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Nimai Delgado: The Bodybuilder Who's NEVER Eaten Meat - IMPAULSIVE EP. 65

Impaulsive with Logan Paul

1:08:38 hr | 1 year ago

Nimai Delgado: The Bodybuilder Who's NEVER Eaten Meat - IMPAULSIVE EP. 65

"I don't know little punks. Meanings means for the future civilization say. What are they suck, bro? We suck as it is humid sub besides you. And you and you maybe they say, oh, you're a scumbag. Talking about the new producer fucking hate. Have you ever tried sitting off the show for an extended time? Fancy new producers. Davis Billick we show. He comes in the first tries to kick. Mike off the fantail yours. Like, I'm pretty sure there say the opposite. Do what do you want home run sometimes and welcome back to a policy, by the way, the number one podcast in the world. And that is a fact that you guys are not subscribe, make sure to subscribe wherever you listen wash view podcasts, YouTube IT and Spotify. Whatever we do an extended audio cue Nate with the guests after the visuals done. So stick around for that. It's it's Susie. And we saw. Wow. Starting this off the split how many miles did you write today? One hundred and two you wrote one hundred and two miles on a bike has morning have either of your ass has ever died. Your ass at one time. I was in the Mediterranean. Ooh. Why? Yeah. My ass is currently did is it 'cause there's the bike. He is not comfortable. That's that's a big part of it. Yeah. Because then on a bike seat for five and a half hours. Look a lot of people are wondering why the fuck you did that. I don't know. You have no reason why you wrote one hundred miles triathlon coming up or anything. Anything to do with it nothing. Okay. Okay. Well, it was speaking of athletics and sports in Soros's, our guest at his dope. But he's he's he's he's awesome. Guys. I wanna bring them on. Introducing our guests. He is a vegan bodybuilder whose muscles have muscles. He's been featured in muscle, and fitness and he's never eaten meat in his life ever ever. That's a fact, ladies and gentlemen, it's Nima. Delgado. You've never eat meat in your life. Now, never come on, not even a little tab. Are you sure one hundred percent positive? That's crazy. How how does that happen? Like, what are your? What are your parents be like when you went to go get a cheeseburger at Denny's or something like what would they get? You never got cheeseburgers at Denny's. Both of my parents are vegetarian. So that's how I was raised me. My my brother and my sister all vegetarian. Okay. Wait. Let's let's clarify meat real quick eggs. No, no eggs. No fish. No. Are you fucking? Yeah. We don't get me wrong. When I was when I was older. I'd there was a period where I tried to eggs. And like when I was growing up there were some products that had like eggs baked into it. I wasn't like two particular about that. But now that like obviously the last few years like no egg products whatsoever. No meat chicken fish. That's nuts. I want to dive into that. But I look at this man's physique. Ladies. Gentlemen, specific ladies, you are ripped out of your mind. Your muscles have muscles. This is crazy, man. Good for you. I have a question are there. More dudes or women sliding in your in near DM's dudes. Are you serious? One hundred percent, no way. Auditors percent. Dudes one hundred percent. Better understand this. Oh, she's the ratio. I would say probably seventy thirty. Wow, girlfriends so that that problem never stopped. Anybody? Never stop. The thing is you what do you mean? It seems like a stop you from from taking advantage of any of the like manual. No to be honest. Most of the DMZ get our people asking for advice. Okay. And it's mainly guys that want to build must oh not trying to hit on, you know. Okay. No. There's definitely guys. And and ladies that come in the DMZ, and you know, make their pass. But you know, I got a girlfriend, and I don't swing that other way. No. So the asking for advice, your good person, ask advice, do you obviously? How do I get those muscles? Do I have to be vegan and never meet because I'm way past at no, anybody can build muscles. But I mean, it just takes years of training. I've been working out since I was sixteen seventeen. And this is just, you know, ten years after the fact, you know, I feel like you're sort of at home you sort of in a comfortable place. Now, we got a lot of vegans with you surrounded by spend spender is Janka. Yup. Beyond trae. They actually Andre Andre like we're outnumbered by vegans right now. Is there a transcendent? No, no. Is there is there more I over there? Okay. So we're not out in November. Ratio is set here. So. Hey, we all speaking. Plant based. What's it like being vegan in the fitness community? Is there a stigma against the type of muscle? You can build it. How much of a you can build. Yeah. There's definitely a stigma. I would say I mean in the fitness community is a little bit. It's harder to like help people understand that you can build muscle, right? First of all people like have trouble building muscle in general. And then they see like a vegan that has any significant muscle mass. And then they're like, oh, this is fucking bullshit. Like, it's real it's real it's real plant based. Yeah. It's. Soft at first. But when you flex gets hard and do all more time moly by unflexible on find it looks like a walnut that I take this is massive we zoom in on that looks like someone's stucco football in your arm. We use we use protein on the meat eater side. To gain muscle. Do use photosynthesis gained muscle from the sun is our oil. That's where I'll protein is link originated. So technically. Yeah. Secondhand shaken hands on the planet. Are you? You also really into like the biology of how. Yeah, you know, what I never started off like this was like never goal of mine. Mike, my background. And when I went to school for was engineering, and they saved dude. Yeah. Yeah. What which one industrial and systems? Okay. I did mechanical tight. Yeah. We got a little bit of industrial. Bill gates. I hated it. Totally bro out later over some just go. Gosh, everywhere build like a bridge or something. Now. Now, we're not qualified. Pecan build it himself. He could just hall all the materials and I'll true. Sure. But yeah, no, I never I never intended to like be in this industry. Oughta that's the thing. So from the biological or biological perspective. Like understanding what works they add. It's interesting to me. But it was never like a goal of mine, but to be honest after getting so many questions online that you kind of have to understand things a little bit better. So you can explain to people. What is the most common question that you're you're being asked protein for sure like how do I how do I go vegan and not loose size. How do I go vegan stay healthy? How do I go to build muscle? Is it healthy? Do I have to supplement? Can you get all of your central nutrients and vitamins from vegan diet, that's majority of or I want to build muscle lose weight at the same time, you know, the standard, and you have answers to all these questions. Yeah. Of course, I'm gonna ask one right now go so little personal anecdote. We've talked about on the show before I I was vegan for four months last year. I was down to try anything anything and anything. Now. I mean got. I know I just said it twice, but not anything. But I was I was in a point in my life where I was like searching, the fine myself a little more. And so I was just experimenting with different diets, a my relationships with people, etc. And I went vegan for four months. This was also while I was training for the for the boxing fight. And I went to a nutritionist how to shift it had a chef. And she made I think it was like eight to ten thousand calories a day the right amount of protein, everything I was doing it like perfect except my muscles began eating themselves. I had to drag myself out of bed this morning. I was sleeping twelve hours a day training with miserable. I ended up looking gone. Like, I might as well have been a skeleton, and I was getting a mentally affected by like, I was depressed. Like, my friend Georgie sat me down. He was a goat. Are I have asked you depress? And he asked me if it was because of my diet, and I said, no. But I was clearly affected by being vegan. Does everyone. React. To being vegan the same way. Is it possible? You open to the idea that being vegan isn't for everyone. Or you think maybe I did something wrong to be honest with? No, yeah. One hundred I'm like real when it comes to this stuff. You know, like, everybody's different. Do you know everybody's bodies respond differently? And everybody has a different internal cues that respond differently to food. So for you. You know, your situation might have been a little bit unique to you because you were training quite used that you're training for a box four hours a day at four hours. That's a long time. It'd be training and on top of that you're eating a brand new diet that you probably weren't accustomed to be like, what was your dia before that the I mean the exact opposite? It was still very healthy. But lots of meat based protein. Yeah. Yeah. The nutritionist said that one of the only problems was that you were working out too much what he said. Yeah. But but I wonder on a regular diet like would the results chefs switch to throw out names. But definitely got better agree agree. Yeah. After that switch. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a few different factors there. Overtraining is definitely a possibility. And but also like adapting to that new diet like and then going full force into like ultra training mode for this fight. Right. So if you've been eating healthy right now twenty four twenty four so if you've been eating that way for twenty three years of your life. And then all of a sudden you do like a hard left and do something completely different. Like, your body has to adapt in order for you to even create the environment to simulate those nutrients, so there could have been maybe a lack of assimilation from some of the nutrients, you were you were eat or like the food you're eating, but also like giving your body enough time for like your micro by to adjust because if you eat microbiome. Yeah. So basically, we all have bacteria in our digestive system. And based off of the food you feed it, you will kind of like, cultivate, different environments that could be more suited for digesting plants or more suited for digesting meat. How long is that process? Is it different for everyone? It's different for everybody. It's like the the best way. I heard it described as like, it's. Fingerprint? It's unique to everybody. So depending on how long you've eaten a certain way will kind of be like the deciding factor of how long it could take you to adapt to a new diet. Gotcha. I don't know if this is a myth, but people who eat meat. I'm sure this can happen from plants to it's been said that you have parasites that can, you know, be in your stomach and those have to get flushed out when you switch over is that a myth as. I mean, I mean definitely animals carry parasites. Right. And if you ingest animals, you could possibly digest those parasites as well, and you could develop some, you know, parasites in your body, but it's more about like the bacteria in your body. And whether or not that is able to because I mean, that's like that's like the first place. It goes it goes into your digestive system and gets into your stomach. And now, we're all these things live and your digestive track. And that's what's like absorbing nutrients in giving them the place to go where they need to go. So if you don't have the right bacteria, you physically can't like, okay what what type of vegetables. Did you start eating like when you went vegan for those four months? What was your diet? Like, it was great. I mean, I wanna fiber a lot of gas. It was perfect to be honest with you like again, I made sure every day. I was eating a certain amount of a certain food, veggie, whatever it was. You almost dot. I almost died die actually at one point. He says he has really nice platform dead right now. And there was at one point he tried to order a crypt. He was going to start sleeping, laying cough it, and I was like dude something about this doesn't seem like the right place talk. Talk like I'm turning into a fucking plant. Are you one of the vegans who who is pressing the vegan movement on the non vegans or do try to educate the ones who are to do the best that they can? Yeah. I'm all about meeting people where they are. You know, like, I okay. So I grew up in a bit of a unique environment. So I grew up obviously eating vegetarian, but I grew up in south Mississippi, and like my both, my parents, one of the reasons why I was raised vegetarian is because both of my parents are or Hindu. So they're from Argentina converted from Catholicism Hinduism crazy. Yeah. This they went from a temple in Argentina. And basically went from Argentina to Brazil Brazil to south Mississippi of all places because they had a temple farm light community down there, and it was literally like a bubble. So inside of that bubble was Cal sanctuary. We had our own garden self-sustaining garden, we had a temple. What's that you're Amish? No, not not not. Like, a horse and wagon still trysofi I mean, it was just like a very like humble place where everybody kind of did their own service and just a faith based community have that big beard like with high again. That's Amish told me he was on. I know I've made mistakes. Sorry. It was more like women wearing saris, and and ornamental Doty's. And like, you know, what you've seen India? Oh that's in south Mississippi. Whoa. Are you still Hindu? Yeah. No way. Oh, I don't think I've ever met. This is the first false. Know, you said Jay on the show into Fischetti second. Jay. Jay J Alvarez. What I learned very young from a Hindu teaching that eating was the way, ready and. Could be the back. See Alvarez being a good Hindu believe it for a second. Dang, man. That's crazy this. Oh, okay. Because when he first said said south, Mississippi, I was thinking while it seems like a place that not a lotta vegans are, but you're saying it was a little tight knit community. Oh, yeah. But it was I mean at that in that community is vegetarian. Okay. Okay. So no meat. No fish, no, eggs, nothing like that. But just they would include dairy products, so dairy that was derived from like the milk from the cows that lived on the farm. So it's something called a hymns of milk. So a hymns is like the concept of compassionate nonviolence. And that's the way that well it used to be the case in India where they would treat the cows with love and respect because they saw it as like almost like a not like they just they they tried to treat it with as much respect as possible. So obviously now things have changed with factory farming and everything else, but in in that farm, they would raise them they wouldn't sell off the Cavs or anything like that. And then whenever the cow would produce mill. Whenever is pregnant, then they would milk it and then serve the community. James Ashby told us some pretty horrifying stuff about the way. They they get milk from cows via faculty farm lobby stuff ended up getting like disputed online. Like, I I had a lot of people reach out to me about kind of fear mongering not to say that that stuff's not happening. But like people one person works for the top distributor of meat in the United States. And was just like yo this is all not happening in our like I-. He's like, I'm one of the handlers at the company. This is all none of this is true. It's fear mongering on the part of the against to get people to switch out of meeting. I'm not saying that's true. But like I took a lot of the stuff that James especially said with with a grain of salt because he really served it up in the most horrifying sense ever. I'm not saying that's not happening. But I don't think it's happening at the rate that my question would be I'm sure it's happening somewhere that these stores are derived, right? So so I think there places is too many plot. But that's not. Not going to decide that. I'm just saying I I don't want to focus on the meat industry as inhumane industry and say that it has it's happening everywhere when it is probably a select new places. Well, don't get me wrong. I mean, you can you can milk cow. Like, just, you know, go into a field a milk a cow. But if you the thing of the problem is when you scale it, right? And you have such high demands that you have to make things operate more efficiently. Yeah. You have to automate you have to have systems in place, you industrial engineering. Right. You understand the concept? Like that was one of the reasons why I went vegan in particular was because at the time, I was an engineer, and I had moved to California, and I had seen a video of kind of what goes on behind a dairy industry and seeing all the mechanical systems that are in place to make this operation run efficiently. Smoothly into you know, increase their profits. And I just thought to myself I was like man, this is is so similar to what I was doing at the time. But for a totally different industry like I worked in the oil industry. So my when my responsibility was to optimize their systems for gas plant. And the plants looked very similar. So I thought to myself like man, I'm sitting here working for this company. Trying to you know, make things operate more smoothly. Save money save costs. And there's the dairy industry. That's doing the same thing at the expense at the expense of animals with no respect and no regard to their wellbeing. So that's when I made the decision to just kind of cut out dairy altogether. What's your age Nema twenty nine twenty nine? Yeah. And you look so young. That's vegan skin glow. I've got you. Both have it y'all are always blowing all all over half the time you are hung over. Counter counter that point we had a we had one of their friends roll back on veganism, and he was vegan the whole time. We knew him, and he was always like a pale kind of like walking around this. He came back, and I'm like damn, bro. Yet fucking olive oil skin. He was golden Brown. Like, he just came out of the three seventy five. I was thinking about taking on a date, and I'm over he's talking about John. So he ate cheese though. What a what a fun, and she's hey, hey. Are you are you still friends with him? Because of course, are you? Sure. And no. This week. He said when he told you to that. He's he goes he goes Logan. I'm actually not eating anymore. I saw your guys is. Woller? Don't get me wrong. It was a shock because out of all the people to like do that him was a shock. But now, I'm I'm not I'm not going to be judgmental. I think it's like the same reasoning for me is the demand for like, even if you look at what Leonardo Di Caprio puts in his films, like the demand for me is just not sustainable. There's going to come a point in our near future. Like little Dicky's video. He's talking like twelve years. That's what they're saying. You know, that's what scientists are saying. That's how much time we have. I think that point is coming. I I'm curious like, what do you guys think about that short time on I want to hear his answer for? Yeah. No. I think we're growing at unsustainable rate people are living longer and they're eating more. Right. And it takes land to provide those resources of people in most of the majority of the farmland is fed to animals to feed to human. So it's like there has to be some change there in like, obviously, not eating the animals is a really good place. A start that everybody can kind of like, you know, take ownership of that. So I mean, it's our future generations that we're talking about not necessarily our lifetime. I don't expect to see it in our lifetime. But if you want your kids or your grandkids, your, you know, your grandkids grandkids to have a planet where they can enjoy and have the same type of luxuries that we had been like we have to do something about it. Like, it's hard to this. She's probably shouldn't say this. I'll stay. No. It's just like. To picture. My grandkids grandkids like darling, give a shit about them. What if they suck? What like what are they suck? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just I don't know. I don't know a little punks. Just meanings means for the future civilization say. What are they suck, bro? We suck as it is humid suck besides you. And you and you maybe they say. Oh, you're a scumbag. And you have to admit that United. I mean, we all suck on many different levels saying nobody's perfect. You know what I mean? You know, what I mean like individually, we can make small change, and it makes a grand it makes a grand scale different. That was the question. I was going to ask to is like how do you decide like what? 'cause I love compassion towards animals that love animals, but like does that take you away from doing things like what do you drive for for example? I drive a Jeep like do you are you are you concerned about climate change at all. Yeah. Of course. But I, but I know you're doing more for climate change by not eating me. I do know that because I've we've talked about those synthetics, and I believe those, but it's just sometimes like, I get a feel over inundated. Like there's a homeless person right there. There's a there's like sometimes like someone like me who's not as conscious as you to in terms of like stuff that's happening outside of the business world or the influence our world, or whatever I get over inundated and shut down. And I. That's a great. I think a lot of people are like. Yeah. And that's when it does get overwhelming to because there are so many different things, you could be passionate about you could make a difference in this world in and like to me it can get overwhelming to like which avenue. Do you? Choose like, do I just stop doing everything altogether because it obviously leaves some kind of footprint, but for me, it's like it's like making those small changes, you know, you can make the light bulbs in your house, and you can drive a Nico car. You can do all those things you can recycle. But you know, the studies show that like the biggest difference you can make just by choosing. What you eat because everybody eats. And you do it four five six times a day in some cases. So like choosing where you invest your money is supporting those companies, so even if you're choosing to invest your money into more conscious capital companies that are making it shift and making a change maybe not overnight. But that's like the kind of direction we need to go. Because obviously, we've created a system that isn't sustainable, and it's been working for the past hundred years, but not for the next hundred. So it's up to like people like us do the younger generations to use our voice, and maybe even inspire the future generations to be the next politicians that come in and make serious change Nima. I feel so useless when it's when it's just me recycling or eating a plant based diet. I the thought that plagues my mind is how much of a difference in. I mean, Logan singular truly making right now. We'll let me put it this way. Like, one of my favorite quotes of all times is like what can I do? I'm just one person said a million people. Right. So when you phrase it that way, if everybody makes a small change in a million people make a change that's a huge difference. Right. So you just have to trust if the trust that there are some good people out there making changes, just like you. Yeah. I mean, you can't control what everybody else is doing. The only thing you control is yourself and your actions in thoughts. And what you do, you know? So like to give you an example late. I posted a video about this recently about like the impact from just like the food you eat from like, an animal perspective and resource perspective. So most people are really like infatuated with bodybuilding infatuated with protein intake in the normal amount is how much. How much how much protein should you get produced sixty grand per two point two kilograms sixty s so it's made that thirty sixty grams sixty grams so that's for like your your average like regular normal person. Right for like an athlete that's trying to build muscle. Normally you hear like the one to two gram range. Right. It's like one hundred ninety pounds you need at least double that to build muscle. Right. So if you were like for me, I weighed on a wait one eighty right now. But I did like like last year. You know what I mean? So that's I would get about one hundred and fifty so like, you know, a fraction of that. I wouldn't even get up to two one gram per pound of protein, but most guys are eating two to three times that that our one eighty to try to put on muscle in like the amount of like animal protein that people consume like most of the time. The bodybuilding fitness night is like chicken fish eggs in the morning. Grass-fed steak, you know, wash it down with the way protein, shake all every single one of those are dry from animals. So if like for simplicity sake if you were to just get your protein from one source like chickens, you would need at least one chicken per day. You know, so at least one animal privee, just if you were to get strictly all your protein from chicken. Now, if you do that every single day or two times that much that you're talking about over seven hundred chickens per year and not only that but it's the resources that's embedded into those chickens. Right. You got a raise you got. Yeah. You gotta you gotta you gotta raise the crops to feed the chicken. You gotta have the water to feed the crops to feed the trickiest tation the gas all that. Yeah. I mean, all that stuff is just like extrapolated in the mic the reduction like or the inefficiency between the amount of energy and resources, it takes to raise the chicken is like it can be as bad as fifteen to one or five to one in something like depending on the animal, I think beef is six to one. So it's like you're you're putting in six times more effort just to get one gram of animal protein. I think I think one of the biggest reasons celebrities and end like influencers feel the pressure of responsibility. Anymore than average folks is I mean at the end of the day, he's a taste maker. And so while he says, I'm just one guy technically fifty million guys. No. But if you start spurting out that knowledge of what, you know, eating plants, and like doing all these good things lead to technically a lot of your fans are going to do the same thing. So I think you're a huge scumbag for not. For not doing anything. He's allowing the space for people to talk about it, which is just as shirt, right? She did it for four months for months and still speak highly about it. Like, I think there's. Honestly, I think everyone should try being being vegan. And I mean the. That concern. And the reason I voiced it is because like, bro, even me not to be cocky. But even me like, I do have a voice, and I could make a difference. And I know that even me that still thought is that thought still in my mind so imagine Jimmy in Kansas, bro. How does he feel when he when he's the one person in his town that doesn't want to eat meat? Everyone's calling him soil soy every call Jimmy soy Jimmy where. Boy, you're soy to on that shit was gonna call him. Buddy at least online everybody. Everybody calls. Everybody. Sit on my. From impulsive. For the first time somebody's calling me soy in real life. So thank you. Said it. Fight. Good. I think one of the issues with telling people to try to go vegan. And I'm curious to hear from you it there's so many different people out there, promoting vegan diet. But then not a lot of them are actually really well informed. I've found there was actually one that was promoting of of raw vegan diet, and she got caught eating fish. I saw recently because she was having health issues. But like there's so much science that one hundred percent, raw vegan diet is not healthy. Like long terms outta the term there's a lot of health issues. So like, how do you know like just telling someone to try veganism is like to me that's very dangerous. 'cause there if they don't do it in an informed way, something that were I've learned where I've scaled back on telling people to go vegan is that's a it's a huge conversation is not just as simple as I'm just gonna stop eating me. 'cause then you might go to store by some blood is by some things that aren't going to give you broke your nutrients you actually gonna get legit. Sick. Yeah. Think about it. I mean, you're changing your lifestyle. You've got a certain way for twenty something years. Like, you've got it down like, you know, what to do. And if you change your lifestyle overnight, you wouldn't build a house with no blueprints. Right. You would at least try to like I mean, I could I'm and you can build a shitty house unless you're like a genius. And you just figured out along the way. The highest I q in the house is true. But I believe you I believe you can tie. But it's like you have to do the research behind it. And you have to inform yourself before you make such a big decision because you can just be like, okay? What have you can eat? They don't eat this this in that. But they don't necessarily think of all the other things that they could he it's more of like, I can't eat this. But they don't frame it was like, I can't even all this. You know? So I mean, you can just start off by slowly eliminating like, I think raw food diets are for some people. That's like the far end of the spectrum. Right. Like, I don't promote a raw diet. I don't think it's the best diet for for anybody. You know, things raw as dangerous a lot of times, very true. And sometimes you have to really think sometime, I mean, sometimes you have to cook food to get the nutrients and a lot of times, it feels good, you know, but it could harm you. Stay away from Grozny raw. Great great. But it's also dangerous. But I I mean, I don't I don't think Iran diet is is the way to go. And every time you say that word don't want to call something else on cooks. Yeah. But I mean, okay for her for example. I mean, there's a lot of factors that we probably don't know about her. You know, she she built her platform on, you know, selling this is essentially like this her livelihood. So I could see the conflict with somebody like her to not wanna come out and say, hey, no longer vegan guys. You know? That's a lot of like as influencers I can relate to her. You know, I can empathize for that. It's a big pressure. It's a lot of opinions. You know, but it doesn't necessarily mean that the that the diet is the the source, you know, could be a lot of personal issues then went on with that person. And just the same way that you know, everybody's unhealthy in a sense. You know, but it it tends to be the the outliers that get you know, more publicity. You know, there's a million people that are dying from disease and heart disease, and cardiovascular issues or diabetes and things like that that are derived for meat, but it's just like kind of just like that's just how it is. But you know, when a vegan comes out and says, hey, I wasn't healthy because of it for like really personal reasons than it's like, Aw that beacon diet as. It's for anybody. It's selective. Yeah. I feel like I feel like people have trouble with it. Because it's such a drastic not not. It's not as drastic as you would think it is. But like the thought of not eating me is so drastically different from what we've done as a human civilization forever. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it's just a lot to swallow. Yeah. Well, I mean in reality like the like the industry like the industrial age, they really helped to scale up how much meat we're eating for generations. And civilizations before us. It was more. Like, you know, a delicacy rather than a staple for every meal? So that's probably why you know, they didn't see the same type of disease that we did. And again that scale ability problem that I was telling you about factory farming. It it's producing like, you know, things that we haven't seen in in the past. So even like, okay, there's an there's a study for what was it the gladiators like this study that shows the gladiators were predominantly vegetarian. So it's like, and those are like some of the most bad ass people in history. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And they were vegetarian. So it's like it's more like, you know, it was more like. A supplement to their diet rather than like, the staple of their diet. So we've been eating plants are entire existence to are a heavy vegan. And you go to the gym often. How how often by the way it's like once a day once a day. Do you have a meal? Yeah. What is that she meal? How can you have fun if for night man, fed LA? It's it's an easy really easy. I'm not gonna lie. There's some really good vegan desserts. What's what's yours? I don't have much of a sweet tooth. But I do like like the raw vegan cheesecake like. Yeah. No strong. I do. Oh, I think your sister brought at once I'm for shot up onto a sister. I thought we had one from veggie grill the other day that wasn't as good so umbrella back does it was a character. Okay. They're delicious. Cookies through the chocolate chip cookies. Realistically, you could eat all the same foods that you normally eat that have been vegan is now there's so many alternative meats that are available. You can have you can pizza. You can have you can chicken wings. You can have the buffalo wings and everything, you know. Okay. So you're in a relationship with that girl over there him. Yeah. Abe doing she on social media as well. Yes. She is. You guys have like what's it like being so attractive to so many people and getting so much attention does that ever mess with the relationship in any way? I mean, I feel like you should know, you know, you probably get a lot of attention from people and people try to like it is it is challenging like. Okay. When we first started dating, we didn't really talk about it or publicize it at all. Because we knew that we had to first of all get to know each other. You know, better when we first started talking, we are like across the country, and when we first met and like met in person, we will know still getting to know each other to we weren't gonna blast each other all over social media, and then just have people insert their opinion. And whenever also. Yeah, it can be challenging for sure. But as long as you have that open hitting on her often celebrities, you name, it NFL players side into this who's into the let them know who's defense. Dance dance. Football players rappers from the actors. Let's say math from the eagles falls. Is that what you said I wore that the MC pick that shit up. She's you heard it here. So do you have Janka in the love sack of rules for each other? Like like this post is too sexy too revealing you have to about me once a week. Now, I take I take like ninety five percent of her pictures and most of them, she's half-naked. Do you give him photographs? Sometimes. Due yellow her what she doesn't give you photograph. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I do that. But it's like a ton of guys and girls hit on her too. But it's like as long as you have that open line of communication in like, you're not hiding anything. And you're just like open with each other. Then you don't have anything new. What's their what's the difference in follower count between the two? I don't even know. All you, don't she's got more. She's got obviously, she's got more. I didn't know that. Do you? Do you throw? You got lady. Half a Miller something. Do you think in in this age of social media that the person who wears the pants can sometimes be dictated by our count the person who wears the pants can be dick like like if you're like going on my boys night? And she's like, oh, yeah. You're gonna want your voice. Five hundred twenty thousand followers. Go out meet tonight. So why don't you sit down and watch Grey's anatomy? Eat plants. How that works. Not quite we don't really go out that much anymore, of course, ingratiate. Yeah. I mean, not I wouldn't say it's like that. Right bay. No. I mean, we we do most of the things together. Anyway. So of course, it's not like fucking. Look at you guys kissing underwater. What's that like who took this picture? My boy Reese shall REEs. I was in Bali as she's she's actually known for her tattoo on her. But you see it was the say Vegas says. Our our type of girls it would say. Not. I'm not might might sorry. Once my girls. I'm just looking for a nice nice girl row. This. I I know a lot of this. When you work out for photo shoots. You really? Yeah. Me when I see her in the gym, okay? To be honest. We'd go to the gym every day together. But since we have two separate goals. Like, she goes her way, I go my way, and then we'll see each other, and we'll run into each other and give you know, a kiss here and there, but it's not like we're like that or not one. I'm not sure couples, you know, it's really wraps her legs. And I do pull up now, we've never filled one of those videos, and I don't think we're going to respect level. Just went up. So tell you know, there's a lot of unhappy meeting fat people not talking about myself dad bonds that see Jim couples and they've said man alive. Jim couple getting destroyed nowadays, you know, that now online running joke. Fringing? It's pretty cheesy. But you know, to be honest, it's really convenient because she does social media. I do social media. We're both in fitness industry. She takes all my videos. I take all her video. So it's like it's a win win for everybody. That is awesome. So you just spoke at Google, right? Yeah. Back in January. I believe so why why is Google having you come speak? What's going on? I think I know was having to do with me getting back on Google preferred. That's what I was saying. Is that what it was? Yeah. That's they wanted me to get you to get back on their so. That's good. Speech for it. Thank you so much. What else? Did you talk about this speech? Besides that. Which is a fact talked about I talked about a little bit more of my life kind of like my background. And then how I use that background to kind of be at the place where I'm at now. Because like I've been asked my entire life like growing up vegetarian and Mississippi. It wasn't the most open minded relations like environment. If that makes sense, you know, growing up in school. It was really tough. You know, I had to bring my own school or bring my own lunch to school every day. My mom pack my lunch box, and I'd open it up, and it's just like straight Indian food every single day because that's what they cooked. So, you know in south, Mississippi, nobody eats Indian food. Nobody knows like nobody's even seen or heard of it. So it's like the moment you open it up all this flavor, and and smells and things come out. And this is like. Jio? What's that? What are you eating? And then I have to explain like why there's no meat, and it's just like this constant conversation. I had my entire life. And it was just like so overwhelming for a young kid that just wanted to fit in that knew he was so different. Like, let's face it. My parents are from Argentina. I wasn't raised in our Indian, by the way, no one another. They're they're white both neither their straight up from Argentina. You know, they speak Spanish. So it's like in my household. I spoke Spanish, but I was following a Hindu religion. So I was surrounded by Indians. And then outside of that bubble. I was in the deep south of Mississippi, which was like Southern Baptists very like proactive preaching like evangelists, and like like to be honest. It was really challenging were the enemy. I was just so different on so many levels. And I didn't have that sense of identity that I didn't feel like I fit in with the with the Hindus because we're white Argentina's spoke Spanish, I didn't feel like I fit in at school because I was Nima. Yeah. Like do that was the weird Hindu name kid, eight vegetarian food neon? Then it's like I had to I had to constantly like find who. I. Was and be comfortable with it. But part of that process for me was just like not talking about who I was. So I just like became like, a chameleon and essentially just live that way all the way up until a college. You know, my friends knew little bit more about my life and things like that. Why didn't eat meat, but it wasn't until I like really came into my own like when I was like twenty twenty four twenty five where I started talking about these things vocally because I I felt enough like like I felt comfortable enough with who I was that nobody could questioner attack that. And that's kind of what led me into speaking about it publicly online, and and having these questions and not being afraid to just throw up in his mouth on the podcast. And he is. Stay on board him that much. I'm I'm not sure I've never seen you throw up your mouth like what did you just do? Was there your word? I don't know what avid, bro. Can you describe it? I think it's because I was biking and like did you really throw up? No. You're about to expose Donald died. Hamstrings intact must be vegan. Dan, I think so we'll see who wants to kick off the show after this episode. That's pretty fucked up onto Cali Florida. That's man, I feel bad food when it's it like as a vegan kid trying to follow a vegan diet in school. Right as possible. Yeah. I would say it's probably a lot more available in. It was back in the day. There's probably a lot more options. Now, I don't know what they serve at school lunches to be honest. A pizza boat pizza boat. You guys get to go sick. Oh my God. Danny can you? Please order some Bosco sticks for the house and make sure they're vegan Bosko's. You don't have to be. If you only the non vegan. He said they need to be. Bosko sticks comment below please. If you remember Bosco sticks own gonna got days every Friday, bro. You just ditman. The thing is. Wow. Bro. Somebody gift that that double-handed Bosco Gluck Gluck. Gift that Rogin smiley. I'm looking actually. That is interesting thing to look back on. It was like how asked food was in Michigan and Ohio and for you. You see I was forty two years before cafeteria worse than it was every day was the same options cheeseburgers pizza boats and cheeseburger, pizza votes, those three probably left high school like four hundred sixty two pounds. I diabetes. This is it's a serious their bomber. Yup. Great lady. Shouts out, Michelle. She did a lot of work trying to get better food into schools. I just say what I think about Trump, but he loves McDonalds. He serves the sports stars. Mcdonald's house we change up the food pyramid to and by the way. All your man, we did something there. Yeah. When I was cutting weight for wrestling, and even football, you know, we'd have our games at the end of the day at the end of the school day, wrestling, we'd weigh in at the end of the day. I always found it so difficult to either a not eat for the wrestling weigh ins or try to eat healthy for the football games. It's next to impossible in in small like middle America or like, mid west cities healthy is like what is healthy and those air. What are they what it's I believe? Desert. It's a place where there's no healthy options. It's just McDonald's arby's bird like that's all. I have for miles. Not Taco Bell was healthy. When I was by the way. Ways don't know start talking about talk about a bad way right now. Oh, you don't. Okay. Okay. Shocking dice. He's fell is the MOS on Mexican food on the planet. According to crunch boxes available for. Sponsored talk about what about del taco. That's like a west coast thing. Then he goes he goes, what is del taco? I described as like a cheap Taco Bell kinda is it's just they just they just offered the beyond meat crumbles at del taco. Way beyond me is what exactly beyond meat is an alternative plant based version of chicken. They have beef have beef crumbles. So that's the deal that they struck with us as pla- it's plan based. Yeah. I think it's P P isolate or soy ice credit to is like the main ingredient, and then the rest, I think I mean, there's I didn't look at the full menu is yawning list the brand because there's the burger right? Yeah. Yeah. Same. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Like maverick maverick made a B burger is that that's different than the impossible yet. Yeah. It's different. Totally different. Burger King picked up. Did you see that a Walker now? I think so just came out. Like I saw today. Subway came out with a vegan symbol house. Junior. I think the conversations going to get more interesting with this nipsy film, getting put out to did you did you guys see during his funeral or his the the celebration of life? His was I think it was his mother encourage everyone in the audience too. Oh, really? Yeah. Because the documentary vegan. He was I think he was actually he might have been vegan towards the end. He was talking about it a lot because the film he's doing on Dr CBI is a holistic doctor from Honduras. I believe and. Yeah, the documentary. He's doing this. This guy Dr CBI discovered that a vegan alkaline diet was curing like aids. Like all of these diseases like reversing them, and he got attacked for it. And then defended it and one. So he was able to keep making those claims he will he was vegan for a bit, by the way, what he type in was nifty hustle. The first thing is was nipsy hustle vegan. Yeah. So I think that's just because Google's listening also. No they ours. And we have proof of that. Unless you let us back on preferred to actually, no, no, we don't please leave me alone. Don't harm me or my family. I'm sorry. I don't know anything. They literally press a button, and Alexa will just get up into. Yes. Slap your family Skynet ahead with a vegan. You are. You allowed to have fun as if he can of course. Yeah. How do you have fun? How do you have fun playing? I drink him party of my friends in Dez I used to do that. I mean, we still we still partying and dance with our friends. We were just in Bali, and we had like an epic tie, y'all sober. Yeah. No. I mean, it's like it's like we don't put like a label on it. Like, I I think the last time I drank was like a year ago or something like that. But it just doesn't it doesn't serve me anymore in college though. I went to LSU and callers like that was my shit like I drink every single weekend the weekend started on Thursday and ended on Wednesday. You know, that was running a beer pong table, bro. I always beer pong check. And see was champ back in the actually I'm sorry. Don't even try. No, I'm so sorry. I can't hear you. It happened it happened. And I have proof that I will pull up at some point. Go ahead. I won the beer pong championship. My junior year old milk championship. It wasn't beard. It was a beer Jack in my full savage. Is you sent it for a part of your did, bro? Yeah. Champion Dr a gopher you d- one. My fraternity fans out there. You're gonna watch that part. Fucking what I believe I believe it Spencer show me some stuff. He did when he was younger you were wild, man. Was you remember that voice over you made of your teachers you want to explain that. I really want to at some point release that to the world Spencer show me a video. I'm not I'm not going to get too. Crazy. You show me a video of you making like a promo for your school. And your teachers were talking is. So is my principal and vice principal and that they were off. They're awful. Nobody likes. Nobody likes you might as well just on a voiceover. Making them say look at the Dicks on the wall. He took a video them talking. And then just what's it called role? They dumped it over. Anyway, we're getting crazy off off topic here. Can you be to Jack Jack? Yeah. I think there's a there's a fine line between being too jacked know, I competed in. Yeah. I mean that was that was right before. Bodybuilding contest the Arnold. You guys are from Ohio. I went to the island. I was this close to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Yeah. He's a cool guy. But that was right before the Arnold. So that's like peak condition actually right before. So that was peak week so before starting drying out or Shiva got ASA wipes. You're too big. You can't wipe through now. I mean, you look at me. I'm not like a crazy like, Phil. He like one of those like. You draw the line though. Like when you start having trouble getting that Sharman up there. You know, I think he's about. Three ply toilet paper available at your stores flex keep coming. No. I think I think if somebody wants to get that big. Then by all means, do whatever you want to do to get that big for me. I like to like, look a certain way and beyond that. Yeah. I'm saying this this. Oh, okay. But we'll find a real one God like this. Are they doing steroids? Is that dude? Doing a steroid that man. Like come on, man. This. Of course, he's doing steroids his face vans. Look at his legs. I mean, there's definitely a strong possibility can imagine as might as well be oak trees, I could imagine that dude stepping on buildings. Can you just imagine for a second? Like just what if what if one of them is just like tally? Are are. Joe Rogan talked about this girl's into these types of bodies anymore. I don't know there's there's someone out there forever. Yeah. That's right. You go to those Expos. I mean, you've been a fitness expo all those guys have girls like hanging on there arm. A wanted all of them to punch me in the face, the girls and the guys the guys kind of gross to its does happen. You know, what you know, what I've noticed about the girls that belong to those guys. It's either usually a really small very small like blonde chick, and she's just getting dominated by this massive behemoth Godzilla, man, you know, what my favorite one, it's a girl. That's as big as them like the giant bodybuilder? Yeah. The guy from game of thrones game of thrones. Yeah. The mountain and his girlfriend Mouna his girlfriend. This is incredible. Wow. Strong fucker. Damn he has to just by to be close to be fair. She's probably like five seven. No. I mean that isn't that guy like six seven years. By the way, huge by the way, I got a DM from him on Instagram him. He's like he's like, you gotta come to Iceland. I was like are you inviting me in Iceland tight punched in the face by him. Can you? Do you have like a punch in the face fetish? Yeah. Yeah. Really? I had a friend like that one time. They was Patsy real Astle. All I ever wanted to do is get hit in the face. And why yes, no talion Pascall out. Always said, why are you always trying to fight people and he'd be like twenty points in the fucking face be out drinking, and he'd be like feel pain? I'm like, do you good? I was always a problem with the drinking friend that just got too aggressive deck. Those those. Fall victim to it. Evan, bro. Oh, really always tries to fight me doesn't always he did once and how it's me. I tried to start to fight. And then you've got to step in and finish it. Yeah. I had a friend like that too. This is life. I'm a happy drunk. I'll drink I saw you crawl on the floor on time GI, Joe sto drank too, much anyways. If I went in there one last question on my end, there's a upcoming film say last question, you just completely gone back on because I'm saying that because I could die like, I don't know how I'm still here. Game changers film. Yeah. What's what's up with that James Cameron's producing vegan documentary, and you're one of the guys in it this big deal. Oh sh-. Now. This is a big frigging deal, dude. Yeah. I'm I'm one of a few athletes in it. And it's just basically James Cameron's one of the executive producers another James Wilkes, former UFC ultimate fighter championship winner. Also Joseph pace. I mean, these guys off vegans, I'll vegan. Yeah. It's it's basically a documentary highlighting the health benefits from a performance perspective on the plant based diet and addressing a lot of the. Common misconceptions about a plant based diet regarding protein, b twelve inflammation cancer. I mean, a lot of different things. But what I really like about the film is that it promotes from very positive light. You know, there is no real fearmongering. It's it's very inspirational. And I think that when you approach anything from that angle a lot more people will listen when you talk about the benefits of something versus the negative. I agree. Why you shouldn't do it for why you should write about your? When your kids misbehaving. Sure, you could spank the shit out of him or you good could explain him. Why what he did was wrong and why not doing it will benefit his life? Like imagine. How much how much Sochacki cheese candy could have got if you didn't act up like a little bitch. That's the most effective way. Yeah. There's a study. I rose. Kids in a cage as the best is out there saying now like a kennel. Yeah. They've never seen him be wrong about a stat. So it seems like that from very legit science. Throw your parents out there are you saying like dig a hole and put them in the kennel, or did, you know, that's inhumane. Okay. Just regular kennels. Yeah. It's illegal fish drunk in Ohio SIL eagle eat, garlic. And then get on a bus within one hour in New York City. I'm not I'm not kidding dead series. Because your breath is overpowering enough to turn people at to vamp. I love your mind like this. This goes right in the fast lane. Who's going to Gela? Nah, I'm not going. I'll go for you shot that we're going to weekend to oh this'll be out on Monday. So question are you out of your weekend one in weekend one, and we can do that just came back going again? You're you have a major problem. Yeah. Consult a doctor ace talking to you. Mark donor. Check in. Why are you going for two weekends? You're gonna die. He's freshly single though. So that gives you a lot could you off the and he's looking great, and he looks he looks great. Who'd he almost looks vegan. Really good for you on last night. He was walking down the street. And it's underwear. What am? Yeah. You actually that's not a joke dead serious. He's hunting on and we talk about some current events. Yeah. Current events. Yeah. Go for it. With boxing at all a little bit. Yeah. It is much Terrell Miller and he failed his drug test. So he will not fight Anthony Joshua wa- alleged from the UK who is like plant-based when he trains, right? Is he yeah, I believe so I don't know. I don't know if you've follows it all the time. But I'm pretty sure I've read interviews where he says that when he trains he goes he opts for a million. I know Nate Diaz and it is world heavyweight champion boxer Anthony Joshua eats vegan before competing in. And the oh Anthony Joshua. Blows my mind that do this two hundred seventy thousand pounds. He's the mountain. Oh, my top of a mountain Oma. God. All right side, note that blows my mind, but I was gonna say. Dear I feel like I'm seeing a lot of this lately of people failing the drug test. What are you pulling up? I don't know some Google news about someone surprising first impression of Logan, Paul from pokey main. I hadn't even seen this big news from aids, I'm not kidding from Google from pope who is news four four you. Combine the base under interest. David knew how on interested. I am. I don't know why. Can I shake your hand? So I appreciate you for interrupting sorry. No. It seemed important Morita. I'm Marie to after shut up Hoke Amman. Okay. I got a tattoo got to catch them. All I thought he was kidding swirled that too. It's a poke on there we go. Girl, girl. Still miss. You should never go with me again because that had to what she's not she serious anyways, the boxer drone Hillary failed junk, and he can't fight Anthony Joshua. I feel like I'm seeing a lot of this recently of athletes failing their drug tests why they doing it. Why are they doing what drugs they doing to put in their system? Is it worth the risk because I'm going to be honest, bro. Roydon juiston juice. Is it is it peds? They're getting PD's that they're getting in trouble for is it like what are the specifics of that? Please. Taneja drugs. I was talking about mopeds. Yeah. You're you can you can you can drive. Yeah. Shit. Now. I'm just saying busted. You would have you ever done stare? No never have would you ever to be honest when I was younger and just starting like my bodybuilding career. I thought about it every body builder. That'd be completely. I if I didn't think about it. You know what I mean? But I knew whenever I started my journey. I did my first show ever as a vegan. And that was like kinda by chance because I had stumbled upon that video and decided to cut out dairy in the time I was vegetarian, but like I knew that like I just wanted to prove to myself in nounce it on Instagram and do all this things. I just did the show. And then afterwards, I I won the show. And I saw that there was something to like people really interested. So I thought why not share this message? And you know, there was a point in time where I was like, okay, I could like really expedite this process by probably taking this stuff. And I've had like professionals tell me that the only way you can make it in bodybuilding is if you take stereos, which you know, I I don't think that's true. You know at like, there's so many other things you can optimize before having to resort. Something like that. You know what I mean? Most people don't even give themselves a chance to see what they're truly capable of to reach that ceiling before they automatically will will take whatever under discernibly. There's some sort of test that takes place, bodybuilding competitions and some federations. Yes. And some federations it's as simple as a P test. And I think in other ones they do polygraph for my fight. They cut our hair. It was like, okay. Yes. It's because say grows out like you a lot of these guys a lot of these guys will find. Yeah. Yeah. And like cycle off a certain time before a show, and then get it out of their system. Yeah. So I mean, yeah, it's pretty prevalent in in bodybuilding for sure and like even in the league is compete in its non-tested. So like there's guys on stays that are competing with me that are clearly doing it, and it's like their personal choice. And I love those guys in there. Some of the hardest working people. I know. But for me, my message was always promoting health. You know what I mean? And I never really wanted to deviate from that, partly because like my own personal longevity. I really care about. But second I knew that like if I ever resorted to doing that. Then it would completely nullify anything that I had done. You know what I mean? Like, get the asterisk. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like people people still accuse there's videos about it their articles about Reddit threads. You know? What I mean? Like, I get it every day. And it's an argument that's not going to go away because people will see an image of somebody. And they're like they paint the picture for that person. They make a lot of assumptions when they don't know the the full story. You also didn't have to get bacne because bacne sucks, dude. He's tough, bro. Not it just it's I had acne, bro. I didn't have bacne. But act me, and I was speak for some who did have backing because I had acne. There's nothing you can do everything steroid induced or different ballgame. When you have steroid induced, I've seen some bacne that. Yeah, you see the guys in the gym than have the cysts in length orally bad bacne on their back. Dr. Dr barber and they also get the hime oh toes like the in their nipples like where. Gynecologist? I had that I had that you got stiff nips when I was going through puberty. There were these little balls in my nipples in my boy, Sean Turk would always give me titty twister as he was such a dick because he knew I was going to be any new my nipples percents. Always twisted you haven't removed or they went and went away. Went away. They went away. And I got pets. It was like it was weird upgrade there's a predecessor for PECS always wondered if you ever took ROY before I met you everyone does everyone does. Now, I was happy to hear. I think if you have any kind of like muscle, and like, you're you're in good shape. And you're like you've got a really good Bill to you. But like, it's just a communist option nowadays. I feel like the internet has set the bar so low that anybody that has any kind of mass masses like Royds, you know, what I made a stupid, but it is just so common nowadays. Because people don't really first of all a lot of the comments were made by people that don't work out or don't have any idea about what it takes to build muscle, or it's the same people that go to the gym every day and don't see any results in like, I didn't see any results. So that's how are common section full of wizards, bro. A my opinion they know everything shot common sexually love shot fucking lane of X of people's existence. Just what are you gonna say we go to audio only going to do that best idea? Or should we talk about that song, Tom, right? What about humane meals? You know, my bed. I wish you would've told me after sorry. She's beautiful. I'm interested in Sleipner DM's. I'm not gonna lie. We'll see. I always. Hey, listen. Watching this episode of impulsive, I'm going to ask them more current event related questions to need my on the audio only version you can catch it on Spotify. You might go. God. Thank you for joining us. Of course, man. Thank me. Of course. Where can they find you on social social just neem? I underscore Delgado on everything. Beautiful. We love you guys. We'll see you next time. Take it easy fan. Here. We are audio own. Different high so yo- current events this is due Davies he called Lil NAS Xs old town road wack take. I'm going to. To be honest. I haven't listened to it. But I know because Bianca came home, she takes dance classes, and she did a a dance routine to that song. You have listened to it. I've listened to clips online I'll made them listen to the song. But part of it not the whole thing. Yeah. It was catchy. It was super. It's a good for nothing. I hate these of songs, but let me tell you when you're in a car of twenty drunken idiots, leaving Coachella. And that song comes on. Road. More b I knew it. I'm from Mississippi. I grew up in new or the old town road one. Oh, yeah. I grew up. Town. I grew up not liking country. But I'd like that song. It's pretty revolutionary when I heard it. I was like I I didn't I don't know about it. But then I was like damn this is like big mixing hip hop with country. It's funny because Sean. They said the same kind of things about Chope inn's eight and Sombor when I was releasing sixteen hundreds and I think people have the same reaction. And now look at that's timeless masterpiece of music, and I think old town road is heading in the same direction. But I think Chopin's on solid open or Bach. Those people to be honest. I think we're going to the same place with this. I'm sure he's got many many more to come. Listen. Dickey's earth came out as well. Have you seen that yet? I haven't seen it. But again, yuckiest me young bianca's, the one that's more up to date. You'll bianca. Yeah. I would guess twenty two so vacuum vegan vacuum cleaner. Sounds like oh bless saw. All on one side. We're getting attacked by vacuum alien. A blending. She's making a smoothie tech will it blend. Throwback. Okay. So I think you're like little Dicky's earth. I hey, we should get a little bit on the show. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. We'll make that happen. Do think we could. What are your thoughts beyond thing? And it's cool. Like, I hear about as opinion. Well, I'm under. Well, it's cool, man. It's cool. I wish I could say it's great. I'm sorry. It's gone like Ambrosetti to right? It's got everyone in formula was so cool. The hook is incredibly catchy. When I first heard the hook. I knew I was going to sing we love the earth. They had that song. What was that song in the in the in the nineties with like, Michael Jackson and all them? It was really the world. Yeah. That one's really good, by the way, number one on. Now, it's seven six or millionaires. Here's my prediction killing. Here's my prediction. This will sit around eighty to a hundred mil which is still great for a music video. But then again has every single Ayla celebrity in it. I'm just saying I mean to use his platform for a mess. I love a gotta give it respect. That's why. It's funny though, because we actually put out a similarly important piece called flatter to the edge and back. Are you argue equal has a similar amount of views on believe at this point. It's funny because I didn't know did it make it on the trending list with you to know how many of us is one. Oh, it's gotta be up around the same amount as the video it's like four and a half. But actually, not at all there's no chance of catches up to it at all going to smoke on the less. It's so weird that it wouldn't even make the top twenty. I mean, does that seem right to you seems like it might beginning bearing now I'm YouTube, and I we got no. Beef, bro. I love them. That's funny. No, are you focusing on YouTube at all no, not at all. No spokes endless unites you watch any blogs. No. I don't have time to one. I don't do that, bro. I I never got to do it. But my last blog if I had ended logging properly was going to be like, yo I love you guys so much. Thank you for watching all of my content. But my number one piece of advice to you is don't watch people live their lives. V of log go out and live your own life. And it's really good for yourself. And again, I love it. They wash myself, but he was going to say that. But he's not saying that now Logan continue to watch content. If it comes out put up put down, whatever you're doing. You got basketball practice. Don't notifications on vacations on your dinner, whatever it is watched. The wlac starve yourself said don't every afternoon by the fuck emerge. Sue to be honest. I had I had I do have a YouTube. I've barely post on it. And it was like one of those things where I wanted to start it. And it's just like I like Instagram way better because it's just like picture caption go I feel like YouTube is like so lazy person need. I it's not fish, right. I'd rather direct my energy towards something else. Those muscles got that. Big from pressing publish. Bro. I don't know. Nope. What's the worst habit? People have at the gym texting. Oh, no how come every day someday? For those people. How come why texting? I took to the gym it distracts me between my workouts. And then I forget that I'm at the gym. Yeah. You wanna know what else? But then you're on a machine. Are you sitting on my fucking dumbbells that I've been waiting on for the past thirty minutes guys? Calm down. By the way, I'm the worst at it. I'll sit there and I'll forget for thirty minutes. I'll look up stuff to do ADHD is for oh, you know, what I would say to is singing lyrics out loud that always bugged me as ever happened to you as the guy in the gym. That's just like he's always blasting his own music. And he just starts singing, the Lear IX out loud like terribly. Okay. But sometimes it's not his fault example of old. Tom wrote comes on him singing that focus on. It's just the Jim sing along like a. Down road known. No, you know, why we can do that here because audio only on Spotify itunes, and they won't remove the content because if he's on YouTube they claim that shit for real my off. You're right. My biggest pet peeve is the grunter 's. And I don't mean, I don't mean normal runners. I don't mean like just a little extra power for that. Twentieth wrap when you're going for like a PR I mean like the fucking eighty throw that are like. That's solid expelling sloppy. There was a guy. Jim turtles made. There was a guy at my Jimmy other day. That was literally he was like singing gospel like, no. But like like he was like not possessed. But just what's it when the the spirits in you episodes? Yeah. But he was literally like praised Jesus law like inbetween his sets and later saying that everybody was really uncomfortable in the gym just kind of watching him. And I think my buddy got a video of an off to opposite way more weight though. No. Jesus. Jesus. Get you bottom. Did you Jesus? No. That was the first though. Do you ever? Get into ego battles with maple. No must is bigger than your mum. Now eagle battles like eagle versus your eagle like you. Fly in the sky and fight someone via eagle eagle fighting. It's becoming goatee stick. In the Czech Republic. I don't really. I don't really care too much about if if somebody's bigger than me, whatever I admire people that like, you know, they stand for something and they have good characteristics about them. You must have a giant dick, Brian. You do. No comment. That you. No. Arms. Also to watch. He's been on video for that one whole grown putt on the bang bus one time. Really do the cucumber in another life, bro. You're the Bangladesh. Master. Maybe I still am dude. You make podcast and make porn casts. What do you want from me? Yeah. You're right. It's a new wave as an idea. Bang bus Sadat. Yes. Already going into motion Riley talk about soon. I'll let you go. Oh. There's one thing. Our listeners can focus on to get healthy and get ripped. What would that be? Just start eating more plants. It's base. Pretty simple. Just starting more plans. That's actually true. I know behind that cutting out the junk, you know, it's really like people just by cleaning up their diet lose like ten pounds because they're normally having onto this like junk food cravings. You know what I mean? So you have the most control of what you eat whenever you go to the grocery store. So I would start there. Just make sure you don't buy junk. And don't keep it in your house, and you won't eat it. You heard it here. First, folks. Thank you for listening to the audio only extended QNA with neem, I dug out any my. 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Ep. 32: Nimai Delgado - Building Muscle Without Meat

