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"south american literature" Discussed on KSFO-AM
"Right at the register. That's my line. They want me to say that at the end Why? Because I'm the guy and I get that and don't say it. Don't say what with single care. You can save up to 80% on your Madge said it again and you left out right at the register. Well, isn't that part obvious and matter? You're still not the guy. Well, I'm a guy got Let's try it again. Try what again? It's hilarious is Charlie Sheen and his dad Mark Machine in a how to save money on prescription drugs. Commercial Charlie Sheen selling drugs, not on the drug winning Troll overlord winning. Pretty interesting rehabilitation if you'll pardon the expression of Charlie Sheen. Uh, well, I don't know, the more I think about it. It's a great idea. Advertising. I would pay attention to that ad. If I saw it on TV. I was just like Charlie Sheen. What is he talking about dealing with Madame deal with full controls. There's a period of like a couple of weeks there where we did it. Charlie Sheen update every day. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And I am vividly remember predicting on one Friday he will be dead by Monday. Well, I would have never thought he was gonna pull out of that spiral. We are high priest. I mean, Vatican Assassin Warlocks 20 years ago was that Oh, Lord, you know, I think it's I think it's about 10 or 11 because it was I think it was the year the Giants won the world serious because he was friends with The beard. Oh, so in Ryan Wilson 2011 was his one man show thing that happened after all of you. So I'm just gonna bring that up. How? At the height of the fevered interest in Charlie Sheen with his whole wedding and And and and all thing. He he unleashed this paper view. What was it? It was live events. He would live event traitors and they would show it was 2010 or or with his buddies. He do it from his house, and we actually watched one and it was It was a nutter. Idiotic waste of time. It was just it was like a bunch of adolescents who thought they were clever putting together an ad libbed showing it was boring and stupid, but any survived and I got poetry, my fingertips. Speaking of stupid Winning Tim Sandefur retweeted this and got my attention. Massachusetts teachers says she's very proud to have removed Homer classics from school curriculum. Oh, yeah. Massachusetts teacher says she's proud We were removed Theon ISI by homer from the school curriculum curriculum list of list of things they read. Uh, And it's part of a group. Disrupt texts, a movement that is going to rebuild the literary canon across America using anti bias anti racist critical literacy lens. Yeah. You know, some other purposes seem reasonable to me. It's just that the people doing it are crazy. What's the problem with the Odyssey? What? Yeah. And what and what border They're good purposes. I don't know the good purposes. I only know the bad stuff. Well, I'd say maybe in large inning the range of things that people read, incorporate, you know, South American literature, African literature, that sort of thing just to give you a more global view. Don't have a problem with that. But again, the people doing it full on woke lunatics, and you should probably add, as opposed to subtract. Sure, I don't know if you need to eliminate things that have been around for 2500 years. Seemed to have been pretty interesting toe much of Western civilization all that time. The problem is that if you start looking at anything prior to roughly 2017 Um Through the lens of today. It is problematic. It's not gonna pass the test, right? Getting back to banning Huck Finn. You remember when it was the left? Who thought it was crazy to ban literature. I was a changed. Yeah, well, that was part of Tucker Carlson's thing last night. The house now wanting to do away with, you know Mom, Dad, son, daughter. And he said, I thought it was the left. That was in, you know, various individualistic qualities. Now you just want to be kind of generic parent, right? Generic sibling Well, and I wish I was his eloquent is the person I first read saying this, But if you The left. The progressive left at this point is denying essentially that there is such a thing is a woman. Ah, woman is anybody who says there a woman some man who menstruate story? Woman who ejaculated or whatever. I mean, just you can make it up. So if everyone can be a woman, there's no such thing is a woman and discrimination against women. Just be a man and the discrimination. I'll stop. Well, wait a minute that they didn't Don't understand. My social teacher told me it would. It's just It's so bizarre. It's it's anti enlightened. It's denying that there can be unfairness toward people of a certain sort by claiming anybody could be anything all the time and then back to the literature. Part of it. It was Tim Santa for the printed and I should dig up the article and read from it causes so darn interesting