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Horn of Africa hit by worst locust invasion in decades

Marketplace Morning Report with David Brancaccio

06:59 min | 1 year ago

Horn of Africa hit by worst locust invasion in decades

"From Nissan to Boeing we revisit some of the biggest corporate scandals of one thousand nine hundred nineteen live from London. This is the marketplace morning report from the BBC. The World Service. I'm Lisa Santarelli. Good morning the third. Most senior executive at Japanese automakers on quitting just weeks after taking the job the move comes days off to Boeing. CEO Suddenly resigned capping off another year of headline hits in corporate scandals. So companies need to adapt to survive twenty twenty handed. Is He also of broken. Business runs crisis consultancy or two strategies back then and today Carlos going is a larger than life figure. And you still don't have all the facts. There's still an ongoing trial. What we know is there's just been a lot of bad governance and not just in Nissan but also in the joint venture and the question is they've lost so much time and so much momentum now the? US market has started to turn on them so the question is will they have enough breathing space to come back from from this another company. That's had a turbulent letting years Boeing and earlier this week we saw its CEO. Dennis Muilenburg ousted can Boeing regain the public's trust Boyne is only at the beginning of of this long recovery process. What you're seeing now? Is You know the broad question. Can we trust this leadership. Can we trust this board. Can we trust this brand to get it right. You know so much which of US depend on traveling every week and when people at least in emails are saying maybe my family won't feel safe on Boeing again. I mean those are becomes very human very real for all of us. So I think Boeing teachers. We have something really fragile out there. Human Life Human Safety Trust and And really will require new leadership new structures structures and really going above and beyond but certainly for them the big fairly was initial crisis communication. And now it's just a matter of rebuilding that. How long do you think that will take years so in all the time that you've been doing this how broken does business remain challenging questions? I mean the the Every business is somewhat broken at any point in time. Because we're very human we make mistakes I think what defines a business is the ability to identify those mistakes and deal with them and how much of the problem is down to the decades-long attitude of corporate profitability. Above all else. Well look look at your pension fund. My Pension Fund is not looking at how how great companies are in terms of how much they help society how much they help. And the local corner They really are looking at money funds. That's what we know how to measure and unfortunately we haven't been able to measure and price carbon for example and bring that into the balance sheet in the PNL's canals of companies. But we were dealing with a world in transition right now where a lot of these things are are being questioned revisited. And it'll be an exciting new year. WHOA new decade ahead? I guess as of January one Jose Hernandez. Thank you say much joining us on marketplace. Thank you. Let's do the numbers. She has in Tokyo Shanghai and Seoul all advanced with the exception of Nissan which lost as much as three percent on news of that executive resignation Miss European markets remained closed for boxing. Xing Day but gold rose bowl a false data above fifteen hundred dollars an ounce overall. It's been a banner year for precious metals including silver platinum and palladium. Let's head now to the Horn of Africa. which is suffering from the worst locust invasion in seventy years? The insects have already destroyed. Seventy thousand hectares farmland in Somalia Malia and neighboring Ethiopia threatening base of the Agricultural economies the BBC's Thomasson Ford reports swaths of desert locusts originated in Yemen in have been invading farmland across the Horn of Africa since the beginning of July the search caused by rains. Intensified breeding is threatening food supplies in both Somalia and Ethiopia with Fiz they will move onto Sudan. Eritrea and Kenya. The insects can travel up to one hundred fifty kilometers the day with the wind eating their own body weight in vegetation daily although Somalia averted widespread from two years ago droughts led to large-scale scale. Food insecurity affecting more than six million people farmers already struggling say they're watching their entire crops disappear the UN's Food and Agriculture Association says. The situation is extremely serious. I'm the BBC's Thomson Ford for Marketplace Fifteen eighteen years ago today. A devastating tsunami struck Asian countries from India to Indonesia the BBC's Pernilla Krishna. In India report on the impact. It has on one fishing family family. The sound of waves crashing on the shore of Jenny the south coastal city of India disturbs yen. Fishermen Senate Raj fifteen years ago. He was one of the fishermen who lost his large boat which he invested his life savings in a nine point one magnitude earthquake regardless Nami that took more than two hundred twenty thousand lives many of them fishermen lakes Aren Raj. They stimulated cost of the damage to the South Ocean. Countries including India Indonesia and Thailand was just under ten billion years donors though the loss of certain drugs. Thousand three hundred. A dollar ship might look small. It permanently squashed his dream of living a decent life without any dead governor Eliana Bono number. We got a small fiberglass boats. I'm forty feet long. We can't use this for deep sea fishing. Only if we go too deep sea fishing can get a good catch with this small boat. We get money only for daily expenses. It wasn't just physical. Losses suffered by his family after the Sunni. His father suffered severe mental stress and was unable to meet. That's the dream to build a house and a car is still on hold a party not order now for the new political. My was some fifty to sixty feet long. It was painted ended in red and green colors on sue NAMI. When we saw the boat we were distressed? It pushed my father to attempt suicide. India's government allocated final eleven point eight million dollars as live for the revival of fishing and agricultural sectors still many small businesses and individuals never record the financial losses. Silence of doing so. Nami made him decide. He would be the last person in his family to go to the Internet. I am BBC's look for marketplace and finally as many of you clear out the Christmas wrapping leftovers. Japan says it has recycled eighteen thousand tons of electronic equipment but the twenty twenty Olympics. The process taken two years and created five thousand medals. Tweet me or recycling plans for the new yet. BBC Lucia using the HASHTAG BBC marketplace. A place in London. I'm Lisa Santarelli with the marketplace morning report from the B._B._C. World Service.

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Introducing AMERICAN JIHADI

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

12:36 min | 1 year ago

Introducing AMERICAN JIHADI

"Hi I'm Danielle Robea. I want to let you know about a new podcast. Series called American Jihadi over eight episodes journalists Kristof puzzle tells the story of the complicated relationship he developed with American born Jihadi Omar Hamami the FBI. Put a mommy on. Its most wanted terrorist list. Because of the years he spent fighting for Al Shabaab an Islamic militant group in Somalia Amami ended up on the run hiding out from the very group. He helped put on the map then he reached out to Kristof in secret to see if Kristof could help save his life. American Jihadi follows Christopher attempts to understand how. And why a suburban kid from Daphne Alabama. We transform himself into to the face of a terrorist group. It let him down one of the strangest roads of his career as a journalist and pushed him to cross lines he never thought he would cross up next the first I episode of American Jihadi. While you're listening go subscribe to American Jihadi on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you're listening now there's also a link in the episode notes that will take you there. In the fall of two thousand seven. A video was broadcast on the Al Jazeera News Network. A thin man in his early twenty s sits on the ground field somewhere in the east African country of Somalia he's wearing camouflage and there's a hand grenades strapped to his left front pocket help both. He's looking directly into the camera. But his face is wrapped in a green scarf so that only his eyes and a flash of white skin or showing America take into consideration arisen the example of Somalia man is the mouthpiece for new Islamic militant group in Somalia called Al Shabaab which means the youth in Arabic after fifteen years years of chaos and oppressive rule by the American backed warlords. Your brothers stood up in order to establish peace and justice in this land. The camera cuts to dozens of African fighters. AK Forty Sevens and grenade launchers. Video doesn't make clear is why they're spokesman appears there's to be a white American. The story quickly circulated online and even though the American had been careful not to reveal his identity and the small southern town of Daphne Alabama they knew exactly who he was. I came home from work one day in Verney wide as she'd what is always like mom you need and watch this the minute we heard the boys when you did it was now. It all makes sense. He's over there fight. He's not coming back and we saw allow my God. What is going on when it's going on the man? In the video was Omar Hamami. He would become become one of the. FBI's most wanted terrorists. I would spend years chasing his story. Attract his life from Alabama where he attended a southern Baptist Church and his high school class president to the frontlines of guerrilla war in Africa. And then I heard from Omar himself over time the relationship that developed between us awesome would blur the lines between journalism and friendship and wreck the tidy story. I told myself about the boundary between good and evil. I'm Christoph Puzzle. This is American. Jihadi episode sued one the Matrix I. I became aware of Omar Hamami in two thousand nine when he showed up in a propaganda video. That was put out by Al Shabaab in this video. There's no scarf hiding his face. He looks like a Skinny Che Guevara. His Brown hair is long and much of his face is covered by a young man's first beard thirty points. Omar speaks directly to the cameras. He's recruiting foreigners like himself to come join Al Shabaab encourage more of your children and more of your your neighbors. Anyone around to send people like him to this would be asset leader. He appears here's to lead Al Shabaab fighters in setting an ambush in to come camping. Omar White and his accent is so clearly American and yet there. He is sitting in Somalia with an AK47 surrounded by east African fighters hanging on his every word that the numbers they're close two thousand and among try to blow up his me vehicles as we can and kill as many of the can take care of his face cracks into a smile now as if he feels self conscious saying these things on camera picture cuts away to a shot of the Bush on the enemy approaches. I can in the. US Omar story was quickly picked up by Media Omar Hamami the US citizen born and bred in the American south south who is now a leader of a terrorist organization affiliated with Al Qaeda fighting in Somalia. Catherine what did you learn about this guy. Twenty five years old American on Jihadist circles as Abu Key or the American and I found his story fascinating. HOMER had grown up in a small town in Alabama. I'm going to a southern Baptist Church until midway through high school. His life had been almost a cliche of American normalcy. He plays Soccer Little League Baseball. Even took the prettiest. Yes girl in school to homecoming. And then somehow he'd found his way to Somalia where he joined up with Al Shabaab Group designated a terrorist organization by the State Department. He believes that the reward of Dada at actually reported from Somalia in two thousand six just a few months before Omar had arrived there at the time I was a TV correspondent for a program called Vanguard on current TV. We were sort of vice news before vice news existed. We try to report on stories that we thought the rest of the media was missing. We interviewed cartel hitmen. Russian skinheads folks like that. I wanted to do a story about Omar who by the time video started attracting attention. The situation in Somalia Malia had gotten worse than six and a half thousand people have been killed in fighting in Somalia in the last twelve months. Al Shabaab was a running gun battle with Ethiopian and African Union troops American drones fired missiles at suspected terrorists and suicide bombers were beginning to target cities who is just too chaotic and dangerous for me to go back. Security officials implicate al-shabaab in the assassination of aid workers and in a string of bomb attacks in Mogadishu still. I knew I wanted to figure out a way to tell Omar story a young American who had traded in his middle class life for life of struggle and one of the most dangerous parts of the world a guy with something to prove chasing his ideals. There was enough of me in there to make really want understand the choices he'd made all the way to reach. Omar by new family was still living in Alabama. So I got on a plane I landed mobile drove a half hour. East Daphne a small suburb. On Mobile Bay calls itself the Jubilee City. The streets are lined with massive. Live oaks the kind film directors put movies so that you'll think old south I found Omar's parents place at the end of a call to sack. The curtains were drawn tight but on the mailbox it said in large white letters schiff economy and I got a quick glimpse of Omar's father Shafique when he looked at me through the window of his front door. He had glasses and dark salt and pepper beard. I said that I was a reporter. He told me to go away. He couldn't talk to me before flying down. I'd also reached out to our sister Dean on facebook back on my rental. Oh car I check my phone to see if she'd written back nothing on the highway fast and Applebee's in K. Mart. I pulled pulled into the hooters. Because I figured maybe someone there went to high school with Omar. The bartender told me that while he didn't know Omar well in high school. He did just run into his best friend Bernie at Walmart. The bartender even knew the street he lived on Bernie Street. There were names on all the mailboxes except for one. I asked him kids playing street street hockey if they knew who lived in that house. You mean the Jews one of the mast- Jews. Yeah the ones with the Star Wars outfits. Do you mean Muslims. Yeah them kid shrug. Whatever Bernie wasn't home? Later that night we managed to connect and he invited me over to dinner with his family. Lose his mother his wife and two kids dinner Become thank you. Servers Bernie was tall and slender with blonde hair and a beard. He and his family are practicing. Muslims Omar converted to Islam during his sophomore year and soon after inspired Bernie to convert as. Well it's kind of hard for you to like envision. The guy's a terrorist. You know if you like lived with the guy and mule really good friends with the guy for so many years you just when you see them. You don't see like the terrier show I go. Hey this my friend that I haven't seen it a couple years Bernie's mother Sharon had converted to Islam too. Yeah I think when I met her her head was covered with black job added with tiny flowers for Sharon. Omar wasn't a terrorist. He was the person who started her on the path to putting her life back together. She told me that before she became Muslim. She hadn't been the greatest mother to Barney. He saw me drove a lot which is very repenting full. You know had a lot of shame felt that he didn't have a lot of guidance. He didn't have a lot of supervision. And you needed a moment. I wasn't here was Mar Sharon hadn't even harder time Bernie understanding how the Marshon Daphne became one of the FBI's most wanted terrorists. He's the boy who helped me learn to coffee. And that's just can't wrap my head around thinking that he would be a part of hurting innocent the people I just I just can't I can't fathom that Bernie and I watched the video. The ambush as they entered into ambush opening up with small arms fire black. He's the guy that everybody knows is in Ricky I noticed a Omar Jimenez Gateway. You know Kinda like grew up with in high school is a kind of a normal dude kind of like a job. You'll really charismatic. Cool guy main objective right and so the fact that we got to Martyrs is nothing more than if you music video and don't read the subtitles thousand. Just kind of like watching a little bit just like seems like your old friend just the different period close on over the course of the next four months I spent a lot of time with Bernie. We went to their high school and the Walmart where they both worked. We even flew to Toronto to see where he and Omar had lived for about a year before moving down to Egypt. Egypt is where they separated Bernie coming back to the US Omar disappearing eventually turning up in Malaya the long piece about Omar made for current TV. I try to paint a more complicated picture of him than just the American born terrorist but I was never totally satisfied. I was able to follow Omar's path from Alabama to candidate to Egypt and then to Somalia and Al Shabaab. I couldn't really get my head around though was why hit chosen the path to answer that question or any of the others. I still had. I would've needed to get to Omar somehow but not even. US intelligence seemed to be able to find them It would take another two years to get my answer as it turned out. I had it backwards. I didn't need to find Omar. It was Omar needed to find me a that was just a preview of American. She haughty to hear the rest. I subscribe to American Jihadi on Apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Listen First! DICTATORS, A Parcast Original Series!

Con Artists

19:55 min | 1 year ago

Listen First! DICTATORS, A Parcast Original Series!

"Do you love a good story about a real bad guy. I'm talking talking about the worst of the worst. If so I have the perfect Hong Kong show for you. It's cold dictators. And you can hear new you episodes every Tuesday. Heroes Caitlyn Richard to tell you more. Thank you every Tuesday in our new show dictators. Richard sure deny examined the reign of a real life tyrant exploring the unique conditions that allowed them to seize control. Hear more about the men who claim to love their country but were intricately responsible for killing millions of their own people in this special clip from our first episode. Learn about Benito Mussolini's transformation from Italian Superman to despise despot. If you want to listen to the full episode followed dictators free on spotify fi over. Ever you get your podcasts. When the Great War ended in nineteen in eighteen it ushered in a global depression both economically and socially the soldiers who survived came home two countries entreaties? They didn't recognize countries with new names and new borders racked by new fears even for the victors. A return turn to stability seemed impossible. There was a sense that everything was broken. Democracy had failed capitalism. I'm had failed. Socialism was failing to nihilism was the only philosophy that still made sense in Europe. Up The young people who came of age during this time were called the generation of nineteen fourteen. France called them the Generacion. Defer the gunfire generation in Britain and America. They were known as the lost generation in that kind of mass desperation. Peration certain things can slip through the cracks. The people let their leaders consolidate power. Let them blame. Foreigners let them do away with a civil liberty or two may trust it in despots because there really wasn't a better alternative until till before they realized it. The apocalypse they were trying to avoid was right there. On their doorstep those are the circumstances him stances that led to the rise of totalitarianism after world. War One to the rise of dictators. Welcome to dictators a new podcast original. I'm I'm Richard and I'm kate with this series. We want to go deep into the minds of some of history's most hated despots. We all know. Oh about the atrocities committed by the likes of Hitler and Stalin in the United States were familiar with longtime American adversaries. Such as Fidel Castro grow and Kim Jong UN on dictators will trace the psychological cultural and spiritual influences that transformed and these individuals. Either they were born psychopathic or they were hardened by circumstance without fail each went from wanting to save either country to destroying it. You can find all episodes of dictators and all other podcast originals for free on spotify or wherever ever you listen to podcasts to stream dictators for free on spotify. Just open the APP and type dictators in the search bar podcast. We are grateful fool for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at park asked and twitter at podcast or cast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review. Wherever you're listening? It really does help for our the first six episodes. We're starting with a bang as we explore the lives of World War. Two's three worst. Dictators Benito Mussolini Joseph Use of Stalin and Adolf Hitler today we'll see how Mussalini harness disparate social elements such as socialism. Nationalism Awesome and future ISM to forge a new belief system. Fascism this hateful ideology would be his chief tool in portraying portraying himself as the ideal Italian man and it would go on to inspire an even greater evil next week. We'll see how an alliance with that Greater Evil Nazi Germany led to Mussolini's downfall Mussolini lenient often thought of as Hitler's incompetent lackey his fellow fascist. Who Lost the war in Italy and died a day earlier on April twenty the eighth nineteen forty-five is body hung in a square and spit upon? But that is the modern perception in his time. Mussolini was considered a swashbuckling heartthrob a master politician. He rose to power in Italy years before Hitler became the face of totalitarianism despite destroying civil liberties in his country and exiling thousands of Italian Jews to concentration in camps Mussolini's people loved him and some still do. But how could the people of anytime view a monster on stir in such a romantic light and how has his global reputation fallen from that of the ultimate leader to the ultimate stooge in order to answer these questions. We must trace Mussolini's time as a socialist agitator in Switzerland to his years as a newspaper man to his craft. After you rise to Prime Minister Mussolini's entire life was a self defeating journey to fulfil a masculine ideal. He was born on July twenty ninth. Eighteen eighty three. His Father Allesandro leaney was his first role model. According to Spartacus Focus Educational Mussolini once told a reporter I come of peasant stock. My father was a blacksmith. He gave me strength. A A young Mussalini would work the forge with his father. Sweat dripping sparks cinching. His skin researcher Andrea Santio. Vanni describes describes the traditional image Italian steelwork as a completely masculine world where the natural characteristics of man string link courage leadership honor aggression our praise to excess Mussalini picked up on this learning to be strong to the full to express only the most dominant part of himself. He was taught that a man worked hard that he and his father were. The laboring peasantry has injury and across the country in Rome. There was a king and a church that reaped the benefits of their labor and didn't work at all even worse. There were Austrian kings to the north. Who ruled over land and people that were rightfully Italian Young Mussalini imagined these rulers? There's like fantasy despots almost inhuman every day at the forge. His father filled his mind with ideas about a revolution of workers. Just like them. Men like them strong workers who made up the real Italy who would one day inherit the earth Mussalini Mussalini loved his father and he wanted nothing more than to live up to these ideals. This belief system socialism with a little bit of nationalism nationalism would entrance and beguile him throughout the rest of his life but as much as he admired his father he was also confused by him. He talked about strength and honor but Mussalini gradually became aware that allesandro didn't exactly personify those those things. His father's main focus in life was not on his work or his family but his mistress who we often spend money on and while Mussalini has two siblings and his mother lived in a small home eating very basic meals this engendered a toxic dichotomy within within the young boy. He had a father telling him how to act like a man but had no strong male role model to actually show him what that looked like and and so he would spend his life trying to decide for himself how a man should act while nursing a selfish streak that would topple a republic because of his own father wasn't going to look out for the young Mussalini. Then who would. His mother noticed. STA growing anger inside of him in eighteen ninety two when Mussolini was nine she sent him to Catholic Boarding School in the hopes that the priests would be able to calm him. The opposite was true. The Catholics were largely anti-socialists. They took out their political beliefs on Mussolini. The son of a socialist is included withholding food from him and forcing him to sleep in the dog. Kennel his selfish streak deepened. As he felt that truly the whole world was out to get him at the same time some of the masculine ideals he had picked up from his father were being reinforced. Catholic doctrine emphasized the differences between men and women. How men were meant to be masculine leaders and Women Feminine in Mothers? This idea was driven home by the simple fact that it was an all boys. School with male. Only Teachers Mussolini's growing toxic. Fox's masculinity famously boiled over one day in the school yard when Mussolini's stabbed a classmate in the hand and so his picture of the I deal man continued to fill out the ideal man was a strong hard worker like his dad had taught him but as he had picked up from Catholic Catholic school aggression was a vital piece to the puzzle. He would never forget how the anti-socialists priests at treated him their pettiness. There need to exert control over a child was anything but masculine. He figured that his father's disdain for the church in Rome was as well placed that the Catholic Church leadership was just as weak as the priests at his school and so he decided that whatever the ideal man man was he wasn't Catholic. Mussolini managed to Survive School in fact he excelled at it. He could now express express his burgeoning ideals through scathing treatises and impassioned speeches in one thousand nine hundred at the age of seventeen. He was about to finish school. When he and the rest of Italy learned of the assassination of their King Umberto the first the king was killed by an anarchist socialist? A-LIST member of the working class. This would have inspired the young miscellany. His father's worldview was being validated. The real men. The working working men were rising up against the parasite upper-class King Umberto was only the second monarch to rule over a united Italy. He was hated by working class. Italians for his support of violent worker suppression. He had also embroiled the country. In wars of conquest in Somalia Malia and Ethiopia the latter of which ended in failure on top of that many Italians hated Umberto for his support of the triple alliance which was a military alliance with Austria. The country's former enemy the failure and ultimate murder of this monarch confirmed for Mussalini that socialism was the right philosophy but just because they were right didn't mean they had power a new monarch was crowned Victor Emmanuel. The Third Umberto Son Mussalini worried that he would be drafted into the army and forced to fight in some war driven. In by this new king he would not die for someone. He didn't even consider to be a real man. And so in nineteen to after about a year working as an elementary schoolteacher. A nineteen year old Mussalini fled to Switzerland hoping to find other Socialists. Other real men. This separation from his country ironically allowed him time to consider what exactly it meant to be Italian in Switzerland. He saw many of the same problems as at home. That country was already the location of many of the large banks. It's famous for today and there was a large lower class that saw none of that money. Switzerland was thus a hotbed for socialism. Mussolini met with Socialist. A-LIST leaders wrote for socialist newspapers and clashed with the police. This playground gave him enough distance from Italian politics to think about them objectively. The country had been united in eighteen. Sixty one under a new monarchy and with the prime minister and parliament. It was supposed to be a new dawn for Italy. Even a return to the days of the Glorious Roman Empire Fifteen hundred years before but this unification the creation had meant nothing for the average Italian they still have to toil in factories others in fields and mines and in Nineteen Tino to a majority of Italian still weren't even allowed to vote clearly unification. Just meant that the top one percent now oh centrally controlled the labour and product of the working class in Switzerland. Mussolini learned from leaders of Socialist. Thought men like Vladimir Lenin and Leon Trotsky to founders of the Russian revolution and Devout Marxists. They helped him hone the idea of what Italian socialism awesome should look like. They're awards of Italian Labor in the hands of Italian workers and no one else not the king not parliament not the Australians. But while men like Karl Marx were calling for self rule. Mussalini never seemed to settle on an exact prescription description for what a modern government should look like. His belief system was heavy with contradiction. He wrote that socialism. Socialism means the elevation and purification of the individual conscience and achievement will be the result of a long series of efforts. This seem to suggest that he believed in the combined efforts of society as a whole rather than the triumphs of the individual but he also admired the idea. Yeah of the best and brightest pushing to the top Mussalini read Darwin and absorbed his message of struggling against tradition authority. Be Dogma. This was survival of the fittest philosophy. The idea that people in power are in power because of certain traits. What's that make them better suited for it? Mussolini couldn't believe in both the collective achievements of society and the survival of the fittest. History would tell which side he leaned toward his racial politics were similarly convoluted Mussalini. Hated the nationalist first racist philosophies arising in Germany but at the same time he spoke of an Italian soul and was dismissive of their Slavic neighbors burst to the northeast so he didn't like an emphasis on national identity unless it was Italian national identity and he didn't like racism assume but he had certain racial prejudices it was almost as if the masculine ideals instilled by his father and sharpened in Catholic. School would never release their hold because as much as he admired. The worker focused ideals of socialism he also seemed to find socialism elitism somewhat feminine. Many socialists preached the idea of a global society free of borders. Where everyone was equal this this sounded like fanciful nonsense to him? Italy needed to become a world power. That was the only way for him to show the world that the hard lieber ideals of his youth were superior the only way to show the world that Italians were true men that he was a true man Dan his image of the ideal man was now the image of the ideal Italian man strong aggressive not Catholic flick socialist but only in so far as you maintain a sense of masculinity and national identity in nineteen. We know four a twenty one year. Old Mussalini was expelled from Switzerland and forced to return to Italy after inspiring multiple riots against police ace and falsifying documents. He returned to his home country with a New Vision. He would inspire the rural working class that he had been a part of love. He would do this by playing on the masculine ideals of hard work and painting the ruling class as a feet out of touch parasites he would paint the Catholic Church with the same brush and his fellow Socialists. Well hopefully they would go along with his emphasis on an Italian identity. Italian product in Italian hands not a part of some larger European collective that exploited their labor just as the king was currently currently doing his goal was to inspire socialist revolution in Italy but by the time he was done there would hardly be an Italy. Left at all to find out what happens next. Listen to dictators free on spotify or wherever you get your podcasts Parkas listeners. It's Alistair if you love con artists. We'd love to hear from you. By taking a quick survey your feedback will help us. Continue Making your favorite shows better than ever please visit podcast survey dot me slash con to answer a few short questions. It may seem small but your input really matters. That's podcast survey dot me slash con. Thank you for your continued support and for listening.

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Conflict is Solvable

Solvable

44:59 min | 1 year ago

Conflict is Solvable

"I may higgins football interviews with the world's most innovative thinkers working to solve the world's biggest problems. My name is victorian. I am the executive director for african youth initiative network ham from uganda and my solvable is work had an end civil wars in africa awfully in my lifetime so our guest. This week is quite a remarkable person. Victory was the first ugandan and the youngest ever african to be nominated for the nobel peace prize that was four his human rights work. He's basically a peace builder. Working in parts of the world where peace is most needed there are fifty four countries in africa and despite a long history of colonialism and the newer and potentially even more deadly reality of of climate chaos banney african nations are managing to flourish today though our solvable is fifteen african countries that are currently involved loved wars. Victor knows firsthand what it's like to come up in a war zone having spent the first twenty years of his life as a refugee he he was one of the three million people displaced by the civil war that has raged through uganda since one thousand nine hundred eighty s that conflict has now spread to the neighboring countries. The trees outside sudan the central african republic and congo victory was born in one thousand nine hundred eighty one during the ugandan civil war period. When many different rebel groups were facing and then in one thousand nine hundred seven he was only six series old on a particular rebel groups sprang up in northern uganda where he he lived with his family a group that became notorious worldwide they call themselves the lord's resistance army the l. r. a. and the l. or a grew increasingly violent against civilians abducting and killing tens of thousands of innocent people in northern uganda and utilizing many any others their brutality against children was particularly severe they would abduct children and force them to kill making them into child soldiers stories that was one of their hallmarks in two thousand and three victor's own brother o'meara was abducted by rebels. The family suspect o'meara was forced become a soldier and sadly. They never saw him again. Victor's life has been dedicated to his community and other victims of terror and conflict ktar namely by founding the african youth initiative network. Even as a thirteen year old he instinctively chose to fight for peace when manny around around him despaired and took up weapons today his organization works to treat both physical and emotional wounds and advocates a leadership that always chooses peace. You'll hear how in this conversation with jacob weisberg. It's a little longer than usual episode of solvable because victor story three is one that we just don't get here last if at all especially told first hand and with such grace victor what is a the problem of civil war in violent conflict in africa right now the problem of civil war lance enough right now is manifested in in mass movement refugee crises all over the continent how you've seen <unk> media the young people dying dying trying to escape from africa to the mediterranean sea seen <unk> outbreak of preventable diseases which escalate escalate and becomes more disasters because you monetize caught up in the struggled for survival. They can't afford to care for their on scene and increased death. You know to civil war. We ever seen a lot of xenophobic attack. In south africa. You know this the continent the search alleged so much mike dumps of conflict related movement that <unk> to martin sean tribal differences ethnic conflict and so much wrangled over properties and in so many ways not sure it is continues to be difficult to manage because humanity cottam fighting. What are the major awards in africa right now and how many people are affected how many people died in those wars and how many people die in our made refugees as a result of us wars to even look at it a bit <hes> backend history now steady as always saw that after every twenty s must atrocities pins in africa especially in the great lakes. We've seen the windows of nineteen sixties nineteen seventies nineteen eighties nine hundred nineties island is when we got the run genocide <hes> trust is in duffel in <hes> in congo in northern uganda population went through civil civil war over twenty years and central africa of mali somalia falling apart so if you look more as the great lakes region we are in that window right now wind of possible mass atrocities so we have continued to see the instability in somalia malia the al shabaab conflict of course eight the international community the african union walking towards tried to pacify somalia as opposed to the government but still it's a big challenging civil war that continues to to to evoke nautilus amalia battles so the entire region and <hes> west. We're seeing right. Now is the continued conflict in d._r._c. Unfortunately congress people have been looted west of the west in life rich nations such vast potential the congresspeople never seen a moment of this at all and you wonder how long the score but also we're seeing in different countries in the region that ugandan rebel groups in congo the a._t._f. Being massacred manali is linked now to isis and they'll do goodman within east africa live in southern african countries and this is growing up to be a potential disaster conflict but of course you're aware of what's going south. Sudan last five years has been so vicious that hundreds of thousands of died millions displaced hi. I'm from northern in uganda where we do not walk to support post conflict recovery but also this the region that currently ost of a one point two million refugees from southbound from congo from central africa public. You can imagine the pressure. Administered has been through the world for over twenty years without so much now. It's condition. Condition is forced to austin idol million refugees so the pressure never stops so the conflict in south down in indiana see central african public malley is horrible straighten malaise not even getting better anymore and of course lever labia on the potential egypt exist assist struggling to stabilize in west africa of course the so much to do in terms of his daughter colleen injustice started conflict that has not been addressed and this has the potential so the number of people dying. I can't tell exactly so many people are dying. Everyday due to war related crisis either been killed. Kale battlefields says out of war poverty disease. I want to hear about your story. I know you grew up and spent most of the years of your life in a refugee camp. How did you end up there. I was born in northern uganda in the district court later and i was born in one thousand nine hundred one just immediately heatedly after dictator. Idi amin was deposed of power and in that community there are more than ten end rebel groups operating including the current. Government wasn't the bush fighting an way. I grew up. I could see the only vehicle source chattels chattels military truck doesn't either vehicle the only flying object the plane. I saw was cop that the militias cop down jet fighters and and bumping us and when that say what is going on another along discourse so has more in conflict ah griping conflict and then it went on to to community experience continued to cut the wrestling by never in cultural tribal groups than the load ami it might and that became the west of the western uganda's of conflict it started close to our home and i we they media target by the way but also that the media our committee immediate by the government battlefield so we we became the center of battle for both government and law designs. I mean and this winton as a child at could see i was wondering how long was it going to hand. It took us twenty s to get out of that so mcgruff at grubbing well. I i grew up in com spent my child. You know in the growing up. I studied in the calm. I survived all the war related challenges including health education feeding showtime and one of the people who spent over seventy s eating one meal a day. We didn't have food <unk> up in dumps of education occasion. It wasn't the more challenging of course in conflict. Education is not a priority. The biggest weather is forever. If out get the next meal that was the most wedding experience as a child because it was always <unk> tuft way that wake up in the morning until four p._m. You've got nothing to eat and then you eat until the next day for pm. That is the life. I grew up in life. I survive and it's up to struggled with my kitchen with my health. I survived that was twice about brick in my community and live alone meningitis malaria. I went through many things that woke on and you you've talked about the cycle of violence and revenge that people who are victims of war become more innocent want. I want justice but it perpetuates the cycle of violence. How do you break that cycle to break. The cycle of wall in violence is is a dan festival walk with so much amount of drama and the trauma needs to be hill if not ill from a christian at a war then becomes war trauma from war cycle. You need to get to the point of breaking that and deal to becomes generational and when children are born in conflict dependence will always be asked. Why are we being killed while we be targeted and this the question that most parents doesn't doesn't have an answer but then the question comes in dependent which appoint of who we are suffering because of that trip with suffering because of them that's soleil telling the child who their enemies so that trans generational transfer trauma of of pain is like implanting in the new seats violence that child was being told we enemy sack so you have somebody to hit as soon as you and understand the well you're growing bring up with wu enemies with what you want to do next time you have opportunity to advance to strike about to let them feel the pain but as a child i wanted wanted to study to become a doctor to become a generalist to become a pilot like assumes that win woke him everything around a lotta became a survival. You're walking now and all of a sudden people get blown by landmines right in front of you. You're playing with your friends and within few minutes <unk> at their ticket and never been seen a game you just playing football dallas momentum to a blink football. We made our own bottle. Because there was no football uh-huh <unk> about one hundred has amid our hoon ball and web geeking kicking one of the elder kim and so our bottle made out of legs no playing around hand falling kim on picked kids what kickings admit out and bought event excited and then when he unveiled it he finds something wrong. It was a bomb it was unexploded bomb and then little that this is bob from with took of in minute actions crying on shouting on with free is this this bomb blew over landed investment to be dead the questions with next then becomes you you had the next in line. You can be blown off. Even even walking alone even be abducted. Every painful moment was to see a mom leaving home to fetch water. The big fear was will succumb back on my life will soon. They'll be blown by landmines. We'll see not be by the men in uniform so this every child's biggest fear node the feeling of london as powerlessness. You feel unwanted. You feel you don't belong so this is the kind of spirit kind of feeling that renews and continues continues to appreciate you know the train of violence because a child grow that have to do something to prove to my parents that i loved them for the to me by retaliating one of the cruelest aspects of this is is children who are kidnapped turned into soldiers their victims and but they become perpetrators as well does vedat cly. I'm almost obvious that a child victims <music> if not <unk> rehabilitated becomes an adult patriot <unk> so indoctrinated that told would kill how to kill where took could went to kill and this all the land and once a child is formed and mid two goals legs villages so painful unlikely northern uganda what i saw kids as young as ten years and below while abducted and forced to kill their own parents before taken taken. You don't want to come back home. Whatever you do back home because you killed your on fire that in front of you at assist us they saw that you're you're the one hitting the one beating beating until they died and then it took away so that keyed wayne is in captivity whenever want to come back home that is vicious. That is very challenging. Now also comes into the issues of parents plays penalty go through too much during war as said women. I know in africa that sense of feeling that a man you must be strong to provide for your family to protect your family when you are so pilots. There's that moment will that you have to do is to protect your home and that moment vulnerability. He is when a lot of men give up either. The picked up the gun to one fighting in being policy in politics on hopelessness old will the committed suicide. A lot of men died during conflict. A lot of women demonstrated might more strength during confident men because women was okay. We're we know we're supposed to be so powerful with supposed to be able to facilitate and they will do everest protect that family but now the post conflict verity will oh is manifesting mall in women than men because throughout all this time for women going through this process the took too much. They sort of strengthen demonstrated. You know power in defense of advice t but now a lot of men in the post conflict are not as affected that women against these manifesting so heavily women and trauma the pain and this is a challenge this the reason why is the reason why mothers going through this kind of pain after do something now that's when they become adult temperatures looking forward to the elliott revenge to strike back and that's why i think parents families as a big role because war destroys mostly but an institution it feminist on a bad a society don't wanna know what made you growing up in a refugee camp as a young man choose the path you did and think about breaking this cycle instead of as you said the path of despair or continuing the cycle of violence and seeking revenge yourself have seen the bests. It's you might do on the west. Humanity under i have is the point where i was exhausted. I was diet was tight of my own insecurity my fear i was. I wasn't sure if i was the one was wrong as a child at captain asking myself what did we do to deserve this kind of it would be raining heavier than this but you have to land and sleep in the rain without tent without covered without shelter and and this was not for a year waited for war to end to yes took ten years of completely as what was discontinuing stronger stronger uh but then as a child it's reached a particular moment when i think i was on the brink of giving up like in other kids so my friends were running in and out from monday to monday ever next to ours you. In rancho being gesture chest is evolving attacked us <unk> land mines and life become so complicated and i so my friends volunteered summited volun- aww abducted said if i stay. I'm not being protected. Have no choice but let me guess go if i go. I'll probably have a gun out been ramon security. I'll kill somebody. Somebody might kill me. These are despair. We went to fetch water in the morning in a group of about eight to ten then with us on our way to fetch water to people in fund blown bed landmines boom we took off running back <unk> contain jeter gone for what the crying running towards home on the bottom and my mom told me to pick up some votes because they say now that the land manager that means the rebels have out so guam get the goten victim and then <hes>. I left my friend tom. I went like for all in all. The press took less than five minutes speaking to god bullying at home. I kim an asthma mom. Where did my face go. The devil been taken away by. Wu said that i would just took them right now. And that's how i survived that one particular moment i was lost said no in the morning somewhat were blown belen mine just now sam articulated and the question is would next to become me i was next and that's when i realized that it was no longer far and it was just a matter of time before i'm taking and we say no might it'll be fine that us coupon constrain as much as we can then there was all of a sudden guns iran and came back when he came back home after few hours before like so many did booties at home and i remember my mom shouting and crying loud women the gun that does estimate the gun manufactured the gun shouting at every one of us. We don't have the question. We'll have the answer to the question movement again. That's it kept it would make the gun why gun coming to julian women. What did they do who mid the gun. Battles like see was crying on. Your tells was powerless. We didn't have answer to a question but that was out. Take <unk>. The next day has been the government military truck. Kim and everybody was leaning towards the comp. Send mums at what is that the state the governor has brought a lot of weapons saying anybody who can shoot a gun as lonzo shoulda now so they've been brought the child-friendly uniform military uniform so it meant that women men children everybody gunfight at the dan should want become. Ill uniforms. I saw people planning and i'm not going to just go so my remaining friends out of despair picked up the uniform big up that we were trained for few hours. They were deployed to fight levels. You are how old i think i was thirty. Somewhere younger than me actually went on become the uniform. We didn't have clothing some went because they wanted something to wear myself. I'd only one peta upshaw does nothing so when i told him on it don't go when they went kids. As young women with children in the back becomes against the train at nova that the rebel waited for them way laid them on bush them mm-hmm disarmed him somewhat <unk> somewhat their hands knows he has lips cutoff and somewhat taken those whose leeann what this figure those were mutilated was sent back home with that body parts. Dom addicted to the government to move seven. This was a message from allah evening. There was crying on over there. Come on this is it. How long can this go the next. Dan said i'm not going to sit and watch what i did. I went and i sat three hundred meters away from this child. Soldiers couldn't send an started pushing my friends who are coming to join this new come committed but it was out of frustration coming. I would stand there. I would stop them. Talk on go. It'll be killed. People thought i was joking. I became hit it by some of them. My name also future to the rebel come. That was the one discouraging young people from joining them. My name was with the government troops that was accompanying discouraging patrick young young people want to protect their community and for the first time buffalo bills on the government funding our common enemy that was me it went onto become so or difficult and so complicated we were struggling <unk> in always with education parents couldn't even afford by pencil that and the west of the west game i lost my mom went to stack. Maria does no medicine and devoted to town. Which which is about twenty five kilometers was blocked by several come so the rebel rebel comes. We tried as much as we could to get medicine for mom mom but there's no single government sent us lucky no privates l. center. We didn't even have money does nothing then brad when we followed was two years older than me. We sent him to tom that can you guana pick up medicine from the government spill in town air to walk walk through the bush took him almost twelve hours to go through the bush from hollywood money <unk> late night this when it got to town any went to the government hospital and say our mom is sick and we don't have we don't. We don't have any means to bring up. We don't have a bicycle even so although i've come to get medicine and then they also told him that no you have to pay an equivalent of offer data to get the medicine he didn't have the money when back come without <unk> battle went back and said we don't manage so maybe we should take mum getaway of taking out to dostam drug was blocked loved no vehicle no bicycle nothing we had to make some reeds to carry through the bush protect those people but we tried our best as children brin taking us dispense little bit but when he went through the moment when we almost stepped on a landmine went through bush's could we survived and now a mom so that i held was deteriorating. It's not easy animal an interstate. I know you're trying our best to my health but don't minded about my health minute you security. I don't think i'll make technical. We took a back on c. Went on so that was difficult. Vetted difficult of course has funded will remain so slowly. The children were much stronger. Tweet children were stronger than our own father was so depressed and was on suicide decide watch because he didn't have anything to do was lost yours. Powerlessness was unable to do anything in two thousand three after struggling so hard to survive to leave my brother whom we sent to pick up the medicine e my night went actually to the village village so we had some had two counts wants to pick it up a lot in the sim bicycle with him for the first time i'd walk so at bought the vice call and that was the first bicycle <unk> that bought for him and he was happy mine that day he was because he was playing for the people. The company went went went together with him at home. We spent a night in the same house same building and in the morning said now the road is not divisive evasive <unk> hate of you with another young man any follow the bicycle because from the same family would be <unk> for us to walk together doklam it has from i'm we ended up on bush so the level started chasing us but as the walking does another woman walking as five hundred meters in the road anti this is so as being chased by the rebel me and my friend and the two calls back home and those <unk> i saw them being in just under soon rebelled with a gun jessica us said no way to stop antilles shoot us and kept inviting ran across the valley and ended that i will stop so rendered taken that brought up on he added that were take any was panicking and freaking to come and the solar stopped him said no don't go so if that taken with shuttle covering them if not that then go back to remain for me. I was also outside of debris afraid that my brother was waiting to come on ed downwards. That's no fun nor out we had was docked at night when sold as stolen nobody is going to go to town. We're blocking the road that will come onto kim on the tenth of december two thousand three unfortunate up to now. He has no would come back. He was doctored together with two cousins another closer fumble amendments. They will never come back and that was does the moment i i. I was just lost all the wishes in mind. If i had a gun i would have probably double attack double myself. I was going to one man army had either wishes that if i may be the admitted mistake by not picking up the gun by not becoming a saudi arabia but something in me kept telling me that no no no carry-on and um your choice to be peaceful so i started walking to come. I would just walk like i was lost. I was mentally unwell. I think i was also angry and still wondering what to do walking through the calm people children who lost both parents is when they killed for food aid would be kicked out the sick would be kicked out of the line. I was angry at people. Were kicking them out. I feel i wanted to like fight them physically. Why are you kicking. The most vulnerable people outlined because the only was strong enough would get food. It was holds a scuffle and i started some of them. No acid acting like a weird person guan pick. These people were weak and sick. Put them in line and i said no you touch them out. Deal with you and get food. Food are not outlive people so me and say what is this guy doing voice c._n._n. Where he's coming from a different come what is he doing elected the next day but at least something was banning in me. That's the way it went onto forty seven edges quote africa youth initiative network because i was lost. I wanted to talk about these. People didn't understand when i started to iraq with organiz ation no money for two years struggling to look for asking people can give us to under dot <unk> funding. I know we're not here to give you money. You started it in one camp and did people join you and work with you. Yeah started in welcome. I went onto another the company helping these people and then said okay. Maybe what i'm doing is right. So what i need to do is to now have a former institutional. Backing people becomes suspicious suspicious. If you have good intention in a community where violence the out of the day that'll so strange that there was somebody who was kind but all the international ngos wet all the money or the big money. They never give us anything on said no. We are not yet to support to hear to alabama people. After we started the walking talking about peace meeting for me abducted meeting for michelle sodas and families people told us why are you talking about peace that you've never seen we could talk about peace withhold his wounds our body. I could understand their pain and sunday fear in one of the incident. I was talking to young people or counseling and made this young man who told me study hallows abducted and what was told to do highly kill people abducted that people and there was one particular story that was actually talking about alley operated in my home area any went on to talk about the charge because we build a judge at home insignia india in that camp. Actually we used to hang out on the judge. The judge was exactly in our home. We build it than a window into probably mall <unk> one particular situation however abducted what did did how they came on mitchell <unk> as sleeping in the judge which was foot amid as away from the house where people were sleeping would be gutted would not be allowed to know what was going on explained abduction mountain bradtha so he explained how it took my breath. It was a very difficult gonda how the tightening <unk> loads a now destroyed to cross the what what time and majority of them did not swim and i knew my brother. I don't know how to swim so i when you talked about that moment of forcing them to swim yet. It did not swim swim with a loads of luggage on the head. I say no. I don't want to know what exactly i've been. I didn't tell him you didn't tell him. I did not tally realized it with your brother. Yeah i did not realize and i told him. Can we stop the discussion of some imagine sick and i come up tomorrow. Then said yeah of course gone gone comeback. I i was freaking out. I was documents. I didn't know what to do. I wanted to cry cry was shocking in pain in shocked in and what about my name my family fate in the morning. I went back to it again i said. Can we continue talking because i wanted to know what happened. My brother when we started talking it out the money to cross this river. They went to the field. They went to primary grammar school where they had so many rebel groups assembling with companion abducted numbers of people so then outed did did people tried to escape the killing them in the in the in the playground and i again equipment stored animal and i said okay eh <unk> stop now come back after <unk> discussing something out because the study will be hitting is innocent is china. He was never commander goes as command command responsibility. That does the commanded. You have no choice but to do all to something gotten to go back to him. Go back it. It could be a good opportunity for you to work with. Somebody will probably would be a good tool for you to mobilise other people like him. I went back after few days amid within minutes it. I won't walk with you said. I don't care <unk> education ally campbell. Does your your site. It would have been through too much but you're you're so strong. I thank you can talk to and what a lot of people have been. Slow terrible lifelock your that moment of giving hundred ten appointment letter to this this young man promising to bay and could end of eighty dollars a month. I've never felt anything like that. The process of building the pepe aw handing it over to women saying that i want to walk with you a boy to give you appointment to become one of counselors will training to become baton better offensively heaviest load of pain of fear of determined felt of me you know for for the first time i became myself by <unk> handing over that trust that love that can't kindness towards my that's a doctor i felt at peace with myself and i felt at peace with him started filling up with a while to me. That was the most powerful moment coming out of my life and i today he works with us. He still works with you yep. He doesn't know that he doesn't know that he that he was the abductor of your. I have no told him and did you ever find out what became of your brother. No i tried a lot. I was once working on the radio. You one of the doctor commented victor said yes. We listen to your program. When radio 'cause i was being dollar sexual productive <unk> students into a program and radio in the bush and then you did you have a bread was abducted said yes to one day was listening to you and he was crying as i was listening to voice okay what happened then. I don't know what happened because this radio officer than those government copter came and said donde me bombing us. A lot of children were abducted. A lot of people got killed. I don't know what happened to never saw him again. We all went in different that action so that'll be the last day i saw him and that is the last version add abuts abroad victor. Tell me about your work today today. How the organizations grown what what you're doing and where you're doing it we would say. Can we use our pain transforming to do something good to help us build self and then we used that story to help us build african youth initiative and since then we've been working to support i bought medically obsession victims of mutilations of gun shots drama healing victims of sexual violence. It's ongoing up to now within the ongoing. Medical sizable comes conduct is now about twenty. Two thousand people have wanted those whose lips it's not e._s. <unk> cutoff amputated sexual abuse. I know that we have <hes> a group of footage to young people. I'm working with permanently employed with us. After them educated down degree oldest others opted masters but half of them are not educated the people when you go to my office you'll find <unk> via devin hands by they're doing terific web that experience compared to no decrease in the world that wonderful people was studies empower themselves empowers atas not <unk> people heal doc physically and emotionally it will always be difficult talk about peace and justice and forgiveness because i've helped people it does open france does not to walk with young people mobilize and train them as lead us in in lead in piece in recouncilation in mediation and conflict prevention this doing with the young right now in other parts of the continent we do a lot of continent-wide action programmes walking with the young people it marble def- the focus alcon replant dispirit seeds and couch of peace among the young generation how come to support healing lee integration but also support community in a efforts towards reconciliation in addition to natural so wack to promote they international criminal justice win promoting a lot of the the i._c._t. The international criminal courts to prosecute mobilize victims as witnesses before the court. We are happy and frustrated at the center because the whole will thing we agreed up front was moved to ensure victims. Get justice would supported we supported isis is so much i still <unk> point of saying that for the sake of justice trial must be bid at home and when you talk about a division of ending violent conflict in all of africa africa. Is it really about this movement spreading. We're talking about bringing the international system the international framework nomadic frameworks and u n others play us on buds and bring onto sim table the traditional african practice. They'll boon to to the things that have held the continent together if you bring them together and integrate them didn't say who add a place in this. The building is not only lead us. It's not on else is not politician but as politician youthfully we mainly that piece at omb defines the business community defined piece <unk> admission so we were saying if we can help bring people together through the peace academy <unk> greta platform will become train youth as bill less launch a movement a continent wide peace movement because we have an african outlook want to build a peace academy ganda biden start conducting it draining opportunity to support youth leaders from different parts of the continent and after forming the web network of this bill as we launch peace movement it is our hope that through the gimme into three s time we can have an african led model these building operation not peacekeeping oppression we want model is billing operation something that we know where the next war is going to happen even right now. The world knows where which is going to go through the next war but nobody's doing doing anything to prevent it want to be able to be preventing conflict upfront but online it is possible when the local homegrown sevilla's almgren conflict flicked mediators not waiting for outside went to come but we've got empower ourselves and critic platform where can also strengthen our humanitarian response capacity. Luckily there's so much respond to protect support one another but because we are not mobilized connected. It's so difficult to it victor. I know a lot of people listening to this. It is moved and inspired by your story as i am hearing it. What are some things that people can do to support your peace initiative but also more generally to promote prevention anti-violent <unk> conflict in africa and the world is full of problems and some people find find out the suffering or the war or paying too far away from me just because it's enough rakha doesn't affect my business in europe in america. It's okay to some people that feels. I always wanted to reach out to people. Would you really want to africa and <unk> african people to live life of peace and the continent is seth. There's so many ways one let us about join hands bought the local <unk> access local bill local young people it has me to see that dying <unk> trying to escape the continent that diving into the unknown unknown in the water africa as given to so much wealth from this planet. I think they were time has come to get africa to forty would be willing. We would be happy fit to be supported to help build peace academy support our work in training the peace activists across the continent. We need to change right now in africa africa but we cannot shoe chain planting seeds of destruction we need to shoot chain planting seeds love and care for fellow humanity and that's what but i think you can do us a listener. Don't think is too far away. If you love me love our people love the continent you could help us what west planting the right seat ride generation at the right age that has had a platform welcome promote the culture maybe into in a lifetime raising new mandela raise the new desma to lead us who have gone so much care on trauma for humanity and the people give so much and i do. I do believe so many africans really a hoping that one day there will be peace and they will live better happy. I figure i feel like i've just been talking to some unlike the people you mentioned and i wanna thank you for for who you are and what you're doing and for sharing your story with us some incredible personal testimony there about life in a war zone in northern uganda from victor chen on his journey through it and ida versus versus the late archbishop desmond tutu said my heart swells joy to see oaten one of the new hope for africa and it's it's a rare and beautiful thing to know that much victories work with the peace academy and his work with survivors of conflict is coming down the line. You can find him at african. Youth initiative dot org solvable is a collaboration between pushkin industries and the rockefeller foundation with production by chalking blade pushkin's executive producer is mia lebel engineering by jason gambrill and the fine folks at g._s._i. Studios original music composed imposed by posco wise special. 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August 6: Under the gun

