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"spahn ranch" Discussed on The Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith

The Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith

03:46 min | 4 months ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on The Q&A with Jeff Goldsmith

"You go to the third one i started thinking of the The same of the manson people come to the house as not an epilogue but the third act sure so that means that those two days in february are the first and second act and once we put together an assembly that we had worked on for a while. It was obvious that after the spahn ranch. I gotta get out of. I gotta get out of february and gotta get onto the third. Act that that tops. There's no topping that. And so then after the spahn ran sequence. Then it was just simply wrapping up wrapping up wrapping up that night and so you have to wrap up that night before mcqueen calms you have to wrap up the night before he gets the phone. Call from trudy much to the chagrin of all the actors in the movie but the but you know once you realize that your topper is spahn ranch then you gotta get out of february as quickly as possible and so that ended up becoming the thing and like you could. You could do a version of the movie where there is no manson family and it could end with the phone call. Actually some people might even prefer that ending but but that made it a perfect ending for the book but one of the things. I also really like about it is you haven't brought it up. Is the the weird non-sequitur chapters that are just lancer. I was going to read it up. I i knew we were short on time. But yes the lancer. Yeah there's chapters in the book that are just like at least three chapters that are dedicated to just the lancer story. And i talked to one. Of the editors. I met with along the way and go way to think of the lancer stories and she goes well arguably the best written chapters in the book. Because it doesn't sound like me. I'm trying to write like elmore leonard or a louis l'amour but the by product of all that for the final climax as opposed to just having a an interesting touchy feely scene between rick and trudy. You've been following the lancer story without really trying and so you actually get the climax of the lancer story wrapped into this final chapter so it actually dramatic weight. It has a lot of dramatic weight. And you get so deep into all the character motivations for everybody on the show and the concept of of you know really kills. Dad willing not kill his dad. What's the right thing to do is fascinating you brought up spahn ranch which you excised from the book you took the tension away there but why hip spahn ranch yes but completely different version while ago version and the movies too good all right gonna go head to head with that twenty pages just trying to write what you get an. I love what you did. It was cute. It was totally unexpected and fascinating book. I absolutely love this book. Congrats to you on this. Thanks john i'm obsessed with cliff booth screenwriter now. And that's the other book you need to write about his screenwriting career. Because i want to interview cliff booth one day bullock man. I can't wait to see what you do next. And thanks for being so generous with your time. Oh it's my pleasure. It's always fun to talk to you and that's how the qna went down special. Thanks again to writer director quentin tarantino for being so absolutely generous with his time in coming down and chatting about his novelization for once upon a time in hollywood. It's out now. I hope you get it. And i really think you'll love it because it was so much fun to read and it was of course as you just heard really fun to talk about as well i would. Of course. like to thank our sponsor final drafts a congratulating them on their new release of final draft. Twelve their latest screenwriting software. If you've been on the fence about buying it discount coupon code q a pod. Twenty-one will save you thirty percent off of final draft twelve so now is the best time to buy it. There's a lot of cool new features in there. I've talked before about beat box. If you look up. Final draft beat box on youtube. You could see a video of what i'm talking about. I really love that feature. But there's there's a lot of great features in final draft.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

05:01 min | 1 year ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on KQED Radio

"You. It's great to talk to. You have been a fan for a very long time. But first of all, we heard that you actually came down with covert. Is that right? I did. I did early on and in march, but I was very lucky. My wife and I both got it around the same time. Andi are symptoms were very mild. We're a little bit of a keenness in about a week of extreme lethargy. I have to ask. I did not hear that You had the illness until quite recently. And but other celebrities have gotten sick and got like international headlines where you're a little like Jealous of Tom Hanks getting all the things he's not. He's no cry, baby like Hank's. Yeah, not gonna go running to the cameras. You know, I just didn't think the world needed another celebrity saying, Hey, but I had to one of the things I admire about you so much is that you spend a lot of years in the trenches. Your success was not early to put it mildly. So you did a lot of like, you know, Yeoman's work as an actor. Yeah. Did you ever have to work like odd jobs to support yourself in those early years? I did when I had to. I loaded trucks for Roadway International in downtown Los Angeles is in 1980 of use on sets. You know when the When the gaffers and the grips were like, Oh, we gotta move this off walks, walks over the star and says, Oh, I can handle it. I tell you what it has done, Peter. It has taught me how to load a dishwasher better than anyone I've ever met. Really? I'm telling you Are our foreman used to come around, and they would always only refer to you by your last name like Cranston. Come on. You could do better high in tight jacket in, okay? Brian, this is rarely happened. I'm I'm always given a list by our Internet is a lot of research and suggest questions and I'm looking down and I'm seeing a question and I have no idea why they want me to ask you this, but I have to because it's it's provocative. Here's the question that I was told to ask you What's Charlie Manson like in person? Oh, my God. Yeah, that was a weird encounter. When I was about Nine or 10 years old, My mom and my uncle dropped my cousin. I've a female cousin at the at the Spahn ranch, and we had been there before. It was a rental place. So you know we were there. We walk into the office and some younger guy, long hair came running into the office, saying Charlie's on the Hill. Charlie's on the phone, and they jumped on horses, men and women, and they rode off in a Gallup. We got our horses, and of course, we're just clip clopping away along the same direction they went. And about 1/2 a hour later, we see this trail of horses coming back toward us, and there were a few people on horseback in the front and then in the middle A guy who was not holding his Raines but the person in front of on the horse in front of him Wass and he was just undulating. With the movement of the horse and weaken his eyes were dark and black. He was a little guy, shoulder length long hair, and he was just Zoned out as he was undulating back and forth to the movement of the horse. And as he's passing, my cousin and I were like looking at him. She was in front in her whole course. And she turned around she goes. It must be Charlie. I said, Yeah. So flash forward a couple more years, and the murder happens on DH the investigation and then they discover him. And all of a sudden we hear that we're a news programme. We're at the spot a ranch and see me Valley where Charles Manson and his gang were arrested and you know, and they're showing pictures of Charles Manson on the thing, and before I could get my cousin's calling me and he's like that every night. That's amazing. Did you get any sense of how good he or bad he is at loading a dishwasher? You know he was too loose. He's got to be more measured in control. Hold and he just doesn't seem like a dishwashing. Loker got helter skelter. That's how Yeah, he was all hell's her skeletal. One last question before we go to the game, although I think I could talk to you all day. We heard that in a very popular tattoo is really realistic versions of well your face as Walter White on their bodies have. You must have encountered that in person from Yes, some embarrassed. May I was on I wrote a book and I was on a book tour and signing autographs of the book afterward. She goes. Would you sign my tattoo? I just I just got it. I go Well, Okay. She lifts up her dress right next to her panties is my face. And I just sign.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on Nopeville

Nopeville

03:22 min | 1 year ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Nopeville

