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All About the Thylacine
"The thylacine one only two marsupials known to have a pouch for both sexes. The other species which is still with us is the water possum. From central and south america the pouch of the mail file seen served as a protective sheath for their genitals making them sort of internal external genitals roughly two thousand years ago the pouched predator behind to disappear from papua new guinea and australia perhaps due to competition from the dingo the dingo is considered to be the first introduced species sienna though. No one's quite sure who introduce them. Among the front runners are indian mariners. Who may have traveled to australia. The seafaring lupita people who spread eastward into the pacific from east asia or traders from t- more and taiwan who sailed through southeast asia. The dingo began out competing. The thylacine centuries before european settlement at which point there were around five thousand of them left. Things got markedly worse for the tigers. In tasmania after sheep were introduced in eighteen twenty four. The european settlers took a dim view to native animals eating the livestock. They'd introduced into the predators environment within a few years cash. Bounties were offered to encourage people to hunt them despite contemporary evidence that stray dogs and poor ranch management were killing most of the sheep. Nope gotta be these animals. We didn't ask for to the bounty hunting. The combo punch of extensive habitat destruction and invasive diseases like mange and the population diminished rapidly. The last living thylacine was captured in the wild in nineteen thirty three before being taken to the bowmer assu also known as the hobart zoo the remains of which you can skulk through today if you're into urban exploring and don't mind the risk of being arrested for trespassing
The Next Big Breakthrough? The Expanding Voice Market With Aakir Vaish
"Wanna highlight play The audience orden and invoice will be the gender. It is absolutely very much already happening. In these emerging markets. Like today. I would say a businesses in india africa and southeast asia. Almost half theme dimensions And whatsapp is emerging as a very very big channel. Moore's what's whatsapp. The platform itself has launched new features just this month Which is now sits facebook and whatsapp launching these features. Regina lean more much to happen so it's a very Thing in this part of the water so your advice to those out there that are that are watching this interview Pay attention pay. Close attention to what's happening Look at Definitely be looking at. What's app For the for the brands out there for for customer interaction. Great customer interaction point and. Now it's a point of commerce so so noted Any predictions for two thousand twenty two. I love what you said that you feel like the pandemic accelerated this market by year. Maybe even to Any predictions for you know. Twenty twenty two That you would like to share novem hunter. Another one to me Many predictions i think. Go i do something else. Which is the thing that. I lose my sleep over If there was that was the best. The thing that i lose my sleep over these days the most days over the next eighteen months. There's going to be some massive disruption as these something. That's something that's going to give. Yvette is going to be You know some big product breakthrough some big tech breakthrough. You know editing in the water. Moving to whatsapp or who will business messages on alexa or alexei is going to be ready to become bigger like there's going to be something that's gonna you know almost addicting point where something is happening if this is even bigger than what we have. I don't know what that is yet. A lot of making different bags in areas which we think are going to pan out certain way share. But i think that's going to if Now we're talking about similar things. I'd be surprised
Biden Revokes and Replaces Trump Order That Banned TikTok
"Cyber scoop reports that sentinel one believes it knows roughly speaking who hacked into russian government networks last year it was the security firm says chinese espionage services and not one of the five is the espionage group they call the thunder cats gets the credit sentinel labs reports and it bases its conclusions on what it regards as decisive code similarities to campaigns the abt has earlier used against targets in southeast asia. Sentinel one researcher. One andres guerrero sawday told cyber scoop quote. The idea of chinese targeting of russian government and vice versa should not shock us sino. Russian relations are complex and involve hot button issues like a shared border diplomatic and economic interests and quote. What is relatively unusual is russia's decision to publicly call out a hostile espionage operation diplomatic signaling by press release is more common in the west you as president biden this morning issued an executive order that effectively rescinds his predecessors bands of we chat and tiktok while acknowledging an ongoing emergency. The new executive order directs engagement security reviews and data protection instead of outright bans.
AstraZeneca’s Partner in Thailand Delivers Doses
"Manufacturer AstraZeneca he's starting to deliver Thailand made vaccines AstraZeneca's partner in Thailand this started it's the slivers of covert nineteen vaccines often concerns they were behind on the production schedules for the country and parts of Southeast Asia Siam bioscience says the first locally produced doses of just being delivered to Thailand's ministry of health ahead of the June seventh start of the country's official mass vaccination program AstraZeneca says the vaccines will be ready for export to other southeast Asian countries in July I'm Charles the last month
Vietnam's New Covid-10 Hybrid Variant is Replicating Very Quickly
"And I'm Noel King. Good morning. Why are covert 19 cases surging in parts of Southeast Asia in some cases? Public health officials 0.2 new, more transmissible variants in Vietnam officials found a new Corona virus variant over the weekend that appears to be a hybrid of two other strains with me now is Dr Ali Meqdad. He's with the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. Morning, doctor and thank you for being here. Good morning. Where are we? Seeing new variants emerges that the entire world at this point Almost everywhere, especially right now in Asia. We're seeing it in Vietnam, Thailand and a lot of countries in that area and is the variant that emerges in Vietnam, for example, the same variant that emerges in Thailand or are they different ones? They're mainly coming from what we have first discovered and India and they are variation orbit. I see so a very in emerges in India. Then it spreads to Thailand and its prints to Vietnam. Or maybe simultaneously and then it becomes a different type of variant. Exactly. Despite this is they think that they faster rate. And we have ever expected and we are seeing a new mutations.
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Dunleavy Announces Land Allotments for Native Vietnam War
"Alaska native veterans of the vietnam war era would be able to receive state land under a proposal governor. Mike dunleavy announced last week. George bennett of sitka says it veterans like him faced obstacles to participating in a federal program offered land allotments to alaska natives it was repealed in one thousand nine hundred seventy one a time. When bennett says veterans who have experienced trauma were coming home from tours in southeast asia. Rajar trying to survive another war within our own selves. We survived three hundred sixty five days in vietnam. We came home. We're not the same person. Feel alaskan natives filed claims for allotments for most of the history of the program which began in one thousand nine hundred six but thousands of claims were filed in the two years before it was repealed. Bennett welcomes the governor. Proposing that more than two thousand veterans or their heirs would be able to receive state land. The state proposal follows a two thousand and nineteen federal law that allows alaskan native veterans or their heirs to receive one hundred and sixty acre federal allotments. Dunleavy's proposal would allow veterans to exchange their federal allotments for state land of equivalent value. He says state land is generally closer to their homes than what they would receive through the federal program. The governor thinks bene- and other veterans who described their experiences after he announced the proposal. We weren't there like these folks were but those words that were spoken. We can at least to some extent. Feel what our veterans go through and have gone through. Every day the proposal would amend built the state legislature is already considering
How to Pronounce Knife by Souvankham Thammavongsa
"Stories that make up how to pronounce focus on character struggling to find their bearings in unfamiliar territory or shuttling between idioms cultures and values a failed boxer discovers what it truly means to be a champion when he starts painting nails at his sister salon. A young woman tries to discern the invisible immutable. Social hierarchies at a chicken processing plant. A mother coaches her daughter in the challenging art of worm harvesting in todd. Visceral pro style. That establishes her as one of the most striking and assured voices of her generation. Tonka interrogates what it means to make a living to work and to create meaning so at the top like this is a story. A collection of stories about the lao refugee diaspora and laos is a country is adjacent to vietnam. But it's southeast asian like block. That wasn't solved the the vietnam war and because of that were the source of a lot of refugees along with vietnam. Cambodia that came from that area in the seventy s sixty seventies. Yeah it was like The sixties and seventies laos is the only landlocked country in southeast asia. Like you said it. Borders vietnam also borders thailand and is also the most heavily bombed country in all of history in terms of country size and population and most of that is from americans and a lot of the bombs that were dropped. Not all of them have detonated so every year. There is a lot of casualties from these from these bombs. So yeah western colonization and meddling has definitely you. I don't know what else to say.
