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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 3 - February 12, 2019
"Hi, everyone. Welcome to the February. Twelfth addition of time from US pays cast. I'm David Arab built at time formula analyst, I'll be joined injustice second by pregnant Kelsey the time formulas chief Steve figure maker this week on the podcast. We're gonna take a look at these Sam at Davis takes that was run last week at Tampa Bay downs as well as some other three oh performances around the country, including a couple of impressive allowance winners. Also, Phoenix win winning the loss version of stakes out in California and some turf stakes races that took place in Florida as well as at Santa Anita this past weekend, some interesting horses, some grade two three level types that were an actionable take look at all of those efforts by those runners what out further ado, a welcome welcome in my co host criminal Cousy a- Craig how're you doing on this Tuesday afternoon. I'm good. I let onto the weather. Hopefully, our listeners will put up with it here in freezing cold, Oklahoma City. But otherwise things are well. It's trying to decide whether it's snowing raining here right now. So not looking too much better in queens. But I'm happy we're going to discuss some racist taking place in warmer venues this weekend. Worse. We'll start with the Senate Davis stakes because that was the big three breath from this past weekend. Most of the horses that were going to be an action moving to the Kentucky Derby running a Tampa Bay downs. And what did you think of this race overall? What did you make the winter? We had a bit of upset as the favourite Nikko was off the board. You went down to defeat and well-defined got back on track and won this race. Did I put blinkers on and use the full effect opening up a clear lead and Ayn rand a nice time for US speed figure. One fourteen I set a solid piece one twenty five to the half mile nothing spectacular. But but good, you know, I'm curious to see how this one will go out do going forward. I'm never a huge fan of these kind and open clear beads and just win easily. That is usually when you are expected to run your best speed figures. He is a three year old. So not saying he can't improve. But I'm not gonna go over the crazy on this one. And it'll be interesting to see who else comes in for the Tampa Bay derby thought this race was notable more for just the general disappointments by some other runners rather than the winner who looked to give them all the credit. He deserves. He ran a nice race. A one fourteen time for speed vigorous certainly respectable for this time of year. And he's a horse who had shown some potential as to your role t one that to turn race at Gulfstream restricted to Florida breads last year. I think that was his best performance the date after he he didn't show up in the Breeders Cup. And he didn't run on the Muccio macho man, but like you were saying the blinkers obviously made a big difference. I think what really gave him a strength in this race well-defined is that he was able to outrun. The other speeds and take a horse like Nick's go out of his best game because he's a horse that really wants to be poorly placed in the clear chasing if not outright on the lead at Nikko is not able to do that. I think it really affected his performance and well-defined just he wasn't setting a super fast paced. But it just kind of ran them off their feet and the only thing. That could really close into that pace Kentucky wildcat. Unfortunately, he comes out of the race injured. Yeah. That's what I heard. He won't be going on on the trail. When I was a little shaky on him as it was. He was a rare horse said that his speed figures for me, even though they look nice they were kind of questionable because and Nyerere usually is one of the better circuits for timing races. But he had the rare distinction of coming out of two in a row that had issues. So it's kind of wishy washy on him, especially at the short price. I certainly ran. Okay. I mean, he was eight lengths clear of the third-place horse. I believe not. Maybe I'm hold on. I have our charts that right? That's right. So he was he was eight lengths clear of soa vibe who and to be honest. Wow. What was the how was that one three to one? That was one I couldn't figure out. Unfortunately, you can't always take advantage under lease. But I thought that was a massive underlay and he just looked to be struggling through the race. And I was pretty shocked to see third. But I think I was just basically a battle of attrition. No one like, you have a younger sibling in that younger sibling has to do everything like bigger and better than you. Did I feel like that's what's so alive is to his hacks beano Roseau because he is just like the maxed out version of Roseau. I mean, he's like more sluggish more ornery. He doesn't want to do at the jockey tells them to do it seems like he gets bet for no reason even more so than Roseau did I didn't get why he was taking so much money. It seemed like he just didn't want to do it for the first half of the race. And then he made like a a belated run to get thirty never really impacted the race. I mean, he got a ninety seven time from your speech, I believe which just is not going to be competitive in these race looming forward. I didn't get the pill going in. I don't get his appeal moving out of the race. Nikko? He was pretty disappointing. You know, I think he really looking for Nikko to rebound from that poor performance at Churchill Downs in the slob in the Kentucky jockey club. And it's just starting to make me wonder, you know, was he ever really that good or did he just gone wrong or or the trips not working out for him these last races? I'm not really sure. Yeah. And you mentioned last week two reservations about the Breeders Cup juvenile. And I think that just starts to add to it. I was willing to put a line through his racing Kentucky. I think it had a wide trip that day was drawn way outside and just didn't show up at all. He ran a little better this time. But certainly nothing like is Breeders Cup performance. And just not a whole lot of upside that I can see from here unless he can get a clear lead, which generally doesn't happen. If you stay on the Kentucky, Derby trail things only get tougher from here. Yeah. I don't wanna make it sound like I'm just knocking game-winner because I mean game wonders probably gonna come back and win both of his preparations pretty easily. Given where they're gonna run him that that's just the reality of it. But I mean, I think you do have to question a little bit the competition that he was facing last year. Just given the way that Knicks has come back, given the way the gun metal grey has come back and not really move forward, and perhaps taken a step backwards. Well-defined did come out of the Cup juvenile's. Well win this race. But I don't wanna put too much stock in horse. That was a non factor in a race like the Breeders Cup and elevate the the race because of that. So we'll see I'm not really sure where these orces stand moving forward because the performances have been all over the place. I think there will be some other words come into the Tampa Bay derby some allowance horses that will discuss and a little bit that'll make that that raise a little more interesting than this Davis was, but we'll see if these factors moving forward. The other race that I think we have to discuss just in terms of graded stakes events for three Roach. When the past weekend was the San Vicente out in California where Coliseum I think it's safe to say at this point. He's been exposed. Yeah. He was another one almost like so of I've I mean, I have no idea how you can make this worse. Three to five. He was twenty two to one in the derby future writer at the close of bedding. I mean, it just like boggles the mind. Yeah. I mean, I don't know that I'd want them at two hundred twenty two one. There's nothing to see here. I guess it's the Smith Baffert thing, and it's hard to fall people. I mean, they basically win everything out there. But this just goof off last time out he just didn't look competitive at all. And I didn't see much of the same. There's no I saw much of the same this time others there's no figures in our chart ship, but my assistant southern California. He did he know the winter sparky Ville is gonna get it'll be around the one oh nine which is solid. But I don't know that any of these are really derby horses. He looks like a sprinter. Good effort by him. He did get a little bit. Nice setup. The pace was pretty quick imagine. At least one of the fractions will be coded and read when when the figures make it to the charts. But other net is not a whole lot. That talk about here. I think we're looking more at sprinters than anything else. The one who is that. I do want to follow a little bit moving forward is actually Bob efforts other horse Desmond. Because within the context of the race. I'm not like you're saying, I'm not sure how strong this really is. But within the context of the race. I think he did run the best because he actually broke a little bit slower than Coliseum out of the gate and had to rush up to contest that pace. That was definitely a least honest, maybe fast. And I thought he battled back really gamely when sparky Bill came to him in the stretch. If you watched the forces crossing, the wires sparky Ville actually was lucky to just get his head in front of right at the finish. Because soon as they gallop out Desmond runs right ahead of that horse and gallops out ahead of them. He's got some pedigree to stretch out. He's by union rags? He's out of a damn that's a half smokin frog who want a bunch of route races on the dirt. So maybe he does better moving forward. You know, maybe he just like the wet track union rags to they seem to like sloppy tracks. I'm not really sure if he's that good just based on what he was. Facing in this race? But he's the one horse that I would be a little bit interested in moving forward. And for those familiar with our speed figures, we actually it's not just final time. We look at the pizzas. Well, and just looking at the worksheet I sent to my assistant there. I'm pretty sure he's going to get a higher speed figure than sparky Ville by pointer to just because of being a little bit closer to the peace battling up front of little bit more. So you know pointer to not a huge deal, but he would be the one to get to look at going forward out of here. All right. Well, those were the two graded stakes that run for three roles last weekend. But one of the most talked about races with actually I'm allowance race the took place at Gulfstream Park. We just mentioned how call him off at twenty to one of the derby future raider, actually, another horse who wasn't participating in graded stakes. Also went off at that price when they closed wagering for this round of the future wage, and that was global campaign who won his second start in. I believe the tenth race at Gulfstream on Saturday going Milena sixteenth. You know, what were your impressions of this performance because I got some feelings about this horse. I mean, it looked good visually. But you know, when I sat down to make the figures, and for the workout I gave them a higher figure than buyer when you of look at the two scales we use by good ten points. But it's still not that great. And you know, I get a lot of the people saying, well, you know, he was eased up Lii. And and while it's true. Maybe he could have run faster. He probably could have that doesn't necessarily translate the meaning he could run faster with a tougher trip. Which is almost sure to have next time. He comes. I mean, it doesn't get a whole lot easier. Nece he was three to five standard deviation. Look to be only real competition. And I wasn't overly impressed with that one coming in. He ran just okay, not not a horse. I'd won't go and forward being you know, Chad Brown, he's probably always going to take money. So that just definitely not blown away by this race. I'll be looking to bet against him wherever he shows up. Next. Yeah. I mean, I guess you're not going to get some of the hate mail that the buyer people get that speed bigger because it seems like people really love this horse. Yeah. I think the one oh seven to speed figure. It makes it makes enough sense. I I don't think how I don't see how you could go any higher than that. As you were saying just based on the fact that standard deviation was second. I mean while he did or net. Great one placing a two year old. He just never ran a really fast race. Maybe these horses are improving at this time of year. But you look at the third place finisher to actually another son of curl. And it's funny. If you look at the top finishers in this race there all by curl out of Apia delined dams. I guess they're all print run all day. And that's one of the reasons that people are so excited global campaign because he's got his pedigree, the half dible Doro. He's just bred to get the classic distances. But you know, it's hard to justify based on the time speed figure being anywhere close to exceptional. He's going to have to run a lot faster to be competitive in the graded stakes races. That are going to be running. Or he's going to have to earn his points to get into races. Like, the Kentucky Derby, and I've seen some people talking about comparison to the slower allowance race that always dreaming grand before he won the Florida derby. But I think there are some major distinctions to make before you kind of condone a comparison like that because always dreaming Reynolds low-speed figure because he set a ridiculously slow pace something you can't do on dirt and earn a fast speed figure. They went the half and like fifty one this report is one sixteen when he won that allowance race, which just ludicrous. If you're trying to run a fast final time, it's impossible. Global campaign Seddon on his pace he was sort of geared down at the end. But like you were saying, I don't think he could have run that much faster. I didn't like that standard deviation who had been in a drive for threes of a mile was getting him at the end of that race. Even though he was kind of the winner was being eased up under the wire. Yeah. I don't really buy into the back that he's that. He's run a lot faster. And to me this worst does a lot to prove. And if he's gonna get bed the way, he wasn't this feature worshiping forward. I've got to be against him in the future. Yeah. And I'm with you. And especially when I look at a horse who I think we're going to talk about next dream maker who won an allowance rates at the fairgrounds, which I personally thought was way more impressive than global campaigns. And I haven't heard a whole lot about this. He got a one thirteen from me in his first rate since back in October. But he just looked really good doing it. He was wide throughout the race. Especially on the first turn, which is usually a tough trip to overcome. He showed he's able to rate. And if you just gave me these two courses and said you had to pick one next. I would take dream maker every time I am totally on the same page issue. I had not even really been aware that this horse was returning. I didn't I didn't notice this race ahead of time. It was just kind of combing through some of the charts to talk about for the podcast and I noticed this race. And I remember this horse from last year at Saratoga. I think he read in the hopeful. And there's a lot of hype around him. I think he was originally got around the Saratoga special before they changed course. Maybe there was. Setback or something. But I remember Mark Cassie had really liked this horse. There was a lot of hype around him. The hopeful didn't play to his running style because dominated on the front end. And if you watch his Futurity from last year, his final starts Chiro. He just got completely eliminated at the start of a slam between horses had to steady really badly. And just in that thirteen Horsfield or whatever it was. He had no chance after that. So his two year old campaign was just kind of a bust, but they had really liked this horse. And I thought the same thing you did. I love the way he was powering the stretch at the fairgrounds in this race. You know, he was up stalking pace that you know, it wasn't slow, but it was honest enough. And I think it's worth noting the torture finish second and third. They came from last and second last I mean, it was a pace that pretty much fell apart behind this horse. And I mean, he finished up really strongly over track seemed pretty dead at the fairgrounds that one thirteen time former SP figuring what stacks up very well against some of these great stakes horses at this time of year. And he's got an awesome, pedigree that second beautiful pleasure. She was a champion back. In the late nineties. I think this one's got some real potential. Am excited to see where it goes from here these horses actually global campaign and maker they might meet up next in the Tampa Bay derby because given the way the timing works. I think Marquette even mentioned that raises a potential target. So it'll be interesting to see if we get to compare these horses in the future. Yeah. Well, I think we have risen star's obviously too too soon. That's next week. So yeah. Hopefully, that would be I like that as a better, you know, you always wanna see if you can validate your opinion at the window. Yeah. Well, that was the three world cult action. But there was a pretty exciting three year old filly in action at santee on Saturday, and that was Bill FINA, and she was super impressive and her return going seven furlongs at Santa Anita last month. I was really impressed by race. And I believe she got pretty high speed figure for that performance. She came back and stretch down to a mile in the Las Virginis, and she wasn't quite as visually. Impressive speed dropped off a little bit. What were your impressions of the race? Because I know some people came away a little disappointed. I thought it was just what she needed to be honest. I I wasn't blown away. But I didn't have a problem with the race. I mean, she won pretty easy. I was pretty impressed with the runner up. I think she's a horse. I'm going to guess at how you pronounce it L RAB. I don't know if that's right or not. I should've watched a replay. And seem would Frank said, but. Yes, she's an improving horse. So either one of those two going forward I like maybe at the longer distance next time, if they meet up, I might go the other way just based on price. But I think it's too promising Phillies there to both Trine by sharp guy. So I wouldn't be surprised to see both of those two in the starting gate for the oaks. I was probably a little bit too hard on this horse. When I I watched the race. Because initially I mean, she was what I think she was one to nine. It just seems a little disappointing that she had to really got out the victory of win by a little bit less than a length. In retrospect, you know, she did have a she did dole. With mother mother on the far turn. I doubt the pace was color coded ran. But you know. Yeah. They were going an honest cliff are walking on the front end and she did put mother-mother away. And like you said the runner up is a horse that could be improving seems like a horse that's gonna get better with distance. And that might be what's happening. My thing with Bill. Athena, is she's obviously very talented. I just get the sense that she's really just naturally fast horse. She's a horse that in the future is probably going to be best going like seven furlongs. Maybe like a one turn mile in the corn. I'm not yet convinced that she's really Kentucky oaks kind of horse. I don't know if she's going to want the to turn mile on an eighth. I know she's like this bigger impressive billion people just generally think that would get more distance and she's bread to do it, I suppose, but just give them what I've seen of her. I've seen so much brilliance in sprint races. And just not quite the same level of excitement. It's ferrall races. And the other reservation, I have about her is we have the. Code in bright red that day the track was listed. Good. And I look through all the racist to see why that's what I'd like to do. Because that just tells me a whole bunch of front runners one, and we do take things like the odds in the consideration. You know, we're not going to give a whole lot of credit to a one the nine going wire-to-wire is calling something speed favoring but other Neo pinning racer the day, which was a five and a half furlongs. I think virtually every other dirt race was one wire-to-wire including several a few of them by some big price horses. So there is a possibility she was helped by the track on this day as well. I think that's a good point because analyzing favorites. Like this. You know, you don't want to be looking for reasons to support future wanna be looking for reasons that they might be vulnerable because they're going to be short prices moving forward. The other three year old race from the past weekend was not quite at the level as the Virginis. It's ungraded stakes. But it was also run Tampa Bay downs on the same day as the Sam f Davis, and that was the son coast, which was won by second time. Star point of honor who had wanted made him race at Gulfstream for George Weaver and her debut. You know, it wasn't a strong field overall. There are a lot of coming into the race. But a lot to prove still. But you know, I liked what I saw from this Phillies. She really did it the right way. And you don't often see horses breaking slowly and just making sustained runs for the entire race. Which is what she did the time didn't come back that fast. But just from the visual standpoint, it was okay. And this one I was came out of a race. She broke her maiden around two turns at Gulfstream and kind of overcame a slow pace that day and speed figure was a little lacking Dement mentioned before it's tough to run a good speed figure when you get a slow pace. So it was kind of conformed to betting on this horse. But it turned out the public wasn't fooled with her they jumped on her mater better down the five to two and kind of same thing. She didn't get a great speed figure here Scott in ninety eight. So she did improve off the first one out as expected, but the pace was. Moderate at best and she was actually last early on. And like you said made in may sustain run. So this is a kind of worse. I don't write off just because of speed figure that might not look as great as thank just to the setup of the race. And and the run that she put in you know, to come from last against that peace means, you know, she was going quite a bit faster than the ones in front of her at through the lane. So she's one I would be willing to take a shot with her going forward. I think she's got room to improve. Yeah. Speaking of stretching out distance. She should have no problem with it. Because I believe she's a daughter of kirwin and just given the way she finish this race. It just seems like she might be a slower horse in general, but she's going to run all day. So I'm not going to be concerned about her stretching out to the mile and an eighth whereas Venus slows to answer that question. You know, we'll see what they do moving forward. I'm not sure where these three world fillies really stand right now. We've yet to see the champion jaywalk come back. I'm looking forward to her return. But I think there's still a lot of sorting out to do in that division in terms of other major stakes race. Is that took place in the past weekend wanna turf action both with the males and the females little bit Gulfstream and some out in California. Let's start out with the California stakes races. And the San Marcos was the biggest run out. There was a creed. Too violent a quarter. And it was a big field competitive field and platinum warrior with the the mild upset or actually probably significant upset. I think he was sixteen to one in that race with Shane fully writing in from Ireland. Yeah, this one was a bit surprising. I was really surprised at source went off sixteen one. Oh on our speed figures. He had run the same speed figure as Chicago style who I think was a three to one favorite. They finished. Just the part one was Chicago style was fourth the platinum warrior was fifth. So particularly on turfed our times, you can find some value on these turf races big over here, in my opinion. And he was just one that that probably shouldn't a went off those odds sometimes easy to say after the race. But. But I thought that going forward I kept looking at the past performance is trying to figure out the discrepancy. And especially seeing I mean, he's a four year old who you know, he had just run that lifetime best last time out. So certainly didn't have any reason to think he couldn't match it on Saturday watching this race. I do want to give a lot of credit to as writer Shane fully who I think was only writing his second race the United States. He's a he rides in Ireland. I think mostly in a little bit and Dubai and this was a race over a good Turk. Course, it wasn't the typical Ferber, of course, that we see out in California. And I think especially at Santa Anita with that really short stretch when when riders come in here from Europe and their own thing to retract like Santa Anita. They're often not afraid to make that early move to the league because a lot of the horses. The writing do have more stamina than the US horses in this. This worst platinum warrior on my believe, he's an Irish bred son of I think Galileo, so he's he's bread to run all day. And Shane fully was saying after the race. He wasn't afraid to make an early on this horse because he knew that he could stay the distance and keep on running. I think of a performance like high shop realm the Breeders Cup. Hi, cheryl. Other Aidan O'Brien horse that won the Breeders Cup Turf. Most recently whose name is escaping it out. With. The I'm forgetting back. Yeah. What when found was second race, Irv Flintshire forgetting his name, but his writer that wasn't afraid to make that that early move on the back strip and kind of open the race up. And sometimes you have to do that in these large fields because it Santa Anita. There's only so much ground. You've make up in the stretch when they're going only about three sixteenth of a mile. So this, you know, he ran well this day. I'm not sure if he's going to be a player in this division moving forward because this was not really the cream of the crop. But we took advantage of circumstances. Yeah. That's what I was gonna say. I don't wanna get too carried away on this rates because just to be honest agreed to on the turf in California's not agreed to at Gulfstream or at Keeneland or or when they actually make it to New York. It says the level below out there they're decent horses. But until things change are just not at the same level as a horse's back east. Yeah. And the other race that was run at Santon eight on the turf on Saturday was the thunder road which actually give higher speed figure two. True valour, another Irish bred horse ridden by foreign jockey this one trained by Simon Callaghan. He stepped up with a pretty nice performance. Although he might have taken advantage of a portrait by his main rival. He did I did actually wanna talk about that one just a little bit. I we brag just a little bit. He was a top power pick and our time for US PP's. I think he was eleven the one I saw that too late. He was also the projector and a situation favoring the leader. So the time for really singled him out as a horse to take a look at it a price, but I did want you mentioned river Boyne. I think he did get a bit unlucky. But I do think it's a little bit overblown. Sure, he had traffic, and he may very well. A won the race. But had he gotten through. We would all said. Yeah, he won. But he had a perfect trip where he saved ground the whole time. So I'm a little leery of these trips. I'm not sure if he was truly three to five I'm not sure why got himself pinned in there. I think the rider on the. To I don't remember who it was at the time Ohio kinda kind of play games. He left the the real loop. And. The the writer. I think it was Flavian Pratt on river river Pratt river took the beat. And kinda got pinned in it. Almost like the the writer on Ohio was riding the favorite almost as much as his horse and entrapped them in. So yeah, you know, maybe he did reality a little bit when he got clear, but you know, those are the kind of trips everybody sees them. So I don't get overly excited about him. Yeah. River, obviously was unlucky. But you know, like you were saying. He shouldn't have been in that spot. Really when you're riding a favorite like that. You don't have to get to too clever. You just have to get him into the clear and that never really happened for him river pointed nice horse. I don't wanna knock him. I mean he deserved to be on that race. I think he was going for his seventh win and seven starts at Santa Anita. So we obviously runs well in the miles is best distance. He just didn't get the right. The right trip that day. You know, this is true valour. He's another horse. That's actually Bredon Ireland. It's come over to this country. He seems like he's okay. The speed figure is respectable. But you know, again, I'm not sure that these horses are really at the top of this division or anywhere close to it. No, not at all. And let's go back to Tampa and Taco Bell about inspector Bingley who was winning the Tampa Bay stakes for the second year in a row. And I just thought it was a really nice performance by him. I expected a little bit more out of heart to heart, especially when they got a clearly I actually picked him on out of the gate. So I'm starting to have my doubts that maybe he's hit the wall at the age of eight and nothing wrong with that. I mean, he's at a heck of a career. But when you get that kind of trip, and he's always done well with it. You know, that's a horse where you may be saying, well, he's time. And I think I'm going to break up with him from now on going forward. Yeah. By the way, that horse that I couldn't remember the name of his Highland real the previous coupler mental block. Yeah. You know, it's kind of it feels like it might be the end of the line for heart to heart. Unfortunately, because these are the kinds of racist. Heart to heart is supposed to win. He got the that. Clearly, he just never seemed comfortable Julian did everything right with him got him to the front tried to get to relax after, you know, a pretty quick first quarter mile, and he just never settled even though he was on the lead. And it was the position where he likes to be. And he just had his head carrying carried much higher than usual. He just didn't seem to really have his mind in the game at any point. He let his come to him at the top of the stretch and just seemed kind of reluctant to really battle on. Yeah. If heart tar Kampman raise like that. I think you might be in trouble moving forward. It is getting up there in age. He said a nice career. So maybe that's the end of the line for him. We'll see but inspector Linley. He got a great ride from. I believe Jose Ortiz. He's just a horse that seems to always be right there and these these races, and you know, he deserved to get a win the big takeaway for me from this racist. Boy doesn't this flatter glorious empire because I think the top refinish us in this race all finished behind glorious empire. Wella hind him in the Fort Lauderdale back in December. And I think that really solidifies the form of that race because it seemed like Laureus empire taking this big step for that day. And the fact that all these horses him including curb on and busy Darrell all came back to run so wellness, Tampa Bay stakes it really flatters that horse. Yeah. No doubt. It's definitely looks like a strong rates. And that's we talked about it last week. That's one of the ways, I handicap I look at the charts. And so I know when I look back at this race not this this race. But the previous one one by goriest empire, all know right away. This was a strong race. And you wanna watch these going forward? Think about the endeavor steaks with a hawks more. It's you know, it's funny. She was projected to be on the lead. I think even by the pace projector. She just seemed like faster than these horses. But for whatever reason she didn't break that. Well, and she just. Seemed like he would have been interested in going forward. But the horse just seemed, you know, did not have usual speed out of the gate, but I thought from that point on hot air Castellano did everything right with this horse. He just sat quietly as possible just kind of tried to get her to settle on the rail in behind horses saved all the ground with her moved up when there was a when there was an opportunity to do. So got around at the top of the stretch never moving off the rail until they got into the straightaway. And it all worked out for. I wasn't super impressed by the fact that she only beat the second place finisher. Who was just okay by three quarters of a length, given that hawks more has that graded stakes form that great one form. But, you know, given the fact that she had to come from off the pace that it was a decent effort. If that's why ask you. I was curious if you thought maybe it was an intentional change a running style or not just getting a little older, man. She's a six year old mayor now. So maybe she has lost a step. And and if so that's probably the way forward to go to you know, change that style up a little bit. And she didn't blow blow anything away with the speed figure scale with a one nineteen which it's solid for great three Phillies mayors. But yeah, I found the thing I found interesting was the complete change running style for her. I mean, she's never won a race running anything like that way before. So it definitely surprised me when I saw the research as like, wow, she's six to five she's in big trouble. And she was able to still get the win. She's she proved that she's not like heart-to-heart who seems need everything own way up front, and it's it's good to have that versatility. But before it because hawks more while she has been successful on the front end. She is a horse that it showed me ability when she leads racist to really sprint for home. And close on her own fractions. You know, when a pretty impressive way, and the fact that she can do that even raiding behind horses. You know, that's going to be good for her moving forward. We'll see where she really fits into this division. I'm not sure about the class at this rate because you were alluding to. But it's always nice the horses show a bit more versatility. Another reason this division was running Gulfstream the Swanee river and rims guy believe cross entered in the endeavoring chose to run as the heavy favorite in the swan river, I know rims because a horse that people have been very high on including her connections. She's a horse that there's been some hype around and she's had some visually. Impressive wins back. You know in the past is especially her three year old season. But the circumstances in the river just totally against her. Yeah. This is one when you pull up the chart and time form you ask you're gonna see all the fractions or code in blue even through the mile Valich valedictorian set the pace at which it was pretty obvious looking at our pace projector and just looking at the PP's CI will get the lead. But they get it in east fractions. What was pretty surprising? I mean, she only got a ninety piece figure for the opening quarter and half mile final time in one fifteen. And when you do that, I mean horses of if you give a quality horse that kind of be she was clear. He was going slow. They're almost impossible to catch. And and she actually it's kind of amazing rim scarcely made up a little bit of ground owner through the stretch. He get did happen to gain a length, but she was never going to catch her one. So once I saw that one sixteen I mean, it was slow throughout. But when you get the one sixteen at three quarters the race was virtually over yet. And I ran Ortiz's put into a difficult position on the backstretch because I believe John Velasco's on on does special point to believe her name is moved up in sign of that horse and rims. Go was kind of just put in his precarious position between orces which is not where you want to be when you're trying to make a run with the closer because you know, you've really wait for something to open up to wait a little bit too long by the time he got out around the quarter pole. There was just no chance to make up the ground on ballot at Torian was just sprinting home, and you know, a lot of people think about time for speed figures and think about us just rewarding horses for setting fast pace are being involved in fast paced, but we also reward horses for closing into very slow. Cases. And I think rim is the quintessential example of that. Because her Ross figure for this race was won twelve but her final her time from US speed figuring the end wants pacis factored in was a one twenty two which the ten point bump that just you know, we're trying to give credit for a horse that could not have run better, given the circumstances. Now, I think most people realize that of course, individual rhesus vary. But for the most part late speed is the most important thing on tariff. And that's why we give credit that way and ten points is about as big as you're going to get an turf route ten point bump off the final time figure, but she did check into points higher valley valedictorian with that one twenty two and this is exactly what we're trying to capture with our speed figures were saying, hey, you know, Valich valedictorian won the race. But Risco probably was the better horses day. And you know, we like to show it numerically. Yeah. It has a handicapper, you know, you can get a little too focused on results. Result. Sometimes people will see moving forward that rim. Skah lost. This race is the odds on favourite. And you know, maybe she'll be a higher price next time in tougher spot. And I think she's a horse that you wanna really give a pass for this race. Because if you liked your beforehand, I wouldn't hold this race against her. That was the major graded stakes action from the past weekend. But we did see a really talented horse in action. At Santa Anita on Friday in ax men who was able to rebound from a pretty disappointing effort in the Malibu at the end of December. He came back and beat a believe allowance optional claiming company on he did it the right way. I mean, he was visually. Impressive. He was you know, he'd beat a decent group. I think Edwards going left was in there. Timbers were sues. Name's escaping me. Right now. Shiver me timbers or something like that beat him so solid group. He ran a one eighteen time form US speed figure. So I would say solid. He's definitely if he's going to move back in the stakes company. That's not going to get it done. It's probably one. I'd be looking to go against the if he takes money, which he invariably will probably be by Bob trained by Baffert and then in who he rides. But I mean, I'm not gonna knock the effort. He did what he had to do. Look. Good visually. Just numerically. I wasn't blown away. Yeah. He's a funny horse. It seems like he runs these monstrous speed figures when he has everything go right for him. But when there's a strong is path like he didn't make the lead in the Malibu. He of dueling with him in that race at Churchill, but he didn't Rome. Well last year, it just it just seems like he's not really able to overcome adversity. And I'm always wary. Of course like that. When they moved back up in class often press wins like this because sometimes they're not able to translate translate that form and we'll see if axman. Turn that around but up until now, I'm just a little bit skeptical of him as a top horse. Same here one horse. I did wanna talk about just because I was such a fan of winner memories as winter sunset one in allowance rate. She's a three year old filly one attor fil at the fairgrounds. She's out a tap it and like a lot of tap it. She was kinda goofy. The race didn't want to run street. I think there was even an inquiry into the stretch run. But you know, there wasn't a change may. But I I really think this is one that looked at going forward. She looks like she has a whole bunch of talent. He's won both or starts. She got one hundred time formula speed figure for the effort. And I'm curious to see where this will show up next. The it was kind of bizarre race to watch. Because it was only a five horse field believe, but you had five horses stacked across the track coming to the quarter pole kind of weird ride on the runner up. Also, for whatever reason, I think quarry land resigned her left just this huge gap between him the horse on the down on the rail. I mean, it was enough room for three voices to come through that whole between them coming to the quarter, pole and. Winter sunshine. It was one of those horses kind of squeezing up in there, and she did drift out a little bit. I don't know if it I don't think it really affected the results because she Elsa had every chance to get back on terms with our winter sons it just pulled away. I agree. I was a huge fan of winter memories are members seeing I was at Saratoga when she want her lake George that was like her breakout race, and she was just so impressive that day. I mean, just catch you trouble the quarter pole and just rocketed past the entire field. I think she's only on one of their full up until this point. And he's like a a grade one hundred and Catholics, Dan or something like that. So we're not gonna see him. But winter sunset, I think it's the first one to run in the US. And she seems like she's got some talent see where she goes from here. But she's an everything right up until this point. Speaking of other three year old horses that have been running on the turf recently, a twenty of quick mentioned to just the incredible dominance by Chad Brown in these maiden race from the past weekend. I think there were three made him races between Saturday and Sunday for three year olds Colton and Phillies and key won all of them. With first time starters, the one I think that really stood out to people with Claus who want. I believe the ninth race on Saturday and under pretty respectable speed Baker. She got a trip in front of her. But I think she's a daughter of spice down a home bred for Judd Mont who was visually. Impressive. I thought her victory. Yes. She did. She got to end together. She was she got a ninety seven speed figure, which is definitely like you said good. I do want to caution people with these Gulfstream Park turf speed figures, particularly for maidens, and that they're just they're very difficult to make with the vast array, of course, setups at Gulfstream Park uses. I think that that I go as far as anyone does trying to decipher these races. But you know, when you just constantly changing run-ups throughout the day us two, and sometimes three different rail settings they can be a nightmare. So my only point on that is just don't be too over relying on speed figures coming out of these Gulfstream Park turf races, trust her eyes and a lot of cases. And this this horse looked really good. I do try to validate the numbers as a horses run back, and we'll go back and change them. If I have to. Try not to do that very often. But but the Gulfstream turf races are one one place where it definitely is good to track. Actually, glad you brought that up because you know, it was kind of doing a double take. When I looked at this race in comparison to the twelfth race on the same car, which I think was just another division of the same race which child route. Of course, also one filling him cafe Americano. And I thought she was just as visually impressive. But you look at the time, and they ran I think a second to fifth slower. So obviously, I think it got speed figure just barely above eighty. I will say if you look through the fields. There's no doubt that the quality of between the two divisions wasn't clauses race. There were some more with proven form who had run some fast figures in the prior starts. So it makes a lot of sense the closet on high-speed figure, and we don't know of Catholic. Erica was facing the same caliber force because I believe the runner up and run much slower prior starts, so. While they were visually. Impressive one of the might have been facing a much weaker field. I think you have to be aware of that. But like you were saying these races are hard to compare even though the run of the same courses, I do wanna give one shameless plug. There was a race on Sunday that was between valid point in bar harbor where both first time stars one for Chad Brown one for should mcgahey. I'm gonna be kicking off new video series. I think tomorrow, right? Look at some trips and discuss horses to watch out of these races. And I do want to look at this race from Gulfstream because they're both. I I'm starters. And I think they both had interesting trips to discuss so more on that tomorrow, but bar harbor who was a first ship mcgahey in that race and finished second. I was very impressed by that ores, and I kinda wanna discuss his trip a little more in depth when I get the opportunity. I look forward to hearing that I think that's about all I have for this week. Dave. So I'll let you send us out of here. Yeah. Next week. We'll take a look at the risen star from fairgrounds and the southwest which I think is gonna run on Monday from Oakland park the fairgrounds race has already drawn. But I haven't really taken a look at it yet. It's a large field. So we'll recap those races on Tuesday's show next week. Thanks for listening this week everybody. You can obviously listen on dear F dot com. 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The Matt Bernier Show - Recap Edition - February 11, 2019
"Blue. Bernier show here on TV live dot D R, F dot com. Livestream dot com. Daily racing forms. Twitter handle at DR inside post as well as daily racing forms Facebook page Mining's map, Bernie or you can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is the recap show. We're gonna go back. Take a look at too big stakes races from this past weekend. The Sam f Davis derby points on the line along with the Las virgins oaks points on the line out at Santa Anita. Then we'll dive in to the stakes montage some quick hits. Get you the weekends best from a buyer standpoint. DR f- TV what is on deck for the rest of the week and get you out of here in good order. Hopefully, nice and tight you listen podcast form like most of you, YouTube, soundcloud, I tunes video dot com. Video dot the dot coms will Spotify sometimes that little piece it just all jumbles together in the brain short-circuit Seattle. If you're over on YouTube quick, the subscribe button, give us a rating question comment, whatever it may be below the video player. It's all right there. I take a look at that. Every once in a while you're over on apple podcasts. I tune spot. Fai? However, get your stuff, click the subscribe button and give us a ratings always greatly. Appreciate it. Let's dive right into it silicon Sam f Davis the field for this race three year olds going a mile and sixteenth down in oldsmar Florida at Tampa Bay down the field of nine post time favorite was Knicks. Gonna Nikko go was a horse that ran a very credible and brave race in the Breeders Cup juvenile. He was defeated by two year old champion game winner whose unbeaten at this point yet to make his three year old debut but outside of him. This felt like I shouldn't even say outside of him including him. This felt like a very open race where you could make legitimate cases for a number of horses. And the odds would vary all over the place. The board could be you could very easily. See this race light up Tope board. You'd also see the favor get the job done. Ultimately, what you got in a race that I felt like the pace is going to heat up never happened and one horse took them gate to wire that was well defined. Here's the stretch on Sam f Davis well-defined prevails at odds of seven. Not along the NRA on next appears to be struggling third. They're into the stretch. I'm not upset might be on its well defined Stehlin thread Kentucky, wildcat can Sturge at the leader on the outside. Well, defined down to the local connections. Kathleen, O'Connell Pablo. Morales make every poll. Opening mon-, Kentucky, Wildcats seconds. So will define prevails at odds of seven to one gate, the wire fashion an impressive victory over Kentucky. Wildcat who is two and three quarters length back finishing second as the second choice five to two and third choice. Our excuse me, the third place finisher the he was the third choice. How about that so alive for Pletcher cast Alana, they come from the back of the pack. They round out your trifecta. Let's talk about well defined a little bit more three of seven lifetime five times in the money. Just under a half million dollars in career, earnings owned and bred by stone. Hedge LLC in Florida trained by Kathleen O'Connell individually by pob. Blow Morales and you see the pedigree at the bottom of the horse card. He's by with distinction of medallion mayor named fervor from a number standpoint. This race is respectable. It's not great. It's not bad. It's respectable. A one fourteen time form US rating a ninety three Beyer speed figure for well-defined winning the Sam f Davis the runner up Kentucky, wildcat and eighty nine. Byron one nine time form rating. The problem is the top two will let's just go with the second place. Finisher Kentucky wildcat who was well behind the winner. He was nearly nine links ahead of the third place finisher. And that ultimately to me I said in the stakes preview that we did for this race. I said I'm not going to be having any money in this. It's going to be more sitting back these I don't love anyone in this field. And to be honest, my opinion, I think to me anyway, my opinion, the way I'm looking at things right now was sort of verified and confirmed because this is I have a difficult time looking at this race and thing that we're going to see a major three year old come out of it. Well-defined ran very well. Don't get me wrong. Not trying to take anything away from him. But at the same time, you can't help look at it. We talk about it's the old adage pace makes the race. Well, when no one else goes and look well defined as a fast horse naturally. We know what he's capable of on his best here ninety buyers two year old. But that's when he's out there dictating things on his own when he doesn't get the front. He's a different horse just is plain and simple. Well, this this race here when he's able to just go off and open up for fun, and he's not going blisteringly fast twenty three and one forty seven for the half eleven in three and forty two and three for the final time. I mean, he's he's a horse that's capable of making other horses pay particularly other horses that may not be superstars well defined ran very well. There's nothing set in stone. Cathlene O'Connell said well-defined will let us know. But you would have to imagine that a reasonable next position would be the Tampa Bay derby, which is on March the ninth. But again what happens when there is other speed in the race. And what happens when? Speed gets to the front and now well-defined has to sit is he has -ffective. I'm very dubious, I think he is the kind of horse that really excels when he's just by himself on the front, and I'm not going to completely sit here and say, you know, what I don't think there's any chance of him running well in a race like the Kentucky Derby, but boy, I just I need to see what happens when he goes up against better horses to really make a definitive statement or really kind of form real opinion on well defined. I think he's a talented horse. But what happens when things don't go all your way as far as Kentucky wildcat. You could make the argument that he was one of the better horses in this race. He came in with all the figures. Now, he just needed to prove that he could handle winners. Well, he ran really well in this by he came with a nice bid. I couldn't quite get the loose leader. But he came from well out of it. The problem now in the unfortunate pieces he was eased on Gallup out. And then we find out that his conduct fracture of the right foreleg. I believe is right front. It's not thought to be life-threatening. I believe this is being reported on Monday. I believe he is having surgery today. So needless to say, he is off the Kentucky Derby trail, you take him out of the equation. Now, you're left with just a chasm between the winner and the third place finisher so alive, and I know some people brought up so alive that oh he was making up ground, and he was so far back so alive his brother's vino Rosso, and they run exactly the same. They have no idea. What's going on? It's difficult for me to sit here and look at like so alive and think oh, yes. Absolutely. I want to have a lot of stock in him because he has no idea what he's doing right now. And to be Frank. I don't know how good he actually is after that. Boy, you're you're stuck looking at a number of horses that were stretching out in distance yet some horses that were disappointing including Nikko or K next go. He just did not. He just did not fire. It was not a good effort. He's another horse. I think is best when he's on the lead. And I brought it up. He had done enough as a two year old to war. Favoritism in that final race of his two year old campaign believe those the Kentucky jockey club. He didn't run. Well, there that day. But I thought it was more product of you know, what the ram big in that breeders Futurity ran big in the Breeders Cup, and it was sort of the afterthought, maybe he'd be able to get by and didn't work you come here in this race, and he wasn't necessarily a slim dunk winter. But you gotta do better than he did you gotta do better than finishing double digit lengths behind the winner. I just you know, and now this also continues to make me question the quality of that Breeders Cup juvenile field. And it makes me think, you know, this is really feeling more and more like to me that you want to be taking a look at fresh faces horses that maybe haven't even run in stakes races yet. There was global campaign who ran over at Gulfstream on Saturday afternoon. I know the buyer came back light. But I think the buyer could be on the light side the time form rating for that race was faster, but not brilliant and look from his pedigree. Maybe. Mobile campaign doesn't want to go as far as he's going to need to go in some of these bigger races. But the gist is in the idea is maybe those are the kind of horses that you should be looking at maybe you should be looking at some of the fresh faces some of the three year olds that have not run in stakes races yet because what we've seen so far to me leaves a lot to be desired. We'll find out there's plenty of time here. But so far we're off to a would call it. A tepid started his three year old season. As far as classic kind of horses are concerned k next go wasn't great five star. General wasn't great still. Dreaming wasn't good. Again. I hate to say it just there's not a lot positive for me to say about this race well-defined. We know he can run fast. When he has it all his way. What happens when he doesn't have it all his way, you hope for a speedy recovery for Kentucky wildcat. Hopefully, we see him on the track again. And if we don't hopefully, we get to see him going stand somewhere and be a sire because there's clearly some ability clearly some talents unfortunate that he's come up injured as far as the rest of the field is concerned. I'm not impressed whatsoever. At this point. We're gonna. To wait and see maybe somebody can take giant steps forward. But right now these three year olds the boys anyway, not sold on their chances. Well, is the winner of the Sam f Davis don't know where he's going to go next sounds like a reasonable spot would be the Tampa Bay derby. But the connections are going to let the horse tell them where they're gonna go ninety three Beyer speed figure in one fourteen time form US rating for well-defined winning Sam Davis oaks points on the line Saturday out at Santa Anita. Let's take a look at the field to race number five. This was the loss. Virginis three old Phillies going a mile on the main track. All eyes were on Bella FINA. The one two nine favorite. We know. She basically has done nothing wrong throughout her career. She's proven ADT to turn. She showed that winning the chandeliers a two year old, right? The Breeders Cup didn't work out at Churchill for one reason or another, but she was coming into this race in fantastic form her career Davey or seasonal debut. I should say in the Santa ynez was a smashing victory at seven