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British actor Timothy Spall digs deep
"This is an ABC podcast. My guest on conversations. Today is Timothy spall. Timothy makes his living in what he calls the ludicrous profession of standing up. And pretending the Papal Timothy have pretended to be include Peter Pettigrew in the Harry Potter films. uh-huh and Winston Churchill and the king's speech. He's often worked with the British direct to Michaeli a few years ago. He starred in Lee's film Mr Turner about the painter William Turner a cockney born in seventeen seventy five who became famous. As one of England's most sublime landscape painters playing Turner was one of Timothy's first starring roles and at one him the best actor award at the canned film festival his most. Recent film is Mrs Lowry Harry and son and in a timothy again takes on the role of a real life. English oddest but life isn't all about acting Timothy. He and his wife often to be found. Battling about the waterways of Britain on their custom-made barge the Princess Mathilde. Hi Timothy the painter that you play in new film L S lowry. What did he's painting? Look like Whoa. They are broadly depictions of of a particular type of industrial landscape around between the Nineteen Thirties to nineteen fifties of northern England. which sounds immediately boring? But they're not because actually what they are is competence of very very sketchy not went around and did overall places but then took back to the studio and painted from his mind's eye so they're also a landscape and many of them have these figures in front of them sometimes hundreds of hundreds of and small figures. Oh in a group but all alone. So they'll have this wonderful sort of mixture of the recognizable also slightly mysterious and so they record this landscape landscape and now while Elisa term riddled an infected with a kind of bleak beauty. He was able to see a beauty in something. Something that was not perceived as such because these are not paintings of English fields and meadows and and waterways industrial in industrial in England him and sometimes parks. But there's always a kind of broken down quality or the Porsche parts of town What what the film is is you know at its center? Is this a rather claustrophobic. Incredibly intimate somewhat unhealthy but people might say relationship in an unseemly way but in an emotional way with his mother and I think the more I looked to the work in the more I thought about this relation to the to that and devotion to his mother and his desire to please her in direct opposition to he's autistic impulse to paint things that didn't it's quite an interesting way of realizing that you are onto something. That was very simple. Very simple on its on. Its surface very sophisticated underneath a bit like his paintings in the film. His mother supplied by Vanessa Redgrave in extraordinary performance of angry bitter old woman twain without a throne. What did chafing of his paintings? Mother never missed an opportunity to tell him regularly how much that she absolutely loved them. Not only that how much I embarrassed her. How much they reminded her of how come down in the world how she felt that he was embarrassing? Himself was a painting me sort of common subject. So what happened to to them. Socially is his father was also a rent collector. We say rank led to they work for you know stay agents will stay people. The father seemingly promised a career promise it went nowhere. He didn't make the money if I go into debt so they had to move from a rather she. She genteel Manchester to this industrial area. And he's painting she felt will reminding them her off that terrible state at an int and also she would choose to find You know derogatory and rude and eh insulting reviews of his in read them to in I mean so but this was also a thing a terrible sad way of trying to keep him keeping with because he'd never had a child Reno a closer relationship than with her. He was a dedicated. Take care and we're talking about an invalid somebody who'd been invalid bedridden for many a an collect rent come back he would get a t he would perform abortions tool that he would then sit with her. Tell her about his day she would live through is day He would then make sure to turn to. She went to sleep eight customers into a bit of music but then he would go into his attic. Pint the painting paint until sometime to in the morning and produces things are now center for two or three million pounds but she never she she saw would just say that you know. They're all she just said not only offer their embarrassing us. You Stop it teaching to stop it. Why was he a character that you said guests to playing Timothy? What I think because of that given that he was trained signed in in fact? You know Hall Wyatt by her to to please her the fact that he's autistic impulse this this this at one day when Mr trained to record what he saw around him because or artists in a really original artists neither go to fund our own invoice in their own signature. Our own thing that is uniquely does and he wandered around and he was a equally snobby about area until he had this epiphany where he said. Actually the thing I should recall it staring me in the face then advance into this style. This unique weeks style. And he he became the inventor the proponent and the only person ever at dungeness and still remains the only practice rezone in school of invention many people attempt to influence many people. But this is why and in conjunction this this humbleness humbleness and this desire and its tension of impulse and his desire to please you know and also you have to remember. Is that painting In particularly in this case is deeply deeply private and and release and it belongs to him not to to her. It was his it was his expression. It was coming from his soul for itself to producing casings whereas most of his soul being far as she's concerned dying to be in her so he seems such a different character from Jame w Turner in terms of his confidence in his own ability in terms of the public acclaim. That that turn had free. Do in the years that you're playing him is hugely celebrated figure. I'm very very different. Share things in common. I oh I think I mean that. Both landscape painters Turner was one of the people that turned landscape painting from sort of secondary But the backgrounds of portraits into somebody regarded as an all as a great off foam in itself. You know But also China worked from sketches. I did not paint Very rarely painted outside. He's landscape from made in the studio and therefore from the sketches through the transition in studio for his own emotions his own idea of what he was trying to interpret after all. The Romantic is not an evening on Valentine's Day in an autistic since it means interpreting what you feel in your art not not just what you see. The sublime is not an explanation of a charming basis cheesecake sublime is the conjunction hunk shouldn't between the awesome dreadful in Niger on the beautiful. That's what he was painting and fruit that you know. Being one of the main exponents of Ref Omaha. He's own imagination. Hone emotion in the sense of this. Infant was being influenced by himself in the studio the same way that when lower back to studio sketched these much more bleak doc versions of this infinite he would still was transferring fruit his emotional root through this Tension with his mother fluid is designed to record his environment virus imagination which they share in common most of that film with Mrs Lowry in San Takes Place in the bedroom between your character and his mom but in Mr Turner it's the whole world of early nineteenth century England. That's three created the street the fishing villages the brothels the painting academies. How on Earth did you go about doing that? Of course you use trick sweet sweet. We ought to go out and turn parts of London. There are massively still. Parts of London are Georgian older. You know I mean I lived in London audience next door to a twelve th century church you know what I mean but Oso Margate that down by the seaside that Margai which is in London no longer exists so we had to go to another part. Aw We went to go down to Devon much less being developed so tricks tricks tricks of choice. Location management being another thing but also the Endeavour of craft in conjunction with the building up of the drama to make you know the whole lot like it's happening there and then what about the the language Timothy. Because you know Mike Lee's famous for using improvisation. was that possible in a script it sounded so other worldly sounded so much of it on. Yes yeah I mean we did that. We we We worked on the language we would do long long. Improvise Asians using terminology. Obviously get it wrong times and then the amount of times you you say okay is crews were exists only came in nineteen twenty nine and other knowledge is and the breaking up of words and the shortening of words and the order of words so Huso. Mike always has dedicated researcher. If you're doing a period piece that's their expertise that period so they're gathering much much material for you as well as also you know making making sure that we're all we know in you know as a shed group who getting the language right but in that process of turning from improvises indiscriminate you then have a chance to work on the accuracy of the linguistic so you know an assignment topsy turvy. The film about given sowed when we were very very very strict about getting that Ryan. I watched Mr Turner again on the weekend. Such an incredible film your language anguish is marked by groans and grunts as Mancha's by actual words. was that something that you found your way into was turner of famous grump top. Would it just came out of this sense of him. Having this incredible contained and passion inside him this suppressed Anger Passion is born out of Miss chowed outed. He's loving credibly loving father but this mother that was famous. Oh Furry Furry difficult and strange and in fact insane you know and And I think this burning sort of pressure cooker because he speaks a lot more than people. Thin is quite long speeches in long on a talk about the quasi classical things on token classical classical Greek with a legit confirms because that's what he was an expert on it. You know By the sounds way same same night the steam of passion coming out this pressure cooker. Who Order this incredible energy under him and it's like an expression expression of what he thought about people without what he thought about the situation without actually saying the words there are so many scenes of you painting S. so much energy around the way painting that film how did you go about preparing? So that part of the filming the painting a Mike Lee he asked me to go. This is two years before we even start rehearsing to govern. Learn how to paint. They found me a brilliant guy who Tim Brian who was a a very Brennan artist himself. I A fantastic teacher. And he gave me over two years on and off no every day. But it's kind of cool sin kind of foundation coercion over the different mediums. Oil Takata On my knee drawing life drawing we did out and about and then that we did a few leading up to doing a couple of you've copies. I'll go full so come on attorneys masterpieces home. That ended up impact with which is better go. Forty of his is paintings in errands. Sussex and it was in an exhibition. Somebody's such as that. I mean it was. It was such a funny. I wasn't there so I couldn't say that was true. My my all. She just said that actually happened. So I duNno I look at it war. How are you an another day and I was talking to somebody else? GONORRHEA DOT com. He said you did it because I was standing next when you did it is an is an old saying is nothing like the knowledge of being hanged in the morning to concentrate the mind wonderfully wonderfully. If you know you're going to have to paint one of the great pint on script and be on screen at fifty foot wide brush. You'RE GONNA have to get on some of it so you had to use of preparing the painting for that role. When when Michael started filming Timothy was at a moment of deep breath before you I put that paint? Brush on the canvas. Was it just flowing. Naturally I'd been doing so much of it in the Improv. 'cause we might up a you you know you make up a set that you were in on what you might the environment of the person we had been in a mockup of turn studio for about three three months working while my own tons and just doing that so it was a natural progression of that. The hardest one was when we you did a huge great big improvisation of of the What cold varnishing diet the Roy Economy where the appliances were allowed to go and finish their paintings over a period of ten days famous. Same print off with constable read. Ma Hey greg lobban on the painting. That looks already finished. Yeah what is he did that he was alive because the painting next to it constables dunes. Brilliant fantastic painting of London Bridge. We've always but start. Read some beautiful rich reds and turn US e piece is Beautiful Pile Pyo Head of would slouches score this Dutch warship on he went in and you could see stuck each painting next two the constables. Many blind Bolivia my paint so he can go in and out of lucrative football gonNA do came back in in just his brush stuck a big Red Blotch on this actually advocacy as I witness and I must have thought he'd ruined his is a statement says he's ruined a masterpiece and then he just leaves. It comes bat lighter with a cloth on his from grew this Turner. This long firm now use grew my big long thumbnail and come as what it did and I was struggling what to off an his red boy appears in this painting and all of a sudden all the I because of the red in constables. By and just go straight from this blue pile was gonna come back back biting straight to sing it just not in Sync Qasim section to it and he said he turned with fired. A shot here today and it's exactly exactly what was said of it then it's strong boating. So budget for the good of art. Not just for ego won a mixture. I mean that's is one of the big questions after you so time as an artist of any form is is this for you or is this for them. What is it what is it you know where it comes along as when you hear about arrogant surgeons? You couldn't care less if that surgeons arrogant. If you're going to say my life ing B as if he's allegance feeds his brilliance guy for a lease keep it up signed for artists or anybody. Don't get in the way as long as we Camin. The you know the the quick route to fame and with a reality shows do that they forget the Croft pits yard but a nego. But sometimes it's taken prevalence over the application of the craft. Doesn't it like turn in out Timothy. You were born in London. What part of the city did you off London? Lavender Hill if anybody's ever seen a film called eleven. The Hill Mall an eating comedy anyway. That's where I was bone bass. Assi is on the opposite side of the river attempts to Chelsea some might say they should side of the River Thames Knob gentrified. It's become a different thing as you know put mine cities are they change Asia but no it was an area actually funny enough When I was born my dad was a scuff older and my mom was A. We're GONNA chip shop. Not Actually I was born. That would have been dangerous. That poll I was born at home in the same room that she was born in. Actually which is it. Sounds like some dickens novel but no that's his execute and apply in a house. It was an oddity. Didn't have a bathroom so we had to fill the bath every Saturday whether we needed a bath or not once a week from the ascot which was deployed or on the rubber hose into the often. Go I'm going off the job was I mean does sound like some kind of movies ever reality. The order of getting a child My brother and I would. That would run a Roman my mom we would have housed any run another one data into the backyard in any another one and then my mom would get that need. Get in the water. After that so Sherry. Mortar was the thing that people use to well as it further you went along it kind of got dirtier but DEEPA the more you're more of a Bouillabaisse. No no that's where I was born. A AH funny enough On Mum passed away free months ago and Go wrist assault and wasn't wasn't too later that we found Way She wanted to be kept because we were going to tip the seekers he ended up living down. Margate believe it or not. I'm not only that in the flat. Almost exactly what. Turner fell in love with severe. The landlady I think right now. It's a strange thing. Isn't it. Royal Royal visit whenever now built. Its own a center and that street is only the bomb of it left because I was listening to Ted rehoused countless. Stay out the back of Clapham junction which squad close and I was watching a documentary and there was a preacher route street being bulldozed on the comments search said here. We have footage of slum clearance being completed in south London said on we used to live in a slum She said dummy ridiculous. School tweeted so relative. When according to this plummy via we did but the bomb of left and this church? It's still that was called sympathized amuse church. is now a Greek Orthodox Church Kucinich Carias but willed said because we were gonNA put her in the C- down in Margate but the will said following on. My ICEES are concerned. I WanNa be left where I know where I am. So I managed to get our the braced and This church took three days after she died. Went down to this church vow road walk throat and When I'm being an essence I was twelve is wonderful feeling? Guinan and I couldn't believe it. And it China was icons inside beautiful service guy on it got hold of him on I didn't think you call me back. But he did and he said and I was able to just before I came here. Yeah take a ashes on a bit of a A pilgrimage down where I was out eleven around there and back Sorta to pinpointed where we the house where we both boom. It's now slow. Rise started at with me mom in a bag in a cost and a guy came out and said you call us it. Yeah I said sorry. I said of a reasonably I was born right here as was my mom he said few timmy spoke us it. Yeah we may not not I just now you all UH said anyway yeah. I've got my mom in this bag. As on a wash it has seem a bit the old way back down to the church. And they're gonNA put an. I found a little space for in this church where she was christened and married. Well I was kristen. My three brothers Christian where my father and mother were married where father was probably Christian. You UH I mean it's a wonderful feeling to free hundred yards from where she and I were born. Say That when she met your dad she was working in a chip shot but then she worked as a hairdresser. She was to address. Yeah very very good. Yeah she Started in in in a room spare room in our house in the slump in why Up An and it was a little room with three of the the old hairdryers. You know like big meek on helmets go up there and I would kissel the latest good not. I'll come on. Give me the the case beyond the day with a onto their hair and signed. And then I'll go beden. And then she did so well that she then bought the property around the corner and then that did one she extended that so show she she. Sylvia Salam it was cold and it was by as far the best phone. Embassy are member the these light. My mom loves loves a wonderful courage. He said a woman can come in here with three hairs in the nit leave looking wonderful and absolutely true women used to come in. We've hair under their sort of Ping in Green Chiffon scarves which ruled the right of the early sixties flat on go out with just a ton about just enough of this Chiffon scarf together around the huge beehive or a boo phone and I would go out looking marvelous podcast and broadcast cast. This is conversations with Sara Tanaka on. ABC Radio To describing growing out in battersea with working class parents former slum child is you the only discovered post the fact. According to the baby say news we will show performing gene. Come from well on the sound. Sound Jim Mom. My mom was a hairdresser itself toe and before that chip work and before that can be called in an opposite still women when mom and dad used to work as well before he was a scaffold and she also sang she sang one of has sung a bit like Sophie. Tucker or voice. Soldat that sound and Her Dad who was a asylums rep for the Times newspaper which supposed to around setting newspapers to you. Know in puff buffets and shops to make sure they their orders from he was also did a bit of the former friend is part time they used to do a double that. So Sodas strain of it in my family. Although under the surface none of it was ever professional. So when I you know way way back when I was deciding adding to whether to join the army become a tank driver all go to college and become surreal. It's I am played the line in the wizard of Oz and it went. Well it went really well. Tell me about that. What what way did you play that Calloway line? Well I basically I love of the films still do and I just watched law and I just did a copied him by CIBA dismayed in Maadi camp and it went down a stone. We did it three times and every time I did it on site. Something I'd love and I thought it was that took about tiffany's the the epitome about that I was Do Senate will you throw a little bit about it out of use your imagination to come up with a version of character account to react to it I will. I wasn't able to intellectualize it. But my drama teacher mentioned ways Helen amid so unfortunately I've never seen since I. She was taking my nose Felton because she'd help me put my makeup on. She said I've never said this to any of my people's before this stinking business often you should be an actor lighter. Try and Spud awed really my desire to join the army really sensitive theatrical which I go down my system. It's much better to have that experience. We'll fay in the film's I'd be thinking are quite a few. So if I'm on my first job on said he was playing a soldier so that took care of that one but I got rid of the album thing So obviously is somewhere on the line. God knows I don't know. Some NC in new led me applying. Turn and lowry. How did your mom and dad feel about you going into theater and acting as a profession while they were both incredibly supportive They knew was tenuous and and difficult but my mom and dad always at the cemetery. Mike is and I care what you do is only find some happiness. You know attorneys. It doesn't change much. You just want to know what your kids want to. If they have a quest wherever is very been active area come to chippy or counting Weber Long. There's I've got a plan you know. Also don't forget those days. It was much easier to get grants so rider is the big drama school or John. GotTa move dramatic. You went along Terada and Tina complete culture shock code feel I I expect to this. Inverted snobbery of people born during around in velvet smoking jackets. Tell me that's not true. I'm afraid no. Aw just a bunch and other disaffected but slight me. I mean people from all backgrounds and some of them are still my dearest friend but The thing is it was run by a brilliant man. Could you will who you didn't have to have any levels or any qualifications. I mean I've filed. Oh my audibles. Ironically the only thing I took got was I level which is is when you do at school and I'll go grad I and so but it's useless on it's You know so But I- addition Rod was the first one Roy dramatic art and there are three or four brilliant months. But I'll go in there and also I joined the National Youth Theatre which is a summer school which takes in kids from all over everywhere. Landon provinces everywhere come together night do professional standard productions in theaters by giving often by professional directors. So I bought some. I was seventeen. I played full staff in full version. Russian of not really nine that I was talking about learn quick And then I played Rod or I played the roll the player. `Bout Driftwood Scotsman which I'm sorry fasching Alcon site a name an idea. I kill people end up. Well Freeman Eva Nor his wife and then fellow so by the time I was twenty odd at this practical undone. Check off Bo Masha Russia. Donald as Gawky I mean it was an amazing Practical and all through the application of it not true. IMBIBING it having to do it. You know actually say those were so an. And there's nothing I refer to my original term like the knowledge is your being hanged in the morning to concentrate the mind wonderfully you know talking about and also you know if you all of a sudden you get any schooling you want to make it look like whatever you're saying you'll turn off the first sign it locker room human being in these early years after moving out of acting school and into your first jobs in theater Timothy you happen to meet a woman at a party. Tell me about that meeting with shame. I was actually in Russia expert comedy and and I I was doing this show called the night of the burning pestle and I was dying of a friend of mine who was always on my landlord. I came home off the show and when she was it was his girl. Sin Woman Person Sitting in with him she was the ex governor my landlord. It was my one of my dearest friends and just sort of member slipping off the chair. He had a terrible so I uh I think that if you touch it was so nice and then long story short. We didn't see each other. She contacted me. Few No roads to me if you ever find yourself in Wolverhampton. It's red eye saying you ever you find yourself on Alpha Centurion. Give me a ring. Six six months later in Birmingham Fainting Freecell river myself and I had this college sent me with a number on it a quarter gun inches details. Four months later we were married is how do you manage it when you've got to go and and do these incredibly intensive filming shoots and in TV series. What does that mean for life on the home? Front Jacome I mean. Luckily got out kids young. You know not over just to why it was. I didn't work great deal away from hyman young but now ever since the kids have flown in us we traveled everywhere together. We we we're joined at the HIP IF IF G Congo on don't go is great. You know really good. We talked about the working relationship. You had with Mike Lee for Mr Turner and an earlier film. Oh you appeared In that mark directed is the extraordinary secrets and lies where you play a a photographer. You're all set to go to con film festival. Oh with that film we. Things are didn't tell me what happened. been very well fitting the bit tired tired of it you know. I couldn't move very far. I'm going to sit down with his old so I'll go to the doctor. Giving give me a tonic because about two days into Zog boatman suit and everything was all ready to go to the kind film festival to you know be. It was in competition the film and see the doctor just in cases. Anything wrong with me and Just tonic or whatever. Uh whatever that means you know you think these stupid thing and I was working on this those during a commercial thing Coming would yeah. Well as and Is Fun cool saying you come. Please come into these come into the practice talk to China analyst told you said not com. I'm working and I said I can't do it and I said what is he sukanto you audible Caen. Can I call him a cold. Him and He said look. Oh boy you come in. You know. Go to conduct. You didn't want to. I've got but you gotTa tell me where it is you know They said well. I'm sorry Oh boy. You've you've got leukemia AusAID. That's really cool you back so just you know took about China you know. What's the worst piece of news you've ever heard that was pretty close to So this is happening to someone else so artfully myself you know on the most your providence. But they're not running back and said look it's calm be Ri- I'm I'm going to tomorrow and he's a no you're gonNA also. They wanted to start treatment. Strike said you'll going to offer so I went into universities. Call each London he sent me and luckily I did because it turned out probably at about four four or five days to live the kind of leukemia. Had Fruit is Acute myeloid which you can. It's easier to get rid of your lucky uh-huh gets you the quickest. If you hadn't gone to the doctor you might have had four or five days to leave when walking down them long steps at the cinema a AH come tumbling down. I mean that might have been so. I didn't go to make sense of that. That's such an extraordinary thing to hear. Doctor Say You know you could have been dead this time next week. Whenever said that done you might as dramatic as how much is afterwards you go? What is what he said? But it's taught that you know you can say is that type of don't WanNa Freak anybody out particularly hypochondriacs. Anybody who might be fading tied. You just saw it but some Mostly you know if you all will check out. No I mean it's It's a big things. God three young kids you know and I felt like this is to somebody else. Are these things you know. These things become normalized realized once they tell you what we're GONNA do. This is what it takes. It's not easy by it's GonNa very is success accessory and then you go through a process mercy rate is happening in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine fifty six. was there a point in that treatment process way you thought on turn the corner. I am getting get throw at you and shine. Could feel that you know you have to go dig deep you know you have to dig deep There's an old saying one of the things that sounds about his new who is also you know you. You're up against it. You gotta Ask Questions D. Deep Down inside so and you know but being seriously ill amount of the Things about this particular. I think they've got even more successful cure arrays. He's even higher now. Is You go through. Fevers them because they got to keep you alive they pump you full also they reduce your your blood counts zero wrote so I learned was actually when you get really ill let you your magic nation of the hook so NASA. What's the danger point? Nothing is when you start going in your full of drugs. An you don't think Oh. This is a fight. You just body-stocking Cassani. It was going on. You know and then you you mind wander and you but you're always hanging on the bottom line. Is the people say well. How did it get? I mean the thing is is it's it's missiles of goodwill which are got huge amount amount of determination in his may myriad forms and medical expertise on. I'm astounded to hear that people can get through these things through with homeopathy and serve. There are certain diseases that you're GonNa need the electric Ray gun yoga the need the ring on. Get it in the big blue bottle and stick it in my heart. They did not several times after going through that with any things in your work or in life beyond work that you wanted to do differently. Well you you know the thing about you can only remind stay for funding when you don't die for a while you know it's it's boring is there's no good evening waiting around. You know it's marvelous for awhile because when you come through. These things is without question. I was going to go. You don't let you off the hook that quick. Oh you're over skewered in remission you know so five years after they give you a bit of light would probably Elvis. You're going to copy US terms as know exactly medical home but Estienne Ferenza God. I was but you know you come. You can't go around being you know it's lovely to have appeared while you can sit and look at a tree and is just looking at it. I'm thinking that do united such you move forward. You go on your. Do you have things you know once you get better. There's the there's the luxury of pettiness not dying not being in a state of More abundancy means you also means you have the luxury of a Of Boredom occasionally the luxury of petty. Behave be annoyed when you tease call. Fingers don't care because you're you are basking in the flavor of Of those still win here but you know I'm afraid to say from my point of view getting back on with it you know. It's probably a big spiritual questions. Will you ask yourself. Why does that leave? Where does that leave reaching into the infinite? You know where is it what would you do and all that. I mean you know just read the doors of perception by Aldous Huxley. I'm reading you know Just read what inspiration of that is trying to Edna Tyler that. Which is the marriage of Evan? Anelle by William Blake and Huxley writes brilliantly really about the doors of perception but he comes to the conclusion that you're GonNa get much dumb if you spend fourteen hours staring at the creases in your trousers and finding them wonderful. The one thing that you did start doing of going through these life and death scale was boats and boating mom model that come onto the pitch. Efi You weird and I. It was almost again light. Friends would come and I would say what you what what can bring you in a said. What's a sudden in the world? Your what was your always stay. You go what. Aw Say Chemo. Then it might just everything tasted awful. Food is just. I don't want to eat so I said online. Bring me some CDs of Baroque music. Owens and boating magazines. I don't know why I had. I just thought we had been on a canal holiday in China. I map just as a four day thing but I don't know it was just all and I just kept thinking about boats and look at these magazines boats in so eventually you know when likes things. Were looking up sezzi-cheye we're GONNA get two things if we get food is we're GONNA get a Rolls Royce Voice. Am I gonNA get to run. And the Rolls Royce. I is this electric blues. Drug data all rolled. We're all up deathtrap. Actually I'll go for a while by us the runaround you know I mean I use all and so they can. I didn't diving dying. I blue rose. I mean so and then we bought this twenty year old narrow boat which is canal boat which should be kind of the much. Love friendly just sti- chugging about on the canal and absolutely no. I was used to remember which side of the canal you had to be. I got it but that progress to us. This having a canal boat built another one big one and we took that canal boat would y from the Midland's down to London and back from I'm not an old Yorkshire so he did a huge amount of the inland waterways. And then I add this mad desire to challenge. I guess you know as it. Why she's only fooling in three or four was different on the CD said Yeah but you know I mean obviously you know anyway kept on about it? And then she eventually found. His boat built luckily Wilkie now the money was coming in so she said Oh I found. This Bo building makes seagoing barges so the princess. Mathilde Bill Bill We picked it up on the Thames. I'm Brentford in west London. And we were GONNA tight that down to the Thames and then white down there and find a pilot to take us across the channel because I'd had absolutely no seafaring experience We you didn't do that. We one day. We got down evolvement attempts no experience no radio nothing like foods. We went down to the bottom of the Thames awesome. This is the C.. I knew it was these things until you see this and have a great big time because coming on an an end about achieving problem That steering Went wrong gone round and in the mouth of the weather tends meets the medway and we were going around and around in a circle. Didn't get me but now I mean on I off a what the hell am I gonNA do. What do you do the Tiller out? Emergency to still wouldn't go around and around in a circle should have dropped the anchor but forgot all about now that the mat-su flew out the wind. I'm known as it was it was on C.. Days are you could make up dental. I saw this thing Sticking out of the sea the bum the big mosque a mosque in three next. I thought we'd get over there. Waiting Hookah win arrive. Lebanon and we can wait anyway. I was going to Congo at me. If we just might driftwood on its own version and not go. You saw saw this pilot about these boats coming out of the medway night. Go and tight. The big time goes up and they bring him in to the Tilbury where they unload them and stuff on a wave them down and this what about came up and said I'll I'll watch hollow actually go the problem. I said Yeah I would. You know you'll do international sign for distress which is why even Lila say. Well I'm in distress and any kind of buying this me legs off jump. That jumped on taught us up and he took us into this little pole. The end of the MEDWAY turns out. That's that's where they'll send us to load up his cannons. You know before we went on this very loudly that goes combat. We went to valk awful awful. This is so I better learn a bit about so. Then we'll learn the radio calls and started studying charts. I never had any lessons then. We often wall with his that. We weren't GonNa go to 'cause I got brave thing because I thought it didn't to kill me crossing the Atlantic. Whoa no was we again? I try to come out at ten on a ground on the swale. which is this ditch sometimes to see the ditch between the artist? Chevy what how ridiculous so I went back and then I studied the jobs. You know no lesson. I started Well it out. Then we went literally went out to sea on right so we didn't go to France. We circumnavigated the Hollywood of the British Spicy so and it took us full years don enough could then be dumped the boat here. I'll go back to work. I mean move on ended up right up in North Sea come down on his side of written. Then eventually I mean starting my Serandon. We took it across the China and ended up in Sweden anymore. About five years ago. Free Day to get on Lori Timothy. Let me see. It's been delightful to speak to you. Please take care out there on the seas probably won't on getting better I I'm I'm there's now some very good apps and my study in. Yeah I mean things about the plenty. I enjoy doing scared of it. I don't know why I do it. I love it though. Ams uh-huh got it bit lot to paint and really love it. Bob's good of it. Thank you so much Timothy's great to talk to you. I knew been a pleasure. After you've been listening to a podcast of conversations with Sarah can ask for more conversations interviews head to the website I they say dot net dot us slash conversations Discover more great right A._B._C.. podcasts live radio and exclusives on the A._B._C. Listen Up.
Badass Unscripted - The Courage Habit
"Readings. Everybody. Welcome back to another episode of bats unscripted. Listen, if you haven't already sign up for my weekly newsletter each week. You'll get advanced previews for my upcoming book field notes for the Al leader. But you'll also get weekly mindset inspiration videos. Somebody just keep you on the right track for the week some to keep you connected and inspired as you move to your leadership agile journey. Listen this week, I wanna talk about the courage habit. We spent a lot of time recently in this podcast talking about the source of fear and how to manage around fear. And just as a quick recap, there's two ways that you can help eliminate fear or manage around it anyway. And the first is to drown the fear, and that means having a sense of purpose. Usually vision rooted in service that so strong so powerful that simply by being present in your heart and mind allows you to. Overcome most of the things that we would normally fear and allow us to get paralyzed the Spall to fail to act. The second half was to reduce the fear through exposure, what they call inoculation, and that an inoculation has to be gradually Dipa toe in than up to the ankle to the knee and so forth. Let's really the how of working around fear. Let's talk about the win. You do that in order to get good at being courageous. If you want to be known as a courageous person if you wanna feel in your heart and mind that you are a person of courage, this has to become a habit. Which means you have to drown the fear and reduced the fear by exposing yourself to it on a regular basis. And how do you do that? Well, here's the reality so often when things are frightening to us, Witter's, public speaking, or confrontation, whatever the case may be one of the most difficult things is in the face of that. Fear is remembering to be courageous, remembering that you want to be a person of courage, so that you can decide and act differently. Here's what you need. If you wanna have a habit so that you can get good at this. And as with everything we do committed to muscle memory so that you become unconsciously competent that this fundamental, the first thing you need to do is have a plan to notice when fear rises up this in and of itself is a habit, but making commitment to yourself today that when you feel the symptoms of fear, and it's different for everybody, but it could be or commonly is trembling clenched, fists clenched teeth dry, mouth feeling fidgety tension in your shoulders. In your forearms in your chest in your legs. It could be fearful protective postures, which are hunched over head leading down averting your gays and so on, whatever it is free would however, you act, or however, fear shows up for you make a point to notice it. And if for now all you do is notice it when it's happening. That's good enough. But eventually, you will have to once you get good at noticing. It is making a decision to respond differently again, if you to body language or posture symptom, it might be enough for not to simply change, your posture. But in many cases as with confrontation, that's actually not going to be enough. You now have to act in courageous ways, wouldn't you agree you now have to instead of walking away from the confrontation or simply agreeing or Akwa saying, you have to find the courage to state your claim to make your voice heard, or if you fear public speaking, you have to make the commitment to think differently to feel differently about the challenge in front of you. Runaways not an option and most people don't run away from challenge like public. Speaking, partly because it's less threatening than let's say confrontation. But I've known people who matter how many times, they get up and speak in front of others. They still trembling shake every time tons of practice. They're not getting more comfortable with it. So if you don't get many chances to speak in public, or that's not your fear. Here's some places you can start today to help build the courage habit in areas that are safe controlled in easy to find. Here's one do you fail to make contact? You might not even be aware of this one. But when you have conversations with other people, do you find that you're often looking at your desk, looking at your notes, looking up in a way, but not making real eye contact with other people. Now, this is not an area of tremendous fear for most people. But obviously, there's some fear there or you wouldn't avoid the eye contact in the first place. What you don't realize that it's damaging your ability to may? Make relationships and connect with your fellow human beings. So it's an area where if you can make changes by noticing the fear. So notice when the behaviors happening making a decision in the moment to do differently. This is a great example of an easy low risk place to try that another area. We can try it is saying, no so often people dump something on your desk, or ask for a favor, and we a civilized beings as social creatures, don't want to, and therefore, don't say, no, sometimes if you wanna be massively impactful in successful, you have to protect your time, like at your most precious resource and often say, because it is. So there will be times where you have to say. The one thing you don't wanna say which is no to someone who you know, and feel is counting on you. Okay. So notice when it happens notice when you're about to say, yes, when you don't really want to. In that moment decide to do differently. Here's another area. We could try building courage, habit, admitting mistakes. Most of us will seek to defend so that we can feel justified. And right. And we need that justification so that we can feel okay and whole invalid. But if you want to develop and grow as a leader, you need to be able to admit mistakes. So every time you find yourself getting defensive giving excuses. Making defenses notice stop and commit decide to do differently. Another area might be seeking feedback or accepting lame. So when things don't go the way we plan asked people for the feedback that in your heart of hearts. He don't wanna hear. Or if you want to be ultra courageous simply put your hand up standing between your team and danger and say, you know what? That one is on me. It takes tremendous courage to do that. But at the same time if you make a habit of doing it and just see that, you know, nothing. Bad really happens that encourages you and reinforces the fact that it's the right thing to do. And it is the one thing you must do as you give yourself these little courage challenges to build the courage habit. It's okay to fail. It's okay if you try to make eye contact and you only really do it. Well, three times out of ten it's okay to really want to admit a mistake, but not the find the courage every time to say. Yeah. You know what I screwed up there? It is perfectly. Okay. So wanna say no not to be able to. Sometimes what you're looking for here is not perfection. It is okay to fail. But what's not okay is to not improve. By engaging in a courage habit. Literally or courage practice. It's so simple. So cheap this cost you nothing in terms of time out of your day, it is simply a conscious decision to do respond differently in the situations where counts the most you gotta try this, this will change your game friends. I hope this helps you, you know where you can find us at Banna satchel dot com or on Twitter at bad ass underscore agile, or on Instagram at bad ass gel until then play safe work hard improve every day, and I will see you next time. Thank you for being true believers love each, and every one of you see next time till then stay that acid.
