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Japan's Vaccine Push Ahead of Olympics Looks to Be Too Late
"Japan's started a vaccine push ahead of the Olympics but he may be too little too late that's the realization sinking in the sopranos scrambles to catch up on a frustratingly slow vaccination drive less than two months before the Summer Games now the Japan of doctors union says the Olympics history coming in incubator for what they call a Tokyo variants as fifteen thousand foreign athletes and tens of thousands of officials sponsors and journalists from around two hundred countries descend on and potentially mixed with a largely unvaccinated Japanese population with infections in Tokyo and other heavily populated areas company at high levels experts have warned this little slack in the system I'm Charles de Ledesma
How Showrunner Dailyn Rodriguez Stays in High Demand
"Dalin rodriguez is considered a hollywood unicor. A latina who has risen through the ranks to become a television show runner. She has written for a lotta shows including the george lopez show and ugly betty and now queen of the south where she is also the executive producer. It was not straight shot to get there far from it and lynn is really honest about what it took to make that rise. The disappointment she experienced when project stalled out. And what it is like to finally be in high demand dylan your twitter bio says that you're born in washington heights but you call yourself a new york slash new jersey girl so as a new jersey. Cuban i need to know where new jersey so we moved to new jersey. When i was nine we moved around in bergen county so we moved to quebec park removed. Fort lee and then we settled in teaneck. And i went to high school in inglewood. I went to dwight englewood. I would go. It shuts off seig up in union city. Which is where all the humans me one. And then i would have graduated from dwight in two thousand and one. I'm a little bit older. You like to say that you grew up like meadow soprano going to private school in jersey while your dad ran in a legal underground gambling syndicate in the city. Is that writers flourish or is that what it was no. That's not writers. I know my dad was unbelievable. He's actually mentioned in tj anguish for called the corporation. It's all about the cuban mob and the entire bully from the eighties nineties. I grew up a really unconventional life was my dad. It just got too dangerous to be in washington heights. People kind of knew where we lived. My sister was almost kidnapped. I had a bodyguard for a while so we moved to new jersey. So that's that's true.
Michael Imperioli On Acting, Success, And The Buddhist Path
"Michael welcome to the wisdom dommage chats. Thanks for having me so great. To have you get i was gonna Start off. I thought i'd start off by asking you how you got into buddhism. I was wondering whether it was a full. You become well known as an act. Taro aso at what point in. How did you get involved in buddhism. it was definitely after around two thousand seven during a right when the sopranos was ending the same year But i i i. I discovered buddhism. Through the writing of jack kerouac when i was like nineteen years old And i bought at saint mark's bookshop which is no longer there. Unfortunately but i bought a copy of the diamond sutra which i could not make heads or tails out of i mean it was way beyond me and i did not understand but there was something about whatever how would ever care wack talked about or whatever my perception of buddhism was. There was something there like. I i appreciate it for some reason and i wasn't looking for anything religious at the time that copy of the diamond sutra. Believe it or not. It stayed with me all these years after. Like twenty different addresses and moves and stuff. I still have it In wrote that book the scripture of the golden eternity which is poems really but he had an incredibly deep understanding of dharma and was a big practitioner of it for a very long time. You know unfortunately the end of his life you know he he kinda succumb to alcoholism and and I think it it Pulled him away from the dharma and his studies and his practice. I think but there was a time when he was very much into a great understanding of it. So flat fast forward. Many years. So i was nineteen. This book kinda sat on my shelf for years
Betsy Parker And John Aprea, On 9 Marriages, Pilates, Love, And A lifelong Acting Career
"Welcome back to the skinny confidential him and her podcast. I'm lauren everett's bostick. The creator of the skinny confidential and across from me is my husband. Michael boston cloudy today. We have an episode. That's kind of fun because it's kind of like you're happy hour with all of our friends. We decided to invite my pilates teacher who has become a dear friend of mine in la betsy grassi and her significant other jonah. Praia on the show to give you a little context. Betsy is a top celebrity influence. Pilates instructor she honestly has all the moves. When it comes to plaudits she trained me. Throughout my whole entire pregnancy was aasa. I- waddled over to her from our house every single day. She trained me. And then i would waddell back home up until the day that i gave birth. I think i worked out with her the day. My water. I'm convinced that's why the delivery was so quick strong. Tell she's absolutely amazing. Check her out on instagram at parker pilates and then we also asked her to bring on her stallion of a husband to use a stone. John my man. You're a handsome sob. They're very good looking couple. That's the has got it hit. She's got the body. She's got the clothes and then john. Her significant other is an american actor and comedian. He's best known for his role in the godfather part two. He was also in sopranos. He's also uncle jesse's dad in full house and in fuller house which is so hot. 'cause how fucking hot as uncle jesse i mean. Listen i don't know jesse is hard. I can't i can't long you can't live up. There's some guys you come across and you're just like well like i get it. I mean uncle jesse. When i was little my eyeballs were popping out of my sockets. Can't blame you and you know what's even hotter as uncle. Jesse has a hot dad john. Warren it's all fiction that right. I mean the people are real but you know come down so right now you'll be okay so i think that this conversation's really fun. 'cause they're telling stories of their life but they're also peppering in pilates tips and we're talking about acting or talking about the olsen twins of marriages letting there's like nine between them right nine marriages between both of them and what i love and what attracted me to betsy. So much is that. When i went to her studio i walked in. I looked around the studio. It was so beautiful good energy and she was so open with her life and every single time i work out with her which is a lot she just tells it how it is and she's unapologetically herself and i appreciate that especially in the world we're in today and i think that this episode so fun because they are both so open with that. Let's welcome betsy grassi. And john prior to the skinny confidential him in her podcast. This is the skinny confidential. Imon her donga great hair. He so much Now we're sure i got. I got one thing going for me. Doubt that you have two things going on my hot and everybody says it but we like a modest guy yet craig. Cranston was saying that you got competition like what we even with western would mean. Hit chris saying that you are very hot gossip. You're listening break you. Chris addresses betsy and my friend. Okay so we have betsy parker who is my palabras teacher. She is the hottest pilates teacher in. La and we have counterpart john who is also so hot in his leather jacket. Johnson actor and they have been together for twenty years. Own omar more. How long twenty two the to a. I don't even know if i can make two. Let's say twenty. We broke up twice. Okay yeah removed very care during this interview but probably not as it happens all the time. Okay what little breakup gut but we wake up every night. Just about this struggle but may listens fun. I want to get some context of both of you guys. And so i. I wanna go all the way back. Because i've heard working out with betsy about your childhoods but i wanna start with your child so maybe betsy you start and then john you can tell us about your childhood sure to get really specific so so yeah i was born in waukegan illinois if anyone does it know that it. It's a little a little suburb with a big suburb of chicago. It's on lake michigan and it is a factory town. My parents were born in latin america. Their parents were immigrants were armenian by ethnicity but were very american. We never liked gut clannish. I don't know i. There's no other way to describe it but there were probably fifty armenian families back then. So yeah and though i have Four siblings so there were five of us and we are one year apart and there were three boys and two girls while madaba busy busy. Mom and dad really didn't like each other that much but they liked having sex. I think they ended up getting divorced after we were all raised. Twenty four years later bought three brothers. I learned how to be tough. I learned to be funny. I was a tomboy. I learned sports but i think i loved still loved being girly and fashion for shirt.
HBO's 'Insecure' will end after its upcoming fifth season
"This one is truly sad. News me as one of my favorite show season five will be last according to east array. She posted very except our and final season. We couldn't have told the complete story without the tremendous support of our audience and the faith of hbo see Soon hashtag insecure. Hbo that's about right though five seasons. That's a great run. Like the wireless. Five seasons sopranos was like five or six seasons like you. Sarah one bra is it. Oversee shouted could definitely do a movie just like sex in the city did when that came to an end. Maybe they'll do more at some point but she said it was always the plan to have. This story told through five seasons but we couldn't have made it this far without the tremendous support about audience. I guess from the beginning in new it would be five seasons. Listen i'm happy. Easter exists isa is a young icon. And i'm glad he's taking a glass. One would insecure. She won
Bryan Cranston on new TV drama "Your Honor"
"Bryan cranston. The star of amc's breaking bad returns to series television for the first time since that show left. The air in a new showtime miniseries called your honor which begins on sunday. Cranston plays a new orleans. Judge whose life is torn apart after his teenage son gets into some sudden and very serious trouble are tv critic. David be cooley. Has this review bryan. Cranston had played the goofy dad on the fox sitcom malcolm in the middle then. Redefined himself brilliantly as walter white. The meek high school chemistry teacher in breaking bad. What made walter break. Bad was the sudden news that he had contracted terminal cancer leading to a series of increasingly momentous decisions. In the new showtime miniseries. Your honor cranston returns to series tv playing another character who gets some sudden life changing news. This time he plays. Michael desio a compassionate judge in new orleans and a single parent raising his teenage son after the death of his wife a year ago in an unexpected tragedy. On the day of that saturday anniversary the sun adam played by hunter. Doohan experiences an unexpected tragedy of his own after leaving flowers at the convenience store where his mother was an innocent bystander. Shot by robbers has an asthma attack while driving away he searches for his inhaler on the passenger seat and as he takes his eyes off the road he slams into a motorcycle driven by another teenager. Adam after returning home tells his father what happened next. Where did this happen. Okay okay so would be the new hospital. Then the emeralds. Taken to what in new orleans and i don't know well the police must have sex. Overweight drove away before the tried to can give you called nine hundred time to try to at least yes or no please. I could breathe okay. I got you guys. This ten part series begins like the. Hbo mini series the night of following a young man. He descends deeper and deeper into a horrifying spiral of accidents and consequences that engrossing 2016 mini series was created by peter moffett who adapted it from his own british series. Moffitt is the adapter of your honor as well but this time he's not working from his own story showtimes. Your honor is his new version of a twenty seventeen. Israeli drama called ca- votto which has the same basic plot and is available of sample on youtube but for this adaptation for the united states. The location is changed in new orleans and other elements are given an american spin from police brutality. To local criminal activity one thing stays the same though. And it's thing that makes your honor so gripping from the start the father doing the right thing as both a judge and a citizen escorts his son to the police station to turn them in with an explanation but when he gets there he sees the father of the victim and recognizes him as a powerful local mob boss. All of a sudden the judge realizes that to turn his son in would be to signed his death warrant so from that point on. What is the right thing to do. And how many people does he have to enlist or deceive to do it. There's a certain flavor of breaking bad this because we're essentially put in the position of sympathizing with and rooting for a person who's breaking and avoiding the law but that's not a complaint because breaking bad may be the best tv drama series ever made and bryan cranston once again crafts a marvelously nuanced and empathic performance. And in your honor. He's not alone. The executive producers in addition to moffitt in cranston include robert and michelle king the talented creators of the good wife. So both the characters and the legal twists are fully drawn hundred. Doohan as the judge's son has the same relatable acting skills cranston and needs to since he carries most of the show's opening our and other riveting characters and actors abound michael stool barred from. Tv's fargo plays. The mob boss and hope davis plays his wife as very fierce and involved sort of carmela soprano to his tony and while margo martindale from justified in. The americans doesn't show up as the judges mother-in-law until episode four. Wow is she worth the wait. The writers on your honor include moffitt himself and the directors include clark johnson. An actor and director way back on homicide life on the street and edward. Berger who did a marvelous job directing another showtime miniseries patrick metros showtime provided only four of the ten episodes of your honoring advance. Each one. both impressed and surprised me and made me hungry to see the next cranston's michael ziada is smart enough to think on his feet and almost every scene requires him to do just that to avoid exposure endanger and to protect his only son whatever the repercussions to others the series title. Your honor isn't just the judge's work title. it's also at the center of the show. When it comes to your family would you do to save them. And what effect will that have upon your moral code your relationships with others and your honor
Making Art in the Modern Day
"In 1993 the group. The Breeders released this song Cannonball, and it started to climb the charts. The lead singer Kim deal was by that a pretty important person, alternative rock, not somebody who seems like they would later be featured in a book called The death of the artist. She's a big indie rock icon and has been for a good 30 years. Maybe more. William to Russell. It's is the author of the Death of the Artist in which he argues The arts world, which has always been hard to break into, and is always hard to squeeze a middle class living out of It's crumbling. As Kim deal has seen, you know she grew up in Dayton, and she lives back in Dayton. She's doing okay, she said to me, but again, fame does not equal wealth and she said to me, you know, I'm a coal miner, I'ma steal man. I'm just another person whose industry is gone. Obsolete. The perplexing part about that door is wit says, is that while Cole is not used in the same widespread way that it once was in America, we still listen to music quite a bit. And it's still produces a ton of money. But not much of that money goes into artist pockets. Instead, lots of it goes to the tech companies that bring you the music. These companies are too powerful. They can dictate terms, especially to independent artists and even tow labels and publishers because there's so much bigger and so much more powerful, and we need to do something about that power. We need to reduce that power. Then there is the notion that we can all record her own songs with tools on our Apple computer and People we can break through the noise. But sister Jesuits That's mostly a pipe dream, one that has gotten way too much traction like this is a profoundly irresponsible message to be disseminated, and it's been disseminated with all the marketing power of Silicon Valley. Still, he acknowledges that Tech has in some ways widened the playing field. It's increased access, even if that's no really consolation to those who Ping to turn art. Into a living. My argument is not that the Internet has been terrible for the arts. In every respect. I think it's been terrible for working artists financially. It's done a lot of good things, and one of the things that's done is that it has democratized creation, and I think it's great for a lot of people. I mean, I'm a big fan of amateur creativity and people making their music and people writing their books. But there's a big difference between that and serious. I'm gonna just say it's serious, talented, dedicated artists who make the stuff that the rest of us actually want to read and listen to. I mean, that's the issue, right is like, Think about it. First of all, think about how much time you spend in an average day consuming art, meaning every kind of art music and narrative television and books and everything. Probably several hours. And then think about how much of that art is created by amateurs who just put their stuff out there. Probably none. But in any case, maybe at best, very little. So God bless all the millions of people who want to do this and put their songs online. This is not the way to have a culture. And it's also not the way to have an arts economy. Are there break spots You mentioned television and ah, I for all people over the last 68 months, we're doing a lot more television watching. Not that we weren't doing plenty before. Are there places for screenwriters or things that that have bossom DH because of technology because of streaming services like Netflix, and I'II bet Amazon in the TV business and on and on Yeah, There's no question that television has blossomed, You know, not just in terms of the numbers of shows, but aesthetically artistically, right? I mean around 2000. We got the Sopranos, and there was a 1999 the same years Napster and then all these terrific shows on HBO and Showtime and L. Amazon and Netflix and Lulu. And it's great. I mean, TV is the one art that's that's confident. That's blossoming. As you said, Why is this happening? It's not because we can get TV on streaming versus our television sets. It's because we pay for it. We pay a lot for it. I mean, if you add up the money that goes to television in your cable bill, Amazon Prime Netflix, HBO Max ESPN, plus all the money that each of us is paying every month. That's flowing through the system, and that's why television is flourishing. That's why movie stars and movie directors and screenwriters have migrated from movies to television because that's where the artistic Opportunities are if somebody does the television what Napster and now Spotify have done to music that's going to disappear. Overnight. Okay, People are not going to you know, Nicole Kidman is not going to do a TV series for 10 bucks. And maybe that's when people will realize what's been happening across the arts. I wonder what you see ahead. I mean, obviously. You know, when you talked about this notion of sea and like the death of the artist that was even before, as we talked about like that arts in many ways, kind of shut down for several months. What is the way forward? I don't know that there's a good answer. But let me let me say this in the last few decades already something we now call the food movement has arisen where people have realised, you know, we're eating a lot of processed food, reading a lot of fast food. It's bad for us is bad for animals. It's bad for the planet. It's bad for the people who make the food for us. We need to consume in a more responsible way. So people have started to pay more for food, and we've Started to restructure the food system a little bit around the edges, then, more recently, the same thing with clothing. People call it fast fashion like like fast food, and we're trying to be more conscious consumers of you know, cheap clothing that's made in places like Vietnam and Bangladesh. I think we need the same kind of movement for art. Because now we have what I call fast Art. Because this stuff has to be produced fast if you're going to make enough To make a living. At the very least, you have to make a lot and it's produced cheaply and it's consumed in haste. Music, text, visual images moving images, everything. So Yeah, I do think that we need to become more conscious consumers and pay what we can but also like with food and fashion. Larger structural changes also need to be made and the more conscious we are as consumers and the more we are aware of. The need for these changes and demand them from our public officials. And again, That's especially going to mean taking on big attack, which we now have so many reasons to do this, I think has the potential to maybe turn things around.
