it. You gotta talk to it. You got to you got to love it. I don't understand why chrome on the PC. He doesn't do pinch and zoom properly. So I mean, I would never touch my screen of pensions. No, no, no. I'm saying on the track pad. Oh, right. Like, I got very use to on the MAC to do that. Where if I need to see something a little bit. I I'll zoom in good actually pinch to zoom in on the track ped-. Yeah. On the track. Pat, I'm talking about not on the screen. I would just you know, control plus control plus yet. So you don't have to do that. PC using a PC but on do that right on edge? It actually does pinch zoom very nicely on the track pet, but I'm a normal person. I don't use it people. Don't well. I don't understand why it has not been incorporated in chrome for this. Czar? I think that's a very bizarre thing for them to do. And I'm curious if this is some sort of like f you to Microsoft on the on the on the chrome side? You don't think? So this is some sort of great doubt. I don't know. I don't think that. It could very well. Be that the because of the way the MAC is they have this. You know this system available to developers where they can do custom. Gestures. Whatever I don't know. Let's see let me download fire FOX on this thing. I just never I just don't personally ever pensions them. I think this is not as on the nag. They've kind of trained you to pensions zoom everything because it was a big thing this ten access pedals. They know touch windows ten is great multi touch gestures on the track bed. Like, you know, you can do three fingers down to minimize everything. Three fingers up to you know, to bring it back three fingers up again to go to task few like, there are those things exist. I just don't it would never occur to me an app to. To pensions because I'm curious about it. But I never I would never know. It doesn't it's terrible. Give it a terrible. It's not it's not fluid on. Sure. Okay. It works it works. But it it's a little it's a little off. I mean that was that was like a little bit of adjustment. Oh, that's weird. I'm surprised. They don't do that. But everything I mean, essentially, it's the same thing. It's the same exact thing. This is a beautiful device. If you're in the PC market, I highly suggest checking these out if you are a MAC user, you're never going to be happy going to a PC. Reality of it. You know, it's going to be that. None of no just in general. They're not. I don't believe that that transition is happening. People are abandoning their MAC books because it's twenty percent. More to go. Get a PC. I finding a lower. And I I think Microsoft had a little window in the sun. You know, where that kind of stuff was happening. I think since then we've seen I think about it. What have you seen over the past year? Major macbook pro upgrade twice right? Twenty seventeen in two thousand eighteen which is unprecedented, by the way, and then mount care which merely updated, right? I mean, this is going to stop the the flow of people from the MAC, I think they've done what they had to do to keep people there. There's some stuff that doesn't make sense like the low and MAC book doesn't make a lot of sense right now. But I think they've done what they need to do. Let's see those pensions and work. And no it's crappy on fire. Fox also, this is my new this is my new vessel. But why pensions zoom? That's the world is finally going to small vessels you found. I found housing, by the way, the Bethel's not that small on this laptop the top and bottom does oil. Yeah. Well, right HP insists on these sixteen by nine displays or whatever. They are. Yeah. So that I mean that that's that's okay. But the displays beautiful it's a great device. I do need more time with it though. I can't I can't make a determination how how much I like this thing. You know in three days, I would say at this point. I would choose the leap book over a spec. Book extra sixty over a spectrum three sixty. But the only concern I would have as an individual is that HP puts a lot of corporate software on there. So there's a lot of additional security stuff, which you know, on one level, you could kind of say, well, why would I complain about that? But there's a bunch of additional utilities that are kind of baggage with those machines. So I think a lot of if you're going to buy that as an individual. I bet a lot of people would want to. Let me see disabled some of that stuff. I'll tell you what HP does really well compared to some other OEM's, they so they're HP support assistant that software that they give you where it tells you, you know, your your warranty and messages from HP, it is is is nonsense. But they have you download updates for drivers through there. And it's actually supported like it's not forgotten about and the elitebook that I have here. It's two years old. But this thing is still I mean, there's this driver updates constantly it compared to how would used to be or for some other. Oh, EM's out there. Like, I'm just I'm gonna name like Dell Lenovo where they won't support it. This this often with updates. We live of has a similar utility. We've done, and it's it's kind of it's kind of wonky. I actually like the HP one better. But that that's that's I think the HP one is kind of weird. It's kind of an anachronistic old fashioned kind of thing. But. But yeah. But whatever having that thing on the PC is huge Fisher to there's no updates on this. I wonder why I wonder if they did everything beforehand. Interesting. You want to do to prefer performance tuneup. Check. I find those really weird those tune-ups. What is it gonna tell me it only registry? Yeah. It does. It does a system file check it deletes temporary files. And that's about it includes the cookies don't clean my man. Don't clear my cookies. Clean. My don't you dare. No. I think is cooking for me. Yeah. So there was another story. Here you ran and I'm curious about this. So we haven't spoken about by the way. Have you noticed something? No beep today. Right. What happened gone? It's gone. I killed it. What was it? It was the Phya. So when teeth fell into the wall it fell into the wall. So I- retrieved it, and I there's been no beep. Yeah. I kind of miss it. I kind of miss it. While you probably still have the echo beep in your head. Oh, it's been hoping every twenty minutes in my head. That's been something that's been going on. You. There was an article on dot com. I don't think he wrote this one, but they were talking about a lower tier net flicks plan and was recently on court killers last week. And we were, you know, obviously, always it's a nice reminder to me on how much I'm I'm spending now on streaming services now that I've cut cable, so it's actually becoming so inflated for so many people where it's not eight I don't know how much cheaper this is for me at this point that I cut cable, right because we all have Netflix. I have Hulu I have. I don't think that's the point. Right. The problem with cable is that the price escalates over time. But you're also kind of locked into this thing. And once you go to services, even if it's identical cost-wise you can turn off a service at anytime and switch to something new electronically like at any time. And to me that freedom is is the real point of it. You know, I'll tell you what I mean, I I went to a friend's house couple of weeks ago, and we were watching football game on Sunday. And he has his beautiful new TV and he had cable, and I go. Oh my God. I forgot what it's like watching sports on real TV. It's so much better. It looks way better. You don't you? Don't have this weird jittery nece like you do on the internet. And some people are gonna argue with me, tell me it's great on their service, whatever they watch on the internet YouTube TV's, the only thing that you could tolerate sports because it actually does sixty frames per second. So where watching sports in thirty frames per second is miserable. I mean, you could obviously see the difference. And I totally forgot how how good it looks on network TV. And I'm and I'm thinking, you know, what? Listen, I notice these things, but do anybody else can is anybody else can notice this that there's a it's weird looking. I mean, maybe that's what that's why people are still hanging onto their cable subscriptions because it just works. Yeah. That's definitely part of it. I thought it was interesting. But you know, we're getting so inflated like what? Subscriptions do you have right now. Obviously, which we never watch. There. It's a waste of forty bucks on. Netflix is the one we use primarily we just watch. We started watching a series last night on Amazon prime, but honestly, we very rarely use it, and then we had been watching. The Handmaid's tale on Hulu, and I don't think I've turned hula one since then, but I pay for that every month to like a dope, you know. I have. No, you sign up for all this stuff. And you just keep paying for it. You know stupid because you know, what it is. It's ten dollars here. Ten dollars there. It's not coming. Yeah. So actually YouTube TV. We watch we watch the playoffs the World Series. Yeah. And I haven't done this. He too much yet. But we, you know, the football will go on, you know, on Sundays, whatever. So there is that I guess, but as far as like shows go, you know, the one big change. That's happened. Peschiera guess is that we don't like shows have come back, and we just don't watch them. Now like like the Walking Dead came back. I was like like, I don't even care anymore. I I don't know. I think it's getting someone floated I gotta cut something. I have nothing. I have who have YouTube TV I have. You know, I I had the right TV. Now what I cancelled it. But I I should check my credit card sif. I'm still getting Bill for this stuff w w w network. I have the MLB network. It's it's so much at this point does so much the pick. Yeah. It's how much TV and my watching. I watched the news in the morning, and that's about it. We watched a couple of hours each night. We watched we watched thirty minutes at lunch every day. You know, we watched episodes whatever that show was last night. Which is like thirty minutes long, actually. But I don't know. I've watched a lot I watch more YouTube like real YouTube yet my wife. I wanted to just tell you just that makes her lose her mind. The fact that that's all I watch is YouTube videos on on the TV every night. That's literally I got my glass of wine, and that's all I do know a lot of this stuff is shorter. But like last night, for example, my wife was on. I watched an entire Queen concert from two from nine hundred six rather. Was probably two hours long. You know, like, I just left it on, and I was kind of tooling around with their laptops and doing stuff, but. It was excellent. I mean, I watch a lot of that stuff. I watch a lot of the little device type reviews. And I have my own stupid stuff that I like the nobody cares about like conspiracy theories. Like, me know, you end up down the on Inaki rabbit hole where the, you know, no planet line and planet acts. No it. Nope. No. I have the stupid like, so I'm just going to just turn I brought up YouTube. So you can kind of see the types of stuff that here. Like, I go down these things where I've watched like like video after video of like normal. Donald Rodney Dangerfield or. Client, kind of classic comedians. Like that like, I will I will lose days to that. So I have a lot of those things coming up. I watched Queen last night. So there's a Queen Live Aid thing recommending today, I watched car reviews, but the guy these to do the New York Times car reviews. Tom volka is great driven. I strongly recommended it. Lots of apple stuff. Lots of Star Wars stuff. You know, tech stuff in general some music stuff. And there, you know, you know, just because you know, the problem is like when you watch you have to do something like so you click on something by mistake. And now you screwed. Now, they think you air about this stuff. Yeah. Well, that's I bring that up all the time. My YouTube recommended list is all you a way to be like, no, don't don't, you know, maybe we could talk about the show because we're running out of time here. But I do want to give a little thing something I stumbled upon was alternate the alternative history hub on YouTube. And it's a great job. And I, you know, Paul you might actually enjoy this. And he does a great job at doing. What if history like one of it is what if operation on thinkable happened, right? Yeah. That's done. No. That's it's the British and the Americans going to war with the Soviets. So this is something Winston Churchill at the end of World War Two World War Two Germany now we're gonna move over and start to fight communism. So some of it is like what if the Roman empire never existed? It's a lot of cool stuff. You can look him up alternative history. How they do. I mean, they have millions of us on some of these videos. Cool. We'll talk about that on the Poche. Oh, guys. If you're watching live, stay tuned. We're going to do what the talk coming right up. If you're listened to the podcast, go fund us and get access to these shows. It patriots com slash what. The tech you go there. I don't know why I'm not able to switch the cameras today. 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From Fear to Cheer - How to Turn Your Nightmares into Sweet Dreams

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From Fear to Cheer - How to Turn Your Nightmares into Sweet Dreams

"You're listening to the amazing women and men of power positive programming network get ready to be uplifted, encourage, inspire, and empower. Our goal is to help you reach yours. We do that by making a difference in pain and for one interview one show one message at a time. Stay tuned. Here we go. Welcome to amazing women and being a power or glad that you're here another day. Another amazing interview to inspire you. But I did you know that? A great lady by the name of Eleanor Roosevelt was known for saying this call the future belongs to those who believe. In the beauty of their dreams always like that. I. Don't want this. What do you do then? I'm glad you asked us I have certified green light close Debbie Specter Weisman here, and be you know she is an empower lessee her mission is to empower dreamers to live a life that they love and she believes that when you understand your dreams. Even, the nightmares. It, you unlock the key to your soul and learn how to use them for success self awareness, self confidence, and so much more. She. Also, Debbie says, no dream is more to understand Ben your nightmares who really that's what she said she is here to tell us how to turn them into sweet dreams you can apply to your daily life. So our topic is from fair to cheer how Turner Nightmare into sweet drains. A can we really do that Debbie? Raven. I am going to blow your mind. Nightmare is the best thing that could ever happen to you. It is a big if. If you understand it at know how to work with. It really is. Can you believe it? Is kind of hard to believe but I am open and because I just had a couple of nightmare a couple of days ago a couple of them and they could be scared you wake up your hearts beating faster. You don't you. You kind kinda like a fall advice was that drain didn't happen and I would imagine during the Kobe nineteen people from what I understand on the news here struggling with sleep I knew I have many times and they find ourselves make waking up. With. Crazy dreams in well, a lot of was watching the news a lot right. So what are you finding during this time with your context? Just curious. Well it's true There is much anecdotal. Evidence that people are bringing their dreams more now than they ever have in the past and unfortunately most of the streams are nightmares. Because when? You. Dream. Most people will say, they don't dream though say they don't remember their dreams The truth is that we all dream retrieved between six tonight dreams tonight. But most people don't remember their dreams because they just don't think they're import. At, an order to work with your dreams, you really do have to think they're important. So what happens is. One Night Boko to sleep and will have a nightmare. And that's our subconscious telling us. This you have to pay attention to the stream. That people don't vote people just like they're. They're scared they end up getting going through the next day feeling scared nine. Shis. that. They realized that they stop in really pay attention to what dreams telling them. It could make all the difference in the world. So we have to pay attention to our dreams. Okay. So let's say we aren't mate with engine drivetrain and but we still we don't know exactly what it made. I mean that's something we can go or how do we how able to? Really now, what that? Dream, Matt. Well, for one thing, you can ask me because what I? What I do help people understand their dreams but even even if you don't go to somebody like me, there are some things you can do and I have a three step process for helping you. Work, with your nightmare so that you can get something out of it. Well, the first step in this is to make real. and. What I mean by that is that like I said, most people don't. Remember their dreams are don't believe they're important. And just tell you a little. A couple of examples of dreams that changed the world just give you example how wide dreams are important. Up there was a guy named Eli. Whitney hit vented. This thing called the sewing machine. You may have heard her that. He was in the process of trying to come up with the sewing machine. He was. He was just I mean he didn't know how to put the needle in to get the thread to make the thread woven everything one night he had actually you call it the nightmare he had a streak where these Savages for ready. He was running away from the savages a giant spears in their head in their hands at had the presence of mind the dream to look around and he saw. The spirit, the very tip of the spears had holes in them. He realized that that was the missing link in terms being able to make A. Machine where he had to realize he had to put the needle at the bottom the whole the bottom of the needle, not at the top. And that was how he invented the sewing machine One of my favorite dream stories is. About Paul McCartney who came up with the Melody for the Song Yesterday In a dream. And we're very lucky that he didn't use the lyrics that he came was his dream because the lyrics he dreamt were. Not a bad singer. So please bear with me. scrambled. Thanks how I love those scrambled eggs. So he think those words that you haven't the music and of course that. Was Revolutionary Song at everybody knows loves to stay. There are a zillion examples of dreams all through the ages from seven thousand years ago with the first recorded dream was revealed up to the present day. So dreams are important. So when you get that nightmare pay attention to it that step number one. Step number two is to feel it. And when I need that is. Right down. The dream right down as many details as you can about it read it over and over. Embody the emotion, the dream how did you feel about this night nightmare? What how did you feel about it in the nightmare itself and how you feel about it afterwards, reading it over and over look at the symbols that are in the tree because unfortunately out dreams don't come to us in. Nice English sentences they come to us in symbols and most people to give up on taking to their dreams because they can't understand the symbols. It seems crazy so. They don't bother with it. But. Take the time. Look at those symbols like said, you can ask somebody like may or or May, or you can look the symbols in a dream dictionary you can. You know there are millions of all you get them online, you can buy them. They're handy because they give us the. Common Meanings for symbols and that could be helpful for most people. A lot of people given the gives the nature of the dream. Where it's a problem is where? The symbol doesn't make sense or meaning of the symbol in the dictionary doesn't make sense with your dream. I'll give an example about that. So you couldn't say I'm say. this happened to me when my very first clients she had a dream involved chickens. Ed According to Dream Dictionary Yeoh achieve that chickens means you're you're fearful or you've had you have worries or your you're feeling small you're you're. You're anxious about something. That's the standard meaning for having chicken and your dreams will turn out that she loved chicken chicken's for her pets. So the tire meaning of the dream change because of. What the symbol of the chicken meant in her dream. So, you look at the symbols you look at the events. and. Really get a sense of. What do these symbols made to me in? How do they relate to each other and how they relate to the dream how they relate to me in my life? And then the third and final step. is to reveal and he'll. When I mean by that is once you have these symbols, you ask yourself, how does this relate to what's going in my life right now? As you find very often that. Ah Dream. especially a nightmare because nightmares. Urgency. There's something urgent going on in our life that's bothering us and the Stream is going to give us clues on how to deal with it. So you look at how the dream or the nightmare relates to your life. And then once you get that. A hobby moment you realize that that final step is action to honor the dream. What can you do using this new knowledge to go forward vice to make a difference? Okay what's the real reason behind our nightmares? Well the real reason well, like I said, I'm going to get little one here. So bear with me. Right now, as we're talking to each other in our daily lives when we're awake. Our prefrontal Cortex of our brain. That's the poor vertebrae. That's a front of our head. That's active. That's our rational mind. That's how we go through our daily lives. But we go to sleep that part of our brain shuts down. And our subconscious brain wakes up and vigil visual CORTEX WAKES UP, which is why we see images when we're dreaming. Well. My belief in the belief of most people who study dreams is that. The subconscious. Holds our pure thoughts, our deepest thoughts, the thoughts that reveal who we are. And I say that because during the day. Right now we're all reading around. With those little voice constantly talking in our head and. My numbers might be off but there's something like ninety thousand thoughts day that goes through our head back and forth back and forth back and forth. Most of them are negatives. So. Those negative self limiting beliefs are or how we live our likes. When that part of her shuts off at night. Or subconscious giving pure thoughts. It's not that little voice. This is so. Pure. Real voice but speaking to us, it doesn't have those layers of. Doubts and fears. And all the negativity that we run around with all the time. So we pay attention to those. Images in in the meetings we get from those images they really give us the guidance that we need. To I only live our but live our life more productively off more choices. Wow. This is just a every time I talked about this fascinating because I remember the other day talking telling you I had this nightmare. My were watching TV I kind of quick second but then I jumped up on like this big. Bergen we looked at that. We couldn't find it and police say. You don't stop for a minute. So you know you probably had a bad green. What does that? Buggy jury Allow I. Remember You told me when I work in interesting share. Yeah well it's funny I just say this you are not alone will. Like like I, said because of Covid at what's happening and there are two actually conflicting theories about this one theory is that because people are home more and. Not You know they don't have enlarged talk wake up in the morning to go out to work there sleeping more. So they're getting more their complete remm cycles, and as we go through the the sleep cycle of our dreams, most of the dreams we have happened in the REV cycle asleep so That's why people remember their dreams more because their sleep is. More together and it's another conflicting theory that says no because our sleep so disruptive that you know the nightmares just come. At. US. But anyway, up one of the things about dream work that I so fascinating in about the symbols is it very often? Dreams. Love. Word Clay. So People Dreaming About Bugs especially how? Bug is kind of a play on you know COVA COVERT IS A. Disease it's a bug yard slang for disease to be a bug. So you may be prompted by the news, you hear on the television about covert it's the bug. So you treat me about bugs, but the other part of that is that. Bug can also mean something's bugging do. It could be something bothering you and this is showing up in your dream. So if you can relate to what's bothering you in your. Regular life. You can say, Oh, this is something I need to pay attention to. The our biggest thing is Kobe the worry of that. There's a lot of a lot of stress and I know mine just went to get groceries every time he goes back get groceries and come back in the were clean everything and it seems like for the next few days of I call sneeze is water anything I go into panic because we've been out houses stuff business, Gary Time and so thank you for sharing that with me and all you other bug dreamers like me at least we know right something's bugging us or something and watching a lot of news during this time is probably not the best thing to do either right. Not Not. At all, I tell you know I I have podcast dream power radio and I've been spending a lot of time it. It's viewing people who Are. Telling us not only how to just survive through this crisis but had a thrive during this crisis and the thing I hear from everybody is to stay off the media. It. You don't have to be watching TV because just give us all the negativity. You know the standard phrase you know for bleeds leads. So you're just GonNa get all the negativity from that and it will seep through into your consciousness when you're sleeping. So the more, you feed yourself negativity in the daytime, it will appear in the nighttime. So. You don't have to watch TV to get the news you could just get you know breed headlines off off your phone or you know if you're really old fashioned, get a newspaper and it it, you'll get the information the same way but to have that anxiety inducing feeling that you get. This is good stuff. Hey, you're just too lenient this rain blurt loving rave and the talk show maybe you're to into the three time award winning amazing women and men of power show. We also like to share with some. You know we also have Rave International TV network. So you can catch many of our shows many of these as well as you. Know the our hosts Debbie's one of whole. She has during our podcast on you can find the right up undermines in all of our amazing women of power in. Um you go to apple podcasts, but also jazz dream power T. V.. So we should check our TV network national TV network can be found on Roku Amazon fire one of these days on apetit big. been trying to figure that one out but this happened. Are you one that's having nightmares in the ever wonder why would he missed the front go back and listen to the beginning part of this that also coming up we're GONNA talk to Debbie about what she does and how she can help you understand your dreams whether they're nightmares or not. Hey, you know we're in the middle where the fit of being nineteen in twenty twenty If you're listening to this afterwards in Colin Five consider yourself lucky before. All was dealing with it It's it's extremely serious and one thing I. Know that we need to make sure we do is get a good night's sleep and it's Ok to drain a unit, but we want to have those pleasant dreams. Those ones that won't wake us up with a heart beating fast and those that will help us have a better day the next day. So let's get back and talk with Debussy was she has to say so that they. Can we have a peaceful dream? Pleasant dream and does it help us to have a better day Louis Do? Oh absolutely, and I'll give you some quick tips on how to. Not. Going to guarantee the good night's sleep but it certainly go a long way toward making that happen. Step what the step one is to Make your bedroom. Your own personal palace, you really honor the bed is the place where you you spend the third of your life sleeping so honored. make sure that you have the the finest bed linens you can afford a you know, keep your needs keep your bedroom. NEAT. Don't have clothes lying around or papers stacked up on on your night table leave your night table very clean. The only thing should have on it is A. notebook and a pen, and that's the right down your dreams otherwise keep it clear. The other thing is don't forget a Roma aromatherapy therapy is very, very important Have you room smell lovely lavender's wonderful sent. That helps induce dream. So spray lavender around your pillow or or put a little sachet under your pillow. The said is also important. That mice. Are because all of our senses. Affect us. Okay. So if if smelling something sweet. You're more likely to have a sweet dream. That's interesting. Okay. Now, I heard Jack Cancel say on a call was that he has a lavender in he heard revenue at the bottom of your feet. Help you sleep little. Yes. Yup, so I've done that a couple of times because I didn't have a bottle of lavender. My son got me when I was in Hawaii in January. And I think it also releases your re releases stress too so. Don't other things. Yet another thing they're also induces a good night's sleep is to shut off all your media. Don't if you can don't have media in your bedroom bishop, shut it off me released an hour before you go to bed. The light from the? Screen can affect. And like we said, you know having those negative thoughts is not a good thing refrained from Eddie caffeine or alcohol at least four hours before you go to bed 'cause I'd also is not healthy for producing good dreams. Also. How Sleek. thing that like I let you give enhances that will good as well. So. Nights. But you definitely won't be careful with the alcohol like you said it drink it just don't drink it in just. Instantly. Go, sleep. which which unfortunately, it helps us. Sleep. Interesting. But it's not a good. These are some great. You got a couple more share. Well, just say when you get ready to go to sleep. You could do what's called a dream declaration and what that means is when you're all nice and comfy in your bed and you've got your. Sheets and blankets all snuggled up in next to you. Say to, yourself? Tonight I'm going to. have a sweet -treme. Add not only say it but actually breakdown in that notebooks put next to your your night table say tonight is going to have a sweet dream. And the very first time you do it a marketing guarantee it's GonNa work. I'll be honest about that but if you do that on a consistent basis. It works. And over time. You'll see your your dreams will get pleasant and your end like I said, you will get some insights into your life. I can help you. Love? This about what you did. Okay. 'CAUSE we're getting close to time and definitely want to talk about. Your Dream coaching. What does that look like? Contact new. So I'm just GonNa give you the next two minutes in share with US Debbie. Okay, well, I am a certified Dream Life coach, which means that I help people understand their dreams and owe me go over a dream in depth It thought just a quick in. Oh, here's the simplest what it means to be an I talk. Ask a lot of questions because the other truth is that. It's not enough for me to tell you what your dream means us. I might tell you something you might say, oh. Yeah I. Guess So. It's not until you understand in your heart what the dream means. That, it becomes real. It becomes effective. So I go through a whole series of questions so that The personnel I'm working with has that. Moment is all this is what my dream means. And I, help them along the way but that's only step one. Because, very often especially when people come to me with troubling dreams the dreams. Are Revealing an inner conflict that's going on a person's life either they have back south confidence or they're a crossroads in her life in not sure where to go and a lot of uncertainty or they have the decision to make and. They're not able to do it. Any guidance were there. A lot of different things that dreams could mean. I that that's the coaching part is need helps the person. Worked through whatever's holding. Them back. And they're therefore they're able to go on with their lives be more productive, find their purpose, find their passion, regain their self confidence. Gain more self awareness. And live life to call their dream life. Out. Anybody who wants to get in touch with me I love talking to people. you go to my website, the dream coach Dot net. Nations, the dream coach, dot net deep coaches, all one word and DOT net I offer a complimentary thirty minute dream discovery session. So if you go to the website, you'll see the little message there you click on it and bill scheduled time to go for. A V.. Might have already questions. You might have about dreams I can help you. Show you how to remember your dreams. Give you more understanding White James Important anything that you want I will offer in that thirty minute session. Also I love email. So if you want contact me, my email is Debbie. That's the B. B. E. Debbie at the drink coach Dot net and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have about dreams. This has been really great. Now I know you. I know that you have been doing this for a while and you know I heard it those dream. Sessions, you give are. Amazing. So who is the ideal person that? Should pick up the phone or email you time. Thank you. Well because I came into dream work, you know sort of late in life a when I was having a crisis in my life and I had a dream that changed my life and showed me how important dreams were. You know I want to you know show everybody else the importance of dreams. Now, it could change their life. So the people I love to work with our people who are in a state of transition Women I welcome and also, but women who are in a in a stage finish their empty nesters they. Earn job situation. Maybe they're retired having health issues. Wherever the having a crisis in their life in need the direction, they can get by following their dreams. Wow So. Hey. If you is are you know had bad dreams or even if you've ever even had interest in in dreams that you in the past have now. Whether good or bad dreams, I love the fact that Debbie teaches in educator on why we should pay attention to our dreams in that they all is needing something. So it's nice to know what they need Daddy. Thank you. Again it's always great to have you on here we so appreciate. Is there anything that I didn't ask you that you would like to take? The final minute in share with our listeners. Just again, want to reiterate. The importance of dreams they're not to be taken lightly they've not to be ignored. They, give us so much wisdom. And like I said people throughout the ages. have. Looked to their dreams for answers. You are the you have the. Solution to your own problems within you when you do understand your dreams. Hey. You've been listening to Debbie Specter wise. She certify coach and as I said earlier, her mission is to empower dreamers to live the life they love. Today. Our topic has been from fear to cheer how to turn your nightmares into sweet dreams, and if you didn't listen to the entire episode. At rewind. Replay you WANNA go back to there's some juicy stuff in there and I loved the tips that she shared every member cut off the news. You know cut off your devices. You can have a really good night's sleep in Keith Dad eligible. Or Nine, right? Yeah. That's Nice Dan Clean Debbie says right demi. On a your bed space, I love Army DESMA. All except for the teed, that's my problem I know it's so hard for me to go to sleep with silence the. Music Sweet Music Soft Music Ego Sleep on that helping happiness me. Assure Music Music is fine. Lovely. Music is also it's very soothing. On. That you don't want the jarring. It's really the visual of television. That's the issue. Music Yeah. Yeah I love to You know either on new or an apple foot meditation using good sleep music united. I want I don't want any be here not the same type of music I listen to what I'm up and you know. But more. My Mellow GonNa. Say I sleep like a baby on my goodness? On Iron. So the and I wake of them. Sorry, refresh ready to go. You know. So then he daddy, we appreciate your thank each and everyone of you tune it includes please please do this for me your family from the Wenjie states they. Practice Kobe nineteen safety rules. 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Episode 55: Armageddon: Inferno issue 1

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Episode 55: Armageddon: Inferno issue 1