Thailand's 3rd Wave Wreaks Havoc Across the Country
"Is on the edge. With the third way the covert 19 spreading rapidly. The country had almost eradicated the virus for the second time when a cluster emerged this month in Bangkok's infamous nightclub district. More than 1000 choices now being reported every day, which isn't a lot compared with countries like India, but this new way of his health authorities concerned for other reasons. Southeast Asia correspondent Brazilian forward reports The streets are unusually quiet. People work from home schools, a shot. Restaurants and shops have reduced hours. Movement around the country is restricted on all bars are closed. This is life during Thailand's third and most serious wave of covert 19. This time, it's the highly infectious UK variant and it's spreading fast. Many people had effect with it even many off. My friend has been effect with that. Some off them has been hospitalized already so scary for me. Because it's everywhere. The outbreak began in Bangkok's nightclubs and has now reached every province. Many hospitals are almost full, and some have stopped testing because they've got no bids for new cases. Health authorities announced. Scrambling to build field hospitals use existing hotel quarantine rooms and moved asymptomatic patients home Hopefully within the next few days, one or two days. We can clear those back lock off infected patients. We still at home, so everybody's working very fast in order to taking care off being in the infected person, Dr. Tan Iraq play Pat is the director general of the Ministry of Public Health, he says with the widespread rollout of the vaccine, not starting until June. Thailand needs to get on top of this new wave Now, hopefully he would see that the situation would be under control in the next few few days or weeks. But if not, I believe that the cover is willing to apply mosque ringtone intervention tie. Red Cross workers have been on the ground through all three outbreaks. Program coordinator. Hunan U. N. Says people should be optimistic from my experience and from my belief that with the current situation and the current restriction measures in place the country would be able to succeed in bringing down the number off new cases. In coming days or weeks. A population of 70 million people will be hoping he's right. This is Miss Zoe forward in Bangkok reporting for a M in
Hong Kong Democracy Leaders Given Jail Terms Amid Crackdown
"In hong kong on friday. Prominent pro-democracy figures was sentenced in two separate cases for that peaceful involvement in the two thousand and nineteen protests. The activists mostly in the sixties and seventies received sentences ranging from terms of imprisonment from eight to eighteen months and suspended prison sentences from eight to twelve months. The move has been widely condemned internationally with an editorial in the washington post saying that china's crackdown in hong kong has reached a new level of viciousness. Well i'm joined now by the southeast asia and hong kong bureau chief for the washington post Ship shibani matani. And also by steve son. Who's the director of the china institute at the university of london Good morning to both shabani organizing or participating in an unauthorized assemblies traditionally a very low level offense in hong kong with the perpetrators just given fines. So this harsh sentencing. Be read as highly symbolic. Yes thank you so much for having me. I think that we cannot see friday's sentencing and indeed the guilty verdict that came before that As separate from this environment that has been created in hong kong up to the passage of the national security law. I think that Both beijing and the counterparts here in hong kong have made it very clear that they will not only seek to end the protests. Here an end any dissent here but to stop completely remodeling hong kong so that it resembles a a very different city in a very different place. you know in talking and instead of framing the protests in two thousand nineteen Beijing has always sought to identify people that they believed were responsible. People that they believed to stoking you know anti-china hatred that they were working with foreign countries including the us and the uk to foment Story they would dismissing right that this was legitimate grievances at these legitimate protesters
Myanmar Is on the Brink of Collapse
"The roads outside me on mars government offices are splattered with red. Paint protests against february's military coup or unrelenting and demonstrators are trying to shame the generals the paint red blood spilled as the army's campaign grows increasingly brutal and indiscriminate a week ago on state television the announcement. Twenty-three protestors would be put to death. Hundreds are already dead with the is undeterred. Strikes and boycotts are strangling the economy on the country's fringes rebel militias made ethnic minorities. That have fought. The government for decades are banding together and external pressure is rising targeted international sanctions are stacking up this week. The un's human rights commission lambasted. The army's crackdown the military seems intent. On intensifying its pitiless policy of violence against the people of myanmar using military grade and indiscriminate weaponry. They're clear echoes of syria in two thousand eleven. He'd an investment are all but frozen just. Today a south korean steel-making giant called posco said it would hold plans for a joint venture. The country is fast heading toward becoming a failed state but both sides of the conflict are dug in determined and seemingly fearless. The burmese military is gunning down people from all walks of life. Charlie mccann is the economists. Southeast asia correspondent students activists taxi drivers even children. They've killed scores of children and even in the face of that danger. People are still protesting in in big numbers. Yeah that's right that's still demonstrating but these administrations have gotten much smaller. Since the military started cracking
Singapore's 'Grab' Super-App Goes Public: Stock Will List on Nasdaq
"Ride hailing food delivery and digital wallet super of southeast asia is going public on the nasdaq singapore's grab says it will merge with special purpose acquisition company or spec the deals nearly forty billion dollar valuation makes it the biggest smack deal by far and means that grabs valuation has more than doubled in just eighteen months as the pandemic boosted demand for its services. The deal is set to close in july
From Ride-Hailing to Fintech: Grab's Journey in the Fast Lane
"Fact fever is heating up to a brand new level here. Grab holdings asia's biggest. Ride hailing and food. Delivery company is looking to go public a merger valued nearly forty billion dollars now. This would be the world's largest back deal ever completed and a major milestone for the frenzy that has swept financial markets the move also means guys grabs valuation has more than doubled in just eighteen months. Have a listen to anthony towns on squawk box earlier. We category leader in ride hailing in food delivery and in mobile payments. And you're talking about a hundred eighty billion addressable market here. Now when you think about how we've grown We've really grown and grown sustainably guys. Here's how i see it growth growth everywhere and not a prophet to be seen as anthony. Ten laid out. This is not the uber of asia. It's ride sharing. Its food delivery and key here. This is also a significant fintech company that works with regulators in singapore and beyond if the fact john that it's not even profitable and isn't expected to be so until twenty twenty three even though it's a so called super app begs the question that i know we ask often here as can the gig economy ever be profitable and i'm talking not adjusted dot profitability net income. Not that lhasa. I don't care about profits with this not yet not yet. I mean in. You know this new job better than others we were. We were in singapore almost a couple years ago. I remember meeting with anthony tan more than five years ago over in new york and really what they are is so much. More than ride hailing food delivery. The really are that kind of almost china style app of everything in your pocket. Leading the way to more digital commerce and particularly post pandemic as more and more businesses especially local ones need to move digital and that links into the you know the tourism economy all of that carl opening up the possibility for fresh modes suspending grab has an opportunity certainly in southeast asia which is under penetrated when it comes to technology and commerce to really be a big part of the infrastructure there.
Flooding, Landslides in Indonesia and East Timor Kill More Than 133 People
"From my powerful Psychlo Tropical cyclone is hindering rescue efforts across Southeast Asia Today, the storm has claimed the lives of at least 133 people in Indonesia and east team or Heavy rains triggered landslides and flash floods, which uprooted trees and destroyed homes. Thousands of people were displaced. We'll have it. Everything is gone. We only managed to salvage whatever we could save compared to the possessions. Our lives are more important. If we save the items, we might die. It's better we save ourselves. The storm is expected to linger a few more days before moving toward Australia.
Facebook undersea cable to boost South East Asia internet
"Big Yuria tech giants will be spending big money to better connect with Southeast Asia, Facebook and Google are planning the late two huge subsidy cables that will link the West Coast to Singapore and Indonesia and area that is having a major uptick in smartphone usage. The cables from Echo and by Frost transpacific will increase data capacity between the region's by 70% and improved Internet reliability. According to Facebook. The two cable should be in place by the end of 2024
Rise in global COVID19 infections for fourth week in a row
"Kevin nineteen confirmed cases. Continue to rise around the world for a fourth consecutive week with around three point. Three million new cases reported in the past seven day period the u. n. health agency said on wednesday. The number of new deaths reported leveled off after a six-week decrease with just over sixty thousand new deaths reported the european region and the americas continue to account for nearly eight in ten of all cases and deaths the only region to report a decline in new deaths was the western pacific. Deaths fell by nearly a third compared to the previous week. There was also a notable increase in the number of new infections in southeast asia the western pacific europe and the eastern mediterranean according to the world health organization's weekly epidemiological update brazil. So a three percent rise in infections with five hundred eight thousand new cases france sought two hundred and four thousand eight hundred forty new infections. A twenty six percent rise and india recorded two hundred and forty thousand new cases a sixty two percent spike. Glibly there have been more than one hundred and twenty three point. Four million confirmed cases of covid nineteen including two point. Seven million deaths. Four hundred and three million vaccine. Doses have been administered.