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"That like you know Shit's going down things are happening. Yeah absolutely I mean there's a lot of stuff like that where you know the scene with all the oranges where Don corleones retired is like wandering around scaring his kids or grandkids sorry. I thought that was like a godfather three like I I had him all mixed up because it's so many iconic moments but the string of events and everything it'll get kinda mixed up in your head after so many years. So for me when I wash it and that was there as he said, something like as big as that but it happens early on the film, The godfather is just packed with like so much excellent stuff that I thought stuff that was in the godfather was in like two or three, and then other two and three obviously. But yeah, it is. It's amazing how that can just. Know it as a reference but you forget kind of the the the context of it. Yeah. And you know their dissertations on oranges in the Godfather and I mean, there's you have especially if we're talking about in the context of Sopranos, you know if there's that famous gangs, well, there's the eggs of course but when Tony gets almost killed in season one. When he sick like member he's like he's all sick and trippy, and then those those two black guys like roll up onto the stage at like a carjacking. Junior Sen guys to kill him and it's like famously the reason they have them buying orange juice because that's their a little nod to like when Vito get shop because like what the Orange is like spill out everywhere when those do those two guys roll up on him and of course, Prado's fumbling with his gun like a fool But then of course, just oranges are in other scenes as well like when he does, you know finally die or when I think they're sitting with not more green but the Jack Waltz, the Hollywood guy sitting at a table with him, there's oranges in the middle and then his horse poor horse gets the head cut off. which was another scene of course, parody everything especially the simpsons. Yeah good stuff and but I know you Kinda love hate that type of stuff in a way. Where you know when we get into the eggs on Sopranos or of course, now getting into the oranges on the Godfather. I know you kind of I think you respect it but you also hate it right? Well, I guess I realize that was the profile I was building for myself but you're right that that is how I come across. I mean in the Godfather again I just my thing I keep returning to is like it's so simple but perfectly executed I don't feel like that metaphor. As like to like when you say there's dissertations written on it. I'm like why it's obvious what it means yes you know because it's obvious but it's also not over like it's not overly in your face like it's not like them going metaphor look at the orange which it can come off at other times but other stuff like the eggs in the Sopranos I'm like..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"My guess would be that the types of people who would complain about the lack of a fault moralize about that sort of thing they might also be into it enough to realize that you know. Psychologically eight is like it's it's it's not great. You know much like in the Sopranos, it's not actually telling you to go on that going out and being a mobster is a good thing that will be good for you. Yes. In in the Godfather. My opinion on the trilogy without getting into details as like the first is a masterpiece the second one at extremely good film and then the third one is pretty good film. We don't need to words which about it but like I watched all three in a row, I had a whole godfather fest. I had like pizza and wine to finish off we had Bruce Shehata like it was a theme Jim and it was great. But to your point yeah I. I..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Here's my father came. He's been sick. It you're not lie Kim legal I thought you were going to become a man like your father. You told me. My father is no different than any other powerful man. Any man who's Responsible for other people. Like a senator president. Do you know how naive you sound art senators and presidents don't have men killed. WHO's being naive came Godhre welcome everyone to cut to black a soprano sit down. My name is Jim Scam holy and it's been about a decade since I've re watched the Godfather. My Name's Jacob burroughs and it's been about a decade since I re watched the Godfather as well and we have now done it add our minds collectively I think are blown. Maybe that's just me I don't know Jim is that are we in agreement in mind blown now? I'm absolutely in agreement I know it's it's such an obvious thing to say though too like wow the godfather whatever you know that's been a me because we rewrote it for no particular reason other than wanted to check in with our pals at. The black feed. Let you know what's up. Let you know we're still alive. Haven't gotten hit out yet. But. Yeah. No. What do you re watched the Godfather for no reason you just start talking to everyone like, wow, like it's so good. Though was like, yeah, you fucking idiot. 'cause I mean you know we? We wanted to check back in on the feed here Sopranos has been all the rage like Sopranos. I mean I guess Cova did something really well for the Sopranos and not at the spas ever went away but it feels like it's everywhere now maybe it's just because we've done a show and re watched it not too long ago But yeah, you gotta go back to the classics. You gotta go back to one of the one of the Oh Jeez the godfather and I guess I don't know if it's my maturity. Or just you know being in this mindset coming off of the Sopranos and stuff like that because it's not like I ever thought godfather was bad but.
2020 People's Choice Awards nominees list
"Welcome back to Daly Pop. Let's give huge of applause to Jennifer. Lopez. She is receiving the People's icon award at the twenty twenty e people's choice awards I mean does anybody deserve more than J. Lo Soprano. Did it ten years ago The nominations dropped a short time ago. So let's check out some of the top competitions. Take a look at the female artist of twenty, twenty their. Good names on this list really eyelash took the title last year. Do you think she's going to win it again or is it someone else in you Lebron? Liba, just because I like every song and that's rare. And I think album came at the right time. We were all depressed even banana bread and wondering if that murder Hornets are gonNA come through. Yeah. Super me. She will win this. Me She gets. With Taylor swift she dropped. Carpet again, this summer and it was huge and I think there's a really good. These are going to come through. Opinion you still with. All right. Next up, we have the female TV star twenty twenty. Nominees. Who Do you think's GonNa. Win this one. Well, with Christina applegate I thought that debt to me was so good I love that show we missed her on television and you know she's making a big comeback this year I think this is a good year for her. Was Sandra. Oh, just. Good for you I think you forget that people need stability right now and yes that to me was bombed but he came in it went mariscal. There are so many law and order Svu reruns and marathons right now. To see her again and relive all like the crazy haircut I gotta say she's such a talented actress every time I watched that show on my damn bomb her. Let's talk about the social celebrity of twenty. This is based on their social media accounts alone a lot of good nominees I actually went with Bieber here. He over quarantine remember going live with Haley and they were doing like inside looks at their house and he's been a lot more active on social lately and he's been I. Don't know he's just been more open just this be beepers year I'm GonNa go with the jeans because he's of pivoted his social media account for social justice and I think a lot of times athletes do that because they try to protect the bag. So for me, my star is the person who used his social media for good and that's ads. That's a good way. To classic I went with Kylie because I mean she's really an effortless thing for her and she basically shuts it down every single day by not doing a whole lot the you know the photos are very easygoing but She just kills it that girl. So I went with her
"Parents are naturally worried for their children and it doesn't seem to take much to send them into a tizzy. and. It's not just parents. We as people are pretty prone to overreacting to the first piece of information we receive. Modern media makes the spreading of these new urban legends basically effortless. But false panics and hoaxes are far from a new invention. Always. been with us. Most people know the story surrounding Orson Welles radio play the war of the worlds by H. G. Wells. No relation it was presented in the form of a newscast detailing the invasion of earth by beings from another world clearly bent on our destruction. Listeners thought the broadcast was real. There was mayhem in the streets as as many as a million people fled their homes or armed themselves and made ready to fight off the alien hordes. We know all about the panic that this radio play cost it was in all the papers. Therein lies the problem. Newspapers of the day greatly exaggerated the situation. To begin with not that many people were tuned in to the Mercury Theatre on the air that evening only two percent of households with radios even heard the play. which repeatedly identified itself as such during the performance. Some CBS radio affiliates even cut away from the broadcast in favor of local programming further shrinking the potential audience. Most people were listening instead to the ratings, Juggernaut, ventriloquist at Gergen. I still fail to understand how a ventriloquist act really worked on the radio. If it makes you happy. So. Why then if so few people. and. Fewer still were confused by it did newspapers separately and independently make the situation sound much worse than it was. They were motivated by fear not of aliens but of the radio. The wireless radio was the first real threat to the superiority of the newspaper as the public's primary source of information. Reporters and editors saw this as an opportunity to prove to advertisers and regulators that radio was dangerous irresponsible and not to be trusted. A similar thing happened in. England. Twelve years earlier with a fictitious report that an angry mob of unemployed workers were running amok in London looting and destroying everything in sight. The National Gallery had been ransacked the Savoy hotel blown up. The houses of parliament were being attacked with trench mortars and the Big Ben. Clock, tower had been raised to the ground. Like any good radio play? The narration was accompanied by sound effects. Of Fear Few people did take to the streets, even fleeing past the famous buildings that had been reportedly destroyed while others desperately clogged police phone lines. The BBC tried to ease tensions by reminding people that the report was a comedy skit entitled broadcasting in the barricades. anding their message with London is safe Big Ben is still chiming and all his well. You can't trust the BBC at least we can still rely on armed forces, radio. People fought until nineteen, forty seven. When in May W v TR in Tokyo began to issue a series of bulletins about a twenty foot high monster that had risen from the sea to lay waste to the area. Bullets were useless against this dragon like creature listeners could hear terrified shrieks, people shouting orders over bullhorns, heavy weapons and Massu vehicles rolling by. When the beast reached downtown and the intrepid reporter who provided the play by play snuck closer, the monster opened its mouth. And congratulated T.. R. On its fifth anniversary in a high soprano voice. That's right an hour's worth of breaking news to pat themselves on the back. During the broadcast police phone lines were tied up with people trying to get information.
NBC's free streaming service Peacock hopes to cut through subscription fatigue
"Kim Masters and this is the Hollywood breakdown joining me as Matt Melanie and Matt Peacock, which is the streaming offering from NBC? Universal and comcast is coming online next week. You know people made fun of Peacock in the industry. People were like Oh. Peacock is so late and peacock is so behind, and peacock is going to be free and Haha that's funny and I have to. To I'M GONNA treat myself not for one minute that I think that was funny. I thought that is sensible logical, and it will be a standout in this crowded field, and I kind of feel like I'm right now a lot of people. I think also were thinking that I was right. We'll see, but there is definitely what what comcast calls subscription, fatigue and I agree. Agree there is a feeling in the consumer world that there's all these subscription television services that are pitching themselves as Netflix's alternatives or or Netflix's for X., or you know you gotta get this upgrade to HBO and get HBO. Max and they all cost money. And if you look at the advertising associated with peacock there hammering home, the fact that this is free, if you. You want a free alternative to those other guys. This is for you and there's some pretty good stuff. I mean there's thirty rock. There's law and order. There's movies from NBC Universal You. Know they've got decent stuff on there. And they're looking for that casual TV viewer, who is migrating away from the cable universe, cutting the cord and looking for something they can kind of. And they don't necessarily need the latest greatest game of thrones that that. The premium subscribers looking for I wouldn't use game of thrones, because that they would need but other things they don't necessarily need, and they don't want to find it and I know people in the industry. For example, it still haven't figured out how to get HBO Max and it all just feels confusing, and and they can't deal with it and so this thing that being free and And the casual viewer that's definitely does appeal to me. You know if I had a long day. I WanNa, Watch something short easy, familiar and free, but you can also pay if if you don't have comcast us as your cable provider, or if you don't have a an access to it that way, you can pay five dollars a month and if you wanted to be ad, free? Free you can pay ten dollars a month and I will note that both of those prices are cheaper than an HBO subscription. So that is an option that I. Think is the people will want to look at meanwhile. Disney plus dropped Hamilton. They've needed something. They haven't had anything that really appeals to older people, or you know not not little kids for a long time they had a huge jump in people downloading their APP over that Hamilton weekend. Whether Hamilton really helps Disney right now remains to be seen, but I think the buzz around. It can't hurt no definitely not, and that's why they moved up the theatrical release, which was not supposed to be till twenty twenty one and put it on the service over the July fourth weekend they. They need a positive narrative right now Disney. Because this next earnings, call is going to be brutal. They have zero revenue from the theme. Parks Pin is just in free fall without sports. They have no movies in theaters because there aren't any theatres they need something. And now they have these Hamilton numbers that they'll be able to reveal and I've seen a lot of people speculating about. About. How Big Hamilton is going to be on Disney pleasant? How many people are just going to subscribe for that? I think those numbers are going to be big but I think there are a little bit skewed in the discussion by the fact, that Hamilton is a media phenomenon and everybody on social media in the media world to talk about it. Ad Nauseam so I'm not sure. Sure exactly how big it's going to be. I think you may disagree with me a little bit on that I just feel like you know reminds me of Hbo had things like the Sopranos and everybody was talking about it and you say well. It's in a bubble, and it's the media, elites, or whatever, but the truth is that seeps out in gives the gives the product A. A bit of a sheen a feeling that you kind of made me want to be a part of that and want to watch what they have. The the issue is coming. Follow it up with anything and I don't know we'll see. Thank you matt. Thank
HBO Max: we checked it out
"To in the past. It's not give us fifteen bucks. You'll get a whole new world of programming instead it's keep subscribing to the HBO now Streaming Service because we just gave it a face lift and made it a whole lot better. I'm Jefferson Graham. This is talking tech. Let me fill you in Max's. Hbo Plus Movies TV series and cartoons from the Warner Brothers Library. Classic Hollywood and Foreign Films From The T. C. M. Film Library original animation and more now. Hbo Now just got a whole lot better. And for me since I was already subscribing. I have more of a reason to keep it. I like the programming selection. You may like it too if you have an apple TV or google chrome cast streaming device in the house but if you're like most people and get your streaming the a Roku or Amazon fire TV streaming player while you're out of luck for now. At and T. Which owns Warner media? Didn't make a deal with either. So it's either fork over thirty five dollars for chrome cast a hundred and fifty dollars for the Apple. Tv device or watch. Max on one of the newer Sony or Samsung. Tv's here's what you're gonNA find. Hbo IS PROMOTING. Heavily the complete collection of friends and the Big Bang theory at the top of the front. Page the Harry Potter films and others from the Warner Brothers Library including man and wonder woman Max is broken up into several hubs. This includes looney tunes cartoons. Adult swim in the cartoon network. Hbo MTC 'em some hubs are better than others. T is fully featured with classics Galore. Like the wizard of Oz gone with the wind and I really love this. The Complete Charlie Chaplin Film Collection Cartoon Network has just a handful of series like the power puff girls and dexterous laboratory. But it's missing some key titles like Johnny Bravo and courage the cowardly dog unlike the recent Disney plus launch which had hundreds of vintage animation from the bolt along with four current titles. Max has many of the best of bugs bunny porky pig and gang including a duck amuck corny concerto in gorilla my dreams but a big emission at least on the first day is the greatest looney tunes cartoon ever made. What's Opera Doc the? Hbo Hub is basically HBO now with. Yes. Every episode of Game of thrones the Sopranos Kirby enthusiasm plus more. But if you're looking for something outside of those hubs navigation is tough for instance. Max promised classics from the Hanna Barbera Library like the Flintstones and the jetsons an episode of Conan from the TBS Library
AT&T CEO John Stankey on the launch of the HBO Max streaming service
"Joe Kernan. Kicking things off with John. Thank you this morning on Squawk box. John Thanks for coming on today. It's great great to have you with us you me on. I know you have high hopes for. Hbo We all know HBO. Obviously it's synonymous with some of the greatest things ever on video. Obviously game of Thrones Sopranos etc. You WanNa take on Netflix. And I understand. I think that's interesting because I don't know whether it's true or not. But supposedly someone said maybe we should have some kind of alliance with Netflix's someone suggested that you and you said we want to crush Netflix's Adams John you want to replace net flicks or at least be a very potent competitor refrains US Navy. Some on what I would call not accurate reporting on the New York Times Are hellacious is going to multiple streaming services knowing forward in pretty consistent. I think if you look back over the last year of domain around my conversation that our goal frankly is not to be. Netflix's our goal is to be something different and there are other senior services are starting to show up on the market that clearly different ease for the customer. Hbo Mass is going to have a unique focus in a unique position with the customer in play our game. Our goal is at crush flights. Our goal is to make sure that we meet customer needs engaged every day household. Find something worthwhile in time with us. And that's what we're GONNA see foes I guess they didn't so that was in the New York Times but that was that was not accurate according to so that. That's not a quote from you that that's interesting Anyway but I I guess the reason I led with that John is that I think about net flicks and everything. That's there and from documentaries to movies to programming that they generate themselves. That is a big universe of things that they have how will HBO? Max and I just said you're not going to strive to be everything to all people but you probably do need to add some things to the offering to make it so attractive that people have it in addition to the other streaming services absolutely a clearly customer Nanna. What's current as from kind of traditional media through the pay TV bundle and general entertainment content coming into the streaming world has credible number of choices of what to do with their time and then he going all dynamics in the digital environment about France capabilities to good use generating content? Like there's no question. There's more choice after today than there ever has been in paradise choices. Feel Max Niece resolve needs on the customers. Says you know I'm looking for something? That is this particular need of where I stand right now at my mood or my family situation that it's the first thing you think about that. I can go and no one wanted to find something. That's curious down. Who in meaningful selection of high-quality is Gonna? Hit the mark for me in the consistency. That happening time and time again clearly. The a hallmark more for the bran and for the service. And that's what we believe where you will focus on a more carried. Orderly got such a talented team. It warned me be do dat curate in that fashion just doing it for the demo outstanding the entire family. And you point out that that it's it's not much difference in price from what people are paying for now with with. Hbo So you have done some surveys. And what you saw one out of five people might decide not not to go with with Max. But it's not not much of a difference between just converting what they have now into HBO. Max Oh you don't you. Don't see any churn in that respect a difference were selling at that price day with just the HBO product which is a product that has half as much content is what HBO. Max New Offering Margaret. So you twice content same price and I think if we're seeing all of us everybody who's in the streaming business utility matter fact increasing during these unfortunate moments going through right now at this pandemic that's increasing dramatically so the performance of house value arrive actually increasing as a result. So you know our job is to make sure. The customer finds the equation to be done that for over thirty million customers with a long period of time in our goal is to extend that out beyond the family. I think we've got a really strong probability Andrew John. It's great to see you this morning. And congratulations and good luck on the on. This launched the question. I have two questions. The biggest I think is a distribution question. Which is and. Maybe you can explain what's happened with the likes of comcast parent company of this network. Amazon and Roku which a stoically with been strong distribution partners for the HBO product but are not on board at least from what I understand at the moment with HBO. Max and what that does to your reach a Bra List and distributors who are working with us the traditional and the market is the pay TV. Marcus actually signed on going to carry four. They're going to be successful years with. Hp Amax just like they were HBO along the providers doing that. Frankly you mentioned your parent company I'm optimistic still opportunity for something to be on there. I suspect that there's an opportunity that need other pay. Tv providers are given the vast majority. The ECO system is a likely become interview just useful. Come her moving forward. I think the interesting dynamic you're alluding to is Roma who Amazon at this point elected mocked distributors. I got and I didn't expect first of all have distribution across the entire race. I think must be doing something rightist. Somebody believes now to be more in conflict with your business so I don't necessarily take a bad sign but I do find it a bit ironic when I think banning litigation heard prior to the Time Warner eighteen transaction closing the concern was about withholding content from traditional distributors. And what we have now. We actually have dynamic where we have. New Technology viewers individual H. Who are likely not student and I think that dynamic is an important one understanding shows fast. The market's moving how we got to respond to those changes. I just to follow up with one other question which relates to this which is speak to the marketing challenge which. I think there may be one in terms of getting people to download the APP because some of these cable operators aren't going to necessarily be carrying it as an on demand on the box if you will so so what has to happen given that you do have these multiple brands and getting people to understand that they need to actually go get this. Get this particular product. It's a good question this