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Ep. 32: Nimai Delgado - Building Muscle Without Meat

"Welcome to the plan strong podcast I'm your host. Rip Aselton. We took a little breather last week because we were still recovering and reeling from the overwhelming success of our first ever virtual plan stock weekend. Over four thousand. People Tuning in and committing to improving their health and the health of their families. We truly couldn't be more thrilled with how the weekend went and behalf of my entire family. Thank you and I think you'll all agree even though we couldn't be together in person this year our global community. Felt stronger and more connected than ever. Now. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it real men eat plants. If you recall I I said that when I was climbing the fire pole with just my with just my arms. With. My legs in A. L.. SHAPE. in. Forks over knives. And with the smashing success of the game changers documentary, we've proved that it is possible actually no make that optimal. To build muscle on a plant based Diet if you still have to see it to believe it, you'll WanNa feast your eyes and ears on today's guest. Is None other than me my delgado professional bodybuilder who get this? has never eaten meat his entire life? That's right. Knee my was raised vegetarian since. And in two thousand. Fifteen. While in peak training for bodybuilding competitions when all in and became a hundred percent plan strong. And guess what. He's been out muscling his competition ever since. What started as Neem is personal mission to stay fit and healthy has quickly morphed into a career and powerful myth busting fitness and nutrition platform. Of Spreading the benefits and possibilities of a plant based lifestyle. I hope you enjoy this conversation with a true game changer and hero. Knee my doug. With the end of summer drawing near. Its natural the head back into the kitchen. And to seek comfort foods that remind us of fall and the hopeful return to schedules and. Routines. We love hearing all the great feedback from folks who use our plan strong MIA planner to stay inspired. And satisfied while on the plan. Strong. Did. You know that you can search by ingredient to find recipes to help you use up what you have on hand And with the click of a mouse, you can scale any meal to make enough leftovers. So you can cook once and enjoy twice. We love providing solutions to make plans strong living easier joined the meal planner today. It's just a buck ninety a week when you sign up for a year visit planned strong dot com today and click on meal planner. Okay here we are season two of the plant strong podcast. I'm here with Nima Delgado, I pronounce that. Perfectly. and. The theme for Season Two is the heart of a hero. Obviously with you, you have more than the heart of the of a hero you have the APPs of a hero you have quads of a hero. But it's people that are really changing the game. And no no doubt about it. You are. You're changing the game you've taken a completely different path than the traditional path. the last eighteen months have been incredibly impressive for you. You're on the cover of muscle and fitness April two, thousand eighteen. You obviously one of the stars in the, game? Changers. You. Or, your social media influence over four hundred, thousand followers on your on your I. Pretty. Pretty impressive. Are you happy where you are right now? Yeah. Happy. But never satisfied like a true athlete right I think. I have big goals and ever since I started this, I didn't have those goals when I first started. This was kind of something I just ended up on this path and once I, was in it it felt right to me. So I ended up pursuing it but. Since I've seen what's Possible, to accomplish. Whenever I started I now, my goals are set really high so we'll. We'll talk about that. Yeah of course before we do Tell me how old are you just turned? Thirty thirty years old so I mean you're you're you're still a spring chicken. That's really exciting when I think about where I was when. When I was thirty, I wasn't even a firefighter yet I mean I was I was doing triathlons. It's exciting. And so. When people say you know what you do? Are you a professional bodybuilder? What's your description? That's a really good question sometimes, I don't even know what to say Because I although I am a professional bodybuilder, I've never competed in bodybuilding for income if that makes sense. So it's not something that you really pursue for money because there's not much money in the sport as more money like making businesses around what you do in maybe sponsorships and everything like that. So I wouldn't say I'm a professional body just like A. Hobby. Bodybuilder. Well. But. I mean. To me re the first Vegan to ever get on the cover of muscle and fitness. Yes to my to my knowledge and I asked them their knowledge as well at the first Vegan to ever be on the cover and how did that come to pass Funny Story I was actually competing two thousand eighteen for the Arnold Classic and even just to compete at the Arnold you have to get invited. So it was like a really big accomplishment for me to even get invited because that's like the top thirty guys in my category. So I got invited and I was training really hard up for that show because I wanted to make a big impact and just like every time I step on stage it's not just stepping onstage for me. It's like. Almost, like stepping onstage for the entire being and movement, everybody's looking to me to use me as an example. So that adds a little bit of added pressure for me but. I take that with you know what I mean. It motivates me a lot. So I was prepping for that show and Muslim fitness had reached out to me because we had done a shoot in the past and they reach out to do another shoot for them, but it was more for was more for like a workout and I was going to be the model and I had done that before and this time around. I just straight up ask the editor I was a hey, is there any way I can share my story of what I'm doing because I feel like your listeners might be really interested in it like I'm the only Vegan in my league competing the Arnold Blah Blah Blah and told him my story and they really loved it and when we went to do the photo shoot. They basically pulled me aside and hey, we're going to do a cover try and I was like what's that and he's like well, we're GONNA try to get you on the cover, but we're just gonNA take some some shots if we're doing a cover shoot and I was like okay cool. But I really try to keep my expectations really low I was like that's not going to happen never going to happen and yeah, a few months later maybe a month later two months later. A friend of mine actually sent me a text message of the cover with me on it and I'm like, what is this joke in me right now like photoshop this and send it to me. He's like I just got the email in my inbox and it's you on the cover and I was just like you do a backflip no, I just I was just sitting in disbelief and I remember looking at it I was like there's no way this just happened and because I knew Mike. What a personal accomplishment it was for me but like a victory for this movement and everything that I've been trying to do because, I knew that there hadn't been one before. So for me to be the first one kind of door for for other athletes because I'm sure there's going to be plenty in the future or you have been since but yeah, it was just like a really good moment that I'd like to just take in huge. Yeah. So You keep using the term Vegan how would you describe your lifestyle? Lifestyle. Vegan I wear the badge. You know I'm not afraid to say the word. Vegan I'm not afraid to be labeled as a Vegan because it is who I am and I really think that. There's been a misconception about around the word Vegan for a while now, and it kind of is getting better I feel. But I think it's about rebranding the word and. Changing the way feel whenever they hear the word Vegan instead of feeling like judged they should feel excited or feel inspired or feel empowered or however they feel I think we should just kind of shift that a little bit. So seeing people that are calling themselves Vegan and doing things that other people are inspired by I think it's a really good way of. Rebranding. So you. Think it's important to understand how you got to where you are today, we got to kind of explore where you came from because you you were raised in the deep south. Yeah. Right around by you. Yeah. Where where exactly in Mississippi's out south. Mississippi. So. South Mississippi. Which is not I think known as a hotbed for vegetarianism or vegans right? Not Quite now. But so obviously, you're just your parents must have been outliers. Much and raised you is vegetarian. Correct. and. I mean. So tell me about your family and how you grow up. Yeah. Definitely gotta go back. You know my my parents are from Argentina and the emigrated to the United States in nineteen, eighty eight or something right before I was born. So they had two kids my brother and sister, and my mom was pregnant with me and they came here with absolutely nothing basically under the. Pretenses of being religious workers. So they they are Hindu and that's they found their faith in followed their guru who told him about an opportunity in the United States. So they said there was a community in this in Mississippi that they would have free housing and they basically made their journey there and that's where I was raised in a farm like community in South Mississippi but purely. Hindu like people that believed in Hinduism, we had a temple, we a cow sanctuary like a rescue cow sanctuary. We had a garden was looking back was really beautiful place to grow up, but in a very challenging surrounding environment. So in that in that Hindu Community, was at the way everybody eight. So you didn't you didn't feel necessarily like you you were standing out from the crowd in. Southern Mississippi eating this way now I mean. I grew up there until I was about seven years old. So I didn't really have those too many of those thoughts and feeling different but. Once. I ventured out and went to public school. That's when I realized that. Well, I was raised really differently than than other kids my age and They let me know right away how different I was. You know kindergarten first grade second grade through even all the way up until high school people I was kind raised different and it was just apparent because of my name and also whenever I eight. So like you mentioned there aren't very many vegetarians in Mississippi that time and I felt like I was I knew I was the only one in my school. So every time I'd bring my lines, people would give me you know. Give me crap for a Vegan bringing arabuna vegetarian bringing my lunch and not eating burgers and they would always like you know hey, take take take a bite of this burger. Let me know if you like it and I was just like I'm good I'm good. So that must have. That must have shaped your kind of your resiliency and your ability to kind of do what you're doing today. I looking back definitely helped because even on a bigger scale, just being Vegan in like a regular community you feel kind of ostracized like outcasted like you are different than everybody else. So I kind of have been going through that my entire life, and ironically it was for very much of the same reasons. You know people not understanding my lifestyle choices not really understanding how I was eating and y always eating that way. So I would get asked these questions quite a bit growing up and for the philosophical or ethical stance of why our vegetarian it didn't really resonate with my peers. So I just kind of stopped saying it. and. I just went this route of being like, yeah. I'm allergic to meet or you know it's not healthy for like I always kind of had an excuse that didn't end up talking about. Ethics because people get very defensive. And that was my way of navigating those conversations for a long time. Yeah. So you're a vegetarian up to a certain age, and then you decided to go all in When did that happen and what kind of? Initiated that. That leap to the next level. So that was when I was twenty, four, twenty, five So about five years ago and I had moved to California after Aa graduated college and got my my degree accepted a job out here. And just got very much into health into going to the gym more and really like putting effort into going to the gym because I was bored outside of work there wasn't much else to do out where I lived in California. and. I decided maybe a day or two before I'd when Vegan but. I. Decided to do a bodybuilding show and just commit stepping onstage and getting out of my comfort zone that was something like a personal goal of mine. But two days later, I, was on facebook and my mom of people share this video about the dairy industry and what goes on behind the dairy industry, and that is what prompted me to go vegan because at the at the time I was working as a mechanical engineer and a gas plant and I. Dealt with dealing. Like all these different operating systems and processes constantly, and it was my job to. Refine them and make them more efficient and make sure they were safe and the risk was low and everything else. But. After I saw what was going on behind the dairy. It was very similar to what I was doing and I just thought in my head I was like you know there's probably another engineer that is doing my exact type of work but. To maximize their efficiency for these dairy farms and it's at the expense of these living creatures that are put in these horrendous conditions and they're just looked at as dollar bills and not living creatures. And it really made me sick. That was paying that guy's salary and I was supporting companies. So I just decided to give up dairy altogether. So cheese way protein cottage cheese mean yogurt all the stuff that was really relying on for my bodybuilding because those are all the high protein foods and I just decided I was like I'm GonNa find a way around it. So. Okay. Let's talk. Protein. So we know that eating plant based. You'RE GONNA get all the protein you need as long as you're consuming enough calories right it's a slam dunk no problem. But when you're trying to build muscle I would imagine the requirements a little bit different. So were you at all worried at first that you would have trouble? Building enough muscle eating a let's say a Vegan Vegan. Diet. Yeah definitely. Definitely I was. It was kind of like, okay. Well, this is my new set of conditions and I just have to see if it can work I. had no idea about any of the health benefits. I didn't research all the like the health benefits until much later. It was just kind of trial and error for me. So I cut out all the dairy, all the way protein everything else and then I was like, okay. Well, I can replace the way protein with a base protein shake and then if I stop eating all of this the, the like these Greek yogurt and stuff maybe I can replace them with more beans and lentils and whole foods, and maybe even some mock meats at that time there was a few brands that were still you know fully Vegan. a ravine even back then and I just kind of like made it work but I was still following this really high number of protein because this is the information that I was fed and when I was researching about like you know on bodybuilding dot com or these different fitness magazines even in the gym everybody was telling me the same thing they hey, you gotta get one to two grams of protein per pound of body weight. So at the time I was like one fifty. So I'm shooting for three hundred grams of protein, but on a vegan diet getting three hundred protein is it's you know it's pretty hard unless you're like. Eating all this. May Be, processed food or supplementing with protein shakes. So it was really a struggle for me sounds like maybe like I can just eat as much as I can, which is like a lot lower than three hundred grams and see if it can work and what I found is that it was actually really easy to get like. Between one hundred and fifty to two hundred grams of protein per day like it wasn't that hard for me and over time that number has slowly come down for me as well. So as I continue to train, I realized that I can do without so much protein now get like one hundred and fifty grams fifty. Yeah. Okay. So you're not having to do like. Two grams per per pound no. Not at all your Morales join eight point eight point five somewhere around there right? Right. Okay so are you able to do that eating all whole food plant based or do you have to supplement with any kind of shakes or stuff like that? I do I do Too Shakes. But is purely for my convenience, it's not necessarily because I need. Is My only way of getting protein I just like waking up and having a smoothie or having a smoothie after my workout. Those are the two times I I have protein shakes, but the rest of my food. So that's probably fifty grams from from supplements the of the other hundred grams or more all comes from whole foods so. You know you're talking about lentils, legumes, beans, tofu tempe you know occasionally a Veggie Burger or things like that. But nowadays, I'm pretty much predominant whole food plant base and oil as well. Right? Right you've gone oil. Yeah. I've been oil for a few years now right? I suppose that probably helps you really like lean and mean consistently yeah. Yeah. Of course I mean most guys struggle to get fats low whenever they do bodybuilding contests. But for me, it's sometimes have to add in fats to my diet because I'm not getting. Any right. I mean, do you do you? Log. Everything you're eating like chronometer or something like that. So you know exactly what you're getting only when I prepped for shows only one I prepped for bodybuilding shows are like really big photo shoot or something like that because I'm a numbers guy I go by data. So I'm very data driven I know it works for me if I do this macro ratio and these. Amount calories in my weight will drop by half a pound per week I'm five weeks out that'll put me right where I need to be for the photo shoot I just kinda reverse it, reverse it all out. So just like go a little deeper into that. So if you WANNA get to your ideal, let's say wait look feel and all that you start five weeks out. Depends it depends where you start right because he could have been a great winner and. You may have gone gone really hard on Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner in all his family functions. So maybe you gain a little bit more body fat than you normally start at. Yeah. So you'd have to look at it a little bit longer. So maybe I'll do eight weeks or something so was so give me an example so. How much do you weigh right now right now about maybe one, seventy, five, seventy, five to one, eighty, one, seventy, five to one eighty, and then what do you like to be at when you're doing a photo shoot or competing So there was a point. I'm I'm a lot smaller than what I was when I was competing because my training style and eating regimen has changed a lot. But whenever I was competing, I was stepping on stage at about my weight right now. So about one, seventy, five to one, eighty So I was almost ten pounds heavier on like just before prepping for a show but like on stage I was a good five or six pounds heavier than I am right now So about one, seventy, five, hundred, eighty. Well. Yeah. So it's not a matter of necessarily going down and wait. It's a matter of kind of. Going up a little bit well at that time before when I was. Like one, eighty, five, one, ninety, the walking around. But then when I prep down, I would lose about ten pounds okay and be ready for stage. So well yes. Oh, definitely you lose weight you know if you're prepping for a show that's two two months away and you're one hundred, eighty pounds by the time you step on stage you may be one, sixty, five, seventy, one, seventy, five so like. Ten pounds less right. So So if if I'm a traditional bodybuilder. what am I relying on to get to where I wanna be the you aren't even thinking about because you're doing the vegans. Yep. Protein number one most guys really up their protein whenever they put themselves in a calorie deficit start to train for shows. So. Most guys will go to grams per pound of body weight starting their prep. So that means it. You know I'm a light bodybuilder like compared to some of these other guys some of these other guys step on stage at two thirty. Or. Two hundred pounds. So that's that's a big difference when you're talking about pure muscle and those guys get like forty to fifty percent of their calories from meat as that means they gotta eat and eat and eat to get that much. So you're talking egg whites for breakfast maybe throw some whole eggs in there to than away protein shake after that. Then maybe eight ounces of chicken breasts. Then another eight of chicken breasts then another eight ounces of Sirloin and then another eight ounces of like salmon or something like that before they go to bed. So that's like four or five different animals right there. Again different animals yeah. They're not even not even the amount of protein but just different animals that are supporting this one being right. So as a Vegan, you don't have that type of. You don't need the same type of resources. So you can just go straight to where the animals get their calories and protein and amino acids and everything and get it directly from the plants. Cut Out the middleman cut out the suffering cut out the death and then. You know increase your recovery time increase your performance like increase your cardiovascular health. There's just too many reasons to count as to why. At least being open minded to the idea of a plant based Diet could be beneficial. Well, said I've noticed that you do a really nice job on social media especially with all the comments and all the people that are the naysayers and and all that. What do you say to people that that may be say there's no way that NEOM I can be that big and not be doing steroids or something like that. Yeah this is like Again. It's hard for people to grasp that there are people that. You work really hard and a really disciplined but then you know making that circle even smaller. There's even fewer examples of vegans better doing that. So obviously now people are aware because the game changers is came out and they're like their mind has been blown and they're seeing these guys that have been doing it for a while but you know previously there weren't many examples. So you see a guy that's muscular and you think, wow, that's impressive. But then to a normal person seeing a guy that's muscular and wait a minute, he's Vegan he doesn't eat all those foods I just listed there's no way he could do this like it must be steroids or something like that but. The reality is that like some media has greatly lowered the bar for what people consider to be possible what people consider to be impossible. So nowadays, there's people that edit their photos. There's there's just so much. Other stuff that's going on social media that makes you believe that everybody's on drugs because it just doesn't seem realistic. But I've been lifting for ten years. Or. Maybe more I always eat healthy I trained really hard in the gym I analyze every single thing that I do when it comes to how I lived how I'm spending my time in the gym. I mean I'm a numbers guy. So if people don't believe me I I stopped trying to convince them essentially like if they don't believe me, I take it as a really like it's a compliment. They think that something I'm doing is impossible but in reality what they're just saying it's impossible for them because they don't believe it's they could do it. Yeah. They already limited themselves to ever being able to accomplish that. So my responses like. You guys are capable of so much more than you give yourself credit. So you don't have to resort to those drugs. You don't have to resort doing things that are bad for your health in order to reach a certain level. So that's what's beautiful about like. Talking about being planned basis that like you don't have to sacrifice your health. In order to look good because most of these guys on stage, they look really good. But their health is really bad. Yeah. You lift up the hood and it's probably pretty dramatic you now you. Know. No there's more people that look like Ferraris on the outside but. You pick peek under the hood and it's a, it's a mess. How well do you know Meka from pretty well yeah. Did you meet them like during the game changers you knew him before that. So Funny Story I was actually scrolling through old photos and before I ever moved to like the L. A. Area, I used to come down to golds gym from Bakersfield just as like weekend treat for me just like spark my motivation and I just love going a Goals. Gym. 'cause it's like every bodybuilder's dream and in two thousand sixteen I went down there on a weekend trip and I hadn't got some workout videos and who do I see in the back Meka and who who else is with them the game changers crew and they were filming Michel, and I had no idea that that was me or who he was or what they were filming for and then About a year later after I filmed or maybe a year and a half later after I, filmed for the game changers and we go to this event is like the first time I him And he's just like a good buddy of mine now and he's like Yeah Great Guy I. Love Me to death. Yeah I. Mean that was to me In. A lot of people you may not have seen this. But at the One Day World Premiere on September Sixteenth, they had some bonus footage after the film. Yeah I did see that and it was twenty minutes and there was a lot of James Cameron in there and then they followed up with some some different. Kind of zeroing in on some different the athletes in the movie but they they did media and they showed him being tested for drugs and taking a lie detector test and and so there's different categories right I mean is there clean. Clean category and then. Anything goes like it's more. It's more like a tested federation versus a Non Tested Federation. So you compete in the tested federation you have to go through that protocol every single time you compete. To make sure that people aren't using drugs in the in the in the Federation that I compete in it's not the case and the the reasoning for that in my mind was when I first started off I was on, I was doing natural shows and I want and I did great. But I saw the response that people were telling me is like, yeah, you look great for natural guy but you could never compete against these guys organization and I was like I think I can like I really think I can and the very first show that I did in the non caused, you deal up your game it did well, the other thing is that there's a lot more. Pub- publicity in league that competed because Arnold was in it you know it's the Mr Olympia contest. There's a lot of good publicity around it and I was like man if I'm going to reach the most people, I should probably compete in the league that gets the most publicity. So I did my first show and I, I won the whole thing I won the overall and I was like, all right. Now, I can sue it. So this is let me just repeat. You won the whole thing and this is a league anything goes up even guys that are that are doing Roy Oh yeah. Okay. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So that was and. That's what that's like. One of the proudest moments that I've that I've had in bodybuilding was stepping onstage. Winning that overall knowing that there was eighty guys behind me that they could or not could not be doing exotic hormones and they're also eating meat I was the only Vegan. Probably. One of the few natural guys up there and I had one and. That proved everything that needed to be proved proven to me that it's possible. Yeah and after I won that I when I was like, oh now there's no question in my mind that I could get to the next level, which would be the professional level and Four shows later, I ended up getting my professional status. That's that's pretty exciting stuff right there. The single most important pet health decision we can make each day is what to feed our furry friends while science backs at a plant based Diet as better for the planet. and has significant health advantages. What you feed your pet. 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Do they know what you like what you're doing and they are Vegan. Yeah for sure they know. A lot of. Chatter, behind stages is pretty mutually respective like a lot just to you know to be a professional athlete and get to a certain point. There's a certain level of respect that everybody gives because no matter. What if you like the guy or not? You know he's a hard worker he's dedicated he's really driven so you can respect that. The difference is whenever you see somebody doing different. So most of the guys backstage, they really are curious. Of how I'm doing it or what I'm eating because. Again base they follow me online or they hear about me they us as being guy, what is he doing and they see the food that I'm eating up until my show and it's totally different than what they're eating and my my. Prep time is significantly less to some guys trained twelve to sixteen weeks out before show. Some guy shorter but normally, my prep time is six weeks, which is like really fast. And they're just curious. You know I. It's it's a good thing because. How many? Go ahead. No I was just gonNA say just opens their mind just opens her mind and most of the time these guys asked me questions and I answer like always and you know there's a shift there which is good and so do you know of any of these guys that have been curious and ask you questions that have actually come over to the? Side Yeah. Yeah definitely definitely a time really a time Oh. Yeah. Some guys that are big to six I can think of one guy particularly six, five, two thirty and he didn't think it was possible. He's a bodybuilder competitor and he went Vegan. So I mean. It's and what's crazy. What's even crazier? This is the part that I love is that I always lead health and performance and you know kind of leading the ego because the EGO speaks to everybody and everybody wants to look good. Yeah. Everybody wants to be sexy everybody wants to be confident they wanNA feel good and. Talking about this lifestyle from that angle really makes people's ears perk up. If you come out with another angle when you're like, Hey, what you're doing is terrible for the environment is terrible for animal welfare it's you killing yourself. I WanNa to hear this stuff like get away from me right But what's crazy is that that mindset shifts just from talking about it from a health perspective. So these guys that are going Vegan and try it for like three or four months. All of a sudden I see them posting on social media, some lake stuff about animal rights and And being ECO friendly and like there's a shift there and I'm like, wow, like he wasn't talking about those things or you didn't even care about those things when he first started. But now he can see that since he doesn't need those maybe it is kind of wrong or maybe there is some changes could be made. Yeah. Well, maybe it was me Sha that said it in the film but sometimes. Especially, I think men they need somebody to kind of them what's possible and to lead and and and and then they're able to kind of. Embrace something that they think is impossible right? I mean so I mean. Kudos to you me. Back and back in the day bill. Pearl. Borough of rice. Yeah? And even like Arnold Recognizes Bill Pearl is a good friend. You know he considered him one of the best bodybuilders in the world and even our new back then he was purely vegetarian. Yeah. Yeah. I think there was some stuff in the In the extra twenty minute footage. Arnold and Bill Pearl. Stuff like that. So. What some of the craziest Bro. Science stuff that you've heard in the gym that guys are doing these days. Yeah. Yeah. The the gym rhetoric is always It's always fun to listen to because normally I mean. There is a bit of like I, understand why this happens because normally there's a really big guy in the gym who how he got there how long he's been working out or what he did to get to that point but. Normally, it's just from personal experience and these younger guys walk up to the bigger guy and be like, Hey, what do you do like? How do you train? What do you eat and this guy will give his personal experience which may or may not be healthy and again I call it like Jim you know Bro Science or like Jim Rhetoric like the Bro Bible you know what? I mean like the Bro Gospel essentially like this just the same message keeps getting passed down generation after generation and guys tend to just take it as how it is. So proteins one of the biggest one. Even nowadays still. Trainers will tell their clients that you cannot be Vegan Bodybuilder, and there is no way that you can get enough protein in. There is definitely You will definitely develop some type of deficiencies. I know this because people send me messages of screen shots from their trainer. WanNa Watch a game changers and they're like, Hey, I talked to my trainer about it but he told me it's impossible and he's certified and. Yeah and I mean maybe certified in training not nutrition but. They believe him and that's where I get like a little bit upset because like people are talking about a subject that they don't necessarily know about. The depth. To speak on it and make that call. But here, there are many other people do know about an in depth and can clearly you know break it down how it is possible and show you that it's possible and that's where I get a little bit aggravated with. Bro Science will totally and I think that. So many of these These these guys in particular maybe women as well. It seems like they'd be willing to do anything that can get them big and strong, and you know if somebody said, hey wanNA drink two leaders of. Horse Piss like every day they probably be thinking about it. Yeah. Kind of ridiculous but on the on the same yeah, they think they won't look at their diet. Willing to do all this cut out me and dairy. That's that's extreme. Yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's kind of a little bit ass backwards you're a mechanical engineer. You. Hated it right you feel felt like a slow death. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It was a voluntary jail. I would go to the same sell every day you locked the door behind me and then think of why couldn't be outside living my life like it was miserable as sole suicide. So you're outlet. If I'm not mistaken, you're out lit was going to the gym now building right? It's where you felt free and like allow you to soar GAM in so it. At what point were you like? All right I'm I can't do this any longer and I am going to take this leap of faith. Yeah. That was it was tough. It's it's tough when you try to leave and they keep throwing money at you. I mean the like an almost ashamed to say it. Now by working in the oil and gas industry is one of the highest paying industries and that's one of the reasons why I went into it you know even though I consider myself environmentalists and cared about the planet and everything but growing up poor you you know and when money's always an issue like stability is something that's very like highly sought after in now. What I wanted I wanted something stable mean that would give me a good paycheck every month and you know utilize my engineering skills and that's why I went into it but I never went into it from the place of this is what I wanna do like I feel enjoyment and fulfillment from walking into work and doing these projects. I've never felt that once and that should have been a really clear sign for me but. You, know I had the. You know the blinders on because I I was getting paid very handsomely and that. Kept me there for a while because I kept thinking like, what can I, what else could I do like? What else could I possibly do and I never looked at the gym as being something that could be capitalized financially or even especially being a Vegan like nobody was really caring about what I had to say and I was like I I don't really know and then. as I got more into attending Veg fests and giving speeches and things like that. That's when I really noticed that people were listening and people were really valuing what I had to say and link walking up to me and telling me their personal stories about how I may have helped him or inspired their journey to go play base and they feel healthier. But yeah, one guy in particular. Really. Was the straw that pushed me that you know broke my back essentially like he made me look at myself and question what I was doing and whether or not I was spending my time purposefully or not, and he basically told me that I helped save his mom's life in very short story and it really touched me and I thought I went back home that day. Or and I thought like, what am I doing like I'm spending ten hours a day in a place that I really hate and then on the weekends I'm living my life to my fullest and getting so much fulfillment in meeting these people and showing and seeing the difference that I'm making like, why don't you just take a shot like what's going to happen like I, don't like my job anyway there's always going to be another shitty engineering position that will hire me if I don't if this doesn't pan out but why not take a shot at like really pursuing what makes me happy and really let let that drive my direction Bravo Bravo. Yeah Yeah it's amazing. How many people? Are Doing. Are Stuck in jobs that they can't stand right and they're not fulfilling their. You know their passion and their destiny. Yeah. They think they're stuck and that's where I was. I thought I was stuck because I didn't think that there was any way out but. You know I i. think if you let your heart lead you and you give your energy one hundred percent to what? Drives you in what brings you happiness. Then you're going to get really good at it. Right. Aw and if you're good at something, people pay you to do it. Whatever it is you can make it into some type of sustainable business and again, money isn't isn't the definition of success with in my version. It's like what brings you happiness and joy and. You're super happy and joyous all day and doing what you love and I would consider that a really big success not just financially. So you may be even okay with making less money which. You know had to make that choice like, can I be okay with making less money in black be this much happier and I was like it's worth it for me very wise. Man Just thirty one years old. That's impressive. What what kind of? So when you're in. These competitions. What kind of high is it is it is it like pretty pretty cool. It's it's. Nobody's ever asked me this question but. I think the high comes whenever. Mike. You reflect back. It's not necessarily when you're on stage like when you're onstage, you're still focused and like I'm still like thinking all my cues like, okay. backpost feed out flair my lattes rotate my shoulders back, squeeze my my ron void. You know like I'm thinking all those cues very much like focus I'm not really allowing myself to. BE PRESENT IN Like Bask in the glory you know what I mean. It'd be an stage it's more like execute, execute ex you. But then when I get offstage regardless of the placing I look back and I'm like, wow, I did it and then I'll. Think about like the journey it took to get there. So prepping every single day going to the gym every day you know working out with my friends. Seeing a slow progress of my hard work in like that's where like the high really comes like I feel accomplished and inspired because as soon as I'm done like, all right, listen to another one. Yeah. Do you get nervous at all before competitions Nah Nah I thought I would but I was never nervous it's it's fine. You can't really see anybody that's the other thing that people don't realize the lights are so blinding you can see like the first two or three rows of people but beyond that, you don't really see anybody. Tell me what you've had eat today today. Today's been a different day for me. I didn't eat. It's I fasted. Up until I worked out and then I came back home and had, which would you do for your workout? Would you work part? So I worked out twice today. So I had a session in in the morning with a friend and we did just biceps because we were filming for his Youtube Channel and just people always WanNa workout biceps with me and then. I went to the gym and did legs with my with my buddy. Okay and then I came back and the first thing I did was have a big moody so that boys consisted of almond milk. Banana, some frozen blueberries once cooper protein powder a little bit of mockup powder and a little bit of creating so. That was what I had for the first thing and then I ate little while before you got here and I had Some jasmine rice with. Some lentil doll dollars. Yeah that's IT Gotcha yeah. What do you consider your strongest body part? My brain. That's awesome. Yeah. Okay. How about outside of your head out of my head? Yeah. My to biceps for sure to buy. So yeah. All right and I call them my moneymakers. And you've name them. Yeah. Evening them is the right one grapefruit or. Loved. Ones Grapefruit. JP. There's like a split down the middle and IT KINDA resembles A. Like a chick visa. So that's awesome and what what would you say is your Most challenging body part the to work working on. cavs right Cavs for me I'm just don't have the genetic gifts that other people do when it comes the cavs and I've been working on him and people tell me Oh man people are vicious online. They're like, what about your calf I'm Mike Rowe listen I'm hitting them just not. Funny. cavs adducing to be extraordinarily kind of genetically either gifted or gifted. Yeah. Body part you never see calf transformation pictures. No because either have your don't like never see somebody like, oh, two years ago. This is my calves look right now they're like this and they're huge just doesn't happen I'll give you half my right calf. My calf I got a good right calf To. Soy not the soy to soy. Okay boy. Yeah and when you when you do so are you doing like whole soy like at a Mommy Tofu? I do all I do those three versions of soy right do so Just because I don't prefer I prefer pea protein powder but I do F-. Organic Soy Inorganic Tempe. and. Those are pretty much. I, mean occasionally when I do like mock meats like alternative meets most of the time they have some soy in there and I'll eat it there too. But apart from that. Yeah that's about it. Yeah. Me Me too I. I'm not. I'm not afraid of soy. Yeah. We know the go ahead. I've been eating my whole life as a vegetarian right I had like the it's called TV, which is like texture is vegetable protein eating that since I was a kid because my parents would buy in bulk from the Indian stores and they would come home and soak it and make these little granules and then they would flavor it and it was like. Yeah, it was awesome. I've been eating it my whole life and people are always yeah it's it's going to be hard to. Convince people to it's okay to eat soy. But. I think the game changers does a pretty good job of explaining how the fighter estrogens in. In Soy, actually can block those. Those estrogen receptors that we have and kind of regulate. The amount of estrogen. It's a good thing and it's funny because like you guys are so afraid of soil like especially the fitness guys and then they're still drinking cow's milk right or they're drinking beer and they don't realize all the FIDO estrogen that's in like beer and all these other things but. Gets the bad rap but united don't understand why I know the lactating dairy cow estrogen levels go up thirty fold not. Percent Thirty fold. It's it's it's crazy. Yeah. Let's like come on. Let's get a clue and you think about the hormones it takes to grow a baby cow versus the amount of hormones. It takes to grow a baby human. Yeah. There's a couple of hundred pound difference there of muscle mass. So. Obviously you know which one's going to have dietary hormone, right? You know. People are just quick to. Believe what they've been told. So. Do you do you have a a hero or somebody that you look up to? You know my my mom, and dad for sure hands down there. My superheroes, they're my rocks, their their whole reason. I'm here in the whole reason I am the way I am is because of them my oh, my life to them but there are two of the hardest working people I've ever met in my life and. Two of the most selfless people that I've ever met in my life and that's something I always try to remember to be a servant like give like be of service to people because not everybody has that. So the more you give it like. It's better than receiving. You know it's much better because. People need it people need that and especially when it comes to this type of information because it really can save your life and I feel like all all all everybody that promotes a plant based diet is a light worker in a sense because they are providing like a really good service to people. Their method it differs from person to person. But for me is just how can I help people live longer healthier and happier lives and I really believe that it's through. Looking at what we're eating and thinking about how we move and how we spend our day. You know not just in the gym, but outside of the gym and how getting rest and how you know how fulfilled are you? Are you feel? Do you feel like you're in alignment with your purpose or are you may be misaligned in doing something that you don't like because that has an effect on your health too. So just kind of this full holistic holistic approach to being healthy. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. speaking of being I think you said light light workers is that right? Yeah. What is your? Fall one of the translations to my name means inner light. The light from within yeah. Yeah Where your parents living today? They are still in the south they're still they bounced back and forth between Louisiana Mississippi. They have two properties and they're trying to go back to you know our roots where I where I grew up and go back to the farm and just spend the rest of their days there and Are they now Vegan as well? I can't say for sure because I'm not down there. But since the last time I visited they both told me that they were going to. Go. Fully Vegan my mom always been trying she's just needs assistance like sometimes she forgets that you know butter isn't Vegan. No mom you can't do that like no butter for me nobody for you either and the last time I was down there my my dad actually. Shared with news of me that he was on the verge of becoming type two diabetic because of his blood panels were just way off and I was like, what are you eating and turns out he was eating at the temple every day in the food of the temple love to have saturated fats from G, which is almost pure saturated fats. So I told him you know be careful how many fats are eating just shift your die and went dramatically down he does like a little test like every day after he eats and he sends me his his level. So it's Just like getting healthier yeah? they must be so incredibly proud of. Of what you're doing and where you've landed and all the light, the you're spreading. I E yeah. They tell me all the time you know. I don't. I don't I don't know if they know everything that I'm doing because. I. Just kind of like you know talk to them and like I don't try to overwhelming because I feel overwhelmed sometimes with like I'm doing this and this and this. But like things like the game changers have you seen the movie? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I, let them see it before it ever came out because James had sent me a copy. So I was like you've gotTA, watch it and we all sat down together and watched it but. They're really proud. Even my niece she sent me a video like re like my aunt recorded my knees watching me. For the first time in game changers and she was like Whoa that's uncle knee my and then she was like look how strong years and she's like telling my aunt she's like, did you know that he only eats plants and then she's also telling my an and that he's traveling the world telling people to eat plans to become healthier and I'm just like. It melted my heart because. I remember being a kid at that age and not really having somebody to. Look up to and be like, Hey, that guy's eating like me you're like. Look where he is you know like some type of. Role model you know. So it really makes me happy that my kids are seeing it too Well. Fantastic stuff Well, I'm going to wrap it up there. But I appreciate you let me come by your place course you're in marina right outside of La and Just want you to know how great it is. To have METCHA, since Sundance in two, thousand eighteen and how much how much joy it gives me. To know that we have you know young people like you that are spreading this message and reaching a lot of people that wouldn't otherwise be receptive to this message. So thank you knew my. For having the heart of a hero going against the grain and doing all this fantastic word. Thank you so much. The world engine to keep it plans draw always. Thanks Nima for everything you're doing to inspire people to live move and. Eat with purpose and compassion. You have the biceps of a bodybuilder and the huge heart of a hero. Most importantly. You are the bearer of truth in a sport that is full of misinformation. Keep spreading the light my plan strong brother. To learn more about name is fitness and nutrition coaching visit vegan fitness, dot com, or our show notes that plant strong. PODCAST DOT. com. Thank you for listening subscribing to our show I want you to know that we read each and every one of your reviews and we appreciate each and every one. If you. 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Understanding Veganism With Pro Bodybuilder Nimai Delgado

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Understanding Veganism With Pro Bodybuilder Nimai Delgado