eighths. Now, we go out to turn. She would have to deal with mother mother little bit equipment change for Baffert's Philly and then at. Rab who was a second-place finisher and a great one late is a two year old old d'amitie get a little bit more of a horse race. I think than many sort of would've imagined sick. Look at the stretch run of the Las virgins, Bella FINA. Now gets her cue and nyah Arabas finishing well calf moon bay on the outside mother mother. It's Bella FINA. Lengthened a half and hour. Rob running the rates of her life trying to get to Bella FINA, Bella FINA, fully extended, and I'll rob on the outside. Bella fana- wins the loss. Virginis three quarters of Bill FINA gets the job done. At odds of one two nine ahead of an I L RAB who was the second choice in here. At odds of six to one rounding trifecta calf moon bay at odds of nineteen to one. Let's take a look at Bella FINA. A little bit more. She is five of seven lifetime. Six times in the exact eight hundred twenty eight thousand dollars in career earnings owned by clean shot Inc. Trained by Simon Callaghan. Bred by j m equine LLC in Kentucky individual by fluffy and Pratt, and you could see the pedigree. At the bottom of the horse card. She is by quality road out of a Malibu moon mayor named Akron moon, ninety Beyer speed figure for Bella FINA in this race eighty nine for an I L rob a little bit of an interesting race, in my opinion. It was a little bit more workmanlike for Bella FINA. I this this race played out. Exactly as we thought it would as far as the pace situation and how they would ride a horse like Bella FINA. We talked about it and stakes preview for the race. We kinda felt like if you're on the best horse go on with it. And that's exactly what floppy and Pratt. Did mother mother did come at her early on the fractions were honest. I don't think they were just, you know, blistering fast. They're honest for a mile twenty three forty six in one ten in one for three quarters stopped the clock in thirty five and four that partially leads me to my mind tepid feeling of the racist a whole, I don't dislike it, but I don't love it because they got their final quarter mile Bill FINA in on an I L RAB in twenty five sixty eight and twenty five thirty respectively. Now you look at it in. Say. L rob to me is a horse that potentially is there's a digital distance maybe benefit a little bit more. But realistically, they both probably should have finished a little bit quicker than they did. I think any way again, we're not talking about blistering fractions you've seen some of these mile races. Where they go forty five to a half. And it Santa Anita. It was relatively fast strip. There's just a part of me that looks at it and says a little bit. You know, it was good. It wasn't great. And it does make me wonder people have brought up the distance possibilities or questions for Bella FINA going forward. I know she's one at a mile and a sixteenth in the past for next start. It sounds like the Santa Anita oaks on April the six as is the same situation for rob. They're going to wait for that race. I wonder at a mile and a sixteenth if you get another honest, pay situation, someone keeps Bella FINA company. Upfront does a horse tonight. I'll rob heavy an even better chance of turning the tables and old down the road, whether the connections of Bella FINA, go on in runner in the Kentucky oaks, she gets there on her own accord, and in good fashion. I do think there is a greater question overall for her. Now, you're not gonna just immediately take a horse that wins big races going to turn just say. Oh, well, you know, she can't do it. If she wins, the Santa Anita oaks, and for one reason or another doesn't work in the Kentucky oaks, I'm sure they will continue on to some other spots. But there is just that part of me in the back of my head wonders long-term is she'll to a sprinter. Is opposed to a mile an eighth type? It's one thing to talk about Santa Anita oaks a mile and a sixteenth. She won the chandeliered a mile in sixteenth even the Breeders Cup where she didn't run all that. Well, that was at a mile and a sixteenth the Kentucky oaks a mile and an eighth, and then you get through the rest of the summer. That's when everything kinda stretches out you get out to the mile and an eighth race. Obviously the mile and a quarter in the Alabama. But the mile and an eighth, you know, in a number of different spots CCA oaks, I believe it's a mile sixteenth for the Elliott. So that everyone's always going to be a little bit of a Twitter. But I do look at it more and more and wonder, you know, as a race the acorn ultimately a little bit better suited for Philly. Like this a one turn mile and then come Breeders Cup time is affiliated there. Sprint going to be a better spot for her as opposed to erase the distaff it is far too early to make definitive statements. But I think these are things that you need to at least consider going forward as far as an I L RAB again, I do feel like perhaps she's one that will appreciate a little bit more ground, and I do wonder too with a running style wonder if. She'll appreciate getting out of southern California. When it's all said and done, I think she's an interesting one in here. As far as the rest of the field is concerned fine effort from calf moon bay mother mother was forward push the pace paid the price late. Ultimately, turn back. I think is needed for her and Tomlin they took a chance. It didn't work out not gonna fault connections for that. But ultimately, Bella FINA prevails more workmanlike than what we've been accustomed to seeing from her and her most of victories. They're usually very very flashy. This one not so much workmanlike, but effective she gets the job done ninety buyer in the Las virgin sounds like the top two. They will have another date on April the sixth and Senate oaks now that wraps up these two big reviews, it will do Nell throat into the quits stakes. Montage, we'll go through a number of different races. You've got San Marcos out at Santa Nita. You get the endeavored down at Tampa. Tampa Bay down at Tampa, the Suncoast you got all sorts of good stuff in there. So we'll go through will rip through the stakes. Montage. I'll come back with some quick hits. We'll get you into the weekends. Best force Beyer. Speed figure performances are concerned. Lead at the top of the stretch and quickly opens up to on Roman. Russell unapologetic had a good trip on the far outside comes beach, view and dab. Stor epochal is coming alive in the center. But in the meantime, platinum or your has a four link lead epochal is closing stoutly beach view on the outside with a late bed. It's going to a platinum warrior to win the San Marcos Epoca was second special event is backpedalled after that mitt race move as valedictorian tries to do it. Every step of mild ago, valedictorian by three and a half in high gear, but running ground peach of a gals now third vagabond Princess van that's up front valedictorian. She at all the way valedictorian Gaito wire to win this one. I'd open as they fanned across that trek along the heart Dardis taking in game Ray Irish straight, his third leader second. Here's inspector Linley. Ortiz works at a toward the rail and up on the outside with a late run. Is diverse Darrow and on the outside. Here comes in a blanket finish out again going after the leader second buddy arch is there toward the rail now racing on third they straightened away in the render the way it's conquest. Hard candy Stellan, here's Oxmoor charging down the center of the racetrack and way on the outside the Vegas that gray horses. Absolutely fine. Huck s'more take it by diminishing three. They'll cut loose at the top of the stretch up to engage Ken with a furlong left ago. Just behind them river Boyne trying to negotiate a very narrow holy and get through and on the outside. True. Valour driving finish Ohio. True valour in the Ken fights on true valour takes the lead. And it's true valour. And Andrea said he told win it from the inside of biding star. Mister Cobb needs out. He gets out. He's up about a challenge for the laid down the center from last. It's every finally of a mile be tries to hold them off here. Henry done center. Mr. cub from between, horses and minutes. Cramps and tape stretch Henry from way back up in time. Second, mr. Continues to grind away third and they straight away and cut to the Meyer in the Suncoast up on the outside point of honor explodes. And now moves to the me along the lady Kate but point of on her in front impressively under heavy air Castellano by widening three lady Kate was seconds week. Diane third winning envelope. We'll try to keep pace with them. But desperate has the upper hand coming to the eighth bull drifts in opens up to sparky. Bill switches to the outside. He's running a giant rates. Dennis sparky Bill. These are the two definite digging sparky bills trying to run him down. Sparky Bill has the momentum desperate as the leave. Sparky gets up to win the same vicinity in a thriller. Desmond thought. In front splashy kisses. There's room at the rail for patchy Princess, and she takes off a patchy Princess quickly puts two links on thriving and splashy kisses. The disarma- brothers will strike in the suite life stakes as patchy Princess is very impressive in victory. She strolls in by three and a half. It's an extremely quick some quick thoughts. Then we'll go into the buyers which the dwarf TV schedule of events, and then we'll get outta here. We'll get you on your way to some quick rips, San Marcos finance for from the top two finishers, platinum Maurier epical, even if you want to include beach, you there third I think the horse that you're most interested in or you should be most interested in coming out of that race from a trip standpoint is Chicago style who never got a chance to run at the top of the lane stacked up behind horses. Finally got a little bit of room late, but it was far too late. Then I thought he he's the one that to me out of that race that you want to give another opportunity to nothing anything from the top two or. Three. I think they all ran quite well thunder road the obvious trip for river Boyne. There's just a part of me though, that looks at. I don't even if he gets through is he really that much better than everyone else from a number standpoint. He's not and I maybe he wins that race. Maybe he doesn't. But if he wins. I don't think he wins by four put it that way. I think he's a nice horse. I just I have a difficult time seeing him as a grade one caliber miler, I think he is sort of living in that range along again, you look look at the horses that were there at the wire, I think that's kind of where he lives right now. Let's he takes that next up forward. I'm not sure that he can run with the best milers. Maybe he would have been best in their if not for the trip, but at the same time, I don't know for certain that he would have been river valedictorian. She absolutely walked the dog in the front end. You like the downgrade that effort a little bit just because of the pace dynamics. On the flipside you'd likely want to give rim ska a little bit of the benefit of the doubt. But to be Frank. I said it when I did the Tampa pick for video if she were to go there. I'm not. Totally sure how good she actually thinks. She's fine. Don't get me wrong. But I don't think she's great one raid. Two caliber, I think she belongs in these races. The figure kinda bear that out. But again, it's very difficult to earn a fest figures for his buyers concern, given a lack of pace going to be difficult for fast final time. I just again, I'm not sold on her better worse against that level with a better pay situation. She can certainly get the job done. I don't know if she's still grade one caliber, the L pro wicked pace helped the horses come from way off cowboy culture of force to wait a little bit before he was able to be produced. He came out with a little bit of a belated bid finish fourth the horse that I absolutely didn't run a lick or never got a chance to run. And I don't know that he would have been a threaten this race. I don't know if he's good enough. But he is the kind of horse that in a little bit of an easier. Spot holiday stone had zero chance go back and watch that tape you can wash the stretch run. He's down there on the inside and those orange and pink silks and he legitimately has nowhere to go. He can't run one. One step at all. He's one that. I think you want to keep an eye on because I wouldn't be crazy. I don't think to see him show up in a non stakes event next time out, but he still might offer a decent price because that running line at face value. If you don't see the trip is gonna look dreadful can ever picked his feet up. He didn't. But for reason, I think he's one that you just at least wanna throw in your force watch one. Keep an eye on going forward base stakes. I don't know that heart can run anymore. He's the kind of horse that in his best form. He would accounted that field given the trip. I only went faster early. But this is hard to heartens is his game. You saw how eager was done the frontside. I just makes me wonder if he's lost a fair amount on that fast. Ball inspector Linley shot up the rail. It was a perfect trip for him saving every of ground the entire way in the pocket. Then he's able to go through down the inside again from a trip standpoint, you probably want downgrade him slightly on like you're gonna work out an ideal trip again, you're next, but the sun coast, I tweeted about it. I'm quite high on point of honor. I thought that was very impressed. Effort from her I'll beat likely on the best part of the race track. As opposed to the Philly that ran second. They're lady Kate. She ended up down on the inside to maybe her effort could have been slightly better. Had she been out on a more favorable portion of the track. But I really was impressed with point of honor will find out alternately where she goes. I think she's a solid one. And I think she could be illegitimate three year old filly here. She's one that we may may still hear some things from her may may I don't know that I wanna go as far as to pin anything on anyone boy early on if I could take a future bet on a horse for a race. Like the oaks, I wouldn't be opposed to taking a look at her. I think point of honors nice Santa Sunday sloppy track. Obviously wanna take everything with the grain of salt, especially in southern California. The fact that sparked Bill was able to overcome being down the inside having to steady at the top of the lane sharply-angled out four five path and still going rundown. Desmond it makes me think that that field. Just is not very good spark villas, a nice horse. But I don't know that. Anyone is looking at him saying he's going to end up being a grade one caliber sprinter Coliseum was disappointing. Again, Desmond thought I thought he ran find. You gotta beat spark Ville, given the trip and sparked feel head. Left something to be desired there and sweet life a beautiful trip for patchy Princess, great ride from Kent. Oh, she's able to shoot up the inside. Like, I said with all those Santini racists on on Sunday with that rain. You gotta just take it all with a little bit of a grain of salt because some of those horses some of them never even seen a wet track before so take all those a little bit of a grain of salt. But perfect trip for Apache Princess, and again, perhaps, you know, usually you don't wanna be betting perfect trip horses back in their next race. But there are different circumstances. Just something to keep an eye on. So there you have some quick hit some quick thoughts from the stakes. Montage this week sick. A look at the weekends best. From a buyer standpoint will go right in order, the three year old males sparky villain, Desmond disarm ninety four buyers at face value. It looks good. I just again, I have a difficult time looking at that saying how how good could that feel be spark Ville, really no business winning that race unless he's just completely turned corner. And now he's turned into a. Potential star who knows three-year-old Phillies under Bella FINA. We talked about her she on ninety in the Las virgins three year old males on grass valid point in eighty one in a maiden special Gulfstream three year old Phillies on turf clause in eighty two in a maiden special weight down at Gulfstream older males on dirt heavy roller a ninety nine in an allowance at Oakland older fillies and mares bluegrass jamboree ninety five an one x the big a older males on grass inspector Linley. We saw that with the one on one buyer in the Tampa Bay steaks, and then older fillies mayors on turf hawks more than ninety five in the endeavor. Don, Tampa there you have two weekends best as far as Beyer. 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#484 - Races of the Year/Farewell (For Now)
"They're about to be rosa. Has it's practically become cliche to refer two thousand twenty as a year. Unlike any we've ever seen we want to turn the page with the hope. That next year will be better but before we wiped the slate completely clean. Let's not forget that racing persevere. During the pandemic operating as self contained ecosystems some race tracks never closed and others. Soon were up and running well before any of the better even missed him and so somewhat amazingly. We have a top ten race list. How many of these gyms do you recall. No matter what the circumstances are great competition will never cease to charm excite an thrall. the matriarch starts out our countdown list at number ten at the site of next year's breeder's cup. Del mar a big stakes. Run on turf. You know which trainer was front and center. Chad brown's two horses were a gambler north. Star as they make their way to the top of the stretch. Juliet foxtrot turns for home in front blowout confronts her once again on the outside schering his third time here continues to close on the outside maximum rate threatening a big one in there too via dare in the mix via deras close again here comes be derived blowout blowout via dera. It's going to be desperately close blowout and via dera stablemates on the way together of atri arc number six via darrow was first number four blowout loose second. Theodora had built up to that race with an ungraded win at the spa and a grade. Three win at for fun after the matriarch joel rosario potential eclipse award winner. Breathlessly said i had to work for that one the week before the shutdown hit when we thought the kentucky oaks would still be run on the first friday of may a major prep came at acqueduct in the forty first butcher steaks with fifty points to the winner given away at number nine. The butcher seemed to be all lake avenue who led comfortably for the first half of the race but the philly that finished second in the previous preps shook off her seventeen to one odds and took up. The chase on the outside is kansas kansas. Who now makes move. Kansas kiss is right along side of lake avenue. Kansas case pokes ahead in front. Then it's water white and kansas. Kansas has opened up now. Kansas cast in front by four nights. Water white is moving into second. it's kansas kansas. But here's a new challenge on the outside and water white kansas drifting out of it. What are white on the outside his head bob in the bushehr entering the winner's circle is number. Six water white water white would run just one more time in two thousand twenty a third in the acorn stakes. One by mean she did not make it to the kentucky. Oaks run in september. Will she race it for her future remains to be seen. The kovic shutdown forced the keeneland spring. Meet to be run in july. A five day event with a royal ascott feel one race. The appalachian is number eight. Now we like kurt. Becker but this call belies the races exciting appeal. Here's all gms to draw along side of evil and they're on even terms walk in marrakesh tries to join them from third has to look toward the far outside a length off the front pair top of the stretch arms. Evil the inside walk in marrakesh far outside a nullah gay fourth passion factor v maria foot six and evil. Lend fight on with walk in marrakesh. And they're between that pair. These three the final furlong walk in marrakesh ahead in front office now. Second evil land backs up to third and nola gate runs late from four walk in marrakesh. Nola gate comes late down to the line had bobbing photo for the win. Nola gay and nola gay dropped a bomb on the field winning in stakes record time in her first start. Since the previous november shug mcgaughey ran her twice more though she failed to hit the board but that day in july was surely one to remember three years ago. Bill mott was on the short end of tough beat at saratoga in the coaching club. American when his filly elat was crowded out on the rail by abel tasman. Bob baffert philly a memory that evokes the coaching club. American oaks this year when modern baffert again. We're involved in a spirited finish the cca oaks number seven on our countdown list. But this time it was baffled diminished crystal ball paris lights and now they're on even terms parasites of the outside of crystal ball. Nothing between them. They've got a link to the half on one hundred third then tonal shape in four areas paris lights on the outside to take the lead over crystal ball. Crystal ball continues to battle on down towards the rail on the outside of the paris lines aunts. What is in third and now they're inside. The co crystal ball at paris lights and we've got a thrilling shreds dole and the coaching club. American to phillies. Come down for the finish. It's gotta be paris lights. I believe despite the modern baffert thing the big winner there was winstar who decided to enter both phillies. Forthwith that race was it for paris lights this year. Her third straight win in the alabama crystal ball would finish fifth a win in june in the las barrera stamped collusion illusion. As one of the top three year olds sprinters on the west coast in early august at del mar a little earlier than usual. This sophomore against his elders went to the post. it's the bing crosby stakes and it's number six. On our list of top ten races would collusion. Illusion reached the wire. I or would four-year-old lexa tony in all ready. A graded stakes winner. Overtake the youngster. With a final spirited burst and it is wildland. Jack who takes the lead after a forty four point. Seven three half mile. Wildland jack coming to the eighth pole the neck. In front law-abiding citizen fights onto inside. Collusion illusion is making a run down toward the rail then hardwood and on the outside lexa. Tony and his flying late collusion alexa. Tony and these two collusion allusion. Then lexa tony one. Two of the wire in the bing crosby number nine collusion illusion was first. We're halfway home in our countdown but before we resume the list we share with you some others that we thought might make it into our top. Ten honorably mentioned the excitement of these raises shouldn't be for naught. Come back this up to take the lead multiplier at derail. Mitt corden between them brown storm running on there in the final furlong in the center. The track combatant multiplier midcourt is fully extended between them. It's combatant justin front multiplier and met court combatant combatant multiplier combatant another win for horota's innis rates digging john sadler and the capture. Our sorry so it is either long weekend or eco town and they come to the wire shoulder to shoulder and throw it down eco town outside long weekend at the rail who's going to put his nose on the wire long weekend river born running on very strongly. It's got stormy in front river. Boyne true dollar at neck cher got stormy just in front riverpoint trying again river. Born god stormy rig. Ma wins that. Frankie carolina high crime is still the leader parlor alongside raging bull trying to find more likewise for war of will parlor puts ahead in front from high crime or of well in third raging boll fourth parlor is in front war if will still second parlor. Well raging bull late charge without parole at the line war of will. Maybe that's bound for newer up to take leave system. Takes up the chase outside. Surrender now then sparky between horses far outside murad khan assisgon takes off on the outside of bound for nowhere knows at no photofinish close number four sistrin i and here comes chasing after bound for nowhere bound for nowhere and leinster totally bosses running late center of the chorus bound for nowhere. Short lead. linnstaedter is right there then. Totally boss lindstedt. Her has struck the lead late. Totally bosses running on bound for whereas there at the line photo for the winter. The shaker town. That's close either lender or totally boss. Linnstaedter firsthand sparky bill shakes loose lusa length and a half wild man. Jack now takes up the chase on the outside further out his texas wedge in a driving. Finish chest as expected. Here's while man. Jack coming now after sparky bill spark bill resilient while man jack here this photo finish. That is too close to call number. Six wild man jack was i. He's against smoking. Decorated invader is asked for more. No word moves through down on the inside. And here's domestic spending on the outside along with colonel a So it's wide open here. It is domestic spending. Domestic spending has the leading shreds late running the outside from gluco domestic spending held by look highly outside grinding it out by nitrous nitrous eastern bay chimes very late to likud nitrous eastern bay three to line three way photo with a fractured francis. Memorial dash trainer. Mike maker doesn't have the success. That chad brown does many race. That's run on the grass in late march. As the world's shutdown maker entered zulu alpha in the panamerican figuring he'd take it with his class but maker entered another horses. Well named obama's boy who finished second stakes race in texas. The panamerican is number five on our list. Don't miss this ending with these. Two horses and mike maker as the nexus moving on zulu alpha. He's five light on the course and here he comes. He was second last he's now third a blitz to the top. Not at the inside. It's dumbest boy and galleon mass to run home from back and now the pace quickens upfront. Its current to take on spooky channel. Three widens zulu alpha on from back in kellyanne nasties four white for bravo then the paradise team of boy and go poke. The bear held up in traffic as channel cat as they turned for home the mile in one thirty eight and three less than a quarter of a mile to go in the pan am zoo. Lava up to challenge current for the top. Current is digging in on the outset. July for right alongside loosen charging. Here's pence boy a wild finish bama's boy one boy boys demos boy in a well judge right from wrong drew. They nailed the leaders in the deep strengths. In win the pen. Them as boy became the first runner for intimacy jeff to win a stakes race. Run at twelve furlongs. That would be it for him this year. He would not go post word again. Zulu alpha at keeneland. One the yell at what used to be hollywood park. The jets became the fifth. Nfl team to win outright as a seventeen point underdog the horse race that weekend. That used to be run. There is now run at los alamos and provided an equally stunning apple law in the low south futurity number four on our list. The fragrant red flag never factored but a horse named for an la sports stars sure did yet l. a.'s best known for its movies and a colt named for one of those stars was running late. So which was the winning bid gates from hamas they sleep around the bend and it's the great one in front via lengthen. Three-quarters from spielberg by western. Red flags on the inside. Spielberg is being able to move a couple of clear of red flags. Now being guided. Off the riots bonanza and petrucci our staking his claim down the extreme outside for six days left to go. And it's the great one still the leader by two lengths from spielberg gap of three or four lengths to red flag. Who has hoisted the white flag but rookie. Getting past him sixteenth left that guy when spielberg's ranging after the great one. The great one is the klingon as spielberg pros down by gauntlet. Spielberg comes at the great kwan. Photo head bobbing finish title the great one or spielberg. The winner is number six spielberg. That's thirteen future. Redes one by bob baffert including all seven at low sow willa seventh run for the roses. Be his next may for spielberg his first stakes win. Are the distance questions about him after this win. By his critics going to be allayed these four authentic cemented horse of the year with the derby classic. He was just another. Bob baffert prospect. We know that even a plow horse baffert sends to the haskell will finish first as every better expects but this year's haskell number three on our top ten countdown list had a wrinkle because authentic seemed to slow up when a victory seemed well in hand then suddenly. It wasn't what authentic end up here. The runner-up authentic new york traffic won't go away. He's trying hard. And dr post finding his best drive but as five to makeup authentic just breezing through the stretch opens up to lead up by three links new york traffic trying so hard and he s closing the gap down. Here comes that traffic authentic new york traffic finish shot a new york traffic. Don't forget about authentic. We'll have more to say about him. But for now let us move on to number two santa anita returned from the shutdown in the second week of may and in one week's time taking a hollywood style q. Came the charlie wittingham stakes a race to take your breath away featuring united one of the best all year on the green. It got physical toward the end of this race. A slobber knocker at was with three possible winners appearing on the scene into the far turn still synthesis and united one to originator me outside multiplier rock emperor. The running order has not changed and desert stone. United takes the lead easily passed. The quarter pole synthesis surrenders originated in the second rock opera on the outside united shakes free with a furlong to go to the half original running. On gamely as rock kemper on the outside rock kemper originator united desert. Stone is trying. Get a piece. And he's coming fast. Rob capper takes the lead close to home and united knows knows rocket burnt united in an absolute tear. Jerker it's very close for the win. Five united was first united. Won the head. Bob and rock emperor moved down to third for bumping origene. Air got the place. United won the eddie read and john henry over the summer but in the breeders cup turf he only managed eight though. All of these races are scintillating there several notches down from the only event we could put at number one until this year just eleven phillies had won a triple crown race and with derby point system. Any chance was all but done but trainer. Kenny make peaks a gambling man and so he entered swiss skydiver on the hilltop in baltimore battle with the derby champ. Authentic is our top race. Even without fans you can feel a mighty roar at here. Is swiss skydiver testing authentic. Now their head to head for the lead. What quarter to go. At pentecost affiliates away swiss skydiver off the derby winner alongside their set for a battle. Baltimore or swiss skydiver. On the outside authentic johnny left-handed swiss skydiver guide our for a long left to go swiss skydiver looking to make preakness history. Another filly bounding toward the sixty paul. Here's go the outside answering the call. Those sluice raviol- an encore wasn't meant to be for swiss skydiver this year. She stumbled at the start of the breeders cup distaff regardless what a year. She had five graded stakes victories. But the colt. She beat wound up with the last laugh. Authentic followed that haskell win by taking the kentucky derby and after that preakness battle he bounced back to claim the breeders cup classic against his elders and so he should be crowned the horse of the year without much flat. We hope you enjoyed our countdown of the races of the year. It brings our podcasts ninth year to a close for now. It appears that in the gate will not have a tenth season. This pods been canceled. It show biz. That's how it goes. We'll work to find a way to reignite this in some form. I have no idea what when where why or how but for now i have some people to thank who've helped make this all possible. So indulge me please. Before our final bow the first. Thanks to austin my approached with this idea. He was an espn audio manager. Ten years ago. Dave said i'd have to do this myself. He could give me no resources. I have now done. Four hundred eighty four of the shows my enduring. Thanks to pete genesee. Who's also a college classmate. For sticking up for the show as the landscape evolved. Let's face it in. The gate doesn't compare in the download department to football shows. That's a problem. I can't saw but pete and the audio team had faith that what we were doing was good. And what a pulled the larger. Espn brand my thanks. To the team to daniel michael gabe. And even keith. My gratitude to them fills all the land and most of all my thanks to you for listening to our shows for liking and re tweeting. Our weekly links. No one likes good things to win like the last day of summer camp. Let's face it saying goodbye really stinks. It really is so two thousand twenty that even this show mustang but will work to keep the in the gate flame blown will work to find a new home in this ever changing landscape and once we do you'll be the first to know. This is the end. The gate podcast. I'm barry abrams. thanks so much take care.
Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 5/26/20--Weekend Recap
"Narrow maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the Jason Beam racing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host Jason. Be Good No. It's not my Monday Tuesday morning. And welcome to the Jason. Be Horse Racing podcast. Holly pulled me the extra day off all day long on Memorial Day. Because you know it's kind of a work day for me as Sunday's normally are inside just kept thinking out Sunday Sunday and then I'd remember that it's not it's Monday in it's Memorial Day. I hope you guys all had a very good holiday weekend. Joined the extra time off. I get to do a little When I little Dade Long Road trip on Saturday watch racing all day Sunday? Wash raising interspersed on the road trip Saturday. Actually a funny story about Max `field and we'll get to that but And then Monday watch racing hung around. We won't be able to recap the end of the card Santa Anita stakes races for Monday. 'cause they are going off after our normal published time. I'll shoot publish around five. Pm Pacific The night before the show comes out because I know a lot of you guys like to listen in the evening time and so we will talk about that tomorrow on Wednesday Excited for this week's guests and shows George L. Branka Join US from Texas Horse Player but owner and Works for the thoroughbred board there. We're GONNA talk some Lonestar. Some Texas racing. He had a nice He popped the late pick five. I think it was Sunday. Churchill for twenty thousand we'll talk about that too So looking forward to having him on I got to meet him at. Nhcd this past year and so we'll talk some Lonestar as I watched a fair bit of Lonestar that we kind of got unlucky with the weather. It rained most of the weekend down there so their turf races off their turf racing down there so I look forward to that. Once the weather gets a little better we'll talk with George on Wednesday show Thursday. I mentioned last week where I was going to try to put this together and we are going to do a little bit of a roundtable dedicated to discussion of watching and using the odds board. The will pays the probables I have a couple of friends who you know. Big Part of their bedding is is doing that and is watching the numbers and watching. You know how things are playing out kind of quote unquote behind the scenes. I mean I know the odds are out there public. But there's interpretation of odds more than just always taking money are always taking money and so we will talk about that a couple of buddies who we've had on here before Josh Hansen Chris. Todd so we'll have that conversation on Thursdays Horse player Thursday show in Friday. We'll be right back. I'll get into the weekend as opening tracks opening around the country. Next weekend boy the stakes drawn for next week Churchill. What was it one of the great threes just loaded with graded stakes winning horses and I forget. Was it the old something another? Forget the names of the races a bad about that. I'm HORRIB- in California. That's where I'm the worst. Add it like because they're all saying a lot of at least and it's like okay. The Santa Margarita the Santa Ana the sand vicinity which one is which is the downhill for the older horses. I guess none of them are the downhill anymore. But I wonder if that will come back sometime soon like I know Santa Anita anytime. There's an injury there. It goes on the newspapers even if it's less than other tracks. I mean they've just kind of been painted into this corner But I wonder if you know the downhill for the covert thing. I think one of the off shoots seems to have been that People got a lot of other stuff to worry about. I mean we know that this all started was when the service Navarro stuff came out. It was barely a peep outside of the racing world about that so I don't know if Cova will have the same effect if the protesters and people that don't like us we'll be Be Backup enforce or will they have to remain six feet apart? So they'll just say screw it we don't want to deal with it anymore but Lots to look back at on this so we get. Why don't we start at Santa Anita and we'll do that? The first part of the show and then we'll shift our focus over to Churchill and I don't know that we'll get to Gulfstream. We might get to the Saturday card a little bit. The Sunday and Monday cars were just total washouts there. They had huge huge amounts of rain. I did the weekend preview on Friday for Gulfstream Saturday. We luckily on the turf there and I was pretty happy with with most of my observations right in a lot of spots and wrong in a couple of spots. But I think I felt like I was reading the races more right than wrong that day. Which is always a good thing you'd never going to. You know scold an entire card but you know like I said overall I think the the thoughts put out on the show. Where we're we're decent ones so happy about that. Churchill on the other hand I mean if if you get a lot of short priced layoff horses. That were big names the year before. If they're all winning on a card I can guarantee you my days not going well and I know that it's situational but I would say that I tend to gravitate towards going against shorter priced comeback types. I mean Max feel the perfect example and I mean it just seemed like every race Churchill. That's what was winning at least on on Saturday. Saw My man Eddie. Dee gave out the late pick five on his His bet share ticket. So happy for ED. Whoever a played along in the the bet share with him on on Monday On Memorial Day so We'll We'll try to get as much of that as we can but I mentioned Santa. Anita WanNa start with the the Saturday card and we'll start with the Daytona stakes which was the fifth race on the program. Doug O'Neill obviously with a pretty big hand here. He had three runners Including Wild Man Jack Including Stubbins and the other one was Murad Khan who I kinda liked is a bit of a price option. I thought this might have been a race to to get a price home. I thought there was some reasons to think while Man Jack could be a little short you know. Texas wedge was kind of the one that scared me the most of the what I would call four logical. But let's take a listen back to Franks call from Saturday. It's the Daytona on the grass at Santa Anita in their often the Daytona Texas wedge comes out. Running Sodas Sisteron in between them wild Man Jack. They're joined at the rail by Sparky Ville in the orange sleeves and stubbins a very close fifth. Another three back to Murad Khan and blame it on the law at the back. Pass the half-mile Pole. They go. Citron narrowly sparky bill at the rail. While Man Jack. Outside of that pair stubbins on the fence. Texas wedges fit three legs off the lead another three to Morad. Khan whose foreign front of blame it on the law it sparky bill coming to the quarter pole. A neck in front of second extreme outside Texas wedge trying to get into it while Man Jack has one from the outside behind them stubbins. Top of the stretch and sparky bill shakes loose a link and a Half Wild Man Jack now takes up the chase on the outside further out is Texas wedge system a driving finish chest as expected. Here's Wild Man Jack Coming. Now after Sparky Bill Sparky Bill Resilient while Man Jack here it is photo finish. That is too close to call a very very tight photo in one that I got wrong. On first glance I really thought spark even one in fact I think the sand and the angle his. I've just been off on it all weekend. There was a there was one race on Sunday. I thought for sure A horse coming through on the inside at one. And he didn't I thought sparky Ville had the nose down at the right time on this one. I was wrong. He didn't wild Man Jack Ended up getting the nose and I kind of said. I thought this was a race to maybe get a price and Sparky Ville was certainly that seventy to one and just missed mean ranch such a game rates for Giovanni Franko Jeff Body. But you're two to one favorite while Man Jack comes back for May Don Mike Smith and gets the win. Stubbins obviously had a bad trip. It was not the best weekend from a trip perspective. I don't think for Umberto Rissoli as much as I kinda heaped. Praise on last weekend tough. He had a couple of tough ones over the weekend. And this was one of and I don't know for sure I mean it's always easy to assign blame when there's trouble to the writer and it's really not always the riders fault you know could could could a horse have been put out in a better spot. Generally there's opportunities for that but you know so. It's kind of one of the things when you commit to the inside like when you get through your a hero and when you don't you're the goat not not the goat like the kids say now but the go like the actual animal And so you know you you make those decisions and he thought I was. I would guess that he probably thought okay. Well this one horse is going to give up some weight in behind the other one and when he comes back I can dive down toward the rail and then it never happened. Seventy two one shot just kept on running but Texas Wedge. Got Going a little bit late and we're just didn't really run a jump so I was definitely wrong on that one but the nice win coming back from Dubai for Wild Man Jack Just very interesting turf sprinter. He is and look forward to see more of him. The China Wittingham on Saturday at Santa Anita and Favouritism actually went the way of rock. Emperor United ended up going off your second choice. I had said I thought rock emperor was was probably a single in those late sequences not the biggest united fan in the world but he ended up going off his a very clear second choice. Those two very much dominated the wagering. Take a listen to the Charlie Wittingham from Saturday at Santa Anita. Five eighths of a mile to go in the Charles Wittingham synthesised leads the way united creeping. Closer and second originator is now clearly third with a half mile to Ron. Multiplier continues to ride the rail and rock emperors getting a little bit closer still four lengths off the lead and desert stone into the far turn still synthesis in united one to originate. Romy outside multiplier rock emperor. The running order has not changed and desert stone. United takes the lead easily passed a quarter pole as synthesis surrenders originator into second rock opera on the outside united shakes free with Furlong Nagoya. Go a link to the half originator running on gamely as as Rock Kemper outside Rock Kemper originator United Desert. Storm is trying to get a piece. And he's coming rock. Catbird takes the League close to home and United Knows Nossa knows rock emperor and united in an absolute tear jerker photo for third between originator and desert stone. It's very close for the win. Well Franken was a tear jerker if you told everybody you thought rock emperor was a single and all the lead up elite races but United. Got The knows that and another one where. I thought watching it live. I said Oh good rock emperor out there and as it turns out it wouldn't matter because he got disqualified from from second place third for interference at the eighth pole and again laid on against originator. I didn't think it was the most severe interference. There was actually a race at Gulfstream on Sunday. Wear a nineteen to one shot win one and everybody I saw on twitter was saying all he interfered and it was. They should've taken him down and I'm like Oh they shouldn't. I'm kind of getting more like like you watch the races in Australia. And they ride very tixx big fields on turf and stuff like that but I for the most part they leave those guys up. And I'm I'm I'm coming around to the Pat Cummings way of thinking when it comes to the category one stuff My disagreements with With some pats thoughts but overall sticky at least brings up some interesting things to talk about and but on the category one stuff. I'm I'm with With Pat I'd rather see that stuff handled. After the fact and more severely than kind of some small time bumping and a half length margin that was never going to get beat and then a disqualification. You know I know I mean. Of course we all liked the rules when they benefit us and we all hate them when when they don't but I don't know it just didn't think it was the the most the most severest severest word I've been at school too long. I forget a lot of that kind of stuff As I mentioned we'll talk about some of the Monday Santa Races on tomorrow show because there was some good ones. Sunday's Card was. I thought rather entertaining. There was it was pretty formed for early on in fact very early on there was one. Incredible performance is horse brickyard. Reid who went like forty three and four for an opening half and just kept going like just blew the doors off. Everybody finished in one zero nine and two but I think like a ninety one buyer for that effort that was early on in the card but like I said it was. It was very formidable for the first five. Raise any early pick five. Wanted to pay four hundred ninety bucks and not the worst or you know craziest form but there was some good races Allowance optional claiming race. Six old good report. Who's the Horse I said I swore one the photo when I watched it live but it was read king in my buddies from a little red feather getting up at nine to two two score a nice victory their polar wind was a good second time starter maiden claiming race? Who didn't run all that? Great in the debut. There was a couple of those golden gate on Sunday as well. And it's it's kind of become one of my favorite angles is looking for horses. Who's know via replay like look for a horse? Who who made a move in their debut might have flattened out they might have gotten off slow and just coming in late but just look for a horse that shows something because they almost always end up decent prices in their second start especially if they're spotted the same level I mean if they plummet in class they're going to get bet just based off of that but it seems like there's just so many six seventy two one shots that they get that one start under their belt. They don't do a whole lot. The horse who does run a pretty good debut who maybe just broke. Sharpen was quick early and ran second or third but had really an impediment. Free trip ends up going off at five to two and it's not there any faster better than this other horse. They just you know in their first learning thing they just had things go their way more and yeah I just I. I saw a bunch of those seem like on Sunday You know but Yes good racist Santidad. On Sunday I watched all of the Sunday card. It was probably got to watch The most stuff but of course the big races Saturday and Monday and like I said we'll talk about the Monday ones coming up on tomorrow. Show lots to talk about from Churchill. Why don't we take our commercial now? We'll split it up. We can come right back and talk to Churchill downs. It's a weekend recap edition Tuesday weekend. Recap petition holiday weekend. Recap addition of the Jason Tracy. 