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August 6: Under the gun

"This is a c._b._c. Podcast in the fall of nineteen ninety eight an elderly woman known as the cat lady went missing. She had a very very distinctive silhouette and very recognizable and you'd see you're walking into town a handkerchief on her hair long overcoat. Take somebody that lived on the street. All police could find were her. Thirty cats shot dead. I always knew something had happened to her. Did vanish like that uncover. The cat lady case from c._b._c. Podcasts is available now. Hello hello. I'm peter out of paradise sitting in for carol off good evening. I'm chris boden this as it happens the podcast edition tonight under the gun after the killings in dayton ohio facing pressure from voters the governor of the state announces new gun control measures but a state senator says getting those measures passed. Will we close to impossible city orphaned. The mayor of mogadishu dies after a terrorist bombing at his office and an adviser tells us she hasn't just lost a friend and she's losing hope for the future of the city making history by remaking it the late tony morrison wrote stories that hadn't been told in a voice voice no one had ever heard before and tonight a longtime friend and collaborator shares her own stories of the person behind the brilliant words. The watched pot boils over a bbc woman opens her home to a local garden tour only to have it rated later by police because she had three cannabis plants. Yes which is legal but they were visible from public place which weirdly is not straight to the point inist and unwelcomed summer tradition begins again in germany as people are kept a week by their loud lustful neighbors who can't be reasoned with because they're hedgehogs wchs and for one thing it doesn't say hi love you guys but a new artificial tongue isn't just silent after a lot of whiskey it's also much it's more accurate at tasting whiskey than the growth sloppy tongues we store in our dumb human mouths as it happens the tuesday edition radio that knows when it's i licked today day more survivors of the massacre at an el paso texas walmart are telling their stories octavio was inside the store on saturday morning when the shooting broke out he he was shot in the foot. His fifteen year old nephew was shot and killed. Here's part of what mr leonardo said at a hospital press conference today. I heard the gunshots aren't we in line to open a bank account. We saw people running and i grabbed him by the hand of all crap so i grabbed them and shots were fired so i took him to the bank and <hes> well everything happened the nephew in the back to where it was hiding he he shot lining foot like i said he could have easily shopped me but he do meanwhile the city of dayton. Oh hi oh is dealing with the aftermath of its own weekend mass shooting nine people were killed when a gunman opened fire in a downtown neighborhood on sunday at a vigil for the victims is republican governor. Mike dewine was interrupted by calls from the crowd who demanded he do something today. Governor dewine said he got the message. He announced. Seventeen new gun unrelated measures here. He is explaining one of the proposals today. I'm asking the legislature to pass a law to allow courts to issue safety protection orders the orders which would be granted upon clear and convincing evidence will allow the removal of firearms from potentially dangerous individuals and get them the mental mental health treatment today need get them whenever help that they need seashell. Thomas is a democratic ohio state senator who has tried to introduce a number of new gun laws in the state. We reached him in columbus senator. Thomas governor dewine wind says he has finally heard the call to do something about gun violence. Why do you think your republican governor is. Finally listening listening now at the <hes> republican governor finally loosening <hes>. I go back to <hes> governor casick. Try very hard all right to get some <hes> gun legislation parents which was red flag. He and i work together to try to push through. I ever the general assembly the majority audience feel to move this issue following. I suspect that we need the same rhetoric that occurred the last time the governor governor is powerless unless the journal simply agrees and based on some of the other items that are added to the bill. I don't forsee the <hes> the bureau moving forward and so just a few days after many people in your state were gunned down in a in a mass shooting and he said look got on expect anything to happen this time either. Where does that leave you. It leaves me frustrated. When i heard the news was like a dagger in my aunt because of the amount of work i try to get what would be considered commonsense gun legislation to <hes> aw minimize the potential of these kinds of things happening so talk to me about some of these commonsense measures that you have introduced politically three. What are some of them that you've suggested well. Obviously i suggested universal background checks even my colleagues on the other side of the hour. I thought aww they would be reasonable. When nearly eighty to ninety percent of the people that live in ohio agree to universal background checks we also talked about closing gun show loopholes in makes no sense that need vigil coming to a good show purchase from a private seller a not goes no background check. There's nothing that makes no sense. You know i had a quick look at an article that listed gun bills pending at the ohio state house. I think there's at least ten or eleven in there some <hes> in the senate some in the house and each one is stock in some sort of committee in in other words. There have been no legal changes in your state as it pertains to gun laws in the state of ohio has been under one in two thousand they have been through and just a simple vote to pass commonsense gun legislation could leave very simple if they were serious about taking on this issue and not afraid of beer constituents who <music> are gun lobby and who are n._r._a. Supporters longer this stuff. Your governor said he's going to introduce measures like safety protection orders and increased background checks. How much difference do you think measures like that would actually make in preventing mass shootings like the one we taught in in dayton this weekend. This man had a contact with law enforcement and there were concerns by members every school. Even the administration of school had to remove him from school because of the kinds of threats that you were make head we had a red flag lauren place it just maybe once he went to purchase that weapons it would've shown up in a in a thorough background check investigation. My point is that bena stock the situation doggone sure rick. Give us an opportunity to to dock that situation and just so i have. I understand this correctly. Yeah i understand that a red flag law in your country is a prevention lloyd allows police or family members to go to court and say look the firearms should be taken away from that is that what a red flag law essentially it takes the gun away from the individual it allows to temporarily remove him from access to that farm well. There's additional evaluation being addressed. He accused shooter in dayton was able to arm himself with a high-capacity rifle with one hundred round magazine and fired forty one shots and less than thirty seconds a semi automatic weapon. How how is anyone able to get their hands on that kind of firepower being able to offer that type of weaponry which is basically a weapon phenomenon war being able to argue that over the habit delivered to a gun store then growing pick that up. Why would we want that attack in the hands of folks on streets. So what is it mean. Say the right to grow arms if someone needs an handgun learn to protect themselves in their whole nothing wrong with if they want to have a gun for recreational purposes but do we want weapons of war. You're for someone who's just about weapons. That makes no sense. President trump is set to visit dayton tomorrow is he welcome in ohio ohio. I have two people like i would hope that he would come bringing the common common sense thoughts but if he's gonna come and giving his condolences and given a lip service to how we need to fix our laws those are got problems with that. Hot steer hurts when i'm thinker just possibly this could have been voided at we immediately. He didn't put in place things that will allow for early. Warning signs. Give family members tools that they can use to provide right law enforcement community. Some assistance give the laws to psychiatrists so they were have some tuesday help out. We need to bring all all these folks to the table and say how can we do this so that we could make it as difficult as possible for individuals to get their hands on these types of weapons senator thomas <hes> thank you for making time for us today. I do appreciate it. Thank you have a good day bye. See-saw thomas is a democratic democratic ohio state senator we reached him in columbus <music> in nineteen ninety-three three tony morrison became the first black woman to win a nobel prize in her acceptance lecture. She said quote we die. That may be the meaning of life but we do language that may be the measure of our lives unquote. Tony morrison died yesterday in new york city. She was eight years old but but if language is the measure of a life. She'll be immortal in two thousand fifteen. The author of beloved song of solomon jazz spoke with carol on this program. She just published published the novel god help the child during their conversation carroll asked if she identified as an african american writer or an american writer it has to be both you know it's like unal. Tolstoy was a russian writer and he was a world right and you know. I don't know why there has to be. I can't be both things i think of myself or obviously see i think of ourselves as somebody named chloe wofford but out in the world you know i relate fundamentally as has an african american phoebe and what is hanging over dad or sheltering feeding that is the right. That's what i am a writer pulitzer prize winner nobel laureate and presidential medal of freedom recipient tony morrison speaking with carol on as it happens in twenty fifteen from nineteen eighty nine until her retirement in two thousand six tony morrison taught at princeton university where she met her longtime friend colleague and collaborator claudia brodsky. We reach is professor brodsky today in paris france claudia brodsky. Let me first say i'm sorry about the passing of your friend tony morrison thank you. I appreciate straight that. When did you first meet each other well. It was back when tony was first about to be employed by princeton. In university where i had also just been employed and i was in the audience of her kind of inaugural lecture and buy some extraordinarily fortuitous gesture i was invited to the very small dinner with her after that lecture and from that moment on i it is fair to say that we were friends. We both share the the same belief in the power of language to reach people and many people remarking on toni morrison's career as a writer today but as you said we were friends well what what was tony morrison lake is a friend well <hes> every milestone that and every difficult moment that i went through she was there for and i'll give you one example. I was an expectant mother of a second child more or less at wit's end and <hes> and sh. I was searching desperately for a name for my child and she said <music> okay. Claudia calmed down just call her chloe. I'm giving you that it. We'll suits her perfectly. Take that as my gift to you now if that just simply a pitta mayes d- her understanding outstanding of the gift that languages that's not just a name. She picked out of the air right that that's tony morrison. That was her name as a young child old. Yes did you name your child chloe. I suck secretly did and then it was the perfect name and she understood what she was doing when she gave it to me. It was like i'm giving you this. That's my gift to you. Take it and stop worrying and you know she often do that. Just like like enough claudia. Stop worrying do the following and that was one <hes> problem that she saw from me immediately now as far as friendship goes the most meaningful ones of course are given take and so we've been talking about some of the wonderful memories and things tony morrison did for you but you also reciprocated in many ways i'm sure in in one of the ways is when you worked alongside her for many years of princeton. You edited some of her work and i'm curious to know what does i early. Toni morrison. I draft raft actually look like well. I certainly wouldn't say that i edited but i will say this for a writer like tony who wants to know specifically how words land how specific turns of phrase are received for her to own ways send me her drafts of venue scripts was an honor to me but also something that i knew she would take seriously she would listen. Listen to what i had to say. She wanted a reception of her manuscripts from someone she knew also believed that the precision of language really counted and i was more than thrilled to provide her with responses but would i never edited. I would never say edited. Yes we share that as well and i was glad to give more than glad to give for my every sponsors. Those were some pretty wonderful moments. Undoubtedly tony morrison <hes> was a mega force. She's often celebrated for her writing about about the black experience and there has been long been a conversation about who she is writing for. What is your sense of who she hoped would read her are work. Who was she writing for. She was writing for everyone. She was wiping for women. She was writing for men. She was waiting for african american people. She was writing for all people not african american that was her extraordinary ambition and and i think that we can say she achieved it and she knew she would only achieve it based on her use of language and to our ability to imagine what the experience of actual factual data was is like she took great pride in the fact that she had researched every detail of her works and that her contribution contribution was to add experience to those facts and those experience she always hoped would be available accessible to everyone <hes> she wanted to be and i think she achieved the status of being canonical in the very best sense of the word today. Oh you know those of us who didn't know tony morrison only through her works are thinking of passages that she wrote thinking the books we want to revisit or read for the first time time and i'm sure you're thinking about all that too but i'm also wondering as someone who is a dear friend tony morrison. What are you going to miss most about her. The perfect interlocutor someone who understood that when i read what she wrote or spoke to her i would know she meant what she said and vice versa someone one who believed that communication without screens or as possible when i last <hes> met with tony it was quote unquote all times that is to say she was alert to everything that was going on and i'm gonna say this one kind of wonderful thing which was had she was more optimistic than i was about the outlook for the nation it. It was extraordinarily to me. I mean she looked at me as if i were just someone immature enough what i express my dismay she said oh come on claudia we've been here before and that again was something quite extraordinary about having her as a friend the perspective that she provided ms brodsky. Thank you for sharing a bit about your friend tony morrison with us today. I really do appreciate it. I pleasure thank you. We reached professor claudia brodsky in paris chris yesterday her friend the nobel prize winning author. Toni morrison died at the age of eighty eight <music>. Anna minton runs a wellness collective in revel stoke busy. She dabbles in gardening and she she considers herself a law-abiding citizen and she was until she opened her home for the city's annual garden and art tour where her three legally allowed pot plants were on on display. A generous community minded gesture that ended with a visit from the r._c._m._p. We reached intimate in revel stoke. Okay ms minton so oh. You were getting home from dinner on friday night. When did you realize something was up at your house. <hes> as we were approaching the house <hes> <hes> we notice all the lights on which is not something we do and that my dog was tied up outside <hes> which we were putting inside because there was cougar sightings and so when you pulled up to your house and notice the lights were on the dog was outside then what did you do. We didn't really think anything of it. We walked past our tenants and they were like are you guys okay and we're like yeah. We're fine like completely clueless as to what had just gone down <hes> and then when we entered our house <hes> right as we entered our house they had put a stool with the search warrant on a stool in front of <hes> as we entered then i look grabbed it and went and asked her tenants. I was like <hes> what just happened. You know they're like yeah. We we when we got here. We thought you know like maybe the coup with the first question to the cats like are you hear about the cougar <hes> and they're like we have a search warrant and they said one cop kept them away from them. Basically searching through the house and <hes> that there was three cruisers and five cops you had been growing three pot plants which you are allowed to do like every other canadian under the law and our country what what happened to your pop <hes> <hes> on sunday july twenty eight <hes> my husband and i opened up our garden for local fundraiser for the local food initiatives and and <hes> from what we understand a local r._c._m._p. Officer saw are three plants and found that ground to open a search warrant because we cross section fifty six g on the candidates act of putting plants in public fifty six g says you are not allowed to have pot plants. That's on public display something like that yeah and that's where the search warrant that you found taped to a stool there on the stool when you walked in your front door after going out for dinner. Dots what what the r._c._m._p. Had left left. You say why they had entered her house and searched it. Why they had grounds for the search warrant was yes because 'cause we had <hes> we had plants in public yeah and so when you got all those pieces kind of together in your own head. How did you feel when you realize your entire home had been searched by police lease because of three pot plants that you have which are legal which you broke the law by putting them on some sort of display for the public. I was heartbroken <laughter>. Ah i was incredibly heartbroken felt invaded. I felt betrayed by my local r._c._m._p. My house feels tainted <hes>. I you know like it's it's. It's a really weird feeling to be completely on and this all goes back to the garden artur. You hosted in your house so the implication as i understand is that by opening up your home meant you violated the law by putting the pot plants on displays at your understanding of it is what i'm believing. I still haven't heard from the r._c._n. Piece i yeah i don't fully know their their side of the story still <hes> but from from you know like i said the pieces put together <hes> <hes> when i announced to the rest of the garden tour members that that this had happened a few of them spoke up and said whose name was on the warrants and they said we know as a fact he was present at the tour <hes> now we're fearful were next <hes> because i was not the only person to have <hes> kind because plants in my garden the law states that you aren't allowed to grow non medical cannabis that is visible from a public space that would include people on a garden tour. That's where the fuzzy line drawn i guess and <hes> that's what i'm hoping to get clarity on and so is my community and i think many other british columbians that are freaking out it <hes> that that they thought this was legal such as i. You said that you haven't spoken with the r._c._m._p. As of yet have you reached out to them <hes> to be honest. I don't really want to talk to them. <hes> they've hurt me and they could've come and talk to me right at the get go so <hes> i've left it for my lawyer and and the media to deal with it even if what you did is technically against the law what what do you think about the use of police resources and time put into investigating what happened on this little garden tour or three popout plants that you've had in your home. I don't think r._c._m._p. In in whole are necessarily bad people but i do think that their actions winds were unjustified. They could very easily just come and communicated with me to let me know that i had drawn the line so i i'm very disappointed with the waste of resources and a simple profile check. <hes> probably could help them out now that you're three pot plants <hes> gone. Are you planning to grow more plants. Once i better understood the laws because it looks like there's lots of <hes> fuzzy gray areas <hes> yes i'd love to i think canvas isn't beautiful medicine. I'm grateful that it did become become legal. I think it's a harmless plant. Cannabis has been legal in canada not even a year now <hes>. What do you think what happened to you. What do you wanna say to other canadians who may be growing their three pot plants in their home and having a garden tour whatnot <hes> i guess the more cautious versus that these laws aren't as exciting and pretty as they seem that there's they've put a lot of red tape around it and to be very aware of their actions and r._c._m._p. Seem to be serious about their as well enforcing what they can for me. I thought i was following the law and i guess i wasn't so to to not get get the same rude awakening that i i was granted. Ms meant and please keep us informed. <hes> what your discussions with the r._c._m._p. Are and what they tell you about a why they came came into your your home and took away your plants thank you. You're very welcome. I will keep you guys informed. Thank you for sharing the story by now. We reached anna minton and revel stoke b._c. We reached out to the r._c._m._p. But did not hear back by airtime and you can see pictures of ms minton's pot plants on our website c._b._c. dot c._a. Slash a i h abdirahman among omar osman fled wartorn somalia in the early nineties but after spending years in the u._k. He returned to mogadishu with a vision for a city free of violence. Last thursday mr osman the mayor of mogadishu died after he was injured in an attack at his office on july twenty fourth al-shabaab has claimed responsibility hold on ali is a somali canadian nurse practitioner who left her family and ontario and moved to mogadishu three years ago. She was both a friend and an adviser to mir osman c'mon. She was at his office just hours before the bomb went off. We reached hoedown alley in mogadishu and there's elliot. How did you learn about the attack. I i had just arrived at a place where i was having a coffee and some snack <hes> just finished the meeting and a friend of mine who was sitting next to me. Decides the medicine penalty has been bombed in the mayor is injured. <hes> i was like what that's not possible. I just came from there and i try to make some calls trying to sort of confirm. <hes> i was able to get through to anyone because some of the phones were busy and others were just is ringing in not being picked up <hes> as tried to frantically call every phone number i can remember more information was being passed through a friend who was with me through social media and the like and unfortunately what i had feared the the most was true an internal attack on the municipality satiety severely injuring the mayor and killing several colleagues and sorry difficult now you you said you had just just come from there. How close of a call was this for you. Extremely close. We had just spent the entire morning early. After noon. Conducting a meeting with the new secretary general representative to somalia <hes> the on some mission mr james swan made a courtesy difficult to the municipality and mayor and i really spent about two hours with him that morning he left about eleven thirtyish <hes> and then then after that <hes> had some more work in the office and decided to leave rug two p._m. After the mayor had just left and that's <hes> after that meeting is when i had gone to the coffee that i mentioned in that's where i learned of the tragedy. What do you know about the attacker. She was <hes> <hes> uh-huh by all accounts not a suspect to anyone <hes> blind young woman extremely articulate intelligence <hes> <hes> young woman who was a passionate advocate for those disabled and her office was next to mine. The mayor appointed her as has <hes> a director for disability in the region by all accounts. This was not someone that you ever expect to commit such atrocity. <hes> and i think this is another part why this attack is much scarier than all the others and it puts our security at at a much bigger concern given what you've just said. Do you have any sense of why. Do you think she may have done this. I don't you think there's any way of comprehending but from what i can <hes> what i've seen in what i do see our us who've been brainwashed into thinking ooh what they're doing is somehow <hes> religiously viable <hes> and that they are carrying in the name of islam but truly is the most and slamming act to take the life of innocent human being. There's many layers to why a young people join these extremist elements breath in particularly post conflict very fragile. <hes> economically disadvantaged youth particularly. She's of someone in with disability. She probably faced a lot more challenges but it also speaks to the fact that we're not doing enough to gain back could trust in in in the confidence of the youth in they are able to fall prey to ideologies that are such against humanity not and i think for her to take her own life and take the lives of ten other people. Is something fundamentally a challenge that this country faces in in in other places tonight just particular to this country. Tell me about mayor osman what what was he like and what does the death of him mean for for mogadishu in somalia mayor osmond also known as an engineer <unk> yeti so <hes> he was the youngest in his class engineering in class in in the term it is so indicates sort of someone of a small petites figure but also in age much younger than the classmates he was a a true patriots. Were dedicated to this country. <hes> came back from the astra's well <hes> he lived in the u._k. Raising a family chose to come back to somalia to be part of the building <hes> an amazing human being compassionate patient very humble but really invested in seeing somalia beat the evil of of terror on terms of for the city. It's a great loss <hes> <hes>. I think the shouldn't feel orphaned today. He had you know a dream. A vision of making the city great again <hes> he used to reminisce sir every time that we had visitors come to the municipality he would always open you know this is. The show was known as rivera of africa. <hes> where european tourists you'd prefer to <hes> vacation so that really was his his sort of <hes> what he hung onto in terms of memory free from his youth and he wanted to bring more to that point in further and that's how he lived every day in terms of how he governed you mentioned engined that he had you know moved abroad and come back to help improve life in somalia and so have you and so many other somalis who have who've left your home country country and gone abroad and and have gone gone back. Why was it was. It been so important for you to move to somalia. I think like many others <hes> who left and have come back. There's a sense of duty sense of honour wanting to come back and contribute to improve the conditions sion's of millions <hes> whichever little small contributions we can make as no recently also last a canadian journalists auburn l._a. Who chose is the comeback. Who's a good friend of mine. I think there's a calling for some of us who have been blessed to live in canada or in the united kingdom the end benefits from that privilege of being canadian or a brits with all the education all that life has given us the opportunity in one to share that in contribute that to the resurgence of somalia not to make it a place where all of us in the end if we wanted to come back back permanently can live and i think mary so really passionate about that. He always talked about one of his children to return to a safer more habitable somalia. How fearful are you for your life. You've lost two good friends. In the last month. We spoke to back in twenty seventeen after another attack in somalia. Malia left six hundred people dead. We know that somalia has great things but it is also quite can be quite a dangerous place and i'm wondering if you're thinking talking about leaving and how fearful you are for for your life <hes> yes i remember twenty seventeen <hes> connected over the biggest tragedy that this country has face you know in terms of loss that was huge but what happened that <hes> july twenty four probably has a bit more impact cocked in in more painful because it hits so close be navigable hours but also in the heart of the municipality with all kinds of layers of security breached and the mayor being killed among other nine how scared i am. I think this one this one has really resonate a lot more than any other attacks that have happened in in in the city. Am i scared absolutely my considering to leave. Yes <hes> haven't made that final choice yet but that is something very. I have a family <hes>. They constantly have been on the phone asking me need to to live in an at minimum. Take a break. You know we all come back. Knowing what we'll do. Show is a dangerous place but this this attack is different from all the other in the place where we feel more secure has been violated and i think that is probably the biggest track tragedy that we'd we have right now ms l. e. as you said you have <hes> three children who live in the west <hes> you are canadian and and you said mulling over whether to stay in somalia or whether whether to leave. How do you even make that decision. I it's not an easy decision. <hes> like i said you know to be kids. <hes> has been <unk> sisters franny who are desperately the word above me and i absolutely understand that's <hes> and then there's also the the part of me. That's been here for such a long time. The seeds <unk> that sees the need not to leave because if people like me leave <hes> it just leaves you know that space for others to fill that vacuum and we lose the bigger picture and i think sacrifices sometimes are are made for a greater the purpose of not that i'm wanting to sacrifice my life but i'm saying in terms of y._m. Still keep coming back to this home. <hes> i have a hole hold in canada and i love what candid has given me in. That's a big part of me but there's also that sense of duty that you know if all of us who are or in a place in a capacity to have have facts. Don't come back or leave because it's more safer inconvenience. I think that would plunge this country into deeper holden. It is <hes> so it's it's it's a struggle. It's not something lights or easy either way if i go. It's not easy if i stay. It's not easy so it. It really is is is a challenge. Please stay safe and thank you for talking with me today. I do appreciate you making the time and i'm sorry again for the for the loss of your friends. Thank you peter take you hold on. Ali is a somali canadian nurse practitioner who is friends with the late mayor of mogadishu abdirahman omar osman. We reached her in mogadishu and there's more on this story on our website c._b._c. Dot c._a. Slash a._i._h. Yeah i h <music>. Paul peterson is urging movie goers at his drive in theater peter to put safety first. Mr peterson owns the mustang drive in near bloomfield ontario and last week. We spoke with him after a four month. Old infant was killed by a car at a drive in theater in quebec the cinna park boozer bill on montreal's south shore after that interview one listener called talkback to share the steps. Her local driving takes to try to keep movie goers safe hi. My name is faye williams. I'm calling from show with rhode island. My comment was answered. Dan persona island. We still have a basic drive it and what i find extremely helpful is at the beginning they actually show video saying all the do's and don'ts of the drive in very aries like short and to the point and one of the things that actually shows on video is a vehicle backing up and running over teddy bear and it just kind of next. You really really see how he could happen. Another thing they had is a huge grass area at the front of the driving right in front of the a screen where there's already seats there. There's plenty of room to put up the tent but they have an actual like designated area for anybody wants to enjoy the drive and sitting inside but that video is amazing instead driving owner who's like speaking in it and <hes> it was locally produced and filmed and anyways. I i think that that really goes a long way to really illustrate <hes> safety rules of the drive in six ms williams and thanks to everyone who called and wrote to comment on this story or anything else you here on the program you can find us on twitter and facebook both at c._b._c. as it happens all word. Our email is a._h. At c._b._c. dot c._a. Talk back call four one six two zero five five six eight seven <music>. You may have a taste for scotch whisky. You may even be the type to swish it around in your mouth before announcing you detect notes of leather leather toffee. I dunno hotdogs but no matter how discriminating your palate and artificial tongue might be better. I know that's enough to make you spit that single malt onto your smoking jacket but it's true engineers in scotland developed an artificial tongue with incredible abilities ladies to distinguish one whiskey from another alister. Clark is a lecturer in engineering at the university of glasgow. That's where we reached him. Mr clark first first of all. What does this tongue look like well. It's not a big and fluffy and pink like our thongs. It is comprised of millions liens of tiny little metal taste buds so there are a thousand times smaller than the width of the human hair and they're made of aluminium gold and when you shrink metal time time to that size you take on these really weird optical properties so let me find light up the can shine a color back at us. So what does it look like. It looks like a little patch of for a little green square on a patch of gloss and how does it work so the optical responsibly in other words the color that shined backout is really affected acted by the local surroundings so it gives you one signal win nothing on top of it that when you put a complex mixture on top of it like oh whisky that color you're did it appears shift ever so slightly so we measure that tiny little colored chest to build up a statistical map all the chemical compounds in that liquid record something that quite analogous to the human sensation of taste. You know i'm not a super taster so i just taste things. I don't have precise taste. I suppose how how precise is this device well relatively precise we tested it on three hundred times under different samples and able to identify old at one of those and so when you've done these three hundred samples what kinds of distinctions can it make between different whiskies. Well alec can make distinctions based on age safe. You take same whiskey. That's the age for different lights time. Tell you that it can also tell you if there was keeping age that different from type of a cask shetty casco bourbon castro so it is very good at picking up his tiny minute chemical differences in whiskies who would want us. This kind of device who who are you thinking might have used for this well to two things really <hes> one is a eh huge counterfeit market in counterfeit whiskey <hes> and so the ability to be able to tell whether something is real l. whiskey. That's come from scotland or ireland on something that has been manufactured elsewhere not passed off as the real thing valuable thing to be able to do but also maybe more mundane tasks like just monitoring the quality or the taste of beverages on a production line. It doesn't necessarily have to whiskey. It could be anything where you might want to make take a measurement identification of complex chemical mixture so other liquids beverages. You could train it to luther poisons. You could train it to luke four of contaminants tablets and a water supply for instance a river. Maybe something's happening obscenely commercial and so of all the liquids in the world. Why did you who works works at the university of glasgow side whiskey. Yes maybe a rhetorical question. Jessie sold the inviolate of whiskey for the liberal but it just seemed like we you know we we because we from scotland to where where the where the counterfeit whiskey is thing thing when we're looking to test this tongue so what what better way to test to excuse how sizable is the fake whisky market as as far as i'm aware that hundreds of millions of british pounds per year so relatively large and it's a mixture of things it's a mixture of high value inch ancient whiskeys which auction for tens of thousands of pounds per bothell and often turn out to be fake unfortunately more mundane things like regular twenty dollars bottles of whisky that are entering international markets the asian markets in particular that are being passed off as a scotch whisky taught the remanufactured elsia fiqh label flopped on now. There's some skepticism out there of your artificial tongue when it comes to whiskey tasting charles mclean who is one of the top whiskey tasters in the world said this to c._n._n. He said flavor assessment in the whiskey. Industry is done by smell taste and and texture of all the senses employed smell is the most important whisky blenders and quality assessors relied entirely on smell. Our sense taste is crude in comparison to that. You say what i would say that we've chosen to call it the tongue but what was actually doing. It's it's making measurements of the chemical mixture liquid. It's exactly the same way that your nose washer. News is taking in particular of the liquid a making the faith mortgage speaking assessment like the chemical composition of that. You may not know that happening but that's the same sensation so smell and taste the federally particularly when you're trying to make artificial versions often also i would say that you know this is not a replacement for people that are super tasters that work in the whiskey industry industry the benefits industry this is just another to that people can use in order to monitor the quality of liquids. This is the kind of devices can fit my pocket and take to you know power bar if i order a whiskey deceive. I'm getting the real deal at the moment. Nobody's approved to tighten sites is rather large microscope but there's no reason light can be made much much smaller to get to the point where you could do that. Yes mr mr clark. Thank you thank you bye-bye alister. 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That's because hedgehogs all over the country are disrupting people's sleep with their sensual screeching according to the guardian they make sounds sounds ranging from quote quiet sniffling to hissing snarling purring whistling clicking and even loud screaming on quote. Maybe the racket is because of the prequels but apparently they're snarling. Screaming sounds like people so every year around this time all over germany the the police are called about a sexy disturbance only to find hedgehogs instead of humans and since urban hedgehog populations are declining experts are asking people not to do anything to mess with the creatures cacophonous quite either put in some earplugs or watch them in respectful silence and if the last sleep makes makes you feel prickly well imagine how they feel. You've been listening to the as it happens podcast. Our show can be heard monday friday on c._b._c. radio one and on sirius x._m. 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"From from New York this is democracy now as president trump tries to distance himself from the racist chance of send her back about Congress member Ilhan Omar that he paused for thirteen seconds to let ring out at his campaign rally this week we'll speak with Professor Abor Mex- candy a descendant into slaves who asks am I in American then is the British government says it's identified the person who leaked cables forcing out the British Ambassador for calling trump inept we look at the real life political thriller of a British British intelligence specialists who risked everything to blow the whistle on U._S.. Dirty tricks at the United Nations in the lead up to the Iraq invasion of two thousand three to keep him as the Americans want us to help them get a U._N.. Resolution fool you work for the British government. This propose world historically on I worked British intelligence government can nigh to the British people. Catherine gun worked for British intelligence when she opened a top secret N._S._A.. Memo that reveal the U._S. was spying lying on U._N.. Security Council members in order to pressure them into supporting the Iraq invasion. She leaked the memo to the press which began a chain of events that opened the door to putting the entire Iraq invasion on trial Katherine Dunn Joins US Live and Studio to tell her story along with the reporters from the observer who she turned to with her leak. A new dramatic film is out. It's called offical secrets all that and more coming up welcome to democracy now democracy now dot Org the Warren Peace Report. I'm Amy Goodman in Washington D._C.. Capitol Police arrested Seventy Catholic nuns and clergy Thursday as they held a nonviolent sit in protest inside the Russell Senate office building against the trump administration's inhumane treatment of immigrants and asylum seekers more than a dozen protesters stood in a circle holding the photographs graphs of migrant children who've died and U._S.. Custody reciting their names. The latest protests came as immigrant communities across the country of prepared for reported ice raids that were scheduled to begin last weekend but have largely not materialized meanwhile a group of Indian asylum seekers in El Paso Texas have launched a hunger strike from inside an ice immigration jail demanding. They be released while they appeal their deportation orders one of the mental the Texas monthly if go back to India I'll be tortured and killed can die here. It's the second time this year that Indian men have led hunger strikes at the El Paso Processing Center back on Capitol Hill House Democrats grilled President Trump's acting homeland security secretary Thursday over migrant family separations the deaths of children taken into custody and reports of squalid overcrowded and dangerous conditions and U._S.. Immigration Jails this House Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings questioning the acting V._H._S. chief Kevin McLennan doing a great job right what you're saying. We're doing our level best in a very what does that mean. What does that mean when a child is sitting a nail and feces can't take us our aw come on man what's that about none of us would have children in that position they are human beings also at Thursday's house oversight hearing in Congress member Alexandra Castro Cortez Confronted Kevin mcelwain over hateful messages shared by thousands of current and former border patrol agents on a private facebook group the groups online discussions exposed by PROPUBLICA earlier? This month are full all of homophobic anti immigrant in the Sajjan content about migrants and asylum seekers as well as racist attacks on Texas Congress member Veronica SCO bar and on Cossio Cortez who's depicted in a photo shopped image being sexually assaulted by president trump trump. This is Congress member. A CASIO CORTES QUESTIONING mcelwain. Did you see the posts mocking migrant children's deaths or did you see the post planning physical harm to myself in Congresswoman Escobar. Yes and I directed investigation within minutes of reading the article. Did you see the images of officers circulating photo shopped images of my violent rape. Yes I did are those officers on the job today and responsible for the safety of migrant women and children so there's an aggressive investigation on this issue preceding you've heard the chief of the border patrol the most senior female official and law enforcement across the the entire country say opposed to not meet our standards of conduct and they will be followed up aggressively president trump sought to distance himself Thursday from racist chants made by supporters at a campaign rally in North Carolina Wednesday evening. Speaking from the Oval Office is trump insisted that he quote felt a little bit badly about the chorus of send her back directed at Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar a naturalized US citizen who was born in Somalia and came to the United States as a political refugee. She has been a U._S.. Citizen longer than the first lady Melania trump president trump made the claim. Even though video of Wednesday evenings incident shows he did nothing to intervene as his supporters chanted send her back for thirteen seconds has a history of launching vicious anti-semitic screens President President trump waited a full thirteen seconds before continuing his verbal attack on Congress member Omar this came just three days after he attacked Omar and three other progressive democratic congresswoman of color on twitter writing why didn't go back and help fix totally broken and crime infested places from which they came speaking from Capitol Hill Thursday Congress member Omar accused trump of quote spilling his fascist ideology on stage Omar later flew home to her district restricted Minnesota where she was greeted at the Minneapolis airport by scores of supporters chanting welcome Home Ilhan Residence Nightmare while you're watching in his nightmare is seeing a Somali immigrant refugee. We are in the ring we are in the People's House and we are going to continue to keep fighting until the America. We know we all deserve. Thank you later that evening. Congress member Omar tweeted home sweet home on Thursday. The chair of the House Homeland Security Committee asked the Senate <unk> Sergeant at arms who also chairs the Capitol Police Board to enhance security for quote certain targeted members will have more on President Trump's latest racist remarks after headlines. The House of Representatives approved a bill Thursday that would raise the federal minimum minimum wage to fifteen dollars per hour twenty twenty-five while ending subminimum wages for tipped workers in the Senate Republican majority leader Mitch McConnell has said he will not allow a vote on the minimum wage. Meanwhile domestic workers and their supporters are rallying behind a bill that would grant them the right to overtime pay meal breaks and collective bargaining under federal labor law domestic workers are excluded from any of the protections most workers receive the domestic worker's bill of Rights Act with change that the bill is co sponsored by Washington Congressman Barr Pramilla Elegiac Paul and California Senator Twenty Twenty presidential hopeful Kamala Harris. This is Jen Poo director of the National Domestic Workers Alliance need for child care and elder care is exploding especially as the baby boom generation ages ages and people live longer. These are jobs that are not going to be outsourced. They won't be automated. These are going to be a large part of the jobs of the future and now thanks to all all of you. We are going to make these jobs good jobs. Domestic workers are among the lowest paid workers in the United States and suffer high rates of wage theft and sexual harassment on the job president trump said Thursday. He'll nominate Eugene Scalia as this next secretary of Labor. <unk> is the son of the late far-right Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia he previously served as the Labor Department's top lawyer under President George W. Bush as a partner at the law firm Gibson Dunne and Crutcher Scalia has a long history of opposing labor unions on behalf of corporate clients including Walmart much of scalise legal work has been aimed at stopping the dodd frank financial regulations enacted after the two thousand eight financial collapse last week. Alex Acosta resigned as Labor secretary amidst. The uproar over an extremely lenient plea deal he granted to the wealthy Serial Child Sex Abuser Jeffrey Epstein in two thousand eight when a Kosta was a U._S.. Attorney in Florida meanwhile federal judge in New York has denied bail to Jeffrey Epstein declaring him danger to the community and a significant flight risk U S District Judge Richard Berman pointed to a raid by investigators Epstein's New York Mansion earlier this month that found piles of cash stashes of diamonds is an expired passport with epsteins photo next to someone else's name listed under a Saudi Arabian address. Iran is denying president trump's claim that the U._S. military shot down in Iranian drone in the Strait of Hormuz competing claims came as the trump administration demanded Iran immediately release an oil tanker seized in the Gulf by Iran's Revolutionary Guard Iranian state media said the foreign ship was carrying a million leaders of oil being illegally smuggled out of of Iran and Afghanistan at least twelve people were killed almost ninety wounded Thursday as a pair of car bombs exploded at the gates of police headquarters in the southern city of Kandahar. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack hours later for at least eight people were killed thirty three others wounded when an explosion tore through the entrance to a university in the capital Kabul. This comes this U._S.. Officials in the Taliban continue peace talks and cutter and did ending the longest war in U._S.. History now in its seventeenth year in Kyoto Japan thirty three people were killed Thursday after a man burst into an animation studio douse the three story building with a flammable liquid and set it on fire. Police arrested a forty one year old man after the arson attack on the Kyoto animation company witnesses reportedly heard the suspect shout they stole my ideas and they copied my novel has police arrested him. If convicted the men could face the death penalty back in the United States the National Weather Service this has declared an excessive heat warning for vast swaths of the Midwest and east coast with warnings that high humidity and triple digit temperatures could combine to bring heat related illnesses and deaths in Washington D._C.. The heat index could reach one hundred fifteen in degrees Fahrenheit this weekend when some two hundred ninety million Americans are likely to experience temperatures above ninety degrees this comes as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration reported that worldwide surface temperatures last month with the highest ever record for the month of June a finding consistent with global heating caused by human activity the Environmental Protection Agency announced Thursday it will not ban the widely used pesticide cler para fuss. Even though the agency's own research shows it can cause brain damage in children. The Obama Administration said it would ban the use of the toxic chemical in two thousand fifteen but the rule never took effect and was suspended in two thousand seventeen by then e._p._a.. Head Ed Scott Pruitt this comes the trump administration is preparing to roll back government regulations on nuclear power plants with staffers at the Nuclear Regulatory Commission recommending allowing the nuclear industry to carry out more self inspections while slashing the size and scope radiation protection and emergency preparedness inspections nuclear plants and those are some of the headlines this is democracy now democracy now dot Org the Warren Peach report. I may need Goodman on Thursday state. President trump attempted to distance himself from the racist chant centre-back about Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Moammar ran out through his campaign rally Wednesday night in Greenville North Carolina in fact he did nothing into intervene as chant rang out pausing a full thirteen seconds in response to his own verbal attack on the congresswoman Omar blamed the United States for for the crisis in Venezuela we think of that one and she looks down with contempt or the hardworking American saying that ignorance is pervasive in many parts of this country and obviously and importantly Omar has a history of launching vicious anti-semitic screens trump paused for thirteen seconds for send her back to wring out through the <hes> rally trump's remarks came one day after the House of Representatives voted to condemn his racist tweet telling four Progressive Congress women of Color Freshman Representatives Alexandra Cossio Cortes Diana Presley Rashida Ilhan Omar to go back to the crime infested places from which they came three of the congresswoman were born in the United States Omar's and naturalized U._S.. Citizen who was born in Somalia Malia. She has been a citizen longer than first lady. Melania trump despite outrage about trump's tweets the president double down on his racists attacks saying the congresswoman were hate-filled extremists who are constantly like trying to tear our country down speaking to reporters in the Oval Office Thursday trump attempted to distance himself from his supporters chance your supporters Leslie Chiming Chintzy sent back stop after this well number one I think I did I started speaking very quickly and it really was a loud I disagree with it by the way but it was quite a chant and I felt a little bit badly about it but I will say this <hes> I did and I started speaking very quickly but it started up rather rather fast as you probably know telling her supporters now I would say that I was not happy with it. I disagree winded. I felt a little bit badly about it. Trump said though again pausing thirteen seconds to allow the chance to ring out Minnesota Congressman Bar Ilan Omar responded to the president's actions while speaking to reporters Thursday. I want wants to make sure that every single person who is in this country who's aspiring to become part of the American fabric understands that nothing this president says should be taken apart. We are Americans as much as every one else. This is our country and we are where we belong three nights people on my election night in the state of Minnesota we don't aww come refugees to represent us in Washington and as much as he's spewing his fascist ideology on stage telling you a citizens to go back because they don't agree with his detrimental for mental policies for our country. We tell people that here in the United States dissent is patriotic here in the United States. This agreement is welcome. Debate is welcomed and especially in the People's House. All of our voices are uplifted heard on Thursday night Congress member Omar arrived back in the twin cities in Minnesota to a crowd of supporters at the airport her constituents headey new chant to greet her. Welcome Home Congress member Omar re tweeted this video Thursday night writing going home sweet home for more we go to Washington DC where we're joined by Abram Kennedy professor of history and International Relations and founding director of the anti-racist Research and Policy Center at American University. He's the National Book Award Winning Author of stamped from in the beginning the definitive history of racist ideas in America his forthcoming book out in August how to be an anti-racist in his latest piece in the Atlantic headlined AAH My an American Professor Kendy writes President Trump's tirade against four minority congresswoman prompts the question. Whom does he considered to be American Professor Sandy? Welcome back to democracy now respond to all. That's happened this week. The House didn't censure President Trump front but it did criticize him for his attack on the four congresswoman telling them to go back to their crime infested <hes> to go back to their crime-infested countries and of course they're all a U._S.. Citizens Yeah you know I think Marta response to this week is I think we have to continuously recognize that. There's a certain segment of people in this country tree who imagined the home of America is white people and that when when people of color come into that home and criticize that home <hes> they say how dare you come into my home and criticize my home you might as well go back to your home home but what if it's their home to and what if they have the right to criticize it to and what if they're trying to make that home better and I think this sort of week has showed us that power sort of imagining who is American. A and what is America and of course that's that's a debate as you know amy. We've been having for a very long time in this country. Title of your piece is am I an American <hes> explain slane why you think first and foremost this idea of go back to your country or in my case go back to Africa is something that that people of Color and black people have been hearing really from the beginning of this country and it's always caused some some of us to question are we in American at the same time particularly in our era is rare that a white person. Here's this idea here's this sort of shout to go back to your country because it's assumed <hes> that that they are an American and so I I just wanted to really speak through and talk through and really really think deeply about the literal impact that what trump said is having on people in connect that to the history of people being told to go back to their countries in your piece and I in American Eric and you right. I'm tolerated until I'm not I can dine on American soil until I demand a role in remaking the menu. That's killing me like those four progressive congresswoman of Color House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is told representatives Ilhan Omar of Minnesota. IANNA Presley of Massachusetts Rasheed had to leave of Michigan and Alexandra Cossio Cortes of New York to get in line to be a Democrat in the way I'm told by moderates away from Capitol Hill to get in line to be an American a here the moderate message of compliance of assimilation of being happy just dining and I hear the message from the man with the blood red hat defending the moderate and giving me an ultimatum. Can You unpack that for US professor candy sure so I wanted to really talk through and discuss the distinction between someone like trump who more or less says as I write in the piece that if you do not act like a slave then you're essentially not an American Eric and you need to go back to where you come from from the moderate or even to a certain extent the liberal who says you are an American and this is the way you're supposed to act as an American. You're not supposed to speak Spanish. You're not supposed to dress us that way. You're not supposed to look that way. You're supposed to do this in order to to essentially <hes> function in politics and so one is essentially the the one is telling us to essentially be be slaves. Don't ever critique or leave while the other is essentially trying to assimilate us into this singular sense of what an American is can you comment on the fear that these congresswomen now feel because they've been so targeted Democratic officials are afraid for example for the safety of Congress member Omar calling authorities to evaluate her security eh as well as the others. I think these four congressmen obviously are very well versed in American history and even of course the racial terror and violence that still persist and they know that the people who have been most likely to be affected by this violence whether you're talking about the lynching error reading whether you're talking about the era of police violence today are people who resist assist are people who resist <hes> American policies are the people who resist <hes> police officers other people who resist racism and so as to as for the most sort of visible resistors sisters of American racism and sexism imperialism it makes complete sense that they would fear violence happening one day to them. I want to ask you about how the media has been covering trump's racists attacks and also the broader conversation sation about racism. That's emerge. People were particularly enraged at C._N._N.. Had Richard Spencer on the avowed white supremacist to talk about trump's comments in a news conference earlier this week Congressman for Omar said this is the agenda of white nationalist whether it's happening in chat rooms or what's happening on National TV Professor Candy. How can the media the anti-racist instead of complicit? I think the media should use words you have words like racist which is a descriptive the term which describes people who are expressing racist ideas that certain racial groups are better or worse than others and people who are supporting racist policies that that yield racial equity and then you have terms is like anti-racist which are people who express notions of anti-racist ideas of of racial equality and support policies that yield racial equity and so when when when reporters and journalists list see people who are expressing racist ideas they should describe that person as racist when they see adhere people expressing anti-racist ideas they should describe people who are expressing who are being anti-racist. It is critical article for the media to use words to use descriptive terms in the way they use it in other in other ways. I mean they're going to talk about this week and is being very hot as they should. I also wanted to ask you about White House. Counselor Kellyanne Liane Conway defending trump's racist tweets this week when a reporter asked her about it she responded by asking him his ethnicity. If the president was not telling these these four congresswoman to return to their you're supposed countries of origin to which countries was he referring. What's your ethnicity? Why is that relevant to this question? My ancestors are from Ireland Ireland Italy who is not relevant to the question. I'm asking it is about he said originally so that's Kellyanne Conway asking Andrew Feinberg the White House reporter his own ethnicity now even candy the you had an interesting you raise an interesting point a sort of flipping this around to the luxury of knowing where your where your family did come from something. Many people enslaved Americans did did not know as they were forcibly taken from Africa and brought to this country. I think that's what makes it particularly painful for descendants of enslaved Africans because I think many of us of course no that that our ancestors are from Africa but we cannot necessarily pinpoint exactly where when when we think of Africa we think of course mother Africa many of US Imagine Africa as to a certain extent you know a a a a place of origin but at the same time we can't pinpoint where so when you say go back to our country <hes> I it's hard for us to not respond well what country <hes> even if we were to go back to Africa. Where would we go and I think that's what that's what becomes that's what it just sort of reminds us of the slave trade of the slave trade that millions of people were not only killed but separated from their ancestors against their will and now they're saying to us against against their will against our will to go back to our countries? I'm getting the end with Eric Swallow. He just pulled out as a presidential contender <hes> the Congress member from California but he went to the the House floor on Tuesday. Just ahead of the House vote to condemn trump's attacks on the four democratic congresswoman color he listed a number of trump's pass racist comments and as he did so several Republicans interrupted him. We have an opportunity today to condemn or condone. Birtherism is racist saying a Mexican judge can't be fair because of his his heritage is racist saying immigrants from Mexico are rapists is racist saying there were good people on both sides and Charlottesville is racist calling African countries whole all countries is racist and telling four members of this body to go home is racist and then you think it's not racist point of order. Do you think it's not a gentleman was suspended. Spanish gentlemen was stays right. Mr Collins Gentleman Mr Collins because you can say that the gentleman from California is out of order the gentleman from gentleman gentlemen from California Xiao Suspend for what purpose does the gentleman from Georgia born aboard at the gentleman's words are on parliamentary and our Chris. They'd be taken down order very interestingly Republicans interrupted him by citing an obscure house rule a line contained in congressional rules that states references to racial. Racial or other discrimination on the part of the president or not in order the original rule book banning the use of the word racist was written by Thomas Jefferson himself a slave owner but any irony in that was apparently lost on the Republicans pins and the resolution passed. You end your piece. Am I an American by writing Professor Candy. Maybe I should have been asking who controls America instead of am I an American your final thoughts. I wrote that because whoever controls in America whoever controls America is really the one who's going to determine who is an American and I should also add that when we say someone is is being racist. We are not making a personal attack as some of those House Republicans made the case. Were describing them so this isn't about attacking anyone. This is describing what they're saying. This is describing what they're doing this. This is not about what's in somebody's heart what's in somebody's bones. What's in someone's organs? This is about what's in their words and their actions and that's how we determine who is being racist or Anti Racist Ever Mex- Candy Founding Director of the anti-racist Research Research Policy Center at American University his forthcoming book how to be an anti racist and we'll link to his piece in the Atlantic headlined Am I an American Abram candy will be back on democracy now in just a few weeks when his book comes out this is democracy. Now I mean we could then when we come back. A whistle blower joins us who has lessons for us an act. She engaged in more than fifteen years ago. Stay with US been golden glorious me this be not let awesome these would've been heard in one night the outdoor someone and so for me this being manny singing bean voting on the Sinoe by Lila downs here in our democracy now studio to hear her performance and the interview go to democracy now dot org. I'm Amy Goodman as the British government says it's identified the person who leaked cables that forced out the British ambassador to the United States for calling president trump inept we look at the real life political thriller of a British intelligence specialist who risked everything to blow the whistle on U._S.. Dirty strict on U._S. dirty he tricks at the United Nations in the lead up to the Iraq invasion in two thousand three Catherine Gun was working for Britain's government communications headquarters known as G H Q the Intelligence Agency similar to the National Security Agency here when when she opened a top secret N._S._A.. Memorandum the highly confidential memo revealed the United States was collaborating with Britain and collecting sensitive information on United Nations Security Council members in order to pressure them into supporting the Iraq invasion guided by her conscience Catherine Gun defied her government and leak the memo to the press setting off a chain of events that jeopardized her freedom her safety but also opened the door to putting the entire Iraq invasion on trial acclaimed Pentagon papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg described Catherine guns action is the most important courageously I have ever seen. Dan Ellsberg said no one else including myself as ever done what Katherine Gotten to tell secret truths of personal risk before an imminent war in time possibly to avert well now catherine gun stories being told in the new film offical secrets starring here nightly this is the trailer employed to translate it signals intelligence and I reported anything interest my clients. You're a spine and the Americans hoping to the U._N.. Resolution for you for the British government. There's starkly on I worked to participate. I do not gather intelligence and the government can lie to the British people intentions may be manipulated. Take his country to get your copy. You're asking you to breach of official secrets. Some cool that treason <music> someone has to be trade that government and their country might need our help you do not go public would be conceding that no one ever tell the people when the government is lying marriage to be interrogated husband had absolutely nothing to do with this. These are Muslim. I'm sorry they chose loyalty to country over loyalty to government. You'll manage yourself speaks highly as a gun charged with an offence the official secrets. Do you want to rescue. That's the trailer for the new movie offical official secrets based on the true life story of whistleblower Katharine Gun at the time her actions received very little attention from journalists in the United States unless you are watching democracy now in two thousand for democracy now interviewed Catherine Gun. I asked her why she decided to leak the memo. When I saw this email asking G. C. H. help to bug the six swing nations nations to get a vote for for war with Iraq? I was very angry at first and very saddened that had come to this and that despite all the talk from about Tony Blair Erin George Bush about how important it was to get the U._N.. <hes> onboard and to legitimize <hes> any kind of aggression <hes> that they actually going around it <hes> in such low. Oh handed manner so I decided that <hes> the risk to my career was minute compared to the upcoming war in Iraq and the best thing to do for me was to leak this information to to the press so that everybody else could have the information and hopefully could avert this disastrous course of events that have occurred so that was Katherine Gun back in two thousand four. It's fifteen years later for more on this incredible story and the real life thriller that is coming out on August Thirtieth <hes> in <hes> movie theaters around the country. Our guests Catherine Gun is paid. <hes> is played by Keira Knightley. We're joined by Katharine Gun herself. The whistle blower former employees of Britain's Global Surveillance Center G. C. H.. Q. Played by actress Keira Knightley. Yes we're joined also by Martin Bright who <hes> is the journalist who reported guns revelations in the Observer as well as <hes> he was the observer journalist who is working in Washington on this story as well with Martin <hes> at the time <hes> the paper their paper. The Observer was openly supporting the Iraq invasion leading up to it also with us the director of Official Secrets Gavin Hood. We welcome you all to democracy now and it's so relevant to be talking about this today as the British government is talking about cracking down on the leaker of the <hes> of the memos of the U._S.. <hes> the British Ambassador to the U._S. that forced him out. He was forced to resign <hes>. <hes> because it showed that he called president trump and napped and he said you know the singular reason that the trump administration pulled out of the Iran nuclear deal was because it was signed by President Obama and other issues but they not only are saying they are going to crack down hard on the leaker but they're also saying they will crackdown on the press any press reports this in Britain. We thought it was really interesting to talk to you at this time but Katherine. How old were you in two thousand three again? This is before the Iraq war. What January of two thousand three Iraq war was in March? Tell us the moment you're sitting at the equivalent of the N._S._A.. You worked for G. C. H.. Q. In Britain and you were what a Chinese translator Yeah Mandarin Chinese Chinese dude nothing to do with what was going on covering stuff in Iraq or working on that issue. Oh what did you see in your email <hes> while it was a memo from a chap called Frank Khoza <hes> who worked at the N._S._A. and <hes> and yeah it was just a request from the N._S._A.. To <hes> for juice H._Q.. To assist system in bugging the domestic and office communications of the six U._N.. Security Council delegates in bugging in spying on in eavesdropping wiretapping whatever yeah and who were these six countries in putting me on Gavin worked on the screenplay the director Angola Cameroon Bulgaria Chile Pakistan and Mexico and and <hes> these six countries with a non-permanent members on the U._N.. Security Council at the time the idea was they would figure out which way they were going to vote so that they could sway them. The idea was to gather information that they could use was to bribe them or you know threaten them into voting yes for the resolution so yes tremendous amount of pressure down on these countries because if Blair and and Bush had been able to get that U._N.. Resolution for an invasion the weapons of mass destruction issue would have been an honest pretty much irrelevant because there's two legal ways to go to war. It's either go to war based on a U._N.. Resolution we're all together. All you've got to prove genuine threat to your self defense argument so Katherine you re this memo. You're working on translating the head Duran but you see this memo that went out to everyone in your area. And what did you think I was just appalled. I mean my first reaction was was shock and anger <hes> and I thought it was explosive. Information you know I thought it was something that people need to know about because it was basically exposing what was going on behind the scenes and the fact doc that all the flowery words that they use in front of the cameras about you know doing everything diplomatically was a sham. Tony Blair was the Prime Minister of Britain at the time. So what did you do <hes> well I. I didn't do anything immediately but I wasn't home. It was a Friday when I saw the email and I went home and thought about it over the weekend and then on Monday morning I went back into my <hes> workplace and I just <hes> photo well I made a copy of it and I printed out and folded up into my <hes> handbag. Put for the end of the day to take it out of out of the office. You took it out. What did you do with it <hes> and then I mailed it to contact who then passed onto a journalist journalist who then passed onto Monta right which takes us to Mr Martin bright but we're going to go to a break and then we're going to come back to this discussion and guys you do not want to miss this story and what would then take place? We're talking about official secrets. Yes assists new Hollywood movie. That's coming out but it is the real life story of Catherine Gun. How old were you at the time twenty seven years old working for the equivalent for British intelligence and she sees this memo that says that the evidence for going to war would not be based on intelligence of whether there were W._m._d.? But on trying to get something on the U._n.. Security Council members personal or whatever to get them to vote for the invasion to back President George W Bush the system now back in thirty seconds uh-huh rebel girl <music> by Bikini Kill. This is democracy now. I'm Amy Goodman. We're looking at the real life political thriller of a British Intelligence Specials Catherine Gun who were everything to blow the whistle on U._S.. Dirty tricks at the United Nations in the lead up to the Iraq invasion in two thousand three yes in two two thousand and three gun was working for British intelligence. That's G. C.. H. Q. The intelligence agency similar to the N._S._A.. National Security Agency when she leaked memo revealing the United States was collaborating with Britain and collecting sensitive information to hold holdover U._N.. Security Council members to get them to support the Iraq war gun story being told and offical secrets. This is a clip. Your supervisor speaks highly of viewer integrity. She says this breach was a foolish. One was it to me if I leaked anything else. No do you intend to know. I've always been very proud to work itchy the H._Q.. Until now yes until now we employed to do. I can't be specific. General I translated related signals intelligence and I reported anything I thought might be of interest to my clients the Foreign Office Ministry of Defence so you work for the British government. No not really governments change. I I work for the British people. I got it intelligence so that the government can protect the British people. I do not gather intelligence so that the government can lie to the British people with respect Mrs Gun. YOU'RE A spy. Yes you gather information from people's phones and computers and you feed that to your clients eavesdrop on private conversation. Yes now oh you're upset at being asked to do that to members of the Security Council detective I don't object to being asked to connect information that could help prevent a terror attack which I object to is being. I got the intelligence to help fix a vote at the U._N.. And deceive the world into go into six hundred that was a clip from official secrets. The film is coming out August thirtieth in theaters around the country. That's Karen nightly playing Catherine Gun. Who's in our studio now? The whistle blower former British spy worked for British intelligence explaining why she leaked this memo which would get to the press which would get to the observer which brings us to our next two guests <hes> Martin Bright and as well as <hes> Volante Martin talk about how you got this memo you actually at that point had never met Catherine Gun. No it was a very unusual situation. We were handed a simple sheet of a four paper that was how to series of words. It's typed on it and whereas usually with a whistleblower. You'd worked very closely with them. Directly Catherine didn't come to me. She passed the memo to one of her contacts. That contact had connections with the antiwar war movement. Someone within the antiwar movement who is a former journalist took the memo initially to another newspaper and then finally it came to me and on the face of it. It looked like an extraordinary story. It's not every day you get top secret memo and I'll just a top secret in the memo from Q at a top secret memo from the N._S._A.. Sent to Jesus Chew. It looked like a very exciting story but the difficulty was that it was just woods on a piece of paper we had no idea where to come from and that's that's really where the story started etta myself on the observable verification so you. Go to your top editors and say I've got this piece of paper. In fact Catherine had ripped off the top is that right at the top of being ripped off of the memo and also all the header information. I usually have was not there so when I met Yvonne Ridley who is the former journalist who handed me the document it was immensely infuriating and I said what is this I mean what are you doing here. Yeah it's no use to me at all and she turned the piece of paper over and on the back someone had written them the header information so we at least three thousand scratch on the back that yes catherine wasn't me actually we we have to talk about this. Your argument to the editors you think this Israel but you do have to track it down and explain what the header said who you had to verify this with the header for information included the name Frank Oser who was the N._S._A.'s head of regional targets at the time and so we had at least that we had at least the name and it <hes> also the the memo is self contained language that was that was consistent with intelligence service language so we had experts look at that as well so you call Ed and you say can you track down the Sky Y'all so many other things so so initially we were quite nervous. I was quite nervous to a couple of colleagues about even taking it to the editor because you don't want to take a half baked story said so you're particularly the time of intense sir prewar preparation that the drums of war rolling at that that period but we were within the time he should run the fastest to the editor but only with a story that you know is true and so we knew that time was short and the time the observer newsroom was the observer south was split because some people supported the war some people didn't there are a group of journalists within the newsroom who trust each other had worked together gather supporting the war. That's the credit po-point hyper. The editorial line was supporting the war but obviously there were those within the paper he didn't and it was a very collaborative. It was a very collaborative place and I knew that I needed help on new ED was an extremely experienced journalist so I called him and asked him if he could do anything to help. Track down Franco's all the reality or otherwise if the guys at the N._S._A.. Say Your played by Race Font brilliantly in this movie offical secrets but so you have to track them Fred Khoza Frank Frank Costa. What do you do Berlinde busy? These actors are so clever. They need like he's more me than I am likewise other performances extraordinary in this film. I'm yeah I mean these were as Martin suggested divisive divided bitter difficult times of sound familiar to Sasha or the war I mean our obligation is not whether we support or against the war obligation is to the Truth and truth was having a hard time at the observer at that point <hes> this is the backstory this Catherine talking about but there is a back story in the film which plays its part which is might not be quick on this. I had found a source called no goodman namesake of yours who is the head of the Soviet desk at the C._I._A.. Catches Clarence wise man and he had told me of a two meetings a we know that Saddam Hussein has no weapons of mass destruction the C._I._A.. Knows everybody knows it too. There is a shadow intelligence operation going on through the Pentagon all your favorite names on this program Douglas Feith pool of its Richard Poe. You'll recall them. I hope not for their sake but some of them will then basically cooking it the cooking this up. It's not true I filed that story seven times to The Observer I could not get it in the paper. I didn't know why but I was going nuts and refi. receive fans plays the outraged insanity rather world and to my embarrassment for the haven does a good job and and so we're going crazy it later emerged that the newspaper was collaborating very very closely with Tony Blair and his sort of enforcers to keep this kind of thing out of the paper so where I had failed with my whistle blower Mr Goodman Martin with brave and extraordinary Catherine gun succeeded but this needed finding Khoza now. I asked around Mr Goodman I asked others. Can you help me find this because you had to get an extension number. They would just put you through to a man who doesn't exist assist in place that doesn't exist and you try that all the naive he tried to getting its Annapolis speaking and and they said we don't give out you find I came upon an extension of and that's when you get through. I tried to say I will. I put on American accents and goes the through WHO's talking to her. <hes> I can't I can't say just put me through and sure enough Franco's a good moment Mr Khoza Yahoos who's that I'm reading about the G. C. H.. Q. Memo that Shoe Senate Vic at least so you gotta prove Martin Bright you're able to move forward with the story and it is explosive. What was the headline tricks? The dirty tricks the U._N.. And talk about what happened and then I mean you were. The man of the hour you walk in. People are cheering you you've got C._N._N.. You've got <hes> B._B._C.. You've got everyone on the line. They want to interview Martin Bright Because you've got the story of this memo. You didn't know who Catherine Gotten was who had leaked it but you had the story of the memo that was going to get the goods on these U._N.. Security Council members and which would force them to vote for the invasion of Iraq. Everyone's booking you yes and then everyone Fox C._n._N.. And then they all cancel yes yes it was it was an extraordinary. It was every jealous dream to have these front page splash stories that get funded up around the world. It was particularly explosive in Chile which has been used to American television show in the six nations. We were getting calls from the world and it was three minutes. It was one of those huge Hugh Hugh stories and then one by one the American networks pulled out. We still don't know to this day why they did that. Somebody was to do with complications over and unfortunate spellcheck with this is absolutely astounding moment. You print the memo entirety yes and it's but it's the spelling of it is British spelling yes so we had a terrible moment where we'd we'd seen <hes> organizations full of the story up the drudge which reports famous right wing website at the story up <hes> and then they changed the headline from Condie Rice orders operation at the <hes> the cue to British newspaper prints fake fake memo right because F._A.. V. O. U. R. Instead of the details on that so that proves it's a fake memo they think but it's just because the copy editor was in Calcutta rather than conspiracy and it was a terrible moment when I had to look in my drawer but Katherine Gun for Your Home <hes> you see this headline splashed across the front page and your memo that you had leaked was right front and center. You promptly threw up well. No I was in the shop when I saw it so <hes> but I felt like straightaway. It was emblazoned across my forehead. It's me you know look at me. Target Right <hes> <hes> and I was petrified. I was trembling like a leaf and I pretty much ran home and my husband yes show is <hes> still in bed and just you know I just collapsed and talk about what I mean. You risked everything in fact your husband would they attempt to deport him well. It's just serendipitous fortuitous whatever it is but his is <hes> asylum case was coming to an end at the same time that my case began so as soon as I was you know well. We'll get to this. I I suppose I was really ready seconds. I was arrested and the whole process I think it was just a parallel process. That didn't win to sounding H._Q.. Leads investigation they question you but then you turn yourself in and tell the final results of what happened. When you go to court you face years in prison and what happened while they dropped the charges against me? This was how long after it was full <hes> nine to ten months out of the event and the U._S. went to war with Iraq. This is a remarkable story. We're going to do part two. We're going to post online at democracy now dot org to talk about these the courage Katherine Gun had in revealing this information and then.

