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"space station partnership" Discussed on NASACast Audio
"Center or entity what's going to be in charge of that and ended up being Houston I was very happy about that because I was living in Houston but. these are some of the dynamics were going on at the time. Very respected Japanese partner who was In a lot of these discussions of the. Initial space. Station, partnership came up to me one day and he said Shop This is nineteen ninety early nineteen ninety-three. He said Shep You guys are doing your sixth redesign of the space station. You're changing the contract around you chopping pieces of the hardware off you're running short on money and you're. Changing the contract all around and you're moving headquarters to Houston. I don't think you're GONNA make it. And that was that was preseason guy and that was his expert opinion in the middle of Nineteen ninety-three and so I didn't say anything to him. I didn't want to be disrespectful but. I thought to myself I thought you know we've got. A real legacy of of how to do hard things at NASA. They've got a great team working on this and Just stand by we're going to show you that this can get done. Shed there seems to be just. Insurmountable odds against actually making this thing work. So how how did you navigate through all of these obstacles? What? How did you integrate with the international park partners with Russia to actually make the international? Space. Station. Become a thing. I don't think it's a simple answer. I think a lot of people. Own Parts of that story I I do think that One of things that it was really important was I stepped down from being a program manager 'cause I. The program manager has over splutter responsibilities to do A lot of the congressional liaison keep the funding for the program headed in the right direction. hand holding for a lot of. Higher Level forums, and I wanted to do the more focused on the technical work. So I was like what took on the role as a deputy program manager to do that? But That said. We started having pretty aggressive exchanges. Groups of people in Moscow talking to our Russian counterparts and having Russians in Houston and I think that was really the thing that made.
"space station partnership" Discussed on Houston We Have a Podcast
"Deal the partnership had been formed. about six years earlier by international agreements. With the Canadian Space Agency, the European space, agency and the there are other involvements with the. There is some involvement with the Italian aerospace industry. B- that group was already up and running and was initially very opposed to bring yet another partner end because in part. This would diminish everybody's ability for astronauts and research time on space electrical power, and you know all of those things that you've got to do to have a collaborative expedition or environment in orbit. So there was a lot of negativity Among the established partners to bring the Russians in. the Russians themselves. Were very difficult to deal with And that because they are or were bad people, but you have to look at space from a Russian standpoint. They. Launched the first satellite into space. And the first man to fly in space the first woman to fly in space, they did the first facebook they were the first to look at the back side of the moon. And there were quite a number of. Technological I the Russians claim and they To their from their point of view that they looked at the United States US Americans is coming in behind. their successes and trying to take some of the credit for it and I think there's some merit to that I. Mean we certainly. Approach doing space from from different directions. Technically but Russians are very proud. They've got a very strong legacy in the early days of. Humans in space and I. Think Initially, we did not the the Americans in particular. we did not respect that or appreciate that maybe as. As strongly, as we might assume, that was you know getting that getting behind that passed that was a big deal. In addition there several of the things that were happening one was that budget for the. Space Station it was going to be called at that time. was quite. Constrained. The design of freedom had to be changed. For a number of reasons it was too expensive. The assembly of the components had a lot of risk in it that we wanted to take out. We had Russian components that we had to. Integrate With this partnership that we had to manage and we had a complete. Restructuring of the space. Station. Program on the US side altogether, NASA had ridden. Four prime contracts to various companies. In the United States to carry out freedom. And this was in the process of being condensed to a single prime contract. some of the contractors were not going to. Maintain the work content that they had originally won in the previous contract they're unhappy about that. And in addition Space Station program was going to be headquartered at one particular place in the country, and there was a lot of. Arm Wrestling about where and which. Center or entity what's going to be in charge of that and ended up being Houston I was very happy about that because I was living in Houston but. these are some of the dynamics were going on at the time. Very. Respected Japanese, PARTNER WHO In a lot of these discussions of the. Initial Space Station partnership came up to me one day and he said Shop This is nineteen ninety, early nineteen, ninety-three. He said Shep You guys are doing your sixth redesign of the space. Station. You're changing the contract around you chopping pieces of the hardware off you're running short on money and you're. Changing the contract all around and you're moving headquarters to Houston. I don't think you're GONNA make it. And that was that was preseason guy and that was his expert opinion in the middle, of Nineteen ninety-three and so I didn't say anything to him I didn't want to be. Disrespectful but I thought to myself I. Thought you know we've got. A real legacy of of how to do hard things at NASA. They've got a great team working on this and Just stand by we're going to show you that this can get done. Shed there seems to be just Insurmountable odds against actually making this thing work. So how how did you navigate through all of these obstacles? What how did you integrate with the international park partners with Russia to actually make the International Space Station become a thing I don't think it's a simple answer I think a lot of people. Own Parts of that story I I do think that One of things that it was really important was I. stepped down from being a program manager because I. The program manager has over splutter responsibilities to do A lot of the congressional liaison keep the funding for the program headed in the right direction. hand holding for a lot of. Higher, level forums and I wanted to do the more focused on the technical work. So I was like what took on the role as a deputy program manager to do that. But. That said. We started having pretty aggressive exchanges. Groups of people in Moscow talking to our Russian counterparts and having Russians in Houston and I. think that was really the thing that made The International Space Station Program Go. The Russians. Came in. Pan. Certainly. Did things differently than what we did. But but in the end The design and how was implemented. Added a Lotta Capability to the station and I'm probably jumping ahead. We can talk about this later in the podcast. But nobody at the time realized that how important having? multiple countries, multiple launch assets that could. Support the station in orbit and had. Particularly, the the Columbia. Disaster we would not have a space station if the Russians were not able to fly crews and material up to the ISS and I I I don't think we specifically foresaw that in nineteen ninety-three. But the fact that many countries. The Europeans. The Japanese. And the Russians in particular could have an opportunity to launch to the station on their own. That was a big part of our design. So Oh Station has. Even as a program, it had a lot of moving parts it's hard to. Cover it all you know in a short discussion. Well, we can. We can zoom in on on hardware because I think one of the things you mentioned with some of the early years is we were doing a lot of studies on on designing what would be a space station, but never had any hardware to show for it so. During the space station there were that there was that development process of the initial hardware of the international space. Station. I know there's there's components like two. Those Aria was a joint effort How about some of those those early space station, hardware, designs, and processes. But I think you have to back up one step and think about his there a culture, a philosophy that says. not only what you design, but y you design it the way you do, and that was really the most interesting thing to me our. Previous freedom design. was dependent on. Some Hurley Assembly flights were we didn't have a lot of Cooling. Communications Electric Power Other. Capability and gradually the station build out in those utilities if you will. became more robust, but several of the aspects of this support. To keep the station alive. had. If you will allow technical.
