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Ansley & Piedmont Park: Friday - Tuk Tuk Thai Food Loft

Dinner Tonight Atlanta

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Ansley & Piedmont Park: Friday - Tuk Tuk Thai Food Loft

"Welcome to dinner tonight. Atlanta I'm your host Susan Cooper and I'm so glad you're here. Let me ask you this. Have you ever tried to make plans to go out to dinner with friends? And everyone says they don't care where you go. Don't be that guy. Be The one who makes a plant? I'll help this week. Let's check out the Ansley in Piedmont Park area. It's Friday you're going to TUK TUK. Thai food loft at seventeen forty five peachtree street. This award. Winning Thai restaurant serves up Thai food as small. Thomas sowell plates as well as larger entrees that showcase gourmet tie street food. They've been named Best Thai restaurant by both local and national publications. This week's are brought to you by tree horns. Cider Tree Horn is a locally made craft hard cider available in cans and on draft all throughout Georgia check out their tasting room in Marietta or visit tree horns cider dot com to learn more. This is Susan Cooper from dinner tonight. Atlanta share this with your friends and let them know where to meet up tonight.

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TSL: Nevarez, Weintraub & Sowell

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

00:00 sec | 2 months ago

TSL: Nevarez, Weintraub & Sowell

"Crude. Oil is crude natural gas is pure. That's why Pennzoil's based. Oil is made from natural gas not crowed gives you unbeatable engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil based on sequence for aware test using SA Five W. Thirty. Tactful stories from the biggest names in the game. This is the sporting life on. ESPN radio and the ESPN APP apple now, here's Jeremy. Show? Welcome to another edition of the sporting life in the NFL there is the Rooney rule which is intended to increase hiring of minority coaches and others in professional football. No such rule exists in terms of hiring in division one athletics, which has an abysmal record when it comes to hiring people of color for positions as coaches and administrators, and so forth. I should say there was no such rule. Now, there is such a rule that is supposed to increase the hiring of people of Color in important positions in college sports in one conference. In particular the West Coast Conference, which established what it is calling the Russell rule, a hiring commitment named after Bill Russell who of course played at the University of San Francisco in the Nineteen Fifties winning the Ncaa Championship there and University of San Francisco is a member of the West Coast Conference it is a pleasure to be joined again on the sporting life by the commissioner of the WC Gloria Navarre's Gloria thank you for being with us. Thank you for having me. So Gloria. The Russell rule as I said, you're calling it where did this idea come from? We have an FBI equity diversity inclusion committee that had been established in two thousand and nineteen, and they had a package of initiatives coming through our. Governance system however. Following the murder of George Floyd, the stars allying for as far as timing because we just happened to have our annual governance meetings. The week after and as you know many many folks put out very heartfelt meaningful statements of support. But our presidents came together and they said, they really wanted something that promoted meaningful and lasting change, and that's where the idea of getting hiring commitment in our league began, and then it honestly was maybe a two two and a half months. Effort. To craft and adopt. Are Russell. How will the Russell rule change hiring? How will it make it? Officially, a part of the process that when you were seeking candidates for certain positions, you have to take into consideration You have to have finalists I believe under the rule who are from underrepresented communities, Herat, and this is now part of our WCTC handbook and constitution So it'll live on beyond all of us would take a super majority of the president's vote to to change it or to remove it not that anyone's asked about that but and it requires that for all full time. well, actually Athletic Director Athletic, Department senior staff head coaches, and full time assistant coaches. You have to have a member of a traditionally unrepresented community in the final candidate pool. So you know our hope is in addition to that, you know vending out some really strong candidate. It also opens the pipeline I mean there's so much opportunity from just being in the finalist candidate. Cool. Getting exposure to decision makers. Pressing yourself for how to interview just the repetition of being in those candidate pool the so helpful to focus fiery divisions speaking with Gloria, Navarro is she is the Commissioner of the West Coast Conference, which as you've been hearing instituting a new rule which reflects its commitment to hiring more diverse coaches administrators. and. When we think about the American University, the American higher education system in some ways we think of them as bastions progressivism but when it comes to sports, why is the record so abysmal when it comes to hiring of minorities? In sports departments as coaches. I wish I had an answer to that question. Our hope is this policy help. that process and you know sports hiring sometimes just happen at the worst time or happened very quickly. I. DO think search firms has helped diversify the process and become intentional attentional of out. final candidates pools, but you know up and down the ranks of Athletic Department. You know assistant coaches and some of the smaller sports or more of the Niche Sports. It just have. You know it happened. So quickly or maybe the budget or the national type search isn't conducted like it would be for a head coach of your. football or basketball program. So our hope is that this really brings intention to the process at all levels gathering with Gloria Navarro, she's the first lat next vision one commissioner. She is the Commissioner of the West Coast Conference instituting a bill russell rule reflecting its hiring commitment terms of getting more minorities hired as coaches and beyond just coaching as well. This this goes to administrative jobs as well. IS THAT RIGHT GLORIA? Correct. So it's All Athletic Department senior staff members. So, your senior associate athletic directors in some departments, they'd be associate athletic director defined by the Department as your Senior Management Team Glory. At this time of course, we'd be remiss if we didn't ask you So many of your schools are in California most them are actually on the west coast We've seen a resurgence we've seen spikes the coronavirus in California we've seen some conferences saying at this point that sports should not take place at all on campus this fall where does the WCTC stand now in terms of false sports and I, know you're not a football conference although two of your member schools do play football. So we we are all about false sports and trying to solve that dilemma right now you know we are legal adviser for national titles in basically all of our sports. So it's very important to us not to prematurely for foreclose that opportunity, but you know we're still looking for a way to safely conduct. Fall competition I mean there's still a lot more questions than answers. Schools are in the process of making determinations about general student populations whether they're coming back or going online. So you know we're still. the working through it. Looking for answers mode. We we don't yet have a green light. Idea that would allow us To safely all sports but again, we don't want to foreclose that opportunity because many of our athletes it's really important to in the reason, they pick WCTC schools survive the national titles, philosophically chlorine. How do you feel about athletes begun campus? If the general school population is not obviously in some ways, it would be safer because there are fewer people there. But if you're going to bring athletes onto campus, we talked about this last week on the show with Chris Hinton who's leading the parents alliance of football. Players in the country former NFL player. How do you feel about just athletes being around? Yeah you know don't topically I, feel good about that because now again, each athlete each person has to make their own individual value assessment i. mean you don't know who might have a history of higher risk than others you can't just assume that because they're all in the same age group in their Healthy Division One college athletes that they don't have something in their background or history that makes them a little bit more. Open or susceptible to Kobe. So the individual you know decision making the side in general I feel you know data has shown yesterday put out a study that the the mental stress on. All students but even more. So on student athletes of being in shelter in place away from their teams away from the campuses is increasing and as well as there's a large population of student athletes don't have. Access to perhaps proper nutrition division one training strong medical care, or even appropriate workout facilities and the data shows that the population that's more disadvantage are African American. Student athletes. So in some situations, coming back to the camp, provide those three major services and bubble of safety that is a little bit more controlled than some might have in their home environment. Glory Navarre's is the Commissioner of the West Coast Conference which is just instituted the Russell rule to sure that there are diverse finalists for all coaching and administrative jobs in the sports departments in its schools glory. It's a pleasure having you back here on the sporting life much joining us. Thank you so much for having me appreciate your work. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. In the years just before world. War Two alice marble was a marvel. She was a successful woman in tennis. She won five grand, slam singles titles. She won I think it's eighteen grand slam titles overall in her life was a subject of fascination for so many beyond sports fans a life that continues to be in the words of her biographer Robert Weintraub shrouded in mystery. He's the author of the new book the Divine Miss Marple Life of tennis fame and mystery, and it's a pleasure to welcome to the Sporting Life Weintraub Robert thank you for being with us. Thank you so much Jeremy I really appreciate being show for people who who were not around. To, experience the heights of her fame and her achievements. Alice marble. Yeah, she was unquestionably the greatest tennis players, female tennis player before the war and more than that. She was really a transformative figure in women's tennis. There was an Arab before she came around, which was mostly baseline play by women wearing cast length skirts and kind of very dainty in their approach Suzanne Lenglen Lawn exactly and Helen Wills Moody and then Came on put on a pair of shorts which was scandalous. Once you I did it and then everybody realized, Hey, why aren't we playing George that makes a Lotta sense and now it's certainly look very good. No shorts. became the public fascination beyond just play and you know she really revolutionized the sport with their power and speed mathematics style of play much like Martina Navratilova. Steffi Graf would later and you know if it wasn't for World War, two she certainly would have won a host more championships than just the eighteen that she did win and major titles, which of course, counts doubles and probably would be a much more remembered than she was as turned out but because of The war, and also because of a two year lapse where she suffered from tuberculosis and then came back to win the US nationals. Now, the US Open you know she really lost a sizable portion of her career and much the way you know lame or you know any of the other ballplayer figures that were familiar with and unlike. So many of the stars of the sport at that time, she was not born into privilege not even close. How did she become? So proficient at the game, which was a country club game almost exclusively then no question and then she did it by force of will mainly She was born into a not very well off family, and then when her father died at age seven they were particularly struck in poverty she live in San Francisco and. Learn the game the self taught at the Golden Gate Park courts, which were these weatherbeaten cement courts that really you know we're just there for public use not to engender future champions. But as you say, because she was say brought up under and we're in the game under such hardships that really became an advantage for her because of her. Powerful force of will married with her incredible talent. When it came time to take on these sort of privileged country club elite type players who you know the sport was suffused by those days she had the great advantage. She had certainly a mental advantage over most of them and incredible physical talent Mary to and made her virtually unstoppable and she was at A. P only really she stopped herself when she lost matches and you know is is really a through line for life, which was that she kept coming up against these massive travails off the court physically mentally emotionally and rebounding to overcome, and it's really something that came to admire more and more as I as I wrote the book and more better life. We're speaking with Robert Weintraub about his new book the Divine Miss Marple Life of tennis fame and mystery, and one of the most interesting things here, and it's more than a thing. It's a major component, of course, Dallas Marble story in and she wrote about this just before her death but her exploits. In World War Two and as her biographer, it's been something of a challenge I understand and you've written to confirm the things. She rating kind of reminds me of The Chuck Barris book the late Chuck Barris who wrote the book where he said he was a CIA agent but of course, they disavowed any knowledge It. It's not a similar situation with Alice marble. Yeah, you know if a writer this book, I had to insert myself sort of an amateur detective much more than twenty when it I wrote it because. So much of what she wrote about in this case, we're talking about saying that she was an ally age were to who sent on assignment to reconnect with a former lover who is a Swiss banker turned launderer Nazi Golden, ill-gotten booty and then wound up fleeing from him and shot in. The back by Russian double agent is just this incredible story that you know at the end of the day. I. Just enough of Padma flaws ability to be true. But most of the facts are either disapproval or not be able to be proven by the surviving record, which is unfortunate and you know I I had to put up my my Sherlock Holmes hat there your stalker and figure out what exactly was true. What wasn't true? What was maybe? Walk a thin line between you know sort of wanting to you know shine a light on this incredible woman in and give all her plaudits, their their proper do, and also you want to separate the fact from the fiction not just repeat what maybe embellished in her. Memoir, which is written very late in her life and and really part of sort of Here's what I did and I shouldn't be forgotten kind of and days with our remember she didn't make much money in her life and she kind of lived on the on the margins really for the last couple of decades of her life and she always liked to put on a show and give the reader or the fan what they want it, and I think that extended to her memoir and in many ways, it's so interesting though Robert, because here's someone who had a life of such remarkable achievement. And and who is part of this remarkable circle in the early golden age of the first golden age of Hollywood who knew everybody William. Randolph hearst down to Clark. Gable, we're up to Clark Gable. Characterize it. Why would she feel the need to embellish anything? It's you know one of the mysteries I tried to uncover and there several kind of underlying psychological reasons and I as I alluded to part of it was just her desire and determination to make her life. You know kind of something means something which she thought was worth something not necessarily the fame that she achieved on the court or you know being a friend of these incredibly famous people. At the end of the day she was, you know feted by all these great stars and and welcome in their homes but she had no money herself she couldn't even open a bank account so much for life. So in that extended to her. Later days when she was actually writing the memoir and figuring you know for all I accomplished maybe it's not really enough in my mind at least and It's maybe hard for us to look back on it that way and. sort of understand where she's coming from, but you know in her mind. She felt the need to really you know go that extra mile and to like I say, maybe self you extra books and to get people in to remember the name. Alice. Marble the way it should have been originally instead of you know the way it was when she wrote the book which was dimly forgotten even by that point now, of course, she's totally Dust Bin of history, and I hope to to pull her out and give her proper place. You know warts and all in for everything that she accomplished as you mentioned and hopefully speaking of selling books we sell some books as well. the new book about the remarkable life and career of one of the great figures in American sport is the divine Miss Marble, a life of tennis fame and mystery by Robert Weintraub Robert Thank you so much for joining us. It's been a great pleasure Jeremy. Thanks so much for having me. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. Major League. Baseball's been around for one hundred and fifty years. Twenty thousand men have played in the big leagues only one, the Superb Cleveland shortstop Ray, Chapman has died playing the game, his skull fractured by a fastball on August Sixteenth nineteen twenty at the Polo grounds and Upper Manhattan one hundred years ago next week the pitcher was calm as of the Yankees one of the best pitchers of his era the whole story is told in a book that was written more than thirty years ago by Mike Sowell the title of the book is the pitch that killed in Mr Sowell joins us now Mike thank you for being with us. Small pleasure. Glad to be on. Jeremy I look I know it's been a long time since you wrote that book and it's just one of many books that you've written baseball history books among them. But the anniversary as we said, is coming up for our audience for people who aren't familiar with the story sit the seed for who was Ray Chapman. Well, Ray Chapman was a great shortstop, probably the best shortstop in baseball. at the time had been playing about eight years in Cleveland. He was only twenty nine years old. he's still holds some major league record or at least one most sacrifice hits in a season. So he he was a great player passes plan game at the time very cheerful player of flashy fielder, very popular among not just his teammates but all of baseball you know even the opponents liked him. and. They were battling to win their first pennant in nineteen twenty. They never had a winning or championship team before. And the Indians played late in the season they had a or August, they had a crucial series. Against the Yankees New York. and. It was a team race, the Indians Yankees and defending champion Chicago White Sox You know who later would be tarnished by. The revelations of the scandal of the nineteen nineteen, world. Series. So it was a critical game and on the day of the beam the. Pitcher for the Yankees commes was. He one of the best pitchers in baseball at that time and he was standing man and these two guys had a history and they'd kind of they both came from poor backgrounds born the same year within fifty miles of each other. But. They were quite different lays was A. Very unpopular player even among his own team H. He and Babe Ruth especially did not get along. This was Babe Ruth's first season with the Yankees but they had been teammates with the red. SOX as well. Right Tha they come up with the red sox in fact, they came up on the same day shared. A, train ride up to new. York. I mean to boss. Guess they were going to New York but anyway they they came up together and They didn't clash in a ruthless a jovial outgoing pillow like a good time. Maze describes very dour kind of tight arse. Guy and he had a reputation for throwing hitters. He frequently lead the League and hit batsmen but He also was unique in that. He crew under head and he he had hurt his arm and the minor, league? So switched to submarine style pitching. But. Unlike most pitchers who threw in the submarine style or the under in style maze, we're still a power pitcher and Rachana. They'll James Great Baseball historian. Has said that maze was the only power pitcher among the Syrian pitchers? So, with this unusual deliver, he was a very tough for hitters. When they came up to face and. And this was a critical game may started for the Yankees Chatman was leading the Indians. and. They used to players you know from a common background, very diverse personalities, but you know they. They would leave both of the meal with tragic consequences. A one man lost his life and the other would forever be haunted by throwing the pitch that killed. Ray. Chapman. We're speaking with Mike Sowell whose book the pitch that killed documents what happened on August Sixteenth One thousand nine hundred twenty at the Polo grounds the only on field fatality in Major League baseball history. So it's an afternoon game. Obviously, there were no night games that point the Yankees are playing at the Polo Grounds Yankee Stadium would not open for another two seasons. What happened well, it had been raining. Rain early in the day and I corps of the game. But in the fourth inning. Chapman came up already mad at twice in the game. So he was the you know theater. The Indian tend to lead it was a close game. And the rain had stopped so there was. No rain happening. But on this particular pitch. When? I'm in for some reason, it came in inside is a little bit high and inside. And it's. Coming from an unusual angle you're coming from underground. And the Yankee catcher buddy rule said, he always had trouble with Carl, mazes pitches because he really couldn't tell always where they were going to say took. Unusual shoots. and. Turns. And Chapman liked to crowd the plate, but he rarely was hit by pitch in fact A baseball book came out the day with the how to play baseball and Chapman. We used as the ideal batting stance at the plate. But anyway for some reason, on this pitch, Chapman pros didn't move boats coming to his head. And it hit him with such force into the side of the head. You know pimple left side. That the ball, there was a loud crack and the ball actually. Rebounded out to the pitchers. Now we're Masefield it. And thinking it was a bun he turned and threw to first base where wally pip first baseman caught the ball got ready to throw it around the in tune. Look toward the plate and he saw that and were seeking to the ground and blood coming out of his head. And You know. Medical help immediately called to the scene. They used is on the Chapman's. had. To revive him so he didn't lose consciousness. And he which led all still here went to the clubhouse or the locker room, and then taken to the hospital and he. Went underwent surgery that night and he didn't survive. He died early the following morning four forty am on August seventeenth were speaking with Mike Sowell about the pitch that killed his book about the death of Ray Chapman in nineteen twenty the only on field fatality in Major League baseball history. What was the reaction in the world of baseball and beyond to the news that ray? Chapman this outstanding. Player twenty, nine years old one of the best in the game had died in the field of play had died as a result of of being hit by a pitch I should say. Well it was. Kind of interesting because several of the other baseball teams were off that day and some of the players were in that area. So they were quite a few players from opposing teams who were at the game and who witnessed this accident or this being. And then of course, the controversy switch to Carl mays when addition to the Greek over champion, there was quite a reaction against the maze and many of the players were calling for maize the banned from Baseball they were Christ- for him to be prosecuted for this. And This has not happened before to I battalion major. League history and they've had some Fatal beaning in the minor leagues very few. But. Only one of them, my knowledge resulted in the pitcher having to go to court to defend himself you know actually being charged with those the charges were dropped. But in this case, you know that the players were talking that boycotting maze. and. So it was. Quite an an uproar in of course, for Cleveland they've lost one of their best players they've lost their standing shortstop. So, there was concern about whether they could still remain independent race. And they fell back immediately. You know they kind of went into a slump. But Eventually the Chapman's backup on the team was lighting shortstop who? was pressed into the starting role he got hurt. So out of desperation, the Indians called up. A twenty year old minor leaguer named Joe. Josue. Who came in and had never been to a big city before never seen a major league game. Understandably quite. But to calm his nerves he decided that when he put on the Cleveland Uniform, he would be very chatting and reincarnated. And interestingly soon. The rest of the season sewer played exactly like Chapman he continued Ray Chapman's batting statistics and it's a good play in the field and led the Indians to the. World series which they defeated Brooklyn dodgers and. They became the world champions for the first time in history. Something other fall how you know the the talk of a boycott. Soon, died down because You know the American League president wasn't going to allow that. But at Johnson, the hard feelings against maze carried on for actually for the rest of this. We're speaking with Mike Sowell baseball writer and historian about his book the pitch that killed it was a hundred years ago next week that Ray Chapman died after being struck in the head. By a fastball thrown by the aforementioned chrome as in You'll Mike I was thinking about Chapman this week actually did commentary about it and I read some portions of your book Your where we saw Joe Kelley the dodgers throwing near Alex Bregman ball rocketing near him. A three Oh, fast ball We see. Pitches all the time. We don't know exactly. You know The level of intent with each specific pitch but of course, they're batting helmets now, but pitchers are throwing so much harder than even the great crawl maze through back. Then when you think about it and we've seen other players who've been hurt not fatally. So in the major leagues by Pitch Balls and in how dangerous it can be just wondering you know as someone you live at Oklahoma. Next state over from where the Astros were and they seem to be targets this year based on what happened in the world series or in the regular season in two thousand seventeen when you think about. PITCHER's throwing hitters wh what? What are your thoughts about it? Well obviously you know I think. I don't understand those pitchers doing that I. Think it's. It's not A. Good reflection on the character of pictures like Joe Kelley because. It's one thing to throw it a better with the intention to move him off the plate or to retaliate as they like say but to do that. You don't throw a by guys head and it seemed to me on the Joe Kelley thing. Coming in they were coming in high. So even though players have batting helmets today, there's always the possibility. You've got an unprotected area in your face it could get hit and we've seen that happen with tragic results Tony the Arrow. His career which pretty much ruined by being hit by Pitch Dickie thon suffered a gruesome injury. Great Astros infielder. Yeah. Well, and you know when you ask them about my reflection watching them throw at the Astros. I grew up in Houston. So. You know I want the Astros for the team from their inception is the CO forty five so That bothers me And and what happened in the Chatman case with as being Chatman, but it's really surprising. Not only did the players not wear helmets or any kind of protective headgear time. But it took almost thirty years before they started to a few players where them in the nineteen fifties you know finally became mandated to have. Headgear, but it was just social little wraparound. Helmets they wore in the fifties and into the sixties remember wearing those kid playing small. But The. The fact that took that long I it's always amazed me that. You know baseball could be that lacks and the players not opposed. To the consequences of being hit. By the ball and. Actually. I. Think. It's a miracle that ray chat and it was the only player in the major leagues to be hit and killed in a game Mike now that the one hundredth anniversary of the sad occasion. The sad event is upon us what. How do you think Ray Chapman should be remembered had you think his? He should be commemorated well I think first of all, he should be remembered about baseball fans and I'm glad to see US getting more recognition now because. We're not I research this book in the nineteen eighties. It was amazed at how quickly this was forgotten among baseball writers and people they've been nothing written about her very little written about it. very you know it kind of it happened. There were a lot of time a huge reaction at the time because of Scorpio heirachy, but then it becomes kind of overlooked. You didn't hear much about it it. Really not a big is really more like an Asterik in baseball history. But. I think Chapman should be remembered because he he was a he was a great player. Here's a hall of fame caliber player who had he continued playing he he would easily would have been in the hall of fame because he had a superior record to some other hall of fame shortstops and he just didn't get to complete his career. So you know I think in that regard. Carl mays also is a victim of that because. There's quite a you know the big controversy at the time was. was called as throwing. Chatman was he did he intended hit and As always claimed, he didn't. And how can anyone know what maze intention really was because he did throw An unusual ball he he dip so low when he would pitch. That on occasion is knuckles would scrape the rent the ground. So he's and he's still in hard ball is coming from the ground in his coming up toward the hitters toward home plate. And it's taking unusual turns the catcher muddy. Ruel said he never knew which way the ball is GonNa turn, and he doesn't know how he ever call one of amazes pitches. So I think both it's kind of ironic I think both men were victims of that pitch to sad story and a fascinating story. So well told by Mike Sowell in his book the pitch that killed which isn't just about that moment but about the season as well and baseball at that time in the immediate post World War One the era it happens to be as well the season that Babe Ruth changed the game forever belting fifty four home runs in his first season playing for the Yankees at that time were playing at the Polo grounds in Upper Manhattan Mike Thank you so much for joining us I appreciate your insights in and thank you for writing this book thirty years ago Are you working Jerry, thanks for having me on commission very quickly that The book still is in publication so I've been. Really happy with that stating publication, and now there is talk about. There's some interest in a movie or documentary on this. So the book actually has been optioned out and there is come aboard productions is is looking at it and they've got a producer lineup so. do you want more information on the? You know the possible movie go to come aboard productions DOT COM or You can go to summer game book SORTA The book. Kim Book also available in. Print edition will we should best of luck with the film Mike, South the author of the pitch that killed. Mike thank you so much. That was great. Thank you. Jeremy I really appreciate it. Thanks for having joined us. I'm Jeremy Shopping. This has been the sporting life on ESPN radio were on every Saturday and every Sunday morning at six eastern time.

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The birth of Man In Me organization

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Sometimes many things problems and situations come at us and we don't have the necessary tools to be across it and so There is fatherhood Fridays, but there's also a non-profit organization called demanding me. And today we're going to be speaking to a friend of mine that I met down here. When I relocated to Texas by the name of Isaac grow and he's going to be talking to us today on how the man and me got started the purpose of it home and why you should be a part of the man in me. Allow me to introduce I see growth. How you doing today, man. Good. Good. Good. Good morning. Thank you for life on the show, man. I always wanted to be on his show, but I get me on your show man. Thank you. Probably between my schedule or you'll schedule sometimes it just doesn't connect but you made it for season four and I'm so glad you give me the opportunity to interview you and yeah, man, we we doing it. Absolutely man. Thanks. I appreciate it. And so, you know, I'm just kind of going into your world a little bit. What's what is going on? Not just with the man and me but what's going on with you and your life a whole lot of different things. It's been it's been interesting in this covid-19 space, but for me personally, it's been a lot of self-awareness a lot of self-awareness of who I am. What do I really want? What what do I really want out of life? What do I want for my fam? What do I you know and I am I being intentional about those things that I want and am I moving forward to those goals that I want for myself and for my family and just being real about that cuz I think I had to be honest with myself. I said, I feel like even though I say, you know Wishful things and dream and you know, you say couraging worse for yourself, but then sometimes there's like that line where I feel like I'm lying to myself and I'm I'm like am I lying to myself and this is what other people think about like life and this is what you're supposed to say and this is what you're supposed to do and say, you know, this is how I'm like, what do you want as it and that's where I'm faced with today is like asking myself every day. Like what do you want? Do you want this? Do you want that? Do you want some peach cobbler dead? They want you know, you know, you know, do you really want to give you all you know, you want peace, Do you want apps, you know, I gotta make this, you know, this these decisions about you know on a surface level but there's a deeper levels of that but that's where I've been asked these days man. That's where I'm in that. So it's been very enriching for me and in this journey of learning who I am and and purpose so walk-in. I mean, I think if it's been enriching for you it's been enriching for all of us, especially in twenty-twenty when Society seems like it has flipped upside down and whatever can be shaken will be second. And so it's no longer wistful thinking you have to draw the line in the sand and say either I'm going to make a decision to do it. I'm gonna make a decision not to do it but to just be wishful thinking or just planning. There's no more. There's no more time to do that. And so, you know, you have cultivated this organization this nonprofit called the man in me. And so let's kind of go down that journey of the early stages of men and me and maybe even your childhood and what how you were inspired to cross bars demanding. That's good. That's a good question. Well, my upbringing was basically in the single parent household month and So within that my father was was out doing his thing and my mother was a substance abuser shall I say so she was on drugs and and majority of my life and she basically kind of say kind of She made sure that she made my dad pay in the sense of withholding his kids away from him to to punish him and whatever way and then through that because she was on drugs and he she knew that he would take the kids away from her. He she would keep running from Sydney City trying to like skate, but then my dad still have to pay child support, right? So there's still can see these kids are so I'm I'm a I'm a product of what where we deal with what today is her birthday mad at me and and I didn't know all this until you know, 2009 with some of the stuff. Hit me. As far as what to do in this initiative or sauce a call in a sense of purpose a comes it comes into fruition and off and so from that all those different things from my past and my childhood and being bullied rejected and all that good stuff kind of burst into some certain things as as a child being the oldest off of my other two siblings 2009. I got laid off I had I was recently I was going through a divorce at that time. So Not only was it was a mission and all that good stuff and I'm going through a divorce. I'm over here looking like what do I need to do with my life? And so when things are Stripped Away From Home? You were like set here looking at yourself naked and I had to take a real real look at like who am I? What am I doing? And I was talking to a friend who had sons and one of the sons was upset because the father did not call him on his birthday and usually calls on his birthday. You know, that's one of the only times you get to see them I do your Christmas and your birthday's and certain things of that nature, right and he didn't call, you know, and it's not like he couldn't see him but whatever reason he just wasn't that involved father and you could see the void and the like, why don't you love me? Why don't you love me? Why don't you accept me back, you know, there's like all these different questions right right goes in your mind as like you're not here. So I assume that you don't want me because if you if you love me, then you would demonstrate love to me right and wrong. And so imagine that and I was just like somebody has why why doesn't the father want to be with this child? What is the real root of reason? Why does he not want to be there? I said, can you see that? This is looks just like, you know, just like you, you know, what are the fears are afeared of view them becomes like you what is it? What is really going on with you that you have a miracle baby right here you have we're all these different millions of sperm and all of a sudden you got this one child that made it. Into this world and not be there. You know and I'm and I can see that void in that hole in his heart and I was like man somebody has to do something about this. You know, somebody has to like help off. I'm like, is there anybody helping? Is there anybody doing anything with this do we realize that we are creating like this environment or or you know young young boys and and girls are raising getting raised up without their father present and involved in their life teaching them life skills is affecting our off our communities and and I guess it's like hey, I took on that initiative I took out here boys and say like look why not you Yeah, and go ahead and I mean your story your upbringing your pain is often times work creates purpose. And so, you know, your initiatives was through seeing the lack of what's in that boy's eyes of why his dad didn't call him on his birthday the lack of what you went through as a child and sharing those stories is what created the man and meet. Would you agree? Yeah. Oh definitely. Absolutely when you realize that you know what that feels like, I didn't know what that really felt like until that moment like fully like, that's me off. So that's me, you know, so also had anger towards my mother but then I had this whole with my father so I had unforgiveness with my mother-in-law and there's whole of of my father not being present and I even though I knew you wanted to be there sometime felt like he could have fought a little harder to be there, but I understand now looking dog. From being in this type of work and providing fatherhood Services. Is that some time to do that? The father ain't got no choice but to just keep following up the court and keep doing this and even though you're doing the right things she can just keep doing whenever she want to do and that's just kind of unfair the court system in this isn't you know in this world kind of it's just this is unfair life. Yeah. It's definitely slighted toward men women. Yeah and and getting custody of the kids. And so, you know, if you if you're not grounded as a father and you're not strong in your roll then it's like what are you going to do? You know what I mean? What are you going to do? Because they're looking at you as the provider and it's just like they're not seeing anything else beyond the provider. And so if you can't provide in the home where you're going to provide it through child support and so talk about How did the man that beat first get started? So when we got started I was in to the vision came in 2009. So it took about a couple of years to kind of like after that. I just like going through my my little inner workings and just trying to work out getting a job and get on my feet. You know, I'll be anybody but I'm not you know on my life. So I started studying and started realizing what I could do is start learning about over this course of those years and we lost in 2012. And when we launched a 2012 we just we just set up some chairs man. We just simplified it, you know, just since it's simplified and just like look I just want to do something. I don't have much money, but I think it's important. So we're going to put this flower out. We're a sub some tears got a space and let's just talk and that was pretty much the beginning of it and it's dead. It was just just to help men in general right because we're helping him father's but fathers are men. And so we can do what the man in me, you know, the rest will father, you know, you know follow. Yeah, so, you know as far as you being a father or you being a husband a friend but like the man in me dealing with me is the biggest inner me like that's going on so long. So yeah, and that's we we launched it and then we've been going on from now going on nine years and we've been able to do a lot of amazing things and stuff. That's awesome, man. That that it that is awesome. What is the purpose of the management on the purpose of the create awareness around the importance of fathers being actively involved and engaged in the in the lives of their children and family, so we educate strengthen and support our men and fathers cultivating Healthy Families off cultivate cultivating that that Unity that we want in in our fans. So, you know, if we have healthy men that are empowered to to to really focus and cultivate their their family their healthy family. And so that's what we gotta focus on primarily. That's great man. And because I mean we all need support and we all as men want to feel like we're in a space where we feel comfortable, you know, a lot of times there. There's all kind of different things that are catered to age. But a lot of times you can feel as a man lying. All my wife is making me go to this all this that they're not getting real or we're not being transparent or just does not relate to my walk as a husband father or even man what what kind of separates the man in me from other organizations or other things that are going on in in different cities or states. That's a good question. What separates from other organizations I realized that most of the other programs are boiled chicken not no disrespect boiled chicken and we use that analogy right off. I don't know where you go you go with us, like look. Well if you ever understand about boiled chicken, most people don't boiled chicken but its nourishment if you need it right off. No food, but there's no seasoning usually in bold season. If not, if you put seasoning on it, it's not it's it's usually like falls off. Right so it's not like unless you put like a bunch of seasons change in it. You making like a stew or something like that, but it's like its nourishment is food, but then there's no sauce on it. There's no seasoning on it. And so that's guy. That's that's where I was kind of good. That's like it's like no disrespect to the programs that that are out there is just you know, when we come to like dealing with root issues. There's like a very surface-level that that kind of choice of goals with that in service providing and so usually people they work their money through Friday and then they leave once they leave they leave that at home right or at work or whatever and so they don't How you say it's like it's not in as invested into the men as I woke. I would say in my opinion. I've seen a lot of people they're more like hey follow the system do this do it. Right and then we're going to see because this is what the data says, you know, they're more by-the-book. And so I wanted to use the book but Thursday and I wanted to add more things into you know, because there's a lot more that's into this than just doing this to just you know, talking to him and just you know, just doing the job. Well, here's your class you go to school, you know, another class another program. And so we wanted to more creative more like a Brotherhood and and and having that relationship aspect and that connection with other men and having that male to male pier mentorship. And so so that's what I would say is just it's it's different in that way because we are really trying to log Cultivate ourselves and we're able to have that say space where we can be ourselves and we can we can open up and nobody judgment, you know, and I come from home, you know raised in in the church and my grandfather be in the pasture and all this good stuff. And so from that fate aspect you use me like these men's Ministries. It's it's not as often open and transparent as I was as I would like for it to be and so I've never really got anything from that but we can pray and so I wanted to see like what else is there to be able to do how do we really build this and I was like, I didn't feel any connectivity with any of the guys even though we were connected but it wasn't that connection. But you know, it was a bad connection is like, oh I see you on Sunday, right, you know what, you know, so go ahead and that was one thing I noticed early on, you know in me relocating the Texas, Georgia. And you know coming to the man and me barbecue is that people were really genuinely wanting to get to know me like only person I knew at the time with Cory. I didn't know you I didn't know Mark is I didn't know Josh but I'm there and and mind you I'm there and I don't even feel good. Like I had like an upset stomach with just a few days ago. So I was you know, really pushing myself to come and it was just it just felt so warming like people like hey talk to this person for the box has hey get a plane and I'm just like wow like, you know, and I believe what you're saying is definitely key is that relationships mean everything without the relationship is just in a nation, right? But with a relationship it's his transformation. I'm going to drop the mic right there. Let's yeah, they go ahead. That's good. That's good. Good. You dropped the bike. That's good. That's good. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's that's that's what it's all about man and Thursday, I believe that what we are doing is is different and it's impacting lives and it's changing lives this way. So there's still the the next book type stuff that we do but but there's there's more there's more salsa to it, you know, there's more seasoning that I would say. So so so talk about some of the services that we do offer home or you know things that go on with inside Amanda me if you don't mind. Okay, so we we have our monthly for Saturday's men talk usually before covid-19 just sit down have lunch or breakfast depends on how it is. And then we just talked about certain topics or certain subject that we're trying to basically be better at home. Sharpen our skills on a more information on right and then so we do we do that and then we do have a our family cooker that you mentioned earlier that we do to be able to engage, um Fathers and Families to come out and enjoy a nice time with each other and have strong man competitions and face painting and off-course family obstacle courses where they could be able to win trophies for their family as a family unit. And so we are really enjoy that the cookouts. We also have our mastering manhood conference that we use every year which we weren't able to do it this year. But we we doing for past what four years and that's too Support these men for personal and professional growth and development. And so we talked about array of different topics. There'd be from business entrepreneurship wage a mental health fathering with a busy busy schedule, you know, a lot of self-awareness anger. I just made you know, I I did one on still angry anger management one. So it's just a lot of different topics and whatever the guys want to talk about and that's from ages sixteen all she got June just means of high school they get bussed in as well as We're retired. So it's a beautiful wider range of people that come and we have certain topics. Like one of my favorite ones called The Art of the comeback was a manhood panel that we talked about and that was like amazing to hear people from different walks of life still be successful still through All Odds still be successful in their mind set on that and how to move forward and press through life wasn't very inspiring. So we do that every three years. Well, we also have our daddy-daughter haircare day off that we do so we do if it's like dying dark hair care day having two dads come out and be able to with their daughters and be able to learn how to style and really work around their daughter's hair and get comfortable and confident on how to navigate their daughter's hair cuz usually if moms their mom usually does it but, you know, just with Dad and you're like, what about Thursday? This year, you know, it's not my air and so now you got Dad's we're coming out and we've been doing this we try to do at least two a year. So we did our two for the and let me just say I was a part of one of them and I mean that being a part of father daughter hair day was was truly amazing. Like I only have one here under my bill will be sure if her mom is not there that one hairstyle going on her head and they just gave me so much confidence with like one beliefs. That's good. That's good. That's what we wanted. That was the goal. That was the goal. You know, typically you see that dad's just not involved. Big, you know, it's something that the mother, you know does or has been done based off past history. We know like mother mom used to stay home Dad work, right? So, you know my music handle the kids that just works and then mom cooks and whatever this whole traditional stuff would be and that usually doesn't know anything about that but you know to be involved but like I know how to do this because just in case, you know, God forbid, you know mother is not there for whatever reason which passed away or sake or whatever and then able to walk do the daughter's hair who's going to do it and if this and if you if this is your child, can you do this? So so definitely me I'm glad that you said you got more confidence on how to how to work your daughter's hair. Really? I think that's what if if you don't mind me saying I think that's another thing that separates the men and me from birth. There, you know fatherhood and manhood organizations is that you are or the organization is breaking down social norms, you know, it's not just enough to be a provider. It's not just enough to have a job. It's not just enough to be a protector but really breaking down these social norms and saying hey, it's okay. If you're doing your your daughter's hair. Hey, it's okay, if your teacher your daughter or your son how to pray or you know being at And that's what makes us as men more humid, right instead of kind of looking like we're just property. You know, we're just here to work make baby. Fill me right? It's so in this season man, what what are some of the many challenges fathers are facing in 2021 of the the challenges bath doubt seeing is basically the the the virtual learning stuff right now. Yeah, so but virtual learning they're like, I'm trying to work while trying to trying to make sure the child stays focused and I think that's causing a little bit more of a risk than like and like, how do I move in this area? How do I move in this space where? Like this is we've never been in a pandemic before know and have technology at a certain degree. We're Young where the We have to literally be on this device for four to six hours out of the day. And this is not normal and we are trying to work wage and you got the baby's crying in the background. You got parents that are you know, telling the selling the answers to the kids. The kids are the kids really learn it. So I think that it for me it just been frustrating trying to like to know that you want to have your kids have a great experience in their childhood and you want them to go outside and play on the playground. I can't take my wage, you know dog is out there to play on the playground that bothers me. So I'm like there's certain things that are frustrating. It's like I can't do the things that I want to do with my children so that can kind of becomes like a frustrating thing also being unemployed if they lost their job then they don't really have the funds to be able to do some of the things anyway, but it's definitely forcing job. To be able to be more creative about the things that we want to do and how to how to educate and develop our kids. The other thing has been visitation on a different side off mother's majority are Do not want the dash to see the children. So that's where it's becoming a big issue got nowhere in covet I'm like what you can just stop your home, you know, just be like where he's you know, he or she's here Charles here with me, but we're in a pandemic. You just can't seem your child for six months. Right? And that's where it's at and it's like you can't just Not let me see my child, you know, like right right. Right, right. You just can't do that as like I know that we understand the situations. I understand. If not to take them in certain places or whatever the case may be but like you to literally just withhold visitation from my child like okay, that's a big deal. So that's the biggest thing right now by farmer is a lot of angry dad's a lot of angry dads that can't see their children and they are paying child support and you're like, I want to see my baby and you're not missing my baby because I get it but still I'm the father. I need to see my child. And so that's where it's at. So that that's one of the the biggest things that page is pretty much today that's gone on. I mean that you know me being married. I'm unaware of that but that is very interesting that a lot of fathers are facing not being able to see them child because of the pandemic because it almost poses a question for me is like why is it the mother not trusting the father and afraid that he might catch cold. And because she doesn't know his whereabouts like, you know, what what is it about that pandemic that is like, nope. You can't see him because if you see him, then you might catch something wrong, you know, and I'll be I don't know if I even have the answer to that question. Now, I would say that, you know, even for married people off, you know, if you're in a relationship it kind of has been this place where because of covet it is brought a lot of self-awareness. It's kind of stuff that was talking about earlier it down. Definitely has has let you see that your job is not promised, right? That's your job is not promised. And if you do not have a a multiple like multiple streams of income or another streaming income. And this was your only provider and I had to think about that cuz this was the guy was like only had one stream to provide for my family home and when that stream cut off I could not provide for my family and that's the reality of it. And usually I say what typically back in the old day where you know, you had a plan that you were a factory, you know factories going good. You work in the U 27 years thirty some years you retire whatever the case may be but and and you can probably be have a stable job of course ups and downs to it, but it's it's like it's not what it is now because of this like literally restaurants that you've got in businesses that you thought that's been there forever like Louis, Will be there forever, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you thinking like places you like hold up. You mean they shut down that you say shut down this and you're like no it's a reality you like things can happen in Iraq. It should some of us because we've we've been focusing our work and realize our position can be replaced or it will it will be non-existent. It would be non-existent life. So now we're putting us in a position like, what about our plans? What about what about what about our purpose? What about our plans for our family that we we want to accomplish and and get done and if I'm only focusing on this page, this ain't going to get me there. You know. I said, you know, if I'm saying they could get me there because it's just not I think that's the reality in that self-awareness piece where like I'm more tired almost took my kids to school most students to college. I'm going to send him to private school. I was looking at private schools the other day $18,000 a year, you know, so like there's something that you really want. Are you really doing? Is this what you really want for your family? Like what do you really want? And so I think that's been a a deal with even you know, why it's like what we really want for our family, but it's pressure on the the men always far as in my household. I know for those of you who are listening. Maybe this would be for you but as as a leader and as the The Sole Provider of my household, my wife is looking dog. me to leave and if and if and I need to show in the past that Vision upon what we're going to do and how we're going to do it and strategizes but it kind of hit us like bro. What's your what's your life? You know, hey, you know, you ain't got no job and what's your plan and it's right all on you and he's just like right you'd have no game plan. Were you thinking about them before that? You maybe could have took a little gig or create a different thing where you can get a CDL and work or do whatever have some type of flow coming in that making sure that your family is taken care of and those things aren't taking care of their just assuming case. You got a nice savings. You got butt load of savings and you like man, I'm good the next shoe then more power to you. But for some of us we even have a $200,000 saved up in our in our bank account. Like that's you know, we don't have that if you do that's a blessing that's really a blessed so but yeah. I would say that and I mean, you know in your in what you just said, I'm I'm hearing a few things. I'm hearing. We as father's we as men we as husband's dog e as young man, we gotta be flexible in this time before so pigeon-holed to one way of life. This is how it should be and when things that happen that are not in our control it'll eat you jacked up and so you have to learn how to be flexible and life and you have to learn how to have a vision even when nothing's happening because right you just never know you just never know. You just never know what's going to pan out and you have to know, you know, I'm reminded of a Serenity Prayer song help me to understand the things that I can control and the things that I can't control and know the difference between the two and and this pandemic is definitely dead. Something that you can't control but what you can control is having Vision have an admission being flexible, you know, God bringing your family in closer and this pandemic. I had a recent episode while I talked about what has covid-19 taught me and it's definitely taught me how to get my priorities in order that family has to be the top of the key and you have to be at the top of the key with it, you know, and so man. I got I may have one or two more questions for you. What what are some of the future classes or events that demanded meal be providing in this fourth quarter of 2020. So we are starting a book study starting on October. I want to say third. I believe we're going to home. Do a book study is going to be on Monday first and third Mondays and we're going to do a book study on two different books. One is Dave Ramsey as far as the complete guide of money and kind of that was some of the guys is like, how do I get my budget in order so I can do more things with my money and plan better because covid-19 Lee shook us up a little bit. Right? So we were probably doing things eating out doing all the different things, splurging a little bit now. It's like hey, I need to focus and get these things ironed out and I will be doing a book study for that also doing a another book. There's two books that are that we're studying in division of the anointed self-congratulation as a basis for social policy by Thomas Sowell. So we will be doing that and breaking that down as well and we have facilitators. That would be over that is October 3rd off. Yeah, October 3rd. I think it's October 3rd starting on that Monday and if it might not be October 3rd right now, but if you want to be a part of it, how could they do that? They can definitely go to the website demanded me. Org and then you can join our email list and we'll be able to get in contact with you there and then took actual put in there. Hey, I'm interested in the book study and then we'll sign you up for our text a massive text that we send out and make sure that you're up to date on all the different package that we got going on. Okay, anything else you got going on for the fourth quarter you talked about the two books studies or book clubs anything else? There are some I think that's pretty much it. I do have a film that I'm filming as well another documentary, but that's pretty much that's pretty much it for the Year. This might say you said you got a second film, which means you had a first one talk about the first one. So the the first film is men sharing the stories from Boyhood the minimum wage. The fatherhood and how their stories the absence of their father not being in their how to impact them. And so we wanted to to share their stories and their light on the importance of a father that has been in their life about manhood and and so it's been great. Just kind of that film we've we've sort of been able to be a blessed to be selected in three film festivals and so really excited about that for this year when we submitted and it's been taken off a lot of amazing things. And so what we we lost at Alamo Drafthouse is a nice theater that we have we've we've done it in different colleges and whatnot and projects them into churches and all different areas. And so we're really excited about the film and so are the second one is women sharing their stories and the wage Portions of a father has been in in their life. So we're originally what we've always been focused on men and fathers and something kind of stirred my mom part of because there was another side of it that I really wanted to see and you know, I was like, you know what we have to get the woman's perspective and and we have to get the woman's perspective and I was like, let's dive on in and so now we're on our third week shooting already and so really excited about this project. I probably am excited about this project is the first project so, oh, okay. I didn't think that would that would be I guess cuz I've always been focused on on on many fathers and now dealing with the women I'm like really pumped Choice. I'm really excited. I'm like energized and there's a whole different Outlook that I I did not know and I have been learning so much. I've been learning so long Much about me and about these wonderful these wonderful women that are that that they're involved in this project. So I'm just really excited about this project. Like it's really serious to me wage. So yeah, I mean, that's great man. And you know, you know, I'm just glad to be a part of the man and me and whatever capacity that's in Iraq and just just seeing it Grow from even the time that I've got involved until now and so what as we're wrapping it up. What is one or two things. You want to leave with the viewers out here. How about the man in me organization about the man in me, but about this interview how about this interview with all the interviews being great man. It's definitely been a pleasure being able to speak and thank you for having me on the platform. This is this is this is what we do. We enjoy and June. Helping men and fathers be better men be better fathers. And so if if that's you and you want to make sure that like you want to be better and you want to strive for something more and you know, there's something more that you could possibly be. 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From The Archive - Ottessa Moshfegh's My Year of Rest and Relaxation

Little Atoms

29:05 min | 1 year ago

From The Archive - Ottessa Moshfegh's My Year of Rest and Relaxation

"The thanks for listening to this podcast. We're calling on your help to make your listening experience the best imaginable. All you need to do is take a short survey. Visit a cast dot com slash research. That's a C A S T dot com slash research. Your opinion matters. This is little atoms. A radio show about ideas and coacher with me nail. Denny. Sweet. Fake returns to the shy to talk about this novel my year of restaurant, relax. Fake is a fiction writer from Boston. She was awarded the Clinton price. The historian the Paris review and grunted a creative writing fellowship from the National Endowment for the arts. A first book the novella Mickley was recently published by vintage, and you may recall talking about that in the Vella as well as has short story collection homesick from another world on a previous Latins, another lie, lean was awarded the twenty sixteen pen Hemingway award and was shortlisted for the man Booker prize tests latest novel is my year of rest of Milic sation, which we're gonna talk about today. A welcome back to let him be that. How would you describe this book? It's an awful, it is it's about a woman in her mid twenties living in Manhattan on the upper east side Manhattan and the year two thousand and the turn of the millennium. She comes from a rather privileged background. She is recently orphaned has a pretty. Meaningless job of a pretty pretentious art gallery in Chelsea and is altogether. Pretty dissatisfied in disappointed by reality as she sees it. She makes this decision to go into what she calls hibernation for a year with the thought that if she could only sleep for long enough, her body her mind, and every Sowell that she's composed of would have enough time to regenerate to the point that it would have forgotten all of the past difficulties pain and trauma that that had had stored and that she would eventually wake up a new person rejuvenated renewed with a different perspective. And even maybe the world would seem different to her to that reality itself may have shifted renewed as important because she takes this regime of of medication, and this would be quite easy to think of as a book of someone suicidal. But then that's not really the point. Is about REBA. Yeah. Yeah. In terms of took it about the time period that says you said it set in two thousand so where did the idea for the come from? Well, the idea for the book came from a desire to write a novel in similar tradition. As my short stories, I wanted to write a novel that was a development of the style writing that I had developed in the collection, and this character is not unlike I mean in first few scenes that we see her is not unlike character phone of my stories just that the character to gave birth to this premise, which required a novel to right? I did set out to write the novel. I didn't totally know what I was getting into and I began, and it was very difficult actually to resolve. I did not realize that I was setting myself up quite a challenge, which is how do you write? A novel about someone who sleeps. The answer is safe gift awake them up occasionally and more the time period, then why two thousand it was setting. You know, in retrospect, I can come up with lots of reasons, but at the time, it was more of a real sation than a decision to set the book in the year two thousand in a lot of the book was sort of dictated through the narrative to me by the character and her judgements assessments of the art world in the period. And in the way that she was describing New York City identified as not being contemporary Manhattan at all. But being pre-nine eleven New York. The culture was different. There was still sense of grit in glamour that had the sort of synergy. There is a sense of. Okay. Nece in some of the people. There was you know, I don't want to call it the calm before the storm because it wasn't exactly come per se was like there was a sense of here. We are. This is the way things are and were so certain of it that there's even room for absurdity. This was also the end of history guy's face red now. Yeah, it was the end of millennialism in also the beginning of a new one there. There was a lot of people were in a good financial position, including this protagonist riding the wave of the financial boom of the nineties of the country did feel different than than what happens subsequently. Yeah. As you mentioned, this is fundamentally story about privilege. She's obviously financially secure enough to be able to do this thing. Which is this project is to just decide to sleep for a year. Well, not fought onto worries. We'll be taking care of. Obviously privileges a conversation of of now, you know, this is this book seem very current because this is the whole political thing at the moment. I dare of privilege. It's interesting what gets projected onto a project, you know. Because at the time, I didn't think all I would like to write a book about privilege at the time. I was like, well, I have this premise now. How would it be possible that someone could take a year off in sleep? Well, she better have some independent wealth. You know, a came from it from the other side, I came at it from the other side rather than want to write a book about privilege. What's the most privileged thing? You could do it was really here's somebody with the next essential in emotional problem. If she tries to solve it this way, I'm gonna have to account for it. So therefore, she needs to have money. She's sorry. I mean, she's a really compelling character. I mean, these fundamentally unsympathetic, and that's something you throughout your writing, these brilliant, but troubled difficult characters. You not on Twitter yourself. But you know, I seem to see more often than not nowadays people seem to really struggle with the very concept that you can have an unsympathetic character. Have you come across that? I also think the the whole thing about her being unlikable just a conversation. That's being had like individuals. Don't come up to me and say, oh, she's so unlikeable. I mean, if you don't like her, that's fine. But I think it's it's more of a popular conversation topic than it is. I think a real experience of the book. I mean, I mean, I don't really know. I I'm like, honestly this whole likability thing. Like, I don't like likable characters are boring. There's nothing to like about them. They're just blank do goody two shoes. People. What's interesting about that? I mean, this woman has opinions. She's complicated. She contradicts herself. Sometimes she seems to me to be both more human indus- more relatable than somebody who. Like some I don't know very, well, polished, civilized, whatever. And I don't understand why people want to dislike her so much as it just that like we're trained to dislike people with privilege because that's what's politically correct right now. Or is it that they feel judged by her don't take it. So personally is it when she saw to me judging the paper in the books, we'll get to relationship with supposedly best friend Raver laying around the you know, the way that she describes supposedly best friend throughout the book is is a marketable she well, revise unlikable. So is everybody else? I mean, I don't know. I don't I mean this thing like what you would like what do you? We can point out like yes, she's critical. But like what else? Are you supposed to say about somebody the whole point is that it's? It's a it's a first person point of view somebody who's deciding to opt out of life. So of course, she's going to have criticisms of all the things that come in interrupt char-, you mentioned the show story collection. And how this story is somehow come out of soda extension of collection. But I was also struck by McClay, which is completely different story different time period. But it's a first person the ration- by somebody who is basically throughout the book onto the influence of alcohol, and this is a story about someone who's under the influence of various different drugs. I wanted to talk about how you how you do that how you create these characters and how you know, you have them described situation. What's going on while under the influence just tried to enter their realm? Just put my concentrate in meditate on who they are where they are. And what the situation is. And listened to whatever thoughts might be running through their mind into mind, and then a Dettori allies it manipulated. So that I can get the story told through the voice that I hear this brings to the the psychiatrist Dr talk little who's another fantastic monstrous creation where did she come from? She sort of just appeared to me fully formed as a as a figure, I never really saw her as a monster. I saw her as like pretty benign actually in her mannerisms, actually sort of gentle person, the gentle person managing great poisons and thought shoes really funny, she was Corky in a way that was unpredictable, but also made total sense to me and like a wonderful comic relief. And and she also added an important element to the book. The I thought. What was sort of the solution to its own self seriousness, which was now lament of the fantastic. I mean, this isn't a book that's pretending to be nonfiction. I mean, this is a there's an element of oh say it's like surreal, but you do have to suspend your disbelief in order to, you know, ingest the book, and she she's ready for this book as I mean, we might sound like took it about quite grim subject matter. But he's really funny. It's really funny hurts. So it was it was enough podcast. But David sedaris mentioned you broken hamlet. You likes your work and described you you're writing as funny in a way that the person writing it doesn't necessarily know that they're funny. What is what do you think? That means does that sound rights here. Very well. He's been a huge supporter of my work. I'm really grateful flattered that he likes it. And I think that he thinks that I might not know I'm being funny is is actually a huge compliment. Because it means I'm getting away with it without being transparent. So yes, I know I'm being funny. I'm just really good at it. Ha ha. He elicited Latins nailed any today. I'm took to tests much fake. We talked about her late his novel my year of rest and say Asian attested. We mentioned to Tuttle, and she's the psychiatrist prescribes this regime of various different medications to on the rates some of which are invented which will get to the minute. But plenty of them on edge. She does take festivals various different, you know, antidepressant. So it I sleep medications and things how much sort of recess. Did you do into into these medications whether or not these great fistfuls of of drugs would actually the surprised today? Well, I tried every single drug in the book, and I built up a tolerance to to most of them to the point where I could take this amount of medication and continued right? Which is a total joke of hers do that. There's no way I could researched all this stuff. I mean. But it's not meant to be taken literally either. I think there's probably enough out there that the average reader has associations with things like Ambien or I mean Ambien is probably the most popular sleep aid prescription sleep aid. I don't know what do you call it ambient here. Also, another nine whether or not the same. It's the same. You would prescribe to tonight. But I don't know. But you know, figured it doesn't really matter. How much the reader knows are how much this is accurate because it's like I said, it's not it's not to be taken. So literally the book kind of prescribes the terms for itself on the new read it in you, don't or I don't know how worried people are like, oh, she going to be. Okay. Like, of course, she's okay? She's narrating the book from retrospect that we know that she survives. And that's all you really need to worry about did. So the the main made up drug infamous Toronto. Yup. Is this basically into like a few stay for days. She has these blackouts Wes your wake up, and the the flat is full of light new shopping and stuff that she's been out and purchased in the three days, which is built under and has no idea that she's done at where does this idea of. Well, I think deal I mean, the blackout isn't a new idea. I mean, I needed not to expose too much of the inner workings of the book, but something had to happen. I mean book about somebody sleeping successfully for a year would be very boring. So there needed to be some kind of self interruption and this new drug in for mineral creates essentially in alter-ego for our character in that alter-ego seems to have an agenda and there in lies the conflict that the protagonist needs to resolve. So that's really the purpose of the informational and. I think you know, doubly serves a purpose that she doesn't have to be conscious during any of these activities, which seemed to indicate that she wants something more for herself than she can admit in her conscious. Life could have better not a mind. You could've written those scenes where she lives out onto the influence or these parties and the shops and things, but we get is just the fragments of what might have happened in those days when she returned right? We get the evidence of that. Right. I mentioned Riva a best friend, and I got a best friend inverted commerce because for both of them. Really? What would never believe they were best friends they cling to each other absence of anybody else. Why does he maintain this relationship? What do they maintain relationship? I think they need each other. And I think they're very co dependent in their need for each other. If you read the book, you'll see those there is a very delicate balance between them. Reba looks up to the protagonist in a way that also puts her in a position of judging her and in doing so empowers REBA and the same can be said for the protagonist. There's a system of judgment condemnation and superiority through comparison in in different areas of person hood, and it's sort of thing like you hate when when we hate someone might be because they're expressing something that we can't stand to look at in ourselves. And I think that they are kind of reverse images of one another, although they do have plenty in common too. And I think they have they enjoy they enjoy the disgust that won't each other elicits in there. You know, repartee comes more about REBA who receive Rivas college friend, and she also is. Manhattan who lives on the other side town. She comes from a more middle-class background, she's Jewish. She is she works as a secretary. I in midtown insurance. Brokerage firm and then gets transferred to a different position in the same company who has offices in the World Trade Center. She's pretty superficial sort of the kind of person to be obsessed with brand names and knock off designer handbags. And she's also pretty keen on like self help and whatever's popular, but she doesn't seem to have very many intimate friends. And I think she's probably incapable of real intimacy just like our protagonist is. And I think that their friendship remains in a loving yet sterile zone. Where they both feel safe. So yeah, REBA doesn't like for things to get messy. And neither just do aerator took about Trevor is on a writer's writers of on off Nova in the past from the position. She's she's already Tang. Who is hey Trevor is yes, just as you said on again off again quasi boyfriend who works on Wall Street, and it's sort of a flak character. We don't get to know him. Very well, we know that he likes to make money he's kind of cocky, and that he returns to our protagonist at her request with some sort of sadistic thrill and she's game. So he's just a recurring character that I think reflects her really sort of. Self-destructive need like if she were if she were real Trevor confirms the protagonists cynicism about love and human connection in that. She she calls in requests his company when she most desperately needs to be comforted. And he provides her with company, but up -solutely, no comfort and in. So doing confirms her cynicism that there really is nothing that we can offer each other that everybody is sort of his or her own satellite, and that feelings do not transgress on you mentioned earlier about your privilege, obviously when you say down to write this book, you know, you not necessarily addressing concerns of the day. But you know, now, we're in sort of me too. Well, Trevor I mean Trevor mostly seems like an asshole but on all right to roll. So Tokes about the men she's encountered a call. Age men that we might think should be better progressive men, left wing men sensitive men that read books and how basically, you know, those guys that just as likely to be house. She's an asshole too. I don't know. I am not I can't even engage with that me too stuff. It's so I didn't write this book as a response to me too. I wrote this book like two and a half years ago three years ago, it takes place near two thousand men and women behave men and women in their early twenties are idiots, and they don't know how to have respect for each other or themselves oftentimes when it comes to sex because it's new new to them, and we've all been poisoned by totally pornographic culture, the thinks that, you know, up until like six months ago, every movie TV show, etc. Like, it's cool to be a womanizing asshole. Like that means you're like big strong man, and you know, up until cut like six months ago. It was cool to be a little coquette slut because that you had power in. In your sexuality as women. Well, okay. So the rules have changed doesn't mean that the past has changed or that we need to somehow hold everybody accountable for things in literature that are occurring eighteen years ago. So I don't really see how this book fits into that conversation. But of course, people can talk about whatever they want voted mentioned another to work through while in a Chelsea gallery. Right. I was a sort of like, you know reception a stroke onum in the gallery. This allows you to have some fun with the with the load of the the end of the last century. And you mention that looking about chains. How how do you think he's changed? I really shouldn't say how it's changed on because I'm not involved in the art world, and I don't have an intimate knowledge or even well-placed opinions about what's changed in art in galleries in Chelsea New York. But what I have observed. Leads me to think that while at the turn of the millennium. There was a sense that much of the power of our visual art was in its visceral strength that get elicited a feeling in the body as well as the mind in what I see happening more and more from my very ignorant point of view is that art has become more conceptual, and we're intellectual I often walk into a gallery. Look at a thing. And then have to read for half an hour what it means not saying that's less valuable than art from twenty years ago. But it certainly different and I wanted to capture in my year of restaurant Alexei Shen time where art really was extremely this role immediate very visual to the point of disgusting absurdity that I thought was hilarious muga, plenty of that. In this book. In some of the office. The next time, we spike we talked about some of the writers that might be an influence on your writing in gem. And I wanted to talk about what otherwise might have been an influence on this book in particular, people ask me that this law, and I in my answer is consistently one note, and it's that I didn't read very much at all. When I was writing this book, I read a little bit for research, mostly about the art world. But if there was a novel that influenced me, I would have to say that it was American psycho by Bret east analysis. I wasn't reading the book at the time. But I had read it, and I kept it as a reference point for myself to help me understand the distance between myself as the author and my character as my narrator. So that I could manipulate my narrator without losing her sense of authenticity in the voice. Because I thought of American psycho, but didn't really want to say that because it seemed to obvious. But yeah, you can definitely say is influence in this book. I think I mean, it's really obvious. Why would think of it too? I mean, it's a American psycho is in a different takes place in a different period in New York. But it is you know, sort of Assad tire of the city in culture, especially to do with the money parts of culture. I mean, I pictured Trevor I would almost picture Patrick Bateman, even though trevelise into murdering psychopath at all. But he might dress like like that. Yeah. I just I I love how far he pushed that character. That was really inspiring letting Alice's a writer that I don't I would never compare my work too. But who I think is so peculiarly genius that reading. Ng like, I just reread less than zero. And it just I just find him so different from anyone else in really astonishing. I really love. I really really admire his work. Just one thing for me. Then I'll get you to read some if you would what are you going to be working on next? I'm working on a new novel very early stages. So not much to report yet really just doing research, but it's narrated by a ghost. So it isn't not setting out to write comedy. It's a little it's a little bit more of a serious and an historical novel takes place, the turn of the last century about a young Chinese woman who immigrants to California during the Chinese exclusion act. So she has to do so in drag and then live as a man with much difficulty in San francis- in a fictionalized San Francisco in the early nineteen hundreds so. It's sort of saga. And I haven't written it yet. Sounds using. Can I get you to? Kriva head interesting method of mixing her drinks after each sip of diet mountain dew, she'd pour a little Jose Cuervo into the can to take up the space for sip had displaced. So that by the time she finished. She was drinking straight to Keila. It was fascinating to me. I caught myself imagining the ratio of of diet mountain dew to Jose Cuervo in that can with the formula would be to measure it sit by sit. I'd studied Xenos paradox in high school algebra, but never fully understood it infinite divisible theory of having whatever it was that philosophical quandary was exactly the kind of thing. Trevor would have loved to explain to me. He sit across from me at dinner slurping, his ice water muttering fluently about fractions of sands in the fluctuating price of oil, for example. Oh, while his eyes scan the room behind me as though too. Firm to me that I was stupid. I was boring. Someone far better might be getting up from table to go powder. Her nose, the thought stung, I still couldn't accept that. Trevor was a loser and a moron. I didn't wanna believe that. I could have degraded myself for someone who didn't deserve it. I was still stuck on that bit of vanity. But I was determined to sleep it away to testimony vague who took it about her latest novel my year of restaurant allocation, which is out now from Jonathan Cape Tessa. Thank you so much for show with me. Thank you. This little atoms was produced and presented by me. Denny custom residents. I four by eight to nine in the book by find us on I and if you like do leaves a review, you can find old interviews new journalists moment on our website little dot com. Thanks for listening.