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Fallout from the US killing of Qasem Soleimani

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Fallout from the US killing of Qasem Soleimani

"The fallout from the targeted. Killing of Ron Geno awesome Sulejmani. Iran is vowing retaliation allegation and president trump warns he'll strike fifty two of Iran's cultural sites an action that many say would be a war crime. We see loss that can't be replaced that is loss of our history loss of the things that make us who we are. Also this member of Iraq's parliament supports US troops in Iraq. But he's at his his wits end. We did not understand Inet states. These days also recused surveys brings a cringe-worthy international twist with laughs to last night's Golden Globes his message for the winners. Don't lecture the rest of us. You know nothing about the real world. Most of you spend less time in school than Greg. Berg I'm Marco Werman. The stories are more today. You're on the world today. They mourned learned in Tehran. Massive crowds of people flooded the streets of the Iranian capital. The funeral of General Qassem Soleimani. He was killed last Friday in a US drone strike in Baghdad in Iraq it was ordered by President trump. The reverberations from souleyman early Monday killing could potentially be enormous for the Middle East. The United States and the world Iran now says it's pulling back from the two thousand fifteen nuclear agreement in in Iraq. The government is taking steps toward demanding that American troops leave the country. We're GONNA start our coverage today with the Wilshire Jafari. Sharon tell us more about what you've been seeing. Mm from Tehran today. Like you said Mark. The crowd in Tehran was huge today. From what I've seen on social media as well as Iranian state media some people have compared impaired the number of people out on the street today to the size of crowd that we saw back in one thousand nine hundred thousand nine when the previous Supreme Leader I Follow Khameini Khomeini passed away and today people were chanting slogans. Were carrying pictures of Awesome Soleil money and a lot of them said they wanted answers from the US so today the general's remains were paraded through Tehran. What do we know about what happens next today? His body was taken to Tehran University. Where the supreme need? They prayed over the coffin. The footage from the funeral shows the supreme neither weeping and what happens next is that solely money's remains will be taken to the the city of on. That's a holy city about two hours drive from Tehran. And tomorrow his coffin will take into his hometown of Cayman and that's where he will be laid to rest. What have you been hearing about why the US carried out this attack? Well we have heard several explanations so far one which was announced pretty quickly on Friday was that the US officials had credible intelligence that awesome so they money was planning attacks against American can diplomats and armed forces in Iraq and other countries in the region. And that this drone attack was about self defense. Are they still offering some kind of information. Information or explanation though the explanation shifted and it turned into will awesome so they money was a bad actor in the region and that over the years he she had ordered or planned many attacks against the US and its partners so so far there are various explanations. And what has Iran been saying about. Its it's response in Iran. One Ward has been repeated in the past few days and that's revenge. Iranian officials have said that Iran plans to respond for sure and maybe even militarily but they haven't given any more details today at the funeral procession Theron simply money's daughter gave a fiery every speech and she said her father's blood was not spilled in vain Ameri Kaba sped on Shahad that's more oh Jeb Guardia beach on Michael. She also said that her father Skilling will bring Iran Iraq closer together and what about Iran's government how they responded they run in government says it will no longer comply with some of the terms of the nuclear deal that it signed with world powers in in two thousand fifteen president trump walked away from the deal last year but to be clear. Iran is still going to let inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency to come in and inspect its nuclear facilities because it continues to be a member of their empty right around still in the nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty. So talk of revenge in Tehran and the US is sending more troops. It sounds like the. US is sending about twenty five hundred Marines to to the Middle East. The Pentagon won't say when or rare these forces are GONNA be deployed at the same time. US says it will pause its operations against as long state in Iraq and in Syria. That's out of caution. For the safety of American personnel NATO has also said it will suspend its mission against Isis Isis. Here's what Jens Stoltenberg NATO's secretary general said today. The safety of our personnel is paramount. A search for the time being suspended our training on the ground who are taking all precautions necessary to protect take our people so both the US a NATO have now paused their operations against Isis. And it's not clear how long that will last. The the Wilshire and Jafari thanks very much for the update problem Markelle next door in Iraq. Tensions are also rising in the aftermath. Sola Monday's assassination. Several rockets landed ended in Baghdad. Last night one in the Green Zone near the US embassy. Those missiles were likely launched by Iraqi militia groups who revered Sulejmani that's according to raise razer. He teaches international relations at Shaheed Beheshti University in Iran and those Iraqi militia is easy says may have bigger plans for retaliation. I think we should expect kind of twofold revenge to come on. That's Irani's talking ability to come in a kind of calculated and not necessarily quick manner but the teams that we are witnessing now in Iraq in terms of for example. There's rocket attacks. Listen these things. This is the second aspect of revenge which is coming from. Goals are group's which considered money as on commander. There's now been a vote in Iraq parliament to expel. US troops. It's nonbinding still. President trump responded with threats for Iraq sanctions and a hefty bill billions means of dollars to repay the US if it has to withdraw. It's troops. So I called. Shams is a member of Iraq's parliament. I reached out to him in the city of Sulaimaniya Iraqi Kurdistan. Can I ask James if he cast a ballot to pull out. US troops no. I didn't participate day boycotted a rejected the whole bill and the whole notion of the take steps toward destroying relationship with United States. So that's something that we do not want that and we want to have a peaceful relationship with birth United States and Iraq. Mrs James I'm in your in the Iraqi parliament. How seriously is the parliament taking trump's threats of sanctions and this giant bill for for? US troops that have served in Iraq that he's talking about publicly threatening Iraq while you are considering Iraq as a partner while you have your soldiers in Iraq fighting Isis alongside Iraqi soldiers and you do not find a diplomatic channel or at least calling the Iraqi prime minister to better understand that bill under steps that the Iraqi government is going to who think just on twitter dispassionate Iraq is getting to be even worse for that relationship with full damage relationship even fed well. US troops are are still in Iraq the prospect though of US troops leaving. Are you worried about your country breaking down further into Shiite Sunni and Kurdish enclaves. Absolutely this is the fear that we are trying to avoid and the this is the consequences of a forceful expulsion of the US forces if it's peaceful it's based off that Marshall Andrew Standing based on request and then we negotiate their represents again through diplomatic channels and by talking to our leaders to do the White House. This is something else but this would the way that is being handled and it looks like the militias at continued to threatening the US embassy and other embassies at the Green Zone that we have most of their for nemeses. There have been bonded every night like last night. We had rockets targeted at the US embassy. This is going to really make Iraq. A war zone and other Syria will really gave rise to radical groups to exploit exploited so with presidents Bush and Obama there was a kind of consistency to their policies. Even if some say those policies were misguided does donald trump confused the Iraqi parliament. Exactly we do not understand Inet states these days. It's very hard to understand United States. We hear something from their diplomats. How much they deal with Iraqi institutions with respect even some of these militia leaders? They had some meetings with the US diplomats but it was expecting Iraq and and ignoring Iraq by the president and Era Iraqi leaders. Not having them in the White House so far not invited to the White House and just Seeing Iraq through the lenses of their anonymity with Iran is really something that we we do not see that the US seem to value of partnership with Iraq. They owned he co about Iraq when there is a crisis with Iran while we have over on interest and we have happened to the West and the north which occurs under Sunnis. They want to have a peaceful relationship with the US and also the moderate southern employees the sheer empties. They also want peaceful relationship with the United States but without accusing Iraq against Iran. This is something we cannot accept and Iraq cannot really taught rate that meanwhile I'm wondering what all of this will mean for the grass us route protesters in Baghdad who've been demonstrating since October. They were very upset as you know with corruption in Iraq. What are their feelings about Iranian influence in Iraq they will they are already starting campaign saying the parliament does not represent me which means that decision yesterday by forceful expulsion of the? US forces does is not representative. Will they know that you an. US is withdrawing when US Iraqi guy scutts out will means more delicious and that means it's all of the gains they had. The reforms is going to be over and there will be no space for peaceful assembly. That's really very sad. And I am in communication with them on daily basis. They are arrogant to take action to do something to save the relationship. Would they night stage for the sake of Iraq but that's really very helpless because just a very few. MP's indirect bottom. They have the courage to publicly. Say That publicly say that we need to save the relationship with the United States but we also need need to start doing a successful negotiation with the United States how to avoid confronting Iran on the Iraqi cycle chums a member of Iraq's parliament. But he's been speaking with us from Sulaymaniyah in Iraqi Kurdistan. Thank you very much thank you. It's red carpet season last night. The Golden Globes leading off a parade rate of upcoming entertainment awards the Globes sponsored by the Hollywood Foreign Press Association. So maybe it's not too surprising that the festivities nodded to the world beyond Beverly Hills right out of the gate in fact with hose. Ricky's your vase pointing a finger in his opening monologue at one big company funneling money into the movie business apple rode into the eighteen game with a morning. Show a superb drama. Yeah a superb drama about the importance of dignity and doing the right thing made by a company that runs sweatshops in China. But just in case anyone in the crowd was laughing too hard surveys put them in their place to companies. You you work for. I mean unbelievable Apple Amazon Disney if isis style streaming service. You'd call your agent. Wouldn't you so if you do win an award tonight tonight. Please don't use the platform to make a political speech right. You're in no position to lecture the public about anything you know nothing about the real world most of you. It spent less time in school than Greta. Thornburgh the rest well it had to be believed by NBC. One big winner the night with South Korean filmmaker Bong Jun Ho. He directed the disturbing family drama parasite which won. Best Foreign Language. Film Chum Up Self titled John Gilbert with a translator by side said audiences miss out on amazing films homes because of those words at the bottom of the screen. Once you overcome the one inch tall barrier of subtitles you will be introduced to so many more amazing films sounds really expand. Your world read subtitles. The devastating bushfires in Australia are exacting a heavy human toll. At least twenty four people have died since September wild animals have fared much much worse. Some five five hundred million have been injured or killed in the fires. That estimate comes from Chris. Dickman professor of Ecology at the University of Sydney when we reached him today he had this this update. The four hundred eighty million estimate was made a couple of weeks ago and the fires of now burned over a large area of the country that means over hundred million mammals reptiles have been affected by the fires truly a wide It's probably over. A Billion Hidden Dickman has forty years of experience working across Australia. He told the world's Patrick win. Conditions at animals. There are now facing. This really is his unprecedented. I think there's nothing quite compared with the with the devastation. That's that's going on such a large area so quickly it. It's monstrous in terms of job and numbers of individual animals. Affected gives us a better idea not to be morbid but how these creatures are dying are we talking about about actually being burned to death smoke inhalation or starvation. What are the different scenarios here? Despite flames is the is the most obvious and some of the images of Koalas all is bring home. What that's like most vividly at the fire front five thousand talked about the shrieks and Koalas just screams of pain as they as they die? It's his horrendous brothers. Have size in tree hollows Hep stars minute ago. Too deeply underground. Smoking elation will be a real problem for the others it's probably a slow demise species that gal underground and then reemerge after the fires have gone through this really nothing except dash on the surface. So it's very difficult to find resources. Australia is known for. It's just amazing. Wildlife Diversity so are we looking at the extinction certain creatures being hastened by this is I think we are. We know that Australian biodiversity has been going down over the last several decades AK DHS. And it's probably fairly well known that Australia's got the world's highest rate of extinction for mammals. and Vince like this that may well hasten the extinction in process for a range of other species so it's it's a very sad time. What creatures are you really feeling for right now? This is something called the greater glider. It's it's the world's largest gliding mammal. It looks a little bit like camping gizmo from the one of movies some years ago. It's restricted victims the eucalypt forests. It's got a diet. That's even more restrictive than the Koala They'll be cooked in the in these. Fires the yellow bellied gliders will. It's enough stunningly beautiful marsupial. Very well known there again restricted to the U. Clip Florists and they're going to be very susceptible to these to these fires. How have of human beings helped create the conditions for this crisis? What we're seeing is? The effects of climate change sometimes said to that Australia's the collide the canary in the online with the effects of climate. Change being seen here most severely and earliest as well so a would probably looking at climate change my look for many of the parts of the world stages in Australia at the moment professor Dickman. Your demeanor demeanor. Seems very calm but do think it's time for people to freak out and if so what should they be doing in response to this. I think there's a feeling among environmental scientists wanted an ecologist in Australia. We've been frozen out of the the bite certainly out of policy making and think it's now time to bring the scientists back into the tent to look at what is likely to be happening over the next few decades and to think how this week and maintain both the M mm community in in good health and is not bottom. -versities can be retained to this evolving situation. That's Chris Dickman ecologist at the University of Sydney in Australia Australia. He was speaking with the world's Patrick win. Now back to our main story today Iran and the targeted killing of Iranian General Hossam Soleimani. President trump has vowed vowed to target Iranian cultural sites that is if Iran retaliates trump tweeted that the US would hit fifty two sites one for each hostage. Taken in nineteen seventy seventy nine in Tehran and the president said the strikes would be very fast and very hard. There was an instant backlash worldwide because bombing cultural sites could constitute sued award crime. ONA hathaway's professor of international law. Yale would striking cultural sites in fact the illegal yes. It's very clearly illegal under a number number of international laws. The Nineteen O. Seven Hague Convention prohibits hitting cultural sites as does and I think Fifty Four Hague Convention attention on Cultural Property which the US has also ratified and in. Your opinion was an important to protect cultural sites. Well it's the heritage of all mankind and these are not just the possession of the countries that they happen to be in but they're important to all of us these important cultural sites and matter in terms of our defining finding our own humanity so president trump over the weekend said Iran is quote allowed to kill our people and we're not allowed to touch their cultural sites. I mean he was essentially essentially questioning the very premise of this protection. I'm wondering though. Is there a point to be made That humans are more precious than buildings. There's no doubt that humans are more a precious than buildings but this is not a case of are making a choice between the two. What he's suggesting is that if they break the rules and we can break the rules as well but that's not how international humanitarian law works? These rules are in place to ensure the safety of civilians and of our cultural heritage heritage and the mere fact that Iran may have acted in violation of international. Law doesn't mean that we can or should go bombing a set of important important cultural sites in Iran if the US were to follow through on this threat what would be the ramifications. Could trump be tried the Hague or somewhere else. It does appear that if he were to carry this out not only he. But those who participate in the operation would almost certainly be guilty guilty of a war crime under US law In fact it would be possible to prosecute him and anyone who participates in US US court there could potentially be international or crimes prosecution as well although where that would take place a little more difficult because the US is not party to the International Criminal Court. Would that in your view realistically ever happened. I think that it's not unbelievable to imagine that there could be prosecutions of those in the. US Government Mint if they knowingly participate in intentionally participate in intentional violations of The Hague convention whether that prosecution would happen president at hard to say but there's no reason that he should be above the law. If trump ordered the strike. Could the military refuse to carry out the order Knowing that maybe they'd be guilty of war crimes that they follow through puts them in a terrible position. There are two things to be said here on the one hand if someone is prosecuted for war our crime. It's not a defense to say I was ordered to do it on the other hand to refuse an order also put someone in a position of potentially being court court-martialed and so puts individual members of the military and a really terrible position so I hope we don't get there but if we do many are are sending the message to members the US military in those who would play a role in carrying out this attack that if they do so they are potentially subject to war crimes prosecution and that Dave should refuse the order even though that might bring with it some consequences ONA hathaway professor of international law at Yale University. Thanks very much thank thank you so much. It's a tense time for undocumented immigrants in the US even more tense for parents. There's often no way for them to appoint a guardian for their children. If they're detained other states children have been taken inch custody of the stage and then they will be placed in foster care and foster homes so Rhode Island came up with a solution that still head. You're on the world I'm Marco Werman this is the world where a CO production of the BBC World Service W. Gbh Boston NPR rx. The events in Iraq and Iran have overshadowed another major military incident this weekend. Extremists attacked a US military installation on the Kenya. Somalia Malia border and killed three Americans. The world's Lima Conde is following the incident so extremist forces attacking US military base. It sounds a lot like what happened in Iraq last week but this is Kenya. What's going on so Iran does not have anything to do with this attack? The attack was by L. Shebab which is an extremist group in Somalia only a- and the group itself as well as the US military has acknowledged that al-shabaab was behind this attack. al-shabaab has a long history of attacking targets in the area area where the Kenya Defence Force based is located Even last January. They attacked an hotel and I ruby killing more than twenty people so they have a long history of waging attacks in Kenya and Somalia. I spoke with Matt bearden. Who is with the think tank Sahan that focuses on the Horn of Africa? He says Iran is not behind in dead. I think it's highly unlikely. There was any link between the killing of Caribbean Major General and the Shibata attack in Kenya primarily early because an attack of the kind that al-shabaab carried out on Mandalay Bay would have required significant planning preparation. Even just moving the forces into position would have predated the American air strike. So I really don't think these two issues can be linked late today the US Department of Defense released a statement agreeing that Iran is probably not involved in this attack however they did caution that Iran has been trying to increase its influence in the Horn of Africa region. Do we know why al-shabaab attack this base Marco that US military installation here is called camp. Simba it's partnered with a Kenyan military base here in Monterey Bay and the US has had this military presence there since about two thousand four according to AFRICOM which is the US's African command force for US military Terry in the region. US forces provide training and counter-terrorism to support Kenyan troops from this base the US also has an air force squadron based there. This makes Camp Simba a a prime target for Al Shabaab and we knew that this type of surprise attack on established military installations like forward operating basis was a routine tactic of theirs. So I think it's just a choice of Manda Bay being a joint Kenya. US Installation Zhang presumably a hard target. This is the surprise the. US has dramatically increased the number of drone attacks on Shebab militants in Somalia while the drone the strikes have diminished the group's ability to hold wide areas of land and certain parts of Somalia. It clearly hasn't stopped Al Shabaab from waging these deadly attacks both in and outside of Somalia So Halima House a US countering this well. That's what's interesting margot the. US currently has more than six thousand personnel serving on the entire continent but the US. I has signalled in the past two years that it will reduce US troops on the ground despite growing terrorism and both western Africa and the Sahara region even if the US does decrease the number of troops there is actually no sign that the other infrastructure is winding down in two thousand nineteen the US opened a new air force base in Nizhny air. I spoke with Adam more. WHO's a professor presser at Ucla who researches military contracting in Africa? Yeah so what you kind of tend to see is is the military having two different types of bases outside of Kampelman yeah They have grown facilities and then they have these facilities. That are more for special operations forces. both counterterrorism training with local partner And also then for operations the immediate response to the weekend strike that killed three Americans africom which is the US African Command. The region has sent a response force to Mandalay Bay to help. Secure that Airfield Halima Conde. Thanks very much thank you. Let's return to our top story today. The aftermath of the US US assassination of Iranian general. Hocine Silla money the mood between the. US and Iran has not been this tense in more than thirty years and we're seeing some ripple effects on our own boarders dozens of Iranian Americans have been questioned at ports of entry across the US. Iranian American. John Ghazvin was among them. He directs the Middle EA- center enter at the University of Pennsylvania. Thanks for being with US John So i WanNa talk with you about us. Iran relations. Because that's kind of your specialty at U. Penn but you had this run in at JFK airport yesterday yesterday. New York. You tweeted got taken to the special side room and got asked among other things how I feel about the situation with Iran. Can you describe what happened sure. I was coming back from Cairo and I was just asked to go to secondary questioning which was the first time that's happened actually mostly routine questions. It was very friendly very courteous. It was fairly quick Dustin a few minutes while I was asked How I feel about the situation which was a surprising question? I simply told him that. I didn't think that question was very relevant. Felt like a bit of political question. I didn't think it was a big deal so I just sent it. What I thought was very lighthearted tweet off woods about that and Twenty four hours later. I'm up to sort of thirteen thousand father. It's a bizarre. Yeah I mean. I hadn't anticipated that kind of response. To be honest. I feel it at the end of the day. I'm a US citizen. I don't feel like I'm under any kind of particular threat but I know that there are plenty of people out there who are having much more difficult goal situations. I mean your experience was pretty different from some of the other Iranian running Americans who were detained up to ten hours in southern border crossings. You responded to one concern sern person on twitter that again. There's nothing aggressive about the agents questioning so while I appreciate the concern really. I'm fine. No reason why I wouldn't be you wrote and yet I see the kinds of some people who were trying to cross from candidate into Washington state. One man voted saying that the experience conjured up images of Japanese interment camps. And he said it doesn't seem that farfetched fetched. How concerned are you by what these detentions across the country this weekend could lead to? Yes having heard about some of that I it is a little bit concerning. Yeah if I'm not mistaken. Some of those people are citizens as well so these things do help away of sometimes getting worse and of course. That's in the back of every person's mind who's Iranian Romanian or Iranian origin. In the United States. For sure is it in the back of your mind yes I think this is the thing that I think people forget. This isn't new for us. Hi this is always in the back of our heads for a number of years. Now it's been difficult to be around him in the United States or even running American during the hostage crisis in seventy nine eighty one new things were very very difficult for Iran. In the United States. I could easily see that happening again. I hope that doesn't try to remain optimistic. Well John Let me shift gears. Here's here because you. You are an expert on the history of you as Ron Relations At the Middle East Center there at the University of Pennsylvania so I can put the events of the last week into context force. What we've seen the last four or five days as a figure into the last forty years of fraught relations between the US and Iran? Yes I mean. Obviously since the revolution in nineteen seventy nine on the ensuing assuming hostage crisis Relations with Iran never been friendly. I mean broken off formerly in April one thousand nine hundred and never been restored. There's been a lengthy and I think a lot of people like to refer to the shadow war for forty years now but there have been moments. The United States actually made strenuous efforts to try to improve ties with Iran. Ronald Reagan came on the air in nineteen eighty-six and televised is the dress the nation and one of the things he said it's always stuck with me. As between Iranian and American basic national interests than need be no permanent conflict. We seek no territory territory or a special position in Iran. The Iranian revolution is a fact of history but between American and Iranian basic national interest. There need be no permanent conflict. We haven't heard a lot of American presidents since then Talking in those terms of terms what do you think. Many American listeners are just missing as they think about the current state of the relationship between the US and Iran to me one of the things that always stands out. Is I think people really miss understand about Iran is that the Islamic Islamic republic has a very very long history of calculated measured on strategic decision. Making though they are certainly ideological heavily so they are Not Wild eyed crazy radicals of the type. Who Don't make decisions in their own interests? They have a very very strong Survival you don't get to stay in power forty years yes with the world's great superpowers against you. If you're just kind of crazy hawk headed ayatollah. The deeply rational actors even though in a lot of times that Russian decision making it made an attempt to advance a certain ideological agenda John. Ghazvin Ian Directs the Center at the University of Pennsylvania. John Glad to hear your brief. The detention at the airport was not terribly eventful. And thanks for the interview. Thank you very much. The Department of Homeland Security has been busy following other directors including keeping tabs undocumented immigrants for those living in the US without proper documents the threat of deportation has always been real but has become even more intense under the trump administration restauration for parents. There's an additional anxiety fears about what could happen to their children if mom or dad or both are detained by immigration and customs enforcement as as the world's Rupa Shenoy reports people across the nation are scrambling for answers. Anything they look like any other family apply apply Maria showing me photos. There's her son at the beach that has versus she. Her husband and their two kids on vacation in Hampshire Thia then we will need to riding bikes pass out and of course baby pictures. They'RE GONNA be die you aw. When president trump took office Marie his daughter was six and her son was seven? People began to talk about trump's immigration policies. Maria heard about them on the news. The local prison started holding detainees for Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ice during the area began to avoid that whole side side of town. We're not using her last name because she and her husband are undocumented. Maria came to the US twenty years ago from El Salvador her husband's from Guatemala Allah. They worried about what would happen to their children. If they were caught by ice more you know the the suspect you can see who does not. Maria says she felt desperate even thinking about the possibility of being separated from her children. And not knowing what would happen to them. Usually when appearance detained or deported by ice their kids go into state custody state it welfare officials may place them with other family members or the kids may go into the foster care system then then we'll give him sputter games economical Maria. You wanted to make sure her children would be with someone they knew and trusted. So how does a parent do that. Turns out a lot of people have been asking that question question. It'd be honest. We did not have an answer at Lisa Ortiz. The appleseed network a nonprofit group that works on Social Justice issues they started looking into this in two thousand seventeen. We've thought at the time that it would be easy. We thought well you know what we'll do is we'll just gathered the forms. There must be forms right. We'll pull them together. We'll put them in a folder. We'll make them all and and we quickly figured out within a couple months was pretty much impossible. That's because chip. Laws can vary from state to state Ortiz says during the AIDS crisis crisis of the nineteen eighties and nineties. Some states set policies allowing parents to appoint a guardian for their child but only in the event of their death. A lot of things only only allow you to do if you're terminally ill and haven't diagnosis that you're going to die within a certain amount of time Ortiz. Says Moose States don't have laws in place that allow parents to appoint guardians in the event of their detention or deportation. She says there's no way to know the impact that's had how many children have ended ended up in the foster care system. We have been able to figure it out because a lot of places don't track it. Activists Lawyers and emigrants across the country have been trying to find solutions in Washington D. D. C.. They successfully pushed for emergency legislation to allow immigrant parents to appoint guardians for their children Maryland. New York pass bills to do the same came in Rhode Island. We knew basically what the scenario was. And we knew we had to invent it because it didn't easily fit within any of the existing guardianship substructures in Rhode Island Law. So we invented it attorney. Jennifer would of the Center for Justice in Providence. Got Together with other lawyers to create a six page packet kit of legal documents. That's been translated into Spanish and other languages parents can fill it out. Sign it and give it to the person they've appointed Guardian so they can claim the tile wood says. The parents can have the forms notarized but it isn't required. We're a very small state so we have those relationships so I just picked up the phone. That's that's a beautiful thing and that's not always able to occur elsewhere in larger states or even large metro areas. Would what speaks at gatherings like this one in the providence suburb but central falls. It's a tiny city. That's gone from majority White Majority Latino in one generation the learning community charter school has become an unofficial resource and community center. Unfortunately known as a person in other states it's children have been taken into custody stage and then they will be placed in foster care and foster volunteer translates in Spanish parents balanced babies on their laps and take notes would tell them. If they complete the guardianship forms state welfare officials will honor them. They don't want to pay for your kids. That's a good thing as long as someone has the documents they're going to leave. The school keeps copies of all. Its students documents. co-director Sarah Friedman says Moster from immigrant. Regret families kind of standoffish like well. Good luck with that horrible situation. You're going through. You wouldn't be nearly fifty attorneys here to help. Parents appoint went guardians. Friedman says some parents stay away from these sessions out of fear. It'll somehow tip off. Is the school's Administrative Manager Maria duquet Says they've done drills to prepare in case they do see ice officers around but the drills make her uneasy doesn't feel good doing that because it could be me wasn't documented for many years so I had to walk the same path that they are working right now and he's he's not easy easy Maria. The mother at the the beginning of the story lives here in Central Falls Rhode Island and her two children are students at learning community school. She came to one of the information sessions and she's appointed. Did her brother as her kids guardian if she and her husband or detained she knows they can be a handful though so she's also pointed a backup guardian a neighbor whose family when Maria told her son and daughter about her preparations. They weren't happy you are music caring. They begged her to never go. Go Away Maria says she tried to tell them that. Sometimes things happen that you can't control. They still don't understand but Maria says she feels better amid everything happening. She feels lucky to be in a place where she has helped to control. At least one thing the most important thing the safety of her children for the world. I'm Rupa she knew. In Central Falls Rhode Island. There's still lots going on outside of Washington in the Middle East. For example there was dramatic news out out of Venezuela this weekend for the past year president. Nicolas Maduro has been in a political standoff with one Guido the speaker of parliament there Guido. Also last last year declared himself the legitimate president of Venezuela but yesterday the Armed Forces surrounded the National Assembly building the parliament and blocked by dough from entering. It was a stunning scene. That is the actual moment when Guido attempted to scale a fence around the National Assembly yesterday a while wearing a well-cut blue suit they got to the top of the tall pointed iron gate but then security men pulled him down as a result a medusa supporter order was elected speaker inside parliament while Guido was later reelected by members of parliament outside really dramatic. Yefimov Zubiaga is head of the Venezuela Zoa Working Group at the American Society Council of the Americas. That's a nonprofit aimed at a better understanding of Latin America. I asked him if one Guido was still speaker of the Venezuelan wayland National Assembly or not. I believe so Michael. I think that he's position was so relevant because he was deemed as the only legitimate democratically chronically elected represent that leader of the institution which was a National Assembly and yesterday we have seen a lot of statements from the international community. Munity saying that. What occur yesterday was you know a sham election that it was impossible for the majority members of the opposition to get into parliament so so far I think Russia has been the only international actor that has accepted the results? I haven't seen what China has said. But you know the European Union. The United States of course also notably other countries in the region like Argentina and Mexico have denounced the procedures that happened yesterday. asked for a free and fair election in parliament. Where do you think the real power lies right? Now because Venezuela has two men claiming to be President Nicholas Nicholas Maduro and Juan Guido and also two men claiming to be speaker of the assembly and one of those is also one Guido. So where's the power. Well I mean and there's two two aspects of power one of course is the de facto power so that lies of Audie in the executive branch in the military. I mean we saw the military yesterday physically. Basically impeding the members of parliament from growing inside the parliament. So that's our right there. However there's the other side of power which is legitimacy international legitimacy and also seems to be increasing on Widodo size? So I know it's it's kind of like a mixed answer. But I think that way Dole has not been Terminally defeated and he may be weakening the fact that he does not have the actual building to preside over but I think that he's you know his recognition as the head of ourselves simply stays intact any fact he gained so more support than he had. There are a couple of surprising things for those of US outside Venezuela for one one. Guido don't has not yet been arrested. Now surprising is that to you. I think that's surprising. I mean I think he is still by far the most popular politician in Venezuela I think that he represents a big hope think he also represents as I said before the. He's the person that is recognized by the broader international community. So I think that's what stops the regime from going after him in a way that could further escalated this crisis and also I think that they are concerned the regime. They're concerned about what what could be the reaction of part of the military if way door Where to be arrested? The other surprising thing again is how Maduro has survived five for a year with the opposition with a respected leader by clamoring for him to leave. Yeah I mean I mean. They've used you know some of the most repressive impressive forms that we are seeing the world today. For example they are members of parliament who are disappear in hands of the state. They are members of parliament that have seen in jail torture. We've out a a trial there. Many many members of parliament who are in exile on. That's not to say about the other offenses. So I think I I mean we've seen a a very full-on open repression. Like the one we saw yesterday where there's actually military people stopping the head of Congress from entering the building. I think that you know. That's a new low for government that was already seen as a dictatorship so there's that and then the other parties of course you know the role of the international international backers that the regime has predominantly Russia and of course Cuba and to a lesser degree China. So it seems to me that Russia's not backing down their support for Originally when dad has been instrumental for him to stay in power Zubiaga head of the Venezuela working group at the American Society Council. All of the Americas thank you. Thank you mark appreciate it. That could be the sound of a courtroom door shutting over the latest case of music plagiarism. Every we so often these fights happen George Harrison and it's tuned my sweet Lord which was found to a subconsciously plagiarized from the Edwin Hawkins singers. And that's what emerged court or or Katy Perry's hit darkhorse which jury found to be a rip off of a Christian rap tune. Perry had to pay nearly three million dollars. In damages. Friday miley Cyrus and and Jamaican dancehall star floor. Gone were in court over this in that line right there in my lease we can't stop. We run things things. Don't run we. Okay here's floor guns track. We we run things. That line is composed of almost exactly the same words floor gone sayings things. No runway Miley. Highly Cyrus sings things. Don't runway otherwise the American and Jamaican songs are different it happens. There are all kinds of songs in the musical universe at share snippets of identical identify lyrics and it never becomes a legal problem. Express yourself one by Madonna and other different song by Charles Wright and the Watts one hundred third street rhythm band same same titles even coming back to the same words express yourself never went to court. The in the miley Cyrus Floor Gun case Jamaican artist. Whose real name is Michael may felt slighted and sued Cyrus Andrew Company Sony for three hundred hundred million dollars for copyright infringement? The parties aren't commenting but I'm guessing. A cultural line got cross. When Cyrus used the Pronoun we? Instead of us that's a common construction in Jamaican patois aware us or our get substituted by we as in come over to we house anyway. On Friday the lawsuit ended with an undisclosed payout. There is one other difference between Majlis and flag on songs slogans. We run things. Went to number one in Jamaica. We can't stop made it the number two in the states and you have to think it could have gone on to number one but was stopped by. Wait for it. Robin fix blurred lines later to show up in court for too closely resembling Marvin gays got to give it up. Thank you the world comes from the non and Bill Harris Studio at WBZ in Boston. Listen I'm Marco Werman and because we don't stop we'll be right back here tomorrow tell me things committing winter. We Will Win Beckel. The world is a CO production of W. G. B. H. Boston the BBC World Service and Pierre Ex