International Education with Dr Steve McDowell
"Know that you're originally from canada. When did you move to the us I came down in a nineteen ninety four to permanently. I was actually had a congressional fellowship so i was in washington for a year and then went to michigan state for a year and been at florida state since nine hundred six. So you've been in the us for reading longtime right. Would you consider yourself as a canadian or a canadian american. Now i'm a us citizen and Still have family in canada and still try to visit a couple of times a year. But this is my home in tallahassee. And that's wonderful. I know that what i'm about to ask you is is a tough question because oftentimes it's harder for people to talk about themselves and put themselves into a box but i would love to learn a little bit about some of your core values to who you are and on your cultural identity. So how would you define new cultural identity. Certainly as you pointed out. I'm from canada so growing up. Some of the debates and controversies that we had in the sixties and seventies included a role of french and english languages and cultures in canada and the role of multiculturalism. That there was a lot of new canadians coming from different parts of the world and also their relationship with first nations who have often instill Experience discrimination ill treatment and so's debates. I think kind of shaped my sense of what it meant to be a canadian. And what meant to be a citizen in a country where you have those types of debates animating public discourse and when you're thinking about some of your core core values what are some of those things considering you know your background in canada and was issues of multiculturalism in the air i think Interest in other cultures is one thing that i've enjoyed and really benefited from over my life and also a respect for other cultures my own personal intercultural Experiences included working for my sister and brother-in-law and a farm in quebec when i was a teenager and then after high school doing church service project in mississippi and arkansas and united states and getting to know people in those cultures. So i think my i really do think that interest in other people other cultures one of core values and then trying to understand what it means to respect and understand each other. Sounds like you have a pretty multicultural upbringing. I know that you received your international affairs like myself but yours is from york university in canada than you got a fellowship that brought you closer to some of the south. Asian countries like india. And i know that you work is built on the foundations of diversity and you work with international students. You're very supportive of international students. You are teaching course on international communication. So when you're thinking about all of your personal experiences in canada in southeast asia on here in the united states can you give us some specifics. Specific examples of how these experiences shape your personal perspectives on international education. Certainly i think as a starting point We have to kind of understand that our personal experiences are one of many possible experiences that people might have in the world. So it's it's easy for students in the united states to think. Oh this is the way that television is. This is the way that people Communicate with each other or enjoy sports and so many of our cultural practices and focused primarily on media practices. we think. Oh that's how it's done and so a big part of my Focus on international. Communication with students is to try to understand how people use media. How the media organized. How cultures organized in different countries. So my courses themselves don't focus as much on the the interpersonal intercultural communication which we think of is intercultural competency. But i'm trying to understand media systems and media use in different countries around the world. Let's talk about diversity equity and inclusion and higher education because this is a term that you know we hear a lot about and people. Do you have a different conception of what diversity really is. And what am. I look like in colleges and universities because for some people this concept can be purely domestic as opposed to others it could involve a lot of internationalization and international aspects. So for you. What does diversity and inclusion mean here at fsu. And how are we growing this concept on our campus. Certainly starting from the domestic debates the united states diversity equity inclusion would say. Well how do we include the The groups that haven't had access to education public services and economic activity united states so making sure that people of color people from rural areas people from you know less wealthy backgrounds Have access to the opportunities that higher education provides and certainly. Fsu has really taken some major initiatives in that area with student. Success initiatives with the care program Trying to welcome really support students and not just getting them into the university but making sure they're going to be successful in getting the support from a cohort of friends and fellow students from faculty and staff. So i think that's one area of diversity equity inclusion is. Who are we serving in terms of the students. Considering the role of international students is also important because they bring through their personal experience and their relationships with people on campus windows into the world. That you can't get in a textbook or just in a video so you get to know people and build relationships and that's hard even if we're sharing the same space. It's hard to build those relationships so one of the programs on campus. That does a great job with that. Is the center for global engagement. That has a whole bunch of different programs like international coffee hour to facilitate the building of relationships between students from united states and countries around the world so i think domestic inclusion in our programs thinking about international students and i think perspectives that we have in our research questions are research are another important part of diversity that includes international so many of our faculty have research projects that are all around the world. Learning systems institute is a research unit that has projects a lot of them in africa but also in southeast asia and so really strong record of international education consulting and then part of our curriculum and program what we teach what the subjects. What's the content of courses. I think is another of diversity that that's the job of university to open up the world and have music languages cultural studies as well scientific and you know engineering studies that really engage the world and reach out to the
Indonesia urges ASEAN leaders to hold summit on Myanmar coup
"Indonesia's president has urged a hold to violence in Myanmar and he's also asking leaders all of Southeast Asia to hold a summit on the crisis in a December decide Joko Widodo says in a televised that Indonesia urges the use of violence in Myanmar to be stopped immediately more than two hundred people have been killed by security forces since the coup according to credible tallies we don't know the leader of southeast Asia's largest economy says he will immediately hold talks aimed at setting up a meeting of ASEAN leaders to address Myanmar's political turmoil southeast Asian foreign ministers have already called on all parties in Myanmar to refrain from instigating further violence I'm Charles last month
How Real Estate Sells Cars with Gina McCartney
"Gina, welcome to . the It show is great to have you speaking to us today. Maybe just to kick things off can you maybe just tell us a bit about Gina McCartney - who you are and some background. . to thank Yes, I'm yourself sure, you so Gi for na McCartney having me here today. Super excited to see both. So my background if i go back to perhaps my brief - youth and into professional career. I really my whole life was distant creative: sculpting, painting, designing and off the back of that passion went to uni studied creative advertising and was destined. ..my path was to become a art director . My very early career was in advertising agencies and spent ten years ing servic some like pretty big clients ilo, . kohl's meyer group. Cbi off foundation and then some order client bmw and many were because of mine and it was during that time that i realized how much i loved as and surprised no surprise. I joined renault. Stralia and joining renault at the time was at a really pivotal point for the business. And that was all about preaching and finding every possible opportunity we could in the market and myra was to introduce the sierra digital program. Really lift the capability of the dealer network from a lead management perspective. Sur getting out outta rot on building confidence back in the network that we were providing leads to them in generating value from office and then from neymar roll moved into a brand and events role and so the full marketing swayed had an awesome time with the business and great team. And then my time was up. When i was tapped on the shoulder for all at anchor pinellas area group been realized real estate dot com to you joined the business not really knowing much about the role. I was joining. He'd go to market manager role and of bain there now close to seven years and moved my way through various segments. So we're two now. Residential business at develop a business emotional property meteorologisy and clients and also to stint in malaysia. And i leave the win. We acquired a southeast asia and helped with the integration of that business side at an awesome korea here. Rei and now run. I tame called the customer. Excellence team and so my team move. Twenty incredibly talented people help support our two hundred thirty sales teams across australia. And that includes the learning development perching old training ogata market siles support collateral and operations analytic. Kpi's commissions incentive sprints and really big a big team mission and vision is to pave the new way of selling and selling clock when you work for rei. Let's bit about my story. Love love gardening love dancing and eighteen. And that's how i spend most of my time let's it's an impressive story. How you you've migrated from during the karate stuff through to or i will now into real estate now. We can't get a bit of understanding as to real estate dot com o. Rei group and what's the back story of real estate. Dot com abc business was born in the garage. Dome koster and for those familiar with john. It's in the eastern suburbs of melbourne and in nineteen ninety five and they came up with a crazy idea of water. We put the photos of property onto online so people can see them on the internet and so literally scanning photo by photo by photo built this web sought. That looks very different today than what did obviously up. Twenty plus years ago and over the years to really brilliant simple idea to gos- and today with the leading australian property portal and we have hundred million plus is it as a month coming to thought trillions of photos from a perspective and yeah we service most property clients around australia and that includes real estate agents property manages developers homebuilders land developers media clients of less amount of probably. But almost all and anyone that wants to reach property. Sega's we do business. You know you've got a really interesting background. Having spent tom and credit in automotive value in real estate can you. Maybe just discuss some of the similarities. Between automotive and real estate i remember when i joined. Ra and it was probably a month thing. I thought wow. I didn't realize there was so many similarities between the two industries. And if i stop from a business structure perspective the similarities of utah franchise groups independence at relationship between head office and you know the small small businesses that are running in local and regional areas. I think that that pressure that applies with a small business to find the raw talent retain talent when there is no professional requirement This note there's no huddle to get into other industry. And i think that is a challenge that are still share today and another real estate industry in particular institute really trying to introduce their professional courses create more opportunities for the right people to enter the industry. So they've got really quality staff sieving consumers invincibles. And i think our remember. That was a challenge in the automotive industry finding the right talent and apprenticeship styles perspective perhaps a bit of bid process. But that was probably one thing that i saw straightaway is a big lesson. In automotive that i think real estate can learn with the handshake. Between sales and after-sales and if you think of the real estate version of that is the sales and rental market now rent rolls the most profitable part of a real estate agency and if you think about the handover in the importance of one to the other the ongoing retention of the customer. I think that's a really important similarity between the two some. I think some best practice sharing could happen more. And then the probably the other big similarity i would say is the is much smarter and much savia and this is probably not exclusive to automotive in real estate but their expectations have increased tenfold. And no longer. Can you get back to a later inquiry within a couple of days. We're now seeing consumer expectations at a couple of minutes. And i think that's something that dealerships deal with daily and you know the the now now now economy that exists within cosima world.