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Lennon Parham, Our Goals Friend

Hollywood Handbook

1:27:33 hr | 2 years ago

Lennon Parham, Our Goals Friend

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And you throw the receiver open, you don't throw it to where they are. You throw where they're going to be Bank. When you're taking the photograph someone on zip-line God. I wish you were there. No. And I wish I could have been, of course. You know, smoke and me. Have a little bit of history. Yeah. Do you talk about that. Oh, yeah, I am. I going to talk about my thing with snow. Well, this was in my wild days. Yeah. And let's face it. I wasn't always respectful of the ruler smokes feelings, and I thought we have standing by the way. I'm very impressive. You came admit that, hey. Hey, I'm not perfect. I'm human being. I've made mistakes before. Okay. So basically, I thought there was sort of an unspoken understanding and when we spoke about it, Nope. Didn't feel that way. I had four best friends. So I would say this my best friend supreme leader snoop. And Super League, or snoop meant that was the only best friend I have. At the same time, I was best friends with, of course, Mace Windu. And the two of them don't get different colored light sabers Musee hate each other. And not only that I was best friends. It's still up to this day with eight. Beep up boop up. And of course goal member. No, and Goldmember member, and I would rip up the town and we go out and we'd get wild. And then I would get a call the next day from snow. Like sounds like you and Goldmember were having a good time. I heard that you. Had the secret password to get into our bar in k town, and that you got in there and won the trivia contest and that you're trivia team was called the best friends. I hope that's ironic. I hope you're not really well. We are, but so are we? So that's possible. So. I've apologized. And I did that for me and if no one to accept that apology, that's okay. That's his trip. You know that that's his thing. He wants to go on zip line tour. Kind of at me. I knew he was. I knew he was using me. I knew he was using me. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay. I said, what I needed to say that. My when my go ahead harness on. Yeah. All right. And i'm. Blasting out of this thing. It's just the effect is insane. If you've ever worn one of these. Yeah. I mean, it just has never the presentation has just never been more worthy of picture. Yeah. The distribution of your body. Oh, my guys just you're built for harness. Yes. Yes. I've never really felt like any outfit I've ever worn has has done me Justice like this harness. So I'm getting very excited about the picture. I get released. I'm kind of like spinning around in the air on zip line to try and get a good angle like to like, like, do full arms starfish out like. For the picture. And I'm like, why Ming? My eyes to do like my big face. And my eyes are so wide. I have a clear view of Tony just big cleaning to reach for her phone, but it's too late. Now, Tony, I've gone well past the point of no return. Finally get to see the picture. I'm like tiny little speck in it. I'm so sorry that happened. And now have nothing. I sacrifice my friendship with you right. Furthest picture, and now I don't have it. And what were you going to do with the picture? I was going to give it to you. That would have made things right. That would have made things right. Hollywood have look guy picking the right path. And the right proper linebacker always industry we call show. We're at the dynasty, typewriter theatre, it's the second show we've done here. And the first one was pretty good. Yes. Can we recapture that same magic. I did have one thing I wanted to mention is anyone from the dynasty typewriter theater who can stand up here, who I can speak to about something about this theater. Is there anyone here anyone. Makes sense. Given the story, I'm about. Go ahead. I someone coming up. Come up. Hi, come on Frankie. This is Frankie. He works the dynasty typewriter theater. So nice. I'm sure this is not your fault, but you can tell whoever the responsible party is. I'm driving by the dynasty typewriter theater two weeks ago. I see a sign on the marquee and it says, love it or leave it sold out. Okay, that part of the story is important. Let's remember that. I think if I'd driving along, I do a little smile. Say, oh, what a delicious treat. It will be. You, you got to imagine that the love it or leave. It probably took a photo themselves in front of that sold out Mark. Be nice. That's when you could send your parents. I am doing something. You send them a billboard and they say, I don't get it. Flash forward two weeks later, I'm driving along. Getting ready for my low treat. And I look at the marquee first of all on the west facing side, which is where let's be honest everyone is coming from. It says like, I'll go those buckets, snacks traffic answer something. Some like some like ten thirty pm show who gives a shit. And then so I have to crane my neck around to look at the Hollywood handbook side and it says Hollywood handbook. The end. Now I remember Hayes telling me about a week ago, so somewhere along the course of this story, he said, hey, we really got a sell out this dynasty typewriter show. And I said, I said, yeah, I hope it will. And it goes, no, we have to make sure that they put sold out on the marquee. So. I activated my army. And I put the God damn work in. And you could not buy a ticket for this show. But would you know that from the marquee. Frank, you've been raising your hand very nicely. And so I would like to say, yes, Frankie. Go ahead. Something tells me by the time, everybody here walk said side. It'll say so, fuck it. System words. Thank you. So it sounds like Frankie says, relax. Oh, it's a special nights special night. Oh, yeah, special. We've got a great gas. I don't see any reason to hold back on our guest any longer. No, I think that she's probably been standing backstage wondering how long do is bullshit. We'll do it together. It's the same fucking shit. Like I get to sit down and have a Mike that dear dear friend, she's part of the ear will family. Please welcome to the show. Lennon Parham. Hi, thank you for having me. You honor me Lennon. You guys will always be sold out in my mind. You told us before the show that you've done Largo a bunch of times a fucking ton of time. You that we have been explicitly told, we are not allowed to do. And and a lock you through the process more specifically, we've been asked, hey, would you guys want to try to show at Largo? And we say, yes, we would love to do a show at Largo, and then we get an Email to excited. It says, you can't. They have rejected out of hand the idea of you do your show there, but it seems like this entire audience if we went over to Largo now. Yeah. Yeah, I would do pretty big numbers at Largo. It's a big space like twice the size. So. Maybe some people on the way or like, oh, where are they going. They right, whatever their about volved they see that guy who came up before, like a big baton at the front of the. Braid. We could March. They're like in concert. In concert, like as one that means, okay. But we do like some John so many things. Oh, yeah. We like. Everything can happen. AAC on-site? Yeah, I'm on board a love, Capella. Go. God is enough. Some God. Is. Awesome. Having fun. I was suture to the beat. I was frigging surgically attached to the beat on that one, Dan, that felt good to be that deep in the pocket. Sorry, I didn't. I can't. No you. So I don't know. I'm gonna get all the way around back. Move these around now. Thank you. Frankie is everybody. You guys are really hard on Frankie, but he's like the guy next door. He's got that great accent. So layoff who lives next door to you? Frigging Mike, Myers Zion added. So I married at acts burner. I don't know that reference. It's the same voices fat bastard, but it's. It's a handful years, early, Mike mired. It's less. And older person. Yes. Like. Word? Yes. Yeah, you while you're watching you get a sneaky suspicion. Wendy. How old were you guys in that came out. In nineteen seventy. What year was that that you were saying? The same euros board. Okay. Born in the seventies, where are you. You're a piece of shit. Your pieces. Shit. All right. You were born in the eighties, both of the right is anybody in the nineties. Fuck you off. And what about what about the was anybody born after whatever that terrible year was, we thought it was all going to end nobody right when it is. Liquor license Trat. The police send her out. Just to make sure at these shows where they're selling alcohol. She has this way. She got everyone to say what decade they were born. Thank you. Got it. Introduced is a sleeper agent. Yes. And if there are any teens, Anna crowd, they will say, Whoo. Where's the dude on the front? Where is the? I don't think they're any teens here now. No, but they would have to go to jail. One is the legal age guys. Twenty-one. Well, let's talk about that for a little bit. So you're saying I could go get my ask blown off for my country. But I can't crack a bottle of suds in my own backyard. Sorry, that math don't exactly check out for me. Look into go fight on colo- bomb little red or. But I can't kick back with Jarrah suds. I have never heard side. Is that is that like a long day wounds, restaurant log. Back with a jar. Two. Just relax. Like Frankie says to do. No, you gotta stop with that baby. Got rich with that little moon on. Did you ask if it was. Yeah. What do they call? What do they call the beer in the fear on the Simpson thought, okay. Yeah, but but but if you flip it, Josh. They say, man, don't feel like a man. He can have a nice bottle of suds after a long day's work. That was a Shashank reference. Wow, that either you don't know. So I very ax murder or Shawshank. Geez. The ruth. I've seen Shawshank. All right, settle down. Okay. But I'm what I was saying earlier is I think so I married an axe murder came out already young like a burnt like a budding adult that was like I was already watching like high arc. You know what I mean? Oh. Meet the feebles, whatever. What do you say. Made the Abel's. Yeah, meet the feebles. I like you get super high go, they're being artistic. That's called the feebles, meet the feeble sort of the happy time. That's when Peter Jackson good and did real shit. None of this like older, whatever it was when he put his hand in like a puppet that was meant to look like shit. Any added say that it had like like our dark crystal? Yeah. Because that was like hen sends dark work that stayed with me for Abed. Oh, God. And that shit was performing kids. You're a member for kids. Yeah, Jesus, your life essence was sucked out of you by a group of Skaggs sees which and a woman pop dry ball out just so she could like submarine around check out the. I mean, that's Dr can watch dark crystal. Yes, but you can't take back with a jar of Sutton. Yeah, I'm sorry. Mad. Just don't add up. I'm trying to crunch the numbers on this one. It don't make a whole lot of sense. You guys like PANA tonics? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Right group over the fuck out of see something I'm giving up on you. I like their let it go as well. It's bonus track on their most recent Christmas album. And that's for kids. Let it go there. Everything's you idea. Shouldn't for them for Panatani. I wish they were. I was probably thirty seven before I knew what they were. Okay. You actually look a lot like the lead singer. Okay. Yeah, I'm getting a major pentatonic lead singer vibe from you. Right. He's killer. Wow. And it sounds like what you're saying. He's young. Yes, Orta. Okay. Yeah, born in the whatever the eighties, maybe that was your audition song. I didn't do my God is an awesome God. I did. Same love. Then you do same love. I don't know what that is. Man. The more so. God. I'm so old. You understand? I would only have heard that song if they played on on NPR, which they might have. Yeah, they definitely. It was in the new like thrift shop. Touched me. The fringes of thrift shop touched me and same love a little bit right. Okay. True story BB eight once sent me an Email that said, like, have you checked out this video? Yeah, and it was for three of shop. I said back the dirt nasty video nineteen eighty it said. Do you mean this video? And he never responded. Let's talk about why we're really hearing is a special night is a special night. There's someone who has become in the show. For. No reason, yes. And like all other times he is here. And his name is chef Kevin, and. Now I'll be the audience. I hang on who gives a shit who I care about. Chef shut the fuck up. This shit. I know. I know. Wait a minute. Why? Why would I care about chef Kevin today all days. If we could just be very nice to chef Kevin today. Okay. Today is his birthday on? Yes. We've all been talking about edge. And when you were born and all of that was just subtly programming you for a birthday show? Yes. And he, I'm sure has been waiting backstage looking at that empty chair. Yeah, looks about the size of chef Kevin's, but doesn't it. We'd like to welcome him on stage right now. Chef Kevin, please come out. Ted. So there was one comedy prop end. Green room. It was a sparkly hat sparkly top hat, and it is something of a birthday hat. And that's what chef Kevin is wearing right now. Kevin, happy birthday. Everything guys come in here. Thank you. What did you do today? I was at work and we recorded pro version. Yeah, that's right. Pretty nice birthday spent with your closest friends. Yeah. Anything else? Did you eat any special plans today? I want you alone, and then I came here. It also sounds like for money's described that he ate lunch at seven thirty pm. What did you eat for lunch for weed. I had a veggie sandwich at pizza, man, this guy, this guy went vegan, but you know, it was just so he could eat more weed. What a sick Bernau. Komi. Hey, Cav. You guys know each other from around the office or not really? Definitely. Well up, I don't, but I was the production coordinator when want started. So I did scheduling with them the first few months, electric rate story. It's really fun. Glad I asked that question. So you never know sometimes. GM hidden just behind the curtain. What year were you born nineteen Ninety-two. Damn well. Two years before Forrest Gump. Crazy to think about. That was a great soundtrack. The Forrest Gump soundtrack was, did you want to sink some of it cappella. Listen every time that you asked me to sing, I will. Okay. So if you want that throughout your show, I may start way too low. It's going to sound really terrible. I may start. Hi, I may do both jump octaves like I did with our God is an awesome God. What? What was track one. When you put the CD and dislike put it in TD. Well, in nineteen ninety two had just gotten a white Honda Accord for my sixteenth birthday, I believe so I didn't have a CD player in the car. So I would have I had I would have had a double cassette player. Dope dope dope. Dope dope dope. So side. One track. One was the Forrest Gump suite. Trying to remember. That. Really. You could almost side the floating down. Telling our story. That's, that's so, but we win. Just bring cabin up here just to sit and just like do nothing next to land. We have land here. That's like, this is kind of a birthday spent like special gifts surprise for you and addition to we did or give you a gift today. Yes, very nice. Sean, put a twenty dollar Bill on the table and said, happy birthday. That's right. Raceable spend it on anything. And then what did I do? You've John ten dollars. That's right. That's right. Lennon. Have you ever heard of anything that nice. No. I mean, the only thing nicer was when Hayes before we came out here said that he had never considered your feelings ever. About how you might be feeling about your treatment on the show or or being here if you got nervous? Yeah, you'll, he asked he, he asked you ever get nervous. I've never thought about that and then everyone laughed, and then you guys moved on. Yeah, you never said we had to do the show. What are we going to like stand back there while you decide whether or not you get people waiting here for like riding my ass. It was the one time he was a relaxed. When I'm not allowed, I'm not allowed to enter the Frankie says, relax universe. That's kind of that's. I feel like this audience doesn't know that song. No, they know the shirt from the wedding singer. That's what they're going off. They were four when the weddings came out. Okay. So shift Kevin's Ghana's in another weird pyramid scheme thing that he has figured out. I never know what he's doing, but apparently now we have an ad where supposed to read for another podcast, not in your podcast, no called your Kickstarter sucks. And then he says they are doing that for us and exchange. We have heard that. We don't know why knowing if that's true, what he's talking about and I know in this house of cards collapses, it's gonna fall down right on me and crush my bones. That's what I know is going to happen. Oh, yeah. And guess who's going to be left holding the bag of bones of bones me and, and Bosch will be like, ooh, because I'll have all those phone. Yes, but it's still will be really sad because Hayes, honestly is one of my top ten closest friends in the industry. I heard about. Everyone heard that cough. Hey, guys show here. I'm sorry, still sick working through it or you sick in earlier episode? Yeah, last week. Thanks for listening. I don't really know about that. So I so when I do this ad copy, I have no idea whether there's really another ad out there. I don't know if this is a show and it's written in a way specifically designed to humiliate me because I'm saying, here's the copy written this exactly what it says. We present six campaigns per episode and talk about why they're more often than not incredibly stupid. We I say. So that's me, it's you. There's not a podcast. I'm the one who gets sued gas lighting, their gas lighting me, and I'm getting set up to get sued. It's for your Kickstarter sucks. It's a show about crowd funding start-ups gadgets by too dumb guys from the midwest. Oh, gray Jesse for our and the frequent dog Boehner oh my gosh. Okay. Bosch likes that par. You remember when we did that, it's the guy that did songs about poop. Yeah, I pray. I wish I had a time Gede. Go back and do that. We were doing it. We were actually proud of. Suddenly we actually wanted to support a guy who did like six hundred songs about poop and was extremely sensitive. Now, we test in review products. It's me again. We just Amazon's launch pad home for product that were typically successfully funded on crowdfunding platforms. And we give that stuff away to our listeners. You're okay with this. I mean, crunching my bones. Worst worst case scenario, like if this isn't a podcast like we have a new side job. You know, like you have other side jobs, like Hollywood crumbles, you said no, you moonlighting. No, I don't know what that is. Sorry, it's like gaslight. Yeah, but with the moon, yes. Telling people the moon is real. It's when a girl does it. No, yeah. Sorry, this is Britain in the wrong, like a language. It should be the host of your Kickstarter sucks. But, hey, you know, check out the show hang on because there's more to say about the show. Okay. There are a lot of crude jokes, so don't let your kids listen to Putin Kevin. What was going to end before we even said that who's left holding the bag? Yeah, me when frigging kids get so damaged, and I got a foot the Bill for their whole therapy for the rest of her life. And then then they have. So we again, we like to have fun and chill out. Just relaxes. Our motto is us too. Yeah, but then it says that one was a joke, but this one is real. We talk about stuff and it's funny and that is not us. Paul Tomkins Laren lab because Scott arguments started a new podcast together here on air wolf. It's called three them, hey, guys, what are you talking about? Hey, oh, thank God. You're here. Sign. We're talking about this show three them. Oh, yeah, I shown answer a question for me about it. Okay. I mean, do you, do you mind asking the question first and then I'll decide if I'm gonna answer it. Oh, yes. Okay. You don't have to promise to answer or what it is. Because honestly, if I had that power, I would ask a different question unless we're playing truth or dare. Okay. Obey like any there. Rules follow. Truth dare about the show. Well, I'm afraid of what Hayes. My dare me to do. I've started sitting on a dare, oh man, you got it. I met and you can get at all always jus de horrible for you to not be able to play truth or dare. It's very tense because I previously had played it constantly. Yeah, man, Friday nights must be so lonely for you now. Yeah, he, yeah, Friday night truth or dare nights. Oh, that's become just Friday night. Just frigging microwaves, some popcorn and watch it again. Mikhail's navy shirt, complete, DVD seasons, yeah. Okay. So what do you want to question? Yeah. Shoukat crazy or what. Sometimes. Yeah, sometimes pretty serious one more. Yeah. Yeah. How frigging crazy is this show? Got. Sort of crazy. Yeah, similar questions. It's very similar. You could have just had follow up. Oh. Oh, well, I out of time is in a bad, like I just worry a little bit that you are doing going to every other podcast. It's doing an ad for this show every pike as. All of their ads just to sneak in. And have you guys talk about three of them? Yeah, like because you're worried about what people will say about you wanna supervise them or. Oh, I really want the Hollywood handbook audience. Yeah, I need to capture this small subset of podcast listeners. Ear about, you know, three them. I really want people to listen to make money. I wanna make money that's all about. I usually I use it to eat. I get it. I've used it for that before as well. Yeah, it's it's hard to get around it. Yeah, it's hard to eat without using some of that money. Yeah, especially at Spago God, yes, they are obsessed with it their, he'll love it. So they don't ask for it up front? No, it's very much. It's very different from the question, asking your age for the you had early where everything is kind of on the table at the beginning opposite of that, it's a very hip situation where they're like, you know, just come in. Have looking to get, and I go on. What about all. Do you mind? It would. I could. I have that right away. You're like, I'll get it. No, no, yeah. They bring it out then at the end, they're like, excuse me, sir, handy. Let slip a paper using you. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. Listen to three them. So Kevin, the special surprise for you is what we're going to do is just kinda block out Kevin's year. Because we didn't do that last year and now a year has gone by and I find myself thinking we might have benefited from a little planning at the beginning of last year. So at at this year, we end of the year we could have made a little progress. We could find ourselves in a different place than we were at the beginning. I can't believe a year has passed for you because what has happened names warts that seems the same or maybe worse. You know, let's face it. You're on the wrong side at twenty five. Staring down the barrel, some rough years. If we don't start building something now it's gonna be too late. So one thing we wanna do tonight is we want to get some input, some input. We wanna crowdsource what the people want to see from chef Kevin, like in the in the coming year, some things that you could do for yourself for our show. I guess. I mean, let's start with Lennon letting you can't be happy with chef Kevin. This current brand. I don't wanna be rude. But I have to say to you guys that if you wanna let chef Kevin blossom, then we might need to stop saying way and let chef Kevin fly. Okay. We should fire showed Kevin. I talked about it. Okay. So that's vote for chef. Kevin is fired. Well, does he have room to grow? I think that say us, I mean with you guys, does he have room to all directions. All right. Well, I guess then we have to leave it up to Kevin and see what he wants. Okay. Yeah. Oh, grow. Okay. Oh, Wow. I've never ever gotten him to say anything like that. Twenty six to twenty eight. That's like, physiologically. And in your brain, there is a major major shift that happened. So a lot of people in their lives and I'm looking at you all who on ninety two. It's like there's a big, maybe you've already entered it. Maybe you're on the way through it. Maybe you're in the middle of it. Maybe you're past that and you never member when you were twenty six to twenty eight like the shit that that was and that you had kinda get down under the barb wire crawl for awhile, and then you come out and you either come out like, you know, Rambo, like happy. You know, famous happy guys, Rambo. Happiness, Rambo, charging shower, get your victim? I don't never. I don't know that or you die in the mud, you know? So. You know again, it's a choice for you. You guys, you know, will you be there to support him? Because obviously he looks up to you. Oh. I'm never thought about it that way. I've been an influence on him and somehow responsible for this product. Yeah, that he's, he's modeling my behavior. It's confusing because I've never worn a pocket tee in my life. I certainly never seen you where one. No. So it must be from someone who is this? Who is that from a scar? Yeah. It was a rogue Sklar. They gave me the shares that they didn't want from advertisers. Now, this was gap gap gap at this coun- gap will get you. Yeah. Why don't we get some ideas from the audience of something we'd like to see chef Kevin add to his routine daily? Yes, that could be really helpful. Something like maybe some people who are a little older than chef, Kevin, some things that they've done. Daily routine. Yeah. Yeah. But like help them get things done or anything like that. Things like character, like a routine on the show, you know. Do that. I mean, this, is this what you're daily. Are you kidding me? I'm sorry. Oh, I'd say I take everything back. Good low. He's auditioning these characters behind the seeds through team. Yeah, he wants the routine already has so many characters. He said, yeah, what's your top character. Defending myself guy. Well, that leads into something I wanted to talk about. Are you going to finally take karate lessons this year? Confusing thing about defending myself guy. He's very weak. Yeah. Right? Yeah, I should take some Crotty lessons and. Yeah, that's how do we pick out a DOE, Joe, Kevin, it's gotta be walkable, right? Yeah. I mean in Callie, can you find the one that all Maccioni hit up? Yeah, are gathered or something go to like, yes, you could go together. It's DOE, Joe. Like yelp gathered, Stoja walkable. You can just be walking up and down the street in your key. And the business owners, the pizza man who you are friends with somehow, say like, goes covered. Do you do anything to make yourself physically strong currently besides walking on sunset. That's kind of my on. I got up our, but it started our hurt. Was hurting the like hips up. Because I was trying to do the reverse setup one that hurt my stomach. And then I did the pull up one that hurt my shoulders. And then when I did a different one that was hurting my arms. When you say hurt, do you mean like your muscles were sore from exercise? That sounds right. Do you have? Do you have a roommate? No. Don't do this by yourself. So dangerous. Who would find you. That I would like fall off the poll up collapse. Well, it doesn't sound like don't laugh. I mean, it doesn't sound like it's going very well. Anything could happen. You heard almost your whole body. You want to ask them what they think you should do physically? Yeah. Like any kind of like routine stuff, stuff you guys? Do you start what. Okay. He said, start wiping. So, yeah, we asked for the audience to say something. Is that something that you've announced that you don't live? You just like try to get a clean shit. And why will say this person in the audience is the person sitting closest to Kevin. That he wanted the theater. No, that's never been thing. Weiping. So you think it doesn't exist. No, I y. I'm good at wives. I by act I by wipes. I use the toilet paper like you buy wipes separately, like children's wipe? Yeah, just the occasional like if I want to treat myself. I mean, this being your birthday, you must be going through a ton of. I did notice that walk on stage with extras wag. This guy's feel clean as. I'm feeling good. Can't have been eating whole tweet work at show. Well, vegans are not known for having normal stool. I mean it. It might have taken you. What were you always vegan? Did you use to eat me and then you transitioned been vegetarian for five years in vegan for year? Yeah. Okay. So there were some rough patches in there? Probably up -solutely some some Weipa moment. Your body language has shifted so much. It's like you're trying to cave in on yourself hand in the armpit legs tightly wound, it's gonna be okay buddy. So that was a good suggestion. There was something there. He saw something you didn't couldn't pin down what direction. It's either not enough or too much and ended up being too much. I'm interested in the idea of Kevin's pull up are falling. And when and how we would realize something was wrong. Yes, I think it would probably be that we'd get an Email from Dana saying that we hadn't read any ads for like a month. I think people on message boards and stuff would be like where why? There are no pictures for this episode, but that's mad now. That's right. Okay. Yeah, you might be hanging out there for a little while. Yeah, it's ex. Anyone else. Anyone have advice on a daily routine. Okay. I heard go to school. Wow. Was the moonlight one. Boy blue. Okay. So they want you to get like those special glasses. Did you go to school? I did, yeah. Which one? I went to grade school and high school in college, and. Checks out. Yeah. College get middle every single one. And you are at college for how many years? Three and a half. Did you graduate early. Where did you go to college? Northern Illinois university. Okay. Did you hear that you're just gonna? Let that go. Hey, get up. Hey, who said, boo? You mess with northern Illinois university. You mess with all of us. Please don't. It's my birthday. Really give it to him, defend your school. We have a good business programs. What program did you do. Jocson there and Kevin. Yeah. You could go back for your master's. I could. Do you want to. I've thought about it, but no, I think it'd be fine to have your masters fun. What is. On his couch staring straight ahead. Dude, no fun. With just like a half smile on his face. Empty space, master's diploma size space on his wall. Just imagining. Drift away and be masters cabin for a little bit. What do you want a master's in? Like? I think English. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe audio engineering. That'd be cool. He's playing out a conversation. He's having a barista, whatever. Sorry. I know I already asked for your name, but do you have a masters. No need to apologize. Miss. Yes, I do. That's such a treat for you. So. So I'm sorry, I stepped on the answer. You were gonna get an English masters? Yeah, English or screenwriting audio engineering. All sound like cool. Masters. Oh, yeah. And the fund would come wild doing it or or you said it would be fun? Once I have. Would your life be like if you were like, fuck at mass? Does. I think maybe the probably the same, but like I'm a little older and I have, I have a mass, maybe. Like for as and. I've a masters, I earned the. So I guess I'm saying out loud, I should get like thing in my career that will help. So why are you waiting in that long line? You have a masters. Please write this way. Could be fun. Someone earlier was saying, boy, blue light, which I now realize was just the most brutal on. Because you are setting and just like the most. The most blue Ashli and you look like a blueberry ass bitch. So that was good advice. Anyone else. Yoga. I've had bad experiences with yoga. Great, good, good. Good. We're mapping out your whole year for you. I was falling a lot and following. Yeah. Alan stuff, right? Yeah, it was balanced and my feet would get sweaty and kind of slide off the hat. Shirt with hot yoga. You using your wife's on your feet as well. No, the only positive note I was getting where my hands looked good. Who said that the instructor when she would give each person a compliment. What. She had to say nice thing. Yeah, your hands look good. Yeah, that's exactly how she's wow. Did it make you feel good? Like the first two weeks when she wasn't like talking giving each person from the woman. Did it feel to do physically do the movements when you weren't. Slip sliding when you when you nailed oppose when you did a dour dog or something, or even Childs pose Shiva, which is just called corpse pose, did that feel? Did that movement feel good to you? Kevin answer, but then let's bring it back to this woman. Yeah, there was a moment where we had a, we had our hands on the floor, but we put our feet up on the walls like in that shape and I, I didn't get it like the first two, three weeks, but the one the one time I got it. I felt like I like peaked like. Yeah, that really nice. Masters level, throw. It's like knows a lot about this stuff. She. Yeah, I think so. And there is a rug here. This is a podcast, right? Yeah, but we can say what's happening. Okay. I won four weeks ago. One mood. I'm not. Oh, you are guests? Kevin, does whatever doing. Please. Okay, sure. You wanna do something buddy. I mean, it doesn't matter. Yeah. All right. So let's start. This is good. Senator yourself on that rock feet together. You're going to be great at this. Okay. Standing very straight. Kevin. All right. Let's just do something really simple. Why don't you go down gently onto all fours. Really good your hands look, great shirts tucked in. Like he was ready for that. Okay. Move your move your knees down so that there are under your hips, not so far little further for. Okay, so you're naturally doing what we call a cap Cappos. So make your back neutral? That's flat it out. That's it. That's it. That's it. You're hands still looking. Great. And. All right. Now arch your back. Bring your chin up, looking up at the sky right into the. Right into the blue light. Let your lower back saying they're good. Good, good, good. Now sit back on your heels. That's good and come down into a child supposed. Do you remember that? That's nice. Can we? We have to. Kevin, you can stay in this, but we should well should stay in his post. ROY, we should have been selling tickets for my seat. What tree. You did great Kevin, great job. Thanks, everyone. Your hands fucking next level, dude. Was like what I mean? They're just naturally great. Yeah, I do want to say we've been talking a lot about what you're gonna do this year plans. You have goals, it's been all about you. You haven't mentioned a single thing about the show that you work on. Yeah, it's all I'm gonna work out. I'm going to do this. I'm gonna beat everyone on. Sure like, well, hang on Kevin. I'm gonna be having so much fun with my master's. You have a job? Yes. Okay. And so you guys want suggest like what I'm going to do to help this show. Sure. Okay. I'm gonna try to have more people listen to. Okay. Let me ask right now is very significant moment is LA show. Yes. Why is it significant because it's sold out, but what was the this was a deadline wasn't that was the personal goal you yourself? Yeah, I'm glad I just got the goal of myself in retrospect. I had a goal to sell out all the live shows before this show happened, the Boston show the first bell. How show in New York and the second bell out show in New York. That's right. The Boston show so out, did the first bell show sell out? Did the second bell? How shall out. It did not know yet, but this was the deadline. That's right. Are those tickets still available that show hasn't happened yet? Right. Even going to do it now. We might cancel flights. For what Kevin failed. You're going for the first one though. Right? I don't. With what's been happening with Kevin lately. I'm not sure I can you gotta go to the bell hat. You know what. Bear in Brooklyn. Okay. Maybe we. Okay. That's does out pretty good. So this is it is day one of Kevin's year and we we, it is marked by failure. Nowhere to go but up. That's true. So what's next? What are we maybe people have suggestions from the ID things Kevin? Could you for the show. What. Talk back. Talk back show Kevin. You take the ball and run with that. We've given you all the tools you need. Three different words. Well. Hey, guys, chef Kevin here. Welcome to the talkback show. On today's episode. This is really good. He's crushing. Today's episode, I'm recapping the live show that they did in LA. It was a little too focused on me. See next week. That's pretty good. What about. I mean, obviously we're talking about the show your relationship to the show. We do have Lennon here on stage. You're right, we're focusing on you. She seems a little underused here. What are some goals we have for Kevin's relationship with lead in this? That's a great one. I'd love to hear that calf. I agree. I think. I think I'd like to make stronger by going out of my way to see when you guys are recording and say hi and saying, hi saying, hi, could be really. Extra effort because we record up on the fourth floor and you guys you move to the second floor. So we don't always see you. That's right. So you'll have to come up your floor. Floor. Yeah. Do you guys demanded that. The yellow room, the yellow room. We asked to always be recording next to lavar Burton. He gets record up. There do? Yeah. Next to us, we just record in an empty office. Now there's no one there anymore Kevin. That's my apartment actually. Okay. What would it sound like lemon shows. Hey, Lennon. What are you doing on the fourth floor? I'm sorry. That's very real. That from there, it's a short walk to you too. Are texting each other going? How'd you get this number? You're going. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Do you think Len for Kevin is okay. What do you think when if you if you caught a win now? I'm Kevin. Okay. That's why I know. Yeah, it's not my name. Yeah, no way don't do that. Come on man. Even with a master do that. Did you just say that? No, no, he said, Landon, hang. I was feeling. I could see him Megan, that kind of mistake. Heels. Good. Can I ask Kevin a question. Okay. So in ten years. Two thousand twenty eight. You've just turned thirty six. What are the like five things that you want in your life. Like a real sure. Rio kevin. I'm going to start crying. I would like to have a job that I'm really proud of. Check. K. Travel the world k. going to New York next week. Maybe a father and husband LA that. Right? A book. What's the book? Yeah. What kind of. My masters one hundred one fun things. I guess that's what you wanna know about England for. Yeah, maybe like a memoir about personal experiences in Los Angeles. There's thing. Wow. No, that's. Waiting for us to be like, no, that's a great idea. He's, I ask you something, and this is really not going to this is really not worth doing. It's going to de rail the show. Why were you so surprised to hear that Lennon records on the fourth floor? No one's ever offered that I need. We do. I didn't even know that. Oh, wait. We're, we record on the fourth floor. I was like, okay, let me play into this bit. This. When you get in the elevator, you hit four. Let me tell you I was doing okay. Yeah. You want all these guys exactly what floor we record. Look at these people. This is elevator button. I put exactly how you get to me. Great. Listen to what you're saying. No, yeah. No guy we well, I'm doing a job and I'm joking. We don't record on the fourth floor. No, this is also. A bit. But when does, oh, no, I was fucking with you. That is. Very outta made. I used a specific that you probably referenced in your show the color of the walls. I reference to guy that also records that you're wolf. So it would seem like it was legit. Oh. Different number interesting. All different number. We did a whole bit about two and four and it was amazing. Yeah, right. It's on tape forever. Kevin, you only at four things. Could be too. One, I think he's made some sort of child Brian. And he puts that third just to be like Mary my trial. I'd write a book. Body language and the way phrased it makes me think that's the thing he wants the most because said, may be in front of it, which means if he doesn't have it, then it won't be a failure. But really, that's what I want couldn't even admit a new himself well or to the entire world. Yeah, himself the coward. That was very perceptive. Thanks. What do you think about that? Just crawled inside your head and set up camp. Yeah, she's right. And then the next one is. To give back to the world, you have to. You have to have been given something. No, you just give like help out. What do you guys give to the world. Guests. That's nothing because I had one time I got in bed with Joan Croft Joan, Crawford Joan rivers, John Joe graph or no. I my my brain thought that too, and she was undercutting what she does like she was saying, I'm not worth anything basically, and I was like, well, that's old. That's some deep shit, right? But as far as I said, no, I think what we do is important. Comedy is important because it resonates takes in in in the shittiest of times, people can put you guys on in their double cassette player, and they can listen to you. They can feel bad, feel bad at feel connected with all of you guys and it is. For that. It is a podcast, but that doesn't mean that it isn't worth something about so Joan too. Thousand percent like who me like, who am I just like some little bug. Imagine the podcast she would've done. Sure. She would have described an outfit and then she would have ripped it to shreds. Yeah, I could see us being in a double cassette player, but we would be relegated to. Track to? Yeah, because track one would be the forest before. Sure. Do you think in now do you guys make mix tapes anymore? You make what playlists everyone just politely raising their hand? Yes. So how do you make make like a love mix for somebody now. I thought somebody said. Got somebody said sent up Elaine. They said, send them a link. Oh. A link that you make, what on your own I tunes or something you could do it too. Kevin makes these Spotify playlists and people go crazy for them. He's got one morning. Like like grief, no u k. And another one called like naive, Ning. Oh night. Sorry. Are they just open? Anybody can follow. Yeah, they got like sixteen followers. More after tonight people. Yeah, that could be a nice birthday present. So people follow Kevin's mornings Bod. If I play. Let's get that up to seven team follower. That's my goal. For this show. You look at what it used to be in high school, you could like if you had if you had a crush on somebody, but you didn't wanna tell them outright. 'cause you were in high school and you couldn't, or you wanted to ask someone out or have a child with someone you could. You could like. You know cassette like that you would have met? Not that you just hand like went thank thing, and it was like twelve seconds of work, but that you probably like waited and listen to the radio for that song to come on and then hit record time. Yeah. The order is so important and then how you write it and maybe there's a quote, maybe there's like a photo or something like that. You're trying not to leave dead air at the end of the side of the tape, right? So timing is everything you don't want to cut off song either. So I mean, you're really threaten the needle. So how do you, how do you say to someone now that cinema, a wink. How do you do it when you have a if you had a crush on someone and you want, but you wanted to share that with them. Sure. I would probably think of a very specific thing that we shared together and then try to find the skeleton. Yeah. I don't like it too much either Kevin because the correct through is I have a girlfriend. Well, yeah, that's true. And I'm very happy. I was just answering hypothetical. The other answer I would accept is like guess I'd try to get them into a Hollywood handbook show. Both are, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Pretty juicy. Wow. That would really show someone you care getting them into a live podcast recording Lennon. Can I observe something about you because you were so perceptive about Kevin. You keep asking audience, like, what do you guys do now? What like your? Yeah. Old is now. Get out. You seem to want to be this MRs old lady, but you are. You are young young is young of. I might look like that and can I can I make a gas? That may be why you're doing this. I hear that you're up to play Ricky's friend in the next rookie in the flash. I did not see that movie, but I do know what you're referencing. Is different than some of the things you've referenced earlier newer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that might be one of the reasons. I'm second guessing myself a grandmother part, you know? Yes, so course. But I mean, who doesn't wanna be next to Meryl. Right? So you know. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, pentatonic doesn't want me, you know. I don't know anything about how to marry an axe murder, whatever that is. Yeah, that would have been a good role. We. Just to close out the show. Can we get you end pentatonic once and for all they're listening to this. I'm sure one of them is this is your day. Steph, there were five. Remember when you said I look a lot like. Here's here's dead. That's a million. Here's the real thing. If I got to meet x.. Real life I would lose. I don't know. I would get excited about that. I would be like weird with them is they're five of them. There were five now therefore. Lost their their base, their guy who does base. Oh, yeah. I think he just was done touring any wanted to settle down, have a family. K. sometimes you have to make choices. Maybe we could audition that part like I would be the base well, that's what we need. Right. Okay. I mean, I did think second Alto in the women's scores at the university of Evansville. I know it's northern Illinois, but. Boot that. As cool. So. So what is what does on with a good base part? Well, this that we saying in the hall was magnum Assyria, but do you not know that one don't do I know magnum stereo. Do I known on? Yeah. Fight song, like all my mater. What. Never mind. No, it's it's like a real slow. Like is that is that's the song that plays while magneto moving the whole baseball stadium probably over the probably. All right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We've had a lot of success referencing x. men are live shows. Can we hear let it it's gone beyond pretending to be a little bit older. That's x. men. Does the mood. That everybody knows what I do know what x. men is. I'm a fan of that world. Obviously real. I like those movies. I love slower. Signed me up for. Okay. We're getting a little farther way for the bed. I love that ragnarok. Right? And he showed up in the most recent one avengers, you know the whole. We had to get the jewels all that. Yeah, I don't remember the plots, but I do like them. I've been trying to get you to saying, what do you what something with base apart we are. Okay, crazy. You'll have to do that well to do. Shirt me now all of that, but just like singing stuff. Okay. Yeah. Got it. Lift good real Downer, sir. Again, full them. Blue. Q. Roles. You guys. Sorry. 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The Path & the Process to Finding Our Calling When the Whole World is Pivoting

Don't Keep Your Day Job

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The Path & the Process to Finding Our Calling When the Whole World is Pivoting

"Hey guys it's Cathy Heller. Welcome back to another episode of. Don't keep your day job. I'm going to get right to it today I shared some thoughts yesterday. I've been doing this book club twice a week. I've been going live For about an hour reading some excerpts of the book and sharing whatever I feel is helpful with you right now in this time and I did a session yesterday which was part two of this book club by the way. This Book Club is free. You guys can join it a Kathy Dot com slash book club. And I want to get right to it because time is so precious right now and Hope these words fill you with something that makes you feel like you're being given a huge hug. That is what I am sending to you right. Now I'm here with you in this and it's a lot and Let me just get ready to the session. Let's listen welcome everybody so we are doing part to today of the Book Club. And I'm hoping that this is going to bring you support and I thought that we would start with a little bit of mindful ness right now. I think everyone could use it so I was looking. You know yesterday on Instagram and Doctor Joe Dispenser was talking about the nervous system and I I find it really fascinating the way that we are wired But I think it's really important to understand the way our bodies work the way our minds work with our bodies and the way that all plays into our immune system and one thing. That's interesting to know it's really important to now. Is that when we get scared when we feel anxious when we are reading the news and we feel things are chess. Start to tighten in. Our heart starts racing. What kicks on is the sympathetic nervous system. And we know that that takes a lot of energy from the body every you know the blood Russia's your extremities are pupils dilate. This is sort of taking us back to a time when and We were wired to run from a sabertooth tiger. And so everything kicks on and it takes tremendous toll on the body and so we have to understand that when we live in that place and we stay in that place. It's not good for our immune system and it keeps everything sort of like reading rubbing rubbing and it's burning burning tons and tons of energy and then What happens when we find a little bit of Ofcom? What happens when we find a little peace low break in the clouds? Is What kicks on. Is the Paris empathetic nervous system? And when that kicks on it allows for natural regeneration of Sowell's and a body's own healing system to start to come into play and it releases good endorphins into the body. There's actually in Immunoglobin and I know the hardware to say that gets released and so truly like this is hardcore science if you can kick on your para sympathetic nervous system three times a day for ten minutes a day. It has antiviral. Antibodies that actually get sent into your body so it protects you from getting a virus. That's what your body knows how to do. I'm not saying that it's going to be the only thing that you need to defend yourself but I am saying that it works to a certain extent and that it is very real that when we kick in the nerve the Para sympathetic nervous system. Our bodies are in a place where they are fending off virus. They are healing. The white blood cell count is doing what it needs to do and everything is actually moving in harmony. What that lets us know. Is that if we are finding that we are in a state of anxiety or fear. And it's it's we're living in that place. Not only. Is that so unpleasant. But we're we're not defending then. We're not having a defense. Our body's natural defense system than is not able to be there the way that we needed to be farming system so knowing that I think is fascinating and I think what we need to do is try to find a way to practiced coming into alignment with a little bit of mindfulness a little bit of peace so even if we can practice that ten minutes a day right now. That's really going to help. So let's do a little bit right now if you are sitting in a chair then let's just use something super simple Notice your sit bones in your chair and just notice which one you feel more like. Do you feel the right one more than the left. The left more than the right. There's no right or wrong answer. It's just to kind of bring you into the present and now see if you can like sink down further so that you feel them both equally there you go and just when we call up our senses whether it smell or touch hearing tasting it brings us into the moment and so a Lotta mindful practices have to do with either feeling are breath or walking meditation or tasting mindful eating. And so you could decide right now that you're going to pick one little thing and for like just a couple minutes a day to see if you can draw your attention into one of your five senses. Maybe you can decide that for the first thirty seconds of eating anything. You're going to eat today. You're just GONNA stop and taste it and notice even as you're putting the strawberry up to your lips notice what happens even before you tasted if you can start to feel your mouth like pooling with saliva and notice how like the gravitational pull of your body moves towards the strawberry and then maybe even stop for a second to be mindful of the interconnectedness of things and knowing that the strawberry started as a seed and it was planted in the ground and there was a human being who you never met and never got thank who worked the land and how the Sun and the moon and the wind and the rain for days on. And we're all going into this little strawberry. And then one day somebody came along and picked it off the vine and put it into a little container and then there was a truck driver who you never met. Who drove that out to the store and left their family for hours to go and bring this produce and then somebody met this person at the grocery store in the back alley and lifted all of this off off the truck and you could stop to be mindful of that for a moment and all. The mindfulness helps us to kick in the Paris. That nervous system. So it's not Jimbo Jabot Wacko. It's really very real and more than ever. We need to find stillness right now. They're so much suffering and there's so much anxiety and there's so much here that is so hard to hold and that's not our job like we're not able to hold all of it and they're so beyond that the only thing that we can try to do is to find a way To to be here right now as best as we can and that sometimes is GonNa look like crying your eyes out because you're really gonNA need to be mindful and be with yourself wherever you are and some of that's GonNa be about. Can I find new tools to find more equanimity and find more acceptance with what is as opposed to resisting it? When you're on a machine at the gym and you you feel pain. It's usually because there's a resistance. Right in resistance can build muscle but at the same time resistance is what causes the pain so when we resist what is? There's a lot of pain there but we accept it and we say okay. This is where it's at this is what's going on and I'm going to be with it Part of that means there's a lot of pain and it's very uncomfortable and there's a lot of things in life that are extremely uncomfortable that then lead to a tremendous amount of awakening and healing at the same time. So we don't really know what's happening but it does seem as though we've been put into cocoon and just like a caterpillar going through a Christmas and metamorphosis when the cocoon is open. I have no doubt that there will be a transformation and I have no doubt that some of it will be tremendously healing and it is very powerful and you know when you slow down it presses into all of your stuff so all. The shadow work all the things. You've you've survived that you may be never had a chance to go back and grieve. There's a lot of grieving right now. There's a lot that's being asked of us We don't like change as human beings but the only thing that is constant is changed. So there's a duality to that and and there's a dance here for all of us and so learning to sort of Find how to be a little bit more. Mindful in this time is really going to help us literally find a way to kick in our natural ability for immunities that can be coming from our own body by learning how to just sink a little bit deeper into the moment so I just wanted to share that with all of you. The very first time I went to a meditation I was so uncomfortable. I felt my whole body was like in a sunburn and I. I laughed and And I went back because I knew that there was something I was running from and I didn't WanNa be still. It's really hard to be still a friend of mine. She's a very famous. Mindfulness teacher and she says that when she goes into battered women shelters and she works with women. They can't stop moving. And it makes a Lotta sense because when we've been through trauma we don't really WanNa sit with it for very good reason. It's it's a coping skill. Thank God we are very brilliant. And we're very we're survivors and so we learned to move so we don't have to feel but right now we're all being asked to feel and on top of being asked to be still in field. There's a lot to feel. That's very overwhelming very scary. And it's a little bit of a roller coaster. But what I'm suggesting. Is that if we can spend a few minutes every day and just be in this exact moment tasting strawberry feeling your feet. If you decide to do a walking meditation. It could literally be as easy as like twenty seconds day. You could say to yourself every time I walked to the French. I'm GONNA use that as a walking meditation and from wherever I am to the Fridge. Just for those twelve seconds. I'm GonNa Notice the heel of my foot the ball on my foot the heel my foot the ball on my foot the heel my foot the ball I vote. I'm telling you that these baby baby practices will make a huge difference and you might come to find that there is something absolutely beautiful waiting for you in the present moment all right. Let's dive into Chapter Two. And and let's see what beautiful things might be here so I'm going to read a little bit from chapter. Two which is called the path and the process and at the beginning is a quote from Mary. Oliver who Passed away not too long ago. One of the most brilliant poets writers and she says listen. Are you breathing? Just a little and calling it a life and before. I go on I just WANNA say Another gift that's possibly in the middle of this. Big Old pile of darkness is Is the awakening. You know. I think that what we're going to see is that there's some businesses that don't make it and some of them are going to have to learn to pivot and there are some things that we were once doing that. We won't be able to go back to and one of the question that a friend of mine asked me this morning is if something doesn't make it. Is it possible that there was something about it? That wasn't essential or that wasn't one hundred percent in alignment or that wasn't for the highest good of the person who is making it or the people who were receiving it which is a really fascinating question and I think we're all going to be asked to show up in a way. Now where what we do is essential. What we do is filled with empathy. What we do is in alignment with our souls and the more that we create a life from that place and a business from that place we will find that those things sustain so sustainability goes far beyond our carbon footprint but also in terms of we what we do in relationship to how we do and and what we choose to show up for. So I think that quote is amazing. Listen are you reading? Just a little and calling a life. So let's read on. Let me begin with the most basic and important of all truths your presence on planet. Earth is a serious matter you are worthy and were created to enjoy every gift at this world has to offer as my friend. The illustrator podcastone. Andy J pizza says people love diamonds because they are rare. But what's more rare than an individual whether you believe in God or science your DNA and the experiences you've had make you the most rare thing on the planet there never was never will be another you. Your existence is the only proof we need that there is something only you can share with the world. Something which will make it more whole and more beautiful. I bet you opened this book because there is something gnawing at you. It's not that you don't feel like you're enough apart of you has always known you're capable of so much but you're fed up with playing small or setting it out. You WanNa live up to your potential and when you don't well I suspect that's anxiety creeps in there's a mission born inside you. That is so big and so brilliant that your only option is to live up to that potential or spend the rest of your days in a wasteland of doubt and despair when you hear that inner wisdom whisper. You are here to do something great. Listen up you're about to be led to the exact opportunities that will empower you to share your unique talents with the world. Most people who are not excited to wake up every day usually do not grasp the breath and wealth of possibilities. Perhaps you were told. Your dream was not reasonable or you. Lack strategies to bring it to fruition. I want this book to help with all of that. Let's excavate the old ideas around who you are. Let's explore what turns you on. What brings you joy what you WANNA learn. Let's start shifting your priorities towards what you want more of in this lifetime more you let things flow into your ecosystem whether it's money or love or friends or creativity the more of it you have to share the more you make your well being a priority. The more you can serve others the happier you are the more you give others permission to do. Whatever makes them happy to because ultimately we're here to serve the more you have the more generous you can be. The world needs more people who radiate good feelings who make the things that they were put here to make who live in a state of abundance an intern inspire others to reach for the stars. True feelings of joy are contagious and give others permission to follow their own bliss by aspiring to become more conscious versions of ourselves and acting toward our highest potential. We show up in better and truer form for our families and friends. Once we begin to understand that how we show up in our one area of our lives is how we show up in all areas of our lives. Then we can begin working toward a more holistic and integrated state of purpose success and happiness. This flow state is where we feel powerful and an alignment whether in a boardroom or a bedroom on our laptop or the lap of a friend David sacks is an incredible writer who shared the simple but powerful idea. Make Your Life in art. Ask yourself every morning. How can I serve the world? How can I make a difference for another person? Keep leaning into whatever makes you feel more you in the moment as you align with your higher self and have the courage to walk toward whatever's whispering to you doors will open and you will connect with people who need your gifts you are constantly being led to wear your needed and what will bring you the most joy you can also do what you love and get paid for it not only that but you can get paid very well but you need to take action. Lots of inspired action. This book will give you plenty of ideas on what action to take so. Let's get started. The first step in this process is acknowledging the darkness. There might be a little or there might be a lot but it is okay to admit that you are not fine. Maybe something is missing from your life. Maybe you don't enjoy it as much as you want you. Maybe you felt this way for a while especially when it comes to your profession. Starting with the darkness might mean saying. I'm not okay with this nine to five and I have to accept that I'm not fine and the reason I'm still sitting at this desk is because I keep telling myself that I'm not good enough or that. There's nothing else I can do. We live the lives were willing to tolerate. Change is a really scary prospect so a lot of people. Just keep telling themselves that they are okay. Okay to not be okay but it takes tremendous guts to let your feelings be okay if you can truly recognize that you're not living your best life and you deserve to. You will start the Real Work Sarah Night. Bestselling author of the life. Changing magic of not giving an F. has a method. She created for transforming feelings of dissatisfaction and overwhelmed into something tangible to be changed. The first thing you have to do is set a goal. She said on my podcast. A goal worth setting is your response to two questions one. What's wrong with my life? And to why the internal conversation might look like this. What's wrong with my life? All I don't get to spend enough time with my kids. Why because I can't seem to get out of work on time your goal then would be to get out of work on time says Sarah now. How were you able to do that? Break the Gold Down. It's a small manageable chunks and hack away at that goal one chunk at a time. Our internal work is the first ocean to cross. It starts with the miracle of believing that we are worthy. It's about letting go of the shame doubts that ask. Who Am I to have that? Who Am I to do that? You will need the courage to potentially have your heartbroken. We tell ourselves that we don't want things or experiences because we don't WanNa feel inadequate or get rejected. You will learn to be okay with yourself even if someone doesn't like your creation or you're not happy with your first try. You're going to cultivate the courage to recognize that you don't have to be perfect accepting the processes part of knowing that you're worth it now. Here's the cool thing. It's actually quite simple to get to your true destiny. Let's say for example. You always love Yoga. You start going more regularly and you sign up for a teacher training program where you meet a new friend. She tells you about a studio in Costa Rica and you plan a trip together. Once you arrive you take an afternoon course of. Rakia where you realize. This is where you want to focus your energy. This is the power of process. Or maybe you love talking about movie plots. You'd love to get paid to talk about movies all day. You start with a commitment to post a youtube video reviewing plot twists every week the momentum of the weekly video stirs of new ideas. You're getting excited about the new format for reaching a slowly growing audience. You launch a podcast and then evening events were movie fans in come together in person. Now you're making money talking about movies all day. This is the magic of stepping into the flow. We can call it the flow the process the current or the spiritual technology at play. What matters most is that you feel a sense of exploration that suggests through inspiration or chance encounters that you are on the right path. You might find yourself saying. I don't know why maybe I should do this as life leads you. You can stop stressing about what happens. Next you surrender the how by staying aligned with the opportunities or ideas that most excite you and things start to line up enthusiasm lights up in the brain more than anything else. Choose the path that you are most enthusiastic about encourages author Danielle. Laporte enthusiasm is a heightened state of consciousness enthusiasm actually vibrates at a higher level than happiness or interest or contentment. Clarity will follow action. We get clues what to do next at every stage of the process. No one knows how the path will evolve. You learn to trust your intuition and move toward what feels good where people are excited about your work and where you send a greater opportunities to come just like a scavenger hunt. You'll receive clues each step of the way that will eventually lead to your purpose. Happiness is all about purpose as Bennie Friedman lecturer and inspirational educator as we lean into how we contribute to the planet. We develop a deep sense of contentment. Which has the power to change our relationships. We get meaning from giving part of ourselves to others and making a sacrifice for the betterment of others. We have to take this concept of purpose off its pedestal and start interacting with it in our everyday lives stopping purpose with a capital p start looking for purpose and meaning where it already exists where you can build more of it. Bring these concepts back down to earth and brush off the pressure that we need one all defining purpose purpose might be making a phone call taking an extra moment to connect with a colleague or reframing self-defeating idea about our work. I personally feel more energized than I ever have in my entire life because I choose to be of service every single day. There's a feeling beyond happy. That's on the other side of every situation that pushes you to become more and serve the world. I'm obsessed with the climb. I crave that feeling of making the world better expressing myself but it takes patience to develop recognize. You're calling we live in a dangerous time because we have lost reverence for the long game. We've lost the understanding that everything happens over time and we are impatient when it comes to the journey you WanNa know something. Google you want something delivered order it. We're talking about your life's work. Think of the greatest novels you've ever Read Paulo. Queloz the alchemist. Or Jack Kerouac on the road. You have to take the journey. Emily Esfahani Smith was on the podcast and she explained that only one third of people innately know what they're meant to do and two thirds of the world are on a journey to figure out what that is what we tend to do is label anything other than relatively instantaneous. Success as a failure. Most of us don't figure out our life's work on the first try but it's that brave first step that leads you their creative people are always waiting for the ferry art mother to show up there waiting for. Hagrid to tell them that they're actually a wizard. I always say look. Haggard is not coming said Andy J pizza. You have to look in the mirror and figure out what kind of magic you've got. We have this very art mother mentality because in the past there were hundreds of talent scouts and agents who were looking for people with untapped potential. These gatekeepers realized that they didn't have to expend resources on scouts. As creative industry change the talent rises to the top on the Internet. Now it is not a meritocracy. It is not a perfect thing but if someone proves that can build an audience then they're a good bet. There's no one out there looking for untapped potential anymore. What I suggest is your own. Hagrid in today's creative landscape. Choose when you're ready to start. Okay I'm GONNA stop there. That is powerful stuff. I mean those are some of the biggest things that I learned on my own journey and then In the rest of the Chapter I went on to share a story of one of our listeners. To me MOC on Jolo was one to me if anybody remembers. She's a beautiful woman. She lives in London. She grew up in Nigeria and She was listening to the podcast. And we wound up doing some of these podcast listeners. Success Stories and she was of them and her story is pretty incredible because he or she is living in London born and raised in Nigeria. And she was working A pretty decent desk job but something she really didn't feel was lighting her up. She started listening to the podcast and she thought. I don't WanNa work at my job anymore. I WANNA start over but I need the money. And what do I do? And the thing that she liked doing that she didn't have a degree in was cooking and she liked making making Nigerian food and she was a Vegan and so she she was making this Vegan Nigerian food and the main ingredient was plantations so she started making these dishes and she was listening and she was like what action could she take and she wound up going to a couple restaurants and saying. Can I do like pop up evening where I would make Nigerian food for your customers? And a few people said sure and she did it and it was a success and she was like what the next thing I could do. And My podcast really inspired are and she was like. I'm just GONNA take messy action. And she wound up. Making this Nigerian cookbook. Is she called the Vegan Nigerian? And she made it an e book because she didn't even want to wait until she got a publishing deal. And would you believe in three months? She had sold eighty thousand euros worth which is about eighty thousand dollars. More or less of this cookbook. And she had a released small following and she was able to transition into doing that full-time and it's a cool story but Whoopie Goldberg was following along and saw her using this Hashtag Vegan. Nigerian and and then Whoopi Goldberg was playing a show in London and reached out and said could you come DMT her. Could you come make dinner for my friends. One of Nigerian. We thought that'd be really cool. So she's like okay and she was like really nervous and intimidated and she went and brought them food and then They were really sweet. They're like why don't you stay and have dinner with us? And so she did and little by little. She built this beautiful following for people who are interested in Vegan Nigerian food and I tell that story in this chapter and then the next story I tell him the chapter is about Jonathan Adler who Like a lot of us right now. He was struggling. He got fired and he was fired so many times and he was like what am I going to do? He tells his whole story of. Oh I think I wanNA do some pottery. And but I don't know how and he was told he was never really gonNa make it in pottery and his his art teacher had said. Nah that's not really your thing and here. He was like fired from like the seven job in a row and needed to make something work and he wound up making a few pots and calling somebody. Barney's and the guy at Barney's came over his floor walkup and gave him some constructive. Feedback took the feedback and he made the next thing and then after making some pottery that was working in selling it. Barney's he took a trip to Peru and He wound up meeting this beautiful Family that makes their own threads and he was like well. Maybe I could make something other than pottery. Maybe I could make pillows. And he started to do that and then he realized well maybe I just love design in general and so he followed that whisper and then started making furniture and clocks and candles and then started designing hotels and and I just find it so fascinating that when we step back and we look at people who we admire. We look at people who are successful. We think that it started just like that. And we forget that they went through a journey of sort of looking for clues. Like I say in this chapter. It's like a scavenger hunt. This is how the magic works but in order for us to get led to that thing that's ultimately that thing. That really feels like what we're meant to do. In the world we have to be willing to be messy. We have to be willing to take a few stabs at it and then we have to be willing to listen to what's coming in from the inner guidance and listen to what's coming in from the outer what do people need. And what is the world responding to? Where IS THE PROBLEM? I can solve. What do I really like? And that takes having Sort of this adventurer spirit and that's part of what we're talking about in this chapter what's also going on in this chapter is we're talking about worthiness a lot of times. We continue to do things we don't want to do because we do live the lives that we're willing to tolerate living and I think for a lot of people right now. It feels so awful and so scary and so much of it for me to just so much of it just feels like Oh God like there's another part of it where it's like. This question is being brought to the surface. Which is does that really make you? Happy like the routine. You had how you spent your time what you were doing now that that routine is different you look back. What parts of it do you want back which parts of it were not really serving you or the world to the highest degree. And what would you want it to be now if you could lean into something that does more aligned and then the worthiness shows up. I think a lot of people don't feel worthy of what they really dream of when we're children what happens is it's not only what's taught. It's what's caught so if your parents modeled for you they may be said to you. You can do whatever you want. But maybe the way that they felt about themselves was that that wasn't true for them. And so you saw a person who tolerated being treated poorly or tolerated living in in a way. That wasn't an alignment. And so maybe the real message that you were taught was growing up means sacrificing yourself or being an adult means putting what you love on hold or if you make money you become a jerk so you shouldn't or people like us are not worthy of having more or who do you think you are to have that and that's some of what. I'm talking about in this beginning. Part OF CHAPTER TWO IS. What is the darkness? That's there it starts by saying. I'm not okay. I think a lot of people don't want to do that. And one of the most common things is. I'm fine. It's fine whatever it's fine but what does that really mean. Is that a defense or is it really fine or is it that you've surrendered because there's a learned helplessness? Because you've just assumed there's no way I could actually have fulfillment so just fine. It'll be just fine but is it really fine. Because most people get to the end of their life and then the greatest regret most people have is. I didn't live life on my terms and it's either because I gave up trying or I didn't ever feel like it was possible where I didn't feel I was worthy now. Let's talk about the possibilities okay. I just interviewed two beautiful people from my podcast. That own incredible clothing line called Christie Don husband and wife. They're awesome. You're GonNa hear the episode soon and I asked her on the podcast. How is the business doing right now? Not a month ago not six months ago but now in the midst of what's happening and they they shared with me that this past week right now right now in the middle of everything. They sold twelve hundred dresses. And that's amazing. Okay so why am I bringing it up because we we believe the story we tell ourselves and right now? A lot of people are telling themselves the story that what they want is not possible that they've lost anything that they had even if it wasn't what they wanted at least it was what was working and nothing else as possible now. That story is not true and in fact Tamara Mellon who created a company called Jimmy Choo when she was on the podcast two years ago. She said two years ago that she had moved her business online because she realized that if she was selling these shoes that were eight hundred. Nine hundred thousand box. She had to do that because the kind of shoes she sold was worth it and then she had to pay rent so there had to be a certain amount of money going to Nordstrom bloomingdale's wherever she was selling the show and she realized she could sell the shoe for less and make the same quality shoe if she put it on line and I think that that is amazing and now there's so many people who are saying what do I do and a couple of weeks ago. My husband said to me before all this stuff really like shook out for us before we were really feeling it apple weeks ago. He's like we. He brought in three catalogs. That were like this big from the mailbox and he said at what point. Is this going to stop? This is not okay. Like how can people be spending this much money and this much waste on catalogs? Like what is this? This is not good and I said it is such a joke. We throw them away. It's not like that's GonNa make me by a thing it's GonNa stop and so to think about the pivot of utilizing. The online space is such a great question for us all to be asking and what? I've seen you guys and we talk about this in this chapter. Is Everybody's waiting for somebody to come along and rescue them? You know you WanNa meet Clive Davis and he hears you sing in the back of a church and you get your big break but the big break. It's waiting for you. What I see going on in the world what I've always been saying and I see it now. Of course it's just being given the spotlight. Is We have an empathy problem. We have an intimacy problem. We are being asked to show up. We are being asked to connect. It's amazing how the social distancing is what we are needing to do and yet that is highlighting for us. How much we need one. Another and how much we affect one. Another and how everything is contagious. Our energy is contagious. More than anything else. That's always contagious right. Even when there's no virus your energy is felt. Your energy is contagious. Oprah said I went to her super soul Sunday taping last year and she said I have a sign in my office that says be responsible for the energy. Bring in this room because it is contagious. So we are looking at the interconnectedness of things. The intimacy of all of us the empathy that we need to embrace and our job fully is to figure out how to show up for a few people and make things for ourselves for our friends that bring value that that feel essential and in order to bring things in the world that feel essential right now. We have to ask ourselves what is essential to me and we have to get a tuned to the frequency of our heart. So we can tune into the frequency of other people and then start to share that. And when you start to look at how you can create community online. It is beautiful. It is breathtaking and it doesn't have to be perfect. People would rather just get to be intimate with you. It's the presence it's the connection and in order for you to give them the greatest most beautiful drink to drink from. WanNa drink from your heart. They want you to just be there. And that's where anchoring yourself in a little bit of mindfulness a few moments a day is GonNa really help you so when you're showing up with somebody else. There's a wait to the eye contact. There's a wait to the resonance and there's an openness and a discovery of like what's here between us right now. What might get created in this conversation that we'd both weren't planning on 'cause we didn't come with an agenda that magic and right now there's an incredible opportunity to listen and to connect and to create things that are essential and so. I'm on a rollercoaster just like you are I have moments right now. I start to feel really spun out and really stressed out and released scared and then I have moments where I'm really sitting here with what's showing up and what's coming here and what what's here for me to learn. And what's the magic in this right now and I know that that's triggering for people to even hear that there might be something beautiful and there might be an awakening in the death. There is a grieving right. Now that's going on and we have to be honest with that too. There's a grieving there is grieving. And there's a way to that and there's a grieving for lots of reasons. People are literally passing away. And then there's a grieving of businesses. There's a grieving and to not tune into that would be weird and I mean that's not mindful at the same time often when you look at a seed in order for there to be new life. There's a breaking down and then there's a rising up so right now we're in this breakdown in order to give way to the birth of something else so we need to come home to being more in tune with ourselves with our sorrow with our possibility with each other. And so my question to you is what comes up for you when you think about if you knew you were worthy. What would you WANNA be creating? If you looked at the question you know what is essential for me when all is stripped away. What do I absolutely need? You might say I need meditation. You might say I need to take a walk. You might say when all stripped away I knew music you might say when all is stripped away. I need friendship when all is stripped away. I need to make things. That's a great question because in there might be the answer to what is essential. Essential businesses are open right now. I think it's a good thing to look at because I think what's going to make it through. This is us all figuring out what are the essential businesses. And that's another way of saying what are the essential ways that I served the world. And maybe there's A. There's a birth to things that feel more in alignment and more essential for all of us that will sustain themselves because they're the things that everybody needs more than anything else and then the question is how do we start creating those and their solman incredible tools to doing that. I hope that gave you guys some good food for thought here. Are the takeaways number one. Your presence on planet earth is a serious matter. You're here for a reason. We need you number two. The world needs people. Who Do what makes them most happy number? Three we live the lights. Were willing to tolerate number. There is always room for you. To shine number five surrender the how by staying align with the opportunities or ideas that most excite you once you step into this current of life things start to line up number six start with acknowledging the darkness. That's there it's okay to admit you're not okay. Number seven people don't need perfection. They want your presence and your connection. They want you to be there for them. This time and number eight ask yourself what is essential for me when everything is stripped away. What do I need okay? We're GONNA celebrate your wins Janna posted in our facebook group. And she said I took a leap and held an online networking event for a few women. I kept it small hoping to keep it intimate and valuable for them. It feels great to have connected women and share our points on adapting to changes. I'm so thankful for the book. Don't keep your day job. It was the best gift I ever received. Because it inspired me to take this leap Janna. That's so awesome. I love that you made yourself available. Raise your hand to show out and you create this beautiful group based on intimacy and connection. You're putting so much good in the world and you're helping these women just by providing space for them to feel seen and heard and to know that they're not alone in this time. I'm so glad that my book gave you that nudge. Take action like this so please keep us posted on where it takes you and the friendships that you build all right. Here's another wind. You Gall said like many across the globe. I've been home bound. Because the corona virus outbreak as fate would have it march twentieth was my birthday and because I could neither go nor hang out with my friends. It was a huge bummer. I always wanted to do something memorable and different on this day. So given the circumstances I indulge in art and drew a self portrait. I'm new arts was quite a task to draw my own self like that but by the end of it I was pretty happy with what I drew and it made the day a tad bit more special for me because it made me look at myself differently so I guess that's a win. You go first of all. I just want to say happy belated birthday. I'm so sorry you had to spend it in quarantine but I'm proud of you because it sounds like you chose to make the most of it you let yourself explore a new interest and look at where it leads you now you have this newfound perspective of who you are and the artistic gifts inside of you. I hope that you continue to let yourself follow these little voices of wonder and curiosity. And I'm so excited about how you're going to evolve from all this. Let us know where this takes you and hopefully when things are back to normal you can have a full-on in-person birthday celebration. Because you deserve it. If you guys have a win you want to celebrate. You want us to share. You can post it in the. 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 OAM 49  What is Justice? (Part 2)  Interview with Christian Philosopher, Phillip Soen

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OAM 49 What is Justice? (Part 2) Interview with Christian Philosopher, Phillip Soen