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Ep. 520: Fat Tit Friday

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Ep. 520: Fat Tit Friday

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It's cock rock Friday why it's been a long time since the fat tip Friday on a Friday fat hit Friday. Yeah why dig. This is why this is why I always tell people i. I had dinner with very sophisticated people last night and they were like your podcast. Go for you not for you. Not View amazing artists otherwise this asset management guy family friends mazing about my mom calls me up. She goes Can you send me a picture of the Baby Boston Chubby. I post it. She Bring Up Gentlemen Scrim. My mom just responded thick side call. Jeez moms so cute dog kiss him right now. uh-huh ridiculous Gillian thick just thick. But how about my mom mom. She was oh nothing. She's a cock rock Thursday eh. Really odd bless you. You just can't I bless you can't do that. Can you please not do that. Oh my God it's ridiculous. It gives them over the holidays. Do when we saw each other. We talk a lot on the Ohio but it's been a while. Holidays were interesting. Holidays are always fun. Spend a lot of time with my kids. It's all good. Would I was in Utah with my parents late all good yup. Yup didn't do any skiing. Don't ski but the kids do not for me. Skiing are boy. Todd I broke his femur skiing. He broke his Tibia. Not they'll front Well that's not good at all. He's in some shit. Yeah a guy was killed on the slopes the twenty year old terrible come down hit. A tree happens every Bob Sunny every fucking somebody does your skin but overall slow crowded but but what else nothing nothing. I was so sick you were sick. I didn't have the flu live the cold. I'd like pneumonia hit me. That's not like you to talk about a lot of pain. You'll never tell anybody because what's to be done when when's last time I had told her can do. A show was the last time I didn't do a show never and I was like I'm telling you I can't come in. I can't that's right. You could he couldn't do the. That's why we're like we're gonNA take a short break anyways but we never take this long break right. I physically couldn't do the podcast. How might like I couldn't my chest at so much inflammation in my throat was has gone it was it was insane When I was in Boston had a great show Wilbur that I'm with my boy mullick feature amasi MRI fucking hilarious There's this last weekend this is this is This Friday this past New Year's eve new years confusing so so my my boy Brian Cooley. WHO has a traditional school in In Nashville he's six six and he was arranger before for this. He's a big guy who's a competitive e competes but he's just a giant Viking man. I'm with I'm with. I'm with Brian Cooley. He flew up the yeah. He thought there with his wife. acknowle Oscar good friends real whiskey guy. Okay we all fucking whiskey. I next time you judge of that so I got Brian there. I got molly who came out of WHO. There's been boxing. Since he was seven came out floyd mayweather. It's camp does allow you know. And then I got lex Friedman who does Rogan. He's the guy that does the deals with robotics and the Tesla's Elon Elon Musk. He's the MIT judo. Nj to Okay and then my boy Rob Bradley. WHO's a black belt in Jujitsu as well? So I'm I'm Roland Colin Kinda deep with some big fellows. Rob's beg six meet. Let me just like the nerdy version of a minority on the nerdy version correct. Yeah now my oh boy. Most cut his beautiful Ethiopian girl. Okay yeah chocolate drew my other boy. Justin Scott his era trian girl. Eritrea's the country that's above Ethiopia. They're beautiful women in that part of she's not there both black. Thank you thank you. Because as his molecule just so so now now we're dancing immune molecules. We're having a dance off right at the bar at this club near the. W what being silly wish you weren't dancing. Look I'm the old guy having a dance of a mall joking around but we're having a fucking silly tom just to the show. I'm just having a good time and idiot. Now this is going to you. Fighting gets better as outfight. You should now. I'm noticing that this guy these these men who Iraq you know how I can pick out nationalities right away. uh-huh yeah I've ever seen but there are. There are four African gentleman and I happen to clock go. Those guys are clearly from Ethiopia and the student you Dan yeah well. They're now. Remember my boys with an Ethiopian Gal. Who one of them's drunk? And he starts walking up to the girls that were with and they're getting kind of the one guy getting Kinda grabby. Now hold on yes. I'm paint this now. You don't me now. I know you behold on these Ethiopian mental. I think give your opinions. Yeah because I come from up Ethiopian small and skinny. That's right Brennan okay. That's right Brennan. It's five seven seven to a man. Now they're beautiful people remember of course Gorgeous Mall. They're typically not giant. They're not shying no they tend to be slight there there. You go there small knocking out. Let's I'm treading lightly here. They also the same or maybe even get confused with Somalia Malia pirates where I'm the captain now okay so that would be Somalia which is next to Ethiopia very modern culture okay. Muslims Coptic Christian. I'm saying do they look similar Yes no east African. It's very very diverse. Racial Russian in like not so much. He's got really different different looking for the side try. I'm just glad but but if you look at that smaller a very Ethiopia's Mary fine features and small there you go. That's a classic example. Usually very could looking people known for their look. Okay now these guys. Because they've been Americanized well little heavy and not so good looking and kind of Shitty shitty and general now. Here's while now. I'm rolling with skinny fat build Ethiopian. Yeah and I'm wrong. I'm wrong with some American black guys who aren't hearing peop- no and athletic asses. Yeah we're talking about the other side of Africa by the way Probably ancestrally West African which is different thing and now I got giant Viking White Guy I got I got Russian guy. He's got big Irish guy. My Buddy these are American okay you understand although XS Russian so so now oh you know pry bryce insecure and get super hot headed creation the smallest laws and the less skilled correct right. I'm glad you said it. Who'd WHO's the first guy to fight? Bellevue right. The Chihuahua Most Wawa most insecure so old scalawags to our ricky. By the way my name is Rick so so thank you very much so I man right everywhere I go thanks. I'm getting screened at whole foods. For God's sake in fucking Utah get to park. I'm like walking says I'm like Oh Jesus Christ Senate has and I'm walking. I hear about the counter. That's my name so so reads the show our starts to bark so I I like words. I like nobody knows how to use word. So this guy is now all of a sudden Stops and this guy looks right at my mom and goes. Hey that's our system and that's our sister. You shouldn't be with our sister. Oh and I go. What and he goes man? Shut up you know what the fuck is going on. I go I go I go fuck you talk now now. And now they're they're posturing now molly molly literally you could be. It was a monster. He doesn't give a fuck he's like he's literally. He's already diffused three five he could give a fuck. He's so such a goofball he's not even noticing the areas Mary's Hilarious I look at them lifting weights. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA fuck him for that. He so by the way one of us a silly gut's all lives only to be a silly girl. Okay so now he's not even he's not giving them anything and I'm like what the fuck. That's what the fuck you doing Eric but he. He doesn't shit these Brian Brian. This is how Brian Kel it diffuses down. We went on the captain. Now I didn't say share Ryan I would have said coolly goes like this he goes. Hey Bro you know jaws and what jaws the movie you know. Jaw accents accidents. But they spoke very guy goes. Yeah and he goes. You're the girl enjoy swimming in the water they got no idea does sharpen a poem under the Shark. I'm gonNA pull you under. It was the greatest the fucking thing and he's so pig and and he just like sitting there looking. I'll put on the shock. The you're the girl in Ause Swin guy giving the thumbs up and just buck luck and took a look like oh this is a bad. That was so fucking great on the show was so great. It'll be great. He he's just he's so big intimidating military guys just like Oh God. I love that you know what scares me is when people like that. What happens and they don't read the situation and they keep going it's like Oh are you shitting? Because they're drunk or they actually think just never had anybody do that out to you the right no not really I mean there are. I don't hang out well that you know what I did. I came out on the bike. Even you say especially in Boston Austin did New Year's what are you doing. How you doing karate doing what am I doing my I said it now? Listen we came on the street. It's one in the morning. It's now what I urge in Bonn and I said Oh my God I'll tell you get no tell now. Nothing good happens right now. Nothing happens on the street and nothing I heard it. Everybody like Like a fucking Collie in a thing happens and then I came back out those four guys with a Oh and hey hey you went on the cat surrounding and then got his fat belly. Because they're not eating. Yeah guys out for a swim you guys out for a swim. How's the water? Is it choppy. I slew them. I slew all all of the US. And I'm the Odom kneeled squeeze squeal. Suck you boys. I got around the square. No no I'm GONNA underwater squeezed choke them. I tend to suck on the squeeze. Calm you guys down right quick with my mouth. The old squid former circle house. Nothing dude would your crowd a little rowdy on years eve you you do you do three to one I did. They were so great and they've some of them were older. It was really wild. I definitely had a meet and greet didn't know they one hundred people way. Now's Aw man assholes but it was not we did it. We did do a new idea to stay local. You know so I did two shows there. Yeah and I show great fantastic segment. Oh yeah the rowdy mass. Laura is Whitney I go because I had Fahim on the first show Brian Simpson. You Know Brian Simpson. He got past the store. He's a monster black at the store monster should work so I had Assan Brian Simpson Dirk and Komo see myself. There is so funny Su- such a breath. I Dunno Brian. I'M GONNA kill or Yeah fucking killer all right so I had the pocket. Yeah yeah so I had him on the the late show early show ad for him. But I was GONNA have Whitney come by two and when he goes. I don't do years eve who wants us to rowdy. I'm like no. What are you talking about? Verschoor timeless easy second show is just that. There's a lot of booze going around. Well there are a lot of fights that broke out in Boston. I'm sure that's Boston in the hotel. And their next Saturday in the so but there's alcohol there and then you know when they're doing the county everyone's waiting for it so they're distracted the drop in the Chang it was just like is almost doing stand up at a restaurant because there's talking because they're they're ready to go. It was just different. Yep It's just different. Yeah I'm never comfortable in crowds especially on play times like New Year's Eve nine people die of all the time in any any any crowds. I've anxiety if I'm same. None of my my shows I don't but if we go out after restaurant or somewhere like the mall with my family it's all like it's so out of character for me to go to a club so out of and that's really strange. I never but it was right near the end. It was actually part of the hotel. We're here when I when I was in Philly we don't show late and we were walking. The guy goes on the guy we get back in not over. His brand are Brennan. Uh Not around here wait till you get back to your side. Yep Damn for he'll watch out for you yeah he was great. Yeah they didn't tell me. You were walking Norton Orleans Nolan's and Koch will you guys. Don't go down that way. You're walking the wrong way. Oh Yeah Yeah Huachen he goes. It doesn't give talk about your. UFC stuff they they have something called Pea Stolas. Spoilers if you one block left of Yeah Mardi Gras Street. Where the fuck about my dad's seventy eight year old friend? One of his oldest friends I started. Tell a story about the big Guy I got one guy was like six six and he goes he in the middle of my story in front of both or families extended families. Because what is this about you big guys with you. You're always talking about muscle and he goes. You GotTa go thank you when I say I was sick during the holidays. I'm telling you man like like pneumonia and then tiger had it. My girl had it and then Boston's right get sick and then you know no one's sleeping. I was like four days of no sleep in a row as like. Oh the South Bay torture people when we capture isis. That's how we tortured me sleep. Keep the lights on. They play babies crying. Well that's what was going on. I'm sleeping on the floor. You know I'm asleep and being sick now at hunger in cold that and it brings you to your knees. That's been my house. Yeah Hungrian being called horrible cold when you're sick you realize just how you're so flash flood but also but also health is priceless. It's there's nothing Rogan has said. When you're sick you on one thing that's health day you want four thousand things the yeah? I do a better job taking care myself for. I'd have to a better job. Well you're pretty you deep but I think you do you exercise and I thought well excise every soon day sleeping here that lately. I haven't because you know being sick and then on the road I have like five weeks on week off. Five weeks on knows what I do. I sleep 'til I wake up. I can't do because my internal clock might so no matter what so. Let's say a like for New Year's example. Let's say I do store Improv. Laugh and say hey get home at midnight. A map five thirty no matter what five five thirty two years so my body lie down stay. Stay stay in bed not open. Open up the stay in bed and sleep and you will but you gotta go through that initial our sometimes back to sleep. That's what I do. I don't care if I know you're good at it. I wake makeup and I sit in bed. No feels rest because your heart starts beating your on. You know what's weird is I got my little man. Nintendo switch because he played at target for Christmas and he loved them like really. You're only him before like Nintendo Switzerland. let me get him one so get them that and I give them the Kitty Games like the Ryan from from Youtube Mario Kart game and I got him a Paul Patrol game. They're Super Kitty. I'm like he's only four Ho- he'll be formed FABU. Yeah like give them these he gets and I'm like Oh these are two simple and kitty for him so I go on so he goes to bed. I'm pissed I spent all this money on staying kid on fucking like it. So I get on their connects to the Internet. You can download games all right. Oh Doodo Papa Bear I might you know what I grew up with more combat. So I go on. He likes he when so everyday I walk in the House we wrestle soon. Eight home. We're wrestling that's just what he'd like to do so as soon it. So I'm like maybe like a fighting game might be a little graph boom and they have more combat eleven. Last time I played with it's more combat to twenty years ago dude so download it and I'm like Oh let me just set it up for him put on easy mode. I'm playing like Holy Shit. I played four out. I learned all the fatalities and then the next morning. I'm like I'm just GONNA try. See what he thinks. We're watching your. Hey bubba you want to try the try your Nintendo again. He's no pop. Good I go. Oh look there's actually a new game honor look at this. I'm showing. He's a Gimme that dude. He's fucking in it's addictive. It's well he just. He likes the how hard hard it is for him to do it. which is a good sign? But then it's more combat so it's both gory score my terrible parent. Well I'm glad you brought. We're a son son. I catch implants sniper three day and people are getting shot. He's eight they fall down. Blood everywhere I'm like all right but then again I again I go I keep you gotta do is draw. This is the next thing I know I'm playing. I know next thing while I'm coaching. I'm going no you gotta you the beat you get crazy. Here's the problem my son. Can I borrow your pet. He's been skiing all day. They're watching mean girls. I'm like what are you GonNa do if you WANNA play Fortnight it's good you build a strategic the people are I guess in roadblocks they these kids like all right. You've been physically active for eight hours. Well my son is crafty. Little Little Soul Mitch. He's eight he's he's little he's craft. We certainly have Blue Kagi. Well he was. He does not do that. Oh but on Youtube. He was putting in sex S. S. E. X.. Different forms then. He put in cantaloupes. Because he thought that's cantaloupes because he heard somebody say Canelo Hello Scott some can hold is he. He's eight and his search history is I was like. Hey it was all he's chicks sucking I mean tents and I'm like yeah I don't and I go there I go it's going on your old man like scandal scaling. If you'RE GONNA use my ipad you can play those games. Don't be going on Youtube. And looking up sex he goes. Why not very good question? I understand you're you're a boy I get it. I'll adult young right now. I gotta help you through that stuff. That's all I said he goes really Papa Lights Cantaloupe. So so you're not gonNA stop and he said Oh he's interested in shame them no you can't because then then there's like sex bad gift it then. He won't embarrass him. Do you know what I watched. I watched The Kevin Hart documentary. I'll really have you seen it now. It's good his fan fucking asking a few people some comics. I don't watch him like boasting about himself. All this I'm like really and then J. Texas. Have you watched him hard hard documentary on Netflix. So you know he goes. I work on. Computers Inspired Watch it. He was one of the best doctor. Ever seen is a five part series. Do so. Obviously it's it's his thing you know it's called. Don't fuck this up the stuff that he left in. That makes him look bad. You just can't help but love the Guy I love him. I told told you that. Yeah I know I I. He's one of the they leave in You know him cheating on his wife yeah they show like when he finds out you know it was one of his best friends who did it. The talks about that They have seen on there because he has like a Red Paper Cup. Boys where the fuck they calm his crew. They came up with all and they're all great his cruise crazy. Yeah and they're all doing their own thing right but he has his trainer. Who's with them all the time? WHO's this boy? And they're super close. He's part of the Red Cup boys or whatever it is and he E- once he finds out one of his friends is the one who tried to extort money from film the sex tape and leaked it to his wife once he found that out here this like horrible resentment in them. And he's I it's come out one way or the other and just came out and I was gonNA edit by sending out to let you guys see it so his boys are doing a sean fill some giant arena. Now the flying back on his private jet and they're drinking and gambling and Chemicals so I decided to leave it in so you can see how it is dude. I can't believe he left. Descend because he's drinking and something you know He. He has this inside them. It's going to get out and his His Buddy who's his trainer. Who is closest friend? He starts arguing. So you're telling me you would have made money from work for me and a stranger successfully Kevin. Are you shitting me here. He goes you own a home motherfucker. And he's belittling he's like you don't make money you wouldn't be shit without me. This trainers huge. They are literally about to fight the got these boys get between them. The stores playing called the cops so they land the cops are there so Kevin. The next days I K- I had this horrible issue. Come one way or nothing love and so the next day. They're all good but the stuff he left in is oh his dad his dad. In there they have the euro supposed to host the Oscars. I got choked. There's a strain of shelters trainer. Ah I got choked up. Because he's in doing shows in Australia and they show him when he gets the call to host the Oscars and he doesn't get that emotion on the show. He's so much like his buddy gets married. But when he gets a call from the Oscars I got choked on the podcast because because he called because he sounds. You're not really appreciate appreciate up to any hangs up in the chemistry us and they would say goes Chris. Rock Bill Cosby and goes through the hose. Loss carriers and Kevin Hart and he'd start talking to his mom mom passed away. He's like this is for you. I know you're watching. I was GONNA motion. He's just the biggest step in my career and he's like emotional he's like I can't wait. and that shows these fucking bloggers bring up his tweets and they and they film and they cover everything where he's like his sorry fifty thousand times but he even. He admits Mitzi made a mistake. Because his publicist goes Kevin. You're not dealing with this right. You have to acknowledge because he said his seniors. If my son was gay out will possess do this. He didn't knowledge the violence part. You said Oh I apologize. That's not me but he didn't actually own it in come out with it but it shows before he did the video or anything his his publicists teams like Kevin. This is this what we're GONNA have to do to make sure y'all dossier and all that and he's not listening to him and posts a video from his bed and his boys SUV comics or clown like Betty Ozias three chains on like. He's fucking easy. His eyes are barely open. He's just like hey listen he's he's just firing off what he wants to do boomer. I'm telling you fucking up in so you can see all these companies stop fucking with him all his friends like he's he was doing that movie with the same The Guy from breaking bad that movie thinking he's like Bryan Cranston's out as far as doing pr with you because he's on Broadway and the big LBJ Biji community up there. I get it and she goes. We do we need a issued apologies tunnel. Watch Allen I've done on there she goes Kevin. That's not gonNA work man. If you're GONNA do this. You have to acknowledge that he's like fuck down my doing this and then it shows now right. That was like a year ago. Shows him now is fucked up. He's got he's like. There's a lot of times I'm right and he's I was so wrong on that he's I got in my head and I I'm with you remember. I cannot wear like fuck these people with Kevin. He's right he's apologize. But you you watch Kevin even like I didn't own it. I was like no. It's all that's the way I thought I thought I was doing the right thing by on it. Yeah he's he's I'm telling you the documentarist ages so just really quick. I mean when I said that Bill Cosby had about twenty specials. He does remember how we looked it up and it was only one bill cousin. Yeah you're right. I thought we looked it up. No and could find one album. Found like a test when he's done over twenty three specific especially like one hour number of how many how many hours you know. This is about a couple of months ago and I was like. Oh He's done twenty five or something and we can only find one for whatever everything looks up on Rogan. Jamie was like they're twenty three some crazy number of hours like crazy. I'm saying like Bill Cosby is fucked up as we were talking about what what what he was comic. Who is you and I were talking? I don't know where you're going I was talking about. Because you mentioned Bill Cosby with the Oscars. Yeah yea comics. But he was so tragic during that we'd see. Kevin was such a big deal for me. Like oh I wanna see this documentary. And it'd be you you can't help but love shit for that to get shit for the mid just dumb asses online like you'll just talks bullshit or hater comics. But when he wins he's he wins every time but he what's funny is like you see how good he takes care of the people around him. Yeah how grateful he is. And how telling you and how he gives with my own eyes and no one else did this. He did this on the deal. This girl wasn't even as she was like. She was this little Gal who is running back and forth and she was probably like forty was so hartford she was trying to stop and she some guy was like spilled something and he just. I watched some clock and he just wanted to reach him pulls out like three four hundred dollars and he just goes. You're doing a great job tonight thank you. Did it really really quietly just to help that personnel dad like he didn't raise. His Dad was absent. Father Absentee he just wasn't around could gain name it. It wasn't around but his dad's around now right and he has some condition where he needs. Like all this medical device and Kevin's bring around the family and the and You know the dad's that's not doing well. And he's like a cab so he takes the side and again we've come up stuff in. He's in and they're like in this like sweet or New York something and he's like. Hey Cav you know I need does aims to stop the run around. I don't need the whole sad story. What do you need? He's about brother I need. I need about seven grandiose I was GonNa give you twenty. Just come to me tell I mean which. Don't give me the runaround twenty. That's more than enough all right. Dawn love be like fuck. Do love that kind of money just to hear you. GimMe Money Man. A and they're gonNA come to ask you is GonNa Fuck do how much your watch it man. Listen I got some stuff. Yeah what are your coat onto your reminds me. We announce officially did it online but we delete guests of the year and away landslide. A lot of people are like why was in Theo on their fuel on the show this year. He came on there but I also feel acids to take them off the voting just so the fans. No we didn't take them off. I was the only monitor so he defended only he wasn't he well he was like I was in this year man. United King's thing so weird like US running he goes. I wanted to step away and just you know I'm not gonNA defend the bat. I want to step off somebody. The Opportunity House go. I had you on there just us. 'cause you're the defending champions. Take me off. Yeah because if he wanted to you know turn it up leap. You'd made a video or some shit. Come on delays performance. The the best us out of all the years is the best I've ever seen looks. He's so great. How that instagram? I posted you. You see that fourteen thousand you see it go to a grand per se. The video he posted was cool. Yeah Right Tara. Watch how Knox's is play this one. Yeah Hey bud sobrie. How's your New Year's Eve show at the at the Wilbur I heard You sold it out there last minute. Inching up to the Latte inch and up to showtime right inch up to showtime. He sold the last ticket was I. I think eleven hundred. Yeah was it. Fourteen years eve was in Chicago yeah what's that holds. I don't remember I remember now. Five hundred fifty seats. Yeah they me so I did two two New Year's eve and I did too before that for that's fourteenth. I didn't see Tom like looking at him. The most punishable face and he's just lying there all funds his night. He's a I in worlds so fucking funny. That was the best and we left voting up. You know and I it was close. I mean it wasn't isn't strong landslide. I knew it Chris tire that since he was a kid he lives to do one thing. That's make people laugh. That's what he likes to do is the best he goes. I go he do wrong. My Man Dragon did did you just. So you flew to Wilbur on Saturday or Friday. I flew to New York. I flew to New York that on the thirtieth and. I took a train up to Boston on the thirty first. I went to see play in New York called halfway bitches. Go to heaven. Heavens shoot I did see my family but they remember they were in Utah as well. I flew to New York. I went saw halfway bitches. Go to heaven direct fact my my boy John. Ortiz doctrine is enact. SICK director I was with John. Jimmy Burke I was crying I was crying through that play takes place in a women's shelter. I cried twenty five times and in some of the best actors I've ever seen in my life. All Donald John Williams blocks bird. That's that's Sean right there John. Yeah phenomenal actor. An amazing did a sick job. He wrote it. He directed it. That motherfucker right there. Who writes that motherfucker right? There is the Pulitzer prize winning playwright and genius. But that's not John Not guy wrote it. Only God Jonah teases in the player. No no John just directed a baton. John John started the Labyrinth Theater Company with a guy named Philip. Seymour Hoffman. They were best friends. Phillip Seymour Hoffman Smith and John Ortiz. And the I mean you know. He's I've seen some great stuff from there. But he's amazing amazing actor such a great guy. I I see John Damn near every day. Box General my neighbor so proud of a man of such a beautiful play so people can write some people people can act and right and you don't know who the fuck they are and put them up against anybody. It's just like you just like. How are you this good? Oh Fuck and playwright my God what else did you do out there. I saw the Great David Jimmy Burke and we acted like silly geese. That's what I did and I went and did the Wilbur okay. I didn't do much as as long as I'm with my friends. I mean good food drinking good wine and seeing theater and now to stand up everything else is getting better. There's nothing there's nothing better. That's what that's what Chris Rock said. uh-huh Chris Rock Kevin Hart when he doing that. Doc He goes. I miss this miss us. I missed the comedy scene. Because you know you're not really in clubs you so be having clubs so he's at the cellar and he's like sitting around the table with Chris Rock and his buddies in whiskey new like this is what I miss. Yes this yes because you know. You're all that's where we went went to the seller to I always go to the seller because I just love that upstairs at the ultra nationalist. Weekend Jan January tenth eleventh. That's nice weekend. Ah Yes now. We got an next week. I'm at the foxwoods Connecticut and I drive to Boston Wilburn. Eleven I've been where we're twice. It's great love the Wilbur Wilbur Nashville Ten and eleven ZANIES DOT COM Carried spot YEP will Nashville Chicken for Cleveland January thirtieth January thirty thirty one. I is yet it three weeks two weeks off boys five weeks in a row here. That's a lot off another five being a row. 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Fight over seventy five dollars off water. Straight teeth worth. I Know Candy. CODA comes fighter code fighter. How's your the holidays? Get Good I went home to San Jose and then I came back Hung out with my sister. She came to visit saw. ooh Girl she's very you. We ended up stopping by a bar in Santa. Monica got hung out with Chin and mouth guys Daniels trying to hit on her then turns out. She's but yeah had fun Shadow to Corey for taking care of us that night. That's cool Yemen. The Youtube the to you. Call some problems to you. Call some British sister single to Yes yeah congratulations. That's nice in San Jose in two weeks. Are there fighting. I'm a stop on my come on up Till the sears. Come on back back in school. Ready Ohio while I'm in Ohio Columbus. That's where she's at. Yes you say. Oh Ah got sucked into that. Ohio state CLEMSON game. I'm not of college football guy. I can see what caused football. Be Very exciting. The kids they make mistakes last minute. All right back to your sister's so campus another month come on their friends Let's do it and what do you mean it's coming up to assist goes to school. Ohio State State Ohio state clemson again like knowing about focus football right. Oh okay so this was submitted by Anthony Diaz and Just a little update with the college scandal so Lori Loughlin is pretty sure that she's going to spend some time in prison and she's taking it. Upon herself to hire a prison coach. The teachers hearth get hard. That's exactly what she's she's do that though because then it makes the news and then it sounds like you're getting rid of but also you're not gonNA. You're not gonNA do hard time but the ones that you should know about prisons. It's there's way more fights violence and female presence in the mail. You know that did not yes. I'm a big fan of sixty days in. Is that true. Yeah Yeah and they they divide women and the men and every time they go now for you women and they give them training and they'll because the women there's way more fights there's way more there's there's way more drama. There's a lot of fights way more than female prisons way more. No structure like the guys that structure is this gang grace. Ace carry shake your fucking Dick but the women that just they fight fighting these people on sixty days in. Why the fuck are they doing this once so they go a few guys like? I'm a corrections officer. I like what it's like on the other side. New Season started last night. Shot Amy. So He's all you know correctional officer. I WanNa feel like what's like decide aside swamp. Didn't they hit this one. Then go to another guy. He's like You know I'm African American. I played football and I've always been tough on him. See if I make it through Jail then they get those when I was a marine for a while. But I'm just a big Fan. See what it's like he gets in there and I you know I haven't seen passes I hope so D- in as soon as he gets any tell you what's out he's like I'll fuck what did I do. Fuck this. Here's a senior you can go to jail. They go undercover for sixty days to help the the A prison or jail learn like what like they get the inside. Look like what. They're doing wrong how they could do better. How so? There's there for sixty days as an inmate native cover stories the sixty days dude in fucking a real time legit jail. They had one guy in who he went when he was younger and he was in a gang they put them in there. That motherfucker Acre started running things and they would take him out for interviews. Like what are you doing. Went back to my old ways. madge sixty I'll do one hundred twenty in this bitch and they like Lungo he just took shit over here. I had a friend who went to jail. Real tough guy and same thing with him he just naturally Kinda took over. Yeah but in sixty you said to me he goes I really good. I don't I don't get why they do it though there's no money you don't get paid the experience I don't know I don't know stupid at it. I thought maybe it was like you know. At least you make some money. I don't know one hundred. Anti survived wouldn't be fun. It looked so terrible in the sleeping arrangements. Terrible that's your cot. Enjoyed that shit behind contraband. They're assholes it's crazy good. Show them thank all your show. Always your show great show. There's a new show though that I'm really into called thousand pounds sisters the best show on TV thousand pounds sisters and they are such characters. So here's the prom. The thousand compound sister. That's them they're they're so one the left's basically seven hundred thousand zones forehead zoom in on her forehead swollen. This one is so fat. The fat's are growing out of her head. That's incredibly great. The system goes from the south shields. Yeah we we thought maybe two or something like that. We took her. Many doctors turns out. She has so much fat just came. Start shooting forehead. I've never seen this. Oh it's but they're characters they're funniest. What is she holding there? That's making lasagna. That's beef and then she goes. She goes hey shopper. Bacon Bacon the LASAGNA. She has girl you fat she is that would be pretty tasty and then they put Lasagna in it. It's fantastic and then they can't get a scale away August because they're so heavy they can get a scale so they go to junk yard. What's here it's hard to watch on these sisters go to? That's just the fat one one. Now those are the sisters but they go to a junkyard away in and the first one weighs in and she's like I don't know she's like they go to a junk yard they can't go. There's there's no regular scales. Don't go up that high so one goes I think she's like more seventy working on that she's like six seventy or something like that. They start crying They do but so they're trying to surgery by bypass surgery or some- so so this is a question. I don't feel so bad. Actually look at the over sized Youtube Channel. I bet they do that. I'm so so then. They're they're saying you know. We have like one hundred K.. Subscriber she goes and we're GONNA announced are the how tear in announced our fans that lose it. WE'RE GONNA lose weight and get the surgery and the fans were not happy. Well the fans are shit has because you want. Yeah one of those days. Yeah you're not gonNA live well. She knows that she was. You know I'm I'm a die I WANNA live. I don't know what happens episode. The debuted last week won the heavy V.. One on the left with the fat face the fat forehead stooge. She starts talking because I told my girl we're watching. She has A. Who'd be into the Theo? skews you use me. There's the Chubby chasers out there and I went. I bet you there's some black dude out there who is obsessed with that big fat one show now off she. Here's I I I got a man. We haven't met Bob some black dude like just that's out goes man. Yeah Oh so we'll see we'll see if it works out get married. That's incredible that is simply incredible. The some people are into very. I've watched my five hundred pound life. I for whatever but the thousand pound sisters they all. Unfortunately they don't they don't live long today. I mean listen even with the surgery the success rates not good. It's like less than five percent now with a hall metabolic. This the best part the heat either talking to the doctors doing the surgery the doctor and they're both sipping a big GULPS and Dr. They're trying to talk. Dr And you see the dodgers young guiding seem. He's just annoying US stops because they're drinking the soda through while talking is that's a huge big oppy drinking. How much soda I was? So did you guys drink a day and the smaller one goes shit. How many sodas? He's do I drink. She calls them Sodhi so I call every drink Saudis now she shit. How many Saudis? Let's see I finish a twelve pack. I eighteen a day and she goes died though doc and she goes like this. The doctor's excuse me she goes their diet so what we were told we were told. is we drink the Diet. We can eat sugar bigger because it cancel it out in the doctor. Who has that's what they told you how she is? That's what they told me. And how's that working out for you too. And she goes motherfucker weird plot to they. They both start laughing. They're funny man. Funny the fuck of Weird live through. She hits the fat one. I can start. This is John. Where do you even find the channel? I know these general man. It's so funny. And then they get workout our commitment and the master but their guts hangover so they can't put in their legs and they're trying to figure out how to do your prisoner excited they're all it's miserable how or ankles hold up. I have no idea lead the crop anyways sh they further workout equipment. They get the you know the shake weights and she's all and her sister goes down to feel it does she has a little bit. I don't keep doing it. She's get away from your face though. Oh my it's so funny but the reason the reason why it works because they're funny. Yeah I bet for things they get their mom really fucked. Lake made fun of them all time. When there? There's there's some crazy sex abuse it goes on to thirty one and thirty to thirty one and thirty two AH Lord the one catwalk now. Let's go to go to five fast. FACS what's going on there. You see it not right where you were all the same five facts you need to know. Give me the five one. Tammy amy or Youtube Stars in the France out let me see this a reach out to Tlc to help help them watch this real quick. Yeah she says Da Sweet. He lashed Mississippi. Whatever I'm doing notice of which I'm doing okay? All right. I've seen enough. That's good luck. Keep going amy is married. Oh yes she has a husband trailer green here. Her husband's funny. He's like Shit. I'm lose weight next year to the Mitch. Shut up keep going. Timmy tried to pull a self last. That's the bigger one yeah. Well there's something obviously well. She hasn't left the house in seventy seven years. It's a real shame she leaves can Gio Dan. Movie of course the biggest hurdle there model Darlene. Oh so they tell their mom so the first time she Chevrolet House in seventy years they meet with the mom and I go. We're going to have a bypass stomach surgery to lose weight. MOMS like you ain't GonNa stick with that Shit Union do shit like damn. Yeah you're the MOMS and astle eight also the mommy skinny no keep going. That was the fiber legit five. Amazing Amazing Yeah. Mom seems like a real fuck impeach. There's some weird shit going on there that Child abuse and horrible. I'll tell you this these these. TLC Eighty six up my six hundred pound life. When this Sean eating them like hungry they showed the foods they like? They they they crazy crazy. The best is one of the other doctor and they haven't lost weight and like I don't know stick to your diet. Fifteen hundred calories a day and the doctors no no motherfuckers. You're lying three. You've put on thirty pounds one way to do that. Father it'll make food makes Aligarh people. My father is a man never lies yet. If you talk to them I I was like so God I understood you eight. Look at that far. What happened there? It's fat that just stopped my. She's so fat it it just it just fills into are there no. There's nowhere else to go all right. Okay so my dad is crazy as much ice cream yesterday and lemon meringue pie cool and I had some whiskey and he goes not you did and you also had. How many bananas and he goes? I don't know to you're lying you. Are you had an entire Bushel of bananas. He'd whole Bushel. I go so that's what you did matt go food makes you a liar. You're lying about. I'm not in a court of law. I don't know what this compensation it's unbelie. That's just fascinating. I'll tell you let me up so thousand bound sisters. What's the next that's crazy? You GotTa Watch it get okay so oh that's so cool a couple of days ago. This came out that this woman She is a forty three year. Old single mother who was going to Georgia State University but had to drop out. Because you couldn't pay a seven hundred dollar outstanding balance. She also is a hairdresser when she isn't driving for Uber. One day she he went and picked up a passenger. They got to talking and she told him about how every time she gets around to having the seven hundred dollars to pay off her school debt. Something would happen with her kids where they would need that money and so she eventually got kicked out of school and a couple of days later the university called her saying that somebody paid it off for or her she found out that it was her uber passenger and so she was able to register for classes she just graduated with her associate's and he actually went to her a graduation to see her as cool. That's so cool. And now she's going back to get her elvis. That's been together a loves cool. who'll feel good to good story? Can I brag for second outside of the happened to me. I think it's worth IT I. I'm fifty two. I was on my flight. Yeah I'm not gonNA give the hairline or anything else. I'm on my flight. I ask the lovely flight attendant Something about if I buy some food she goes. Yeah because I'd fall asleep and then I went back to sleep and so I basically was in my i. I don't know you know I feel like I looked like she sheron jetblue i. It doesn't matter and I'm like I'm probably like that. And as I get off the after the plane this twenty something year old uh flight attendant goes thank you. This is for you and gives me a Napkin with her name and number all year and I was like you fucking got it got it going. I did not nor did I but I will admit that I feel I sent a text saying thank you. I'm flattered cocoon not available. I did I just didn't want heard of feel like I. I didn't want her to be embarrassed. And then she was beautiful doom grade but she said this is the year. I don't want to sleep on it and I was like well. That's awesome. Wow but I was like I. I said this made my day. I'm sorry come on man I mean I was like the kid still God. Hey hold on and I was sleeping all the time. You'RE GONNA be this Shitty Shitty. Let me win. You know you got to win right now. What are you GonNa do but why did you say you're unavailable well? Because I am you know and spend that was that that situation is just what it is you know. I don't know I just I was. Yeah but I ruined her year. No I said thank you and you're awesome but I just you know not even a Dick Pic. No the start the euro. No fresh ruin it. Though I was sleeping I guess I look sexy looking a lot right a little bit how Vulnr- I'll look at my last. Do Drool to a little bit of luck. You see we mouth she. How's it look like the white girl girl? Well that's a good question. I'M NOT GONNA mention why girl had a white girl Asian Asian. Not even that. Oh Black. I'm very proud of my since the black girl. I'm not saying anything. I just WANNA feel this out. What do you think I'm GonNa fit you the finest poor girl no I just don't Wanna I don't WanNa out her somehow but I'm not right? Yes in fact she was she was was it a man sister. Was it a man you son of a bitch was no justice flattered. I would have been just flattered but it was just like I was just like the one sleeping on a plane is a Sandra so cute when I sleep. It was a sister and he told her no. I know I'm not saying the race of the person but they were not white. I'll tell you all the details L.. Search you going to figure it out but I was so flattered and she was good looking chart that still thinking. That's a dude. I'm up but the point is it was desirable while you're working along right. You got your hair just pissed me. I don't know Cutie now I think if you got your shitty do with my hair. I don't know I'm on TV. I know hey come on come on. Cloning Hey cad my sister. She's going to see her. Her daughter broke. Yeah no so. She went to this The Sky was she was in school have fell hit her near knee. hitter own. Especially joining you. Break your nose. Yeah my sister went to a plastic surgeon. I can expense reset it. It's all good. She because her daughter's beautiful SEC- has money. It's got money. She's talk of his where I'm going to spend money. I said you asked that fucking guy about lid surgery Militias done on your is not the best guy to do Melitz and I'm going to be I can't even cuter do not even know I'm GonNa come in and tell somebody notices Brian. While you're here on your lids sky's the little Taylor with the hair haired Donner K.. There's a limit to what I can do with. My doctor is like I can do here. I can do do like can do next. And then table Cam. What are you talking about? What next for one careful? My neck is tight. I don't have chicken. Let's get on my neck. Were just spitballing ideas. Now for one doing what. What you TIRR net? My neck doesn't look old then. Why are you shaking? But saying yes at the same time the diagonals your neck looks like Willie Nelson the. I'm acuity dude. I I still got it. That's all. That's so cool. That little twin Doug Young Hey Man don't twist don't dig me anymore when you know you're getting older as a man is one came installed looking at you and I'm I used to walk around the hottest thing I was like. I'm so hot dude. I went I went to the mall earlier today to get to the G. The men's jeans I gotta go through the the makeup and perfume and a lot of tweaks working in north order or Bloomingdale's dude. It is murderers roam. You get your Dick Suck you fall down. It's like a fucking. Oh Yeah it's just a value and they like engage the man some big man. Oh Yeah Jog through you. Get Your Little Red Riding Hood get dry humped with there. Is I feel so uncomfortable. Yeah they love you is on your Just a big man thing gauges Brennan. Well what else we got. Who was in front of knows you communities Brennan had skinny legs though I went skinny? I go what Okay just really tight jeans. That's writing but jingle dog got some cult on every day done it twice Since the the person you can work out but you don't put on you don't put any more size now. I don't WANNA try. Don't do anything that you could if you really I I mean I could pop some size. Yeah I mean you have to eat a lot and lift different. Yeah you lift. If I was the only thing I do now is dead. Lift and bench dumbbell still to that heavy. Oh Yeah what do you use for the dumbbells. Hundreds buys do set the time with those ideas the dumbbell and then I do the depth and I do not. Yeah I do a lot and then I do Peleton twice a day but when you were I do Dip I dip every day. Tips are good Oh no no no the tobacco. Oh those are cool too hard on your joints but I- tobacco Elissa Nicotine Patch when you were training fighting. Wasted you our training. What when you were training for heavy heavy daytime? You did big Papa of heavy see. You were doing Olympics Shit. What's a week I'd go ahead? I'll really say Abbey but you've been lifting weights heavy since fourth grade sort of right. Yes that's stunt your growth. You might be the only true. And that's a mess. Nacho you might make you grow bigger and it's not free to sixth grade wow grape creatine and I would ship my pants. no-shows doing it to look like Ed McCaffrey. And so you just you would just lifting all obsessed with the amazing and. I think that's why you never got injured. Actually you're the only athlete I know did for thirty years. WHO's actually doesn't have? You don't have any issues Jim. I even have any operation. nope wow nothing. That's a big deal to play hips. He'll tixx I read the bike so much. I WANNA get a regular bike like a road by but if you if you if you think you keep lifting your whole life that's the best way to stay injury-free yeah not go too heavy right but even your neck your you still have that problem with your neck or are you good mental tight. Yeah that's not. You know well by Brian Neck issue then on the plane I I went. I was on the train to Boston and I went. I Agree House. Mother took some CBD oil put that on my neck it works shut Pierce Brecqhou. Yeah and then I I had took an leave. That did it right. It did it fucking did it. Now Papa Lights wake up in the mornings after school. I pop that Nicotine Patch. You know you're that Peleton Riding High Papa Nicotine it's good dip. You'll hi Oh oh yeah we'll get. You bought a little buzz in the morning. I'd sip it with coffee pants. I've read jump up that Peleton few times Hanish the workout thing about Peleton can't pause is it. So I'm missing some of the reps But Yeah I do. Nicotine is good for your brain. How about my dad I I hi my father roasting me my own father? I'm telling a long story with a bunch of people and I'm I'm I'm just adding stuff in the in areas like laughing. My father goes now. How much that story do you guys think is true and I was like? Oh I didn't tell Oklahoma attacks you. What does I'm getting ready to do this Josh? I'm on this casino. He knows what it's like. It's a big deal to get on the casino tour like it's a big deal so you know you gotTa Sell Tickets Right Against Casino tour. So I've done bore Dada which is huge huge Harbach. which is huge? It's gone great so I'm in. Oklahoma on Saturday. Did Brick town on Friday. Oklahoma City drove to Tulsa Oklahoma Rain. fucking crazy rain. Some there for you know a Hard Rock Hotel Tulsa and fuck in An hour before the show a tornado. Warning off all right near there am I. I'm in my hotel. Unlike the fuck is at the magic in Lucas Papa mice. Cancel the show mango. What year that Tornado? We don't get those in December especially this close. It ain't good everybody's leaving it's a ghost down there in the casino. What I gotTa do showman? Here's I see. We're half an hour. I'm like dude. I'm like because there is a line of text me. I went dude. I'm doing this Jain in casino. It's fifteen for the show. There's eight people in their seats. Like sixteen hundred. We're supposed to be sell out huge and I tell the guy I can't go out there. Do those people tell them to come in the Green Room. I'll do the show for her act. I don't it out. They're not going to send the stage like they've had like a fucking kissed her. They've had like these huge stages so pink. Yes I'm like. Just have them come on stage outperform. Don't even the crowd and I go. Listen is there any way we can start half an hour later. You can't do it because the native American Rules we have to keep time. It's different like I'm sure you can start start. Leonard other clubs. Were on native American land. Here we can't start any late. I go do this. Eight people had their bro. Here's I I don't tell you man he's do you WanNa can't say no. We can't cancel it's given another fifteen minutes so is okay like maybe push to eight. Oh five at seven fifty. Five people came in she aces. They didn't know once they found it was gone to. Oh Man Nightmare Kansas show it. Yeah I WANNA die eight or in Kansas City. I got snowed in but tornadoes. A whole different thing all Jay Z. Snow just can't I was I was I was scared. I'm like oh I we leave. I don't I don't want to die at a hard rock in and if that fucking tornado hits it hard rock how many top tier knows terrible. No it was. Everyone's scared man. It was cool great show. Do we came out was like when Lleyton Buffalo Flo two years ago the like a blizzard. Oh I call just on my dude. I'm in Buffalo. There's a blizzard man. Why the fuck would you stay out here? In December cancelled a shows us in Buffalo. Did so he was talking club owner. I guess this Buffalo. What we do do people came into the Solo shows fucking spent a snow? Will he'll come to more people call them. They is fantastic. O'Brien Buffalo New York and I was driving in. There was a snow blizzard up up in the mountains. And it's been a long time since I've driven man O'Brien slip sliding all over the fuck and pushing a little bit. Because I was going to be late day just made made my plan four minutes. How Driving Derek and a son from Oklahoma City to Tulsa right? We rented a SUV and I don't know I just drive man at the open I was not. There's rain but whatever issue Dirk goes can you slow down because I looked at my family one hundred ten. You're one hundred hundred ten. That's go to fast publicize what wait. What your high? NO WE'RE GONNA edit that out. Why behind nicotine? Yeah Oh and I don't know I don't smoke weed. Do we need more. You're saying no never not blow anymore. No blow no meth meth. Definitely off off no resolution. No no more math our math. Fuck off the resolutions. The resolution now I feel like if I make up my mind to do something. Just start then. That doesn't matter like our New Year. Me And my brother talked Alec on the road. I eat bad because I'm excited to be in the city and everyone wants to go here go here so we've always been out like we go to places I told my brother we're getting older. We both got tightening up on the road. So mean he made a deal to tighten up on the road and then my house talking a little bit yesterday. Some I advocate. I don't want to talk about it just business. Wise any tighten up to twenty. I'm I'm so generous and friendly that it's not that people take advantage of me but I you know I'm I'm kind of your general like I'm very forgiving. Yes yes and then I have this situation going and I told you you're very one things that people allow Jews very. You're you are very generous. Probably you know I consider myself that where you might be recklessly generous. Sometimes and there's nothing wrong with it actually is really isn't I don't mind that and then you're You are very forgiving in terms of like. Yeah and so are you so I call Joe and he my being crazy like skews me and I have to make it but you know my call is say if I oh you Rogan Todd Veldman. If I say that you're not crazy then you in. That situation isn't a problem but I. I was tiger in the grass. And that situation go without killing it. Up Money's Reggie. Let's tighten things. Yeah that makes sense. Mike won't be an asshole. You being a professional lucy. Also here's some people are worth a lot of effort. Some people aren't and it's that's that's always don't hurt people's feelings and like I just deal with it. Try breaking up with the girlfriend to me forty four years yes. My father said that one time he said he had fired somebody in and I was like cheese and he goes. But there's somebody who's waiting and who's been working flopportunity. You know a lot more. I like that about football like watching hard knocks and stuff where it's like. This is football this is professional football. You WanNa play in the NFL. The reason that we go play we'd take a seconds beginning is because he didn't fall for all those pitfalls and it's rare it's fucking rare super. Maybe right fallen those pitfalls. I'm not saying I'm better but but but yeah you know. That's what happens. We all know that we know what we say. The we always talk about this. If you're if you're after after something after something I'll be honest with yourself. You probably not doing everything he needs to do. Because what is the world when you when you're not button-down. It started to me. So I'm speaking from experience parakeet going. They go and stuff. What's next that's can you move by the way that's awesome? I'm sorry about that. Can you do the way we got somebody. There fifty people waiting in line if you if if you don't mind hundred percent so it's not August. I had this idea for a business. My buddies not makes a lot of money. He looked at me he goes. Don't do this. Goes it's a full-time job. Did this is. This is a rookie talk right now. But on the positive note resolution of sites firing everybody the positives of the other guys. It just kidding we fired you own the same system college the family but just don't say anything. John Address advocate. The fuck your sister you know. She's great we talked about. I don't talk too much but find three D. ish revamped wheels are in motion. I've been talking about this So we're gonNA rock and roll. Let me start torn together a little more So that's going to be a love. You address me fucking dress. Me unloved address Valet put the Sambre wore no come on. No Iran crummer compare interests me like a little kid. You ever try to put shoes on little kid and this is a few things are harder to the moon and putting fitting sued on foot. When he's like gyms fucking he'll altitude? I saw that espionage movie with Will Smith is a bird cartoons. There's lots fantastic fantastic especially for parents you know movies can be real shitty. went to that dude. He farted in the theater. Kids are just like whatever to farted so loud I could. I'm Tony. I thought it was to leave the theater and so it was. So I'm I'm like are you shitting. We're not it's dead silence it is fucking gay just lifts a little leg. It was so cute. I'm like wow wow do my. My son is not take a shower for four days now paying attention because we were skiing shit was my mother comes up with your son. Hasn't taken a shower. Four days I go great debt. It's we I had that a kid. I was like stripped down dot com. He didn't WanNa take a shower and get a fun either. The Fuck Outta here shower. Let's go and his whistle. His was lots awesome issues. 'cause wiping their has properly whatever shot. This movie is legitimate. Did you see with with my baby boy off. He's five weeks old Chubby. Get Real Chubby now and His favorite theme the though they they're so young so it's hard to get emotion oceanarium but the one thing we know for sure is will strip him down. So he's just in his fuck in a diapers and I give them a full body massage smile's so he telling from the smile so fat legs arms. Every time I get home I do it shit man. I'm at how issued sleep. You know. PUBS dying APAs dying. Yeah I see what I would do is just let the let me take care of all that and I just sleep on through Wakeup Cup WanNa do and I go out thing. Go go to work now. That's a fulltime job. Stuff GIG UH-HUH I love traveling. I had to bring my niece and nephew and my two kids on the plane just made just Albright had a check them into because guardian my niece nephew. That's a fun line awaiting and then Target and I saw a woman in front of me who had a one year old three year old and a seven year old and she was doing it on our own. Oh when I see on like like yeah. It's just like single parents single MOMS. It's like a single MOMS. have it hard so hard there are a lot of I was saying. You know if if I'm flying first class if if if I see a single mom with a baby I'll give him. I see if you have a kid. And you're a dude but you four tickets. Weakest won't take it really. Yep Mike are you in the back. The alarm won't do it. They think something's up. I think I look creepy. I don't know I mean they take me down twice. Yeah like No. We're good. We're we're back here repeat. We're really yeah. I don't know man it's like I I sit in first class and I make everybody else in the back there. I'm just absolutely. What was I going to say about that about your dad? I just thought like these can do to have kids. And then they just don't see their their kids. Fuck your urine loser. You're the definition of a loser. Don't do that. Don't don't do it man up and take care of your fucking kids and be there for them emotionally. Be there for them. If you don't you're you're a piece of shit but you just miss it out. Yeah you're missing out. Yeah and you're you'RE GONNA regret it you'll going to regret it. I hope whoever's listening to this. They're probably listeners. Have done this. Don't do it do whatever you have to be like his life and and pay pay for Shit. I don't care if you can't afford do it. What does she get so? I'm pretty sure you guys have seen this video. It's a video. You of the Polish laughing away a one I kept on grabbing at him. He eventually apologized and said that Love makes us patient but that day he lost his patients in that but he apologizes. Yes it she's ready. It's always one of us. Know they don't have always one of us who she grabs him hard. She's saying that she grabbed his arm bad. They say I can't really make I don't think so. I think a lot of people saw this video and they were really angry. Angry with pope there are people him to step down. Got which is up six people who I buy a lot of the fucking dummies on twitter. How rose McGowan? Did you see what rose McGowan tweeted after so we killed this guy who is he's an architect of the question is when you take out the most powerful man in Iran it is it can be considered active war. It's a very scary situation. I don't know we will go to war. I don't I don't I don't but I I I they said they're not how Iran's GONNA retaliate puts a puts it. It creates a dangerous situation in the Middle East. I don't know enough about I just don't want to. I don't know enough I don't like the way. Iran and Iraq went. I mean I don't like the way around enough Sorry Iraq and Afghanistan went and I'm very very worried about it all the should be but but at the same time rose McGowan goes deer on. USA disrespected your country. Here flag people fifty two percent of US humbly. Apologize we want. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us own so so so so slow money so we do know that this guy was basically one of the architects of Hezbollah. He was creating the same phenomenon in Syria and Iraq doc in Baghdad. Not not there for American interests. He is directly related to tied to killing Americans. This guy who geopolitically hugh politically is not our ally now should we have killed them both Iraq both Bush and Obama held off on doing so. Because it's a very risky. Okay thing to do. You're talking about the most successful general tactician And most powerful man behind the Khomeini that in in Iran right they have to in one avenue. There's already a proxy war. You know what I mean. By proxy they fight through other. You know sells other ways. Yeah and so. So Iran and and United States have always had an adversarial relationship this is such a provocation however the US has a second biggest Iranian population outside on future on him. But there there is. That's less because most of those Iranians are ex pats. They don't want that regime they wanna have a democratic Iran. So scary on yeah. It's a very complicated situation Rosen. Gallo we're not going but also rose rose take take it easy. Hey Go back to the Harvey Weinstein ship. Why are you tweeting? Ben Shapiro goes look the drama students have some say you you know as an actor. I try to stay informed but I try to keep my mouth shut because this is a complicated thought. Say though that there is I believe I don't don't trust after gone. I don't trust our our leaders very much when it comes to war. I don't trust what they say. They've lost my trust however ever this guy was going back to Bush to. This guy was always known as the architect reason why Bush and Obama did. There's a risky. Yeah they're nice man however details at the same time. This guy was what they say he was planning some some some real. You know some real operations. He was a mastermind. I don't know I don't know the answer. It makes me very uneasy to make all of us very really should. Yeah but but when you kill you know cut the head off of a snake and be careful it comes net. That's right sometimes. You get people who aren't intelligent but you know I'll tell you this about trump. I've never been a big fan of. He's not a warlike guy he's he wants to get his doesn't want to go to war. Yeah he was always saying that. So in in that sense I I have to believe. He's not looking for it but he was. He was notified from Iranian people. I don't do this man. You do this as trouble. But also a guy who had sent very clear signals that he didn't want any kind of confrontation with Iran. Iran became very emboldened by that. So when you you gotta remember you're talking about countries here you're not talking about people so when when you when you send out a signal that we are not we are not interested in any kind of violence any kind of war. Iran is very active As a proxy very active in everywhere from Afghanistan to Syria with the Bush they they they they helped the Russians with propping up the Assad regime. I I mean in Iraq. They've caused nothing problems so you know they. They are of a major player in that part of the world and there always has to be a balance of power. You're so maybe hopefully around goes holy fuck the. US isn't fucking around now. Let's all stay calm. There's pretty people though. But they're they're all. The leadership is also very cold and calculating and how they behave. This is all. There's a lot of showboating say face. There's a Lotta Shit that they do behind the scenes that yeah nobody wants a war now trump's especially with the US trump said. You don't want that he wants to release the US of A.. Hounds and Rangers are foaming at the mouth. Iran's a very different situation popular very it's and we don't want that they don't want to be killing to kill two hands where we don't want war. No it's a lot of American scary though. Fuck doc but rose what would you say you do besides Kreil timeout area. Would you. Would you say you do this. Did you really glory days of her. When she was fucked around with Marilyn Manson and she was on charmed school? She was beautiful. Yeah she was she goes off to defend man. What else you got this? Here's his way. Who is this other one? There's another one. Napa Britain found guilty over false rape plan. I Dunno I do think she's how do rose McGowan hot. Still do still yep okay do you. Can you imagine I can just imagine the toxic Fox's that comes out of her mouth after you're done bus bad nectar. Oh did I tell you about Second Harvey Harvey the other day like God. Rose McGowan walked back of her apology to Iran get slammed social media. Yes she apologizes. Oh anyway does an emotional person and she was done piece though okay. So on. New Year's Year's day the Detroit fired Detroit Fire Department. Posted this photo of the firefighters in front of a building burning it went viral and a lot of people. Hey obviously not a good and they said one. You guys don't know whether this photo was taken that night night or another night to the home was vacant and so were the other homes right next to it the other two they were both vacant. Everyone was safe but people are still very area of set that they posted up a photo of them in front of a burning houses. There's there are better looks to be had here. I love firefighters. God bless mall. There are better put. I would have said guy who is. Yeah they're firefighters safe. They keep communal nowadays with social media. Now this is the day when everybody has a point of view and you have to listen to it nowadays. Everybody has their point. Wasn't that's right. That's right but yeah now they're Fire Commissioner is is under investigation because of this photo. Oh God yeah. He's got to answer tastes. But I mean again. This isn't real. I'm sure if you went to Detroit Detroit Detroit. Freud asked the people of Detroit. We don't care yeah whatever but on social media and you know God ever who live in Fuck Luck in Florida. Can you believe this shit. Who has nothing to do with the real people are tweeting this? Yeah what else you got just one more one more funny now. It's funny. Hey Boys get together. House turns in ashes ashes. I know you got to pick together. Tiered sereny too far. It's also fuck these houses though right let it burn also Detroit ashes attract. You enjoyed toys post Quick question though before we go to the next one what is dead lift. Exactly what is versus like a clean birds on the ground you bend down you grab it and you lifted your living left lifted literally this. What are you doing Why why is that important? It's it's one of the one of the best measures for how strong you are. How how strong is the best thing you knew for? Full body accurate What's a clean clean? 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Yeah he's got a very soft it'd be so let me see. Let me see when he was younger. But now you know go pro see. That's the most recent one with his mom only she's obviously Just clean and they go. Yeah he's he's He looks like he's he's embracing his very feminine sort of is a model now look yes variant. Why not? That's one years there's like well I'm not saying I liked I. I'm attracted to like I. I have a fantastic Boehner right now but I think these young guys that left US number on the airplane you know and that was him he looks like older probably. That's a good question. Let me say that lease eighteen. Nice kids look like these. It's all seventeen. I didn't realize that I mean you just going through some stuff here. Yeah I I mean what do you think goes on wrong. What is he going to? Do you look so much like moths. He's a he's he's enjoying joying his beauty his. He looked so much like his mom. Yeah he's enjoying his beauty is yeah now. Do they have a daughter. I don't know I would imagine he's definitely definitely probably we. Hey Jesus you'll think sherlock you never know is that a straight straight is a Goddamn San Francisco road dude. He's not straight. I'm sure that blow out at some here on them. There's there's no daughter though Elizabeth Hurley daughter. Yeah how many kids. I think she only has one child. I think it's just him up here. I want a gorgeous woman was on a show. Oh Gosh do Bill Clinton floor and it looks like it's just your son to hang out. Yeah Oh wow get for him for works is worth losing your presidency over so hi I'd lose any job over Aaron. That's and she's English and she was. She was good at everything. Avenues feud wine gums. Dick Suck my girl right there. A Proper Cup of tea with milk kinna sugar. I'd love to get a proper cup of tea. England dude in May T- not giving you my wine gums back licorice dude fish and chips and a hand jaw. God I love it. Love it amount of Nashville. Come see me January. 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Trump kills the Middle East peace process