"southeast asia" Discussed on The Brookings Cafeteria
"Countries looking to china partly because china's economy has recovered faster from the pandemic and so they see china's emerging economic growth and recovery as something that they can latch their own train to and hopefully benefit through greater economic integration. One thing that i look at is how the us has stumbled the chinese stumbled in the initial phase of containing the pandemic middle powers in southeast asia. Have done quite well. I would say middle powers throughout asia whether democracies like taiwan and south korea or one party states like vietnam. The secret isn't so much the nature of their political system. But whether or not they were able to mobilize resources effectively a moment of national crisis in a kind of transparent and effective way. That's guided by science. I would just add that. Some of these countries have a good memory about the sars epidemic. More than ten years ago and other viruses come out of china in so that kind of muscle memory is important and vietnamese. People were very very good about wearing masks and social distancing in vietnam had outstanding record. I would just say that. Most of these countries cut off travel with china at a pretty early stage. And you might wonder whether these middle powers can really face up to a giant. Our like china. Well the answer was on the yes you know. They just cut off travel. They normally get a huge number of chinese tourists at certain times of the year including right now by the way bill were just about to go into chinese new year we you would normally have tens of millions of chinese tourists. Going to warm places in southeast asia's of you're not going to see that this year for a variety of pushing paul reasons but i think these countries have shown they have real agency in terms of dealing with the koby crisis where a few weeks into the new biden administration. At this point. I wanted to ask you what you think. This new administration's policies should be toward the region. But i want to ask you what your assessment was or is of the trump administration's free and open indo pacific strategy that the administration put in place. As i mentioned it did introduce some new economic elements late these trilateral infrastructure platforms and other things like it. Unfortunately it was also accompanied by a rhetoric that led the region to think that. It's my way or the highway in terms of us perspective. On the region vis-a-vis china southeast asia is basically on china's doorstep. It is increasingly integrated with the chinese economy and an ideal world. Though southeast asian countries are very different from one another and they have diverse responses that china's rise in general. They don't want to be in a position of having to choose between the united states and china. They wanna have good and constructive relationships with both countries if they can a key theme coming out of trilateral dialogue reflected in the book is how do we get beyond this choice conundrum that were locked into. And there's real challenges there but it certainly growing aspiration in southeast asian so actually did want to end on that question. What is the constructive approach to take to get out of this binary choice between the us and china. The biden administration has been clear that they want to go out and consult with allies and were closely with partners and we have a couple of important security allies in south east asia. Jonathan mentioned thailand in the philippines and singapore may not be a formal ally but they are important security partner of the united states. So i think if we're serious about working with partners it means listening to them. And i think what you're hearing general in southeast asia is there's a lot of worry about china from the security point of view and they definitely want to see the. Us remain engaged but from an economic point of view. Your they have twice as much trade with china as they do with the us and they are not interested in a new cold war. they're not interested in decoupling so they wanna walk a fine line of having the economic integration but also security protection and i think their message is going to be. That's good path for the united states as well and maintain our security alliances but to get back into the economic game in the asia pacific to some extent. Now we've abdicated on that area. Jonathan david thank you for coming by today to talk about the new book. Reigler response assessing great power dynamics in south east asia.
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"Podcast the current and our events podcast and now. Here's bill fining with jonathan stream. Seth and david dollar. Thanks for than. Hello jonathan david. Thanks coming by this afternoon to talk about the new book. Radler in response assessing great power dynamics in south east asia. I wouldn't ask a very general question to start off. Can you define southeast asia for those. Who are listening sure. South east asia is a diverse in economically dynamic region of about six hundred and fifty million people and eleven countries ranging from modern city states like singapore to far archipelagos like indonesia. Ten of these countries belong to the association of southeast asian nations commonly known as on a body that has traditionally sought to manage the engagement of great powers in the region however that task has become much more complicated. In recent years as southeast asia has emerged as a testing ground for china's rise. And also a hotbed of strategic rivalry between beijing and washington the us. It self has to tree. Allies in southeast asia thailand and the philippines an american companies also channel a lot of foreign investment to the region. Meanwhile china is drawing southeast asia closer economically through trade and its belt and road initiative and also taking aggressive actions to enforce its territorial claims in the south china sea. So you've answered the question. The great powers in a book title china united states. But you also in. The book discuss a quad which includes japan india. I just was curious. How large a role do they play. The quad also includes australia and is a short way of describing a quadrilateral security dialogue. That includes australia. And as you say. Japan india and the us. It's actually been around since two thousand seven but has gained momentum in recent years because of a common concern about china's growing power and influence in the indo pacific essentially the quite complicates life for is on which prefers to promote its concept of ozzy on centrality or the notion that ozzy on provides the central platform within which regional institutions are anchored so in a way the quantum revival has stolen some on thunder as it emerges as a counterweight to china whereas ozzy on wants to play a more central role in managing great power involvement in the region including the nature of china's engagement. I was curious about how came about. What was the genesis of it a couple years ago brookings decided to launch a trilateral initiative with experts from the us. Australia and southeast asia. Typically such initiatives focus on defense and security issues like maritime challenges in the south china sea. We are addressing those issues but decided to widen the aperture also look at domestic governance trends in the region asking whether great power rivalry and china's rise are having an impact at that level. Is democracy on the wane for instance and his authoritarianism on the rise and finally were focusing on economic challenges especially with regard to infrastructure. You mentioned china's belt and road initiative a moment ago. Could you explain exactly what that is. And also how. It involves southeast asia david on that one belt and road. Initiative was launched in two thousand and thirteen by two speeches from china's president xi jinping one in kazakhstan about restoring the ancient silk road. The overland routes from china to europe and the other speech in indonesia creating a kind of a new concept of america time so growed which is really just china sorta opportunistically defining this corridor. That goes south from china. Through the south china sea. The indian ocean onto europe and china has a lot of different elements of this belt road but the most important is financing infrastructure in countries. That wanna borrow from instruction structure and mostly this power and transport rail and roads. You got some major countries in the area. Like india which is not part of south east asia but just slightly to the west india's not participating in china's belt and road but pakistan next door is borrowing very extensively and in southeast asia indonesia malaysia they've been largest Absolute borrowers lau in cambodia or somewhat smaller economies but they've borrowed quite a lot relative to their economy. Vietnam is a little bit more like india. So you've got some economies feel comfortable. Borrowing from china for this infrastructure and others are mostly focused on their geo-strategic competition with china. And and they don't really want china involved in their infrastructure. The belt road initiative doesn't include then china's economic development programs that launched in say latin american countries in africa. That's something entirely separate now. Actually i in my writing bill. I argue that while the speeches i mentioned gave a clever branding what china is doing. In fact it's a global program. They're actually lending more to africa than they are to south east asian for example in in the recent years. Latin america also quite significantly brazil venezuela. So it's really a global program and that beer labeled as a kind of branding about china financing infrastructure. Frankly on mostly commercial terms. This is not particularly concessional money. Some of the countries that have borrowed are getting into pretty serious. Debt problems at this point so why focus on infrastructure and why is southeast asia so interested in having that kind of investment. I'll grab the first in. Jonathan can grab the second okay then. Chinese experience the mainland chinese experiences. They've invested a lot and infrastructure. If you go there. It's quite remarkable. The quality of their roads they have more kilometers of expressways than anyone else development of high speed rail airports. If you're an american you go to china and you go to airports in relatively minor cities and they make us embarrassed about american infrastructure. China has gotten a lot of mileage out of infrastructure and that's been an important part of their development strategy and now they have pretty much most of the infrastructure they need is kind of natural for them to turn their attention to financing infrastructure in other parts so jonathan. Why south east asia. Well i think. There's both bush and a poolside. The asian development bank or eight gb has indicated that southeast asian needs about two hundred and ten billion dollars a year in infrastructure investment. Just to keep up the impressive momentum of economic growth. That's been achieved there. So they're very interested. Basically china japan are neck and neck.
