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Intel’s unfixable chip flaw could give hackers access to encrypted data

Techmeme Ride Home

01:44 min | 4 months ago

Intel’s unfixable chip flaw could give hackers access to encrypted data

"An unfixable flaw in nearly all intel chips released in the last five years has been discovered that allows sophisticated attackers to access the mask Rom. A piece of the chip. That boots the very first piece of CSM. Firmware and the vulnerability can't be patched with a FIRMWARE UPDATE. Quoting ARS TECHNICA. The flaw resides in the converged security and management engine a subsystem inside. Intel. Cpu's and Chipsets. That's roughly analogous to Ares. Platform security processor often abbreviated as CSM. This feature implements the firmware base trusted platform module used for silicon based encryption authentication of U. E. F. I. Bios firmware Microsoft System Guard and bit locker and other security features. The bug stems from the failure of the input output memory management unit which provides protection preventing the militias modification of static random access memory to implement early enough in the firmware boot process. That failure creates a window of opportunity for other chip components such as the integrated sensor hub to execute malicious code. That runs very early in the BOOT process. With the highest of system privileges quote this vulnerability jeopardizes everything until has done to build the root of trust and lay a solid security foundation on the company's platform. Mark Emmer lead specialist of hardware security at security firm positive technologies wrote any post detailing the bug quote. The problem is not only that it is impossible to fix firmware errors that are hard coded into the Mask Rom of microprocessors and chipsets. The larger worry is that because this vulnerability allows a compromise at the hardware level. It destroys the chain of trust for the platform as

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Now with More Regional Sports Network Fees!

Marketing Over Coffee

07:38 min | 4 months ago

Now with More Regional Sports Network Fees!

"We are here February middle of quarter. I don't know it seems like there's quite the hangover from end of year. Things have been kind of quiet even on the news. Front to there wasn't a ton of stuff But you had when you're looking at supposedly a lot of angst on the weather maps about changes to Google search results. Yes search engine. Watch and search engine. Roundtable were saying that There was a pre substantial rankings. Jumping around few days ago that lasted for almost a week. Which is unusual for them. These days made no statement about algorithm changes but a lot of webmasters are noticing rankings. In placements jumping up and down a lot of changes and it has settled down since then so the evergreen reminder is if you haven't logged into your search console lately now it'd be a good time to do it and see if it particularly if there are certain pages that you see a massive amount of volume just vanish from might be time to go and figure out why you got wacked in the knees or those yeah and get back on base that. Dr Pye had shared an article talking about The zero box you know at the at the top were snippets shop there and that's actually now being considered one of the ten posts but the more interesting than that was over on the right side. Where sometimes you get video media clips? A lot of sites are blocking that trying to shut that down so those that get refused because they don't want those snippets up there but another group had come in saying. Yeah but the problem is. That's where the audio search results get pulled from that right media snippet so if you wack yourself over there you're gonNA lose your shot on audio and smart speaker and of course there's only one result on smart speaker. Either get to you. Don't you're dead. I don't know what do you think about that you know. There's been a lot of chatter this. We'd have seen about smart speakers and like we'll smart speaker ever come round as a marketing. Venue the challenge and the reason why marketers really don't like audience. Smart Speaker is exactly what you said. It's the one result you get one shot? If you're not number one year you literally are nothing. And so it's quite a challenge to get to that and the trick there is. We've been talking about this for. I don't know five years now is you've got to build your brand. You've got to build your brand and has got to be a memorable enough brand that silicon. Recall it when they're talking to you know they're smart speaker on saying. Hey Google tell me when trust insights is open right and Google's got to be able to recognize it but more importantly customers got and remember it and if you don't have that brand power than smart speaker yeah it's going to be no help to you. Yeah you'RE NOT GONNA GET ANYTHING. Done it in the same vein to purchasing via text message. Walmart is closing down their service that they had for buying via text. It was interesting. They took this whole model. That was completely as far away from the Walmart model you could get. Was You know? Urban City people texting to buy stuff and having it delivered straight to them and saying that it the peak it was losing fifteen thousand a year per member which is kind of that's kind of Bologna metric. You know saying that like the dividing the whole expenses the company by the existing customer base. Because that's what ramping up is all about but I was more interested just in the idea of buying via text. Do you think that can take off or is that kind of going too far down the shopping experience? All think about that I mean. What have we become accustomed to? We open that companies relevant happen by inside there right. You open up the Amazon Apple. Whatever and you buy in there and indeed for those things that aren't a lot of cases you open up what pay pal or van Mo or whatever the payment system of your choices and that's what you do it so it seems like a stretch to go the text message out to win. It's just as little effort for consumer to open up the Walmart APP on their phone and especially if they're all payment information to save verification process and things. I don't know why you'd go almost. It's not the same but almost strikes me as like by by fax. Yeah right right I can. I can see where you're coming from especially because you just lose everything. Now you're just sending text via the the text protocol and as opposed to when you're in the APP now there's still tracking your round and they can serve up stuff that suggestions based on previous orders and like you said the payments already locked in so. Yeah that's that's a great point. Why would you kind of waste time going on that route if you've got him locked into the APP and even better yet take that fifteen k? A year you're losing and gives every customer a thousand bucks to spend for free on the APP. You would in theory be better off. Yeah Oh totally you blow up the APP store. They're the the the other thing. Is that if you if you're looking for aren't guard ways. Walmart has a massive disadvantage. If you're looking for ways to get people to buy something guess what. Smart Speaker is a great way to do that. Except for one minor problem the largest smart Speaker Company also speed world's largest e-commerce company. Yeah I don't think we're going to see any walmart results coming up number one speech queries anytime soon. No no yeah. It'll be interesting to see how that that fight shakes out too because still at some point. You have to believe that they're like yeah. Anytime anybody to buy anything we go look at Amazon. I no matter what it was. They had Amazon. Losing some ground in the space. Actually both Amazon and Google losing ground because a lot of these third parties sonos and other speakers gain some ground during the quarter. And I don't know I find that a little bit interesting. That's kind of cool that these are better fidelity stuff you know. This is stuff that people really want the music or the speaker but then of course the the flow would that logic is just because somebody bought asano smart speaker. Maybe they're just buying a Sonos speaker and don't really care at all about the fact that it's smart so yeah in fact. I wouldn't even say you're you can't say directly that you're losing share just because there's more sports aren't speakers out there. It's all about how much they actually get used right exactly and who system they integrate with both Google and Amazon have ap is and stuff for a third party smart speakers to talk to them to be able to leverage. You know a the Alexis the googles of the world. Ibm has one Fritz chat assistance in a very distant third place unfortunately there so the question is for lights party manufacturers or as well WHO's system? You're going to go with. Who who do you? Who Do you want to be locked into? Yeah where do you want to place your bets and it was interesting over Valentine's Day the air pods pro. Where a number one later. I notice even sold out for a couple of days or on Amazon. Able to get them and at the same time. Echo buds drop down to eighty nine bucks at one point which that was almost like an impulse. Buy For me. I came very close just to grab him for the sake of it and then I looked yesterday and their backup at one thirty or wherever. They're they're at so the Valentine's Day sale is over in. Your shot is over that but yeah the idea of kind of smart ear. Buds IS PRETTY INTERESTING. But yeah not taking the plunge just yet on that. Yeah but it is interesting too late when you step back and look at where every place Amazon trying to cram luxa microwave ovens ear buds jewelry eyeglasses. They clearly know that. Whoever wins the smart assistant space is going to win the commerce space and so You know I like this. One reminder in my blogging notes thing to do a fun thing like inappropriate uses of smarter systems like you know putting specific devices that you really don't want a smart in a comedy episode of something down the road but when think about it where else can they put these devices. That are listening all the time and are ready to take your order the moment you think of something to buy. That's the play and people who can't recognize that are going to be at a severe disadvantage. Yeah yeah that's that's what you want to lock in.

