20 Episode results for "Sousa"
Season Two Trailer
"Hollywood let's face it sometimes in this industry things. Just don't go according to plan. And so when he looked hit on the back of the head with it. He goes down, and you still filming stopped, and and he really ends up look horrible concussion. But the key thing is to be able to see what's right in front of you. I opened my eyes. I'm got ice. I saw three three goes in front of me. Well, maybe you don't wanna see that. But when it's all over take time to reflect on what went wrong. What didn't go with that much? This executed. I mean, there are just so many things the industry season. Two is coming this summer checkout. Sousa one right now wherever you get your podcasts or at the industry podcast dot com.
Obama's White House Photographer on What a Biden Presidency Might Look Like
"Brought to you by lucky charms magical mission. Let lucky the Leprechaun take you and your kids on an interactive adventure through the eight magical charm lands to restore magic available on your smart speaker. Just say open lucky charms, magical mission or search for it wherever you listen to podcasts. What would a Biden Presidency look like? Obama's White House photographer picks six photos offer clues by Annabelle Guterman. For. Years Pete Souza the former chief official White House photographer of President Barack Obama stayed behind the camera. But in the way I, see it a new documentary from filmmaker Don Porter the lens trained squarely on him the film and select theaters on September. Eighteenth and premiering on MSNBC on October ninth focuses on his work during the Obama administration as well as the years he spent photographing President Ronald Reagan. What I was trying to do was look for these Authentic Moments Sousa tells time about his tenure in both administrations the fleeting moments that not only reflect what's happening in front of you but that reveal what the president is like as a human being. In recent years Sousa has become more outspoken particularly about his own feelings on president trump on his instagram account where he has more than two million followers there. He shares photographs from his time in the White House many of which are accompanied by snarky captions that compare the current president to the previous one. The popularity of his account led to the two thousand eighteen publication of his most recent book shade a tale of two precedents. He goes even further in the way I see it revealing moment of his personal life onscreen. This puts me in a more public flooding, which is a little uncomfortable for me Sousa tells time but at the same time, I couldn't not agree to do this film. I feel. So strongly about the institution of the presidency and how it's being ripped to shreds by this guy. Sousa. Hopes that viewers of the film control connections between both Reagan and Obama through their appearance and photographs. Whether you agree with their politics or policies, they're decent human beings and their empathetic Sousa says, they know the presidency is about us and not about them. Throughout the documentary he discusses what it was like to have such unfettered access to Barack Obama, and now he was able to showcase the former presidents humanity through pictures. and seeing authentic moments of a person exercising their capacity for empathy a week and understand what type of leader they are. Sousa says given the time he spent in the Obama White House Sousa also had a high level of access to the current Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden when he served as vice president alongside Obama. Time asked Sousa to choose photographs. He took of Biden during that time to discuss what he thinks. Voters can glean about Biden as a leader and when Abidin presidency might look like. Reaching out across the aisle. This is Biden talking to a Republican senator. One of the things about Joe Biden is that he knows all these legislators and has really good working relationships with most of them. Sousa says about this photograph, of Biden in the cabinet room because of these prior relationships, Biden was often tasked with meeting senators from the opposite party to discuss legislation like the affordable care. Act Susan recalls. I think this picture shows that he's tried to work across the aisle. Disagreeing, when the situation demands it This photograph was taken after a situation room meeting on Libya and twenty. Eleven. I like this picture because Dan's the last one to leave the room. Thus he gets to have the final word with the president. Sousa says, the interaction demonstrates desouza that Biden wasn't afraid to argue if he disagreed with Obama's point of view. Biden was always willing to stand up and say what he thought was the right thing to do. Sticking out the opinions of a diverse staff. To me this illustrated that he listened to staff Sousa says of this photograph which she took through the window of Biden sitting with then Homeland Security and counterterrorism advisor Lisa Monaco. Though Monica worked for Obama and not Biden Sousa, believes this snapshot shows that he valued her opinion and was indicative of how he sought out other points of view also to him. The gender of staff of the person doesn't matter. Sousa. Ads I think that in a Biden administration, you'll see a lot of women and people of Color. PRIORITIZING COMPASSION After the pulse nightclub mass shooting in. Florida. Both Obama and Biden met with the families of victims in Orlando. This particular moment was unusual for Susan because he didn't cover Biden's solo events, David. Letterman who was on Susan staff would do so. So it's one of the few images he has taken of Biden, consoling families. This is what we're talking about when we want somebody who's Compassionate Sousa says someone who will console families after a tragedy including the deaths of his first wife Nelia and their daughter Naomi and nineteen seventy two as well as the death of his son Beau and twenty. Fifteen. Bringing a sense of humor to a serious job. I can't remember who said something funny if it was President Obama or if it was Biden Sousa says about this image of a campaign event in New Hampshire, it was rare for the pair to do these types of events together Sousa recalls, but this time Biden was going to introduce Obama. He chose the photograph because it captures their relationship is friends while reflecting on the Moment Sousa adds that Biden? Just has a good sense of humor. Animated with passion and intensity. Like the First Photograph Sousa chose this one was taken after a meeting Obama and Biden Hab a group of Senators Susan explains that he couldn't decide between the two and ultimately decided to include both because they show two different aspects of the now candidate this one he says shows how animated Biden could get his level of intensity could ratchet up in some of these meetings with Congressmen and Senators Sousa says. As November's presidential election draws closer Sousa says it's important for voters to look for photographs of both candidates interacting with other people and more than that to ask questions about these leaders is this person competent he asks do I trust this person to do the right thing?
Marching in true step: Sousa sounds through expert ears.
"Hello and welcome to naxos classical spotlight. I'm Raymond Boucher. The music you just heard was from the Golden Star March by John Philip Sousa and in this podcast it's all about it's all things. Sousa as conducted by case Brian who has been undertaking for naxos for the past several decades to record all of his marches as they would have I've been performed by Souza's own band and as a special treat. I have an interview with Keith Brian so from here till the end of the podcast you'll hear mostly Keith with Brian Talking about Sousa's marches Souza's music and his own book about the music of John Philip Sousa. Uh Aw what was it that convinced you. I mean that Souza's music in in particular was not being played in the style. He actually used himself would certainly have been in the seventies. I I ran into this guy was gas. Yes conducting a college band in in Mississippi and an old drummer came up and talk to me and and started discarded telling me these stories about the way they used to do things and so he was a leftover from that era when he'd been trained that way and and so I went back to tale to the music library the recorded sound libraries quite extensive there and started listening to old recordings by Sousa's this is banned and at first I was very put off with the whole thing but gradually I began to adapt to it and then I started to read and found sources sources more more contemporary sources of how older players said they used to do things and so I it was just a gradual awareness that happen over a long period of years but it started at that point. I I can't remember the exact date I met this guy but but he really opened my eyes and in years so it it sounds like a lot of this performance practice would have been handed down from person to person as even more than just being written out or something and in the twenty s between nineteen twenty and nineteen twenty five a group of composers and conductors and musicians positions began to circulate it was during the modern era when things were beginning to streamline and architecture and it was a new kind of theatre theater going on all kinds of things happening and among them. Stravinsky was a leader in this in Copeland Toscanini UH skinny cause cells to some degree they were looking at these accumulated practices of the past and in that kind of movement the tha modernism that was going on all the arts and the twenties these guys tried to clean up these practices of the past because they didn't know where they came from and they they didn't seem to think that they were relevant. now why that was. I still don't know but but at any rate they they threw out the baby with the bathwater as the saying goes and they tried to develop a uniform series of interpretive principles these are all very lustrous his famous musicians but but they they kind of spearheaded the movement to to the modern era and modern interpretation which was a kind of a it ended up being a kind of liberalism that they espoused and that that's still true today so if it's his piano score you play piano and don't add anything because the composer didn't put it in the except that in those days composer didn't put those things and expect that the players to do so oh that's that's that's kind of a very rough introduction to the whole thing but it's it's a vast sea of of thought in principles Yeah uh-huh Wpro in Your Book Sousa's marches as he performed them. You discuss a number of areas and I think we can get into a bit more detail. perhaps starting for delay listener the parts of a Sousa March just so people understand how these things are put together the the great thing is they're not exactly early alike but but you can make generalizations about them I was all the always introduction was usually either four or eight measures and then the first strain the introductory strain of the march march usually had three distinct strains for possibly four counting the interlude so there's that general form and within that for me had tremendous variations so the book deals with that as best it can in in the the core course if a book and this is not about performance practice now this is about how a composer composed right that's about the structure of the pieces right exactly exactly then within all of that and then he he had his own performance practice for his own concerts where he changed the marches for his own performances and made them much more interesting with much more contour and and contrast than than we are accustomed to hearing up today and all of the march is that we've recorded for the next series. are all done with that. that kind of interpretation hello yeah yeah so in the book you write about articulation dynamics phrasing. I'm a one of a number of chapters but to look at articulations dynamics namic and freezing Howard these done differently ensues his own band well. Let's take praising generally. Sousa phrase had its idea ah more often at the inception than at the end we tend to think in the romantic sets of of something leading to something leading to something that very very often with Susan's writing it was more the idea that began and may be elaborated a little bit but there wasn't this ongoing sort of storm and drank toward toward a final conclusion. things happen when they happened and surprises came when they came but there wasn't this a sense of organic progression from one thing to another that that we tend to think of today or in in romantic interpretation so that's that's just one piece of it. They did play shorter in those days. in short notes for shorter river very clear and distinct they were not short notes short passages passages were not played as loudly as they are today they this short notes tended to be a little softer than the long notes and that's that's very different than today most of the time in interpretation the quick things or played loudly to show off how fast they are but in. SEUSS's case the longer notes where played louder and the shorter notes were played a little more lightly so that's actually a profound difference that would affect the way the whole march sounds exactly Eh You also talk about Blandon Color and wet John Phillips Sousa did with his own band. It was quite different in some ways I think from the published editions there's a famous story of his first rehearsal of his first band in somewhere in New York. He put it together other and and he went down through the clarinet section they had them played some little passage and they kept rehearsing them till they all sounded exactly alike and then he added other instruments to the passage of the cornets or whatever and and he worked with them until they all sounded exactly like the two days the way the man played together they stroll strove for a unified sound and not a sound where instruments the individual characteristics of instruments stuck out so much it was more organized. I think you could say so that that just one one characteristic of his performances in how he did things he also in terms. It's a balance like more bass than we do often do today in band busy. the basis were quite predominant. The middle voices is where a little softer and then the melody was strong so that's another difference in in the way he looked at things now. Did he make differences in the actual instruments. He was using the band. I mean how many of each the melody instruments like the first clarinets and the first first cornets were slightly fuller especially the clarinets he he used a a large body of first clarinets analogous to the large first violins in the Symphony Orchestra and I think that's where he got it. he also did a lot of doubling the bass parts so those those two things very strong melody and very strong base and then a much lighter mid range so that it is March as for instance after beats could be heard nuts. That's a general approach that he had to balance ooh ooh uh-huh they uh-huh so when you I listen to the recordings of his has banned those have been now very old recordings. What did you think of the what you are hearing the first time you I heard it. I thought it was pretty funny. I wasn't that impressed. You know it took a long time for my years to change and to realize the good and bad things about it. First thing that you have to realize though is that these were very small studio bands it could crawl in front of all a horn acoustic horn and play which meant that that it was only fifteen or sixteen players so it all those recordings always sound slightly goofy later on in the late nineteen twenties some other conductors came in and recorded Sousa's marches with a fuller ban when when electrical recordings came in the late twenties and those those sound pretty good but the original the original ones and not so much the other interesting thing is Susan didn't believe in recordings and the only conducted a handful. Oh six or eight and we do have recordings of those things to listen to and and that's been very helpful to me and and getting an idea of how he approached his scores and what he did uh-huh doc Uh Uh yeah so you've been living with Souza for a long time coming to the end of this huge project recording project for naxos right. I'm taking a deep breath. What made you decide to take on this project. My parents were not musical. The only recordings we have in that look back on it the only recordings we have in the House or my dad had a business of renting public address dress systems and so he would go along to go out to these rallies to rent them sound equipment and he needed music to play so he bought recordings of Sousa marches marches and from an early time from time. I was two or three years old. He would bring me along to put the needle on these recordings so they became my cradle music. It's it's amazing as I think back on it so that's I plead guilty to this I it goes way back practically to my cradle but but then in in one thousand nine hundred eighty six you started your own new Sousa band. It was for a television special so you've been thinking about this music a long long time time. Oh Yeah in the seventies I was band director yell and we're looking for ideas and interesting things to do and a biography. Griffey of Sousa had just come out and I sat there and read it and was transfixed really with the success of Sousa's band and how serious it was in a musical musical sense and and all of the things they had done which would take hours to tell you but at any rate I got this idea maybe we could take the abandoned convert them into Susan's ban and give a concert that way with actually dressing them up in uniform and it was kind of a little bit of a cheap shot as I look back on it. then my wife at the time said you know if you're GONNA do this. You should do it right and it was profound. It's fought then I began to really look into it and try to figure out what it took to do it right we did a concert in nineteen believes seventy sixty seventy seven with the band. It was a big hit. One of the guys at the university convinced me to take it to Carnegie Hall so we took this program to Carnegie got reviewed you by. The New York Times a rave review really in the New York Times to play this Sousa program at Carnegie Away Susie used to do it and and that eventually led to me due to doing this fulltime which I've been doing ever since I left in nineteen eighty left jail and have been added ever since how many albums now they complete series is twenty three CDs wow and we just finished two weeks ago volumes twenty two and twenty any three yeah I when you've been working with this music forever and ever and we've got a lot of lay musicians and perhaps some band directors listening to this podcast I what advice would you give them as a bring out the next Susan Susan March to perform well. I hope you'll read my book and listen to the recordings for sure the book the book actually talks about how it is done which contemporary contemporary band directors who are very able people don't really know a lot about this particular part of their repertoire so if they can do that they'll they'll have big rewards. Sousa publish just marches initially to be played outdoors by marching bands. He never published them in the form that he played them with his own band. So what we've recorded are the ways. Susan altered them for his own performances. and I've published a great number of them myself. also as published music so it's making that transition from the marching band parts which is how is published them in what the band directors mostly know about up to the concert versions susie used is what this is all about for me it's it's something very new in the band business You have been listening to music by John Philip Philip Sousa and an interview with Kentucky's Brian who conducted all of the music in this podcast in fact Mr Brian has just finished recording all all of Sousa's marches for naxos as they would have been performed by Souza's own band many things to Mr Bryan for taking the time to chat not only the recordings but about his book about Souza's music and marches if you're at all interested in the subject this book is required reading and if you're a band director boy boy. You really can't do without reading this book either way. I hope you've enjoyed the podcast and the interview. I'm Raymond Shea so long for now uh-huh.
Short Stuff: Aristides de Sousa Mendes
"Hey and welcome to short stuff. I'm Josh there's Chuck and there's Josh the other Josh and this is short stuff. Did I say that already. I don't know noth- Talk Chocolates get to we're talking today about a man who is shamefully or was shamefully overlooked by history starting to get his do finally named Aristide desouza Mendez do Amaral branches. I think I came awfully close. My Portuguese is a little rusty seeing as how I've never spoken a word of it my life and not bad <hes> we can call him <hes> the Portuguese Oscar Schindler and that should give you a good idea of where this episode so does headed okay Aristide desouza Mendez were just GonNa leave it at that <hes> by the time nineteen thirty eight rolled around had become a career diplomat for Portugal. He was trained as a lawyer and <hes> by the time he he was assigned to Bordeaux France nineteen thirty eight <hes> he had been all over the world he he was definitely a senior diplomat in the diplomatic core for Portugal. That's right so <hes> in nineteen thirty eight like you said he was in France. <hes> World War Two comes knocking on his door. Germany invades Poland and Portugal was like I really like we're Portuguese. We're not into this world war stuff yeah. I don't know if you've got the memo but we'd like to remain sort of neutral unhappy over here growing olives and drinking wine <hes> and so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA distribute this thing called circular fourteen the basically says <hes> all of our our consoles all over the world. You need to deny I travel into Portugal for for refugees. We don't like it. You're being persecuted but we want to stay out of this as much as possible <hes> Aka we don't WanNa make Hitler Mad so we're not gonNA take your <hes> your refugees. He's <hes> including the Jewish people right and this is the circular fourteen it gets sent out to all consulates in Europe and <hes> that was supposed to be that but this this this this came at a time chuck when there were apparently the New York Times estimated something between six and ten million people moving around Europe because chaos was just starting to brew as Germany invaded Poland and then invaded France <hes> it was pushing in displacing a lot of people around who we're trying to get out of here <hes> and I looked up like that's a pretty big number but like what is it in today's terms in Germany ten million people move around the country a year on their train system in a year this was like at once there were six to ten million people moving around and they were moving around chaotically but again Portugal said now we're not taking part in this just just stand there motionless silent and don't do anything you think they're going to have to figure out a different way <hes> in in if Germany gets them well then that's too bad and this Aristide desouza Mendez said. I don't think I can do that yes so he's in southern France so that was a a hot spot for these refugees because they were thinking we can from there. Just go into Spain then right into Portugal right. That's what Lauren Bacall did in Casablanca she she flew she flew to Lisbon. That's right <hes> but you know I don't think they could fly into Lisbon has been at the time they could. She helps on a plane at the end while she did right sure. Oh Oh you're saying that people who are seeking help from Susan Mendez. That's right sure sure Gotcha so he knows that if he goes directly against his government is going to be bad news is for him. It's GONNA be bad news for his family. He would be willfully disobeying a direct order of circular fourteen <hes> but he befriended a Polish rabbi. <hes> name Chime hurts Krueger Nice <hes>. <hes> and he offered visas to this guy in his family but Krueger was like you know what <hes> I don't. I'M GONNA turn down this offer because what you really need to do is save everybody that you can and it was a really sort of monumental moment for <hes> for Susan Mendez because he was a devout Catholic and this guy was a rabbi and you know they they had their mind on the same thing is except the rabbi was just saying like be bold and Susan Mendez was in fear of his life basically really yeah because I mean like him him. Not Listening to the circular fourteen is not it wasn't like listening. You're not listening to an order from like the Jimmy Carter Administration. There was a dictator running the show in Portugal at the time would continue for you to run the show until nineteen seventy I believe so it was a a real conundrum that he found himself in but ultimately he consulted his own conscience and he said no morally. I have to do something. I can't just sit by and he he did did he. He took <hes> he took the advice of this rabbi and at Im- Bordeaux <hes> he set up basically an assembly line for for stamping and signing any and every visa application into Portugal that was was handed to him by anybody. He tried to get as many people safe passage into Portugal's he physically could he and I think given what's GonNa get minor political here. What's going on in this country today? We should read this quote <hes> <hes> from Susan Mendez I have it all in my hands now to save the many thousands of persons who have come from everywhere in Europe and the hope of finding sanctuary in Portugal they are all human beings and their status in life the religion or color or are altogether immaterial to me yeah so let's dwell on that during the message break and <hes> we'll be back right after this GEICO presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects this is Brian. Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event a chest of drawers. There's a storm howling outside so I thought I'd stay. Stay in and watch a ROM COM five minutes into the flick. A Tree Branch slams through the window. Why are you hurt? I just gotTA scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm but the GEICO insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage Kohl Geico to see how affordable homeowners insurance can be. I hope that that was a everybody got a sixty second mid roll from the A._C._l._U. just now so they're running a lot of people through this thing I mean like you said it was like an assembly line and they were stamping these like they were running out of stamps. They were stamping visas so fast get this. There's no way that he didn't get a hand cramp on the rig. <hes> tens of thousands of people <hes> many thousands of which were Jewish were granted these visas under his authority <hes> and it was later said it was perhaps the largest rescue hugh action by single individual during the Holocaust and that includes Oscar Schindler. That's huge yes schindler. I think <hes> was responsible for making sure that twelve hundred people successfully escaped the Holocaust <hes> <hes> Susan Mendez was responsible for for likely many many thousands more than that like they've identified so far at least thirty eight hundred recipients from forty nine different countries <hes> but they're like there's there's the thousands and thousands more just from this assembly line that they set up from. I believe the beginning of May until <hes> July when Bordeaux was overrun by the Nazis in the whole operation was broken up so repercussions percussions for sure <hes> July nineteen forty he was recalled from Bordeaux to face trial for insubordination and <hes> he basically says in court. You know what <hes> I answered a God. <hes> I would rather stand with God against man than man against God and he was convinced that he was <hes> had a moral defense and he was right and he was convinced that <hes> the actual constitution of Portugal prohibited persecution based on religion and <hes> and he was right there as well but it didn't matter because like you said they were living under a dictatorship and in October of nineteen forty he was found guilty he was relieved of his duties and blacklisted by the government for the rest of his life and very very sadly died in nineteen fifty four at the Franciscan hospital for the poor in Lisbon. Yes not penniless I. I noticed this article said he was broke out. How much you dislike the word penny listed describe? Somebody dies broke. I didn't see that it's at penniless. There was like I think in the Tesla episode we did. You're like that word. I really yeah 'cause you're like. I'm sure he's got a penny. I didn't know that he was supposedly <hes> didn't have any money but yeah he was broke. I mean like they they they broke him. They basically said you're not gonNA have any more government work <hes> and good luck finding anything but a government work in a bureaucratic dictatorship so he <hes> yeah he was he was blacklisted he was blackballed and he died in poverty with his family also taken down with them. You know like this guy said he knew the risk and he said I'm going to put all these other families <hes> in front of my own family and like if you're a utilitarian that makes a Lotta sense because even to families are worth more than one family but still this is this guy's own family that he's putting under the under the gun to help all of these others yeah but he did not regret it toward the end of his life he said I could not have acted otherwise and I therefore accept all that has befallen me with love. How's that for a lesson? It is a great lesson and now he is typically mentioned along with Oscar Schindler who who is no slouch himself. No no no no shade on. Imagine what he did but I mean like Susan Mendez also deserves a decent amount of credit as well and slowly but surely it started to come around <hes> his daughter Joanna Sousa Mendez <hes> really started to beat the drums to to revive I for fathers standing in the world in nineteen sixty six. She got a petition approved so that her father would be named a righteous among nations which is what the <hes> Yad Vashem which is the Holocaust memorial royal in Jerusalem. It's an honor that they bestow on non-jews who went to great lengths in in place themselves at great risk to save people from the Holocaust so those a big first step and that took place in nineteen sixty six but they kept going and then eventually a daughter from one of the people that he saved directly join this too yeah I mean he was he was honored a few times in eighty seven the U._s.. Congress <hes> convince the Portuguese government to officially apologize <hes> and then after these ancestors of the survivor started coming forward right and they started digging these people up and compiled a list so far this foundation the Sousa Mendes Foundation <hes> <hes> which is co founded by his grandchildren and descendants of the people that he save which is just an amazing story <hes> they've compiled a list of about thirty eight hundred these recipients in forty nine different countries and they are still on the lookout for more people. It's like this big <hes> sort of dispersed family all over the world yeah and they make the point to that not only did he save all these people you know this minimum of thirty eight hundred probably thousands and thousands and thousands more he directly saved their lives he he also ensured the lives of their offspring even been born yet who are now born in of have <hes> you know managed to live who otherwise wouldn't have lived had it not been this for the direct intervention of this guy amazing yeah so hats off Aristide. Susan Mendez is a great name and you're a great guy. We do a lot of hats off in the short as I like it I yeah it's kind of a celebratory series isn't it had it here and there is for sure or we talked about some weird dumping that no one knows about their.
Life on Venus?