"Hey dear listeners brother head here. Quick introduction before I get going with this episode. One I, want to apologize for the delay week behind actually month week but that's another story. I got delayed with my own being Simone head and. Everything going on me I governing behind. But here is this month's episode also, originally, this was going to have armageddon inferno issues one and two covered but due to again getting stuck amount head have my own problems. I've only doing the first issue this month and next to the second issue, and then I'll do the last two in the following month so. Or maybe, I'll do all three next month haven't decided yet. anyways, to be a quick, you know why it's late and what's going on this still here. Checkout just launched a new domain head cast network dot com you can get on my show is on there is still a working progress. I. Have a lot of people go into the website making. Comments I'm not sure people's listen an individual websites head dot hit speaks dot com, and so forth. right now ahead, cast network, you can listen to the last five episodes. Of each show I've got all my shows on there, I got hit cats network feed on there and again it's work in progress so it may be changing to go along I will be having links back to the regular you know Gi, Joe Dot hit speaks with the main everything like I usually do ahead dot dot com and all that but right now it's a little more bare bones I'm working on fixing things up a little bit I want to get that out there of also updated my brother head I'm sorry my hit speaks dot com website. So, be sure to check that out and a final thing for this episode about halfway through again a to get this episode record to life about halfway through in ordering some new Mike's new. Mike. So about fifteen minutes or so in. When I'm talking about I'll play a little clip from. Good golly Miss, molly a little Richard Riot for that I talk a bit and then I will be switching over to a new, Mike so you guys. Thank and. That's enough talking. It's been two minutes or so let's get on with the show. Brings in. Bugs. Faces. Off. Guard by several their true believers, this is head speaks a proud member. The head cast network family shows as usual. I am your host Aaron Moss Aka head. This is my mostly monthly hit cast about comics movies. We'll play games, TV shows and anything else Geeky that I want. So sit back and enjoy the right bless begin. Your listeners to episode fifty, five of its beaks, this timeout bring you what's his long box as I start on the next Armageddon. Miniseries. Armageddon Verte. Were looking issues went to this time. And that's probably yet. So let's go ahead and move onto that. Road Bumper. Than a speeding bullet. The great home of the Justice League fighter man and his amazing friends. Justice League of America. Dome. Third Watson as long. Troop. Justice. Morals don't. Shoot. Talked about my intro this month we're gonNA start looking at Armageddon, inferno issues wanted to. Get started I would want to say thanks to Mike sneezy order comics, which is A. Dot, Mike's me oral dot com for all this information. Mike is a great ciphers officers. So the first issue, horse Armageddon Inferno number one. The covered, it was April nineteen, ninety two, the on Selby was they were the twentieth s nineteen, Ninety two. The writers wonder. This issues called seeds of doom. The writer with John. Who Again I do several podcasts on. I. Love the. Actually. Love that will innings. Pensions Luke Gall. Teamed up from the suicide squad. Artist Tom Mandrake, are through Adams Michael Netzer in all. Yours Bruce in Seoul. Letter John Costanza. colorist Janelle enter was Dennis on the all. Covers done by Michael Netzer and just sign. In here's a Synopsis Of the Synopsis Actually gave the DC Wiki. Wave writer slice the time straight missiles a sharp stabbing. Me tells that someone or thing is rubbing the time stream. Attracts disruption to present day Wyoming Valley called the devil's bones. Their toe people have been drawn evoke derive love Abraxas. Your wave writers, recent exploits. Abraxas. became aware time stream in other dimensions. You County could exert subconscious influence on certain Mitchell's death coordinating the events of his own sons unfortunately, the summers only enough to lie into contact. But not introduced mentioned. Weaver attempts the arena breakfast manages to capture him. Braxton offers Toba chance to wise side as he conquers dimension by giving him, their souls offer to which they agree. Takes the souls, Murchison visits, Power Hocus, pocus returns fire therefore for their by transforming them. Artisans called the Danane. tells. Them that order foyer the David must construct four giant bodies all silica in Florida wintertime. Device the Damon into four groups of three in order to Bill Slash Tech Eastern. Waiver managed to escape abraxas bonds defies the four eras. Use every possible futures using dinovite, which else he puts. Nine. Were combat the Damian in summary Now horizon normal time. The Far Future Yang wavered Legia superheroes. He isn't slash Marshon and honor Bauer Road Superman Choya in we're one. In this World War Two is confined do spear of destiny's insolence huge existing soldiers like the members of easy happy losers augmented within your Ian Haug hot woman. Prehistory wave rhetoric in simple enemy hase. Enemy Ace. Geiger Logo Ryan in Star Fire. In recent past, where than likely August twenty first making any one he says Batman creeper firestorm specter in ultra ably. These shows fight members Damian last like zombies people the time period and the skits serum. But these efforts were fueled as the. Process by portion Abraham is his consciousness. Was Learn how say suet removal better because I know? Talk coming up pretty soon. got a little bit. Little bit years getting start up. anyways let's go ahead and move on to the actual issue in and get my thoughts on it as I usually do. I I, read this when I came and. I enjoyed it in quotes actually remember liking the last one armageddon is a little better. But. Part was our artwork is lower darker grittier like I said are the artists Tom Mandrake. Does. Sorry has McDonnell who does eight darker? Grittier time not time but a darker grittier. Characters Olive on suicides logged on a superhero book not the US stand. So. The artwork on this overall. Is. Okay. agreed law places for me but. It is what it is. So good and look at the issue I as usual will start to cover. Our local top armageddon inferno number one yellow your way right on the side. The. Mini series the main coverage self wave writer he's tied up with REX's energy beings behind him a Batman, the specter of the creeper, all lending at him. To occur. It's not too heavily in does not to Dr I like this cover. Trooper. Van Mineral nicely done. It's it's a classic gray in Blue Batman. I grew up with. So I wave writers did nicely again, we can see the Italian pain from his energy deans around him. Overall I really liked this cover. One of self I page to get with A. Splash. Page from why wind rave writer. This was done. Looks like penciled by League. McDonnell in here on the first page, it breaks down who does what? So again before I just briefly read off what I got from zero. But officially. Donald Pencil majors one, hundred nine. Tom Mandrake Pencil. To, twenty. Four. Are Adams aged ten might netzler give page eleven won't size debate twelve. inkers. Go. Bruce M Solos ages one through nine Tom mandaric thirteen to twenty four. So looks like he penciled Azzoni six. Hustles. Are Atoms page again, he did the any. Netzer. Page eleven. Lakes and. Debate twelve. So looks like they all did their own pencils except for ages one through nine, which is done by legal and Bruce. Off. That name roller mop up but. This is not a bad page a backside of wave writers, sizes, Time Stream we title this issue seeds do it's not a bad image is just. Me As I've said, elsewhere in a probably ear in my superhero comics I like little more the four color little. Clarity of. Its. I like the darker grittier style like on suicide squad fits. I know. John, deere. Tom Mandrake worked on the specter again, the darker radio. WORKED ON NATS. On this one year, I personally would prefer more cleaner our style. Nothing, it's bad. It's just not what I would prefer for something containing you know regular superheroes. But he notable laurels not bad. It's just again. I'm doubling back on myself. It's our were. And like say here on page, what is this page three? We got. Quo panels will thirteen panels panels with India Joe Faces. Lightning flashing weather ads. This is a nice page I. do like this. Where shows twelve people? It's racks us. And this got panel panerabread with AIDS. Panel below its. And we've got some words in the middle of the boxes I do like the way this is laid out and censor something a demon this part of it actually, I don't really have a problem with votes. In fact, the next page worry it's like a long view show twelve people we show like. Color wins and whatnot. Lightning fire is an eye open. This is really nice in fact. If he'd been my druthers if I'd been in charge I would probably had. and. I personally I probably would have had. Lou McDonnell. Do these pages with the demon coming in I probably would have signed some of the more superhero pages to a more. Clear. Cut Super. If you will won't sinuses it a lot but again I and. This may be blasphemy, but I'm not a huge fan of a lot of whole to work except for in certain titles because again he can be a bit darker radio, Hall So. You're on page four I believe it is these pages aren't number. So I'm just kind of gets made him. A huge is owned fire. This is a very nice panel. I love with Emily laid out. A not a lot of awards at this point law dialogue. But calm in. In big speech bubble very. Nice. And then we cut like say toward overheads yielded a guy in the fire people boil on and we get to wave rier ship in my opinion I would personally add someone else do these pages. Early may be have shown were of Labor donal. I I love. Loopholes are were in I. Say it's a certain style and superhero stuff I normal as elsewhere prefer. I said earlier. A cleaner style. So I would have probably mixed. Tom Mandrake and donal with somebody else along these pages personally. Again I'm not saying they're bad is Luba donal. All. These August are great artists. So I'm not saying it's bad. It's just not what I prefer for this type of book. But what? I say that but parts, it's really fantastic because it really hit. The Darker Isis how your wave rider being encircled by the car on the cover with the energy beans. With people on their this page is a great page. And the next page the is I talked the synopsis, which is Abraxas. Firing on these people. And we're GONNA description where he says he's GonNa, turn them into Damian's. He's time we see four different. Beings if you will with three people each going to himes. This all. I think for the most part and again I'm by myself as I go through this. So please bear with me as I fight internally. Into podcasting. It's coming out externally. Over. With our like it or not? Because I've got mixed feelings. Because some of it's really fantastic and celebrate what's good Goodhart Work Again it's not quite what I. Look for. With a superhero book so Again. I have mixed feelings on this one. In I know a lot of people one. Happy with these Armageddon mini series of last one like I said, I talked about by I ask my fellow podcasters. No one wanted to talk it out it. Talk me about it. This here, a few more people are a little more interested but no one was really had time when I got to it. So. But like see this here, it's not quite as. Say This quotes disliked mainly because this series brings back eventually the Justice Society of America. which a lot of people love I enjoy him to I don't have a lot of people do but I enjoy just site Americans so. That's why anchors will cure gets less eight I guess is the best word. Than a lot of the other books or series now right before this world. So. Back to this book though. We get wave varieties energy being he's thinking are we breakfast are the power perhaps where tensions? Were I can break. Is He, bus freely bonds it held him. Any flies off. It again, the next few pages shows wave wave writer in the time stream trying to. Ease finding out where the beings of went. And he is trying to find heroes that he can use. That's not gonNA mess up the time stream. From different times in the here on patiently gets page ten, we get a shot of. Martian manhunter. Wonder Woman Troia. Flash, which I believe is a long west Flash Superman power girl. News talking about using the future beyond when it created me time. We just like doormats. Is, call the falling talk about Isis. Called Superman wonder woman troy flash? Power Bill. Martian manhunter. Is the greatest seen in any era. Will. There be enough to stop praxis. Against the next pages, we see him calling the heroes Zena calling on the next page we see calling the Sergeant Rock in the losers along with the figurine man and woman this is the Post Crisis A. Hawk. Metal Wings Again their victory, he said the world, War Two can. Only do very little because these guessing spirit destinies what Hitler had back in the Jesse comics in. Folks Oughta pre-crisis this is what kept heroes what they use say they kept heroes out of war were too. Because all superhero were to wrote array on like why don't the heroes who stop it? The writers came up with this very guessing, which is the that Mama Stations. Pierce sight of Christ on the Cross. It was a new power. Hitler had stop superpower people from coming over to. Europe and fighting in World War Two. So apparently, the spirit destiny non-olympic superheroes, it can also affect A. Cosmic beans like. Wave Writer. The next paid to be starfighter Guy Gardner, any as Lobo in Orion. Orion is from the new gods I hit or miss a FEM. Logo. I. Really. Like at times I, really like him for a while vector of the top Korea hit a signature by wall Simonson looks like. Guy Gardner is a green lantern enemy AC's from more were. To say. We get star fire. who was they said they took it from the early days of the new titans. Sitting ties I, wonder if it means the new teen titans because this was probably about around the time that the new titans came out. And See. anyways show this could be heroes, and then the last page we show of this little section. He talks about how he's calling for. Jona used to call ultra voyages birtles not mistaken ultra boy was Kinda like Superman type character in quotes, but he won power at a time. I infamous earlier years he takes firestorm and holds the creeper. Any polls Batman he says he'd find me like you suspect her the inspector is you know God's wrath or God's pigeons f. off hand. But Again. Firestorm shows up in as I said before firestorm is one of my. Favorite characters, ISLA firestorms I'm happy that he shows up. See present-day gotten city wear Batman soups down and talks to commissioner. Gordon in Commissioner Gordon has eight or around him. which lets us know that someone's possessing him. COMES, down Gordon's like all Obama. Glad you could come. And Badge right away like you're not Commissioner Award who are you? Why did you like the best thing? In a way writer shows himself. He's like, how'd how'd you know it wasn't working? Nimbus about Gordon had not the glow he's also given up smoking. Scored was standing there smoking a cigar. And this was the point where in the early nineties smoking. Watch I. To the wrong way. Smoking always been bad that. People have in the nineties really came down smoking and people were kind of upset superheroes smoking like. Even Heroes but people like Gordon James Gordon, and who'll rain and other characterised spoke. Sits bad precedent for, kids. So they gave a mistaken by this point, the game by Jim Gordon Heart attack. Because of the smoking give it up. So that's another reason Batman knew that this wasn't that Gordon he knew. I don't know why wave rider would realize this but. Rural hit. And so. Wave riders plays a man what's going on in Batman says, he wasn't where he shift people time because wave rider as we talked about over the last several months I'm sorry over the last year or two. Wave writer can actually shift people. He goes look at People's futures looking there pass Ansi what's going to happen till these possible futures? which talked about over the last two years is kind of problematic but we're not gonNA go data yet. But. He tells ladies coordinate advice from some individuals future. And I believe you furtively did a superheroes. Batmans like. Don't want me 'cause 'cause not my strong point. He's like Jewish people. I can pull from certain junctures and you push out messing with reality. Because Bam's like. That way how can I refuse? Take somewhere else remains the creeper from the recent past. Talk The synopsis. Places recognize. This is probably August the twenty first ninety one as what was going on here. Looking at this was. There in Moscow, he was on the night after the recent coup. Try to throw out Gorbachev. And again because he and Batman came from our present and he was set back to the recent past sent back to. August. Nineteen nineteen ninety one era rier what year. So again them in says that. Is talking about how they're in. Moscow. Reports, rock band shrines spirits. zagged. Changes it. Richard Henry. took. The. Reds aren't rushing anymore. Never mind this is my wave brought me back nine or you fold. That our probably lightning in the distance and I've got to say here at the very bottom of this page, the scene of Batman and the creeper it's in the darkness. Got The rain falling. With a couple of very nice images here I really loved the way. Cyber Batmans almost blending into the background 'cause. So dark creeper. And then at the last on this page, the lightning striking and we had a similar of the has really nice. I like that. And, in the next couple pages shows Batman and the creeper taking on. this. This circle moreover is called this body they're building for the bad guy. Abraxas that's his name. And Like the creeper I don't love them but I always enjoyed the creeper he he's a very. Interesting character I love the way he's he's a little insane. He's Kinda joker to me mixed with. Little Batman combined. Guess 'cause he's trying to do good. But again, he's lawn insane signed in Saint side insane side. He's got green hair yellowish greenish skin something like that. he's got a red. Shower Outta my yes. I have read a whole lot of creeper by have read some of the especially when I first got into comics in yeah he's just a very interesting character i. think it secret origins. For the show Ryan dailies had a podcast on. Definitely check that out but. See I love the. This this. Servant I guess What do you call them OSC call them. SAYS EARNING WAS A. Good idea. But. Now, she's like Clayton mind tricks on the creeper not going again as I said, the creepers will insane. So. These mind tricks don't work. So on him I mean it's like Transplant Mitra Joker is Jewish gonNA laugh and go through it. That's what he does here he. is He's jumped through. He's like what does love wasn't here's a moment ago. Would you play games of me rash mortal shot subjects with my own eyes he lasts elites across. The other side of the lava. In the the Gal Husky Saint is no game. The maze does in the traps will not cease sooner or later you will die and again the creeper as I said repeatedly, he's insane he's like everyone dies you go i. I don't know the origins of the creepers. Creation. But I wonder how much of the joker or thoughts of the jokers involved? With the CREPE same hair colour, he's always laughing much like the joker. Looks, very much like a joker initially Wanna be but a joker inspired character to me. I'd. Be. Curious. When they came up with a creeper how decisions were made to make like years it's interesting. outside of Batman, and we have ultra from the Legion of superheroes. This. He's nine and a costume. So I think this maybe from the five year later run. possibly. Yankee will fight your leader leader was running at this time. So this was when the Legion of superheroes comic was a darker comic It was more I said, it was a lot of superhero costumes in it. They were costumes They went by the Real Maine's fact. When Batman meets them? Otherwise like Batman, this Aron Amazon has a metal he's like your advantage me friend. And ultra like the names Jonah. Coulter, boy on with allegiance superheroes and a couple of centuries in the future. And he said someone guy with electric hair we it was wave writer till mid his future was. He was a future that. was to be. And that he was needed the past. So. Again, the of the Legion of superheroes was as I said was a very darker book at this time. He was very much like drawn like this lot of blacks oughta heavy inks So I think Gennaro at this point fits in well, and yes his name is Joanna sounds like Joanna NFL not mistaken I believe his origin is tied into a cosmic whale or something like that. Not Mistaken I am pretty sure that it is very much biblical reference. In fact, again, that's who I am I had to look up. I knew something about a well, it's baseball or something because I remember Jonah and well. But yeah, according to the wikipedia on them. He gained his powers when the vehicle he was flying through outer space in swallowed by Ultra Energy Beast, AKA space will. EXPOSE THEM RELATIONAL INSIDE And again, his own as I said is dry from the big biblical figure Jonah. who was sold by large fish often interpreted. So you know I, remember elmer are I heard that out? I did member that his name was tied into. And I never caught that when I first started reading the Legion of superheroes. If sometime after that that I caught similar point was pointed out to me that. Because I know as origins I found out he's spoiled by space well, and that was the biblical reference there. So I think again, this I enjoyed this version superheroes even though I'm more a four color superhero person, I'd enjoy what he was Giffen was doing on this book. Any and so if you're off therefore superheroes or low boy, he picks Batman up and flies off with them and Batmans like you could fly. And as we get a little bit of exposition explaining his powers, he says, he can only use one energy use the energy. Don't want power to time speed strength ability. So ultra boy is Kinda like a superman, but he's very limited unlike superman new can use your flying and strength and vision all this same time. Joanna. Could only use one or the other he pick one of his his hours us at a certain time. which it can make him very vulnerable because he's flying. Or using a speed or something, he's not invulnerable. So he he's an interesting character. Which is actually used the store right here on this on this next page here at the bottom there being blasted by one of these husks. And? He says he al again we get little exposition out of this. He's like got switched Rubio. As he gets blasted so he's flying and he gets blasted for it. Switched availability gets taken out and has van Goghs? Falling we turn the page. And Batman has saved by one of the greatest superheroes created. Firestorm, shows up. Firestorm flies down grabs, Batman and Batman notices that from the looks of them if before he became a fire elemental. As I talked about before on the show firestorm is one of my favorite heroes. He was written created by Gerry Conway. And around the fifties or so of his own book, I believe it was jerry kind of start running out of steam The book was on a downward spin not spend a downward angle and so they brought John Auction drawing-board to live in sales up to to make some changes. and. That's when John brought in. Joshua, the brought in Mike L. Arkan on the Russian made him become part of firestorm and then revealed there were the he was the fire elemental in all those changes. So this takes place right before that. This is the firestorm I. Love. He's got the puffy sleaze. He's got the he's the younger. He's still an adult looking body, but he used he looks younger than he does after. Becomes a fire elemental in joins up with my cow because he's taller and thinner, and just he looks a little different. But again, I I loved the caution firestorm. Of Intel where he's flying because he got his hair, his fiery hair streaks the bag chronic star fire over the titans. I. Love Maybe I'm crazy I love the puffy sleeves on them. Again we get. Little. More out firestorm. Batman tells him what he needs to do. And we hear firestorm again if you're not familiar with them, listen more my chef talked about him. Firestorm. is to people. He's a young kid a young kid this when he's a coach. Name Ronnie Raymond who merges with a professor Professor Stein and Ronnie's control. The body fesser Stein is the the mindscape if you will any helps running out. So Ronnie talks to them out loud buildings. He's crazy half the time because he's he's having half conversation and we see that here. Because he's like, what's the Scam Batman? Get the burning hands and destroy the circle I can't say that word anyways and then we so he's blasting the fire. Guy. and run come on it'll be a snap. WHO's getting cocky. So you know I like I like we see Professor Stein and in their hockey back and forth. But I also like seeing some times where just Ronnie's into the conversation and you're kind of feeling in what professors tines actually saying I think it's interesting and it shows how other people around Ronnie. I'm sorry firestorm season views. Here's when when he talks. And again here at the bomb, these pages aren't number which I hate I think it's bought a page twani looks like. Aphids firestorms blasting the circle guy. Really pushing that word. We Batman and John Ogden back down the ground any Batman th this is a love I don't I like it but I don't care as much for the darker the Batman all in black doing the movies and the more recent times. This is the Batman the great costume, the blue. CAPE. This is classic Batman and I love he's crouched here and he's got his Cape in front of him and Jonasson their behind, and there's a lot of shadows and we see mystery creature guys coming up towards Batman. It's like a donors like glitzy survived ban may bands like? Yes. We're not getting the job done against filling, running out of time but not us. And we had our our next appearance in this book, which is a specter. Again Specter at one time was the wrath of the wrath of God visions of. God. So he was the vengeance of God and Again, he shows up in the background we get a huge head of the specter be of good faith you'll not. You do not fight alone. And inspector shows up, he's very much a cosmic being. An Jones never met factories I is that Abraxas name bad guy and was like a spectre dodge just selectively in our favor. Get the specter fighting the HUSK. Because again, this factory is very causing very powerful. So the specter. Again. He takes on the main Husk while Batman firestorm and ultra boy. Fights the creatures and again, I i. like firestorm to be Brighter I. Like his book was a brighter more four color quotes but I liked the with the doing it here. On this page here where they're all fighting, there's not a lot of detail on firestorm, but there's enough that you know who it is. We get Batman again, the darkness in the shadows lives. This is great scene here this. Is Fighting create the creepers hitting one of the shadow demons going tag. and. All sudden. Abraxas were done by Damon. The task is completed. The time is ripe. The battles consummated Abraxas has come and firestorm. Again, firestorm is younger guy in this adult bodies like Bam are we in trouble as find these these creatures like, yes continued gala this last panel here Abraxas rising up. Specter firing upon them. We get the creeper down here by his feet fighting was creatures. We see not flying into one of the creatures, the blessing, the fire. We, get the back of firestorm and again, if this was an introduction of firestorm would be that great because we're not seeing the front of him, but it's great that he's flying away looking rather than Batman are we in trouble images? Yes. And that's this Enzi at Great Jong of Batman here. Like I said or two thousand, one overall I had some problems with but and then the was armageddon. Magadan the next series it wasn't bad. This one here. I don't remember a lot about it other than as I said, the jets returning. But I'm enjoying it so far. So. It is what it is. I like what I'm seeing. And I can't wait till next month three to the next issue. But that's going to do it for this time as I said earlier on the show this will be the shorter episode just because I ran out of time and what have you so we're going to end this right here. But please be back next month when I continue my look at. Armageddon Inferno. We will see the return of the GSA. At some points into the DC universe at this time. But I think that's to do it. Remember everyone until next month. Spoken. Thank you for listening to another fantastic episode of ED speaks. Hope you enjoyed it if so let me know grubby an email to head. Head speaks dot com or visit our home at head dot hit speaks dot com. You can also visit and talk with me on facebook and Google, plus both under head speaks you can offset an MP three file with your thoughts and I can play that on the ear. Hanging also get more of me on the other podcasts. 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SN 690: Are Passwords Immortal?

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SN 690: Are Passwords Immortal?