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To find out what offers are available to you all I back here on the Jason Beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires and we will head under the twin spires here to recap the Churchill weekend much as we can of it and there was a lot going on over there and of course we've been blessed with some Big Fields some exciting races. There's been some some big prices. There's been some. There's been a little bit of everything I I as I look back on that Saturday card like I'm I'm well aware of how in general Churchill is not my strongest track whether it is just opinions whether it was Betting whether it was anything I have always struggled there we will persist with. Of course we're talking about the race in there it's awesome and And they spots show. I mean go on but I. I'm pretty openly aware of that. I just don't seem to have a good feel for the for the place and I think it's important as horse players to know that we talked with et about that. We do is year in review. You know about he talked how you know Special Events Pimlico etc had had always been his doubtful and I stink at Pimlico to if preakness time. I'm never right on anything there. there's some tracks. Gulfstream. I feel like is one. Sometimes you know I mean obviously every track you're gonNA have ups and downs. I'm talking about more of a and I know and I'm not saying this because Saturday I was so wrong churchill. It's because I know for me personally. In general over a long term it's just not attract is to have a good field horses. I think are really live. Don't seem to run or says I think of total plays against seem to win I even ran my old numbers at twin spires from back in the day and sure enough I was terrible at Churchill. I mean we're going back to eight nine ten but You know just not great and It's interesting how we can have those circuits and I think we all get you know. We all get sucked into the big days and playing those days. Because it's it's fine and big pools and big big everything but I do think it's important to know. Kinda wear where. You're strong at where you're not strong at but also you know. Try to work to improve added. I mean I I WANNA know why I'm not you know is it because I am. I playing my leaning on horses that are coming from lesser circuits. Am I on the wrong ones? That might not going to the right. Barnes playing against Barnes that regularly Win You know like I said Saturday. And we're going to talk about all five of these great stakes races. That was just one of those days. Where horses who almost never appealed to me horses. That are low prices with question. Marks were winning and it doesn't matter if it's emerald downs Churchill. Downs calder. Naira anywhere when days like that happen. I'm just not going to have a good day. Then you know and I have no problem with that because I e I mean you have to know that you know. Ups and downs are part of this thing even for the folks who are consistent winners over the long term year in year out they turn a profit. They have losing days and they have losing weeks. Sometimes they have losing months But you know the best players are obviously not having losing years and it's the same with poker to same with sports You know in the short term. You're going to have the days like that and you have to just kind of chalk it up to look you know. None of the horses. I liked ran. I did my best. I think my were good. Just wasn't my day. It's all there is to it but let's talk about that Saturday Card Churchill because obviously some some very exciting races both on the undercard but of course the stakes action beginning in Ray seven with the shoddy and the big question mark. Of course the return of Dunbar road who ended up getting up at down to your Three to five favoritism Any you know what she on the four to five on the line right so I think she was kind of right about where at least the oddsmakers thought. And I think we're most of us thought she would be Obviously coming out of a not a dull performance in the distaff but just not her best that was tremendous company. She was keeping but anytime the horses short price layoff three to four mean. There's just a lot of reasons. I think that you could make a case against a horse like that. Let's take a listen back to Travis's call them. We'll see how it played out. She's a Julian borrowed. Both broke near the back of the pack. Chocolate kisses broke. Well EMMA IS THERE. Our Party on the outside comes up with a wide bid and is racing for the top spot movement. Garden settles in behind to be fourth in the early stages. She's a Julie comes away fifth and on the outside that it's another broad racing along and six Dunbar road down inside near the back of the pack and seventh back there with vault there about nine or ten lengths off the lead moving the backstretch run the opening quarter in twenty four and three fifths longshot. Flower party out there. On a two length lead moving down the backstretch run 'em keen to go on from there tugs up to be second on the outside and chocolate kisses cruising along inside racing in third by two. She's a Julie's moving from fourth moonlit guarded inside fifth-ranked Dunbar road who's still six or seven lengths behind with a half mile ago that it's another broad in at the back is vault moving for the far turn flower parties still showing the way are still second getting closer now the half mile. Thomas Forty eight in three-fifths chocolate kisses set to strike in behind while third. She's a Julie. Given more rainforests. Dunbar road is winding up here. Comes Dunbar road fifth fourth and now third and voltage circling on the far outside as well? They're off the turned into the stretch. Emma in front Dunbar wrote the attack chocolate kisses inbetween. Them is running a good racist. Volt down their side of the tractors one for a long to go. Don Borrowed has to dig down deep. Chocolate kisses inside keeps on coming on borrowed fending off so far volt on the outside up into third down to the wire and Dunbar road back in style so Dunbar Road Back into in winning style. I think a very workman-like win a professional win. A closed into relatively soft fractions. I mean they weren't necessarily going all that quick upfront and chocolate kisses. I think that certainly helped her run such a big one. Because she was kind of just sitting you know sitting up alongside a pretty soft pace took advantage of that Ran with 'em who also I thought ran a decent race and vault was wide and far back vault was kind of Horse. I liked and I knew I as I said one of the things. I've really been trying to work on when it comes to talking about these races but also just Looking at the races in general is trying to be very aware of when I think of morning line is not good and how sometimes that I think almost creates an underlay on a horse and we talked about that a lot in recent weeks and I kind of said I thought vault was one of those like we're getting ten to one on that horse like no nobody A. I don't think anybody thought that side of the line make and ended up going off his clear third choice. I was honestly a little surprised. She's Julie took as much money she did. I know she was supposed to be the second choice and You know she was right at the morning. Lots more maker is dead on right with that one. I just I just one of those ones. I really was seeing as as a role super logical contender but You know man. I guess it was right in that sense. I'm just surprised the horse took that much money. Thought Vault would actually take a little more and go off at four to one or something but Dunbar road yet. I mean he just seemed like Chad. Who was a little bit chilly there? That first week we had a lot of seconds and stuff like that but You know those those good barnes like him and and know the say top Barnes baffert him and Asmussen stuff like they can go cold and asks we had that incredible cold streak at Oaklawn. But it's just very unlikely they're going to stay cold for too long and I mean especially in a barn like chat. What the top quality horses that he has and everything so Not Surprised Dunbar. Road got to win but a win less the TEPPAN steaks on the grass and it was sharing. Who rallied from just off the pace? This is another one where I was just like okay. Layoffs the Breeders Cup two year old now three everybody else matures and I thought Manny Franko had her in a very very good spot was able to keep that one out in the clear and Kinda got I jump on everybody else. They came running for the backup. God pass the play both came with with good runs and Pass Plate I was surprised when when off at twenty to one I think was a little bit lower early on. This seemed to see a lot of people that Kinda liked that one The race turf way was pretty darn good the time before last but ended up renting a very very good race for Paul McKee and company but sharing just a A workmanlike win wasn't blowing them away. Late was Kinda holding honest. Discussion came with the rally. And you know just a very very strong wind from sharing racist like this where you know favorite kind of sits you know not a garden trip but a pretty damn good one. I always KINDA WANNA look for horses. Who who maybe had some tricky issues and to me all was not so much of trip issue I thought was kind of in a good spot for of the way for Palk Oh and was unable to keep that momentum in ended up having to settle for fifth place finish as your favourite. I should say and sharing was not the favorite but those to clear choices to me. I thought Domingo had a little bit of trouble in the stretch there was a couple of stretch runners and then walking America who was down on the inside. Kinda got blocked for most of the stretch and to me walk and Marrakesh is. Maybe the one to keep an eye out for next time because people are going to see a seventh place finish. They're going see beaten three and a quarter lengths and I'm sure they'll see some traffic troubles and blocked most stretches the stretch call but certainly not a great trip for that one walk in Marrakesh. Jose Ortiz for Agnosio. Ray I kinda liked the horse in this race or maybe it was just because I was watching that one Throughout much of the stretch drive but it certainly stood out to me as one who might be worth keeping an eye on any a race. The blame stakes. We had the the older runners at a mile for one hundred thousand dollars all these races. One hundred thousand dollar non graded stakes races. And they all seem to be loaded with graded stakes quality horses graded stakes horses. Who are going to be ingrained stakes later. Of course you know the stakes program with Derby missed has been reduced a little bit at Churchill down so that you know these horses need somewhere to run For for our benefit they were running hundred thousand dollar listed events but favoritism here global campaign for Stanley Huffing. Jose Ortiz sent off as. You're kind of tepid to two one favourite. I liked Diamond King on the far outside is is my choice and James was Real bullish on Mr Money. Who took some action at four? Two one seven two on Owen. Dale you had Where else who else took a little money? That was the only single digit ones well. Silver does to ten to one boy. Did he flew up? Maybe a little higher than I thought he would But let's take a listen back to What was a pretty exciting of the blame steaks and the RAF always mining was squeezed back at the start global campaign not the best of starts either long range taty inside draws up close. Here comes ever fast backyard. Heaven is there snappers sinclair and on the far outside diamond king showing his speed to as they hit up the shoot and race for the main track word is backyard heaven and diamond king to go head to head. Us Cross onto the main track backyard. Been on the inside. Diamond King racing outside silver does not far behind running along in third snappers and clearing the clear racing fourth. Mr Money comes away. Fifth at his five lengths off the lead ever fast toward the inside right along the rail long range Taty. They're moving up together. Fifth and sixth. Mr Money is back into seven. The global campaign comes away mid pack running along five lengths off the leaders at break a three from there back to always mining Owen. Dale is third to last early just ahead of discreet lover extraordinary trailer. The round the fire turn diamond king takes over the quarter in twenty two and three the half and forty five and three pace has been solid diamond king in front backyard. Heaven Right There Silver Dust Mr money rallies up on the outside into fourth ever fast has a shot right in behind fifth snap percent Clare six global campaigns under pressure. Back in seventh there off the turn here comes silver. Dustin MR money coming after the lead now ever fast dives down inside with longshot. Chance forever fast and Owen. Dale is rolling down the center. Churchill. Downs SILVER DUST IN FRONT. Ever FAST DOWN INSIDE. Oh and continues to close. Mr Money gives way late. Fifty yards to go over dust ever fast Owen Dale. Here's the wire. Oh del Yes. Oh and Dale got there. Oh Man I just. I hated that horse. And that's I didn't think the pace was gonna boil over quite as much as he didn't boil over but you know they were. They were cooking with gas up front. It certainly setup for someone to come off the pace and turning for home. I thought silver. Dust was that horse. That was just sitting the perfect trip and for a split second. Thought he was going to kind of edge away and to ever fast credit. I mean he really battled down there in between horses kind of dam on the inside never was in what I would call a great spot in my opinion. And then when he he kinda got clear daylight it looked like silver dust had the momentum past him and he just kept paddling. I mean to me. He was never much of a battler. He was always dropped. Way Way way back and kind of plot into fourth and once in a while better than that Went for Jackson in this. Start for the for the first time he was with that barn. Think it was wasn't it or had he been now. That was the second start for sisters and the for the actually it was closer up last time and so it's just a complete change in tactics. I mean I know each showed a little more speed in the Fayette for Romans. Last fall but Sisters sin is obviously injected. A little more speed and boy. I mean he's just Showed some heart. That hadn't really seen from him. And you got twenty eight to one in the second position if you if you did like it but Owen. Dale last early on kind of started making his way down toward the inside and Florence swum out and the length of that Churchill stretch sometimes comes into play and he was just able to mow down. I mean maybe he's improved horse You Know Brad Cox has a way of doing that You know I mean He. He obviously was good last year. He just didn't think you should. He was coming off a second place finish in a big race. I mean I just didn't see it. I just didn't see Mr Money. I think it's I'm GONNA I'M GONNA put him in the winter circle next time because I just think it might be time to kind of give up on that I think we've seen that. He's capable of good runs and you know. He had a couple of including that West Virginia Derby but also that Matt win where he was pretty damn good and he got real hot there for a little bit. Even losing the Pennsylvania. Derby ran a pretty good race and then a couple of duds. I'm kind of had everything set up for me was a little bit wide. But he was out in the clear and when they straightened out just didn't have any oath and own debs ran right by on the outside and so he should win next time out because like I said I am. I'm over it. I'm over him. American anthem scratched out of the race. Certainly and then diamond king I mean I thought he was kind of in a good spot to and just they went a little bit too quick and he'd just not quite as good as some of those other ones and faded to what he finished. Seventh seventh and global campaign was Down the rail switched out and again another one. Just didn't really come up with a run. You know his his his comeback effort was obviously a very strong wind. Data Gulfstream Park. And you know he's someone who's run really really big at Gulfstream. I know he ran well in the Peter Pan as well but You know sometimes those Gulfstream horses. They don't necessarily translate as well when they leave the friendly confines of South Florida. The Matt Winn stakes your tenth and featured event Max feel of course sixty five was actually a little bit lower. I think during a good chunk of the bedding and I was a big New York traffic fan again. I said he'd come down from his morning. Line all the way down to seventy two pneumatic at five two year second choice. Little money on major fed who was drawn to the far outside. Let's take a listen back to the call. The met Wednesday of course Derby points race now and they're off in the Win New York Traffic Pokka Lopez put some right in front celtics. Strikers showing speed pneumatic is up. Close as well Max. Field not far behind attachment rate is five wide. Major Fed spun out six wide in that clubhouse turn they move around the opening. Terminator Celtics striker out to set. The pace pneumatic in tight toward the running and second year traffic into now back soft. Just a bit to be third. Four wide for attachment rate. Major Fed spun out wide the entire clubhouse turn necker island sticking up on the inside to grab fifth now. Flap Jack back into six. Major Fed runs along seventh. Max Field comes away at eighth but is only about three lengths off the lead with five furlongs to go shake. Some action is at the back with informative. The opening quarter in twenty four seconds flat not a lot of pace as they. Move down the backstretch. Celtic striker room at the inside. Four pneumatic pneumatic comes on through the as they raise for the fire. Turn New York traffic three widened. Putting in a bid now necker island set to strike while in behind attachment rate. Is There Flap Jack? Right in the thick of it. Major Fed has been wide on both turns. Max Field is asked to go now for links to make up at his forced to go wide shake some action and informative racing for the top of the stretch. New York. Traffic and pneumatic pneumatic. Tries TO CUT THE CORNER OFF TO TURN NEW YORK. Traffic comes a little bit wide these to hook up with three sixteenths to go New York. Traffics and Front Max. Field is making progress here comes Mex- rallying boldly down the track near traffic. Wanders outside pneumatic digs in Mex field continues to close new. Your traffic and Max field pneumatic is down inside. Mex- field is thinking Derby feel gets the win and I want to a little story about this race. How I watched I mentioned. I took a little road trip on Saturday. We went out to the Olympic peninsula. And MY FRIEND CARL. You Guys. Of course remember from the jury so we're driving like just past forks Washington which is very rural part of the state. And I pull out my phone. I'm in the passenger seat and I go. Oh it's it's They're going into the game for the for the Matt. Win Max Field. I know then I said I go. Wow Max fields six to five or even money or whatever it was and Carlito's Oh my God and like Kinda I snap back like what's the matter and she points and we were passing Max Field Road? The road was called Max. Field wrote SA- She slams on the brakes turns US around. I mean there's nobody else out there and goes up so she can take a picture of me watching the race with the sign in the background and then he wins so I told her we have to that he is now are Derby horse and we have to go drive out there on the first Saturday in September which is going to be tough for me. Because I'm going to be in Richmond Virginia like 'til a week before that so I don't know if I can get back for that but we'll try we'll try but Jose Ortiz. I mean certainly kind of looked like he was having asked Max Field on the turn and obviously I start back. I start against three year olds. I mean there was to me so many reasons to be against this horse and my kind of train of thought on him has always been that. He's kept this high level thought in people's minds because he hasn't done anything wrong yet and he missed a lot of Dances and you know. It's asking horse a lot to to just keep on winning even if they become three. But you know look beat to me. I thought New York traffic. I was a little surprised. Didn't go to the lead especially when they were putting up pretty moderate fractions when they put up the forty one. I'm like why is he stalking? And maybe they're trying to teach him something new. Or what have you? But as they appealed into the lane I thought he was going to kind of kick on the and he didn't quite did but he didn't. He didn't power way but him and pneumatic. Did start to edge a little bit from the rest of them and To me what was impressive about Max feel was that he came and got two horses that were kind of running away from everybody and the last quarter. They pretty much the last three quarters where all about the same which you know dirt route races is not all that common. And so for Max. `field who was closing the final sixteenth there in in six seconds and he was still making up ground when they got to that point so. I mean that last quarter I would guess sub I mean sub twenty four which is pretty impressive especially considering he was a little white so I thought it was a big effort. I thought he ran down. These pneumatic is a really neat. Little addition to this this three year old puzzle right. I mean he's still very lightly raced but this was his first. Try AGAINST STAKES Company. Obviously he drew a pretty salty group to do it against and he ran a pretty damn good one Attachment rate for fourth. He was a ways back. I mean those top three were really Set apart from everybody but you know attachment right was not in a great spot. The first I was very wide he was inbetween horses and he was still he was still around at the end whereas major fed who was wide on the first turn really badly and the second turn was not and so. I think it says a little something about attachment rated gutsy performance there to finish up and forth but yeah I mean I don't have enough good things to say about Max fields effort. I thought it was. It was just really good and like I said I'm fine to go against those kind of horses at sixty five and you know he he beat me and okay but as far as his considerations for the first Saturday in September I mean. Obviously the point helps. I'm sure they're thrilled about that and Brendan now. Can you know when we brandon on a few weeks ago I mean he was still very positive about the horse and was proven very very right with a Nice Win New York traffic? I think they've they said that they're entertaining. Belmont with him. It's crazy that the Belmont a couple of weeks like it just doesn't seem yeah. It just seems strange. I guess but yeah. We'll see where everybody ends up does nomadic do they try to go in there with him. I mean I you know we. We've already heard a few the derby trail horses who are going to wait on the Belmont. Obviously the distance is very good for some and probably not as good for others. And it's probably not as good for some of the others who were hoping you know. The charlatans and Nidal's would stay away if they ran a mile and a half and so it's GonNa be real interesting to see how many they get who all shows up for it. And what have you and obviously You New York reopening the races here in a little while. We'll won't Kinda help help with the paint. The picture of racing in New York in general right I mean I think Which riders go back which one day etc so it could be interesting to hear Who Goes where who stays in Louisville who you know? I mean if some of the ones that have stayed in Florida if they stay down there will be interesting to see how it shakes out. And then as food like straight won the finale the war chance steak such sat right off the the pace of a longshot leader in island commission and I mean really one pretty damn easily as pixel closed from the back and feel pass ended up. Getting third is your favorite but not a lot of drama in that race. Just a five to one shot that Saturday trip under Johnny v for Mike McCarthy Mike McCarthy's role in pretty good right now. I mean he's been wrong. Pretty good for a little while. Seems like some of those kind of middle-sized Barnes mark lasts been getting real hot lately out on the West Coast And Mike McCarthy men his horses last weekend in Oakland they were running good and they've continued it over to Churchill downs so There's a look back at the weekend. That was like I said. I watched a lot of the Gulf stream Saturday card and I talked about it in the preview show on Friday and was very happy with how things went in terms of my opinions on those races. So not much sense in checking out that one because th- races already over but I think I think we include some some good nuggets discuss as I mentioned we will look back at the Sanity Memorial Day stakes action On tomorrow show. We're going to welcome in George Allen Bryant from Texas will talk some Lonestar racing with with George and then we'll have the boys on Thursday to talk about reading the board reading. The odds will as the probables all that. And how do we incorporate that into our handicapping and horse play? I'm looking forward to both of those discussions as we go throughout the week. You can always email me. Jason Charles Beaming gmail.com. Hope you guys Holiday weekend was great. Hope everybody's recharged ready to end the month of May and head into the month of June and this is just been the weirdest year hasn't it? It really has but June going to be a fun. One I'm going to be going back on the road in the not too distant future. So we'll we'll talk about that and much much more as we continue on here. It's the Jason Be More Tracy podcasts. We'll see guys back tomorrow. Everybody have a great rest of your Tuesday.
Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 3/23/20--Weekend Recap
"Maximum security has been defeated king for a day. This is the Jason Beam. Horseracing podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for Horse Racing News interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host. Jason be good Monday morning. All welcome in the Jason. Being horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. Monday march the twenty third. We're still here still here all of us because I mean if you're listening you're still here and I'm talking I'm still here but Happy to be with you guys. Hope everybody's weekend went. Okay the the weird thing in all of this is is time like Saturday and Friday. No real different than Thursday and Wednesday other than heavy job responsibilities but when your job for at least in my cases working from home it's like it just every dick gotta feels the same now which is not the most fun thing but I had a great day Friday. I went out and took a walk in a park couple miles away around the lake. I did a little youtube video of it just as you know again looking for things to do is far in my free time as far as creative or or fun stuff and so it was nice to get out and walk around at turn twitter off for the day. I noticed that was probably my best emotional feeling day since this whole thing is really started in gotten very very serious. Thursday was probably my worst day when I finished the show. I think some of it was just knowing that I had you know. Forty eight hours of kind of dead time. Even though I knew Saturday I didn't actually. I shouldn't say I knew Saturday. There was good racing. I there was scheduled racing. We're GONNA talk about all the racing from Saturday and all of the news in the world of horse racing. That again just keeps coming at US every day. There's something new being canceled being changed. Or what have you so? We'll try to keep up as much as we can. But yeah Thursday when I left the House after upload those show and I'm like okay it's the weekend and usually Thursday night. I'll try to go out for dinner. Just get out of the House and go do some but kind of limited to to what we can do right now so took my walk and I found myself getting real sad like just in the sense of. There's such an overwhelming feeling in cloud over the world right now in a lot of that is the unknown and a lot of it is the fact that we know that tons and tons of people are going to have died or are going to get really sick and everybody's a little bit scared. Some people aren't scared there. There's people that show on the news that are basically disobeying every recommended way to dissipate this whole thing faster. And that's absolutely infuriating. Tried to do your best. I mean my only ventures out to the park where I'm by myself. Nobody's within fifty feet of me at any time and and to the grocery store which I went at six in the morning the other day so that way you know I thought it would be pretty uncrowded. There was probably twenty five or thirty people in the store it was. It was busy by any sense but you could tell there the rest of them were of in the same boat as me like trying to get in and out and doing a squeeze you can sanitize your hands the second you get out of there and wash your hands the second you get home. I mean it's just it's not a great way to live but how gotta live right now and I just hope you guys are all doing okay. As I said as long as they'll let me I will be here doing a show. We have scheduled for this week as I said last week. It's probably going to be a little bit day to day because of everything that's happening happening so fast guests are obviously their lives are a little more. They can't really plan too many days in advance. So I'm going to kind of try to book to show just the day before day before kind of thing. Marquette is GonNa Join US tomorrow trainer. We've had on the show several times. He had a nice win on Saturday. We'll talk about that and some of his other horses. He's training data Gulfstream. It Kinda WanNa just talk about what racing like down there. What training is like down? There is they've continued to race in south Florida. And of course Florida Derby weekend coming up next weekend fairgrounds ended their season after Louisiana Derby and New Orleans. It's kind of become a when I say a hotspot corona thing. I feel like every place is going to be a hot spot. It's just that some of them. Are you know happening sooner than later? Seattle obviously was kind of the first epicenter and so that's why it's viewed as a hospital. I think a lot of places are going to catch up as we get going here. But in fact that's happened with with California and New York and all that kind of stuff and you probably don't WanNa hear as much about this stuff so I probably should talk but I think my approach to covering it is more so covering it in how it affects horse racing and In our little world but curious to talk to mark about what's how it's been working down at Gulfstream Park the procedures that have been put in place and just kind of his life as a thoroughbred trainer and a small business owner with employees throughout this this pandemic so marquette will join us tomorrow. We're supposed to have this. This is kind of the Asterix because I asked a person who is a general manager a pretty large race track come on the show and he said that he would be happy to however he would have to get back to me Monday because to quote him. Everything's changing every other minute. So he goes he goes. I'd be delighted to. I hope I can and and let me just give back to you Monday. So we'll hope that that's on the schedule for Wednesday. I've met this gentleman a couple times. Have a good respect for him as someone who runs a race track and is running attracted still running right now so I thought it would be interesting to to kind of touch on that experience and what it's like haven't done anything yet for horse player. Thursday I do think it would be nice to go back to. Maybe a little bit of a more traditional Horse Player. Thursday in the sense of you know maybe maybe talk to just a horse player interview them about their life in the game and all that kind of stuff as opposed to you know maybe a specific one for Florida Derby Day but Florida Derby and by the way. It was announced that the Florida Derby Day. Purses were slashed. A fair bit with no money coming in from the casino and no on-track handled Gulfstream lower. The Florida Derby purse to seven hundred fifty. I think it was and a couple of the UNDERCARD stakes as well. But it's still going to be a big card so we'll certainly talk about it more as we go throughout the week and our buddies and the jury will continue to to check in with us. So that's kind of where we're at right now for this This Monday show. I said have not heard anything from from the. What's the word? I'm looking for corporate headquarters telling me to do anything other than what we're doing so I'm GonNa do that as long as the let me and happy to be here. It's it's made for a little bit of You know fun and something to do. I just read the idea of sitting around for for two months to enough and it sounds. It sounds very scary. But let's talk about Saturday which ended up being closing day Louisiana now Louisiana fairgrounds down New Orleans the Louisiana Derby signature race on the car. We talked all about the the four big races with Frank mcgaughey and Gary Palmesano last week and I was a bit surprised for the Derby itself for a few reasons one. I was surprised at wells by you. Went offers you three. To one favorite. I would have thought it would have been enforceable. Just because he's kind of been the consistent one. I thought silver state did not take much. Money ended up going off at seven to one. Royal Act at eight to one major fed who I kinda liked was eight to one and so little surprise wells by you went off that as not only favorite but I guess he wasn't that much of a favorite. He was fifty cents on the dollar lower than enforceable but not and not even because the morning line was higher on him. Because I truly thought that with over prospect or not running all that great behind the Daba. Maybe it's because it was in the middle and also figured I thought the pace would be somewhat decent but anyways let's take a listen back to John G Dooley's call of the Louisiana Derby from this past Saturday at the fairgrounds and they're off the transpires dot com. But we've got a derby twenty twenty and there's wells by you going toward the leaning four four roll Andrew Wells by you pass the stands. New York traffic every three sharecropper while actors also front rank and monitors looks position as they head toward the first turn bell money also part of this front wave by you who eats them into the clubhouse third wells. Bhai you dictate terms to money against the Rail New York traffic and in between Horses Chester town. Modernist is running wide as go to the back of the track with Tressler town now running in fifth sixth and seventh sharecroppers eighth when it's not been ninth comes enforceable. The lecompte winter in tenth was six months ago for the chucky has the backing track. Julian that Peru saving ground at the site is shake some action followed by Portos y Louisiana Bread Social Fleet and in the red. Major Fed is last of the fourteen. The quarter of twenty three point fifty six half final farewells value and a flat forty eight seconds with Laurent through the pilot wells by you continues to dictate them. Four furlongs from home. It's wells by you. Who LEADS NEW YORK TRAFFIC MAILMAN? Money third saving grounded both turns modernist in fourth and finally therefore junior Alvarado and they have three furlongs to go and wells by you. Mr Town fitting driven point on deterred enforce was picking up outside past boil. Act Up shake. Some action for the inside sharecropper followed by silver state wide. Major Fed. We'd throwback that intersocial fleet with Lynch mob Porto's Fourteenth Street into three quarters was one point forty to the longtime leader is wells by. You New York traffic drifts off that fine for long out from wells by you who's still finding rates by three hundred traffic bonuses. A one piece third major fed enforceable takes the inside but it's wells by you wells. Bu a New York traffic wells by Randall. Spins FIRES DOT COM? We janitor being again. This was just a head scratcher to be. I mean. Of course you look back at the program and you're like well you know well by force he's going to be prominent up on the early lead or at least be part of the mix and. I really thought New York traffic was going to go with them. I didn't think he had much of a choice other than that. I thought that lives map would have been a little bit more for the place and I thought modernist might try to go up there. I mean I know at an early point horses career. A lot of trainers are more than happy to kind of try to to learn lessons. Because you know they know that in the Kentucky Derby you're most likely not going to just be able to go coast up front unless you're just a total speed ball so you know maybe they wanna find out. Hey let's see if this horse can rate Especially one that maybe are like modernists. That's already won the fifty point. Maybe they wanna see you hit. Let's see if he can come from off the pace. Yes it's A. You know a a million dollar race yes. They're six hundred thousand dollars up for grabs for first but if he runs second or third and doesn't fires shot or whatever he liked to rate least we find that out now and not on the first Saturday in. May kind of thing so I get that. Maybe that's a reason they would take him back or take other horses back and it wasn't like wells by you was completely crawling but certainly not flying out just did it so comfortably and New York traffic second the entire way around and they were well clear if everybody. Nobody really made any kind of impression in this race at all. When they turned for home I was just like. Can't they really just let flatten? You know Brad Cox had a monster day and we'll talk about that and maybe Brad Cox being so hot and winning. It's such a huge percentage is just part of the reason the source took so much money. And you know looking back at you know. Of course every twenty twenty in hindsight right but I still just I. I don't I don't see it like I'm just like I mean I is numbers. Put Him as the top rated choice on prime power and yet you know staring me right in the face and I think I was just so not moved by the effort behind silver prospector. Because yes he dug in a little bit but he had everything is way up there and I know they went a little bit faster that day. But you know he's lightly raced. Brad Cox said is just killing them right now. He always does but seems like he's extra hot as of late but I still just. I was just a race where I was just not seeing it that way. I thought New York traffic would prove a little bit more of a nemesis early heated naughty kind of ran. The the body express race right like didn't didn't just sat second the entire way around behind a pretty good speed type horse. Picks up a ton of points where you get fifty points for finishing second in that race and Sir Forty or something like that and of course for years you finish first or second these top races and you get right in because of the uncertainty of the the new point system. We don't know what it's going to be. What new races are going to be added? You would think obviously that the horses that win these hundred preps will get it. I mean I would think that they would create the system. So there's no way that anybody who wins one of these one hundred point perhaps doesn't get in and and because so many tracks pushed there starts in the. Derby still knock on wood three months away for no five months away. What am I talking about? September fifth a long way from now and so. I know that everything is very uncertain in the in the near future. But there's a lot of time between now and then but I would think that if you went one hundred point race and probably if you finish second year you're having a good shot to get into the Kentucky Derby. I can't imagine that they'd add racist but who knows they might. This new system is is kind of unprecedented and New York. Traffic deserves credit for that. Second place run and I thought that Major Fan ran a pretty good one coming from as far back as he was I mean modernist. Who finished third was four throughout. I mean it really was kind of a merry go round. But was major fatty. Here's what I get caught up into these kind of horses. Was He just passing a lot of tired and not so great horses? I mean there's a lot of big long shot in there and there's a lot of horses that did no running that were done on the turn and you know if your horses died by the top of the stretch. You know you're not you know it's a long quarter mile and so is easy as I've gotten onto horses times where they were running at the end and they didn't get the setup you know you try to close into a race where nobody closed data but you know he's still was what five links winter for four three quarters off the winter so as much as I want to get excited and still like make your head. I don't know that I can't so I might have just put him in the winner's circle the Derby but but outside of that with enforceable kind of started to make his run and obviously got passed by major fed late but I still think he is an honest sword. I don't know if he's the kind I want to win the Derby. Or what have you? But I still think he's GonNa be okay as the year goes on and he puts it his run every time he was out very very wide in this race and so I didn't lose too much respect for him. I think he was kind of a good horse to play against on top in this spot and again I I know hindsight's twenty twenty. But you know he he kinda whenever you're closer like that be dirt or turf more so I think on dirt always have to get a little something to go your way and I guess too because you have to avoid traffic or swing wider. What have you so you're always a little susceptible to having what happened happened? Where the top couple? Just get out there. And they don't turn back. Throw up twenty fours and twenty four and two twenty two and twenty fives. And it's just hard to close in and catch horses like that that are still fresh and the distance of the racist to me kind of makes how it played out almost seem a little bit more predictable in the sense that. How many times have we seen longer races? Where they just you know. Everybody knows they're going a little bit further so they just hold hold. Hold hold hold. And next thing you know Florida's just taken the money and throwing it right. His back pocket. But he and Brad Cox team up for a big win. In the Louisiana Derby the fairgrounds oaks also sponsored by our good friends at twin. Spires heavy favoritism. Of course finite your one defy favourite and then cannabis slew of four horses between six to one nine two one. Bonnie south getting good support coming off the win at oaklawn temperatures rising who was fourth last time behind finite but did come running a little bit at nine to one into an Komo from Ecuador was seventy one and nine two one on stop shop and Tammy let's take a listen back to the oaks call from John Dewey. They're off any transpires DOT COM fairgrounds. Twenty twenty temperature's rising bobbled at the start there's French froze going right out till he them for Mitchell. Moral so French rose turns on the scene and leans stopshop Tammy and toward the Inside Is Antoinette. Ithaca Dolphin blue was right. That French Roses Hills as these three hundred phillies. Go to the back of the track. Finite fourth empoisoned here in the early stages. Then it's a break of three more to tempers. Rising was running second to the last handful. Roll Andrew Bonding South trails. The three Phillies sextet the opening quarter twenty four thirty seconds. It's French rose. Who Leans by three quarters as Corey? Monory has stepped up and. Tammy the gray right there with the front runner. French froze junior Alvarado Antoinette. His still keen up the inside. Ricardo Santana junior plotting his move with finite WHO's four. Thami outside or break a three and a half then to temporizing. He's being asked to pick up now a half mile from home by Julian Peru. Bonnie south remains last mile for French froze pumped by. Stop Shopping Timmy. In forty seven point nine thousand one they around the far turn stop shopping. Tammy outside of French froze and these two on even terms mid-point Dhamma turned booming for stop shopping. Tam Froze is finite. Who's coming now? Temperatures rising picking up outside of finite as they closed phillies ranks at the Quarter Pole Antoinette. Then Bonnie South outside three quarters of women at twelve point sixty six seconds finite test taking the lead a furlong out. Its financial leans tempers wising. Who's charging bonding? South is bearing down. They come pass the Sixteenth Bonnie south up to take the lead four full wrong jarrow and the twin spires dot com fairgrounds oaks. It's Bonnie South. Who Bounce home by two and a half peppers wising second and third at one to five finite finished so Bonnie south getting the upset win here I mean not not the hugest of odd six to one but I think in the scale of the pick fours and fives and everything as I said on. Friday night was going to be the place where the most people I think. Parked their you know their fate because it was pretty impressive winning last time out. Beat a couple of these and of course beat British shitty now body south. Interestingly enough the maiden breaker was not a maiden breaker was second beaten for that day Oh Serafina beater by four and. I don't see any kind of trouble marks in the past performance I could go back and watch the replay. But I'M NOT GONNA I'm guessing. It was one of the Joe Joe. Sharp forces who got disqualified after the fact for overages but regardless came back with a nice closing one last time and was able to kind of replicate it. I mean it was way back early on you know seven or eight lengths behind and just kind of stormed home. What was really interesting to me was finite I thought was kind of in a in a good spot for Santana early on and as they came around to the quarter pole got a little bit of pressure for God. Who Was it was tempers? Rising can looped up right alongside and Kinda was and they turned into the stretch. They were kind of near level and then all of a sudden finite took off. I mean finding it really got into the bit at the top of the stretch looked for a split second at least to me that she was going to win and shortly after that her kick was very short lived. And I don't know if it's the distance I don't know if it's just hey you know. Maybe she ran her best race last time. I don't know if it's maybe she's just not the head good. These are all things that you get to debate as a handicapper but if you watch she kicks away for a split second and kind of looks like she's going to go on with it and then about the poll just starts breathing fire and here comes. Temperatures rising and here comes Bonnie South and they just blow right on by and finite ended up getting beaten for for third and had to settle for fourth place. Money so interesting race to watch and again Brad Cox. It just continues to light up and we'll say his name again in the next race. 'cause Muniz memorial on the grass and still regard ended up going off from a five to one morning line as your favourite Chad Brown. No no surprises here. You know we talked about that on the roundtable. We thought this one would go off at short price but ended up going off a two one. Synchrony of course the fairgrounds favored at seventy two year. Second Choice Rock Emperor at five to one channel maker. Five when he got he seems to be four five six two one no matter where they wear he races. That's that's just what he's going to go off at. Let's take a listen back to the call to Mervyn. Menas think running on the outside for Joe Bravo fellow by Bundy Brunen and after breaking really really slow dot matrix trails after the nine along starts the quarter at twenty three point forty nine. They left the half-mile pole behind in forty seven point. Ninety four to the far side of the fairgrounds course factor this continues to lead Marceau but now with three furlongs to go factor this by a half to three quarters tomorrow. Don't blame bucket. Dhakhwa PHOBIA Secretary of war. Channel makers wide factor this at the turn in hemmings joins still regard then Buck Emperor. Synchrony leads to their bunny. Boonen Dot Matrix homeward bound. Three-quarters Money Levin Point forty-six factor. This fact that is driven by Sean. Bridgman gets those left-handers still leads by four. Don't play pocket between Horses Phobia on the outside is brought. Kemper Channel Maker of heals all the way factor this and I'm your nose memorial factor. This one by four don't play. Markets Second Buck Kemper Third Phobia. Fourth so factor. This basically exactly as he had done last time goes to the front in the fairgrounds. Last time he was second early on in the Colonel Bradley kind of one paste. That was the day that don't rocket had that perfect trip. He was kind of battling early on but still Duggan held for third. Like hindsight him in the fairgrounds stake. Seems really like a logical bad after doing all that work in the race for the however this time it looked like there was going to be a little more pace. Well he just skipped right along after a couple of breaks and nobody else going with the Marzo who I kinda liked as a long shot at fifty five to one was sitting in the catbird seat. He just didn't he's just not quite with the rest of these. Don't blame rocket again. Found himself in a good spot which I kind of talked about potentially could happen in this race. But it's just hard to real in a loose Brad Cox source that might be the lesson from from Saturday's races. Fairgrounds is Brad Cox gets Lucy Property Win because it just seemed like those last three races. That's exactly what happened. The New Orleans stakes the final of the four big ones Fairgrounds or I should say it was actually the first of them but the final four. We're going to talk about Fearless the todd pletcher. I don't want to say unknown but you know steaks and this level unknown off as you're heavy favourite here silver desta ended up floating up a little bit to your third choice as by my standards back down to two one. Let's take a listen back to the call. The New Orleans. Several dust took the lead on the clubhouse turn and edged away to a two and a half length fleeing from my standards with inside fearless looking to draw in chess chief and the green cap is fourth tenfold. In fifth got it as a wide sixth won't seller covered up toward the inside fully by captivating moon senator remains last half mile fifty point zero nine seconds silver dust lates by my standards but now with inside three and four long ago chess chief being driven to gain from third fearless also comes under a ride to pick up silver dustin by my standards at the quarter pole together then comes gun. At captivating. Moon. Both sailer leans only senators. They straighten three quarters and blunt. Fourteen point thirty six by my standards has taken a lead into this final fairgrounds furlong lanes by three to chess. Chief tenfold between horses is fearless inside silver dust but by my standards close to home late. Move by kept of any moon. That chess chief. My standards has won the women's classic by four an emphatic win for by my standards who sat the perfect trip. I mean silver dust after kind of lunging at the start all of a sudden Russia's up to take the lowest price by the move but then when I saw the twenty five and two I for Action. I thought well maybe this is all bj. Hernandez shown them how it's done and you know but by my standards. Gabriel scientists his credit after breaking so sharply sober discos random. Just put him in the perfect spot on the outside and I mean very much looked the winter on the turn because he was inching into silver does just so nicely silver discounted for just a split second but in reality I mean. He was just by my standards just so much the best and a couple of captivating moon I gotta give a little shout to for running second in this race and Chris Black who we had on the show last you know. He hasn't had an amazing season. This year at fairgrounds three for forty. But he's he's always been a very solid barn at those kind of upper middle tier tracks. Arlington is focus of courses at Arlington. But he he can compete on these bigger stages sometimes and this horse he's only made twenty two starts but it seems like he's been around for quite a while but honest as they come. You know he's made almost getting towards half a million dollars now and just a very very NEAT NEAT RACEHORSE SHATTUCK. Captivating Moon for finishing second in their chess chief a big price jumping up from optional. Seventeen five races sedan Stewart with one of his patented huge longshot. Then run pretty well in a big race entries. I mean the horse made forty grand. You know it's the same as winning. Seventy five thousand dollar race so tenfold plugged on four th but I wanted to mention fearless fearless had. He had a little bit of he had some run coming into the stretch and he had to kind of wait and he really got closed off at the sixteenth pole. And that's what the comments focused on. But he didn't have room for quite a while and to me. It looked like he a little bit of run. And so you know it's pletcher and it's you know he's he's it was. He was a favourite and all that kind of stuff but If he does get a little bit overlooked because of sixth-place place finish in this race. Next time out he's one. I'm real interested in because I think he you know he's so lightly racist was just his third career start think he stood to gain some knowledge out of this race and I think he did and I thought he was still trying at the end till he kinda got sought off. So I I think one that's worth a look back In future races. Let's take a short time out. I should mention our Tau. One on Friday. I got a bunch of emails. Hey thanks for that horse. Missed a guy that was even my. I told you the worst would get a lot anytime a horse. I'm not that plugged in. I mean I I know a few people around. I've interviewed a lot of people on the show and I'm not like I'm not used on the backstretch. Maybe that's a bad term to use in light of last week's news. I'm not I'm not the guy people call when they say. J just want to tell you this but we're news of a horse like that gets around to me. You can bet that everybody knows it but Mr Guide looked. He looked apart and would not be surprised to see him. You know make the jump up to stakes competition. Next time. I know Mike Stems not necessarily wanting to hurt him and obviously with the Derby so far out he might not have to get. 'em HURRIED UP Of course yes. They're still tracks running and let me see as of today the tracks. I know that are supposed to run this week. And this is as of late. Sunday is hold on because Sam Houston canceled after a couple of races Saturday and then subsequently cancelled the entire card You know for for whatever that's worth but Charlestown took a little time off. But they're racing with no spectators fodders poster resumed today. Golden Gate and California. Continue on how long. We don't help Gulfstream continuing. On how long we don't know low sal again part of California oaklawn continues on obviously with Sean Payton News and all that I was a little surprised they kept on but we'll see remington still running without fans Santa Anita mentioned Tampa Bay downs continuing and turf way Only has one more weekend or is this it for turf way. I think they have one more. 'cause kilos supposed to start like the second right so yeah. I think fair Turquoise one more weekend in will rogers I think will rogers the only track today going. So if you're wanting some racing action by all means check out the the racing in North Eastern Oklahoma. I think it's a clear more. I think it's just outside of Tulsa little known fact what's offered that job little trivia for you. I remember the guy called me was the pre previous announcer and he said Hey What are you doing for the spring and summer and I was like I don't know and he said Hey. What about coming out here? I got this thing coming up. I'm not going to be able to do it anymore. That was I was kind of in the throes of my anxiety at that point and getting through the Portland meat which was just about over at that. Point was was already a challenge so I ended up passing on it but I always thought what could have been if I'd have been at all Claire Moore Oklahoma anyways. Let's so anyways. So that's what tracks we know as of now are are still running Sam. Houston fairgrounds both canceling. Their meets a little bit shorter. Paradise canceled their meat. Which was scheduled for about another six weeks? Indiana I saw had originally told horsemen. They need to leave now. It sounds like they're allowing them to stay So we I mean the training. I know that there's more important things in the world. The horse racing right now and I think that racing is trying to find a way as I'm sure. A lot of businesses are to kind of keep things moving weather. It's as racing and keeping handle going or even just as training to keep trainers training horses so owners are paying bills and also so when racist resume. There's horses to run because you know if we go through a prolonged period of three four five six seven weeks of no training. No nothing then. Not only is you know in another month. Minimum till horses are ready to race. I mean so. Now you're talking. You know really know racing until September October. So whereas forces are able to train safely Then when when racing is allowed to resume and I would guess that when racing does resume at first I would guess it probably with no spectators. I would think that will probably kind of ease back into things. I could be wrong. Maybe they'd just waited all the way out 'til everything's gone and we just rush right back into life but we'll certainly and I'm sure we'll see how other industries do it to the NBA Nhl. I mean they have seasons they WANNA finish. I imagine they're probably a little more urgent to get. The things than baseball is because baseball can just wait. And you know. Play half a season and then move forward if if they're fortunate enough to where everything gets reduced but let's take a short time. I would come back to talk about Gulfstream in Santa Anita and some of their racing action from the weekend. It's a weekend recap addition Jason Moore Racing. Podcast brought to you by these folks where you can wager on horse. Racing twin spires twin spires is your home for wagering on horse racing from all around the world sign up today and take advantage of our one hundred dollars. Sign up bonus when you wager. Five hundred dollars has a twin spires player. 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Of course it was Brad Cox Day at the fairgrounds but It would not be Brad Cox Day at Santa Anita and part of that is because I don't think he was running anything there but stakes action going out at the great race place. It's still. It's still kind of bizarre knowing that. There's nobody in the crowds at any of these places but like when you watch on TV. It just seems like or shrinks and it looks like a race you know what Santa Anita where they're going down the stretch and Yada Yada Yada but the San Simeon stakes grade three on the grass and the return of bound for nowhere. We haven't seen since October at Belmont. Wesley Ward Rainman. Dyke you're wanting to two favorite citron who I mentioned has found success as a dirt. Sprinter trying out the the grass which starts on the dirt. Maybe that was part of the what we call the Tim. Riff o course because it kind of came about when when writ fo was empowered but You know started out as a turf sprinter and was good but was you know. I've mentioned this many times on the show but I think it's important. Remember with turf sprints. There's very few big grade. One races out there other than the Breeders Cup it a couple of big ones in New York. So you're bigger. Races are often grade. Threes or seventy five hundred thousand dollar steaks and so- sister on while he was competing at Grade Three Allowance. You know listed stakes. He's running against conquests who Nami Haskell law-abiding citizen stormy liberal. I mean good good top level turf sprinters so you know. He made the switch to dirt and he did it so well. He won the grade. Tacona Goldie missed in the triple banned by a whisker in a race that you thought he had and then he wins the great one bing crosby so he switches over to the grass and they hammered out of nowhere down to one to two and they leave sister on at almost nine to four forty one. Let's take a listen back to the last little bit of the San Simeon approaching the quarter pole surrender now just drifting out of touch bound for nowhere comes to challenge citron to behind them in third than King of speed Voodoo Song. Murad Khan and Sparky Ville. There's a furlong left to go and bound for up to take the lead Brown. Takes up the chase outside. Surrender now than sparky bill between horses far outside. Murad Khan has takes off on the outside of bound for an hour knows that knows photo-finish close sisteron and bound for nowhere third between Murad Khan king of speed and Sparky Bill. So sisteron gets the score over bound for nowhere rallies from just off the pace to to get the win surrender now broke so so sharp and bound for nowhere did not break very well star at squeezed a little bit but rushed up and you know he's not an he's not usually an on the lead type usually right off the start. Very well could have made the difference. I mean he got beat ahead but I start coming off a little bit of a layoff. I think there's room for forgiveness and I think there's reason to think he can move forward off that one. But assist Ron and Victor Espinoza with an ice win capping off thirteen thousand six hundred dollar early. Pick five the early four racist two through five paid five hundred twenty bucks so you got about twenty six twenty five twenty six times more for the pick five than you did the pick four and the horse that you needed to get twenty five times. More was a six to one fifth choice. The field of nine so not the again. The lower takeout the extra multiplier the harder degree of difficulty the payouts on the pick five can just be awesome it and it was kind of one of those pick fives where there wasn't any huge upsets but you just kind of kept beaten favorites with horses. That were not necessarily like the first choice. It was kind of a wide open race a five the two morning line favorite and after the horse that won the fifth choice it went from six to one to twelve one thousand nine hundred one so. I'm sure not. Everybody had that horse but one that you could could see folks having the second leg you get a five to one but it's a five horsfield. You not only beat the big favourite three to five all live your Oliver Viera Oliver. You also beat the two one second choice Dr Door so yes to five to one. I think that five to one played really really big and the pick five again third ratio nine one shot in a small field fifth choice out of six with a pretty low price. Six to five favorites. So those two upsets played huge. Because the fourth leg you gotta three to one third choice but a logical include. I think or at least a horse. I'm sure play people had and then yes. You beat the big favourite on the end. I think it was paying. I think it was paying three grand bound for nowhere for the pick five so a lot of people obviously Took a stand there but again. No crazy upsets just horses that we're not easy to have in legs than I think. A lot of people went narrow. And you get back thirteen thousand bucks in the Saint Louis Ray. I thought it was going to be kind of Chaki two-horse Race Well Work Jerry and Oscar to me as ran. I third as coming out of Dell power after the big long shot. Second last time finished second again. Oscar Dominguez was some traffic trouble. I think not helping his cause he probably was the second best horse in that race but foreign full finish to that one and then data Gulfstream Park. It was pocket. Oh Saturday Paco. Had seven winners. When the Ortiz brother is our way Palko will play huge huge day for him and then in kind of fashion got taken down for you know drifting on a couple of guys on on Sunday so you know Paco Giveth and taketh away. Every one of the cool things about being at Monmouth last summer was working with Brad. Thomas and I used to love to listen to him talk about the jockeys and he would often talk about you know Paco Lopez. Some of the good decisions he makes during a race and how much he'll give you down the stretch. When he's in contention. One of those winners was on strike magic mechanic. Who Will Talk to mark tomorrow? So looking forward to catching up with him. But the fifth race on the CARD SORRY STAKES. Later on it was the fifth race was Senator. Got My notes backwards. The nitrates the melody of colors and hear my prayer compensate. I I kind of said these five furlong races at GP. I just think that you WANNA be close up and not be too wide etc etc and then sure enough the to that on my optics plot who were the front runners Weren't necessarily first and second early but they were first and third and finished first and second way way clear of everybody else. That was one of those ones that was like. Oh that looks like it. It made sense but it was here my prayer for David Fisher scoring and that one and then the Texas glitter it was Cajun cazenove and begin to ask us for Michael Pinot coming from off the pace catching arm and Joe. Who was the loose leader for Georgina? Baxter in midstretch was two and a half in front but just got nailed right on the money to take home the Texas glitter and then Taco won the twelfth and final for lunch. Which was it. I thought it was luke. I guess it was somebody else. Very SIMILAR SILKS. Lucia's strange but National honor pocketing the final. Jump to win five races on this Saturday at Gulfstream so and handle at Gulfstream for the Saturday. Eleven million of doing just under a million dollars race when they were kind of the third fiddle in terms of Big Days big races etc. So it's going to be interesting to watch. How handle is you know again racing? Yes it's kind of the only game in town right now but also be you know. I'm just unsure how many people are firing away with all the uncertainty in everything going on but I'm sure there I mean there's clearly play people who are are still playing if we're still handling tens of millions of dollars on these weekend cards but so again Marquette GonNa join us tomorrow supposed to be joined by track. General Manager on Wednesday told him if he can't I understand but we'll we'll try to get that done and look forward to the rest of the week being with you guys here like I said as long as they'll let me keep doing it We'll see you guys back tomorrow. Hope everybody's have doing okay. I know this is not an easy time for everybody I know. I found myself with varied emotions from great to sad too scared to you know. Thank for C. And everything in between so I always put my email address out on the show. 