"The time on the PODCAST, you can argue the injustices occur, but it's actually quite complicated and sophisticated work, and it's GonNa take a lot longer than five minutes on Youtube in a bowl of popcorn actually do. This is the one accord ministry pack cans Meteo. Be One. Device. Dividend with Democrats. Should. Be. I can't. Think. The body of Christ. A cooler the. What is true justice and what does that look like thank you for joining us for part two of our discussion with special guests. Phil Sewin-, as we continue to answer that question. So moving with this justice in adding another layer to it. There's a lot of talk about systematic racism right now. So I mean this this can be folded into being a part of justice because if there's The. By definition of there's a system that set up against a certain image bears of Christ's. That wouldn't be. Right. Wouldn't be rightness or correctness So there there is this issue. So. Can you relate justice discussion in? Is there such thing is is white. Justice. Yes. That's a great. Question. In the first part of the question if I understood correctly has to do with like. I mean, what? What are we even mean by Systematics A systematic racism or or byte just it's. In synthetic racism is it's It's I I would I would start with the idea of racism I. Think we're I think we're all pretty much. AGREED IT racism it's Either a belief that one people group is inferior. So there's you can keep a practice racists miserable belief in you can practice it is a type of action anyone would act unjustly toward one people grew. Or not okay on the basis that they believe that people in carrier. Okay. So that that's pretty season. Now, the question is, what's it would systematic racism In this is actually. It's kind of ambiguous like what do we mean by racism but this is what I think. I. Think People mean when we talk about racism that the idea system has to do with bill legal expression itself the legal the legal code has been set up. In so When. The claim autistic racism as criticism against. The the. Legal System. Is Extremely. Revolutionary. So when you know when the? The defunding police. Chance, in move this. happening. It wasn't a discussion about it wasn't saying, Hey, there are unjust practitioners within the police. No it was immediately turned into. No, this is evidence of. Racism. So I mean, what? What are they cleaning? Claiming that the system of American legal procedure itself has been designed to favor one people grew in not another. That's pretty that's huge. Now it's it. It it's not just a criticism about certain police officers. It's a claim about the very ideals in which the entire legal system has been. articulated. So. There's that and and I, we could talk about that all day but there's plenty of other news outlets doing it well, in fact it at this point, I would recommend if if you've never listened to or read any of his books, Thomas Sowell accidentally intelligently about this topic. Much for the night, I can't. Sleep him. But let's talk about the idea of. Jack. So, if there could be something white assistant system or by Justice Woman that need. To mean that like I just said that the American legal system is design to make sure particularly in this case, black African Americans are never gonNA come out on top. They're never gonNA they're never gonNA win a case. They're always going to be a more more unjustly treated always getting punished more severely. That's a pretty strong claim. Here, here's here's my problem. Here's here's my problem with it. Anyway. First of all. If justice is what I'm saying if justice is. More order than what justice actually is justice is actually an objective thing. It's not this imaginary thing like Unicorns or Pegasus right it's it's a real feat. Of Reality. Yeah it's a real feature reality. Therefore, it's not. It's not a cultural possession. White people cannot own. Justice any more than than than Chinese people can mess ethical truths right there's there's no such thing as the culture that would only a transcendental truth which what a parking. There's no such thing as a culture that would own. Trans. Transit State, where again for me transcendent. Truth transcendental truth. For my theologians, I think that's A. Good phrase right there. I say this. It's possible. It's possible to say one or two things and I think these are fair criticisms of American justice you can. You can either say. That there certain practitioners of justice. Right. There are certain police in that really aren't as competent is occupied venit in stopping there in in the first flicks that that's that's a fair criticism. And I think there can be reformed there or even stayed there are injustices in the system. Okay that there are certain rules and procedures have been put in place that have yet not yet accounted for the full complexity of society. But. I I think to make the claim that if the American legal system is itself unjust. It's pretty radical it would take some real. a lot more thoughtful argument to put in place than down here. So. I think the argument that people were With with present would be. Looking at social media, you know you're going to pick and choose. Certain. Instances where. the displacing the result of his saying to be. Unfair you know you have to two of the same crime. receiving two different punishments. You have two. Incidents. of the same caliber but how a different result. And that's how that's how people will present the case for that. American. Injustice. Yeah. I mean I don't WanNa be misheard like I I. I would definitely say there are as injustices and they occur. And there are even fallible. Injustice. Judgements that happened within the legal system. I'm not I'm not prepared to say to the American justice system is. level. But what but my I guess what? I, what I would criticise. People are quick to make judgments based on very limited information. A. Like John. justice legal system legal systems are very complicated and it's an extremely complicated to to try to even create rules for. implement. Correct legal. principles. And I, think if you can begin to appreciate this, you can actually begin to appreciate the complexity of work that happens in law. I tried this even just last week where I sat down and said okay. What are the most important legal principles that ought to be in place for Justice Society and I came up with about like four or five you know? Life ought to be preserved and not taken without cause. Evil men ought to be punished. Good men ought to be rewarded. Every person ought to act in a way that corresponds with their abilities. And you can come up with all those kind of propositions. When you start to go. Okay. What happens when I kill somebody let let you take the the idea of capital punishment what happens if by say this I deserve to die when now I'm violating my principle that is lifelock out reserved. So the challenge I'm getting at is is as you begin to try to work out how justice system would even work in the real world you have to you have to be able to create principles. that. You agree upon a beach just but then apply them in such a way that they don't contradict. and. And and And that's where I mean if we return to the that something like the black lives matter. Rioting and looting. Will of okay. Who Ever is doing this Friday looting they decided that. Police retaliates is. Yeah I agree with that. But you can't you can't press one. One proposition at the expensive thing but I believe I destroy a whole car lot to prove angry. So. I guess what I'm getting at is is you can aren't you the injustices occur. But it's actually quite complicated and sophisticated work, and it's going to take a lot longer than five minutes on Youtube in a bowl of popcorn actually do. So. Pulling this out because I think this is important because you mentioned the this transcends transcendental truth. And I. Let me get you to define what that is. What is this? What is the transcendent transcendental truth? Well. That's. A really good question Basically is. Truth is concerned. Simple truth is in proposition corresponds to reality. To any any statement any sentence that says something like there's a water in front of me. That statement specifies the conditions for what would make that state insur false. If there's not a cup of water in front of me, that's instances faults. That's true. Now what I mean by trying to. I mean, they're negatively it's non it's non physical. It's non incurable. It's it's not something I can hey touch for measure with Mike accented chances in fact I go farther and say. Something that's transcended ultimately. Ultimately derived into shame by the being about shots. So that'd be my definition. So. Since that. Since, it derives from the being of guy. How is it that? I'm going to read this scripture to see how is it? Can we as humans work out this thing called justice since his deriving from a transit transcendental being in being guide, which means he's unmovable unshakable. He he's he's not going anywhere. Romans. Enrollments thirteen when it's speaking of government. It says that First Team Chapter I mean chapter thirteen verse one everyone must admit to the governing authorities for there's no authority except from God and does that exist are instituted by guy so then the one who resist the authority is opposing God's command and those who oppose it will bring judgment on themselves for rulers are not a terror to good conduct but too bad. So, right there is says their rulers are not a terror good conduct, but to bay it. So those are the words that everyone is fighting over and everyone has different dif-, different definition. How do we know what is good? And what would be bad to know what to fight against it? That I mean you're getting once again, you're getting at the heart install of a really where justice is justice right moral order. The very thing we need to be thinking about is these these good moral questions In in that kind of more reflection is going to be necessary if you're gonNA. If. You'RE GONNA be aimed justly but even if you're gonNA prosecute anything with any spirit conviction. At that gets the broader question of of of moral knowledge in you know we can do a whole lot. One but. I think what you're doing is you're getting at the you're getting at the heart and soul of what it means to do. Just. And Of course, you know you you had to bring out. The the atom bomb of an accidental passage for us. But I mean. Yeah. I mean I wanted to bring that up because it lets us see that. It's not that easy to just shoot off this quick judgment. On thing we're going to decide what's good or what's bad. First of all, we need to know everything we need to know every. Everything even once we know everything there's still. You're still a chance that we still may be wrong on call him. What's good. WHAT'S BAD Because we're falling humans in the Bible Declares Enrollment Street and said there's no one that does what's righteous not one. So is just is just this. I mean I think some things we can clearly see as we spoke out last in our live facebook that there were things that were done. laws that were passed since we're talking about government say there they shouldn't be a charity good but bad. But. They were a terror to just a image bear as. An in American history. So those type of things that. We included bounce up against the word of God to show that. Hey. This is not right because it's clearly up against the word of God and this is wrong. But if it's not something that clear, it's a judgment call that we're making own situations and we're saying that that one was wrong in this would have been good without knowing everything I think that's hard to do what we call justice whether it's in a court. Omar. In a public opinion. Yep. Yep. America America's pretty you know is a I'm not sure what's going on in America right now we all just need to make sure we cling to Jesus Christ. It's. It's a I. BELIEVE IT'S A. It's a time in society. Guide is revealing what's in the heart of man. So in order for us to see what's in the heart of us. We. Better be clinging Jesus Christ because these times will make something come out of you to reveal to you who you truly are and I think that's what we're seeing in the world today. What's going on? We have the police, we have riots. Is it possible is it possible to make this world a place? Yes good question eight can we make the world into adjust place and I'd say to get question because. If we're only waking up in the morning. Feeling anger and resentment embitter knits that the world is not away when be. Only, doing that we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA become very angry people. The asks the question. Can we make the world into adjust place is a good. It's a good question. It is step forward. At Internet into a I I'd say, no. In the sense that. We weaken wheezing vigorous. Outright, we can mean something like the American government. It needs like the American government or human citizens can. So I would say find Lard what you see with left this media is the media is pushing doctrine that yes the government can make the world a better place if you only if year to. Liberal doctrines that we find favorable. If you do that, then the can be better place. With. With with White, you see it look what I see in media as a lot of a lot of. Very, very radical. Radical, kind of. A political fever. You know it's it's it's it's. Revolution. It's it's. But but it's also you talkin you what? Mace what makes a Democratic Socialism. So attractive to many people is it's very easy. You token promise is a Utopian promise that says if few here to this. System. Up political belief, we're going to bring in the New Orleans Acqua so In that I would say I think history is already proven over and over again that's a false promise. So we need the American government. Or government in general. Even like America right now they're pretty unpopular. But. To bring about the just world, I'd say, no. The other. The other spectrum in this goes this goes closer to that sensitive right in political truck. Stretch but the right, the right tends to say something like or you know the the just American citizen they can bring the. New. World. Behave narrowly and justly, and we all do it together and we do it at the same time basically we'll bring in the justice society in that kind of teaching I hear from. From. Like. I'll say with all nightmarish in criticism. Censure hero and Jordan. Peterson. You know for all the good that they had to say about what it means to be a good moral person. At the end of the day, their doctrines and turning into if we all just a morally, we humans could bring in the judge or world. SPENC- now, let's let's also a token hatred. The only way we can bring just world world is just more world is if we means every. Responsible. Moral agent. Okay. Stuck every responsible agent. Well, it basically will host three it was down to actually I'd say four. The guy is the ultimate agent of justice in without God I mean. This can happen. But. Guy Got us off the exclusive agent of justice. So we don't arms. We also do have the government. You just read in Romans Thirteen. The government is instituted for more order by God it doesn't mean they acted in infallibly. Pulse Magnus and what ordered the rate of Niro. Even. To argue like some of my professors do. Near actually wasn't doing a lot of bad things in. So halden it now. In a popular view of near was when said, well, that's outright either because. The Caesar's headache history of indulgence in injustice. So this is not something new that that that that the rule of Roman sees this would lead to tyranny. So. You know that's important. Even mind that. Knew. If there is such thing as evil moral people in government and yet still ten these words if the divinely instituted Again government is a part of the program. But? It's not the exclusive part of the program because God has given. The church the Church also has place erode the fulfil in his in transitioning the world from India to us. So. I would say it's I mean this this Christian vision. Is really important for us to be talking about because it's really easy to get wrapped up in saying. You know like the right. Now, we just need to be good in more responsible or art like the left and. We need to get the right policies in place. Now let's per week. We have honor God here and is placed as the ultimate aged that's going to bring. Justice about, and then we also have to realize our role in cooperating with the divine plan at s as members of the Church so. It may not sound sexy or feeling, but that's the Gospel. That's GONNA see. Actual Justice Yes. So in order for actual justice to happen what it sounds like. Is I the first criteria? Is that every human being I has to be a Christian. Because we're saying is starting with guy so. And then going to go to government. So if every human being is not being led by guy who is the just person that how could we have a just society? Word. To urge will just is gonNA happen when seeing is is still with. Complete. Gut. He has certainly complete justice. But. Would you would you are you? Would you maintain greg that There's a place for. The partial, a partial implementation of justice. Even you know we're we're we're in the week carriers like Jesus says. Parents exist alongside has since at least your charms. Yeah. So. Yeah I mean yeah. I. Believe there is a there a way for a partial sense I mean for, for example, if If I'm a Christian and I was wrongfully accused of something. And End Up going to a judge. WHO also happens? To Be Christian. In this in this evil world, God is connected to people for Justice, to be rendered. In case I even if even if it's not that case where not to Christians the just saying. can so call still digesting in quotations because I think that that that's A. That's a lot to be weeded out. What is the thing that needs to be done a lot of us. Claim to know the just thing but we don't really know what's the just thing that needs to be done because the just thing is, is GonNa come from God and what this guy want rendered at this moment for this person, not just what do we have in place by law or what do we have in place that we can just go by but what does guys got us alternate standard, the transit transcendental being of this what does guy want rendered in this situation? In order for that to happen, we have to be connected to the person who hose justice. This is just the same for a parent in a house Oh a a kid can do something wrong at school so. By. Natural. By humans USA, the cause and effect is to reprimand the kids to punish the kids but a parent connected to Guy Guy can show this parent at this time. Instead, of Europe, amending them, I want you to show them grace and take them to the ice cream shop that doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense but if God is rendering his action that he's going to cost to happen for that person what he wants to happen by action that he gave you to perform for that person. So. That's what I'm saying that what what we call the just thing to do. The arguments are from like we I thought it off a bunch upset subjective. Theories and thence danced people have towards different things in life and in the world. There's a chasm between got in man that chasm that space that opening is filled with sin but God is holy and he made man in his image the due to Adam sin in the garden man fell away from guy and not only Adam but we all have seen in fallen short of the glory of Guy. Natural Law at work that when you do wrong, you get punished for your own. When you commit a crime, you get sentenced by Judge for your crimes in the same manner they as a spiritual law at work we do Rome. When you sin against guys, you receive hail but there's a payment for us doing wrong got sent his son to die for us. It was by his Grace Grace itches getting something that we do not deserve is by his. Grace through fate is not from ourself. It's a gift from God. There's nothing that I can do. There's nothing that you can do that. We can make ourselves safe. The only thing that we can do is to admit we are sinners humble ourselves before God stop playing God and now own life, and then we will confess with our mouth Jesus is Lord and we will believe in out heart that Guy Reese Christ from the dead and you will be safe. So I'm wondering I was looking for this and I wanna read it in every talk about actual justice. I can kind of take that from revelation. Sixteen. When they said Ohio how long sovereign lower holy true until you just it happens on earth and advance our blood. Is that a scripture that can kind of go along with? The wait for justice. I ask perfect I. Think I think that That's beautiful in. I think that's what. It's easy to lose sight of when you watch when you watch too much of the news is this is the world really wants to become. Number. One out elise that guy was just anyway but to that God listen if he is just he's not powerful enough the inflammation. But I think God. Got In his word is teaching is quite contrary when that got is jealous in I got his capable of meeting out justice and and part of I think the crucial privilege is knowing that that's going to happen this fight all all injustices that may occur in all eating foul even judgements that will be rendered God is going to. Do it perfectly, and therefore we can be we can be patient. Indication. Yet. Ads In what you're saying I'm GONNA go scripture. There was little solidify what you're saying, and we're going to jump all its Romans eight eighteen with Paul was saying I consider that all present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. I think we have those type of scriptures in mind. You know we're thinking about justice. We're asking lowered when you GONNA come take. You know in in receiving injustice. Is like saying I know that the injustice that I am occurring now we'll be nothing compared to the glorious will reveal IMI. Because of you. I think the issue that we have today is just the definition of what we're calling the. As I brought up in the past when you have lost setup strictly against a human being who bears the image of God. That's That's injust. But. What we have going on today is move is just a bunch of. Cases we have different things were calling them an injustice. But the question is, how do we know? It's an injustice as you say, if it takes a lot out of weeding out, it takes a lot of studying the facts of things. Takes. A lot of see both sides. So for the most part what we have going on today. Is a lot of cases where reactions are being done. From one are two size that have done. Wrong. So when you have pete with if government is not a terror to conduct but too bad. The way that you ensure justice is rendered. Show way is that you don't have bad conduct when you come in place with authority. And that way you can at least be on the right highway to to make sure you're going the right speed limit. which you could be on the right highway for justice to be rented on your behalf since it's not a charity good conduct, it's hard to fight for justice. Within bad-conduct that's hard to do. Because now you have a moving, you have a moving ship. You have someone who's here to render judgment on bad-conduct but you're saying it's an injustice on how you render judgment even though I had bad conduct. So. It's it's. It becomes mud in the water. And the ship begins to move. So I think what we have now, it's not clear on a lot of these cases own what would be justice it's a lot speculations and things of that that nature. But I love it the. Pretty much the closing point on how you say that this ultimately will be rendered by. For the Christian that's where our hope is that. And one thing we all need to do is Chris is to make sure we focus on ourselves to make sure we are growing in Christ. And make sure they're situations wind up for us how they should because we are portrayed that attributes of guy and we pronounce that same message to everyone else. We don't pronounce the message that Hey It's okay to perform attributes opposing guy. But people should still cater to that for you. That's not how you get people to change. You get people to change by pronouncing the right attributes that come from guy and you tell people, that's the right way to ensure. That justice can be rendered on your behalf by you make sure that you don't get out of line and have bad conduct by the by the person that bears the sward. Yeah. I think I think what you're saying is really good especially is talk about. You know the way to the way excuse fearlessly society is is not. Is really just being a person yourself that justice really begins with your own personal moral character. In that character excel can be a shield from really the the justice system. I guess where we as Christians in particular in distinction from Ben Shapiro or or or or Churn Peterson where we different from them where I would differ for them is that When you begin to? When you begin to try to live your life. In according to just dictate ditch just standards. You're going to discover something about yourself. In that's Under mentally you know you're not adjust person and you don't you can't. You can't simply divide the world into victims victimisers because as it turns out you in the exam, your life you're going to find out you've been a victimized yourself you're not. An innocent victim that's been passive recipient of violence. So I think that's where it is Christians that the Gospel. Message. what do you do what you do when you find out you been perpetuator victim Soviet it's violated perfect stance. God well, that's that's where. God other in Christ is son that's where the unique message of the Gospel actually. Provides real hope. Beyond developing moral character but there is hope beyond these cycles in reputations endless aeration of justice. Hoping credits goes beyond all things because just just as an example of. Two Thousand and one. my father was killed and they found him on side of the road and you know justice is out troll. In cases where you don't have a suspect. In the question is as high as how you're gonNA react you know you're going to be said are you gonNa be at the police station every single day making sure they're do their job or or blame them for that donor job I find the suspect when he passed away mouthful because I lost my father. My focus wasn't legal to try to find out who did is because there was going to make me feel any better. So I had to keep my hoping Christ and also pray for that assailant to you know we're supposed to Care for the people that are maybe not being brought to justice. We should pray for their hearts we supreme that they redraw near by guys so that they can't be adopted family that we're for the hope something good for them, which means of them come to Christ and not merely focus on the on being brought to justice because in their case, it may not happen. In my father's case there was no case he was found. He was found beaten, but there was no suspects there was witnesses he was found like. Five days after he was, he went missing. So there's no, there's no tie to it. So. My only hope at that point. Is in Christ because. Earthly there's no, there's no case. Right, but but again, justice will be served some way form former fashion by sovereign God. So I believe that type of mentality is is a believers mentality. Within all cases. Especially when you are on the sideline looking at social media looking at. Reading articles and Europe, they're saying what should happen which did not happen I. Hope this happens to that person and you're nowhere even connected to the case. Is Not, your family is someone that just is is a fellow citizen issue you would have never known. he's still don't know because it's Jewish. So I always talked about it's about reaction. So we talk about justice about how do we react to it in? Who Do we whole? We'd say what someone should do. This injustice and you know the victim meet receive, justice? Etc.. If we're, GONNA. Be Believers. Let's just goggles on. Christ let Christ do we say we believe him to do and that's to be in control of every situation? Fair we WANNA. Thank you. Is there anything you WanNa add to the discussion is anything that you left that you may want to Chime in. At. Yeah. It really just I mean. Like enteric. That's that's A. Beautiful. Beautiful testimony I think what? I Kind of really connects with the last thing I wanted to say which is. which is a as. When? When you as a person? We use a Christian begin to live out just she begin the Mir. The just attributes of God the world. one of the things that's required I think nonnegotiable is humility. Humility it's really easy to miss here. What I'm saying is ordinarily people the your ability and they think is fair. By keep miltie fundamentally it an accurate self perception. Now, that accurate sub perception may lead you to despair, but nonetheless, that has to be the starting point. Practically, once when we're when we're talking about. As you move forward, you need that self perception of who you are where you are in the world in the in the Gospel give you that it gives. You can part of the picture at least about where you stand in relation and God. But But doing humility naturally cultivating humanity it's it's. It's a big part of the process in debate and takes a lot of work because he obtaining an accurate self perception. It doesn't just happen when you think about yourself, but you gotta to ask. People. Who Mani you gotta ask your neighbors and your friend. What kind of person have been? What kind of what kind of injustices have? Done against you. That takes up a lot of work, but it certainly not a your resignation, but it's a posture of very proactive posture, very, very intentional posture. That I believe Christ God in Christ in solely spirit can sustain you through. But yet say that that's A starting point. That that it's it's really the first thing you can do you know if if I guess the listener. The the listeners out there listening to they really have really choices they. Listening was talk this whole time? And they bicker pretend they never earn a darn word set. Or they can take seriously what we've talked about and actually do something about actually digging. The gods for actually read about what the Bible says read the passages we just ran out Roman's thirteen in in regulation In. Record work in one of the one of the big things that are gonNA have to do is develop is accurate self perception which really begins as as a prayer. So. That's that's what I would. Love that I love that and we put a bow on this and wrap this around with. Kind of the Scriptures feels summarizes scripture quite well mica six eight mankind. He told you what is good and what it is the Lord, requires you. To Act Justly to love faithfulness and to walk humbly with your guy. Some some version say to do justice that were do is just is a Hebrew word that means to produce. So you are still act justly no matter which version you re the Hebrew word is the saying. Asked Jesse. Let's faithfulness in Walk Humbly. With your guys so it starts. With us. Are we acting justly. Because got honors those who honor him right. So feel you hit you hit on the head it starts with us. So we have to do a self examination of ourselves to ensure that we are doing these things. And then be slow. And get all the facts together to judge things accordingly to make sure before we speak in say something in justice. That we have all the facts on the table and if we don't. Then we just don't make a decision on it yet. I. Love One of my main vices that you don't know what to do. You just do not. Then you be still and wait to guys shows you what to do and he makes it clear. So justice. Let us all walk injustice that US all take to the biblical view of Justice. And we thank you for listening to the one, a ministry pie cash and we'll see next time. 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EPISODE 66: A GUAVA LOT OF HELLBOY (Summer lovin'....no thank you)

"Today on the police to review elbow, the film as bull old read back to the big screen. What's it gonna reviewing while the island Donald Glover's anything that boy cannot will insure? And finally, we go into galactic details about what happened install celebration. And some what hell we is pretty cool. So we decided to prequels. In a cloud where there are already too many film podcasts you have to ask yourself. What's the harm at one more? Ordinary men armed with unqualified opinions talk. Fill me to me films me podcast film podcast about news, entertainment, general coach, this is episode sixty six and apologies a couple of days light. But hey, the never Star Wars celebration in between that let me to have the only guy my diet, my OB one only James Hannon how you doing. Even now for seeing some of the style will stuff being released over the last few days, a busy boy I've lost couple of weeks for the uninitiated. Johnny Hannon is a physicist who appears in local media is. Yes. And you'd be mashing you've been quite busy 'cause yoed black hole back home. Yeah. When we were kids. Some of the grace of but is plain about it being blurry. When new TV as well as release as well, the sixteen Tae won two floors. Highs. Good on that. Yeah. We can imagine people are used to crystal clear images now. So it'd be a blowing us because. A little bit concerned. But in the science world, they've basically taken made of someone reading reading a newspaper New York City from a cafe in Paris. You know, that's the comparison. If is a bit blurry still fucking impressive assay out. Kris Bernal, go, right? We've interstellar as interpretation of the black hole. Yeah. I mean, he was working with a scientist whose name escapes me the moment, but scientist, the probably bam. Scientifically into Senate was the the most accurate model of a black hole today as in papers were written based on the mathematical models used in interstellar. Well, incredible. And yeah, I think a while back anyone who's listened back in the old days at major special specifically about science and film about how some of the science has been uses grounded in reality. Three or four revisit. But anyway, let's make sure to starve star celebration. It's just kick straight into new go-to news. So stars celebration is event that has basically been hyped up over the last six months, I think it's fair to say that after the reception of the last Jedi, and the fact that marvel has been absolutely smashing it and the build up end stuff probably be of a subdued so celebration to be fair. I'll be honest. I wasn't necessarily looking forward to hearing anything about this episode nine just happen in go. But I gotta confess when next try dropped. I went from being curiosity, it gripe more tension, grab audibles there's something transcendent about his trial show. It what you will tell you. Nothing JJ's go back to the bones of as Nate. He's got the the antecedent patients, there's amazing landscape scenes that you expect from Star Wars the tension building in the news the little subtleties. Now, the laugh the mini dropped back Cooper six here in UK yet. And I think we'd be minutes. We're message in each other. When we li- Imprezza for the things that we will. We are grabbed us and cost talk about it. Got to go cinema. Overindul- move reputa- for plaster mandating America, American views this. We were all excited, which I think after the disappointment of the loss jet. I taught by that at leg. You know, it just I think this is an opportunity means practical a Skywalker. Hopefully, we know that that small section where Luke Skywalker was evil again considering killing his nephew, which launched Kyle Ren, death stalker. She's new career savy when did your career turn all it's been my my uncle tried to kill me. He said. Feebleness in me. And in a moment of weakness keeps describing it. And it was just as many far away was evil. I'm hoping this is going to go for circuit ROY Johnson for better or worse. A new law into Star Wars and some people like Jamie are very much against that. No law some people like myself agree of it. But can let it live to an extent. By think there's a lot of red coming here. The fact that in the trailer you see JJ literally piece together the helmet on the pump. Of of Colorado of kind of fuck, you also I do think that they go completely red cone raise heritage the nine Roy's of Skywalker, which is really really common. Oxymoron consider how the story is at the moment that there is no skywalk because left that we're aware of and stats disposed to be the end of the Skywalker saga. The I'm little bit complex with this. Because I was thinking maybe there's more of a hidden meaning behind, for example, Colorado half Skywalker, because you're every making reference tool that he actually wins out the day either wins, I think that collar Ren is beyond for Dempster this yet. But maybe the light side of the force doesn't win. Oh, said she the rises Skywalker is actually is complete full circle when combat to evil and and evil winds. But then I started thinking about previous titles and about return of the Jeddah. I that was really obvious the jet. I return and one so maybe. There isn't a heathen mean behind the other night. There is something interesting about how concert may be the term Skywalker because in the last Jedi in particular. They're trying to basically size not black and white. It's not your sure every jet or a sift area shades of gray. And RAI is kind of the she is all of the she is all of our some of our hearts, even Luke says in the trader every generation has led to you. And maybe she starts to form her own par. She sauce the form Harare movement. Listen louisville. Maybe the terminology used for that that new culture is called Skywalker. Yeah. Because she's always Texas and sharing nebulous big books. They're not page-turners. Now, I wonder if there was discussion which billing to work away through that material and Tom become the jet who knows? But I mean, it's eight for in that same pattern of titles. Wasn't it? Turn of resort revenge of the beginning with our eye, the rise Skywalker. I'm sure there's gonna be some clever thing, we can all the titles and tells you something maybe one of the things which I'm kinda disappointed about. And I've confirmed that that laugh is the emperor night at Star Wars celebration, the actor who plays the emperor came out afterwards looked whole crowd deadpan wit play it again. Charter again. And it's just like I mean, all it takes is certain tone certain words, certain combination of pictures oversight resonate in an audience of sorry much heritage oversight in the field. You had that score swelling. You had that build up. You had what sandbox really dodgy panting at the star. All of a sudden, you fell at home and J and J afraid of of new generation. But also picking off the picking up the the key parts of the heritage of living my Star Trek, for example. Yeah. And you've got in the columns for that new ad rather than Spock dying. It was flares. The switcheroo there was a tip the cap to the heritage that was already bad. I'm gonna do wonder if for example in the books, which have not really paid a pond and any of the new Sowell's universe films, but the emperor was cloned. Yes. Of that. We just survived all his economic force. Swung sift. Go see, I'm hey, something the emperor as what kind of you at the end of solo Disney slash lucasville. Have come out and said, this is the last hour was filmed for awhile free to four years at least, which means that whole like Boba fett movie spin off trilogy that sort of stuff is clearly on hold or at least shelved for right? I period of time before I saw it. What next move is in that last in devastated. They bought back a character who was presumed it. Spoiler alert. Skip for fifteen seconds. Darth maul was. Was was spoke about again. Now, why bring him back to not touch on that narrative at some point in the future for Star Wars endeavors and now bringing another character who is presumed dead back into the forte. And I just I don't understand the logic. But this triggers the original characters back to people like it. Again, speaking artists, we got the C Landau in. He's busy. Wearing an outfit, which is very similar to Donald Glover inside. I right. It's pretty much have been took an out of that wardrobe just to connect dots. There is great. I think that said the next. In-law Fanciulla like that. Let's see here's another sound so negative on this. He additions been the law shedder, and apparently no have you seen? Oh, here's going to own a casino. And he wasn't as smooth as they would like him to been Fava time has has gotten to him. Look is we see? Are might be wrong. I have in front of me. Nothing is used the mind what he's been into. But that being said, he if you follow him an Instagram. It's too much charming fucking thing on the follow on our and he's constantly inner Jim, but the thing is I like he's obviously an age there's not much he can do. So he is literally just just like lifting two kilogram weighs China pump on so. But look, I am really really hard for this. Now it cranks up to eleven. And and this is this is finally really the the new cast. I mean, it's not it's not relying on the style. Jer to extend of undergo one question, why stall celebration day not made for analyst kind of weird, right? It must be reason is, but when you star abrasion. Four. The last few years, it might a big thing. But and who knows what we'll hear about in the near future. But let's keep talking about. That's that star was keep on the Disney trying so Disney hosted a precedent. And we've been talking about the TV wars which is forming which is basically game of thrones. Now when it comes to TV wars, you got apple TV coming out, very very soon your net currently sitting on the Frode, apple TV just accountable. They can offer a just call money beyond about got net flicks. And in this new accuser verse being I mean this Amazon bit man, I'm becomes indispensable because of every cares the prime package prime on. It's hard. Not that good and devils got volume not have volumes in my opinion. Go give it if you're an I find customer you have access to apple TV that should beta the white yet deployment. And then you stage it you them build up and go now to look these things. And when she in eve, streaming service new user, you know, when they increase the. Price. Netflix a couple years ago. We will pay didn't we? Yeah. Happy customers. They lose nothing. They gained. There's a new landscape forming a new world a new new water before for for your attention. And as mentioned Netflix killing still at the moment. Even they're going to lose a bunch of original content. When the Disney service picks up anyway of C net. Flicks holds holds the house at the moment. Apple knows apple TV. Sorry, is is kind of what LB where it will be Amazon prime picking up but expand to say doesn't have the market share. Now Disney have announced of we know about Disney plus by start talking more about original concepts and start off about the content is going to be on there and site sharing screen shots from this. Now, the here's the US pays to it. Price wise, it's going to be around six nine thousand nine a month or seventy dollars a year similar to Netflix semi saw pricing structure for that. It's going to have the entire Disney back catalogue, and they're going to have a commitment to release new films within a short period of their cinematic release their feature-length movies. Yeah. Going to be on this. Asking kill off the DVD industry isn't a post. It's doing any TV story. Six phone. So he blew raises some guessing that's gonna kill off slightly yet. And I don't I mean, I also Hooghly and insights who's got a this the Walking Dead, Hulu nice. I am saying same Hulu is kind of like a pick and mix nine of system went. I encourage you to dip in and out. So there's a big sporting event you can subscribe to SPN plus for bend announced evey. The now TV we don't variety of these. Nobody. Essentially, you've got this name, which you're hoping to get you for that year. And they're hoping to give you the carrier of stuff like marvel movies will be on that streaming service within a few weeks of being from the cinema. So you're getting mumps for the idol to buy a nice things. Evolve. Original TV shows that putting together there is going to be a lady or Star Wars lady tramp is being live action raid at the moment and guidance go straight onto service nothing to do cinemas. Feel like to be Allred. Could be now. All right to say, you know, what to do. I go to heaven real dogs sea Lion King guess, but g think misses the star. I mean, do you think people back in this in twenty years time? And this is the point that cinema began to die. I mean was cinemascope resurgence at the moment. Much bigger comfy chairs you if you take a beer into taking some awesome made food you some not unique cinema chains opening up. Is it possibly the death of the beak Odeon and to the office? Maybe not. But I point I respectfully disagree. I thanking sure something people say films are making more money than ever. And they're making that money. Yes. Okay. There's an argument side at the cost of going is increasing your definitely Ryan saying that. Mike billion dollars worldwide if cinemas dying. Yeah. No, I appreciate it. I think unlimited cuts start an hour thing that we that that allows a clever move. But you wonder if like, you know, prices of everything else increasing wages, not increasing as much people preferred to stay at home, these days, they spend money Vesey in their homes, but they say millennials prefer experiences and cinemas are about experience and things forty x. And now. They wanna see Star Wars for the first time. I watch it for the as I sit Nestle, retain, you know, I macho or Sowell's forty eight in that home. There are certain fields. I want to see in endgame who want to see that and cinema. Hell, yes. So yeah. You may be right. Maybe do wonder would it be busy is? Now. That's very true time. We'll tell on that. That was the Disney stuff. There was a bunch of other news items. I wanted to cover towards the end of last week and a lot of that stuff's kind of redundant now. So let's just talk about couple of things just to tickle the sensors on that you talked about The Lion King. What do you think the trader the live on? Joe? I went into thinking, I'm going joy this. I don't know how they can remake The Lion King, but we're just animals lie. In my mind, I can visualize aiding compute in Idi make sense have watched after we have this line can get I enjoy The Lion King. I probably will what? It looked Illit. Good to me. This is how about like a lot of people of the internet bows, ten bay. This is amazing. But it looks very weird with this Harvey listing animals, and I do kind of agree with that to an extent. But here's the thing. A lot of people complaining about skulls voice in this Jerry, Jeremy on. That I even went and go go James joins comeback. I still stand. But this they should have got no degrees. Tyson him being we would have been absolutely incredible. But anyway, obviously Jones Jones there is no other. So that is the daddy of all voice overs. Exactly. And even try it is they repeating for the stuff that we remember how they're so why such a different tangent. When it comes to how treating how to treating scar in this. I don't know. But I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. I think he looks good. I mean, our feeling that we may be what she individ and beat up. The Lion King. Yeah. But John valley road pressed Jordan. Yeah. The heat on jungle book LA as he's in good company, and that cast absolutely chopping stellar a whole world was oh my God. That's beyond. So we're having heard her speak here in may. Yeah. I'm looking for an and in the malls, definitely any sort of. In our gold line slaves tonight with his mom tweeted him. Really? Appreciate your see. Thanks, mom. All will do the same thing. Great furniture. Donald Trump is going to be voicing young Simba that we haven't heard him in this yet. And we'll talk about it in light runs during review if he's new film, guava island better. I mean, I'm pretty hot this and just Arapoff. The news is gonna lead into our feature light earned Greece. Your congress not the country to musical Joe off of me in the same criteria. A sound of music, and this is gonna suddenly people thought mckeever, I'm not big musical these films as a kid. I mean, you're also musicals are real lightly. Miss a lot who has really good option version of are really like. The Bob shoot. Once we need, really. But I think maybe as a kid films that just over watched what Perm Santa music in Greece and. And it's just. Story storyline is I they fed up over the summer, and then they stopped and then they started other. I story where eleven jacket and smoking you'll get your. Just. As a state of the everyone opposite signal. Everyone is fifty. Not fifty over fifty ecommerce nostalgia restaurant stuff. The getting. I can't have my this. Does know Sarmiento our watcher at I wanna watch even for this parliament. Leading service that there's going to be a prequel based on the some some loving now, here's his his my film critic tick to the cap of why I don't think this is particularly good idea. Nothing notified identically, the height grace they've been killed. So I'm just thinking more impartially about this. In terms of the original film, does not hold up now by twenty nine hundred standards right in terms of young people that this film was trying to encapsulate. We're quite boring. They're thing was go to the cinema together and have a drag race to settle the dispute. It's the past years and. Remembering wrong if felt a little bit like she was property to be one in which is not really in keeping with what is ideal today. But what we can say is that for better or worse that film had a time period. Judge today sandards by saying how you gonna make a film? So why go back and make a pre where the whole concept is basically you got the story in the song some eleven I may each have run holiday fast, Danny says, he's mates dined. Please please tell me. Danny says three bike. She's pretty easy. Yeah. She says to her friends nothing happened. And you don't know what the truth is in between that and I basically Columbia. Who wants to see that film who wants to see a young John Travolta, not John Travolta, in fact, once John Boehner anymore because John Travolta turns out is not particularly good. This. In John, maybe younger tion of her Tichy utter now who who's asking for this is nobody and we got feature talking about prequels a bit later on. But it's fair to say that. This will be my just announced hype fucking films announced all the time. And then paid who's I know we don't want it. So it might not ever exist. So that's the news for this week up next films be cast by went to a screening of hill. Boy, this is a reincarnation of original del Toro movies with a new director and new lead to boot as well. Daniel David harbour from stranger things is taking up the role of the red. Now this film for whatever reason was decided to not be screens to film critic prior to its race. That's always a good. So I'm right. Yes. One hundred percent anything. Well, that's that is review. Hell boy. Enjoy. On an island of the coast of Scotland something was summoned from the depths of hell. Something that would end mankind. Worry about. Uh-huh. You did help ROY at she started life as a sequel to help boy to the golden army Iritani had the original creators involved. Unfortunately, though tour was too busy is don's called was filled with other films at times, I chose to step away that also caused the lead from Perlman's wants step away from the Hobo movies as well because he basically wouldn't come back unless DOE tour was involved in the project. So that the film shady think about rebooting his project they decided to reboot to in our rated style with a new director and the new cursed David Haba was cast as help with. And this film started production twenty seventeen mainly filmed in the UK and came out a couple of weeks ago bicycler, this is retelling the story of read. This does down an R rated road. In fact, it won't you now is all right to pretty much strikes off the bat of the amount of swearing clarify when Logan came out, and it was like being, hey, where all rated we're gonna say fuck loans, even drop the bomb every now and again. As well. And essentially stored on this film is about ancient blood Queen who back in the days. King off was killed by Merlin and presumed dead happens present iodine behold, she's back evilness per Susan. She is looking to take over mankind. Hell boy himself was sent to England botox secret organization, and he's fath applied by end McShane to investigate the gatherings going on. I don't wanna get too much more spoiler detail on that. But basically help wait as a loss of traveling in his filming facts, there is so much story in this film. It kind of goes over the place. He ends up in Scotland he's in Mexico of in England, it's gone English director to this film, which is kind of disappointing. If you actually look at the portrayal of English people in this movie, and you'll Eva a cockney ri- doing awesome pays out. So it's not very upper class and the British. I might say there is even a strip it scene where the blood Queen. Who's been reincarnated is watching love island yet love island is that the best. She could do the show British culture. Anyway, that's for another argument for another podcast wise as mentioned David harbour playing big red himself. Hell boy butter. I was really really stoked when this costs was down the end to be honest. David hop has a pretty good job with this doll. Okay. Does. He does. I good enough job. The only problem is of new can't help. But think of repel because he literally does doesn't pull embody the row, and it's very hard man's to carry. I think David harbour just about pools that off at mainly dry vich plays name the blood Queen. She's basically big badness. Very forget performance being honest. Maybe she was on the served by the script or the night image. Join out Lovejoy pops up everywhere he plays. Trevor the father of the head and founder of the BP our day of the secret organization that recruits red and older crazy supernatural stuff that ensures from that we got. Russia line playing Alice who go bionic. She is pretty much under served in his film, pretty underwhelming her accent's really DOJ as well, she's trying to speak English, but also trying to be Arush in so of flights between the two we got done you'd I came as well in this. And there are some other interesting actors plaid across this. But I was really hard to try to this film are member being on this pardon saying how much this this trade ahead. Why soul Butterball of how much I wanted to say this. Now, this film has great moments. There are some kickoff spots. There are some this is a gruesome film as well. By the way. It's all right it for a reason, it's not just the swearing at. She there's some pre pre dull moments in this film. But as low as kickoff scenes in facts to heart, she so convoluted, in fact, I had so many fight scenes in so many weird Munster's for hell boy defied the budget kinda got stretched in terms of the special effects. I do not think this is going to spark in the university hill boy movies if anything. Might actually inspire us to want to get that third though tour movie, which is a shine because dive it hub. I do think is quite good in this film at the script is really pulled the action is enjoyable butts. You will be thinking what if and you come out in current underwhelmed by the whole thing. So. So to wrap it all up was going to school this movie. I would have to go unfortunate to out five. The reason why is because there are some good moments. When you put the some of the past together, it really does not feel like a full film. It doesn't feel like a fledged out story as fill a coherent storyline. David harbour Karna gets those two stars just about and it's always nice to see him in in sharing together in films on this. Go see if you've got cine world unlimited called or on Odeon unlimited card, but I would not go spend your hard earned coin on this film. I do feel like we've been kind of cheated which is kind of a shame that being said there are I'm sure it will find a cult following. I'm sure that there are people out there that will generally love this film. And maybe even hold in high regard that near original movies. But unfortunately, I'm not that person in retry addressed, unfortunately is to out five. Together here. We do. But it's not gonna work, you know, 'Capricorno in your. Right. Jamie Cy we said over news. Some love had me a blast and fast. That is going to be a prequel that we definitely do not like the idea of this. I want to a feature what prequels should never happen, and we'll probably start around. It sounds a pregnant rely stuff. I posted the question on Twitter account, and thanks filming people. You got back to me, and some ends may some interesting stuff some view replied back on the regular time line, essentially, I'm going to start off really negative, okay? And Hitler and give me your business prequels that should never have happened. Now, I'm going to go with one. It's probably a subject close to your heart so apologies this. But why the hell they do the prequel trilogy for Star Wars, realistically and should've ever existed Jewish Luke's vision only wasn't it was that to have star over four five six on g to get them. Do one two three I think you'd into early. I think if you've done it. Now, the technology is there too. To make you better and not have charge things, or at least attribute better. Hi by. That's all I'm such a visionary. I've serve a head of my time. Why Moscow my planet needs me four five and six well because he probably wrote out the nine films or story and went fuck of only got one shore pick the best one. I think this is the best narrative, and maybe maybe. Yeah. Every bit like that. There is an argument maybe was all preplanned light back to the future. Trilogy of. True. Yeah. I feel. Eight hours fans excited about a trilogy. I think it was delivered world here. So I think the firms I'll go I'll go kick props best that is like adults been kicked so many times that just wanted to end of the eleven films that we may so far, you know. You know? Veja would be little power for that doubt. Yet doubt. I doubt that she put fairly high. Very one is probably my favorite newest film ever made for the rarely. The new Star Wars era, really really light. Very well. Yeah. And that's a pretty cool. That's great. Right. And that's pretty cool stories, and I absolutely love it when we hear of films where they're making a prequel to this. And we are we not end. Why are you telling us this? I want to fuck and say, then you come out and God that is brilliant. And I was like that of rogue one there. We might that we some loving. Let's highly chopping down heiress over another trilogy that shouldn't have been a trilogy. But just because Peter Jackson got so excited and bulk down with this. He made it into a trilogy. The hope it like. Your own technology to move on. It is a bit. Which is great. Did it really need a trilogy people really want to hope it film? I mean, I've got what I'm very fond memories of a kid being read the hobbit Ovalles, Kate or being. Memories of a kid. Used to sit down his father radio the book outside in the rain. It was a good memory. We haven't been chasing. Anyway. Mogo foam members of having apple great to me as a child, and it was a big old book. And so I did like the bit, but I might be more nostalgic than actual quality of film because com member of now. So the big blockbusters still about some something one. So the exorcist. Yes, great film. Right. Like every. Hold. It's been it's been see who's two and the studio decided to make a prequel. And this is quite an interesting film me bracket holder, go down. So essential. Happened was an Xs prequel was made in two thousand four code exits the beginning, and it's it's pretty rubbish. It's unnecessary as well. He's very getting pre Kutu Titanic was fucking pull yet. Yeah. Yeah. The ships Bill to know he's going to the studio saw how British this film was and said stop production now pretty much and decided to move resources name some of the cast into making another pretty cool, and it was called exorcist the million. And what was quite interesting was the sugar when I got an idea how we can cut. Our losses will release both of them. This is kind of interesting take on. I think the prequel to the exorcist codex the beginning is rubbish, but dominions actually really good. Sarah, quite it's quite sure sound, but speaker prequels like I love I love the character. Hannibal Lecter TV show. Han moves fantastic and Hopkins. Obviously transcend in the row even red dragon when he's clearly not at the shit was planned that rob. That's fine. I'm not knocking at prequel Hannibal rising. Yeah. I need to see that stuff. Right. Didn't it seem binds on a defined is a bit messed up? Got that from me in people that wasn't writing ahead. Exactly. He's the guy plays him. It's just like don't get what he does. Now. He's just model guy keeps doing that. Signed advert going. I'm not going to be the people. They want me to be anymore. We didn't want you see Hannibal to be fair. Yeah. That was city say have you seen how were as many years ago? I remember I remember not enjoying it. It just seems sometimes they have really good franchise. And they just want to push it to the empty agree. Lots of lots of prequels also to see how far can we push into no-one mice? This Bill ready war? Well, speaking of films that has a billion to them over sun studios decided to milk. It X men was great example of that. Yes. I have done stuff with the new line of films. That's aside. I classes is quite good. Future past is is is it pulls on the Saudi as soon as Brian singer actually gets back involved on on pretty much turn off at that point. Also guy's a jerk. So if nap specs, but I don't talk about those ones there was a period in mid two thousand two thousand and four to two thousand ten when over sudden FOX were like, right. We are going to have this big old x men universe films. You'll have a bunch of prequels as amac NATO movie. There's going to be a wolverine movie. It's going be a gambit movie the guy, but movie actually still is still doing around now Channing tighten links to do ideally moving personally. But how great character they can't do it. I proven they can't I've lost the plot with Parnell kill me for this because she loves oriented films. Komo's great Jim sons out that like wolverine was the story was with Britain United Dover over and over expert origins. And. Before about the Nawab version of that. That was my Logan Logan, loaded brilliant film. So they've got a couple of gems within that collection. But as a as a universe. It's a mess. I've got no idea what the threat is at least review. No, the adventures and all that kind of got an idea where it's going this. I go clue well. Never was anyone more confused than with X men origins Wolfer in which by the way. That's why can tell already had this idea as mentioned before the concept of there's going to be a series of films called X men origins. And the first one was offering had a bunch of my was lined up. And I remember watching wolverine actually before it was meant to come out dodgy copy of and it was considerable. That's that was such an unnecessary movie. And there was nothing. What what did we learn really about Jackman over and not really much as my Winfred? Our adamant him into his that cross. Ev everyone who watch those films because he's been referred to several hundred times even done a back door version of that in future. That's right. So turn on the say, yeah. And the only thing the only reason why not film should exist. Now. Now in hindsight is because it birth that poor as we know him. Now, I'm ROY Reynolds even goes back in time and sabotage himself from appearing in that film, which I find absolutely hilarious. Exactly that's about prequels. We like. Imagine very one ready bomb. I'll tell you what we reviewed it for the podcast last year. The none they ain't cool to as well, it wasn't meant to be spinoff actually, ended up being a cool to to conjuring universe. And Ecorse, I loved them really enjoyed that. Yeah. Yeah. We coming from that really getting buzz from it wasn't. It was a little bit jumpy, which we're not very jumpy people. But we take jump a little bit. Yeah. There wasn't much without. How's that an event with calling Hari director? And it was literally just before we week before you a me went to go see the non. And I think I said to him was you're right. Looking forward to seeing he goes, you do I really wish ever see him again activate like, you know, I really deal today. Ovation did like. Next. But yeah, I think there's definitely there's something charming about revisiting this stuff. I never Precourt. I actually really like we a lot of people probably is I realized the mommy movies, Brandon. Frazier. Yeah. I mean, I think charming movies they're adventure. I really like Brennan version as Brendan Fraser, are we lucky was an actor towards the juggle. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. There is there's a negative as in. Yeah. Yeah. As he's now funding against an actor sites. A great view was cracking to really join at that series of follies off slapstick, but also severity. Yeah. And that's a hard thing to pull up. Definitely it's not fries. I really liked the scorpion king. CGI that was terrorist. I. Film. But insurance does properties the wrong. From wrestling. But that was the first time we saw actor properly. Every was who? But the CGI was terrible. If you go back and look at that cast this thing that fucking cast this for the school being kings? Absolutely incredible for the CGI it just like it's time Royds comparible to also world, and that was a piece of shit. Comedy. There's see joy that my friend. We just built the world's biggest pool that's one northbound. Kevin Costner swimming poise. What film wasn't good? But now I school Peking on Jimmy really like about it before with Hannibal rising about what we didn't realize red dragon. One time. So I can push my glasses up my nose ago, actually read the book before I saw the film and TV show at tation of that he took some some creative license to make into a TV show format, but I really liked it. And obviously Star Wars rogue one. That's how you make a prequel that is you make a story. I would I would say almost rogue one was. Star Wars films to be at that. Sits hope despair is great stuff, but to one prequel, which may be I don't know how you feel about it. But the Hypo series obviously yet. Little bit older than the load trivia night. As people our age who have played cards. Yeah. People adverse stepping out. It wasn't too much. We were late teens. What we when when the the Harry Potter trilogy? We will like sixteen where? Yeah. I yeah. So I did read all the books push gossip now. To be proud of middle books fortunate fills, but how magical beasts movies that came out and the grim old films? Whether it's come out as well those films. I thought they were really good to prequels story to spin prequel or not is are really wish. And I'm a massive fan of JK routed, not necessarily an office read her stuff. But I'm I'm a fan of her as an activist each pretty from that perspective taking crappy. She does take any crap. But why she keep dropping more? Do we really need to sexualize wizards? John guy ratios, I'm asking, but they don't actually share it in the film. So why why be searching activists? Oh, you mean the Dumbledore? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think she's probably more during that upset those who were like so delegates because he got a lot of backlash from certain sectors of society who didn't like the coat being of lightheartedly things to people that may be bleak. Bleak security. Here's two fingers up at you do fingers. I put you not in the way, you're thinking in the films. Why why was there? Law actually being the old. Maybe maybe it does not seeing any stage plays either because it's been used for Nelson's day. Yes. Apparently fantastic of heard nothing, but good Bob review there. So or the night fair the eighteen. Eighteen. Today. I go to see mel's traffic, actually, why we don't do it because that's our connotation or you have to put on a posh accent? Yeah. Signed, we should get Jamie of the West End fame. Awesome better. But yellow. I'm kind of with you in terms of I enjoyed ice films. Not didn't enjoy about didn't don't like Johnny Depp playing the lead as not the leap, but becoming voter more more. Gwenda world. Butts a prequel hierachy love house. Dear my hall, actually is yours Prometheus. It was really good. Actually, I did a lot of people were pissed because they heard oh spice to be its own thing. Yeah. And it was saying worse people love the universe. And then I and then. Ridley Scott roll back on he's on premise of going actually gonna make about aliens again, and I'm going to stick with the Zina more. And I'm going to really go for that. And literally secrets that was ADM covenant with you going back to the idea and folklore on that. So we'll talk about frequently high pre crew love, and I for interesting talk about prequels out like to see all the concept of anyway, you know, not musical grease. One. We kinda cold is that many black international comes out quite soon. We're reviewing soon is that Will Smith again. I recognise going to a Cami now. It's that, sir. Chris Hemsworth and Tessa Thompson to stop someone much time the people in the fucking planet. Yeah. I would love to see a prequel to that. But not I another prequel in some of the men in black just in the eighties or something. Which is I think many black very year. Yeah. I would like to see a prequel where its first contact. It's the first time a government agency finds out there is intelligent life. And I need to form the men in black and decide that the earth is better off not knowing an interesting story, totally great one quality can be done now because it's too late is northern story of the Italian job ally of criminal mastermind, they're working together to the original. I just think it'd be great to see how they got reputations. In their skill sets came together eventually to form the talian job. But we do that. Then I. So you know, Markle are still dirt. It'd be funny. If you're just they earn a to blow the bloody. Speaking of certain set of skills. I know he's pretty much blown new titan trilogy. But I would love to have seen some of how he got though certain say, you you can't find that my friend Kenya because TV series taken Amazon is that a prequel to him as a young man developing skills working. So he came out from the army really gonna mentioned in many many years ago. Really good video watching okay? Is already happened. And I'll tell you that would like to say, which is kind of contradictory to some things I'm moaned about in the past say. Sequel to the matrix, the matrix brilliant film. I think the promise is better than a delivery in terms of when you see Neo fly free to Skype on stuff. We knew those an interesting backstory of humanity losing the machines. Now, there is actually a spin off slash collection of stories could the animatrix the haven't seen. I highly highly recommended, especially if your anger and stuff or just general animated features. It was of short stories about the matrix law in terms of here's a story about and it's like ten stories about twenty minutes long age and some those parts at she did allude to the history of mankind from how did we get from where we are now to a point where machines taken over out love to say it in a live action film. I think I'll be a really compelling film of his thought might wave Terminator he's the prequel liberate rate Skynet is the reason why this happens, and it will come. Together. Well, is an is an anagram gram of Albany being the one it's not. But now you thinking over. But another of how it happened so thing. Okay, prying we're gonna get Donny boy overturn to the twenty eight days later franchise going to happen. We're waiting for the tornado as twenty eight weeks, whereas three months twenty Twenty-eight years to say the twenty hours twenty hours of the infection spreading for London. And how does it go from a populated city to the desert elephants graveyard? Yeah. I mean, there's a series of every as a series on Netflix is at the moment, which is above average. Recommend. I should the black summer. He's basically about the few weeks after six weeks after the outbreak as quite fast animated, it'll people getting vetted people realizing that actually what the virus if they died naturally. This turn in on base. Worse than ever. I wanted to this point it wasn't. He ever is eight series episodes all think and the first three or four really spent several really good guess what goes on. Dave of the outbreaks like the story behind that. Don't we what what we say today make purchase? I think familiar your we different opinion on this is that our our heights. I love knowing how we get there. I don't care once we've got there. Well, I mean, but but the Walking Dead. I absolutely loved it up until the point where society is so far removed from what regional society was that is basically game affirms with zone these right? And the building of society say how to get. Yes, I'm interested in how it happened. But what's happened? I I'm done. And I believe that there are some really interesting stories to find a loved on bright films where it's like the first day or the first week like fear. The Walking Dead was really good for that was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, it's kind of weird how I am decided to really go booze EP and all these different variants a new Walking Dead show coming out connecti- off season. I think yes on four, but let's die finish it. The off the main actress, but they said it wasn't done. But there was such a backlash because she middle-age female actress, you literally spoilt the show by describing the character. Spoiler guy. She she is there's a lot backlash because of see there's a thing about Hollywood is narrative killing off Midlands female actresses and not using them. They didn't have a long shelf life as maybe Mauer, but don't worry. David mercy, just walks in and just take the paycheck. But she was brilliant. She's fantastic. So she they killed her off, really. Yeah. She's interesting evening because apparently viewership is declining or more condensed even have really trying to these new films in the work Vanja Lincoln as we've mentioned on previous pods. So yeah, I'm kind of I like to see how stuff happened with that in mind escape from New York him. Yeah. Net a prequel movie about how Manhattan becomes that prison when the world decides his prison big? Yeah. Strata? It was a really good blueprint for the future. Well. Out love to say something really interesting in that. Yeah. I mean, it's a real show. This generation people have never seen escaped from late or escape from New York. Both amazed deals with cover us on them and highly highly recommend people more slurs. Well, also put the question out on Twitter and a few people go back to us, Ed akin replied, back said gremlins w fucking interesting as they came from. Yeah. Or just lie bit Morton finding a bit more from that. You can't talk to, you know, anything about no, not really. Feed of that would. In fact, Grammy's is awesome Christmas movie. Is it took them was Christmas special? This year is going to be gremlins. Thank you. Again. You have inspired us. This guy who'd sash as reply to us as well. And he hard Jerry Luther's drum wig, just with a slightly aged carriage. Reeves age. Him and start seeing to Jerusalem. Juliet Leonardo DiCaprio film. Yeah. Couvert pretty. Yeah. Paris. That means nothing to me as the one that Julius I marry I'll really thing. Thing and Easter displacement. Spice guy fact of outback astrophysics. I love the fact that everyone was talking about rubber dining juniors fiftieth birthday of that right beside the guy's a fucking genius, God, Hallo bees. But was I read turned fifty and people were like, but how is this will? So you for Edgar ROY tweeted saying he lives off the blood of virgins. So. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I definitely agree. Johm wick is a classic film. I love the world opened up that we've got with your. I don't I'm not ready for it to end with chapter fray already. Hope it doesn't make a great TV show actually, doesn't doesn't. Now. He's he's got Sassan dogs. Now, the exactly exactly another person that tweet service quite often ago could seek she wanted to talk about a prequel to guardians of the galaxy focused around focused around Yondo. Dick, that'd be. Causes again. I see like five franchise holder for now. Keep using that word. But that is everyone's enjoyed great films. And I think you're probably build my success dun-rite which have done so far could do a few spills on that. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I'd I think people are ready for you on due to to be gone really Asya fucking cried in that in the cinema with you guys evolved into I saw some to he's like you undo. No magic. Speaking about blue man group. Their Cup things. You kind of say how g guardians thing with Soubestre Stallone is one of them for Christ's sake. Yeah. You don't 'cause people like that without without hopefully leading leaving seeds in their old love for some prequel film, where it's yonder with sly and mahu Rosenbaum is also on the currency as well. Mighty Cyrus was voicing whatever. It was. Really hell. Yeah. Yeah. I think it'd be great film. You saw clips where randomly when Peter is having those moments of thinking about how he can channel. He's hall to control the planet and showed some clips hilarious of him in rocket just flying in the sky. But it was also I blink. And you miss it moment of Yondo with of the young accident. They've got into I imagine I feel more saints, but cut it out the film of him sharing peer how to shoot and knock imagine. There's some really hilarious stories to be told of a younger. Boy, we're with yonder who never tried Tarum before protected him from the guy's guide film, quite heart warming stories. Why wouldn't it because it'd be hard exterior actually really cares about John? Boy, he said he just couldn't eat him. And he was small could still stuff. But anyway, well, thanks for that guys. And if anyone else's Garcia's for prequels that you love that shouldn't exist or or create your own prequel getting getting concept. I it's like a Bill joint venture another prequel. Please those to us. Signed the play your owed face the Gulf in a fucking tangent. Have you seen? They've done a bed groups thing on Netflix. Oh, I'm being brave enough to press because it looks like she's like, right? So I've got real rake here, or of course, state what you want me say, okay. You want me to eight eight with to show of our you want me to eight with the show. Ricca Maury into dimensional cable of just bear come on my really sold out here. I know the whole the whole mystique is gone now in terms of you do sign hotel go stay at a hotel or cap out the wall, you'll be camp out in the world. I'm just heard the cover off now. What Darren Brown should do like, a big experiment of this selector index. Imagine you heard one choice let the man live or die. Okay. You're all murderers. He could do in a way around weathered only be one route people who take. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He is wizard wizard was about of sides might be that bad is wisdom is anyway on that. If you've got for prequels or or one soak some more more about pre cooled took foamy in Germany get in contact on Twitter at took film. We too. Streaming gems unexpected streaming gem but unexpected, but very very welcomed at dunk lava. Now, I am a chopping massive fan of him. I went to go see him as charge may know, a couple of weeks got to absolutely stellar. And he's actually retiring the purse on similar David Bowie Ziggy stardust, and he decided that he was going to retire. He's live performance of this character who could shelter for those basically awesome festival in America fire festival tried to rip off let's not go down there. And as he was about to approach the stage. Amazon prime dropped a film charge. Gumbiner films called guava island is actually written and directed by. The guy was written by Donald Glover with his brother, but it's actually directed by the guy who does his music videos. He's worked with him at Lancer great right cast riana Latina riots who's in Black Panther. She also absolutely smashed the back. This year literally will be talking about her for years, and it's a short film. Okay. It's an hour long is got songs from his new album, which is think is I love science think of Visu. Album owned got for outside say, a small arthouse style film, and for people who are pro in our house might hear that and go what the fuck you want about Adam. But in my opinion, it's kind of long those lines the narrative behind this is based on a small island called guava island, where don't Glover's character is basically street performer, his MRs by riana and is lucky. This is Ville. Yeah. This is about me. Ryota? She says have boys. List? Essentially, honest islands. There's a corporate organization that runs the island and makes everyone work every day of the week and Donald grabs characters gonna put on a music festival as I waited too tight people after the crappy mundane of their lives to enjoy life and live for had fun on this island. And and they're so of narrative point is that everyone lives in paradise. But now we can afford to live there. And there's some cool undertones to it is peppered by songs. Some really great versions as cracking banner of this is America done like in actual factory and just amazingly. Well, there's some new songs peppered in some new songs from his gigs. Recent. If you've been you've heard them, and I I may be a bit by towards this mentioned form a massive fan. I love the musical ready. Germany famous genius. I do think some people will watch this go. This is the most pretentious fucking thing. I've ever seen how how much big heavy mushy babies together to put this film together. It also guys know very weird direction is very inspired by a few things. I think if you know the story of Bob Marley. There's been a few times where Bob Marley has literally been in similar situations as Donald Glover's character in this. But I can't really I don't wanna give too much the story on why I really really love this film. I think is a great watch of your fan of his music. You're you're gonna love this few things too. So in the negative call them now that you've got riana she's a great actor if you've seen our notions. I it she's fantastic. Good in battleships fair. Fucking sucked butter. She doesn't mean too much to work with the teacher in this as well, unfortunately, but it's a visual exposed to be Visu album. Right. To an extent. Why doesn't she sing? She doesn't sing in spill kidding. I don't actually use like half of her talent. She she's she made that choice itself commercials really hard as as a as an actor who was a signal to not be tight cast into roles where you're seeing all the time. And maybe she's trying it what for lady Gaga ferryport near. But it's not utilized or at all in this film that being said it goes in interesting free the way for this film. You're thinking this is I don't want to end. I love it. Give me more binders. Give me more. Give me more really interesting comedy narratives in this as well. There's something really charming the whole thing and then abruptly ends because he's only fifty seven minutes long water on guide four five I really enjoyed it. Amazon prime have done very very well to get the rights to street. I think is available for twenty days done. What's going to happen? Then goes onto another string service or then you have to buy or whatever so get on your prime, and and streaming give go so good. And it might open up a few world of looking at the other things to creators of made in this like lines, you probably nothing to compare it to the art direction is kind of got some Sidna inspirations to and don't is literally the most time to move on the planet, in my opinion, the blood can do wrong, and this is just another things at his job amazing things. So they have. Guava Ireland four five Viterbo on Amazon fight taking this on to listen to this podcast, even listen systems much as we've enjoyed police kick on the light follow. 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Starting a real estate business in a niche market  Adrian Wilson

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Starting a real estate business in a niche market Adrian Wilson