"I'm alan alda. And this is clear and vivid conversations about connecting and communicating. I'm aware that it's all very speculative. So i try to hold myself back but i do find myself thinking about these hypothetical venetians quite a lot. They will have horrible relationship with the neighbors over a couple of molecules of water and they will struggle and they'll be witnessing there ever shrinking envelope of habitability happen. And i think they'll be witnessing the end of a living planet because venus used to be habitable and so then my heart really breaks for them. That's clara sousa silva also known as dr phosphine. A research career studying in obscure molecule one of the most noxious molecules in the known universe has suddenly placed her at the center of one of the most audacious claims in the history of science. That there is life in the clouds of venus. This has got to be such a good conversation. Because i can't wait to talk to you about your discovery you. The headline of this conversation is that you have found signs of life on venus. Now have you have. Have you found signs of life or have you detected what may be signs of life more of alaska so we have detected a strong signal from the only habitable place on venus and the most plausible explanation for that signal is phosphine and we have tried our hardest to figure out how it could possibly be there without the intervention of life and we have come up empty. We cannot explain the presence of phosphine in clouds of venus in any known geochemical or atmospheric way and so as implausible as it sounds the best explanation we have so far for the presence of phosphine in the cloud decks venus is life so who would have guessed that the life that we find on the first planet where we think we've found life is in the clouds. I would not have guessed it. I have been championing phosphine as a sign of life for a long long time. Many many years been studying phosphine for about a decade and i was looking for phosphine sign of life in distant exotic planets. I was imagining these trop. Kole wastelands ting planets far away and it was only because of jane greaves. Who will lead this. Latest study of phosphine on venus and she was considering life on the clouds of venus and life and other places in the solar system and jane had phosphine on her list and possible biomarkers and she looked at venus and saw it and contacted me. Because i've shouting about phosphine biosignature for years but it was only this kind of combination of skills and drives that led to this extraordinary discovery. None of us on our own would have done it. So tell that story that's jane greaves yes jane greaves and you didn't know each other right now. We didn't apparently been at a conference together. Many years ago when i was i think a first year. Phd student and what prompted her to look for phosphine on venus actually was a paper that we both read. The mentioned phosphine associated with penguin feces. So it seems like the intestines and excrements of ping wins. Have a lot of kind of rich. A rich complex anaerobic world that is producing phosphine and there was an article released saying they found seen above these kind of places where there's a lot of penguin poop and and i had found that paper n- i had read through basically every peer reviewed paper the mentioned phosphine and i had collected this body of evidence for fossey's a biosignature of anaerobic world's on earth anaerobic ecosystems on earth and by association would be a good molecule to look for anaerobic life on other planets and i had submitted a paper with what i thought was not a controversial conclusion. That said if you find phosphine on any terrestrial planet can only mean life and i submitted it and it wasn't a big deal of course because it was very hypothetical but i went to lots of talks and conferences and pitched for phosphine champion phosphine to hundreds of board audience members. But one of those one of those paul rimmer. Who's a mutual friend between myself jane. He was talking to jane about her work and she had been looking for. Lots of potential biomarkers of which phosphine was one and She mentioned finding it. Maybe on venus and not knowing really what the kind of biosignature implications the biological implications of. It would be an paul said. I know who you talk to. So jane emailed me to say. You're the fossey's expert. I hear you're looking at it as a biosignature. I think i found it on. Venus is weird. I think it's weird. I'm paraphrasing here. And i very quickly replied with yes. It's very weird extremely weird. Are you absolutely sure because it's either. I'm very wrong or this is a really big deal and beijing. Email show up in. Your inbox was incredible. I felt like my blood froze and boiled all at once. And i felt so proud of my little molecule. You know in really nice yes. I thought that maybe it would be nothing. But i thought for a second if it was something this would be so extraordinary and i felt this flush of happiness and i replied very quickly and that was a year and a half and we spend the time. Our collaboration trying to confirm it is phosphine. Tried to explain it any other way with a very large and extremely talented international team. So i know it came as a surprise one a month ago. The discovery broke but we have been dealing with a secret for a long time. The queen of five feet. I think the the world's expert on phosphine. I even your. I love your twitter. Handle dr phosphine. Yes that's true when i was doing my phd. I was doing it with the exile mall group in london and each of us each shoot and had to focus on a single molecule important for astrophysical discoveries and so i spent my entire pitched working on phosphine and i will go to conferences and people would say i you miss vaseline and i would say yes i am but soon i'll have my phd. And i'll be dr phosphine and that's how it came to be so there's something i don't really understand about fuss and actually there are probably several hundred thousand things they don't understand about it but the one at the head of line is as i've heard phosphine described. It's a guess right and it's a lethal. Guess which was even used in world. War one is as a military weapon. How could something so lethal assign of life. Well if you smell it you probably will die so you actually don't even want to smell it. that's how awful it is. How do we know what it smells. Like there are very few rafu Of people who smelt it and lived to tell the tale and most of the smell actually comes from the impurities around it and descriptions are really quite vivid that it smells like fishy going keep deaths. I think someone described as smelling like the rancid diapers of the spawn of satan so very vivid imagery. But just because it's unpleasant to us doesn't mean as unpleasant to other lifeforms we have evolved to avoid things that are bad for us and phosphine is one of those things but other life finds different ecosystems pleasant than we do and even on earth the life that produces phosphine life that doesn't care for oxygen and doesn't use oxygen while for us. Oxygen is very important really crucial for our existence. So i think the idea that this is a disgusting molecule is in the eye of the beholder. The smeller bad for us but we would smell terrible to them and so part of my work is trying to avoid this kind of human centric attitude to alien life. It's like a person who studies sharks and falls in love with them exactly understandable to so it. It sounds like you're saying that the life that possibly or probably exists on in the clouds of venus is not aerobic life. it doesn't use oxygen the way life on earth does or most life. There's there is an aerobic life on earth to right there is yes. And that life produces phosphine in rather large quantities. It was one of the reasons that my work propose. Facia good biosignature. It was because it was such a popular sign of life on earth as long as it was for life that doesn't care for oxygen. Which of course. It's very much in the shadows of the world and because we have such an oxygen rich planet which is lovely for us but not lovely for the rich ecosystems that exist that don't like oxygen and so i did proposed as a biosignature on oxygen poor distant worlds. Obviously i fell to think of next door as one of the really good opportunities for it. Let me ask you about the clouds of venus where it's much cooler right. It's isn't it. Like eight hundred. Degrees on the surface of venus around eighty degrees fahrenheit in the cloud hot summer yes not so bad. But the where's the phosphine coming from our little animals producing it or what. Well the short answer is. We don't know but we definitely don't know of anything other than life. That could be making it. If it is life it would have to survive in the clouds for its entire lifespan. So it can never go to the surface so has to be a hundred percent aerial biosphere and we know this is plausible because on earth there are plenty of life forms that spend the majority of the time time in the clouds and they don't really have to on earth. The surfaces temperate. So it's not a big leap to imagine a planet where only the clouds are habitable. That life will have adapted to spend all of its time there. You mentioned life in clouds on earth. I don't think i ever heard that before. What what life is in our class and only our clouds. Is that the idea. It stays up there by itself doesn't mix with us. I don't think any life on our stays exclusively in the clowns but several very small microbes but also bigger animals like birds managed to spend the majority of the lifetime in in the clouds. So i think swallows having a very impressive range of their lifetime that they spend in the air making use of currents and temperature differences to glide and float without ever having to make make all the way down and this is on earth. They don't have to. They can come to the surface and so this is an argument for the plausibility of completely aerial. Biosphere so would this. I have to have the ability of locomotion would be in effect flying in the clouds or would it be so so tiny that it could just live its life blowing around with whatever wins. Maybe there we don't know both are possible. It could be a delighting life or a floating life for flying life and we don't know i can't wait to find out. How will you find out. So that's complicated and there are many steps to be taken. This was the preliminary step in a really big discovery but we. I have to confirm unambiguously that. It is in fact phosphine by finding other evidence of it in different regions of the electromagnetic spectrum. And if we then confirmative we have to map. it's distribution really carefully to see how a possible aerial biosphere is behaving. Does react to sunlight. Does it change in the seasons. Is that More present in the equator that in the polls so all of this will give us information on how life might be going about its business and then we need to look for other signs of this ecosystem if it is there it won't just be producing phosphine on earth. We produce thousands of molecules together in this complex ecosystem that the planet earth is so we would expect the same for venus and looking for those would be. The next step is the way you discovered the feis fien through examining the spectral signature of that molecule. And would for anybody. Who's a little hazy about what that is. Would you explain what it is. How you doing of course. Es when you consider kind of white light you may kind of imagine it as a very pure source of of energy but actually white light can be broken up into its full electromagnetic spectrum. So all the colors of the rainbow all the invisible callers beyond it in the infrared and ultraviolet and when light goes through a gas the molecules within that gas will absorb select points of that electromagnetic spectrum so if it absorbs in the optical absorbs specific colors of the rainbow and by knowing which colors each molecule absorbs. You can see what molecules must have been present in. The gas light went through so we can do that with venus as well. We we can do that with son. And any of the lights you see in your night sky. I spend my whole peach. Phd figuring out exactly how phosphine director with light and i calculated sixteen point eight billion ways in which phosphine interacted light. So sixty. what. What does that mean. It's sixteen point. Eight billion colors of the rainbow. That only phosphine absorbs every molecule. Has its own. Kind of unique spectral fingerprint. And they're very complex and one of those sixteen point. Eight billion spectral features is one that we found on the clouds of venus. What kind of a device to you. Look into to get to get that. I'm curious about what the actual physical reality is. So all by work was done on supercomputers but it was calibrated by work done by spectroscopy instruments. That can take light and crack it open and to its full spectrum. And if you do that with the light that has gone through different molecules. You'll see the unique spectral fingerprint. Reach one of them and we can do this in the lab. This is often expensive and dangerous. When it comes to things like phosphine and part of the reason i like doing this. Supercomputers is because we can simulate any environment that that gas can be in and so planets are very hot or cold or very high pressure and in the lab. It's hard to come up with every type of hypothetical planet than you could consider. I'm wondering if you think about this. You must imagine life in the clouds of venus a lot during the day. You must ask yourself a lot of questions about it and one of the questions. It's in my mind. And i wonder if you've thought about this is would you expect whatever life is in the clouds. If it's really there would you expect it to have evolved and keep evolving and would have produced a number of different species and as life on earth says. Yes i i do. Think about them a lot. I'm aware that it's all very speculative. So i try to hold myself back when i do find myself about these hypothetical venetians quite a lot and i think the answer to your question depends on the answer to another question which is are they bio chemically similar to us or not now if they're not chemically similar to us than maybe don't find the fact that the venetian clouds are highly acidic and extremely dry. A problem the way life on earth which very much a problem. Maybe they've learned to adapt to that environment and they have developed some level of complexity that allows them to experience their habitat. With how much pain. And then i wonder about things like they look up and they just see hayes. They don't know of their night sky. When we look up and we see venus we can wander. But they don't get to do the same thing because they don't get any stars. It's too hazy. Show maybe don't have ice. And maybe they don't have is exactly they don't have an ability to perceive light the way we do but at least then i can imagine some happiness for them when i do think about the possibility that their bio chemically similar to us then it is much more tragic because if they're anything like us they will hate being surrounded by sulfuric acid and they will be desperate for the few molecules of watch. There are few and far between they will fight for them probably will have horrible relationship with the neighbors over. You know a couple of molecules of water and they will struggle and they'll be witnessing their drinking envelope of habitability happen. And i think they will be witnessing the end of a living planet venus used to be habitable and so then my heart really breaks for them. You've not only discovered life. You have an apocalyptic view of it already like it. Sounds like a number of points in that and mimicking what we go through fighting for resources and that kind of thing and that may be all true all over the universe who knows absolutely venus used to be habitable for a long time until about six hundred million years ago but now nothing can survive on the surface and so it was only through a runaway greenhouse effect that this has happened that now. It's this tiny sliver of the atmosphere. That is still habitable. A little on the nose. Comparisons to the earth and at the the the runaway greenhouse effect. We may find ourselves in very soon. When we come back i asked clara sousa silva if finding possible signs of life in such an improbable. Place is the clouds of of venus suggests to her life could be everywhere in the universe right after this. I want to thank all of you. Signed up to support clear and vivid on patron. It really helps us to bring you conversations. 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By the fact that they're emitting a gas and that is giving you a sign of life but you don't have doesn't seem possible that you have the other signs of life. No the definitions of life are very controversial and people still argue about it and astro biology and the origins of life field. I try to be as unbiased as i can within the limitations of being a human astronomer and so it's hard to not be human centric earth centric and in trying to be unbiased as much as possible. One of the things that i consider as i only take that one category so i don't expect any life might exist on any planet in the universe to be one hundred percent efficient because we don't have many one hundred percent efficient systems and so it's inevitable that any life no matter how strange it might be must have to make use of resources around it and not be completely efficient with them and what that means is something is going to come out and that that metabolite. I'm considering the only criteria for life at least for my search of life and phosphine is one of those metabolites but my group. Mit we came up with sixteen thousand. Three hundred and sixty seven gases of which one is phosphine that life anywhere could be producing releasing the atmosphere. So most of my time actually spend looking for all of those are some of them waste products or or or most of them. What what are you. What are you guessing. A lot of 'em are waste. Products a lot of them are perfect purposely released for signaling for example but there are all molecules that life seems to be able to create and released into the atmosphere so there are not just produced by life for some purpose but also volatile so they can rise up in the atmosphere to a place where i could detect them from. Here is my criteria there. There are the thirteen thousand. Some thousand three hundred sixty seven these are these are molecules that would be released by something living. Yes now did to decide that it really is alive. Do you wanna have a preponderance of those. Those molecules are dissatisfied with one or two. No you definitely want village because a lot of these molecules can be produced by life but could also be produced by volcanoes or tectonic plates or oceans interacting with radicals in the atmosphere. And so detecting most of these molecules in isolation wouldn't necessarily mean life because they all have false positives for life one of the reasons phosphine when the reasons phosphine is quite so special because it has very low false positives for life. It's so hard. Make that entourage planets. We can't even come up with alternative methods of creation beyond life but other molecules that are lovely by saint as in many ways like washer or methane or oxygen can be produced in many non biological ways. So that's one of the ways of ranking these sixteen thousand three hundred and sixty seven but most of my time. I push for considering not just one molecule but considering the whole picture of a biosphere if an alien astronomer had looked at the earth and saw oxygen. I'm sure they would have gotten excited but they won her really got excited until they saw oxygen together with meeting those two together. The reason that we find them should really be here. and so. it's a pretty robust son of life and at that point i'm sure alien. Astronomy would keep on looking and find all of the other trace gases in our atmosphere and paint this three dimensional picture of of rich complex lives world so my professional goal is to do that to any other potential alien biosphere. Why is it so hard to make phosphine. And if it's so hard how did they use a world war one so it's hard to make it spontaneously but human ingenuity is very powerful and if something can be used as a weapon we will put the effort in to to make it sadly but the fosters to make because the phosphorus atoms and the hydrogen atoms. Don't really get along. Phosphorus much rather be bonded to oxygen. And that's a lot of the a lot of the forms of phosphorus species are found on earth and hydrogen has much better things to do like binding with carbon to make me pain or with oxygen to make water and so these these elements are not natural friends and you need to put a lot of energy into a system to convince them to bind into a molecule like phosphine so even jupiter and session the only reason we see fussiness because he gets made in the hellish depths where it's so hot and there's so much hydrogen pressure that phosphine can be made and then gets dredged up from these depths to the top of the atmospheres. What we see it otherwise. We wouldn't even see it in places like jupiter and saturn and they're much more extreme than the environments we find on tricia planets like earth or venus. Have you arrived at the conclusion that there's probably life everywhere in the universe if indeed we got it right and there's life on venus a planet so different from earth than yes. Life must be extremely common because it would be the height of hubris to think that not only is life only on earth. But it's only on earth next door but nowhere else in the galaxy. We know our son is in special we know the the elemental makeup of our solar system is in special. So which point. We are special. While i say we don't i say we're not special if life can arise in planets as different as earth and venus live horizon everywhere in the universe and there must be thousands billions of planets out bear with lifeforms. Life must be inevitable so this does fill me with hope. You've been spending years. I believe you said looking for life on exo planets life on planets revolving around stars many many light years away. Have you been lucky in your fishing expedition. That all know. And i haven't. It's very it's only very recently. We've even known. There are planets around at the stars and only in the last few years that we've been able to look at those atmospheres and we barely have the technology to detect molecules in this atmosphere. So most of my work. Although it is with the ultimate goal of looking for life it's very much on the fundamental side of developing the toolkit to know life it so know exactly how each molecule that life could produce interact with light so that when we do eventually point out telescopes at the atmosphere of a potentially inhabited planet that we know what we're looking at the currently would not have that toolkit have the spectral signature for i think ninety six percent of those sixteen thousand three hundred and sixty seven signs of life. I guess most of us when we think about the possibility of life on other planets go right to the idea that there might be intelligent life on other planets and we really only have an example of one that we can draw our inference on. Have you thought about the odds for there. Being intelligent life not just everywhere but anywhere else. I am not immune to the charms of the notion of meeting an intelligent alien that i'm able to communicate with that. I can empathize with. But i do know that on earth we've had billions of species evolving in variety of ways and a huge array of ecosystems. And we've only had one barely intelligent species amongst the mall. And so i feel like could be an excise heartbreak if the majority of my research was looking for that. One needle in a haystack. Even on earth while life itself seems inevitable intelligence does not and so. I don't spend most of my time looking for signs that life meant to make i love for signs. Life didn't mean to make like what happens when we breathe. I think it would be wonderful. If you or somebody could discover intelligent life on earth still working bat. What i interested you in in looking up into the heavens well. I wanted to be an astrophysicist. For a really long time but is not quite as far back as i remember because i do know the exact moment where i decided to become an astronomer and that's when i was watching a solar eclipse around age twelve and my parents who are lovely and my mum who was lovely and although lovely she was very bad timing she was not punctual woman and not a precise woman and very clever not precise and she was giving me all these exact timings for all the minor events of the eclipse when he would start when he reached the apex and she was telling me you know what one eleven twelve seventeen in all these timings and i thought it was so strange that my mom was talking like this and i didn't believe for a second it would come true and then it did. I watched it happen exactly as my mom said it would and it just seemed incredible. How could she know the movements of the heavens like this with such precision and my mom in particular who so bad with time and my parents explained to me that this was a job. I'm that astronomers had and they had figured out and they just read the news in the papers. The told them when things would happen. And i just wanted that power so much and i spent the rest of my life trying to get trying to know how the heavens move without leaving the earth so it was a really incredible moment for me and for my parents show. So the news came out that third. There's possibly life on venus and this is an entry into another world for you. You you had been working quietly on. Feis fiend for years and now suddenly. It's the molecule of life. In the universe your exposure to the world to the public exploded recently. What had been like for you mostly surreal. But i'm filled with pride for my little molecule. And so it's nice to hear that it's in everybody's lips but i'm sure i'll go into obscurity very soon after right there will be many many news already. Has that can throw shadow across the discovery. The so it's been a strange time to talk to journalists and to have people contact me who didn't know me but mostly it's been really nice to hear from you know my dad. There people have called them up and say oh macara when she was little and that has been a nice side of things. But i'm sure. I will be in my comfortable obscurity very soon again except for all the little animals floating around on venus or saying to one another look. Look she found us. We thought phosphine was safe. And you know. I just remembered something i really wanted to ask you out if we have a minute. I get the impression that you very concerned with and spend a good deal of time. Inspiring young people to be interested in science and Especially girls i get the impression. Could you tell me about the the work you do in that area. Of course yes. As i as i kind of moved up the ranks in astronomy. I i was very excited about the new depths of the work. That i was able to do but i became increasingly disappointed with the narrow demographics of my field and the further up. I got the worse it got and so i. I've put a lot of effort and trying to make science more inclusive world and more diverse world for girls really every other under represented group. And so i do a lot of programs. I started doing these when i was still doing my phd. The first program. I did was called orbits or original research by young twinkle students because it was part of the twinkle space mission. A tiny tiny satellite and in it. We got students to do original research and with junior scientists that eye coordinated and it was incredible to see these high school kids being able to participate actively in original research. In fact several of these kids that are now my co authors. They're they're co co-authors in peer reviewed papers we published with their tiny little high school's official institutions right next to mit and harvard. And it's incredible to see the research kids can do if you just let them and provide them new basic training and this means these kids are really invested in how science turns out and i think will really change the face of science. I think that the greatest discoveries in astronomy are not going to be done with the next generation of telescopes are going to be done with the next generation of people who join strana me and make it better. So that's what most of my efforts go into trying to do science but doing it with anyone young who wants to join the cause because there are what three hundred billion stars in the galaxy orbiting them at least a at each but probably more. So there's got to be billions of potentially habitable planets releasing thousands of potential molecules. And i cannot do this on my own. So i know the for the work that i want to see done to be done. It crucially needs a buy-in from the next generation. I think we're nearing the end of our time. And we we always end our shows with seven quick questions okay. They're they're vaguely about communication First question what do you wish you understood. Quantum mechanics me too but you gotta headstart. Do you tell someone. They have their facts wrong. I'm quite poor at that. I try to bring citations sir. I often struggle with that. I've only just became somewhat active on twitter because of this discovery and every time someone criticized my workout. You know say oh. That's a totally normal thing to think can. Here's a citation for why you're wrong and no one wanted to interact with me on that level and so i'm doing. I know i'm doing it wrong. But i don't know how to do it right. Okay third question. What's to strangest question. Anyone is ever asked you since this discovery is broken. People have asked me. If i'm part of a global cover up for alien life so that that was a strange question because i have not tried to cover anything up so i'm pretty transparent with my work but can you show me the secret handshake. I would have to kill you. Naked person in a month told me that. How do you stop a compulsive talker. I'm not sure. I had just watched the presidential debate and i don't think i could have done any better so i don't. I don't think i stopped them. Let's say you're sitting at a dinner table when their word dinner tables and maybe one again and you're sitting next to someone you don't know. How do you strike up a real conversation with that person. I sometimes throw dinner parties. And i have a little card in front of everyone that has highbrow mid brow and low brow topics for them to if they're out of conversation and that's been a hit in the past you've just briefly give me examples of the three categories. Oh so it'd be things like what do you think of the hegemony of capitalist societies. And then what do you think of the latest. Jonathan franson novel. and then. What's your favorite miley cyrus song you got me. I'd be done at least two of those. But that's that's fine. You only need one to strengthen sitting next to someone who's only into number three then. Fortunately there's someone on either side of you so everything. Well i loved the idea. What gives you confidence in general or yeah my parents. My parents gave me confidence. And i with me last question. What book your life. Contact by carl sagan. That's great this has been a lovely conversation. Thank you so much such a pleasure. Thank you allen. I would love for it to go on for hours more. But i know you had to go somewhere. Thank you so much by five. Thank you. This has been clear and vivid. At least i hope so. My thanks to the sponsor of this podcast and to all of you. Who support our show on patriotic. 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"Science story. NYU scientists they fell. Well, it was that golden moment because science was on my side. Everybody walk into the story collider where we bring you true personal stories about science. I'm your host Aaron Barker and this week representing stories about parents, which feels appropriate because just last week. I was in my family's hometown of Charleston hosting our first ever show in West Virginia. First time my dad, and my grandmother got to see one of our shows, and my grandmother's primary feedback to us was to inform us that my co producer for the show. Nisa Greenberg is and I quote, a real good looking guy. So and gays you're wondering if we employ handsome boys at the story glider, the answer is in fact, yes, apparently, I would actually go as far as to say that we are all adorable. Mama Barker guarantees it. Now, we have two stories where he today about other people's parents in the ways that those relationships have intersected with science. Our first story is from Dan Sousa. It was recorded in April twenty eighteen at the theater. In Cambridge Massachusetts at are showing conjunction with the Cambridge science festival. So my mom is incredible cook, really, really great cook. But she's also a nurse might not sound like a contradiction. But just just stick with me. So growing up my mom, would you know, work really long hours at the hospital, she'd come home, and she was kind of an every woman says she would also make dinner for us for my dad, my sister. And I and we'd sit down I think like a lot of families do in pretty much every night sit down to really really great food. So, you know, she cook all kinds of things really comforting stuff. My favorite was probably her. Her main clam chowder, just absolutely like simple. But but delicious, and so we sit down to eat, and we were just kinda all go over days. So my sister, and I would talk about school. My dad would bore everyone with some stories from the office. And then it'd be my moms turn, and she would kind of talk about you know, what she'd been going through that day. So there was there was a three hundred pound guy that got out of surgery and was in. In his bed and felt like he was strong enough and healthy enough to get out of bed by himself. You know, just get up and then really really bad fall. So tons of bruising loads of internal bleeding, really bad situation. Or, you know, there's the woman who had to go into surgery and she needed to be intimated, which means to put a breathing tube down the throat for variety of really, interesting reasons, she she couldn't have it. Go down her throat had to be a nasal into bation, which is a really cool technique that my mom just didn't get a chance to do very often. So it was kind of a cool experience for or there was the woman who had a really bad wound that just like refused to heal and that required Magath therapy. And so just quick primer and how that works. What you do? Your first step is to order the maggots from the lab. So you don't just use any maggots clean maggots from the lab. And then you got to put him on the wound. So you put him on the wound the dressing on the dressing. There's two things that interesting needs to do the first is it has to be breathe -able. Right. You don't wanna kill the maggots. This second thing is it needs to seal really tightly because you don't want the maggots. Getting out. So anyway, the dressing on he send the patient home for forty eight hours. So during that forty eight hours they go to work they eat they sleep with the maggots on them. Forty-eight hours later they come in. And what's really cool is during that time the maggots eating all dead flesh. And that's actually what's neat about it. They don't eat the live flash. So is pretty painless. Anyways, they come in you take the dressing off. And at that point they've grown eat times larger than when you put them on. Give it to the maggots. So at this point in the dinner, my mom. She she'd be eating and talking and she'd sends a change in the room. You know, there wasn't the sound of silverware on bowls. There was no signs of active listening. You know, there was an a ha. Oh, really, you don't say. So she look up and she would through C three just ghost white completely blank faces staring back at her. And I would look at her. And I would look down at my soup. And I would think you know, it doesn't matter how good of a cook. You are your nursing ruins everything. And the thing is it didn't just happen to like the media family this spread out. And so I remember as a kid running around side with a bunch of friends, and my mom would call us in have some lemonade or see which sit down at the table, and we'd be drinking and hanging out and she just reach over to my friend's arm. And like give it a slight turn she'd be like. Ooh, look at that vein. I could easily get a needle in ID in that anytime. That's a great Dane, my friend would just look over me like completely shocked, and I would just like try to melt into my seat in disappear. I mean, she stock our house with surgical great shears bandaids guys EV stuff to make a cast. Like, she had the entire place just like stacked with hospital stuff. I'm pretty sure that like ten wounded union soldiers could have shown up at the house. We could've kept him alive for like a month on just what she had in the bathroom cabinet. She banned the terms crap poop and number two. If you're sitting down to go to the bathroom, you were having a bowel movement B M if you wanna be really casual. So this is like this was the nurse level living. And so she even mums leave notes around house Alah, they put them in your lunch everywhere. So many medical abbreviations just straight up Latin that like, no one could read them. So I grew up a lot of spent a lot of my time. Not really appreciate that. My mom was nurse. And a lotta times being grossed out and not really not really wanted to be around it. But it all changed when I was about twelve years old. And so my sister, and I had some friends are we're outside playing in the yard. And for a reason that we'll never know my dad who has kind of a ride on tractor. Lawnmower thing was letting us it and drive it around. And so one of my sister's friends was driving and one of my friends was doing this really fun thing where you kinda like it's like a slow speed accident waiting to happen. And you're kind of out in front of it like don't hit don't hit me. And the funny thing is that she hit him. And so the front wheels rolled over his body. And then at that point, she realized something wasn't right? And so she she took her foot off the throttle. So the tractor is just sitting on top of my friend, and it is just mayhem. You have like twelve little kids screaming and crying, and pointing no one's really handling the situation. Very well. My mom comes out of the house, and she triage is the shit out of the situation. So kids get away you call nine one one you too strong neighbors come over here lift the tractor at these two points pick it up my friends like about to start moving. She jumps on them tractions leg, stabilize it. EMT's arrived. She briefs the empties on the situation pack them up on the stretcher. She's in the NBA once gone, and she just leaves behind the scene of like tear stained cheeks, and like trembling kids in her way. And I was like, okay. I mean, a mom is a nurse's a pretty cool thing. Then there was the time that I had to have Pena surgery. Yeah. So quick primer on how that works. Most penises have an arrow straight. You're rita. Right. That's where the that's where the P comes out. Mine had this really funny little difference where at the end where it should be straight curves. Down a tiny little difference actually makes a really big difference though. Basically I'd stand up to go to the bathroom aim right at that toilet bowl. But it would just shoot right at my feet. A little bit of a prank penis situation. We're just really fine. So so I had to get that fixed. Right. And my mom was with me from the moment. I started this process to the time that I was like, fully healed and peanut surgery is painful because might not have guessed. And so I went into the hospital to I it was it was young. So I had a consultation, and they let me pick out the smell of the NFC Zhou that I was gonna have. And then, you know, then I had to go in for the surgery, and she was with me right until I went into the operating room on the other end. She was there when I got out and the amazing thing about having a mom who's a nurse in hospital is she knows this was her hospitals. She knows all the other, nurses. She knows the doctor. She can get things done whenever whenever it needs to be done. So she was with the whole time. She was even instrumental when we got home she worth of my dad on this ingenious device. So it was really painful to have a bunch of blankets on this area after you have peanut surgery. So she my dad. Zayn this this basically paint bucket cut in half that made a nice arch that I could put over there for for when I slept. And so it really have a nurse in that case. So my mom nowadays. She's not nursing profession anymore. She's retired. And in this kind of like awkward twist of I guess how life works she's going to the hospital a lot more than she used to. But because he's older because she needs to go there. And so she recently went in. She had to get a knee surgery, which I mean on the scale of surgeries, it's not Pena surgery. But. But it's painful, it's very painful. And so there's this thing with my mom that really sucks. She she can't take opioids can't take those really powerful pain meds that most people rely on after they have surgery so but she had to get get it on. So she went and had the surgery, and you know, she she went through it. And they give you this nerve block. When you go in for the surgery, so basically cuts out all feeling in your leg. And that wears off after, you know, maybe twelve hours than the pain sets in and that's usually when you take Percocet Viking in all these strong drugs, and she went to just add Bill. So I went and visit her after she was kind of awake and everything in the hospital. Joey, let me stay for five minutes, and the told me to leave and for anyone knows my mom. That's not like her. She's the warmest person wants people around. And I see in her is that she was in so much pain, and I could tell she was a little bit scared too. Because this was just the beginning she had to heal hospital, and then go home and do a lot of physical therapy. She had to get her knee from bending ninety degrees, which. Isn't too bad all the way to one hundred and twenty degrees, which is what you need for normal function. And you're really just grinding away at it until that works. So she was in the hospital for a few more days. I went visitor every time and it was again, five minutes. You gotta go. Eventually, she went home, and she continued the physical therapy on her own on the Advil. She finally went into this outpatient center, do this checkup to kind of like, you know, check their progress. And she is the hero of this outpatient center. She's now the poster child for how to recover from surgery the doctors like anyone who comes in from now on they're like any more pain medicine. I can't do my PT. He's like here's Marty Sousa, and she is seven years old. And she did it on at Bill. So I mean, I'm not surprised she's incredibly tough person. But anyway, so she's healed. Now, it's really really great to have her back. And so we were home recently for Easter dinner, and she's cooking. She's taking care of everyone running around on this new knee and still go. So we sit down to dinner, and it just feels like when we were kids, you know, and. Everyone's just kind of like catching up what's going on my dad's talking about stuff, and my sister's catching up hundred kids, and you know, and then Marty's just talking about things they're knee. And then she and she lets us know that the rate of death when it comes to flesh eating bacteria jumpsuit about seventy five percent when the scrotum is involved. And I couldn't be happier about it. Thanks. That was Dan Susan Dan is editor in chief of Cook's illustrated, and a cast member of the EMMY award winning television show, America's test kitchen. Dan is the kitchen entity of the New York Times bestseller, the science of good cooking and the James beard award nominated cook SCI, he's a regular contributor to the splendid table radio program and his personal stories have been featured on the moth radio hour before we move on to our next story. 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Tune in for radical reflections on our dangerous beautiful and heart pounding world ventures in new America's up now just premiered September twenty eighth. You can find out more at adventures in new America dot com or search for the show in your favorite podcast app. Our next door today is from the Kayla. Eight Thornton your court it in March twenty eighteen at the ready room and Saint Louis theme that night was best laid plans. My husband Brandon, and I got married later in life. We met in our early thirties, and we didn't get married till our mid thirties. And this is later in life by mid western standards. Okay. Folks. Just see y'all know other places in the world. It's not a big deal. But so when we got married we were like, all right? This is awesome. Let's have family and we're like, yeah. And that's the really fun part. Right. The practicing to have a family part, right? The sex, right. That's good. That's really good. But then after a year, really really awesome good unfettered fun times. I started to get really nervous and really fearful. And really kind of like oh, fuck what's going on? Like is there something wrong with me and mind, you I'm not the kind of person that's like I tongue my worth to my ability to have a child. I never been my gig. It's never been my thing. But I started to get really fearful. And I don't know if you guys are like this. But I go to that dark deepest what if? And as I'm there in that, darkest, deepest what if and we'd tried for a year and nothing's happening. I finally get the ovaries to collar reproductive endocrinologist. And I meet with her. My husband comes with me. It's one of those awkward moments that you feel like maybe a Coen brothers film should like option. Oh, wait, they did and raising Arizona, but. So you're there in the office. And then they say, okay, we're going to refer you to have an h g and h g is this test where they had this radiographic die, and they put it through a catheter, and he goes three Regina through your cervix. This little beautiful doughnut. And boom like alumi- all your lady bits, and you can see like if there are any problems with your uterus or your Philippian tubes. And it's like really trippy. I mean, you don't expect to see that part of you on a screen ever. Like, there's a lot of things you can watch online now. But that's not one of them. Typically. And so. I think this is no big deal. This is like flushing cars brake lines. Like, this is something I've seen my father deal. And so I'm like, I can do this. No problem. I'm I'm a boss lady. I'm gonna go in there and do this by myself. So I go, and there are could you not three male doctors, one of whom I think is a resident, and they're they're the gentleman that are down with the business area. And then there's the one that's telling me in very monotone. This is what we're doing next. And I'm on the stainless steel table and my bare assets cold, and you're angling your hips in the most vulnerable of positions. And oh, by the way, I started to realize home I God. Like, they're going to see if there's a problem like in this moment when I'm in this room with these three men, none of whom no me had sex with me. They're going to tell me what my problem is in. Why can't get pregnant and I started here up. Because you realize this moment ush, this is real like, we're really doing this. And so one of the resident just grabs my hand, which bless his heart. Someone taught him good bedside manner. And he's starts asking me about baseball and about weather, and what I do for a living, and I'm trying not to hyperventilate and answer questions at the same time. And then the other two business gentlemen are saying oh the dies flowing through. I don't see any blockages everything looks healthy. And at that moment. I squeeze the other residents hand and even tighter probably really tight, and I kind of side this huge exultation of breath. And they leave and aid comes in and helps me clean up. And then when she leaves I allow myself to cry. It just I thought jeez. This is the first step to try and have a baby with science. I'm in for one hell of a ride like seriously. So I walked out of that room after I took my profile, and you know, just left and. One of the things. That's so difficult to explain about infertility loss. Is that it underscores your mortality? More than anything. You don't really know. What you're missing until you don't have an opportunity to do it or have it. And so I was watching my friends having babies, and I felt this not jealousy. But sorrow. Hear me and my husband were ready ready to have a family loving and kind and we have the resources to bring a child into the world. But it wasn't happening for us. And we felt left behind. And so as we're going through this we start going through more and more of a wait. We have a miscarriage. We have two failed intrauterine insemination for the uninitiated. It's what sexy talk of artificial insemination people often talk about Turkey baster, which is factually inaccurate. I need you to all know that no Turkey base tres are involved. We have timed sex craziness. If anyone's like, my ovulation, I'm obviating like, that's not sexy talk. Just so, you know. Doesn't really make men real excited. I was on a drug called clo- mid. It is by the devil. If you're not familiar about claw made it is an opulent, Tori drug that made. My husband wanted dump me in a lake. And so finally said, let's get a second opinion. Right. Because at this point we've been trying for two and a half three years and still no Bambi. No. And so we get a second opinion, and this doctor, very compassionate and thoughtful says okay, your diagnosis is diminished. Ovarian reserve. And you're like, okay. What does that mean? It means. I don't have a lot of eggs, folks. All right. There's not a lot of possibilities here. And so we're like, well, what do we do next? He's like, well, if you want a biological baby you need to do in vitro, fertilization IVF the big guns every productive medicine. So I'm like kind of in this bittersweet Zeng's on because at least I have a diagnosis. There's a reason for why I'm not getting pregnant why we're not getting pregnant and also. Great. It's not because I can't relax. I can't tell you. How many times people say we just need to relax, and let me just say to you. That's the shittiest advice to give to anyone going through a stressful situation. Like, please write that down. Seriously. It is the worst advice to tell someone going through a hard time. And so I realized all right. Let's go for this. Like now, we've got next steps but convincing my husband was another process another story. So I said to him. Why wouldn't we try this? Why wouldn't we do this? And he said Kelly, it's not that. I don't wanna have a baby with you. It's not because I don't love you. And I don't think this is good. But like what if it's just not meant to be like, very fatalistic. And I said why would you say that like IVF is a door? Why would you not open it? And he said it's just a lot of expense. It's going to put your body through Helen back, and it possibly won't work. And he's right. Two thirds of IVF cycles. Do not work on the first time. And I said, yes, it's still worth it to the person that waxes poetic about science. But despite all the medical advancements in the world, if the one you love loses hope it's hard. So in thinking about this. I thought it'd be a great idea to tell my dad, but we were up to. So my dad, and I are at a diner because we on over not just cattle. But also, greasy spoons, and I've ordered a vanilla milkshake. Drinking it and I'm telling him my dad has taken a little bit longer. But you know, we're thinking about some other options. And my dad says in the most tone-deaf way of trying to comfort me, well, sometimes genetic lines just die out. And I I feel the frozen sweet cream of this milkshake go down my throat, and I think he just doesn't get it. He doesn't understand. He has no earthly idea. How hard his words hit me. And I just think he doesn't get it. He doesn't know what to say. So I said dad we're trying via. And he said, we'll try whatever experimental process. You wanna try? And I kind of recoiled at the word experimental because I'm like, okay, man. This has been used IBF and the United States it's nineteen eighty one two years after my birth. So at this point, this is a thirty five year old medical procedure. This is not experimental. And so I'm asking myself, are you going to refer to my child if I have one as an experiment. I'm really really wondering about that. So Finally, I convinced my husband he's on board. We're ready to rock and roll. It's June twenty sixteen at this point. It's been three years of trying to have a baby and also not really being super open about it largely because for some people, especially in this day and age with social media. It's it's really natural to share your progression to wanna family whether it's through biology, adoption, surrogacy or reproductive medicine. But for me, I was pretty much a closed book. I just I felt like my grief was amplified by not getting to that point yet. So here we are doing this procedure. We're ready to rock and roll. If you're not a million with there's a lot of medication involved, and so so much so that I have to take it for a month plus before they can retrieve my eggs. So the doctor's office gives me a color coded calendar that they update frequently and I have daily bruising injections. Nhs and a host of different types of hormones some to suppress some to encourage Osceola, Tori conditions. And so we do it. We retrieve five eggs because remember I have diminished ovarian reserve, I'm not a super producer like I'm not like eggs, eggs, eggs everywhere. Right. It's just it's just five men five and of those five three fertilize sear like any of my math people here. You're like, whoa. Okay. Three of those fertilized eggs only to make it today. Five and five day embryos are known as blast assists. They're like the holy grail of awesomeness like you want the five day embryos. They're the ones are going to be much more likely to implant. So of those two one is really badly fragmented, and that leaves one. But the heavens part, and this is the grade a lake beautiful golden embryo of my dreams. And so my skilled and super compassionate, reproductive endocrinologists implants, this one nothing left. Remember one beautiful blasts into my uterus on July twentieth of twenty sixteen. And then I wait we wait wait for proximity to weeks. I get blood work. The first test says you're pregnant. I don't believe anything yet. Second test still pregnant still not really believing because if you've gone through infertility and loss, you're like a believe it when I see it. So almost a month later, I go to the doctor's office with my mom. My husband had a work trip. He could not get out of. And this time I'm holding her hand and not some strange residents hand and this time on the screen. We see this beautiful flickering teeny tiny like the size of a poppy seed heartbeat. And then the reproductive endocrinologist turns up the volume like pump, and you see and hear the whoosh of the ocean. That's the heartbeat. It's like making contact with another world. And I just lose it. I start to cry cry and cry and I keep saying thank you think. You think you? But I wish I could say that like that was like my congratulatory I've made it I'm pregnant, but you know, I never felt like I was in the safe zone through my whole pregnancy. I was never the chicken that prenatal yoga class. He wore a t shirt that said, I'm so pregnant. Like, I didn't buy maternity clothes until I was twenty two weeks along because I thought something could happen. I didn't wanna baby shower until she arrived. And so I think that's one of the first lessons of becoming apparent especially after infertility. Nothing is a given. So my dad, and I are back at a greasy spoon. This time, we're not debating the metoo movement. Or why my father thinks soccer is a socialist sport. True story, by the way. This time. My seven month old daughter is sitting in his lap. And he's feeding her scrambled eggs, and he keeps calling her baby Kella because she looks his passing resemblance to her mama, and he is smitten. I mean, he is soft. He has cuddly the gruff and the direct exterior that he exhibits with me is not on display. There's no talk of cattle. We're drinking our coffee and enjoying each other's company. There might be some biscuits and gravy and. I say to my dad dad, I think sometimes I just feel like I have all my eggs in one basket. And he said, you know, what Kelly. It doesn't matter if it's one or four you always feel that way. And I thought yeah, I'm starting to get this. I'm starting to understand a little bit where my dad's coming from. And by the way, my daughter's name is Lucinda I named her after my father's grandmother. And her name literally means graceful illumination. And my daughter's existence has shown a light on so many things in my life. But especially in terms of thinking about my relationship with my dad, I have to think what must've felt like to hear your child. Tell you about a challenge that you have nothing to offer in terms of guidance in terms of understanding, I think about how perhaps the thing that he really struggled with wasn't that genetic lines are going to die out potentially. But his own genetic line is going to end. That his own mortality awaits. And so I make this moment in my mind, while we're in this little diner. And I look at my daughter, and I make a silent promise to myself. I say to her you are not your ability to procreate. You are loved and your whole. Thank you. That was Michaela eighth Orn michaela's as as and flash pros have appeared in New South the southeast review, the new territory magazine, midwestern gothic and a university of Missouri. Pressing Thalji words matter writing to make a difference. Her daughter Lucinda is one year old. Story clatter is grateful for the support of the Disney co foundation and of science sandbox Simon's foundation initiative dedicated to engaging everyone with the process of science story gliders directed by. Liz Neely me Aaron Barker without from amazing team stories featured in today's podcast from show is produced by Daniel, Christine, gentry allied chin and Zach Stovall withheld from Katie will the podcast is produced by Zoe Saunders that the music is by ghost especial, thanks to the Obermann and the ready room for thing. These shows and to all the parents and grandparents out there. Thank you. For listening to the story where the women are strong men are good looking and the storytellers are above average.