"It is time for security now Steve Gibson's here. And boy, do we have a big show for you. He's going to talk about the most recent hone to own and which operating systems fell to hackers attention the source behind all of these specter meltdown and other Intel processor woes and why it's going to be a tough one to fix. And then he's going to talk about passwords in the future of passwords. It's all coming up next on security now. That casts you love from people you trust. This is. This is security now with Steve Gibson episode six hundred ninety recorded Tuesday November twentieth. Twenty eighteen our passwords immortal security now is brought to you by rocket mortgage by Quicken Loans. Introducing rate shield approval, if you're in the market to buy a home, Rachel approval locks up your trip to ninety days while you shop it's a real game changer. 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I saw something do. Yeah. Yeah. What's what's the third Thursday of the month? The earliest it could be would be the twenty first, I guess. This is certainly close to that. Our topic is or the title of the podcast is asks the question are passwords immortal that is. That is will they never die. And this comes from an article, or this was inspired by an article that a friend of the podcast. Troy hunt wrote on fifteen days ago. He's he's the guy. Yes, he exactly he's the have. I been pony guy who offers the service that allows people to put their Email addresses into his site confidentially, and Troy gathers all of the breached data from websites that lose control of their data all over the internet and lets you know, if your Email is among those so anyway, so that's what that's the main topic. There wasn't a ton of news. So we have we have time to go into that in some detail. And I plan to I reached another milestone in the in my. Proposal for what may ultimately put passwords to rest. We'll see and I'm going to be a little more philosophical about where how I feel about that. Because I don't disagree with the position that Troy has I'm going to share what he wrote at the end of this podcast. And then we'll talk about it. And also put it into this context. But we also have as we anticipated last week was the twenty eighteen mobile phone to own hacking contest, which took place in Tokyo, and we talked there was a somebody had done a a zero day, which we covered a few weeks before that, and but that was for a desktop platform. And he mentioned in his in his Twitter feed that he'd be going to this one. So we have the news from that. Also as this painful year of processor design issues wines to a close we have the ultimate final last word on processor missed design. We teased. The biff forthcoming of this research a week or two ago. It has now been published, and it is amazing and comprehensive, and it's got some surprises, of course. Because a bunch of academics really wrestled this whole topic to the ground once and for all and there's some very good news. There's a work around vailable for anyone who's motherboard bios is not updated has not been updated. We'll probably never be updated. If they're concerned about not having the latest firmware for their own. Processor. We got way around that now, which it's actually probably very practical for server environments, which as we know is where the the danger is greatest in virtual environments where the chance of hosting hostile code is greater as we've been saying all year. Yeah. It's not good to have spectrum meltdown vulnerabilities. But for the typical end user, it's not the end of the world because if something's is already gotten into your system, it, you know, you sort of already lost that game. So anyway, we'll we'll talk about this really cool solution for that. We've got a forthcoming fire FOX breach alert feature that'll be joining fire, FOX browsers. We will cover the expected takeover of exposed Docker service offering servers which we again, we expected and it has happened. Also, we will note the recently announced next. Version or successor to the only just recently ratified HTTP slash to. We now know what HTTPS slash three will look like and be also I'm not I'm going to cover a little bit of what I will put it in the Aranda section B about this one dot one dot one dot one that we stumbled over on the fly last week when I was surprised by like recognize suddenly realizing wait a minute HDD P colon slash HDP, s colon slash slash one dot one dot one dot one was giving us an an extended validation secure connection and has like what how did that happen? So course, I know how and even John Graham coming dropped a piece of Email to me saying, hey, Steve, you know, if you're puzzled I can take it to you. By that time, I knew I just had to think about it a little bit more. Also, as I said, we'll have a chance to close the loop with some of our podcast listeners. Some a little bits of confusion that exist and some other points that are useful. And then we're going to take up this issue of the future of passwords as a consequence of this thoughtful article, which you had already encountered, and you can imagine I was bomb. Bartered buy it from every direction because and what's interesting is the very first response to Troyes posting was someone saying have you heard about squirrel anyway. So a lot of the dialogue in the conversation thread that ensued was about that. So, you know, I think a great podcast for our listeners, and I couldn't resist a picture of the week. Just because so what happened to send it to me? I thought it was fun. So. Yeah. Well, let us say, yes, I'm very excited, but we're going to take a little break right now for something. I'm just as excited about our sponsor. I love our sponsors, actually, it all seriousness. 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So last week was they as I mentioned at the top of the show November thirteenth and fourteenth was the the two day pony to own which is an annual. Well, actually, actually, it's probably more than that. Because it occurs typically. One right at curse sort of in concert with various security conferences, where people are are gathered together Trend Micro is in this case was behind this one offering cash and prizes during this competition for vulnerabilities and exploitation techniques against the listed devices. We talked about those a week or two ago, basically handsets a couple a couple I o t cameras and and so forth. Those didn't get on. Also, the apple watch is on the list. Nobody attacked does. They do the right up is fun because it sort of takes the sports announcer style, which I'll share with our listeners Trend Micro wrote of each day. They said the first day opponent own Tokyo twenty and eighteen has come to a close today. Saw some great action. An amazing research as we awarded two hundred and twenty-five thousand US dollars and forty eight master of pony points. We had six six exploits and purchased thirteen bugs in total. They say our day began with Floro acetate, which is that team of Cama, and Richard zoo, successfully exploiting that Yamei yummy. M I six handset via NFC using the touch to connect feature. They forced the phone to open the web browser and navigate to their specially crafted web page during the demonstration. We didn't even realize that action was occurring until it was too late. In other words, a user would have no chance to prevent this action from happening in the real world, the webpage exploited an out of bands right in web, simply to get code execution on the phone this earned them thirty thousand dollars and six master opponent points. Excuse me, fluoro- acetate the floor acetate dual returned this time targeting. The Samsung galaxy S nine they made quick work of it by using a heap. Overflow in the based band component. That's the the the the cellular radio component a heap. Overflow in the base band component to get code execution. They write base band attacks are especially concerning sin. Someone can choose not to join a wifi network, but they have no such control when connecting to base band, the worker earned them another fifty thousand dollars and fifteen more points towards master opponent next up Amat and Richard returned to the short distance category. This time they were targeting the iphone X or ten over WI fi. They used a pair of bugs. A jit. That's a just in time. Compilation a Jit vulnerability in the web browser followed by an out of bands right for the sandbox escape an escalation, okay. This is ten. That's the successful demonstration earned them sixty thousand dollars more and ten additional master opponent points. They said this ends the first day of competition with one hundred and forty thousand dollars and a commanding lead for the master opponent with thirty one points following that attempt the team from MWR labs combined three different bugs to successfully exploit the Samsung galaxy S nine over wifi. They forced the phone to a captive portal without any user interaction, then used an unsafe redirect and an unsafe application load to install their custom app. Although their first attempt failed. They nailed it on their second. Try to earn thirty thousand dollars and six more master opponent points. They said in our last entry of the day. Michael contra Contreras, made sure his first pony to own attempt was memorable. He wasted. No time in exploiting a type confusion in Java script in doing. So he earned himself twenty five thousand dollars and six master opponent points. We look forward to seeing him in future events. Nee wrote Excelsior then they start the second day. Our second day our second day began with the floor. Oh, acetate duo of a Matt and Richard targeting the iphone ten in the browser category. After a stellar first day, they kicked off day to in style by combining a Jit bug in Nebraska along with an out of bounds. Access to exfiltration data from the phone for their demonstration the data. They chose happen to be deleted picture, which certainly was a surprise to the per. Person in the picture. The research earned earned them fifty thousand dollars an eight more points towards master opponent next up MWR labs team of Georgy guests chev- fab e berkey and rob Miller also targeted the iphone ten in the browser category. Unfortunately, they couldn't get their exploit chain to work within the time allotted resulting in a failed attempt. However, they did have some great research, and we acquired rights Trend Micro the bugs through our normal. ZDI? That's that that Trend Micro zero day initiative program following that the Floro acetate team returned this time targeting the web browser on the Yama on the yummy. Yummy, yummy, alshon wrong. Show-me Thangmee Xiaomi m I six they continued their successful contest by using an integer overflow in the Java script engine to exfiltrated a picture from the phone. They earn themselves. Another twenty five thousand dollars and six master of Pohnpei points the floor. Oh, acetate team couldn't keep their momentum going throughout the entire competition as their last entry fizzled out they attempted to explore the base band who on the iphone ten but could not get their exploit working in the time. Allotted to clarify dill span is the radio, right? The seven radio, correct? Yeah. The the cellular radio, and we've often talked about how all of the attention is being focused up at the application processor where the apps run, but very little attention gets given to this whole. All separate processor to base band, which does all of the all of the cellular stuff, and it's believed to be riddled with bugs which have really been looked at yet. So so by offering prizes for exploits down. There were beginning to see those surface. So they said they said still five out of six successful. Demonstrations is pretty remarkable as speaking of the floor acetate team. They said we're glad to see these to team up and hope to see more from them in the future. Our final entry for this year's event saw the MWR labs team target the web browser on the Xiaomi m. I handset the team combined a download bug along with a silent app. Install to load their custom app and exfiltrated pictures. This are them another twenty five thousand dollars and six additional points toward master opponent. They write this closes out pony to own Tokyo for twenty eighteen with forty five points and two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. We're happy to announce the Floro acetate duo of a Matt Cama and Richard zoo have earned the title master opponent overall. They right. We Aurore we awarded three hundred twenty five thousand dollars over the two day. Contest. Purchasing eighteen zero day. Exploits onsite vendors have received the details of these bugs. And now have ninety days to produce security patches to address the bugs we reported once. Are made public. Stay tuned to this blog for more details about some of the best and most interesting bugs we saw this week. So, you know, this is this is a nice way to do this. You you produce meaningful prizes meaning money to incentivize talented, developers talented hackers to dig in and find these problems you that you as a as a third party in this case Trend Micro is a commercial entity. So they either, you know, they they get contributions from from others pooled the funds that they they have that they form this in a in a contest, the the hackers do the best they can in a competitive mode. So they both want the crown of master opponent. And they all certainly want. You know, not bad. To come away with two hundred and fifteen thousand dollars for a for a team. We don't know how long how long it took them to get these. But and then eighteen previously unknown mean like, no one knew these problems existed eighteen serious flaws, which you know, in mobile handsets, are then then responsibly disclosed to their vendors under the onus that ninety days from then these will go public and as a consequence everybody gets protected, so you know, what Floro acetate is. Floro acetate. No, it's bug poison. Ooh. Clever very clever, very clever, sodium, fluoride acetate or potassium fluorescent bugs don't like like it. Cool. Look it. He said, I bet you there's a reason they call themselves. Okay. So. Anyway, I just wanted to finish say compared to you know, the the tweets we've been covering recently from a couple of developers who are, you know, coming up with good beautifully engineered exploits that they're just dropping out onto the world saying, you know, here you go at this here. I mean, anybody who wants it can have it. I just I don't get why why they're not willing to, you know, operate in a responsible fashion, and you know, and make some money. I mean, ultimately that puts bread on the table. Okay. So a couple of weeks ago, we we'd knew that there were I think the number was seven seven previously unknown. Everybody was like, oh, you're gotta be kidding me. You know, spectra ish meltdown ish new problems that a research team had found at that point. That's all we knew we didn't have the the details. Now, we do this picture on this next page of the show notes is a is a tree diagram which shows the the consequence of a an app at an academic, methodical careful. Analysis of contemporary processor design, those red boxes are are demonstrated new attacks. The the dotted ones are were sort of theoretical maybe that they were not able to actually do but the red ones actually happened. I'm going to share the abstract and the beginning of the introduction of this. Because more than anybody else. These guys. They they I wish we had this a year ago because you know, things would be very different if we had this year ago. I I have to wonder what's going on with Intel because they felt like they were reactive. And and we know that there was some understand the bull. You know, CYA behavior with their PR people, and oh all all processors have these problems and so forth, you know. And you know, we've we've talked about that. Honestly, the fact that yes, many things have been done without a proper focus on security. What annoys me is that ultimately re- we rely on Intel to be the designers of secure hardware, and even now a year later as we're about to hear these problems have not been fixed. So the app store. Act of this paper, which which more perfectly frames this than I've seen anywhere else. Reads modern processor optimizations such as branch prediction. An out of order execution are crucial for performance recent research on transient execution attacks, including specter and meltdown, by the way, I should say transient execution tax. That's their term for the the umbrella that they've that they've created for for understanding these recent research on transient execution attacks, including specter and meltdown showed however that execution or branch. Miss prediction events may leave secret dependent traces in the CPU's, micro architectural state. This observation led to a proliferation of new specter, a meltdown attack variants and even more. Ad-hoc defenses, for example, microcode and software patches, they right, unfortunately, both the industry and academia are now focused on finding efficient defenses that mostly address only one specific variation or exploitation methodology. This is highly problematic as the state of the art provides only limited insight on residual attack surface and the completeness of the proposed defenses in this paper. We present a sound and extensible Sistema Tate system is aviation of transient execution attacks. Our system is aviation uncovers seven new transient execution attacks that have been overlooked and not been investigated. So. Far. This includes two new meltdown variants, which they named meltdown PK on Intel and meltdown Biard on Intel and AMD. It also includes five new spectre missed training strategies. We evaluate all seven attacks in proof of concept implementations on three major processor vendors, Intel AMD an arm. Our system is a systematise systematization does not only yield a complete picture of the attack surface. But also allows a systematic evaluation of defenses through this systematic evaluation. We discover that we can still mount transient execution attacks that are supposed to be mitigated by rolled out patches. Meaning. This stuff hasn't been fixed yet. So to get into it a little bit deeper in their introduction. They say processor performance over the last decades has continuously improved by shrinking processing technology and increasing clock frequencies, but physical limitations are already hindering. This approach to increase the performance benders shifted the focus to increasing the number of cores and optimizing the instruction pipeline modern processors have deep pipelines allowing operations to performed in to be performed in parallel in different pipeline stages or different units of the execution stage, many processors additionally have a mechanism which allows executing instructions not only in parallel, but even out of order these processors have a reordering element, which keeps track of all instructor. And commits them in order. In other words, there is no functional difference to regular in order execution. If they have a dependency on a previous instruction, which has not yet been executed and committed hence to keep the pipeline full at all times. It is essential to predict the control flow, data dependencies and possibly even the actual data. Now, I'll just pause and say from the idea of designing that just. It is just my boggling when you consider that you have interdependent instructions, which are which are themselves very complicated, which are each producing outcomes, which subsequent instructions may remain Manatt be dependent upon and you're basically wanting to run ahead as far as you can bef- while slower things are taking longer to execute or having to go fetch things that are not in what of three layers of cashes out of main memory the den to then get the result. And then that may cause a branch decision to be made which happened in your history. And then it's like, oh, we're going to have to unwind all of this because we guessed wrong or wait. We got a stall this because we're now we're waiting on a result from some. I just can't even imagine this, isn't hardware. Orwell harm firmware with the aid of microcode. But I mean, wow. So. Just you know, just reading that description of today's contemporary microprocessor for one thing that makes me feel like it's worth the money. You know, a few hundred dollars for that technology. Yeah. Good point. Whoa. So they said flushed instructions those whose results are not made visible to the architectural level dual due to rollback are called transient instructions on modern processors, virtually any instruction can raise a fault, for example, a page fault or a general protection fault. Like, you know, like like if an instruction has memory. That's been paged out. They say requiring a rollback already without prediction mechanisms processors, sometimes have to flush the pipeline, for example, upon interrupts with prediction mechanisms there are more situ. Nations when partial pipeline flushes are necessary, namely on any miss prediction, the pipeline flush reverts, any architectural effects of instructions ensuring functional correctness hence the instructions are Trent are executed transient Louis, I they are and then they vanish then they say, I e we call this transient execution while the architectural affects and results of transient instructions are discarded, micro architectural side effects remain beyond the transient execution. In other words, that's the point is that is that all of the focus has been on this like, you know, not looking at the man behind the curtain only looking at the instruction. Is being executed and making sure you're correct there. So correctness at this top level, we is what Intel has gotten right? But there there was an an ignoring of the consequences of the fact that that the man behind the curtain that was doing all of this was was ended up with the right in instructions having the proper affects. But there was the the underlying mechanism is so complicated. Now that it wasn't being rolled back. There was there were there was debris left in the what they called the micro architecture. Not the macro architecture is a so they say, this is the foundation of specter meltdown and foreshadow these attacks. Exploit transient execution and encode secrets in the micro architectural side effects, for example, in cash state to transmit them to the architectural level to an attacker the field of transient execution attacks emerged suddenly and grew rapidly leading to a situation where people are not aware of all variants and their implications. And that's this is the formal way of saying what I said earlier, which is you know, like everyone holy shit and ran around and quickly patched some stuff to like fix the obvious first things that people found, but it's until now to like today that we have a full mature understanding of what like the broader picture what really? This is all about. They said this is a parent from the confusing naming scheme that already led to an arguably wrong classification of at least one attack even more important this confusion leads to misconceptions and wrong assumptions for defenses many defenses, for example, focus exclusively on hindering exploitation of a specific covert channel instead of addressing the micro architectural root cause of the leakage other defenses critically rely on state of the art CPU features that have not yet. Been thoroughly evaluated from a transient security perspective. We also debunk implicit assumptions, including that AMD processors are immune to meltdown type affects or that. Instructions mitigate specter variant one on any CPU in this paper, we present a sound and extensible systematization. Of transient execution attacks specter meltdown for shadow and related attacks. Using our universal decision. Tree all known transient execution attacks were accurately classified through a universal and unambiguous naming scheme, and that's the picture at the top of this article that I that I put in there, and it's from their paper and the link to the PDF is here if anyone wants more the hierarchical and extensible nature of our classification methodology allows the easy identification of the residual attack surface leading to seven new transient execution attacks specter and meltdown variants that we describe in this work these seven new attacks have been overly. Looked and not yet investigated so far two of the attacks are meltdown. The meltdown be are exploiting amount doubt meltdown type affect on x eighty six bound on the x eighty six bound instruction on Intel and AMD and meltdown PK exploiting a meltdown type effect on memory protection keys on Intel the other five attacks are previously overlooked mistreating strategies for specter P H T and specter BT be attacks. We demonstrate all seven attacks. Impractical proof of concept attacks on vulnerable code patterns and evaluate them on processors of Intel arm and AMD. We also provide a systematization of the state of the art defences based on this. We systematically evaluate defenses with practical experiments and. Medical arguments to show which work, and which do not or cannot work. This systematic evaluation revealed that we can still mount transient execution attacks that are supposed to be mitigated by rolled out patches. Finally, we discuss how defenses can be designed to mitigate entire types of transient execution attacks. And that's the beginning of sixteen pages of all of the details. So anyway, I'm here we are. It's been a year of this. And it's really it's not surprising because this is not easy stuff. If this was simple. It wouldn't have wouldn't have taken what twenty years for it to for someone to finally say. I can see what's going on over in that other core is that what you meant earn tended. And of course, we know this this twenty eighteen has been the year of of recognizing that it's possible to leak across processors or across threads in a in a in a single processor now. And again, we've also said that I reiterated earlier in this podcast that it's not clear to me that as long as a browser cannot do this stuff, and there has been mitigation. Immediately added to our browsers. That's really the only place where an Atip ical end user has it is hosting code in their system. In some fashion that that you know, they have really no control over. You know, we're all downloading apps, and these days, certainly, the listeners to this podcast are a little more skeptical than we were thirteen years ago before this podcast began dissecting all of this. I double check where I'm down downloading from. I I try to find you know, if there's some download captain site for some Intel thing a driver, I need I try to go get it from Intel. I don't want to get it from download captain. So it's you know, we have a lot of control over our own machines. And as I've said, this is, you know, the the main concern, our cloud providers hosting virtually systems where multiple entities may be running code in the same platform, which is why a lot of this attention has gone to breaking out of sandboxes and breaking out of virtual machine 'bout boundaries. I mean, that's how these things have been applied. So so it's. It's ever been the case that that any of these problems affected end users and Leo as you, and I have often reminded ourselves in anyone within earshot. There's never been an instance of any of this in the wild. No like unli- unlike zero day exploits that were often talking about finding like oh crap you know, routers are being taken over by the hundreds of thousands or Docker is falling. No, never not once as any of this actually turned into an attack that anyone found, and it's because it's difficult to tell me if I'm wrong, but my guess and understanding about this is that all these attacks. Whether it's the hyper threading attack that just came out. Meltdown are specter. Our timing text like RoH hammer where you kind of can deduce. I mean, this is crazy that Zietman works. What the information in a content stream not because you can see into it. You're deducing it based on timing. Yes. There was a stutter in the execution of your code that was of a different stutter duration. That's. I mean, I don't blame. An honestly, I I know Intel this was theoretical before they even started doing speculative execution in nineteen Ninety-one somebody right paper. But it seems so far fetched that anybody could make this work. Now, the fact is once somebody does make it work if they can if they can write a proof of concept that can then be script. Kitty is. Yeah. It's conceivable that it could get out and somebody who is not in fact, capable of figuring out what the content of a stream is from stutters would be able to use it. But so far nobody's done that. I don't know. If that's because the researchers can this is all by the way, highly academic research. I think most of these guys really they're just trying to get a PHD. It's not I I would give these guys twelve brilliant. Why? But maybe they haven't given enough details that you could weaponize it, I I don't know why it hasn't leaked out. But it's incredibly hard to do at least initially. Yeah. My guess is this is sort of state actor level that this is where you would put this would be if you could arrange to get your code running on a Google server and get a Google private key. You know, that kind of thing where the value is really high for something really well protected, you know, and. And again, you know, it's not somebody who wants to run coin mining somewhere. Part of the reason for that though is this is not worth the effort because there's so many easy ways to do it to to to hack. Somebody's computer that why go to all that effort stacked and to have a reason to do it. And they here with all the doing. Yeah. And I do think though that this also I mean, this is one of the core lessons. The industry has learned is was perfectly framed by Bruce Schneier who said famously and we've often quoted this attacks never get worse. They only ever get better. And the and so if this wasn't addressed if the bad guys didn't know that it was being addressed, then they could roll up their sleeves, and you know, and there would have been an opening to weaponize this. And so I don't know. So I'm glad this has gotten the attention that it has. Yeah. Absolutely. With all that said, we have the problem, and it it bugs me, I mean. Got my little inspector tool. That is woefully now out of date. I need to people complained that I haven't gone back and and kept a current. But everyone also wants new spin, right? And so I've got to get squirrel finished. I, but but it it bugs me that. I've got machines where which Intel will never update I'm not not Intel the oh, the manufacturer will never update them. They're still useful. They're still workable, there's still fine. But I don't have updated bios for them. So I can't ever get all happy. Green on inspector. It's like sorry. You don't have the firmware. There's a solution. There is something open source. Available called the Intel microcode boot loader this is not something for. You know? Non techies. This is maybe I would imagine there will this will be of interest to our listeners, which is why I'm bringing it up, but it could be of serious interest to anybody who's running older hardware in a shared VM hosting cloud. That is concerned about these mitigations, and they are not available. Okay. So what this is for first of all we the reason a bios update can fix the microcode is that all Intel processors have firmware which can be loaded into them when they are powered up. So they come with a rom and the, but the Rahm is slower than the internal ram. So the Rahm is. Copied into the ram for maximum execution. Speed that contents of the ram can be patched or or changed? And so when a when a when a bios powers up, it contains patches for the processor that it's that it knows is on its motherboard, and it applies those patches on the fly in this case all of these updated bios contain updated microcode that is being reloaded into the processors firmware ram every time it powers up so the so the problem is it has to be an every time you power up solution the bios can do that. But so could something else that boots. First and then transfers control to another beautiful thing. I'm sure this is trustworthy, but what could possibly go. Okay. So so a developer has created a pre boot patch for Intel microcode, providing the latest Intel processor microcode for get this three hundred and ninety two Intel CPU's produced from nineteen ninety six to twenty eighteen so way, back this Intel microcode boot loader provides a workaround for the quote, my bios hasn't been updated for specter and meltdown and probably never will be problem. It dynamically updates the microcode every time the system is powered up this Intel microcode boot loader is based on and this. This is news based on Intel bios implementation tests, suite bits, BIT S bios. Implementation test suite put that in your Google? So that users no longer need to modify bios UEFA irom to stay protected from security vulnerabilities, bugs and Aratu. So I thought okay, wait, what is bits? So I went looking and I found an Intel link get this. The Intel bios implementation test suite provides a Buddha pre in this int-, I'm reading from Intel this is Intel's page, the Intel bios implementation, suite provides a boot -able pre OS environment for testing bios and in particular, the initialisation of Intel processors hardware and technologies bits can verify your bios against many Intel recommendations in addition bits includes Intel's official reference code as provided to bios manufacturers, which you can use to override your bios is hardware initialisation with a known good configuration. And then boot and OS so they say under who should use bits. They said. You might want to use bits. If you're a system or bios developer, and you want to validate that your system meets Intel's recommendations, your an OS or application developer building on technologies provided by Intel platforms, and you want to check if your system or one of your users systems has configured those technologies correctly. You're an advanced user or developer. And you want to check your bios to see if it can figures Intel hardware correctly, and if not to make a stronger case to your bios vendor to get it fixed or you need to poke hardware in a low level way. And you need a pre OS environment to work in to avoid OS interference. Anyway, I'm just stunned that this thing exists, and it's available bios bits dot org. B I O S B I T S dot org. Org is apparently something similar for AMD. Cool same thing. Yeah. Cool. They said they said bits consists of a modified grub to boot loader with many additional commands to probe and manipulate hardware configuration as well. As scripts using these commands to test and reconfigure hardware, bits supports scripting via python and includes python API's to access various low level functionality of the hardware platform. Oh, can you? Get in trouble now, including a CPI CPU and chipset registers P C N P C, I express you can write scripts to explore and test platform functionality using the full power of python in thirty two bit rings zero without any OS in the way and without recompense. Bits or writing custom see code CR python scripting guide for more information at. Zoe on top of this really got. I mean real foundation there is now a Intel microcode boot loader the guy has on the page that I've got a linked to. And I saw you brought it up during the podcast instructions format. A USB flash drive with the fat thirty two file system extract the archive to the USB flash drive and run extol. Install XY to make. Dible enter the bios you EFI assigned the USB flash drive as the first boot device and enable legacy boot mode. The boot loader will regularly update the microcode and load the OS. So it is a so the idea would be you. If you were an end user, or if you're somebody with a cloud system, you would get a little thumb drive set this up stick it into a USB slot and forget it or actually there motherboards now with internal USB. So you could just stick the little thumb drive on the motherboard on one of the internal USB sockets and just arrange to have it boot first. And then let it go ahead and continue to boot your. As it. Usually would that thing will will update your microcode where your motherboard wouldn't. And then execute your OS afterwards. So anyway, just wanted to put it on everybody's radar. I thought it was very cool. And this bits thing is, you know, it's making me think about ooh spent right? Oh, yeah. You're right now, you're going to write spin writing python. So. Time for break number two. Okay. Oh, look Mark Zuckerberg paid a visit. He came down my chimney gave me a portal. Smart hands free video calling what could possibly go wrong. 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On the in the show notes that where they just use example dot com, and it shows a little little pop up and that asked the question have an account on this site question Mark more than and then there's a number that would be filled in in in based on the real data here. More than five hundred thousand accounts, from example, domain were compromised in two thousand eighteen check fire FOX monitor to see if yours is at risk. And so there is a you can click on check five Archer monitor or you can dismiss it. Or you also have the option to turn off this breach notification system for all future. So. The user can take note of and dismiss the notification or can elect to immediately jump over to the fire FOX monitor site where they can confidentially enter their Email address and have Troy hunts. Excellent. Have I been pony site. As a service check for any exposure of the user's Email and anyone not wishing to receive these alerts on any site can simply choose never show fire. Fox monitor alerts by choosing. As I mentioned that dropdown aero on the notification, they Mozilla has said that this functionality will be gradually rolled out to fire FOX users over coming weeks. And we've not talked about Firefox monitor before that's at monitor dot fire, FOX dot com. And it looks like it offers its own front end to Troyes. Have I been pony facility which offer and Troy publishes a web API to facilitate such third party access making it a service. At monitored that fire, FOX dot com. Users can sign up with fire FOX monitor using their Email address to receive proactive notification if a breach occurs which does involve their Email address, which that's kind of cool Troy does not himself offer that service. So, but if you are a fire, FOX user are I guess, even if you're not you can use your get you go to monitor fire, FOX dot com. Give them any Email addresses. You want them to watch. And if a breach if breaches occur. They'll proactively check to see whether your Email address is among them and send you a note if so which is very cool. So a couple of weeks ago, we talked about. The unpacked Docker flaws, which would potentially open the door to anybody who found them and not surprisingly Juniper Networks threat labs recently discovered and reported on malware in the wild, which is searching for exactly that mis configured publicly exposed Docker services on the internet, which are which it is infecting with MO narrow minors. And we'll get Denny super detail. Excuse me. Of note that Docker by default. Sorry Docker by default is not on the internet. It is only using Unix sockets which is to say using the sockets interface in Unix to do within single machine. Communications not on the internet. So it's necessary for someone to explicitly bind the Docker API's to internet sockets in order to make them available. If done then those are two three seven five and two three seven six which which if a neighbor provide both unencrypted and unawed on authenticated access to the Docker API's. So the point is that maybe people doing this don't understand that the because the presumption was that this API would never be publicly exposed it is not authenticated by default. The presumption is if you're running on the same machine you inherently have access to the API's of that machine. But when bound to. Internet ports at if it's on the one interface facing the public everybody could get them. And it looks like many people have made that mistake. Once a new host is infected. It starts looking for other accessories hosts on both on the public internet, and on any internal networks, the host has access to so that, of course, will typically be a corporate intranet and the infected victim machine ends up servicing as an unwitting bridge from between the public internet and the internal private intranet. Juniper has gone through and decrypted all of the scripting that is going on. They described the infection Shane as largely living off the land. Because it leverages well known system provided utilities to spread its infection and carry out all its activities. They wrote that some of the system utilities that it uses our Docker w curl bash IP route to mass can apt get yum up-to-date pacman, deep package query system d and so forth, all which are familiar names to people who use Unix or Lennox machines. Juniper has dissect it and described the operation of the malware in detail and noted that it downloads a stock version of the Monteiro. Minor bash script it runs mo- narrow oceans Monroe. Minor bash script, which is hosted on Pastebin and executes it. And then once that's done. It begins scanning all available networks for any port. Two three seven five two three seven six when it finds any it dumps it to a local text file and that contains the list of IP addresses, which then proceeds to infect so anyway, again, what we're seeing is if something can be infected on the public internet like this. It's it's not making people lots of money, but it's free after they set this up and turn it loose. So what happens? I mentioned at the top of the show that we had recently ratified HTTP slash to for years. We've been at HTTPS slash one point one that's often the protocol, which is is recognized when a server responds to a T to A H T T P query, it'll send back an okay two hundred. Okay. And also ATP slash one point one one point are now HTTP slash two is where we are. And as a consequence of some recent communications in among the IEP T F, the decision has been made and consensus reached about HTTP slash three, and it will use sort of dramatically actually UDP. Not TCP as underlying what? Yes, nothing not TCP as its underlying transport. Mark Nottingham who's the chair for both the HTTP working group and the quick Q U? I C working group for the I E T F proposed renaming what is now known as HTTP over quick Hugh UIC to HTTP slash three. And the proposal appears to have been broadly accepted HTTPS slash three will have quick as an essential integral feature such that h TDP slash three will always use quick Q UIC as its network protocol. Okay. So let's back up here. A big change. That's a huge huge reason. I thought they use TCP is for reliability right because you have Cinemax peck at UDPS's for streaming because you don't have to have the AC you just keep streaming. Right. It was it was reliability in the sense of not of remembered that caring if you got it, basically. Right. The internet exactly light like you. And I have this conversation going over UDP because it is lighter weight, and if a packet doesn't arrive, it only is a tiny bit of sound worth of packet that was lost and the Kodak at the receiving end is smart enough to just sort of repeat what had already had and fill the missing time. And if the loss is bigger than people will hear kind of a twang like we've often in the older days heard from cell phone. But in general, the idea being that UDP is unreliable. Well, you could build reliability on top of UDP if you're smart, okay? So let's back up a bit as we know traditional secure connections over the internet start with a DNS look up to map, the domain name to the internet address originally that was I p four an increasingly it's Peavy six but address look up is typically cashed, and it's not really about connections. So that's out of scope for this. I have a picture here in the show notes of how a how a TC secure T L S connection is currently set up on the internet. Once we have an IP address multiple packets are sent back and forth to first establish a TCP connection. Sequence numbers are exchanged an IP level features are negotiated between the end points. So we know there's the famous TCP sin where the client the connection initiator sends its sequence number that is a a random thirty two bit number from which it will number all bites that it then subsequently sends the server responds with an act for the clients sin and its own sin in one combined packet with two of those bit flags sent in the TCP header, so that's called the cynic packet. And so upon the client receiving it. They each have each other sequence number then the client responds with its act to knowledge the servers sin and at that. Point. The TCP connection is said to be open the client, then typically like in this case in a in a. A web browser scenario say wants to establish a. It wants to go from from TCP connection to a T L S connection and wants to establish security. So it sends a client Hello packet, which contains a cryptographic nonce, which it has chosen along with a list of all the cipher suites for the version of T L S that it supports the server receives the client. Hello, it looks through its prioritized list of of of cipher suites in the order. It would like to use them for the first one, which is in the client's list that so it uses one that it that it likes and supports it also chooses its cryptographic material. It's not and returns that in a packet with multiple flags a server. Hello they certificate. Oh, I forgot the clients. Hello all. Also specifies in the SNI the server name indicator extension to the client. Hello packet the name of the service. It wants that allows multiple home server to rummage around in its certificates and find the one that the client wants and to return the certificate to assert its identity to the client. So it sends a certificate the the server Hello. Back to the client, which contains it's crypto information. So now they've both exchange. Crypto information they've agreed upon a cryptographic protocol the client needs to respond with its with an knowledge -ment of the cipher spec that the server chose in with a so-called change cypher spec. Message to say, okay, I accept what you've returned. I am changing over to that cipher the server needs to do the same thing needs to acknowledge. The client's message and say everything from now on is under the new cipher that we've agreed on that. So they both bring their ciphers up using the nonsense that they've exchange which a Li allow them to negotiate a secure secret key under which they then encrypt all data. Over not only the first layers TCP the second layers T L S. Now, the tunnel is up and they can exchange application data with authentication and secrecy who. Quick, Hugh, you I see such short acronym for so much stuff. Well, quick does that in one packet? That's not quick. That's does that that the old school. So believe it or not quick which stands for quick UDP internet connections. Q U. I see is able under the proper conditions and preconditions to achieve the same with a single packet from the client to the server everything bundled up into one packet so for this. We have Google thank recall that Google's earlier speedy S P D Y technology also proved itself worthy and formed the basis of HTTP slash two. Which is now become an ETF standard in the process of getting fully supported HTTP over quick is a which is now. Now, the IEP Tf is said that will be HTTPS slash three. Is a rewrite of the HTTP protocol that uses Google's quick instead of TCP as its base quick is Google's complete rewrite and rethink of that entire protocol stack which I just went through which combines everything TCP IP TCP U D T L S and H T T P slash two into a single amalgam. So Google has proposed that quick might eventually replace both TCP, and you d as the new protocol of choice for moving binary data across the internet tests have demonstrated that quick is both faster and more secure. Because it also is an encrypted by default system. That is there is no non. Cryptic version, and it uses the just recently ratified. T LS version one point three protocol built in. So it was proposed as a draft standard by at the I E T F in two thousand fifteen the version of HTTP over quick which was a rewrite of HDP on top of quick instead of on top of TCP was proposed a year later in July of twenty sixteen. So these things take time here we are nearly two and a half years later. And it's now looks like it's going to become the next big standard. When we're ready to move away from ATP slash to the support for HTTP over quick that is this next generation was added to chrome twenty nine and opera sixteen. It's also supported in the light speed web servers and Facebook has started adopting the technology. So it's looks like it's going to happen. And essentially, you know, the. As we know anyone who's looked at like, the developer console of their browser and brought up any contemporary web page knows that stuff is coming from all over Helen gone. I mean, it is just you know, today's web pages are nuts with where they're pulling all of their assets. Every one of those requires a negotiation with a different domain and remote server bringing up TCP bringing up T L S, and then finally able to make the query in order to get going. What this does again, given some cashed agreements among end points and quick manages all of that it allows a single packet to be sent to a service in order to request an asset and have that asset returned. So we're talking about once we get this. Once both ends have. Made the move over significantly quicker loading web pages, which of course, is why Google was behind this from the beginning as they would like everything to be faster, and you know, who wouldn't. Last week as I mentioned to the top of the show. Also, we went we talked about the cool new app from cloudflare for an Android devices and HTTPS colon slash slash one point one point one point one or one dot one dot one dot one. And I stumbled over my recognition during the podcast that it was a secure connection knows like what? So my first eroneous assumption was that well, if it's a secure connection it has to have a certificate, and if it has a certificate, then dot one main it has to be a domain name. And of course, that was wrong because we all how many times have we put HTTP Kalish lash one nine two dot one six eight dot zero dot one or dot one dot one or something into our browser in order to access our router. As we know dotted numbers dotted clod numbers are addresses. They're not domain names, and they're not legal for domain names. So one cannot be domain name. It is the it has to be part of a dotted quad. This John Cummings Email, I probably send it to you too. Reviewing happy to tell you more in one one one one in the IP address of the site. And yes, we have an SSL certificate for an IP address. That's the key. Right. You can get one for an address. Well, yes. And the secret is. Well, they have friends and it's the sand field the. The the we've talked about this extension to certificates often that's the server alternative name and an end, for example. You know, like GRC's certificate has GRC dot com. And I don't know what WWW dot GRC dot com. May I don't think it has star might have GRC WWL GRC tech dot com. Anyway, the point is multiple alternative names for the same service. And it turns out there, I p addresses are legal. So you can put an IP address in the sand field. Let's encrypt will not allow that. And I had forgotten. If I never knew it that it was possible to put an IP address in there. But it is. So the answer to this mystery is that when we went to look at it that wasn't the name of the certificate. The name was star dot cloudflare, or whatever it was dot something or other dot com, and this was a digital certificate, and they arrange to have one dot one dot one dot one placed into this in Indian numerous. Of alternative names in that certificate, thus. They're able to offer a T L S connection for their stuff. So very cool and mystery solved and I wanted to to close the loop on that. Christian alexandrov? On the nineteenth tweeted at S G G R C one short spin right testimonial. He said if an HD hard disk drive wants to die. It will die my regular use of spin right on a drive gave me a lot of warning. So I had the time to save all my data, which I care about one more lesson for people regular use of spin right warns you when something is going to happen anyway Christian. Thank you for that. And I do I will reiterate that. As you know, we know that drives have that smart data. The the self monitoring analysis and reporting tool SMART, the problem is it's only meaningful when the drive is being asked to do something. If you look at the smart data, while the drive sort of I'd Ling maybe there some information there, but it doesn't really tell you what's going to happen. When you ask the drive to do some work if you make it sweat. That's when things happen and an it's years of having that in like what now fourteen years of that being available because I got I added that in spin, right? Six has demonstrated that when you're running spin, right? If the drive is in trouble, you'll start seeing red in the in the health bars that smart is reporting. Essentially if running spin right pushes, the they drives health down that gives the drive is still running everything is still fine. But a healthy drive won't have. It's health pushed down just by asking it to do what it was born to do. So it really does provide a sort of an analog sense for how much left there is in this drive at as Christian says if you use spin right and take a look at that smart data after you know, after the drive's been running for a while underspin, right? If everything is still happy in the green euro K. At least the drive is not saying boy, I happen to work here in order to just read some data, which was what I was supposed to be able to do easily. That's Christian says a nice early warning system for telling you, maybe it's time to make sure you have a current backup. Terry. Daniel tweeted at s g R C since squirrel tokens are linked to to website name is there. A solution in squirrel for the problem that occurs when a web property changes its name he says for example United to continental or photo to Kodak gallery. Great question, Terry. And it's one that we've talked about in the squirrel forum and have a solution for it is the case that that the all of the security that squirrel offers which is far as we know is absolute that is I I haven't talked about it except in passing. We'll get around to it here in the future. I'm once I've aim I'm able to stop teasing people with you know, this at actually let people play with it or have it more widely available to play with. The as far as we know it is unspeakable. I mean, really we solve that problem. And but that requires a tight binding between your identity, and the domain name or that absolute unspools ability guarantee would be broken. But there is the ability to have a. An entity who has had to move it. Self to a different domain to bring squirrel users from the old domain to the new domain. So the idea would be if you if if United purchased continental the I what would happen would be if a squirrel user then logged into United. United server would notice that. Oh, someone's trying to log in with squirrel. But we don't recognize them. They would then what the result of that would be a page that says hi there. You're trying to log in here with squirrel, but you might be a continental user try again. And so that second page would be the squirrel at the continental domain which United purchased. And so the idea is that one last authentication at the domain that's being left. That's being abandoned that being moved from allows United to identify the user under both the United dot com and continental dot com. Domains because after all the person just tried to use scroll at United so United has their squirrel identity there that allows them to to know who they were under the continental domain and essentially migrate them without the without the user having to do anything except just try to log in under the old, domain and. It's able to happen automatically or go to continental dot com, which is still up then it's able to to move them over. So great question. Terry and squirrel does have a solution for that. Which is a little bit of a of a double step, but only has to happen once and then you're known under the new domain, John. Baxter says hi, Steve do you have any information on how long external SSD devices can sustain their contents while not plugged into power? Specifically, the Samsun T five clearly they aren't permanent as the capacitors have to be leaking charge at some rate. Two weeks seems to be okay. I haven't found information at Samsung or in reviews, he says at two weeks, I could be running through spares way too fast. But I think I would have seen complaints one solution. Might be to store the devices plugged in on power. But at some point the better choice would seem to be spinning drives. Okay. So there are a couple misconceptions here. I've referred to. I referred to SSD's as having electrons stranded on a little. Little pad essentially, that's different from a capacitor de ram is a capacitor which is leaking charge very quickly. So we know that it's surprisingly slow. So that for example, if you spray it with freon, you can reduce the the leakage of the D Rams capacitors long enough to move it into a different piece of hardware sometimes and then bring back to life and not have lost a lot of the D. Rams data. SST's SSD's are not capacitors. They are a an isolated gate technology where a where there there is some leakage from electron tunneling, but it is really really low. Now, we've talked in the past about how for example, there is. There is a temperature sensitivity the hotter. They are the faster they leak, but it is in the years not in. We may not in weeks camera flash is not getting refreshed, and it's wreck for hours days, weeks, months and years. Yes. As far as I can tell if I took a picture and leave it on an ST card. It's there a year or two later. Yes. We're and so it's the same basically the same kind of technology, right? Yes. It is the same technology and for what it's worth, Leo. If your refrigerator has any space available. I would but it's filled with. Palm pilot pilot. Yes. So anyway, so there is a temperature sensitive leakage. So actually, not having them plugged in would be better than having them plugged in colder. Yes, the colder. They are the less the less quickly this stranded charges would tend to bleed off. But it is in years. And what an what you really need to do is like every year run spin right on the could I because it is only by reading and rewriting an SSD that it's charges are refilled. That's the that's the thing that recharge is the SSD's storage over time. And you know, what's happened? Of course is that as as we've pushed density higher. They those SSD cells that used to be SLC single. Level cell now. Now, they are m LC or TLC MLC was four levels of charge and TLC is eight levels of charge. So each bit cell now stores three bits, which means that it's more important that you distinguish though the exact amount of charge in the cell than ever before. That is unfortunately, a trade off has been made for density over reliability, which is for example, why I can't get him anymore. But the the SSD's that the GRC server is running on our S L C SSD's because even then they're enraged six because you know, I'm belt and suspenders and spin right. In order to to have the greatest level of reliability. But anyway, not to worry and do keep them cool. If you need if you really are worried and stick him in the fridge that won't hurt them, and it will reduce the rate at which they charge is leaking from offline SSD. James who tweeted listening to this week's episode of security now could you produce an app specific public key that could be given to the Botts. Oh, he referring to our discussion about giving having having a used, squirrel. If it needed to log into a site on your behalf could be given to Botts that use your squirrel identity and have the main protocol authorized the use of that key for specific app. When you're connected to an authenticated session. You could then manage on a per site basis the apps that have thority to use your identity on that site much. The same way we use apps specific passwords on Google or other services, you could then prune your app specific keys in the squirrel app with any revocations being communicated to the site via the protocol and signed with your master. Sanity to authorize the revocation. Okay. So what he's saying essentially is could you have different could you authorize different squirrel identity, which would be the bots to log in on your behalf at a site in the answer is something we called managed shared access, and it is what I brought online Saturday three days ago. That's this thing that I've been working on for the last ninety days. We had a definition of it in mind. I we had never create an an implementation that's what I wrote. I wrote a whole new server and an an API to to essentially designed to support that the the problem is right now in the world where where identity is. I was gonna say loosely bound to people, but really not. Bound to people at all because it's not even a retina or a fingerprint or your face. It's just your username and password. People commonly shared their username and password their user names and passwords with other for example, family members when they need to share. They want to grant access to a website like Netflix, for example, or mom and dad both know the username and password for the Bank well in a world where which we are arguably moving toward where identity is more tightly bound because we've got biometrics of one four more nother or something like squirrel, which is your is is a proxy for you. That's inherently hostile to sharing your identity. You don't wanna share your squirrel identity with anyone because it doesn't just represent you at one site. It represents you everywhere that's the benefit and the power, but will. But with that comes this problem that we're used to just giving away user names and passwords when we want to share. So what we need is. We need services like services that support squirrel to have as an option not necessarily. But as an option the ability to allow multiple squirrel identities to all share an account, and we have that it's a well-defined spec. Everybody who's listening to this? We'll be able to play with that the guys in the newsgroup the squirrel newsgroups since. Have been playing with it. And it's very cool. It is no no decrease in security, and it provides a means for. Sort of an owner of the account to invite others to use their squirrel identities there, and to curate who has what level of access and to eliminate people after they've wandered off or you no longer want to share your access. So manage shared access is it's in the API it exists and James you foresaw, essentially a need that that we did too. And it's part of the solution. And as I've said before, and I'll be talking about it again in a minute. When we talk about what Troy hunt was saying, I believe every problem has been solved other solutions have not solved every problem. I think every problem has been solved and. You know, it's why. I think it has a chance to succeed. We'll see I'm happy to let the world judge that. Yoder forty four said Steve an s n six eighty nine you focused on bit locker on SSD's that of course was last week's podcast, self decrypt. Ing self decrypt SSD's. He's do the same concerns. Apply to bit lager on spinning drives to which I would answer the same concerns. Absolutely. What we don't have is research for whether spinning drives have been as negligent, frankly, as at least, we know Samsung. And was course there. You know, those the two brands of SSD's that those guys, you know, dissect did, you know, it's not until you look, unfortunately that we know what's going on underneath the covers because these guys looked we realized oh crap. This is not providing actual security, which is one of the reasons why it's a problem that these things are black boxes to us. These guys went to great lengths to to look inside. So I would say yes until we know definitively that a drive has implemented its encryption properly. I can't you cannot trust to drive you have to revert to software solutions. And CPA ch- which drives just to recap too, right? Well, we don't know of any that do it. Right. But we're, but we're a suit. Yeah. But we're assuming that Samsung, was course, air doesn't feel like it was coarser crucial. Yes. Samsung and crucial up have updated. Actually, I think I saw that the three hundred that's the crucial Dr had not yet been updated. But when they update their firmware, we hope they do. So in a way that would satisfy these academics who looked into them and found them wanting. But what we really need is. Because this is not like, you know, implementing this correctly. That's not proprietary. It's not something that the that the drive is like needs to keep secret from everybody else. We ought to have. And the the the the. Trust the trusted platform computing group ought to provide an open source reference forty here's how you implement this overly complex security standard, which we defined so just code this into firmware and do it. And if we knew that that had been done, then good, it'd be like the reason we trusted true crypt and we trust. Vera crypt is. It's open source, and it's been vetted multiple times. So we know what it does drives. We're just as we've been assuming. Oh, you know, they say, it's it's hardware. So it must be better. No now, we know that we know that research put the lie to that assumption. The research was Samsung crucial didn't do it. Right and companies responded by patches, but I'm reading Samsung support page says for non portable SST's like the Samsung eve, yo drives that are very widely used as fact, it's my number one choice. Yes. Yes. We recommend in. Stalling krypton software. They did up date s the portable S T E S T five our previous guy was talking about in the t three and I use those. But I have to reinstall the portable SSD activation software, and then update the firmware. And if you have a t one when you have to contact the Samsung service center, so the portable SSD's are with maybe some effort made to secure, but they have that doesn't look like they have any plans for making the most common SDS and use the views. You know? You know security, so you should use the answer is you should use VERA crypt. Yes. Yes. Or, you know bit locker when you tell it not to use hardware which locker not to do that. Yeah. Okay. C H said Steve windows seven bit locker is unaffected by the hardware. Encryption problem because windows seven bit locker doesn't support leveraging hardware and Christian in the first place. So VERA crypt is not the only recourse there. Microsoft updates right? Because now they know there's a flaw, and they should just lock implementations to do suffer. Yes. They ought to just back off of. Yes. That's exactly right. I think that makes a lot more sense. I'm going to skip one because it's overly long and not necessary McCall. Faulk vid. He said Ari SSD encryption is the key cannot be derived from the password. He says the password must be used to unlock the key. Otherwise, it would be impossible to ever change the password, and it would be impossible to start using a password without wiping the entire drive. He says I might have misunderstood your career your description, so he says backslash rant meaning closing rant. He says if that's the case, I'm sorry. But I would love to clarification. So the clarification is there's an additional what we would call a level of indirection the so the the the key that you are using is not the one that the it increase the drive. That one is that one is the drives master key, which never changes. So the way you change your password. Is you give it the old password, which is used to to d- crypt? The key not unlock it to decripit. And now, it's like holding its breath, and it's decrypted. Now, you give it the new password. And the that decrypted key is then Rian crypt under the new password. So that's how you perform a change of password. Without losing the contents of the drive is you have both Eero. You always want the old password to prove your you. And then the new password so that that's that's a similar sort of a straddle kind of like what what squirrel does from one. The main to another is you d crypt under the old password, and then immediately re in crypt under the new password. And that way, you're able to make a change. Tinson says hi, Stephen the past you advocated, using windows defender plus Mel wear bites with the new win defender sandbox. Are you suggesting? No Mel where bytes is needed is needed slash is a vector for problems. Or is this an omission? Thank you for your continued, great work, and when I've suggested malware bytes, it's only to use it transient as a scanner never to install it. So that's the source of the confusion is I do like, malware bytes, and I have used it sometimes to scan a system just as an additional check. When something seemed a little weird just to make sure nothing with gotten getting away from windows. So I use it only to scan never to install it permanently. And I think you know, as we've been saying now, you and island Leo for awhile. I think windows defender is like the answer for this. And last break, and then we will look at Troy hunt on passwords for our show today. Brought to you by ohi, Mark good to see you. Good view of more. Actually, kind of nice. It's doing a photo frame thing. You know, an interesting thing though, I had to activate my. Facebook account to log in. But then I immediately deactivated seems to still work. Well, yeah. Except. That makes me wonder what deactivation really means. Yeah. All these photos are still available from my Facebook account. Even though it slow. Oh, the activated, right? 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So just to re just to recap before I share what Troy said three days ago Saturday afternoon. I put what I've been working on for the past three months online to be pounded on and commented. Upon by our wonderful group of testers techies and developers over in GRC's, squirrel newsgroup so far since then a fixed a few bugs, and I have a short to do list of features to add or tweak. This was an important piece of work since it defined and has now proven a and and verified that I got it. Right. A minimal and workable generic server squirrel service provider API, which allows a web server to query an external squirrel provider for all of the sites. Squirrel support. So that so it creates an well-defined boundary. The provider still needs to be present on the web servers domain, but this allows for a clean externalisation and well-defined boundary between squirrels authentication functions and an existing website fifteen days ago on November fifth while I was working on this. And also I didn't respond to it until come up for air Troy hunt. Woo as we know is the have I been pony guy. And he's a prolific writer about security, and and he knows what he's talking about posted an article, which he titled here's why. And he says bracket insert thing here close bracket is not a password killer, and I have a link in case anyone's interests. But I'm sure if you put here's why insert thing here is not a password killer into Google, it'll find it. So he's so. Is what Troy wrote three day these days? I get a lot of messages from people on security related things often it's related to data breaches or sloppy behavior. On behalf of some online service playing fast and loose with HTTPS or passwords or some other easily observable security posture, but on a fairly regular basis. I get an Email from someone which effectively boils down to this quote. Hey, have you seen bracket insert saying here question, Mark? It's totally going to kill passwords. Exclamation point. Enjoy says, no it's not and to save myself from repeating the same message over and over again, I want to articulate precisely why passwords have a lion. A lot of life left in them yet. But firstly let me provide a high level overview. The sort of product I'm talking about an I'll begin with recognizing the problem. It's trying to solve people suck at passwords. I know massive shock right base. Suck at making genuinely strong ones. They suck at making unique ones, and they suck at handling them in a secure fashion. This leads to everything from simple account takeover. Someone else now controls their EBay or their Spotify or whatever to financial damages goods or services bought or sold under their identity to full data breaches, many of these occurred due to abdomens reusing credentials. There is no escaping. The fact that passwords remain high risk security propositions for the vast majority of people part of the solution to this is to give people to controls to do password based authentication better, for example, by using a password manager and enabling to. To factor authentication, but others believe that passwords themselves have to go completely to solve the problem, which brings us to proposed alternatives. He says I don't want to single out any one product out there because the peace. I'm writing is bigger than that. So let's talk about patterns instead, I'm referring to password lists solutions that involves things like QR codes pictorial representations third party mobile apps, dedicated hardware devices or magic links sent via Email, I'm sure there are others. But for the purposes of this post any pattern that doesn't involve entering a username and password into a couple of input fields is in scope to their credit. Some of these solutions are genuinely very good technically, very good. But what proponents of them? Seem to regularly miss is that technically isn't enough despite their respective merits. Every one of these solutions has a massive shortcoming that severely limits their viability, and it's something they simply can't compete with despite its many flaws. The one thing that the humble password has going for it over technically superior alternatives. Is that everyone understands how to use it period? Everyone period. Yeah. Not how to use it securely or well, but the Houston. Yes, it's the it is literally the definition of the lowest common air, and he says this is where we need to recognize that decisions around things like off scheme. Teams go well beyond technology, merits alone. Arguably the same could be said about any security control. And I've made the point many times he writes before that these things need to be looked at from very balanced, viewpoint. There are merits and there are deficiencies and unless you can recognize both regardless of how much you agree with them. It's going to be hard to arrive at the best outcome. He says let me put this in perspective assume you're tasked with building a new system, which has a requirement for registration and subsequently authentication. You go to the marketing manager and say, hey, there's this great product called and has, you know, Barack brackets insert thing here that replaces passwords, and all you have to do is signed to side in is dot dot dot. And you've already lost the argument because the foremost thing on the marketing managers mind is reducing friction their number one priority is to get people signing up to the service in using it. Because ultimately, that's what generates revenue or increases brand awareness or customer loyalty or a cheese, whatever the objective was for creating the service in the first place as soon as you ask people to start doing some. Something. They're not familiar with the risk of them. Simply not going through with it amplifies. And defeats the whole point of having the service in the first place. And he goes on and I and it's long, but and I don't want to skip anything. But I everyone should have the point of what he's talking about. I just saw him saying right here. What I often find. When I had the discussions is a myopic focus on technical merits. I'll give you an example from from earlier last year where someone reached out and a spouse the virtues of the solution vade built they and by should mentioned. I've never spoken to Troy wasn't me. Because I'm you know, squirrels not out yet. He says they were emphatic that passwords were no longer required due to the merits of bracket insert thing here, and we're frustrated that the companies they were approaching weren't entertaining. The idea of using their product, I replied and explained pretty much what's outlined above the conversation is going to get shut down as soon as soon as you start asking companies to impose friction on their users. But try as I might they simply couldn't. Get the message. What barrier? There's no barrier. They went on to say that companies not willing to embrace products like this and educate their users about alternative off. The schemes are the real problem and that they should adjust their behavior accordingly says I countered with what remains appoint. That's very hard to argue against. If your product is so awesome. Have you stopped to consider? Why no one is using it. Now in fairness, it may not be precisely no one, but in this case, and so many other of the insert things here. I'd never seen them in use before. And I do tend to get around the internet a bit. Maybe they're used in very niche corners of the web the point is that none of these products are exactly taking the industry by storm. And there's a very simple reason for that. There's a fundamental usability problem. This particular discussion ended when they replied with this. I think it has only negatively the doesn't allow positiveness to excel. He says. I'm negative about stuff. That's no good. Yes. He says I dropped out of the discussion at that point. Anyway, he says this is why passwords aren't going anywhere in the future. And why insert thing here isn't going to kill them. No amount of focusing on. How bad passwords are or how many accounts have been breached or what it costs would people can't access? Their accounts is going to change that nor will the technical prowess of insert thing here change the discussion because it simply can't compete with passwords on that one metric organizations are so focused focused on usability. Sure. There'll be edged cases. And certainly there remain scenarios where higher friction can be justified. Do either the nature of the. Asset being protected or the demographic of the audience, but you're not going to see your everyday ecommerce show, social media or even banking sites changing on mass. Now, one more thing he says if I don't mention biometrics and web off bell continually show up in the comments anyway. And so he talks about them, and how there are some emerging standards. But he acknowledges there many years out yet he said anyway, he says so fee concludes. This is why insert thing here is not a password killer and why for the foreseeable future. We are just going to have to continue getting better at the one authentication scheme that everyone knows how to use passwords now. So that's what he said. And I just wanted to address it head on. I did get a kick. The same words about squirrel. I mean, it's not out yet. So it's not like anybody could have adopted. Correct. The place, squirrel. However. You've got that going for you. Yes. Our picture of the week shows the back of a Jeep with an era Zona registered license plate s q r l. I don't know who that is. But Bravo, squirrel. He says I will admit that. I got a kick out of the fact that the very first reply posted Detroit's article was from David a Leedom fifteen days ago. Who's just wrote has anyone looked at squirrel, and yes, and there was an pretty much. I guess maybe I don't know half of the dialogue. There was a lot of dialogue where? People going back and forth. And actually, some online names, I recognized from GRC, squirrel, newsgroup and Twitter were present. The point is I think skepticism is a healthy trait. And it doesn't offend or annoy me in the slightest. But what I have also observed is that anyone who has actually seen squirrel and experienced it is immediately in and irrevocably converted into a true believer. I think that what confuses people is how patient I am. I deeply believe in the truism that we only get one chance to make a first impression. So I'm working as hard as I can day and night. So that everyone's first impression will be all that it can and should be when I first talked about this on security now there were a bunch of people who didn't pay close attention who. Create a blog posts that attacked it not because there is anything wrong with it. But just because they didn't know what it was or sort of like this is like well are. So anyway, a few points to Troy's article first of all as we know it's not a product. I think that's probably why it has a chance to succeed. It isn't something you have to subscribe to or pay for or or anybody's making any money from at which frankly boggles the minds of of friends who I talked to about it. What I say, no, it's it's free. It's no I'm just doing this because someone has to so we'll have it. So as we know it's a solution and a protocol which by design. No one owns I have simply built an implementation of a squirrel client, and now several implementations of squirrel servers that was done to work out. All the details and the edge cases, if I were to do it again. I would likely have built my squirrelled client as a web extension since squirrel really should be integrated into every web browser someday. If it succeeds it will be but back, then web extensions didn't really exist, and they weren't unified when I began this, and there is a web extension in the works by someone else for fire, FOX and chrome. An an as for one owning it. There is also a working Android client over on get hub, whose squirrel implementation is currently available in Arabic. Chinese Dutch English French German, Hebrew, Japanese, Norwegian, Russian Spanish and Swedish it working great. There's a native client coming for links. And there's a working client for us. Get hub also has a crypto library for squirrel that people can use to to build into their own apps. And there are server implementations for Java and PHP in the works and a note that all of these other people are not nuts. They're not crazy. They have one thing in common, which is which is what for the moment separates them from the rest of the world. They have seen squirrel work firsthand. And they immediately realized what it means. And I know I'm teasing everyone. But. This has been a passion of mine for years. I'm beginning to get excited about it. Because it won't be long now until everyone will have the chance to play with it for themselves and see and judge what this might mean. And as for replacing what we have now, squirrel is quite happy to coexist alongside user names and passwords to simply be there as an option and benefit offered by websites who choose to offer it, and you know, like at any website, if someone is a squirrel user having created a squirrel identity and wishes to associate their squirrel identity for that site with their existing identity at a website they can easily do. So the demos that I have online which everyone who's listening to this will be. Playing with before long allows you to experience that you can use a username and log in using password to create an account at this demo site. And then it says, oh, you don't have your squirrel identity associated, and so you can do that. And then you log in with squirrel. So this is all been designed to to to allow squirrel adoption to occur incrementally. And and for example, I use this a longtime ago, but it still holds how many times have you read someone's blog, and you and you thought oh, I have something to add to that. And so you go to click on you know, reply in the first thing and asks you to do is create an account. What's your Email address? And you look at you think oh, forget it. No, I'm not not one more place on the internet. It's not worth it. Well, there's a perfect example of where friction account creation and log in friction authentication friction is a limiting factor. Those site for those sites have squirrel means you don't need to do anything except except click on the log in with squirrel, and you are now uniquely identified at that site now in forever never having to do anything else. So my point is I believe there are places where account creation friction matters enough that adding it which is easy to do will be enough. And and what will happen is people incrementally begin to get used to it? And I mean what you ask yourself. Would you would you experience as wait a minute? What just happened? This is secure and the answer is. Yes, you know. There's no more like user names and passwords being breached and lost. And and getting out in the wild. Because squirrel doesn't give web servers any secrets. They have to keep there's nothing that they have to do. So it really is a completely different solution. So anyway, I agree with Troy one hundred percent that nothing yet has been good enough to supplant user names and passwords, and that they are here used aims of passwords because they've always been and I also agree that any real meaningful. Change takes time. We all know about a nurse. That's the lesson. We're learning on this podcast. All the time. You know, I- Peavy six what's how many decades old is that? And it's still trying to happen and T L S one point. Uh-huh. Twenty years old, and it's only now beginning to get it self deprecated. So anyway, I guess my main point is that until and unless there is a perfect alternative available just available and where perfect in this context means it's open, it's free. It's zero friction and answers every problem, which I believe we're going to see squirrel does until such a thing exists nothing will ever change that change cannot be forced. We know that I agree with Troy one hundred percent, and I would be happy to let squirrel speak for itself. I think we're going to find that it will be able to. And I will be surprised if it doesn't happen on the other hand, I'm looking forward to getting back to spin, right? Once this thing is launched. An out of my hands because I want to get back to spin, right? This is I've had enough of squirrel. But. And and really I don't have a horse in the race. I just wanted to solve the problems. And I think we're gonna see that they are solved. So we'll see. I think a lot of I mean a lot of people's questions about it. But just really come from at this point, not really having any idea how it works. I mean, we showed it is just you know, even myself I keep going so so on and on soon soon. Yes. Yes. Anything that makes thin occasion? Work will be much improved much. Well, and I wouldn't be surprised if you know like things like password managers last past could easily adopt could it's a perfect place to add squirrel support. So for sites that don't yet support at world. That's where you gotta go. Yeah. You use last pass and last. And let last pass be your squirrel client for for the what I imagine will be an increasing number of sites that will adopted over time, you know, again, it's not an all or nothing doesn't have to. No one's no one's trying to make any money on this. It has to be free. And but it it also has to be done, right. Or it's it'll just stumble as other solutions have I don't think this one will. We'll see. Oh, I mean, I'm rooting for you. That's the case. I can't can't wait to get rid of passwords. I think that's a good. Actually, that's an interesting implementation. If if it goes in your password manager, then squirrel gets used wherever it's available and over time your passer managers shrinks. Yeah. Get simpler. Yeah. Yep. To squirrel allow for or required to factor or is it? No. It doesn't need it does. And that that's the magic is that. As I've said, the only reason we need multiple factors is none of them by themselves are secure. So what squirrel is it is secure single factor that that is a main, and it's not it's both username and password. That's what's freaky. You don't have to tell it who you are. Then prove who you are it asserts and proves your identity all at once. So I mean, it's I I showed it to Laurie. I because I just on Saturday. I brought up the this new demo site. And I just I I so I I had you had the IRS client on my iphone ten and I and I brought up the site on ipad and would just sitting there. And I let the phone see the QR code. And then I let the phone see my face and the page on the pad went and I was locked in. And she said, why wouldn't it? Any would want this? I know. For one thing. Nobody has it yet. No one has had a chance to because it needed to get done. Right. So and also remember that the QR codes are that's only for optical to use your phone as the authentication device. Most people will just click on the log in with squirrel out on their computer. And so there's no phone involved. So anyway, basically SSH log in you know. The public private he log in that. I use them. I sage server, right, basically. No, no. No, no. I mean, it's it's. Well, it's it's. I mean, it if you lost your key. If someone got a hold of your SSH key, you'd be screwed privacy. Yes. Yes. With squirrel. You're not. You can get it back. Oh, I mean, it's you know, again, what what what we'll do is. I want to do at confrontational. You Mike elegant and Jason probably or whomever, John if he wants anybody are low table and have you got a while show it to you explain it to you. And then hit me because I there isn't answer for every possible. But but but but what about but what I'd like to do is get maybe get Troy in or Joe sigrist somebody like that -cause. Honestly, what we really have to do is just get the folks from last past implement it. And it would just take off the they're going to say, but we don't own it. Well, that's right. You don't own fast words, either. That's right. Exactly. But, but if you want a nice, you know, nice integrated solution, I mean, you know, they could say if they see the handwriting on the wall is like wait a minute are all our only chance not to lose people forever is to be offering the the alternative at the same time as it would help the transition from a password manager would continue on legacy sites to unlock the password. There will. Yes, they're never going to go away ever ever ever. I recognize that this, you know. And in fact, what other really cool things Leo is once you're comfortable with squirrel in the UI there. You can set a flag an option button that says it's only I it says request only squirrel only squirrel authentication or something. I don't remember the exact jargon. But the idea is that then once you understand how squirrel. Oh, works as you. Visit sites and use squirrel there. They cite sees the request saying shutdown, non squirrel authentication. So your username and password. No longer works there be but not only for you. But for anybody else that is it locks the bad guys out. Remember that having squirrel out then occasion? One aspect is that it's a convenience. But we also want it to be much more secure with the only way for it to be much more secure is if the old crap that isn't secure goes away. And we know that username and password isn't going to go away, but squirrel can ask that it be disabled and so- sites that want to fully support that can an increase their security. Oh, it's just it's goodies well suited right soon. Right. Reluctance, I think you said I think you actually for the first time I've really clarified that. It's because you only get one chance for I really wanna make sure it is locked down. Yes. You can't come back and have people go. Well, remember yellow? Yeah. We fix that. That makes a lot of sense. All right. Steve another great show in the can as they say. Thank you for joining us. We do this each week on Tuesdays. One thirty Pacific four thirty eastern Twenty-one thirty UT c can watch live TV slash live watch. Or listen. We've got streams both audio and video you can also chat and the chairman IRC that twit dot TV those are the people watching and listening live at the same time as you. It's nice community in there. If you want on demand version, Steve's got him GRC dot com. That's his website that Gibson research corporation along with spin, right? The world's best hard-drive recovery and maintenance utility, if you want to know more about squirrel, it's all there. Too along with other ton of other free stuff. Steve's gives away. It's a very simple Skoda G R C dot com. He also has transcripts of every show there. We have audio and video at twit TV slash S N, and you can of course, subscribing your favorite podcast application that way, you'll get automatically. I think this is. One show. Unlike any other show, we do where you want to collect every episode get them all keep them because it's a library of good information. Thank you, Steve. We'll see next time on security now. Thank you, my friend. Happy thanksgiving. Thank you.