Timothy Spall the British actor digs deep on screen and in life
"This is an ABC podcast. Guest own conversations. Today is Timothy Spall Timothy makes his living in what he calls the ludicrous profession of standing up and pretending the papal timothy have pretended to be include Peter Pettigrew in the Harry Potter films and Winston Churchill and the king's speech. He's often worked with the British director Mike Leigh a few years ago he starred in Laze film Mr Turner about the painter William Turner a Cockney born seventeen, seventy five who became famous as one of England's most sublime landscape painters. Playing Turner was one of Timothy's first starring roles, and at one him the best actor award at the Cannes Film Festival. His most recent film is Mrs Lowry and Sun and in a timothy again takes on the role of a real life English oddest. But life isn't all about acting for Timothy he and his wife often to be found battling about the waterways of Britain on their custom-made barge, the Princess Mathilde High Timothy. The painter that you play in this new film L S, lowry what he's painting look like Whoa they are. Broadly depictions of a particular type of industrial landscape. Around between the sort of nineteen thirty to nineteen fifties of northern England. which sounds immediately boring, but they're not because. I see what they are competitive rates of very, very sketchy went around and did overall places but then took back to a studio and Painted from his mind's eye so they're also. A landscape and many of them have these figures in front of them sometimes hundreds of hundreds of and small figures all in a group but all alone so they have this. Wonderful sort of of the recognizable, also the slightly mysterious, and so they record this landscape a now I o Elisa term riddled an infected with a kind of bleak beauty. He. was able to see beauty in something that was not perceived as sop because these are not paintings of English. Fields and meadows and and waterways industrial in industrial England and sometimes parks but there's a way to kind of. Broken down quality or they're not the posh parts of town. What the film is is you know at center is this. Rather CLAUSTROPHOBIC. Incredibly intimate somewhat unhealthy people might say relationship not an unseemly way but in a in A. Motion Away with his mother and I think the more I look to the work and the more I thought about this in relation to that and this devotion to his mother and his desire to please her in. A director position to autistic impulse to paint things that didn't. It's quite an interesting way of realizing that you are onto something that was very. Simple very simple on its on its surface but very sophisticated underneath a bit like his paintings in the film his mother is played by Vanessa Redgrave an extraordinary performance of angry bitter old woman. Without a throne, what did she think of his paintings through mother never? Missed an opportunity. To tell him regularly how much she absolutely loved them. Not only that how much I embarrassed to how? Much. They reminded her of how come down in the world how she felt that he was embarrassing himself. A painting me sort of common subject so. What happened to them socially is his father. was also a rent collector we say rank led to they worked for estate agents, will estate people. He's father seemingly promised had a career promise it went nowhere. He didn't make the money they go into debt so they had to move from a rather she. Genteel area of Manchester to this industrial area. And he's painting she felt. Reminding. Them. Of. Terrible state that phone. And also, she would choose to find you know derogatory and rude and insulting reviews by in read them to it in. I. Mean. So but this is also a thing a terrible sad way of trying to keep him. Keep. Him with. Because he'd never had. As we know a closer relationship than with her he was dedicated Cara I'm we're talking about an invalid somebody who'd been invalid bedridden for many a an e collect rent would i? Come back. He would get a t he would performer solutions to all that. He would then sit with her tell her about his day. She would live through his day He would then make sure to tune in to she went to sleep. Pus into a bit of music, but then he would go up into his attic. PINT pint and paint until sometimes two in the morning. Producing these things now center for two or three million pounds. She. Saw It. Just say you know they're all she just said. Not only their embarrassing. US. Stop it CIOCCI. To, stop it. Why was he a character that you said guests to playing Timothy? What I think because of that given the he was. In trained in in fact, you know Hall Wyatt by her to to please her. The fact that he's autistic impulse this this epiphany at one day when he missed it trying to record what he saw around him because or artists in A. Really original art is neither got to find our own voice in their own signature. Own thing that is uniquely does and he wandered around and he was A. Equally, snobby about area until he had dissipating where he said. Actually, the thing that I should record staring in the face. Then he advanced into this style, this unique style, and he he became the inventor, the only proponent and the person ever done this and still remains the only practice zone school. Of Invention you know many people attempt you didn't even influence many people but This is why and In conjunction with this, this humbleness and desire and its tension of his impose. Is designed to please you know, and also you have to remember is that painting? in particularly in this case is deeply deeply private and. And release. And it belongs to him. To her it was his it was his expression it was coming from his soul for. Itself to produce whereas most of his soul bean. Pharmacies concerned preordained to be in thrilled to her saw he seems such a different character from Jame w Turner in terms of his confidence in his own ability in terms of the public claim that the turn had in the years at you're playing he means is hugely celebrated figure dude. I mean, very, very different. He was so share things in common thing I mean the both landscape painters journal was one of the. People that turned landscape painting from a sort of secondary. Backgrounds of portraits into something was regarded as an all as a great off foam itself. You know but also Jonah worked from sketches did not paint. Very rarely painted outside. He's landscape of made in the studio therefore from the sketches through the transition. In a studio for his own emotions, his own idea of what he was trying to interpret. Optional. The Romantic is not an evening I on Valentine's Day in an artistic sense it means. Interpreting. What feel in your heart not just what you see. And the sublime is not an explanation of. A charming piece of cheesecake. Sublime is the conjunction between the awesome and the dreadful in Niger and the beautiful. That's what he was painting and Fru that. Being one of the main exponents of that red form of all. He's own. Imagination it hone emotion and his own sense of this infant. was being influenced by himself in the studio the same way. That when Larry Go back to three studio having sketched these much more bleak. Versions of this infinite. He put still was transferring it fruit his emotional root through this tension with his mother through this desire to record. His environment. Virus Imagination which they share in common. Most of that film of Mrs Lowry in some takes place in the bedroom between your character and his mom but in Mr Turner it's the whole world of early nineteenth century England that's recreated the street, the fishing villages, the brothels, the painting academies, How on Earth Did you go about doing that? Of course you use trick sweet we ought to go out and turn. Parts of London, there are massively still parts of London are Georgian older. You know I mean I lived in London earlier, live next door to a twelve century church. But. Also Margate that down by the seaside. That Margai, which is near quite near London no longer exists. So we had to go to another part. We went to go down to Devon where much less is being redeveloped. So, tricks tricks, tricks of choice, location management being another thing, but also the endeavor of craft in conjunction with the building up of the. Drama to Mike you know the whole like it's happening now and then. What about the language? Timothy because you know Mike Lee's famous using improvisisation. was that possible in script that sounded so Other worldly sounded so much. Yes We did that we we We worked on the language. We would do long long Improvised Asians using that terminology obviously getting it wrong a times, and then the amount of time to say okay is screws were in exist only came in and twenty And other terminologies and the breaking up of words and the shortening of words and the order of words so also. Mike always has a dedicated. Research. If you're doing a period piece, that's their expertise that period. So they gathering much much material for you as well as also. You know. Making sure that we're all we know in not shed group who getting the language, right? But in that process of tornado from improvise into scripts, you then have a chance to. Work on the accuracy of the linguistics. So in an assignment topsy turvy, the film about Galveston Seldon, we were very very, very strict about getting that. Ryan. Watched Mr Turner again on the weekend such an incredible film your language is mocked by groans and grunts as much as by actual words was that something that you found your way into was Turner of famous grump. Top. Will it just came out of this sense of him? Having this incredible contained passion. Inside him this suppressed. Anger this passion is born out of. Child. Is Loving, credibly loving father, but his. Mother that was famous you so very very difficult and strange and an infecting sign you know and and I think this. burning. Sort of. Pressure Cooker. 'cause he speaks a lot more than people. Thin is quite long speeches and long and talk about in the quasi classical things and a token that classical to about it so Greek with a logistical terms. Because, that's what he was an expert on it. You know. I. It sounds way same like the steam. Of. Passion. Coming out this pressure cooker or this incredible energy under him. And it's. Not Expression of Ethan about people without a what he thought about the situation without actually saying the words. There are so many scenes of you. Painting is so much energy around the way you painted Matte Film. How did he go about preparing for that part of the filming the painting? A Mike Liaz me to go. This is two years before we even start rehearsing to go and. Learn. How to paint. They found me a brilliant. Guy Who Tim who was a a very Brennan artist himself? And fantastic teacher and he gave me. Over two years on and off every day. But kind of cool center kind of foundation causing the different mediums. You, know. Oil Watercolor mine enjoying life during we did find out about then that we did a few leaning out to doing. A couple of copies food. So as Kobe wanted terrorists masterpieces at home that. Ended up impact with which is better go forty of his paintings in Sussex. And that was in exhibition. Somebody's somebody. Today's that. I mean it was it was such a funny. I? Wasn't there. So I couldn't tell you whether that was true. But my my apology to said that actually happened. So I don Obe I look at it it's. How AM, I was talking to him the other day. And I was talking to somebody else gotTA WE OUGHT SAYING DOT COM. He said, you did it because I was studying next when you did it. Is it is an old saying is nothing like the Knowledge of being hanged the morning to concentrate the mind monthly. If you know, you're going to have to paint wanted great pint is on. And be on a screen at fifty foot wide golden a brush you're GONNA have to get on with it. So you had to use of of preparing the painting for that role when when Mike Lee started filming Timothy was at a moment of. Deep Breath before you I put that paint brush on the canvas or was it just flowing naturally by the being doing so much of it in the improved because we might up. You know you make up a set. That you working on. The environment. The person we had been in a mock-up of turn a studio for about three months. Working, on the while my own times and just. Doing that. So it was a natural progression of that. The hardest one was when we did a huge great big. improvisisation of of the what they call varnishing Diet, the Roy Kademi where the painters are allowed to go and finish their paintings over appear to ten days famous Samory. Is a bit of A. Pint of with constable read Margret Blow on on the painting that looks already finished. Yeah. Yeah. What is he did that he was away Because in painting next to it constables doing this brilliant fantastic painting of London. Bridge. We always start read some beautiful rich reds and Tennessee pieces. This beautiful pile head would slouches quarter this Dutch warship on the UN and could say that stuck each painting next two constables. Many felt blimey. Asked him my paintings. So he counted at a look at football going to. Come back in just his brush. Stuck a big red blotch on and he's actually happened because his eye witnesses who saw and I must have thought he'd ruined his is a same says he's ruined a masterpiece in any just. Leaves. It comes back lighter with a cloth on his from outgrew this concern toner this long from now us. I grew my big long thumbnail income is. Did I was stroke what to off on her is read boy. Appears in this painting and all of a sudden. All the I because of the red in constables by just go straight from this blue pile must. Biting straight to this thing and it just that's boy in his CINCOTTA exception to it and he said he turned with fired a shot here today and exactly what was said of it then. It's showboating so For the good of art not just for got. A mixture I mean that's one of the big questions after yourself all the time as an artist of any form is. Is it for you or is this for them? What is it? What is? It coming along as. When you hear about our insurgents, you know. You think I couldn't care less if that surgeons arrogant you're GONNA say my. Be as if he's arrogant feeds his Brilliance Gopher Elise, keep it up. Signed for artists anybody done getting the way as long as we you know I, mean the. Other. Quick route to fame and all the you know. Reality shows it do that I forget the Cross Yard but Ah Nego bit. Sometimes it's taking prevalence over the application of the craft doesn't it? Like turn Timothy, you were born in London. What part of the city. Did you of London Lavender Hill anybody's ever seen a film called the lavender hill mob an eating comedy by that swear I was. Bone. Is. On the opposite side of the river. Thames Chelsea. Some. Say they should side of the river. Thames. KNOB in gentrified it's become a different thing as you know put mine cities are they change but no, it was an area actually funny enough. when I was born, my dad was scuff older. My mom was a we're going into chip show. No I actually when I was born that would have been dangerous. We would poll. was born home in the same room that she was born in actually which is. In sounds like some in dickens novel didn't it but no, that's true and apply in a house it. Was An oddity didn't have bathroom so we had. Filled the bath. Every whether we needed a bath or not once a week. From the ascot which was boiler on the from rubber hose into the often. An off-duty off and that was would it does sound like some? Of. The reality way we in the order of. Child. My brother. I would. Want Dad. Would run a from on my mum I. We would have hours then he'd run another one. Egypt. Out into the backyard and any feel another one and then. My mom get need water after that. You know. So Sherry mortar was the thing that people use to. Well as a further you went along it kind of got dirty a bit deeper. More of a more of a Boola base. I know that's where I was born I mean it. Funny Enough I'm mum passed away free months ago and Go wrist assault, and wasn't to later that we found where she wanted to be kept because we were going to tip in the because he ended up Living Down Mal guy believe it or not. I'm not only that in the flat almost exactly where Donna. In love with severe the landlady it's incredible as a strange thing isn't it royal? Now built its own a center. And that street is only the bottom of it because. I was watching the television and we re housed countless state of the back of Clapham junction. which squad clothes and I was watching a documentary and there was a preacher street being bulldozed. On the said. Here, we have footage of slum clearance being completed in south London. Said Marin. We used to live in a slum. She said Ridiculous School tweeted. So. Relative according to this plummy via we did. But the bomb of its left and this church that's still there. Was Symbolic Church. is now a Greek. Orthodox Church Kucinich Tarrifs. But the will said because we were GONNA put her in the see down in Maga but the will said followed my icees. Concerned I, WANNA be left on over I am. So a managed to get our the braced and this because three days after she died I went down to this church. To the valve road, walk the fruit and when I'm being since I was twelve and a wonderful feeling. Guinan, and I couldn't believe it and it. China because it was. Cons and start beautiful service guy on. A got hold of him and I didn't think call me back but he did and he said. I was able to. Just before I'm here take A. Ashes on a bit of A. a pilgrimage down where I was out eleven around there and back. Sort pinpointed where. We the house where we were both born it's now slow rise. Stunning. With me. Mum. It a bag in a cost. An Guy. came out and said. You Call Everyone Co Osset. Yeah I said, sorry I said of reason to believe. I was boon right here as was my mum, he said few Timmy spoke. US It. Yeah. We may it not just you all? US Anyway y'all. Got My mom in this bag. As. Up on wash hazardous modestly. I know it old way back down to the church and they're gonNA, put founded spice for in this church where she was christened. And married, well, I was kristen, my three brothers were Christian. Where my father and mother were married where father was probably Christian. You know I mean it's a wonderful feeling to be our two three hundred yards from where she and I were born. Site that when she met you dad she was working in a chip shop but then she worked as a hairdresser, she was a self to. Hairdresser. Yeah. Very very good she Started in in a back room in a spare room in our house in the slump in why up. And it was a little room with three. The old hairdryers you know up on Stein's big mikan helmets. No go up there and Kissel the is good. Not Come on the case beyond their the. Onto. Their hair and I. Go to bed and then she did so well at that, she then bought. Property around the corner on then that did one she extended that. So so she she sylvia's Salam it was cold and it. Was By far the best boo phone by I remember. Light my mom goes well as a wonderful courage he said. A woman can come in here. With three hairs in the nit. Leave looking. Wonderful. Absolutely true women's to come in. We've had onto their sort of thing can green chiffon scarves which rule the right in the early sixties. On go out, we've just a ton Lebow just enough of the she phone scarf together on the huge beehive or a boo on. A. This is conversation. With Sarah, Canal ski on ABC Right Yeah Imo conversations anytime on the ABC listen. ABC Dot net dot EU slash conversations. Timothy, you're describing growing up in battersea with working class parents former slum Charles, you only discovered post the. Cooler to the. News. We won't show. So where did you performing gene come from? Well, we're on the sound Jacomb and mom you know my mom was a headdress a so and before that chip work and before that. Can Be in an stole women, my mom and dad used to work as well before he was a scaffold and. She also sang she sang one of these had a song a bit like Sophie Tucker Voice. audio. Sound and. Dad who was a a sales rep for the Times newspaper which supposed to around setting newspapers to you know in puff puff is in shops to make sure they go their orders he was also. Did A bit. Performer friend of is apart time I used to do a double that. So there's a so much strain of it in my family although under the surface none of it was ever professional. So when I Way Back, when I was deciding. Whether to join the army. Become a tank driver or go to offer code A surrealist I am. Played the line and the wizard of Oz and it went well, it went really well, tell me about that way. Did you play that cowardly line? Well, I basically I love the film still do and I just watch law and I just served did copied him by CIBA dismayed decamp. And it went down. And we did it three times and everytime the. Site some in often I posed and I thought it was that talk about. The fanie about that. I was. Do Senate will you a little bit about it at a user imagination? To come up with a version of character I'm for an audience to react to it. I? Well, I wasn't able to conduct. You is Zipper my. Drama teacher mentioned always. For, Helen IT'S SO I. I've never seen since. She was taking my nose of help because she helped me put my makeup on. She said, I've never said this to any of my. People's before with his stinking rotten business often you should be an act. Later to try and SPA really my desire to join the army really sensitive theatrical which I got my system. It's much better to have that experience of Wolfe's in the film's I'd be thinking quite a few so. One of my first jobs on said he was playing a soldier so that took care of that one. But I had. Dined got rid of the damn. y'All thing. So obviously, this is somewhere the line God knows. knows. Something's in a in you. Let me supplying ton and lowry. How did your mom and dad feel about you going into theater and acting as a profession? Well, they were both incredibly supportive They knew it was tenuous and difficult for. My Mom. And Dad was at the semi to Mike and I can you do as long as you find happiness? You know attorneys changed much. You just want to know what your kids want to. If they have a quest wherever is very been active. Through. chippy or counting Weber long as I've got a plan. Also. Don't forget those days. It was much easier to get grants. So rotter is the big drama school or. Dramatic you went along Terada and. Teen. Was it a complete culture shock coordinated feel. I. Expected it. I had this. Inverted snobbery of people born during around in velvet smoking jackets. That's no true I'm afraid. No but just a bunch and other disaffected. But signed me I mean with people from all backgrounds and some of them still my dearest friend. But The thing is it was run by a brilliant man could heal. Who you didn't have to have any qualifications I mean I filed Oh my audibles. Ironically, the only thing I took got was I level, which is is when you do at school and I'll go. Now so but he's useless on its own you know. So. Dishes Rod was the first one Roy dramatic aw narrow three or four brilliant months, but I'll go in there. So I joined the National Youth Theatre, which is some school which takes in kids from all over everywhere Lana provinces everywhere they come together and night do professional standard productions in theaters but. Often by professional directors. So. By the some I was seventeen I played full staff in a full version have not really nine I was doing about. A learned quick. and then I played rod or I played the lead role in the player about dreadful Scotsman which I'm so fashion alcon site a name you an idea. I was people. End Up Well Freeman EPA nor his wife and then. Fellow. So by the time I was twenty odd at this practical undone check off. Beaumont Shea. Donald as Gawky I. Mean it was an amazing practical and all fro the application of it. Not, true imbibing it having to do it. Actually say those words. So An, and there's nothing I refer back to my original term like the knowledge of being hanged in the morning to concentrate the mind. wonderfully you know you're talking about. And also if you all of a sudden, you get schooling, you WANNA, make it look like whatever you're saying you'll turn up for the first time in sign locker room human being in these early years after moving out of acting school and into your first jobs in theater Timothy happened to meet a woman at a party. Tell me about that meeting with Shane I was actually in the Royal Shakespeare Company. And I I was doing the show called the night of the burning pestle. I was staying with a friend of mine who was always on my landlord I came home off to the show and she was it was Of Ago Sin Woman Person Sitting in with him. She was the ex governor my. Landlord. Was My one of my dearest friends and. Just. Member slipping off the two yet terrible sofa and I think that a few and touched off it was a nice home and then Calling, so we show we didn't see each other. She contacted me few. No wrote to me. If, you ever find yourself in. Wolverhampton. It's red eye saying, do you ever find yourself on Alpha Centurion give me a ring. Six months later. On in Birmingham. Feeling free over myself and I had this. College sent me a number on it. Akoda. Gun Instance States. Four months later women married. Is. How do you manage it when you've got to go and do all these incredibly intensive filming shoots and TV series? What does that mean for life on the home? Front. You Come May. I mean luckily. Kids Young. In. Not. Just to why it was. I didn't work great deal wife from Hahnemann that young. But now you know ever since the kids have flown the nest we traveled everywhere together. We will joined the HIP. If, if she Congo on go what did that was great you know. We talked about the working relationship you had with Mike Leaf and Mr Turner and an early film that you appeared in that mark directed is the extraordinary secrets and lies where you play a photographer. You are all set to go to con film festival with that film when. Things are. What happened. Why not been very well. Fitting the BIT tired and fan of it. You know couldn't walk very far into sit down for. Old so I'll go to the doctor saving. Give me a Tony Cause about two days into desire me suit and everything was ready to go to the kind film festival to you know be it was seen competition film. And our. Dog. Just. In. Cases. Everyone in a and just twenty whatever whatever that means you think these stupid thing I always working on this those doing commercial Yeah it was in. His Co. saying you come. Please come into. Please come into the practice you talked to China. To what you said not com I'm working. I. Said I can't do it and I said what is it Sacramento you? Caen. Can I call him a cold him and He said Look Oh boy you come in you know go to Conduct, you know they don't WanNa. Tell us I've got to tell me what it is. You know They said well, I'm sorry. Oh, boy, you've you've got leukemia. I'll. Call you back. So. I just took about. You know. What's the worst piece of news? You've ever that was pretty close to So do he's into someone else? So? Free. Myself. You know on the Miss Your providence and but then are cooling back and said. Look. It's calm be I'm going to can't tomorrow and he's not gone to hospital. Treatment Strike Awesome why said you're going to auspices? So I went. To. University College. Hospital London. He sent me the. and luckily, I, did because it turned out I'd probably about four or five days to live. The kind of leukemia the. Cute. Model which you can. It's easier to get rid of you're lucky. It gets you the quickest if you hadn't gone to the doctor, you might have had four or five days to lead. When walking down them long steps at the cinema. Come tumbling down I mean been so I. Didn't go to cash. Be Make sense that that's such an extraordinary thing to hear doctors say you know you could have been dead this time next way. down. Might as dramatic as off towards you go. What is what he said but taught that you know you can has a say is that type of a freak anybody out particularly hypochondriacs? Anybody who might be failing to I just tired but some not. So know I mean if you look at you. Know I mean it's It's a big. Things God three young kids you know I it felt like this is into somebody else. These things you know these things. Become normalized once they tell you is what we're GONNA do. Is is what it takes. It's not easy. By it's got a very is success rate. And then you go through a process. Mercy. Rate is out in in nineteen, ninety six. Fifty six was there a point in that treatment price. This way you thought I'm turned the corner I am going to get through it. You chain could feel that. You know you have to go dig deep and I have to dig deep You know. There's an old saying I wanted these things it. Comes about is no atheists in a foxhole. You know you. You are up against it. You got to ask questions D. deep down inside your so. And you know. But being zero, one of the. Things about this particularly, I think got even more successful. Cure is his even higher now. Is go through fevers them because they were alive pompey foot, all sorts of. Judicial. Your blood counts zero. So I learned was actually when you get really ill. Kinda let you off your imagination of the hook. So that's the danger point nothing is when you start kind. In full of drugs you know and then you don't think Oh. God. This is a fight you just. Bodies Second? It was going on you know, and then you you mind wandering you but you're always hanging on. The bottom line is. People say, well, our did it. Get it. I mean the thing is is it's It's Missiles of goodwill which are huge amount of. Determination in his may myriad forms and medical expertise. I'm I'm astounded to that people can get through these things through with homeopathy and so forth but there are certain diseases that. You'RE GONNA need the electric ray gun yoga need the bring it. Get it in the big blue bottle and stick it in my. What they did. Several. Times. After going through that with any things in your work or in life beyond work that you wanted to do differently. You know the thing about you can only remind stay of profundity when you don't die for a while. You know that was his it's boring. It's there's no waiting getting around. You know. It's marvelous for a while because when you come through these things without question, I always GonNa go you don't let you off the that quick it's not Oh, you're over skewered. In remission. Five years after his they give you a bit of like where probably some? ELVIS GONNA carpet. Terms, there's no exactly medical but. The inference I got I was saying. But you know you can't. You can't go around being. In a it's lovely to have a period where you sit look at a tree. And his son off. Just, looking at it. I'm thinking that to. Human Nature is such. Moving forward. You go on you. You're doing things you know. Once you get better. There's the there's the luxury of pettiness. Not. Dying, not being an eye of Bondi means you also means you have the luxury of. A boredom occasionally luxury of. Petty behave it when you tease called or things like Flash, you don't care because you. You're basking in the flavor of of those still be here but you know I'm afraid to say from my point of you getting back on with it. You know it's probably a big spiritual questions. Will you ask yourself does that leave? Where does that leave reaching into the infinite? Is it what you do and all that I mean. You know. Of just read the doors possession by Aldous Huxley and I'm raid in. You know just read what the inspiration of is trying to my Edna Tyler that which is the marriage of L. by William, Blake? and. Huxley writes brilliantly about the doors ascension, but he comes to the conclusion that you're going to get much done if you spend fourteen hours staring at the creases in your trousers and find. Wonderful. One thing that you did start doing after going through this life and death scale was. Boats and boating mommy that come onto the pitch fau weird. It was almost again my. Friends would come. And I would say what you? What can I bring you? In a said. Oh it's A. Sudden. Well Josephine. Stay you go what? We will say you don't. Chemo then it better might everything tasted. Awful. Food is just awesome you wanted to eat so. I said, I'd like. Bring me some CDs of Baroque music. Owens and boating magazines I don't know why I had I just. We had been on a canal holiday when China and I I met just as full thing. But it was just all it and I just kept thinking about and I look at these magazines votes in. So, in our eventually. You know when? Things were looking up. said to shine. We're GONNA get two things if from what? We get food is. We're going to get a Rose Royce and we're GONNA, get a boat. To, go. Rolls Royce First. Electric Blues drug-taking. All rolled up there was just A. deathtrap actually. My sister. For a while but usually use it as a run around. You know, I mean, you're not supposed to use. And tried to the. K I didn't die Doi blue route. So what and This. Twenty year old narrow boat, which is canal boat which should. Be kind of much of friend and we just died chugging about on the canals. Absolutely no. I was used to according to remember which side of the Canal you had to be on when I got to but. That progress us. Having Canal boat built another one big one and then we Took that canal boat would y from the Midland's down to London from non an oil. I, ought to your show I mean did so did a huge amount of the inland waterways? And then I add this mad desire to. I think we should go see. Now as it why she's Only fooling in Africa Floyd was different on the I said Yeah. But you know I mean. Obviously you know anyway kept on about it and then she eventually found this. Boat build luckily I was working now the money was coming so. She will found this bill to the makes seagoing. Barges, so Them Princess Mathilde. Bill. we picked it up on the Thames Brentford in West. London and we were GONNA tight that down to the Thames and white down bought them find a pilot to take across the. Channel because that Dino. Seafaring experience. we didn't do that. We one day. We just kind down the Thames. Experience no radio nothing foods. We went down to the bottom of the Thames is a C.. I knew it was these things until you see. This now a great big time. 'cause coming on I thought it should. An antibiotic teething problem that steering what wrong? Mugabe. Round in the mouth of the. Were the me is the medway guy around and around in a circle choice Tilleke me didn't get me but now I'm going to. I mean annoy offer. What the hell am I going to do? What do you do in the Tiller out emergency tinder? It's still wouldn't going around and around and who? Should have dropped anchor out forgotten all about that Matt's flew out the window minority it was it was sown AC-. You Mike Gap. Dental I saw this thing sticking out see the bulk the. Big Mosque, a mosque in three next. Fleet and get over there. We Hook A on and we can white. Anyway. I was GonNa Fuck Congo. You know driftwood on it's. Not GonNa, also, this pilot about these boats coming out of the medway night go and tight the big Tangas up and they bring them in up to the. Tilbury where they unload stuff. A wave them down and they. WanNa poke came up and he said all. Actually, go problem I said Yeah I said, do you know you'll do Indian national soil for distress which is why? Say Well I'm in distress and then He. Of buying this meaty job my legs of jump that jumped on a told me tired is up and he took into this. Loophole the end of the MEDWAY turns out. That's where they'll send us to load up his cannons. You know before we went on this very loud combat if we went to survive ALGA but. This is a patch of fire. So I better learn about. Learn did mariah course and started studying. Charts and never had any lessons. Then we of the wall we decided that we weren't going to go to 'cause I got brave thing because I'd a thought is Whoa it didn't kill me. Crossing the Atlantic well, no. What I'm was we again I thought come out. On a ground and on think the Swale, which is this ditch sometimes the. Ditch between the. Artist. Chevy. How does this is ridiculous so that went back and then I studied the Charles, you know no lessons I started work it out, and then we went literally went out to see done. Right So, we didn't go to France we circumnavigated the hallway of the I. was by sea so and it took us four years on and off. Could dump the boat here. I got to move on. And it up right up in a see, come down his side of written then eventually. I mean starting mice London we took it across the channel and ended up in Sweden. Anymore about five years to get A. Day to get by on Lori. Timothy it's been delightful to speak to you please take out there on the seas probably one game better I I'm there's now some very good apps and not my study in. Yeah I mean things about the. Time. I do I'm scared of it I don't know why I do it. I love it and I'm going to. Tune in painting. Really. Love. It. Thank you so much timothy it's been great to talk A. New Been a pleasure. Listening to conversations. Sarah. On ABC radio. I spoke with Timothy Spall in December two, thousand nineteen, his most recent film is Mrs. Lowry in some Timothy and his wife Shane made a TV series about their adventures on the canal boat the princess. Mathilde. It's called Timothy Spall at sea. Arm, Sarah Ski thanks for Listening You've been listening to a podcast of conversations with Sarah Ascii. 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"Hi i'm steffan. And i work on the witness. Docs marketing team today. We're bringing you a special preview of our latest release. This new show has the same sharp reporting in deep storytelling. That brought you here. Sit back put your headphones in and prepare yourself for the best in nonfiction audio. And while you're at it make sure to follow us on social media at witnessed ox or visit witness. Podcasts dot com for the latest from our network. Thank you and happy listening. They left the town just as they built it and it may well stay that way for the next five hundred years. What are we going to leave behind. What will be left standing when we're no longer here. Our cities our landfills. What will humanity's legacy once we're on on the archipelago of spall bart floating between norway and the north pole and abandoned soviet mining town sits frozen in time and an ice. It's called pyramid like the pyramids and like the pyramids. Scientists believe that this town will be preserved for a long long time thanks to the arctic climate a legacy of sorts and this is obscure a celebration of the world's strange incredible and wondrous places today revisiting this ghost town out there under the northern lights way out in the middle of the arctic sea who built pyramid and. Why did they leave fall barred. Chances are pretty good. You'll run into a reindeer before you find another person. Swale bard is an archipelago made up of nine islands and it sits at a crossroads greenland of the west russia to the east scandinavia to the south and the vast expanse of the arctic ocean to the north for centuries no nation on earth had officially claimed the island so sailors from all over freely. Use it as a base normally was finally granted it in one thousand nine hundred ninety but then they left it open to other countries for development. And that's where the soviets came in they came to the town in nineteen twenty seven named it for the pyramid shaped mountain visible in the distance and they started mining and it was a a contract tone Most of the people were there for like two years. Perhaps for that's hainburg for years. He was norway's cultural heritage officer. For this fall barred region though pyramid was built up with many of the same drab block style buildings of the motherland it was far more than just a charmless gulag. The town is full of interesting things to see. And i think person from from the west would surely noticed this difference. It had plush movie house it boasted. The world's northernmost grand piano and most notably it had a tavern decorated with more than five thousand empty colorful glass bottles. Do they have the greenhouse with partly and onions and salad and many of those fresh thinks it was quite impressive. How they manage to to have that kind of a system going there with growing food up in barren norc. It was kind of self sufficient society very little was disposed of in the garbage and most of the garbage was organic into composed and was fed to the animals. The being chickens. So it's quite impressive. Ho ho then make this not because they were primarily occupy the environment. But because it paid to do that way and then one day just like that. There are no human beings there at all the code russian code money money company. They they quit in nineteen ninety eight. At that time there was nobody there. It's abrupt process. Of course it has to do with soviet union that was sold in might denied this. They speeded up the process. So we didn't know from one year after a next that they will actually going to be to be gone so we are a bit surprised. Remember determined mer left for eight years and you know it was how seabirds have moved in and make nests all the window sills and then it was dusty and the paint and he's describing what pyramid and looked like when he went back there in two thousand and six and the they were polar bears. We could see the tracks in the mud. In different parts of town polar bears patrolling the empty streets. Rummaging in the empty rooms it was all still there the piano. The bar the theater just the people are missing unless you count the statue of vladimir lenin who presides over the otherwise empty streets of pyramid the walls there is this calendars and their across the the days counted down to these two years for over and they should go back and they pictures on the boards of ed thinks that were knocked in parents but dogs now is rivers and woods and you can sense the longing for ukraine and rescue where those people come from. They have kids and the relatives. Isolation isolationist has been taking its toll. I think these days after nearly twenty years in the dark pure million. It's once again home to people this time. It's tourists now minors. The town is accessible for visits between may and october. It has armed guards to protect against polar bears. And there's even a hotel retrofitted from one of the soviet bloc buildings there also permanent residents six people who tend to the tourists including one metalhead who deemed himself the world's most northern head banger but traveling to pyramid and remains a difficult trip. You have to take a flight from oslo to fall barred and then you can get there by boat in the summer or snowmobile in the winter but the trip may be worth it. It's essentially time travel and untouched portal into a pass that no longer exists or to a future yet to come. The alice obscure podcast is out now. Four days a week. Monday through thursday. You'll get a brand new episode. No longer than fifteen minutes. A new wonder everyday subscribe on stitcher apple. Podcast pandora or wherever you listen witnessed from stitcher.
Witness Docs Presents: The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"Hi i'm steffan. And i work on the witness. Docs marketing team today. We're bringing you a special preview of our latest release. This new show has the same sharp reporting in deep storytelling. That brought you here. Sit back put your headphones in and prepare yourself for the best in nonfiction audio. And while you're at it make sure to follow us on social media at witnessed ox or visit witness. Podcasts dot com for the latest from our network. Thank you and happy listening. They left the town just as they built it and it may well stay that way for the next five hundred years. What are we going to leave behind. What will be left standing when we're no longer here. Our cities our landfills. What will humanity's legacy once we're on on the archipelago of spall bart floating between norway and the north pole and abandoned soviet mining town sits frozen in time and an ice. It's called pyramid like the pyramids and like the pyramids. Scientists believe that this town will be preserved for a long long time thanks to the arctic climate a legacy of sorts and this is obscure a celebration of the world's strange incredible and wondrous places today revisiting this ghost town out there under the northern lights way out in the middle of the arctic sea who built pyramid and. Why did they leave fall barred. Chances are pretty good. You'll run into a reindeer before you find another person. Swale bard is an archipelago made up of nine islands and it sits at a crossroads greenland of the west russia to the east scandinavia to the south and the vast expanse of the arctic ocean to the north for centuries no nation on earth had officially claimed the island so sailors from all over freely. Use it as a base normally was finally granted it in one thousand nine hundred ninety but then they left it open to other countries for development. And that's where the soviets came in they came to the town in nineteen twenty seven named it for the pyramid shaped mountain visible in the distance and they started mining and it was a a contract tone Most of the people were there for like two years. Perhaps for that's hainburg for years. He was norway's cultural heritage officer. For this fall barred region though pyramid was built up with many of the same drab block style buildings of the motherland it was far more than just a charmless gulag. The town is full of interesting things to see. And i think person from from the west would surely noticed this difference. It had plush movie house it boasted. The world's northernmost grand piano and most notably it had a tavern decorated with more than five thousand empty colorful glass bottles. Do they have the greenhouse with partly and audience and salad and many of those fresh thinks it was quite impressive. How they manage to to have that kind of a system going there with growing food up in barren norc. It was kind of self sufficient society very little was disposed of in the garbage and most of the garbage was organic into composed and was fed to the animals. The being chickens. So it's quite impressive. Ho ho then make this not because they were primarily occupy the environment. But because it paid to do that way and then one day just like that. There are no human beings there at all the code russian code money money company. They they quit in nineteen ninety eight. At that time there was nobody there. It's abrupt pro south. Of course it has to do with soviet union that was sold in might denied this. They speeded up the process. So we didn't know from one year a next that they will actually going to be to be gone so we are a bit surprised. Remember determined mer left for eight years and you know it was how seabirds have moved in and make nests in all the window sills and then it was dusty and the paint and he's describing what pyramid and looked like when he went back there in two thousand and six and the they were polar bears. We could see the tracks in the mud. In different parts of town polar bears patrolling the empty streets. Rummaging in the empty rooms it was all still there the piano. The bar the theater just the people are missing unless you count the statue of vladimir lenin who presides over the otherwise empty streets of the walls there is this calendars and their across the the days counted down to these two years for over and they should go back and they pictures on the boards of ed thinks that were knocked in parents but dogs now is rivers and woods and you can sense the longing for ukraine and rescue where those people come from. They have kids and the relatives. Isolation isolationist has been taking its toll. I think these days after nearly twenty years in the dark pure million. It's once again home to people this time. It's tourists now minors. The town is accessible for visits between may and october. It has armed guards to protect against polar bears. And there's even a hotel retrofitted from one of the soviet bloc buildings there also permanent residents six people who tend to the tourists including one metalhead who deemed himself the world's most northern head banger but traveling to pyramid and remains a difficult trip. You have to take a flight from oslo to fall barred and then you can get there by boat in the summer or snowmobile in the winter but the trip may be worth it. It's essentially time travel and untouched portal into a pass that no longer exists or to a future yet to come. The alice obscure podcast is out now. Four days a week. Monday through thursday. You'll get a brand new episode. No longer than fifteen minutes. A new wonder everyday subscribe on stitcher apple. Podcast pandora or wherever you listen witnessed from stitcher.
Witness Docs Presents: The Atlas Obscura Podcast
"Hi i'm steffan. And i work on the witness. Docs marketing team today. We're bringing you a special preview of our latest release. This new show has the same sharp reporting in deep storytelling. That brought you here. Sit back put your headphones in and prepare yourself for the best in nonfiction audio. And while you're at it make sure to follow us on social media at witnessed talks or visit witness. Podcasts dot com for the latest from our network. Thank you and happy listening. They left the town just as they built it and it may well stay that way for the next five hundred years. What are we going to leave behind. What will be left standing when we're no longer here. Our cities our landfills. What will humanity's legacy once we're on on the archipelago of spall bart floating between norway and the north pole and abandoned soviet mining town sits frozen in time and an ice. It's called pyramid like the pyramids and like the pyramids. Scientists believe that this town will be preserved for a long long time thanks to the arctic climate a legacy of sorts and this is obscure a celebration of the world's strange incredible and wondrous places today revisiting this ghost town out there under the northern lights way out in the middle of the arctic sea who built pyramid and. Why did they leave fall barred. Chances are pretty good. You'll run into a reindeer before you find another person. Swale bard is an archipelago made up of nine islands and it sits at a crossroads greenland of the west russia to the east scandinavia to the south and the vast expanse of the arctic ocean to the north for centuries no nation on earth had officially claimed the island so sailors from all over freely. Use it as a base normally was finally granted it in one thousand nine hundred ninety but then they left it open to other countries for development. And that's where the soviets came in they came to the town in nineteen twenty seven named it for the pyramid shaped mountain visible in the distance and they started mining and it was a a contract tone Most of the people were there for like two years. Perhaps for that's hainburg for years. He was norway's cultural heritage officer. For this fall barred region though pyramid was built up with many of the same drab block style buildings of the motherland it was far more than just a charmless gulag. The town is full of interesting things to see. And i think person from from the west would surely noticed this difference. It had plush movie house it boasted. The world's northernmost grand piano and most notably it had a tavern decorated with more than five thousand empty colorful glass bottles. Do they have the greenhouse with partly and onions and salad and many of those fresh thinks it was quite impressive. How they manage to to have that kind of a system going there with growing food up in barren norc. It was kind of self sufficient society very little was disposed of in the garbage and most of the garbage was organic into composed and was fed to the animals. The being chickens. So it's quite impressive. Ho ho then make this not because they were primarily occupy the environment. But because it paid to do that way and then one day just like that. There are no human beings there at all the code russian code money money company. They they quit in nineteen ninety eight. At that time there was nobody there. It's abrupt process. Of course it has to do with the union that was sold in might denied this. They speeded up the process. So we didn't know from one year a next that they will actually going to be to be gone so a bit surprised. Remember determined mer left for eight years and you know it was how seabirds have moved in and make nests in all the window sills and then it was dusty and the paint and he's describing what pyramid and looked like when he went back there in two thousand and six and the polar bears. We could see the tracks in the mud in different parts of town polar bears patrolling the empty streets. Rummaging in the empty rooms it was all still there the piano. The bar the theater just the people are missing unless you count the statue of vladimir lenin who presides over the otherwise empty streets of pyramid the walls there is this calendars and their across the the days counted down to these two years for over and they should go back and they pictures on the boards of ed thinks that were knocked in parents but dogs now is rivers and woods and you can sense the longing for ukraine and rescue where those people come from. They have kids and the relatives. 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Tim Spall plays Lowry, artists in movies, Chris Ofili and Jasmine Thomas-Girvan