The Tongue-Cut Sparrow
"Details on this podcast are dark sometimes scary and full of adult themes as a warning. The original story of the tongue cut sparrow features animal cruelty mutilation some disturbing images and violent death. Please exercise caution for children under thirteen. Hot Sue heaved. Her heavy cotton sack onto the ground and sat beside the arched wooden bridge. She was eager to get home but at her age it was hard to go more than a few feet without stopping to rest as she sat hud superior inside the bag. It was filled to the brim with fiddle. Head ferns all thanks to advice from her neighbor. Your Giri Hot. Sue smiled in delight. She could already taste the sesame. Missile could go me that she would cook with them. Hot had been utterly bewildered by her neighbors sudden friendliness. Usually the only time Aguirre dressed her was when she was yelling about something. She constantly complained that their garden was overgrown. Their home was too shabby and their pets sparrow. Suzuki may woke her up with her singing. Such a sudden turn was unexpected. Hot Sue stopped when she made it to the top of the bridge from there. She had a good view of the little town. There were the narrow lanes of the Merchan- district the tiled roofs of the Temple Pavilion. And just down the road. The thatched roof of her own little cottage. Hot Sue smile faltered. There was something not quite right about the house. At first she couldn't put her finger on it but then it hit her. The door of Sousa's cage had been left wide open and it was completely empty. Hot sued dropped the bag of fiddleheads and began to run. Her heart was pounding as she wrenched open the garden gate and hurried up to the front porch. She saw their scent a chill down her spine. A trail of blood lead up the front steps. It stopped at the edge of the porch where something small and pink lay on the would. Hot Sue bent down and picked it up. Her eyes widened in horror as she realized that the object was the tiny. Tong of a sparrow. I'm Vanessa Richardson. You're listening to tales of podcast original every Wednesday. We dive into the dark origins of another fairy tale. You can find all episodes of tales and all other podcast originals for. Freon spotify or wherever you do podcasts. To Stream Tales for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type tales in the search bar at parkhouse. Were grateful for you our listeners. Who allow us to do what we love? Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram? At podcast and twitter at podcast network today will be telling the story of the tongue. Cut Sparrow a Japanese morality tale. Dating back to the sixteen. Hundreds the tongue cut sparrow. Is the heartwarming story of an unusual friendship and the bidder neighbor. Who TRIES TO DESTROY IT? The tongue cut sparrow is one of the five great fairy tales of Japanese literature. The first written versions were published in books called Koussa's Oshii thin illustrated volumes that were marketed to women and children. Though most of these Koussa were printed in the mid eighteen hundreds the tail itself likely goes back as far as the Sixteen Hundred Sixteen. O three was the beginning of the. Eddo period of Japanese history. It was a time defined by Japan's self imposed seclusion from the rest of the world in an attempt at National Unification Eddo period military leaders banned. Western literature prohibited the practice of Christianity and closed. Japan's borders folk tales were among the many art forms impacted by this period of isolationism. While other global folk tale traditions were heavily influenced by European imperialism. Japanese tales remained singularly. Japanese one unique aspect of Japanese. Folktales is the role of the elderly in European fairytales. Older people are often feeble or bedridden. They're rarely central characters. Conversely Japanese tales often have elderly protagonist. Who were just as active as any of the young heroes from their European counterparts in western folk tales. The antagonised usually comes from within the home. Villains are often father's stepmothers or siblings Japanese tails on the other hand traditionally include villains who live elsewhere often in a neighbouring house. This speaks to another significant difference in Japanese stories. The parents are often lovingly indulgent while European fairy tale parents tend to be neglectful or even cruel can see all these rules at work in the tongue. Cut Sparrow details adherence to the structure of a traditional Japanese. Very tale makes it the perfect archetype of an Eddo periods story. The tongue cut sparrow is a story that shows the love and devotion of Japanese parents but like all fairytales. It also shows the darker side of the people who conceived it. There's just as much cruelty as there is love in today's story but those who do harm often reap what they so yea geary awoke to the sound of laughter coming from the House next door. She groaned pulled the blankets up over her head and plugged her ears. Her neighbors bird had been chirping ever since the sun rose now that she had to listen to their in name chattering as well. She would never get back to sleep. Yogi Berra had known. She would hate her neighbors. Ever since they moved in. She'd been hoping that someone might tear down the ugly old wreck that stood next to her own immaculate home for the longest time then those two old folks had moved in and somehow manage to make the place even more of an eyesore the fact that they couldn't be bothered to hire a gardener or servants was bad enough but being woken up every morning. By their pets sparrow was more than she could take he giri Gary Lay with her fingers in her ears until her patience gave way she jumped out of bed and ran to the fence that separated the two houses. Ye Geary tugged. Her road closed as she peered over the fence. She glared at Hot Su who was sitting on her front porch and cooing to the sparrow. She yelled out. If you can't get that bird to shut its mouth. I'll shut it for you. Hot Sue gave her a smile and just as she did every day apologized and said she'd do her best to keep the bird quiet. It was infuriating. You Gary tried to push down the scream of fury that was threatening to burst out of her throat. She had plenty to do today and she couldn't afford to spend yet another day stewing in her bedroom. She decided to start with the laundry. Her made was a lazy young thing. And you Giri didn't trust her to get her linens properly washed and starched she set of freshly made of starch out on the Porch and went to fetch a wash basin. You Gary returned was about to start filling the basin with water when she saw something that made her blood boil sitting on the bowl of starch. Eating from it with its filthy beak was her neighbors. Berrow you Gerry shrieked in rage and ran toward the little bird. The Sparrow took off and flew in the direction of the neighbor's house. You Gary picked up the bull of starch and followed furiously to the fence. Hot was already. They're holding the trembling sparrow in her hands. Gary tried to keep her voice steady as she told the old woman what had happened. Hot Sue frowned asked if the bird had eaten all starch. Aguirre clenched her hands around the bowl and replied no. She didn't need all of it but all of is ruined. I'M NOT GONNA clean my clothes with something that has touched the filthy. Beak of a common sparrow hot. Sue smiled uncomfortably. She said she'd be happy to make you geary another bowl of starch. If she could wait a bit to wash her clothes ye geary felt her cheeks. Flush with Fury Hot. Sue always had to make it seem like she was being so generous when her pet had caused the problem in the first place the Gary finally lost control she hurled the ball of starch at the other woman's feet and stormed off. You Geary spent the rest of the day hidden away in her bedroom. All she could think about was the filthy bird touching. Its worm like little tongue to the starch. That she had worked so hard to prepare. She tried to distract herself by reading or sewing but there was nowhere in the house where she could escape. The infuriating chirping of the sparrow. All she could do was lay on her futons with her fingers in her ears even then every time she closed her eyes she saw hot sues smug face day turned into night. As her fury simmered down. The Aguirre began to formulate a plan. She might not be able to do anything to get rid of her infuriating neighbors but she could do something to make her own life more bearable. You would make sure that after tomorrow. That bird would never sing again the next day once hot sues husband had left for work in the fields. Yogi ran up to the fence that separated the two gardens. She called out to hot. Su who emerged from the house with a wary expression. You Gerry held her hands up in a placating gesture she said please. I'm not going to yell at you. I wanted to beg your forgiveness for losing my temper yesterday. Let me offer you something as an apology. Hot Sue smiled warily. And Kyrie continued. I know of a secret spot where fiddleheads grow there are so many you pick a whole wheelbarrow full. They won't be around for much longer. It looks like it's going to rain soon and the ravine will be flooded. Wanted does hot sue. Thank you geary for the tip. She remarked that her husband loved fiddleheads and she would go just as soon as she finished her morning tea yet. Gerry faked a smile and told her neighbor that she was glad to be of help. She waited until she was sure. That hot sue had left the house then. She climbed over the fence and into her neighbors garden. She crept down the overgrown stone path and up onto the porch. Yugiri gave a disgusted snort. When she saw the state of it in one corner there was a pile of dirty wooden sandals next to that sat a potted plant and a spade you. Gary understood that they were poor but she couldn't fathom why they would allow their home to be so filthy and disorganized. As she came around the porch she spotted the sparrows large bamboo cage. Her heart began to race when the bird saw her. It started flitting about wildly. You Giri carefully unlatched. The door making sure to block the entrance so the bird would not escape. You stuck her hand into the cage and took hold of the Frantic Little Bird. It struggled against her grip. She pulled out a knife and pried open the birds mouth. She held one finger in. Its beak to keep it from closing. She could feel the sparrows tiny heart pounding against her grasp you. Gary held the knife against the birds mouth and ever so carefully sliced out. It's tiny tongue. There was a good deal more blood than she had expected. Some of its spattered across the jury's face and even more drip out of the sparrows mouth as it flew away. She imagined that it would not live long after this of course that didn't matter to her. Your geary had accomplished what she had set out to do. One way or another the sparrow would never sing again coming up hot. Sue and her husband set off in search of their beloved pet. Now back to the story your Giri hated her. Elderly neighbors hot sue and Oishi and their endlessly singing sparrow in conniving act. She made an excuse to get hot. Sue Out of her house and then went up to the porch. Severing the Sparrows Tom. When Oishi arrived home from a long day of working in the fields he found his wife hot hatsuko sitting in a corner. She was weeping hysterically and clutching something in her fist. When he rushed to her side and asked what was wrong she opened her palm to reveal something. Small and pink hot explained how their neighbor Yugiri had sent her to a faraway valley to collect fiddleheads when she had arrived home. She'd found blood on the front steps and the tongue of their beloved sparrow. Suzuki may lying on the ground. She'd confronted the bitter old woman and Yiri hadn't even tried to deny it. Hot Sue looked up at her husband. Her eyes brimming with tears. She said su-mei flew away and she's probably dead by now. You don't think she's dead do you. Only she took his wife's hand. He told her that. Of course zoo may wasn't Ted. They would do everything they could to find her and make her well again. His wife's smiled up at him through her tears and he gave forehead a tender. Kiss only she went outside to look at the place where his wife had found the tongue. He noticed that the tiny drops of blood formed a trail leading out toward the woods. All She fetched his walking stick and then he and hot sue set off into the evening before long they'd lost track of the little red spots and had to resort to wandering around and calling out for their lost pet all. She tried not to show it but he was terrified that they might not find Suzuki. May he and hot sue had never been able to have children? And the sparrow had been like a daughter to them. He still remembered the Dave a little bird. I came into their lives. It had been the hottest day of summer. He and hot sue were sitting on the porch playing a game of Karnataka. When they heard the call of a bird high above them they looked up to see an enormous black crow chasing dainty sparrow through the trees. The Crow dove at the sparrow over and over again sometimes getting close enough to peck it. But each time the sparrow somehow managed to evade its pursuer. The two bird circled lower and lower. Until finally the sparrow flew directly through the open door of always. She's house and into his living room without even thinking about what he was doing. Oishi slammed the door shut behind it. The crow almost crashed into the closed door but managed to pull away at the last second. It hovered for a moment above. Oishi gave a frustrated cau- and then flew away as soon as it was gone. Oishi and hot sue hurried inside. The little bird was laying on a straw mat. She was bleeding and coughing. Pitifully Oishi marveled at how fragile she was as hot sue cleaned the blood from her red and brown feathers. They named her Sousa May and over the next few weeks. They nursed her back to health every day. Always she would come home from work and finds zoo may was a little more vibrant than the day before he wouldn't have thought it was possible that such a small bird could bring so much joy into their lives but with her sweet songs and tender nature. Sumi made each day a little brighter. Now she was out in the woods lost and hurt and alone unable to call for their help without a tongue evening faded into night a light rain began to fall but hot sue and Oishi were undeterred. They went deeper into the forest calling out for Su- Zuma as they went it to rain harder. Neither was wearing more than a thin cotton. Komo before long. They were both soaked to the bone even when the wind blew so hard that it nearly knocked them over. The couple did not give up only once. The storm had gotten too loud to continue calling out for bird. Did they decide to take shelter beneath a cliff? Always she and hot sue huddled together under the rock shivering and clinging to each other for comfort for the first time only. She began to think that Sumi might really be dead. He pictured her struggling against the wind and rain her mouth still dripping with blood. He imagined her getting thrown to the ground by the wind. Taking her last feeble breaths as she lay in the mud when it dawned on him that he might never see his little friend again only. She began to weep as the tears dripped. Don't his face. The storm outside began to ease up. A full moon emerged from behind the clouds lighting the forest with its soft silver glow. Hot Soup pulled on her husband's leave and told him to listen only. She dried his tears and stood up somewhere not too far off. He could hear the sound of a sparrow chirping always she helped his wife to her feet and the old couple hurried towards the source of the sound. Eventually they came in sight of a gnarled old willow tree there perched on one of the branches and bathed in Pale. Moonlight was Suzu. May the couple hurried up to her when they got closer. They saw to their astonishment that Susanna may had grown. She was now about two feet tall and wearing a red silk. Kimono Suzuki may spoke. She told the old couple that she was a magical sparrow. After the vicious neighbor had cut out her tongue she'd had to fly back to her family so they could care for her until she grew a new one. Suzue may embrace her old friends wrapping them in her red and brown wings. She said they should follow her home so she could show them the same hospitality that they had always shown to her. Only she looked at his wife. Hatsuko was smiling with tears of joy in her eyes without exchanging word. They both understood. Exactly what the other was thinking magic or not. They were both just glad that they're old. Friend was all right. The couple followed Zuma to a tunnel of trees as they stooped beneath the curved. Bamboo Arches Oishi noticed that he was suddenly warm and dry. Firefly's flitted about above their heads. Making the tunnel sparkle with a thousand tiny lights. The tunnel opened up to reveal a lush valley bathed in silver moonlight. Always she had never seen anything so beautiful. The steep cliffs that surrounded it were made of smooth. Amber Colored Rock Nestled in the center of the valley was an elegant Mountain House with a roof of handsome red tiles. Suzue may pulled. Open the door to reveal comfortable interior. Live by the warm glow of paper lanterns. The to humans had to crouch down in order to enter but once they did they saw that there were three more large sparrows inside. They were all dressed in garments of fine. Silk Suzuki may introduce them as her husband and children. Each sparrow elderly couple and thank them profusely for the many kindnesses they had done for Zoom Zoom. They knew that her old friends must be tired so she showed them to. A room laid out with a Futon and a blanket of fine white linen. She gave them both a peck on the cheek and bid them goodnight before closing the sliding paper door. No sooner had always she's head touched the silk cushion then. He found himself drifting off into strange dreams about talking timeless. Sparrows Oishi was alone in the bed when he awoke the next morning he walked out into the pleasant dining room to find Suzuki. May and hot sue waiting for him along. With Soom as Sparrow family. They were seated at a low table laden with the most sumptuous breakfast he had ever seen. Oishi piled his plate high with grilled fish rice and Tamagotchi. The food was far better than anything. He and hot soup could afford at home but what really made. The meal was being able to converse with Zuma and her family all those years he wondered. If the little sparrow could return the love. He felt for her and to hear that she did was worth more than even the finest meal the day passed in a happy blur of laughter and conversation. Finally as evening began to fall hot sued. Turn to her husband and asked if they should be getting home soon Oishi side. He knew that she was right. He rose quickly to his feet and announced that they would like to leave before it got dark. Suzuki may pleaded with him to stay just one more night. But the old man shook his head he would have remained with Susan man her family forever if he could but the last thing he wanted was to overstay his welcome. Suzuki may insisted that they should take a gift before they leave. Always she looked to his wife he supposed. It would be rude to refuse only. She sat back down and waited as the sparrow and her husband went to fetch the present when they returned. They were each carrying a wicker basket. Suzuki may told hot sue and always she that they should choose one of the two to take home with them. Suzuki may had given him so much already. Always she had no intention of being greedy he examined the baskets the one Sumi had been carrying felt as if it weighed nothing at all while the one her husband had brought seemed like it might have been heavier than he was. Oishi told Sousa may he would take the lighter basket as he was much too old to carry anything bad heavy down the mountain. He figured that whatever was in it must have been worth less than what was in the heavier one. Su-mei helped him strap the basket to his back and then walked him. Hot Sue out to the gate. She told them they were welcome to come back and visit whenever they liked always. She smiled at his old friend trying his best to hold back tears. His voice choked with emotion. Told her I'm glad to see you so happy but I will miss waking up in the morning to your songs. The sparrow raised her wings and embraced the old man and his wife one last time they started down the mountain. When Oishi looked back he saw that Susanna was still standing where they had left her watching them go. Hot Sue and Oishi were exhausted by the time they arrived back home. Hudson considered going straight to bed without even opening the basket but she could see from her husband's expression that he was eager to know what was inside hot. Sue Lit one of the tin oil lamps that hung in the door frame. She held it over basket as her husband. Pried Open the lid when she saw what was inside hot soon led out a little shriek. The basket was filled with riches. They were gold statues and Bolts of fine silk scrolls of expensive parchment the handle of jeweled dagger as only. She began to pull things out and marvel at the wealth within hot sue sound. It came from just outside the window. She ran to see what it was but when she looked around her dark garden she didn't see anything hot superior through the window a moment longer she just managed to catch a glimpse of a Pale figure vanishing through the door of her neighbors house when we return Yugiri attempts to acquire some riches of her own back to the story after seeing her neighbors return home with a collection of riches you. Gary was determined to get her own piece of the wealth next door the neighbors hot sue and Oishi were just waking up from a much needed night asleep when hot awoke. She couldn't help but think that the whole adventure had been some kind of wonderful dream. Was it really possible that she and her husband had gone looking. For their pets sparrow only to find her living a lavish house high up in the mountains. A small part of her even hoped that it had been a dream. If her neighbor you geary had never cut out the sparrows tongue. To begin with then sue may would still be here waiting patiently on the porch for hot sue to let her out of her cage but when hot sue emerged from her bedroom she saw that her visit to the. Sparrows House had indeed been real. The evidence was scattered all over the floor of her sitting room. The light wicker basket that the sparrow had given them contained more treasures than hot. Sue would have thought possible. Hot Sue saw that her husband always. She was seated in a corner of the room. Looking over some of the valuable scrolls that he had found in the basket. A single one would probably be worth as much as their entire house. Oishi and hot sue would never have to work another day in their lives. They could afford to fix up their home and hire servants to cook and clean for them all. This had come from their tiny pet sparrow. Hot Sue shook her head in disbelief as she sat down to begin sorting through her riches. Hot Sue heard a knock at the door. She got up to open it and was surprised to find your Gerry standing on her porch. Her neighbors is were downcast and her hands were modestly folded in front of her hot sue asked what she was doing there. And Yeah Geary. He gave an awkward cough. She said she couldn't help but notice that the old couple had been away all of the previous day. She claimed she was concerned for them and wanted to be sure that they weren't in poor health. Hot Su said they were doing just fine. Thank you you. Gary peered around her and said I can see that if you don't mind my asking. Where did you find these expensive things? Only she joined his wife in the door and told her that actually they did mind her asking. And if you gary had any sense she would get off their porch before he cut out her tongue. You he gave a haughty snort and said if you don't explain to me how you got this treasurer I may be inclined to assume it's been stolen and contact the authorities. Always she puffed up his chest but before he could say anything. Hod Soup put a hand on his arm and told him to be still only. She gave her a baffled look as she cleared her throat. Hot soon. Knew THAT ANTAGONIZING. Ya Geary would only make things worse for them instead. She decided to give the old woman what she wanted. She told you Gary all about what had happened to them in the woods she even explained how to get to the Sparrows House. You GERRI who now had a glint of greed in her eyes thanked hot for the information and turned to leave. Once she was gone Oishi burst out. Why would you betray our friend to that horrible woman? Hot Suit told her husband to relax. Suzu may was no ordinary sparrow. It was clear to her now that there was nothing. Aguirre could do to hurt their little friend. She smiled and said in fact. If I were you I'd be more worried about what su-mei might do to her. Yugiri wheezed as she made her way down. The mountain pass hot. Sue hadn't mentioned that the way to the sparrows house was so treacherous. She supposed that the stupid old cow thought she wouldn't be able to get through such difficult terrain. She could just see the horrible pair sitting in the middle of all their new treasures laughing about how their neighbor would never make it to the Sparrows House. The thought of it made ye geary walk a little bit faster after what felt like days of walking Ye. Geary finally came to the row of bamboo trees. As she passed through it she began to yell for the Sparrow to come out and greet her. The Sparrow was already standing on the porch. When she entered the clearing Y- Gerry had never seen anything so disgusting and unnatural as an overgrown sparrow. But she kept her opinions to herself instead. She greeted the bird as though she were an old friend. She said she'd come to apologize for the wrong. She had done in cutting out the sparrows tongue. The Sparrow balance a bit stiffly and invited you geary in for tea. Gary entered the little house. And the sparrow. Set Out two cups of tea for them. She was disappointed to find that there was no food of any kind. The Sparrow could not even be bothered to set out a few cakes so much for the hospitality. She'd been promised the two sat together in uncomfortable. Silence before you. Gary stood up and announced that she'd better be heading home. The Sparrow nodded her head and pointed towards the door for a moment. Yugiri just stood there unsure of what to do then she burst out. I've traveled an awfully long way just to see you when apologize. Don't you think it would be rude to send me home without any kind of parting gift? The Sparrow looked at her. Her black is unreadable then. She nodded and left the room when she came back. She was accompanied by another sparrow. They were each carrying a wicker basket. They set them down in front of you yeary and asked which one she would like to take you. Geary examined the two baskets determine which one was the heaviest and hoisted it up onto her back. She didn't bother to say goodbye. To the sparrow or even thank her for the gift as far as you. Giri was concerned. The bird hadn't been particularly hospitable. She'd just as soon. Never see another sparrow as long as she lived year. Set the basket down on her living room floor and collapsed beside it. Night had fallen alarmingly fast on her arduous trip. Back Down the mountain forcing her to struggle back home in the dark. She was exhausted grumpy and sticky with sweat. All she wanted to do was open her gift up and examine her rich is but first. She had to make sure that she was completely alone. You geary went around and closed her windows and sliding screen doors. Finally she approached the basket. Open the LID and peered inside. At first. She was confused. There didn't seem to be anything inside. Just an impenetrable blackness that went on and on like a bottomless pit but as she peered into the basket a mosquito flew out and stung her on the cheek. It was followed by another mosquito and then another. Yugiri waved the bugs away from her face. She tried to slap them. But soon there were too many. She backed away from the basket as more and more. Mosquitoes flew out of it then. She saw something that sent shivers up her spine. A hairy black leg. The size of her arm clutched the rim of the basket. Yugiri watched in horror as the thing pulled itself out of the basket. It had the body of an enormous spider but the head of a screaming woman with long dirty hair. More nightmarish creatures emerged from the basket behind it a legless man with bloody sockets where his eyes should have been a dog like creature with a gaping toothy mouth instead of a face and an endless flood of shattering skulls. Gary looked for an escape route. But she'd shot all the doors and windows the bugs were swarming in her face stinging and biting her eyes her lips and her hands as the monsters descended upon her Yugiri finally found her voice and began to scream but it was too late when the spider creature reached her. The very first thing it did was tear out her tongue. The isolation of Japan's Eddo period lasted over two hundred years beginning in eighteen. Fifty three pressure from merchants and foreign nations resulted in Japan gradually opening its ports to outsiders for the first time in over two Hundred Years. Western nations had access to Japanese art and culture. A craze for collecting Japanese art swept across Europe. Those who had art to sell found a thriving market in cities like London and Paris one. Such merchant was a textbook salesman named Taka. Jiro Hasegawa between eighteen. Eighty five and nineteen twenty two Hosokawa published twenty volumes of illustrated Japanese fairytales printed on delicate crepe paper with traditional woodblock printing. One of the earliest editions of these books was a short volume containing the story of the tongue. Cut Sparrow. The Stories inclusion in Hasegawa was collection as well as a general hunger for Japanese. Cultural imports spurred its popularity and led to the tongue. Cut Sparrow being reprinted in seven different tale collections. Over the next fifteen years as western audiences red and rewrote the story many chose to interpret it as a revenge. Tale the sparrow purposefully destroying the wicked neighbor as a punishment for cutting out her tongue. However this analysis ignores the cultural context. The story Japanese stories from the Eddo period often follow elderly couples on a symbolic path to spiritual enlightenment. The characters in the tongue cuts barrow are presented with choices throughout the narrative. Time and again. The neighbor makes selfish choices while the elderly couple makes generous ones when the neighbors finally dragged off by demons. It's not in retribution. For a single action but the natural ending point for her selfish approach to life. The elderly couple on the other hand are taken from their ordinary lives and elevated to a plane of eternal happiness. Thanks for listening to tales. We'll be back next week with a new episode. You can find more episodes of tales and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not only despite if I already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like tales for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream tails on spotify. Just open the APP tap browse and type tales in the search bar. And don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram. At podcast and twitter at podcast network. Join me next week for another dark. And surprising fairy tale tales was created by Max Cutler and is a podcast studios original executive producers include Max and Ron Cutler sound design by Kerry Murphy With Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro Carly Madden and Freddie Beckley. This episode of Tales was written by Zoe. Louis Louis with writing assistance by Greg. Castro I'm Vanessa Richardson.
Frederic Chopin 2: The Polonaise
"Hello, welcome to classics for kids. I'm Naomi Lewin. That's the beginning of pollen is a dance by Frederic Chopin. When I was a kid. I thought the Polin is might be from Polynesia, but Pullen is is how you say polish in French at the time when the pollen is was fashionable dance in the polish court polish courtiers also thought it was more fashionable to speak French the pollen is a very dignified dance actually more like a procession at first only men did the Pullin as sweeping off their hats or drawing their swords at various points in the music. Later on in history. Women were allowed to join in the pollen as which became the dance that opened every ball since the pollen is involved a procession through all the rooms of a palace. It was a good way for the host to show off his home. The most important person at the ball headed up the pollen as procession he was known as the Lord of the dance. The pollen is caught on all over Europe. And even migrated to America, John Phillips Sousa wrote his presidential Pullen as after president, Chester. A Arthur said he wanted a piece to replace hail to the chief. That's the music's played. Whenever the president makes his entrance needless to say it didn't. Operas especially Russian operas dance. The Pullen as Modesto Zork ski put one into his opera Boris good. No. And in child kofsky opera, Jean-Ann Yagan. There's a wonderful Polonez. After a while composers began to use the slow rhythmic one two three of the nez as as a form for non dancing, instrumental pieces fronts Schubert wrote this poem is for his violinist brother to play. Antonin version. Composed a poem as that he could play at the Pierre. No, along with cellist friend of his. And when they asked unattainable yacht off to write music for the unveiling of a statue at the Saint Petersburg conservatory. Composed Apollon as. Since he was born in Poland Frederic Chopin was probably more passionate about the poem as than most composers. In fact, the very first pieces he wrote were polonaises. Because of the way Frederic Chopin has the piano imitate the sort of drum used to keep soldiers marching in line. Another one of his polonaises is known as the military pollinates. The military pollen as one of sixteen polonaises for solo piano by Frederic Chopin next week on passes for kids more music with a military theme. I'm Naomi Lewin, high right classics for kids and produce it with Tim lantern at WG UC Cincinnati, please join me again for more classics for kids.