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"Sure thing the west once had great political hopes for south East, Asia America, in particular, has long envisioned a string of just an orderly pro US democracies triumphantly prospering and China's backyard today. That vision looks more like a hallucination southeast Asia has become the domain of unelected thar Teheran's or worse yet elected leaders who behave like despots. This is the present and future of southeast Asia, hyper capitalistic, but deeply illiberal. This autocratic sweep doesn't just benefit the entrenched political dynasties that run these nations. It's also a blessing for organized crime. So you do kind of a big survey of many countries in southeast Asia, but me and mar add like to focus on because it figures prominently in your book in no small part. Because one of the major commodities there is meth. What is the story behind me and more becoming one of the world's meth capitals? The largest meth market in the world is in south East Asia. Now, it's no longer in Mexico. The top selling product is this little pink pill nets Pinkas, say, Barbie's, corvette, and this stuff smells like vanilla cake frosting. So if there was a pill sitting here in this room, we would someone having birthday cake. So the junkies are smoking the pills yet. And if you do, you'll get this euphoric eight hour high, which they describe as making ever. Everything around you. Interesting. A lot of the work that people do in south East Asia is tedious repetitive work. And if you take this pill, that drudge work becomes interesting. And so that exceleron it's the popularity, doesn't lead to addiction and aren't people dying. It does lead to addiction, of course, it's really bad for you. It's not a good idea to take it to work longer hours because it can catch up with you. But frankly, a lot of people I talked to, they aren't the junky profile. You might picture and and just like people can be functional alcoholics, you can be a functional meth user. So it sounds like there's a cultural thing that's driving the meth use. How did the dealers and how did this economy? How is it allowed to kind of flourish. Let's look at the place where all this stuff is coming out of that's northern Yan mar up on the border with China and these pills are being produced by drug lords up there who have been allowed by the state to control little pockets of territory. Most like it's their own little kingdom and they're very prolific. So at this point they're churning out more than two billion of these pills per year. Okay. Starbucks doesn't sell that many cups of coffee in a year. McDonald's isn't sell that many big Macs a year worldwide. The scale is massive. Our police part of the problem too. They allow this to happen. Absolutely. So if the police are part of the problem, there's another answer to the drug situation in Myanmar. It's called the pots, just San. I hope I'm pronouncing that right? Who are the pot? Just son is a Baptist vigilante group, and they're furious that there are drug lords running parts of their native territory. And so they've said, well, we can't go after drug lords because I've M16.'s RPG's and all that, but we can form vigilante group that goes out at night snatches up anyone who's got some of those pink meth pills in their pocket and teaches them a lesson. And so I went up there and asked, can I tag along. Yeah. And you go on a raid with them out, would you read that part? It's on page sixty eight. As soon as I hop on the back of the motorbike he twists the hand throttle reading hard. We zip out of the compound. I can see the rest of the pack up the road there rear lamps casting a red shimmer on the wet earth. We race ahead to rejoin the swarm. The wind is beating on my ears damp air, fluttering my collar, my feet flail about seeking the bike's rear foot pegs. And when I find them I dig in stabilising my body as we exceleron over puddles. My sneakers are so cct and I m exhilerated it's hard to fend off the intoxicating rush of running with the pride charged with purpose weapons at the ready. Most of the vigilantes are riding with two guys on one motorbike, the men in back gripping bamboo staffs there, long weapons wobble in the wind, but my excitement is tempered by a sense of foreboding feels as if a dark spell has been cast as if this mission is pregnant with violence..
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"Marco werman here with the world. We're a co production of the BBC World Service PRI and WG be h. in Boston, the world's Patrick win has lived in Thailand for a decade. Now, he's been there long enough that grow catfish eaten by hand is go to breakfast. No problem. But in his new book, Hello shadowlands Patrick finds himself in countless problematic situations. He visits opium dens, northern Myanmar, investigates the illicit drug trade in the Philippines and oh yeah. He also dances with North Korean waitresses in Thailand. I got to say Patrick, a lotta. This book feels like fear and loathing and southeast Asia. I don't suspect that was the original point. But why did you undertake the survey of the region's dark underbelly in the first place while I know people are into organized crime. I mean, look at the stuff we watch on television narcos breaking bad, the wire all the way back to the godfather, but there's this huge black spot and that is southeast Asia. And do you think organized crime in southeast Asia functions differently from. What we see in movies like the godfather of breaking bed. I think that the big takeaway about organized crime in south East Asia is it's booming and no one's talking about it. So by the middle of next decade organized crime syndicates just in that region will control three hundred seventy five billion dollars that's bigger than the GDP of countries in south East Asia, or that's bigger than the GDP of Ireland. So just to kind of set us up and frame the rest of our conversation, I'd like you to read from the prologue to the book starting with the line, the west once had great political hopes for south East Asia..