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Sonos ending support for decade-old speakers really isn't a big deal

This Week in Tech

02:17 min | 5 months ago

Sonos ending support for decade-old speakers really isn't a big deal

"Speaking speaking of going away sonos and gadget great piece from you davinder every smart smart device you love will die starting with sonos little dramatic yeah it's an important point though yeah make the point tell us why you say this all it's something you know last week we heard about his plan to retire some of their ten year old products and select the first play five some of the first bridges i believe that they released and basically they said that they were gonna end support also if you were using those devices in had modern sonos hardware none of your hardware would be updated because it's all kind of a a dated network they're all mesh connected so you couldn't have like old stephanie often used for any together i think it just made it clear that this wondrous bounty of connected gadgets were living in this is the cost is that they will they they will die and much faster than similar gadgets of the past right like i knew people running speakers hi fi speakers that are decades old like speakers from the seventies seventies they can still run today because they're all running over a nice standard wired connection and that's been consistent for the last several decades and we just don't have that anymore and smart devices because they they're basically tiny computers they won't be able to run newer software in your updates they'll just have to be the retired eventually your only choices the consumer is upgrade and i think for sonos in particular that was bad it was it was a big hit to sell us fans because you can easily you know spend thousands of dollars equipping your house with smart sonos speakers and now it looks like the company just is going to be killing support and also giving you breath bad way to upgrade they have this thing called for cycle mode that'll fundamentally kill an old device completely irreverent ribbit qabli like you can't even restore it and they'll give you thirty percent off new hardware and you'll do this all again in ten years maybe and it's just kind of to me it's kind of a mess and two shows like this stuff steph won't last forever smart devices may make our lives easier but they will die like far sooner than older gadgets to the past

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Here's Why Sonos Customers Were Angry About Plans to End Product Updates

This Week in Computer Hardware

02:34 min | 5 months ago

Here's Why Sonos Customers Were Angry About Plans to End Product Updates

"We're talking a lot about sonos and some of the frustrations of longstanding hardware that still functions you know we're a company goes we're going to give you support for life than they realized that maybe the technology or maybe the bottom line or owner structure sure has changed in a way that prevents them from continuing to code things opt update your aging hardware but you know one of the things that wasn't as clear and certainly that emphasize articles we were looking at last week in his both sebastian and i dug deeper and deeper into sonos website this sonos kind hi to buried a really important line in this announcement which was that quote customers with both legacy and modern products time decide what option is best for them you can continue to use use your whole system and legacy mold this case it will stop receiving updates new features or you know they basically said that you know they're they're going to let you run your older gear on its own kind of node isolates you keep getting updates on the newer stuff if you mix the newer the legacy hardware as they call it you're not gonna get updates the newer stuff and i will also say that we saw this crazy we wasn't crazy bashing and and i were also admiring the intensity of the letter that came out so the blog entry for a CEO of sonos which was heard by the drop in stock price or happens by everybody on the internet and sodas own forums going berserk you know but it's it's blog a letter from our CEO all sonos products will continue to work past may rest assured the a when we a new software updates where legacy products they will continue you to work they do today we're not breaking them we're not forcing them into obsolescence and we are not taking anything away many of you have invested heavily in your soda systems we intend to honor that investment for as as long as possible while legacy sodas products will get you software features we pledge to keep them updated with bug fixes and security patches for as long as possible they say long long as possible a lot it's conduct hiring so what they say though is is they are working on a way to split your system unquote so that modern products work together and get the latest features will legacy products work together and remain in their current state i e you have eleven tina these devices in your hat ousted seven of them are quote quote legacy on won't you won't have to replace all of them if you just want to listen to some delete expert of musically expert of being one of the words of the week here on the