"The newspaper put coast is brought to you in association with bonhams auctioneers since seventeen ninety three to find out more visit bottoms dot com and welcome to the first in the new series of the art newspaper. He's paper podcast. I'm ben luke this week. We look at a unique collaboration between two artists based in trinidad the british born painter chrissa feely and the jamaican-born sculptor jasmine thomas musk irvine but first artist on film at the end of august a._g. Noble film mrs larry and son arrived in u._k. Cinemas subject is the relationship ship between the painter. Ls lowry played by timothy spall and his mother played by vanessa redgrave. This is not the first time that timothy spall has played a popular british artist in two thousand fourteen fourteen. He started might lead epic buyer of jam. W turner called mr turner. Tim came to the studio in august to discuss larry and the intimate yet fraught relationship captured captured in noblesville. Ls lowry coming from the milk is confusing an appears to have been painted a child which is an insult to the people of location listen. Mr denton is not impressed. Laurie decrees they don't where is it chooses. Hallway painting swollen industrial seems nobody wants to buy the hobby tim mrs larry johnson began as a radio play then became a stage production and now it's a film what how did you first encounter it well. I had no idea about the first two i just encountered as a script <hes> which was sent to me <hes> which are which are read an i immediately <hes> <hes> was intrigued by an enthralled by <hes> so i had no idea at a theatrical history or radio history so <hes> <hes> uh-huh i read it. I was aware of lowry obviously and in a sense everybody mind the imbibed it through much enticing think i'm various things but so i was when i read it. It made me that sense to me. <hes> it made me wanna be march wjr to investigate him and the work. Tell me about how that process happened because it went straight up to to the lowry and soul burden and started to look at the paintings yeah white. You didn't like it was going to become a reality thing is about independent films they they present it to disappear so when it started to look like <hes> reality i went straight up unspent five or six hours is staring paintings altogether was there wasn't any many people there went on announced so i didn't get guarded to. I'm dumb. I just you know immediately. Heatedly started to see something in it particularly in the light of having read the piece that there was something very very much more interesting in the original received an. I don't want to speak for other people but i think i'll deeper artists than i understood before that you know i think one of the things about lowry is this an apparent simplicity about his work and indeed there is a very there's a real simplicity about the script to a certain degree but it has rather like larry's he's working has hidden hidden debts indeed there is an apparent simplicity about him and about his work but has he's one of the expert biographers reservation so said of him he is the most complex simple man i've ever met in my life <hes> and that is in a sense. I want you start to look at the work. <hes> the knowledge of what made him contributed to his character you seat there is a there is a lot more going on does <hes> you know and the relationship that this film explores which is the incredibly close <hes> some might even say abusive relationship. He has with his mother kind of informed as well <hes>. There's there's a you know an <hes> the difficulties of this kind of mutual reliability on each other in this <hes> and this tension between looking after somebody being enthralled to somebody's every need emotional and physical requirement armant wanting to please them and the one thing that you'll deeply talented or have your own <hes> personal thing to offer the thing that you do for that person and that thing rather than pleased person actually offends them might shoe. Mike's won't mike stern duty-bound to take to try and stop doing what you're quite brutal moments in the in the philmont they wish where larry's mother tells him reads back to him some very severe criticism for instance and it's it's you can tell this is this is i guess the the difficult difficult thing for an actor to pull off his neetu to capture the feelings of the man as his mother reads horrific criticism back yeah <hes> that is true and it and it would have been an in the film is prime full but it's a lifetime of it in a sense <hes> what she's is doing in defensive her what she's trying to do is protect him from himself. She doesn't want him to embarrass himself and therefore <hes> mainly probably her because <hes> you know the story explains in the telling of it that they will bow down somewhat slightly ah in status social status by the fact that her father to move that to move to a poor part magister so old of his work the paintings eh does the compel the compulsion has to paint these to her ugly grim dotty pictures of their local environment constantly remind her of the state. She's in not only that but the fact that she thinks they're not very very good and they're actually badly painted <hes> so she's you know he. He's in this impossible position really where you know. He was occur. He was hook era literally was that's the modern term he was. He was he he would collect rent and would die in the arms. He worked for a state agents. Always lifetime company you went round the streets collecting the rent <hes> for that real estate estate company that stages <hes> an it would come home cookies mother's t make sure she was fine. He would sit with the only evening they would talk about the day he would make sure she was comfortable. <hes> he would then when she spoke to a she went to sleep go up into his attic pint now that was his life collecting rent looking his mother painting a few friends that was <hes> but up in that selo was his private life up in his up in his attic. Was that private life that that place where this situation nation he was in where he'd been in self <hes> pretty much loathed the area when they when they moved there when not to go there <hes> didn't like it the toll on and shared his parents dislike of it but there was one particular day where he says he had an epiphany and he started to see see something in it and was compelled to record it unto paint it and so once that had got him and he knew do that that would be that would make him a have his own authorship is own signature artist once that <hes> seed was planted in his chest it grew and grew and grew through a not is the work that we now <hes> know him from this. This letter plays a hugely important role in the film. Isn't there this letter from london gallery yes. It has no sort of magical significant in the story. Doesn't it does yeah you you see him receiving this letter a. making phone calls at the beginning it's mysterious and then guatemala on you. You seem reading it. <hes> i'm being incredibly credibly touched a move excited <hes> over the moon because it's an affirmation somebody at last is life <music> inch fifties early fifties. Somebody had lost seen something in his work and gets it. They get not only is the work. Look <hes> original. It is also not <hes> representative. It's not painting. It's not pictorial representation of what you're seeing. It's actually <hes> ah compensate a feeling something that's much more <hes> <hes> profound than just purely landscape painting on iota onto that but of course he's going to tell his mother is also offering impossibly an exhibition in london but he knows this is a very very serious prospect to give to his mother because he thinks she possibly will take <hes> a good view of it and be proud but it also knows that somewhere on the line is gonna suffer and it's true exactly what happens happens one of the things i'm struck by in the films that you grounded you'll depiction of him very much in sort of documentary film of him talking so there is a sort of sense of you've inhabiting that character based on the real depiction of him in in documentaries <hes> you know but but at the same time you have to invent this emotional world world which we don't really have any documentary access to know i did i <hes> there's not much <hes> footage of him actually speaking as footage of a mocking about <hes> quite a lot as a wonderful fifteen minute film made in nineteen fifty three brilliant didn't film <hes> an but that's a lot of his im- talking. It's got a lot of them. <hes> speaking you know just <hes> recorded but but <hes> <hes> authority you know when i saw him physically or is much to one of the main difference to me but there was something about his loping <unk> gates slightly awkward <hes> slightly gangly a sort of <hes> <hes> actually achieve walked a bit like pluto in <hes> i in the disney i was a sort of <hes> ungainly and in his mother a <hes> <hes> decision you you get the sense that he was a big sort of lumbering boy the she was an offer lumped was rather sort it didn't grow out to be the suit of refined creature. That was the child she bowl up to be in a that was another insult to injury of his paintings. The fact that he was this sort of mildly the story as ever. It's true in the film is that he was she was mildly embarrassed by them and there is extent material sign nine. You know she had a difficult birth with him. She was a natural born invalid. He was trained <hes> <hes> baja <hes> when he was young to go around with a still in case you have swooned. He was prepared a pad so when you do that when you're four you you know you you're gonna live with your parents or your life and never intimate relationship with a man or a woman or anything the own that your last year not to state so he grew up being totally enthralled to her every requirement and he did. It willingly sounds like a cruelty but these this was his life. This is our this is how he he's you know he did his duty but this is where he goes love and this was the only intimate <hes> in exchange of <hes> unconditional however difficult she was that he got so i think i think this mutual <hes> this this this this <hes> relationship as difficult as it was for for him was important also important because she was a stubborn difficult woman and as a query quiet pau pau him that he has inherited which manifest itself in sticking to the compulsion of having two point right what she doesn't like in a sense that a slight. I'm there's a revolt in that against her as well. I think as as as a prevously against that incarceration of that relationship that possibly held onto is an inspiration now and also the double the the jamaa the sort of terrible paradox of one in a place. Somebody know what you're doing isn't knowing innocent. You have to do it. An innocence is so personal is the only thing that you've got you can hang onto so talk about simple but complex in that is amazing is in them and i think when you look at the work that emotional pull on that that that kind of unusual paradox is in those paintings findings ariza simplicity but it was also a real emotion as a kind of is it gonna bleak beauty in them that represents his own in domestic life as well <hes>. It's difficult to talk about buffalo sewn into the highfaluting a little bit but i see in that work. It might be just because i've spent a ton delvin excavating psychology but i think it's in those paintings. That's what makes them far more interesting getting injustice quaint pictorial representations of a decaying industrial powerhouse theirself portrays. It's as far as i'm concerned and not the people the people are less like him but from the few self-portraits nev- not many of them but the people the buildings a much more representative of him if you can put a person in the building which i think you can and he says there's a line in the film where he where he suggests the new dose every brick. He's me yeah i that i think was probably one of the things that struck me and i might that connection <hes> from from that into the work once you see that the that these buildings <hes> alive as well with that and why the juxtaposed against against relevant one another as far almos- almost mystic -cation in the painting that it seems what you start looking at them as well the collar choice way intermingle mingo him what he does. We've simple but china perspective and so on and so forth i it's it's a lot more other sites simple uncomplicated uncomplicate it at the sign is a total contradiction. Some of the mice path will scenes in the film although he's really intimate moments between mother and son the sorta tender moments and then i think really brought home to me that i was watching was it performance by the u._n. And vanessa redgrave tell me what it's like to act alongside her. I am especially someone must you're obviously aware of this numerous reputation. The sector has and oh yeah no. I'd been a huge it is and what you know work for years and i always a huge instead. I'm because he's works to fight of a father's father's la loved in i love samara graven work <hes> and so it was really really you know i was delighted using apply it an- and she's very very <hes> determined amaury determined to might've the pot around and to to make it <hes> completely grounded within the emotion of it and also to pursue it it totally from that woman's point of view so you know to show she she never back making a as difficult this demanding and as as monsters oman of but also i think what she managed to doing. It is should give this to listen to sympathy and as well because you realized that this is a deeply unhappy woman a woman. That's you know almost sort of live the ever in this massive disappointment appointment you know we've with life we've sons chosen job assumption ability to rise above and and <hes> you know this this it's it's a real wonderful to work with because we actually you know we each day. We felt we with trying out. Some new lively look at the script was discussing break it down and try and bring some things to that were ah sometimes not on the page there were underneath the underneath the emotion <hes> also oversee when as is always the case when people can be really pretty horrible to someone at an an even know they're doing can be very funny and i think there is quite a lot of humor. When when i saw in edinburgh people laughed a lot how unreasonable it was an how <hes> outrageous summer things he said were in a and i'm i'm. I'm really into you talked about scripts. There and i'm really interested in how this experience playing larry compared to you. Experience a plane j m w turner and might leesville <hes> <hes> because obviously lee has a very famously. 'em collaborative way of working with actors. This film had very much more of a script to begin with. How how do you compare those two experiences well. You can't really because you spent you know when you work on film with mike he spend spend at least six months <hes> lying down the bones and preparing it a because you start with nothing. Don't even stop the idea unless it's going to be based on tournament topsy-turvy. They only two films on pizza lou now <hes> the only films are about things. You've actually happened. <hes> it's even then you start with absolutely nothing with turn and we just thought this is going to be a film about her. That's it nothing so then. The whole process is about building up. Those characters improvises autism about this now is the time to about it about but that the film film is made through the process of earth and then carrying on through an improvised station and so on through into the actual making day-by-day day-by-day slice by slice now obviously with this that takes six months for about five months to shoot a year this this you start over scripts and then you have about four or five weeks to do it which we did. We made it from rehearsal tweeden about think five or six weeks and then of course is the the <hes> it's a pre production before that and then the editing and so on it's over tyson free four months after that but <hes> you don't have the time to prepare ann coulter code build it so therefore you have to bring a lot to it. You know you have to think a lot about it on one of the things i i can t learnt right from stove working. Mike lee was the was that about the importance of research about thinking around the media thing about you know the background of someone's life. Whatever like no particularly like whenever a child i always i think about that what they were like. They were child <hes> full all of the slices of sophistication built them up to become <hes> you know adults <hes> and so you know innocence the sign different because you're still in your still still trying to you know there's no script with mightly and then you get a film but even the film is only six seven eight probably just dot org. That's just book you know pay and then you go to nine a movie so it's the an group load of people come together sound you and camera in costume everything in an it's. It's always <hes> every time i do who feels like a complete leap of faith however secure. They still like this group of people. Come tom with the notion of turn in this these sixty pages into something that people are gonna you know possibly their pocket god see gina cinema and that's a big responsibility a nobody and i'm lucky to have worked or not so films. Nobody does anything. I have a good time. The font nobody is anything other than dedicated and devoted to join mike that work and a not so great. It's always great when you were group of people coming together to do it sounds on state in the office but is not really you know it's it's such a weird thing you know an as has to a large or lesser degree when you think you take a massive blockbuster like like one of the marvel the <hes> <hes> you know the superhero. It's still only not is still an underpaid is a script steininger a lot. <hes> you know a bus this two hundred million dollars. You know <hes> two hundred billion dollars in the box office but much smaller but it's the same process. It's just a difference. It's just telling stories stories from a script cameras and sound ultimately pay tim. Thank you so much on the book cosa pleasure. Mrs larry johnson is in selected u._k. Cinemas now so what role do art historians play in bringing these historical artists to the screen jacqueline riding a historical and art historical consultant on mr turner and work with might me again on twenty eighteen eighteen peterloo a study at the magic fifteen people in manchester in eighteen nineteen user wrote the related book about the peterloo massacre. She joins me now jackie what does not consultant on a film do. I don't know what people normally do but people work on a mike leigh film do a lot you're involved from the onset with turn of for example mr turner we already reading books about turnabout griffey's exhibition catalogues logs going away thinking about it <hes> and when mike started develop ideas and which aspects of turner's live he was interested in we would then burrow in but it's it's. It's everything from reading two and a half years before the <hes> you know somebody shelves cut. That's the final thing in on the sheet is two and a half years of working from the biographies right way through the detail to to the final count or was he might be has a very particular process doesn't he. Can you tell us something about that. Yes he. There's no script so what he has is a sort of as i say you start off thinking through reading general books on turner reading more specific books on turner on people that he was friends with his associates at the royal academy like unthinking stop building up a big grand picture and then you start to borrow in and that's when this sort of narrative narrative arc is created look blow by blow scene by scene generally what's happening in saying and this sort of narrative arc say <hes> and then you're also working with the actors what is so once. It's been cast you as a historian art historian your soul also helping to narrow down the characters that will be cast and then you start working with the actors so there's hersal period for mr turner rehearsal period five six months so you're working one to one with the actors or you're working in groups. It's so royal cat emissions for example <hes> and then he starts working with the actors as well so once they start at rehearsal period. He's starting to work one-to-one with them on their characters actors and it's all very organic and based on research from what they've raising. My thoughts are about the characters. We'll honing going on <hes> but the is still about character writer much more than anything else and then once you've got the narrative arc. You've got your characters. You've got your actors even turn up to set he then starts improvising and improvisation start getting honed down <hes> and then as those are getting honed-down. There's more detail added it sort of you know sort of rehearsed another eventually you have your scene and you have your dialogue and your action and then it shot on the set and you move to the next set do exactly the same process over again so it's very much which <hes> and as everybody there is not just the actors me for example sitting through rehearsals and the improvisations and so you've got some members from the heads of department in a costume makeup rule there any notes says mike offer. There's been a run through and everyone sort of says they can make observations about the language which in my case or what's happened in what they're saying what needs to be said and so on and then that's that's the process right the way through to the final the final scene scene say the because they have to keep these characters so completely so so much so that they can improvise in great detail as a historical character to the grounding that you'll giving them has to be immensely detailed. Doesn't it and i was intrigued to read that one of the current t._c. Who plays a relatively minor role in the film actually read the ph d thesis of an expert in that particular painter so you have a really granular isn't it. I'm sure all actors would take to this type of research which i mean intense research like ducks to water mike as he says he mike says he works with intelligent actors so he obviously works that his wall thrilled at being given this wonderful space and time to immerse in the character in the period and so on and these guys are amazing all the all his actors. I've worked with are extraordinary and they i love it and they end up some of them end up. Be a minor character. They end up being the world experts on that minor character because they sometimes there's a lot of information on turner. When we went to the role academy for example to the archive <hes> all the academy missions that were actors playing academy missions. They thought the boxes out for them for their specific character character for the artist and turn was at one end of the table which is about fifteen po box files and he went right down the line by constable and versus other people. We've heard of robertson and then got to the far end. That is one boxer leconte. Remember the name of the artist but they just opened up the box while in it said there's nothing on this all six months <hes> so yes so in that instance that immersion is record because they're so little on these artists so as an art historian is quite astonishing rushing. You sort of you start to realize how relatively limited knowledge of british art is in this in this instance in this particular instance with british art how narrow our understanding of the late eighteenth early nineteenth century is you had to prepare of course for the domestic situation of turner's life and i was intrigued week to read how much you had basically had to go into in terms off the food that would have been prepared for him because it was such a crucial narrative in the film is he's domestic circumstance. Yes i mean these sort of the beating heart that runs through the film is of course his his private circumstances assist whether it be with hamdam bill whether it's mrs booth and obviously essentially his father. That's the crux relationship. His father is very much the mother and the father of of turner and yes so every aspect every detail of but home life whether it's his studio or his kitchen or his bedroom in has to be dealt into looked at so so that that says i say that's the the key strand that runs through the whole film whether he's venturing off to north wales or he's at the royal academy economy in the thing that the threat holds the film together is in fact his domestic life and going back to the idea of minor characters <hes> having obviously it's a mightly film so he's bound to focusing on relationships and so on <hes> those two women those key women in turn as life is so little on them that in fact you know the two actresses became world world experts almost two characters as well so merriam bailey who plays mrs booth went to the british library and started listening to really old recordings of kentish folk and picked atop some fabulous local dialects dialect. That's now died gone completely <hes> and <hes> and also went to dover to see where mrs booth came from tried to delve into the husband's her previous husbands life and and that sort of brings such a richness to her character and i think in all instances with all the actors i think you there's a lot of research but i think what you see is the tip of the iceberg because the research should be worn lightly it. Hopefully you're not feeling your being told that this all this information about this character is being worn lightly and it's as if you are looking in hearing the actual historical character role nectar playing that card and of course the important detail in mr turner is that we are watching artists nichols tim's booth therefore had to learn how to paint and in fact in on your website you can see you got some stills of of teams version of snowstorm in harbour mouth which is one of the great works but turn. Tim learnt paint with tim wright who is a mania portrait painter. I think he didn't mind me saying that <hes> but <hes> he spent two years learning how to paint he went and he did a kind of a year of art training he went from drawing figure walking around the studio and still lives pot dead birds not the usual stuff. If you've done your art exactly the toughest thing is always in studio or an art school and then he went right the way through and as you say he ends up doing oh a fabulous for his own version of snowstorms steamboat over harbour's mouth actually extraordinarily where he got to the heart and soul of turner we actually had at an exhibition that pet with house which of course was one of the says it was on the key sets in the film and <hes> had an exhibition of <hes> costume but also some of the ah items from the set the props accenture but also a run of images by by tim showing you the progression that those two years over those two years how amazing mazing the progression was to begin to imitate turner and when you see him on screen. You're not really seeing him doing a lot in the painting way but when you see him doing the painting you believe he knows exactly what he's doing whether it's painting a very fine precise horizontal line or whether he's doing that sort of fabulous sorta varnishing wanting day slip slap all over staffer. He's wonderful painting of staffer <hes> whether he's doing that he d sort of feel these he somebody who's in control of that brush in the oil oil oil painting sounds so that's that's the key to it. He's got you feel that that is turner of course they're all sorts of myths developed about turned china through his life and what i thought was clever about. Mr turn was that the film was able to sort of address. Yes the the ideas of terms life old arkansas preconceptions perhaps about turner and and also some of the kind of criticisms of turner's disorder slapdash painter intere- in so in a way he means of encapsulating both the sort of reality of his presence but also some of the debates about hamden his own time. I think that's done. I think he's done very subtly and i think i mean you've said that you felt. It was very impressive. The way it's done and i think it is it brings art historical discussion to bed <hes> without being. I think too heavy handed about it. You have artists talking about art about claude lorraine you ruskin oviously so artists bound to history. All hit theories bound to come into it but i think again. It's all done in a way that's very comprehensible for a much broader audience turned his life was actually relatively uneventful. There's there's no wrangler moment. There's cussing from in the air or you know he's he suffers what other people suffer the death of apparent and so on and he has his highs and lows professionally only but they're mainly highs. I think there's not as highly successful british artist <hes> but i think that that role of the life from vignette to vignette as it were. I think <unk> create something that's much bigger than the sum of his parts has the way that you research altered as a result of researching for a film as opposed for as opposed to book. I think i've learned a lot working with mike because i think it's all that that thing about the devil being in the detail or at least know the detail is even if mike ignore it. He wants wants to know the detail. He wants to know what he thinks happened. What we think happened what probably happened and then he can make us would have considered decision but ultimately is not work not not a documentary and song as a historian. It's it's made me really concentrate on character on on describing individuals as opposed to just saying turner walked into the room and and delivered his lecture and then we left when you worked on the film and you had to show that you've had to actually animate that and filling all the details from what sitting sitting behind him what diagrams are actually sitting behind him while he's delivering the lecture. What does the podium look like was. He dressed in. Who's there will sort of audience is there. You suddenly realize realized there is there's a lot to that detail. It's wonderful. It really does bring history and history alive so i'm very much you know more live to character narrative narrative descriptions of period and place much more so than perhaps you might think you should be but <hes> but it's it's just it is animating history and i think you can once you worked on the film because it's so visual obviously your your reenacting history on june the way that it you can't help as a visual person you you can't help but think about it and then almost describe what you're seeing in your head you know almost if you're watching film and describing it so i think that sort of freedom that sort of creative freedom freedom is wonderful obviously historians and art historians. We have to have our foot news. We have to sort of you know you make it up in the film you can you have the right to do so. It's not work <hes> but i think you know i think a bit more flexibility a bit more all sorts of hanging out a bit more than i think a little a little less uptight and having been more fun with history history in that sense. I think something i've certainly learned were working with mike batt phrase of mike. It's a it's not a documentary in an artwork. It's a film and hopefully it's entertainment as well does. Walkway not fina you've been bashed over the head in al history lesson that in fact you have enjoyed enjoyed what you've seen. A piece of humanity piece of life played out in front of you but it's interesting because i imagine as a historian. They must have been moments. That's where well you told me. Were there moments where the artistic license felt like it was creeping in the wrong direction now as i say no you'll there to provide lied all the information that mike ask for and sometimes stuff. He hasn't asked for <hes> but ultimately it's. It's mike's decision now. You know i could occasionally stamped my little ought historical foot <hes> but ultimately it's it's it's my decision and actually might surround himself with people he trusts so if you do who occasionally stamp your little foot you know he is going to pause and listen to you and then say well. Actually i've heard what you said but we're doing it this way and that's it. That's your job to do. <hes> now in in the context of peterloo which is the most recent film of worked on. I had the wonderful opportunity to actually produce a book after having worked on the film say whatever little art historical stamping feet i might have had joined the course of the filming in in a sense i was able to express my own version version as it were of the history through the book. So i had kind of win win. From that point so lastly i know you rossi book and accusing commission about hogarth the most famous oh you sorta prodding maclean in that general direction send him a couple little nudges through the post <hes> who knows if mike ever wanted to do a mr a hogarth that'd be great <hes> but yes the focus at the moment is the exhibition ambition the foundling which is on hogarth jacobite painting so on march vinci obviously because it's the founding but also carry gate lord laverton let coming juicy see sort of political civil war stuff and also biography of william hogarth which should be out in january twenty twenty one turkey. Thank you so much. She joined us. My pleasure might lease mr turner is available to buy or rent on. I tunes and at other streaming services or of course on blu ray and d._v._d. Peterloo is available to stream on amazon prime and also to rent or buy there and elsewhere swear jacqueline writings peter lu- the story of the manchester massacre is published by head of zeus and his eight pounds nine thousand nine. If you're listening to this on the sixth or september and in london is a free screening and discussion between jackie mightly at eight britain this evening. Take dot org you kate for all the details we'll be back with jasmine thomas gervin and christophe elite after this people spend the first of january two thousand nursing sore head but look so banksie the artist he was at that time more or less unknown began to decorate a vast lorry that belonged to a circus troupe. It took him two weeks to finish and for the next few years the traveled around the world covered with a distinctive about work of flying monkeys red stars and a monumental male figures with your hamma indeed featuring many of the images calling the social anneke that have been central to his work since it's now the work turbos own truck laugh now but one day will be in charge will be offered bombs motorcar sale the goodwood revival option on forty two september with trump will be on the block look amongst the pupils and bentleys with estimate of one to one point five million as well taylor bonham's global head of post-war temporary out said the composition based on the format matz. This pill is john carter is thrilled to have the opportunity to continue offering the best work that as done consistently for well over a decade find that more visit bombed dot com welcome back now christophe won the turner prize in nine hundred ninety eight and represented britain at the venice biennale in two thousand thousand three but a major shift in his career came when he moved to trinidad permanently in two thousand five he'd been visiting the caribbean island since two thousand and one of the artists met there was jasmine jasmine thomas girvan who was then predominantly making jewelry their friendship has declined over the years and now they're showing their work together at david's verner gallery in london the latest in many shows a fetus had in the u._k. Capital but thomas kevin's very first exhibition in the u._k. I went to the gallery to meet them. Did you start talking talking about each other's work to each other at a particular point. We just worked <hes>. I think probably still the same now in in this conversation with between those is happening in gallery rather than between those two talking about each work and i think the something <hes> special that things can happen in that way i think office in general girl confined quite challenging to articulate some of the more the true core what the work is about really i mean we can talk materials and how did he do that and i liked that but to actually get the essence of what works about it takes time and i think maybe it's a false it in a way where we sit down and actually trying to talk about things i enjoy being relatively non ass- i'm when trinidad l. so so don't think so much work that didn't make much work when i first against trinidad and it was an opportunity to what i say make things that can fail in a way so that you can figure out what boundaries on limits are at the time with any work. So what did that anonymity that you talk about. Give you in in trinidad for both of you so i we. I'm jim econ. Dan and we were due to internet foot won a four years and we decided to stay because <hes> when you don't belong to a place it doesn't pulled onto your league claim to you and it gives you the space to to do what you're supposed to do which is to work and dumb so we trish anatomy stayed. I think i think the i think from events interested in that way people talk put my finger on it but i think sometimes sometimes get the feeling that people actually quite nonchalant about the idea of <hes> success related to notoriety i am i think people are very encouraging of of achievement bu- notoriety isn't so <hes> i don't know people. Don't people levy be right right and i am like that very much. Trinidad and i never feel crowded out really in a way that i might in other places and i think the nature of what i i do and i i think i think what what i understand what jasmine does is to be able to have that physical space but also creates if mine space space to be able to evolve really with <hes> with the whipple so evolve person through work. One of the crucial evolutions of your work jasmine in has been the evolution from jewelry into sculpture and installation. Can you tell me a bit about how your work developed over time in trinidad <hes> i think that the landscape has <hes> delivered many materials that previously were on familiar that have then <hes> allowed me to to stretch the work and what i mean by that i use a lot of natural materials and some of them <hes> have been a lot larger in scale than the materials used before and so it's been a very organic process <hes> i incorporate some of the meta smith thing and see what's excuse day hab but i have basically <hes> <hes> stretched it and in terms of the ideas as well <hes> you know trinidad because of of the it's a multicultural space it has triggered a lot of interest in other cultures on forms and i think that that also has allowed the work to group. Did you think that you're making a change in what you were doing. It was a very natural transition because it is still very very intricate. It's cheap skill. This subject matter is pretty much the same. It's become a little bit more complex but <hes> it was not a conscious shift <hes> no. I fully understand it. It's just that i remember i'm feeling as though i understood what you did and then all of a sudden it was for me and this is by no means criticism in mexico for me. It felt like there was a building up of vocabulary with your jewelry work crime and then maybe i didn't see what you did for watt but then i saw your work and it just felt like you had a full blown vocabulary and a greater range in this mode even now if one of the better word that you could say more than i could. I felt i could see more an read more and understand more and it didn't it wasn't mikey got rid of anything and she didn't feel like jessen than anything just felt that you had opened up possibilities of of what was a very tightly controlled way of working and almost like a period of like deep meditation in the joey and then it was almost like he just released it and it seems so at ease with the change in scale which surprised me and you know maybe some of that has to do with actually change in physical space so whereas you're when you're creating jewelry it is on a very gary at a bench in a very confined space when you have a studio space that has the experience of the wars it it allows for the work to breathe into it taking part of it i think for me that's what i found so exciting reads a sculpture but the <hes> mm-hmm the connection to the minute scene so almost human very the way that we have like really micro understanding lina things but then we deal with like the globe perhaps through the internet and communication but just didn't feel that this just so much range in the work and exciting so undertook gas or to anticipate to hope whether what can go from here. I'm going to interested in the way that you respond to the specifics of the environment of trinidad. Both of you chris. You talked in the past about the very every particular light internet. Can you explain what you mean by that. He meant before is an nothing still feel. Now's how's that. I'm the best light in trinidad is in shade. Sometimes that the intensity of the you know a this party will people talk about like the northern light in the studio and it's coming from one direction most peaceful life but internally that could so close close the equator the sun is up and above your head and vevey quickly and then down below the horizon vacated the end of the day so with that comes heat and i think in shades he get more more like a play more dappled light more dance in light more mysterious like if you go on walks in the forest your finds one side of the son in on when shady side of a valley and you'll see more leaves doing wonderful things but then also this to pay the time. I'm the same amount of al around five o'clock till about five thirty you'll get this they <hes> kind of magical light that seems to increase the intensity of color and the light would just that sweet period of time with the light which is close quickly like a venus flytrap we start to squeeze the the luminosity out the day and then it turns into night and the length nighttime is almost the same as the mouth daytime so we have this waking hours. How is when it's almost almost doc but in that time i think i learned to appreciate darkness more than i did. I'm the pursuit of light as a as a painter and <hes> you start to see how am natural forms in the think lower forms jasmine's talk now in nature start to have an appeal at nighttime as well as they at daytime by different types of appeal because it's more mysterious. You're not quite sure what is that you're looking at so machination gets triggered and nourished by not knowing rather than by knowing and how does that manifest in your work can can you can you look at your paintings and say i can. I can see a marked shift in my work which is undoubtedly influenced by experience. I tried to make some paintings that am address that blue paintings but i think you're asking me for about how trinidad has had some influence on my work and i empire like <hes> committed the quality of trinidad and the folklore way of telling stories about reality twisting me -ality deliver in <hes> a understanding of the past might not be factual but allows us to tell stories like the right there for me that you can fuse <hes> the made up with the truth and <hes> i become more interested in ancient theology and how confused with contemporary mythology and local mythology <hes> i i just feel that i my sense of artistic license and not been squeezed that actually it's been been opened out just has made one senses that level of mythology very much in your work but it's also very rooted in social realities not and social history and the history of slavery for instance that let's take for example the work parallel realities which is extraordinary dinner table boo which features all manner of extraordinary quite brutal <hes> visions emerging from plates and cups. Can you told me about what those elements are and how you begin to compose. Please let this laying table for their ancestors. <hes> this is something that is has done <hes> routinely in african spirituality and <hes> before the mirant the rebellion in jamaica there was a meeting to initiate <hes> people who are involved left <hes> and it was called tea ceremony and i just found that very interesting because t is very <hes> british thing thing and it kinda denotes civility in terms of commodities tea and sugar basically <hes> are are both products that have fueled the british economy a i wanted to reflect on complexity of of the things that we've revere and in the caribbean to do the right thing is to whoa i wouldn't say mimic strong word but to be very <hes> do the right thing to be british to <hes> be be proper colonial subjects and remember other chair my mother bang <hes> setup china and it was something that i know that she spent a lot of money on over time and it was never used it was the fact that it was acquired. So we spend a lot of time trying to recreate <hes> this image of what we should be and when you think of the plantation economy here it is to house very beautiful the full <hes> setting and really at the root of it is something that was extremely brutal and literally <hes> and the empire was feeding off the bodies of the slaves humpback people and so it was important for me you to present that the the very beautiful civilized setting <hes> exta post with the reality of it and mm to sue you have the machine that is in the very center of the table and the machete is the symbol of the warrior foresees. He's in <hes> the maroons maroons were the slaves that ran away and i wanted to create a kind of counter narrative and that is is where you see things falling over u._c. Hands coming out of of of serving dishes <hes> there are children there. I think doc <hes> that are trying to escape. A big part of the project was civilizations through humiliation it really and that i think that religion and education has played a very significant rule <hes> in in <hes> as a tool so so there is the head that you see open. A brian is revealed on one of the plates. There's a text and now read it because it's it's. It's shocking text reads to deprive them of causing their own deaths. They put a mask on their faces and this was something that was this these from a an oscar book called runaway slave be an rio de janeiro now what i thought was so powerful awful about that was recreated the mask but using your exquisite jewellery techniques and so somehow the brutalities older more visceral through being created so painstakingly bo you again i yeah i think that's what we actually. I do not realize we talk a lot about slavery and the slave trade but i don't think we realize the extent of the brutality and i think that there is a tremendous amount don't wounding that exists and until we actually lay bare the specifics of it lack of that we really do not <hes> we can't reckon with reviewed so in that case when this actually ran away and were caught most of them me what their feet was and they would attempt suicide ride and as a measure to dissuade others they were not allowed to even commit suicide <hes> so they had no control over their own bodies and <hes> i think that is very important and even though it's it seems a bit horrific to to juxtapose two things because there's so much <hes> wrong and evil existing under the cover of something that is beautiful and <hes> i think just need to be more aware <hes> of that and not be mesmerized bay superficial things the mentioned that you begun to look more ancient myths since to me that important turning point in this was the metamorphosis titian show at the national gallery in two thousand twelve. I was intrigued by your response to that brief which was to respond to titians. Great paintings was that you seem to immerse yourself more in the text then titians paintings which which i suppose a little bit maybe counter intuitive. I wasn't aware texan. You know it's almost embarrassing say that now but i wasn't wasn't aware that tax but i am aware of how timeless in how much continues to give over time and i suppose that is the case with many of the great classics six and why they remain so powerless ham spoken stories which i think originally they were toy stories that were told and now that the down we can be i can remember them and read them in private and minna who visit national go at time. Invite me to the show and i am worn. I was scared because i thought i didn't have acquired the knowledge at the age of an understanding at least of those texts which seemed a bit disappointing but then it titian one of the greats it's really and i thought he would just demolish me to put my word next to his. It seem overly because i'm sure that i could stand and but nevertheless as interested in the project in the idea that could take me to other things and it did more recently with this show i <hes> emily wilson's new translation of the odyssey by homer which is a story that can command journey around <hes> his inner self. I would say molten anything but it's the story made up of many many different segments. I got fixated with the passage of time that he spent with calypso and that's some of what he will see in the exhibition and then more weeks in the read more about the passage time that you spent with suzy and that's where i think some of the some of the drawings downstairs in the counties will can grapple with you'll thank you so so much jasmine in thomas gervin and christophe meli affinities is david's verna gallery in london until the twenty first of september and that's all for this week you can read all the latest news online at the art newspaper dot com or online at i o s which you can find at the app store on the website. You'll find a range of subscriptions so that you can read our content seamlessly across multiple platforms. It's andy subscribed for free to our daily newsletter for all the latest stories go to the newspaper dot com and click the newsletter link at the top right of the page. 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CDC Setting New School Reopening Guidelines After Trump Criticism
"The Journal is your daily deep dive into the biggest stories and money business empower for a wider look at today's news. The Wall Street Journal's got you covered our. What's News podcast? It's concise comprehensive with context and analysis twice a day on the go. It's the news that shapes your world, so you can take on the world. Subscribe to what's News From The Wall Street Journal wherever you get your podcasts. Here's your morning brief for Thursday. July ninth I'm Keith Collins for the Wall Street. Journal the CDC is preparing. Preparing new guidelines for reopening schools after criticism from president trump. He also threatened to withhold federal funding from districts that don't reopen the SPALL, the CDC's directors. The agency's guidelines were not intended to be used as a rationale to keep schools shut the move comes as the number of confirmed US Corona virus cases is now past. Three Million Disney world in Orlando will begin gradually reopening today under new rules park visitors will be required to wear masks and costumes. Characters won't hug guess or pose with them for photos. Bed Bath, and beyond says it will permanently close around two hundred stores over the next two years, the retailer said sales fell by about half in the latest quarter a time when many of its locations were closed because of lockdowns and the latest US weekly jobless claims, figures are due out this morning for more details. Please head to our website, wsj.com or the WSJ APP.
tvOS 13: Apple TVs Update for 2019
"Even with the new TV app debuted this spring apple is still pushing out an update this fall. What is it? Why is it? Let's talk. But I I I'm Rene Ritchie, and this is vector. Yes. Even in the age of the TV app on Samsung smart TVs, and Roku streaming boxes apple is still making the apple TV and updating TV OS this year, taking it to thirteen we'll get to why in a minute. But first, here's what starting with the new home screen apple has made a dynamic now. So whatever app is highlight. It can just start playing video and showing off content to you right away. It's meant to be more immersive. And to draw you in faster to new and interesting shows games experiences. I don't know net looks has been doing this borough while I find it incredibly annoying, because it means I can't stop browsing for even a second do anything else anything that requires even a modicum of concentration. Without being bombarded by a noisy trailer. But it's the noisy part that really gets me. I don't honestly care what's playing on screen because I'm either looking at it and interested or not looking at it, and, oblivious, it's the sound that makes it so super gnawing especially when you have no control over whether if Blair's out at you or not. So here's hoping apple will give us that control that way, whether it's hot new show in TV or a hot new game in arcade. Come the Spall. I'll be smiling, not just gritting my teeth. Apple of to troll us with TV us, a couple of years ago, the announced dark mode for apple TV now they've announced multi user for you. Get it apple TV is designed like the similar, but voice based feature coming to home pod to make sure the content your family loves doesn't pollute the up next recommended, and the other highly personalized list of the content you love. If you're into Brooklyn nine nine you don't have to see. There outlander. If you're into public enemy you don't have to worry about their bluegrass. Not songs, not playlists, and with the new in time lyrics, your in time lyrics not there's you get the idea, your idea, your Rex not there's, and there's a spiffing you control center which will be immediately familiar to anyone who's ever used an iphone ipad there to make account switching fast and easy. Apple TV is going to be supporting Xbox One s and win for the crowd reaction station. This also applies to Apple's other platforms. Like I o s an ipad Wes, but it's a big deal for apple TV I because big screen gaming just feels better with big league controllers, and that will certainly be true with Apple's upcoming arcade service as well, but also because they'll be first class controllers apple TV with support for single tap bring up control center. Double tap to bring up the app switcher, and press, and hold briefly, for the home screen since apple TV for now called apple TV HD, one of the big new features every year has been the big, new screensavers. Yeah. They're just screensavers, but anyone who's ever looked at the knows the enormous amount of time and effort, apple puts into them each year for the first few years, it was with helicopters and drones going through cities and mountains, and eventually remote and magnificent locations at every corner of the world last year. It was in partnership with the international space station. And views of the earth from outer space this year. They're diving underwater to show the flora and fauna found beneath the season oceans, all shot by BBC's natural history unit and all of this in an attempt to answer the questions that started coming up following the announcement of the new TV app, and it's a veil ability on smart TV's, and streaming boxes and that is what places that leave for apple TV, four k, which could now come off, as expensive at best, and superfluous at worst, and apple with Tim cook, doing the presentation started to make that case at WWE. It's about the experience. Dammit, and that experience is driven by TV OS, the picture the sound and all of the apps above and beyond TV it's not quite a compelling case at least not yet not until apple does more only apple things like arcade, including things, like, maybe bringing maps to the TV and video Centric versions of news, and news, plus and hand off forbidden. The way home pot is getting hand off for audio and maybe even makes a dungle that gives that kind of experience at a lower cost of entry, or in a much more portable travel friendly way. But with all of the attention coming to TV plus and all of the other pieces falling into place, I think a lot of that is more about when now than if and we still be in for a very interesting year to say the least, now there's one thing that's even better than hearing about all of this. And that's learning how to do it yourself every day. 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685: Your Morning Routine Inspires Your Day, with Benjamin Spall
"It's time to accelerate. Hey, france. This is Andy woke up at six hundred eighty five six eight five of accelerate sales podcast of record. I have a fun show lined up three today. Join me is Benjamin small veterans the author of a book, I enjoyed reading title my morning routine. How successful people start everyday inspired. And in the process of researching the book put together he interviewed a number of very successful. Individuals about the importance of their morning routine in terms of sort of setting the stage, you're saying the table for their overall productivity during the day. And I thought there are a lot of really sort of interesting ideas are lessons for all of us in the book. So look forward to talking to Ben before you get to him too quick announcements. I next week on November thirteenth. I'll be the featured guest for the New York City enterprise sales. Forums fireside chat, which is basically an ask me anything session. I'll be fielding questions from the audience. About sales and hopefully answering them as well. A pretty sure I will. So they'll be a link for you to get your tickets on our show notes page on Andy, Paul dot com. Come look at the episode on Andy, Paul dot com. Click on the link Bill to purchase your tickets, otherwise look, New York City enterprise sales for them online. Also, just briefly talk about what's coming up in the sales house, or what isn't sales house this week. Sales masterclass with Patricia frictions luxury speaker and speaking coach, she's my speaking coach and she's talking about five steps to produce a killer presentation. New course this weekend are nine minutes sales academy. It's how to visualize sales success me how to prepare yourself for successful sales. Call we've got a live pipeline coaching our lives sales mentoring our nose for the entire community, of course, unlimited access to me and our sales house. Facebook group sales is hard work. The good news is you don't have to sell alone. So we can help come invest. A few minutes a day in the sales house. Visit the sales house dot com to join today. Quite let's jump into with my guest Benjamin Spall as mentioned Benjamin has written a really interesting book about your morning routine and the important role plays in getting your day off to the best start possible. And putting you in a position to maximize your productivity. So among the topics. We're gonna explore how to build what he calls habit stack. Why need to set your own routine? I mean, it's great to learn ideas when people that given their ideas Booker people might read online, but it's Porton that the routine are reflects who you are individual. So why make sure you don't fall for the absolute dozen of the experts do's and don'ts. But find out what works for you. Also use the routine to help reduce decision fatigue. Right. Part of her seems like are increasingly busy life. We have many more decisions to make your routine can actually help you reduce the number decisions that you need to make. All right here. We go Benjamin's ball. Welcome to exceleron. I'm good. How are you? Andy. Good good. So people don't know didn't hear the direction Benjamins author book called my morning. Routine. How successful people start every day inspired is that really the function of routine to to provide the inspiration for the day. Yeah. Kind of the idea behind the buck and originally the websites that started out as a website five years ago is the when you start your day kind of Indus kind of tensions webby doing station or working out or just giving us out some productive time. When you start your day in that way, kind of bringing these morning winds of youth for the rest of the day, and is is to kind of making your morning successful. Whatever that means for you, and then bringing that into the rest of your day. Yeah. Well, I find it. Interesting that you use the word with intention. I think this is something that that certainly for audiences is one that I stress lawn is that we have much more deliberate, and you can say, you know, with acting with intent in so many things we do certainly in sales, which is largely sales audience is that. Yeah habit. Plays a certain role in it. But even habits have to be done with intent. Yeah. That's right. And we talk about in the book, especially introduction, the idea of a habits act, which was identified as far as coined. It was mentioned heavily in the book of our of habit. And did the basic idea there is some is you do one habit after another every single day. So we talked about a morning routine. Say you'll get up you gotta buffer. Maybe you'll get your kitchen, and then you could meditate you could do some stretching work out a little bit. But the idea is you placed one habit a stack one habit of another. And it's the same situation every day. So sometimes people say to me, I don't have a morning routine. How do I start and I say you do have rolling routine? It just might be very simple, and it may be negative. The money must resembling a wake up. Hold up right up of a head. Just check Twitter Instagram in the morning, and that is a that's a negative wanting routine that kind of that might be you'll have it stack right now. So the idea behind the book is we deer point out bad things like that. But we also a good idea a good things you can change that to have a conversation will wise meditation. Resolve. Well, I mean, let's talk about that that idea of good versus bad habits. I mean are. Yeah. Some contention around that some people think that that you can't really judge. It's just habits. But but I'm sorry with you. I think that that I break it down into habits either helping you achieve what something you wanna cheat or they're not. If they're not aligned with helping achieve then by definition. It's a bad habit and something you could look at modifying. No, I totally agree. When it comes to morning routines. I guess much less five days. I feel like a phone plays a critical role in the bad habit category. So I mentioned you winner in Instagram, actually, if you around amenable to just looked at nice pictures, she can do in the world. But many of us will checking checking Twitter checking Email, and this is the nature apply. Austin? So sometimes like, for example, vast you may have Elliott Cole Eddie money meeting. And in that situation, you do wanna check late just to be sure of subbing has chains of the most. Maybe don't have that actually could lead a phone on FM mode of night, he kitchen and then late night on again until just before you leave work, and that's a great way of kind of seeking out that Abbott I mentioned just gonna chatting with your wife, which I'm live your husband before I doing this for about a year old. So I put an analog alarm clock. Bedroom and keeping my phone in the kitchen, which to be honest CISCO's that massive distance away. But I'm is the idea there is can come in. I don't check my phone after meeting, and then we could just have a nice job make breakfast chat about the day. And then just as relieving just sitting on the work from this lap. And it's a really nice late to kind of take the phone out of the immediate more. Okay. Well, bright. So the phone is focused of what you consider a bad habit. We'll tell you why why is it bad? I don't think people uniformly believe that. So yeah, it's bad Jones of light what you'll consuming on it. So like actually having the phone disease. Yes. I like I mentioned having its law checking Instagram briefly, if you just you mainly looking nice pictures of nature fire checking Email and check Twitter when you don't need to. And when it's just gonna kind of you can get breezing ideas. Emails might make you a little bit mad get angry about something. But you can't really do anything about it that much until you're at your actual, computer. You'll desktop whatever that I don't think is right helpful. And the thing is we have. We have to find helpful though. What are we trying to accomplish? That's what what what what are we trying to accomplish with a routine? I yeah, we have many things. One of the main thing myself is just kind of having a calm moaning, and because days off very, you know, kind of all of the places days can be quite stressful can be doing a lot. Check Email all day most of us. So actually, I feel lights out of the morning not letting that be pot up teen and just kind of having the comedy evening. The nighttime gonna go a little longer in the morning. I think that's really powerful especially as like as the rest of the day. You all going to be these things you can Email. Something is just good to have time in the morning, you'll south okay? So what sort of the consensus from the guests that you interviewed experts unit for your book in terms of their morning routine? In terms of phone usage. Let's start with their because this is. Particularly contentious idea and quite honestly. Mass convinced by absolute convinced by routine, but not as convinced by some of the people who are so fervent against the idea of checking Email. Yeah. No, he's kind of a little place that in