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Trump kills the Middle East peace process

"Positive America is coming to North Carolina. Come see us live in Charlotte at the Night Theater on Sunday August twenty third during the Republican convention. I'm a little word. We'll dig into the news and what it takes for Democrats to win the twenty twenty election along with some very special guests get tickets at crooked dot com slash events in the world. I'm Antonio before I am the voice previously known as Ben Ben Rhodes biddle even check the world does this is your MJ flu game. When you're you're putting suiting up putting this on your back I can't sit it out if jared can put together a peace plan I can take this podcast As usual fantastic segue before we get to the news items for today twenty two quick housekeeping. Things one my fifth and final episode of my Positive America in miniseries up. We made this one so fast asked. We literally stopped recording it like ten thirty PM. On Friday and head out on Tuesday which is not so. It's like the freshest news from the trail you get we also did an exclusive Iowa Caucus poll and you can find those results in that episode. Check it out to US winning It was a lot of fun I love doing it to two more episodes of the Wilderness. Dropped Jon favreau series with the Democratic Party. Hardy in the path to victory is fantastic. Everyone should subscribe and download and listen to it. Because I think it's an important gut check on wins fucking election so without any further delay. Here our top expense. So you previewed this. Trump's Middle East peace plan a story about how he refugees life being put at risk to advance trump's racist refugee policy. We'll see we'll talk a little. John Bolton doesn't want to do that the hacking Jeff Bezos some truly cruel new immigration policies more fallout from the Iran. Strike some updates on Mike Pompeo that you'd like that Burma Kashmir and then Putin puppies Putin puppies when something things always go together. Yeah they do they do. Our guest today is the host of America dissected Abdul. Well I'll say he's a public health expert and he's to help us understand the corona virus This virus were hearing about. That's emerging out of the Wuhan Province in China China. That is freaking everybody out. So let's talk Middle East peace for so in his greatest active procrastination since high school. Jared Kushner finally finished his Middle East. Peace Plan Good for him. I guess returning in but if he gets a bad grade this time dad can't buy his way into Harvard. Sorry I just can't resist swinging that prick but the stakes are higher here. So here's the gist of the plan. As we know it as a recording at one o'clock Pacific so Israel controls all Jerusalem. Israel is not forced to remove any West Bank settlements. There is no oh timeline for ending the occupation. These early guess just decide. The administration has previously promised to pull together fifty billion dollars in international investment for whatever ever is left of a Palestinian state. We should be clear that there is just no chance that money would ever materialize. That's an absurd number. Do not believe anyone when they throw it around just hours. After trump's speech the Israelis announced that they would plan to fully annexed the West Bank settlements Mood Abbas the Palestinian President wouldn't even take trump's call to discuss. This is plan. The Palestinians have cut off contact with the trump administration since they moved the US embassy to Jerusalem in December of twenty seventeen trump briefed blue and white party party leader. Benny this plan on Monday. But he didn't do a Prestbury with him. He did this big announcement today with Netanyahu in the East Room Thu- all the pomp and circumstance from Sanson press there. It's widely seen as just an effort to give a political gift. He's running in the third Israeli election in a year. which is crazy? I imagine. It's also just a cynical ploy to attract Jewish voters in the US. Then we should probably stop calling this thing a peace plan as just not but I'm curious what you think. Think of the substance and the real out here. My first thought Tommy is why we call this peace plan like these are the terms of surrender for the Palestinian right like every single issue. This doesn't decide with his what people have to recognize is on the the history of these negotiations right there are the series of quote unquote final status issues. So what is the future borders of the Palestinian state and what is the future of Jerusalem is a future Palestinian refugees. He's and what is the future of security for Israel under a deal on all four of these issues. Not only does this side with Israel. It goes behind what anybody could have imagined as the Israeli outcome in any previous peace process Jerusalem entirely for Israel no mention of the Palestinians having any capital whatsoever in east Jerusalem refugees right People have talked about okay. If all the Palestinian refugees can resettle inside of what is GONNA become Israel. They'll have to be a mix of some people being resettled but compensation for Otherwise there's this whole issue is kind of not really dealt with right up security. The occupation is made permanent under this plant. Basically Palestinians are crammed into ah a rump of what should be a Palestinian state and Israel's just permitted to stay there and occupy that land and it looks like this basically envisions an open air prison for Palestinians as part of this quote unquote Peace deal and so if you if you look at this and the borders in Palestinians lose much more your net territory than I think anybody envisioned under under plan and their contiguous state like a state that is viable because you know people can move back the president. I don't really see that you're on this. So if you're trying to engage seriously substantively this is not an in any way a a fair Right but it grows out of the process because trump didn't even talk to Palestinians right so it kind of interesting idea to make peace with the Palestinians without talking soon right it shows he just does not give a shit about them like his whole interest here is to just put another notch in his. Is Netanyahu gift bag To help Netanyahu with his politics and help himself trump with his politics. But it's it's almost a cop out for all of us to say A. Oh this is just You know jared Doing his second semester book report on the Middle East peace and and handing it in to professor Netanyahu at the end of the process after having be peer reviewed by right wing of APEC. 'cause that is kind of what it's it's about but I think beyond that it implicates all of us in American politics though like how did we get here. I mean how. How do we like? The Palestinians are human beings. Like how do we have so little fucking respect act for the Palestinian people that were literally having it be possible that the United States can sit there with the prime minister of Israel. By the way there are no Palestinians at this rollout Arab journalists there and talk about the future of their lives. As if it's just like some video game that we play in American politics Oh yeah every. The president is the Middle East peace plan. So here's ours right now. I would encourage people to match this against what John Kerry put out at the administration and you'll see just how far things have changed change in three years but I think hopefully you know as trump has woken up to a lot of long standing structural problems in how America approaches. It's politics or foreign policy. You know like either. We think the Palestinians are people deserve state and deserve to have their own rights and dignity. Or we don't I think we do. I think we should If we don't we should not bother putting out peace plans you know better for trump to have not put this out than to do. I agree I mean the the way to think about it is imagined reverse AB- trump does this with boss with no Israelis president. It's inconceivable that that would happen first of all it's probably worth noting that Benetton's called well trump a true and courageous friend of the state of Israel and said the peace plan proposal was a significant and historic milestone. They all like it It's also worth noting that being in Yahoo withdrew drew his request this week to have. The Knesset The parliament give him immunity from prosecution as he campaigns for this third election. BB was indicted back in November of last year for fraud and bribery. Generally being an asshole that last part is made up. But you know that's why he needs his of so much. I'm not sure it's entirely made them I A- and we should note like president under impeachment. WHO's clearly guilty and Israeli? Prime Minister is under indictment. You know They're looking to talk about something else. And here's what they're they're talking about and also for these really government to come out and say they're going to settlements in the West Bank within hours of the peace plan tells you everything when you need to know about whether this is really about getting two-state solution or not. I saw the Jordanian government. Come out and say this is dead on arrival Abbass tickets call so like again. Let's not let's it's find the right language to talk about this and any you know. New Story read refers to this as a peace plan and says on the one hand you know some people said it's great in some people said it's not known this is a bunch of bullshit you know and and it's meant to give them a two day news story and justify Israel's continued annexation of settlements. It's not about peace. Now it's a total misnomer. Okay let's turn to Iraq for a minute. So Ben we talk about on the show about issues and stories that makes us mad. And there's a lot of healthy venting I think but this this next issue I want to raise is one of the most deeply upsetting articles. I've read in a long time. It was this New Yorker piece by Ben Tob about the extradition of Iraqi refugee refugee named Omar Amine or the tradition case. It's still ongoing so the. US has accused this individual of being an isis commander and they claimed he murdered someone in Iraq but his defense his lawyers have made a very overwhelmingly convincing case. That amine was in Turkey at the time of this murderer that he couldn't have done it and that the evidence is made up nonsense by rivals levels in Iraq who hate his family The infuriating part the upsetting part is at the. US government is doing everything possible to avoid having to admit or even hear this as evidence in court they are complicit the State Department Doj and sending an innocent man with a family in the US. Back to Iraq where he will be tortured and executed undoubtedly And they are trying to do it to prove right. Trump's talking point that terrorist coming to America through the refugee process now. We haven't talked about refugee he policy for awhile now because there hasn't been an election trump scare old white people in Ohio. But it doesn't make any sense for a terrorist to come to the US through the refugee process. Refugee process entails tails extensive. Vetting in since terrorists are planning on you know putting down roots You could just get a tourist visa and do whatever heinous thing you want to do. And that's a lot easier of the process so The one way amine defense attorneys could definitively prove. His Innocence is to get his cellphone records when he was in Turkey to prove that he was there at the time this murder her and then so since I first read this piece there was a follow up New Yorker article where Turkcell which is a phone company in Turkey is offered to provide those records. Doj but the DOJ Jay is still urging this judge in California to move the case. quickly extradite Amine to Iraq before they get these records and again if that happens he will be tortured and he will be killed. So then I I know. The justice system is profoundly flawed Especially for people of Color in that in this country that secret but reading the story and knowing knowing that people at the highest levels of the State Department and Department of Justice are pushing this man to be extradited to his certain death like actually it rattled me Eh for after reading the piece in in like me. Deeply question My faith in America. Yeah I think that's fair. I think you put your finger on. What's so chilling about this to me right? Is that you know we often have this conversation about you. Know Trump would be far turn ISM right and and part of the challenge for us is that trump will say in even do crazy shit right but it seems like he's so crazy or incompetent. Ah or outside the mainstream that that you almost don't take it seriously right. You don't see it as having consequences beneath twitter or you seem I'm like signing the Muslim ban. It just seems crazy photo op. I will keep in mind. That they're very real people already on the other end of those actions right so you signed the Muslim and those are families and was immediately separated. Those are people who might have had reason to come. Your whose lives have been derailed may have had to come here for their safety and they've been harmed but here you're right. What you you see is again the longer trump is president right and I will tie this next election the more the? US government is adjusting itself to this new boss and and by the way like shame on the people who are going along with this. I mean you know to essentially be putting a man's life at risk because is you need to justify the racist fucking talking point of Donald Trump Jr.. You don't have to go to work that day at the State Department or the department just don't have to work uh-huh sympathy for people who are trying to stick it out for the national interest trying to stick it out because they care about this country but if you have to sit there in front of a judge and make an argument about about this guy who the evidence clearly shows is probably innocent. Did to try to extradite him as fast as possible so you can have some data point that just trump said and like you need to think hard about the choices you're making but the warning I think is at it shows it over time as long as trump is president. There'll be moving people a lot of those jobs or maybe if that person does leave that job they'll find someone who will do it you know and they will find someone who will do it and so we had to take very seriously that the the US government is already beginning to reflect. Some of them were extreme parts of trump's rhetoric. It's taken some time to get there if he gets four four more years. Imagine we're going to be in your seven. We're not going to be reading the story because it'll be so normal. bureaucracies can be cruel and evil and heartless is and this is an example. You you don't get to say you're doing your job here. Yeah let's talk about another a similar example. In my opinion I think another act of profound cruelty. which is the State Department? -partment is adopting rules to make it harder for pregnant for nationals to visit the United States. the White House calls this birth tourism because yes. I'm sure most women would would agree. That giving birth birth is like taking a fucking vacation but trump wants to prevent babies with foreign parents from being born in the US so they won't become US citizens. The policy itself is kind of dumb and wrong. Headed that it's likely to be ineffective because most tourist visas give you a ten year window to travel but it still means that these women will be harassed by random consular officers and embassies around the world. They could just be denied their trip. For no reason. It's also part of just clear opposition. This White House has to the Fourteenth Amendment and birthright citizenship. Generally which is why all of us are Americans but been like the total lack of empathy kills me having a baby is terrifying And the US has more advanced healthcare than most other countries. So there's a good chance that this policy could deny a mom entrance to the. US would be able to give birth safely here and healthy baby but who might have some serious problems somewhere abroad I. It is cruel evil in. That's the point again. Yeah and it just shows you how far reaching this agenda is to restrict immigration. This is kind of Stephen Miller thing like yeah. We're not content to just you know. Try to seal off the border and deport people like we're trying to stop all forms of immigration nation. Here and by the way way. Make no sense like this is not the way in which you would try to prevent somebody sneaking across the border to give birth birth in the US like like this is an effort to to just be as cruel and inconvenient and unpleasant as you can and due to to say like on both these stories one. If you stack this up like we forget this is how a lot of people interact with the US like Yup. Can I come here. Can I get a visa to go there. Can I be a tourist there in. There's so many different ways in which trump is making that unpleasant like this is turning people off from coming here and I've traveled to countries where people said to me. There have been a big drop in foreign students. When come the US because they just kind of see these various reports and even if they're not pregnant they you just see the United States being mean like you know what I don't want to go there? I'm going to go to China. And so I think there's a an intangible costs to like are standing in our connectivity the world old and circles back the first one the example we're setting I mean I saw some reporting on the Indian citizenship which we've talked about on the pod over the weekend can and people were still using kind of like the language because some people are saying like you know the United States really speak out against this law that restricts the capacity of Muslims to to emigrate which we set the example like mody copied our law And I think we're not again you finding the right language to realize that no. We're no longer the country. They used to criticize countries for doing things like this. We're now the country doing it. You know it's just infuriating. Okay we gotTA talk about John. Yes okay so John. Bolton as we've discussed in the show seems to believe that he only does Congress In the American people the truth he gets paid for it over the weekend. The New York The Times reported that John Bolton has written a book and submitted it to the White House for pre publication review This book apparently details trump's now well known scheme to hold up three hundred ninety one one million dollars worth of military assistance to Ukraine in exchange for the Ukrainians launching phony investigations into Joe Biden. The book apparently talks about how fficials like Mike Pompeo Mick Mulvaney. Bill Bar We're all aware of what was happening. and then according to a follow up piece in the Times today Tuesday Bolton says in the book that he he expressed concern to attorney general bar. That trump was granting personal favors to autocratic leaders in Turkey and China something I've talked times And trump was suggesting to these leaders that he could control investigations into Chinese and Turkish companies like Z.. T. E. Phone Technology Company and a Turkish bank called Hawk Bank so so the the peace talks about how trump has this bizarre love for authoritarian leaders. Something apparently the jumped out at Bolton to who can forget his infamous. Where's my favorite dictator line about presidency? Egypt who has proven to be far more repressive than Mubarak ever was. I think trump's lawyers claimed that they didn't know about these allegations in the book despite the having a copy of it since December so bent. You're the only person in this room that has written a book and submitted it a to a White House review can explain why that happens and what they're looking for and did anything surprise you in what we learned here. So so I submitted the book to classification review the NFC and that was in two thousand eighteen. So what they do is they read it and that they see as something that looks like it should be classified. They ask you to check it out or change. How you describe it right? And so it's only for classification only classification progresses and and that was my experience. There were no burden center politicized edits. It was suggested and frankly very little was suggested at all nothing about executive privilege or nothing about exactly well so Nothing about executive privilege. I mean there were there was questions about. Could anything be seen as being derived from classified document right I will. We'll say though that was in two eighteen and I knew the people that I submitted it to. Let's just put it that they had the NFC when I worked at the NFC. I'm not familiar with how that's changed in the last. You know two years really. My sense is somebody would know John. Both submitted a book for classification. Come on and that would be circulated around right then. The other thing I'd say here is First of all if John Bolton was so concerned about this behavior savior. Let's worth noting that he worked there for a pretty long time. For a trump official. Either he made it over a year so he could acquitted anytime. That's not what happened. Although at the end you know he had this fight about whether he's quitter fired. I also am amazed and you know about how it always comes out that like. There's this new revelation it's always confirmatory of everything everybody already knows right and another dwell on this but like it's worth noting that the basic story that trump it was withholding aid to pressure Ukraine. To axe like has just been confirmed about seventy times. Yeah there have been like seventy smoking guns and every time like the press acts like. It's the first time there's been a smoking or something or like this is the one that's really going to break the Republicans. I think this does matter more. Though and the reason he needs to testify because it's he's firsthand right he's the guy was literally as the title of his fucking books as in the room when it happens but to me the thing that should jump out to everybody nobody is this thing about Turkey and China like that to me is is my headline because already know what happened in Ukraine. That's very obvious. We've always thought that Ukraine is tip of an iceberg. That if trump is doing this if he's politicizing or trying to get personal gain from a farm in Ukraine you damn well know. He's trying trying to do that. With Saudi Arabia with China with Turkey where more likely is interest. Yes it may be political but potentially monetary right. And so what do we know. We know for instance from these kind of weird reports in certain books and secondhand to REX Tillerson like Giuliani. Was Lobbying for instance to try to help helps them. Turkish guy who had violated around sanctions will now we know that you know trump is promising that he can make investigations go away if they're really direct Turk right so those are two different pieces of information that we know that are not hard to connect you know and like we hear this tape of trump posting about how he can and essentially let a bunch of Gril for foreign nationals like affect our foreign policy be by giving trump a wishlist fucking fundraiser. Right right can you imagine the corruption. We're not seeing no into channel Adam Schiff for a moment here like this is why he must be removed from office as soon as possible. And actually actually don't believe that it's PM and hopefully get the election like every day that this guy is in office. He is selling out our foreign policy for God knows what interests you know in Ukraine. It's an investigation the Biden's with Turkey. Who knows what financial interest could be right? The Saudis I. I don't even WanNa see what they do in our election right because if we know. They're already hacking their phone of the richest guy in the world and they have trillions of dollars that they can throw around like what is coming in terms of Saudi interference in our election. Here so to me that that reference to the other corruption is what really jumped out to me to parts of the world is brought to you by lifelock. Twenty six million customers have their DNA information in databases is maintained by the four DNA testing companies but DNA has to companies may be vulnerable to data breaches as any other company and DNA. Information could be a tempting target for hackers who could sell this information on the dark web or be exposed to insurance providers or law enforcement agencies. 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That had video in it then included some code that allowed the Saudis to exfiltration data from his phone over the course of many months now coincidentally about a year ago. The national enquirer posted a story about as those having an affair with a woman in Los Angeles listed included text and photographs That led to Bezos. Having this investigation started about you know how this information got out which gets us to hear. It's not entirely clear even in the reporting whether the Saudis gave the inquirer this information or if it came from this woman's brother I mean that's sort of the the working theory who knows right now but the report says is the Saudis hacked pays us because he owns the Washington Post which had reported critically on Saudi Arabia and used to employ Jamalco who is a prominent Saudi critic until mob and Bin Salman had him murdered Ben. Everything with the story is confusing and everything is terrible. I mean you have the Saudis acting with impunity. I'd note to target an enemy of there's and trump's just keep that in back your head You have incredibly sophisticated spying tools for sale to the highest bidder. You have the fact that literally no one not the richest just man on earth is apparently safe from getting hacked by these kinds of companies and yet none of it seems like it's enough to stop the trump White House or the business community from doing in business with the Saudi government. Oh Yeah and by the way Jared Kushner is known to what's APP with Mohammed bin Salman all the time so God knows what they've done to his can you imagine how many videos M Yes essentially ever funny. What about all those US journalist funding profiles of him. Yes I wonder if any of them clicked on point is totally wild. That M yes himself. Did it like what insane thinking but also just like the the level of impunity. He feels like he feels like he can do anything you know. And that's what happens when you have the the US hug NBS after Jamal Khashoggi's chopped up right or throughout this whole administration has said he feels like he can get away with anything no Quinson. SPYWARE BEZOS is both a critic of trump and Jamal Khashoggi's boss right at the Washington Post at the time and so to me. I think it should send a message that. What if they're doing that to? Jeff bezos. What are they doing to like ordinary people in Saudi Arabia to other people that they want to threaten intimidate around the world right also again to return to like another argument? Adam Schiff me. There was really good. You know he said to the Republicans you know. Why do you think trump is going to not throw you under the bus like you know? Well I'd say that to anybody who's doing business with Saudi Arabia like would do you Jamie diamond. Think that you're you know he likes you so much personally that he's not gonNA pretend. Try to blackmail you or get leverage on you. I don't know why these people don't see that these characters the NBA's have one and only interest in what they're looking out for themselves right. And so I at some point we have to put some guard around this now. It's not going to happen with trump is president but like this. Saudi relationship is so dysfunctional that they just they feel they can do anything. Get Away with it and the sad truth is because with this president they can. Yeah and you know. There was a daily beast story about a twenty seven year old comedian former student at the University of San Diego who had a social media present so is pretty big who used to mock Bin Salman he says that a unidentified Saudi man accompanied his dad to the US to try. Are you bring him back to Saudi Arabia's into tried to kidnap him and I think we know what would have happened to this kid given what happened to Jamaica Shoghi so that's pretty terrifying that there's acting with impunity unity on American soil and it's ongoing it's ongoing and we saw the stuff with infiltrated twitter. You know with a couple of employees right and and like you know where do you start. I mean another another place to start is is. You don't have to cave to the sky. Time like so member we talked about net flicks when an awesome monagas Patriot did like a episode that put fonder criticized Saudi Arabia and NAPA. Let's put it. You know like people need to start collectively standing up to this kind of behavior because what we are doing is inadvertently rewarding it Arthur. Because we're embracing him like trump or his leaders or because we're unwilling to like set some boundaries and take a stand around certain values right and I again right right now the direction of how we're dealing with privacy and hacking is being set by the aggressors not by people seeking to protect ourselves and protect our privacy Z.. And that's something that has to change him so we're now several weeks From the strike on Puzzle Amani the former head of the I. R. G. You see could force in Iran we have learned that the ballistic missiles that were fired in response by the Iranians left thirty four U S servicemembers with concussions or traumatic brain injuries. Injuries trump. The other day at a press event dismiss these injuries as quote headaches. That are not very serious and I just wanted to bring this up because that is so profoundly wrong. The are quite serious injuries. The Pentagon estimates that three hundred thirty eight hundred thousand servicemembers have been deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan from two thousand to two thousand. Eighteen eighteen have suffered from traumatic brain injuries. Three hundred eighty three thousand these. TV is it can lead to higher rates of PTSD depression back pain suicide there. The signature nunes of our modern wars. And just they aren't visible doesn't mean they aren't serious and when lawmakers Dismiss these wounds. They can stigmatize them. That can make them worse. Veterans groups have called on trump to apologize but even sick events in Congress. Even Tom Cotton. Who is a veteran who should know better are defending his comments? Because they just don't care what he says is the Ben. This is just one of those times where the comments are so profoundly ignorant. It should be a bigger story and it should be an educational moment for the country really. But it's not getting discussed. I I think because of the fog of impeachment and just because he says idiotic stuff all the time and it's called traumatic brain injury for you know so I mean This is a very serious for people. And Look I. There's such common threads and I know having up so we're talking about trump up these. The things connect right because you talked about how the troubling story about the extradition case with the with involving Iraq. They basically basically are seeking to justify trump's talking point by changing reality. Yeah even though a man's life is at stake to fit that that's what this is. Yeah because trump came out in tweeted the night of that missile strike all is well and he said everybody's fine and so they didn't want to admit that there were any casualties. That did anybody was hurt whatsoever and these attacks and the press little had to drag this information out of right and so the reason trump is saying. It's just headaches. The reason he is seeking to downgrade this condition that has been suffered by many veterans is just to justify his own talking points in lies from a few days earlier right right and in so doing. He's disrespecting every person who's had this injury I mean. He's disrespecting everybody who has served. How would you feel if you were living? At home with chronic chronic headaches an inability to maybe hold down a job maybe your life is falling apart. Maybe marriage is falling apart. You know maybe you don't know if you can go on because because of these symptoms you've had TB and then you see the president sitting at. It's just headaches. How that would make you feel right? And I haven't done this. I think in a wildness podcast but but imagine. If Barack Obama had lied about there being no use service members injured in Iranian attack on the US military facility tried to cover up those injuries and then dismissed over thirty people having traumatic brain injuries. Some people having some headaches right and I do that. Not just to indulge in the hypocrisy to make the point that this wasn't a really big deal. There wasn't a lot of noise in the media media and Congress we are adjusting ourselves to trump. You know this is like Oh sure. Of course of course trump to that right and and that should be alarming coming to people that like something like this that is literally inconceivable that this would have happened under the previous administration is like. Oh Yeah. It's not a big story because of course trump put would would would spend this live out. Yeah I mean we should point out that the the military has come a long way when it comes to traumatic brain injuries or PTSD eh From World War One will not even Vietnam era. I mean back then it was who shell shock or you know as a battle for there's this moment where general. Patton infamously slaps a a soldier who is in the infirmary rather than getting on the fighting lines. And that's just that's not the appropriate way to treat these injuries. We have to you. Don't people need to rest than they need to feel like they should seek treatment and seek it out and want to get out and I feel stigmatized and if you hear about the Ti injuries like what literally is to the size and scale of the blast causes the brain to shake around in the head. I mean that just that that is not like what is supposed to happen. You know And and so this can it can lead to like pretty serious health effects. Yeah I mean. We're seeing football. For God's Yeah Yeah One more military soon as trump heavy episode. But that's okay so we talked couple times On the show about a retired Navy seal named Eddie Gallagher He was accused by his seal team teammates shooting at civilians of murdering Isis captive. Very awful stuff trump pardoned him And is reportedly planning to like Nikki McKee surrogate on his election reelection campaign on Monday gallagher posted the video on his facebook and instagram calling members of his former team cowards people who testified against him putting identifying information about them like their names duty status photos of them I'm actually surprised that the information isn't officially classified as secret regardless It's usually never disclosed by the military because it puts these guys at risk In this case I would say it risks from both terrorist groups that they're fighting abroad didn't Maga nuts back here so again like to our big picture comments. You're like this is what happens when you enable a guy like Eddie Gallagher clearly has some issues to operate with impunity. Operate outside the military justice system. And it's really dark stuff breath. I hope Fox News is proud of the role they played in this whole fair and Putting at risk a whole bunch of navy seals. Yeah Eddie Gallagher Stories. So amazing because you know. He's validating trump the behavior of a war criminal right. Who now shows that? He is so vindictive in so emboldened by you. You know Steve Doocy or whoever like at Fox that he's now taking aim at Navy seals. Who did the right thing you know like these are the people who took a risk has to do the right thing who understood that it was not in their own interest in the interest of the value say stood for and frankly their security to have war criminals in their midst I'm and report him up the chain and think of the message it sends to that whole community to the entire military and frankly kids across this country that the people who reported the wrongdoing are now being targeted by somebody who committed war-crimes. WHO's going to be out there with the president states right and it's been a trump heavy episode but I mean it's been very useful because all of these things fit together right? It's all about trump kind of validating validating the most negative behavior that the United States can indulge and creating impunity for people whether they're in the US or the people again be us who who are engaged in this kind of thuggish behavior and it it it really points to like the what's on the ballot in this election. It's upcoming is is like just. What kind of country are we? Because if we're the kind of country that's like yeah this is cool. Like Eddie Gallagher can kill a kid and shoot corpses and what have you and then get celebrated and then target the people who reported that misconduct if we're cool that as a country like that's something that we ought to alike digest and I I don't think we are and and but I think all these things add up to the basic choice at the longer trump is in office the more we you can see what his personality is doing to institutions like the US military State Department Justice Department and to Foreign Relations with countries like Saudi Arabia like Israel where he's also emboldening the worst elements in those governments Last trumpy thing one thing that makes me Very proud of this. podcast is the fact that we have been way way ahead of the rest of the pack in calling out secretary of state. Mike Pompeo for just being a terrible human being yeah. This was really early driven home. I think for everyone last week when he berated and NPR reporter named Mary Louise Kelley for asking him about the Ukraine scandal. in Iran His failure to defend our US ambassador in Ukraine from Rudy Giuliani smear campaign. God forbid she asked about the big news in the world pump HEO ended. The interview apparently asked Kelly to come back to his private office that recorder. He didn't stipulate it was off the record. She said she wouldn't have agreed if he'd had There he dressed her down yelled he dropped bombs he he said quote. Do you think Americans care about Ukraine. And then he literally summoned a blank map and asked her to find Ukraine on it. Now I don't know why these guys have blank blink maps just sitting around day like draw with crayons during meals. But I just can't think of anything more condescending than that She has a masters degree she's experienced reporter. He was Coke hoke brothers Suckling backbench Congressman until he was gifted this job. Pumpido later attacked Kelly through a press statement through the State Department's main office the State Department kicked a different NPR reporter off of POMPEII plane. I tripped Eastern Europe. Trump is talking about defunding the company the NPR like today at this press conference with Netanyahu trump joked about it and gave him an atom boy. So to your point I mean route starts at the top the other thing I just have to say I'm concerned about is like. NPR is the perfect entity to fight this with one arm tied behind their back like he is literally going after their funding and NPR's just like they're a little bow sides on their coverage is from all the way but now they're like they're so scrupulous they're so buttoned up I mean he pompeii allied and said that she the reporter. Kelly agreed not talk about Ukraine. She has emails proving that to be false but instead of just like tweeting them out punching back they like waited waited a couple of days and slipped into the Washington Post. I just worry for these folks you know. NPR's enormous Service for all of us. It's great news covered. They've great reporters but these bullies. He's like Mike. Pompeo may only dig in when they think you're weak and they have the upper hand yet when he clearly doesn't face kind of questioning you know and I hate to the I like the State Deparment Press Corps. But I've been shocked and watching a couple of press conferences. He gives he just. He's an Smarmy arrogant lying jerk mark essentially at an and they let him just perform. You know they don't really ask. Follow up sir. Like it's weird like how much he just by bullying bullying and bulldozing through a bunch of lies like they're not sure what to do with that target and it sounds like she actually was trying to call him out but it but clearly. In most of Mike Pompeo's interviews are probably like fawning Hughhewitt type. Yes literally kissing his ass by the way if you don't know he is don't worry about it but he's a conservative pundit. That's always on meet the press. His son works at the state. Yeah Yeah Yeah. So that's how I plot a couple of things one would mike. Mike pompeo have dragged reporter into his office and bullied them and dropped F. bombs on them and ask them to find Ukraine on a blank map. Probably not probably not right so number one. These people have no respect for women even though we're talking about one of smart reporters in Washington number two. Mike Pompeo the secretary of state he said like Americans don't even care about Ukraine. How do you think that sounds to the Ukrainians Ukrainians have have already dealt with the fact that I mean like in this whole drama can we award Ukrainians? The people who've been screwed the most poor fucking Zilenski like a comedian media. well-meaning guy gets elected president. I is getting Shaked down by Lev Parnasse and Rudy Giuliani and the crew. Then he's got trump saying do me do you favor. Then he's got. Mike Pompeo saying like no Americans even care about Ukraine when Ukraine has been invaded by their neighbor Russia and is dependent on the United States. I mean does the uis disrespect for everybody in their orbit. You know and I think the press has to decide. They kicked Her off the plane. Everybody should get off that plane. Collective action there's gotTa be some collective action here and your collective actions tweeting about how Great Mary Louise Kelley is like. I think there needs to be some effort to say like. We're not GonNa let these people just rewrite the rules like this and treat us like garbage and get away with lies and then laugh about it you know at the press conference with with Netanyahu is trump. Did today yeah. I don't know the right answer. There's got to be an actual cost even seen that selected there are like we're crossing boundaries. Here we're stuff is happening on a regular basis in this country. That actually doesn't happen in like even our country you know like like often. The joke is like we're turning into ex- ex- place like I. I've never really heard of some of this stuff happening in in in some of these other quasi authoritarian places. Mike pompeo terrible. I hope these shows will start on just like You know in your that's when you you start tweeting and I'm so mad. I'm like watch cartoons like I do with my kids. Okay a couple of quick policy update. So let's talk about Burma I We've talked about the government sanctioned genocide of the Ruhanga people in Burma several times in the show since 2017 the government is driven more than seven hundred thousand Rohana out of the country mostly into Bangladesh. On the way there were executions rape as a tool of war true crimes against humanity like horrific terrific stuff The sort of good news is the United Nations agreed last week. The International Court of Justice ordered Burma to protect the row Hinga and to report report back to them regularly on how they're going to do so This case was brought before the UN by Gambia on behalf of the Oh. I see the Organization for Islamic cooperation. The ruling was decided by a fifteen member panel. One of whom was picked in appointed by the Burmese government and even that dude sided against them. So that's how bad this was now. Unfortunately fortunately there's no real mechanism to enforce this ruling here but hopefully it will bring more international attention to this horror in. Maybe if they continue with this kind of behavior lead to UN Security Council action. No I think it's a positive development and look one way to think about this. Is the tragedy one of the many tragedies of what's happening is that in Burma. People don't care that much basically like there's actually fairly broad support for what the government has done in ethnically. We cleansing I WANNA say that's everybody because I know some very courageous people who were activists speaking of this but when you had that situation the pressure has come from somewhere else us right. So unless there's some international external accountability forcing the Burmese government have to do this reporting To have to be mindful that they may be held accountable. Like you're not gonNA be able to protect this at all and frankly it plans a seat in the heads of hopefully officials inside of Burma Myanmar. That there's future accountability could come. There's further international justice that could come their further sanctions. Could come so this kind of thing I think is a is a useful tool if combined bind with the sense that like if you guys on top of this and aren't being responsive to this there's more where this is coming from the background on what happened there Ben wrote a great very long thorough thoughtful piece in the Atlantic about Several years of policy including during the Obama to check it out another update so we talked a couple times also about the Indian government and how they invaded and occupied disputed Kashmir region And they revoked their semi-autonomous status governing them now. This happened about six months ago. And since then the Indian government has basically cut off all communication the region shut down the Internet the cut landlines that cut sell connections on Sunday. the Indian government unblocked some some websites they started allowing like very very slow cell service and to g But I I I read this. I thought I don't think this is good news. I mean obviously if someone needs Internet like it's good for them to have it back but what it tells me is that these tactics are seen as useful and effective and they're going to be used again and again again and again to take these kinds of action. Yeah it's interesting you've noticed in a few different places recently. This tactic of cutting off the Internet for a period of time and restoring some form of order And then so incrementally it comes back on so you saw the Iranians this in response to some of the protests. Clearly clearly part of the playbook You know that that some of these strongman authoritarian types are gonna use is blackout disconnect. People cut them off while that is happening. That's when you're rounding people up right that's when you're signing a much people that's written intimidating a bunch of people and then incrementally turning back on maybe maybe on its speeds. It can support certain type of activity and mobilization or encryption. We're uploading video swing videos. What is exactly so uh-huh we have to learn from this stuff and I think it'll be important for journalists to try to be able to piece together the story of just what has happened in Kashmir over these last several weeks both so we can understand the scale of their oppression that has taken place where are certain people like you know where the leaders of different types of political opposition civil society? Independent journalists are are those people K. or they not But also what is the playbook that they've used there. Because I think you know it's clear that there's learning that goes on between China and India Iran and yet you know frankly probably some things that the. US IS TERI group. Tax Trading Russia Russia was at the forefront of some of these tactics. Yeah terrible Okay we're happy. Yes so for some reason. A video was going around this week and last week of Russian Russian President Vladimir Putin being given a puppy by the president of Turkmenistan. This happened in two thousand seventeen The video is terrible and hard to watch because the leader leader of Turkmenistan whose name I'm not even GonNa try to say he's holding this poor poppy up at the scruff of the neck institute geared awful way that Putin like freaks out and jumps out of his chair in rescues the poor fourth thing. Because it's a really adorable puppy now. Putin is a horrible human being He kills this at NC kills journalists invades countries. But he's a big dog and animal lover. I guess he had several dogs gets gifted them all the time by foreign leaders. Because they know he's a soft spot. He has a dog that he wants brought to a meeting with them. Not Scared out of her mostly he also likes getting photographed with tigers and bears. Dolphins you name it it probably militarize all of them. The government doesn't always follow his lead when it comes to taking care of animals. They are ruthless. Two strays as especially around events like the Olympics but that segment was called the more. You know about Putin. Well I mean the the picture of the Guy Holding the dog by the scruffy neck was One of the more awkward gift exchanges and You Know Putin and I just gotTA Say Look I. 'cause I'm in this office. He doesn't seem like a doodle Guy. No and I mean you want the dog that could kill a you know somebody broke in your house kill a smaller animal. Yeah or per person potentially It is interesting how how Putin doesn't have like a doesn't use personality like so it's kind of interesting to think about being a propagandist You know in in the in the Kremlin it must become inching job right. 'CAUSE 'cause couldn't take care of the like you know strong man. Yeah Yeah you know curious. Y- you know thing but like how do you fill in personality around that right and so you've got like the puppy Thing at time to bring back to two thousand seventeen clips. You've got the shirtless horseback thing. One where he's in a glider migrating with a bunch of birds. Yes that's an outstanding good at one. Then you've got these like occasional hockey games. He plays where they let them score. We're lays down so I will say like does does point up like Unfortunately what this tells me Tommy. Is that October. Surprise is going to be trump with puppies. And they'll they'll probably be like that you know Dan's Guillano Hack at the White House tweeting out like some. They'll probably put up some leader to give a puppy with the scruff of the neck. Because if it started with Putin you can can be sure ended up with trump. He's GonNa Emulate Ben. This episode is going to go down in the annals of podcast history. Thank you plant. I didn't make it at the very beginning. It was tough. 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And now we're GonNa talk about scary viruses so there is is this corona virus that we're hearing so much about right now. It's it started in the Wuhan City of China And seems to be spreading. Can you explain just the basics like what is corona virus in wise is threatening outbreak. Yeah so so. Let's start from the basics viruses. Are these you know it's interesting scientific debate. We debate on whether or not they're alive or not but basically what they are is just a little bit cellular machinery and some either DNA or NA. which is the operative version of DNA and They make us sick and they they propagate the interesting thing about about corona virus. Is that under normal circumstances humans would never be exposed to these kinds of viruses. They they tend to be Common in wildlife in bats in particular but in in two circumstances we're starting to see more and more of these outbreaks. One of them is in such situations where you have a lot of human contact with wildlife in situations like the wet market in Wuhan where where. It's likely that some animal that was was was being sold at this market. Had come in contact with a bat that was infected itself got infected and then pass it it onto humans and because our immune systems aren't ready for them because we don't usually come in contact with bats it starts to spread like wildfire the other though and this just sort of unsaid topic is these kinds of outbreaks are becoming more common because of climate change which is driving wildlife more and more into the habitats of humans and so the interactions that we're having with wildlife wildlife are a lot more common which increases the likelihood of these kinds outbreak so our immune systems are not ready for them and Once they hit us they spread like wildfire and this particular corona virus We're just starting to understand it but of course there is no vaccine. There is no medication because It's not something humans I've ever seen before as as far as we know L. and It's starting to spread out of John It's it's Infected people in about fifteen different countries. it's looking like it's it's relatively contagious and we don't know as much about the mechanisms of spread but It's it's it's pretty quickly. We have over four thousand cases now and over one hundred deaths. Jesus so One one more questions or the the the media narrative around it before we get to the specific so I feel like you often see alarming news reports about some new and scary sounding disease and then you know some smart doctor remind you that way more. People are likely to be killed by the flu. Do you feel like the coverage of the Krahn virus is appropriate. Free It. I mean how are you feeling about the way being treated well You know as somebody who's worked in PR the things get coverage are the things that are new and You you'll give that this is new and it is spreading fast. I do think it warrants the kind of coverage but again the probability of of dying of from Corona virus is far lower than the number of people we know will die of the flu particularly bad flu season And so you know on the one hand you look at this and say wow this is an epidemic and all of a sudden people are Are Wearing in face Max and airports and and and that's funding to do but sometimes the very same people who are Are So worried about corona virus. Having gotten their flu vaccine And it's just a typically far more likely that you're going to get the flu A and B that the the flu could kill you or kill somebody that you love because you inadvertently pass it on And so we can't forget that even though this is new serious the problems that are more endemic and don't get the kind of coverage That this corona vibes getting are still out there and they're still dangerous and we do have the means to protect ourselves and so if you're looking for something the thing you can do to keep yourself healthy in the context of virus go get a flu. Shot okay good. I did that okay. So you know this emerged out of China in theory you know. This is an autocratic state. You would think they could prevent me from traveling. Quarantine individuals in ways that I don't think you would see in a democracy and just control. The population appellation. Generally but you know you said to me before that. There's a tradeoff there. Because people don't trust the government he talked about the need for government trust and why that might play a role in this thing spreading absolutely so you know the operating Credo of public health is is an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure If if you have a new outbreak of any disease The thing that the public health apparatus the government apparatus ought to be able to do is identify new cases Get them treated and then quarantine them and then trace the contact of all of those people And make sure that their quarantine so that they're not inadvertently spreading the disease as we do this all the time with all kinds of outbreaks of all kinds of things that requires a couple of things that a you have consistent flow of information and people are willing to tell the government the truth about what what's happening and what's going on and be that the government has the capacity then to follow that information downward and then see that government is exchanging information with partner governments. So that they're aware and engaged on the problem and ready to pounce if they need to the challenge that we have with this outbreak. Right now is a People don't necessarily trust their government because they've seen their government do terrible things to other people and so when when you require the free flow of information you may not be willing to to give it to folks and then be We're in a situation where the Chinese government hasn't actually built Out primary care. It's built a lot of hospitals those things that are glitzy Primary Care is less glitzy and the problem is that when people think they're sick in the context of an outbreak take they just go line up and try and get cared hospital. Which of course gets overwhelmed? But what are you. Have you have a bunch of sick people who are now lined up in one place which is probably the worst possible thing you could do for actually exchanging the disease And mitigating the spread. And all of this is because the government is is more worried about saving face ace than it is about actually problem and you know we've seen this kind of behavior in in in in Chinese government In a number of places but this is one of them so you you know the government can build a thousand bed hospital in six days But they couldn't build the basic apparatus to be able to contact trace In mitigate a disease early and then now we're seeing this quarantining printing of of whole cities which doesn't quite help? Because you know when you in the city people are GonNa get out and you're allowing all of the disease spread to move within that city rather but then having the precision ability to contact trace and mitigate spread at the micro level which of course is how a virus spreads And so all of this is really detrimental to WHO The spread of an outbreak. Like this and it just shows us why Being able to have a government that that prides itself on the free flow of information on the investment asman an infrastructure. That's not a glitzy but important Matter so much yes so China dealt with a similar epidemic in two thousand and two thousand three when when SARS Do you think that they learned lessons. Have they taken steps to improve their response. I know it was a pretty brutal response by the Chinese government. Then it was I mean in I think to their credit this response has been somewhat more effective. But there's still a long way to go The other you know the luck of the draw and this one is it. Looks like this is about as as Infective and contagious as SARS was but it seems like it's a lot less deadly so epidemiologist talk about this. A number called the are not factor and are not just tells you on average how many people will get a disease from somebody who's already carrying the disease and The are not for SARS and for this disease. Looked like it's somewhere more between two and five by comparison the value for For measles which is one of the most contagious viruses. We have is is is twelve between twelve in sixteen So it's less contagious. And the mortality rate for SARS was like ten percent so one in ten people who got it passed away from it whereas for this. It's looking looking like it somewhere between three and five percent so It's not as bad as SARS was But it it because of the the way it spread and because of how quickly it's built nope it's looking like it might be a bigger. FEMA so though potentially less deadly yeah so there are a bunch of global health emergencies. During the Obama Administration. There was bird flu and then and you know about Ebola was I think. Probably the most well known one I think that the administration at the time learned a lot from the response to the Ebola outbreak. But I'm I'm worried that trump rolled back or try to roll back a lot of that work so for example his first budget called for seventeen percent cut in the CDC budget. I believe he signed a bill into law that cut seven hundred fifty million billion from the prevent in Public Health Fund. How worried are you about our preparedness right now? I'll be honest So our public health infrastructure. The structure is strong and I think that's really important. I do think however that these kinds of cuts Take us down a slippery slope slope. That could be very dangerous and we don't ever really know how much we need our public health infrastructure until it's too late the hard part about being a and I was. I was a health commissioner Mr for the city of Detroit and the hard part about public health is that you wanted to be ready in the moment. You don't think you're going to need it right. Nobody's ever planning for the next outbreak. you have the the benefit of of of of not worrying about it happening until of course it happens and then you figure out that those people those those jobs those That infrastructure that you cut were mission critical goal for justice kind of thing And so you know going out and and cutting public health budgets. 'cause they're not glitzy. That's the kind of thing that they do in China right. It's not the kind of thing That we do in the United States because in this society we've made a decision That we are. We are invested in our government functioning effectively. Not just looking like it functions effectively So I I worry that you know maybe not this epidemic But potentially one down the line over time. Those consistent cuts to to public health budgets. It's they they take a toll and we don't know When we're going to have the next Ebola outbreak and we don't know what the next outbreak is coming? But we do know that these are becoming more and and more likely given the impact of climate change and we do know that they're becoming more and more global so something happening In Sub Saharan Africa or happening In in in in in East Asia that becomes an American problem quickly simply because of the nature of globalization and so we have to be more ready not less ready Than than we have been in the past and and we've got to be building our public health infrastructure and capacity and the last point. I'll make something that I think you touched on so well in in in this podcast Is that you know if we want to continue due to be leaders in the world then we have to be leaders in the world and that means that oftentimes we're brought in to solve problems even beyond our borders. Unfortunately you know we. We've you've seen this sort of American adventurism when it comes to Potentially picking picking wars in in in in in places like Iran whereas when we actually can do the world a public good benefit by investing in Public Health Response people like Donald Trump want cuddles budgets. And so we're not investing in the right places and we can do a lot better agreed You mentioned at the top that global warming is exacerbating the problem leading to more of these types of Outbreaks can you elaborate on that a little bit sure So you know. Think a little bit about the The wildfires in Australia What's happened? Is that a lot of wildlife escaping these wildfires has come in contact act with with with people in ways that traditionally we don't see very often. We know that animals carry diseases just like humans carry diseases and they carry different diseases and most of the time Their diseases can affect US vice versa. But there are always some that can think about this. The bird flu or swine flu. Those are diseases that are endemic common in in In animals that can jump over and affect humans and sometimes those diseases are even worse than humans than they are in animals And so as we're getting more intermixing intermixing between Between Wildlife and people because of the consequences of climate change Just like wildfires. We saw in Australia The probability that one of those viruses hops over and is extremely serious extremely deadly and extremely contagious. Inhumanity is just higher. And so we've we've got to be on alert Around what the consequences that are and at the same time of course Be Working to save our globe by addressing climate change in the first place license so We forget sometimes that these issues are are so related but You know any time that you have a circumstance where We're not living as we've lived lived in the past. Because of the changing climate and the changing globe That's a risk factor for people. So if you were coordinating the response right now sitting in the situation room. What would can you be telling the administration to do? Yeah I'd I'd be doing a couple of things I think number one. We have a pretty incredible United States Public Health Service risk And I would be Deploying that public health service abroad in in in Wuhan certainly Working with the local officials there our To be able to increase their capacity for contract tracing because the best thing we can do is limit the contagion added source which right now? Of course the epicenter is is in one and The second thing I'd be doing is is just like the Like just like the the administration and local governments are doing right now which is is testing people coming from from the The affected parts of the world third. I would be working with With actually manufacturers to start working on a vaccine that we you know it's called crashing But they crashed into into into service Getting it out there To get folks acclimated who may have been exposed first and then constantly working on The antiretroviral the anti viral research that we need to be able to Treat this this This disease he's also We need to be able to invest in medical services. They're often times I think We forget that you know disease anywhere are is increasing. The risk of disease everywhere and And Right now one of the big challenges that they have in China is that there's not a strong Primary Care Infrastructure structure and so making. Sure that folks out there you know because because we care about our humanitarian ends because folks our our equals inhumanity and And we want to support them is making sure that we Are Moving medical infrastructure out there to be able to take care of people and and support them to heal right now. There is no treatment for the virus itself off. But you know if you can support somebody with good medical care. The probability of survival is a lot higher And so I think we have a responsibility for that but I would I would say. Let's let's tackle it at the source. Let's make sure we have both the vaccine and a medication. let's Increase our capacity providing providing healthcare Abroad and let's make sure that We are. We're testing anybody. Who's WHO's WHO's coming into our Our country from the affected area. Who may have any of these symptoms and signs and potentially Porn teaching them for for some time To make sure that they're they're not they're not spreading it On the home front good policy advice Last question for you so you mentioned that people who are worried you get a flu shot. Is there anything else you you would suggest jests that people do like I imagine there's some people right now who are thinking. Oh I don't WANNA fly. I don't want to go to credit places Are they overreacting. Like how do you think about this at the moment. Well you know I I think In the context of the kind of news that we're seeing it's alarming and you know people are are justified to be worried I would say that the number of cases in the United States has been very very low I think officials are doing a great job Making sure that That person to person spread in the United State is exceedingly limited But I would certainly say anybody who has visited the affected area In Wuhan That you know they keep keep themselves away from other people that They check you. And if they have any signs of viral illness which you know are sniffles or or a fever or or body pain And I would say that you know as as the CDC's just recommended Avoid avoid flying to to the affected area right now but for most of us are the high high probability is that we're not going to be affected by this Thankfully because we have a strong public health infrastructure in this country and we've got to keep it strong but but it is alarming and You know whenever you hear about a contagion like this it. It's it's alarming and people are right to be a bit worried and if you WANNA protect themselves by making sure that you know doing the basic things you protect yourself to protect yourself from the cold or flu in the first place making sure that you're using his hand sanitizer coughing or sneezing into your into your elbow In you know potentially wearing a face mask if you're feeling any symptoms or or or you're worried about getting sick. Those are all perfectly justifiable things to do. And even if they're not going to protect you from Corona virus they will protect you from the cold or flu which is a good thing anyway agreed. Great advice of dual. Thank you so much for walking me through this freaked out. By the way I should say American dissect it goes through a whole host of medical issues to strip out the hysteria that you sometimes see in the media and talk about the thoughtful way so everyone should check on the show. It's fantastic and great talking to you. Tommy thank you. Thank you for covering this and things always for a great show. Positive world is a product of crooked media senior producer. Is Michael Martinez our assistant producers Jordan. Waller it's mixed and edited by Chris. Basil Kyle Seguin is our sound engineer. Thanks for digital team allied Jacobin Normal Conan in my location filming. Share these interviews on video each week

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War with Iran w/ Pete Quinones

Part of the Problem

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War with Iran w/ Pete Quinones