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"Sirius XM fourth. Razors with Steve BIC. Horse racing. Handicapping interviews. This is Steve. Very good Tuesday race fans serious to nineteen exam to one sports night, sixty four we think, and I gotta check on that case. I because I don't think it's I don't think they're I think they've moved things. I it's. Maybe maybe you do you. Listen to the online. Yeah. I've got it on the phone. I got it on the computer, and I never use it. So I haven't we got forgot to find out because I keep saying after years of saying sixty four it just becomes wrote. And we may not may not exist anymore nine sixty four. So it's it's somewhere series XM line and at our website. Should have a a great last day here in Florida before heading to California. And it'll include. A cannon shell. Visit Chuck Simon in-studio not not right. The second. He would have already. He would have already jumped in and talk over at this point. No Chuck is going to join us. At eleven and looking forward to and of course, Chuck on the board of the Florida HP and has become a it's what it may be too year coming up on two years, and Chuck has been really a valuable addition. At. Florida horsemen's. Team and anybody that follows Chuck. Any of his any of his? Platforms around. The internet. You know, how just inciteful and. I was gonna say reasonable sometimes sometimes. Maybe as unreasonable, but no Chuck has got a terrific perspective. He's actually warned. Us on so many topics. That have really come to pass. I mean, I I know Chuck over fifteen years and. We started the stable stables together and introduced well over one hundred plus people more now to the to the game through a really the racing club concept, and Chuck did that and Gary Ceac two out of really out of pocket, you know, five hundred dollars buy in no bills. So people could get a taste of of the game. And Chuck got that going and made it happen. And we've continued in New York, particularly with Gary and we've had the horse here. And there with Chuck sinc- Gonda Pennsylvania now down to Florida these last several years, but Chuck Chuck is very sharp and understands. Just all the all the nuance that sometimes getting lost in these important. But. Confusing and you know, fraught with. With just kind of an overwhelming. Scenario, just so much, you know, so much information and in so many opinions too. Absorb and digest. But Chuck has had a consistent message that there were things that have been happening, and you know, a direction that the industry seems to have taken that. It was only going to guarantee certain problems and. Whether they're seen as out front, and and you know, a big part of the issues that you know, that are dogging the game. They they may not be the ones that were talking about daily. But they're the ones that were the underpinnings a lot of times. And because they seemed. Tangential to what was going on. They didn't get a lot of attention. And and some of the warnings to the Chuck the flares that he tried to send up so we'll. Let let Chuck sound off. And. It's valuable. I mean, you've read some of the things that he he's written some things that. That he wanted to get out there into the into the. Stakeholder and horse player. World basically, and they've been so well received in and Chuck's Chuck's taught me so much over the years and look forward to spending the last day here. This trip with with Chuck in studio Steve all day will join us as well. Ten thirty. And. Do get let the doctor Alday discuss. Shock wave therapy which. Is it? Part of the analysis and the discussion immediately regarding arms runner and. Yeah. He received treatments back in October and ran subsequently and drain subsequently. But clearly this falls under. The. Net that in fact, Dr all day last week when we asked him. For a general overview of vulnerable horses under a scenario of of clusters of of incidents, and he explained certain habits and practices that. Very well. Our our fleet will and are accepted therapies. But. The fact that that there needed. Our red flag get enough themselves. So I want for those of you that don't that don't necessarily know what what it is. And what it's value is what it's dangers. Are. You know, it's a it's an area that. Has been more and more regulated. And. Pushed further and further away from. Race day. For horses. There was experimentation that had people using it in proximity to to racing. And Stephen explain, you know, how it came about the what what the perceived. Value was and then the of the negatives that that came to be known, and you know, that's that's really part of the. The dialogue that that is going on. And. We think back to the task force in New York, and why it was so valuable and why we keep referring to it. And frankly wondering why there isn't the same kind of effort. Being initiated. In California help put everybody on the same page, but together the same kind of blue ribbon team that they did in New York. And go through and it, basically. Dial everything back at figure out exactly what contributed. I mean. We know all the various. Anecdotal elements, and you know, what? What triggered this starting with everything? I've you know, we talked about for a month. Management. Tone deaf management and of basically a vacuum created with the absence of. The veteran. Racing director and. The most respected drek super in the in the game. That that's your. That's your starting point. So from there everything else that contributes you have to do exactly what was done in New York and. Effect real changes that address the issue as opposed to. Column b the Chinese menu of of reforms, quote unquote that are. You know being being thrown out there to create havoc. And that's exactly what they've done as opposed to coming at this with a the same rational. Why is this happening? And how did you know, what were the factors and how do we stop it? Instead, you know, you've got. You've got something that feels like it. It's. Just out of control and has no. You know has no rational direction just. Lots of. Lots of sound and fury. And that's why there's been any number. I think of very measured and. And highly appreciated. Presentations, including yesterday, what if you've been listening straight through from the replay, you you have to be still. Off wrinkly of Nick, lachey, and and his. Remarkable ability to. Layout. Series of thoughts that that. Comprised the response to. This situation, and and in particular, the from the animal welfare side of things. And I couldn't have been more. More pleased to have been able to get Nick on. And in addition to the you know, the do by recap. He had. He tweeted on Saturday that. I think Theresa Genero had. Tweeted a Peter. Soundbite or quote, and Nick. Riffed off of that. And so that's why that's why I brought that up, and he he was obviously, you could tell you thought about it extensively as he said the last couple of weeks and. Heard from so many people that. Appreciated? Dick's. Salient points similarly, J Humpty if you and I tweeted Jay's link the link to Jay's column he talks about the. The whip us and he brought Trevor Denman to the table because Trevor Denman has been warning about it for thirty years. And was viewed as a as a as a heretic when he when he first started talking about it that it was a lightning. Rod would be a lightning rod. So there have been there have been some sage profits on on a lot of these topics. But the Jay Jay's always got a calm and. Soothing. Way of of delivering messages. I I I don't want to acquaint it to Mary Poppins. Although I think I think. If I'm not mistaken, I think their daughter Julian and Jay's daughter may have may have been in Mary Poppins at summer. I think as it happened. The the rest of the morning, Brandon Walsh. Back from Dubai and the UAE derby victory for plus get Marseille one a here from Brendon Andy surly, our to they'll draw the Wood Memorial card tomorrow. And the wood is the would it'll be it'll be great. The bayshore. Is going to be tremendous Lucho. Mind control. Call paul. And now. Much better for Baffert Baffert is only sending one. That's man, not coming both been considered for either or the Bayshore and the wood and Baffert f- yesterday's workouts. All things go for game winner, but less happy it seems with Desmond. And so he's going to hold back with somebody's not sure what he's going to do next but much better will come for the sprint. And I'm wondering because there's a plane, obviously, if that's going to help Jeff Bondi. Ship sparky Bill because he wanted to come for the Bayshore. And if if sparky they'll shows up. The Bayshore war that that'll be unbelievable still about I think nine for the the Wood Memorial. And we still we also have to talk about. Got to talk about. Ben glasses terrific. Visit. I hope a lot of you appreciated is some some of the backstory on maximum security. And the dam that they basically gave away and and the stallion that they. That they shipped off Brazil take a quick break back after this at the races. Apparatuses with feedback on Sirius XM radio. Tickets to the Belmont Stakes racing festival are on sale now New York's premier three day racing festival. Returns to historic Belmont Park June sixth through eighth buy tickets today in joy trackside. Reserve seats or enhance your experience with one of our premium hospitality packages to make this an unforgettable event. France, then admission starts at fifteen dollars and three day festival. 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DA accreditation is only a warded after complete review of an organization after care cannot be an afterthought for the industry to learn more or support the TA's mission. Visit Thurber aftercare dot org. Who I love land. The racist Steve Vick and siriusxm ready. To me. Head off. Baby. Now. About twenty. Fast. And I wanna get in some of the results from the weekend that I know certainly tomorrow not so much because they'll draw the big Saturday cards tomorrow for for. Santa Nita Linden and Ecuador but with Keeneland opening Thursday, they got this this race card on Thursday, which does kick off the two year old racing season. And if you haven't looked yet at I mean, I haven't looked at closely, but if you haven't had a chance to to look at the Keeneland opening day action, it's it's Gaylon usual Keeneland action. And the first the first two year olds the race starts with the four and a half classics and Wesley ward. Institution when it comes to this. On the also eligible list. That's not right. He's got a carpet diem. Named nyah Beth? That's been working right along and Naboth. Was a. Phasing fall. Yearling and. If she gets in she'll be a handful. You got you got the it's always fun because you get the first crop stallions debut ING, so we'll keep an eye. It's. Twelve twelve babies you'll you'll have to feel have to sort out the the winner lease and and so forth. But then it then it gets into you know, allowances and all the usual. There's a. There's a that new turf sprint stake is the feature the Palisades turf sprint three year olds five and a half. And you got a couple of a couple of familiar, names and. Because. Because the isn't dry yet on gladiator kings win photo from the Hutchison. Unbelievable. He comes back on two weeks from the Hutchison and goes back to turf, and he was he ran well in Texas litter back in February. So. Gladiator king part of this. But the look outside kassy's got that strike silver comes back in here for the three year old debut and bulletin, the really nice cities for Pletcher as well. In your drew outside. So back both of them did strike silver. The eleven bulletin the twelve Hawaiian noises who won the animal kingdom about a month ago at turf way. Yes, I am free down on the inside for Cassie. And and Gary barber. So this is fun. Nice. Nice addition. There's. May track allowance and turf turf allowance and. Second level turf allowance still regards gonna stay CHAD'S gonna keep instilled regard on the turf after the decent very decent try in the Hollywood derby. So another big four year old name comes back. It's been it's been one virtually every week and mixed results. Core beliefs. The good and. Who else? Who did we? Who else there was about restoring from from Saturday, right? There's also. The distaff handicap. The which is an old old rice the seven eighths for the Phillies and mares at Akwa. Duck to kick off the the Wood Memorial action. This will go is the eighth on on Friday. And the part of the carryover will talk to Andy start our to look at this and holiday disguise in here for Linda rice and good old Yorkie, boo Princess. What a nice job that. He Barker has done with her, Catherine. The wise comes back after the romp in the lava dad, she'll be tough come dancing for. For Carlos Martin who gave Marley's freedom all she could handle last last year last year in December. On the destroyer. This really good. This is a good good. Good group in the distaff. So things will get started. And since I'm talking about stakes during the week. Later this afternoon at will Rogers downs. The the Highland ice. I couldn't let this go by. And there's actually that course, welder that Theresa lunatic trains has been really good fifteen for twenty four and comes out of a very good dry in the hot springs. Third two lengths to win more in there. And you know, has kept really good company beats up on Oklahoma breads and then four as into open company have been been very good, including the David Vance win last September wings locked up in here to for Clinton Stewart. Speaking of Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Veterans, and there's plenty of Oklahoma breads into your five out of the six. John not shows up for with who these with mid west Justice, the midshipmen Galvin. So it's a six horse field. It goes off at six fifteen eastern will Rogers downs. I had to have to give them a little a little push. Couple of the other things I'll save I'll say the equity stuff for Andy, including that fun card and dick Nick trying to get through that that pick six sequel pick four sequence it with game builder on on Friday and no good. It was tough. It was tough. And obviously the two day carry over. I mean, Saturday Saturday delivered a couple of. Of hard to find horses, including in the nightcap in that case. Electron IKA, Mr. bricks, I will say one thing Nick Nick did say that watch out for for the Claudio Gonzales runners, and it it took it took all basically all day. But it was in the nightcap that the solace. One of the kansallis starters hit and paid like twenty two dollars. So they had the they had that claiming crown style starter series on Saturday and. You're you're Gulfstream. It's stuff to stuff to keep you know, keep track of that one race to we should include. And I haven't gone through the. The way the cross country. I mean, I know the cross country paid seventeen hundred almost eighteen hundred but I should mention that one of our favorite families in the game the clients and Richard McLean racing team with break even. In the purple Martin on Saturday to Oakland. With me Hernandez. So that was that was the sprint feature. We'll save the other stuff from Ecuador for Andy including that fund. Carryover? We really enjoyed. And. Did. Okay. The. I wanna slip in. Basically, I'm trying to get through the stacks of paper. So that I could leave some of them I can stop carrying them around. I had not had a chance to mention that the Carolina Cup the first major stake of the the jump season was going to be Saturday. And at Camden. Of course, they started last week in and got things going with with just a nice kind of maiden type. And ratings races. But this was this was. The Carolina Cup and Jack Fischer picks up where he left off last year. Unbelievable, ice it. Your winter and Jack Fischer had a tremendous year last year. And I said who finished his year. With a win. This is a seven year old now tap it for dash stable. And this is a big win looking at last year's Carolina Cup was six last year. Again, some of these and is seemingly got better as the year went on. He was second to boss man for that was in the intimate. At Saratoga core. Belmont, of course. And if I'm that's arch. Kingsley's nice jumper. But I said with Jack Doyle gets the jump season off and Ricky Hendrick's Theodoros when the Kershaw played and the Camden play to Richard Valentine. Winner Masoka Pam Zine in the feel for lily Bouchier. Aggressive. Kate Nielsen for Mr. Naylor. It was in the sport at king's Bayden and the Springdale the allowance Jack one that too with storm team for Sheila Williams. So a the jump season starting to starting to warm up starting to get going. I wanted to wanted to make sure I told you yesterday, we'll save the we'll save the some of the California stuff for the next couple of days out there. Some. Some nice performances, and I want I certainly want to get to Mark latte. Richard bought this the Friday for those. It's feels like it's so long ago. Ready? The Friday racing at Gulfstream Marconi Todd Pletcher bridal would cool more. We talked to Todd about Marconi, but Dr Edgar congratulations to the Barclay tag team. And when off slightly favored doctor Edgar and this was after. Sculley had had tabbed him. He got down. You got down to three two one. I'm still eight dollars hawkish seasonal return. He was rallying. And he'll be obviously a lot tighter after this. But was what was interesting Dr went off slightly below hawkish. And then Dr Mountie for should he was running late. But Dr Edgar took control join Peru. And as always whenever there's whenever you talk about riders that are best known for coming from off the pace. Invariably when they're on a speed or we've said this million times when they're on a speed horse. They're really terrific and leper Rupe proves that out. So does get disarm. Oh, there's been anybody that when they get on on a speed horse. If you I mean, it makes sense if you have good clock in your head and know when to move to rally will then it does figure that you're you're just as effective knowing with what you've got and metting it out on the front end. John bridgeman another guy that out of this world on on a front end horse, but not necessarily known for it. So Dr Edgar looking at lucky gelding six year old. And that's a that's a nice step forward. Carl domino had Dr Edgar. When you go back before Carl retired. And this is for L, Louise, and Peter canzone. The six year old I stake win and is has gotten better and better. And better as he's as he's aged as he's matured and the here he is at six. Breakthrough wins the Appleton really nice win for for Barclay to good waiver bark lead and the winter season. Santa Monica you saw and it's funny. Both of CHAD'S winds Friday and Saturday Santa Monica I on Friday and then in the. In the PanAmerican with focus group. I mean, they both were dead tight and Santa Monica rat Ortiz at one to two. Decision that it mash, oh for Roger at 'field, Santa Monica. Our unicorn stable and focus group, of course, for Seth Clarkson over Melnik and I- Melnik. For people that use Melnik. I only used mickan and focus group in the in the rainbow ticket and. If Melnik wins that photograph, and it was. Unbelievably harrowingly tight if he wins that photograph instead of paying just under two thousand the that pick six pays at least five times, you would think at least maybe maybe a little bit even more because whereas like focus group on the smaller tickets on budget, tickets was probably singled in a lot of a lot of people the way they approached it. But boy. I bet to bet too. Nine to one shots. And I that was a split decision. The way thinks doubt that one lose that photo. And I watched it with with Greenwich Welsh. And they actually Eddie Bellevue Ori to there. And everybody was like, oh, he wanted don't think. So as head was his head. What was happening was his head was coming up, and you know, in the in the in the cycle, as they they go all the way forward, you know, people say, oh, he nailed him on the wire. And now all the time. Can't quote unquote time it so perfectly that. That you know, your horses. Head is is absolutely. You know at the perfect at the perfect spot on the downward the downward cycle, but. It turned out Melnik was starting to come up, you know, for the next stride. So I'll have Tony. I know Tony's listening because he's just texted me, so Tonio explained that. When he joins us. But that was on Friday. And that was that was fun. Actually, the the stakes on Friday, the orchid Santa Monica, and the Appleton and the skip away which led into Saturday. So there you go let's do this. We'll take the break. We'll come back Brendon Walsh to talk about a big victory at may, Dan. Plus ca Parfait Brendan heading spent time earlier in his career as an assistant. Coming back to do by winning pretty special. And also, let's be honest. It's been a bit of a frustrating winter with placebo Parfait. Brendan Brendan blamed himself after the. The first started the season. Said that he undertrained a little, and then, you know, thought he was fitter than he was and. You know, then a kind of a mystifyingly bad effort and in the southwest. So. We'll or was was that the star. I forget Brendon Walsh, though, starts it off. Then Andy surly. Dr Steven all day. Chuck Simon live here and hope to get we gotta get to I want to get to. Jeremy as well. For a little countdown to the crown, and I think John White will save John White for live. I mean, we're gonna be we're going to be in California. And I hope some of you saw the re tweet I circulated from John his column last week. If you didn't see express bet he gives you the introduction and the origins of of the point system. And it's gonna be a. It's going to be a. Mad dash for points on the on the John White scoring system. I think. Back after this, Brendan Walsh. With Steve Vic on Sirius XM radio. Tickets to the Belmont Stakes racing festival are on sale now New York's premier three day racing festival. 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Visit business dot Louisville dot EDU slash equal. Why is it credits? Important in aftercare, thoroughbred aftercare, alliances standard of accreditation and grant process provide donors with confidence that their contributions are allocated in the most effective manner. TA accreditation is only awarded after complete review of an organization after care cannot be an afterthought for the industry to learn more or support the TA's mission. Visit Thurber aftercare dot org. Racist with deep fit on Philias XM. We're back at the races about twenty minutes to the top of the hour and lighted to welcome and congratulate Brendon Walsh on the UAE Darby victory Saturday morning here and Saturday night there. Set off a pretty joyous celebration. And Brendan congratulations. Thanks very much. Dave, thank you. You could tell the the people that, you know, from, you know, your your early days in the game and your time there in Dubai at of course, years ago and not I'll Sheba. There were just so many people. All over internationally that. We're delighted for you. Yeah. No. We got an unbelievable response. Steve. Everybody was so so good about it. I mean I woke up on Sunday morning, and I had like two hundred thirty eight minutes is on the phone or something like that. And I was out around fifty or sixty tonight before so it was it was overwhelming, you know, the support, and it just it was a great, you know, just the great few days. And you know, I just think everybody really. It was it was fantastic. If feels too like, given the fact that you were planning to to go with the imperial racing ownership team being local and with all the the frustration really of the early winter because he he was giving your hard time though ours. He was you know. The the reason star was the ones licotta wasn't to put a put out about because it was in January, and you know, I kinda backed off from out to the jockey club. And you know, I didn't plan on having totally ready for the for calm. And and I thought he ran okay under the com-. You know, he's still believing the gays and the shoe the more it's in pieces, and I thought he ran okay? But then tourism star when you were kind of an interest. You know, we didn't we didn't really have we still haven't come up with a solid excuse for that. That say only, you know, he got a little stuck down. You know, saw he'd. Coated fine. And he didn't be you know, it did not that much out of them. So you know, we said because we planned on it. The whole time we end up with chip them to Florida because he was going to fly out of Miami. Anyway, and get to the real sewn on his back, and and try to make it easier for them to climate is once he got to do it should be. You know, I think two or three times might have worked. And you know, he's working really good. Then we'll go ahead with the plan. We didn't really have a whole lot to loot at. By bringing them out there. And he is work when he got down to Florida he has really blossomed, and when he got to buy the he was there about four or five days before I got out there. And I I didn't think he could look better leaving here. But when I got there just looks like he'd know better again. So you know, it was one of them things where everything was gone. And you know, I I just thought on the day. I wasn't even that nervous. Because I I thought we just kind of this source doing any better. And when when you have like that, it's just a question of, you know, them going out there, and and proving what or go to know standard, Geno, and thanks lead. All what he did. That offers a bunch of different questions. I mean, we think of horses so often Brendan as as cool weather animals, and certainly on the Philly and mayor side of things I can remember Roger add field years ago explaining the for him from his experience that when he's had Phillies and mayors in the summer and the heat than they don't perform they they're out of sorts, and then as soon as the weather cools, they they they pop up. This is a little unusual to hear a horse that actually appreciated clearly the the warmer temperatures. We didn't have the grays winter in New Orleans when. You know, even you know, some of his best running back in Kentucky that fog when it would have been exactly or meter. But you know, we didn't tonight. I think I've seen back back the years when you know, when I'm thinking, I'll for the death when you travel the horses to they just throw on the new environment. And maybe that was the key to, you know, bringing them down air and changing maybe a different track and just the different different environment might of helped them. Maybe he just, you know, notice respected fair guns that maybe just wanted ours. I've seen Julie go down to the fairgrounds absolute loss of down there. So the Tarsus for courses, and and somebody just like certain things and some of them don't like the Phillies some of them eighty he's in and and some of them hate the cold, you know, so there's no there's no really law to it. I think you know, going into the race. Let's talk about what transpired. Fired once the what's the gates flu? And you probably didn't know necessarily new you're getting a very capable writer Jose, or tease, you didn't know that he was going to like the place up the way he did. You know, the win on coal front was outstanding the ride and going out, and and you know, nailing the leader in space on attract the typically plays to speed. And then what he turned in on on Parfait was just I mean thing of beauty. No. It was a masterful. Really, see? I know when you know, I hung out with Jose a little bit earlier in the week. And you know, it was a whole new environment for him. You know, writing gets different writers take him out. I guess his comfort zone you could call it. But it didn't seem to faze them. And I loved that he hero to win around cold front and got off to a good socks. 'cause he when he came out to me before my race. He's like even beaming confidence. And you know, I just basically to him, you know, he thought he'd get the horse just a master foot. Right. You just so away the whole way around there. He had, you know, a little further back than what I thought I thought he might be little closer. But he said at no point was he worried at all he said the horse whose air every time he has to to to do anything into race. He said even there for them. And I think that's what you need to win these kinda of races. And you know, in the end, he when he got that gap. And he went clear, you know, at the end, I think it was all going to go to get to and look for a second like they might. But I think he's he was the best horse into race. I don't think. Anybody else that any major excuse? No. And it it felt like gray magician Tena kind of kind of items late as as good a racist. He ran it felt like, you know, the distance was getting to him in in the final seventy five hundred yards and. Other than that diving to the inside was, you know, I I the inside outside and then back inside Ortiz making every decision addition, the correct one, basically, so. You could see that when he when he went down in. And did that concern you at all having him? You know, having him have to to dive inside because some worsened don't like it. Yeah. I see him do anything Seaview. No. He he he kinda put you know. I think the horse still, you know, I think he's still learn an awful lot from the other night. You know, I think it was a different scenario for the game that I could see a couple of situations. You know, it's hard to notice. But I told myself there was a little hesitant in a couple of different situations. But you know, I think at the end when he did go inside. I think it was a question of wherever he was going to find a room because I was thinking to myself, please find some room to find some real. 'cause I it was the first time he got the clear as soon as he got the clear just he just sprouted wings. And and then you know, he took off. And and that was the I think it was you know, I think they just give them Hoster for the white. I mean, he. I can tell you people that complemented variety gave bought my horse and coat from channel. He really excelled. So on the big money very much in his first, two rights goes to for two and explained to everybody, you know, what it's like to go back to buy for you, personally, and and win and. You know, the the opportunity even special. No, it was unbelievable speed. You know, I dreamt about going back there for for years. You know, I worked for eighty Kennedy that he's assistant before out my own. And of course, eighty one spring out there one year with Kelly. And you know, I've been to numerous were cups when I was when I was over there in the whole thing is just how the Dahlia's regard. It's a huge and tonight in European racing as well, the euro, very very focused on it. So nice to to win in front of in front of all them guys as well. But yeah, I mean, it's that's the kind of stuff you dream about. I mean, you know, Saturday night and Sunday morning was still think the most of actually happen. You know, you know, the fact that I saw on of not can family is just people who work for don't chew years. I mean, they've been used support of not alone US racing. But I mean masses and in Europe's as well. So, you know, great all things just came to get well now. You guys get to bring him back. How how did I know you left not what twenty four hours later? But from what you could tell how did he you know, how did he come out of it? It came out of it goes, Stephen his I could feel a little tired on Sunday. I went to see him Sunday evening before I went to the airport. And you know, he's a tottered naturally as they do today out for a higher grace like that. But he wasn't June. He he's back. I talked to Tom's smarter over there with him. And he said he's back eating good now again and string. And as you know, he he he's very adaptively, very laid. Back course, see. So I think if if you were going to do this thing with any horse. He's the type, of course, that you would you would do. So we're going to take them back to the track tomorrow and get him back moving again. And he's shoot a play their next Monday. I believe very nice and then you'll get him back to his own stall. And look ahead talk about you know, talking about next month. And the appeal and the imperial team. And and how they're you know, how they how delighted they were. True. I mean, do they they've been, you know, a lot of them guys. They spend a lot of their time in Dubai, and you know, I talked to their they're racing manager on Sunday. And he he said dip and trying to win the race on on word coke night three years, though. And they they had managed to quite get. And so you could see it in the month on Saturday do that -solutely through as we all were, you know? Just a terrific trip. And now, you know now at derby assignment, and certainly he finished, and this is the Preakness distance, of course, a mile and three sixteenths, but you'll be you'll be the, you know, the runner. In the derby that will have gone the farthest talk a little bit about, you know, about looking ahead. If if the racism on the core or Saturday night, and Steve I think he'd have one gay life. You know, he's he's via farmer horse point of entry out of an awesome. They get there. So, you know, he's he's got scam popping bottom, and he gives you the indication that he's that type. Of course, that's gone to. Going to get home and going to growing it out. So you know, that's that would not have any any problems that at all. I, you know, I just wanna get him back here and see that he's in good shape and the whole travel didn't take too much out of them. But I'm I'm pretty confident that that he can get back in and and come back in in good shape. I like the idea that they give them a week out there before it was back and not not bring them back Lindor Jay off the race, you know, two three days after I think that's what they used to years ago. I think now it's it's a little more. You know, it's a little better for them. But yeah. So on the look it's it's there and the derby pitcher looks like it's it's wide open at the moment. And and he looks like he's a hard knocking horse. And I think if he I think he's got a little improvement in office, the nice, and you know, all that can come together. The obviously like chart. Chill needed. Nothing wrong here last year. So yeah, we're excited. And I can't see why he wouldn't he wouldn't have some kind of a chance in the derby. Definitely worked to try. If everything if everything is in good order. Well, it feels like everything will be. And I think one of the other decisions to include here is the decision not to geld him considering that he's originally. And now with this kind of a win who knows as a platform. Your ready was. Yeah, he was already great at stake place that to of course, and the Kentucky jockey club. And now he's got this win on his resume. And we'll go from. There was talk about the Ridgely aspect and has been a problem at all at any point that ever raise. It said not at all. But he Stephen and a lot of time. Nearly the majority of the time it tends to be a problem with them horse. Contend to affect the moving behind and also their temperaments. What he it's it's amazing. Because a lot of them are pretty honored the horses, and he's not at all, you know. But and it doesn't seem to bother is moving the deed or so right now, I think we're just gonna eat them. The way is on. Can you know, if it's not a if there's not a problem, why try and see no though, you know, just leave him alone. And hopefully, it it doesn't interfere with them for now. Anyway, that should you know, if that said, it'd be playing with me and the way he you know, the way he strides in the way looked on on Saturday. It hasn't been and I just I I asked that because. I talked about this with you a couple of months ago, and we ended up we we've got kid chocolate, and he was absolutely being bothered. And we went ahead and gelded him. And and they they pulled out of his stomach that was clearly a problem. And so, you know, when when your horse underperforms, and he's got the, you know, he's got the the crypt orchid issue. You start to start to go through that checklist. Right. And and yeah, it's another it's another excuse in the book Seaview. Maybe he runs forty dollars. On that you'll pull that what out exactly? My friend. Aaron you go to he's got a he's got a checklist that that he that he's given to traders. I'll post it on on Twitter. It's hysterical. He says for for traders that don't that aren't too talkative. Just fax me that check off the excuse and facts to me, that's. Kiddo. Well, now, it's time for you to make an excuse because I needed proctors ledge. You killed us. That was brutal. I know I know she, but I was really pleased that our seats if the thought she ran leaving. She delay off. You know, I I, you know, sh Johnny. Did nothing wrong. I thought it was good run off to lay off. She looked like she was going to get there. And you know that Philly is, you know, she's slow cheater to the beat us. And she's been ruining all year. She was in and everything and she just you know, I think Johnny thought he was going to get by our easy enough. But she she didn't give in and that, you know, it just it just costs us, but she she knots nothing in fees, and I think it's federal Katie nicely. You know, our panelists to thrown to mind and ice fast. Ron my geography go stream federal for this stuff mile Churchill on derby day. So, you know, it's it's it is a perfect set up. Really just they would have been nice of one. But no, she ran well, and she showed that she's she's good as if. Not suspended in ever. So you know, we go ahead with the plan. And hopefully, it will all come good. At church in may, absolutely. And for those that that didn't notice the Florida Cup on Sunday at Tampa was nice day racing and extravagant kid wins the disaster. B's sprint stakes. You get d get chicken strips for life as. Focused waiting on for makes more than. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. So no, he ran great to he. He may be he's been a he's been a great servant to since week since we claim them last year. Steve, you know, that's the second sakes now. And he he I don't I don't think our one time he has run a bad race since we've had. So he's been a great great servants to. So you know, along mate last with him as well. I'm sure there'd be another few nights with prices on the way with him. Well, and that gets us to packing up the the operation and getting back to Kentucky that includes opening day at Keeneland where you've got uncapped in the stake in this new Palisades turf sprint and also kettle valley in the allowance race that goes right ahead of it. Yeah. Yeah. No what they did. Go. They're doing the horse into in the sprint needs one to come out. Right. 'cause he he fifteen so I'm hoping something comes out 'cause I think that's a nice rates from Lee ran, well, when I went to turf sprinting min into our so, you know, I think he's a horse with a lot of oak site to them that he, you know, the white draw is not ideal going on the same and drinking. I don't think it's it's detrimental especially on a fresh track. And. You know, I think he can give a good account of themselves into Philly. She we ran her back here. She broker made on grass year Allison, and we had been problem, and we had to miss the rest of the year with her. But she came back and ran around grass always thinking that she might be better on on Darth. I just wanted to get run into before keying ever have ready team. And so she's been working goes on on the dark. Steve's on pretty pretty hopeful that she'll of course, she drew the outside as well that the draw ause ones are to me yesterday. But you know, I think she she's good enough that she might be overcome that. What else can we look forward to when we talked last thinking about Keeneland here. The next couple of weeks because you had the adds a maiden winters that probably are due to come back. Yeah. I had saying Denman that goes stream the couple of weeks. He's he's. Run back in a one x I think the fourteen he's done, really. Well, this seems like a better horse in what he was got proctors Mejia's system actually show with three. She's I'm hoping to ruin her. We can get on on the Saturday comes as well. And I've got chaos theory host one stake to fares down he's gone to surrounding the shake or town on Saturday to these maybe also I think true to Holland need. We've got a nice nice. He team voices. See them open that they can they can continue our reasons on charm. How about that mission from L? Yeah, she's going to run into one Exxon. The seventh. Could Marlin bother sixteen. So she seems like she she did just had a couple of small issues that I stay after coming out of the state. She was a little bit disappointing. But I think we have them sort that. I just want to take a little step rather than going back and six company again. So if she runs back to her maiden a win, she should be toughened opened into one as well. Nice. And you women you, obviously, you know, to run her in the Swedish chant you you off the maiden win. Obviously had got real confidence in her. Yeah. I mean, she she can back and she was working eighty Steve, you know of nine site. It's thirty hard. When one goes out wins first time out and as incomes back to take on on winners did stakes company as well. It's a different story again. But you know, she was doing awfully well, Gordon to it. But she did come out. A couple of Maimi back back issues in. But we we give it time. And I think we've got some sort that out, but she's been working at. So you know, I I would expect to see her be there. They're about since your Bank became very nice and couple of final questions to Brendon Walsh with us off of the UAE Darby win on Saturday. Our friend on Twitter, Michael Angelini. He's asking the you have a commitment from Jose Ortiz for for derby. Not really I mean, we haven't even really called voter. I know he's right and that nice horse to Baffert's this weekend comings. And so, you know, I think with with how that goes. But to answer question, you know, we haven't Levy even about it yet. I mean, it's very hard for these jocks give you commitment this far. I was I just wanna see their hands. But yeah, I mean, if if Jose developer then. We'd be more than happy for him to write a horseback. We'll wait for that. And then of course, there there were some rumors is it true that you traded Stephen Skaggs for tack box. And he's he's staying in Dubai. From a few things in tact box. He wasn't quite going to get to accomplish. But I eat the bait night just to get the box. So yes, he he. You never know gonna turn it up. Talking cameras of the desert or something like that. Could be and boy he was he was wandering around the video stream. I didn't know where he with where he was gonna us looking bewildered by the whole seat. It was great. It was great great to have them out there in everybody out there. My old team. Steve just you know, between the guys that had the horse in in the fair over the winter to the nice sick is in star that it had here. You know, everybody's putting great effort, and there's a real feeling around the place, which is which is fantastic. You know, like, I say, it's just it's not it's not me at all. I only my name's on top of the thing. But it's it's all these guys effort, but that that's -ccomplish this, you know, out one of the most widely like the horsemen in Kentucky and anywhere else that he he turns up, and you could tell by the reaction to the win on Saturday may Dan, and you can follow Brendan on Twitter, Brin, p Walsh and Brandon. I will see you in a couple of weeks Churchill too not far away. Best of luck going forward. And chances are we might talk to Brenton even before that because he he'll have some stake. Runners. Let's take the top of the hour. Break Eddie Serling is next the doctor all day. We're going to get him in to explain what shockwave therapy is for those that don't know about it coming under scrutiny again, you know, it's been. It you know, it had its payday as it were when it it kind of bubbled to the surface as a as a panacea for. Courses. Then then the realization that like like anything, overuse and abuse and. I want Steve explain it to you. So you understand back after this Eddie Serlin from the New York Racing Association. Just recently athletics with Steve Vic on Sirius XM radio. Tickets developments tracing festival are on sale now New York's premier three day racing festival. Returns to his star Belmont Park June sixth through eighth buy tickets today. 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Part 3:Brad Free, Todd Mostoller
"With Steve Raising and becoming neater viewed this is. Steve We're back our three and going to reach out to Brad free at del Mar and the weekend of course getting back the racing, action and dafter. The Previous weekend and so an extra day racing today. For del Mar, Fans Brad free morning. Now. We got him. No There we go good morning. There's Brad free. Good Morning. How are you I'm excellent and Brad, and what really a a excellent three days of racing and we're going to be treated to a fourth today. Yeah no kidding nice this. Horse racing back up and running in southern California, and we saw a thrilling addition of the San Diego Handicap on Saturday with maximum security and Midcourt, throwing it down through the lane from a critical standpoint you can look at the final time. One, forty, four and two, and the figure was decent because the track was slow. maximum-security earned a one to one, but. It's the type of horse race. That reminds you why we all like the sports so much to veteran horses, you know giving it their all through the lane, and ultimately you know maximum security early in his career. He just ran away from everybody now. He's I think he's maybe lost a couple of miles per hour. Fast fastball, but he's doing it because he's just a gritty game son of a gun. Saw It in the Kentucky Derby. Last spring we saw it again in Saudi. Arabia in Tab ury and we saw it on Saturday in the San Diego so many things went wrong for maximum security in the Sandiego was first starting five months. He had every right to lose the race, but he did not. He refuse to get beat. He won the race by a nose. Tenth Time I across the wire from eleven starts and. And he's a tough customer. Can he do a mile and a quarter Pacific classic? I think there's enough reason to be skeptical of that, but he's not an easy horse to get passed away. That was a fundraiser to watch and I'm glad you've zeroed in on it. Because it, it's certainly you know the the the big story coming out of the weekend and obviously for a variety of reasons, this is A. You know a a a lightning Rod, horse, and the there's there's people who who were going to attack and ridicule anything involving him and. You know the the literally. The horse had not gotten back to the winter circle for photograph, and and there were people say oh, he's not the same horse. Oh, not say he's just not the like You gotta be kidding me. I. Kind of watch a horse race. We would probably baked to differ. You know I mean there's so many experts out there on twitter that I. It's one reason why I. Try Not to look at it very much because. A lot of people throughout opinions, and it's quite clear that they really don't have the foundation of knowledge that's necessary to watch a race and appreciate what a horse overcomes. How many horses do you see bust out of the gate? Make the get. How did from the outside? It shuffled back. Get attacked again by I'm another horse. Suck back into thirds re rally and win a race that does not happen unless you are very good horse, so you know I speak figures as? The years, a lot of new miracle assessments to evaluate horses ability, but sometimes you have to be a little subjective in creative. What did this horse overcome to perform as well as he or she did, and in the case of back security I don't care about the one on one beyer speed figure, which is ten points below his career-best. What I saw was a classy four year old, winning the race that he made which she. She had a whole bunch of litany me have excuses to is so I whether he's the same horse that he was when he wants to guard mile by more than three links or the hassle last year, the first across the wire in the Kentucky, Derby, that remains to be seen, and as I, kind of insinuated earlier I'm not sure about a mile one quarter for this horse as a four year old. But he's he. If you hook up with the maximum security. If they had of the lane, it's it's going to take an unbelievable performance to get past him. There were other you know. There are a few other elements that should be woven in, and you know the the give some credit to John sheriffs Victory Espinoza with Midcourt at taking that aggressive posture. Know so often. When you think about what the alternate! Possibility was here Brad to let let's fold that in which was he gets an easy lead and jogs around. That would have been a that would have been preferable. Doesn't the horse come away with with with more positives than the negatives from the way the race you know. His race was essentially taken from him, and he had to adjust to a different set of conditions. No doubt about it. The ratio unfolded entirely. It was surprising to a lot of people myself included I. Suspected that maximum security stablemate man and or midcourt would make the lead back coming out of the gate. able to deal on maximum security. He looked like he was intent on making the front so going into the first turn, I'm like okay. If that's how you guys, you WANNA. Play this good for you. Take the track I. Don't think anybody expected Espinosa to go on the attack immediately, having already been out footed for the lead in two I turn, but. was writing to win, he thought he had one horse to be turns out. He was right, and he espinosa kind of road the race like a match race. If I can put away a maximum security I, can win the race on Midcourt. He did everything right. He went on the attack and he just wasn't good enough, but maximum security was the better horse on the day I. Hopefully mid court shows up in the a classic I'd love to see these two hook up again and we'll find out if either of them can go. Quarter because the way that midcourt ran in in the. The handicapped I should say in March at a mile and one quarter assist. It looks to me like he might have some distance issues as well with regards to around one-quarter, so it's it's GonNa be fun. Build up to the Pacific Classic on August Twenty Second, and of course we got the the wildcard thrown into the mix yesterday when Dick Mandela announced that united would be making his first start on dirt in the Pacific classic after winning the Eddie read yesterday, so the Pacific Classic, shaping up to be a terrific race with or without improbable who I would love in the Pacific classic if Iran in it I guess. Appears that he might be headed back to Sarah Toga, but anyway rate. It's going to be a fun build up for the next four weeks going into the biggest race of summer. Now and we'll get to united in a minute when we review some of the Sunday action and I suppose we can use able to do and his involvement and his opportunity on maximum security He was also criticized the. For. For for reasons. Unknown! that. All he did was sweep the two graded stakes on Saturday including a very. Well measured ride on Laura's light Gary Barber's second graded stake of the day when coupled with the win of to sixty in the selene at woodbine. Laura's light has really turned out to be one heck of a three year. Old Grass fillies purchased privately by Gary Barber after her career debut last November at Golden Gate fields in six long sprint and Barbara saw something he liked. And he bought her. And since then she has emerged as well I, guess the top three grass. Villian California, right now five wins from seven starts. She won the Clemente. The thing about Laura's light is she always gets the perfect trip because she makes her own purpose trip. She has tactical speed and she. She's kind of the three hundred billion version in a way of maximum security in that she does not want to get beat. She will fight you off the length of the lane. I didn't think she could go around one eight and honeymoon stakes to starts back. Strain of Peter Miller acknowledged concerns about the distance as well, and she won by neck, shortened up to a mile in the San Clemente and won by three quarters. The Third Place, Finisher Warren Showtime is Worth Ball when she did not have a great. Great trip at all. She ran well to finish third at a mild one eight to if they do meet again in the del. Mar Oaks I think I might be leaning toward wards showtime. Recognizing that Laura's light is always going to be tough because she's got four replaced running style, she gets I jump, and then you have to go and catch her, and that's not easy to do with a top class racehorse like Laura's light, so she's she'll stretch out again to my own one eight on August twenty, second and skeptical handicappers, such as myself will think that she's vulnerable at that distance, so we'll see what happens later this month, but In meantime it's just cool to appreciate a good billy in top form and one that loves to win races Laura's light now five for seven. Is should mention you brought up on showtime I'll slip in in our beat. Vic Contest on Saturday I I in fact I used both of the turf races, Saturday and Sunday as the racist choice and in the San Clemente I liked. Warren Showtime and. You were getting five to one and was was coming, and Valero was making headway but lors light. As the sixty five favorite, we should also mention a let me slip this in eight hundred and eighty three entries on Saturday, two hundred and eight winners. And one hundred and sixty seven qualified to September to the final. So what thirty three forty one of you? That had already been beaten me on the first weekend came back and. Went with lawyers light. nice performance in there in between the two by witty. Leonard Powell does a terrific job. I actually liked the in the San Clemente I liked her. At a price I've seen Jews the most problem winner, but I've always suspected that she is a better philly ban. She has shown the problem, is she? She still does not know how to be a resource. She gets ranked behind horses. She pulls. She tosses her head around. And she has her own worst enemy. But she rallied from the back of the pack. She Outran Garage with the only thing when you're betting. Horses twenty two wonder higher. That's all you can really. Borders they out perform. Their the current mutual expectations and Giddy certainly did she had some self cause trouble early, she was ranked. One was writing here for the first time, but she was ranked first time passed. The stands