NYPD Cop Plotted Murder-for-Hire
"Valerie Cincinnati paid her boyfriend. Seven thousand dollars to hire a hit man and kill his teenage daughter and her husband but she had no choice. What was she supposed to do? Try and take them out herself. She was in New York City. Police officer that's a good way to get yourself fired or at least on desk duty but that was twenty nineteen and she's had to change apart since then after folding prison laundry for a year last month she really really tried to be released on bail using the corona virus as an excuse to get back in front of a judge because too but the judge had good reason to roll his eyes and refuse in the words of the. Us Attorney in Brooklyn. The evidence in this case is overwhelming. Hey I'm amy and every Sunday Wednesday. Were here recapping. The story behind a true crime headline so. Let's get to it Valerie. Cincinnati paid her boyfriend seven thousand dollars to hire a Hitman and kill his teenage daughter and her husband. Did you get that because I had to read it a few times before? I believe what I was saying. She paid her boyfriend to have her ex husband killed because she was deep into a custody dispute with him over their son and she wanted him dead so she didn't have to share her. Nypd pension or her son with him and she was paying her boyfriend to have her boyfriend zone. Fifteen year old daughter killed because she was getting in the way. What offering to pay for your boyfriend to have his own daughter killed. Seems like a real dating. Don't but apparently Valerie thought he'd be into the idea. He was not because after she outlined the plant he right away immediately told the feds started wearing a wire when he was with her allegedly because her trial hasn't started yet but allegedly her boyfriend. John Rubel took Valerie seven grand and used it to buy five ounces of gold coins to pay the Hitman gold coins. Remember the days when you could just hand hitman cash and they do the job now you got to exchange the money for magic beans and give them those. It's just it's so complicated but Valerie says she was just giving John the money to buy gold coins. What's the problem? But let's just say that the cops the better the other cops that they're right and Valerie was using those gold coins to buy a couple of murders which did not happen by the way everyone save except Valerie. She should drop the soap in the shower anytime soon but she was trying to hire a contractor to kill. These people does not sound like she was very easy to work for according to court documents when she was told the Hitman was at her ex-husband's office in Long Island said he should be killed in the hood or the ghetto instead so it would not look suspicious and when she learned. This hitman didn't WanNA murder teenage daughter near her school. She said runner the F over. How about that K- and then when a few weeks went by and her husband and this poor teenage girl weren't dead. She asked the obvious question. Why was this whole murder-for-hire thing taking so long but then cheap further micromanage the process by telling her boyfriend to have the Hitman kill the girl his daughter over the weekend and then wait a week or a month to kill her husband so it wouldn't look suspicious and she should know because she's a police officer a police officer at this point law enforcement had had enough and they decided to give her what she wanted? A dead husband stood in my car glass on the floor and all over me and had me hunch over into the peasants and it's a picture that was that like Earth craziest experience. Yeah after she saw the pictures and the police told her he was dead. Her boyfriend recorded her discussing what her fake alibi could be if she was questioned about it. If these allegations proved to be true in the yearbook this girl would definitely be voted most likely to be arrested for being dirty cop kind of a not so smart super dirty cop at that among other damning Internet searches. She Google the phrase. If your ex dies do you have to share your whole pension? She might as well been googling. Dump things criminals due to get themselves convicted. She was a twelve year veteran of the NYPD. Working as a domestic violence officer in Queens. And that's where she met her boyfriend John Baruba in two thousand seventeen while she was working case. He's been called her sugar daddy in the press. Now he was fifty four. She was thirty four at the time and he paid her and Bill. So yeah yeah that tracks but then he got her suspended when he reported to internal affairs that she was hanging out at his house when she was supposed to be on duty protecting serving but then they got back together. Their relationship is not surprisingly described as volatile. Of course Jon is an exactly choirboy either. He allegedly threatened to shoot a guy over fifty four thousand dollar diamond ring in January twenty nineteen and was bragging about supposed ties he had to the Gambino Crime Family. He was also very proud of his friendships. With a couple of the actors who played mobster on the Sopranos so for Guy who seemed to be such a mobster wannabe. How ironic is it? That the first thing he did was drop a dime on his girlfriend. Of course if you ask Valerie's family they believe it was John who set the whole thing up to framer and speaking of her family at the time. She was arrested. Her brother was an FBI agent two months after she was arrested he committed suicide but again she insists she's innocent. Prosecutors say Valerie did her best to try and get rid of the evidence they believe. She destroyed to cell phones and deleted texts. But even without those phones. It's pretty hard to argue with wire. Tape recordings isn't it does not look great for you girl. Her trial was supposed to start on April twentieth. But it's been postponed while her legal team. Sifts through thousands of pages of text and calls between her her boyfriend and her ex-husband if she's convicted. She faces ten years for each of the two attempted murder for hire accounts and twenty years for obstruction of justice. I have a feeling this is going to be it for
Warner Bros. delays many releases including 'The Batman'
"The new corona virus outbreak has forced Hollywood to juggle its line up again Coover nineteen is already laid waste to the nation's summer movie schedule now the delays are seeping into fall and winter one of brothers says a film based on the sopranos is being pushed back it was due out in September but now won't hit theaters until March of next year the newest Batman movie won't take means until next fall it was due out in June of next year now slated for October twenty twenty one also be a mothballed for now the Will Smith drama King Richard it has been pushed back a full year from this November until next studios have been shuffling release dates because of the corona virus both because theaters have been closed and the outbreak has stymied production
Warner Bros. delays many releases including 'The Batman'
"The new corona virus outbreak has forced Hollywood to juggle its line up again cove in nineteen is already laid waste to the nation's summer movie schedule now the delays are seeping into fall and winter one of brothers says a film based on the sopranos is being pushed back it was due out in September but now won't hit theaters until March of next year the newest Batman movie won't take means until next fall it was due out in June of next year now slated for October twenty twenty one also be a mothballed for now the Will Smith drama King Richard it has been pushed back a full year from this November until next studios have been shuffling release dates because of the corona virus both because theaters have been closed and the outbreak has stymied production I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Warner Bros. delays many releases including 'The Batman'
"Hoover nineteen is already laid waste to the nation's summer movie schedule now the delays are seeping into fall and winter one of brothers says a film based on the sopranos is being pushed back it was due out in September but now won't hit theaters until March of next year also being mothballed for now the Will Smith drama King Richard it has been pushed back a full year from this November until next studios have been shuffling release dates because of the corona virus both because theaters have been closed and the outbreak has stymied production I'm Oscar wells Gabriel
Ratana Stephens, CEO of Natures Path: When it comes to business and people, I'm a lioness
"You've been called that heart and soul of. Nature's Pat when you hear that. What does that mean when you think about how you era what is the heart and soul on when you go through difficulties then you see other people going through difficulty you have empathy. You feel for them because you yourself have gone through so my grandmother's very empathetic. And since I was brought up by her he was always there when people needed her in happiness and in sorrow I learned a lot from her and I to. What was the decision like to move to Canada in life? Then you surrender snowed decision. I've fell in love. I love my husband still after fifty years. That's a big feet congrats. A lot of people can't say that right now in close quarters. Oh yes we do. Have Disagreements on misunderstand me we definitely do but after you know discussing after getting a little bit annoyed become to conclusion that what we are talking maybe a different ways different aspects but became to the same conclusion rb agree based dom in the pros and cons and sit tolerance. You have to tolerate an accept. The percents find view. An that's what we have done and I'm grateful that has lasted that long and I think he's going to last longer one of the things that we were reading about with you. Is that as you sort of? Found Yourself as an entrepreneur. You also were trying to raise a young family and young children and WanNa talk a little bit about how you achieved any semblance of balance and I use the word balance kind of in quotes because I think we talk a lot about on the show that that's kind of a myth when people talk about work life balance but walk us through what those early days were like You know running a restaurant and having a young family you know. Tv Ago. When I was giving influential woman of in Business Award Kuenssberg there. My husband was there and of course. I thanked them and what I said. Your mother was always there. Bundy needed her but she was not there when you wanted her when they needed me when I felt it's very important for them to have me near them emotionally intellectually Charles there. If our daughters. She is a lyric soprano. Most of the time I took her to the lessons I take out some little time to take her to school. If they're teachers wanted talk to me to something I was Elvis there. So it's very hard when you're in business and when you have a beautiful young family is hard but you make sure in the time of needs dear family comes first when you and your husband eventually decided to continue following this entrepreneurial side of both of you and built nature's path. Did you talk about like this is how we're going to divide and conquer? This is what you're good at this good at talk to us a little bit about how that works. Aaron is in a leader. He is very good in marketing. And I felt I connect with people more so than he does because US artists is entrepreneur is in a waiter as more soul in marketing. So what I did. After livestream was sold I took securities course just to find out how this finances work on how you also cheap. And he supported me for three months. I Wa ause an investment banker or you call it stockbroker and after that. I told my manager. I said I'm sorry I can't work. He said why you could have meant you know how they talk about. Meeting held off a great broker. I said you know you're right but my family and my marriage is very important. Yes I learned finances. I love people and I learned how to work with people were producing so operation also came under my wings finance out so came. Hr only thing that we shared together. What sales who did you guys go to for advice when I think back on the health space you know thinking about the seventies even the nineties it's just boomed in the past few decades there? I'm assuming wasn't the same type of information or resources or networks when you guys were starting out were there people. That were mentors. When you couldn't figure something out. Who did you go to? You know my husband used say breadth nigh uncommon common sense. I didn't understand that before Moore I could find. With whom Sir was willing to give me advice. I would listen. Use my common sense and go forward. Why do you think he called it? Uncommon Common Sense. I know because probably he felt that I I have common sense which he has not found another. I WANNA stop at this first second and talk about it because what you're talking about is something that Dan Yan. I can relate to a lot which is very much when we talk about our own story and talk about going up and asking like very simple questions. And if you don't understand something you figure it out you ask the people who can help you figure it out. I think there's a lot of reasons why people don't necessarily do that but would away you talked about your story. It's almost so simple. So I'm laughing at how your husband phrased it because I think it's such a spot on description for those that are listening. That are thinking about being an entrepreneur themselves. What is your advice about? How to tap into the uncommon common sense? You know one thing. I also forgot to tell you that I read books. I love biographies whether business biography. Whether biography of well known politicians are well known saints. Demean the inspire. You you feel that what they have gone through and how they have come out of it. Are these lessons for you and for me for everybody because no life is obvious straight whether in politics weather and business weather in any spheres you know in Hinduism and Judaism Islam Christianity. We see the inspiring. Bahir read the inspiring stories. Some of them. Most of them are wonderful. So yes I think. I give uncommon common sense. I give credit to the family the society and to the woman who brought me up.
The Wisdom of Solitude: Lessons from the Lives of the Prophets
"We look at the lives of the prophets to see what we can learn from something. We're supposed to do all the time. Anyway I something that lesson hunting with the other. He wants us to do. That's why he sa- panel with the honor. His put their stories in on We have more detail about them in the highly. And so I wanted to begin by looking at the life of a Ubani Saddam when he says what are you ignore? The Obama who anemia sunny. A little while under Rohani And mentioned a you when he cool to his Lord Indeed. Adversity has touched me. And you are the most messy full Over the muscle said you by the Senate on this Great Prophet of Los Apparently Data. Who many of us have heard of many people love it? They love him so much that they named their children off to the U. Many many a UBIQUONOL massage school. It's families what was so great about this prophet. And what lessons can we take from his life now in in the Times that we're in this situation of where without tells us here in the NBA? He called on a loss of Hanoi Thailand and mentioned a you when he called his Lord. Indeed adversity has touched me. So you buddy. Saddam he says to us about Sapan Donna in Nima Sunny Doda. That has afflicted me something by this happened to me. Then also handle the data in the next Jeopardize the Hoof Akasha abby he indoor The Dallas so we responded to him and removed what afflicted him of adversity will add a now. Who who Miss American or Indiana where they could only live and we gave him back his family and the like there with them as mercy from us and a reminder for the worship of a law so you about this profitable east from the most beloved of creation to Those special human beings that were chosen by a lesson with due to the cleanliness of their hall due to day connection the commitment to a lesson and this great prophet. He's then tested. He's given test that. He can be Shaab that he can take because without a dozen tests. Us doesn't afflicts us with anything that we can't handle you live alone of sin in there was he had a wife. He had children. He added family. He had well he had looks. He had all these things he had a place in society and loss of handle what he tested Ubani Saga by afflicting him with a disease within a an ailment and this caused him to become repulsive to the people he's his skin was was covered in these In this disease and people when they saw him they were repulsed by his life. They didn't want to go near. And so for being this person who was wealthy family Mixed and went about his business went about society about with people as he as we do. He went from that to being somebody who no one wanted to be around. Nobody wants you to see. And he became almost completely cut off. He had His wife who remained him. And there's a evidence from That they were a couple of other people but apart from that you belie Salaam has lost that position that he had amongst you know. Just going about people mixing with them talking to them socializing with that He loses his family and he loses his wealth and of course he's lost his health. Now he doesn't in this area also says you will listen. He says to almost a Muslim. Hi Donna way you if neither a robot who anemic do. He says the. I've been afflicted with adversity. Are you ready? Salaam? Does it make donahue. He just states the fact that I've been afflicted And so powerful that sufficient that was sufficient for a loss of Hannibal at the IDA to know what he wants what he saying and a lust soprano Diana says Though that we answered he's He's plea what he wanted. Even though it's not expressly woods he wanted a lawsuit Hainan with either to alleviate his suffering to fix the situation that he was also colonel. Valla he does the Removes Fiction And obviously he spoke he cool to lessen hand with after say what he was going through with lots of. Hanno with allies names and characteristics that he was looking appeal to at that time. We chose Hamill rocking that you are the most musset full out of those who are masterful. And so this is something that you know the Alabama they often speak about the when you make and you're looking for something from a lesson planning with then use those names those attributes of the loss of Hanuman Island which which linked to the that you're asking for so if it's For example you know we want a lesson hundred dollar to help us We may talk about you. Know we And here you ballet. Salamis looking for balance you have messy upon him and alleviate suffering so he speaks about messy Hanno with either as made his Story reminded fos that no matter what where afflicted we've now specifically in these days they're also people have fallen ill and they're suffering from that. There are those people who've Suffered the loss of livelihood in the same way as Saddam did there are those people who Who are losing family members? They themselves might be fine. Themselves may have gotten better but they have lost family members. So this only things that we may be going through now that Similar to what you really. Saddam expires. a lot of the The impact the effects of the time that we're leaving in the things that we're going through Not even GONNA become a power for a while When things start to settle and the economy in companies et Cetera et CETERA. Start to get back up to speed report. What's going on? We may find a lot. More people are affected their livelihood affected more than we know now because right now he's still a time of uncertainty. So we see we will happens. What's to come but the time that we're in now And the time to come whatever time it may be cool for something which is central to the story of. Are You Ready Center? And that. His patients his sub. We'll talk about that a bit later. what does patients look like? Now in our time patients would be when we were afflicted when something's difficult Is facing us so I do know some brothers who have lost their jobs One of others. He called me yesterday and spoke to me about the fact that he's sees Joel So these people don't know that for a fact now and there's those that don't know that for sure at the moment when something like that happens. There is an inclination forms. You know in some of us for many reasons It may be because of our background. They may be because away from that when something bad happens when something difficult happens the first instinct is to turn to some of those bad things from our background so someone may tend to drugs. Someone may may tend to You know other things other things. I don't mention them in the fear that people think it's okay to time to these things Because it's not a loss without when he speaks about patients and that's why we're talking about. It's not what is patients. Look like that when these things happen when these hardships they strike then a less Hannah what the ISLA expects from us that we tend to him. that's what patients looks like. We turned to him in Dora. We to humidity bad. We tend to him in controlling our our souls and containing ourselves. No not saying not doing things which will be displeasing to handle data and some of us have and some of us. Have you know so The person that I was speaking to that was one of these big fees that my initial reaction was not a good one but not much to handle without food or she and and I reminded the Butler that we can always make you turn into a lesson on it and we should in the doer of told by his own.