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Autos Raider what I did I get them all in there that I miss any just my dad's like real name so okay. Well whatever you know. It's close enough. I'll get a log store. He'll he'll have a new name by the by the next time we have him on the show. What's in a name? That's that's right rose by any other name smell just as sweet. How are you brother? What's GonNa not much? Welcome back to New York City. You just got in today right well And you're gonNA stay through the Soho form debate on Monday. which can be a real fun one? Yeah yeah that's we're looking forward to that guys if view if you WANNA come hang out with us on Monday Go to the Soho Forum Dot Org get all the info that you need for the the next debate coming up so me and you both are in the were in the same hilarious situation. I listened to your latest podcast Earlier today with and you had of course the Great Scott Horton on and I did my last podcast yesterday and both of us recorded right before the huge news happens. So we put out these these episodes and by the next day if anyone's listening to it but where. Where's the big story? Where is the the big story so you know anyway? That happens sometimes. Times in these in the game that we're in it's unfortunate when it lines up like that. How about after we stopped recording? I mean it was like the same The same thing for me like is literally got a I got on my way home and all the sudden I start. My phone starts blowing up with all the text messages news. Alerts all the shit. And you're like Oh okay so something big happened. Something very big and very dangerous in the conflict with Iran and Iraq back and Hezbollah and Shiites of all flavors the Sunnis seemed to be somewhat on the back burner on this one. They're probably happy about it. Oh Yeah I'm sure so we're back to you never can tell it's like In the last fifteen years America has fought on the side of the Sunnis on the side of the Shiites. Both bowl times. We've helped out. We've we've basically been over there murdering people and handing gifts to our our supposed enemies so it's like gifts to Isis. Murdering soon is in in Syria slaughtering Sunnis and Shiites alike in in Iraq but then handing the country over to them giving around more influence anyway Of course since two thousand seven something in in that area and there was the big redirect. We've really been trying to diminish Shiite power in the region of course then the Sunni radicals who we were funding nding decided to storm Iraq start. Killing journalists. Obama did go back into Iraq to fight on behalf of the Shiites whose influence we're trying to diminish the region and But don't worry guys now. Were back to fighting Shiites in Iraq. Of course this whole thing started because we overthrew overthrew the Sunni government in Iraq. So this is it's reached levels of cluster. Fuck that you couldn't even put into a dystopia novel. They would be like. This is just getting too ridiculous at this point. Like no one's GonNa be able to follow what's going on here so that's where we are of course if you guys don't know right now it was And I know I'm GonNa fuck up the name. Sola Mani Mani Sulejmani. They um they said that it would be. I heard one person say that it would be the equivalent Villanova like killing. David portray ass- in two thousand seventeen thousand eight right and I think Daniel McAdams said today it would. It's really would be the equivalent of killing Mike Pence it's Interesting so this was like a serious high level guy who had Closer in something like this was a very high level guy who who at least it seems like there's points where he had claimed he was basically running the show of the of the Iranian military ahead of their Paramilitary group and a big deal. And this is look as you said with your example of whether it's portrayals are Mike Pence. Let's just safe to say this would be considered an act of war if it had been done to America and so now we we've done this to Iran. It was not. It was pretty much. Come out at this point that this was a targeted strike. This was intentional. And this is a dangerous game to say the least and it's the most impeachable thing he's done and he did this by. Yeah so if people want to talk about a quid pro quo any. This is something I mean. This is Obama level stuff. This is Obama with his kill list with his drones and Killing American citizens. I mean this I. I almost think that this is worse than Obama. Killing American citizens because the government's been killing American citizens forever. But I mean you're taking out somebody who's high level you know and he's not the only important in one who was taken out. I mean they took out somebody else. Who could actually be worse? Yeah he was one of the militia leaders in Iraq one of the Shiite militia militia leaders. Who We've been fighting alongside since Obama went back in calls Iraq war three which was against Isis? and Oh yeah it's it's This is look the situation in Iraq has been devolving from the you know like Iraq kind of over the last You know what is it now. Eighteen years or so sixteen years has had points of relative order. You know judging grading off in Iraq the the last twenty years curve relative order and then really descended into chaos and it seems to be on the descent already. In the last couple months there's been huge protests a lot of violence silence This is just going to be a nightmare and there's already The you know. The the trump administration has been critical of the Iraqi Shiite government Vermont for not defending The America enough and now that we're we've really pissed off the Shiites in that country. And you just think it through if all these years later I mean we. It's two thousand twenty now. We went in two thousand and three. If you if we don't even have have the Shiites on our side at this point what the hell are we doing there. We fought this whole war. Lost all these lives killed. All these innocent people killed some bad people to all to give the government to the Shiites and and now we've completely alienated them. So it's it's it's just such a mess. Yes and it's so obvious that this this whole thing has been a disaster but this is the situation as I see it and I've I've been tweeting up a storm today arguing doing about this stuff and it's really it's really depressing. Libertarians that are like championing this libertarians. Right wingers the people who I thought were getting in a little bit better about seeing through this bullshit and I'll tell you and I saw someone tweeted at me something to this effect but it's like you know as as crazy as as the left wing in this country has gotten when you see these right wingers after everything we've been through for the last almost twenty twenty years and they're just so quick to Jump Right back on the bandwagon for what would be. Let's let's look it's not a foregone conclusion that we're going to war with ran at all. The likelihood is increased from like yesterday but the idea a war with Iran would be more deadly more costly than Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Pretty much every top military expert would agree with that. And that's the reason season by the way that we haven't had this war already if we could do this thing like Qaddafi believe me around would've been gone a long time ago. And they're this quick this quick just to jump on board. It's like well. They came at our embassy. So we're fucking that's it we're we're we're going for. As Peter. Van Buren pointed out. They burleigh made it past. There's like four levels that you have to get past and they barely made it past the first the whole thing about clearing out oh essential oh personnel was cleared out the only people that are left are marines. All that is-is precaution. There was no threat to the embassy. Nobody at all I mean. I've seen video footage as oh look. They're scrambling in the Amazon. I don't even know that that's from today or yesterday. Yeah no one. No one has learned. It's just wait and get a shred of evidence before they just shouldn't say no one has learned a lot of people have but it's disappointing. How many people and I will tell you I don't care I don't care what left-winger you're talking about? I don't care if they're arguing. That some fucking serial rapist should be able to go to jail and go. Hey I feel like a woman now and get transferred to a women's prison or whatever crazy new argument they have this week. If you're a right-winger right winger who who is advocating with Iran right now. You're crazier than them. Your Lid you are. Actually you've outdone the left in crazy town. If you're you're actually going along with with the idea of another one of these wars and I'm arguing with these people and one of the the you know the cases that people you know. Are they harp on these things so the fucking NPC regime talking points. Just come out of their mouths so number one one is that Iran is the aggressor and the idea that anyone would think in the US US around conflict that there's any argument who the aggressor as and of course. I'm sure we talked about this before on the show. I know you've talked about this before on your the show but just to run down the greatest hits and this is what I said in one of my tweets as well. Let's just say Iran. You know had done it to us. Let's say in nineteen fifty. Three Iran overthrew the elected elected leader in America. Let's let's just say that's our history. Dwight Eisenhower was overthrown by the by fucking most a day or something like that and they came in here over through our leader. Our leader then Funded both sides of a war where hundreds of thousands of people die in our our country. Like you know somebody you know your uncle your father somebody you know with died because some fucking foreign power was funding both sides of the war they then put crippling sanctions on your country country for decades then they invaded Canada and Mexico and then started lying saying that we had weapons that we didn't have for decades and decades telling the world that we were developing weapons that we weren't which was the pretense for invading Canada. Would that be an active aggression. Like would you. Would you sit there and go like. Oh and then maybe we're Some groups that were associated with US had killed a few people from this invading country in Canada while they were invading leading the country. And you'd be like well. They're the aggressors. Or that's that's the situation. I had somebody on twitter today. Say because you bring up the nineteen fifty-three coup and he's like like well. That was sixty seven years ago. Take that up with Mike and my immediate response was well. Nine eleven was nineteen years ago. Back that up would Osama. Yeah Yeah. That's right right. What are you're supposed to forget about? I mean if the blowback continues I mean this is all about nine hundred seventy nine and what happened in nineteen seventy. Why did they storm the embassy of because they were lunatics? No because they were under they were under oppression from a foreign power for what twenty twenty year over twenty the years at that point. Yeah it's like you. You might do the same thing too. I mean you put. They installed their puppet. He's now the oil is going wherever the United States and England says has it wants to go. I mean come on yeah I mean and Scott Horton said it like this one's which I thought was an interesting way to put it especially for guys you know around our age but he goes so that's What was the matter met from fifty? Three to seventy nine is twenty six years so twenty six years ago today. Bill Clinton was president. Now I mean that's not ancient history. It might be to some of the twenty year olds who listen to the show or something like that. But if you're H I mean Bill Clinton was like that's if Bill Clinton didn't something happened at that time in America it's not like we're just over it by the way to your point of nine eleven. This is one president removed. There's just a few years before nine. Eleven you say nineteen years ago. I twenty only six years ago. It's not that far of a distance. So do you think in nineteen seventy nine. When they had that revolution they kind of remembered what happened in fifty three? I'm still fucking pin. It was twenty seven years. agom still fucking pissed about Waco. Oh Yeah Yeah and Twenty eight years ago was Ruby Ridge. I mean these are things that I bring up all the time and should be brought up all the time. This is not ancient history. If someone's Oh well you know really. You shouldn't bring that up and everything it's like well don't complain when the Iranians are talking talking about what what they did. What most of that and of course if you and the other thing is that you don't even have to go back that law? It's not like nothing since then. It happened it probably wouldn't be such a tense situation if nothing nothing had happened since one thousand nine hundred eighty three but look at what these sanctions have been doing to Iran just over the last decade over the last twenty years. I mean imagine you know like a imagine someone on poorer than the far far more than the poorest person you know. And they're being held there by a foreign power. Yeah of course this is going to build up some resentment so the situation situation To me is pretty clear. America's the aggressor This is C. A.. Ran For whatever reason whether it's you know just lining the pockets of the military industrial Israel complex whether it's about the petrodollar whether it's about Israel Saudi Arabia I to be honest. Think it's a mix of all of those things but they see the Iran is a threat to the American empire and this has been true for for a long time and the you know because Israel tell them a threat back to the empire is that Israel is the one who if you remember Iran Contra in the eighty S it was sell selling weapons is and like you know in that whole thing of Iran and weapons. They were giving funneled through Israel right so it's not like Iran you know in my lifetime. Iran in Israel Israel work together and then Gareth Porter says it was in the early nineties when people really started speaking out against the treatment of people in the Gaza the Palestinians. That's when they went. We need we need an enemy. We need something to distract from this. Yeah and they chosen right and it's it has been somewhat effective now. I'd be there. They're five years away from a nuclear weapon. Well that's right five years twenty years ago so they've thirty several. I saw a headline from Nineteen eighty-four. Wow so that's yeah no. It started early. 'cause I said one time when I had Scott on the show. Yeah where I was like. You know Israel's been saying since the nineties there are few years away and he goes eighties. I was like Oh actually. I didn't know that. But that's that maybe that's my age. I don't remember the ship in the eighties. But so for and just like with and this is one of the easy ways to smell bullshit with with so many of these. These war hawk. War Hawks propaganda is like so like Syria. For example where it's like okay. Well we need to go in. You know you fine fine. I mean. We find out from people like Wesley. Clark that this was a plan right after nine. Eleven to topple the government in Syria. But then all the sudden you know in two thousand twelve or whatever it's well acids killing his own people so we need to go into Syria and then that doesn't work so it's like well. There's Isis so we need to go into Syria and that doesn't work so it's like well. He's chemical weapons so we need to go into Syria and then it's like well. The Kurds are going to be slaughtered so we need to go into Syria and that well Russia's there so we need and it's always a new excuse but for the same more that they wanted all along long and with the ran the original excuse was went like this. This one held for a very long time. Okay what they said was and this was the argument meant that Iran is developing nuclear weapons. And this isn't like other countries that have nuclear weapons because because you see like Pakistan yes that's right. It does nothing. No that Pakistan has nuclear weapons and and and by the way I remember when that first came out when India and Pakistan had nuclear the weapons. Everyone was like well. This is a religious war. So they're gonNA use them. Of course none of this came to fruition but maybe nuclear weapons don't exist. Oh well that is. I've I've been presented with that argument but I heard but the argument from the neo cons was a that if Iran gets nuclear weapons. This country is such the theocracy. They're so bad shit crazy that they don't work like you and me and the rest of people who have self interest and are interested in self-preservation if they get this nuclear weapon they will use it and they've said over and over again that the wipe Israel off the face of the planet so they get they get nuclear weapons. Israel's nuked the whole fucking world is going down in a nuclear war and we can't possibly let them have nuclear weapons. This was always the original talking point and some of them will still throw it out every now now and then although that has retreated into the background. Because it's just you know they would always give these timelines. It was three years away. It was five years away. It's twelve months away. Oh Oh my God. It's only a couple of weeks and then you know it never comes true. It never comes true. I think it was in twenty. Twelve that Netanyahu humiliated himself with the DAFFY RAFFIA DOWN The road runner Daffy Duck speak to the other side and then he'd have to turn it back around and and they were all the way up to the top so they must at this point be like really related to end. Of course they went. When Obama signed the were signed onto the Iran deal? They went well now the really on the fast track back to the nuclear bomb years later. No Nuke it's always been bullshit. Pure war propaganda. I refuse to even confront people people on social media like today I was saying I have sat someone I'm like. Do you know the difference between Sunni and Shia. And it's like if they don't know the difference they Nikko. It's all one thing and every day I had some guy who was like. Oh I was stationed over there and it's all the same and I that's a judgment upon you so you don't. You don't know that there's a difference. I mean ask. Somebody asked anyone walking down the street. Who's responsible for nine eleven? They're not going to say they're not going to say Suny. No no that no. That's right. This is Fox News and the like intentionally playoff playoff that I mean they intentionally where they go. Iran is the biggest funder of terrorism. Wink wink. You know they don't think you're talking about Hezbollah they don't don't think you're talking about. They think you're talking about Al Qaeda. They you know and like and it really is. It's it's it's just pure evil borderline criminal the way they they intentionally al-Qaeda boogeyman for everything right. Al Qaeda's in Yemen. You gotTa bump. Oh Al Shabaab is with al Qaeda in Somalia Malia well now and that's so any basically any suny with a rifle is al Qaeda any Shiite with a rifle is around because our that's more more or less the way it works in the Neo con worldview all right let's take a quick second and thank our sponsor for today's show our brand new sponsor. I WanNa tell you about these guys. It's a company. Company built on Libertarian Principles from a fan of this show some very excited to have them on board. The company is called UBI. D with UBI. D You can compete with large companies like Google facebook and twitter in the marketplace for your data. 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They're just GONNA go for it if they get the bomb so we can't let them have it And then of course. There's always the other after that didn't work out. There's always other reasons why we have to you. Know it's the pallets of cash and we you know the worst of their own cash but then it's then it's something about you know. Why did it have to be cash right? Well you took them off the swift system. You can't just like digitally right into that. Yeah that's actually why people still repeat the bullshit they go. There was Obama. Gave them tax EXP- payer money and it's like no one's more concerned with spending taxpayer money than me. This was actually an example of not taxpayer. Money if a libertarian is saying it's not taxpayer money it's frigging not yes. You might want to trust us on that because I care more about tax payer money than you MR military supporter That's that costs a little the tax payer money also but so the. What's interesting is that? What's become clear to any sober observer of this is that it's not only that the neocons were wrong In the fact that Iran has no self interest. What what's been clear since the Obama deal up to now undeniably so is that Iran does not want war with America? They are they are they. They have just as much if not more interest in self-preservation than any other country in the region the US doesn't want war with Iran. No I agree with any a ground war in Iran they're gonNA they're GonNa get slaughtered but what the what the what the Iranians have been working for. No I agree with both of them. Don't want don't really want this conflict. But what the the Iranians have made very clear since since signing onto the deal with Obama is. There's looks like look what we want to remove the pretext that you guys are going to use for fighting a war with us. That's what we WANNA do and for all the quotes that they bring up they'll be like they said they're going to wipe Israel off the face of the map. Scotland a great job of taking that whole bullshit apart but they said this and look. I'm sure you can't find some quotes in bluster where the Iranian government is said some things and of course you know I can find you quotes of Hillary Clinton saying we're going to obliterate Iran John McCain has Bam Bam Bam Iran and all these things but every single time I hear a high level member of the rainy in government speaking into the news media or speaking to their own state media or any of that every single time. What they say right into the camera is we don't want war with America America? We don't want this and of course they don't want this of course. Look I mean let's get real like it would be a bloody fucking war but there's no doubt who'd win this fucking war for America would win it. We would just have to suffer huge losses and particularly to strategic locations in the region because we have so many troops there there but of course they don't want this war look at what America does to all these fucking countries. We might be slowly bankrupting ourselves but we don't slowly bankrupt Libya or or Yemen or Iraq. We fucking destroy those places. We tear down nations and slaughter hundreds of thousands of people So of course they don't want it. But here's what's so fucking stupid about this this targeted drone strike and what. What just happened here is that this is the predicament you put on? It's like so in the same sense like when people talk about Kim Jong UN and they go well maybe we could negotiate with him to you. Know ease up a little bit on his own. People are liberalized the society or something like that. He can only do that so much. I mean he is himself. I mean I'm not feeling bad for him. He's fucking murderous psychopath. But what is he going to do. Just fucking lead information in and then as people slowly start eating a little bit more and slowly start figuring out that he's been lying his ass off to them for Decca. I mean he's going to end up like Moammar Kadhafi dragged through the streets and sodomize the debt by his own people. So there's only so much he can do and that's the truth with leaders all around the world pretty much every government is about as totalitarian as they can be and they work within as much as they can get away with. I mean what do you think the fucking Democrats and Republicans don't want to disarm Texas. Of course they do. They can't that's why it doesn't happen. That's why they try the bump stocks. How about this? How about you know a little bit more? You know. It's like they're always putting feelers out there. They're put what we're doing with this. Targeted strike is pushing ran to the place where look any government and obviously as me and you both a great. All governments are illegitimate. All governments are evil but the only way that governments can survive. Is They have to at least to some degree. Maintain the illusion that they can protect you from the outside of that is that is the baseline of how you justify your existence existence software. Yes yeah right you have to be afraid of something and I have to convince you that I can protect you. Otherwise why would you give up your your liberty to make so a ran gets pushed pushed into this position where it's like. Well you said this was a line in the sand for you that we couldn't cross well. They just crossed it so now. What are you going to do? So the fear is the only unreal like the the the worst thing that can happen in this situation. Is You put them in a position where they're like if we don't respond in some way to this we're bitches us in our own fucking you know what I mean like our own like. It's like if you confronted some guy with his fucking girlfriend and there's like six of you and is like a you know it's like Oh yeah your bitch got fat ass and you keep walking honey. Keep walking and you're like what am I going to do. There's like six guys there and then they fucking like slap your girl on the S. and you're like well now I have to go fight six guys and I know I'm going to lose this but my other option is I go home and I'm a bitch for all of eternity so I'm GONNA have to go out on my shield here and that's the fear is that you could push ran the it's the opposite of what the neo cons thought. You actually are going to have to push them to get them to want this fucking war that they can't possibly acidly win. So why are you trying to push them. What strategic advantages this to us? Donald Trump said today that he didn't order this targeted strike to start a war. He ordered it to to stop a war. And it's not about what this guy had done in the past. It's about what he was GonNa do in the future so what you think the Iranian influence on Shiite militias goes away now or do you think it consolidates even more it while. They're just showed who who gave him. That was that I wonder if that was him speaking for himself. Or if somebody handed him that you know I just doesn't doesn't doesn't make sense I mean no. Of course I mean it's an act of war by any definition of an act of war and the idea that you committed an act active war in order to prevent a war. I mean the silver lining of it. I guess is that maybe it indicates that trump is still on some level like now. I don't really WANNA get it into another war which the other the other aspect and I talked about this on the last show a little bit is that it is this this idea of starting a war in a re election year. I mean it's hard to talk about this situation and not think about the fact here. Let me let me actually read this because I thought this it was from an article from politico. So you know take it with a grain of salt fake news enemy of the people but they so they're going through Donald Trump's Uh Decision You know he was calm cool and collected said radio host. Howie Carr Okay so here was an interesting quote that I thought it was interesting. We had authority before the strike to take that action. said the official who wouldn't say how recently trump gave the Pentagon that authorization whether it was hours weeks or even months earlier as recently as New Year's Eve the president was telling reporters that he didn't want war with Iran Another quote I don't think it was so hard to find him because he was not below the radar in the last two or three years there's But the last two or three years. He worked in the open. This is according to a a former senior Israeli governmental official so and now continuing. We've known every minute of every day where Salaam solemnity is for years. There's there's no moment of any given day where five or six intelligence agencies can't tell you where he is. It's been one of his talking points. The Americans can find find me at any time. They just don't they are hit me so it seems like everybody's acknowledging that there was we could've taken taken this guy out for a long time. We don't exactly. How long did that trump gave this authority over to the to the Pentagon before this strike so it does kind of lead you to wonder? Well why right now. So is this what retaliation for this fucking. Nothing happened at the embassy and it's hard to not at least speculate and I don't now that there's anything to this. Just speculating but you know. Donald trump is in an election. Year is being impeached. And and historically. That's kind of the thing you do in an election year. And that's the thing you do when you're being impeached. You start a foreign conflict. You start bombing somebody body it appeases the whole military industrial complex. It appeases the whole corporate press which is nothing but the mouthpiece for the military industrial complex and then it kind of rallies voters around you like well. We're at a time of war now. And this guy's being Mr tough shot you know and he's he's keeping US safe so we better rally around him and I just wonder nder given the kind of unique circumstances that trump finds himself in whether that would actually work and I really got to think that trump if he were to start a new war I just think it would be a disaster for him politically. I just. Don't think the country as the appetite for it right now. It would be interesting to see if the left became an anti-war again again. Maybe maybe they would. I mean they certainly would be against trump's war I don't know if they'd go anti-war but they would oppose this trump debt. But the absurdity of this all is that I think this is probably more blow back on for the United on the United States part for that that contractor getting killed But the reason that contractor got killed is because the United States in Israel been bombing those five militias into the stone age for the last three months so they decided to lob some bombs back. Yeah so I mean that's what I'm sure it was like holy crap. We we got. We got Sulejmani and we got the other guy right there. Oh pump both of them. We got both of them right there because they they can't and it goes back to these militias were fighting alongside. The United States is against Isis. And it's like they turn on. It's like mm-hmm when I was talking to Scott on the phone today I was like reminds me of nineteen and one thousand nine hundred. It's like Oh yes. Saddam go ahead go into Kuwait Allah. Wait a minute we changed our mind. We don't want you to go into quite. Yeah it's like wait a minute hold on and then we'll start a war over that most likely Saudi who was Saturday's like hey we can't let them go into Kuwait. I mean it. You put yourself in a tough situation. This is the scary thing about it because like we said before it is pretty clear. That Aram doesn't want war with the United States of America and the United States of America doesn't actually want war with Iran. Either I mean certainly there are people who want war with Iran. I think Israel Israel wants the United States of America have a war with Iran. But there's too many people in the military high level people in the military who know what this would cost and they're just like look we we actually can't do this and understand. Also we don't have a draft and draft right now where we're relying on at this fucking volunteer force that is pretty overextended and is going through the longest wars in American history right now and the nation is you know pretty. Oh you know war fatigue or whatever they call it so it's so they don't want it but the problem is that like it's very very easy to start a war and it's it's very hard to end the war and when you have these situations so once you dig your heels in and you go. These Shiite militias are Iran backed militias. Okay okay so this is Iran and then you start bombing them. And you've got these troops stationed over there. Will what if one of them pulls off an attack and kills a few hundred American soldiers. Then what do we do. Then do. We have to go attack around you know. What if this is the thing where you start to see? What's really scary about this situation? Is like look just in and Syria alone. which is really a proxy war against Iran in Syria alone? You have the US you have Assad The Syrian forces you have Iran. You have Israel you have Turkey. You have Russia I mean this has the makings potentially of a World War. And we've been able to avoid that so far but these things can spin out of control. You know by the way credit to Vladimir Putin when those Russian contractors were killed a couple years ago that he didn't really you know pull the trigger therein escalate things but this is always a possibility that what can this thing can really get out of control. So it's just it's A. It was a terrible move by Donald Trump. Peter van Buren said that one thing that we really have going for us as far as not getting into a war with Iran is at the current Iot Tola has more of the kind of temperament it as like a Putin where it's like. Yeah he's not GonNa let he's not going to allow himself to be knocked around but He he no. They don't WanNa get into a war. You're not going to do anything that would cause a real escalation. You know like a nine eleven kind of young yeah. They're not going to do any well. It's weird I think about about it as something that make it look like kind of like I almost think about how like our position as people who who are or against the state that we live under where you go like look like if you WanNa make like a moral argument you could certainly argue that we have the moral right to violently resist our own government but none of us are really trying to do that because we know we're outgunned right now so you kind of try to walk up to the line as much which is you can and like. Let's build up numbers. Let's fuck in resist them. But it's like you know like if ninety nine percent of the society where an caps and then some tax collector showed up. Yep I have no problem being like what's that mister tax collector now. I don't think so but right now I'm like well here. You GO MR tax collector. 'cause we're not quite there yet and I think that's what a lot of these countries are like like. 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Don't don't listen to it and the last year I guess we recorded this and we were talking about an old Ben Shapiro article where he was like advocating genocide or something something like that and anyways so heavy. You're coming on. We Got Ben Shapiro clipped. So why don't we. It turns out by the way. We're wrong about everything we've been saying for the last forty minutes and Ben Shapiro. I was gonNA tell us why so. Let's start from the top. The Ben Shapiro show. Iranian forces attacked the American embassy in Iraq anti Semitic attacks become commonplace in New York City. City and Democrats. Continue to push impeachment. Happy New Year. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro. Show the Ben Shapiro show is sponsored by express. VPN or you can skip like thirty seconds or something. Thanks to the fact that the Obama Administration decided to basically make room for the Iranians. And and now you're seeing all these members of the media all these members of the left who are suggesting that it's president trump's fault that Iranian terrorists attempted to storm the US embassy over the last us three or four days. Okay so let's pause ready already. I love the the characterization some right from the beginning just give one side of every Oreo. They just stormed the embassy Iranians right Iraq Iranians the storm the embassy. I mean they had Hezbollah flags right. We don't even say it's like Ah forget saying like you know iranian-backed a Shiite militias without ever showing the evidence that they're directly iranian-backed backed Iran Iran. Did it sure why not you know so anyway. The the other part of this is that it's like if you WANNA use this logic that a militia that's backed let's say they get some weapons or some funding from one group Nope then they're Iranian backed militia. Well then okay. Isis is an American backed of militia. Our Isis right isn't that essentially they are. They're an American backed terrorist organization. Anyway the idea that the claim that and believe me I. I'm fucking ten times more critical of Barack Obama Than Ben. Shapiro is Ben. Shapiro is never going to tell you. Barack Obama should be tried for war crimes. Ben Shapiro is is not gonNa tell you. Obama should go on trial and spend the rest of his life in a fucking sell. I know he likes to posture. Like he's Mr Anti Obama. He's not anti Obama like any of us. Are the idea idea that Obama his policy was to make room for Iran book. He made this one deal with Iran. That neo cons like Ben. Shapiro should celebrate great because for years they were saying their whole issue. Was Iran getting a nuclear weapon. So if you got a deal where it slowdown there. Nonexistent nuclear weapons program and the gave more transparency. So that it could be checked on. I mean you guys should be happy for this but actually anybody. WHO's at all familiar with Obama's policy in in Iraq or Syria wasn't too friendly to Iran wasn't too friendly at all? He was backing the fucking suny radicals in both Iraq and in Syria. So don't fucking tell me that Obama made room for Iran. You know who did make room for Iran was George W Bush. You're fucking precious Republican. George George W Bush he carved up all fucking Iraq for around okay or at least the majority of it. So you WanNa talk about making room for Iran will. Nothing thing Did that more than overthrowing. Saddam Hussein but Ben Shapiro doesn't seem to be critical of that war and neither does Israel shocking. Like he's just speaking to his those people. Yeah I mean he's just speaking to the wonder what age he has to have. When I picture? His audience is like twenty to twenty five and sixty to seventy five. I don't think there's much in between there but it's just speaking to his audience. That's all they want. This is what they wanna hear. I mean I can't believe if he hasn't said pallets of cash it'll probably it'll get it there. Let's keep lying just that. This is because of trump's harsh policy on Iran. No this is because when you appease a power Tehran their power grows and they are able to stage events like this one and this is two very different views of foreign policy. And it's something that we ought to take note of because there is this tendency inside the right to be isolated myst- as well and these use of foreign policy one suggests that the role of the United States in the world should be basically we stay within our own borders. We wait to be hit if we are hit. Then we lash out and sort of quick fashion and then retreat back inside our own borders and that the outside world has nothing to do with us and this was America's foreign policy for large swaths of time up until the beginning of the twentieth century essentially for Gross and then there's the other view which that the world has become a very very small place and what that means is that when things happen abroad. Eventually they are going line to end up as being threats to the United States and so one of the goals of the US military one of the goals of American foreign policy. Let's wash deposit here. So I love the the characterization reservation of fighting a war when you're actually threatened it's like oh you just Kinda hang out and let him hit you and then hit him back and then come home and it's like yeah. Yeah in other words. You don't fight aggressive wars. That's your life that's how you walk through life. Yes that's how a human being walks through life. You don't go to lash out the people of similar lashes out at back. It's like I just. I just walked down the street punching people in the head. And you're like well what am I gonNA do. Just stay within my own body and wait for someone else to punch me. It's he's like. Yeah nobody's saying you can't try to dodge punch if it's coming at you but you don't get to go fight wars and then this thing that goes well the world's a very small place so if there's bad things happening outside hi it's going to come in to our shores really is going to. I mean I don't Know Ben Shapiro. There's a whole bunch of bad shit happening all over the world like back pretty much. Every continent has lots of bad shit happening and it pretty much. Every country has bad shit but like really you know like you know the entire continent of Africa Africa. Lots of really bad should happening there and South America lots of really bad shit happening then Europe especially Eastern Europe southern Europe. Lots of really bad shit happening there. Asia's pretty goddamn repressive. got like some real repressive regimes over there but it only seems to be the seven countries surrounding Israel. We're Ben Shapiro. Actually chilly puts this logic into practice and wants to go fight. Those wars just interesting. Those are the ones he seems to be like. Well we gotta go fight him there. And that's the whole point of why he thinks. Iran is an enemy. He thinks Iran is an enemy. Because I don't WanNa to say he's in Israel I or but I mean he takes Israel. Israel is very important to him. Yeah so when the Likud Knicks. Start saying Oh you know. Iran's our our biggest our biggest enemy well what is he going to say. Yeah he's just going to go with it. I would just I would. Bench appears not a dummy. He's a smart guy. I would just respect expect more if you came out and said it. Just be honest. Tell these fucking cornfed Iowa fucking white boys that they gotta go fucking die. Hi to protect your Jewish state. Go explain to them that I need a Jewish ethnos state in the middle of this fucking arid desert and you guys are GonNa behalf to put their lives on the line for it and the rest of you guys got to pay for it. I'm not a real big fan of that whole thing. That's going on where they They're going after Charlie Kirk whenever to ask him questions about Israel and everything but I wish there was a forum debate to talk about this because I mean this is really important I mean they do not have the their whole method may be all wrong but I mean it is important. You need to talk about it. Oh absolutely and and you know a A lot of these things where it's like. There's a lot of ideas where there are genuine ideas that are completely reasonable to debate and you make them off limits to debate then the people who are going to be willing to debate them are often times. GOING TO BE You know jerks and those are the people people who are gonNA be like well. I don't give a fuck about social norms anyway so like and that's not even within that group. There's there's a range you know what I mean but like Yeah Yeah No. It should absolutely be a reasonable discussion whether or not we should like. We have this unique relationship with Israel and it should be it. Should it'd be up for debate whether or not this is beneficial for America to have this relationship with them. One hundred percent. You know this is what was it. Nineteen forty thirty seven that the UN declared the two state solution. Okay it's two thousand and twenty what we were not allowed to talk about whether we need to be sending them billions of dollars dollars a year and engaged in all these military conflicts. You know you're not even allowed to bring up the whole. UN resolution and everything. Yeah no no that was there. It was already all these Jews there yet like seven percent of the population at that. Oh no this is what they used to. They used to say right. It was a A land without people for a people without without land it was there was no one there it was just Jews. No one else there except seven hundred fifty thousand Muslims who got displaced and the Great Sheldon Richman Legno. Who is my partner at the Libertarian Institute? Love to point out that seems that research is pointing to the fact that those people who were there are actually the real Jews who had converted over the centuries because Muslims came in and overthrew him and said you know you don't don't have to pay taxes if you convert and they're like okay fine really. That's interesting I didn't know that we've found his book coming to Palestine which institute I have it. I have not have not talks a lot about that. And of course that's That's something you can't bring you talked about the Khazar the whole Khazar conspiracy. That most Oshkosh nauseous. How's he is or they converted over the years and that pisses people off when it kind of makes sense? Yeah okay interesting. Well so you know it's it's right and it's like what is this. You know there there. There seems to be and much the same way the left uses the the. You know pejorative racist. If you bring up any issue that they feel uncomfortable with the Ben Shapiro Neo cons of the world just call you an anti Semite if you ever question whether or not you think we should fight wars to help Israel. I mean it's like worth fighting. Here's Ron Paul Rand Paul's Anti Semite. Because he's anti the war. Yeah but that means is. He doesn't want he doesn't want to fight wars for Israel right or anything. He didn't WanNa fight wars for anybody you know. And I certainly don't think Israel's the only one who's influencing us into wars I mean Israel isn't the major influence for why we're fighting the war in Yemen right now that Saudi Arabia. You know what I mean. There's there's lots of other influences. But they're the biggest. They are the biggest one hour. Let's keep lying threats before they occur. It's to make sure that we can minimize the possibility ability of risk growing and so to take an example. There are two views that were prevalent in the United States in the nineteen thirties. In the lead up to World War and this is Shaun suggests that we're about to go to war with with Ron which we are not okay but there are two views in the nineteen thirties in the lead up to World War. Two view number one was the old sort of isolation few and this was predominant in the United States. It was the view of the of the Republican Party was view of populist like Father Coughlin it was the view of many people who suggested that the United States basically had no role in the world if there was chaos over in Europe. Well that was a that. Was the Europe problem. If there is chaos over between Japan and China that was really a Japan and China problem. It wasn't really a US problem. And then that problem started to arrive on America's front doorstep and back doorstep as it turns out and then Pearl Harbor happens now. What what's interesting about? The reaction of the United States to Pearl Harbor is that we immediately got our backup. We recognize that our role in the world had to change. Because the fact is this the United States pretty easily could come to some sort of accommodation with the Japanese that would have allowed them to maximize the regional power even after Pearl Harbor and in fact it's possible. That's what the Japanese government thought was going to happen is that the United States was not going to go to full-scale war with Japan Pan even after Pearl harbor because `isolation sentiment was so strong and so they felt like okay. We'll hit them then. Maybe they'll back off. That's not what happened. The United States got its backup and instead the United States dates ends up defeating Japan and occupied Japan for the next eighty years. The United States does the same thing with regard to Germany. The America America's role in the world fundamentally changes because we recognize after World War. Two that there is no more of this. We can retreat within our borders and everybody will leave us alone all right well. That is worse. So what a Shocker Ben Shapiro Went to World War. I've never heard one of them. Make the World War Two argument before you know that that one is is brand new to me. Hey Ben now world war one no I mean when you do a great job with World War Two now explain World War One to me. Why was it that is a tendencies? Were so prevalent in the country because we had just I fought a world war for no fucking reason we just went off into the biggest were at the time in human history. Were you know ten million people get fucking killed and the lines of the maps get redrawn. Exactly the same way so of course people felt like yeah. Why do we give a fuck? If Europe is having a war. Why do we care like why would anyone care? And yes of course that was the attitude and then we realized that if you don't be because World War One never happened. Evidently so the lesson of World War Two is that we you know. We realized that if we don't go around the world fighting wars they come to our doorsteps. Just imagine you fight the biggest war in the history of humanity and that leads directly to another war. That's even bigger than that one. Okay so you have the World War One we get involved we smash a Germany made them sign. The Treaty of her side destroys the this crazy Weimer republic system where they have to take on the entire entire ward. I forget the numbers I think they would have been paying off till the mid nineteen eighties if they had a like stuck out the treaty oversight and weren't they like the fourth country three to enter the war and they like took all Germany had to take all the fucking blame. which was it was ridiculous to argue that the first World War was all German? As you wonder how if someone like Hitler is up and then you have you have the you have the Bolshevik revolution you have the Nazi revolution and now the biggest war in the history of the world world and then just a few years later you have to fight and even bigger than that and your lesson is what happens when we don't fight wars. This is what happens when we stay out of wars. It's great if you just just start at that point you start pick whatever point you want to you. Know it's like I punch someone in the face. And then they go to wind up and throw a punch back. But I'm going to start right at the wind up and go. This is what happens. When you don't punch people enough they just start punching you like? Yeah ruin the story a little bit so this is by the way the World War. I think it's all a fucking myth. It's like okay. It was all fucking continuation of World War One the there's actually a lot of evidence that fucking the FDR was tipped off about Pearl Harbor and basically didn't do anything about it aside from that it's like so then we you know so then. We were able to defeat Japan and Germany and we occupied them for many decades. And it's like right okay. You're kind of skipping over a little bit of a bloody point in the middle of that and also before that we Salat heard mass slaughter of civilians women and children. I know it's like we're only supposed to care about about the people who died on the other side of the war. But you know a whole bunch fucking Germans and Japanese the same way you know. There's people like me and you who aren't particularly fond of our government policy. There's whole whole bunch of fucking like kids who was just fucking seven year old boy. He he didn't have anything to do with fucking. You know what I mean like. Whether or not the fucking Hitler decided to annex Poland. You know what I'm saying. Then he's just some fucking kid and he gets burned alive wars against civilians which actually was not the norm for the hundred years before for World War One humanity had somewhat advanced out of wars that targeted civilians and with brought us right back into it within of course we nuked cities. I didn't have. I have been told that we didn't nukes genukh. Cities firebombed Tokyo after the war in Europe was over after there was no threat anymore and then we occupy these so you skip that part also skipped the part about how we sided with a more murderous dictator than Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin and handed over half of Europe to him for him to fuck an occupying. Go onto fucking do all types of horrible things to the people that he controlled. They're so skip all of that part but even if you were to give the World War Two analogy to them it's like okay so do World War One now do every war since World War tale so even if you had had one which you don't even have. This is the argument back to World War Two. Everything's Hitler okay. So so that's why we have to deal with Iran because much like the powerful industrial Germany Iran is also going to take over the world. Well you also have the Korean War the Vietnam the Vietnam. I'm war in this. Oh we have to stop the stop. The rising tide of communism the the wars in Latin America for the same thing. It's like well. Maybe if you didn't take their side Great World War Two Maybe would let the Nazis and the and the Soviets kill each other which they were going to do I had John Denson on on my podcast. And the title of the PODCAST is did the United States to fight World War Two and he's friends with the muses institute I mean he's responsible for the reasons to being an Auburn Alabama and he just ran down at he's like look they didn't have to fight this war. These guys we're GONNA kill each other. They were just going to you know it would have been a slaughter. Her and there was really no American interests to get in that war at all It's it's great. It's great to listen. I think episode three. Oh one of my podcasts. And it is just. He is so amazingly way just Breaks it down because I mean it is history and Just to talk him up a little bit judge Napolitano Latino said that Jon Benson is the greatest historian of twentieth century war. That he knows and John's is not a historian. He's a judge so yeah that's pretty incredible. Well yeah I mean it's just you know and then of course the idea that and this is the view of the the progressive. This is why you know when Michael Mouse. And he's not the only one who has made this observation but the idea that conservatives are progressives driving the speed limit and that's who the Conservatives is like Ben Shapiro who are within the fucking you know accepted mainstream narrative. This is what they do they basically go along with the kind of you. You Know Progressive View on things which is basically that if anything happens that's because we we learned a lesson and Prague and we progressed okay. So it's like this is always this is what of course the Great Murray Rothbart who was to me the best Historian at kind of revealing stuff and going through and showing you. What actually happened? But I've had this before where I argue with with progressives and what they'll say they are things like if you talk about regulation in the economy. It's like well. The fact is right that we used to not have this regulation and we have it now and how they I take that as well. We tried not having this regulation and then we realized we need this regulation and so we started this regulatory Ori Agency. That's basically the the idea of history that it's always been if it happened. It's because the right thing happened and therefore we we. We looked at the situation. It was and the people this collectivist that people decided that it was better to have this regulation and what we Rothbart pointed out in his book progressive error. Is that if you actually trace any of these these regulations that happened. It's never that there's this like popular uprising amongst people just decided. Oh we need to regulate this industry. What it is is that it's lobbied into existence? Lobbyists lobby the government to to use the government in their favor. It's not just because it's happened doesn't mean it's right that and of course this is how Ben Shapiro view of war so we used to kind of be be isolationist but then we realized that we were better off if we engaged in the world. When exactly did we realize this? When exactly did we realized this? I mean Eliot around the time built the Pentagon right right around the time the Military Industrial Complex Gary became very important so the true story. Is that the military took over the fucking country and we became the world empire. But there's no evidence evidence of win. The people of America decided we realized realized empire. I mean you go through it. Ron Paul used to point this out all the time. Go through all of the candidates I mean even Lyndon Johnson when he was fighting the war in Vietnam the way he beat Berry Goldwater was. They said he's going to drop the bomb that was the whole campaign against Barry Goldwater. He's going to drop the bomb so you don't WanNa go with this guy because then we're gonNA end up nuking people. And then Richard Nixon wins promising to end the war in Vietnam. Of course he goes on to escalate it before ending it. But that's what he ran on and one on every single and you can go through it to George W Bush no nation building no policing of the World Barack Obama. We're going to end all these wars in my first term. Donald trump trump. We're GONNA end all of these wars. Where exactly was this popular uprising? That we WANNA be the policeman of the world. Let one politician stand up on stage and say I I think we should fight wars of aggression and be the policeman of the world and involve ourselves in nation building and show me the poll numbers that he gets for that. 'cause you know Lindsey Graham ran for President Jeb. Bush ran for president. What did they do did they get one percent between the two of them? I don't think they did you know so. But that's the progressive view. You of how things always go that if it happened. It's because if the government does anything it's because there was this popular uprising and they decided what we tried it the other way you know we tried not fighting wars of aggression didn't work out so well we gotta fight wars of aggression. Of course there's a million questions. That is Ben Shapiro. Philosophy would lead to like okay. Well when do we decide who to fight a war of aggression against I mean like I said if you're saying what dictators okay what how. How many states in the world have dictators right now? A few hundred. Are we going to go after all of them. What is that when someone's oppressing their own people like what is it or is it just if you're a country surrounding surrounding Israel who doesn't have nukes is that because that seems to be more like I would actually plays out and of course the the other thing that he completely misses is that The the idea of blowback which is kind of central to all of this that actually has the reverse effect and that when America you know before before World War Two as he was saying when we had that whole isolationist streak which we weren't that isolationist. We were a lot more than we are. It's was very Iceland right. Yeah you know. We always meddled settled around Particularly in in Latin America but if a to be fair we were more non interventionist before World War tail. And why aren't we dealing with all these Muslim terrorists fanatics back. Then I mean. Why weren't they like bombs existed? Why weren't they strapped to their chest? Why did Syria vote to have America America rule over them after World War? Two like why I mean. Why did they like us over there? Why is it not until the creation of Israel until we side with Israel Israel until we put our military bases there until we starve the children of Iraq to death that then we deal with Osama bin Laden? I mean if you're telling me it's if you're telling you mean when we're non interventionist the threats bubble up and then come over here. Shouldn't it have been worse then than it is. Now since we've been way more interventionist if you're telling me it's just radical Islam did did did the religion of Islam get radical in the last couple of decades. I think it's been pretty much the same thing for for like you know hundreds if not thousands of years they they hit us for our freedom. Steve yet there you go there. You go play a little more of Benny boy over time and every so often reminded of this nine eleven. We were reminded that we can leave the Middle East alone. We can basically have a light footprint in the Middle East we can say that region of the world has not not much to do with us and that will not stop terrorists from hating us and wanting to attack us in wanting to kill American citizens and again there are two ways military response. I mean we we can have a light footprint except when did Osama bin Laden a really get radicalized I mean are light footprint involved Military bases in in Saudi Arabia. It involved a bombing campaigns in Iraq full UN blockade around the country. Three of Iraq. It was I mean. Come on when we increased our footprint in there that we started dealing with terrorism the relation is undeniable. And you you know it's like he said it in a letter to America. Yeah and what's funny is people are like well you know. In that letter he also mentions Women in this immorality rally and everything. I'm like yeah he's just using that to to rally the you know the radical the more radical people to well. Of course I know I agree with you on that. To even part of that is in a sense America imposing their will on that part of the world. I mean right so like somebody like this where they show these pictures of like women in mini skirts in Iraq under the Shaw and low. I'm sorry in Iran under the Shah. And then when you know there's the Iranian revolution. They're they're like oh well look at them now and it's like Yeah Okay I. I don't think that's great but you know the the libertarian and me isn't really saying we can go tell everybody how they're going to run their are fucking their country and also it's like well. How does that play to the radical Islamist? He's like Oh look. You used to have women in mini skirts. When we've fucking enforced our rules on you? They're like we don't want that shit so what you'd want to do is have some you know. Let them kind of come to their own conclusion and hopefully realize freedom to wear. miniskirts scores isn't the worst thing in the world. But like yes so okay so we threw that in there too. But do you really think women in miniskirts would be enough to fucking rally people up to it to go want to fucking blow themselves up killing people or would it may be you know if they've seen their family slaughtered. That might help a little bit more. You know it's interesting though is I know a few people from Iran. And they're the nicest people I've ever met. And then if you talk to somebody who has been Iran. Iran who doesn't have an agenda doesn't go there would have preconceived notion they talk about how they're just the nicest people I remember Anthony Bourdain talking about how they were. Just everything that he had been told about. The Iranian people was just completely wrong and they do have like nightclubs and shit like that. There's a whole like underground culture where they don't fucking listen to the Goddamn government and you know what I mean. It's like he you know again. You can think of a lot of things that kill rules here. They don't kill like Gay People they like. They actually have I. I learned this about Tehran and it blew me away there. The plastic surgery capital of the world and one of the reasons they do it is because if they find out one of if a family member finds out someone's gay they try to convince them to have a sex change so that yeah. I didn't know that is is pretty interesting stuff going on that. Yeah it's but yeah I mean like I have a really good friend who's from from Iran and everything and he doesn't WanNa live there and everything but you know he's he doesn't have the most horrible things things you know. He doesn't have all these horrible stories. And everything and especially about the people you know. And that's that's the problem is and I know this is really fundamental but associated with the people of the country with their government is just just the worst man. I don't want to be associated with this government. I don't want people to think about what I've traveled outside inside the country and people start asking me questions and everything like the first person you know. Even this was twenty years ago I was the first. WHOA wait a minute? WHOA WHOA WHOA? I'm not my government. Yeah I'm just here for peace. I'm a peaceful person and you know I'm here for commerce. I'm yeah we're GONNA have some drinks and everything like that but People Forget forget and it's so easy and they demonize them and it really started with Russia. Yeah demonizing the people of Russia because of their government. Yeah yeah no absolutely and then of course you see like with with the Soviet citizens even after what was it seventy years of Soviet rule they. I still work as soon as they got the opportunity to break that thing up they were ready to do it. They were happy to tear down that wall and start dancing in the streets with the people of West Berlin Berlin. It's because they were suffering that East German Stasi made porn. Did you see that months ago. It came out that like porn in East East Germany was made by the Stasi really. Oh really and I'm like I'm pretty sure I can find that somewhere more online but I really don't want to. I'm GonNa Pass on that one. Well yes okay yeah. I'd be tear down that wall to that situation. And it's a free freemarket porn but it is like you know and of course you'd know that from from living here it's like obviously different. Different cultures are different. But but the idea that anybody would be completely associated with their government and and we live under suppose a democracy I mean in Iran. It's not even like they're they're getting a real. I mean maybe they get a vote. But it's like it's even more of a sham election than ours are GonNa really like the people that are selected to be allowed to run the anyway anyway. Let's play a little bit. More of the Ben Shapiro. Show bonds to events like this one is that in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor which killed on the order of of two thousand Americans that in in the aftermath of Pearl Harbor America entered a war in which two hundred thousand American were killed in World War Two was that a disproportionate response. Yes in some mhm ways I think there are some isolation are yes pat Buchanan for for example a sort of argued yes get the same thing has happened in the aftermath of nine eleven. There's the argument that was made that they yes. They killed three thousand of our citizens. But then we've been involved in wars that have killed more American troops than that more American troops have died in those wars but this fundamentally mistakes the role of the American military and the role of of America in the world and that is the American military people sign up. It's particularly now as he volunteer military. These are heroes. Who are signing up to defend America's freedom they're not signing up in order to be paid to sit at a base in Georgia? That is not why they sign up and to treat them as children to treat our soldiers as left likes to do as sort of pawns and political games. Where air anytime somebody says? We need to US troops to defend our embassy in Baghdad for example then lots as well. How many troops are you willing to risk? Wasn't that's a fine question but it's not a fine question if you do it every single time we talk about using military force independent right there say are ponds Ben Shapiro says that if you ask how many troops you're willing to risk which he and then even catch themselves and look that's a fair question to ask put to ask it every time. Yeah Ben WE'RE GONNA ask it every time every fucking time you ask. How many any of our young men are you willing to fucking sacrifice for this mission and then you have the nerve of saying? That's the left using the troops as pawns. You are quite literally sending them in as the definition of Ponce. This is what you do with Pons. Yeah that's the whole point of Poland's orange you can sacrifice them ever noticed the people in the press. People like Ben Shapiro. That are most happy and exuberant exuberant. To Send men into harm's way or the ones who would never do it themselves. Never that that article that we talked about when I was on your show episode you just recently shared. That was an article from Ben Shapiro. He was of age to go join the military and it was ten months after nine in eleven and he had plenty of time. You know it's like I think I was recently talking with the bird from friends against government and I was like after after nine eleven. It was like after a week and a half. I stopped being upset. You know I got my mind back I got. I got my composure. Back and everything like that. Ten months later he's putting putting out these articles about how just kill civilians. Who cares just bomb everywhere? It's like the can you call someone at the CIA eight to learn about blowback. I mean that was a term. It was already there right. Yeah it's like I mean come on. Don't you understand exactly what you're doing. I mean forget about the whole morale forget about about the morality of it for a second. Just how many enemies are you trying to make me Scott Talks about in the book fools. Aaron that when when McMahon when McMaster was on the ground in was it McMaster who who is the general the one that trump had. What is it might have been mad? Mattis Yeah Mattis was on the ground there and there was like what four hundred members of al Qaeda they were trying to kill you and it was and then they let they dropped that That daisy cutter and got a bunch of them and everything but then they escaped into the mountains opens and everything like that and they could and mattis calls and goes yeah. Let's go. Let's go after him now. Extend down come on what do we do. You WanNa talk about pawns. Those people there those men there that they were the biggest pawns. And it's just ridiculous and it's not even I mean you know and the the idea that they're I if we don't like if we don't And Scots made this point to that. If we don't like occupy Afghanistan. The problem is that you know if we retreat. Then they'll just plan another nine eleven from Afghanistan as if there's something so special about Afghanistan the German from Europe it was legal immigration of how they got in they had visas to come in so like I mean this whole thing is like it. It's just absurd and of course you know Ben Shapiro's talking about how because it's funny that he mentioned because it's a volunteer volunteer army you know. They're all heroes. Even though World War Two was his great example which wasn't exactly a volunteer army But you now is the volunteer army and I will not have you use them as pawns by questioning whether or not we should send them off and the idea that so that these soldiers join up. They don't join up to go. Sit in a base in Falcon Georgia or something like that. It's like yeah I'm sure why don't we let them voluntarily voluntarily pick. Why don't we let the soldiers voluntarily pick whether they get stationed in Germany or and we'll see I mean some of them? Bradley actually do go because they WANNA fight and see action all bunch of them are going for like the benefits in the shit. They're getting bribed into this four and they'd be just fine to go chill. Yeah my my cousin joined the army at thirty four and he became a cook. They sent him to Afghanistan. And guess what he was doing. Two weeks into Afghanistan tour. What's that he was out on patrol? Yeah Yeah Yeah so yeah. Join the military very be a cook you know be a chaplain or something like that. Don't be surprised or you know the worst is i. I don't know if people realize this. I had a a former coastguard guy on A. Ah podcast yet. He was fighting Somali pirates. Now in the coastguard. What coast does he protecting right? I don't think a lot of people realize realize that that the Coast Guard was sent over to fight Somali. Pirates part of AFRICOM. And it's just you know the idea that at at it's not as this is being said like in a vacuum this is said in today's world after fighting the longest wars in American history. And we're all over the place I mean we've fought wars in you know since nine eleven Afghanistan Iraq Libya Syria Yemen Somalia in Pakistan. I mean all over the place where there's military strikes missing a few Niger. It's like all over. The place is financing and training and soldiers to go into Somalia Al Shabaab and every last one of these. I mean we have nothing to show for a single one of them. So it'd be one thing if you're talking about like well you know if you're like well you know I mean hey we lost a couple thousand people here and then we've lost thousands more since we had these wars but is that just proportional well. Pat Buchanan would say yes but you you know. I think it's not the role of American foreign policy. It's like okay. We'll what are we sacrificing those guys for. Just please explain this to me. What is it that we're sacrificing advertising? I mean there's more radical sooners who want to fucking kill us now now there seems to be more radical Shiites who WANNA fuck and kill us. Which one of these countries is better who we helped? Who have we made safer in the world? Can anyone actually argued that were were less likely to deal with terrorists. Because Gaddafi Veep and Saddam Hussein are gone. The were more likely to deal with Let's just play a little bit more because there's another part that gets pretty good in this and buy American assets abroad so we have to decide what we want America's role in the world to be And also we have to be realistic about the fact that if America retreats from certain areas of the world other forces takeover if Veron takes over Iraq of FRONTEX over Syria Iran over Lebanon and FRONTEX over Yemen that has significant ramifications for America's foreign policy not just in terms of the economy and shutting down the streets. WHO's but but in terms of actual security policy? The fact is the Iranian. Government is the chief sponsor of worldwide terror on planet earth. Right now if the Iranians let's take over the region that maximizes Russian Polish Russian. So here's the here's what's funny. Why would they close the Strait so her moves? Well yeah I mean it's just yeah that's that's the big threat that they could close this fucking straight of Hormuz even though they've never done it a theoretically if they could then why wouldn't they and of course as we've said before we go well you there's a vacuum If we go over there and then Iranian power could come into that vacuum taken over. It's like look by the way fair enough to say they're even meth. Scott calls also safety but there is something to be said for the fact. I don't completely disagree with the idea that America is exerting power in lots of different areas and and if they leave somebody else will most likely exert power and a lot of those areas. I'm not expecting them to become Rothbart. Anna Capitalist States tomorrow so yes somebody else is going to exert power there however if we topple regimes somebody else also exerts power there. And that's how Iran got all of this influence in Iraq Iraq. To begin with so you at least start by saying man we got this Iraq war. Completely wrong I mean if you can't admit that that's crazy but this fucking Fox snooze rush limbaugh talking point that Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the world. Just guys next time anyone anyone says that to you answer in one word receipts. I need to see the receipts on that. I know you make this claim a lot. I know you like to throw throw this out there. Number one sponsor of terrorism in the world show me in what world Iran has has sponsored more terrorism than Saudi Arabia use rail and America cutter you a hotter. Please show me show me what world they've sponsored more terrorism by the way we've fucking sponsor more to the United States federal government sponsored more terrorists than around and way more effectively. Okay is air force really. We're sponsoring them right now. Now as an Israel Turkey on that list too was Aranjuez. Gets this this credit and like nobody's ever nobody's ever pushed to go like this. Show me the evidence. The evidence that they support more and the only person who during that whole thing where they're like. Oh we're worried about the Kurds. Because Turkey's I think I was the the only person going if there are NATO ally don't you just get him on the phone and say you guys stand down a little bit while the funniest thing about all. That was such a great argument. Meant for just the fucking absurdity of NATO so you go oh my God. Our big concern is that Turkey's going to slaughter the Kurds and you. Do you realize that if the Kurds heard you say that and attacked Turkey. We have to go to war with the Kurds in defensive Turkey because because there are NATO ally and that's what NATO is. It's a joint defense agreement. So this isn't it this at the very least argument that Turkey shouldn't be in NATO like at the very very least we now know a historic institution have to keep the institution so you know for institutions sake. And I've heard a lot of people like shed shed on Chomsky because they say oh Chomsky's blindspot is Turkey will Turkey's fucking evil man. Turkey is really evil Turkey of course was in in with the US Saudi CIA is real plan of arming Isis. That was that was all of them together But the other thing the other element to this that I think is really funny. Right is that and this is I guess. Just back to the pure anarchy capitalist Philosophy stuff. Oh you're gonNA some people in the group that yeah well I sure well but well fuck them. This is an an cap. Show deal with that. But so so the definition of terrorism more or less is Acts of violence silence for a political purpose but not if a state does it but if Iran doesn't so Iran is not only the sponsor of terrorist understand understand what everybody in the in the corporate saying Donald Trump just kill the terrorist. Donald trump just killed a terrorist. But he was a state actor was Wedeman. How come he's not shielded from this terrorist label? This guy who's working directly with the government of Iran not not working with the government or is a member of the government of Iran. Okay so why does he can hold on. If we're taking that shield away which is just an imaginary fucking shield the idea that when a government does it if the US military terry does it. It's not terrorism but if Hezbollah does it it is why by the way has got some fucking political control in inside Lebanon. I think they still have some representatives presentative there that are that are official has so they get off that list now too. I thought once because if you're gonNA take that shield away and now all of a sudden being state state actor doesn't protect you from the the charge of being a terrorist will now. Who's the worst terrorists? Now is the worst terrorists since you're great world war. We're to Ben Shapiro. WHO's killed more people abroad? How many how many does Iran have on their track record? I'm just asking a simple mathematical medical question. How many innocent civilians has Iran killed since nineteen forty five and? How many has the United States of America's military killed since nineteen forty-five because spoiler alert ours is in the millions? Like you know what they'll say what he'd say is he'd say that Iran has been sponsoring answering terrorism all along so every life that's lost in Islamist terrorism is on Iran. That's right it's all on at like you said receipts. Yeah prove it. Prove it just because you say this like it's a statement of fact so I would just like to see the evidence. Thanks for that. And we have proof that about Saudi Arabia and everything the The whole Justa where they were going to allow American Americans who lost people in nine eleven to sue people in Saudi Arabia especially the ones that they finance nine eleven and everything and then it was. It was shut. That was shot down. which would have opened up a can of worms about how many Muslims can sue America? Yeah right yeah yeah. Yeah which is an interesting idea of greatest. Shut everything down. Of course the problem with going after Governments for for you know money is that governments governments have no money. They just have tax cattle and fucking. Those people didn't necessarily do anything to you at all. And so you just end up is basically somebody somebody else is GONNA get robbed. So there's no real way this is one of the worst things about the state. There's no real way to get justice against the state because they don't have anything they just have what they steal from their people. Well yeah they they steal from us and then when they fuck up and have to pay something out they steal from us to pay it out to pay out there damages right. Yeah no no. It's really it's really something but this this idea that Iran is is the you know the great sponsor of terrorists. Well look I mean again. Then what Ben Shapiro's clearly concerned with here is Israel and he gets to at some point. We're not GONNA have time to play. But at some point he basically says it But it's like okay Hezbollah Hezbollah look the same. Scott Horton said this to me once and it really changed forever like my my perspective on these things I realized he was right and we were talking about Iran. I think a couple of years ago and I had on and we did a show about Iran and I was just like this is just so ridiculous and I was. I was kind of saying some of the old Ron Paul lines that he used to use at the debates bates which were amazing. Now it'd be like a ran like everyone's talking about Iran using a nuclear weapon. He goes does not have a nuclear weapon and they don't have an air force capable of delivering a nuclear weapon to us. This is all a made up conversation and he would say. Iran is an oil rich country. That doesn't have enough gasoline for their people. This this is how backward they are compared to this is no threat to us. There's there's no threat like and I was talking to Scott about this and I was like how. How can these people pretend that Iran is the number one threat threat? The idea that Iran poses a threat to the United States of America is so laughably absurd and he was like yeah because he goes. But Dave. That's because you're looking king at it as a threat to our nation. But that's not what they're talking about their thing. They're threat to America to them means they're a threat to the empire empire and in that sense it's kind of true in. That's it from that perspective. They're not wrong. They are a threat to US ruling the world they're the threat to US ruling. That part of the Middle East us the federal government not me and you But in the same sense Russia's a threat because they're not they're not under. US hedge hegemony. They're not under. US control so in the same sense and in this sense Hezbollah is a legitimate legitimate threat. Hezbollah is a legitimate threat to Israel's ability to occupy southern Lebanon. They are not the same person. You'd be like yeah but what Israel isn't a right to fucking occupy southern Lebanon. They're not a threat to Israel the nation. But that's not what they look at it as it's the empire so that's where they go. They sponsor this terrorism resum like Oh my God Hezbollah attacked Israel in southern Lebanon when they were occupied. Kick them out. It's like okay. That's their big crime. As they won they fucking drove out of Lebanon. So they fucking so that. But if you're in America if your concern is the nation of America like who can actually attack us over here well okay. Hezbollah's never posed a threat to us at all. We have had some countries really now. We have had in issue in America. Gotcha with to terrorist organizations. That legitimately have attacked us in the West and inspired attacks in America. The two are al Qaeda and Isis. That's it both suny both radical both funded and armed by the United States of America us with our tax dollars so you WanNa talk about sponsoring terrorism. Sorry look in the mirror and then your other precious country Israel Ben has also sponsored those guys so sorry sorry this Iran Shit is all bullshit and let's hope we don't fucking go to war with them. Goddamn the problem with the Ben Shapiro's the world is you know we've talked about this before. Is that for somebody who hates identity politics abby his whole identity entity is wrapped up. I mean he never takes the cough. I mean it's his whole identity is Jewish and Israel. Oh yeah and it's just and you know like Ron Paul. He's always saying that. Ron Paul and pretty much anybody who speaks out against the relationship which I don't even know what it really is. I mean I can ponder what the relationship between Israel and the United States is but he. He always says anybody who criticizes at his anti Semitic right and and he's gotten to the point. I mean really like racist what is anti Semitic mean anymore. Yeah I mean Semitic Eric is includes the Arab so technically he. Doesn't you know it's just a pejorative to shut people shutdown. Just yeah yeah I mean it's like what is it that that's what I was saying like with the term racist. It's like what is it even meet like. Are you saying you want to like take black people shit or you want them enslaved or you want them like four segregation by the government or you saying like you don't like them or you say mean things because those are pretty different you know or or maybe it's not even any of that. It's just that you're like I don't believe in affirmative action you know it's like it all of that. All all of that gets like literally from. I think we should fuck in like ethnically cleanse you to. I don't believe in affirmative action all falls under the banner of this term racist and you're like those are wildly different things but they range from evil to correct and they all fall under the banner of this one word and anti Semitic again and falls. It takes the banner of we should throw them all in ovens to. I don't believe in foreign aid. And that's all under the banner of anti-semitism and after a while someone calls you these these terms and I've been called both of them and it's like what does this mean because this is the term is so broad that it means nothing nothing and again there's like and then it's like well you're racist anti-semitic it's like well I'm very against the evil half of that you know like I'm against all that Shit over here on the evil side but over on the reasonable side. I think we should probably talk about that. So it's all it's all God damn joke all right anyway. It's always fucking great. Always great having you on so people can read your stuff at the Libertarian Institute Dot Org C.. My name up in the masthead Freeman me on the wall. PODCAST Got An episode dropping on Monday with the holidays and everything I was doing Episodes that were all released. The episode from a couple years ago that we you did and I did. I released today an episode where somebody else was interviewing me on their show but Monday episode. Three Sixty We're going to be talking about gun grabs. 'cause you know everything about Virginia and they're going up we're going to talk about. The most important gun grabbed that most people don't know about in US history. And that's wounded knee the massacring of Indians because they didn't want to give up their gun. Yeah and We're GONNA that's about seventy minutes of history of the Indian wars is and I'll also. Yeah so you've got a guest on. I know I have a guess Matt. Free Matt Freeman from the status quo. PODCAST he's re. What a story A to go? He was in Iraq. Soldier in Iraq came home. All sorts of problems got hooked on. Painkillers started dealing painkillers. Killers did three years in jail. Jay came out totally turned his life around and his podcast is he talking about receipts. He brings as the receipts for everything he talks about. 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APG 388  I Gnu It!