unsettled, but she's still uncorked a nice little rally. She lost ground on the far turn, and she ran well in defeat Can She do it again? Going on I guess we'll find out, but it was a good performance by GD Good runner-up performance I doubt that she's going to be such a big price. When she comes back in the del, Mar Oaks and sooner or later, she's going to mind her manners throughout an entire race, and maybe pop winner graded stakes race, but in the meantime. She ran well at a big number and I was happy with her performance. I'm sure that Leonard Powell was as well the day earlier day one reason. I like Gd at a price is because a day earlier Palestine out proud. To Win at twenty one dollars in relatively small field of grass router, so the Powell stable it was in top form, and a couple of Nice grasp performances over the weekend including a San Clemente runner-up giddy. Well and part of the story Brad, and pause here for minute, because Saturday may have been a kind of a a corner turn for one JJ Hernandez. At, doubled his win total second in the steak and the performance on Rom. Bauer congratulations the John and Diane Friedkin and to Michael McCarthy and. I mean when I call the J. Ribbon clipping save two year old. Compile elation every year, the most important. Document. In the D. R. F. Every year. Here's why you got yourself thirty five forty. If you were hip to rob our. On Saturday in the opener. Yeah and a terrific, the thing about one hundred that I've noticed and having not watched him right lot. He's a recent arrival to the southern California colony. He saves ground and that is so important especially in a grassroots, any patient and that's exactly how he won the race on Roure the other day he just sat and waited I. Think the trainer Michael McCarthy was. That the horse would run well I'm not sure. He expected a victory first time out, but under patient handling. By Hernandez and a ground saving trip, and then swung out into the lane, ran them all down at big price, so it was a terrific performance, and now we're going to McCarthy is GonNa have to sit on Ron Bachelor until the end of the meat for the delmore juvenile because there's not going to be an allowance race between now and then but a solid. Career debut and a nice ride by Hernandez. WHO's making an impact on this local colony? And you know we could use a guy like him. These these top rider from what I've seen so far and looking forward to watching his southern California. Career unfold as summer progresses. Well he also his other win was a maiden breaker as well in a turf sprint where he went to the lead with highly distorted for Mike Pipe and paymaster with the distorted humor, five year old gelding. I still kicking myself for highly distorted, not that I was going to pick the horse on top, but. This is the horse that could easily. You can make a case for He had a race. Couples starts back. That was sensational did not run so well on his comeback that through a lot of people off for you know, that's one reason why you need to dig deeper into the PP's than just the horses most recent start, but highly distorted. He popped the gay and he was gone. It was impressive performance. Bet Down I think he was fifteen on the line and got that all the way down to five, so he was lives and You Know Hernandez got out of the gate on this front runner and race over so. By highly distorted, and it came a day after Mike Pisces steal. The diamonds was disappointed in the stakes race, the daisy cutter but Pipe Cambridge back in one is turf sprint phone a day with that good maiden. Highly distorted. Well and you mentioned the daisy cutter Joe Joe Air in there, for Andrew Farm and Wesley Ward. Drayton Van Dyke. Actually. The FLAVIAN Pratt aboard On Joe Joe Air and you got seventy two. You mentioned. Steal the diamonds who I originally win win. which he first showed up I, would call her stealthy diamonds. And there was also the forced fleet treat earlier on the card big sweep mark Latte for Rancho to Moscow and Red Barn a Korean bread, of course, because it's Mr Big and This philly! Kind of handled that trio in the fleet trait. Yeah big sweep ran well in the fleet traits. You WanNa, race and both. Trademark Glatt an Jackie Flooding Pratt afterward. They said she's winning races even though she's running on the surface that she really doesn't care for Pratt. Glad that this is not a dirt philly well. She's never started on grass, but she's compiling That was your second stakes went I believe and she did it, but glass looking forward to putting her on grass, and he might have an opportunity a little bit later on in the meat. with there's a cow bread grass stakes race. Up The up the road here at del Mar, the name completely escapes me, but to calibrate to learn. Grassroots and glass, considering at this point stretching her out putting her grass see if she can improve on her jerk form forms pretty doggone good, even though Pratt has said she doesn't really handle the surface all that great so unbelievable team, big sweep stretch out on graft against Cowbridge I think it's called the Salona beach later. Okay summer, but. We'll find out in the meantime glass. God has very nice Philly and by the way you know we I know we haven't talked about the read yet, but Glatt Trained Sharp Samurai. Super finishing second yesterday in the Eddie read, the trip was wrong for him. He was supposed to be for the placed instead he was laughed and he finished well against the grain of the ray shape, and he ran well to finish second in the Eddie. Read and I wonder. I wonder if Glatt might take a crazy shot if if united is going to be one of the favorites in the Pacific classic deservedly, so you can get the density trains well on dirt, but if united is going to be one of the favorites, then wouldn't you have to at least consider sharp? Samurai as a potential bomb in the Pacific classic. He is another grass source that has trained super on the main track. The question for Short Samurai, can he stay in mild one quarter, but his runner up finish yesterday and Eddie read. I thought was very very very very good. Kinda lost into Hoopla of United announced going to the classics. Well and there's that man again one. Well, yeah and you could probably say that was great. Ground saving ride and all that stuff I sense there might have been a little frustration from the Glatt camp. After the race, because Sharp Samurai the plan was not to take back and rally from last. The plan was to be forwardly placed. Pressing a modest modest pace, and then taking your best shot in the lane, but instead he had rallied from far back, and they don't think that was the plan so. In this case there probably is room to maybe second guess. Hernandez Strategy It turns out that the horse ran well. So that's all you can really hope for at this stage should Iran well. He finished second the race unfold differently than they expected, and he ran well under compromising conditions. Swell and speaking of horses. You can't question with the had J. on Friday. We were talking about the some spots and I. Couldn't. Leave the Sunday action off without mentioning. Sparky, Ville was back. WHO's one of my favorite horses in training and That was that was the best four to one you're you're ever going to get. He is he is the coolest. Well, it was the best four to one if you bet on him and Kootenai head. I did not you talk? You want to see a good ride? What go back and and watched it already, but I mean Mike Smith put up a Breeders Cup Caliber Ri-. He sat back. He saved every inch of ground. He waited got through. He angles out anyone in very clever fashion, a terrific ride by a hall of fame jockey and a tough turf. I can't get onto the same page with Sparky, though when I think he's going to run well doesn't when I think he might be four pops up with. Just the other day, so he's a good horse. There's no doubt about it. I would like to get into sink some. There's some horses where you just. In sync with the other horses were you can kind of sense there highs and lows, and you know when they're coming up with good race. You know when they might be tailing off and then there's sources like in my case Sparky Bill. Get on the same page so the next time he runs on my future attacks and find out what whether you like them or not? I just. been. I don't even know why. I latched onto him. when I did, but you know he's versatile and. Turf Sprint thing or the main track, and of course he won the vicinity. If you go back to the early last winter, he, he's just He's very likable. He's a candy Reid and J been. Clued me in and Jay Humpty frequently, listen to this show. clued me in that the dam of sparky Ville was named. For Laura Lie. Husky. or or Krona D., as it were and law rely K., and I thought that was very cool that That's very cool and obviously dismissed has turned out to be one heck of producer. I actually did I. I should clarify something 'cause when he won the San Francisco last year. I did like him that day. Last time I was right about spark, but you know as with his pedigree. He's supposed to run on anything and he does, and he's just. He's just a good good racehorse. Nice four to one in a small field, the other day I was on a different horse. Well I I want to mention one other before we talk about today and what's coming up this week at del Mar Brad free with US everybody I do WanNa. Mention the seventh race winner, and there for a couple of different reasons, the longest shot on the board sweet river veins comes running under Pereira and Tim McKenna and whenever Tim wins, and then he's one himself. Five couple of thousand races Washington Hall of Famer and. His family as well as the Holland door, fers Janet and Jerry. Have the. the farm. They ranch Up in Washington and they work with. Traumatized. PTSD the veterans, and so whenever McKenna wins I I. Always you know want to point out what good work they do and one other reason that that sweet. River Baynes had caught. My eye was bowl lane one of our favorite horsemen. Bread Sweet River Baynes fifty six to one Brad. Well fifty six to one hundred and fourteen dollars and forty cents, and the biggest bomb under under Sunday program, and it made at least one better, ultimately, very happy, a little later on in any afternoon when when that better hit the pick six, but. Kim Mechanics is no stranger to del Mar Do you remember the veteran grass horse? Terry's Tomcat. He one summer grass races at del Mar in two thousand, fifteen sixteen. Seventeen and eighteen that veterinaries Tomcat and a couple of those times drainpipe Jim McKenna. He paid prices. You talk about a horse for course Terry's Tomcat. Simply called by from Canada and the can't put one over on Sunday. I mean Sweet River Baynes. He crushed the field by a link to the quarry. One going away, it was decisive when he won like he should not have been fifty six to one. That's for sure and a good solid win. and a good horseman is timber China so when he does ship down the. The del Mar You gotta take a second look. It's not that he's one dozens of races at del Mar. He hasn't, but he when he does show up with the likes of Cherries Tomcat or sweet river, Baynes you got to take second work, I'm taking a second look after the fact and looking at that hundred and fourteen dollars mutual, honestly on past performances I have a very difficult time making the case for this winner even. The fact but I. If you go strictly on trainer. Maybe you could come up with them in the nice win by sweet riverbanks, his first start since June. Twenty nineteen, so mechanic had him ready to roll, and in the right spot well and The ranch is down the stretch, and you can visit the website down the stretch dot. Org and the Holland offers bankrolled the concept and. Off The track thoroughbreds. Maintained by the mechanic family and And other Horsemen and they do wonderful work and every chance we get to. Bring it up. we do Brad, let's turn to. Before, we turn to Monday the early draws the other getting out ahead of it and McKinsey's presence in the Bing crosby. Saturday certainly notable some thoughts about him going the shortest distance of his career three quarters. I think a lot of it's going to have to depend on how the race racetrack place We've seen a number of rally wide biases for. Raking surpluses this summer, In which it looked like you wanted to come from in sprints. Stop talking about specifically where you wanted to sit, wait to wide with the run, and that was kind of winning style and I. Think going six. That's probably going to be the style that Mackenzie is going to have to us. You know the he's the best horse in the field. The Sprint Division in California, right now has leaves a little bit to be desired. And less collusion illusion continues his improving pattern. I'm just not sure that McKenzie's. Seems almost like a desperation type move I'm taking horse. WHO's you know? This is a horse who could have won the met mile a year ago, but not for a bad trip and a good rival name a totally back. To to turn him back to three quarters at this stage of his career after you know being billed as a grade, one caliber to turn handicap division runner over throughout his square, these run well, probably not suited for a mild one quarter, but definitely suited for slightly shorter distances, mile a mile, one eight, and now he's going back to three quarters, which would be the shortest distance of his career I. You know I everything is going to have to break right for Mackenzie Some of his recent performances have been a little bit on the suspect side so. You know depending on the price depending on how the pace scenario unfolds, and all that stuff I to think that I'm GonNa probably do what I normally do, and that's taking a skeptical approach. Against you know the best horse in the race and Mackenzie will be the best horse. Go most accomplish towards in the in the been crosby. If he pops up and winds, that's fine. I was against United yesterday, and he popped up in one because he was the best source I thought the distance was wrong for him. The point I'm making is this. It's okay to take a stand against a short price, and it's okay to be wrong. You know if if you're wrong about a horse that pays four dollars and change. So what? What if you right? If you're right, you've eliminated the favourite. And now you're looking at some put potential overlay so I I have to think that Mackenzie might be up against going six furlongs in Crosby, recognizing of course that he is the best horse in the field, and he might just sit back rally, wide loop the field and went for fun, but it's. It's a very deep field this year in the Ben Crosby. Sprint division is a little bit light in California right now, but we got. We have a deep field and looking forward to diving in handicap. The Race Walker more in depth. Some early thoughts about The shared belief and baffled who expects to we had expected to see We expect to see Uncle Chuck Come East for the travers, but entered him in here and you ended up trying the rail of course because he. Trains him and he has the. BAFFERT BAFFERT's half to draw draw the rail. But all eyes on honor AP and say. To some extent, but thousand words and door will line up as well. I think I read somewhere that a new door might be headed back to park. He was supposed to run into interesting. last earlier this month, and he got sick after his shift down to Los, Alameda and trainer blend right had to scratch him from that race He's entered in a shared belief again this. Not sure if he's going to run in the shared bullying, we do know that. is going to run, and we also know that honore see has emerged as I. Don't think I'm out of school. The say this. The Best three-year-old Dirt Horse in California his win in the sanity Derby was terrific, and it built on his excellent finish in the San Felipe pay. This is a horse that continues to improve. He ran super in his debut at Del. Mar last summer. Stretched out and one for fun. He was supposed to run in early season graded stakes race at Santa, Anita he had a minor setback. Was On the bench march came back with that promising up finish when he crushed. Authentic in the Sandinista, the Derby he's only started four times I. There's room for guy to improve and I know that the shared belief is not the end all. This is simply a prep for the Kentucky Derby and early September but to me honore peas, going into the race as the best horse It's GONNA be a small field, so it's from betting perspective. It's you know probably a race. You might want to just watch but I honor. He. Right now I think he's you know. He's one of the elite. Three year olds in the country. I think that's a very popular opinion that I happen to agree with so it. It looks like it's honor. AP's race to win or lose, and whoever Babri throws into their against him. Are they'll have to beat honore. P I'm not sure what to make. Suzanne because his numbers. Really not that great I know he cost a lot of money and he's been well regarded and. You know a odds on both starts, and he one clear both starts on on speed figures. He's really not that fast three point. Six million dollars Colt and he's not fast yet. He's always started twice, but he needs to pick up his game in order to give AP and sort of battle at all. Brad free with US and Brad before we go of course the action today, five o'clock Eastern, two o'clock Pacific at del Mar and a ten race card. It's kind of. It's kind of a catchall. race number of CAL bread events in here and some moderate sized fields on the early front. The open company allowances couple of opinions in here for today. Yeah like a horse a lot today. Race number four. His name is real. Ocho and he made his career. Debut may thirtieth its sanity that he finished fifth by three lengths. This is raised that you need to watch on video to appreciate what happened He was very keen and pulled hard early. And then he finally settled down, but he was blocked from the five sixteenths. Paul too deep strachey took up at the Eighth Pole, then he galloped out in front of the Field v by three lengths, and he ran out of his mind. It was a terrific US debut by a gelding. Finished second in a fourteen horse field in his in his career debut last year and He's coming back with the clean trip. I think he's going to be very tough to beat you. Look at the jockey and go well. Geez Flavian Pratt road him last time out, and Pratt jumped off real ocho to write somebody else. I. There's a back story to that And that is that Pratt had about four or five maidens to ride in this grass race, and the one that he chose ended up being a late defection from the race and one that his agent Derrick Watson shows I should say. Was a late defection. After he was entered, he came up with a minor issue and so proud by the end had relinquished the mount on Real Ocho and that's why Abelson shows up, so I mean you always wonder when a top jockey gets off a horse? Why did he get off? It's because he had other choices. And then the choices backfired, but we show. Get to clean trip this afternoon. Race number four to Medan route to the mile sixteen grass. He'll be very tough to beat. He is the three to one favorite, but it's a big field and we might get three two one five to two, and that would be okay for me. In the next race number five I like the second time starter South Beach Gal trained by Peter Miller second start made. and he's limited from grass to dirt. He's facing. She is facing easier. She had speed and I think that she's going to be long gone. She's four to one on the morning line so three to one shot real Ocho race four afford a one shot South Beach Gal in race number five. That's going to be my afternoon. Right? Smack in the Middle Card. Excellent now it's It's just. Interesting from a business standpoint, too, because as Jay mentioned Brad the this is kind of an experiment. They might add a another Monday if If the businesses there today. Well I hope it is, and here's the thing about the delmore racing office. They have A. They have their finger on the pulse. They know the population that they have to deal with Racing Secretary David, Jerkins and Tom Robbins Vice President of racine. These guys know their inventory better than any other race track in southern California and that's why the racist bill. That's why the condition book. Book is often good That's why the draws. Come out on time. The overnight is generally released by one o'clock in the afternoon. Whereas other tracks, you have to wait until three four in the afternoon before you see the draw, and it's nice to you know, be handicapping and dealing with a professional wrestling offer such as the one operated by David Jerkins del Mar so hopefully today. Well? I'm sure it will field sizes or big late in the car, and I'm sure business will be brisk, and if we can get a couple of middle prices home right in the middle of the card, you know I'll take mondays any any any week. Well and and it's a busy. Monday ends up being busy. I think there's fourteen think there's fourteen ovals running today so. We'll and it is well, and that's with Colonie. Actually one less colonials postponed or canceled They're opening day, but it is opening day. Oppress Kyle So. Everywhere you look, there's something going on Brad. This was fabulous. Thanks so much. That sounds great, people appreciate you having me, and I talk to you you soon without fail Brad free, everybody, our first opportunity to check in with Brad. The couple of weeks sort of a week and a half I don't know how you identify These I sets of of cards exactly at the del Mar what we have we've had. Got Six right. Right. Yeah. Right July July tenth. July tenth eleventh twelfth, and then we. We lose the night, and we come back with the twenty, four, hundred, fifty six, so six cards in so few more obviously with nine Saratoga. So, Summer summer, still gaining gaining some momentum We actually whistled through. Two hours and fifty minutes so we'll see about You know perhaps a little quick brief visit here and I mentioned. The. Opening days. That one has gone by the boards because of the heat. And I. have to turn and pull up. Press, Kyle. And Get a there we go. They've got their. Got These first three days. And this card. Here we go all right I brought it up with with Dick Powell last week, but big full fields they start at four forty five, so a slightly different schedule, so they'll be running there. Will. Run pretty much concurrent with. which kicks off at. At Five Eastern. Okay. And to give you. The rest of the? Action. Where we got. The side that was great with the with with Brad I because I didn't I didn't reach out for. West Coast conversation. I will Can Get rid of that. I will mention that there we go. There's the other Monday stuff canterbury. Quarterhorse. Fans Tomorrow All Quarterhorse Guard at Canterbury. Tomorrow starting at five thirty Eastern. And they. They will have the low takeout pick five opportunity this smallish fields, but it's. Quarters. So, be aware another one of their Special Specialty. Cards all all quarters. Today's action. Four forty central, five forty eastern, so there's quite a bit. There's quite a bit late afternoon. Now that I'm looking at all this together. There's quite a bit of. Late afternoon. Activity. Today with the with these Indiana starts at two twenty. They're they're late. Pick five. Starts in race four eight nine by ten by ten by twelve. And then they wrap up with A. Quarter horse race, but very nice cards to start the week. at Indiana to good. Pretty good erasing all in all I don't know what we're GONNA. Tina's heading to Rochester. So I may, may be able to. Be Able to. kind of play. On the fly, you know, just sit with PP's and and just take. Some shots little too late to do anything with. With another visit, so let's Let me see. Let's catch up on a few other results. That I didn't race. We did not mention from yesterday. We got pretty much everything in Calif-. We didn't mention the gala Leeann. Winning the California dreaming. Yesterday? That that was the last of the the weekend stakes. Did we mention the smiling tiger vertical threat in their? The those were the other to. The other two stakes from. The weekend and there we go, there's gallon. West Point and A. Cool more and more and. The uncle Mo cult that. Was a pretty expensive Barrett's. Purchase. Now with. John Sadler. Flavian aboard you got sixty five actually out of that. I think we got the rest of those and. We talked about spikes Cheryl spite I keep saying I keep calling her spice Shirl I. Could See and this this I've got to ask. Sit on Wednesday these dame's. The this one. This one is shirl spite and if he goes back to. MR FIFTY GOES BACK TO SPICE DOWN! With Perfect Cheryl, the next one will be spice shirl. So that, you'll be completely confused with with. Unbridled forever and forever unbridled right? That's his That's his game. I got to reach out to Gary Barber and to have gary join us talk about his very good weekend with to great at stake wins and I think also the greatest steak placement. quick about how the two stakes at Monmouth on Saturday. Horse that we. We. Like and and have talked to Pat McBurney about. Golden Brown wins the. The Irish war cry. Well. Casey you can try todd todd. Todd can fit us in in the that that wasn't the ideal timing, but todd. Moss older will join us for about two minutes to celebrate press. Kyle getting the the season started. He's ready to Yeah I. Don't know what what happened. Then yesterday the Jersey Derby Vanity. The Verrazano for Michael Pino. and. Paco Lopez. They had pretty well in the Kent And comes back and wins the. Jersey Derby. So those were the two monmouth races and you know that off. The turf race ended up helping a little bit. For the cross country pick five. Yeah, didn't. It didn't help entirely because as I said Kevin do joined US earlier he he knocked us out of the the cross country. but For those that for those that played it? cross country paid. Twelve hundred and seventy seven five pretty nice. But it and that was with you know with a couple of horses, actually with volatile and. Croatian in the in the in them mammoth race. Todd boss dollar with US and todd? We got literally ninety seconds, but I I wanted to make sure to publicize. The kickoff to the season delayed the start to press kyle good morning. Steve appreciate time. Not at all and this are, we couldn't connect a little earlier, but you know after a number of delays. Often and running today in Eerie. Yeah, we're excited, obviously covered Create chaos. On a number of fronts with getting Prescott Open, but were open already racing. Get decent field sizes for tonight. Were anxious to get the meet started, and which will conclude the third week of October were. Can't tell you how thankful we are that we're going to be able to put the show on. Well and the first the first few days. Look look good, although I I am curious. How much are restrictions affecting the racing offices potential to assemble fields in terms of Shipman's. Because it is a it is a place that in addition to a good horse population does count on on finger lake, sources and You know horses coming over from Ohio. You do get a nice mix. Yeah their protocols in place for Schepers. There's no restriction. Shippers can come in Everybody's gotta get temperature taken things like that Bam, but We've got good field sizes, and we're continue throughout the summer. What are they doing about? about patrons and owners. Now under the governor's provisions they won't know patrons. when the governor put his provision place for professional sports. Need. Limited to gatherings of believe it was two fifty or more. And we can't guarantee I mean obviously. We're always open for big crowds, but it doesn't happen very often, but we can't take that chance that if we. Limited department until could come in and shut us down and. We need to make sure we take care of what we've the guidelines. We've been given so that the race me goes off. Without, a hitch for the remainder of the summer and into the fall. Outstanding well four forty five post time, Mondays Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays at in on August thirteenth into the fall. Todd best wishes to everybody at Press Kyle for a a good healthy successful season. Thankfully, we appreciate not at all. Todd Ma stoler, everybody and the Pennsylvania HP. Thanks, the todd and Brad, free with terrific comprehensive. Catch up on del Mar Linda Rice Richmond Yori Kevin after and Steve. Missing lots of good action today. Good luck to everybody and We'll catch up with you tomorrow. Plenty to do from the weekend plus surly and much more. Some time saw. Recently With feedback on Sirius Xm radio. Are Pennsylvania breeding program was of course impacted by the pandemic now with our country, getting back to work, we'd like to talk about our program. The best in North America are breeder. Awards will remain up to fifty percents for. 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One of the topics and hasn't even really come out, which was the idea for a a fleeting fleeting day or two of having a vets sign off on entries putting another set of eyes on on horses that came up and then went away, and and the air of confusion that really seems to be adding to the the frustration levels, and and the the exasperation and now yet another wrinkle that that just looking at the horses. I just talked to to Mark about tomorrow. And and Friday that he won't be able to you won't be able to run. And so it's it's gotta be just maddening and. Will wait I've been watching for Steve Anderson and hoping to get between between now and Friday here from him and Brad free, and certainly jape riddle will join us on Friday said Fernando's going to. Get our sire watch Pettit refocus visited and brought to you by hill. And Dale, of course, and one thing I didn't get a chance to mention I should've brought this up with I should have brought this up with. With mark. Because. Law abiding citizen. If I'm not mistaken was bred by hill and Dale so there's a perfect perfect tie-in. And and for those of you that enjoyed the Nick lock and Chuck Simon yesterday. If you didn't hear John secure from last Thursday, I would. Urge you to go to the archives. And we talk for twenty minutes about the sale and about the three million dollar seller. And then. For the next fifty minutes. John provides his outstanding perspective about where things are and where we probably need to to be hammered. You want to put the cans on for a little bit too here said as he joins us. Right. Yeah. That works. All right. So hammers going to I was going to go. He li-. He he likes the microphone. You got the DJ the DJ appeal. I'm getting ready by turned it off. But okay. Well, you have it. Yeah. There you now you that much better. I said I'm getting ready for my next life. When I come back as a rock, and bolster that Mike and swing it around like Daltry, there's Anderson I well and let me. All right, Steve this event or Sens deadline. So you know, what tuck that excuse away for the future deadline. Sit for Danda joins us. Sid. Good morning. One hour. Excellent recant really with us to and have you you've never met only only the radio. Hi, Steve stead. I'm sorry. And I gotta say as someone has been in the game for a while and talking about myself. And we try and learn a few things here about a lot of parts of the game. But one of the one of the parts that I decided it was too late for me to get into the breeding parts, and and the sales part and all that stuff, and what I learned from people like you, and you especially because you're on with Steve every week about that part of the game is is is it it goes on to show that you you never know you never know everything. And I at least smart enough to know that I don't, but I do appreciate your segments on here. I listen more intently, I think to to you and other people that teach me things about stuff. I don't know. And I'm hoping that the same out there in the in radio world. So the that's. Live with you. Thank you. So now, it's me some more. Appreciate those comments, but really have to give qudos to Steve too. Because Steve your your show is. Teams like this week even been taken to a different level with Nick luck privilege Kerr, Chuck Simon responses to what's taking place right now in general fantastic. You have this platform to begin with? But I think. Steve rhythm cereal. Agree know, I think. This platform in taking on added importance, even more recently. And that's really that's to what what you bring to the table. Well, we know that it's all Stephen literally, this is one of the things that started garage fifteen years ago, and and I can remember the in the early days before Steve with JJ. And and would would I would go around and try and get people to to come on the radio, and they would go what what are you talking about this little radio? Well, you know, maybe not that you really have to beg. And then, you know, since the last ten years since Steve's been on just have to say, Steve BIC, and the the one thing that says is you'll agree with this as. To tell people what you're gonna say, I this is all positive. It's not a not you're not being cross examined. It's all positive stuff. It's all it all is there to help the listener and to help the game along in any way fashion. And so that's why it's so easy to get to get guests on and good. Guess just yourself that that explains your facet of the game. When when I'm on I try to teach the people out goes on in the racing office side, and we just had Mark glad on so. A three hour learning experience everyday. Thank you. I it's all you know, it there's so much such an involved business and. I said. One of the things I think that makes these conversations and the fifteen hours a week interesting and engaging and unique is that. The individuals that that contribute, especially the regulars. And then you know, any of the any of the ripped from today's headline guests, and there we all have a common. We all have a common passion and concern. And we also are invariably a, you know, a. Thoughtful group of people and the the wide array of of perspective. And and you know, the collective intellect goes a long way to reaching. I think the widest possible audience and people don't have to agree with me and my angle things or or you know, really anybody that that's visiting on on the show of once or or regularly. But it it it's all designed to help people understand the game better. Enjoy it more cash. More tickets in whatever capacity. They. They come to the sport. Casual fan to to player to backyard breeder to commercial breeder, whatever it is horsemen and. We're we're try direction. Before forget, Steve I was in Wichita this weekend. And Roger Lyons who you've met that work there consultants partner with me he has. Was that? I think was I can't tell if that's us case. Or if that's that sitters that us, I think it's I think it's yeah. We're we lost sit. Okay. I I heard sometimes that that that noise you hear a lot of times. It's it. A lot of times. It's our connection that we lose. But in this case, it was sits connection come back where said called home. Well, he he's Brooklyn. And he does, you know, of course, the work thoroughbred consultant office in Kentucky. But the sid is been spending. There you go said has been barred Florida. But he he I was just asking where you call home said. Brooklyn New York, but I don't know in the black space of he told you have been in Florida. All right. And I'll be here for the spring. There was a there was a series of games in Wichita was over there. I tweeted this. But Roger Lyons was saying. A friend of his song that I would. Instead is that sit for Nando from the big show. So I actually get beat him had O'Connor he sends his regards. He's the guy that got into handicapping listening to your show. It's very difficult to bend from Wichita. But he started falling show started reading the books following the ticket structure, and you know, there is a fan created right there, a better and each you know, he playing Morse's he's got an account. And you know, I keep credits a lot of your show. And I I love the there's no there's no better compliment really that that we hear that. That people people are. Enjoying the game more. And that's one way to do. It is to is to understand they had to capping and bet making process, and that means more to me, I those the emails that come across on that front, and and so forth people that I made that means the most to me, I appreciate pre sheet. Telling me said said, I got get a turn to the fascinating story that that you had a front row seat to because you do work with Ben glass and the Wests, and I couldn't resist on Monday the opportunity that have been glass come on and Baxter. How great was that? Taft to really, you know. It's interesting because. Ben. Actually contacted. Roger fair, and they about what really was the the potential pedigree on paper, of course. And we'd of course, help with the mating peripherally. And this is now after the words named it and whatnot and Roger. Got the. System. The lion score. Which is a pedigree analysis program. In addition to everything else we provide, and you know, he he pointed out to Ben that, you know. There was a there's a lot to like in the structure pedigree. And I think that optimally convinced them that. Yeah. Probably had some heads in potential on paper. And so, you know. It's it's it's excellent to see that even though these guys spend a lot of money, and I enjoyed the comment. He made by the way with you about ten thousands of lucky number for him because only by final jeopardy running into would for one hundred ten he got game winner for a hundred ten thousand and this and this cold maximum security was an inexpensive home-bred. So, you know, to grade one winners right there for I guess in today's parlance, a ham sandwich said from a cautionary tale standpoint, it is this is the message here, you know, don't be too quick to give up on your on your young stallion. And and too quick to sell off the mayor, and and so forth. They were they basically were liquidating this. Arm of the Gary and Mary west stable, and as as Ben said, they tried to keep New Year's day in the US. I that they couldn't find somebody that wanted to take him on. And then they end up with harass, harass, whatever in Brazil, and then the mayor that they paid eighty four that was carrying maximum security. They basically give her away for eleven with a sibling in the belly before before the first full ever race. That mean, what what what does a a casual observer deuce about this? And what does it also say about how we judge young stallions early in their career with their project basically barely hitting the racetrack. And and only really being judged on the sales ring. The the problem. With with these things are there. They're matters of economic because it's it's it's part of the breeding industry. And so that was starts off very expensively it at Ellendale for twelve five his first year. Second year. He grabs the seventy five hundred third year. He's at five thousand you know, dropping to feed it to try to keep getting more mayors. Ultimately, you know, I think it is fourth maybe fifth year before it was old. It would be fifty last year. You know, they they weren't getting Nares to the whores. And if you don't come out Steve in this game as to your point of lighting it up. In your first crop with some two year old horses big winners and that. Keep interest in the horse economically. It's debilitating. And so, you know, people are. Forced to accept offers sometimes from regional areas of the times from foreign country now ago that great example of that he started off for two hundred thousand eventually dropped all the way down to twenty obviously Stronach and going to sell them. And then he had success later and his stud fee has gone back up seventy five eighty five whatever, you know, there's a bigger horse like that. A blame is another mid level stories started off at thirty five thousand the most expensive horse of his year long booking lucky and quality road dropped the twelve five here then he had a big year now. People heavily invested in those words in Stronach in Kleber, and they were able to ride it out. And and and and stick with it Gehring, Mary west aren't really, you know, they're they're obviously trying to make stallions, but. They they could pretty much single handedly support their horse to that degree. And when you're talking about it smallers that fee, it's very similar to baseball. You know, a high round draft pick say will be given several years of seasoning to be Melby ready. They'll be a lot of patience with that kid because you know, these in the first round, you know, two million into him a forty round pick signed for three dollars. He's on a short leash. He's and so in that sense. You know, the goes apper the blames or giving a little more time, even though the stud fees on the same thing. Actually, true kirwin as well occurrence that feed dropped all the way down to twenty five thousand before he had his. Sant's? And now he's at one hundred seventy five thousand, you know, but the smaller horses, and it's not just New Year's day. And by the way. You and I talked about it. It's well known that soon as it works. Get sold abroad. They get the grade. One winners craziest thing ever exactly the same thing. I was having a text message chat. He other day would Rocco ball deli a friend of mine, he's manager of the twins. But he loves the text about racing. You know, he's he he don't orces he had to sell everything concentrate on the twins now. But he's so into it any just texted me other day about take charge Indy. Will he be coming back? You know, this worse again it was sold early. They got an offer they couldn't refuse and they told him to Korea. They had Winstar had a option however to buy that we purchase him by Tober last year for I think it's mall premium. And I know Eliot wall been with was tortured about it. Because obviously good Colt last year would be noble. Indeed, the colts on the triple crown trail. Take charge Indy. Noble, right? Yeah. And then now he's got this other Colt right for second crop. So you know, they decided eventually wins. They're not exercise that option. But again, it's it's a tough tough decision these horses, and you're right. Sometimes you just need to the able to give these orces some time, but economics dictate that you know, there's it's a business and. Unless you're, you know, heavily invested in that particular or so like like Chuck fifty or Kennett Ramsey or bigger NT late Kleber with blame Stronach with go sapper. It's tough whether the storm and do expect, you know, bigger things down the road and this horse. Give us a give us a quick overview. I do want to have a stallion follow up question. When I when I. Turn to the the current state of affairs. Here said my do one I do want your feedback. But how about a quick glance at this because we're seeing a with an Anna sheet mayor I mean, that's not that's not something. We I don't think we've ever talked about Anna sheet. Yeah. You know, stakes takes place in a PND. You know, you get horses that for one reason or another move go to stud because of their pedigree and some form, you know, taking take. Taking account another son of inky, Andy that was not stakes winner that was the size of the west champion, west coast. That's flatter. Also by AT and not a son of not at stakes winning son of abnd, but it works. It started off five thousand actually at quaver and has become you know, forty thousand Sally and top sailing in the country and sheets are Florida. All these come in, and they have some potential, but eventually it really gets down to you know, the support and whether they can whether the storm, but he's got he's got pedigree, two minutes. John core pointed out to you with army Neil, another case of a Senate avian the provinces in Maryland, frigid fire. But look what he's done, you know, would without tune ity outside of Kentucky. So I'm not too worried that you have a boomer sire. That's not that. Well, known it. It's it's a frequent occurrence. And flat out from the family and this decent pedigree to it. So at this point is, you know, already shown he's got a lot of talent. And. It'll be up to him from here on in. But you know, he he's he's a grade. One winner already there's a couple of on the female family side said there's a couple of things that that you should really touch on behind aniseed, the the creation of little indeed that the dam of maximum security came from a mating of Anna, she'd with Krista Lil who was a daughter of kresta rider, and there's another obscurity you and I love these. And then stunningly the third dam goes back to double j it's unbelievable double J's close in a pedigree in a modern pedigree. It's one of those things Krista rider, by the way with a New York. Owes course, European race in northern dancer who stood believe at gains way and was that a success whatsoever. Double Jay is a name from the path. And it's it's a it's a name known for speed and durability, and you know, all of these things tying pedigrees, it's an oddball pedigree. Obviously just looking at it with big names kind of behind him. It's. It's something also to be said for New Year's day as well. Because there's days Senate Street Cry. He's actually had five or six black type winners. This is first grade one winner, obviously, but he has actually he had that good g one place. Philly was places starlet from his first crop as well. So, you know, he's he's a horse that for cheap inexpensive horse was just a runner or two away from you know, actually, headed the other way, it's very close any cases where. Success or failure determined by you know, a horse too. This is this one is this really is unique this this page, and these he's already he's already written a story that frankly, it's being missed hold. And and that was part of the motivation of of having Ben glass. Great job explaining the entire thing and his commentary about well. Nobody else seemed to be smarter than they were, you know. I Ben it's such a great guy self deprecating guy. But he was a he was a trainer for twenty five years. And anytime you sit down with this guy talk to him. He he's Camis like Colombo he acts like, you know. Hey, but he knows everything guys, you know, incredibly smart, he self amazing ISA self deprecating, but you know, he's really untapped of everything. And as you pointed out to you, he's not gonna be at Santa Anita derby because he's with Jeff Kirk in Ocala overseeing the two year olds. Well, he he is really built a an enviable program for Gary Mary west, and you we've talked about their approach before. And the basically the well one hundred ten thousand up to about five or six hundred and all, you know, all male, and he's. He's got a very singular Ben out there shopping at at the direction of. Gary west, and and he wants he wants classic colts. He wants stallion prospects. That's his he's and he's been producing them. So it's a a program that word that's exactly what he wants. And in fact, when you know, one of the things that are now is for them that we do is that we have to actually in our short lists that we give to them. Actually work to give an opinion on the classic potential of of the yearlings because Gary. Gary of very successful businessman, and he have he knows what he wants. And he follows his stuff, you know, Inder stands the numbers game parts of his he understands if you stick with it's like sticking with the positive easy bet he understands that. He's gotta keep doing that over and over again, and eventually it'll work in his favor. And and that's what he does when he buys yearlings, my which is the primary part of it. They're broodmare band has grown so much that they they're they're breeding quite a lot of words. Of course, they've got now American freedom at Airdrie, they've got west coast pet. Elaine vend. So you know, they they started off at Hillen Dale in this in this new go round with the New Year's day, powerbroker and flashback. And again with him. He understands that you, you know, cycled through some stallions you're gonna have some success, and you you wait hit hit the big one. And you know, it could be west coast. It could be American freedom American freedom. One of the lessons of pulpit at stud. West goes into quips champion. He's gonna have game winner. Obviously going to study sent a candy ride champion and maximum security grade one winner now whether it'll go to stud here or what we don't know. But you know, that's how it works. Well, and well, obviously as we get closer to Kentucky. We'll we'll talk about him. I didn't ask you straight out. What your thought of the race itself? And the way things unfolded the decision making process on hidden scroll. And how they were going to approach the race. I thought that Castellano would be given a little more leeway to to judge. What was going on as opposed to going in with a dedication of polio? Coming back holding back and trying to rate. And frankly, you know, people are are Scoffing at at Delgado's maiden. But that voting express ran a very good race and for him to keep pace and stay in contact considering how maximum security was exceleron, ding. The second half of the race the last five eighths that was a good performance. I don't know if right. I don't know how much farther is going to go forward. But that was a good effort, and they both have paired up essentially their their previous starts. There's no doubt that there's no doubt that maximum security paired up voters voting express improved slightly and then. Shook code of honor and bourbon war they regressed slightly off the fountain of youth. But your thoughts about going forward. These four, you know. The first thing I noticed right away was that hidden scroll actually with kind of stuck on the rail hit the pull him up a few times. I don't know necessarily that. He was just trying to rate him the whole way, but he had to yank on a few times. He looked like he was pinned out. Maximum security was walking the dog, the other horse this horse was kind of had no hidden scroll had nowhere to go. And for me as as soon as I saw what was happening with hidden scroll. I thought he was done at that point. I was just hoping maximum security. Having set the slow fractions would have enough to hold on obviously was going to be tough for the closers. And and and those who isn't did close, you know, give them a nod. But this is, you know, then glass told us, well, you know, he took off. An opened up. And you know, obviously was they it was it was it was a range where the pace. Absolutely helped them on the front, then he's he's not gonna get that type of pace scenario likely in the derby. But in in the hidden, scroll, he he just looked like, you know, he had nowhere to go. And he probably should have just gone right to the front if you could've. The ships were. Even on towards us very confident going into the race. And I think they've lost too much open. I think the distance the derby is gonna help them to pay scenario's gonna help them. He's by noble mission. First crop son of Galileo and full brother to Frankel. He's done. Well on the dirt either work, you gotta keep in mind too. So it's it's. There's a lot of take out of that race where you can apportion some series books that some of the horses that would be hind maximum security at faint time forbearing and Mary west, you know, if you're gonna have to horses in the race what better way to go then to have. A speed horse and and set things up horse. It loves the clothes. And we'll see we'll see who else gets added to the mix next to looking ahead to this weekend and on that topic anything. Anything as we wait for the draws today. You know? I was I was I was really. Yeast east spoke Ben glasses where on the topic of the west about final jeopardy in this race. You know that would be. That would be absolutely astounding. If that horse would were to do something in the what? I like game winner, obviously the Santa needed during that that that race with roadster Instagram and game winner is gonna be really interesting because. You know, Larry best stencil Blay. Shutdown Instagram early last year to get him ready for this year and presumably. I don't know what what he's both even beyond the classic trail. I know he went then they ship them to New York for that race. And now they're putting him into the Senator derby. I mean, it's beautiful. You know course, and he shown a lot of talent. But seems like roadsters gonna. Play the same role that much better did in that restroom York. Yeah. It's true. What? What's interesting about this race, it that you bring it up the of the five, you know, name orces that are going in there. I don't know who else is going in game winners got forty five points. But you look if these horses are looking to move on roadsters zero. Yep. Mellow contest zero is grand ten and five eighty Lipsey this again five and three quarters. Was a hat side. But so someone's going to be left out in in the cold when the points, go around was at hundred forty twenty ten yes. So the twenty may not do a few of these any good that twenty might help Instagram a little bit. But you know, there's only a few doors to walk through. And and we'll see which ones make make the point spread to the a great point that some of these they need the, you know, they need a a walk off home run. And that's the case that certainly certainly the bluegrass this bluegrass field is going to be a capacity looks like a capacity gate said, and it it's I don't want to call it. A I don't want to call it a collection of what not, but it is a bit. It is a bit of a grab bag lineup for those that that have been following along it, it's. It some ways. Some like it hot is the is the most accomplished or s- really going into this, which is a little crazy to think about. It's it's one of those years kinda reminds me of frequently like from the years from the seventies. Maybe eighty but I kind of remember like cannonade year, you know, year where everybody seemed to have a shop. And I think it was a really big field that year, and you know, you had yours like that. Where just didn't have. A big even even the year with foolish pleasure. For example. He'd been gone seven seven as a two year old a champion. But it was people always felt like he could be beaten, you know, and. If if if game winner playing his role, it's opened up the doors for a lot of other people to try, and I think that's what you know every year. You're not gonna have the, you know, justify or Merican pharaoh or even a California chrome, and this this is more like a parody or I'm gonna make one observation though, there's an interjection on this. And that is the the knuckle curve ball that the situation here has has has forced itself on things in general. And because we really don't know guys if if game winner, and I suppose Omaha beach, at some extent, to course, and and and improbable if they had had a normal work schedule. How they how would they be coming into this this big mile in eighth race weekend? Well, you know, we talk about this all the time and some of the guys that wait it out. And like you say wait for the walk off home run that haven't, you know, run earlier in the year, and where they had they did have the chance here. But there's a lot of places to go. I'm not sure how much threw off the game that much. You know, Bob's used to thrown, you know, going to the relief pin and plan B all the time gonna run here. Maybe I'll move here. So it's not unlike him to have to adjust a little bit. And it's a great a good thing is for for his big big guys. They're not they're not like like game run. He's he's he's playing a home game. Right. He's here roadster. He's playing a home game of the other one that's running in the in the Arkansas derby already been there. So it's not terribly. I think more of more of a of thing. Here's I going to read off the top twenty. Listen, some of these names. You wouldn't think you'd be a vying for derby spots. You've got Brenda Walsh. Right. We love it breakout. Which is great Jason service kassy's in there who's in there a lot. But it's not, you know, a, quote, one of those guys think he's always there. Some would say he should be. Karen? I mean, he's he's. Very regularly. There's always always has a couple of prospects. And he got of course Belmont. Who's netflix? Not thought of you got Peter Miller who I don't know if he's going with gray magenta, so. Don't Wellman is going to join us. He's in the top twenty points. You've got Gustavo Delgado has been he's been he's been to the derby with Esto dick Mandela, who's obviously this is not his forte. But he can do anything. He wants to the horse. You got market hamming who's you know, trained all kinds of horses. He's not necessarily known for put noises on the derby plane, right? I mean, he's not necessarily known that's known pass to the west coast. So so I mean is it guys that have Mike maker was