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I saw that in meghan home one time in in old mexico. You saw that personally yes but when you when you guys the tijuana we fish free. Martine took back to his place his where his family was. We took a nap because we were tired. This isn't where <hes> <hes> tourists go either this. Is you know the family in that lives in tijuana which is not where you see. We'll use to be able to see all the tourist attractions and everything this was like the real deal no english at all except for martine who who worked with me in calif- in the guy that i knew from <hes> uh-huh from back home that got me the job there and the whole thing could not get it through is mine that the guys names martina it's martine. Martine is the spanish version of martin. Martinez is the spanish version of a female name martina uh-huh so hard for him to understand each country and probably never been around spanish speaking people for well. I thought about let you last night t._j. Watching ninety day fiance because this is the one where they go to other countries yeah eh there was a guy that was flying to kenya to see his girlfriend a friend another guy meet his girlfriend and another guy was flying to somewhere lady flew to forgot where she went <hes> tunisia. Maybe <hes> and it takes about ten seconds for the shot of the city not as nice as america y you're going there. They should be coming to you. I guess they can travel but man. It doesn't take any anytime at all to see anything up. Nope not as nice. I mean in mass not is nice. It's just not working because you can tell. The plumbing seems to be a big thing in most of these places. There's a nascent t._j. Radio family member listens to us all the time and since his facebook messages during a little segments where we ask for comments and stuff. She's on that show on ninety day fiance yeah her name's veronica. She was engaged to one of the guys. That's now proposing the who he's now in in south america colombia yeah. I've seen on that show yeah jeeze. Here's she lives in in our home market of he won't tell her all. His name begins with the two zero. She's on the show. She showed it shows that she's in charlotte and what's his name because because the tim tim tim just his he just flew down last night. I fell asleep while he was gone. You just met her. He just met in his his south american girlfriend last night. Yeah yeah this is this is his ex fiancee and their tam veronica are raising a raising veronica's child from different got together. Even though they're not together anymore they're like best friends and tim's new woman in south america to not like that fact and he was about to break it to her that they were really close and i fell asleep and haven't seen it so thankfully d._v._r. We are catchable met this afternoon. She's very pretty too. I don't know if they show that part of it. Do show that part of it. Yes they have shown that part of it too because they showed her on t._v. But i know ya know who that is if they her screen name shows up on facebook whenever she sends messages all that stuff very exciting though that i didn't know that see that oh no that would be yeah well. That's cool but i've never seen the show but i <hes> i saw her on a promo. One time watching <hes> dr pimple popper something isn't that the same network and they showed a promo for that show and said that looks looks like that later the messages us all the time and sure enough photographic memory boom there yet is her is her ex they were engaged and they got underway and she just gave him the engagement ring back and said you feel free to give this to the new girl goes well while you're down there but she's not really that fond on veronica's not that fond of what what tim is doing also because the new girl in south america isn't that fond of the fact that veronica and timber still very close she does he realize how close they are going to be even less fond of it. It's very exciting can't wait to watch the rest of it between me and my man named caesar who lives in jacksonville north carolina who just can't grasp yet. Maybe he did last night. Cannot grasp that the woman he's been sending money to for five years who lives in somewhere in the eastern bloc of europe. She ain't they come friend. She's not meeting you in mexico and he just flew to mexico by himself to meet her and it ain't happening and it's mark breaking because he's a sweet sweet man and i love him but dump it <hes> do they show <hes> veronica being funny because she sends us some her comments that she sends about stuff a really funny funny yes. She was making jokes at. She threw him a going away party. She was making joe. He didn't think they really funny but everybody else. They're thought they were very funny. She was she was pretty humorous. He was on the she made. A couple of funny jokes jokes anymore like this really serious yeah. She sends us may my date another. Somebody like that listens to our show. What do you mean somebody. That's on national t._v. Show the joy of joys what we do. That's cool. That's exciting. <hes> you know you're more famous than she is. I don't think so she's on t._v. Show that's been seen all over the world well. I'm more downgrade yourself. I'm kidding. We got a lot of today's show but first thing i do. We have the next old town road. Is it sitting out there waiting on you to find it because it hit streaming services over the weekend i and it very well could be all right. Quick test when i said first things first what popped into my mind the rest of that. I'm a realist or think marinela a delicious audience next it doesn't take of focus group to name a papa john's pizza with five of our best meets. Just take a norm despite and blow it out the first thing you think of me with an s. meets plural used in a sentence there would be like holy cow. That's a lot of meat now. If you'll excuse me i'm going to go enjoy the meats and my labour try large meats or works but just twelve bucks only papa john's the valley with other discounts these tax extra prizes move very it's already time to get fall and holiday travel plans together our travel agent michelle charges no fees and will bring her thirty years of tricks of the trade to get you the best deals possible. There are now also payment options with no additional fees unlike the cruise lines and land packages just email michelle at travel at as t._j. Dot com that's travel at ace t._j. He jay dot com t._j. Show presents today's delicious audio in nineteen weeks at number one old town road way down the chart but is this the next old town road rapper young brave lyngdoh chicago's kylo zone chief key for new song hit streaming services of the weekend. It is tampa bay bus down. It was added over six million playlist this in two days here. We got the glock look <music> a baptized in montana hoji. The puck steel toed gucci's at four fifty whippet like a who team up to the garth brooks show for the groupies shooting ducks. We all turned it to say maybe the glock we don't hang by wondering yes. I think these subject matters got to keep that from being a massive hit. Okay now far be it for me to criticize a song because it is about gang violence silence when that is my absolute favorite type of music the west coast you know the rap. The rap stylings in the hip. Hop stylings of <hes> of ice is cuban w._c. And mac ten young malay all of those but that's just not this this country country rap kind of thing i don't. I don't really like minded. I just don't know if the if the if the lyrical content fits with the style of of what they're doing if that'll prevent it from being a huge hit. I don't know i think it's catchy. I think is kind of a rip off of the stylings of the other one. Oh sure i i mean bring back. Bubba sparks this what we're going to come on now. Bring back bubbas barnes. Although chief kief always been one of my favorite nicknames. I like that and then young gravy is not bad. He pretty clever so billy. Eyelashes brother is a main player in her success. If you remember the story originally he was the one that wrote her songs on her first album before the one became a big hit and they tried to pass them off as hers <music> then people found out and became a thing they perform together onstage. He helps her create her music. They do pretty much everything together but he has got his own solo career. Go and now he's he's got. A new song called shelter dropped over the weekend. They caught us <music> but not to want to be the one to keep your bones. Make ah these keep you aw obvious yeah that's cool. I am curious to see what he does writing for him for himself because he's really involved musically in what is that she's done in the past curious to see how he does on his own stylus through a little bit different and when he writes her music he writes with her. You wrote her right. He wrote her first album yeah and they said that they they tried to pass it off that she wrote it at age thirteen or something and and it kinda came to light that he really did all the writing on it yeah. I think it's weird when you work with a sibling like you know do they. She's the main artist so yeah. I think you know. I don't know if i ever heard her. Say like i wrote all those songs but i think it's weird we work with and how old is he just slightly older in his early twenty s i think and mash up monday it to my personal favorites. I haven't heard the shadow of works bruno mars all american rejects <music> uh-huh they would like to see them do the the other one bruno mars on top the american reject song. I think this is the ace and t._j. Show just never cared for that type of music to winding ooh who rejects that that whole genre of music is just a bunch of wine and to me to my ears all right ladies. You know you hate spiders right. Some of you like snakes the weird ones of you out there like snakes but pretty much. All ladies hate spiders well. We have a story of a lady and her spider. That's gonna make you hate him even more because this spider was not content just to sit down beside her coming up next more a._c._t. I was watching this show. The other day and the show was with a doctor that invented <hes> a big diet plan. That's very popular right now and the thing that stood out the he said was make sure you're getting collagen collagen. We lose that over time. We're born with it but i've been taking a product called callo turin that replaces that college and that's what it is it's collagen. It's not a drug stimuli free so you don't have to worry about it. Mess with any of your medications that you're already taking and you lose. Wait the healthy way. It's not fast and overnight but the healthy way plus lots of other beneficial sleep better. You'll feel better you helped with your joint. Pain helps an acid reflux and right now. Calcitrate has has a labor day special. Buy three get three free. Just go to top loss dot com t. o. p. l. o. s. dot com plus use the promo code ace t._j. A._c._t. c._e._t. Jay and get free shipping by three get three free right now. Top loss dot com with callan and don't forget the promo code ace t._j. For free shipping hey look we hope w. aren't but we know you may be going through a tough time with a divorce. The good news is we know someone who can help our friend kristen at better. Divorce believes leaves. There's a win win settlement option for every divorce and can save you thousands of dollars in the process just email better divorce at ace t._j. Dot com. That's better divorce force at ace t._j. Dot com and let our friend kristen help you. You'll be connected refunding with the t._j. Show on subscribe on itunes or simply search with alexa gets the a._c._c. t._j. Show on demand now t._j. <hes> sas sassy. She's gonna sit around eight soup and bread and get fat and say oh well. Do you hate spiders or snakes more snakes more for sure all right. Do you mind spiders or you hate those as well <hes>. I don't wanna look at one but i don't mind inasmuch. Okay so if a spider got onto you somewhere like if it if it got onto your arm and when you look down sossamon crawl on your arm and it was a spider. Would you freak out a little bit but not like you would have no you wouldn't kill it by auger the episode snake. I'm probably won't bother you at all. Did this lady in kansas city <hes> m._o. That stands for modus operandi. She named suzie torres. La me starring in kansas city. She went to the doctor because she thought she had <hes> santa little water. A little tickle inner ear doctor checked her out wasn't water it was this is living in her ear. Any eddie spider any idea how long the spider have been her ear no idea how long had been in there but also no idea what type of spider it was until it came out and it was a brown recluse oh in her ear inn. Luckily it had not bitten her now. Please as a public service to all of you listening to show because i i love each and every one a y'all especially my southern brethren and sister and please take note of this. She was bitten by a spider. She wasn't bit by spider. She didn't get bit valid point. She got bitten although she didn't so so we would say she did not get bitten by the spider she the not get bit my spider but that is one of the in america isn't that the high most <hes> highly venomous spider. There is an american. I know in australia. They always tall stuff in australia business. I know that it just just bring you down. That's what your ex wife was bitten by a central <hes> mercer in a coma full coma to not a semi coma ride a real coma all right. I'd kill it okay but would it creepy out more of you if they put a live spider out of your ear than if a snake slithered by knowing that it's a highly venomous emma spider yeah that's worse in your ear. I mean and it's poisonous. He said and it's in your ear. Would you rather be in your your nose ear. Yeah with i don't want anyone knows i mean and we can stop with those two cavities. They don't want to get to the rest of the body. It does is it makes you kind of shake your head. Shake it as as but yes. That's it makes everybody kinda. There's a scandal involving a woman who broke the glass s. ceiling one of the one of the biggest glass ceilings in the world was broken by this woman and <hes> now. There's a the scandal that every proud woman and america's probably now going no no no. No you know kind of like a southerner who's who's gots to sophisticated and has class when we turn on the maury show and there's some white trash up they're throwing shoes each other and all that break it so you next jay show want to save up to seventy five percent on domestic or international airline tickets. Then call low cost airlines for prices so low. We can't publish them. Call eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen eight hundred two eight seven forty seven sixteen coming up on the ason t._j. Show the big news. I was just comp- when i saw this he was yesterday i saw the store. Maybe maybe saturday. I dunno sometime over the weekend. I saw this and the first thing that blew me away our way to go. We now have space ladies okay. They let ladies go into space now. They've been letting lady's gonna space for a long time yeah well i mean i know that bless her heart. They let that teacher go into space that when we were the kids ace and that you know that that sad situation but i didn't know that they were full and and this is so cute they let them call themselves. Astronauts now still they go on a lot so pretty been going into <hes> sas. Here's where you need to say. He's just kidding say that. He's just kidding. He knows better. He knows better as just having fun. He's just having fun. Thank you told me yeah because that's what the consultant people say. I need to say that or offend women so there you go got the disclaimer. It just joking. This astronauts name is ann mcclain and she and her wife no and that's not a misprint. Ladies actually can get married now but you have to become an astronaut i they only allow lady astronauts samari other ladies know that for a fact that i'm not joking about that never seen that anyway. I'm not sure that it is you gotta. Pass all those you you know gravity tests and whatnot so anyway she and her wife sadly wife's name summer she and some are going through a divorce and summer said that while <hes> an was was aboard the international space station on a mission this she that <hes> and the astronaut hacked into a summer mahathir wife's bank account from out of space. That's crazy. This lady lady space woman person was out of space ace in out of space hacking in to her estranged wife's bank account according to the estranged wife the first crime ever committed in outer space <hes> of course an is denying the claims <hes> the u._s. does have plans in place for crimes committed in space snot like international waters or something where anything goes and would be facing regular criminal charges here on earth if she's charged. It's not like international waters like where rules laws don't apply right yeah. That's the way they wrote it here. So who owns out of space right. I would think there would be more of the you know. It's a crime being committed on u._s. Government property rather than crimes committed because then you gotta draw the line ago all right wh- wh- country owns out of space who's going to prosecute me and i know my rights nervous komo governor yeah so they. They're calling this identity theft yeah but my wife is in my bank account every day. You can have her arrest. She's all up in mind but her name is on. It also not know that i've never seen it. I don't do you get your bank account today t._j. It depends on how much banking i gotta do if it's a dry out some money from one of those machines yes if it's a check a balance or do the transfer of some sort. No i mean i have the authority. I just don't have the nautilus. It's it's passwords and stuff. We've been in an airport before and t._j. Choice goes against. I don't know how to get money out of this thing. You put your bankcard in like a regular person. I used to but i don't. I haven't done it in so long. I know i've never seen like an adult not not easy <music> coming up on now trending report. I know how to use the a._t._m. Just didn't have a card for a long time. Look i didn't get a new so many things happen this weekend disney news in less than ten minutes and now trending doing doing t._j. Show now one triple eight forty one k. 's t._j. And then there's the important stuff the stuff that's trending where we cover all the top trending topics of the morning at the top of every hour in the top trending topic this morning hashtag international dog day so people are sharing cute pictures of their dogs all over social media. Please send us yours flawed our timeline with it's a little bit of joy on a monday morning that would be great followed by hashtag monday morning monday motivation monday five blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah but over the weekend he can it was the disney expo friday saturday sunday and they slammed these three days with new shows new movies all about their disney plus streaming service ervices goes live in november which seems like it's going to be a great deal in could affect netflix overall. Is it lizzie mcguire coming back so that's what i was going to talk about. Lizzie mcguire is coming back sass. Where are you at lizzy. Mcguire fan or was your daughter's into louisiana hilary duff one of the early things. Maybe my daughter's first concert of her own that she was like hey. I want to go see this without lizzie mcguire hilary do they got to me hillary duff when they were you think your daughter as her name's payton was about five or so and laney was four. I mean they were really small because i remember hillary duff was twelve or thirteen right and <hes> she when she salad like oh they're so little and <hes> yeah that may have been their first celebrity meeting you know riding on the coattails of their father's success in the industry industry as a kid. That's probably as big as it got. I mean that was like meeting. <hes> through is bigger than her so she's reprising her role as as lizzie mcguire now living in new york city is like a you know a wiser smarter more city savvy person but they brought her out on stage and people were freaking out. It was the top trending topic on friday friday afternoon through the evening. People vary gordo going to be on there. I don't know gordo her her best guy friend but chelsea's <hes> on the <hes> <hes> the new ravens but that other guy her friend <hes> he can't get his life together on the outside. What was his name names orlando brown. What was his name on the show here on that's so raven eddie eddie don't will you be <hes> keeping up with you looking forward to seeing lizzie mcguire on twitter all day day just trying to find out who is going to be on this eleven or twelve dollars a month. I thought it was even cheaper than maybe so eight bucks. It's every disney movie. All these shows and it's gonna be a ton of people that are gonna be pretty decent value. Yeah absolutely says yes or no you have in your life either at at least once stood with stick or something that looked like a wand and tried to make the mickey mouse ears as they were like they used to do on disney in the <music> multiple multiple times are apparent to watch right kids okay plus their overhauling epcot and a lot of new additions to the disney theme parks of that was like an entire day so just disney like dominated the weekend with their with their expo but did you see a death row. Records is now going to be owned by hasbro which owns potato mr potato head compete. We're just kind of thrown by that. It's part of a four billion dollar. Entertainment mass media you deal are they. Please tell me they're going to change the name to hasbro. Oh man as i just thought of that right that second. That's good head. They need to pay me if they do as you're taking credit for that yeah people were just floored by that weird announcement and there's a breaking bad movie coming very soon featuring jesse pink men. If you're into breaking bad you already know <hes> but it was a big deal when that trailer dropped over the weekend so all those things are naturally okay. Hey <hes> the saga of riggins in his <hes> his crush dog walker. She said goodbye saturday saturday moving away. We'll find out how that went next the acing t._j. Show in your connected with your funniest friends. This is the show okay is need to get right into this because what everybody's been wondering about <hes> to catch you up if you haven't been following the saga but you should always follow the sagas of of everything on the ace and t._j. Show there's no reason for you to miss it because you know we're live. We're on our app. We're on <hes> <hes> podcast. You get all of that stuff. You know information go as t._j. Dot com you can listen anytime you are apps sponsored by papa john's and they make sure that <hes> you're able to do that free. <hes> riggins has become best friends with the <hes> the woman who walks his dog her name's dog walker. She's from el salvador adore. They've become best friends. He's developed a crush on her <hes> all last week. We were trying to get him to confess his feelings for her. Before she moved off to another state with her <hes> much older boyfriend <hes> he's been super sad about it and saturday saturday was moving day for her. We've purposefully not ask him any details because we didn't want to know until <hes> we can all find out together you you and us so riggins break it down. She left. She's gone <hes> and it was really hard for me. It didn't seem like it was as big of a deal to her which doesn't hurt my feelings and all it's just life. I mean you know i i don't know what with saturday or sunday that she left saturday and was there a good bhai moment yes yeah it did did you get up and help her with anything final packing or any carrying stuff to the truck or do any of that kind of stuff no okay no <hes> but i will say a on friday she had my dog and i went home to go collect him and she wasn't responding to any my text messages which was really weird and then i thought oh my god she had been talking for a long time about like i'm going to take him with me. I'm going to keep him. Put him in the box. Take with me and then friday. She didn't respond to any taxes. I went. Oh my god. She's stolen my dog. She's from el salvador like. I don't know how things go down there like about the people getting kidnapped all time. Maybe she'd just like a dog like she's screwed me over. She stole my dog but he was fine but he was fine. Yeah <hes> <hes> but yeah it was really hard. I'm like emotional thinking about it because yeah. I've lost a good friend and so. Where did you say goodbye. Did you follow her when she plays her play. How did that. How did the whole all thing come to an end. I said i didn't wanna say buying lobby because there's a lot of people around and i said i'd rather just say by appear that way. I'm not like you you know ryan and lobby or something it'd be ridiculous and i know this sounds silly but yeah. She's one of the few people that i have created a bond with in my adulthood that it's the first time in a long time i've had to say goodbye to somebody so you know it was a lot but yeah it's life. You've got to move on so she came into your apartment to tell you goodbye yeah say by the dog she <hes> yeah was her boyfriend with her down in the truck or wherever they were moving or whatever yeah he was movin stuff <hes> she just came up to say buying zapped long hug no embrace of just it seemed that it was more much more emotional for you than it was for her because she was upbeat. I can't believe a muffing ping. It's a crazy is very crazy. I i don't know what i'm gonna do. I've told her for months like i don't know what i'm gonna do without you and i meant that in a lot of ways like you you know not just her services as a dog right and she knew that so but she was she's excited about moving and i'm happy for and you know and where is she move <hes> <hes> like virginia area okay so and then she leaves yeah you close the door <hes> what happens inside your apartment. <hes> what happened in i you know sat and sat on my couch and kind of it was a miserable day like on top of it. It was cold and rainy out and i was i went into a catatonic state. I was a little depressed so i had to get out eventually and walk in the rain and i was like this is like you know if you've ever walked in the rain and you're soaking wet. It's just some pleasant but yeah <hes> yeah. I mean you know catatonic state that means funk right into a font now have you how long if if at all did you wait until your texted each other at the next day i had had ago you get moved in oh you initiated or she did. I did just to check in but she's gonna make it safely. Yeah <hes> pretty much so yeah. I've lost. I've lost a good friend and there's always facetime. There's always fails. I mean it's yeah. It's not like anybody died this silly. I'm a grown man like but you know we're either also something to do <hes> after she left and you went back in and into your catatonic state did you shed any tears a yoga yeah but i mean as he really didn't care about her that much because he wants to put his shoes on go down to the lobby and walker out come to me. They want to be a moshav avi. I'm not trying to you know shoes on dress s. jacket on ross swing by here. Say goodbye to me on my term. Yeah i will one funny moment moment. Our last we went on one more walk with the dog and i stepped in a hole again. There's like holes all over the city. I stepped in a whole twisted my ankle and from my twenty feet away. She erupts rops and laughter all right. You can go now over you know i i did. I thoroughly enjoyed her friendship and her <hes> you know time and not to mention them. You did <hes> want to make a kiss a touch of one another keke yeah. I think we would have been good together right but she's got a whole life. You know it's not about me. It's about you know she's moving on and doing things and i'm not going to slow her down. She's in a good long. Term committed relationship and i like it. You know i met them together. As a couple i became close to him and he was an instrumental part in you know watching my dad he would watch her. He would watch my dog when she wasn't around he. She has given me a ton so it really it. Was you know about him as well and i always enjoyed him. He's a good guy so you know because he <hes> he dealt with the <hes> the irritating stuff yeah her imagine you got the fun go dog-walking go shop in listening to her broken english an- and laugh with her and all that yeah he got the where you being examined there you go on your always gone. He comes home from work. You know and she's like i'm leaving. You can watch the ducks and now he's watching my dog. When she's an isn't around so i give him a ton the credit he and he's one of the nicest i could tell you are horrifying story about something that happened with them and my dog that just shows his loyalty and he was he was just a good is a good deal and and she's a good girl woman young woman so new dog walker today avenue dog. I got to figure out what i've got somebody temporarily but i'm gonna try to find somebody that can be there every day and all that stuff but it's it's more about losing a friend and i can find a new dog walkers dog walker on quo took inspector upset on sunday morning. She's not here today. I'm saying yeah. I haven't even thought about dogs yeah. I know we've got about the dog altogether. Sorry oops. Sorry riley all right. We've done this many times and you seem to enjoy it but something happened so <hes>. It's great excuse to do it again. Who has a bone to pick with one of the story that goes along with his <hes>. Actually very disturbing to me happened to me okay so we'll do that next. There's more as a d._j. Coming up the t._j. Show podcast are your your way to stay connected funny after the show's over more show total recall ason t._j. And thirty and cast shows are all available through itunes and most other podcasts services dow time-to-time we on the show <hes> inadvertently accidentally offend people <hes> this is t._j. Ivo have a wife named jodie and we have these friends who are so so oh close to us they <hes> i'm not exaggerating when i say these two people are high on my list of all time favorite people in the entire world <hes> their names are <hes> pam and david aka pancakes and david <hes> he he is a methodist preacher. He was our first preacher when we moved to <hes> the charlotte north carolina area and they were our first <hes> couple friends really that we got close to of course outside of ace and his wife but i mean that the meaning the ones that when we moved here that were here here she was in the delivery room with both of my children's births and they didn't even happen on the same day she made two trips to the hospital years years apart couple years yeah three years apart impressive yeah so <hes> they've moved around you know throughout the state and i'm because he's a methodist this preacher and they do that well. He's been at this church in gastonia north carolina for a while which is close to where we live and <hes> we were having dinner with him eating them for dinner friday night again without exaggeration. We love them like family and have never had any drama with them. They're always the ones that we can go to you know. We don't see them for six months. We see him. It's like seeing your brother and sister or whatever well pam cakes pancakes had a bone to pick with me as soon as she walked in and <hes> i was taken aback as i said aback back taken aback by the situation because it's never happened. Nothing like that would have has ever not across word nothing and she said well. We've been doing okay for you know weird adults that like to go to disneyworld without their their kids. Oh <hes> seems that on the show riggins was making fun of adults who go oh to disneyworld without any kids and say that that was weird and she thought i said i was gonna say because that was it you that said but it was rigged. Well okay. I mean i did ah on up to it because i you know i don't really remember all the stuff that we're trying to and i could have made jokes here there about it <hes> but but i thought riggins was the latest. He went farther in it than i did but she said no it. I heard it and you're you're saying it to and she wasn't really mad bad for you. Know for there to be any kind of having to say i'm sorry or you know being ill at ease and i mean i didn't apologize. Ask because i mean i i i went on and joked about it more to kind of get through it like i normally just double down but she and <hes> pam women david for their thirtieth wedding anniversary had gone to disneyworld to enjoy it as adults because they've never seen it as just adult. They've always been there with kids and in riggins world world they're weird. I don't know that they're weird but what they do is definitely should listen to what you've already on what you do and i it's not interested interestingly so it. It reminded me that we haven't done this in a while. Where <hes> you will call r._d._b._m._s. and say all right. I have a bone to pick with breath whichever show member because we said something or did something offended you or that you didn't like or you need farther further explanation on it <hes> because we get that in public a lot will meet people who listen to the show he nice to meet you. I'm t._j. <hes> what's your name rhonda. Listen listen. I got a bone to pick with you that day. You said that you know whatever whatever pit bulls don't look good with ponytails ahead of you know that my pity has a ponytail tayo then she looks great now <hes> eric who messages us all the time said i i have a bone to pick with regan's because <hes> we never got to see a pick of dog walker so there you go so is it because you were offended because because you know brigands said adults should go to disneyworld without kids or any look if it's a political thing that you got a bone to pick with me about the don't do that because i'm not gonna argue with you and then people the majority of the people listen to the show agree with me and they're going to be disappointed if i don't destroy you and your when you call in with that and i'm not gonna do that cilicia. Keep it simple and keep it. You know out of the political round. We know if you're a liberal you have a bone to pick with me at all times uh-huh so they got that so one triple eight forty one as t._j. Or d. m. s. what's the bone. You have to pick with one of us in the show coming up on the ace and t._j. Show will eighty-one admit yes. I'm just toying with their feelings right now and why we'll find out about thirty minutes on the ace and t._j. Show so <hes> who's got a bone mm to pick with one of us. Think the i'm sorry. Did you hit the microphone with your head. It was my hand okay. What does that sound that wasn't distracting seems that bringing up the the the situation of <hes> what started this the one of my dearest friends ever having a bone to pick with me because <hes> she thought that that i was making fun of adult go to disneyworld without children and she just had come back from a trip doing that. <hes> it was more riggins then i but i didn't deny anything that i had to do with it one way or the other but that that seems to have stirred some other things back up about disney a few. I'm forty nine. I've been to disney twice and neither time did. I have the kids with shame on you. Riggins rick mr judge judgy zt <unk> frown face shame shame how about this. I go to disneyworld alone as a twenty seven year old woman mm between four and five times a year. The only thing riggins needs to know if it makes my argument better is that i can go to disney and drink as much as i want to deal with any children durham and i can go back to the hotel and sleep late as i want adult dizziness the best no bathroom breaks every hour. No one attached me. No kiddie rides of. I don't wanna ride them. It's true to the best way for the delta actually enjoy disney by yourself. She said you're welcome to go with her. She wants to show show year round. Oh he's been around. He's been in the match king home back of my hand but you know you can do all of that and you know somewhere like <hes> jamaica or the bahamas are virgin islands or somewhere like that or five times a year. She'd love disney. That is a lot that's freaky not helping. You're a freak lady. What oregon's did he say. You're a freak. No i don't think so no i would never say anything like that. I have been nine times nine times in the last ten years. I know disney. I like it. It's great but i i get more enjoyment out of seeing out. <hes> kids and the families have fun. I wouldn't go by myself though just because i don't enjoy but if you enjoy disney god bless like i don't care what you won't see. I like vulgar things. That's my problem the longer vulgarity off color jokes and things like that to yourself that what you're saying that zip a d do dog lives not just you know garrity princesses in magic wansy lawns and smiley happy yeah. They should do disney after dark where they get rowdy. Well did make old dow trading with regan's fun <hes> good. We'll cover all the top topics t._j. Show now at one triple eight forty one k. c. j.
Why Can't You Swim in Most of the Bay Area Lakes?
"Running Round on Bay curious dot org and anonymous listener asked. Why can't you swim in California's reservoirs great question anonymous from Cutie Hey there I'm Alan Price Today on vicarious answering a question that one are may be they wanted to know how clean all those dams and reservoirs we're going to be and that study found that bacteria is not higher reservoirs that allow non body homes I co aging dot org before we dive in a quick definition a reservoir is a natural okay so the simplest answer as to why you can't swim in most reservoirs in California is well there's this law support for Bay curious comes from the institute on Aging a local massive series of reservoirs and dams and canals and pumping stations that make up one of the biggest public water and power utilities in the whole country or artificial lake used for storing water for this story we're focusing on the ones used for drinking water because those tend to be the ones off limits attacked so that's like boating or hiking but they worried that body contacts like swimming could lead to fecal coliforms and the potential for waterborne diseases the California aqueduct it will bring surplus northern California water or one hundred fifty miles southern California it's this nonprofit providing personalized home care for aging adults throughout the bay area live in an hourly care for aging loved ones is provided in the comfort of their own back when California was commissioning the state water project they also commissioned a study about the water wait pause what does the state water project nineteen seventies the thinking went reservoirs are for drinking water people are dirty and thus people swimming in the reservoirs makes our water dirty restricted and what it would take for that to change but first Kelly doing a race of course okay one two three go. OPTUS provided in this article recreational uses shell not with respect to a reservoir in which water is stored for domestic use include recreation in which how were not in place Kurt Sousa is an assistant deputy director for the division of drinking water filtration was required by the EPA it authorized the sale of one billion seven hundred fifty million dollars in bonds to finance the mammoth project and so when the state was building that there is bodily contact with the water by any participants swimming or body contact has been banned in reservoirs in California for swimming okay back to lake delvalle where things had gotten pretty chilly we might have to go inside for the rest of the got really ending called let's go to the car all right so we've now sought refuge in my car so we are still looking at the lake but it was a little too windy to be out there you can't swim at Stevens creek down in the South Bay or crystal springs in the peninsula or any of the main lakes Marin you have to stay out of the water in almost all the Suarez Alameda County in fact this place Lake Del Valle is the only reservoir you can swim in the whole bay area today bake curious we're going to dig in on why swimming quick dip with reporter Kelly o'mara on what might be the last warm days of the year yeah it's warm and windy in the summer you actually can rent boats or paddleboard error swim at this beach both had to drive pretty far to get here yeah I know I passed at least several pristine reservoirs just to get to where we were actually allowed to swim back in nineteen eighty nine and nineteen ninety-one somewhere in there so reservoirs reservoir water before that a lot of it was not filtered it was just disinfect it's like the reason it was done way back when is the Filtration requirements of surface water now more people in the water babies swimming people peeing now higher the risk it would get contaminated it did it would just be treated with coroner other chemicals and then pumped straight into our taps so we need the water sitting in the legs to be pretty clean in the first place and the water I can see some birds right across the lake right now and those are bad they're just not as bad birds don't carry the same type of pathogens that can make humans sick as humans do got it so humans get other humans sick way more than animals humans sick but what about voting and paddle boarding allowed at a lot of reservoirs that don't allow swimming right and even if you fall off your paddle board I think the logic is it's a lot less time so sometimes our reservoirs get very small and sometimes the water sits around for a long time that's why you'll find swimming allowed a lot more frequently on the east coast than the now Kelly I know people who are hearing this are going to say you know but what about the birds and the deer and all the other animals that might pu breath of course California being a state that doesn't always get as much water as we need has to unique issues too you know we are a drought state after it and there are specific exceptions to specific reservoirs or in one case all of San Diego County got an exemption years ago is in a river and it's definitely on the west coast so you might be wondering why can you swim at this reservoir there are exceptions in the law which are listed right Tom Hopefully you're not peeing in that small amount of time into a reservoir and it's a lot less risk it's a lot fewer people don't worry those exceptions come with a lot of guidelines for treating the water all of those state water project reservoirs were exempted from the swimming ban because West Coast they just get more rain their water turns over faster than us that's why rivers here have different rules they're not standing water but lichte valley you got a new exemption to allow swimming their reservoir they literally have to get new law passed by the state legislature and that's getting harder and harder to do legislative body has been very cautious on you know allowing a Lotta Rut reservoir activity like that the last bill pass to allow swimming for recreation was a part of them when they were decided on and like delvalle is part of the state water project but it's the only exemption in the entire bay area if someone new lake was in two thousand and thirteen there are plenty of reasons that people aren't pushing to open up all the reservoirs to swimming like water districts they might have to pay higher insurance rates but water treatment has gotten a lot better in the last forty years so if we were to write the policy from scratch it would probably look really different you started over that doesn't mean there aren't any spots you can swim in the bay area there are swimming legs that aren't for drinking and their rivers beaches we've got a list of sure if you'd make the same law today probably make it the other way where you would require certain amount of treatment for a certain type of recreation local swimming spots online at bay curious dot org and we'll also link to it in our show notes or you could just come out to lake devel- we can promise you wide open space great trade Dell's and a nice clean reservoir swindon let's kick this reporting off with a field trip we're out here at Lake del Valle is southeast of livermore and this week I'm enjoying eight.