"It's quite funny that we're on the elevator podcast because our motto is elevating life and that came about because we do want to encourage people to build wealth to live in great communities he's and because we specialize in highrise apartments this feeling of being elevated. You're listening to elevate the official podcast of Melita agent. The real estate industry sales professionals property managers and leaders each episode. We bring you the best minds in business in real estate to help you sill more and elevate your results to connect with all things elite agent including the latest news coaching and features subscribe at our website elite agent dot com welcome to another episode of the elevate podcast where we delve into some of the brightest minds in business and in real estate for the very best tips and strategies for you to implement elevate your business. I'm Samantha McLean editor of elite agent and host of this way shows Adrian Wilson has given himself a clear and distinct mandate to ensure that every client transacting real estate in the apartment market has an incredible and rewarding experience with nearly twenty years of experience on the he's built. Adrian has been a business. I worked in corporate for franchises and is now back with the venture which is one hundred percent percents farthest on that apartment nation by sales and rentals in this podcast. You're going to hear Adrian talk about why he has chosen the apartment H. as opposed nice to generalizing how he plans to leverage that from a marketing and branding point of view plus some of the experiences he's now leaning on wall in start up and building a brand new real estate business from the ground up so I hope you enjoyed the episode and if you do please share it with your industry colleagues and of course hit that I changed subscribe button now as usual. We've taken nights and for about a week you can download an episode companion or an action. God for this podcast at least elevate dot com now lots of you already literally getting extra from us in the mail and if you're not quite in the leap yet you can literally get extra out of our podcast by getting the night so so action. God's delivered to your door every month in one convenient US lit up so this is where we send you a printed newsletter so these golden nuggets have been fired from GASCON discount ever get lost in the Asia or the amount of the cloud or the business of the online world extra on news allows you to relax rate the best takeaways McKnight's nights and implement Renewal Beckett Office. I mean some amazing feedback on that so far so don't forget to check that out at elite agent elevate dot com. That's it for May enjoy the chat with Adrian and we'll catch very soon so welcome to the podcast Adrian Wilson. Thanks Sam appreciate it so it's really great to have you heave just started a new business business real estate but let's go back a little bit. Give us a little bit of the backstory on Adrian Rolston Hueys Adrian Wilson. That's a great question Sam. I guess the first thing is that in today's where we're going to be different to I am tomorrow and pot of the Jenny's always re education learning. I guess for Mayo is trying to self better and grow grow into who almost barring to be in future. I think the Johnny will change and if you ask me again in a year. Hopefully it's a different answer but where I started in real estate. Anyway was two thousand one what are knocked on the door of an agency in Sydney. City and said look ready to be sales agent and of course got looked at. I'm sure everyone who's wanted to get into real. Illustrate into sales is probably received but was commonly offered a job working in leasing southwark right. I'll take that and get a start in real estate and work my way into sales and actually actually that was probably one of the most important part of my Jenny in real estate is that had I been able to walk straight into the role that are probably one of Mr Lee huge chunk of fundamentals in terms of leasing property management servicing Kwan's and understanding that actually real estate is not just about making rice owls. Obviously that's the fun part of it but at at the end of the day the real estate is broad basket and understanding different facets of that is really set me up for where I am now in property management you really learn a lot about paypal user the huge amount at their best and their worst. What would you say your specialty need. Industry is now what we're trying to do it. A real estate is to specialize in the apartment spice so there's definitely a segment of the market which already kite towards off plans sales this definitely an existing segment the real estate industry mystery which caters to selling homes and so we do the same thing or a combination of that but we do it in space specifically for apartments and for me it's really the exciting because it's one of the largest fos growing markets in the country not in terms of suburbs but in terms of the type of stock and there was some statistics put out by by the IBS at the last census and this roughly just over six million himes and now this about one point three million apartment so almost one in five people now now living in apartments and so if you think about one point three million apartments in Australia and no agency at this point in time is specifically servicing that market most of the agencies that were saying a really looking at suburbs -cations working with we're talking about property taught so that kind of gives us a specialization. That's one of the reasons I was really interested to talk to you actually because you've got some agents out there who will say right now. You have to be all things to papal like you have to to spread yourself over everything to be able to compete and then there's another school of thought which is let me nate myself down and Bay the guy they go not guy for this segment of the market. Is that where you're thinking came about yeah absolutely and I think if you look at a lot of top agents they will almost always have have a nice for some of them at the price point for some of them. It's a suburb suburbs for summits at demographic or a certain segment of the community and for us what happened to grow that in in the apartment spice and that's not to say that we weren't look off to clients that have various types of properties without real estate agents at the end of the dive it suddenly to have a nation a strength and Arro- positioning in the market. I think we'll set us in good stead for the future. Yes so that's the other reason is really came to talk to you. Too is because you have some spectacular marketing and when you have actually like I mean of conduct had you on my write us at for about five years or even more and thank you for the Google home pleasure so when you launching your brand tell me some of the things that you were thinking about to make yourself nine out they say hi. This is what I'm doing. Yes are so this brand so a real estate in the way that it's come about and developed his actually very different to my last agency will some property agents which started in two thousand and night and if you like I'll talk a little bit about the two journeys because back in two thousand and night I guess like a Lotta people that stop there on business. I was an agent in momentum so while I was in the market I had a lot of traction had some great siles and so at that point in time was the decision to take the leap of Faith and I've mine office and and I did so on a dining table for my shift lead in Bonn die and I went up to officeworks and border print saw rang a friend of mine and said Look Anita brand and he said we'll what's it called Sutter Dr Wilson Wilson Property agents will do and so for me at that point in time it was all about the momentum whereas point in time having sold that business two thousand fourteen tain done a few things in some of the Property Development Saad both consulting to develop isn't doing some small projects of my own and then working for Essex listed company. I'm a graph which was a phenomenal experience in a jam roll now coming back into the market and setting up business and in that Thomas will having conducted an an MBA at ut s much around from a business sense in terms of how do you run a business. How do you set up brand one of the things to look out for what's leadership really main but obviously. I'm not an agent momentum so I have a whole set of different challenges so a bit of a long winded answer but the brands self was crucial to the development of this this new business so in my first agency the brand was an afterthought and it was all about the momentum and transactional sought of business this time rather rather than trying to develop that IVA TOM as the agency grew. We've tried to get it right from the start. So what that meant was almost a six month program. I am with some very high profile donnas to drill down to say WHOA. What is what is a real estate who I we who were trying to be. Where would we like to wind up you know what are the things that we want alkaline some people to work for us to feel when they see how marketing when they say advertising when they turn up there up in homes and and actually drilled down to one small saying and it's actually not too. It's quite funny that we're on the elevator podcast because Al Motto is elevating life and that came about bound because we do want to encourage people to build wealth to live in great communities and because we specialize in highrise apartments this feeling of being elevated so that's kind of how brand about is that a little bit of a play on a brand as well absolutely so what we typically do in specialization allies -ation is we sell straughter apartments and a lot of people will probably know that straughter apartments are actually a division of airspace. That's legal title. That's what the ownership is. When you purchase is an apartment you'll buying aspects and so for us. We wanted to kind of cross reference that in a playful way without brand interesting and so you really did start with the feeling that you wanted to give people that don't if you'll brands like how do I want these people to fail and then built the brand around that yeah absolutely so we actually took all all of the typical kind of mocking Mariam's from Dale Qods two brushes to we looked at a lot of online ads and we tried to work out firstly as a consumer so other attendant or a bio. You know what the Cape. It's information that I'm going to need throughout the course of the interaction with the property in the agent and so we've tried to provide died from a content perspective very short and succinct information about all the pertinent stuff that people made and we try to strip out all of the hyperbole and all the old any grades all acres of takes often featuring property marketing material the other thing that we've tried to do is we obviously want to be very transparent and clear now ah market and the good thing about the apartment spices that it's much easier to do that because typically. You've got stacks of apartments. You've got levels of apartments. You've got comments. Pushes similar sizes and similar flow plans so in terms of asa tiny values. It's often a lot easier. It's a more commercial equation than Quadrophenia to himes which one might be built in the seventies and on the new mega mansion you know how do you compare those two much more difficult so for us the comparison museum so we want it to be as transparent as we could. Everything from strato levies sizes of apartments two aspects. You know anything that the consumer needs are and then we've tried to package that up in a simple will but also pleasing way and someone the other day said to me look. I thought it was across Twain. You know if I saw and I had a real estate by that's God of the marketing stall that it is you know. It's very sophisticated but it's Xiaojie. We've done some really clever things in terms of mushrooms. You've seen some of the illustrations rations that we've put in place to yes so we just wanted to soften it and so I think overall in terms of the quality of the mocking that we've done where we're well-positioned well positioned in advance of anyone else in our marketplace possibly even a quality one of the best in the country even though we're only a small agency starting on our journey. I think it's really interesting just sort of coming at this time when you know there are more and more multipurpose buildings around as well like you really appealing to that sort of client who is the the buildings. I'm sort of talking about buildings that have residential commercial rail by the things that we're talking about out they will end mixed-use is is becoming more and more common and in fact hotels are also starting to see. I guess applying that spices whoa with buildings with us a pot hotel section and then apartments above above or even Crown Casino bringer and bring her is a great example of I think where the future of apartment living is headed. It's less about the building and more about about the amenity and also the community that surrounds it and so one of our jobs as agencies to help educate. Baas may not necessarily nar that market about those things so they feel comfortable with area quite often for us particularly with the inner city apartments city Piedmont surry hills Willem Louw those areas the people that are moving into those spaces are often downsizing empty nesters and so I want to be in areas of convenience. I WANNA be able to walk everywhere. I want to know this great restaurants and importantly. Some of their friends are other moving there. We'll have moved there which is a really interesting thing. That sense of community is now starting to come into these as markets. Sydney city really if you think about it is actually a relatively new marketplace. If you go back to the nineties Sydney city almost all of the apartments in the ninety s and eighty s that were built there were actually built for farmers and for people who are coming into the city to trade physically trade and so there was a lot of one bedroom room studios and beds seats and then in the nineties into the nineties into two thousand that changed with a few K. buildings like Bennelong Macquarie Apartments Walsh by the observer treats how a hi gate and San can't be when he's when Ken Straight and that started to elicit on occupies from the eastern suburbs and low north shore who didn't want to live in their big houses anymore and so I think that trend will continue and at this point in time how biggest I guess demographic of people who are wanting to move into our market at down ause as an empty nesters who selling a family harm that one a great palm with good view and a good location bill baugh quality quality bill would with cafes and shops below potentially walk to work and something of a decent size and so for us now that top into the market is really really strong went into the crown display sweets actually and it was an incredible experience and thinking about room service from five star restaurants is called detailing absolutely at some point. We don't want to give up looking. Were kitchen's not bad. So let's talk about this setup of the business so say is being set up from scratch. How did you pull it together around you. I will initially it was a team of one which was me and that was for the bulk of the planning phase kind of locked myself in my high office and pulled out all the pens and papers and kind of sketched out whereas business actually going to go what is what we want to achieve and how are we going to get there. What are the case steps suddenly for the first twenty four months and so far where almost on track in terms of the tame we we recently collaborated with another existing business cold torch property management which was announced today. I think it was announced today yeah so we're really the excited about that so one of the things for me which is really important in real estate is to have a very strong property management business as well as a strong south team and so growing a property management business is great fun but it does take a lot of time and also growing a a good. South Tame as equally fun but it also takes time so we're looking to grow both naturally as well as through acquisition but the collaboration with torch brings some really talented existing operators bright is in the coal market together without brandon philosophy and together thing. We're GONNA really shoot. The lots out. Very quickly is the goal so we've taught. How did you decide on them. What was it about torch that made them the ideal partner for you yes so they obviously had a very actually property management only business which was a NAS is fit for a which is started off at this point and Thomas Sowell's any business and I think they had the right philosophy on the owners of that business for many a us because we'd been in the market competing as colleagues and I knew that they were quality operators and extremely good with their clients and their processes and systems which is really important to me they also shed a I guess the draymond vision of creating something that was special in the market and that was also able to had the opportunity to really become the Senate Agency for the Sydney City market and so I think together we just felt that Bright Mons think alike and under a strong brand rand with a really great rent roll and now myself and Craig Donohue who's one of the areas leading agents with Georgia Patas also joining us from another agency. She's had thirty news experience and Costa Gartner. WHO's one of the best selves associates and assistance in the markets. Are we've got this phenomenal team from nothing and yeah kind of pinching myself. Yeah sounds like it's all sort of come together. It's all coming together and and it's really just the first step in our journey and we really WanNa make sure that we've solidified alcohol market I but we definitely have the desire to grow the business beyond that have been any challenges that you've had to overcome on on the Johnny too because we know that there are Ni- title ever not successes. Shaw is always a story on the right. Is there anything that you've had Shay Yeah. There is is and I wouldn't say we're in. I have an aunt success yet. We've got a long way to go to reach that point but my suddenly fill that we've identified the path. We're taking the right steps but the first first three months of the business was tough because we were actually working out fest office on Elizabeth Street is actually located under the Sheridan on the Park Hotel is a really the great location for a number of reasons but whilst that office was being fitted out we had nowhere else to work from so we are actually sitting in the lobby coming to share on the and can I say for anyone. That's actually sat in a lobby for more than about five minutes. It's phenomenal what you will say in three months of sitting in a lovey. The type of people that come and guard are the transactions the business meetings the fought the laughter and the tears. It's quite funny. Muslim market racer look that was definitely a challenging period for us and at at that stage Costa joined the team so there was two of us working from the lobby every day but we now know everybody who works in the hotel which is cool and the other thing is of course starting without momentum means that you're also starting with negative cash floor so that's obviously a big challenge. We've had to be very mindful of that and because of everything that we're doing we're taking a premium stands on out branding on the fit out of the office on everything that we're trying to do what over at shave which means that we really need to think about how we're investing our phones. We had the same problem. Actually I can relate to that because we didn't call ourselves ordinary Asian and having that sort of brand means that you can't really Jason's by half so it does make it tricky when you starting up keeps you really accountable and and I love that because it means that our vision is clearance a system that we know where we're headed uh-huh so if I could summarize it. It's like a filter way things go through your brand filter and then if it doesn't make that pepe so that brand feeling it's absolutely I guess the thing is for us to be out of carry that through leadership team through the people that way hopefully would joining us in future along saw vision for the clients to work with us. You know we wanna make sure that everyone's on the same page that we've got a happy cohesive approach to everything the way clear not secret why clever and simple and we're always is doing the very best that we can in every situation yeah so when you start a business it's exciting in some ways because you've got a blank shaded pipe on you can kind of implement things exactly the way that you want to the tools that you want to and just you just then keeping people on the same page and stuff like that. So what are the tools that you've chosen to. I sit with N. Y. Yeah so obviously the moment was still a relatively small team so thankfully I've been communication and constant communication not just e mailing pulling has been the first thing setting up prices around who you meeting when you're meeting them the one on ones a super important making sure that any big decisions that everyone in Tame is across it even if you may not traditionally want to include someone in our must be a property manager or in an assistant role in regards to a certain decision about maybe your finances or you know an office lace but by including everyone in that process with sauce team we have it's really generated a unique culture and everyone is definitely putting on the same team and charging forward so so using some of your experiences in setting up the view obeisances senses if someone listening this out they was thinking. I want to do that on a create my business from your experience. What are the most days thus a great question. Sam Opening your own business is definitely something that I would encourage anyone. WHO's thinking about it to fully explore. I think it can be extremely rewarding but it can be equally challenging and any business owner will tell you that it's it's not always arises but the rewards and the satisfaction particularly. Fa May in terms of of helping grow a team and aligning lining visions towards something which is greater than just the sum of us is the rewarding part of it the advice I'd give would be not everyone who's a great agent. Agent is a great later or a Gripe Pencil and that's actually a K. because not every principal and later would also be agent so there needs to be a role and people need to be comfortable with that a lot of people at the moment of talking about being authentic and being genuine and I think that's part of it. Is that traditionally. Only we get told that once you've sold a few houses you had a successful career in real estate after a few years then you should go on up the whatever available franchises down the road in an open your own office and that's great but actually think that's necessarily the way of the future and that's not to discourage anyone from doing. I just think that moving forward the way that I see the real estate in Sri playing out is that there will be further consolidation will be bigger brands and they'll be smaller boutique brands and ordination brands and for me the guys in the middle of probably the ones that should be most worried and unfortunately we're a cottage based industry which means most people running real estate businesses have one donald maybe two offices and at maybe between five and fifteen people and quite often. That's the most uneconomical place to be which is why a Lotta principles principles that listing and selling themselves or the late agent in that time and it's very difficult to grow a business beyond that if you'll still actively listening in selling everyday as Karol because business leadership needs direction at an AIDS say oh who's driving it conversely. I guess if you're a CEO's driving up. You don't have the right tame name. If you have an attractive the raw sales agents then how do you grow beyond that particularly with cutting edge technology a lot of social media people who are investing in a lot of video lot of social social media and pay which over things that we're also looking to invest in. How do you compete against that so long story. I think opening a business business is a very exciting thing to do but it might not necessarily knit you. Oughta the financial all the rewards personally that you're after and the only way really deny that is to try or to have an honest conversation with yourself and maybe people around you as to whether you think you might be suitable to doing that. I've seen some great agents agents out there career agents that have done exceptionally well the have way more than many principles that have a much happier more fulfilled law spend more talk with their family and their kids and so sometimes it's that balance as to what's going to be a suitable thing but if anybody is interested in wants to get started. I'd certainly be happy to have a conversation with a absolutely what is my value will pay some advice that anyone's giving you on your journey. San Mateo Water night. That's another interesting question. You're pulling out all the cracking questions. I don't know if there's a piece of advice that someone's given me. I think what I've learned undies that even through the worst the hottest and the mice trying of circumstances is actually whereas a person or an agent you learn the most I so if I look back on the career and where I am today of got a lot of those hurdles to thank for getting me he and it's as important to celebrate the recovery from an issue all something which is set you back which had been out navigate around and get back up on your fate and to celebrate those as well. Oh because without the hurdles without the challenges the winds never quite a sweet so maybe less on the advice front and more about the life experiences experiences really enjoy the journey really understand that even though you might be down with you might not have many listings at the moment your market's tough or whatever it is if you're doing the wrong thing as a person as an agent if you have a goal if you're working towards it and you have a plan and do the right thing you know. I think eventually you'll get back up on it. It teaches you grit. Doesn't it teaches you great. So what's the next goal will the first thing is we obviously want to solidify the car market the wherein and and hopefully we'll be able to do that in the not too distant future. We've got some great listings coming up already. We've got a really good rent roll and we intend to obviously grow both of those things and we'll be looking for some additional talent to join the team towards the end of this year and moving into next year once we've got that team solder will be looking for other opportunities in complementary markets pits. Are we certainly don't want to build a network of one hundred offices. We certainly want to be the biggest in the marketplace. We want to be the best of what we do and we want to do that. In areas where we feel we can have real value in high-rise or in areas which have a high proportion of high-rise apartments and strata living where there are investors who a native to help them with their return and paying their mortgage and looking after the attendance and we've got downsizes and coming executives who wanna live in great environments way. Eh this social activities this community this great restaurants and so if you think about the way that these environments growing Beranger Ru Walsh Bay behind park doc market. It's exciting and we want to be part of those areas. I can see you've got a real passion for that side of real estate so I'm sure you are going to do amazing. Blazingly will Adrian Wilson thank you to connect with all things elite agent including the latest news coaching and features subscribing grinded L. website elite agent dot com.

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Real Talk  - Of Lockdowns and Growing The Hell Up!

Real Talk with Smriti Notani

00:00 sec | 6 months ago

Real Talk - Of Lockdowns and Growing The Hell Up!

"Hub hopper originals. Hello everyone this is a d. and you're listening to real talk quits. Medina Danny Popo written with other really precarious point dime with what with a global pandemic and quarantine and a lockdown? It's literally unprecedented. We have never experienced anything like that before in our lifetimes balance and I don't think I mean even generations before them have so before they even get started. I just wanted to that. If you want to listen to something lighter I have been making A lot of content regarding the lockdown my previous episode was on a hundred ideas for things you can do during this lockdown so you may want to check that out the one before that was on creativity how you can harness it during this lockdown but these topic is a little different because it's a little more in the realm of may be a personal ruled a little philosophical spiritual. I like these thoughts that come to me pretty often these days. I get boosts of inspiration ulta get Bush so things I eighty and I know that this pretty common like a lot of us have a lot of. Todd's right now but the idea of this episode was to explore some these teams and also make sure that we talk about the things that are actually going to hate us You know we all talk about self love but sometimes self love has to be tough love. And Right now we've got to stop bullshitting ourselves on certain things. The lockdown will be over so narrowly though but the idea is to use this experience to come out stronger. Wiesel camel don't date so that's the idea of this episode in general. I should warn you that I'm quite bought him out and I say things as they come to my mind. I should also warn you that it always obviously patrols not going to mince words. Let me preface the entire episode by saying that You know I'm I'm sorry if any of you are really struggling right now I know this is not an easy time for a lot of people and nor disrespect is meant from my end when I talk about the things that I do talk about if you are going through a particularly challenging die my heart goes out to you. My prayers are with you I'm not trying to put anybody down. The idea like I said is to just grow from this and toughen up an Oscar says so important questions So yeah with that being said. Let's get into the episode so I live in Bombay. Which as you newest quintessentially agility fast paced city right You don't born and bred. Do I I feel like I have two distinct parts of my personality. One is definitely the Bombay Hustle which is the great Indian. Joe God and also being really g you know sort of impatient and Julie being hyper and I definitely have that to me. You know like the whole like I need. I need to discuss this now. I need to get done with this. I HAVE A to do list and you know that that side of me and then I think that have the same with me which is the right though the the one who needs to take it slow which is also why. I'm so terribly nocturnal and I love my nighttime. I love the fact that does not want to disturb me at that point. And you know what no one's rushing me if I wanNA think slowly. I can't think slowly if I WANNA ride slowly I can write slowly foundered research something before any too darn. It and I have the time to do that so obviously this episode is not only about what what is what happens in my life but The reason the reason I'm starting with this is that I think wintertime right now where we are forced to slow down and as I observe it. A lot of people are uncomfortable with this. Okay For me personally. I've been working from home for the last couple of yours so you do not allow this jeans also in my life in my routine in that sense I know that for people who are so dependent on on their own schedules and their own routines. It's hard to talk to like just being an. It'll kind of aimless at home and work from home and I know that that is not something to be enjoyed by all having said that and you might disagree with MobiNil but is slowing down or alone time or solitude. Something scary do you like. Is it something that you why heating and if so why why are YOU HEATING UTAH? One thing that I feel strongly about life is that we may pegged on a lot of things me it may become about. Our work may become about. Our family may become about life partners or are robe love inches so whatever we make it about but at the end of the day isn't don't we have to go to sleep alone without thoughts like are you back much. The rigmarole of dying yourself out to a point that if you're left alone with your thoughts before sleeping that actually is an uncomfortable sensation. So it's just I feel like the Pointing out that solitude is not the worst thing and if it is the worst thing you then to probe yourself into our skill set that why. Why is that the worst thing for me? I mean not enough can be said about enjoying your company like it is very important in life to yourself like if you met you would you like you? I think that's a very relevant question because seriously like if you don't like yourself then it impacts all your relationships it impacts just every interaction that you have actually you know imacs just the way you conduct yourself the way you dress the way you what you think what you speak every part of you is impacted by this one thing so if you genuinely like you then some alone time should not be the worst thing again. I. I did give the disclaimer right in the beginning. That of course it's challenging if you're absolutely alone all through the lockdown so this is not about that but I know people who are you know surrounded by family and everything and still feeling a bit You know getting a little annoyed by just this extra alone. Dime some more motive. Broadly talking to those people Why is it bothering you? So much Wise this longtime bothering you so much. I'm not saying maybe you have an answer to that question. And maybe that answer is a very Valid one but It's just a taught that I want you to ponder on. You know because when's lockdown is over and when we're on the other side Maybe that is made it instant holding onto a bit of alone time because if you don't allow yourself to stop and wonder about the important things in life then who I really like. You're just you know it's just as an actor you stand right so do you like you. What can you change to like you? Can you start enjoying your alone time? Maybe you need to explore ways to do that It's just you know it's just something I wanted to bring up I. It's not that I have a concrete on so for you because obviously I don't know where your thoughts are leading you right now. Maybe maybe the person you the person listening is like you know what I don't need Joe. I love my alone time. Maybe I don't know and I'd love that for you personally. I like my lawn and I'd like to keep it that we and when we're out of this lock down and redone. This is something I'm definitely holding onto the next thing that I want to talk about is where are you on the acceptance scale like? Have you found yourself? But but truly cribbing about why people are going live on instagram or via people making dogs. Eliah people pretending they're chefs now. Is that bothering you a lot? Because I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that's bullshit you should matter to you. How people are coping like you need to understand. It's really tough time out there in this world and everyone's doing the best. They can to stay in and stay afloat and other agenda. Just a general thing is that we have no idea what is going on. In people's homes we just see a projected image nowadays on Social Media. And that's that becomes a reality. We have no idea like I know for the fact that I am because I have a history of having had a. I mean I've had before and things like that and I've always had shit immunity. I come on the highest category so for example. I've had to be extra paranoid this quarantine and I know that that's something that maybe even my closest friends have not taken into account or they don't remember that which is fine. Which is okay but my ting is that it's to a point to you that people don't really know from the outside from the outside. I'm just creating content. Making podcasts chilling. Just making the most of it But that's the best I can do. I ca- I don't WanNa go crying to everything he said. I'm so highest. This is so stressful. That stresses for me to lose sleep over and that's that so I mean I'm just. I'm just sharing perspective that you have no idea how this is impacting people and that's like an underlying. That should always be with you so yes it shouldn't Really fucking bother you. What people are doing how they're coping you? I went to live on my instagram for like two weeks street. Okay I- branded it. I called the night shift and I was just going live getting on board to like doing it with guests like a proper talk show and integral lauder for at Fort and but I did it in a in a nice way. I'm real happy with how that activity don't doubt Spoke about some amusing important things with some amazing people. Let me just put it like that and I just you know you get a sense when people feel like why. Why the hell are you going live every day on? Why you doing this or tension-seeking and my point to you is. I'm using it in the best way possible. Do you know probably share with my orden's some amusing minds that I have access to. So what the Hell is anybody's bugged? I'm not anyone given told me anything. You know what I'd call it out and Adele. Someone told me something but you also get a sense of what people are thinking right My thing is why why like do not sit and be a Sowell. Bush do not sit and just judge people for how they're coping. Everyone's got their own way. And even if that is absolute unproductively like maybe there is someone in your life and you're judging them for being really sluggish and unproductive but did allowed. You did allowed and this all ties in with it mental health than how it still to this day. It's like literally a joke in our country because we may share and reshare all sorts of support of things on social media. But the truth is we don't even recognize it when it's in our own homes enough families amongst friends we don't even recognize it so honestly if someone's being deadly unproductive around you and you con son. What the hell they're doing with their lives. You know I just want to point it out and maybe a mental health issue so you may want to be gentle and you may want to look into that but yeah ingende except that everyone has their own. We'd go and You know I was reading this interesting article and I also discussed this with a mental health. Professional on one of these lives that I did. But what we're going to right now it's literally can be compared to stages of grief By that I mean like everything. The prevailing now in joining this global pandemic can be compared to you know grief and how one goes through grief again. Refer something I've talked about in podcast before you should know that I've had a tryst with grief and that do not too long ago so I can testify that this is true A lot of what? We're going to right now. Denial Albeit You know just absolute hopelessness at all. It's this is how grief feels guys saw I mean it's it's no joke and none of us will feel what the other person is feeling at the same time right so I definitely went through this like in the beginning. I felt super productive like all my Gordon. I can win this World War and I think I went like what two three weeks like that and then it died down and now I'm feeling die ought to do the same tasks of feeling a bit listless at times so. I didn't experience what everyone else experienced. Like maybe I think most people flaws got a little overburdened. Diode and then now. They've coped better. And it's gone the other way for me so I mean I'm just. I'm not sharing the stuff for sympathy offer. You do kind of Opo But his just like I want you to know that not. Everybody will have the same trajectory. That's all so Yeah Acceptance Honestly. It's a good time to grow up and to accept that everyone's going to deal with this their own we at their own pace and does just something that makes it sold that we have to get on board with we just have to. There's like that's not always about it another thing that we honestly should be doing right now. is focusing on our wounds shit and by that. I mean like it's all well and good to spend our entire days crawling Graham checking out content creators Bidding some applauding the others but what is up in our own. Lives like what is happening. What does that game plan? What does the future look like? Not a little scary to go there. But I'm Saudi again to be the president of brigadier but does lockdown will end at some point right. I think it's a good time to go back to the drawing board. Kind of we. You know if you meet a vision board at the beginning of this year it maybe time to revisit that see what you want to add to it. Subtract from it. I'm not saying you have to sing. It might be a good time to look at the Oil Jim Flanagan. It makes sense and it all to keep you occupied when you focus on your own shit like like I said I mean if it's something that if creating content is important to me right now than I've got a drought the voices and do that so identify whatever that looks like to you and just do it. I think that another important thing to think about right now is odd relationships so I know this is tricky. But it's a good time to just evaluate because we don't get to do that in the League Nhl so just evaluate like. Why are I mean? Do know who your real ones are like. Do you know where your friends are. You know whether your relationship is is a solid one. I know that some people with their partners in the lockdown on some people on. So if you're not with your partner House this time been on you know for the two of you like are you sick of your person. Just being I don't know just not being good at communication. I duNno whatever it is. I feel like this is as real as life gets. Okay a virus that has put a foot of S- panel in the works of the entire world like sometimes I can't even I. It definitely seems. Like I'm watching some apocalyptic goal shore movie or Ace. It's crazy like it's an episode of black middle. That's what it is but Yami I think it's a good time to think about. Way Watt where we all not in our relationships right like for me. I think it's come to light that there are certain friends who I do not probably see all the time but I need to have them in my life. I need to keep talking to them. I need to know what they're up do. I need to stay in touch. I mean that's a huge realization for me and then there are the other friends who can be considered outdoor so good and Maybe it's okay if I talk to them in a few months it's absolutely fine so I think it's I tink that because we have the extra time maybe we can sit and evaluate. Who really gets to be a soccer and who really gets to be out of circle as for family relationships in that sense You know toxic relationships as a whole different topic but I just wanted to say that. I'm Saudi if you're stuck with someone who you're not happy being stuck with right now in this lockdown but at the end of the day like I said the lockdown will end. And if you feel that somebody's life really tough right now and they don't they just don't get you right now then Please know that you're noticing it right now and this is just how the person is anyway. This is how the person is through the your and you me. WanNa keep your distance in some way from this person wants. This lockdown is over. You may be living in the same house. But it's about the distance that you keep in domes of how involved is this person in your life in your decisions. Can they know everything about you? Can they be as updated as you normally keep them? Maybe that's not the best idea. Maybe you they don't want what is best for you. And maybe this lockdown is the dime that you have realized that so I'm sorry this is like harketting stuff but I think that very easy to run and hide from it but sometimes you got to face it and I think that you know right now whether that phase where we've been in lockdown so long and even if it extends just assuming extent it is going to end at some point like maybe a couple of weeks later. Maybe a monthly though but it is going to end and we need to start looking at what we want life to be. Once it's done you know. So that's that's just where it's coming from not trying to rain on your parade and say hey listen what kind of relationships that in your life but it may be time to and you'll know from within If it's something what I'm saying is resonating with you and if it's something you really want to focus on you will know from within you won't have to second guess anything. If you feel I'm right you're GONNA do it after this podcast. So that's all I WANNA say about that. Another important topic. That has come up for me in. This lockdown is which area of my life needs. Help realistically I think everyone can relate to the fact that at least one issue of life has some lack or has something lacking I feel it's only human so does nothing to be ashamed of. I don't think she has a place in this in dial activity that we're trying to do For me that area would be a discipline. I struggled with discipline because I'm very hardworking. But I'm not disciplined so by that I mean I've eject structure as It it's hard for me to do things at the time that they're supposed to be done where it is. I'm we'll get to work. Double the dime at another point in in the scheme of things but okay so I mean to make simple. I don't mind working all night of but I can't just I just don't WanNa wake up so I mean this is a it's a classic discipline and structure issue of for me. That's a it's a big one that also means that you know so certain. Domestic chores detector can't happen when they need to happen. Which means I'm feeling on the domestic front right so that is my glaring glaring problem. What is that glaring problem for you? I think it's time we stop shooting ourselves and actually get to what the problem is and I don't know what area of your life it's impacting. Maybe it's impacting your work. Maybe it's impacting your personal life. It could be impacting your marriage. It could be impacting. I don't know just anything But I think definitely it's time to check which area of your life needs because we're going to get do like I said we're GonNa get to a phase where lockdown is done and then what and then what right shouldn't we try and do this that. I shouldn't be trying to focus on the right on the right things I think it's another way to go about this is where do we want to be in the next? Maybe one year two years see. Obviously this bend amicus toughtested planning everything to the never works. A lot of US had plans for life of things that we may need to relook at right so it's not the idea is not oh my. God shed yourself because there's one thing that we've learned is that we've do a roll with the punches having said that it doesn't mean we totally disillusioned. I mean oh where. Where do we want to go like? Where where do we see ourselves like? What is it like? Do you want to be married in the next three years? Do you want to be divorced in the next three years? Do you want to be a better in the next three years? Do you want to be successful in the next two years? Do you want to buy a house in the next three years? Do you want to change your job in the next three years. Do you want to turn into an entrepreneur? The next two or three years whatever it is. I see this fucking. You're working on that plan right now. Like I'm not trying to put pressure on people who are not feeling like right now but those of us who can do that. Those of us who who are watching one show after the dog. And we know that we can use this time battle I'm not seeing any woke. Now who's asking you to sit with a with a spreadsheet? Don't do that but I'm asking you to join new like write it in your book. Would you want from life like literally? Just take a bland. Bijan Start. I believe it's called you know. Actually I'm not sure I was going to say it's called free writing or something like that but basically he doesn't have struck job. It's just fighting like just all you're taught down on people and I think that I think that it might be time to do that. where do you see yourself give an us at? The limit may be the next one. Yummy WE DO. We we three years five years. You said that limit. I can't do that you I honestly can't I think I wanna see you personally. If you ask me I think I wanna see it as as a one year plan but you may WanNa see. Does it to your plan. And that's fine to my point is does gotta be some idea eight just because it's a global pandemic doesn't mean we completely let go off the idea that we also should be working towards our dreams. Dreams don't just happen baby. They need to rework done. So that's that's just the reality of what it is. And lastly I just want to tell you that at point with everything that's going on in this would stupid. Optimism might just be the until You know don't knock the optimists right. Now don't knock the people saying that. The universe has a back door. Knock the people who think that their God will save us all because trust me we need the optimus. If you are a cynic or if the spend Emiko has done do into a cynic fair enough not to say that you don't have a point but at the end of the perpetual petrol. Optimism is a force multiplier. So I learned this from a friend but Islander scored from a friend. I don't know whether it's originally from but I really live live at. I live destroyed in my life. I think it's it takes a lot of courage and a lot of stamina g to be perpetually optimistic but it works it works it works because you are constantly expecting the best outcome so you're trying to you know you're trying to just make every idiot of your life greet and you know sometimes in those in those reward moments where everything in your life seems a line than it actually seems great. You're like fuck ya like. That's my optimism talking. I knew this deal would come so We're going to have to be optimistic through this right because you know that there is excuse me you know that there is no end to the Google searches on corona virus. The you know that there is no end to the distressing news. You know that there is no end to thinking about our economy. You know that there is no end to thinking about whether we will have woke or jobs. Or what's going to happen due on monthly incomes There's no end to it. That is known to it. And that's a whole my friend. I don't know who's going to get us out of if not ourselves right. So even if it makes no sense I don't know man like we've gotta be optimistic. And stupidly soared eighty even if it if it makes no sense like I would like to think that wants. This is Ovo. We're going to be at this point where we appreciate life so much more. That's my stupid optimism talking. I feel like the next time I get my friends. It's going to be the most special long magical hug able and our friendship is going to be at another level in life. You know Yeah that's really what I feel. I feel like I'm going to value every date night with my talk. No so much more. I'M GONNA value family gatherings even even family who says You Know Stupid. Shit and kind of You know the kind of family gatherings that we tend to roller is that I might even enjoy those like you never norte. So the truth is that it's going to take It's GONNA TAKE OPTIMISM. Due to think that wants this oval and for the first time we favorite food again and the first time we dig a walk on a street we love and the first time we do. We go shopping again and the first time we just see the people we wanna see. It's GonNa be like each time is like an orgasm. Sita's so I know you didn't see that coming. I didn't think I'd say it either but I'm just saying like Em Ford Ecstatic feelings. Now like just think it's GonNa be amazing because honestly thinking otherwise is not getting us anywhere. It's just making us some stress eat and stress sleep and lose sleep and God knows what else so. Yeah I mean I'm stupidly. Optimistic would invite you to be the same. Okay so I have to admit that this episode of Got Quite S- US and by that I mean that I literally said everything that's on my mind. I felt like this lockdown is forcing us to keep it very real. Because I don't think there's any point any modern shooting each other. I love that you know even when you get on a on a zoom call with someone or whatever. House body caller. What's up and people are like dude? Today I was so screwed today. This happened today. My back voting. Today I had a Shit Day. Today had so much work to the adding eighty. I'm sorry I live for that. Shit not because Mercedes but because I loved that winnow normal having the conversations were not doing the high. Have you what up your? Everything's fine on much the usual wide. We ever fucking do that. I don't get it like it is time to change that up. An louder with all being with each other and this episode in a sense was just my Linda. Damned at asking you to keep it super with yourself as well. This lockdown is warning us all to face our demons and I think we shouldn't hide from that we should take it head on and Before this gets longer the intention was never to return. That's why I share my stuff with you as wet. I hope you enjoyed this episode. Stay safe stay home be happy. Try and keep your says mentally in a good place. Do whatever it takes and they get lots of love as you know. You can reach me on instagram. 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Animation Podcast 135 - Brett Bean on Building a Successful Freelancing Business

The Bancroft Brothers Animation Podcast

00:00 sec | 11 months ago

Animation Podcast 135 - Brett Bean on Building a Successful Freelancing Business

"Welcome to the BANCROFT brothers animation. podcast this is a show about the past present and future of animation and all things related hosted by former Disney animators directors and authors. Tom Bancroft and Tony Benn brought. This podcast is sponsored by todd by a pro dot com. The place on the web to watch art instruction videos by the top prose and comics animation. Character Design and concept art in another. See An an expo breakfast with the band cross. The twins dine with character designer Brett Bean. He discusses the life of a freelancer. And the do's and don'ts that will help you get ETA job enjoy and now here's the Bancroft brothers and welcome to another bankrate brothers animation podcast. This is Tom. I'm here without Tony just to pop really quick before this great podcast with Brett Bean. I really think you're going to joy this podcast. It's really fantastic. A lot of real eye the opening things that Pratt says about the freelance lifestyle. Really enjoy popping in here really quick just to say we have an exciting thing going on taught by a pro my company where we do online art instruction. We're doing a really special thing. Where every once in a while we do an extended twelve week make kind of a master class and so it's an extended learning opportunity with a live instructor? So this is one part video. One Part Live instruction and it's all all about storyboarding we're calling this one storyboarding and it's with Shane Sowell. Shane sow is instructor. And he is somebody that has has been storyboarding for the simpsons for a long time now many years since two thousand six and he's also worked on the hill and many many other things So He's the instructor and what he's going to do is he's put together. Six prerecorded instructional videos. That at the end he gives on an assignment. And then you guys will get together after a week or two to work on set assignment you get together any do a six live Internet meet ups with the entire class. And so it's limited. Seating and Shane will review many. If not all and he'll take turns but he'll review a lot of the work. You'RE GONNA learn from your peers. What they did with the exact same challenge that they were presented with that you're presented with you're gonNA learn from them? You're going to learn from Shane. Of course too. So let me tell you that if you've been thinking about especially in the new year coming up getting into storyboarding into TV animation. This is the class for you. AH YOU'RE GONNA learn from a pro. There's limited seats. We haven't discounted price going right on right now but it ends soon like this weekend. So get on this right away. We really needed to fill up this class. Or what. Have the opportunity until another time. We don't know wimmer to present this classic. If if you're interested just go to top. by Pro Dot Com and click on the link that says storyboarding for animated television at wishing Sowell. Thank you so much and now enjoy the breakfast with the bankrupts with Brett Bean. Hey everybody welcome to the bankrupt brothers and if they should podcast while we've never done that together it was kind of fun. Creepy kind of like parent trap. I don't know anyway. We're here at C. T. N. Nation Expo. So thank you guys for joining us here and we're doing another breakfast with the Bancroft brothers. Figured this is animation expert Twenty nineteen. I want people to know that because I guess we've done breakfast at the Bancroft many times through the throughout the years and this is one of them. So here's a little bit of what you guys can expect this morning. Yeah this follows right up front. 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I think that's why he's smiling all the time because he knows he has just what the artists needs. These got a wallet and a sketchbook put together that is is what a schedule it is and he opened up. You got your cards and your by fold in there you can throw your money in there. You've got your ide- ready to go and then and business cards here here at seats about him row. He's a jokester. Tony killing a little silly jokes and psycho up. Then I go on there and it's like it's too big big from my front pocket. I don't know if I click then Bam here's the face throws me. I'm I'm like a couple of hours away when I said that he just wings it at me and Bam. It's face with one post it note size. He's got a post. It's it's amazing. You just put little heads in there. That's what I do for feet. I've seen he's got another one. That's like game card size. So if you like this little cards and stuff like we'll call them. Trading trading cards trading card size love. 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You've come in years and years to when your loved right this is your love your love correct you before you'd say the wrong thing. Perjury EH boxer. Box Expo lightboxes. Well a young like Emerald Condon's Seattle Rose City Portland. I pretty much stay on archivist uh-huh yeah wonder designer Khanna couple years. It's the same weekend so it's hard to choose wife to designer con booth the arguing simultaneous by that on your art and we'll she was. She's a jewelry designer designer and she used to make miniature doll house pieces so she used to do the circuits as well in her circle things so she'll do the miniatures so she likes. She likes atmosphere being conventions engines show. Yeah she's like. Oh no I like this. This is my thing and then once we had the kids in it got it gets harder to join the law of kids kids so we have an eight month old old. We have a five year old okay. You're stressed out. That's why you got the gray and the beard Yes for Gandalf the grey. I'm a sore on getting close one giant Thomas Sore on my back. Aw in your net could've been better. Okay Winston that up to rights. Thank you so much for getting cocky. I'm good with that. Thank you think we've talked about this before but I get my coffee just right or like my three sugars and Mike I know and then they come up they dowsett copying. I'm late start all over again. I can get some Beth perfect formula. It just doesn't takes like coffee anymore. Do they are I. You can see this because you can't but they are trying trying to make it into a candy bar the amount of sugar and brown sugar and she let her came with like ten Hackensack Atkinson Sugar and we're down to four and we laughed. They were like oh she thinks we're diabetes. Get through this this anyway. Back to you brad actors. I WanNa hear the kind of constant reduce. Thanks for saying that but you keep it local as so you can drive to them at all your stuff mostly drive and then plus because on the business side you start to break down how much it costs get hotels flights and all the stuff if you can go okay which one makes sense. Got A new graphic novel coming out this year so I'll probably extend to the Middle East Coast when that comes out. Barbeque Commotion Graphic. Now I supported your way back when the first one. You did spaced out space. I I still have it. Oh good I'm glad I still have a copy to do that. Now I I've just not one and then I hitched to penguin England workshop. The new graphic novel tuition for them from England. Bucks book deal. I'll be doing too is indifferent to do this. I'm very excited like it's your property. Sure thing we just want the rights to publish great. Let's do it so came up with a new story. Visit Bucket list of Mike Okay. I don't think I'm going to get there get there. I'm SORTA. It's a loose one because I got a little higher lower and lower take my own back to thousands early two thousand called opposite forces and so I feel like I've experienced that but but I haven't experienced it with a major publisher I self published and I loved the idea of doing it. So tell me lucrative are we making money even if they don't so well you're making money because you get like a band and you're like okay. This is this is what you get to make and now it's not saying bankroll the time he put it. There's no way graphic novel will not possible but I would say that it's been great because it's something again it's it's I haven't done it so it's it's very interesting to do it from that side instead of just kind of being in hopefully good. It's more we're like. Oh you're working with an editor or how about the suggestion. How about this change? They really help out and plus they helped me get into free comic Book Day. What did he? It is needed. A GIG at one of the comic shop exactly cool basically GONNA be next year. It's yeah it's GonNa be really. We didn't really get that sugar already. I asked the wooden top. Yeah very specific. Almost other people it's left these Californian come on and see they they like it's about grow off okay so I love where you're headed here because I'm sure we have many listeners. That have sort of entertained or thought or dreamed of this Of being you basically right now those people. Yeah Yeah always time about being the being. It's one of those in the bean. They were you before you go into that. 'cause I WANNA give give a highlights reel kind of version of your career listeners. You're GonNa say let's pray before we. Yeah Yeah yes so. Let's see I started out as a three D. environment artist. I worked for Sony Making Video Games. Thanks so my first job was was doing three environment stuff and it was real world starts. I worked on so-called Navy seal game in very realistic or a fine scenarios. I I remember I had like real navy's okay so maybe cells inside from shelter and the old school Sony Games and then one day I i. I had to design a swimming full of bodies that had been asked. And that's when I went to my newly. Mary said I can't Eisenhart me. This throws feeling excuse for kids to play. Well I mean kids play violent video games but no this was like no. It wasn't government playstation playstation. Right so for the appropriate. I was not making appropriate kids. James Literally Research for that stuff. Yeah so you go home with it and then you go. I don't WanNa do this any it seems like can i. Can I quit. And she's like sure. Yeah just pack up. The House moved to California in. Let me try tribe artist what I WANNA do like sure. Yeah so I I really did. He doubled down or you did in your request of like of Kenan quit owned by like the process spend more money and moved to California and with no job taking a big risk. Wow that's a good lady. Yeah she is very in your Craig. Hey how you doing good just three thousand breakfast around Omelettes and pancakes. Good place for them. It was thank you guys you guys are very host yesterday. Thank you up test you know. Hopefully that Pencil missile test will help me. Give me some Hamm's on back to be needed to look at that famous guys. Come up to you while you're eating breakfast. say go to sign my forehead. The worst of that your lovely little why he deliver Wyatt Goat. Let's go to California. Let's see how do you think he has never remarried our honestly shoot. We got married. She you took off to do a trade show in Japan and that was probably two weeks after we got married she yeah she took off because you had already plan wows often. I called her from from outside the studio. Can I quit. Yeah when we get back. We'll figure it out and give it to me. I can't hear you I'm in Japan. I can't think again it's fine so I mean that's that's all was then I started. Uh Out in California. We packed up on your source. They're young then we came out here. You're got a studio apartment in studio city. That's funny yes. Group are in Studio City. Just did that for awhile give gigs. It didn't get anything and so I went to affect scientists inside classes. 'cause I never took art classes. WHO's like three really and ask you may says it's the beginning anyway? I was like food. Wisconsin cited wigwam. Did you go to art school Yeah when I went to Japan which is really learned in the craft of drawing and illustration aside so I took psych classes loan digital painting and eventually got a job in Austin Texas and then bounce from there to San Francisco Seattle Seattle back to California and I was like I'm done moving her around. This is like she's been another adventure and I was like okay. We're in California. I'll do freelance until I find a studio job right on ten years later on. Doing freelance for ten years is thank you. I don't think you ever do. You have any sense. Besides the one that will happen against the violence not here on. It's all been freelancing working and I was like oh well that worked out maybe next year. I'll get a studio job. I worked out. It was and so it just it accidentally happened. There have been by now opportunity so you there has been doing it. Sounds like no. I'm not pursuing it. Well okay so now you guys are in a way in La and he you start going back to school start going back to school. Is that beneficial. That leads Yeah so it led to so here. We laughed because we had no plan. I I left Sony with. No money. Didn't take any bonuses. Because I left before the game came out everything. And so we came up with nothing actually worked at the Burbank. Gamespot selling my own gangs while I tried to get a job from how it was it was like so like a better irony. I WANNA get the scheme in like. Oh this game faces right your guest op amp aggressively. I didn't have any money glasses so I I actually answered the phone so if you hold nobody fax in early two thousand S. I was the one who answered the fight. Did yeah our refrigerator. Tau Better go grab it like what's Newman. Anyway Sundial the logos it's a little factoid that We had no idea that you have this. He went through some real struggle. Then it sounds like definitely on purpose by accident on purpose. Because you've put yourself into a situation where you just had to make it right. Yeah Yeah you know. Also we were a little bit older so I didn't go to. I didn't start arts that Japan until I was like twenty four graduated twenty eight so it was like restarting the career like thirty when my wife and I started scary or are you the type of person where you like I can do it. I just believe in myself definitely scary. I I I have to make myself get to the point of believe in yourself. My first one is always at a disadvantage of myself. I've never gotten that new. I always feel like you're very confident person. Yeah it's it's come over time and that time is when he was very scary because you know you just get married near the one who's kind of the bread earn and you're like Oh okay all right. I really rely myself. But there's a moment of jumpings scared jumping Alannah my feet somehow and then over the years as you that fear goes away. 'cause you're like Oh yeah I have landed on. Every time I'm capable to weather the storm stuff so yeah it's it's gotten now. How does that and tell me how? And I'm sorry the interviewee ever gets to eat. Sorry there's two of US drilling But what about this so. I'm kind of going slow to help you out. So the day to day of being freelancer answer is because you're saying okay. I have confidence that I can now go cat like I can get work but there are so many variables because I've live this life to within the free world that you do not control payment com. Come on time and the next John. How often often you heard all this jobs coming really want you to do it? How great great? It's going to start in a month right. Oh and then by the way that month goes by and you filled it with other work now. Oto were delayed. It's going to be another month right. Here's a case in point yet literally have had a client that has called me about two major studio client started in March madness year. We're sitting here in November march. This year I got the first call of interest. Yeah right and then summertime checking in whereabouts takeoff here starting. Then don't you don't hear from them for months check in with them. Oh it looks like it's GonNa be October September. I just heard from them on the literally bumped into one of the representatives here on automation floor. Oh we're starting January. Love heavy part of it. Oh my gosh I mean that's almost a year uh-huh spent right and I was told December during different dates. And that's how they get you. Yeah so that's what's hard about that. So tell us about living in that world because I know our listeners WanNa hear that side of it too which is negative of course but how do you. How do you control your income at you? You you know. Be Really Business Savvy. I always have at least three months saved up for in case something happens in case. Somebody doesn't pay in payments so I always make sure that I that Egged there and I have it in a separate accounts like a mastercard run very high interest. Actually we don't have any credit cards. They got my wife out of debt out on that so yeah so immune responsible on financial. He has become that way When she was younger she she likes to travel and do a lot of stuff and live the lifestyle album calculating the means to it but she has learned from that experience we got? We spent a long time getting her out of debt. You know credit cards Dave Ramsey Guy Dave Ramsey financial very much about not having guests. I have a house so I know who owns the house. It's not me the credit card debt. He's he doesn't go so far to see the old flat out or you. Have you paid off right. So so. That's that's probably the nicest thing is I always know that I have a three month. We'd have that little life like a luxury when it happens egill stress as you get the month with multiple kids now that yeah so now that you're kind of it's it's single earner household 'cause she's home with the kids so so generally on the shoulders but I I work in games. TV Gum or games illustration children's books so if one dot com comic books now but so if one of those venues is slow like you know in the film. There's always people making video games TV shows and stuff so I've gotten a nice. I've been lucky and fortunate enough to have a little bit everything to wear. There are a lot of different clients will contact me. Go can do that. Oh Yeah I come from a bunch of different advocates exactly working systems. That ok uh-huh In this is against the freelancer lifestyle. You GotTa admit you have this kind of say yes to almost everything. Having I mean like there's often times where you're like I come five jobs because I thought a couple would fall out. They they all. They didn't unfortunately now. I have five jobs on. Yes yeah his. It's an interesting thing to jump into saved. I'm always interested in how desperation plays into the freelance world. Because I felt like I was made the worst choices choices my career when I felt desperate like podcast. Yeah okay heard word. There was more best version the first couple of years where I thought. Oh my gosh I better take it because who knows if it's ever gonNA come now after ten years. No so when you're in a studio you can't say no right. There's no no you say like yes I yes I can dude I can plug that whole. I'm a problem solver. As a freelancer know becomes the most powerful word because you can actually say something so when they say like Oh you take this price and you know I have the luxury like actually recently say like no. I'm not going to take that job. It's too low or it's like that. Yeah astronomical the amount of work for the pay so you kind of go that's not so and you know Oh something will always come up. Something won't yeah so I I come to trust that instead of kind of low balling myself I go this is it and then of course you know two weeks later comes up okay. Yes the metal pay for the job for half. The price next job comes into weeks later and pay me actual price. I didn't I'm not out. Yeah it's been just so it's been very fortunate. Plus it it. Does he goes well. No I'm worked much. I Ryan good job. But I've done young batch jobs because if I feel like I'm being used I were grumbling not so. I know that I'm doing disservice to their project as well if I feel like I'm kind of going on being taken advantage right it'll show so I try not to do that and totally. Just give my best to sir. Thank you I'm sorry. Your coffee was fixed perfectly. I know she came to refills headlines once more like no yeah I was hanging on is everywhere too but if some touching my food I it gets your radar. Oh come bring me more or take something from me and I don't know it. We'll do. This is so good and interesting. I think for everybody listening and I know it's a and it's hard and here you are. Would you say you're at the point now that you really love the freelancer I do. I look for opportunities with WHO I want to work and the projects more than just all take it. Sure will it pays. Sure I'll take it so now it's I'll go back to a studio if it would be. We're talking with people that I really enjoy and is there projects where it's kind of a big project like in your local out. We want you to be in house apple months you do that I would do that. Yeah of course. Yeah especially if it's the right. People have always wanted to work with project. Sure I can. I'm still within driving. Business usually usually be like. Oh will you come in. And let's have some POW meetings for a couple of days until they get squared away and you're like how much maybe for that. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. And then he just like the rest of the work at home and then we'll meet once it'll be so every every time has been given now. I gotta say that stood. I'm always interested in this but I have the answer. Is I assume you did not charge by the hour or even by Jud by the day sometimes by the products like that. Hey come in for this meeting or you're gonNA charge. It's like a day rate for that. I won't do a day rate this adult. They'll do by the hour if they're like Oakland and their studios and our way they have a three hour day. Okay Yeah you're GONNA get half a day but I have a structure for everybody so there's all these clients and some people are five projects summer like we just need 'cause they wanNA shotgun approach. We don't know what we want so we can. Can we pay you. Were Davis kind of blue style. You can. And then we'll kind of like have conversations back and forth more like Hasbro has a different schedule right games as a different idea. So contracts are so different than I go. Which way works for you? You want to do it by project by our by day rate by week wait you want to do and then I just sort of go. Okay and backtrack and say well this is my our rates. This would be my daily rate which you might meet the Reagan. It just kind of have all planned out. They feel like they're much more in charge and I'm trying to be in two of their again album. Solve that much more work if you try. The problems often people contact. You are not artists their sort of their. HR They're they're hiring group if it's a big enough company and they yeah. They are used to dealing with artists of like that but a are used to like. Well what do you want me. You just tell me a price right back. Come in and you're Kinda educated about the process in your scale. I can do this this your offer packages but I wanNA put out for the audience's insist listening not offensive like you said it's you're trying to help them out and say I have an understanding of the land of how I could be paid. They showed up demanding that I would like to work this out. You're giving them options. They automatically know you know your business. You've done this before they appreciate that observes but then you're also kind of laying at their feet to give give you options as maybe they have a structure in their budget. Laid out that we're GONNA pay per hour we're GonNa have you need a certain amount on people so that means that we're going to be on more day raid or something worse probably better through a budget and you're kind of coming in and saying I want to help you. You help me work this out. So it's synergistic is. Everyone feels like they're part of it might yet there. There's there's thing you're going to be satisfied. We both shot his fight with the deal. And then here's the other side of being a freelancer that we haven't even gotten to that. Your reputation is based on but two maybe three different name points right. Maybe your price you know. Can they afford you and all that kind of stuff that will help them a phone a little bit clearer your work number one right for quality but then lastly dependability. Ain't gonNA make our schedule. Work is GonNa do what we need to do on time that we have a lot of talk important. That is that I would say for longevity. That's the most important one because they get paid once for client for then you'll never get paid for them again. Yeah so me. Most of my work comes from repeat performance. They will come back and say oh you is on time. He wasn't a jerk. We've got exactly we asked for great and so the next project comes up like we need a problem solving somebody. I know somebody and art lucky for me. Art Records will tell each other like looking for somebody is having a hard time out. Yeah I know somebody right here and so most of my work on this from repeat it clients not just looking up center percent. I agree with that three years. That's been the same for me and it's really the way you survive as answers kind of pass. Something is okay. I have enough regular heard rumors that this next year might need something so yeah I can kind of go our pass this up. It looks like they've been pretty regular some probably have something you know and and I don't know if your if your wife's that way I'm my wife's business manager and she she's she's always in by business manager so she's always always like asking me like what do you think next month and I can we. We have these discussions and I love it. Actually because I need that. She's the one that does all our bills. She's the financial person in our family. She's a smart one. Yeah and so. We need to have to help budget the family too and now I have boulter job. I have the teaching at the university. And so I'm not quite like you anymore. Where it's one hundred percent my way it it also? I'm like you that way where I can go. I'M GONNA pass this up in those happen all the time where it's like lately. Well he'd Santa Claus was one I wanna like. I got offered clouds to work on it kind of toward the end when they were in crunch and they were starting to sort of look outside of Bain basically yeah and and that was hard to pass up but now that I'm seeing out right now. It's even harder to go on that. Oh you made the right decision because I would not have been able. I hadn't played at that time. That's why Mitch Mitch word. I would not have been able to give what what I needed to give to it. That was like arms all hands on deck junior best work going to be lots of revisions job. No thinking good. Perfect Glenn sugaring skews reach. Thank you please Isa only. If you want tapered I want to counting. This is lunch also to make myself better account lunches dinner then and then yeah midnight snack. That's all over crime. Shoot or go extinct questioning targets your Thomas about yourself. I don't think there was a question. Talk about the business and in your wife like kind of managing. Oh well okay so what I really want to ask you. This is where I was headed is Zor client that I wanNA hear worst-case scenario. What is the worst situation is our client? Maybe even a major please name them. Can you tell us something. That is their studio up. The like I work with them anymore. Now there are certain people that I probably Hollywood work with. I try not to to label the company just because the person out of you know like okay you really WanNa work with this person anymore. There was one that was the most bizarre scenario that I had and that was. They asked me to go over to their studio. And this is going to be great. It's going to be awesome. This is the job like okay. Awesome sit down and say like well first of all the director wants to know if your your new say you are so. Here's a pad of paper and Pencil. A four armed alien here and I'll be right back and leaves leaves just like a karate pencil and a newsprint like the old school newsprint and like Oh so you gotta test. Yes he leaves and then when the door shuts and you see the one way mirror I'm like they're the're behind they're gonNa Watch me. Is this the government. It was a bizarre so I sit there and I draw this alien and stuff and then firm even done. He's in the room he's he's like okay. That'll be enough and that's when you were watching because you've already come up your decision that I applied saying I'm right or you'd be looking at my drawing humans since we had this conversation and Of anything like strange and this is like navy the second year freelance. And I'm like what am I and get my life into. This has been an initial red flag. That did not go to a pleasant experience. Yes in the red flag even got worse during the conversation. He's like okay so the director really wants to know him with us like well. We want to know so this special project. And how do you feel about drawing penises. Listen Vicente thank you and that was like I want to know the answer. We'll stand dumbfounded and you're like have you not see my portfolio. Have you not seen all the work for my websites. All of that right but he was like he looks at me and you can see that he wants to apologize but he's also knee deep in what he's the Milan. I'm here you're here under one invited you here here. I'm sorry about this. And he said it all in a look so I didn't want to give the buyback like well. I think that's a question you should have asked before you invited me here. Yeah isn't he started describing other stuff it's like the I don't want to get into the dirty side of pipe. He's like oh he's like. Yeah we kind of have this website or video game video city. You'll get a major video game company like Major Video Game Company ads like this is still in the room. Yeah because when I was standing outside of all lined up all the stuff they'd done before anyway really awesome and this is the art director pivoted. And you really wants she to do this. You want your take on all of this like really dirty naughty stuff like wow you. I could have saved myself a drive in this entire thing if you adjust said that over the phone talk about drawing this nasty stuff right so it's like well thank you. Thank you part of the the shape of the arms or something like that. Oh It's all right guy whose bazaar and you kind of get in the car and start laughing to yourself you like I did I. Did that really happen. Honcker something totally made sense events because the next major job I had the CEO stood over me the whole first day telling me exactly what to draw is another job during next job job so it because I was prepared strangeness when the Seat Aren't bigger and like okay wait next with that company prepared appeared for the next job where I'm like Oh if I can handle that crazy oh sure the stand over me liberal arm bigger get smaller is bigger and you're like Oh okay compare knows that was yeah I work for a website aren't director and it was like that Tracy Letts. CEO's did not draw obviously but maybe exactly what they wanted and literally over my shoulder as I was trying to tell me no no Baker Pixel like image. It's GonNa be on your cell phone about what like a quarter of an inch or something like data. That was all pixels at this point. Allow us to get it perfectly right that the level crazy about I got I got a little tangent so we've all done freelance from time to time and even if you're studio person most likely you're you're probably getting some extra money for Christmas or something like that or for the kids through college by doing some freelance on the side. Artists are in that world but but not probably Elliot's experiences you do it fulltime have for many many years so I love. I'm feeling like I'm doing it. I had a job once. Definitely one of those Out of desperation choices a little bit of extra money and I needed a quick and I got contacted by a guy long story. I'll try and keep it short. But he had this product that all of his money like retirement funds he was an got red retired but he had his invention that he was just. Oh it's going to. It's going to be cute cute like Google or something like that. Oh I know this one and this is leading towards the question because I I knew taking the job that it was to me I was just add money and he was willing to pay me and I was GONNA do l.. Station is level of excitement. I did not. I did not believe in the product I wanted to actually take him assigns thing. Look Buddy. You're just throwing away your retirement fund on me. He doing this work. This isn't going where but he was. You Know How do you have this passion. And it was literally he had invented an think this given way too much. It's it's never gone anywhere like it. predicted hit literally invented a piece of tape that holds your Napkin up in restaurants and and and so that it talk into your ships tug at best with ruining your collar and it was like this was going to sell it at restaurants and maybe put advertising office sticker for you know cigarettes or toys or whatever or something like that for this cigarettes as I like restaurants have been bred or the adult anyone to create a character tape basically okay so I was designing character designs of of these date anyone to create a whole world and ultimately an animated show based on his tape guy. I'm not saying stupid name and I did that for a while but it was a big part of me. That had this kind of guilty feeling about taking this class money. Even though he was an adult news-making Detroit. And all that have you ever had an example of something where you knew was going to go. uh-huh anywhere you knew that the work you're doing. His pregnant ended up in the pace of the wastebasket. Probably right when you leave. Most of the time you brought his stuff is going to be in the ways. Yeah I definitely so as you're telling that story I'm like going. Oh yes because I had wine met him. Ah I remember the tape Guy Down de actually they were at CTN one year with at some artwork. And I worked for two people in the industry would see this yet. It was an APP that will really try to push it and he had all this personal no funding income into it yet all his money self so we worked on a little bit and I kept asking like what's your goal when you really want out of this but as they keep talking you realize it's not a good idea you're wasting your money on me and so I ended up telling him I really want you to stop paying somebody like me. I want you to really think about why you're doing this. This seems like he go in for your product and I thought is is. We'll mobocracy I'm now starting to feel guilty conscious desperate. I guess if I had this little bit enough that I felt bad tonight and I talked to somebody below him. I said No. It's not working. I want to tell you why I honestly you guys are just losing money and if you keep doing this you're it's not gonNA help your product it's GonNa take away from your products and succeeded that you're going down this ego trip. Yeah that's not not about what you're trying to focus on was it because he wanted to put a lot of Glitz into it like going to be who's listening but then he wanNA do short animated film turn that into TV series in the same thing. Like oh I know what that is awesome thickening have done. So you're you're putting the car wave before the way for the at the New Year just losing money and had a team of thirty people who's working with just making the product so it's like I don't like yeah. I don't want that to be the reasons why you guys full. I wanted to be because the audience doesn't want it or something happened. I don't want to be part of. The reason is funny because we met a guy just last night here at C. T. N.. And he was in one of our panels and it was on social network in For Artists Anyway Great Great Guy mazing pamphlet and everything but it felt like you had a an idea that succeed. He said he'd gone to facebook. Or I don't know some of the studios visit to pitch and it was. He obviously put a lot of work. Nice images in really didn't read the pitch but he said that a lot of this studios trying to talk louder stuffiness. She's yelling it okay. So anyway I think we looked at it was just like kids it was very professionally. Put a lot of time and money into it. But one is responses was he said that have been taken around the studios and a lot of them are saying. I need to get more social presence. I need to get like followers and stuff like that. In Canada proved that happiness this army behind me. That really wants this product this series. It was about creating a brand for himself. I think that's what the studios were really looking for right and so to me. This is a hint. Everybody out there listening. I went okay. That was their way to get you out the door. I like your idea. Yeah and they did see future them and so it's easy for them to kind of catch you go great you go build Basically it's it's one of the other like you either go get get millions of dollars and they come back to us right interested or yeah get millions of followers. I just as hard right for this idea that nobody knows about right and so anyway I I felt like that was a red flag that these people are not interested in it. And I've kind of trying to say this as a lesson for everybody. Listening is windy. You know people are interested. They're going to be interested. Practically you know bend over backwards to be involved. It's a great idea and you like Geico. I'm sure you've probably worked on projects at a discounted price. Maybe if they had somebody but you really believe that ever Katherine all artists have and maybe you say this actually opens up with some question. which is have you ever worked on projects? They have almost no tastelessly. They can't afford to you. But you believe enough that you're saying Oh let me partner with you all let me have a piece of the back end or whatever Greg has that happen in house up a couple of times mostly I do that. It's Jesus four games games to play games. And there's there's no money involved in that so it's usually other designers or somebody that I believe in it and I go. Oh Yeah. Let's make that game together. I'll I'll take that price I out like over you need. Can you can't make any changes at once. I usually breaking out. We're breaking down like that. I'll be like okay. You can have two major revisions stage so from thumbnails all the way up to finish designed to major to major revisions and then only minor revisions so it was like okay. You tweak that finger is different than Oh can you make that guy girl. Oh that's a major revision. But you have to tell them sometimes. Yeah definitely. They know expectation on now right but if they're happy they understand your expectations. Everybody's still happy. That's the end goal always for me because I know the only reason they're paying me because they can't do it themselves right or else they'd do it themselves so I know that I have to be satisfied myself so when I bring them along on that journey that happened happened three years. Make a decision here. Now make a decision in the next stage. They don't like their getting what they want. Instead of. Just turning and stop saying here. I decided decided art direct. Choose one of the five. I don't know come with me here. And then they said like Oh this one. I like this piece of this Frankenstein Monster version of it. So but if they come along for the journey I really have to go all the way back to the beginning right because they were part of that process now invested in it. They don't want to go backwards either. Yeah they're invested right. If they didn't have any investment things start over. That was garbage. You made those decisions. I helped guide this. It's a good way back. Are you saying that because you showed them sort of thing. A group A ton of thumbnails. I just really quick sketches. And kinda a small. And they're just the idea of shave been sort of thing that direction that they wanna go narrowing that down and then you go to the next phase which is more like bigger drawings. He's obviously with a little more detail but they're within that shape and now here's more variations but it's it's going down missile down. So that's what you mean right after after kind of narrow narrowly narrowing. They're not going to jump back to the beginning exact. Most likely. Most of the time it will. It'll be like Oh story changed in. The guy is a girl or something like that anyway. Okay now we have to start. That didn't work piece by piece Most of this most people very it's crazy do foreign. But what I know Brett Zine because I want to say that we said all the things areas that you work in video games and all that we didn't really say a lot about what so so I think when it's come strapping I know you do a lot of different things you can do environments and stuff like that. I think of you have a good grasp of color. You a really nice grasp of color and so that but they gender tend to be would you say. Eighty percent of your jobs are characterization. Eighty percent character character design focused then yet and then offshoot from that. Some that has a character behind environments can have character. Props can have care so. I usually don't get hurt. Just do like a crate. But did they bring in a guy like Brett being when they're like. Oh we already have occurred signed. We need to do the props for the back. You know now imagine it is. It's usually in tandem issues a little bit of both and it works over like well He. You're working out. Well you also look you this. That too ended up doing special effects for right games and it was really fun and scary. Outside of normal everyday was like what what would not the joke on yet. Crowd okay. I gotTA design time and so it was really fun so different. But they're like oh great and I did like little antibiotics or shot and so you learn a lot and then each one of those leads. So yes it's been really nice opportunity to start out in Kirkuk aircrews assigned but then again fill that need to be plugged into the next thing freelancers only as good as their next job. So you're always have as a freelancer your last their last job. But they also have to be working towards as they're doing this job working on setting up the next one right freelancer this difficult part. Because you you've got to manage that you're constantly working constantly have overlapping projects. Probably that commute stress into itself. How do people I mean I took questions? Actually how do people I find you are. How are you marketing yourself out there? Do you feel like you have affected marketing or is it mostly out word of mouth. You've done job for somebody and they start recommended. I I would say fifty fifty I get I get. I get a lot of people interested in instagram. I get job offers from Instant Messenger. INSTAGRAM instagram. I like that well. Maybe like seven eight years ago. Nobody contacted anybody on facebook or anything. It was all emails now. I would say at least from a social media platform while I would get something on facebook or instagram. And like I say he's the new job. We have not worked with worked with. Yeah yeah the other ones already know my email the contact McHugh dad but I would say instruments probably the biggest draw was like always all your stuff online and then I went and go check out your website so just around. I'm looking up right now. But it's Graham. Graham is a is your when your major marketing tools. Yes that that's a responsibility that you have to juggle two now you're constantly publishing or posting. And what's your instagram handle Brett Tutte Tutte Bean. I've been following for a long time and I love cafe sketches Richard and stuff like that kinda to`real process right you final-status talks to right. Yes I have a couple all of those might do like a past and present talk about artists from the past and give a letter back. Oh Yeah so you've Kinda use it. There's a little Teaching Science to it for you on instagram allowed to one thousand dollars ninety thousand dollars. Nice sorry be me buddy. Oh come on Tom. Saying I'm not saying all right. We gotta talk influenced by life here. My favorite and I love that. I love to hear that because I you you know. Tom And I talked about this a lot to anybody. You can't go right over there. Let's bring back to the animation right there. I love the fact that we talk about it a lot on this podcast and we actually she at Santan. We just did a a live podcast with two of the coming up pretty soon to instagram. Huge screen artists over a million followers. Yeah Yeah and we've talked about it for many years. That more and more instagram is becoming that place for artists to get their workout there. and to make a name for themselves create a reputation of brand right right and there is a a Brett Bodine brand right. I have like five words and every thing that I post has to having two of those words. I love that we lost now. He's he's just. I had talked to myself. What's might think is doing t shirts? And I'm doing my comment a little bit of everything over the place what what you want from and not the Roi Do for other people such their thing right. I only get paid to help them on their project but me and mine and so I just kind of came down with five keywords and just said okay this those keywords are what can you give us or is that secret. That's your proprietary proprietary but it is secret to me and I want the people to feel it when they see it. Yeah I want them to things like your emotional no nothing all good it. The we are family symbols part of that. No other instagram account goes up. He'd be Richard. We'd have a video game so essentially overall happiness in your life. You feel that. Wait Oh yeah but this thing is working out yes. In Years I was very I was the opposite when I was in high school. I ranks US very anxious. I'm just very low down in an I will. I will say this. I had talked to my mom years later and said mom number where a lot of sweaters so I actually hurt myself when I was in high school so I was very depressed too windy with emotions I took it out on my own body and so it took a long time to figure figure that out I talked to my mom about it. Had that heart to heart talk with her hard for her very hard. It was very hard for here. Thirty but we came came to grips with that. Luckily hopefully before she passed on and then so yes I from her passing. She passed away a month before I graduated so while I was doing my senior stuff I was going to the hospital. visit her heart. But when you go through things like that it makes makes the rest of. It's really easy right. And it's also the reason why I like to travel because travel me reminds me how fortunate how lucky not how easy all of this all my first world problems got you. Yeah so I really get a sense of like I try to always like shut up when I'm I'm in other people's company especially when I travel I want to know about them I want to hear about. I just WanNa take that in always reminds me of like. Oh my Gosh California I find family. I love lovely family. Got Fine Job. This is gravy. This none of it's that big of a deal making money love. Yeah I mean how many people get that. I think Galatasaray saying you don't get upset when you can't charge your phone because the plugs different. I usually when people do that. Yeah it's like okay. This is a lot of travelers because a lot of people only know how to get over something by having to have have something in the way so they get to the next stage by having by having to be upset by. I'm GonNa overcome something and so that's a driving force for a lot of people and I. I learned that. Oh that is. You're giving other people a lot of that energy and so once I learned that I don't need anything from anybody it dispelled all of that. Where now it's just like no? It's all going to be fine. Nobody gets to take that from you because then is just giving other people all of all of your emotions great now. None of that matters now. It's much easier to handle almost everything so between the kids and and real life stuff happening. It's it's made everything else really easy to deal with what you're talking about his baggage right. It's like you. There are some people that have a lot of baggage emotional usually our past failures or their past things. That are still grieving over. It's like doc that they can't let go of and therefore now the day to day tasks of live are just wearing them down. We know somebody in our in our lives very a very very close that you know she constantly is that way. I thought you were talking about yourself. Now you're talking about now that's good okay. So it's exhausting to around her at some cases where it's like Oh one more day sect that kind of exasperation about even the bill coming in like oh they'll come here. I have to go over to to the desk and pay what is happening in this world and your site. That is not a big deal. Yeah Yeah they end up driving their lives negative actually outside of that right all that negative so they can even do the next thing without feeling that. Yeah it's one more thing on my on my load. I was just going to pay the check. You Food and in walk now you get a little help the exercise and you can look at everything in life to obviously and so anyway. I understand stand by a lot of people are anxious about our futures that they can't control and we talked about on a couple of podcasts. Even this weekend about how we all go into this industry with vision the dream of what we think will happen what we want to happen. And then what the actual reality is can be totally really different but still be a great result. And that's what I hear in your story that you've gone through a lot of the maybe anxieties. Maybe Committee fears a lot of those things probably in the beginning of your career that we all go through. This is for the audience. We all go through this stuff. You're not alone and yet I love that you've come to this place of maturity you've worked here and sorted through a lot of emotional stuff in your life. It sounds. It's like you've accepted. Help from your spouse and others around you you've been encouraged by you know how how you've grown experiences that you've had a major stronger and now ask you kind of start to summarize to future casting now for you. How's how's IT changed? And what do you see as the place you'd likes ago. I would say that my wife and I now have bigger like five year plants. Yeah so the kids we have Were were living with vicariously through them but at the same time time we also like Oh. You're still my best friend. How do we maintain that we have a lot? Most of our goals are not career oriented. They're more like lifestyle. Like what do we want out. That's life so I learned that again when you put your goals in somebody else's hands like a lot of students like to work at Disney and I want to do this and go. That is not in your control. Do not put any of your personal goals in somebody else's hands end up being miserable. Yeah because you can't do it. We've had these talks Fox. Yeah so it's really hard. It's like if you want to be better as an artist every day or hone your craft or learn inking. That's all within your ability. Yeah so you you just have to Either put down net flicks or you know put down the TV or the phone and video game your video games. You Pronounce Games do that. That's your choice but all other things. Things are not in control so my wife and I have these bigger lofty goals where we want to stay here in California. Forbid I WANNA keep betting getting better as an artist I wanNA flip flip the freelance. I WANNA flip it. It's now probably about eighty twenty or twenty percent is coming from my own art eighty percent lance. Yeah I wanted eventually flip that so it's twenty percent freelance and eighty percent people just coming for me for me. With graphic novels with properties with all that's the eventual for career wise. And then my wife and I want to Portugal. Wow Yeah so we actually the kids around the kids are out. Yeah you went on a trip. We took we took we spend with our five year old for the new baby came and it was amazing. Yeah yeah we spent a full markers mazing and we've been a lot of different places but it was one of those joint ones where you know. We're both people are like. This is amazing. I could live with these people I could live here. I can be this and the fact that both of US said it okay. That's yeah that's where it's at usually. It's like oh I love this lace newspapers like take it or leave. It was like we were both like we love that people everything about it. So that's our goal. Is that this. This is the thing that I was wondering. How does I dream of living in Portugal? And it's beautiful and wonderful. How's IT applied to your dream of your art? And how does that art support and dreaming of art screening on your own thing support. Living in Portugal is there. Is there work in Portugal. Gotcha goal for that twenty percent of freelance. Or you're going to be so you must have. You must be thinking about how you're setting yourself up and being away and Portugal and not in the Stereo are- out here in your retired. I don't think artists ever retire. It always keeps going because you're always. Yeah it's one of the few times where you can actually Arts anything music any things. You really can't keep advancing learning and creating something all the way up until you're you're like your body gives up and says like I can't technically do it anymore. I don't think there's any retirement age. I don't believe they can stop especially in the arts so I I don't see that's going to happen but I think what the graphic novels and starting down that that's the slow. Burn me to that. Yeah we're talking to start. Doing these. Things started working for myself. Giving a name brand for me. People come to me but again I freelance clients in California. But most don't know where I am until check Ryan so it doesn't and could be anywhere tops thing to go Nashville. And then just fine as a freelancer but the US is after we had a reputation tation to create a brand and reputation for yourself before you can venture out. I would recommend that to Yom just to start in the industry people where they're like. I'm GonNa live in Katmandu and be a freelance for nickelodeon. It's going to be tough. I got to create those relationships. I I build that reputation agree. It's time fight. You know. That's the thing that we have to serve. Reassure on my students. We're just talking to from your students just the other night that You know life but you can talk about your art career and life simultaneous. Say It's not a sprint. It's marathon and it's time so many of the artists side. You know the young kids twenty hour the same way. It sounds like you probably were too where you want to be great in five years not even five to write it. Sounds like you know Walt Disney himself said you it takes ten years to make good animator for him. That was his opinion and I totally agree with that. Because I was not about your eight to ten then I felt really comfortable even at Disney. And so we're probably kind of knew what I was doing can actually produce some of my best work and then I left uh-huh but anyway you know that's the hard part that and that's a youth thing right. You're young you want it tomorrow. That is true true but do you think it's also social media. I think the Internet and everything like by there's all conversation let's go but I think that that that really does add to it. I get it done. Now everything's instant. What do I want to watch but like Google? I think there was just a longer amount. The people had to to really get this now. Everything's just at a faster pace. Everything supposed to get a faster pace with the arts will always be no it takes time. It doesn't take much time to copy and to do something that's been done. Sure would find your own voice will always take a good amount of time to figure. Congratulate Yourself is so we have to wrap up because we had you for a long time and you gotta gotta go by the way for the audience and we've been offered I five cups of coffee at so jazzed but do you have is. Would you say that was one of the big things that you tell people because you get asked all the time about art like how don't get banner does and given comments. What is the one or two things that you see common in portfolios? That is missing that. They really aren't concentrating on enough to get that job that they don't have a point of view I see so many portfolios the point of view is strictly. I want a job so they make artwork that fits in a portfolio that they get the job. And it's usually reminiscent of this or that the they don't have a point of view they don't have something to say that's their own also because they're not done cooking. They're still in the middle of becoming today. We're going to be for the most part are people are always chasing something that's been done or they think it's going to get them somewhere. And that's where the portfolio doesn't really shy. Yeah that's everyone's everyone's got that book and I know what that images from. I've read that same thing. Sure and then there's people who extrapolate that information ago. Okay how DO I. How would this do my own and create something from my point of view? Yeah that's that's where it comes from right because you have influences people transfer influencers to just like not stealing but aping a little bit too much deeper in fairness all these people are or students graduate most likely right or they're about to their within that race and so what's in. Their portfolio are Haas assignments like eighty in nineteen percent or if not a hundred which they may not controlled like what the criteria was that assignment as. We know. We're talk both instructors Tony and so now I will say that in both of our cases we try and give out assignments that they could lead to career if he did a good job. Effective portfolio piece But that's not always true. Renzo are you also saying saying when you say that. Are you also saying a lot of what your student work is is going to have to get thrown out and you have to do work. Basically because I see that I will say I'M GONNA go out of line. Say That and again hopefully now to say that but I see a lot out of student portfolios. I could see their class assignments as great on that. Whenever it's not industry geared at all? It wasn't listen to that level. It's not a ritual is not the end of the box kind of stuff it was just. I was learning perspective. And so here's a the building our little city street. Whatever and that stuff doesn't really help you? There's there's assignments you something from and it just you do it. And then there's those assignments this is just for the students that you get knocked unity something beyond result openness to went right in there in the definition of what needs to be delivered that I can now brings into the me too it and I- bright and also it's an orthographic is a fall or whatever so it's also industry stuff but I wanNA have that portfolio. I know is like a real job. PEOPLE DO Arthur graphics. So is that do you kind of feel like students hassle start over on a portfolio notes bold to say that. I don't think it's bold and say that because I think they should I I mean just because you graduate doesn't mean that you're not done learning and growing so I think I think once you learn a lesson it's like oh how do I now turn that lesson into something. Yeah it's the lesson is in school but yeah I think a lot of it so I try to tell him and I asked him. What would you change about this now this last year graduate? What would you change about? This is now do this and this and this like. Why didn't you do that? Ryan that's in your portfolio right now. Why did you not do this and bring the last year or for get rid of it? Altogether learn your lesson and make a whole new property a whole new character and go great. Let's just do it from people cry. I know it keeps me the employees never making. Yes what you need to go into bat. I guess not evil. Here's the Nice version of this. Podcast we just got a peek at the other side. Now actually thank you so very much because I yeah. I've learned a lot because you're so season as a freelancer of AKIVA. Learn anything. I really am not sit down to talk about some freelance lifestyle. Why did that was a big goal? Today he didn't know that so we did not like that. It became that in this podcast. It's something that interested and and I feel like you've never really learned percents always stuff. You're learning about that lifestyle. He just being able to survive at it. So we'll have you on again. We'll talk more about maybe. Yeah I don't know whatever you guys interest to you guys to have a powwow need interview us next Don all right so thank you very much. Everybody check out threat to being on instagram. Sorry too because I used to be three Tutti now. I was when I had a greer Brad. Hey Tuti Eh Ts right. That's not true okay. I was named after Bret Maverick head one teas. My Dad's spelled evolved and put it on. The data made a mistake that he spent a great breakfast. Sorry about all the noise poise and stuff. But we feel well-fed and energize with cats ready to go a little bit cleaned up measly to feel like my voice is coming initiative. Yeah better place place but a better place so thank you for joining us as well from the heart.