"Midrand uh-huh and and thank you again for listening to the key bleeding podcast. Today's guest is a little bit different than previous so far and mostly because I really early on new idea anything about it and no knowledge of any does so the whole talk was a learning experience for me. He's a world-class bodybuilder. Nima I Delgado but what makes him interesting is he also is a Vegan and has actually never had beaten his entire life. We talk about that. How it's possible helping a bodybuilder is possible like that and also the idea of being a and how it's changed over US also see him documentary game changers on epaulets? Let's for those of you instantly hear the were Vegan. Inner turned off by even the word. This is an interesting. Listen we talk about that and that maybe the actual were beating is the problem. Not Actually that act of being so enjoyed as podcasts. Here we go this del. They helped you out done something extremely kind. Have you been recognized. 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That can just be your food. You don't have to tell me every time I don't care really for sure but I I am and I tried to do a bit of research before coming to see you a little bit about more about just Vegan miss and things like that and I'll be honest with you. I mean I'm not the smartest individual but intelligent enough. It was hard to tell what was real. And what was not on the white. When you Google it would be? It would be ten missing about being big and you're like are these ten missed that are true or ten months that are false and so I don't today I really liked to get a better pitcher what it is because I think most people think that it's not healthy uh-huh and I'm looking at you now and you look like captain. America had due to be honest like it has been getting a lot more attention lately. but I I think it's a great thing because it's showing that people are interested in people are more interested in becoming healthier for whatever reason there's there's a few reasons why people tend to go vegan But it's more like a lifestyle you know there's a difference between the Diet and lifestyle because for me it's always been a lifestyle my background's actually I was born and raised Minta -tarian. Yeah Yeah Yeah so both my parents I kind of grew up in this environment where You know I had very good understanding of why I was vegetarian. So you tell me you've never never never never never. It was weird like I know. It's probably you grow but obviously to me. That sounds and saying but on this night of the world does it seem thing. Do you ever wonder what that tastes like. Yeah I mean I've had those thoughts for sure you know but like again on this side of the world it's a bit strange but on the other side of the world. It's it's pretty common. It was like for me it was it was religious Kind of the ethical reason as to why we don't consume Animals you know and like I was raised in a very very unique environment in Mississippi where it was basically a farm community A Hindu farm community so both of my my parents they converted from Catholicism to Hinduism when there were there twenty somewhere around there and they renounced all their possessions. They join temple sample. That was going to be their mission. They're called called is probably the eighties and seventies and WanNa get it would have gotten classified as a cult. But it's just a it's a lifestyle you know. It's all based based on teachings from a vedic literature in Alabama Gita. And things like that and they have gurus and basically they followed their spiritual master Guru I'm from Argentina to they were told about an opportunity to live in a community in South Mississippi. And that is where I was raised. So every day Until what nationality of your parents are continuing their argument. Yeah they're they're fully. Rtd White Ball. My parents are born and raised fully fully Argentine J. Like this. You know Super Super Tina but I was kind of. I was raised in the south so like I had like a bit of identity the issue because I'm not really Argentinian. Not really I don't feel like I'm Hindu Indian or anything like that or have that like strong association with that like superstorm persona from that culture apart from the the lifestyle. But yeah one of the one of the philosophies of it was basically. You know we don't eat. Animal Products or animals is because we believe that every creature is a soul and the has a soul inside of it by causing harm and suffering than you and basically embody that in the future. So Karma right so so if you contribute to that it's going to be reflected one way or another at some point in time. It could be this lifetime. It could be the next so it's just choosing to refrain from causing living anymore suffering and being a little bit more compassionate and intern becoming a little bit more human to win growing up vegetarian than in the eighties. Right I nine hundred ninety nineties baby. Okay so in the nineties. Is that hard like when you go out to eat with friends and any parties or anything. Yeah for sure. Does I think that condoning consent. That was weird. Oh Hell Yeah Hell. Yeah so like. I don't know if you've been in Mississippi. Yeah okay yeah well I mean. It's doing that in California. I could see that Nineties these California teens. My nineties right. Yeah and so even then like war against final a two determines maybe yeah but Mississippi. That seems a lot appreciate pretty sure. The only the only vegetarian lamey tires fitted basically. It's what it felt like you know but In the bubble of living in the farm community it was really easy because they only serve vegetarian sharing food. All the other families are vegetarian but I ended up going to public school so I went kindergarten on up I was integrated into the southern culture and I figured out really early on that I was different. You know my name The close my parents originally put in school with my parents Kinda late. Very free spirited hippies. I guess you could say open minded people. They they brought me to school and kindergarten traditional Hindu garb. You know what I mean like. While a doting on my like also wearing necklaces and I can show you pictures. But that's how I showed up to school originally and it was like very like I stood out like a sore thumb. Yeah kids let me now. Kids are brutally honest. Yeah and it's one thing when you're a kid kid you mean anyways but If you saw also a from India Baggy Big O.. Kids might think it's weird but there are kind of an association. Yeah you'd like a white kid yeah exactly But I mean the the the authorization was still the same last raid so and especially to food because I would bring my own food to school and I opening my lunchbox in again my parents they send me to school with like Indian food. So it's like you open that up. It's like open up a box curry in in the classroom is it's my favorite food Indian food giant air. Mata all the spices and everything they use like the whole room would smell like completely different than anybody else's cuisine and they'd be like immediately immediately the kids would be like what is that like. What do you eat? Looks like machine sometimes like the dollar. The subject is kind of looks like a machine like what is that you know. It doesn't look like my groceries. Burnings Jelly or yeah. Ham Sandwich. Looks like yeah costly Kinda had learned early on the lake navigates conversations essentially and then extrapolate strapless nat my entire year little. Kid were you tiny small. I was small but I think that's just how I was later. I didn't grow 'til after high school. I was always the shortest kid in my class. And Yeah it was part of who I was picked on much on like not picked on like physically bullied or picked on no now he was more the light just comments and like it became a little bit of like a self conscious on my end to talk about that aspect of my life because getting questioned on it for Blake my entire life and then like having to dig a little people scratched the surface a little bit deeper cable. I don't you animals like try having that conversation I had with you with a you know seven eight year old kid the debut like yeah whatever I don't know talking about it now with an adult exactly exactly so for me. It was pretty easy to understand animals younger but Yeah it was more just about like learning how to avoid those conversations have birthday parties and whatnot like you mentioned. I would just like choose not to eat or just make think like cheese and Dorito sandwiches. You know what I mean. I would avoid the hamburgers and hot dogs in his parents asked me if hundred now I'm fine already eight you know just Kinda like avoided it because because I knew if I didn't want to be a topic of conversation 'cause like I've been dinner parties enough times. As soon as the conversation gets started. Everybody talks about it. You know they start asking me questions and judging I just wanted to fit in will I mean jumping Ford till now I mean now. It's such a huge thing rate. Does it do you feel like. I don't even know how how you'd say but do you feel like you like this is how how it should be for everybody. Do you think when you we think we. Now you're so you your whole life so I'm assuming it's it's into second nature you don't think about it but with it being so popular now as it made your life easier as far as that topic being able to eat. Yeah I would say the the options are lot easier. The conversations are still You you know I still get a lot of resistance a lot of judgment alone like understanding that everybody has different views on certain things I had to learn not really early on some like. I'm pretty open about it. You know what I mean like if somebody disagrees doesn't see the same the same way I do. I never confrontational and I think that's like again dealing with that. Since since I was so young kind of primed me for what was doing now he now because I understand that you know nobody likes to be judged or feel like. They're doing something wrong just by living their life the way they've been living in you know what I mean so it makes me pretty compassionate to have the conversation in a very open. Honest non judgmental way And it has kind of been why. I've been a little bit more effective than other people at communicating. This message this lifestyle. I mean it'd probably not very many people from that have been vegetarian their whole life. I really I I know a few. Yeah I don't know. Ironically I know a few but thinking about killing few yeah and you are veggie would be writing stuff about the people who posited doing that more exactly. Exactly what the real question because this is unsure what everyone is asking. Why is it and that every person who turns Vegan is compelled all to let you know every me on everything they do is Vegan? Like it's as if they were encrusted or something and that's yes to me. I don't care because I'm whatever. I have a lot of friends who are Vegan and I get why they do it. I do think it's weird. You have to tell everybody and I'd ask my friend once. Why why and she? She said I'm going to keep tyrod until everybody is that way and I get that but I do feel like there's a part of that that pushes people away from it definitely just like being anything being shoved on the White Guy. I think is a attribute of people who begin to adopt this lifestyle. I I think there's probably comes from places I would say the first is probably. They're excited to share this information formation that they discovered you know it's like if you live your whole life with like kind of like a veil over your eyes and the veil gets lifted and you see other people that are kind of like in that position that you were a while back you want. They want to share that information with you and let you know I may not only be the best approach because I I've seen it a million times online and in person and all this stuff often it's just like people are just excited to share this information because it could be a few different reasons right. There's there could be feeling very strongly about animal welfare and they. You don't believe that any animals should die for human consumption or convenience or whatever you WANNA call it could be you know trash the planet all the kind of ecological l. reasons associated with animal agriculture. or it could just be for health reasons that people could feel really good. If you'll healthy. They feel happy confident and they want other people to feel that way so off again it. It's the way you convey the massive style because if if me we're having lunch when you order the steak in front of me I wouldn't bat an eye you know what I mean like. It's your life if you wanted to talk about it with me. Ask Me questions about my cuisine in my food and what I'm eating out totally be open to it but there's a thing that never once have I called my cuisine Eh. It's cuisine point. It's like genre young right. It's like now Vegan. Food is like its own bench genre. Do feel like They would they. That's crazy it feels they. They've you things like they've it's US versus not handles they. Because you're always is constantly being pushed basically shut down your throat about it. I think if I went into a restaurant and didn't tell me which ones revealing or not it would i. I feel like I would have not now but even before a much more open to it now. I would've. I would've ordered other things because I think earlier on years ago you'd see Vegan. This clue. There's nothing nothing in there that I would want. Yeah no taste no anything. Yeah and I feel like if they if you take that word out I might have ordered that. Yeah just because it sounded good I think it to me that such a strange idea. Vienna's a loaded word. It's a loaded word and a lot of people are afraid to even label like themselves as begin because of the association with because let's face it. I mean it's been around for a long time. But the REP that vegans tend to have is like this idea of people picketing outside of slaughterhouses deserved protests in the street or yelling people throwing paint on for coats and Mike. You know what I mean like barely on your face. Angry people and people are afraid to associated with that. But it's like in my opinion it's more about embracing the word in kind of leading by example showing people that it's not everybody. There's extremists in any movement in any group of of people that are passionate about living way. It doesn't mean that everybody's like that but nowadays it's like people are afraid to use the word that exactly like the moment. They see the the word like I don't WanNA touch it. I don't want to be part of the menu. Yeah this isn't for me for them or whoever wants that crap but make color Vegan secretly know that now people are using the word like plant based. Because it's more like friendly. Does if we read many a weird that that does the truth a couple a month and a half ago. I went tried to go Vegan for a week and I ended up going ten days and a ah I really just recently went to cut all meet out and and then I cus only drink dairy other than cheese and I had one day right. Choose somebody I'd forgotten and I don't sing. I mean other than I ate the same place every day because I I was easy. Yeah I felt like the choice to do. It was based on Until tries to do it was based on how easy was order right like him availability if it was maybe maybe that's because I wasn't. I wasn't super knowledgeable. About what places in my community. Serve that kind of food But I I knew a couple of places in one place. There's a couple of things as I really liked and it didn't I don't like I don't know if I didn't feel any better or worse but I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything which I to me. It was is more important because I do like. I do like the the effects of the climate in animals that tab not being vegan writing. I do that. It's important to me so so for me. It was serve as a little test. Like could I do this. And it was solely based on how easy it was to get down convenient inconvenience and and I think if I was taught how to cook that food or what it was. I don't think the choice would be hard. Yeah yeah well again I think people labeled someone and is like Vegan and they automatically have this idea what it is like carrots and lettuce like the idea that most people would rather food right but the reality is like. There's a lot the things that are Vegan or unintentionally Vegan and just not call that he made like pasta ordinary sauce like Vegan. You know what I mean. Certain types of cases of eggs. But you know it's very he's not like the same dishes at your normally familiar with and just make them in a way that contains no animal products or byproducts so understanding that is like kind of the biggest hurdle title for people because they feel like they have to eliminate so much of their diet and they kind of eliminate like a piece of themselves. Because it's like how many times you eat predicting like five six times. Yeah at least at least six times per day if you're like an active athlete stuff so if you basically eliminated that your favorite foods if you're eating I'm like you know like what would you normally eat. Today are lakes from NOCCO Tacos Burritos all that stuff if you feel like you can't eat those foods because they have cheese and in Carne Asada whatever in it then you're like what the Hell A. Yeah but the reality is the first thing what am I gonna eat then. Yeah people have ideas like. I'M GONNA have to eat salads. All dates like Brian Meat Salads. I come offer like close to five down almost five years. Now it's like. I rarely eat salads burritos tacos eight pizza's sandwiches smoothies all all his stuff like normal people eat but just the version of it and it's just like making those small replacement because normally only one or two ingredients of any dish is not even what helped me with the mindset. Is Ice Cream okay. Sounds dumb but I someone deter me onto a like a non dairy yet the Kawkab. This tastes right and somebody had it like glue. Couldn't tell the difference. Yeah and so I get these tuft ice cream and I think the idea that I the thing that was going to be the most delicious to me still tasted delicious. Every could to And that I I eat meat still but I could easily easily sixty percent less than I did two years ago easily early year ago. Yeah and that's a lot like like huge as a huge amount and I could see going vegetarian. I hope I could do without cheese because I really liked cheese. Yeah but I can see going vegetarian. -Tarian and I don't like Vegan cheese and my friends told me to be confused delicious and unlike an I in my head I'm like I don't think it's delicious. I think you've just decided you're Vegan. This is all you have during the best you can and I think you learn to like it. Yeah but I am fallen it ship. I'll be the first one thing. I don't like the brands though that I would say are better competitive with with real cheese. And there's a reason behind that why people like cheese so much while it. It's addictive so basically basically milk or mammal milk is normally Comprise of two different types of proteins. You have way protein. You have casing protein so casing have These these these compounds called case of morphines which basically attach themselves to the same part of the brain that Other drugs attach themselves to the addiction. Part of the brain right so the theory behind this is because you know a cow for example. They have the CAF. The CAF wanders away. They have to give it a reason to come back back to the mother. So these case morphines are much stronger much more available in cow's milk because it's meant to bring baby cows a couple of hundred pounds back to the mothers will keep feeding at the others so keeps you coming back so there isn't addictive property. It happens the same thing humans though we get addicted to cheese because it's like the hardest thing we can give up but once you eliminated eliminated. Then you kind of like for yourself. That addiction is that makes sense. Yeah so you can't replace it with like Nandi Vs It may not taste as good for some time but once you kind of get over that hurdle it will taste better in. It'll be a little bit different. That make sense. Yeah are there any I mean is that a is that a thing that happens a lot of the same thing I would. I don't I don't think meet has like addictive properties. I think it's just like you said lifestyle the way you're raised the cuisine that you normally eat a daily basis convenience. All those things have like a strong influence on your daily routine like what you normally do so changing like you're flipping living down head endurance on totally different. It's a big undertaking. And that's why like I'm always a fan of doing the approach like the reductionist kind of approach where reduce a -tarian just slowly reduce the -tarian But you slowly eliminate one product at a time you know life. It's like find the alternative for your favorite. You know if you eat tacos every day you have ground beef in them. They have like a few different alternative options options for that. Now that tastes similar may not be the exact same but you won't really notice a huge difference and if like if you were presented with the choice. This one's a Vegan plant based on this one non Vegan Vegan. You know that this one comes with certain health side effects environmental side effects on welfare side effects and this one comes with none of that. It's still may not be the healthiest thing than you. But it's a step you know I. I did see somebody talking that the tomatoes to grow that much plants all the rodents that had to be tilled was off. aww You're just killing the same at apple's now but there's there's that is true there's always going to be some kind of Footprint that we as humans make on this world right but the reality is the efficiency behind raising a couple thousand pound cow compared to raising a human the amount of grain and the amount of plants takes to raise the two is gross. I mean it's grossly inefficient like it takes up to like six or up to sixteen times more grain and and resources to feed one cal in the amount of calories it produces so just let that sink in as opposed to a human you know human ways of fraction of as much as a cow and it can survive off those grains in those vegetables and everything else so really all that death and all the destruction in the insects and rats in the road. Is Everything like that. It's primarily being fed to cattle. So Oh there's a lot of embedded resources it takes to raise these cattle. These pigs fish everything you know what I mean so by cutting out the middleman those crops and everything everything else could be reallocated or repurpose for something else. That doesn't cause as much you know deforestation. It doesn't cause much environmental damage. And you could repurpose it. You analyst like I think a hamburger caught it like takes almost like two thousand gallons of credit for what happened for one hamburger two thousand gallons of water about that when you extrapolate out look at the funnel of where that goes. It's like that's because it takes a lot of water to raise grain or to raise soy crops to raise all these other things spray the field. That's water. Then they got they got a cultivated they got a branch of the catalina feed the cows and they got to feed the cows a lot of water a couple of thousand pounds so it all kind of trickles was into this like this one hamburger. You know what I'm saying. So if you can just skip the cows part and just go straight to the source. You'd save a lot of resources. Do you think that the you'd probably isn't working. As one workman is there is there a number family begins in America. Do you not as there's figures for him. I don't know how accurate those things are is. It is it is slowing down the beef industry or the tissue. It sure. Yeah I mean that's the beautiful thing about is okay so this isn't working yet. One hundred percent one hundred percent. I saw some figures of the day that said that the the milk and egg industry and taking billion the losses in the past couple of years because of these alternative plant foods and it's they're being essentially threatened now because now they're even putting the Gatien to make it illegal goal to call plant based milks milk. So it's going to be illegal to even say soya. Milk is milk because they identify milk is being derived from an animal. You know what I'm saying. Is that to get people to not buy it essentially eh but I mean you call Burger what it is I mean what is a burger. Berge word for you know something for count as chop it up and shaped into this patty and then they call it a burger. I mean it's no different. People think that just grow on trees. Freeze is not the case. You know so calling something else wise. It's not it's not gonNa make a huge impact but it just shows that there were its its effect. The alternatives are in such demand that it's affecting the traditional beef cattle milk and egg industry. That makes you think ever possible to get that number down down get get. It's an appeal becoming Vegan. that it wouldn't be worth the money to do it worth the money. How for them to to have a farm arm and to have Alba's cost for either to be not selling them? At what point do you know what point is it is the cost of raising account. Count all that stuff not worth with yourself. It's not worth. But they're selling for a while. But it's subsidized that means subsidized by government handouts essentially. It's not what it costs a lot of money to raise cows and all these steps but they get breaks they get tax breaks from the calendar. Because it's so ingrained into politics. A lot of these politicians are vested did supported and backed by the dairy industry. The beef industry coalitions have a lot of money. And they get the brakes from it. But if those subsidies some subsidization whenever you call them weren't in existence and they kinda reallocated those for let's say plant based crops or plant based alternatives. Yes or whatever that would be a totally different story about how much it costs to have hamburger. You know what I mean. So you think we're going to get to his place just population wise it. Does I have no choice but to do that. To be a huge amount of plant based just because it will require less to do it. Yeah realistically I don't I don't know if it'll ever be one hundred percent. I don't think the whole world of the one hundred percent be in or anything the more developed countries but I meant enough people where where the public can no longer. We can't make them be. Vincent can't support that much so we'll have to have these other alternatives became cheaper. And it's just more cost effective like in my head. I pictured like thirty years now we would only beat Mike. We insect cockroach burgers because it would be so much easier to how. How was that many insects in one building? You be able to do it a lot cheaper and techno would never be able to tell the difference. Do you think that we could be headed that way with more plant based just based on population aid. The trend is going that way for sure I mean they say is one of the fastest growing industries or sectors of any other. You know I think beyond meat just IPO and strong Ip launch in the last twenty years of any company. I don't like the Spurs. It's weird to each their own. You know what I mean I I wish I did but I don't taste but then again I don't eat. I bet you is a not as good. Because it's it's just hitting the real thing but not the real thing thing or it's not that I don't care I don't care if it just doesn't taste what I hope. A Burger tastes like okay and my another bridge. Like what you've never had this. I JUST WANNA say not cooking it right and we've had enough of them to know that like you know I like it right. I'm I'm old enough. Thanks thanks guys. I know what I like to eat but I wish I did. And I'm hoping that something comes out that tastes a little bit closer to what I hope. A Burger tastes like but then again I probably have cut my burger intake down seventy five percent in the last year. which makes me feel better but when I do buy two birds the most delicious thing I've ever had but I I know that I do feel that shit afterwards? Yeah Yeah I mean healthwise. Earning in general. Yeah I mean even the beyond me stuff is not the healthiest by any means. Now it's more of a Transitional Food for people that want to make a replacement like a like for like switch. That's non animal based you know and I see great value in that because that like like you said opens at the door for convenience I can go to Carl's junior and get burger and when I was growing up you couldn't do that. Testing is cooked on the grill though probably probably but again that the only people care about that or the vegans and chances are most of those games aren't really shopping at Carl's junior anyway. You know. They're already supporting the Vegan restaurants and shopping at Red Cresent. MM stores and buying the stuff themselves so it's like it's more about. It's not talking to the Vegan. Crap do you now that you can't make them more Vegan. It's about kind of opening the door in the conversation for people that Ah may have never been interested in it and are now willing to try because the food is familiar. It doesn't have that kind of hippie Super Healthy Stephanie Virus Gateway Taber exactly exactly so other companies are catching onto it. Because now I mean in the last probably year or two probably been so many more companies that are jumping on that train even Tyson. They were investing in plant based meat. KFC COMING OUT LAWS CRAP. You know what I mean it's like KFC. I know I know rolling over in his grave right now but it's like at. That's a huge step for to get major fast food chains in America on board with that because global coming. I love fried chicken but I rarely eat it it because it just seemed everything about is so terrible. Yeah there's not one good thing about fried chicken that could possibly good for you for every- everything's everything's Monday. Yeah anything for my health for the infant for animals. Jagan if you're at a way to make fried chicken all head to really worry about the Frie- bits. Yeah you know I that you would need it a lot more. They've got one actually just had like fried chicken in a bucket by. KFC for Dame's from a food truck. On I can't remember the name of it but I'll see if I can find out. What is it it was Satan so Satan so they say this is the NFL Tannock as if we are not enough the the third part I don't know who the word whereas derived from I agree? It's terrible terrible word Satan. It's fried so maybe maybe more but yeah at Saint just essentially vital wheat gluten. It's just like the the weak protein that's extracted from the week greater What is it called the one of the week plant But it super high in protein It probably get the most realistic texture to the real thing you can like it's fibers. You can rip it apart. is kind of like the whole experience like chicken. I guess at a different color. Maybe we'll darker I would say we just make it crazy colors you biting in your chairman just of purpose of why not playing. Yeah I don't know if it will do that well if you did that terrible. It'd be great pictures. It's great for kids. Yeah exactly remember that I thought about this the other day that had green and purple catch up back in the day in the ninety. S hines hines came out with like purple catch up I'm sure it didn't last very long holiday thing as colleen and I wanNA I wanna get to two things and then move on to some of your your body. There are some bis about the to miss that I think are important with with being with the one is at because you're Vegan Vegan. You're eating healthy. And that's a huge huge man. That's a huge myth. How how does that? What is that right like? How was it that I could cut all this Stuff out still beating terribly. Yeah I think I posted this thing in the day. It says like being vegan means being classified or stereotype as being extremely healthy not or extremely unhealthy at the same time so people tend to think that a Vegan Diet lax. I mean what. What's something that's unhealthy? You're getting too much of something without enough of something great. So the most common misconception is that Vegan diets don't provide enough nutrition to live to be alive let alone be an athlete or anything like that just to provide enough nutrition to repair yourself. Recover have energy levels in all those things and there's only like maybe one thing that is not abundant in in diet and that's B twelve and b twelve is basically something that originated in in soil soil. A lot of people think that B twelve comes from meat and you can consume animal products and get traces of B twelve. And that'll be enough for your body to operate properly in providing of of cognitive function. And everything else but be made by bacteria and originally it came from soil. So the problem is when we're early. Humans used to scavenge forest and get dirty soil vegetables. We consume it or we drink water from streams in it nowadays the soil in wire or so sterile. All our hygienic. I guess whatever depleted so where the bacteria don't exist so even in the annal agriculture those animals aren't grazing zoom in open fields and getting dirty vegetables and getting B twelve there actually being supplemented so majority of the B. Twelve supplementation is pro is made for cattle. So they inject the cattle or put in their feed so that they get b twelve and then it was b twelve Dugan. It's it's a lot plays a few different roles in your body but a lot of it has to do with cognitive function. So if you don't have cognitive function you can have brain fog. You can get loud. What's the word like lightheaded? You just can't think very very like functionally so it's a very very important supplement. But you don't need much of it so even just taking one supplement like a pill like like once a week should be enough for you to be completely fine and to ever be twelve shots. Yeah what are more are is a supplement pill More effective than a shows definitely more effective Yeah there's always absorb issues with with pills especially if multivitamins people multi-vitamins or like some kind got a panacea in his garbage of studies on multivitamins. Show that they're not affected at all. He just you're just basically wasting money in buying expensive urine. Wow Yeah so if you were. If you WANNA take supplements I would suggest taking the isolated form you know like like a like a powder of ham you like a dedicated b twelve pill or dedicated dedicated iron pill or dedicated Omega three pill as opposed to doing like a multivitamin has like each one inside of it. If that makes more sense I mean the best. The Best S. approach is always to get it from food because your body will absorb it much much more effectively when it's combined in its natural state. You know there's nothing like how as Ligon Or to implant there's nothing can give you twelve You can get twelve through nutritional yeast which is like you see a lot of people a lot of beacons use it as like a like a spy is like a condiment you can make cheesy sauce with it as probably one of the most abundant sources of B twelve. But the reality is you should probably supplement everybody should supplement. Not just everybody. They did a study in that. I think like forty percent of population is low on B twelve deficient but they're getting sub optimal levels so it's not a Vegan thing it's like a general population think and for the reasons that I mentioned earlier because we live in a sterile environment nowadays. Another thing that I'd like to clear up with begin. Begin is that you can't be strong but you're not getting a protein. Everything's GonNa be stronger need protein and look at you and like I said you look like Captain America like you like to do the kid captain America's ass so I mean when you see a picture when I when I first officers like dude as ripped and not even like ripped like like. Oh this look you look. You look like a cartoon character role the perfect that the ultimate male draw you Okay humbled but seriously so when you tell me that people with your that. You've been a Vegan Vegetarian. Your whole life. Does it shocked them. You can get in the shape that you're in. Yeah for sure. And how. How's it happen like what in? What is it that people are missing that? They can't understand how the sounds examples out examples because because people have never seen it before you know it it's like you were talking about it. So is such an unheard of thing to even see like vegetarian is thriving you know an athlete fleet or anything like that. But now you don't want to have further and you hear the word Vegan and again an I an image pops up in your head probably guy with dreads loose tie-dyed shirts and stuff like that and it's just not the conception that's been built like the Paradigm Bigham so when people find out I'm Vegan. They they're kind of like like in disbelief. And that's one of the reasons why chose bodybuilding is an avenue for for talking about. The stuff is because I grew up being told my entire life that I needed me to survive and I need to meet to. He's stronger athlete and even younger. I mean I played soccer house. I'd competitive weight. Mortar semi pro skater. All all these things that were like I knew. Oh that lettuce and I knew I was just fine but I was being told my whole life that I needed meat. I needed animal products in whenever I went fully Vegan already into fitness. And I knew that I could do it and I just wanted to prove to myself. And that's why I stumbled on bodybuilding in light did a competitive bodybuilding show. And after I won I'd like kind of like printed it to myself and I was like you know what if I can do it. Anybody can do it. They just need to know how when you say you did a bodybuilding show. What was that so basically where you no you prep for a competitor a competitive guessing? TV show no no no no stage Arnold there you hit poses which which another question I mean. This one has just body tricky bodybuilding question. And I hope you don't take offense to me. Why does everyone who body builds? Why are they all orange? What is going on? Yeah this this this is probably the this is one of the aches eight hundred ninety one of the worst whatever orange sprayed why are they all orange so basically when you can on stage. You're in front of these like stage lighting And if you're white there's no contrast so so you WanNa look as dries possible like these you skins paper than you see every stride Asian everything else if you're white you get washed out by the lights okay. But if you're dark then it shows up a lot more you see. All the shadows you see all the crevices they pop a lot more so the dark you are the more the better you look on stage. So the WHYS gorringe. It's just daykitchen. They tried to get you as dark as possible man. I I figured out the Tim yet. Some look good. I don't know so but I looked like a totally different race. Whenever I'm on stage I look in the mirror might women even what am I doing? The my like what. Are you doing enough. But I mean it's just for the sport and you Kinda get to. I never respirators before. I did bodybuilding the moment. I saw myself in the mirror with light. They do. They do two coats. They do a A cult night before the base coat timer and then the next day they do a competition tenants super super dark and then that washes off at the base code always stays on base. Goes Day off for a week his smellier the girls get Girls you spray Tan. You may look you think you look great you stink. A stink is thinking. It's it's one of the most unattractive smell. Yeah you're and I and God forbid that you don't let them sleep on your show us on the run they sweat it. Just you'll buy. Yeah somebody just jumped in the muddy water. Your latest growth tends me. He's like gross thing. I never been a fan of it but if you look better on stage in fair enough I get that it had my question was a making fun of it. It's it's always always Agent Orange Nuance. It's all your thing and I'm like the people I know Wannabe town stage I didn't realize it was too and it makes sense. I should've said No. Just pop fans is prevented weird to me. That orange is the color. Yeah the joke is intentionally origin. The people people that are like more fair skinned and looking orange. Because it's just not how long's it take you to go from. You started bodybuilding to where you're like. Oh I'm competition ready and now I WANNA world tight overall. Yeah overall title overall title so long as your first question I i. So I started lifting mouse basically sixteen recreational lifting. I go to gym do a few curls into a few bench presses and I did that pretty much all the way through college in my last year of college. I made friends with some Some personal trainers and they really taught me kind of like the mechanics behind weightlifting during proper form programming workouts to see results a lot faster after that I kind of fell in love with it and then I moved to California and then Bakersfield is a really unique culture. I mean it's like blue collar workers and the body builders and to really unique makes people in the by going I guess seen in Baker's pretty big so I go to the gym and they had these massive dues tattered up everywhere Orange as all hell not anymore. They weren't competing. You couldn't see if they work there but it was motivating for me. I was like I get shape too. You know so like push myself and then somebody else suggested they gotta show him bakers local show. You should you should see you can compete in the ashort. I'll try it so that was kind of like what happened happened when you compete because for someone who knows nothing just go pay me flex. But I don't know what they're gonNA like. What are the how did they? How did you guys? Yeah like that by that. That guy was tanner's this guy looks like you've probably seen it to be honest. It's such a subjective sport. You know what I mean like you have the same guys is lineup. And then the same judges in the next day. They'll have a different places like I will get third. Secondly it's really subjective. But mainly they look for like cemetry balance fullness dryness I mean dryness yes so basically how paper thin your skin is so you basically want to have as little body fat as possible civil okay. And that's why guys trained for like you know sometimes sixteen weeks for one bodyguard show. It's it's conflict 'cause he trained for sixteen weeks for sixteen seconds on stage to do your routine and then you're not even looked at sometimes. They're like your mom used onstage. Look at the judges in their spare X.. Thirty now the guys and I've always been a little bit aggravated surveyed by judges 'cause like some of them are former bodybuilder. Some of them have never competed. I don't really know what gives his bodybuilding judge credentials of judging people So you gotta yeah have thick skin because amphion skin thick and thin skin at the same time. Great Craig well but you kind of like put your heart and soul into something any. You've sacrificed a lot. I mean you diet like hardcore for sixteen weeks to get onstage and just to be told that you're not worthy of like even being called or looked at against free like heart wrenching announced for some guys it's like girls it's heartbreaking and other guys motivated. I gotTa do better and better. So you gotTa Kinda had understanding before you get into bodybuilding because has it can be pretty brutal you know. The people in bodybuilding can be pretty brutal as well. Can you make a living doing that. I wouldn't get into bodybuilding to make a living now now I never got I got into it because I was just it was a hobby are the to make livings smart ones you making money. You can do a lot now. I mean before before before social media it was probably really hard to make a living bodybuilding. Because you'd have to live off sponsorships you'd have to win contests even if you win bodybuilding contest. You only get like three thousand dollars and you the first place you get like three thousand dollars. It doesn't even cover the plane ticket. The Food I the hotel room to get there I understand as he has no biker in the nineties I know yeah exactly so go to contest I remember. I went to like eight of strove in event all the way to Oklahoma all our bikes cleaner bike rack. All the bikes and people in the van and we slept under the rams at the park and first place was four hundred dollars sow which none of us know assess with all the negative. But it's like you understand though because because you have this deep passion and desire for this sport whatever it is even if it's killing you as making you're broke you know you're you're miserable. But that one little outs of like happiness that it gives you it's worth chasing and Ns kinda similar to bodybuilding. Because you do put yourself through a lot you kiss your social life goodbye and good luck if you were dating in like sorry. I can't bring you to dinner because I'm not gonNA eat sorry I can't hang out but I gotta I gotTa Sleep Neil prevalent and stuff so it's definitely not for everybody. I I always say you gotta be really extreme like an extreme personality to be a body builder and again like I competed in division. Where it's not? It's called men's physique. So it's like Kinda like the the lowest and I guess size wise the smallest of the different categories so it's it's a little bit more attainable compared to the heavyweight bodybuilders at our two hundred sixty pounds on stage bone-dry bone-dry just look like gorillas. You know what I mean so for me. It's a little bit easier to have a life balance between being professional in that sport and also like leaving my life Pavley and enjoying different aspects of my life. You know so I I like it. But if you're trying to get into bodybuilding for money I wouldn't do it but nowadays in social media it's a lot easier to make money because you can build up in the following and if you have credentials of being professional bodybuilder people are GonNa look to you like you're talking about for health reasons right. Yeah how does that's the difference though like you talked about earlier. Just because you're six back shred it doesn't mean you're healthy. Yeah how unhealthy is are. They can't be very unhealthy to there. Is I mean you can see. There is turning yellow. Their skin is crawling with acne. You know what I mean. It's like this is why it's it's kind of like a double edged sword when it comes to bodybuilding because so many guys do have that passion where they're willing to do whatever it takes to get this plastic trophy or to get his title where to get this little bit of cash cash prize that they're willing to destroy their body because that's what they're willing to do you know they're that passionate about it but that's what's cool about like the approach approach is that you can achieve those same goals but you don't have to destroy your body with light. I get asked all the time for the exterior royds. You know. That's that's the number two question I get asked right after. Were you get your protein. Do I take steroids right. Because they see somebody like myself who has a little bit of muscle mass. And they're like yeah. There's no way that this guy could build muscle without meat and and the difference is like I just have to understand what you need to eat if you can provide your body with the same on nutrients and macronutrients micronutrients to build muscle. Then there's no reason why you can't can't you know it's just choosing a different source for it because it all gets broken down in the same you know most basic components amino acids right but to help people understand. That is another story so people automatically assume that you do steroids or anybody in bodybuilding steroids. But don't run a lot of Surrey abuse in the bodybuilding industry but it doesn't mean it's the only approach you know normally comes down to mindset if you want to take that approach and if that's something that you are willing to take the risks on or deal with the consequences of that stuff then by all Means do what you WANNA do. It's a personal choice. But doesn't mean that everybody's taken that route so you can have that option of doing many working a little bit longer a little bit harder being a little bit more regimented and the best part is that you don't feel the same health side effects you can actually look good and feel good and promote longevity as oppose was to decreasing on jeopardy. 'cause I mean there's a lot of light abuse that you're putting on your body especially when you start taking exemptions hormones a lot of the guys arnold rate obviously sourcing he he's had like his heart upbringing on a ton of times and that's I'm assuming I I I was told once and I I. I don't know if you I don't know at all that he had everything up Reno's heart many times because heart strong. It just couldn't pump anymore because it's is too strong muscle. I don't know if that's true but I'm doing that's caused by steroids. Hgh and things like that that used over the years it could be it could be. It could be a combination combination of that. Plus the dietary choices most of their cardiovascular health issues in America caused by lifestyle so choosing foods at a very high in saturated fat that caused so you know artery plaque buildup in your arteries affect your parts ability to pump blood effectively to the extremities organs and that's what causes heart failure right so so a lot of that is really lifestyle related so with the plant based diet or a Vegan Diet. Whatever you WANNA call it All the studies show that it's it's it's health promoting and you you can reverse those those cardiovascular diseases with eggplants but and even army of an article out of the number of harder to breathe I love even arnold endorses like a plant based Diet on. If you know he just announced his game changers but yeah so. It's a film by two guys James James Wilkes and enjoyed pace. They're the two creators of the film and Basically James is a former UFC Ultimate fighter winner. I think season nine or something like that space especially his discovery of how the plant based Diet affected his recovery and performance. After he went plant-based he recovered from certain injuries and he was just curious as to why not other. Very many athletes are adopting his diet. So it's it's a really powering like powerful story of highlighting different world. Champions Olympic Athletes Olympic Olympic powerlifters have been to the like the only representative for USA. The last two Olympics was Vegan His name's Kendrick Farris. And they have cyclists. They have strong men have bodybuilders. So I'm actually one of the bodybuilders at speech from filling in it right. Yeah Yeah So. It's it's a real honor to be part of that film film just because of the other athletes associated with it but I think an arnold in it too and it's it's just changing the way we look at fruit for performance. Because I feel like it's a bigger issue. It's not just looking at me and having doubts about being plant based I feel like it's more centered around the identity behind what we eat this masculinity I wouldn't say toxic masculinity but this is a masculine identity surrounded with eating meat and being powerful unlike. You need to eat meat raw. Meat makes you a man and hunting makes you a man. I think it's kind of reversing an stepping back from that and showcasing these like really bad ask dudes I mean they got snipers James James. Probably the deadliest Dune on earth. He trains like Green Berets. He Trains Navy Seals and he's Vegan so like seeing something like that apple change. Somebody's mind because they'll kick your ass. Mainly is dude you know. I think we need more examples like that. And that's really going to change the perception of like the young people to do to the even the females. You know what I mean. I do think that we're Vegan is is a crutch for that industry. Think about it when I if you told me that guy's Vegan amid wow. Wow but if you sit plant-based thought anything about him is he's healthy but the way I look at it is you can't the the word is not going anywhere is it's not going. It's not but it could if needed but one of my friends on instagram. When they hashtag something put plant based Vegan? I would say I would trigger a different emotion in my head. I just think it needs a rebrand rebrand. I just think plant-based is the rebound to an extent. Yeah plant based on my talks about the Diet. Plant base is strictly really in relation to the food that you eat. VN transcends the Diet and it's more lifestyles basically trying to reduce as much animal suffering our footprint. That you you can do. It doesn't mean that you'RE GONNA be purchased is so weird because when I when I think that that doesn't even come into mind you just think diet. Yes either one. I think the Diet and then whichever one. I know that the Diet affects affects all those things it does definitely like. I wonder if might make things a wonder if that only means that the people who are Vegan. Because you've thought that your whole life but people were just experienced it from the outside that I did when I. I don't think anything other than food. I don't think about leather or animal byproducts audio doesn't really it's not as much and so I just feel like Maybe that's it maybe that maybe that'll be what what changes people a little bit of a rebrand because it definitely doesn't seem I hate to say doesn't positive because I think that's wrong but it definitely. I think people who are tired of hearing about got it here it negatively whether it is negative or not. Yeah I and again I think I think it boils down to the emotion that somebody feels when they hear the word. That's what I'm saying so with something like the game. Changer is such a powerful film. And it showcases veganism in a completely different light than ever before is not like you know I love. I love the documentaries. About veganism and showcasing like you know the hornsby lifting a veil behind animal agriculture dairy industry. And all that stuff. But it's it's really it. It makes people close up when you see something get killed in front of you and you let your helpless like like. I don't WanNa Watch this. And you WANNA know it exists. You know what I mean by is also mandated. I was assaulted. Pigs is being that had some sort of disease pig like bird flu. Whatever was and they really pushed out of a truck down a cliff alive into this pit to be burned as terrible? Any everybody can can empathize but again. It's that emotion that you feel that is associated with that word so if you remove that emotion and make it a positive emotion so if you think begin in your think while world class athletes like elite strongmen motivating inspiring then you have a totally different perspective on the word Vegan. So it's like a rebrand in a sense you now now I don't I I don't. It's weird because I have A. I live in the middle somewhere when I really think about. Can I go vegan again when I was here like okay if I say to myself can I go be instantly unlike. I bet do that but when I think about those week that I did a month ago. It didn't feel any different than I do now. Adults so easy so I guess for me. The idea of going plant based Vegan is all on convenience. Yep and I also do think that like the idea that like Vegan the leather and everything the only thing I buy leather shoots in my tennis shoes and I think that I would buy those. If if they were just more. Maybe there are are more available. I just needs to be not. I don't think I think that you could. I don't think people are buying that shoe because leather the buying it because it looks good. I feel like it's like the electric car. Electric cars remember but for some reason they've made them look like Shit jetson status cars. Ever Tesla. Why would you just make it look normal and an idea like that is a ploy to not get by? Yeah it very well could have been and I. It doesn't make sense to me but I just made just decide you're not making other making out of new Buck Walker. Some sort of synthetic. Then you wouldn't be doing think about it. Yeah expe- I think the best way to get something somebody to do. Something is is. I don't even have to think about it. It's just an IT. Seems it seems seamless. There's isn't there's just not an option for the other thing yeah. I don't think there's people that are going around. Maybe they're either I have to have leather leather-shoe yeah like there's a bit of a status behind having like like leather or Vitton or something like that you know what I mean. I don't live in that world so doesn't count. Yeah I don't I trust me. I don either lasting by Nike tonks. And they're made out of Suede or something. I don't think like I'm getting those because it made us look cool. Yeah I'm a ghetto. Yeah but see now. Now the industries are changing so now for reasons like that. Now it's it's about What is it a supply and demand right? The whole country in the world operates on supply and demand so if the demand is there the supply will come in now. Same thing with the food. The demand is there so now all these companies are getting on board and then it's going to become the new standard you know you'd better have a plant-based option along with your me based option if not you're losing out on money or profit so the same tablets not going to be shopping. They're they're going to go to the store that does you know so now. It's the same thing with clothing and makeup and all of these things reason why Kylie Jenner came brand new vegan makeup line because demand is air and now that opens a door for everybody. Not just the veganism is like a huge trend. So you're just missing out on all those potential clients. It's because it's not cruelty free makeup at what point is it. IS IT NO LONGER A. Is that a painting. I'm getting all stop is a painting of you offering Alfred around you. Referendum looking like the fittest humans. And the this is I wish you could see his. In fact I made for. Elderly gift fills a gift from a fan. That's that's a gift to me. A thorough what point do you think or do you think there'll be a point win that we're Vegan is disappeared because it's just light or no. It's just normal. Is the goal of his life. That would be awesome. That'd be awesome but I don't know if it's ever going to have it in my lifetime. Maybe the next generation slightly as their next generation that's there it has to be an inflection point. Now with what we're doing and I think that's kind of why. Maybe the movement maybe the the new millennials in the new generation or kind of a little bit more aware. You're because it's been talked about since they were super young as opposed to more like a you know the previous generation our parents just like all the warming. Fuck is that like nobody cares about going to be here for the next twenty years. So what do I care. But now it's like this is their world like they have to live in it and it's basically caused by the damage that we do. So it's like unless we make some kind of light direction. Like vector change you know to either prolong the damage that we've done or maybe to stop topic reverse it. I'm over. We can but we have to start taking steps now and the only way to do that is to have money behind it. You know you can't just stand outside of a building with assigned signed and think that it's going to change the world you know you have to have policy change. You have to have government officials on board you have to have the infrastructure for that to be sustainable same thing with these farmers that losing money on their industry you know those have to have like an alternative like other people like Doug. I Love Animal Welfare. I'm all about it but like a dam appeal appeal person too and I I care for everybody you know. I don't want those people to be out of business and Mike homeless stuff but there there should be some kind of light alternative option for them to step into you. Know it's not just about shut him down down you know it's about like shutdown provide them with an option yeah medium saying totally because people who work in like meat and dairy very or the coal industry. I don't think we should. They could be their only option to have been born into originally. Yeah but like all things some things just you learn there are insufficient anymore or not needed. There's plenty of industries that happens to and then we just evolved in something better and I think that although it's unfortunate for those families and for things need to move into but that is such is life yeah right like I. We can't continue to do things that are terrible because you can't lose the job ride like yeah and sometimes I'll take one generation difference. I don't know if you know What's his name? I think Ocean Robbins use the guy that was like the air to the Baskin asking. Robbins like dairy ice cream the whole formation and like he's Megan and like he just completely discrepancy. I'm not doing this and it's like well that's just not he's he's completely not part of that family. Says it has business yet. He like rebranded doing all kinds of different things. And it's like that's just one generation different I'm surprised he didn't instead of doing that. Why he didn't go all takeover every ice cream? We have there that. Maybe that's the plan. I don't know I don't know if Baskin Robbins and has the options yet or not but I assume that they probably will be given the fact that like. What's what are the brands that Ben and Jerry's has like the ice cream all these new? The vegan ice cream brands are coming out and destroying numbers. Good I mean there are some some that are like this could slightly better but it's a spectrum just like anything yes I want to eat them more on Michael. This is now my this rocky road tastes land and this is what whatever. Yeah that's what it is and I think you sort of like you said you've accepted. This is your option but soon as I made that and also where I shop I mean even just going to sprouts most of the options of economics a lot of them now so I have less. I find myself less looking at the what the Vegan option and more with the flavor is. Yeah 'cause it doesn't matter but that's that's the beautiful part about link. Expansion is that it brings competition right so like the brands that were like dominating that market and have been around for forever. The only option vegans like. It's is an option. You know what I mean now. It's like these other brands are coming out and they're destroying those flavors and they're making a fucking taste amazing and they're like screw the other brand. Let's let support this one and then another brand comes they just Competing until it like they perfected. You know what I mean but you can only do that if you have the research. Statistics financial backing to actually perfect. Something like that. So that's why it's it's a beautiful thing that there's all these options now because it's only gonNa make things better to the point where people are like as Burger tastes identical to the real. Thanks what do I care if it comes from cal for comes from a plant right. Yeah long as it doesn't cost me ten more examples. It's going to go through their head on exact. Exactly where can I feel such such a vast amount of knowledge in could never get to it. All where where can people leave a podcast with is. What are the kinds of things that people listen to that they can learn about on the on the on the generation? V Generation be podcast. So I I hosted quite a few different guests and Originally when I first started the podcast I just wanted another outlet where I could talk about things much greater doubts and in the beginning it was more associated with light health and I talked to a lot of doctors and basically ask ask the same questions that I get asked and they're able to answer them from a medical point of view that they go much deeper into the science that I ever could. You know my background's engineering earn is not medical at all but I like talking with them because they break things down to where I can understand if I can understand it then the listener can definitely understand it but I. I've got all all kinds of topics related to mental health gut issues Performance I talked to former Olympic Mr Olympia. Dorian Yates yes I mean. I've got a pretty wide variety of different guests. But the whole point of the podcast is just to broaden people's perspective on topics you know whether that's it's health whether that's compassion whether it's fitness you know because I feel like I'm I'm so much more than just a bodybuilder and that is something that I built my platform around around but it's not something that I want to be forever known as you know. I want to expand into many different things. I'm really interested in business being new entrepreneur and like leaving the corporate world in starting this whole journey by myself my eye opening so I mean I host a lot of different people and topics and mainly people that I find interesting and inspiring is. It's kind of a main ethos of the podcast and if someone who really maybe was interested in this plant based or Vegan in order GONNA call it Trying to make it as easy as possible. There are a lot of like meal preps or things like that That people can look into Germany as suggestions. Yeah as far as meal. Prep like delivery services. There's a few I've never tried them just because I like to cook for myself but I would suggest like like maybe going online and looking up different recipe databases that you can find for free and just trying them out this zig trying to cook you know your favorite meal but with a Vegan option leg instead of doing you know Fried Chicken Fried Tofu or something like that. You don't even have to go the healthiest row. But as far as meal prepping goes the majority of questions I get asked answer in regards to building muscle and I got asked so many times I even started a separate food page so I could just show people. How much protein has been how much carbs vats and fiber and all these things? And it's just called Vegan bodybuilding food. You can find our instagram facebook. I share tons of recipes there I also do online coaching through through my company called Vegan fitness dot Com and we have transformational coaching where we've seen incredible resulting in eight weeks. People are able to achieve achieve much more than they ever thought they could just buy kind of following a structured program and combining it with a structured diet and plan and all the foods that we recommend on on the programs are predominantly hopefully plant based meaning that its little processed food. So if you don't WANNA eat beyond burgers and all process crap you don't have to. It's all based around beans legumes. Lentils fruit veggies potatoes. Like all really helps us. That are available everywhere. It makes it really easy because people feel like veganism is so so expensive. They think that they had the restaurant. WHO's fifteen dollars meal? Yeah it's expensive. You know but you can make the same meal your house for less than two dollars you know. Beans and rice is is the cheapest thinking get you know that's kind of a staple in my diet. Same lentils Tofu and all that stuff you can buy really deeply so it's just about learning to combine those foods and then the following program. You'll see results really quickly. I always tell people I don't you don't have to go the just try it. Just try it you know. Let the results speak for themselves. That I'm I'm an eight ten days and I felt good. I I didn't feel I don't know if I did it long enough to really get get a feel but I know that I didn't feel like that was lacking at all I would say normally around week three and week four. You can probably the biggest difference because you have allowed your body to detoxify digestion in has kind of like made clear itself out. You know 'cause you're eating a lot more fiber at this point and then you'll start to notice the difference in your sleep the difference in your daily energy levels goals because the reality is like meat is very inflammatory and disease cancer. All that stuff can only live if there is inflammation so if you can reduce inflammatory markers then you'll naturally feel a lot better so for example if somebody wakes up in the morning and standard American Diet Radio but have like the eggs in in the morning first thing right if you're bodybuilder. That's probably what you're going to have your egg whites right and then by mid morning your washing down with away protein shake and then for lunch or Heaven Chicken Chicken and rice and then the same thing for lunch number two and then for dinner. Maybe you had like Sirloin or fish or something like that. So like each one of those animal sources they elevate your state state of inflammation to the word to the point where you're in a chronic state of information because you're constantly feeding it inflammatory foods so if you actually eliminate those foods introduced anti inflammatory foods which the fruit vegetables things contain antioxidants would basically reduce the amount of information your body. You'll naturally feel a lot lay course later lot clearer and not only that you allow allow your body to spend the energy instead of fighting inflammation it. Allow it to recover faster. It allow it to sleep better allow for your hormones to produce more in being a better environment for your internal organs to operate in your digestion. You know digestion is like the biggest key to living healthily and we know hello this much about digestion but just scratched the surface on the gut microbiome and how food affects the type of bacteria that we host in our from our mouth to our so. If you can optimize that then you can absorb nutrients better. He can recover quicker. You can be a happier mood. Because seventy nine percent of our serotonin levels are generated from our gut so Serotonin Light kind of balances are mood and makes us in like a jolly disposition or not. So if you're lacking serotonin you could be in a depressive state. So there's like there's so many levels as to what you could experience on a Vegan Diet and again I'm not doing this for any kind of propaganda like I get not. Everybody feels comfortable talking about animal welfare fair or ethics or things like that but from a purely health perspective. I think it's worth shot you know. I think it's worth a try. If people are willing to do Kito into all this other crap in like why not. Just try this other this other guy. It's been marketed poorly. It has a take anything anything I mean. People people by the dumbest Shit they do. And you're a whatever it is whether it's food or closer ideas or whatever he'll buy into the dumbest shit because it's market well and I think veganism like I said like even at word just just been poorly marketed early market and it's it's it's crazy that It all comes down to just what people think of it what it can really do for exactly exactly exactly marketing and science or to totally unrelated fields. That's why like the supplement industry would be blowed garbage. You'll ever come across because they make all these claims that have new. Look at the science behind those supplements. And it's like it's purely garbage. You know they're just making claims just claims or it's all relative so we're actually doesn't infective. They sell it for seven dollars a bottle and people like Phil Placebo and they think it works when it's not doing shit so you just about like merging. Those two in combining the science was good marketing. And then you can have like a really powerful kind of boot you know while I was go get lunch at big Nice Burger. But they're gonNA pass but thank you. Thank you so much for having me over today because it is this this podcast in particular is gonNA is so different than the rest of them that I've I'm doing but I I do believe that it's a super important topic and I believe that is it is something that is really something that is healthy for everybody whether I can buy into it or not and I think the point of be buying into it is has nothing to do with anything about what it actually is dull my mind. Yeah yeah of whether or not I believe this so thanks thanks for dropping the knowledge that we were able to get to which was a lot In this last hour or so and and If anybody wants to follow you get your tips. They can find instagram. Yes first name last name is me my underscore Delgada. That's what a map all platforms. uh-huh Youtube Instagram facebook twitter And then if you want more advice for food you can follow my instagram food. Page being body going food and then if you want are interested in coaching and learning more about Kennedy evidence behind performance from a plant based diet or Vegan Diet then you can go to be convinced dot com and if you WANNA listen to talk a lot more generation V podcast. Thank you so much. Thank you for having me Eh around eighteen uh.