terms of I got some stats are Chima book. Mentioning sloan. Yes, sixty percent of the people that we had abused say, they do check immediately. But the majority of those actually do say they wish they didn't the sometimes I do, you know, I try my best multi. But sometimes I do so the majority of people which they didn't. And it says forty nine percent check Email immediately. So these are the people that you know, that they've decided they wanted to be in spokes wanted us to interview them we decided that routine was interesting enough to include a book, but they still do these things that we suggest not doing. And I think that's really shows how difficult it is to change these habits to change routines fashion beginning, but it really shows that we're not perfect and we try best. And we have this question that we asked everyone, which is what you do if you fail to follow your money, retain, and that could be just smoke pot avail, the whole thing general and many people just say if I'll just try my best to get back on the next day. I try not to let it affect me that day and the important. There is many people have this idea of if you failed to do something that you fail to do something to doing every day. And you just it one day you kind of stop grew into each break broken the chain. Whereas reality even that you'd have broken that chain. Just get by the next day. The next day just make sure you don't ruin it feel cellphone with all tar. Yeah. I think one of my issues with interesting say sixty percent of them. Because I I think what problems run into oftentimes advice people who give advice and Sonal serve absolutism. Right. As that. You know, if we're not doing this. And maybe all the way to look at us. Well, hey, you interviewed a number a large number of productive successful people and sixty percent of them say they check it may the other way to look at the data as well. Maybe that's the good habit and the bad habit actually has not looking at your phone. That's true. I didn't think of it that way. No, I think been absent, isn't it? You mentioned that's really something would go against. And there are many books of articles about wanting routines nowadays, the kind of you know, you have to get up five AM you have to do that. And yet absolute would very much gun against we like have these offals and some people have told us. She knows yourself. Welcome that you will might read one routine. The next interview the contradicting them on the plane. The plane was saying is everyone's different. And we take these different ideas, and you should too. But we're not a popular tips. The end of chapter slowly do kind of dry would not tell me anything. We're not saying you have to do this just kind of saying, you know, gives us a try this might help like getting most sleep. Well a bench much. We don't wanna be absolute. We wanna kinda give people on out when a let people try outs. Yeah. To me the bottom line with with the morning routine. Is that? Yeah. There's value in having a predictable way of getting started in the day. And there are certain absolutely essential things. I think that that as you if all into your life have to be accomplished in the morning, otherwise, they just don't happen. And there are things that are important in your life. And it could be could be meditation. It could be whatever just for the reasons you talked about and we'll get into some of those in a bit as well. It's meditation exercise, or whatever is is if they're not part of that morning routine. Life is busy, and they're just not going to happen. And yeah, no, we we took it. We have a whole chapter in the book on morning workouts. And we personally is what out lunchtime. Most days every day. Most days I woke out sign because that was made the the reason we suggest giving what house ago looking money ago is because is actually what you said you can kind of if you're doing it. First thing you much to stick to it much more likely to actually do it. And we talk about leaving workout clothes out, the Naipaul typical of. But you must do it than if you're trying to do it like lunchtime. All at the end of the day when things get in the way, you might still behind you'll work you on at time. So if this something you'll really start to do it. It might not be working out maybe meditation. It may be it may be important high alot reductive where the econ- do during actual workday. Just try to out in the morning. Have give yourself little slice of time that because you must likely to actually get it done because you waking up enough fresh and relaxed state. Yes, I went through the book, I could actually sort of say, okay? Looking at the routine and say, okay. This person is either single or has no kids. And they were the people that worked out midday worked out later in the day deferred things you have that freedom of flexibility thought was interesting and what your tips for morning routine in will go through this second. But was get a dog. And I thought the thing that was missing on this list was kids 'cause that changes. I was I was a mid day and after an exerciser. Child one showed up on the scene, and it was like, well, I don't work out after work because I want to go home and spend time with my kid. And and I didn't take the time at lunch because that means I was going to work longer in the day because him just the way it is. Right. We all work through lunch most days and so on so suddenly became morning up to that point. I hate it. Absolutely. Hated working on the morning. I thought run in the morning. Thirty years later. Yeah. I wouldn't do it any other time. Yeah. Definitely definitely shifts kind of like say what you have to like what you can to. And we we do have a chapter in the book on parents of young kids and in that chapter. They like suggest that they will have young children, and then kind of speak through what works for them and the other routines. It's just to be grass salt as what works. Bam may not work for you. And they kind of contradict each costs. Of course, that was very helpful app that idea there, but that he'll point totally like as she happened to shift around when you do things working being grace on whole is best pot of it. And we hope in the book at tation, and the idea is if you change your routine of something drops hours, he had something and just the aware of that happening in like thing are you doing on your terms, or at least on the terms of whilst needed view in your family? Are you doing on those two are you doing it to some of these? And if the reason is just laid its high may be at around may change it around with you really still do it. But don't worry about things dropping out if you really annoy enjoying them. You're not getting much out of them. Like we say start out if you wanna try meditation print sample sought out just doing ten minutes a day. But if I was doing some today for a few weeks ago full weeks, you'll really feel like getting anything out of it. Then that's fine just draw an if you'll really enjoying it. Then maybe increase, but the holiday Swiss and actually. Friday's things at least waltz. Yeah. Meditations interesting one because opposite number people. Brought that up in the morning routine is looking at that. I was thinking. To me. That's. I wouldn't put that in my morning routine. I do meditate not as frequently as I'd like but head space. That's like that is is I want to do it in the middle of the day because I feel like halfway through the day for me the most affected time as okay, I'm Sarah revved up. It'd be nice to serve DR for a second. And then get revved up for the rest of the day as opposed to when I wake up when I'm shouldn't nominally be at my most calm. I don't find as much benefit at that point in time. But yeah, actually, it's funny. I see the same. I do tend to meditate in the morning. But if it gets during the morning too often known and I do find the war in the afternoon. And I think it's the like I actually ten minutes. But I think is because he just mentioned in the morning. We're kind of ready have already kind of had that my sleep cokes late and will already feeling like, you know, is on the day ahead. Maybe more big picture. And then when it comes to often, you kind of need that. And I definitely get what you're saying. I definitely that reach us on science to kind of, you know, at two PM, you just might be bugged down with emails. Everything seems to pull in the meditates. It's fifty minutes. And you're like, you remember what really isn't pulling it can kind of bring you back around. So yeah, I much stop during my little bit Larr. Yeah. Interesting. What people for the book? I think they'll find it somewhat. Amusing. I guess is is how many people have eaten the exact same thing for breakfast for thirty years or twenty years, and it's just like. And I serve chuckled at that. But then I think okay. Well, I've not been to different actually. Well, certainly in the last last close the last ten years, right, right? Yeah. Five days a week pretty much the same thing. But Anna blueberry protein, fiber, shake like, and it's just it's easy. It's predictable. I know it's there fills me up keeps being filled to lunchtime. Yeah. That's it surf the value for me is the predictability but also at. The fact is filling. So I think just take something else off the plate. Yeah. No. I let me and my wife we change praxis around slightly, but not dramatically and kind of as you were saying the one thing that we've realized focused on its lowest keep us federal filled up a lunch time. And I think that's what people I think people signed while does what gives them the energy to work and get stuff done in the morning. And that's kind of the most ball in parks to be on the breakfast drink question. That was just the fun. It wasn't. It wasn't as much as the typical. Now's as a little bit. But that was interesting also interesting to see how many people drink coffee, which is even higher. Oh, really? Yeah. I would I wouldn't have been surprised of you know, ninety five percent. I mean. Yeah. Well, he got here. Coffee is. She is twenty nine percent. But wait only twenty nine percent drink coffee in the morning as very straight. I okay. Yes. A lot of people drinking August. Yes. But I think if he say how many people drinking coffee role as much much. Yeah. Because I'm not gonna drown. I'm strung about the only one as I one I know that doesn't. Go through some of your tips for morning routine because I. I'm a fanatic about certain aspects my morning routine and interested here a little bit. And have you share with what you found some people you've talked about? So you talk about experiment with your wake-up time. And the surf y'all said the discussion about the quote unquote controversy about people hitting their snooze button on their alarms. I always thought is. And I believe that. Yeah. Pardon? My morning routine is. Yeah. I'm an old person. But I mean relatively old person. But being in the work life for decades. I don't need an alarm rate, right? Surprised by how many people set their alarm or he's talked about hitting the snooze button to get those extra fifteen minutes. Yeah. I would say the majority of the people who not Majoor bay LA the people who said that they do use alarm the kind of just uses of backup to hedge against oversleeping though. I am I totally get personally I always along, and it's pretty rat. Maybe one day a week five day week that I actually wake up to the alignment pretty much before. And by the kind of socks didn't set that alarm, and I slept. What if I've been Allah Longa like I work from home for the most part? We summer as time Bailey able kind of suck up to like behind the whole day. It would ruin my morning routines. So that's what a lot of people are saying that mainly just setting it to make sure they don't asleep. And so in that respect many of the do wake-up without along a sense. But two point about this new fund. Yeah. We we do put a display saying that if you use news, and you truly love it. You really think it works to you then ship continue. But for the most by many of us us us news button. It just hurts us. It doesn't help us away. And we said just try favoring at how many snooze you normally figuring out. What time do you tend to get up once you snooze, and then just your Allama that time just works for a week two weeks? And then just just do that. Because the snooze button is not good being kind of wasteful slate. As state is not particularly helpful many of us ever set of it truly was view than continued. But we suggest. Yeah. Nothing. I'd suggest as not that too. Many people ask my advice on the absolute morning routine getting out of bed, but is yes against us prize. When are people at sort of stayed in bed after I mean to me, it's. I get out of it. Ready to me? I'm up I'm out. I mean, it's it's otherwise. Yeah. I sort of get if I stay in bed. I ended up staying there for a long time. That's not good. Not fall asleep. Right. But, you know, get distracted. I guess what's on Twitter Instagram? Right. The news and so forth. So I to me, that's that's import recommendation people's. Yeah. When you wake up get up get started young if you if you want to sit and meditate if you want to sit and read. Go. Do it somewhere else? It. Exactly. Yeah. We we had a few people mentioned that they do try meditate imbed, they'll still slow. But that's that's not enough. They still like asleep. To guarantee you're gonna fall back asleep. Only. Yeah. Exercise is big one. Do you like? Just get outside and do something. But, but I believe certainly in sales for for her long longtime, and one of the most common things seeing people are most successful in this profession or people who are have routine people are committed to to habits and exercise is one of those. It's not a judgement on those who who don't. But it seemed to be an integral part of people that waste of my experiences have a little bit more energy a little bit more commitment to hitting goals and so on. Yeah. No totally and what we found while speaking with people who were Cal is a lot of them. Due out in the morning beloved do work out late in the day, kind of touching Elliott. And the main thing is just workout anytime that works for you. That's that's as good as, you know, working the morning because just getting in getting extra energy from it is most important, and I personally feel like hypocrites logs. I did work out. I didn't join a gym like login, and then literally just a couple of months ago, so often the book came out, I rejoined Jim feeling hypocrites. Hawking about counsel. The time I dealing it. As necessary. I recently, buddy. I started feeling so much better. This isn't the age where you should be pulling bad, and I joined the gym I just dislike weights, and now my body's those bene- every single day, and I have some energy energy in the afternoon in particular, something something I'm struggled with having that fatigue in the afternoon, and I've stopped drinking coffee. I drink decaf coffee now, which of course, has a little bit of Kathy. But nothing too. Yeah. Junkie dream, Jim changes. Kathy's really made a big difference to me in my energy, just by general well-being. I was always had like a low back pain just like going suggestion four or five days a week is just complete. And so we talked about wanting workouts in the book, but we really you. We do mentioned just issued if you can get a work anytime of the day is incredibly helpful. And we spoke with the chairman of the bango group, and he actually he works out allege time because and to him that really works for me that really worked. So if you is low as you figure out when was for you when you can she mentioned you had to shift goes around a little bit. But as long as it does pay your lifestyle than just just just do it, basically. Yeah. The benefit is. And I think the term workout sometimes dissuade some people from and I think the term using the book is a good terms. Just go outside. Right. It's just right, right. If if you haven't been exercising regularly. It's not party routine. Just. Just go outside take a walk. Right. I have it's just two blocks start with two blocks. Whatever it is. But just just start with something and the end you'll find the associated benefits ripple through everything you do once had some it's just a sense of confidence. Right. And so much of all of our work, whether it's sales or any part of business. Stems from confidence. Now, that's that's right. And we actually I think you mentioned earlier there's a point where we say getting a dog is a great way to wake up like definitely get out the house of the moisture and just a week ago at my in-laws house with my wife and looking off to that house looking off to the dog, and they haven't enormous general shepherd. So that thing needs a long long every single morning in. It's very hot known, California. So we had to go up like seven thirty AM or latest, and we we would stay him a law by the time. We got back over you have us Laura exhausted. And he was lay down and sleep rows. But it was a great way to get some exercise. And, you know, even though you don't need to walk out in you have a small dog, you probably just let glocks just having bat. And having that motivations get your house is great. And just just having that, you know, the freshman and everything is really great way to start your day. One thing that that I didn't see a lot of. Maybe not enough. The ROY just stood out is is for me reading a little bit in the morning. Not not news. Not you know. Social media and so on but a book business related typically for me in the morning on business at night. Is is real essential. And for me as part of my routine. Sorry, just get my thoughts going. I make sure I take notes that's part of the routine is is actually a. Cut and paste between the book and Evernote, but it's my form of taking notes. But yeah, it just it's for me. It's way of getting the the learning juices going maybe in the morning, and I think that's so important during the day as you have that mindset going into the day of all right? What information like to learn today? What can I learn new today? Have you talk about people waking up with gratitude for me? I wake up with curiosity. With optimism. Right. As I can't wait to see wanted to learn today. Yeah. Now, I your I think free flow people dimension it. But you know, that's a lot tens of the whole book. The no that's the me. That's great. You know, reading in the morning that kind of like what you what you do so far. But yeah, people mentioned that people mentioned United sitting in that library, which is also a dream. Meeting reading in the morning. What you don't have one in your apartments are Cisco. I do not know I have a bookshelf. Even a little bit there. But yeah, no. It's it's that just really isn't. If you can't you have time or a few you make time, you know, you make it a priority. I think I'd have great definitely like keeping productive keep going those and a lovely say about waking up of the curiosity. Great debate. Yeah. I have to I really have to monitor that like some people do is. If I read something business related right before work or I sleep excuse me. Yeah. It's a problem because the mind is going, and I've got tons of ideas. And and the way I. I could do something. Simple. Like, yeah. But down Evernote a bear, my know taking things on my phone, but but you know, then they tend to get lost side. I E mail these thoughts to me one thought at a time. So I see him when I wake up in the morning, but yeah, but waking up with twelve emails for myself as usually means I didn't go to sleep. Very great. So for me, the opposite of the inverse of the business ring in the morning pleasure. Reading at night. And yeah, sure. And I'm trying to listen to my wife and not read on my screen at night. More. We're going to sleep because scientists pretty clear that that doesn't help you sleep. Yeah. Yeah. I am actually jealous. I'm always telling my wife to stop looking to huff early seen palm Affleck's thing. You know, whatever the has that all isn't perfect doesn't take a little way. But it's held. So I'm always trying to do that. But yeah, you mentioned sleep. That's actually one of the most important points will be found in the book garrels ago, when we were kind of in the first Ross is we were gonna have a whole big sectional, sleet, we will will with lip down to one Jackson. The basically what we found is from the people innovate, but it's the book. So the website getting us leap is kind of like the most important things that they touchy punk. And we think this is because I've found this speaking people if you if you really just don't get enough sleep cycle. You'll morning routine could be the most elaborate precipice the world. But you're not gonna get any anything from you just tired into gun for the lotions. You probably not gonna work. On a workout alight e concentrates much of your reading. So let's getting enough sleep is incredibly Leonard j. Yeah, I think it's it's the thing that most likely disrupt your morning routine. It's not to get enough sleep. And certainly if exercise component of fear, especially you're, you know, working out with a purpose with an attention raining for an event or something like that. Yeah. I mean, those days when sleep is is precious. And I don't get enough of it on my schedule hang up and run six miles. That's like. We'll do that tomorrow. That's because. Yeah. Nothing worse than having a death March. Oh, six mile run. When you don't really want to. Nothing. I thought was was I didn't see addressed a bunch by to me serve important part of the routine to is is because people spend a lot of time on this. As what choosing what to wear? Yeah. It was. Yeah, you're right. It wasn't a huge, man. It was just a few times one time by a both mullahs. Who we see a founder president of Bob's red mill? He's eighty nine years old. He was he was the eldest interviewed in needless to say, it was fascinating interviews. He has she talks about choosing. What's brand the morning matching everything for the most part? I didn't come up too much. Yeah. I think people should have a uniform. Yeah. I mean, it's yeah. It's sort of Steve's judge Steve job young. If you will a job in terms of. You know, black turtle neck and jeans. But. Other people have talked about that is and people have read about productivity. And so on is that I'm just not gonna spend any energy on deciding what to wear, and that's why I have. I'm not taught me, but this one person business executive, he's got blue suits and white shirts. And that's. I'm actually after I'm fairly similar, I'm usually jeans and black t shirt. I mean, it's it's it makes it very simple. I don't think about it. Yeah. Yeah. We we touched on very briefly revised in regard to fatigue in the book and kind of the idea that in the in the morning eating his baseline number of decisions, you can make a not show science behind it. But it kind of makes sense and the idea of being the molestation made the multi edgy get kind of struggle to make goods and the show let's make decisions toil that you'll still tomat-. Good decisions like decisions for yourself. Excel. So we do suggest even if he's not workout clothes like just regular clothes for them, both low if you can as you mentioned like mate, this beautiful soul mate. Very simple. And then you know in the morning just hutler on don't even think about it just have them. They're ready to go. And that does help is just a small little tweet in your morning as a good way to keep calm, right? Have one less decision on? Yeah. So last thing is we're running out of time here. But I wasn't part of my routine is is. Giving just giving myself a few minutes to think and just a random thing. And usually they come in the shower push sometimes unfortunate because it's hard to remember these days which. Sometimes on out for run or bicycle ride. It's like, okay, I got stops. I myself an Email make sure. But I think it's important to have the time we serve free to ruminate, and because yet through nation that studies have shown this is just so important terms of surfacing ideas and thoughts, maybe coalescing things that that really appeared while you're sleeping, Jordan aware of that. Are you know, you get out and inform? You can make actionable yet. No, I think a few people mentioned this, and I totally relate to have. Stop by in life. I've definitely had times that I've fought something I'm reading something. And I don't have a pen or does my son. And I think is good enough that you have to get up and you'll yeah. No. I totally relate to that. But I'm no it a few people the productivity section mentioned that that Bill out the Bank champion, he mentioned that for sure. That's to me wishy recently interviewed Al Newport, frog website, the Depor consent. And he mentioned something similar of calls. So is is is to have that highlight will thinking and bringing backgrounds of meditating in the afternoon. That's kind of when I come back to that. You've played taking Email very important meditate ten minutes. And then I'll be like, okay. In terms of what you know my goal for the next five years this remotely important. It's no problem. So yeah. The ability to have a high level thinking kind of no way of goals on what you all ideas is is incredibly important, and especially more. Excellent. Okay. Well, Benjamin this great. We could talk forever. This is a fascinating topic. And and I tell people you're are coming on show 'cause I actually have pardon my community sales house community people have been reaching out and saying, okay, I'm interested in writing because I've been writing about my routine, more and more. So people get a sense of that. And so as timely that you're here. So tell people they can connect with you. Yeah. I mean, you can the book is a websites. My morning routine dot com. And if you go to my mind dot com slash book. You can find the atmosphere links and everything like that. Presley at Benjamin stole dot com and among Twitter Instagram at Benjamin's fall. Excellent or good. We'll thank you. Thank you very much. It's great fun. Okay. Friends that was exceleron for the week. First of all thank you for joining me. I don't want Benjamin Spall. Join me again next week as I welcome Amy Franko to accelerate Amy is the author of a new book, titled the modern seller. Some more and increase your impact in the news sales economy. Not before you go. Don't forget to check out the sales house that o-on sales learning coaching mentoring and development accelerator just for you to be sellers. Visit sales house dot com. I look forward to seeing you there. So thanks again for joining me until next week. I'm your host Andy Paul good selling everyone.
#455: How to Create the Perfect Morning Routine
"This episode of the art of Meles podcast is brought to you by slow MAG helping your daughter just for window a C unit getting the Christmas lights down. These are. Feats of middle aged brought to you by slow MAG SLA magazine, magnesium chloride calcium supplement for proper muscle function. Visit slow MAG dot com slash manliness. For more information against slow MAG dot com slash manliness. Stevenson, not been evaluated by the FDA as the food and Drug administration is product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease. Brad MacKay here. And welcome to know that issue of the art of manliness podcast. How you start something as often how you finish that couldn't be true or than for the trajectory of your days when your mornings feel chaotic rush fragmented than the rest day often does too. But when you start off with a centering invigorating morning routine. That feeling follows you the rest of the day if you'd want to improve or simply start your own morning routine than this episode is for you might guest is Benjamin Spall, and he's the co author of the book my morning routine, which shares insides taken for the morning routines of dozens of entrepreneurs leaders in creative folks today show Benjamin walks through how to craft the perfect morning routine, including how to make time for it in your schedule. What activities to include in how successful morning routine starts with what you do the night before you all's discuss how to just your morning routine while traveling when you have kids and along the way Benjamin gives the peak at the morning routines of several influential people to give us an inspiration for own routines. Lots of actual vice than subsequent creating a morning routine that works for you and sets you up for productive day. Out of the show's over make sure to check out our show notes at AOL dot es slash morning routine. You find links to resources ring delve deeper into this topic and Benjamin joins me now via Skype. All right Benjamin. Spall welcome to the show. Thanks for having brat. So you got a new book out my morning routine. How successful people start every day inspired. I think people that's one of the I've noticed that I'm interested. I think a lot of people are interested like what do other people do for the morning routine. I think it said voyeuristic part of ourselves. So what got you looking into the morning routines of all these influential people. Well, you're exactly right about being voyeuristic. That's something that I the way I think about it myself. But the way I came to it was around Mitzi thousand twelve I was reading the book the power of habit by Neil times journalist shells, do hick announced really interested in the idea of building something where we could really celebrate people's habits and tennis find these different habits find these different ways of doing things that could be helpful for people daily lives, and it was around about the same time that my now under Kohl's Michael's Santa got in touch with me. And he has the same idea of kind of documents in what people. Do in the morning. So we kind of put this idea together and we created by morning routine dot com, which it's hard to believe nowadays. Because people write about wanting routines all the time but back then morning routines really want being spoken about that much. So we started publishing one new interview every single week and we've been doing that coming on six years now. Wow. So you interviewed dozens of successful people to find out what they do for the morning routines. Did you find one common template or principal for how to do more routine? All right. So festively I would say that has no right way to start your day. There's a lot of vice online that kind of says you have to have to get up at five AM. You have to do this. You have to do that. But to be honest, we kind of real really led to look at the idea of what let's for you. So interviewing people about that mornings for so long to shut me. It's possible to have a regular morning routine without being rigid and regimented about it and for us. Honestly, it's all about kind of studying your morning routine with intention, and what we found while interviewing people both of the website. I'm for the for the book. Is that almost none of the wells best and brightest leave that months to John's and interview this is clearly not a coincidence are it so they were intentional about it. But it it. There's a lot of variation. That's exactly right. They kind of they kind of started out with many people when they kind of want to begin them wanting routine. They think of what they do. And we've had so many people come to us that say they don't actually have a routine whereas in reality if we ask what they do every single day it kind of as as a rhythm, you kind of get up. You gotta the bathroom. You might go to the kitchen and is just kind of like adding little things into that rhythm say might want to add cut of meditation or a little bit of working out. But when you add things within what you're already doing. You can already build on. What you have were you a big morning routine guy before we started this project or did this like, you know, was a catalyst for thinking about your own yet. No, I really wasn't a toll. I was kinda terrible. I would get up at ten AM dykema university dies. And then after after I finished goal. I would just I was a freelancer. So I can't get get up at the same time. And so when I start. The website. It was very much idea of using this information that we will gathering both from friends and kind of more well known people as the site went on. I was using his inflammation myself to what she improved my own routine, and it has improved dramatically as we say in the book, you kind of have to care the same things many times over to to get the impact of it. So granite sample of this is for longtime. I kept my phone in my bedroom. Like right beside my heads, and I was often wake up and kind of just started looking at Twitter looking Email. Bam reality. That's a terrible way to start your day. And took me I'd have to say to to for years of hearings advice from people with interview where they'd say keep your phone another room and into me toll-free has to she go through of that. So now keep my phone in my kitchen, and it's a great way to at she wake up to be more intentional about your day. Do not immediately grabbing the items has FANG. Hurry was get into the nitty gritty of warning routines. Because this is the fun stuff. Let's talk about the ferry. First thing you do in the morning, which is waking up. Now. I mentioned earlier that you see all these. Blog post articles about if you want to be a millionaire you have to wake up at five AM when you interviewed all these people and these are people who are successful in the respective field. We're most of them early risers or was there a lot of variation. What time people woke up yet? That was a lot of variation to be on. You really don't need to be in LA rise. It's half Immonen routine. And when we referred to morning routines in the book, and on the website, it really referencing the time between you waking up an even having to leave your home all transitioning to that spot of your day. And a great example of this is if you work a night shift resemble you'll only routine may start free a full in the afternoon, and that that's fine. That's kind of when you're waking up the most important thing, you can do if you already feel like you don't have that much time in the morning is just to slightly increase time. Available to you getting up five minutes Elia the one whole week. So that doesn't mean five minutes a day just for one whole week at five minutes earlier than usual and the next week at five minutes on top of that. And eventually if a time you'll kind of reach up point way alike. Okay. I have enough time with. My routine by not feeling tight. And that's a great way to kind of increase that space to allow more in the way. What was kind of the average wake up time for people that you interviewed them. Yeah. The average wake-up sign she had this in the back of the book. Here we go. It was six twenty four AM. So it's still relatively early. But it's not kind of like, you know, four AM five AM as many articles kind of suggest you should do. Right. And I imagine when you talk to these people through wakeup times changed based on their different stage of life. They were in yet. Totally we we mentioned this the conclusions. Well, because it's really important to think when having him on routine isn't something that you get to. It's not the case of you, eventually get the this jewelry team for life. It really is something you change over time. You just have to make sure you'll a very deliberate with these changes. So for example, if you have if your ego from not having kids to having kids, you'll go from having kind of a lot of time deal south in the morning to really not having that much time tall and say over teen is going to dramatically change and. For this reason, we have a chapter on new parents in the book, but you really do have these changes throughout your lifetime ages have to recognize I'm making these changes because it's necessary. Because in the case of new child in the case of a job are you making these changes because you're kind of falling back into old rhythm. Was talking about extremes on the waking up? What was the earliest that? You can remember someone waking up, and then what what was the latest. Yeah. I I'm sorry. I had this. I think about four AM was kind of the the average earliest kind of like we would see that relatively often. But not all the time. And a great example that was a styling mccrystal who's a former US army general, and he would often get four AM and he would go for a run. And it was very intense retain with spill on us. I myself couldn't replicate. And I think maybe the latest, and this may be on the website in the book kind of a ten AM may be even eleven AM. And that was sometimes I think someone we interviewed she just needed a little sleep. She liked pestle needed about ten hours sleep every day. So that's why she woke up so late, and we also interviewed a singer songwriter who gets a little bit later when she's all toll. So that's a good point. Like, I think a lot of people are just pressure that you have to wake up early not necessarily just do. It's good for you right now. That's that's that's exactly right light. We we all different than we do. Change for our lives. And if you really struggled to get up early, and if it just going to be tired fraut your morning routine it's much, but it's kind of get that sleep in get completely arrested before you begin with your day are so about right after you wake up with something that you found a lot of people interviewed that they did commonly. Right. Like immediately after they woke up. Yes. So the best thing you can do on say, we'll festival don't have fun by bad. But the festival you can do is a mealy get out of bed and just kind of do the same thing every day. So many of us we get up we to the buffer him. And then what you do after that. You could go to the kitchen, you can meditate you could workout video even just put on your clothes and go the gym. But the idea is to at she kind of do the same thing every day. And we talk about a lot in the book about the importance of keeping these things small and easy to accomplish. So if you if you start out decide, okay this week, I want to start meditating every single day. If you tell yourself I'm going to meditate for half an hour right off waking up you very quickly gonna stop doing this. Because even for the day. This is gonna. Feel like a lot of time that you'll taking away from your moaning and potentially making us up late for work. So we say keeping very shoul- like maybe a five minute, meditation a ten minute meditation. Just kind of that amount of time. It really is easy to get the end, and I would say intensive staying on the wrong track. The worst thing you can do is really just kind of checking your Email checking Twitter checking any website on check. First thing in the morning is just a terrible way to wake up, and when we interviewed half of the book around Huffington taught us the big plot of morning routine is what she doesn't do. And the main thing she doesn't do is check phone though. It's really important just to kind of be in the mindset of kind of that feeling of calm that brings across from your sleep, a not kind of having inflammation come into you straightaway right away. Yeah. I've noticed whenever I check my phone first thing in the morning like it sets the basically prime the pump for the rest of the day where I'm going to be constantly checking social media, Email etcetera. But like when I don't it sets, a stage or precedent. Why? I don't do that more. So whenever I check my phone first thing I ended up being more distracted by the day when I don't I'm more focused. Yeah. Totally and it is hot as addicted. Like, I, you know, I sometimes like I wanna chat whilst on Twitter. I kind of I want to have that little feeling of outrage vastly in the morning, but it's really not. It's really not a great way to increase that quarter. Saw that help you help wake you up. But with that said, you did interview a lot of people in the book were part of their job is keeping on top of what's going on. And so they ought to check Email first thing in the morning because they might have, you know, business going on in Asia, they need to know right away. It may be answered that Email so they can take care of business yet until I it's really is not a perfect system. And like many times if I have ELLI moaning in the interview or meeting, I do have to check that. And I guess that's something that's probably some way around it where if you have an assistant, they can text you have something changes. The don't have to check that. But yes, sometimes you really just have to you know, job is like you work. You do need to check up another thing that I liked and I've tried to incorporate this, but I have to do it lately. Because I've got kids now. Now. So there's a lot going on. But you know, just getting outside and taking a walk in the morning. First thing in the morning is just so relaxing, and rejuvenating any kind of really sets the tone for the rest of the day. Yeah. We actually we actually look at the idea almost in times of meditation, whereas isn't a sit-down meditation practice itself, but actually just getting out there in nature is a great way to kind of calm you down and kind of get you ready for the day ahead. And you get the blue light right from the rising sun to help wake your body up even more. So it's it is very it's very natural for about. It's to wake up that way. So I think one reason why a lot of people wanna start morning routines or start getting intentional about their morning routines. They wanna be more productive throughout the rest of the day. So we talked about some things you can do to be more productive. Like don't look at your phone set the stage for you looking at your phone social media yesterday border. Some of the things that you found that people do in their morning routine to help them be productive throughout the rest of the day. Yes. A one thing which came up time on time again is working out. And while we have a whole chapter in the book. Dedicates a folks who work out in the morning, we quickly notice the main benefit was not necessarily working out in the morning, but actually just working out at any time in the day. So many people spoke with including Bill McNabb who is the ten of the vanguard group. He works out at lunch, and I personally workout at lunch as well. And he gets benefit as well. So even though it's very important to what she get that workout into to kind of, you know, pump the ion kinda fill fill ever go and just actually getting my in at some time of day is a great way to kind of improve the rest of your day and one benefit to doing it in the morning is just making show you get in so many people say that if they push it to later in the afternoon later in the evening, there's a reasonable John. So what will run over get stuck in meetings? And they went as she be able to do it. So that is one reason for doing in the morning and also working on a side project, so many people especially right up to meditating. They say the great thing to do is work on Cyprus. So this this book selfless side project of mine for a long time. So actually having that time in the morning to work on something. Is outside of your job is outside of what you do every single day is a great way to spend that time. No, that's good stuff there. So I took advantage of that. When I was first starting the art of manliness, I was I started when I was in law school, and you know, law school you're there from eight AM to eight o'clock at night. It's busy fulltime job. So if I wanted to get work done in had to do it for like I wake up at six and work on the blog for an hour or two and then go to school in. That's how I did it for the first year or two. Yeah. Now as as the perfect time threat, gee, just get in that works that you really feel the is important to your life. Because kind of kind of working out is when you come home from a long day of your job. You're not going to be filling in the mood to kind of get back in front of a computer again with the working out. I love what I love about the book is that you have these like at the end of each section. You have like the reversal section. So kind of flipped a switch. And like, hey, maybe you don't have to do this in the morning and with the working out I found for a while. I was working out first thing in the morning. Just get it done. But I found. You know, I do barbell training. And just like when I first thing the more, I'm super groggy. My joints are still creaky. My muscles aren't warmed up. So it's just really hard my workouts for terrible. And then also when I had a terrible workout if things didn't go, according to plan, I would just being a cranky mood for the rest of the day and just unmotivated and distracted thinking about man, I should have gotten that. Finally, just switched to after work. And it's a lot better. I don't have to deal with that anymore. Yeah. Novitiate we we stole the reversal idea from Robert green. He writes, the Palo books those books of the great. But yet the idea was a lot of people when we interviewed them a lot of people were telling us one thing. But then you know, maybe ten percent. Twenty five percent of people will be telling us something entirely different. So we kind of wanted to bring in we wanted to make people feel that win just telling you one way to do it with with saying, this is how the majority of people go. But if you want to go this way as well that really works. We're gonna take a break for words. More sponsors every have at least one suit in the wardrobe. You're gonna wear this job. Interviews weddings, funerals fancy night on the town where suits required. Ingo? The department store buy off the rack. But here's the problem. Yeah. You can tailor it for certain parts of off the wreck you that you can't tailor. Also, you can customize it. So you go custom-made, we'd probably think Brett to Mukasey, arm and leg not so with Indochino Indochino dot com. You can get a custom made measure suit for about the same price. You would pay for an off the rack suit. 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What you kind of you know, you might have grander idea as what you can get done that day. So definitely kind of before you finish work. I personally I ice schedule things I made sure like everything's in the calendar of Wadham particular doing and I also make to do last which kind of generally the items near the top of the more important items. But sometimes I'll be stuff down now that gets moved up, and that is a great way to just is very simple. But it's a great way to just as she might show. You know, what's ahead of you? Even if you don't get old done is to actually know what's coming up are. So that's a good point to to have a good morning routine. It also pays to have a good like apnea into work routine or evening routine. Yes. No, totally we suppose the money people who actually that evening routines. More impressive in the morning routines. And one of the ways in particular people liked to kind of jump on the idea of neighboring Jane is kind of to lay out that close the next day, and this can be done in two different ways. So many people if working out in the morning, they lights lay out the workout clothes, and the idea that is you see them in the morning, and you'll much more likely to actually do it, especially if you've got the shoes riffing in place, you see it, and you know, that that is what you need to do. But some people they just decided to put out their outfits and the kind of the idea that is to defeat decision fatigue. So many studies about this. But Jim really in the in the morning, we have a set amount of decisions we can make a day before we kind of get a little bit groggy, and we struggled to kind of make the choices that we know ripple into us. So when you have your outfit picks at nighttime. It may be a little bit difficult nights. To make decisions in the morning. You don't have to make that decision then and another thing people love to do in the evening is clean up around the house. So some people I've been this myself, but some people don't really mind it to be too messy. But for many of us is great too. She just made show the kitchen is cleaned, the general bedroom areas clean that wake up to a mess. And I've definitely been in the situation where I will come up like the one pan. I own is at the bottom of the Saint like coveted mess. So it's a great way to shave make sure that you have what you need for breakfast. And I would say the biggest kind of game changer to improve your evening routine is just to make sure that you allow enough time to sleep so many people I speak with they come up to me, Osma Howell. How can they improve them wanting routine? I will often awesome. How many hours of sleep? They get typically the night before and often this number is much lower than I would just to be five hours. Maybe even five and a half, six hours, and to be honest. Most of us need between about seven of nine hours of sleep a night and often when I say this I liked it. Really caveat to say just because I seven nine hours. It doesn't mean that you're a seven pass you could just as easily be a Nile person. So I personally do about eight thousand sleep a night. And if I don't get that kind of struggle. And so that's a great thing to do with your evening. If you feel like you have to get up early. We just don't have time in the morning just make sure you get enough sleep, especially just before to go to bed as that helps you increase the quality of your morning routine. The next day. Gotcha. Speaking of lane, your close out even union interview people where they actually wore their workout clothes to sleep in. And so as soon as I woke up, they're ready to work out. Yeah. We actually we have what we have around Huffington g she mentioned that she used to do that. But she doesn't anymore. I believe the reason was because I kind of put it kind of put her in this world where it kind of like working out like productive mindset in bed, and she figured it was better to have like a nice, not dress or something, you know, bedtime close. Yeah. I've definitely had of people doing that as well. And also another benefit of planning your day Ukraine that to do list of important things you're gonna do first thing. The night before is that if you start off your day, looking at your E mail, usually your gender is driven by Email while I got an answer that Email of that. And then like you spend two hours, you know, like, I haven't got anything done productive for just answering emails yet. No is if true for longtime. I only started to do some scheduling about four years ago and up to that point. It was exactly that my whole schedule was amount as if my Email inbox was my to do list. That's is a great way to feel productive. I believe many people still kind of have that system now in his it really is a great way to fill like during a lot because you kind of have that goal of archiving on emails, and you gotta get there. But as a terrible way to what she work on big picture goals. What she have this kind of plan. You know, six months I'll year out five years out to help us plans in place, you kind of really need to think long term and have that schedule that stick to every single day. So you've been mentioning meditation a lot something people do their morning routine seems like a lot of people use their morning routine. Minnesota to be productive and get stuff done. But just to be like. Actually, their spirituality be mindful. Right. Yes. So we actually we know in the book that even if you'll idea of sit down meditation for twenty minutes doesn't work for you. You can really learn to find medicine moments in the mundane generally kind of build in moments of mindfulness fraut you'll day and this great ways to do this kind of you mentioned earlier, the, you know, just getting out the house of walking around a great way to kind of feel these moments than also going for a morning run. And someone that she we spoke to for the book he mentioned the every single morning he'll put on his teakettles. So he'll put watering the cattle he'll put it on. And he'll press the switch, and then it'll be a few minutes. He'll just sit about nothing at all. And he uses that as as time to allow him to bring that meditative moment into his morning. But we also in the book, we do describing typical foams sit down meditation and many of the people we spoke of kind of write about what they do. If you kind of go into that the Presley, I've always done about the last couple of years, I've been doing a ten minute meditation at generally really in the morning, if I don't get in in the morning, push it too. Later in the day. And it's just such an easy is such a showed about of time. It's easy to do. And I don't worry about it. It's just something that I enjoy. And even though I've never really been able to meditate properly the completely empty. My mind is a great way to release salt might toss the day. And this is always a prior to checking Email of costs whether any journalists in the morning routines. That were that were I think one of the was line holiday. He journals every single morning and him is definitely a meditative practice is kind of writing about what he wants to do for the day instead of his fault to have Arale, but many people did speak about doing morning pages as well, which is kind of the same day by. Julia Cameron, and is about kind of I think it's quite a lot of pages to pounce base. I kind of writing out your fault for the day in what you want to achieve. So I mean, we mentioned all this different things. You can do and your morning routine. You can get up you're going to take a walk. Maybe you're gonna meditate or going to possibly maybe look over your to do list. Maybe journal maybe do some meditation. But I think one thing I've seen in my own life. And in the lives of people who tried to start monitoring the they want to do so much, right? They try to cram in a ton. So they ended up they try to cram in so much. They don't actually can't do their morning routine in just give up on the concepts. How'd you any advice there on on not trying to cram so much into your morning routine? Here's like how long should you morning routine last? Right. Like what what's the the right length for that? Yes. We really didn't give a link to it. We often say it's kind of what you can allow and like I mentioned earlier if you feel like is not enough time, then cut up wake up five minutes early and kind of go from that. But eight may really does change everyone. So some people might want to our chain. But that might be incredibly stream of as he might want more of a half hour routine. And I think it's very important to just figure out what you want in the RAV them figuring out what the main length is. And then definitely starting small meditation ten minute workout in stretching routine religious mate show. The you get all the elements in the even if it's not for a particularly long amount of time. And then if you'll really enjoying something if you'll really enjoy working out, you're really enjoying good for the dream Jim than Eva increase those items at expensive others. I'll just increase the amount of time of your morning routine in general are so you don't have to go big with us. Thank you can just go small. No, you really don't. And like, it's definitely when you go for the book, you kind of have some streams bench in general mcchrystal Elian like his routine effing Lhasa free, free and a half by even four hours. There are extremists apples in the incredibly fun to read. But I think that also they're they're also great wear showing the you that you can take some elements from people's routines. You can take this from this person this from that. But you really don't need to go the whole hog with any of them. So one thing you also cover the book, and you mentioned this earlier morning routines with parents because before I had kids I had a pretty awesome morning routine. Like it was at so much time. It could journal for thirty minutes. I could meditate for a long time. I could do this and whatever. And then I had kids in the newborn phase is crazy like you. There's no routine because like the baby's going to got to eat. Or like, it's got to change its diaper. So what did you find that people? Did how did they just their morning routines? When kids came into the same. Yes. So this was a real tough one. And we won't have kinda wanna make make it clear hair that we we definitely acknowledged the fact the ammonia team for parents of young kids. The parents of any kids to be on us is going to be incredibly different from monitoring team. But you do not have kids. But that said we do make the point of kids do fry on having not themselves. So if you can kind of get this routine as soon as possible of a newborn, this is tough. But as soon as is generally possible, if you can kind of bring a routine into that lives that will help you as well. And one thing that we really really do advocate. If possible is once your kids on a sleep schedule as much as much as can be as as once on that is the kind of try to wake up a full them. And this is tough, especially if you've been off the night with them. But when you wake up a full them, you kind of have this little bit of time. It could just be fifteen minutes often, Allah in which you can kind of do some stuff yourself before you have to kind of get on with the day. And this. This is tough is really isn't would not advocating that this is the best way to do things. But it really is kind of the only way to continue on with that routine. When you do have young kids in the house so adjust your expectations. You no longer have an hour of person of me time know, you might ask you fifteen minutes, and you've got to be okay with that. I think a adjustments adjustment expectations would have been a great putter flat shops. And then when your kids are out of the house, you'll get back. Your our meantime, then you'll be sad because there's no kids in her house anymore. Yes. I le-let's nothing. We planned this out in the reversal section of the parents chapter is that a is only temporary in a good and bad way. Like, you'll definitely miss it. When it's gone. But then, you know, you'll have you'll meet signed back. So that's definitely a positive there as well. Okay. So another challenge with morning routines is there's a lot of people who travel right or they're. Yeah. The traveling. Right. So you go to a different place. We don't have your stuff. You don't have your chair to sit in the typically sit in to do whatever you do there. So how do you adapt routines or maintain a routine? When you're away from home. Yes. So sticking to a on routines when we're traveling almost feel like an impossible tusk, so often we just kind of go of the flow and kinda full analysis break jeans with kind of bringing in these unhealthy habits. This is especially true. If you stay in hotel, but what we write in the book is that you can make you moan Jane kind of work for you, it it might not be xactly the same. But one way to do this is to kind of think about how working for example out of a hotel room Comanche. Make you more productive. So if you'll, you know, you're at a conference with something you have to spend half an hour just working if you're in a hotel room, you kind of have distractions. You can't real is your desk, you come clean out. The fridge you kind of have nothing that that enemy of lights kind of distract ourselves with. So that's one great way to get something out of it. And another thing to think about when you're going on the trip. It self is to kind of be small about you'll scheduling. So if you know that you sleep well on planes, you should try to work to travel overnight seeking wake up refreshed and ready to get on with your morning routine. The next day. And if like many of us, you know that you don't sleep while on flights. If you just used to fly in the evenings the kind of getting in at night, and you can have that night in the hotel room. But definitely the most important thing to think about when we're out to your morning routine. When traveling is you really shouldn't be yourself off. And it's totally normal your routine to not be as for not be as efficient when traveling the this. This is tough you just need to allow for these inefficiencies just know why you'll that. No, you'll traveling for work traveling vacation no way of doing it. And kind of just let set aside just worry about it. When you get home. I thought it was really interesting for the extreme travelers people who were traveling all the time they had like different route morning routines based on which city they were in prior actually go to the city's regularly. So they've been established routine. So they they know. Well, if I'm in Chicago, I'm going to go to this place and do this thing before going to work from New York City. I do this or that from in Dallas, I'll do this or that. Yeah. That that was pretty fascinating. I I totally see how that works. If you do have the kind of job where you are into a free differ. Places quite frequently than you can kind of create real real morning routines in these places. But if you'll traveling has got them all sporadic kind of more into random destinations than definitely gonna have the idea of what you can do in a hotel room, the what you can do in abbey obey wherever you're staying and kind of just go from the the hotel thing hotel trick I've found there's I've done this. This has nothing to do with morning teams. But when I've had a lot of work, and I gotta get done and eat no distractions. I will actually go to a hotel here in town, pay a hundred bucks and just work. 