a guy writing about all the English programs across the country there are now none. There are no English programs in America, really literature programs and any of your universities that aren't about deconstructing all the great literature. It's only deconstructing well, its own. It's only read to figure out the flaws. How horrible it is. It's red to be condemned. Yeah, you're only reading it to point out how awful it is right that it's really quite amazing. So all the stuff that has stood the test of time of Decades, centuries and millennia. In some cases, the only reason they still read them at all is to say, Look how racist Shakespeare was right. Well, Sergeant, a Shakespeare wasn't the next step is you just eliminated right? Exactly. And the next step after that, as you make it illegal. To read or to share that sort of stuff, and that will happen. It will absolutely happen unless y'all fight it. I've had an interesting conversation with my kids about the n word recently. Hmm. They're not aware of what it is. But they've heard off an n word. That is the worst of all words. And because they're you know, boy's of age. Now nine and 10, you know, cursing and bad words. It's kind of a thing for sure. Kids, roughly that age looking up, swears in the dictionary, and so you know, you come across a worse, more shocking one on the playground or whatever. But now that now that they've been told that there's there's the granddaddy of them all out there that you can't even say what it is. You have to refer to it by a letter. They want no import and I and as just trying to explain to them that Um You don't want to say this isn't something to mess around with and and you know, it's serious body. The I can't say I can't say it. I can't say it because if somebody hears me say it and says that I said it, I could lose my job. I mean, they're having trouble wrapping your head around it and they should They should trouble wrapping my head around it. And yet, kids and yet you can hear it 50 times on your favorite rap record. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. Well, yeah, well, we didn't do the story. This was a big one during the breakout on if he came across this, the girl who Had done a tic tac video and dropped in in bomb. Oh, yes, singing along with the song. No, it was the one I saw..
"south american literature" Discussed on KCRW
"This is a show with Jay Parini. Jay Parini has written many books, but I think this is the most extraordinary. I got a call from my friend and Beatty. Telling me that I ought to re jape Marini's new book called Borges and Me an encounter It's published by Doubleday. And from the moment I began within 20 pages, I couldn't stop reading. You might say, Yeah. Yeah, I'll just bet a literary book about for no. Jay Parini. Had gone to Scotland. To escape. The draft during the war in Vietnam. He was a graduate student there. A poet named analyst. Reed, who frequently wrote essays for The New Yorker as well was his mentor. Analysts to read was translating the poetry of war. Hey, Guey Borges. Together with Borges. Reed had a family crisis had to go away and left Jay Parini, who had never really heard of or read Borges. To take care of Borges there in Scotland. What was the first encounter like? I frankly had never heard of Borquez. Alistair had mentioned that there was this wonderful Argentine writer coming and but I didn't know who he was. And you know it wasn't that interest that I was interested in my own writing. I was interested in my PhD thesis, which I was trying to push through. I was interested in avoiding the Vietnam War. I was just beset with problems. And I had a woman that I would like to have been my girlfriend that I was chasing around Scotland and rather stupidly and badly. I was completely I was, you know, 21 22 going on 15 or 16 emotionally. I'm afraid I was really, really, really immature. And then Alistair calls one night, says J. Can you please just look after boar case for a little while? As you know, he's blind. But I've got to go away and I sort of said Yes. Yes, and I had just bought this 1957 rust bucket of a Morris Minor and I turned up at Alistair's house and Alice is said by J took off with his son, Jasper. And bark. I said, Oh, it's so good to see you, Jay Parini, he said. I Haye said, Are you related to the poet? Just up a Bahraini? I said No, I don't think so. He said. I'm going to call you just happy if that's all right. I said I'd rather j No, no, you're just happy. And he said, Listen, I hear you've got this wonderful car. I said yes, It's a little Morris Minor. He said. Oh, good. I have to meet a man. It's very urgent up in Inverness in the highlands. Can you drive me there? He said that and he said on the way I want to see Scotland I said, But Borges, you're blind, He said. Oh, no, Jay, don't tell me you're blind, too, said No, I'm not blind, he said. Good said. You will describe the highlands to me. I've always wanted to see them and he said