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 Reopening Mississippi: America's poorest state begins lifting lockdown

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Reopening Mississippi: America's poorest state begins lifting lockdown

"Today AS DONALD TRUMP ENCOURAGES AMERICANS to go back to work our senior producer mightily row his God in. Us reporter Oliver Lock Land. What it looks like from the State of Mississippi which is meeting faster than most to reopen The white sand beaches of Baloch Mississippi draw millions of visitors each year. This is bill oxy. On American riverdale regimen law mingle with the world of today's endless amazing peninsula city tourist comfort the pristine coastline but stay for the casinos. The bars and the restaurants sharpen grits special. Great its beauty. Green has Gouda Cheese and it also and then they fantail shrimp way saute almond butter garlic and hot sauce. Being Wilkerson price works as a line cook and a trendy restaurant on rain street. That's all I know. I mean I've worked for over thirty five years. So that's all I've known I've done all different types of cooking also catering I've done you know country club up down fast food so I came to block and had my sister here and plus I had a good idea of the restaurants and the food industry. That was here. Mark was going well until the krona virus outbreak was declared a pandemic in March at first Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves resisted closing down businesses asking residents to trust in the power of prayer. Instead Your heavenly father. Please be with President Trump vice-president pence leadership team in Washington as they try to deal with this once in a lifetime and but in early April Governor Reeves finally ordered all casinos gyms salons shopping centers and restaurants to close put people likely suddenly out of work scrambling to feed his. Three sons. Totally took me out of work. I mean radio week week but us from week away to nothing but now just weeks later. The governor is reopening some businesses including restaurants putting people likely back to work even as Mississippi's death toll climbs from the Guardian. I'm mightily row today. In focus in the American south states like Mississippi are starting to reopen their economies. But how many lives will it cost Oliver Laughlin Bureau chief for The Guardian us? He's normally based in New Orleans Louisiana but earlier this week. He headed east into Mississippi at South West on Duffy Street. Then turn right on our side avenue. The joy from newly-installed. Luxy is not particularly long. It's only ninety miles long and you're driving along pre sparsely populated often empty rural high roads. The set by lush forest. That has kind of blamed in recent months. Empty Retail Parks. Big Strip malls. This huge lake. That you try lake pontchartrain. So you can see this huge false and like shimmering brave water and I really being one of the I need 'cause on the right pretty extraordinary. Why are you interested in reporting from Mississippi? So Mississippi is the poor state in America is also the hungriest stay in America. So there are issues with access to food with obesity and underlying health conditions aware in the top five in terms hypertension in terms of obesity. We're in the top five of many states in other areas. We're number six across the nation in the number of smokers per capita in Mississippi who say one of the states that was one of the slowest. Close up the Republican governor that Tate Reeves he issued a very liberal directive. Or what one would class as an essential business and this is a time when the neighboring state of Louisiana was really going through a severe crisis with corona virus and became one of the major hotspots Cross Louisiana. The numbers are simply staggering. It's scared me I'm telling you like screaming dislike. You're kidding me. The State has seen the fastest growth rates in the world. So I'll ever you watching Louisiana register more and more cases of covert nineteen. Meanwhile next door in Mississippi. It was more or less business as usual. Why was governor you so reluctant to ask people to stay home? I think what you've seen with. People like Governor Reeves and other governors in conservative states is a desire to follow the rhetoric. That is coming out of the White House. America wants to be open and Americans want to be open and at times. Donald Trump's rhetoric on what the correct responses with the corona virus has been incredibly confusing and difficult to follow. And so you kind of see scattergun approach across the country when it to who shut I on what time. So ultimately reeves and a host of other conservative governors across the. Us South didn't issue stay at home mortars until the decision not to close down. Basically became politically untenable. We are now at the point and Mississippi Cycle Drastic measures may be required. Today is the day. We are announcing a shelter in place order. It will go into effect Friday at five. Pm You mentioned that. Mississippi is one of the poorest states in the country. But where you headed. Boxy does have a pretty healthy economy. What are some of the industries in that area? Yes us she said. Block see is in one of the more prosperous areas of Mississippi. It's by the coast and so it's a pretty picturesque town out. Twenty five percent of its economy is driven by tourism so relatively strong fishing industry there. I am the LEXI. Hundreds of thousands come to my shores to play to shop and when the sun goes down the sky lights up with excitement am the Luxembourg when you drive into blocks see basically the first thing that you see is a line of huge hotels and casinos. And that's really what's kind of dominated industry about town for decades now. Now Open the President Casino at Rod. Water Beach Resort Luxy Mississippi misled Sir degree of prosperity. That is in contrast and much of Mississippi You visiting at the time of year where the weather is warming up starting to get nice and you spoke to one restaurant worker whose normally doing very brisk business this time of year before the pandemic. I was working him anywhere from forty to forty five hours a week. Can you tell me about the Wilkerson price? So works in. Price moved to block see a few years ago and really moved that tryon sure up his life. I through hard times and I try not looking future too much during hard times. I just lived for the day. He is about homelessness drug addiction and wanted to come to block sip because he saw a financial future for him and his three sons Twenty one year old eighteen year old and fourteen year old Two older ones work with me. The eighteen year old graduating this year. So He's been working a seafront restaurant there for the past couple of years and basically when I asked him how his life was doing before corona virus he basically said he turned a corner and that things are getting much better for him. We're don't really I mean Tucson's I work with full time. Also at the restaurant. Work at their dishwashers there. To my two older sons we all pitch in and well worth the other as a family to get everything paid so we actually have a very easy even though we do let weak. The weak but You that all three of US got laid off at the same time. How do they feel when he heard that his restaurant would be closing because of this pandemic he was absolutely devastated and even reflecting on a month after he heard the news hit up when he spoke to me about it? I I'd sales about four days leading up to it. We own something happening. I everybody's breaking off to lie song. The hand sanitizer a lot more watching their phones and listening to the news. I had a feeling something was getting ready to happen. We didn't quite know what it was and that last day. I can't I really can't explain excels totally lost. I just like everything worked out from underneath. It was rough basically his entire EB world and and the security that he built up for himself was taken away a with a single directive from his boss. Where actually I work. We're told pretty much. Go home until further notice. That's devastating. What did he do when he got the news? It's the moment Lee lost his job. He instantly tried to think about ways to improvise the day. I lost my job about laid off The next day where opportunity. Gomo along the way we need a lawn mower we had an opportunity to go mow lawn mower so I went out with the last few bucks I had in my pocket Martha Law that he went out and learn more and his sons come out with him to my loans for twenty bucks ago asking the ads do that and the increase realize. That really wasn't going to be enough to keep him going through. We've cut out snacks special all traits. We don't have them. You know We've just concentrate on breakfast lunch and dinner and just getting through the day. He turned up food banks to try and get food. He relied on handouts from liquid assets groups. Next thing I know someone reach out to me on facebook and I had a Bagel box of super big box. Pancake mix overseen big jar of Syrup And it was a great blessing. And there's even a few bucks for gas. Which was very touching is that time. I'd have no gas anywhere and he will say relied on the kindness of his neighbors. He told me invited into their homes to feed him and family. I I am neighbors. Come over one night wrapped in and the mother. Dennis speak English showing spoke broken Spanish. She had her daughter with me and I wrote said that they had a Turkey. I went over to their house and it was the biggest most beautiful spiral ham I'd ever seen. I told him I said this. Turkey is a ham. Do you want me. Just put it in my freezer for you know. Eat It you know. I got a little girl speaking for him. And that was a blessing and All through this and ask my son. Danny I always say. Don't bless me. He's spoils me so Lee out of work but obviously for no fault of his own. This is much bigger than him. Was there any kind of public assistance that he could access the oversee qualifies obtain food stamps? Now which is federal government program to low income Americans access to stamps to exchange for food. He's also eligible to claim unemployment as well but he's had a huge amount of difficulty accessing both those programs the department overseeing unemployment claims that Mississippi has been completely overwhelmed by this crisis on employment. I can't our that. I've been on the phone. What what not ring and ring for weeks on end now. I mean every Monday I subscribe for four five dollars ring and nothing happens. Nobody site before the public hit. Mississippi was receiving around a thousand new unemployment claims each week but since nineteen is happened now receiving about forty six thousand claims a week. Make no mistake. This is not only public health disaster. This is also an economic disaster in Mississippi and in this nation we understand that with the workload at the Department of Employment Security Being thirty x compared to what it was two weeks ago. I just ask you to be patient. Put yourself in those employees shoes. What about from the federal government on the trump administration was sending out stimulus checks to Americans around the country to did that make difference relief so Lee received his check from Donald Trump. Twelve hundred dollar. Check that every American is entitled to is part of the stimulus package that was passed by Congress. When you talk about a six point two trillion dollar bill and this will deliver urgently needed relief to our nation's families workers and businesses and That's what this is all about. Don't trump it's been pains to make sure that his name is on. Every one of those checks they sent out but basically lead hoped me now was essentially not enough for him. It's me day today. The past two weeks. I put food in the fridge. We've basically take taking care of day-to-day needs with that. I don't think it was narrow enough for now. I think we could have been something a little better. You know the beyond frustration. 'cause I'm not one looking for a handout. You know so. We made it clear. He's very ready to go back to work. But our customers ready to come back to his restaurant. So national polling is very very clear most people very much opposed the idea of reopening quickly and putting public health at risk overall. Most Americans do not support opening certain public spaces. This far as restaurants go very revealing a huge. Seventy eight percent of people polled. Do not feel comfortable eating out at a sit down restaurant right now on a casual visit down to the beach in exceed the took on Sunday. It's pretty clear that there are a number of people in South Mississippi who Very ready and willing to get the economy going again when you made your way to the beach. What was the mood like there? I'm what was the scene? So it was quite surreal to me to go from basically a deserted empty ghost town which is what looks. Ca's when you go down the main drag the beach where there were hundreds of people. Many of whom were observing social distancing and clearly just trying to get breath of fresh air basically an an escape from the oppression of the shutdown is doing to people on the other hand. There were quite a few people who were not observing social distancing. I Walk Past. That was offering jet ski rental. And there were about dozen people queuing up none of them wearing masks or very closely packed into each other. Just waiting to get on a Jetski. Basically and some people. I met who were very very skeptical about you. Know official statistics on the number of nineteen deaths. Skeptical about how lethal and dangerous. The virus actually is from from what I've read and heard a lot of of stories about Inflated numbers of infections and a lot of it has to do with no way that those are counted down a little bit You know skeptical. Skeptical of some government Studies and skeptical about what I work in. Essential Industry and and In transportation and is I don't know what any one person met has contracted you know corona virus. But you don't speak. Sixty thousand people have died from it in the US again. I'm skeptical that number saying that. It solely contributed to cover nineteenth so that was a pretty confronting thing to hear from people who were just so he turned up for a beach day. What do you think about it? I don't know like you know some days. They said over mass. Say not to wear masks as you know just like you said certain places are open and everybody's creativity in other places or not you're not allowed to do perp service so I just got. This is not making sense. Hate to say it. It's just you know people are GonNa die. It's GonNa Happen. It's not the best but is that from code. We do we really know that for back some of its elderly some of its respiratory two different things. I get back. Work seems shocking. So those are the beachgoers but you spoke to some healthcare workers to I take it very seriously I'm very concerned every day that I go into the hospital. I imagine they had a different perspective. Yeah so I spoke to Leah Campbell. Who is a physical therapist who works directly with nineteen patients in the area? So for the past month I've been working strictly on a covert unit. This is not in the ICU. This is at a patients are sick enough to be hospitalized but not sick enough to be on a ventilator. My responsibility is to help them move. Help them prevent secondary complications from staying in bed? Just help prepare them to to go back home. Hopefully that's the goal when I spoke to her about. I'd seen down at the beach. Tom Had I think she was shocked. I think she was angry. There's no excuse for it. I think it's incredibly selfish behavior. There's no there's there's no shortage of credible inaccurate information about this disease for people to educate themselves So in my mind people are making a willful decision to put other people at risk and I have seen the consequences of doing that. It makes me. It really honestly makes me angry when we come back. What a spike. In Mississippi's corona virus case numbers means for the decision to reopen the state. Well let's talk about those numbers Oliver. What has the case load? Been LIKE MISSISSIPPI. And what does the death toll there? So far. They've safer and seven thousand eight hundred cases in the state and around three hundred ten death time. We're talking what has become incredibly apparent in. Mississippi is the racial disparity when it comes to those who are dying from Cairo. Nineteen so hundred. Seventy six people have died from covered. Nineteen Mississippi or black. That's fifty seven percent of the death toll but they only make up. Thirty seven percent of the population and by the Mississippi was one of the first ten states in the nation to actually report deaths and cases based upon demographic data based upon race in other areas. And I'm proud of the Mississippi State Department of Health of being proactive and being that's really a trend that you're seeing across the United States is incredibly pronounced in places like Mississippi and Louisiana in the deep South not unfortunately seems to echo what we've seen here in the UK where Black Asian and ethnic minority populations have been particularly hard hit in this pandemic. But if you just look at the numbers and the death toll in Mississippi so far has been in the hundreds but the unemployment figures are on the many tens of thousands each week. Is there a case to be made that the governor is doing the right thing? I think it depends who you ask really the Acquis Bookstore of immediate aid casino. Shut down twelve thousand jobs just. I spiked the mayor of Baloch. See who basically said absolutely. Yes that is the right thing to do. He recited one of trump's catchphrases throughout this. Which is that. The Cure shouldn't be worse than the disease is going to be worse than than than the problem. Because I you know. The problem is addressed properly again with the plane reopened with the suggested. That feels comfortable in the amount of relaxing of guidelines that the governor has issued. We're actually going through. You know what we need in order to figure out how we can get back to a reasonable normal safe. Of course now come. We'll be normal. Guidance from the White House has been that state should be seeing a continued. Fourteen Day dropoff in the number of covered nineteen cases before they start reopening. And so what you're seeing in some states around the country the Rei opening places like California and a few other democratic locations are doing out there really observing that data before they make those moves. That's absolutely not the case in Mississippi. So last Friday Mississippi saw its highest number of diagnosed covered nineteen cases today the state of Mississippi. So it's largest single day increase in covert nineteen cases. We also solve our largest increase in death. Numbers and Monday refuted its second. Highest number of nineteen cases. Despite that governor has pushed ahead with trying to what does justification for doing that for for disregarding the numbers so governor reeves basically says that Mississippi is not comparable with other hotspots governor. Why are you reopening Mississippi at all when you haven't met the the White House guidelines a steady downward trajectory to strike wakes you? That's a great question Chris and and it's a fair question. What I would tell you is that you have to understand that. Mississippi is different than New York in Mississippi Is Different Than New Jersey. In those two instances and by the way my neighbor to the West was the same in Louisiana. They had a huge spike in cases over a very short period of time and then but Mississippi's not like that. What have seen this for the last thirty low in number of cases. That hasn't really peaked. Above three hundred. Three hundred fifty. He is suggesting that the guidance he has received directly from the White House. Is that those guidelines. The doctor burks others out there. Don't apply to Mississippi if you speak to people like lear who working on the front lines at this pandemic. I think they see it very very differently again. I think it's a reflection of the ideology of pudding the economy before public health. And I think that's irresponsible and I think it's unproductive to be honest if your if your goal is to get the economy up and running and healthy Then you need healthy people to make that economy run and this is not the way to go about it so she seems very upset at the government for not handling this better. What did he blame governor reeves or or president trump so? I asked a few times. The he blamed anybody what he was going through. And he was very reticent to blame anybody like saved on the best he could do. We've never really had to go through this before. So who do we have him a judge against for what how he's handled it? You know I am. He's deeply religious and said that he relied on his faith to get him free. This time he also said the He's incredibly thankful for the charity that he's received throughout the pandemic but he was very reluctant to talk about what the government owed him and what he should be entitled to as a citizen when you spoke to League governor reason started to ease some restrictions on what kinds of businesses could we was beginning to pick up shifts at his restaurant again. They could serve customers. Takeout and as of today restaurants in Mississippi conserved dine in customers to what are the new measures taking effect in the state? They try to get the economy running again. The Mississippi is moving very quickly to try and reopen. Say They are now gathering twenty people out in the open. Air The opening up restaurants that have to be deep cleaned before that opened and work at fifty percent capacity. They're putting up public parks and retail services as well so it's one of those states that's moving very quickly towards ripening when you can trust what you're seeing even states like California which also moving towards reopening but doing it on a much more measured pace. Are these measures enough? I was worried about his safety. I think Lee he understands the risks. Lee reads the news. He understands absolutely what's going on but at the same time. He says the benefits to going back to work outweigh the risks because he needs the money to support his family. Longest obeys by the rules. You know the social distancing. I believe we'll be right. I mean some of us have to get back to work. We haven't mailed dead. Get through to unemployment or food stamps and I believe some of US need to get back to work me personally. I don't I don't want I don't want on appointment. I don't want to stamps. I don't like Oh hand its own my own worried. When you're going in is still the pandemic still no immunity to this virus? Vaccine experts questioning. The you know going back to soon could lead to another spike in in infections. You're worrying about new guy back. I don't have time to worry about that. I take my family. I mean really. That's how I look at it. I just have to lay my faith in God and I'm not worried about it. I'm not a hundred percent. Sure whether it's not still playing on his mind a little bit but what other people say to you is. This is not a choice that people should be forced to make and that is unfair. The poor workers likely you have already been living paycheck to paycheck who are relying on their employees to basically keep that livelihoods going should be forced into choosing between putting their personal and the family's health at risk and going back and taking money for job that was earlier this week that even trump is pushing nationwide to get states to reopen their economies. His administration is basically privately projecting that this is going to increase the death toll across the country so the death toll could reach around three thousand per day by the beginning of June which is higher than the number of that we have at the moment which is one thousand seven hundred and fifty so I think there is definitely an ben at some levels of government that this push to reopen is essentially going to cause more deaths Oliver. Thank you so much holidays. Piece on reopening Mississippi will be out in the Observer. This Sunday you can follow all of his reporting at the Guardian Dot. That's it for today. This episode was produced by me. Mightily row sound design was by Axel Cudi. The executive producers are filming our and Nicole Jackson. We'll be back tomorrow.

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NPR News: 02-17-2020 8PM ET

NPR News Now

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NPR News: 02-17-2020 8PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Barbara Klein. More than three hundred Americans are back in the US after being quarantined on a cruise ship off Japan in the ongoing Corona virus outbreak from Hong Kong NPR's Jason Bobi and reports other countries are now trying to get their citizens off the ship. Australia and Canada are both attempting to set up arrangements to extract their people. Hongkong says it's going to send two flights on Thursday to take about three hundred Hongkongers back to Hong Kong. Those people are going to be subject to a fourteen day quarantine when they get back. Israel is also Setting up a special wing of a hospital where they're planning to quarantine Israelis who are coming back who've been on the ship and they're even planning to use robots to to take the vital signs of those patients as they're being monitored in quarantined there. Npr's Jason bobbie-ann reporting from Hong Kong. A bill to outlaw assault style. Weapons in Virginia has gone down to defeat in the state legislature in a tweet the NRA is thanking members and gun owners who turned out to oppose the ban thousands of them from around. The country protested in Richmond last month. Whitney Evans of member station. Vp 'EM reports. The bill would have banned the sale or purchase of assault weapons after twenty twenty one and it would have outlawed the possession of large capacity magazines silencers and bump stocks gun rights groups. Say it would make thousands of law-abiding Virginians felons overnight but gun control advocates including Lori Haas with the coalition to stop gun. Violence say it would reduce the death toll in mass shootings. Haass's daughter was shot twice and survived the two thousand seven Virginia Tech Shooting. That left thirty two dead. It's absolutely ridiculous. A Democrats walked back on this issue when it got them the majority a December poll conducted by the Watson Center for public policy included that a slight majority of Virginians support banning assault style weapons for NPR news. I'm Whitney Evans. After days of heavy rain in the South Mississippi's Pearl River crested today. Some one thousand homes are flooded. Mississippi public broadcasting's Ashley Norwood reports governor. Take Res says the river is draining and forecast fall below major flood stage soon but warns Mississippi is not to return home yet. We do expect the water to recede relatively quickly over the next two to three days as it is receding is going to be fast flowing water and just like was the case over the weekend. We strongly discourage anyone from getting in or trying to drive through the water reeves cautions that more heavy rainfall expected this week and could cause problems in counties downstream for NPR news. I'm Ashley Norwood. In Jackson Mississippi this is NPR pier. One imports has filed for chapter eleven bankruptcy protection and Bill Ziebel of member station K. E. R. A. Reports. The retail giant is now up for sale pier. One imports began in nineteen sixty two with one store in California catering to post World War. Two baby boomers retail outlets blossomed across all fifty states and Canada with merchandise also sold south of the US border at one point pier. One had more than a thousand stores now wants to sell and it'll take bids until March. Twenty third lenders are providing more than a quarter million dollars to keep it going pier one previously announced. It will close four hundred. Fifty stores including every outlet in Canada to distribution centres are also closing pier. One is another brick and mortar institution. Now downsizing or dying at the hands of online upstarts like wayfair and Amazon. I'm Bill Ziebel in Dallas Canadian. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is struggling to resolve the impasse with indigenous rights groups. That's closed down. Canada's major railway networks protesters are opposing a natural gas pipeline planned on native land. The world's richest man Amazon founder. Jeff bezos says. He's going to spend ten billion dollars of his personal money to fight climate change in an instagram post today. The CEO says his new Bezos Earth Fund will start giving out grants this summer to scientists activists and nonprofit groups. Amazon has a huge carbon footprint. I'm Barbara Klein NPR news.

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Full Episode: Tuesday, July 30, 2019

World News Tonight with David Muir

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Full Episode: Tuesday, July 30, 2019

"Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions. Then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today. Indeed dot com slash tonight. That's indeed dot com slash tonight tonight. Several developing stories as we come on the air deadly Walmart shooting authorities say the gunman was a disgruntled employee taking a CO workers with deadly force shooting a police officer to who was raised to the hospital. They believe he's alive because of his bulletproof vest also breaking news coming in from North Korea right now what they've now done our Ford correspondent standing by the Severe Thunderstorm Watch in the Northeast as we come on the air tonight as lightning strike hits at least six people today on the East Coast and the father who did not survive trying to save his eleven year old son in a rip current. The boy made it to shore horrific case unfolding tonight. Multiple family members killed than police say a man firing his way into a second home the sheriff now asking tonight. Was this suspect imitating. Jamie close case President Trump doubling down tonight describing Baltimore as hell and declaring he is the least racist person person in the world the new turn to American teenagers accused of killing a police officer in Rome authorities in Italy now revealing the seven inch knight used in the attack in the race for twenty twenty tonight in the showdown this evening with one candidate now widening their lead your privacy tonight the massive security breach what we've now learned one hundred million people social security numbers addresses stolen how to know if you're affected and what you should do right now. Rebecca Jarvis standing by the miracle toddler flirt slipping through a railing here dangling from that balcony and what they do on the ground to save him this is A._B._C. news tonight with David Muir visiting and it's great to have you with us here on a Tuesday night and we begin tonight with another deadly workplace shooting this time at a Walmart and employees opening fire on Co workers and on an officer the suspect showing up early this morning targeting those fellow workers. He shot that officer to they say that officer survived only because he had a bulletproof vest on the gunman was shot. He did survive. He's now under arrest to Co.. Workers are dead. Shaken employees gathered outside learning it was one of their own tonight the heartbreak break and the search for answers in South Mississippi A._B._C.'s Stevenson Saami lead us off from the scene tonight six thirty three this morning customers who just walked town of this twenty four hour Walmart Supercenter in suburban. Memphis say that the gunfire started in the parking lot and then the man with the firearm ran inside the store. Kinda shook a couple of really once people realized what was going on. They all just flooded out what was going on was yet another active shooter according to Walmart the accused gunman was a disgruntled told employees police have arrested thirty nine year old Martez Abram now charged with two counts of murder his alleged victims are two men witnesses say he knew Anthony Brown the store's store's manager and Brandon gaels whose family says he worked for Walmart for sixteen years. Both men were shot dead. Police arrived just minutes later. Two of our officers and candidates did the suspect house outside on the west side parking lot of the building. One of our officers were shot at this time. The officer who was shot was saved by his his bulletproof vest the other officer fired and wounded the accused gunman who was hospitalized and needed surgery and remains in police custody tonight and steelers listen. Saami joins US live tonight from the scene of this shooting and Steve. You've learned that the police there had just conducted active shooter training exercises. Yes David Police here finished first formal active shooter training just two weeks ago and I just spoke with the mayor of this city who says that the accused gunman set a fire inside the store so they're certain he intended to hurt more people and are thankful their officers shut him down David. We are thinking about the people of South haven tonight. Steve Thank you and we are also following a breaking taking headline out of North Korea tonight the newest provocation and it comes just days after they launched a new type of ballistic missile and moments ago the White House now saying they are aware of this new report board. Here's our foreign correspondent James Longman with late reporting tonight less than one week after Kim Jong Hoon fight off too short range ballistic missiles news tonight. He's at it again. South Korean news agency Yonhap reporting multiple unidentified projectiles will launch from the Hobo Peninsula North Korea's east coast today. Hey president trump insisting his relationship with dictator remained strong relationship with Kim. Jong UN is very good one as Jill. You've seen a we'll see what what happens. I can't tell you what's going to happen. It was one month ago today. The President and Kim met at the demilitarized zone trump becoming the first American president to step into the North Korean territory. I'll be okay no direct tools at all between the two countries Greece so let's get right to James. Longman live in London tonight and James. In just the last twenty four hours. We take note that Secretary of State. Mike Pompeo said that he hopes nuclear negotiations will start a quote again very soon and now this news tonight David tonight know when or if that will happen we do know the last. Communication with North Korea was last week when a trump administration officials delivered photographs of the President and came together at the D._M._Z.. Tonight the senior administration officials tells they are aware of the new launch and monitoring this situation David James Longman on the breaking news tonight James. Thank you back here at home into the news here a severe thunderstorm watch in the northeast stance. We begin tonight at least six people were struck by lightning working on a rooftop in Wellington Florida four rushed to the hospital and all of this comes as to tropical disturbances are brewing in the Atlantic and the hurricane now is at a cap four level. Let's get right to meteorologist Rob Marciano. He's tracking it. All for us live tonight. Hey Rob I david the heat and humidity ahead of this front is really made for some potent storms. We had seventy six mile per hour wind gusts just north of Burlington you see on the radar here upstate New York a lot of trees down Ithaca back through Pennsylvania's the as well that watch is up until nine o'clock Tonight Front Moves East tomorrow I ninety five city is GonNa get some big boomer's that will eventually break the heat thankfully and those hurricanes in the Pacific civic two of them flossy and Eric Eric more concerned category four now less than a thousand miles on the big island suddenly tracks weakening. We hope we're also watching disturbance right now over Puerto Rico giving them some record rains that disturbance is rolling towards the southeast will parts of the U._S.. Heavy downpours David a lot to watch these days ahead rob. Thank you now to the horrific string of of murders in Wisconsin. We're following tonight gunmen killing three family members then shooting his way into a second home killing a woman there and wounding her parents and tonight the sheriff is now saying that that suspect may have been imitating the abduction of teenager Jamie Kloss. Here's A._B._C.'s Alex Perez tonight a horrifying scene police say may have been been a copycat crime. A Rich German junior is accused by police of killing four people and may have been imitating the high profile abduction last year of teenager Jamie clause by shooting his way into the family home of one woman he may have intended on kidnapping kind of similar nature <hes> in the KLOSS investigation fishing the door was breached. <hes> <hes> shotgun was used <hes> MR close was shot. <hes> Mrs Costs Reshad authorities say German killed three of his own family members at their home in Lafayette Wisconsin before heading to the home of the woman shooting and injuring her parents and killing her before killing himself police say this may have been a failed kidnapping attempt. There's some items that we found in the vehicle the way the vehicles left and running last October just is forty miles away. Jamie clause was abducted from her parents home. Clause eventually escaped her abductor sentenced to life in prison for kidnapping her and murdering her parents David investigators say they're now reviewing text messages between the gunmen and the woman. They believe he was trying to kidnap the motive in this case remains unclear clear David Alright Alex Perez. Thank you next tonight. We are learning more about the victims and the survivors of that mass shooting at a food festival in California. You remember the pictures the gunman unleashing shing at the family event people running in panic. Three people died and what we've now learned about this case tonight A._B._C.'s wheel car in Gilroy California again this evening tonight. Investigators are scouring this massive crime scene trying to figure out why Santino William Lagaan opened fire on a packed food festival the authorities now zeroing in on the murder weapon. They say the suspect legally bought the AK forty seven style rifle in Nevada on July ninth right the gun store posting on facebook to suspect was acting happy in showed no reasons for concern we say he then illegally transported the gun into California before killing three including thirteen year old Kayla Salazar who died as she stayed back with a relative with a cane in twenty five year old Trevor Irby his parents speaking exclusively with A._B._C. Station K. G. O. Wish I could have held the when he went to Eh in all more than a dozen injure so this is actually the one that way in and out of my league bullets grazed both Justin Bates in his best friend Nick McFarland. The doctor said about five to seven different bullets grazed me. I'm a walking miracle or not. We just found out the suspect's family actually thought that he might have been a victim that he might have been killed at the festival behind me when they didn't hear from him for a long time ultimately though David they found out that he was the gunman David will car tonight. We'll thank you president trump wrapping up his attacks on Maryland Congressman Elijah Cummings and on the city of Baltimore saying the people there are living in Hell. That's what he said today adding that they're largely African American and that they really appreciate what I'm doing. A._B._C.'s careful of just live at the White House tonight and cure the president also pushing back against those accusations that he's racist and here's what he said today. I am the least racist person there is anywhere in the world what I've done for african-americans endure on a half years. No president has been able to do anything like it and cure the president speaking today Jamestown Virginia Commemorating Four Hundred Years of representative government here but a number of lawmakers decided to skip the speech. That's right David Virginia's legislative Or who did show up and he took the opportunity to protest shouting Mr President. You cannot send us back. Virginia is our home a reference. You'll remember member to the racist chant that broke out at the president's most recent rally in Greenville North Carolina David Phillips at the White House. Thank you cure and tonight that issue of race in Nisa rhetoric lately will likely come up during this newest Democratic presidential debate another likely topic front runner Joe Biden even though he won't be on the stage tonight on night one in fact look at this a new National National Quinnipiac poll says the former vice president increasing his lead with thirty four percent of Democratic voters now supporting him Elizabeth Warren Kamala Harris Bernie Sanders people to judge all trailing behind aligned so let's get right to Mary Bruce. She's live in Detroit for the debate tonight and Mary. This is a make or break moment really for many of the candidates. They got to try to break through the pack and it's a large one. We'll David for so many of the candidates on the wings here tonight who have been struggling to break through. They have to have some kind of moment here if they wanNA survive as for the candidates in that Middle Tier like Amy Kluber H._r.. Beto rourke and Pete Buddha judge they're also looking for a much needed boost. These moderate candidates are trying to distinguish themselves from their progressive rivals on issues like health care and education and but they're also trying to make the case that they invest appeal to those voters in the key swing states David Mary. Let's laser it onto others because right at the center tonight Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren Campaign and similar similar issues they both teamed up in the past but of course the big question tonight. Will they take each other on David. The focus here is all on these two Progressive Powerhouses Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are running on many of the same issues. They're fighting for the same voters they are close friends and political allies. Tonight is going to test their truce but both both campaigns. Tell us this is simply. not the night are going after each other David Mary Bruce with US live from Detroit. Mary thank you and overseas to Italy now and a new turn in the case of those two American teenagers Sater's accused of killing a police officer authorities tonight now revealing an image of the seven inch knife that they say was used in the attack A._B._C.. Senior foreign correspondent. Ian Panel is in Rome tonight. The murder weapon used to kill an Italian policeman allegedly by an American teenager the blade seven inches long according into please plunged into the officer eleven times sometimes to the hilt police say eighteen year old Gabriel Natale and nineteen year old Finnegan Melda from California Sonja confessing to the stabbing officer Mareo Church Yellow Rageh after a drug deal gone bad depair allegedly stole a backpack from this spot later demanding bannon cashing cocaine for its return. They were spotted on surveillance running away but when police finally confronted them it allegedly turned violence leash thanks today the prosecutor saying L. declaim he was thrown to the ground and didn't know the men were please and he started stabbing. The surviving officer insisted they identified themselves as police and showed badges. He says he's partner fell to the ground crying. They stab me tonight a close family member confirming to A._B._C. Easy News New Finnegan Elderly was arrested in twenty sixteen for being involved in a prearranged fighter to party but insisting he doesn't have a criminal record. David Ian the panel in Italy tonight Ian Thank you back here now. The president's nominee to be the nation's number two military officer defending himself against allegations of sexual misconduct Air Force General John on heightened telling a Senate panel quote. Nothing happened ever as his accuser sat behind him in that room that accuser an army colonel says he's lying. A._B._C.'s Stephanie Ramos was there tonight the Air Force General in line to become the nation's second highest ranking military officer vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff forced to defend defend himself against sexual assault allegations are WANNA stay to you and to the American people in the strongest possible terms with these allegations are false general John Heightened in today's sitting just steps away from his accuser army Colonel Catherine Splettstoezar a former aide at U s strategic command the twenty eight year veteran told The New York Times in explicit detail that heightened her former boss sexually assaulted her in her hotel room during a conference in two thousand seventeen she claims it was one of several unwanted unwanted advances but a military investigation found insufficient evidence to charge or punish heighten today Senator Martha mcsally who has shared her own experience with sexual assault in the Air Force Ghaith heightened her full support sexual assault happens in the military. It just didn't happen in this case but some senators senators are concerned while we have not been presented with any corroborating evidence the lack of it does not necessarily mean that the accusations are true. SPLETTSTOEZAR Stolz tells us she worries high will be confirmed. It says that if you're a senior general officer who is popular guy you will get away away with Felony Sexual Assault David the Senate Armed Services Committee is such a vote tomorrow and we do expect heightened to be approved there but the full Senate would would need to confirm heightened nomination David Stephanie Ramos on the Hill For us tonight Stephanie Thank you and a suspect in the murder of a former Arkansas state legislator has learned she will face the death penalty former state senator. Linda Collins was found dead at her home last month. Rebecca O'Donnell a friend and former staffer was arraigned today in the former state senators murder after the preceding of Donald began to cry looking back at her daughters in the front row mouthing. I love you before she was led away. There is still much more Tonight the massive security breach affecting more than one hundred million people new images just in tonight the F._B._i.. Rate and what you need to know how to protect yourself tonight also news coming winging skydivers colliding in mid air one person knocked unconscious before the parachute deployed how the diver survived for following tragedy off the coast tonight tonight the father drowning while trying to save his voice struggling in a rip current and the miracle toddler tonight slipping through this railing dangling from a balcony and what they did in the ground on right here in this moment to save that boy a lot more news ahead here stadium technology is supposed to make your life easier right. 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I've basically strapped myself with with a bomb vest. Dropping capital one's docs and admitting it so how can you protect your accounts take advantage of free credit monitoring and identity theft the protection offered by capital one to victims and check your bank statements regularly for fraud so let's get to Rebecca Jarvis. Who's been following this all day for US Rebecca the main question for people watching this at home tonight? How do you know if your information has been stolen? David capital one says they'll be reaching out directly to all those impacted but they cautioned. They won't be asking for personal information over the phone and if you get a call like that it's best to just hang up dating right away because at someone taking advantage of the situation all right Rebecca Jarvis with us tonight thank you to the index of other news and a father has died while trying to rescue his son in Atlantic City. His eleven year old was struggling in a rip current. 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Freedom Summer, 1964

HISTORY This Week

30:20 min | 3 months ago

Freedom Summer, 1964

"History this week? June, twenty, first nineteen, sixty four. I'm Sally. It's around ten PM in Central Mississippi. Three civil rights workers have just been released from jail. They were arrested earlier in the day allegedly for speeding. They've paid their twenty dollar fine and been allowed to leave. As, they had out the door. The deputy tells them see how quickly you can get out of Michigan County. These men don't need telling twice. They know what can happen. Civil Rights Workers in Mississippi. Two of them James, Chaney and Michael Schnur are experienced activists. The Third Andrew Goodman is a newly arrived volunteer. Cheney is Bach, born and raised in Mississippi shorter and Goodman are white New Yorkers. All three of the men are young. Twenty Twenty One and twenty four years old. Start to drive home Donna dark rural highway. And then they realize they're being followed. By two cars and a beliefs cruiser, all full of white men. They turn off the highway trying to get away, but it doesn't worry me. Their pursuers catch up to them. The three men are forced out of their station wagon into the police cruiser. They're taken to a remote spot called rock cut road. The cruiser slow to a halt. The next morning headline in the local paper reads three civil rights. Workers reported missing. We didn't try to wait until they found the body given the circumstances new, they were dead. Today the story of a pivotal action in the civil rights movement. Freedom Summer. What happened when experienced block organizers teamed up with hundreds of white volunteers to take on the structures of power, and how did the disappearance of these three men finally make the nation? Take a hard look at what was happening in Mississippi. For history anytime anywhere sign up for a free trial of history volt. Stream. Full episodes of over two thousand award, winning history documentaries and series all commercial free on your favorite device. Plus new videos added to the vault every week. Sign up now and explore the greatest stories in history. From ancient civilizations to American history, modern warfare and more. To Start Your free trial visit history vault dot com today. Cheney at Schwerin and Goodman were initial county that day in June to investigate an act of violence. The Ku, Klux. Klan had attacked a church that had been gathering place for civil rights activists. They set the building on fire and then beat up black parishioners as they tried to flee. This kind of thing wasn't rare in Mississippi. The state had the highest rate of lynchings of any state in the nation. The perpetrators of violence were lawyers, judges sheriffs doctors. Black Mississippians had to fear for their lives and most were forced to live in extreme poverty. That day in June nineteen sixty four. The burning of Mount, Zion Church was just the latest in an unending string of violent attacks. People were fed up and tired. It fell to three twenty something men two of whom had grown up in New York to investigate this crime. And to understand that part of the story yet meet Bob Moses. If you own New York City, and where Yankees Stadium is on the edge of the Harlem with We moved in there when I was two years old. Moses spent his formative years in New York City. then. He went to Hamilton College where he was one of very few black students in nineteen sixty. He's in his mid twenties. He's a high school math teacher and he's following the unfolding civil rights movement. I watched newspapers with the pictures of the sitting kids that were all of sudden young black kids appearing on the front page of the New York Times it never. Before and I felt like well, I have to see this up close. Lot of the action is taking place far away in the south. And Moses decides to go down and get involved that summer. He ends up taking a bus trip through the south to help recruit people to the cause and there. He sees violence. That hasn't been making the front page. For example in Birmingham was just. Bombing. In a black neighborhood and none of the news. Available. Just working. On that same trip, Moses's travels into the very heart of racist violence in the south. Mississippi! In. Cleveland Mississippi in Doubt Better Net MT Moore. Who actually knew what to do? He said you know there's there's no particular reason to come and sit in the delta, but is every reason to work on voter registration. At the time there were about one point, two million white people living in Mississippi, and just over nine hundred thousand black people, but only about five percent of the state's black population was registered to vote. Some counties didn't have a single registered black voter for a reason. If you registered to vote. Your name would be printed in the paper, and that might make you a target for violence and intimidation. You could be fired evicted even killed, and it blew my mind. Guy I've been listening. You know all through college and I graduated everywhere about behind the curtain. Need for the people behind it. Vote and everything. No one ever mentioned. We had a whole congressional district on majority black and nobody was folding. So I signed up I said Tansy. I'M GONNA. Come back and work with you by the way Amsi more. The man Moses just mentioned. He's a civil rights leader, and one of dozens of people Moses credited in our interview. I mentioned but. VACO change Denver retained on door. Tanking Jones. Close. Most is a civil rights icon, though not necessarily a household name and in our interview, it became clear that he's the type of leader who doesn't see himself working alone. He kept crediting this huge network of people all working together. Moses ends up moving to Mississippi and starts registering voters alongside Amsi more and many others. They're working at a very grassroots level, and in the country at large in the early sixty s, the civil rights movement is picking up steam. In August, nineteen, sixty three. There's the famous march on Washington where Dr Martin Luther King makes this I. Have a dream speech. But Mississippi really feels like a place apart. Through his work Moses is becoming intimately acquainted with the violence there. He's been beat up by the highway patrol. He's seen friends and colleagues murdered without consequences, and that drives home to him this difficult truth. To black people was not important country. What happens to way, kids I'd prestigious universities. This becomes the seed of a powerful political idea. Tell me about the idea for the summer project. Where did that come from well? That's the interesting part because we weren't really into well. Who's idea is this? that. The idea was this. What, if we bring privilege white students into Mississippi to help with voter registration efforts. What kind of extra attention could that bring to the cause? Of the economy and building among black people in Mississippi. Was You so? socially. Culturally revolutionary, it added never happened. And, so they brought the country with. And the country. They are. Forced to take a look at itself. Just doing that? Was a goal. Among the black organizers, this idea was controversial to this day to well, that should never happen. Fast members felt that this was sort of the project, and that was important that it was really run by Young African American. She'll send creatures, but we actually position to see if we get a much larger commitment. A commitment from white people around the country. Who didn't seem to care about what was happening in Mississippi? And so in the summer of nineteen, sixty four, the organizers launch the Mississippi Summer Project later called freedom summer. In June about eight, hundred white, mostly middle class. Students gather on a college campus in Ohio for training. They'll be taught by experienced black organizers. Among the white students is heather booth an eighteen year old from New York. We talked to her about what it was like in Ohio. So they were role plays that we were subjected to where we there had to act as the white racists, calling other freedom workers, attacking them, and then also playing volunteers. Not Succumbing violence ourselves and the overall importance of just protecting people's lives. There were also talks about the history and politics of Mississippi at one white volunteers saw a video of a weight registrar in the state who prevented black voters from exercising their rights, and he's a huge guy. You know maybe two hundred pounds. The volunteers burst out laughing and that the settle feel tech occurs. This person wasn't a joke, but a real serious impediment to their freedom. They knew him personally. There was a real tension that many felt. In, part the question of learning about each other's cultures and background in the history, but also making sure the white northern students understood the black people have Mississippi were the people who were taking the risks. They were the people who were doing the work doing the work for years and as white volunteers we were there to help and support that we were not coming down with the arrogance that we often had of to show into teach to tell the people of Mississippi what we knew, and that tension broke out in one of the large plenary sessions that we had where some of the blacks Nick Staff. said. That we would be sacrificial lambs. I was stunned by that. On June twentieth the first wave of volunteers heads down to Mississippi the next day. Moses gets a terrible phone call. Cheney Sh- Werner and goodman are missing. Assumed dead. Beverly Student. Food? At that time, Heather and the rest of her training class are still in Ohio. And they gather to hear Bob Moses. Address the volunteers. Were Bob convened us into. One of these auditorium centers sections. To tell us that three of the young volunteers. Were missing. They probably were dead. Because they about to walk into it. And pay half to understand that this is real. So I basically talked to them. In a way I thought maybe they might relate to, because they will read tokens up it. I remember. He told us the story. Of The Lord of the Rings and out power can corrupt and distort people's views. And the impression I got is that we're really in a struggle for people's lives for the sharing of power. And then we have Somebody's saying on, and then they had to think through. But if they could stay on. Because, you know, you can't do political rally cry and say we're GONNA, do. It's just the opposite. Insight you. You Up to. Every person there to go inside him or herself. And to get that out. What's important that they do that? On their own. Some. Be Real introduction. And if anything it increased my commitment. And My will to. Almost every single one of them stayed. I didn't know what to expect actually, so it's not that I was surprised by it. I was gratified. Deeply gratified by it. And I think that. head to staff. This felt like the beginning of that broader commitment organizers had hoped for. The eight hundred students had to face the fact that their lives were at stake. and. They went to Mississippi Anyway. The cause was worth dying for. A few days after Moses's speech, the second wave of volunteers leaves Ohio. Getting to know each other on the bus, a lot of chatting remember they're teenagers. There was a lot of singing singing always helped. Bind us together. And meanwhile every news outlet in the country is reporting on the three missing men. And the idea that now all these other young white college kids might be danger, prompted parents all over a immediately began wearing that Congress people White House. You know. Their daughter son. That's going down to this place where people at the end up. One hundred and fifty F. B. I.. Agents have been dispatched to Mississippi to launch an investigation into the disappearances. And in Washington, DC president Lyndon B, Johnson is under pressure. He's been in the Oval Office for less than a year. He'd been Kennedy's vice president up until the assassination and Johnson is facing a big piece of legislation. The Civil Rights Act. It will offer significant protections for black Americans, but for Johnson signing. This bill is politically risky. He faces an election in the fall, and it will be his first time running at the top of the ticket. To win, he'll need at southern voters. Voters who will almost certainly turn on him if he signs the Civil Rights Act, but with the media coverage on the growing outrage over these disappearances. There is intense pressure from the civil rights movement and its supporters to pass the act. Less than two weeks after Cheney at Schwerin. Her and Goodman wanted missing. Johnson signs the Civil Rights Act into law. It's a huge victory for the movement right at the beginning of freedom summer. But in Mississippi. The project is really just getting started. We spent a lot of time getting. People signed up getting ready to go down to the courthouse and register to vote. When we brought them down and supported. They're taking this courageous steps to register. We were arrested. The volunteers were arrested and we were held overnight. All over the state, local government and the Klan are working to prevent voter registration. But progress is being made. Over one thousand black voters get registered summer. Forty freedom schools are teaching literacy and black history and sparking conversations about civics and activism and government. The. White volunteers are living side by side with block families and block activists. Meanwhile. The FBI is investigating the disappearances, and as they search for Cheney showed and Goodman. They find something else. became drought to shovel murders. Of Young. Boys. Discovered women started investigating. Eight bodies are found. None of them is Cheney, Schnur or Goodman. All of them are young black men whose murders hadn't been investigated. Today we still only know three of their names. Henry de. Charles Moore. And Herbert Ormsby. In the shadow of continued violence, while volunteers continue to focus on grassroots activism. Bob Moses and other leaders decide to focus on a national plan. I spent a lot of time working on. Conventional Challenge? The convention challenge the Democratic National. Convention is set to happen that August in Atlantic City and Mississippi's delegation is completely white. They're known as the DIXIECRATS and they've threatened to turn Republican. They're angry that Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act. So civil rights leaders see an opportunity. If the dixiecrats leave, someone could take their place. They've been organizing this new political party run by black voters the Mississippi. Freedom Democratic Party, and they decide. Let's see the MVP, at the convention. Then FTP holds local elections with newly registered black voters to pick delegates. And in August, they're ready. And they had up to Atlantic city. If you are enjoying history this week you should check out flashback a new podcast from the IHEART radio podcast network, and Ozzy. The creators of the Chart Topping Webby nominated podcast the thread, the law of unintended consequences is a simple, but often misunderstood rule of universe. Flashback explores the reasons. Some of our best laid plans have gone ride from policy making too personal lives from the courtroom to the environment, and it reveals those surprising stories that the history books never told you about Ozzy's. 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The NF DP is ready for their big showdown on the convention floor. But two days before the convention, they get some terrible news. The bodies of Schnur Chaney and Goodman have been found. Buried in an earthen dam on the property of known clan member. They already knew the men were dead, but the discovery of their bodies brings even more clarity to the movement at the convention. And it brings more national support to their cause. On the boardwalk outside activists, full posters of the three slain civil rights workers. And inside. They make their case to the credentials. Committee will get to decide who the official delegates will be. The strategy was to go before the credentials committee and the start course. Sandy Lou Hamer had grown up in share cropping family in the Mississippi Delta when he tried to register to vote, she'd been beaten and shot at. She's still registered, but then she was fired and evicted. G become an importance of rights organizer and at the Convention. She gives this powerful testimony. She sits at a table with her hands folded in front of her speaking to this Sea of white faces. I WanNa mail. The law of the home of the brave. We have to sneak. Without a phone. Call. The, reading! The Post. Season human beings at a math. The. Testimony is broadcast on national TV. But in the Middle President Johnson holds an emergency press conference. That day marks the nine month aniversary of President Kennedy's assassination. Seemingly he's just trying to get. Fannie Lou Hamer's Syrian speech off the air, but it backfired because they replayed speech that night on the three networks. We only had network thin. The activists have momentum. They feel like they might win. And Johnson is worried. He thinks that seating the MVP could lose him the entire southern vote in the upcoming election. He's working behind the scenes to wrap this up quickly and quietly. A one point Moses and other leaders get called into a meeting with representatives from the DNC apparently to talk about a compromise. A. And having Henry Indie, March, thirteen or ten in the middle of this. They're not doing the reporters all outside. Are Now to at it has already eappen there could be. Maybe build it. While leaders are in this meeting. A compromise has been officially passed. The MVP will get to quote delegates at large at the convention along with a statement that the Democratic Party stands and opposition to White Supremacy It's a sort of made up olive branch. The term delegates at large doesn't really mean anything. These delegates have no real power. To Moses it's not acceptable. There was. This crew that Pecan those back. And he stoned community at least I did the white dixiecrats are mad to? They refused to make this anti white supremacy statement. Instead they walk out. That night the convention's opening night. The activists decide to organize an auction. They'll be seated at the convention. No matter what it takes, I found. representatives from mid West. African American. LONELY THEIR BADGE and. I wear one. And then make. I don't know twenty or more trips I the. Door. We could go through and one by one. Gordon the members of Bamako P to pick them pension poor. They staged a sit in in Mississippi's open seats. Eventually, some white delegates and security guards surround them and escort them from the hall. The next day when the FDP returns to the convention floor. took away all the chairs. Mississippi and Protect the age and and rounded back. To the old convention. So the activists stand. Facing freedom songs, and at the end of that final day they watch as Lyndon Johnson is officially nominated for president. This loss at the Democratic national, convention becomes freedom. Summers unfortunate end. It comes with a sense of both change and stagnation. On the one hand, the violence and disenfranchisement of block people in Mississippi really is in the national spotlight now. and. Within a year, the voting rights act passes. By nineteen, seventy, roughly sixty seven percent of the block population in Mississippi will be registered to vote. Remember it was about five percent at the beginning of the decade. And the FBI does eventually arrest eighteen of the men who are responsible for the murders of Chaney Sh- Werner and Goodman But on the other hand, none of them serves more than five years in prison. Until two thousand five, when just one of the eighteen is finally charged with murder. He ultimately dies in prison in two thousand eighteen. He was ninety two. Many of the people that his crimes impacted didn't live to see justice done. So the legacy of freedom summer never really been. A particular lated in a way that I think the justice. First quarter foods and ship. A struggle that goes on to this day fifty six years later as protests have spread across the country police brutality. The names of George Floyd and Brianna. Taylor and Aubrey are some of the most recent that grief-stricken activists are calling out as they demand justice. The idea of citizenship has never been. Fairly realize for African Americans in. The population in the country from the very beginning, and so part of the legacy. Is the idea that. We the people that coach to. People. Should actually reach down and embrace. Everybody a crude in. African Americans. The legacy of freedom summer he says is an idea. Not yet a reality. Thanks for listening to history this week for more moments throughout history that are also worth watching. Check your local TV listings to find out what's on history today. and. We've been talking about voter registration. Don't underestimate the power of your vote for more information. 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October 3, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:33 min | 2 years ago

October 3, 2018

"Good Wednesday morning. I'm Anna Palmer and welcome to your politico playbook audio briefing sponsor by pharma, and I'm Jake Sherman the president sent a letter at a package of clips to Capitol Hill Wednesday, his first major outreach on the trade pact. He cut with Canada and Mexico. The letter on White House stationery says the trade deal US MCA has received antastic reviews. It will go down as one of the best ever made. And it will also benefit Mexico and Canada. The letter came with the New York Post opinion piece in Wall Street Journal, new story. We thought it was worth noting Mr President. If you want members of congress to be wowed by the coverage of your trade deal, pull local clips for lawmakers that show support in their regions of the country. The New York delegation is about the only group of people that will care about the post coverage of your trade deal, but it's good to start reaching out. We've got a I in playbook the congressional leadership fund the house. GOP super Pac has raised one hundred thirty two million dollars this cycle and forty million dollars since July first. The super Pac led by quarry bliss has forty five million dollars in the Bank for the last thirty four days until election day. See, left will file October fifteenth. So then we'll be able to see who is stroking the massive checks to try to save the GOP majority. The president was in south Mississippi last night for a campaign rally where he mocked Christine Blasi Ford's testimony before the Senate Judiciary committee. The stunning part of this almost every conversation we have with Republicans looking to save the house revolves around their trouble attracting educated women. The monster story of the day. The New York Times is a special investigation which runs fourteen thousand two hundred eighteen words reporting that the Trump family engaged in suspect tax schemes. The New York Times even says it engaged in instances of fraud. This was to increase the fortune he received from his father. The reporting is based on confidential. Tax returns and financial records showed Trump received the equivalent of at least four hundred thirteen. Million dollars from his father's real estate empire. The Washington Post is reporting that Michael Bloomberg is dumping twenty million dollars into the Senate majority Pat for Democrats in the twenty eighteen midterms. Bloomberg also said at dinner last night in New York that he would double his commitment to the league of conservation voters victory fund to five million dollars. The post is also reporting that ahead of the trade deal with Canada and Mexico. The president said, Canada's, foreign minister hates America and Darren Samuelson is reporting that special prosecutor, Robert Muller is downsizing with the departure of to prosecutors in what may be assigned that the Russian investigation could be nearing its final stages. Here's the latest on bread Cavanaugh the Huffington Post is reporting. The two of Kavanagh's former classmates have withdrawn their support of him because of the nature of his recent testimony CNN's Elizabeth Landers tweeted that Dianne Feinstein has indicated the FBI report on cavenaugh should not be made public. Deborah Ramirez lawyer. John Clooney tweeted that Ramirez both to the f. b. i. for more than two hours on Sunday. He called it a detailed and productive interview. Clooney also said they have great concern. The f. is not conducting a serious investigation Alana showroom versus Everett report that Christine Lasi. Ford is demanding an interview in the FBI probe. Here's what's on tap. For Trump's Wednesday, the president is having lunch with secretary of state Mike Pompeo. He will also meet with UN ambassador Nikki Haley at one forty, five pm subscribed to playbook at politico dot com. Slash playbook.