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Sonos CEO tries to calm customers, says products will work ‘as long as possible’

The Vergecast

01:38 min | 5 months ago

Sonos CEO tries to calm customers, says products will work ‘as long as possible’

"The Sea of Santa's Patrick Spence and note to customers saying they got it wrong clarifying some things. Let's just I want to zoom out out of this semi breaking news. I get it In talking about crowd size so a few weeks ago there was a controversy over so no says recycle mode. Yeah right so if you have an old sonos product you WANNA trade up to new Unsan says a trader program. You tell them that you want to trade him up the give you a discount a new thing and then they will send a software command to your old thing. The disables it from working and then you are meant to take it to recycle center and they have a list of those or can't find find one of those emails to Sonos and they will recycle it Person who works at a recycling center said this is bullshit on twitter. which is how most problems start Fast these these devices are the best way to actually get Use Out of these things us to re use them as to put them back in the field. It's very hard to recycle everything just breaking devices. I says because they don't want to use them that was like an like an illusion right. It's like not quite true. You could just not participate in the recycled program. You could you just leave your thing alone. It would keep working. You could just buy anything at full price and sell the old thing. You can recoup the difference but if you took the recycle mode deal than you get a discount on your thing we break so like one option but not actively breaking stuff to get you but it's the Internet. The people got confused. I will say it is not great that recycle mode involved this breaking of devices. Yeah but that's what that's what it it

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Intel's Earnings Boosted by Data-Center, PC Demand

Geek News Central

00:36 sec | 5 months ago

Intel's Earnings Boosted by Data-Center, PC Demand

"Until strong. Twenty point two billion quarter revenues driven by data center grow so good news from Intel. And of course I continue disclaimer. That own Intel stock earnings eight percent revenue growth hitting Wall Street target for financial forms. Thanks Star Data Center revenues avenues and So how much was it. They were up eight percent. Nineteen percent growth. Just earnings hit a dollar fifty to a share. Now's else expect Intel report. Want a dollar twenty five and adjusted earnings per share on revenues of nineteen point two billion. So good job. Intel

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Apple says losing Lightning port will create waste

Geek News Central

00:54 sec | 5 months ago

Apple says losing Lightning port will create waste

"Says this is this is calling the kettle black here you know a bit the EU wants to force apple to go to a standard ice USB plug apple doe has came back and countered saying losing the lightning port will create waste. So they're trying to turn the message on them. How many you've had an a a apple? Lightning port connector last more than a year. How many of these lightning reports have you broke? I literally have I if I kept them all. There would be a stack of them. The lightning port is the one that breaks the most of of course. I buy probably the cheapest ones I cannot Amazon because they break so many of them but they just break. You know it's it's it drives me insane

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Sonos CEO apologises but will not provide software updates for legacy products

Geek News Central

02:09 min | 5 months ago

Sonos CEO apologises but will not provide software updates for legacy products

"The SONO'S CEO has apologized. He caused confusion and where he says. Legacy products will continue to work as long as possible. Possible and He basically tried to clear up the announcement mainly earlier this week. I corps silence announced it will ceased delivering software updates and new features to its products in May but the company said there's advice should continue functioning properly in the near term but it wasn't enough to take preventing uproar and of course we knew that many people that were gonNA take a thirty percent discount their their devices we're going to be bricked and He said we did not get this. Right from the start and apologizes for any confusion. He says you spend a lot of money. Yeah I I've got in those two two speakers and a couple of other side devices probably six seven hundred dollars in you know in devices at work perfectly these days and He he says legacy products include the original Donald play five zone players and connect slash connect amp devices that were manufactured between two thousand eleven and two thousand fifteen said the continue to work in all honesty the one device all it does is it. Takes the SONO's information is coming off. Your computer sends it to the device over Wifi and it puts it into a HIFI system Another one devices. A is a bridge the bridges. All your devices together so that you just ought to be able to talk to these devices and they were going to Brigham you know so anyway. All Products Continue to work pass. May that's good news. We'll see what What they come up with but what about people's devices aces Bricked the ones that they they locked out already and we talked about that many weeks ago so it doesn't save those devices that that have already been sent to the graveyard which is really truly sad and what they did there so Anyway that's the word

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Sonos CEO tries to calm customers, says products will work ‘as long as possible’

This Week in Computer Hardware

04:19 min | 5 months ago

Sonos CEO tries to calm customers, says products will work ‘as long as possible’