you, Alistair says. You want to be a poet you've got to learn to describe, he said. Poetry is simply description and description. J is a revelation. I said Fine, Fine. So we took off the next morning in my car and drove to Inverness and looking stopping at various sites along the way. And I never thought of this is the book. Michael, I've got to tell you. This is 50 years ago. And I've been telling anecdotes about this to my students and friends and family for 50 years, Every little incident has come back to me in a dream again and again. On. I only just recently got the idea from another friend that I could try toe write it out, and I did and my word it just flowed out. It's not like reading J. It's like gliding First of all and second It is a road novel. You've written a road novel starring you at 22. Borges was hell old 71 going on 72. Which is what I am right now. As I wrote the book. Well, when I was in junior high school, we were all of us, given the opportunity to decide to choose Between learning Spanish and learning French And all those people who chose to learn French. We're very lucky because they could read no exit by Jean Paul Sartre eventually or the stranger by Camus. But gradually, it emerged that there was a whole contemporary Spanish literature in South America really beginning with Borges before that time. South American literature, as I was given it to read was about drainage ditches. It was really shockingly dull, but Borges comes on the picture. And shakes everything up both in short stories and in poetry, But birthplace seemed to me at the time. To be the most intellectual of intellectual writers. Sedate, restrained and the Borges we meet in shape. Corini's book. Borges and me is anything but sedated and restrained. Your face. Is this much a madman as well? Whitman? He's inventing himself is he goes along, He's inventing the world of literature. Tell me about that, Borges. I've kept a journal since 1965 and I have been a pretty fanatical journal keeper. So I went back to my little road trip with Boris and to see what I could find, and I found bits and pieces. Whole conversations. I just wrote down the conversations. And the very first one was when we pulled into AA a bar in Lower Largo, which was the home of Robinson Crusoe. Alexander Selkirk by by name, because Borquez was very keen on Crusoe and wanted to go there and see the home of Alexander Selkirk Crusoe. And we went into the pub, which was called the Robinson Crusoe on Borges. I said so and I knew I was going to be on the going all the way with the Inverness with poor case and I said bark is, um What can I get you? He said Ah, Typical Scottish beer. I don't drink. I never drink in my life. But I'm going to drink this time. I feel like I must I said Okay. I got him a pint of export. Brought it to him. And he's totally blind. And he doesn't put his finger in the in the beer and swirled it around and then suck it. Slurped it office finger and I'm a little bit O. C D and I couldn't stand it. And I thought Oh, my God! God almighty! I'm stuck with this old blind guy. And why did Alistair do this to me? And here's what I wrote down in my notebook, and I wrote down. I said to board just a conversation. I said So, Mr Bork know, Mr No, Mister, please. Just Borges. I said okay. Barker's bar case, Alistair tells me you're a writer. And he said a writer on Alistair, He's always exaggerating. I said. So. You mean you're not a writer? He said. No. I'd write these little tiny short stories or essays. I don't even know what they are in a few pages. And I said, Well, how many novels have you written? I'm already dismissing him. He said novels Dear Boy never never wrote even one novel. I said, Well, tell me, Borges did you never want to write a novel, he said J. J Jews, Evie my whole life. I dreamed I would write the great novel of the pompous in Argentina, and there would be guard shows and there would be wars and there would be beheadings and there would be murder and there would be frat aside and mattress side and patricide. T. J Listen to me, generations would rise and fall decades would come and go. And he stopped and looked wistfully in the distance. And I said so, Borquez! What happened? Why did you never write this? Said J. After 30 Years one morning I got up. And I went to my desk and I wrote a 200 word review of this novel and that satisfied the impulse. In addition to being a genius. And a madman. Or hey, Guey Borges. Is an old man. He waas. What's true of old men? Went on a road trip. You need to stop. Very often. So the elderly man Needs to take a pee. It's just inevitable if its not infrequent, either. Maurice and AC told me that he and Philip Roth Met each other when they were walking on Westside Drive in the bathroom because both of them needed to take a pee, and that's how they met. Once again we have a young man. A young student of literature who has no idea That Borges is probably The greatest and most original writer..