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"That must not be named great. It's driving me crazy. Not Knowing what show this is maybe you have named it and I just missed it but either way I gotta know please enlighten me so jim will. We re reveal this as a voldemort based show or. Is there a different reason? The show bus. You know why I'm like part of me wants to be like you'll never know but I really love that Terry. Is that her name? Yeah I really love that She's doing what we would wish people would do that. She really liked our Sopranos Show. And he's checking out our other shows. I really appreciate that. I think. That's super cool even on your boyfriend annoying and UN check out our westworld show. I will point out and I hope you don't like this show. Maybe you're a fan of this show. It's okay if you are but to us the show which must not be named is Mister robot which we did try to do it. We tried to do a discussion on it. We have if you go back into our archives. I think we did what I two seasons. We did the first two seasons and we did them in quite a lot of detail and I was never on board. I'll say that you eventually turned on it as well. Mr Obama was rough ride. Yeah we ended up just not having a great experience because obviously if you're doing a podcast or if people are seeking out a podcast for a show they don't want to hear someone complaining about Sh show they don't like and so. We realized we had to stop now. I don't know maybe that show turned itself around and maybe it. I know it finished this year or this past year. Something and part of me does want to go back and watch it and maybe came out good but even though there's a lot of stuff I think even you liked about it but there's a lot of stuff I liked about it. It just yes. It became a little bit too frustrating. And just not for us so we had to move on and it turned into. We did to earn a very valuable blessing. Is that like okay? We should be focusing shows that we enjoy because no one wants to hear someone complain episode after episode there dot enjoying something so it became a show. That must not be named well. The problem with that is as well that when we're doing shows that aren't the Sopranos. We don't really know what it's going to be before we start if we're current on it and we're discussing a new show it also Legion it's happened with other shows going in depth on something and then we're like there's some people who really love it or senior podcast where they love it. We're just being as critical as we would be of the Sopranos. The bar is so fucking high. So they're like these guys just meeting to complain and I don't enjoy doing that really either. So yeah that's Miss Robot. I genuinely feel like in a parallel universe. If I just had a slightly different brain chemistry like not saying I would be stupid or anything but like I would have to watch that show from a different point of view and my love. It like their stuff in there that you can love but it's also very much up its own ass and it's like all the bad stuff from westworld and none of the good stuff in my opinion. So that's the show that person be named and I think the reason why he became that is because anytime we would discuss another show and we'd bring up like a negative. We compare we. It was always our Goto. We'd always we found. We were complaining about Mister robot when discussing other shows. And we're like we can't keep bringing this up so it's the show that must not be named and that is the origin. That's that's a little bit more about us if you're if you only listen to our cut to black feed sometimes yeah we'll get into it on other discussions of other shows much like you may have heard US bring up. Gilmore girls here. You know we haven't done like a full. Proper Gilmore Girls Rewatch. I think we did the the the the movie or the the revival Sometimes you know things that we like starts bleeding in but then things we don't like also bleed into our other discussions. Yeah absolutely and like we have. We haven't done a full gilmore girls one even though we talk about all the time basically because similar to To to the Sopranos now there's already been like a hugely popular one discussing Gilmore Girls. Kinda waiting for its come around. We do on discussing the marvelous. Mrs Mazel which is by the same creator but like if this again not to push this too hard but if this is the only one of our podcast you've listened to you we also do have a game of thrones one Gilead Gazette which is about handmaid's tale stranger things we actually own strange things dot com. You can just go there. And you'll find our podcast American and then there's just shows that we've discussed here and they're like I'm eric. In God's American vandal Atlanta. That's just the one starting with A. There's a whole host of them there. If you go to go to the website Leah Up. Sorry I was GonNa say I think we need to follow through in our promise and something. I've been thinking about a lot and again. Maybe if you're big sopranos fan this might not interest you too much but highly recommended. And I think we're going to get into it is Cobra Kai because we both love that show and for whatever reason we never even discussed the first season or anything so we gotta get you up for the new season which will be starting so. I think that shows ripe for us to kind of discuss and get ready cause and I mean maybe if you're into Sopranos and you didn't realize over guy is actually a very great show and I think you to pass it up for free now Yeah I really enjoyed. That one's a weird one because I came back from season one and I was like wait. Why did I like this show so much? And that happens with a lot of shows when there's a gap because it is kind of cheesy to be honest. Yes but then you just get into it again and by the end of season two. I was like man. This is one of the best shows are. Even though it's that revival of karate kid would be as good as I think it is Leeann just wrapped up there or sorry. Tara just wrapped up there saying looking forward to hear your thoughts when the Sopranos Prequel movie comes in September. I recently Google the cast and was happy to found. The James Gandolfini son is playing a young Tony and got son got is their sign off. They're Nice. Oh that's the last of the emails we're GONNA do. Thank you to everyone who sent in your thoughts there. It's really fun to hear these kids island podcast as well and obviously sending an email is kind of a high bar for for getting in touch these days when texting. And everything is these tweets that everything is the new norm. So thank you. Everyone who took the time out of their day to that absolutely much appreciated. Thank you for listening. Thank you for checking out some of our other stuff. Thank you for giving US feedback. And Yeah we like to keep the discussions going. I would like to. I mean we've already talked about this but yeah we want to probably check in with a little boardwalk empire maybe some other mafia movies some other Gandolfini Projects. So you know. Don't don't unsubscribe worlds. We're still here and I will still be checking in so much appreciated. Yea besides what I mentioned as well. Jim has his podcast comedy. Podcast Jim and then dot com and I have awesome pedia Dot Org as a collection of all my other projects so if you WANNA check out other stuff we do. That isn't discussing television. Well sometimes we do on there as well to be honest it. Kinda bleeds over. But there's those as well as chose what you know dot com. But besides that Jim. I just have one more thing. Say ooh and minutes. I wasn't ready for this. I completely forgot God damn me. Oh Yeah what's that? Don't stop believing like what you did and route..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"To do? They don't want to Jab Jab. Patchy doesn't look like. There's anyone in that car. Yeah but it's also very easily wanted now. There's someone I could see their face. If you look I shot here. You could see. There's space right there but it's all blurry. Jim like he goes. It is like a ghost. Actually yeah I think it's got debunk this one. I think we gotTA debunk that one. When I froze it I mean. Yeah it's just. The car zips by a little motion blur on there so I mean it doesn't look like there's someone there but when you pause it yeah unless that's just the back back to the seat bag patchy any It's probably a ghost so one last thing since you guys love the humor in this show and this one took a few watches provide caught it but as you go back to the episode of the Cleaver Premiere and how funny it was wet. Chris chose to thank. Tony DidN'T SAY ANYTHING TO J T. The even funnier moment to me is if you watch right at the end of that scene. When he says enjoy the movie you can see the director onstage with notes. Ready to say speech just as he's about to take a step up to the Mike with a big smile on his face and theater goes dark and someone walks by and takes the mic off the stage. It's fucking hilarious. I did spot that and it is very very funny. It's very funny. Yeah it's a great moment. It's a great little goof- to put in there as yeah. He's ready to go and then they just completely ignore them and just move everything along like he doesn't exist yet and my clothes out by apologizing for another long email and says that I agree with Jacob. You guys should watch slowly hammer. It's fun and I believe it's actually Silvio's coma dreams which makes a lot of sense if you washed Lily Amer Eddie also says have you considered watching and doing a pot of boardwalk empire which we were just discussing. It wouldn't have to be every episode show but it was also an incredible show based on history. I would be a good filler until many saints of Newark Come Out. It also has a lot of X. Soprano stars in it as well. Obviously Steam Steve Jimmy and a bunch of other ones listed here as well. So yes we consider that and we may do that. Yeah thank you email. Mike is absolutely move. Move Right along here for to an email from mark says. Hey Jacob great work. Bring down the Sopranos Finale. Reluctantly I have to agree with your take. Tony being wacked at the end but then again can we can never be sure. I think that it's uh I think it's really watch David Chase intended all along. He played that the maximum effect. In the finale in terms of direction and dialogue. But I've also had the parentheses conspiracy theory that he was hinting at this ambiguity in the episode title itself. You see you can abbreviate made in America to M I a eight. Which of course is the combat classification missing in action that terms actually referenced in a previous episode The Keisha Episode. Probably during which fill laments fat dom being it's Mafia code for yet we know he's been whacked but we can't say it going even further back to season one when Percy's helping Chris dispose of his first kill. He explains that while people might suspect what's happened there. No but they don't know they think maybe so I don't know maybe I'm getting a bit carried away here but it's fun nevertheless thanks again for great podcast and I look forward to more soprano theme shows. Don't stop believing. What do you say to that Jim? I think that what he's I agree. It's very fun but it also completely points to dean debt as well like because all those examples of them saying I missing in action and even pussy talking about how like you know. They know what they don't know. In those cases those people were dead. Those people's it's a good catch. I think that the MIA like ambiguous but also clear like everyone knows but they don't know and that's exactly where we're at with Tony as well for sure so an email here from Dan who wrote S- I would like to commend you both on your excellent work on cut to black. I thoroughly enjoyed listening each week or so by Jacobs discipline and I look forward to your next deep dive. Have you considered poor empire? The podcast markets seems lacking an expert in the houses evacuate. Show my suggestion would be another excellent. Show Mad mad again. Thanks for the great work. Dan from Vermont's thank you. Yes as you've heard we've thought about it. Yeah I guess that's another good point. I haven't checked personally but yeah it does seem I guess not a lot. Maybe not a lot of podcasts on boardwalk empire because it is it is a really great show and I don't WanNa say forgotten but yeah. I don't hear it brought up a lot. Yeah actually grew. Boardwalk Empire podcast. There's a couple couple but yeah they're madman is just super inundated with podcasts. Which is another reason that like everyone who's like a main fan of Madman? You probably heard it but again can probably be said about the Broncos as well especially at this point So this is from Leah. Who writes just listened to your podcast of made in America? Great listen enjoyed your take and your take on the episode. I'd like to point out something that I haven't heard or read and I'd like your take on it when the scene at Halston Halston 's begins and Tony Walks in. He sees himself sitting there. Okay I think this is the same yet. This is the same thing we were going into the other email where they bring up. How Win Season? Two episode nine Christopher's shot and goes to the hospital and he tells them that his dad is in hell and seeing himself get whacked over and over and it also brings up the point here that he says. Mikey says Tony and Paulie three o'clock. Maybe I'm reading these sentences weird at this point but the whole point being. They mentioned three o'clock a lot. And the guy coming out of the bathroom would be at Tony's three o'clock angle. So what are your thoughts on this theory? Thanks for your love of Sopranos. I am a big Fan too. So again just touching on that same thing. Do you actually get any credence especially the fact that I mean. I personally didn't pick up. Pick up on it obviously immediately but the fact that people are putting this together. I think it works. That shot always kind of I always. I wasn't sure if I should just read it as something. That's supposed to put me like ad an unease but that specific shot of him looking at himself always kind of throws me off. When I'm watching it and I guess it I always thought it works really well just to Kinda build that anticipation or that's suspense. That plays out because you know the episodes almost over you know. It's the last episode. It's just a weird little thing and then with that in combined with the other edits but I think I think there's some validity to what these people are talking about and it does work in tie in and it's funny because it does seem like that like it's a memorable episode either way the one with three o'clock because I think that's the one when polly goes to the like the psychic and he like freaks out and throws the chair and all that but it does seem like if it wasn't for some something like the Russian people would constantly being like all right. When's three o'clock coming? What's going over three o'clock? I mean especially in this day and age with red if the Sopranos Airing then people would always be bringing it up but no I like it. It's not something that popped out to me but I like this take personally. I don't believe it and I believe in it. You know it's it's whatever you read into it but for me the sopranos all of the quote unquote supernatural stuff. It's always been in someone's head right so for me watching it from a more agnostic point of view. I can watch the stuff when he's almost dead and in a coma at. He's almost walking into this house. And I can view all of that as symbolism within his own brain. I can view it as him. Sort of pro saying almost dying in a way that relates to his worldview and all that stuff but his brain is still functioning taking. And we're still in his point of view This theory presupposes that Tony will still be able to experience things after he's dead and I don't believe in my world view. That's not a possibility and I'm very happy to watch his show where that is a possibility. I love fantasy show but I don't think the unless I'm mistaken Miss. Remembering the Sopranos never really gives you that says that that's the thing inside it but it doesn't go the full way or closest they come to it easiness episode. They're referring to with the psychic because the psychic kind of brings up stuff that he wouldn't really know off the top of my head anyways that's the closest they kind of come to almost being like you know. There is a a spiritual or supernatural element in the world. But then again you know you could you could. You don't have to go down that road but I'm just saying that's the closest they come to maybe confirming it. Yeah so for me. Personally I think you have to kind of come at the Sopranos with a worldview. That's more in line with there. Might be a hell or whatever in order to believe that because I don't think the show does enough to show that and that could be. Maybe maybe that's not something one actively believe him but like just from cultural background and everything. But that's the sort of thinking you have for me personally. I feel like it goes against the cut to black at the end of the N. Being like when it's over it's over. That's what they talk about in that season. That's what he and Bobby says that they repeat what it's just black. There's nothing after it so the idea that he's in hell add replaying it or whatever it kind of feels like it goes against the general point about what death is so. That's why I don't really subscribe to this one. I agree I agree with the CUT TO BLACK NEGATES. That because that is basically yeah. That's it dead and gone nothing else. Yep Yep so. Another postscript from from here you also talk about the possibility of Paulie flipping and going out to Bush's crew because of the scissors which is a plausible theory. I hadn't heard that before but I'd like to bring up in season. Four episode twelve. Elise Paulie kills men because of all the money. She has hidden under a mattress and she stares `sorry and she stares at dinner stays it. Yeah she stated. It must have been what she meant. She stated at dinner that her husband was in the barber cutlery business. So that's where I think has the Barbara Scissors. And he just held off too. Because whatever policy needs to get on Tony's good side he go into his bag of tricks they always just talk about guys not kicking up their full share throughout the series. And this is just an example of Paulie not kicking up the Barbara Scissors. The property stole them but later when he needed to in my opinion. I think that's exactly as believable as the other Barbara Scissors. Honest it it does work. I think it does still work. Although I mean it is funny because polly's Oh things he had to get that money but it's great that he not only got that money shattner mattress but he like Doug Around. What else you got in here. Oh these are nice scissors. You know who knows what else you got more chachis so another email here. I think this might be the last one for episodes from terrier who writes guys. I recently discovered your podcast while watching the Sopranos for the Second Time I love cut the black and just finished listening to all of it. My boyfriend says you guys are annoying to. What does he know what? What does that tell them? Why does he think we're annoying? Above bums me out. Ask Him which one is a blow? How hard do all right? We need to get your boyfriend's -pinion on this leave it in a review please. I immediately started rewatching episode one once I was done. That's that's what we did as well and a great time for a Rewatch as we said. Why would the current geopolitical pandemic climate? And since then I have not been able to find a show. That is as amazing. I decided to start westworld since he guys also podcast on that so far so good but obviously it doesn't fill the void of my beloved Sopranos Family. Something I've noticed while listening to cut the black and Westworld theories is that Jim I believe is always referencing show..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Unless you had anything else to add to for them now yeah. Let's get into some listener emails. I'm sure our discussion will. We've naturally around these points as ever so lots of people got in touch after finale. It's really nice to hear from the silent majority of listeners. Because we can we can tell. There's people listening. Obviously and some of you can leave reviews but there was this kind of a flood of email so we might not get to all of them but thank you. We're on a in this age in Telford England day one listener Bene- fantastic ride love every odd you've done despite some grumblings from others. Okay I say Jacob Alright Alright. I didn't read this time. I say Jacob is all right despite potentially calling me stupid for thinking. Tony and Renata had Renata killed somehow okay. I don't think that now after my eighth run through watching hop after Kennedy and Heidi. I noticed a link between Chris and Adriana I maybe reaching but those twos demise ultimately come after car crashes with Tony. I eight and Tony. Avoid the deer going for coke that convince Chris the Tony was banging her resulting in making it easier for Chris to dispose of her once. She came clean about Danielle. Then Chris's end came swerving Kennedy and Heidi came swerving Kennedy and Heidi again after giving Tony Left. I don't know if I read that sentence but it's diverted weird. Both died from flawed drug problem slash connection both killed on Tony's dime. A metaphor is in there somewhere. Life is one big road. Going forward. Can't go back roads ahead etc plus a few Tony's dream sequences involved driving on an open roads. Forgive me if the link is tenuous but I think it's the GOP with as an excuse to email you guys and thank you for the great listening along the way talking about the greatest TV show ever made finally and most importantly I'd like to say cut to black. Don't stop believing and that's from age. If that is how you say your name well let me let me be clear. You don't need an excuse to email us to thank us. You could just you could do that. You could just say thanks great show and will love it and we'll cherish it. I promise you that I mean I think yeah obviously the the long and winding road. I think that works as a metaphor. Especially when you're doing dreams and sopranos loves that the the Adriana and Tony avoiding the deer and all that. I think that's a little bit spaced out from the death. But you're right it does plant the you know not maybe not initial seeds but it does separate Tony and Christopher quite a bit there and as Christopher points out at the end of that episode. We're basically at the end. It doesn't even matter if he did have sex with her. It's just the fact that you know. It could have happened and that people believe it happened and he has to just deal with it and I love that Kennedy and Heidi just bring up Kennedy and Heidi makes me smile because I think of the soprano session book when they're talking about how to most important characters in the whole series and how that made Jacob very annoyed. Yeah that's right yeah. I like the idea like the thought. I didn't even think it myself but it just the fact. Excuse me just the fact that they're both in cars with Tony shortly before they die. It's it's just a nice link up for me and my brain better than the eggs. Also it better than the eggs. Ooh But are you can't put down the eggs. Put them right down on Kraken. Nothing bad will happen to me afterwards. This from Barbara. This and madman are my two favorite shows of all time. I have really enjoyed listening to your Sopranos podcast for the past two years. I had watched the show when it originally aired and I enjoyed re-routing with your podcast as you know. Matthew got his start on the Sopranos Before Madman and there are many similarities between the two shows linked us in an article that compares Tony Soprano's towards Bro Don Draper. Anyway I really liked enjoyed your podcast and would love to continue with an equally excellent show. Thanks for making my ride right-to-work enjoyable every week and then she added in a PS here on some symbolism in the finale the barber scissors that has been compared to the thirty pieces of silver that Judas received for betraying Jesus. Inferring that Paulie has betray. Tony what's your take Jim. Well like I said when we discussed the finale. I think there's enough lingering shots and Paulie reactions where I don't personally believe it. I'm on your side here with this but I think there's enough there that I couldn't poo poo someone for Reading into polly's character and suspecting him a little bit more especially if you're like us and you do fully believe that Tony Soprano dies at the end and you're looking for more of reasoning behind that which I think we kind of decided that doesn't really matter who killed him. It's just the fact that you get. He does die but I think if you're looking for more of a blame or a through line to come to that ending. I think there's enough there where I couldn't sit shit on it. Yeah no that's fair. It's not a crazy theory. I mean given everything going like. Tony almost killed Paulie the fact that Paulie might like. There's no way he would do it himself in my opinion but like he might step aside. If someone else is GONNA kill Tony. I wouldn't put that past him necessarily and like you said we put we put Tony on the board. Like we believe Tony's fully dead. So if you think that you might have a good time trying to piece together how it actually came to be at. Is that our conclusion was. It doesn't really matter to us but if someone wants to do that. And if some signs point to Paulie that's fine still think Barbara Scissors. I don't know I don't think that they would have compared like that. I don't think that's intentional. I think that read can be there and I think