some dimensioned him in the bluegrass. I mean, he's got he comes with the kitten joy, right, but he's Razzie horses key. But he's not he's top. The Japanese like forty five point. Yeah. Well. Aloof? There's the two there's two slots, there's the euro slot. The case the Japan. So there's a lot of different names which adds to the the the the mix ally. It seems like it's a tossup. I if the heavy heads don't show up well said my tendency in that is the to run straight to the two year old champion. At seven to one. Right. Yeah. Given out seven I just threw that number out there. I mean who knows where we by the time we get through the weekend that. Obviously game winner the big physical horse. He's not a good workhorse. In contrast roadsters is horse a light frame tours? And it's one of the reasons why about that for ship them elsewhere because of his physical makeup. So you got to physical contracts in those two horses for a horse, a great work horse for horse that you know, wasn't cranked up game winner ran a heck of a raise glues by does. So you know, you Bob knows that he's won this race. He knows that you, you know, how to bring a horse to to the derby. I mean, he did that you know, we forget with American pharaoh was nursing that foot problem. He had to you know, delicately maneuver that horse. He was able to send him to Arkansas. And so we field. But when he did arrive in Kentucky he had to work for that. Win. You know? Absolutely. And even he's a he's one of those horses that digs in and there. There was a lot to like about about that performance in defeat and and the same with improbable really terms of being being likable in defeat given how wide he was every step, which is gonna apparently cost Drayton Van Dyke. The mount from what I understand. So that Baffert was very unhappy coming out of out of really a pair of of performances, even even though chasing yesterday was a winner. He wasn't thrilled with that three four wide all the way around you. Can't you can't right? Every like two to five even if they are. Before we go, and Gary young is gonna join us for a little bit. Now that he's had some oatmeal. And the your your observations, I don't want to move on without you, providing some some perspective, you know, you've been. Perspective on this in this sense. You know, the the problem that we have here is that. You had the jockey club. And. There Phileas soup and pushing this integrity Bill, they mmediately jumped on it even more after the tragedy tragedy at Santa Anita by concurrently. Introducing that Bill almost at the same time almost it was been concert. They speak about welfare they came out with this white paper now about how concerned they are about welfare at. But what they've never mentioned eve if they're gonna talk about this is that they've never mentioned synthetic surfaces. Now, they don't Jackie club or breeders. They want racing. It's because of the breeders in the owners that a lot of these synthetic surfaces were taken out may Dan was when went back there. Dirk dirt horses have an intrinsic quality that even envy MAG near said. My my grandfather Vincent O'Brien made a career out of. Buying American jerk horses. Right. Very something consent for American dirt horses. So this is conflicting paradox where let's conflicting stuff in. And it is a paradox that the people that are trying to. Harmonize internationally who are wanting to get away with basics and medication reform. They only say one side of the welfare issue when there's statistical data from their own database suggests another surface is far more safer than dirt. So that part of that question is now getting exposed because pita which TSE broadens equation has spilled the beans on it that pay not only do we wanna get lit Lasix, but let's get synthetic spac. Right. And that again now is a conflict for the jockey club. They don't want synthetic they want and they in cahoots with the tears gene had in pita. And you know, it's it's a real mess. And that's where we are right now Dianne Feinstein now once synthetics that synthetic word is out. They're all over. And it's again, one of the unintended consequences of that. You know a. Policy and an approach to the situation by strana group to to change the discussion, and you know, for for the people that that feel like this is this this discussion should be advanced. There's nothing wrong. And I said this from day one. There's nothing wrong with advancing that discussion, and but it would be nice and Graham motion made this point in his letter. We're happy to have this discussion as an industry, let's do it in a measured coherent fashion, not under this this cloud of confusion crisis. And what what I'm going to get back to again. And frankly said and wreck and Gary young is sitting to the side. One of the things that's amazing is to hear from from Petah suggestion and from Dianne Feinstein of all people to say to say about having about having a thorough examination of how this all transpired. Frankly, if if the Stronach group had done that from word go, and Jay Primin is driven this point home. If they had said, there's a bunch of things just like New York in with in twenty twelve and the task force. There's a bunch of things at work here, we need to get to the bottom of it. Let's let's put all our heads together. Collectively? Because we this is this is this can't go forward. Like this. Let's understand what the tributing factors were. But instead instead of just addressing the problem, they tried to create a different dialogue. And so now three weeks later since since the oath. Open. Belinda Stronach letter. You're you've arrived back at the place where you should have started which was addressing the twenty two fatalities. And in spite by trying to avoid that discussion. All you've all been done is make this all more confusing and difficult and created more of a pressure cooker. Yeah. Absolutely absolutely by trying to evade responsibility. They've they've only made this worse, and they're still going to have to take the responsibility. When there is the proper thorough investigation and just like the task force and the way so many factors. In addition to the surface came into play, and that's what should have been done from day one. Couldn't agree. More with their said, we'll have a lot to talk about next week. It would be talking to you from Oaklawn next today. Great have a great trip and Rick nice meeting you Steve I'll talk to you next week and so much sit for Nando everybody sire watch beg refocus brought to you by hill. And Dale we'll stay right here. Mike McCarthy and Aaron Wellman are going to join us in just a couple of minutes. But Gary young is on hand. How do you have you not have a chance? This a good morning to Gary young. How are you? Oh, you know Chipper for somebody slept three hours. You waking you don't you wake up like this? I mean, you don't you don't little water in your face. And you're ready to go. I mean, it's true. I'm useless until I got my lot in me, usually. Yeah. Today's a mobile. Yeah. Yeah. L meals a UK. Rosie's oatmeal Rosie's. Oh, absolutely. I've since I've left here, I've tried to manufacture something close to that. And I don't even like oh meal, and Gino come out and say, what are you doing some trying to make some oatmeal? You know, I I even screw up a little water. Right. So I'm happy to come out here and get my oatmeal, and blueberries and strawberries and bananas from from Rosie. I might be ready for a for croissant ham egg sandwich at at nine o'clock. Gerry I'm not eating going to ask you about the Anthony derby horses or the Santa Anita Andy CAPP horses. I'm going to ask you about call Paul in. What is going to be a war in that Bayshore on Saturday in New York, Jesus that is at war, isn't it? How about that lineup is sparky Bill going? Donte I believe so he worked fine here. He said he couldn't find a plane, but then when Baffert agreed to go with the much much better. I think that must be room for for von D on the plane. He's running isn't he running Baffert a horse in the in the know and not in the would he's not running. Desmond is not running. Even like the way work the other day. I think. Okay. No. I mean, he he worked average. I didn't. I didn't know if he was running or not it's he's just sending much better. But so now, so you're talking sparky Ville, much better. Call Paul Mu-chou and mind control. Yeah. Cuff rise tough race. You know? I mean. Call paula. He won the Swail. He wasn't cranked for it. The I guess he's trained very well for this race. And this is this is proud. This is this is the king's Bishop in in March some believers in April is what it is. Crazy. It really is. I mean, you know, is the Carter also orders on the Excelsior gazelle. Maybe we should around him McCall the Carter might have been easier. Cancel their world of trouble though. Yeah. That's true. Miss baller bunch thing. Yes. We'll trouble and Dino Rosso, right? Yeah. So, but that that's gonna are you saying you're staying here. You're not going. No, no, I'm I've got I'm staring at three weeks on the road between the Ocala sale the Kentucky Derby. So I will I'll stay here in root him on for my living room. I love it. Let's talk about this six pack here in California and your impressions after the past weekend where game winner and Instagram extra hope. No low contest. Oh, roadster and synthesis. All had final preparations much better. I mean, I think game winner will in the we'll run win the rice period. I I don't think Instagram wants to run that far. And I think extra hope could hit the board. But I think you know, I just think game winners is. Is is better than these horses has work with an older horse. The other day was very very very good. He was better than them. And I think he's gonna win the race. I mean, I'm not going out on a he's probably going to be six to five seventy five. But I think when the race. How's roadster looked since his with he looked? Okay. I mean, he's helix. Okay. I mean, the worked with with that horse of by or that his name escapes me that Baffert has down there that. The other day, and he he worked. Okay. But I preferred I just I just think game win is slightly better horse and preferred his work for this race a little bit more. No contest. Oh for for Sadler. There was such a it was such a excitement in buzz around him earlier in the winter. And then little disappointment of. No, he didn't. He didn't have the smoothest trips. I think he's I think he's okay. But I don't think he's in game winners class right now. Maybe later in the year. But I don't think he's in game when his class right now. Looking also Gary ahead to Arkansas and house, Omaha beach and improbable look the since coming back from Arkansas, Omaha beach, look terrific. I'd I'd I was just flying in from Miami. And I just saw his work on XP TV the other day. And I thought he looked terrific, and you know, improbable he saw out here galloping about ten minutes ago. He looked okay. I mean, he's. I've never been really convinced these Mylanta quarterhorse. You know, I I don't think you know, trading. Did anything drastically wrong? The other day, he got the horse did get caught at the wire. And they shows to make a change which is their prerogative. You know, he's he's an eye-catching horse. He's got a lot of white. And he kinda bounces like a rubber ball when he's out there galloping, but my one trepidation with him is that distance of of ten furlongs. Well, he's gotta go nine though. He's only nine next one. After that, you've already you've already leapfrog. Let's let's talk about the big cap. It's such a unusual circumstance to have the big cap, and and the derby on the same day and MacKenzie. The choice made to stay at home and and prepare for this. And it's it's a great showcase opportunity for for him on Saturday. The first of all quick quick. Do you think do you think the situation with arrogate as when he meant a tremendous race over there, and then came back here and wasn't the same horse led into his thinking of you know, what let's stay home with MacKenzie, and and and have a nice year here in the states. It might have. Yeah. I mean era gate arrogate. You know, he he you're right. He never he never replicated that that draws wrapping performance when he blew the start and ran gunrunner down and Dubai again. I don't that might have had something to do with McKenzie's. He doesn't carry a lot of weight. I mean, he's kinda he's kinda Scottie Pippen instead of Charles Barkley type of build, and I think that might have had something to do with it. But he's a very nice horse. I mean for this race, I give the night gift box. I'll give it to gift backs hers. Bella phenol there right now that was gonna ask you about her next. She. Yeah. I mean, you know, I prefer gift box for the handicapped who else have have actually been so focused on three year old's who else is intended for the for the big capital. Maybe dab Stor. Let beachview maybe he'll run that far. Right. Pavel. Just ran couple of just ran sticky. Good by the way on on Saturday in the World Cup. Yeah. He becoming back real quick. I don't think he'd probably. Talking about that. Yeah. I mean, I think you know, I think it's probably gift box and MacKenzie and the third choice will probably be about eight ten to one. You mentioned Simon Callaghan and Bella FINA coming off just now and she. Should overwhelm this field. I think mother mother I think bad when he was up there today mentioned something about he's she's going out of town. I think really, yeah. I heard it was going to be rather small field. I mean, Simon I guess you kinda rolled the dice. And of course, he was in Sunlen for the silent oaks there. And that was during the time when there was no racing. Here wasn't quite sure. And then they announced they're coming back. So he pulled the plug their and and decided to run here. And obviously, it's a great one. So why not so but she she should lay over the field. Yeah. You would think and if that's if if mother mother's go to the maybe is he's any New York. He's waiting for the fantasy at at Oakland. I don't know. He said something this morning. I'm pretty I was working. But I kind of remember, Bob, San Sam Abell, she's going out of town or something or someone asked her about it. And he said she's going out of town. Good. Well, what else? Gary can we can? We look forward to anything. Anything sneaking up when nobody's been looking. There's a. You know, there's some there's some decent horses around here. I mean secret spice fan, really good the other day. And I think she's could be a force in the what am I story? That's good too. You know, I would member when she sold it to Monia. And I liked her. And she came in the ring she got a little excited by. Can never school a horse to go in there. That's like, and she and she kind of reared up and she lost her balance. And she felt and she did a backflip basically, and she got up and Pamuk rock voted for one hundred twenty five thousand and she's always she's always trained like a nice horse. But her workouts for this race were very very good. And and she won and she paid a good price. Yes. She did. In fact, and I know Eddie Harrington apparently Lauder in the report. And I there was a rare comment on Twitter from from Harrington who said he was the price she paid that much. And I thought I'd never hear him comment on on a on a ticket cashed. Yeah. I was a good race for me to get you look at the the cap that the canary and you're ready you've been through the Cadillac for for OB S sixteen hundred. It's like Warren piece. I mean lifted. I've looked at it some. But it's a, you know, it's it's it's a marathon sale. You just gotta you know, you gotta kinda keep keep your head down. And just keep you know, when when the last review a Rover, you kinda get the idea when you walk out of there that you've been like eight rounds with Packy hour or something like that. But after that, you gotta go look at him. Then you gotta vet them. Then you've got to decide which ones are going to make the final cut, and then and then all this and that and the other, but we get funding new restaurant where in L Kaleh Mike's tavern Liait there. Was was it. It was it was something else. That was Mike tavern outta town. A little like a like a roadhouse type of place or the peanut shells on the floor. Peanut shells. We're looking for blood and don't fragments. That you're ever going to the size of a frisbee. It was very good. A lot of fun. But but Aaron Aaron Aaron you go to said never again, he's never driving that far for a meal. Alec. One of those place. I got there. I watch a couple of people go in. I sit way. Title win. But what they have been overall. Just a little little dicey. Anybody go in and it's very friendly. So. Got a hand hand that headset over to to Michael McCarthy. Gary young will obviously talk to Gary when we get to the derby. And we're going to sit Michael down, and we're gonna get Aaron welded to errands, and they're spelled together. Aaron A R O N. Go to mentioned and Aaron Wellman who's gonna join us on the phone and errands got a goofy week apparently. And normally he would come out in the mornings. Michael McCarthy joins us and Michael number one. I gotta tell you the it was crazy how on Saturday at at Gulfstream. I run into Erin Wellman, the little general and he's on the phone, and he's he's all animated, and he's we just wanted to kill row. We just want to kill row. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you of she two horses van. Super day catapult, Ohio. Nobody really deserved to lose that one. I actually thought we were beating. Took about three or four minutes for them to kind of make their minds up. Actually, it was eight minutes. But it didn't seem like it was that long about halfway through and thought they don't wanna see anybody get beat here. So it's probably going to be a dead heat which to my delight. Few minutes later, they threw up the white saddle towel the two saddle tile. And we were declared a winner. I was blown away. We'll made you decide to grab this horse. Air well-made had been tracking the horse for two years. He tried to buy them privately. Offer was not accepted as always had a bunch of backlash. Ransom. Very good races in defeat even though like he was getting beaten three four five links at a time running against very good company. We thought he was kind of course, they could win a race at del. Mar certainly did. You know, his time that day when we ran him for twenty eight thousand claiming for fifty random back for twenty eight his time was a fifth of a second slower than catapults was earlier in the day. He was one of seven Dryden seven winners that day, we decided to go ahead. Take a shot in the city of hope mile ran very credible that day as well. The turning point for his we sent him to Zona who's able to run against a little bit lesser class a horse for a decent pot. He destroyed him that day and kind of turn the horse around a little bit. I remember I found thinking the same horse. I remember he can't Pala Hatem right Hala logo and a little bit of a buzz. First time out think you want his first time out, I think he paid her on twenty dollars. I'm not snaking evens was on them and a little bit of a buzz. And I think he tried to move them up a little bit off of that. And he just kinda flattened out. And obviously when he dropped them in something. But I remember I came around there was there was some, you know, buzz among some of the Clockers here. And when he scored the first time, I thought maybe just might be. Good one. And that's probably what opened his eyes to Erin. San who? Definitely old class horse very easy to be around. Nice words to be around does need a whole lot of training couple, easy works. And we try to spoil him a little bit. You know Graham in the morning that type of thing whatever we can do. I was I was little gonna save done a great job of looking at the NTR a pool and city of hope is moved up from fourth to third. So that's a great job of list, here, whatever. But it's I mean, I can't now look at at Michael year and think about that you know, that big day in the sign out there winning that race. And you know, I wish I bet you you had him back. They're still certainly I'm glad he is where he is. He's obviously come quite popular in the stud barn, but. Enjoy the opportunity hopefully, find another worse like him someday. Casey calling Aaron Wellman right now. And of course, Aaron also earlier in the day, the eclipse partners were this far from winning the UAE Darby and. Great magician with with Peter Miller. But you must have watched you get a chance to watch you busy to see. All right. I did. I was certainly. Try to keep my finger on the pulse of everything clips owns and runs at the worst, man. Very very good second thought he was lucky not to win the race. Obviously had a little bit of a rooting interest later on with Axelrod. He's been over there and ran into prep for the World Cup. And. Didn't bring his game. And unfortunately, didn't look like he really had it all together World Cup night either. But these things happen. So long way to go difficult place to get a horse. You know, is is he going to stay there is he gonna come back here. Do you think it's my understanding? He comes back. I don't know when he comes back we'd like to get him back here. Hopefully, you know, we deserve to raise his out there that he can he can be competitive in for sure most definitely hopefully in good form, we get him back here and find out what works best for well as promised. Aired Wellman joins us an got a crazy week back and forth, the San Diego and. Got some some family things happening but on the weekend. Erin, you had such a big Saturday and the win that came the great one. Maybe a little unexpected we've been talking to Michael for a few minutes. Congratulations on Ohio, and and the near miss in the UAE derby. Thanks for having me on. And while this is quite a force hammer. Fiqh the white man in Wellman that the dubious for some right there. Thanks for. Aaron I wanted the first thing I want to do while we have the chance will visit about the horses in a second. But I do with the unique opportunity to have owner trainer together to bounce off each other Aaron your your overview growing up on the west coast and spending a lot of your formative years enjoying the racing here. Your thoughts about where things stand at Santa Anita. And where we're gonna go from here. Yeah. Look, we're absolutely positively in crisis mode at the moment. There's no other way to put it, you know, I don't really wanna put a damper on on this radio show or anything like that. But that's the reality that we're dealing with. And you know, Michael, and I grew up in southern California. This is this is our old stomping grounds, this is where we learned apply. Our trade where memories were made. And what really created the passion for the game. And to see us where we are. Now is really disheartening. And it's quite frankly scary. You know, Mike Lynn is pads have crossed starting in southern California's is young guys and certainly not professionals by any stretch imagination in the industry. And then, you know, Michael, of course, began to cut his teeth in the training round and our careers have run someone. Parallel paths, although in different occupations on the training side being in the partnership business and ownership side. And you know, when Michael decided that it was time for him to hang out his own shingle and comeback, California. Just about the time that he clips was getting off the ground as well. We're both in the infant styles Teijin of our of our businesses. And you know, we made a a big commitment to try to support Michael. And he's delivered the goods and a big big way. And you know to see Sanito where we're at at the moment in California racing where we're at the moment. It's not just the California issued this this extends well beyond California borders, and certainly can become a national topic. But you know, for guys like he, and I we're we're ambitious or motivated we wanna play at the top of the game. And we've got young families. We've made a commitment to be here in southern California. It's. It's the lack of voter term. It's really scary moment that we're facing right now. And I've certainly got some opinions on the direction we should need to be going. But I'll let you prompt me if you want to do so Steve, but there's no question where at a watershed moment as far as southern California racing is concerned. And the bigger pictures is certainly not without reach. Now. And and you know, we're gonna get tight for for time today. But we also wanna see some clearly some other shoes drop in dust. Settle. Movin moving into the weekend. So we won't be able to really flesh out everything air and right now, I do want Michael to respond to Michael your feelings with with what's transpired. Yeah. It's it's been a rough couple of couple of weeks out here very trying month. Great to see racing back here last week. A lot of guys on my side of the fence have been waiting for this. Unfortunately, we didn't have the best today's here on Sunday. You know, the game is changing. There are a lot of things about the game that need to change public. Perception is everything, you know. This is we live in a in an era where kids are rewarded for playing on team? Not winning but playing. Year people complaining about seven dollars croissant. That's called free enterprise. You know, this market is a little bit different than many markets are when you're on the eastern seaboard. I believe you've got five racetracks within three hours of themselves. Here. We don't have something like that. We're on a little bit of an island out here. It's a little bit of a niche product almost fourteen like with the caliber racing we have out here. I believe the plan was to kind of come on out here and this year and have more racing. More dates more entries. You know, it's a tough thing to pull off out here. It didn't really work. We've had obviously some inclement weather something we haven't seen thirty years here Levin, half eleven and a half inches of rain. And I don't know what it was nine days or what have you? There's no easy fix here. Obviously, everyone is doing their best to kind of do whatever. They can we've got. Obviously we've got the state involve now, which is a little bit trying. But I think anytime you have a privately run business with with state regulation. You're going to meet with some. Some trying times obviously, we've had some groups that have. Been less than amorous of of the product. We're putting on out here, which is another thing altogether. I thought it was wonderful piece here on Monday. When Nick luck came on the radio at a lot of very good things to say about animal welfare about the state of our game. And about the state of the world we live in now. So. Got a big weekend racing here. You know, historic day Santa Anita derby semi to handicap on the same day. Be nice for us to go out. And you know show the public what this is all about here. Really how much people care for their animals how much the patrons like coming here. I mean, I'm sitting here looking out at the beautiful mountains here beautiful racetrack, probably my favorite place in the world to train resource to see what's going on here. Whether I make my livelihood here or I'm just a spectator. It's it's tough to see it's tough to read about. Unfortunately, a lot about what we read about is written by people who probably don't have the finger their finger on the pulse. Like, they should obviously we have publications like the TD and the tedium is wonderful about kind of leading the industry insiders know about what's going on here. Some wonderfully written pieces, Danny Ross wrote a piece the other day that was very very good. Unfortunately, the problem is those are reaching ten thousand fifteen thousand internal it's it's it's it's it's self, you know. It's you know, it's it's within within all of our realm. It's not it's not an outward. It's not an outreach, certainly. It'd be wonderful. If we had an objective piece written like that that would show up into Los Angeles Times, the New York Times, the, you know. Paper and Chicago paper anywhere. This is a big deal. It's not just a California problem. It's a racing industry problem. So. Puts their best foot forward and go from there. Exactly concerns. This all we're we're out of time today, but I reach out the Aaron on a regular basis, and and you and so we will we will do more. I don't want to adjourn without some insight on surface and the the quality road Phillies debut coming up. Yeah. Hopefully, we get lucky here. Big field. Wonderful patriots about as good a racist. That's about as good bread races. You'll see in a long time. I can't tell you how much money there is instead fees here. Just to show you the game is healthy. Philly definitely wants to run a mile in eighth. We've been waiting a little while to run. So hopefully, we get get the festival here on Friday. Aaron best of luck with surface. We will see you this weekend. And we'll talk soon. Thank you guys. She got. I appreciate it. And as it happens. Here's here's Kip L ser again. This was a a Kip Elsehwere prepared product hammer. Thank you. We'll see tomorrow that. That. The pass with flying colors and. Want to thank Michael McCarthy. Aaron Wellman Gerry young sit Fernando Mark latte with a absolutely wonderful half hour, I perceive notes that people heard Mark latte. Talk more in that half hour than they have in decade. He's client, but is one of those guys doesn't say lot. What he talks you? Listen as a lot of sharp ideas. Very intelligent guy out here replay tomorrow, sixty nine and then hammer, and I'll pick it up again, and we'll have fields for Santa Anita derby day. Gene grass day and. Morial day at should be unbelievable Thursday and Friday. And of course, we will also continue to weave in the news and views regarding the difficult situation here, but we'll over come talk to you tomorrow. Apperances with feedback on Sirius XM radio. Hey, what's going on? It's. My good friends at express. But let's be honest. We know you love playing the race. But you can't always make its detract sometimes life just gets in a way of a good bet. What if I told you about a place, we never miss it bet and is start with house money? It say I'm crazy right will not express bet you first hundred dollars are on them. That's right. 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Part 2: Tony Black, Steve Haskin, Rich Eng, Chad Schexnayder
"Xm PRESENTS RAISES WITH Steve Handicapping interviews. This is Steve. Two second half on this Thursday. Tony Black joins us. And I. You know. There's plenty of drawbacks when it comes to the isolation concept and and having the kids at home and no school but in the black household a having. Tony home all day. That's gotta be just a challenge. Kylie's up to it only I I say the kids the problem is that I got a little bit mad at me. 'cause my mother she's ninety five years old and I just told her and she lives five doors down from A. You're not going no place. You need anything. I'll go get it. You stay in put income down here and that's it. She's mad because she's used to get in a car and just drive around grocery store in this that Pete is a listen. We're going to. He's twelve years old. He's got a ton of friends doing the virtual classroom. But that's only a couple of hours a day and then he wants to go out and I told him the limited you're limited you know there's not going to be all these Sleepovers and all this stuff. So He's mad at me mad. He's the only one that's down mad at me. She's she's not to school and she doesn't know any better not be mad at me. She's doing real good. We go for walks and put her in the stroller and take her all around so she's wanders happy right now but it it is so it's so different these it really is Haven't been out to the track and I'll be real honest with you. I haven't listened to you all week. I mean just strictly because you get up in the morning and it's the kids it's easier but then of course tracks taken a big hit. The not racing parks you know and then racing itself is in turmoil and to some degree anyway but You know the different lifestyle will get through it. Hopefully we'll get through it without any sickness illness. Any of any type. And that's all we can hope for that everybody's healthy exactly and you've got you know you got your mother In her nineties my father's ninety and he's he's locked down. I you know what Steve. I told the neighbors You know the kids Pete. Hang around with. I think we're going to limit you know the contacts and socializing and the mother is the When I initially did that the mothers got on they says I. You know you being scared and I said well don't you know it's not just scared a and it's not for me. If these young people can bring something home I've got a ninety five year old. Mom here you know exactly and I said but let's not let's not confuse scared with reality and reality Making a rational decision. That's not scared. That's a rational decision but even those mother's got a little the owed at me because I said no. Pete won't be out today out for just a little bit goal of Basketball Court. Play a little basketball. And there ain't no sleepover. That's all 'cause I don't know your their parents who they're making contact with so we're trying to do the best we can to isolate this thing and none of us have any experience. You know there's an in doing this but you try to follow directions. Say as least amount of socializing and contact is possible. You know that's all you can do. And no doubt you know Tony. The the part that is different from the the conversation I had earlier with Rickshaws Berg in New York where their soldiering forward and with with parks pulling up. Have you talked? Have you talked to Rice? All where Richie Vega must have been down in BS. Because I saw where he bought Bought something for For Nice money in the in the session yesterday of but You know how. How are people going to manage? I mean if there's you know you got the horses cooped up some places or pulling up training completely and others leading forces drain but aren't letting new horses in others are just limiting. How how much time anybody can be out there. I mean there's there's various procedures that are being installed. You know when I read this thing. I hit I called Ritchie and I hadn't been born for a while and I didn't know that what he was doing But he was getting off the just got off the airplane coming back from Cuba that he was visiting. His brother is with his brother's birthday. He said Kidney. There's no reason I says well. New York's raisin closed doors audie to public parks is not going to raise from. What really got me. A Little Code in their issue announced it was. You're not racing. But you're keeping the casino open says that doesn't make any sense but eventually got off the day later. Yeah Yeah but You know that got all out and then I haven't talked to him then. He went to the sale. And like you say something. That's fail but There was The they've limited like access to the backside to certain Larry. Cancel Tony Limited. You barely getting there now. I if it's crazy you know it's the toughest backstretch in the country to get on. It's ridiculous and that thanks that some of the people in management some of the people that have been there for many years and one of the security agents. That's totally ridiculous off the wall. You know they they scan your license when you go in you know like you know. It's funny they do all these things as they act like. They're trying to protect everybody. And the only thing they're ever worried about there is liability because they lost a couple and they brought it upon themselves when they lost a couple The one in particular with Mariel caltagirone killed you know and and when that happened. I'll never forget you know. We went to court. They went to court the cow their own family. I won't get into this whole this kind of make them not like me. At times they went to court to count their own family and and the tests was testimony. How the accident happened. The only thing they asked the people that go to court and I was there and they said had warned management about the potential hazard of having The chickens on the backside and on several occasions we told South Korea and mass morale and I said the only thing I didn't see the accident. We did sell them on several occasion. So now it comes down to the their lawyer says what are you can improve your at the backside. What do you mean? I can't prove it and I was on the track? This kid was getting drug to his death and screaming until he mercifully not doubt and and died there very shortly thereafter. He said well. You can't prove it you were there I so my lawyer. He was pretty aware that it's not my lawyer. The count room them lawyer up and says well. His license was scanned at six. Fifteen and the accident happened at seven fourteen so he was doing the back side. There's one time there's Pity about monitoring who goes in and out of the stable gate it worked against them in that particular case but I guess the horses are trained in it. It's it's it's tough for the divorce. Is You know being shut down this and limited training and and whatever. I it's not easy everybody's adjusting to it I give credit to the tracks that are running with closed audio closed doors but at least the people in racing or getting the benefit of having some work and earning some income. It's really a hardship for these trainers and owners for owners to be sitting there with horses weeks and weeks and weeks and who knows how long this is my life as they were going to stop this for two weeks and now it's just wide open and it's going to be Not just racing school and everything. I'm getting emails in school. Yeah it's two weeks and we'll reevaluate two weeks to see if we're going to let these kids go back to school over going to reevaluate two weeks to see of these choices and racing going to resume this thing. Nobody knows it's uncharted waters. No body knows exactly how long it's GonNa Laugh. You just have to hope for the best and we have to get through it but it is a financial hardship on on a lot of people. Yeah and hopefully. It's just a financial hardship and the people that we are with on daily hope. It's just the financial hardship because you hate to see it'd be a hardship where there's Death and mortality involved. You know sickness and that that's the real hardship but financially. I guess everybody will just have to get through it exactly exactly well Tony. We did have one exchange this week. One of our one of our listeners sent a A wonderful note and he. He was at The down at Aken and was in the track kitchen the famous track and they got all kinds of win photos up there including one of you from Delaware from a win at Delaware and have you figured out what the connection is wide there. It's gotTa be the trainer at most stable there so that own or had some horse there and I'm not sure without little stake at that. Reassurance was the name of the Horse and I for some reason I think I forgot you know even the connection to that horse but I think it was a little steak on the grass that that day and I don't think it was somebody that he owned trained was a connection to aching. But it did bring back a lot of memories because years ago When Mrs Paxton used to keep forces aching and one one year she hasn't go riding the trial and She had a couple of verses in the trials. So I did go and I wrote this one philly and it was a quarter mile leaving the gate forget name Dearborn S. I did wind up weighing in on her at the races. We we were crossing the shoot and somebody had walked across the shoot and this little two year old. She jumped over top of it. Propped jumped over top of the footprints. And I landed landed on the ground in front of her and that was my first experience today can and then I rode next race. I I wrote you know. They have the trial races trying to think a horse that I wrote. I can't think of his name. But we come down to the wire in a like a three-horse photo and I would've had anything. I won one race by knows. But usually you're pretty close to know and and I come back nate. Hung up another another number which happens at times and I finished second and then one of the trainers company that you can't be green tree here. Is it just folk retrained? I agree I want it not necessarily win against Green Bay. So that was. That was my second today. But what a great place Go on a weekend and and enjoy the The the races you. They're just trial races. They draw rank but I. I guess there was some connection with that horse to the reassurance. I couldn't I just couldn't figure it out but it had to be somebody that's from making and that they put the picture up in the catch him and I'm honored next next next time you talk to gory. Smith you ask. Ori Y Y you know who put that picture up there. I'm honored I even look pretty good on. The horse is cool picture and it was what two thousand and two so that was eighteen years ago. Didn't look bad for fifty one year old jockey that's unbelievable. The skill is still look good. Good our allies. I maybe didn't ride the best raises at but I always grab it myself and look at Mike Polish rider on a ray source and I put that to the old rider that took me by the hand and you heard the story before Chris Rogers and he taught me how to sit on the race for Chris. Rogers everybody everybody has to have the mentor. And you know the you pick up you pick up tips and you know various various nuances to the riding tricks. A tools will well. You know what that that that actually be a fun. Be a fun thing to survey of a bunch of riders and and have them talk about one thing. They learned from one individual and kind of compile a list. You know who taught you how to Change Change Change? That was stick. And you know and adjust your goggles and you got to pick up shifting. Wait in so many of the different things that are you know that. Make up the trade for those that have never those that didn't see When we had the chance when Bob before Bob Boorda's died and the particularly the fact that it's Louisiana Derby Week Bob Bob. Fordice's book about about writing ride to win is is that it has that element to it each chapter. Is You know the the stages of of preparing for a race and then in you know in race strategy and riding in and it's all basically takes you from start to finish and highly recommended especially because it's Louisiana Derby Week we think about forty one time Louisiana Derby and I went down on the van. I was rubbing galloping horses and Charlie Cocoa. My contract car holder had awards name special glow you know just deny source claimed and they decided to run him in Louisiana and We wound up Taking a flight down there and the flight was a total disaster out of I. Guess the Guardia JFK. Whoever was it was a total and they loaded the worst wrong when we took off. You know you're supposed to load them front to back. And they loaded him sideways in the plane. And if you don't love them if you load them sideways when the planes taking off and you have all that momentum taking off and climbing courses in a crate and a crate just about about wide enough for him to stand up and wrote them sideways. They get the paddling Brian. To stand up you know. They're trying to stand up. That's why you load the same direction of the plane from front to back so they can just lean back against the back of the crate. Well He's worth almost busting out as a kid. I'm standard whole even in the pilot comes back because great he's dead the the the the co-pilot he said he's dead at the crate. And he's got a gun in advance what he's not going. No place just trying to end up so anyway landed. They changed the loading process around when we landed in the first stop in the next stop he was all right but We wound up got Louisiana. I slept in the store the days and really did Stephen Not Making. It stayed in the store right next to right we got it's pouring rain and Tony. Look girth IOS. On the Horse. He won some races on he leaves. Gedi falls on said Tony comes off. And that's the end of my experience with the Louisiana Derby and they put me on the fan right to come back. They said the hell flying back. You can take van back. Now is my whole Experience Louisiana. Derby laid out there and the trip back. I think thirty hours on the band. That'll that'll happen. Here's everybody's got trips like that whether you're you know you're an owner you're writer. What grow whatever I would groom exercise right now. Never forget I jump out of the gate. He fell on exist. Liquor came off and that was it trip over. Oh what year was that. One that who won that It was probably a year before I started riding and he was stabled up in New York at times. Either Sixty eight or sixty nine and dig it up. Your name was special. Glow glow eleven. I love it sixty nine because I hadn't been you. Were just getting ready to break in. And and here you break and I went up to New York in spent Easter break. I think it was great. Whatever with some break in school that is still in school and I went up there. 'cause I gallop horses and when guards stay closed and all that and go stay contact with everybody but I had to stay in school and I would wind up galloping horses and on every shot I got and that was. That was an experience during school. Right well Tony. Tell Tell Richie Vega you WANNA get on his new fast. Anna called the the two year old. He paid seventy four yesterday for fast. Anna and that The breeze Nice. So that that'll be. That'll be your project for For the spring recommendation. If you save great night I'll send you the link I'll send you the link to the breeze stay safe take care of the kids and Kylie and your mom and We'll see where everything stands next week. Day well-studied everybody say well Tony Black. 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Joseph Allante two one five five zero one. Six eight eight zero to be the best. Give them only the best B. R. Equally now back to St Bic on Sirius. Xm Radio Show we stand Tawny Wad key races. Fifteen to the top of the hour on this Thursday and Steve asking standing by and as we mentioned earlier with Dick Powell talking about historic perspective on a derby somewhere other than for Saturday in May Steve asking certainly can provide a treatment on this topic. And maybe what can be done to to make it work Steve and make it palatable to everybody? Good Morning. Good morning to you. Everybody said if everybody's hunkering down I presume. Pretty much yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah you guys to the everybody. The kids the baby everything good. Yep Yep Yeah Mandy in Westwood working out of the House and they took out of day care so you know get ready for their for their move. You know in about another month so new crazy crazy times. It's well of course you know you you pretty much. You've been quarantined for years. Actually so I was GonNa say I'm going about my life the way I do everyday just lead John do everything exactly the I. Just tell her what she said. We need the grocery store and I tell her I said. What do you want me to go out To get Virginia tonight until I say whatever you want to tell go get Italian. So yeah I mean I'm under I'm under lifelong quarantine. You had to. You had to expect what transpired when it came to a delay but I was expecting it. Yeah how how does you know what? What's your gut reaction to it and what will make it work for everybody else. I'm I'm working. I'm working on a blog You know to give some possible thoughts. 'cause I mean this time you know. It's time to Ponder I. I had to ponder what I'm going to be doing with Derby dozen 'cause you know it is sponsored by Shadwell so it depends on what they wanna do so as of now. I know they definitely want to have a derby dozen so next week you know. They want to advertise this dallying and as long as they're willing to sponsor but the blood was certainly willing to run it. And it's the blood which is going to run it. I'm willing to run it so they will be dirty dozen next week and for some reason. Chad world's asides they. They want to discontinue it after next week. That interested I'm probably just going to continue it in my blog. You know in the hanging skin blog under pretty much the same format. I'll change the change. The title you know if if shed rule has the rights to the title. I'LL JUST CHANGE IT TO STEVE. Haskins three-year-old rankings. Or something like that but I know the readers they want it and I and listen. The preps are being run. I mean we've got three grade. One preps these these are racist to just shunned the sides. Oh there's no derby so what do I have to run these races? For how many changes are you going to get to win a grade one? If you're watching US ready to run run them would ensure you're going to say well. I can see horses like Charlotte. Okay you say oh you know baffert wants it back off on that horse and not rush him. As long as you're not rushing a horse but if you'll horses primed and ready for top effort so you run into sandy to Derby your the Arkansas therapy or the Florida Derby Wood Memorial Louisiana Derby. I mean they're all there and then you can decide what to do afterwards. You know you know which brings me to my my thoughts About the you know about the scheduling and I think the title of my column is going to be make the Belmont stakes the Derby. So I mean listen we noticed. There's a lot of decisions that it can be made the next few weeks or months you know regarding the rescheduling of the Derby You know and the ramifications it's going to have on other two triple crown races and make your rage me especially Saratoga. You know I mean you know. Churchill did what they wanted to do. You know it's obviously going to create a major upheaval in the Saratoga me. So you know I'm looking at two potential decisions you know. I think one of them is probably out of the realm of possibility but the other I think is much more realistic The I would be and again. This is obviously not going to happen. I would love to see a track like Santa Anita. Let's say or whoever wants to put up the money. Stage Your Mile Quarter race on the first Saturday in May well. That's what Paul Matisse Paul. Matisse said run the travers on on May second travelers. I wasn't traveling. I was thinking of Yeah I mean it's a guessing if you want to keep the name on it and Let's participated travers. Would have extra meaning because you have the historic name and it would be it would be the Derby and it's a race that Lot of horsemen WANNA win. I mean because of its prestige and its tradition. I mentioned San Anita Because of the assurance of a fast track he is a TV appeal Which by the way as you can see we're seeing now with NBC sports and Fox Sports TV. Gee All having extensive racing coverage of the next two weeks and I assume it's going to continue for the rest of the preps And Yeah I mentioned also saying needed because TV and XP TV by based out there. So you know I mean. It's a possibility if Santa Anita wanted to do it. It's not a once and would traverse fantastic. They could. I mean I could have two legs of the triple crown but You know looking at it more realistically. You know if if they don't do something like that I just can't think of a reason why naira Obviously continues to race without within. There was no patrons just shouldn't run the Belmont stakes scheduled or a week. What two or even three early. They can run it whenever they want. First of all it would replace the Derby as the target race for all the three year olds. Who to quote MEATLOAF for role revved up for a classic with no place to go These you know these horses that had been prime for this all year so it would be the only sporting event to bet on it and the nationwide and worldwide handle in my opinion would be through roof you got the TV rights All eyes would be on Belmont and I said you know we already have major race coverage under three on three different networks you know with NBC and Fox and Kiwi and in a crazy year like this who says we need to have a triple crown. I mean the whole year be screwed up anyway. So we don't need to have a quote triple crown. We you know we. We can run to three races this. They don't have to be in any order and run as triple crown But listen as Churchill. Downs demonstrated in its decision where to reschedule the Derby every track for itself and its way to Belmont stakes would be the star attraction of spring instead of the Derby You know and as you said if neither does keep the Belmont on schedule I just believe the nationwide and worldwide handle would be enormous and the only sports betting outlet in the country and in the world the only sport running the only game in town is they say and you know the TV. Networks are going to be clamoring to televise live sporting event. They willing they wanNA tell. That's already come to pass and I understand that you can't run a large classic field at a mile and a quarter at Belmont because it would start on the turn and some some people might say. Well you really don't want to have forces go from a mile an eighth to a mile and a half. Well you know I looked it up. Didn't stop Sir Winston Cone a-list ruler on Ice Drizzle. Meyer the Tara. Rags-to-riches Arava Colonial Affair Danza connection. Caveat can keep those yellow summing temperance hill coastal from for went from winning the Belmont never having run farther than a mile eight. That's thirty five percents. Thirty five percent. The last forty Belmont winners had never run further than a mile and an eighth. And second if you look at it with the Derby and and looks like possibly or probably the preakness moved September. There wouldn't be any place on his calendar for the Belmont that I can see. There's just no place to squeeze it in especially you know with the travelers in the high school preceding. Derby being forced to move to an earlier date. It's going to be hard enough. To squeeze those three races in from July to Labor Day and then follow it right up with the preakness. By the time you get around to the Belmont. Everyone's going to be thinking Breeders Cup training and not gonNA run the Horses Breeders Cup classic coming off a mile and a half race. We ready so that when the Jockey Club. Gold Cup was a mile a half and it was a total disaster as a prep for the classic. You know a lot of people and myself included feel the cost easy goer any shot at all of beating Sunday silence by running a mile and a half and dulling him to the fact to the point where he was just too early in the race and just drop too far out of it and also you can't have the Belmont compete with Jockey Club. Gold Cup I mean get hurt or game. You've got to go into into the Breeders Cup and who's getting really care that much about the Breeders Cup point like I said everybody is going to be thinking everybody's GonNa be thinking British Cup at that point. Yeah when it doesn't think he's too you know what if you look at it. Churchill downs you know by moving the Kentucky Derby GonNa lose one major element the great mystique of the Derby. You know that separates it from other races is that you have horses going around a quarter for the first time now this year they're gonNA go amount of quarter just a few weeks after going amount of quarter and the travelers and that's not exactly an ideal scenario who's GONNA WANNA prep our quarter race in a mile and a quarter race. Well there's four straight I mean if depending on what happens with the travers. I brought this up immediately the other day because the travers the Derby Gold Cup and and Breeders Cup the Weird circumstance I mean. I couldn't find Steve. I can only find some of the great historic Route goers I I can only find three straight wins at a mile and a quarter. I can't find anybody or three even restraint for money. Yeah Yeah you know what I I. I can't help but wonder what would happen if not just decided to go. Toe To toe with the Derby keeps travelers where it is how many how many New York horsemen would want to win the TR- Travis and all its normalcy and its prestige and its tradition and its rightful place on the calendar then a makeshift Kentucky. Derby I have no idea. How many would but you know would be enough. Diehard New Yorkers to take top horses away from the Kentucky Derby I duNNo. It's possible. You know you look at somebody like Chad. Brown was born around here. Who Robin Lopez said. He'd rather win Derby more than any other race. Chad Brown would rather windy. Excuse me Travis. More than any other race Chat Brown Chad Brown and rubble. The Pentagon obvious that our New Yorkers grew up with the travelers. And if they're on the calendar Jackson away would be you know. Let me run in this. I don't know how they would get for the thing that you can get twenty horses. Then I saw I saw people wondering about loud about that. I mean and you know