"south american literature" Discussed on KCRW
"It is one of our greatest love affairs a relationship that humankind has with the simple bread crust or cauliflower crust yes I hear you covered with sauce and whatever else you can throw on there but LA LA does not have much street cred when it comes to pizza cities like New York and Chicago have their own distinct pies what about LA I know just the person to talk to about this motor homes a regular contributor to greater LA who writes for either LA hi Mona hello Steve correct me if I'm wrong by the way does this LA have a pizza scene or any particular style like I don't I don't go to other cities in the world and it's like Hey I want to LA style of pizza now anyone but there there's not a traditional style of pizza for Los Angeles but we certainly have a ton of it right now we have a ton of pizza that server absolutely and a ton of it that's really really good but there is this myth out there all right what what's the myth okay so the myth is that if you live in Los Angeles the city does not have good pizza and it usually comes from the mouth of someone from New York Chicago or San Francisco and that that Ellie peace will never ever amount to these aforementioned especially San Francisco we can't ever live up to San Francisco for some reason your records to mad men and and I'm probably I'll hit my Twitter mentions in a moment but new Yorkers are always ready and willing to make the argument that Ali doesn't have good pizza and but they're ready for a good fight whenever it comes to defending its home turf and this is absolutely the case with that so no particular style of pizza but LA does have a lot of establishments that serve pizza absolutely I mean there we we do have some little quirky spots like there's one place in Long Beach unfortunately it just close last month but they decided to do Cambodian pizza and it was absolutely wonderful there's a place in it just outside of town that does be area pizzas which is that wonderful Mexican stewed meat that's very saucy I have no idea how it turns out but it's been getting great great reviews you you said earlier that alleys pizza scene became established like in recent years it's been it I mean for the longest time we really didn't have a scene and now we do give us an idea of when and how that happened okay so I here's my theory and I thought I'd say that it is tried and true Nancy silver ten the wonderful shaft and Joe Bastianich open P. three months in two thousand seven and Nancy is that an award winning innovative shaft and what she was doing with pizza was wood fired and also very very new for Los Angeles celebrities went their actual Dodger players went there everyone wanted to be there and and so she I'd say like establish the bar and then in two thousand eight there was another wave of Gillian and Venice that along with eight hundred degrees and then in two thousand fourteen two thousand fifteen with places like Soto by chef Steve Sampson who owns Ross of blue and superfine pizza in downtown but but these were all like the beginning but it didn't really hit until two thousand seventeen two thousand seventeen so that was like the key here in LA pizza history yes Sir I mean is that with the wikipedia page also I I would are arguably I'd be really hard to find food writer to say that piece on opening in Brentwood wasn't the beginning Sano yes yeah and it was such an unlikely everything like from the location in Brentwood the in the Apollo and style the wood fired pizza Johnson goal the late Jonathan gold thought it was outstanding and arguably the top spot for peace in Los Angeles off if John of the goal had something to say about absolutely help Helen I'm sure but then from there we just exploded with new pizzerias throughout the south land and pretty much always made from wood fired oven so today we are twenty twenty what what does this awesome landscape of pies look like in Los Angeles along it be hard to like for example I'll take Melrose you know rose between Robertson and la Brea or highland offensive starting with months out at the east end and with the Chinese at the at the west and on Robertson and we hope you yes in west Hollywood and you can walk down that strip and you would stumble over a ton of pizzerias that make outstanding pizza so there's places like ronin Spartina blackbird pizza all in that strip there's also even of fairly new comer antique a pizzeria and this is the same one that was most what was first noted it but we eat pray love novel and movie in Naples there's also referred to as it's a wonderful New York transplant Culver city and you know there's just you really can't get away from it right now like it we really and not to I mean I've mentioned all of these places but they make outstanding pizza the could absolutely stand up to our rivals for sure so what's your favorite spa you know I I kind of mentioned it in passing but it really does have to be were repaired as in Culver city is the shaft Harlem