David Chase would say. Hey whatever you wanNA think whatever but I don't think that would have been intentional from his side but then again it doesn't really matter. Whatever you get out of it is fine. Yeah and I mean I. I'm warming up more and more to the idea of a potential mad men. Watch I know Jacob's Maine kind of push back on that and I do agree with them. Mostly is that we'd kind of be looking more for a similar vibe. So we have with the surprise. Where maybe it's a show one of us hasn't seen because that kind of is a funny angle to work with the. I guess I'd be more 'cause I'm thinking personally like I'd be interested to go back to Rewatch Madman now in a similar fashion as Sopranos. Because I've think I even stated on the show I always looked at me. Mad Men is very similar to some of the BACK HALF SEASONS OF SOPRANOS. And you can totally see whether it be that Matthew Winer affected. David chase a bit more David Chase affected Matthew wigner and kind of set him on his path to do madman type deal but I think I think there's a there's a strong link there for the way like They play with like existential dread and stuff like that and I did only watch that show as it aired and that was another one that had similar breaks where then I was coming back in a little bit. Cloudy on what happened before again. Not that it's super plot driven where you need to have this. Oh yeah this is season one this season too but it would be interesting to go back and kind of be able to watch it in one sitting like that and maybe I. I think it's clearly a show that is ripe for discussion but then again I guess the other side never mind just the fact of like not A. We've both seen it. I'm sure they're probably a ton of Madman podcast but then again that's probably say about any TV show so either way while we haven't got the stars of Madman doing their podcast yet. Which means it's still time. There's still time for us to do ours. Because when they do they're gonNA have a chance anymore. They're eventually going to have to hope that we get to finish are bad men one before they do that. Generally about madman. I watched all of it. I pretty much binged through it. I didn't see yes so this might be totally different on a rewatch but basically I like madman a lot and I just like you said I wouldn't even mind rewatching it a probably prefer to watch it more than one episode per week. But I wouldn't mind watching it but as fans now having just seen it once. I don't love it to the level. I love the Sopranos but then I probably wouldn't love the Sopranos. If I hadn't discussed every week you know I would. I would still like it a lot. I'm sure but just talking about it has opened up so much more of what's available in the actual text there so that's one of my my main hesitation is we've both seen it so it's not quite is not going to be quite the same but it's also. I don't even though we both like it. I don't think either of US likes it as much as we like the Sopranos. It's almost like if there are other podcasts. Discussing Madman if they are you know they will probably be the most super fans ever. It's their actual favourite show much better than the Sopranos and maybe a have more enthusiasm for it and more to get out of it and to give to the listeners who might also be on that level of fan for it but that said I would like to watch it again so I guess we'll see yeah recall but if we do a madman podcast would definitely be on a different feed than cut to black so again. I would urge you to go to shows what you know dot com. Sorry I'm just GonNa keep plugging this but there you'll find any feed we do on that on this feed. I wanted to mention as well. We may get into other like mafia related stuff just because it feels more appropriate and especially like when there's not much happening in the world of Sopranos until the prequel comes out Like just to float some ideas by you dear listener. We're we're talking about like boardwalk empire and some stuff like that that is actually you related but if you have any suggestions for content our email inboxes still open. Yeah and I think in some of these emails people did call up boardwalk empire and I mean it's shares a good amount of cast and also people behind the scenes as well because what's terence winter. I believe created it right. I think so And Yeah I think we've talked a little bit about that with maybe wouldn't be as episode to episode as we did the Sopranos. But I think that's for sure on the board. I think that's something that would fit pretty. Well Yeah I think like we were doing. Between the seasons. We were discussing various mob films. Mafia films and yeah. I Dunno and obviously boardwalk empire especially in the similar way to the history episode. Did that I did with with mark and Michael. When we talked about the historical context leading up to the Sopranos. There's loads of stuff to unpack there in boardwalk empire and like everything going on. And how? How did this thing that they're talking about this thing that Tony's coming in at the end of it would be interesting to examine the start of that too many anyway? Here's the next email it's from Francis. I just listened to the made in America episode of cut to black. The two of you do such a good job with the system breakdown. You also kept me laughing. Thank you your take on most of the show being just fine. If there was a laugh track is bought on a like Jim. I've I've seen the first season's many more times than I've watched the rest of the series and I had a nonstop smile on my face. Those first ten or so episodes. I remember them so vividly from my first few watches. If I had to make this podcast with Jacob I could not have kept a straight face as he was trying to make sense and predict what the show would finally be at the black and I was one sad. I was one of the sad few that held out. Hope Tony Soprano was still alive but now that he is up on the counter. I know for sure that he is no longer with us. That's really nice. I've meant to send you a few thoughts on nearly every episode but I just couldn't get on many levels of analysis in detail that the two of you bring. I only had a couple of things today. So veto spadafore. Who isn't veto yet. Cuts Chris in line at the Pastry. Shell before. Chris shoots the clerk in the foot. I do remember this one gym. This may have been mentioned but it gets me every time on a rewatch. Yeah no great moment to go back when there's just stuff like that at it also happens in our second favourite. Tv Show Gilmore Girls Go. There's an ice call because I do remember. I think we did bring it up in one of the discussions..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Review here from TM J. thirty-five who said there is only one thing left to say that's the title of the Review and the body of the review is best podcast ever got Sano Lungi. Great thank you. Thank you thank you so much But going back to what you were saying though doing this. Sopranos Rewatch has kind of really well. Just in general in general my life of like watching. Tv and being a TV fan and wanting to watch TV. Never mind the podcast side of the podcast side. I'll get to in a minute but just in my life of watching TV doing the Sopranos Rewatch and I think we've talked a little bit about this off. Mike it's tainted watching other shows and I'm sure a lot of these sopranos fans that listen to our podcast can relate. It's hard not to be like. There's this new show. Everyone's talking about man. Maybe I'll just watch the sopranos though or maybe you know I don't really WanNa watch it but also on the podcast side of things. It's turned me off a bit like don't get me wrong. I just did a westworld discussion. I did enjoy the discussion and much like most of our podcasts. It makes me appreciate what I watched a bit more. But I don't know it's made me want to lean more towards shows that are done and be like all right what what other shows done and we can just go and discuss that for a bit. So it's hard to say but I I still like to keep up with what's going on some of the new things but yeah it's it's it's been a great experience having a show that's like all right. Well here's all the the show. Now just go and watch it and talk about it all. It's a little tougher with some of the new ones. But you also want to stay ahead of the curve. So I'm in quite a contr- quandary if you will yeah it's hard I guess I mean having come from not having seen any of it at all and watched all of it and disgusted obviously at length. I see where everyone's coming from. That's like just just washed the Sopranos over and over like I get it can definitely sense. What you're saying is well like because of the discussions we've had you sort of get into how this show respect. Its audience more by not respecting it. Yes that makes sense at all like by going like Nah. This stories like feels like always like it's goes like nine. It's just going to be. Its own like it's we're telling this story and ratings be damned or whatever. I'm sure that's not totally true in execution but it just feels like now. We're not GONNA do what's expected and that doesn't mean a big twist that means not doing a bit big twist and we've talked about this at length as well but but yeah it it just something that. I can't recall seeing and other shows. We always draw the parallel to breaking bad. Breaking bad is a great show but it plays by the rules and Sopranos was like looking at the rules of television at the time and going. No we're not. We're not interested in doing that. We're going to do something great instead. Yeah and and not to pick. I don't WanNa get too into this and I don't WanNa pick on better call Saul too much but coming off of finishing sopranos and then getting back into better call Saul which is a great show. Better Better Call. Saul is a great show but it's such a different take coming out of being in a sopranos mode and in addition to it also being a prequel which already has its own baggage because the spending a lot of time like explaining things that don't eat explanation and Sopranos is so much about being like who gives a fuck like and then but better call Saul is being like well you remember this guy. This is how he got his name. Or you remember this. You know this was actually this five years before and it's tough to get back into that mode sometimes and not be like a little bit annoyed and I can't blame the show. It's just Even going back to when we discussed the L. Camino movie the better call Saul Sikander. Better CALL SAUL THE BREAKING BAD. Like epilogue or sequel. Whatever you WANNA call it because that universe is full of very intelligent. Criminals like very intelligent disciplined criminals. That could work a day job and also run. This criminal empire in Sopranos is very much like these are dumb assholes. That kids are very bad people but they don't. They're very hypocritical. And Messy and things happen to work out for him so it's a weird you know it's it's hard to go back and forth to that when you're watching one thing and getting into another and again. I'm not trying to pick on those things because Vince Gill again. I love Vince Gilligan. And all the people he works with super talented they make great stuff. They make amazing. Tv It's just getting in that. Mindset sometimes is tough because you know. David chases his own flavor and it kind of clashes a bit even though they're dealing in similar like anti heroes and bad people and crime drama and stuff like that so it's kind of like an interesting back and forth. That happens if you're trying to watch one thing and then switch gears a little bit Yup and even if it doesn't seem like it bring bad is imparted like it's evil geniuses going head to head and that's like super exciting but it's also like like you said these disciplined criminals like. I do my job and I follow a code and it has that feel as we've talked about an discussions bring bad and and of course better call Saul. It has the feel of a Western where some people are just like. I am the guy who follows the rules. But the rules of crime in this case L. whereas in the Sopranos thing is more as you said like not. They're going to be like a piece of shit about it and probably going to do this crime and they're probably GONNA fuck it up we're GonNa do but there are going to get away with it because they're just gonNA threaten the witnesses maybe kill one of them. I don't know it's Kinda like now. The world's a bad place and it doesn't matter like they're they're going to win anyway but then they're going to die. I don't know like I say tonight voice but I like it. I think one of the big questions for the Sopranos Prequel. The saints is going to be. Is it going to be similar to El Camino? Because of the thing in our discussion about Camino you can find it shows which you know dot com. I think is that we're describing it as A. It's sort of doesn't add much. It's sort of like a nice little epilogue. I felt anyway but it's it doesn't work as its own separate thing and wonder if many saints is going to fall into some of the traps that we see in pretty much every prequel ever made a that. You just Kinda go like what. What's your name? Oh you're You're such a joker like I don't know I haven't seen joker but that's pretty. That's pretty much what I assume happens Or or no what do you think I mean not that we can say in advance but it's like it's always scary when something is brought back. That is pretty much perfect. It's very scary. Especially it being a prequel because prequels in general like really suffer from things like if we're going to have the origin of Paulie Walnuts. I'm GONNA be mad. I'M GONNA be mad if they do that. What do you got walnuts up all about? You know what I mean like. That gets a little scary. I'm very excited. That David Chase's playing back in this universe but then I still get worried because you know it is a movie so you don't have the the options of a TV show where you get to kind of expand on these characters bit but it also so that limits it in a way because it's going to be what two hours or what have you and then the fact that it is going to be a prequel and you have to resist. That urge to play out little winks mean maybe a couple here and there but I mean again this is David Chase. He was never really about that. But I don't know maybe maybe movie David Chase is a little different than TV David Chase. I will have to see how that works. Yeah and you. That's an interesting question as well because my excuse for not knowing this is that I've gone in blind and everything but like what is David. Chase been working on since the Sopranos Snake. I mean we have more of as the only thing I can think about. My head was he did do a movie with Gandolfini that was about like an kind of loosely based on him himself growing up and like his relationship with his dad and being in bands. And stuff like that. Like I don't feel like sixties. Or or maybe the fifties or sixties or something like that not fifties sixties or seventies Let me see because that was not fade away. I believe in trying to see all right anything else in between there. Yeah I was looking at it now. As well. And I mean he. He has impeccable television pedigree going back to the seventy S. But we like our next podcast. GonNa be on northern exposure. That wasn't gonNA happen because we don't have that much David Chase after the Sopranos. The one thing on here is in television. Needed a voice on Bo Jack Oarsmen. That's like ten years after the Sopranos Village decided that so there's a lot before then but not much after I just brought that up because I'm like I don't Wanna I don't Wanna be pessimistic but usually someone who makes something perfect when they come back especially for years and years later. I don't know it's usually no perfect again. I don't want to get anyone's hopes down or whatever but I think maybe going into something with lowered. Expectations is a good thing. Generally yeah I mean we're GONNA has to watch not fade away. I do remember watching it years and years ago. It didn't make that much of an impression on me but I don't remember a ton of it but I'd be interested in revisiting it just to see how it plays now. So yeah but yeah looking at it. He hasn't done a lot in it. Is it's weird that yeah. He did this one movie. I don't think it was received that well and then he didn't do anything else and now he's going back to the Sopranos. It's like all right. Yeah so that will be really interesting bud for now. We're still talking about standards broncos. We have a lot of feedback to get to get in some listener. E mails zero..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"I'm really went downhill after the world. Trade Center you know. Quasimodo predicted all this. Who did what all these problems. The Middle East. The end of the world. Nostradamus Quasimodo's the hunchback of Notre Dame. All Right Notre dominance nostradamus and Notre Dame different incompletely interesting though the bee so similar and I always thought okay hunchback of Notre Dame also got your quarterback and you have to Notre Dame. Let's fuck in Cotija. Obviously I know I'm just saying it's interesting to coincidence. Y You're gonNA tell me you. Never ponder that compacting with Notre Dame. No Me Neither. But wow when we're at these end times we like to look to the past. We like to think that someone I saw this coming and not to place this in the here. And now we're all quarantine in our homes. We've finished the Sopranos. All we can do is look back. Watch it again and learn from the Sopranos. My name is Jim Scam. Paulie I've seen every single episode of the Sopranos My Name Jacob Boroughs. I've seen every single episode of the Sopranos. Still feels really special saying that. And what a great time for Sopranos Rewatch. That's my only commentary on the current climate. It's been said before and it will be said again. What a great time for Sopranos. Rewatch what we're doing. This week is looking back at the whole series and sort of summit up some thoughts and we're also going to be hearing from a lot of you listeners. Who've sent your thoughts in you can of course send thoughts even after this. We're going to do episodes probably not regularly but there's obviously the many sayings of Newark coming out. And Yeah that's GonNa be great and I also wanted to thank anyone who tuned in to listen to our sort history coverage there that we did of the Irishman Crossover episode. If you've found that interesting there's more of that at shows what you know dot com. Just Click radio history there. We talk about gladiator and all the historical context of a bunch of different films. Like three hundred and all sorts but the Irishman sort of let us nicely into the Sopranos. So I thought that was a good in between episodes before we got to this. Wrap up here and yeah. It really is time to wrap the bag on this one. Jim Yes yes and I also want to point out like when I say in these times I mean depending on you're listening to this obviously could be well on the other side of this thing but I mean right. Now we're quarantine our homes like the timing of bus. Finishing our rewatch is so perfect in many respects. Not just the fact that like we have this pandemic going on but we have a glutton of Sopranos Rewatch. Podcast starting also spot guests that have the people that were on the fucking show. Thank God we've finished and we have our. We have our little body of work. We have our hook of someone like you Jacob. That was going along for the ride for the first time. So we're not really competing with fucking Michael Imperial early and Steve Sherpa. Who are you know re watching the show? That's right? Christopher Multi Sante and Bobbi Bacha La themselves also Adriaan. If you'd heard on her feet dre also doing a rewatch thank fucking God really where the head of the curve. I mean weren't quite of that curve. Something like some of the other earlier podcast but thank God. That's all I can say like. Our timing was just so perfect. We've finished it. We got to let that simmer for a bit now. We can still check in. We can still talk sopranos but we completed the rewatch portion. Yeah we were head of the curve. Now it's time to flatten the car as we talk about this. It's so true because we couldn't even ever started cut to black if this Christopher and bobby show was starting at the same time happening at all even and made made woman made women as well That we featured last week. So yeah it's really great. Timing on our end is say. Thank you wonders. Come along for the ride and I mean I. We're going to have more stuff on this feed. But like I would welcome any suggestions on what shows do next. But I would do so tentatively because even though we've been doing cut to black it's always been part of the bigger shows what you know thing like. We talked about it all the time. I don't know if you listener have had a chance to check out the other stuff on the network but like right. Now we're talking about Westworld. You know something current it's coming out at the moment season three but like we're always jumping on different shows that were interested in discussing and the Sopranos such a great and huge piece of film history. That we're definitely going to speak a lot in like exaggerated phrases here. I think is where we just stood a watch throughout the whole show but I do feel like. It's a bit of a piece of history that we've done and I would like to do other pieces of television history as well but we are also like monitoring in real time for anything that's happening in the world of TV and we've done so for several years. There's a lot of shows covered at shows what you know dot com. But if you have a suggestion I would very much appreciate it. Either in a review which yes though you can deliver review with much. Be Much appreciated or send it.
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Tony's they're describing dream that something silly and stupid and they turn that into like an actual like going into the psychology of him which is a lot more exciting than just using those scenes to frame the rest of the show with him doing voiceover but it is so memorable and the ending shot as well is extremely memorable how everyone walks in and it just the camera just moves over to sit on the pool and it feels like something. That's just come back again and again as well. Even though they don't talk about it the show kind of makes you think of it regularly even to the penultimate episode there when they're draining the pool after. Aj's tried to kill himself in it. Yes yeah yeah just the way. It's their enough. They don't have to directly address it just kind of some of the shots and even how I mean. We've mentioned it a few times when you sigh. J. Look at the pool you like. Oh yeah the pool again. You know that's always been around. But it was the setup for the big suicide attempt So yeah it's because there are a lot. I'm not saying every great show needs to have a great pilot because there are a lot of there are a lot of shows that have kind of a whatever pilot to even a whatever for season. Because I'm sure you've heard it in relation to other shows where people like. Okay yeah you know I mean the famous one that keeps popping? My head is buffy. The vampire slayer even though season. Not that bad. But it's more like you gotTa Get Past. Some of the the effects are always cheesy. But they're even more cheeser because they have less money in the first season and they're still finding their footing but something like the Sopranos even though that is true like it's not like season one in my opinion isn't as strong in comparison to other seasons. But it is. It's interesting. Go back and see that it is almost just as good and it's kind of all there and they just means that they're already making a great show but then as they start to find their footing they're making like an excellent show as it goes on they. Just keep building off of it and getting better and more confident. I think we've talked a bit about. I forget which season I guess. Almost every season premier seems to exude confidence. Each time where they're kind of going into more things and like almost like swagger to it and I think to cut in there like the fact that they made a really great show in season one They could have continued and sort of made another great season another great season and Sorta cap doing more traditional stuff and that's kind of when they started going. Nah Let's we want expand this. We want to do something. That is actually different. Not Focus on the things you think we would focus on and I think that confidence you mentioned that certain like the season premieres have in this show. I feel like a lot of shows these days. They don't do this thing where they make the great first season they just come in with that hundred percent confidence and they do they put like they act like they're making a fantastic show and then they manage to fool some people and you can go and like it's it's good right. They had like good stuff. But it's actually get by on that swagger and the Sopranos. Did it right where they're sort of building the confidence as they go? I can think of several shows like westworld and Mister robot for example. Let's start out with all of this swagger but are able to deliver and are they able to build on it or is it all just empty air in the Sopranos? It was never empty air. Yeah no I think. That's I think that kind of sums it up perfectly absolutely. Yeah right well if you have thoughts on the Sopranos Sh You probably know by now but you can send them to shows. Would you know show at gmail.com and we will see how we do things? I'm sure we'll do a pretty long episode on the finale. Maybe we'll hold off on feedback and thoughts and do another episode with just that a shorter one So if you want to send your thoughts for us to.