'cause no one knows where I'm at Nike undis- complete distraction free works. Yeah. I guess putt actions. And also, the fact that you know, you've paid that you want you want to get something out of that payment. The most extreme originally I heard there's some guy who he needed to get a book done. And so he bought a plane round trip tickets to Japan, and he just wrote the entire time there. And then like he as soon as you got to Japan, you got on the plane back. And road. I think he paid like two thousand dollars, but he got the book done. Yeah. You you. You would want an upgrade for that. You would not want to do that in a colony right now. So those are those are extreme tactics. One of those things where it's it's just interesting to know about you might not do so. Yeah, you mentioned this about being flexible with your morning routine because I think a lot of people think, okay. I got a morning routine have to stick to it always for the rest of my life. And if I miss it like my days ruined. But yes, I know you shouldn't have that attitude towards it yet. No. That's totally right. And like, we always we have this question at the end, we ask every single interview interview both from the book on the website. And the question is what happens when you fail to fully him on routine on any given day and is interesting because while some say that this message up for the entire day. The vast majority of people who on says question say that they kind of really let it slide in just make sure that they get back to the next day. And that really is kind of like the crux of the book, the most important thing to think about is when you have a routine, you you. You can you can do it every single day. But do not be Asaf up. If you miss a day, and I was like bring up the example of a Jerry Seinfeld. Had this of when he when he's writing jokes. He has this big wall calendar and everything he writes, Joe he'll put a big red x on that day. He calls a chain. And the the point of the big red access to save wrote a joke that day. And then he says you'll main goal now is not break that chain suggest to make sure you get a big crowd in day every single day. And while this is a great day is a really great way to make sure you get your writing done, you get your work done. Whatever you want to get done. It's terrible. If you miss a day, you kinda feel like everything has gone wrong in Yukon continue anymore. So the point of what we really let's make in the book is that just because you miss a day or if he missed two free days, don't worry about it. Like don't aim don't aim for that to be a goal. But if it happens, if you mess up if the some reason kick get psychologist something happens don't worry about it in just to get back to the next day. A how is your morning routine changed since you've after plead this? Book in working on the site for six years with the looking like right now. Yeah, if much better light, what's interesting is I am not an extreme moaning routine person by any any means I am not getting up at four AM. I typically get up between about seven seven thirty. And once I get up out of the bathroom, and then I'll come into the kitchen, and then I typically do a ten minute meditation, followed by about ten note, many less than I should do jumping jacks, and then some push ups, and then I just make breakfast my wife while she gets ready. And then during this time, I don't check my phone to my phone on airplane mode in the kitchen overnight. So I don't check it unless I have a meeting, but for the most that's okay. And then we just sit on have breakfast together kind of slowly. And we just talk about the day ahead. And the great thing about this routine. Is she has hus- bay. She's allowed to get ready. You know, while I'm in the kitchen making breakfast. And then in that time when with eeking not talking about the news when talking about, you know, what someone just stayed in the press or something like that. We had just literally sitting down and talking about days, and it's a really. Relaxing way to start the day, especially when you consider many of our lives nowadays, which is just, you know, being inundated with emails being inundated with things to do is a really nice way to continue on the calm of the night into the morning read so morning routines. Could be a way to connect with those you love I'll tell it. Yeah. Is that many people spoke live, especially those with families with young kids? Just really talk about the importance of just if they can often people have to leave early they if they can just having breakfast together having that moment of connection cause for many people, especially with younger kids. He may come home that over the bed. So just having those time in the morning is a really great way to connect really great way to be together, a family curious. Did you come across any routines? That really didn't seem like a routine like they're just like, I, you know, it's not it's not what typical morning routine. You think it would be a morning routine? They're just I don't know. I don't wanna I'm trying to ask your. Yes. It was like completely random, right? Yeah. We've definitely had a feel as on the website. I ain't got none of those really made it into the book because on the website. We've published close to just play the free hundred routines now that sixty four in the book many of which a. Brand new the majority of brand new for the book. But yet we we do interviews people sometimes and it's fascinating. So what they talk about is great. So we do publish it. But I'm like, I'm not sure if that's entirely entirely what you would do every day. All right. So there's like one thing. Someone can start doing today to make their morning routine better tomorrow. What would be that recommendation like it's an easy ROI, but super easy and implement. Yes. So I would say the best thing, and this is kind of outside of the box for the most important thing is to just make sure you get enough sleep the night before and like that so many people come to me, they don't get enough sleep. But they wanted to how to improve routine that really truly is the onset because if you'll tired if you'll just constantly grow. Hey, you constantly lacking. In sleep. You not going to get in. You can have the best morning routine in the world could have all these exercise elements that you could meditate you could do all these things. But if you'll asleep while doing these things, you're really not going to get the most out of it. So definitely the number one tip is to just make sure you type in the morning will Benjamin is there someplace people can go to learn more. More about the book in your work. Yes, you can order the book right now by going to my morning routine dot com slash book, which has links to Amazon everyone else or you can head to your local bookstore. Noble anywhere, the of assault, and you can find me Presley at Benjamin spol- dot com and on Twitter Instagram at ATs. Benjamin's bull Benjamin Spall you. Switch your time. It's been a pleasure. Thanks for. Having me. Bryce been great Mike say was Benjamin, Paul. He's the co author of the book my morning routine. It's able to Amazon dot com and bookstores everywhere you can find more information about his work at my morning, routine dot com. Also, check at our show notes at AOL dot com slash morning routine. Ring find links to resources ring delve deeper into this topic. Well that wraps up. Another addition of the art of manliness podcast for more. Manly. Tips advice. Make sure the art of manliness website at art of dot com. Got four thousand articles over there. Check those out yet. 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Pick the Right Health Insurance Plan for You & Your Wallet
"If you've ever found yourself staring at your health insurance options. During open enrollment just trying to make some sense out of all those option this episodes for you proba beverage grab your options. And let's figure out what is best for your wallet and your lifestyle. I'm Sean accounting game. This is Mario money and say we're talking to pick the right health insurance plan for you. Millennia money Shana calmed in. It will expand your brain. Okay. This has been one of those weeks. This is just been such a crazy week. I could not do a podcast and absolutely not talk about it. We live about fifteen miles or so from the border line shootings and Thousand Oaks, so waking up hearing about that last week was just crazy. I mean in this is a tiny community, it's not tiny. But it's real homie community. And I know a lot of people that live up there in Thousand Oaks, I certainly driven by the borderline so many times just without even thinking about it and to your that there was a nother mass shooting. There was just so incredibly heartbreaking. And so that was crazy that was on a Wednesday and then Thursday was actually our fifth wedding anniversary. And we planned this amazing day. Jeff. Plan this five year vow renewal ceremony and we were going to do something very sweet and the whole week. I was just feeling not like myself at all just a really terrible physically. This. Your thing is really bizarre. My body is totally rundown. And I'm having to have just a ton of different tests, and doctors and points acupuncturists and AMR is and all sorts of things that of course, I never anticipated nor really wanted to have to do. But that is just what life is thrown at me right now. So we decided on that Thursday. Let's change plans because the having vowel renewal ceremony right now, probably not the best idea of just not feeling exactly physically up to it. So our day consisted of crazy things like running from doctors and getting blood tests. And we decided you know, what we're gonna go and we're going to have an amazing anniversary. Lunch, and we're just gonna go by the beach, and we're going to hang out one of our favorite restaurants, and we're going to order, whatever the heck we want, and we're just gonna have such a great time. I've not had a Alan of an alcoholic beverage and probably a month since all of this has happened. But I was like I'm going to order of really big Margarita, and I'm gonna down that thing, and I'm gonna love every single sip. So we drove down to the beach, and we went to one of our favorite restaurants, and we just totally indulged in whatever we wanted. It was one of those just crazy one hundred dollar bless lunches, which we never do. But it was just it was such a great time for me, at least just feel some sense of normalcy. But as we repeating Malibu we were driving back up the canyon that connects over to where we live, and we started to see the fire approaching and his were driving through the. Nyan? We're looking each other like my God is the fire actually in this canyon that were driving because it just was getting darker and darker and darker, and we finally made it out to the freeway in finally made it home in where we live. We are kind of surrounded by two of the bigger fires here in Los Angeles. That happened the the Wolsey fire and the hill fire. I think that's what they're called. They're both very very close to where we live the impact our freeways canyons, the very close to where my parents live. And so it's it's kind of you can't escape it. And we actually just made it to the freeway before they started to close the freeway and got home safely, of course. But it has been just a crazy couple of days between everything compacted in a short period of time. But also in a really Spall geographic area because the shootings and the fires. It's all in this really small radius, and it it it's just. Been unbelievable to watch up. Never seen a fire. We have fires all the time out here in California. It's it's kind of a unfortunately thing that is sort of a norm and they start when these crazy winds start, and this one is just been terrible. It's been horrific and the amount of acreage that has burned through it. Absolutely. Is blowing my lined. So we're doing whatever we can hear tell people locally how people in our community. I'm gonna put only to the Red Cross and the LA fire department foundation in the show notes. In case, you wanna donate, those are two reputable places that you can donate, and you can help out because there are so many people who have lost their homes, and I know a little bit of the pushback on social medias like well, a lot of these are celebrities or people that millions of dollars in. Yes. Of course, if we're talking about Malibu, there are a lot of people there that have. A ton of money. So they lost their houses, but still they lost their house. And that's really it's really hard thing to comprehend when suddenly you lose everything. So the point is just an any tragedy that happens in the US abroad, anywhere. I think we can all pull together. It just it helps us feel human. I think certainly when I help out after tragedies it just makes me feel like, okay? You know, at the end of the day, there's all sorts of bad stuff out there. But we're all connected and genuinely speaking all really liked people. Now, I know there's some people out there that don't like to help people, but I would say on most of us really do have a soft heart and certainly like to help people. So I was thinking about today's episode. And I knew I wanted to do an episode about health insurance. And I wanted to come up with some way that you know, maybe we can make it a little bit more interesting. And then I was thinking about the different things that that we've been through this year, the different health challenges that we've been through and an open enrollment for many of you is still happening. Most of you open enrollment closes mid December December fifteenth. So I got a lot of. Questions particularly in the last couple of weeks about open enrollment how to make the best choice when it comes to health insurance. And I thought okay. All right. All right. I get the memo I'm up for the challenge. Let's just do an episode about health insurance. But maybe let's try to have a little fun with it. If we can I know that's that's a very daunting task. But let's see what we can do about it. So I did a little research about health insurance in the United States in the history. And I found this a little bit interesting. So health insurance in the US dated back to the eighteen hundreds. And of course, we wanted to do things differently than Europe. We didn't want to have the socialist system. We were America we were trying to do something different other. That's a good thing. Or not a good thing. I think we're all still trying to figure that out. But I found this article that had some really interesting history gonna read some bits from the so the earliest formalized records in America's history of health care. Dated towards the end of the nineteenth century. This was the time of the industrial revolution. Brought the steel mill jobs to the US many big cities had these steel meals and the dangerous nature of that work led to a lot of work price. Injuries. People getting hurt people were getting sick. And then as the manufacturing jobs really started to become prevalent, the unions grew and of course, everything grew out from the unions. But in order to really shield the union members from financial loss due to injury or illness. They began to offer these different types of they call them than sickness protection. And it was not working at all. And most of the decisions about who got healthcare and who didn't were serve on trial airbases. There was no standard for this. It was just okay doesn't make sense to give this person treatment or not and cover it a non and. So it was real, of course, totally antiquated system. But then the nineteen hundreds came along in the turn of the century. There was really this big push in the US for organized medicine, and that led to the American Medical Association AMA, and the AMA was growing stronger and stronger at gained about sixty two thousand doctors during that next decade, but because the working class the United States, it wasn't supportive of the idea of this type of healthcare. The US really didn't see any growth that the European nations would see until soon after that. So the twenty sixth president of the United States, actually Theodore Roosevelt. He was a nineteen eighty one to nineteen thousand nine and he really believes that health insurance was super important because quote, he said, no country could be strong whose people were sick poor. Of course, that makes sense, even so. Oh, he didn't lead the change for stronger healthcare in America most of the initiative for it was really in the early nineteen hundreds and it was led by organizations outside of the government. And those organizations just got stronger and stronger really made a push for healthcare seeing that people needed those people needed some sort of coverage in order to be able to go to doctors so financially they could still pay their bills, and they could still provide for their family. But if they were sick or they were injured or they needed some sort of surgery that there was something there that help them, which of course, makes sense now, I mean, you think about it. It's like why what took them so long or what them so long to evolve into something that. That makes sense. I mean, if you get the healthcare system in the US were still evolving, we're still trying to get this thing, right and were trying all of these different iterations. And the only thing that really is happening is the health insurance companies are getting fatter and fatter pockets the drug companies are getting fatter and fatter pockets and people are really struggling. I know a lot of my friends are having a tough time. Really if they have a big surgery or even those who have a baby during a year, and they're having to pay for all of these medical expenses or sometimes they have to go out of network to see a doctor, and it's just really expensive. And it's frustrating when you're trying to have student loans, and you're trying to buy a house and start a family and achieve all these other goals. And then, of course, in the last few years things have really changed in the US. When the Healthcare Act came about a lot of companies now are saying, okay, look, we're not gonna cover all the healthcare anymore. You employees. You're going to have to pay some money towards the healthcare expenses on a lot of people just freaked out a lot a lot of my friends. Call me in just complete horror. Like, what am I supposed to do? Now, they want me to pay monthly premiums. This is ridiculous. I work for this company. They should be covering this. But I think this is really the the trend that is going to happen. They're going to be fewer and fewer companies that actually cover all of the healthcare costs. And when I started working in the financial industry who way back in two thousand six which appeals like four ever ago. I partnered up with my dad who had been in the financial industry for forty plus years, and we are working on super complex cases with families who had fish. Eighty million dollars net worth and up, and we were solving all sorts of issues for them financially. But I also started helping my friends with health insurance because a lot of my friends were asking me like what should I do? What plan should I choose? I don't know how to figure that any of this out. And it was it was crazy because I I it felt very intuitive. I guess or natural for me. And then I started to realize like enough of my friends are asking me this that there must be something really confusing about this. And maybe I can I can help I can shine some light. And around the time. I also got my master's in business from Pepperdine university and most my friends, then who had MBA's who had these big corporate fancy jobs. They had no idea how to think about personal finance. What options were good for them? What they should do with their money. All of these things, I think that was really diesel Genesis for this podcast. Just seeing this gap. Between what you need to know. And the information that you actually have easy access to and then finding it in a voice that made sense. And I thought okay, if I can stand up at a platform, or if I can talk or if I can write an article, or I could do something that maybe helps translate or demystified some of the stuff, then maybe that's my calling. If you will. Maybe that's what I'm supposed to be doing. And so every year, I'd gather up some friends, and we'd go to a local favorite restaurant that we love we'd spread out all of our healthcare options. And we with penciled out. I bring a note pad for each person with pencils. And we kind of go through the system of figuring out which option was best for each person. And we'd have fun like we'd have some drinks. We'd have really good food, and we'd have fun. Figuring this out in your after here. The screw. Grew and grew until we had a really big group, and we actually had to rent a really big kind of back room in this one restaurant. And then I realize like okay message received loud and clear picking a healthcare option is confusing. And if I can get everyone to think about what is best beyond price beyond price because that that's really important when we're talking about healthcare options that they would be able to pick the option that is really best for their their lifestyle their health or wallet their family, all sorts of things. So while we can't all sit around a table together. 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It's good to save money. I'm a big fan of saving money. But it's also good to choose a health plan. That's just point to flat out work for you family for your budget. Whatever situation you're in. And they are not all created equal, for instance. I teach at a university here in Los Angeles, and one of the amazing benefits is that I get health insurance covered, which is great because I've been self employed for my entire career, and I've had to pay out of pocket for health insurance my entire career, except when I started to teach at this university. But even with good planning and not paying a lot of premium each month for health insurance. We got just downright walloped this year with health costs. Jeff had this weird back thing that happened a couple of months ago, and he couldn't even hock. And so I had to call the ambulance to our house, and they took him to the emergency room. We spent ten hours in the Burnitz he room and thank God. He's better. Everything was fine. It was just some weird strenuous reaction to drug. He was taking prescription drug prescription drug might I say, and so he. It's fine now, but but that was inexpensive expensive really short ride to the hospital because anytime you have to take an ambulance. Oh, just bring out the wallet. Because you're gonna have to pay up anytime you have to go emergency room. Oh, you better believe you're gonna hit all your deductibles, everything just just open your Bank account and say here, what do you want? You can have it. So that was one thing. And then we, of course, pay those bills and then right after that, my crazy who's ING my hearing thing happened. And so then there's mariah's and acupuncture and blood tests and doctors visits and hearing tests and all sorts of craziness just back to back to back. So our little health insurance plan has gotten coup height, the workout this year, we have totally maxed out our health benefits. But we had a plan in place in case that happened in those. That's something I want you to think about because we don't think about it very often. If you're healthy, if you've never been to the doctor or I won't say never been to the doctor. But let's say you go to the doctor couple times a year. You get sick. Maybe maybe go in for flu shot, maybe going for your annual physical something like that. They're not big deal things. You're not gonna pay a lot of money for those things. In fact, you're not it's not even going to be blip in your Bank account. You're not gonna notice that you paid for those things. Maybe you have a prescription drug or something you take every month, you pay a couple of bucks here there. But again, not a big deal. But if you're somebody who's had some sort of big medical something in your past. Or maybe you're in it. Now, you know, you're playing can get a really hefty workout. And I think the unfortunate thing is. Of course, we can't plan for any of this. Nobody has a crystal Paul. We don't know what's going to happen. So we don't know how to think about this. And so I think that's what brings up a lot of confusion with the health plan as well. I choose this plan. But if something happens to me, I probably rather this plan, but we don't know that. So we're just trying to decipher with the information that we've got at hand. So I did have a couple of questions about the difference between an HSA an FSA account. And I don't want to go into a ton of detail on this. I did a whole episode about eight HSA health savings accounts. So go back and check that out if you wanna know more about that. But the F essay the main thing with FA is it's the flexible spending account is it's use it or lose it. So whatever money you put your episode if you don't use that money, it's gone. But by any your Audio's HSA is not like that. Whatever money you put an HSA it rolls over from year to year. So there's a lot more flexibility in the health savings account in there is in the flexible spending. So if you're thinking about the flexible spending account, I always tend to underestimate for flexible spending because I don't want to get to the end of the year and have money leftover. I'm scrambling to like go to all these crazy doctors that I really don't wanna go to. But if you've got money left in your office say, you know, we still had a few weeks before the end of the year. So just make sure you use it up because I really don't like to see people lose money, but with health insurance, you've got three things to think about you've got your deductible. This is the amount of money that you need to come out of pocket yourself before your health plan starts kicking and gear. So whether that's five hundred bucks thousand bucks five thousand bucks. Whatever that is you need to know your deductible number number two are your co pays and your co insurance. So this means Kobe's when you go to the doctor how much are you going to have to pay for that particular? Visit and co-insurance is the split. So you'll either see like eighty twenty or seventy thirty or sixty forty the first number means how much the insurance company is going to pay the second number is how much your responsible for. So again impose. To know what that co-insurance split is. So once you hit your deductible, then you go into that co-insurance amount. And you're in that co-insurance mount for the majority of the year in less, something dramatic happens. Then the third thing is your out of pocket max, and this is like the God forbid number. This is the number that if something really bad happens to you that is the maximum amount of money you will have to pay in any given year for your health insurance plan. So that number most of us will not hit most of us will not hit that year after year after year, most of us don't even care about that number. But you should know what that number is. Because if you're in the situation where you do hit your out of pocket max. Wow. You are going to feel that number and a lot of the health plans now have really large out of pocket. Max numbers doesn't mean you need to freak out about it just needs you need to be. Be a little aware that that is a possibility. So the first thing I think you think about is in the last year how many times did I go to the doctor day? Just go to the doctor for cat got sick. I got a cold. Maybe I got the flu maybe annual physical. But no big deal. Just I went to the doctor a couple of times a year so figure that out. I is that normal for you is that kind of what you expect every year. And then do I have any surgery or do I anticipate getting pregnant next year? Yes, ladies, I'm going to tell you if you even remotely thinking about getting pregnant, make sure that you fully understand your deductible. Your co insurance and your out of pocket max because likely will hit all of those in the year. And you just wanna make sure your financially prepared for that. Or sometimes you'll get pregnant. Of course, you can't. I'm really pragmatic. So if I tried to get pregnant, I probably try to plan it out properly all within one year. But okay, we know the reality of that is it's not gonna happen. So chances army be get pregnant somewhere in the middle of the year. And then you end up having baby in the next year. So you're gonna hit your deductible and some things in one year. And then the next year, you're probably gonna hate you're out of the pocket MAC. So just something for you to be aware of another thing is do I have enough money saved? But I pay my deductible. If I had to if the answer is no, I highly suggest you start there you start saving some money in a separate high yield savings account open, Marcus account or an ally or synchrony or discover Bank, whatever one whatever flavor you like best open one of those and just name, it your deductible savings accounts that cash is there if you need it, and you're not gonna have to go to day, you're not gonna have to credit. Card over scrambling around. Also think about our all my doctors still considered in network next year. And this is something that we don't think about a lot. But because there's a lot of scrambling going on in the health insurance industry, a lot of the doctors moving in and out of different networks. I know I was just I went to my allergist like a month ago with the year thing thinking, well, maybe this is a weird sinus or allergy thing, and I go to check in. And they're like, oh, did we let you know that we're now out of network? I'm like what I already made this employment here. Now, you're telling me, I'm out of network fine. So I had to pay a fairly large office. Visit. But things like that it's important if you if you've got these certain doctors that you go to that you're going to at least find out. Okay. Are they covered under this plan? And then doesn't make sense for you to be on your spouse or partners health insurance, if you can versus your own again, you've got to look at all the options. You gotta look at the deductible. You've got. The co pays and the co insurance you got to look at the out of pocket max, and not just the monthly premium all of the factors together is what's going to help you decide which plan makes most for so last week just commuting sample. And if you haven't taken a drink of your beverage by now in this episode, I highly suggest you do. 'cause you know, we're talking about health insurance here, right? We can have a little fun with this. So last week, I met with my friend. Valerie. And we went through those. We sat down we had great lunch over she had a beverage. I didn't have a beverage, but normally would and we went through all options. So she's thirty six she works as a copywriter for pretty large company, but she doesn't have kids, and she isn't married. So in terms of choosing a health plan. She's Scott fairly simple situation. All of her options came with higher deductibles were all thousand dollars plus options, and her lawyer doesn't cover all the costs so plans ranged from fifty bucks to three hundred dollars a month, depending on deductible. So normally the higher the doctoral you have the lower the premium the lower deductible, the higher the premium they blew those lovers tend to work like that. So she has five thousand dollars saved and her. Emergency fund, but she knows she needs to save more. And she had a hand injury. If you years ago, and she still has these issues. So she's thinking that she might need to have another surgery soon maybe next year. So she goes to the doctor about four times a year when she sick, she uses urgent care facilities, and in her plan, if she goes to the urgent care over her regular, doctor she actually saves money. So for her it's it's benefit and she gets the same kind of care, so she could care less. But since her health insurance is a pre tax deduction on her paycheck. She went with a plan that was one hundred twenty five dollars a month that had a twenty five hundred dollar doctoral these were just her options. So she had to pay out for surgery she could with her emergency fund. But she was okay with the monthly premium knowing that she had an eighty twenty co insurance plan. So again, turns company after deductible. They pay eighty percent of the coughs. She pays twenty percent and all her doctors were in this plan. So she's. Pretty pretty happy with this. She didn't want to go with a higher deductible plan. She wanted to kind of stay in the middle because she knew she had this five thousand dollars set aside, she could use that if she had to and then her action plan was just she wanted to save honor and fifty dollars extra month in emergency fund, just to keep beefing it up. So that was that was her that actually took us a couple of hours to go through all that. Of course, we talked about other stuff than health insurance. But we really went through each option, and we kinda pencil them out pros cons with each different options to all of the different factors. And then what we ended up doing was we ended up tossing out the the lower option tossing up higher option. And we went we had a couple medium range options. And we just went, okay? Which one of these feels right because at the end of the day. It's it's kinda like that. Which are these feels right? And that's how she ended up making choice. But what happens if you have a bad year, and you really give your health insurance or workout was a couple of things. I've. Learned over the years. Couple tricks that. I don't know if you call them tricks, but one is that no that you can always negotiate a payment plan for big bills, and you should because most of the payment plans with a hospital or something like that. If you have to have surgery, you can normally most hospitals, I'm going to say, I'm not gonna say every hospital, but most hospitals, you can usually get zero percent interest rate. So it gives you time to have your money working for you while you're also paying off zero percents. Awesome. If I can get if I o hospital fifteen hundred bucks, and I can get zero percent for a year, and I pay that off over year. I'm a happy camper. Because I know then how much I'm gonna pay every single month of wanna pay more great. But if not no big deal. So I always ask for the lowest payment option, and then I pay more if I can. But I don't stress about it. There were time when I had a kidney stone many many years ago, and I got a a Bill from the emergency. An I just freaked out. I'm like, oh my gosh. I can't believe I owe this much money, and I want oh, wait, I negotiate a payment plan with them. And okay, this is fine. And so I think don't stress about it and look at your benefits. Do you have vision care? We have in care we get contacts in new glasses every single year and we've max out those benefits dental if you have it get cleanings, even if you hate I hate going to the dentist, even if you hate going to Janice just max out those benefits that you get or any other savings that you have in your plan beyond top of that. So you can really work your plan. The right the right way. And then if you're in a super serious pinch like something, really bad happens. You have to go to the hospital, and you know, that Bill is just going to be ridiculous. There's actually credit card called the care credit card, and it's one of the best that I've seen you can use it for big surgeries. For unexpected expenses cosmetic surgeries dental surgeries Lazic even vet bills. If your dog or cat or animal, maybe of a horse gets really sick. And they need a surgery and those can be so super expensive. You can use the care credit card for that. I've had a lot of friends that have used it over the years, and they just it's totally safe their life because they have payment plans, and they have lower interest options than other credit cards would have. So it's designed specifically for health care bills things like that. So I would look at that. If you're thinking of something really big, and you're just thinking, there's no way I have the cash for nor do I want to pay all the cash, but at the end of the day some years, you're gonna get it. Right. You're gonna have a good plan some years, you might guess wrong. And you might have to come out of pocket with more cash, and that's totally okay. You're looking again for that that meeting. Where is the sweet spot with your deductible with your co pay co insurance with your monthly premium where is the spot where you feel copy that if you had to cover some costs if something happened that you could that you are in a good position to do it in. If all the options, you're looking at and you're thinking, I'm not a good position for any of these options. Then do the work build in your budget every month a little bit of cash that you can put into a special savings account just for health stuff and just keep that cash there don't touch it. Because you're really gonna think yourself that you did it when you need to when you need to turn to that cash. It's going to be there for you. So you don't have to freak out or you don't have to go into more debt. You don't have to beg borrow and steal from friends. You have that money set aside and? Again, I always urged my friends and people come to me about this is to think past the monthly premium because our brains are tuned to go. Okay. What's the lowest premium? Okay. I'm gonna choose that option. That's just what we're tuned to do because we do that with so many of things we do that. When we go shopping or when we're looking for a plane flight, we're just looking for like, okay? Just get me there at the lowest price, but there are certainly some things in life some financial decisions that you make where you can't just make the decision on price. You have to look at the other factors and you have to look at it in whole. So that you may not make the best decision or you may choose wrong one year, but you're not just solely isolating monthly premium. Because that's where it starts to get a little wishy washy when it comes to health insurance. So hopefully, you have a way better healthier than I've had hopefully, you just going to the doctor you get your shot. Shots got your annual physical. And it's not a big deal. But at least just prepare yourself rolling in to a new year coming up and just had that like little item to your to list. Just make sure that you find out what your deductible is find out what your co insurances. Find out what you're out of pocket. Maxes just have a little wariness around it. So, you know, if you were to get in a situation like, hey, you gotta covered. It's no big deal. Hey, thanks so much for joining us on this episode of millennial money, I'll be back on Friday with a fresh episode for you check out. But in the meantime, if you love this episode, and you found value in the content we share with you. I totally predate it if you do me a favor head on over to itunes rate and review the podcast. I promise to be your BFF for life.
I Want My Man To Spoil Me
"I'm Alex, I know I have a new podcast. Let's get into. It is all about tackling the stuff you and I wanNA know each week I'm joined by a friend and a wisdom tree, and we discuss everything you want to know about money. Love Your relationships, even fitness and mental health I love having deep conversations with my friends. And now it's your turn to get in on. Listen to Alex, Iona, let's get into it on iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. Geno today there are primaries in Delaware and New Jersey. Yes, they got primaries today, so get your mass. Put It on. Go out there and. That's it to get your mass and go out and vote, and if you're not registered to vote, didn't go to our first lady. Forever Michelle Obama's voted initiative website we when we all vote dot org. That's when we all vote dot, or take the next step to make your voice heard. Get your mass. Get you go. Go out there and vote. Komo Delaware headlines done just get it. Time for today's strawberry letter, and if you need advice on relationship, dating work, sex, or whatever other problems you go on through, submit your strawberry letter to Steve, Harvey Dot Com and Click Submit Straw Berry Letter Day you go. Here, we go. Lettuce subject I. Want my man to spoil me. Dear Stephen. Shirley I've been dating my boyfriend for two years and it was really good. For the first year we spent a lot of quality time together and got to know each other by going on some great dates. Well now that we've been together for awhile and he started saying that he loves me. He feels that's enough to make me happy. He won't do the things he did in the beginning. I don't give flowers anymore. He doesn't take me to lunch like he used to. Whom we go on dates is because I. Ask him all make plans for us in advance. We've been talking about marriage and and looking at rings. He's loving, and we have an emotional connection, but I wanna be spoiled, and he no longer does that I've been married before, and although my ex husband and I did not get along. He didn't make a big deal out of my birthday holidays and special occasions to let me know that I am loved and appreciated. That's all I need my boyfriend to do and I. Try not to mention how my ex husband did things, but I can't help, but dropped hints here and there I had a birthday recently. And we're limited on celebrating in public because of covid nineteen. So I figured he would do something special. He got me flowers from the grocery store and he picked up olive garden for my birthday dinner. I didn't even get a card. By the way I've been withholding sex just like he's been withholding the sweet things he used to do for me. I, just make up excuses without telling him why I don't WanNa have sex with. Am I wrong for feeling this way. Is it okay to tell him that I wanna be sport without sounding like a spoiled Brat? Well. You know what you've been dating your boyfriend for two years in the beginning. You guys spent quality time together. You know going great dates, and it's always good you know in the beginning is always good in the beginning, because you're getting to know each other and it's and it's fun, but now time has passed, and you say you're man isn't doing the things. Things, he did in the beginning. You don't get flowers anymore. No lunch dates, or or if you guys even do anything you planned it so for your birthday. Due to covert nineteen year plans were limited, he picked up takeout from olive garden and flowers from the grocery store, and you've been withholding sex and making up excuses not to be intimate with your man. Deep down. You're really angry at your boyfriend because he is not spoiling you, you all have been looking at ring so obviously you ready for the next step. You guys have been talking about marriage, but girl listening to me. Communication is the key. Tell him how you feel. Tell your man how you feel you. Mitch and your ex husband and how he used to spoil you, but you guys didn't get along, so that really doesn't matter because you guys went to separate ways. You gotTA divorce. So who cares, but now you WANNA drop hints to your boyfriend and tell him how your ex husband. Husband used this fall. You don't be petty petty. Don't be petty and don't be vindictive. Just talk to you, man, tell your man you love him for him, but you need to feel wanted. You WanNa feel desired and spoil and need and just tell them all the things that you want could compromise. He can hear you why if he really loves you and there you are, you'll. You'll get these things but I. Understand how you feel woman. I understand what you're saying, but bringing up your ex husband and what he used to do that. That's that's order. That's petty and been dictated seeks. Agree! Totally I think she had a good response to the letter K. find nothing wrong with that, so let me just talk to you from a different perspective here we go. You've been dating do for two years. There's good in the beginning and ain't they all the up. All of us good and it again yeah. I've been any good in beginning. What is it? Oh but every year so then guest are changing a little bit. He stopped doing a great thing said he used to do. He tells me loves me and he feels that that would be enough. Make me happy. and. He won't do the things I did in the beginning. I don't give flowers anymore. He don't take me to lunch like he used to. When we go on dates is because I asked you. We've been talking about managing looking at rings. He's loving and we have an emotional connection, but I want to be spoiled and he no longer does that well. Let me stop right here. Looping late on C.. You decided to tell me and call it what it is that you been. So what Shubin doing is! You've been withholding sex because you want to be spoiled. Newsflash coming from Uncle Steve men like to be spoiled to Oh, news flash. Men like to be spoiled to. So. Why are you withholding sex? But that's why you ain't got no damn flowers. Maybe. That's why in drug your ass nobody. By to give a damn about covert. We'd have. Is Sex up in hill. Eat! The `fridgerator. Me It like to be spall too now. We own to something when I come back. Here some real mess with Joe Putz. was going up at twenty three minutes after out me like the Peace Ball. Two. You're listening to. Morning Show. Off! Let's go ahead and get a part of your answer man. Let's recap this letter today you know. Late Monday newsman two years. He's do all this great dates talking laughing bynum stuff now after two years. He told her he loved her and he don't do the things he did in the beginning she on the flowers, no molehill and taking on the gun lunch like he used to. You gotta ask him to learn that. We've been talking about getting married. And he's loving. y'All got emotional connection but I WANNA be small. Spa Spoiled and he no longer does that. Now then. She didn't told US late on the left, so she didn't have hail six. Okay here we go. So now we ain't having sex. And and you want some more what. Dinners Romantic. Whole. Them! We have a six dome. But. You won't some Oh what? Kala. Flowers romantic dinners birthday celebration lunch dates. Dinner dates all of that. Well guess what he wolde. More. Walsum OH, damn sick! So now. We had a stay. Problem I. Think we saw this letting you wouldn't. Hours. And then after that right there, she said I've been married before. And although my ex husband and I didn't get along, he made a big deal out of your birthday. Okay Holidays and special occasion to let me know that I'm loved and appreciate it. Okay, so which I'll get divorced for. All. Yeah, he all that Damn love and it made. You feel special and holidays in love and occasions. Let you know you feel appreciated. What was divorce Paul? What no Jew and appreciate it. You and he did things on your special days, birthdays, holidays, anniversaries and everything. But. He decided to do it for a couple of other people to. Do It was multiple people because he was really loving and caring. Letter, they didn't get along Steve. They didn't get along wealth. Quad. Ain't get alone. She didn't say she. Just If they didn't get loan and he was doing all this and he was loving. It must be her fault again. See here. We go with her again the common. Dom denominate a so far. He's means youth. MEANS MS is. That's all I need. My boyfriend to do is try not to, and I try not to mention how my ex husband did things, but I can't help. Okay, so now you bringing up your damn, ex husband. To your. I got news. That's another reason to quit buying you stuff lecture. Damn, ex. If, you keep telling me how high your ex husband was. Then you must won't show damn dynamics us. We'll get his ass to buy you flowers now a little birthday you had doing covert. He stopped at olive. Garden got some Olive Garden went grocery store and got you ask some flowers? You appreciate that? You won't to some. Oh! What would your ex-husband have done doing Kobe? 'cause nobody's ever had covert before. This the first time, everybody's had everybody's having a birthday doing covert this the first time we've had it doing a pandemic so now. What did you X. Would you? What would you ex have done doing the damn pandemic? That would have been way betting. You'll boy free see you strike me as a woman who was everything laid show feet I on. That, that's cool collar, the best. She a woman, she get it. Everybody won't be spoiled. I'm spoiler, woman business, too, but what you came do with whole six now. Let me, tell you what now see if you want to get all, let's. See me like to be spoiled to Spall, me. See I feel to be buying all this. He'll then you shop. All this ain't happening for me, yeah! You say you're saying it's a two way street. Save is what you're saying. Traffic go both ways. That ain't nothing one way, son, go up, Sunggal. Moon Glow Moon. Wanted deep water shell a north south. You Go, we somebody go with if got to go the other Damn Palo if you won't. You. Yes fine sale. And then you go have to do some loving Yo. Damn sell asked. You won't feel good. Yeah, you had to make somebody ill feel good to. have you like blue I read? You light kool-aid. Scotch. You light rain. Like, nope! I you watch. This you to give me what? I what I like dry lips, but less pussies lips together come on and do something now. Like to get just a little bit I like mouthfuls. Sometimes we got to meet in the middle. You ought to get it over here. I WanNa get it over there. We need to get together middle. Make everybody happy. You Pass. Let. Me Finish this. INSTAGRAM facebook in out a strawberry. On demand coming. Up, on three Strawberry Remote Daddy You're listening to. Hardy morning show. I'm Alex Iona in I have a new podcast. Let's get into. It is all about tackling the stuff. You and I wanNA know each week. I'm joined by a friend and a wisdom tree, and we discuss everything you want to know about money. Love Your relationships, even fitness and mental health. I love having conversations with my friends, and now it's your turn to get in on it. Listen to Alex Iona, let's get into it on the iheartradio APP. Apple podcasts or you get your podcast.
Episode 398 - Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (CLIP)
"I will admit that. Chris Pratt is a snack. But Sam Neill ISM meal. Oh, yes. I do. Oh, yeah. Dude santa. He'll you need a fucking doggy bag play. Play. It's better for you to it's more healthy more based also hilariously went grumble is takes his last breath in this movie that fucking septa or is seen falling in slow motion to the ground as the amber shatters, and I was like man twenty five years ago. I thought that was the coolest prop of all time. And now, I'm just laughing wouldn't be trippy if like the fucking mosquito started flying. Oh, and then it bites Rafe Spall turns into Jeff Goldblum in the fly. Yeah. What did it to be like the the citizen Kane when the things saying but Tinus shots dining that would just goes Kurt Russell dead. Oh, nicely while Disney. Yeah. Did his last words? Yeah. Kurt russell. He wrote hurt Russell on a piece of paper and died. No one knows why. Well, come back to wrestle rules hosted by defrosted, Walt Disney. Now, here's another thing about Jews get to cut Russell in a minute. But the Jews Jews whatever the little girl, here's that. She's the rave Spall. There's a bunch of nonsense were fighting fucking the dominance ran. I don't know like the in the dominance rent out of nowhere. Like a to stop the auction own Grady. Let's. Lose some dinosaurs. Like, everyone scatters and the Indo raptors still safely in it's cage. Ted Levine's like, hey, I gotten that guy's tooth yet. Better. Get a good to to gotta get my Vietnam. Trinket? I got one character trait in aching the usual, also he walks in. So there has been like massive Steria dinosaurs, running wild people getting killed all this awesome shit. Ted LeVine walks into this now like emptied hall, where it's just the Indo raptor. And he's like higher rapes ball. What about that bonus you properly like dude something a checkbook is not present Email him tomorrow? Got all these cheesier still haven't walked any. Starters stink. So he trank the the raptor goes in their town do Daintree, but it's not dead. It's trying to like it kills a pretty good death year. Pretty awesome. He's also because he's like crying and bubbling one. You got really? I always say like this is good acting when someone's getting really like mucus Ted Levine's like spitting in sputtering. And everything we what's weird is then the indoor after because he's so smart he wraps up at the American flag and puts them on the doing. Looks like the cage from silence and Ted the leans in it now. Oh, that's awesome. That wheel his whole thing should have been taken those teeth. After put space. And gets away in the back of a back of violence. And he's just like someone's like, hey, you don't look like Ted LeVine, and he holds up the bag teeth, and he's like never mind checks out. He should have been putting those teeth into his own mouth. Wrap every dying sold. That was me. I'd buy. Cut to the raft. Blue with the white add on walking down dirt road in Cuba. Having an old friend for dinner to bend over next. The most disgusting we have ever came up. Absolutely. Over put we. We movies by this is family friendly comedian, Eric might be we hate movies. But it's Eric loves bend over. I'm just curious. I ask you curious thinking what I'm saying? Sure. So we're doing a budget chase around. Toby Jones gets it all awesomely except for the so they're like all hiding in an elevator use this on screen time big time. And what's what's shitty about it as the door closes and the raptors like, well, whatever. And then it swings and its tail hits the keypad and the door opens can we stop with this Marx brothers horse shit? Something very similar happened to me at a job. I had once you're asked bumped button for an elevator. Yes. Basically I worked at I worked at Viacom the building in New York. Yeah. I was on the forty ninth floor shit. And I was gonna go leave for the day and I hit elevator. And guess what? Boom. It opens up and there's a dinosaur in their name Sumner Redstone. God kidding for for the folks at home who might not know, please tell us who Sumner Redstone. He's one of the most powerful people in the world that somehow he's inexplicable inexplicably still alive at nine five. He he ran Viacom. Now, it's been passed down to his daughter Hauer as talents. They were sharpened scary, dude. So then I was like I'm not getting on that elevator. Yelling something about segregation him and his like, his his tough, man. Oh, and toughs. So the elevator door closes in my crew survived that encounter. All right. Well, let me get out of here at press the elevator. But it opens again, no marked for death. This convenience to also don't have a fucking Trump stand in. If you're not gonna fuck it rips off. Won Gina Rodriguez an eyelash. Yes, yes. She gets in that movie. Because also the same thing like, and they were talking like an interview Jay was talking about how to have Dino violence and PG thirteen any referenced had Ted LeVine gets his arm bit off this movie, and they like angled all the shots. So that you didn't you never see Ted LeVine with his arm stuff. You know, you see the hilarious arm. You know, that are raptors mouth whatever come on, man. Yeah. We all know what we're getting into year. J P five. Let's do it. Fucking stinks. We're doing a lot of back and forth. We we, of course, you know. It's been five in movies, and we're not tired of real dinosaurs walking around near dinosaur skeletons. We've not got over the majesty of that shot. I can't believe we ape this again do the Indo raptor follows them into James Cromwell's hall of dinosaur goddamn break. I mean, it goes on and on the fucking the, sir. Circumstances in which this little girl gets into her bed and hides under her covers. So this was stupid fucking haunted house movie. I have no idea nude and this shadow this dinosaur. This Indo raptor is like a creepy monster like earlier in the film, the girl is backing up against a like, some cage bars, and it's like it's looks like I don't know like the fucking Bye-bye man like the claws come out and. Yeah. Just stop it. Also does that shot of him on top of the house, and he's like howling at the moon at that moment? We have I watch at that moment. Steve UB. So proud of me. I was watching this by myself a shirt that shot happens. It house at the moon. And I just went very the house. Because it's so dumb. I got a great laugh out of that. But I also got a great laugh it somewhere around here too is the third act of this movie is fucking dinosaur. Blew out runs an explosion. And got. I was used that howling myself. I thought I was gonna wake my wife up. I was in half in my balls. It is a really funny shot. It's really it's because it is a loan circa nineteen eighty nine shot. Absolutely. It is. You know, what that's the end of the action hero ever since it started dinosaurs. And movies. Steven Spielberg, you'd perking action. You guys you bring back to live you make median dangers, buddy. Movie. Plan for has wrapped or an stegosaurs. I know I have. Ju numerology Moore movie. I go is bays as Ruggie vita died. So I'm sure that you are make money at the box. Will you make money? I won't make you who Ruggie's base radically say man dead. You know in that meeting. He had with Disney to get into guardians that he pitched them on him doing a spin off of those care. He has his own right. When he found out who it was called the cool squad.