around she he he just manages to make pizzas with perfect crossed and toppings that just hit just do it for me save the best for last yeah and then the five the vibe in the room you go in there and they're playing the Ramones they're playing hip hop there play all kinds of things and it's a really bright sunny space that just makes you want to smile so it has all the elements for me what are we having for dinner huh you know area motor homes one of our regulars here greater LA reporter at either LA Mona thanks thanks Dave by the way what's your favorite pizza place what kind of style do you like does LA half a pizza style check us out to Casey are W. dot com and let us know KCRW dot com slash ask greater LA so while you're there subscribe to the podcast to would love for you to have us in your inbox each and every day will send it to you right along and you can share your thoughts with us there that is going to do it for us today next week Kobe's memorial thousands will gather will take you there a 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C. or W. in case you are W. dot com I'm Michael silver bullet and this is for quorum one of the joys on the path of the reader is seeing a name that you see for years and years who is this person as we know today this person who we hear of and don't know is likely to be a woman who's been neglected this woman Silvina compo was considered to be one of the great unknowns of south American literature she worked with or who we sport is when he was putting together his collection of fantastic literature working on the anthology is will was her husband be only because solders who ruled a book the more he's praised very highly the invention of Morel I'd read Borges and Casares as a young man but until recently I had never read much to my discredit Silvina cumple now I can say in my defense the two of her books a novel and a book of stories have just been translated and published by City Lights press many people no City Lights bookstore do you will soon know that feeling good he has a press attention to that bookstore yes there is a press and they have published so venal combos forgotten journey which is a book of short stories but if I am not giving away too much the forgotten journey is the journey of the woman to the world this is a journey none of us succeed in remembering completely he I did not remember it Borges he saw the Silvino comparable had the gift he said of colorful wins and so now we have to for ruling books forgotten journey a book of for short stories and on I mean the longest is six pages and then a novel called the promise and we say an awful because it is probably the longest thing she wrote but it's barely a hundred pages I have three translators here who have been working on solving no cumple and they are just some of the translators who were working on Silvino cumple because she's a bell to be the discovery that we have all been waiting for it's very exciting and one of the scenes translators is the more frivolous Susan June we've seen who goes by the name June Levine many of you will know as soon as like telling you that she has translated comparing phone today Julio Cortez or Carlos Fuentes mon will we several served we hand Bielik US solders and she's translated a great deal of poetry for more than forty Brooklyn's translations she is the dean of Spanish self American literature in translation with her or to people who've been her students and who worked with her on each of these two books Jill hell did you come to know Silvina compost work well I came to know so there's a combos work because I had the good taste and look to me is amazing a literary critic when I was very young in New York name the mirrors are you guys want to go and he with him I was down in Argentina and together we went to the house like us are as in a combo of they were married they were married and so I met them for the first time but of course I had already heard of them because I studied you know Latin American literature in college and and I was in graduate school that time so but getting to meet these people was like so exciting you know it's sort of like meeting gods you know it when your student you're studying these people you know it's like absolutely amazing did you also meet for Chris of the time I actually met him the year before because he was what to yell to give a lecture and Yvonne won't fly was there also sue venal cumple about when we're speaking Bianca saris and on who wi borders were triumph of sorts once the married for fifty years he continued to be their dinner guests and you know he as I said he said of her that she was clairvoyant she didn't take many photographs she did not want to be photographed when you see a picture of Silvino cumple it's not unusual for her hands to be crossed in front of her face and it fast if you were going to this with that party she would sing with this song we face Jessica Powell you started to read zero fina under the direction of Joel Levine.