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Trinyvale - Ep. 8: Crystal Chaos

Not Another D&D Podcast

1:33:42 hr | 5 months ago

Trinyvale - Ep. 8: Crystal Chaos

"This is a head gum. Podcast welcome to travel to turn Vale Yellow. It took you a couple of times to say that word tree tree kidding. I love it. Oh a world full of tyrannical tycoons God killing contraptions and three employees who regardless of how things go down are probably out of a job. It is any adventurers. Today story begins in the middle of our last. Chapter as trivial trio encounters lots of trouble amidst hot tub bubbles blabbing Norwalk. Escort the benefactor to the edge of the long boardwalk liquor. Stint sweat pours from blevins face. He knows what he must do. As they reached the end of the pier blob and turns and attacks. The battle is brief but long enough to give our heroes the time they need but where is black now. Is He alive or will you need to make post on craigslist advertising for a new roommate? Only time will tell and so without further ado. Let's rejoin retrieval team. Twenty two and begin chapter eight of the trivial adventure. True True we do. We know how blabbing attacks like. What's he working with? What kind of weapon? You don't know that yet you'll learn as the adventure unfolds Jersey Mail. Hello friends and welcome back to the table. I am your dungeon master. Aka Dunkel Caldwell. Tanner joined by. Who would like to introduce themselves? Jen's Lindell Sword Dancer and Word Prancer so glad you took your time. Wow Yeah you wait for it. But then it comes okay. Unac- slew me air. Hot Mess in a Pastel dress. Very good very good and last but not least Nyack also sword dancer also word neither of those other also word brand do neither. I act so clever. Where does this stuff come get it from my baby brother your older brother brother? We're here we're strangers. And he said brother NYPD percents. Here's never realized that big brother and baby brother are BB. No wonder they feel my my heart. I need a minute recording okay. I know you're ready to give the benefactor your two weeks or rather two minutes notice but first how about a quick recap you wonderful? Last time we met you three as well as Norwalk. Keychain were standing outside the benefactors mansions shaking down blab bland foot for information. He agreed to spill the beans and so after leasing him. Up with one of Japan's is dancing. Ribbons you all followed him to a nearby alley once there. He revealed that he is secretly part of an organization called the Golden Iris that works to keep travail safe from the very gods that made it. His mission has been to help. The benefactor gathered the giner at crystals and then steal them from right under his nose. He also revealed that the crystals contain enough potential energy to kill a god and all the crystals are activated. Together the resulting shockwave would have enough power to level an entire continent in a form of destruction similar to the aftermath. You witnessed on Gin rack. It seems that the benefactors plan is to kill a god no matter what the cost and so with this dire information you decided to enter the manner in search for the three crystals you previously handed over on Onyx on your way to the door received a follow up message from your dubious ally Mercure Yodeler. You letting you know that. He and his assassin bodyguard Z. Were in position. You then enter the mansion. And we're met by the benefactor himself. He inquired about the crystals and instead of handing them over Jin's used in visibility to mimic an accidental teleportation. Lavender Norwalk than escorted the benefactor outside to try. And find where you went while you three secretly slinked into the mansion's greenhouse observatory once. They're you used a well-timed distraction from chip the FRY cook to search room with a massive Arcane telescope which leads you to discover a magic doorknob hidden within the helmet of a statue after surprise. Scuffle with the rooms. Three guards and their sitcom loving living statue during which nyack executed a flawless. Elaine dance for onyx. Is instagram managed to recover the DOORKNOB? Which you then learn was equipped with a dimension door spell. You Open the door and discovered the three remaining crystals a pure white storage void after claiming them. You try to head back out the door but discovered the connection had been rerouted to the mansion's main chamber in which the benefactor a large laser focusing array. Now Stand The benefactor implored to hand over the crystals and when you resisted he transformed his Golden Kane into a staff glowing with aquamarine energy and prepared to fight and that is where we are now. So you were standing in the central Atrium around the room. You see six guards. Poised with their swords. The Cube Atlas that stood in the middle of the room has now been transformed into a glowing Tesla Coil esque death-ray high above you through the glass. Dome ceiling you see. The green flame of the lighthouse pulses as clouds. Gather around it. This guy darkens suddenly emerald lightning strikes tower and bolts of energy streak down the coil. The bolts jump from Moon Moon and into the Arcane receptacle inside the globe. The green blue glow dances on the benefactors face as he strides toward you staff in hand. What do you do? Oh boy hazy you out there. There's no response. You see six guards in the room. None OF THEM SEEM TO BE Z. Right on right on quickly. Shoot off a DM to Keith. Saying I always loved you you get a DM right back. The benefactor is like I'm saying that this is happening while the benefactor is delivering his speech before cutting back a little bit in time. You get a text back key says do you need help. I don't want to get him wrapped up in this. I still voted right. Yes I pretend as if I don't know that he's doing it but really. I'm like making sure that it's a cute texts. They'll going to make her look thirsty. Brother adeniji-adele for thirsty. His real quick first of all charisma gust charisma. Eleven eleven comes off as a little desperate. But I think that Keith. Understand your desperation. So he's not GonNa take off your shirt just getting. You never wear when I take a picture with Keith. Response Lol. Who's this I respond? So I'm going to pull my sword out. Both my swords started walking towards the benefactor and say in the name of my father. Everybody run everybody run. We're going to start running out the main door. Please don't run. This is going to be so much harder than it needs to be your running these. Are you all running? Why my landlord all right opportunity attack? Time wait there on us. The benefactor is he's walking towards us or he's on us. He is with an opportunity attack range. I will say that okay cool then I'm going to exploit Carson. Okay all right. Don't WanNa roll. It feels that but yeah okay all right. Everybody Role Initiative. Let's do this thing. Got Damaged San Eight. Seventeen all right. Who got to seventeen nyack word prancer honest which you get seven seven okay? Jin's got an eight. Let Me Roll for some folks real quick. I'm supposed to be dexterous. Fuck I think. Jen's definitely turned to run saw that the rest weren't running and then tried to turn cool dance. Move as I spun around Yes I would never run all right. Great Combat Has Begun. The benefactor staff begin to glow. He looks just straight up annoyed at y'all trying to engage him now he's like honestly This could be so much easier but here we go. I still think is going to be pretty easy. You don't look that strong. His eye twitches a little bit Nyack that's going to be your turn cool. I'm GonNa do a backward somersaults and get into a low crouch Lou and cast hunters Mark Rate on the benefactor. How your Crouch roll a D. Four D. Four? Just so I wanna get you WanNa get a one. I got a net one now that one that one on a key role with advantage on your attack. Oh y'all yeah I. Net One of tackle. Wouldn't the one was only a five? Do you have a second attack already doing a do. This is awesome. Twenty five twenty five. That's GONNA hit one. Hit Kill. Come on that is eight damage but I get to roll an extra d six thirteen thirteen damaged. Wow this skinny. Little Wiener is dead. Wow we did it avenue it so now you've gone now. It's time for the benefactor to make a legendary action. Ra Fun to on. Let's try do you know what let's start off? Big Time Wave. Everyone needs to make a wisdom or constitution saving throw up to the Goddamn Crew Sixteen Okay Honey Natural Winnie. Here's happens Jin's you got to three constitution. Modifier yeah Nimble as ever You are fully frozen great time. Nyack you gotTa Sixteen yes. You are frozen but conscious so you can see what's happening but you can't move. I'd rather be fully I and Onyx. You are fine. You resisted the time wave. Luckily that's a very powerful spell. So that is the legendary action for the entire round so you resisted. That's good y'all gonna get to make saving throws on your turn. Congratulations you're frozen in time. The guards turn all six of them. Oh boy let's see. I guess they're going to go for deter me. They're going to go for. Nyack is is running around. Bring his on. Come on and can resist a little better jazz. Just effectively dead okay. I'm just winter like swap. Realize the apartment. I flinched in a really embarrassing way. Right before I like going to push Nyack and Onyx in front of you like just see Double Chin late faces down a little bit as I'm kind of disgusted with myself some turning away though. That's a bad look truly girl. Can't respond just completely frozen benefactors blabbing when I talk. I know he's not here all right. I believe that twenty two that hits Yes yes. Nynex is not high thick north face. Adc hung around his waist. Don't worry these guards are wieners. All right so that's to be four damage. I was going to go ahead and have two guards hit. You also have them kind of split up after each of you actually might be easier go into another role thirteen. No no this other guard winner. I guess they're just distracted by Jaz Double Chins and they don't please. Don't tell them about it. I take a picture and post is. I'm taking an insist or a story of something else but you are in the background. How to hell no it is. I'M GONNA have to guards attack. Onyx does thirteen hits. You know. No he doesn't all right And the other guy got an eleven. They both with all right. Let's see here. I guard is going. After Jin's does fourteen hitch doesn't there we go The Double Chin. Blocks it froze? Fortunately they did crit on the right. In the fatty skin they trying to wedge it right in there never wanted anyone to see this only seven damage though. Okay okay that is going to be theft. Benefactors turn again. They have been waiting a long time for this day. They're going to go all out. I think they're going to try and cast a cone of cold on Jin's sweet looks like Oh boy. It's going to be a chunky role. They do not have many of these cans. I don't say this much but you're such a good roommate absolutely can't hear it. Oh yeah that's right. You probably can't hear forty six damage. I'm dead oh I go down. I'm so sorry it is what it is. Jin's it's your turn. Now go ahead and make a death save fourteen great one for the positive onyx. Your turn okay. I have something if things get dire for you jen's but I'm going to just attack. The benefactor does thirteen it unfortunately no second attack. There's donate five. Twenty five does hit. They looked confident. They blocked the first one with their staff. And then you just land all at smack on him with your with your Mace. I'm going to also do a brandings. Might ooh okay. Bring it bring that heat. I think that adds four. D Six who you're GonNa get branded Ben Dover baby that you could do anything to me anything you could present me with would fall from my body like a temporary tattoo of butterfly. Nice okay I give them a temporary tattoo. You come off I clock. That cannot wait to get one is. It's it's not temporary tattoo. Tattoo of a butterfly word bubble. Says Sassy binch if I ever relied on you? It's as butterfly but fly is emphasized because you are fly. Nice each club. Nobody takes on froze JEN's throws up blood. Didn't let that a death. Shiver will send send you to graves covered in. That can do more than that. Because what's expected to add my proficiency bonus to the damage on this target because I exploit curse more so just three more twenty eight great. Yeah that was it the hypnotized forces. It was dirty paintbrush from shame. You have to sterilize those okay. That's going to be. There was onyx back when when I make a wisdom Arcand Save Your break out of this I see my brother's limp body puking blood and I'll give frozen I back. I'm sorry Jen's I'm filled with desire to also get a stick and poke at two twenty you fully break out and you can take a turn now so we always work breakout. I was frozen as I was barrel rolling and I just continue my barrel Roll College. My brother so smooth and slammed right into the garbage. Can I hate you? But you have awesome temporary tattoos. I lay hands my brother. Aw cure wounds wounds my brother. It's touch hands stylistically. It's definitely touch hands touch for nine weeks ice. I pop up so hurt. Are we winning yet? All Right Okay. That brings it back around to the guards. It's very easy to have them all divvied so I'm just going to keep having to attack each of you. Nyack here comes okay. That's GONNA MISS. Seventeen is that it did not after my plus four to my AC after someone's initial attack. Wow Holy Shit all right great. Yeah they fucking with they see you do that barrel roll and even though you go into the garbage. They're like maybe he meant to go in the garbage. I I love the garbage in garbage over there. That's where my brother leaves the best food scraps. Eat out of the garbage exclusively. Eat out of the garbage. I order a sale of the garbage. I check in there all the time from the garbage. We share every meal. It's just so wild that you three are my best retrievers. People died trying to get those crystals and you. You are the ones that I had to rely on. I'm killing you all onyx okay. Twenty is probably going to hit. That's going to okay see. That's just four damage though GEICO hellish rebuke this and bitch. I do it that a fourth level because that is one of my warlock is okay. That's going to be five. You're going to send this due to hell. Holy Shit Twenty four twenty four. It's a good thing. You're killing them today because they don't get paid till next month. So thank you very much for that. Twenty four damage. You kill one and fully. Kill the second one to really. Yep Okay at your is so hellish. That both perish. I would like to when you slay it. Would you say that they're humanoid guards at six level? I have occurred specter when you slay a humanoid you 'cause it's spirit to arise from its corpse as a spectator it as temporary hit points. Equal to half my warlock level to roll initiative for an temporary tattoos equal to how much are like butterflies and rural initiative for the Specter. Which has its own turns. It obeys your verbal commands and it gains a special bonus to attack rolls. Equal to your charisma. Modifier the specter remains in your service until the end of your next long breast. Who'll long wrist? All right so what happens is that he only has only has do around up. He has three point five points or three and so I I kill him with a hellish or Stelle rebuke and then the heeling force of Pastel Moon. Energy brings up a little spector. You see a butterfly tattoo here on their forehead. My Lady must destroy this wicked man. Yes you must end. Your your turn is at nine. Your initiative is nine. Oh right above. Jin's wonderful possible. No one's as quick as me. I should be your nimble hero. Dance for you. Sorry Gems. You might've you're going to have to wait in line is an honor to be in front of my brother is the strongest one among us. My brothers back inspector. Will you hold your action until right before? Jin's is lovely lady this curse. Inspector executes a flawless Pantelis Dance. I don't see their genitals even want. Okay now the other guards are going. Take Jin's sweet okay. Nineteen and sixteen to those hit. Both of them hit. Oh boy okay. So that's going to be a grand total of nine damage. I go down all right. You go down. That's the garbage turn. But I think what happens? Is The benefactor sees you create this curse inspector and says two can play at that game and they use a legendary action to cast rewind soldier. This is another three action. Move the other guard pops back up and they are at five. Hp Again Oh one more than my baby. They don't have the tattoos but I think that's better honestly it's kind of like you just ripped me off. That wasn't really that inventing anything. Shum me do it. And then you did. It was quite derivative. I imagine you try to take all the credit for the original idea to. I've been doing that move since before. You left the moon. Alex of course someone with their butterflies at would be this insecure. Careful starts carving sticking butterfly Tattoo. The benefactor spins their turn trying to remove a tattoo. Jk It is their turn proper now. And I think they are going to go for on making a name for yourself just going to take some staff attacks you you see them swinging their aquamarine staff gold but it's kind of got like a glowing end. They swing it so it looks like a perfect circle of aqua marine energy coming towards you and they're going to take to attacks does a twenty one hits okay very lonely so maybe if you cover yourself with armor instead of butterflies look back. I rolled a one. So that's only four damage on that first one for damage right. Oh that's because I forgot about the new crop damage. I'm resistant to damage. Shit really damage. That's awesome they've been doing nick. Radical along not chronic Just their staff attacks across seventeen damage which gets half to eight eight more damage okay. That's their first attack. They're going to take one. More does a twenty four hits. Yes fought it might be okay on their next attack. They're going to do seven damage and men some nephrotic as well. It's going to be. Ooh someone's in their five points of narcotic damage that's great and that's turned many were holding. Steady onyx go. The benefactor looks like shaken by your determination expected. Nothing less than the inheritor of the moon. Crystal well I guess I am fueled by how many more butterfly that dues I want to put on you. You're fueled by more than that. He looks at your Chard. I know things about you onyx. I may try distract okay. It is Specter Stern. It is your Specter's turn Specter Sector Specter. Name is hector. I command you actor who already epic loudly serve you. I wish to earn more butterflies. Wonderful all right. So they're going to attack attack the benefactor attack. Your ex brother was my brother. Are you talking about Jennifer little work? He has dug it tech Jennifer from work so much sick going to squash. Whatever could have been between you two is Jennifer are using the Jennifer is the one that got revived by the benefactor. Okay all right so Hoekstra Text Jennifer. Go for it. Okay Hector you feeling towards a lot of emotion in there Jennifer was recently brought back to life and seize hector coming at her and his like my dad in my life. What's going on paid for twenty-three that's such as leave? Normally he wouldn't because the other guards are dispersed a bit but I think that's such a powerful over hit. Obviously yes okay. I'm so Jenifer. Fully gone cannot be revived again. Dead forever. He's at twenty three. Yeah Okay I'm sorry benefactor did I kill your toy. Did my toy. Who's been doing it longer? Don't call them toys. Sure I miss treat them like I still pay them and stuff you know. You're celebrated than being dead before payday. My I was still I mean. Listen that's just logic if they dive and I don't have to pay them but I'm still going to pay them this with you. Okay so that is you cleave through one more and then let's see and then one is looking a little hurt so fuck only two guards left now. Great work on that cleave great Okay so that brings us back to Jones yeah sweet. Nineteen all right great. I'm doing good genes. Congratulations on remaining alive. Onyx that is your turn. Okay so I'm going to hold my action. Put my hands right over. Jen's doubled Jin ready to pounce until right before Jen's turn right before he has to make death saving throw and then. I'm going to heal one hand for each chin. One Hand freeze That's a very generous giants in the afterlife. Here's people razzing him just starts farting self-consciously the benefactors. Like he's so live. I don't understand how he has Jin's does it. Make sense just from like a body because my brother's the best and he has more than anyone stop talking back. You have one chain when my brother's got to know I don't honestly is three no chins him chinses anyone. Have you ever see them? Fall Asleep on public transportation. You've definitely as public transportation whenever vases sleep under sleep on the bus out owner. We've been watching you via the in coins. The bus a lot. No I have Michael Car that I park around the block. They don't let anyone ride in the car. One time you're by yourself and I heard you singing a song about how much you love bus snaps bus and then you put a bag next to you and you get really upset if someone tries to sit next. Pretend to be more unconscious than I am. I all right now you. My brother takes two seats on the bus service twice as many seats as a normal he takes twice as long in the bathroom as anyone else. Whatever you can do. My brother does Duggal. You could tell them sucking in a lot of. I can't believe you're my guys. You're doing death seats. You're still sucking. This is my crack squad. Fucking HATE MYSELF. Brother from the afterlife. I beg of you've to Fart on my era can muster. I shit myself a little bit like my brother. Cashing declare my My Monica my declared great one of the guards probably right hector the specter on us it anymore. Just mercy kill me. Please have advantage on my attack roles. And I'm going to attack the benefactor. Wonderful Twenty three to hit twenty three. Yes that hits much. Do you damage this school normal boss for Jesus Christ seven seven. I'll take thank you. You actually scraped off some of the Butterfly Tattoo. Here comes another one. I don't know how Corporis for a second fire a second Eric. Great maybe you fire through a butterfly in the air. And then if they hate then you are pinning the butterfly. There's a butterfly fifteen fifteen. Can you use that fifteen on the attack? As well. The Butterfly there is a butterfly. This fucking high row pure luck butterfly. The Butterfly goes close. Call all right. You don't fuck swallow it aero fly. Twenty four to hit twenty four that it's and I was aiming at the butterfly the benefactor he jumps in front of the butterfly. Another two and seven damage. Seven damage again okay. Great benefactor is still standing. But they're taking notice of the heat. Y'All are bringing. I'll say okay. So we're doing this then that is going to be another legendary action from the old top himself What would you like to do? Aren't legendary I already forgot what the first one was. Honestly me too. Oh I remember when you copied forgettable action. You could take as many original actions burns or so hot. I'M GONNA have to put them out with a ray of frost. Ooh They are going to cast rare for us and they're going to do. It doesn't intimidate him out of it. A rocker is Maral. Check tonight I to do. It was unfazed really funny. Someone out of doing. What do you screaming to skipping the old saying out all the action? Twenty one's GonNa hit. I believe the is aiming obviously nyack. He turns to you and says. Do you know how expensive those butterflies are imported them all the way from the. How dare you now? That butterfly from ver- dances sucking my brother's farts. They'd love parts. There are very rare breed. Assuming you're going to be sucking his brother's farts honor for you don't stink. No normal charts and Shit SPITS SNOOP. Dogg's at the gas station chance having like super sad life. He just like I'm going out with my friends tonight. And then he just like so far by herself and solve. We have established in the Canon that the benefactor has been watching him. Do this is. He says he has a cool car. That no one else can drive. Tells them parks around the block and undertakes the bus the apartment talking about how awesome your life is and what are your at what he's doing. He's probably writing. Another mechanical bull. Is instagram again post? You know the fact that he doesn't post means he's having so much fun. It's so awesome. This is so sad. He's out the library. He's checking his bank account on the library computer. He's reading Manga. Very your friends suck. You will suck twelve damage. We miss out by Yusaku farts with butter. I think you don't understand. How rare this for the sucking. Butterfly is our. The hearts went. Give their wings their color. Who'd swindling monarchy so rare? All of my luxury goes unnoticed by you swine. Your speed is reduced by ten as well since that hit well. I don't know if that will totally affect things. But if you try to do like a big move might great. That's going barrel rolls coming. Okay that's GONNA be. The guards turns. There are only two left the only two remaining guards are Karen and Denzel Talk. Let's see they are going to go for GIN dead. I think that they see onyx has turned one of their companions. And they're a little upset about that so I think both of them are gonNA go for onyx. Can You let your beak again? No I used all my spouse only gets his bills at all. Two spells inbetween rests out to the two crew. On Karen's swipe eighteen hits. It does okay great. So that's going to be. But Denzel has the GEO stigma so really should be rolling disadvantage. Five damage up all righty. Is That my beloved actor? Stern actually. It's the benefactors. Turn and the benefactor is going to use quantum echoes which creates three illusory versions of themselves in the room Utter flies and Quantum geckos echoes gecko afraid of a Gosh Dang Lizard. It's not only the GEICO lizard. I'm going to be scared of him. Why would it be? Because he's got to try to make me change my insurance. There's a real hassle you leave your wherever are there's four of the factor now and they're all being like. Oh why would it be Geckos? They're all arguing in monotone together. This is stupid. One of them's I duNno. It's kind of funny up all right great so now. It's going to be super to hit them but you are going to get to try. Because it is the cursor guardians. Turn Heck. There's just going to go for one of the guards okay. Great what's what's going on for do grew those as six six. I don't believe that's going to hit near does not care and you see that a troy to a no actor. You look good doing it. You're just tell them. You were warming up actor. Yo wimp death as in life. You're done Denzel Denzel Dastardly. And I'm the hero of the story now and that's GonNa be Jen Stern but on is going to. She held her reaction. She held her action. So she's going to healing hands JEN's and give you seven hit point I pop back up. Go after Denzel longest of them. I want to use a bonus action to give barbeque inspiration. Onyx and say you're definitely getting a ride in the corvette. Is it gets out of the shop. Ox Seen Shop is what you've been doing it up and I promise it's going to be really Rad. Nynex smiles with tears streaming. And then I'm going to use my movement to try to put some distance between me and these guys don't keep getting hit by the same spells and shit that's good and then I would like to use my action to cast dispel magic on the clones. Oh yeah great work. I did something. Three men killed all three. My killed three get. No they weren't there. Were Gods my brother will kill your lizard. Weren't little lizards. My God listen to him. Either fly has risen. Listen to what he said. Not what I said. Oh you're getting in my head okay. So now after Jones's turn benefactor's GONNA make another legendary action. Here's a question. Here's a question that the benefactor would not know which one of you has the crystals on you I. I know I have one I would. I would say probably I have one in you have one. Yeah Makes Sense Klutzy and also does not have too many pockets. I think many satchels but they're filled with gloves. Either each of us would have one or onyx. One would have both so the benefactor is going to make a move move without opportunity attack. I'm going to do a random role to see which one they target six five. They're going go for Jin's three to four. They're going to go for ONYX and wanted to go four. Pack five all right so they move towards. Jin's unprovoked timid. How can check with this? I think I want them to try. And Basically Frisk you like grapple. Yeah let's do grapple all right. We're too strong guys wizard in a bar. The Butterfly. Oh the battle of the soft boys God damn it Four plus my negative one. Three gyms they got a natural twenty damage. You love crystals so what happens. Is they see that you have the crystal on you. They Frisk you down like. Tsa style pap inside of your leg. Where do you think you have it on you? I have it clenched between my cheeks. Put it there in a page but I have so much asked control that. I've held there all day on worked tension in your body and check the benefactor face palms and shouts Denzel Denzel. Get over here now. Denzel is going to be trying to grapple the Christianism. You does Hector get an opportunity attack on him away from Hector on Denzel. Yeah hedges attacked Denzel. Yes but Denzel moving yet on house. Carney will okay. So that's the legendary turn onyx. That's back to you okay. I'm going to attack the benefactor. Does it twenty four hit? Yes it's going to be twelve going to attack again. Another twenty four eleven eleven damage. Yeah so twelve. Eleven twenty. Three the benefactor makes that noise that people in anime do when they're like Kurt but not dying possible. Absolutely the Judah. Impossible crushes his. What is it called Scouter? Yep He grips his staff. So hard you can see like the metal bins a little bit sh- despite being looniest bunch of googlers. I've ever seen your pretty strong. I knew there's a reason blood and chose all right. They're going to take their last legendary accident after your turn on X. Oh I'm sorry you know what both of those attacks added four more on there that I have a heck split curse on him eight more damage had my proficiency what six more six was twenty. Three now is actually twenty-nine that I hit him for twenty. Yeah they say impossible again but like a little more. Their voice cracks all right so they're gonNA take one more legendary action. Okay what are they GONNA do Okay sure some trouble. So they're going to try and use a time spear on you from the hand holding their staff. A ball of Turquoise energy erupts they squeeze it and as they squeeze the ball it thins out into a spear made of pure light and they chuck it out. You make a constitution or wisdom saving through. I'm doing like the or one of the weaker guys going. As I watched one of my friends get hit. Those do anything. It's going to be at twenty one. You pass yea you totally just like Matrix around this thing next fucking rules on existing Kim Dope. She's fought dope. She told you're riding shotgun used to these two whatever but if you want to just chill here while we destroy all of Atkin kindle. You're welcome to show that butterfly. That's on Nyack Okay I'm going to put two arrows and my quiver crossing them so it looks like butterfly wings. Invite them both benefactor so I'll just roll both both of my attacks. Same Time Wow. I rolled really well. Twenty five and a twenty seven those both this ten on one arrow. Well how and then the Second Butterfly Wing twelve and is anybody within five feet of him perhaps Denzel he was up on me too. Yeah Frisking Jen's also Denzel L. IS DENZEL WOULD BE THERE RIGHT DILATOT. Denzel is currently over by ONYX. Okay so nobody's within five feet. It's not but you did twenty two damage that round you Gotta. Ten to twelve yes. As those butterfly Eros strike him you see a little bit of like glowing blood fall out of his mouth and kind of drip along the side discussing and he falls to his knees nyack. Finish him he looks at you and says I thought you were the weakest of the moth. You're the JAM boy. I never expected you. I am the weakest but I learned from the strongest brother. Passed me a poisoned butterfly. I I've asked him a poisoned by Nyack. This is this is your day. You're the strongest. I've learned from my brother and this butterfly. Attach to your butts and suck the life force from you really. So you're right right corvette two brothers. Of course so cannot accept both ride shotgun a year once it gets out of the shop going for who knows so much money to keep the corvette and the getting exhibit is looking at it right now and once we get it back if we remember even our ride is being pimped brother. Going TO BE VIDEO Games in the back. We don't even have video game. You this guy not doing it Stabbing with a with an Arrow Zil struck this butterfly off and he falls face flat on the ground. Dinsdale and Karen. Look fucking shocked but they keep attacking you. They're like no. We don't paid till next month and they like run after you promised. All she has the GIO stigma. I don't worry okay. So that's going to be Karen's going to attack I. They'RE GONNA go after NYACK obviously because killed their boss. I am the jam boy we. They're turning from Hector. Does that mean opportunity? Yes okay does I sixteen it. Okay yes it does it. A- fuck rolled really poorly eleven. Are you aiming at Denzel or Karen? I'm going after hector finished so I was going to bring them over to me. Like when like when Kat finds like a little toy and brings it to you so will bring it over to Onyx and then onyx what pleased. Yes very very pleased. You did such a good job us. Really good. Job of killed Denzil. Yes that's very good. I was so proud of you. Give them a tree of bb before for splitting that bag for so long. So where do we live? Can you honor Hector apartment? We have an amazing. You will love it as bedroom and there's a kitchen. It's a one bedroom that's it. We don't even have a living room. Sometimes I feel like I'm looking at the expense of our is over the ocean. Okay Dibs on the bed. I guess. Find Your Post sleep inside you. There's a half bath and hose on the roof remains died. Maybe all right well. Carrots rent free. Karen is very shaken by all of this but she still continues to attack nyack okay. Nineteen but it's you can attack the Jimbo. The Gym Man. On this day you have truly become dzhambul. Man Damage rear was that from beyond nine thousand yards cool so Karen Remains Jin's it is your turn sweets. Wait it would be there stirred before is right. There Hector yes golf only the job. Why does a twenty hit when does hit fifty you Hector Karen actor actor movie login of this one spend my sorts? Clearly your discharge of all them otherwise. You would still be here brother. Thank you rose. I cannot I challenge you to a tool Karen. Somebody's holding my arm. Twist to live okay. Yes yes I scrambled to do it in a different world. We could have been friends and you have wrote in my super cool super real corvette. But instead I'm going to have to send you to hell Intel style. I saw you feet a foot. Long sub on the bus the benefactor showed it tanger at her mouth and the MVP the whole time but you have so many viewers likes this selfie. Hi everyone to go too much interaction. So congratulations you're out of combat. The benefactors corpse lies on now. That's right you. Do you have the two that you grabbed as well as the tube with the other three in it. What do you WANNA do? I start over to the benefactor and I do my classic beating a dead body while giving away overly emotional on me and give me a double Chin Nyack shadow boxes and about the same words. Increase me as you're doing that. The benefactors reaches up and grabs your foot. Jesus you see. Steam starts to rise off of him and he glows slightly then you hear kind of bones resetting in his body you hear like his becoming moons healing you actually see the butterfly tattoo dissolve with steam and then he kind of rises back up. I guess we'll go again. And before we continue the fight. Let's rewind a bit and check in with our good friends. Blabbing and Keychain guy all right so a still on my head split curse on them so yes. The benefactor has risen once more. But we're going to rewind a little bit too right after Glavin Norwalk and keychain got captured. Oh and for this section hold on I want everyone to roll a dice. Just regular D twenty seventeen seven sixteen. Wonderful Okay Murph. You gotTa Seventeen. Yes you will be playing Glavin it. And who got the second highest seen sixteen do you want to play Norwalk or do you? WanNa play keychain which Norwalks voice. Kinda like this. I can't do bugging. I could probably do a robot. Okay do you. WanNa do black ink you talk more blazes Keychain town trained sounds like this like this call so blabbing year you wake up and feel like you're having the worst hangover of your life. What happened is really saying something? You're covered in bruises and your health is dangerously low. The last thing you remember is trying to hold off the benefactor and then being struck with several lightning-fast blows from glowing blur of green and gold you Norwalk and flask mode. Keychain are now being held in a prison made of hard turquoise light in what appears to be a large workshop littered with the hulking remnants of several arcane experiments to your left a glass board with golden equation scrawled on. It floats next to a crafting desk lined with menacingly complex tools to your right to guards. Stand Watch next to a large circular bank vault door. One of the guards has bright. Silver is the others are gold. What do you do? Bright silver is is. Isn't that would. Would we know that? Yes if you'll remember when you walked into the entrance of the one with the Golden Eyes winked at you. Okay so do you want to signal at them. Yeah Great So yeah I think Glavin wakes up and I want to waive Z. Over Irmgard I think I'm going to be sick. Oh no a little corner over there. If you just want to toss cookies in that corner yeah I already some cookies over there. We're tossing a lot of cookies over there tossing all sorts of cookies over there. Hey you WANNA go check that out Z. Disguised as this guard gestures to the other. Gartner like yeah go check it out so they start walking over there and as soon as they take three steps Z. Pulls out a KNIFE STABS HIM. In the back they fall to the ground and as that happens she double checks. The room sheds the armored disguise. Like a perfectly peeled orange and then you see the familiar. Half ORC lady names O Gaffe right in front of you. Sorry for keeping you waiting Hon. Now let's get you out of here. Damn you're beautiful. Not so bad really. I need a drink. And I try to drink from the flask of Keychain and accidentally activated Keychain I am wrong or you sound a little little horse their keychain you'll doing okay I am a expressive robot pepperdine. You didn't change. That actually sounds better. You know normally keychains voice really gets on my nerves so matt tone but like really got a little flavor to spice retrieval team twenty two. You know what? Here's The thing the benefactor not you all out drag you down here Told me in that other guy to guard. Ya So we've been down here the whole time. I heard a lot of rumbling. Going on So I'm not quite sure. I think they might still be you. Know investigating a hot tub room so we got to hurry and trying to get back up there as soon as we came diem. Note here while retrieval team twenty two is in the hot bird with chip gotcha right. So maybe we get up there all sneaky like showy and I take a little SIP lab and you sound. I real tired you okay. I've been knocked out today so like I've aged eighty years. Young sneaky is not really my fourth day. My hundred pound gorilla you know. I think he could stand to gain a couple. Extra hundred asked me really. Yeah I like a man with a little girth. Don't you guys both go in that? I don't remember you being quite this hardy time with me. The reason I survive retrieval team twenty-one all outside the room fan you know I never been turned down by the fat until now fucking gorilla been throw shit and play with myself. You would fit in perfectly with works and half ORCs. I'd love to visit your parents. Really cage still yeah. So Z goes around and deactivates the Arcane Cube. So you're all free but you notice that the door to this chamber is still locked Do you want to look around the room? Who Do investigate checkers? Meets Damn Shit. Today I got five at fourteen fourteen but I add intelligence to that. It'd be intelligence investigate and thirteen. Thirteen Norwalk would you get ten ten? Okay see basically just noticed the door and nothing else really catches your eye door. That's how we got to get out of here. I have a plan and I kicked the door. Okay you walk over to the door you kick it. Nothing happened strangely enough. Z's like I think there's a trick to it so let me explain the door a little bit. You see that. It's a large bank vault door but you notice that. Instead of a traditional lock it has these three large orbs set into the door the orbs relabeled one two three and the sockets orbs are set into are also labelled one two three and in the center of the ORBS. There's a large button labeled unlock. Okay try try the simplest answer. I I just press on. Lock all right wonderful. Thank you thank you as you do that. And then all of a sudden you press the unlock button the three orbs eject from the wall. And you see that they are not orbs at all but robotic scarabs And they law absurd my favorite little bugs like these little bugs you know. I'm learning more and more about you every day and I I don't like it by adult dislike it. It's just your interesting. You're quirky your fun to be around. Nachos and bugs so the bug start flittering around the air and they go. I'm scare up one. Let's have some fun. I'm scared up to I'M GONNA bite you arm. Stirrup three rolling one six seven eighteen right great work everyone and Z. Got A Z. Got To Twenty Okay Z. Is Up I. She is going to try and use her stop watch. This is a one day thing which she used on. Nyack along time ago. She's GONNA train freeze one of the SCARABS. They're going to need to make a constitution saved as they can resist getting frozen. Let's see if they pass role for all them. Well fuck these. Scarabs did very well on their roles. That's the Stop Watch for the day. It starts freezing out out of ideas. Let's see finding myself. Did I got a lot of other stuff. I do come on just cutting break here. And that's going to be these scarab stern. Okay so these. Three scallops are hovering in the air and they are going to start. Swooping tore words. I'm laughing I told you that I liked scarabs. Trae your good name. We just want you to get a closer look at us. Three so scare of one is going to go after Blandon. They are going to bear their golden pinschers. Thirteen thirteen does not head. Nice okay. Great do they all fly on me. I'M GONNA say to fly in anew and then go towards teaching sweet. I'm going to use a drunken master ability and take a SWIG and lean back and have that pincer attack. The other guy redirect attack awesome. So they I just roll attack You can take reaction to cause that attack to hit one creature of your choice. So it just hits hits. Yeah all right. Let me roll damage. Why do you hate your friends so much? No scare up to your friends. Why did you hit me all right? So that's going to be the one that's only going to be four damage to that scarab. Nicely done blabbing scare to Is Very upset. And they're going to try and attack you as well. That's going to miss scare three. I think is going to go after keychain scare of three goes mommy thirteen now nice so they do hit you. But they don't do any damage they try and hug your head because they think that you're just a big scarab scarab three me love me all right. So that's the scary turn. That's going to bring us to talk all right. I'm going to punch the dump scare- scared don't hurt Mommy. You're the mom knows this one. That smell like alcohol. Fourteen that it's Great. Great nine damage to the scare nine. Well done to the dump scarab. Yeah and I'll try to punch it again. All the nineteen Norwalk is a champion so that it's a crit. Ooh frigging scarab. I'm using key points. I'd scarabs you're creating on them. I think we're making good choices. Damage to that. Same Twenty total. This dump scarab is looking dummy hurt. Okay pretty switch. Ac Norwalk okay. Norac that's your turn. Yep keychain taste my guess upstairs to Jane Out of the I only like half opened of men keychains. Three feet tall. Sorry so I released a thirty foot cone of gas each creature. But I'm doing it at the scarabs each creature must succeed a DC eleven constitution saving throat or be paralyzed for one minute. Eleven constitution agree. Let me roll for them. Okay scarab one. Eleven you said passes scared to passes scarab three. Why would you do this mommy? They also pass around my gas. I'll tell you why are you so horny? Sexual be stuck in a robot curie. You'll never this is really please way you gotTa pick picture. You're going forward Z. Thought it was. I didn't think it was sexual thought. It was experimental. Okay Blab and that's going to be you a scarab sue rhyme or no scarab friends of mine and then I punch one in the face and falls down laughing. I guess I'll punch the one that is hurt already grade the dumb one. Yeah I'll go for him. That's an eighteen to hit that it's suite nine damage that just does it. Blab and finish the scarab. I say we could have been friends and then I crush him. In my hand you try and crush it but as you kill it reverts back into its orbit form. Nice so you have the number three orb now right on Cool that's your turn to more attacks. Oh Hell yeah or I have one attack in one offhand attack has I'm using my dope so I'm going to go up and I'm GonNa Punch another one in the face. Yeah that is a seventeen to hit. Seventeen hits suite nine damage great and then my offhand. Nineteen hit that hits and that will be five damage. Five extra damage agree. And then I'm going to take swig. Hell Yeah and that's a bonus action do flurry of blows to me to on armed strikes. Oh I got to one but I'm lucky because I'm sweet. Seventeen that hits eight damage all right take another one. Twenty four to hit nice six damage. Wow scared one is not having fun. Oh my wings are broken. Might tiny beautiful wings next. We're my favorite bug for everyone at home. Blanton is actually a drunken master. I think that's probably clear but instead of points he just takes shots of alcohol. Okay top the order. That is Z. Stern I think she's GonNa use her major claw and try and grab scarab one and then just manually reverted to the ORB form. Get scared one. Yeah so if you can do that that's going to be an oppose strength check. It's tough but if she can do that it'll help us in this real quick. Let's see and well fuck. She fails the check. Godsey is rolling absolute dog shit today. You lost a fight to a bug. You know what I think. She's just distracted by. How muscular and Beautiful Norwalk is and I'm just going to. I think that's fine. I think there's nothing wrong with that. And I think we should respect it cooled that brings us to the SCARABS scarab. Blend is extremely upset with you for whaling on them. So they're going to try and bite you and they are going to with scarab to is also GonNa try and bite you. They also with sweets air drunk. You get hit scared. One is the really hurt one. Yeah I'm going to take another SWIG and redirect scare twos attacks. One drug a masters are fun. All right so that's going to be eight damage. Oh Yeah you kill it. The scarab to tries the hit. You pincers are out. It's chopping the air you swerve around just like a garden. Hose full of alcohol. It just earn Koreans right in disturb one and destroys it. Scarab one reverts to ORB reverts to herb firm reform. I just WANNA say for the record that I do have one of those Las Vegas style like long water bottle Margaritas in the tube. All Hell yeah walk down. That's the SCARABS Norwalk. That's all right. I'm going to punch on a punch. Some bugs the catch you. I'm going to punch some box and I'll do it as kitchen. I'm going to punch him Bug. That is smart are sorry that is to seventeen for both. My fisk fat hits seventeen damage script to look and hurt. They are still airborne but they're kind of doing that thing where they like droop a little bit and then have to go ver ver ver. My cat would kill this. This is what they do keychain. That's you archangel keychain turns on vocals make I'm GonNa do an arcane robots guppy my voice. Yeah I got a much more fun for some of us to do so. Sorry I thought other a much less intimidating voice to do and I'm going to arcane and now there's low keychains. Arcane jump these purchase now. I'm in my element like robot. I'll do volcano body fresh. It does seem like Selena. Keychain would be able to do one of things is. Why didn't you do that earlier? Eleven eleven on the first hit. Yeah keychain finish skirt to shove him into the to spot the to sly that's where they were I'm just GONNA put them between my hands and show them together. You're so much cooler with that voice. It dies in reverts back to or form. So now you had these three orbs and you're out of combat congratulations. All right. I want a swat. These fucking things get so. Let's get this story about that before. Yeah I think a little more blatant but yet you really moved back there. That was super impressive. I didn't know that Inya lock without the Fund. That's not a bad idea should we? You said there was like a work table or something. Yes can I walk over to it and see? What's there absolutely? Give me a perception check. Fifteen fifteen so you look over to what you assume. Is the benefactors private workbench. You really can't decipher what any of the strange tools are for. But you do notice that the drawers of the desk stuffed to the brim with books and scrolls. I'm why don't you give me an investigation check? Yikes that is only going to be an eight. An eight okay. Why norwalk take a look at this? I want you album out. Plucking brilliant as you look over Z. Kinda like massages your shoulders. It's like what do you see on? I got thirteen so I see every day. Thirteen are nothing zayed thirteen. Who are who are you in? Where have you been my God? Fucking gorilla brilliant. I'm like I was like the scientist. I now team twenty one. Damn I love a nerd muscles. Thirteen Norwalk. I want you to roll a d six. No problem five most of the highest when you can get woo okay. This is fun you reach in to the drawer. Just Kinda like rustling around and you pull out a scroll of Super Healing. It is eight thousand. Four plus eight and it works on everyone within a ten foot range sweet and then Glavin. You can't seem to get the drawers open for some reason. You Think They haven't been oiled and a while and it would take gorilla strength. Open them but you do notice something on the desk. Okay you see a little post it note written on it. You see the phrase two one three the locks are the key. Could it be as simple as just putting it into one three? Yeah I mean it's it's just the door I don't think needed to be that complex to one three sounds about right. Blevins shrugs scarves go. Oh no they've figured it out what's What's the drawers? That can only be opened by the strength of a gorilla that was just flavor to say the blades week. Got It back a kitchen. You seem like the the brains of the group. Do you think we should try that out? Yes it would have been the voice. I really liked the way it was before only lasts for so long all right. So you're headed over to the door. Yeah we do too great so you put things really hard about doing. Takes a sip of his Margarita. Puts IT BACK IN ONE? Two three I is this guy. All right yes so you put it in the right way. Yeah okay two one. Three you press the unlock button. Yeah sh the vault door swings open and you find yourself in the benefactors. Private quarters The first thing you notice is that the entire room is a giant aquarium silver schools of fish flash amongst the coral like living wallpaper in the center of the room. You see a small desk with papers and a framed picture next to a large but not overly fancy bed and to the right of the bed. You see a large bronze baths fear in the room as well. You see a spiral staircase recognize as the staircase. The benefactor ended when I met you earlier today. you also hear what? Sounds like a big fucking ruckus upstairs. A lot of people fighting a lot of swords clashing you hear Nyack and Jin's and Onyx you hear Jin's toot as he tries to regain consciousness agendas brand. What do you want to do? Well we should probably get up their game but should we do a quick ransack down here. I want to see what kind of point is guys into. Horny is check out the bath. Sphere cool so you go over to the baths fear. You see that. It's unlocked. It seems pretty easy to operate you know. It's basically just an underwater elevator. You can kind of see the track that runs along and it looks like it would take you kind of out towards another dock further down the pier so this going to be an escape vessel but this will not be how you would rejoin the battle upstairs sweet. I'm going to put the keys in and get it running and look around the room and see what else we can find. Okay cool. There's not much else in here. That's pretty sparse. There's there's a little workbench which you could check out if you wanted to sweet. Yeah I think we're just scrambling around trying to grab whatever I think. Glavin is probably looking to find like Info on the benefactor important artifacts. I'll I'll help. I'll offer a help in offer. How fashion as well? Oh boy that's a big old eleven. I'm using called wells waited beverly days to and rolling like Shit today. Well you have in general you have bad luck curse which is why it's awesome. You'RE DM it's weird because like the oil should be helping because beverly's a greasy kid. Yeah Okay so you go over to the desk. What did your role eleven eleven? You don't really see anything of note. You see some pieces of paper with equations scribbled on them but nothing you can really decipher off the top of your head. But you do see a framed picture and it's picture of a woman it looks pretty old And there's a small engraving neath that reads Venetia Comma before the sorrow Sweet on hand. I'd take the victory. There's really nothing else in this room. Just grab the paper. I think we'll grab the painting in the throwing stuff in my bag. Ever really overstuffed backpack full of natty lights and Margaritas Power. Mixed Margaritas in your back. This cancer part Rita's and I think we'll run upstairs. Cool all right so you ascend the staircase. Just in time to see the benefactor rising back up from his recent defeat and now you can of course start. Replaying your character. I and goes. Wow Jen's did you knock him out with your fists amounting yes I did. No one tell them any different or corvette onyx. I miss you most of all. I have to admit I missed your voice on in a weird way. I'll continue to play. Norwalk. Oh no but Norwalk Z. Seeing each other now. Ooh We're official hung. Are you going to start a couples Ciro? We probably should did. That's what we're GONNA do kind how it works avail. Let's follow all of our Xi's happened to you on the set jealous tight so everyone is upstairs now you regroup with Nyack Jin's onyx. Party is back together just in time to see the benefactor rising with this kind of like sickly green steam coming off of him as his body regenerates and he says the chains of fate will be broken whether you want them to or not if I can kill even one of the gods their divine link will be destroyed balance will be lost and magic. We'll finally perish world then and only then we be free. And you see he. Pulls what looks like a miniaturized version of the KRONOS cooper that you had taken from the sun killer out of his pocket fires it. A small portal appears the tube with the three crystals. You had on it. The rune glows on it and it disappears and all of a sudden he's holding it will take a little time to recalibrate but it's better than nothing now. Let's do this one more time. Shall we before you can do anything before you can even roll initiative? You hear a loud rumble in the distance. You hear a Yell. Faint at first but growing slowly louder and louder you look up in the distance and you see a huge glowing figure flying through the sky as she grows closer. You realize it's Leonte. And she looks pissed standing on top of her massive broad sort. She serves through the clouds and as she grows closer she grabs the hilt and flips her body into a dive. Bomb skylight glass rains down. All around you. Leon rises from her perfect three point. Landing then turns her burning. Crimson is to you you again. I don't know why you're here but if you know what's good for you you'll take these crystals and get as far away from here as possible as she's saying this. She grabs the crystals out of the benefactors hands. Tosses them back to you and gestures for you to just fucking book it and she draws her sword and begins to fight. Kansas already gone long. Did they tell the Baathist fear fear? Yes listen guys. We found about this fear downstairs. I don't think we want to put the keys in it. It would been smart with the keys and we'll absolutely the keys are so smart platform. We are on the same page here. Mike. Let's go hi. I'm so happy to see you A. I'm walking here. You seem to be fingering. Hey might eat the business but gosh thinking it's a weird time. I was almost dead like fucking yesterday. Let me have this okay. Congratulations truly so you run for the stairway the benefactor calls after you know. Don't trust her. She's just another hand wants to guide your path and the knife to carve the grain of your existence and Leon just smacks him. Had enough for your words no matter what you say. I'm not letting you get away with this. No Lar- benefactor just quivers he clinches. His fist grits his teeth. And you see. Waves of Turquoise energy emanating from him way more than you censor saw. When you you're fighting a before and suddenly the golden brace that was covering his injured leg melts off revealing a leg made of the same stone as Leon's arm your to lately. Aunt Unidas both tried to stop me. But I've bided my time and now all of time shall come to an end and you see. He prepares a massive bolt of Turquoise Energy and they begin to fight the turns to you as she prepares to take the blast. I'll handle him. Just go go go about spears warmed up gang. It is time to book it please. Gender has already started driving off. Didn't even watch this. I flip off the benefactor. He doesn't notice but he feels it. Take one hundred thousand psychic damage course. Y'All are headed back downstairs. Insane clashes of define energy as to God's begin to fight in this lighthouse And you head downstairs towards the baths fear. Fuck Yeah you get down there. A WHO's driving me are high drive car. I have a really good car. Did you just look for some place to put in subway tokens? No I've just I thought maybe if you own a car you get a a driver buster. I own a car getting pants. I confuse me Miami. If you're on a car could have been sleeping in that. Come on man this year. Relax okay so you start. The this fear starts rising towards the surface. You see it following the track. You see some sharks swim past they kind of Iowa and then pay you no mind. Because they're distracted by the insane flashes of light they say rippling on top of the surface after a couple of seconds. Ch Sh you surface and you see above you. Floating on the pier is the sleek silver airship of Mercurio delury. Oh he looks down sees that you have all the crystals and just says will put my hat. Y'All he actually got them all. We can talk business later. But for now we gotTA mooks. He pulls back the domed part of his airship which reveals like a big deck tosses. Down a rope ladder. What are you GONNA do? I go for a real quick maybe. Divide up the crystals among us just in case anyone tries to do some quick gun shit and grab crystals from us and keeping the moon you can have the moon one. That's fine I'll take one of the other ones. I give one in Iraq. I have no room in my bags. You can get rid of some of the gloves you found me. I put my hand on NYC shoulder and I go one half of your bag full of gloves for the stranger. Half one half full of crystals for the brother have weeps CEO like family. This is the nicest thing brothers ever said. And he's twice as kind as anyone I've ever say. Give a lot of room in there now. Can I keep some burners? You wanted me. I climb up over both of them to get to the ladder driving keychain. Hugs you and I love you. Dzhambul man I never knew we even had a relationship you drink from me sometimes and sometimes we take baths together because that is where I live. I knew look like the plug. I make sure that your bath stay nice and bobbly because I make jets with my mouth I put a tiny little crystal in keychains mouth. Go so that's four crystals who's holding the last one. We'll give blabbing guess. Yeah I would be honored. Thank you for trusting me. I'm going to say that you've all climbed up on deck and this is happening up there as Mercury Mercurio takes off. Mercury was piloting the craft himself. So this is kind of happening while. He's a little distracted. Things got really wild back there. Y'All I did not even know. The benefactor was a god. What did you see that we have to go to the Golden Iris Headquarters Right now? I don't know if we can trust mckerrow. But he's the only one with a ship. I think that's best method. So he reaches his hand out to all of you and says really helped me see this through the Golden. Iris will be the only people who know how to destroy these crystals. Your hand is shaking so much just talking. Have a swing nyack one of my gloves. Please fumbled through the crystal cover the cover the deck put on a glove and put it over blonde. Put my brothers and it's it's nice to have friends. This saw might be hard to believe but it's kind of rare experience for me. Oh No really say have heard the people who drink the most of the fused like smiles really wide and says like I guess they do not a compliment here you over the loud sipping of his enormous drink. What a long glass you have or yeah. It's magic in the crunches it down to take it anywhere. That's the for school thing you've ever done and it won't be the last baby winks but like his doesn't close all the way. Now that's my kind of link so you take to the skies some from faraway inside the mansion. You see angry. Flashes of red and green light it is a Christmas of Violence Mercurio punches the engines and use zip off towards his hometown of Bena dos after a while the clouds lose their angry bluster and return to the peaceful shades of white. You all take a collective breath of relief. Mercurio puts the ship on autopilot and turns to chat. Well now that nasty business is behind us we can begin poly proper he pulls out a checkbook but before he can write even the date his face. Drops wicked periphery all. Looks like we out of the just yet and then from behind those peaceful white clouds. He appears a single. All black airship the dread horizon flag waves through the air like a wounded animal and on the ships how. Uc Him you see him watching you his hand gripping. The bandaged soared on his back. Gnc's wearing the same centers. Mark Mask that he was before but despite that you know exactly who it is rast is back a pull down my pants and I do. My Sword Dance. But I do not skimp on the genital viewing and that's where we're at So much role play on my gosh. I'm so sorry to throw you into the deep and like that but you all did fucking fantastic. It was amazing to see in lieu of puzzles. Sometimes you just have to think on your feet in fun ways and I hope you don't hate me for it puzzle. Yeah imagine we'll talk more about this on a short restaurant mixed bag in the future. Oh Yeah but for now. Thank you all so much for playing. Thank you all so much for listening. This is always such a treat. Y'All fantastic I love you all answer fun. Play more monks really fun attacks around crazy before we go. I do have a couple of shouts. Henry thank you so much for the dion subscription which helps me build the benefactor which I think it was a pretty fun little fight Daniel Ramos. Thank you for the sound mixing. You can find them on instagram. At Dr Schubert or Daniel Ramos Dot Com and Jens Christian. T thank you so much for composing some of the music. You heard these episode. Not only is yen's a fantastic musician. They also have twice as many and gloves as JEN's Lynn. Del Possible and one is entirely left-handed gloves for when? Yin's is feeling crazy to think about. We should take note brother. I don't trust lefties so I can't wait for us to rejoin our heroes in the sky but for now we must do and gang. Who wants to go to the waterpark closed? But my buddy will let us in at night. The water is turned off. But we'll bring our own water slide. 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Spectre Camera one of top apps for iPhones