and of course there's you know there's so many other things that are around on the schedule over the summer the other regional derbies that that that populate the the calendar and then you've got got Pennsylvania weeks later so there's a lot. There's a lot of moving parts. Let's shift away because nothing's GonNa. We're not going to solve anything here. Let's talk about the past weekend. Could decide it might be easier and safer to stay at Acworth dot and then you could easily run to Belmont at a mile and a quarter or you can if you can or you can keep it at a mile and a half. I mean they did run. The Belmont successfully ducked through the decade of the sixties. When when Belmar navision you built. So it's an it wouldn't be a first. So there's there's lots of scenarios to ponder like I said there's lots of things to look at. I just hope naira looks at the belt. That's what I'm looking at right now. I just WANNA classic race for these horses to point towards tablet target race. And you're not gonNA know Derby no preakness Belmont wanted. It'll be the star star attraction of the country one of the top sporting events in the countries that time. Zeke top sporting in the sporting rent. So it's just something I hope naira. Somebody's listening and at least gives it some. That's why that's why Paul Thiessen suggestion. Yesterday about the travers on. May Second Fascinating for sure. That was that was. That's really clever because then and then you run. Belmont on June whatever it is June tenth. Whatever the schedule I forget. What the data's Saratoga you know to make up for the travelers. Everybody's GonNa want you know. We rather watch the prime for a big race in August. So you have to figure out about the development is a classic but I. I'm listen they WANNA do to Travis. I'm all for that too but we'll see we'll see if I'm sure Paul's I'm sure Paul's idea has been Has hit the corridors at a at a you know in the executive office Steve Let's talk about The Dow and Charlatan and even a little bit Even a little bit about fuel pass and then get quickly to the Louisiana Derby as well. Well I mean obviously you have to be impressed with no doubt for. What are you accomplished? You know going through turns for the first time and you know go go ahead and head you know the half in forty six and just hang hanging tough stretch like he did in his previous start My only thing again depends if you looking getting a dow as a a first Saturday in May Derby horse or should be horse. If he's September Fifth Derby Horse then Bob Baffert has still has time to basically reverse his style of running. I don't I don't WanNa Derby who who runs so much faster earlier than he does. Late is closing. Fractions are are are extremely slow. He hasn't had improved undisturbed now. He's run three races and they've all been three three quarters on telegraph so he has not improved is not gotten any faster he was from his maiden start and yeah listen Bob. Afric took the blinkers off the horse so he obviously had intentions of trying to teach them to rate but he chewed rail so he had to go to the front so again. I don't know if we listened. We learned again that he's a tough competitive horse but as far as a derby horse. I don't know he's got a reverse that I WANNA see him run slower earlier in faster late. So that's you know that that that's my main take on that race and then people say well you know you can just barely be eighty to one shot crew but first of all eighty to one shot was was pretty far ahead of the third horse and he shouldn't have been eighty to one you know he had he had finished links records behind. Max Field get finished. Two and three quarter lengths behind Moy His best racists in his life or in the slop so we should have been probably twenty to one. You know he's certainly shouldn't have been you know it was. It was the same with King Guillermo. He'd never should have been his crazy odds either so I just think that That this Republican Steve at three horses in a race. If he thought that no shot he had to watch his. That did have a big shot in the race. A huge shot. Why would you run an eighty to one shot? If he didn't think he had a shot so aspiration obviously thought he was a much better than it looked on paper you know and he ran to it and and you know what happens in a race. You silver prospector. Had A terrible trip down inside and he had his hesitate. And you know steady you know two three. Six teams poll had nowhere to go so he didn't have the best of TRIPS So you know you look at it. A horse like three technique was wide every step of the way four wide and I turn four wide all the way down back stretching around the turn you know made his move and you got tired. You got tired and SLOP. You could see the way he had his way. He had his head cocked base and ran a good race. You know first time out. I just don't know how far he wants to go as Charlotte and he looks freaky. I mean he. He ran is zero in his first. Start and I had sent into Serbia for his his his last number. And you know it's been pending for like two weeks already Rowsley as long as it's been so I'm waiting to see what he ran in this race but listen on one hand. He beat absolutely nothing. We don't know what he beat. I Know Great Powell was highly thought of Flavian. Pratt had been working him every time. It was very high on him and he just left him. But you know. He didn't have you know he got an easy lead. And he just basically sauntered around there but if you watch the horse I mean he just floats over the ground where he accelerated in the stretch. He's obviously very good horse. And people are GonNa say well you know he's towns bites downs? Don't WANNA go out on a quarter. Well you know that's a misnomer. I mean spice. Downside Golden Ticket on travers. Decide Haynes Field won the Jockey Club Gold Cup. He signed two other horses that one grade ones at a mile and a quarter. So it can be done you know especially if you have the female family to To kick them on a few extra furlongs so I'm not GONNA hold heights. Despites down to too much against them. But you know most of the spikes downs do WANNA GO SHORT. But there is always the exception but he you know he doesn't he doesn't look like a sprinter the way he runs So you know. We'll see what happens. He's a K. He's the kind that you know. It's obviously would have to rush. You wouldn't want to run them into Derby off at three lifetime starts but he would have to be wanting to especially the fact that he's done and justify but now with the Derby change you can bet backwards GonNa just lay off on him and bring him back A lot more slowly and let 'em progress better and by September fifth you know he could be an absolute monster so He's when I was very very very high on just like the way I just liked the way he did it. Alan and As far as as far as the Dean Jeff Ruby When is a very good very good good horses? They're they're going to be heard from. I thought I thought they both look good on paper going into the race and then he was very Very close race so we'll just see what happens. You know when both these horses go on on dirt isn't they could improve on the dirt you know we saw it with animal kingdom animal kingdom one eight and. I don't think this I don't know if it happened again. But Animal Kingdom won the Kentucky Derby in his dirk debut never run on dirt in his life and he wanted to derby so anything is possible. But Yeah I can't knock either one. I mean I thought they both had very professional. You know it was a workmanlike performance but it was It was the class you performance from a visual standpoint. I like what I saw. I can tell you because I I had some back and forth with Jordan Wyckoff to They got his big. They ordered from From Jerry Brown from third graph and they ran he and invader in twos. Well I didn't I didn't I didn't think it'd be that's it. That's that's that's good. I was fast They were going fast all day but still to run into that. You know obviously takes into consideration a lot of different factors but it's a minute to at and then starting good evening. You don't want to this time of the year that's about what you want to see a horse running twos wanting to have you know you don't WanNa see what's right now running negative numbers because then you have to keep them keep going and you don't want peeking through early so running a two now You know if they improve another point or two you know one zero. That's you know that's what wins off a Lotta Derby's so if they handle the dirt there obviously Have to be you know into consideration but again we have to wait and you know unless unless somebody picks up a race somewhere. We'll have to wait until Labor thing and we'll see you know we'll we'll see how the two of them get managed to it. It gives you all kinds of options. I mean they can. They can head toward turf assignments. They can poach whatever they you know. Whatever maker and Ward WanNA WANNA try with the horses that I think probably got overlooked over the weekend? I I remember by the way about my thing by the way bell much. She is run on June Sixth D Day. But we Derby Gate New Year. Pretty Funny let's turn fairgrounds and we're going to hear from Chad checks. Nater a little bit enriching yet This morning but Steve. Some thoughts about this big bulky field We know Farmington road who was a e for pletcher is gonNA head toward the would Such you know just one eighty right now. Give us some thoughts about the interesting group. Well I can name any horse. That can't win this. I mean I can make a case for every single horse in here. You know even even some of the long shots favorites. Don't look that screw. Unfortunately it was not a strong favorite By us the fastest horse in the race. But there's going to be other speed in there so I don't know if he's going to you know get a comfortable lead like he did last time out in the South West but Again I listen to a horse. The horse have likes from the time. He broke his maiden Is made you said. And I'm I'm a big Fan. I know that his second to modernist was either slowest of of the two Two divisions the slower of the two divisions in the original star but he was coming off he was coming off a maiden win and I think he's worth that's getting better. I love love. Love his pedigree emmys bread for run two miles you. He'll he'll run all day and You know considering the fractions at second division where they went for forty eight and three Twelve three I you know. I thought he ran well. He made he made up He made up ground in the stretch. And we don't know how good modern it's modern as post fourteen in this race. A lot of good words that are set a parked out there but We got a lot of a lot of horses. Would trouble lines on here. You know and if you're looking for like a big long shot horse like mailman. Money is broke from post ten in the risen star in that same division and he had a bad start. He was wide every step of the way after breaking post position. He made a movie with right into contention anyone's up He wanted to fourth in race. He was beaten two and a quarter length. Doing half links. So you know he can certainly He can certainly improve in this race. catch the town. I know he's coming off an allowance race but he didn't have a good trip at all and he was just barely barely beaten in that race and of course that beat him is in the to shake some action. Who's WHO's WHO's not a bad horse Start looking at all these horses. Another words that coming off a troubled race that could run big in here. Who you know. What's fairly highly sort of early on? Who's got the pedigree sharecropper Al Stall who You know broke his maiden in his second start and you know I tell you look good. He'd be accession when he broke his maiden and then put them in that that allowance race would shake some action and Chester town. And he he he he got. Shut off you know. Turning into the strategy was behind horses and Miguel main had a steady in the race and he. He went up four beaten. Four lengths improving here. Yeah you should improve off of that you know. Roll acts coming from California. How good he is Porto some. That's I'm I'm not quite sure he certainly is capable of finishing the money. But you know it. It's very odd that you have a horse right going into this race coming off three straight mile and an eighth races already so that would tend to dull horse and he did. He was dulling the wizards he got shuffled. Back to the back of the pack. Made up Some ground late to finish third. But you know the race before that. Yeah he won a. He broke his maiden my almost eleven links. I don't know how good the sources and that's the place you pletcher worth I'm or force but he's certainly worked. You can't throw out you know he gets I read or keys in here. You know and then you got enforceable. Who's GonNa probably be the favorite? But you know he's GonNa need a really good trip in here And you gotTA horse like New York. Traffic who's going to supply a lot of the speed A AGAINST WEALTH VALUE. And you know in his last start. He had a terrible poetry book from Postal Eleven. And it was. It was on under pressure every step of the way you know again. I didn't go fast. You know in that second division but he like I said he was under pressure and on top of the stretch. He finished third so you can't throw him out. I was like Lynn. Lynn's map who who really have a good trip at all in the In the risen star it was six but he was beating on four links and he's had a rough go of it I suppose the Marchesi marquesses really really likes. Zorzi thinks from day one. Yeah and you know I you know I spoke after all these races. And and he's you know we were going over his horses and we were talking. You know talking about top. Warsi and he said she said. Let me tell. You don't overlook Lynch Map. He said this is a much better horse than you think he. He really hasn't gotten a good trip and when he broke his when he should be when he won an allowance race back in December. He beat Mr Monoploy and accession in that race. And then in the Smarty Jones. He you know he was on the page the whole way. Trying to trace that Chase that Gold Street and it was a very sad story. That's not the way he wants to run. He doesn't want to run right up on the pace that way he did when he broke his maiden But he look. He looks like a horse that wants to stalk and then in the recent star. You gotta come from eleventh and like. I said he was beaten only four lengths. You can't throw out. Silver State obviously has never run a a bad race. He's got approve you on to win is even when he broke his maiden it was a dead heat and he you know he sort of hung a little bit right on the money. They're coming to the wire and Hungary will be this next starting allowance race In the Lecomte you know he couldn't catch enforceable so that we just don't know but now we're starting to get into the bed post decisions you know into post thirteen. You got modernist and post fourteen. And if he's going to have to bust out of there but like I said you know there's other speed in this race so he's going to have to do some heavy duty running early and we'll see how good he is. He could be good. She showed in that race. But you know it was. That was the speed favoring track especially on on the rail and he broke from post one and he's just pressed the pace of very slow pace the hallway and ran significantly slower than the first division. So so basically what it down to is that any anybody can can win this race. Is there anybody you liking here specifically? Well there's horses. I have affection for including Royal Act. I I loved that performance in in the Louis But Lens Map is going to be. A I can tell already is is going to get some Mojo action. I Know Marcus who will talk tomorrow. Marcus I think picked him and you know from from a last race scenario major fed if it figures to yeah major fed figures to get a terrific Inside trip save ground and then kick out your the Rosero getting aboard adds to some appeal and boy it. It'd be a pretty nice story of Greg Foley could follow up on sister. Vicky success last year funny story a an an owner who will remain nameless. You know he had contacted million. Just said you know if listen if you see any you know young horse you know that nobody knows about that you know might be for sale. Looks like he could be a derby horse. Yeah just keep an eye on them. And let me know so you know I started you know I was watching races and I contacted him and I said listen I have for you. I said You know major fed. You just broke his maiden I love everything I i. I love the way he moved. I love the way he did it. I love love his pedigree Certainly is going to get him. Outta quarter and he should definitely improve. The only thing is they started breath numbers and his Iraqis in numbers were very slow so so there was no. There was really no interest there because he was too slow. Well well his Serb number jumped like about for about five or six points when he ran second in the in the risen star. And I don't know how much you could chop now but so I've got sort of weird Mixed feelings but he's the He's a resource that would have to be pulling for only because of the fact that I you know I liked them from from day. One and I've been following him very closely. I've been making lots of mentions of him in in the dirty dozen the in knocking on the door But we'll see we'll see what happens. I like I said I'm a lot of these mentioned. What are these long shots? I wouldn't I wouldn't be surprised to receive some forty or fifty dollars. Come in here and we'll actually be good nice getting you know feeder can make it But they're saying they consider Derby make it to wherever the different you know seven really hasn't panned out the way they're giving up on was that now. I wouldn't give up on either. Well it's it's a it's a terrific card and in fact we're going to We're GONNA talk to Chad Checks Nader and Marcus and more Today tomorrow to its angles. It's a great running mate. You got three maidens you got a couple of allowances and then The state bred stakes. Just a terrific. Terrific season highlight Some people say there is a star. Card sometimes overshadows Derby Day card but not. It's not the way it's happened It should be it should be tremendous. Let me pull up. I've got I got to get the rich and yet as well and Chad so enjoy. Stay safe necessarily the the kids in Connecticut and Theo and was actually get out soon enough soon enough. I'm I'm not allowed now so I have an excuse but maybe one day it'll be. It'll be theo and Mandy and west. I get out so Robert Hoping to get to Connecticut. One of these One of these weekends coming up a senior room just getting a car and just go right to the house and remained cloistered. Exactly I I suppose that that is. I think people can do that except Mandy. You'll have to. You'll have to do all the occupies anytime you need to go to the bathroom. You know you got to allow at least forty five minutes. Why she's gotTa do all the disinfecting and I'm sure she's doing it anyway for the baby and you know in general. I'm talking about since she was a young baby everytime everytime she's going to bathroom which forget about it door closed and she was even in the House for our laid. Thanks Buddy I appreciate it. We'll talk we'll see where things are next week. Let's probably take our last break in the morning. Got Chad checks nature. I WANNA get in For the fairgrounds review And I think Casey. 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Nearly ninety percent of our students are employed in the racing industry immediately upon graduation for scholarship opportunities and more check out our website you ate at Charter Dot Org Sirius. Xm Ford's presents raises with Steve. Big Horse racing handicapping interviews. This is Steve. We're back twenty-five into our three rich and standing by in Las Vegas and absolutely had to get the rich today given the situation in Las Vegas as the casinos going dark and the whole situation is surreal in so many environments but gotta be particularly so in Las Vegas which is just completely driven by the tourist trade and rich of you know. I hope everything's okay. At least you know health wise. I'm fine and so is my my wife in the family out ear and but Yeah it's It's pretty difficult times. you talk about the tourism It showed the seriousness of this Corona virus pandemic because the shutdown the the tourist industry. You know we all the casinos closing in the state of Nevada. I mean that's really cutting off lifeblood that cuts off our number one revenue stream and the potential for thousands and thousands of employees Not being paid and it's also You know a service industry meaning that people rely on a large part on tips while they're not going to be getting tips for quite a while and I I know a couple of casinos were more than a couple but the summer are reaching. Try to help their employees during this time keeping them on on payroll anyway but It's GonNa be extremely expensive. And it is a very painful buried economically and also Healthwise everybody's parks in their social distancing Steve even in advance of the casinos. Having to to shudder rich the sports land landscape obviously You know when it comes to the you know the race books. Sports Books That evaporated Very quickly and leaving really racing. I it's a such an unusual of circumstances that that the racing game can function under these unique conditions. These these strained and unique conditions and for as long as it lasts It at least provide some diversion and some action for those that You know that are eager for it some thoughts about whether the Derby postponement to September. And and you know what what what your thoughts are as unfolds before I get into that subject to you. I just wanted to let the folks know that You know certain things were happening here in Nevada and Eventually Governor Steve to making a address to the entire state at six o'clock on Tuesday and He was pretty adamant when he was asked to getting again about the closures. A this is a very serious pandemic and should be taken seriously by all sorts not Nevada but throughout the country. And I know from dealing in talking with Some of the casino managers At at first they tried to stay. Open up there doing everything. They could to disinfect. All the machines and the seating and the restaurants and shows one by one you can see the because of lack of people coming out Show started closing. The restaurant started closing Than the sports board went completely dark because the the league colleges suspended or cancelled their activity and I know from horse racing point of view. I was Kinda hoping going into Wednesday. Steve that We would still be able to use the phone. Apps because that's not include a social gathering It was using your your cell phone or mobile APP to continue to bet on horse racing. I think thank goodness there. Are some racetrack still operating Sans Fans but The final chip fell Late yesterday when Gaming Control Board said no When when the came down all gaming machines were to close at midnight on Tuesday that included All the cell phones and Mobile APPS that people use here in Nevada for sports in for offices as far as The Kentucky Derby moving to September fifth. That's a well I obviously. I heard determined. She seen the term used multiple times. Many Times uncharted wearing unchartered waters. And so You know I applaud the strength of the decisions by Churchill downs by Keelan to cancel their meeting. That's that's an incredible piece of news. We'll be talking about her generations on forward that Kenyans one of the strongest was popular race. Meets the country actually not run? It is a really really a cup filled us while let the you know for the Derby moved to September fifth Personally I don't have an issue with it. These are trying times. And they're doing the best they can to keep the tradition going at least having in addition to the Kentucky Derby It will obviously change the triple crown as we know it at least for one year because now the races eventually when we find out what Naira GonNa do at the Belmont stakes What the stronach group and Pimlico is GonNa do the preakness We actually the triple crown races in quote out of order. But it's not the first time the triple crowns been run out of order so Historical they in front of me but It has not always been Derby preakness. Belmont so not real interesting to see as we progress houses on the two races fit into the schedule and that I know there are certain Fluid situations with -portant three year old races. And what's going to happen with them and you know what the processes are you talking about like after the Belmont usually the the big race coming up next the hassles invitational the mom. Nothing you got the travers of course at Saratoga. They got the Jim Dandy racist like that that are going to now be an interesting situation. Churchill. I had read that. They're considering possibly adding more point races. Yeah so then. Some of these races are going to be key races and trying to make the Kentucky Derby field so there's fluid movement there. It'll be interesting to see how this progressive regimen for you. You know you've got Santa Anita even with the limited schedule that they've been running And they've got very nice card setup for Saturday. I haven't had a chance to even mentioned. And we've been so focused a little bit the starting to arc toward covering fairgrounds and the Louisiana Derby Day action but Saturday the San Simeon and the Saint. Louis Ray as well on Saturday Santa. Anita in fact is a very when you sit down to handicap You probably haven't gotten to it yet. But the the TURF SPRINT. San Simeon got very strange circumstance seven Horsfield and all but one of them making their seasonal debut and integrated steak. I I can't have it. It's what is it march it so it's ten ten eleven weeks into the season can't recall at at this kind of a juncture seeing so many six out of seven that are making a seasonal debut. Morad Khan for Doug O'Neill second of start off the claim and one nice allowance sprint shortening up to five and a half off the off the claim for fifty He's got form us. A seven year old veteran by Raven's. Pass everybody else sparky bill making the four year. Old debut for Bondi. Wesley Ward sends out bound for nowhere for his six-year-old debut. Sy- Stran- for Sadler and around making the six year old debut. Peter Miller got surrender now the morning. Line Mayor She gets in at one sixteen. She's making her five year old debut Voodoo song the Longtime Linda Rice Trainee. Very Schwartz send out to Mandela. The supposed to try to fashion him maybe into A SPRINT TURF sprinter. He's making his six year old debut and King of speed for Bondi last seen in the La Hoya So it's a weird I. I can't ever remember seeing that many horses making seasonal debuts in one great at stake like that they just unusual. I have not looked at the entries yet. Haven't done the work yet But I will do the work. Thank goodness the handicapping sheets that I do Steve in my subscribers through the race day Las Vegas Dot Com website that the vast majority of my subscribers actually didn't add so they can still bet on the horses which is good for business anyway You know as far as that's concerned That one maybe there are still a quantity of horses. That are coming off the shelf that might help the population at Santa Anita and another thing I was thinking about to the day was one turf. Paradise announced that they were closing early for the season. Usually they race through the Kentucky Derby Weekend The fact that they're going to be shut down for the end of March all of April in the first couple of days of May That was that was kind of hoping and thinking that maybe some of those sources some of those trainers would qualify for some of the you know some of the conditions at Santa Anita certainly not the top conditions but You know when you're trying to fill races on a daily basis that you look for many horses you can glean from to populate the condition book You know maybe they could certainly maybe draw some of those horses and write some of those races and conditions to to add a little Meet onto the bone so to speak so I'm not sure that's gone. But that might be interesting angle for for increasing. The horse population is through paradise. Well they got the bonus They they got the you know the Mustang new ship in win concept that they announced a few weeks ago. So that hopefully bring some of the doors back You know in in recent the last. I'd say the last couple of weeks when we've talked to the west coast connections. Things have been a little bit little bit more slightly more upbeat at least talk to Michael McCarthy for instance on Monday and and Michael was you know cautiously optimistic and it some some incremental steady progress. But the rich of just glad you've got you know I'm glad you've got some action to focus on and of course you mentioned race. They LAS VEGAS DOT COM for riches southern California analysis and the weekend weekend looks okay and I don't know how long it lasts Just you know you just gotTa hope that That this circumstance can be kept At least static for now with with this handful of venues running. Yeah you know I. I've been following on social media. Some of the conversation Steve. About you know why racetracks allowed to keep running While all the other sports are are closed. And you know for people who have not been On the backside of race tracks You know a lot of people certainly have been on the front side of racetracks but these tracks are operating without any fans so there's obviously the social distance is not an issue for that. They're running races in the basically a theodore racing. But you know the backside at any racetrack in America is its own little city and people quite frankly even in these times of the current a virus. Unfortunately they do have to pretty much in Iraq and Be In some certain close proximity to one another. But you know horses Need attention twenty four seven. They don't know how to feed themselves. They don't matter bay themselves out of Good Alpha the racetrack. It takes human hands to take care of these magnificent animals. So you know regardless of you know what's going on. With the health situation these people would still have to be working and if you throw in the fact that you know. The the continuation of their activities is racing. Whether it'd be in the afternoon bite There's really not a different threats so to speak of passing on the crow virus these people are in in the CBI ATMOSPHERE. Already on the backside. Every track in America. But I'm sure they're a all taking extra precautions you know maybe more hand sanitizers and stuff like that may be using a rubber gloves and things like that wearing face masks but whatever Preventive measures can be done. I'm sure the practicing on the backside of various check in America. But you know it's it's good to see that they're still trying to keep the engine running and I'm I'm sure that people are doing everything they can also be safe healthwise well wretch stay safe and we'll check in next week and and hopefully we still have got you know the racing the the talk about and and you know we'll go from there. I certainly hope the you know the call. I guess the the close race track would would come from. Probably the governor of each state and they control the racing commission that each state and I know I know. The governor in Maryland was trying to close L- all in the harness tracks in Maryland. I guess they convinced him otherwise. I'm glad they were able to but You know as we go day by day week by week into this process of Trying to isolate things I hope the racetracks can continue but every every fluids so you know we'll see what happens rich and everybody and Chang for pro and check in with rich at race. They LAS VEGAS DOT com for his Santa Anita analysis and rich We'll talk next week. Stay Safe Yeah. Thank you Steve. You and Tina and the all your friends and family and surely all listeners out there Be SAFE everybody. The number one thing we need in life is our health and certainly this is a very time. We had to be concerned about staying healthy and You know hanging in their absolute. It's everybody everybody's got the their their personal environment to manage and keep secure and and especially if you've got elderly parents and relatives etcetera and young children. I mean it's it's this is a circumstance where personal responsibility of weighs heavily. We'll stay right here. And Have Chad checks. Nader join us from New Orleans Wish we were doing this face to face was supposed to be sitting in at fairgrounds right now but This'll be the next best thing. Jag Good Morning Steve. Morning the the concerns first of all there was. I'd say I don't know days ago when when fairgrounds drew the card it seemed like there was some uncertainty as to what was going to happen later in the week but The decision obviously to to run without patrons and it seems like this is hasn't run into any issues from that point on no issues yet. You know it was a little weird last. Friday is supposed to have the twilight racing and we heard all day long. It was going to be open to the public in about three o'clock in the afternoon. They said they're going to go ahead. And do twilight racing but may not going to let the public end but credential donors and staff publicity staff and those guys can and they did that through the weekend and It seemed to work fine. They took entries last couple of days for next week I think the sentiment was the beginning of this week. They just wanted to make sure they could follow the guidelines set forth other states and the government. Here that you know they could run meet Run this week with P. Without people and they did that Monday night or Tuesday night they got the okay Churchill said okay as long as the state says it's okay it's okay with us and So we know we go forward and now we got Derby caught on tap on Saturday and we're thankful that we have something on top that we can. We can raise your home and watch on Saturday out and this card came up just spectacular and even besides the stakes action and that includes three of the State Bread Louisiana bred stakes and then a handful what three maiden specials and one allowance so. It's an all steaks and you know all quality card start to finish culminating with the Louisiana Derby at a mile three six states and Jesse let's start with the tried too much. We can got about thirteen minutes. And we'll start with the feature and you know big full field of fourteen lot of familiar faces from the two divisions of the risen star Some thoughts about the Law Derby. Yeah very big field. You know marquess. He's GonNa have the tempest favorite. We think an enforceable and he went to this race last year with the favorite. You might remember. War of will was a huge favorite in this race and didn't get the job done. Enforceable won't be that big a favourite but certainly a horse. That's improving Steve. I don't think that this is a question you know on the podcast is we got so magazine. Online people were were really you know? Loan away or really loved his lacob and I just thought it was okay but I really liked has risen star. He finished second into that slow pace and came running and You know it was really closing very well. I don't think this is the problem for this source of biggest problem for him as he falls so far back in the first quarter mile into big feelings got navigate his way through and and don't get stopped and I think that's his biggest challenge to overcome in this race but certainly Big like this model three sixteenths. There's a lot of unknowns You know looking at a she said I think before The horse on the list not coming Farmington road mister big news. That doesn't scratch Brecca. Who's GONNA run him from the thirteen so he might draw into the field? I think You know we also have little change. We don't know who's writing your traffic yet because Lewis is coming here As of now maybe saffy Joseph who's riding but nobody seems to know who's going to be on. That horse is very interesting. Because they couldn't blinkers on him and he already has that natural speed. So you gotta think you know maybe a jockey. Would you know to tend to like the front end is going to jump on him and from what I hear? He's been training down in Florida with math wizard and They've been working together so I think you know. Southie the screws up in this horse and he's GonNa want the lead we know wells by he's GonNa want the lead bright galaxies and shy about that. He says he wants to break and go. So there's going to be basement forcible to run at more than I think. He got into risen star So you know and look I mean it could go a million ways? I think you'll see a lot of horses really starting to to slug their way down the lane at the end so you might look at a horse like enforceable major fat of her. You know you talk about him a little bit I didn't have much of the show this morning but Major Fed is a horse. We had traveling on the couple of weeks ago. The couple of days after he worked at bullets. I got a hundred and seven on February twenty ninth and Travis was framed. The race was three days away. He's been kicking down He. He's been kicking down the barn Mike del Berta says out of everybody in this race. He's training the best over the track. So he's a cold rapidly improving You know the one whole i. I think it's fine. He's not gonna be that far up. I don't think it'd be that far back either. And he you know maybe save some ground. He did a third different jockey on him and you know John. Rosario as talented as he is he had six months star day and didn't win anything here and I just thought he didn't give a Lotta horses really good day So he's not used to track but certainly a talented writer and can get it done So we'll see we'll see about major fed. I'm interested to see what his price is going to be. Because I think people know he's been working well here. I don't know if you get eight to one but in a big deal like this saying you might get eight to one ten to one on having he certainly be worth one to look for sure. I can report to you to that On that New York Traffic Question Joe Bravo has got the call for New York traffic. Good we have that we have out there now. I mean look the big feeling. Nothing sharecropper Mike put him twenty two one in the morning line. You really think it'd be twenty. Two one is a real based off. You know what he's done. Yeah I hear you but now the only junior was very high on him in December You got sick and had a little setback and You know Atlanta's kind of getting Imerese over the track here and and certainly go. The whole winter was was the Louisiana Derby He's worked well you know. I don't think he's burned up the track but certainly like Seattle stall junior do well. I don't know if he's really cranked up and you'd have to improve a lot. I think in the sponsor to compete with somebody just in very good form you know fourteen Horsfield and the Louisiana Derby to close out the tremendous card. Let's work our way. Backwards the oaks. I don't think there's much of a discussion to have hear anybody but finite would be a major surprise. Find here you know last year Serengeti after three to five. She bled. Didn't run didn't didn't run. Well she she bled and really that that. Help the exotics out. I looked at it last year. The pick five. The black will take five here last year. Eight nineteen thousand fifty cents and I think Paid a few thousand dollars to but you had well we'll go down there and getting empress went down in that sequence It's the same sequence this year the four stakes races with a turf sprint started so Obviously the if you do beat finite it's GonNa pay really well and the only other horse I'd give shot soon. There's obviously Bonnie south from Brad Cox was born You know this Philly defeated the Honeybee winner. She's a she's a devil the devil source honeybee last out and Technically she was still a maiden when she beat her because she came out of the. Oh Sarafina Race Joe. Scharf born got the bad test so she says second I the first place. Money there so Bonnie thousand proving she had a race over to track here and She's the only one I get kind of an upset Sanchez to maybe on a backup ticket. Throw Haram but finite certainly looks like a Free Square. Well and temperatures rising might be might be moving forward a little bit Dallas Stuart the Byron Philly for the stanleys But I agree. Bunny south is your you know if you play it this way you know as a safety. See when you build your tickets. Let's move backwards and talk about the the minis IRV immunity. I mean this is a great race. You know Any time you get graded stakes races on turf you. You're going to have some Chad Brown interests in here. And he he shifts to over here and still regard who was under Derby trial for a hot minute a couple of years ago and actually ran here. In the LACOB end arisen star For Holland door for at the time. Now Chad Brown's got him and fashioned him into a term for us and he looks. I'm GonNa Track your holiday morning. He he's grown up a whole bunch. He looks really really good On the track so I ran a garage him. The other Chet Brown was I didn't see Rosario jumps on him but he's coming off a long layoff the four rock emperor You know we're talking about this in a little bit but back there. This now has a track record here going Amman. As and he did that originally started with those with the Ryobi and down at zero He got loosened lead and he dug in and look. You've got a huge race but I think if you didn't have him on Risen Star Day at eight to one. I don't know if you want to go back on him. I think it'd be a little more pace in here for him to deal with on the front end so You know I just don't know if he's GonNa take them all away but certainly break actual bridge Mahan very dangerous. Synchrony was running at him. I thought synchrony ran a huge race last time out the second to him galloped out extremely well my birt seems to think the seven year old geldings doing as good or better than he than he was when he won this race. Two years ago so Maybe three to one him is a pipe dream of thinking about him down. I gotTA think of the big field like this. You'RE GONNA get all pre one. You've got to Chad. Browns and there you got to brecca courses in their the one dot matrix is going to get a good trip from the inside you gotta think with four hundred ru You know don't blame rockets. Really come on for norm. Cassie so channel maker ships in here. It's a bit. It's a good field. That's a really really good feel. Thirteen horses Synchrony gets his trip in if he's trained way we think he's stranding he's going to be really nothing here and he was the favorite nece raise last year to rub. Here's the second choice on bricks and mortar. I think he ran second or third but If you raise a good race for sure I think buying the sequence would maybe just a few. You don't have to really press the button here as well Synchrony and Channel Maker and the other Chad Rock Emperor. What's appealing about him is? He's first time four year olds wastes August since the Saratoga Derby and this is one of those circumstances where what you have now at at fours you know could be considerably different than what he left. The scene as a three year old. And I I'd like horses like this and He he may be. He's ten to one morning line and you know I don't know just the way. Chad gets bad He might come down a little bit but you know he's he's not going to be. He's not going to be less than not going to be less than five to one. I wouldn't think in check check. Xp TV DOT COM to because somebody's horses. You can find works on Shipping from Florida. And I find that very very helpful When going through these PD so if you WANNA look at. Somebody's works definitely GONNA ASK ME TV DOT COM and search their name and the worker. Pop-up up. Let's talk about The New Orleans Classic Talk To Thomas. After semmering getty empress's win and we brought up lone sailor and This field kind of a kind of a list of usual suspects to some degree Lot of horses were familiar with and I thought this came up kind of entertaining. It's a good deal Think breakout who has pocket here though I mean you got. He's got silver dust and by my standards Louisiana Derby winner from last year. He's GonNa say on older horses here for the first time You know he destroyed that allowance field last time. Here he loves this racetracks and training very very well coming out of his skin Is he good enough to be Nicole? The horses in here. Probably you know he's gotTa deal with Silver Dust who you know the stablemate who does nothing wrong here seems to always get a perfect trip Won The mineshaft last time you know the the knock on him is he's he's over six over four at Damani distance. It's not his ideal but the way he goes here he just he loves this racetrack and he's still in pretty good form so. I think you can't throw those horses out by any means you know gone at last time. A huge racier. He was getting the silver dust and he got the playing around in the lane. A little bit and couldn't run a straight line and You know he ran huge lasagna. That big number so maybe his form getting better and he's getting really good. That was a long card in here. That has got to be fearless. Seven or twenty. Five thousand dollars is going to be on the lead and you know. They'd gelded him. Before I start. Seven hundred twenty five thousand. That's gotTa hurt a little bit But they held him before I but he's one of those horses at pletcher. Has You know came along Laden. He's super too. And it's a big class hike but He's got a lot of natural early. Steed just don't know how far he's GonNa take it and you know nine to two. Is that what you get I? I don't know maybe so I think you've got to bed by my standards down But fearless is really the one. That's kind of what do you do with him? And the fact that you know the fact that pletcher comes here with him I I'd say that's a pretty good endorsement and he certainly seems to have gone forward since That allowance when I'm intrigued. You know he's a go sapper and out of the street crime air this groves very nice and he had no business when it first on six furlongs not to do and you know. He showed what he wanted to do. The second time I'll go round of ground so you know the ball and as here that long stretch You know maybe he turns the home and re breaks and makes it really hard for for silver dozen by my standards to come get him but It's a very interesting race and and run it on Saturday. Let's include the the Benson as well. You got the Tom Benson. That goes is the eighth and mile and a sixteenth on the grass for the phillies. In mayors. This very theory you know And just couldn't find anybody. I really liked in here You know dream passage. She's she goes from one hole that's probably thinks he's got going for. She's got some speed into one with the rail down. Should be good but this horse has twenty eight starts Stephen and hasn't won a stakes race. Yeah that's very little troubling unless you got the black type last time second into Jersey Lily but How T T of Chad Brown? Her style really really doesn't fit. The way to start is going to be playing. She's got come from out of it. So you know you WanNa take you know what's going to be probably a shorter prices. Seventy two aboard on her I was just going through. This field. Just couldn't funny buddy. I really love so you know these turf races going along especially if affiliate fairgrounds all meet has produced ridiculous prices and I I mean just ridiculous so regard even with that theme. I think I think we could see fireworks in this race. I I just. I don't like the two favorites is GonNa be up in here. You know maybe desert ride comes off the bench for new Howard. Her style doesn't fit either but she likes this course she won here. First Time Out She's kind of intriguing. Twelve the one and Not Not a product. Practice the five for any neely. I think in fine herself close to the pace to maybe she keeps going but I think price source in there is going to be the way to go. Price interests me and this is always. We got very familiar with When will Schwartz may line racing at Hatter and then Changed Hands in the fall. Sales and Has Gone on with Eddie and she. She's nice she's versatile too and I at one eight to one eight to one. I think nice the one third report at the main Special Way Mystic Guy Dolphin horse has been training really well. I I was nine to five. Got a whole bunch of trouble experience but really came running their DNA. I think That's worth stretching out tomorrow and Sixty S. I'm Mike System Different sticks quality written all over him so I think he he gets the job. Done tomorrow Chad everybody give everybody the Info to listen to you and Mike and here. The whole podcast. 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TimeformUS Pacecast - Episode 17 - May 21, 2019