D.C.s Bike Boom Shows No Signs Of Slowing Down Amid The Pandemic
"Many in the DC region turning to bicycling during the pandemic as an alternative to driving or public transit summer dusting off their long forgotten bikes and others are buying their first bicycles. WAM used Jordan Paskal has that story Geneva Sharma ordered his first bike just weeks into the pandemic. He lives in a small downtown DC condo with his girlfriend just trying to get out in a safe manner. I figured a bike is the best way only one problem I just. Didn't think about that everyone else was going to be buying bites at this time and I googled IMOs like Lo and behold there's a bike shortage in in America Sharma's bike was back ordered. So it took a while to arrive since he got it Sharma's been exploring all over riding up to twenty five miles at a time for many in the city outdoor space has become a premium cycling, his boomed as it's one of the safer socially distance ways to exercise. During the pandemic, some local trail sensors of shown twenty five or fifty percent increases in traffic over the same time last year if you want a new bike, it could take a few months waits for repairs, stretch three weeks or more at some shops demand his far outweighed supply that's been tightened. Thanks to the pandemic and shortage of parts from China. The US market is competitive. Two things have been terribly busy. That's Keith Jackson who runs operations for gearing up bicycles. A used shopping eggington I've been in a bicycle business since nineteen, ninety, five and everybody would tell you they've never seen anything like this between the desirability of bicycles. All of a sudden people stuck at home and people no longer doing comfortable mass transit Jackson found a line of people outside shop when he arrived for work the first weekend after DC, shut down in March, I sold everybody that Saturday all fifteen used bikes gone in an hour and a half. Wayne Sousa co-owner of Conte's bike shops has also seen unprecedented demand for new bikes. He sees a lot of first time cyclists and families who are looking for group activities outside the House. His biggest suggestion for those who may be looking to get into cycling. You don't need to necessarily buy a bicycle that's the most expensive one that they have or the fanciest gadgetry that they had of just get a bicycle that you feel comfortable on and start writing but getting comfortable running bike in the city doesn't come naturally for all the Washington Area Bicyclist Association has had record demand for their learn to ride and riding in the city classes. Wobble plans to restart in person classes. Later, this fall was social distancing, but for now. Everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in to today's women are rubbing. Short has been teaching cycling skills for more than three years. But now she's sharing knowledge online. Wada has created online spaces for beginners to ask questions and learn more about how to get into cycling. Short shared her favourite safe trails in Prince George's county during a recent Webinar but she also had a call for action. We need you out there a lot of us live in the county or little frustrated about the lack of bicycling infrastructure. But a lot of times that stuff is based on the demand sold more bikes mainstream more infrastructure more trails more all of that cities across the world or adapting to how people are moving around during the pandemic Peres is adding four hundred miles of bike lanes. Austin Texas voted to spend one hundred, twenty million dollars on new bike infrastructure. DC and other surrounding areas haven't committed like those cities. The district is staying with its plans to add twenty more miles of bike lanes by twenty, twenty, two, the Bike Association says, that's too slow. Officials have created some temporary space for walking and biking, and DC, in Montgomery County but it's not clear. These changes will last Sharma's he hopes those kind of spaces stick around because he'll be biking even after the pandemic is over climate change and his own health are among the reasons I think I'm GONNA keep to it I whenever we get back to the office I. Think I'm GonNa Start Cycling to work once I forgot how to make sure I'm not sweaty when I got to the office. He's not sure when he'll go back but until then you can catch him in tons of other new cyclists out on the trails for WMU Jordan Paschal regional news coverage from WMU, Eighty, eight five is made possible through listener support. You can join with your contribution at w. a. m. u. Dot Org Click the donate button and thanks.
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RTFF #347: Nelson Sousa (Part 1)
"The Starlight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. Let's go tickling the ivories. He just saved. By bundling home and auto progressive gonna finally by ring for that gal of yours Hugo send Monica gondolas. This next one is freed. There's. In my all, thank you. Because of casualty insurance company affiliates. Discounts on available in all states or situations. In my Bella, sit down and get ready to consume in abundance of fantasy football knowledge from Russ Tucker and Evan Silva me so hungry on the fantasy feast evening podcast. Let me baby is the Fancy Feast eating podcast. And if you're looking for a place to make your online wagers head over to bed, online dot AG and use that glorious promo code podcast one. He is Evan. So by way, that pike has one code get you a fifty percent sign up bonus today. He's Evan Silva, the master of all he oversees at Roda world total stud. Love talk more them. You gotta get him on Twitter at Evan Selva. Speaking of Twitter, he took all of your responses from your tweets last night for fantasy football winners and losers. Loser's veteran winners veteran losers based on what happened in the draft. Should be awesome. I should also tell you. I am Ross Tucker former NFL offensive lineman love fantasy football and makes every game. More interesting. You can check me out at Ross Tucker NFL on Twitter and Instagram. If you're a Facebook person Facebook dot com slash Ross, Tucker NFL, and certainly you should also be following our producer, Brian Neal. He's at RTF podcast. That's the first place time, whatever where you know, when the show is posted. I'll also mention probably the last time I mentioned, maybe I'll mention the next week to. But I don't know. But probably not my front page story dot com. Best mother's day gift. I've ever heard of whether it's for your mom or your, grandma or your wife, or whatever you literally. Talked to a reporter for ten minutes. They write an awesome story about your wife or your mom wherever you want to give it to. And then they send it to you, you give it to your mom or wife, whoever you want to give the gift to and and say, I just wanted to do something really special for you this year. So I had a story written about you. Awesome. Awesome. Pretty much guarantee. They'll cry tears of happiness if you do that. Anyway, let's get into it. We'll start with the veteran fantasy winners. So I know I say this every week when we get another one of Evans guests on that. I'm very excited Evan. He comes highly recommended but this week. Evan texted me and said, yeah, I've got the best high stake fantasy player in the world coming on tomorrow. No big deal. His name is Nelson Sousa you can follow him on Twitter at the underscore franchise. Twelve so Nelson. Yeah. Explained. This to me, you're the best high stakes fancy player in the world. No big deal. Right. That that's what Evan would like to call me. I have never self proclaimed myself as the best player in the world. All right. So how does Evan even know about you? You know, I've I've done well for myself in fantasy. But I think just. Through the years. We've heard each other's name out there. I think Evans if he wants to call me the best fantasy player, I think he's the best fantasy analyst in the world. I respect his opinion quite a bit. But I think that's kind of big shoes to fill. So I wouldn't want to put myself up there in that. You know as the best player in the world. There's a lot of really good players out there. Well, I agree with Evan. As the best analyst I say every single week here on the fantasy feast, but I do like to get people's background, especially if they're high stakes fantasy player for yourself. Your Twitter line says if you don't take risks you'll always work for someone who does. So what is your background Nelson? And what do you what do you do for a living or is this now your vocation? Sure. So what I actually do for a living in what pays the bills? I I own I live in New York, and I own a seven Dunkin donuts shops in New York. So. That's what I do. I got into the Dunkin franchise about sixteen years ago. And that's what I do every day, but you know, love fantasy, and you know, that's kind of a second fulltime job from come the fall. Wow. That's awesome. Seven Dunkin donuts. I love it. That's amazing. Dude. How do you not just like crush munchkins all day? Believe it or not after a few years. They actually you just you're not interested in munchkins or donuts every day or you start looking like one. Yeah. I can imagine. All right. So then how'd you get into high stakes and where do you play and give us the breakdown there? You know? I mean, it started like probably everyone else they you do your fun local leagues with your buddies get together every year and do a couple of fantasy drafts. And what I found was I was having success with the local leagues. And I, you know, I'm a competitive guy by nature and wanted to kind of challenge myself. A little more. And I started doing some research and found you know, high stakes fantasy football was out there. And that there was a couple of sites that hosted high stakes fantasy football, and you know, you had an opportunity to win one hundred thousand two hundred and fifty thousand so that appealed to me, and and basically, you know, a lot of great players go there to to play high stakes fantasy football. So I looked at it as you know, what better way to challenge myself than to play against some of the best fantasy players in the world. And for high high stakes money a lot of money. So. I've partnered with a couple of great guys through the years. One early on was Chad Schroeder who I would probably say is the best fantasy player in the world is that's my opinion. So we partnered together and early on. And now for the last I don't know probably six seven years. I've partnered with David Hubbard who has become a really good friend of mine, and we partner every year we go out to Vegas. You know, we get in drafts. That are the entry fee is twenty thousand dollars ten thousand dollars five thousand and we we've actually through the years have done very well. The the twenty thousand dollar entry league which is played at the NFC of we we've won that leaked Weiss. And we also play. Quite a bit at the F F and we've won their main event. This was a couple years ago we won their main event for for a quarter of a million. So that that was probably a couple of the highlights of my fancy football career while that's awesome. Very very cool. And you might be your at least part of sounds like the best team that's out there. I know Evan. This was your idea. We wanted to dive into some of the fantasy winners and losers based on how the draft unfolded in you, even did like a a Twitter crowd sourcing, right? Yeah. I mean, just anyone who wanted to talk about a certain situation was very free to contribute, and you I took I kept track of their names. And yeah. Let's let's get started. Okay. So number one and Nells no hit you up on all these number one. And this comes to us from risk it for a biscuit is devante Freeman in Atlanta. Okay. Devante Freeman is not I'm not really a fan of him. So I wouldn't exactly call them a winner. Even though Atlantic came out of the draft. You know without really drafting a running back. Hi, they have a very good offensive line. Good offense in general. So most would see Freeman as benefiting from that. But I it Freeman strikes me as kind of like a broken down veteran concussions injuries. I just don't think he has it anymore. Great competitor. But I think ITO Smith might be the guy this year in that backfield. And that's interesting because you're Smith is going to be way way cheaper than devante Freeman. I mean, the falcons went hord on their all sense of line. They, you know, I think for for lack of a better term overdrafted Chris Lindstrom. Although I think that that he's going to be a really good player for them number fourteen overall. And then they trade up for your boy Ross Kalem mcgarry number thirty one and as Nossa and mention they did not take a running back high, though, the only guy that they've added this all season was Quadri Ellison. He was a fifth round pick out of Pitt. So I mean at least on paper it looks good for devante Freeman. So I think it's a good suggestion. But they'll sit Nelson saying, hey, you know, don't take devante Freeman the second and third round take Edo Smith in. The thirteenth to fourteenth round. And I think that that's an interesting kind of take on the situation. Awesome. What about Matt Ryan? Let's keep in Atlanta that came from Alan echo. I guess again you take offense of lime in the first round. I guess we could say every every Atlanta skill guy benefited. Yeah. Absolutely. I I like the kid mcgarry and the Lynch Trump kid is, you know, he's a no nonsense lunch. Pail kind of offensive lineman. You know, I I watched them a little bit at Boston College. I think he eats like nails and screws sandwiches for lunch. You know that guys he's got a mean streak in them. So I think the offense in general is interesting. You know, Matt Ryan with, you know, Julio Calvin Ridley said knew they got Hooper they've got a good offense. So I I actually like the offense in general in think Matt Ryan is probably in for a solid year. Anything to add their Evan or? No, no, not really. No. I think he covered it pretty well. They didn't really add to their defense. So you know, and they shoot they didn't have much pass rush last year. And they're not going to have a whole lot of pass this year. They're only somewhat big addition was Adrian clayborn a guy who essentially got cut by the patriots. So they're they're they look like a team that is going to be a lot of shootouts this year and that could benefit Matt Ryan. Let's get to a wide receiver. How about Dede Westbrook Nelson? And that comes from wrote. Oh, heck, George CRA catis. Yeah. Westbrook. I've always been a fan of Westbrook since coming into the league. So I actually liked this recommendation when you look at Jacksonville, they they upgraded at quarterback with Nick foles. I think with Hackett there. Actually, no hack it left. But with the offense with Nick foles. I think they gotta go out of the shotgun now. So I think that benefits Dede Westbrook. I think he's the most talented receiver their marquees lease coming off a pretty serious injury. So yeah, I like that one where I could see Westbrook. Having a good year. Yeah. New OCD Filipo with with with Nick foles. And hey, Nick, like you're talking about some guys on the interior that play on the interior. That's where the US Brooke lines up. He was six among all players in the NFL last year yards. Gained from the slot. Nelson. Igor in Zakar tes had had a lot of big games with Nick foles there at quarterback. I I like Dede Westbrook. Dude won the bulletin a cough award. What was he that one year behind? The Marge action was a third or fourth in Heisman voting. I mean, he's a really under rated player. The reason that he went in the fourth round, I think it was for some off field concerns. But he's been very very productive. I think he's the Jags easily their best pass catcher. They really have very little at tight end. They added other rookie. I think his name's Josh Oliver at of San Jose State. But man, they did not added wide receiver like at all. They added Chris Conley? That was the guy that they added in free agency and didn't draft one and just added five undrafted free agents five hundred free agents. So they're almost bringing back the exact same receiver core that they had last year. And yeah, I think d- Westbrook's gonna riff pretty nicely with Nick foles. I just think he's the best receiver on the team. So I definitely have him as a winner as well. Getting into the running backs how about Damian Williams from the chiefs Nelson. Jeff rhino suggested that one. Damian Williams is not really a guy. I'm feeling this year. Even though he's part of a great offense. It. It kind of. You would think that you would want to be excited about you know, anyone in the Kansas City offense. But he he's been a journeyman running back through the years started his career with Miami. I think he played there like three or four years before coming to Kansas City last year. Now, all of a sudden we want him to be the bell cow back into be fantasy relevant. I think in drafts he's going like somewhere in the third round of fantasy drafts. So. I mean, I just don't I'm not feeling him this year. So he's not really a guy that I'm looking to to add in-draughts. They brought in Carlos Hyde. Who I'm it's not like, I'm really high on high. But hide still a professional running back that. Could play and could easily take over for him. So probably not a not a guy that I would probably consider a winner. And they added Darwin Thompson who's one of the most explosive later around running backs in this year's draft thirty nine inch vertical ran four or five flat. He led the entire nation in yards after contact per rushing attempt at Utah state. And so he could I would be worried about him cutting into the passing game work of Damian Williams because that's really where Damian Williams kinda butters spread. Nelson. Forgive me, if I'm if I miss remembering this, but do you have some kind of rule like if the guy wasn't drafted in fantasy leagues the year before? And then all of a sudden these big gave me Williams during the second round in some early drafts. Now, you're some kind of rule where like if the guy isn't drafted year before. And then he's all of a sudden drafted the top three or four rounds. Like, he's just you're kind of action off your list, or he's a guy that you're letting other people draft am I remembering that correctly, you are. So I call it. So basically any running back that the year prior came onto the fantasy radar and was the waiver wire pickup the following year. If he's being drafted in the top four rounds. He's a fade you totally fade him because I call it the Zac Stacy rule, aka the most recently, Alex Collins rule, so any. Guy that you acquired as a as a free agent pickup as a waiver wire pickup in your fantasy on your fancy team last year. And now he goes like the second third fourth round just let let them go. Let others take them. I it's not gonna work out. I like it. All right. Let's keep it moving. And let's get to another running back Kenyan Drake. This comes to us from cliff Ritter Nelson. I like Drake's talent. And now you've got a whole new offense there with Flora's coming over from New England, you got Chatto shea who's now the OC there. That one is kind of a wait and see approach for me because if Chatto Shay follows in the New England blueprint you're gonna have ballots and Drake getting splitting touches there, Drake. Obviously getting the passing down work and along with some carries each game. So it all comes down kin that offense gel. They've got a couple of weapons they got Parker who's you know, really never developed into that number one wide receiver when he was drafted. But he's got talent. You got Kenny stills Albert Wilson there in the middle. Get he is I think in emerging talent at tight end that came into the legal little raw. But was never used properly last year. He's more of a move tight end. Not not a guy looking to look into put them in blocking. So and then they also brought in Dwayne Allen from New England that they're familiar with. And he's going to be the blocking tight end. So I think it's interesting offense because the defense is not all that great. So you expect them to be behind in games? And if they're playing from behind Drake should get the passing down work and and get plenty of reception. So he he's an interesting guy for sure to keep an eye on. He is really interesting, and it's probably just gonna come down to draft position. Where's he going to go? I've done a bunch of early drafts. And he's going like fifth to seventh round. And I'm not taking him when he's in the when he's going into fifth, but when he's going to seventh as like, my Rb three or my before, you know, he's tempting and for a lot of the reasons that Nelson illustrative when they're playing from behind. I think Kenyan Drake is going to be in the game. Is he going to be able to have some games where he gets like five to seven catches because you know, he's an explosive player and he could be a monster in Jahra leagues. It's a it's a really interesting year for him and for the dolphins in general because we kind of know that they're not going all out to win as you know, from front office standpoint this year, but it's not like the players aren't going to go all out to win. It's not like the coaches aren't going to go all out to win. And they are going to find themselves in behind it a lot of games, and you can have some games reduce like five six seven catches. It's gonna be a monster and PR leaks about David Johnson in Arizona, noth in Hayden winks who's been on the show before suggested him. Yeah. David Johnson was on my fade list last year. It was easy to see with the defensive coordinator from. I think he came from Carolina Wilkes was came in as the head coach. They brought in Mike McCoy who I've never. Really been a fan of as offensive coordinator. They they're just not there's no imagination there on that offense last year. They had the offense. Just the talent surrounding him was just total garbage. They had nothing really at wide receiver, Larry FitzGerald awesome receiver throughout his career. But you know, he's getting up there in age doesn't really scare defenses anymore. Offensive line was horrible quarterback play with you know, you can't expect Rosena come in with that old line and everything they had everything working against them. Now, you flip the page to two thousand nineteen you've got, you know, new head coach that is a I think one of the bright young offensive minds like McVeigh coming in. They improve the old line. The employees improve the weapons around. Them. You know, they drafted Cuyler Murray who's a running quarterback. So they add that dynamic to peer with David Johnson. They have Christian Kirk now in his second year. And then they drafted Isabela and some some guy I think Evan kinda likes him a little bit. Some guy named Hakeem Butler. So they improve the weapons dramatically around David Johnson. So I expect you know, a bounce back here from him good love to hear that. I mean, it's been two years now since we've seen David Johnson really be the stud, you know, that he can be it's been a while. I mean, he missed almost all of two thousand seventeen to eighteen is just a really bad situation. No one was productive in that situation. And now they have a lot more playmakers now, adding the the running element with the new. Bac I think can really help the running game in general and Christian Kirk Akeem Butler in Isabela. I mean, it's going to be interesting to see how they how deep into spread offense is clue Kingsbury gonna go. Because I mean, hey, this guy that played at Texas Tech as coast at Texas Tech, you know, came up under Mike Leach as both a player and a coach how deeper they're going to go into the spread offense. And I'm the they've got some pieces they traded for up front. They traded for Marcus Gilbert from the Steelers, they signed max Garcia and JR Souissi. I still think it's probably a bottom five offensive line. But pay this new mobile quarterback might make it look a lot better last year. They're playing with what last couple years or playing with what Josh Josh Rosen. Sam bradford. I mean, those guys are not gonna make an offense of line look better. I think that to the kind of. The same way that Russell Wilson has overcome that offensive lines in Seattle. We can see similar dynamic with color Murray in Arizona. How about a couple of running backs in Tampa Peyton barber and Ronald Jones. This is from Nick beer Nelson. I can see with Bruce Arians coming back into the NFL where the excitement is coming from, you know, Barbara's just kind of a he's just a guide me at running back doesn't do anything, you know, special for me. So he he's not that great of a talent Ronald Jones is the guy the kid that they drafted high last year. I actually got a couple of friends throughout the NFL that every once in a while they'll shoot me a text with some interesting information, and I was high on Ronald Jones actually last year. And my buddy actually told me, you know, just stop drafting him. You know, the kids not ready for the NFL. And when I asked him, what do you mean? He said, you know, listen, he he's out here in LA at my club. And he. In pot and eating cheeseburgers in this was right before like training camp. Was getting ready to start. And he's like, I'm telling you this kid's not in shape. He doesn't get it. You know, it's going to take them a year. Maybe to understand what it is to be a true pro. So I laid off them and sure enough Ronald Jones face planted in and just never got out of that dog house with the coaching staff there last year. So this year who knows I mean, I know they brought in I believe they brought in their his running back coach from USC to Tampa. So I don't know if that's going to be a wakeup call for the kid, and he finally figures it out and he comes into camp in shape. He's got talent Bruce Arians. Is there a good offense? So that that one I'm taking a wait and see approach until you know, my buddy tells me what you know, what his thoughts are snow component cheeseburgers. I mean that sounds like a fun. Tonight to me. But you know, I'm not in the NFL, you know, trying to get ready for the season Ronald Jones, they were there. Other Radha flags about him. Just coming out of USC. In. He never caught passes and people even went back and looked at his high school career in catch passes in high school either. So I think he was overdrafted in a he it was just it was a disaster from the get-go you remember in in preseason. He was terrible in preseason. Their reports in training camp that he was the ball that he was getting outplayed by this undrafted rookie last year. Sean wilson. Man. I don't know he's going to be a really tough one. I he's definitely a guy that it'd be like reading beat writer reports about throughout the off season. And then pain, Barbara, I'm with you kinda kinda just a just a guy is as to down banger. I I wanna see them make a move for running back like how about bringing in John Kelly from the Rams, you know, send the Rams a six round pick for John Kelly. I think that would be a good move after the Rams obeyed of made multiple running back additions or go try to trade for one of those forty Niners running backs. I mean, they got four running backs. They're Tevin Coleman not Brita. You know, bring in Breda. Yeah. Bring in Breda. That would be sweet. I mean, they should send a fourth round pick to the forty Niners for Matt Brita? But yeah, I this backfield is challenging one for me. I do think that Payton barber sorta make some sense last year. He did as. Like a thirteen fourteen fifth front fifteenth round pick who's ADP stays in that same range than I think he's worth drafting. But I don't know. We'll see. How about some wide receivers from our guy? Ian kenyon. He he had Marquez Valdez scant Ling and equa Nimia state Brown from the Packers Nelson. You know, I could see it. But I could also not see it. So in what I mean by that is I'm not a big fan of met leflore. I didn't think he did a very good job offensively with the titans. So I'm not sure other than you know, him having a good interview. And I'm sure the guy, you know, is a bright guy. I don't know how he got that job. Because when you look at the titans offense, it they look like they just couldn't find their way last year. And now he comes on he brings on Nathaniel Hackett as an OC. And when you look back at hack, it's history. He's always had a good run game at but the receivers know dating back to buffalo when he had like Stevie Johnson, Robert Wood Sammy Watkins, those are all talented dudes. But under him they didn't have like big years. And then he goes. Goes to Jacksonville and Jacksonville had a you know, he kind of made his name in two thousand seventeen when Jacksonville kind of took off and he made Bordeaux's look like an actual starting quarterback. But when you look at the receivers, they're, you know, Hearns marquees Lee and then last year with Westbrook in killing Cole. None of those guys really did anything, you know. So I'm not really I'm not really feeling the Packers this year. And when I look at those receivers, I don't see anyone that sticks out to me like Saint Brown and bell Dez scant Ling and Jake Camaro, you know, they got Adams who's the alpha male there in that offense, Jimmy Graham is kind of whatever, but they drafted stern burger who I'm a fan of from AM. And then they got the running backs right talented Aaron Jones, they they've got Jamal Williams. Tmz who's who's a, you know, a decent back, and then I was a big fan of Dexter Williams coming out of Notre Dame. So even though he went late in the draft. He's kinda sneaky. So when I look at it, and then I look at Aaron Rodgers and who he is I'm putting the over under at three games before Rogers throws a bitch fit on the sidelines with. In in Hackett in like punches one of those guys in the face. And I'm telling you right now, he he's going to be begging by by halfway through the season. He's going to be begging from Carthy to come back. I love the very non quantitative analysis there from from Nelson Sousa, I like extra Williams too. We should talk about him on a forthcoming dynasty show a little bit more. But I like that addition as well. I mean can't argue too much. I mean, you know, Aaron Rodgers has has been on the same page with devante atoms and pretty much. No one else. He. You know, he would get upset with the rookie receivers last year you go back and read that the Thai done piece on Bleacher report. And apparently, he doesn't like Marquez vowed a scant Ling, and that kind of explained why last year Marcus Dodig Stanley had some some moments in then. Just kind of he just kind of disappeared in the second half of the season and equal Nemea Saint Brown. I mean, I I remember during game specifically with Aaron Rodgers would just give them that glare, you know. Yep. Bus to run in west ran the wrong route or you know, we don't exactly know what's going on. But he pissed off here. Rodgers and that's not good either. So I don't know maybe one of those guys will step up, and and and earn his trust during training camp and the preseason, and that would be awesome. Because I do think that there's room for another guy to explode in the offense. But right now, I think it's very fair to be skeptical about those young receivers definitely guys to keep an eye on. But I really haven't been drafting vow to Scanlon or Saint Brown at all early on. And they always go like multiple rounds before I would take him. Yeah. Yeah. It's one of those situations where where there's smoke this fire. And I know a lot of Aaron Rodgers backers are going to Chuck it up as you know. It's it's it's nothing. But when you have Greg Jennings coming out in public in saying, you know, kind of talking pretty poorly about his former quarterback. I mean, you don't see that outta receivers. You know with Tom Brady, right? You don't see deal branch? Randy moss. Even even a guy like auto Cinco. Who didn't really have a great time in New England. You don't see him talking poorly about Brady, but you have you know? Greg jennings. Talking poorly about him you have that report of, you know, we're Rogers like hated Jeff Janice, and Jeff, Janice. You know, I'm biased because I thought that kid could amount to something he was athletic freak coming out of college. You know, small I think he went to Appalachian state, maybe a small school, but he was really talented. And and people I read some report where Rogers kept him in the doghouse like, you know, he did something to them one day or ran the wrong route. And that was it like, you're dead to Rogers. So I don't know. I think there's something to it. And you know, I don't know if you know any of those receivers are going to, you know, Joe with with Rogers 'cause I I agree with you have. And I saw the same thing where he just gives that look. And then it's like, oh crap. You're you're dead to him that said game over. Let's keep it moving. I like I bitch fit. First time ever. We've said bitch fit on fees podcasts. Hopefully, not to last that was nice Nelson. How about Carson Wentz? They got a tackle a running back and a wide receiver with the first three picks. Love the offense. There's nothing to dislike about the offense except do Staley and how they managed that backfield. So that's for another day to talk about that. But as far as Carson Wentz and the offense around him. I mean, they brought back to Sean Jackson. That's what the offense was missing last year from pre the previous year for Wentz was that deep downfield threat. And now they have Jackson there with Geoffrey Geoffrey is now you're talking about a guy. That's completely healthy. Great red zone weapon downfield. You got Nelson Aguilar. And then you've got you know, one of the best tight ends in Zach arts Dallas guards their offense of line, they improved. So there's nothing, you know. I like Carson Wentz. I think he's in for a big year if he stays healthy. Yeah. I think he's a huge by. I'd rather listen to Ross talk about him. I mean shoot by the way Ross huge. Congratulations on the the eagles preseason game gig. I mean, I I love washing preseason football. And it's gonna be great hearing you. But do you have any thoughts because I feel like you have a really good finger on the pulse of the eagles and just that entire situation in back injuries. And everything do you have any thoughts on Carson Wentz? Well, my first thought is that if he's healthy is gonna play really really well because I actually thought he played pretty decent last year. Even though he was dealing with the back thing the whole time and coming off the tourney yell. I mean coming off tornado PL with his trash fracture in his back. And he still was playing at I thought a salad level. The fact that he was interviewed recently and said he's not all the way back yet. I think we'll know a lot more whether or not he participated in any of the OTA's or many camp he said that's his goal. My guess is he doesn't which means they're probably just being conservative with it. And rightfully so. But still means that, you know, since December it's been five months, and that that has not healed yet. So then you have to wonder. Okay. Well, when will it be fully healed that they'll be willing to clear them? And so I don't have any insight in. Formation. That's just based on what he said. And I think you've got to really really keep your eye on that. Because Dr Chow who joins the Ross Tucker football podcast said that stress fracture in his back. It's an area where they don't get. It doesn't get a lot of blood and can be a long along healing process. So certainly something to keep in mind. Some other names we've got here that weren't necessarily suggestions. But you just had him down. Evan Robbie Anderson. The jets receiver. Yeah. He he's kind of give and take kind of guy for me in what I mean by that is he's kind of the big play guy in their offense. But the jets also brought in Levy on bell who's going to command. A lot of touches in a lot of targets out of the backfield. They brought in Jamison Crowder who is now going to work the middle of the field for them. So it's kind of addition by subtraction in vice versa. For me. I get see Anderson where these guys coming in help him and keep the defenses honest. But at the same time, I could see it where he's not getting as much work in the offense. Because now they have more weapons around absorb. I'm kind of still on the fence with him. Yeah. I think that's fair. I like where he's been going in early drafts. He has been going like seven to ninth rounds. I've been taking him a lot. I just loved the on field bond that he kinda showed with Sam darnold this past year. Especially down the stretch. I mean last six six to eight weeks if you weren't playing Robbie Anderson daily fantasy you were donating to fan do or draft kings. And you know, if you had him on your season-long team. I mean, he was in every week starter. But you know, the Quincy noon will had kind of fallen by the wayside at that point. He's back. He should be healthy. Chris Herndon entering a second year. As Nelson mentioned Jamison Crowder is now there. So is he going to get the targets, and that's probably when it's gonna come down to he's he's always going to be a splash play player is he going to give us consistency. Though. You really hasn't been a consistent player throughout his career. But he was consistent late last season. But as you gonna be able to maintain that I think that's a legitimate quote. He's a great best ball pick. Because you don't you don't have to choose which week to stay. Start them, you know, but how long I mean, we we were wanting more consistency than what he shown for most of his career. How about Tyler Lockett? I know they drafted decay Metcalf. But with the Doug Baldwin news lock you could be in for an upgrade Nelson. Yeah. So here's a perfect example. I would probably say that lock it in Anderson have similar skill sets. But the difference is I liked what Evan. Tweeted out last night, which was when Baldwin didn't play in the games that he didn't play lock it. I think saw somewhere around sixty percent of his snaps in the slot. And that's huge. So that tells me that lock it's not just that outside big play a guy like Anderson would be in the jets offense. He would probably slot. Go in as the slot in replace Baldwin in that offense. So he would be a guy that I'm much more, you know, inclined to draft over Anderson. I'm I'm not quite sure exactly where they're going. In comparison to each other in drafts yet, but lock it would be a guy. I'd be interested in. Yeah. I really like lock it. I think that the season is played out. Really? Well for him. You know, never want to see a guy like Doug Baldwin. Just an awesome player super underrated player retire. But it's got to do what's best for him. And if he does retire Tunga Lockets, I think it'd be the primary slot receiver with decay Metcalf in Gary Jennings playing outside. And who's who's the other guy there? I can't I'm blanking here. But I think baby Darbeau. Tyler lock is going to be there slot receiver, and he's gonna have higher gonna run higher percentage. Routes playing him a slot. I looked up his stats. Playing in the slot. Last year he was targeted twenty nine times. He caught twenty six of them he ever seventeen and a half yards per catch. A scored five touchdowns in the slot on a slot targets slasher. So he crushed it. When he was playing the slot. Twenty six twenty nine targets is awesome. Yeah. I I would be very I would take him. Oh, definitely take him over Robbie Anderson. This year. What about Trey Quinn? I know he's a guy you were writing about Evan. What do you think about Trey Quinn Nelson? He's an interesting guy. He's going to take over for Crowder in the slot there in Washington, I look at that Washington offense. And for some reason right now, I just wasn't high on it. But I like what they did in the draft. I at first I was thinking they're just going to be complete garbage this year, and I was going to just stay away from them. But when you when you get Haskins, and then you take Terry McLaren who played with Haskins in in college. And now you've added some speed on the outside to take over for dachshund guy that really hasn't figured it out at this point. You got Paul Richardson coming back Jordan Reed, if he can stay healthy is a mismatch at tight end. They're going to want to run the ball. But Trey Quinn seems like he's going to be like the chain mover. You know, where you know, the little five six yard. Catches over the middle of the field. So he he's a nice little player. I could see him being fantasy relevant. Yeah. I think he's an underrated player in general. You know, he went to LSU as a five star high school recruit. And then, you know, things didn't work out there wide receivers, you know, tell your if your wide receivers are if you have a son who's a wide receiver, tell them to not go to LSU, please. And then so he ends up transferring, and here's a huge year his last year at SMU where he played with court, Lund's, Sutton, Portland. Sutton was the outside guy at SMU and Trey Quinn was the inside guy in trae Queen isn't super fast like in a straight line. But you know, you look at like his three cone shuttle times, I mean, he's he's a quick guy. In a short area is going to have to stay healthy. He was hurt. Too much in his first season begun on the field, and he produced and he did that great dance from the office when he scored a touchdown on thanksgiving. And you know, we were we were on him in daily fantasy on on thanksgiving as a super cheap play. And you know, we we will Pat ourselves on the back for that. But I think he can take a step in his second season. You look at the other receivers that they have Josh dachshund. Kelvin harmon. Paul richardson. These guys are all MacLaurin. These guys are all kind of outside receivers and Trey Quinn as their their slot guy. And they didn't add a tight end. So you know, they're bringing back Jordan Reed. And Jeremy sprinkle and Vernon Davis. And I think trae Queen is kind of locked in into the slot at least for now. And he's a guy that has been going. I mean, I I have been before the draft. I was taking him in the second to last round like every single time of my best ball drafts. And yeah, I think he's a great sleeper for two thousand nineteen. How about a couple more receivers from Ben Pickering DJ more in Carolina, Chris Godwin with the bucks Nelson. Love DJ more. So coming out of Maryland last year, I was really high on this kid and then my fantasy football partner. David Hubbard was actually fell in love with them. Where to the point where it kinda got like kinda creepy stalker? Kind of thing where I joked around with them that I'm like, you know, hey, you gotta take it easy with your DJ more love. But this kid, I think is like the real deal. I expect them to have a big year. If and it's a big if Cam Newton is healthy now Cam Newton's coming off that shoulder surgery. And you know, we've seen this with Andrew luck. I think you got to proceed with caution right now with that Carolina offense. But if Newton is ready to go and he's looking good in training camp. I think the sky's the limit for this kid this year, and then with with Godwin again, you know, it's the Bruce Arians factor. And I'm actually I'm starting to shy away a little bit from him because I feel like the hype is getting out of control with the kid, and he's been moving up in fancy drafts to the point where it it's almost getting there where he's he can't return any value because he's got to perform where he's being drafted. And you still have Mike Evans is the number. One there you still have OJ Howard. So I, you know, I don't know. I God went I'm still on the fence with because I I love the talent. But I feel like the hypes just getting a little bit out of control with him the, hyper superstrong on Chris Godwin. And I mean, I understand it, you know, but man, he's going early and drafts right now, I I really like DJ more. This is going to be you know, these guys are really talented dudes and DJ more particularly is in a very good situation where he has a chance to get a ton of targets this year. You know, what does Greg Olsen have left? How long is he gonna last? DJ Moore's like the clear number one in Carolina. Whereas. You know, you're talking about OJ Howard and Cameron bright. And you know, of course, Mike Gavin's their incr- it in Tampa Bay, Chris Godwin. Bruce talked about using him in the slot using him as in that Larry FitzGerald, Reggie Wayne Hines ward roll man that that would be really interesting for him. But I kinda wanna see it to believe it. He's going to be a guy that me watching where is he lining up in preseason games. I think that that will be a good tell for us on Chris Godwin awesome. Awesome stuff. Guys. I want to save some of the winners for part two which we will get into as well as all of the losers on next week show. Should be awesome already looking forward to next week with the veteran fantasy losers. Speaking of losers. You are a loser. If you haven't yet taken advantage of. Of the bed online dot AG, promo code podcast one. They don't get sensitive. I'm not really saying you're a loser. It was just a segue or a transition to the read or I tell you about but online dot AG and how you can use the promo code podcast one to get a fifty percent. Sign up bonus to bet on the Kentucky Derby, or whatever else you wanna bet on don't get sensitive just smile and go to bed online dot AG and use promo code pod. 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Frederic Chopin 4: Famous Pianist-Composers
"Hello. I'm Naomi Lewin. Welcome to classics for kids. Since we can't hear Frederic Chopin play. We think mostly as a composer. But from the time Chopin was a child audiences love to hear him play the piano, a lot of composers, I became famous at the keyboard. Johann Sebastian box. First job was a church organist. And that's how many people in his day thought of him an organist and choir director, who did what was expected of him writing music for church services. For awhile box spent time conducting a court orchestra and playing harpsichord for prince plenty of composers played keyboard for royalty like Francois coop around. Coop around Rhode for the harpsichord, an ancestor of the piano, a harpsichord was the instrument that both days Mozart started out playing as a child when he performed for royalty. But by the end of his life Mozart was playing the piano. Mozart could play just about anyone under the keyboard long before people knew what a genius Ludwik fund Beethoven was as a composer. They were thrilled with how he played the piano. It's interesting that today pianist mostly perform using by other people audiences used to expect pianists to play the latest Buzek. They had written fronts list was an amazing showman at the piano. He loved to dazzle people to compose music that showed off his play. Fronts list wrote music that reflected his native country, Hungary, other pianist composers put their roots into their music to like Spaniard Isaq of he made the piano imitate the guitar. Why we're on the subject of PNO's pretending to be other instruments. Louis Moreau Gottschalk the first American pianists to become famous in Europe used his instrument to imitate the banjo. There was a nineteenth century pianist composer who invented the short piece called the knock term Joan field was born in Ireland, but he spent most of his career in Russia. last of the great keenest composers was Circe Rachmaninoff off lived long enough into the twentieth century to make recordings some of them for con Edison. And some of them on paper rolls for player pianos. Some pianists didn't necessarily compose, but they did make arrangements of other people's music when blood Amir Horowitz played his version of the stars and stripes forever. No, most sanded like John Philip Sousa's in Kyler band was on stage. I'm Naomi Lewin. I write classics for kids and produce it with Tim Lander at W G UC Cincinnati. Please join me again for more classics for kids.