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04:39 min | 7 months ago

NPR News: 02-19-2020 11AM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Janine herbst. The former governor of Illinois has been released from a federal prison in Colorado Rod. Blagojevich served only eight years of his sentence for political before. President trump commuted his sentence. If you're Sheriff Corey reports Blagojevich has no apologies. And he says he did nothing wrong. Rob Blagojevich was sentenced to fourteen years in prison after he was convicted of several public corruption. Charges including trying to sell the US Senate seat. Vacated by former President Barack Obama president trump who hinted in the past that he might take some action called the sentence tremendously powerful and ridiculous and cut the sentence short. I I just believe that Sometimes out of evil you can good things can happen. And I think that the wickedness and evil that was done to me and my family can be turned to good maguire which was among nearly a dozen people that president trump granted clemency Cheryl Corley. Npr News Chicago. A new poll is helping lift former New York mayor. Michael Bloomberg on the to the debate stage in Las Vegas. Even though Bloomberg isn't a participant in the Nevada caucus. Paul Bogere from member station K. U. N. R. Reports by skipping the first set of nominating contests Bloomberg's been largely absent from discussions about the Nevada Caucus. That's because he's not up for consideration. He's not eligible for Nevada delegates. And there's no right and option on the ballot so as participation in the Las Vegas debate is largely a non entity for voters here standing in line to vote early in Reno and Dunlap says she hasn't paid Bloomberg any mind the only reason he's the tables because he has his own money and he's able to do that and because he's rich and he has rich friends if he's going to have good ideas and he wants to bring good ideas table totally but at this point in the game. I'm not really paying any close attention to that. Being said Democratic voters were quick to say they would support Bloomberg if he did receive the nomination for NPR news. I'm pulled over in Reno in Mississippi. Hundreds of homes and businesses are still without power as floodwaters recede around Jackson. But it's unclear when the lights will come back on some residents and hard hit areas around. The capital city are being allowed to return back home but utility officials say buildings in flooded areas. Event have to be inspected before service is restored. The Pearl River is already receding. But Alan Campbell. National Weather Service. Meteorologist says the rain will continue looking at anywhere from you. Know maybe maybe a half an inch to an inch and a half of rain across the area there on Thursday but right now it looks like that. The heavier amounts. You're gonNA stay more so across south. Mississippi flood warnings cover much of the south and some school systems in East Alabama delayed openings today because of the Rain Wall Street is trading in positive territory at this hour. The Dow is up one hundred twenty. Points the Nasdaq is up. Eighty three the S&P five hundred up. Sixteen you're listening to NPR news. From Washington in Manhattan deliberations are underway for a second day in the Harvey Weinstein Sexual Assault Trial. The former movie producer is charged with sexual assault. But he says any contact was consensual. A new study by the World Health Organization UNICEF and Lancet Medical Journal warrants climate change and harmful commercial. Marketing practices are endangering children's health as Lisa Shlein reports. The study finds intensifying. Climate Change threatens every child's future harmful. Advertising targeting. Children is another alarming. Global issue lead author of the report. Anthony Castillo says marketing practices that encourage the consumption of sugary drinks. Fast Food Tobacco. An underage drinking threatens children's health we face a massive rise in short child. Obesity which will have long term life long affects we see ten increase in obesity. Since nineteen seventy five from eleven million children in some countries. Casella says children are seeing thirty thousand a year but he warns the dangerous posed by the huge expansion of ads on social media is even more threatening for NPR news. I'm Lisa Line in Geneva producer. Prices Rose last month at the fastest pace. Since October of two thousand eighteen led by higher prices on services the Labor Department says its producer price index which measures inflationary pressures before they reached the consumer jumped a half percent in January for the year. Wholesale prices are up two point one percent crude oil prices also higher today up one point seven percent of fifty two dollars. Ninety seven cents a barrel. I'm Janine herbst. Npr News in Washington.

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NPR News: 05-07-2019 1PM ET

NPR News Now

04:58 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 05-07-2019 1PM ET

"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from the almond board of California, researching new uses for almond halls and shells, like strengthening recycled plastics, creating fuel brewing. Beer, and more. More about the almond communities zero waste goal at almondsustainability dot org. Live from NPR news in Washington, I'm Lakshmi Singh. Steep drop in the US markets. This hour's investors monitor escalating tensions over trade between the United States and China. The Dow is down more than four hundred points or one and a half percent. Nasdaq is fallen more than one point six percent. And the SMP's dropped one point four percent. The head of the FBI is breaking with the US attorney general's assertion last month at the Trump 2016 campaign was the target of spying today director, Christopher Ray told a Senate appropriations subcommittee that he would not use the term spying for surveillance. That was authorized by court people have different colloquial phrases. I believe that the F B is engaged in investigative activity and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes and to me the key question is making sure that it's done by the book consistent with our lawful. Authority Ray declined to discuss an ongoing FBI. A probe into the Trump campaign since it's part of an investigation conducted by the Justice department inspector general a meeting of the Arctic Council in Finland has ended with no joint declaration because of problems with the wording NPR's Jackie northern reports. The United States refused to sign a declaration that included language about climate change. Because the first time since the Arctic Council was formed in nineteen Ninety-six at the eight Member States could not agree on a declaration. Instead, a short vague statement was issued reaffirming the council's commitment to maintain peace ability and cooperation in the Arctic. There was no mention of climate change. The statement came one day after secretary of state, Mike Pompeo gave a speech before the council in which he challenged Canada and Russia's territorial claims to the polar region and warned about aggressive behavior by China, which has observer status in the council Pompeo acknowledged the Arctic has a fragile ecosystem that needs to be protected, but then painted the warming polar reach. As an economic opportunity with its abundance of oil, minerals and fish in Jackie Northam, NPR news. Authorities in south Mississippi of arrested two brothers in the shooting death of a police officer NPR's Debbie Elliott reports patrolman Robert Mckee thune was killed outside the Bellizzi police headquarters. Sunday local residents applauded as nineteen year old dairy in Atkinson was brought in handcuffs to the parking lot. Where officer Mckee was shot to death Atkinson faces a capital murder charge and his twenty one year old brother is charged as an accessory police released video showing the suspect enter Alexi police headquarters before the shooting it's unclear whether it was a random attack, or if McEachern was targeted Harrison county sheriff Troy Peterson says the saddest thing about the case is that there's no clear motive patrolman, Robert Mckee and had been with Alexi police force for twenty three years and had planned to retire later this year, this is NPR. Are. Voters in Denver will decide today whether to decriminalize what's called magic mushrooms Esther Hoenig of member station. K U N C reports. Supporters say they want safe access to the mushrooms mainly for medicinal use. If it passes it all twenty one or older caught using Silla Sivan mushrooms or even growing them for personal use will become the lowest priority for Denver law enforcement, the mushrooms, which cause hallucinations are the focus of ongoing medical research and could be used to treat things like depression, director of the Denver campaign. Kevin matthews. So it's time we stopped arresting adults for using a mushroom. That's not only safe for most people, but also has such tremendous medical potential campaigns in Oregon and California hope to get similar issues on their states ballot for the twenty twenty elections for NPR news. I'm Esther Hoenig in Colorado, comedian writer and actor Dave Chapelle is the winner of this years Mark Twain prize for. American humor. The John F Kennedy Center for the performing arts announced today that Chapelle will accept you ward at a gala performance, the shocked Hct the Grammy and EMMY award winning performer attended the Duke Ellington school of the arts in Washington DC where he's a hometown hero. He began performing in nightclubs in the city at age fourteen Chapelle went onto establish himself. As one of the most influential voices of his generation with his own show on comedy central and award winning stand up specials pass twain awards or rather recipients include Richard Pryor will be Goldberg and Tina Fey, I'm Lakshmi Singh. NPR news in Washington.

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The Pelican Brief

One Great Book

10:08 min | 1 year ago

The Pelican Brief

"One great book volume two book to the pelican, brief. Hey, readers. I'm Amoco and you're listening to one great book, the short foreign podcast from the team behind. What should I read next where each week? I hope one standout selection off my personal bookshelves until you all about it in ten minutes or less. Once upon a time in south Mississippi, a young lawyer witnessed a trial, the trial, inspired him to write a book. It was a good book, but it didn't sell he wrote another book, which nobody wanted to buy because his first book didn't sell, but despite this he was finally able to get it published that book was the firm, and it changed on Grissom's life. Incidentally, it changed my husband's life as well. And I'm so grateful, the firm was the book the maid will fall in love with reading, finally when he was seventeen years old because nobody writes breathless legal thriller light Gresham because of the firm's huge success Grisham was hired to write the pelican brief my favourite Grisham novel and one that's overlooked these days, but I have to tell you about it because it is one great. One great book is brought to you by page one books page one is a book subscription box. They are literary matchmakers who custom pick us election for you with every box. But now they also have a brand new retail store in Evanston, Illinois, so readers at page, one to your India bookstore destination list, page one plans to host but clubs author events and other fun gatherings like the party we had last year when my book I'd rather be reading came out if you are not headed to the Chicago area, you can still get that India bookstore experience with their number one book subscription, tell page one what you typically read, and they will match you with a great book each month and deliver it anywhere in the country. One great book listeners can get fifteen percent off their subscription by going to page one bookstore com and entering the code great book, that's page, the number one books dot com with the code great book. John Grisham says that for his family, the firm changed everything, and it's no wonder the firm went onto sell seven million copies and a key reason, why is because of a chance conversation while he was on early book tour for the firm a publishing. Exac mentioned offhandedly to Grisham that, you know, the big guys come out every year. He meant Tom Clancy. Stephen King, Michael Crichton. They all right. A book every year. Grisham says he heard that message loud, and clear he was starting to, like this writing life, and he wanted to keep at it. He was halfway through the pelican brief at the time. But he says after that conversation, he went home locked himself away for sixty days and finish the thing because new year was coming and he needed a new book, the action in this book begins with headline news, a tragedy. That's also a mystery to supreme court justices are assassinated on the same night. It's clearly not a coincidence. These crimes were purposeful. But what purpose whose purpose and why these two justices no one can figure it out Rosenberg is old eccentric liberal. He's ninety one he's wanted to retire for fifteen years. And the only thing he's been waiting for is a democrat in the White House Jensen is moderate with an occasional leftward impulse who was nominated by a Republican, they don't typically vote together. Meanwhile in New Orleans, Darby Shaw, is a two lane law student number two in her class and within striking distance of number one, the kind of girl that every boy fell in love with, at least twice in high school, and maybe at least once in law school early one October morning. She afflicts on the news and the French quarter aghast at what she sees. She shakes her law. Professor boyfriend that is secret law. Professor boyfriend awake to tell him his hero Justice Rosenberg has been murdered. But why Rosenberg and Jensen together, they wonder as they watched the news. Why not McDowell or? Young both of whom are consistently more liberal than Jensen. It doesn't make sense. Darby is just a law student, but her instincts are solid even that first morning and as a reader, you're desperate to listen in as she shares her theory, she knows why the big picture version, if not the details someone or some group wants a different court when with an absolute conservative majority. The election is next year. A democrat could be elected president. Why take a chance kill them now a year before the election? Darby says makes perfect sense. If one was so inclined. Darby has a curious mind so pretty soon, she's blowing off our classes searching for a suspect somewhere out there. There's a case or an issue on its way to the supreme court and someone wants a different court Darby sets out to find it at the end of five days of digging. She writes, a brief a mere thirteen pages that will change perhaps ruin multiple lives. It details a seven-year-old lawsuit in Louisiana still in the lower courts about an oil company that wants to drill. But if they do, they're certain harm the state's endangered Brown pelican, there are billions at stake and Darby posits that Rosenberg and Jensen removed from the court big oil will win. Darby writes the brief then decides her theory is way too far fetched and trashes it she doesn't want anybody to see it, but her boyfriend fishes it out of the trash Gan finds it intriguing especially because the brief shines a spotlight on someone the president knows and sends it to his old law school, buddy now, special director to the FBI in DC. And that is when all hell breaks loose the next thing she knows Darby, witnesses a murder in the French quarter, it's clear as day this killing was intended for her because of the pelican brief and she runs for her life in this cat, and mouse game Darby's, the mouse and the cat is a ruthless powerful and well-financed. Whoever these guys are they've already killed two justices to civilians and they have billions of dollars, they're happy to use to take her out next Darby would very much like to see her twenty fifth birthday so she tries to disappear. But she also wants to nail the bad guys. She can't nab, the criminals herself. And she can't get the feds to believe her. So she does the only thing she can think of something that blew my mind. When I, I read this book in nineteen Ninety-three Darby calls up gray Grantham in investigative journalist with the Washington Post and promises him the story of a lifetime, if he can help her prove her case, the rest of the book focuses on their quest to nab, the bad guys through good journalists. Mm-hmm. And is a reader, you will be rooting hard for good to triumph, even though you can see. It's a longshot. I've yet to see a critical best of John Grisham list, that names, his third book as his best, that's usually goes to a time to kill or the partner or the clients all those titles. Remind me of the hilarious BJ Novak story, the something in which John Grisham wakes up to discover his new novel has been published with his placeholder title, thus something instead of a real one, you have to find it and read it, but the pelican brief is my favorite and now is a great time to dive in, because it has all the makings of a juicy summer read. It's a heck of a page Turner, a political thriller turned blockbuster action movie. It's not a new book, but stories about seeking Justice in the face of political corruption and cover ups will never get old in sort. If you like the sound of a political thriller set in the atmospheric locations of New Orleans, and DC, featuring not just men in navy suits, but a whip smart hair when trying to save her skin by breaking the. Investigative story of a lifetime and a story in which Justice is served, not by men, gilding guns. But my reporters writing words for the masses to read the pelican brief may be the next great book your looking for. Readers. Visit modern MRs Darcy dot com slash one. Great book to learn more about the pelican, brief and all of the great books in this volume while you're there, you can sign up for our weekly newsletter. That covers all things books, reading and books and reading podcasts. Thanks again, to our sponsor page one books. The book subscription box company, and now book store in Evanston, Illinois. Find them online or go, visit next time you are in the Chicago land area. If one book a week isn't enough for you. Sign up to become a patron of the show. Both are paperback and hardback supporters. Get a bonus episode to go with each episode of one. Great book. These bonus episodes are books that haven't been released yet. 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The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

The BBQ Central Show

19:30 min | 1 year ago

The Best Moments of The BBQ Central Show in 10 Minutes or Less

"This is the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less ever wish you could listen to your favorite interview or segments. Do you enjoy doing older shows for the first time in years but my parents moments of the barbecue the accused central show in ten minutes or less. He's just would you need. Thanks for listening and enjoy the show greetings everyone welcome to this addition to the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes or less. Today's show is as a double header both for May twenty two thousand thirteen both segments Brad Orson. The head shed head is in visiting with Gregg. They're just coming off the weekend. FIRES ALL HOG win at Memphis may at this time and they're gonNA talk a little bit of shed so let's get right to it. Here is Greg and the head shed had Brad Orson for May white thirteen all right helping me closer show show out tonight a guy whom I was introduced to the Kingsford Invitational Championship at the end of last year a successful barbecue restaurants who are seller of succulent sauces and by the way brings energy like you've never seen before. Let's go ahead and race over to the hotline outline and welcomed the Ted Chedda head first time to read orphan joining me here a brand. How are you yeah I'm doing that? It is like a too long to finally get you on the show man I appreciate yeah you're right. Hey a world championships induced. Thanks for people hey man. Put you on the map. No doubt about it so a big weekend to get your take on. We'll do that here in just a second bread but for the folks maybe not familiar with the shed and in that whole deal. Can you give us a little bit about you and how you got involved with the business yeah. I'm the founder of the shed where a little barbecue and blues joined down in South Mississippi <hes> been around about twelve years competing impeding for around porn and it's a family food drinker my my mom and dad a little sister and brother and we're all on the payroll so it's a family family event every day. Read Orson joining is here on the show <hes> the website by the way the shed B._B._Q.. Dot Com if you want to check it out here while we're talking you know when the business started brad did you guys have aspirations of getting into contests or is that something that kind of evolve over time we were opening about tw- two years before we got into our first competition and <hes> it was actually a mobile Alabama <hes> K._C._B._S. competition and and <hes> we got really lucky because there's network was there filming and that was the first time that we got a shot at <hes> at television when it comes to barbecue and it was our first barbecued competition and granted we came in sixty seven place overall so we just you know we thought that was cool. You know we're on rally fifty seven off of ten. We said okay fifty seven well the next year we went back that same competition because the best food weeded could come alive and that's what came in if so we caught the bug and we've been doing it ever since for sure no doubt about it and you're not just obviously taking with a you know a K._C._B._S. or your this sanctioning body or that sanctioning bodies like some other teams. You are kind of spreading the competition love around right definitely <hes> you know we've done take C._B._S.. <hes> there's an ICBM a. m. b. n. m. i. a. m <hes> yeah. We've you know we've tried to spread the love C.. Which one you know it is definitely a niche market? You know if if you're really good at K._C._B._S. and N._B._N.. Usually adventure game we just try to spread it out and you know we've been. We've been definitely successful when it comes to the N._B._A.. N Because we get to put on a show it's all we cadet joining me here on the show the shed of the head shed had the shut dot com the shed B._B._Q.. Dot Com is the website will shed do a lot of events as far as competitions concerned over the course of a year you just do a few big ones usually do four to five big ones and this year we're hoping to get I'd say this year <hes> really in twenty fourteen. We're looking to nail down about twenty five of them so we're really going to hit the road. Road for first time on the circuit <hes> in January next year this year we still still got about three that are tentative right now. I'd Kinda like get up to that <hes> Kentucky Q. Festival and <hes> Walker to others. Is it mainly about exposure for the brand when you're out there competing or do you really WanNa kick some ass and take some names out there. Were there to you know we're GONNA hit a number over one kid staff and just like said take some names you know we always have a philosophy like a hundred people in the compensation we tend to ninety nine and that means somebody got there for there you go one person did no doubt about our goal is never come in and <hes> and we also are there to for marketing. We definitely get to our advantage thousand foot all these competitions applications and were there to you know hopefully get in in our barbecue joint WANNA be Brennan Orson joining the here on the show all right so let's go back to this past weekend Brad you. The shed offers a whole hog which has been dominated over the last ask three years in a row by Delta Q.. What was the mood like when you were told that you had made finals in the hawk? How does the camp feel? Oh Man I'm thinking are you kidding and my thought was throughout in there and when I saw yes he does Melissa and I mean the baddest Caroline Barbecue when I saw we were going head to head I said man. This is GonNa be good. What so what kind of hog do you guys use something that I can go run up to johnny the pig farmer or is this something special? It's <hes> it's something special but you can run up them. Calm part. It's a the complex family farms out of Minnesota and if they do rock hog that we cook for these competitions so they say rhetoric is better but <hes> you combine them. You can buy the ribs. <hes> you know every cut of these hogs <hes> you know it's premium premium car so you've gotta pay a little bit more but the family do it right world championship hog they also sponsored <hes> from sweet swallow minds V._X.. Per hand world champion so we seen meet sponsor and also com part families sponsors <hes> boards night out team in the year this year no doubt the year old haw and world the shoulder champions compared Dirac so you make the finals and it's like to competition to a certain degree has started all over again. You Guys Cook in like two hogs for this context. Do you cook more than two. How many you cook we could to and the way that we cook these hogs? <hes> been there in the standing position of the running position pretty much slow. We actually cut there's three onsite judges so week. Cut One side per judge and those are all free of the prettiest then that fourth side that's less is for the finals so but we always put the best. Ask Food Out I so we're dealing with what we got. When it comes up finals bed go ahead Buddy <hes> we've just had you know we've saved food before like Oh? This is better we'll save David finals and then the chef put the best food I one of the biggest things to kind of master as a team I would expect is onsite judging in which doesn't happen in a lot of other sanctioning bodies if you can't speak well you're probably pretty much screwed. You work off of a can speech or some type of dealers this off the top of your head to put in your request for future show. Please contact John Solberg word via email and John J. O. N. at the B._B._Q.. Central Show DOT com. Hey guys sorry so it's not like you don't hear that five thousand times a day forget. I said that we get into the second second today. Following the big barbecue central show on social media it is much appreciated and easy to do it is at B._B._Q.. Central show on instagram twitter and slash B._B._Q.. Central Show on facebook. We give the big shop. I'll very much appreciated. Let's jump into the second segment now with bragging Brad Orson for me in two thousand thirteen. You're probably pretty much screwed. You work off of a can speech or some type of a dealer. Is this off the top of your head. It's you know you got fifteen minutes to make these judges. Believe what you believe about your product and <hes> yeah you definitely gotTa have somebody that they can let it roll. You know because you WanNa make them laugh. You WanNa make them cry. You WanNa you want them to leave like they're a family member and they believe that is the best privacy they've ever had roughly. Take Sake say take take some energy but I always go into it. We don't have like you can't beach or anything like that. I go into it and I try to read the judge and see you know it's raining outside or if it's money or if it's too hot you know we really try to find out whether from trying to connect with them as much as we can read Orson joining me here on the show the shed B._B._Q.. Dot Com the website. If you want to check it out bread the shadow seen some time I'm on T._v.. Over the years <hes> in competition shows and the like this having that experience under your belt having to do the retakes and having the camera in your face and producers as you all kinds of stupid questions and meet deadlines give you an advantage when the pressure is on for the final round Audubon say judging at something like a Memphis yeah definitely in we always say we're when we're about to get a box to <hes> you know man. We work on this and it just means that we're you know we're we're presenting our food and our team in our present persona as if we're going to be on T._v.. Every time and we're not every time but that's the reason why we've gotten lucky. 'cause we present ourselves as if hey if there's a camera guys hey over here we're supposed to be on. We've got really luck but we also grew up. I mean my mom was a perfect Latham so we grew up on sort of stage so you're ready for that bright light when it comes to shine exactly we never really think we off but when you get lucky and things just happen and you got your Mojo working. <hes> you know you gotta be there to win so we always show up when the category winners are announced. Do you think you had a real shot at getting through or is it hard to think like that. When given the success of Zeus had over the past three years in a row I knew how to shot at it because our hog was Oh lush ously tender and she's the imperfect hurt fit in this just beautiful color? I knew that shot I took when we had all four judges sitting there and we had the table decorated and we always prevent on a huge cutting board <hes> I took the whole shoulder off of two hundred pound comfort do rock hog. The holy shoulder just came right apart laid it on the table and I promise you there was I mean to courts of juice at just poured out of the shoulder. Even the judges literally were like Oh my goodness it <hes> it was surprising and it was it was awesome so yeah I I knew I knew I had a shot and I knew it was the year it was going to be this one. Is that a hog that is like you know once in a generation or is that something that you think you could replicate you know every couple months we actually <hes> this whole hog that we got the two that we had some this they <hes> hundred seven towns and one hundred four so I think that's really are sweet spot in cooking over two hundred and going like to a five to ten but I'm really liking this one ninety two two hundred range <hes> so I know I can duplicate <hes> the N. as in the hog but the cooking process and whether the air is dry wet or if it's raining or what the temperature is outside. I could never never <hes> you know. Never guess what that's going to do so it's awfully different. It's always kind of crap shoot but. Doc did that hog and <hes> we know always saying we don't know how many years drink but we'll figure that outlander no doubt about Brad Orson joining me here on the show Mark Lambert from sweet Sueno mine ends up winning the whole thing being the tip the cap at that point or something that you can physically go back to in the agenda and the cooking process and say we might have left a little something on the table there from winning it. What do you think <hes> not WANNA mine line? He's always been one of my barbecue mentors and you know he's he's the bad ass I mean he wanted in two thousand nine and think about that shoulder category though it was sweet so on Mine Yeah Chris Lilley hand <hes> rebel rose to review. All those guys ever had one like nothing world championships so that category was a monster category boy. You got the Delta Q.. I mean do that was going to be builder. Take I fell my dog was the but yeah you have. I mean he's on it. He took it we he won for our category and <hes> and also we have the same meet sponsor so it works really well for both of us yeah no doubt about it <hes> as far as the overall sense <hes>. Do you know where you guys finished out. I don't I haven't seen them yet. <hes> I just saw the preliminary where we came in. I think we took third overall. I think it was actually a RIB team that second overall or so I meanwhile I know we've lost. We lost a world champ. We lost a sweet swath of mine by three tenths of a point that close yeah three tenths of a point and big Bob Gibson are Chris Lilley lost sweet swatter mind by four point. It's only grow only like six months not even six months into this competition season and there's a number of competitions have literally come to tents hundreds thousands of appoint separating grand championship in second place. It's <hes> it's pretty spectacular. It is it's awesome. I mean I'm rating. You know I'm waiting on the Olympics. Come up on waiting to be in there because I mean I mean I got a bunch of stupid sports and you know what Barbecue is not the sport so I think we're in two. We need to call Greg. You GotTa know somebody man you know me. I know top men in the industry and I'm going to be taking it to task starting tomorrow Arrow at Eight A._M.. Look how yeah so you know whether it's second weather third place overall. I mean it's this out of however many teams that you're finishing ahead of will you as a businessman at the shed all your different locations. Will you see a spike in receipts seats at the stores after finish like this or do those two worlds not really meet up in any sense they definitely will because our customers that are on our facebook twitter feed that and they go oh. I've been telling people that for years so it we always see a good spike in <hes> he had an amazing amount. I mean like twenty thousand hits on our website on Saturday after it was announced. <hes> you know just it's it's barbecue. It's hot right now. People are paying attention to what we've got going on and and it's great when I go to these competitions I see all these people filing and take time to their family home and that's why I it's really really refreshing to be part of this barbecue world right now Brad Orson joining me here on the show. He is the ahead shed head of the shed shed B._B._Q.. Dot Com is the website and they won the whole hog category this past weekend at Memphis and may break congratulations on the finish. Thanks so much for coming on tonight to talk about really appreciate it. You gotTa Keep Terrell. You got got it going to talk to him to no doubt about it. That's brand or from the head shed. There's Brad Greg He'd been at role in from eight twenty two thousand thirteen. If you'd like to hear this complete show there is a lot other great guests on May twenty two thousand thirteen head on over to the B._B._Q.. Central Show Dot com there will be a link in the best moments show notes. Take you to the complete episode while you're there. I know I asked you every week because it is important. Please please subscribe to the barbecue simple shelby a podcast. You will never miss an episode of this show or they're really big barbecue show again until next week on the best moments of the Barbecue Central Show in ten minutes less I am.

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A Picky Lover (ep 54.)

Fantasy Theatre

35:18 min | 1 year ago

A Picky Lover (ep 54.)

"Welcome welcome to fantasy theater. I'm your host Joe Bell. I'm still here. I'm happy to be here happy to be back on the food's gone feels like and with me unlimited endurance he does probably he might do eighteen podcasts at this point. I don't know he's always on podcast. A few underground pods don't really put out there a lot of hobbies. A lot of interest need someone to talk about them yeah. I'm glad you're here to Joe Bell. What a week. It's been a lot of stuff fab stuff avid football. I watched I watch awesome football. No Yeah you did. You did semi text me about football but I just seen it on twitter just reacting to something no no. That's why a little What did you see Labus. Saints Texans go and I saw a little bit of another game two on Sunday. It's actually put up yeah because win. went to get some Mexican food at the bar and just watched it. No it was it. was you guys yeah we will. CBS Baby. Maybe we destroy them zero bell. I wasn't seeing that when I watched. I guess things I saw things. Change took absurd outer but this this isn't a football partner with your real friends by the way we need a we need like a semi colon name for this one like fantasy theater the Joe Bell Experience. They go featuring Joe Bell. Yeah Yeah Fancy Fancy theater unplugged unplugged no theater. No No. I liked advice. Life coaches like that yeah in life coach just really what we are by our top. Those are subjects were a blueprint for functioning life and a fulfilling life yeah yeah like that. You know you won't hate yourself at the end of the day. That's what we do for people yeah like if you mix are two lives together like went right in the middle. You'd probably be pretty happy and you might be. I don't know there's a lot we don't share. I tell you what I have to really during football season the rest of my life just takes a hit about this before this lose focus. There's only so much you can. I really invest in a really do everything just takes a downturn relationships. Relationships nations ships again other interests health work. My phone goes off all every minute checking them. So what do I do to fix that. Joe Bell that crippling dependence on football as a source of off fulfillment. I mean your problem. Is You problems. Not on Sunday is not now. Sundays Sundays reserved US one day. Your problem is the other days the phone I was researching. Hey Joe put a defense then Dan Right. This is your daily reminder to defend ca barely. I'm barely looking at my defense. That's your problem. That's how you got to that's. That's the stuff you gotta slowdown but you need it. You need to win a title one more hard hard year. Maybe the chip then then we'll be off my shoulder now. Take it as hard must be like just relax. Share the titans of maybe going to be good baby good. They're going to be good and I could just enjoy that. That'll come crashing down. I just wanted to last just wanted to last few. What's the next week we play. The Indianapolis Colts coming into town in Nashville. You WanNa go to tighten scam. I'M GONNA go see him. Pled Saints December twenty second. You're there already got your ticket all right joy it yeah. They have a a lot of fun yeah. I'm definitely going to go see him. Play the Saints Yeah Joe Bell The just the the rest of the day is got to do something with them. I realize that you know last year during in football season. It was my first year football season where I was married well. My wife at the time was in school so she was always doing schoolwork when I was watching like the Monday night and Thursday night Sunday night games this year that you don't have anything else so she said in the living room. She's a forty hour or worker right. She's Times relaxing relaxing time. It's not relaxing watching me. Watch football say the trick. She thought she was going to be a big time fan. I mean she is she does enjoy the game that she gets really into the Titans Games. No I love her and she loves that she's and she definitely supports my football watching habits but there was a moment during that Texan Saints game that you watched or she'd gotten done with bath and she came in and she was like listening to Audio Book Genus Attorney Forces came in and she was like we just on the second floor. He didn't quite take a bath with three quarters. You tried on second quarter the SEGARRA this is the first game tonight sweetie the the week then the game was in London or something no just on the West Coast Way West Coast. The ten started like nine thirty eastern. Yeah yeah well yeah. No one stays up for that not where we live house asleep by halftime job. You told me that you went on a a a word trick. Does that will never work. Trent little bit of a were trip. Did you have to get into it. I get it you work with big secretive company. You do a lot of things in the shadows understand again can't get into it but did you enjoy yourself. What you go down south down Gulfport Gulfport Gulfport Report Mississippi mich- Michigan Shipping. Hey Go yeah had had some good food. Good seafood great lot of fish mixed with some like shrimp on top of it with sauces a lot of different types of that. That's great man I can't. I can't tell what I it was good though also doing gambling down there. I know you begin. No I actually wanted to the night before I came back. I was like you know how many times uh-huh begun here by myself going there. I mean thirty bucks tired after dinner and so Ed's eight thirty third was that also I mean what could in who knows that happens you love. I just I honestly I assume your phone is not with you. If I text you very rarely is like I don't know that's a good thing. Don't try and no one should try and contact contact me. Your best chance is to contact amy and hope it gets back to me. I did that. I did that recently. We had dinner this past weekend. They'll do very pleasant very pleasant. Yeah it was nice. It was Nice I have. They another story about how incompetent I am with manly. Thanks which it's a real winner for us. Yeah you know I locked my door forever head. We have the maintenance guy come out at Dylan. What I did that was fun. Those great maybe focus play the podcast part like this is the best way to learn about the well he saw the Titan stuff in my house and he was a steelers fan apparently as he was on that train but I I recently to my wife's car. You're to get her tires for low. you know when I go to a place like that. I'm just at their mercy. You know if they they could like literally not looking my car. They can just come up and be like I know exactly what you need and be like. It sounds right to me I can't I can't fight back at all. No no yeah. I don't think the axles exactly where you say okay grenades at a double check. I got another that got none of it so whatever they say goes yeah. What are those questions. I thought he was trying to talk me. He was like does she drive on the highway along. Woah no man driving on missing with that question. No only gravel roads or dizzy drive on the highway a lot. I don't know how we right now person. What what is the reason for that question. Everyone drives on the highway all the time. I don't know man now. The only thing is like like okay so it was it like does he like the difference between highway is like interstate in like town. I don't I don't know us. Usually he's like you know you're. GonNa put more wear per mile on a tie on a car and I- tires and brakes and stuff if you're stopping all the time so like like in the city. You know it's harder. Fifty Miles on the city is harder on car fifty miles on highway that may but I don't know why they would have asked in this situation nation but we live in a city. GonNa be gone sitting yeah but I mean you know if you commute to Commute Eldorado everyday eh all my miles are highway miles. Okay all right okay I don't. I don't know man this will. I don't like mechanics a lot Sara. Yes we're main. I get it I get it. You know you craft. I don't know what I'm doing. You probably Ali look down on me that I'm not doing this myself. Stay say just just hold my hand please. This is thing like if you try and do something yourself there like one. That's my job my job so I get paid to do sir you sell the you sell stuff. I fixed cars. I need you to run a social media. I'll contact Spencer. You leave the door knobs which out to me is is better to interface with mechanics when you don't have anything than when you know like just enough really because I went to mechanic like once and I'd ask people work and everyone at the plan I work. They all know about cars L. working all the cards all the time so amy's Carlo issue so that I ask Skim to do this this and this so I'd go the mechanic and he says Hey we need to do this so I'm saying well. Did you check this this and that and the look he gave me is a Scott Thinki- at I thought he was gonNA. Throw my keys Strand Street now. I don't need to check this. I know what it is. Okay all right cool. We're at their mercy man. They got my car. Yeah you know I don't want to hold my car. Hostage knew that for the highway. I got some advice for you. Joe Bill job a few weeks ago. We had a contract negotiations on the air we did we we. We air our dirty laundry so to speak me and you. I don't even remember that time is so so far in the past like a different phase in my life. Well we all right. We've had dinner. Dr Since then pizza together we did we did in one of my one of the people that train across it some eating the pizza and you just knew I was gonNA throw it in the trash I did. I didn't eat anymore tells license more. He completely changed. I said straighter. I'm taking my friends runs out for pizza. They wanted to come here. He's fat. He's you know they don't cross fit right but US I order salad. They already took it back. I think it's completely change ten. Stop Flexing your shoulders a little bit wrong with this guy. It was really weird when knocked out twenty pushups atop the pizza there. Oh yeah as I called for but anyway I thought you know. I don't know if you've been fallen day. Antonio Brown's Saga. I saw some stuff I saw highlight as well highlight would go to highlight. I one thing you're skimming through the news and it's there yeah what's that called does not a highlight. I know that the headline am I. GonNa get involved well. I'm not talking about that. That's what Tom Brady said too when they asked him about it he he said what doesn't involve doesn't involve me yeah next question. Alabel Chicken Brady's press conference. I really do really do one for border was like do you have anything to say about the Antonio Brown situation and Brady said no and then someone had a follow up Antonio Brown question Jason and Brady said. Did you not hear the I. I want that one day one day. I just WANNA be in a job where I get to talk to the media. please. Please let me ask me questions I'd be I'd be the most fun sports interview ever coming up there the podium that'd be a t shirt my bucket no way no way no way trying to relax there. What do they do that. They just like it just handing leverage over to the media people. I want to press you. You're in control fancy clothes for other people every time they're enough for. You don't pretend like they're comfortable. DOPER did stop it. Stop Anyway. I was GONNA say before this last Antonio Brown incident then we won't bring that up. Let's say you should take took it. A page out of his book should have just showed up crazy stuff to get out of fantasy there. I was in that for a long time. I do like ten episodes of just complete. You should have brought a big package eminem that just as we're recording. You're throwing ah face just one after the other real slow. Let me go one day. They complained about the Mike more in this thing. I try complained a lot about my seeing situation. That wasn't really the thing you gotta go after the engineer yeah you gotta go to the House. were at like Jo built. I'm not come back. That's done Joe Bell. I feel like we don't have anything to say. It's like that. I don't know what's going on. What happened this week. We didn't even segments while I was gone. Yeah quinto in episodes moly Masic Kamali GonNa go to Colorado and a wedding so many times. You should actually listen to that episode. Joe Bill May Dallas here. You may enjoy it I was here for I heard the whole thing. You should relieve your the whole think not just the you know. Maybe there's a director's cut. Cut Hiding out there somewhere. We'll get one day. Maybe that's what we should do for this show. This director's cuts director Scott of old stuff. You WanNA get edgier. Yes get edgier nuts. Tonight might get edge you. Let's change our names and then get edgier yet. Caleb can change voice is a little bit. I'll be honest with you. You know we're doing football podcast. You weren't part of it this week this past week but the our engineer we're used a different different song than the fancy theater song and I was like you know what doesn't sound right to me. I think the football show. Oh needs that song. Oh my tea not agree. No don't this show should keep that one. Now I mean I don't know about face. Theatre was born in the fantasy football world that saugus synonymous with Berry says and fetes. Let's Bet Caleb should make the decision. He knows the music the most he knows the themes he does okay. We'll let it may be the theme music for this this show. I don't know it'd have random noises something bats. I Dunno like throw in Fort Down. Sink yeah something like that but with rhythm we could record me throwing the EMINEM's at your head that noise. That'd be the base beat. Redo the Fort Stuff. I mean we come up with jingle every like two weeks. Yeah no you you do so many jingles main to commend you on that. Thank so you just pull them off the top of your head. Why don't we have an award show. Let's suit awards. Oh my gosh yes next week next facet here award so to come up with awards. We have to do five hours okay. I've awards we can do that. We'll prepare yeah next week will be better one of my friends. unfortunately met my other friend. The clemson game the only friend that listens to the show. Oh yeah and so now there's another friend who knows about it and he takes me yeah a couple of days and Melissa. My first ups owed haven't heard word. He's you should ask him. Let's go budget Joe. You should tell your friends about fancy theater. Come on man no come on man. No my life is segmented. I've said this before four. I have a I have a partner or your character. I have a brain portion as committed to Clemson people. I've got the rest of the people I've got my Eldorado work. People got amy. I've got my dogs and then I have this rusting strangers and I don't want any of that that stuff mixing if I can because I'm different and all of them. Okay stay completely. My psyche is split fifty fifty different ways so what part is on this pod the pod part. Oh there's Bod pod part for us. I'm glad you could create another space just for this. I'll tell you what man were steps. We've had a lot worse heavy. We've we've had a bunch worse. I can't even remember maybe that's a good sign. Yeah I mean it always trump better than you think yeah device part talk about the pizza door. What else can we do. Oh I do have if you see this. Show is coming together. If you ought to be if you ain't watching what we do in the shadows yeah to be what we do in the shadows. I believe it comes on. FX But I saw the first season on Hulu it is from the world of my one of my favorite comedy movies of all time. It's called what we do in in the shadow. Have you seen it nope you. You've seen it. It's like legit like it might be. My number one comedy. I'm not sure what put up there with the right now those other one with the Vampires Zampa yeah. I've seen it shown me yeah. Oh did. I make you watch okay. Well this good yeah yes fantastic but anyway they made a show like like within that world with other vampires same style. I if you haven't seen the movie I recommend watching the movie first thing getting into the show. I love the humor. It's incredibly funny funny. you know. I haven't found like a show recently. That's like multiple seasons long going season-by-season with certain things so if you got recommendation or anything Joe I'm all ears on shows shows. No not really no sorry. I think my shows from you or their Anna. Yeah man you've said before that you're not interested if I made that. You've made that clear. I watch Amanda Maistre. Yeah Yeah Castle the venue baby now yeah now. That's that that was the one a lot of different types of people can enjoy very well done show. I gotTa make a part of my brain for the anime keyboards they academia but that's so you're talking about this much right now my here academia my hero academia condemning very good anime drag Abbasi. That's what I'm going to smash. Bros evident played Banjo Kazoo. I know that's really disappointing. You foot on the floor with happy so happy now. You don't even play them. Well you go to Gulfport and hang out with the elite of the world and Gulfport Yeah I it's like I don't have time for Video Games James. I'm thinking about spending thirty dollars. I The casino. I don't know what booze morphed into. I don't know sometimes when I stop stuff. It's like gone like I still love smash rose. You still want to play it but it's like my routines broken. I was planning it every day. You're cold Turkey gap. I definitely am yeah. I can see that I'm sure you broke up with somebody like that once. It's it's like no. You didn't get the memo I can't you see that I might not connected to you anymore. Like it's just the next day after fourth date. You're like now yeah. I didn't do too much breaking up but maybe in the different life yeah now. I didn't get too much experience with the knee breaking up with people thing because you're you're picky you bet yeah. I've I've dated a lot of people joe. Bell picky lover. This is such a good episode Sir so good see this is what I've always strived for on the show and we've talked about it. In previous episodes fancy real fancy theater heads will know when we were trying tried to approach zero listeners right and it was our post postseason post postseason. That's an award postseason was getting an award for sure lawnmower and more show probably Mo- the Mowing Messiah should've named it I remember. He told me that the fact that I'm another episode what was the name of it so I can go back and listen to it. was something bad. I don't know oh no because I was the only ones I've had to write the title of and it was just like Spencer Zahn show it was bad. I'm gonNA though there's there's another local podcast. 'cause I half the show we were talking about this. Monroe podcast and then we went into mowing Masai of too many words. There's there's another local podcast to me words. You need something. That's GONNA fit in their in their little dashboard when they pulled up in their car. That's what you need. It's what I do. I like to consolidate the whole idea theme of the episode and a two or three words and I do a good job at McGraw. I didn't say I didn't have I just said another local podcasts. It didn't say that there's no problem too many. Was There Pronoun an article of right and are there you know everything over there like clearly by highway you meant death and are glad he has been doing a Lotta signs. Yeah this episode I liked when he was playing video. Games have listening to us. Isn't that called an arbiter of art yeah wrong. No you try to play mechanic this guy. I don't know say anything bobble later busted. How much does it cost sir. I can only do that with you and spelling spelling so rated. Nothing's more of Readiness Belen except for life itself. We're not that precious. I got news for you. We're not how how can you possibly think you're that important yeah seriously someone die. We all go. Let's go happen to everyone but me but me I'm immortal. We've also talked about that. Yeah you're more immortality plans immortality yeah see I come back every so often. You know that line you either die a hero. You live long enough to see yourself become a villain. I've been Villanova but then I just leave when I come back like one hundred years later going to be the hero again. I've tried out many different gimmicks many different names. The identity I'm going by right now for my Superhero is Jack Free Bird Classic. Go with a classic but I can z. like you never been able to pick a good name. I'd love being the reason you have to keep coming back at that some loser gimmicks. I remember Slap Lab Jack. Sammy is power was he. Just is power was he just produce syrup or flannel and user both good things they are good things but but he never knew which one was coming so sometimes you just get flannel shirts all over your Flap Jacks Hari. I can't control it but I had the power to change change it but I was like no. I got stick to the Gimmick right yeah. You got to live that life. You Learn Nass Three Life Times before sure you keep switching from your Gimme. No one even knows what you do. Another thing I've learned is when I make a mistake because I'm immortal. It's just always other people's problems. The League a mistake doc is their fault. Basically I'm immortal. There is no quits from me. I just leave the humans with their with their mess. Mike I may have accidentally made. This thing called black play. I'm taking off. I'm GONNA be going to the seventeen hundreds some uh some ships to sail be. I'm sure you'll you'll figure it out. They'll anybody touching lou by touching Mike. You'll be fine. You'll be fine. I got the pancake story worst episode ever. I gotta go. I gotTa thus pancakes what are called Surp- Foster pancakes and Atas Foster Bananas Foster. here is my journey to. Eat Bananas Foster pancakes today. Please share start off. I'm driving down the road and image POPs in my head is the cracker barrel Syrup Syrup that they warm up. It just popped in my head and I can't get it out like I didn't even I couldn't even see the road. Wow so you know I'm like looking for cracker barrel. I find one fifteen minutes out of the way but I can't get the image out of my head so my I'll just do it. You gotta go I go to the cracker barrel and they have all of their equipment in the parking lot and I don't know what happened. There's a lady in the in the driveway and I was driving up and she she was like standing up and I I could tell that she was going to tell me like hey reclosed. All of our stuff is in the parking lot and there's no cars here so I just whipped around was very upset set and then so I was like okay well. I'll go the place that was twenty minutes out of the way I go there. Same thing Greco brought a business. This isn't that cracker. Barrel is another place no but the same. They took all their stuff out of place. Maybe this whole city had his asbestos will you were in South Mississippi Yeah. There's no maybe some plague by big slap slap Jake Samuels around no subjects Emme was there. You could have got through yeah but then I finally ended up at a nice diner. I got some pancakes. I gotTa Bananas Fosters. I I would watch the recording of you eating alone in a booth I do. It is probably funny. I have a lot of weird like ah motions and then when the waitress comes like they always sneak up on me and I kinda like normally I can look at other people and I see see their their expressions are changing and I know I'm about to be surprised by the waitress so I can prepare but when I'm by myself. I don't have that yeah so they just come up boy. Oh boy we are a barrel of laughs. Today this is this is slice of wife podcast yeah not every day is funny. It's not sorry it's not why do our listeners expect anything different like we're just trying to be honest with ourselves and try and give you something so. I'm glad huge glad you're here. We're not we don't have to perform for you. What would you have named last week's episode episode. I don't remember what last week was about Oh. Scientology was spencer my mother too long. That would have been so much content. I should have broke up the content from last week. We should go to the center yeah. Let's find one. I don't think it's allowed in Louisiana immediately. Every babs church around would be like. We gotta start a petition again in our turf. We should watch registered stones as well. I do watch that great things well. Let's put this all horse out of her misery when he say I think we got another ten minutes. Okay you know we need to be they are the war show got me into this. We need to go find good segments of other episodes and then we need to continue them them on this episode so he play it and then moving onto a different topic. 'cause you know before meat on the bone before are we had so much guitar content but we had get through the encyclopedia. Britannica segment we did. We had advice advice columns. We had story our weekend house our week. We had other stuff several wires talk about so we'd have time to really deep dive says what I WanNa do I wanNA take a one minute clip and then deep dive it for whole episode. Can you work on that. Let me know when it's ready. calebs going to get the clips and he'll pick a random clip and then we'll do it. We're doing the award show yeah. It's good you gotta come with awards that means. You're going to have to like listen. Listen to other episodes but I'm I'm the one getting word. We need like to get a committee of listeners. Make awards done when you get to all your friends those Guys Cup guys guys. Sir My friends Louis. Hey guys hey awards. What do you think what do you think should we. In response response. Well look forward to next screw. We continue to screw most AWW uh-huh.