"The police rated spun ranch, not looking for murderers. Arrested Manson and other members of the family on suspicion of running an auto theft ring. Because there is a technical error in the warrant. They were all released a few days later. Yeah. They went there looking for stolen Dune buggies. Yeah Yep Yep. Not even knowing that they fucking communities brutal murders. Yeah, but. They were able to like. Play it off as they're not guilty enough to be able to re released like any other person with a normal conscience would have been freaking the fuck out. About the police, just showing up at your compound, but they're all like fucking sociopaths. They have no empathy and they're just like most all on drugs, so that to. Maybe they don't remember what they did. So Manson went back to the ranch, looking for someone to blame for the raid of course and Manson chose a ranch hand named Donald Shorty Shea. Remember the he was killed around August twenty fifth, so a few weeks later after the raid Manson. Bruce, Davis and Stephen. Grogan were arrested for the murder of shorty right and it actually wasn't until like nineteen. Nineteen seventy seven that Stephen Grogan confess where the body was Irqah well, so Manson and the family left Spahn ranch after that and moved to Barca ranch in death valley. were. It was also eventually rated. Manson and other family members were arrested for murder and sentenced to death. Now that you've ruined the outcome of the trial. Totally didn't know spoiler. Alert GONNA. Talk about the trial. So the trial began on July Fifteenth Nineteen seventy with Charles Manson, being tried for the murder and co-defendants Leslie Van Houten Susan Atkins and Patricia Krenwinkel. On the first day of testimony July Twenty Fourth Manson appeared in court with x carved into his forehead. which he claimed to have done saying I have X. Myself from your world. He canceled himself. Canceled Culture can't come canceling muscle canceling missile from your world. I don't exist. Can't try me. Exist. What are your lawbooks? Say about that. Totally would never sound like that ever well I don't know He. He was a free thinker, just out loud. His co-defendants appeared the next day with their ex carved into their foreheads. Okay, so already just playing right into the fact that they blindly follow everything he does. They do it themselves, or did he do? They did it themselves? I e. Okay so throughout the trial Manson and his co-defendants would interrupt and mock proceedings to the extent that they were repeatedly removed from. To be forced to listen to the testimonies being given from elsewhere in the courtroom. Courthouse. But in interviews with the girls, you know much later in time. They said that he would actually tell them what to do. To disrupt proceedings that day. Wow, yeah, so every day was just scripted way of disrupting everything. That's weird. Was He planning on getting from that? I would assume just dragging it out. Yeah, just postponing the inevitable. Of the death sentence, or maybe you tried to go for some kind of sanity. Thing. I don't know..

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on Full Cast And Crew

Full Cast And Crew

04:43 min | 1 year ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Full Cast And Crew

"For all right okay. We're war tennis shoes. World's strongest man to me. Those were like the best movies. Well he's got to be a child. Now how old's Russell in nineteen sixty nine is he is he like born in forty five something he plays like a teenager but he's probably twenty. I have no knowledge of this whatsoever. And you think these are actually good. Took my kid to the barefoot executive and she laughed all the way through and really kind of flabby but there are laughs in it and they're super interesting. Okay there you know there from this time though. The tension between the counterculture like the fifties. You see that playing out a little bit interesting. These Disney teen movies but anyway there in one of these elastic magazines. There was an interview with Russell and he was saying like. Oh Yeah. I can't wait to not do these movies anymore. House dynamite. What are you talking about like? What are you going to do this better than these movies? The thing I know wow okay I'm gonNA check some of these out I. This is yeah. This is unknown to me if you didn't see him as a Kid. I don't know I know but I like this air like we did. We did escape to which Moun- Allah pod and I really liked that movie as a Disney movie. It was so strange and of itself. It sounds like probably shares a little of the DNA of the stuff. You're talking about but once upon a time in Hollywood. It feels like these movies were made like on that lot there. You a once upon a time in Hollywood fan. The I like the mobile. How many times did you see it twice me to see? I would see the third time I would see it a third fourth and Fifth Time. I think Tarantino unfortunately says so much shit that you can never separate. What's true but I've been told. Oh we're going to re release it with like forty more additional minutes around and I don't know if that's ever really happening probably post Oscar's not but you know we're bad news. Bears was may or the park was chatsworth. Yeah spahn ranch was. Oh that's right. Yeah actually it's really nice looking part of Los Angeles. I wonder if that park still there. Have you gone to the location? No I would Everytime in La. I think like Oh. This is the time that I'm going to go to the bad news bears park and then I like look and it's ten miles away. It's a fifty minute drive and a four and a half hours to get there. I guess I won't be making that But I did read that. There's a park that is it was dedicated as bad news bears park. That's not in Chatsworth that it was a park where Bill Lancaster played little league. Oh but So if you're listening to this and you want to go to the real bad news bears park in Chatsworth. Oh so that's the real one the real ones but there's another one that's been dedicated agnew's bears park but it's it's where bad it's where Bill Lancaster plant. I can't think of anyone else who would have to writing credits. One of them is the bad news. Bears and the other is the thing that is just the thing. Yeah we did the missing. Yeah I wish bill. Lancaster was still alive to talk about these movies. In the making of this. Where there isn't like you know. Well it's because it comedy like. This isn't taken seriously enough to have that stuff. Usually I mean yeah. I don't know this one absolutely deserves it. I think Stanley Jaffe is still alive. Obviously math I was in most of the kids are alive right so you could. You could certainly hear some interesting things about the making of but you know maybe some things should be a little more pure being to your dynamite story Bernie like. Maybe we don't WanNa know it's true. You know what I mean. Maybe you don't WanNa know. Sort of what went down. Let's move onto your latchkey TV selections. These are fantastic. By the way you're the only guest Bernie who has submitted a page of latchkey. Tv suggestions which includes that you did. Your own links arrived part of the assignment. No I usually just people tell me like three or four shows and then I go and look. You did everything for me. Which is incredible. So thank you for this. Of course being the TV producer that you are. This is the way you did this. That's what I that's what I love I was like. Oh yeah should have more. Tv producers on the pod baton. They do most of the work. This is Ray Rayner and friends.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

NewsRadio KFBK

02:39 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on NewsRadio KFBK

"And said hello to scale to pick is and stuff like that and so that was that was the the the result of Manson sending them out to the Terry Melcher house that Terry Melcher he Manson you with no longer living there was was Manson obsessed with the Beatles Manson was obsessed with the Beatles because what he would do when I learned this because I went to the Spahn ranch very soon after the case broke wide open and I sat there listening to his acolytes who were not involved with emerges and I was stunned because I heard the message was that Manson made his followers believe that the Beatles white album songs like helter skelter piggies in revolution what messages secret met it is the Manson warning him of an upcoming race riot and I mean that way that way there would be blood shed and Manson would stand free to the deficit escape this massive at war and come out at the end of it at a free man I mean it's all a bit crazy when you put it in the perspective of now but that's what he made his drug addled believers and members of the family believes where was the Ivan Davis's book Manson exposed to reporters fifty your journey into bad this and murder did you ever have an opportunity to interview Charlie Manson in prison no I get it if you Charlie Manson in prison but I did I was sitting about ten feet away from him watching him very closely for a year during the trial and I saw that he was an entertainer he was at this rap that he was a bit crazy and and it was a trial like nothing else on earth because Manson you didn't expedient know what to expect every day one day Manson jumped at the judge with F. shop pencil as she is you're gonna die old man so Manson I saw his antics I saw the way he handled the judge he handled himself and and then I saw I saw him in interviews and he was coming gobbledygook and at playing the poor button down man I I mean he was a great actor that's about as much as I can say about him why didn't his attorney ever tried to get him as you know insane well because they speak for the attorneys for the girls wanted to go originally on the insanity plea Manson said no way and every time a lawyer showed up to say the goals were insane and some of them were insane right Leslie van Houten mentioned said get rid of the lawyer get a lawyer to will go along with our decision.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

01:54 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"All star the merges he traveled in the early morning hours from the Spahn ranch back to the murder scene to clean off the fingerprints and do some a little bit of hiding out now it sounds outlandish and I believe it's total fiction because Manson knew he was on probation and that if he ever got implicated with fingerprints at the murder house so I think that's total fiction although it is in his book what's going on with Roman Polanski still I mean he is gosh I want Walgreens he now yeah Roman Polanski they did early eighties Roman Polanski golf got fired if you like from the academy of motion picture arts and sciences read the plan if you wanna loss got run the Polanski's pride made him sue earlier this year the academy to get his membership back again so Roman once to an event she is name and thinks that that my me moment that was ran from the country guilty to a blessed enough a a minor basically right yes he did and then the word nor did he go we went to France yeah what he did was he claims that the judge promised the off to the psychiatric examinations that he would then given probation Roman Polanski discovered the judge is going to send him back to prison well when did not want to go back to prison after his ninety day time in jail and so he just did a bank is we say fled to frogs weather is no extradition and that's where he lives today it's amazing that he's still there and what she did what he hasn't done anything as he since his brother he's got a new movie coming out about about the Dreyfus affair the man at the Dreyfus affair the French.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