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The Endgame Of Star wars

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The Endgame Of Star wars

"Fancy Donoso's this recorded for the live studio audience. Hello to dinosaurs. That she talking pocus for movies, TV shows and pop culture our money host Kyle. And he with us made Nick the other one who also talk sometimes so. Good. Thanks again. Yeah. Today. And with us today is a good friend. Nick, Nixon heard I've taught him those geek out the oracle of letting house basement dweller. Garage into a basement. Kinda ease because it's a house. Yeah. Two story place. So it goes under. Water tanks towns. Okay. Your way you on. So the elimination keeps the rats buddy at your ankles. Wasn't that part of your head point? That's my we I forgot it was called basement dwellers. But that was the tag that you put under the control the light keeps the rest from body mind. The rat key. All right. So we're all hia and doing stuff today did some stuff like sleep twenty-six? Did you work lost not sleepy? Yeah. Ause play video games all night. Yeah. So you've gotta stop that sheet. Especially when we have work. What do you mean that that will work? This is my this is more time to sleep now. Okay. I'm in trenching on your time. And so you audience. Yes of call fuck everybody. Whoa. The night not just freight. Okay. So first of all I have a major Nansen for a room. Okay. We dim fainted on. Dinosaurs is nail live on patron patriarch. I keep home patrons. Amazing 'cause they patrons did the people the patrons PayPal runs. But my phone just went off. I'm so sorry. That is the most unprofessional thing that's happened. While. While. So we live on patriot. We have four different levels of amazingness futile. Look at an are the Dr night on a regular basis. We're also got a coffee hoffy on a hey say, it's Kofi if you don't have enough for repairing payments. You can't support us on KFI coffee coffee visor coffees. They spend instead of coffee for data straight L's. Oh, she change it from coffee dreams. So the buying streams they could just donate like ten bucks and Louis by I'm at a coffee right now. I'd need coffee raisin while. I'm not functioning correctly at the moment. Vaidya image going get the boy of abor TVD, July more. Yeah. Go two seconds are already in this. That's why I could still go. This'll be like. I mean, neck were what we might talk about today. So. We have most likely going to discuss of in the show nartz yet Nick has given to me I should prepare Marin, but we're going to discuss game. What was that look bad? Going to discuss endgame. We've all seen it. We'll talk spoilers. Yeah. There's no not about the film without spoiling. Anybody who it's been more than a week? So that's internet, Tom and forever. So you should have known about it. But let's actually you know, what I wanna. Here today. We we're going to get the full Gua going to define like the rules. Is there is I yes, I believe. Okay. When something comes out. Yes. The should always be grace period. Then talk about it. But as soon as it gets point obits off like girl nuts and just be like, whatever I don't not give you cannot dictate how I'm going to talk with people that's fair. But at the same time, I always read those rules of spoilers online. I'm back, by the way. Yeah. I went to the shops, really. Really? Like the flash. See I didn't watch. C v give us money, which your products. Much more joyful than other energy drinks. It's much more enjoyable than its competitors. The best did not actually give me wings. When I jumped off at building hurt. I I understand that you know, that should be rules disposed. But I also don't think pay should go out of the white to be an awful. Oh, definitely not. So like if you do. Oiler on something on the six months on social media. That's fine. If you go, hey, guess what? I'm man dies. But it goes both ways to be on a so so you're in a group of people and then everybody, but you haven't seen the movie you're going to go all out. All that took the money. That's being an asshole that person has to leave. If they don't want to hear spoil they have to leave. It's actually the social equivalent of when you ask someone if they want the law sausage roll. Most off holy sting too. Because you put others in an awkward position. Yeah. They wanna have vice I know Russel's just hike guys. Yeah. I just I just take virtually with. So I missed it. I didn't provide shirts because I was at work today asked me to do some then I did get really. Yes. That underscored. I was like I was a message so much plan today. And then I made really loose Flynn's on Star Wars would in case. That's a look. What are you talking about? What? Didn't read every single message is hey, Carl. Atrial his line doing it. Send me a thumbs up. And basically to me it sounds like fun. This way playing days gone now, see quibble Taku story bar. Which also means fuck shuttle your parents generation. That's nice THEO. Classic. Okay. So we're gonna start off with some in game chat. And then I think we're gonna finish it up. Because today actually is my the fourth who we are the fourth you'll receive these on the release of detective pitchy day, which will now known as he could you day will really I think we'll I think we'll have a quick chat about phantoms in. How it's actually, you know, certain with sonic. Yep. Just quickly just phantoms in general. Let's go. Let's go bit of end game at the Stott. We'll go the stalls, and then we'll go into whatever. So everyone here is saying in game listening his endgame guys. Just so, you know, this call won't you guys. This is a spoiler of you because we do end game at the end. Yeah. Looks to in game at the end because and then we'll just turn off the mics not hook hill. This is not. So the people can enjoy Al stuff. That's if you haven't seen it you can enjoy up to that point. We'll tell you. So we'll talk Sowell's person. Yeah. So it was made a full. Didn't you say we'll do today? Day who's made them for today? Guys. It was twelve o'clock. Twelve o one. House twelve a once or technically elba's ride. That one. Allies high Star Wars has been a defining moment for many young people. Yeah, it's a huge cultural icon. It's like. How how how do you explain Sowell's? The who what you said, it's a cultural phenomenon when it came out again, you you had your parents. I went to go see the movies. They would be lining up to see the movies consistently for every showing. Meaning you didn't get to buy a ticket or anything if you didn't line up. You didn't get to see the movie, but just how it works. So you're understand for back. Then this is before people had internet or cable or anything this is if you got that much people consistently going to a lodge event is a cultural phenomenon to mention like the created this update your phantom dressing up kind of are caused by was like dressing up scared of the next next movie and other think anybody's ever seen anything quite like that before the light sabers and all the alliens hunting imagery movie. My dad used to say the first it was just amazing in Star Wars, and you hope which was just called Star Wars back then when the giant. Aucun bureau cruiser comes along is a wool buffet. And. And. Now, you know, every movies kind of what it will drive things aren't you like whatever and game. Right. So so the imagery was very iconic for the time. And now the current really get away with that issue affects seventy seven is crazy. All yeah. Watching the original of the original cots, and I've gone back and watch the original special. Thanks. They still hold up today. That's what's very impressive about it. Stop motion for a lot of the things they use as well like the differen- blowing do the of the desktop. That's right. When the going for the trench, Ron and everything that's all stop by ship. More shots. There was a lot of Mona shots that. Yeah. Yeah. It was beautiful. It was amazing. And as not ain't seventy seven dollars but released Anna, right? I'm not gonna win any fans or at here. Let's be honest guys that the movies themselves. I don't think that who'd cheese. They cheesy accurate very easy. There are the scripts on that good people talk about how can I explain this? They always talk about how bad scripts off like episode one two three. Well. Still kind of shoddy in three four five. George Mitchell, just you Christmas visionary icon. Really, why fix the first one? The first film that was actually train wreck. She actually did the editing that save the Phil because you can actually find the original footage of what it looked like and everything and a lot of original, George Lucas ideas, which were not very good. One hundred being the frog at one point and alien frog instead of a person and everything and he actually had to have people on staff. Explain that people can't relate to alliens. So they had to put in human characters will pots and everything. Luke was there to be the guide for everyone that came in? He's the one that always ask questions. I, oh, what are we doing here? We're at this bar evil. Yeah. That's. Unexpired thing all the other characters there to explain everything to Luke. That's how the whole style was worked. This is the new ones and one gets everything to Ray. Like now, she already knew everything. Yes. She knows everything. But she's. Given everything initital. Yeah. Jonker jonker. I don't understand that that new movies car yet has fair. But let's let's not bother with air though. Let's talk about the star will stories. I recently watched solar and I'm gonna give it a thumbs up and a half. Out of two thumbs. Yes. So it's this the sensually three and a half stars. I guess. Yeah. Which would be a normal ranking. And it won't be like how dig. My my solo solo was at its core commercial flop on pretty show it. Yes, nothing. But that's because it was so distant from the Star Wars mine storyline. Bet was mini slot. Was in alliance is in it. Does one point. That was just at the end Okuda when the had this reveal of a character. Oh, that's all right. You can spoil the coupe. Yeah. So. Fuck a quote quinquina, gene night, Emily clocks character. It's like we'll something like that pronounce de Bill. Yeah. Let's say that. Anyway, she somehow gets control all these crime syndicate. Right. And then she goes to talk to the leader of it. I I think they'll call the crimson something rather Craig's. Craig's energetics, turns out the leader of it is dot mole. Lee gin. So the dock cyber he has the let's fucking lakes the main that like his extended universities his legs. Yeah. Hey, just as Pisa's a hologram. He's probably go robot legs. But. The rebels cannon is Canada. Yeah. Yeah. That is canon. That's right. Because it's Disney on anything about these knee is cannon house of the moon Zoll. Yes. There's a mining pot. So the guy who this is beautiful scene. You love in it actually at the start when he when Hans solo gets off the planet. Right. It goes into this would wall to steady sane where the trench Wu and it's beautiful like the lasers and the guy just like always suppose solo talks on the Kathy's. It's like we go this way because that's what the enemy and then he's cat. The roads just dies. He's like well. I'm ready this way, south rocking back which is fair enough you run away from danger. We're taught that as young children, and then he meets up with like. The. Lando chronic not the calm sitting at some guys who trying to steal sheet, and whatever and the guy teaches Han solo had to be a crooked whatever pretty much and he's like don't trust anybody kid. Don't trust her trust anybody the guy portrays solar cars and then at the end. Heart. Is there he meets up with him? He cuts them off. He's just like he's got a gun towards him towards the kid. You know, what you're just shoots. It was like oh well couple of you did that did the coal. I was gonna kill you. Rental on that whole like he's he he shot their heels the early one to shoot. Stupid. Why was who shot I obey because George Lucas? I don't want it to be the bad guy. Han solo the solo movie was it's cemented. Who hunt solos character was? So it was pretty good actually good. And I thought of like the actors in it all really good. Jewish backstory. Yeah. So he free chewy from basically he he got third into prison not prison jail. And then at the army the army thought he was going to be he was a deserter. So they throw him into a pit with a Wilkie and I'll just watching kill each other. And he's just like, hey, wait a minute. Let's help each other. And so humid Choi alike, besties team working together escape. Chew. It's like free a bunch of other two buckles boxes. Off. A fan. Gale. Right. So while we're on the stories, then I'll talk about my least favorites. Those that. He's ruined one. Komo man. Rogue one one Bailey possible who'd style was movie disagreement Bailey, Basel, good war movie at this honor. No, disagree with that. I think it was pretty good. I think you was contrived. I believe what do you mean? Contrive deployed was meant. It was shown to be the super on an AUSSIE movie was it. Yeah. It it had these these slo Mo's anes lots of gaps in conversation. When genus owes like. Makeup your model. And the whole what's his rebels forest week his character? He just he came in. And he just died, greedy. See that guy with the middle egg. He's like I say if you then he's not. Is he just left with them? From Austin pals steamrolls coming along and he's just like. He could least leave. Probably man. Yeah. I mean, he had the use a walking stick is earth. One. There's no way could have kept up with. Yeah. I feel explosion was killing everybody. Yeah. Yeah. Gene because she escaped. Yes. Yeah. Lucky her? I remember this name Kassian. Yeah. The not that the characters were I know you can you can crack it at me for saying these they were accost throw gay characters. Of course. They win lockable. I didn't like any of the highlighted the Buchan robot. Hide the shit out of his face. Like the first thing. He's he's like low, blah. I make a joke. About ten minutes after and twenty jokes late. I was like I'm gonna Midi. Depressed robot from hitchhike has got into galaxy. Here's like ninety five Jansen stupid. Yeah. Okay. Cool the fees on allowed to hype this movie. Yeah. You just it didn't speak to me. I imagined the stealing of the plans for the deaths die in a completely different way. I actually didn't always going to end in tragedy. A Hugh loss. Oh, I don't mean. I don't mean everybody's going to any many ending when the actual shift. That's what it was gonna be like onto spies infiltrate eve periods. I didn't know what just can be a wolf ill. You wanted you wanted like a spy movie. Yeah. Well, I think it was the perfect time to depart from usual style style of filmmaking. You've got the enticing incident. You've got the stuff the person who doesn't wanna be part of this being she ends up becoming part of this thing. I have a big laser battle as big space battle. And then she goes down, your, you know, they they could have departed from their usual in on a really really interesting ugly solo woes more of a heist movie than exactly apparently was described as eleven spice own go that far. I really wouldn't. It's not since eleven. It's it's not a it's not. But it's like. The ocean movies. They're really great heist movies. And I think it's dot gov. A heist movie that's say, it's like a scowling ten. It's like six seven. Maybe I yeah. It's. It's. It's not shit. Like, I thought it was going to be ship. It's not. Yeah. That's yeah. But with rug wad. I yeah, I I quite enjoyed it. I think the action was pretty good. I I knew exactly every single character that you're going to meet was pretty much go to die under that except fucking. What's her name the lady with short hair? That's the part of the rebellion. Fuck they MS on the the chance law. Yeah. Jets. Jets chancellor kept him up. He she later. The rebellion is she like, Joel. She's like chancellor Jetta. Okay. Character names too, many characters roomba. I'm not one of those super fans will be like a she is actually borne on on our gone. There's a pot. I think you I'm not sure either way you own solar. Right. Where the rope would land does robot when they're the bar having robot matches and Landers were about is just like, this is gets equal rights, blah, blah, blah. She's begging the cage and she's just like free free. Our brothers shit. Like that is about to be badly traded Dzhambul hold the fucking. Why actually sort of agree with these only to the point where in this universe? Robots feel physical pain. Yeah. Okay. There is a Sade with a robot hiding outside dad having his fate burn. And he's screaming. Seduced? They serve as well. I know like literally accent you have to have to make Dory. Bus 'cause they saw advanced now Mike force fields. And from what we've seen in the stalls universal. What they can do you had to make him feel pain. That'd be the only was because then the robot would reconsider doing things because it can feel actually a really good point that actually just popped into my head like when you doing complex repay jobs if you don't feel the pain in the dining hall. Most likely you'll explode as a robot. Whoa. Whoa. Boob. Make the best noises. Screaming? Happened at that batch. They'd he's lead. There's like I think your name was L three. She's just like, this is cruel. And you know, we need to free robots. Yeah. Yeah. The robots in this probably their events. Yeah. The droids, I guess droid Seattle yet. But you know, why people don't like robots, right? Trash the clone wools. That's true. Yeah. Because the the Omni's before the coin wolves will verbal armies. We're joined on the clones were fighting the joys with. Exactly. Space. So the the empire would have like completely thrown the joint army under the boss like saying all the joy of being taxing people here in here. And he'll so we need to say more clones over he'll droids mass produced in terrifying. He the sequel trilogy, I guess the prequel trilogy. Yep. You can pretty much like they would terrify very mass produce could pump out about fifty at least some pretty sure that's why people hated George. Well, that makes sense. Though joy naturally. Stop was what's your favorite? And I know I know everyone's favorite. He'll. Second favorite apron. Let's on the camera will will say favorite one two three Jetta. One two three. Back empa-. He didn't play loan. Not like a walks. They were friends the Christmas special. So what's your second favorite one? And why that would be the clone was cut turn because it's fucking coup. The movie I mean field. The Clinton was cut turn. Back to back. Serious man, but serious podcasts trendy series. Let's serious vice on serious. I don't know, man. Like, Nick, I likely say episode one would be my second one the phantom minutes as the Phantom Menace. Yes. Because again, by Seoul, the Star Wars films laid along I actually saw him when they had the twenty fifth anniversary screenings those I actually solo Star Wars took me to in cinemas and straight off to that was the new the prequel trilogy. And when I really think about it. I really enjoyed EPs. I wanna Phantom Menace a lot more than the other ones again because they had a conic imagery from Michigan being give up beings. But again Jaya's bands. These factors. I didn't. Hey, judge obese needed. What do you think about it? It's like the lights of battles betta, the mall car gone gyn and OB one was way better because actually actually coordinate the fights and seek five very very good fi. The pod race was phenomenal made a phenomenal videogame ofter. Everyone wanted to video game after off. Well, I've this argument about how light say say battles used to be fought back in like the prequels to the rich tree. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So think about this in the prequels. That's where all the jet is what that prime exact every one of them. They knew all the skills in episode four when Rb one started teaching Luca little bit about. I is right. Here's an old, man. He couldn't fight anymore. So Luke Skywalker. Just kind of swinging this solar out by kind of not really knowing. What to do also dot vague is also an old man give he's got the four, but they really strong with full pallets healthy. But they can't. About now. And he's very slow like he's clunky. He's he's. The whole thing is that the empa- the the EPA actually made him pouty tracks. Yep. But they're they're all men. They can't fight like they used to backing episodes one two and three do gymnastics and shit because their bodies could handle it, but actually make sense because he actually had a jet. I cancel and you had people growing up traditionally under the highway and everything this is when you look at like, the the trilogy that we know all which is full five six even Yoda protests to training, Luke saying he's too old. And you see that they have them since they will you'll kids to Maine that means train their entire lives to being generated. Now, I would not do in the pedal jokes. Sloppy that Sade rooted was it revenge of the safe way to say the lot cyber Lou kids bicycle. I went to the effort of having him in the hologram the memory to the kids are trying to swat it added. Could it? But yet that explains why the lots of battles on as good in the truth as they are in the prequels because again, that's what jet is were at the prime. Yeah. Physical not with the force because they're forced POWs, obviously, stronger like to return the jet. I and then that's when Luke starts doing backflips, and she'd no really not anything. The entire hot cartel. Yeah. Yes. But that's. Actually train was that. But that's what it is. It's live with return of the jet. I it's you know, we've seen Luke at he's fully trained to what he can be. Yes. And that's what actually did I had a nice build up of Luke. Getting the roughing of the first parts it'd be one still guarding him. He's still got him and tells him to go to Daiga again everybody he didn't have a master really teach him anything. He kind of. Yeah. Read some books in Seoul. He some techniques is how you do. Yeah. I went back to the. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. Let me see return of the jet. I is basically is a jet. I now trying probably on the and everything. But that's just going back to episode one is the probably the reason I really liked the moist is that they actually made out that Anna can Skywalker da fighters. One knows. He's basically forced Jesus. The mother admits that she didn't concede with anyone for him to be born in every which makes fills in the whole story about him bring bounce the force. It was like he was the one to bring on the children that would bring the balance which is to turn bad and everything for that to work. Well, let's be honest. There was like how many thousand two to sift pretty ballads to be with those two jet. I. I mean. See more like the. Was most owl speaking. All the time. They probably. Elian Mazda and an apprentice the entire thing with the that the copy anymore because they're too, greedy. They'll just kill each other. That's fair. In the expanded universe. That's pretty much. What happened? They just kill the early. One of them can rule alley. It's just so strange because the Buchan jet is could have taken him out. So many times they couldn't because the two shrunk too strong, even for the the they're actually too strong 'cause the throwaway way stronger than the jet is just because I've accepted the dockside in the anger nerve because the way that actually trained so peach the C C jet. I actually got stale where the seat kept devolving with their skills and everything because what would happen is have an awesome apprentice, the apprentice could only overtake the mosque that if he killed him. That means if he got better than him. That's every single generation of sith is better a lot better than the lost generation. Oh, when you when you put it like that actually thank culling, they kept getting stronger and stronger and stronger, whether Geragos style. That's why Pell pertain was able to fuck in literally kill five jet. I Mazda span of like two minutes. Not even force. You know, he's a really old man as well. Too. Love to say him like wield a lifetime. Yeah. He would have been a bad also did four against but in the CG battle that was. In the prequels when when semi Jackson up to public office after that he was. Yeah. Yeah. Had a battle with him in the Senate as well. Oh, I'll find the seats. I'll find the seats out that movie go onto me because I remember we re watched it. It's basically game thrones. Yeah. I should make a really hot of violence those like five jet, I Mazda, including mice Windu and putting just fucking floored all of them. So you don't miss windy, right? He's origin story. Like, I've heard a lot of people discuss it raised his lots respectfully species. He's a sith gone Jeddah nor. Well, originally supposedly Samuel Jackson just wanted to Pippa lights. But then the story, but I think people just started writing into yet ready into it more and their own Yoweri, which kinda makes sense. I guess, but I still I still wanna say a mall story about the neutrals. Like did. I. I think I think that's what might swin do kinda was. Yeah. I just wanna say a whole group of Detroit who fought for themselves and survival elect jet jet I- dropouts, the dress. Deeper full the jet. I drop out the the drug something colored Xi MU jet dropouts, whereas fucking budgets. Dropouts? You make video. It's like he's six people you made at Kennedy. No, like, I imagine they're at a party jet other parties through check this trust the Mark control cheek like liking accidentally MRs gets guy. He's like a sheet. Tossed out of mine trick tests, whatever they try to pick up cheeks like a force pals, just like I could make shoot floated crashes into the. So I just a five minute was another show coming out soon. Actually, the main delory I wanna watch that. I actually really wanted. Because essentially the only thing we learn about bogut before he peed was he Zealand. He he space Ted, boo. Doing. Yeah. Dead did him. Son, go through space stuff now. Oh, man. We smoked. On new I killed him. Or no the. It was originally released in between. Four and episode five toy and no one knew the fuck. You was the show in episode five. And now he's just a he's nothing but a blank slight to feel like he's got his own origin story in like the extend universal stuff, but they can do whatever the fuck. They want. Yeah. Go like, what will they kind of have to have him end up dying by we know, how story ends? He does not like in. Oh, yeah. Fat. Not Bubba faddem getting mixed up again between of the hunt. And both it see I keep getting Bava. Faddem fat is Bubba feeding. The name wrong with Bubba is. It's just perfect fit and Django. That's. That's it. That though show. We'll stop these dads getting huddle. Yeah. And then it will end with him flashbacks with all rights, and this is how you kill someone. Let's start off with him getting the the mandatory NAMA. Yeah. That's. Yeah. Heartfully they really has a want a really wanna see more on the Hutt cartel. I mean, he he's if frequent deal with the huts, I mean, he's gonna be all over that sheet and also talk about criminal, and that's Yup. Yup. Crimson. Don't let other. Twenty minutes the other cartel that's run by mall. The mole was the impetus to the dock cyber that point. I don't know if they're gonna go into that at all in the pursuit of energy to fly dossiers, the dachshund will come into it. Sometime, doc. So what the hell's the Doxa the black lots IVA? Why before the Disney blam? Yeah. It was on. It was it was in. The coin was was it racial now. Like when was it? The clone was was at the other animated that ended or rebels that ended with a lot between doth mole and the actual defeat. Five was the katuni yet is. It's kinda because dot mole and. One can be have a final five. Yeah. Like finally fall falls by going conovy. Finally kills. That's pretty cool. And back then when are we won? I faded off. All he was just an apprentice Jetta everyone's like jet on not messed Jeddah Moscow. Sorry. He's on the council's jet. I messed. So they'll fight over the dock cyber fucks, doc sabre orthodox the dockside was the ancient and unique black bladed. Lots able. The fifth Mandal Orian ever introduced to the Janai ODA. I was just like it's like, they guess it's their watch McColl it the. The excalibur. Just a black plated lots with the hilt. The clone was young rebels actually mentioned go must be cannon multi who term him coming up sometime soon on at night while my favorite, Sal is maybe other than in strikes Mak es stables, and you because that is just a beautiful story. It's a reminds me of costly tightly joined. So yet. Story about saving someone as oh, yeah. Elements that you need, and it just makes me happy road mcgeever on my part of that is when the stone triple walks into the league, it's an added. Just a rollicking moment from start. It's also. Probably gonna give me a bit height. But I think. The force awakens wasn't actually that bad either. I didn't. I didn't. Hey, I mean, like don't if ain't broke don't fix it and the inches what they had. And that's what they then they tried to fix it. In the last year. I just kinda us mad libs to kind of build the movie or we'll because ever cracked it. And it was on always to Shimla was just which dolls episode foregin, Mike different than believe. That's why they made it different. I don't think that's why all said different rata because Jay Abrams kind of set up these characters, and then tell anybody how to use them. Well, that's that's my issue with this. If you have someone to do something in a trilogy, you need to hire them to do the whole thing. Yup. Because these people have created these gags in this world with these laws, and they need to say it through these. If you hand giving your child to someone else, doesn't it had a rise. The faculty. Especially for trilogy. You have to write the start the middle and the end, and if you come along all his character, the stop will wedded to go to will buy that doesn't resolve any back to Star Trek. Are you guys going to watch the next owls? I am. I I was not going to swear to God. I was not going to I broke up with Star Wars. I really did. But I feel like a half to this Koss as he do. I don't wanna see us. We saw for you. People don't understand that. I don't want to give money to the holes. A really darn. That's not what. Watch. It doesn't matter. What you get any money to Disney some hail, you cut the middleman and just get some at least some ammo these. If you never say it, you'll never know. If you hide it how. I know I'm not gonna like it or not. Yeah. But what he's like will debts out of here. Yeah. He's probably going to rewrite the entire thing to try to fix. It's like it's like. Like, it's like BIC. How you talk about hell the force awakens would stop and just has like a flashback of all the prequel trilogy and vital goal. One. I hope so. Oh, terrible. Or than four streams? Who well that could happen? I have to kill Colorado. Guys, we take quick pride. Yep. All right. Let's take a quick break week break firmly. 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We have a lighter shooting style was. I mean as every fan does I think every I wanna know what other people's favorite movies. All. Yeah. A lot of people are gonna say like empire up bit like, it's just. What what do you think in price are good? Because it's it's defense removes with filmed as a as a complete senior movie, he so the the Matic structure of that was the low point. So the film now MS that that darkness that came from the lot. Yep. I said that was the lowest point, and that's that's when we have heroes. They're all scattered. They're all said, look just gets his hand. Charlie character development way, they develop that's it. It's the fire and flames at the dominance own Nick. Well, swat Nikko said, it's story storylines development. It's in the right pot. What it should be? Because when it comes to a trilogy you need to have the heroes be at a low point. Because then it comes in the arc of them having redemption at the end. So basically what it starts off as that? Luke is knowing a little bit. What he can't if in touch from what be one can tell. Him or anything? And he's goes former retain we see him slowly little development stuff with that. But then it gets to the point way. Looks like I go stop Vader now, and I'm going to do that. And you're like, no, you can't take him. And that's why when all this is the fight between Vader, and Luke and fade absolutely crushes, Luke, not even a competition. He out POWs him in the foresee he out POWs anything possible when it comes to doing it. And then that's the reveal of the one that made it when gas from the cinema back then of that reveal is spoiler alert. If you haven't seen a forty year old. Luke's father and some guide book. Yep. I have people get mad at me when I talk about older films, and they lie all what I was going to watch. You weren't going to watch a street dot design costs. I've caused. Yeah. The right. You're working to watch the sets you've fucking on Chicago. You went gonna watch the films lying. What she gets the wizard of Oz your asshole. Yeah. But that it is it's it really enforces. The low a lot of low by by school about Star Wars. We learn about. Again, that the is openly willing to work and high bounty hunters to get what they want done. We learn about more about the the Hutt cartel entirely. We learn about the consequences of missing with the hearts of basically, the infamous hunt salute table is and but yeah, it's like the down point. But again, we get a lot of new scenery. It's it's a complete opposite. When you compare it to the first one, we look at the settings and everything to build up, we go from Sky City, we go to to space best been seek a lot. Yeah. I just wanna leave on this. Yeah. In the clouds joy. And again. The film torture. Fucking. Empire just made fate of really bad ass when it comes down to you think of all the scenes that he's in. He's he's he's bullying dash he's Hansel tries to take showroom, and it doesn't do anything. He what he's hand. Listen to have I cook suffo-. Made a lovely meal. I just showed me. I Hans solo to be stop instantly everything test. That's the thing is that both affect complaints to abandon just you'll get compensated. Who cares? Basically out of it like he didn't care about human life. Yeah. I mean, we call them humans. In what in style was. I guess one on annoyed law. Yeah. Remember, they use the universal language of the universe. Haven't you ever watch Star Trek Stargate? Everyone speaks English in the. Yeah. It's the universal language is English. Sorry, the universe languages American like in the mummy, everyone in Egypt speaks English. Yet. Same reason I love pie because of that everyone fucks up. Also, see free gets absolutely wrecked. So that got a standing ovation when that happened? Hello say, he does a right thing. I find them really annoying. He's frustratingly annoying. Be needs to may. Because he's tried me. You just have the the people will report will pre we're about the art through three. He's the translator. Yeah. So basically, he's like do they need a translator because whenever and talks like Hano, he just adds his back like he knows what he's. Someone's face you, and then language you reply in guild native language. Saith repeal was like Michael Talbot to to his. So he he translated him every single time. He said something safer appear would repeat it and agree or disagree. So it was it was on getting rid of one get rid of the other. Okay. Both. Yeah. That's that's what's that style. Was in a nutshell moss. Have you seen? The coin was atomization by Gandhi. India? I have not dude do missing out. So my Netflix queue, but there's so much shimmer. Netflix queue. Element often times. How many probably about half? Now. The five minutes stories really tie things about forty five minutes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like an episode of things like. Oh, it's like an episode of Pingu finish watching on. Oh, actually the. A on the floor. Feels like. The Star Wars. Cartoon by Gandhi's fucking amazing all the backstory of all of as well like Jedi. General grave is that pot hall gory vis excess. So terrifying. Let's out is it's like if you went into see the clone wars, you would have been absolutely confused when he sold his who's coughing robot on him. But he's actually in was Klein was cutting ways. I revealed and it how shows gets engine everything. Yeah. And shows how much of a bad as is yet Buchan terrifying. Holy crap is terrified makes window soup or pea in that show. Amazing p. Yeah. That's the whole thing. We do. Yeah. Windu? Everybody was even fucking anikin. Oh, yeah. Such a good thing. That's anything more videos you. Yeah. Let's talk a few video games the best one or not. Not being impartial. As before. This compensations Oehler of sorry. That's one of the worst games. Best best game Genaro cost. Actually, it's not to. Thank he doc forces to Jonah, actually, it's tie fighter. Rogue one. One via game pointing click adventure. Play this and make diseases. I remember that was appointing click venture style game where you play predominantly as vita is salmon, Maxine the road. This possibly actually played his Veda, and he would actually go off and take care of all like empire business meetings and everything control at night, we control of supplies and everything he would just go. Leisure suit vita. Yeah. Yet Mukasa Calcuta on. The new one that's coming out soon. New Jeddah across it's on the new July cost, but it's a new new salvos game. It's a it's story story based it's not a wool game. Does it have cockatoo on shoal? Why not I can't be in it? Then I mean, this call Catan feeding like where does he fit into the whole chronology of Sowell's at what what era have long after before the mouse. That's. He's anyone that came off to the Disney before the Disney Blat just anymore. Sorry, everyone. He's just Doug chin said that means dash won't Ren does gone. Dash Rendova is no calm because. If you watched The Empire Strikes back just as the millennium falcon is taking off out of hall. You see death as head? And then if you Kate what Dr. Pose it on the C. He's holding a sign. Listen, really carefully pot. Bajic area. Turn off the volume. You'll hear fuck me. Listen behind my stash, Ren. Is true. Listen carefully. If you listen to it goat. Rob baker's it will say. Ashtray? All right up next to it as well. People lean against you'll be hugging. That's. That's. He's. And also Star Wars shares the same universes cooler. Yeah. So what like actual Catholic? I think I think it was actually flew was a giant L debase type Munster. Lots of tentacles figure had plenty of males. That is. So does that mean style was? Before time with great old ones. I think well, what would make sense HP lovecraft knew about the Star Wars before. Yeah. They they go away from this giant throughly taught months the by driving pasta, gravity. Well, and it got sucked into no, well, then it's not a good with Oli is still cannot dye. Well, I don't think it's dead just enough earth moving. Three. That happened. Oh, and they made the kessel rod in like twelve point five posits. The castle. That's what you said. A rod. I'll just Kessler Noche actually did what what he's the Kesse run its way to Kissel. Or is it just a special run nothing? It's to castle from cover from anywhere. If you could make it from anyway, because I think you can only get to kessel from a particular gate something and then to go through the gate takes like twenty six or something. But then Han solo just like Google out of that in went into the went out. It was pretty easy to go rounding in spice, not this pot here. It was like lots of sheet like asteroid belt. So that. Dirt think the ship was fossil. Just very lucky. They didn't die. When they went through this. I mean, you can't take the shortcut this just a high of dying pretty much make most shortcuts any should could make it. But I just didn't go round. Also, they'll being chased by tie fighters. Right and hunt solo used the millennium falcon as an actual weapon. So. With its flat described those like a tie fighter flawed, flip the shipper Radha. You just the this. So Roxy, really cool. Okay. That's why it's flat. That's awesome. Yeah. Guy Han vegetate. All right. Let's talk about. Earns anybody we want that shit. God, I'm on the only one. He'll okay, I saw the Ameri Julian why this show and that we're doing nail I'm getting sip spoilers, and I will eventually watch it because you know, may I'm more of Ginny person rather than a an eventual Asian person. So what is happening in game of thrones at this. Okay. So we are going to talk if you spoil his ear right here right here. Ratna right here right now see that fat boy slim Arlo Febres lava saga. So the night kings, gone all even know he was day. King is the zombie mean, he's the leader of the white will that's cool created as on bees. Which are the what's the coal the white Wilkins nor so so the zone bees themselves ones that you say that people they're not actually why will they code watts. I think decried about the white we'll rights so the the white walkers is the ones who create them. And then the later of the white woke is is the night king who was like the first by Wilco. Yup. And he did. Yeah. He died who killed him. Johnstone's? I know we seen the Clifton. Badly done as well stock on us, are you and she woke up. She's hey king this. Oh, yes. She tried to stab him in the face. And he's just like, Nope. Literally the itell- behind, you know. Up and then she stabbed him with a villian still dagga which killed everything. Because it's not king made the all the white walkers, and the what walkers credited the rest of the army, everybody all the undone just died. Okay. That's how that works. So that's all revolve. Yep. But the narrator. Entire army is going like all death. Rocky a dead. Most of our unsullied dead. So we have three episodes lift up. So now, we have the feudal bitching, or volunteer is in charge of the know do the shocking marmot the most shocking moment from this entire season. It's when had. Also there like Dr. Jury. We're like, oh my God. Like scrapie when our had sick. Yes. I know I feel kind of say someone who I appeared in the show like twelve with. Yes, it just like. Was like. It just shows how much he's growing. I guess still has a young body. I guess she's bucking a midget Neely tiny ads like she's only just barely toll than Tyrian. Apparently, it must have been pretty awkward for her onset too. I mean, it must be tough for people to do these kind of stuff especially scenes like that. When you feel like she would it be like, yes. Show one on I want to be seen as this small. Yeah. Okay. So we we come into the we're in the end the game. Now, no way. Why what about like more of a game of thorns is about? The game game of thrones. That yes, are they going to deal with ESI? Now. A what says, Yup. Up to fucking kill everybody. I guess officers jail jail. She she broke out of jail. I'm more sense as in full do catch up. And it's like, do you know why I'm much since eight full? Okay. So I wanted to watch it legally because I'm an office, and I respect and support our artists. Yeah. Let me to stop his Dan lead quickly. And I wanted to wait till came out and David ABC refused to Foxtail. Yup. Because it's pace sheet. Yup. And Hypo fuck off and go with someone else next time, please. And then I wait until the DVD came in. Season five David took like a year and a half off the final episode that point I'll totally fucked forgotten up. Not no, let's face it, Tom. I finally realized the final season. Yep. Fair enough. But I'm gonna watch beginning. I'm gonna stop very star on us because I think I think it's been enough time where I can really hold it in again and accept the whole. That's what she shopped phone shows off too when they finish his will if you, but you will be spoiled things get. I even raid Walking Dead spoilers for myself just for funsies because I want to know I don't care about the on a life saying how it happens just because someone dies LeMay anything to me. Oh, not just that like take Walking Dead 'cause you breathe. Like, I guess you check out some the comic stuff. Right. And that would change from the actual shows. Well, it is totally different. So people I've heard people like all, you know, a couple of this is how came it's going to end, blah, blah, blah, or it's the book that Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe Joe will finally release. Joe Joe in hey, still has to release after relations the woods Witter, motherfuckers. Never dating did go to be completely different. He's as never gonna. I'm gonna say this. Now, you heard it from me Joe Jarman will never finish the written version of game of thrones. Yeah. It will be picked up by somebody else. It'll be gauche written in the end posture. Mislead by someone else often he dies of a heroin overdose. Just trying to meet his deadline only up to three. Fucking. No, man. What are you doing is trying to like describe food personally describes food in like glorious detail eighty? That's why. Suckling pig as a as a fad drip from the suckling piglets apple mouth made it much and right? Todd writes, we'd like to fingers because everybody else's coveting. Grace. Rocks. Like, he literally rods like this Nie. Yeah. No. Old school computer on? Well, that's better. Because I remember I used to do my Simon says a kid on old tidy. Type bread is terrible. Roles like doesn't even have any programs on the gotta whenever he was heading George. He writes. Georgia's like, we'll make Cape Ron. Just as capable. And then tell me why you know, what I bet you doing. He's just floaty pool. Like the all of his days, he's probably just pool like in one of those floating doughnut things eighty. Of the game of thrones seem eighty that's all that's all. I imagine George doing and the game roads music just plays by then. Eighty hours just the studio needs another season to sign of Artaud. Georgia. Oh or hall it's coming along. And he goes back to just lying in the pool. I'm very excited for the pre personally that gonna release a prequel making full spills full spinoffs. Like, I mean, you have you have day one today. Twenty five million of this universe to deal with actually join it really interesting. I've I really really dream about finale. This is the most obscure thing I was in the canal. Doing what I was hot of a really futuristic society history class at university learning about the game of thrones. So what it was I was in history class and the whole show was a class learning about these events as he's Trump. History clause like how we learn about Romans and sheet. Everyone just learning into biting about this stuff whether dragons existed, that's fun. I like that. And I was like wait a second. Why am I heal? That is very fun. I like that. That was my my little dream. If it ends like that, that's spooky sheet. That'd be a phenomenal upset class side to drag cut. So dumb. Okay. Actually fly lost. It'll be like I did it cuts back to the future is so who became king? It's like well, actually. We don't have any. That's a story for this. This. What's that? No says that we don't actually know as it's like we'll fuck days lost. Right. Well is not gonna it's gonna. Just going to be on. I think it'd be NAR Tyrian than little guy on the far now on the throne Tyrian. I don't know who the fuck injury. Also. He's he's he's probably the the wrongful air to this thrown. Well, well, you know, why Robert was chosen to be king wasn't just because he it's not just because he overthrew the Matt king because he actually does have a shed ancestor of the tug Aaron's. That's why. So he's he's got tug Aryan blood running through Zaid semi's injuries. He's he's sort of very distant. But so it's always Joan snows intially. He's motagua. He's the most Gary. Why like wise the area in the benchmark though when did the tug Arians rule every up to date? What? Yes. So basically the tug Aaron's kinda like else from Lord of the rings. Yes, said the very special dispersed glowing purple is or something like that. By the way, the actually have dragons blood oughta when they came over like how many thousands ease ago guy came dragons. He's like you'll now this is my country everything all these kingdoms belong to me. And if you I'll just been all you down. So the Parham manages. Yeah. Well, no parliament. I'd dragons dragon. But the funny thing is the early the only country kingdom thin about Antoine was dawn, do not all really. Yep. That's why prince Martell. That's why though I will keep the titles of princes and princesses. Well, all the other is 'cause the stocks the king stock was killed it off. Right. But I had the bow down and then become the water north, right? Same with same with a tyrel 's down, but the the mottos did not. So they actually kept them obey. They were able to fight off the dragons have many years, eventually, they're like, I guess, we'll join your kingdom. And that's while the to keep the titles of prince and Princess. Interesting the whole backstory like everything to do. With is just amazing. How about we skittered over to the end of avengers? Yes. The end game now. Yes, now, we're in the end-game endgame zone. Panthera tent and. Every single. No, it's in the officers are the the credit zone. You guys. Welcome to news on kost. Nick, your thoughts outlets of my full. It's I like that it ended. Oh, I can't give it credit of end of the I've been by grew up on the model films when they were in a much more terrible period as b b badly be listed movies and everything else. Like that. The only good ways you had watching good model stuff was either. If you got lucky to see the nineties all the books that was basically it. So when I actually saw captain America, and the updated of the MC you and everything it was exactly what I wanted as a kid and everything, but yeah, it's just come down to fatigue after all this has been more than ten years. Now when it comes to what your needs films and everything, and I think everything that could be done has been done. And I think it's a nice wrap up the entire series and everything else. So that. But yeah, that's all I can say is. I'm actually I can look back on the whole thing and say, I'm happy how the did turn out and everything except will one movie that just decided to let the end, but hey, guys looks like you have a coup potty tobacco. No. But yeah, that's like really think about like a lot of films that I even I didn't expect that I wouldn't enjoy like ant man was very critical of ant man, because I read a lot of the atman books and everything about that. As there's no way you can make an atman film. It is just like it is way. And they they nailed it for two two and mental really loved films. Yes. Really? Really, see even I think that actually they also what I'm looking for all those very with the original content, or what kind of counter English today, very loose, the very respectful, that's ritual. Content originally wanted hang him. This came at you like, why are they doing Scott? Yeah. But then when I watched them like, you know, what this is this works. Really? Well, get other surprise like gutting the galaxy. I saw it free times in the cinema. I was absolutely grise of how good guide to the galaxy is say say that would be I would consider that the morning Star Wars more than anything else from what it was able to pull. Everybody's Hans solo. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, there's there's a lot of things that came along that I didn't suspect that will do you right in? In the question. Had you find in gave well again. So I really like the it wasn't shit. That is I can't say it's bad. It's just there's some questionable scenes here and there, but in the end, it's nice wrap of I can I cannot entirely say it's bad because the bad film that I can't I cannot recommend it or anything. I can recommend it for the ending anyone. That's what all the previous bubble everything rhapsody love. But like, that's the way the site. I cannot flat out say, it's bad bad. I can't even say it's bad in itself because some scenes I enjoyed and everything else. This question will stuff lots and lots of questions stuff. We had discussions before about scenes that we didn't think make sense or anything else like that. Will why certain things happened and everything else that at the same time? But on the grand scale, we have to look at it comes to the end. And how it gets as how they the best way that I would describe it is and game is an okay movie with sheet scenes yet. Bad scenes in that. I just did not long but most a Rhodes our K, but it's it's kinda forgetful. Yeah. Yeah. So the very loss of engines movie, it's a forgettable movie very forgettable compared to Infinity wars, which was very very good in comparison. Very odd clinic moments any will remember a lot of stuff from Vinnie wills, and I haven't even watched in a year. But I still remember a lot of scenes from the top of my head. So in events and everything happened and everything else. Let that versus endgame. I'm having right now, I'm having a very hard time remembering certain saints because there's a lot of nothing in that. Felt like doctor shrine shoot. Then mole when he came back. Stop water from flooding the place. That's what he's doing. I just I just actually I caught stand the character. Doctor strange. I'll Lacombe that's fine. There was a lot of characters. I could that we've seen in previous films with much more greater abilities to suddenly like doctor strange. I'm just gonna stop this water from rushing. Can you make multiple versions of yourself and have someone else do that? And then you just fine. Yes. Could be Craina portals all the water runs. The poodles. It was school push it back onto itself may be. Yeah. We've seen him do other. It's like when it comes to fennel. So you said it perfectly goes finals is not the character. He was from Las film. Just completely gutted as a character. Yeah. And before anyone does brought in height miles. Oh, that's because that's that's prey on us like before he's still the same. Like Eddy are equal. He had he had a character off union Finnity wall. Right. An I feel I completely broke him down because they just he just looked tidied looked unapologetic of add anything. I mean, he's always on the politics. But he looked it looked unmotivated. Yup. He was just playing. He was Bailey init-. That's what comes down to the wasn't his movie eventually event is movie, but he's the main villain though. And that's the factor is that he stopped being the main villain like he wasn't finished wool. He's completely different villain. And like it. It wasn't that far. I mean Santus that Dodd at the start of the movie and thunnus at the end of the move. Easy. The versions of them weren't too far apart in the grand scheme of things yet though five years apart. Remember? Really five as a pup. I'm talking about. No. That's that's that's that's Fatah's. Yeah. On the phone. Oh, set kind through the future. Yeah. Yeah. Mike, they not very different. It seemed like he he he came in. He found this easy way to get all the stars mainly then sale whited, I'm gonna white. Why? Dramatic effect. I guess I need to destroy everyone this time, and I'm gonna do it. Right. Yeah. Fair enough who've job some just gonna say first of all I didn't hype the film. I don't height many films. I felt like this was I sort a lot light up. Then you goes, I feel like this was hyped up way beyond what it was supposed to be that was that was expectedly. Yeah. Not even because I've waited so long. It was hyped up mole. Yes. So exciting movies hopped it up like I don't take any notice of any media renting like that reviews and one other people say, but there's huge hot behind because it's a lost avengers movie. And at the end when the credits rolled up Dodd. This going to be eight credits. Not easy pay. It wasn't anything at the. It was so strange to think that people will complaining that. There was no in credits aid. And I was like the what what did you think? Galactic stats his final. Do it myself. What was fair that would be Bazy? And I would've been looking forward to seeing you that actually happened. Fine. I'll do buy sell. Give the ultimate Nomo nullify. I think it's cold you'll nullify that destroy universe goose. I'm raising funds. These it's like everyone just does this ship. So. What was your outlook on engaging in in game was a movie? Yelling. The Russo brothers released a article that said that it is three hours long. And there is no good time to go to the bathroom. I take issue with that really not mainly to the fact that there was plenty of times, you could go to the bathroom in that film. Mostly some of the saints with Iran just sitting around wanting about the snap. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Pretty much anything with sock. Like, yeah. Yeah. They dragged on and I've a few other issues that I really need to speak in you guys can feel free to fight me on these don't you guys. I'm in the orients. I don't believe a five year time jump was necessary. It was no need for even to rationalize ant man's disappearance. Congress that was the any kind of Tom jumped necessarily like I think a month a month a month would have been a basin period snap that would have been. You know, it's like I was gone for five hours have said all five minutes in other could've compressed that into anything. Because demand of things you got to think about the new the new willed of marvel in the next phase gonna be such a different broken world that they can have to talk a lot of loose ends. The not gonna do that. No, exactly. And that's what I'll be upset if they don't because this is a world where people have moved on from their loved ones early on. A gonna be upset. I'll know I won't be upset. It'll take me out of the reality of this this universe. I'm already out of the reality. Like, I'd still be invested. Just because I I'm still gonna watch them because I just wanna say with getting it might be interesting. But you know, how many suicides have occurred after this nap and in that five years in between how many people would have moved on what the hawk to school one day in office clauses or graduated like with opposed to know. Now, we know he's Asian friend called snapped as well what if he didn't get snapped? There's just there's so much that five years could have happened and has called having to the snap on a plane. Back in the end. They just Foley snapped looking oil rigs, and it's not there anymore. Taxicab drivers driving. Anybody who's driving had five years of paper producing racehorses but for half the population of again rice, so Suzie when suddenly the rate three point eight billion people re-appeal. Oh, yeah. Everybody's gonna stop get hungry. Real claim you. You know, you've made some more problems. A lot of problems any atop the universe is come back and understand that's made peaking it a very weird day title. It's true. That in think about what was going to have an off the woods. And that's another thing. I'd miss you with like annoy. Okay. I'll talk about some goodies. The in fought, I think was really really. Captain America when he when he wielded those. Look at you. You really try to think of something something the end fight with Thole. Kevin ranker nine-man was really well done. I think the the Cario refuse good. It wasn't to the level of Infinity was fought. Yeah. That was just nothing. We'll beat that saying with the enemy fight. Yeah. On our stars a fuck and moon. So I think that was that was probably the best part. It was a couple of saints during the time. I like the time travel element. A like I didn't like the time travel element alive. The places they visited and how it showed us different aspect of the battle of Los Angeles Neo hold of the Bella, Neil and all that stuff. And you know, we paid a quilt from a different angle. And I was like he's just to be seen that is is gonna any sang. Eighty. Yes. I love the favorites aid. Mazey having when we start missing with time as when you start really causing questions and problems yourself and. I don't like when movies tell their audience not to question them yet. Which is what Bruce vanity directly to the audience and man was questioning Tom try one of my things that I got a question about movies. How did the evil nebula all the positive know about future that you'll up a full future nebula knew about positive Bula? The should've known about each other the exact same time yet that was see adult thing about and and they didn't explain that the nebula very well. It's like all they've just crossed because they're robotic yet. But, but that doesn't make sense if they robotic that means she would be limited to the tech. She's at the time the time to learn about each other at the exact same console only future nebula would have known. Yes. But it make more sense because future tonight. And then she would be wanted people that is coming and everything because she knows from the past of all that that make sense not them collide together. It was source. Tara, she can't do. And just some of the stuff with the time and help twenty feet it. Add like, two minutes. Yeah. Sorry, twenty stock. I wanna fuck the kept a mobile Turney stuck in their Bula floating in space. Yeah. That's the one co tattoo talk about I don't I don't know. And also, captain novels. Role in that film was redundant yet. Those bring doned for a post credit sane to have him using his special Pasia, which he's had through every single Yovel avengers filled. Yeah. Like, you know when buck in New York being attacked by fucking aliens from another on me. That's a pretty good. All when a giant city was about to be dropped from the sky by Altron fanfare hunt Kolkata model. Yeah. You assume that the next movie is gonna be very heavy on the marvel. Yeah. She was Bailey present in that whole field yet like high and then she flew away. Yes. She crashed. She. I feel like Thon coming to with would have been something. Nick theory would have found out about pretty quickly. I feel like it would be a text from Kappa Merrick on. Hey, by the way, this is coming. I was gonna kill everybody. He he didn't even eat tasty. Just need look at his window. Pocket out though, that I feel like they're multiple times where he could a cold. She would run up Elliott takeout thunder. What nNcholas this character has. No when you think about it for the entire plot. She has no purpose to the plot. Yes. She doesn't. She doesn't go back in time to help. He doesn't go with the Infinity's still need to know. How did she find Hertie stock and nebula floating? How it doesn't make any sense in the fucking back space. How many how far away from fucking earth or whatever just somewhere and she found him and he only had like minutes to leave. I I think I think he right out oxygen as she not just that. She carried she carrying the back before he dies. Yes. How did you carry the body? Can we've seen that she has to go through the teleport's else on the ship. Couldn't do how did she carry them back before he died so this, and that's what I'm saying? These movie has a little questions Infinity war kind of tidal. Loosens? They did a very good job of tying loses. These movies left. And that's not what you want from an ending not to mention captain mobile role as was redundant. But she has what like the call Mushin boosts Andro she's to or pay for this universe. They've created a character. That's true path will so they couldn't utilize properly without breaking character. We'll having just flat out. Introducing other kids after introduce another character. Let's just as powerful more powerful than exactly and that's the room like in dragon ball soup margin booth fell asleep during the registration. So he just narrowly avoided. Recruited for the tournament because you knew one. Yes, he's Barry's unfounded like he's sorry strong. No, he could just exorb- another strong stronger. Captain marvel has Moshen boosts Andro and it's annoying because they have to utilize nail at what capacity is always gonna come down to the fact that it's like, hey, this is stronger. Actually, there's more planets in the universe at eight to help. So sorry is that just going to be the excuse from now on I guess, and when I heard that whether on the holograms that she said that, you know, there's plenty of planets out, then none of your fucking planet. God damnit woman. None of them. None of the planet either. And none of them are trying to resolve did. Yes. None of them are just trying to bang rox together in helping. In helping the heroics questionable. And then when she just came down and then crusher the ship crashed through the ship. And then she started fucking boring Donner's until even with the Infinity until he removed the Palestine and then punched in the face with it understand how. That could have happened because one of the things about the Infinity gauntlet is that the it's not just giving him the power of the Stearns actually work off each other. So the Palestine actually makes the space turn more powerful at every other stern will every start makes each other way, more powerful. So his think the affiliate win having every single stern. Right. That means h of their pals times by what how many stories he has that much more powerful. It's even the explain the Infinity goal itself from even the books. They found us explains. A very very carefully one mistake can ruin everything. Like one mistake, you could do can raise your entire existence without even knowing I think the work around there that people will fight back with ease that he was still interfacing with the Infinity goal at that point. Like when he put it on still it was still charging up to his his K. He was going. That's bullshit. That is. He was showing he was going to his job that was a boost. That is like if that was the case that is the case get the mobile should just flow of Florida like, yeah. And also how the hell is removing the Palestine, and then punching her in the face with it more effective. Why is that more effective? Bodied him. That is ridiculous. This guy bodied the hulk Bruce banner hulk that we saw this was out of control anger filled hope which is when he's at his strongest, and he embodied him like there was no competition between him in the hope. Yeah. Exactly. It's just in the pal contest. And he clearly crushed someone who's way more powerful. It was just it was redundant the whole. I think the Russo brother should have taken it would have paste fans, I should have taken an extra year. They should really taking kept the mouse should not being in this movie. He should not have like us to kick start off a whole new model university. You right. But why washing her shoe horror shooting into this Bill just doesn't make any sense to me like fucking mouse. This problem. Cut them. All this movie, though, we've already finished. It wasn't a question. So I'm having to last riders all. That's what happened probably. Busiess you it wasn't a bad movie. I'll never gonna go out and say, it's a bad movie. Just eight. What's it again? I'll probably think it's a bad movie on the risk of that same as well. I could watch it at home in probably enjoy it more because in this day and age fucking three hours a longtime yet specially to Cape concentrate all three hours, I mean. Okay. If I start to get bored in film. That's not a good thing. I sat you the revenue. Yeah. And enjoyed every single second of that movie revenue. You know, what you for his? The snow being that was awesome. That was run time. If three plus hours, right? So that was a long movie done rise. I didn't make him distracting. Oh, really? Is that the old we usually say the revenue? I love it. What you didn't pay flashbacks or or is it literally associated show? What happens is I know it departing from in game. But that's because we're talking about another movie. That's cool. He's he's a triple and he's worked with Trump is they about to get a bunch of heights and taking back to the area and attacked by native Americans. And they have to go the long way round back to this thing. And. Lejnata is going look for food. And then all of a sudden he sees a big companies like get out of him. Then he tends joint. And it just law to that two seconds. This is the most horrific bay moly you trust to get static it in the neck and stuff, but he tries to shoot it in new phase. And then it rolls him over stretches of beat of his throat area, scratches his back up. It does some damage and then tosses it on the ground? And then he tries to get up again. But it just launches it him again. So he's he's basically on death's door. So they're all taking just to interrupt. This is actually based off a real person. Yeah. And so they taking the long way and I have to carry him because he's about to die. And so the general in this other guy, go ahead to clear the path and get a good bearing on where they're gonna go. And you've got Tom Tom Hoti hanging behind up brand, by the way, they not to cover your has a son who's a native American we Scifo village. So Thome Hoti is like we we have to put him out of his misery doesn't make that. No one. So Sean, he'll he goes to kill Leonardo DiCaprio, but his son intervenes. Any kills his son Leonov McCaffrey of watches helplessly as gets mooted by tomatoey why because he wanted to kill laying on her. And so he watches encountering. And Tom how fuck these to kill you. You're gonna die soon, and he just leaves. And then it cuts full of these trolling trauma. Get wrapping is all he's just living and that movie does it end with killing them. Howdy una care. Yes button. If you wanna say an in battle for movie that is the frightening end fight you've ever seen in your life. Not easy. It is to men who were trying their hardest Dickey late. None of these kung FU bullshit. It is sucker punches biding stepping the hand doing anything. They can do to Savar. That's cool. And yeah, it's so that did not bore me in game. However gave me boring moments like the first act was really boring. As in the second act. You know picked up the third act was just Infinity. Yeah. Well at the end when literally too much shit was happening much tension dropped. Yeah. There's too much focus on anything yet. I missed the battle. Even call told me about scenes that happened that I completely missed because too much shit going on there's just too much sheet. Do you get that as well? It was it was too noisy. Can we talk about the one saying that really all those most amazing sisters dune it for them? I don't have an issue with the fact that they were showcasing the women. Oh school. I had an issue with the fact that I couldn't have done organically. Yeah. Yeah. Volcanically place it in rather than having them. Stand side by side in the middle of a battle Monday and say, don't worry, we got these. It could have been done in like a fought sane with gloves getting poss- between the mole. No one of those moments where it's like an uncut like one solid show every single venture love just being passed between them and that would show that. Teamwork bribery. Not just I've got this. Yeah. Sisters week. Got this engine that actually removed me from the movie. Yeah. Took me out of the second. I mean, I didn't even mind actually actually I did a bit. Everyone was already next to him. He didn't have to say if engines a sample wis all they will hear him. Other avengers assemble. A simple. It was just. Those are great pot. I loved it to be on a soda the shock ending where I where I'm at mentoring down and went up, but then grew big. I was talking about the shock ending with with the sacred character who was introduced that. Yeah. Oh, God kids. It's like keyed remind man three. Up recognize? Because he's going to be the new ironman easy. Really? I I I can only I seemed he's be the next man. I would've thought it would be in his daughter. They would've been still young. Just give head. You're going to have to fuck Inskeep. A hit to answer all the questions lost. Oh, well, those hod years. Earth is finally back to. Job your lack this. I told you to myself and Katima weren't age because would have. She's already like fucking white. How old is she? I think if used by right? I get confused by role in the. No because she was. The fighter pilot in the seventies. No in ninety ninety. Yes. That's where I wasn't the nineteen eighties or the nineties ninety. She was a five twenty then. So she's still should be like forty next. Boy, let's everyone they had women pilots in the nineties. They headwind posi- what will too. Okay. So she should be forty. But so she's not aging. So they can time jump anywhere mishit still be what hell old. She's. Yeah. So she's immortals. Well, let's get on your. Figuring mortality Thole. I didn't mind ending. I didn't mind though, is kind of off fat fill out that was pretty. It was pretty cold. Did it di- make mother? I was confused about the ads guardians, why would they all live? By donnas. There was two ships. I think hold coke has coke had his ship, but cogos on the ship with thorns stuff and everybody maybe honest in Slota Evren. Pru. Everybody maybe the gate Kepa or whatever his name like sent some people to. Hydro. Yeah. No. He only. Only someone enough out again more questions I keep opening. So why they were alive? This was pre snap as well. Yeah. That's true. He slaughted. Okay. So he slaughtered, Hoppy as gods. Pre snap. Well, the guys that will let let off the Helena well hell in order fucking name law. Hello. Yeah. So she already killed off the correct. And then thought killed hoffy as gods and then killed another half of the population that was left. The original. There wasn't that many begin with to be. Let's be on us because. Yeah. Hello. She killed hops owes fifty percent. And then took out another twenty five percent. So those only twenty five percent of what they originally were of the population. And then this nap took out another twelve point five percent twelve twelve point five percent of the population of as got some hers -ly. Oh, well, yeah. I just I don't understand. At the end of the question pile. Yep. And the whole any up with the guardians. I think would be good fit. I hope he got in Serie. How do you reckon going to work? Like, it's going to be interesting. Good maura. Pri Pri guardians on. So I wonder if James Gunn new battle that would've yet it was in the fide zone time. He would have you less and less than would have had three takes. Yeah. Doubt that I think they will pay it Saif arc in the will be and he'll play pot. Well, it'd be awesome. If they did that I'm guessing they'll do like Spiderman homecoming the sequel that they got Spiderman lay overseas or something. Overseas. Yeah. That's pretty snaps. That guardians will be yet. We haven't even go to trial for that yet. So it would be could possibly be. I am interested to save agents agents of shield will do with this. I didn't see the the previous season snap though. So, but I think it Monica in between archaeologist dot enough and off the five years. Yeah. You'll be during the five years. That's so that's. And so what's actually got snapped from a model? Hot take on in game. It wasn't bad fill. It was confusing. It wasn't. It wasn't the best way to end twenty two films Infinity ward to defend has job of reeling EL story and in the rooster. Brothers shat on us. They should've spent as I said another year really on annal kings hot enough that people would is the watch the time Cavo fade could've they could've could've had like seeks move. Seriously. If anybody from the masses listening just. Shoehorn shit like that in t- movies just under next. The secular that because as you said. I put her in before she earned Sola movie. Yeah. Yeah. They already filmed all of endgame full. I put her in that. And then maybe kept in wasn't as good because it was a frost. Definitely Sylvia rush. Like Arkan that miscast as well. I think the tech model characters are K like undermined. I think pre Lawson has been miscast you. You said ruby rose would probably be easily definitely a few others like. Can't think of anybody the Toma head. But I just don't see. Bree Lawson doesn't have that comic book edge. Can Scott your heads and has it. She's amazing. The all the kind of women that could face the con- women's oh. All the. One of the machine from the woman. I just love it. So she's two. Oh. She's great twist. Amazing. Scholar which great character. One of the triplet. Whatever happened to that third triplet. You don't wanna know? Call a witch Valkyries character of has she has pigs send the world, Tom. I wish had to pay Zachary's Wilson hair go as well. I wish I had to pick his, but like how she's a drunk as well. She's awesome. Let's see below. I think like every character like all those characters have flaws every single one was captain marvel designed to be flawless. I think so. I think so. Yeah, she's not relatable. Yeah. Not at all. Can you name what flows she had in their own film? She's too perfect. I think the flashbacks in a re- didn't even make Cincinnati. The is always having fun. You'll the best the most brave over is like, yeah. All the other characters. Nets nets like flashbacks. She's done some horrible, she'd scholar. She was working for the enemy and shields. She was captured and locked in an area with a test subject for hydra there. I gave her a pals Valkyrie like watched all of comrades die and then. Yeah. One of the biggest ones. You know, what game did well nebula? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It actually gave a lotta respect to her story life and character. Maybe it was an amazing Gary nebula good moral, but flawed. Yup. To definitely yeah. And I guess maybe that's she kept them. Awful has no flaws. Maybe that's she's not a reliable Carrico. Yep. Definitely. And it's not like a con- relate to a female character bullshit already. We've talked about that. I can that. She wasn't when you could not at all. All right. 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The Cleveland Strangler Pt. 2: Anthony Sowell