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Kind of means like like it's a little too calling back to not as modern mafia stuff like because those famous mafia movies Goodell's godfather stuff like Dow. Obviously they take place you know whether goodfellas what seventies and eighties or something or sixties and seventies and then Godfather's like before that I believe Some other some other people brought up that like it's maybe because it comes off as too fun and David Chase doesn't want Tony to be a fun guy even though the days when he's happy I think it's interesting. It's I think it makes sense. That he would feel that way. Just having watched the show and trying to understand where he's odd as creator it makes sense but I also think it works perfectly for even just setting it up as Sopranos. He didn't really know what like obviously and made it yet. He didn't really know what was going to happen. In all of the Sopranos and like the way Gandolfini didn't know who Tony was completely in the audience even less so I get the criticism. He would put against from himself of it. Being like odd it's like classic Goodfellas type move but it just makes a lot of sense to start with that when you're gonna go ahead and subvert right yeah. I agree because I've heard some people in the discussions. They kind of refer to sopranos like the first season being goodfellas PARTU and but it's like clearly they love goodfellas would forget how how many people share the casting. We went over when we discuss. Goodfellas like clearly. That's a big jumping off point a big influence. But Yeah I think it does work as kind of like. Oh this kind of goodfellas right. And let's ease you in with that and then let's Kinda start to separate and make our own thing and one thing I never thought of before too is I always just assumed that this came out after analyze this but I guess analyze this came out like three months after the premiere. The Sopranos was kind of very much like around the same time. And that's Deniro being a mobster going to therapy therapist. And but it's like a little bit more slapsticky and humorous so China Gauge. Like people's attitudes on like. Oh It's just that movie trailer I've seen in the theatres is it's on. Hbo Is this a new comedy as HBO? Kind of not being what it is now of you know prestige. Tv I think they had Oz beforehand. Which had a lot of critical acclaim? It didn't never blew up as much as like the Sopranos or some of the later. Hbo shows but they're still even just getting their footing as far as being a destination for like television shows. Yeah I mean and you talked a lot in season one about the comedic elements and with that in mind You know you can understand that even more that there might be some like ause therapist. Therapist Nazario the gangster walks into a therapist's office. You know it's the joke but like there's other other bits like that as well that I'm like wait like it feels a bit more enhanced than later episodes in certain ways like when meadows climbing back into a room and Carmella just immediately goes to a pillar and takes out a huge gun. Feels like not a thing that Carmella later season would necessarily react by way? But that we're having that in here to show that this isn't your normal family type thing if that makes sense. Yeah Yeah it's it's. It's it's fairly broad like it's a broad joke because it's like it's almost like silhouette she comes out with this big assault rifle but yeah it's it is kind of laying the seeds of the different types of family. We're dealing with here. I mean but they still have a classic line when he's in therapy. It's it's one of those one of those like What is it Mala props where Tony says something wrong? I've been loving that. They've been doing in the season. We're discussing read. He calls himself. I think Hannibal Lecture. He's like Oh you think I'm Hannibal Lecture over here so another thing. I wanted to mention as well like about how looking back. You think this takes place over a longer period of time like the whole thing of getting Livia into the retirement community and I mean. Obviously that's not totally settled in this episode but go and visited Tony Collapses in it and the first thirty minutes of the show. I'm just like I remember. That is the thing that spans ages and ages and then it goes immediately into it. Yeah so and of course you know the running things with you. Know he told my girl cousins. Never be a varsity athlete. It's so great to hear it in the first episode. Or you know Gary Kupa. The strong silent type not that. I believe they had these on a board and then in season five will bring up the Gary Cooper Again. Obviously it's just smart writing and kind of establishing your themes and things you wanNA explore in the beginning and then mining them properly but it really helps helps it. Feel like such a cohesive brilliant show and we get into things like after colonel catches meadow. She's not allowed to go skiing or whatever so she's upset so she's doing what we now would consider to be the AJ thing admire computer like looking at a really really fake website like they really stepped up their fake website game by the end of the series. But this looks super fake. But she's their base. I think in the same chair that age as in at some point later like and doing our old condescending. I don't WANNA go eat cake with you. Think wearing our white gloves. Sorta stuff as that's going on in this episode to. Yeah Yeah and then yeah we could see how the like I guess being being a parent especially if multiple kids going through them hating you in phases like all right now. I'm friendly with the older one. I have the other one. Hate me for a little bit longer and you go to go totally different. But how does it see hash sort of threatening people for Money Right? Just one of the guys now in this. But he's not really later. Yeah Yeah because that's the guy that they run down right and then they're on the bridge is it doing their HMO scam and going back to kind of the broad jokes. Although I guess it's still a joke they would maybe do now when Pussy and Chris have the body and it's clearly not going to go in the dumpster and they like the one two three and they just toss it into the wall. I Yeah I don't even think I picked up on that because I didn't think they were ever. I thought they were just GonNa leave it there so I but now that you mention it. That sounds hilarious. I should watch it the third time but yeah I mean it's it's so it's it's so fun to go back and see like there are things like we're talking about. There's little things there that it's like okay. They didn't quite have this in mind yet. Because what Sacha realities is even called something different? It's like Santanas or something like that but the the the main the main stuff was there from the beginning and even though season one probably as a whole is very different from where we are now. It's it's like it the the bones were there. The foundation was there and They killed it. Of course you could see Adriana As the hostess although it's not pursue videos so it's not Adriana she was just brought workers like David Chase her or something. Yeah Yeah yes you just hostess. And they're like Oh we could use her in the other episodes and then History was made. Yeah we've mentioned how we gathered sort of tidbits throughout by attending wikipedia. As I'm sure we all have. I'm really glad I was careful with that. Because like on the wikipedia page for this it says like Little Pussy Milonga. The man uncle junior wants to kill an Arby's restaurant is the same person. For whom junior mistakes Tony when he shoots him in the season six episode members only on the wikipedia. Yeah thankfully God damn. Yeah because there's the whole thing on this one way connections to future episodes. Yeah just bringing up all these later episodes. And how how the callback sue it? Yeah like a season two episode funhouse pussies dead body gets thrown in the ocean after Coney Silvio and Paulie execute him for being FBI informant mirroring the quote about Luca Brasi. Sleeping with the fishes like. Yeah this is. This is exactly the sort of thing that we've mentioned in Brian's email at that I'm glad I did not read all of this shit. Yeah because yeah just want to get a glimpse and go kill to see in the near like yeah. You just immediately have major things spoiled. I mean which I guess. I understand why it's there because you know it is an old show. They just figure like hey. These are fun connections. Jesus and it says so much. It's such a great scene in the episode and another thing that I didn't think it was in the pilot going back to what you're talking about that some of these things it seems like it would have been later on church. Yes yes I totally thought that was a few episodes later. I mean I knew is in the first season and they kind of call back on it with like. Aj in Tony. I believe but I don't. I totally didn't remember that it was in the pilot. Yeah yeah no exactly and it brings up this whole running throughout thing of like where God Damn Italians were Goddamn immigrants. We built this. We didn't design it but we built it and coming in at the end of something and all this good stuff that just runs throughout the whole show and it's all right here in the first episode. It's not a person. It's the first episode. Yeah Yeah I like to feels like when there's that moment where kind of sinks with meadow that's like. The seeds of. How meadow is a contrarian to her family but then when it comes up amongst outsiders she kind of toes the family line and goes with the family story I feel like that's we're seeing the beginning of that right there and I guess for Silvio being somewhat of an outsider. He used the one. That's the sets the bomb in a restaurant. So yeah I mean I was going to say as well. Because one of these connections the future episodes wikipedia is when Tony Suspecting Ralph of having torched pile my stable if I'd read that man that's the biggest sport. Wherever that is going to die. I would have been fucking So I joke but genuinely when the horse was coming up. You're like Oh by the horse. Hey and I was like what yeah? I guess there's the horse because I remember the name remember. There was such a background thing and I was like. Oh Yeah we see pile my house like Oh shit like even then I was worried I was like I'm not I don't want to give too much away that important. It says the Tony Asks Ralph. If he's heard from Corky CI lately an expert arsonist. Who was responsible for setting already bouquets restaurant on fire. But Yeah I just remember seeing Silvio there as well yes yeah yeah so I mean. Obviously we don't need to go through all the beats. Were just kind of talking about the pilot in general in relation to coming up on the end. I do WANNA mention another thing. Totally in line with everything. We're talking about Christopher in this episode talking about selling story to Hollywood. That is so early for that. That's his whole character and that's what he did was. He just continued on that path like being torn between these two worlds. Neither of which he's very good at you. Yeah and plus like such an. Maybe it's because it's it's happened if you like so many times throughout like I you know i. I remember that other episode. Where kind of ends with Chris sitting out front of Tony's and he has to decide on like what he wants to do if he wants to be part of this life or just be gone so it does blend in a little bit so again I wasn't. I wasn't sure if it was this early. But yeah all the groundwork is there. Yeah and of course junior for sort of setting up the big season arc of him saying something. Maybe it has to be done about Tony. Big thing as well and I mean we always talk about the ducks. The ducks are fucked in in the first episode. But I mean if there's one like the most memorable thing from the pilot I would say is the ducks because it just comes up so much and it's like it's kind of the pay off towards the end of the episode..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"It's good to be in something from the ground floor. I came too late for that. I know but lately I'm getting the feeling that I came in at the end. The best is over many Americans. I think feel that America I right guys. Welcome my friends to cut to black a soprano. Sit Down My name is James. Campbell and I've seen every single episode of the Sopranos. My Name's Jerry. Boroughs and I've seen one episode up the Sopranos. Just kidding. I've seen eighty five of them. But you know if you're listening to this I you came in at the end. Best is already over. Please go back and re listen to our coverage of episode one of the Sopranos which we recorded literally two years ago. Jim Years Mad. Yes I was relisting. Knew a little of that. And we're like yeah. Wow we're going to be doing this through the rest of eighteen and then we're done or like we're kind of talking like how we'd be done and then I think you have a comment But what about twenty twenty when you're hearing it all in one go when the robots are there and it's like a holiday? Did we know a little? Did we know and you did? You did swear at the beginning of the first episode to only watch one a week and not go into the next episode two. We discussed it. We maybe had to Kinda cheat that a little bit. Sometimes sometimes we did have to record to a week just so we could stay ahead and not have so many breaks if we can go inside a little bit we fudge the numbers there though. I will say We've never done more than two and we. I don't think we've ever sure but I don't think we ever did like to that. Were at the end of the season you know always tried to like let me able to in the penultimate episode. Just as we're doing right now your recording this in anticipation of during the next episode on the final episode of the Sopranos. Yes yeah now before we get into anything I do WANNA we get another email here. I'd like to check in with from Brian. You can email us at shows what you know. Show at email dot com hope. You're hope you're doing well just wanted to take a moment and say how much I've been enjoying. Cut TO BLACK. As I've been a subscriber not too long after the initial few episodes as much as it is a bummer. That the show be wrapping up the next few weeks. I'm still very curious to get you. Guys take on the last couple of episodes one of those fans who have seen the show many times over the years and thankfully got into the show from my parents during the fourth season so I did have the luxury of experiencing it in real time regarding your walk like a man run down from last week a couple of weeks ago now but the episode walk like a Man. I never thought of the Christopher. Jt scenario like that essentially either either way. Jt was screwed. It seems like such a long time ago when Chris talking about him shooting. Jt The screenwriter. Yes yes when? Yeah when they were arguing I think because I made a comment that like Christopher probably would have killed him either way like even if like say he let him speak but then he had to spill his guts type deal and then later on he would have been like This guy's liability quick question. I've always believed this is genuinely Jacobs verse. Viewing I like almost like. We're trying to pull the wool. Or someone's is I know that they're actually people who haven't watched the Sopranos. I know it's weird. If you're listening to this podcast they might not seem to exist or the really annoying around you all the time like me. But yeah he says question. I've always believed this is genuinely Jacobs first viewing however has there been a major event that you spoiled spoiled ongoing in or from word of mouth new. What was eventually going to happen and I did. I did kind of ask you this in our very first episode and if I remember correctly I mean outside of the title which the title of our show is cut to black. That isn't a Torius. Sopranos thing What was your knowledge? Did you know anything No like looking at it now. I still haven't seen the last episode for looking at it all the like big events that Spring to mind like Chris Dying like most kids most of the big deaths like none of those were actually spoiled for me at all which is great as far as the ending. I still don't know how it's going to end. So that's good. I'm pretty sure Tony's going to die lying. Let's be real. It would make a lot of sense to kill Tony at the end of this and I also feels like because there was so much talking the talk about how the show cuts to black eye and especially the commentary recently about Jeevan. See it when it happens or whatever. I'm pretty sure the situation would be back when this was airing that Tony gets killed. And it's super obvious for anyone who watches the show and pays attention that that's exactly what the show tells you happens and then there's people online who go. Oh what is this character really dead? This doesn't resolve anything. It doesn't tell us what we need to know. When in fact the show probably definitely absolutely does that is my guest is understanding. Sopranos as I do and having the knowledge that it will end with the cut to black but still. I'm still just speculating. There I don't actually know so. The answer is no. I don't think anything's been majorly spoiled for me right. I I agree. It's great and I think it's been Fun kind of going along the ride with you. I'd we'd have to. We'll have to go back and I know a few times at the end of seasons or maybe some important episodes where you've made different predictions and it'd be interesting to see how those started out just looking at Sopranos as as just a standard. I don't mean that like in a bad way to standard. Tv shows but just as the standard TV show to learning how the Sopranos operates in more of their rhythm. And then how your predictions change? 'cause you know we've talked to many many at length about the anti-climax of the Sopranos and the way David Chase Kinda likes to go different routes with things in relation to what you'd expect but yeah let me see. Does he have anything else here? Keep up the good work guys and hopefully when you finish the series we'll still have some more surprised discussions coming here and there may be a listener. Qna talk while your favorite episodes season characters moments etc take care. That's Brian. Thank you so much for that email and yeah as he said if you WANNA send over any questions comments Reaction since we are coming up at the end we we can open it up more in discuss basically anything that we've watched all of it in general kind of look at it as a whole. I'm not even going to be a dead white tiny down anymore. Jim. You're able to say whatever you think. Yes yeah and yeah. I think we'll definitely try to have a few more things pop into the field like I personally am going to rewatch the Sopranos. And we're obviously not. I mentioned it before. I'm sure but like it would make sense for you and me to check back in and maybe talk about season one as a whole and season two as a whole and stuff like that with both of us being able to talk fully about show. So if you're interested in seeing that please I mean we're still. We're still trying to get reviews. So if you haven't reviews on Apple podcasts. And that'd be great and we. Hey I'm happy to keep talking about the Sopranos for as long as people WANNA listen. I I don't know it's I feel like I get better at not filmmaking. Because it's not practical like we're just analyzing it or whatever but it makes you think it's not like a lot of other shows out there where you just slowly get depressed by how show might be going or whatever like. I genuinely feel that. There's so much to dive into here. And why our PODCAST and other podcasts? Discussing the Sopranos still feel kind of relevant even like years and years after the show ended. Yes Yup and that actually Kinda ties in again. This is probably something will touch on all. It's definitely something we'll touch on again after. We discussed the finale because one of the questions I asked when we were just discussing the pilot is looking at a show like the Sopranos. I think I was even 'cause since I had you know I've mentioned on the show many times. I've watched like the first three seasons. I'd seen a bunch of times front to back a few times over and then for not as much and then like as you get later. I'd only seen those once and it wasn't so much I mean. Obviously New Sopranos is a great show. But it's hard to be like I'm going to rewatch show and it's going to drop in its season for drop in season five or whatever so this is like a great opportunity for me to go back and revisit it but I think I still even though I knew it was a great show. St still that hesitation because when you're introducing something to someone else because I remember talking to you about it and I was like I wonder how it'll play to a new viewer. In this current time of post breaking bad better call Saul other shows that have had anti heroes more like more of a landscape where TV. Or even. Like game of thrones where TV cinema now? And it's I you know we talk about peak TV. I wasn't sure if it would still have the same impact but now that we're one episode away from the end. What's your thoughts looking at it from like a now timeframe and not having that you know late nineties early two thousands. Nothing else is like this on TV. Yeah it's something that I guess I haven't thought about that much but getting to the end of it like especially re watching the first episode as we. Did you have to sort of imagine the time and imagine this coming out? And I can't imagine watching this when it was actually airing. I don't think I was ready. Jim I don't think my body was ready physically still going through puberty and I. I'm not sure it's a great question but it's also like a lot of those you mentioned are breaking bad's you know. Whatever game of thrones? You can argue. Television is more cinematic because there's bigger budgets and like television is more respected as a medium but still people tend to even in like breaking bad which is possibly my favorite show of all times one of my favorite shows of all time. We we have an anti hero but we still sort of build up and pay things off in ways that are very traditional where in Sopranos. I wouldn't say it's like the main thing but all the fuck us the David Chase gives us as these kind of negativeness and like what you want to watch your show. That's like this..