02:33 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Blood of the victims and said hello to scale test is and stuff like that and so that was that was the the the result of Manson sending them out to the Terry Melcher house that Terry Melcher he mentioned you would no longer living there was was Manson obsessed with the Beatles Manson was obsessed with the Beatles because what he would do when I learned this because I went to the Spahn ranch very soon after the case broke wide open and I sat there listening to his acolytes who when all the info with emerges and I was stunned because I heard the message was that Manson made his father was believe that the Beatles white album songs like helter skelter piggies in revolution one messages secret message is the Manson warning him of an upcoming race riots and I mean that way that way there would be blood shed and Manson would then lead to the deaths at the state this massive at war and come out at the end of it at a free man I mean it's all a bit crazy when you put it in the perspective of now but that's what he made his drug addled believers and members of the family believes we're with iva Davis's book Manson exposed to reporters fifty your journey into bad this and murder did you ever have an opportunity to interview Charlie Manson in prison no I didn't interview Charlie Manson in prison but I did I was sitting about ten feet away from him watching him very closely for a year during the trial and I saw that he was an entertainer he was at this rap that he was a bit crazy and and it was a trial like nothing else on us because Manson you didn't excuse that know what to expect every day one day Manson jumped at the judge with F. shop pencil as she is you're gonna die old man so Manson I saw his antics I saw the way he handled the judge he handled himself and and then I saw I saw him in interviews and he was coming gobbledygook and at playing the poor button down man I I mean he was a great actor that's about as much as I can say about him why didn't his attorney ever tried to get him as you know insane well because all the attorneys for the girls wanted to go originally on the insanity plea Manson said no way and every time a lawyer showed up to say the goals were insane and some of them were insane right Leslie van.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

News Radio 1190 KEX

13:22 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on News Radio 1190 KEX

"Snake lake member of the family is the book and before we go back to the Spahn ranch thing I just want to touch on that mellow yellow part I thought that was so funny that you at one point you in your your girlfriend's Jan and Joan try to get high with bananas yeah well if you will Donovan that made that yeah those dollars in but they're supposedly scraping inside of a banana peel and then you what smoke then what was the deal thank scrape the inside of the banana as I recall yeah you know on a cookie sheet and bake there's a menu you know flake dead or whatever you smoked it you are exposed to get high yeah this is funny after I read that part of the book I remember hearing somebody do when I was like in middle school somebody tried to do that but they didn't dry the banana so they couldn't even get it lit I think they missed a whole part of that recipe so the Spahn ranch part of the movie and once upon a time in Hollywood is really just it was just it was really creepy was it was it reminded me a lot of of like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something it was just it was a it was so much atmosphere and and I show you confirm that in fact it you would have had that effect when people you just kind of came out when there was a visitor at the ranch you all kind of came out in congregated and you were saying that the the spawn the house where George Spahn who owned the ranch lived was not up so high there weren't that many steps was it what is is was it his dingy and gross as it is in the movie you know it was it was pretty dilapidated but I mean you know like in the movie they show you know a rat caught in that trap in the squealing yeah yeah so it's really filthy dirty yeah and I'm sure that how people think we live but we didn't I mean I think that we improved George's lot you know I think we improved the condition of his house I mean I remember cleaning as refrigerator right you're a bit of a neat freak which I admired about you that you said that when you would get high on acid you actually did stuff like cleaning right now you know it's still let me see the the cleanliness thanks it's funny though but so you said you you said did you know that house needed a woman's touch am I right in I mean I know you slept you say use veal took turns sleeping next to him did you also sleep with him George the old man I I I did take my turn you know like I think we took turns I don't know if you know we we did intercourse the maybe the intercourse with him but I I took my turn giving him head okay all right well yeah so this is the this is the frankness of the story as I had alluded to that there was but that part was a little vague and I was sort of surprised and I don't want to dwell on it but it was interesting because it it didn't it the this idea of all the orgies and all of the stuff that's not a myth it really that was what life was like according to your account inside the Manson family it's not exaggerated it doesn't seem it sounded like it was your new normal right we we you know we kind of did you know regularly I I don't know I don't think it was weekly we took acid pretty much weekly we smoked pot you know daily and you know we may be did the orgy Lovin thing you know every other week yeah maybe every every week occasionally but it was on the what you know wasn't a constant thing and then Charlie orchestrated that you know he he passed out the tabs of acid like a little sacraments and then you know he's kind of start taking off his neighbors sure and then one thing on the record it was everybody took off the next person's surer than that you know I mean it I you know I did that the I mean also I can describe it is the way I experienced no no I think that I don't remember it being like this total why old you know fever pitched or do you know right he I don't remember it that way but that put me people might view it differently so it but you also at this time when you were so enamored of him and you work fully under his spell you had also already experienced his wrath he had he had hit you I'm he had it you I think a couple of times by the time you got to the Spahn ranch and if you didn't like that but you were like everybody else you're sort of condition to to try to make Charlie happy end so you were very mood conscious I thought that was a very interesting that you lot of your day perhaps much like a lot of abusers would relate to was spent trying to gauge the mood of their but the person that was abusing them so you you had some clues and you I read an account that somebody else had said that you were the most hit person in the family but I don't know that I had heard you say that in the book do you agree with that assessment you know it is starting to come out that he hit a lot of the girls but not publicly so I think that you know he he uses as a tool I don't feel like he totally took out like his anger fury on people it was more disciplinary but in a kind of twisted way right I mean this is how people right this is exactly in that I mean I remember I yes he did slap me when we were like in New Mexico because like you know I I actually just want you know Hey you know do you need some food or you know and he was had a toothache or something and he just you know I spoke out of turn or whatever and and got slapped and then but it's not like he beat me and then the then the next episode I remember you know the extension cord I remember like winking at me you know like you know yeah I I'm doing I make in this example of field you know go go with that kind of thing so every time there was you know in my mind you know he had mitigated it wasn't just you know I I wasn't the recipient of you know on controlled rage and fury there was a reason for it and so I think that's why I accepted that well it may not okay no in India its not okay and I and I and I know that now but this is my perspective then I you know I I try to go back to where I was then and and you have both sides using your father hit your mom so in a lot of ways it already was a pattern that probably existed already in your mind is being a little bit is acceptable in some way and and sorry would you know he will I saw him as he was based on you know women are supposed to submit to the husbands thing is he so much for new thinking he's so yeah so but in a way falling out of favor with Charles Manson really save your life yes it looks like explain how your your life your entire future events on the fact that you're eat your he's mad at you or he's ostracizing you a little bit right I mean I would say in the desert and I didn't I came back with Bobby balls away and Charlie was furious and the whole energy and the whole kind of the the main draw that was going on the family at that time was totally different than I had ever seen previous he was really in areas really trying to gather supplies you know convert Volkswagen Beetle into dune buggies and vehicle indeed in dune buggies he had incorporated the straight satans which is like a motorcycle gang out of P. me valley into our family you know and they provided guns and knives and and mechanical services to convert these vehicle since it didn't buggies and it's just you know with like this frenetic energy to try though they weren't doing good and you know he was he I remember he hold hello my fingers and other people's fingers over flames on the candle light too conditional to not feel pain and it was just in and I from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not on but I was going no I was going in the wrong direction his eyes rocks the trees everything with calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the Gresham street which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch and Gresham street with you know like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents going to find your parents on taking back to your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I been with Charlie too long heard too many of those songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad read definitely separated and you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living with them and I just I just felt crazy I mean I wanted to jump on the roof of the house I'm up on the roof of the house view out old Charley's talk you know about living in a garbage dump and all I mean it was I just felt crazy I mean I really felt crazy you were programs yeah I was and so I I went back to Charlie because that but I sense that I felt comfortable but you know I mean I felt at in juxtaposition to to being in a like a more normal you know society whatever I just felt crazy and so I went back to Charlie and then he took me days Gary Hinman and I live with Kerry him in for a week or so and and then I got Gary Hinman to take me back to the Spahn ranch and the family really didn't live there anymore I think I think when that was still.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