"Josh did a write up on this in peace per this week And this is an announcement about Sogo. Soros us so goes so knows legacy versus modern products. And if you're wondering what that means if you're a sonos enthusiast rest and I'll just wave my hand in the air there or if you're frustrated with Sonos I'll just waved my hands in the air. They're they're classifying their products into two groups legacy and modern the modern products of course You know we'll continue to get regular software updates and it's interesting thing There's a kind of a list of the modern products and the legacy products and You know the the bridge. Ah The connect Made from two thousand fifteen the connect amp which was made from or the ones that were made between two thousand eleven. Two Thousand Fifteen because they continue to make the connecting the connect damp You know two thousand sixteen In later right until they came up with these sonos amp example that came out at the tail end of two thousand eighteen The first gen play five which I have And then a list of those EP Eighty Ninety one hundred one twenty which are fairly old but it was interesting because a lot of these products in some cases if you bought a connect Ampara connect In two thousand fifteen. You're going to be profoundly pissed off because it's essentially a four a year old five year old product. This point If you WANNA play five Jim one play five. That's a ten year old product and The the reason I'm bringing this up is You know this is this. Is You know sonos claims that they cannot get for a lot of pardons there's over one hundred streaming partners that Sonos works with this point spotify tied. All these would be the ones you might think about first audible something something like that But apparently the the the API software getting so complicated that they claim they you know a lot of these products these you know. Eight ten year old products next which respect with eight ten year old chips or at the edge of their capabilities at this point and they can no longer They can no longer kind of keep them running and or deliver the customer the user experience that she wants. And you know it's Frustrating strating would be one word for it if you own these products because they still sound fantastic They still work extremely well. They still seem to have. I've frontier purposes no delay when you start the product it's You know it's something we're probably GonNa see more and more of For these single use devices you know the register Got Really intense intense about this Thomas Kleber over the register dot co Dot. UK First of all like a lot of sites The idea that so if if I have if bald my stuff is modern like for example. Apparently might play three is new enough. You know. SONOS APP is new. And if you have the play one speakers which is what we've done a ton of our listening on Those all have enough processors to keep moving forward However the one play five we had which was perfectly adequate? Did a great job in our kitchen kitchen would no longer would aid. No longer received updates and be leaving in our network would prevent us from using Any of the Speier any of US figures network. I work from getting updated. And you know so SONA says they're gonNA give you the ability to Corentin your legacy gear You know the part of the reason I mentioned the The register article is because they pulled out some I. I think that that pulled out some quotes there. It is do you go In their Q.. Four Twenty Nine Hundred Ten k the financial filings were. Sony said quote we expected in the near term this backwards compatibility with no longer be practical color cost effective.

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Broadcom to supply wireless components to Apple

Geek News Central

00:29 sec | 5 months ago

Broadcom to supply wireless components to Apple

"BROADCOM IS GONNA supply wireless components to apple. It's a two year deal to multi year agreements commits. Excuse me for the spy wireless components the twenty twenty statement works on to the existing ones for supplying radio frequency components and modules the iphone maker and could generate as much as fifteen billion dollars in revenue for broadcom chairs. The chipmaker rose two percent extended training over the announcement and violate tonight

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DirecTV satellite is at risk of explosion due to battery issues

Geek News Central

00:35 sec | 5 months ago

DirecTV satellite is at risk of explosion due to battery issues

"Direct. TV is racing. To decommission. Broken Boeing satellite before it explodes it has irreversible damage batteries screening creening explosion risk and. They're scrambling move this broken Boeing satellite out of its standard orbit into in order to risk an an accidental explosion. Meant not much. Check this out though. It's an Geo orbit right now and they actually made a recommendation to Deorbit it. Well it really isn't Deorbit. They'RE GONNA put it three hundred miles higher.

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Sonos to deny software updates to owners of older equipment, backlash ensues