Techstination

01:59 min | 10 months ago

Spectre Camera one of top apps for iPhones

"Your destination for gadgets ungeared. I'm Fred fishkill. Apple's iphones especially the latest. Do An amazing job taking taking pictures. What they can do even more with APPs created by a couple of guys behind Lux optics. The latest Specter camera was named one of the top APPS APPS of the year by apple not long ago. Co Founder Ben send-off it's designed for taking long exposures. So you take a photograph of several seconds and this is great for removing crabs from busy spots. It's great for creating beautiful waterfall. Useful painter looking waterfalls It's a really a great APP. Yes it is and it allows you to take those long exposures without the use of Tripod confined Specter camera in the apple. Well APP store for about two dollars if you liked taking pictures. It's a steal you can find us at text. NATION DOT COM. I'm Fred Friskin cooking with the power of the song. Hi I'm Fred. Friskin here to tell you about the latest avation from my friend Patrick. Sherwin and his great great team at goes on stove the goes on fusion has arrived using the companies tried and true reflectors and solar vacuum tube to get cooking without the mess of charcoal heavy propane tanks or smoke a really bright idea and with an optional solar panel and battery storage on the ability to plug in at home homerun the road you really can use the goes on fusion to cook anytime and anywhere. Dave Reno Shy. I love what Patrick and his team. Mr Doing and so will you want to learn more head to go some dot co two. Check out all of the company's product sent innovations and use the code text the nation to save ten percent that's goes on Dot C._O..

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Mobile Voting's Future

WSJ The Future of Everything

24:22 min | 2 weeks ago

Mobile Voting's Future

"Is Your Business on it's a game. It's when systems are intelligent. Automation is effortless and when technology and people work as one the game is your business at its best b. m. c. calls this the Thomas, digital enterprise find out more at the MC. Dot. com slash game. Young. Maybe you've heard there's an election coming up. If you're voting and you didn't manage to get an absentee mail in ballot, you may have to spend hours waiting in line at your local school or Church to vote depending on which of the more than ten thousand election jurisdictions you're in. You could find yourself lead pencil in hand trying not to mark outside the lines of the bubbles on your ballot. And while you're standing there, you'll probably be spending time playing with your phone, checking your texts or even doing some chores. You might be transferring money to a friend for coffee or filling out your grocery water or shopping for clothes. Then it may on you I can do all these things on my phone. So why can't I vote on my phone? The idea of mobile voting is so enticing. Idea that you could just let people vote on their phones. This. Is My colleague Wall Street Journal reporter Paul, Vigna it would be easier. It would be more convenient. It would increase voting because of the convenience asking people to take time out. Of Tuesday avoid hated the idea that we give people one day in the middle of the week to vote of never understood it entrepreneurs have latched onto this idea they've begun developing mobile phone voting APPS and philanthropists are already funding some mobile voting APPs in a handful of jurisdictions. My hope is that this kind of becomes the Black Swan Moment for mobile voting, other countries including India away Switzerland and Canada have already taken up internet voting Estonia has been doing it for more than a decade. But some people have deep concerns and the resistance is coming from some of the smartest technologists in the room. So it is a great question if we can shop in bank on nine, why not vote online? Well, elections actually have surprisingly unusual requirements. An unusual risks which means that online voting would open up the potential for all sorts of new attacks and be really much more risky. But. While we're waiting in the precinct line on November third, our risk reward analysis of mobile voting might take a turn. Can you honestly tell me someday five ten years down the road of the keep experimenting with this that they will not be able to come up with a system that is secure. Let's find out. From. The Wall Street. Journal this is the future of everything. I'm Janet Bobbin. Today on the PODCAST mobile voting. Many of us can get to the polls on election day if we prioritize and make a plan and everything goes smoothly. But for some people getting to a polling location isn't even an option whether they are in rural locations or in another country. Really out there the ends of the Earth it's it's ugly Afghanstan. It's middle Afghanistan. That's where West Virginia Secretary of State Mac Warner found himself in twenty twelve after more than a decade serving in the military he was working in. Afghanistan is a military contractor, the roads there were under frequent attack. The mountains were treacherous and the weather could be nasty, and so there were literally months. Wouldn't get mail. Just part is the acceptance of that type song. I'm that meant Warner couldn't vote in the twenty twelve primary. Fast forward to two thousand. Seventeen. Warner's back in the US and becomes West Virginia Secretary of State. So now he's in charge of his State selection and wants to help military personnel to vote more easily. Assistance is just kind of an afterthought or any cases. So what I WANNA, do I wanNA give soldiers and opportunity to vote and I think the Electric means is the most logical place to go. Warner. Started thinking about a guy he met back in twenty fourteen budding Entrepreneur Nimitz. Hani. So my brother and I viewers go. Up and to be at a hacksaw at South by southwest in Austin. Texas. At south by southwest side was just a guy trying to break into the tech world. He wasn't thinking about voting what really intrigued US besides the in the free food. Tons was the prize money and the team of the on was hacked to the future. Was One thing you would do in the future and how you're doing. So as he thought about the future and what he would do. So honey actress past growing up in India as a member of the Sikh minority A separatist movement was ascending in northern India led by seeks that was swiftly brought down by then prime minister Indira. Gandhi in Nineteen eighty-four she was assassinated by her Sikh bodyguards. There was a lot of political and religious turmoil and election soon after for the new communist and there were some very unfortunate incidents which happened under time and one of them was as a little kid see people being coerced ward at gunpoint. Coercion to vote at gun point that can stick with a person and in Austin under pressure to create an innovative APP. Sahana. Used that memory and pitched mogul voting after that used a digital ledger called the blockchain that was invented to help, buy and sell crypto currency. And when we pissed onstage, it was printer of silence in. Maybe. The completely bombed when they announced the first by it was a shock. So honey. Took that prize money found investors and developed the mobile phone voting APP called votes. That's V O. His first client was Mac Warner, the former Afghanistan contractor who's now West Virginia's secretary of state in two, thousand eighteen. The state became the first in the country to try it out in a federal election when Warner launched small mobile voting pilot program for his states military personnel serving overseas. But there were issues and there were critics up next votes and other electronic voting options work and why academics are raising concerns. The game is defined as the highest level of performance. It requires a Jill dougherty, intuition speed and skill. When you become an autonomous digital enterprise with BMC, your business can reach its full potential and achieve a game status. Your systems will be intelligent and predictive automation will be effortless and your technology and people will truly work as one to find out more about the autonomous digital enterprise visit EMC dot, com slash eight-game. Voting is John in many different ways around the country and around the world. But all voting has one thing in common verify billy you need to know that the person voting is who they say they are and that they only voted once. When you fill out a ballot at a poll, you have to be registered to vote and then show Id. But how do you verify with? Internet voting one way is with a digital ledger something called a Blockchain Wall Street Journal reporter Paul. Vena has written a couple of books about blockchain. If you wanted to boil it down to its most basic element. A block chain is just a database. It is a software program that allows you to maintain a database, but it's not just any database. It's a database that uses cryptography. The technology made a name for itself as the scaffolding that props up a crypto currency platform you've likely heard of how bitcoin. What's a bitcoin? It's an invisible virtual form of currency. What one analyst calls gold for nerds? How's it? GOIN' uses blockchain as a way to verify crypto currency purchases you can make a purchase and technically others can see the transaction but not your identity blockchain secures the system across continents without a middleman. So rather than having a central party controlling a database like J., p., Morgan, right controls, the accounts for all its. Millions, and millions of clients nobody controls the accounts for Bitcoin. It has all maintained in this open network. A bitcoin transaction gets recorded on the block chain and it gets packaged with a bunch of other transactions in one grouping a block, and then those blocks are hashed together with each other in a consecutive order one after the other after the other after the other data hashing function cannot be altered once it is set. Okay. So remember this is the Technology Nimitz honey us to develop the votes APP? His idea was to create a transparent decentralized platform to keep Internet ballots. No one person's in charge and you can verify a vote without being able to know someone's identity. This is the system secretary of State Warner implemented for the state soldiers serving overseas warner thought it went well so did votes but then news surfaced that hackers had to penetrate the West Virginia System Mike Stewart, the US attorney from the Southern District of Virginia. Says the case was turned over to the FBI investigation Stewart warned the hackers don't do it. Don't even think about it. We're serious about maintaining the integrity of our election system and we will prosecute those folks who violate federal law. Critics said the attempted half was proof that the system was unsafe at Warner didn't think so. This shows the system insecure. It did work. There was no penetration no votes were changed no-intrusion. The changed any votes and the system worked just as it was designed to do. But there were other questions about the votes APP especially around the purpose of using blockchain in the APP Michael Specter Researches. Computer Security as a PhD student at MIT doing Internet voting is super super hard. So when a company claims that they have a solution for it it, it's incredibly important. Actually understand what they're doing and there was really no good explanation for what votes was doing or how they were doing it. Specter and his colleagues reverse engineered the mobile APP that votes created there resulting paper outlined some startling. Vulnerabilities with the APP a good example of this is if somebody had broken into their servers rate, which Amazon which are running their code, there's a bunch of different organizations especially for people that could have access that person could change votes could see however in voted, they could alter the ballot they can do all sorts of bad things. Specter says, attackers could also sneak into the system through voters mobile phone or into their WIFI. They could see how you voted change the ballot stopped vote and even add votes. Yet, another attack was like passive network adversary that we found in this attack all bag I would need to do is the conversation as your voting between. And votes servers, and this is something that the owner of the WIFI network connected to could do or your Internet service provider could do or your cell service provider can do any one of those three. We found the votes had vulnerabilities that would allow any of these entities to easily tell which way you voted and if they so chose stop the valid and transit. Another computer security company also studied the APP and found. Of other security issues, seventy-nine total according to its report. Votes, CEO Nimitz, Hani, defenses APP, but he also admits that Internet voting is a work in progress. He says the argument Specter and others make could be used against any type of voting system. We feel ray strongly that. The word system is actually the most lavaux system out there because it addresses many of the concerns. have been out in the past. Whether it's hundred sign perfect no no no system time Preston perfect and that's real five in person boarding system as well. By. It's really important to be able to pilot so he can learn. Can keep improving. And though West Virginia says, it's pleased with how the mobile voting APP worked for that small subset of voters in the military serving overseas. This time around the state has switched companies to democracy live, which doesn't use the blockchain democracy lives CEO Brian Feeney says the company stores ballots as PDF's in the cloud. Really what we're doing we're providing a secure portal, which is a secure cloud environment, the same cloud environment that's been approved for use by nearly every federal agency. But at the end of the process has always a paper ballot that's involved. But opinion in the current climate especially having that paper ballot at the end of the process is really really critical. But this switch to a new system did not appease the critics. Park specializes in cartography and information security. She says any system that transmits votes via the Internet is still risky malware on a phone or a device can tamper with information at the phone itself. Before any information is transmitted outside the phone and then any confirmation or verification information that should be sent back to the voter by the system can be faked if the malware has control of the voters device, and while cyber election threats might conjure up images of sophisticated international adversaries using high tech methods to break into Internet Voting Systems Park says the actual threats are much more basic. A. Lot of the major problems that we're talking about are dealing with things which are quite common and the tools to build malware like this are common enough that there's a market for it. Some of these hacks could be similar to the data breaches. We hear about or are victims of ourselves that our credit card information has been compromised or our social media passwords have been unmasked. These types of systems are designed to work with these failures they're designed so that the losses are anticipated and absorbed by banks, they merchants and insurance companies. Elections are not like banking or shopping. If bad actors attack ballots park says the breach could ultimately invalidate an election. The losses aren't financial and and there's no such thing as insurance for failed democracy or put another way if we were okay with absorbing that risk and providing financial compensation for votes not being counted. Then why not be okay with people standing in front of polling places and paying voters to go away. Park is not alone a lot of big name cartographers have voiced skepticism about mobile voting and see real risks for democracy. But there are some people with pretty deep pockets who are funding these APPs and projects coming up, we speak with the funder behind all these ballot experiments and find out why he thinks our democracy is doomed without. Internet voting. That's next. Many of the mobile voting experiments in the US would not been possible without funding from Bradley Tusk. The CEO of a venture capital fund call type ventures I am also the see of strategies, which is a consulting firm CEO of Tusk Philanthropies, which is my family foundation tusk started his career as a spokesman at the New York City parks. Department then moved on to major government stints in. CHICAGO, than back to New York leading successful mayoral campaign for my Bloomberg. Then he left government and started consulting for Uber taking stock instead of salary and making millions. That's where he I realized mobile voting's potential while he was trying to get the rideshare APP legalized. So we kind of figured out that if we mobilize our customers, we could overcome the taxi. Industry, which the time was a really powerful industry politically with a lot of campaign donations a lobbyist obviously that's changed since then and I guess because of us but people who never vote in most elections they were advocating politically on our behalf and they were tweeting and they were texting and emailing, and the reason they were doing all of that is because one they liked our servers and wanted to continue to be valuable to them to. We just made it really easy right just right from the APP press these couple of buttons and it's all taken care of for you. I remember thinking wow, people could vote that way we could change everything. TUSK started saying that in the same way that Uber. Disrupted the taxi and limousine industry APP based mobile voting could potentially disrupt elections and Tusk says, the disruption here is about truly getting a majority of citizens to cast their ballots is turnout flips to fifty or sixty percent in a primary all of a sudden instead of having half the electorate be accountable to you. It's a fifth or a tenth or whatever the number is, and you're politically west power phone wallace relevant, and so they're going to want to block it but they can't say I don't want people to vote instead what they say is it's not safe. So that's how they're going to come after us. Tusks started backing mobile voting APPs a couple of years ago funding fifteen mobile voting experiments in six states including the votes, APP. That was used in West Virginia. But when an independent review Tusk paid for doubled down on the concerns by computer security experts and found new ones, tusk pulled his funding and instead he invited his biggest academic critics to join him developing a new mobile voting technology. is something that we will give away to governments all over the US maybe all over the world, even with ten million dollars from philanthropies and and put that into the tech build issued a request for information those proposals are expected in a few days. Tusk, says, he agrees that making technology as secure as possible is the key to broad implementation enhancing security is also would vote CEO Nimitz. Focused on but instead of just securing the way votes are transferred, he's working on how votes are submitted using technology. We use on our phone every day biometrics. Like some print password and facial recognition verification we use. So honey wants to build on the technology with advanced biometrics, how you will the phone. What angle you're seeing those touch screen on and all that. Obama trick signal in bad signal can be used as an additional security mechanism. So should your phone gets stolen or should somebody hacking your phone? It would be very hard for them to emulate by external. It wouldn't be able to impersonate you and submit of vote on behalf. But Mike Specter at MIT says voting still need solid verification, and that probably means using electronic hybrid ballots in that in the end relies on one of the oldest technologies around for counting votes paper. I know this is getting somewhat nerdy technical but the difference here is in the situation where you're just getting the ballot delivered to you and your printing it out and your mailing it in at least in that case, there's a human element. There's the ability for you to physically verify the ballot before it's mailed in, and that is significantly different than just sending ballot electronic ballot back through the same system. It's worth remembering that any technology will have to be scalable the mobile voting absence circulation. Now, only service small sub section of the population, but ultimately would have to be used by millions of voters. Phone paper, whatever Bradley Tusk thinks up or a combination of all these things. The goal for most of us is to enfranchise the highest number of citizens in the voting process I. Wall Street Journal Reporter, Paul Vena the best way to get there. Mean One big part of this is you look at election and you go back five, ten, twenty years whatever most people don't vote. They don't vote and there are million different reasons for why they don't vote. But one reason probably is in some areas in some neighborhoods in some communities, it is not made easy to vote. Can you make it easier for people in disadvantaged communities to vote with a smartphone if you can come up with a voting apple mobile voting APP Paul do you feel more confident about these newer systems? I look I think we're still at such an early stage in this that everything's being tested and everything should be tested. blockchain should be tested. Cloud should be tested to can you come up with what is sort of this gold standard, which is an end to end verifiable ballot process in other words can you come up with a system that at every point from the voter to the counting of the votes by the election officials? All of it can be verified all of it can be backed up all of it can be confirmed. Can you build that system? That's the real trick this whole thing Going to find out. No system is one hundred percent foolproof and every new technology brings its own set of problems. If you're old enough right now, you're probably thinking back to the two thousand election between George Bush and Al Gore came down to a couple of hundred partially punched ballots in Florida and whether they should be counted. So the question is, can you come up with something that is encased in four feet of iron and can't be broken? It's can you come up with something? That is as good as what we have I think that's possible I. think that's really possible I. Certainly think it's worth trying. And more jurisdictions will be trying this November online voting will be tested in counties in West Virginia Utah Oregon Washington and South Carolina. The future of everything is a production of the Wall Street Journal, Stephanie Ilgenfritz as the editorial director of the future of everything Lee Camping Carter is digital director of the future of everything. This episode sound designer is Sarah Gabe Alaska. Our producer is Casey Georgie. The Wall Street Journal is Executive Producer of audio is Qatari Yopougon I'm Janet Bobbin, thanks for listening.