Newsradio 1200 WOAI

15:12 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Snake Blake member of the family is the book and before we go back to the Spahn ranch thing but I just want to touch on that mellow yellow part I thought that was so funny that you at one point you in your your girlfriend's Jan and Joan try to get high with bananas yeah well if you will Donovan that made that yeah those dollars in but they're supposedly scraping inside of a banana peel and then you what smoke then what was the deal thank you for the banana as I recall yeah you know on a cookie sheet there's a menu you know flake dead or whatever you smoked it you are exposed to get high yeah this is funny after I read that part of the book I remember hearing somebody do when I was like in middle school somebody tried to do that but they didn't drive the banana so they couldn't even get it lit I think they missed a whole part of that recipe so the Spahn ranch part of the movie man once upon a time in Hollywood is really just uses who's really creepy was it was it reminded me a lot of of like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something it was just it was a it was so much atmosphere and at night I was so you confirm that in fact it you would have had that effect when people you just kind of came out when there was a visitor at the ranch you all kind of came out in congregated and you were saying that the the spawn the house where George Spahn who owned the ranch lived was not up so high there weren't that many steps was it what is it wasn't his dingy and gross as it is in the movie you know it was it was pretty dilapidated but I mean you know like in the movie they show you know a rat caught in that trap in the squealing yeah so it's really filthy dirty yeah and I'm sure that how people think we live but we didn't I mean I think that we improved George's lot you know I think we improved the condition of his house I mean I remember cleaning as refrigerator you're a bit of a neat freak which I admired about you that you said that when you would get high on acid you actually did stuff like cleaning right now yeah it's still let me see the thing is the cleanliness flicks so it's funny though but so you and you you said did you know that house needed a woman's touch am I right in I mean I know you slept you say use veal took turns sleeping next to him did you also sleep with him George the old man ari I did take my turn you know like I think we took turns I don't know if you know we we did intercourse the maybe the intercourse with him but I I took my turn giving him head right well yeah so this is the this is the frankness of the story as I had alluded to that there was but that part was a little vague and I was sort of surprised and I don't want to dwell on it but it was interesting because it it didn't it the this idea of all the orgies and all of the stuff that's not a myth it really that was what life was like according to your account inside the Manson family it's not exaggerated it doesn't seem it sounded like it was your new normal right we we you know we kind of did you know regularly I I don't know I don't think it was weekly we took acid pretty much weekly we smoked pot you know daily and you know we may be that orgy Lovin thing you know every other week maybe every every week occasionally but it worked on it what you know what I'm a constant thing and then Charlie orchestrated that you know he he passed out the tabs of acid like with the sacraments and then you know he's kind of start taking off his neighbors sure and then one single yeah everybody took off the next person sure didn't you know I mean it you know I did that I mean also I can describe it is the way I experienced no no I think that I don't remember it being like this total why old you know fever pitched or do you know he I don't remember it that way but that put me people might view it differently so it but you also at this time when you were so in numbered of him and you work fully under his spell you had also already experienced his wrath he had he had hit you he had it you I think a couple of times by the time you got to the Spahn ranch it and you didn't like that but you were so like everybody else you're sort of condition to to try to make Charlie happy end so you were very mood conscious I thought that was a very interesting that you lot of your day perhaps much like a lot of abusers would relate to was spent trying to gauge the mood of their but the person that was abusing them so you you had some clues and you I read an account that somebody else had said that you were the most hit person in the family but I don't know that I had heard you say that in the book do you agree with that assessment now it is starting to come out that he hit a lot of the girls not publicly so I think that you know if he can use the tool I don't feel like he totally took out like his anger fury on it was more disciplinary but in a kind of twisted way right I mean this is to help people right this is exactly in that I mean I remember I you know he'd get slapped me when we were like in New Mexico because like you know I I actually just want you know Hey you know do you need some food or you know and he was had a toothache or something and he just you know I spoke out of turn or whatever and and got slapped and then but it's not like you'd be then in the next episode I remember you know what the extension cord I remember like winking at me you know like yeah yeah I I'm doing I make in this example of you you know go go with that kind of thing so every time there was you know in my mind you know he had mitigated it wasn't just you know I I wasn't the recipient of you know on controlled rage and fury there was a reason for it and so I think that's why I accepted that well it's not okay no in India its not okay and I and I and I know that now but this is my perspective then I you know I I try to go back to where I was then and and you have all died using your father hit your mom so in a lot of ways it already was a pattern that lead just did already in your mind is being a little bit is acceptable in some way and and you know he will our shop he was based on you know women are supposed to submit to the husbands thing is he so much for new thinking so you know yeah so but in a way falling out of favor with Charles Manson really save your life yes it looks like explain how your your life your entire future events on the fact that you're each year he's mad at you or he's ostracizing you a little bit right I mean I would say in the desert and I didn't I came back with Bobby both away and Charlie was furious and the whole energy and the whole kind of the the main thrust that was going on in the family at that time was totally different than I had ever seen previous he was really in areas really trying to gather supplies you know convert Volkswagen Beetle into dune buggies and vehicle indeed in dune buggies he had incorporated the straight satans which is like a motorcycle gang out of P. me valley into our family you know and they provided guns and knives and and mechanical services to convert these vehicle since it didn't buggies and it's just you know with like this frenetic energy the try the they weren't doing good and you know he would yeah I remember he hold help my fingers and other people's fingers over planes on a candle light too conditional to not feel pain and it was in and I from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like a kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not on but I was going that was going in the wrong direction his eyes wrong the trees everything was calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the question three which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch and Gresham street with you know like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents going to find your parents on taking back to your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I been with Charlie too long her too many of those songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad would definitely separated them you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living with them and I just I just felt crazy I mean I wanted to jump on the roof of the house plan up on the roof of the house when you out old Charley's you know about living in a garbage dump and all and I mean it was I just felt crazy I mean I really felt crazy your programs yeah I was and so I I went back to Charlie because that's what I did sense that I felt comfortable but you know I mean I felt a a in juxtaposition to to being in a like a more normal the unknown society whatever I just felt crazy and so I went back to Charlie and then he took me days Gary Hinman and I live with Gary Hinman for a week or so and and then I got Gary Hinman to take me back to the Spahn ranch and the family really didn't live there anymore I think the I think when that was still taken care George in the main house but the back how you know with another commune that is kind of moved in so the crazy it was a crazy time and eventually apparently Charlie took me back but I was never part of the like inner circle I was just kind of like hanging on you know to the friend you know taking care of babies doing you know doing housekeeping cleaning or whatever but and the other girls were going on these creepy crawly missions and it was just a weird it wave this everything was weird enough I've had my head screwed on you know I would have that out of there I did so the the tragedy of Bobby beau soleil wall we probably won't have time for but it job in an even you know that all the names you mentioned are familiar to people that know that story and know that era let let me ask you about so you weren't included in any way you weren't even discuss didn't have to get out of any of those creepy crawly things where they committed the horrible crimes at at at the the the Tate mansion to the Polanski mansion or or it at the lobby younger house you weren't involved with that did you when did you suspect that murder was part of the Manson family agenda when did you start to feel like there's a much darker side to this it might my fears are unfounded it wasn't until we were at I'd woke up one morning to Leslie burning some of the.