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"The she may quick time. I've never gone except for that slight improvement around the shooting. She wasn't doing much good anyway. It was all her faults. Welcome my friends to cuts of Black Sopranos. Sit Down My name. Is Jim Scam? Polian? I've seen every single episode of the Sopranos. My Name's Jacob burroughs and I've seen all but one episode of the Sopranos citing Shiver Down my spine. This one though is called blue comet. It's episode twenty seasons six the penultimate episode. Jim Who put this episode together? This episode was written by series Creator and showrunner David Chase a with the help of Matthew. Winer also directed by Alan Taylor. Sopranos name stays names. We've heard many times. I do believe they say what this was chases. Twenty Ninth Writing Credit. I mean also creator of the show this is Matthew Weiner's twelfth and final. I'm not sure how many episodes Taylor directed although reading about it. It sounds like not to take anything away from Alan Taylor but it sounds like David Chase would sit him down and be like all right. We're going to do this this this and this all right go. I mean maybe that's just general for TV when we have a show runner Where you gotTa keep the tones in the look and everything like especially something like the Sopranos doesn't have widely different stylistic choices but it does seem like David Jay's got his hand in everything looks like he directed nine episodes being packed soprano but then there was a sort of break and he came in at one in season. Four one in five and then like loads and loads here in season six yes and You know hey where where we're getting there. We'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE END. So we got some action. Now we got some mob action. Are You satisfied? Are You satisfied? Talk in waiting sitting through this bullshit. Jim Doing this ship podcast. Wait for some fucking people to get God and finally it happens. Ultimate episode bid late. Bit Light if you're asking me I just I like the Sopranos just the way it is did I. Yes I did text you this one as well right you did. Yes because I've been sending messages alive reactions at times and this one was just. Fuck me this episode. Jim fucked me and I sent the screen shot of. Aj saying this is really depressing. Which is great because now I have that saved in my phone because that's just a good just mean image to us as response to things. It's accidentally set it as my desktop background. I guess what I haven't changed it since it's still in that mood. And before we get into the episode we did get an email you can send an email to shows which you know show at gmail.com from Brad. Here I heard your recent talk about Tony. Soprano doing peyote with the hottest woman on the show. I don't know if we deemed that. But I mean I guess yeah. She's she's one of the hottest women on the show was when I've done peyote before too. I was out in the mountains in Colorado lasted around thirty six hours. When the last thing she wanted to do is be in a casino too. Many people too loud too many lights. I know it's just a TV show. But Tony would've killed himself. If at least the nation's thirty six hours I really have the podcast and lifts I listened to every episode. Keep up the great work guys. Always nice to hear some personal experiences to what we're seeing on the show and I guess I guess it would make sense that it could last. I mean when you eat some like I mean. Obviously there's a lot of drugs. What like I mean. Drugs on the shell whether he's smoking weed or shooting up heroin or smoking crack or whatever but all equivalent legal and should be. D- just destroy them all the drugs. Go on well when you eat like an animal whether it be. I. Guess Peyote which I've never done but if you've eaten like marijuana edibles it does have a different effect and can last in your system for a longer time because it is like digesting. It's going through your body so I guess thirty six hours so yeah interesting take. I do think I mean Tony. I think everyone's trips going to be a little different to Tony. He doesn't want to be in the mountains of Colorado. He wants to be in that Hell Casino. Because he's GonNa he's GonNa think he's in heaven for some reason always yeah well and especially when he went though he did. It seem to enjoy it better. When he was out looking at the sun and that area trash donal though and I'm still impressed they drove there. I don't know if I mentioned but like it's just there and I'm like okay. I just drove their great shout. Yeah I can't imagine a Lotta drugs. That would be great for your Casino Times. I guess except Coke and wonderful drug or alcohol. Yeah because yeah very general all the flashing lights and stuff. I find it much when I'm not on moves at. Yeah it's very stimulating. I WANNA call it real quick at the top of the show. I mean we'll probably mentioned at the end of this episode as well that The next episode before rediscussed the finale. We will revisit the pilot. So we'LL BE DISCUSSING THE PILOT NEXT. And then getting into the finale so just a nice little bonus for you. I'd say we want to take a look at the beginning before we get to the end. And you know like we had mentioned in a previous episodes will still probably be doing other things whether it be revisiting certain episodes or I think we might want to take a look at some of the other works of David Chase James GonNa Fini Gangster movies in general or things that kind of sopranos adjacent and maybe discuss them in relation to the Sopranos. So you can get rid of US quite yet but yes. It's very exciting that. We're so close to the finale. Yeah it obviously won't be a weekly thing. Yes fair some listeners might say is it even now a weekly thing fair okay. We've had a couple of breaks. Get off her back but but we will definitely pop some things in here from time to time in this. Podcast feed so. Don't don't go scrubbing your pod. Captured just yet keeps on there. See what might come at. You see what you might enjoy but anyway this episode Jim. There's Oh sorry one one other quick thing I do want kyle at tweeted at US shutouts Kyle. And he did say we're was it. We gotta find our next re re watch though because we're almost done so I do. Welcome you kyle for whatever we go in the future. Come along the ride with us and you of you dear listener. Also if you have suggestions things that shows that we should get into either shoots review cut to black or send us an email. It shows you know show. Gmo Dot com absolutely and you can always find more coverage all sorts of rights at shows which DOT COM so smaller rides. Most of them were. We discuss Show was just an episode or two but you know we cover things like the marvelous Mrs Nasal and strange things and game of thrones. But we don't talk about games anymore because nobody does and nobody likes. But we know it's there if you want to revisit it so lots of stuff going on but Jim. I'm eager to get into this episode. Yes yes let's get down to it and opens with good old whacking right. We haven't seen one of those in a while. I guess maybe we have seen some nuts. It's true and I will say this is the amount of times that the Sopranos has made me double check that I'm on. The right. Episode is just tried and true method of dropping. You in the middle of something but like to this point. I'm like who is this guy. What's happening Silvio killing this guy? I'm guessing that I'm supposed to have that feeling of like I'm supposed to put these together and I'm pretty much do like I just assume this is a guy who's too friendly with New York or whatever but still I have that moment which is always great because it means the show is trusting you to jump a step further than you expected to and for you to keep up. Yeah I was reading about the production of this episode. They do mention that. There's a deleted scene where this guy is more like properly introduced. I mean there's a line later on. We're tow like when he when Silvio goes to. Tony does mention that he was getting too close New York. But I guess there was more of a thing about this guy was trying to recruit Silvio because he was also basically feeding information to New York. But they're like fuck it. We'll just drop right in and yeah just just like trust the audience to go with it. And you'll pick up the context later on as the episode continues. Yeah and as far as like openings it starts with that and then immediately we have the meeting with Phil and is too. I guess his number two and number three in the same way. That sill and Bobby are Tony's number two and three and he talks through what they're gonNA do about the defied crew and I love. The one of his objections is like when they when they make someone over there. Don't even have like a sword. And sceptre whatever the fuck that's his objection like they don't but no respect for the rules and I don't have confirmation on this but I imagine it's very similar to there's that tale of how a real mafia don mentioned to one of the writers David Chase or something because they saw that. Tony was wearing shorts in one of the episodes. And he's like a don doesn't wear shorts and they use that line in the show. I feel like they had that. Christopher episodes showed him getting made and someone who was really like. Oh man this is all wrong and then they were like. Let's work that in. It's even a thing that New York thinks is lame. I mean again. I don't have confirmation but I just have a feeling that maybe that's from a real place somewhere. Yeah so. They're doing a bit of arguing about what to do. And Phil says forget this. Forget where it's still like Anthony. Soprano has no respect for this thing and they're saying takeout takeout management and they'll just absorb the whole thing and I guess the weird thing is we've been with the Sopranos for so long that it's like maybe they are glorified career. What will happen if these guys are taking out? We've seen so many characters drop anyway. The basically Bobby Sill Antonio gone. I don't feel like there's loads of characters with enormous loyalty to them or just going to go. Now Fuck yes. Maybe they're right. I don't know what do you think? Yeah Yeah I mean because Chris has already gone because I mean he not that he was like management but he would have been like a wild a wild card. Because even you know despite Christie's troubles being junkie he was always ready to get the scarface. Final scene fucking bazookas under each shoulder. He would he would be a liability. Paulie and you have to imagine polly's loyal but yeah. If they were just gone he would also think about his survival. He would probably fall in line so yeah it does make sense a quote from this scene. That's people bring up a lot like just in Sopranos Reddit and facebook and stuff is when Phil says. I'm going to say a couple of three things just a fun. Fill thing that he says. Let me tell you a couple of three things. I like his line. That's like there's five fucking families then we got this other pygmy thing over in Jersey. I'm still like trying to understand why he means I guess it's small. It's a small thing so and also says there's no scraps in my scrapbook long lines and right now we come to see the do they say here. They're gonNA take them all out within twenty four hours or whatever we have this setup right. I believe so. Yeah I mean he does mention he does mention kind of like we're Phil's coming from does make sense because he brings up kind of these past misgivings by the soprano or the demeo crime. Family technically Because what we had fat dom who Silvio and Carlo stabbed to death and then made them disappear then of before. That of course was Phil's brother Billy which was handled but you know not handled to his liking Tony wouldn't give up his cousin and then of course we had cocoa not too long ago So you know things have been brewing and yeah I do believe it's I mean there's still kind of a question because there's that one guy why don't know his name and he's just kind of like You Know War. What are you talking about? We're GONNA do take out a boss you serious but of course Bucci Kasese the new Phil and Phil was the new Johnny. And so on so of course. But she's like let's do it. We'RE GONNA go for it. Yep Yep so Starting another story for this episode we have AJ in his recovery place in the hospital which is basically the set of. It's kind of a funny story where they have a quirky romance and like the mental ward. Which is what. They're having here now because he goes up to. This girl asks if she's still hangs out with her son so I guess she may have been around there. I don't know if she was actually on the show or not but maybe she was one of the one saying silly things about his dad or whatever or maybe not yeah. I can't remember either. I assume it's pro. She probably wasn't in those scenes in one thing. WanNa say is like I think this show. We've been very pro. Aj in you know in comparison especially to a Lotta Sopranos opinions and podcast discussions. Whatever but I am kind of an agreement at this point when there's only two episodes laughed I'm not interested in. Aj meeting a new. Like if it feels so late for something like this to kind of happen and again i. I don't even really remember where this goes. Or what the pay office so I am in new ground but my initial thought watching this. I'm like come on man. Things are heating up although its put also. I should be trained at this point because this is very sopranos to be like ooh wars brew in New York remember. We've been doing this for three years. What's Aj up to? What's WHO's this girl he's meeting. Let's learn about her to be fair..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"Yeah yeah no totally because I do. I like that. I mean especially with the recent release of El Camino breaking bad movie. Yeah it's it reminded me of the stark contrast between something like the Sopranos breaking bad both great shows and like easy shows to compare because the anti heroes in kind of subject matter they deal with but obviously breaking breaking bad is a very plot driven show and like obviously obviously. There's a lot of great character stuff but Sopranos is clearly not interested in that it's not interested in like the XYZ almost like video game type you know we got to get this thing and then get that gets this thing and that but that lends to more excitement intention and then sopranos does does that in a different way. Because it's like he adds. It's it's obviously more character driven because not not so much because like they focus on it. It's because they're not interested in having regular setup and payoff type stuff stuff like sometimes they are. Sometimes they aren't they're more interested in like fucking with your head on what you think is going to happen and then playing around with it but like giving giving you something that you really want still. I don't know it's it's a weird back and forth and I'm definitely not to get into this argument with shows. Better type deal all but like going through going through this show again it kind of does solidify more. My head has like the best show ever made. It was good. I think shows that go. This route are more. They lend themselves better to Arri rewatch as well. Yeah because breaking bad once you know what happens. It's not as bad as game of thrones where once you know what happens. It's like Oh okay. Sit through all of this. They still make it exciting even honoree watch. Yes but in the Sopranos. They're more interested in exploring the emotional depths and depths and connections of the characters. And that's something you're going to be able to see different things from different parts in your life you can identify with the different characters and journeys and you got some mob stuff thrown in there for good measure to so it's really a great cocktail blend. That's like I think that's why. There's there's loads of podcasts on it I don't think you and me would do a bad breaking bad podcast but we would like we'd be discussing like can you believe how well they put this together to make this effect happened in your brain you. Can you believe the camera work. It's fantastic and these stylistics destroys and here. It's Kinda like what did you feel about this part of this. I'd like it's not super clear in what it wants you to feel all the time and David Chase's famously like fuck you. I'm not going to tell you I'm not. I'm not telling you what to feel or think about it or maybe sometimes I am just this keeping it keeping that ambiguity going so yeah very different shows. I was thinking of breaking bad as well when I was ranting about like waiting for the last season a breaking bad your I collegiate can't believe with finally GonNa find out and now I'm Kinda like I'm not like that but I also don't want it to end. Yeah I think. Game Game of thrones is even though it's obviously different types show but that's a great comparison of like just you know because breaking bad. Obviously one of the greatest shows ever remade as well but it's because they delivered also like they set things up a certain way but they were always able to to deliver. I mean obviously people have their own complaints nitpicks here and there. But game of thrones yes which is a show I did watch for leading up to the last season and a Not to be that person. Because everyone shits game thrones now but there's still obviously great stuff in there. It's still worth a rewatch and whatnot. But there's a lot of it that does feel like okay. We're GONNA get through this. Okay we're GONNA get through this and then hopefully there's this and then it gets the annual. We're all done. We don't need this anymore. Yeah see later so tempted to re watch it. which is sad? Because I still have like I Dan. Madonna should have made more videos. About game of thrones. It's the most popular thing I I know. We've probably talked about it here. But it's the most popular thing I've ever put online. Video about. Game of thrones what I made and and you can find it out on my great transition Jacob. You can find it on my youtube channel. Awesome pedia you can also find more for me at awesome pedia Dot Org but yeah I should have made way more videos about that when people actually cared. But then I already didn't really care and I felt like I said what I needed to and I wanted to be more of a David Chase ambiguous guy. It just kind of is like fuck you. I never made any videos on it but I should have but now it's too late. Nobody cares but I think a sopranos video. I would love to make AAC now or in the future or in the past like there's always more to Get Out of the show. Yeah completely I agree so yeah we're gearing up to to get into the final nine we. There are a few things throughout this discussion. I mean it was a long one. It was longer than the episode but Like we called up before if you have your thoughts or feelings on some of the stuff we talked about. You can email chose what you know. Show at gmail.com I did get or was that a tweet because I think there was something recently. We got on the Sopranos. I think it was kind of some weird nitpick we'd had or something something we had read in a different. Oh Vito I actually yeah shit. We should got this at the beginning. But I've always thought that veto killed the guy after the accident because he's driving drunk whenever problem when the cops eventually showed up to the scene of the accident and joining the podcast as usual. That's Dan from Vermont. That does make sense but it's still like killing him or just like I duNno. Smashed them back to the head or something. He could've done something else if it was more worrying about the Dui that he's GonNa get he could just knocked him out and then drove away the same way. Yeah Yeah I get that. Oh I guess yeah my issues with always more about like the choice of having that scene in in there rather than the choice that he made if that makes sense yeah that does make more sense than we were. We were going into picking that scene at the time. So that's valid feedback uh-huh. Yeah so we'll be back very soon with the rest of the Sopranos until then as I've already plugged my shit but you can.
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"As you know philosophy will ranges meeting after the fire and his wife Evelyn Correction. You asked me to fuck and attend. I agreed fair enough. Now we'll call it sit down because of the inclement negative implications. Let's think of it as a meeting of minds. Yes welcome my friends to a cut to black a sopranos meeting of minds. My name is Jim Scam. Paulie I've seen every episode of the Sopranos. My Name is Jacob Burroughs Varos and I've seen seventy seven episodes of the sopranos the most recent being the season Finn. Now now. It's just a middle of the season episode. That happens to mark the split between seasons six six yes indeed at episode twelve year of Season Six. But who put this thing together Jim Yeah. This episode was She just had it or the hearing it was written by Terence Winter David Chase in Matthew wigner and it was directed by longtime director. Alan Taylor I will say I want to say up jump is that I do not like this episode interesting interesting. Yeah I I. I liked the episode but as a season finale. It's kind of different but also it isn't the season finale. Yeah and I think that's what's is in my head is I can't not think of it as I mean they describe it as a midseason finale and I just can't think of it that way like even though. Oh you know. We live in the days now. The Sopranos has done. I could sit and watch it straight through for a week or whatever if I wanted to but I can't help like like since we're doing this discussion doing podcast and we do break it up as we watch them. I can't help but think about it that way. Because this Air June fourth the two thousand six I think it was like another year. Roughly till the next Sopranos episode. And maybe I'm just thinking about what I initially watched it because I completely really forgot this episode and then Oh yeah this is why because it does make sense as just a regular I mean. It's the Sopranos episode. It feels like one of those sopranos episodes. That all right you know. Hey that's no harm. No foul we got another one coming up We're in the middle of the season. It's setting some stuff but I don't know I mean. The next episode has aired April eight thousand seven so not quite a year but close to it And I just. I can't can't disconnect that in my head and I can't not judge it that way because People WanNa talk about the episode Christopher as being the worst episode of the Sopranos. That's the Columbus one. But Yeah I don't know I put this close to it in my opinion if not maybe not maybe maybe even not. I'm not saying this is the worst episode of the Spanish us because even and even if I was the worst of the broncos still great episode of television but I feel this is one of the worst episodes Sopranos. Am I wrong am I crazy. Tell me I'm crazy. Well I think you're crazy but is that just because of that inability to separate being a season finale or is it just you just plain don't like the content of the episode. I guess it's a little of both because it feels very meandering and I know Sopranos is like data lot. And they're pushing the I mean and Sopranos is about it's got all all the makings of a Sopranos Varsity athlete in this episode. Because you gotTa Classic anti-climax With New York and fill But then at the same time they're brewing something else with this new guy. We're seeing What's his name butch where it's like? Oh well he's the new dangerous guy like he's the new phil kind of because if like at least for how we re left here with this episode we think maybe Phil might be a little different next time we see him. We've got a lot of change Jim. Don't change and AJ defender but we got a lot of AJ here. And I don't know it's not. Rub Me the right way. Having we got a thing that's been going on that we haven't seen which I don't mind with Chris and Juliana Eliana like a thing. That's been happening that we haven't seen but it has been going on It also has a weird like I guess going back to the stylistic thing that you didn't liketh veto a few episodes ago we've got this overlay extended sequence that. I did not like get all Jim. They're doing drugs. That means you need to put where it effects on it. Yeah so I don't know maybe I'm being too hard on again because then and then again like the Cherry on top OP is. I'm looking at it as a finale so I don't know it's still get some stuff. There's some there's some meat there but I mean even the soprano sessions book when I'm reading it. They're like wow yeah. This is kind of really rough guys. Well that's interesting. I personally only. I felt just kind of in the way that the anticlimax and other parts of it it had the makings of Sopranos Finale. Like I was actually getting some some finale vibes in it. But it's also not like a great finale necessarily but in the way that usually in the penultimate episodes some shit it goes down and you think like you know it's going to be a big thing and then the last episode. It's not bad at all. It's something different that's very classic. We should also also mentioned. I know we. We have mentioned before when he did pass away but the episode is direct dedicated to John Patterson who has directed every season and finale for the first five seasons and he he passed away after the fifth season. So I I'm not saying we're losing the magic touch with him not being there but like obviously he. We've been pretty positive on every season finale previously and this is hampered not only by being not an actual season finale and all the factors you mentioned but also it's like it's a weird position for any episode to be in because it's like it's finale but it's also building momentum for the end Lindland Mike we after this may only have nine episodes left so that wouldn't even technically be a full season any way. So if you do enough if you do too big of a finale here is I'm GonNa take away from the final finale. There's all these considerations but all in all I didn't Dislike it the way he did it all. Yeah yeah and I know like it's it's Ah it's even like I said even pointing out flaws and saying I disliked it's still an episode of Sopranos. It still it still topped TV. So I don't WanNa get that twisted I I you know I like. It's not like I would ever be like fuck this or something. It's just you know comparing it. The Sopranos not comparing it to other. TV shows you know what I mean And get yeah and and I like going back because I mean you kind of mentioned before we started recording like asking talking about the decision to split the season which it is interesting that then they did it like with breaking bad and like other shows do a similar thing where they do the split season. There's like different reports now in the David Chase Interview in the soprano session. He completely says that he looks at season. Sixty seven that's what he says and that HBO Did it as a split season. Six say season six B because then they would have to renegotiate contracts for a new season and people would have to people would have had to have been paid more basically so as more of a business decision decision and in his mind he completely looks at it. As a DEF- different season. I think as we watch it. I don't know if I fully will believe that as they play out it it probably will feel like more of a single season because there are other reports online. All of these are just people on read it so who knows well. Who Do we even chaser? People on ready yet to be fair. Chase does Kinda like like to lie. It feels like yeah people on it so is that you know because people are saying. That was an originally planned season six. It'd be one final season but as the writing progressed chase found he had an abundance of material and ask for an extension of more episodes. Hbo Approved in the decision was made to defy the defied it and presented as such with chase taking extra time to plot out And film the exact road to the end so like I feel like there's some truth to that because you know like if you look at these release states and how the show played out there's long breaks before again that's another. That's another trend. Sopranos kind of started where they just take long breaks between seasons. So I I could totally up your right. Yeah microphone took a shit about a run for back. I'm so alive all right. Yeah yeah that's an effective way to shut you up Jim. Yeah yeah now. I think there's truth to both of those. Yeah you can still see them as separate seasons but that makes total sense even just imagining. Imagine right like imagine writing the last season of the sopranos like looking around in the writer's room going like we got to end this thing Yeah thirteen episodes and then thrown thrown out all these ideas and you probably got way too much meandering. And this and that and anti-climax us and like are you ever going to like everything you try to writes almost all the time ends up being longer than you want it to be so it makes perfect sense that sort of process as well and then adding this in so I guess I see it but I also see your point of how how this episode could have suffered from it. I'm shall we start going through the beats of the episode. Well I want to point out one thing again. This is all conjecture. I didn't 'cause I just I just saw this before. We started recording. Some sure this is a lot of gossip and I'll have to research this further or listeners. Out there if you kind of know more details if this this is complete bullshit or if there's true to this just emails it shows what you know show gmail.com because one guy says I forget which season but one of them was delayed aide by nearly a year hold on one second One of them was delayed by nearly a year to Gandolfini mental issues. He disappeared disappeared for weeks and Or something and he staggered into a random New York City barbershop and called the production office speaking gibberish. And they sent some people go get him and he was all messed up in the head and then the response to that is I believe that was season six eight. That was delayed for this reason..