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Special Episode: A community grief

The World and Everything In It

36:16 min | 4 months ago

Special Episode: A community grief

"Welcome to a special edition of the world and everything in it the last week of May on our daily program, we aired a four part serial story about a community's grief. It goes back to memorial day twenty seventeen, when a lone gunman snuffed out the lives of eight people in Rural Lincoln County, Mississippi it left area residents reeling world correspondent, Kim Henderson tells their story. Entre Sable for the Clarion Ledger and I'm out here in front of Perry County Sheriff's department where April is a career journalist with a resume spanning three decades. In two thousand seventeen, she was working as a crime reporter for Mississippi's top newspaper when she covered the state's largest mass shooting. Her twitter profile still shows photos of the victims. I think it's a mixture of. That being one of the biggest things that's happened in my life. but also because I. don't want them to ever be forgotten now. I've got you know Steph at the House. That will always remind me of of those days. Surrounding. Her twitter page also includes a quote from Martin, Luther. Yeah it's piece of possible truth at all costs I. think as a reporter That's something that we've lost, and there are people that are involved in ways that maybe they didn't intend, but it was. You know lax on their part. And then you know you've got the truth of this. which is there eight lives that were cut short? The didn't need to be. So what did happen that Memorial Day weekend? Here's what we know. The shootings took place at three different homes over a span of about six hours, and most of the victims were related to the killer by blood or by marriage. It all started when thirty five year old korry gobble went to his in laws home, whereas estranged wife, Sheena was staying. When he said he wanted to take their two children home with him. Trouble ensued. Someone called the sheriff's department. After a deputy arrived, there was some discussion then gobble pulled out a gun. He shot at least thirty two rounds, killing his mother-in-law, his wife, sister and aunt and the deputy. About three hours later, crime reporter able got a call from one of her sources. Sorry I answered the phone and he said. I just need to make sure you know. We've got a deputy dead and possibly three others. I said wait, what and he said. We've got a deputy down. And you know. And and you might WanNa. Get down here. So able jumped in her car and left the capital Metro area, headed south, and I was going one hundred and five miles an hour, and I had troopers pass in May not looking at me and I knew that was something real. Meanwhile, Godbolt was on his way to the home of his cousin Sean Blackwell. Sean is a preacher and he and his wife Tiffany spent time with the God bolts. They encourage the struggling couple to come to Sunday school and Church services. Accord godbolt resented tiffany black holes friendship with his wife. So we got to their house, but found out Sean and Tiffany weren't there. They gone to comfort Sheena gobbles wife at the crime scene. The house was an empty though Sean. Tiffany son and nephew were there along with some other children where he kills Jordan Blackwell who shielding his fifteen year old cousin from the bullets and Kills Austin Edwards. Who's eleven years old, next gobbled headed to the home of feral and Sheila Barrage, his wife's cousin feral returns fire, and is the only wound that Corey had from that night but he is out going, and then corey goes to the bathroom where he executes Sheila Barrage. That's eight shooting victims. All of them dead. Gobbled targeted people he believed were interfering in his marriage. In the middle of his rampage, he got on facebook and sent a message to Tiffany Blackwell now. She's cousin's wife. The preacher's wife, the one who's just lost a son. Basically Godbolt told her you've messed with my family. Now I've missed with yours. What unfolded just a few steps from here? Last night is almost too much to bear twenty seventeen went on record as the deadliest year of mass shootings in US history. It's one gunman mowed down hundreds at an outdoor music festival in Las. Vegas Killing Fifty Eight, and when another madman massacre twenty-six inside a Texas church, taking place at the while the motives for the Las Vegas shooting are still a mystery. The November attack at first Baptist Sutherland. Springs shared a connection with the one that happened five months earlier in Mississippi. In both cases, the shooters had a history of domestic violence. A recent study published in criminology and public policy indicates that many mass shootings have domestic violence thread running through them. In the Sutherland Springs case. The shooter had sent threatening texts to his laws. Who sometimes attended services at the Church? In Mississippi Corey gobbled have been convicted of assault in at least two of his wife's family members. If you look into, God bolts past there were some domestic violence. There are some situations where you know. The police were called, and maybe the charges or dropped, or maybe there weren't charges pressed. I happen to know that a few weeks before this happened. Sheena was driving and he was following her, and she called the police department as in other words, there were warning signs. Lots of paperwork. It's one of the tragedies of these crimes to me the whole thing. Could have been avoided. If there would have been in place is. You know maybe some other action taken. Lincoln County law enforcement officers were familiar with Corey gobbled. They also journalists Tarez able. She cut her teeth. There's a young reporter. And she was a friend of the slain deputy, so when she arrived at the crime scenes, officers led her move in close. But even she wasn't expecting what happened at her last stop and as I'm pulling up to three twelve East Lincoln I see him on his knees and getting onto the ground. This godbolt four deputies around him. One of them has just tossed his go into the side. And he's not handcuffed yet I get among was the only media on the scene and all she had was her cell phone. So she walked the parameter, holding it down low, trying to get the lighting right I see corey kind of turned his head, and as soon as he sees me, he starts saying. Audio here is courtesy of April and the Clarion Ledger one not. Just. Others Law. Abel's phone was low on storage, so she was deleting pictures and APPs. As she went, she ended up with a string of videos and a full confession. Right after someone has committed a murder, there is energy. There's an evil energy that rolls off them and I wasn't afraid to face him, but. There was this feeling of like. Like, it's in your chest. You just feel so little and so helpless and so unable to. Make sense of what's going on. and. What was coming off, Godbolt as he talked to me in my perception. WAS JUST A. Feeling I'd never felt before in talking to someone. Accused of murder. And it was probably because of the proximity to. The homicides themselves. That weekend as news of the shootings made it across the nation, I sent an email to my editor Marvin Olesky. Let Him, know I, live near where it happened. He wrote me back with a question that's rumbled around in my head ever since how to such a small community deal with so much death. Of College and I would like to invite you beautiful city. Lincoln County Mississippi is Rustic, rambling with cattle auctions, every Tuesday and a steady stream of eighteen wheelers, pulling out from the Walmart Distribution Center. Public Schools get lots of support? There's a community newspaper. The county seat Brookhaven has a thriving downtown area. It's just a place that. No matter which out of the tracks you live on or whatever like that? There's a real sense of community. And it's not the place you expected to heaven mass murder. No and I think that's been. That was one of the things that really rocked me at the beginning was How did this happen at home? I think for the people that have lived here and lived here all their lives. It was more that it was more Whoa, you know. How did we not see this coming? How did we not prevent this? How how do we react? Now that it's happened? In the aftermath of the tragedy, expressions of grief and the community ran the spectrum. Residents covered the slain deputies patrol car with flowers. Funeral goers filled and spilled out of the School Gymnasium. Pastor led prayer and a driveway near one of the crime scenes in Jesus great name. The youngest of the victims was Austin. Edwards eleven years old. Just days before the shootings he'd gone running with Corey Godbolt, a family, friend and relative by Marriage Austin was excited Corey taught him how to manage his breathing while they jog through the neighborhood down the street from the boys, Church. A prosecutor would later point out the irony in court. who was the one who took Austin's breath away forever? Austen's mother Shayla Edwards remembers what it was like to shop for a suit to bury him in. It hit me at that moment that this was the last. Time I'd be able to shop for my son. His favorite color is blue so I want him to have a something blue. I started crying and I couldn't stop crying and woman in the store walked up to shelagh she'd seen this story on the news, and she stopped in the middle of what she was doing. And she prayed for me for Apl the push to tell victims stories drove her and there was. You know things that that stick with you like in in? In the Blackwell's home when I walked into interview, them You know just a couple of days after it happens. And all I could think was. How do you want? How do you go on, you know? Accusations swirled about the God bolts, domestic issues and how authorities had handled them. Some in the community seemed set on revenge within weeks gobbles home burned to the ground. But one potential source of conflict did not take root racial division. Godbolt is black and seven of his victims were black. The slain deputy was white, and this is twenty seventeen, the wounds of Ferguson and police deaths in Dallas and baton rouge were still raw. People wanted to make a big deal out of a look. A black man who shot a bunch of people in the cops didn't kill him. You know things like that. April says officers later told her they were glad. She witnessed gobbles capture. They didn't do anything on toward. During the whole time I didn't see one of them. Lay a hand on him. Wrong I didn't see one of them. Even speak to him harshly. This was a county named for Abraham Lincoln by a reconstruction legislature. A county where in nineteen fifty five someone shot and killed a black voting activists in broad daylight on the courthouse lawn. But, that was decades ago and things have changed through her reporting. April told the world about a community grief. One of the most beautiful things to me about this was watching how this community came together around these families, and it did not matter who was black or white. That was all one family Lincoln County was a family. There was a lot that was changed by the trauma in the sadness, but I think that love that was shown. amongst the people that that lost the most really inspire the rest of the community to love one another better also. Meanwhile, the tragedy took a toll on the families of the victims. Children were afraid to be alone. Parents were unable to work. Students dropped out of college. A mother moved away to escape the memories. Shayla Edwards Sister Tiffany Blackwell also lost a son in the shootings eighteen year old Jordan a football standout who died shielding his cousin from bullets. To Jordan Blackwell. Tonight Jordan his parents and his family with his parents tiffany black will present the game the coach Tommy often. Sometimes I get up and can get dress and I'm fine and the the next moment on my way to work out here a Song Garcia. Something that reminds me of Jordan and ousted in just cried. Waste of you know the way to work in. The murders happened in May. By that August preachers kids Shayla and Tiffany were ready to do something positive with their grief. With the help of a friend, they decided on a prayer group. They named United in Christ against violence, so we meet across the railroad track. Across from the name of that the Chamber of Commerce and we just sit out there and we pray we pray for the children in the community, the teachers, the churches, the pastors, the very first time that we had it. It was so packed full of people from the sheriff's departments. Different police officers you name it. People came in droves in the. The community to pray together, so we we? We would pray for thirty minutes, and after the prayer we close out by the time the group got going. The TV cameras that converged on Lincoln County after the murders were long gone, they missed those meetings. They missed the push to name a stretch of highway in memory of William Durr. The deputy who died. They missed Sean Blackwell's facebook. Live video the one of him in the parking lot praying before going into God bolts preliminary hearing. Now. They didn't get to watch what was coming to the surface, but April did. God was bringing beauty from ashes like you couldn't have picked. A more beautiful family for this to happen to you. I mean we're all human. But. It's like you see that smile on Tiffany. Salas faces. And you would never know the pain that they carry. That might be the case, but tiffany Shayla and their families would soon need all the support. They could get to seek justice. The morning jury selection began in the capital murder trial of Corey, Godbolt, the sky. Thundered Rain fell in sheets. It was like two and a half. Years of tears bottled up coming down all at once. The families of God bolts eight victims had waited a long time for Justice Willie. Corey God volts alleged rampage and adhere. Attorneys took five days to settle on jurors. Because of pretrial publicity. All this was done in North Mississippi. The trial took place in accounting in the south part of the state, and since jurors were sequestered, every moment counted opening arguments started on a Saturday court convened on a Sunday locals could not recall any other time that it happened. Daisy more attended the trial. She knew Koi Godbolt hung out at her grandmother's house, but that was before he murdered her nephew since. The rollercoaster. This is a family member. Did someone we grew up? With Dan on the other side of it is like. Who is? Like how could you do those things? Reporter Tarez, able said the families of victims and witnesses like herself couldn't wait to get the trial behind them I think there was this big anticipation of getting the trial over with, but you didn't realize what the trial was gonNA. GonNa mean as far as what you're. GonNa Learn what you're going to see. Who you're going to see, you know that kind of thing. Able was the first to take the stand. Her video of God, Bolts Confession had become primary evidence the. Clarion Ledger even sent a lawyer down to protect her source from being named the one that had called her during the night. Jurors studied the footage of God. Bolton, able as it played on screen at the front of the courtroom. audio. Here is courtesy of April and the Clarion Ledger. Ran Out. Thing, they showed mercy. Dot Com. I. Not, a y'all as not nobody else, ask. For. God. Gobble watched the video to sell ended by a trio of defense attorneys. Instead of prison orange, he got to wear a coat and tied accord each day as well as a distinguished Pero wide framed glasses. Shayla Edwards found it difficult to be near him. When you see sitting in front of you, the man that killed your children, so it's Kinda hard and especially judge David strong warned that it would be an emotional trial and he was right. Those in the courtroom couldn't help but react to the frantic nine one one calls and gruesome details they heard you. Other moments were understated, but equally unforgettable like Sheena, gob bolts reaction to what the defense called a happy family photo of her her husband with their children. Just because it's on, facebook doesn't make it real. She said she suffered for years at her husband's hands. Leaving when he abused her, but Because he swore he'd change. Once, he even choked her and beat her so badly. She required treatment at the hospital. There was testimony of abuse from the gobbled to year old daughter as well. She took the stand just days after an unnerving incident at the trial. During the lunch break gobble somehow managed to beat on the window of a car where his child was seated. Has Health problems, but she made it to the trial anyway. She, she does, and she had experienced trouble of her own with Corey. A year before the shootings, the Lincoln County Justice Court convicted him of simple assault to create fear against murderous May. But May wasn't at the trial because of all of that or maybe in a way she was. Murder Smets Daughter Sheila? Barrage was one of the shooting victims. Dear no recess at the trial. Nee described what it was like to watch her granddaughter weep in the witness stand. Because witness first half with. I was no hippies Liam at all. I mean make you cry on my show and I like it. Do what cry bad. said she can now give her grandchildren a sense of direction. Six months after the tragedy, she did a deep dive into scripture. God became her comfort in knowing who he is. and. How he died for fillers like us, you can't. But love. God! I learned to the pin him more and more each. Lean not to your own understanding. With all way he's a nod, his tail and he will direct. Still. She misses taking rides with her daughter and the meals she cooked. May also mourns the loss of her son-in-law. Another one of the eight victims with my son in law would always told me he was big. So, you know I miss. Buffalo Maria Maria bad. He loved my daughter. May has grieved before, but she says this time has been different. Even. To. It's a hurt that. That only God can bring you back from. You feel like student. They're like he's already done that for me. Like many others hope the trial will bring closure. But after all this time, some in the community were beginning to wonder. Would a conviction be enough to end the bitterness? Miss Porter I'm going to show you. What is has already been put into evidence. As Dean. During the sentencing phase of the trial, the defense highlighted gobbles troubled youth. Jurors heard from godbolt siblings about how they're policeman. Father died in a shooting at their stepmother's hands. At one point an attorney asked gobbled sister to identify a photo. If you look on the screen. They're tiny with. That's a picture of. That's when Godbolt. Sister turned her head and saw the photo I picture of her and her siblings as children. She broke into a slight smile, but started to lose her composure, so she closed her eyes and turned away from it. After clearing her throat, she answered the largest question my mother. Myself Chris Corey and can you. Can't do you need a minute? Jurors also listened to gobbled aunt someone who testified on his behalf, but also sang at a victim's funeral, showing just how much this crime entangled a family tree. Then the courtroom encountered a different kind of witness one who had evangelism on her mind. It was gobbled first grade teacher sprightly Diane, Davis Harris and she didn't hold back. gave me a word for Corey. And the purpose for me being here today can stand up Sir and everyone in the courtroom was kind of shocked that the judge let her stand up. She stood up pointed directly at Godbolt and started talking. It does not matter Corey. Whether you live a welder, you. The most important thing you should note today where you're going to speak. Eternity Object we're getting a little bit out. Then of course, the prosecution objected and she had to sit down, but as she did, she was thanking. God got that out. So shots proceedings ended each day. Officers took gobbled away in a transport vehicle, but on the last night February twenty seventh, he headed somewhere different. Death row at Parchman penitentiary. Now breaking news tonight, four death sentences handed down by Pike. County jury jury. Nervously. Beyond a reasonable doubt. Following exist. Mission for Laura. One as the clerk announced the death penalty four times, people in the courtroom wept, wailed and rejoiced. With church with. Is. Over. We need a wall of media crowded around the family members reporter Tarez. Behind one of the TV, cameras, truth is at the trial when I asked them when they're all standing up there at the end, and I said guess. Where do you go from here and Shelagh step forward and said we live. I Still WanNa, cry thinking about that because I thought. I! Don't have that got on. My faith is very important to me, but I have learned so much from their family from Sean and Tiffany and Shelagh. And and just watching them fight this. With this full faith in God as their protector in their creator and the comforter. And it's like every time they do something. Even though I would say that I have strong faith every time they do something it just me like wow, I aspire. To trust and love God as much as they do. because they. This entire family has. Has Changed me from with. Many of those affected by the shootings looked for the trial to bring closure including April, she says the trial opened up scabs, but also brought some relief you know after the verdict was read and after the. Sentencing was handed down. It felt like somebody three windows open in my heart. It just felt like for a moment. And I don't know how long it'll last. I could breathe again. Tiffany Blackwill says she's glad it's over, but there aren't any winner, so we don't have our boys. In, even his life is over and his family's life. We all have to do with this as we think about. What could we have done different? What could we have saved it? You have all of the woody of S- plan. Through your mind on the night that it happened or even four years ago or five years ago, could we have done differently to be a different outcome, so it always plays your mind. April has questions to. Especially since evidence in court showed Godbolt made meticulous plans with particular targets in mind. This is where domestic violence goes. I think there's a lot left to be told now, that said. A reporter's job is to report what they can verify and. Some of the things that people are digging around about and myself as well are things that are hard to verify. But would that really change anything? I think if there are places that need justice yeah. I. I think if there are not. then. We'll always all have a lot of unanswered questions. Shoe state and she stayed as she. She never did this before call. Brown is related to some of the victims. He lives in the neighborhood where the first four murders happened, and he remembers his sisters call at four that morning she said opened the door. and. Police cars was probably land to how he fitting one. Till to where the incident to happen and this Paul, a quarter mile away and a retired state. Trooper Brown has seen violent crimes, but these shootings shocked him. Last year he rallied community support for a sixty thousand dollar memorial engraved at the top of the stone. Monument is a simple declaration. You never be forgotten. Below that. There's a list of those who died. Own on the left side he'll facing. This is a time capsule in here and we replaced it. We we say fifty years from the date going to open it. They put pitchers. They put news. Articles Obituaries Brown says he hopes the memorial brings healing, especially among family members with ties to both Godbolt and his victims right now is a lot of bitterness and. predestined. Pass Shayla Edwards is praying to you. You know you wanNA forgive and that can be hard for some of us to do, but you know my prayers for his family. His children who are suffering through this. These are good kids, you know. We want to make sure that they are okay to. They've lost grandmothers aunts. Cousins friends. They lost just as well as we did, so we keep them in our prayers, also we even. I pray for him to. The American justice system attempts to set things right with penalties and that's fitting and proper. Christian hearts long for this something more of Biblical justice, the making victims whole again dimension. Murders may gets that. She lost her daughter and son-in-law and God bolts rampage three years ago, but trust in God keeps her hopeful. She believes he is at work, but community as a whole may not. I see a big pitcher. We eels and what he can do, most citizens who hand down death penalties while serving on a jury would rather forget about the whole thing. But in this case, the jurors didn't. They just could not forget. and. That's why three months after the trial concluded, they traveled two hundred miles to mark the third anniversary of the shootings. The community welcome them with open arms. Lots of food retail. The gathered outside around the stone monument in Bogota about two miles from where the crimes began back in two thousand seventeen. Jury, forewoman Nicole. Becker told the crowd that going home after the trial was like entering an alternate universe. Our work was done. And our hearts, a piece of our heart for down here. She also told victims, family members and law enforcement officers. The jurors were astonished by what they saw in court. You all such a calmness in in varying often you up there on. Stand out there and. Help Heltzel knee. And focus on what we needed to focus on the task that we did. Sean Blackwill father a victim Jordan Blackwell acknowledged the difficult role of the jurors. What happened on that night? During the fifteen days, he was in charge of the jurors bailiff. Charles Campbell got to know them pretty well well enough to make some suggestions. We thought it was best for them to come together and pray every day before we left. There they had a big job to do. Jury members Mildred Williams and Anna McDonald said the whole group was in agreement sprayed together like a family, and that's what we became a family. We do not leave there in the morning without prayer. Different one different one took turns with different people crying jurors also acknowledged their dependence on God behind the Mike at the memorial event. So did other speakers like Sean Blanket? Come today just to remember the great. We came to celebrate God. Let us live through this tragedy, and still serve God and love one another a guitar player saying of Heavenly Hope. Soloist who lost two nephews in the shooting testified about our great. How? Xinhua and Tiffany's family join them on stage. Then came the moving finale. Germany Keaton who came up with? The idea of releasing paper lanterns as she watched them rise in the night sky. She smiled and hugged her friendly. This is a this is a sign of hope. And Healing and restoration in this community to close out the evening. Tracy Dir joined in Duet. She's the widow of the deputy who was gobbled first victim. The words were powerful. Thing is. To razz able was at the anniversary event to in front of a camera. She still pumping out. Daily News reports but she admits this story. The story behind Mississippi's largest mass killing changed her life. Through my career I've built up this thing where I was bulletproof and you know I'm there at the scene and I'm not scared. And there's hurricanes and tornadoes and I'm in the middle. But this was the first thing that I couldn't just put in a box. Corey Godbolt is scheduled for execution July fifteenth. But records at the Lincoln County Circuit Clerk's office. Indicating appeal is underway. That likely means another layer of grief for the community to process. One that hovers out there in the future waiting. But one thing is for certain. This mass shooting taught a hard lesson. It showed that domestic abuse is just a matter of private concern. Left unstopped. It can turn into a public nightmare. I don't want them to ever be forgotten. because I mean even I. Refer to it as the core. Godbolt case. But it's not. It's William her. It's Barbara Mitchell Brennan May to Karume. Austin Edwards Jordan Blackwell Sheila and Farrell barrage. Reporting for world I'm Cam Henderson and South Mississippi. A community grief written by Kim Henderson our producer is Paul Butler script editing JC Derek technical assistance by Johnny Franklin a very special. Thank you to journalists terrace able and all of the family members who made time to tell us their stories. If you have a moment, please let us know what you think about this kind of long form storytelling, you can reach us on our listener feedback line at two, zero, two, seven, zero, nine, nine, five, nine five, or you can write us at feedback at world and everything. Dot Com. Thank you for listening to this special presentation of world radio. I'm nick.

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#EERS S8 Ep141: Reaping the Whirlwind

The Erick Erickson Show

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#EERS S8 Ep141: Reaping the Whirlwind

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This product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent vent any disease this just in it is big breaking news welcoming. It is eric erickson here atlanta's evening news. There is new archaeological evidence ends that has come out of the middle east today that it appears to show adam and eve were tossed out of the garden of eden not for actually eating the apple will but for drinking pumpkin spice <hes> that that it looks like there's some credible archaeological evidence out of that <hes> so you be on notice that pumpkin can spices what gets you banished from the promised land just just so you understand here all right now. We need to give you a quick radar update. We have of dorian completely enveloping. I ninety five at this moment. All of i ninety five from jacksonville up past savannah vanna to richland essentially the off to at hill for hilton head all of it is inside dory right now the outer outer edge of door in hilton hilton head fully fully inside the outer part of the hurricane savannah as well skidway island taibbi island port wentworth. It's coming for you who <hes> brunswick as well for an indiana beach saint mary's saint simon's <hes> down there all of that inside the hurricane right right now high winds waves the like around the coast miserable. They have reopened. I sixteen towards savannah but are urging people not to go in that direction they have reopened i sixteen because they need to get power trucks and what not to the coast expeditiously <hes> and that's that's the easiest way to get them down to the coast but they don't want you heading to savannah at least until tomorrow or so. This storm is still moving moving very very slow. Now i want to discuss upfront waffle house every once in a while waffle halcion. Also you get these stories of the media like. Did you know this place existed. What is a waffle house. Of course we knew waffle house existed and and so i want to make sure you are aware of this threat of how everything goes. There's a big story u._s._a. Today but actually found his twitter threat to be much more interesting waffle house is not a for profit or non another for a publicly traded companies privately owned <hes> chain of restaurants and they're open if you don't know twenty four seven three sixty five i honest to goodness did not go to my first waffle house until i was in law school. I had a buddy of mine ryan who is awful house. My first experience a waffle house unlike so many other people's versus house. I was completely sober. Subsequently it varies varies depending on who i'm with nonetheless <hes> they've got a reputation for emergency preparedness and the federal government actually looks at waffle houses to try to determine determine just how bad a situation is as far as the availability and sustainability of accessing areas areas waffle house has what's called the waffle house index now. What happens is joke teams of operators from waffle house get ready. They send generators raiders r._v.'s and gas to areas with restaurants. They're probably going to be impacted. They make sure maple syrup sausage biscuits. Waffle rations are fully stocked. They try to plan and ahead of time and again. They're used by the government oftentimes to determine how bad a storm is so for example <hes> state local and federal governments use what they call the waffle full house index is a barometer for how quickly community is going to recover after disaster when hurricane michael hit the florida panhandle last october for example it affected nearly five hundred restaurants restaurants throughout florida georgia in one way or another all but three of them were back to full operation within hours or days of the storm after hurricane katrina it in two thousand five waffle house had to close one hundred seven restaurants in louisiana and mississippi. Some of those stores took years to open back up because so many employees were displaced placed entire city blocks were leveled. Some stores never opened back at all since thin waffle. House is open thirty new store south of lake pontchartrain <hes> so what are the people quoted in this story is edited a pat warner who is the director of public relations and external affairs for for a waffle house and according to two at warner katrina was by far our biggest disaster. Most of the restaurants opened quickly afterwards. Some shut down entirely displaced a lot of our associates. Even if we could get the restaurants back up there was no place for our associates live they had no homes. There was a long recovery even with category five hurricanes. These types of closures does yours are an exception rather than the rule which begs the question. How exactly is the chain of nearly two thousand restaurants in twenty five states able to stay open during reading after storms when most other clothes and the answer is preparation. They spend a lot of time preparing they. They send their leadership into the field. <hes> they have a waffle house stormcenter the senior vice president executive vice president <hes> they go down they campout. They help out now. Let me read you from this twitter. Threat of someone who studies waffle house a waffle house can operate without water electricity chrissy gas communications some cases even without a building a restaurant without water isn't that against health code well yes but waffle house works to get variances france's for emergency operation and they reconfigure so if there's no water they set up dedicated handwashing stations they switched to bottled water and canned drinks. They switch to dubose disposable plates and cutlery. They reduced their menu waffle. Houses are the same and have preparedness designed within so for example <hes> the grills run on natural gas and propane so you can profit pop in a propane tank at stores of there's a disruption in natural gas. Yes the waffle house doesn't outsource unless it has to. It's not that they don't trust their suppliers but they control everything. Ship in refrigerated trucks gas propane water cash. There's people volunteers from affected areas or flown in the volunteers include the executive vice presidents the c._e._o. Or the c._o._o. Their direct reports could all go where waffle house executives actives during an emergency there at the site of the emergency. They're not in headquarters so if somebody needs a decision i used to write a check. If someone needs to authorize cash well guess what there's a waffle. We'll have executive there to be able to do it. They have food trucks. After michael hurt panama city waffle house food trucks and gave away two thousand thousand meals a day also affected workers. You don't have a restaurant to go to where they got personal or family destruction. They get paid weekly and cash. It's a fascinating look at a private corporation in this country and what they can do in natural disasters or a canes big events waffle house dutton get a lot of credit or notoriety nationwide but it is right now because of a hurricane <hes> it knows how to stay open during storms and it knows how to recover quickly after storms and and it is a georgia success story worth pointing out but there is a side angle to the waffle house story that is also a georgia success story it is what are the groups that i i oftentimes give money to and that is the the southern baptist mission board. The southern baptist are typically <hes> inside disaster areas before the red cross. They do not brag about it. They do not get credit for for it. The media does not focus on them but i distinctly remember in two thousand five with katrina and it is very much the same <hes> that waffle house house walmart and the southern baptist beat everybody else into south louisiana in south mississippi and you can say well. They're already there well. Yes they are but it was outside. Groups lined up ready to go in while the hurricane was still passing through the area and bad and they figured out the perimeter areas where we're the hurricane wasn't going to approach and then went in from the side angles and got into the area quickly waffle house walmart and the southern baptist. You cannot underestimate the willingness this of southern baptists to go into disaster areas where no one else does or at least where everybody else plays it. It is just my numbing to me to learn the red cross. Get so much credit from so many people in every time there is any sort of major disaster so many outside groups recommend you give money to to the red cross and nine times out of ten. It seems like it's the southern baptist shaw and by the way i'm not just talking about in the south across the nation southern baptist just tend to show up and participate and engage in levels that others do not and it is impressive to see and they as well coordinated here out of georgia georgia <hes> just like waffles walmart of course being the giant giant corporation <hes> able to get supplies in in use <hes> use the free market cricket and use its own resources to be able to show up and help people and stock stores and oftentimes give things away for people elenita major disasters in south louisiana and south mississippi again walmart was very very <hes> key in getting stuff back up and running down there and getting supplies to people. It happens all the time waffle house. Though is the gold standard in handling disasters it really is a fascinating operation and it's one of those that because because it is free market because it is privately owned because it's considered southern the media oftentimes ignores it in the same way they ignore. We're the southern baptist charitable efforts to their mission board as opposed to say for example the red cross and other groups <hes>. It's just it's it's something worth focusing on particularly tickly at a time like this where storms rolling through that it will be the private sector that beats the government in it'll beat the christians that beat the non-christians in no. I don't mean listen. I don't mean to offend by putting it the way that that's just the truth of the matter is a mission aspect to the southern baptist as to what they they do what they do and it's also with waffle house. There is a family element to office. I got to tell you i i know a guy. He's not a friend of mind but i know him. <hes> we were in wedding together. <hes> one of my best friends in law school was one of his best friends and so we got to know each other and his parents were going through a messy ac- divorce and he ate at the waffle house every night he did not want to go home. He did not want to be anywhere near his parents. <hes> and he went to the waffle house all the time and he ate depending on the crowd size. There was one of three different waffle houses he went to and when when he got married read those three waffle houses gave him and his wife a complete set of waffle house sprinted china <hes> they had enough rate people <hes> eight plates eight cups eight saucers saucers eight side plates eight nine eight four eight eight foods all from waffle house i it is a very family atmosphere when when you go to wal plus if you've never been to one you really should <hes> this is not an extended commercial for waffles. I'm just telling you it's an impressive operation. It is one. I regrettably did not get introduced to until i was in law school school. <hes> missed out on all those nights in college where i would have really appreciated the waffle house <hes> but you got it in law school. Now we take our kids there. It is a it's a family outing to go the waffle house. They're good people and what they do. In disastrous is genuinely impressive. It is ear hearings in here. The full number four zero four eight seven zero seven five zero one eight hundred rid w._s._b. Talk this is really rich. So you know the the the outside supposed public interest group bunch a progressives came into the state sued the state over the voting machines and the judge said you know what we're not going to get rid of the voting machines for this election and the state has new voting machines coming in for next year well they. They've decided these paper ballot lawyers have decided that now they want five point six million dollars from you. They said they were representing you. I bet you didn't know you were being represented by these liberal lawyers from washington but but you apparently were according to them and they've gone to court and said you now need to pay them five point six million dollars from the state of georgia because of this lawsuit by progressive activists this is that lawsuit. The democrats backed <hes>. They don't want to raise your taxes. They say they want you to pay a bunch of liberal lawyers five point point six million dollars for not getting what they wanted in court. They claim they actually won because the judge said <hes> that the machines are bad but the judge didn't actually tell them them to take on the ballot. Get rid of the electronic ballots for this election paper ballots no. She said we can't get rid of the electronic ballots this year. They got new electronic machines coming next year so we're not going to give you the paper ballots that you want and yet. They want five point six million dollars of your money. That's where the <hes> secretaries braff workers fighting this in court lot outside lawyers say he's probably going to lose <hes> because does technically they won by the judge say they had validity in their argument even though they didn't win because they didn't get rid of the electronic machines means a you know what's going to happen next year. They're going to sue again. <hes> the electronic voting machines the more likely than not our. I almost wonder you notes. The secretary of state's office has an office down in macon and the judicial selection in making his actually much more conservative <hes> <hes> more bush and trump picks than obama picks down. There almost makes you wonder should they should someone sympathetic to the electronic ballots. Go on and file a lawsuit down in macon. Notre probably be before conservative judge so the conservative judge can say okay yeah the these new electronic machines. They worked just just fine. We're not going to get rid of bi-strategic because the left sure is try to pick out judges to hear cases and get their way in charge tax payers five point six million in dollars the outer edge of hurricane dorian continuing to impact the coast of georgia. I ninety five from jacksonville will all the way up to savannah now impacted <hes> actually the pool area right there at at sixteen and i twenty is spared right now but you get into savannah and the outer edge of the hurricane actually goes straight through downtown savannah. It's actually kind of bizarre to see on on the radar map that <hes> you got down savannah and just that lying of the outer wall hurricane <hes> go straight through their <hes> wilmington island taibbi island completely inside the the outer part of the hurricanes getaway island as well <hes> heavy heavy heavy rain and wind down there right now they have reopened. I sixteen toward savannah <hes> but that's to get emergency crews down there. Don't go down there yourself. <hes> it's it's a mess. The wind is really one of the worst parts of this thing right now is there's a lot of win and there are spun off outer storms that have gone further into georgia <hes> if you know where hazel hirst is is down in south georgia near mcrae that area of ideally aligns the the very outer band of the hurricane <hes> has has swept through there with some really really really powerful but small clusters of storms. <hes> keep those folks in your prayers. Oh we need to move into local politics. There was a special special election last night in house district seventy one and this is turning into a very interesting race so philip singleton was in third place philip. Singleton is the conservative in the race who he he's a combat veteran. He's been awarded. Two bronze stars very pro-life and he was in third place. <music> democrats and republicans were working together to keep him out of the runoff in the reason they wanted to keep him out of the runoff is because he's been rather upfront that ease not a fan of the speaker and things the speaker is doing more harm than good and that the speaker needs to go david ralston <hes> and so you got a bunch of democrats and republicans volcker's rallied to keep him out we we raised this. Put this on people's radar down in <hes> in fayette county. Most of the district is in coweta county a little bit spills over into fayette. Hey it county and he went from third place to first place and he won. He won the initial election but remember. There's gotta be a runoff for this. It's a jungle primary all the candidates for piled up on the ballot <hes> and so he's going into the runoff now thirty six point eight percent <hes> marcy sacriston thirty four point two percent now what they're really really interesting thing here is that democrats suggested given the dynamics of this district. It is suburban ex urban. It is a women voters will turn out more women voters particularly in these sorts of various they don't like donald trump and so that would give jill prouty the democrat a fighting chance when you combine their disgust with donald trump with their disgust over disgust over the fetal heartbeat legislation this would be an area where democrats would be able to make inroads. These sorts of districts are the district's. The democrats need to win to take back the house. That's what the democrats. That is what the democrats said. It's not what i said. It's not with the media said it's what the democrats it and what what did they do. The democrat lost the two people who support the fetal heartbeat legislation one <hes> so marshy saxon philip singleton they will head into a runoff singleton. Singleton is not supported by davison sacriston issue got money from david ralston. I think he just assumed she was going to win because she is. Lynn westmoreland started the former congressman <hes> but him giving her money was a blight on her candidacy and dragged her down. She was ahead. Well ahead fact if you go out to. The seventy first district did that. I did the other day. Her signs were everywhere unit thought she'd win without a runoff signed her everywhere but man ralston gave her money and a republican should be all notice around the state eight. David ralston gives you money. You're going to have a tough time right now and we're seeing that all over the state. Perhaps they should consider. It's time for him him to step aside but i doubt they will. Republicans republicans just aren't bright when it comes to stuff like this the they they wanna protect themselves goals and they think the way to protect themselves as to stand on the status quo even when it is clear that the status quo is taken on water and going to sink. That's what they're doing now. The democrats are trying to learn some lessons <hes> from what republicans did in the six district special election <hes> remember that raise with jon ossoff against the the the two thousand plus republican candidates karen handel one that on the republican side ultimately beat off in a close special election where the democrats poured board in as much as they could to win that district in in ossoff could not pull it off well now. The democrats are getting together in atlanta in a crisis this meeting with the national democrats. We're they say they're not gonna let the democrats pick. Who's going to be the democrat to run in the isaacs a special election and yet some of the democrats are coming out of this say in <hes> sounds like washington wants to pick our candidate by the way at the top of the hour. I want to talk to you about the georgia four hundred expansion. It's kind of funny to me that george warrender was for the longest time a toll road and now they want to build toll roads on torture four hundred. We'll get to that a little bit. Okay so democrats are meeting in atlanta with officials from the democratic senatorial campaign committee and the d._n._c. <hes> these groups want to pick who the democrat democrat is going to be to run the isaac since they're really really concerned about a situation where the governor pick someone to replace johnny isakson soon that person is able to serve january to november build name i._d. As an as an actual senator raise money as an actual senator and then you have three thousand democrats who all wanna get advanced to show up and try to beat them and what happens is the democrats divide themselves up five ways to none and the republican incumbent senator is actually elected. They're deeply worried about that so what the national democrats want to do. Is they want to come down and they want to pick the winner in advance. Now i gotta tell you i am at least intellectually consistent on this. I think primaries do a good thing. I think primaries series forced candidates to do a better job. Take the sixth congressional district. There are a lot of people i know who are mad at me for backing karen handel again in the sixth congressional district considering. She lost against lucy and i get it. I do not think it was her fault. I think there were external factors at play. I think that the outside groups abandoned the ground game. <hes> the race was very close. She would've won. She was let down by outside groups. It was not her fault. She did everything she could in a waiver for the democrats and she lost and not by much. I say give it another another shot. She knows the district's knows the people she has the name i._d. Go fort. I understand that the people they're concerned the other side but <hes> i've had several friends ends of mind say you you know you should also if you're supporting karen you should be browbeating the other people and trying to get them out of the race and i have no intention of doing that and the reason i i have no intention of doing that is because i think a primary makes a stronger general election candidate. Now there are people who say well. They're gonna spend all their money in the primary and they're going to have done for the general i get that's a valid concern but i think it is far better to vet the candidates through a primary process than it is to have them run without a primary and essentially that's what the democrats want they do is they want to deny someone to clarify in process of a primary and thrust them into what is essentially a general election without having been vetted in excuses that while you're all going to be on the ballot together so what i think what will happen otherwise is let's. Let's be honest here. The democrats do not have strong bench right now. That's just the honest fact name measure with the exception of stacey abrahams name a major democrat in the state you there really aren't any there you can say michael thurmond who who is is how old and been wearing and done what for how long win john barrow same situation <hes> becoming rapidly perennial candidate who were the prominent democrats in the state eight of georgia there really aren't any. You're having to go down to people like jerry boston the d._a. In dekalb county who by the way super sharp and would be a formidable candidate it is she decided to run but she's not exactly someone with high statewide name i._d. So who are you gonna find well. The problem is let's. Let's see you throw in <hes>. Let's say you were to throw injury boston. John bureau <hes>. Let's throw in michelle nunn and jason carter as well because those are the james democrats are really really pushing <hes> jay jason carter and michelle nunn. This is sam nunn's old seat by the way you throw all those people in and what what happens <hes> they all have to pile on each other to try to distinguish themselves because the republicans only one person in the race whoever brian kemp picks and if those people aren't tested in this election through this primary process the democrats have no opportunity to grow their bitch so put them in their foursome to fight it out that each other author opposition research the cream rises and they find good candidates and start rebuilding their bitch now. Maybe i shouldn't be giving them this advice because this is sound good advice but <hes> it's it's ridiculous for the outside national groups to come in particularly because they live in a bubble. They don't know georgia. They have no idea <hes> what georgia values mean even to democrats and they're going to try to hand pick somebody from washington. That would be the kiss of death in yet. That's what they're trying to do not smart. You guys know the difference between a grassroots in an astroturf of group don't you the grassroots group is authentic. People on the ground who care about an issue get fired up and try to take action. Astroturf group is typically a group at a dc that comes comes in and pretends to be a grassroots group. It's astroturf. An astroturf group has sprung up going after georgia power. I actually support towards power on this. This issue <hes> they wanna raise their their base rate from ten dollars to roughly seventeen dollars. Oh it's going up. It hasn't gone up in thirty years. Actually i take that back up two dollars and thirty years <hes> and the problem is you got a bunch of rich people who are putting solar panels on their roofs and and they're not paying into the grid they're forcing georgia power to buy power off the grid from them if they have excess power but they're not actually paying to maintain the grid and that that's kind of what the base fee goes to if you have a house and you want access to power even if you don't use the power in your house well you gotta pay something to maintain contain the line to your house and maintain the power along the way and it's divided across all power customers and it hasn't been increased in a very long time and this is one of the problems europe is having this problem <hes> with people with renewable energy. They never contemplated this. They forced power companies in europe to buy back thanks so much power being generated by windmills and solar panels and whatnot that aren't connect to the power company <hes> that it's causing all sorts of havoc and liner degrading the the power companies. Don't have the money to fix the infrastructure look. I don't wanna pay it either but it hasn't been raised in thirty years and now this astroturf group is coming in and try to make you be convinced. George bowers bilking you out of a bunch of money which actually isn't true and it still more reasonable than the other groups out there. It's just it's very very interesting to see the saudi. Listen i support solar power says solar wind you name it a unit burn cow dung and boil water and and twister binds from that gopher and i'm okay with it. Finds handsome unicorn farts to do it go for it. I don't think george bauer gears heck down near me. Either building a massive solar farm but you know what happens is these companies. He's come in like elon. Musk has a solar power company now and and they rent your roof space. Let you get power from the solar panels and then they hire a bunch of lobbyists go in and and demand that the legislature forced the local power company to buy power from them whether they want to or not they got their own solar power companies and then they take people out of the cost which just causes the rest of us to pay. Hey it's kinda like all the rich people who got their tesla's with the tax break and then they weren't paying the gas tax anymore so the roads. We have less money to pay for the roads that all of us are using using because the rich people got the tax break for the tesla. I just i liked tesla's but lord that company. I would want nothing to do with that company when we come back speaking speaking of roads and traffic. Let's talk about george four hundred with d._o._t. Plans to do with it and the rest of the toll roads hello and welcome it eric erickson here atlanta's evening news on w. w._s._b. The phone number if you wanna be part of the program four zero four eight seven two zero seven five zero one eight hundred w._s._b. Talk talk. Hey by the way just to keep charlie on his toes. You can call eight seven seven nine seven eric in the morning although i think he's going on vacation so yeah absolutely if you wanna talk to low t. in the morning sorry okay. I got to talk about before. He disconnects me from the radio. <hes> i want to talk about george four hundred from it because this this is turning into a thing up. There <hes> is so there. Is that a road. What is it he oh encompass. Wh what is it encore encore the bridge over the pretty bridge basically one lane in each direction right there on the other side of top golf in alfa reta. Was there this weekend and <hes> so they want to put a lane. The alfa reta wants to put an on ramp to new toll roads and then let me pause here and just say i find it really really really funny that we are considering putting tolls on georgia four hundred for those of you who are new to the area georgia. Four hundred was a toll road. It was the most bizarre tollroad road you would ever encounter in your life in that you could ride on the entire course of the toll road and as long as you got off before lennox road. If you're headed southbound southbound you didn't have to pay it all and if you got on a just north of lennox road and drove north you didn't have to pay till it was the craziest during thing so they put the sole undoubtedly they put it right at lenox phipps eight. If you wanted to go shopping at one of the big malls you had to pay the toll and the rich people from north salona would pay the toll <hes> and in coming in and out of the city through four hundred pay the toll toll paid for itself in the way the road was designed is when the toll paid for itself would go away well they kept extending it until finally people i think they started threatening lawsuits and whatnot and the toll had to come down and this hasn't been in the last six years or so they tore tore down the toilet if you if you're just north of lennox you got that huge area that expansive area with buildings and stuff that's where the toll plaza was well now now now they're thinking of turning the toll road into a toll road again and they wanna put lanes on both sides unlike the reversible lanes anes on seventy five. They wanna do woods do it. What's happening on eighty-five and have lanes in both directions which isn't a bad thing considering the amount of traffic on four hundred now listen. I'm kind of ridiculing this because they probably never should have gotten rid of that told to begin with but this isn't a bad idea. They're doing that massive interchange overhaul at four hundred and twenty-five is going to screw up traffic for years longer they might as well go on and do this the amount of traffic now i should tell you oh i get hate mail every single time i talk about toll lanes people call them lexus. It's only the rich people can speaking speaking of. Did you hear about eighty-five earlier today this morning. He was mark arum who noted it actually <hes> the toll the you know it's an adjustable toll as more and more traffic. It's bad on the interstate. The toll goes higher. They try to price. It's to keep people out of the toll lane so traffic keeps flowing in the tolan at forty five miles an hour our that the toll got up to seventeen dollars seventeen dollars marker and put up a screen shot of the of the toll at seventeen dollars. Jamie jamie dupree for washington replied back and look at this one. He was to get into washington d._c. On the toll in washington was forty five dollars forty five dollars dollars so at least seventeen here. I like the adjustable toll. I like the free market principle. This is why i'm opposed to the anti price gouging outing legislation <hes> you let the price increase you keep more and more people from buying gas and so you ensure the supplies always there you increase the toll. Oh you ensure that the forty five miles an hour as pretty constant on the road at peak times <hes> but they want to expand these people send me hate mail all the time when i say good idea because they think it's just it's a fancy way rich people to get around well the poll the tolls ultimately pay for themselves build the toll roads and you're allowing the rich people to get out of the major traffic and free those lanes to for the rest of you or cheap today. It's not like it's super expensive except at times like this where it's was seventeen dollars frei brief period of time. It wasn't even a long period of time. I think it's a good idea and i think the d._o._t. Should be commended for this but but but but there is a but here here's my but on the toll lanes <hes> ice techs go to texas go to florida go to other states. I think they still do toll roads better than we do. In georgia i think there are still opportunities entities in georgia to allow in companies preferably not owned by the chinese to build some toll roads and the in particular. I'm thinking of of the golden i'll parkway and i'm thinking of it in particular because of the hurricane and the evacuation out of florida <hes> so you've got a u._s. Twenty-three it leaves macon in it runs through cochran and eastman mcrae <hes> and it goes all the way down to the coast it gets it ends and brunswick essentially the golden. I'll parkway and you can bypass the ninety five sixteen interchange going down that way <hes> and the goldenrod parkway. It's a combination of roads starts at highway twenty three and then it becomes three forty one <hes> then then it becomes u._s. Twenty-five goes all the way down to brunswick and i just think that we should have private the toll private tolls in georgia or leather d._o._t. Do it but i think we've got the capacity particularly in the southern part of the estate. They're building an inland port in core deal and the way the interstate is structured right now for example <hes> you gotta take from savannah you from the port of anna which they're also deepening and widening to bring in more more tractor trailers more cargo. You go up sixteen eighteen. The macon were there relaunching re changing the interstates and then you go down seventy five core deal or if you really want to you could take u._s. to eighty from corneal through advil mccray and the like and all the way over to pin broken in i sixteen there. I don't understand why we don't turn some of these into big. Tolls big highways now. There's not a ton of traffic down the right now but i kind of think the if you build it they will come approach works for these sorts of situations <hes> with tolls particularly if you're letting the state in a public private partnership do it in the same is the augusta to columbus route through making taken now they've been building forever expanding u._s. eighty and the like but it just seems like there's opportunity <hes> with a lot of land down there a lot of farmland to build some private tolls in speed people around you know the other thing is forever and a day. They've been talking about an outer loop from two eighty. I five. You've got to eighty five now around the city but it just seems to me at this point. We need another major highway that wraps further around. Maybe connecting acting woodstock alpharetta johns creek lawrenceville around conyers down two stockbridge fayetteville douglasville marietta roswell again make a big loop it. It seems like now some of this stuff is contemplated when you get into those areas. There's still a lot of cluster in those areas. It's land would become very very expensive but i just think there's more opportunity for tolls. I'm excited excited. That georgia is finally embracing tolls the way they are. I just wish we would do even more of it with more gusto. We know they work now. We know they've improved traffic. We we can see the measurable benefit of having toll lanes in ease not just easing congestion on the non toll roads but also expediting traffic africa on the toll roads. I wish they would expand the toll road on the south side of the city all the way up past the airport <hes> but there's a federal law prohibiting you from repurposing using existing lane of interstate existing lanes of interstate for other purposes and that law probably needs to be changed but these they really should be commended for this and i'm glad add. They're doing four hundred. I was through there the through there on saturday <hes> labor day weekend and it was a mess. It was an absolute mess on saturday. All the way up past alfa reta <hes> those toll lanes would dramatically east commutes in those areas and i realized alvarez got problems with what the d._o._t. Is proposing they wanna change some of the entrance ramps and the exit ramps. They want to put them in different locations. I think the the d._o._t. Has it right where they want them. <hes> even though i get alvarez concerns but we should be applauding the georgia bartman transportation for doing doing this and expanding this infrastructure in the state in a novel way to expedite traffic because there are only so many more lanes of traffic we can build we might as well build them in a way that allows people to pay the privilege of writing on them to then help cover the cost of maintaining them. That's that's money. Well spent all right lucy. In sandy springs. Welcome welcome to the program lucie either on your show on twitter earn an avid listener. Thank you <hes>. Can i ask questions okay so i'm new to this any springs area within the last five years and young professional in my early thirties and i came north carolina so i've been trying to keep up with upcoming election and i'm hearing hearing a lot of things going on in congressional six where i live and i just i guess my question is why is it so important for name recognition in that district with in candidate. I hear yeah okay. I you know this is. This is an excellent excellent question. Thank you for it. Lemme lemme explain why name i._d. Is is so important <hes> because voters particularly in urban areas are bombarded with so many candidates for so many races at the same time the people people with the highest name i._d. Tend to win <hes> we. I mean just take that rage. Take the sixth congressional district race. You've got a three or four candidates running now on the republican side but then you've got state house races state senate races. You're going to have to senate races. <hes> people can't keep up with all of it so the higher the name idea of candidate in each race the better they do. It's all about boosting your positive name i._d. Not negative but positive name i._d. To cut through the noise of so many candidates running it is there here except here we wanna be part of the program four zero four eight seven two zero seven five zero one eight hundred w._s._b. Talk hurricane continue swirling around out there stirring up the sea along the georgia coast savannah inside again poor old hilton head my beloved hilton head one day. I want a house in you. See pines i just do. It's the one place on the planet where the moment i crossed that bridge. I totally relaxed. 'cause i've been going there since i was in college and he was always where i went on vacation. I was in college buddy of mine had a house down there long story <hes> but man i hate for hilton head to get pounded by the hurricane <hes> it it will recover though it always does now. Let us get to the phones. I want to go to brad and locust grove brad. How are you all right. How about you good good. What's going on. Hey i just wanted to comment on the <hes> the toll roads <hes> as you were talking about and <hes> i lived in houston houston for three years and houston has three perimeters the third was almost completely finished now and the the the middle one and the outer one which is almost completely finished are both toll roads for the most part and it they really relieve congestion so so much compared to not having him like you with atlanta only having one <hes> i in my opinion. That's the best route to go is adding more another parameter as a toll road. You know yes although i gotta tell you. There's a big scandal in dallas because because <hes> one of the toll roads dallas <hes> now has so many people using that toro that it's actually slower on the toll road that it is the regular road and people are livid livid <hes> so you do have to do it carefully. Yeah just just compared to you know what i've seen out there and what i've seen in atlanta. It's it's just yeah. That's just what i've seen so but i mean there's there's numerous ways to do it but i yeah i understand what you're saying. I need order will not be surprised to learn and thanks brad for the phone co. You'll not be wrestler and i'm already getting hate mail from people who hate the roads and consider them a a tax on the poor and insult or can i be like rudely obnoxiously honest with you on how i see this and i'm going to offend some some of you who are friends of mine regular correspondence with me and and the like and i don't mean to but i'm just going to tell you exactly what i think. Who do. I even say this yeah okay. I'm i'm gonna say it. <hes> yeah there are people who can't afford to be in the toll lane there are there absolutely absolutely are and they can look over and be jealous at the people in the toll lane or they can look at the people in the lane and they say you know what one day i want to be in a a job where i can afford to pay the adjustable toll there are people who are in the toll lane who can get to their office quicker n. b. very productive and it sucks for the people who aren't in the toll lane but i see no reason to punish the people who can afford the toll lane to be stuck in the lane with everyone else particularly particularly when you're in situations where let's marta only goes up and down into the side <hes> oh in one little branch out <hes> the bus situation is crummy in atlanta atlanta. I liked the toll lane <hes> you can be jealous about the people who get to ride in the toll lanes in envious of them and say well. What about the rest of us. Well you know what go get a tick. Ah sticker and drive in the tolling and if you can't afford it don't drive in the toll lane but i think the toll lanes are good and they get people to their jobs productively and efficiently and allow people to pay extra to get there and if people wanna pay the money and get their well. God bless them for doing it. <hes> many of them are people who commute into the city and provide benefits. It's to the city of atlanta and elsewhere with their sales taxes where they go out for lunch. <hes> when they're working downtown they go home to their suburbs. They want an efficient way to get downtown and this is it <hes> or hey let's just dig up all the private land and shudder all the businesses on the sides of eighty-five and take all those businesses all those lands and put those people out of work so we can have just more general real access lanes. I'm totally fine with the tolling <hes> and frankly yes. Is there a little bit of snotty. You can say there is but by god if i can afford the toll elaine and i can. I'm going to take the toll lane. It saves me in the mornings when i have to get the w._s._b. Of gotta go up in the morning. It can save me twenty five to thirty minutes on some days. Why because some idiot in the regular lane is texting and driving and causes a wreck so i'm perfectly happy to pay for the convenience of avoiding the idiots were texting and driving in the regular lanes and i can hang out with the idiots in the big cars and the toll lane who are texting and driving and there's less room for them to actually wrecked for everybody else now. You're you're building the toll which means you're taking and tax dollars away from the general purpose lanes no actually the toll lanes typically or funded by bonds and some of that money goes back into <hes> refurbishing them and keeping them open and it's not like they're taking money away from the general purpose lanes. That's an urban legend to say that they're taking money away from the general purpose lanes <hes> because they put in the toll lanes. That's not really true and they're adding capacity along the way that pays for itself overtime so it just it's a number that people really what it is is the people who don't like that all lanes that kind kinda chalice aren't they. That's why they call them. Lexus lanes because only the rich people right in the lick sisley but that's not really true and by the way either better cars for people to drive than just your standard issue likes us call them. The mercedes lanes because mercedes is headquartered here now but ultimately is oh oh why can't afford it so he shouldn't be able to drive in it either <hes> just just get out of your covetousness. Let people who can do it do it and understand that you're you're avoiding having to bulldoze businesses along the sides of eighty five and seventy five and taken private businesses away to build more capacity. We don't have the property and the amount of taxes you would. I need to pay to take all that private land away to build general purpose lanes for the interstate. No just build the toll lanes there good. We need more toll lanes not less toll lanes listen. I i did not intend to spend an hour talking about toll roads tonight. There's plenty of other stuff but the amount of hate mail. I it's amazing. It's like the chick-fil-a issue you talk about chick-fil-a and you get a bunch of angry. Three people emailing you who who passionately hate chick-fil-a probably never even been in one of the stores with the toll road you get a bunch of people who were stuck on the interstate seen people apple is passed on the toll roads and they get jealous and angry the number of people emailing me right now sued suggesting that their tax dollars built the toll roads and they don't get to drive on them and that's not fair when it simply not true. There's nothing different between new emailing me angrily saying that you don't get to ride all the toll road in your tax dollars paid for it when that's not true as it is a bunch of progressive saying that chick-fil-a discriminates chick-fil-a does not discriminate chick-fil-a does not discriminate <hes> i it just just it's crazy to me. The amount of people who get so angry about stuff like this <hes> steph is and you know one of the things is conservative. You know my conservative frustration with the toll roads is that we're not allowing the private businesses to come in and build the toll roads it's d._o._t. Projects and the funded by bonds and i get that <hes> but i think we should open up lots of georgia to private businesses to come in and build toll roads and then charge us for the right to ride on. I am totally fine with that. As long as they do not have ties to china. I am totally fine with that. The more the merrier a build roads all over the place with private dollars not tax dollars <hes> funded by bonn's. John's led the private companies. Take care of it. We should have giant toll roads like florida has on the way to disneyworld but i didn't intend to talk about that today. <hes> i you know i didn't even get a chance to talk about the emroiled professor <hes> who she's on <hes> the there's a professor roy professor who who is calling hurricane doreen a manmade hurricane claiming that we used to not have category five hurricanes except once a decade which is true and it turns out. She's not a scientist into she's a creative writing professor. I'm gonna have to save this audio in play tomorrow. You guys have a good night see you tomorrow. It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind. It's pain and it's getting in between you and the life you want to live cd medic targets your pain at its source. 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124. North of the Tyne, south of the Strand