"south american literature" Discussed on KCRW
"Silver, black this bookworm. And my guest today is clearly a Regis her novel published by catapult is Kunsi monsters. I founded. Wonderful fascinating. And it's a novel. That's written. According to certain impulses. That are rather. I think mysterious the surface action of the book is that a young woman runs away from her home in Roma in Mexico City with a boy Thomas, and she goes to Oaxaca to coastal town. What's the name of the town seep alita? Cba lead. And. She's not very interested in the boy, she's interested in the movement of life, which becomes repetitive. Resonant and significant the things she sees around. Her are things that she's also learned about in. Her father's study. She has learned about shipwrecks. And therefore, she knows about seem monster is the title of the book. Now Cohee Regis you have a PHD infringe poetry and magic which has led you to the beautiful poems about the sea by Baudelaire. The book contains many shipwrecks within it. Damaged aquariums. Lost objects at the bottom of the sea. So that when you read this book, you're reading the surface that conducive to depths. Tell me about this wonderful depiction of it. Well, yes, starting with the cranium in her home idea of of framing certain wild, visions and fantasies and aquariums. As fragile ecosystems, I suppose doing lessons, it's a time. When one can. Act upon one's fantasies or try to reenact them or fines, give them new forms and the real world. And so my character runs off to the beach and then realizes that. The motives that drove her there. No longer. Interesting. She's come to the beach at night, she discovers that the way to live is in hammocks that are strong by the ocean side, and she in this young man, he's lightly older than she is. But only slightly two years are sleeping side by side in hammocks by the ocean watching the seafoam, which is the guman aided by night. And it seems to her that this is the poetry that the C writes this is the seas message. Why wanted to give the book certain fragmentary for forum and the way I structured I tried to mimic certain title rhythms and have mirrored her own oscillation between while different kinds of longing. And then being there, and then thoughts of home and feelings of guilt that she tried to keep at bay. Succeeded. Most of the time, well, you were born in Mexico City in my right while I was born in New York, and then spent my childhood in Holland and then moved back to Mexican. I was seven I see some Mexico City is home and your father was a diplomat. Is that how it was that you were living in so many places? Yes, mexico. Like descendants writers abroad as diplomats, sir. And your father is a poet. And you've translated some of his work because this book is about generations and bound what lies at the bottom of the world for centuries. And so the book has certain both novel Listrik and autobiographical elements lying side by side. And so the book keeps recurring back on itself in very exciting ways. This is. No, we are religious reading from the shipwreck section of her novel. See monsters. The C up until then my father's only way of interesting in the ancient world had been through shipwrecks. That was how he drew me in made me feel occasionally connected to the ancient shipwrecks fall prey to all sorts of appetites. He said Dabbagh tight of saltwater appetite of secrets there's that tight of time in the Mediterranean. There are three main saltwater macro organisms that share fondness for agent timber the ship worm the would Pittock and the marine Griddle all three contribute to the stratification. And contamination of the wreck. These marine bores are able to endure even the harshest conditions can adapt to nearly every depth water temperature and salinity are their main gauges. Marine griddles more sonorous Lee known as the Norea tunnel into the wooden pairs with the female forging ahead sharp-clawed and seven legged they are found in most marine and brackish waters often present in large numbers the channels. They create run parallel to the service of the wood and tend to communicate rendering an infested vessel even more vulnerable to corrosion, though. Dave roam freely Gables have hermit like instincts and are loath to leave. Once they've scottsd- in the boroughs. They've created why move home when you have a roof and an endless supply of wood peace and quiet. The ship were meanwhile is a bivalve molluscs without shaller gender that changes sex as it grows. Also known as the termites of the c ship worms are less endearing an appearance than cripples with long, slender bodies and heads that resemble gaping mouths in service of an insatiable appetite that incessantly combs the water their bodies become longer as they burrow. They've a calcareous deposit in their wake and finally the would Pittock unlike the other to the Pittock unable to digest, cellulose it seeks out would not for nourishment. But as protection from whatever dangers the sea may present its boroughs are shallow and spherical it attacks in big groups like the ship worm. The Pittock is bisexual and similarly content to remain in its chambers. Want satisfactory lodgings have been found? The job of these organisms is made easier in the yielding of submerged wood, therefore swifter, thanks to the handiwork of to micro organisms found guy and bacteria break down the tissue before the others come to dig their channels along with this array of woodbourne creatures and the lesser counterparts. Wave action adds to the process of demolition, the movement of water as well as the movement of the seabed as the sound shifts and resettles furthers the