"sopranos" Discussed on Cut To Black: A Sopranos Sitdown
"The minute i met tony i knew who that guy was on my second date he brought me and my mother each a dozen roses and my father a two hundred dollar power drill not the typical story of young love and i don't know if i loved him in spite of it or because welcome my friends to soprano cut to black soprano seatown. Oh my goodness my name. Is jim scam paulie. I've seen every episode of the sopranos. My name's jacob burroughs and i've seen sixty eight episodes of the sopranos at sixty eight hours of your life. You're never gonna get back jacob because he spent watching amazing show and then another sixty eight hours or so discussing it what good choices we make in life much like tony soprano or should i say kevin finnerty. Oh my god he's back. Yes oh sorry who made this though this one was written by matthew wine or the creator of madman also directed by jack bender originally aired march twenty six ext two thousand and six. I believe i looked up. Let me see jack bender. I don't know if he directed any other episode. Of course he did yeah. He directed the episodes in season three and season four and last last week. We talked about how we had a game of thrones director. This fellow also directed a couple episodes game the thrones notably the door memorable and sewed and blood of my blood episodes five and six of season six or whatever hey t._v. People they all look alike to me. They'll direct fantastic shows and make amazing things and just talk about them. Never make anything here. We are season six while he makes magic jake with door in this episode as well so i think it was all a setup for that game of thrones so you go now before we get into it. I asked you last week if we'd seen the last of kevin finnerty and as you are now aware we had not seen the last of kevin finnerty yet which is kind of like infinity right kevin finnerty in don't even try so now what are your thoughts of seeing more of kevin finnerty even though it's it's definitely scaled back from in comparison to the previous episode i mean my first reaction was jeez more with this shit and maybe maybe it's because of the way they cut it where it's like. Carmela comes in and sits there sits down and then it's like slow and then it cuts and then like we're going to do this more <hes>. It's going to be more of this a lot more. Maybe as it wasn't excited about it because i like it made sense like looking back on the episode. It makes total sense to me what they did especially the bay where he liked transitions out into the real world again that was really nice but then like having him go to the buddhists and and and all this stuff. I was not excited for it. It started feeling more like a dream sequence for the sake of it but again made perfect sense in the context context the episode still yes yeah i mean there is a lot in this episode. Yeah especially with the monks of you know. You need to take responsibility. You need to face the consequences. I mean they do have a comment of like you know when he's saying i'm not kevin finnerty in there like you know. Who's that tree. You know. We're not anyone in the grand scheme of things. Are we but i still. I still really love it. I love all the kevin finnerty stuff. It is the thing that talking about like some of the phantom. I've been bringing that up here and there i have seen a lot of people say that they i always skip the kevin finnerty stuff and they can't stand it or whatever but i love it. I think it's great last week. I loved it and now mike cool. Where's the mob stuff so i guess i'm transitioning into while we do get a shitload of mob sheep darts off immediately with mob stuff. I kind of feel like absolutely not sorry to cut job. That's why i was like cool. We're back in back to mob stuff. I think i was like the ricochet back into kevin furniture because last time it was like we start with kevin and we're going through it and then it's this and this mob stuff and it scheming and i like all that stuff but like the jumping back and forth or like oh now i have to care about this metaphor and this conversation that has no relevance to the real world only to like his psyche and everything and again. It was was actually all fine but i i did have a knee jerk reaction that have like all right kevin. We're still now this now. What about this quote from david chase where he says that <hes> frankly frankly. I would not call those dreams now. Do you is like as far as sopranos in like the spiritual side of sopranos it does this show kind of take a stance that there is like a purgatory and heaven and hell like what's your read on that you could though i think last episode i'll something similar i mean last cut the black i said something like in these dreams i dunno in this coma state like is it. Although i was more along the lines of it's not really the dream because he's not asleep like he's you know i would agree with that and i think the show is kind of doing it. I think it's in his head but it has like the real life is affecting what's happening in their two degree where i feel like it has more meaning than <hes> just any old dream. Do you think david chase's saying yes. This is definitely the space between heaven and hell or do you think he's just being david chase. <hes> i mean he might not be confirming purgatory but i do think at least in the realm of this show that yeah i think spiritually originally tony soprano is somewhere and <hes> at least i got. I don't know if he's in his real life. He thinks that there's heaven hell and purgatory but i think in the a show that this is more than just a dream. It's interesting because obviously the show deals a lot with death <hes> <hes> but most of it is more along the lines of you know like when paulie walnuts went to the psychic and the psychic knows stuff that he shouldn't know or whatever and you can kind of explain it away. The show wants to give you this sense of like you know maybe like so this is like an extended version of that in a way when he keeps seeing gloria and all its left open to interpretation which i i also also appreciate and i feel like david chase. We'll just say whatever is almost the most controversial or annoying anyone trying to interpret his work anyway. This is <hes> <hes> but yeah i mean in my mind the way i view the world and this shell it's just a dream but it's a different type of dream. Because it's a coma dream uh-huh that's the only extra layer in my mind and that it's like yeah of course because he's raised catholic so but i i do think at least from the stance of the show i feel like i feel like in the in the world of the sopranos which is obviously you know grounded and very much like our own world except you know you murder people in in broad daylight and beat them up and nothing happens to you but i feel like this show has a stance that hell exists in tony's going there and that may disagree agree well yeah at least when he's on the cusp shoe disagree and i feel like this is the universe potentially really giving tony soprano another chance and could he learn from this and maybe will he make changes in his life from here but i mean right that's yet to be seen going back to what i adventure in last week that this was inspired by john patterson <hes> <hes> who was in one of the main directors he directed all the finales of the sopranos before season six inbetween season five seasons sixty did pass away <hes> <hes> and i guess it's kinda tight end when he talks about i frankly would not call those dreams inspiring many theories about tony potentially actually moving through purgatory or some other section of the afterlife <hes> asks now about those episodes chase says alternate universes now. I have no proof that's what i consider them as an artist something spiritual what's happening with kevin finnerty. It wasn't the same as in the test dream the sequence inspired by chases longtime friend john patterson who directed many episodes of the series before dying of cancer in two thousand and five and at one point is cancer fight patterson found himself in the hospital little muttering the same words who am i. Where am i going <hes> chase would then put them out. <hes> put that into the mouth of both tony <hes> and kevin finnerty in the alternate tune it reality the way my mind work mind worked shay says i wondered what he was seeing when he said that that line between dream and reality and death and sleep and all latte. I'm into that whole thing so but you're right. I do feel like he does kind of like to stoke. The fires and i mean stoke the discussion. I know we've mentioned before that. He probably hates the discussion but i think deep down inside. He loves the we're discussing broncos. Yeah i think it might also be. I don't know if it's like a different different setting in your brain where i maybe it's my world view or something that lets me not be that interested in dream sequences 'cause i like. That's some bullshit that it's and the similar if it's like unclear whether it's having her hell again i oh i did like the last episode a lot and i was trying to put my finger on it. As we were discussing it. It reminds me of like barton. Fink coen brothers in general enron but maybe specifically like being trapped in a weird hotel and like you're a different person and pardon feelings in general but the real question we have to ask yourselves. Jim are recalling this perga- theory every that he's in purgatory or recalling it perga- tony because it's his own personal personal purgatory question. I think you could say either one honestly so i'm like i'm like in perga- tony myself because it sounds like rigi. Get tony like food. Sorry everyone hashtag in your responses here hashtag perga- theory perga- tony and rigatoni at <hes> this shows what you know on twitter. That's the letter you. I was trying to find because i like what you're bringing up about like disliking dream sequences in chase kind of talks about that a bit like just like dream sequences are fools who have no bearing on this reality or the next okay yeah here. It is he. This is is from david chase when they're talking about because even allen seven wall at at ask them like there's definitely a segment of the audience who just wants a mob show show they wanna whacking the week an asshole du jour anytime you steer too far away from that. They said this is not okay. There's now we signed up for <hes> even though the very first scene of the shows in a psychiatric office now are psychiatrist's office now. I think that's a little bit too dismissive because i mean it still is a mop show and i get there is like an audience for for that but what david says you know what it must be about the audience resistance dreams and stuff like that it's like you're presenting me a fictional world and i buy into the fictional world old i know it's not real and now you're telling me that there's a world beyond that so if i buy into that fictional world <hes> now you're telling me to go to some other level then it means what's gone before is not real and i want to think what's gone before israel so video because he's like otherwise. What am i watching this for. I've got to believe it. I think that's fair. I mean he's just kinda saying yeah like because we're already buying into tony soprano and now we have to be like well what about tony's dreams and hopes and then what about if tony is someone else and yeah. We're going inception layers. He's here deeper and deeper into the mind of some of these already fake while david chase is jade is because i've never been able to put my finger on that and i think it does it exactly why don't love a dream sequence where i'm like. You already sold me on this. I'm in it's. I'm believing in it and then you like even in my real life. If i wake up from a dream that's particularly intense and it lingers in my mind i'm like why am i feeling this way. I don't understand it and a- and then you just shove it from your mind and then it's like oh. No i need therapy what you need to explore your.
"sopranos" Discussed on The Complete Guide to Everything
"I'll tell you what big boys. Don't do. They don't single like that for God's sake. You know, it's fine. Like I like the rest of the four seasons. It's Frankie Valli. Yeah. Right. It's it's it's it's greasy mic screeching. So over there. Screech our baytown them what they don't what they shouldn't do and how they should walk. And he's like, Tony. Maybe fry Frankie should take some of his own advice in walk and talk like a man. Yeah. That'd be a start anyway. Yeah. He's he's on it. But like earlier they talk about the they like name check in the lot. And then and then they have these weird. Shopping around a lot here, but everybody's seen. But nobody in the thing. What's Frankie Valli characters? Name. Do you? Remember, I don't know. I can look it out as like little Donny or something. Yeah. He's very very tangential. But they he's he's actually part of the New York crew part of the Philly Attardo operation mistaken. But still you think, you know, just just as much as a Lola side between two guys a even notice that a little Donnie looks a lot like Frankie Valli. That's all you need. Yeah. I mean, they're deleted scene. I've been watching the sopranos a lot of induna rewatch. I would hope so for doing an episode on it. I've been dragging my wife through her. I watch of it. You're carmella. Yeah. The Carmella to your Tony was here's the thing. She's into deep. She can't get out. She she hates my guts. If nothing else. Run for the hills. I guess what? She's accustomed to the lifestyle. Sometimes she'll find yourself defending might deplorable behaviour, and she knows too much. She does not much, but. You know, just as Tony would never do anything to Carmella. How would never do anything to my wife Carmella? That's also her name. And it's very romantic what a romantic sentiment. Yeah. So no, she likes it. Now. She f first she was a little skeptical. I don't think everybody's like oh the first season of the sopranos is so great. Yeah. Watch the sopranos, Tom. It's been a while. Like, I've I've like maybe caught some of it like flipping channels on a while. And I'll watch like a scene or to like, you know, completely out of order. Yeah. Only if they're in the strip club only in New York now because usually if I catch it it'll be on like TBS or something. So it'll be like all strangely Croft. For a for a while. Right. Something like that. Yeah. That was weird. And there's a lot of adult stuff in there. Yeah. What was the thing there? There was something that they say a lot that they had to chain Gabu. No. Purse word that the chain. Fuck what do they say that? Now it was. But it was like some kind of phrase that they use a lot that they had to be like like get the fuck outta here to be like, a don't you? Go home had to change it who what maniac would watch the censored sopranos somebody who has a problem with cuss words, but wants to be up to date on things they were popular twenty years ago. That's true. Yes. So the the the first season a lot of people are like, oh, yeah. You know, that's the pinnacle. That's the story of mobster who hates his mom. Right. Finally, what we wanted. Yeah. It's like, hey, I come to this show for the the mother the issues with mother figures. Well, that's a big Italian American trope. Right. I mean, you're not led to save. I'm saying it's a troop not that. It's true. But in in stories that does drive a lot of it's not that not that all Italian American boys eight their mother, but that they have, you know, an interesting relationship with their mile are mama's boys, for example. Right. Created by David chase. Tom. Would you say Tony's a momma's boy? A momma's boy that wants to rebel. But can't know he's he loves his, mama. No, he openly hates his mom from from from jump street. That's a different show. Oh across is over at some point. And no, John. Johnny Depp, never makes an appearance. Johnny Depp, never shows up at age as high school. Oh, man this..
"sopranos" Discussed on The Complete Guide to Everything
"On Home Box Office, the Home Box Office a box office right in your home. Did we do the intro? Yeah. I said, Tim, maybe there's a second week in a row we've asked if we've done. Got the memory of frigging goldfish. Here's the thing we recorded at your apartment now. Yeah. And as soon as I walk in you're you're you're basically pouring alcohol down my throat. You get me in a headlock. You've had one beer. Yeah. That's hardly pouring. I've been here for forty seconds. I told you that the first one was gonna go bad yet to drink a quick, we'll get to the sopranos in a minute. But what's a beer Bong is just a funnel with the tube on it. Yeah. Think so they can say contraption to smoke a beer. No. I know. It's not a smoking beer thing. Because I don't think you can smoke beer who smoked beer, I've had smokey flavored beers. I hate smokey flavored anything. Yeah. Right. Like, I don't like smoke. Why do I want somebody? That's why I don't like most scotches. Yeah. Right. It's like I like whiskey a lot. But then it's like we took this whiskey, and we left it in a house fire and now drink it tastes, delicious tastes like smoke. The thing you try to void breathing that. And you know, what else? I freaking can't stand up frigging smoothed smoke. Smoked smoked paprika. Yeah. Like als lever stinks. Yeah. I mean, I do like. Things that like foods that are actually smoked like I'll like some of those sometimes, but I don't like anything. Yeah. Like anything like liquid smoke like now, I get out of here. Get it out of here. That's not something that the protagonist. If you can call them that the anti hero at the center of the sopranos. Tony soprano would say he likes smoking cigars. Yeah. He takes his cigars smoked. Thank you. Yeah. Alrighty smoked all the way through he'd like to be the ones smoking them. Yeah. How would you like your sugar ready to be smoked, please? Does if you say smoke somebody's just gonna hand you a cigar? But you're again do at this. Yeah. You rub it in someone's face who you want to it's still on. Yes, respect. Yeah. Yeah. Even you know, it's still like I got. Yeah. Hey, what are you disrespecting me? The sopranos Tom came into our homes and into our hearts in in nineteen ninety nine on the Home Box Office. And since then there's been a lot of discussion about the the the jersey boys as they were. They're not the jersey, boys. They well. I'll tell you one thing. Tom Frankie Valli plays a character on the sopranos seasons. Doesn't play Frankie Valli though. No. So does Frankie Valli exists in the soprano moves Dios because earlier in the series run talk about I mean, obviously, the four seasons come up all the time prior when they're talking about like how much they hate rap music, right? And how people should walk like a man and talk a man in. Sometimes if they see like an adult woman crying, you know, what they say big girls don't cry. And then of course, that song place, man. I hate those jersey. I think it's been a while. But..