"Hi everyone. Welcome to the may twenty first dish of the time pace cast this week on the podcast, we're going to recap freak the stakes which court the one by dwarf will going to discuss the trip situation from the Preakness the pace, how the track was played on Saturday, and how that might affect affected the race will also touch upon all important undercard stakes racist from both Saturday's Preakness day card, and Fridays black-eyed Susan Dey card net. The end of the show. We'll talk about stakes races that occurred at other venues around the country last weekend. I'm David Aragona time from US analyst, and I'll welcome in my co host Craig mccaskey Craig hadn't Preakness week treat you. It was good. I enjoyed it. Always good to see the recent back in my hometown. I don't know how much longer it'll be there. But, you know, not the greatest facility these days, but it still place I liken and spent many these at, in my younger years so have a soft spot for, for Pimlico end the pregnant. Yeah. I've attended a few says it was always one of my favorite triple crown races because it's just a nice day. It'd be the track. It is what it is. But it's a different vibe that I think both the derby in the Belmont, and I always found it to be a more enjoyable experience overall. I like Del Monte, of course. That's it's my backyard's my favorite triple crown race to attend. But Preakness days, it's a little bit of a different animal. It sure is an I had the opportunity opportunity to attend in different ways than I attended as a young teenager who knew very little about horse racing. So I've seen that side of it in. And then later, of course, I became a much bigger racing fan. So. I've seen both sides and I think both sides have a police at the Preakness. Yeah. For sure. We'll get into the race war of will, obviously was the winner getting some don't wanna call it revenge, but getting some redemption, I think from the Kentucky Derby given everything that transpired in the aftermath of that race Tyler Gaffney owned gave this horse, another absolutely perfect trip. You really gave him the trip that he was supposed to get in the derby added pay dividends, this time he just was the best on the day. Did he certainly didn't leave the rail? This time not. Did he have much toys last time? I have not tried to fault his right at, at all. But it was say another great ride. I went right up the rail. Win it opened up one fairly easily. You got a nice, one twenty two time form you as eat figure, which is about as good as we've seen on the triple crown trail this year and just a real solid effort. I hear he's going onto the Belmont, so I'm looking forward to see that and see who shows up against them. But good effort. It's kinda good to see a writer our gaffe Liam winner race like this kind of rough. Themself more into the national spotlight. Maybe get up among the elite riders that we say, yeah, he took a lot of unnecessary flack after the before I don't even wanna get into it 'cause it's cra-. I don't wanna give give airspace too crazy conspiracy theories, but he gave a perfect ride in this race. And he's just done. Well with this horse all along. I know the connections have always had a lot of faith in this horse, and he's really been rewarding them lately, and Mark kassy's, a guy who's really not afraid to run his worse, frequently when they're in good for me tends to get them out of the Barnum run the races rather than just letting them up. He's been doing that with war of will throughout the spring. He didn't hesitate to go onto the Kentucky Derby after that unfortunate mishap in the Louisiana derby. Add, it seems like war of will is just hitting his peak right now. I mean we haven't seen too many horses. Ascending above one twenty time from US beat figures throughout this prep season. So were will finally able to do that, then we'll see if the handles the Delmonte distance his pedigree, as we've talked about many times, four is one that really goes either way dot that warfront. On the top side, that really strong foundation of stamina breeding on the dams, I, but Sadler's Wells being as dam sire, so he's a horse that might be able to get the Belmont distance. I'm not gonna to write him off. And he's probably going to be the favorite in that race soon. He gets there. So it's just great to have him and the Belmont shaping up to be a fantastic race yet. Sure is I was kind of looking at the field yesterday. And we get some horses from the derby, who skipped the Preakness I think, were wills the only one that's actually going on from the Preakness last I saw, but definitely shapes up to be a solid field. A what's going to be a great guard? I mean we'll talk about some of the other races later on bell Monday. But I'm really looking forward to that yet ton great matchups that I'm looking forward to his well before we move on for more of will. And I think this is a good transition into the second place finisher ever fast. There was a little bit of talk about maybe they're being a rail by on Saturday at Pimlico when I think that talk really picked up after the Preakness when ever. Fast made that late run on the inside. I personally we'll talk about something to raise his later the podcast I didn't see a rail bias. I, I tried to pay attention to it throughout the middle of the day. Once that talks started to hear some of that talk. I went back and watched all the racist later, I thought horses that were racing outside outside the three path four path. They ran fine, whether it was on the far Turner in the strategy didn't seem like they were especially hindered. I know a lot of Witter's happened to be on the rail late. But it's not like they a lot of them were decisive winters. And I thought overall the track overall the track was very fair. Yeah. I agree with ya. I watched the racist dislike you dig live and watch bag on replay in actually did a little study of the speed figures. I looked at all the horses. It didn't really spend any time in the inside to AS during the race infirm, a speed figure perspective. They basically pretty much ran what was expected? So normally when there's a strong track by issue, don't really see that the most I could say about the rail as it wasn't a bad place to be obviously. But, but. I don't think it gave any special advantage of than the one it usually does of saving ground yet. That's a great point. I think people people often forget that, that the rail is the place to be, especially when you're coming into the strategy. Cya war of will was able to cut the corner in sort of get the jump on horses that were coming around is on the outside in that bunched field. And that did give him the advantage that eating on the rail normally does. I don't know what to say about ever fast. He's a horse that it was hard to make a case for coming into the race. And that's even being kind. I will say jewelries REO gave him as good ride, as you could possibly give log shot in a big race. Yeah. He did. I mean he was way back off pretty fast pace. We have code in red for for most the fractions annual. He just saved go of outta ground and Wednesday. Save all the ground because he actually moved off the rail for bid on the turn before duck in back in when he had nowhere else to go in getting up for second in. He's a horse that, that pretty much blew up my back in a rare move. I actually three horses the win in this race. So it turned out, just okay with a bet. The I learn fourth white senators, but I also box three in the exact in it was looking pretty good for me about, you know, furlong to go in. He just kind of blew it all out. But I think the only thing you can really say about a horse like him. It is. You have to respect the trainer like Dale, Rome. East proven knows what he's doing for him the put the horse in this race. I think that's the only way you could even remotely come up with this horse as the have faith in him that he found something between this and the pet. They mile where the horse that's really didn't show anything and he hasn't shown anything. Anything really since I think it was the Holy Bull states when he rents second, though, yet to go back away to see the town when it was there. And whatever he did to get this horse back on track at salt the him because I couldn't find it yet del Roman. Just one of those guys like della steward, who's not afraid to take a shot in these big races. And we've seen some kind of wacky runner up performances in the Preakness over the years. I remember there was a horse whose name for getting out, I was coming off a made win second to American pharaoh in this race in number of years back. So we have seen that happen before I don't think it's some sort of combination of the quality of his field because ever fast was really the only outlier among the top four horses. All the others said, sort of run this well past, but. Like you were saying Dell robots, obviously, saw something to get this horse ready for this race. In had a reason to run them. Any he validated that faith in the horse own Dale? I think is the horse that some people are rightly saying could have done a little better in this race with inside trip, though. I don't wanna knock Laurent through. I think he just kind of play the hand that was delta him riding closer race that features a little bit of speed and a bunch field. Did we had to do to get the horse rolling around the far turn is not some with a strong turn of foot? So we had to come a little wide off the far turn. I don't think he did anything wrong. I think just the nature of the way the race on folded caused him to save a little bit less ground than the winner. But he proved that he's a nice horse Lexington figure was legitimate legitimate. Yeah. He did mean I had some questions about that one myself. I kind of popped up out of nowhere for him but he certainly backed it up. I didn't have any problems with the ride. I mean, he, he say this much ground as could around both earns early before finally just kinda head to go out make his run in a maybe a weight. So little longer gets. Through inside. But really, you don't lose a whole outer ground by swinging out once you're in the spread so I don't have any problem with it. The horse ran will you know, as it warriors storage also from Nebraska Cox born, I think the top four were clearly the best in here in ran the best races. And just kinda circumstances. They where they finished boarders charges in it and exciting for us because he's a little bit more lightly raced in some of the others, he's had a few more starts, but it took them awhile to sort of figure out who he was what his identity was a racehorse and he reeled off a couple of wins coming into this race. And he really is the one that I think, validated that he belongs here, and in some ways, had the most approve of all of these horses, because he was making his stakes debut in this Preakness. But I, he earned the same time from the speakers the winner, I believe, at one twenty two because he was the one that was setting that fast paced. He was on the rail the entire way. But I thought he ran a really nice race here. I just wonder where they're gonna go from him with him to for his next race because I'm not sure he really wanted to go to my own three six. Paints distance most sure he wants to turn back to seven races. I know there are few lucrative spots that they've got sort of decide where he belongs. Yeah, I saw Indiana derby mentioned with him. You know who who's, who's the no it, they certainly have nice person? But I think he's a little better horse in that. The, the ownership groups proven their ambitious. They supplemented into this race. I think wound up cost a few dollars, I think you need to run better the make make a profit. But you know, they put IPE clearly proved a belongs with the top three year olds, he was only beaten two and a half Lance after setting that fast paced. I'm with you, though. I'm not sure he'd ever be one that I'd wanted a mile in eighth in a mile and a quarter against these guys. So maybe that it's the spot the go holy the stable at the those. As for the others. I don't know if there are too many other horses, we really should discuss improbable just disappointed. Once again, his derby, performance, you really couldn't. Oh, it to the sloppy track because he ran basically the same race in this on a fast track just seems like he hasn't really gone on. And he ran that big figure at the end of his two year old season. Looked like he might be coming back or he might be improving on his top form at the beginning of this year, but it just hasn't really occurred in his last three starts now. And he's also been a bit of a head case he gave all kind of problems at the gate again. A not quite like didn't Arkansas. But, you know, he was just a little too keyed up for me. And I didn't particularly care for many way in them once I saw that. I just didn't think much of a met all. Yeah, that's, that's basically at the others. They couldn't quite hang with these some of them, like, like warriors charge also things to prove in. I couldn't really step up. Another twist to fade always mining. They just Warren, quite in the same league of these horses. Obviously lost Bodey express at the start. He may be affected the situation a little bit by not being part of the race. Although they did go still did go fast up front. I don't throw any of the words as you wanted to mention, but I felt like overall this was this where the trip. Most got good trips. There wasn't a whole lot to say, I think what you see is what you get the only horse said mentioned, I think win win win clearly needs a cutback in this dense which which seems odd for a horse that comes from far back as he does. But, you know you get that sometimes I think he's a closing. Sprinter, I think were settled pry be overlooked, this Preakness is another twist of fate who actually had a pretty tough trip doing up on that fast pace, while why Iran around the first earn. So he's one. I mean, maybe he's had a great one type or you know where to look at for the big races. But I think. Will rebound with a solid effort? That's true by always look for a better intesting that fast pace while wide around the first or. Yeah, I tried to make a case for him in this race, I thought he'd be value when he, he wasn't value because he didn't run well, but he was a bigger price. I did finally come around after kind of being skeptical. Famously regard realized that he is a pretty good horse. I do still wish they'd finally give him his chance on the turf because he's just has destroyed Ganic pedigree on the damn side. He's a son of scat. Daddy. He really looks like a turf moving course when he runs over that synthetic dragged Golden Gate a race. The Belmont, derby invitationals gonna be too soon for him or if they needed to take a step back at this point after a hard series of races. But at some point, I hope they give this chance on the turf because I really think you might be able to excel on that surface in the future. We'll go back to some earlier races on Pimlico Saturday card and discuss slot of the undercard stakes the biggest name horse. I participated on the undercard was Catholic boy in the Dixie the race that those run right before the Preakness. He got back on track in this race. It wasn't the strongest field for a great to turf race. But he did what he had to do in return. Danny ran one twenty time formula speed figure, which I think is career best horse with his big reputation won the Travers. He's never run up, particularly fast race in only ran a one eight in winning the Travers raising, of course he won. I think it was the Belmont, derby won a couple of big races. Inner so solid Horsa. I'm not sure what the make of him. I've read the plans. Are they kinda are going to try some races on both surfaces? This year may be bounce back and forth go, where the money is. So, so he's won the follow. I'm not sure I'm gonna jump on the wagon with him yet. I'm going to have to see a little more from a speed figure. Effective. I think that's fair. He really does have to prove that he can hang with these horses, the top level in some of these dirt races, especially because his speed takers are sort of a couple of horses like let's say MacKenzie, who's performing at a high level end is, but considered by many to be the leader of that division. I think the key was Catholic boy though is that he really wants to go farther than the mile on the sixteenth distance, but he got to work with on Saturday. His two big wins on the turf in the dirt last year. Both chief that a mile and a quarter and I heard Jonathan Thomas after the race that they really chose this race just sort of a stepping stone to get to longer races. And they do believe that stamina is his greatest asset add when he could be forwardly placed as he wasn't the Travers. He wasn't a dumb on derby. A it can be really effective in those raises because Thomas was saying that they sort of made a mistake with him early in his career by thinking that he had to be a late running closer and they had to take away off the pace in races, like the Florida derby, and he's been much more effective. When used his early speed and put him up close to the pace at it can sort of. Winedown down fields in the stretch. He didn't as Dixie a I'll be interested to see which Mylanta quarter races. They choose I know there is the suburban in July of almond. There's Manhattan, which is coming up very soon at on day. So I think they have some choices in terms of distance and surface in Catholic boy, does give connections, a lot of choices. So I'm just interested to see what kind of campaign, they map out for this horse. Yeah. That's a good point. Actually did go back. He ran a one twenty five on the turf in the nine ridge last year. So he has run faster on the turf five back those two races in a row, worry kind of repay, analyze. It really showed is grit. Nets good point about the distance mile and a sixteenth is probably not, not his best than I'm going to come across his mocking the horse because I'm not at all you want a good race for from this've this contagious host. He was able to use his early speed position in take good advantage of it. I'm just looking for the run a little faster. You know gets eighty like you said this wasn't the. Westfield is is chief competition really didn't show up inspector Linley. So he wasn't beating a whole odd year. But he think look good doing it. Yeah. I was disappointed by inspector Linley performance. He's a horse that usually always shows up racist at this level. And for whatever reason he just really didn't put forth his effort in this in this race, the one of the horse out of this race that I do want to mention is the runner up admission office. He's a horse stat had started out. Chad Brown's bar now with Brian land. She's said of a lightly raced four-year-old runner. That's pretty green throughout his career as needed a little bit a need some needed some racing to just figure things out. I really liked his effort of near because this was not a race that featured a lot of forces baking big runs from the back of the pack. It wasn't a fast pace situation by any means or slow pace. I thought admission office with running a little bit faster than the others at the end of the race and deserve. Dimension. Yeah. He certainly did he jumped up big time on time for you at speed figures to get second. He was a horse at gun overbooked. His you know, he hadn't run particularly fast. But he certainly ran well for Br. Ryan Lynch, you know, in this said it wasn't like it was a big flow for horses coming from behind. He was certainly one move him best late. The other turf race for the older horses on Pimlico Saturday card was the gallery at for the Phillies which when is race ten couple races before the Dixie, and we saw Mitchell road in a very consistent lightly raced. Billy for Bill Motte get her fourth consecutive victory. I believe she's now, five for seven lifetime. Or only two losses of in second place, finishes. She's just on the up. She keeps improving with every start. And she took her game to the next level in this dollar at yes, since she came back from inner, she kind of eat off it in spring of her three-year-old year. And she's come back in just been a four. She, she shown speech has been able to raid off the pace, she's been able to do it on the and ino- she'd finally, she ran rarely fast doing it. She had a lead, but she was setting a really fast. Eva her final time figure one eighteen was bumped up to a one twenty two because of it in this one. This one is easiest could be I again, this was at the strongest field you'll intend to get. The, the racist aren't as strong at Pimlico the undercard races, as they are at Belmont and Churchill but it was a solid effort. And I think she proved she's going to be a real player in division. She showed she can sit just off the pace in wind. She doesn't have to have the lead. But this was an impressive performance. The my I it turns out that Russia was coming out of the stall memorial at fair grabs has been pretty key race because we saw over call come out of that race to win the Churchill Downs. Dis- mile couple of weeks ago, a nominal road who won that race and beep over. Call came back in one this gallery, I agree she it wasn't a strongest field. And her main competition was probably flexibility. And she didn't show up whatsoever in this race. But additional, I mean, rather Mitchell road still looked really good doing it. She just watching the race steamed to be in-command throughout. She never looked like a loser, despite setting some mildly fast, fractions, she really kicked on. Well in the land, I wonderful take a shot in the race like the Justice game on Belmont day come back in three weeks. A shot a bit of a layoff. Going into this race I wouldn't be surprised if not rendered back again quickly. But I think she's earned a shot to take a try her hand to get some tougher horses after race like this because she just looked so good doing it. Yes, she sure Dan may like said, she always says that advantages speed she'll surely, if he tries that run the some of the trip, Chad Brown contingent, but, you know, his sources don't always show. A whole bunch of speedy has the one Philly whose names escape. But may now who likes the upfront? So it just depends who shows up against, but I'd certainly give her a shot in a race like the just the game and no matter what she does for the rest of her career. She's going to have plenty of value as broodmare because she is the half sister took country house. The other turf race for older horses that I kind of forgot about is the searching stakes which was run early round the card, which is won by achey Maggio. We have a lot of time on this race. It was pretty uncompetitive going in key Masha was a huge favourite, and she just never looked like loser at any point. No, she didn't it didn't even look anybody tried to beat her. The only thing I really have to, to note in here is that we won't have as figures for this race 'cause they don't normally run a mile and a half on the turf at Amoco. I really don't have any baseline didn't look like an overlay taxing base or anything when you when you watch the race in the fractions to the role. I didn't look like anything special. So, you know, at her one eighteen is based on final time. It's pretty much what she runs for the most part right in that rain. So bet a whole episode about this, when she did what she had to do at about a hit yet. Just looking at her PP's. It's fascinating to see how much the addition of lace. Six has really improved her wreck believe Roger rat fields, her trainer applied lace think in her first start of this year, and she's made four starts on it now. And she's just been a completely different mayor since they made that switch, it's really made the difference on, she's now real two wins in a row, not strongest effort or field this time. But I'm sure she'll be on some bigger challenges in the future. We'll move to the three year olds who also participated in turf stakes on Saturday in the James w Murphy Graham oceans English. Be got the job done here overcoming a bit of a slow pace. This force would finish behind digital age with a bit of a tough trip in his prior started. Tampa Bay downs to the big step forward getting the right trip in this James Murphy. Yeah, he sure did he jumped up big time in time formula speed figures with a one fourteen. I kind of had to do a double take when I saw that. But it was earned. There were other races at the distance as you said he you know, he ran. Well, he said. The piece was slow in here. We have the fractions coated in blue, but he found himself up much kosher. In better position that take advantage when it got to the lane. And you know he had a clear trip at any finished really strong. Yes. I think it's a it's an interesting question speaker makers how you handle races. Like the one he was coming out of a Tampa Bay downs that, that was the Columbia stakes digital age one and digital age of the horse that was coming along slowly. He had front pretty slow with trip in his debut. He came back in that Columbia, stakes didn't run a particularly fast race. But looked really good doing it at now a few horses come back at the race in really improve their speed figures, including digital age. But these are three roles and sometimes they do, just take really massive steps forward, after a couple of starts that probably was the case with digital age it might be the case with English as well. Yeah. In the point you made about his trip as well. I mean we gave a ninety five last time. But if you do watch trip eve, they'd have plenty of trouble in there. So I mean that easily could have been a one. Oh, five. So sometimes. Jumps look a little bit better than or bigger than what they are in reality. Yeah. Totally agree with that good ever from the second place finish. Real news stretching out, in distance, really was with the flow of this race setting that pretty moderate pace upfront, the horse that probably was most hindered, by the pace was current was way back row in made a rod the end, but he was a short price in this is just starting to how good kerm. I don't think he's all that. He ran okay in here and he was against it. But, you know, he's not a horse that I'd be lining up the bed against next time just because of this trip because he hasn't shown me all that much to begin with, you know decent enough I but I don't think we're going to see him in the better class races in the division. The I'd agree with that moving back together, dirt steaks on Saturday, Publico. We saw the Maryland sprint go as the race after the chains Murphy, which was won by New York central this was a pretty competitive race on paper bunch of horses that we're looking to really. Themselves in graded stakes company, and New York central I got a great ride from Ricardo Santana junior. Just staying on the rail throughout from his inside post position got Lou at the top of the stretch of like war wilted in the Preakness and just to be a little bit better than this group. Yeah. He did. He got a one eighteen time formula speed figure for the effort of people. Remember from our show, a talked about Louis field coming out of his last race. He's a really perplexing horse. When knows Maryland-breds kind of run against other they always seem to run fast figures. But whenever they, they move in the different company, face shippers. They just never seen the back it up. So despite the fact he was due to one in here. Hopefully, the people who listened to his bed. Who can note that they knew he was not one. I was interested in against his group each failed twice in this race at short prices. I thought pro forma ran okay. You know it's decent race. It was maybe great three level. But you know that's what we get on the Preakness art. It was a good solid betting race. But the crown got this, right. Is they were all over New York central yet. He's a lot more money than I anticipated. He did really tip. His hand hit improved in his prior start in the Commonwealth and I believe he was stiffed against decent field there. And he ran back to that improved form in Maryland sprint yet, I wanted to bring it up with Lewis field. He's kind of funny horsey runs those really Godley speed figures. He just I don't know if it's the class. I don't know if it's the move away from laurel, because it really does seem to run watt of his best races at laurel, but he just can't make it happened against these top level or even moderate level graded stakes horses just kind of a disappointment throughout his career trying to do that. Yeah. I agree, proformer ran, well to me. Unless you think forma was the rightful winner of this race. I think proforma one of the forces, you can point to, to say that horse ran fine with three to four wide trip because he was jibbidy that wide around the far turn into into the stretch. I thought he finished up. Fine ran his typical raise and he's a horse handles dirt enter, so his connections, always have plenty of options with him. Just a solid grade three level race in some decent performances by the top two finishers, yet by agree with that not much else to head for the three year olds who saw the chick Lang run at the same distance on Saturday. This race was perhaps, not quite at the same level. This was a bit of a slower six long race. And we saw decent upset with Lexa Tony getting the job done at nineteen to one. He had run a vastly improve speed figure in his prior started Churchill, but that didn't get anything that day and that was just an allowance race. So he was kinda Nord on the tote board in this spot. He's another one that got a great trip. And I think that made the difference in his victory. Yeah. This was a race it on paper look like it was gonna be speed dole. When? You have now. Payee's gladiator, king even some of the newer, runners, like pyro on, but Cuddy ater kings always going to be up there on front. The pace figures in really bear it out. But it was still a pressure base. And I think it kinda set up for exit Tonia who just saved all the ground when those too tired, you know, he was able to take advantage. Come up the rail only got a one, oh, six time for US figure this race that would even lower than he would. He got you've got a one ten at Churchill when he got ran fifth. So it just shows sometimes you don't always run as well as thank you can win with the right trip. You don't have to run your best race yet at really true in gladiator king. I don't know if he read his best race either, but he finished second. Here he was doing to live throughout. He was really the survivor of pace situation now that they were going exceptionally fast up from mouthpiece. He was dealing with did really fate at the end of this race. Even after riding the rail at gladiator king finished up east Linda's racy put in his usual. Game performance. It's just amazing to me, how consistent gladiator king has become since they started running him in the right, racism. We often see that with horses and they've really put him to a rigorous schedule of raising. He just keeps showing up because they've been running him at the right distance. Yeah, he is speed figures have been about the same ever since they did that runs in the low one ten one thirteen range in just always puts forth a solid effort. He did have that, that day were they scratched him think it was like England where they were going to put him back on turf. But I think he's worried belongs going short on third is probably sprint in win some races, if they keep them there and hopefully they do. Yeah, I totally agree with that the final stakes. Rachel mentioned him Saturday was the Barton, which was run earlier in the day accidentally referred to this as an allowance for you the rundown for today's podcast, but king for a day did get a stakes victory here would assert Barton with a pretty respectable speed figure of one eighteen he was heavy favorite. But I thought he looked pretty good doing it. Yeah he did. I. She had to watch his race on replay. I was working on something at the time in, even though I had the TV on I just didn't pay any attention because it didn't look like much of a betting race. But yet, he certainly ran. Well, we hadn't been seen since running Churchill was a two year old obviously had some issues, but the comeback with a one time form. US speed figure I start off the bench. He will get the mea n s at the runner up. I thought the runner up around pretty well as well when tone broke. Yeah, I thought so too watching the race. It really did change right after the start. When the horse that appeared to be increased as main rival top line growth, just broke about a half length, slowly, John Velazquez, just immediately shut the door worsen patiently pushed out the back of the pack, which can Adam break. Slowly, you can't always hold your position. And that really did make king for a day's job. A little bit easier because he just had three seemingly overmatched rivals to beat at that point, the runner up, ran fine running, watching the horses run through the strategy just really seemed to be like take for day was. The only worse that was really finishing the seemed like they were picking up pieces. I'm kinda tired. Speakers, don't totally jive with that. Because the it did come back a respectable Denver for king for a day. He seemed like a good horse last year. I guess he's got some potential to move forward this win. He looked. He looks like a horse for pleasure, just has to step up into it again some company next time. Yeah, it'd be curious to see where he shows up, maybe the Dwyer something like that. I can't imagine they would rush on the something like the Belmont. So not, I'm sure they'll take take their time with them. But he's shown some talent showed some fan on his two year old. So I'll be looking for him in the end. Will turn back the clock to Friday's card Pimlico and get to some of the bigger graded stakes races will discuss the most talked about race from Friday that was co Beth's performance in the miss Preakness. I know this was one that how a lot of people doing double takes after the race. Because we've watched a lot of racist from Pimlott over the year in when you're when you're seeing these six furlong races to things that you kinda have ingrained into your that horses never one faster than one, oh, nine flat. And they certainly don't run much faster than about twenty two and three for the opening quarter mile Kofi did both of those things. Just looked like an absolute beast in this race. I don't know what else to say. She just was I mean this performance, she's one of the best pitchers in the country. Yeah. This was impressive. Immediately flags went up. You know, people were right into me on Twitter saying, you know, you need to check this out. We don't believe the time. And, you know, at first glance when I saw it, I didn't believe it either. So, but I time the reysen it was fine. The fractions were fine. The one caveat I would give it is. I think that the track definitely got faster starting with this rates on it was very fast track already on of people, including myself, originally were comparing it to the prior rates for the older fillies mayors. And I just don't think that very good comparison because there was a real clear change tracks, eat in it doesn't detract from the source at all ran one twenty seven time for US eat figure, which is you for for this time of year. I remember on a oaks. They believe it was definitely derby weekend, when break even ran a one twenty and I kinda was was she, she was the most impressive horse on the weekends of me and same thing here, even more. So. Fethi just ran off the screen and super impressive performance, yet both of those Phillies are actually Brad Cox's Barnes. He really has a loaded hand moving forward to some of the top graded stakes races for the three year old fillies into the summer like the racist. Saratoga the test in the prior. Where is soon, both of these Phillies will be for spots like that co Efi's performance, what amazed me that she ran faster early, and she ran fast late, as well coming to stretch just look like she re broke, as if it was a slow pace upfront. Her final eighths mile running eleven point five, eight seconds. In eleven point six nine seconds is not like she was even slowing down at the end. She was really running through the wire. Just to a really nice performance. You almost wonder where came from because I always thought she looked like a, a nice precocious Philly, but I was not really thinking she this kind of performance inner, but it was just her fourth career start, and whatever she put forth and I do want to give some credit to the runner up as well. Pleased, flatter me because she's a really nice Philly in her own right? And if not for co theft, we'd probably be talking about the impressive. One thirteen time from to speak figure that she put forth and not to mention she would have broke the track record as well. She was beaten eight and a half lengths and still would have broken the one oh nine I wouldn't have been by much, but she would've cracked it in, you know, that's just flabbergasting that a couple of three year old Phillies burqa attract record that, that is stood for. So, you know, attract it's been running for so long Emiko wacko. It does give credence to how fast track was, but doesn't detract from the efforts at a both ran very fast this fight the track. Yeah, I kinda touch upon that because the, the track did see. Him. Almost unbelievably fast on Friday. I think I was a little faster on Friday than Saturday. But even some of the times in the route races which are going to talk about a little bit where we had some all mediocre horses nearly breaking track records. You just don't often see that on big race days where the track is so fast that these records are just falling left and right. And I can't remember ever being nearly fast. No, especially for Pimlico. I mean, they've never it's never really had the reputation for fast times forgiving, this six races, which don't have any run up and restrict versus enroll unusual. The routes never, you know, never really been one of the ones that get really fast rawal figures when I sit down the make the hind formulas figures when I used to do it on my own years ago. But they certainly did on Friday in to a slightly lesser extent. Saturday, though, it was so fast BRAC, you know, just unusual for Pimlico natural. If that was intentional or by design. Fine. But certainly didn't didn't hurt the effort here by copay. Yeah, I agree with that. We'll discuss those three robberies, we're referencing beginning with the black eyed. Susan sticking with the three year old Phillies. This was not the strongest black eyed Susan ever seed. And I agreed to raise probably barely in merits that kind of rating. But point of honor the winner, I do think that she is a great to horse for self because she was much the best in this race. I know Shelly won by half a length. But when you watch this race, she just lost so much ground around both turns. I mean, if you think there was a rail bios on Friday and Saturday. You think the world of this horse, because she just never saved any ground whatsoever, and was just a lot better than these horses. Even though she'll be one by half length. Yes, she was she. She came out of a race said that I rated surprisingly strong when I said them do the figures Gulfstream Park oaks. She ran pretty well that data be beaten only to win on a track that we had as, as pretty speed favor. Garing. Chairman well is just that she was much the best Shing off the lot of ground. She didn't fool anybody should get the windows but solid effort on not knock against her at all in. I agree with you. I think she was probably a lot stronger than or figure indicates I actually have the first three horses. All get one eleven. But if they were to meet up again, I would favor her for the other two in a second, yet because cookie dough really had things roadway up front. The third place finisher. You Lali got just awesome ride from Drovers REO saving ground all the way around. She got through on the inside of the top of the stretch. She really no excuse to lose that she was just not nearly as good as point of honor in this race point of honor is, of course, that I actually I was really hoping, she might have drawn into the Kentucky oaks because I thought it would have been interesting longshot Matt race. Offer effort at Gulfstream Park time before because I thought she rather sneaky, good race that day in the Gulfstream Park oaks. She kinda just gotten uncomfortable tripping down inside to weep through traffic and she really is worse that wants to go these mile eighth. Distances wants to sort of wind up outside of horses, and make that sustained run at checkout to do that miss race. I'll be interested to see where they go with her from here. I don't think she's the kind of work. You wanna see a raise like the gate corn? I hope that they target races at Saratoga, like the coaching club like the Alabama, I think races like that, especially the Mylanta quarter, Alabama are really gonna be right up rally, yet you could almost hardy she ran coastal a mile and a quarter year. The only other horse, I wanna mention his Brill, I still, like, bro. I just think she'd she'd desperately needs a turn back. I think if she got back the seven furlongs that would probably hit her right between the eyes in be a horse. I'd be interested in but enough with the two terms in my opinion. Let's get this or sprinting and see what you can do. Yes, he read my term Mason, Oaklawn against of that. Phileas. Name's escaping me now for athletes rights may may stretched out off of that older lady. Yes. Yes. She she had run. Some speakers going short or so I totally agree with you on that the races. Occurred right before the Preakness are sorry, not the Preakness, the black eyed Susan was the Pimlico special for the older horses. I'm saying Preakness because it was changed from the Preakness distance of mile and three sixteenths two mile and a quarter for this year. I don't remember if this specific race had been a mile and a quarter in the past. But I know you were saying they have run a mile and a quarter races at Pimlico before. But I think that was all years ago. It's been a long time since they've run a race at this distance and this race was, I guess, fascinating to watch from trip perspective as terms of the performances of the horses. I'm not really sure how they fitted to the older horse division, or if they're really any main players, because just wasn't really visually impressive or fast race. No, it wasn't that the winner in the second place finisher got one fourteen look like a Campbell. Recharge coming down the stretch. Unfortunately, because they have a run this distance in a really long time at Pimlico dancer question, I don't think that the specials ever been a mile and gorge. Not my lifetime anyway. I don't have any pace figures for this race. I it said because I think it would probably be pretty fascinating in here, looking at the flow, it clearly had a very late flow to it all the horses that were in the top three came from. Well back. So when I have some time this week, I'm going to try to dig back for my archives and find some of these Mona quarter races. In what I can come up with 'cause it's a race I really would like to have a figures for. I think it would add some perspective, I would probably add a few points of these horses figures, but that's it. I still don't think we're looking at a very strong group. But Greek three at best year in just nothing blown away with it was a kind of rates. When you watch it, you get the impression at the finish. It was a slow rate sent a numbers back that up. Well, you only see this horses running through stretches like one, big blob with nobody separated themselves from the others that usually does signify slow race. I did wonder. What they did for the opening quarter in this race. And I it sort of seemed like one of those races public aware. There must have been very little run up because the opening quarter seemed a lot slower compared to the other dirt route races on the card. But the pace of this race just from visual perspective watching, it seemed like it was faster. So I'm wondering if there was just no run up for that rate this race. And that's why the opening quarter was a little bit slower. But I'm sure that's something that you'll look into if you do a little more work on this race. Yeah. Runup is very slow. There said, there's it's just like the six furlongs nowhere else to put the gate. I'm trying to remain fry member, right? The Mylanta quarter races that they have run that I remember were all off the earth races. When they used to run a lot bought more days at Pimlico said it would art a mile and a quarter or phrases in when it rained, it would come off and run on dirt. They gate goes right up at the end of the shoot, so I don't remember what it said, Dr but it can't be more than a few feet of run up with before von from this race. I just want to quickly mention the ride that Ricardo Santana junior gave tenfold. If you go back and watch this replay really focus on tenfold throughout the race because it's hard to ride a horse better than than this guy did in this race. I beat he made holes where there really weren't holes to be made came through some really tight spots, and I don't even surprise announcer. Dave Robin by coming through, at the top of the stretch because it looked like he was going to be in real trouble. Just running a bunch of tiring orces coming to the quarter pole, and somehow Santana found all the right seems got through and just a really nice ride and was able to capitalize on a horse ready to run a good race from a difficult position. Yeah. He's the guy that's really making a name for himself. He's, you know, I'm not a guy that pays a whole bunch of attention jockeys, but I really couldn't help. But notice him at Oakland this year, obviously rides for Steve s missing. So you know he's gonna get a lot of quality mounts, but he certainly taken advantage of it. If he wasn't he wouldn't be even them in and he's popped out a really good ride tear lately, in some big races. So I expect some bigger things coming from him. Yet, could you say that 'cause I've seen, I've had the same impression on nothing. But good things in recent starts the other route race on Friday at Pimlico was the DuPont distaff. This was the female counterpart co special going mile dates for the Phillies in mayors. If the Pimlico special wasn't a strong race this race kind of falls into that same category was agreed three event. But a lot of these words aren't really quite at the graded stakes level. I think my lady curl in the winter was actually making her stakes debut in this spot. She put forth, good battle with golden award to the wire. It was exciting race to watch, but the winner Miloti really dictate everything own up on the front end. Yes, she did. One twelve time for US for this race battle and heads off. The Louis says, I took a horse who probably didn't project the beyond the lead in, but you know as rates with very little speed on paper, he was aggressive. He took her to the front was able to set a very moderate pace. We have all the fractions Oded in blue in that gave her just enough left to hold on the stretch and win by no so anything. I'd say he won much of the horse is the really heads up early with that, and runner-up out again. Leo award. I've made the right decision. This race to get her a little more for plays. I think he made the mistake of taking too far back in the double dog dare prior started Keeneland, but she's really wanna be placed these two both down the racism, they just are what they are. They're their grade three level horses. At best, and I think they might have some trouble if they try to step up in class in the future, the one of their stakes rateable discuss from Friday. Chemical card is the Jim McKay turf sprint this horse. I kinda forgotten about, I was going back and looking at us be peace. And I remembered, we discussed them a little bit on a previous podcast out the winner complicated pass. He's a horse that had made his turf debut at loro in his prior start in the king t- leather, leather, bery stakes. He was second day at a gigantic price. I remember had gone back and looked up just to see before speaking turf debut at any pedigree for the surface because I always kinda wanna make myself crazy fake. No. Should I bet this worse? That fed great. This is one that had absolutely Notre pedigree. But it turns out he's a pretty decent trip sprinter. Yeah. He's a horse who really turned a corner when a moved to the. Barna caught at cloudy Ogunsanya as he went from, you know, he could barely crack ninety speed figure. Suddenly he, he has run under one fifteen in four starts in the new barn. So I don't know what he's found. But he's been fast on now. He's been fast on turf. I was kinda early in the stretch. I look like he was running sideways the hallway through the lane, but he was so much better knees. It, it didn't seem to matter. He was able to hold on a not even hold on one fairly easily in. He was six to five in the race. So nobody was old. But good effort, you don't see many Indiana breads with this kind of speed figures. He may be the fastest one I've ever seen this off the top of my head curious where he shows up next Zeke run on third on earth in Aachen, these one twenties. I got a one six noon on Friday may be part of that was due to running sideways. I'm sure but hopefully they get them straightened out in and he could be a factor. He certainly has the speed to be. Good against anyone. Yeah. He was part of a pretty fast opening quarter mile in this race. So it seemed like just getting a little leg weary lay. It's heat like you were saying he was on the wrong league for the stretch run. He was also wearing those front wraps on the turf which you don't often see intersted races. So not the prettiest mover, not the prettiest horse to watch, but he's pretty fast. And like you said, I'll be interested to see where he goes next. That was all the racing from Pimlico last weekend. We'll touch upon some stakes races took place at other venues as we wrap up the podcast this week, beginning with the Louisville handicap from Churchill Downs. It's a mile and a half race for the older is on the turf some lower level graded stakes worse is in his a slam. Got the job done here, just kind of Lulling this field asleep on the fraud and really never gave him a chance from the quarter pole because it just turned into a sprint to the wire. Yeah, this is I believe the only race. I bet outside of Pimlico in Saturday, and I bet Nessie a horse we had talked about on a previous podcast. And you know, I just think he was up against it with the pace, I think he ran well at I don't regret. The bet went the winner, just had it always own way, we have the fractions all coated in blue. It was a glacial piece for this class, but you know, he won easy enough. Got a one twenty time for MU as figure as the runner up. Nessie Enda fourth-place finish or go, both got one twenty Twenty-one which kinda is because of at slow pace, we're talking about so no regrets on times racist. Don't go your way. But Nestle's the one I'd still want. Have it here. I'm sticking with my thesis on Nessie, which is that it was the turn back distance that really got him to wake up at allowance race at KEMA last time. And maybe he wants to go a little bit short in the mile and a half these days because these mile averages just often turn into these payslip situations in it really does work against like Nessie just going to keep getting in the wrong trips in these sorts of races. Because he's got that one run closing style as for his a slam. He had run deceptively well in his prior start in the elk horn. Quesnel. And that was a much tougher field. And he was one of the horse to survive the pace of that race. So he made sense in this race. He was pretty short price so much, anything clever, the runner up shar rose. I thought he arguably could have won this race. If his writer, Chris Landeros had sort of kept him in that spot just behind his slam on the backstretch whereas instead he gave up position at that point in the race than had to go around towards the top of the stretch. Maybe that cost him the victory all these, though, they ran pretty well. It was just sort of a blanket finish at the end. Yeah. One thing you see what Tisza slam as last three races. Looking at our chart eastward, one twenty one twenty one in one twenty the really consistent horse, but is this shows the strength of the fields in the trips with those figures? He's finished six or thin in I in basically races of similar quality. I won't said the others were a little bit tougher but they was more effector trickier in. He always runs the same race as has to get the rip in may be a week or competition. Yep. For sure. Somewhat weaker spot out. We'll move down to Florida and check out the major state alstreet last weekend. That was the musical romance, which is local prep for the Princess Rooney on that summit of speed, carved out of Florida last winner of the Princess Rooney, some stormy embrace. She won this prep race. Did it price of late in the way she did it last year? She also took down, the, the musical romance, Prentice really double in twenty eighteen but this performance, one of the best of her career she won nineteen time from your speed figure in visually impressive performance to watch anytime you win a seven furlong race. I believe it was by ten Lenz, you're doing some serious running. It was pretty sure it was the best of array of career by a few points as she look good doing admit it was a race. I didn't see you. I wasn't really paying attention the Gulfstream when you put it out in the rundown for today, I had to go and watch it. You know it was super good. I really fast rates. One nineteen not quite Kofi level. I'm not sure he's going to be able to get this kind of trip against better competition, but she really good curious where we're going to go with her. Yeah, I'm sure it's going to be onto the Princess Rooney and she'll probably be pretty Ford in that race, depending on who comes forward. I'm not sure if she's a horse that can take her format side of Florida. We'll see if she's able to do about because this was the best performance of her career both stick with the sprinters on the dirt didn't go to Santa, Anita to see the last Barreiras stakes which is won by Mu-chou Gustavo. This is one of these horses of turning back from triple crown prep races for Bob Baffert. He had been successful sprinting earlier in his career. They got him back to sprinting, which is probably where he's going to be most successful moving forward. And he looked okay. I wasn't all that. Impressed with them to be honest. You only got a one. Oh, wait time for US speed figure it midway. He did it easy. It's on track. We have coded as red as favoring this case, where I'm not sure how actor that is. I'm going to have to go book at 'em again. All the dirt races. There weren't very many of them. I think there were only four maybe five on the card were won by short price horses who went wire-to-wire we do try to take that into account that rating. But when every single where races won by short bridge favorite. You can't eliminate it completely so not really blown away the disappointment. This race was sparky Bill who had tried synthetic last time out thought he'd run a little bit better moving back and he was just a complete no-show much running at all. So I'm just gonna draw kinda ignore this race going forward. I wasn't impressed by anyone in here, even the winter. Yeah. I know what you mean watching the Mason actually Lucho Gustav was. Briefly in deep water at the top of the stretch because he had a bunch of horses ranging up around him. Sparking getting a good trip inside of him before angling out. But I do think his bottom from participate in all of those stamina oriented, route races really kicked it at the end of this race because he was drawing from this fields like he had something left in the tank at the end. I know that Joe tell had asked a little bit to get them there, but he was finishing off this rates pretty well. So we'll say I portraying him as a sprinter in this race. But maybe a mile is fine for him. I wouldn't be surprised to get that distance as well in the future. But like you were saying he's not the fastest horse overall. So I wonder how good he really is. He was beating weaker field in this spot the wrap up the show with to race from Bill on park last weekend. One of which was the only stakes race. I believe it was run this past week at Belmont that was the great three soaring. Softly at seven furlongs for the three year old fillies on the turf and no surprise that Chad Brown. Won the race a bit of supplies. The Chad route one, the long shot and caused an upset you often see. Happen under. No, you see more often than you think with the, the, the other Chad Brown as many people like to say, but she ran. Well, I think it was her first time on turf. If I remember, right a which inserted expect some jumped from Chad Brown. When they moved the earth at the ant on verdict clearly in maybe people were looking at the speed figures that ran as a two year old. But that's the thing to do when horses comeback as rear OJ almost always have them the run faster if the trainer showing some confidence in him. And he clearly was in this spot. We actually gave a better figure to michelina who weren't run a real fast race. First time out, he said a fast paced year before fading beaten two and a half lands. But got a one oh nine maybe seven furlongs this a little bit bar for her as you'd be better on the earn back, but pretty pretty decent race wooder cove, who had run in the breeders up out Philly our which he was in the do banal turf sprint. And then came back rent a decent second king Lim within here. So pretty solid field seeking destroy. Looked really good on the turfing looking forward to her not your show stretch out. But she sure looked like she did yes, she's a funny horse, and I think a lot of people offer in this race because she actually had run on the turf one time before at Saratoga last summer. And she was heavily bet that day she was the favourite in at Saratoga maiden race. I remember there was a positive workout reports about trading a coming into that race in. She was just really disappointing. She finished sixth that day really dull effort. Maybe she didn't wanna go the two turns because she came back and was successful in one, turn on the dirt subsequently slower speed figures as you mentioned, but champ around put her back on the turf here and. Also, she got somewhat lucky to win because the pace of this race wasn't were favor. And she was able to make a an outside move to get it done. The hor- if you watch this race the horse that obviously, should have won this racist, Stillwater cove, and I'm not just saying this, because I better saying this, because she was just completely buried in traffic for the entire stretch drive. I mean Joe Bravo stuck down inside around the far turn just a seem never opened up. He tried to get her off the route briefly at the eighth pole. And it turned out there is traffic there to a horse came up inside of her glorious on the inside. She got through that spot. It's still quarter coach should have gone through and she was just steadied badly in the late stage. I it wasn't just the had nowhere to go. She was actually he was pulling up across the wire because there is just so much traffic trouble. I have no doubt that Stillwater cove would have easily beaten this entire field if she had gotten out because she's a horse that had shown reliability in her prior start just unfortunate. She couldn't show it in this race. I agree with you about. Galina. She's a nice Philly. I liked her debut will lot aquit up the time before that was a legitimately fast race. And she came back with another good effort here, sitting that fast paced. I think this was a good field overall. I'm just not for the best source wanted y'all have to watch that again, I was only watching, what may be half an eye on Belmont on Saturday with all the goings on 'em. What co- one thing to note about seeking this joy though she did win on a couple of times. I look back when you said she have run on turf. Is that champ Brown's never actually entered her on all of her races have been off the turf? So the spite that one disappointing effort on earth feet. He was Eappen her on it. So he must've saw something that think this horse is earth, four. So if he can read between the lines are maybe there was something to see in as you say, I guess, you got a little bit lucky. If you like this worse is ill water cove. Sounds like she was best. Yeah. That is about Chad Brown entering her for all of those races. She was not a main track only in any of those starts. It's just the thing that I was thinking is true. Out really leaving ridden. These Dirk races, because he likes a lot of terrip. I just thought maybe that was Chad route not carrying that much. But she actually is okay turns out. So I was wrong about that will wrap up the show with a race on Friday from Belmont Park. I wanted to talk about. It was an allowance race. I believe it was the fifth race on Friday seemed like a decent salty allowance field heading into the race and candy gram who has really stepped his game up as a four year old this year for Jimmy jerkins got the job done it before that I thought was very visually impressive. He just was looked like had a ton of horse throughout the race around the far turn dueling with the over bed favorite. It's all relevant, and he just easily put that away at the top of distraction was really finishing faster than the closers behind him. He drew off with lot left in the tank. Yes to easy wins in a row for him in you know we discussed this last night. I originally gave this rates at one thirteen but they even kinda convinced me to go back and look at the race. Again, they're only three dirt races run on the day. So it was definitely not an easy speed figure day. But in his, I reviewed it again spent the little more time I came around to your thinking in, you know, bump this not just arbitrarily bump this horse up to the one nineteen ivory rated all of the races one of the other races got faster while the second race guy got a bit slower. But you know that's a advantage to having David at Nyra. He can keep a Cosi on these races may in another guy doing the figures for all the races as much as we'd like to give them all the detail that we possibly can we simply don't. You know it's impossible to go back and watch every replay of every race. So I always appreciate your input. And I think it's a better as chose up in the charts today. I think it's gonna make a lot more sense. What it did originally? Yan candy grams of horse that just full disclosure. I liked the lot. He of course that I was following Gulfstream this winter because he had gotten some trips down there. That's why he had run some slower speed figures in those Gulfstream races. And based on this performance in how easily beat this field. I wouldn't be surprised if they go onto stakes next the favor of this race was it's all relevant to his three to two and I think he's a horse that are that the time from invest figures, exposed a little bit because he had been involved in some slow paced races some races against cheaper company. Some races act where I think you had to make some difficult figure calls about how to break races out how to breakout role races. And it turns out that the time with us numbers were spot on with a horse that just was a little bit slower than these horses in really shouldn't have been down to such short prices favorite. Yeah. Gray was probably partly because of the rates claim as well people like the bed her first off the claim. But yeah, I went back and looked at the speed figures when you brought this up last night, and I really didn't have any issues with the numbers that, that I given to them. I'm fine with a mess were kind of backed up that I got him this time I don't get him. All right. But this one was. Always good to see that moving on coming weeks. Talk a lot more about the Belmont Stakes some of the contenders to get into it now but it's a race that I'm really looking forward to as well as a lot of the undercard stakes races. So we'll discuss all that on a future podcast, 'cause running out of time this week as always you can listen to the time for me was pace cast on direct dotcom Spotify tunes apple podcasts YouTube sound cloud. Just search for daily racing Reverend get your podcast and the time from those pays cast is right on there. So thanks for listening always this week. Greg always talk about the racist with you, and we'll see you again next week with more racist recap. Thanks guys.