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Can't puzzle will be any better than that. It's like a fairytale center and you would not understand that reference because you haven't seen in British K-. No so here. We need. We need to move on with the podcast Shannon and as you know, my second most favorite thing after and Bruce is of course basketball. Oh and therefore I think so. I think you've got something special for me today and I just can't wait to hear about this. I was debating whether I wanted to update people on how the NBA was going I feel like there's no point in doing it until the first round is completely over them, we can talk about the story lines because there are some very interesting storylines but something very interesting did happen this week has been A. Kind of developing story over the last year. So and even you might be entertained by this syndrome not entertain right word just shot called whatever okay. That's possible. So the Toronto Raptors have you heard of this team before Yes I really like raptors. I agree actually pretty pretty cool animal. Goes I'm glad that we both like dinosaurs. They won their first ever championship last year and we talked about this. Actually, it was a huge upset against quote unquote one of the greatest teams of all time of course, injury did play a role but we're gonNA forget that fact because Kevin Durant is little bitch. But aside from that center in Toronto Raptors Win Their First Championship and the moment this happened there gm his name is Messiah Usury. Okay. Everybody greatly respects this guy if you listened to him talk like super cuddly such a nice guy like a very kind soul. He was walking towards the court because normally you celebrate on the court and you get the trophy handed to you and the commissioner says, congratulations blah. Blah Blah this of course was in Golden State Aka San Francisco I, guess it was Oakland. He's trying to get on the court and he gets into an altercation with a cop. Okay and there's two sides to the story. The COP while first of all from side which I think most people in the NBA people that understand who he is as a person. Believed historic off the BAT. But historians, I was just trying to get the court. and His guy just wouldn't let me on the court for some reason showing my badge I was trying to do everything could eventually one of the players had to come on off the court to bring him onto the court themselves right. So the cop his story was that Masai pushed him shoved him, and as a result, this cop has apparently suffered very serious injury something like emotional damage physical damage whatever like this whole long list of bullshit. Right? He might have been damaged in advance. Yes. This is. Exactly what we're GONNA get. So it has been over a year since this happened and first of all yet to feel bad for him as well. Not just for this happening I should mention he's black by the way that's GonNa come into play here. But. I feel really bad from because it's the first championship. This team has ever had There was a lot of drama about him trading before the season started he traded liquid their most popular players who took a lot of heat. But as a result, they win a championship it was a very special moment and now it's just tarnished by this awfulness, right so a year and a half later basically a video surfaces on what happened literal they have arena footage and they have cam footage from the officer's. Uniform. Or whatever. Clearly the officer shoved him twice and then Messiah shoved him afterwards. So it was like to shoves and then one shove no harm done like obviously, it was just you know he clearly takes out his badge to show him and then the COP shoves him some get the fuck away or whatever the case may be. So very very clear cut the COP is in the wrong and this part really really irks me after this footage was released to the public which they've been holding onto for over a year and a half now. The forget exactly I. Think it was like the Police Department or something they tweeted. In conjunction with the Police Department saying they still believe Masais in the wrong and we're backing macab essentially I'm like. You can't even believe what? I don't even know what to say. No. So the COP is obviously right because he claimed that Messiah pushed him and there's footage showing Masai pushed him. Yes. So there you go. That's it. Nothing else you've? Got To keep. What you don't see in the footage is all the damage the cup took, which was because he got pushed. So if you're like if you have a deterministic look on the world. You think every like if things are predetermined right this push led to the cop later on that day having an injury when he played football. And all of that could have been avoided if I did not push him at that court and the being deterministic knows that this happens and he talked to the police department about it and they're all deterministic. So they've fully fully agree with historian believe him. So it's just the public just doesn't get up I think or the Yes flies right overhead. No doubt about it. So. That is the drama of this week. The fact that they've had that footage for a year and a half A. A. Mind boggling to me like as clear. Weird thing here is if something becomes that big of a thing, how does that not get released like what did the try to did someone tried to cover it up where people really trying to like? Whether like running analysis on it for a year and a half to make sure it wasn't another person pushing another person. There's a long. Story. I don't know it's it's also typical, which is also said some but okay, what's going to come from them? Well, originally, they were suing each other. Now there's a countersuit Messiah suing the Police Department. So let's hope he just shits all over them 'cause what does he have to gain? Money I. Guess I don't know. I have no idea. I I would assume that he does something like that. He'll just give the money to charity anyway 'cause he's obviously rich being jam of an NBA team whatnot but. No idea what ended up what ended up happening the day they won like he did end up getting onto court. Did he missed some part of the ceremony or celebration because he was so delayed now it was. It was very it was only like a thirty second delay. Let's say but it's more just the altercation and then the player. Moves them. On. Any flights to Canada. So they've been talking back and forth three year So anyway that is. The drama of the week in the NBA for those that are interested but in Doda Syndrome. Is Frog made a toy. Holy. Shit. He tweeted something he Osama Uragan Kiai finals is always the best day of the year. Sad. We don't get to see a new champion today. This has been a really tough year for a lot of people around the world. Hope you're keeping safe. Thank you. Ice Frog. We know that you listen to our podcast and we appreciate your concern for the well being of everybody in the world. and. We're also said that there's no ti finals. Shannon. I have a question here. This is where you prove how big of an ice frog fan you are Oh shit. What was his previous tweet? Og He re tweeted og the champions incorrect. He did one later wait. Let me think. He did one later This been one tweet between og winning Ta ten sort nine jumping the gun there. Between ojea winning nine and this one I'm not looking at chat. Can I get a hint? Syndrome No. I. I I can I can give you a hint K. It's music. Music. Okay I have no idea what. He tweeted the mango song one hour version by weeble stuff on November twenty six. No. Okay. I did not know that I feel like. I love. Only tweets big stuff, and then just randomly tweets the Mangos Song for humor. Seems he loves mangoes so much that he puts it on par with. Anger Delicious? But. That tweet was followed up today by longest technically yesterday when we're recording by the official Doda to read it or. To twitter saying in following how the pandemic has been developing globally. The recent increase in the unpredictability of covid nineteen means we can't yet commit to new dates for ti ten and the DPC. We share your eagerness in returning to these events will announce updates as soon as we can. So not a big surprise, but good to hear that they're alive. So interestingly. So I I read the threat of this on Reddit and threat. The thread of this hundred and their response to this post is really polarized actually. Okay a lot of people. A lot of people feel like this is an almost a non post because they're just acknowledging that there's a pandemic going. They're not doing anything because of it. You know it's not like okay. There's a pandemic ongoing so we have to postpone Ta Ten indefinitely. As a result where extending the battle pass or we're GONNA run online leagues or we're GonNa, try to talk to tournament organizers to get content to you guys. While we wait for ti to happen it's basically just saying everything with DPC anti is just postponed until we don't know when. So people feel like this lot of uncertainty and that valve could step in and ensure that there is content basically, which is what other Games have done right where the developers are. More engaged in organizing tournaments or at least being a part of them. Not necessarily organizing them top to bottom but just reaching out and getting stuff done and we don't know if I'll doing that it's entirely possible but there's nothing being said so people feel like, okay. Well, what what happens when we play is over? Like what is okay when the Omega League is over? What's what's left now processed that reaction? If. This was any other company. I'm just speaking from my perspective, any any any other company tweeted they tweeted I would have the reaction that you're talking about. But because valve never communicates rarely communicates just seeing a little. Piece of this. Just a little nugget. That's what made me happy originally but now that you've mentioned it yeah, that is. That is kind of weird that everybody else is doing stuff and they haven't really it's just come up with any like I can. I can understand that perspective like it wasn't my reaction when I read it I was like Oh, my God velvet doing nothing like there wasn't what I was thinking I was thinking yeah I mean they kind of announced that they don't know when it's happening. Lot of people are excited. They're like when is when is ti in? We just don't know that's real and that's I'm. but when you think about it like what happens with Doda for the rest of this year like what's left? Like. There's just a lot of uncertainty th. There will be some random sporadic online leagues, but there will be nothing of the magnitude that Omega League s right now this could create a perfect opportunity for you and I to start casting valor aunt syndrome heavy. I thought you were going to say we could do captains draft, but yeah, we could also. I feel like burning a hole in my wallet ever again. So This time? It's still where's that money coming nobody, wants to sponsor Doda. Not, to get serious here, but that is an issue. But getting serious again, our patrons could sponsor the US only we only need one, hundred, thousand dollars you look at zero return on it on it. It will deter investment. That's true if you want to spend money to see us do stuff. By all means I, mean I would love to I'm expecting so many emails after this episode gets like the there's going to be so many people that are hungry. Please let a sponsor toto tournament. Yes I can see I see it I wish that world existed syndrome but I've grown quite cynical. But you're right. When it comes to it there's no news on what's going to be happening but they still have time I think from vows perspective if they're not ready to talk about what the plan is I think that's totally understandable, but it's still. If you remember, the time that they said that Ti will be postponed basically all the communications since. Back, then we didn't know August twenty fifth that we would still not know we still have no clue right like nothing's changed. Some parts of the world are a little bit better summer worse than ever before it's. They don't have a plan and I think that's actually okay but they do to get plan I agree I agree it's fine. I mean nobody can predict the stuff. So you don't have to organize a full plan B. or plan C. where you're like well, if the pandemic runs for another six months, this is how we're going to entertain our audience these four months but. You know as your closing in on the original date and you can see there's no end in sight. You could have the perspective that okay. Maybe it's time to at least plan something. And maybe they have but they're just not ready to announce yet, and maybe they haven't, and then they're just hoping that organizers will keep everybody entertained when there's not PC. And that one is tough right because like you said, what can the organizers really work with? Feel like we plays in a very unique position here with how much they have invested into the tournament and most organizers just can't do this. They can't make a product like this right now it's just not feasible. So. I don't know it's It might be the best time ever to be streamer. The next on esl could probably just no tournaments more maybe they could not mad at the same time. At. The same time cannon showed are two different things right I mean the profit. If they don't think it's profitable than why would they? Right They have run tournaments in the past tons of tournament. Organisers have run tournaments in the past at a loss and you can't keep doing that and if now is even worse because you can't get big sponsorships for lands, maybe the expenses are way lower. Of course they are. You're not paying for all the flights and hotels for the players and talent and whatnot. but probably the sponsorship pulls you get our luckless interesting too because there's no live audience You don't have those prophets to work with either. Don't think it's very yeah like from a sponsor perspective. Lands are so much more valuable than online stuff. Just being able to have a product literally on the desk like, yeah you can have it on camera. It's GonNa look like absolute shit. You know 'cause nobody's got the same setup. Yeah. You could have Greenspan online is harder to make products look good So there will be less to work with. Okay. So we'll see if in the next. I mean here's the thing. The battle ends September whatever mid-september late. September whenever it is. By that point valve needs to say something about what's going to happen. Because I, think that is like literally their time limit I would be personally like not that it matters to them. I would be pretty disappointed and probably a little surprised that they haven't said anything by then. It's like the point of no return almost. I should say by the way I just I. Don't know why I mean it's because we've worked a lot with we play in. It's kind of the we own whatnot but we should remember it's a corporation it's we play plus. Epoch events it's not just replay running the whole thing which a lot of people think, but it is A. Partnership basically for this tournament, which is special as well. True. But you shouldn't give all credit to one side when there's two teams involved in the whole thing in deemed. Speaking of teams. Go work has now left og. This is what he twit longer D-. Parting ways with the hey, everyone I wanted to let you know Gee I have parted ways. This was honestly. This has honestly been weighing pretty hard the past few weeks but unfortunately what we set out doing. I'm a star of signing with Ojeda cast. Their Games has changed a lot when they started being involved in. Tournaments we want. We went back and forth a lot on how to make it work. But it was really hard finding a long-term solution I've literally nothing but love for the players on og and I'm grateful to have had a chance to work. So closely with them all I wish them nothing but the best and still support as a team but officially, we just have to part ways. Fox. So what I'm reading from this and what the Consensus Probably. Is that this Omega League Tournament for example is Has Revenue Sharing with the teams So the teams basically become. Part of organizing the tournament innocence and I think the return on that is that they can't stream the games. So it's kind of an exclusivity thing where the teams involved aren't allowed streaming, for example, stream and probably the perspective is that long there's GonNa be more of this. in that's if it was a one off, I don't think you maybe split over that and you're just like you take that hit this tournament, I can't do. But then in the future we do more. But if the trajectory right now is that we'll have more tournaments like this with the same teams involved with the same kind of system behind it. then. Maybe. It's just not. Feasible and there was a really there was a tweet from Pinch Michael about this can find that quickly. Wish I had that open already, but I'll prepare them really appreciates of road sixty seven by the way. when was quirks tweet Why can't I find this now? I hate you so much. This is so unprofessional. What if a sponsor was watching right now there's no monster shit show. Okay I can't I can't tweet right now. But basically the essence of what he tweeted with something like this kind of was bound to happen. This is the best time for valve to you know this is this is why valve has to get involved with some sort of. A guideline for. For basically writes an exclusivity right just make it clearer but works and what dozen and. Or? Well I don't think that's the right way to put it. No no no wrong wording because it is clear what works and what doesn't but he thinks it should be pushed or pulled in a direction where. Where we'd get A more how to say basically, where streams aren't free to stream anything they want but need to enter cooperation with the tournament organizer. I think that the easiest way that I can think about it and I know vowed doesn't want to do this. They don't want like they don't want to be this entity that just controls everything and I totally get that but there's certain parts of the ecosystem that you do need to Like, look after and this is one of them. I think the best way to put it is. We need to find a way that every single aspect of the Doda to world whether it be. The streamer term organizer Caster like every single entity. It needs to be balanced in some respects like every everybody should be able to make a prophet right I. think that's definitely doable right now certain. Portions of the Doda to seen are getting fucked pretty hard. That's how it's been the last few years. It's just gotten worse over time. The tweet there's no reason not to find a balance of some sort go ahead center. Yeah. So basically, the wording from Pimm Michael was this is a very big deal now that Oji was directly involved in creating tournaments suddenly a non-official streamer parenthesis even their own was exactly what every t o has been saying all along a threat to the tournament valve it's time to move finally whilst the perspective you had. Then Donald Perspective. Why would they do anything though that's a different discussion right like I'm not gonNa say whether he's right or wrong and what everybody responded with. But that was the tweet that stood out that I saw in relation with this and I mean it's back to the old discussion that you just talked about where how much the tournaments have and how much should the streamers have and what should valve do And what will they do? Right 'cause I mean we can have our opinions, but that doesn't necessarily mean that aligns with a good move from them. Right? Yeah I think our opinions have not changed. Vow should do something to make a little bit more balanced overall but I think I I guess the part I disagree with Pimm Michael I think he's just he's implying this right That valve needs to do I. Mean I agree. I don't think that their perspective change like what tips them over into that direction nothing's changed from their side. Like. If anything it's going exactly as planned because now, tournament organizers caster streamers are technically working together right Well they aren't. He specifically isn't casting the Games because yeah but they're respecting their wishes. Right. Right and. Revenue Ornament which I working together. Again, I don't I'm not saying this is a bad arrangement like long I have no idea what the numbers are but I know for a fact that this is going to be less money for the tournaments right? which may be doesn't matter for we play. But for the Little Third Party tournaments sure. Will you know? which there's going to be a lot more third party tournaments in this next x amount that we'd have no DP stuff coming on are coming about saw. Yeah nothing if you remember we did we did the So I'm guessing quite a few years didn't watch this episode People don't watch gus. But. We did we did an episode with Cork and this was one of the things we talked about was tournament casting And he seemed to have the. That he was very open and very willing to cooperate with tournament organizers to arrange something where for example, they work together and he pulls quite a number of yours and he could just use. The sponsors of the tournament and broadcast like you know they could go into talks and basically organize something that makes it good for both sides. That hasn't happened very much though. So that makes me wonder if the tournament organizers don't want it or if the streamers are demanding too much to broadcast tournament or whatever. But ideally, that sounds like a good solution to me where. Basically determine organizer can now pitch to sponsors. Hey, we have this big streamer casting the games and he will use the overlays that we want. So you get the reach of the sponsors and therefore we can just sell higher viewership because especially like on some third party tournaments, Gorka bulldog will have more viewers than the officials trim. and it's not a given that they will. It depends how much money the terminology our guys use on production ond premier to your casters that people really want to watch for. But if you add up all the stuff, then maybe it could be worth it for them to consider at least working with with streamers and Corpus definitely open to that. So. I feel like I've never I've never talked to a stream really even bulldog I. I. Don't think anybody is To what's going on I think everybody's pretty open. I know except work together and I think. At the end of the day, if you take advantage of it, I don't. I don't I don't look at it poorly if you take advantage of. The way that the system is in place because the system is broken right like. People will do the same people will act in their own interest in this and. Yeah like if the perspective is you're. You're selfish for streaming these games well. In you could also just say the tournament organizers selfish demanding exclusively in a system that doesn't promote it right. So it's like the argument kind of goes both ways and if the system and the game developer says, it's Free for all. Then it's referral. It's their Ip they get to choose. Indeed. Okay. So moving onto very important topics. The Arcana vote again, guys people love their Tom. Everybody Sharks Shannon. Okay shocker. WITCHDOCTOR fucking beat invoquer I really not expecting that I'll be honest. I was really not expecting everything went according to expectation which doctor or sorry void beat Lyon sniper beat am and Specter beat Sven just like we thought. Were beaten Fokker by think two percent points. Yeah. One by fifty to forty eight, I think sniper am was the same like both were super close but void took an absolute shit online and specter completely dumpstered spin. Those two heroes have a ton of votes, but while that may be important Shannon what really matters is who did you vote for? Then Okay I can take that you get one guest who do you think I put on my somebody already told me he was invoquer Oh that somebody told me on my stream like it makes sense because syndrome is a very logical person and he understands that if you're looking at it from a cosmetic standpoint, what hero has the most to gain from Arcana and of course, it's in invoquer it's equivalent. Zero Passes Rubik as an icon like in theory, right the problem though syndrome the problem is if an iconic arcana comes out for invoquer, what happens the persona you can't use the I know you don't use it but for people that do your great, let's fucking Shit Kid and Volker that's straight. You know. All right. So anyway, maybe the Arcana could have different voice acting to and it would be really good. Kids we know you hate children she says it's. A A plea here. Okay. Okay. I don't care that much about who wins this overall I. Just really don't want one hero to win dino who it is. Most people have already voted. Please use me as inspiration to do the right thing. You don't want specter to win correct put all your votes which director has the least to gain on Arcand. Let's look at it from a cosmetic standpoint again, K. first of all witchdoctor is the only support one reason to. Support Him Yeah I mean that happened with ogre though, right. Ogre won the vote. But in my opinion, not really one of the greatest Kanas is valuable. What's the deal with the Ogre you could have made you could put three fucking heads on them. You could have made a third head, his testicle, you could have done. So money and so many different things they put them on that would have made him better though it is third head as a testicle. That's not good. Shannon sound like a good Arcana to me. Are you sure that's not a good are considering it could get into the chest though because of the viper that we. Definitely. Not Anyway, which is a lot you can do with sniper a little bit more generic, but again you have like. I don't think anything has ever changed with shrapnel. That's a really good spell. You could do something with and then Cronos fear for void which there has been a constant could shoot frozen chicken. Yes. Any literally anything what are you GONNA do for Specter? Remember when people voted for the voice to change you know what they did. They just made it exact same thing over again and nobody noticed basically the same shit I remember Oh. This is actually a funny story I was at valve offices after the specter voice thing got voted in and they're like we never thought this would get voted this is such a bad choice. We have no idea what to do like I don't blame you. It's like 'cause right. I think that the voice is what they had. It was just backwards or something I can't remember what they did but it nobody cared when the voice came out because it's so I think that's why they stopped doing the voice. The voice votes anyway, please. With Specter, what can you do with Spectra for Connor? Yes, what can you do? Please I mean this is the way I. Look at Essendon. Good spectral digger and then. You send out the dagger and then you're like underground you're still targetable and people can see where you are but you're like digging through as. So you WANNA. Turn Specter into a nitish worm. That sounds like an Arcana. That's more than are kind of persona I'd be more than. I would I would like I would have no problem having a persona for specter it changes the hero completely. It turns a fat disgusting death of a mess into literal puppet which will get to next or could you do haunt? Nothing. Haunted just are Louis move on then. Do not waste your vote on. Specter for God's sake I play Specter more than any of these heroes that are left I. still don't want this garbage cosmetically you want to win. If it was my choice. Honestly I I don't know why I feel sorry for him but faces voyages should win yeah I think I wouldn't single out of the final four as well. I want him to and then it's a tie between sniper in which I'm not sure who I have a second but neither one specter's dead for I mean I was actually looking through all the heroes literally all the Heroes Specter is actually the bottom on my list and she's made it to the fucking central all heroes all heroes while she beat more fling who is basically to D it's a Tutti fucking block from minecraft and Specter. But half the game more fling looks good when he's his old. My because he turns into somebody else. Here's good models all the time. Giving, spectrum con is also conifer morph in every game that spectrum whatever moving on syndrome. The pudge persona came out. I I made a video immediately okay and I didn't even set up my rating system that usually have for the horseheads. I'M NOT GONNA lie if you watch it, you'll notice I was in a bit of shock. I didn't know what to think. Of, this persona. I would like to hear your thoughts on the toy butcher being released. We've had people on both sides people love it. People hate it. The people that hated are saying that it's to League of legends easy. It's too cartoony. It doesn't look very much like the actual concept that they assigning concept that was the loading or the Promo Art. But what do you think? I've played at one game I lost because I played pudge. Ken. not because I play pudge but because it was punch good to clarify that I play. I played fine just to clarify that but it's pudge so you don't win. But everybody really wants this hero nerf because it gets picked all the time in Laura Ranges, of Mr People think it's very annoying. Can we just okay Shannon before free talk persona gain rat. Okay. Listen how can pudge be good for two weeks. Okay, he was good for like two weeks. He was genuinely a fucking good hero I loved it and I picked it a lot and I had so much fun. Then he had to get narped two weeks. Why is it that pudge guests to be good for two weeks and I'll get to be bad for two weeks a year. How how is that possible? Like why can't pudge be good sometimes and why can't be bad sometimes, what does it always because project never get to be good it's. Fun Hero People Pies are very loud I. Agree I love I have a fucking horrendous win rate with pudge forty, five, percent win rate. It's my most played hero I'm terrible with him but I know if I'm GONNA play. So Fun I have fun whether I win or lose. I can miss every hook and it's still fun because I'm pissing my teammates up. There's always something to love about playing putt. I. Agree. Okay. Didn't. visit the Han forums and you can read it skills ice frog. If you don't remember, he can brush up on them. About the persona I played at one game. It's not really my cup of tea I'll be honest that probably doesn't surprise you at all nine to me. It's a little bit too far from what I associate the hero with But for what it is, I think it's pretty well executed. Now, the thing that people complain about with it being too far from the reference I could. I could definitely see that perspective that you know some of the things on the reference would actually be better. I. Think the reference hair is better I. Think the reference stitches are higher quality and they could I don't know what their budget is with the hero but I would imagine they could have made that work somehow at least Make it a little bit more polished I. Guess is the way to say it because some people were pointing out this that. He looks a little bit more like metal then. Cloth. Relatives what he should Ryan He's also ten. I can kind of super small. Yeah. That's true. They could've also made him bigger could made him bigger too. That's very true. So but for what it is, I think it's pretty well mate could be better, but it still solid. I personally, I think this is not a very popular opinion. I personally think the anthem one I prefer that one and I do because because the pudge one obviously did way more right he has custom spell icons. Yes. Custom spell effects and everything a both our personas valve obviously. wishes. To everything he does But the M one just feels more Doda. Basically, that's the best way I can explain it. It feels like it belongs warned the universe but yeah, the Petron, it's still I can see his fun and very different, which is a good thing a lot of the time so. Yeah I don't know how to read it though like personally for me, I don't like it very much but I wish. I don't know what you do. Right like what persona do you make unpunished that that I would love? I don't know. Because I think the original budget is cool. I. I really liked him. You make them fat mess of a woman that's what I was expecting. In anything, I would love to have a woman pudge that sounds fucking all like the What are they called? There's like type of enemy in dark souls three. That this really rude remind me of they smack you with a book. What are they? The enemies don't have names. I'm sure the audience will know that the ones that play the game will know what I'm talking about. He could look like those. Sick. That's great. That's great. Hear. As one of you're playing guard souls, three Shannon, you never play what I say you should play you should play classic. I've played while before like I told you. Not Interested with the didn't play well classic. I mean I played. Wow. When it first came out that's while classic. So for me, I still don't have an opinion honestly I didn't think I ever will out. What You didn't play when it first came out and we wanted to get this conversation over I'll say whatever you want. A good way of ending conversation just lying and moving on. There's something. It's fine. I. Don't know what to think centre. What do you think that I what my opinion should be based on everything you've you know about me when it comes to college my guess for how you would score that or before out of five. I gave it a three five because confused I just like it was a cop out answer I don't I. Don't know I don't think I. would use it over my normal pudge cosmetics because there's so many cool. PUDGE cosmetics. The fact that they don't change rot bothers me the fact that it's super tiny bothers me the fact that there's little sound effect for everything you do that sounds like you're if you have a dog, there's just. Loose finding their fucking toys under the couch cons you're likely sound. Do you like the sound of the hook? Not I don't hate it. Don't love it either I'm very new this. Thing called. That's a Carousel, right? So Mary go round where you're like you. Know the thing you wind up with your hand O-. Melody Jack. Jack. Is that the official name for that I don't know. Maybe it's called. Yeah. Check box, right? Yeah or Jack in the box whichever it is. Yeah. Because that's what box, right? Yeah. That's probably not that to me. On the hook man like I'm not the thing that bothers me as well the key in the concept I keep saying concept or. Technically that's not concept art that's Promo art that they had on the battle pass. It showed that the the hook hand was like separated that would have been so cool to have a hand pop out and come back in but instead, they just go for a generic needle which is disappointing as well. I feel like they could've. Done more if they're gonna go that Ham on changing him, you might as well go the full nine yards. Honestly. So I. Just worm. Yes that's that's like eighty thousand imagined. This worm just comes up behind you and starts eating you do what is up with you in worms lately anyway. I. Give it a three out of five. I'm going to stick with that because there's no way I can give it the same as anti may's out I hate the anti-ageing so boring. And you give to me to gave it to I want to go back and give it a one. Really. Damn. I really don't like it does real people that made that Shannon. So Actually, it's funny. Nikki was playing around on her stream. With the. Persona for am and just made some basic changes like highlights the hair to make a different color and stuff like that. I thought that looked a million times better than copying anti-major and just making him a woman. was. Very. Boring. But to each their own my friends to each their own. Okay. Onto some interesting I don't know if you WANNA call this news because this is kind of in the files forever. But there was a reddit thread about this that there is a new hero named puppet master found in the game files with skill description cinder in. Let me read out some of the important comments from this thread. Okay. Number one top comment from Suns Fan time to a port. All Han Heroes let's go. Let's go is what a fucking dumb, ass okay. So then next Next is from actually never mind. We're not GONNA do that one but. The important. Okay. The important one here is from Serb Belvedere okay. Doesn't actually mean much because it's not really new and not to mention there's tons of placeholder entries for icons for numerous other characters that were never used over the years puppet master. Valkyrie Squirrel see mystic towed. King. Vampire primal beast to name view. These are probably left over strings from stuff valve US internally. Sometimes, they're just random characters Houston customs. So unless something substantial materializes in the files, really possible to know what they these were referencing to. It could be a hero they're trying out but then maybe not. There's also rumors Sinderen rumors apparently there's a spell called mind control. Oh. Which reminds me of action. slacks is terrible. fucking hero parasite which had mind control as the ultimate which actually. Really. Yes, there's genuine no way that mechanic mix into the game, right? I mean. Maybe, I have to double check myself because we did get staff assistance but like. You'RE NOT GONNA put my all in the. It. Sounds cool. Okay really. So for those that don't know, you can just google the on our youtube channel just search for it. It's called parasite with its S. it spelled that way parasites spotlight. You can see the skillset. So I told him this I've told them this publicly privately everything in between the concept for that here is the worst literally the worst fucking concert for here I've ever. Read in my entire life I can't believe. We actually have people work on it to put that in a game but. Again. I told him the ultimate the only cool thing about it. It's very broken though, right but I feel like any concept can be nerf Te. To. Be viable slash not completely broken I truly believe that. If you imagine an ot where let's say you have a hero and he mind controls an enemy for five seconds guess full control and they deal reduced damage with their spells or whatever, and then when the other player gets control back, the cool downs are reset or something you could do a lot of things to really make it. Not. Extremely. talented. Imagine you could mind control the enemy and just use all their spells and then they get control back and then they have nothing basically killed them I think there's no way. They're cool downs. Yeah. Hundred percent agree. So But it's possible I mean I could see it actually I could see my control working but I do think you need to have some really serious caveats and I think another thing when you open up a back like that imagine the bugs. Oh we I don't imagine center. We had to actually delete the hero from the game because it was literal virus. That's how buggy it was not even exaggerating he's been deleted from the face of the fucking earth. But the word puppet master really got my attention because obviously that's a hero in Han and as we all know ice fog worked on for a year and puppet master is by far one of the top requested. Wise. The most unique hero that basically doesn't share any skillset with anything in Doda for the most part. And I would love to see that hero in Doda. I think now I haven't played on. I've watched like. Three games or something Beckon Dream Hack. I am. The hero that I have heard the most demand for and I have no reference whatsoever except just what I've seen is is it called chipper maybe that's my hero that's my number and then Mentioned Gimme. GimMe a couple of heroes. Then I'll tell you what the third one is closing its puppet master chipper and one more. I can't remember the. Told me let me look at the heroes that I'm pouring into. There's Zephyr. there's. There's gauntlets, amoun raw nomad. Isn't nomad Chen or something no. There's Bombardier. kraken I don't know there's a lot of heroes. There's like I could look on the listen. Now those sounded like the hero I was looking for, but maybe I'm imagining something that doesn't exist. But at least chipper chipper and puppet master, a lot of people really want. So. You're. So here's the cool thing working on a four. So I guess this is a mini update for pod people out there we're working on a four before mode. where you have like a dual lane in mid. Kinda. SPLIT UP. and we're going to be porting not pouring. We're GONNA BE MAKING CUSTOM HEROES FOR I've been testing it on stream for the last few months. And a lot of the heroes that I'm. Creating, are based off of Han here. So I have a hero right now that is like half chipper half Bombardier that is going to be fucking awesome. He feels at mazing puppetmaster those one of those that I haven't done I don't think I will because I literally can't think of a skill to replace for any of his stuff he's so unique he's a right click intelligence Kerry. Does that exist in Doda like Lena kind of right? It feels like such a unique thing that would be awesome for the game I think they would have to port the. hearkens. Blade. Item. which we've talked about before changes your attack to magical. For here like that. That there's so many. Cool. Here's please valve. I'm begging you like you don't even need to change them. Just by the rights, they'll probably give the PRI- take like twenty bucks at this stage, the games dead please get these concepts begging you so good. So it wasn't looking at in tears. I think the closest into hero we have to carry right now it's actually nature's prophet. Okay. Sure. Probably Nature's prophet can be billed as a right click carrion he does in quite a few games silencer. Maybe. Danger Answer. There's a few. There's some that can. But yeah, it's not. That common I guess. All right. Moving on Sinderen. So update for all the people that were interested in the fall guys battle of the brands as of this recording. Apparently, we have one week to go. the current highest bidder. I'm going to sound like a goddamn idiot for not knowing who the hell this is F.. T. Apparently the number one. Youtube Gaming Channel. Has Bid Four, hundred and twenty, two, thousand, two, hundred, and twenty, two dollars and twenty two cents. For. Whatever they want to put into the game. I just checked out there channel yes and I hate it. How many subs do they have? Is actually a big channel. It must've six point six, million, six, point five. Okay. So it must be based on views and not subs. Okay hate it might be an exaggeration but it looks like your classic Youtube Channel With like fate thumbnails Click Babe thumbnails. It's like who would you click bait title rang planned real right things and it it looks like it's primarily targeted at kids. and S you have established earlier I apparently just fucking hate kids. So he do therefore, I can't like this is Valerie Syndrome. Yes because you're being a kid about it. So I don't WanNa play with you. That's why that's not very nice. I don't actually like this narrative I have nothing against. Started, the narrative by saying you've wanted destroyed voice actor Foreign Volcker. added. That is a tabloid headline right there. Absolutely vowed I have grown to love Click Bait based on the history of the we say things as you guys know we use click titles and we use them ironically, and then if we don't use them, we actually lose viewership so now we use them ironically and on ironically at the same time cinder isn't that the beauty of the world to come full circle how can they both ironic and on ironic at the same time anything is possible okay. Now let me ask you this. Do you are you surprised that it's gotten to four hundred, twenty, two, thousand know How do you think it will get to buy next week is the deadline I don't know what I thought was going to happen was that the top bidder would be a corporation basically not a YouTube channel I thought somebody from I, don't know like you know the Classic Lake. The corporation said really tried to stay in touch with the younger demographic Wendy's, for example, would be probably be a great. Like. Would have been. One of my guests is for somebody that could have invested into this because it's You know to Promo move its way of staying in touch with the youth they all this game is all the rage among i. mean it's not just the young people. It's a lot of different like it's not a demographic say it's not like fortnight where vast majority of the players are very young I think at least that's my read on it. I think this is like very late. I haven't played it, but I want to play and I've seen I've seen a lot of like. Is there a reason you haven't played? Are you playing world of warcraft still? That's still captain is that still? Save it for next steps. Okay. There enough But I thought maybe a brand of that kind would step in like right. Let me ask you this. I wish I had the full list of all the people that have been so far but I noticed a couple I won't name them but. It's a viable strategy knowing that someone will probably outbid you. To just put your name in there even if you can't afford it for publicity alone. More. So. Let's say you cannot have. Let's say you bid one, hundred thousand dollars and you cannot it. Let's say I bid one, hundred, thousand I cannot afford that but I'm only because I know somebody's going to outbid me and it makes me it's like a PR move to advertise move for myself. You know what I mean. It sounds like a gamble. But what happens if you do get the highest? Don't WanNA. Pay. Is it's not a binding. Then I guess it just goes to the second highest I suppose although maybe they publicly shunned you get publicly shunned there's a public. Aspect to that can actually signed contracts before or after. No do not sure. Okay. So that is we'll have the final update I assume next week. One. Second. Before we finish that topics, I'm just trying to figure out so this. Thing. Says that it's the number one youtube gaming channel for a like a couple years straight now does that that probably doesn't mean it's the number. One most is probably just self proclaimed or I mean considering that. Is. Because It could have the most views of any youtube gaming channel on UPLOADS. I'm not talking about streaming, but an if they upload a lot, right if you have five million subs but you're upload ten videos a day and people watching that stuff. It's just as an example right 'cause there are some really big gaming channels on youtube that are much bigger than that in terms of subscribers and I don't know about their stream like maybe it's the stream that's the most extreme I don't know but. Anyway Never heard of a don't know what it is me neither but now everybody's heard of it right because we just brought her open everybody watches slash listens to this amazing podcast that we have self proclaimed to be the best podcast in any eastport period. Speaking of the greatest east rules period. League. Of Legends has a new I refuse to say the C word a new car. You. Know can't say champion. No, that's the seaward though I know I just I. Champion you know I am so happy valley does not have champions. They had they call them agents that makes me so much. More willing to. Champion so much it's just it feels dirty to say I don't know I, but that's The word that's because you don't like league, right? Yes. Word itself isn't bad. Any choice. There's a new league of legends character coming out apparently named Sarafin. And the reason I'm bringing this up usually we won't bring up a new. SEAWARD coming out soon. But the reason. Champion it's not that hard. I can't do it. We say champion when we talk about tournaments, you know the tournament had champion okay. So you can say I've heard you say the word I know you can say the champion of this tournament. That's true. The Victor, go the spoils. So reason we're bringing this up is because it's so unique with a riot is doing. This serafin character has not been officially announced Qe but has like twitter and instagram and all this stuff in. Obviously, a very league of legends inspired art in all pretending to be a real person like with a cat and music loving and all that stuff and apparently somebody that has been leaking stuff before for riot or I don't know if it's for them but has leaked at the next character will be one. So it has a shit ton of followers now. What do you think this marketing? I don't WANNA call it a ploy because that's more of a negative and yeah. What do you think of this pr move I personally think it's really cool and I would love to see more companies do something like this. I think using using social media to. To do stuff like this, I think is. is a really good movie. It's a great way to get people talking to get interactions to get people excited. This reminds me of I don't WanNa. Say it was the first show that did it because it probably wasn't just remember community. Having a social media presence where some of the characters have twitter's and there would be referenced and. Used in the show right and you could find them and they were real which I thought was really it's like you know funding and cool and I think for something like this is again it's about staying in touch with the audience right I. Don't know I'm assuming there's some of the stuff is on Tiktok as well. That would just make sense if they did something like this being. Majority owned Chinese company as well, and all I believe they are not talking. Ten Son is. The majority owner so You could. I, mean. I think. I think what we're starting to see games right now is that in order to really get people's attention, you'd need to start going the extra mile because the so many people making games and there's so many people making patches and updating their stuff. So the thing that really catches people's attention is when you do something different like fortnight's blackout or. This kind of stuff is great example is or fog is doing this PR thing with the. With the charity stuff that's what I mean. We're talking about it for a reason, right? So got imagine if if valve did this for Doda one, just one time just to see. So I know for a fact valve loves loves to experiment. This'll be such a cool experiment to see like imagine a hero and you just come out like they're lower. You hype it up. You don't have to do it in the same way that you pretend to be a real person. You're hyping it up with like different types of content you can just hire somebody to do it for you. It's really cool. Imagining hero that in order to play it, you had to have linked your twitter to Doda. And then. Yep that's. Great. Valve I would recommend not hiring syndrome he. Is Really I mean. You're really bad at twitter by the way I have to say. I don't think he tweeted once about this podcast unless you have. Once. More than once. Okay. I'm pretty bad at though. So I can't really talk. Next thing on the list we talked about this last week. How epic is fighting apple apparently Microsoft is now backing epic when or read a quote or two here. This is from Microsoft to the courts apple has alleged. Of, only one such agreement and that agreement does not govern epochs access to develop tools for the unreal engine, the distribution of apps that are used for development purposes by unreal engine licensees of various other EPA, develop a program accounts rights. Microsoft instead the breadth of apples retaliation is itself an unlawful effort to maintain its monopoly and chill any action by all those who data oppose apple end quote. And then followed up wait we were in the yes. We need. Gilbert Gottfried. Nobody wants to hear him to to read out our patron shoutouts fuck. You might remind you what you're at the sound. How does that sound like Gilbert the such an increase? It was super overdone. You know what I was thinking it was it sounded like the American forefathers you know sounded like back in the day. Very Very. Dependent of the United States I mean, they sounded like idiots back then let's talk. Constitution doesn't make sense it would make us. Anyway. Not to go onto that anymore But our friends slasher tweeted as of a few hours ago by this recording at least breaking news as expected the judge in APP in epic versus Apple has denied epochs motion to temporarily restore fortnight to the APP store but has ordered apple to not block unreal engine access. SO THAT IS A. I. Think that's kind of what we thought was going to happen, but it's good to see that it's at least official I'm not sure what kind of ramifications if any apple I mean apple Epoca still going to go at it. So we'll probably have the touch base in the future to see what ends up happening over on. What do you? What do you hope happens? What do you think is best for games will be best if apple didn't exist. Okay. That's a likely outcome of this lawsuit. So what's your second best? I don't care. I want apple to hurt syndrome. I don't like them. Don't like the business practices. Okay okay. I then I think we we talked about this last time I think both companies are being kind of like you know. Pieces of garbage to some degree at least but I think most gamers would definitely side with epoch. 'cause the way that apple kind of. Police their. Stores Kinda, ridiculous in This Day and age you know we're like open source is so common like Google I don't know how stringent they are with their. So I know they were involved in this as well. But the fact that you can put anything you want technically on android phone because it's based on Lennox is. Completely different than fucking IOS which. You can't do anything. I hate apple did I mention that don't Kill Them K. that's news to me. Last topic before we get onto the Patriot mailbags cinder and apparently I don't know how accurate this is. But I figured it'd be an interesting topic to end on. Scientists have said a an exploding star likely caused the mass extinction extinct extinction on earth for the dinosaurs syndrome. Wait was that for the dinosaurs maybe I just made that up. Let me search dinosaurs real quick. Hey. I literally made that up. So one of these before answers so they've had several mass extinctions and this one apparently was because of an exploding star which I find very interesting. But the reason I brought this up, which now doesn't make any sense to bring up but I will anyway. Do. You like dinosaurs. Yes I love raptors good are so gladly. Do you believe that the dinosaurs died to an asteroid syndrome? They died due to climate change of some sort probably. Do you how do you have a belief? I know that you're not. It's not going to be like one hundred percent believe this or whatever. But do you lean towards any quick I? Think the going theory right now is the asteroid I guess the asteroid changing the ecosystem it's not like the impact that just killed all dinosaurs instantly right? It was the following. Changing climate, that problem? Right, okay. Would have to be really big fucking asteroid to hit everything and then what the earth even. Any mean wonder how big the asteroids don't have. They're pretty big to cause a mass extinction. Obviously. but mammal survived syndrome a lot of species survive but not beautiful. Actually not old dinosaurs had feathers discussing I'll just read out the sub headline of the of the thing you referenced here says scientists are starting to suspect that an ancient Supernova irradiated, our entire planet killing much of its life. The real question still remains what if it had killed all life could it return right? That's always the thing is okay. Just life just begin to exist or has it always been there in some form? Yes very philosophical question could could could theoretically wipe out all life forms on earth and they would life would find its way back or would that be the end and because of that that might be why they're saying killing much of its life not all because. They couldn't explain if it killed all life how it came back. So it's easier to believe that a lot was lost but not all maybe. Not. I would agree with that. Apparently there is an asteroid heading for Earth Syndrome. Did you know this isn't there an asteroid heading earthly every year and then? A bigger one than usual, which it's always your one than usual as well. So but remember what year it is. Okay. Yeah it's twenty twenty center. Is it possible? Yeah. It's possible. It's always possible. I always found interesting. Here's here's my question for you if an asteroid at Inter where he wanted to. Write on my face. Oh that's what it does. I think it's technically it would do less damage if it was on land right the. Technically. It would do less damage to humanity if. Such a piece. Yeah. Horrible. Horrible I hate you. But I always found comical that we at this stage. We can see the asteroid coming, but we can't do anything about it. So is it even good to know I tell the public asteroid coming guys? Twenty twenty asteroid. We've named an advertisement for NASA like the hero or champion Saurian League of legends. You get people talking you like, Hey, there's an asteroid heading this way. By the way, you guys know who's keeping track of asteroids NASA. Apply now. Yes. Apply Mouth, please you may be. Maybe the asteroid one end the so okay. With that will go to the Patriots mailbag where we have two questions. The first one is from pitch-black who asked I would have a question for the mail bag, but that's okay. Do you think now it is. Okay, do you? Do. You think it's easier to learn league of legends for some coming from Doda to or is it easier to learn Doda to for someone coming from L. O.? l., and then for some reason, he adds I hope this question upsets both view. Best. wishes. So. The implied thing here is obviously it's easier to earn learn either game. If you're play one right than somebody who plays neither, which is clear which won't be easier to transition from an to think. I would say it's easier to learn league for someone that plays Doda because from my perspective, Doda has more layers of complexity. And League in many aspects is. A Simpler version, which makes it. More, casual, friendly, and a lot of ways. But also makes it less deep. In a lot ways So that would be my choice I think it's easier to go to leak from iota than the other way but I think it's also overrated how hard it is to get into Doda and get good at it. If you've played a lot of league is a lot of people are like a doesn't matter does us so much harder? You haven't played league doesn't matter of course it matters it's. So many core. Things of the Games are the same that you can obviously transfer huge amount of skill compared to somebody who has never played the genre. Some. Legal a lot more skill shots in league. So that's something you'd have to. Give the way I don I agree it's more micro stuff small skill shots, hitting skills shots. have. To try and stay awake while you play as well, which can be difficult with league. Yeah. So might be a little harder in that respect especially if you're have narcolepsy. So next question is from Sean. Chivers. Hey Suns Fan and syndrome not sure if this has been done before or if it's something either of your interested in but I was thinking of the mailbox question, you could do a ship of. theseus. theseus type thought experiment for Doda to the ship of the thought experiment basically being if I replace a plank of wood on a ship, is it still the same ship? If over hundred years we replace every plank is still the same ship at what point does it stop being the same? For Dodi I guess would be heroes, mechanics, map lots, objectives, buildings, items, etc. How would you need to be or how much would need to be removed or replaced for to not be considered other to anymore love the podcasts keep up the good work. So I think from my perspective center for to not be Doda, anymore is to release a cosmetic that turns a fat disgusting pig into a puppet that squish every time you use the spell. Thoughts. That was scary. Holy. Shit. That is a scary noisy. Just I can actually do a pretty good crying baby impression but that would not be on the podcast. Not, nope. You can find that on my stream. I haven't done that in a while though actually. Syndrome. hoops just shook my because I got so excited. What are your thoughts on this? Very, interesting question it's a philosophical question right and I think I think the answer in a way. If this makes sense, the answer is the same for both I think it's like Your answer to win the ship stops being ship. Bless you and your answer to when when Doda Dodo is kind of. It's kind of just about how you philosophically think about it. Right? I? Don't know that's how I would say. So what do you think? Would you agree with that first of all? Of course? Yes. Okay. So let's let's think about the boat then because I think that's simpler view. Do you think at any point? It's a new boat. So it's to you it's just the same ship, the hallway and you just replace planks and it's still same ship. Yes. Okay. So in Doda. If we replaced every single hero with a new one, one by one and replaced the map with different trees and renamed the Game League of legends. Everything it would still be. Now because he renamed it, that's different. Okay. We could rename the ship to then it's a different ship. Really it's the name. It's the name that changes. So let's say the ship is called Mary now you replace one plank. Yarn, it's a new ship new ship. One. Hundred percent agree yep totally. Is technically a new ship you name it something else you know you change your name, your new human being you know. What's your opinion on this and? At, what point does it become a new game for you? I was following you the whole time until these days. That's fine. Go, ahead. I think I'm leaning to that way of thinking about it too. If you change one bit at a time until everything has changed, it is still. Doda I think I mean if you think of kind of almost gone there haven't we think about it like so Mike Fifteen years and you compared to back then to Doda now, I, guess, you know there's still some items that are largely the same and some heroes that are largely the same but everything has had changes and we still considered the same game rams. But here's here's the thing that I disagree with. So we're talking about literal planks of this ship, right as the analogy here. So for Doda, you can't say it's everything part because the ship. If you change the planks one by one. Eventually it's all new planks but yeah, I still consider the same ship because it's still a ship. Whereas with Doda, you can change mechanics to actually make it not like dote anymore. Right, you can change it to League of legends. There's I think the one to one. I'll take back what I said I don't think it is a one to one with the ship at all. Unless you WANNA go with analogy that the ship doesn't float anymore because he made. To it, right. You changed every planning and you replace it with wheels right and then he put you made it a submarine that has wheels rent. Totally. Full of good ideas today. I'm here all week There's there's definitely a certain point where does not become Doda anymore for sure. But everybody's got a different opinion what that threshold is Yeah. I guess. Yeah okay. So so how much would need to? So that was the final part of the question how much would need to be removed place for it to not be considered Oh to anymore. So what would be the? This is hard to answer. But what do you think is the most critical thing that makes Doda what it is is if you take that away. Do, you think if ice hogs stopped working on the game entirely that the game would not be anymore. I think I don't agree with that. I don't know. Multiple, different developers on this game I. Think the game would slowly die with an ice fry. I'm actually being serious about that. Okay. I think he's a special type of person. That doesn't exist in any other of. Thought, you're GONNA say that doesn't exist. He might not exist in real life I. Don't know I think that's impossible question to answer because there's so many different. Like little complexity has come to donate to you can't just pinpoint one thing changing, right? I'll tell you like if they made the map symmetrical I've always wanted it would still be to to cinder believe it or not. If they add the fountain to actually just absolutely bend people over if they got into the enemy fountain that would still be Doda to and guess what that's going to be a to in two years after all the micro buffs year after year that valves. GonNa make. Got It. Good. All right. So that's the end of episode sixty seven of we say things Sinderen. Would you like to go to Bruges with me? That's seen in Bruges is prerequisite. No. But if we'RE PLANNING TO GO TO BRUCE The movie then that's going to spoil the real bruce. So really I'm definitely not GonNa because then we can go to version I haven't seen anything we will never have gone to. We never go to Embrey if you don't watch it. So I know it's a never because that's a prerequisite like I just said, well, who gets to choose thought. I just I already did. Washing what if we watch in Bruges in Bruges I mean that that's fine to watch together. Okay. But you have to like I would literally make sign a contract because I. I am not fucking flying to Bruges and having you dodge watching in Bruges they're okay but it would be fitting to watch in Bruges in Bruges. Actually to fulfill the contract, I need to go to Bruce and watching Bruce with you. Yes. But then I can go home immediately. I mean that's up to you. I know you wouldn't do that so he can do whatever you want. Oh. I'm glad to walk around in brush. It looks like real fairytale city. So They're happy to do it. Okay. That brings us to the end. Thanks everybody for watching. Thanks for listening until next time son San and Cinder. Man. By the of the what do you think of the? Okay Not by The nickname of Cindy, do you like it? Not In particular by. Later Cindy okay okay now. We. A The. Thankful.