Serial Killers

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The Cleveland Strangler Pt. 2: Anthony Sowell

"They do the graphic nature of this killer's crimes listener. Discretion is advised. This episode includes discussions of violence murder and sexual assault that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen. By December of two thousand eight. Winter had taken hold of Cleveland Ohio. A line of customers waited outside a pizza shop on Imperial Avenue Shivering in the wind as they waited for their food. Suddenly their piece was interrupted. When a frantic woman push past the line and burst through the door the customers started a protest as she rushed the counter. But they're angry grumbles turned to scared murmurs when they got a good look at the woman. Her expression was crazed. Her hands were covered in blood and her face and neck were badly bruised. The woman said her name was Gladys Wade and begged the cashier to call the police. She claimed there was a man chasing her. He was trying to kill her. Some of the customers scoffed at her story. Drug use was rampant in the area by two thousand eight and everyone had seen their fair share of addicts rave about Phantom tears in the streets soon enough. The owner came out and told gladys that she would have to leave. She was bleeding where people were trying to eat. No one helped gladys as she tried to protest of. You even ignored her to greet someone across the street. She world around to see Anthony so well limping towards the pizza shop. Smiley as blood dripped from his neck. Gladys fled the shop screaming anthony so well was only a few steps behind. Hi I'm Greg pulsing. This is serial killers. Apar- cast original every episode. We dive into the minds madness of serial killers. Today we will complete our exploration into the attacks of Anthony so well the Cleveland Strangler. I'm here with my co host minister. Richardson Hi everyone. You can find episodes of serial killers and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream. Serial killers for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type. Serial killers in the search bar at podcast. We're grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do it we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network in the last episode we covered Anthony so wells childhood and his history of drug use and sexual violence. We also explored how his living conditions deteriorated as he became more of a recluse and eventually a murderer in this episode will follow Anthony as his bloodlust. Intensifies will also discuss investigators shocking discovery of eleven rotting bodies strewn throughout his house of horrors On May first two thousand eight forty eight year old anthony so well felt the urge to kill again. It had only been a couple of weeks since he'd murdered his victim. Leshan Long at his home in Cleveland but the dark impulse was stronger than ever before to calm himself. Anthony walked down to the basement to bask in his latest gruesome handiwork. No one would ever find most of the Shawna's potty Anthony hadn't buried it in his backyard with his first victim but he did keep. Leshan does decapitated head in a bucket which he stashed in the basement that day. Anthony noticed that the bucket had teeth marks around its edges. No doubt from rat scavenging for scraps. He hurried to move the Ben to a high shelf not wanting the rodent to ruin his trophy afterward. He went outside for some fresh air. He was unemployed and spent a majority of his time either locked in his attic room or out in the streets searching for scrap metal to resell bat night. He ran into someone else who was having a hard time getting their life together. Thirty year. Old To shauna culver was in the midst of one of the worst nights of her life before she met Anthony. She quit her job and had gone to see her children at her mother's house but her mother had refused to let her daughter in to. Sean struggled with an addiction to crack through mother. Didn't want to Sean his children to see her until she'd gotten clean once and for all after being turned away to sean return to the streets more lost and lonely than ever. That's when she ran into Anthony who made easy conversation with her. He knew what it was like to struggle with addiction. And exactly what to say to tap into to Shanas vulnerability within minutes. Anthony tempted to Shauna to come smoke crack with him at his house. We don't know exactly what happened. Axed as Anthony never went into detail about of his murders but we know from forensic evidence that he strangled her with his hands. As was the case for many of Anthony's victims to Shana covers disappearance was largely ignored by authorities because mostly targeted people suffering from drug addiction. Police were slow to investigate believing that the missing addicts were likely on some kind of bender and would turn up sooner or later. The same dismissive mindset allows many serial killers to operate undetected for years. Venice is going to take over on the psychology here throughout the episode. Please note. Vanessa is not a licensed psychologist or psychiatrist but she has done a lot of research for this show. Thanks Greg according to forensic psychologist Dr Joni. Johnston serial killers often specifically target victims. Who they believe will not be missed. She writes serial killers often succeed not because of their cunning and masterful plan but because they either choose vulnerable victims or they take advantage of other people's basic goodness. They stack the deck in their favor. As an addict himself. Anthony saw the social consequences. Drugs could bring and how addicts were often ignored by police. He knew exactly where to find drug abusers and how to convince them to trust him. The indifference of the authorities helped at the continue killing. But it wasn't just the police who seemed unconcerned about his victims. Drug use was rampant in the area where anthony lived and many residents of this neighborhood. Also look down on people struggling with addiction for example in the documentary unseen the owner of a liquor store down the street from Anthony's home later said that he wished there were a million of anthony so wells because he cleaned up the garbage preferring to the addicts. Anthony killed attitudes like this enabled anthony to vent his violent frustrations on whoever he pleased. In fact despite a reputation for being somewhat reclusive anthony was largely well liked among his neighbors. Few people had anything bad to say about him. Aside from commenting on they revolting smell emanating from his home. In the summer of two thousand eight the stench was especially rancid and many residents actively avoided the street outside because the heat made the odor even worse. Anthony himself seemed immune to the smell and spent much of his time smoking and drinking while Lockton side. He wandered around his hall often noticing the trash and junk piling up on top of his victims without carrying he even ate his meals in the rooms right next to the dead bodies with a more excitement these sickening conditions helped anthony relive his past murders and for a while. He believed they kept him from going out to kill again but eventually the rage always returned in September of two thousand eight. He went out searching for yet another victim this time. He loitered by the bus stop near his house until thirty five year. Old Vanessa Gay approached and sat down on the bench Anthony Mused aloud seemingly to himself saying it was a shame that he has spent his birthday that a alone in reality he had turned forty nine the previous month. His ploy got Vanessa talking and soon enough. Anthony Casually mentioned that. He had drugs and alcohol back at his home. He invited her to come to his place to smoke and celebrate. Vanessa agreed and followed him down the street as they walked. Few passersby greeted anthony like an old friend. Clearly he was popular. It made Vanessa feel a bit better about going home with a stranger but once she got to his house. Vanessa had reason to be worried. She'd used drugs in dirty places before but none of them had ever smelled quite so bad. Anthony didn't acknowledge the stanch. So Vanessa tried her best to ignore it. She followed him up the stairs past ever-growing heaps of junk to the third floor. The attic bedroom was just as dark and cluttered as the rest of the home. Anthony hurried around the rue moving things around and rooting around in the refuse. Vanessa's zoomed grabbing stash. But just when she turned away to find somewhere to sit anthony world around and without Warning Punch. Manasseh in the face the Nessa nearly toppled over just managing to get her bearings. As Anthony ordered her to take off her clothes. He told Vanessa that women had taken advantage of him time and time again and he planned to get those women back. Who did him wrong? It's hard to know exactly what happened. He believed he was doing but he clearly thought of his mission as Righteous. He likely resented his ex girlfriend. Laurie who had broken up at that months before Anthony Salvin Essa is other victims as stand INS for a woman. He thought had wronged him. Mary Myers Criminal Profiler said that Anthony had learned from his bringing. That women were second class to him. The women's remains were like garbage. He saw no problem with abusing and killing any woman he saw to him. They were all the same. Vanessa was simply another outlet for his rage after be rating her and forcing her to strip. Anthony raped and assaulted her then. He fell asleep next to her. As if they were a couple Vanessa could do was remain motionless on the bed. Afraid that if she moved anthony would wake up and beat her again. She laid next to him for hours until the sun. Finally rose and Anthony Woke Up. He seemed more composed than before and didn't acknowledge what he'd done the previous night as calmly as possible. Vanessa asked him where the bathroom was. Anthony let her nonchalantly down the hall as they approach the bathroom. He realized in a panic that he had left the door to the Jason Room. Wide Open inside was a decaying body wrapped in plastic bags. He turned to see if Vanessa had noticed but she had already passed the open door and gone into the bathroom. Once inside Vanessa trembled uncontrollably. She had definitely seen the corpse in the corner of the other room yellowed and crusted with dried blood. Now she knew for sure. A killer was waiting outside the door for her. She was going to be his next victim after collecting herself. Vanessa decided that our best chance would be to play dumb. She walked out of the bathroom and return to the bedroom as casualty she could at that. He studied her still unsure if she'd seen the other body after looking her up and down awkwardly. Anthony told Vanessa with a shaking voice that he couldn't let her go. She would tell someone what had happened. Vanessa continued to play innocent pretending. She was confused. She told Anthony that she had no idea what he was talking about. Nothing had happened at this. Anthony seemed to relax when Vanessa asked to leave. He walked through the door and locked it. In a surreal haze. She walked out onto the bright street and made for her friend's house a few miles away. Along the way Vanessa remembered people on the street laughing at her bruised and bloody appearance. Sympathy wasn't easy to find in that neighborhood. Vanessa tried her best to keep your head down at ignore the ridicule at long last. She reached her friend's home in hidden inside for the rest of the day. She felt sure Anthony would show up again to grab her if she stepped back out into the street after experiencing the terrifying walk home and remembering how police had treated her in the past. Vanessa wasn't even sure she wanted to contact authorities about the attack. They might dismiss her as a rambling drug addict and Anthony could return to get his revenge if he heard she'd ratted him out eventually. Vanessa did manage to build up the courage to call. The police officer told her over the phone that she'd have to come to the station in person if she wanted to file a report. Vanessa hung up deciding that it was safer to forget anything that happened. Everywhere she went she could feel Anthony's hot breath on her back. She worried he was just around every dark corner. Though Anthony didn't face consequences for the assault. He still kicked himself. After leading. Vanessa. Ago He was terrified. The police would show up any minute. His fears caused him to isolate himself even further and he didn't even venture out to scavenge for scrap metal in the subsequent but as always. Anthony's urged to kill eventually overpowered his fear of getting caught in October. He finally left his home once again out for blood when we return Anthony. His fourth victim parkas listeners. I have some big news regarding the critically acclaimed series famous fates. Although season one has ended the franchise still lives on starting may thirteenth. The famous fate speed will feature season two titled Falls From Grace Available. Only on spotify joined Carter and I as we turn to examine some of the most accomplished and controversial people to ever live. You'll discover what drove these history makers to be so successful in their respective fields and what led to their ultimate disgrace available for free and only on spotify falls from grace will release two episodes a week over twelve weeks each focusing on the fame and shame of a notable figure from OJ Simpson and Marie Antoinette. To Howard Hughes and Elizabeth homes. You'll dive into a rich variety of impactful stories from every aspect of history there shocking drama disturbing details and all the indepth research that you've come to expect from us and most importantly these episodes are all free and only available on spotify. Famous fates falls from grace is a podcast original starting may thirteenth. Two new episodes released every Wednesday. Listen free and only on spotify now back to the story by Tober of two thousand eight forty nine year old anthony so well had killed three women and sexually assaulted many others. He left the bodies of his murder victims to rot among the garbage piled up in his house but no matter how many he killed. It was never enough that month. He hit the streets of Cleveland. Ohio once again to search for his next victim this time his target was Michelle Mason. We don't know exactly how Anthony Lured Michele to his home but it was likely with promise of drugs. She had a history of illness and addiction. She had just begun her recovery in the fall of two thousand eight but her bright prospects were cut short by meeting with Anthony so well in the days following her disappearance. Michelle's family tried and failed to get police to intervene left with few options. They took matters into their own hands. Hanging missing person posters around the neighborhood desperate to find anyone who had knowledge of Michelle's whereabouts. Unfortunately they were too late evidence later indicated that by this time Anthony had already strangled Michelle Mason and left her body to rot in his home. The law with this other victims. Michelle was the fourth woman to go missing and Anthony's neighborhood over the previous eighteen months. There was a serial killer on the loose but no one would acknowledge it only a month later in November of two thousand eight. Anthony once again went hunting this time. He seized fifty two year. Old Tonia Carmichael as she roamed the streets looking for drugs just like the others. Anthony was able to lure the woman into his home at strangle her. Possibly using extension cord Anthony started to believe he was bullet proof he beamed as he wandered the halls of his crumbling house rife with decay and desolation to him it was a glorious monument to his dominance and depravity the feeling of power lead. Anthony to grow even more reckless. He believed he could do whatever he wanted and would no longer bother charming victims. If they didn't immediately seem interested he'd simply take what he wanted flush with confidence. Anthony step outside his home. In December of two thousand eight with his head held high he returned to the bus. Stop down the street and approached a middle aged woman. Waiting on the bench Gladys Wade Gladys site ethnic suspiciously as. He sat next to her when he asked her if she wanted to come over and drink at his home. She declined the offer. Something about Anthony rubbed her the wrong way gladys could tell her refusal irritated anthony but he silently turned and started to walk away at first then after noticing that the streets were empty aside from the two of them. Anthony whipped back around and lunged at her in a single swift movement. He put gladys in a chokehold. Then he dragged her back to his house as she screamed and struggled to fight him off gladys was unconscious by the time. Anthony got her back to his house as she came to gladys realized what had happened and staggered to her feet when she screamed for help. Anthony emerged from the darkness and rushed over to silence her but this time when he lunch to choke her gladys was prepared. She fought back at the two crashed backward through a glass door in the struggle as anthony rolled on top of her gladys Claude wildly at his face. He recoiled allowing gladys to jump up at escape. Gladys's I thought was to get somewhere public. And she ran as fast as she could to the pizza shop down the street but when she begged someone to call the police for her the store owner told her to leave gladys fled in terror when she saw anthony approaching the door the owner new anthony and believed him when he claimed that gladys had stolen money from him. Luckily while he was trying to mitigate the damage in the restaurant gladys ran down the street and found a couple of police officers sitting in their car. She hurriedly told them what had happened and they took her back to the station later. Authorities showed up at Anthony's house to arrest him afraid they would poke around his house if he fled. Anthony came outside willingly still in the same bloody clothes he'd been wearing when gladys fought him off. Anthony stuck to his story about gladys robbing him after a few hours. The police decided that there wasn't enough evidence to support Gladys's claims because she'd been charged with drug possession before they considered her an unreliable witness and Anthony walked free once again. The near Miss Intoxicated Anthony. He felt sure than ever that he could get away with whatever he wanted so only a few weeks later he struck again this time. He claimed the life of a woman named Kim Smith not much is known about the days leading up to her disappearance but after her murder anthony tighter up with a cloth and buried her in his backyard wrapped in plastic bags. Something about Kim's murder must have sated Anthony for the rest of the first few months of two thousand nine. He refrained from killing. He even reconnected with a few old friends inviting them over to smoke with him. Of course he can find them to the first floor as the corpses on the upper floors and in the basement continued to decompose as the weeks passed however at then he eventually left alone. Most of his friends stopped coming around even when he tempted them with drugs. They likely just couldn't tolerate being Anthony's home anymore. The smell was getting more revolting by the day. But in April of two thousand nine he did manage to convince one woman Imelda Hunter to join him. She'd smoked him before and one evening in the middle of the month. She perhaps decided that a fix was worth enduring a few hours in the dilapidated house. It was a mistake as soon as he got a Melda alone. Anthony used her purse to strangle her. He buried her body in a shallow grave. It has backyard. The kill had satisfied his need for violence. But it meant that Anthony had lost one of his few sources of human contact. So it must have felt like a godsend when an old friend. Tanya dos reached out to anthony only days later years before Tanya had been in a relationship with Anthony but he hadn't seen her much since he dated Laurie on April twenty. First Anthony Eagerly invited Tanya to come over to his home she was shocked. What a very different man from one. She remembered answered his door. Anthony looked sickly and had a slightly glazed over look in his eyes. Despite his unsettling appearance he greeted Tanya warmly. An usher in the house the to talked for a while and caught up but as soon as he thought Tanya had let her guard down he sprang towards her and put her in a chokehold. He explained that if she wanted to live. She'd have to do exactly as he said. Then he commanded her to take off her clothes and get into bed next to him. She did as he demanded and lay in fear by his side for the rest of the night. He soon drifted off to sleep without sexually assaulting her the next morning anthony casually arose and grabbed a beer. He offered Tanya drink but she cautiously declined sending she had to get back to her daughter. Anthony shrugged and let her downstairs. As if nothing strange had happened the previous night Tanya rushed out of Anthony's house and made it back to her friend. Nancy cobs house. Nancy also new anthony but when Tony told her what happened. She dismissed the incident as she didn't think Anthony was violent and assumed he'd been too high to know what he was doing at the time. In fact only a few days later Nancy reached out to anthony herself for some drugs. He welcomed her over but unlike Tanya he had no intention of letting her leave once she was inside. Anthony used a tube sock to strangle her. He wrapped Nancy's body in plastic bags rolled her up in a discarded comforter and cramped her corpse into his front room. No with seven corpses either stashed in his house or buried in his yard. The summer of two thousand nine made a sickening miasma around Anthony's house worse than ever but no matter how bad things got no one looked too closely at him and so anthony just kept killing he abducted recovering addict to Leyshon Fortson in June of two thousand nine. He strangled her like the others and left her body on the floor next to Nancy. Cobs only days later. Anthony used a belt to choke forty eight year old Janice web to death. He hid her body in the basement with the belt still around her neck. Even though by that Anthony murdered several close friends and survivors visit tax. Had Worn police that he was homicide. It'll authority still failed to act. Anthony would make them regret it that same summer. He attacked a woman named Diane Turner and left her dead on the floor of his home on July. Second Police noted Diane's disappearance when she didn't show up for a probation hearing but they never suspected foul play like so many others. Her vanishing was explain. No way the more he murdered the more intense Anthony's bloodlust became he even lost count of the number of bodies rotting inside his home with nothing but violence in mind and then he continued to stalk the streets of his neighborhood looking for his next opportunity on September. Twenty second two thousand nine. A woman named Tundra billips approached Anthony as he exited the LIQUOR STORE. Latonya had smoked him before and asked if she could come over to grab a beer. He gladly letter inside his home. Cautioning her to stay on the second floor as the third was too dirty as Anthony puttered around the living room. Letendre casually mentioned anthony that she'd heard some local Women Gossiping About Him. They were talking about his previous arrests for sexual assault. Anthony didn't respond with words instead. He swung around and slams his fist into Latinas face as she went down. Anthony wrapped in extension cord around her neck. The last thing she saw before she blacked out was a wild unhinged. Look in Anthony's is the Tundra woke up sometime later. She didn't know how long she'd been unconscious but knew immediately that she'd been raped. She slowly shook herself out of her days and saw Anthony looking down on her from a chair. A short distance away. He looked pensive. Anthony explained to Letendre that he was going to have to kill her. He couldn't let her go because she would tell someone what happened. He claimed that he wanted to kill himself as well saying he was going through a lot of things. Letendre play dumb exactly as Vanessa. Gay had nearly a year earlier. She told Anthony that she didn't believe anything had happened and that she had nothing to report to police. Anthony nodded slowly as she talked. Then in. A show of nonchalance Told Anthony that she was tired and closer is she pretended to sleep for the rest of the night terrified that Anthony would see through her lie and kill her the next morning. Anthony let her go. Let Thunder rushed as fast as she could to a hospital for a rape kit. Vanessa and the Tundra had both used similar tactics to Talk Anthony. Down but the reason he let them both go may have been more complex. According to criminologist Eric Beauregard most sex offenders have a preferred type of victim but they will often attack anyone they feel as vulnerable prioritizing an easy target over an ideal one. This means. It's possible that though. Anthony seized the opportunity to sexually assault both Vanessa and letendre. They didn't meet his preferred criteria for murder victims as Anthony told the Tundra. He didn't WanNa kill her but he felt had to for his own safety when she convinced him that she wouldn't alert police about the sexual assault. He felt safe letting her go. Luckily lattanzio notified authorities about the attack as soon as possible. Though it took several weeks police eventually reached out after. Latonya 's report was filed. They were finally building a case against Anthony so well unfortunately while the gears were in motion. They didn't turn quickly enough to stop Anthony now. Fifty years old from continuing his killing spree on the morning of October twentieth. He returned to his usual hunting ground at the nearby bus. Stop there he struck up a conversation with SEAN. Morris shown did no anthony. Well that had heard that he was generous with his drugs. She asked if he'd be willing to share some crack with her with a smile. Anthony Lead Sean up to his second floor and the two wild the morning away smoking and chatting around noon. Anthony walked her out of the House. She went back to the bus stop. But as the bus approached Sean realize that she left her? I D at Anthony's it was a fatal mistake. She hurried back to Anthony's home. Who surprised and delighted to see her. He'd shown restraint by letting her go before but now that she returned he felt a swell of violent desire. He ushered her inside to look for her wallet but only let her get halfway up the stairs before wrapping his hands around her neck. He dragged Sean up the stairs to his bedroom on the third floor and sexually assaulted her afterward when he got up for a moment. Sean seize the chance to escape. Sean saw that a window facing an alleyway in the side of the house was open. She ran toward did pushed out the screen and looked out. The ground was a dizzying distance. Away but she had no other choice clambered out and attempted to slowly lower herself down. Anthony Leapt to the window and tried to Yank back inside as he pulled. She struggled against him suddenly. Andy Anthony Yanked his hands away when he did. Sean Lost Her grip. She slipped and fell two stories in a moment at he tries to explain to bystanders. Why naked woman fell out of his window? Now back to the story By the fall of two thousand nine fifty year old Anthony so well had strangled eleven women that October. He tried to claim his twelfth victim. Sean Morris but after Anthony Sexually assaulted her. Sean attempted to flee and ended up falling out of his third floor window into the alley below. Anthony watched from above as sean crashed to the pavement. He hoped that the fall had killed her. He figured he could drag body back inside the house relatively easily as long as he acted fast but he wasn't the only one with a view of the alley. The owner of a store across the street was serving a customer. When he saw sean plunged two stories he ran outside to see what had happened. He found Sean Alive. But in terrible shape. She had broken both hands eight of her ribs and fractured her skull. The owner hurriedly called an ambulance says a small crowd gathered around. Sean Anthony Sprinted through the House and down to the street still naked himself. He told the gathering people that he and Sean were having sex when she had accidentally fallen out the window. Then he grabbed sean roughly off the ground and tried to carry her inside but the store owner stopped him insisting that the ambulance was on its way with little choice. Anthony let go of. Sean backed off. The ambulance arrived soon afterward and rushed her to the hospital and she awoke hours later confused but thankful to be alive when she asked the nurse if she could call her husband the woman happily responded that her husband was right outside. He'd even ridden in the ambulance with her. It took a second for Sean to realize what was going on any trick the EMT's into believing that they were married. He didn't exactly a plan going forward but he wanted to get to sean before the police did. Despite his efforts the police interviewed Sean Before. He got a chance to speak to her but even just knowing he was out. There seemed enough to affect. Sean she worried what he might do if she told the truth and the police didn't believe her. The effect of physical intimidation can be powerful. Even from a distance author Jennifer lassen rights feeling. Intimidated typically boils down to a sense that the person you're interacting with is more powerful than you one way we react to these power. Differences is by deferring to people in higher positions. Trying to please them and do what they say. Sean knew that Anthony was waiting just outside the door when she spoke to authorities like many in Anthony's neighborhood with a history of drug abuse. She didn't have much trust in the police but she did believe that Anthony would make her pay if she implicated him in a panic. Sean lied to the officers questioning her. She told them that she and Anthony were partying together when she accidentally fell out of the window when police questioned anthony against all odds he told a story that was similar to. Shawn's since Sean didn't allege any wrongdoing police wade the matter away for the moment but privately many detectives new Anthony was guilty. They were still in the midst of investigating. The claims of LETENDRE BILLIPS. A previous victim. That had survived. Anthony's assault nine days after the incident with Sean Morris Cleveland. Police gathered enough information to arrest Anthony. For sexually assaulting letendre a leftover twenty-ninth two thousand nine. Police stormed his home by coincidence. Anthony was out walking when they came by to arrest him so police forced their way inside there. They found a nightmare worse than they could have ever imagined. Struggling not to gag from the stench police moved to the third floor. Searching for Anthony. At one point they burst through a door demanding figure inside. Put their hands up. It took them a second to realize they were yelling. At a dead decaying body with the creeping horror. They realized they weren't just searching for a rapist. They had stumbled upon a mass grave. Meanwhile Anthony's neighbors found him while he was out walking to tell him they were police searching his home. Anthony knew right then that it was all over. He met up with his half sister Tricia and told her cryptically that everything she was about to hear was true with that he disappeared. Anthony remained at large the following day when police conducted a full search of his home and excavated his backyard. What they discovered was chilling bodies. Were in the basement on the third floor and buried in the backyard. Investigators had to wear masks to prevent themselves from reaching as they navigated heaps of sickening rot. The scale of the findings prompted police to offer financial reward for any information about Anthony's whereabouts. Forty eight hours later on Halloween night. A man found Anthony walking down the street and turned him over to police anthony so well was eventually found. Guilty of eighty two counts of murder rape and kidnapping. He said little after his conviction only raising his cuffed hands as if it was some kind of triumph if anthony did feel proud of what he did. It likely didn't last for long. After years of preying on the vulnerable members of society. He finally face the consequences of his actions. The jury sentenced him to death. Anthony so well is currently being held at chillicothe a correctional institution in Ohio. Though the cells on death row are likely far from spotless. One can only assume they're still much cleaner that he would like. Thanks again for tuning into serial killers. We'll be back next week with another episode for more information on Anthony so well amongst the many sources we used we found. Nobody's women by Steve Miller extremely helpful to our research. You can find more episodes of serial killers and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only spotify already. Have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy. All of your favorite podcast originals. Like serial killers for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream serial killers on spotify. Just open the APP and type serial killers in the search bar and don't forget to follow us on facebook and instagram. At podcast and twitter at Parkas network will see you next time. Have a killer week. Serial killers was created by Max Cutler. And is a podcast. Original executive producers include Max and Ron Cutler sound designed by Brian Gulab with production assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Aaron Larson. 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Diazepam Pharmacology

Real Life Pharmacology - Pharmacology Education for Health Care Professionals

00:00 sec | 8 months ago

Diazepam Pharmacology

"Hello welcome back to the real life pharmacology. Podcast I'm your host Eric. Christianson thank you all so much for listening today to track me down. His best. Probably on the link to in Air Christianson Farm D. B. C. GP CPS real-life Pharmacology dot com definitely. Go subscribe and get a free thirty one page. Pdf great little study guide on the top two hundred drugs for students young healthcare professionals where I lay out the most important clinical pearls that you're gonNA see likely on your pharmacology and board exams as well as in real life so go check that out for sure. Let's get into the drug of the day Today I'm going to cover die as a PAM which is a Benzodiazepine The brand name of this medication is Valium. And from a mechanism of action standpoint this drug binds benzodiazepine receptors. That's real original how they named those receptors those receptors located in neurons and ultimately that `binding that action can lead to an increase in the effects of Gabba. Now what's Gab? Gabon's in inhibitory neurotransmitter which can alter flow of chloride ions to and from the cells and this can result in hyper polarization and that can ultimately lead to a reduction in basically sowell excitability so end result reduced excitability of cells? So we don't have action potentials and basically transmission of signals Through neurons cross neurons in the brain is most likely where this is going to have an impact so thinking about that. We're trying to basically slow people down reduce excitability at home the CNS down central nervous system. Down this type of drug is going to be used in seizures to treat an active seizure for example All so in situations like anxiety I've seen it used for muscle spasms and that type of thing as well Rarely Alcohol withdrawal is also another situation. Where we definitely have seen Benza. Days pins used I would never recommend a daisy pam for sleep but certainly it can be a sedative as well there okay. So let's talk about dosage forms for a because as a pam is Kinda unique in that it has numerous different dosage forms. The three I've probably seen in clinical practice most often Our oral of course So the drug is is readily bioavailable as an oral agent. There is also a rectal gel called Diet that that can be utilized in the setting of a patient having an acute seizure and then of course we have injection as well. So you know Ivy Administration I am administration but I will say four Intramuscular I M administration generally. We're GONNA want to avoid this in a patient who has an act of seizure K. There's inconsistent absorption which may obviously delay the onset of that drug working can kinda delay peak concentrations of the drug So that could obviously be a really really big negative with. Im Days Pam compared to giving that drug. Iv So very very important To think about those dosage forms when and wear one might be advantageous versus than other. Obviously we're not going to give a DIS doubt. The brand name for the rectal Gel were not going to give that for Anxiety acute anxiety likely. Okay. We're going to reserve that for seizures The oral formulation. That's going to be more so used in the setting of chronic ongoing if that patient needs and benefits and it's appropriate to use a days pam in that patient so think about those dosage forms You know pluses and minuses to each in how we might use them. Actually in clinical practice adverse effect profile with Diana Pam the easiest way I remember it and it's pretty close in line with that is alcohol in a pill so confusion It's a sedative so it's sedating slurred speech falls. You know can impair driving a motor vehicle or whatever other piece of equipment. You WanNa talk about So definitely can be pretty problematic Adverse effects and particularly maybe more so energy metric patient population. Where we're worried about falls and fractures and things of that nature because of that adverse effect profile days pam is actually listed in the beers criteria Which is a you. Know a list of medications to generally avoid in geriatric patients. Now there's another reason At least in my mind why Diana Pam shows up On the Beers list The adverse effect profile is not very good for geriatric patients first and foremost But the second important point involves pharmacokinetics so as we age Our Body tends not to metabolize drugs very well. And as a PAM definitely fits the bill for an example of this So I did learn a rule of thumb at one point and you know the accuracy of this is I. It can certainly vary based upon drug interactions and other things going on with the patient but half-life of twenty hours at When a patient is twenty years old and as you age you can approximate that. The half life is going to Add an extra hour forever year so in an eighty year. Old You can. Maybe estimate that that half-life ballpark might be around eighty hours again. liver function Enzymatic processes can alter at significantly from patient patient but I think it helps give you a mindset of maybe what was an appropriate dose in a thirty five year. Old Patient would be very inappropriate In an eighty five year old patient okay. So you know that rule of thumb and you can think of think of it from a clinical perspective in being very very cautious with using days a pam as our patients get older very very important. Do that One other thing I want you to think about Is Withdrawal Syndrome. So withdrawal symptoms can certainly happen with abrupt discontinuation and in my practice. Most of the patients on as a Pam that I've seen they have been on it for years and years and years and years and if we were to ever try to take them off that medication we certainly would never want to do it. Abruptly go from you know their current does two to nothing so it's important to remember That we're going to have a have to do a thoughtful Slow taper down of that medication if they've been on it for a significant amount of time and I would say most most I've seen suggested maybe ten to twenty percent he every couple of weeks As far as a plan taper now that can vary again from patient to patient. Some patients may WANNA be more aggressive other patients May encounter significant withdrawal symptoms Even at at very modest reductions But that's certainly something. I've that Ballpark is something. I've seen Utilized in clinical practice before one. Last thing I wanted to mention that can make days of him very complicated. And maybe more. So even in geriatric patients Involves the pathway. That this drug is broken down Days a PAM has many many active metabolites and what that means is an enzyme. So let's say example CYP three or four. It's also impacted by CYP two. C Nineteen an enzyme converts Diana Pam into another compound in its process to eventually be broken down and eliminated well many of those intermediate breakdown products can still have active action in the body. So it still going to have similar facts to what the parent drug days. Pam has even after it's been altered in converted By some of these enzymes so it's very very important to remember and can make the kinetics of when Symptoms were resolve or when the drug is when the drug side effects will wear off. That can make that very very complicated in geriatric patients so patients can sometimes get slammed with adverse effects as the drug kind of accumulates and tries to to get to steady state so again another example why we need to be very very cautious If we're starting if we're increasing a drug days pam in our geriatric patient population so I mentioned a couple enzymes. And when we get back from the break I'm GonNa talk about Drug interactions that may impact those enzymes. If you're in the market for Pharmacists Board certification study material like CPS GERIATRICS AMATORI CARE BCM TM. Definitely go check out met at one and one dot com slash store as we get into the. Drug Interactions Section. Here also want to remind you of recently had a new release of drug interaction book and you can go find all these links admitted one zero one dot com slash store so definitely go check out support the sponsor get metted one one dot com slash store so finishing up on drug interactions The first thing I wanNA know is there is a boxed warning with the use of Benzodiazepines and also obviously as a pound when used in combinations with opioids. Okay so we run an increased risk of excessive sedation obviously overdose respiratory depression and those type of symptoms which can ultimately lead to a comatose type situation and ultimately death. If we're giving too high of a dose in combination with opiates so got to be really really careful With utilizing those agents together and ultimately probably avoid if we can at all possible another important thing to think about and just important point to remember because I have seen duplicate benzodiazepines being utilized We shouldn't be using duplicate. Bentos if at all possible together Also drugs like Zoll put down for example have very similar effects to Benzodiazepines in general definitely. Avoid Those types of combinations they can really have additive effects and increase greatly increased the risk of of adverse drug reactions. Now let's talk about those enzymes so cyp two C as well as CYP. Three a four are enzymes that are going to impact the breakdown of Diazepam. So if we have a CYP two C nineteen inhibitor Classic example there is like fluconazole this drug can block that breakdown of Diana Pam and potentially extend the half-life of the drug in increased concentrations. Because it's not bring being broken down as quickly if we're blocking that enzyme. Same THING WITH CYP. Three a four inhibitor. So grapefruit juice Clarence Rome Isan dilettantism. Those drugs can all have some inhibitory action on the enzyme. Cyp Three or four and this can prevent the breakdown of Diana Pam Increasing concentrations increasing likelihood of toxicity those adverse effects like sedation and confusion and false with our patients. And most of the time. It's in geriatric patients because they're the crew of patients who are on multiple multiple medications and that can be Certainly problematic in increase that risk for drug interactions. So I think that's going to wrap up the podcast for today. 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Real Talk - Of Lockdowns And Growing The Hell Up!

Real Talk with Smriti Notani

00:00 sec | 5 months ago

Real Talk - Of Lockdowns And Growing The Hell Up!

"Hub hopper originals. Everyone this is Marie de and you're listening to real talk quits. Medina Danny Popo written with other really precarious point dime with what with a global pandemic and quarantine and a lockdown? It's literally unprecedented. We have never experienced anything like that before in our lifetimes balance and I don't think a I mean even generations before them have so before they even get started. I just wanted to that. If you want to listen to something lighter I have been making A lot of content regarding the lockdown my previous episode was on a hundred ideas for things you can do during this lockdown so you may want to check that out the one before that was on creativity how you can harness it during this lockdown but these DOPP topic is a little different. Because it's a little more in the realm of may be a personal ruled a little philosophical spiritual. I like these thoughts that come to me pretty often these days. I get boosts of Inspiration Ulta get Bush Surfing Zaidi and I know that this pretty common like a lot of us have a lot of. Todd's right now but the idea of this episode was to explore some these teams and also make sure that we talk about the things that are actually going to hate us You know we all talk about self love but sometimes self love has to be tough love and right. Now we've got to stop bullshitting ourselves on certain things. The lockdown will be over soon early though but the idea is to use this experience to come out stronger. Wiesel camel don't date so that's the idea of this episode in general. I should warn you that I'm quite bought him out and I say things as they come to my mind. I should also warn you that it always obviously patrols not going to mince words. Let me preface a desire episode by saying that You know I'm I'm sorry if any of you are really struggling right now I know this is not an easy time for a lot of people and nor disrespect is meant from my end when I talk about the things that I do talk about if you are going through a particularly challenging die my heart goes out to you. My prayers are with you I'm not trying to put anybody down. The idea like I said is to just grow from this and toughen up an Oscar says so important questions So yeah with that being said. Let's get into the episode so I live in Bombay. Which as you newest quintessentially agility fast paced city right You don't born and bred. Do I I feel like I have two distinct parts of my personality. One is definitely the Bombay Hustle which is the great Indian. Joe God and also being really g you know. Sort of impatient. And Julie Being Hyper and I definitely have that type to me. You know like the whole like I need. I need to discuss this now. I need to get done with this. I HAVE A to do list and you know that that side of me and then I think that. Have the at this site of me. Which is the right though. The the one who needs to take it slow which is also why. I'm so terribly nocturnal and I love my nighttime. I love the fact that does. There's no to disturb me at that point. And you know what no one's rushing me if I wanted pink slowly. I can't think slowly if I WANNA write slowly. I can write slowly founded research something before any to it. I have the time to do that. So obviously this episode is not only about what what is what happens in my life but The reason the reason I'm starting with this is that I think wintertime right now where we are forced to slow down and as I observe it. A lot of people are uncomfortable with this. Okay For me personally. I've been working from home for the last couple of yours. So you do not allow this changed also in my life in my routine in that sense I know that for people who are so dependent on on their own schedules and their own routines. It's hard to talk to like. Just be an kind of aimless at home and work from home and I know that that is not something to be enjoyed by own having said that and you might disagree with MobiNil but is slowing down or alone time or solitude. Something scary do you like. Is it something that you why heating and if so why why are YOU HEATING UTAH? One thing that I feel strongly about life is that we may pegged on a lot of things me. It may become about our work me become about. Our family may become about life partners or are robe love inches so whatever we make it about but at the end of the day isn't don't we have to go to sleep alone without thoughts like are you back much the rigmarole of dying yourself out to a point that if you're left alone with your thoughts before sleeping that actually is an uncomfortable sensation. So it's just I feel like the Pointing out that solitude is not the worst thing and if it is the worst thing you then to probe yourself into ask yourself that why. Why is that the worst thing for me? I mean not enough can be said about enjoying your company like it is very important in life to yourself like if you met you would you like you? I think that's a very relevant question because seriously like if you don't like yourself then it impacts all your relationships it impacts just every interaction that you have actually you know imacs just the way you conduct yourself the way you dress the way you what you think what you speak every part of you is impacted by this one thing so if you genuinely like you then some alone time should not be the worst thing again. I. I did give the disclaimer right in the beginning. That of course it's challenging if you're absolutely alone all through the lockdown so this is not about that but I know people who are you know surrounded by family and everything and still feeling a bit You know getting a little annoyed by just this extra alone. Dime some more motive Talking to those people Why is it bothering you? So much Wise this longtime bothering you so much. I'm not saying maybe you have an answer to that question. And maybe the answer is a very Valid one but It's just a taught that I want you to ponder on. You know because when's lockdown is over and when we're on the other side Maybe that is made it instant holding onto a bit of alone time because if you don't allow yourself to stop and wonder about the important things in life then who I really like. You're just you know it's just as an actor you stand right so do you like you. What can you change to like you? Can you start enjoying your alone time? Maybe you need to explore ways to do that It's just you know it's just something I wanted to bring up I. It's not that I have a concrete on so for you because obviously I don't know where your thoughts Leading you right now. Maybe maybe the person you the person listening is like you know what I don't need Joe. I love my alone time. Maybe I don't know and I'd love that for you personally. I like my loan. And I'd like to keep it that we and when we're out of this lockdown and redone this is something I'm definitely holding onto the next thing that I want to talk about is where are you on the acceptance scale like. Have you found yourself? But Bet truly cribbing about why people are going live on instagram or via people making dogs. Eliah people pretending they're chefs now. Is that bothering you a lot? Because I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that's bullshit you should matter to you. How people are coping like you need to understand. It's really tough time out there in this world and everyone's doing the best. They can to stay in and stay afloat and other agenda. Just a general thing is that we have no idea what is going on. In people's homes we just see a projected image nowadays on Social Media. And that's that becomes a reality. We have no idea like I know for the fact that I am because I have a history of having had a. I mean I've had before and things like that and I've always had shit immunity. I come on the highest category so for example. I've had to be extra paranoid this quarantine and I nord. That's something that maybe even my closest friends have not taken into account or they don't remember that which is fine. Which is okay but my ting is that. It's to prove a point to you that people don't really know from the outside from the outside. I'm just creating content. Making podcasts chilling. Just making the most of it But that's the best I can do. I can't I don't WanNa go crying to everything he what I'm so highest. This is so stressful. That stresses for me to lose sleep over and that's that so I mean I'm just I'm just sharing perspective that you have no idea how this is impacting be put and that's like an underlying. That should always be with you so yes it shouldn't Really fucking bother you. What people are doing how they're coping you? I went to live on my instagram for like two weeks street. Okay I- branded it. I called the night shift and I was just going live getting on board to like doing it with guests like a proper talk show and integral lauder for at Fort and but I did it in a in a nice way. I'm real happy with how that activity don't doubt Spoke about some amusing important things with some amazing people. Let me just put it like that and I just you know you get a sense when people feel like why. Why the hell are you going live every day on? Why you doing this or tension-seeking and my point to you is. I'm using it in the best way possible. Do you know probably share with my orden's some amusing minds that I have access to. So what the Hell is anybody's bugged? I'm not anyone given told me anything. You know what I'd call it out and Adele. Someone told me something but you also get a sense of what people are thinking. Right My thing to you is why why like do not sit and be a Sowell. Bush do not sit and just judge people for how they're coping. Everyone's got their own way. And even if that is absolute unproductively like maybe there someone in your life and you're judging them for being really sluggish and unproductive but did allowed. You did allowed and this all ties in with it mental health. And how it still to this day. It's like literally a joke in our country because we may share and reshare all sorts of support of things on social media. But the truth is we don't even necking nuys it when it's own homes enough families amongst friends. We don't even recognize it so honestly if someone's being deadly unproductive around you and you son what the hell they're doing with their lives you know I just want to point it out and maybe a mental health issue so you want to be gentle and you may want to look into that but yeah ingende except that everyone has their own. We'd go and You know I was reading this interesting article and I also discussed this with a mental health professionals on one of these lives that I did. But what we're going to right now it's literally can be compared to stages of grief By that I mean like everything. The feeling now in joining this global pandemic can be compared to you know grief and how one goes through grief again. Refer something I've talked about in podcast before you should know that I've had a tryst with grief and that do not too long ago so I can testify that this is true A lot of what? We're going to right now. Denial lobby it You know just absolute hopelessness at all. It's this is how grief feels guys saw I mean it's it's no joke and none of us will feel what the other person is feeling at the same time right so I definitely went through this like in the beginning. I felt super productive like all my Gordon. I can win this World War and I think I went like what two three weeks like that and then it died down and now I'm feeling diode to do the same tasks of feeling bit listless at times so I didn't experience what everyone else experienced like. Maybe I think most people flaws got a little overburdened. Diode and then now difficult better and it's gone the other way for me so I mean I'm just. I'm not sharing the stuff for sympathy offer. You do kind of Opo But his just like I want you to know that not. Everybody will have the same trajectory. That's all so Yeah Acceptance Honestly. It's a good time to grow up and to accept that everyone's going to deal with this their own we at their own pace and does just something that makes it sold that we have to get on board with we just have to. There's like that's not always about it another thing that we honestly should be doing right now. is focusing on our wounds shit and by that. I mean like it's all well and good to spend the entire day scrolling Graham checking out content creators Bidding some applauding the others. But what is up in our own. Lives like what is happening. What does that game plan? What does the future look like? Not a little scary to go there. But I'm Saudi again to be the president of brigadier but does lockdown will end at some point right. I think it's a good time to go back to the drawing board. Kind of we. You know if you meet a vision board at the beginning of this year it maybe time to revisit that see what you want to add to it subtract from it. I'm not saying you have to. I'm singing. It might be a good time to look at the oil game plan again. It makes sense and it all to keep you occupied when you focus on your own shit like like I said I mean if it's something that if creating content is important to me right now than I've got to drown out the voices and do that so identify whatever that looks like to you and just do it. I think that another important thing to think about right now is odd relationships so I know this is tricky. But it's a good time to just evaluate because we don't get to do that in the daily Vignal so just evaluate. Like why are I mean? Do know who your real ones are like. Do you know where your friends are. You know whether your relationship is is a solid one. I know that some people with their partners in the lockdown on some people on. So if you're not with your partner House this time been on you know for the two of you like are you sick of your person. Just being I don't know just not being good at communication. I Dunno whatever it is I feel like this is Azriel as life gets okay. A virus that has put a put of S- panel in the works of the entire world like sometimes I can't even I. It definitely seems. Like I'm watching some apocalyptic goal shore movie. Your is it's crazy like it's an episode of black middle. That's what it is but Yami I think it's a good time to think about. Way Watt where we all not in our relationships right like for me. I think it's come to light that there are certain friends who I do not probably see all the time but I need to have them in my life. I need to keep talking to them. I need to know what they're up do. I need to stay in touch. I mean that's a huge realization for me and then there are the other friends who can be considered outdoor so good and Maybe it's okay if I talk to them in a few months it's absolutely fine so I think it's I tink that because we have the extra time maybe we can sit and evaluate. Who really gets to be a soccer and who really gets to be out of circle as for family relationships in that sense You know toxic relationships as a whole different topic but I just wanted to say that. I'm Saudi if you're stuck with someone who you're not happy being stuck with right now in this lockdown but at the end of the day like I said the lockdown will end. And if you feel that somebody's life really tough right now and they don't they just don't get you right now then Please know that you're noticing it right now and this is just how the person is any we. This is how the person is through the your and you me. WanNa keep your distance in some way from this person wants. This lockdown is over. You may be living in the same house. But it's about the distance that you keep in domes of how involved is this person in your life in your decisions. Can they know everything about you? Can they be as updated as you normally keep them? Maybe that's not the best idea. Maybe you they don't want what is best for you. And maybe this lockdown is the dime that you have realized that so I'm sorry this is like harketting stuff but I think that very easy to run and hide from it but sometimes you got to face it and I think that you know right now whether that phase where we've been in lockdown so long and even if it extends just assuming extent it is going to end at some point like maybe a couple of weeks later. Maybe a monthly though but it is going to end and we need to start looking at what we want life to be. Once it's done you know. So that's that's just where it's coming from not trying to rain on your parade and say hey listen. What kind of relationship said in your life but maybe time to and you'll know from within If it's something what I'm saying is resonating with you and if it's something you really want to focus on you will know from within. You won't have to second guess anything if you feel. I'm right you're going to do it after this podcast. So that's all I WANNA say about that. Another important topic. That has come up for me in. This lockdown is which area of my life needs. Help realistically I think. Everyone can relate to the fact that at least one of his life. has some lack or has something lacking I feel it's only human so does nothing to be ashamed of. I don't think she has pleased in this in dial activity that we're trying to do For me that area would be a discipline. I struggled with discipline because I'm very hardworking. But I'm not disciplined so by that I mean I've eject structure as It it's hard for me to do things at the time that they're supposed to be done. Where is I'm we'll get to work? Double the dime at another point in in the scheme of things but okay so I mean to make simple. I don't mind working all night of but I can't just I just don't WanNa wake up so I mean this is a it's a classic discipline and structure issue of for me. That's a it's a big one that also means that you know so certain domestic chores Can't happen when they need to happen. Which means I'm feeling on the domestic front right so that is my glaring glaring problem. What is that glaring problem for you? I think it's time we stop shooting ourselves and actually get to what the problem is and I don't know what area of your life it's impacting. Maybe it's impacting your work. Maybe it's impacting your personal life. It could be impacting your marriage. It could be impacting. I don't know just anything But I think definitely it's time to check which area of your life because we're going to get do like I said we're GonNa get to a phase where the lockdown is done and then what and then what right shouldn't we try and do this that. I shouldn't be trying to focus on the right on the night things I think it's another way to go about. This is Where Ed do we want to be in the next? Maybe one year two years see. Obviously this bend taught us that planning everything to the never works. A lot of US had plans for life of things that we may need to relook at right so it's not the idea is not oh my. God shed yourself because there's one thing that we've learned is that we've do a roll with the punches having said that it doesn't mean we totally disillusioned. I mean oh where. Where do we want to go like? Where where do we see ourselves like? What is it like? Do you want to be married in the next three years? Do you want to be divorced in the next three years? Do you want to be a better in the next three years? Do you want to be successful in the next two years? Do you want to buy a house in the next three years? Do you want to change your job in the next three years. Do you want to turn into an entrepreneur? The next two or three years whatever it is. I see this fucking. You're working on that plan right now. Like I'm not trying to put pressure show on the people who are not feeling like right now but those of us who can do that. Those of us who who are watching one show after the do. And we know that we can use this time battle I'm not seeing any woke. Now who's asking you to sit with a with a spreadsheet? Don't do that but I'm asking you to join new like right in your book. Would you want from life like literally? Just take a bland. Bijan Start. I believe it's called you know. Actually I'm not sure I was going to say it's called free writing or something like that but basically he doesn't have struck job. It's just a fighting like just all you're taught down on people and I think that I think that it might be time to do that. where do you see yourself? Give an US at the limit may in the next one. Yummy WE DO. Maybe three years maybe five years. You said that limit. I can't do that you I honestly can't I think I wanna see you personally. If you ask me I think I wanna see it as as a one year plan but you may WanNa see. Does it to your plan. And that's fine to my point is does gotta be some idea eight just because it's a global pandemic doesn't mean we completely let go off the idea that we also should be working towards our dreams. Dreams don't just happen baby. They need to rework done. So that's that's just the reality of what it is. And lastly I just want to tell you that at point with everything that's going on in this would stupid. Optimism might just be the until You know don't knock the optimists right. Now don't knock the people saying that. The universe has a back door. Knock the people who think that they're God will save us all because trust me. We need the OPTIMUS. If you are a cynic or if the spend Emiko has done do into a cynic fair enough not to say that you don't have a point but at the end of the perpetual bachelor. Optimism is a force multiplier so and I learned this from a friend but island the scored from a friend. I don't know whether it's originally from but I really live live at. I live destroyed in my life. I think it's it takes a lot of courage and a lot of stamina energy to be perpetually optimistic but it works it works it works because you are constantly expecting the best outcome. So you're trying to you know you're trying to just make every idiot of your life greet and you know sometimes in those in those reward moments where everything in your life seems a line than it actually seems great. You're like fuck ya like. That's my optimism talking. I knew this deal would come so We're going to have to be optimistic through this right because you know that there is excuse me you know that there is no ended. Google searches on Corona virus. The unit there is no end to the distressing news. You know that there is no end to thinking about our economy. You know that there is no end to thinking about whether we will have woke or jobs. Or what's going to happen due on monthly incomes There's no end to it. That is knowing and that's a whole my friend. I don't know who's going to get us out of if not ourselves right. So even if it makes no sense I don't know man like we've gotTA BE OPTIMISTIC. And stupidly soared eight even if it if it makes no sense like. I would like to think that wants. This is Ovo. We're going to be at this point where we appreciate life so much more. That's my stupid optimism talking. I feel like the next time I got to hug my friends. It's going to be the most special long magical hug able and our friendship is going to be at another level in life. You know Yeah that's really what I feel. I feel like I'm going to value every date night with my off. No so much more. I'M GONNA value family gatherings even even family who says You Know Stupid. Shit and kind of You know the kind of family gatherings that we tend to roller is that I might even enjoy those like you never norte. So the truth is that it's going to take It's GonNa take a resume. Do to think that wants this oval and for the first time we favorite food again and the first time we dig a walk on a street we love and the first time we do. We go shopping again and time. We just see the people we wanna see. It's GonNa be like each time is like an orgasm. Sita's so I know you didn't see that coming. I didn't think I'd say it either. But I'm just saying like Em forward ecstatic feelings. Now like just think it's GonNa be amazing because honestly thinking otherwise is not getting us anywhere. It's just making us some stress eat and stress sleep and lose sleep and God knows what else so. Yeah I mean I'm stupidly. Optimistic would invite you to be the same. Okay so I have to admit that this episode of Got Quite S- US and by that I mean that I literally said everything that's on my mind. I felt like this lockdown is forcing us all to keep it very real. Because I don't think there's any point any modern shooting each other. I love that you know even when you get on a on a zoom call with someone or whatever. House body caller. What's up and people are like dude? Today I was so screwed today. This happened today. My back voting. Today I had a Shit Day. Today had so much work to the adding eighty. I'm sorry I live for that. Shit not because Mercedes but because I love that Winnow Normal. Having the conversations were not doing the high. Have you what up your? Everything's fine on much the usual wide. We ever fucking do that. I don't get it like it is time to change that up. An louder with all being with each other and this episode in a sense was just my Linda. Damned at asking you to keep it super with yourself as well. 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Episode 51: The Legend of Zelda

No Story Is Sacred

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Episode 51: The Legend of Zelda