Ep. #3109 with guests Gina Mazany & Kevin Iole, Roy Jones Jr Vs Mike Tyson review, more
"Title roll baby on may junkie radio with gorgeous georgia go. This is what we do in why we do it baby. We're covering ma from all over the world. This is the premier stop for all your combat. Sports needs mma junkie radio from the mandalay bay resort and casino in the fight capital of the world. Las vegas nevada. The lights are on at the mike. Sir hot it's tied to get your ever may fixed junkies take it away. Big john gorgeous george goes. Are you ready junkie. What up junky nation gorgeous. George and goes showing up here ready for service on monday Hope y'all had a nice thanksgiving and man i. I can't wait to get on here because we are still in makeup mode. Where on the weeks where. Our guest ghosted us or maybe we blew it most of the time. They go status to be honest. Were just kind of covering up when we said we're gonna make it up to you and have two guests Thought we did a good job. Last week with marc ratner hall of famer and Jon anik future hall of famer and today we have another hall of famer kevin. I only from yahoo. Sports is covered boxing from many years anime. Now well he joined the may ranks about two thousand five. He'll join us us. We can talk a little. Bit about mike. Tyson versus roy jones junior and of course uc on espn eighteen card. That took place one of the fighters from that car genome azzoni chill also your guests. That'll be our our second-guessed actually she's coming in verse nine fifteen. Am pacific twelve. Fifteen pm eastern kevin. He'll join us at nine thirty. Am pacific twelve. Thirty five pm eastern Also lots to talk about. There's been a few fight. Bookings are honestly things are slowing down a little bit. They're still gonna get really really good fights both in boxing aerospace danny garcia anybody But you know Got a little scare a house. That chenoweth does. He got the ronan out or not he does. You'll be alright versus the on edwards. don't worry. We haven't heard anything that fights not happening. there's been a little bit of Reshuffling of the deck. Now kevin hall is gonna face canelo. Sousa marvin vittorio. Who's gonna face an although sousa. He's now fighting this league against jack. The joker hermansson. So i'm still happy. I think the uc did a great job there and it kinda done a great job while year. Just mixing and matching dare us get signing. it's carlos to 'hada to top fifteen lightweights. Remember my weeks. Is that deep division. Where you just grab to two names out of the box match up and you got yourself a banger. So we'll talk about that and Of course our two guests buckle some chick fata dude in russia by the way. Yeah we'll tell you about that as well. The chip one. It didn't look like it was gonna go that direction but she won kudos to her. But i don't know if these fights should be made or what but maybe when you when we tell you about it you'll see that they may have just turned out to be more of snack or something like that. All right buckle up jumpy nation well let me go danny seguida dropping. It just wanted to let you know about. Mma junkies latest botkin. It's eh made it weekly. Spanish language show dedicated to all things professional fighting each monday. We recap the major events from the weekend. Plus we analyze the week's biggest news. You also bring you exclusive interviews with the best fighters coaches and experts in the hispanic and latin american. You can find alamosa every monday morning on your favorite podcasting platform so screw it. They don't show all right. So let's start off with our sport moguls. Some boxing goes. Have you noticed the boxing. Traffic has been pretty active on junkie this weekend. Yeah that's never gonna stop. I mean everybody says box kind of slowly going away but anytime there's a big fight or something big going on you can just tell how. Many more of those diehard boxing fans at grew up with boxing. How many of those people are still around. It's just evidence social media even on our website. There's a lot of talk that goes along with that stuff. Yeah so trust me. We could lead off with that and and spend some time with it but Our sport is anime and even though we love. Boxing will start with that Look the main event. How else can we play it. It was a little bit of a snooze or the the guy got the job on anthony's got his job done right and devin clark went after. It's just it all went down to quick. We're ready for five rounds aren't even if they were ready for around three round fight but they went for they were. They changed it to five rounds and i think i haven't heard one of the guys like felder. Someone say maybe they got a little bit bump bump in pay because goes on our talking about this last week. Is that fair do they. Are their bodies. Ready and conditions for five rounds fell there was saying look most of show up. We can push it that far. It's more of a mental thing but he covered it so that was good but yeah look in the first round triangle choke. Anthony smith defeated devon. Clark that's why i'm disappointed. Goes i think this was a huge chance for devon clark to really really like a make. Some noise justify main event status he showed up as a main goldman adventure but still. He had the chance to validate look can get up there with the main guys and of course he was fighting with a heavy heart but it just wasn't his day. Anthony smith man beautiful triangle. I think the first thing people are gonna wanna point to devin. Clark was probably a little emotional going into that fight. Honestly he had good position in the fight. He just got caught. It was just a little mental absence. Prop standing smith who repeatedly people don't give them as much credit risk grappling Deserves but it's one of those situations where when you look at the way the ufc put yourself in the matchmaker shoots you have to imagine when they book fight. They look at it the same as you were they think. A if clark's victory here this can maybe put him over at the expense of a guy. Like anthony smith crafty veteran if he loses than than we spend the storyline. Oh with back east back baby right. So it's one of those fights where i think. Maybe they they can't lose but I wouldn't really point so much to emotion on this one. I just think it came down to the better one technique. One anthony smith is a veteran. And that's what came out on saturday. I was probably homering for smith. Because he's a former series colleague. He's got his show their Tonight along with ryan mcconnell and rj clifford make me should pay They mix and match the talent there. But devin clark we got to know him because he's pumped by the studio was well like i said i just i felt bad for the guy you know like so much so much on the line and it just it all was so quick and you know there is some sort of a buildup goes as we get to the the main event. I'm not even in the car. I'll do it in the way that put into this way. They won't be rankings report this week and i didn't have to do much when i had to do with the rankings other than look at. Maybe gino johnny. Can we make roopa at flyweight Anthony smith you know he won but can you go up now okay. it was. It was pretty easy. So it just didn't have much star. Power top fifteen power that rear but either way. The action usually delivers. And guess what goes. I was four. No going to five team parlay at the end so basically i just wound up hedging it. It didn't matter who won. I just would win. More if anthony smith One so that was the that was the home arena. Little bit plus not to sound like on monday morning quarterback ivo. I've always felt like his brazilian jiu underrated. And i gotta give a shot out. The dan tom for that. He's always pointed it out even back when we were talking about. You know breaking down versus the shogun's over the joneses of the world. It's not something that he came up with the last six months. He's actually noted that a few times do not sleep on that you know like if he gets the dollar position on you. He is very very good so Anyway what are you gonna do I hope clark. Did i guess another chance on a main card but yeah like that all it all happened quick and then it's like so longer than the apex because remember i had committed the no tyson and roy jones junior and i may regret that one but anyway that was. That was just my feeling on saturday. A if you're at the center and somebody was talking shit on devon clark as he was walking out what would you scream at that person I don't know It's the only time he gets us that. Land from sam. I mean you don't know thing about is car. I wouldn't have remembered that when i was clark. Griswold sauce going through my clark. Griswold nine and i was like Can't come up with it okay. Well listen here's the rest the card right quick again. Gene johnny joining us in about seven minutes. Miguel beza defeated Takashi sato parker porter defeated josh correzian. Bill that was a fun fight by the way too. Big heavyweight that You know were. They weren't statuesque few will but still they were out there. They were slinging man but kenya. Park for fifteen minutes. Which i imagine of after them was in ghana Would look like a tough man competition. -actly exactly yeah Bill algeria defeated spark kyle sparked spite carlisle. Dude i may have to put these on. A was kinda cool. He's don't look to battle. Okay bill algae by carlisle reported. Puerto defeated josh. Friesian normally dumont defeated. Actually evans smith out of santa ana california. Jonathan pearce defeated Third one hurt by the way. I had a little bit of money on kyw camacho Anderson santos defeated martin day genome. Johnny defeated rachel ostrich Would daresay defeated malcolm gordon. Nate manus defeated luke sanders Madeira daresay is another kid. I was looking at the but he doesn't have much experience at at flyweight flyweight and women's the women's division. Sometimes you have to take a look at even if somebody's a newcomer to the division. Like like linton. Dekalb went up because she'll bring in an some equity in the equity a straw being ranked as a top ten straight. When you move up your and your impressive when you beat someone rang like jessica is you have to take a look do. The problem for mazzone is She beat somebody who wasn't ranked. So you know you take a quick look in the okay. We need a little bit more work out of her at fly. And then we'll see what we can do going down the road but still. I was very very impressed. I've known arouses The bantamweight you know years extreme couture in she came in looking really really good. Really lean at flyweight and even though she was breathing heavy she still had tons of energy now. That was a great performance in a one for those of you who only kept show here. Well i guess either way transports we had james khazanah not too long ago and you know i think when we all hung up with that interview we talked about how dialed in. That guy is not just as a fighter but as a coach and gina said the world about him about coaching. We've seen him practically every almost every event feels like it's got james cross student there. Don't yeah does. And i'll tell you his five point so coaching were coming into play. When i was thinking about i no cage control in the wrestling that you apply towards mixed martial arts and then obviously the organization in the planning leading up to and she mentioned james clark kicked my ass a hard camp you know but we got through it. That's why she only had to cut wait for fifteen pounds then. She woke up on. Wait a one thirty five leaning out to one twenty five you know so. That was very very breath but then the other thing was. Don't take it to where she strong. Whenever you want to fight within your own capabilities. I only remember four. But for the five. But i was thinking about those throughout the fight and then he kept their into I thought in between rounds he was doing some of his best work Also the bonuses went to antics v miguel by his data Daresay and nathan manage fifty thousand h. How about the week before. I only found out or two weeks before whatever davison figure A bag with fifty thousand dollars in cash because they forgot the bonus here that that by bonuses were given out he got his in cash. Now i think must have been tied in somehow to brandon marino. Quite brandon rain on threes. Can i think about it. Oh by the way we forget. Got to give you that bonus. Yeah there's actually a video of it with wild lead israel. I mean almost losing his mind. Which i think he can do even in a serious setting but regardless a goddess fifty thousand and. How many times have you been around where we're like. Have they got only give out a fifty thousand dollar award to this guy and that guy calvin catering that this is. How did he get one that that might have been the most ridiculous one of all time and dana was trying to sell it as As a those of it was wicked. Guillotine against alex birsh says it was. we've seen guillotine. It was a wicked next. Suppose a title fight. It was nice to him. But i think like i say i had something to do with tying all that in all right give us ten seconds and we're going to line-up our first guest genome is on it. You'll see flight. G gotta win over. Rachel ostrich this past saturday go. We are back counter. An nfl podcast from usa today. Sports featuring four the wind. Stephen ruiz and chris cormon just assuming that this is an upgrade. The quarterback position. But i don't think you could say that for back. I'd say it's a downgrade long. Never really had gained game impact. Just coming off the edge and destroying people that we saw when we saw athleticism college combine the counter diving deeper into the nfl with advance stats film. Study an expert guests. This is the counter listening. Subscribe to the counter on apple. Podcasts spotify google podcasts. Stitcher tune in or wherever you. Listen to your favorite podcasts. There is johnny. Look the flowing hair so beautiful you doing. And so good. How are you guys good. What color is that almost said ran but then at the last second like wait a minute is a hint of purple or something else size. Switched up so it's actually. It's like half dark purple. This is the pink side in that have heart by dark purple. I need something new for the twenty-five division. So this this is my plan there's pink those red there's purple. It looks cool everything. Now what did you say. It was a worm or whoa. I'm outside right now. And i moved to planter to like prop my phone up and i is a worm came out of the planter so saga we've got your dooms akilah shots or something to celebrate. Oh man. I should've i should remind merge solutions on your mom and feels good feels good. It's been a while so many boxes were ticked in the sense that For one getting down one twenty five. We were noting that from what we heard. You only had to cut for fifteen minutes and you're already on late and then being able to answer the bell everyday throughout james krause camp which we here is intense. You know doing all that and then fighting on a main card Getting the finish. Like i say he took a lot of boxes on saturday. Man yeah it was definitely There's a lot a lot. My camp Hands down the hardest thing. I've ever done hard thing i've ever done. Claim to one twenty five. And it wasn't like i mean i just had to like do what they set like. What they said is like eight what they said like. I didn't cheat at all. I didn't like take bites things. I was just like very strict myself. Because i'm like. I'm not i'm gonna make one twenty five. I'm gonna win this fight jet james hadman. A crazy schedule like some days. I would have four to five sessions a day Which for anybody doing doing four activities. A day is a lot. Like four training sessions as is a lot The yeah and then i was. I was very very very happy about getting that finish I felt. I felt it was coming but i wasn't i wasn't really expecting to get that one deliver shot but that's definitely one of my favorites so that was really cool. You know the first time. It all happened so quick than i thought. Maybe it was a a low foul like well what happened there you know just kind of looking to glancing and then boom here comes the other one and you really really put her away but then in watching it perfectly delivered you know To hurt right side of the body toes dig in Good job on that one. I trained all the time to like i on pads on on sparring staffing. It's like something a little like. I'll flick out that we have we call it like the ninja toe. Go pink and Although a little bit more like spartak it clicked tour gut. But yeah i definitely. I definitely practiced put it right there in the sweet lovers spot. Let me tell you something. Gina i gotta go to bat for you. We were just discussing davidson. Figueredo got an additional fifty thousand dollars days after they had already given the or bonuses away last week so they make gave away five bonuses. Look dana comes from the boxing world. He has an appreciation for a liver shot when delivered with the hand. But i thought what your what you did was a little bit more precise because you did it two times. Which means you you something you worked on you execute it and you almost put her away and then you went right back to it man. I'm telling you. I'm gonna cause some noise on twitter and not that many followers but get your tweet on or something. Let's see we can get you a bag with fifty gs in you know. Yeah it's so funny. We're leaving the venue i was like man. That'd be so cool to bonus. Like i felt like was i dunno. I felt like i performed really well. I went to a new way class. It went to a big name. And i felt like i dominated by performance itself was pretty pretty good and then that stop which was amazing But then i was also. Like cassandra people will do something You know they'll do something cool in their fight. They won't get opponents Bitch about on the. I should've gotten a bonus blah blah blah and at the end of the day. I'm just grateful to be here but yeah no an extra fifty. G's will just be like being everything to me and my family. And like i i. I worked my butt off to to perform for everyone and do the best uncle. Dana i mean should medium. I'll give you my address real quick. Let's go exactly shooting give him. The wiring. instructions can just wired and it'll be there in seconds. But now that i think about it. I think i did catch some of the press conference and he said he was impressed. He's gonna be writing out some checks so to be fair. Maybe maybe you are in a. You're going to get something in the mail just in time for christmas at that. Yeah no listen The fight versus rachel Your your splash into the new division. So we don't even need to ask you because he definitely felt comfortable there in terms of sometimes we see somebody instill ask him. How was it you know. Did your lifestyle change so much that you wouldn't take another fight from what we from. What i hear you can do it but you just. You also can't be late notice stealing right or my raw. You know i'm kinda. It's emily gonna find out more like the end of the week I just have to like not eat. Like a jerk and stuff. And i don't know i was like so strict on myself when i did it for over ten weeks. So it's like it's like a new lifestyle for me no so it's I would like to be able to take short notice opportunities Yeah i i felt amazing at one. Twenty five i felt i just also strong and i felt like i wasn't oversized. I just i felt like a monster in there But yeah. I'm i'm hoping i can keep it low to where i can take a fight unlike short short notice But i'm i'm intending on keeping the ball rolling. I'm gonna. i'm gonna go to island with my fiance. Tim when he fights in january like god forbid if a one twenty five falls out like i'll be ready so Just kinda just kinda doing that. But yeah it's it's tough but you can never regret doing hard work. So i'm all for it. You know when. I heard that you were doing that. The first thing that came to my mind was we'll hey she's here in vegas. You got the performance institute. That's going to help a lot. But then i found out that you had laughed Can you talk a little bit about what we're like some of the last conversations you had with people at the pi before you made the decision and was it a lot different during account without some of the things that the i asked to offer Yes i ran away to kansas city. Missouri You know. I so i went out after my last fight I really thought i was done with everything. And james krause fulltime is. Just gimme two months. Jesus two months like let me let me get on a schedule. And i was like okay and i did it and i like literally did everything he said. And he wanted me hired a nutritionist. He had me hire tyler. Minton so i didn't really use the pi that much anymore But as for like i really. I really miss like having like physical therapy and stuff. That was nice. But i don't know it wasn't that much different. Like it was nice having with all the covert and stuff going on. Like the the p. is a little bit less accessible like you can't go in there as much like food and like therapy like tasks loans fun stuff So it really wasn't not too much of a difference. I thought that living in kansas city and have jams cross my coach was way more of an advantage than Than anything for me personally. Everyone's different but for me personally having james krause And the glory team back back in a lisa in missouri was a lot more of a benefit from the pi. All the fighters we've ever spoken to that have done something similar to what you're doing. They all had different answers for us in question What if i were to ask you. Do you wish you would have done something. Like the sooner some fighters will say yeah and then some will say well. Some of those hiccups along the road are kind of even though they didn't go my way. They taught me a lot of things. So i wish that i'm kinda glad to it. All went the way it went. So i ask you. Do you wish you would have done this sooner or were there like valuable lessons along the way the path you chose. I'm i'm my dad. Always says nothing. Bad's ever happened to me. Nothing i mean. I'm not here mean case. By case scenario of course but In this case like yeah. I mean everything everything that's happened to me throughout my career. It's it's led me to worry today. So i can't regret or be down on myself for not making this decision earlier I i don't know. I i i think i think it was like perfect place. Perfect time like obviously having those couple awesome. I record like sock like That's a good bummer. But at the same time. It brought me who i am today in. I feel like i've i've i've taken it all on a five k. I've gotten dropped by. Bodyshop knocked out. I've been served. You know so Marked box off. now. I'm just like ready to win. I'm ready to knock someone out. I'm ready to sub somebody. I'm i'm ready to all those boxes. But you know i think everything happens for a reason and i i think it led me to where i am today and i think mental is like i'm best. I've ever been so If i wouldn't have had to go through all those hardships in crappy moments in the ma life which a lot of you know the enemy fighters know what. I'm talking about I would appreciate as much in really took into account of what james cross had me do and all that and all the work that i put it it all made it worth it. It's all worth it question about. Having no fans. I have to imagine it's a different experience. But having james krause now there and hearing his voice something that you're you're not to used to hearing during a fight Does the fact that there's no fans and all that help you dial-in even more to new situations like that. So the first time. When i thought julia where i thought no fans it was really weird very i was. It was uncomfortable This one i. I just think. I was prepared mentally prepared because i was used to. Having james voice in tim's voice and i was prepared to have her corners voice her dad and than our sister insists so i was like prepare for all that saw like every time i visualize or i thought about the fight like i was ready for all that James voices very loud and it was. It was cool because the first time in a fight where he told me to your point points in the fight where you know like maybe you take her down. He's like. I wanted to stop. Look at me. And i wanted breath calm down and i've never looked at a coach so much of my life in a fight and i would like be on top. I look over there. Lock eyes with them. He's a calm down. So that was that was really cool and having no fans it sucks like i. I love the fans. I think they're wild and crazy. And i love that But also no fans is cool. Because now i can you know. I've i've crowson man in the corner so i i love here in them and yeah i mean i don't mind no fans at first i was like really gonna bother me this fight but i just mentally prepared for her so much and i happened overly like this one probably because i want. I don't know forgive me. But what have been your walkout songs in the us Gosh johnny cash Gosh what was it. I don't remember johnny cash song some. I don't know i kind of like coming up. Grungy things i'm blanking on what up. Stranglehold them Mostly gestion for the new gene and twenty five win fans or back yes who appeal the old guys like me and Good luck it's young kids with theirs by bands are older as welk. Go watch top gun. And there's a perfect song for you as awesome opening and it goes with your leaping. That would be great. I have thought about that. When i sure it's weird like when i i usually don't like what are you to walk out to. I don't know until i hear. And i one time tim now or in the car in walk outside it came to a black buddy by the spider bait version and i was like all pump tonight like goosebumps all over. This is the one. I'm coming into this. So it's it's really what. I picked out fight song like really random. It just like body chooses it for being but no i do like that. When athletes thought about that one that would have been if they ever come back. Goes into what obama by the way down. Yeah but i think it's kenny loggins or someone saw the song banging all right. Here's a couple more quick ones. As i could hide behind people will say that your cardio. I'm just going to tell you. I thought for a second cardi might be an issue because it seemed like there was some heavy breathing. That's a perfect segue with what you were saying. But the cardio never ended. You still kept coming atr so you some of it was just adrenaline or it definitely wasn't gassing because you still have more energy at the ending bought till the very end so i was a little bit confused because you didn't slow down but i did see some heavy breathing like i am so glad you're bringing this up because i have had a lot of people be like. Oh god she's so tired and like all. She slowed down the second round. Like we're in a fistfight like you're gonna get tired. Unfortunately i'm the kind of person like when i get tired of show it but like you said like i. I didn't stop. I felt like my rounds. Got better and better watch my fight like four or five times already. But like i felt like i got like i got better and better each round Began i was really. I was really damn tired But that's why you have that minutes to sit there and be tired in like you know. Get your shit together I you know maybe a little bit of adrenaline. But i did. I don't know. I feel like i did a lot of things that i wanted to do. And i don't think that. I i don't think mccurdy oh hurt me at all like i feel like cardio can always be better Or you know. I could be is. I can be more efficient. I could have been way. More efficient The second round. I kept lifting her and stuff i. I don't know why i wanted to do that. I think i was like sorta be a and just like i just like to do that. I don't know Be i. I could definitely be more efficient but no my cardio felt great in there in the sense but i just get tired but i can fight tired. I'm great at fighting tired. Obviously i'm just all right last question in looking at your resume when you did dip out of the see before coming back there was one fight you took at one fifty five king of the cage one and ask. You could die at any point in time. did you ever consider. Efl thing going on like if you'll see hadn't called you back. Was that on your radar. Why why did you do lightweight. That's literally thirty pounds more than you did saturday. So i talked to race f. o. Credited about that and he talked me that he would give me an opportunity to but seeing as i was walking around so small i was walking around a hundred and fifty pounds and i was like eating a lot like trying to gain weight and i just like couldn't i was having a hard time gaining weight. First time in my life might have mind you Having a hard time think we might allow them keeps calling me. Sorry okay we can hear you. Can you hear us. We can't see you because it will call kind of interrupted it. Sorry unawares stupid. Tim elliott Yeah you hear us. China can carry going to give those the answer via audio. Listen to channel as you come up here fell oh man yes so But yeah i was walking around so little for that fight for during that time i literally had ice cream the night before i fought that one at one fifty five I just i just you know. I just felt like being smaller was a or being just too big little right now but That was definitely thought. Though i mean at all at that point i would take any fight. I just want to get back in their with a long workout. Great win on saturday. Thank you so much for hopping on with us here till tim. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot but now seriously enjoy it and Kelly for your next mike. Thanks thanks again. I appreciate it to read about that. That side door bonus. I need it days at sea rights on a check. And if not will put the pressure long ban fleiss's higher. Let's go dana. Want congratulations again. Gene mazzone or that win on saturday on. Yeah like like. I say there was some heavy breathing but i think maybe was excitement nerves. Adrenaline casino never stopped coming forward. And that's why. I wanted to make sure i pointed that out And just give her the chance to explain. You know what. I mean but more than anything. And i heard that a few times. This weekend is managing your cardio and those lifts wrestling and how much they can take to god of you You know that in controlling your breathing. And then i remember conor mcgregor. When he first lost to nate d as he said he should have been more efficient and managed. Carl better he went after nate diaz and then he realized in the second round only should this guy's not going away and i put a lot into every shot you don't have to put a lot in the every shot because sometimes it adds up hectic. Yes whether that's what they do at you. They they volume onto. You know what i mean. And so connor was better at that. Managing is efficiency in the second. And that's why he got the close decision in one night and if he loses a goes and his own to against navy as the trajectory of that he doesn't get a chance to fight at our s really doesn't much up is he is appealing on social. Media's use appealing enough to maybe get that fight versus floyd mayweather knows everything. Changes from speaking of floyd mayweather. Not that he boxed but there was some boxing over the weekend. So what did you think overall before we get kevin on we want. We want to get all his thoughts together. But you have to three minutes here. Essentially the rules were gonna make this fight look more like a sparring session till which we all said. Come on you know pretty much any fighter you put out there. They're not going to be able to do a sparring session in front of the world on tv like that. Let alone mike. Tyson roy jones junior but when they actually bought They looked better than i thought they would. But they had obviously slowed down a little bit. You know with age so it did kinda looked like a sparring session. A little bit but It wasn't so bad. I followed a lot of it on social media than i get to see the fight I think when you add the whole card and everything that happened some of the matchups were a little lopsided was little strange at times but having snoop dogg as commentator. I know why we keep doing that. But overall. I really i think over look at it and just kind of go. That was cool. You know twenty people told me they loved him. You're you're the one. That's not. And i think i could go another nineteen saying i loved it and then i get one that goes now. I'm not saying i disliked it. I'm just saying it was cool. But it wasn't like if they said we're doing another one next week at island. Sign up while say this much. The whole my two uncles finding a barbecue bid. You're forty nine you know like oops forty nine He's what roy. Jones was fifty. One and analog. Mike tyson was fifty four. So maybe my older cousins. But he's still try. I mean he still has a lot of flavor obviously so Is is a entertainment for older cats and being the younger cats. Get a kick out of do biles. I lose the uncles. Because you're up there. I know this guy. He's from the so cal area for many years since the late eighties. Early nineties It's not that hard to do the math gold. The older cousins is. You're right up there man. You know they had a the smaller ringing which i think was probably good In fact they were saying it probably ads for more action. By the way they had a four man booth there with moral rinaldo and ray leonard israel sonya and Snoop and one of them. I think leonard or somebody may have said they probably push for more action but could also lead for more tie ups. That's the one thing that i think was like. Oh not that. I sat one them to sit there and Just throw haymakers. But i think with a little bit of room you might have given roy jones a little bit more Real estate you know to use his foot work and establish the job in kind of moved. But i think he felt like either had the job or if tyson game had to clinch now to be fair tyson also initiated of clinching to mean those rules benefit. Mike tyson his style right. The phone booths fighting style A definitely does not suit. Roy jones junior house smaller rameez every into that ring when he was in his prime. So it benefits tyson. But i think they found their ways around it. Yeah there were there were some clinching and all that and it's to be expected but Overawe wasn't hating it. I thought it was okay. It was it was interesting interesting. That were yeah. I would agree with that. all right. Listen before kevin. I only pops in and we continue the boxing talk What do you think will be. Ramada made off. Surprise is gonna be when he meets with dana. No ma'am this. But i'll tell you what as a fan. It's starting to get on my nerves because it was. I'm going away. i'm going away then. Dana through the lifeline. Get into stay. Think he might. I think maybe just spur of the moment everything going on then have you came back and said no. No no no. I'm staying away then the meeting then. Now habib's kinda got his line out there. It's actually starting to annoy me a little bit. And if i'm a fighter price starting to piss me off because destined buoying i mean. These talked about what he wants. And kinda sucks that. He's just gotta sit around and wait for all this to work out. I mean enough's enough to just tell us you are fighting or not we have. He says he's not we have now. He's thrown out. That my maybe make you throw out these little lifelines Keeps throwing out. These lifelines. The fact that usc doesn't come out. And just say the titles vacant it. It can be annoying a little bit and it's and it's downright confusing at