Jan Donovan Snake Blake Spahn ranch Joan
"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"You know it was like this frenetic energy to try though they weren't doing good and you know he was yeah I remember he hold hello my fingers and other people's fingers over flames the candle it's like his condition us to not feel pain and it was just in and I from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not on but I was going that was going in the wrong direction yeah his eyes rocks the trees everything was calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the Gresham street which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch and Gresham street with you know like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents going to find your parents on taking back to your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I'd been literally too long heard too many of those songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad read definitely separated them you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

KLBJ 590AM

15:12 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"Diane snake Blake member of the family is the book and before we go back to the Spahn ranch thing but just want to touch on that mellow yellow part I thought that was so funny that you at one point you in your your girlfriend's Jan and Joan try to get high with Penn anise yeah well if you will Donovan that made yeah those dollars in but they're supposedly scraping inside of a banana peel and then you would smoke then what was the deal thank KPM because of Amanda as I recall yeah you know on a cookie sheet that they did it ma'am you you know flake dead or whatever you smoked it if you were to get high yeah this is funny after I read that part of the book I remember hearing somebody do when I was like in middle school somebody tried to do that but they didn't drive the banana so they couldn't even get it let I think they missed a whole part of that recipe so the Spahn ranch part of the movie man once upon a time in Hollywood is really just uses who's really creepy was it was it reminded me a lot of of like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something it was just it was a it was so much atmosphere and and I I was so you confirm that in fact he would have had that effect when people you just kind of came out when there was a visitor at the ranch you all kind of came out in congregated and you were saying that the thus far in the house where George Spahn who owned the ranch lived was not up so high there weren't that many steps was it was was it is dingy and gross as it is in the movie you know it was it was pretty dilapidated but I mean you know like in the movie they show you know a rat caught in that trap in the squealing yeah yeah you know it's really filthy dirty yeah and I'm sure that how people think we live but we didn't I mean I think that we improved George's lot you know I think we improved the condition of his house I mean I remember cleaning as refrigerator right you're a bit of a neat freak which I admired about you that you said that when you would get high on acid you actually did stuff like cleaning right now you know it's still let me see the thing is the cleanliness six it's funny though but so you said you you said it you know the house needed a woman's touch am I right in I mean I know you slept you say use veal took turns sleeping next to him did you also sleep with him George the old man I I I did take my turn you know like I think we took turns I don't know if you know we we did intercourse the maybe the intercourse with him but I I might turn giving him head right well yeah so this is the this is the frankness of the story as I had alluded to that there was but that part was a little vague and I was sort of surprised and I don't want to dwell on it but it was interesting because it didn't it the this idea of all the orgies and all of the stuff that's not a myth it really that was what life was like according to your account inside the Manson family it's not exaggerated it doesn't seem it sounded like it was your new normal right we we you know we kind of did you know regularly I I don't know I don't think it was weekly we took acid pretty much weekly we smoked pot you know daily and you know we may be the orgy Lovin thing you know every other week maybe every every week occasionally but it wasn't what you know wasn't a constant thing and then Charlie orchestrated the you know he'd he'd pass out the tabs of acid like a little sacraments and then you know he's kind of start taking off his neighbors sure and then one single other call it that way yeah everybody took off in the next person sure didn't you know I mean it Hey you know that the I mean also I can describe it is the way I experienced no no I think that I don't remember it being like this total why old you know or do you know Gee I don't remember it that way but grab me people might view it differently so it but you also at this time when you were so enamored of him and you work fully under his spell it also already experienced his wrath he had he had hit you he had to I think a couple of times by the time you got to the Spahn ranch it and you didn't like that but you were like everybody else you're sort of condition to to try to make Charlie happy end so you were very mood conscious I thought that was a very interesting that you lot of your day perhaps much like a lot of abusers would relate to was spent trying to gauge the mood of their but the person that was abusing them so you you had some clues and you I read an account that somebody else had said that you were the most hit person in the family but I don't know that I had heard you say that in the book do you agree with that assessment you know it is starting to come out he hit a lot of the girls but not publicly so I think that you know if he can use it as a tool I don't feel like he totally took out like his anger fury on it was more disciplinary but in a kind of twisted way right I mean this is how people right this is sadly in that I mean I remember I you know he'd get slapped me when we were like in New Mexico because like you know I I actually just want you know Hey you know do you need some food or you know and he was had a toothache or something and he just you know I spoke out of turn whatever and and got slapped and then the thought like he'd be then they then in the next episode I remember you know the extension cord I remember like winking at me you know like yeah yeah I I'm doing I make in this example of you you know go go with that kind of thing so every time there was you know in my mind you know he had mitigated it wasn't just you know I I wasn't the recipient of you know on controlled rage and fury there was a reason for it and so I think that's why I accepted that well in that it's not okay no in India its not okay and I and I and I know that now but this is my perspective then I you know I I try to go back to where I was then and and you have both sides Eugene your father hit your mom so in a lot of ways it already was a pattern that probably a distant already in your mind is being a little bit is acceptable in some way and and sorry once you know he was a solemn as he was gone you know women are supposed to submit to the husband's cussing is he so much for new thinking he's so yeah so but in a way falling out of favor with Charles Manson really save your life yes explain how your your life your entire future pivots on the fact that you're eat your he he's mad at you or he's ostracizing you a little bit right I mean I would say in the desert and I didn't I came back with Bobby balls away and Charlie was furious and the whole energy and the whole kind of the the main thrust that was going on the family at that time was totally different than I had ever seen previous he was really in areas really trying to gather supplies either convert Volkswagen Beetle into dune buggies and other vehicles indeed in dune buggies he had incorporated the straight satans which is like a motorcycle gang of pygmies alley into our family you know and they provided guns and knives and and mechanical services to convert these vehicle since it didn't buggies and it's either with like this spring medic energy to try though they weren't doing good and you know he was he I remember he hold hello my fingers and other people fingers over planes the candle light too conditional to not feel pain and it was just an MRI from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not to fall on but I was going that was going in the wrong direction his eyes rocks the trees every thing was calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the question three which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch and Gresham street was in like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents find your plans on taking back to your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I'd been literally too long heard too many of the songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad read definitely separated and you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living with them and I just I just felt crazy I mean I wanted to jump on the roof of the house I'm up on the roof of the house and view out old Charley's talk you know about living in a garbage dump and all and I mean it was I just felt crazy I mean I really felt crazy you were programs yeah I was and so I I went back to Charlie because that's what I sense that I felt comfortable but you know I mean I felt in juxtaposition to to being in a like a more normal the unknown society whatever I just felt crazy and so I went back to Charlie and then he took me days Gary Hinman and I live with Kerry him in for a week or so and and then I got Gary Hinman to take me back to the Spahn ranch and the family really didn't live there anymore I think I think when that was still taken care George in the main house but the back how you know with another commune that is kind of moved in so the crazy it was a crazy time and eventually apparently Charlie took me back but I was never part of the like inner circle I was just kind of like hanging on you know to the friends you know taking care of babies doing you know doing housekeeping cleaning or whatever but and the other girls were going on these creepy crawly missions and it was just a weird it will list everything was weird enough I've had my head screwed on you know I would have the out of there I did so the it is the tragedy of Bobby beau soleil wall we probably won't have time for but it and even you know that all the names you mentioned are familiar to people that know that story and know that era let let me ask you about you so you weren't included in any way you weren't even discuss didn't have to get out of any of those creepy crawly things where they committed the horrible crimes and that at the the the Tate mansion to the Polanski mention or or it at the la Bianca house you weren't involved with that did you when did you suspect that murder was part of the Manson family agenda when did you start to feel like there's a much darker side to this it might my fears are unfounded it wasn't until we were at I'd woke up one morning to Leslie burning.