"space station partnership" Discussed on Houston We Have a Podcast
"Space station freedom. And this was in the early in the middle of the eighties. And by Nineteen Ninety two. the administration's had changed and The problem was that NASA had spent almost eleven billion dollars on space station freedom. And it had taken Eight years in not one pound of flight hardware was to show for it, and so congress was really upset. With the Space Agency and was getting ready to cancel the program. So really ISS International Space Station Program. Was a big change that that pulled the iron out of the fire and reorganized things and? That's Cata Path that we started on twenty years ago and that's where we are today. Well. Let's talk about some of those original plans you mentioned space station freedom. There are a number of other space stations. That were actually flying at that time Mir included Let's take a dive into the shuttle program and the original plans for shuttle. As a as a vehicle to construct things like space stations. All NASA space shuttle was actually something the NASA promoting even before the end of. The Apollo Missions I think John Young was on the moon talking about. What a great thing, a space shuttle would be an encouraging. the politicians to support it. but one of the purposes of the shuttle was to be able to build large. In or orbit. So besides carrying astronauts space and doing experiments and ev as in robotics and whatnot. One of the main reasons why we needed a space shuttle was so we can build big stuff in orbit and He was kind of in competition with the Russians didn't know what the Russians were GonNa do they eventually built their own? space shuttle and flew one time. But that was the landscape and I think You know to me There was a lot of celebration and ceremony around the retiring the shuttles and the ones that got transported to the museums. But for me, that was really sad. Stories of days because this was the end of. at least United States astronauts. Flying into space and coming back in a vehicle that had wings on it that could land like an airplane I i. still think that's a tremendous capability and we've pretty much given that up. And and think about what it accomplished. You know even even before the International Space Station launched its first element we did have. Cooperation with this space station that you're talking about Mir, the Russian space station where we had. An opportunity to work together with. Russia, doing the shuttle Mir program and not only using the shuttle but also understanding the operations. I. Guess Behind Long Duration Spaceflight on. Mir. If you look back, even President Kennedy in the earliest days of. Our human spaceflight effort talked about. The political and diplomatic benefits of working with the Soviets on space. And Apollo Soyuz in nineteen, seventy five was a result of that and It took us a while after that another two decades to really get. close to the Russian Federation and work together on space station but. I think it's a very healthy thing for NASA for the country to be doing. We'll talk about those years I think around this time you were the international, space? Station Program Manager, you had a lot of oversight into you know this cooperation us and Russia to go from this idea of freedom International Space Station or space station freedom to this cooperative International Space Station, can you talk about some of those years? Well, my original. Assignment from. The national administrator was to be on A. Basically study team that would look at what is the? What what's the executability if you will the freedom program and if if it needed to look like something else what would that be? and. I had I was a member of about ten men team, and we studied that for about a month. And made recommendations. This was all Being driven by directives from the Clinton administration to figure out. What what was Nastase Future with the freedom program and and what were they going to do After the draft this study was over. Then I was the program manager basically handling several changes to what NASA was doing was. We were bringing the Russian Federation him to the International. Space Station Partnership, which is a big.
"space station partnership" Discussed on The Naked Scientists
"A giant leap for mankind with is iconic footage continues to inspire many with with hours and hours of O._J.. From mission like you've been hearing available to the public twelve men in total have walked on the moon with return missions remain until nineteen seventy-two now both national and private agencies want to return to the moon but it will rely Diane collaborations across the world. So when are we going back and we'll it involves humans or should we leave the work to robots is he spoke with James Carpenter who works on Human Andrew Robotic exploration at the European Space Agency so the intestinal space the station has shown us what is possible when the nation's of the world unite and come together to achieve incredible and impossible things and I think that the moon is the next place where we can do that where we is a species can go and learn what it means to go beyond earth and learn lessons that we can apply here on earth to to improve the situation here how people planning to return to the moon the United States earth NASA is preparing some called Ryan and Orion is a space cross which will carry humans the owned low-earth orbit where the space station is but we operate today and out into deep space for the first time since Apollo and the European space agencies very much involved in this program with providing something called the European European service module which is at the back of the crude part of that vehicle and it carries things like the propulsion systems of power systems and some life support systems and so that vehicle will go to something called the gateway. The gateway is a crew tended platform fool kind of a a space station comes spaceship or space port which sits in deep space in the vicinity of the moon and it's from here that humans will go down to the lunar surface and returned from the lunar surface for the first time and this as something which is being explored by a group of countries through the International Space Station partnership to work together to to achieve this..