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"Which can be a problem. Most Sally's entrepreneurials healthy societies and we have to live each other. That's what of issues. A consequence of that that's still in the same plus Lhasa is. Agreements environment that is Mojo skill development previously, the various violence, the are not Bigalow slam of things like al-qaeda demise is than mostly Shanley ISIS. Right. None of these things in the doing Slough. But when you have a very exclusive on any religion it, it creates for outside and you. You see it in Philippines, in morale. We, I have a bit afraid that it might Embiid itself because of the issue in rock state. That's one issue. The second class issues is what happens in the Middle East that's exert influence of how major Pol relations. Are regarded this week I gave you what is ready about realize rea- feel to enforce it very damaging. Another example was where missed a former President Mubarak Egypt when in the spatial one week for the a staunch ally to being outcasts, give him safe for future. She wouldn't give him the time of day. And that meant everybody thinks. Needed with house auto another storm that the that, the friend of this, what we in earlier. China is moving into the east, how fast that will have a very how regarded here. The sin. Chang issue is something that I think is closely watch Muslim communities around the world included in in southeast Asia, and you know, governments may not want trouble, but you remember how this man Rushdie or the Danish fatten incident stop that it was not got much the in Egypt's need. One imam do issue on credible mock the issue law. Things might change, right? So in this to bid process of issue, this fight our best efforts league all the Middle East, the Middle East refusal. And so we thought we will learn a little bit more of this reject. Fantastic. Is there anything else you would like to tell our audience about south East Asia or US-South East Asian relations? Well, one thing on that. Sure. The state of salvations that is in the United States is I think on the decline. They are youngest ballers that study, but the whole state of academia means you studied narrow, narrow slices of a phenomenal. This is a general phenomenon in academia global, but it doesn't mean that you don't take the very this approach may be fascinating to the sponsors who study narrow slices of basket leading up. So. O'Meara or something like that, but it's not very useful for policy and whether you like it. Is a strategically Jen which the United States is engaging. And I think you need a broader deeper knowledge of this region need to nurture another generation of raw, this spas, obvious Asia, and that's why you know the Brookings institution's chair southeast Asia can potentially a very water room and well, thank you. And I assure you. Thank you Bill the hurry. I assure you we are trying our best to promote Southeast Asian Studies and increase the visibility in Washington, but also as I think you were suggesting we're increasingly engaging with the remaining academic centers that focus on south East Asia and make sure that there's a strong connection between the academic focus on the one hand and sort of policy analysis that's digestible to a broader audience as well. So we're doing what you need to try and reestablish what used to be called. Rinos studies. Yeah. Okay. Thanks negative anymore. Is a pity. Academia decided to discuss Regional Studies approach. They support. Well, thank you very much for joining us. Yeah. The Brookings
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"Which you know still, though they don't call you don't call the walls anymore, right? This really exhausted Americans, which will already very tired after the long haul war. Discredited the American political establishment and let the election still Bama and Mr. Trump. I think neither is going to take me for saying this, but I think they represent different facets of the same liberal phenomenon and fight clear that Americans are no longer willing to ban any pay any price on behalf of the rest of the world. That was clear. To my mind under Mr Obama as on the Mr. Trump Mr. Obama's flood, but in cherry mechanism was multilateral. Mr. Trump's is study bilateral, but it's different facets of blue the phenomena, and I think this is going to be along the nominal now. It doesn't mean Americans just way too. Heck, Pekka Peckham, eggs and leave. Right? You too deeply enmeshed in the region to leave even if you wanted to. I don't think you want to. If you look at the national security strategy defense strategy, neither which 'isolation is. Documents new, they better Embiid different concept, Nara onset of the shoe pitchy all the slogan America first captures and you can debate this leadership Yukon call it a with brawl or treat. Accurately. Anyway, let me turn to one last question. Your recently became chairman of the Middle East institute at the National University of Singapore, and I wanna ask, what do you do in your new role? What issues are you focusing on? What are the important issues that connect the Middle East say to southeast Asia. Well, I, I was responsible for starting the Middle East is do more than a decade ago. Okay. Instructions. Then prime minister go Chok Tong, but I took my of the wall and went off in overly academic direction. So it's essential function was the was to provide alternative perspectives on. Middle Eastern issues are relevance to Singapore salvation, and I think there are two two. To Bain pastas of issues that that a particularly relevant. One is this been evident for the last twenty five thirty years that the nature of Islam as practice is always Asia and don't forget. This is largely Muslim region as one of the largest Muslim countries in Indonesia here has been changing under the influence of different varieties of Islam from the Middle East phenomenon. I am for the Arabization association. This law, the traditional Islam as traditionally practice in southeast Asia was Lashley sufis very syncretic. Incorporating elements of Buddhism, Hinduism effect of older practice, just an mystic practice. Now, this is being gradually replaced Arabize by more austere phones on slob back this in some release, the patriots, mainly this Assad effects. This is changing. The texture of was minutest in southeast Asia, making them exclusive,.
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"Are you optimistic that they will have some end that is good for the region. For the claimants? Well, it's like one of those things better to have than to have right. It can reduce accidents, low attention, the very process, negotiating it is as important in itself, but it is not a symbol. It is not a magic one that will magically somehow make all the the different claims bowl. Ray resolve is not meant to adjudicate meeting claims. It's meant to regulate behavior to make it less dangerous to ensure that the the level of tension is manageable. And that's all I mean on that point of view is us will when it will be concluded. I have absolutely no idea. If you recall the declaration of conduct in the South China Sea took tenure, Stewart negotiate, and the implementation lands for the declaration conduct took a further ten years and certainly issues. In the conduct a far more complicated than the decoration. So don't hold your breath. Okay. There is value in the process of negotiating one. Obviously, as you well know, some season is coming up soon in Asia and southeast Asian particular with Singapore hosting East Asia summit and Ozzy on meetings in November. The White House has said that President Trump won't be attending this year and we'll send vice president Pence instead. And I wanted to ask, if you think the sends a negative signal to the region about US commitment, it's extensive engagement going forward. Yes and no Bisley off prefer best than Trump to come in person as he did to the Melilla. But I think given Mr. Trump's. Personality is not really a surprise that it did not decided not to besides having a very crucial mitchum elected in over. I, I don't know what the outcome will be. I know you know, as I do the pundits on this often wrong sometimes right sometimes wrong, so I'm not entirely surprised so I don't think what is not a good thing. I think it's a, it's a fatal thing because I said earlier. Residents coming, but the US presence in the region has been pretty consistent. Okay. I think should also visually. And you believe this to be true even in the context of America first and the broader approach of the Trump administration to the world. Okay. Setting us, I tree woman, right? And the security and foreign policies here I see is much continue d. as I see, I see farm opportunity as each despite what Mr. drum says, tweets, he has reaffirmed all the alliances he has given the seventh fleet greater latitude to adopt freed on vacation operations in the South China Sea. Then his beliefs as did he has to some degree to logically restart the credibility of American power. I think it was a huge blow as big as fascination. The EV it'd be where President Obama draw red line in Syria and then fail to enforce it. The credibility American power was the last resort restored when Mr. Trump decided to bomb Syria while having dinner with residency chipping and without red abolish can be no leadership. So I take this philosophy, you know. The one could wish that Mr. Trump would express himself in a more calibrated way, but I tend to look at what is done what you says actually done and not just what one individual. The other says. Do you see sort of the Americas first approach to the world, including on trade and historical anomaly? Or do you think it's a long term trend that you know as a keen watcher of the United States from south East Asia is something that you can expect to see for a while. I think it's a symptom of a deeper more profound phenomenon. Eddie end of the Cold War, a certain degree, a Jerez infected American foreign policies, beginning with the Clinton administration and after nine, eleven that led to these. Interminable wars in the Middle East..
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"Represents the streets of Philippine on nationalism that is not all his family America. By the same time, he kept the alliance and enhance for the insulations with a Maratha principal, ally in East Asia, Japan. Former prime minister miss the AGIP was has been accused of being in indebted to China because the one entity scandal, but he never stopped the seven fleet from calling relation fought. So never stopped American surveillance aircraft flying missions over the south Tennessee out of Malaysian f. It's not this this ability to do many things walking dot and possibly this. The pop music at the same time is unnatural. Diplomatic instinct of the region and is simplistic and a distortion to look at it. You'll by binary having lived in Hanoi for many years of my life. I appreciate and understand the comment you made about the mies colleague turning to Ozzy on for a second Ozzy on the association of southeast Asian nations comprise of ten countries in south East Asia. It's sometimes a glass, half full glass, half empty analysis when people look at it, some describe it as the most successful regional organization anywhere in the world at the same time. It also criticized for maybe not handling the South China Sea disputes more effectively or not doing more to somehow resolve their oheka issue, say and beyond March today. How do you assess Ozzy on performance recently? And where do you see it going in the future? Much of the ASEAN amounts to criticizing call for being imperfect false, and that is actually point. Okay. Always a faucet pasta as animals, both have their own users. You have to understand that are cion unlike say, the EU has no supranational very limited. Supranational visits is a collection of seven states. Sovereign states have their own interests and therefore the organization it's hole and do no more than what the members politically allow it to do. We do things dwell and something's not so well. The fundamental of arsia is to manage diversity to prevent diversity from degenerating into conflict. And from that point of view, as John has been pretty successful and that is his fundamental lupus in sands everything else. We do a mean stores this end. In ninety six, seven, the region, right? The coal was hot on the mainland always -ation. Singapore had just been expelled from Malaysia and relationship was fraught with racial tension in Asia, had just stopped fighting a undeclared war against Malaysia. And when we left Malaysia against Malaysia Insinger ball confrontation, the Philippines was claiming a huge chunk of Malaysia, namely SABA. There were tensions along the border between southern Thailand, Malaysia, west Malaysia, and between southern Philippines, Indonesia. In short, the region wasn't optimists today. We are by and lots of each without cells with each other. And that's fundamental the fundamental achievement. As I said, I think you can get the South China Sea has become something of a proxy for the strategic Jasmine's on the way between the US and China. And that's a big boy game. We do very much in earlier period. Played a major role, Vietnamese leader Cambodia in the night. But that was that was a sign of Soviet proxy conflict beyond our politics off. I play. Not once aggression role in preventing a complete being recognized until the global constellation of major powers shifted, and it will also to have some kind of solution. So the things we can do things we can do some five will move faster other times, and sometimes we will. We will not move all along a smooth or strict victory. We move forward by meanders and lurches, which is not unusual in regional Asians. This is the reality. The fundamental issue is, are we all better off with us yet? I think the answer must be better off with ASEAN for all these invoked. This is imperfect world since the South China Sea has come up. I'm just want ask quickly about the code of conduct negotiations. Where do you see these going?.