The Skylines Podcast

27:06 min | 1 year ago

124. North of the Tyne, south of the Strand

"Tree is grand jury. On genetic MRs skylines. The city metric I'm actually out and about right now, I'm recording this in the middle temple gardens next to next to the office. New statesman towers has been evacuated GT a fire alarm. I should the building still there just a test which the doing poly to kind of check the, you know, in the real far rule fine, but mostly to the crap out of all of us. But anyway, been kicked out ability in the middle of the afternoon just wanna get this this cost. So I'm I'm doing lazy. We're doing on my phone instead. And hoping that the sound quality is is remotely capable Ayla. This week is it's too hard episodes or two very different very different conversations in the first half. Unusually we're gonna lead with the experts section with center cities, which the chat with poor Swinney had a policy about about. Then important story that we've we've kind of missed we've not really seen enough Plato around here. Which is the last week Christie. No Tiene metro Maralack Shen, which we not paid enough attention to and that's that's part of the world. So we're gonna have chats about new Madge, Amy drew school of the labor party might do the role imitations are with the boundary stops at the time. Then in the second half, I'm off to another place. Very nearly statesman towers in fact, some house rhyme speaking to Likud charisma Rafferty who who's been working in the in the fields so way of dressing climate change, which is not even necessarily put those two things together. So I figured I'd go over there and have chat Vander how arts can can help save us all but before we get to that. Let's see. Let's see. So we're going to talk about subject, quite quite did your heart. But probably not quite dear enough. We're gonna talk about the new time Marathi the kiss as a Sunday. The native you grow up south at the time. So you're in the bed Tyneside that doesn't get this. Right. When not even Tyneside in from. We you suicides Ebner, John. So yes, once one time the this election have covered with Tyneside. I'm we side. There was a little bit of a falling out. And then we end up getting this new job fee, which is just the three thousand north of the river Tyne Newcastle north Tyneside often-bland, which is I mean that is basically the old no metropolitan county of Novum riot. That's there is there is suitable logic to that. If you kind of look story boundaries. But the fact that there could it no photographer just does not the reason is just literally that they could bring the other guys alone. Right. Yes. Exactly. The point of delusion is about trying to to the people living my life over. It's about the economy today. And what's John that perhaps what the you shy account may have been in whatever the way create is in twelve whatever it was. So the idea would have being to cover all area, which would have had you unsung daynuss while as often, but in Durham noble politics that didn't play out and we ended up with the three. North of the time pressing heads irrespective in someone hang on a minute. The Lucien is actually really big prize and just because gates doesn't necessarily wonderfully anymore because some does want to play anymore. Does it may not we should be deprived from having these powers stem? So go ahead and be pretty pragmatic. I think so why the geography doesn't necessarily work, and we would argue quits Newcastle in to at least you can take out of them and say well gunfire anyway have seen the benefit of division the phrase Cuzner coming Tuesday interesting because I mean, if you have been the region like gates have is very Logan, proud individual history. If you will just dropped in the aero no knowledge of that. You would just assume the south Bank of new coastal economy point of view. Yes, Amina definitely the definite function is one city. And I think certainly the redevelopment of the south of the time in nine hundred ninety s with the ball ache. Art, Senator in the siege. Building on the hill as well. The blending bridge being brought into that was very much about. New bringing of laws to size and same river together functions is is one place that isn't a safe from acidic view that gate centers and topic to identity, but if we're told me about delusion, which is developing eager Powell the economy down to that the economy operates over then yes, we should be used to is kind of a bit like doing having a London merit either stops tens or Manchester one that doesn't solve it. It's it's very you're cutting bits out you central business district, essentially, exactly agree describing. So I have a confession bowl this, which is the inner two years ago. We had the first the first round of metro actions, which in a wheel as poke caused covered pretty pretty closely. I think said by the status of London journalist, we covered it pretty closely. We feed a lot of the cabinet talked about the different races. I very slightly forgot this woman was happening. It was only when you guys published a blog the day after the election. So yeah that was yesterday wasn't it. Now to an extent in. Undefinitive is because there wasn't really much tension. Hey was that we kind of knew who was gonna win. But nonetheless, so you kind of give us a bit of child through the election itself. So interestingly, we were stings was very very attended very pleased about it was tight locally with again. The wasn't so much chatter think even the little press about and so I'm not surprised that you haven't really picked on. Because there just wasn't a big deal made about in the way that was the elections. Yeah. So in two thousand seventeen you had six of them. So even the ones where there was no competition whatsoever. Steve over always gonna be married livable city region, but kind of coverage because there was this whole new group of roles and in twenty eighteen there was the Sheffield city region while I'm which is already that's already going that Dan Jarvis probably gonna win Hughes's national figure. Novato really have any of the. There was a big big name going in for it. That said on burn more, Don Jarvis. Steve this to to a great extent as well. Just so pull in not national interest. And that don't think it was a huge dense fail as a huge amount of interest locally handset nights. The turn actually was pretty good. As far as Loeb election score was about three three percent of this is pretty good. And since while, you might you two thirds of the gloat avoid actually, if you the mesh against the log authority elections and giving the power of interests in in this actually, it was high and given the feted was pretty much safe safe level. Like, if there are a lot of things mitigating against people turning out there the first one demerits election, go thirty four percent town. So forty three percents free going where we were pleased to see that. It was an interesting race in not the politics always happened before the candidates were announced in I think a lot of people. I thought the leader of Newcastle. Nick Forbes was going to get the live or not it was very interested as approach, but then also the Lord live by decided one night, and then went for candidate, which is much more left wing and pitched himself very much being a social listening wants to do regional Bank in these sorts of things, which I think his politics probably much more in line with the currently leadership, and that was probably why getting selected so about was quite controversial about happens. Then how election played out? Yes limited win fairly comfortably. In the end. Breath. Thing was interesting to see the conservative comedies actually push of fatty hard. It wasn't an absolute landslide today an addict quarter second crafts votes because no one candidate mock up more than fifty percent of the vote, and I think winning by about seventeen thousand volts in the end. So it was comfortable, but pops wasn't as comfortable as what people may beforehand. This is worth thinking about. The joke years. Even though the bulk the region's population is going to be concentrated in Newcastle above embarrass around. Any trouble about the new cousin Tyneside again have to populations the people in new Newfoundland itself in largely rural areas small towns a much more likely to be Torey only. So that probably provides a bit more balance to us of political geography the region than might thing. Yes. It certainly if you look at the election history, you see blue in awesomely you'd see in north Tyneside north Tyneside is sort of flicked a thing in in recent years. I'm said that your party saying you semi sent some five percent of the population of the to those two thirties. So it was interesting to see perhaps the the concert Kennedy pulled more than what we might have expected given that geography so all sorts of things to pick will ROY guests from the election results in the end, Jimmy just one an election speech after which was very much about how socialist candidate. And we shall. See what policies he looks to put in place is now one of Labour's most powerful politicians in the country. So just to wrap up this segment. Do you think there are any prospects of the job raphia but role expanding to include that of southern half of the conurbation down into humor to balance out? The November of it human yet county d'armes Willett any I think for an ultimately debate success. We would have to see those is common board game because it is strange that new customer Tiki split into those limit the effect that the Meccan half. And when we did the things that was the first question that came out to his how many minutes, we haven't authorities of what do we want to do to to try and change that all the comedy said that they will be looking to to work with the thirty self time and bring them along with the plan to that doing the mayor's would say soft power and influence while it's hard hours. He has the ability to reach out to them. I'm short we will be the wage that come to in the long term. We were told that. Actually, you know, then then formally commandments of the combined phone in one small the left, and you try and get a more complete geography wine in. I'm grateful does strike community. If you do end up with one man covering the whole fat no feast region except the tees valley beverages cough into his own merit to Tori. Belgian of the that's kind of weed, isn't it? Well, I think this deplorably people who were big funds of the audio and say the northeast as a region we surely Hubbard as one, but interestingly, if you look the queuing problems very little flow of people from north northeast standard, the funny, I permanent culturally some extent as a bit of a difference as well, not people from pig from when you cuss a lot probably happened so much the other way where you know, you've got the title. We might appalling county excetera movement for for work unfor- legends across an area. But but more meant like you're going to end up with people in the southern bed county, Dr Who kind of covered by the mayor of new Newcastle Newcastle, even though they're much place into that kind of mood for Hartlepool spans coin to build the junk fees never going to be perfect. And I think it to some extent the Merrill nuts in place. Now, the banks the time all we to the tweet memorial Scotland. And there's not a lot probably that cutting coven the reality is it's not north Darren became. Came unit in two thousand nine meant more to district's Virgina one sort of super council. I think if that hadn't happened, we probably wouldn't be having a job few include all of county Durham all all of Norfolk and reality is I think that's the way it is. And you re we go and the best that we can possibly get given that the Carol. Jamie Driscoll numer of north of time. We she wrote. Here in in some house, which reading some that house was originated. But it's very fine culture sent conveniently close to these offices in central London. It is Georgia building. So ceilings, very high, and it's very eco liters. You can have to bed with us on that. But we are going to have a conversation about public space big issues like the environment. I'm gonna get my just off my guest introduce yourself now. Hi, my name's Krishna Rafferty, and I'm accurate responsible for public realm and partnerships hair at that house, and I suppose just kind of leading on from that someone's that house was originally built as government offices and housed the non revenue and offices navy all kinds of different societies. But it's now a arts and culture center that has a community of two and a half hours people working here every day. It's amazing. It is like propolis vague team century manor house being the middle of London. Overlooking the taverns whether it's an ice rink every Christmas and stuff like that. If you never been here with worth checking out next in London. So I was reading your you'll see pretty interesting career sounds of exciting things kind of give glimpse of your work ethic questions. Yeah. My beckons in design, actually, so I really kind of worked in editorial design Austin architecture books that kind of thing, and I kind of was much more interested in the development in the ideas around projects that necessarily doing the kind of production of it myself, so I- retrained in design creating and eventually ended up some house programming designed festivals of different sorts talks programs and things like that. So I've been here just over six years and the arts institution has transformed in that to time we have two studios here is about eighty seven artists in residence at the moment, and it's very much kind of evolving site over that time, I programmed quite lots of different types of festivals visual arts, mainly I've worked with artists on flags and outdoor commissions and all kinds of very. Strange things. So it just keeps me interested. Really? Okay. So we spend Fairmount on this this poke costume care about climate change in the lineage of civilization, as we know it. We've talked a lot about possible solutions that one of the things we haven't talked about solution to climate change though, is is performance. Art. That's not something that's really come up before. So so make your case hell, those things into why should we be paying more attention to that? It's something that has actually been kind of like a really important topic of research for me passively and particularly over the last couple of years, but that idea that we have scientists that we listen to don't listen to you. We have bliscoll leaders that we do we don't listen to. But actually a lot of the kind of shift that we need in society. What kind of transform into a kind of sustainable world to kind of culture. What kind of conversations do we want to be having with cells with our friends with families with society, and how can the rule of artists, I suppose is that they can propagate, and they can say things in different ways and use different language than politicians. Scientists. It's an emerging field. But I think is really important one. It's about basically promoting ideas going to spreading concepts for how can deal with this kind of with the PR exercise the environment. Well, I suppose that's one side of it but thinking through different future. So at the moment, I wet quite a lot with speckled to designers whose job is to come up with scenarios for how we might live in fifty years or hundred years, and so much of what culture can do is relate back to individual lives. So how does that relate to the way? We. We eat or the way that we are becoming that we might be more socially, isolated as kind of cities grow in develop. So there's the so many different levels of conversation that need to be had intensive society reacting to these kind of like global climate issues so arts and culture at can provide a myriad of different ways into that topic. I suppose give gimme a couple of examples of the suit of projects you've kind of been involved in the would fishing this category. So last year, we had an installation here, I not just cold Michael Pinski, which was called pollution pods. And it was five geodesic domes in the middle of the courtyard hair. This happens to be I think the fed west polluted area of London and each of those geodesic domes recreate it how it felt to walk through some Paolo or Delhi or different cities international. Beijing was one. I in terms of pollution. So summer, really, humid summer, really nosy smelly in different ways. So it was really really popular insulation. But it kind of allows visitors to have a more emotional visceral understanding of what occasion means you know, what you have in the press is just the same old stories again. And again, sometimes it helps to feel and to have a conversation with someone else. Susa the way to about his dozen nothing technically lot time parts per million of pm two point five of this will reaction to that. Exactly. The way we're can kind of see the smoke. I guess another way. And what do you want to be talking about his how does this affect the the lungs of our children? How does it affect how long we live what kind of cities we want? Do we want to live in cities all kinds of like media, everyday choices that we make so projects like that? Just a way into the. Topic that does sound like will they took him ever being on the communications exercise that you suggested there is another layer tissue projects. Project's kind of illustrate of ways in which this can contribute to the debate. So I'm working on something at the moment, which is a an op commission and the artist is a swing quarter. And she's at signing a new flag from the top house, and it's called chaos spirit, and the idea with that is she kind of talks about they got us to the wind and the ad. And it's a as well as being a flag on top of the building is fifteen minutes. Audio peace with con recordings from the city, and the idea with that is if we only listens to nature a little bit more deeply how that affect how we kind of think about ten years, these ideas. So the giving kind of space breathing Neum, I suppose within our kind of like daily. Lives to include nature. You've been researching this kind of as discipline? Is there any documentary evidence is this stuff does have a measurable effect in terms of how people think of climate change these other big issues that we need to be doing the twenty th century. Yeah. Lots of I mean, I couldn't reference specifically about those lots of scientific reports around the kind of the rule of culture, I quickly with an organization based in this building Julie's bicycle which basically is a not for charity that went with arts organizations to promote the idea of collective action in this area. And how all of culture needs to be talking about these kind of global challenges that we face through a maybe of ways one thing that I've been part of the last two years in his coming to the kind of finally now is a program called creature produces international which is project land by the watershed in Bristol and has been long running program called playable cities, this particular project is positive and the idea is that it's fifteen different producers or creators in different cities around the world. And the idea that the rule of off. Some culture in city change is basically the theme for exploration over these three years. A couple of examples such San gives exam getting getting boring now, but like talk about a couple of producers working around the world, what kind of projects in kind of cities talking about here. I mean, spilling widespread. So there's a there's representatives from layoffs from Mexico City from Tokyo as well as kind of UK clinics. This someone for mentioned to international festival who specifically looking at city change in relation to homelessness. I am this. I'm in Dublin call Michelle who specifically looking at cycling in the city and blacken wave council city officials as well as autism. Woody insists to kind of explore what does it mean to have a more pedestrian cycle friendly city things like that. What does that look like as project, I know cycle cycle clock? And I know, you know. Greg big public. Art looks like I kinda can't quite put the two together in my mind results from this partnership. So over the three years, there's a series of meetings where we kind of all come together to exchange, I suppose different challenges that we all face in the different cities that we're from the point of the program is to develop skills in terms of people that intersect where can with citizens would insis arts and culture, and then also who have a dialogue with city councils and officials and people who can planning essentially as part of that program. There's a couple of things that I've been doing here and my area of interest is obviously the environment and what public space in cities. How does the public space in cities relate to climate change and environmental challenges? So for example, there's a strain is Asian project. Just on all those that Herod some house, which is called strand Aldwych in. It's the plan is. To pedestrian is quite a large area in the center of the city. So as part of this program, I've been working with different groups of young people from the kind of local area to contribute to the public consultation. But specifically asking them what how how does this transformation? What does it mean? In terms of acquisition, intensive exchanging ideas on climate change together in public space, all kinds of things things like that. So the Celtics the new state of secession just round the corner. So the the pedestrianisation of the strand of issues deal for us, which they've been estrin ising icon. I haven't met the crowns Kwesi Phoenix citing its that for anyone that is media with old rich. It's essentially a really dirty busy roundabout that's a d shape, and it's just full of traffic buses all the time. But within the local area this amazing architecture. So there's a Christopher Wren marriage. The strand church. There's I mean, the confront houses beautiful Georgian facade based to small space that you dwell in the city, it's kind of a crossroads between like the West End. Then Cova Godman hope Southbank city is just sort of on the way to places on. Yeah. Exactly. And big cut through intensive north and south Mississippi. So a lot of in the the amount of traffic over. Snoop bridge going north is phenomenal. But the idea is the proposal being put forward is to estrin is the area between some our house Samaritan strength chech- and exceed kings over to the incident straighten embassies. The proposal is that it becomes an incredible new cultural space missing or just slightly played up ago pretend to be more selling because I love on the metropolitan abilities of this stuff. Then not an argument that like if you really want to sell something like climate change them an installation is the way of she to get you need later, boring policy changes you don't just need like more of a metropolitan liberal ages giving excited about something at Somerset house. How would you respond to was the counter argument? I think we need everyone, and we need to every kind of level of society and different sectors acting together. If people are not interested in the. Ideas, and how it affects their lives and Embiid wins and feelings about the future than people aren't going to listen to politicians and scientists. So we've got a two week program coming up here. Tom's house in April one of the installations, which I'm lacking one on in the courtyard is a series of nine very large scale LED powered highway signs not just in price. Greg, and you know, you've seen the school marches. You've seen kind of the retro comeback stuff. The extinction rebellion stuff. This is the people's kind of of the moment. So as part of that insulation. It's nine different authors. Poets right philosophies on climate change, and we're trying to create space in the city where people can come relate, some of those ideas and just have a conversation with someone else about what that means to their lives. Sounds fantastic untrue. People come a health. Thank you very much time. You've been listening to skylines the podcast from Hugh metric new statesman city site, presented them recorded by me, John edge. I'm produced by Nick Hilton, you find skylines every two weeks on I jeans Acosta, whatever app used to get you your custom warrior. Don't leave us a nice review to tell other people. It really helps people. Discover the show and on the meglomaniac. So the more people can get listened to this Beverley who see in two weeks. Thanks for listening. History.

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Midterm Election Preview

Words Matter

32:13 min | 2 years ago

Midterm Election Preview

"And. Welcome to words matter. I'm Elise Jordan along with Steve Schmidt. Our goal is to promote objective reality. As a wise man once said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Not their own tax words, have power words have consequences. Steve as you. And I know well, this is the time for closing arguments in a political campaign, and as the two thousand eighteen midterm election comes to the finish line. Donald Trump is not talking about the economy. He's not talking about tax cuts or even supreme court justices. He's gotten confirmed. Donald Trump's closing argument about sending active duty military personnel to the United States Mexico border. This is a scandal or should be with Donald Trump is doing. This is the abuse of the United States military for not sensical purposes political purposes in it's wrong. United States military has been at war for sixteen years crossed the Middle East and arrack Afghanistan. These troops have deployed countless times these are regular army troops element to the hundred and first airborne the fourth infantry division, the eighty second airborne division. These are warfighters no doubt their training cycle has been broken. And they are being sent down for a fake mission. This is extraordinarily in that. What Trump is saying is that the country is being invaded being invaded by an army and army that broke through the Mexican border and army approaching America filled with disease, leprosy infested, dehumanized by the propaganda, arm that surrounds, Donald Trump. The American military is trained to fight wars. We're not being invaded. He's making this up out of whole cloth is a remarkable moment that this many people in the country you're susceptible to ally. So brazen so outlandish so grandiose yet. He has the power to act on the lie by ordering active duty elements of the US military to the Mexican border in the largest number of American forces, deployed there since the Mexican war. In a situation where the presence is required because there is no threat last week, the official newspaper of the department of defense stars and stripes reported the specific units that would be deployed by Donald Trump to the border, and it was shocking that those troops include elements of the fourth infantry division than other things with the unit that captured Saddam Hussein also named was the legendary hundred first airborne division. That addition to exceptional valour almost every military operation. Velasco one hundred years was sent by President Eisenhower to Little Rock, Arkansas. Nineteen fifty seven to enforce Brown versus the board of education and protect nine black high school students they lawfully entered Little Rock high school and last, but certainly not least in my house the equally legendary and storied eighty second airborne, Fort Bragg, North Carolina, a division with the motto airborne leads the way and one that my father sergeant Richard Levin. The five third MPP talion tell. You from personal experience is capable of being deployed anywhere on earth in eighteen hours. These troops are among the best of the best. Steve what's going on here? Stupidity of all of this. When you think about the active duty regular forces of the US army that are being sent there. And of course, these are the units that led the way the eighty second hundred first airborne jumping into Normandy the fourth infantry division on Utah beach commanded by general teddy Roosevelt junior storied unit all of them. Having seen many many tours across Iraq and Afghanistan, and they are being deployed under titled ten which means that they can't arrest anybody. They're prohibited. From engaging in any law enforcement activity. So that means they're function on the border is this. They could say if someone was running across the border point to that person and get the attention of someone in the border patrol. Say they're someone running there. You might want to get them. That's all they can do. And you think about how many Christmases how many thanksgivings have any miss Christmas pageants? Birthdays football games, how many wedding anniversaries, how many times these soldiers been deployed? It should be deployed for a nonsense mission. Heading into the holidays disrupting their training cycle is an abuse of the personnel. Do you Queant and the armed forces by a partisan president who is using a scare tactic to throw himself a fake invasion? It's incredible most closing arguments in the last week of a campaign or about accomplishments, either the candidates accomplishments or their opponents lack thereof. These are the final summation about what these candidates and their campaigns are all about this is what they stay. For what do you think of Donald Trump's message over the last week? What's extrordinary about the close to this campaign is the degree to which Donald Trump has utterly completely totally embraced fear and it site -ment as the means to motivate his voters to the polls. He is stoked a cold civil war. It is just remarkable to consider in this aftermath of an assassination attempt on our two. Former presidents the country finds itself at a monumental fork. In the road d- most important midterm election in American history. And it has ended in the most rancid way we see a president of the United States. Donald Trump out there stoking in it citing a cold civil war, which has turned hot on the periphery a man who drove around in a white van festooned. With patriotic images of Trump and Pence together while there were images of Hillary Clinton, and Michael Moore and other figures of the left with rifle targets over their heads. He engineered the largest assassination plot in American history. We saw a man it Pittsburgh who before he entered a synagogue within a are fifteen killed eleven people shot for police officers. What he heard in the vast propaganda industry surrounds Trump. Would he heard is that the Jews were funding? The caravan the caravan coming to America to invade and what he said before he went into murder he said, I can't sit back watch by people be exterminated, screw the optics. I'm going in and anyone he killed eleven Jews. Now, the president has said that there is a way for this violence to stop. And he's been quite clear. About it. He said that it fact it is the media that is responsible for the violence because the media criticizes him we saw a person with the journalism degree on FOX and friends say, well, if the media would just covered things that the president would like to see covered, then the violence would stop this autocratic. Even after the bombs were sent to CNN. We have a president saying that the media's the enemy of the people he saying that they deserve it. There's been no letup on the incitements now in the final weekend. He has audaciously brazenly told the big line the danger of this isn't it's stupidity words vileness or it's malice or it's racist. Intent is that we live in a country. Apparently, the forty percent of the population is ready to fall for ready to buy the idea that. The United States is threatened by invading army and infested horrid bring leprosy and who knows what other disease is this message of fear. Affective? This is a moment. We're Trump's assault on objective truth bears, fruit. We're not only as he wants famously said could he shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and get away with it? But now he can make up out of whole cloth. This idea that America's threatened by invasion, and he will to stop it San active duty element of America's most lethal combat unit to the Mexican border. He'll take them out of their training cycle. And they will go to a political mission the abuse misuse of the United States military in this way is unforgivable in the silence. The silence by senior elected leaders in this country, not talking about the inherent wrongness and the in humanity. And callousness towards our troops who have gone on deployment after deployment after deployment. What about the members of congress? Tom cotton who served in the hundred and first airborne and Lindsey Graham served in the air force these politicians road their military service in office, and they talk about it like the fictional character. Danny Chung from veep. What do you say to them and others on Capitol Hill charged with congressional oversight? Members of congress, particularly the members of congress who served you served in the military served in combat. Have in porn responsibility to be good steward to the American military to watch it be abused misused as political there. So excuse for the military's above politics in this country. It's not a political prop. It is not a force to be used for the president to show power. The military's being deployed out of their training cycles for a mission against threat that is made up completely between the ears of Trump a fantasy for to demagogue incite in stoke fear in the country about the other the other that's coming to invade is this an abuse of power is represented extraordinary abuse of power, the president has no higher responsibility and commander in chief of the US military. What about the other side is the message? They are putting forward that. There needs to be a check on Donald Trump is that an effective message. The fear of Trump can make the argument is a real thing to fear. Because only one of two things can happen after this election Trumpism can be repudiated or will be validated. What does it mean? What does it mean? If a president who in the final weeks resorts to a racial malice that would make George Wallace blush. Incites violence. A continues to do. So even after there's been violent acts who says that the cause of violence is criticism of him that while investigations continue to swirl. He will be completely emboldened. A he'll be completing I restrained in the exercise of his political power. Steve what happens if Trump is not repudiated? Imagine the tone of the election at twenty twenty if the lesson from the two thousand eighteen election is that the Republican majorities were saved by racial. Incitement is that you would see the Republican party the party that began its history talking about free soil and free men become a white identity, blood and soil European style political party, a white ethnocentrism party in battle in a cold civil war against the rest of the country that. Doesn't look like them. It would be old. It would be white. It would be rural. The Democratic Party would radicalize. The magnitude of the failure disappointment would be almost indescribable. Let's for minute. Steve talk about the practical consequences of the validation of Donald Trump put that in perspective for us, and how emboldened will he be the validation of Trumpism has enormous consequences. He would almost certainly act to end the molar investigation to fire rod Rosenstein to fire Jeff Sessions. He would be unobstructed. And he would know that inside the Republican party that there would be no one to challenge him. Not even a Bob corker or Jeff flake who occasionally send it tweet of some objection. There wouldn't even be that there wouldn't even be that. What will it mean on that score Republicans hold the house and hold the Senate? There's nothing to shock anymore. What we see is plainly in front of us. And its meaning is certainly clear in what it would mean is if Republicans were to hold a house in the Senate is that at its first electoral test Trumpism was validated. And it comes down to a jury of one. How will Trump react to it? What he would know is that there was no restraint on the office of the president of the United States that all the criticism all of the negative press. It was his incitements his racial animus, his dishonesty his ferociousness to scapegoating. The carried today at us the era of the investigations will be over. We will not know the truth because he will fire everybody and what he will know for sure. Is there may be some tweets? There may be some outrage that the Democratic Party is no threat, and the Republican party is no restraint. He runs the show. And I couldn't think of him. We're gained outcome for this country in the world right now than that, a Donald Trump who sees it as I actual- contest validation, not repudiation. This is a nationalized election. It's a referendum on Trump. Democrats have a great class of candidates. What it will have man is that the message Trump delivered worked. That beginning with the Cavanaugh hearings and through the end even through the assassination attempt even through the murders in Pittsburgh, even through the nonsensical, deployment of the US military southern border it worked the propaganda work to campaign of fear work, the cold civil war worked is what it would mean. It would that. Would mean is that the bonds of affection entrust wood frame even further that the assault on objective? Truth would be well down the field, and that we live in a country. We're the most prolific liar in American history could lie his way to victory in a campaign of division of incitement in racial, malice that all of us thought was something in America's past. But instead looms as the challenge of our time because it is an inherent threat. A fascistic threat on our. Republican democracy. There's been a lot of talk about Donald Trump's rhetoric and acts of violence like the synagogue massacre in Pittsburgh is there a causal link when Donald Trump declares himself, a nationalist. He is sending a signal to the darkest corners of America. He has mainstreamed white nationalist into a coalition though, maybe not front and center in the rallies presence is always there. It exists on the web the thousands of communications threats. They know exactly what Trump is trying to say, there's a reason that there are sixty percent more eighty semitic incidents in this country this year than there were last year and more last year than the year before why is that was there an early spring rain in the crop of anti Semites in the country has bloomed that suddenly there sixty percent were. Or did the antisemites we have feel emboldened to take action to express what they knew they couldn't express before. Because they've got in the wink in than I'd and there's been more dog whistles more winks to knit the end shouts with bullhorns. Stephen all previous elections at this point in the cycle. We talk about momentum gaps closing what is your sense that? How it's going how this is gonna play on Tuesday. There's been more votes cast in two thousand eighteen in early voting that there were in the entirety of the two thousand fourteen election would that means every model every electoral model is out the window. Nobody knows what's going to happen here. Because of the overwhelming turn out the country's engaged, but people should vote who have fidelity to the American idea and ideal who don't wanna see division who don't wanna see the lying. You don't wanna see the cruelty the incitement, the racial animus. Don't wanna see this get worse. Don't wanna see blood in the. Treats don't wanna see the corruption. Don't wanna see salt on institutions that want to remain connected to the history of the country connected to the March towards our ideas and ideals and not to be part of a movement away from them. This is the most important election in American history at the mid term point between presidential elections. There's never been another one. And there you have it from someone who knows most important mid-term election in American history that will have to be the last word on behalf of myself, Steve alise and all of us at words matter encourage everyone to vote the stakes couldn't be higher, and there's literally nothing more important vote vote in we'll be right back with a lease on her sit down with Senator Roger wicker accorded in your grandmothers. Living in Mississippi. You're not gonna wanna miss this one. Last week, the least sat down with Senator Roger wick. Let's listen. Last week. I was touring around the country doing focus groups and had planned to go home to Mississippi for the weekend. When on Wednesday night, my mom said her fourteen year old dog wasn't doing that. Well, so I called an earlier flight the next day. She picks me up. Unfortunately, are sweet so fi passes away. And she also tells me that since I'm early I could go that night to the First Baptist Church that I grew up in and listen to our Senator Roger wicker who is running for re election in Mississippi. That was the easiest try of Susan Jordan to ever get me to go to church. Unfortunately, I will admit so we decided to go to church in she wanted to keep busy. And as soon as Senator wicker came in. I asked him if he would do an interview, and he very gamely. Agreed any agree to do it. The next day. Will it's great to be with you. I have my happy socks on today. We just opened the the complete Mississippi section of interstate to sixty nine and we have one of the few new interstates in the country in in this in this county, and in the next county over we had a little bit of a technical issue with our recording in my grandmother's living room. So I decided I wanted to tell this interview as a story as a Mississippi story, it wasn't the normal environment that I conduct interviews on this podcast or say on morning, Joe with my mom, and my uncle sitting on the couch across my mom, being very polite southern bell. And I had to ask some questions about Donald Trump's rhetoric and his tone in ten or. Oh, well, I don't like the tuna Replogle rhetoric. These days in America. I was upset about how Donald Trump belittle. Dr Christine blassie Ford in front of Mississippi audience who cheered him on. I asked Senator wicker about his thoughts on Donald Trump's criticism of Dr Ford, our home state and got the back story that it had been a premeditated decision that Donald Trump had outlined flying down to south Mississippi on Air Force One. I was actually there for for that rally. It was it was the soda county rally where the president come into make it emphatically clear that he was endorsing Senator Cindy hod Smith for election. There's an ongoing debate about Donald Trump's rally rhetoric if he is such a master of sizing up his audience in he can see their passion in their energy and cater to. What they want in a given moment or if he's actually plotting in thinking, and there's a strategy to some of his most missin missing in bullying language in this case. There was a strategy. He told me on the way down on Air Force One that that he thought he had been a little too easy own doctor forward in the sense that everyone was well doubting her story everyone was making her into a sympathetic figure. So to made this was the president's way facetiously with some sarcasm there as uses to point out the inconsistencies in her story. I did not view it with the with the outrage that. Members of both parties did. So I wanted to ask Senator wicker who was a deacon in the Baptist church. How he felt about Donald Trump's bullying as a Christian, and this is also coming from my grandmother's living room where my grandfather also a southern Baptist deacon. He were still alive. I I don't think that he would have very much tolerance or high regard for how Donald Trump treats other people. Here's what Senator wicker said. I have been a deacon. I'm not an active. That's the way you as a journalist choose to characterize his conduct in in asking the question. I'm not going to not going to subscribe to that. I don't think it goes far as bullying, he's very fatty course, thank gets his point across in in an unconventional way. And he has a way of connecting to to middle America in a way that that maybe a a lot of have been that have been the politics longer have have been told to avoid you really bullying, you could say to your grandchildren. That's okay, I'm not I'm not choosing to characterize it in that way. I will admit that. It's that it's unconventional. Of course. Donald Trump is completely unconventional. Prefer to talk about the accomplishments and one way or another. He led us to a great center right victory two years ago, and based on that with the Republican bear Republican majority in the Senate majority in the house and the administration he has followed up on promises that that we all made. And so I I just prefer not to get into a long conversation about the way the president touts is words, Senator wicker chalked up Donald Trump's language as unconventional and regarded me as a journalist which was a little unnerving since I was asking him this question from a shared cultural context from the shared context of growing up and being part. Of an evangelical religion in the south. It was interesting to me that it could be unconventional to use that kind of language win. Everything I've been taught previously in church told me that no that's just not behavior that Jesus would exactly be down with. I also asked a question that Senator wicker really doesn't get asked very often in Mississippi is the chair of the US Helsinki Commission, which emphasizes protecting human rights and attacking corruption around the world. It's not something I run on. Yes. But it's incredibly important, you're at the forefront of pushing for fundamental human rights and the decency and dignity that we treat people in the world and stamping out corruption and the in the global Magnitsky act you've been active with. Was one of the three major co-sponsors of the Magnitsky act, which which is designed to show our disfavor on international thuggery in in lawlessness much as as President Putin has done in the Soviet Russia. Senator wicker raised the possibility of sanctions for the Saudi leadership who played a role in the murder of Jamal kashogi points to a real debate about extending global Magnitsky sanctions to to the perpetrators to think of a of a country being prominent on the international scene with a government that that is represented by talented diplomats to think of that government offering such flimsy versions and contradicting themselves and being caught. And then having finally admit that the murder was pre meditated. It's it takes your breath away that the Saudis could be involved in such thing. But every bit of evidence so far points to that. So let's let the investigation go forward. But it looks it looks extremely bad. And and the truth will come out just like just like the truth came out on the murder of Mr. Magnitsky innocent lawyer who was just trying to inform governor is government about it a fraud taking place in Russia. The truth will come out, and we're going to have to let the chips fall where they may. We obviously we'd like to be friends with the Russian people were not very friendly with the Russian government right now the same is true with the Saudis. We we we'd love to have wonderful relations. They reported to us import in the region there. Accountable against Iran. All of that is important, but the the sort of of absolute brutality and outright premeditated murder that that has apparently taken place with the blessing tacit or otherwise of the highest officials in the Saudi government. Its it's a matter of concern we'd have to deal with it. And and it's not something that that we can sweep under the rug. I wish it hadn't happened. Do you think that we should stop arm sales to Saudi Arabia and stop our support of what they're doing the ward Yemen? That's essentially a famine at this point will what's happening with with him. And is is a travesty. I'm not ready to say, we should we should stop the arm sales to our ally. Saudi arabia. I'm not ready to say that. But but it's a debate that we need to have. After the investigations, completing let's get the facts found out how it actually goes in the hierarchy over there. And see what what the reaction of the of the monarchy is it might be that they'll replace the people involved. I would hope that that they would be severely dealt with for murder and once that investigators complete them further dealings needs to be on the table. Whether we stay with for the dealings. Yes. I also put myself out there as a potential debate moderator if Senator wicker would agree to participate in debate. Thank you so much. I think if if there were a debate, you would you would be very very good. We have developed a campaign plan, and it has not included debates. You're a great member of the press. And I will have to say the only people the hull campaign that have asked me about debates. Have been the press, except of course from opponent. He's he's asked about it too. I think we're entitled to run our own campaign. And this is not something the public is is clamoring for so the answer is very doubtful. I'd rather talk to reporters like you much better question. I just love the robust discourse of ideas. And you certainly seem like you have no problem talking about complicated ideas. Absolutely believe that you enjoy the robust discussion about deals and you done a good job of it today. Thanks so much for coming to Holly springs taking to be back in Holly springs. Thank you Elise. Great stuff. It looks like Senator Wicker's afraid to say anything bad about Donald Trump, even sitting your grandmother's living room. And we also want to thank our sponsor audible, we encourage everyone to go to audible dot com slash words, matter and sign up for thirty day free trial. Title audible because words matter. 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"William SEWARD secretary stand I'm still at what do you just because you secured me. A new office doesn't mean that has to change congratulations congratulations. You goo- toll all this is for you. It's a it's a Pi Pi dapple dough cherry. Actually I don't remember which you made me Apollo Mrs Stagnant. I commissioned it. Though as a way of saying thank you I wouldn't have this office word for your favorable apple recommendation to President Lincoln that is unusually kind and how other children as young fanning well. What do you want. Arden wouldn't and all the years. We've known each other. You've never once asked about my children. Much less made me a pie what you want. We on the issue of Arman captured slaves so that's what you want to know where them if we arm captured slaves the border states will turn their back on us and without their support. We cannot win the war our numbers. There's are dwindling. We need more troops. Don't forget this subject is a reason Mr Cameron. Your predecessor was asked to resign. The president has made his views on this issue issue. Abundantly clear abundantly clear about the president's views on this issue is that he has no spine. It's your first day. Don't don't make enemies so sue politics. More friends are better than no have no friends. I'm your friend. I only one. I don't know how I ended up settled with you irritating man. Who are you want me to stay away from. Armin captured slaves fine when I want something in return turn I had major record conduct a survey of our current military inventory the majority of our supplies come from our friends in Europe up clothing arms medicine and the light. Yes that's correct. Those items should be manufactured and purchased here on American soil not overseas. I only need European no are it's a statement of support. I don't have to remind you. I don't think of the thin line we're walking here. Domestically and abroad God France and England watch our every move. I'm doing everything I can to negotiate a lasting alliance spitting in the face of our allies on a divisive issue and it will not help the president's call neither will losing the war. We are flat broke. William cannot win a war without money. Let's put put our factories back to work. The flow of gold abroad will pour back into our economy and northern industry will be ignited from this depression. This initiative will exasperate of friends across the pond as much as it will exasperate our enemies below the Potomac Lincoln will never agree to a few support me he will. I don't know do you you want me to take on enslaves off the table or not at the sound of capitulation. I'm signing this supporting you in an effort that might anger England and France France because I don't want you anywhere near the issue of arming slaves not one word about that subject from you or your office. You understand yes. Do you need independent. You're a very difficult man to be friends with. Do you know that Edwin good afternoon to noon Major. Yes close the door behind you. What can I do for you. Sir Grab a pen and paper take this down of course to General Hunter from the Office of the war department message general enroll you are hereby ordered to proceed with the arming of captured slaves sincerely at Wenham Stanton Secretary of war <music> in eighteen sixty five eighteen sixty five is sponsored by Madison Addison Reed in eighteen fifty six the young British chemist William Henry Perkin was trying to synthesize a treatment for malaria in his lab he failed has bakersfield not with Quinine but with a thick dark sludge shoulders slumped and defeat he set to start again and began cleaning the beakers with alcohol miraculously. 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There are so many stories stories to tell from seventeen sixty five to two thousand sixty five and your support is critical to our success so please go to eighteen sixty five podcast ask dot com and become a patron help us continue our work bringing history alive by going to eighteen sixty five podcast DOT COM EH. Mrs Thank you all Swear Secretary seward upstairs. Would you like a glass walk. I'm fine. I'm fine. I need a moment alone with of course but iron away any in August till I'm gone. He is already entertaining guests. President Johnson and secretary <hes> wills with net on the dog is <music>. I'm Mad I'm mad cer- President Wells Mosley's to stanton. Do not expect to find you to here yet here. We are interrupting no no it was just regaling us with the heroin tale his attack hell of a story. Ray seward tells me you are with him. Stanton just moments before pay not done the door sir. You know lucky you left when you did. Would you be given that fellow more favorable target. Do you mean his beard verse. Belly uh-huh damn good to have you back soon a damn good indeed secretary wills was just filling me in on the details of President Johnson's Johnson's amnesty propose. Is that right yes. I've not read it. Of course I'm still feeling entirely myself after to what you can do it. WHO CAN BLAME YOU MR President. I'm surprised this proposal is being discussed at all especially given the nature of our last conversation yes tale was to seward needs time to recover gentlemen. Let's not thrust him into the middle of a contentious debate so soon it's fine Edwin. I'm fine. I sent for the the president directly did you yes. I'm only here to pay my respects. You brought along your amnesty proposal. I'm afraid I'm the culprit here Mr Steph. It was my suggestion. President Humid me after everything. Mr Sue has been through. He's and a chance to make his views known. I appreciate that Mr President if I recall Mr Stanton that is precisely what we discussed in our private conference last is. I suppose you're right South Mississippi. What are you all right. Yes I am. I Shall I send for a man downstairs. No no need I'm. I'm just a little over well gentlemen. If you don't mind of course you need your rest. You're speedy. Recovery is what matters most. We'll get out of your head. Gentlemen showing this stay of course take care of yourself sued good glad to see those eyes open again. Thank you thank you Gentlemen Mad Mad mad you. My friend look terrible so do you how you feeling better family. It's a difficult. When will you return to your duties tune enough being very taciturn. I'm always very test your the one that doesn't know when to keep his mouth close you send for the President I did. You should have sent for me. I because you're worried about me. You're worried what I might say. I am worried what you might say. It should be people find out denied Lincoln security. It'll would not to mention the work. You're doing reconstruction. William if I had any idea what was going to happened that night. I'd never know. I don't blame you. I blame John Wilkes booth yes but this investigation is about more than indeed when I heard about your military tribunal. Do you really think now is the best time to be suspending. Civil Liberties as president signed off on the treadmill. Did you leave him a choice. Did you discover some means of forcing his AD. Why don't you ask him. Brian mistrial is about reporter John Wilkes litigating the future of this country. If the facts don't play in your favorite will but if they don't TRIPP lite telegram may seventh eighteen sixty five from the executive chamber Washington City the persons implicated in the murder of the late president Abraham Lincoln and the attempted assassination of the honorable William H seward secretary of state are subject to the jurisdiction of unlawfully triable before a Military Commission President President Andrew Johnson Congressman Bingham well well well. It isn't little stamped little stanton. Everyone calls him that back home not anymore they you don't. I'd love to hear the story behind. Look at a major. The story lies in these proportions. He's as short and disagreeable today as he was when I first met him back in Ohio on the debate stage yeah stand on a stool so that his head might be seen over the podium. That's just false as the spurious passage you quoted from the constitution in our first debate. You wanted to lecture me on the Constitution <music> after you yourself intentionally skipped passage to bolster your argument. You've been peddling not lie about me for twenty years. I beat you on the merits of my disputation and that's the end of was it. You'll never own up to what you did. Will you little stanton. Should I excuse myself yes. I'll take my leave mister secretary. I never thought I'd see the day when a wig the Democrat would sit down and solidarity buying the legacy of a Republican. He's a strange times. We live appaling even yet here here we are we are indeed well. I'd like to go first if that's all right by. You fine provided you don't skip anything to important. Thank you for agreeing to support my reconstruction plan. I appreciate your loyalty. I'm here out of loyalty to Senator Hale. Not The absence of the Negro vote in the Friedman's bill is a bitter pill to swallow for you and the rest of the party. Incremental progress is better than none at all tobacco. Republicans understand this then. I hope you'll understand. We have more immediate problems. The Negro suffrage Johnson wants to give the south amnesty that would kill Lincoln's reconstruction plan. Yes it's the Friedman who will suffer most if Johnson pardons the south the war department will be forced to take back the land. We've given to the Friedman and return them to the plantation. Owners bomber's not to mention if the southern states were admitted to the Union we'd lose all power to override Johnson's veto he can block Negro suffrage which is why we have have to block his efforts. There's no legislative solution I can offer you stanton congresses and recess means you have plenty of free time on your hands free time for what Lincoln appointed the Judge Advocate of the Union army years back did he not he has. I told him he was out of his mind. Knew nothing about military law at the at the time yes but what about now well well. My Wife says I'm quick study. I want you to prosecute my military. Tribunal Miss Debenham with John Wilkes booth dead. Our only only hope approving the southern conspiracy lies with this tribunal. You'll be working alongside judge advocate hold but you'll be my eyes and ears inside the courtroom. If we prove Jefferson Davis and the confederate leadership responsible for the murder of Abraham Lincoln the path to amnesty will be blocked. Johnson won't be able to part <music> south now without making himself trader or an accomplice. This is all assuming you can prove it and assuming I'm willing to help you <unk>. I skip the line Bingham in our debate. It hurt my argument so I skipped over it so as not to weaken my thesis finally admitting to cheating after all these years admitting that you are better lawyer than help me all right. We'll stat of course in eighteen sixty five five is sponsored by Bama's. No one thinks about socks often and why should they. 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I remain eager to get back to the business of the state. I look forward to our meeting this afternoon. In deeply appreciate your accommodating my condition by bringing ringing the Cabinet Secretary of State for the Shooting Death Stanton Mr President I believe it is high nighttime resolved the issue of amnesty once and for all so we can move on to more important issue those lands belong to the Friedman's bureau. That's tantamount to saying they belong to you. Promises have been and Mr Wells promises must be kept secretary seward. What is your opinion well? I've reviewed the amnesty proposal and it's an excellent compromise. Mr President William it's time to reunite the country and when amnesty is the best path for Amnesty is the best pet that are you out of your mind me finish. I've also finished reviewing the evidence. Mrs. Stanton has compiled it gave me pause Mr the president well. I'd like to hear the evidence so would I wouldn't after we put the Negroes into the fight. The rebels began to see the writing on the wall. They didn't have the strength to best us on the field of battle so they took the fight to another front clandestine warfare Mr President Clandestine Warfare Yes sir last February Jefferson Davis and the confederate Congress established a million dollar fund bankroll the C._S._S. S. The confederate secret service aspiring operating out of Canada. What in Tom Nation does Canada have to do with this? The Union has no jurisdiction this diction over Canadian banks confederate money flows in and out undetected Mr President the C._S._S. launched multiple incursions over the last year most notably the rate. It's dogs. They started the fires in New York. During the elections last fall they even tried to assassinate president can with pestilence <music> by infecting blankets with smallpox Hashed Almighty. You knew these attacks taking place of course we knew how our agents penetrated the C._S._S.. As a result we were able to thwart a majority of their plots. This was known secret in certain circles of President Lincoln's administration Mister. Lincoln himself was where the C._S._S. activities yet. No one in the cabinet chose to inform me the Navy secretary certain circles as Mr Seward said for obvious reasons since we felt secrecy was paramount. Tell them the rest were these operations all follow the same pattern money from the confederate fund is deposited into Canadian banks. Thanks C._S._S.. Agents withdraw the money in Canada and crossed the border from the north he attacks April fourteenth or no different. We have a letter that proves booth both met regularly with contacts in the confederate government. We also know missed booth made multiple trips to Canada in the weeks leading up to the attack at the same. Nothing boost conspirators here it is Johnny Sarah whom we believe is the architect of booths operations is known C._S._S.. Operative Lewis Pain Powell on the man who attacked Secretary seward word is a former confederate soldier and a suspected C._S._S.. Agent additionally Canadian Bankbook and Mr Boothe name was found in the hotel room of a man named George at axelrod the German fallow the one who has meant to kill me. Yes Mr President if the true depth of this conspiracy is under to the public you cannot pardon Jefferson Davis or his cabinet. You cannot pardon the confederate generals who presided over the bloody insurgency and you cannot pardon the wealthy plantation owners owners who funded this in cities rebellious my suet it must be said the president's executive order does not guarantee amnesty to any of the classes of individuals you just mentioned yes Mr Mr Wells which is why I am implying towards the compromise however politically it is prudent. We wait for the tribunal to conclude before announcing anything public once we've seen the full facts we evaluate position Mr Stanton I defer to Secretary seward trust his judgment dwells. I have no objections. Only one caveat President Johnson should select the tribunal tribunal jurors to avoid the perception of buys. I suggest an even split of Republicans to Democrats excellent suggestions all right then should it seems is your druthers or my brothers. We wait for the tribunal before moving forward. Come as dwells. Let's leave Suid to his rich of course sir good luck with your tribunal stem. This is a mistake. I'm giving you a chance to prove your conspiracy. If you're successful you'll have my support and if I'm not Johnson's amnesty order is a reasonable path that piece awesome sound like Gideon well. It's a good compromise. I won't needlessly throw away everything we've done over one issue. This is the reason for everything we've you've done. This is the reason President Lincoln is buried in the ground or is it because you denied him secure. If it didn't happen that night at the Ford would have happened somewhere else. You may be right then and what do you want from me. I want you to stop this subterfuge what we're calling it now. Detaining of innocence suspension of civil liberties liberties military occupation of the south. What term would you prefer us on your first day in office? You made me a promise God's sake and the very very next thing you did is stabbed me in the lest you forget William arm and captured slaves is what turned the tide of the war but it wasn't enough was it wasn't meant to patient you had to to push Lincoln on citizenship to and when he heeded your advice when he spoke the words in public for the first time that people think in with a bullet to the back of the head and there's a cost to your changed after everything if you don't realize that by now I fear for what will become a there's something you need to know about President Johnson about who he was with the night of the assassin stop whatever he's done. It doesn't doesn't matter he's the Do I have your word yes. That's another promise you've made me see that you don't break this one. <hes> telegram may eighth eighteen sixty five the trial conspirators will be commenced before military commission on. May ninth and if the same facts are brought out that have been disclosed in the preliminary examinations the magnitude of the plot will astonish Donald the whole country. There is no doubt if Jefferson Davis last act was the murder of the president it will fix very accurately the place which the rebellion will occupy in History Edwin M Stanton Secretary of war. How's the case coming along Mr Bingham. That's actually why I'm here to finish a preliminary review of the the evidence and I have my doubts quite a bit of conflicting testimony. The biggest challenge is far as I see it is making the tribunal jurors understand the complexities cities confederate clandestine operations next to say nothing of the particulars of John Wilkes booth and his team of shadowing figures. It's a tall order stand Mr Bingham. It is critical improve. The southern conspiracy I understand means for the avoidance of doubt we need guilty verdicts booth conspirators across the board. That's not all we need in addition into guilty verdicts. We need to draw a direct line from John. Wilkes booth to Jefferson Davis and the C._S._S. like I said it's a tall order. President Johnson wants to list of tribunal jurors by the end of the day. Now I would like your input. Take friendly jurors. That's my input of course but I was thinking. I want you to select them. I'm I'm the prosecuting attorney. You want me to handpick the jury. Yes I do as Johnson going to have an opinion on this jazz. He'll want the members of the jury to be impartial which which is a euphemism for Democrat now for obvious reasons. We cannot let that happen. He's going to reject the list Stanton. I don't think so but if he does it won't matter you can why not because before I give it to him. I'm going to leak it to the press if he tries to win a fear of force me to add more. Democrats will look like he's politicizing the tribunal. Aren't you concerned. This is a bit unethical on ethical Mr Bingham. If you want to win. Sometimes you have to stack the deck or or skip a line in a public debate. Now you don't forget you won the debate but your candidate than bureau and lost the election. That's because Van Buren didn't have you in his corner. Now deliver me list. Mr When Lincoln floated you as a replacement for Cameron he came to me. I suppose because you and I both come up at the same time in Ohio. Ohio wanted to know what kind of man you would. What did you tell him. I told him I didn't care for you. The feeling was mutual at the time. I mean I also told him. You were the sort of man who knew how to get things done and that above all no. I didn't always agree with you. I believed you were a patriot. Two years later. Lincoln attributed your hiring to my council. Thank because he said he couldn't have survived the war without being more. You're trying to take credit for work. No but I am taking credit for putting you where you are today. Don't make me regret <music> <music> Mars President Lincoln just spoken to major relate to a message did he. He says you disagree with my recommendation for a military strategy vehemently disagree. He also says that you told him him to tell me that I am damned fool though he would repeat the words out loud he had he had to write them down on scrap of paper and handed to me Mr Lincoln Damn Fool Mars no sir that's a really but if you proceed with this course of action there will be strong evidence to the contrary as as I told the major when it comes to matters governing Mr Stanton is nearly always right and generally the sort of man who says what he means. Thank you Sir though I have my doubts this time round. I believe a change to our current strategies president so I would like you to write down your thoughts on the matter Sir to to help me understand your position. When would you like me to deliver the report now now. Sir Yes our yes Mr Mr President by the Way Marco. May I speak while you're writing distract you sponsor doc. I want you to know give some thought to our conversation last what conversation we were talking about. Using the supreme for you are the rock on which the waves of this conflict beating I honestly do not know how no you are not crushed beneath their wings. I can think of no man more deserving of the honor of a Lifetime appointment than you Mr Stanton and so after the war time comes. I'll be nominate don't want to say thank you. Thank thank you Mr President. I know it's been a livestream. Yes Sir but that's not why I'm doing. I'm doing this for one reason. One reason only because you've burned now when you finished with that report what up that piece of paper and pleased positive in the nearest wastebasket serve then ordered the generals to perceive with my strategy as I instructed you to do what was the point of me writing it. I always feel better after I've written out. My thoughts dented is my frustrations have been hope you will to send the order Mr Stanton right away. Take him you are very important to me and this country country will not disappoint. I know you won't in in eighteen sixty. 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Mike Espy