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APG 388 I Gnu It!

"It's the guy there line pilot guy episode three eighty eight. You're listening to the airline pilot. Show the few from our side of the cockpit door on captain jeff. Your host broadcasting live from studio one a at a p g headquarters in roswell georgia. Today show was recorded on the twenty third of august twenty nineteen today's episode the pilots of the miracle on the cornfield twin engine flameout crash landing are awarded heroes of russia by president vladimir putin a light twin crashes into a home in uniondale new york killing the pilot and a person inside the home more news your feedback doc and this week's plane tail all weather heather so get all settled in tray tables and seat backs in their upright and locked physicians electronic devices powered on white. Three eighty eight is ready for pushback. Is this week's episode of the airline pilot guy show. I am captain jaffa captain for a major u._s. Legacy carrier and here with me today from his studio on the english countryside a professional photographer former r._a._f. Aren't double af fighter pilot current captain for an international airline based in london captain nick. Uh yeah hi jeff. If only i was still carrying. I was just reading the script. I forgot to change sorry. If i'd be <hes> well well. I suppose i could be since i wouldn't have to officially retire until the ninth of september so i would have a few days left but they're fast approaching. Now now. I'm i'm not gonna climb into announced another flight deck and this is for fun. We can get you into the simulator and get y'all re qualified and everything else calls in just a couple of days dry. No thank you thank you all right. Well glad to see you sir. <hes> how's everything over there <hes> <hes> in england i pretty good. We're having a warm spell. After a period of a rather dubious weather the australians are over here <hes> telling us <hes> play cricket <hes> which is quite amusing but at the moment <hes> there in the lead and doing buddy well <hes> and more importantly. I've got a small shoutout. I've got a lovely email from <hes> one of my first officers <hes> william <hes> <hes> will <hes> those of us who don't want to use his full name <hes> who was on his way in an airbus to a of delhi and he happened to be going through the moscow control zone and control of ladd piped up and said do you know <hes> camp nick and he said yeah i used to wi with him so control of live very kindly passed on his best regard sun warm wishes as for my retirement and i appreciate that very much date black very kind of you and he's a shot at you and only the most gay controllers who looked after so so well when we get through that space i say thank you very much indeed palate and also showed up for my dad pump who who <hes> sir and i believe watches the show regularly and is still doing very well indeed so <hes> great heavy onboard pop and you keep going wherever hoping still to come out and see you before too long in the meantime i hope catching up with us on <hes> video well <hes> <hes> remind you of how ugly your youngest son is and how and how good he feels about how good looking and it's why grab bid you should hide allies wrinkles bits well. That's awesome mm-hmm yeah controller vlad big part of our a._p. G. community over there representing russia who absolutely yeah i don't know if you noticed a vlad if you're listening now <hes> <hes> but <hes> the last episode i put in a couple of your individual recordings of some of those moscow airports and i don't think i got him in while we're recording live but i did <hes> in post editing. I was able to get those oh yeah i just listened to show yesterday and they came through very well indeed so thanks very much indeed. So what else am i doing today. Well tomorrow is finals day. <hes> in <hes> the bowling club so <hes> having fought fought my way through all the various rounds. I'm at least <hes> working to win. Two trophies tamara sadly the championship trophy if he which i lifted last year all i've <hes> been able to do to that today's polish it in preparation for giving it back because i'm not in the final for that <hes> this year it'll go to somebody else but i am in the handicapped final <hes> which i hold the highest number of shots. I have to give give to anyone in the club which is a bit tough but <hes> <hes> so. I'm playing that tomorrow and also more of the pays so i'm really looking forward to that and perhaps helped bring home. Some silly inevitably okay that is fantastic can't wait to hear about the the results of that on the on the next episode. Yeah fingers crossed if mentioned in the so if he does well. We'll hear about it if he doesn't well. We'll just move onto something else and quite right too. <hes> steph is going to join us as soon as she gets back from <hes> <hes> work today and it's a friday afternoon where recording on the twenty third of august and a typical friday afternoon traffic that she's in right now <hes> also <hes> dana is not going to be able to join us today because he's on his captain dana birthday motorcycle trip trip ride whatever he's calling it <hes> i was looking on the community calendar and he's got a big banner on there that says that he's on something like a four day adventure on the motorcycle with a bunch of other fellow pilot harley davidson riders so he is unable to join us today. His birthday by either way is to morrow. I believe the twenty fourth of august does that make him a gin like me. Excuse me <hes> he's virgo is not of virgo the virgin i hadn't thought of it. I guess he is because i am a time which is very very app considering. They allina which will sam is right. I don't know what the crossover is in the horoscope. <hes> if it's is right around this time time of month isn't it like the twenty second i i. I would have thought so yeah. Now you very <hes> stalwart on our show carrying on not feeling well you better now. Oh i'm so much better <hes> yeah. I limped myself home the next day and <hes> basically said i think i can make it home but i i'm pretty sure i'm not going to have the stamina to do that last turnaround it wasn't a bad turnaround but it was just <hes> you know going to get me home late in the afternoon and they said oh that's good you know we can we can get somebody else to cover the tripoint those last two legs from atlanta to columbus ohio and back and i said thank you very much so i just went home and basically went straight to bed took more <unk> aspirin slash advil other an s._a._d.'s or inset wonder how you say that n._s. Aides or something like that. Anyone thinks wchs is seasonal affective disorder now. That's not then pretty sure those pills weren't for that anyway to try to get rid of my my <hes> fever and headache and it just wasn't going away and i had the best i could do what the fever reduction analgesics was to get to a low grade fever but at least it wasn't a my tapped. My fever was or the temperature was in the one hundred to two hundred and three degree range range but don't worry you know i was looking at all the all the symptoms of whatever i was experiencing and one of the things that kept popping up was <hes> meningitis they went <hes> but the thing that they said about that was pretty common on for most people who like neck pain and the fact that you can't take your touch your chin to your chest and so i tried that and i could do that. My neck really wasn't hurting so i thought i don't think i have meningitis so i decided to not go see the urgent care folks and just kinda lie low but i was like that for several more days and so so much so that i had to stay on sick leave for the four day trip that i was scheduled to do this week so i've i've been home basically since last good for you yeah that's tough so steph. Steph says it and sets and said okay. That's the way you said to say. Thank you <hes> so yeah. I been feeling pretty much normal the last maybe two three days also so thank you for asking. I'm better now normal for you. Yeah normal for me okay well. I still kind of foggy to my normal. Body confused not the i had an enhanced version of confusion in vosges when i was should've been. I'm doing the cat three then. Why did i get my f._a._a. Physical this morning and <hes> mentioned to the doctor said asked asked me if if <hes> you know anything was going on with my health since the last time he saw me in february and as a well as a matter of fact just a few days ago and so i told him about the whole thing is that i'm just assuming it was some sort of virus and he said <hes> probably so and he said that if you start getting those symptoms again then you know you need to go and have it checked out because it might be a symptom of something more serious happening with your body bent <hes> the thing that he was looking at a my but my charts going. I know i've said this before and he goes knock doc on wood but he said so. You're about to turn sixty one. This december and you're not on any any kind of medication. I said yep and he goes well. Hope you stay that way. He's a very very uncommon for somebody my age so yeah. I mean it's got a u._s._b. An excellent health and somebody is looking off to you well. I hope so oh you know. I try yeah anyway <hes> so i'm good for another six months with my f._a. A class one medical certificate certificate and <hes> my next trip is the sunday. I normally don't fly on sundays but i needed to pick up some time i ended up having to drop trip at the end of the month and i had to pick up something so leaving on sunday and it's a three day and get back on tuesday so that's pretty much what's been happening with me mostly just kind of lying around <hes> sleeping trying to kick whatever virus was going on me and and that's it nothing l. Let your body heal itself while done exactly okay. <hes> since <hes> staff is still not with us. Why don't we move onto into the coffee fund. If you're ready yeah. Let's do it. Johnny how much more coffee love coffee. I love tea a._p. Community coffee and tea and the java and me accomp- because the cut all right right the coffee found is your way dear listener to support the shelf financially and if you're if you have the resources to do so <hes> you should check it out by going over to airline pilot dot com slash coffee a couple of different ways to do it. <hes> the clock the coffee fund classic method auto pay pal where you can make recurring donations or one time <hes> contributions to the show <hes> since the last episode we've had add recurring contributions from terry lou chris randall and david liebe and a one time contribution from randy ward who was in in italy right now with his wife enjoying a nice italian vacation the other way to support the show the coffee the coffee fund patron method. You can become a patron of the show at patriotair dot com for you. Uh pledge a certain amount per episode and since lascaux no new patrons so kind of quiet on that front but again if you're interested in helping us out financially head over to airline pilot guide dot com slash coffee. You'll be glad glad you did and we will to stay on mm-hmm sad news in new orleans on well. Just a few days ago nancy parker a journalist at fox eight which is a local news affiliate in new orleans was killed in a small plane crash. <hes> the pilot of the plane franklin j p augustus was also killed. They were shooting a story in a stunt stunt playing. It's a <hes> pits <hes> nineteen eighty-three pitts s to be aircraft and just shortly after takeoff it crashed about a half mile south of the airport report and i read an update to the story that said that <hes> the pilot had radioed the tower indicating that there was some sort of problem with the engine and the airplane plane went down killing both <hes> nancy and franklin and that's the only information bill ben able to glean from that but that's one of those high profile things that <hes> and one of the sad things that you read and hear about and you know you don't like to see <hes> but it looks like <hes> you know she was making some effort to promote aviation and <hes> it all went bad and <hes> she was fifty three years old and survived by her husband and three children and didn't say anything about the age and <hes> family of the pilot of the aircraft so sad. Isn't it jeff tuesday. She's just doing her job at probably a complete one off and <hes> there <hes> the guy was a member of the of a louisiana group that on the sieg hammond <hes> i mean he was obviously well. Known affiliate could pilot. He had a fine airplane <hes> and just awful to think that they both die doing something they they both love <hes> but i guess if you're gonna go that's better pipes than some ways yeah true instead of a long drawn out illness or something <hes> but still quite ashok 'specially young i think the <hes> the pilot the guy that <hes> <hes> supported the tuskegee airmen <hes> was was an older gentleman gentleman not that that makes it any less us a tragic but <hes> the news reporter was only fifty three and i i can say only fifty three because i'm only sixty so anyway <hes> for here any updates on what caused the engine to fail will let you know <hes> speaking of <hes> engine failures and this next item be from the poughkeepsie journal dot com <hes> and also the the <hes>. Where do i get this from the aviation safety network <hes> a cessna t three zero three crusader november three zero three tango lima impacted a residential structure on south road and union vale nor new york shortly after departure archer from the sky acres airport in new york the plane i departed from gumri orange county airport new york then stopped refuel forty miles away at this airport. The sky acres airport before continuing toward the east farmingdale republic airport in new york on long island. I believe the aircraft was destroyed during the accident sequence quince one of the three occupants aboard was fatally injured. <hes> the remaining occupants survived <hes>. The residential structure was occupied by three people. One is a key unaccounted for one received fatal injuries and the last one was not injured <hes>. There were also three dogs inside the house. One was found deceased. I <hes> one puppy survived and will make a full recovery and the last puppy is still missing so hopefully we'll find that maybe it still hiding <hes> <hes> that was a twin engine airplane as i mentioned <hes> cessna ts three zero three and <hes> <hes> not sure exactly <hes> the story here. Did they mention what happened was it an engine failure. Young says not long after the succeed of plane left <hes> the airport turn john had engine trouble that went down yeah <hes> so i don't know if that is one engine both engines of fuel issue causing the engine starvation or whatever fuel starvation. We're not sure the the crash site sydney two thousand feet south of the runway so it didn't get trifle now didn't didn't so that's all we know about this one again the f._a._a. And the n._t._s._b. will be investigating the cause of the gresh. Yeah i always try to when <hes> people who really are in bold in aviation get drawn into an accident might this side of the ball. You're pensive house <hes> very sad <hes> uh-huh because they just sit and they go about their day when an airplane full of fuel plows in particularly side <hes> in a hum gonna suck very big soft spot in my heart for bora dogs <hes> for any animals because <hes> apps humans. We're often more capable of <hes> getting out of the way or sorting ourselves island. They're often left completely vulnerable in these sort of circumstances in the fact that attack. There's a puppy still missing hang. It's very sad yata and of course sadly. I think <hes> you've had a problem with your breath donning. It'll happen to you. Oh yeah yeah thank you for mentioning that greta <hes> the very very very very old dachshund that we <hes> ended up inheriting a after my wife's mother passed away back in two thousand seven. I thought it was two thousand nine but she said nope. We have had greta for longer than her. Mom had greta and we've had her for twelve years and <hes> her mom had well. Greta was like nineteen years old almost twenty twenty years old and her health. I ventured at many times last. Few months has been kind of taking up a nosedive so so to speak and mostly blind mostly incontinent mostly deaf and you know not much living much of a life and <hes> we learned last checkup that <hes> she had lost a lot of weight and she was probably in pain because of the dehydration and the lack of eating and that kind of thing and then finally only the decision was made <hes> that we should put her down so sadly <hes> she <hes> is no longer with us and and if there is a doggy heaven hopefully she'll be in doggy heaven so no no more greta a very sad thing for the family. I'm sure i used to be when i heard a yipping in the background and you had to rush off upstairs. Going let are out again. Stays on now but you know honestly honestly she was <hes> quite a handful to take care of as you can imagine and so in a certain way you know we're it's kind of a it's a nice thing that i think she's you. You know in in a better place now. She's not in pain and and it's easier for everybody here as well. You know as far as not having to take care of her or anymore so absolutely it's often a very hard decision but it's also from the best <unk> yeah yeah and i know you've had to deal with this kind of thing as well. Well this past year absolutely ross. It was easy yeah all right moving onto news item seaver seve word is really cracking on with these things. This is some <hes> positive some some happy news you know we talked about on the last show. It was breaking news in fact the <hes> the miracle on the cornfield. We're calling it <hes> the twin engine <hes> flame out of the three twenty one and they crashed in the cornfield successfully and <hes> no. Nobody was killed in this incident. <hes> this news item from the new zealand herald dot co dot new zealand and russian president vladimir putin on friday awarded the nation's highest medal hero of russia to the pilot who manage to smoothly land his disabled passenger plane in cornfield after a flock of birds hit both engines and knocked them out the experienced captain forty one year old demere yusupov said friday. Hey that a quick landing was his only chance and he was not afraid of handling it. He said he had hoped to circle the airport and land normally when one engine shutdown due to the bird strike moments moments after takeoff from moscow's jurkowski airport but then his second engine cut off moments later leaving him no choice he landed his euro airlines line three twenty one so gently in the head. Hi corn that just one of the two hundred and thirty three people on board was hospitalized. People all across russia have hailed <hes> yusupov as a hero. The accolades he said were embarrassing feels odd and i'm shy he said putin also awarded the hero of russia to the airplane second pilot twenty-three-year-old gregory <hes> a note georgi murzyn and bestowed other top awards awards on the plane's cabin crew. I didn't feel any fear again. This is the captain quoted. He told reporters in a televised interview. I saw <hes> cornfield ahead hope to make a reasonably soft landing. I tried to lower vertical speed to make the plane lands muesli as possible and clyde softly yusubov hailed his cabin happened crew who managed to evacuate the passengers. The also apologized to passengers for failing to get them to their destination which was very concerned about sorry. I didn't really i mean that was what i was supposed to do. Get you to some federal poll or did you call it s- murph some reports smith out in the crimea. I wish i quick recovery to all those injured and i wish them not to be afraid of flying. He added now. This sounds like a really nice guy doesn't it it does it was concerned about you know wanting to ever get back on an airplane. I don't know about you but i'm thinking if i'm on an airplane that crashes i'm thinking what are the chances of that happening thing again remind you i see it but a video some blake being struck by lightning three-ton remind that i wouldn't mention it to the people that were on this airplane probably not a good. Let's see the emergencies. Ministry said seventy four people asked for medical assistance after the landing health authorities said twenty-three people were taken to the hospital but all but one was released following the checkups <hes>. Let's see yusubov was the son john of a helicopter pilot. He worked as a lawyer before he changed course and joined a flight school. When he was thirty two. He has flown with euro airline. Since his graduation nation. In two thousand thirteen logging over three thousand flight hours he became a captain last year and this sounds very similar to the time line of <hes> <hes> someone we know in our a._p. G. community <hes> captain craig right didn't he absolutely he graduated from college twenty twelve and just a a couple of months or last month became captain for his regional airline and <hes> yeah that's that's cool <hes> so that even happens wins over there in russia for people people get the bug they quit a promising mid career mid life career and go for a flying job yeah definitely i should greg idea and if they're in else out that with a pretty boring profession who was turned the handle aviation. Don't leave it too late but thirty two is <hes> is built two hundred yep okay well. The article goes on to talk about <hes> a former member of the us national transportation safety board <hes> john goglia godly said the bird versus engine problem has been under study for years with no permanent fix available yet. He said a cornfield was a good place to land because it's free a big rocks and trees that could have damaged the play. I mean yeah. I really can't think of much better unprepared landing surface to land upon them a some kind of them crop like <hes> like a corn field or something like that absolutely and they've been some indication that the birds were flocking around unauthorized dommage dumps near the airport others flocking birds saudi gonna do absolutely horrible things so i'm sure they sort that out too sweet. Oh yeah i'm sure they'll be right on that well. In the short term they definitely will but they should yeah exactly right but i mean they are a problem and and whether they could feel near an estry or <hes> that just passing through and that's often the way with the big migrating flunk slang at the kennedy suit garb down the u._k. And they're starting to head north already you know and they usually around thousand fifteen hundred feet. They can be a rail problem pie though madman who very needed austria's time to money in just a bunch of geese onshore finals but he managed to get the runway so well. I'm walter is now very good. <hes> camped him with british airways. No good all right <hes> moving on autumn d <hes> a delta seven fifty seven two hundred at ponta delgada on august eighteenth two thousand nineteen gene hard touchdown causes creases visa launch <hes> this is from the aviation herald and simon rat radetsky or a decky <hes>. Let's see it was flight four fourteen from new york j._f._k. To ponta delgada in portugal landed on ponta delgada 's runway twelve <hes> this is in the azores believe <hes> suffered a hard touchdown. The aircraft rolled out and taxied to the apron. There were no injuries. The aircraft sustained substantial damage however and there are some photos here of the seven fifty seven with the very large wrinkled skin creasing and the fuselage and you know i'm not an aviation fuselage expert but <hes> looks to me like this might be yet for this airframe. I i don't know i guess maybe that's something that they can. They can <hes> fix. I'm not sure though while whether it's going to be economic that's the problem blah yeah. They can fix almost any airplane if they throw enough money at it but i'd end about the age they're crafter not what it's worth is now but <hes> that sorta order damages in the indicative of a major airframe <hes> major structural damage so yeah you don't get type two creases and falls in the skin light that without something severe <hes> having occurred underneath so. I think you're right jeff. I think that will probably louis strip the parts and it may well end up being <hes> something the fine can practice on or maybe <hes> beer cans yeah yeah. Oh i'm sure if you <hes> if you look at that website that sells you bits of aeroplane. You'll fail to see <hes> <hes> some fifty seven two hundred. They're a by some of the skin and as a back tank they go. That's possible looking at the weather conditions there. <hes> let's say first of all <hes> eight thirty eight z that would be probably early in the morning for that flight. Would it be <hes> <hes> yes. It would have been in the morning but not a not a conditions i would consider <hes> difficult on the wind varying a little bit of wind really on each twelve knots mainly across steady and no sign <hes> assent scattered <hes> tea or is that supposed to be scattered <hes> yeah gutter the houses scattered up full. I felt for many it might be tiring but it's certainly there's no mention of any cumulus nimbus or anything about oh no build up so i would have said that straightly benign <hes> but it sounds to me like it might have been the hanley problem yeah yeah puch. There was a fault with the aircraft that you never know but anyway <hes> nothing really stands out to us as far as extreme weather conditions here. You're not going back to the <hes> you know. The the possibility of you know whether that airframe is going to be used again or repaired or scrapped apt <hes> i guess maybe another consideration would be whether or not it ruptured any of the pressure bulkheads of the airplane and that that's the case. I hear that that's pretty much. It's the death knell yeah yeah that will most certainly you don't really want to <hes> i. I hate to think of flying in a plane with a re pad bad about had because <hes> you know you think of the accidents that have occurred and <hes> years down the road with that crowd that <hes> whether pressure bulkhead specially especially fatigue found someone awfully accident so i'm supposed if they do everything fine and boeing a pretty good at that sort of thing now they'll come up with a fix if they want one but the other thing is <hes> you know who's going to go out there to fix it <hes> it's it's not like it's near a major maintenance centers. May why not be even worthwhile sending the guys out right look at this. It's a lobster eater. Yes you hear that music that means for my side studio in south carolina. She's a doctor skydiver. Grammarian runners strength training junkie v._a. Connoisseur and commercial multi engine instrument rated pilot. We know her as dr stuff. Hey guys good to see you. Thanks for thanks for waiting to start the show for me. You're welcome probably the start of the show. I'm right on time. I would not be here on time to come on now. We've planted that way right. I know i'm just feel bad. I'm good. I'm good just finished up with work and looking forward to relaxing and not doing work for a couple of days to excellent excellent. Hey as anything unusual or interesting happened with you. Let's say between now and the the last time we recorded the show last thursday. I don't think so okay well then. Let's move on with item. <hes> beyond say yeah well you know we had some issues some technical issues with this <hes> new <hes> streaming service that were experimenting with and but luckily hey we can hear her today. So that's good of course it was you were you were <hes> panelists number four last time so hopefully <hes> you you know who knows what what's going on but don't be number four. You don't be nosy but i can hear you just just fine and see you just fine and that's that's good that's <hes> so we are having issues with adding staff but honestly we weren't gonna have stuff on with very long anyway because she was busy and final preparation for this big trip that she was undertaking and <hes>. I'm assuming that that it all happened and wanted you. Tell us about it. I'd be happy to i did put out a couple crew logs. I have one left to do to kind of tie it all up but i might get to that a couple of years from now. Three croutons were public. You're like alum never see one for years and then three come along wanted wanted. Hey take what you can get pointing out. Yes this was a kind of <hes> just a funny thing to do something to do. <hes> for a long time my dad and i have been going back and forth between <hes> who will be the first person to put their feet on the ground in all fifty states and for a very long time. He's been in the lead <hes> by quite a bit. He has only had the state of hawaii for the past several years. They actually needed to get to which doesn't sound that difficult but hawaii's a long way from the east coast of the united states so <hes> finally he <hes> the opportunity came up then he books booked a flight and i said okay <hes> where does that leave me in this race. Oh i still have eleven states to get to now honestly at that point said there are absolutely no way that i could pass god okay you win <hes> <hes> or whatever not stuff never never say never never surrender never die now so i started looking like well all right well. They're kind of all in a row. I and they in a row. I mean all the way across the country that was organs sort of idaho montana north and south dakota oklahoma kansas mississippi kentucky west virginia and maine. Get them all set eleven. Do that include arkansas' no. I've already been to arkansas okay fair enough. Arkansas' is the different yes. I've been to little rock for a conference actually but one of close <hes> so yeah the goal is to get it done in a weekend because he was arriving in hawaii on sunday evening. I think local time in hawaii at the time he arrived was like seven twenty year seven fifty pm which is like one twenty year one fifty in the morning the next day here on the east coast so that was was my deadline so i left here <hes> almost immediately after i talked to you guys on thursday last week and i took a flight out to portland oregon which i assigned was going to be my starting point and then the the following day had a series of flights that took me to bite aho montana and north dakota with intermediate stops through seattle and salt lake city get from one of those states to the very easily without going through kind of a major city and once i got to north dakota i rented a car and drove to south dakota and back just to say they're just about an hour's drive each direction and spent the night in fargo. North dakota got up the next morning. Another series of flights went the two that took me to a ultimately wichita and memphis occupy went. Wait stuff memphis tennessee. That's not a state that you need to go to that so to get to wichita had to go through denver so i had a nice little stopover in denver got to wichita which is in kansas kansas which was one of the states. I needed same thing as like in north and south dakota rented a car drove to oklahoma turnaround my back to the airport in wichita and then i was going to go to memphis which is actually very close to the border of mississippi and also arkansas or or kansas as nick lake seagal. I didn't go to arkansas' her arkansas. <hes> flew from wichita through dallas to get to memphis and my plan from there was to rent a car hard drive south across the border into mississippi drive overnight through part of <hes> tennessee all of kentucky and into west virginia virginia. Excuse me i was going to go as far as huntington west virginia to catch another flight which would ultimately take me to maine via charlotte and got off the plane in memphis and found that my flight from huntington west virginia to charlotte had been cancelled though that was not a good thing do so <hes> which airline cancelled your flight american airlines boo do probably have sure which regional regional for sure and i don't remember which one doesn't matter so anyway and they they said well no worries. We've already <hes> saved you a seat on this other flight if you would like it leaving from charleston west virginia going through d._c. And getting to portland maine at like four thirty in the afternoon on sunday well. Let's not really ideal because i have plans in maine. My bait plans to meet up with mica who lives in portland. It's been the day with him. <hes> do some sightseeing around town up some of the athol mentioned lobster. The nice local beers like well if i get there at four thirty i'll have time to catch is my flight back home but not enough time to do anything so i started looking real quick. This is all we're like taxiing to the gate and before i even get off the plane i see that there's a flight <music> out of charleston west virginia at the same time as my original flight was supposed to leave out of huntington which is like five thirty in the morning except that i'd given myself take time to drive to huntington. Charleston is like another hour east well to calm vassar. Ask the other problem so i was supposed to return the rental car to huntington west virginia so like well okay well. This is only gonna work. If i can take the car to charleston instead of huntington that was originally a one way rental one way rental correct the rental car counter. I said hi <hes> i ever relation. They need to make a change and the guy goes. Oh are you taking it out of state and i was like yeah and he's like no no. No you have to stop taking it out of state. I'm not changing the state. I just need to change the city so we can do that and then it was like geography lesson for this poor kid trying to get him to know where charleston west virginia was look at my come from america yeah the poor poor immigrant now when you say say like charleston in this country most people think of south carolina carolina and then add only editors confusion because i handed him my driver's license which says south carolina i know he was very unsure where i was trying to go for a few moments there but we got it all squared away okay. I really don't have time. He's he's like how about this car is like that's fine. I don't even think that's what i rented but i don't care. I don't have time to argue this like up to get in the car. Go <hes> so did that made my stop in mississippi and that i was like okay. I've got just under eight hours and i'm looking at the time like that. Puts me there like an hour before. My flight leaves barely if i don't stop but i'm going to have to stop because i'm gonna need gas. I'm going to need like of his illogic break. I'm sure i'm not gonna eat apparently i. It's like stop. Stop in <hes>. Where was i going to stop somewhere in tennessee nashville. Maybe get food tossed. Those plans would go into the biscuit gravy breakfast place. We went to the nashville biscuit company like like eight o'clock at night nine o'clock at night twenty four hours a day. Okay fair enough though but <hes> long story short i've made it <hes> shoutout to <hes> dispatcher mike for he was at work. She chatted me for a while during that drive which was very helpful and awake <hes> because i'll tell you what most of that drive in kentucky was along the bluegrass parkway which is different than the blue ridge parkway and they were not a lot of vehicles out there from the hours of eleven p._m. To about three a._m. Little quiet very quiet while nice kid you could do one hundred and fifty miles an hour because there's still plenty the of state troopers all along way counters people also. I was really terrified about hitting wildlife because i passed lots and lots of deer. You're not too far from the side of the road. There was no speeding it did drive right very good speed limit and got to charleston west virginia returning. The car was a breeze because there was no in there to actually talk to because they weren't open yet but just left the car in the parking lot. Put the keys on the key box got to the <hes> the t._s._a. Check in and it looked like there was only one line it wasn't terribly long but it wasn't moving okay and then after standing in line for like take three or four minutes i was on one of the <hes> wasn't even a t._s._a. Officer it was <hes> was it just like some security personnel and the airport. It was like oh by the way there is a t._i. Way pre check line way over here that you can't see from where you are if you have pre checked and i was the only person that moved great well excellent <hes> see i've made my flight. No problem promptly passed out. Don't remember any of that. Flight spent a couple of hours in the charlotte airport which was great because i just dropped my bags back at my car and then i went back to the lounge out a nice comfy chair slept for a couple hours got on my next slate and spent the rest of the day in portland named with mica eighteen lobsters. <hes> you know what i think. We might have actually some audio regarding that sure okay here. We go well. There's only one way to start this and i've gotta tell all a._p. Listeners that dr steph has a great eight piece of tail. Okay let me explain that. I'll let steph explain that i think you're referring to the three lobster tails that i just consumed absolutely positively. You just managed to do it. I think you may have even outperformed our good friend. Captain al you have eaten three entire entire. Lobsters plus plus a few of the clamps. I didn't quite get through all of them but i had to try them. I mean i'm here. I'm in maine might as well right absolutely absolutely and you should just take a bite of the corn just to say you had to complete thing. I will do that definitely so yes. It's dr steph and it's your main man. Mike and we are here at ocean farms here in gore main the scene of the crime. We're dana and i last met and now where i have brought dr staff. Who is is a lobster eater extraordinaire yes to be fair though i have never had authentic maine lobster like this before it's always been in a hesitate to even say in here like red lobster or better legal seafood <hes> but not necessarily not these same experience at all this is this was very special and wonderful and thank you very much for the recommendation and bringing me here or fortunately the restaurant is pretty close to empty so that no one has heard you say that but lobster is very much like surgery surgery. Did you notice it's see one. Do one teach one and now you're ready to teach it absolutely is <hes> it was definitely an educational experience for for me because as i mentioned my previous even though it was fairly extensive <hes> lobster experience has all been at <hes> prepared for you establishments schmidt's and this is definitely the authentic deal where you just have the lobster and yourself and you got to figure it out now just one last thing because this is going to be very short short but what we really need to say what you're doing in maine and what does mean mean to you in terms of the number fifty so main gene. Oh i was gonna say something about being last place here but that's not fair at all. Let's let's rephrase showy. <hes> knows head to do with a little trip. I took this weekend in an attempt to put my feet on the ground in the eleven states that i had not yet been too so i started <hes> three and a half days ago thursday evening in portland portland oregon that other portland maybe we perhaps should not say anything else about and ended here today in portland maine with you and it's so wonderful call the c._u. And it's only been a few hours but we've had a great experience glad to be able to watch you eat some lobster which we have some photos of. We don't know if jeff will use them or not but we'll we'll certainly send them to him and thanks so much for coming to visit our absolute pleasure. Thank you so much for having the <hes> making the time to <hes> show me around today and for a few hours of good conversation and <hes> we'll have to do it again some time because this was not nearly enough time to catch up and enjoy each other's company and hopefully we will so as i sign out specifically for pilot pip this is you're not creepy main man mica citing off. Eh and it's dr staff for the airline pilot now. He's just dallas. That's all tied. Oh that i love that was to say things. She's going to have to press the button. You mean that mute button. It's shows up in a different different place on this new stream yard. I mean to be fair. It's like right in front of me but i'm looking for in the corner. It's just too easy now. That was a wonderful time and again my thanks to mike oh for joy me round and for <hes> accompanying me will i had to try the authentic maine lobsters and we had a very nice. I saw the picture there was from a local brewery could bears good i._p. Excellent stree- loftus them with butter or what now well i mean there is butter on the side like melted butter that you could dipper spread on slide down <hes>. I'm sorry i i hope i hope that you use that melted butter a little bit older. I mean you really the the lobster itself is so good. You don't really need to add much to it. Oh good point so there's only i've yet to do. I would love to <hes>. I think jillian. I will probably head out that way one day because i think it'd be a lovely idea. Well we know somebody. That's a very gracious hospitable post a really yeah. I can't think of his uh-huh lives up in that area somewhere. I can highly recommend genesis not creepy mica definitely not creepy <hes> <hes> something else. Oh i was gonna say my dad did make it to hawaii. Okay here either loved too late. She cried. I almost feel bad. I'd like a little bit so now what would have kept him from if it were me if i were your house. You just left a couple of days. That's what i've changed my plans in. Oh you're going to beat me. I'll leave on thursday or friday. Instead of sunday did not divulge my plans in advance saw i would've figured it out. What doesn't he listen to the beach hurley. Not that'll teach you well. I mean i did have sitting yeah. My <hes> apparently did not venture into my office which sometimes he does because there's filing cabinets and stuff up here <hes> by nort went but i did have like little scraps of paper where i had been writing down flight numbers and times you probably somewhere we're here. We're headed like albritton out. We'll do wonder where you were like on thursday night friday. You're not there all day because what he had done. He left earlier in the week because he made it kind of more of a road tripped out west see some family members for a couple of days so he was not here or you see i would have given you a full state. When i was going to arrive a hawaii okay and you had more time and then i'll just pitch up and go <hes> in the competition starts again though because now he is officially been to one more more hawaiian island than i have to now behind again to hawaii to island kadian provinces than i have his landed at more countries more countries yeah yeah. They're more competitions to be head. Don't worry well. We know you stuff. There's always a competition to be happy. I'm kind of glad. I'm not part of your family coat with this. Oh it's it's all in good fun abigail hiber you win. If anyone reviews of <hes> you know <hes> airline experiences. There's i flew three different airlines multiple different aircraft types and feel like i should do a doing his passenger experience thing anymore. I don't think he is do on like 737. Cr j nine hundred zero two hundred zero. Seven hundred did fly on an m._d. Eighty-eight brilliant well. I hope it was a good experience. Yes there was good. I think down the back with the noise frontal as a finding whisper quiet yes yeah well done brilliant congratulations anyway. I suppose either either that many but in the united states who've actually managed to do what you've achieved is not as common as you thank. Although some people <hes> their definition of to visit a state is some more different than you know just the geographical put your feet across the border type of thing rest assured i'll probably go back to most of those places at some point see more stuff good even our kansas. I saw enough in arkansas. It's a beautiful state action. It is actually an actually one of my very good friends and actually my very first flight instructor. They live north of arkansas. <hes> <hes> and i've been meaning to go visit them north little arcs. Maybe that way up that way yeah yeah. It looks like beautiful. Area royals will excellent. Were were so happy that you <hes> won the challenge and you're you're safe and sound and you didn't kill yourself trying to beat your father now now. All the appropriate safety precautions were taken. I'm not sure what they were but excellence one speeding ticket. We're impressed. Nope okay shall we. We didn't really have a big intro segment. We were kind of waiting for you and all the cool stuff that you did and we started to say a little bit <hes> <hes> tobacco. I don't remember how much of this i talked about in the crew logs because i did most of those at like one o'clock in the morning after travelling all day so if i'm recuperating rejuvenating myself here apologized but if you're ever in if you ever find yourself with extra time in the billings montana airport you should leave the airport go across the street into the yellowstone county museum kind of an interesting little quirky place with free admission and nice way to spend a little bit time and i think there was something else i want to say but now i can't remember what was the most i mean of the eleven states that you went to know that we have people probably listening from most if not all <hes> which which one was your favorite oh this dangerous territory feared well the little of an unfair question because i didn't spend equal time in all of those places <hes> right you know certainly the highlight light was spending. A little bit of time in maine with with mica and portland was absolutely gorgeous. We saw a couple of different lighthouses. <hes> the town is really cute friendly. The people <hes> good food good beer can't beat any of that so cancun true all right well. Are you ready to move on then to weird started the news folder believable. I've been listening to circa. I'm caught up all right right. <hes> i think we were just about we just finished talking about the seven fifty seven that had the hard landing in the azores and you're trying to decide whether we thought it was going to be able to fly again or if the if it's going to be totaled airframe pictures don't look they. They don't want it now. Looks <hes> not promising anyway. We can move on to item. E plane erupts in flames flames after a failed takeoff at oracle airport and that's an <hes> a believe northern california yeah <hes> cessna cessna husna <hes> five sixty x l citation excel suffered a runway excursion after an aborted takeoff at oroville airport in california a fire broke out in the grass besides aircraft after all ten occupants have been evacuated <hes> or had evacuated the aircraft the fire spread and engulfed the aircraft was being operated by delta private jets and <hes> you know one of the news articles here kind of makes that sound like the the the reason why they stopped the the the takeoff was because it was on fire but i think that the fire came about as a result of the aboard aborted takeoff gough and subsequent runway excursion and looked very very dry up there <hes> the pictures that i saw so in if you have some hot breaks aches i can imagine it would be very easy to start the grass fire and eventually you know engulf the airplane and fire as well l. but we're not sure exactly yet. They're still doing the investigation but the good news is that all of the passengers made it off the airplane and including cluding <hes> the <hes> the pilots <hes> as well so no no fatalities on this when i say important. Didn't it really i. I mean losing. The aircraft is a real shame. I must've meant when i saw the video <hes> i was thinking to myself although safety personnel though there and everything around them the grass is on fire does not i. She looked very a safe area to be so <hes>. I'm assuming dale and managed to get away from the area without any injuries. Sir sir i guess well handled <hes> but not nice to have uh-huh runway excursion on then have a big five spread of not just around the aircraft that goes around the surrounding area of the few yeah so again <hes> no idea yet <hes> why the pilots made the decision to abort the takeoff but <hes> <hes> i think the the airplane claim was pretty much destroyed <hes> and hopefully we'll learn something from this after the investigation by the way <hes> just an update on the other <hes> citation incident was a landing incident the one involving <hes> the race car junior yeah dale jr. <hes> up in <hes> elizabethtown <hes> tennessee <hes>. I guess there are some surveillance wants video that shows that the airplane came down <hes> and touchdown a ride around the landing threshold area bounced once bounce twice and then on the third bounce it <hes> the right main gear collapsed. The right wingtip hit the runway. I think it was only about a thousand feet from the end of the runway. At that point ended up excursion you you know doing an excursion of down embankment up an embankment through <hes> some chain link fence and a lot more so <hes> it was must have been quite wider ride and luckily everybody got out of that alive but <hes> still no no indication of why <hes> they they suffered the the the bad bounce victimizing how often those bounce landings of mishandled a <hes> people try to salvage <hes> situation when the aircraft is now in a while back up in the air again at a much lower speed than it was when it made the first arrival <hes> and very few so winning at that point to go while i need pilots around from him because that's anyway anyway. We're going to salvage the situation surprising how many position trying to make a bad situation goodbye trying to make a second landing quite obviously you're a lot safer could in the power on getting the airplane flying again. I think there was something in the narrative about the tried to go round after the second best after the second so now that for the first one but after the second tried to were unable to do so successfully and how they made the attempt on the first you know after the first balanced perhaps they would have been more successful at least a pile of cush cushion the second bound so they ain't gonna minded gutless list i mean all right and then now finally item f- in our news folder <hes> this again from from the aviation herald and simon <hes> decky <hes> this was something that occurred on the sixteenth of august and n- maasai mauri mariah masai mara somewhere in africa. I think it's the maasai mara is is located generally prasada howlin maasai mara okay maasai mara and <hes> kenya leave and it was a havilland dash eight two hundred registration five yankees era lima mike performing scheduled scheduled flight number one from nairobi wilson to masai mara ki ki schwa- tembo landed at <hes> keach wa timbo airstrip in westerly direction at about eleven o'clock local time but collided with a number of news which are also known as tastes good news while these are world willoughby so good news and wildebeest. We'll do you knew guy go new new. I would've said you i i so. I knew that going to well now. I don't know you know. I think we have some audio from the from the area. <hes> let me see if somebody was had a field recorder shortly after for this accident i i the gun nights good nature in resume so apparently it's canoe. That's that's from one of the news on the scene that actually wasn't killed the unlucky one and then he felt like bursting into song about it yeah well. You know. I didn't really say what happened here. Did i yet <hes> yeah well. We talked about the strike strike on the landing or new strike. <hes> caused the left main gear to collapse in separate from aircraft. The left propeller impacted the ground ejecting one blade. The aircraft veered off the runway one way there were no injuries i beg to differ. The aircraft sustains central damage another just sleeping. Those are just sleeping often that they included the pictures of the <hes> no. I guess i didn't mean to include that. Did i have not had a picture of the news uh-huh well anyway but it's nice to see the time tracks didn't to upset them too much right anyway no human injuries or fatalities. Unfortunately there was a loss of two of these beasts <hes> as i sat in my the title of this news item i knew it to the damage to the plane to. I didn't do it all right at the show. This week could be going to it. You want it to be it. Yeah i can with a canoe okay. Let's do it don't use the poor deceased once. Please live canoes. They're okay with that. I guess now it's time for us to move onto your feedback. The incoming message a right item one from brett fry remember we we met brett fry at oshkosh. She's a producer of the a._p. G. and <hes> let's see he's hey there. It was great to be able to meet you all at oshkosh this this year. It's fun to see the reactions of the first time visitors <hes> like you were this year l. k. so it was interesting for just to see the reactions from those of us who had never experienced oshkosh before so <hes> he's when i was working slash volunteering in the south forty parking working airplanes we had a great view of all the aircraft arriving on rome with three six including when the c five arrived. I had only heard brief comments the next morning about this fire that they had on the c. fives breaks after landing <hes> there is a video in this link that shows the event as we all know there are many incidents and events that occur each year at oshkosh and it seems that nothing is out of view of some recording device and then he gave us a link to an adult web article goal which has the recording in it and we'll put that in the show notes for you all to see and basically <hes> it's taken from the vantage there's point of the nose <hes> area of the airplane <hes> pointed back and it looks like the one of the right main <hes> wheel assemblies assemblies on the c five got a little bit warm and was on fire and fire truck arrived in sprayed it in put it out and so apparently <hes> they say that it it wasn't too extensive because the c five continued to go on static display there at the show so apparently they weren't too concerned. It must not have done a lot of damage no but we were <hes> there were a few of us who are waiting for the <hes> the the short takeoff landing showed up and they had to and they ended up canceling that portion of the show because the fire rescue. You folks were tied up with this incident. This is what was happening. Then whatever night that was thursday night which was ashamed because we've made <hes> <hes> there's a long walk yeah it was. I guess yeah okay the next night. I went back on friday night and saw the short on that will twice. It was way too far for an old man. What a mile hike. It is immoral activities. It was a mile from the bus stop yeah. I'll give you that g._p._s. Data from from my watch kids i was kind of interesting because we were sitting around for a while and we didn't really know why they were delaying from the start of the short takeoff landing competition where you watched a bunch of guys with flying lawnmowers mos- kind of fun that was amazing actually with how little powered parachutes that thing is that was neat and then after that they had the <hes> the r._c. Models out there doing crazy things. Get mad skills very old very it professionals yes. They brent was nice. Meeting you up at oshkosh hope to see you again sometime in the future and thanks for being a producer the show <hes> i'd number two from ham radio jim. He's also producer <hes> he says. I thought you'd all find this interesting especially captain nick this is ben so far my only life experience with g aircraft. I had a ride in a piper cub when i was ten years old out of maddock airport. Only one north dome were that is nil denver is ask around the globe to on one november. Oh okay. I don't hello what does that mean. It's g airports <hes>. It's a long island east hampton. Okay or wait gotcha. That's the name of the airport so it'd be left kilo to one of new york long island okay long. I long island where they drink. Tea is on long island. You don't want to drink too much long island. I mean yeah the ici that'll get to you pretty quickly <hes> anyway <hes> he says seventy-three jim <hes> whiskey to november sierra foxtrot and i'm not a ham radio guys who can't come back atra jim with my call sign seventy. Three's means <hes> <hes> in <hes> goodbye and good wishes and that's his coal. Yeah what's yours. <hes> mike von johnny beck uniform and one sikh you okay seventy three's and he sent a link to a show <hes> something like the history guy or something like that <hes> a the gentleman who does youtube videos on various things in history and this one happens to be on the venerable piper cub and so i will put that link in the show notes for you all to watch it if you so yeah took a look at that very professional very impressed nice play and the he great speaking voice and but sal the good show but <hes> he's. I think he's got a fairly professional team that helps him out. I may wrong because it does seem very well produced and he wears a bowtie yeah. That's why isn't it. That's very professional if it it wouldn't go with my teasha but i take whereby ties lots of neurologists is that right i the vans people live tied dipping into the brain. It makes this. That's the neurosurgeon. I think there are a little different but said okay. I don't know it seems to be a fashionable amongst them. Ni- i think a neurologist same deal with people who are a bit <hes> oh i i shouldn't go there sean really i'll start right now. We'll do it tutorial after the show about what neurologists do and who they take all the people that would grab hold of their a ties and try and strangle them no okay so i can't see why they would wear bow ties then nick getting angry feedback from dot com. I'm just making an observation. Just i know the number of neurologists they all all seem to favor the bowtie very spooky looking yeah all right moving on autumn number three kevin jeff. You've inspired me to start my own aviation youtube channel and it's called many aircrash investigation where i analyze is an aircrash or incident on each episode since you flew the l. ten eleven. I'm sure you'd love the story about an l. Ten eleven crew that landed a crippled l. Ten eleven let let me know what you think so he did send us a link to his youtube channel many aircrash investigation and he has several videos already and he only started a few months back and let me play a little snippet of this one that he thinks i might be interested in hey. This is the story of delta airlines flight ten eighty. This is the story the of bravery skill determination and outstanding airmanship flight ten eighty begins on