Diane Jan Donovan Spahn ranch Joan Penn anise
"spahn ranch" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

13:22 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on KTOK

"Snake lake member of the family is the book and before we go back to the Spahn ranch thing but I just want to touch on that mellow yellow part I thought that was so funny that you at one point you in your your girlfriend's Jan and Joan try to get high with bananas yeah well if you will Donovan that made that yeah those dollars in but they're supposedly scraping inside of a banana peel and then you what smoke then what was the deal thank you greatly implies a banana as I recall yeah you know on a cookie sheet and bake their demand you you know flake dead or whatever he smoked it you are exposed to get high yeah this is funny after I read that part of the book I remember hearing somebody do when I was like in middle school somebody tried to do that but they didn't drive the banana so they couldn't even get it lit I think they missed a whole part of that recipe so the Spahn ranch part of the movie and once upon a time in Hollywood is really just uses who's really creepy was it was it reminded me a lot of of like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something it was just it was a it was so much atmosphere and and I I was so you confirm that in fact it you would have had that effect when people you just kind of came out when there was a visitor at the ranch you all kind of came out in congregated and you were saying that the the spawn the house where George Spahn who owned the ranch lived was not up so high there weren't that many steps was it what is is was it his dingy and gross as it is in the movie you know it was it was pretty dilapidated but I mean you know like in the movie they show you know a rat caught in that trap in the squealing yeah yeah you know it's really filthy dirty yeah and I'm sure that how people think we live but we didn't I mean I think that we improved George's lot you know I think we improved the condition of his house I mean I remember cleaning as refrigerator right you're a bit of a neat freak which I admired about you that you said that when you would get high on acid you actually did stuff like cleaning right now you know it's still let me see the thing is the cleanliness thanks it's funny though but so you and you you said did you know that house needed a woman's touch am I right in I mean I know you slept you say use veal took turns sleeping next to him did you also sleep with him George the old man I I I did take my turn you know like I think we took turns I don't know if you know we we did intercourse the maybe the intercourse with him but I I took my turn giving him head okay all right well yeah so this is the this is the frankness of the story as I had alluded to that there was but that part was a little vague and I was sort of surprised and I don't want to dwell on it but it was interesting because it it didn't it the this idea of all the orgies and all of the stuff that's not a myth it really that was what life was like according to your account inside the Manson family it's not exaggerated it doesn't seem it sounded like it was your new normal right we we you know we kind of did you know regularly I I don't know I don't think it was weekly we took acid pretty much weekly we smoked pot you know daily and you know we may be dead the orgy Lovin thing you know every other week yeah maybe every every week occasionally but it worked on it what you know what I'm a constant thing and then Charlie orchestrated that you know he'd he'd pass out the tabs of acid like with the sacraments and then you know he kind of start taking off his neighbors sure and then one thing or another call and it was everybody took off the next person sure didn't you know I mean it I you know I did that the I mean also I can describe it is the way I experienced no no I think that I don't remember it being like this total why old you know fever pitch or do you know right he I don't remember it that way but that put me people might view it differently so it but you also at this time when you were so enamored of him and you work fully under his spell you had also already experienced his wrath he had he had hit you he had it you I think a couple of times by the time you got to the Spahn ranch it and you didn't like that but you were like everybody else you're sort of condition to to try to make Charlie happy end so you were very mood conscious I thought that was a very interesting that you lot of your day perhaps much like a lot of abusers would relate to was spent trying to gauge the mood of their but the person that was abusing them so you you had some clues and you I read an account that somebody else had said that you were the most hit person in the family but I don't know that I had heard you say that in the book do you agree with that assessment you know it is starting to come out that he hit a lot of the girls but not publicly so I think that you know he he uses as a tool I don't feel like he totally took out like his anger fury on people it was more disciplinary but in a kind of twisted way right I mean this is to help people right this is exactly in that I mean I remember I you know he'd get slapped me when we were like in New Mexico because like you know I I actually just want you know Hey you know do you need some food or you know and he was had a toothache or something and he just you know I spoke out of turn or whatever and and got slapped and then but it's not like he beat me and then the then the next episode I remember you know what the extension cord I remember like winking at me you know like you know yeah I I'm doing I make in this example of you you know go go with that kind of thing so every time there was you know in my mind you know he had mitigated it wasn't just you know I I wasn't the recipient of you know on controlled rage and fury there was a reason for it and so I think that's why I accepted that well it's not it's not okay no in India its not okay and I and I and I know that now but this is my perspective then you know I I try to go back to where I was then and and you broke up okay side you'd seen your father hit your mom so in a lot of ways it already was a pattern that probably just did already in your mind is being a little bit is acceptable in some way and and carry with you know he was a shock he was based on you know women are supposed to submit to the husbands thing is he so much for new thinking he's so yeah so but in a way falling out of favor with Charles Manson really save your life yes it explain explain how your your life your entire future pivots on the fact that you're eat your he he's mad at you or he's ostracizing you a little bit right I mean I would say in the desert and I didn't I came back with Bobby both away and Charlie was furious and the whole energy and the whole kind of the the main draw that was going on the family at that time was totally different than I had ever seen previous he was really in areas really trying to gather supplies you know convert Volkswagen Beetle into dune buggies and other vehicles indeed in dune buggies he had incorporated the straight satans which is like a motorcycle gang the seamy valley into our family you know and they provided guns and knives and and mechanical services to convert these vehicle since it didn't buggies and it's just you know with like this frenetic energy to try though they weren't doing good and you know he was yeah I remember he hold hello my fingers and other people's fingers over flames the candle light too conditional to not feel pain and it was just in and I from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not on but I was going no I was going in the wrong direction his eyes rocks the trees everything with calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the Gresham street which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch in Gresham street with you know like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents going to find your parents I'm taking you back to your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I'd been literally too long heard too many of the songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad would definitely separated and you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living with them and I just I just felt crazy I mean I wanted to jump on the roof of the house I'm up on the roof of the house open view out old Charley's talk you know about living in a garbage dump and all and I mean it was I just felt crazy I mean I really felt crazy your programs yeah I was and so I I went back to Charlie because but I did sense that I felt comfortable but you know I mean I felt at in juxtaposition to to being in a like a more normal you know society whatever I just felt crazy and so I went back to Charlie and then he took me days Gary Hinman and I live with Gary Hinman for a week or so and and then I got Gary Hinman to take me back to the Spahn ranch and the family really didn't live there anymore I think I think when that was still.

Snake lake Jan Spahn ranch Joan
"spahn ranch" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