times to. I suppose we have two months before that other fight and has been one month since this. I would like i would like to be settled in the next two weeks. I think that would be fair to everybody involved As far as what to surprise my be all of is okay. I'm coming back but you know this is my demand. Maybe gsp who knows the always throw dsp's name out there and he's getting close to forty as well All right Shimmy shimmy have has the ronan but fear not it sounds like he's still in spite versus the on edwards on december nineteen and then kevin holland was re booked to fight jock array sousa. So he was supposed to die. Joker hermansson this weekend but he got the road. Though he was out and marvin vittori steps in marvin vittorio was supposed to fight. Souza in a couple of weeks he was all step in so he steps in he bites great chance for him and then kevin holland realized that. Think you know without speaking to him. The symptoms weren't too bad. I'm already gone at. I'm already back in action. I can now get in there against sousa take batori spot so i think it kind of all worked out. I think who wouldn't prefer to be a main event on a fight night versus getting you know just thrown into a paper. You not not not not that. That's a horrible plan. B but i still think it all worked out. So that's the latest On that front and beneath dr us. He's fighting's in carlos fajita so now if you look at your lightweight bingo card. O'ryan number two fighting mcgregor varieties in the usa today. A rankings. tony number. Four fighting charles lavar number six. An bonilla should fifteen fighting ahead at fourteen a few weeks ago. We have elder at twelve Rda at seven. What does that leave gates. The third ranked guy. Rda technically now. He's one and it's been a few weeks at number seven. Dan hooker allied with the number nine. Glick gregor gillespie number. Eleven is lamarcus chef at thirteen mockups. The one that fell out of the right. And that's what felder stepped in. So if you're kind of figuring out we'll what's next in a post habib life you know bite way life than it looks like foyer versus mcgregor would probably be it man I can't imagine ferguson. Coming off a loss would fight for the for the undisputed Lavera doesn't mean that he's far away. But i think the other ones are there and as far as what you do with michael chandler. I don't know he was ready to go in case gauge. Your hubby. go what i think you know. He just wants to wait for another booking needed. Want to turn it around for december twelve. Why you stolen. I thought it was interesting. That the ufc kind of put that out there. They said that. Just not in any rush to book. Michael chandler. you know. And i think we've all been sitting around gone and second now any second. Now he's going to dip in there and he's going to get Get his feet. Wet not octagon what it looks like. Things are just a little bit more chill than than we think. And maybe maybe with a couple of fights shaping out. That's where we plug in michael chandler. Yeah you know. What did you listen to when dana was talking about or did you read the article. Read the article. Okay when you go back and listen to dana you know what he goes he goes. He just went to a camp. He wants to let his body. You know he basically just went through away cut so we don't want to turn them around so quickly. Memorize tone you when they did the whole brandon marino davis figure. I don't think that's really what was concern. And you can only pointed dana white whitey. He kind of says that a lot himself and now is the perfect example you know. He was showing concern for an athlete. That just went awake. What's the rush. We'll book next year sometime. Hey look to tap the breaks you know but over here. He needs these guys that love. You know he's gonna turn it around. Because are you a fighter or not. You're gonna dig in or not when you better answer the phone relieved you. It's just what script does he wanna read. What's convenient at the time. And that's fine because again they're all grown grown men and women The regret only comes after. One of the two loses negotiating. Have done it you know but whatever I'll start goes start. start at. That wasn't happening. Oh wasn't i thought that's what you told me last night. I don't remember anything with me but anyway we'll figure it out in just a second. I'll do some quick reading right. I got to shoot a quick text to kevin. Eileen give them a little bit of a nejd goes. Did you catch that female fighter who weighed in at one thirty five versus five hundred five pound guy. It happened in russia. I saw the. Did you see what you think. Yeah i see that fight. But i saw what had happened with all that and I mean i don't know little ridiculous. It's i can't even really as an adult. It's never really been anything that Even if i throw away what i do for a living i could sit back and watch say man seems like it'd be really really cool. I really have no interest in it. I don't know man versus woman you know that. That's kind of weird and then We've seen we've all gotten our kick out of the really big guy versus the small guy. Remember emmanuel you are bola. Keep hackney in the afc early on and inaki bono. Heus went at it. So i just really doesn't interest me but am i kinda want i kinda of wish. I knew what that dude was thinking like because at some point i have to imagine healthwise is not as good good thing. Oh yeah no doubt that guy. I mean his strategy was all right which was basically smothered the young lady He couldn't even get his arms around the do anything. It was more of a circus show. And everything i just wonder. Was it worth it. I guess in russia may be. It's not as big of a deal for men and women the basically hit each other even in that type of an exhibition but I don't know i. I can't say that it didn't watch it. I can't say. I guess. I didn't find it entertaining. Good for her he got he fell down and once he fell down he was like like a turtle just couldn't get up and she finished on the ground and pound so i just hope we don't see another one of those men i don't like the ending. Where if he hits her she goes line through the robes. It's like what's that. That's not worth anything for people. That silly right right at that point i mean just just have some fun and put them in a bouncy room with billows or something and you know i figure something out there but the actual combat part of it now for me all right. Let's bring in kevin. I only last week. We add some some hall of famers. These another hall of famer comes from the world of boxing now being at least almost a couple decades deep into 'em as well kevin. I only what's going on kabc To see you how you ben really yourself. I am awesome Surprisingly good show the other night. I was shocked right and i think you said this might be my last exhibition because going in you weren't warming up to it but coming out of chain heart. Yeah i mean here's the thing. I was promoted horribly beforehand. They did. They made autonomous stakes. Which i know the pay per view is going to do a good number so it makes me think what it would have been promoted correctly but you know. They did a great job on saturday night. The event was well produced and they hip hop in boxing together. And that's been tried a million times. Usually it fails. But i thought this time they did a really good thing. I talked to ryan kavanagh the ceo of trailer and he had mentioned that what they had done was they. They had Music stage and then they had the rink and they lit them both like movie sets and then they have them separate and they were able to switch back and forth between them and they had The old hbo box crew. That did the production so a really came off. Well and i thought like you know the music will good the actual good look out of place in switched right into the boxing and you know while they didn't have any fight on the undercard that we're like must see fight or good fight. They were they were fun in kind of a strange sort of way and then tyson came out there. I mean he didn't look bad. I mean you looked at my tyson you go. I could envision him fighting right. This was the old mike tyson. I remember and i wanna ask you to. Because yeah i also had no interest. Didn't order it and then of course everybody's talking about it on saturday in anything that we did that was related to it. Had a lot of traffic. Yeah and i'm thinking well like this really really could have been a lot bigger all the way around so anyway. I finally got around to cnn. It the first thing that jumped out at me was the ring was smaller. Did that backfire. Because some one of the commentators either eight leonard or or or maybe israel saying well. It's probably to get them to engage more by having small rain but at the same time. Did we see too many tie ups. Because roy didn't really have as much room to maybe move around. I guess outbox out sweet science the bigger guy. I i think the reason that roy was holding on george was was to number one. You know he was getting hit by some pretty good body shot and i just thought that tyson was in better. Shape tweeted during the fight. That tyson had a lot more gas. Left in the tank Then roy jones stated. I picked jones to win because i kind of felt like jones will be able to move a little bit in the speed would be different but where i got. That incorrectly was the fact. That roy just didn't have the legs that he used to have and he couldn't move in speed wasn't there so it was gonna be a close fight. They were going to be together fighting in close. You know tyson just had more left. I many i hadn't fought a long time. And i think that he was fresher. One hundred pounds. I don't know how well known that is but he lost one hundred pounds and he looked terrific. And i thought you know he fought a really good fight You know for you know. Hey is he going to beat any top contenders now. No but you know to beat a fifty one year old roy jones. He had more than enough to do that. Do you want to see something like this again. Whether it's most or tyson again somebody else. Same rules two rounds. You know And you know similar. I guess age i guess so that the level of competition isn't like emba some twenty eight year old you know. That's that's obviously in way. Better shape yeah that you know i mean they are gonna think the tyson's going to fight holyfield in his next fight that that's the expectation you know. Here's the thing. I don't wanna see fifty plus year old guys fight because you know that's right and it sets a bad precedent and there is a chance that you guys get hurt. You don't need to be getting. Hit him ahead at this age but i thought that the way they fought was pretty good. A lot of body shots thrown there are more than headshots and i didn't think that that was a dangerous fight that i saw. But hey if you put mike evanger in there and if andrew's going to be competitive and you know he's gonna wanna win. You know how that goes like. How does that change the dynamic of the way. The fight goes I thought it went. Well the other day i just the idea of fifty plus guys fighting scares me. I don't wanna see any bad things happen. And i think the odds of something bad happening or increase when you know the older fighters put into the ring kevin. It seems like a lot of people. Enjoy this card going forward if they were to. Do you know holyfield like you said they did that. And if they may be tweaked a few rules here and there where it just felt more like it was an actual actual fight. What do you think of pay per view like that with do as compared to some of these big. Ufc card set get thrown out or even some of these boxing matches. Could they possibly outsell. Oh yeah no i. I don't have an exact number yet. But i'm pretty sure they're going to do over a million on this show us so think about that. Fifty dollars shot. And what is that. Going to kill earl spencer and garcia who fighting this week right. I mean that's coming one week later. That's really going is andy garcia. That's gonna really kill them. Because they're they're asking. I think seventy five dollars for their pay per view. But i think that they can't you know. Hey look i wrote him. I call him on saturday night. You know the biggest thing to buy pay per view name recognition. You know you have to have a name and people wanna see see these people on that and that's why when you look in the us you. Why does conor mcgregor sell so much. Because he he is so well known and the ufc does a better job of washing of promoting the fighters you know. Even if the fighters aren't on the same level in terms of talent right like let's take boxers who were really good and maybe to see fighters who aren't necessarily as good at their sport but the ufc does a better job of promoting the name so that switches so the ufc fighters will sell better because you know dana and his company do a better job of promoting it now Tyson obviously had a huge name from back in the day. roy jones. You know. Not as big but roy jones one of the big names of all time on he stayed in the public eye by broadcasting and training and he fought until he was fifty so he had a lot of stuff. You know so they were both household name. I think when you bring a vendor holyfield holyfield holyfield's one of the biggest you know. I i don't wanna give an exact number. But i'd say five or ten biggest draws of all time in pay per view you put him with tyson and the history they had. It's solve a lot a lot a lot of paper. How much did jake. Paul being on this card did that. Appeal to the younger generation. Zapped imagine a lot of people that may be ordered. This card are like us. That grew up watching mike tyson. We wanted to relive that memory of fight night and all that but how much of these pay per views that are sold you think were some of the younger generation that maybe grew up. Hearing about mike tyson's punch out or something. I don't want to see what this guy's all about. yeah. I'll just say this saturday when the car was going on My niece who is twenty two or twenty three years old texted me and she's never texted me about a fight before she said has jake. Paul fought yet right and oh it was. It was very funny. And i think certainly you know. He's got a humongous region social media among people of that age until he fought on a couple months ago. You know maybe a year. I never heard of got right. And then when he's twenty. I heard i got twenty seven million followers But i had never heard of but people of that age had heard of him and so i think there was some i think tyson was the draw but j. paul was a grid smart. Put him on the undercard. Because i think he brought some young people along that wanted to see him fight and You know again. I thought that was a mismatch and a little bit crazy but you know. I think no doubt jake paul help self you brought up the name vander holyfield. Who are the other names that you would. If you had to guess would be in these types of pools for these types of conversations. You know i. I don't know that there's a lot of other heavyweights out there that you can put in. Lennox lewis would be a natural guy. But i don't think he's gonna wanna do that. That's not his thing. And then where do you go like. How low down the list you go because the there's not a lot of big name heavyweights That would be of that age right so they gotta be contemporaries of tyson. You know so fifty plus you would think or late forties and also like shannon briggs. Do it does a shannon briggs. Bring people back. I think both of the klitschko brothers. That would never be there saying you know they would not do that. And so. I don't know but i think what they may do as they may get fighters and other way classes. You know so. It's not necessarily always going to be mike fighting. You know they're going to bring some of these other people and it's also important to note guys that there's two different entities here there's tyson's legends league which is one entity and then there's trailer which is another entity and so they kinda did business the other day but you could see trailer having their own cars in legends. The having their own car so trailer kaput fights on and not have the old guys fight right. And maybe do more the jake paul. And you know the celebrity boxing Whereas tyson is looking to put up the quote unquote legends on. So i think that's you know important to keep an eye on. Dana refers the mike tyson as close personal friend of his he. A it may be by not seeing the potential business transaction that he possibly missed out on. I don't think he would ever admitted. But i mean that is a lot of money kevin in and you're right. I think holyfield tyson could be even bigger. Yeah i don't think he blew it though. Because i think you know they have their lane and they're really set and they're doing really well and i think that takes them out of their lane and you know i think the thing that they know. What is he trying to give even. If you don't buy all his shows what he's trying to tell you you're going to see the best fighters in the world and working to make the best fight the best. That's what he's trying to sell. And if you go out there and you're putting fifty four year old. Mike tyson for fifty one year old roy jones. You're going away from your core belief. That is exactly what you know. You know what he is trying to accomplish. So i don't know yet. He left money on the table. You know i can say hey. I had this idea and i love money on the table right but i don't think that was dana. Thanks so i. I think he did the right thing by sticking out of that and you know going on keeping doing what he's doing but i think you know the message to boxing from owners. Look at what's going on. You have to build stars and this shows if you build sars and hey look jake paul star right. He's not a boxing star but he's a well known figure. He is a celebrity people. Know it's kind of like how trump got you know. Donald trump was exactly who he is but wasn't donald trump before he ran for president would he have gotten elected right But he was so well known that he was such a big figure in our society that when he ran people paid attention to them. And i think that that's what it is you know. Just i don't care what you say about me but just spell my name correctly that you know that name. Recognition in both pay per view and in politics is critical. And i think you know. We're seeing that and i think that's the message that boxing promoters need to take a make my guys into stars. Then you can. Do you know do your thing. Well guess what i meant more though was it's just that i love. Your answer was the super boxing. That's been around went away. And then i thought was coming back with some possible big plan so i meant more under that umbrella. Yeah i think that they are you know. I think what they're going to do is until they get a settlement or get some kind of resolution out of their case with the fighters that are doing them The enemy fighters that federal court case. They have the antitrust case. I think they need to have a resolution there before they go in and move into boxing. So i think that that is you know sort of really what happened you know. It hasn't been publicly spoken about the to me. That's what you know. What kind of is there hesitation. Once they know where they're at their then they can go forward and try to do boxing. I think you know that they can make a difference in boxing but the for them to make a difference. They can't just cherry pick fights. Would they have to do. Is i think they have to get some fighters under under an umbrella and how regular occurrence where. Hey there's a fight that we wanna see the zoo zuko. Boxing puts on that other promoters. Have input on be difficult because there's so many competing entities out there right but i think that they have a lane they could run in. That would work. But i think that they have other business to take care of. I don't know we got that stadium here. A brand new stadium bouquet. Who's going to get to it first boxing. Mma and the prediction of what that fight will be. Well you know it was almost boxing because it was supposed to be tyson fury deontay wilder on december nineteen. So that would have been the fight. That was there then. The tv schedules mess that up. And so they They had to do that but you have to. You know you have see is going to be the one now because if we go into twenty twenty one in the covid restrictions. Ease i think the data via the the question is. How fast does this vaccine get things back to normal. You know from what. I've been here from talking to people in sports. Most people in sports or thinking like day of twenty twenty one will be normal on a sports schedule at that point then you can think about doing that kind of thing and dares not going to do it if he does not have a full stadium you know if he can get in there and put fifty or sixty thousand people in their. He'll do it. I think boxing. Would you would for twenty five or thirty thousand. You know where they're all spread out. So and i regard botching may beat them to it right because they may come up with a fema lopez fight or something like that that they throw in the arena in the stadium that they don't have it full they go. You know half or a third full. Whereas dan is not going to do it unless you can sell all the tickets so i think if if we get earlier to the fact that we're open and we're back to normal than i think it'll be ufc but if it takes longer to get back to normal. What the co than. I think it'll be boxing. I know it's kind of swing around answer but that that's sort of. I think how the reality is just a couple more real quick. Last i checked is that but crawford. That's your number one pound for pound. I have cannella number one in crawford number two thousand ask you can do anything to make a move Danny garcia i spent number four. And i had spent higher before dropped him down. Excuse me because of other guys performance you know you know. Pound for pound is a fluid thing. In my opinion. You know because guys don't it's not like college football or college basketball where they play at least once a week or sometimes a couple times week in basketball. Now you're only fighting. You know once every quarter basically all these guys So you have to look at performances. And so i. I think i have spent highest to. I've now got him down to four. I have immense respect for danny garcia. I think he's vastly underrated by the public. Not by other fires but by the public and i think you know if aaron goes out there and dominates danny garcia that is going to be really big to me but if you look at that top three. That's out boy it's a. It's a tough nut to crack in boxing. In whatever order. You want to have them terence crawford. Can hillel risen annoy anyway. Those three guys are special special fighters so era to get into that. He's going to really have to look good in my opinion against garcia but he has the kind of opponent that he can do it. You'll can time which just wanna make sure okay Mike tyson admitting the pot which i guess what. I came out anyway in the task. But i'm so now in ingrained in this whole you saw. I kind of know how they function where i know. They're a little bit more flexible on when you know he would slow did or not depending if he's a heavy user not bring me back to i guess they find in california Not under you sada. Whether any special rules could this be any form of a suspension because of the next edition. It doesn't apply he's part. There's two things so number one there's threshold so it's you know so you can take it. You can't smoke and have it in your system is under a threshold. Take one hundred fifty nanograms per deciliter so Smoking a joint or to join unless you do it in the locker room before you walk out should keep you keep you under the threshold. Now we know. Mike is a big smoker. And he's probably doing all the time so his threshold may have been higher so that is number one. So it's only a violation under you. Saw if you pass that threshold so you can have it in your system. And then it's only a violation if it's within the twelve hours before the competition or the Six hours after the competition so that eighteen hour window around the fight. That's how you saw to work otherwise. Marijuana is not a violation this is an exhibition. So i'm not one hundred percent certain how it's going to work what rules they had in place. This was not a sanction. california commission fight. They did get drug tested. I think you know more for public image than anything else I i don't think anything is going to come of the marijuana. I think they were looking for steroids and that kind of thing and then the last question is is that bruno sammartino shirt. Yes i could only see the san martino. Maybe anybody who wants to steal city brand is the website. I have another one. That has brew on their His picture on it I grew up in pittsburgh. Bruno was the champ in pittsburgh. So that's where I became bruno fan. But i steel city brand dot com has has these t shirts bought a couple of them there as a big fan of bruno. You guys who brought his owners. Yeah he. He helps the title for five years before she took him out. And all that was a little bit more of myra be i remember bruno. San martino the living legend for sure In fact last week we had mark ratner ryan in. He's a member of four hall of fame's you're a member of too right. Yeah so. I got a couple of to go stale. So i got some ways. I was so happy that you have see. Put mark that way. And i want to say that i was at the event when marcotte you know they may be announced in what was really cool. There's not many people in apex and so you think of an arena floor and it's a good size floor and after after the last pre limb. There was two title fights remaining so before valentina. Shevchenko's fight what you see. Is you know the comes on the board. You know they start in. I actually was the first person on. And i'll tell you a funny story about that video with me being on there too but i came on talking about rat ratner and everybody on the floor. Got up and they walk over. Mark was sitting on dana side of the ring. Dana got some marcus sitting by himself. Everybody circled around him. And they're all looking up at the board and mark realizes he didn't know until that moment what was going on and as they talk and everybody's hanging around him and then when they finally said dana said on the video marc ratner is going to be inducted in the us hall of fame. The everybody in the place started applauding. And there was this great. Thanks finally markets up and he goes over and he embraces dana and then his wife and son and daughter come off so they you know he didn't know they were gonna be there so he hasn't embraced with them then he sees me and he and i we've been friends for many many years. We have our embrace and and it was so good for him because mark is one of the best people that you know you ever would to meet you know just a class guy a humble guy who if anybody knows mark ratner they like him and it was so cool and the but the video. I was wearing a black t-shirt. My hair resolve the little. Here i have was. I was going to get a haircut that day and ufc called me and said hey we had. Somebody canceled on us. Can you come up earlier and do the video. So i immediately drive instead of getting a haircut. So i'm wearing gold nightshirt. They tell me well. You know what you can't wear that on the air because we don't have the ability to that logo on the air. And i had a polish ron. So they said. Do you have another shirt. i know. I don't travel carrying extra shirt. So they hand me a ufc t-shirts why can't wear this. You know. I can't have a ufc logo on you know wearing on a thing so i turn the t. shirt inside out. I pull it down over my head and you know as you can see. I'm a little bit of a big boy in. This was a large not an extra har-. My hair's all messed up. And now they go. Okay let's go and now i thought it here. I am the first person. I ran into the famous. What little hair. I have is all sticking out. I have a t shirt inside out. It looked like a goof. But i was happy to look like a goof for mark. That's an awesome story honestly You know you came in around the time. If i recall covering mixed martial arts around the time the market and this goes for you was welcome. What you guys did by Giving our sport a chance was tremendous than i remember. My dad broke open. The orange county register. I dunno familiar. You are with papers in any mark ratner guys going over to to the you'll see in this whole time. I think our dad treated the uc kinda like you know almost like what senator mccain said you know the human cockfighting You guys are crazy. Or whatever. But i remember read that headline. He just thought like ooh. Maybe you guys are up to something. Now he's a huge fan of anime. You got you know camille and a lot for me. It was ninety. So i watched the first couple. Us's right i just bought them and watch them. And i was at the review journal at the time in so i wanted to cover covered k. Want so that's all. I got the no scott coker. He was promoting the k. One show in vegas. So i i got to know scott by covered those shows i cover them. Moi tie shows as well as boxing. I because i i love to write about the fight so i watched. Mma wasn't caught him and may back in the day the ufc. One through five or six. And i quit watching it when emmanuel yarborough keith hackney and for people who don't know that fight that was six hundred pound emmanuel yarborough versus one hundred ninety pounds keith hackney when i saw that i go what the hell is this. This is like pro wrestling. And it's not. And so. I quit watching it so i had a period of time turns out i guess it was about three or four years. Maybe where. I didn't see any fights and then lorenzo resigned from the commission and it was. I think that was ninety nine and they said they were going to try to regulate in nevada. I went back to start watching it and actually went to a show in louisiana. Can't remember what number. And i didn't write it as the fight. I wrote it as you know what was the event light right inside. Cover that and then my first event that i covered as actually covering the fights was you The first one here in vegas which was ufc. Thirty thirty three. So i had been writing about it. You know because. Lorenzo resigned from the commission to try to get mma legalize. Of course any ended up by the ufc. That's sort of what got me involved in in covering it. That's awesome Wanted to tell you was you out. T shirted me. Because i love the bruno san martino but last week we add mark ratner and i put the saw. I put the international boxing hall of fame shirt on that. I had when you when rat iran i put it on in his spot was like yours. Fifteen minutes or so. You know i look. I realize i'm a sweaty bastard. Sometimes i put it back on the hanger. Because i was like gotta get olien soon. You know today. i've been looking everywhere for it. I almost wanted to strangle. Goes or my jack russell terrier or working gone. It's only been a few days. I wanted to rocket for you. But i got this under shirt on and then you rock the martinez so great job don. I appreciate that. Bruno is alleged. He deserves the extra hype. When we had mark ratner on one of the questions. I asked him was. Do you know have any idea of who you would want to end up you and that and asked them with the intentions of tom. I think kevin should do it. Because kevin understands all of the world's at mark has been a part of an. I can't go of anybody that could do a better job of of really putting that two words with was that something you would do. Its i mean for mark. I would do anything for mark i mean. Let let me say that. Whenever mark asked me to do i would do. Because that's the kind of person he is. I and to me. That would be the honor of a lifetime to be able to induct mark into a hall of fame in all because i just think the world mark and he's such a man of integrity And you know what you guys have been in the business a long time and you know everybody has a beef for somebody else and there's a lot of people that ripped up other people and everything. I have yet to meet the person who ever had a bad thing to say about. Mark ratner and For me if i if i had that to me would be an incredible honor to be able to induct mark into the ufc hall of fame. One more of an. I realize we took a lot of time. Sorry about that. How many dogs do you have now. I have four so we're pack out a little bit. you know. I got one sitting right behind the other Out hopefully you can hear him barking in the backyard while their plan announce the these mean old basset hounds. We haven't seen you in a while. And i know you are no longer with us. I think one of them was the one that was always by your feet. Ride the female. That was macy. So i i had to put her down about a year ago. I lost. I lost one toward the end of two thousand nineteen and then another at the beginning of this year. So yes. I'm from six to four. But those were my to rescue so i i had to rescue bassett's and four champion baskets now all my basseterre champs on hold of champions except for me right so did anybody take macy's spot. Yeah malkin is right there. So he's Mock about. I saw moon him so i got so all. My dogs are now named after Pittsburgh athlete so three of them are named after Pittsburgh hockey players. I've got malkin. He's named after afghani malkin appendage player. I've got crosby. He's named after sidney crosby. I've got mareo named. After mario lemieux and then the the fourth on the oldest one was named after a steelers player his name is joe he was named after. Joe greene got it. I love it. If you ever get another one that can be elsie. Yager nice perfect guard. Hey listen thanks so much. Always have a blast with the hopefully when things get back to normal. We can Reunite at mandalay bay like we used to in the pattern with you guys. Thanks guys thank you so much for dropping knowledge as always take care sir. It's guys there you go folks the great kevin Who will probably be in about another two or three hall of fame. Does such an awesome job of covering combat sports and can talk to you about any sport like he mentioned steelers He's become a big golden knights fan. I think that's the only i think he's pittsburgh across the board but he said man. The golden knights got me got a saas spot for him. He's a season ticket holder Yeah just just really really a class. Act i goes. I think that's it for today. Right good job right. yeah Like i said saturday was just an event gave the results and congrats again to anthony smith. Gina was on all the other winners and This weekend there's more fights man they just keep coming at us. It's jack the joker hermansson against marvin vittorio. Were really really happy martin. Because he's been wanting an opportunity like this and he's actually moving up two weeks right schooner really kind of like the same type of fire. I think the ground game is really really what you have to look out for but still you know two weeks before. That's no joke man so again. Much respect what he did and of course keeping locked may junkie throughout the week. We cover the sport of mixed martial arts in my opinion than anybody so check it out. Shout out to the writers of Editors all the people that hustle behind the scenes follow goes on social media is twitter and instagram. Handle are at the goes he h. e. z. E. and i can be followed at anime junkie george. We'll see you thursday noon. Eastern nine am pacific with another edition of mma junkie radio and be champion.