Two Broads Talking Politics

28:36 min | 1 d ago

Mike Espy

"Hi. This is teddy. In today you're listening to Mike, espy in Mississippi on onto bribes talking politics part of the DEM cast podcast network. Are. You listening. Thank. Everyone this is Kelly with two broads talking politics, and we are super excited today a to be on with Mike Sp Mike was the secretary of Agriculture has been a congressman in Mississippi and is now running for you as Senate so high Mike Alot Killian. Hide Sophie Them. Glad to be on with these two broads. Yes, indeed, so I wanted to jump in we're talking to you the day after your biggest fundraising day ever. So this is super exciting but I think a lot of people who are out of Mississippi probably think of Mississippi as deep red state still somewhat segregated and you know you've you've seen some great changes in Mississippi in your time there one of. The first people to integrate your high school? You were the first black congressman from Mississippi since reconstruction and Mississippi just now in two, thousand, eight hundred and finally changing its flag to no longer have the confederate symbols. So I wondered if you could just talk to them about the changes in Mississippi and wh what Mississippi looks like now, what you're seeing there. All right I will let me Let me describe all of it based on something that happened last week. So with the wind and mist of tornadoes in Mississippi storms and all of that like if way else but we get, we get all these. These storms coming up from the Gulf coast. So Alice Shaving I last week and Hurricane Sally was coming and I was listening in one ear to the news. The weather forecast and the national. Weather forecaster. And this person said circuit sal is coming. It's going to hit a landmass the between mobile and New Orleans. Not Start laughing us that's Mississippi you. Twists. So I understand you question a lot of people remember us as deep deep red and you know Quasar racist a racist but allow people have their own appease believe mischievous change a lot. You're right about a grownup of bit state. I was born and raised in state group Job Grow I. Remember Mama going until the clothing store and not being able to China address. Let she was prepared by it. Her name was really gene SB and I remember them saying gene. UBISOFT, not trump address alleged bypass no self-respecting white woman's on by the stress F you've tried it on. So I have a hundreds of any dotes in stores about about you know Jim Crow Mississippi in late fifties and sixties and seventies I did integrate along with my twin sister. Pu- high school that was formerly all white and this was about nineteen. Sixty, eight, sixty, nine, and there were seventeen blacks among eight hundred quite it was all awful every day on the inward I've got to find a flavor by teachers sprayed me one day with a Phar- extinguisher in class teacher. So it just it just wells so bad honestly I said once I graduate from this place I've never coming back missiles but I did I. went to Howard University Washington went to California Law School, but I did return then I became. Legal Services lawyer then first black assistant sector state first black assistant attorney general first black. Congressman. Civil war in addition levels not majority black. Abandoned Nineteen eighty-six then serve the nation as of agriculture in ramp eighteen months ago and got. Percents percent about so and rent it again, it would want one point down. So why why are we doing this? Will. Basically and I'm ask you question Mississippi is really a being at a pivotal moment I honestly this is not a dramatic statement we literally at the crossroads between. Moving forward. As a full partner with all the other states told the third decade of the twenty, th century are we going back? And fitbit costs we we had a legislative action a month ago with Mississippi legislature down the Mississippi black with confederate emblem. Sixty six years old I was surprised. that it happened at all in happened with that much haste. It's not it I. mean they aborted referendum in November so they just did it. They did it because. Their. Constituents are tired of that image of that hateful symbol. And they won't get rid of it. Closed above go through new chapter, turn the page and I believe that I'm a representative of the future. We can go to the past. Represented by my opponents. That's. Who made statements about. Both suppression at the other universities. It I keep asking which which universes all those you know. These are the issues that she won't name. The everyone knows statement about public hangings. The A. Lot of people don't remember her going. Till the Jefferson Davis. Memorial. Two thousand fourteen John on rebel hat. The river waistcoat and the confederate era she held a bitter. Rifle. That's all bad. Do you want to go to the museum? That's what his leg is now died no problem but or way out she said to them this is the best of Mississippi's history. Right that's two thousand, fourteen, not. Eighteen fourteen, hundred, nineteen, fourteen. So that's the choice we have. Whether you want to be. Someone. That's GONNA drag us back to the days of your a semester wants to push us into the digital with mitigate expansion. Dollar minimum wage paying teaches a decent salary. You know all of that. So so these all stock choices and that's why I'm running. That's why I'm running out. It's Var as. It'd be a red state I. Would you say to you? The only way I can answer that is to repeat something that Reverend Barber said. Reva Barbara's friend of mine from North Carolina but most people know him as the president of the poor people's campaign he's very familiar with these southern states and. The stagnant politics in these states and he said to me. Mike Mississippi is not so much red as it is on organized. Right. So what are you saying that? The National Democratic parties and? A lot of people like the ones you mentioned. Heaven invested in political infrastructure? Mississippi. So therefore for decades and decades, we've not had the revenue to get the data to do the targeting. To Fund the candidates to build the badge. And to do things necessary out to move us in what we do. So the Mike espy campaign. Can Be said to be related detectable state Democratic Party. Gus It it's incumbent on us in two thousand eighteen to do all of that you know only had. Seven months run from. From April to November eighteen months ago. And Run it twenty five years for anything. So we have a nasty candidacy, get the message together. Symbol staff raised money. and Get out there and do it, and we got four to seven percent of the vote and so. Would do to build the greatest database? In Mississippi's history today. And we share with the Democratic Party to run elect a bunch of progressive candidates in two, thousand and nineteen. There's full of black women. Who lifted the judges because Enhanced County we'll get cinema boat. fullback women, one judicial races, and so have bench down. And that's because we had a seventy seven percent turn out. Black voters but Mike espy. So night an absolute and voted for me and seventy seven percent turnout, and so the down ballot impact was huge. So so river Baba's right so if we had. Earlier investments of interested people into this race. in other races proud of mine. It would been easy for me to run. But that's okay you know I'm ready to serve not just be something but to do something. And and now it's working. So now we have one point down. We raised a one point, eight million dollars since last Friday. 'cause most people understand now because of Ginsberg's death, the risk to healthcare in America. And the the the great. The Great Act of devastation to pre existing illnesses the coverage for those. And Medicaid expansion that's going to happen to November with the new conservative justice on the bench for life. Oh. That's why we're getting out notice with great the fort. And we're doing well. I want to talk about Medicaid expansion a little bit I know Mississippi is one of the I think twelve states that has have not expanded. Medicaid and I feel your pain 'cause I live in Wisconsin, which is also one of the twelve. I was wondering if you could talk a little bit about Medicaid expansion and what that would mean for patients and for health care organizations in Mississippi. Look could expound on this for two hours. It is the number one issue now campaign because it is the number one problem in Mississippi. in by any measure. But a healthcare measure. we're we're last was a newspaper article last week that said missiles number fifty, one in the nation let's say there's all fifty states. Will they included the District of Columbia and we worse than than they are When it comes to just just bad healthcare outcomes patijn heart disease. Asthma. So both zone. So there's I mean, there's any number of ways that can be mitigated but I think the number one way in the public space is to expand Medicaid. Because because we don't have Medicaid. A lot of low income people in twenty percent of Mississippians are below poverty. Love Twenty percent admitted those African American persons. So when when they have the hill ailments, they don't go to the doctor. They don't involvement sales with primary care because they know they can't pay the bill. So they just. Remain he'll in the illnesses just just get worse. Or if they do go to the doctor, his use of the emergency room. And when they get a bill, they don't pay it and those bills aggregate. It increase the Royal Hospital. Is Behind the eight ball because now they'd given services. For uncouple day. Care it so they close. So consequently, Mississippi we've had seven eight hospitals to glows in last ten years. Saw Row communities are now without a core. Medical Service. Provider. So if we had Medicaid expansion tomorrow, we'll automatic cover over a quarter of a major Mississippi's automatically. Who would have covered and security of knowing they've got medical care. Ninety percent which would be paid by the federal government so I'll tell everybody. Johnston is was the senator full the modern NAVIEN senator. eastland was the senator Roger. Cherian dead cocker. Was Senator for Roy Development Agriculture I'm. GonNa be the senator for healthcare. So I do all, I can do expand Medicaid to give people the. Confirmation that that their illnesses can be covered more explicit boy expeditiously. Those hospitals could be. Covered, with uncompensated care. And up you know in in in all of that so. That's what I'm GONNA do. I'M GONNA do in in. That's while this campaign receiving such great notice because people no, I'm serious about it. I know that it is maybe a New Year in Wisconsin and you're not covered but. A. Lot of people consider this be a blue state phenomenon. Where you know California and Arizona kilts his gavel New York habit and sold the local legislators here. I think that this is an Obama being that's relegated only to blue states, but it's not true because Missouri in Oklahoma recently the rip random now have Medicaid expansion. So odd tale mud folks in Mississippi. Why do we? Continually. Cut. Out. Noses off despite out basis. Because we're paying taxes for all these blue states now conserved states we're we're paying taxes for that people. Have Medical Insurance Black. Why don't we spend our tax dollars to benefit us? So that's my pitch. You know I've got personal stories. And anecdotes that ACA chair with if if you WANNA hear them down. The main thing is that it's one issued Mississippi. I'm GONNA do this. That's why I'm running. I know there was a lot of talk in two, Thousand Sixteen and after twenty sixteen about how rural America felt really left behind and that was part of what drove the the vote for trump. You know I think rural America has been even more left behind under trump the effects of climate change and. Tariff Wars on agriculture have just been a terrible. You know you were the secretary of Agriculture this is obviously a huge issue in Mississippi. What are some of the things that you would like to see you would like to see the Senate doing to to really improve the ability of for farmers to make a decent living for our agricultural sector to really thrive. or as well this sweet spot it just hit it. Begs the question I was fortunate enough to be selected. By President Clinton as his twenty fifth cigna radicals, twin victor of nation I served I. Really enjoyed it but the nickname both sectors agriculture. Is the mayor of Rural America. So. I was the Mayor Role America for a period of time and First thing we did is I said, well, I'll wise being so ignored. And I try to elevate the rural development function of agriculture. To be as prominent as the production buxom, you know where we give. production loans, and and. Crop Insurance to farmers I try to elevate the road development function. which would be row water rural sewer rural Dell Communications row housing. Built an infrastructure real. America which will Saudi needed. Then we did all these studies and spent all the money to do that out of there were. Thousands of thousands of homes in America nineteen, ninety-three stay without running water. Now. That's prize me. I- Mississippi as shouldn't be surprised, but honestly, it's A. Prolific around the Americas so I said I'm going to. Go back to President Kennedy when he challenged the nation. To to be the first America would be the first land of Man on the moon. And be dialed. The US has off. So Union. And we did it. So I said, at Kennedy, fashion, we gotta have. In this agency by the turn of the century, we're GONNA, have every home in America connected zome robot it. We did it. So even though I was on a bit two years, we'd met that we met that goal and so heavily that every home in American ads running water because USDA initiatives. It we did that. so Proud that water sewer, rotter homes, and all of that. So now yes, mount tariffs. A lot of bombs situation a lot of the. A lot of the the Bakruptcy we've seen on the display in combination in the farm sector is because of losing markets. We're losing market because of terrace that this administration has imposed. On countries like People's Republic of China. Now, let's go here for men. He did this he being the. President trump did this. To benefit him politically. he pulls a tariff on steel and aluminum. Because he knew he's running and twenty twenty and he wanted. To to to help him politically in the states of Pennsylvania and Ohio and Michigan. The auto producers, the steel manufacturers, and so so so we did that. And I wrote an article called careful what you ask for because I, knew that when did that? China was going to impose retaliatory tariffs. In out allsteel in a moment, but it's going to be on things that hurt us here in. Mississippi like soybeans. Or China was out number one sorby market by far. and. So we impose that type child they turn around and slapped a tariff on soybeans. which made also expensive. We lost had market by large. And Brazil won also being competitors winning and bill that Lloyd and we lost that market. It's all the because we lost the market. There was Reduction in markets reduction in prices. And Farmers beans were landing to feel. Kitchen disease and. Losing big begun, becoming more surplus in nowhere to sell them so. So that's what he did and then he had to. Cover his his problem. By giving cash subsidies to farmers To give them my full Monday loss from their own productive evidence. That increase the federal deficit it gave from body get credit corporation. Has Gone on the bill, the tree dollar debt bill and didn't have to because the bomber just wanted a. To sell in so So you know. I believe in fair trade. Even, the bombers having increase in their markets. If, we have fair trade in increasing global markets. They're design because we're productive. Got Better technology than the and went into world and a bomber just Rona grow and harvest and sale. Two. Thirds of what they grow has be sold on international markets. Because one third of a is consumed domestically. So saw me and I'll be the senator. ISP What I would do so I, would certainly be a person who had jotted do all I can do to stop all these erratic. TERRIF- activity. I'll be designed to to help open markets on to beat our competitors. and. I Abby Thirty Senator Help America. So here's what I'm doing very quickly. As a private citizen which I want to bring into the federal. Budget. Federal programs so. As a private citizen as a volunteer unpaid percival last twenty years. I've been on a board of now. That I'm the Chairman of its nonprofit. which which involves itself in. Lipson enough. The bottom one third of low-income states in the mid south. Mississippi. Alabama Arkansas Tennessee Louisiana. So we go to the boys that states. It will four hundred, million dollar non profit. So we give. Mortgages burst I'm homeowners in those areas of about two hundred, fifty, thousand dollars. In New York. That's a closet Mississippi. It's a it's a nice three thousand square foot house maybe. We Fund business business loans. It medical land surveyors were committed bill clinics. Buddhis- will be, grocery stores. Now, we work also critic union the we put them in public schools. So the students get actually dig deposits from their teachers. I want to outdo new mountain text grades and empowerment zones and all that we're doing manatt profit would make it part of the. Treasury Department programs. To. So we have new tax credits for the nation but I wanna do is offer maybe like another dividend. If you will take your tax credit go to to. There's a term called parentally poor the districts that have been impoverished for three decades. In a row. I'll persistent. So so is that a poverty district? You get invest you get the normal tax credit plus extra if you go to these. Districts. I want to do that as the Senate. I think everybody listening is probably pretty fired up. To help out with your campaign. Can you tell us a little bit of about how people can? Help out with your campaign donate or volunteer if they live in Mississippi. Thank you. I will do that daily out the no. So the two days I'm going to do is Medicaid expansion but broadband McKinley at because they're so easy to do. I'll just like we brought rotter. America. You Know Nineteen Ninety three and night tonight at four before I left. Weaken a nanosecond. We can bring broadband connectivity ever. All House America. It's especially bad. Now condemning because a lot of students are working remotely from home and and is fine Gael Laptop. You don't mouse and and you can you can connect. But so many homes can. So they've got to go to the library Bernado community college if they can get to it. To get out there less and it's just awful. I mean a lot of love schools Mississippi have to have to put Wifi in a bus. It had bring the bus to ought to like a remote areas situated located. That a bus has keep moving. So two kids can can get the homework and and get the teacher at his crazy 'cause. It's so easy. With several billion dollars to do this which we have. So so I want to connect students and I, I know what I'm speaking about because of adopting a program calls global teaching project where. Students of Mississippi for. Rule schools. WHO ARE AP students in. Stem. Courses. Don't have Internet. To be, connected to their. Stem cost teachers at Harvard Yale. Princeton MIT and Stanford. So they have to go. Twice twice a month to to wherever they can get Internet. It would stem costs instructions from students that these teaches that these obvious leaks universities. And I, and then twice a year on Martin Luther King's birthday, and during the summer they all congregate physically the teachers come to Mississippi and the students come from rural areas and I'm beat them all at the universities and I give them a pep talk and head out blois and they have no internet mostly. So so I I feel so bad for their. These high performing students who just want to do well. They're working hard. They WanNa, get somewhere with their life and they don't have Internet Gus people my generation didn't provide for. So, this is easy. So I WANNA cook them all up. We're going to do that so now. What people do to help us go first of all to Sp.. Dot. com. It's easy to remember because that's espy awards is was ESPN. and. I gave birth espy award when I was sick Deroga- actually gave it award birth one. And I love that. So so the ESPN. Is Esp y will Senate Dot, Gov? There's a donate button there and you know is really expensive run these campaigns, whoever can whatever you can give? would be would be. Be Great. We've got one point eight, million dollars in. Since Friday and the average contribution was thirty, two dollars. So so whatever you can give is great. Job. Like you sophie but people have been writing postcards so you can write a bull Scott from Wisconsin or anywhere. You can text a, we have a, we have a prodigious text operation. From all over the world. a bone making operate not not the world excuse me all of the country. thinking about global and world class people like able able to Vernay. She's about new new blood. So she sat up a call time. She from Los Angeles, she's called it in Mississippi able to Rene. It's odd through her last night and told her thank you. So so you can eight Iraq does any number of ways text? Calling school new school ways we have to win we just have to win, but it does take money. Yeah. Well, we are so excited about this campaign I. Think it snuck up on a lot of people who hadn't watched in two, thousand eighteen but those of us who are watching in two thousand eighteen, this is this is not a surprise that you're gonNA cost finish line this time. So we're very excited. To run in to win now. we built that bridge. So there we can cross but also behind me can cross. You know I think we built shops data watch. It we know where we have to get to and looks like we're getting there as I say we will not in February. August one three days ago and we got a Palmdale now now they've been on television three weeks So I'm renting gets about WHO's uniquely awful. Honestly she she's. She's taken us back. Nobody wants to go back. That's why they voted flake. In they took a poll of Medicaid expansion and that's that's now six percent more. Those who voted in that in that poll. So we know where we have to get to and they want to help us get there in I. think that's that's me. Well thank you and we will put information up on our website. So people can find your website and can sign up to volunteer and donate. So Mike Thank, you so much for speaking with us today. This was was really great to talk to you like I said, we're super excited about your race and just can't wait to see it happen on election night. Got Down the road as we. Thank you so much. All right. Thank you. bye-bye. Thank you for listening to bras talking politics part of the dim cast podcast network. Our theme song is called. Are you listening off of the album elephant shocked trees by the Band Immune Nouri and we're using it with permission of the band our logo and other original artwork is by matthew wetland and was created for use. By this podcast. You can contact us at two broads talking politics at g mail, DOT COM, or on twitter or facebook. At to talk you can find all of our episodes at two bras talking politics, dot com, or anywhere podcast found.

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6.25.20 National parks, Christian schools, and a fallen officer

The World and Everything In It

34:00 min | 3 months ago

6.25.20 National parks, Christian schools, and a fallen officer

"The world and everything in it is made possible by listeners like us. My Name's John Brooks an Eye Rene Brooks. We live in Ashville North Carolina a work at voice, jungle and I teach weekly Online Bible Studies. This month is world's June giving drive a hope. You'll join us in supporting world's brand of biblically sound journalism by visiting W. Nj dot org slash donate. We hope you enjoyed today's program. Good Morning National Parks. Are Welcoming visitors again and there are a lot of stir crazy. People include me in that group. Anxious to get out of doors work somewhere beautiful instead of crowded Davis California. Also today Catholic schools are closing at an alarming rate this year. We'll tell you how Protestant and evangelical schools are faring. Plus remembering a fallen officer. Good man I love play phone general. School. Kids learn to thank the speak to the police and don't be afraid of. It's Thursday June twenty fifth. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported World Radio I'm Megan Basham Nick Eicher Good Morning. Up. Next Kent Covington has today's news. Senate Democrats on Wednesday. Blocked a Republican Police Reform Bill Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said it never had a chance. This bill lost. because. It was woefully inadequate. It never would have passed. The parties do have some common ground on the issue, but for now the legislation is stalled with Democrats refusing to agree to open debate. GOP South Carolina. Senator Tim Scott would have only three black members of the Senate wrote the bill, he said Democrats would have been able to help shape it through amendments if you don't think we're right. Make bad. Don't walk away. The GOP's Justice Act would have created a national database of police use of force incidents, restricted use of show, colds and set up new training procedures and commissions to study race and law. Enforcement House Democrats are expected to vote on their police reform bill as early as today. The biggest sticking point between the two parties is qualified immunity for officers. Democrats want to make it easier to sue them and civil court over misconduct Republicans say immunity must remain to protect officers from frivolous lawsuits. A federal appeals court has ordered the dismissal of the criminal case against former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, a panel of judges with the US Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, made the ruling Wednesday the decision turned back efforts by a judge scrutinize the Justice Department's decision to drop the prosecution flint pleaded guilty and thousand seventeen to lying to the FBI, but the justice. Department dropped the case following revelations of misconduct within the bureau, and then a two to one ruling the appeals court said that settles it. President Trump congratulated Flynn on Wednesday. Horribly very bad people. These things start to come out. But what happened to General. Flynn should never happen again at our country. The decision is a significant win both for Flynn and the Justice Department cutting short. What could have been legal fight? And the ruling comes as House Democrats scrutinized leadership of Attorney General William Bar. They are critical of the Department of Justice handling of both the Flynn case and the case of trump ally. And February DOJ leadership overruled federal prosecutors in the stone case pushing for a lighter sentence errands, alinsky was one of four prosecutors who stepped down from that case after the DOJ overruled them, and he told the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, what I heard repeatedly was that this leniency was happening because of stones relationship to the president that the acting US attorney for the District of Columbia was received heavy pressure from the highest levels at the Department of. And that his instructions to us. We're based on political considerations. Stone was found guilty of charges including lying to Congress and witness tampering the prosecutors recommended seven to nine years in prison, but after top brass at the DOJ intervened, he got a sentence of just over three years. The House Judiciary Committee announced Wednesday that Attorney General Bar will testify before the panel next month. Oklahoma reported a record one day spike in the number of positive covid nineteen cases Wednesday with nearly five hundred new positive tests reported. That is the third time in the past week that the state reported record. One day increases several other states also said single day case records this week including Arizona Mississippi Nevada Texas and California were Governor Gavin. newsom said nearly thirteen hundred people. People are intensive care. So icy numbers are increasing in the state of California not at the rate of hospitalizations, but eh clip of about eighteen percent several states also broke hospitalization records, including North Carolina and Governor Roy. Cooper announced Wednesday that his state will halt further reopening plans for now today. I'm announcing that North Carolina, we'll pause and continue our safer at home face to. For another three weeks. The United States just recorded a one day total of nearly thirty five thousand new cases. That's just short of the nation's late April peak of thirty, six, thousand, four hundred. A Georgia grand jury has indicted the three suspects in the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man in February prosecutor, joy at homes, announced the grand jury indictment on Wednesday outside the Glenn County Georgia courthouse. This is another positive step another great step for finding justice for a mind for finding justice for this family and the community beyond Travis McMichael. Greg McMichael and William Brian. Brian Junior faced charges including felony murder, aggravated assault and false imprisonment, and the death of twenty five year old Ahmad Barberie Travis McMichael claims. He fired in self defense, and his attorney said his client will plead not guilty. The McMichael's say they confronted rb because they believed he matched the description of a burglary suspect Brian's attorney maintains that his client only witnessed the killing. Amid escalating tensions on the Korean Peninsula North Korea said Wednesday that it is holding off on further action against South Korea world's Kristen. Flavin has that story. If he is all North Korean state media announced that leader Kim Jong. Hoon has suspended military retaliation against South Korea last week. The North declared that relations with the South had fully ruptured. It also destroyed a diplomatic liaison office along the border that was used for talks between the two countries and threatened unspecific military action. Pyongyang has expressed anger over anti North Korean leaflets that activists have floated by balloon. Balloon across the border it is also sought to apply pressure on South Korea amid stalled nuclear talks with the United States analysts say North Korea after deliberately raising tensions for weeks, maybe pulling away just enough to make room for South Korean concessions in a separate statement, senior North Korean official, said the future of inter-korean relations would depend on the South's quote, attitude and actions reporting for world. I'm Kristen, Flan. Camp Covington straight ahead, staying safe while visiting the Great Outdoors Plus Cal Thomas previews the fall presidential campaign. This is the world and everything in it. It's the twenty fifth of June, twenty twenty to have you along for today's edition of the world and everything in it. Good Morning I'm Megan Basham and I'm Nick Eicher. Well. If you count today, we have six days remaining so I've done a little math ear where eighty percent of the way through our June giving drive and right about where we need to be in terms of progress toward the goal. Goal so we are grateful for that so now, are you in eighty percent full kind of Guy Nacre twenty percent empty kind of guy. That's a good way to put it so I'll go with I'm definitely eighty percent full, but keeping a wary eye on that twenty percent. Oh, so that's a cop out right settlement of a cop out, but now you said it, so I don't have to. But seriously I I'm really encouraged by all the support. That I'm seeing and I will confess that I hit that. Refresh button a little obsessively, but you know as a co host here I'm just humbled by the enthusiastic support of our program, and as you said Nick, it's, it's important to express gratitude in the moment instead of just when the campaigns over. Over meaning that those who've given deserve our thanks right now and not just when those final dollars come in, so I want to add my thanks to, and I will encourage you if you've not given yet. Please head over to W. N. G. Dot org slash donate, and you can take care that twenty percent pessimist in me, so we'd we'd be grateful. Will I up on the world and everything in it national parks and the summer of covid nineteen so far corona virus hotspots of mostly been concentrated in urban areas with dense populations, meaning that popular travel destinations like New York, city or Los. Angeles may not be so popular this year. Instead families may opt for more rural destinations where they can enjoy the great outdoors, and there's no better place to do that than our country's national parks, world reporter Sara Sh- Weinsberg spoke with park officials to find out what visitors can expect it national parks this summer. It's a quiet sunshine filled morning in Wyoming's Grand Teton National Park. Some early rising hikers are starting to fill a trail head parking lot. More and his sister are two of them. More lives near Sacramento California, he says after a couple months of lockdown there. He needed a break from the city, so he came to visit his sister in Wyoming. Why don't work somewhere beautiful instead of crowded? You, know Davis California. We like camping. And we decided to come to Grand Teton National Park and yellowstone, because there's probably proportionately fewer people more would-be wearing a mask in Sacramento, but he won't be doing that on his hike today. He isn't really worried about catching the virus here. I feel like it's less necessary because it's outside. Epidemiologists say the odds of catching the virus outside our low elements like wind and rain along with summers, warm temperatures and humidity all affect the viruses ability to infect people. One Chinese study looked at more than three hundred covid nineteen outbreaks in the country. Only, one was transmitted outdoors. Even then only two people were infected. With that in mind, some national parks began phased reopenings in May and June. In a statement, the National Park Service says it's advising parks to follow their states individual reopening timelines. Christie anesthesia is a public affairs specialist with Acadia National Park in Maine. It's one of the top ten most visited national parks in the country. I, think a lot of people are attracted to Acadia National Park because it has some amazing coastline that's very unique to Maine. Maine's reopening plan allowed state parks to open June first. So that's when Acadia decided to unlock its gates as well. The two most iconic things that people have access to it Acadia national park, which is the bro drive in carriage roads those. Are Open now, but what is still closed at Katya and in many other national parks are indoor spaces like visitor, centers, gift, shops, and eateries as well as places where people congregate like campgrounds. Anesthesia says she does recommend people at serious risk of Cova complications where a mask even on the trails if they're outdoors and they can't keep a six foot distance to the next person then we'd recommend a face covering capitol. Reef National Park in Utah has steep, red rock walls and canyons. It seen visitation surge over the last decade. Lori Rome is a park ranger there she says Moore. Visitors means more bathroom breaks, and that means staff will be doing more cleaning than ever this summer. The bathrooms are cleaned on the cycles that the CDC Centers for Disease Control are recommending so ours are cleaned two times a day and they're checked. Several Times throughout the day will close one stall for twenty four hours us the other stall and flip flop back and forth, capitol. Reef opened its visitor center earlier this month, but rangers put up plexiglas on the counters and wear masks. Nearby Bryce National Park is famous for its spiraled rock formations called, Hutus. Peter Dens more is the public information officer there he says the visitor center is open, but has capacity limits, and the park has adapted shuttles. Only twenty visitors are allowed on a bus. At any one time seats have been removed from the bus, so the create. More distance between groups. You've got plexiglass barriers there for the drivers and you. bryce is also encouraging people to prepay entrance fees online to avoid exchanging cash or credit cards. It has reopened one of its campsites dens Maher says Rangers are closely monitoring how people interact there? Dana Soa is the spokesperson for Great Smoky. Mountains National Park another top tenor with more than twelve million annual visitors will. The thing is the diverse city, so we have over about hundred and thirty different species of trees. Great Smoky is divided between Tennessee and north. Carolina North Carolina has had a slower reopening face, so the park is following those stricter guidelines. So far four of the parks nine campgrounds have reopened along with its visitor centers. The park is concerned about overcrowding, so it's posted a video to help educate people about how they can social distancing park. It really focused on How'd you shoes drills overlooks? That weren't crowded so that you could proactively you know plan to have a less congested hike or less congested experience. If a national parks campgrounds are closed or limited park, officials recommend booking at private campgrounds, outside national parks or freedom camping in national forests or on Bureau of land management lands. National Parks also often have towns nearby were you can visit restaurants and grocery stores? A Katie Cristiana stages says whatever parking may want to visit this summer. It's important to know before you go. People need to do their homework. With the Canon can-do reporting from World I'm Sarah Weinsberg in Grand Teton National Park. Additional support comes from poverty encountered Los Angeles more poverty encounter dot. Org Discount tickets with Promo Code. World. Coming up next on the world and everything in it. Private school closures, even those who have not lost jobs during the coronavirus lockdown are looking at the future, a little nervously and cutting back on spending for some those cutbacks include private school tuition. Declining enrollment has forced some schools to close handful our private independent schools, but the vast majority are religious ones. Catholic schools in particular are bearing the brunt of the trend world. Correspondent Laura reports. The National Catholic Educational Association estimates that about one hundred schools have folded in the last month, or so they expect that number could double before fall. Many of the closures caught families off guard Megan August four boys all attend Academy of Saint Therese it offers classes in pre k through grade eight in the cresskill borough, which lies just north of Newark New Jersey along scenic stretch of the Hudson River. We always know. The risk is there. But when you have a community that so tight and that really? Flourish with each other, and we take pride in our fundraising and things like that. Not only do not expect it to come to your school, but you don't clearly don't expect during a time like like we're into today. See, Theresa's one of nine elementaries and one high school closing their doors this year in Newark alone. Cardinal Joseph Tobin explained the decision in a heartfelt letter to families in the archdiocese. He said the seeds of the closures were already planted prior to the pandemic. He described the closures as an irreplaceable loss to the community. Those? Irreplaceable losses are impacting other cities as well just outside Harrisburg Pennsylvania Lebanon Catholic school lost more than one third of its K. twelve enrollment over the last five years. The historic school has operated in the diocese of Harrisburg since the mid eighteen hundreds Bishop Ronald Gainer spoke with local NBC affiliate W. G. A. L. About the closure lease. No, this was not an easy decision for your pastors. Pastors nor for me, especially in the light of all the challenges, all of us are facing, but with the national surge in pandemic related job losses. Many families simply can't afford Catholic school tuition anymore. The average cost for elementary grades runs about five thousand dollars a year, but Catholic highschool can cost eleven, thousand dollars, or more annually and parishes that normally subsidize tuition for low income students are. are now strapped for cash. Because stay at home orders cancelled weekly mass and interrupted tithing the Catholic school closings will displace thousands of students nationwide. That's raising concerns about where they will land in a school landscape, already rife with uncertainty, but many communities still have private school options. Lynn, Swann is the chief strategy and Innovation Officer for the Association of Christian. Schools, International. It's surveyed. It's twenty three hundred. Hundred US member schools in April in our survey We asked the number of question about enrollment in about Newton inquiries, because those are often very good indicators of sort of the the health of the school looking toward the next year. Certainly schools do use those indicator for project into the future and what we found is that for the majority of schools they're re-enroll. Numbers were holding steady. and. So that's good news. Swarner said that unlike the nation's Catholic schools, the Association's Protestant and Evangelical Schools reported only a handful of permanent closings, instead most are using the public health crisis to expand into virtual and hybrid instruction, while many public schools fumbled for weeks with the transition to distance learning, eighty percent of a CSI member schools missed fewer than five days of instruction. Some even picked up new students along the way as families grew tired of. Of waiting for their local schools to provide lessons or are looking at how to be nimble in light of the changing environment, you know others are looking at offering, completely online programs for the first time whether it be to domestic students in national, and they're also looking to say okay. We have this challenge. Not only do. We continue to be sustainable, but the potentially. How do we reach more? Stanley's that maybe haven't been able to Christian education before. Meanwhile friends and alumni are rallying around some of the closing Catholic schools, praying and asking school and Church leaders for a change of heart administrators at the award, winning Academy of Our Lady Peace in New Providence New Jersey petitioned the archdiocese of Newark to reconsider closing their school the more than twelve hundred signatures and nearly five hundred comments. They submitted proved persuasive church leaders eventually reversed their decision giving the community back. It's beloved school efforts on behalf of cresskill. Saint Therese, where Megan August's boys attend did not have the same success. Their community mounted a fundraising and petition effort as well, but the archdiocese said that in their case the decision was. Reporting for world I'm Laura Edgehill. All right, so file this one under your said than done. You've probably heard a thing or two about corona virus restrictions. Probably you gotta do them. They're important. Even theme parks are doing their part, but in Japan. They are going for the gold, an association of thirty amusement parks. There is trying to ban. This! Yet, NO SCREAMING STOP! Just like that. They are asking guests to keep their mouths closed while on roller coasters again easier said than done right here. We can just press the mute button, and that takes care of it, but these parks they have to enforce silence on one of the world's tallest roller coasters, three hundred eighteen feet, but WHO's counting and another one that delivers speeds up to one hundred twelve miles per hour, so enjoy yourself, but keep it to yourself. It's the world and everything and. Today is Thursday June, twenty, five, twenty twenty. Thank you for turning to world radio to help. Start Your Day Good Morning. I'm Nick Eicher and I Megan Basham coming next on the world and everything in it the death of a deputy. Last week, mourners laid to rest a longtime law enforcement officer in a small cemetery in South Mississippi. World correspondent Kim. Henderson appointed the graveside service and has our story. On June twelfth the same day, a Wendy's parking lot in Atlanta made the news a parking lot. Two states away got some attention as well though smaller scale, it was the site of a routine prisoner transport gone bad. Radio Dispatcher Crystal Scarborough took the call at the Simpson County Sheriff's department. Just advise man. Some fan fired their. Told me that she thought I'd had an officer down. And rolled them everything I had. That's what we're trying to. Simpson County Sheriff Paul. mullins heard the call and made it to the scene in about three minutes. Paramedics flu deputy James Blair to a hospital where he later died. And the sheriff turned his attention to coordinating. What would turn into an all night manhunt? Some three hundred officers from across the state came to assist was really crucial in this setting up a perimeter and with that many people. You can get a tight perimeter to know. We had to use the dogs helicopters. They FBI sent a plane. Then twenty four hours, authorities captured the shooting suspect in a heavily wooded area. Many of the same officers who helped during the manhunt, soon returned to pay their final respects to deputy Blair. He had a fifty year career in law enforcement. Blair and his wife were raising three of their great grandchildren. Something County as a funeral for a deputy James. Blair was held this morning. The funeral took place at ten thirty that Wednesday. It drew a record crowd at Tudor funeral home. Later, mourner started the long drive to deputy Blair's freshly dug grave for nearly eight miles along the route. People stood beside the road, waving flags wiping tears. Kids put their hands over their hearts. Jj Smith wrote his Harley Davidson Electra glide classic as part of the procession. He's a member of the Patriot guard riders an organization that seeks to promote respect for fallen American heroes. Anger. That this could happen to someone like that. To have. Really. Then, you see. What else is going on in the world and it draws all this attention. I listened to a local radio station coming up here. Mention of it the whole ride up here seventy one miles and no mention. John, Griffith is a duty Piper for the Meridian. Police Department. Here arrived early for the burial, burying bagpipes decked out in a Scottish kilt. riff plays at about fifty funerals a year. Following ones are special just like the military killed in action especially. Thankfully, there's not too many of those. He says ninety percent of the time the family wants him to close out the service with amazing grace now play one verse Standing Probably Fifty Feet from the gray side and then. Play one or two more verses walking off into the distance and letting the sound just fadeaway members of the highway patrol's honor guard were on site to. Kurban Stewart waited in the shade as long as he could before suiting up in his thick dress attire, complete with special hat and white gloves on normally. We're here probably about two hours prior that way, we can assess the area. and. run through what we're GONNA do and make sure we do our part right because it's not about us. It's about the the person that's being memorialized. While the Honor Guard practiced. They got updates on the funeral procession. At twelve forty-six officials blocked highway five eighty, three to southbound traffic. A wall of fire trucks with lights flashing formed a border at the eastern edge of the cemetery. To the south one of those them, Blue Line flags draped across the chain link fence. When the white arrived at twelve fifty eight family members, wearing black took their seats. The preacher told them that James. Blair did not live his life in vain. He spent it serving others. Spent shells clinked against a nearby tombstone. The governor moved in close to say something for only the widow to here. To honor, guard members stood at the end of the casket and folded the flag side to side side to side. Corner by corner by corner. Joe Andrews is a Canine Officer with the Simpson. County sheriff's department. He knew deputy Blair well. I love people in general. Is Goal Deputy? Kids learn to. Speak to the police. Don't be afraid of. Andrews has been in law enforcement for sixteen years with all the national criticism coming right as he was in the middle of a man hunt while he was coping with the death of a fellow officer. Did. He think about quitting It's not A. It's not a job passion. No, we don't do it for the and went on to it for the glory. We do it because. It's a Colin. The conclusion of the funeral was something known as an end of watch call. It's when a dispatcher issues. A final radio call to an officer. In Twenty Bob. Lehrer? Blair is. In one! Twelve. Thousand Forty, Although he was one man, he laid his life down for. The win. When for? The. Right Proverbs Twenty eight. World on Cam Henderson reporting from Roost Mississippi. Today is Thursday, June twenty fifth good morning. This is the world and everything in it from listener supported world radio. I'm Megan Basham and I'm nick. Her commentator Cal Thomas. Says our preview of the fall presidential campaign that he saw. Did Not encourage him. President Trump's returned to the campaign trail last weekend provided a great opportunity to speak words of healing to a divided nation. It's too bad. We got toxic stream. Instead his lengthy remarks were full of self justification, said salted with crude language. He called one person, a son of a blank and frequently used other crude words that would have gotten my mouth washed out with soap as a kid. Let's hear his Evangelical Supporters Defend that language I've heard all the explanations. It's who he is. His policies are more important. He's God's chosen instrument in his nearly two hours of talking president trump spend thirty minutes talking about his commencement address at West Point. He rightly called out some of the media claiming he appeared to be sick because of the way he held his water glass. He said he was. was trying to be careful, so water didn't spill on his expensive tie, which was silk, then he demonstrated how he slowly walked down a ramp after the address, because he said the bottom of his shoes and the ramp were slippery. How does any of this matter? I was embarrassed for him? And for his smaller than predicted audience, which worship the applauded, but I sensed a little less enthusiasm. Yes, many of those supposedly one million ticket requests were probably reluctant to show up because of nonstop media scare tactics about the corona virus, but another factor may have been the president's predictability. We've heard versions of this speech before. How many? Many more times. Must we hear about his jawboning bowing into lowering the price for two new presidential jets? Don't we already know about closing the borders to travelers from China and why the racial slur about the corona virus did he think that was cute? A president running for a second term stake out his vision for the next four years, other than a list of twenty five judges, from which he promises to choose for federal benches, including the Supreme Court. There was nothing about what he would accomplish. In a second term, political attacks are always part of any campaign, but this president makes it more about personality and less about policy. Policy differences with Democrats. He only made passing references to what a Biden administration would do. Even though there's plenty to critique president, trump should take a lesson from Ronald Reagan who frequently referred to Democrats as our friends on the other side, he never diminished their value, but instead argued why conservative ideas are better. The presidency is an honor and privilege that has been granted to only forty five men in our history with great privilege comes great responsibility. We're better than this. We deserve better than this. The president's speech doesn't make Joe Biden more appealing. His remarks were unappealing, unattractive, and for me in the future unwatchable on Cal Thomas. Well, we are expecting Supreme Court decisions later this morning tomorrow. Our Legal Affairs correspondent Mary Reichardt. We'll have analysis for you also tomorrow. Trevon wax on culture. Friday talking. Cancel culture and a review of a mainstream documentary on the journeys of the Apostle Paul, look at the strengths and the weaknesses and your listener feedback I'm Nick Eicher and I Megan Basham. The world and everything in it comes to you from world radio. World's mission is biblically objective journalism that. That informs, educates and inspires well. 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