"Took hey hey everybody and welcome to no story is sacred if you've never listened before basically were four siblings who grew up talking about the art of storytelling now that we're adults adults were still talking about it and we're inviting you to join the conversation. I'm brendan and hey look listen. I'm pippen and i'm alex and my nerdiness never parishes. It is born anew in a cycle with no end. You know if we have played this better pep. You could have done zelda line now. It's like i don't owe well you could've you could've called one of us fairy boy from the forest so i mean she quotes are pretty cool. Happy to finally reveal the secret ho there we go good good or keeping that finish line. Even those thing i always bucking say yeah every time someone like realizes usually an obvious thing. I just started. Put my handle children go. I'm that i can find it. Reveal the secret to you. Mostly i met because i'm a bitch so oh and cat got lost in cookery. Harry forced in las woods because of that. She's now a stealth. <hes> everybody's hopes staufer's <hes> we we decided to this to kind of still record an episode because you know what we care about the craft we decided to talk about just the legend of zelda old a franchise because cat doesn't like it doesn't like a lot of video game stuff so wall the cats away the <hes> video games. I guess i mean yeah there. You go. That's cans does all right so so again. Just reiterate today. We're talking about the video game franchise the legend of zelda so spoilers bound for that series if you want specific content warnings but things we might talk about check out the show notes at new story secret dot com now for those of you who've never played the legend zelda <hes> the summary according to zelda dot com is journey to the kingdom of high rule and discover the timeless battles between good and evil and the secrets of of the all powerful. Try force and that's it. That's the game. I mean how many games well a lot of times. You're not in hi rule. There's there's times. There's no try for wait. Could you argue that you're in a highrise. That's not called jairo yet or furlong along hasn't been for a long time. Sometimes no shit so dot com means sometimes in another in another dimension shen in a dream in the afterlife in in another dimension that might be a dream or i ask ask the question even though i have. I don't think i recommend it myself because i am a fake game girl but i walked the other people play majority majority mask and that's interna and you guys have failed us feltus all that's okay. That's okay we support. You inky al so let let this kind of deep into like our personal history with it. <hes> i remember my first encounter with legend of zelda was with the n. e. s. but not one that i owned <hes>. This is a strange little bit of trivia for my own personal history the the first time ever played it was on an n._s. At genial house really our lives are weird because <hes> every year after one of the conventions engines. There'd be a party that was hosted. There and lord knows. I was like awkward kid and there was a nintendo. They're talking about her new year party boston time so yeah yeah i say year. On what do i know i would have been very tiny at the time yeah yeah yeah but yeah i just remember that's where i first encountered it and not understanding anything that was going on and honestly not having enough time to really commit to actually mastering it yeah but then the first one that i think i got to play fully at length because we we had a sega genesis at home as far as like full-on consoles was concerned. That's a story for another time. There <hes> look up mortal kombat. Ha ha how we got that yeah okay. Research listeners don't need to know the backstory yet yet admiral combat to the list no joke. Oh yeah oh it's going to happen but then i got <hes> offering time time on n. Sixty four for christmas one year and then just marathon did through the rest of that vacation. It was like one where like the entire family late was all gathered. Oh yeah i remember that. Christmas aren't what's nearby unjust marveled at the graphics yeah because the left saying she'd she'd seen <unk> pong yup so that was a christmas with grandma yeah yeah weird christmas it was i. They got to play zelda. That's only ever be would wake up so goddamn early. I feel like mario sixty four was also involved yes because i remember grandma complaining about hearing the music and her trees worth it and it is so big into her mind and whenever her like cat wakes up to hearing play play a video game in another room gives her such a nostalgia who's that she is instantly awake access do that next time. We're at her place. Yeah don't listen cat. Forget what you heard. It would be surprise. See that's that's my kind of and then after that point was hooked on the series. I went back and played through like all the other zelda games that i could like including a except for like the weird c._d._i. Ones do even play like a managed to play <hes> adventure of link as all the two yeah oh well when in college <hes> man not so lost say that that's kind of like my kind of relationship with it like hooked onto ever since no surprise my first one with a occurring as well because i was watching you play it. I think you had slot to i took sought to yeah and actually i think she played it like a year later and color her character lah quit nitwit quit aquit. I remember that much because when you name your character all the other characters call them that so yeah this great wise owl <hes> 'cause reasons would go. Hey lack quit i. I think it's the classier away of debut. Your character dumb ass yeah actually would and also because ends with analysis. Hey legend quit. The for the first one that i owned was a the wind waker <hes> <hes> for game cape right yeah all right. I got that one too for christmas. I tell you wind waco. One of those ones that i dislike to load up just to like relax for the longest time i would play a <hes> acre at least once a year and then my gamecube died hasn't been releasable on the we you. It's gonna come on. It's going to be on the switch at some point. I'm aiming for that and papy ticket. Yours was just watching us splurge. I know fuck. My first. Zelda was awkward enough time. Go figure he area and i did play all through awkward of time. It took me forever because i when when i game either i'm income you'll casual. Let's match colors gamer or i'm sort of matchy at also legend of zelda games tend to have huge fucking spiders is prominent suck that noise but i did. I did case through all of awkward time and i watch walking other people play the other ones. I think you would enjoy breath of the wild a lot. I think i would too but i worry that too big um but i thought there aren't any transponders in that one <hes> i can't remember swear to god if i play that gave in fucking she loves it there. I'll murder you. She says lovingly that's the thing with the series as a whole i think does well is just this notice exploration and i think breadth of the wild really tapped into that oh yeah and the more serious grow the expiration between each game as he <unk> new connections are made say can explore the old games in a new light. If that makes sense. You're exploring the time line where we are now. I know you guys have uncorked uncorked to the the the genie in the bottle of discussing the zelda timelines. They don't start it. That's true so after waxing philosophic about just are less king nostalgic depp good point <hes> one of the prominent the things that comes up often <hes> when discussing zelda writ large is just rectifying all these games taking place somehow in the same universe when it really had the feeling lake each one was meant to be its own fun experience in of itself breath even though it's called the legend of zelda colon whatever the tally but eventually they kind of settled lawn it more or less three timelines that <hes> i play with i remember when i first heard about the three timelines alex taddei <hes> historian the historian and he's looking at what they're they're threes timelines and i serve looked at him and then three at it goes back to austrian of god because in operative time there's time travel what kids kids kids friends. Don't let friends time travel to this is what happens. Don't do <hes> because in in upper a._m. Time there is the <hes> child link and adult link and he can travel between the two <hes> and eventually when you're adult link you save the world any travel back to your younger under self and your cut off from the timeline the idea being that you you cut off the way that time travel to that point is possible <hes> so so that time is now never going to happen in the time nine that you're in or your your time isn't going to go to that place but the thing is i play still existed alternate the timeline. There's two and i stopped. I served him as a child link adult link and then because of narrative savvy. I want oh the one where you fucking failed. Yeah 'cause 'cause you can fuck because the first time you're playing a game you dial lot yeah just because on your same file you can go back and start over theoretically. That's just the it for character. Here's a question yeah does the legend of zelda operate on the same time travel mechanics as avengers end game link link link. You must time heist. I would legit play. Let you do all of that time heist right <hes> we'll. We'll work on that lead the second part of this program here. You bet i thought through the second a we have a time heist a plan right. I think we always have time to plan. That's true the i two standard <unk> upset by the idea of that third time line my theories being that ben don't like to address the fact that sometimes they lose yum so with these three timelines. There's the timeline that sort of leads up to legend legend oh my god the time that sort of leads up to akron of time and then it branches out into three so the games that all happened before aquafina and then games that happen in one of the three timelines that makes sense yeah cool visually as as as much sense as transcribed plots that take place in branching timelines do which is again and then linked ceases if parents. It's siblings disappear in photographs. Oh no he plays that the chapman with the zora dance. I mean under the sea dance. It's called although yeah. I was trying to enchantment under zora bay automate zora's domain of you. There's something i have to tell you you about the future anyway. That's kind of what happens. In skyward sword the skyward skyward so the very first one in the chronicle yeah okay as breath wilders the failed link time line. I think it's not i don't think it's been officially a place and there's certain theories that is time nine collapse man. I have to play breath of the wild 'cause yet could there are elements from separate timelines such as osh the cattle town on square from jurors mask and well also they're being reto and zora together. <hes> yeah <hes> but you know there's there's also the main thing that none of the maps match yeah so really really what we should be. Investigating are high hi william cartographers among the heroine katagara for have mistakes. That's just the nature of maps and yet the entire. Fourth chris moves from north from south to north. I mean if you're not keeping track of which way is north and sarah thing and are also think brennan makes way more sense. Don't fuck they are who they are. Technically ambulant dettori trees kind of bringing this back into storytelling yoyo. Let's talk about the commonalities that happen mostly between all the games because again. There's always exceptions well. How do you call it. Summary thing mentions the kingdom viral the thomas sowell's between good and evil and the secret of the all powerful try force. Which would you like to investigate first. Let's talk about the tri force because it's basically tied into a bigger creation myth <hes> i do love me a good creation myth and and what do you know the beings that created the world left behind fragments of their own power. What was it happens happens and if you gather all three and i guess when you first gathered them have a pure heart. I guess although if you do it again when you don't have to do the requirement that you can have a wish be granted if they're altogether when you when you first encounter them then you need a pure heart but they're scattered and you gather them <hes> than the pure heart isn't needed or something i mean i know there's an element of corruption involved. If they've been scattered <unk> added some high denno either way when they're scattered they find those chosen by destiny a two who two-wheeled it it you had to best exemplify exempt fly there <hes> virtue the virtues who is that a you embody which <hes> which in this aimar power wisdom and courage and wisdom tends to go to the titular character zelda next week forget power tends to go to gannan organic door who tends to be the villain of the piece the aforementioned evil <hes> and courage guest to our plucky side and to hear hero like who will jump fuck in cliff nor to hit you as a sword which richie no don't knock it till you try it. If it works it works and it works good. Yes sir goes he keeps on being the guy with the iphone superpower the and this is a thing that tends not not not in all the games law of them the cycle of link going out to the world meetings elda and defeating and i think typically without help stealing gannon dorf usually with the master astor soared as well yeah yeah which is like the sword of evil's bane which is just more or less confirmation that you are indeed the hero huzzah or what narrative device should we take from the west <hes> our furry in there but that unless dress them up leap like peter pan and usually it's a sword in the stone as well which although that wouldn't be excalibur that would be called- burn right. Maybe oh gosh excalibur was from the lady in the lake. Yes that's true. People tend to forget the arthur had two swords think take a love swords her love. There's clariant as well which was like the sword of justice. Oh yeah yeah mom and dad have a short story. Sorry with the great line that perfect justice something won't running around in the world peter crossman. We'll put a link in the description. Get basically it's a hero kiro mess and i haven't mapped any of them to see if they follow the hero's journey at all below no well time maybe even then it's kind of a a week following the hero's journey because like it's not like you're resisting the call to adventure. It's like hey kid wanna. Go see the tree. Get a sword all right. Talkative time has like a give and i think interesting structure oh well in the first free levels. You'd know what you're doing going inside a living thing or at least the body of lyric thing i the great decca tree the next as long as cavern which when you look at the structure is just a dongo inside another dongo inside another dongo to down goes all the way down -ception liberal look through few who knows a supporting arches are kinda rib shaped. Oh and there's trouble troubles belly. Which is hey there joan and the way i want to point out also that one of those is alive. One of them is dead and one of the dying yup just throwing that those and then <hes> there's a when you become an adult through time travel who time travel and like the order of the temples the the first one you've visit is in the forest of your childhood and you know it's fucking filled with ghosts ghosts of your past and end also goes yes. The literal coasts yes and spiders again i was. I'm just saying that i was traumatized. Uh and is letting go of is linked letting go of his childhood and of childish things i mean which is saddened. Starring what happens at the end fucking tragic indeed but next next is the fire temple and the water temple and you know what those are those are purification rituals purification by fire and purification and by water her <unk> who does do purification that is how you forge metal ah he's saying that the real master sorta french-made along the way yes and then you journey into the land of the dead which is like inside the shadow temple which is just like classic hero era like heroes journey he stuff and in the aleki insomnia for boots the let let them and also like oh come modern and shit like that yeah the affects the feather boots lens of truth right <hes> in the child's timely and journeys into the underworld lead to true site yeah and one of the weird or fucking bosses giant into capita body the alternate this year that i realized that <hes> <hes> ongo bongo the reason that his head handsome are so prominent was because he didn't have a fucking head at all and that's what he was ramming at you this kissed headless neck and after you gain true site what is the final temple visit the spirit temple and it is is is a filled with mirrors and is just filled with duality and you know were located in the desert gender serves homeland and so that is an examination of link at <unk> dorf comparing. The two what i'm getting from this is a- all green of time is the best one in everyone can fight us <hes> wow how awkward of time is the one. I can understand that and everyone can fight me mentors mask. I'm saying i'm saying is i'm an english major and i can improve it also a lot of thought aw put into all of these games yeah and that level of analysis can be put into any one of them. Oh yeah one of my favorite favorite bit of the fan analysis is a a majority of us on a bye bye bye guy called oda hainan. Dan compares the stone tower from a a majority mask to the tower of babel and looking at the downfall of the kingdom him of a connor and it was brought about by an arrogance and disrespect of the of the gods and all that and it's great it'll it'll be linked since big. Don't don't fuck around with the god. This is also what i'm getting from this yeah. Actually you know the the gods themselves in this universe don't really seem to do much aside from having created the universe and then just left ultimate power just lying around. I mean to be fair. Ultimate powers just lying around but we hear stories of how it happened. Yeah i would like to point out that this is the legend end of soda which implies a sort of ambiguity and ambiguity. I was gonna say oral tradition <hes> though the novelty run down by this point and then leg was assaulted by chickens yes but stories on stories stories change so so fuck doc process going on and that's the reason that the maps don't match boom a at a goddess. Those were actually a a highly advanced precursor race. I think god's is were just another form of links again <unk>. I only just thought of that. I have no proof p he alternate time heist and also a tie mangas. Don't count as canon nor do the cd i games. Is that the same thing as the cartoon that occasion. They say it's a different thing as well <hes> the excuse me princess house. Let's get it say. The of what's the only thing i know is excuse me princess which i feel that said very poor. Reading like is then. There's also oh i'm so hungry i could eat a dongo an actor. You're right octa rock. Yeah yeah get your memes right alex right right but boy but but have you seen any of the laughing king jairo now. Maybe though we'll educate you later so though i do have one more question <hes> for for i want to put to yell into dealt various. Ilda games did link fuck the fish at dammit. <hes> breath of the wild is the most likely one. I'm going to say no because lincoln's ace y'all can fight me sure sure there's a power definitely in a romantic relationship even be ace and actual not a romantic you know i wasn't saying in sexual saying romantic doc you asked if he fucked fish but i'd say he did though he may have loved the fish respect for all the fish i've loved before yes we're not gonna shape water situation right anyways so <hes> and before we go delving into a stray discussions i will say like when it comes to pure blake game play stuff like breath of the wild man. I talked about this so much like at just wanna go loaded up again. It'd be like a fresh save file yeah. I i feel like the reason i can't play breath of wild is because my little complaints heart will want to get everything and i'm not even sure that's possible. I mean it. Is there nine nine. Hundred ninety nine corks needs. I would have to find all of them. That's every single one of them. I guess but i'm gonna get resentful sooner than i should probably but i'm still going to feel compelled. Yeah a mighty compulsion mighty need yes and was aren't so we talked long enough. Let's talk about what we'd do within the confines of the legend of zelda zelda order soda. Oh we won't making a newt said barbaro made me think of the law and order noise that now then thinking drew. I can't replicate mostly calm down calm yeah 'cause. I don't actually watch it on orders. That's not my thing so oh. I'm going to go for the obvious g- okay and that is <hes> we actually get a game with zelda as the main playable character instead of half of one of the cd. I games too. You said we're not counting the c._d._i. Games i know best wanted to share that yeah fair and you don't maybe maybe links the one in the castle who can provide the oh the the light arrows and <hes> the master sword and give you your musical instrument of the game and look very pretty in distant and zelda can go off and have adventures or maybe link is also a girl and they can have lesbian ventures and it'll be gray. I like that go with that and sold in the green tunic. Maybe a gift also event and thus helping my whole they were the three cups is the whole time argument into that had there the fucking goddesses and that's all end it turns back in on itself and they become the ones who create the world and <hes> provide provide the tri force that is how i end the series <hes> so like they they kind of realized that like the universe's destroying itself itself so enemies become friends. Maybe i'm saying that they are trapped. In this loop this endless cycle <hes> where they're reborn get these <hes> try force and are doomed to fight and to suffer and eventually it all has to do back in on self. They have to close the circle so that they can finally be fucking free while they're closing the loop. Aren't they guaranteeing that the cycle continues that they are free they can <hes> can can lead. There's an end point. Which is the beginning which makes sense if you're may the end was the beginning beginning. The beginning was the end all right all right. This also might be because i've been thinking about time travel sarah enough. I mean i mean it sounds like a time. <hes> i listen. Y'all should read this italian news time war. Go on all right so lake are the characters and in this case like are are they actual like goddess level power. They like super science or what's the deal there. What's the aesthetic i do think super science zodda would be fascinating. That's kind of breath at the wilds by the way listen. I get it. You want me to to play breath of the wild. I understand get me a switch in my endless campaign to get someone else to buy me one. You also get me smash brothers while you're in star valley. It's fine don't worry about it does look about it but <hes> i don't know i i think at this this point it's too late in the series to to do what i'm thinking by. I don't think it matters for the purpose of this exercise but have it she. I'm not even sure what i'm thinking will work because the whole three timelines thing but whatever time travel not anything in working time travel true and alex did say that one of the theories is at times breaking is a coughing back in on self so i can still make this work but as the series goes on and going back and forth from the time that with a game could help <unk> obstacles skate obsolete kate can help hide what's going on but have it clear that as time progresses even if they're new bodies they were getting more weary and maybe they're getting powers earlier or their understanding things sooner <hes> even if they don't understand y they know and maybe things start breaking down around them. When the <hes> the zelda the wisdom embodiment person gets for for lack of better term woke <hes> much much much earlier like millennia earlier so like and she's retaining memories each time and it's just like <music> bainer head against the wall fair. You don't have any proof that she hasn't because she's not the viewpoint character true <hes> like eventually you'll be like yeah i tried telling you guys earlier before but then y'all end up going crazy yeah and and there's no reason to believe we've seen all of the <hes> reincarnations nations true so that really this is just a tragic more tragic weird version groundhog's that were the same things always going to happen the new you can't change the end event of you're hoping maybe you can <hes> and the next day you're going to wake up and it's going to be different. It doesn't help that the game endorphin walk always ends up trying to take over the world. I mean come on buddy. Maybe because he sees what's happening but he doesn't understand yeah yeah. The impulse poor impulse control is a cycle that never rents. I sonny saw in my head because i can't help but be catholic commend a snippet of conversation between gannon and zelda with one of them saying come and see the other one saying i end i saw <hes> <hes> i like the background going whites but yeah ask so just as time goes on you see breaking down and seeing them become come more weary and figuring out a way to break out <hes>. I don't know how they do it but you see through the games the bits and pieces of how how do it that's actually similar to an idea of the birds like gandalf who is just the was was the weary one and i just want to die. Now you shared with me that comic someone did on tumbler of of like moment where they all all three of them recognize themselves being the cycle that they are and knowing the way that it has to end <hes> and endorphins talk link. It's okay you can do this. Seal be away. We can be done with this. Youth like with breath of the wild when it was before was starting. One of my pet theories was at a the old man was a gannon orphan disguise. I do like an idea of somewhere secretly good cannon. I want at some point. The old man because that's another a delta trope of of the old man being ganor door refused <unk>. It's dangerous to go alone. Take this another catholic selden line. Yeah i'd argue that <hes> the gannon dorf jeff in the wind waker. Oh yeah was kind of the world weary one 'cause his dream was gone. Hirose flooded there is no more high roll which time that one in adult time on that happens because the world has there wasn't there was no link. He sent back fucking right. It's it's fucking depressing yeah way to go. Zelda concur good job breaking hero and he had spent centuries just ruminating on it and just take that nine that line. I coveted that we're not wind. I suppose just bike breaks your heart because you can imagine that there was is at some point again was just a young ambitious man who wanted to better the lot of his people and at some point take the <hes>. Everything went wrong on yeah. I mean it's a classic corruption. Story is i would also like to point out how wind baker because the world is covering water. Water is a common creation <hes> myth component moyo just to keep going on that theme all right l. Do you have a story yeah. I have a few one that i would like is a a <hes> is a modern setting one. Oh it's done been done in fantastic several times and blake a like like a cousin in buffalo wild we saw the she could technology and like let's see that technology advance and advance further and this time emma it's no longer princess zelda the hands of the cal of the castle on good. Their family has been senator has ever links links a kid in a green hoodie. I'm glad i'm glad he didn't make them like links cobb op. It'd be fucking cop man. Oh man i'm glad i mean or private i link or whatever links always just a due to kills out. He's a kid who finds a magic sword like holy. Shit stored put that away. Thank link always struck me as vaguely useless if he didn't have that one really great dallat actually he he's a good unstable hand true true <hes> mainly because he's not afraid of the animals except for the chickens always be afraid of the chickens chance chance like another almond i want to put in is a kind of similar to yours pippa but like also kind of the opposite end that there's still bound by destiny but their qualities are degrading yeah like a at this point the delta is is just your regular straight a student whereas the hell they'll be for her have been accomplished magic from up from a young age. She's just like a straight a student and we'll probably do pre lockup <unk> degree and and link is now a just does a few extreme sports but uh not like super extreme just like goes base jumping every once in a while you know fair's fair he wants to too sick ali down a stare fang down a rail yeah yeah right now and it's a grind down rail pep okay tony hawk. Do you think link knows terms and meanwhile gannon orf is still around. He's now your stan- standard villain trope trope evil executive but like at this point he's just old executive of not even top tier company yeah <hes> gannon dorf the middle management but then destiny strikes those two extra how the destiny strike <hes> gannon as usual starts making his moves and zelda starts getting her premonitions and she doesn't doesn't know what the link starts getting his calls to adventure. Sometimes they re on his cellphone. Who knows that'd be funny. Also i just <unk> delta up to grad school and then i thought about grad students getting some visions <unk> going. I need to get more state so yeah a and then monsters start appearing again. Did you hear that there was a big problem dolly street a what is happening thing these days and i'm guessing that mundane weapons do nothing. I mean maybe depends on how you want to make the game. Do you wanna give like a gun bread. Do do you want to give link a gun. I'm saying i want to give the gun light gun <hes> but like they were making fun of the kid who found found a sword but then all of a sudden the kid is beaten ass when nobody else could yeah so. You know just some stuff. I'd like to see okay. I joked about this earlier but let's do it time. Heist people cuz while breath of the wild might taking place in a post collapsed time line. How do we get a collapsed timeline. In the first place. That's where hypo sheikha technology zelda takes place place and the zelda there that timeline working together maybe with the doctor gannon dorf who knows dr dorf doctor doctor dorf. Everybody big dr dorf but they're working on. Maybe <hes> trying to extract energy from other dimensions or something crazy like that nice sifi element there but maybe link is wednesday. I wouldn't say like a research assistant because that's not really his his thing but it is just maybe a patrolling in the area there when things go wrong wrong and we get like little time portals opening up all over the place and go into one and all of a sudden you're like zapped back due to <hes> offering time to link's awakening to all these other games and you're basically trying to seal all the various riffs that have been opening but it's like one of those hydra head situations like every single one that you're <hes> closing up another to open up in its <hes> stead and then maybe the big bad as even gandalf or anything like that it might be one of the things that we haven't talked about is that there is like an on saying all goddess but they're kind of is the goddess highly <hes> yeah. Did i think in my story now oh good not because you know she's like playing behind the scenes here in his observed the fact that the timelines have gotten all kinds of screwy while she's been off faffing about the universe who knows so that's where it gets revealed that like these little old time holes opening up are basically attempts to bridge the gaps between the timelines but then in trying to seal these refs is this kind of accelerated this big temporal collapse and it's a big big fight at the finish somehow to essentially make sure that everyone lives because it's imagine like having to deal with a separate timelines gannon suddenly seeing that there's other universes other high rules to conquer that kind of stuff halting on on that one has plenty of land yeah and just kind of a excuse to have even more fun <hes> blue glow energy energy swords and all that which i thought were really nifty in breath of the wild yeah that that's the the concept of going with here is zelda collapse. Ah time heist lead yet. Basically i think i do wanna see the theory. Alex talked about actually happen in one way or the other. I just think it'd be a fund fund situation to play through. Just imagine like the final levels where you just get like trippy space-time stuff happening you can fifty eight eh while i was thinking more like a the end into the spider verse with all that craziness happening yeah either or rather rela. How about a combination of the two we sure on some yes he's going to teach heats link prime in our time light at interest here the ropes of being link. We just need jake johnson voicing a character victor somehow my time nine long ranch closed down ten years ago to make the best bilk anyways so you guys have anything else for zelda collapse <hes> is it weird that i want to have a lightsaber in this. Is that leaving. That's kind of what the sheikha one should go. Weapons are yeah okay. I get it on pippa depending on if you get a the uber kirschner or not the mod zelda into the game. That's so much effort. Though i want even maude started valley wow so now that we've discussed that who's ready for a game him. I think i think give day earlier ono what happened. I was thinking modification of laundry day. Oh you're okay okay explain pep which is what happens after the story ends okay and keeping mind this franchise so so what happens is the next game but whatever immediately at the conclusion of the game two weeks pass by go right but yours match. Yes sorry i sing. Your mass kept me after time after yup yup. I will go first then at the end of twilight princess. I wont work. Acquaintances is let zelda and link okay 'cause in that game. The lincoln zelda meet twice three times three times two of those times. He's he's in before last time. There are fighting dandruff and then and saying off yeah really really. They're both mendez friends not really friends with each other and awkward word social situation right and so it's like oh you're still here l. Hey you you you like oh yeah a little late. I guess but like i'm from oregon we we were we officially officially became a province of a province high rule and i was elected to new bring you. A royal gift is link wondering the entire time if he's supposed to bow at this point to yes. It's the sword soared i had to it's a little used. <hes> had it got stamped into. It got stabbed into use. Some goblins awkwardly wipes it on his pants here. It came with a shield. That shield has gone the shield got bird. When i went to the ball quedo yeah the those okay hey <hes> okay. You just did a tremendous service for high rule. I hereby night you <hes> <hes> and of course <hes> since this seems to have ended up being a kind of secret war. Do you mind kindly fucking off. Thank you for your service. Go away. Please go yeah yeah. I mean i gotta got a girl back home. Though that's going to be awkward that's gonna be awkward. Napa is far enough with a mysterious princess from another world old. Oh no i was talking about men. No oh right right right we ask you and that moment home and when they see that maybe after a couple of years they could become friends after a couple of years after a few of like hey official magic destiny mission alex alex. I want you to write the letters that they right after this. I've made a few false starts on this. I will say that they do bond on the day. Hey that <hes> that midnight had to leave. It's kind of like an anniversary yeah sure or they. They have a solemn drink. Yes it out for our homegirl girl yeah halley. I mean there's a bar thomas like a encana. There's thomas <unk>. Mini liked to stuff. Did you ever really drink. It had poor taste she did she looked as looks pointedly at link but yeah so i want at best work acquaintances link end zola okay so here's the problem i'm having i suggested this was my idea but as mentioned i replayed was awkward enough time i am and we can honestly know what happens like two weeks. After the game legitimate soda matures match cabins yup. I dunno <unk> materials mask is the one i second know most about 'cause i watched other people play a lot and it's like the same three days over and over again again time travel and the things you can't avoid always happening and maybe the hope and the dream that maybe tomorrow will happen <hes> depressant uh-huh and here's the thing there's no reason to believe at the end of majorities mask. It stops being anymore depressing except accept your sure. The tomorrow comes but link is left with nothing. No he made some friends he got it might hermina the land of the fucking dead and you can't tell me otherwise i could have some words about that. <hes> i'm convince at terminus actually real. I think it's a weird other plane. <hes> we're maybe maybe linguist meant to go through the stages of grief they come out acceptance but here's the thing lincoln through some really traumatic stuff and at the end of the events of cocoon of time. He has lost his childhood. His destiny is already done. You know he's got some people he could top. Maybe he goes and hangs out with no doron in is gone. No no no no no no he's in the future and he also he goes and hangs out with during the year and he's got a fish fiance that he does and and he or does he go back to before the start of the toward <hes> well. It's weird 'cause peac because he had to give back. The corinna has a friend of the ranch girl amount on tax. He does borrow her hours. I guess a lot of it depends. It's on how far back he goes. We do know that he lease grows to adulthood because heroes shade is an adult weight is zack from that time line twice princess this child time-line oh i i assume that it would have been the failed time nine because he fucking failed no in twi prince s. a. by some toz mc joke as they're executing gannon dorf the tri force of power appears on his hand. Wait eight fucking because we believe wildly timing whiny because north gaining the try fourth in one time nine he he got it and the other time as well timing whiny. Bullshit is the tri force of power. I guess try force of hacks ax pretty much so this means no matter what inaugurated offering time link failed agri no time fucking depressing right din- that's one of the reasons why people have a problem with the time nine theory that all the time. I was fine until that one thing association like yeah well. Oh it's also why <hes> the gannon orphan the child time line <hes> is kinda just hammy yeah what fuck it linka goes off and it's a stable hand for mount on they fall in love. They get married to happy time until the world fucking ends her and the world doesn't cause gandalf got banished who the twilight realm. What is this game. I was like five minutes left and i know it's so close to getting fucking fine. No no whatever it's fine i've worked it out then the last asked possible moment. Oh by the way again at are still one but at the same time failed to what even is this twilight princess. This has been pippen rants. Your turn brown yes. Oh okay okay okay so i had a couple of putting around my head 'cause like the jokey one was like the immediate follow up from a link to the past after lake gets ultimate power and gets all his wishes granted a he 'cause. There's like a little little montage that shows like the pep pill it just has like a little montage ontai scenes showing like all the good stuff that link wished for and gets granted he wish for roy apiece practically free which for his uncle toby alive monkey paw well. That's one thing that could happen or it's just like just imagine walking through town. Hey league. Thanks were reviving my grandpa. You got it by the way i walk. Sorry wish granton boy uh-huh. Why didn't you bring back my grandma though she knows what she did why that thing said lake lake. Let let's get hype for any breath of the wild sequels. I look out my actually. It could be a playable character laming. They cut her hair and that's usually broker thrown. Sorry you go on. I made a dumb how to do the job. Yeah yeah <hes> because you know what's annoying for game of steel whipped hair clipping hair living through character models aniela. That's it's an easy way of taking care of that haircuts huzzah set so i'll legit just want to have the two of them have a happy happy time like link restorative village or made a village from scratch. Maybe they go hang out there for a little while like before whatever whatever next b. s. they encounter in their travels so it's called tarrytown yup and one of the prime is everyone everyone has it named the end in certain yes so why isn't it called sundown and smash them running in west from tarrytown. I don't know why they're so upset but now like i just want to have the little moment where even in the goofy link's awakening wish granting everything <hes> time line there like linked linked goes back to his house takes the shield off hangs up the sword on the wall puts his feet up on the coffee table and finally just gets to relax lacks because being a hero. It's tiring work. You guys see we never see like really like chill lax or anything like that prescribes from he just kinda slumps onto every betty's that's true hashtag same and <hes> breath while you can take a sleep campfires on fire santa and a and a ins for the bonuses too. I know i i i just a moment of respect from a chaotic world. Respite respite whatever it's just a nice bit i can just imagine him going home sitting down and then going came in and broke all my boss the cut to black yes. That's just me a little goofy bit jet all right so <hes> yeah that was legend of zelda. Yeah yeah left to our undivided as i'm sure we could talk about this for another three hours. Yeah gets talked about them on twitter. I've gotten to a phantom hourglass in spirit tracks. 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Introduction & Curacao Top 10  (KWYWTG 1)

Know Where You Want To Go Travel Podcast

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Introduction & Curacao Top 10 (KWYWTG 1)

"Are you looking to take off with more knowledgeable your favorite destinations with the best travel? Tips and tricks without all that blah-blah in the right place. Welcome to know where you wanna go travel fast with your. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the know where you wanna go travel podcast. My name is candy young. And I'm very happy to be here hosting this podcast. This is actually my first venture into podcasting. So can forward to this being the beginning of many, great things and really overall being a very informative source for you. And an all listeners out there who are trying to kind of get a gathering of information on travel, and as it stands now specifically to island near and dear to our hearts Nesty island of curse. Al what makes us different about travel, and what we know in and everything is well, first of all, we don't know everything we don't call ourselves experts. We don't call ourselves geniuses or really just nerds. We dig into travel information. We kind of just evaluate things that most people don't think about could be the current political climate and a country could be. The current weather climate in a country that makes much sense that there's a lot more to it. Anybody can go online go to various websites and look at reviews and so on and so forth. And and really the end when you do that you're going to find that there's still some disappointment when you get to a destination are those five star reviews really five stars. I mean are definitely five stars there. But are these destinations already locations are they five stars? Or is there some more to the madness of them getting to that ranking and on the converse side, these three and a half star locations that we may or may not want to go to they really as bad as the ratings imply oftentimes those organizations are able to put together the marketing strategy to be able to get those rankings manipulated upward into the five. So you had to be careful with those resources. So, and you know, what we believe is. You don't have to be someone. That's lived your entire life. Somewhere or you go to a place one hundred times a year to be an expert on it. In fact, I think the converse is true there as well. Think about this person is thinking about moving to a new city or state and we've moved a couple of times from the Carolinas up to New Hampshire down to Texas. So we know what movies all about the you can ask someone, and you, and we did this every time is you know, you could ask someone who's lived there for a lifetime. And what do you think they're going to say when you're looking to move to the location they've been for their entire life are almost their entire life. They're going to say something to the effect of why would you wanna move here and the same thing should apply to travel to if you're looking at people who have lived somewhere all their lives, and you're saying, well, what should I do when I could occur. Sowell. Should I do when I go to Las Vegas or wherever may be. We ask someone who's lived there. You're gonna get a different answer isn't always bad. Now. I mean, not really it's not always bad. But there's always potential for something to be not quite right. So that's what's diff. Different. Here is you know, we're going to tell you what we've seen in the few times we've been to place because we've in the few times we've been to a place. I can tell you that I have spent hours and hours of time researching and then when I get there, and when we get there, we talked to people we get to know people, and you're going to find into future and future episodes. We're going to interview some of those individuals from organizations in these destinations that are going to give you a pretty unique viewpoint that you're likely not gonna find anywhere else. I'm very excited. I'm kind of making some promises here. You're going to hear things that you would hear anywhere else things like that kind of cliche that anybody with a new type of venture just say, but I feel confident about that. So for today's episode definitely wanted to at least give you a taste of what we're looking at. And you know, it's a big thing is our focus on curse out right now as an organization in that's going to be the focus of our podcast. So getting right into our focus today where it's going to look at the top ten reasons that we feel curious. How is the? The best Caribbean island visit in twenty nineteen. We'll let you read more about this top ten list on our blog, which will put into show notes below so quickly got through that list. And I'll save the rest for you to read later through our blog and through our website. We'll start with sure diving a lot of times when you think about scuba diving. You're thinking about going out on a boat into the rocky waves and go in jumping outside of a boat but curse how you can do that. But the greatest thing there is that you can sure die from so many different destinations and one of the companies that we use over there the died bus, which we love, and we'll promote them all day long and just out of love for them and their leadership. They are super great with short diving. So we recommend them for that. Before I continue on this list. Just wanna make it clear that this top ten list is not in any particular order. You can't really go wrong with any of these ten items next up is taking a tour with IRA tours. I returns is a great organization that does a variety tours on east and the west side of the island, and they really not ins and outs. Their staff has been doing these tours for quite some time. They have so little turnover. I see the same individuals working for them that worked for them. The first time we went there several years ago. So that's a real good sign that things are going. Well, you can not only do that. But there's a lot of great segway tours. They do they do that in the Punti area. That's the downtown area. And they do so many things that are custom to your group. If you want or otherwise next up is cliff jumping I'm gonna admit right now that I have tried to get myself today cliff jumping off the main cliff and play a forty many times and. Yeah. Has happened yet. That's a forty foot jump, by the way. But there are several opportunities to do cliff jumping in curse out that just happens to be one of them. The Queen Emma pontoon bridge is another standout incur, Sal, very large. You just you can see it from a distance, very massive bridge. That's a sight to behold when you're over there. So great thing there. There's a lot of beaches and curse out. And there's a future episode to talk about degraded speeches, and Chris Alba MAMBO beach is one that we really like because it's close to a lot of the resorts at Scott, some great waters, and there's just so much to do there during the day and at night. You can't go wrong with the food. And Chris I'll either a lot of people say that about any destination because everything so unique you're always gonna find something pretty incredible. There we love to see terrace. You can read more about that on our blog and see what they have to serve there at the seaside terrace that has to be right across the street from the Daiva. So it's very convenient spot after diving in the morning. Other things you can do their paddle boarding. That's pretty impressive anywhere but curse out us. Something super amazing though, people like to do the downtown district. Poona district is amazing Christoffel national park, the ostrich farm. You know, there's so much there. You know, you can find some much to do incur sow. And again, you know, we'll go into this things more in depth in the future. But this is kind of an overview podcast. I didn't want to get too far into woods on on a large topic today. But they're so much. We're going to be able to talk to in the future when it comes to curse out. And as I mentioned, we're going to be able to have special guest on our show that we're going to be able to interview from Currah south, and eventually we're going to branch out and get in some other areas as well. So if you're bored with Kerr sow this might not be deployed cast for you right now. But if it's something intriguing whether you've been there before not keep tuning into us. And again, look at the show, you get a link to our blog, you'll get to see what we're going to be looking at talking about in the future on the podcast and. And eventually we'll get ramped up and get some special guests on again. This is the first dive into podcasting no pun intended there to the dive reference. So you know, we're going to work out some bugs with it. If this went a little bit of a different flow than you've expected. A you know, I've been listening to podcast for quite some time. And I tried to take some best practices, but at the same time try to put a unique twist on it. So to avoid contradicting my, blah, blah, blah, no statement there. I'm going to go ahead and conclude this for today in wish you all the best for the rest of your day in the week. And we'll be back soon with a second episode, and we'll get more into other aspects of kera sow in the exciting things to do there. Thank you, again have a great day. Thanks so much for listening to this episode of tower. 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Episode 68 I " Belly Button Freak "

The Point Of It All

1:13:45 hr | 2 years ago

Episode 68 I " Belly Button Freak "

"Ever. Eight. Anything slowly. Okay. I'm here for the Dokie. They'll be down. Okay. I'm not here to be all tender with you. I'm not here to put slow jams on. Okay. At incoming here keeping here give my ass. All right. You need to be making sure I can't walk afterward. Okay. When I'm done fucking you wanna cuddle I, I should want to call the police. Okay. I'm you to give it up. All right. I don't like when you wanna fuck in be like touching me all slowly sheet. Pick me up his Lamey up against the fudgy wall shit. I'm not here to have sex ju. I'm here to fight. You come out shit all this low shit. Y'all talking about. You won't be so gentle, gentle, bitch. I don't want to gentle shit high drive me bitch. You should not be able to tell if I'm alive or not. After come on. You come better come out like a fucking fire hose. I want you to net with the fourth of a fire hose. Bitch sent me into the fucking stratosphere, don't wanna slow dance with you. Schick I am here for the smackdown. Stopping fucking child. Don't be fucking childish with me cake head, but me. Bucknell past yard here like podcast episode, number sixty, eight down everybody. What I was good. You good. All right. I'm your host videos. Mccade a blog teddy rucks aka missed the two socks himself in here with me as always to pun God scoring owes going. No back in the bid we got frit met to beckon in his hope was good backup in this fine when no condoms on weight you. That's not like you. An artist isn't a one time deal. Not sometime we strap up sometimes sometimes when is that with people? I know. New visual random of all k-. So you get accountability there. Okay. See, I just thought you just don't always mainly hail now. Oh, no, nah. Okay. We thought you would not live. People. I know it ain't been no. Lucia, if I was the six fifty, that's what you Nash if I find a shortage with over seven. That's definitely no con- no kinda with the seven. Seven hundred pluses, she'll be pregnant pregnant. Second telling her that this week pregnant pregnant. Coach, all man just is this just life in it, move by finit life and I know shit. Oh shit, real shit. It always we will have failed love what is real in a way the facon in we see each other week. We know the persons faking earned action. Election behind the social media you could, you know, I see. I know you. Love to states. You know how women sometimes they, they hold a lot in their whole in a city, and so would they do you know, get a clean slate and move to another state and city. Away. You mean hold on the city in state? Yeah. So they moved to a hold on state in the same city. They in a city I did. I said, oh, you said, and yet in. Don't you route to a hold on the city in the state. Or but no state. Okay. Asari came Kim you to another state anonymity. Right kinda council till thou great leave. You move another state. He's going to. That's right. Seizures said they just moved to another saying now. Right. 'cause you saying the city? That doesn't mean it's not in the same state though, but to to have a ablaze. You're you're loosely, right? You don't own right. You can. It doesn't. Does move on the forty forty minute plus away. If a girl came from southern Illinois right now up here, unless you know somebody, she knows, you know what her reputation was. Thanks. Sure. You're gonna move I mean, yeah. Okay, right. You need somebody to let you in on a year, but that's coming from somebody who's been Sowell noise. Just stay. Okay. Dame cities in southern Illinois. You'll reputation you still come up. Your facts can still come up. L. Nevada, you ain't even gotta go that far. You can. You can move thirty minutes away and be cool. Somebody up all bro. Somebody can move up here from Bloomingdale, Illinois to hear right. And if you don't know nobody that on the other day pass. Somewhat. Yeah, within, yeah, you got a point. You can won't, nobody know like he out. So that is a question about that Dan. So let's say you meet achieve that any from your city. You know, sweetest can be wholesome, which was name, whatever like that. Nobody knows whatever she from whole of the city, and some shake comes up later this from somebody. Some random Parsons is like at nowhere you find out her whole face comeback. Okay. Okay. But this girl is like my new. You four, you four, you fill in the horn like, okay, this is it. I know this way before l. is that whole facts going? Fuck up best situation for you depends on what's on the whole facts though. I like there's some some sketchy things on your facts, though. It could be some sketchy base occupied, forgive Acuff, forgive a lot of dudes on your life. Your body count is you know where it is. If it's high, I could forgive that. I don't know. Like would be. Any good idea, hit him out of how I understand if you accumulated. If you ail thirties. Number. Yeah, I can see, right. 'cause we talked about, we broke down how numbers can get up. We break down all k- college. But when if it was like, yeah, the town, she just came from like she was taking multiple dues at a time all the time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, my guys was just running trains with like a guy was introducing him to his friends. She was fucking them all. They wanted guys introduce him to other friends that were telling she I'm on. I'm a loose. Grown more? I don't. I don't know. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay. How good you can't because that image which is always gonna, be my head. And then all of you doing Mike. Why you want to get a second chance for me. Why does meat. Say you wanted to take down hole park. New neurone me. Selfish. That's real. Now I want to start new is, you know, because none of them guys took you serious. I find that very hard for that to happen, although very well may happen. But at our age I can. I don't see that happen dependent on, you know, the age of the woman they'll see will I don't see that the multiple train. Yeah, you, you don't think it's a thirty year old woman out this Oregon, the train. I find it finally like probably very rare for happen. I can't agree with them crazy. Y'all, like that's a young naive that will get trains. Ran on her early teens, young team, bro book talking about it's it's older thoughts bars like ready to go like. I don't think you'll you'll you'll, you'll dot co. Two Ristic is only about age. You can be very Dada shield thirties, Gers. That's true is up at at think the chances are rare. What would it be war? So would you hear about it more so from younger checks, I will agree with that, but I'm not saying that is not some thirty four year old that last Wednesday. Didn't get three one handicap match. A wherever say that excuse me, go right three on one or lease. One do in another to liberal waiting waiting. I got Hicks, so you're, but that's the thing. A lot of chicks get down with the guys together, like it ain't a lot of scenarios where the other guy got a wait, even if it's a check that two guys through more than likely to guys go on, they're going to do yet. Right? No one's gonna be here. We'll begin here right, or you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah. I mean, I've been there where you know you the personnel. So yeah. I mean, that's not the realm either is what I'm saying. I can happily say up, never done that done. The waiting, like somebody I know was hitting the chicken. I'm just like in another alway term budget. Say, I've never done that. I've never done persistent one MRs. Know what it is. I'm gonna be honest. Okay. Good callers car, but we're not was out there in the world. Mike was out there. I had this thing about sloppy seconds. I had this pay. So if I wasn't. Yeah, if I was I the train conducted exactly the now one going. Yeah, I had to stay behind. I would. I couldn't. It was just a mental thing like I couldn't already know what you do the. No, I'm going. I don't know what you do and I'm going, I, I just got started. Even if it was a chick that we knew was going unless say, we knew she was going because like another group were not. I grew, you know, with Yemen. But was she gets our circle of friends. I couldn't go behind somebody like if I wanted to. I I there was just like, okay, I've just not going to do it. So you the conductor of all that was just me Autry as a wanted to be out. I wanted to be the conductor I to be the person to like I was I for you. No. Interesting. Has that interest you. Okay. Okay. Let me part two of this question. Not like a phase day like, oh, I can say, fuck wit strip. No. I mean, like long-term right now you meet a Chit. You've either with it. She legend shares triple. I'm fucking when it is going to end right there angle, you know, serious than it. Interesting doesn't let me I'm. Like I said this before, I'm old school. So I have a problem if I'm days by the to show a body a lot, but I guess showing your body, but when you post pictures have naked, that's a problem for me. I'm like, no, no, I'm I'm, I'm saying interesting. I'm with you that I couldn't do it, but I never thought about the way you are that you even forester. So that was what I was saying interested. The food. Thing. I tell myself, you gotta us economist girl. I don't own it. Got to tell myself, like, you know, oh my God. I've been there though. Because it's bigger worst, but I dislike I'm aware counter because even the person that you release the spec can still be living double life. Oh yeah. No, no matter how clean a look or how will they act. They been out there doing Dame, but trust me no tens outside the team for me when I'm come to that conclusion where a had have to wear a condom, I'm not doing. I'm doing it easily. Look. I'm not wearing on. No, no, no. Just whip the joke, but note funday. No, no, no. I'm just not gonna do a period. I'm not going to be because you know me, I don't. I don't like where condom so awards. The mentality is I'm gonna have to wear a condom. Oh, her I wanna do it period. It's not. It shouldn't be. Mattel. Liam had where Campbell hers is. I'm aware I need to wear a condom. 'cause again, this is somebody new would have liked that. Don't want kids and I'll know she got. It's not necessarily where you second guessing that she guide anything not. It's just knowing that it's the safest thing to do. Yes, for I get that. Here. Right. You are willing you are teaching health plan. Right. What I'm saying in my mind, I gotta tell myself that I for sure have us account girl. Not happening. Why? Why are you mind you gotta tell you though? Because type of. 'cause like she's a stripper, she's a prostitute or she's the town thought. Yeah, you're saying only like you visit. There was between a question Mark in someone for certain yet. You know what I'm saying? Like when like a prostitute. That's one for certain stripping. I so must not all strippers have say understand, but I'm serving signatures which terfel you, right. I'm not either, but does to con SU closer. I don't know. Maybe you had a whiz they you were making your normal, mount money. You need to go bub and beyond. See, I mean it'll be hypocritical for me to say I can have sex in strip when I know that this important stars that offer Shorewood value Dan without a rub know what a world will. Oh, lies dollars for sure that I know our down without question that's a, you know what you are. Right? So we don't look at arc the same. I don't look at Torstar strip. Right? You know, has made it because get tested regularly. Yeah, I'm not trying to hit a poor start without a Connell, but because you see a work and because they one of your favorites in your mind, you like, ooh, you want to expand the holiday, right. You know, with the stripper, she be doing all the tricks. Taking the clothes off in my mind is still not going to be like, take you down con. It's like, yeah, sorry, I think. 'cause you know, see they work like that. Be close like that we watch porno. Yeah. We see they weren't. We move million rows of the work. So you know when you get your favorites is just a different mentality. If I feel the need that I can't, I can't mentally be with you because you're shepherd. Ben out, have to let it go, but I'm being I'm trying to keep an open mind or stuff like that. I am now. I would probably younger meets overflowing. Would one currently came about. Okay, name entertained. It thought of I get it because I would think at this point I mean, we, you know, we'll older so we know ourselves pretty well why you know before you even take step and dying to deal with this in a way already know the possibilities and are no in. Uh-huh. And most certain things trigger me, oh, whatever. So Yang aplenty even my trying it on to that little Wismer term like a memorial service things in my life. I win also younger me when I was just when care still finding me. This is like right. Mess around with the strip. I guess the moral the story is we don't really see sex work the same yell without that. Yeah, we don't. We don't as far as through no poorest years chippers yet. Because so many strips become points that to which is the weird part of surgery did? Yes, she did. Sarah did a lot of mar right now. When you make the transition? Yeah. So jokes at the end of the day, all Joe is soldiers is portion, but a joke to have earlier, you're here for it the Carlo for urea thirds. It is the big talker to recently she brought up baths. Versus shows something us. I really believe this any majo- this I'm bid as I've lead us all Dushi retain bass. It's interesting. A. Do it should be Saleh's only? I don't think I'll think no dues taking over bass. I don't know, is this funding to me? Right. This is funny listening last the last time I. No. The last time I took as my mom made me in back in like nineties, like the night year, not gonna bath. His not been a in the two pounds that I'll set my ass. I don't think I've, I don't remember the last time I plugged up. The. Cleaning them. Every water is like, okay, that's my temperature go. I have done that for Beth resume. Not recently won't before I was the last night us realize is by relatio-, but. Wine defense said it has to be reason for it. The reason for for me was, but you have sex back, so it's better to soap your body sorely needed. Slow can high water. So can I get that or so that's what I'm saying. That's the news never know. 'cause if you when you get to thirties and forties, you'll body is going to start acting crazy. It's gonna lack up in shabas. Don't do it. Let me you got to soak in hot water. I would agree with you because last week because of the job I do. I have to sit in some water with Epsom salt, right? Something right, but that's not. I didn't bay very it just cover my legs. So I guess that was technically the last time says, advance even like, man, I got back. I mean. Loss. Do that anyway. Besser not clean. Bassin I clean. Even if you take a bath later, you still need to take a shower. You still need to go ahead and richer so and take a shower again. So the thought of regards of, you know, like soaking in a tub is cool, but if you're gonna put if you get the bubbles and all this stuff like that, unless you would. Yeah, I know most Alosha unless you would achieve Dennis chicken as cool kick bash, which will shake, I'm asking like, check rely, we should. We should washy turned up. Okay. And then like she plug up the top. All automatic thing. She wanna sound with again, like she started wearing bathwater as she might. So first of all of reiterate how OC is overly, you totally user. Me at one of my exhibition do that. Just soak soak into tow. But it we still take a shower to get cleaned up. But again, that's when you with somebody. You gotta you know, lady with coup y'all. Hey, y'all wanna one time with this other y'all soaking in that is one thing I haven't done Virginia yen ashtrays that is threaded. Is France tread that is any any do who says that being in the shower, which a woman is great. Note there the hell wrong that should try to. I don't even think is I art our idea now is never are it's yeah. 'cause you're getting a cold in of overrated. The only turn it is good is if the shower is like it was like a walk in shower, that's big enough and you got roll. Yeah. Yeah, times knives. Cool, right. It's just a regular show. Other than that, you'd be like, you've got to want gotta get in the water gotta move around. He signed and it. Okay. Let me go ahead and get muscle. My body not asleep that why she often a, why should get the high water fairies and Danielle switch and do a repeat and a up any both. VR don't like the same temperature women late. They should scorch forwards like this. They Bernie yo, fuck his skin. I'm like, damn. Then you may see something that turned you off about her cleaning habits like you may. She may be like, I'm dying my way you didn't even wash between Toews. I don't think. Never thought you. E white unin you'll ears and nut than you are. Some, no, this would obviously. I was nibble on your ear. I one is smell like Becks. Tom, when your belly. Homework, Lima, villain, Nisshi hurt. Right. I thought voted on. That's what I do in my every two weeks. Kinda around with dirty bellybutton. Heard. No. Really. That's your heard. To go on a great. Shit, Heike hearts, hide. He hurt hail. Unlike doing that, like finger nets. Imagine putting the talent new insensitive. I'm gonna grew up on. That is funny. That's the finish in were glad we stumbled upon it because is trash because it hurt my. Yeah, that's why you do every to you not supposed to do it everyday. So sitting there with job just don't let kiss it. The. Anyway, she freaky. Also. This. Warning to telling. This'll biters listed. So why they looking man, they're talking about me that went that don't say mainly let your girl. Early, don't seem. Sorry. Thing to do a let me done. First of all, what is having a you? Don't have no is going to happen. That's I, you know. Say to grow, she was thinking today, he it, that's exactly what you think. But she Bob sticker enough. Okay, is it has not laying all you are discussing no woman. To give a hit. You has never dislike, atone your belly. No, not that I can recall. That's interesting. It's happened to me. I need know donor. Last my believers. Go ahead. For her rose. News talking about my belly one. What you what you not gonna do my sister as belly but taking bubble bath. So you're not going to. I will not see he right on this microphone in let you talk about me, my belly button, beta fruits, not. Yeah, right. I one if you allow you to free to just told you don't know is go happen. It's happened. First of all ages don't go to town on is like. Liquor? Yes, it happens the council, hey, so that you did earlier, Lucian a month. I go on double Kate attempts to and to be honest, I don't ever remember it happening more to want to female. Is your something that just happens and is like in this ice cream night, you know. After this, they don't go to town on it. I can't even remember. It happened more than twice the second time is brewery. 'cause I don't even know if it happened. I know happy for show once I knew have the for show once, but I feel like it male having twice. Yeah, but of course, two different changes to freaks and they just they just wanna lick all no reason. Okay. You know, they believe you clean everyone and who don't wanna women like it I think is weird if a Cheik sucking on balls, but she licking belly button to, I'll think. Yeah, that's kinda like that's hypocritical, very muscle. Especially if you gotta take view a guy. 'cause the BAAs you dig is in the same region is as one is all one yet. She's going down your chest like we say it to give you hear you work, eight hours, shake she. She started neck going down your chest. She just lick your belly bud and then keep on t. filthy anyway. Yeah, def. Felt the issue getting ready to dig. She nodded his workday dollars and appreciate y'all because you know the we wired is missing Malfa before you kiss me. Let me say if this female is listened to sewn in. I'm with you after you say ill, but on the other end, you tell Shamir solid terminal. To get to tunnel, don't make no sense. Don't they know that make zero. So what are you? What about zero since the revival Yami think poss-. I love you after that. If you if you are cool enough, you know delinked my balls after I worked eight to ten hours or something like that, sometimes twelve, you came home and you you did that. You got in my book, you say, going to shower, go, you know going about or something like that. So some did. No, no good. In my book. I applaud her freakiness, but I am with Fred with. You cannot try to kiss me. I'm sorry what you cannot try to miss. You came first of all, I know will type in the line of work and I'm here I get dirty. So you definitely not go. No, I can't. Yeah, my me too. I know what kind of work I'm into. So yeah, are already know, come home, dirty or clean. Amanda don't kiss me at the. Yeah, I'm not. I'm okay. So different eggs. Okay. So. So never once. Has the chick gave you here. And end that ram of y'all messing around. You didn't kiss maybe in the Whiteley app. Heaven before will grow, can't be killed after she had just gave me head and it threw me off completely to resign. I was forward like I still flow, but I was the mood changed a little bit like my attitude chains. Like I said, it's a friendly show that you really is injected while you gotta even know that I'm okay with that. Don't just put the do that. If I eat you out in comics, you afterward, some not want their shit. I dunno girl who don't want that a ambience. I haven't Konica media not having that didn't say like move like, no, they were all I've never occurred. I mean, even if you're in a relationship rate, is that what you're saying? You still just with you? That's that's good. I, I mean, relationships revisited for a minute. I could probably let them slide. 'cause I understand if this like new, probably let them slide. Because at that point should win tasty other anyway, that's on seven for a minute. So I probably would be okay with that, but had to be clean. Now I'm not saying you get nut in amount trying to kiss role while. Wall diff- will say, whoa, okay. I'm just saying just the. There, you know. Tobacco. I'm here. I don't really. I don't get that because I mean, I like I like a lot of hit in the beginning. So with that, you know you during sex, you're going to kit. So she's like this, not necessarily. I mean. Okay, that's you. I'm Brian has plenty on his in advocates and I have to notice. I've been there before. Six women who have. I don't kiss that was just like my weird. I won't say phase, but it was a weird thing I was going through at that time. But yeah, but yeah, I, I like lot hit didn't beginning. So once the most states is is going on. Yeah, you gonna kiss like a few tone. So I don't. I don't get that sentiment is far as the kissing in, you know, you get hit at, you know, but right before or during it or something like that. People like people I get hit during, you know, it just varies, but others don't see people not kissing after, you know, I just don't get that one. You already taste each other. So I don't. I don't get the reason why didn't. 'cause you taste each of you not taking yourself refers annot that I'm squeaky clean, so I'm not tasting anyway. Just put that out there. Slow. Okay. Never been a dirty. Ever. No, I've never do. I wouldn't even let a chick do that. I'm sorry. What like he here? Why? You know you rain lie yet worked and didn't let let like I'll be like baby. Thanks. I just Ryan for mean I will. I will stop her, but she said, I'm okay with big surviving. Okay, persistent AVI. IQ wait accurately. Kiss me afterwards. No, I'm not waiting ruined the whole mood luck. Honestly. I don't want to. I don't. I don't wanna mess up the mood. You don't said that's just me like who wants to wear. Okay. Let me new CEPA Dan, like he had to move my change after the fuck if you want to get it. Now let's get an which of his girlfriend to about a just a chick. I trying to give my girlfriend thirty. Those just what it is. I don't do. They spent trying to respect your girl having sex, so wait, so you. So you're either. Does dif-. No. Okay. She hit the gym. She got back. Okay, came afterward. I can't what. Wow, really? Awesome. Different. I'm hopefully 'cause this was once I get the smell going. The way I'm at a not is internal though meal terms like the grows, corroded. This is any is just gonna handle sin. It ain't going to be like with, she's clean. You ride her clean, you know, when she coming over so she didn't? Yes, I'll cave that. I get like, yes, she get Komi everybody. We know how our boss mail when clean. Yep. Giant at worse. Exactly. So you you ain't anal ticket twice on that one. If if I know how boss meal, I know I'm nothing to go down there. Knowing this you've been working eight hours. I'll cave you missing on your ass all day. You still doing. Eight hours that's fat, confined spaces. That facts. That's right. I mean, Raytheon, that's very. Well, you say you will. You just made double standard. So I made it a double standard. He said, is different. Etihad dirty. They you lash neck as is not different. It's not different at all. So you would is acceptable. It's not different is actually pretty much dissect this site. So yes, both yoga, dairy, generous, Mary. Yeah, that's crazy. That's look to the don't understand my girls that go to UC grows at workout at the gym, and you see all the went goes in area. Yeah. Like from crack all the way up around is all the whole big sweat spot right there. And that turns you on exciting by ocean papers. Get this Swiss by right up the gym? Yes. I just find it love. That's. That's just love to me. I don't do not in love into you. Sorry to you. Do that now you say you can be in the bathroom, why she shouldn't. Yeah, that's true too. I can't that I should do alert that could be good on that. Offer a deaf liberal like acade- that the act of love you instill. Taking to sit Verson Duff, accepting. Yeah, that is set to the fact that I loved you now by I'm in love with you now know. No, no, no. I'm good. Been known. Come become. No. Here do a McConnell. No. I've been there where I was on the pot in girls want to be up in the battle. Having a conversation make this is still the wiz Domi. Oh, great. Like, I'm I'm, I'm holding my singing to the lake. You'll want hideous. It look out my way cry, rec-, man. I don't like I don't like that period. Also. I'm surprised you'd never had a Blinken I what is the book. I heard a desirable. Will you get here on the toilet. Oh, wow. No, I don't think I mean even concentrated sighing if I gotta Blunk ill bumpkin. Got my piss urine still comes up. Yeah, I've never had one. I wouldn't want to have one, but I just feel like out of the three, you will be one go. Taking a shit and hit you because you. That's right. You don't have the trash to get a blah. I'd never heard of this thing before, and so, no, I don't think I like my privacy, so hell. No, I'll do anything else. Only bucket, respect the good. I will do all Haruna come. I, you really have Monday while on Tangier sheet type knees, deuces outright. He'll smell. Visit on the first guy you did. You will busy not show. I not. You'll I, you could pretend. I don't know. You done this, you too comfortable. Just relax. Before relax. Thomas, you wanna give free. That's all. Owners, anything bad to do anything with like section light bap like chara sakes is overrated best trash? I don't. I'm not wish our saying that's garbage no-shows. It's only okay if some learn height, it has the talk Supertramp stir own strong. First of all dangers is dangerous. If. We. Slipped loose. I mean, you could start off though in it, but you ain't going to hold session is Doug kickoff in Mouillot. Start off. We'll young Frederick. I've tried to to finish. I'll try the finish in into in insolence, assess when I was a snap pleasant. We wasted a whole bunch of hot water Iran, ironically, finished on the toilet by sitting on the toilet understanding. Okay. What Nutley says apprised. At this plane. That's having shower sex definition on toilet. At that point is supporting. Okay. Okay. I got a lot of pounds. I just doesn't need. Okay, I get it the fan. Oh, sixty nine Weedon. We didn't win completely left you somebody out there giving Blunkett's and licking labels this actually because you knew exactly what it was the hard water you knew, but I'm never heard anybody omitting in one. I don't think anybody will admit to get in one. Let's again pay. Yeah, that's what you get paid to do away if this cheap that you wouldn't wait. Why not if you just lying Mana, had this low Brahma man. She came in a bathrobe. I was using proceeded to give me here. So I let. See note like, why wouldn't you mitt to that? Like I don't even want all that stuff going on together, like me shit and gin Ralph. So let's me that's that. Right, right. Why am I getting to row? What are able Louis. Don't even show it's. What is happening. This is something adding you're? No, I liked. I'm gonna talk to you after this. S. craze. Emily's we are discussing this. You want to discuss our is Judah will I really say much, but you said you only do a bump Cam. I never said I would do thirty giant. Aaron. He first okay that, okay, the way you making it sound as I said, if she was coming from work out, do I don't see nothing roller than John? This may okay, dirty pussy idiots. Dr me, we'll get you eat a similar owning to see what for. One Cup, one risk loca SEO's eight knows crazy. We making these jokes like, you know, like retail people like, don't take us. This is all just turning Raggio, but that you necessaries. That's. The one thing about don't. 'cause you down my hand bottle. You just didn't like twenty minutes ago. What the. Scuffling this look the, he knows. Hello. If run a company. Whose company Friday company. All these people. Listen. The little. Discuss the s cool man. I didn't like a year. Forgot. I swear. I swear to God. So hard to believe. As we're to got are done in about a year to just imagine like two weeks ago. Up. That was enough the giant nets death different though. You wanna get to these. Yeah, because your trash man before we get to these emails. Now this weekend before this. I think when this when this episode jobs. Usher drops. He's dropping album. This weekend. Ella Mae is dropping album. This weekend young EMMY. No Ella Mae was Ellerman the trip, the trip in Bootle. Ella. Yeah, Elleman their job albums this weekend. Look for at Arles. I didn't even know about the ushered thing until today. So you said it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, he's shopping Cravo shopping today to. That's why I was thinking, oh, quavo shopping today to Cueva is the best one out the group anyway. So speaking of l. may was to a heard a swishing beef with which the que- thing. Yeah, yeah, no thought it was the producer Twitter's magazine like is good. It's Ella Mae, but it was definitely. It was definitely DJ muster. It was the producer the hushing gotta beef with DJ mustard. No, no. Yet to be he's the reason yet to take the song though. So jock we did the, he. Did a remix, the trip, which is why I thought it was good. His garbage on, you hit the few hard original hit. His version is pointless. This is out because I don't like out. He's not a singer, so his voices doesn't fit or you like the e. Hey. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he just answer. Yeah, you see. E e now. So this is just didn't. It didn't go for the song. What's kept it. I thought it was decent. Lot of people don't like it, but there was a version to trip and started the bubble. And after a while, it was said that he had to take the version now he had his version down because he started the monetize it monetize meaning he did get money off of his. So he had to take it off you to take it off, although other platforms and stuff like that. And so everybody was blaming l. may for, but a lot of people just don't know the the business side of the, you know, she doesn't have the power for her to tell him to, you know, to take it also, it was actually the her manager in a wreck labeled, DJ Muslim. So then who was he sound have blocked him because he was as she even blocked me. She blocked him on Twitter to block them on Instagram, my black door on my social media. Right. Why would she? Why would she blocked? I don't know that seeing. That's another thing. She put out a problem with it, but the initial problem was. From her? Yes. Foam muster, he went on a whole thing talking about people take him beats and stuff like that and what may meet the, I thought about somebody. It was other people saying Twitter lights, Wayne always our sir, like Wayne ever. Miss Mason, be free. So you know, posted monsters on that ROY. But when he brought it up his initial initial token about it, he wasn't even like making a big thing about the money part. He was just like talking about like her art form and the fact that he took her song like, does this do go word for word pretty much. He just he puts in his his version in the mail suspect of it, but you go by the same town, same delivery, the same. I mean, the hook and everything's pretty much the same is changes a couple of the worst to fit will, but his Ferdinant. But yeah, pretty much you. Yeah, that's did a whole week. He dislike he'd to the cover of the song. Right, right. And changed. I see you trying to get paid off of it. Right, right. That's what he was saying. He didn't flip. He was just basically is like he was trying to make his own version of sunset, like Zion might. Yeah. If I went every went when when oughta artists was doing the, the remix with the. Buddha, Buddha, they was in China, sell China, use her. They was doing Ateneo verse. Adding there. They were doing performance that way. Make money off it that way 'cause they apart of the remix. But when you start doing it and you're doing a remix, what you're doing it in, like her words and do her version of it is kinda lightning right? You doing a cover of it. He just changed a few words, mayday raided like ado vers to gray. Basically he was take all however the song was written and as we don't, it is saying in pain Blair boy l. no, he didn't t paint it, nothing like that. But when initially came out, I'm meeting Lee thought away because Wayne's been doing it for fifteen years now. Maybe he shouldn't have shot to get money for it because this it is a cover. It's not like he put a new verse two, it is. It is a cover. He just changed. You know he to her. The heat up a Instagram video, mainly. I mean, that's the clip that scene. I miss anything else for, but yeah, that was the grim video for, but yeah. Yeah, I'm staying at though. Did you hear about the terrace j. thing I was involved McCarthy? Yeah. Let me just read this off real quick. Tears. J. as of right now, just happened. Yeah. So he was in a hidden run crash as reported a source at the c. reported that terrace shaves black McLaren plowed over a parking meter that slammed into a tree in studio City, California around twelve thirty on Tuesday. But the real kicker was that tariffs was in a pasture seat in a Doherty's alleged that it was unknown female who actually crashed a car. Now, tears as his girl is confirmed that she wasn't in the car. So everybody will is pretty much alleged that he was. He had a side chick, whatever it, which kinda surprises me Caceres as always been too good guy, like always perceived them to be to guy. Being on one, oh, six park. Don't safe word, you know, being this little positive. I I didn't know. No, you never AJ all I could say more about AJ, tears. Jane look, tears j. look lead when he I was on six apartment. He was kinda like that. But then when he found himself. Yeah, got star in. I definitely see only. Only he's always that. He always seemed like, you know, he was rear, you know, road, you know, humble down to earth a real genuine type do. I mean he's kinda come, you don't. He comes off that way just because not he's not corny, but he's not like, no, he's never been like the corny guy. He just been like very humble. Yes, very, you know, law so far too. You know, I always kinda. So he's always had the good mood kinda guy, real mellow guy. I've never, I say this. I never seen him in a in a light light such as a what else say unless the prize because I seen the transformation he made from when he first joined all sorts of to how he was at the end of those two different territories. Like it was like that attention. Not like he changed. You wouldn't that same proxy changed them. Roxie changed him. He was even different Roxy from the beginning to Roxy at the end. Like all that start does it. I mean shit. Yeah. I mean, we all know will we are know Roxie from being on a radio here, Argo route. Why didn't over from being on really Roxie demand? Mommy, you'll remember that no other remember her being on once. A little bit. And then the situation she was in when it came to Lisa raise ex-husband Ali end the situation with that she was fucking around with him. Yeah, that going back to this, his his wife. No, yet his girlfriend. I'm sorry, his girlfriend. I'm sorry. I thought he was made, but not. He's got a girl. She says she went into car. Basically what she was saying in, she's going to stay off social media for few days to stay focused work, which tells me that you had another woman there in. So I mean, but at right, I mean, you don't look. They don't look good at all. I mean, we've all been situations where we will do another raw is din look, right? Oh, man. Look good to to air. Have I been narrow gun wasn't a smart mood? Yeah, does look foul, put yourself in a situation. I really go off at end and just as soon as he end scientifically I'll give him the benefit of doubt. I give him the benefit just because you gave him the benefit. You'll the benefit of the doubt. Now the if it is a side shake, I can't say that on not surprise are that'd be the worst way to get coffee. Once you give money my style and you start to make money you in, you get t. v. Vedran yet McClair. So that's sure yet epilepsy thrown into like a rate. That'd be the worst onto give money in all of that in let the outside tation, if if win. I don't know if it will say if it was assigning I got kicked out the car. If it was car accident, I'll turn on Rome because I'm not gonna take the hit for that accident. May even fuck of my rates for sure. The one that's driving. I'm just gonna have to take that air. Look, I'm much. I rather take the rate takes the Ehlo. They give off finding demar. Sure is going sky high. 'cause I driving a McLaren. McClair in a win, let nobody else drown dash you the handling keys. If I was sued drug, we just over. Doc, Karl cars, they right. They're not no. If that is true, you tries to dot as the worst way possible to get caught solicited to these emails right here. Oh, wow. This doesn't is crazy. This one, he, he didn't give a name so you wants to keep it anonymous. So we just give them a name garett Derek, sounds five. When me Dave says, I went to the doctor the other day because of pain in my stomach might have been belly button. Washington, haven't you. Dirty dirty as bellybutton. Right. Do. Shit. It's her out to be the result of sexually transmitted infection. I was told the utterly shot at been with my wife since we were nineteen years old and I've never cheated on her were both thirty four now I could front my wife and she claimed that she had got drunk except with some guy. She met in the nightclub when I was away on a business trip month ago, she insisted it was a one off in when happen. Again. I believe her until a neighbor x. me to check my cameras. My out cameras are on our home after incident with his car, and I saw my wife come home. One of my friends, they turned out they turned up around midnight and didn't leave until nine AM. The next morning I am devastated. I confronted my wife again and she says she couldn't bring herself to tell me that it was my friend. I do not know what to do. I haven't told my so-called friend. I know what happened. What's your vice. That nigga that's on news. What else? Say, Osbone shoe that ain't you for a while. Hang out which friend for a little bit. And then out of nowhere, just give him a good to peace. And then when he bro inter nigga unique. I ain't no sin with my wife sleep. My wife. You gave her a fucking STI at this show. Now I got, I got a fuck you up. Fuck you up. Just on principle. Principal alone do pose will be my friend. I'm fucking you up right now. I've out tell actress after fucked move. If any day pose the till you, he posed until you man your wife coming onto me, I full accountable even if you could, even if he could tell you that out as a friend out of this stay away way going time out have been around your wife is when I'm in the company with you. Right? And we out and I'll be accountable because you know you, you tell you your boy, your wife is they don't turn it on you, but but you mean why faint late, but so stay away with. Okay. Don't wanna check your kid on one thing right. But check your camp. Dan us look retold. The wrote the trust that a out I win. She can came back from I. She couldn't came back like I want to stay with it because it's like he was. I national aren't liked to my, oh, man, it was, you know, it was at the club and I was missing. You go overnight. I thought this is like the end is like, I don't even know because you you'll conscious kicked in. It was like, you know, I got let you know something you fucked up. No, I only know. 'cause you gave me, and as you said on the night, that's the story bad do was clean. I want even know it was Nagorno. Right? Like gig about the circumstances looked up all he looked up on. Not to say they get net transmitted. Shit was luck yet. He got evidence of it. Then followed by something happened with his neighbor that he needed to look at it. That's it is a lot of those, right? Yeah. You you go real look, you, will you go? Real lucky zaslov said he'd lucky that that neighbor needs. All is certain only if that car didn't like have they had a situation with the car day whenever? No, ROY. The friend, right? If he never looked at me, he knew she cheated ROY known that is. No, that is laying can yet because by that point yet he let us go. It wanted to. You got to get a loan. I will leave that. I will leave the name question. I will lead up gas. Zone says she eagle start. No, let's you to say the 'nother business trip. Banshee, she the fuck your friend on she somebody else. Yeah, she ain't gonna do it at the house. She won't do it somewhere else that Cushing Shang channel. Yeah, you don't want that on your mommy, get paranoid this shit about the next time you've mixed business trip via she might be Ryan. You gotta worry about if you go castle shit again. Yeah, you know what I'm saying now that you probably can't riddle right now, man to get out of angel. Bitch may leave that anytime. Oh, man. Le- let that letter no Roe look. You save. You really deserve anything that come with that because you know, honestly. Yeah, you know. So you stay then you know you made a decision at live with that decision in. I'll made us gotta know you gotta you gotta guy out there who's already been tightened that. Oh, you gotta forgot what you want, but we're saying, yeah, divorce that she knew what you gotta do and foot that nut to definitely gotta. Fuck new Osho danger, friend at all show was money, Joe, why she'll wife now to take that you met like a week ago, a wife, thirty four bonuses nineteen. Yeah. Like really any probably known known him for that loan to, you know what I'm saying right? As she could adjust possibly said it was just that one night. Cheetah's always light Saddam were. She just got caught that run. It was just one time like bushes. 'cause you lie before? She lied about dude air in the firm. I'm sorry, bro for the power though. Often the pollen. All other fun about this. If she telling the truth that they went to club the night, she Campbell being seen in public with the bigger hole. Going to close together. This crash, she do do dirt in the street. Ryan. The say, note, meet you at the motel is like, now we going out to. I'm gonna parade. You can see, I'm showing you all home. I suspect she is disrespectful. Fuck he has to. You got up by by on principle of all big about everything he went out to the club wear. Right? He knew too. That's. Where your clothes. Uh-huh. Shrine, Leo bellybutton. Go, you been kissing her, oh my God. Almost none. Oh, that is grimy. They vote grimy ass people. Oh my God. Yeah, we'd much life you don't need divorce heard, fuck him up. Let him watch. Allow let him much like to have. Slot of state, we can save you. Don't you ego say, no, we can also. Yeah, I'm I actually apologized thus Rousset there. We added all to your. We did. I shouldn't who reside. Thanks please. Forgive. I point pot Jimoh dot com. Back, let us know which did the shit out, send us man for real. All right. So this is from a Viansa avion. Sows are. My video. Okay, sir. I mean, just lay. Pose though always. No. The last year you might as well play the little thirty seconds. Are you silent? You good. This is from Aviano AVI honor. Whichever one forget I'll apologize of which one it is. Good. Aviano I'm, I've been seen a great guy for few months. He's a lot of fun in life is never dull when he's around a problem is there are a few things in my past that I don't like people to know about naturally. I've told him everything, but it's not stuff. I won't to become a knowledge in a nutshell. I worked as an escort for short time to make some money quickly in fund my studies after failing are fallen out with my parents. It was a means to an end in, I'm not proud of my boyfriend said he didn't change the way he felt about me and has been totally cool with it to the point of making jokes when we're with his family, who I could sell our bid amused by the whole thing affects, oh embarrassed. Even though I laughed at it, I laughed it off at the time to save face. It's really upsetting me. He kinda broke the trust between us in. I feel disappointed in him and I can't. Thinking escort stuff bothers him more than he's leading on a, how do I do this? This really harkens back from earlier in the podcast about sex work. I mean he pulled had come sent. I'll say up having on me. Who says, you know, the person asked him to girls business like that family or not. If x court, I don't. I don't have to tell you that she was a mess. Business. Those one of those call her one day we found lately, oh, su- Billy. I didn't know that job was an escort ally, first of all, hey. Shit already paid. Thus where he will tell he known of tell us tight him. I'm how all jokes in the world says. Racial to me. Ledin Alicia right now. I don't know. This one is really interesting because we never been in situations like this before. I think he was real honest as long for making jokes about. You know, especially in front his family by ACA cosc- jokes between you UN him as like like together. So Big, Joe. Use the buzzer. Perfect time of your life. You needed them schoolbooks bed. Didn't you? Live burn? Was you at the slow walk. Chata reclaim the where. Does what. The kids while where she was video. Radio, but. Seat in the same. She told him right at hurt that she didn't think she told him that how, how Joe cycles and not only that, but she's disappointed in him, but, but if she don't tell them next time around his family, you'll do it again because he don't know that. Yeah. Or should they might do it because this normal NS. Okay. Wrote because he learned the have. So yeah, he got a, he got a stop the dive, I, I'm this Hatay care. I don't think he respects you at all. 'cause if he bribes, if he did, I don't think you brought that up to fam- like I'm not going to bring that up to them and make jokes. Said he could say y'all, hey, girl was a next score. That'd be the end of it, but I'm not gonna make jokes about it or whatever our new I would say, oh, Umbrian little. That would never. They never know. It really depends on the person, but I don't think he respects you enough to just a joke about it, lack of see you telling like family, like real personal family, like mother and father. Your mother and father told him, you know, you're cool with it so that if I'm cool with y'all need to be cool with the two with it, but I'm not making jokes about it though either. So I don't. You know, that's just a, it's just a respect thing. As far as that goes for me in my opinion. But like Rhys you need to let him know that you don't like that at all you don't. You personally don't think that you know that shit ain't cool for you make for you to make jokes about it and not have to say face in front of your whole FAM. You know. You know, you said, do that should now do that yet? Not in cool at on, he should know that. But if you don't know that you gotta let him know to, you know, saying. You know, saying our people were people are done, so it sounds like common sense. But, hey, you know, oh yeah, you're right about that. Anything on all pretty much self response. What that is. The end of the emails might their extra point, prodigy mode dot com for emails in inklings did that if us in the backyard, Rigby miss nothing this coming up, nobody birthdays come. Oh, thank you. Forget. Well, I was about to say why she said they coming up shot out. We been on the show. Have you say ERO I'll EROs birth as LA today. Both they air out. I shot off the air. Oh man. We preach mid will Apso fifteen. I, I'm surprised I remembered that far. No, he wasn't. He will. I will. But he was like in the teens, deaf life, teen or sixteen during. Remember that. But yeah, shot the air. Oh, man, happy birthday, man. What easy? Like twenty one out of here. You know funky. Kick you as yard. Shot the aero man. I'll have any birthdays coming up besides my own, which is in two weeks shutout other net, I think that's it. But the nose like think of recruit almost saying, shut out some big, present Dame him and his wife ahead. They second baby three weeks ago. I missed episode of course. I couldn't, you know announce it, but you know, shout outs to her cute. Maloka will bitcoin shut out. Gregory somehow another this into the MAC frame. She's the youngest McDonnell now, so got we keep fig inning to do looming carpet profiting. We keep different to do it, but we all get to. It's like is fine is only been like a week. For more than we know. More, not less, right. You're right. You're right. And we'll get to visually on the net, a clean belly belly-buttons everybody in. As far as everybody else a clean, you sales before you have sex this, you know, that's their, don't. Their door. You know, it was cool if you. I mean if you just walk into door just, you know, take brawl. We've got to do this thing ladies. We gotta do that or Fred, you try to kiss just remind him which credit score is first. He said that's for damn sure. Let this laugh. This line amidst for the. Ocean talking to him of trumpeter. How how did I was like of again, just trying to also to the stakes again because a finding, like I got somebody's gonna look at me the way Tristan Thompson, look at his side chicks then. Dot dot? The fray and looks at a script accredit school, six fifteen. Dot dot? The way Trump looks at a Mexican deported. I had a good laugh. Text me about the video him can have. That was fun. Oh yes. She special. I really did have a good laugh at the I was alive. If anything else. Apple podcast. Google play our average podcast. We are there deported. All podcast, Instagram t. p. o. a. underscore podcast on Stitcher, radio, I heart radio. Also. She media Facebook into eter. Read pointed at all podcast. Follow us on Twitter, you know, we are there and scream also. So as NO Snapchat is still Snapchat at foams got about that to get you off dealing on news on the snap to the the to boiling Kerr's will does not like the whole time we have to show any of us gun in. So yeah, it's not as you just you, but we've promoting you on. I just got news comes after you should that, but is anybody get news? The gentleman was, yeah, that gentlemen will get nudes. Oh, he's such a gentleman or one wholesome alone. Listen, it's Lee. You haven't got a new look that they everybody lighter. I have a quick. All right for my. For myself to remember for to ours, which we never do anymore. But the guy on not. It just something that comes out mud. Two hours now is wrestle realization after you. This is the point of it. All podcast. Maybe seeing guys next week, romance, rebels. Can we keep the. Who safety, so don't go shoot. Bush trying to pay me a numbness to making. The. Creating. This is still. The case. Anti-gay. Tabby. Digging. That. Rabin. Me. Did you. 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206 - Spatula City