Rocket

10:18 min | 5 months ago

Sonos to deny software updates to owners of older equipment, backlash ensues

"Sonus has has said in a blog. Post that it may they will stop providing software updates for their old products and those products will not receive new features this impacts legacy devices Of which there are few including zone players the connect and connect amps that were put out between two thousand eleven and two thousand fifteen. The first generation play five this year two hundred controller end of a bridge They had will. Obviously one of these products are very old And especially the ones that were introduced you used a long time ago. Sono says were introduced before the advent of the iphone were music streaming which music streaming and being a huge way that we consume audio at this point in human history Interestingly Sonos told the verge urge that they're creating their introducing away for customers who want to keep using the legacy hardware to separate those products from the SONA systems. Because if they if he don't separate the old hardware from like your existing sound system it the the system as a whole will stop updating because it it is like linked to the legacy hardware. So what a beautiful. I think exhibit of how what a cluster truck butter the world is that we live in now although I totally support like not update like at a certain point. You can't say Oh yeah. spotify is never going to release an update that it that that is incompatible with our hardware from twenty eleven like I totally understand that but who we so Chris so before we can you help I. I assume we've reviewed these or NEON owner and I've I've used them. Yeah so help me understand this because I read the story. And they're they're alleged alleged claim. We can't develop new features if we don't if we can't move forward which is fine on the surface but I don't understand like what is the feature on this I assume they're connected wirelessly through your wirelessly through your home right right with the smartphone. What is this product? Because I don't understand okay. So basically soon was one of the very first mainstream wireless speaker systems so you know the idea would be you can have speakers speakers that are in different rooms of your house and you can control them from a it used to be a controller and then it went to you know your ipad in your phone back in the day like this is like two thousand five two thousand six they had like an actual like expensive controller. That had a capacity of touch screen where you would be able to choose what you wanted to play and you could pull it from itunes or or if you had a CD player connected to something or if you had like another music source and you could direct it to whatever speaker you want. So that's the idea is just. It's a really easy really high quality wireless speaker our system so it's a home pot. Yeah but but but it better in my opinion and You know Has a lot more connective options and came out like more than a decade in advance have spotify built-in to display. Yes what does he does. Yes so it will work with any of those during music services so their they are apt works with title or Google play works with Amazon at works with spotify works with I tunes works with Apple Music. You can connect it to a Nas- if you have your own local media you can If you if you had certain accessories you can connect like You know a record player to it and and and then pump that music's issue a different speaker so if you had a record player in one room but it's connected to an edge to connect damp that could then be played out of something that's upstairs assuming you know you've got the turntable along Basically any audio source you once you can find a way to for it to kind of work so it doesn't have any on the speakers themselves that are just speakers But they also have a sound bar they have something called the play bar and then they had the play Bass and those are both Options where you can have it connected to your TV and B uses a sound bar but it can also be used as part of your bigger system so if you have some of the the spoon. It's kind of like bookshelf speakers. Those are in your room and could be used for like regularly listening to music but then when you're using your play Bar Like your surround. Sound when you're watching. TV those become like rear speakers or speakers. Okay so but this is I understand. It is expensive for engineering perspective to continue supporting according older products. But these are things that were sold at deep discounts as much as a few a few months ago. I mean I've seen all kinds of people people talk on twitter. They just bought. The things are deprecated yeah. I don't. I don't do SONA suspense. I don't know if Sonos has been selling them to be clear if someone is going to go out in invest like these are very expensive items. Yeah it just I. I don't think there's a really strong engineering case that if you're you're talking about out basically a sperm wired into the system disagree I disagree. Well let me let me place my my concerns and tell me if I'm wrong but it seems to to me so they're saying you can get off the system we can refuse all updates and it's GonNa break everything it's going to break everything through the whole system for your whole house. It won't break everything it will leave all the systems on on in in your collection on that version of the software they were able to update to newer features so they added like airplay to support. If there was another wireless standard you could. They wouldn't run so if you have something newer it's going to be. It's going to stay well right now. It's going GonNa stay on the old version and they're working on his way to say okay. You can update the firmware and the software on the newer devices. But keep the older ones where they are. You're working on communicate like could have an old speaker in my retro room and then a new speaker my kitchen in path. Okay well if they'll do do that. That seems like a reasonable have stop. I thought they were because it's not like spotify. Most of that work is on the backup. D- right in this is the the problem right. This is actually the issue like this is what people don't understand. Yes these are speakers but these speakers also have microcontrollers and they have firmware. And they have you know they've been coded to to be able to play back things in certain Codex and have certain stuff and over time especially when you're looking at the really old things the only one that I can see getting annoyed with is if you you've got One of the play fives that that isn't the one that's been sold since two thousand fifteen so if you bought one and say like twenty fourteen and the play five is is expensive. It's like five hundred dollars on. It might have been more when people bought it that I can understand being annoyed with but some of these other things that the connect damp is really popular. People buying them because they discontinued it but and they released a newer thing. That's even more expensive but the thing is is that you know some of these. Some of these products haven't been sold in many years Some of them were for sale. You know a couple of years ago or maybe under a year ago and and I can understand the frustration Chretien if you bought one of those older devices but the thing is that yes. It's a speaker but it has you know the Bluetooth and it has the wireless ships and it. Has You know a way to update firmware. And if it was something that was built like you know more than a decade ago that amount of memory is really limited in the amount of things that can be updated to it are going to be limited so you as a software hardware company are trying to update you know things and add in you know okay. We want to support this new type of Kodak Awkward. There's a new version of Bluetooth and we want to add feature for to support. You know this airplay shooting which they did do in. Did you know. Support the older devices. That's gonna I I think. Probably they're probably at a point. Where the computer part of these speakers just is too old maybe the wireless components the radio components are? I'm just too old to be consistently updated like this. This is the way I'm reading that I understand the frustration being like oh I have speakers that are twenty years old. That will still work. Well yes but those are those speaker. Exactly that's analog this. This has always had a piece of technology in IT. They actually had A. This is the second time they've done something like this. They had a controller caller. That hadn't been sold since I think two thousand eight. They stopped updating last year and people freaked out and and this was a controller. That literally hadn't been sold in over a decade that was you know as been supplanted in May better in every way people's phones and the reason they couldn't update it was because they built built using adobe flash and the engineering work they'll be involved to continue to update those things especially as all the spotify doesn't have an API flashing where they don't have an important like the cuts. Those things used exactly what the controller used doesn't exist anymore they. I had to stop updating that. I think I'm I understand the outrage. I personally think this is okay I understand expensive although I think this kind of part of it the one thing I will say what they've said and if they keep this I think it's alright is. They've said that they will basically say these devices will continue to work and and they still like five years. What they're basically saying is there might come a day where these speakers won't be able to connect to the other speakers in your Sonos anymore and you might not be able to send things to it? that is obviously a concern to me. What's also a concern would be okay if Sonos goes out of business like what do you do then right like then if swatter fires and other service changes there in point or if there's you know a official needs to phone home for something then you're really screwed but I I would rather like I I understand the outrage? I also think that it's overblown because I think that they're doing a lot more than most other companies who are doing this type of thing would do I mean i. I can't think of I can't think of any other tech product that was released in two thousand thousand six that has continued to receive support but from software updates since two thousand six. I honestly

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Sonos sues Google at CES 2020