toll on the sunken vessel. How to ignore the tragedy of the wreck like that of a carcass in a wildlife program. No longer breathing yet under continued assault. Once the mortal blow is dealt a host of scavengers moves in. But I also cheer for these aquatic hermits would found a home. This thing to my father described as scenario made me feel I had access to something for generally distant, and mysterious and other various wrecks. He mentioned his favourite and soon mine was that of anti-catholic which lane at the bottom of the ocean for twenty centuries. For twenty centuries the ship in its contents have remained at the mercy of tides currents organisms and upwelling the twenty centuries they lay silenced. Kuri Regis breeding one of the more tactical passages from her novel see monsters now that's action doesn't sound like the rest of the book. I'm warning my listeners, you're not going to be reading about the termites of Z. I have to say when I came on that phrase. I just laughed out loud. They are known as the termites of the ocean. And our narrator. The we saw. Is finding metaphors for her own life as she looks about the world. Yes. Well, I think adolescence so much a constant negotiation with the south and transformation. So it's a time when you're building your own imaginary and some of the poetry music. Conversations at dinner with parents feed into this in a world that you're building. And so in her case in particular, she is actively looking for metaphor and finding that some many of these different elements in her life somehow talk to each other in mysterious ways, her favorite teacher is her French teacher, and he gives her the opportunity to read poetry by Baldur and each student has to pick a poem to analyze and she picks visas seat, their voice to throw which is about the place where the goddess evolve was warned, and of course, what adolescent wouldn't want to know where I was born. And her teacher has told her that she's got to look in the sea to find the birth of love and so much of this book has to do with leaving central Mexico. Mexico City is and going to the coastal cities. And this is where in many ways, she does discover mauve and also doesn't. She's fascinated. You know, she reads in the newspaper that there's been a troupe of Ukrainian dwarfs defected from Soviet circus. Yeah. That was touring Mexico. And she's running away partly to find the Ukrainian warps. I mean. That is based on a no we found in the paper at the time. And so it just it for years after his haunted me, and my family what happened to these doors and my father, and I actually went to the newspaper to the archives. There's never any follow up. But I thought I have to put that in the book, and because my character is fascinated by. Soviet the Soviet worlds and circus cosmonauts. I'm talking to Kelly Regis. She's the author of seem monsters a novel. But it's like a novel built the west sun. It is built it's it's built out of image that comment on one another and build until they come to a kind of well, shall I say conclusive inconclusive? Now, what interests you about the inconclusive aspects of the book? I felt that was that was a very much. What I wanted to create was leaving at and I think an author of my novels, but particularly in this one what took the longest was to find the right form for it. But within that forum, I wanted to leave a lot very open and with an undetermined, and I think even there's a lotta mom, for instance, who was proto less than because he was older why and then returns while came to France. But the he he had many hybrid creatures in his work. I went to school in Buffalo, New York and one student said well the songs of door. This is what you said by rote Ramon. I've never heard of it. Oh, the surrealist classic. Prior to surrealism written buying a person who died by age twenty four. He was yes from Uruguay. And this for many people is a comment on the relationship between South American, literature, and surrealist French literature. Carlos Fuentes has a whole north of distant relations, which involves this look for mom becomes a figure in Simone stirs as well. Because he is so young. And this is a book about adolescence who were seeing deeply into everything they see and Louisa meet someone she thinks of as a see what's the Merriman Merman. Yes. And she drinks with him at night. They share a table frequently not speaking. He's very silent. She knows very little about him. But she is falling in love with him leaving the boy she ran away with behind to become fascinated by her murmur. And that that was something of that. I thought about a lot of doing adolescence there's a constant redrafting of fantasy so one week someone fits the fancy in the next week you're projecting onto the next character. And so in this case with the Merman, she envisions embassy mysterious eastern European or maybe even rushed into appeared on the beach. She has no idea where he disappears to every night. And she finds out and is disappointed. But by this time, her father has come to look for her. And her parents have been very frightened very worried an inferred as you heard in the passage. It's her father who's taught her about shipwrecks and about sea creatures Annabel things that last centuries beyond their overdue date. Exactly that that some I'm bringing a mythological elements to one's personal history. I'm Michael silver blunt. You're listening to bookworm from studios of KCRW. Am talking with cooling a religious about her wonderful novel seem Munster's will continue after this short break. Support comes from UCSB arts and lectures, presenting author Susan orlean conversation with pego wire March.