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

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206 - Spatula City

"This is exactly right Welcome my favorite murder. Go Buy at finished three times a charm. Oh aw man hello hi. Welcome Hammer their Oh what if I do sound effects pouring water right now. While that's an aggressive aggressive water-poor pinks wait. What about this one? That's an another aggressive restaurant and a glass that no one even wants to. Yes you do it every waters starting to see if I can get boring and it's just splashing all over the place This is a true crime podcast And welcome do you have anything this week. A couple of things to chit chat about woody a business. You'd like to know I hi drew a heart on my paper. I have nothing to talk about well. Valentine's Day is coming Adler right around the corner. Start working on those Valentine's you're going to send out Do you when you were back when you were single Just an incredible amount of dog hair on my sweater right now. Didn't even do a pass on it before I left the house. It's this is like I. I almost came in my pajamas. Might as well go from our car to here and go back home or ideally Stevens. The only one that ever sees us. That's right and each other and each other. I was GONNA ask you if that every year when we were single. Did you get excited about Valentine's Day as a single person. Do you remember the experience. I guess because my friends were usually really single too. So we'd go. I'll go out and did you ever have Valentine's Day hookup No but I met a future ex-fiancee on Valentine's today same with me. That's the first data ever went on with my ex was on Valentine's. Wow that's bold but it wasn't planned that way it was kind of like lead up to and it's like well. Do you want to go to this day on Friday. Yeah and I don't think I don't know if either of US real I certainly didn't realize it was Valentine's Day Shar and then I was kind of like wow. This is a scam. Because it's just like any other night when I'm on this date I'm excited about right. It's still just regular life. Yeah so what. Are you going to do for Valentine's I'd say this year is that a Tuesday. I'll record on Valentine's Day hard. That would be. That would help me a lot. I true we we don't we don't even as a not single person. We don't really do anything. For Valentine's Day it's an auction noxious. It's a Friday but I'll record that commission it's Thank you that's very give to. Many's that forever. Yeah No. I think it's just like the it's New Year's -I in that way where you're set up to fail. You'll beats appointed by nothing expectation very few people except for like super goofy thirteen year olds like Roy and the drama department are the only ones really giving Valentine to anybody in a meaningful way. Yeah Yeah I think most people are kind of like it. There's romances dead. Could I even say it. Yeah at least it is for me. Let me chocolates and flowers on every other day burks for Valentine's Day. I mean I feel like also this. In this day and age. Valentines days was up ended by social media. Where every day is Valentine's Day if you want it to be and you're willing to like slide into someone's de own sure you can? You can send a little Valentine's simply by acting like you WanNa talk to somebody in whatever. The context canal anti-noise day every day. Karen's message to you. DM's are closed What do you what do you have Oh just that I'm going to give the outsider report first of all. I'm loving the fact you've opinion this week. No Go yes okay. I'm loving the fact that I've I. I've read multiple outlets media outlets calling it. The outsiders like since the movie from nineteen eighty. Three it makes me laugh so hard. It's yes see Thomas Sowell is back so this TV shows called the outsider singular It's not about a band of Ragtag boys on that live on about side of town fighting reading. So she says it's a and this most recent one that I watched all of a sudden Stephen King Came into it and I was like Oh but it was really believable and cool and not you know the spy the giant Spider Queen. That lives in the sewer type. Shit you have a corrections corner from last week do I yeah. It is it about Cameron Britain. It's not camera Britain. Damn it. Yeah you know it's funny because when I I just was listening that that was a Minnesota right. Aw Nodding yes it was the main cause we were talking about the haunted house. A haunted right What's funny ideas? I was just listening to that little part on my drive over and the way I'm going it's he's such a good actor doesn't look like it's way shorter than him. Voice sounds is different and I was like listening to. It's like almost a different parades into different person. It's like that's how much I believe in Cameron Britain. I'm going to get the word out. I think he's good. He's a great character. Actor can do it. A hurry wants he has range. He has a totally different person. He could be completely different. Towns Actor My doctor's name but we should give them extinct me. Look it up here. Meanwhile here's my luck. Correct therapist actor on the outsider singular killer boring over. It really is fucking boring. What yeah I don't understand what you like in what you say about? What do you like? I couldn't even get through. Cheer not cheers lawyers. Here's I love every season. Not The cheers Albani. Ah Cheer Albania. That's the one about cheerleader. Yeah leading everyone's obsessed with it. It was boring. I feel like the everyone is obsessed with it is my indicator. I won't like it. The Guy The herkie guy is on it who invented the Herkie is is his last name. Herkie it's like Hercules or something. Nerve is George George. Bush junior and Angelina no you. I think you would actually really like it to me. It just stress me out a lot. There's too many expectations. And there's too many people who have like they're fucking entire heart and mind on the line body. The I feel like I've been been shown that your show all my Liasson show how I can't be thrown in the air you stories therefore I'm not good enough and I'm tired of. It could be some of them are fliers that fly up in the air and there's some are tumblers and some are the ones that hold the other ones and they need those just as much as I don't WanNa be and I know hold some small girls someone hold me with. The motherfuckers is what she wants. Valentine's Day thanks to bring him back. I want I want to do an aerial triple Lutz. Lundy Gray in the in the air and then have some George Bush looking motherfucker. The judge me okay so not cheer. You're saying no to the outsider. It's okay very slowly pace. Yeah but have you gotten to the part where there's the new investigator because she is quite something but I don't like the guy the guy in it who was played by Mendelssohn Ben Mendelsohn listen. I don't like him he he fucked up royally real bad and got some fucking kill no spoilers and he's told guys when we're talking you it gets and now is like has this like oh I have to fix this right. Can you just leave it alone and let everyone else take care of it. 'cause you fucked up already. Yeah there's always be the good guy I when I think he's a piece of Shit Yes for sure. There's not enough people and they're the lawyer that played the detective in re talked about that which I was right about a but that guy does try to hold his feet to the fire but they only do it for like two lines he supposed to be this. Like what's the word character. Like sad protagonist. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah maybe no well let's see Yeah okay Look we're still unless we're we're giving our actual opinions on the show which I think that in and of itself is valid because as my pen says get to fuck you not a great Japan. It's kind of Nice with golden black and really great block letters that just says fuck you thank you so much our listeners. A give as gifts constantly definitely given happened to me my murdering. That's CLA class. All right. Should I reach back into the Penn thing and just see what depend I grab says. Oh Vic right. What does that mean? That's the new insult. Well you you talking big. Yeah Yeah Belk pay permit profile. What's it's a good murder? Yeah I don't think we have not much business that we're back we're back into the making of this show in the constant way. We're not on tour no break so now we're we're just doing it on the weekly. I have no idea from week to week what murderer I'm going to do. Please continue to. We should have Denton. Put a spectacular in the on the website where you can suggest suggest martyr. And then they just he sends him directly to us. Because I need so you need them from six sources. 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And we still haven't young still haven't done it I was going to do the story in Chicago but it was a live show. It's so dark rough but there's a great spin on it because I had found this article that was written in the Chicago Tribune by a writer named Eric. Zorn's orange for the thirtieth anniversary of This terrible tragedy taking place and he did he wrote the story it from the point of view of one of the children. That was there that day who is now in his thirty s and an adult and tells his own story. So what is it. It's that Lori. Dan and the Winnetka school shooting off officer of nineteen eighty eight. I know this one. It is very similar to the The I don't like Mondays school shooter that you did remember. Remember her name off via but it's another female That was a teenager. That shot up though. Yeah well So I think it's because it was so some similar to that that I was like I'm positive Georgia did. This is because I keep thinking of that one that you did so Sherry suggested it in the Fan Colt and then so it's a twenty only eighteen Chicago Tribune article from a writer named Eric Zoran but then also it's wikipedia and of course murder pedia than has the comprehensive so this takes place may twentieth nineteen eighty eight so eight year. Old Peterman row is sitting in his second grade classroom at Hubbard Woods Elementary School in the wealthy north shore suburb suburb of one ACA Illinois. And he's super excited because today is bike tests day. And what that means. When you're in the second grade you get to go you go to school school and then outside go and take a bike safety test like a driving test and then if you pass that and then you go inside and take the written test? uh-huh just like driving. Yeah if you pass about those tests you get to ride your bike to school by your cell phone and he was so right of passage yes and and also it's such a smart thing to do back then when it's like. Will you WANNA do this but we have to make sure you know the roles and you basically keep yourself say. Yeah so they set this whole thing up and Peter was super excited even though he lived across the street from the school door. It's the cutest so they had already been outside. They did the bike test test outside. He passed that now. He's inside. They're taking the written test and a all. The kids hear a commotion and basically the next thing. Peter knows he's on on the ground and then everything goes black when it comes to. He's crawling down an empty hallway the school hallway by himself with an intense pain in his hand and then when he looks down at his hand he sees it's covered in blood and then when he looks closer he realizes there's a hole in his hand God and he's really scared he's really confused. He's he's in pain he thinks is maybe a safety drill and then he also it flashes through his head that maybe this idea that the school janitor who he very much much likes and respects came into the classroom and shot him with a fake gun like a safety drill. Now he's can't he can't put it together yeah he starts to feel cold and tired and then he looks up and he sees an adult step into the hallway and he sees a terrified look on the adults face as the adult looks at him. The adult picks him scoops him up. Brings them into a first grade classroom. All the kids are staring at Peter. He just wants them to stop looking at him all the sudden he just wants his mom he starts crying and the next thing he knows. He's back in his second grade classroom and the paramedics are running through the door at him and they surround him and he's like okay great. Finally they're GonNa fix this hole in my hand but they instead I'll start concentrating on his stomach and he doesn't understand because his stomach feels cold and numb there's nothing wrong with his stomach and then he realizes that there is something wrong with this stomach and he loses consciousness again and when he wakes up. He's an ambulance. The paramedics are talking to him. He tells them he's cold and he's really tired and he just wants to go to sleep. The paramedic says you cannot go to sleep. Keep talking to me but he goes to sleep anyway roll and then when he wakes up. He's in the hospital. There are tubes coming out of his stomach and there are tubes going into his nose and he sees all these bandages that are on his stomach and later on when the bandages are pulled off he'll see staples covering the stomach where his his stomach was basically being held together because it had been blown open His parents are there. They explain to him what happened they tell him. A mentally ill. Woman came came into his school and shot up his classroom and his classmates and that woman's name was Lorrie Dan. Okay so we'll start with lorries early life. She's she's born in Chicago on October. Eighteenth nineteen fifty seven. She grows up in glencoe. She's the only child of an accountant father And a house maker mother and she is a shy and withdrawn child. So it's not that much is known a that I that I know about her childhood but I think this is very indicative. Thing is when she's older. Her parents offered a pay to get her plastic surgery which apparently helps boosts her confidence? But it's a little bit about like this is how you deal with. Cheyenne withdrawn child's. which is a little bit upsetting? Laurie isn't a very very good student. In High School. She does manage to graduate from High School in Winnetka in nineteen seventy five and she goes on to attend Drake University in Des Moines Iowa. where she he is equally unsuccessful but she wasn't really there to get an education? Her plan was just to meet a rich man and get married. Mrs Degree Yeah R S degree morass. Rs Yeah so she doesn't. It doesn't happen for her at Drake so she basically gets her grades up so she can transfer to the University of Arizona because Sir all the good men are GonNa get married you got a university of Arizona and then if you WANNA party you go to the Asu and that now. I'd like remind everyone of still my favorite twitter bio that I've ever read is don't be fake bitch and you can party with me at. Asu remember that one. No does that real a yes. I found I can't remember. It was like some girl that made a comment on something and then I looked at her bio that was her twitter by twitter bio and. It's real amen. Yeah don't be a fake bitch and you can party with. ASU Ill in the blink of AFC whatever is going on in your life. Asu is like the Arizona State University of life. That's right that's that's me in. That is my real bio yeah yeah. Sick effect pitches okay. So her new plan is she's going to become a a teacher so at University of Arizona. So she actually starts focusing on that and soon. She meets a Pre Med student. And then they start dating which is how it works? Focus on yourself. My Mom's friend in college you know it was like sixty or seventy whatever. She got a job in the medical library so she can meet a doctor to marry. Did it work at sure did I. I know I'm not like the others. Yes but I have never of all the things I've obsessed about in what I wanted. What I wanted to do it marriage was never ever on the be famous takeover? Do this do that a like that idea. I just don't relate to it. We're a new breed where it was always like just Mary. Well you'll appreciate it. Did you see that one interview is shareware. Per She shared some interviews her or she goes My mom always said I should marry a rich man and I said to her mom. I am a rich man yet. I'm amazing yeah that's what it is. My Dad used to say he would watch things on the news and same You better marry a doctor and my mom was like bullshit. Become a doctor and it was like how about I become a drug addict and to stand up. Comedian without work for everybody. PODCAST or man. Is that like a doctor for you. PODCAST or something new doctor you okay so Laurie. In in nineteen seventy seven transfers than to University of Wisconsin at Madison. And although she and her boyfriend still dating Laurie the longer they go out the Laurie. Laurie gets more and more possessive and kind of erratic in her behavior so they ended up breaking up in nineteen eighty. They go out for kind of a while but it falls apart and I think that too is a little bit indicative the thing of moving. It's just like yeah. Just keep on moving colleges. That'll keep getting away from your whatever's whatever's going on with you and the problems that are coming up you just keep starting over keep starting over. So after the break-up she moved back in with her parents and she starts taking classes at northwestern. Turn to try to finish her degree but she never graduates so while she lives at home she gets a summer job as a cocktail waitress at Greenacres Country Club with Brooke pointed at me when when you say cocktail waitress has it made me think of the Medical Library. Oh has seen. That's a good way to meet people. his smart. That's where she meets an executive -secutive an insurance brokerage firm named Russell. Dan and that you hit it off. He's from a wealthy highland park family and basically he's everything. Laurie dreamed of Essential Wallet with two cartoon. Legs I wrote but I mean that's what it seems like. It sounds like they get married in September of nineteen eighty two and they moved into a beautiful home in highland park. But Laurie's behavior becomes more and more erratic in strange Even though it's been her dream to get Mary she shows no interest in this new house that he buys for her. She doesn't try to decorate it. She never cleans it instead she sits in front of the TV for hours and hours hours. Let's not judge when she does do the laundry. She was such a strange detail. She folds the clothes while they're still soaking wet and puts them. It's wet clothes into the drawer. Leaving them to mold. So that is likes such a weird little detail that you think everything's normal around here la La la And then that happens to be like Oh fuck also. That's it's a specific thing like I have a real fear of moldy towels and moldy like leaving leaving stuff because I always forget that I wash something and then the next day I'm like and I have to wash again. Yeah so that idea that she's just kind of like whatever. Here's what you want me to do like asking the dry out together. The mole grow that fast. Because I don't do that you don't do well if I forgot it for the day I'll just throw in the dryer that just to into your taste of if you can smell it or not and it'll come out the next time you wash it but I mean yeah if you put in soaking wet that's so that's a that's a telltale sign on things flags flags are popping up She also is very careless with money literally throwing dollar their bills in the backseat of the car. Like it's trash. It's just kind of like nothing's real russell loves Laurie but he's slowly realizes there's something really wrong with her her and he's not equipped to help her so they separate in October of nineteen eighty five so he gets an apartment for himself Lori moves back in with her parents and then a bitter divorce battle ensues Lori claims that Russell was abusive to her. He starts receiving threatening phone calls. He says lorries stories the one behind it. She denies it. So it's very. He said she said in the beginning like eighties divorces were particularly hardcore. So I I think because they were so new. Yeah I remember a time where it was late seventies very early eighties. All the sudden. Everyone's parents got divorced all at once and I kept every day. I just so you're gonNA get divorced now. Like any slight bump. Yeah because it was like Oh this is the new normal. And everyone's doing it and I'd say what about save their marriage that you reminded them that they could do it so be nice to each other Omi both own me. I also think it would just spe- so like a lot of those stories where it was like. Suddenly one of the one of the parents it was often the father it'd be like oh I just I I just need a new version. Just enter younger new version and then all the sudden it'd be like I have a friend whose dad married a girl that was a couple years older than him like like went to his high school. Like how grows. What do you mean with a couple of a couple of our thought? You meant the dad you. Within the Sun Parents got divorced and and then say ten years later. His Dad's like here's my new fiancee and it's a girl that was like a senior when he was a freshman stuff like that. You're just Kinda like now. I just think you're grow like you can go do the you do. You live for your own life and be happy. But there is an impact Dang look at me podcast. Look at the impact impact. But your parents your mom just recently got remarried right. Yeah Yeah No. Neither of them ever dated at talk but neither of them got remarried until originally until recently. Which I'm glad okay so lorries Living at home with their parents her behavior gets more and more bizarre She's obsessed with personal oh hygiene. She washes her hands compulsively. She won't let anyone touch her for fear of germs And this kind of thing where this is now. Her parents adult daughter so they can only do. They're like you know when when these things started the behaviors start getting more and more pronounced there. They asked her to check into hospitals and she. You just won't do it it. So the answer's always no April nineteen eighty-six. Laurie claims that Russell broke into her parents house where she was living vandalized it. There's no proof of that. Ah but she uses that incident to justify buying Smith and Wesson three fifty seven magnum for self-defense. The police get involved because they know lorries history so so far and both the police and her parents try to convince her to get rid of the gun but she won't do it in August eighty six. Laurie starts making harassing phone. Calls to the ex boyfriend that she dated the MED student. Oh Wow who is now. A resident at a hospital in Tucson She tells him she gave birth to his child which he knows isn't true because they haven't seen each other in five years when he says he doesn't believe her about the birth of their child. She calls the hospital that he's working king at as a residence and tells them he raped her in the emergency room. Oh my gosh she goes to fuck and Defcon one. Yeah like like immediately. And so she starts also sending him letters she continues the phone calls And then she begins to include death threats to him and his family recalls and the and the letters a finally the ex-boyfriends lawyer sends Laurie's parents. A letter telling them they need to control Lori and that's that's when she finally stops harassing him. In September of nineteen eighty six of the same year a month later she stops harassing the ex boyfriend and then Her exhusband Russell reports being stabbed with an icepick while he was sleeping one night and the ice pick missed his heart by an aunt. My God uh-huh he survives. He tells the police he didn't get a good look at the attacker but he knows it's Loria. The police can't find any witnesses. Who saw Laurie or anyone else? Enter earlier Russell's apartment that night But they do find a store clerk. Who witnessed laurie buying an ice? God but that's it's the only piece of evidence that they have to prove that she was the attacker a good piece of evidence. Yeah it's pretty solid. But when they give Russell polygraph test he fails it so they you just have no choice but to let Lori Go. Because it's circumstantial evidence. She bought a nice pick. I guess you would use an ice pick more often in the mid west I know they're deers ice. Picks is it only ice like social drinks ice. Do you use ice picks lowering winging windshield. I cracked windshield this morning. Sleep for work. I only lived in southern California. Orange fucking clue how that shit work. I do know that sometimes the is like just just the rubber part of the squeegee and like I know there's like it looks like a you you know spatula. Yeah like the chipper things bachelor city imagine living in like a place where it fucking strip. There's places right now in like that that that that have so much snow right now like snow piled guys were sorry for is it's like we can't relate. It was like a cute sixty seven degrees as today and they're they're like huddled around a fire burning in the middle of the room for some reason they don't have a fireplace because it's okay there are huddled up by the podcast player. They're wireless speaker that they're all rubbing their hands Over trying to get some warm watching the those the wireless speaker. Because that's what you do thing stare at it okay. So now. It's January in nineteen eighty seven lorries starts working babysitting jobs. Ono has two quick update. She's Thirty K.. So which is not like you can't. That's probably when you get it really good at babysitting to being a teenager. The worst on it but Clearly she's just trying to. I think hold onto some semblance of normal life and behavior so she a woman hires her and to her Lori seems nice like she's just Kinda shy And the woman even recommends Laurie to other families and so Lori begins babysitting for a bunch of people And it's kind of seems like she's pulling it together then the trouble starts these family family. Start noticing there leather. Sofas have been slashed and that their rugs have been cut and the clothes food and garage door. openers are going missing missing some report. Some report these incidents to the police but again only circumstantial evidence. There's no proof. She's the one that did it. No charges are filed in one case lorries. Dad paid off the damages so the issue would just forgot now. So some. You know again red flags and and Laurie sending up these red flags of behavior like I can't be a normal society And the slashing of things cutting and slashing is things that are like going to you point to you clearly like. It's you're going to get caught for this thing right clearly you yeah. You still can't help but do it. And Yeah and yeah and maybe that's Hawaii doing it. Yeah so in. In April of nineteen eighty seven just before their divorce is finalized Lori Accuses Russell of raping her her so this is second third rape allegation. He denies it. There's no physical evidence but lori passes to lie detector tests. Yeah she also accuses Russell of trying to burn her house down in May of Nineteen eighty-seven no evidence of that obviously. She doesn't file charges against him for that. She starts seeing a psychiatrist who diagnosis her with. OCD and a quote chemical imbalance He puts her on drugs for. Are those things. But he tells police she's not a homosexual or suicidal threat okay. So lorries. Divorce is finalized In the summer of nineteen eighty. He's seven so the I guess the ideas she should go back like restart her adult. Let's go back to school so her father sublet an apartment for her on the northwestern. Th- Western campus. So it's like student housing. She is quickly asked to leave because reports role in of her leaving meet in her couch cushions to rot. And so it's stinking up her apartment and there's other accusations that she was stuffing the other students mailboxes with trash it does sound. OCD ISH OCD. And maybe a touch of schizophrenia. Ivan half boyfriend whose sister had a roommate who kind of had a nervous. I breakdown in college which I think is kind of when it asses when things are very stressful and we are young and also your brain is changing their brain. Chemistry is changing a lot. And she she. She said she was seeing meet coming out of the electrical socket law like that she was constantly trying to block them because she thought she could see that. Allow aw yeah the said that me. When that can't that detail came up in the story was like ooh that's interesting? Yeah it's like being a theme. It's a theme. So in January of nineteen eighty eight Lori moves back to Madison so she leaves town again. Tries it again. At the University of Wisconsin she starts taking classes. She she's she's she's sorry she enrolls in classes she never actually makes it to school instead. She just lives in the student housing as a recluse she it becomes known as the elevator lady because she spends hours and hours everyday writing up and down the elevator and at this point she's obsessed with good and bad numbers she's really locked into it. Sounds like some bad. OCD and And some ritualistic the ritualistic behavior of I have have to do these things whatever And she always wears gloves walks around naked a lot and all the trash and rotting meat in her apartment. Just be it just is crazy. Yeah so the march that year. She's arrested for shoplifting. She's released on on a two hundred dollar bond and they accept her into the first time offenders program which is kind of amazing considering this past she had with Iraq and all those accusations nations and all that that she's not she's not new to police action right or getting in trouble But her being in his first time offenders this program helps her avoid jail. Time later that month The one of the apartments in her apartment building is set on fire. Everyone knows that the elevator lady did it. But there's of again no evidence that she's involved so April of nineteen eighty eight. She starts up the threatening writing. Phone calls to our excellent Tucson again which part is like we all have the ex- you can't let go back to like. Yeah but we don't yeah you don't you don't literally go back. But it's like watching a person she doesn't have any capabilities to cope. She clearly has has displayed. I like pretty severe mental illness. That's that's maybe untreated civically. So she's just kind of doing these things that like. We all have the race to do and then are able to control it. Just that part of it makes me sad for anybody. That's in that position where you just kind of like can't help it. Yeah So threatening phone calls this time the FBI gets involved immediately. They find out. Laurie owns three guns. They can't confiscate them because she acquired acquired them illegally and Her Dad when they talk to the family her dad back up saying that she does need them for self protection against her ex husband. Yeah so on May fourteen thousand nine hundred eighty eight They're a student who lives in the same building as Laurie comes back back to his apartment to find all of his clothes and books destroyed. She suspected she's nowhere to be found that night an RA finds laurie in the garbage room of the building. Naked and asleep on a pile of trash. So there's an issue with new nudity garbage meet The writers tres trying things destroying things slashing things and setting things on fire. Yeah okay when the FBI comes the next day to question her about that Attack attack on that students stuff. She's gone so four days later. Laurie shows up at the home of the original families. Used to Babysit for she. They tell her. Oh were moving to New York so we don't need you to babysit anymore. Actually and she's like okay. That's cool. Is it okay if I come by tomorrow. And bring the two boys to the fair. And they're like. Oh yeah that sounds great because they have no idea what's going on in her life and it sounds to me. This is an assumption obviously and in just editorializing but if it's it's in kind of this wealthy part of the ship suburbs of Chicago which is like I'm pretty sure would netco or early that area. That's like the Ferris Bueller. That's where all of those John Hughes movies were big old houses big old lawns like rich. People doubts that work in the city. I bet you saving face and and not like the idea of having a mentally ill child was completely taboo right and a like made them this like you know Peo- cast Amil. Yeah or just at least the gossiped about so keeping a lid on that and keeping all of that like the stories about that Saving face for them And putting everybody else at risk. Yeah Yeah it's just horrifying so of course. The families like sure you can take our two young sons the fair tomorrow so Laurie shows up the next day. Okay which is may twentieth nineteen eighty-eight and she picks up there two boys and she's brought them homemade rice crispy treats and Milk and juice is to have in the car but when the kids taste that the milk it tastes super weird to them and so one Lori isn't looking they throw throw it away okay and they donate treats Turns Out Laurie. Also mailed These treats to some other families. She babysat for as well as fraternity fraternity houses on the North Western campus. But they all smell so bad and looked suspicious that almost no one eight any of it and later of course they were all tested positive for arsenic. Oh my God yeah so With the boys in the car and supposedly on the way to the fair. Laurie I makes a stop at Ravina school where she incorrectly believes her sister-in-law who's Russell's sister's children. Go to that school okay. She walks walks in and tries to detonate a firebomb in the hallway of the school. The fuck but if she essentially it's like she has a bag of I think in that one she had like it's something that was like a bag of gas. She lit it and walked away and basically some students came out into the hallway. And we're like there's a fire teacher comes and puts it out and it all goes away then. She heads over to a daycare center where the youngest child of this sister-in-law Either did go or she believed went and and she tried to walk into this daycare center holding a can of gasoline and at the entrance. There's a worker that's like hey get the fuck outta here with your gas. And so then she is denied entrance and walks away. She drops the to the boys back off at home. Who Good doesn't take them fair? Doesn't even try to take them to the fair but before before she leaves the family home she since she's but before she leaves the family home. She sets fire to the families basement. Staircase so she is she likes sets it on. Fire leaves the family discovers it. They're able to get out of the house time So everyone from that family is safe. And now Laurie heads toward Hubbard Woods School. and She's armed with three handguns. God so she walks onto the Hubbard Woods school grounds and she walks walks into a classroom and just wanders around a little bit and walks back out so this was the late eighty s when there was you know these days you can barely get near a school without the everybody being like. Excuse me I need three pieces of Idea of why you're here and most of the time if you're we're GONNA go like when I go to pick up nora or like when she was younger especially my sister would have to call her school and say my sister is coming to get her. Good Yeah Yeah. That's almost every school works these days so but not back then. Lorries able to walk onto the school campus. Walk into a classroom. Walk around. Walk back out when she gets out back back out into the hallway. She sees a boy in the hallway. She pushes him into the the boy's bathroom and shoots him and then she turns and there's two other boys standing standing in the bathroom warning that she aims the gun at them and pulls and the Gun Jam God and so she doesn't shoot those two boys she throws that gun into the garbage can and then she walks out and locks over into Peterman rose second grade classroom and she tells the teacher sees she's there to teach the kids about gun safety and she orders all the kids to get into one corner but the teacher won't do what she says following her directions. Like what the Hell you doing. And that's when when lorry Dan Pulls out a gun so the teacher immediately starts to wrestle it out of her hand and actually successfully does John and she is she takes the gun gets the gun away and as she's unloading it Lori pulls out her her final gun and opens inspire on the children in the classroom by the teacher is a fucking here. That teacher is a fucking champion. But I'm sure she I'm assuming it's a she. She also competes herself up for assuming that this lunatic only had one gun and such A. That's such a heartbreaking. Moment of. She was thinking I got i. Am Now we're okay yeah So including Peterman row. Six children are shot. Five of them critically injured injured and a sixth boy a very smart and well liked eight year. Old named Nicholas Corwin is killed so after that Lori flees is the scene in her car But then she actually turns down the street and gets caught. This the street has become a one way street because there's a funeral Y Caravan of thank you. A funeral. Procession is coming the other way so she throws it into reverse to try to pull a Chazz Palminteri uh-huh and drive backwards up. The street crashes into a tree gets out of the car and just starts walking through the woods okay and then she comes upon a house just a random house and walks inside and now we go to the hometown email from a woman named Gemma. Yes Hello Lady Stephen and co I'll get right into see well. One day I was chatting with my mom about how all my uncles her brothers met at their wives and somehow she revealed to me amazing I survived or the story of a family friend that involves in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight case of Laurie. Dann Shit I'm not sure if two of both of you are familiar with the story and I'm not GONNA lie. It's a bummer. Mostly because of this woman had just gotten the mental health she needed. None of this would have happened also definitely a story that my sixth grade teacher told the entire class probably contributing to my chronic anxiety than she recaps the story that I've just told you so. Basically we start with where I ended after the shooting. She wandered into the home of one of my uncles. Good Friends Still Andrew. Who was home from college? At the time he was twenty years old he was sitting in the kitchen with his mother that morning before. Laurie barged in still armed telling them that she had been raped and had shot her attacker. Fill in his parents having no idea what had it just happened. Two blocks away at the grammar school negotiated with her for about an hour. And a half Phil eventually convinced her to lettuce parents go so she's holding them hostage basically glacis. She's like in the house saying she needs help. But clearly I think that all falls apart a about five seconds so he basically take it takes an hour and a half to convince it's hard to let his parents go and then afterwards he tries to disarm her but she shot him in the chest he survives and ends up becoming a huge advocate advocate for gun. Control ended up becoming the Executive Director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun violence before eventually becoming a hostage negotiator for the FBI. The Holy Shit. Here's mom gets to the point. Phil convinced my uncle had joined the same organization after he'd been held up at gun point at an l.. Stop in Chicago ago. It was there that he met. My aunt who was just recently moved back to the city after her fiance had been shot and killed in an armed robbery in Ohio. They are now happily married. My God these. Two young people met each other after coming from these horrible violent experiences and then met and married at gun control at a gun control meeting. My uncle has since gone on to become a state. Senate senator where. He advocated for gun control and even helped pass passed legislation for my whole life. My uncle has been really supportive of me and whenever things don't work out he always says everything happens for a reason. No matter how cheesier Cliche at it sounds I think it's important to remember. That sometimes. Stay sexy and fight for what you believe in Jonah. Wow yeah wow so so basically. That's the story of Phil. Andrew and the Andrew Family who miraculously survived being shot in the chest. Yeah so basically after shooting up a grammar school and then shooting Phil Andrew in the chest. Laurie knows the house is surrounded. So she walks upstairs into this family's bathroom and shoots herself basically bringing her reign of terror to equally violent end. I feel like I say this so often but how I never heard of this. Yeah I I know it's really. It's just one of those shocking. I think it's one of those shocking explosion of violence stories that once people start looking at it. It's like Oh this has this actually was unfolding for at least ten years. Yeah Yeah for it happen. Yeah and also because it's a school shooting. That had one. I'm Tara had one victim. What tragically an eight year old victim but these days we hear about shootings that have twenty victims and we go? Oh yeah because it's now miss factor of this horrible fact of life. Yeah okay so then the aftermath Laurie. Laurie Dann Left. No suicide note. Oh no explanation. But it was clear that She was refusing to deal with severe mental illness It was attempted. She attempted to treat it and she was on some medication but clearly she needed to be hospitalized. Nearly she was in an extremely bad place. Ask and no matter what her family said no matter what anyone around her said she refused to get help after the shooting. The city of winnetka named a Park Hark in memory of eight-year-olds. Nicholas Coren who was the one fatality miraculously in that shooting and although The other children were were in critical condition for awhile all recovered So as just Nicholas Corman that was lost by and so I mean eight years old so tragic ask horrible so survivor. Peterman row is now in his late thirties. He's a licensed clinical social worker. How God's Word And a staunch advocate kit for gun. Control he still suffers from. PTSD and he's written a beautiful piece about the attack that you can read on. WWW DOT living living after trauma DOT COM and. His story is retold in Eric. Zorn's amazing article that was written on the thirtieth anniversary of the attack for the Chicago Tribune. And one of my favorite quotes from it. Is Eric Rights as we rage at the perpetrators and more in the dead. We tend to forget the survivors and then he basically goes on to tell Peterman rose whole story and his whole point of view of that day. And that is the tragic story of Laurie. 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So this is the murder of Bobby Franks by Leopold and Loeb. Oh yes right yes. Hi Hi and there's also a lot of information even though I fucking known about this forever. There's a lot of information I didn't know about so I think this is one of those stories. That's it's I feel the cases that are there's there's no reason behind it. Yeah aren't as interesting because it's like there because it it leaves you a such terrible feeling at the end and this one totally does that. It's just like sorry what you're what an what are you saying happened like this is unimaginable cold blooded and it's scary to think that there's people like that out there. Yes got INFO. From crime. RATES DOT com article by Nina Barrett the Chicago sun-times the Smithsonian an article by Simon Bought and also an article in the Jewish Standard Dot Com may twenty-first nineteen twenty four. Fourteen year old bobby be francs. He's the son of a wealthy Chicago. Watch manufacturer he leaves his after school baseball game and begins to walk three blocks home to his house. In the we can would estate neighborhood of Chicago so Kenwood estate is like fancy fucking schmancy. It's mainly Jewish neighborhood rich people mansions tens and in fact. The Obama family has a house that used to live there. Hoity fucking fans say and are you saying it was always Jewish. It's Jewish now. It was Jewish that at the time it was like a lot of Jewish of lot of wealthy Jewish families lived there. Cool which Bobby Franks is one of them When bobby wasn't the dinner his father Jacob Franks begins calling Bobby's friends and then looking around neighborhood for his son but bobby's nowhere to be found at about ten pm while Jacob? It was still out looking for his son. Home is why flora gets a phone call. Answers the phone and a man who called himself Mr Johnson tells flora the bobby had been kidnapped and to wait for a ransom letter the next day if they wanted to see bobby alive again and then hung up and then flora fainted straight up. I've I bet so at around eight. AM The next morning may twenty second. The frantic parents get a special delivery letter informing them that their son is still alive but they have to deliver ten thousand thousand dollar ransom that afternoon in order to keep him safe and to stay tuned for more information. Stay tuned. Well that's not it in a manner of speech. Sure so at the same time that Jacob Franks is at the bank withdrawing the money as instructed old twenty and fifty dollar bills twenty five miles south of Chicago Drain in pump worker walking home along a desolate forest preserve on the outskirts of the city. Notices a foot sticking out of nearby drainage pipe Walking walking closer he sees the naked body a young boy and with the help of some other men nearby he they retrieve the boy's body and call the police and the body is eventually actually. I D does that of Bobby Franks so far. We had large winced to his forehead into the back of his head which the medical examiner said it come from a blunt instrument tournament but they didn't cause the boy's death he also at large scratches on his back and what would turn out to be hydrochloric acid had been poured on his face and genitals finals after death to obscure any recognition of him. Okay it's after it's so horrible. The genitals because circumcision in how Jews get circumcised. Oh yeah wouldn't know who he was It was concluded that the boy most likely died from having a sponge or rag pressed into his mouth south. So awful on May twenty six five days after being kidnapped. Bobby Franks was laid to rest with Ada. Bobby's friends acting as pallbearers adrenaline. I know child Pallbearer. Yeah and these these kids you know. They're just they're little boys still thirteen year old photos of Bobby Franks. He's just a little little boy. So at this point the kidnapping and murder of a child from an affluent family of course becomes huge news and is on the cover of every every newspaper at the time society had it in their heads. That crime only affected poor people. There's this class warfare kind of going on where it's like. That happens to them and not us an affluent people live in this bubble. The they believed was safe from this kind of violence so it was really shocking. You know it's the kind of thing where that he had been a poor child or a child of color. It would not got any news at all. That's the the media doesn't it's the overt valuing of life in the equal way likely so found at the scene was a pair of Horn rimmed eyeglasses are found the Bank of the culvert they were they were Bobby Frank size so that detectives assume they belong to Bobby. His father was like he didn't wear spectacles. Thankfully that was caught. and and though the prescription and frame or really common like everyone fucking wore the same kind back then. The spectacles had an unusual hinge mechanism. That had only been purchased by three three customers into in Chicago able to trace us. Three people down. You gotTa love a clue like isn't that amazing and they were from. New York's that had go to New York find. I know there was like one store that sold those and then they had to go through their records to find who bought them. And Oh my God how exciting so good yeah And so one of those people who purchased just them was in nineteen year old named Nathan Leopold Junior. Okay spoiler alert. He's one of the killers so let limitation Nathan Leopold. Junior Nathan has also from a wealthy and well connected Jewish family in the Kenwood neighborhood. He lives a block away. His father was a businessman businessmen who had inherited a shipping company and made a second fortunate and aluminum can and paper box manufacturing. which who no big money? Nathan was a brilliant brilliant student. He enrolled at the University of Chicago at the age of fifteen. Oh Shit yeah he they said his IQ is something like two hundred. WHOA yeah I think at the time? I'm I'm sure it's measured differently than now. But he was an amateur ornithologist meaning. Here's into birds He had published two papers in the leading ornithological journal in the United States and he was currently studying law at the University of Chicago and had just taken his entrance exams for Harvard. Law School. Not Yeah so nuts he he was like doogie howser. Yeah but evil but bad. Yeah that detectives initially thought it was so absurd that someone as well off and accomplished as an eighth and could have had anything thing to do with the crime that in order to not embarrass the family and like draw attention Like to have the press coming in say. He's a suspect. They took him in for questioning winning. Instead at the State Attorney's office they took him to The Lasalle Hotel I mean privilege. It's and it's that thing of of The concern and care the goes into protecting the guilty If they have money. That's right. I mean this this is just how it is and probably will always be very specific like You know laws are put into place where it's just like. Yeah like you already made made made that point. But I mean that's like so far outbound. Yeah and that's also that thing of like. Oh that's Jerry's son. Yeah there's a lot of that you can definitely no that's is going. I mean at the same time though. It probably was still so surprising that someone with that pedigree and like that. That's smart intelligent hard-working that he went to schools. Could have done something like that. I'm sure they were like. Oh this is just a formality. We we just have to exclude you. Yeah so when questioned about his glasses being at the scene Nathan Leopold said that they might have dropped out of his pocket during a birdwatching trip the previous weekend which she wasn't there the previous weekend is some where he frequented a lot and so they check that out and they kind of didn't believe it and meanwhile state's attorney Robert Crowe Search Nathan's home and found nothing to connect them to the crime name but they did find a letter addressed to someone named Richard Loeb which was sexually graphic and homosexual nature When when Nathan? Here's Richard Loeb as his alibi for the kidnapping saying that the two had gone out looking for girls that night. He didn't not knowing that one of the letters had been found. Crow was suspicious because he was like. Well you're not into ladies. Guess what you know using that as an alibi doesn't make any sense. So they bring in Richard Loe for questioning. What a turn Okay don't tell you that low eighteen Richard Loe was also smart as hell. He had graduated from high school at fourteen years old and then entered the University of Chicago so his father was the vice president or vice president at Sears Roebuck and company. Like come on this is these people are made of money. That was back back when like this sears. Catalog was the only way anyone could get anything hopefully entire country. That's right Christmas present in that book it was Amazon. uh-huh yeah. It was the Amazon him on the day right. Richard was less ambitious than Nathan was he has. Grades weren't great. It seems like he just was born and didn't care and at the end of a sophomore year. He transferred to the University of Michigan where he spent more time he played cards. He was drinking. He just wasn't interested in class. He was also also obsessed with true crime. Oh weirdly and loved reading dime store. Detective novels yeah. Nevertheless he managed to graduate from Michigan and he was the youngest graduate. They're ever in nineteen twenty four. He was back in Chicago taking graduate classes in history at the university so Richard was is like this narcissistic assisted fucking ego maniac who everyone is attracted to. He's really attractive. He's really charismatic. Everyone is drawn to him. He's great at talking. He's outgoing You know the type yes whereas Nathan Leopold is a little bit more nerdy and like withdrawn. And Kinda Kinda hates people okay. I'm sorry but isn't this just like the sandy bullock movie with Ryan Gosling and Michael Pitt. Where they're the two guys and they she's the detective investigating them and it's the exact same set? Is it really. It's basically the exact same setup when she. She suspects that they are responsible for the death of a kid kid in their high school. What the fuck and then? But then she also I think What the Hell's that called? I wonder if that's if they did that no matter but it's kind of that thing. The of WHO's manipulating. Who because you think Ryan Gosling is the Alpha Ray charged but then then you're like but is it actually Michael Pitt? Yeah is the Nerdy Guy. It's called murder by numbers and it was loosely based on Leopold Lopez didn't know that too. I didn't really know how just that. It's a sandy people moving so those are those actors. Do kind of look like them. I had just put in that the that Richard Loeb handsome one looked like a Jewish Joseph. Gordon Levitt it's just a code and let it not McCarthy Joe McCarthy one of the great standups and actors you've seen them in so so many commercials you've heard him on the great podcasts. We watch closely. Meanwhile I said that Leopold looked like a young handsome Tony Tale but Jewish and had hard core unit brow. Oh Wow okay yeah I find Tony Hill incredibly handsome. He's like it's like him but like skinny Dan nerdy and kind of He's they're both still handsome. Yes but it was just like the awkward one will also I think. That's it's like this the smart boy thing like like this smart outsider. Because when did they ever fit in if they were these kind of like. Not You know child keenum's or whatever that are going to college. Ah Jin ha ha. That's the thing that they didn't have friends because they're all so much older than them. Yeah they were awkward and Shit Editor. Richard confirmed Nathan's Alibi repeating the story of picking up girls in the car that evening. But Nathan's chauffeur came forward and also they didn't have lawyers with them because their parents were so convinced they were innocent that they were like just go talk to the police. Just walk down down to the old hotel and getting rioted by the police. It parents were just like this is absurd. Of course. They're not they have nothing to do with it. They're chauffeur comes forward and it was like guess what the the night in question. Nathan's car was parked in the family garage. The entire night needed work and it wasn't running so that lie of driving around also doc couldn't have happened also found that the handwriting on the ransom note envelope matched Nathan's handwriting perfectly. And the typewriter used for the ransom note match the the type of Typing on school work turned in by Nathan and those typewriters. We'll give you away they will. It's such a good Link Movie de-details. There's such an ARCS. Dropped an F. I think there was a drop in Heaven Karen Psychic I actually think thinks that I looked up this one in Chicago. One time and again I was just like I'm surprised we haven't actually. I am a good life. said it's such a legendary true cried Hanalei Eh. Never heard of it. I know but I do think it's like a inside. It's a little bit like a musician's musician story definitely So Oh and also out that Bobby Franks. The victim was Nathan Leopold second cousin. Oh no I know he lived across the street from the Franks. It's like they lived right there. Hey I know. I'm bobby. Played tennis at the low house several times so they like knew each other they end. He trusted his cousin implicitly. Exactly so the young men were fucking cocky arrogant with the detectives at you know this kind of you can't do you know you can't touch us. Attitude Lake Superior intellect would keep them from being arrested but when they were brought back in for more questioning and the evidence against him was laid out the confession started. Here's some backstory They had known each other casually while growing up living down the street from each other and both being a part of the wealthy Jewish families in Chicago but Leopold and Loeb hadn't become friends until the summer of nineteen twenty. Richard Nathan now began to hang out more became close even though they were total opposites. I told you low was super handsome. Outgoing extroverted sadly uphold Reclusive and Aloof and he seems to have become obsessed with the handsome lobe and so low who was super super. cocky would often kind of indulge himself in these pointless destructive behaviors like stealing cars setting fires and smashing store front windows which Leopold was stoked on and he he would and logos that he found. Somebody can do stuff with so leopold. Nardi Leopold was obsessed with Frederick Nietzsche. Oh I know yeah so boring. Do they make you feel smarter the more I got talk all about it. You're right nothing matters. You're right that's right so there. He was obsessed with the idea of the Uber Manche. which is the Superman transcendent transcendent transcendent individuals possessing extraordinary unusual capabilities? Basically they're smarter than everyone else so the laws don't apply to them at all. You know moral laws. Don't apply to them either. They can do whatever the fuck they want. They are not bound by any of societies normal ethics or rules. That's why nobody is. That's a lie. Oh so you can throw a firebomb through the butcher's window again. Look stop going the coffeehouse in fucking talking about Nietzsche and how great is and then going next door And breaking a window. It's not cool. Stop it Ryan Gosling. The pair began asserting this theory of themselves with acts of petty theft and vandalism. They broke broke into one of their oldest fraternity houses stole a bunch of Shit including typewriter. They were which they later used to write the ransom. No Oh cool. They were hopped up on Drennan and not being caught and they progressed to a series of more serious crimes like arson but no one seemed to give a shit or notice. It wasn't in the papers and they they want attention so they were disappointed with that and they decided to plan and execute sensational quote perfect crime that they thought would get them public attention and confirm themselves themselves as these fucking smarter than holier than Thou I mean why not. Just go out into the most street and scream daddy. Daddy pay attention to me. It's like alternately. Yeah they're just asking for someone to come and Blake backhand them and be like sit the fuck down and shut the vulgar. Like tell them that they're smart and pretty yes. I guess hitting his bad. That's not what anybody want now but it is the key I think they do want discipline attention and for someone to be in charge of them. Well they were raised by Nannies. They all had their own chauffeurs and they had their own governesses and all that crap so they probably GonNa take over mint their own government right like secret government living in their house. Well yeah they basically they had a everything except for love right so on the Chosen Day that they planned this for months on the Chosen Day. Twenty First Nineteen twenty four driving a car that Leopold had rented under a fake name. Name the two men cruise around the neighborhood near the grounds at the Harvard School for boys in the Kenwood area so they cruise around their own neighborhood in their minds like we have to get someone rich otherwise known pay attention. Oh well they're right about that. They were looking for a boy who was by himself and my five PM. They had almost given up because they haven't found found anyone when they spotted victim. Poor Bobby Franks being his second cousin lobe new Bobby Franks well and was able to lure him into the car bobby at first refused he was like they were like doing right home. He's like four houses away and they were like wait. A second. Get and we want to ask you about some tennis rackets because Bobby was super into tennis. So he got in trustingly of course it. So it's almost certain that leopold was driving the car and that Richard Loeb sat in the back seat and shortly after Bobby climbed into the front passenger seat and they started driving. Richard Loeb struck bobby several times in the back of the head with the Chisel and then dragged him into the backseat. where he stuff to ragging bobby's mouth to stifle his cries and that rag suffocated him? It's so awful and they thought he. He talks about how how surprised they were at the crazy. Chisel blows the blood and he was still fighting and they couldn't believe it so they had to pull him back there and kill him. They're just like like so coldblooded. Yeah they're kind of looking at it in this super creepy almost like as if their doctors then they drove the body of Bobby Franks to their predetermined dumping spot outside of Chicago stopping for hot dogs on the way. How dare you on the way there with Bobby's body in a blanket? Oh my God backseat or not. Okay at the dumpsite they remove. Bobby's close which they later burn. And then an attempt to conceal his identification. They poured hydrochloric acid on his face and generals hydrochloric hydrochloric they concealed the body and the culvert along the Pennsylvania raw tracks. It was during this time that Nathan's glasses fell from his pocket without which I don't think they would have ever been caught yet right right there. There was nothing else. Yeah right yeah I'm asking you Intel. They started looking into them so if they hadn't had the glasses they wouldn't have known to start looking at them. Yeah we I mean the next day after sending the ransom note and making the threatening also francs family. Their plan was abandoned when they found out. That bobby's body had been found. They didn't think he'd be found for months so they were thinking they had all this time to do the stuff but it quickly went south. They're perfect fucking rhyme They destroyed shred the evidence and they thought they had done everything right and just continued to live their normal lives than kind of had gotten away with it. God that's another example of that. The special When when to sociopaths come together I mean that that's what that feels like to me? You hope they'll never meet each other. You'll have one person in in every group has a conscience. Yeah no not these two yeah too much. That's not true Stevens. Our conscience. So Richard Richard Loeb confessed i. He insisted that Nathan Leopold had planned everything and killed. Franks in the back seat of the car while Loeb drove. Leopold confessed as well L. insisting that he was the driver and Loeb was the murderer their confessions otherwise corroborated most of the evidence in the case so the question of why they would do such a thing made the case just this huge huge sensation as we still want to know. Yeah both admitted that they were driven by thrill of seeking the Uber mench delusions and their aspirations to commit a perfect crime. Crime Leopold admitted interest in learning what it would like to feel like to be a murderer and he said later. He was disappointed to note that he felt the same as ever. Wow Wow nihilism super sorry. Yeah and Islas them yeah. sociopaths it kick yet just it's like if you don't have a conscience and you don't have morals than of course it's GonNa feel the same before and after yes you don't care about anything you don't have a fluctuation of emotion Ram the question of why too young well educated boys from wealthy families would kill for no apparent reason fascinated the public and add to that the young age age of the victim. The brutality of the crime and the confessions made this murder front page news all over the world plus it was during time in the nineteen twenties when many people thought society sighting was falling apart and it has everything fucking going Haywire peop- you know ladies were cutting their hair shore and wearing shorter skirts. And they're they called it the newspapers attributed to murder to the jazz life. Co. as they called it sure. So the third case ever to be characterized at the time as the crime of the century the families of Leopold and Loeb. who were both to be tried together hired Clarence Darrow? Yeah who's one of the most renowned criminal defense lawyers players in the country at the time to represent Nathan and Richard. He is the one who later did the scopes monkey trial part of the reason. That Clarence Darrow took. The the case is because he was a staunch opponent of the death penalty and everyone was just completely convinced that these boys were going to get the death penalty. The trial would provide him with the means to persuade the American public that the death penalty just didn't belong in the modern judicial system. So he took it for that reason any also probably got paid leadership on a money. Yeah so instead of pleading not guilty by reason of insanity which would have led to a jury trial and a probable death sentence darrow decided to to plead them guilty guilty which surprised everyone and throw them on the mercy of the court. This fucking trial is super long and super detailed and I urge you to go read the Smithsonian article if you Wanna I know the nitty gritty details. Let's skip forward a little. Shall we sure this is already seven pages we are the cliffs notes of podcasting. We are not here to get down and dirty educated journalists to do for you. That's right you don't let us translate. Just go do it yourself. You will written beautiful articles about this. We're not GONNA do any better people with college education. Yeah in August Twenty Second Nineteen twenty four Clarence. Darrow gives us final summation that lasted about two hours. Aw and is. Considered one of the best speeches of his life doubt full his life. Yeah because most of them were for hours so people like fully guided and he got out on this one oh on September tenth nineteen twenty four judge. John R K release sentence both men to life imprisonment for murder and an additional ninety nine years for the kidnapping mhm they were sent to the same prison mold and low where they were able to maintain a friendship nine. Locked up okay together. They worked on expanding the prison. The school system and taught other inmates at St Ville Penitentiary. Oh they tried to do some goodwill in there. That's Nice I guess. Sure but on January twenty eighth nineteen thirty six. The thirty year old Richard Loeb was attacked by a fellow inmate with a straight razor. Yes He wa. He died yeah. The inmate claim that Loeb salted him though he was unharmed harmed while lobes sustained more than fifty wounds including defensive wounds on his hands and arms and his throat had been slashed from behind. They're not jailhouse. Has Justice. Says you can't kill children they just have it. It's most a most inmates have trauma from their child's when pedals come in and one child murderers come in. They just don't have a clock on. There is a good point. I mean it's that's real that's always been true. It's just like oh perfect some from vengeance for me. ooh God yeah Nathan. Leopold became a model prisoner though and after thirty. Three years and numerous unsuccessful. Parole Petitions Nathan Leopold was released in March of nineteen fifty eight. Wow Yeah where'd he go. He moved to Puerto Rico. Okay Smart Yeah. Got Married and earned a master's degree degree at the University of Puerto Rico. Okay and then taught classes. There he went onto all kinds of crazy. Shit I it's too long for meeting enlist But like good stuff. The advanced advanced this in advance so urge heads on a little. No no no no like in the field of education. Okay you did good things. Okay but you know yeah on August Twenty Ninth Nineteen seventy-one at the age of sixty six Nathan Leopold died of natural causes in Puerto Rico. Ohka the whereabouts Abacha both Nathan Ann Richards remains are unknown. Their their families hid them and did something with them. Yes and no one could like you know hunt them down Tom. I don't know so no one could desecrate graves or whatever but the gravesites of the three families whose lives were ruined by the acts of Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb the francs francs family and the Leopold and low families because all their lives were just fucking ruined after. This guy are all within a short walk of each other at the Rose Hill Cemetery in Chicago. Oh including the fourteen year old murder victim who became lost and then since lost in the sensation of his own murder investigation the subsequent trial all the news the media all the sensation he was lost in it. And that's Bobby Franks Yup and that is the murder of Bobby Franks by Nathan Leopold and Richard Loe. Wow Oh wow. That's so fascinating right. Yeah I had pictured it so differently in my head that I had no and I'd never bothered to read up on it as an adult the the aspect that they were we're from super rich families is so makes it so fascinating it's like this super rich people are already fascinating it's like The lives live the rich and famous. Whatever so everybody already has that kind of like the fascination of like what does go on those closed doors and then it is a little bit of that indicator hater of Lake? I think a thing that reason people focus on that is because it is this thing of. It's just more and more proof you can amass all the well. Yeah want and it will not make you happy and won't make your children happy holiday like it does. It's no guarantee of a happy life. It just isn't is it's a guarantee of not having to worry about bullshit that's making you crazy but it will. It doesn't flip you over into happy necessarily or or like warmth or A. I think a lot of times it really fucks families up. Yeah or can make it. Those boys weren't just super smart and sociopaths. There there's a chance they weren't us. Yeah there's a chance. They were just deeply ignored and felt like nothing. They did matter tool. There's a chance in one of the things brought up at the trial. was that one of them. I can't remember number which was was sexually molested. As a child. By the governess his government S. l.. So there's that I mean there's just all kinds of stuff going on and I think at the time time everyone was so obsessed with this American dream you know to see some people who had it and you had all the money in the world and what everyone else you know desired right and they still couldn't fuck it make it happen put together and you know live normal lives right yeah as fascinating and once once the Franks lost their child it. It didn't matter how much money they because because their child was dead. Yeah that's really. That's their their stories. A sad story. Yeah the MOM like couldn't come to terms with it. She she would be like Bobby's coming home soon. I know you know it's really sad. Bats rough rough. Yeah amazing great job. Thank you and it is. It's funny there. There's so many of those we have some some of those outstanding dangling ones were just. It's funny that they'd be famous enough at at least a US look followed through crime like Oh shit that's right. We've never done this and I didn't know all the details I thought I now. Yeah Jeffrey Dahmer. Those details are just. I'll never do it. It's just sickening now. And it's it starts thickening it gets worse and then it's just depravity avenue and depressing and tragic and then everybody's bad you know everybody's bad in that story totally it's rough have a fucking her aid trout it if we've ever needed a folk in her a it's this week that's right. You WanNa go first shirt while I finally started watching. And this is mild mild but I finally started watching high maintenance the HBO show again. You've been telling me watch over a long time. I saw the dog episode. which was aw so it was so well shot guys go watch the dog episode of High Maintenance Inland Cryer fucking is out but also watch every episode? Because what I started a really getting and I and I did I am in this thing right now. I'm not doing anything I'm binging a lot of TV. So I'm like things they're seeming a very deep um when actually it's just I need to get off the couch but the it's his whole approach this zen approach. I'm always very fascinated naty by people like that this this character. It's very believable and viable. Where he's just kind of like it also makes me really badly wish I lived in New York City really? Yeah because there's some New York City you can leave your apartment and walk directly like down a set of stairs and be in the coolest city on. Yeah our neighborhood with life life people all around you selling happening and it like it's just such a fascinate. The show itself is just as fascinating study of participating. The painting in life There's one point where he he breaks his arm and he has to have a guy help him Deliver we'd and at one point the guy goes. Can I just call the people to come down and just pick it up getting the car and he goes you can but then you don't go to the parts that's the best part and like you know there's part of me is like Oh my God. No it's like no that's just it. He's like he's kind of the Zen master that's just trying to meet people and hang out and observe help. People have fun and relaxing. Everyone everyone needs it for whatever their reason is just amazing. Great Storytelling Ceautiful cinematography. I love that show. I think it's I can't believe no one talks about grunge. Yeah speaking of great shows. Can we plug our friend of the PODCAST. Show comedy show right now fortune. teamster just just can't stand special special called sweet and salty just came out on net flicks. She's one of the funniest people if you don't follow her an instagram and watch her her town. GRANDA and videos. You are missing out wait. Listen I won't show you what. Tm Christmas you got me Sir. Nicholas terkel yeah. You have to you have to watch watch that special. She shot it back in her hometown and Patriots. My friend produced it for her. So I got to you see I got to see some of the promos before they aired She's fortunes one of those people. The first time I saw her stand up. I was just like this girl has to be known she is so she's just a delight. Yeah Yeah and she's in front of the podcast that's right. She listens and she loves it. She we love you fortune. Congratulations on your I believe it's her first. Like our special yeah yeah But my fucking. Hooray is today's three weeks night. I can't fucking believe it. I believe I haven't had a drink. Love it. Congratulations so crazy to me. Thank you so nice. It's so nice I feel good. I'm not exhausted Austin all the time. I'm sleeping well. I'm losing weight. Which is a bonus? Yeah it's just not eating trash all the time. Yes it feels incredible and I'm just kind of an audit love it. That's great yeah wonderful in Kiel Yeah that's nice it's also good. I think it feels good to do something to do. Something I'm GonNa sustained. Yeah way I feel like everything I do is like four days and I'm out. Yeah thanks so much I learned my lesson piece. This is not like me at all. I am an impatient person and I am like Gogo. This feels like yeah have to be kind of Zen and like go day by day and it's really fucking hard but every day I wake up. It's worth it will end. That is kind of the like to combine both of ours together. It's like you Kinda have to figure out What the point of your life is going to be totally and basically how you're going to get there because go go go does not get you anywhere? Gogo goes a coping mechanism. Yeah just like laying on. The couch is a coping mechanism. And what we have to do. I think ultimately is figuring out what we can do past when we stop coping and start realizing that those problems aren't actually there and you're Kinda like punching at ghosts and you and like you can pick other things to do to to deal with life. It's not as bad as you think it is. It's not as hard like you can. Just get in there and fight the good fight on the daily. Yeah there's a new way to do it especially if the one you the way you've been doing it isn't working for you anymore and you know yeah and you get to keep doing it passed when it's not working because that's what everyone does don't beat yourself self up extra just like when you start doing it you can really. You can really take every minute. You're not drinking. You can reinvest into yourself. It's more reason reason to prove to yourself. Like Oh yeah I can do every once in a while. I'll do that. I'll remember that I've I've stopped drinking for a very long time. Ah There's lots of things I've gotten myself through. That's the kind of person you are not the person you keep telling yourself you are hats. Weird the story line does thank my personal story line. It does not include any victories very ridiculous. Oh yeah well. We're we're all rooting for you. And we think your victorious thank you this is maybe one of the first time legitimately proud of myself and as long as you should be an kids. It's hard yeah. It's also hard hard. We know we know this shape of going back into a thing like it's basically getting back under the covers. Feeling when you WANNA I WANNA do it. And you know the sum total of that and what's really cool as right now you're exploring brand new territory of not doing and then what happens to the story. Is You have to do it or the world and every time you do it continued his to not do it in the world doesn't explode. You're basically redefining. How things work were you know yourself? I love that it's Nice It is really nice. Yeah as a person who thought I would never be able to stop drinking When I did did it really was a quite something? That's amazing. Yeah it's incredible and I'm definitely taking inspiration from you and the fact that you could do that. Edible thing yeah yeah and also an episode of the podcast called the lonely brain which I found very pleasant. Oh it's really ignites now it up hanging visiting you guys are the fucking best. Thanks guys for listening for always always being there for always finding fun Steph show. It's so funny like the week after new episode comes when people would just be like did. Did you hear yourself say that right or dross hotdogs or something. Oh my is that That's the guy that also did Mount Rushmore rights. Go Yeah Mark Glasgow. I believe Mark Glasgow. Mark Glasgow key sends us like just little sketches and things that he does as he listens and he drew us a- both as hot dog sons. We my favorite murder instagram. 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