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Witching Hour Poet EP 2: THE BUNKER (RUINS OF CORREGIDOR)

D. J. Swales Gothic Horror Tales

04:53 min | 2 months ago

Witching Hour Poet EP 2: THE BUNKER (RUINS OF CORREGIDOR)

"To. Welcome to the witching hour poet. My name is DJ swells. And this is my poem the Bunka. Shrapnel, whole sunlight shafts impale the gloom. Bent on door constellations inches thick. Perforated delicate lace on dulled by decades doubled in grief weeping rust confetti for lost brides to be imagined weddings treasured scenes dead. unfulfilled. Gems held precious in aged minds, ju to the cruelties of this space. By, God's grace I. Hope they now play out in some prayed for parallel. Scott. Concrete walls brazen scroll anointed to clear the lives of those once loved and now forgotten testimonies of the extinguished names fresh as youth of folks back home from sea to shining sea girlfriends, wives, Dream Hollywood lovers long since dead. All born over oceans kept in hearts and wide eyed night thoughts of teenage soldiers and still ship coffins. Names closest to the delicate door see dawn and dusk sent tropical trade winds that sometimes deaths way the trees dense now, bombs churn soil to rubble. Third and cloaks broken tooth ruins to merge like lost mine temples, obliterated barracks, bombed hospital. The Old Movie Theater Concession Stand awaits moviegoer jostling. Specter's who gather when my sight is turned. Officers quarters hold towed filled craters on loans where children played. Names deeper in the dock begged to be read. To be remembered. Brought to life. They Beckon me. Then need for witness burns my eyes. From Light Lewis Tunnels whispers. I called her echo. Hollow Thud Response. From, some quiet bullet riddled room. Where trapped goes pace and sits at splintered desks. Viewed by some hellish servant, a resident raith. nested and miseries accumulated soup I feel him. Proclaiming on my skin. Unfolding Poised at my sound. He Stalks Samba light in which I stand. The dance of my shadow. Sweat and warm flesh. Mosquitoes stabbed and worn of his yearning to feed in this bloodless place. My veins are ice. Unexpected movement. Is that a rock by the doorways corner. A pythons head. Bovine shape and scale. One of the Oakland Monsters of myth. drips down my spine in curdled moment I imagine gliding tree trunk girth. Scales and sly hypnosis a belly trained each vibration there would be no way to flee. But down the to the dark cold coiled slither up my heels chased into the race wide armed clasp, a cloistered recess of eternal night. Trip and seized embraced in final loving smother. Census burst pulses, pound I. Shudder Fades Contemplation Never. So alone on ground steeped with secrets and deaths every permutation all is possible in such a place demons might reveal a one of many forms, bulging eyes and brisk feet whisked me I push pasta tissue paper door. It's finery immovable through Cobra Graphs swishing though the is still I crouch under heavy bows they creek with serpent ambush on quiet tarmac I breathe. In sight of butter, an peaks, I walked blood stone beach. Black Sand and leaden waters a slick of evening gold brings thoughts of Manila and jagged towers the cut the close horizon.

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Blood on the Tracks Trailer

27 Club

03:55 min | 2 months ago

Blood on the Tracks Trailer

"Phil Spector was a musical genius one of the most successful record producers of all time. He's now sitting behind bars serving a nineteen years to life sentence for murder special agent. Paul Ramon with the Federal Bureau of Investigation Working case number four dash ten deaths seven four one. Nine case subject Specter Philip. This information pretends to the period ending August third nineteen sixty six interview. Subjects Bruce Lenny. Interview Number One Nash. Thirty four deaths six five six deaths six six seven spirit confessional recall number to date January twenty four. Th Two thousand three time not too long ago. When Phil Spector was the most successful creative name music business he produced massive that influenced everyone from the Beatles to the rolling stones. Too Blonde ramones and everyone in between Phil Spector in the music. He created shifted and shaped mirror culture but behind his famous wall of sound. There was darkness violence in an intense inferiority complex that those who knew him and worked with him. We're all too familiar and that led to the senseless murder actress. Lana Clarkson this story told by so called friends. Tribute the body of a forty year. Old Woman was discovered in the home of famed record producer. Phil Spector late. Last night in authorities are calling an apparent homicide. He told me that I married him for his money for his fame. And you know what maybe moments like those when he piled on the anger and the insults? Mama's like those sure. Maybe I did it for the money and the fame and the attention I. I'll say I didn't like what he had become but it's fairly obvious that he had always been that way. The woman actress Lana Clarkson was found in a pool of blood and the entry way to the home dead of a gunshot wound to the head joining us. Bill Wanted Tina to be Phil. Wanted t not to be and he'd get into a new story. I knew how he did it like I said. Gay Recognize Game Draft Specter's incident in accidental suicide and kissed. The gun was a long walk to make to go from such a genius and a front runner and such an inventive producer to a man stuck in the accomplishments of his past. A man who wanted to be admired so bad would literally hold admiration hostage and his own house. Let on the tracks is part true. Crime part historical fiction part spoken word. Lo Fi beat new are brought to you by me. Jake Brennan the host of the award winning music and true crime podcast graceland featuring the fictionalized voices of Lenny. Bruce Respecter I Turner Debbie Harry and more let on the tracks comes at you every Wednesday. A scripted serialized podcast with violent adult themes. It's not for children. Just like Phil Spector. This podcast. Sounds like nothing you've heard before because you can't push the needle into the red without leaving a little blood on the tracks? Let the tracks is produced in partnership with iheartmedia media by Double Elvis in launches Wednesday August twelfth and is available on the IHEART podcast apple podcasts. Over every get your podcasts.

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Thunderball - A Deep Dive - Part 2

Cracking the Code of Spy Movies!

37:30 min | 3 months ago

Thunderball - A Deep Dive - Part 2

"Thunderball has it all from lawsuits, plagiarism murder, misogyny, sharks, underwater battles and nuclear weapons. Let's continue our deep dive in thunderball and see what makes this movie. Hi this is Tom is Dan Sylvestry from spy movie navigator DOT COM TODAY WE'RE GONNA finish up cracking the code of thunderball. We left off part one with bond leaving shrub lands, and Mr Angelo their divall replacement, getting through security at the military base and in the briefing room, and then finally ready to board. The Vulcan NATO flight with the tune nukes aboard. All right so aboard the Volkan? With the two atomic bombs, major divall has to sit at the CO pilot seat. This is where he sounds. The alarm indicates all aboard to the fixing their masks, and then he inserts a poisonous gas canister into the system and kills them all. He's the only one safe, and now he can hijack the plane and bring it to the awaiting Largo. The scene is really well. Well done the authorities see the plane disappear off the radar screen, and derval Mr Angelou is flying the plane low end to a rendezvous point with Largo Largos on his yacht, the disco Volante, flying saucer, waiting for the plane, the land nearby, and he switched you. Just you just slip that in there Dan the flying saucer. Is English translation of the Italian Phrase Disco Volante? Flying Saucers the boat never say never again. Of course, that's true. I like when he switches on the underwater landing lights, and d'urville knows where to land the plane in the ocean. That's kind of cool. Yeah, there really is yeah now. There's a few things about what happens in this scene. You know behind the scenes Ronald you. Dell and his team journey to Royal Airforce Base. Alton where they made a plaster mold of Vulcan bomber. The mold was taken the Bahamas where then the bomber was constructed out of fiberglass and lowered into the Caribbean, a separate Bombay was constructed and photograph from underneath when Bond Explores their record, the bomb the bomber when he's going down looking what's going on? They ended up destroying this mall. That blew it up so that other movies wouldn't use it. Yeah, I think there's some parts underwater. Still writing I think yeah. The frame was there and it's turned into a reef. Yeah, it's been covered over and turned into a reef. Yeah, the other thing about all of this underwater stuff in the the the yacht and everything the disco Allante Largos yacht was made from A. A real hydrofoil joined to a Catamaran and they held it together by two one in slip boats, and then there's the part where it comes apart, and it worked really well on film, but when they were doing the practicing, they had a heck of a time getting into disengaged. They put together. They had like a two or three days. Shoot just to get that separation, right? They got it on the first. That's cool. It's nice when you get on the first take, and I think they paid like half a million bucks or something for that For the yacht that they purchased or something that they had the refit, so it was pretty cool. Also, he landed the plane. It begins to sink in the ocean and you could see the landing gear coming down. People say they want Atlanta you're you actually see the land of you're coming down so that'll sit right on the bottom of the ocean. Apparently, it's relatively shallow water, so here's where thunderball definitely influenced by the silent enemy as the team of Lagos divers. Leave the Disco Valenti heading. Heading towards the sunken plain, their vile is still in the cockpit of course Mr Angelo on oxygen now remember. Mr Angelo new divall replacement threatened specter and demanded more money, two, hundred, fifty, thousand versus one, hundred thousand, so the divers open the cockpit and quickly cut his supply. One thing I love about that. Is You say the divers guy who cuts his line is Largo Largo it is. The bond films it's the henchman who do the dirty deed. He's here Largos in there with the guys, and he actually is the one who cuts their hose, and it's Kinda Blofeld in honor mazzy secret service. He's very active. And for some reason after he cuts his arrows Angelo's seatbelt unbuckle I don't know why or I think it probably was sabotaged a WHO sabotage because Angelo was playing divall, which seats with the CO pilot and the flight. The Coppola had no issue on buckling his belt. That's that is true and about. Sanitized yes, but now it's jammed, so I I? Don't know you drown I I suppose maybe even if he got free, they'd kill him anyway and stuff back in the fall and who knows anyway. Maybe one more fight scene. By doing this also influence from the silent enemy, underwater sleds are used to remove the bounds and take them aboard the disco Alantic so far. Largos plan is working flawlessly and it is a reminder. Don't cross specter. Clearly, we remember the beginning of. As the Specter meeting number nine was eliminated for embezzling, and now they've eliminated Angelo adding an extra one hundred thousand dollars through their coffers unless they were going to kill him, anyway never pay him, but he had the envelope would hundred grand in it. Did divers take that I? Don't remember that you don't see it again, so he gets in trouble once. Yeah, neither bond nor Largo actually take. Argos kills them by cutting the hose. Then largo grabs the box that had the detonators in it now. Maybe the money was rare unless the envelope was in the box. Argo didn't get it then later in the movie when Bond Swims Up to the plane takes Angelo's watch dog tags, but he doesn't grab the envelope. Okay, so either went down with him or somewhere else well, the sleds or the also. You mentioned these sleds, and they were designed by the production design team undercut Adam, so the whole team was involved with this and the two man sled carry. The bounds was actually built by cameraman Jordan Klein. When I had seen this, I just guessed that the technology headed fouled from the silent enemy, which had the real chariots to what we saw thunderball I didn't know prior researching this thing that the sleds were actually designed by Ken Adams Production. Team, and they weren't real things. They were designed for this movie I. Just said assume they had gotten these things from somewhere. They were real. We saw some of those at the bond in motion exhibit in London actually some of the. Freak bringing that's right place by the way binding motion London go there when you can travel again. Thanks okay, so we know that nuclear weapons disappearing really happened in life, and so we can certainly believe this scenario note that the underwater photography here is fantastic, though domain of underwater cameraman Lamar Boren. He's a veteran hunt. If you remember that show from the sixties back, trouble and sponsors, leaving and Lipa is trailing him in the black thunderbird motorcycle is in hot pursuit also behind lipase car so naturally now we're fearing for binds life two vehicles in pursuit. The motorcycle fires a missile at the thunderbird. Kind of reminds me of the spy. WHO LOVED ME IN SARDINIA? Thunder bird blows up. It explodes and crashes off a cliff. The motorcycle fired at the thunderbird intentional Oh. Yeah, number one again don't cross specter number. One was not pleased with countless pay for hiring Angelo. Who portrayed them Bam. You're dead. Only Gripe in this is an amazing stunt with this motorcycle coming in and really Kudos to the stunt and production teams for this one the. Writing thirty miles per hour, and then the motorcyclists speed up to catch this thing. There are a couple of different things that are fairly well known about what happened in the shooting of the scene, but one one of the interesting things was what happened with Bob. Simmons he gets out of this car. nobis on, get off. The thing explodes, and they're like oh my gosh. We just killed their price stunt. Man, he actually them. Yeah, he like. It was a tapping on the shoulder, or whatever, but and they're like. Oh! Where'd you come and see this actually on the extra? That come with the ultimate editions for the James Bond Movies and for thunderball there is one for sure they show the filming of this very seen, and it's great to see and by the way a lot of the extras on the ultimate double seven editions were producing directed by the talented. John Cork and his company clover. Land John was nice enough to leave us a voice message for our first anniversary show. If you recall so a lot of fun stuff, check that out. If you have the ultimate edition so the cycles. Cycles being driven by. We find out Fiona, Volpe. She takes helmet often waves. We're here. There's her hair. A dedicated spectre agent played by John Pollute Oh. Yeah, they actually change Fiorina's last name because of pollutes sees Italian heritage. She was going to be Fiona Kelly. And Luciana did a great job tough and dedicated, no wavering no wavering. Yes, she played that role great as another aside when they cast Claudine OJ. They changed her last name in the film to all to reflect her French heritage so that's great writing and edits. The Specter threat now that Largo has the bombs spectre can deliver its threat to the world, and they send the tape as we listen to it. At my six headquarters with Double-o agents lined up in chairs for the of course. Bond is a little late. And so cool now that we're all here. Take details that they hijack the NATO flight, seven, five nine and demand, hundred pounds, sterling, or they'll blow up being either an English city or US city thunderball is the operation codename, and as the agent open their sealed packets. You see that now there are theories that the thunderball name came maybe from the military and their experience with nuclear tests, and the mushroom cloud that ensues after the bombs blow up and certainly from World War Two experiences of real nukes exploding to end the war that it looked and sounded like a thunderball, so that may be where the name comes from the international powers. Powers of NATO are going to be forced to pay this ransom unless their agents can thwart the plan binding m's office details that he saw dead at shrub lands, so he wants the Bahamas assignment to track down to revolve sister domino of course played by the French actress Claudine Oj three sides here. The kind of cool I liked it to signal that the deal was accepted by NATO forces that would delay the destroying of a city if the ransom was paid, was that the Big Ben was to strike seven times at six PM. The next day that was that was kind of interesting. Okay, so you know me Damn I'm GONNA. Look into this great big Ben ever strikes seven times down. and. It has had some issues with heavy snow. Stopping the chimes it multiple times for the each year, the monarchs life for the funerals of King Edward, the seventh King George the fifth in King George the sixth, and to celebrate the opening of the Thirtieth Olympics however I've not been able to find a record of it having a problem due to an electrical storm in eighteen, ninety eight, as they actually say in you hear a news thing saying that Big Ben Struck seven times last time it did. This was when there was an electrical storm in eighteen nine year I never found anything that ever told me that exists. Thanks for that research. A fun touring the seconds a little tidbit I think is interesting. Here is is correspondent a hat. When he came into the meeting, any hung a on the rack in money pennies office, but when he leaves, they had is gone now. There's a whole story of James Bond. In diamonds are forever is the less bond film where in the gun barrel sequence bond wears a hat, and was the last time in the sequence that was black and white, until of course Casino Royale, two six, which was a brilliant use, a black and white. machen company made the trilby hats, and they're still around today, so does wear hats. Tribe's Strahan's early in the film Dr No from Russia with love, Goldfinger thunderball, other than skiing, and then in gun, barrel sequences, and so on, but when he sets the trilby on the rack thunderball and comes out, and it's gone. Why is that? Does it come back again? I can't remember I know George Lazenby as binding her majesty secret service in the pre title sequence. He's driving and he's got a hat on Roger. Moore was really never seen wearing a formal hat. He enters M's office once with one as a prop and. A nod to the history of binding hangs it on the rack. Timothy Dalton wears the top hat at Felix lighters wedding in licensed to kill. So what was the point that they had disappearing thunderball I think it's a mystery. We researched a little bit here and couldn't find the definitive answer. It's intentional for sure because bond noticed himself in the movie. Is Missing Yeah, it was it was like was a just a continuity error and Sean connery ones go look for the hat wasn't there and they decided to keep it in. It was real really see bond wearing a hat like a trilby again. Do you I don't think in any of the other movies molested bit is was double. o three at the briefing, a woman there were some still shot scene, and there was a woman in that chair. Maybe she was a stand in or maybe double o three was a woman we. We have not seen a woman as a double o agent. Before. Of course we find out and SCAIFE. All the moneypenny was in the field for a while, but that was always an interesting thing and I think maybe in the movie. You can't really see who's in number three, but there are agent type characters played by women in bond movies, but this is one those where you're Kinda. Yeah, but they're not agents, Paul. That's true. That's true. Position Plenty of those all right. All right now we're in the Bahamas. Well, we have loved the exotic locations of bond films from Dr No in Jamaica from Russia's Love, and they stumble gold finger at Fontham blue resort Miami, beach poges golf course in England laserna Switzerland and we're loving the Bahamas thunderball. They just makes you wanna be bond and be. They're very clever way to draw fans and viewers in and to participate. Back when they made this, there was not as much air travel right right, so the the world was bigger, and these places seem so far away in. In this was a way to be exposed to, and it's like Oh. This is the lap of luxury and all of this stuff. And now some of these places are a little more touristy. But when they made these movies thoroughly, only really rich people may not have seen any of this stuff ever in less than a magazine or something. So you're seeing this in the movies live and video was pretty cool, pretty neat so in the Bahamas. Bond finds domino swimming, and then the gorgeous nights seen bond at the casino with five hundred pounds. Pounds to wager shots of Largo at the gambling table with domino and bond joining his brilliant band plays against Largos wits. He quips I thought. I saw the specter of defeat on your shoulder and just love that it just like in your face. Specter Emilio Largo Italian says the bond was trying to put the evil eye on him, and we have a way to deal with that from where I come from, and he holds out one hand with the index finger in his little finger. The others folded back. Yeah, I. It's like the things. and. In in real life, there is a thing in Italy called them a local. That's true evil. And they sell charms for this usually gold fourteen eighteen carat gold with the hand symbol that Largo just gave us this bill. And you wear that on a chain around your neck to ward off evil spirit and the evil I. Have not so. Right so later, and not the restaurant having lunch with domino, and he orders of course Beluga. Caviar and don't perignon fifty five. We learned that Domino Mac Largo in Capri Italy. She talks about her brother. Francois Dervo. They must leave and Largo invites bond to his oceanside villa. Call Myra for lunch. This was actually the real summer home of a Family Nicholas Sullivan. Family from Philadelphia, according to the battle for bond book, the Sullivans rented the place to Eon, and then they stayed, so he expected. Expected them to leave, but they actually stayed for the filming in invited people over to watch the filming of the movie, so they just sit to sit out on the side, Sidamo, cocktail, or three weller, watching filming, going on, it's a beautiful meanwhile back at bonds hotel. He discovers someone is in his room. He traced through a hidden tape recorder in a hollowed out book that this happened. It's also discovering one alarm. Guys is in the shower. You overcome some and send them back to Largo. Tell them the little fish throwback so largo, obviously number two inspector was not happy, and we know that's not a good thing when he's not happy. When Specter not happy well, when line was not happy especially. So he discovered the bond got the better of his guy. And IRA, where Lara has one swimming pool filled with sharks, he has is other goons. Throw this guy into the pool to be by sharks. The part of the scene I love your most is how calm and cool Largo is. Throw the guy. He's walking away, not looking at it and he kisses a specter ring. You've got a lover. It's dedication and it's kind of like in the movie mice by when we talked about people setting something up to blow up and they're walking away. His explosion happens, and they don't even look back. Yeah. There's something about that. That's very popular absolutely, and but this is nineteen sixty five. Cool? All right in Nassau in the Bahamas fans in town with Paula. Caplan played by Martinez Wick, of course from Russia with love fame as Gypsies, Zora, she's bond CIA contact in NASA and Felix lighter is there here played by Rick Van Mutter and pender bonding Felix's Bahama based operative in. They enter building and there there's Q. I like when cues in the field everytime comes on the screen smile because I love I. Love Me, say never again when the new cube from that movie comes in, you still Kinda. Get a smile because it's played totally different. Yeah, so they got a building and there's there's Q. It. He's got a few games of course for bond. The underwater breathing vice when a breather is not available good for about four minutes, a geiger counter camera that takes underwater infrared pictures of safety flair that he can be found with cues amazing, usually anticipating, WanNa know more about this re breather. We talked about that in the podcast episode of the Real, world part one. So in the meantime Specter's doing the demand for three to five CARAT, flawless diamonds, worth one hundred million pounds to be delivered in global coordinates on people of course, did research on this and found out? That coordinates really no sense. I'm surprised I'm Dan. I I look this up. And I'll come marry her to Pella. Go. They mentioned is around. Eleven point two nine North Ninety eight degrees east. Roughly, and it's off the coast of Burma and I'm rounding the latitude and longitude here a little bit the coordinates. They mentioned twenty degrees north and sixty degrees. East is a spot in the Arabian. Sea a little bit east of the island of Mazorra near Omen. Okay, so in other words. It's not anywhere. Close. All right, but if you're just watching this movie. Go. It didn't make any sense. Again influenced by the silent enemy. Diving to inspect the disco Volante Ramada water to look for hatches, etc, listen to the silent enemy podcasts or a lot of connections between silent enemy and Thunderball, as Largos. goons notice bond underwater. They drop grenades. Forget him thinking. There's a good idea you've got a couple of. On board and they won't draw attention to you, but anyway. Nukes for hidden. They weren't on the schools a lot to then what they over in that area? I don't know if they brought him up there yet. Maybe they did I, not sure. You mentioned the silent enemy podcast, and they use these churches to get the cherry outs. They're here in. thunderball used hand grenades. It's the same objective silent enemy. They're using depth charges here. They're using hand grenades. I think the root for these hand. Grenades probably was those depth charges from the silent enemy. We talk a lot about connections between the two movies that podcast, but I just don't think we get that one so I figured I'd throw it in here. Of course bond escapes, and he gets to a road where he's coincidentally picked up by Fiona Volpe. They end up back at the hotel harrowing right in her Mustang. That's a funny say. Yeah. It's a good scene they get. The pictures developed at. Bonn took the disco. Von Say from water, and it shows an underwater. has that leads bond that everybody to believe that this whole operation might be underwater, one including the plane paycheck and sure enough. The Disco Filante was for six hours that night of the Vulcans disappearance. Felix estimates that the disco volante could do total of about ninety miles six hours. The when bond is having lunch at how Myra I liked the little gun routine is amusing. Buying is looking at one largos rifles, and he says the looks more fitting for a woman. Largo says you know much about guns Mr. Bond and bond says no, but I know with. Great stuff. Is actually supposed to be a lot longer. They filmed it longer and they cut the heck out of there, so I'd love to see what they call it. But. The important thing is seen. Is Lago tells bond that the Disco Volante can do almost twenty knots, so assume that it's one thousand nine and a half knots. That's roughly twenty two point. Nine hundred. Twenty. Well because he said it's okay. So I took alpha. So in six hours, the disco Volante can do a total of one hundred and four point six four miles, not ninety as lighter, said okay, maybe lighter knows maybe a little bit more about the disco volunteer. Maybe lighter knows how much fuel the philanthropy can hold in knows based on that. He can only go ninety miles. Maybe lighter could only go about thirteen knots, because that would actually be pretty close to ninety miles. Who knows? Yeah, but bond does gas a lower number when he's with Largo, Palmira and Largo corrects them, and by knows this that it could do twenty almost twenty nights by the time he and lighter are searching for the good at asking questions. Oh, it can do whatever I can remember. The number says fifteen. Oh No, we can do almost twenty nine, so he gets information, so they know. What's the search area they need. Yeah. Yeah, although they're searching a much smaller area because of the ninety mile. From lighter anyway. So by wants to see what's going on Palmira so of course he arranges for a blackout and sneaks into Palmira at night. It's a nice scene. It's a lot of stuff going on there. We won't go into all the details. But luckily has of course emergency generators and the lights go back on. Enough you've ever seen blackouts and other movies have let's see. Diehard is one of the first one to go. Anyway and ends up fighting when Largos guys in the end up in the pool, and Lago has the middle coverage on over, so they can escape and then open the hatches for the sharks ago there. Thank God for Q. The Emergency Breeder Saves the day in Bonn escapes through the hat. He actually went past plexiglass in the pool between the heat him and the shark. Yeah, but I think they said the place didn't go all the way up in the, and he was actually one of the. Four foot section and they didn't tell Sean connery that there was this gap, and of course the shark finds the gap. And goes flying out of this so what you see when he escapes that pool. That was real fear because Sean connery was that wanted to panic that about the sharks in and out like these sharks at all. I'm not I mean. If you remember Dr, no, even the Tarantula. He wouldn't tranche bizarre. Yeah that's true well, a tarantula running up harmless. Well I know, but they were supposed to. That's another story. He gets. He gets back to his hotel and Fiona us in Israel. And she and the larger goons had already captured Paula and bonded founder dead at Palmyra. She took a cyanide capsule so that she wouldn't talk Kinda Sad. She could have been more robust character. I think in the absolutely it that they let her play and wow so anyway, Fiona and bond. Of course they have sex. And then they were to go to the junk anew and will parade in the Bahamas. into one. They are so loud. But, she has she's got different plans for bonds, so as he opens the door course Largos. goons are there and then bond says the Fiona don't think I enjoyed that. I did it for cocaine. Now Hang on me. The book thunderball came out in nineteen sixty one. This movie came out and sixty five Queen Elizabeth became queen in Nineteen fifty two. Children Sang for Queen and country. It seems like an online for me. Just based on the timing in fifty five years later, he would still say for Queen and country. Yeah. That's a good point I. Don't know why he says that you didn't do enough. Research sure checked into and I couldn't find why they would've said King. All right, so you did of course I looked into it. All right, so she delivers one of the best lines I think in any bond movie and it was something like you make love to a woman. This is talking to ban you make love to a woman and she turns to the site of right, didn't virtue but Nashville. This is great because we've all seen this in all the bond films up to this point where the bad woman turns good, and whatever it happens all the time, but not this time, and she never does waiver. She is right on the button with this. When she doesn't waver, she doesn't fall for it. She doesn't turn virtue and goodness so I love it now as a little sidebar again. The junk canoe is a real parade and we know from the film that the action is taking place in make. It was filmed actually in April. Okay get in the movie. It's I think may twenty seven or something where the threat that's going on with a nuclear weapons. The junker new parade occurs twice a year on December twenty six boxing day and January first. Anyway. They wanted to get that in this movie and they did. The discussion again in the battle for the more about how this was done when they were island, they needed extras for the junk new the scenes at the Cafe Martinique in the Kiss Kiss Club. They needed extras for that. Then you're cubby Broccoli and Harry Saltzman. You're not going to pay for those extra. So they actually worked with the NASA tourist board and they said okay. We're GONNA. Donate money to the Red Cross and the Group of Nassau Social. Elite Cayman these were real. Just Nassau people came in to portray themselves for two all night party. Man Productions through the bucket of caviar as well several cases of champagne now for they used some of these people in the junk new seen remembered an productions. Put this chunk new on. They said we want to junk in new on and off date. We're not doing too when you guys normally do it. And the community really coulter on this I. Love the way they did this. Paid Prizes for the best costume for the junk new, and the locals really have fun with this thing during the chasers, a yellow sign, one point, and it says Sydney shoe repairs, and just beyond this as a crew of people and they're wearing double o seven hats at the. You really have to look for it because there's so much going on, you'll miss. Pointer for you is look for the dog peeing. There's actually right in the scene. This dog that decides to urinate. It was originally cut by Peter Hunt and cubby and Harry said No. Keep it in the film. Does it was a fun scene. All so they're in the car. And Bond escapes and issued Adam, and he's injured in the lower left leg. He patches it up in a bathroom and then goes to the kids. which was a beautiful outdoor bar and restaurant with music, and all that he grabbed a woman dance with Fiona finds him and cuts. In course they've been after him of course at the junk new because he kind kinda lost them their. Other large guys are hiding behind the curtain behind the ban. Targeting bond would epistle eventually they shoot, but bond whips her around Fiona. And his timing is impeccable. Is His finger over the bullet hole and everything else with the blood. Doesn't and the bull through? Thank God, it was a little pistols or something I don't know. But of course he escapes, and now he's in the helicopter with Felix trying to find the plane, and he finds he dives finds the fake derval with the real devolves military tag and watch, and he removes them, and he finds no problems on the plane. Now, he can get domino on his side convincing her. That Largo had killed her brother. donohoe is. She plays his niece, but really is his mistress. Largos mistress. She's with them all the time, so if band can get hurt, she'd be good one turn. He couldn't Fiona. Yeah. Never lagers preparing his frogmen to retrieve the bombs either turn them in for the ransom. If it's paid Orton navigate somewhere to blow up a city man, the target seems to be Miami. Then bind in disguise is one of Largos divers. But again they discover him and retrieve the bombs from a special dot org cave, and they leave behind in their bonds. In Houdini. And uses the flair there Q. Made for them and Felix find some with the elegant always with the right. Exactly the right time. He's carry this in your pocket. So now Felix and bond rally the troops. Their troops and the drop is made their divers, and the great underwater fight ensues again. Movie since the Nineteen, fifty-eight the silent enemy in one thousand nine sixty five thunderball that had underwater fights. Yeah, however, I can think of one that preceded silent enemy with tie back to thunderball, namely creature from the Black Lagoon. That movie had Rico Brown and movie acting swimming as the Gilman for the scenes that were underwater in thunderball. He was the second unit director for the underwater sequences. He directed the underwater scenes in never say never again, so these guys who do it. All of a sudden water seem to do it pretty much everywhere. It's a specialty, so binding crew of course saved the day in the final scene. The final fight is aboard the disco Volante because Largo escaped and got back to his yacht. Bond gets aboard to Domino's there and the battle begins Largos about to shoot bond bond about the. Teas. When you see Largo grimace. Any falls over the controls with a spear in his back shot by domino. Who Yeah! They dive overboard. Yacht crashes in boom. That's the end of the threat ended the movie number two. Is Not just the boom. Well, it wasn't Oklahoma. Actually and we'll talk about Colonel Russian in a minute. But he got the fuel in John Deere's who wanted Academy Award for. The work you did on this, he he didn't know how explosive stuff when it was some kind of experimental rocket, fuel or something like that, and so Steve puts all over the boat. They decided to really blow up this boat so the thing they put together with the two halves by these two bolts. He's Dowse it with all his fuel. They. Set it off the explosion so big. They look and boats just gone. And they're like what happened to this boat and again. Robert Sellers describes this really well the battle for mind. He says they look up and they see those black dot in certain. Parts from the boat come falling down out of the sky. This thing it just like shot up into the air. And so they had to deal with the break coming down, but fascinating and there's. To downtown where they did the junk anew. And the windows were all blown out, and that was thirty miles away. It was one of the most biggest explosions ever for a movie system amazing. So cool, little facts and stuff like that. That are in the movie that you say okay. That's that's kind of neat like the. Movie ends with bond and Domino together, and they get lifted up with that hawk. And that's actually a real thing. A Colonel Russian helped them get a thing. Yeah I think it was like a ninety thousand bucks. He got waived or something. Try to do that or something exactly a lot of money. He got for nothing. Yeah, also you remember Goldfinger in in when we talk about that in our podcasts on Goldfinger that Goldfinger always wore something gold in the movie well in Thunderball if you notice domino, and if he know the game domino, which a little black cubes or rectangles with the white dots on them, you'll notice that domino is almost always wearing something black, and you told me that and I was there. And I'm like I didn't catch Goldfinger initially, and I didn't catch it here, but you've caught him in both of them. And I kind of look for that now. They're going to do. Like Domino of course you immediately think of the game so good catch. Let's why you Kinda. Keep keep an eye out for that. All the other things Claudine OJ. and Adolfo Celli were dubbed because they both spoke English. They didn't think that would be good enough for that, and so on I kinda I guess you could understand that. Literally! No Pun intended if you do that, but they were. They were terrific and I. Whoever dubbed him? I think they're they're actually. Great job. Yeah and again love that Fiona Luciana pollute see never turned from Specter and never went to the gooden in an just an bond couldn't flip so I like that in this, and so I said we were going to mention Colonel Russian. Meddling them briefly here because we talked about him a little bit in from Russia with love and Goldfinger, he's actually was a military guy who helped out on numerous bond movies, including getting things like the Skyhook in this movie, and the and the fuel that we talked about before in Goldfinger. There's actually a specific reference that the crew does during the movie that you're actually see his name, which is kind of fun, so this is a film with a lot of underwater war and the scene on Largo. Largo kills Angelo the diver Courtney Browne. He was a member of Ivan tors crew. He was doubling as the actor according to diving specialists, underwater cameraman engineered Jordan client. Who's also the guy who did some work on the sleds? His Air Hose was supposed to be actually cut and diver was supposed to have a canister of air to live off of when you when this thing is cut. However he drop this bottle and nearly drowned before they could come save him, and he ended up in hospital from. So he ends up in the house. He goes back to work. And later in the film is another big problem. There's the scene in Bonn flicks the switch on that backpack thing he had underwater and he fires that explosives beer at the divor-. Well, that was corey around Brown again. He was given a piece of explosive can place on the outside of his wetsuit when the spear was fired, and it was done on a line was designed to strike this thing and create underwater explosive. Unfortunately they put this thing under his suit instead of outside of his suit. Did he do it or? People thing ended up under his soon. Setup outside it's. Hard suit and again he back in the hospital. I mean this poor guy. What a tough movie for Courtney! Browne yeah. Well, that's a wrap that concludes our treatment of Thunder Ball. Dance less. And Tom Casado and our discussion on the movie. Thunderball is done. Thanks for joining us. We really appreciate you listening. Let us know what you think and please subscribe to our show cracking the code of spy movies and tell your friends about it, too. We appreciate that thanks for listening.