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684: Write your sales plan on an Index Card, with Brian Margolis
"It's time to accelerate. Hey franz. This is Andy Wadham episode six hundred eighty four of accelerate the sales podcast of record. I have really interesting show lined up for it today. Joining me as my guest is Brian Margolis, Brian is the founder of productivity giant, and he's the author of a book titled the index card business plan for sales pros entrepreneurs how to use the pillar system to simplify your strategy and magnify your results as you might expect today, we're talking about affective sales planning, this is really relevant topic. Nells we head into the time of the year. We start looking at our plans for two thousand nineteen now before we get to Brian. I wanna talk to you for just a minute about the sales house. That's my be to be sales, learning and development accelerator now. Great slate of things on tap this week sales house, we have a sales masterclass with Bill Johnson who's the CEO sales. You were talking about how automate sale strategies through the math of sales. We've brand new course are nine minutes sales academy. Give us nine minutes. Teach a new skill new behavior this week. It's about how to ask consensus questions of your buyers. We have our weekly to weekly live coaching and mentoring hours. Those are for the entire community. Thursdays. We actually tomorrow live workshop with Lisa Dennis. It's all about value propositions that sell. It's very interesting. And of course, always members have unlimited access to me through our sales house. Facebook group now sales is hard work. And the good news is you don't have to sell alone. You can succeed we can help. So come invest a few minutes a day in the sales house. Visit the sales house dot com or go to the sales house dot com slash celebrate. That is the sales dot com forward slash accelerate. Look forward to seeing you in the house. All right. Let's jump into with my guest today. Brian Margolis as I mentioned, Brian has written a very useful book on business planning for sales professionals. It's called the index card business sales business planning for sales pros and entrepreneurs how to use the pillar system to simplify your strategy and magnify your results. Among the topics were explorer, why you're planning needs to be kept us simple as focused as possible. And why within this pillar system, you need to make sure you're really focused on performing those activities within your control that produce the most results not just things there's a random tasks right may seem pretty logical but Brian's good explanation for autumn. Make that happen. I also has in his pillar system, alerting pillars might expect them excited about that. Because I'm passionate about learning ins can share why the most important thing about that learning pillar is choosing the right thing to learn. Impress more importantly lichens book. And you could talk about here. It says really the metric you wanna use for success. It's really focused on this idea progress not about getting X number of activities done but making progress, so we're with that all that and much much more. So let's jump into it now, Brian Margolis. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me. My pleasure. My pleasure. You're joining us from where today I am in New Jersey right by Philadelphia or he's New Jersey. Yes. The only known for being the hometown practice facility of the Philadelphia. Flyers outside of that. I have the fires on for other than being a close to Philadelphia. Which is a great city. I love it. Yeah. I mean, lots of good places to eat in Philadelphia. I mean, even outside the cheese steaks, right? Right. So do you have a preference, which which is your favorite steak? You know, the gino's pats debate has been going on for a long time here. But I don't care if I can get one I get one. You know, care chased. I love it. Yeah. It's been a long time since I've had one, but someone's just about this fantastic Donut place in the what's the big market, the a train station or something reading terminal. Yeah. Yeah. There's some fantastic Donut place in there. Yes. Not to be a tour guide for Philadelphia. But but there you go. So so stop into it. So you've you've written a book, which I found very interesting. It's and book recommend people that they should read. It's short hundred one pages easy to go through titled the index card business plan for sales pros and entrepreneurs and interesting concepts a little bit about the book, and the Genesis exactly what it means to have an index card business plan. Yeah. I mean, the Genesis of the book itself was that? And obviously as a book about the index card business plan, I figured if it was too long. It wouldn't exactly it's a little book. I think six by nine about one hundred pages. Nice shirt read, but really the Genesis. And one of my clients actually, really pushed me to write a book, and I'll be honest, and you know, this better than anyone writing a book is quite a task. And the only thing harder than writing a book is writing short book he being stuff out. But jan. As as Mark Twain said, and that's right. Wondering what right. You a short time so long one instead. So the Genesis of the book, it was really a client in a friend that pushed me to put this in book format at something than I had been using for myself for years. I call myself kind of patient zero if you will wear I was the person who needed this the most, and as I was an entrepreneur and going through different businesses, and this being so the pillar system the index card business but away to focus intelligently, focus, your your activities. Yeah. It's basically, here's the way. I look at it. And we're talking to sales professionals. It's basically a strategy. It's a way, you know, most sales professionals their income or their results for the most part is based on their skill set. Right there. Allen ills, and you kind of mix that with their work ethic. And for a lot of them. That's enough. Right. It's kind of like, go go go, and they they usually get to a plateau at a certain point. And what I've always felt was missing including myself was kind of a strategy, right? A week to week process. And I know you talk a lot about that your stuff, but I wanted to make really simple, and I wanted to be really careful about the kind of strategy. I developed and taught this index card business plan because a lot of strategies that I read about or a lot of systems they're really designed to get a lot done. Right. How do you get the most done in your week? And to me that wasn't as important as how do you get the most results, you know, there's no relationship, obviously between how much you get done and how much you make. And so. Exactly, what it basically did this this index card business plan was it boiled your week down to these critical activities these pillars that are one hundred percent in your control. In other words, he's aren't goals these aren't hopes. These are things that you control whether they get done or not and the ideas when you identify the right pillars for yourself. And that's the process discussed in the book by completing these pillars each week. You basically get to a point where you realize you did what you had to do that week you focused on all the important things the things that usually wind up getting procrastinated on the things that usually get pushed off because there's no immediate consequence. Right. And so the index card business plan just kind of teaches you how to take everything you could do in a given week or day and boil it down again to those critical activities and then. In the second part is how do you actually execute on them? Once you've identified. Part of the reason that appeal to me is going through it is that in love with this idea and having walked out of simplifying your focus. Simplifying everything actually because we we are unnecessarily complicating sales. We've had this incredible influx of rolling crumble innovations technologies into sales, but for all their value. Some hand one hand on the other. They also do complicate the lives of people and. And so this idea of taking concepts for taking processes anything cannon simplifying. Yeah. I think has a lot of value one hundred percent, and we're it really focuses. And I think sometimes people get mixed up. This is not a glorified to do list. Okay. It's not a checklist that you have to do every week. Would it really is? It's it's in this Hata gory. I call the pro category. These are activities that are significant to your income, but you have to be proactive in order to complete them. Because there's no consequence, you know, a lot of people don't actually complete them each week. We procrastinate we get caught up in the reactive the urgent as you've heard before. So what we do is. We really have this process for saying. All right. There's a lot of things that can affect your business. A lot of things that can improve your business. There's no shortage of that. But I want to get it down to the list. And I think this is the statement maybe you're looking for. But I want to get it down to the list where as long as I do A B. CD? You know, whatever might pillars are everything else takes care of itself. Right. Has kind of like a bleed affect? I know you have the five step blueprint. And I some of those could actually be pillar some of those. I know you talk about the two hours a week where you call your existing clients, right? No your big fan of that. Well, let's be honest. Whether you call your clients for two hours a week or not if you think that's important your business, your paychecks, not gonna change on Friday. And so these things work on the compound the fact, and so these are the things we tend to not focus on or they fall through the cracks in place of the urgent. And so that's really what the pillar system is based or out. Yeah. Well, I think that's really an interesting thought for people to take away as this idea of the compound effect, right? As is that oftentimes people embark on a. Calgary get re-energized do these three things and after week. I don't really see anything result. So I'm gonna stop doing it. Sure. And I think that the example or the analogy that people relate to the most is fitness and health, right? I mean, if you eat the triple cheeseburger today for lunch or you eat kale salad with no dressing. You're not gonna look any different in the mirror tonight. That's but that's also the problem, right? Let's turn that into a sales professional, right? If no follow up enough or they don't do enough prospecting. Right. Certain things that maybe they don't like doing again their paycheck doesn't tend to change on Friday. But over the course of a sales career. Let's be honest. These are the things that drive everything. Yeah. I mean, your your podcast is filled with skill after skill after idea after idea and one of the concepts in the book is okay. There's all these things I could get better at right? But then we have this thing called a learning pillar, the most important part of learning in my opinion. And the reason it rises to the level of a pillar is choosing the right thing to learn because the information's out there. It's almost too much information. Right. But choosing the right thing to spend an hour on every week. Whether it's copywriting and become very good at writing emails people respond to you know, all these. Skills that are out there you need to pick the skill. That's gonna give you the biggest bang for your buck and make sure that's one of your pillars are consistently working on it weekend in week. Right. Okay. So so let's at the time we have left us few minutes here. So what's the one thing that people can take away? What's what's the big thing that the not the big thing? What's the small thing that can learn put to use in their business? You know, soon as we're finished with the show. Yes. So most people most sales people, let's be honest. They are not afraid of working, right? They'll put in the hours they'll spend their time. And so my the biggest takeaway from the pillar system is this whether use my processor, you use another process is identify the key things that you have to do every week. Okay. And make sure the proactive things the key things that you have to do every week. So you feel on Friday night, regardless of lag indicators. Regardless of your sales. You had a great week in your business is moving four. And when you identify those and execute on them consistently everything else takes care of itself. You know, people laugh at me that you can't run your business from an index card. And maybe I thought I was the only one, but this index card business plan has resulted in individual sales reps becoming seven figure earners. It's resulted in fortune five hundred companies teaching their entire company this system, and the reason is I think we're simple people. Simple. We tend to execute on it. It works. Right. I love it. I mean, this this concept. I'm going to start using this because it's it's yeah. We started a new venture. We've got a lot of moving pieces going on. Yeah. It's easy to get distracted by things that seem urgent but not necessarily important. And from a manager's point of view. And I think this is key as well. You know manager sometimes suffer from the problem that when a sales rep Ray sales professionals business may be isn't where it should be. They kind of only have two metrics to look at number one. They can look at results. Right. These lag aiders and number two. They don't they can look at activity. How many are they having a hard way to get a diagnosis of where the problem is virtually impossible. Yes. Yeah. But that's sometimes it's all they have to go on which is why they say do more meetings. Do more do more, right? Make more calls. And when a salesperson has these pillars, this strategy this very clear. This is what I do every week ABC DNA it allows the manager it allows an accountability to say, okay. I are you doing these five things we've identified these pillars every week. And if you are maybe we need to take a closer look at what they are. Because of these are really the right things to do. You're either not doing them consistently or you're not affective in doing. And so it makes diagnosing sales problems a lot easier from the management point of view, right? Yeah. And I think the perspective that you layer on that. Which is that the orders are are lagging indicators as absolutely right. I mean, focus focus on what's happening. You know? Don't go nuts. Every time only says what's our goal. It's about Sam close X number of orders. And it's really, well, let's take it back to how about you know, it's having these milestone Indra milestones execute these consistently. Ben, the orders are gonna come. And that's the Friday night feeling. I discuss in the book and one of the side benefits. I wasn't ready for that. The most people tell me is Dan, Bryan, regardless of what happens on Friday night as long as I hit my pillars. I know. I did what? I needed to do. And so that's the feeling for sales people who can often be on that emotional roller coaster of what sales came in that week. Right. What closed what fell in right and getting distracted by big to do list since o on. So. Yeah. Like, we'll good. Well, bryan. Thank you very much. So tell folks they can find out more about you again. Let me keep it. Simple. I don't think you thousand locations you can go to productivity giant dot com. And that'll access free report some free resources in everything you need to know about how to identify an expert on your pillars. All right. That's productivity giant dot com. O'brien very nice to meet you and thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Andy. Okay. Friends that was exceleron for the week. First of all I want to. Thank you for joining me as always. And I think my guest Brian Margolis. Join me again next week as I walk them Benjamin Spall to the show ran is the author of book, titled my morning routine. How successful people start every day inspired. And he interviewed hundreds of successful people, but the routines. They follow him to start their day. Lots of good vice in the book, so sure join me next week. And before you go don't forget to check out the sales house. It's only all in one sales learning development accelerator for beat ABI sellers. Visit the sales house dot com that is the sales house dot com. All right. Thanks for joining until next week. I'm your host Paul good selling everyone.
Off The Record: Bart's Crazy Bootcamp Stories (ft. Tim Chantarangsu)
"Need. Three to one action. backed. Off The record do. Whatever we wanted. To. Go back. About we. More. Here. Right. Allies that I hope you can anyway tim is here with the mask on you shocked for some reason and he's taking his mask off. He just threw it on the table and now he's cross patio. For All the. People that can't see. His brother likes to watch. TV shows with, that. Audio help thing the description really every time you log on to his account because he has a CBS wash. Zone and every single episode because he's already wash them and. Settings are saved or whatever every single episode has the and he can see narration he's fine. Topless subtitle's also there's like the for blind people. There's this option just like four deaf people. There's subtitles right. But then for blind people, there's audio descriptive scripted year. Oh, I, didn't even. Yeah, if I was like Oh this, it'd be like Tim had into the air. And Catches Oh, everyone. It's like a quieter background voice almost it's very annoying. So describes everything that's happening. Does the action scenes sound like left punch right punch? Thrown over the building. Turned or is it more like POW POW who? More descriptive. Scripted yeah. Like in the beginning. So like I said, like it starts in the beginning of every episode deposit and then turn it off in the restarted in those. First few seconds. It's like image showing a white male with his eyes blinking or whatever it is. But like it's giving more description than what I'm seeing. So I didn't even know it was a man's eyeball because. The telling me. I going to see a screenplay over. The action line, did you ever ask your brother? Why does that? No actually I don't know if it's maybe it's just like it's a a fucking Lich. House. He'll have it on and he'll turn it off for us. Why don't you guys break balls and ask him what's going on? Why ask them? Yeah. Maybe maybe he wants to see like this. Realization tight. Man, maybe. He's trying to force a feature I, call it forcing a feature. My old man bought a TV back in the day rear projection fifty screen when those were like like. Two years out there's expensive as fuck and he has the picture in picture option. So you can have a little window come up and you can move it around if you wanted to wherever you want and so he tried to make that work for a while and eventually we're all just like Hey dad the this sucks we don't WanNa and he's like, yeah, it does suck Tom was he playing in the little one football game and then another football game? Keep track of to. Score. Kency. Shit, it's pointless but. Sometimes, I like to have things on in the background when I do stuff saying he likes his listen to a movie maybe you're cooking or something you don't have time to look up all the time just tell me everything are they're talking about his brother? because. It tells you loud, right. Yeah because like you ever walked something but you have to get up and check something or wherever you don't want to pause it but you don't WanNa just listening because you're gonNA. Miss. So maybe that's the thing it's I needed to. Distract from the actual dialogue or depends on what you're looking for. See I. Don't need this because I have a wife, right so if I. In the kitchen she's like Oh. Yeah. Well, he just got one. He's going to ask you to be his girlfriend. I could hear it though. Have you guys seen that me where it's like kids today we'll never know what it's like. Having a sibling to help you like when commercials over and it's back on because he had to go run and go. True Live. Get deposit they had the privilege of. rewind. Commercials. Netflix. I didn't have a sibling solid just count and I knew the commercials roughly like thirty seconds. To. Shower. My. Run. Back. You. Serious. Share certain. Fifth grade should move. Back there. Actually. That was training. At your friend's house at people or whatever, and you gotTa go pee or whatever. I don't like each. Exactly. That's how you know how long do they give you to take a shit in the military? Like in boot Camp Yeah. Aw Man it's like really. There's no like specific time, but it's not like how long you get. It's there's like let's say eighty recruits and there's only ten toilets and the guys counting down a Patina if he's he's four. So you guys figured it out. So usually what happens is there's a guy taking the shit with this open another guy pm through your. because. He's these pissed wait question who? Explain who's counting the drill structure. So do the real summertime So I think legally it's supposed to be like a minute. There's like laws that America says a monotype, all Yada Bisbee done in that kind of like Colorado Union Times but then in the military, they always take those rules and they like a motherfucker now so they've got sixty seconds there sixty seconds is sixty nine. It's not even Mississippi so it's Really Twenty or thirty seconds. I kind of liked that though because I don't want our soldiers in war going time out of poop. We'll do they did that during World War? Two. Times it's. and. Did you hear about that. Kind of had a little bit of a Christmas thing. Only with their arms blown off, American. Is like. It was one of the I was one of the World Wars don't call T. There's a famous moment where like they all just had Christmas and then they kill each other the next day. War to be even crazier if there were celebrating together. They were no. I'm not kidding me no way. Let me see Christmas truce. Look it up. It was a Christmas truce thing. Yeah. Let's allies an axe. These powers were. One or two. Cool him on which war was. An need to know what? was. The World War, we didn't do it in Iraq and Afghanistan until seventeen seventy six revolutions, right Okay. All right. So it's called the Christmas truce. Yes. See or why next Frieden. Those German war. So it was a widespread unofficial ceasefire along the western front of the First World War for Christmas soldiers from both sides of the British and the Germans exchange cheerful conversation. Wow British. That's cool. Even organizers. We organize our own, Congress. tweeted out can't even if. You've been in those situations where a picture of them hanging now that's tight. Rope into the computer on. Couple of films it's. Kind of similar to your bad two groups of people that didn't like each other and after fucking arguing shit, you're like, okay. Okay. Here's what we're. GonNa do. You fight one person from your group fight one person from our group and you Kinda come this little understanding and it's like that's GonNa Happen afterwards like art. Devon up. Taking outside. I couldn't ever drafted. Met while man fucking interesting. Girlfriends and And even Christmas treats in San. To Smiles and Shit it's Christmas. Song Hey It's cool. And then I'm GonNa kill you tomorrow. One. All right and he's like. Oh. Kidding cain shattered. GotTa. crispy shanks. In Christmas mode. So crazy thing that time too. They should be social distancing because they had a worse than we did vanish flu. During the world war ones L. it's. On back our people died from that pandemics than the actual war. Damn. The soldiers died more from the sickness. Do Quality Life was so bad back then though you die and you're like, thank you. Yes. Like perspective rare relative to that time. So then for us a lot of people in our time probably feeling. Those guys are still alive maybe telling us like Beckham my have here. Big, big money you get diarrhea you're dead man. This nothing Hawkins back in my day, catch the Spanish flu and you die within an hour. Tom. Crazy Shit. All I. So we we've got focused on the time of the shits and the pisses but you said you spread your legs as you're taking a shit while someone else's pissing between your leg. Yeah. Why are you? Don't have time to wait for. The framers spreading cheeks and that's why. In the first thing is. There's a time limit right and then so that's like the first restriction. The second thing is there's way more people than there are facilities. So there's that the third thing is we're all a team. So we know how much it sucks. If I need a pee or poo, and in this time is up and not have to hold it for the next four hours until that happens. So everyone is trying to hook each other up. So if there's two guys to a urinal and see someone going like this, I'm like scooting this motherfucker over I go like this. So we can get each other's backs than like. This is all fucking piss here right now sounds like some turbulent times but I'm gonNa tell you something right now real quick that upstart is sponsoring just video. During these economically turbulent times? Everyone is looking for a way to feel more financially secure. 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Zone after a New Year's drunken night we're staying in a hotel in La because we were going to be drawn can shit so I was like. Yeah and I was like I really and I joked about like I really wanted to do it because I was funny. And then as soon as we got back to the hotel as she had other okay, I'm going to do it. So she sat down impede and then I p like Disney in between a little like spot and it was really funny. Legs. Like did you behind her? No no front words. Did, you try to cross strains that they're. Probably did me camp? Can you have personal time like? Whenever goes back to time and you just like I got run out I've gotta go Kaka like, is it like that? So, you don't have personal time for at least the first month. So you p when they tell you you poop when they tell you, you eat when they tell you pretty much like. There's emergency just do it then a shit what's considered emergency like pee or poop like what if you're an idol of a drill? You just shouldn't. Like nothing is more important than what your personal needs are, who by the way, the birds talking about the marines right now if you're the air force like they'll bring. PORTA. potty. And they give you like they give you an apple. Yeah exactly. I, love her on the fuck is. Love. Because my whole family's air force. That, my GRANDPA was a marine so he gets. Real hard about actually. Being geared toward army people. Around army people are different different breed I never hear people making fun of Marines though what's the marine jokes nobody marines? Top. The hardest one use normal branches. It's the hardest ones all. They call them jar hands the dumb sometimes against. Does that but. On a native to. Air Force is probably the best one today. How about Green Berets their armies. OPS. Guys and a navy seal making fun of. Green, berets. Nobody really knows about space force yet. So we don't know what the joke is yet. Right potties floating. Or? So the first month you go in and they're like. There's no teacher I gotta go to the bathroom. It's like you fucking Shit on yourself. So you go district that you run up and you on this request permission news ahead or whatever, and if he denies you. LEARN THAT VERBIAGE The they tell you everyone knows the head. In his Third Third Person. This recruit requests permission is the head. They tell you right off the bat like restaurants that you say, I thought I turned it off and. Serve. A boozer. Pretty much it because get the fuck out of my face and go. Okay go shipments. Yourself you just shit yourself is it. was Co ed by the time he got in because Jay Jay was like old right. So then like by the time you got, there's women right Nah I think boot camp is still separate I'm not sure though can't I'm still not I'm not. She was so fucking finding that movie was. Insane and there's Voters and yes, I agree and it's wild. So if Do you know if they do boot CAP gender like like it's different and then afterwards bring them together or so in Camp I don't know if it's Co Ed just yet back then it wasn't. Oh well, there wasn't female is a female in combat allowed until a couple of years ago. Yeah. That's really recent. So you mean they were allowed in the military, but they weren't infantry. Like other jobs you could be like. A nurse or whatever? There's other jobs you serve but you just weren't in combat Cabbie in the front lines Oh. Wow I. didn't know that we'll just a couple years ago. I think. Would I. Feel about the co Ed bathrooms like like. So we were just talking about this earlier where the first time I had ever witnessed coed bathroom was at Youtube, space and actually for your roast at that. So that restroom if they had. One gigantic room and their stalls. Men and women using it, and that was the first time ever my whole life. I had ever been in a restaurant where there's guys around on like this is weird so that that never treat me out because it's all stalls, right? So, you only see people when you're washing your hands but when I went to a beauty con in New York. With him you tickets ship. Well, here's the thing. Right? It was. It was it was a co Ed bathroom and it was stalled and it was urinals Oh fuck? Yeah. So I'm like in my head. I walk into the bathroom like, okay. Cool. There's women in line men and women in line against about them. But of course, the women are in line for the stalls and so I'm like in my head I'm like, oh, it's kind of hard on my dig out girls around within. The urinal and I cannot I'm like so like the shy girl repeat yeah I'm like I'm sitting there and I'm standing there forever waiting. From out and one girls like taking a while they're. I'm like I'm trying to relax. immagination it's like that's like the hottest situation you can think like, oh was. Like something they're like Oh. You're penises how? Women around. It's hot. So and that moment when you're calling your date and you're peeing like this, is it right? Like sure hold like this from the base or do you closer to like Kind of. A Garden Hose. Yeah. You more like a garden hose like. Closer to the base. So you have control the fumble. Returns the shape of the Stream. Different. That I. Agree, that's how we get it all over the. That women don't know is that we do put the thumb front. Because then like there s and you're like how people I would imagine you'd want to cover most of it wasn't. It wasn't like. So let me here's the setup. Okay. Let's say I'm facing. Let's say this is the urinal facing the earn all visit. Facing the urinal here, and then I'm here trying to be here's the line of women going this way towards the stalls. So I'm here here's the door. So it's like they're coming this way and I'm selling my children right here and there's women just in line for the for the stalls and so it's no one's like over my shoulder possibly see my Dick at all. It's just it's still. Yeah. Sure. But what if you got a fart because like I feel more comfortable around guys because we get, it's like Oh. Yeah. Let's fuck and just let it all our maybe women to right like you go in you just GonNa take a shit right now and just let it out right. But do you feel more self conscious now because it's like oh There's other people here now thank God I didn't have to ship I think Maine most normal people do but I think you'd be fine. Don't worry. That's why I ask because I've got to do it regardless. You're right about that. But I'm also worried. I don't have to worry if you go to needles a big events like a concert technically, it's Co ed because it's just a row of PORTA potty. Guys, girls whatever. So to me, it's like we've already been doing it for decades, but it's called a portal body. So we're going to the portal you're in. One of the Rings of Hell. I love it because girls are cleaning the guy. So it's just like it'll be twenty percent cleaner baby. Up with your fucking Piss all over the CPR. Right, I feel bad for the girls. Those guys make us all look bad though 'cause I. Don't do the Piss on this. So who it's one guy out there he's pooping on the toilet seat. Worse we find the health. And blamed tildren because even in the girls restrooms are share on this. I'm like. That's a kid and the MOM is creaming. Sometimes, there's poop on the wall of the SPALL. These sit in the pool often? No, this is first time. So we're in the pool like hanging out and then he starts going. So he knows if he needs to, he needs to tell us especially because I'm his diapers. Off So he starts going. Alarm yet. She is in the water. So I think Jill saw like a little brown cloud. Oh now so she picks him up and puts them on the on the ledge and he just starts going to town water diapers. Sometimes, you just have to make it and he just starts shitting and it just starts. You just started coming out on the legend. He felt so bad because he broke through what he started crying like he betray the families. Embarrassed because someone other than his parents were there could be I don't know. I don't know if it was like maybe all of our reaction like Oh, my God the pool, the energy we never applied that kinda shame to him like he has no shame like just have fun and it could be everyone going. ooh and maybe as a little kid like seeing three adults going like. A huge deal I mean he's he's he's not dumb understands like this is something. Fought the pool you know. He's looking at your dad though because my grandpa would call me a pull shit or for ten and Do Your Pool and when that happens mission goes this one nugget and then so. Just, scooped at with the bucket, threw it out, and then there were. Just with the bucket, throw it out, and then there was a little yellow cloud. Scooped it from underneath the water and I want like that on the lawn. and. I just went off his ass pool party at Bart's. Would that kind of precision pool cleaning? Can Count on a quality experience. is a pool cleaner like. These hands. On us a days. Figures and he. Puts it under a rug leading. Guys. Put the piece of paper. From the rest of the water and then park. Taking water from bottles and he's Revealing the reformer. You think that's really clean. Water is drinking from it.
Ep67: How big a job does the new Giants owner have on his hands?
"Welcome to make him take him again. Tell into the big questions all possible with May As always Christmas Christian really good really good not weekend. We'll have wanted before we get started. I just wanted to send out our admiration to the women's team so close to being the first ever Gbi team to qualify for the Olympics. I'm sure I speak for quite quite a few people in British possible community when I say whether or not you made it to Tokyo twenty twenty. You're an absolute inspiration to all of us. Your determination against the odds inspires us. I'm and I know it's given me a bit more. Women Vigor to carry on fighting to make possible in the UK. Big and strong like it should be So it's really for me a thank you and I'm sure Chris you echoes GonNa come and try one hundred percent. Let's just be the baseline now. Let's just turn out for turning up sakes we've got something here in this country piece that will actually the next time this swings around if we can support them with correct funding and actual actual mindset achievement. deaprtment from actually being a part of this we will actually qualify for the next time. Yeah I think so as well. Hopefully this is the kind of First Day of a new daughter British possible. Let's let's not let it slip away and just see is a flash in the PAN We're GONNA jump onto our questions now plenty for us to talk about little bit different this week. We're not necessarily picking on particular games and the first one I'm going to jump into. We've been talking about the Manchester giants this season shyly with that lack of ability to compete in the BBC level level. This year the League needs to review that franchise. These were the kind of things were saying. The big news out this week is they have a new. The guy's name is Jamie Edwards. It says he's led a takeover presume. He's not in his own but we don't know who else is yeah. I'm the question I have for you. Though Christie's how big a job does a new giants times the massive job you know 'cause he's gotta deal with oversee both on and off the core problems that happens on the season before Well actually from the last seven years this building this whole process we know. Now the you know the the complex is fallen through for the new arena So you know these things that he's GonNa have to bring to the table in. I there was a lot of broken promises of law season off to. They did so well coming into the semi finals. I know but hopefully would this. You know it does make it just need a massive change and the hope. He's the type of guy that connects you get this done. Yeah you hope is crazy to think Manchester City. You know even if you don't count the boss Cable Heritage that Manchester has ah eight should be a top four team in the UK you know. He's a sports city. It has two of the biggest football clubs not in the UK in the world. You know I it should be out there with them As I said Jamie boots obviously led the takeover. I find it very hard to believe that Jeff Jones isn't involved in some manner If that is as the case obviously you've talked about venue straightaway there in George canals. Paul Senate which is a shock replace debate amendment no disrespect to that but it's not built for the BB L. If Jeff Jeff Jones is in place obviously he was instrumental in building the Bellevue performance. Center do you think that's the logical move now. Are we going to see the giants playing out of Bellevue next year. I would hope so because it's a fantastic venue but also for the for the giants and applies themselves. I mean I've been spoken is spoken to Danny Byrne a couple of times yes to practice in five different venues. I mean that's just that's little things that just rocks the Russia whole teams team chemistry. And everything like that just knowing you know even if things were bad just having a home base where you can actually go to practice no way you are about traveling everywhere carry. We never sing a round under unstructured thing. It's so much better and you know it brings better performance edge as well to Manchester if they do perform in the suchit should such an arena because it is possible purpose facility. So you know moving forward. It's sizable enough for the B. B. O.. It's not too big at the moment. You know they can start working it on the fan base and a place like that will definitely help the growth of the clubs moving forward from this season. Yeah one thing he picked up on now. I think this is probably the biggest asset and and if I'm buying giants this is what I'm buying by fan base because I actually think sleeping fan base in that city people come. You know that love boss will love the hate Eddie Johnson. Don't get me wrong. You come back to that. Because they were losing millions of years it was great they will lose millions. You know I remember the trip. We have when we younger up to the me and that was an interesting details cause trouble. Yeah but you know. They don't want to go back to those days but the fans are there. I truly believe verifies that used to support giants but want a reason to come and support them again and I think this could be the biggest asset for me. Other thing you mentioned was coach coach. Van The horrible question to do you think. He's imposition expert Manchester. Do you think they're gonNA give him one more year to prove himself under a good structure because he's had no John. Let's be completely honest. You know this is no personal thing. I've no idea whether he's a good coach. Coach hasn't had any tools to exactly what he's done is he's been up to hold the ship together bringing even last season with Clayton etc with the recruitment. How he had to be out to get this team that we also so one expected much from last season ended up in two semifinals and push the playoffs? So I think when you're moving forward if you're coming in as a new team you bring in the takings. If he's not part of that then don't let him hang around or anything like that you know to to just let him finish off off the season a move forwards. I mean if you're gonNA come in with a with a voice and show direction than you probably would do it straight away so you must give him in. If you're gonNA give you you gotta give him time in that direction. But they've got to sit down and actually talk about which way they're going to guy But for me I think his hit. He ended up the season. He's and then obviously comes down to communication and depending on what he wants and what they want to move forward next season. Yeah I from my point of view. If they don't at least give him a year then called. Do you know what I mean. He's put so much into that club. A Ni- without someone like that again. I don't know whether you go by coach. But what you say is kept a team together when really most coaches would have seen that team fall apart from the adversity that I've had to deal with you know. Give him the chance giving me first year. I don't want the John's to come in and do a London city royals and say we're GONNA win everything. We're going to be the biggest best team we're GONNA blow money. We don't have a bill the crap giant force for Change Plate and hopefully they can say okay. Well let's take this year. Let's give him a chance to head coach and let's get our learnings done in. Its first year. Let's not blow our budget that we've you know investment that we've managed to get and let's build kind of organically From that looking at the team as well overseas is gonNA hopefully have a positive impact the there's more investment in the team. They they season. Obviously I would imagine. They're going to invest in the next twenty days kinda pointless but next year. Do you think they're gonNA keep that Manchester Hall g think they're going to keep the the core of the team with the Jones brothers Bank of h you know or do you think it's going to be a chance to. They're going to want to clean the slate and start again. A FRENCH JOSH CLEANING THE SLATE COMES DOWN TO AGE bent. They go get the you know. They're coming into the mid thirties now. These guys They've both people who got different jobs and stuff like that. I think I think they've always being my is the great fit row players coming off the bench and everything like that like you. Can't you can't run the program to win oversee within this season with these guys stockton. It's just not that direction that they have to take you know but lay they come away make a big impact because they are part of the city though part that culture that club so have them around would be a good thing relying on them to take take you into the next season and grow is something else now they stop moving on see what they can do off the basketball. was well how they can help. Grow the club. Ah Boston Boston. People get into the community get you know get the whole Manchester jarding thriving again. Yeah I yeah I think the attention there entering the transition period. I expect to see the familiar faces back next. You know be quite sad if they won. I think again like coach burn. They deserve to have a seasonal to in actual you know well one well-structured club supported but I think they're all has to change coming off the bench their impact players and hope you say this is a trans activities. You Know Callum James may be English will move into. And I don't know their skillset their education or anything like that but moving into you know back all kind of back office kind of rose and taking on some of the management the club because they understand Manchester boss cables. They do they do. And that's just see for my when I when I was reading. What Jamie said about the thing you no? He's very quick to name drop in stuff like that. That's great and everything but it's full over the every business. They can bring him but they need to know what really happens at this club. They need to really know the culture. That's happened before and whether I can take it so it doesn't matter if if you know so many people they might WanNa put the money into that. They need to find people with passion for the club and everything like this that be able to promote that to be the apple to invest properly and actually work on as she what is there and that is my biggest worry when people come out with positive statements and stuff like that say you know. We're looking for performance woman's culture and stuff like that with really. That should be the number one thing that you're looking for anyway. It's like going for a job interview insane. Ah on hard work in reliable in turn up on time or what do I need. You ask you these questions you know so. It's getting the right people around him not not just nine surnames as she people that you're gonNa make this franchise grow again and that she understand what's happened before to not make the same mistakes that also have that open mindedness to push forward. Yeah I completely agree with you and this is the concern. I have one of the kind of questions I brought down what you really want to ask. But we kind of regurgitate. What's the question? I'm GonNa make the same mistakes. Royals made the issue they had was. They had Jones Sawyer. Come in obviously. Let's ignore that first year he got given giving some advice and go soda dream. That wasn't there you just hope that they're going to bring people round than the realistic sensible stable and looking to build a long term project Jagd a not people that don't understand the sport don't understand the league don't understand the structure and the process to go about it learn from the failures of other clubs and grow from there. You know because that's my concern. Is people come in the like. You said it's a dream of his always on a club for me. Great so so scary statement. Yes because you approach your mind kind of fog over rather than it's a business. Has she has a profit and loss. It has customers. It has suppliers sustain process just an inning Khanna Different Lens different industry. And that's the way they need to approach for me and I'm worried that they're not they're going to approach in I championship manager gain conduct. Why and I I I have a small warriors they are? They going to do well but I still have a small concerned. And that's why they're gonNA end up. Yeah I just hope that's not the case because is there is some fig imbedded in that city and you know basketball is a culture within that city that needs to be tapped and I just hope that they're they can really find the right not the management team and you know success from the people that have been there before and the people that are going to be able to actually put basketball back together. Mike Manchester defined in city. Yeah absolutely and the thing is like we said there's a fan base. There is a great the understands spore. It's a Ford Focus. The city plenty of businesses to develop commercial partnerships with I it's just down. So now what do they do. I think a big part of it. They do need to move to Bellevue Com. Plan Out George Canal next year that sends out all the wrong messages. You own the same stories. Well that that content tells even the flip onto the content loss of this season. It's a really long question. But how confident are you that this will work. Hope for me The change needed to happen. So hopefully there is people the audits to make this work. But you know you always look at it with one. One Hash the Where you'd never to show up because it's not a consultant? It's not actually people that understand so so much to gain this two levels of performance in understanding where the PPO is right there if you can find them type of people yes it will work. But the a structural benefit has to be started this right now and the project is this season is over. You know. They can't be any crazy talk of trying to get up teams in the playoffs. This season or anything like that. I think if you start seeing that then you're already on the downward spiral But for me all the groundwork in the legwork needs to be happening right now and being able to put together a plan and the direction officiant for next season. If we see that we're in the best shape for the next five years is if we Backwards trying to win with nothing that you can win with. Then I just I worry for that organizations I agree with you. Invested in this year tells me maybe they don't really understand what they've got to. Do you know investments got coming within the next Twenty Neil dies less than twenty days things crossed they dunk. It sounds crazy but I'm what you hope is like you say building blocks in place that are mainly the season a great thing. They've done perfect. Take care of it done early. They can learn the business now for the last two months of the season three months a season. I couldn't see what's happening. They can understand. Okay what is our base level income and hopefully when we get to the some of their one of the teams and this is my vice to them is get to the summer getting announcement. Early may time time even round the playoffs even after maybe the day off to the playoff final oh to get a good announcement of plas signing early doors. You know I mean maybe nine fans know that you wouldn't expect to be at Manchester the resigning Willie Clayton. I mean something like that is a signal of intent of where are they going and I think well then see is one commercial partners easier to talk to fans would straightaway below okay. The change of tempo and I think that would be a great step forward to them confidence wise for me. I'm probably eighty eighty five percent confidence. He's GonNa Push Manchester in the right direction again. And that's great to see you know seeing Manchester's competitive within the league is only ever going to be a good thing for Boston was a HO. That's a high percentage from us. We'll have an inkling clean. He's got him behind him. That no been involved a big positive for him. Yeah I just hope. It's not a namedrop employees to be able to it because they've lived in them mistakes. I just hope it is our hope. Is that direction because it really does need to come back absolutely okay. We're GONNA GONNA move onto our second question now. I'm massive blow down in the southwest for the Bristol flaws. This week announced that Fred Thomas has had a season ending injury An even scary was the fact they went up to Glasgow and lost by thirty nine. They just were not in that game. A simple question for now What does the Fred? Thomas Injury remained for the flies for me fussing. You just pray that that study nine point two feet as got nothing nothing to do with what's going to happen going forward you know. It's a massive blow for them limitations within the score and you know because the benches is not scoring focused. It's more role I just think they lose that dynamic they lose that dynamic of the fullwood forward play drive penetration they lose the advantage of the offensive disagreed bones. You see this weekend you usually average fifteen a game. You can talk down to single figures. I think it leaves. It actually loses that Thomas Dynamic that you know that make Bristol tick champion again. Played very poorly. Because you're able to clog up DOC gentry. You're able to stop him. Get into the basket. There's nobody to spread the floor. Fred was probably the best three point shooter this season as well so you lose. It's another dynamic in transition. It's that is a talk. tuft Load Bristol flies. Yeah it really. Is You know he was. He was leading. See the team in both scoring and rebounds nineteen points eight rebounds a game It must have been an absolute heartbreak for the club when that came back First Question I've got for you is obviously they've got. We talked previous crushed that grow around about twenty days just under three weeks now to the BB L. Free. The agency closes down and they can't find anyone else. Do you think they're going to jump into the market and Saunder replacement or do you think they're going to see if they can develop. Maybe role plays into taking on more responsibility spontaneously. I think he's one. He's one guy that you kind of have to replace. I think with the structure of the way they play and and their mindset inset guard into games. I think that that definitely a team. Where he's the he's the guy that will make them tick? He's the guy that opens up the floor. I think he's definitely too much Chavan. Impact guy not to actually look around the league. Right looked riddick around other leagues and that she say hey we have to bring in somebody else if we want to continue to push for this season from from what's going from a possible to final two trophy and playoff season now kinda looks a little bit shakey coming forward because for me against Glasgow they also kind of look like Fred. Thomas was a kind of no factor within the final as well that we watched up Birmingham and you can see they struggle. That goes through the motions. Is Nobody actually out there to go get it. And I've I've done it. You can create that over such a short period. It's time in the Thomas Edwards Overseas GonNa step up with Ginger Thomas as well such Camman driving driving school game a list. You put size in there and it's going to be even more difficult to out there to get to the basket this real driving kick. That's no real three point currents side folks. I know for me I would go into the market and try and replace him to the end of the season with that shadow of a doubt. Yeah I think they can realistically I think he's probably a five to six thousand pound investment for them to replace him for the remainder of the season. which when you look at it? Is that huge amount of money particularly the structure. They sit within oversee they gonNA sit within a set budget within Bristol. SPALL Bristow Fan. I'm like come on guys. Is You know it's a few thousand thousand pounds. Can we not just go out and spend two to keep hope alive because you look at you. Look at the guys that you're gonNA need to step up. Likes del. Pash a dozy. Do you think those guys have the ability to carry a bit more weight than they have at the moment. Those he's only averaging five six points game What's his rebound rebound in just under the six game as well? Does he have the ability to step. Up Del Pashas averaging slightly better numbers than that per one of those guys able to pick up any of that white it did did just so centralized in the positions that play in the united. Fred opens up the game for them and they just putting more pressure on to. You're asking asking them to school. But it's like e can't do that for forty minutes and you you need different tangles than you know you're able to break down champion of the point guard position Shen and limit the bench players coming also there so it in a dream world would love to say yes somebody steps up but you you know not not with not with a structure like Andrea says. Done he's boiled in something. The works to his his way of thinking. And so once you take a very key piece out of it I just don't see how one game yes next game. No though that's what I see all the time with the development of this team so they're going to be okay one game next game this slide and I don't think with the league structure as well. You can list like that because every gave now is extremely important positions within the playoffs. Yeah the moment there on a three win four loss record it sits ninth in the table as it stands. If they don't replace him. My personal opinion is that's the best they can finish completely honest with you What's your thoughts are? They missing the playoffs without replacement. Because I think they will stay on the five hundred in their record. I think that just being consistent enough to do that so some games the drop for certain implies we'd get going but I just don't see it. I just started see willing to break able to be out of cushions that direction to be able to get there. Yes Team Spirit might come into it. You might get a couple of good runs but you know. Also don't have blinded by the light because you know you you you go you see it and I know that such chill massive coke coming out that team dynamic with this really is not raise about that saying they're going to miss the playoffs maybe maybe a little bit cold and a bit premature that even if they don't replace but the vision I have is the as it stands. I don't think Brian Manning may be impacted. Sorry that we expected him to maybe straight away. Are we seeing two eight spaw. Is it sorry flyers are GonNa Kinda battling out for that. I I spot that. There's probably a little a little step changing quality right. There is a step change in quality glove goes back and Newcastle play. Different for you know Worcester again. They play in the team. Didn't play very well this weekend but they still. They still didn't get blown out so there was always a fight. They came back into it. There is a quality shift above it in Sheffield of the ones as well that will you know if they can keep that roster healthy because again they light on numbers was wwl to pick up. I think we have to pick up key wins in big games so yeah Of the only other one that sets you making a move full with now is Plymouth's will they. I be the ones that you step back into the fold. Yeah and that's the other concern you know. It doesn't for Bristol. They haven't made any signings in this kind of flurry that we've had recently uh-huh royals folding. So all the teams have improved. Their Rosters Bristol's now not only have stayed still. They've gone back with the loss of Fred's Thomas. Yeah potentially like you save potentially could finish ten thousand eleven with this with this Ross because other teams are starting to accelerate yes. Yeah and they've shown that because they stayed the same all season Severi sa- very very long time to stay the same for nine months since the people not to work you out you know especially with teams playing each other sometimes four times lines because of the because of the cup competition at the beginning of the season. This is a a very daunting place. Because you you at this point of the season if if you don't make any extra changes you can make in game adjustments because you show your cards is not going to miraculously change. Because the people are who they are said now. Oh losing such a big key piece. You know you just taking a massive debt in Europe you know and like you said last week. He's Andrew Lawrence's around out here free. Hey good sign in as well on a pickup that would be could ever make that Happened Full Michael Good Silence. Yeah definitely what. I'm looking kind of flipping it and looking at the Fred Thomas you know as individuals a player rather than the every bristow thing about sounds as had surgery in the UK this week but overseas a long recovery from it as this. Do you think this is the lost. We'll see Fred Thomas in a BBC Our or do you think we'll see we'll either back in Bristol next year or somewhere else within the BDO. I was quite surprised in some ways that you came back this year to. Ah I ended up pretty good season last year So there must be the connection down the within within Bristol and him Overseas overseas had the surgery hip. That probably would just be because of insurance purposes as well but they can choose to go back home psych. I see that you can see that. Obviously he lights it here and the rumor is as well. He likes in Bristol. So I I wouldn't be you know restore one of these clubs as well. That will actually put money into things that will work so oh you know I will. I can see that you know. You saw the press conference after the thing. This companionship. There with him enjoy is so I can see him. Staying with Bristow. Oh and if they do I think it's a massive push for Bristol holding a three year American in the spot which we really just don't see that much of you know within the game over the last the news. Yeah and I think for me. I'm going to try and put a positive spin on that. I think if he hadn't picked up they S- injury and then I don't think we would have seen him next year. How how often hurts his stock? Let's be honest if you're a team you know in a big league that pays more money. He's not that Sir. He's had injury issues. You know the season. He's an and now he's had a season to are you going to take upon. Maybe not maybe bristow. That's the advantage. Crystalline we know who you are. We've done your Rehab with you. We you'll back in good to go and I think maybe that supposedly they can take from it. Maybe they've got chance of what you say holding onto a God. That's scored seventeen points a game last year but nineteen eighteen points a game this year Unlikely in the B. B.. Oh you see those kind of imports coming back for third season but we might do especially with the team. No offense as well but the caliber caliber Bristol. You know making the pilots and stuff but they still come back so it's in the big shift in a compliment. Climent real compliment to the program. That's down there so I really hope that everything is okay especially for himself and he's able to get back on his feet. Real quick can just get over the injury and get on with his career but stay with the club Rehab in and making sure. Everything's in the right place at the right time. You know being able to be confident. Light that and comfortable as an athlete only helps better injury prevention and also moving forward for him as the mindset so they've got big chance to bring him backwards as the case I think supposedly effeminate positive for the club and like you say I would be great to see him back again like say for the season with Bristol and we wonderful for them On on wonderful for the League as well Wishing all the best in his recovery and we kind of will now have a watch and see what Bristol during the next couple of weeks to see if they make any moves. I I imagine they will otherwise they really are signing off. The seasons bothered trophies in other trophy semifinal that Kanazawa season away leaving onto Internet Khanna jumps into that trophy semi final. Now I'm read that we talk about Division One team But I think it's kind of a moment in time that's worth discussing to see if there's bigger ripples out of the back of this they just announced this week. We'll see alluded to it also grew went allowed to say anything But they signed trayvon right to a three game deal. So that's the two legs of the semi final and the final if they make it simple question but I'm not sure implants does the signing trade live from Roy. Tell us about them. I think it's pretty simple. I think they're in it to win it and I think even now here in each each concept malice things but with the with knowing that Fred Thomas is is not gonNA play. I think they smell blood and I really believe talking talking with people at Solon that they are willing to pack this solid. The now decided university this weekend and they can go forever saying they won't back down down I really believe that they have the mindset. Now that we're in it so we're going to go try and witness absolutely the first leg of the semifinals in solid this Wednesday the second in Lake in Bristol on Sunday eight sounds ridiculous right. I potentially have southern favorites for this game. Uh crazy to say that right. It's not me thinking that's crazy to say that but potentially tree now you have with the last week when we were talking before Glasgow come back. You're always thinking that you know maybe Cheshire but now the way the Glasgow's entered after back into new costs of their shed. A bullet stuff like that. Now this the non favorites from me was hugh now goes back into Newcastle with this type. This this tie between Bristol and Solan. It's more open than anything for me. I mean whoever dares wins on this one and whoever feels more confident and the underlying factor to me going in with added towers to that team they all understand what therefore what they're willing to achieve the now Bristol. Go into this guy and trying to figure out a way how to how to live without one of their soldiers so to me. Soda have a massive passive upon each and you know the over a two game lead. It's not like it's one. It would be even more tense if it was done because that that would have been great search for Sola more than anybody else. I mean maybe that to gain thing gives Bristol that little bit more of a volunteer because they got long time. But you know you can see the lock periods of this eighty minute game. I could see being up for quite a bit. Yeah I think you're right at one thing. I noted down Solan off-line at the moment okay. Sixteen wins no losses in Division One. They won the the NBA Cop. I think that's what it's called national cop a couple of weeks ago in their absolutely fly. Now have a great team chemistry. They know what they're doing very very well coached under coach. Gunman is there a chance that these could be damaging imaging bringing in a new face guy. That's going to be expecting you know. He's going to expect bullying hand. He's going to be expected to be. A part of the offense of the game could do more damage than good to sign. I don't know. Is there a chance to this. I think it gives them. You are worried about that but You know if you if you're management there you sit down and say listen. This is what we want to do. You know I think trayvon this is a very good experience within the league itself within the BBC. And that's a playa to he knows it's the end of his career is not like you. See if Anything else but to help this team out The feedback the IKE had. We've we've had so far. Is that you know he's coming to price for good you know. He understands the process of what they're gonNA do. I really think that that will be the fact today's Dimond in the ball etc because that's not the way that Solan play and say if you WANNA enjoy playing for. That team is the team. Because they're very very good at it so you know everything it comes on because they stick up for each of the coaches staff worked for each other and the club also wet switchover are smuggled on that would James Matthews Day of the week the the other day and you process of that club. Is You know they really wanted the most important thing for them. This season was to win. That video caught because they wanted. Secure that we've achieved everything. Can we want to continue to achieve so I think if they have that mindset coming into this and trayvon buys in. I'm I'm familiar. No not really worried at all that. That's going to be the case logistics ECHINACEA. Actually you know excel would take the challenge they have op done with every team all season. Yeah I think this implies that you'd be concerned about by the field of IT trade them right has the ability to bind to the team product. Nosy he moved to handle. And you don't WanNa say a potentially stop them from being relegated law fleas and He knows Division One. He knows his style. He knows what's expected from him like saying walk into a good team. While coached you think can only be you know be be a positive for his point of view. What's the benefit is a playa to signing? Well what could be a two game contract. I is there a downside to doing. This is this just him. He's in free agency. So why not you know. Also benefit firm has a plan as you think is the case that maybe the injury is you know bigger than it was. You can't play for a whole season. Senator maybe he wants to play and be around and you know he was going to go back to the states power legally hung around to do this. You never know what happens. If you don't put yourself out. They have you AH unity. open-mindedness of him the open-mindedness a soda trying to compete to show that they want to compete that. Just it so the happy to be here things no they wanna be there they WANNA win. You know we got this opportunity. Why let like everybody else? Let it go pause and just say l.. Damn that's a that's an offer to T- missed. Let's move on group game very rotation. I actually wanted to come in it so I think if the staw law in with the mindset that he's as well I don't think it's damaging to him because I think the injuries out and I think that's already damaged his career around maybe just being able to play again reach a final do stuff again because you know it remember us apart is a win. Impart that big less to run as well so He does bring a lot of experience of win to that team. So you know it could be a great thing for both parties and able for him still play for me. I think there's his only at plus a him. I find that he's still around if I'm on the strange he's floating around the UK not plan any understand that you know injury invitations these Anissa massive one. Because let's be honest. I said Solan favorites now to the trophy fondling Glasgow. This is the biggest shop window. Trayvon right will have to actually get himself back into the BBC get himself in a reasonable level of pro basketball on himself for a contract. Nexium right up to the turf you funding Glasgow and put up a double double beal teams. We'll be talking to him for next year. That's for sure right for sure but you do have to manage that injury and see why yes being out for the season as instead it's definitely some underlying things that are about this and why he is in that position as well realistically but you know everything falls on the value for Soland to be able to take a long to this and and be able to use him use of not just use him but each of us each other effectively to greater the things. And that's what that's the. That's why I look at it with a positive signal. The white through is just a quick for you really simple quick question do you think he's coming off the bench. Winter is going to be in the starting five. He's I think he's coming off. The bench is coming in to help. I know you know you know that. They're ready for Bristol and I think he he has to come in and make the impact of the US law like with Bristol. It's the impact coming off. The bench is going to dictate which way that it goes. If they don't get scoring off the bench early then look what happened. Move in the cup takes too long in the game to be able to come back if he's able to come back if he's as I will come in control rebounded be able to be aggressive. Move in the pain you know. Be Out to create tempo for his team which picks picks up the slack who actually increases from what Solan that she put on the court straight away. You know this is all a game of runs is eighty minute game uh-huh Solo Walker walkout from even three points down off to the I like the not out of. It is too long too long of a game of Bristol. And he's just that if you use him very well managing very well he can really be an impact in this kind of fun gone open from the kind of worms which we might have to put another day. Because we're almost forty minutes now already. I just looking at this. You know taking away the individual perspective of this do you agree with this as a principal signing a player for a specific game effectively. I think it's made I think the fact that they're in the then we finally made it just a parent. I think they're in this situation. Do I agree with it yet because there Sarah. I don't agree with it if they're in the same league I do agree of if you're an elite below and you're trying to compete with an opportunity. I do agree with that. I have no problem with that. Talk if you're bringing in players like some play some teams they bust out into the playoffs. They make a wrong move a completely different team bringing in place for facts so so thing or run with two Americans and bringing in an extra play just to boost the end of the season. I'm not sure about that too just to save money but this way yeah I I have no problems with principals and stuff like that I show. I think it's a level of competitive. I think it's a growth for the club below to be out to think about moving into the toppling. Ah The league what they need. I think everything beneficial for a low low division tastes. Yeah I'll be honest with this one. I see very much. This isn't right. If I'm honest. I think he makes it gives us some talk about and it gives them more of a chance to win. A don't agree with it. I think it has has to be a call point I think you have to say from a quarterfinal semifinal. Wherever you wanted you know settle on anyone you know taking pot in that game has to have played at least X.? Amount of games for the chain five games ten games. Sonic along those lines that season To remove this because I don't think he's healthy proclaims as well. If I'm honest if I was a union I'd be like you can't sign a guy food. What would be maybe two games in as much as that's great you you know he might be saying? Oh yeah but it's an opportunity an opportunity but that's the same as the minimum wage. Really for me. People would work for minimum wage. Does that mean it's a good idea now and I think that's a similar thing. I'm concerned by these president of seeing this happened in the UK. I think what you say. The one thing that you know takes down down is that it should division one team just trying to have the same amount of imports is the BB l.. T. and that's the one thing my head. I can write often cite. Well actually trying on apply to the same rules. Bb Team plane to yes. I totally agree with that. Because that's the rules are offered to them. There's no other the by the state so they're sticking within the roles so you know you see what they will. They've achieved you. See what they've achieved with the budget and the ability that they have a narrow or late. Now you know you won't good teams coming up to the BB L.. If we're going to talk to solid you know it's it's a sure the thing that you know that the structure there you know that this this is that we can help each other out but identifying this early even I would be in complete plea agreement that if the cup started this way and you put in solify games next year and they're able to play like that and then after that the player is able to move on. It's the same ways to have to be able to develop you know. At the end of that they develop the league. Does it develop teams below to come up and in the bigger picture. You know. That's the Crossover thing that you've really got look at because it does help certain It does make the game more interesting for the for everybody does help the development of the club The positives of their. I know we who wants to live under the rules but there is more positives and negatives with this. Okay rock out for another week. Chris thank you so much for joining me. 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Episode 136: Netflix and Kill