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"It's not entirely clear what he needs. And I think that they are really tree pastas abrasions that of most salvation countries will have. I. Is it inclusive concept, or is it exclusive humane, vis-a-vis, China, really. China is the all countries actually because China is part of the region. That's a geopolitical fat second. What does it mean for efforts for economic cooperation within the the region and what does it mean for international law LaRussa base order. That is a bit of a slogan that has a connotation by dominion in that way as a small country. Obviously. The more that it's a national relations structured on the basis of law rather than alone. Raw power, the better. So these are three classes of questions. The countries. Still at a initial stage of formulating won't onset of what the Indo Pacific means. We at the point within that he didn't know Shen and the Pacific Ocean. Eventually we must have our own concept of what these beads. Yeah. Yeah. When I traveled to the region, I sometimes here in the context of China's rise also this new Indo Pacific policy of the Trump administration. The statement from think tankers and others in southeast Asia, don't make us choose. In other words, we don't want to have to choose between China and the United States. I sometimes wonder if it's a cliche or if it's really strongly felt, how do you feel about that? Well, as a Annency, not just Americans, but amount of many salvations East Asians, think of the wool in binary terms in must be if not a must be can only be. I don't think this really have just the complexity of very diverse region, not just obvious Asia Minya, but the broad, the East Asia in the Polly, what you want. It is much more naturally multiple region. Now the period on special on challenge American dominance of eminence was in historical terms, very short, maybe from certain ninety nine to something like. Two thousand eight two thousand nine when the global financial. For most of the twentieth century. In fact, for most of history, the Woolmer's much more complex place and region will certainly much more complex where we say, don't make us choose. We are trying really, at least in my mind to to instill a sense of this flexibly on whoever audiences. Look at the look at the facts, the investment figures look at trade figures, look at the military presence. Yes, China's footprint is growing as natural bustle, but the US is not. This appear in Japan is enhancing footprint in many ways. So our Indians Australia is at the southern tip of this region. You have career to, you know, which is playing increasing role. So it is a compact region. It is naturally multiple region in western international relations theory, and I'm a great fan of it. But you know, balancing hedging and bandwagoning Hunslet to be alternatives strategies actually in salvation. We all three simultaneously always got. So I have never forgotten what Vietnam. Polly wants told me, he told me, I asked him what does change leadership annoy means will be announced relations with China, and I've never gotten his answer. He's also not Bill hurry. Every Vietnamese leader must be able to get along with China and must be able to stand up China. And if you think you can't do both tediously, you don't deserve to be the leader and that pretty much sounds out sound sums up the southeast Asia, fundamental diplomatic instinct. I give you a two examples. When president Duta take came into our Philippines, if read the American media commentary, you would have thought at the sky's falling. But yes, he, he has a..
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"Of multiracial meritocracy. That is the fundamental social combat on wishing a points based. And if that compact is broken, this is a small place if there has broken is going to be very difficult if not impossible together now in southeast Asia as a whole, the role of Oversea-Chinese is always going to be a sensitive issue, but is affec- unfortunately it is now in nineteen fifty five. The Chinese between ninety forty nine hundred fifty five. The Chinese communist party and the town. In feel opposition for the allegiance of the overseas Chinese communities of southeast Asia in ninety fifty five, four of ride the reasons, the Chinese communist. The wisely in my in my in my view, made a distinction within the horror which is excellent Chinese overseas, which can be of any citizenship and the patio, which is a thick Chinese of ESE nationality and basically toll the Kwara elbow, Biko citizens of your countries wherever you more recently. However, they have tried. They have much this. The narrative of the great rejuvenation of China under the leadership of the communist party, which it knowledgeable room very insistently under sitting same's that the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation is of importance to is of should be about all Chinese. In other words, a blurring of this cinch in between the Horan and watcher Oganization Alie inbox this year, the Overseas Chinese Affairs office was placed under the control of the United front work department of the Chinese communist party. Now, I think this is rather cited because if something happens in southeast Asia to the Chinese communities which has happened a riot racial riot, which unfortunately cannot be entirely ringed out. This puts the Chinese offense. Most recently in Malaysia. It was not the main reason why. The recent election, but it was one of these. The opposition use this effect and the Chinese ambassador in Malaysia during the election. Soy fit to go and openly campaign for a ethnic Chinese candidate. Government Kennedy, listen, the gentleman lost. They like, I don't really understand why they have decided to blood. Is this diction by it is most unwise, not in China's own interest. That's very interesting. And I wanted to ask you about it because I've been reading some of the press reports where you've been quoted and so on. Let's turn now to the role of the United States, and I know you're keen watcher of American foreign policy as well. And we've seen US foreign policy toward Asia, including southeast Asia, kinda Volve from at least in the last two administrations from the pivot to Asia or the. Rebalanced policy of President Obama to now the free and open Indo Pacific policy of the Trump administration. The new policy seems to take a more confrontational approach toward China, at least rhetorically. And I'm wondering how you evaluate the current trends in US policy and any recommendations you might have for the Trump administration? Well, if you look at it, I don't like the rebalance only slightly better because it knows inconstancy what what way can be can another way. But actually, if you look at US policy since the early seventies, what has been most evident is consistency. You are here and I don't see any sign of you retreating the great disruption of US. Policy's always Asia was the Nixon doctrine. The doctrine in ninety sixty nine. And since then there has been fluctuations from administration, administration, because every ministration obliged to distinguish yourself from the previous one, even if the distinctions minute and the free and open Indo Pacific is the latest iterating of what has been actually very consistent policy. I get a useful to Indo Pacific in so far as draws attention to the strategic connections between the Indian Pacific oceans which have always existed, but have become more more clearer. Immoral seniors. But it's very broad slogan..
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"For reasons that could not loss, we became independent. Ninety sixty five now Singapore. At least. I mean, the Oculus. Evidence suggests since the fall inch century has been a a major trading up for for the region, and that is still our essential role. Of course, we have broadened the definition of that role. We are now a major financial center. We a major oil refining center, although we have no oil, whatever. We are a major logistic center. We a major point, but you have to understand that modern Singapore is a totally official place. We should not exist. It was created by human endeavor and has to be maintained by women Deva. This is another way say that a small city state as no intrinsic relevance in the international system relevance is to be created. And how we create. It has to be a reinvented from type of. We are currently as until the end of this year. Twenty eighty. Our goal is basic thing to keep on track. We have specified goals defined by to enhance the resilience of the organization and also to Stotts that the initiatives in in the in the broad field of a digital economy a, yeah, it's not an overly apply. So what we can do is stop things than somebody else will have to make them fall at the Knicks chair of coffee will still continue to play a role, right? So it's goes on modest. Let's turn to sort of broader trends in the region. You had said Singapore has also witnessed the involvement of great powers and so on. And it seems recently there's so much media and scholarly attention focusing on China's rise and growing influence in the region with so much focus on its land reclamation activities in the South China Sea, or it's economic state craft illustrated in the belt and road initiative or. B. r. I, and in a recent speech I notice from the summer, you discuss global trends that will shape Singapore's future. And one was the rise of China, but you cautioned that this term can sometimes be bandied about sort of loosely almost like a trope and you had vise that we strive to understand China's rise in its full complexity. What did you mean by that? Particularly in the southeast Asian context as a major Pala a major economy. Contiguous who's always Asia. China will always have significant influence in this region. Significant influence. However, that's not necessarily mean exclusive influence or even dominant influence besides sleep because we are a strategic crossroad says, I earlier mention Sally's Atia will be always the scene of major power competition. That means other palace abound to be present. The United States is here, and I think it's you're here to stay. Japan is, yeah, Australia, medium. Hala is ya? India is another major, Asian power contiguous to the region. It is deaf all strategically complex region. But in that complexity, gifts, the small states of salvager and remember the largest of us even Indonesia. Vietnam are still small by comparison to China or India or United States Japan because there will always be each of our present. That gives us the boss ability of maneuver Banu to Avante, saw own regional and national interests. One other point I think it is over overlooked that is China's rise is your political. But I think he starkly if you look at the history of salvation, there's never been a period except for short, an exceptional period of Japanese occupation during the second World War where any major power as dress, the region whole just too complicated to shape shifting region for any major Pala to claim exclusive dominates. I want to move to this question of sort of US China rivalry in a moment. But one of the question of on China in particular, I noticed that recently you've been raising concerns about China's policies on one issue in particular, its relations with some people say the overseas Chinese or ethnic Chinese populations in the region. What is at the root of your concern on this issue? And why is this potentially such a cigar. Efficient issue for south East Asia. Let me start with Singapore. So is the only sovereign state whose population was was population. The majority of the population are of ethnic Chinese origins. I have a fight uniquely in this region. Singapore is organized horizontally on the basis of a multiracial Verita Crecy. It's not buffet of perfection to be followed..