Talking Tech

00:30 sec | 6 months ago

Sonos sues Google at CES 2020

"Let's start with Sonos as that is the juiciest headline basically Sonos Sonos which makes incredible portable WIFI speakers with great sound. says that Google stolen secrets and used its technology to make inferior cheaper deeper knockoff models. What is so no swat a cease and desist order for Google? The stop selling the Google home line of connected speakers to pixel phone own and pixel tablets and laptops okay. I cannot wait for that

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Sonos sues Google for allegedly stealing smart speaker tech

WSJ Tech News Briefing

00:37 sec | 6 months ago

Sonos sues Google for allegedly stealing smart speaker tech

"Speaker maker. sonos is suing Google in two lawsuits claims. Google got access to its patented multi-room Torun Speaker Technology in a twenty thirteen partnership and then use the tech and Google devices outside of the partnership like chrome cast audio and the Google home and Pixel products. SONAL says Google then subsidized its own products so could seldom at a lower price point soon as also claims that ECOMMERCE giant Amazon violated highlighted sonus. Patents in its ECO product line but sonus executives have decided not to take on both tech giants in court at the same time both Amazon and Google denied. The

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Sonos’ Google lawsuit says what every smaller tech company was thinking: working with big tech sucks

Mandy Connell

00:30 sec | 6 months ago

Sonos’ Google lawsuit says what every smaller tech company was thinking: working with big tech sucks

"Be careful with whom you work the electronics company sonos is now suing Google saying the tech giant stole it smart speaker technology after the two companies work together to get Google's music service to work seamlessly with sonos wireless speakers at the time Google was not the smart speaker market shuttles to saying is that Google took the information that it learns out during those discussions about work and put it into its own products Google home smart speaker which first on June twenty sixteen photos executives say they once had a good relationship

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Sonos Offers A Feature Called 'Recycle Mode' That Bricks Speakers

Daily Tech News Show

04:33 min | 6 months ago

Sonos Offers A Feature Called 'Recycle Mode' That Bricks Speakers

"Sonos is offering a feature called recycle mode as part of a trade up program that lets you trade in older sonos speakers for a discount on a newer one. If you're old Sonos is is eligible for a trade up. You can confirm you WANNA trade it in the Sonos APP Sonos then gives you a thirty percent discount on the new speaker her and begins at Twenty One day countdown for your old speaker to go into recycle mode at the end of the twenty one days the old speaker has its data arrays and is Herman deactivated. That leaves you with no other option than taking it to an e ways with silty or shipping it back back to Sonos for recycling. The products in the trade program are more than ten years old so no says it would be irresponsible to reintroduce them to new customers. There's that may not have the context that they are indeed ten-year-old products that may not be able to deliver the sonos experience they expected and yeah so I mean a lot of people got extra outraged at this. I don't think you need to get extra outraged. This is really a kind of a more flexible way way of doing it than what apple or Microsoft or any of these trading programs do they make you send the device to them you it to resell that either you send the device in and then they give you a discount on a new device or they give you a credit towards a new device. What Sonos is saying is look? We're going to give you the thirty percent discount. Then we're going to shut down your old speaker because we don't think gets in. We don't think it's a good idea for other people to get this speaker. That's ten years old and rather than have making you ship to us. You have the option to ship it to us a will recycle it or you can just go recycle it yourself but we want to keep it out of the ecosystem. It's that last apart. We want to keep it out of the ecosystem that I do have a problem with Sonos. It's like look if you're not gonNA take it back. I don't think having these out there is really going to cause confusion Asian it's certainly not going to undermine the market for your new stuff. I find it ridiculous that you have to brick speaker because someone wanted a thirty percent discount because I can go sell my old Sonos speaker right now without getting the thirty percent discount and caused just the same amount of so confusion. No you just hit it. This is a non story this is so no saying we would like to buy the ability to keep this ecosystem as up to date as possible. We would like to buy that ability from you. You do not have to sell it. You are not compelled to sell it. Your old speakers do not automatically medically click into obsolescence. Only if you get the discount you are choosing for Sonos to buy the right to turn off your speaker permanently and then be sold for part somewhere else you. This is not a forced the way that this is being covered and reacted to makes it sound like at year. Twelve twelve your your. Your Sonos speaker starts ticking because they want to make sure that everybody has new speakers. That's not the case if you don't WanNa do it don't take their money. That is a fair point. And you're starting to persuade me a little there because if you look at it as and it is optional. That's the key here is you. Don't have to to apply for the thirty percent discount. And if you don't ask for the discount your speaker doesn't get turned off. It continues to work and sodas has been very good about supporting products ten ten plus years which most electronics companies do not do so I want to give them lots of credit for that. I just don't see why they can't just give you the thirty percent discount. I don't know why. Why give you the thirty percent discount? If you're not giving them anything thirty deep discount. That is a good chunk of change off a new speaker. They are doing to make sure that nobody buys US speaker right. How about this abdicating? Their responsibility when they don't make you send the speaker to them because you might just throw it in the trash irresponsibly submit Laurie okay. But you're saying that's a good thing for them they don't make it is actually. It's good for them and to be. Honest is such a small problem. How many people apple really by you speakers? I know you exist and there are three of you writing me an email right now saying I do but most people don't. It's not a huge market. I don't know I guess it's you're right. It's a thirty percent discount for taking old speakers out of circulation and hopefully getting them properly recycled eh. Offering

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Sonos Tries and Fails to Justify 'Recycle Mode' That Bricks Speakers