13:22 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"Snake lake member of the family is the book and before we go back to the Spahn ranch thing but I just want to touch on that mellow yellow part I thought that was so funny that you at one point you in your your girlfriend's Jan and Joan try to get high with bananas yeah well if you will Donovan that made that yeah those dollars in but they're supposedly scraping inside of a banana peel and then you what smoke then what was the deal thank you greatly implies a banana as I recall yeah you know on a cookie sheet they said that menu you know flake dead or whatever you smoked it you are exposed to get high yeah it's funny after I read that part of the book I remember hearing somebody do when I was like in middle school somebody tried to do that but they didn't dry the banana so they couldn't even get it lit I think they missed a whole part of that recipe so the Spahn ranch part of the movie and once upon a time in Hollywood is really just uses who's really creepy was it was it reminded me a lot of of like a really good Twilight Zone episode or something it was just it was a it was so much atmosphere and at night I was so you confirm that in fact it you would have had that effect when people you just kind of came out when there was a visitor at the ranch you all kind of came out in congregated and you were saying that the the spawn the house where George Spahn who owned the ranch lived was not up so high there weren't that many steps was it what is is was it his dingy and gross as it is in the movie you know it was it was pretty dilapidated but I mean you know like in the movie they show you know a rat caught in that trap in the squealing yeah yeah you know it's really filthy dirty yeah and I'm sure that how people think we live but we didn't I mean I think that we improved George's lot you know I think we improved the condition of his house I mean I remember cleaning as refrigerator right you're a bit of a neat freak which I admired about you that you said that when you would get high on acid you actually did stuff like cleaning I know you know it's still let me see the thing is in the cleanliness thanks it's funny though but so you and you you said did you know that house needed a woman's touch am I right in I mean I know you slept you say use the took turns sleeping next to him did you also sleep with him George the old man I I I did take my turn you know like I think we took turns I don't know if you know we we did intercourse the maybe the intercourse with him but I I took my turn giving him head okay all right well yeah so this is the this is the frankness of the story as I had alluded to that there was but that part was a little vague and I was sort of surprised and I don't want to dwell on it but it was interesting because it it didn't it the this idea of all the orgies and all of the stuff that's not a myth it really that was what life was like according to your account inside the Manson family it's not exaggerated it doesn't seem it sounded like it was your new normal right we we you know we kind of did you know regularly I I don't know I don't think it was weekly we took acid pretty much weekly we smoked pot you know daily and you know we may be did the orgy love in thing you know every other week yeah maybe every every week occasionally but it what it what you know what I'm a constant thing and then Charlie orchestrated that you know he'd he'd pass out the tabs of acid like with the sacraments and then you know he kind of start taking off his neighbors sure and then one thing on the record it was everybody took off the next person sure didn't you know I mean it I you know I did that I mean also I can describe it is the way I experienced no no I think that I don't remember it being like this total why old you know fever pitch or do you know right he I don't remember it that way but that put me people might view it differently so it but you also at this time when you were so enamored of him and you work fully under his spell you had also already experienced his wrath he had he had hit you I'm he had it you I think a couple of times by the time you got to the Spahn ranch it and you didn't like that but you were like everybody else you're sort of condition to to try to make Charlie happy end so you were very mood conscious I thought that was a very interesting that you lot of your day perhaps much like a lot of abusers would relate to was spent trying to gauge the mood of their but the person that was abusing them so you you had some clues and you I read an account that somebody else had said that you were the most hit person in the family but I don't know that I had heard you say that in the book do you agree with that assessment you know it is starting to come out that he hit a lot of the girls but not publicly so I think that you know if he can use it as a tool I don't feel like he totally took out like his anger fury on it was more disciplinary but in a kind of twisted way right I mean this is to help people right this is exactly in that I mean I remember I you know he'd get slapped me when we were like in New Mexico because like you know I I actually just want you know Hey you know do you need some food or you know and he was had a toothache or something and he just you know I spoke out of turn or whatever and and got slapped and then but it's not like he beat me then in the next episode I remember you know what the extension cord I remember like winking at me you know like you know yeah I I'm doing I make in this example of field you know go go with that kind of thing so every time there was you know in my mind you know he had mitigated it wasn't just you know I I wasn't the recipient of you know on controlled rage and fury there was a reason for it and so I think that's why I accepted that well it's not it's not okay no in India its not okay and I and I and I know that now but this is my perspective then I you know I I try to go back to where I was then and and you broke up okay side you'd seen your father hit your mom so in a lot of ways it already was a pattern that oddly distant already in your mind is being a little bit is acceptable in some way and and sorry would you know he will I shot him as he was based on you know women are supposed to submit to the husband thing is he so much for new thinking he's so yeah so but in a way falling out of favor with Charles Manson really save your life yes it explain explain how your your life your entire future pivots on the fact that you're eat your he he's mad at you or he's ostracizing you a little bit right I mean I would say in the desert and I didn't I came back with Bobby both away and Charlie was furious and the whole energy and the whole kind of the the main thrust of that was going on the family at that time was totally different than I had ever seen previous he was really in areas really trying to gather supplies you know convert Volkswagen Beetle into dune buggies and other vehicles indeed in dune buggies he had incorporated the straight satans which is like a motorcycle gang out of pity me valley into our family you know and they provided guns and knives and and mechanical services to convert these vehicle from the dune buggies and it's just you know with like this frenetic energy to try though they weren't doing good and you know he was he I remember he hold hello my fingers and other people fingers over flames the candle is like too conditional to not feel pain and it was just in and I from the time I left the desert with Bobby I felt like kind of like a salmon swimming upstream but not on but I was going no I was going in the wrong direction his eyes rocks the trees everything was calling out to me that I'd made a mistake and when I got to the Gresham street which I didn't know anything about Gresham street because I thought we were going to go to Spahn ranch and Gresham street with you know like a mile or two from Spahn ranch in Canoga park and he was just furious with me I'm taking you back to your parents going to find your parents on taking back your parents and he did find them and he did take me back there and at that point I been with Charlie too long heard too many of the songs that's all I had going on in my head and I just felt again rejected a my parents were now my mom had not re married but you know she and my dad read definitely separated them you know she was with another man and they were like boarding parents for an alternative high school so they had all these other kids my same age basically living with them and I just I just felt crazy I mean I wanted to jump on the roof of the house I'm up on the roof of the house view out old Charley's talk you know about living in a garbage dump and all and I mean it was I just felt crazy I mean I really felt crazy your programs yeah I was and so I I went back to Charlie because but I sense that I felt comfortable but you know I mean I felt at in juxtaposition to to being in a like a more normal you know society whatever I just felt crazy and so I went back to Charlie and then he took me days Gary Hinman and I live with Gary Hinman for a week or so and and then I got Gary Hinman to take me back to the Spahn ranch and the family really didn't live there anymore I think I think when that was still.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on Nerd On! The Podcast

Nerd On! The Podcast

01:48 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on Nerd On! The Podcast

"Attention please be advised. The following episode contained spoilers. Don't say we didn't warn you. He took an attack out of something that was like pitch. We saw <music>. What's going on everybody? Welcome back back to nerd on the PODCAST. You didn't need but you deserve and we're all levels of NERD are welcome strew. Today we celebrate to to new momentous occasions. I guess what guys this YEP is. Our one hundredth episode one day was there okay on turns one hundred four hundred but also today we take a ride from Burbank to Coalinga to spahn ranch to the Hollywood hills and one of the most prolific times of Los Angeles history with Quentin Tarantino's ninth ninth film at once upon a time in Hollywood yeah he just confirmed recently that kill Bill One and two is one movie affairs one movie yeah I mean I love him at any marketed does the fifth maybe he didn't whatever go on anyways yeah. I'm Josh I'm Caitlyn. I'm cory. I'm Tom and <music>. I'm Ali and.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