"This week on this where wolves we take request from one of our listeners and discuss to net flix exclusives the ritual and velvet buzzsaw A podcast the podcast. That discusses all things or brett. I'm david david. Hey are you doing doing good little warm. Spring is here springs wrong. Don't just look like that. It's getting hot. Yeah so take off your clothes. We had to both. We're talking about this before we started recording. We both turned on our air conditionings this year and i know people in other parts of the country. That don't even have yeah there. There's national why people in other parts of the country are probably lake. You guys aren't saying it's probably beautiful out there and it is for the most part but he gets trapped inside your house when it's hot all day. Yeah and arizona is like the sun is shining down on you and when it comes bring summertime yeah swamp ash but your entire house is becomes that it's nicer outside than it is inside so it'll be actually probably a few degrees cooler but still hot and muggy and like stale air. We're going to have first hundred degree weather day. Pretty soon might be supposed to be might be tomorrow. My daughters out the day before easter. Ba tomorrow is supposed to be ninety. Nine my daughter's already been swimming. That's ridiculous your daughter's crazy. Our pool is a to well. It was like seventy five degrees when i left. That's action not to bed. The house today and it was still getting warmer. Yeah i usually. Don't get into pull taylor. Aren't like around labor day. I don't memorial day. I don't get the pool to like fourth of july. Really my wife and her talking. I think we're going to put our feet in the water. Tomorrow that'll be. That'll be the center for pool activities. Yeah yeah i might go out there and sit with my daughter if she's going swimming and just kind of like pick put my feet in. But i'm definitely not getting in hell. No man kids and adults different priorities. Yeah but i remember as a kid like yeah. You would swim swim like all the way through. October never had a pool. Because i live here. Yeah having a pool in wisconsin. You were rich. An pool above ground pool. But if you had an ingrown pool it was all wealthy. That was the governor like mtv cribs. Can she was like what did you say. Here's on assisted necessity. Yeah for the most part. It doesn't add any value to your. It costs money all the time. Such a fucking but it's it's worth a woman but yeah it's getting hot here. Spring is in the air. You get allergies. Yes have had the hitachi yet. Yeah because we've had some windy days to this has been like the windiest year like that. I can ever remember in phoenix awful bay on the especially windy days to get that flu. Knees lake nasal stuff do a couple of sniffs that do my wife's got bronchitis. That's us yeah i think. So here's here's the other thing so we just got our first vaccinations for covid. You did too. I did and we just got our first round right after. She got that she felt like shit. It's looks and her allergies. Were hitting her were suming. Yeah then she was like super tired. Went to the doctor. They're like oh you have a sinus infection so they gave her some fucking antibiotic three days later. Four days later she was like i still feel like shit so you went back down there. And they're like. Oh you have. They did x-rays they tested. Her for covid came back negative. She doesn't have covert. I was like what a picture that would that would suck like like. Got the vaccine. Well after yeah yeah you had it and then the vaccine the next day or something. I think thinking about that too like the time between the first dose in the second one i was thinking about jauzi like time mos most afraid waiting for maternity exactly but but so she got She has bronchitis. And if it accelerates it could be like the beginnings of pneumonia who. I'm like that's a. She was rough looking to hear this. She gonna know but she was. I looked like a movie. We talk about today. And i was like that. She's a girl ended up looking good on this episode on the record today but regardless she throws humane and i was like oh god i hope she's not one of the point. Oh five percent that you have like an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Yeah i was like oh. That's not her sucks. Hope she feels better. She is yesterday and today one when they put her on the steroids. So she's fucking rooted out. She's so swollen kabeer. Kiss an fuck you feeling a lot better anyway. So that's what's going on. Can we get our second doses. It's going to be soon. I know like few weeks. A couple of weeks and be nice Regardless we got a message instagram. I'll read the message. This comes from ralph and he says hello gentlemen. Talks and greetings meetings Hello gentlemen i. I wanted to say that. I love your podcast. It's the only thing that makes my mondays bearable. I'm still bad for elephants. Shouldn't have the worst job ever took me any joy. I think he's from back east. Think by looking at his instagram. I kind of instagram. stock them. A little bit. I think he's back. He's like in massachusetts from boston. Your banter and tangents crack me up. Second i would like was there i. Oh yeah i. I want to say that i love your pocket second. I would like to suggest a movie. Pairing that had love to hear your review the ritual and velvet buzzsaw and as they are both on net flicks or as. They are both netflix originals. I humbly suggest the title net flicks and kill done. Ralph your wish is we are like the genius you rub us christina aguilera over here. 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Yeah look to see what's on same night ended up picking some seen angelino right most of the time. I ended up not picking a horror movie. I'm like what's in the horror section of kim and i'll watch them usually my wife's. We're not watching a horror movie right. Passover velvet bus. I remember seeing the previews for i just remember seeing it on my screen. The ritual two thousand seventeen written by joe barton. It's actually based on a novel by adam. Nevill not aaron neville to talk over of cotton ritual. That's pretty good. We're gonna talk about the ritual. Who aaron novel was here. See them showing all over on the side of his shit on his him. Hey i was born that way you fucking asshole skin condition. Yeah a piece of shit. Adam nevill not aaron neville atom the lesser brother of aaron neville brothers weren't a group. Yeah i think so. And then aaron's like fuck this. I'm going to sing somewhere to get buff. Bring some people bryson he saying one of those duets. Some oh oh. Yeah don't know who did that. Was people bracing linda ronstadt. I think but aaron neville did one. Was it the from american tale. Yeah five five level. American the first one. Yeah not goes west. I've never seen either one of those. I've seen them both both in the movie theater. Yeah i think it was too old. I think it was. He'll find we sing that every once in a while. Text message david be like are you looking at the moment. Yeah the stars. How did a thing. I know he saying. Do what with somebody linda ronstadt. He did sing a song. Linda ronstadt much. Oh yeah but i love you. Maybe turn off the lights. Don't know much. Look this face face off. With all sorts of fucking pockmarks interests face. Another years chevron look at his life still nowhere where it's shit anyway. He didn't write the book. Yes directed by david. Bruckner music by ben. Lovett starring. rafe. Spall as luke are sure. I'll es funny name. God we're making fun of people's faces voices. Testicle ball rafe space. Spall ball the we none of these things. These people can control. Yeah okay stop making fun of him. Now come on twenty twenty one. Yeah clouds yeah sure. I'll fill robert. James coley air clear. Cut it out as much. Sam troughton as dom. Paul read as robert the release date of this film September eighth twenty seventeen at toronto film festival and then october thirteenth twenty seventeen. I guess everywhere else netflix. The u k places. Don't have any information for budget but the box office because it was released in theaters in the uk Box office was anywhere between one point. Three one point six million. There's no way of knowing bad accounting bed. Look it was employed. Point six fucking walked off a two grand three hundred thousand a couple two three hundred grand in between friends. Yeah exactly all right speaking of friends. Let's get to this movie. Five friends filled dom hutch. Luke and rob. They're all like chilling at this pub and they're discussing. I guess you know they've been friends for a while and each year as they've gotten older some of them have gotten married. They have families. They've got jobs but every year they get together and try to have like a guys trip. I kind of like a descent. Kinda vibe. yeah very much so yeah but instead of doing something adventurous. They're talking about doing boring shit. They're like should we go to amsterdam. I mean i guess that's boring older now lake amsterdam's not nearly as exciting as it was and we're know twenty. Yeah and if you're in the uk like gonna amsterdam's going to vegas for us. Yeah you know. And it's like that's how quick the drive so or they're just talking about various things and one of the guys rob he's like let's go on this hike. Let's go to sweden sweden which was quickly. Shut down because it's like. Oh that sounds like a lot of work. Sounds like something. I would say i. It'd be like yeah. That sounds fun. And then it'd be like and and up. No thanks even walking down the pace of the older. You get these joints getting anymore lubricated older when i get up i get up in the morning bedrooms on the top floor right. Yeah when i get more first thing. I do is go and get a cup of coffee saying okay well. Ip and brush my teeth. Yes but you're brushing teeth while. Up now it takes some skill of a surgeon. I could do that. Like if i was taking a shower first thing in the morning and brushing my teeth in the shower and i could do all three of those things but if i'm trying to pee in the toilet yeah and brush my teeth betting going to happen especially with the rocker. Boehner that you have. The bend jackson criminal leads to the wall. A no but anyway then after go downstairs to get my cup of coffee and man that trek downstairs. I think each deputy one one day. I'm just going to benefit and just took to and over walk. Downstairs is not fun so anyway. Then they're like well we'll figure it out figure out what they're gonna do and they're like all walking home at the end of this night of like having a few drinks and one of the guys luke he's like. Hey let's go by ball. He wants to keep partying and the most of the other guys are like. It's a school night. Guiding the kids and stuff i gotta do. And he's like fuck you and he's the british like i had to watch this movie. I watched yeah. I did too. I'm nothing against the. I didn't 'cause you warned me. You're you're gonna wanna put the captions on for this one. It was like all right. Yeah you don't have listeners in the uk. I've seen like our podcast. I think you'd see. There's a lot of fucking countries yet. Download some fucking obscure no-fence like you back stan or something like fuck this fork where they got caught. They got their hand job. Offer to us or something. Uk england specifically is like. There's been there's at least one person that listens on a regular basis. I'm assuming there and this is nothing against people with british accents. I love british accents but in movies for as an american with someone has a real heavy. It's like i mean. I can make that. He said kant. That's about content so anyway but He's like you're all bunch of fucking counts but rob and joins luke they go into the liquor store and they're talking about like what are they gonna do. Whatever they just rub seems to got a good head on his shoulders. He's kind of talking to luke like. Hey maybe it's time to grow up like stop being such a dip shit shit and They look over that both hear noise and they look over and the cashier is like cowering. Newly oh shit. These robbers come out of the back room and the robbers siham but luke immediately runs. Yeah he hides around a corner. Yeah and rob just stands there and the guys who are robbing rob. They say you know. Give your wallet to give everything in the middle of give us your wedding ring. And he's like. I'm not going to do that. You already got my money dude and not giving you not giving you the ring. Does your wife watches movie with you. Know i told my wife. She was watching this to give him the ring up instantly. Here you go. Yeah bring like honestly like i don't think my ring it's worth something sentimentally moneywise my rings. I'd be just like here. You go a goldfish to be honest with you. If i lost my wedding ring. I could probably replace it and my wife we. We're for me a new one. Nice this isn't it. I switch them out every once in a while we get you diva. Was she the more today. She bought me one for our tenth wedding anniversary. That's cool what you just had rate which we just had. Yeah in january. So it's coming up next month. Yeah it's ten is the tenth anniversary. No it's pronounced ten. But so i i bought my wife diamond earrings and put them in l. It's tints i'm gonna dress up like the tin man oil. This oil can get the lube. Yeah what up your back. But yeah i would have given up the wedding ring. Oh absolute quicker than they could've gotten out but he doesn't and the thieves hit it with a like a machete what it was was shady to the face because i was like holy shit. I didn't see that they. They clocked said the head and he falls down go. Yeah he did. Yeah and luke the whole time is just. They're like and he's got a bottle in his hand to until he wants to do something but just can't scare wait. Mustered the courage. I know i get it. I would have been too. Yeah oughta piss myself. Yeah anyway those thieves leave and he goes out and meets up with his friends. And they're like where's rob and he's like call the cops anyway. Flash forward six months. Get there in sweden. They the four remaining guys decide to do the hiking trip that rob wanted to do. And they're like and they have like a memorial like an altar. Yeah like a little ceremony with candles in. i think like you know some photos and They're going to hike back. They're gonna will the camp out there you know. They're hiking camping and hiking through sweden. Looks beautiful does. I want to visit there. You know. i'm seventy percent swedish. This so boring and for oregon's is your jurgen fucking swedes. I learned that from the muppets. Borgen ford and she gorgan. But i want to visit there someday. Because i've seen it in gorgeous. Yeah it looks. Awesome like that morning there. Hiking in it's windy and rainy and it is looks miserable. Yeah he says. As far as i'm concerned sweden can lick my bridge. Oh talking about his taint says the gooch all right. Yeah the. I knew what he meant right away. Assume the bridge. I'm glad you clarified also called. I got into an argument once argument about like gucci. Beat the fuck and punch them right in the face because he called it a gooch instead of tnt boots. Which do you say because i hear both. Maybe it's a regional thing i say taint you know generally speaking. I don't talk about that area of todos. Los noches but a taint is where i would go kim from jackass. It was the one of the movies. Maybe coined it well. That's the first time i heard okay. Knoxville said something about the gooch. Did somebody say no. It's pronounced taint punched him. Remember but i always learn tank because it taints your balls and that s exactly right. In the middle. Yup switzerland the switzerland of genitals be confused or leases while they're hiking don arguments guy was. It's the fucking tight. Yeah yeah. I've never even heard of the taint and i was like what i've never heard of. Gooch do like peanut butter by chocolate chocolate. Exactly what a dick. It's a taint. If you're measuring addict you start at the taints for maximum link started to go to the tip. Want someone s dorsal to detail. How do you measure a fish tail to the tip demands. Also you measure it shoving a fucking ruler into my body to get an put it into a little bit further. It's fucking tape measures halfway up my asshole part of the tape to hold it do it. The only way back into got circumcised eighteen to tip. We see we. They make sense and does make just make sense. That's that's the slogan tainted tip. It just makes sense. Blum it baker. T should just makes we could sell one. It makes sense all right. Let's get let's get the ball come on dumb tears his meniscus this fucking guy fucking well it's not even that it's just like you just whiny and he's yeah he's super weeny kind of said said he's walking along not paying attention where he's going. Okay i rule of hiking especially down the side of a mountain. we've both hiked. Mountains is go where your feet should be going. Yes yes and guess what his weren't he was too busy yapping about some other bullshit and he falls into like this little hole like sprained his knee. Yeah but he's like. Oh i think. I tore tore jorma. Meniscus o fucking mc l. Tear or something. it's like. Yeah and we get the sense from the other guys like. He's a bit of a hypochondriac over exaggerates. Everything yeah take it off. Yeah and that's what they tell him and he's like i don't know if i can. They're like well. We're going to have to carry them. Like i'm not carrying him. No way around getaway to go because they show us like aerial shot of where they gotta go all. Yeah it's it's it's a walk. It's a hike but if they cut through the woods this is the first mistake they make the way i think makes his suggestion and i just kind of like the leader of the group. Yeah if we cut through the woods will get their in town or village so they all agree on this and they start going through the woods all right well. It's a horror movie. Yes shit's going to happen so we know what's going to happen. Yeah they start going through there and they have to make camp. While they're hiking we get our first lake. Sign that something's off. Is they find an elk. Like hanging from a tree with let's hanging out. Yeah and it's not. Even his second was like it was put there. Yes it was strewn up there. Have you ever seen it when they like like someone catches a deer hang it to drain the blood. Yeah that's what it looks like but almost like splayed out great with like imagine like each leg tied to a different tree and it's center just sliced open. It's gross it was gross ended. Could tell it was fairly recent and it was way up high. Yeah it was like twenty feet up in the air aided to get those special shoes. A little cleats in under the tree win. Saw lumberjack competition. Have you ever seen those. Ta like they used that they climb up talked to climb up to the top and then slide down but they're not sliding down to like it's like every lake. I don't know stick their those. Yeah dude. I fucking suck at podcasting. Lumberjack shoes sounds like two symbols. They way they do. You see the donald duck episode. I think chippendales recycle. Yeah probably i've seen donald duck down the like chip. He saw us through like chippendales like house house. That's awesome donald. do i look like donald duck. Like every cartoon he starts like all chipper is the big and then just life just beat him down and donald duck is so relatable donald duck in me two peas in a pod angry at such little my blood pressure by the way were pressures high countdown. Do blake lee. we'll we'll play friday thirteenth game. You get so worked up. I was so pissed. The other night wasn't even funny wasn't it was funny later on but at the time it was not funny david i could very frustrated like i'm logging off so anyway we make camp for the night do they camp in their tents. Yeah i think so. No no they. They find this house where they go to the cabin. And they'll see like carvings in the trees and stuff so they know that there's people around but the camp in their tents the night and it was really really windy and like luke keeps having a dream of what happened does happen leader. Yeah yeah it happens. It happens when he's in the tent to but anyway they're going through the woods and it's getting late and dom being a bitch little baby bitch and so they're like. Oh we find this cabin so they like knock on it. Nobody and it's all boarded up like it looks like it's been abandoned so they bust in and they decide they're just going to sleep there and in the morning they'll continue going but i do like it's very creepy looking and i think one of the guys is. This is clearly the house we're going to get murdered in. It does look very murder. And it's creepy. Yeah the kind of investigate the house and they noticed that upstairs in the house. There's like a statue a sculpture blair witch. Yeah very much. So a life size blair witch like twig rachel. Yeah a human torso and has like antlers. It's just weird weird looking. They all end up going to sleep. And lou quakes up. This is when he also has the dream. I think he has. The dream is a dream about the robbery. The robbery that happened and he wakes up outside the standing. And he's like what the fuck and he goes back in and one of the two. He's got a big puncture wounds in his chest and he's bleeding and he goes back inside and he sees hutches like pissed himself. Dom is in the corner like calling for his wife yeah. They're all asleep like but they're dreaming. They're like sleepwalking and he wakes them up. And then the other guy phil phil. He's upstairs naked. Praying to this fucking twig god. Jesus and they're like fuck this. Yeah and so the next day dom they find a path in the woods. And he's like. I want to follow this path and i think hutch against it but they all eventually agree to follow the path. Yeah and then. Luke goes to look at something he sees like figure dude. This was creepiest. fuck. Like he's like the verse. Mec's it looking off in the distance and then you see like something like giant and it's like moving. Yeah if there's like a hand like behind a tree drew up and then at lake walks there's like a giant like fucking tree creatures from one of those can treebeard pissing me off the big trees. His treebeard shit yeah. Jr token was couldn't come up with something else. No he's like. I fucking made up this whole thing. If he's a tree his name treebeard delay. There's rock stash. Treebeard fucking tate. Bush bush taint and gooch sons. Got into a fight. Daddy but In dom doesn't believe him dumbs like you're insane. Yeah and this is like donald so basically comes out and says that he blames him for rob's death yeah. He says he's a coward yet. He's like you could have stepped in and intervened and you chose not to and every all of us are thinking this. We've all thought it it's because of you. Yeah that were here right now. That's a pretty fucked up thing to say. Given what like what they went through. But i like luke's response she just decks and right in the face and then winds you broke. My nose is like your nose is broken. Shut up yeah. You know the other thing too. If i was would have been like fine. You're on your own bitch. I'm out of here. I i can walk win. This is later that night. Luke has another nightmare about the robbery and he awakens for In here's phil. Screaming comes out of his tent and he finds that hutch is not there. He wakes the other guys up and he's like hutches gone. Yeah and so. They're like we got to find him and the sun starts coming out and they're unable to find their campsite. Now yeah because they all kinda run to try to find him and they quickly get turned around and lost. They have no supplies. They have nothing on them. Yeah there're tents like everything's gone. Now they eventually do find hutch the hear him screaming at one point to like blood curdling. Scream yeah and They eventually find hutch. And he's gutted an impaled just like that fucking l. hanging from a tree gross They take them down in like barium. Yeah it was really sad and dom like going to do with the body and it's like bitch. We can't carry a body how 'bout you carry him. Yeah yeah no so. They're like they're just going to bury him like we can. After we get back we can send somebody to properly barium and it seems to me that maybe this is the time of year in sweden. Where gets it's dark most of the time because you know sweden's a little north So little she's just a little north from here but Must be the time of year where it's more wintertime. Where it's darker because the sun is out that long gets because all of a sudden it's dark they can't see anything and feel gets sucked away. He's grabbed by something and he screaming as he's getting dragged away and there was this creature and luke is telling dom he's like that's it and so they ultimately make a run for it and there's this creature like chasing them. They see torches because she far in the distance. Yeah and they run towards it and they get to this cottage and they get there. And there's like people there and they're like they look like fucking hillbillies hillbillies and they walk into like a cabinet as a woman is listening to a record. It was kind of interesting. Yeah and then they get hit over. The side of the head knocked out. We should back up to fill also gets gutted. Oh so now. We're down to just Dragged away and luke. Yeah yeah sorry. I thought i thought that was implied that he did he did. They wake up and they're tied chained up in a cellar in the cellar. Yeah and this old woman who i know. She had no teeth but she looked like she was like chewing on like some bubble gum johnson could but she like. She's she's got a really good face though for film because her face was just like not gnarly but it was like which is very weathered. Y'all like danny trae. Who has good face. yeah he's got a story. This woman's face had a story. She walks up to Luke and she looks at me. She looks at his chest and she sees those five prong marks of where he got cut on the chester earlier and She leaves him alone. Yeah she does something to him. I forget what she does. I think this might be a different parvati kind of pulls her shirt. Dentist shows that she has the same mark. Yeah it's around the same time. And then she leaves him alone as she goes over to dom dot com and The they drag dom away yes but they drag him away and they take them upstairs and he's getting tortured. Yeah you just hear lots of screaming and crying. We don't see it. We just see what luke is doing and as is getting tortured. Lucas trying to untie himself. Yeah and we hear like this sounded like monsters. Monsters growling just a bunch of weird creepy noises but they don't kill dumb at this point because there's a woman that comes and like actually talks to luke and tells him that they're preparing for sacrifice. Yeah and even when dom comes back he's like the i'm going to be sacrificed and he's all beaten up and you gotta get outta here. Burn this place down. And and he tells luke. Hey my nightmare. That i've been having was meeting tortured by a monster sacrificed. But wasn't it as he also said but he's calling out to his wife and his wife was there his wife was there they take dom outside and they like put them on like a steak or something. Yeah he's like bound somewhere and they're all surrounding like praying to like. I dunno some unseen. God meanwhile lucas inside still tied up he breaks his own thumb to slide. It out of this can't feel good. Slide out of his non strain. Yeah dom cease his wife. Come out of the woods and he starts calling. he starts saying her name and Right before the wife kids it changes into this fucking creature. This is the first time we see like a full shot of the creature. So imagine a reindeer with in place of its head so with with the forelegs in place of its head it's got the torso and like face and like hands. That look like arms. That looked like antlers right. It's fucked up nearly creepy looking like something out of pan's labyrinth. Yeah exactly very gear. And we'll del toro this chick that was talking to luke explains that it's the y-yo tune your tune j. o. With whom loud over the top of it. T u n n. Which is an ancient god like entity that this cult of booking swedish hillbillies believes provides mike immortality the sacrificed to it and they'll live forever and they say that luke has been chosen to worship it and if he does he'll live forever but if he doesn't yeah he has to kneel before it and he'll have life or or he'll die. He's like fucking generals nikki choice. Snooty bucci and she. Yeah she also has the same markings luke. Luke gets out and he's like fuck this place burns down when before he burns down he sneaks upstairs and he finds like a bunch of like mummified people who are like in church. Yes but you can tell they've you know they have you turn ole life so but they're like mummies. Yeah super creepy. So yeah you get to live forever. That doesn't mean you don't age deliver fucking mummy place. Yeah no thanks. Kill me live forever. I'm down with as long as i don't age so after he burned the place down where they still alive. Well i got to thinking about that too is like live forever to what extent. Yeah eventually ash lincoln. Death becomes her when they like break apartment at the end like bill. Stay that way. Yeah but like if you destroy their brain. Exactly i'd be like could you just take a sledgehammer and just finish me off. What maybe they'd still be alive. Like how whatever brain cells. I don't want to think about. That is the brain cell that can't discern gujarat. And that's what you're stuck with thinking about for the rest of eternity. You think i either wanna live forever or don't you know in between please and there wouldn't really be an in-between. Let's look through choices. We'll find out right now living forever. It's true odds are until good. I'll live forever torches the place he knocks the old lady out. He grabs a rifle. he gets an axe. He shoots the monster which just pisses it off. Yeah this this monster kills the young woman who was helping luke out Luke shoots it and it goes get hurt and it comes chasing after him and while he's running like he imagines the convenience store it's like he's running but he's inside a building but also in the woods this got magical powers possessors like mind. Yeah and he makes them see stuff like hallucinate and everything but he'll he'll ultimately gets out of the woods and apparently the muster can't leave that wooded area right in the monster catches him in drops to his knees basically tells them like. Yeah kneel before. Yeah and he's like nah any axes it. And then yeah. That's where he gets out of the woods and the monsters curses. I can't can't a poodle. Yeah so that's the end of the movie. I thought it was going to be like a file scare the monsters. Just be like. I can totally get out of the woods. Baker and creepshow two that blob goop popout now at the end. Yeah that's the end i this slick. It's weird really weird but it's good. It's kind of got like. I don't know if you've got this Pan's labyrinth we talked about. But like the witch. Oh yeah it's got those kind of barbed which leads the monsters creepy looking. And i liked that. We didn't get the full reveal right away. Yeah it was very jaws slow build. Yeah purposefully and just cool. Because i didn't. I didn't know anything about the movie going in so i didn't know if it was going to be a monster or a person or people people. Yeah but the movie takes. Its time but without being boring or dull in this whole setup. The shots of the monster moving in the background were very effective. And going ooh my watch. My wife was like fucking moved. And i'm like you did. I didn't see i'd never wind. Yeah i want to go back and watch it. I heard that there's a lot of that going on in the background. And all in all. I think the actress did a good job. Yep three and a half before he heads for me boom shock. I'm right there with you. I also gave it three. And a half yeah. I thought this movie was really interesting. I wasn't board for a second. There is creeping in the monster. The cinematography like it was a very pretty movie to look at all the the woods and everything it was just a cool setting. My biggest criticism is it wasn't really original. it was kind of. We've seen it before. Yeah people lost in the woods kind of blur which but executed really well. I liked it. I would totally watch again. I mean it's based on a book. So i can't blame them that much. Blame the guy who wrote the book. Yeah unoriginal bastard here novel. Wash the rachel who gave it three and a half hour come on. Would you bump it to have no no. I won't be doing that. Look at this film. It's called the ritual. Let's let's move on. Let's shift gears. Velvet buzzsaw twenty nineteen written directed by. Dan gilroy dan gilroy. He's quite famous. I guess he's done some other things. He's married to rene rousso. Yeah he also directed night. Crawler that no. That's a cool move on. That's with also jake gyllenhaal russo. so but he's written and directed a few things. Yeah he wrote free jack. Here's that movie. With mick jagger emilio estevez wait a second free jack. Maybe it's like a guy he travels like. He gets sucked into like a different timeline. Or no it's really weird. It's not good. Yeah what's funny is on. Tv a few weeks ago. And i watched it. And for the first time since i was like ten god awful. Yeah did you see. We're twelve hours amelio not that long ago maximum and then and then you sent me that we because we were saying like. Oh where's the mighty ducks. All of a sudden mighty. Ducks is coming out on disney plus create a tv. Show not us everyone associated with that show. Apparently it's like they saw what happened with the karate kid. Yeah what other movies can we make. Tv shows out of Anyway so dan gilroy wrote and directed this music by so night. Stalker was good. It's not about crawler nightcrawlers. It's about a guy who photographs to guy who like gonzo type journalism select. He goes in like films and then he sells like the footage that he gets till like news stations. So he's like peter parker kinda but with film. It's the movies wild. It's pretty crazy after ought to actually liked it. I liked to. I heard good things. It's a cool movie j. john super creepy and like his character is really intense. Doesn't ever blink. Like michael caine dishes. Jake just the other day to anthony hopkins as Hannibal lecter denver balloon addition. Anthony jake what she called. Do his job. Blinky shows you can link in. And i'm not blinking. Moisture bordering lake crying dead inside shrivelled raisins but four music by marar builth and buck sanders. markle bill trauma has done a lot of course scream that twin peaks. Yeah lots of stuff. He's just the list is long stars. Jig jilin hall as morph van dewalt rene russo. As ribera. toni collette as gretchen. Toni collette from hereditary other thinks ge- hereditary. She should've got an oscar for them early. Nomination bullshit movies movie. And i don't know if we will. We will either. We've toyed about doing hereditary in midsummer. But they're so hard to talk about in their long. I got it. Midsummer takes place in sweden also. Fucking sweden partisan ritual sacrifice. There's always these cults that are in the fields of sweden. There's nothing to do. You wanna former cult mccoy you work for the girl with the dragon. Tattoo takes place in a sweden also. Yeah goddamn threes. Awesome doing there. Here's a midsummer good movie. Yeah hereditary better than midsummer. I believe in my opinion probably put him put all fucked up and both have scenes of really graphic like fucked up like holy shit. What just happened moments. Yes so i would definitely give it. I don't know three and a half to four for so they were go. Boom reviewed little bonus bonus. Podcast go at least egg zoe. Zoe ashton as josephina. Tom sturridge as john john. John john donavan bob blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I can scott bail. Oh but anyway I got a rewatch arrested development from yeah lucille she. She just died. She lived a good life. Yeah she was funny fucking wonderful on that. Show your favorite characters so hard to pick a favorite so my favorite characters. I'm like oh lucille was good. Oh tobias tobias was was great. Obviously jason bateman character is is wonderful. Job job is great. Maybe i like. I like them all a whole bunch. Yeah buster handy sale by a lucille. The writing show it's brilliant anyway. Davi digs like that guy play damage. He's also thomas jefferson and hamilton Hamilton the musical. Which if you haven't seen it see there's no horror in it but it's great is good John malkovich plays pierce. And there's other people in it too and others. You know. John malkovich his role. Isn't that large now. Yeah pretty small. Part and divy digs is the same but release date january twenty seventh twenty nineteen at sundance february. I twenty nineteen. I guess on netflix budget. Twenty one point two million dollars isn't big as wow who they for the cast yeah Nobody office alright. Plot strip this down to the bare essentials. Here we go. Jay jilin hall is an art critic and he attends a art exhibition his friend. Josefina and Josephina works for rivera. Who's rene rousso character. And she's the gallery in la. Then i guess now okay. She has his velvet buzzsaw tattoo on the back of and did they mention that she was part of yes. Okay i must have missed it. Because i did get up yet. There's a conversation towards the beginning. I think it's digs. That's having the. I think it's him. Somebody's talks about how she like. I've known about sincere punk rock days. Okay so she's in the midst of a called velvet buzzsaw. Yeah which is kind of a cool name his a really cool thing. But it's kind of a rip off of it underground in velvet revolver and velvet elvis habit velvet velvet. Did you did you pros by ville feta cheese. I don't think so dude. I used to love like just chopping off chunks of velveeta. When i was little and then like i don't know when i was older. A chopped off a chunk and like bit into it and i'm like this is gross gross beloved. She's you can keep in the cupboard. It's in a box it's you you buy it at a bar open up and it's got like this teen the trick is you got to put it out and see if the males passes on cheese pitch it but it's pretty return. Its nose up. Little doug again can get some fucking gouda. It's good to melt into stuff though like You can make good case with vida. That's true but just eating it like on a sandwich. I don't think anybody's ever done that. What about are like velveeta. And spam sandwich. Jesus vera head span. It's been a long time salty. I like some bad from what i remember. I haven't had either. Yeah that's what should fucking chopped deliver it fucking show. No do this your first of all. I'm going to go often. The fucking ralph. You like tanzania golfing. I fucking tangent so chopped. Its on food network and the concept of the show. Nope okay concept to the show as they get four cooks contestants. These are professional cooks. They're not like gordon ramsay reading like that. But they're being judged by professional. Cook judges judge. That's my daddy was a his. Daddy was a judge named my kid. Cook judge some day. You'll be a judge They're being judged by cook judges and they get. There's three rounds of competition in each round. One person gets knocked out so the one winner. If you win ten thousand dollars cash lose death back and shoot you lose you. Just leave the competition but each round of the do an appetizer around an entree round and a dessert room. each round. they get a basket in. The basket is all the ingredients that they have to incorporate now they can use additional ingredients but they have to incorporate these okay and they're like some of the most bizarre fucking ingredients ever. It's like what did they have the other night with saba candy canes bucking horse. Dick d- desert potted meat. Oh so the canned fucking meat. And i had never seen pod when someone says can meet think a spam but this is like canned meat. It's like you could pour it. It looks like pink. Refried beans gross. It's but like worse like it's just like gross. Had to use that shit so they give them all this bullshit ingredients right like horse dick and fucking musabe can cans and potted meat and like fucking goat entrails and then. The judge is like Not quite what. I what i was done with horse dick. But that's what they do. They're like i don't know about this mother and then they say you got to cook it in twenty minutes to create something us all these fucked up ingredients and make it good enough for these cook. Judges mccook judge is going to be like. I don't know about this listen. Why don't you put the apron on and start cooking already is the horse. Dick is a garnish necessarily edible. Yeah fucking bullshit ass. Show fucking pisses me off more than anything. And i watch it and listen food network. That's all the show. Yeah it's either that or guy. Fieri fucker with fuckers on everything diners drive ins and dives fucking guys grocery games. Same concept this show. Go find some fucked up ingredients and try to cook them in this time that you better make them five fucking michelin star meal a bull semen yes dot so wait is the taste is familiar van wilder. It's been a long time. Bedwell there the dog. The bulldog is like testicles just get bigger and bigger and so they finally let them fuck and they get all of his season eclairs in the frat house that they don't like what of the guys is there and they're like delicious. I've tasted this before. Where is that tart taste. salty salty. Surprise go good all sick all right so she was part of this being the talk and she owns she has she'll she owns us gallery. She's she's a pretty big artwork and so is more the jalen hall. He's like a pretty famous critic. Whatever he says is what people are going to buy. Your good review from people are going to buy your yeah spent obscene amount of money on some bullshit. Morph is got a boyfriend but he's also like fascinated infatuated with josephina and they have a bit of a history like hooked up once in the past. Yeah and they quickly hook up again because josephine is boyfriend cheated on her. Yup josefina goes back to los angeles. They're like i said they were in miami but they go back to los angeles and Josephine is in her apartment complex. One morning she's on her way to work and there is a guy who's dead niche finds dead guy. There's a lot there's a lot of character. Well there's one specific character who finds dead people all the time that poor woman josephina finds this dead guy and she calls the cops and she finds out that his name was Veteran veteran dis joseph finds out that the guy wanted all of his stuff destroyed his apartment and he's also got a cat and he has no no relatives. Yep no living relatives but she goes into his apartment and there's paintings and artwork everywhere. Yeah now she's in the art world and she recognizes. This is good stuff. Yeah and she's like faulk so she steals all the paintings and she shows them to morph into a resort and both of them are like holy shit the they're like this is the next big thing and restore is going to exhibit a lot of the pieces but she's going to keep some of them aside. Yeah and more says like. I'll i'll even write the brochure for it but you gotta give me a couple of pieces to give me a couple of nights. One read a book. You getting your book rates. I'll write the book. And i'll write the brochure and i'll write reviews. You'll be able to sell these. We're all gonna make millions dollars. Yeah gretchen. who is toni. collette. Toni collette character. She works for museum and she's going to like kind of branch off to become our dealer or something. Yeah client is for see. I don't know enough about the art world to even understand a lot of that but apparently there's people who buy she was going to be almost like a broker i think for people who collect are and She gets wind this she sees it. She loves it pierce. Who is john malkovich's character was or is like a big time art yet is and he's kind of a rut creatively sees it and he's just like inspired in well and blown away blown away at davi digs who's also an artist sees it and they're like nothing i can do. We'll ever be this good. Yeah so they're like not really inspired. What's the opposite of inspired. Yes yeah not inspired. But they're kinda mesmerized by just the talent there's holy shit but it really like deflates them because they're like nothing i can do. We'll ever be as good as this. One of the guys who worked for. Dora is going to transport some of the artwork. 'cause yeah storage unit because the guy was actually really prolific. But they don't want people to know how many people yeah exactly so like put half in storage so you know supply and demand. We got the supply and demand a lot of money. Yeah we can exactly. We'll trickle out more down the road. We like oh we found some more but as this guy's drive in he's like And this guy was like an artist also like a not famous artist. He's like. I'm going to look in these crates. And he pops open one of them and he sees that they are these virtual these paintings and so he takes one and he puts it in his truck with him and he's driving down the road and lights up a cigarette. The fucking painting moves. It was like a face and all of us in the face. I kinda turns these the fuck. Yeah he sees it and he drops the ash of a cigarette onto the painting onto painting and it catches on fire immediately and catches him on fire but he still keeps driving. And i'm like mother. Fucker hit the brakes. Looks in the river mirror even sees like ghost. yeah and he's like faulk Crashes crashes his car his light on fire car into a gas station and was like fuckers going to blow a but he gets out and he has the wherewithal to pull out a fire extinguisher and put the fire out but he's still burned. He's pretty fucked up his chest and everything is all burned and so he goes into the gas station like bus down and puts water on on his cuts and everything which really made me uncomfortable. Another way and one of the paint. There's like artwork in the gas station of like these monkeys working on a car and all of a sudden they come to life. They start moving. Yeah and they grab him the grubman they pull them in into the painting. Yeah he done. He's right now yup and then The integrates go missing the crates. Go missing everything's gone and josephine and restore recover the truck. You know because it's been impounded. Yup and they're like oh this it. Where is their crate surya. Where's the dude and the guy was like. Whoa there was. Mr wandered off and was there anything worth anything. And they're like no no. Yeah nothing worth anything and he was like well. There's a lot of homeless people in this area. They probably took every like whatever it was in the truck and Josephina who has now turned like because she's got all this money and fame for discovering these paintings she's become like a partner of resor- almost and she's like you'd better fuck find that shit you runner find this dude. Well anyway. More goes to like a mill or like a factory where these used to work because he slowly starts kind of piecing together a little bit of this guy's history because he's researching his book. Yeah and we find out like a former co worker tells them that there was this other guy that used to work there that used to pick on them all the time on and they found dead also find out. The dis used blood in this painting. Yeah for the reds and blacks. Yeah there's another guy who works at a competing gallery as john done john donavan. He's looking at some artwork one night. And it's like some fucking. I dunno tableau the three d art like not like a painting link for. Can you know art. Yeah bullshit art. He gets hanged get by some unseen force. Yeah he gets home from the rafters like bunch of scarves or something and then the assistant comes in and sees him dead. This is the first the first of many bodies out the girl from stranger things. Nancy oh yeah she did look for. It took me a minute was like where do i know that face toni collette she sticks her arm and a piece of artwork. That sphere thing this fear thing and it gets ripped off your arm right off. That was pretty cool and she bleeds to death and then the exhibit opens up and people think that she's part of the art students kids that are like walking through the blood and stuff. Yeah then that's when again cocoa name cocoa did seize her dead body. Yeah there's a couple of funny things that happened like tight around the same time to like they go to john. I think it's john don's funeral or something. More flake criticizes the music. And the casket. Choice like this is such a douche so pretentious and he goes because morph is also starting to see things he thinks. He's a loosening. Yes she goes to an eye doctor and the doctor like you know says your vision is actually improved since the last time you were in. But he dilates is and it gives them like those goofy glasses. You gotta wear afterwards. He looks caesar heinous. There's a spike in interest in demand for the dc exhibit. Morphine joan of josephina actually break up because they had started dating and she starts hooks up with the other dude Digs care damn rush. Yeah he says when he finds out he says the admiration heavy work is completely evaporated. What more says to digs character. He has a couple of good lines. Yeah more says to. dora stop selling his artwork. Think something's wrong. She ignores him and he tells her. I'm going to write an article exposing like everything about because he also finds out like like tortured and killed his dad. Like this guy's got very dark past. Yeah so she so so she's just going to sell the our workers quickly as possible earn as much money more fires cocoa than who's found all these dead bodies. He hires her they by the way. How many dead bodies could one person discovered before the cops are like yours. Anything to do it. Yeah like what do you think the threshold is. Three two is bad coincidence. But by the pattern. Yeah that's a pattern your first one. They're like. Oh shucks that you found this your second one. They're like wow. That's really weird. If they died of natural causes like maybe but like one got hanged in the other one. Who's the first body that she found. Oh yeah one guy hanged in the arm ripped off. He says to coco like go dispose. Go get rid of all the artwork. That's in my storage locker yet. Josephina is out with damn rush at a dive bar and the marshes like listen. I'm not going to work with you guys anymore. Fuck you going back to my root cellar. Adora that. I'm not going to work with her anymore. So she's like well. I'm out of here and she leaves Her cars all fucked up so she calls for an uber. Whatever is somebody double-parked or something like that and S she's waiting like this art gallery magically appears behind her so she goes inside and shows a little weird calls dora on the phone and she's Talking to her about damn rash like quitting and all of a sudden like all. The paint starts leaking off of this art. Yeah and let graffiti art. Yeah and it like covering her body unbeknownst to her right away on the other end. There's like regattas cat gets outside so she'd go and chasing after the cat and a piece of our work almost crush lesser. Yeah but she backs away from it. Josefina that the paint is all over her. She screams and is like trapped inside of a painting. The fucking art gallery disappears and it's just a brick wall with graffiti on it yet. She is part of the graffiti. It's fucking xanadu. You ever see that movie xanadu fucking xanadu like three people out there. We'll get this other that waxwork movie really like this one sucking them into like the painting. I think link xanadu. Olivia newton john and like all the other fucking got to leave we. Mad g took an roller skate movie. S i've never paintings. I think. I don't know it's either that movie or the wiz one of those movies paintings and they're on roller skates so could be the whiz anyway. Oh she's part of that. The painting Meanwhile that the storage unit morph lose like a robot. Yeah well that goes back to the beginning. Let me just preface. Oh yeah at the beginning of miami one of the art fucking bullshit. Art was this robot and it was like called hobo man or robo manage one of those dudes you see like on. The boardwalk like was do not supposed to be a robot. Yeah but that's put a quarter in my robot shit. Yeah anyway go ahead. So now he sees this at the storage locker chasing him. Yeah coming after him and then We don't really see what happens. But then we get. The aftermath koko finds scope is to the storage locker. Ed she finds a dead bad luck. Were dora finally succumbs to. Something's unlucky about all this artwork so she gets every piece of artwork in her house removed. Yeah and she asked the movers. She's like is everything gone. And they're like yep all forty seven pieces and she's a great wonderful all. the art is and as the wrapping. Up coco is like leaving to go back to going back to michigan. Yeah she's from. She's like whatever she passes of the side of the road. There's homeless people selling five bucks. It's the people that took him from the creates and then ribera is at her house and there was one piece of artwork. She forgot about yup. And that's her tattoo. Bella buzz that search moving and it slices her fucking head. The comes to life and then That's the end of the movie appears. Jump just drawing patterns in the sand. That was weird. Yeah did you think you want me to go. I i don't care. I ain't gophers it matter. Go first things about the movie that i liked like all the acting was fine. I kinda like the concept that the execution like get into what i didn't like i thought the movie was slow. It was kinda boring. I wish the paintings themselves came to life like the paintings. I didn't like that like any art. Would like kill you lick gas station art and like graffiti like i wish it was contained to just his paintings being evil and the paintings doing something so i thought there was stuff about at this thought was weird and then i couldn't help it compared to night crawler which is just a far movie. I thought it was just okay. I'm kind of between the two and a two and a half on this one. Okay give it a two and a half. So i'd say give it a watch but i was kinda mad about it all right so this might surprise you. Yeah but i like this film really. It's so weird. It was definitely weird. Generally not something. I'm drawn to. It's this is not my typical goto style movie. And if someone have told me what this was about if we weren't doing the podcast. I probably wouldn't emma washington however i was sucked in immediately and i don't know why but i found myself being captivated by the art world that they present in here and the story of like these haunted paintings The greed infatuation all the stuff that goes in with it. I found myself just being like i remember. I paused it at one point Again my wife. And i watched together positive one point and i was like i have to go to the restroom and i said to her. I don't know what it is about this. But i'm like looked and she's like me to say when we were both like hooked by now. Are there some flaws. Yeah i understand like there's a little bit of like all. The artwork comes alive. I get that. I get what you're saying. Is that goes. I'm not going to give this a perfect rating by any stretch. The imagination thought jig jillian hall did awesome. He's a great actor. He's good and everything. I thought all the actors did was acting was fine but especially jalal. I thought the i thought there was good. Comedic moments that were very like dark comedy or dry. Yeah there's definitely some funny moments. Obviously jig jila has a lot of funny lines but even the cocoa finding three. That's funny to me. So i gave the film three and a half pamela tape heads so there you go. That's three so that's a three overall. I think of the to the ritual is more of a horror movie. Yeah this was not really horror tales from the christie kind of a little bit. Yeah little waxwork. Yeah i did like the commentary of about just the art world and critics in how what someone says about your art can determine its value. It's just bullshit and is listening to like what a critic says in anybody who listens to people that criticize stuff as idiot eric. I really liked the so now. I have to go out and buy persons that it was good. Yeah exactly exactly. And speaking on behalf of two people criticize movies now for our livelihood or anything but just in in their spare time lake the stuff we say take with a grain of salt. Our opinions the elite. We try to give you as the listener insight into our lives and our point of views. So you can say like well. I agree with david more than i agree with. Bret with brett more than agree. David disagree with these guys wholeheartedly. So then you can say well if they liked it or didn't like it. I might like it or not like it. So find find fucking roger ebert. It's going to go to the video store and he's like brits picks yeah and there's like my nose my ass a pickle him. I don't know so good good call on the on the movies. Though i enjoyed. I enjoy not having to pick. That was kind of nice. Is we watch chicken episode off. Ralph thank you for that. Karl thanks for turning ralph onto our podcast and if you guys out there Who are not ralph. Although you guys can contact us too but If you have any ideas for episodes that you would like to see us review Go ahead and contact us. How can the social media were on twitter. Facebook and slasher app is the swear wolves on instagram. We are the swear wolves podcast. You can go to our website. This world's dot com messages there. We have this world's youtube channel or you can email us at swirls podcast at g mail dot com so for the of this week. I'm brett david. I gotta go Touch my taint. I'm gonna touch magoo It kind of reminded. Let me just my headphones. I hold on a over sudden. I lost all ability to my arms in hands at the same time.