Joe Giudice's new XXX career, Lori Loughlin wants to 'move on' from college cheating scandal, Gabrielle Union breaks silence on 'AGT'
"And by. Or Sugar and spice. Welcome to the Newsy Nice, show I'm your host Rob Sousa joining me today is my friend Mark Lupo from US weekly magazine Hello. You! Rob I'm better now that we're together. So sweet. I actually sweet even would not record it. Which makes you know you're? You're the kindest read I have listened. What have you been up to this week? What celebrities have you been interviewing mark? Yes, have been very busy. Actually just interviewed Tara Reid. What tell me? What he has to, so she's up to. She's making some new movies, but the big news is that she's being considered for a role and the New Tiger King movie to play Carol Baskin. Asked her all about it. She confirmed that she is in serious talks and I am dying. This is fantastic. This would be opposite. Nicolas Cage exactly Nicholas. Cage into hurried tiger. You not even handle unruly for her. She's had some bad luck and I think that. That she was the original Lindsay Lohan type party very talented, but maybe wasted a little bit by going out and partying too much to ask her about that was to of course I asked her about it, and she told me that she's a different personnel. She did have some crazy times, but she's matured. She's been through cynical stuff and she's ready to get back to business I love. I'm also loving too. I just started to listen to US weekly's. US Hot? Hollywood podcast is love this. Some of your friends from the magazine doing it. WHO's on it? I love it. Yes, a bunch of my talented colleagues Travis Cronin Sarah here on Brody Brown. They do really really great job as a final love it. Yes, subscribe if he. If you have a chance, I'm a big big fan marks. You know more time it is, it is not. Dong Ding Dong Ding Dong. Ding Dong the chimes of Big Ben so an exclusive story to start of our show today. Joe Ju- dice is planning a CRA important offy. Yes, you did. He I so we actually told you before anybody else. The Joe was looking to make some money working in the adult entertainment business and then poof. Joe confirmed that he was selling X. X. rated toys. You know what lean re doesn't look like. It's GONNA stop. Stop there. Let me explain so. Joe needs to make some money. Theresa was the breadwinner in that family. For years that reality show the real housewives on Bravo really paid to Treasa a lot of money, but now no longer living together in Italy. He needs to start to make his own money. A- pandemic is not helping. Admit that also he does have limited skills, limited education, and so. Joe Does Not have the most options out there which is. Is, why the adult entertainment business is looking so appealing to him sources. Tell me it started with Joe Selling adult toys, but it won't be long until he is stripping or even king adult movies mark. Would you watch off? You know I'm very curious by nature listen. We're no. We're on a budget right now. During the pandemic, so my paying for this. No, but while I watch it. Absolutely, it's amazing. We told you first on this show. Show that chats Johnson from the bachelorette would be doing the same thing, and now he is doing just that he's confirmed the story. To what is it about reality stars and the Adult Business or rob I think it's because he's reality. Stars are addicted the spotlight and they need some quick cash, so I think it makes sense as their next step, right? There's actually quite a long list of them of course Kim. Kardashians the most successful she started. Her career exploited respect without adult tape I. don't necessarily think you can say. She was in the adult film business, but she didn't make not tape also, too. I think I'm taking mom. She made a an adult takes. We shouldn't be so surprised that Joe is going to do this also, too. You're right. He loves the spotlight being on a reality show you get used to it, and it's way to make quite a lot of money really really quickly, which brings us to our poll question of the day. Sources tell not Gaza. The Joe is planning creer in the pornography grief, would you? Yes or no to change at not nice rob or our facebook page, not gossip you converge, You can leave a comment and be sure to check back tomorrow to hear your results or even maybe check back on our next show which I. Think is Monday to get those results mall. What have you been looking on yes? Oh, Rob, I'm happy to share a police cover story on the new issue out on Friday. ooh Lori Loughlin is longing to move on from her nightmare rob army. All the story has just keep. Keeps going and going and going, but. Our sources are telling us and we're reporting at Lori Loughlin her husband Moscow genuinely, and their daughters Bella and Olivia jade are ready to put a college cheating scandal behind them now a source revolt revealed exclusively to US weekly in the new issue. They're all longing for the day when they can go back to normal when they can put this nightmare behind them now until Lori and Moscow served time, they really can't put this nightmare behind them. A sources told us up. Lori will be likely serving her sentence at the Federal Correctional Institute in. Dublin California where Felicity Huffman did her time. That's right that's right. It's so. So interesting fascinating story, it really isn't. Yes. It's been going on a long time, but I didn't understand until nine mark. Thank you was for a year. They were denying the of fighting this. They were saying they were innocent. Something changed, and you've got to the bottom. Of course you have. They just want to move on Unin till they do that. This is always gonNA be around. How are the daughters reacting? What what? What are they up to? Yes, so sources told US weekly that a Levy beller actually really proud of their mom. They know that this is the best way to move forward and they are. Of Her all the way Gosh and WANNA buy. What is she doing what he's doing to get ready to prepare for jail? LA, so a source has told me that Lori is laying low in her home right now and preparing for her interview with the corrections or before she gets sentenced. OSHII has to do an interview before the sentencing. Oh, yes, she has a lot to prepare for a and that's only in a few months away. So lorries quite busy right now. Right and you said laying low, so we shouldn't expect a big Barbara Walters. Sit Down Interview. She's going to keep quiet for a little bit. Yeah I think yeah I. Think has learned. Learned her lesson I. Think you are right so this story is wild. Gabrielle, Union, who is sort of a door, is finally breaking her silence about alleged racism on America's got talent, so she sat down for an interview with rioting spoke about all the problems. She encountered at the show including on her very first day when she said she was greeted by Simon Cowl. cowl and puff of smoke. He smokes at the show I've asked him about this and I do say he does still smoke, but now he smokes outside. She's allergic to cigarette. So this was not a very good start. She thought produces would tell him to stop, but she claims that never happened also to. She did confirm the Jay Leno storage was a guest judge. Judge on the show and he made a racist joke comparing Simon's dogs to food in Crean restaurant, she said to Rieter, but this really upset that she held Jay Leno. In high regard. He was an early champion of her career and she wasn't prepared for the joke. It was wildly racist, but he didn't stop there. She also claims the different contestants were given different. At the show, particularly those of color, they got a lot less time in the hair and makeup chair. Television is a visual medium. If you look good, you do have an advantage. America's got talent did respond to variety saying they have over twenty five full-time hair and makeup people on the show. Half of them are people of Color Mark while she's telling this story NBC and the producers have released the findings from the investigation into her departure, and her remarks, and they found no evidence of racial bias to questions mark. Will this hurt her career? And do you trust the investigation's findings? What do you think? Questions Rob Listen. I'm a big Fan of Gabrielle Union. her sharing her triggers. You know she has a longtime career do I. Trust the allegations nor do I trust her investigation hard to say I mean it's a huge moneymaker for NBC ing. They have to protect it so I'll take everything with a grain of salt in May. Two I hope this doesn't hurt her career. Coming forward being a whistle, blow telling what happens. Happens shouldn't hurt your career. I am worried. Oh, TV, the entertainment business is a very very small close world and Simon Simon Cowl. Sorry is one of the most powerful people on TV so I hope there's no retribution mark. What have you been working on with Matt? Lauer Stories Wild Yes more drama at NBC Matt. Lauer is really upset with his former colleague Savannah Guthrie. Matfield betrayed might savannah after rape claims were made against him now and rob I know you've been on the today. Show many times in the past. I'm also a really big fan of the show. I watched the show daily and I actually saw Savannah's reaction on air. When the claims were announced, she called them up shocking and appalling. Now our sources tell us that Matt Lauer felt like Savannah jumped on the chance to attack him and has not given him a fair shake. My sources tell us. Savannah has no interest in communicating with Matt and does not want to hear what he has to say. What do you think it's really wild story here I think van is in a position where she couldn't really win in. She was told that night's the night that he got fired Savannah's called and was told next morning. You're GONNA be hosting. The today show with Matt Lauer hit on the show for twenty years. He really was the face of the show was. Was the Matt Lauer show after Katie couric meredith left Savannah. Yes was the CO host, but he really was matched show so I, think personally. She handled it with grace with dignitary. It's a very hard story to tell to look in that camera and tell your audience. This is something that is not easy I. Think she did a remarkable job I, also think. It's unrealistic for Matt to one people to defend him or come over to his side of the argument here. The evidence appears to be overwhelming. It's very very tricky more. Do you think Matt's friends? He sources apple, or are they letting Kim by telling the story? Or what do you think? Yeah? I think the best thing that Matt's friends can do right now is to stop Tom. Shut up shut up sometimes to be a really good friend is to say absolutely nothing and to shut up this story. You're get love. Mark Justin Bieber is threatening to sue a plastic surgeon. So e news got a cease and desist letter that was sent from just in an Haley's. to Dr Daniel Barrett thing. That's his name Barret. They're alleging that he used her likeness and image to help. He's business and spread lies also to. He's in a ton of trouble for using Justin Song without permission. All the songs are copyrighted, so let me explain what's going on here Dr. Brett. Held up to pictures of Hailey. Baldwin obviously she has aged in between them. She's OP. We all do. It's natural, but she does look a little bit different birth pictures the before. He's claiming that. She had her nose done his claiming in his opinion. It looks like she had a skin tightened. It looks like she had a draw contoured. It looked like she got fillers in her cheeks and lips. She does look very different in these photographs also, too, though he's got some cheapest doctor, so he's never bet he's not performed surgery on them. He's just given he's opinion. He also put on Justin, Song sorry underneath his comments. Now it's interesting. You've worked on TV for a very long time. Are Actually the copyrights for? For songs for music is really really really powerful, and they don't let you do this, so he might lose. The lawyer might lose this lawsuit. Claiming there was any plastic surgery, but I think he's got a good case over the song because it's copyrighted. What do you think mark? Is this Dr just being cheeky and Dorsey? We know what you do in promoting yourself and your business, but he is also giving his professional Pinon is not claiming that he did the work. He's just saying it looks like she had done what do you? Think this is kind of hilarious. The is totally capitalizing on Tiktok. He's reaching a new generation of people. You know it's no different than any doctor. Commenting an article, a new story is just doing it now to a wider younger audience to wild and I. do think the fact. They they bit. They took the bait. The fact that they responded with the low search has made this even bigger. I haven't heard about this until I saw the legal. Let's I. Think this doctor knows exactly what he's up to a dad. I say it's a little bit of a genius. Move to make. Hey what's going to happen right now mark what's coming in as we speak, we've got our poll results. Duh, Duh, very official bog. You hopeless defects, Hanalani. We revealed that Kylie Jeddah is the most searched celebrity. Yeah, while are in quarantine. My question was. Are you obsessed with her? Urging not care less now I thought the results would not be favourable to Kylie. The this result would happen get. Ninety eight point seven percent. Let's say address don't can. True or are. We just started today because on US weekly on your website on my website, not gossip whenever I do Kardashian Jenner Story. All my friends are we don't care. She always gets the most hits so things off here. Are We tell the truth where you? This obsessed ball could not care less spur up on obsessed I. Am the percent who is honest and on the record I will always be honest on the record of up. I love the credentials, but with that bigger hit you as a as a podcast alienate ninety eight point seven percent. Actually agree. Secretly intended to but I I just. Don't forget to vote on today's poll event. Joe From the real housewives, doing a x rated movie. Would you watch? Goto, twitter page at Not Nice Rob or facebook page you can leave a comment Ben Naughty gossip and be sure to check back on our next show to hear your results now on nicest of the day. Mall. This is my favorite part of the show, always happy serving as good news. And I'm happy to report that. Kensington Palace top our list the nicest of the day I was listening to the show yesterday. Where you guys talked about Tatler magazine, reporting Duchess Kate feeling exhausted and trapped after Harry and Meghan exited the royal family. Well, the palaces, clapping back the rare statement in response. Yes, get this. I actually reached out the palace yesterday. It has for the statement for US weekly and they told me quote. The story contains a Sweif of inaccuracies and false misrepresentations, which were not put to Kensington Palace prior to publication. Of this when I think it's a swamp and not a slave to begin her. Book. It is wild. Let me slide here. It's interesting so whenever Mall Crisis Story I write a story or anybody else in the entertainment writer story you should go to the subject of who you are reporting on and asked for a comment so whenever we do boil story, we go to the palace and ask them to to make a comment. Nobody wants to writer story. That's not correct. We love feedback, because if I'm bad to report something that isn't true. I don't want to. To report that, so I think historically mark, you can back me up on this. The panelist haven't never commented. They can just ignore us. We send them common calls. Email them. We found them and they don't respond. They sort of like flick us off light borough fly. They just care now. They're fighting back and I actually think this is a very good thing, not just for the royals, but also for celebrity reporting. We're in this together so i. want to know what Kate thinks. Thinks about a story a WANNA. Get credit so I think it's actually a really good thing and now a naughtiest of the day. Naughty Naughty Naughty Naughty Naughty Naughty. This is a wild story, so we reported a couple of days ago. That Mary Kaye Ulsan is getting a divorce now we know what the final Straw and you're not going to believe it. So at the beginning of the pandemic her soon to be ex husband Lydia Alabama Lydia wanted to move his ex wife and. And their kids into the Hampton home. He shares with Mary Cate now. Mary Kate loves the children. She even likes his ex wife. The ex wife, her name is Charlotte and she was at the wedding, so they all get along, but moving into the house for the pandemic is something. That was the final store. Our friends at page six are reporting this mark. Let me ask you. Would you want the ex husband of somebody that y'all with now? Would you up the moving that? Into your appalled. Robinson makes me so uncomfortable and I'm so happy. That Mary Kate is out of the situation season. Get is hey already got a time, but we do have we do have a moment. Even yes, we do. We do have time moment awful rob. You get a rob. You get a rob you. So we get it. We stole it from Oprah like to have oprah bow of the show. We call. Give you a car just yet with that successful. So instead you get be though there's a difference kindness starts with ABS exacting. That's what he does. Kindness starts with accepting yourself accepting yourself. It's the cornerstone of being kind because you've got to be kind to you before. Before, you can be kind to any body else. Market actually takes a lot of practice. Being kind to yourself is something that doesn't really come easily. You've got to try. You gotTA think about it. Marco you kind to you I'm kind to me when I eat a gallon of screw after a bad day. You Look you look incredible. Hey, listen, we love having you. You here with us, and also to check out US weekly's Hot Hollywood podcast I love it. That's it. We're out of time for this week. 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Introducing Naughty But Nice
"You're not going to believe what my top sources telling me about those Kardashians. I know what's really going on with Meghan and Harrier come on. WHO DOESN'T WANNA WANNA know why hasn't Jaylo an A. Rod set that marriage days By It's I'm Rob Sousa. I'm America's number one. Thank you very much gossip columnist. You may have seen me heard heard me chatting away on the today. Show the Talk Wendy William CNN. And even Z.. One hundred's Elvis Duran and the morning show. And now I I wanNA tell you about my new celebrity podcast. Naughty but nice with rob shooter. Hopefully it will be your go-to destination for the biggest news until your favorite Fritz celebrities. Every Monday through Thursday I'll be joined by some of my fellow gossip reporters reporters and maybe even a celebrity or to to serve up the freshest T- In an naughtiest but nicest signature away. We'll also have daily polls are team. Harry are you team William. We will break in some exclusive scoops. I even promised that I'll be answering all your questions tunes and highlighting naughtiest and nicest of the day so join me beginning Monday January twentieth. Listen and subscribe to Naughty but Nice with rob shooter. That's me on the iheartradio APP apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your favorite shows.
Esther: Push on Through!
"The following program is sponsored by the national prayer chapels. Ah st you when we still ooh choose the band <music> key <hes> repress <music> <music> stray <music> <music> aw so <music> eh the yeah <music>. You're welcome to pilgrim's progress. I'm pastor ray greenlee. I'm glad you've joined us today. I pray that this message will give great clarity to your pressing on in jesus what that means and where you're going again. The a story of esther is both a prophecy and a parable a prophecy that it tells us that god is moving ving behind the scenes in ways. We can't even begin to imagine he is establishing in time and space in history in the plan. He has for the redemption of his people for the protection of his people. If you're a follower of jesus christ priced god's hand is moving behind the scene to save you the circumstances may become very difficult call but in the midst of all of that god is moving on your behalf whether you know it or not edessa the name that esther was called before she became queen adopted by her wrongful mordechai. This family is very broken when she has swept swept up by the government taken to the palace and placed in the harem as a potential for the queen of the largest empire in the world zirk sees is the king she is appointed the beauty treatments. She is sent into zirk sees this wicked and wild man whom god has used. She is appointed queen clean. There's a great banquet and then heyman rises his ugly head. This is all being played out as god has ordained it. Esther would not have chosen to go to the palace us. She would not have chosen to become the queen but she was willing to surrender to the direction of her god and so she was lead in pass she did not know. Have you ever awakened in the early hours of the morning as i have many times and had a heart distraught concerned and you don't know how you're going to make it. You don't know how you can make it financially. You don't know how you can make you could emotionally through another day of attacks and bitter trials by the devil and as you lay okay in your bed and your mind fastens on these terrifying things in your heart you press through and you see jesus i trust you. It's a new day. I want your name to be honored by what i do and what i say in how act i don't know how i'm going to make but i'm trusting you jesus to carry me through because i can't carry myself. I'm totally dependent upon you jesus. I i know jesus has brought me time after time to that place to test and see ed wood is in my heart he did the same to the children of israel over and over. He tested them it over and over. He tried them to see what they would do. Hebrews bruce the third chapter verse seven so as the holy spirit says today. If you here is voice do not harden your hearts. I would change that. I would say this morning running in the early hours. If you hear his voice do not harden your heart he goes on as you did in the rebellion during the time the testing in the desert where your father's tested and tried me for forty years they saw what i did that is why was angry with that generation and i said their hearts are always going astray. They have not known my ways so i declared an oath and my anger they shall never enter my rest. See two brothers that none of you has a sinful unbelieving heart that turns away from the living god but encourage one another daily as long as it's called today so that none of you may be hardened by sin deceitfulness. We have come to share in christ. If we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had i as has just been said today. If you hear his voice do not harden your hearts did you did in the rebellion who were they who heard in rebelled were they not all that moses led out of egypt and with whom was the angry angry for forty years was it not with those who sinned whose bodies fell in the desert to whom did god swear that they would never enter his rest if not to those who disobeyed so we see that they were not able to enter because of their unbe leaf therefore since the promise of entering his rest still stands let us be careful that none of you be found to a fallen all and short of it for we also have had the gospel preach to us just as they did but the message they heard was of no value to them because because those who heard did not combine it with faith will today in this broadcast. We're going to talk about what what needs to be combined with faith. If you're going to enter into the rest of god the lord some time ago said to me the rest in me ray first time he had ever used my personal name when speaking to me rest in me ray i know that means i in the early hours of the morning when i waken and fear grips my heart and i say i don't know how i can move forward. I don't know here's this block and this block and this block and lord. There's no way i can make it through this now. The question is will i walk an unbelieving belief and fear or will i stand by faith and trust jesus. I choose to trust him and i press on and i pressed through the lord said to me this morning. Push on through push on through. I immediately turned once. It's more to the story of esther. I wasn't sure that i should share this with you today but i am very confident now. It is the word of the lord to us. You remember the story we've covered it in the past three broadcasts heyman and now i'm going to give you esther as a parable heyman represents darkness he represents the devil and he's determined he will kill all of god's people. The devil is determined. He's going to kill l. u. He is determined he will utterly destroy you. So what do we do. Queen esther goes before the king she is accepted and heyman is hanged now. It seems that everything should be fine. Line now came out of the way she can be happy as queen but her heart is concerned for her people the people people in sousa and the people across the whole realm who are jewish there is a decree that they are to be utterly destroyed so now queen esther decides that she must once more go before the the king and risk her life. We find the story in esther. The eighth chapter king xerxes axes gave queen esther the estate of heyman. The enemy of the jews and mordechai came into the presence of the king for estra told him he was related to her. The king took off his signet ring which he had reclaimed from heyman and and presented it to mordecai and esther appointed him over hayman's estate the whole estate the tons of silver and gold old the home the properties everything the king gave to esther and she appoints mordechai as the head of of that property in all of that money all of the businesses he takes them over now esther verse i three again pleaded with the king falling at his feet and weeping this time she goes before the king not timidly she goes before the king and falls on the ground in front of him with weeping and she begs him to put an end to the evil plan of heyman that still in fact the king extends the golden sceptre she rises she stands before him and she says if it pleases the king and if he regards me with favor and thinks it is the right thing to do if he is pleased with me. Let an order be written overruling the dispatches that heyman the agai i devised and wrote to destroy the jews in all the king's province and how can i bear to see disaster fall on my people how can bear to see the destruction of my family. King xerxes replies to queen esther and damore to k- the jew because heyman attack the jews. I have given his estate esther. They have hanged on the gallows now right another decree in the king's name and behalf of the jews as seems best to you and seal it with the king signet ring for no document written in the king's name and sealed with the ring can be he looked at once. All of the royal secretaries were summoned and they rode out all of more decay is orders i to the jews to the set traps the governors and the nobles of the one hundred and twenty seven provinces stretching from india to kush these orders were written in the script of each province in the language of each people mordechai road in the name of of kings irks season sealed the dispatches with the king signet ring sent them by mounted couriers who wrote fast horses specially bred for royalty the kings addict granted the jews in every city the right to assemble protect themselves to destroy kill and annihilate any armed force of any nationality or province that might attacked them and their women and children and it was carried out mordechai left the king's presence wearing being royal garments of blue and white haymond was never given these royal garments he had a large crown of gold and a purple robe of fine linen and the city of susa held a joyous celebration for the jews it was a time of happiness and joy and gladness and honor in every province there was feasting and celebrating and many of the people of other nationalities became jews because fear of the jews had seized them well now. The tables have been turned. The jews had the upper hand over those who hated them who threatened them. The jews assembled in their cities and no one could sand up against them because of the nobles of the provinces the satraps the governor's the kings administrators all helped the jews because fear of mordecai had seized them them mordechai was prominent in the palace his reputation spread throughout the provinces he became more and more powerful and the a juice struck down all their enemies with a sword killing and destroying them and they did what they pleased to those who hated them. Just in the citadel of sousa the jews killed and destroyed five hundred men they also killed in the suns that ten sons of amen and hung them now. The king said the queen esther the jews have killed five hundred men and the ten sons of haymond. What have they done in the rest of the provinces. What is your request. It will be granted to you. She says if it pleases the king give the jews and sousa permission to carry out their days addict tomorrow also and let hayman's ten sons be hanged on the gallows. That's a public shaming of of them. So the king gave the command the next day three eight hundred more men were executed by the sword by the jews in sousa. They had also killed seventy five thousand men throughout the realm throughout the kingdom. The then began again to celebrate and that's where the celebration of the param began to be celebrated by the jews even as it is every every year even to this day now king xerxes in all of his power and mike uh with the greatness of mordecai to which the king had raised him. They're all recorded in the books of the persia in media. Now i look at this story and i say why was she not content. Why was she not content to simply have her her life and the let it go. I want to be very very specific now about the parable. She was not content to stop halfway there. She pushed through all the way to victory. She did not take a middle ground. She gave heyman no no ground to destroy the jews she took full advantage of her right as the queen of this empire to push all all the way through so that there was no longer a threat against the jews. Everybody knew don't play with the queen. She is all all powerful with king xerxes and now mordechai is the ruling man in the realm next to the king and he is active as an administrator. Do do not threaten the jews or you will die in the same way we as christians now. I'm using that term because i wanna speak now to those men and women who have received jesus christ as their lord and savior and if i were to ask you are you a christian you would answer immediately. Yes i am but you have only taken the first step. You have never pushed on the second step where you have gained total victory victory. Someone wrote to me this last week and they said you're a false teacher and they quoted a passage of scripture to prove that i'm a false teacher. Let me read it for you. I john the first chapter verse eight. If we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves elves and the truth is not in us now this dear person not understanding biblical truth not understanding that you must read everything in context takes that as his statement to justify continuing to walk in sin before almighty god he is refusing and has been taught such by the sending christian heresy the nostra schism of our day. Hey taught by those such as better not name the names the most popular teachers on radio today they teach that if you sin all you'll lose are some rewards in heaven but you'll still go to heaven. You can't lose your salvation. They're lying to you. They would've told queen esther. Don't push through to the second level and clean out the devil. I want to say to you. The story of queen esther is a parable teaching us to push through to total victory and jesus jesus. I spoke with the dear brother yesterday. He said i'm following jesus but i'm not completely there yet now. Let me be very clear with you. If you say that. Don't begin into imagine that it's a question of christian growth. It's not there is a place. We are called to dwell. Oh where we have total victory over sin to where there is no longer any any residual sin in our systems in our hearts in our minds we are cleansed by the blood we are set free by jesus christ. Show you this in the scriptures. I want you to push through total victory and jesus. It is not again. It is not a matter of personal growth in jesus. You can't go to seminars and workshops and gained strategies to be successful in following jesus. This is the work of repentance. It is a work of grace. It is by faith alone in the blood of jesus. It is a work that he must do in us and for us. Our work is to repent and to invite him to come and do this work in us and he will do it. He will cleanse us of of all sin. The blood of jesus is not like the blood of bulls and goats in hebrews ten where the blood of bulls and goats this covers over our sin until we die. That's not what the blood of jesus does the blood of jesus cleanses and washes so that there is no longer any sin remaining now. Let's read the passages of scripture. Don't believe greenlee believed the word of god we'll go to several passages and then we'll go to what jesus said because he is atonement all oh how i love jesus his mercy and his grace his love their beyond my understanding never have oh. I've been loved. I've been loved by jesus. I find it beyond me to even talk about right but please go first john. I'm going to begin reading in verse five live. This is the message. This is first john one verse five. This is the message we've heard from him and declare to you. God is light in him. There is no darkness at all if we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in darkness we lie and do not live by the truth but if we walk in the light as he is in the light we have fellowship with one another and the blood of jesus uses his son purifies us from all sin from every sin purify refines us from all sin if we claim to be without sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. Why would he ad that. What's what's the issue. That's being dealt with here. The answer is no ostracism here. John refutes the nasty claim of senlis nece. The nas tick thought himself to be free from sin not because of the cleansing power of christ's blood but by the nature of the spirit nas ticks viewed all madder the human body as inherently evil. Only only what was pure spirit was senlis iranians the early church father says concerning the nas sticks it is impossible possible that spiritual substance should ever come under the power of corruption whatever the sort of actions in which they indulge for even as goldwyn submersible filth loses not on that account its beauty but retains its own native qualities the filth having no power to injure the gold so they affirm that they can not in any measure suffer hurt or lose their spiritual substance whatever the material actions in which they may be involved. This is the prevailing belief in the christian church today that a believer cannot be delivered from sin while he is in the body and that he can indulgence in without affecting his salvation so this nostril view of sin has mutated through the centuries to our time and a kind of nasty christianity is proclaimed by sending religionists instead of the gospel that we find in the scriptures now. Let's read more of i john i john i'll go back and read verse eight. Let's start with seven. I joan verse seven but if we keep walking in the light justice he himself is in the light. We have fellowship with one another and the blood of jesus sus christ. His son cleanses us from every conceivable sin. If we may say that we have no sin we deceive ourselves. Elves and the truth is not in us in other words if we say i don't need the blood of jesus. I'm fine just the way i am. He's saying we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us burst nine. If we may be in agreement with god with respect to your sins he is faithful and righteous so that he may remove the sins or forgive the sins. The word is from f._e._m._a. Adamy meaning to remove the sins with reference to us may cleanse us from every conceivable double unrighteousness if we may say that we have not sinned we represent him to be a liar and his word is not dinos now my little children i'm writing these things to you so that you may not sin even once once hereafter that you may not sin even once hereafter but if anyone in mason once hereafter we have an advocate with the father jesus christ a righteous one and he himself is atonement concerning our sins but not considering ours only but also concerning the world as a whole and and by this we have known him if we may continue to keep his commandments the one saying i have known him but is not continuing doing to keep his commandments. He is a liar and the truth is not in that person but whoever may keep his word truly in this person. The love of god has been perfected by this. We know that we are in him. The one claiming claiming to continue in him ought to walk himself so as to walk just as that one also walked talked so let's be very clear that was reading from the lavender translation. Let me read from the n._i._v. chapter two verse three. We know that we have come to know him. If we obey his commands the man who says i know him but does not do would he commands as a liar and the truth is not in him now. Let's be very clear. The demand of scripture is that we go. Oh all the way with jesus. The demand is that we finish and push through to the total victory. Now we may still be very mature and we may have to grow up in jesus and we can do that. Immaturity maturity is never a sin in the scriptures. The sin in scripture is when we deliberately go our own direction direction have our own agenda and do not submit to jesus christ salvation to be real must be salvation from sin any system of religion that does not break the power of sin is ally if it does not expel selfishness and lust for the things of the world if it does not generate love off for god and for man if it does not generate joy and peace it is a false religion and today. I fear that many of you have not gone on and finish this work. You have not killed the emlyn kites that still remain in your life that tempt you one man. I love him dearly. I have tried to minister him but he has absolutely refused to give up his large screen television and his living room is set up as a viewing theater and his love is to have his friends come over. Have some wine have a party and watch all men are evil on his large screen television and when i talk with him about giving up the things of the world he says oh i love jesus and saved no he's not he's utterly lost because until we have pushed through fully into jesus and dealt with that rebellion in our heart we may call ourselves christians but we have not entered into jesus. No sin can enter into jesus. No rebellion can enter into jesus. Nothing impure can enter into jesus. We are cleansed as we repent of our soon as we turn away from it we renounce it and we ask jesus to remove it from us. As far as the east is from the west and we are transformed. We don't grow out of it. We cut it off. We say unfinished with this sin. I will no longer walk in this sin. I am going to walk clean by the blood of jesus. I am going to walk clean now. In the story investor she was not content to simply rest in her queens ship and say i'll take care of sousa the the agents of heyman we're ready to murder and annihilate her family and so she pushes through to victory and many times as i've read the story ah esther i've i've felt a twinge inside of me and i've said whoa esther don't push this too far. Don't push this too far. You've come a long way baby. Don't push this but oh. I praise god. She pushed it all the way to the end. She is the parable that teaches us look. Don't allow any any known sin to dwell in your life. Cut it off. I fear that some of you especially you guys. Beautiful woman will walk by and you'll undress or in your mind lied you lust after her. Nobody knows you'll go home and turn on the pornography and you'll lust after her. That's fornication adultery or some. Some of you will live very easily. The lies will slip from your mouth without any second thoughts. Some of you will gossip gossip truly breaks people's hearts when someone calls someone and says i have some hot news and they share that and then that person calls another person and shares that and then that person begins to call everybody and share the hot news yes they have as though somehow this is making them important and they've shared their news never mind the one they're gossiping zipping about then begins to get the kickback. Did you know that so and so is saying this about you and suddenly relationships relationships come into grave danger. Trust has been broken. The pain of that person greatly multiplied. I know i've been gossiped about and breaks my heart and it breaks my confidence in people and i simply have to forgive them because that's what jesus said to do and remain vulnerable an open but it's still pierces my heart and makes my life more difficult even sometimes gossip. That's not true. Rumours will begin. Have you heard did you know pastor. Ray said this and the gossip begins to spread and a bitter root gross in people's hearts. That's that's not the way of god the way of the lord. Jesus is to guard one another to encourage one another to lift one another up not to gossip how do you how do you track down all the places that gossip win in destroying the reputation of brother or sister talking about them in ways that are negative and hostile. What do you gain by doing that. Does that make you somebody that you're on the inside and you know something and you want to share that with somebody else. That's gossip is wickedness. A gossip cannot enter the kingdom of god so so move you want to gossip about president trump. Oh you wanna talk about how bad mr trump is or how good good mr trump is gossiping instead of praying lifting up your heart to the lord gordon interceding for this man for his salvation that god will use him even as god used this wicked man's zirk sees god used him to protect the jewish people from the demons of heyman well if we could just learn that we are not to sin against each other and we're not to sin against god that were to be forgiving and kind and merciful and keep our mouths shut if i call you on the telephone and i say have you heard what mr trump has done now. Have i not sinned against the almighty. God instead instead of calling and saying brother. I've heard things that are very disturbing happening. Can we pray for our president. See i'm not coming to you as a republican or as a democrat commit you as a christian. This is not my home tom. I'm a sojourner here. I'm just passing through on the way to the heavenly kingdom. I don't wanna send against the president. I don't wanna sin against my family. I don't wanna sin against any brother or sister by gossiping about them. Some of you lust after money. You want more more more. You never have enough. You're angry. You fight with people about your your money. You want to try to get more. It's jesus who gives us the ability to gain wealth. Remember job the twelfth chapter that i shared yesterday the lord's in charge. Will you trust cost him those times. When i've awakened in the early hours the morning if i walk in despair and discouragement and hopelessness i am being tested by god and if i resort to feeling bad to being down to being depressed i have sinned against god. I'm walking and unbeliev. His called is to walk in belief and trust in the almighty god in every the area of my life. I am to trust him. My confidence is to be in him. No uh-huh. I'm gonna place right now where i don't know how i'm gonna make it through. I don't know the road before me is totally blocked up. I don't think i've ever had a time in my life when things look so utterly dark. I'm not discouraged. I know jesus has promised that he will if i will wait on him. He will deliver me. He will carry me all the way through. How am i going to make it jesus. How am we're going to pay for everything jesus. How am i going to have this and this that i need jesus. He said to me you heard the story. Will you receive from my hand. Only what i choose to give you what i said. Yes and he's been very kind to me. You can trust jesus. I don't care what the circumstances are today. Do not walk in grumbling. Do not walk in despair spare. Do not walk with gossip. All of these are other sinned before mighty god. He died to remove that sin from us now. Let me read what jesus has to say about this. You have heard that it was said i for ni- and tooth for tooth but but i tell you do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek turn the other and if someone wants to sue you and take take your tunic let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile go with him to miles. Give to the one who asks you do do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. This is the sermon on the mount. He continues verse forty eight. Be perfect therefore as your heavenly father be perfect. Lord's don't walk and send now he. He gets very specific about what he means. Let me read this to you. This chapter five do not think i've come verse seventeen to abolish the law or the prophets. I've not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. Jesus came and fulfilled the law. How did he fulfill it. He kept it perfectly. I cannot perfectly keep the law. It condemns me but i've been set free from the law of death and jesus christ by faith. I can perfectly keep the law because he keeps it in me now. Let me read i nineteen anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same we'll be called least in the kingdom move heaven but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven for i tell you unless your righteousness justness surpasses that of the pharisees and the teachers of the law you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven now. They were perfect in their outward observance now. Jesus wants to talk about our ways. Not our actions are ways listen. This is matthew the fifth chapter verse twenty one. You've heard that it was said to the the people long ago do not murder and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment but i tell you that anyone who who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment again anyone who says to his brother raka he's answerable to the san in hebron but anyone who says you fool will be in danger of the fire of hell. There are therefore i tell you if you're offering at the at the alter remember that your brother has something against you. Leave your gift there. In front of the altar i go and be reconciled now. Verse twenty seven do not commit adultery but i tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully lee has already committed adultery with her an art. If you're right eye causes you to sin. Gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell in other words. If you lust after a woman or a man and it's your way it's how you operate your not saved that thing has to be cut out and the only way it could be cut out is by the spirit of god by the blood of jesus coming and washing you and making you clean it has been said for thirty one anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. He goes on talk about divorce and remarriage. He's talking about the actual way of sin anger bitterness fornication adultery. These are all ways in our hearts. It's not outward actions inward life jesus is calling us to push all the way through to total a little victory to kill those amici fights that are holding us from jesus every part of your life life must be cleansed by the blood of jesus and when it is you will no longer walk in any known rebellion or sin against him and he will uncover everything if you ask him. It is a circumcision done by jesus in the heart of men. It is done done by faith in jesus in that heart. Circumcision is not accomplished. You cannot be saved. You can call yourself a christian but you cannot be saved today. I'm calling you to push all the way through to victory to get before the lord and deal with those issues. If i were to say say do you are you right with jesus. What would you say whatever it is that you would say. That's keeping you from jesus. It's an amici right pushed through. Get that thing killed in your life. Get cut off by the blood of jesus repent before him weep before him deal to the bottom with it and come out with peace and victory and joy because jesus love shoe and he died for you. You've been listening to pilgrim's progress. I'm ray greenlee. I'm so grateful you've listened. I hope this has been helpful to you. You can write to me at the national prayer chapel post office box twenty three forty six woodbridge virginia two two two one nine five and gloria especially. I wanna thank you. You've been so faithful in giving along with many others i thank you this broadcast is by faith in jesus. He's the one who must move in your heart that i can and stay on the air and i'm so grateful for the letters and the offerings to jesus please write to me national prayer the chapel post office box twenty three forty six woodbridge virginia two two one nine five good or webpage national per chapel chapel dot com. 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