News Radio 920 AM

04:48 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on News Radio 920 AM

"With this guy. John Douglas to John I'd love to fly into town. So we could do a podcast together and just sit without commercial interruption and just talk I'll be pretty soon become up amid next week. As a matter of fact, the up there. Okay. Well, yeah. Love to talk to you. So so John. I met one of the reporters one of the few people that have been allowed to really do interviews with Charles Manson, and he said he used some of the tactics that you had used and and he said that Charles Manson is. He said you end up liking him. And he said, you don't you know that you're being manipulated? He said, but he's so good at it. And he said it just kind of just eats at you. Because you you catch yourself going. I like this guy. Oh my gosh. It's Charles Manson did that ever happen to you with. He is a very charismatic individual. And when I went into the the with him once again had nothing notes or anything like that. But I memorize some of his sayings that he would say the George Spahn ranch when he would sit up on top of a boulder lecturing to his his followers the so-called Manson Manson family. But again, he's five to is really shocking. When I saw him the size him is. I was around about one twenty which is pretty pretty good, but he is a master manipulator. He's not some criminal mastermind as more of a criminal manipulate of whoever is going to be speaking to and and again when you're on a fact-finding mission. You let the guy the guy, you know, talk. He's too. He sat on top of a chair looking down at me. The big thing with Charles, though, was that he said, look he said you gotta give me something that before I go back into the yard. What are you talking about? I said. No, everyone knows you're here today. FBI Representative BI, you gotta give me something. I mean, what do you want? You. Can you some money got those glasses over the though sunglasses? Yeah. He's a nice Ray bans. I can't give you gotta give me the raise man. I gotta go back and tell them I rip you off. So I keep them are set a glasses that that I just got recently. And so you can go back in the yard and boast to everyone because they don't want to be perceived as has a snitch, but he's his interesting to interview because it's just that we may. And we did later on the other charismatic individuals in charge of spor leading groups like in Waco, Texas, or Jim Jones in Indiana. And you could see how he had this. He he spent most of his life in prison, and and he just learned how to use people manipulate people, but his. He wanted to be he really wanted to be an entertainer. He wanted to be in the beach boys and friends with. And that was that was his big big thing and the helter skelter business when you're dealing with a whole bunch of inadequate followers that were gravitating toward toward California. And he saw this the easy easy people now type of people, and he could he can shape the problem with that is that the these inadequate nobody's to become somebody. Well, you can lose control of them. And although he was preaching the Celtics skelter they took action they went out on on their own on the particularly the first night the second night when the lobbying was killed. He was with them. But said, hey, I gotta leave. I'm on parole. Stay here for the killings. I mean, what are you know, what a great guy, but it's just interesting very interesting type of people. But again, the bureau is not for this. And it was a lot of pressure, Glenn as particularly young person, you go for a task force and particularly in those early days and. You're talking about say the trailside killer in New York, and I'm telling the I'm telling these past is a good chance at the subject has some type of physical disability. I just came back on a case, and we're speech impediment. The killer may have a speech impediment. Is this David carpenter who had a speech impediment? It was able to Lincoln to the case. So hang hang on just a second. If I may hold you over and go a little longer this interview. I wanna talk to you about the things that we can learn in what's happening today by talking to Ted Glenn Beck. With John Douglas. The name.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on KTOK

KTOK

03:35 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on KTOK

"On thousand Katie. Okay. My guest tonight on ground zero. We're talking about musicians we're talking about LSD CIA infiltration of the music industry in the sixties seventies. And now today as well. You know, I want to go back to okay, we were talking about the hippie movement. We were talking about it being a diversion, or at least was trying to. Distract from everything at first, but then came out Mont, then came the Manson murders. I mean, the it was said that the spun ranch where the Manson family hung out. They were on a steady diet of LSD. And of course, a lot of Tazar distributed to the Hells Angels. When they went beserk started beating up people and stabbing people at Almonte with the Rolling Stones. Can you attribute all of that? To maybe a different dose was causing this type of psychosis. Well, I say LSD was cut with strychnine and still is chick nines rap poison. But a lot of those Hells Angels were hopped up one speed also so but the Spahn ranch was a was actually it was right next to a former nazione ranch. And so there's just so much evidence that that the Manson family were killed tray experiments, but. You know, they were they were acting in porn films. They were and they're also part of that law canyon scene where? Nother story takes too long the explain, but yeah, it's just there's. It a lot different drugs. Besides just acid us. You know, the experiment with you know, amongst the Hells Angels amongst. Yeah. The man's family at cetera. Yeah. And of course, the laurel canyon group as a fascinating story in and of itself. We had a show with doctor demento while ago, and he talked about his relationship with the band spirit, and he talked about Manson and his associated with the beach, boys. And it was amazing. It was amazing story to hear him talk about it. Yeah bet. So. Yeah. And you know, he didn't want to go into too much detail. But he did say that it was an interesting time to say the least to be be right there in the middle of it. And you know, that's one of the reasons why he's a music historian with who's right there in the middle of all of it. And he was witnessing all of it. And he said it turned out to be really ugly times for a lot of Rockstars. Some of the biggies like, Janice. Joplin Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison. But of course, we have Cass Elliot. We have several others that had passed away who was also involved with a lot of the the peace movement and moving towards. You know, anti-war messages and things of that nature. John pod with us tonight on ground zero. We'll be back with more if you'd like to call in and ask some questions of Johnson. I you may triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred that's triple eight six seven three thirty seven hundred such a risk rich history that we're delving into tonight. It, you know, kind of a post Grammy show, especially with the song of the year being this is America by childish Gambino, Donald Glover, which paints a pretty esoteric picture in his video of the violence and the entertainment distractions of how drugs and violence have infiltrated the African American community and music industry in general, triple eight six seven.

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"spahn ranch" Discussed on The Church of What's Happening Now

The Church of What's Happening Now

04:19 min | 2 years ago

"spahn ranch" Discussed on The Church of What's Happening Now

"Now, Liz, he was a cook. At the time at this split of a sandwich was the place called the internet. It's not like in and out burger arresters, nineteen reaction half the size of this place. Catch it three people could stand in the time and order sandwich. I understand that. Right. And we were talking when they were smoking joined the place. Yeah. Showed me the window Bundy escaped from crazy path he took. So now, I go back to New York. I get my problems. I though I start comedy, and I moved to Seattle then Seattle Bundy. Done some damage. He did some real damage. Yeah. And when dad up and see how somebody goes to behave. Like somebody who lived in the area goes Bundy live like three blocks mayor for like a month with a girl while known second. I went to your house when time you showed me where the Tate lobby on commercial up in Glendale wasn't now that's up in civil like Jesus Christ read, that's not the tayla Bianca. I don't think it's the other ones. It's like it's not the it's one of the murders. I don't remember what? Yeah. Yeah. She's christ. I read that book. I didn't think it was his neighborhood helter skelter out the scalp until these scary shit, some scary shit, you know, about creepy crawly. No. So that's that's what it's like some of our neighbors the time they've been there for they were very that. You would tell me when I went there at night wanted to do a podcast you will live with a different girl, then this is seven years ago. Yeah. Well, the neighbor said that all of a sudden they just like would notice these fucking dirty hippies. Wandering around up there. There you know, and it was the Manson family. They were like scoping it out. And they noticed it. You know, they were like, you know, it's not like they're going to they're going to blend in that area. He's a fucking the family man, these they've been drinking acid, you know, they've been drinking. I was d- up at Spahn ranch saying shit like manic like levitated school buses, and like, Jerry, you're that story go. Oh, yeah. That's one of the stories. They said it's like they like I think as their school bus. They were and got stuck in front of some rocks and Manson levitated it and fluid over the rocks and shit like they were high was Manson levitating school buses or were they just high on acid. I mean comes razor tells us fucking acid, but. You know that thing where they were like that guy wanted to kill himself. All it was fucking or something he was fucking one of the Manson girls. And like he like she shot him in the face. And he came inside of her died or something. I mean, these were like hardcore hardcore cultists like the man's family was like it makes any other fucking Colt. People were the Mets fan. I'm not sure it's a great question. Start start right here in California, dude. It's weird. Fucking Manson was like teetering on the brink of being a musician. He's hanging out with the beach, boys. One of the beach boys still is fucking song. You know that song? It's called like something is music is pretty good too. That's other thing. Mantas music is not that. It's not like you could see how like with just like you just made a left turn instead of a right turn and just met the right person. We'd be talking about him the way we talk about fucking young. Sure doodoo you saying how the beach boys that was one of the theories about the house that Rosemary's. No. So he killed the director of Rosemary's babies wife, pregnant wife, right? Pre who's the director not pre the. I'm so sad. I can't remember. It's one of my favorite movies. Rain varies baby. Yeah, right yet. But the theory is and forgive me for the Manson like trivia people out there from fucking butchering those. But essentially the theory is they ripped him off, man. They took one of his songs, and they did can you Google that do you mind, googling lizzano? There's twelve of them. So what do you want me to Google Google beach boys stole Manson song, though shit? Yeah. I mean, I wanna make them over the top..

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