5-9-2021 Worship Service
"Well like welcome each and everyone of you here. This morning we begin. Service will sing. Song will sing number. Eighty five all alone a off saw. Oh a will ohio a a long. Hello the In every thing that we do and to be alone with him wherever we may be we can be along with christ. Jesus whether or not you're in a crowd of people or wherever that opportunity is there for us to be able to communicate with him and to know what his only is to be done with us. Today is a day throughout our country. We celebrate a day for mother's mother's day. Donner them and give them. Thanks for all they have done for us in our families. And that's something that i want to stall to be remembered saw and we can see and know what has taken place as throughout the pam of what the woman has had a role to play here in the life of god air in the life of people here on the earth that god put her here for a place and she has a duty to do she has a work to do just as the man has a duty in a work to do also but it is that they worked together and a hone man and his wife. And that's the way. God planned that from the very beginning and i'd like to read a few things today and just discuss some of the show. What some of the righteous women have done what. Some of the writers in the bible have written about women's work here on the earth. I i'd like to read some in proverbs. This'll be and the thirty. Sorry he thinks the thirty first the last one in the book of proverbs and we'll read through this it talks about the woman a virtuous woman. And how she lives her life and how she takes care of the family and her husband and all things. So this is the thirty first verse of problem for thirty first chapter of proverbs. The words of keen lim. You'll the prophecy of his mother taught the prophecy that his mother taught him the words and the things that she taught him about life. And about how to live. What my son. And what the son of my womb. And what the son of my vows give not by strength into two women north are ways that they too they that which destroy kings. It is not for kimes you. It is not for kingdom kings to drink wine nor for princes strong drink less they drink and forget the lol and promote the judgment of any of the afflicted. Give strong drink into him. That is ready to perish and wine into those that have heavy hearts let him drink and forget his poverty and remember his misery no more open my mouth for the dumb in in the calls of all such as are appointed to destruction. Open our mouth judge righteously and plead the calls of the poor and needy believe his mother there had given him a lot of good sound advice as a cane. And there's a man doesn't matter who were to able to live under these things to be careful what we do. Do not go after strange things. Not let the lust of the flesh overpower the spirit of the holy ghost within you and even goes right on down into things there that we look around that are so prevalent throughout the world today. How to demand will let the lust of the flesh overcome them and how they we use drink and drugs and all manner of things that will alter their mind alter their thinking. And how could we have a good man. How can we keep our mind up on the work of the lord if we're allowing it to be distorted with alcohol or with drugs things that ma'am look sapone and she was warning him about these things. Many hundreds of years ago thousands of years ago she was warning him of these things. And that's the same thing that the mother should be able to warned her son and her daughters about today so much more today because it is so prevalent out there in the land and he says. Open my mouth. Judge righteously judged. The truth of god judge rice. Le- let go spirit of the holy ghost the truth within us what she was telling me be filled with the knowledge with spiritual knowledge spiritual understanding and plead the calls of those poor and needy plead the cause of those that are poor and needy and spirit that you might be able to work with them but you might be able to help them on that journey that they might be. Come rich spiritually here for who can find a virtuous woman for her price is far above rubies. And look around today. What is virtuous woman that is one there the despite how god ask them to live all the way from the beginning when they come into as a young child even being virtuous in how they obey and our lady to their parents and listen to the things that they asked them to do and then as they become older and and become how more knowledge of how god would have them to do is to live under the way that he would have them live to keep the body virtues to keep the mind in that same way to keep it virtuous keep it at one with the lord never leading something defile it while they are here on the earth the heart of the house of her husband to safely trust in her so that he shall have no need of spall and the husband and the wife and wife trust in the husband that they have made the vows together and they will live together and trust one another with those she will do him good and not evil all the days of her life now remember. He's talking about the woman. But i wanna stall just use these things you can replace that. We've talked a lot about these kind of things here recently. About man and woman and how the woman should should conduct ourselves and how man should conduct themselves. But this woman here she was just telling him about what a good woman to find a virtuous woman as he was as he was looking for that and she was just explaining some of the things here of what that good virtuous woman would do here. And i feel that these are the same attributes that should be today in a virtuous woman. One that is walking with the lower. She is like the merchant ships. She bring her food from afar. She rise with also while it is yet night and give me to her household and a portion to her maidens. She considered at the phelan by the with the fruit of her hand. She planted the danger she with her lawns with strength and strengthen her arms she perceived that her merchandise is good her candle goethe not out by night she left her hands to the spindle in her hands. Hold the distaff. She stretched out her hand to the poor. Yeah she she reached for her hands to the needy. She's not afraid of the snow. For her household for all her household or close the scarlet. She make herself coverings of tape street. Her clothing new silken purple. Her husband is known gates when he set up among the elders of the land. You see a coalition here that they are both working together. She is there looking after her family looking after her husband. Doing all that is necessary. Whatever it might be to take care. They them here and then he is one says it is known in the gates he is. They're setting among the elders. He is there one of the righteous is she is virtuous and righteous person that he is one of the righteous also here on earth that man can look up to him to see a righteous man and to help or two in their time of trouble their time of need be able to go and discuss things with him as he sat there and today with the man there she she make a fine linen and sell it and deliver if the girdles and to the merchant strength and honor are her clothing and she shall rejoice in time to come. She opened her mouth with wisdom and in her tongue. Is the law of kindness. Open her mouth with wisdom. And what kind of wisdom would that be sure. That is things that she should teach naturally here to her children but the main thing opener the her mouth with spiritual wisdom to be able to discourse with her family to be able to discourse with her children to teach them most thing and her tongue is the law of kindness. And how can that be in day. The time be filled with calmness. Except it be that. The body is filled with the spirit of the holy ghost that we're walking close to the lord and his one is directing our words that we say she looked well to the ways of her household and edith. Not the bread of idleness. Her children a rise up and call blessed her husband also and be prayed and be pray and he praises her listen her children arise and call her blessed because they can see and know and understand of how she is a virtuous woman and a righteous woman and teaching them and her husband also he praised with her in the things that she does here on the earth again they are working at one it is a godly home. Many daughters have done virtuously but thou excel us them. All favour is deceitful. Beauty is vain but a woman that fear the lord. She shall the praise and that is something. That's what we need to all understand today. And what are we looking forward today. Let's read that verse again. Says favour is deceitful. You can be careful about those things too much flavor from man coming from man it can be deceitful and it can cause you to go astray and the beauty. He says his vein. If we take this body and we try to decorate it or try to do all the things to make it more beautiful in the eyes of man he says that is bain but a woman that is that fear the lord but that is in her mind. That is what her gold is they. She wants that to be what her body shows as she is walking with the spirit of the lord but a woman fear the lord she shall be praised praised who praised of praise with righteous praise. Give her the fruit of her hands and let her own works. Praise her into gives her own works being done by the spirit of the holy ghost that is within her in our day. That's the way to look at back. Let her fruit net. Give her the fruit of her hands and let her works. Praise her in the gains the works of the spirit of the holy ghost within that virtuous woman and hard just doing the things that has been laid out here today to look after her family to encourage her family and to encourage others whoever it might be and the father the husband working with her and praising her in that virtuous work and her being subject to him and the children being subject to them and praising their mother and father looking to them as righteous father and mother is that the case with us today that is the thing that we should be striving for today and. I know that we can do that. But it is impossible to do these things without knowing our lord and savior. Jesus christ but with him through him you can live that virtuous life and you can walk with him and be a part of his word and let that show and everything that we do as we talk about constantly. Be careful what we say. Be careful where we go. Be careful how address. Be careful in everything that we do that. We are walking in accordance with his word here near the turnover to loot and read a little about what took place there with a virtuous young lady. A young lady by the name of mary she used virtuous she had never known a man she was a virgin and i believe that she was walking in condition there that the lord chose her to bear his son here phoned the error to bring forth. Jesus christ unless read some about what took place there of what happened. And the very first part of this chapter there he was talking about how the elizabeth hurley marries. Kuzma became with child at a very old age. And that was john the baptist and how he was the forerunner of jesus christ here on the earth. But let's read about what this virgin mary did. And what her life was into how that she had the things that she had to say about what god was doing within her at that time. And see if that is how we would have looked upon it if it had come upon us here. Starting the twenty seventh verse of the first chapter of luke to a virgin in spouse to a man whose name was joseph of the house of david and the virgins name was was married. Let's read that six verse so you'll understand what was taking an end to six month. The angel gabriel was sent from god into a city of galilee named nazareth to virgin in spouse to a man whose name was joseph. The house of david and the virgins name was mary and the angel came to her and said hail dow are highly favored and the lord is with the blessed are bowel among women. Listen that citation that came to this young lady. She's was probably very young. Maybe under twenty years old. I believe is what history will tell you and the here. She was an angel approach. Her and the angel knew all about her that she was in spouse using as we would call it today to be married to a man with they had not come together. They had not been married and the here. The angel came and said hail gave her a citation. Dr highly favor. The lord is with the blessed art thou among women. You're highly favored. He says now you are blessed. The lord is looking upon you and the virgin name. Their remember was married. This young lady wondering what she was thinking when somebody came this all of a sudden she sees this man this angel and these words began to come out of his mouth and which she saw him. She was troubled at his saying and cast in her mind. What manner of say you bait citation this should be thank about. How would be young lady. They're very virtuous godly. Young lady i believe and all of a sudden someone comes up to her against her. This citation she didn't understand all what was coming about what was going on to begin. Where and the angel said onto her fear. Not the angel understand that she was very apprehensive about what was going on and he just gave her the words fear. Not mary for thou found favor with god he was able to call her by her name to her fear. Not you have found favor with god now. That can come any of us down when we are in trouble when we see things that we do not understand in our lives and we may wonder about what's taking place have those ears to be able to hear what the lord is has to talk to us and to tell us about and how he can tell us say the same thing. Fear not for you have found favor with god. You found favor with him. He's been able to give you that spirit of the holy ghost and now you can be strong and know and understand what he will do for you. And behold bow shall conceive and now womb and bring forth a son and she'll call his name jesus that would have been a very shocking thing for her to be able to hear here a stranger basically she didn't know who he was but maybe it was being revealed to her and when he said that you found favor with god maybe she was understanding that this was an angel this was a messenger of god. That's all the named julie is is a messenger of god. Wanted to serving him and the angel said and her fear not mary for the hustle favor with god and behold thou shall conceive in womb and bring forth a son and show call his name jesus and he shall be great and she'll be called the son of the highest and the lord god show given to him the throne of his father. David now would have also been marvelous worse to here and things that how can this be. What is he talking about this. Look how great. This person is that he. You're saying that. I will be able to conceive and and this child will be in my you and i will bring it for. And then the lord. God show given to him the throne of his father david and he showed reign over the house of jacob forever and his kingdom and of his kingdom there shall be no an and mary them was wondering how can this be. She looked upon him them said mary unto the angel house. Show this be seen on. No not a man. She understood what happened. Had to happen there for her to be able to conceive to bring forth this child and he talking about and that was the question to her. How shall this be seen. I know not a man. I am a virtuous woman. I am a virgin. I have never known a man and those types relations and the angel answered and senator her the holy ghost show come up on the and the power of the highest shall overshadow the therefore also the thing which shall be born of the shall be called the son of god hears visualize in picture this again in our minds of this young lady standing before this man and her him bringing with this message to her and she asked him a question and he answered it very plain and clear the holy ghost shall come up on the and the power the highest. What is the power of the highest the power of god and shall overshadow the therefore also the holy thing which shall be born of the shelby called the son of god and behold by cousin. Elizabeth also concede the son in her old age and this is the sixth month with her. Who was called. Baron for god for with god nothing shall be impossible and almost all remember those things as we go through today and as you go through life that there is nothing that is impossible with god all things. It does not matter what it is. All things can be overcome by the power of god. Just think about right here in the beginning of this. He is telling us about some things that is that he is able to overcome. And listen carefully here. What took place elizabeth there an old lady beyond childbearing age was able to conceive a child because god created that. This was a work that god had to be done and god was able to perform it. Something man could not have anything to do with making that happen. God was the one made that happen and now here he is now with the opposite of that here he was working there with elizabeth that was beyond childbearing age. Now he is working there with virgin. One had never know man before another miracle of god not something that man had done. But it was the miracle of god that was taking place here on the error and mary arose and mary saying behold the handmaiden of the lord be it unto me according to that word and the angel departed from her. Listen to all these things now. Think about what took place she saw this and you can imagine what was going in her mind but there was one thing remember she was virtuous girl remember. She was walking in the lord picked her because her the way she was here on the air. And she said the angel left and she said be it unto me according to our word and mary said behold the handmaiden of the lord she said. I am just the handmade of him. I am in his hands to do whatever he sees fit to bring a phone me and she understood that there would be things that she was thanking on these the people would look on her as maybe a not being a virtuous person because of what was about to happen here but he she said be unto be unto me according to the word and the angel departed and mary rose in those days and went into the hill country with haste to a city of judea and entered into the house of zachariah and saluted elizabeth and it came to pass that when elizabeth had heard citation of mary the babe leaped in her womb and elizabeth was filled with the holy ghost and she spaces out with a loud voice and said blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of our womb. I believe elizabeth understood something about what was taking place here when she heard citation of mary when mary maybe came and told her she addressed her cousin there and maybe told her what was what was happening to her. She had some kind of citation there to it. And they said that the baby moved in her womb and elizabeth was filled with the holy ghost and she spoke out with a loud voice and said blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of the womb. And which is this to me that the mother of my large should come to me for low. As soon as the voice of say tation sounded in mine ears the babe leaped in my womb for joy and blessed is she that believed for their shelby a performance of those things which were told her from the lord listened that here was to righteous women an older mother and a now one had never never brought birth to a child yet but she was there with chow of god with child was jesus christ and this woman here proclaiming to her. She says blessed is she that believe it. And that's what. I want assault understand today. Blessed would be each and every one of us women men boy girl that believe in. Jesus christ believe that. He is the savior of the world. That believed that he is the one that can forgive us our cnn's and he is the one that can give us that. Comforter the spirit of the holy ghost that comes from god the father that will give us power than to believe in power to overcome satan for their shelby a performance of those things which were told her from the lord and there will be a performance of the things that have been told to us that are recorded here. In this book there will be a performance to the righteous. If you believe own ham and put our faith and trust in him there will be performance of his words in you. I know that that is the truth. And what you understand that just as it was the truth here of what elizabeth hussein for their show a performance of those things which were told her from the lord and i believe that it took place in that day and i believe that it is taking place here on the earth today. Best performance of the words of god or being taken place in people today and mary said my soul magnify the lord now putting all the honor think about what could have gone in this young girls mind. They could build her up and exalted her. They here. I am living in such a way that god has chosen me to bear the son of god but that is not at all what she was looking at. Listen to what she said. My sold magnify the lord and my spirit has rejoiced in god my savior not in man not in any of those things. But god rejoicing her rejoicing and what god had done in her for he regarded the lowest state of his handmade for behold from henceforth. All generations shall call me blessed. He's regarded he has seen me in load low estate of a worldly mind. I believe is what she's talking about there. But he says she says now but behold from hintz for all generations shall call me. Bless for he that is mighty have done to me great things and holy is his name and i want to look around today in our own individual sales. I know that there's people that have that spirit of the holy ghost that are saved and they can look and they can see basically the same thing what she was talking about here for he that is mighty have done to me. Great danes and holy is his name. You've been able to see that in your life that he has done. Great things spiritually in your life. That greatest thing is that newborn taken the oh man getting the old man out of your life and giving you that new spirit new life that he has given to you and then just holy is his name because he is the one that has done it not us. We have just accepted him. We have believed to phone him. We have faith any and we have put our trust in him and holy is his name and his mercy is only nam that fear him from generation to generation holy is his name that fair. What he says don't fair man the one that when he has just killed the body that is all that he can do but he says fair him that after he has killed the body has power to cast you into hale wrote specked him fear him respect his word respect his commandments live in accordance with the way he would have us to live our life having four faith and trust in him and his mercier's own them that fear him from generation to generation and that being passed on from generation to generation by man and by woman in bar mothers and fathers and preachers and teachers all the way along wherever it might be to show how the mercy of the lord. Is there for all who won't accept it that his mercy is there to those that will truly accept him. Those that are ready to last side that karnal mine and to walk with him. Today he hit showed strength in his with his arm. He scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts. He has put down the mighty from their seats and exalted them with low decree look around and people even thought that the son of man the messiah would come in and highway in a way that man would be looked upon you in a higher order maybe in the way they thought in that day but look how he was bringing the son of man here just a very low virtuous woman girl as how the god chose who chose to bring forth his son here on the earth and that was one of the things that the jews did not want to accept that the way that he came here to the earth they were looking for something way more in their mind hiring society you might say and coming fourth in a different manner then where he had it coming fourth in that day but he brought it forward in a way that it should and he says he has she put down the mighty from their seats and exalted them of low degree. He filled the hungry with good things and the rich. He had sat empty away. In those who are hungering and thirsting an act righteousness. Today will be failed but those that are rich in their own mind rich in their spiritual mind sales he will send empty away. That is the ones that will be there. Standing have final day and saying lord we cast out devils and we taught in the streets. We all of these things in your name. And he said depart from me and never knew because this is the this was that that group of people they were rich in their own spirit not rich by the spirit of the holy ghost but the rich in their own ways because they felt like they knew what to do and they were not hungering and thirsty after the righteousness of god and after his wheel being done in us. They were filled with good things. They were filled with the spirit of the holy ghost. He had filled the hungry with good things. He has opened his servant israel in remembrance of his mercy as he spoke to our fathers to abraham and to his seed forever and mary abode with her about three months and returned to her own house may stayed there approximately about three months. He says they're staying with elizabeth. This godly woman of age. And this young virgin there. She didn't run off to somebody else but think about how. I believe that god was the one that was leading her to go into be with this woman. Elizabeth that you might be able to gain spiritual knowledge and to gain an understanding of what is taking place here with you and taking place there with your cousin. Elizabeth also is a marvelous work that took place. In both of those situations i lived with gave birth to john the baptist. His name had been established in very beginning when the angel came and told them about her husband their zachariah could not speak because he questions and he asked the lord he says how will i know this and he says you will not be able to speak. You'll be dumb until this takes place but when a child was born god had told him to call that child john when the child was born. Elizabeth was well aware of what his name would be and some wanted to call him something different but she said not so and when his name he said his name is john is what she said. Zachariah mouth was open and he was able then to praise god to speak wonderful words of god to praise him what had taken place. And how are we. Are we willing. And are we. Ready to praise god in the things that happen in our life looks read some here in the second chapter of luke star here at the thirty ninth birsh. Second chapter of luke. This mother taking care of this child. They had brought him to the temple. There they had done things presented him to the lord and that day as they did and when they had performed all things according to the law of the lord they returned to go into galilee to their own cd nassar's and the child grew and waxed strong in spirit filled with wisdom and the grace of god was upon him. She's talking about this was mary. And there's the child that she had brought forth here on the earth. The child that she bore as a virgin and the grace of god was upon him and he was growing in wisdom stature. All of these things this chow was growing becoming a man. I believe he was about twelve years old at this point is what it says in the scripture and now his parents went to jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover and when he was twelve years old they went up to jerusalem after the custom of the fees and when they had four filled the days as they returned the child jesus tarried behind in jerusalem and joseph and his mother new nod of here. Now we can see the some of these things taking place. First of all here was joseph and mary the mother. They were righteous people. I believe they were going and doing the things that was commanded to for them to do in that day and every year as they went to jerusalem mayor on the feast of the passover that to celebrate that faced in to think and know what god had done when he brought them out of the land brought them out of the land of egypt brought them out of bondage to faeroe and gave them freedom here on the earth and how he did it with. The miraculous works that he did there and he had told them. Now you do these things every year and this had been passed down for hundreds of years mothers and fathers teaching their children and the mother preparing food preparing the bread and father may be helping to prepare the me and the drink that they were able to eat in that day and they are here they had been going there down to jerusalem to perform these things at that feast and when they were got when the feast was over they had started away from home and we make it think about these things ourselves probably a large group of people their friends and family traveling together and they were not going and cars and things but a lot of walking or maybe riding on a donkey or something of that matter or or a small cart it was not like it is today that we all go and we get in our car and we drive off but they were all together. I believe going as a group of people several album and they thought that all the children were there together but judge. But jesus terry behind. He was there jerusalem and joseph and his mother did not realize that he was not with them when they started away. And when they supposing him to ben in the company when a day journey and they saw him among their kim spoke and acquaintance and we may have done seen some of the same things. Here happen within us that we might be somewhere and we think that all children are together and they're playing whatever and you start looking all of a sudden there's one that is missing. He has gone or she has gone and done something different and is not with them and it came. Bring great concern to the parents and this what. It took place here with mary but they suppose him to have been in the company when a day's journey and they saw him among their kinsfolk folk acquaintance and when they found him not they turned back again to jerusalem seeking him wonder about you can imagine exile t that was within this mother. They hear her son and she knew this was the son of god and how are not taking care of him as i should. We thought he was with his friends with his family and they had traveled a whole day away. They had now to go a day back. Look at the anger. What did you just jump in the car and you run back in a few minutes and you find it. You're able to find them what we might do. Today is find them on their phone or whatever it might be with. That was not the case at all. It was a big city there and they found him not they turned back again to jerusalem seeking him and it came to pass after three days. They found him in the temple. Setting in the midst of doctors both hearing them and asking them questions and all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. Here's this twelve year. Old boy and harry was into temple there. Instead of going with his family he had gone to the temple and was there listening talking and hearing them and asking them questions to the doctors of the law that they looked upon their the high priest was what he was talking to those kind of people and all that heard him were staunched. It is understanding the nassar's at a very young age. And i know that even today that god can work in the mind of a very young person if they want it to be if they wanna just surrender and this is what jesus christ had done. He was surrendering to his father. And we'll see what he had to say about that as we go and we read a little bit father here and when they saw him they were amazed and his mother said to him. Son why how dell thus with us behold die father and i have salt the sorrowing as any mother. Natural mother would do when she saw. That son had done those things she would have questioned him. She would have rebuked him and i believe that's what his mother was doing there when she said son why has thou doubt thus how why has dow thus dealt with us. Why have you done this. And brought this sorrow upon us behold a father and i have sought the sorrowing and he said into them. How's that you saw me. Wish do not that. I must be about my father's business. And they understood not that the same which he space unto them the listen carefully to what he saying he said. How's the that you saw me. Where did you see me. what were you looking for. He said. Do you not understand and know that i must be about my father's business. Mary do you not remember that. I am the son of god. I must be about my father's business. I was at a temple where my father's business began. And they understood it not the say which he speaking to them and he and he went down with them and came to nazar and was subject to them but his mother kept all the saints in her heart and jesus increased in wisdom and stature and in favor with god and man he increased in those things with god and man and highs z with us. Today is he increasing with in favor with us. He lost favor with man while he was here. Upon the earth he did not lose favor with god. God took care of him all the way through until he took him back to the right hand of god. I to read a few verses here another time here with his mother and what took this was in john. Second chapter of and what his mother did in that day. And third day there is a marriage in canaan galilee and the mother of jesus was there and both was called in his disciples to the marriage and when they wanted wine the mother of jesus said into him they have no wine jesus said unto her woman would have to do with the hours not yet come now. Picture again is jesus. This was many years later. Here was jesus there with his mother. They were at a wedding celebration there. They were out of wine and that was something that was used at those comes celebrations and this mother went to jesus and she's told him she says they have no wine and she knew that that was going to bring some kind of maybe disgrace to the host. That was there to the people that were having the wedding because they had run out so she goes to jesus and she tells him that jesus looks upon her and he says woman what about to do with a man hours not yet come. What do you want me to do. He's maybe you say. And why are you telling me says hours not come. But then she understood who he was. She understood the power that he had she did not take that rebuking and go off somewhere and saw about it. She listened to his words. She understood who he was that he was the son of god and she tone this listen and his mother said into the service whatsoever he saith unto you do it if he tells you something to do she had full faith and trust in him and knew what he could do and she told us service there whatever he says for you to do you do it and there was. There was set their six water pots of stone at the manner of the purifying of the jews containing two or three perkins. Jesus seth into them fill the water pots with water and they fill them up to the brim and he said unto him them draw out now and bearing to the governor fees and they bury it and when the ruler of the feast had tasted the wine the water that was made wine he knew not which it was but the service which drew the water. New the governor of the fees called the bridegroom saith unto him every man at the beginning to set forth good wine and when men have well drawn then that which is worst but thou his camp the good one until now this beginning of miracles did jesus in canaan of galilee and manifested for his glory. And it's saiful's believed on him. Do you see how the mother was still part of his life and here he was he was pro. He was around thirty years old at that time she had believed in she had walked with him. Raised him been with him all of his life there and even though there's times when he had rebuked her told her reminded her of what his job was here on the earth she was still willing and they're to be able to tell people to follow him and she pondered these words in her heart. She pondered what god had told her from the very beginning i believe that that was saying that she kept in her heart all the way through. He said they were many sorrows would come up on her because of that and her heart would be pierced through with many sorrows calls of what man would do to her son and she was there at the crucifixion and she saw him hang there up on the tree and she saw him give his life for others and she to him when she told his fran john. This is your mother mother. This is your son and from that time. She lived with john and she was with him. There are other women that has played a great row and things here on the earth. And i want you to. Let's go back here. Let's go to two samuel unless read a little bit here and in samuel this will be in second samuel in the first chapter of that. And i'm sorry this is i samuel. I samuel first chapter ten verse and hannah rose up. After they hit eaten in shiloh. They were there they had come to do arms and her husband was there at the temple and hanno rose up after they had eaten in shallow and after they had drunk now ally the pre set up on the seat by the post of the temple of the lord and she was in bitterness of so and prayed unto the lord and well sore. She was embittering. Sold this woman. She was not a mother. She was bearing but she desired a child so much and she was there weeping sore but what did she do prayed unto the lord and she vowed a valid said. Oh lord of hosts if now will indeed look upon my look only affliction of down handmade and remember me not forget the handmade but we'll give them to the handmade man chow. Then i will give him into the lord all the days of his life and there shall no razor. Come up on his hair and listen. She vowed that vow to the lord that he would give her that man chow she would give him to the lord all the days of his life and it came to pass as she continued prayed before the lord that eli marked her mouth he lied. The priests there is looking up on her and look what he thought was going on now. Hannah she had had now. Hannah she speak in her heart only her lips mood but her voice was not heard therefore he la thought she had been drunken and eli set into her. How long without be drunken put away the one from the and hannah answered and said no my lord. I am a woman of sorrowful spirit. I have drunk neither wine or strong drink but have poured out my soul. Before the lord count not the handmade off for a daughter of below four out of the abundance of my complaint and grief have spoken heather to then eli answered and said go in peace and the god of israel grant the dot position petition that dow has asked cam go in peace and the god of israel grant the petition. That thou ask of him. And that's the same. God that we have access to do today. We have access to that god. Through jesus christ and i want you to see how. He granted this woman the petition that she had asked. And let's see how she followed through with what she had promised gone. And she said let that handmade find grace in our site so the woman went away in aid and her countenance was no more saying and they rose up in the morning early and worshiped before the lord and returned and came to their house to raimo and l. kia qena new hannah. His wife and the lord remembered her where four it came to pass. When time was come about after hannah had can see that she bear a son and called his name samuel saying because i have asked him with the lore and the man l. qena and his whole and all his house went up to offer and to the lord the yearly sacrifice and his vile. But hannah went nada for. She said in to her husband. I will not go up into the child. Till the child be weaned. And then i will bring him that he may appear before the lord that and they're abide forever and l. qena. Her husband said into her. Do what seem at the good terry. Until now has weaned him. Only the lord establishes his word so the woman abode and gave her son suck until she wind wing tail and when she had waned him she took him up with her with three bullock's air. Fata a were and a bottle of wine and brought him in to the house of the lord shallow and the chow was young and they slew the bullock and brought the child to ally and she said oh my lord as my soul live my lord i am. The woman stood by the here praying to the lord for this child prayed and the lord has given me my petition which i ask of him therefore i have lent him to the lord as long as he lived he shall be linked to the lord and he worshiped and he worshipped the lord their another wonderful story. A mother took care of the child. And you can go on and read. She brought him a coat every year when they came back but she gave him to god. And you can go and you can also read and see what a marvelous work that. This man samuel did from a very young age by just following. God he didn't even understand when god calling him when he was very young. He didn't understand but eli was able to tell him if he if you here again. It is god answer him. He has a message to give to you. You have those ears to hear today. Friends the steals that still small voice that is there within us today that we can hear his words and know and understand what he is asking for us to do today. Let's turnover to titus few versus there. I'd like to read in titus the second chapter and just to bring this and we read this recently but i wanna guess go over a few verses. He says the agent women likewise being behavior is become holiness. Not false accusers. Not given too much wine teachers of good things again. This is the mothers mothers and fathers and children lists all give them the honor that they deserve that comes from to a righteous woman. And this is what paul was telling him. The ran here to warn women to tell them the agent women that they be in behavior. They are temperate. They are grave. They are savior sober. Their sound in the face sounding charity sound in patients. And that's what he should looking at. Two in these aged women to become whole that become holderness not with false accusations not given too much wine teachers of good things that they may teach young women to be sober to love their husbands to love their children to be discreet. Chase keepers home good obedient to their own husbands that. The word of god be blaspheme again. These are things that working together. The fathers the mothers the aged man aged women working with the young people the young women but all for the glory of god that house the home may be a godly home and then walk in the slayings. The turnover to peter. This is third chapter. I peter likewise you wild house be in subjection to your own husbands. He just told them how the man needed to to live and to be at one with him and he says now likewise you wives being that same way being subjection to your own husbands that if any away not the word they may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives while being that condition. Nick you can help your husband if he does not understand it. Are you walking and condition. And in a way so that he can see that spirit in you. And you help him on his way spiritually while they behold your chase conversation coupled with fear all your husband listens and sees these things who's dorning let it not be the outward adorning the planet of the hair and of wearing of gold or putting on the payroll but let it be the hidden man of the heart and that which is not corruptible even ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is in the sight of god of great price after this manner also after this manner in the old time the holy women also who trusted gone adorn themselves being in subjection and to their own husbands adorning themselves with the spirit of the holy ghost by receiving that adorning themselves with leading that be what their prior two years as walking and and and serving him and a godly way. Who's adorning let it not be that outward adorning not be that we've got to do so much to glorify to bring a attendance or to us as in our in this body but to glorify him and to bring attention to god not bringing attention to us but let it be that hitman man the heart the one that is leading the one is there to direct all thing and that which is not corruptible even new ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is in the sight of god a great price. We've talked a lot about mothers and here today. And god looks upon mother as a tremendous has a tremendous responsibility in the home and a tremendous responsibility of bringing up and teaching their children and working with them and he has a place for us all the father. There has the responsibility to work with his family. And the mother father working together and the children being 'obedient to the paris and all things and that's one of the commandments of god and it's also throughout the bible. He talks about that other than your parents in all things to honor them to honor the mothers and fathers. But let's don't take too much of that natural honor but let's let give the glory and the honor to what jesus christ has done for each and every one of us that we can do and live a life as these women that we have talked about here today have they have set forth an example before us less. Follow those things unless be at one with him unless remember where fades should be today and put our trust in jesus christ and see victory in new. We'll bring meeting to close today. We're seeing number two hundred and thirty four. Jesus loves even me and if there's someone would like to make that commitment to him you can do so by coming forward as we saying that number two hundred and thirty four a A a a a a names jerk russell jack baptize you in the name of the father and the son and the holy ghost may the lord receive represent you to the father and the son and the holy ghost and may the lord rec- jesus was even me. They brought little children before him and bring him to me and it's mother's start young with them work with them. Teach them the truth. That are in this book not something. That man has gotten up the truce of this book. Teach that and young and all you have the opportunity to make that commitment and accept jesus as your savior go to him. Ask him put your faith and trust in him. He says i ask. And your save our come onto you. He says i will never leave you. I will be with you low until the end. I will be with you as long as you want him to be. In your life. He will be there for us to overcome all things. Give him thanks and the glory and the honor for what he has done for us. Let pray thank you lord. Thank you god for all you've done for us. Thank you for the examples that are recorded in your book here of how other people have lived godly lives and how weaken they'll godly lie by just putting our faith and trust in you in by accepting us our savior so be with us in the upcoming days be with others who are struggling spiritually to open their eyes that they may see may be able to see power that you have to give to them may be able to see the wonderful piece in the hope that you have there to offer to them and to see the power of god to can overcome all things for them be with us in the upcoming days that we're able to encourage one another with these kind of words we ask in jesus name amen.