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"So I actually said foreign ministry and intending to leave, what's the of my bond to the gunman was over, but I forgot to leave. And then you know, the rest is history history. Well, that's great. Very interesting. If I can say that I actually had a Fulbright to Singapore in the nineteen eighty s at the National University of Singapore, and then later went to Columbia for my PHD. So I guess we have a little bit of a connection here. Oh, we just reversed then the university of became the National University, right? Right. It seems to me that south East Asia's typically described as a large diverse economically dynamic region comprised of eleven countries. He's almost all of which are members of the association of southeast Asian nations are often, but these countries aren't as well known. I think to most Americans say China or Japan, what should Americans know and understand about southeast Asia, and how is this change over the past thirty or forty years in terms of the role of the region, and where is it heading? Well, I surprisingly constantly surprise about holiday americ- most Americans noble salvager, and yet you fought the very long and costly war in this region, which while the immediate aims of the wall was not not met. In fact, it was a favorable you did. I type while the rest of the region to put out on house in order, and in that sense, laid the foundation of a fairly prosperous and certainly peaceful fairly peaceful region that you see today Salvatierra. Is not a natural region by which I mean something that can be defined with relations with self boy, upper Europe, Kennedy final with relation to self. So he's Asia. The only common feature is that there's nothing interesting to self is in fact, a geopolitical that came into white use only in the second World War of it, lies at the crossroads between the Pacific and Indian oceans is a very along very important trade routes, very important energy supply routes. And of course, militarizing strategic is significant rules. So it is always the at the center of major power contestation. At in the sixties in the late sixties before was Paul and even up to the early seventies, it was known as the Balkans of Asian because the peaceful region you see today was not something to be taken into forgotten. In fact, it would have been it would if you had predicted ninety seven when Osceola was formed, that we would be in the quite good condition we are today, you would have probably been dismissed as a dream or visionary, oh, and who's Natick, but kill ya. And. Intensity and tell us a little about Singapore in particular city state that seems to punch above its weight in East Asia and more generally, what are the foreign policy goals and priorities of Singapore, particularly this year when it serving as the OSCE on chair. Is as you said, a city state, it is a most improbable. So Rene tion of uninformed as did not themselves believe that we could city state could survive by itself. And so we sought independence only within Malaysia in ninety sixty treat, but.
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"Claims will but i thought of the rebounds policy setting very high bar and as a policymaker for a period of time in the policy planning staff at the state department i felt it always made us try to reach higher in terms of engagement in southeast asia so we have to sort of see as the indo pacific policy continues to be fleshed out and i think we see a high level of diplomatic engagement continued security engagement particularly on the maritime front bringing in india and so on ozzy on just wants to make sure that they're not crowded out that they're not sort of hyphen in a sense between the two sides of this broader region that's being described jonathan looking ahead then what kind of additional research will you be doing to help visitors to the brookings website to help policymakers to help listeners of this podcast understand and think about issues in south east asia well we have different plans personally i'm working as we often do here brookings on a book that is looking at china southeast asia relations as they've been evolving the last few years where they may go in the future and then what are the policy implications for both us policy towards southeast asia in general but perhaps the us china relationship in particular we're also looking to kind of expand our social media engagement and hopefully do some podcasts like this with experts from the region and ask them about the breaking issues whether it's the may kong the row hinge issue in myanmar and bangladesh and abroad set of other issues as well including elections coming up in indonesia for instance so we're looking to expand and do more and engage with top think tanks in the region through that process why invite you to come back on the show and continue this conversation to eliminate the issues in southeast asia it's fascinating region and we wanna learn more about it so jonathan thank you for sharing your time and expertise.
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"Australia uc kind of common support and perhaps a greater level of coordination of course the vietnamese i think are very deft at facilitating and cultivating this so it sort of there's a push and pull and kind of think organic way in which this is developing i sometimes see it new amis foreign policy as trying to balance china through greater relationships with other countries but going just far enough without provoking china because china will always be there ultimately they need a stable relationship with china so you mentioned the bombing ministrations rebalance some people have called it the pivot to asia policy that we heard about now we're hearing the trump administration in it state department especially as talking about the indo pacific region we've mentioned india couple of times here can you talk about the points of continuity but also the points of change with respect to us policy in southeast asia from the obama administration to the trump administration yeah i mean south east asia in the sort of is of us foreign policy toward asia has always i think kind of been a part of a larger strategic kind of footprint or strategy so sometimes there's a sense that southeast asia isn't taken as seriously in its own right as some southeast asian countries would like to see but we saw i think a marked change particularly during the obama administration where there was the launching initially was called informally the pivot eventually became the rebalanced policy and generally it was focused on modernizing treaty alliances in the region expanding bilateral relations with emerging partners many of which were in southeast asia like vietnam indonesia singapore which there was already a long standing relationship with and further afield as well india and they're critical aspect was supporting me on mars kind of opening and democratic.
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"Yes so ozzy on is made up of ten countries in southeast asia originally five when it was a salvage nineteen sixty seven and then gradually expanded to ten but there's also t more or less in southeast asia so all together there's eleven countries in the region or some of the tensions within the nation's within this region well frankly speaking a number of tensions are developing among the southeast asian countries in part because of china's dramatic rise in the last few years and overwhelmingly i think the media coverage focuses on the south china sea disputes the islands that china's building something their military bases or something right and there are four ozzy on claimants to these maritime waters the two that we hear most about is vietnam and the philippines but also malaysia and brunei and so china some would say has been sort of engaging in grey zone or salami slicing tactics with land reclamation and militarization of reefs and rocks and low tide features and so on and by salami slicing i think the allergy means they take a little bit at a time without ever kind of provoking a response or triggering outright conflict among the other claimants or perhaps their supporters but eventually the concern is they'll have defacto control over the long term and how to deal with this while these countries have very strong and nationalistic even concerns and manifestations over their claims to these islands while china is at the same time growing so strong economically in the region it has dominant trade relationships with these countries it is offering extensive for an aide and infrastructure investment which many of these countries really need.
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"Majority country vietnam is pushing a hundred million people now the philippines is already over one hundred million of course you've got smaller states like laos with six or seven million people and cambodia for instance which i think is at about sixteen million now so it really is a diverse region and one sort of acronym we often hear when we talk about southeast asia is option or the association of southeast asian nations which was established in nineteen sixty seven originally with five members and now it's extended to ten and taking together ozzy on countries boasts the third largest population in the world at about six hundred thirty million it's also the third largest economy in asia and the fifth in the world with the gdp of two point four trillion dollars and the fourth largest export region in the world and i think from a us perspective ozzy on is the top destination for us investment in asia as well so should we include india in the southeast asia region or his india its own yacht action india is in south asia as we think of it but there's increasing interaction between india and southeast asia and a long long historical and cultural relationship that goes way back in these kind of conversations about different places around the world like to try to focus on the places themselves without reference to us policy toward them we'll get into that later so let's stick with thinking about how these eleven countries of southeast asia interact with each other you mentioned ozzy on what other ways are they tied together economically culturally maybe or in terms of security.