Daily Tech News Show

01:01 min | 6 months ago

Sonos Tries and Fails to Justify 'Recycle Mode' That Bricks Speakers

"Sonos is offering a feature called recycle mode as part of a trade up program that lets you trade in older sonos speakers for a discount on a newer one. If you're old Sonos is is eligible for a trade up. You can confirm you WANNA trade it in the Sonos APP Sonos then gives you a thirty percent discount on the new speaker her and begins at Twenty One day countdown for your old speaker to go into recycle mode at the end of the twenty one days the old speaker has its data arrays and is Herman deactivated. That leaves you with no other option than taking it to an e ways civility or shipping. It back back to Sonos for recycling. The products in the trade program are more than ten years old so no says it would be irresponsible to reintroduce them to new customers. There's that may not have the context that they are indeed ten-year-old products that may not be able to deliver the sonos experience they expected

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Sonos Trade In Program Described As 'Environmental Vandalism'

TechStuff

03:07 min | 6 months ago

Sonos Trade In Program Described As 'Environmental Vandalism'

"Has a trade up program that gives existing sonos users a thirty percent credit toward a new sonos device if those users users activate what is called recycle mode on their older sonos device now recycle mode starts a countdown clock. It's a twenty eighty one day countdown and at the end of that Sonos puts the device on a blacklist so that it is bricked meaning. You can't use it at all. It will not work it is ineffective and also means that you can't give away or sell it or at least you can't do so ethically because you just be handing over what amounts to being a a giant paperweight with a lot of the circuit boards and wires in it so really. The only options are to try and hack the speakers which which isn't really an option. Most people would feel comfortable trying to tackle and would probably have limited use anyway or you could send the speaker to an e waste recycling facility or you just throw the darn thing away. That's not a great option it adds e-waste. UAC's bad stuff and recycling while better than throwing stuff out isn't As environmentally friendly as reusing stuff. If you've ever heard reduce reuse recycle well it's in that order of preference you want to reduce the amount of waste waist you generate you want to reuse stuff as much as you can the stuff you can't reuse recycle the stuff you can't reuse or recycle then you can and throw away but even that is you know not great so Wilson's point. Was that Sosas program actually incentivizes creating creating waste. It encourages people to brick their old device in order to get this thirty percent credit toward their next purchase and it makes those old old devices useless to anyone and sure they. These people might go and recycle their old sonos speakers but as nice option as as to keep the equipment in working order so that someone else can actually make use of it rather than for it to just go to waste. Critics have said this really isn't about belt reducing waste it's about sonos limiting the viability of a secondary market. Because Sonos doesn't make money off of someone selling off an old pair era of speakers or anything like that. The company has a financial incentive to discourage aftermarket sales and create pathways for people to buy directly from Sonos or from retailers who are carrying sonos speakers so the criticism states that. This is a devious way for Sonos to play the environmentally conscious card. Hard to make it look like. They're being ECO friendly while actually they're taking aim at a market that can undercut their own revenues that being the resale L. Market we've seen this with other properties as well other types of gadgets and electronics as well as video games this idea of getting rid of that resale market in order or to create the incentive for people to go out and buy new copies as opposed to US copies or used devices in this

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"sonos" Discussed on The HT Guys

The HT Guys

01:41 min | 11 months ago

"sonos" Discussed on The HT Guys

"Yeah that's amazing so you can go over to a._p._s. Forum and check that out <hes> the find the other <hes> five units on the list two fifty for the number one sub woofer. <hes> times are good. I guess all right so we saw we had an email and or sorry the news item that mentioned sonos and we thought way back one of the first companies that sent our fledgling podcasts some equipment to review so so. We decided you know what let's do a company profile because they've been around for a while. They've been around a little bit longer than we have been but <hes> do you remember the brain when we got that first sonos <hes> <hes> setup how excited we were that a real company sent us something in how much we loved that sono set up. Oh yeah that. I saw no setup that we played with was a game changer. I yeah i remember playing with that thing and not wanting to give it back yeah so like i said we were <hes> <hes> just just starting and they made us feel legitimate and that we could make a go of it <hes> the podcast thing now almost thousand podcast later were still going strong sewer they <hes> one of us has grown exponentially and the other one records a podcast every week <hes> this week we're going to profile sonos and much of the information comes directly from the sonos website yeah all right so background sonos was founded in august twenty second of two thousand two headquartered in santa. Barbara california currently employs just under fifteen hundred people the founders john macfarlane. Tom cullen trung. My and craig shelbourne conjured a daring vision and based on technology that didn't exist at the time fueled with.

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"sonos" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO

Newsradio 830 WCCO

01:58 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on Newsradio 830 WCCO

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"sonos" Discussed on 1075 KZL

1075 KZL

03:45 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on 1075 KZL

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"sonos" Discussed on Power 105.1 FM

Power 105.1 FM

02:01 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on Power 105.1 FM

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"sonos" Discussed on WNVZ Z104