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"This is digital story podcast number six seven seven March fifth two thousand nineteen today's theme as specter an amazing iphone app. I'm Derek story. There are moments when artificial intelligence seem to by the laws of physics after testing the Iowa sac spector, I think capturing motion will forever be changed. The software may also drive the final coffin nail for tripods. And virtually every other camera support we once lugged around not to mention neutral density filters sound crazies say tune in and find out that it's real it's right now, and it's only three dollars. So let me give you a little background on. How I came across spector. I spend a lot of time hanging around Santa Rosa creek this time of year because it is so exciting once the rains really start into Noma county. This creek goes from a little nice lazy creek to whitewater rafting sort of river. I mean, it is beautiful and the way that runs as it has this nice channel that runs in that's aligned with rocks and trees, and you know, all sorts of really beautiful elements in on top of that. We have this bike path that is elevated that also runs alongside the creek is called prince memorial Greenway. So you can go out, and you can ride your bike in just has us. Nice long ride along the creek itself in really enjoy all the scenery and all the positive ions that are coming from this rushing water. It is real. Really fun. Now, of course, when I do this get a little bit of exercise or I'm running an errand. I want to have my cameras with me in case, some good picture opportunities present themselves this running water thing, especially with the landscape. You know that the creek has around it really can be it can make for some interesting Taga fy for sure the problem is this is not the kind of situation where I wanna lug a tripod. I don't want neutral density filters. I don't wanna big rig, and I really don't want to spend the time setting up a tripod and doing all that kind of stuff. Those of you that ride bicycles will be able to relate to this. You know when you're on a bike yet. It's okay to stop in take picture, but you really don't want to get off the bike. You really don't want to do this whole scene and then get back on the bike because part of writing a bike is getting in the mode to ride the bike. So tripods and bikes really don't mix. They don't go together at all. And it's been a little bit of a conundrum for me because the scenery with his rushing waters. Absolutely fantastic. And I go, okay. How do I handle this? So my solution up until this point has been to use my iphone ten with alive photos now life photos has feature when you open up the file on a photos for MAC OS. You can convert a live photos file to a long exposure image in an actually works. Pretty well. Now the way life is works for those of you that don't have iphones or photos or MAC OS or any of that kind of stuff is that when you take the picture it records a little video clip. Now, it only shows you the still shot record this little video clip. And it hangs onto that file that files associated with the J pick. Then when you open that. File combination up in photos for MAC OS, you can do editing things with it. You can edit the life Oto, you know, you can take out little bits or you can move the key frame to another frame or you can convert the whole clip two along exposure using a little bit of AI, and it's actually not bad. And that's what I've been doing actually published some shots recently doing that very trick. Of course, this was before I had specter. So then I find out about this app called spectre by the same folks who created a very nice photo app called Halid. And how it is this triffid, very smart. Intelligent, beautiful. You I federal app that allows you to really take control of your iphone camera will these same folks. Create a spectre and specter takes things a few steps further. This is a three dollar iphone app. At least that's how much I pay to ninety nine for it just recently, and it does three major things. First of all does these along exposures for soft water shots. Waterfalls rivers all that kind of stuff. Second it can create this streaming lights sort of shot. Like, for instance, cars on a highway at night, you know, those sort of shots is really fun to get. Up high in an urban environment at twilight when cars and busses and stuff are driving around in. You do these long exposures Olympics cameras. Do these very well life cop. You know, these long streaming shots, you know, mixed in with all the city lights and everything well specter does this as well, except you don't need a tripod. He can hold his hold the iphone in your hand. Just like he can for the soft water shots. And then the third thing that it does is that you can make people disappear from crowded locations. So for instance, let's say that you're at a terse spot. And so you take, you know, fire up specter, and you take a shot, and I'll explain more. What that is in a moment, you take shot, and you'll get whatever it is the monument, but there won't be any people there. They're all gone. So it does these three major things does a few other little goodies to. But these are these are the three. Biggies? Okay before you get too excited or or two disappointed. I should tell you the compatibility for this app. It works on iphone six and newer in. Requires I less eleven and up. However, Specter's smart automatic scene detection requires less twelve and the based stabilization features are only available on devices with a neural engine in that's phone eight or later, and then is the key feature. So even though in a work on I phoned six really in all honesty to get out of it. What I'm talking about in this show, you need iphone eight or later on the six and the iphone six plus it also cashiers at a lower resolution one of the things that does very well on my iphone ten is that it captures these amazing shots at full resolution. So I don't have to give up any pixels or not sampled down or. Anything like that the shots? The J Pegues. I get from specter are the same size same resolution that I get a from my camera on the iphone ten in fact, what's really cool compared to a life Ota shot because life otas is actually a video. The file sizes are about half as much as the life Ota shot. So it saves a little bit on space. If you read, you know, if you get into the under the hood specs on this thing, these guys really understand how I phoned photography works. And they are leveraging every bit of technology machine learning, you know, all the the core technologies that they can to create not only the effects that we're talking about. But really good image quality. And that was the first thing that I realized was different about this. So of course, when I'm testing this. I shoot a scene, and I do life otas version of it and converted to long exposure. And then I shoot it with spector. And then I compare the same scene from both of these different apps the specter images just more photographic it. Just looks better. Just it just feels better just has a quality about it that the live photos version doesn't have. So they're doing a lot of stuff in addition to the effects to just provide really good imaging with his two dollar and ninety nine cent app. Okay. So the interesting thing is though that these are still basically live photos files. So for instance, if you go into photos for MAC OS assay use that for your iphone shots, you know, there's a media folder there. And they have all these different types of time lapses, and you know, life does and all that kind of stuff the specter shots will be in the album for life otas, along with the regular life at us shots that you've captured before the thing is if you go to the the play them, for instance, with life otas in photos for MAC OS, if you push the play button, you get this little short video Specter's a little different at this point. It's not really recording a video in fact. Well, let me let me tell you what they say is going on here. Okay. So here's what they say. Specter's intelligent computational shudder takes hundreds of shots over the span of a few seconds in says them in an accompanying life Oto that means you can pick a different frame as your photo apply. Iphoto effects and even use the long exposure as a live wallpaper. So you know, they they wrap it in the life otas container. So that you still can do all the life stuff. Specter's packed with powerful technology from the team that brought you Howlett from machine learning based scene detection to computer vision, aided image stabilization specter is jam full of impressive technologies to get the best possible image. And there really is a lot going into the here. You know, we've talked about computational photography before on this show. This is computational photography again. Okay. The stuff that is doing is a lot of lines of code that result in really beautiful pictures that being said this app is not perfect. Okay. And you know, there are some reviews on the itin site are glowing. And I think. Some of that is before they did the bug fixes the only bug that. I noticed the only artifact is that on some of my shots. I would get a little bit of blurred banding at the very top or at the very bottom. Now in terms of amount of image space that this took up we're talking about less than five percent near the top of the bomb. So I would just crop it out when did show up and it only showed up every now. And then what it did show me is that there's a lot of stuff going on for this software to produce that image. And sometimes, you know, things get a little catty won't us. And every now, and then you will see that artifact the good thing about it. At least every time that I see it which has been about three times. Now is that it was either on the very top of the very bottom. So it was easy to get rid of. Thank goodness. It isn't in the middle of the shot. When it does happen. Now. The other thing I will say. Is that when I do these images with this app? I'm usually taking two or three anyway because there is a bit of an art to using it. So the way that works is that you get the set how long the exposure is going to be so starts at three seconds. I believe and then it goes the five seven, and I believe it goes up to nine seconds. Right. I mean, yes us crazy. Right. For us Tigers. Yeah. I'm holding my camera for a three second exposure or a nine second exposure. But that's what it does. So what you do. Is you line up the shot with the phone on the screen, and you choose okay what I want? Now. Most of the time. Three seconds worked fantastic for me. I did try the longer exposures, and I really didn't see any additional benefit. So I tend to keep them at three seconds. So all right. So you make sure that says. Yup. And then you know, you tap the shutter, and it starts making the exposure. What it does is? It also has another little icon on the screen that shows you how stable you're holding the camera and is really great. It's like a super advanced bubble level or something like that. So you can really watch. So what I do is I've already lined up the shots. I'm not looking at the scene anymore. What I'm looking at is that little bubble level on the screen, and then how much more exposures left, and then I'm holding it as steady as I can during that exposure when I did that it worked great. I mean it worked I didn't notice any difference for me hand holding this thing, then, you know, setting my iphone on a poster something and doing the exposure, I sort of felt like I got better exposures with just a hand held rather than setting the phone down on something. And maybe I still need to play with us a bit. More. But you hold that thing as steadies you can. And I love having the little icon that shows you exactly what's going on with that. And then you make a three second exposure, you make up five second exposure what it's doing at that point is shooting hundreds of shots hundreds of shots in that timeframe, but a little really fast, and then it uses the, you know, the dance processors in these devices, and these smart algorithms to create the images, you know, where it just draws from all these images, and for instance, on the shots that I the series. I just did a Santa Rosa creek. So the rocks are sharp and the trees are sharp and all that stuff is sharp. And then I had this beautiful flowing water. And the thing that I like about flowing water in rivers and streams is that you get these patterns from the flowing water that you might not even notice. In live time in real time. But when does the long exposure go, wow, that is really an elegant beautiful pattern that nature is created there and the long exposures help you see that. Now, I also would switch over to my regular iphone camera and do regular shots because you know, the long exposure isn't always the best shot, although. Lately. Most of the time it has been. But I I mean sure there are times where it isn't. You know, the best shot, but I can take you know, regular shots as well. You know to switch to a different app, you know? And this is just one of the functions of it. You know, the erasing people is really nice as the streaming lights. So this is really an interesting application, and you know, when we talk about the beauty of of computational photography and all the, you know, the things that come out of it. This allows me if I wanted to just have my iphone ten in my pocket. Get on my bike. Take a nice ride not worry about schlepping a lot of stuff around. If I see an interesting stream shot or river shot or something lake shot ocean, shot whatever wherever happened to be the only shoot the standard shot. I can also use these different apps to shoot a raw shot. And then I can also use spectre to take a really beautiful long exposure shot that is very elegant. And I just think that it is very nice having this option when I pick so people on these shots. They are not as high quality as something that I would capture with a micro for third sensor, or, you know, APS sensor in terms that if I do set up the tripod if I do put on the filters if I do everything, right? Have that nice big sensor, and that very smart pipeline for whatever that camera is. Yes. In the end, a magnified version of those kind of shots will outperform what's hand-held was specter. Absolutely. However when I look at the specter shots on my MAC book pro which has a retina display, really good display. I have to say they hold up very very well. Very well. So I was just kidding. Earlier about getting rid of the tripods neutral density filters. Of course, I'm not going to do that. But the thing that I really like about photography right now is that before before all of this. If I wanted that type of shot at the center, Rosa creek, I would have to take a tripod, and I probably would have to take a neutral density filter now, I don't have to I have the option to bring a camera with a larger sensor and that gear or have the option to go just with the smartphone. And that's what this is about to me. It's not about getting rid of the other cameras or any of that stuff. It's about having these wonderful options that just give me the freedom to do quality photography, regardless of what I want to carry at any given moment the application is called specter as S P E C T R E S P E C. C T R E it's in the items apps store, two dollars ninety nine cents very easy to use. And I highly recommend it. If you like taking any of these types of shots, I've been talking about with the streaming water the streaming lights or just getting rid of people. When they're mucking up your your travel shots works. Great for all three of those. I highly recommend it. Olympus says that the own in five Mark three is coming. So this is an interview that was conducted by imaging resource dot com at the big trade show going on Japan, a CPA plus two thousand nineteen and they cornered a high-ranking Olympics official and ask them about all sorts of stuff and about a third of the way through the interview they ask this question. And what I wanna do is read you a little bit of the interview because I think it's pretty fun. So they start out by going. Okay. The next one this is imaging resource. The next one is a very important question. I think because we've had a great deal of interest and concern expressed by readers, and they put there's laughter in there. So everyone knows you know, what's coming, and they go on to say imaging resource that the article got more reader response and reaction than anything that we've written in the last five years and. Olympic cisco's. Wow. Okay. Imaging resource continues. So yeah, what is going on with your pro Sumer cameras? It feels a little bit. Like, the middle has been abandoned that you have the EM ten Mark three and you have the EM one series. And I don't know. I'll just leave it at that. And ask you what you can tell us or what you can say. So Olympics starts right out by saying while we can't give you details for future products. We will continue with current product lineup strategy with successor models, as you know, EM five line was the first own MD series. And it is important to the lineup for mid range users that would express the strength of the Olympic system. We can reassure you that we plan to introduce a successor model engine resource they to just confirm this. So there is one coming say Olympus says yes. It's really clear your influence on others. This is the Olympics talking because this morning also we were asked the same question based on your article so imaging resource than says, I think it's a big problem because existing EM five owners. Maybe they're okay still, but someone who wants to buy into that part of the line. They don't wanna buy EM five Mark to because they know something must be coming on the other hand some of the readers responded. Oh, I gave up waiting. I'm gonna go with some other manufacturer now. Okay. So then Olympics goes. Yeah. From that sense. I think thank you for your article. It is very good timing to say something from our side. Our message is that the existing lineup. We should continue with the successor model that is our message and then imaging resource goes. And I guess it would make sense that it would be soon because it's been a long time and the EM one x is now out. So then just put a wrap on this. Olympics. Does have kind of some statement here. Very good going forward. We will continue to communicate to users from entry users to professionals that the three core strengths of Olympus brand are compact and lightweight high resolution lenses and strong image stabilization, and then they start to kind of wander off. And so that's all good. And I I have the link in the show notes. So you can go over to the article if you wish but the bottom line here is that Olympics says that the EM five Mark to is not the last of the line. And there will be a Mark three. And it sounds like I could be wrong. But it might be the next camera that we see from. By the quick workshop update. And I'm doing this now as a nice segue, two hours just talking about the EM five Mark to and possibly Mark three and the Joshua tree workshop, which is coming up in just a week. Yeah. I'm so excited. We will have the Olympics. Oh, MD EM one x to work with at the event. Yes. So workshop participants and the workshop facilitator, we will be sharing this Olympics EM one x everyone a chance to take a look at it. Get their hands on it. But their lenses on it and take some pictures. I'm really excited about that. We're going to be able to experience this latest technology and the beautiful high desert. Yes. So I'm sure you're going to see some shots from Joshua tree shot with that camera be sure to share them. And by the way, speaking of pictures, I forgot. To mention it in the in the first story that if you go to the show notes, I always have to mention if you go to the show notes, I have pictures shot with specter that you can look at and they're linked over to the flicker site. So he can get nice. Nice good look at them. But I put three specter shots on there. So you can see you know, how cool that software works as well. And of course, when we do our shooting from Joshua tree. We'll be sharing shots from that. As well. 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Crossover Week: Mythical Monsters (The Grim Reaper)

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Crossover Week: Mythical Monsters (The Grim Reaper)

"Hi Listeners like you were deeply saddened and concerned by the spread of Kovic. Nineteen because of this. Podcast has decided to temporarily halt recording this week. We policies for interrupting. You're listening experience but we feel bad. It's a necessary action to ensure the safety of our hosts and staff. Look this week's episode. It is my pleasure to introduce you to a fantastic episode on the podcast series mythical monsters so y mythical monsters well here's a couple of reasons you might enjoy it. I is that it's hosted by my good friend and frequent collaborator Vanessa. Richardson she's such a great storyteller. Second is that like haunted places mythical monsters features plenty of spooky legends and Weird Histories more than you might think. And there's no greater way to prove this to you than with the episode. You're about to hear on the grim reaper. If you enjoyed this episode in one here more tales mythologies greatest foils follow the podcast series mythical monsters on spotify new episodes premiere every Monday listened free on spotify. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Please note the story. You're about to hear is not a direct telling of any single myth about the grim reaper. Today's episode combines elements from a number of legends and stories about this iconic personification of death for dramatic effect. Isabel felt her brother's forehead and frowned. Only two days ago. Michael had been a healthy nine year old now. He lays shivering on the straw hat in the small thatched roof house. They shared barely able to lift himself to eat his eyes were red his skin. Pale and clammy except when it flared with heat. The tips of his fingers and nose were already starting to turn black. She knew all too well what would happen next. The plague had already taken both her parents. Her older brothers John and Alrich and Baby Mary at only twelve Isabel had been left alone to take care of Michael and as long as his heart was still beating. That was what she was going to do. He Croaked for Water and Isabel reached for the bucket. She froze she. Saw The blood flecked. Vomit splattered along the rim. She pushed it away with her foot and told Michael she would be right back. Isabel dragged the stool to the kitchen cabinet and climbed onto it standing on her tiptoes toes. She could still barely reach the handle of her mother's prized white pitcher. Her fingers had just wrapped around the handle when she heard it through the window. A horse drawn cart. It came to a stop in front of her house. A moment later there was a knock at the door. Isabel cursed under her breath and hopped down from the stool she'd all but forgotten that the tax collector was do not that it would have mattered. She had nothing to pay him well if he wanted to throw them out in the street now while her brother was on his deathbed let him try. Anger burned in her stomach. As she wrenched open the door a figure towered above her draped in Black. Isabelle's is traveled up the cloak to its hooded head peering into the dark abyss of the figures cowl. She could just make out the gleam of ivory bone a toothy. Grinning smile hollow is the figure extended a skeletal hand demanding. It's do welcome to mythical monsters. Apar- cast original. I'm Vanessa Richardson. Every week we dive into history's most legendary monsters. In telling the stories of their origins we hope to shed light on some truths hidden behind the creation of these beasts where they come from what they symbolize and how they expose some of humanity's greatest fears you can find episodes of mythical monsters and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Or Wherever. You listen to podcasts to stream mythical monsters for free on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar at podcast. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network? Today's episode is part of our series on Halloween. Where we delve into the fascinating. Traditions behind the world's scariest holiday if you enjoy this episode of mythical monsters be sure to check out the rest of the podcast presents. Halloween feed on spotify. Today we're discussing grim reaper. This ghoulish personification of death is often depicted as a scythe wielding specter draped in hooded black robes. He stocks the world. Collecting the souls of the recently departed. We meet him only once but we know him. At a glance in the Western world the ghoulish image of a figure in a hooded black cloak or monk's robes wielding a two-handed size has become virtually synonymous with death whether the face beneath his cowl. Is that of a vacant human skull a ghostly Pale man or an empty void makes no difference for many. The grim reaper has become so ingrained in our collective unconscious that it's difficult to remember a time before we knew his name but as infamous and iconic as this figure is. His origins sometimes seem as mysterious and unknowable. As death itself one might even assume that he's always been with us a constant companion to humanity since Adam and Eve left the garden of Eden. But at least compared to his mythical brethren the modern incarnation of the grim. Reaper is relatively young. That's not to say that. Anthropomorphized of death is a fresh idea far from it but while countless ancient cultures have their own image of death for the most part these characters were decidedly less grim than the reaper. We know today. The ancient Greeks depicted death as thanatos a young handsome God who was the son of Knicks Goddess of night while he was given the Dour task of shepherding. The dead into the underworld Santos's touch was said to be as gentle as that of his brother. Hip Nas the God of sleep. This depiction indicates a perception of death as a natural part of life not to be feared but embraced the image of death in. Norse Pantheon is less peaceful but nevertheless positive. The beautiful Vaccari or choosers of the slain soar over the battlefield on winged horses selecting which of the fighting warriors will die afterward. The bravest are carried Valhalla. The Great Hall of Odin where they feast each night and fight in glorious battles each day. The Abraham ACC- religions described the angel of death alternatively known as the angel of the Lord or destroyer Angel in the book of Exodus. He brings the tenth plague of Egypt. Slaying the first born of every Egyptian household while passing over the homes of their Israelite slaves here death becomes a frightening symbol of the awesome and terrible power of God like the biblical Angel of death. The grim reaper does not choose his victims nor does he judge their actions in life he is but a tool a servant to a higher purpose completing his duties with the steady unwavering determination of time itself. Isabel stared up in shock at the dark shrouded figure as it raised its bony white hand to beckon her forward. She stumbled backward into the house realizing too late that she should have tried to shut the door instead. The wraith was already stooping through the doorway as it stepped inside. The hovel seemed to stretch to allow its impossibly tall frame the room darkened as it glided toward Isabelle one reaching arms still stretched out before it. The other grasped the poll of two handed side. It's long wicked. Blade glinting in the dim light every fiber of Isabel screamed run but she was the only thing that stood between the wraith and her nine year old brother before she knew what was happening. She found herself screaming with more ferocity than she'd known she. Possessed FLEX OF SPIT. Flew into the wraiths cowl as she told it in no uncertain terms that Michael would not be going anywhere today. The wraith stopped Isabel. Couldn't see anything but darkness beneath its hood but she nevertheless had the distinct impression that it was confused then it lifted its right arm again one finger extending to point at something beyond her very slowly. Isabel turned in the direction. It had indicated. If she'd had any breath remaining it would have caught in her throat as she stared at the kitchen floor. Isabelle's lifeless body lay beside the stool neck twisted in an impossible angle shards of her mother's shattered white pitcher lay around her. The wraith wasn't here from Michael. It was here for her. By the Middle Ages. The Roman Catholic Church was the dominant force in Europe and the angel of death had become a well known character to the common people but before long another enemy smaller than a grain of rice would change the continent forever. Its name was your Siniya Pestis. The bubonic plague. This bacterium is carried primarily in rats but transfers easily to human hosts via fleas within a week of contraction. Pus filled swellings known as bugles cover. The victim's skin particularly around the armpits and groin occasionally bursting to spread infected blood to anyone who comes in contact with it from thirteen. Forty six to thirteen fifty. Three Europe was ravaged by a cascading series of Vanek plague outbreaks known as the black death the plague spread across the continent with shocking speed almost overnight previously lively streets became littered with bodies. Local governments struggled to dig mass graves fast enough to fill the demand. It's estimated that. The outbreak claimed fifty million lives in Europe alone. Approximately sixty percent of Europe's entire population in the matter of a decade. The common people's relationship with death had forever changed. It became at once familiar and terrifying. While the prospect of a peaceful death became a fantasy. It was in this morbid setting that the grim reaper was born Isabelle winced as the impact of yet another pothole sent shockwaves through deaths rickety wooden cart. It was even less comfortable than she thought it would be when he pointed for her to climb in the back. It didn't help that. The card was full to bursting a dozen shades. The souls of the recent dead lay in a haphazard pile aside from being a bit Paler and translucent. They appeared just as they had in the moment of death. Many of the shades were covered in raw red boils their fingers and noses blackened with plague a few let out occasional moans of discomfort but most were as silent and Immobile as Isabel assumed their bodies were wherever they were. She'd been forced to leave her behind on the kitchen floor broken neck and all death had allowed her only enough time to kiss. Michael on the forehead. She hated to think of her brother. Back there all alone with his pain. He wouldn't last long without someone to take care of him. The card came to an abrupt. Stop sending the dead rolling over into one. Another Isabel hollered in protest as she took an elbow to the I fed up. She grabbed a wooden slat in one hand and the legs of a shade in the other and started to pull herself through the pile of shades. Quit wiggling his the shade of an old man. Isabel ignored him and kept going. Swollen bows of blood and pus burst against her skin as she fought her way out of the tangled mass of limbs at long last. She prided herself free and hopped down from the cart. Just in time to see the reaper disappear into a nearby house. Scythe in hand. Isabel made her way around the cart. Grateful for the opportunity to stretch her legs. It was an unusually warm day and might have been quite enjoyable. Were it not for the stench of corpses. That permeated the city down the road. She could see a couple piled in a gutter. A looking shade sat in the mud beside them. No doubt they'd be picking him up. Next as Isabelle reached the front of the cart. Her attention shifted to the four enormous black draught. Horses lashed to it. The horse in the front watched her closely as she approached but he didn't protest as she reached up to stroke his powerful neck. The door of the nearest house swung open and the wraith emerged followed by the shade of an elderly woman. Once the woman had successfully pulled herself into the back of the cart the wraith headed to the front. He had just climbed into the driver's seat when he noticed Isabel staring up at him from the ground he immediately pointed to the back. Isabel protested. There's no room back there and the carts slower than I am anyway. Please let me walk up here with the horses. My father was a stable hand so I know my way around them. I won't make any trouble I promise. The rates stared down at her for another moment then gave an almost imperceptible. Shrug and seized. The reins Isabel took this as permission to do as she pleased. She had to walk fast to keep pace with the horses but it was far better than the back of the cart and she enjoyed the feeling of the cool mud squelching between her translucent toes they stopped to pick up the man waiting in the gutter and then a few houses down to collect a family of six who had all expired on the same morning. Next came a blacksmith. Then a cobbler's son and then a magistrate's mother young and old rich and poor. They climbed one by one into the back of the hooded figures cart. Eventually they reached the edge of town but the driver kept going soon. The muddy streets gave way to less traveled country roads and then the roads disappeared altogether by the time night fell. They were deep into a dark forest. Isabelle's legs were now exhausted and her feet smarted with the pain of countless blisters. For a moment she wondered if she made a mistake in asking to walk alongside the cart but one look at the mass of bodies piled in the back convinced her to keep going she would walk to the ends of the Earth before letting herself get tangled up in that laud again. Isabelle frowned as the sounds of revelry and merrymaking wafted over the forest peering through the trees. She could just make out the glow of a campfire as they neared it. The Silhouette of a pavilion came into view. A dozen or more men were crowded around a table beneath it laughing boisterously as they toasted one another. It was a hunting party. Isabelle's eyes widened with awe as she took in the sumptuous feast spread out along the table she watched as the men tore into roast pheasant and huge meat pies and guzzled down gourds of AOL every bite that disappeared down. Their throats. Looked like it would have been enough to sustain her and Michael for a full day. The low simmering fire of rage was alight once more just a few miles away. Thousands of people were in anguish and hear these noblemen were eating and drinking themselves to death. A smile spread across Isabelle's face as she remembered the grim driver of the cart. Which had now come to a stop beside her. The fact that they were here meant that one of these men was about to die and for the first time all day. Isabel was going to enjoy watching it happen. Coming up. Death Evens the scales now back to the story. After a busy day spent collecting victims of the bubonic plague death arrived at the opulent camp of a hunting party deep within a forest. He sat in his rickety cart at the perimeter of the camp watching and waiting in one hand he grasped the doublehanded side the tool he had been given to reap the souls of the living in the other. He held the HOURGLASS. The sands cascaded from top to bottom as steady as time itself and for one soul at the camp time was almost up in Britney. Wales Cornwall and parts of Ireland. There exists an older personification of death with some striking similarities to the grim reaper. He's known as the on coup and it said that when he comes he does not leave empty handed. The on cou is a gaunt sometimes. Decrepit old man with greasy tangles of long white hair. He wears a black cloak with a high collar and a wide brimmed hat that hides his haggard features until his neck pivots around three hundred sixty degrees to stare at. You like an owl. A look that means you have surely died. He drives a black carriage drawn by four large black horses and is sometimes accompanied by two ghosts on foot. Interestingly this version of death is not a singular figure but a role that's transferred from one person to the next in some parts of Brittany. It said that every parish has its own coup and that he's the spirit of the last person to die each year. One old fairy story explains the origins of the Oncu. It begins with a cruel prince and a lively hunting parties expedition to a dark forest. Prince callum drained the last mouthful of AOL from his goblet turning it over to demonstrate that it was empty. This elicit a roar of raucous applause from the crowd of men gathered around the table. It also inspired his cousin and Vassal Agri to slap him on the back with such force that callum spewed the mouthful of Ale out onto his plate. Callum wiped his mouth while the men laughed and applauded even louder than before. Still Glaring Daggers. At Agri the prince announced that he was retiring for the night as he departed. He took the last leg of pheasant from agrees plate explaining apologetically that his own plate had been ruined callum wandered out away from the fire chewing the pheasant. He stopped at the edge of camp and still holding the leg in his mouth unbelted. His trousers to relieve himself. Callum heard the creaking axle approaching out of the forest. Who Goes there? He shouted through the roast fowl spinning around while still grappling with his belt. His jaw fell dropping the pheasant leg as he stared at the terrible being before him an impossibly tall and slender specter dressed in robes of the deepest black stared down at him from the seat of an old black cart. The cart itself was drawn by four of the largest black horses. Callum had ever seen this spectral figure raised an arm to point a single bony finger right at the prince. Callum swallowed gathering himself in the bravest voice he could manage. He addressed the cloaked figure. Spirit I know not why you point your bony appendage hither but I wonder if you know in whose presence you now stand I am Kalam Prince of these lands and the owner of this forest and I. Before the prince could finish his proclamation. He was distracted by an odd noise behind him. Turning around to chastise the interrupt. There're he found himself staring at his own pale. Bottom he or a man who looked just like him was writhing on the ground clawing at his throat his unbelted trousers hung loose around his ankles and a leg of half eaten pheasant lay in the grass beside him. Oh that isn't fair. Callum protested realizing he was watching his own death unfold before him. I can't die like this. It's my birthday tomorrow. A gleeful laugh sounded behind callum and he spun around to face the Hood Specter again for the first time. He noticed the young girl standing beside the lead horse she was Pale as death and slightly translucent and glowing like Gossamer in the moon. What's funny callum snapped? This only inspired the girl to laugh harder. She cackled you are going on about your birthday. I broke my neck this morning. Trying to fetch a pitcher. But you don't see me whining about it. Callum stared at her. What do you mean broke your neck? Who are you people? My Name's Isabel and if you haven't figured it out yet he's death. There's no use crying about it. As far as I'm concerned you got just what you deserved stuffing your face out here while my brothers dying in town callum interrupted seizing his opportunity. I can save him your brother. I'll get him a doctor. Whatever he needs please. I don't WanNa die. Isabel had stopped laughing. Her eyes narrowed as she stared back at callum slowly. She turned to look up at the cloaked writer when he did not move. Isabel lowered her gaze to the ground. I bet you wouldn't have been able to help him any way. She muttered all the fire. Seem to have gone out of her in an instant but callum didn't care. His attention was now entirely fixed on the hooded spector. I won't come with you. You can't have me. It isn't fair. He insisted the spectres stood seizing. Its SCYTHE callum pleaded. Wait I'm rich. I'm powerful ask for anything it's yours. The Specter stepped down from the cart unfazed by the prince's words callum staggered backward as it loomed toward him. You need a life. Is that it. My men will gladly die for me. Take one of them. It take all of them. Why won't you say anything? Is this a game to you? The Specter stopped callum continued thinking on his feet. That's it abet. I'll make you a challenge. Spirit in this forest their lives a white stag the rarest game in all this land. My party is hunted for years and never come close but tonight I know for sure that it is mine. Let us both race for it. The one to fell. The stag takes the spoils the STAG and the right to determine the fate of the other column called his breath. Fainting bravery awaiting a reply as you wish a voice like a rake scraped against rough stone had risen suddenly from the black and depths of the cowl for a moment callum thought he had imagined it then suddenly he was riding on the ground lungs screaming for air with a final great gasp the bone that had been blocking his airway. Shot out onto the ground. He scrambled to his feet pulling up his trousers and wiping the spittle from his mouth. The cloaked figure had already climbed down from the cart. And was. Now unfashionable the horses. He gave the reins of one to Isabel who led the massive steed to Callum by the time the prince had managed to climb onto its back. The Specter was firmly seated upon his own horse. How do we start? The Specter stared back at callum silent as the grave. All right said the prince at last go. The cloaked rider took off like a bolt of lightning. With a swish of his cloak and a thunderous cascade of pounding hooves. He disappeared into the darkness. Callum grinned and cranked his horse's reins turning it to face the opposite direction. Good luck catching a stag. That isn't there. He dug his heels into his horse's flanks and galloped off into the night leaving the cart the two remaining horses and Isabel behind in the fourteenth century while the bubonic plague ravaged the continent European artists increasingly began to depict the character of death as a skeletal figure. Sometimes he held a weapon usually a crossbow or DART which you would use to select his victims at times he was shown on top of a horse. An allusion to the book of Revelation. Chapter six verse. Eight it reads and I looked and behold a pale horse and his name. That sat on him was death and hell followed with him and power was given to them over the fourth part of the Earth to kill with sword and with hunger and with death and with the beasts of the earth in the decades following the black death scourge of Europe. The skeletal figure gradually began to gather a variety of new acoustic mall. The crossbow was traded in for a two handed sides and instrument loaded with symbolic significance. F- beyond its unique and threatening appearance the side that was a familiar symbol in the agrarian world of Medieval Europe. It was particularly associated with the changing of the seasons and harvest the point when the year would come to an end and at least allegorically. Di No longer would. Death be a hunter carefully selecting his victims before firing a bolt into their hearts from then on he would be a farmer claiming scores of living with a single swing of his curved blade in plague ravaged Europe. No image could be more apt for if death is a reaper and mankind is his wheat then. He claims us by the BUSHEL coming up. The reaper collects now back to the story ones long ago the cruel Prince Callum was hunting in a forest near his home when he was visited by death himself. The dark hooded spirit had come to claim callum soul for the young princes time was up refusing to accept his demise. Callum challenged death with a game. Whichever of them could kill the white stag that lived in the forest would decide the fate of the other as soon as death charged off in pursuit of the Stag Callum turned and galloped away making for his own castle as he wrote through the night he threw back his head and howled with laughter he prince Callum had outwitted death. The tail of the coup and the cruel prince depicts one of the most common archetypes of grim reaper stories immortal man attempts to cheat deaf often by challenging him to a game or bet. Examples of this trope appear in Henry. Wadsworth fellows the legend of Rabbi Ben. Levy as well as the nineteen fifty eight Ingmar Bergman Film. The seventh seal which famously depicts death as an avid chess player while the reaper has a grim job. He's clearly not above a bit of fun so long as the stakes are human life. In addition to chess and friendly wagers. Death appears to be a music fan. One of the most popular images to come out of the Middle Ages is the dance of death often known by its French. Name THE DANCE. Macab depicted in countless paintings frescoes and woodcarvings from the Middle Ages. This allegorical scene showed a troupe. Of skeletal figures luring the living to their graves to the tune of a lively song often. The characters in these scenes came from all walks of life. Popes and Princes waltzed beside the poor elderly and infirm. D- underscoring the fact that whatever one status or wealth death came for all in the end. The theme of death as the great equalizer was revisited. By Edgar Allan Poe in Eighteen. Forty two when he published his short story. The mask of the Red Death. The death figure in the tail bears visible similarities. To the figure of the grim reaper. Whose name would make. Its first appearance. Only five years later in pose gothic story. A cruel prince invites his wealthy friends to wade out a plague epidemic behind the walls of an Abbey. One night he hosts an extravagant party to entertain his guests but as the prince would soon learn. Walls can only keep death at bay for so long. Prince Callum watched as the Abbey Gates ground slowly. Shut finally slamming together with an ominous thud that echoed through the courtyard. The guards immediately set to work securing the door beam which they reinforced with heavy metal chains when it was done one of the guards approached. Callum and handed him the large brass key satisfied. Callum turned to face his waiting guests. They were dressed in. The finest regalia lavish beaded costumes matched. Only by their jewel encrusted masks. Callum addressed them my friends the gates are shut and I alone hold the key the horrors that plagued the world outside hold no sway here inside. Abbey. There is no death and no suffering. There is only music good food better company and enough wine to last us to the second coming so please forget your cares and worries and enjoy my birthday. Prince callum moved through the crowd greeting his guests and enjoying the atmosphere of frivolity and celebration. He spotted a slender woman in a white rabbit mask and recognized her. As a young duchess he'd been speaking to earlier in the evening. He had almost made his way to her when he was intercepted by the Abbot. The Abbey thanks you for your generosity. Prince Callum said the Abbot through his. Porcine mask the new stained glass windows. You donated are simply magnificent. I had them all installed in separate rooms so that their vibrant colors can be properly admired. No expense can be spared where the Lord's houses concerned said the prince eager to move on truer words. Were never spoken. I'm so pleased we were able to host your celebration this evening. If you could only remind your guests that the chapel is off limits some of your more inebriated friends seemed to have mistaken. The Baptism Font for a wading pool callum brushed the Abbot off. I'm sure the Lord will understand. His son had an affinity for clean feet. If I remember correctly Prince Callum was already moving off before the Abbot could object. He scanned the room for the woman in the rabbit mask but there was no sign of her. As the Abbey's bell began to toll callum heard a horrible sickening scream. He world around to find one of his guests on the verge of hysteria pointing at something in the corner someone had brought the black death into the abbey she shouted the disease was inside the walls and now they were all going to die. Prince callum followed the woman's Gaze. A short pale shoeless figure stood near the gates dressed in. Filthy blood specked rags. Her mask was a white plaster skull with the nose painted black and red smeared around the grinning mouth. Striding over to the short figure callum announced. It isn't the black death merely someone's idea of a practical joke. We're all safe here. Please return to your revelry while I deal with this mischief maker. The short figur- didn't move as the prince strode across the courtyard. How dare you wear that? Gruesome thing in here. You've come this close to ruining my birthday I should have you hung. Callum snatched the mask off the figures head and froze. It was the girl shade from the forest. The one that had accompanied deaths cart Isabelle. What are you doing here? Callum STAMMERED AND SHOCK. Isabel smiled sweetly up at him. The question is what are you doing here? You owe him. Caloms shook his head trying to brush her off but he can't come in here. This is the Lord's House and the walls Isabel replied. He goes where he goes that woman and the rabbit mask. She brought him inside. She doesn't know she's sick yet but she will. Soon I'll throw her out then. Calum snapped spinning around and searching the crowd. Where is she upstairs with? Your cousin agree. You're going to have to throw him out to. I'm afraid and the Duke. And the fryer. It's spreading now. It won't take long. Prince Callum looked up as the courtyard fell suddenly silent. The mast guests were frozen in stupor staring at their new visitor. The hooded Specter stood in their midst towering above their shoulders side in his right hand. Fresh screams broke out. The woman in the rabbit mask fell to her knees. Coughing blood onto the stone floor of the courtyard. The crowd surged away from her. Gasps of panic spread is another gas began to cough and another and another. It's the Black Death. Someone shouted get out or we'll all be killed said another the guests surge toward the Abbey Gates clawing at one another to be first out wait cautioned the Abbot Prince Callum has the only key we must. The crowd surged over the Abbot in an instant ignoring his cries of pain as they trampled him into the stones of the courtyard floor. The guests threw themselves at the gates in a writhing mass howling in fury and despair as they refused to budge. The prince stared through the bedlam and the towering hooded raith stared back. He was to blame for all of this callum thought he had ruined his hunt and now his birthday seething with rage callum grabbed a nearby guard and drew the man's sword. He turned back to see the hooded specter disappearing into the interior of the Abbey. Do not run from me spirit. Prince callum shouted racing into the building. Turning into the first door he came to callum found himself inside a small. Dark Chapel. At the center of the outer wall was a single or NATO window of blue stained glass. Moonlight pulled through it filling the room with a cold dim light. The corner of a black cloak disappeared around a door at the far end of the room. Callum after it and immediately found himself in a similar chapel illuminated by purple stained glass window the specter was not inside so prince. Callum did not stop he chased death through the Abbey. Sword gripped tight in his hand. Each room he passed through glowed with light from a window of different colored glass after purple came green then orange then white then violet as he stepped into the seventh room he slowed. It was too dark to say for sure. The room was empty. Black hung from the ceilings along the walls the window was circular smaller than the rest and painted a deep red. It glowed like a lidless eye. Painting the room deep scarlet the wraith loomed from the darkness silhouetted in read it glided toward Callum. Who raised his sword before Him Crimson? Light glinted off the blade as he leapt forward with a scream and plunged the soared into the spectres robes callum laughed in triumph as death came to a stop then the wraith reached beneath the folds of his robes drawing forth gnarled antlers and blood specked white for callum sword protruded from the chest of the white stag which death carefully placed on the floor before the prince. The stag is yours as are all? The souls of the world callum stared into cowl in fear and confusion. Who are you? He demanded but death was silent. Furious callum stepped over the corpse of the STAG and reached up to seize the spectres hood. He pulled it back to reveal nothing. Prince Callum stood alone at the center of the scarlet room holding an empty black cloak. What does it mean? The prince wondered aloud. Isabel tiptoed into the room and bent to pick up the side that now lay on the floor. I thought that he was pretty clear. She said offering him the handle. Callum honored his predecessors agreement with Isabelle allowing her to walk up front with the horses rather than ride in the back with the rest of the shades she was initially reticent to accept the new death but soon had to admit that his capacity for speech made him a more entertaining companion while he was sometimes as moody and self obsessed as she. I feared he was also quite funny a good storyteller and good at up with games to pass the time for a long while. The prince refused to wear the black cowl insisting that he was too good looking to hide away eventually his skin began to wither and gray and his once lustrous locks started coming off in clumps still. He refused the hood opting instead for a dark wide brimmed hat. This lasted until his nose fell off when he finally admitted that perhaps Isabelle was right unless he wanted. Everyone's first glimpse of death to be knows lois man in a rather comical state of mid. Decay. It was time to wear the cowl. Callum told fewer jokes after his tongue rotted away but by this point Isabel had grown used as companionship. And the first death had become a distant memory callum started letting her ride in the cart beside him and tasked her with carrying his crystal hourglass while he no longer spoke aside from the rare breathy. Rasp. She sensed that he appreciated being spoken to one day. Many years later Isabel found herself sitting in yet. Another hospital room. They had arrived early again so she watched the grains of sand strain through the hourglass eager to move on to somewhere more interesting. Meanwhile callum stood at the back of the line of relatives waiting his turn to see the patient on the hospital bed turning to look for the first time. Isabel saw that the subject was a pale. Nine year old boy with Auburn hair he feebly at each visitor waiting patiently for them to say they're teary piece but between each relative his eyes would shift to callum waiting in the back of the line and fill with fear. The hourglass was nearly empty when the last relative kissed the boy on the cheek and shuffled away. Now it was caloms turn as he stepped toward the hospital bed. Isabel hopped down from her seat and hurried over to him cal. Let me talk to Him. I okay. She said the cloaked figure of death stared down at her for a moment then nodded and took a step back. Isabel stepped toward the bed. Meeting the boys is. Hello I'm Isabel. What's your name the boy replied Charlie. Who's he charlie was looking at Callum again? The Hood wraith was now trying to fit into one of the hospital chairs which was proving to be quite a challenge due to his immense height. He's a friend. Isabel said simply. Don't be frightened. I know he looks scary but he's not so bad when you get to know him just bad at first impressions. Charlie didn't look convinced. You remind me of my little brother. She said Apropos of nothing he got sick to did he die. Asked Charlie turning to face her yes. He did said Isabelle sadly but not from his illness. He got better all on his own. I had to wait quite a long time before I got to see him again. Maybe I'll get better said Charlie more to himself than Isabel. She watched as the last grain of sand tumbled to the bottom of the hour. Glass at the other end of the room. Callum stood Isabel spoke softly Charlie. Would you mind if my friend comes to talk to you? Charlie looked apprehensive but he nodded. Bravely Isabel smiled. She had just started to turn away when she thought of something. Hey Charlie she said quickly because Callum was looming closer. Do you know anything about horses. Charlie didn't well just tell him you do. Okay tell him you're great with them and that you're a fast walker and that you WANNA walk up front with me. If he says no at first just stand your ground. He's a big pushover. You'll see Charlie clearly. Had No idea what she was talking about but he agreed to do as Isabel asked. She stepped aside and let death sweep past her to collect the boy at the same moment. Isabel turned over. The hourglass and watched as grains of sand began to cascade from the top to the bottom. It was time to be moving on for all of recorded. Human history. Mankind's struggled to understand the ethereal concept of death on the one hand all around us an inescapable part of life we first encounter it through friends and family members who are here one day and gone the next but until we experiences ourselves what happens after we close our eyes for the last time remains a mystery virtually every culture and religion in history his sought to answer the question of what happens to us after we shuffle off our mortal coil. Perhaps it should not be surprising. Men that we would turn to the most human method of grappling with the unknown. Giving it a face just as the ancient. Greeks and Nord sought to understand lightning through the God. Zeus and Thor. So have we sought a face for death in the modern Western world? We have the grim reaper shrouded raith who will tirelessly walk the earth until the last mortal human breathes their last gasp. His unforgettable face is the blank skull stripped clean of all flesh. It's perhaps the most primal symbol of death. There is depicting the final moment in which the body retains any guys of humanity before long it too will become dust and be lost forever to oblivion. Thanks for listening to mythical monsters. We'll be back next week with a new episode. You can find all episodes of mythical monsters and all other parkas originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already. Have all of your favorite music? But now spotify's making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals. Like mythical monsters for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream mythical monsters on spotify just open the APP and type mythical monsters in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. I'll see you next time. Mythical monsters was created by Max. Cutler is a production of cutler media. And is part of the PODCAST NETWORK. 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