WNVZ Z104

03:53 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on WNVZ Z104

"Sonos no demining cycle michael can't really trust join no turning off of autumn moore's garside cocaine julie got side go promise chevy's john blue would dot dot just once john small we know cain doc overnight right just put your necklace notable what balan michael okay really trust nobody will join aw aw shut dumber tony right joey got forty four in the morning news to most of my family as you know vestal backup in the d up in detroit and if something big happens usually i'll get a text from somebody hey did you see this new story or did you hear about this yesterday the story was about the truckers on the highway when they all park next was crazy i guess the michigan state police got a call that somebody was on the overpass of 696 which is a very busy interstate in the detroit area so they were all on the bridge like the overpass and they were threatening to jump they were gonna commit suicide they were gonna jump off the overpass this was around one am so the state police got on the horn with a bunch of truckers and they were like can you guys help us so thirteen or so truckers got on the highway and start and parked their truck side by side next to each other right under the overpass guy was so even if you were to jump you'd probably like miss it messed up his ankle he would land on a truck and they said you only have off all about ten feet and land and what are the trucks and say hitting the ground so thirteen different semis park next to each other across both sides of the highway there's only a foot or two space in between each of them and once they were all part there the cops had time to talk this guy down yeah so the truckers save this guy's life yeah this guy is really good yeah okay hang it i cannot believe each one of those truckers got a ticket for stopping on the interstate well it's you know you break the law piece give them a pass no sorry that was your idea that ours all gonna ticket when we come back next on z morning zoo the one huge band music that says we actually want you to bring your phone to our concerts and the.

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"sonos" Discussed on Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

03:05 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on Q: The Podcast from CBC Radio

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"sonos" Discussed on MYfm 104.3

MYfm 104.3

02:18 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on MYfm 104.3

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"sonos" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

VIBES-LIVE

01:59 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

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"sonos" Discussed on RobinLynne

RobinLynne

01:59 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on RobinLynne

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"sonos" Discussed on PURE ROCK RADIO Originals

PURE ROCK RADIO Originals

02:20 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on PURE ROCK RADIO Originals

"Was serious yes sonos.

"sonos" Discussed on The Big 98

The Big 98

02:42 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on The Big 98

"As assumed seemingly launched town it's just the conversation over wastage doll no mean sonos a key steal free bottle shane your in may you police say cure jio prime i am doorways owners three your i support of say cure no no it's super low next day he knows try to be nice to see gaz getting close try and to pick you shanna kids huge von and i'm sure france the button come over ucs goes to save you from ran of gasratov few much and want to stay soon all his name also in days would have been keno lou williams who ruled you ask to lead build a hill coudl the she will sail haning anna steele he kamal anywhere daniel in breed jane in may may liam payne we all for all the area of god jio all eu sonos at old steel breed donald change i just wanna say royal you foul former your hey you are pat crowley and jio thank you two.

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"sonos" Discussed on KBOI 670AM

KBOI 670AM

01:45 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on KBOI 670AM

"Sonos jon heyman hello no two linnea god then it will end oh man is huawei.

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"sonos" Discussed on RobinLynne

RobinLynne

03:05 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on RobinLynne

"Sonos jumper come on we now banning thought her on about it johnathan williams was this result for you yes why who does he not yadav has on the spot loyalty his you've got he undermined years on from the ago vijay singh thomas rhett y z common me gene in my opinion has come with now on saw this coming john mccain finally did the right thing schumer is boiling mad by gary mayer for usa politics today the republican endeavour to repeal and replace obamacare was a fiasco while not by any means the only one to point the finger at rhino in chief john mccain drove the last nail in that coffin this or not to have been a major a may amazement a given his history of restricting conservatives in their causes furthermore almost certainly his ego was all around sustained by that demonstration of doublecrossing for reasons may be just known to him he has changed his tune with respect to the tax bill the left should be shocked that he would have the nerve to abandon them for his own party market down as one of the considerable damage demonstrations of his political vocation john mccain truly is ready for the republican tax bill fortunate lace senate majority leader mcconnell has reported that he has enough votes to pass the tax reform bill the democrats are rendered week by this mr schumer can practice is right to kohl president trump at the republican leadership unsavoury names also he can regurgitate his standard of vaneman in addition forecasts of approaching fee however fortunately oil heat at his kindred democrats can do other than watched the bill go in anguish this is a staggering wayan for president trump in the.

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"sonos" Discussed on KEOM 88.5 FM

KEOM 88.5 FM

01:30 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on KEOM 88.5 FM

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"sonos" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

VIBES-LIVE

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on VIBES-LIVE

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"sonos" Discussed on KROQ 106.7FM

KROQ 106.7FM

02:12 min | 2 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on KROQ 106.7FM

"Sonos the lag be given a buffoon falls in the the woman says tbi paul gene during the captain dolls let us equates abachi rock his k r o q you're listening to the kgb each you at nine twenty one and i'm so glad that we have our friend ashley escape on the phone right now so listen i'm so glad you're out ashley is our friend who's a senior editor at cnet whenever we have complicated issue that we're we're dumped dempsey we need a professional grown up to explain to us we go to ashley and this is certainly one of those everybody online today will see the words net neutrality many of us don't completely understand what's going on but i feel like something bad is about to happen i'm hearing like ominous darth vader music what's going on ashley okay now neutrality in the legal all traffic on created a all right ghana any legal work that you not only are within the confines of how to fast play okay so the idea of the aisle way that neutrality we could be would like you repeal some of the regulation play heat back traffic on a level playing field so on a million are i'm not but i think that we all have a heading finances with our our internet company to nickel in time i haven't seen great farfetched hugh back in something like you in the it or not uh in the way habeel subtle made he i comcast is it in or if you'd hear whoever found one in what packages anticipated much hit he's.

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"sonos" Discussed on Power 106 FM

Power 106 FM

04:08 min | 3 years ago

"sonos" Discussed on Power 106 FM

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