the ground at san diego international airport on the twelfth of april april nineteen seventy seven today there were flying and that's a little snippet for you and if you want to this is a very good story by the way and yes we knew all about it <hes> those of us who flew the l. ten eleven. This is one of those things that they tell us about while we're in training now back in nineteen seventy seven april i was getting. I'm very that was like the last month of my high school. I graduated in may of nineteen seventy seven so obviously i didn't hear about this. <hes> i don't recall hearing anything about this <hes> when i was in high school but <hes> <hes> several years back but it is a great story sorry and thank you for telling it run and check out all the other great videos. He has on his youtube channel many air crash investigation instigation. Let's move on item for from craig who is also a producer coffee fund qadri member. I crew any thoughts on how an airliner roughed up by. Severe hailstorm could be repaired in the field or was it possibly just a matter of inspection and end sign off until it could be returned to a hub clear skies until wins montana's craig. This is chris roman from missoula and he it gives us a link to this article. <hes> storm damages commercial planes at billings airport in this is from the billings gazette was just there. Oh that's right that. Did you see the airplane damaged airplane there while you were there no okay. It was a lovely nice day not a cloud in the sky. Oh okay okay. <hes> you know that that are there that airport i've been into and out of many many times is up sits up on top of a plateau yeah little bluff area or bluff. I guess <hes> frontier and alaska airlines both had planes damage by the hailstorm that battered much of the region on sunday evening. Both planes were supposed to the juicy. I've highlighted that that's an f. Journalist there that misspelled small town. It's both planes were supposed with with a d to depart sunday night instead they were roughed up enough by the hail and wind that crews were required to keep them grounded overnight while they repaired the damage. Judge said kevin clone billings airport administrator. The alaska airlines plane was repaired early enough on monday that it was able to depart by the afternoon crews. We're hoping to repair the frontier aircraft in time to get back in the air by monday night. The storm moved through the area at about seven pm sunday and left a wide swath of damage fallen trees and branches knocked out power to about fifteen hundred residents and emergency crews responded to a car wreck in the heights reports of people trapped in an elevator anyway it goes was on tells a little bit more about the damage of this storm caused but the thing that we're concerned about here or what craig is concerned about and pilots should be concerned about this as well <hes> the hail damage. What do you do when you're jet is damaged by hail on. Is it really possible to repair it and i would say yes <hes> they go out and and do a full inspection and any areas that have been a significantly damaged. Now you know you might see some some little dense here and there that may not be something that a mechanic would consider significant as far as affecting airworthiness but there are and i don't know what the what the parameters are as far as you know how a big of a indentation is required or where like if it's on this part of the wing. It's okay but it's on the leading edge of the wing probably not <hes>. I don't know all the details tales about that may be a air maintenance technician listening to the show might have more detail about that or may be one of the <hes> fellow house here might know something about <hes> that sort of thing that <hes> yes <hes>. They're not just paying lip service to repairing these things. Are they really do require <unk>. A full inspection and repair is necessary. They have to do it. I believe unless i get some kind of special permit like a fairy permit or something to you. Fly the airplane back to a maintenance base but yeah it's already show they will have very specific <hes> size diameter of the indentation depth position in <hes> in their <hes> requirements <hes> and they will measure those very carefully mark them are locate them on now. The configuration in deviation list are so that they can be inspected on further flights <hes> and each one will be individually measured checked and what they often do they get seven little guys with hamas who come out turned they fix their pilot in the singing a a whole and they're always very happy to go to work and they get on the inside there and they tough out all the little dents and they're fixed and off you get no idea idea that it was the southern dorks excel hail damage. How long were you waiting for that. That was awesome elite license engineer so she knows all about that stuff. Seven guys and hamburgers and there's going to be a rewrite of that story now uh-huh the mine dried out. What are they gonna do. They know it just got me thinking. I wonder how often stuff like this really happens. Especially some of these airports like billings or even denver <hes> storms with significant hail happened quite often in that part of the country and that's that's a pretty busy airport with lots of aircraft and <hes> yeah. It's a good question craig how long it takes to <hes> fix that kind of damage and get those aircraft turned back around so they can continue to operate flights. Apparently is my car. I'd wanna get fix by might dealer pretty quickly but it goes an airplane's made much much tougher stuff. It's aluminium instead of stale so an air dynamics on your car or not quite as important as the aerodynamics on airplane yeah. He's all the downforce. He can get on his most most. I can say oh. This reminds me of an incident that occurred several years back at acme airlines where <hes> the f._a._a. Was trying to pull a captain's opens certificate because he was out at a place. I don't know let's say oklahoma city. I'm not sure if that was it or not but somewhere in the midwest they had a a significant storm run through the night before there was some hail and he did a preflight inspection of the airplane airplane and was satisfied that there wasn't any hail damage however he didn't look at the top of the tail of the airplane that we fly it was a <hes> i think it was a seven twenty-seven in this case a t tail <hes> which would require a cherry picker or some kind of a vehicle that has like a crane kind of thing that gets you high enough up so you can actually inspect the top surfaces of a detailed airplane and <hes> he didn't wasn't able to do that or didn't arrange for it or whatever and when he got back to atlanta <hes> apparently the f._a._a. Gone involved and basically said that he flu or potentially flew on air. Were the or potentially airworthy airplane <hes> and everybody was like were really. I mean how's was. He supposed to know you know so. How are you supposed to. I mean here's a hypothetical question but say you're at a small airport. That doesn't have equipment like that. You know way to assess it looked at everything else and it looks okay but you go all no. I'm not gonna do it until the company or the airport or someone gets the appropriate equipment out here. That seems reasonable to me to if you if you're inspecting everything else that you can actually see and i think it would be reasonable to assume assume that <hes> that surface would not be damaged as well <hes> but and that's what we were all thinking at the time thinking well okay that doesn't make a lot of sense <hes> apparently apparently <hes> the union lawyers got involved in the company. Actually <hes> defended the pump the captain in this case and anyway. It's one of those things that really ah makes me think every time i go out to an airplane in i know aura here that there was some kind of a big storm the night before and <hes> the thing that's also. I'm very the thing that i'm also very sensitive about is <hes> the damage to the control tabs on the elevators of the of the mad dog because we've we've talked about in the last couple of years a couple of incidents involving <hes> the control tabs and damages to the control rods that control the control tabs on the elevator elevator and how you know they're in a couple different cases where either the airplane wasn't rotating for takeoff and another case the airplane was rotating before the crew <hes> called for it and both involved damaged control tabs <hes> for the elevator system so when somebody tells me that the there was there's a lot of win the night before or i know that there has been a lot of wind the night before <hes> for instance just a few months back i think my first officer probably thought it was it's crazy but <hes> we were in wichita and it was a very very high wind kind of a of that storm that went through and thinking that the you know in the back of my mind i was thinking of these incidents where there was some damage that one in no willow grove <hes> michigan near ann arbor with the michigan basketball team and and and pep band and other people affiliated with it. We're heading from ann arbor or <hes> willow grove airport to <hes>. I think it was washington d._c. Where they were doing like the one of the call that a the final four kinda thing whatever march madness kind of thing l. yeah <hes> willow run. Okay thank you liz <hes> and <hes> the <hes> <hes> the airplane had been there for a few days and there were some really super high winds up in that area <hes> during that time and apparently the wind and the the the the way that airplane was parked up against between two buildings or something like that and the wind flow around the buildings just kind of enhanced the <hes> the the amount of velocity the wind <hes> in did some the thing was you know as we know <hes> or most people know from listening to the show the <hes> mandar nothing the m._d. ninety but the man the m._d. eighty through eighty eight <hes> is a has an unpowered elevator and so just kinda flops around and and in the wind and the wind and it can left one might be up and the right one might be down and it's kind of crazy anyway there's nothing keeping for moving and apparently this had been when exposed to a quite a lot of wind and was banging up and down and apparently <hes> i forget which side was the rider left <hes> but one of the control arms for for that <hes> control tab which is actually controls the movement of the elevator had been damaged and they were rolling down the runway and they you told the yolk back for rotation and nothing happened and that was one of those situations where the airplane was not gonna fly and would they yeah well past v one when they realized that there's no way the european was gonna fly so they had to abort the takeoff and you know miraculously. Nobody was killed in and i'm not even sure an anybody was seriously injured <hes> but it could have been a huge tragedy <hes> had that airplane actually gotten off the ground or if they made the decision to stop up even later that <hes> so sasha difficult decision that i mean <hes> we talk about bonnets have to make the decision of v eighty one losing an engine but after make a decision after v. one <hes> just a requires real courage. Yana in this case was like <hes>. There's nothing else i could do really right leaving about. I'm just saying like the startled factor there. Were you expect a you have no reason otherwise suspect the airplanes not gonna fly except that it doesn't respond to control inputs. You're giving it so we do control checks and stuff and there's nothing that we showed you because there's like a little tab. The only thing that's moving <hes> connected to our controls and there's no kind of electronic display that shows the movement of these towns and there is nobody outside outside looking to see if the tabs actually moving in response to the control input so what i did because i knew that the night before there was a lot of wind and these stories are still in the back of my head thinking that that's what's going to kill me is that stupid control tab on the elevator of this mad dog and so when i did the walk around i ended ended up calling on on the cell phone of the first officer and as a note this is crazy but i explained what i was going to do before i left the cockpit and so he pulled the back and and then i can see the tab was moving in the proper direction and they pushed it forward. It was both at the tabs. We're moving in the proper direction and that was you know that satisfied my <hes> concern regarding whether or not that there had been any damage to the control tab of the elevator in this case but <hes> i mean. I think that's a really wise thing to to do. Though why wouldn't you if you have the ability to do that in check it before you go. There was any concern at all yeah. So i know probably looked foolish doing it. <hes> you know i'm still lynch then to think about doing something and not do it and then have that be the problem as a lot more foolish and is like nothing in our books books say anything about doing that sort of an inspection but you have to use your pilot brain right now we do shows and we we see an awful lot of accident incident reports arts and <hes> you know you can't help but you know started thinking about these kind of things anyway just thought i'd throw that out <hes> so do we thoroughly answer craig's question regarding the <hes>. I seldom and i said nice little tornado going on in that picture. Yeah i saw that is that actually from the the storm <hes> from <hes> from another storm as severe storm. Yeah not sure which one well yeah. That's pretty severe actually okay <hes> speaking of severe storms. Hopefully my power stays on. There's a impressive about of lightning on the radar heading my way okay. Hopefully you'll keep your electricity <hes> hoops but if i disappear all of a sudden that's probably what happened. Okay we'll hang in there stuff. I mean i'll be here. Okay we'll be able to see it. Just sounds like you'll be finishing the show all on your right now. I have great faith. The power power will stay on yeah. Okay <hes>. I'm getting <hes> internal communications. That says that <hes> that nick wants us to do the plane tail right now or but it's coming up to eleven o'clock at ninety okay very early tomorrow soapy. I think that'd be great idea. Knock it on the head and i'll then i'll say when we finished. I'll say mica pies. You're very good. I have not even thought about that. Thank you very much. <hes> how how how <hes> what's the word i'm looking for not rude but <hes> insensitive insensitive of me not to think about the fact that you're up really really relate cheese yeah no problem until normally i have a hassle i just i don't wanna to in the morning but perhaps not tomorrow no day very good very good so here we go so we're going to play this week's episode or installment of the plain old pilots plain tales here we go. The pilots played all weather headlock. It's twenty years in the past and lucky chuckie. <hes> is a dusty fly blown kenyan frontier town that is a long way from the tourist images on african safari. Choose news the m._a._c. consul of the takao. No wonder the streets and the place stinks foul garbage john excrement but flies flies off the committee says dangerous here as it is trout has decimated cattle hood so the desperate to kana have mainly become bandits robbing anyone careless enough to risk travelling at night and a few days before a driver was shot dead ed and his passengers robbed arrows so at wal with the neighboring tried to posada nightly gunbattles can be heard in the the distance as an ashtray here with a few buildings offices in compounds one with a poom and above six o'clock sharp an attractive blonde can be found there sipping g._m._t. While the ice sitting hug gloves first us clowns she looks out of place petar easy man on familiarity marks as a local. She's well spoken with the classic classic british accent. If the well-to-do minorities direct and her style betrays upbringing she's a product of the british empire self sufficient and capable born in england but brought up in nigeria father was a mine manager at eighteen she married an army officer and had two children by him but at twenty one she left him and married an older chap who owned his own aircraft a craft. She was keen to learn a flyer but i knew husband said that she would be an awful pilot. She was terrible at maths. Eventually she persuaded him to let her try and despite having to mull children by the age of twenty five she hadn't he gained a pilot's license falling in i love with her instructor along the way and having another child by him a girlfriend described harris stunningly beautiful with natural control grace a very open and honest character who wouldn't try and hide anything even high lovers. She took a commercial examiners and flight test in england flying out of gatwick apple and landing sandwiched between boeing seven hundred seven's. She needed money eight to keep her children in boarding school so she started bush flying something she loved initially for flying doctors on the police say a wing building up experience and learning to find the half hidden strips that were ahead destinations flying curious dotted and honest with kenya kenya flying freight. This was followed by a job for kenya air charters taking wealthy white hunters out into the sedan bush in a beechcraft baron fifty five good years she says staying in hunting camps for a week or more and floating down the nile on river barges searching for lion antelope an elephant landing on poorly prepared strips that would difficult to find particularly just using a simple map. She learned in her trade. Flying the bush the hard way the careful pilot meticulous about looking after her aircraft she knew that flying in some of the most just remote parts of africa killed many slapdash aviators who took risks there was enough excitement to be found without the additional l. thrill of risking and engine failure through paul maintenance. She continued to progress gaining her instrument rating in nineteen seventy in in qualifying on the island. Come on chee as take seneca an cessna four zero two to name a few despite a measured should approach to flying. She gained a solid reputation for being able to work in the worst of conditions and earned a nickname that would stick with her for life. All whether heather heather stuart's meticulous attitude didn't always prevent the unexpected she she experienced the usual problems that africa with throw away flat tires flat batteries broken radios and villages who siphoned off the aviation fuel left airstrips these were the kind of problems at all bush pilot suffered from but heather soon gained reputation for toughness reliability and safety that got her work flying the rich and famous film stars on the link. I think she even met the pope. If you wanna get a feel for what kind of girl she was try reading about the pioneer aviator beryl markham who captivated hemingway and wrote the book west with the night she was even involved with joy and george adamson who gained fame for their efforts to introduce lions back into the wild documented in the famous book film and and foundation bone free heather is mentioned in the follow up book christian the lion flying into cora the book read it says always exhilarating. The camp is located in a very remote area of kenya and for the last hour of the flight there are non of the cultivated patches riches or gleaming tin roofs that usually betray human habitation terrence had plan to extend the landing strip off to some pundits had expressed that concerns about its length but this didn't worry on pilot had the stewart who was an excellent pilot. It wasn't long long before we had touched down safely. She did a stint flying the lawrence of arabia film director david lean around and took into delivering cat into somalia. The mild narcotic is legal. <hes> and since alcohol is available to the muslim population. It's <hes> <hes> drug of choice. I never had enough fuel for a round trip. She said and i had to get out onto the wing with jerry cans to refuel while a gun battle between warlords bro count and they were bullets whizzing around i finished off and got into the cockpit but my plane had six bullet holes in it and one pass right through close to the back of my head missed me why that much he said spreading her thumb and forefinger offing up that made me think so when someone said go fly in the sudan they really need people there. I went with a short blond hair. Good looks and brilliant smile had that could easily have been mistaken for the hostess of an english garden party not but she was never afraid of getting a hands dirty the u._n. Needed a base for their operations into the sudan operation lifeline more than two million had died there if not by bullets and bombs then from the famine and disease brought about by war drought and flood the united nations classified the region as a state in chronic emergency. I'm was trying to fly in supplies lies. The sore opportunity to help with another pilot american called jim gaunt she said about building an strip but lucky lke chucky and she started a charter company called trackmark aviation thus began ascending point in his life from the glamour and flying flying of the rich and famous to the down to earth work of transporting aid into desperate regions of africa. Sudan is the biggest country three on the continent but for years at suffered from intractable civil warms the pilots who operated their work team conditions that will give the average bridge airline pilot palpitations panic attacks no control towers where the forecast navigation beacons right all the like. These aviators didn't have adventures. They live them on a daily basis. One trip heather was flying three c. One thirty hercules pilots to look at possible asterix to operate their crop from they got to a town cold kabo that had had an aircraft landed sunday for years and overflight showed the strip as dry and clear but underneath the crust of dry laya soft blacken the sulky foundation indication of the tells of putting the cessna four right to down but it sank through the crossing got completely stuck. It couldn't take off and nobody nobody could land that a rescue the eight a few biscuits will they had an purified river walter whilst heather radioed for food and water trump but it was three days before anyone could get the n._f._l. Had been the scene of a recent battle. The sudan people's liberation ration- army rebels at driven off the government forces. There were thousands of mosquitoes. The heat was terrible and there was always the fear that the army would come back and attack. There were many dead bodies lying about she said and you can imagine what it was lying. One of the passengers was survival expert but then he got bitten by a scorpion is in a great deal of pain. The plane with the food and water dropped dropped morphine as well and we shot him up with so much of it that he can't stand finally one of the catholic missions was able to get a helicopter to them strip the radio from the cessna and they got out. It was quite good. She said to change my clothes and have have a bomb track marks at a small beginning just me and my airplane she said but the islamic government in khartoum in who seized power declared the war in the south to be a jehan in the following years it would deny aid to southern sudan and drop cluster bomb in some churches missions and defenseless villages massacring thousands and driving thousands more from their homes into concentration. Listen tracing cancel the bush it even revived the ancient practice of raiding towns on horseback killing the elderly and men of finding age then rounding up the young women and children to sell them into slavery the work of the u._n. Began to grow and dozens of non-governmental organization. We're bringing in tons of aid that needed to be flown into the sudan. The amount they shifted exceeded the total flown during the berlin airlift heather began taking on all the pilots and at one time her company employed twenty not too she invested in lucky chunky by building a safe enclave with a bond even pool as a side note it still lab. Should you ever wanted to explore the real side of africa and they'll wrench room. The flying was still dangerous. The government insisted on advance warning of aid flights and it sometimes dispatch militia units to seize the s._p._l._a. Rebels controlled old vast areas of the south so the government frequently deny permission to fly in an attempt to stop the rebels into submission aw in response to the dire need for aid the bush pilots delivered their cargoes to the no-fly zones in defiance of cartoons threats threats that their planes will be shot out of the sky. They cooled it flying on the dark side and filed fulls plans or planned lands toll the risks were hi. Heather did a lot of flying for the catholic missionaries in sudan's western province taking the off before dawn she would land in the early light and then throw camouflage netting over aircraft to keep it hidden until it was safe to depart aw nine. These astronauts had no lighting so she would line up takeoff and aim at a single torch held up by someone standing standing at the other end of the strip. A friend recalled another a harrowing flight. We were on her caravan across ready to leave and find a group group of slaves. We were attempting to reach in another region. When a number of men came up to the plane carrying a youth who had been shot a number of times times during a raid he was barely conscious and had lost copious amounts of blood and with no medical assistance available and he had a few hours to live. I'll fly him to nakae as it was affectionately named on the red cross hospital there heather said at the time lucky had the largest field hospital in the world but i need someone to come with me. While i fly the plane. Jane volunteered the the task and in the end. It was decided that the young man's mother should come with us. We'll never describe what we endured on that flight blood continue to run down the floor of the aircraft as we sought to administer morphine and check his vital signs. We felt so helpless at one point. He opened his eyes and his mother went to the site. He had a huge wound onto his arm on. The blood was escaping rapidly. There's duct tape tape in the rear compartment had the yelled from the front and we wrapped the wounded it watching as the bleeding somehow stone five house later we arrived in lucky where the boy and his mother were whisked off to the hospital from the estrin later we happened upon him and and he had recovered though with the loss of the use of his arm heather invited us to the hospitality camp. She ran that just off the single strip rip treating us to a sumptuous dinner and her best room. Even they're exhausted from the flight. She constantly looked out out for others. Heather stewart spent years flying. People like us into some of the riskier situations and on many of those occasions goes to park her plane with us for the night in case something serious where to occur she slept on the ground with us endeared the heat the food food the massive scope of human suffering and the shed grief at the senseless deaths of hundreds of thousands she helped testified slavery assisted others flying in emergency supplies and workers and constantly used lucky cam to assuage the pains wins heal the wounds and recover the spirits hatha tried to stay neutral in her opinions about the conflict to avoid getting caught up in the causes but she admits to flying medevac for wounded guerrillas when called upon i always carry a jar of vick's <music> smelly chest rob with me she said am i put a little in each nostril. The stench of gangrene can be overwhelming and a small plane. It's dangerous flying. It's quite a buzz really add much rather do that than fly a bunch of tourists to look at lyons the one thing she wouldn't do was deliver weapons possibly as a result of her decision as dried up cited the money and the company shrank back down but have kept flying. You wanna her efforts. The missionaries brought to rome for a private audience audience with john. This protestant woman of dubious morals a multiple marriages knelt and kissed the pontiff spring to cover her basis. We laughingly admitted she later flew the archbishop of canterbury on tour of south sudan the dying peacefully of leukemia in her home in kenya nearly a year erica h seventy she left many full of admiration nations and the world is a sad place without her and another great plain tale. Thank you captain nick well. Thank you to jersey being left on team for the great suggestion because i had never heard of <hes> all-weather heather and <hes> you know as i dug go into how story and it wasn't easiest story <hes> to research this one i ended up to buy book because there was a single chapter in there which had an account <hes> all <hes> and i thought well that's it's worth spending the money just to you get that little piece that will give me more detail of hunt life but she sounds like an unlikely character to do that sort of thing being but ideally suited to it because i suspect that with her flying skills which were on her commonsense and her drive <hes> and fearless approach to life in kenya and more importantly in the sudan somalia malia during that awful complex <hes> she did an awful lot of good <hes> and regardless of what sex she was she was a fantastic bush bush pilot and much admired so when i found out about her life i really <hes> took an interest and belt. I had to tell that story because i think she was one remarkable. <hes> lady an amazing pilot as you say regardless artless gender <hes> an amazing pilot great story and i do have a question though <hes> did they change the formulation of vicks because i don't think that that vicks is a horrible smell strong odors mental yeah. It's a mental menthol kind of uh living. It's a it's an unpleasant smell but it's <hes> it's all she had to try and hide the stench of the things she had to carry him. Her cannot imagine this. What gangrene must smell like must be horrible. It's not yeah you had the opportunity <hes> pleasure. Yes oh letting displeasure from medical school. You kind of get exposed into that sort of thing yeah. There's a smell ever forget no. There's there's several full. Infamous smells the in the medical field that once you smelled you will not forget ever right yeah well. Sorry sorta ended on that note. Thanks for reminding me of all no no. I i just i during my this woman. I thanks very much for zhou seeing who who we love anyway because she sends in great favor a great support of the shown an actually for a rare rare occasion. She's not in the chat room tonight so he's not watching live which is a shame. I hope she gets to hear this under realize what a great story was. She revealed to me so that i could talent on delighted available to that exactly i'm sure she will listen and she will. Thank you in due course for scher us. Thanks josie okay well nick. I am going to direct you now to leave us because we've had it with you. Gone my pleasure to ta- take an early bath as they say when you leave the field of play before your time go for nearly baath because <hes> potent tomorrow playing my finals at the ball club so <hes>. I need to get some sleep on. It's it's it goes fast approaching midnight by the time i actually get my head on the pillow so yeah. I'm gonna wish you you guys will and you had the lucky to staff to give expert advice on the remaining feedback. I'm sure she is quite capable of filling mount place more within capable than case. We're in good hands berlin anyway. Have liberty show guys expectations for much on your on your by okay and then there were two. Oh jeez sorry. You're stuck with us yeah. You know i can think of worse things yeah. I could too all right well. Let's see let's go back to where we left off offer. I think <hes> grow number five. They'd be the next one. You're right greetings p._g. Crew and the world's okay assed airbus us guy <hes> too bad. We didn't do that just before nick anyway. It's your favorite millennial tom from pittsburgh reporting from the opposite outside of the fire hose of part one twenty-one training. I'm happy to say i'm officially through my first typewriting typewriter. The types rate type rating off. I o e and a full-fledged first officer on the jungle jet a <music> but can only find my applause. Imagine it mattering. It's coming in. It's just awesome here ago taylor congratulations on that he says although i am sorry to say i i haven't been able to catch up with the show lately as i've been busy trying to keep up with the jet. I'm starting to catch up with every layover and long set. I have and <hes> you know what i think. We can give them a break since era cut for him to come back to catch up but right. I i mean that time off. That's fine yeah. Let it go. You will allow it. We'll let it go this time. Okay <hes> let's see i've been traveling a lot even to atlanta and one of these days. I'd love to have a meet up with y'all also like to say congrats to captain nick on his retirement. Such a long fruitful career finally comes to an end and and enjoy your retirement. I know a little late but i'm playing catch up here again. I turn to you guys for some advice for anyone just getting off low time at their first airline. If you could go back to your low time selves at your first airline. What would you tell them. I look forward to hearing from you guys again. Hopefully having a meet up. Well sadly sadly. I'm the only airline pilot here. That can really answer that question tom. <hes> perhaps maybe you can remind me staff on <hes> the next show when dana and nickelback circuit if we think about it <hes> if lizard kind of did may be the can keep that in the year and the koran that <hes> in okay so let's see if i could go back to my initial self <hes> at the first airline <hes> this is the acme airlines by the way is my first airline and only airline one of the lucky ones so i got <hes> <hes> hired out of the air force and right on into <hes> a major legacy carrier which i'm very fortunate to have. I've had that experience <hes> and i think that the only thing that i can advise recommend is to to try to keep track of everything that's happening to you. <hes> i never kept a diary and didn't even keep a log book. Actually a logbook would probably be a good first step <hes> and not necessarily kind of record all the exact details about the exact take time like a typical logbook but more that the block of the logbook where you put like notes remarks in things up if i maybe log is not necessary may be <hes> like keep a some kind of a ledger or <hes> or journal or whatever you call it where you could or even something on your computer in to to keep track of to to write down you know something about not every single leg of course because you know sometimes and you'd you'd be hard pressed to think of anything that was worth writing about on every single leg but you know on on each trip. There's always something odd or unusual that happens or maybe something that at the time doesn't really seem important talk or significant in your life that <hes> ten twenty thirty years from now it might be kind of fun to read something that you wrote that long ago and bring up you know some memories from <hes> from that time so <hes> just something to consider sitter. I'd say just <hes> because you when you're at your age right now and you're starting off <hes> you don't realize the significance significance of a lot of the things that are happening to your now and you will understand it once you're older. That's the only advice. I think that i can give yeah. <hes> you know there's kind of a famous <hes> this has nothing probably generalized too many professions but there's a <hes> or maybe not i don't know <hes> famous line from a book called the house of god which is kind of a interesting read <hes>. I'd say even required league for anyone going into medicine <hes> before they start there in turn. Your <hes> at one of the rules is <hes>. I check your own pulse. So before you you get excited worked up about something you check your pulse and then it's kind of like the wind the clock thing and the okay for or not sure i quite understood stood what that meant. We know what the significant of check your own pulses so just before you know before you start getting caught up in the need to do this. Though so severe present was a situation that seems a little overwhelming. Just take a moment to take a step back for half a second remember. You have time most of the time think through it logically early and that's really important. I think that is important. I just had that much okay and and <hes> our producer in the background there has already taken care of <hes> making an effort to revisit this on on a on a future show so that's good <hes> hopefully that gave you some. You know some advice tom and hopefully so you'll receive more and congratulations again or your your progress <hes> item six from moshe aw <hes> in israel moshe in case you haven't yet seen it attached as the terrific field guide to know thames produced by the ops group <hes> creators of death to notams dot com. I expect god will be especially used for useful for captain. Nick who in his retirement has plenty spare time to seek out and photograph no dams that are in danger of extinction and again this is from <hes> moshe greenberg born in israel and <hes>. I have a <hes> the p._d._f. Of it in our show notes staff. I don't know if you had a chance to look through it but whoever came up with this <hes> field guide to notice as a very very good sense of humor. It's really yes. I funny. I have seen this. I've read through a little bit of it not real. I just read a little bit of the forward for the last hundred years the know tom has existed without fear of predator unchanged and unchallenged it has lived freely in our aviation ecosystem blissfully unaffected by technological development that has long seen the demise of other primitive species such as morse code the telegram and lorenzi navigation no thames to will disappear take advantage of their abundance while you can with field guide you can embark upon your adventure finding the multitude of varieties that still exist <hes> so that's just a little <hes> a little taste. The next page talks about for an a another little snippet here the crane not him no thomas construct construct us a nice latin <hes> version of the crane not very common in europe and north america the crane note him as part of the larger irrelevancies family relevance. Most airports are near cities. Most cities airports have construction so there are a lot of cranes. These are at most few hundred feet high and usually very far from the runway nonetheless any crane with an uber distance of an airport is is added to the note and system and then has an example <hes> this one from <hes> lima india mike echo milan obstacle crane rain erected with f. w. f. l. w. characteristics carousel foreign characteristics p._s. N. w. g. s. dash eighty four four five two four five four two three two point nine zero north zero zero nine three nine zero four point seven five five east elevation a._g. L. ninety eight point four feet thirty meters goes on with some other. They've given some helpful. <hes> <hes> diagrams are <hes> at diagram pictures of different types of crane so that you can identify if i like that. They've included the crane. Yes which is actually a bird common cranes tower crane truck crane terrain whooping crane after then it has a little section for your own notes <hes> and then have some nice <hes> some nice quotes from various people this one in american airlines pilot or an american pilot. I'm sorry i'm not going to read it because it does have some foul language in it like i like the quote from donald trump though <hes> missy further down such as that make no towns great again yes donald trump captain air force one well you know we've talked about 'bout no thames in the past on our show many times actually in how <hes> so much of what is there is completely irrelevant and and even the n._t._s._b. The national transportation safety board chairman robert sue malt himself <hes> during the <hes>. I guess they were discussing the final report of the canadian air canada near crash at san francisco <hes> and they were one of the things they were discussing was no tam's and again here's his quote. No dams are they're just a bunch of garbage that nobody pays an an anti so. We have that so really do need to check out the show notes. Let's hear to <hes> get download the field guide to notams from the neth death to know dams roop people <hes> very very funny. Thank you moshe for vergara giving us that lincoln reminding us of this great piece of literature now. It's very funny at definitely drives home. The point of how ridiculous a lot of no temps are yup it really does. It's a great read. <hes> seven from producer steve an interesting development in the investigation of this light aircraft crash <hes> a fairly extensively earlier in the year correct. Yes <hes> the soccer or the footballer. <hes> emiliano sala allah <hes> was the passenger the single sole passenger aboard a small commercial flight <hes> single pilot and he says an interesting development <hes> might you might want to mention <hes> clearly. We don't yet know the root cause of the crash but the hi c._o. Two in the in the passengers clearly a big red flag. I now we've done the co two debate to death but <hes> or before are so probably not one to dwell on but it does serve as a reminder of the potential dangers of c._o. Two poisoning in general aviation again this is steve hurst and he gave us a link to this article and <hes> as i said or as steve said they found that the footballer emiliano salah how was exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide prior to a fatal print plane crash in the english channel. A report has revealed he was twenty eight and the pilot david edison fifty nine crashed on the twenty first of january while traveling from dante's in france to cardiff. I'm not sure that announced dante's you know i've. I've lost it in the other n._a._t._o. Pronounce it <hes> but i'm not gonna say eight either so okay. That's my church. <hes> toxicology tests on salah's body showed c._o. Levels in his blood were so great could have caused a seizure unconsciousness or a heart attack <hes> so steph so you're the doctor here <hes> to me not a doctor. <hes> looks like a fifty eight percent level of carbon monoxide dockside <hes> oh no no. I'm sorry that's what <hes> oh yeah. He did have a level of fifty eight percent. That seems really high to me. It is really high yeah. That's not normal. I mean i don't know what a normal amount would be. Would i would think it would be like single. Digits at most may be very close to duro yeah wow so they still haven't found the body of the pilot ibbotson that <hes> they do where the the wreckage of the airplane is and i think they're still trying to get funding to bring the thing up service yeah nantes yeah. I'm not the i don't know i can't. I can't make that sound quickly. I know how it's supposed to sound that. I can't do it correctly. Okay thank you so. What do you think stuff. You think that this is <hes> a i. I think we probably don't know for a at was part of of their final report or hard. This was just an intermediate a we found this <hes> yes. Certainly you know this was a piper malibu. I believe leaps odell system engine <hes> so certainly could produce carbon monoxide if you had faulty heating or ventilation or something along those lines <hes> yeah and if you're you're exposed to high levels of carbon monoxide like that that's really can result in a situation where you're <hes> not able to think clearly unconscious and would not be able to continue to safely no pilot and aircraft and could result in a crash <hes>. That's one possibility of what may have happened here. <hes> i'm not sure how else you end up with such high levels of carbon monoxide in your system if that was not a significant contributing causal factor <hes> but we'll see. It sounds like we're mike. It's more information again in the future. Yes i had not read the update on this <hes> steve so thank you for making us aware of it and <hes> hopefully they'll get get whatever is necessary to retrieve the wreckage of the airplane so they can inspect it more closely to see if that is perhaps <hes> one of the causes of this tragedy. I don't know we'll see. How did you see did you say c._o. Two level at some point okay so carbon monoxide. Yeah okay carbon monoxide to see oh. I coulda sworn i was reading something that said you may have been. I was looking back. I just wanted to make sure we <hes> okay <hes> sometimes. It's just easy to resolve steve said c._o. Two okay <hes> so the oracle is self. I think has just c._e._o. Yeah downright and sorry. I was not even paying attention to those. You'll writing down into the the article to look through it. Yeah you're right. It's a carbon monoxide not dioxide soaring c. o. Oh steve you didn't do well and kim chemistry digital. We're just getting steve back up to fifty percent here twenty. You're better than that. Yeah i'm just we. We knew what she meant. Everyone knew what you meant. It's all good so i didn't notice she was the one and the tara <hes> <hes> honestly you were reading through that and i was actually looking down the article and i wasn't paying attention to you. I'm sorry i was my close attention to what i was saying. Either which is normal. It is here to pay attention to one or liz. Actually she's a whiz eight attention. What are you taking about carbon dioxide. It gets very distracting. Sometimes when i'm trying to read things i see all these messages going on from thinking okay. I'm not gonna look. I'm not as as usual. I've done a lot of preparation for the show <hes> <hes> so and by that i mean i've done zero preparation. Yeah we know we understand your sarcasm so as you know as jeff like starting learning to read the <hes> whatever the commentary is from whoever sent in the the item of interest. I'm actually reading. The item of interest for the first time for the first time yeah collided we. Can we take whatever we can get here. You're era fast. Read okay <hes>. Let's move on to item number eight <hes> robbie my name's robbie. I'm an aviation enthusiast interested in getting involved in aviation. I'm interested in taking flying lessons of some variety when i have time but i'm leaving my home in westchester pennsylvania just outside of philadelphia or virginia polytechnic institute and state university and i don't expect to have a lot of time for anything other than studying and drinking beer speaking of which i plan to study aerospace engineering since there are so many interesting in topics tracks that pertain to it none of this is particularly important to the podcast so i'll get to the important stuff i i'm not asking any questions today as i only discovered your podcast a month ago and i've only gotten through episode fifty eight a chuckle every time i hear someone saying that they are working to catch up because they have a lot less to work through than i do and i'm not going to bother answering your questions about show length favourite weather app etcetera the only purpose that will that will serve to you and your listeners is a trip down memory lane for anyone who has listened to the early episodes the two topics that i have been building up to with the the deliberateness of a cow meandering its way about do relate somewhat to both the past episodes and the present i i'd forgotten that the boeing seven hundred seven had been ungrounded for awhile not long after its debut yeah they had all those battery problems of course a seven thirty seven max aircraft groundings are not directly comparable but it makes me you feel better overall about the eventual return of the seven thirty seven max aircraft to everyday use the other topic i wanted to bring up was the following article i saw all this morning which can be found at the link and then he gives us a link <hes>. Let's see in the the title of the headline of this link is flight attendant. Forty-three contracted measles on flight dies after battling the disease for five months so going back to robbie's feedback here just yesterday i was listening to episode fifty eight in your rambling on and on and on no just kidding. You spent an appropriate amount of time on the topic anyway you were talking about. Two british airways crew members who have both died at forty three and <hes> posthumously accused. I said that right posthumously posthumously accused arrow toxicity city. I think that's what it was called to be the main cause of their death again. They're not entirely related but it's still close enough that i felt like i could take up some valuable podcast time well. You can always take up valuable podcast time robby <hes> obviously i won't be in pennsylvania very often in the foreseeable future and even if i was i'm underage but in downingtown downingtown or as downington probably never been there as philadelphia. There's a call downingtown. I want to say yes. You have has been recorded. My answer has been recorded has been recorded. I will be corrected in due time. If i am incredible more time. No please downingtown ch- downing took the <hes> the judges say judges say yes that is correct. Okay 'cause very good. We don't have any judges. I'm just making them now. At many things i did live in that area at one point in my life hyphen. I really should know i have an excuse. I have never heard of that town in. I've never lived close to philadelphia in philadelphia anyway. He said admittedly not very close close to philadelphia. There's a craft brewery called victory brewing company. Which i've been told is superb in. Yes i can verify that victory. Brewing is awesome. <hes> <hes> particular that i've heard are the dirt wolf my mom's personal favourite your mom good taste which is a w._p._a. And has a bit of a grapefruit taste to it. Hop devil a regular i._p. Being must give hop double. That's a good one and golden monkey. Belgian style beer not tried that one <hes>. I also hear that you can find some of these around the country of your lucky so keep an eye out. I think i can get them at total line here. In <hes> <hes> alvarez i'm eager eagerly awaiting to hear your response which i probably won't get to for another sixteen months your question your show as amazing and i can't wait to listen to the next three hundred twenty ish episodes so i can ask you all of my questions right now. I have enough to fill a whole episode committee. We should do that wishing you clear skies unlimited visibility and tailwinds when appropriate and again this is robert. Excuse me robbie gould e and the <hes> the article that he refers to staff <hes> again is the flight attendant <hes> for el al <hes> was working on on a flight in late march when she contracted the infectious disease measles and then she was hospitalized and <hes> she he died this week following a five-month battle with the infectious disease rotem a multi a forty three year old employees for el al passed away on tuesday after contracting measles at the end of march and following into it falling into a deep coma the washington post reports she was flight from new york's john f kennedy international airport to israel around the time she began to show symptoms of the virus. She was later hospitalized after developing encephalitis an inflammation of the brain caused by the disease according to the outlet <hes> days after landing in israel. The israeli ministry of health released an alert about a measles patient onboard an l. l. flight from j._f._k. Into israel on march twenty six to twenty seven but did not mention specifically whether she was exposed to the illness while on the aircraft at this time or at the time officials also could not confirm where where or when she may have contracted the virus but noted that she did not appear to spread measles to anyone else on the flight according to the report from the washington post medical professionals were unable to speak with her after she fell into a coma but eventually got in contact with her mother there who verified that her daughter had received the required vaccines as a child still the vaccine from her childhood may not have been strong enough to prevent her from crying. Contracting the virus as patients were given a single dose of the vaccine in the seventies these days israeli medical officials recommend giving children one dose when they're twelve months old and another other one when they're in the first grade what they say one year old but that'd be easier told months never get that like when you have kid and there's how old is your child away eight four from <hes>. I feel like that happens outside of the we like to say year year and a half yeah i just i was at the places that's more news i eighteen hundred dollars a year and a half right eighteen months you know those parents have just been counting every single month though if it's their only their first child or their only child pictures for instagram with the cute little number. I'm just no and that's why they do that. The clothing and all against <hes> yeah okay so one does when they're twelve months old and another one when they're in first grade in a statement to the jewish press spokesperson looks person for el al expressed their condolences to her family said they were properly handling the matter accordance with the health ministry's guidelines <hes> the company is bowing its head over the death of a member of el al's aircrew the spokesperson told the outlet the company will continue to act on the matter in accordance with the health. Ministry's is guide lines once the case became now on the company acted to vaccinate the company's aircrews the spokesperson added the company shares the deep grief of the family and will continue to accompany the family which was very nice of them to say that and to do that <hes> so what do you think stuff <hes> you you know you hear about these measles outbreaks and such <hes> yeah so we've. We've definitely got a problem with that right now. With some of the trend of <hes> parents not choosing not to vaccinate their children or at least not keep up with the he suggested timeframe for vaccinations recently because of other fears which have since been mostly since bit completely debunked. I should say <hes> but it's really really really important that people get these vaccinations especially for something like measles. Measles is really highly contagious. <hes> <hes> something like it can live up to two hours in airspace where an infected person has coughed or sneezed on a plane with someone who happens to have a measles infection and and they call for sneeze air around them as virus live for up to two hours and that can be enough for you to become infected if you are not appropriately vaccinated against the disease but we should also say something about the fact that it's not necessarily as as serious as it was for this flight attendant as far as getting the lights and i mean no no no but i mean it does have the potential to be that way and the the the point i'm trying to make is that there is a vaccination for it that is highly effective and especially if you're going to be <hes> kind of working in close quarters especially for folks like me working in healthcare medicine <hes> and really just for everyone should be vaccinated against this particular paris now the m._w._r. I think is the vaccine the they referred mumps and rubella harder m._m._r. or m._r. Thank you m._w._r. Is the military welfare and recreation department am which has nothing to do with paxon's interestingly. I just pulled up the c._d._c. Here and it talks about <hes> planning for travel and <hes> <hes> protecting yourself against measles says most measles cases in the united states result from international travel <hes> <hes> so make sure you're protected. If your trip is less than two weeks away and you're not protected against measles. You should still get a dose of the vaccine okay there. You have it. That's from a doctor okay. Thanks robbie and and good luck with your college education and hope halftime or naptime fun at where where did you say was going <hes> selena polytech or something like that. What is that <hes> virginia polytechnic institute and state university. Okay all right moving on number nine nine in <hes> this is from anthony and also <hes>. Let's see this is <hes> he gave. There's a link to an article for mental floss. Dot com was enjoy reading their stuff and he says and you drones are problematic all the best of the best crew through anthony s in west caldwell new jersey and he <hes> this link to mental floss magazine mental floss dot com a refers to to <hes> in nineteen fifty-nine the u._s. Postal service attempted to deliver mail via missile for missile if he prefers yes s. fear from if you're british right is that the way they would say missile in the late nineteen fifties of future was up in the air. <hes> the space race was okay in the late nineteen fifties. The future was up in the air excellent. The space race was just getting started and the u._s. Military was working on missiles that could reach around the world and even to the moon the u._s. Government didn't just see new flight capabilities military priorities though it also thought that the abused carry mail as we recently learned from today. I found out yes. The postal service wants tried sending letters by missile mail in june nineteen fifty-nine the u._s. Navy sent three thousand letters. Here's on a guided missile toward a navy naval auxiliary air station mayport florida launched from the u._s._s. barbaro a submarine that was stationed one hundred miles off the us coast in international waters the thirty six foot regulus one missile made it to mayport in twenty two minutes whereas fast asked that is pay fast held to metal containers that was supposed to be the missiles warhead chamber the letters onboard were copies of a letter from postmaster general arthur summerfield to then president eisenhower vice president richard nixon individual representatives of congress members of the supreme court the crew of the barbaro and and more the letters carried regular mail stamps not even airmail as the a. p. story that day noted okay turns turns out. There were soaking wet because they were a submarine. I mean come on now. I'm just going to marry. The postal service heralded it. As the first successful delivery of mail by missile there had been previous attempts like a swatted nineteen thirty six delivery on a rocket powered playing across a lake between new york and new jersey despite several attempts that one never fully made it <hes> made a successful delivery but delivery quote unquote was a bit of an overstatement. Most of those letters had to be sent by regular mail service at a post office in nearby jacksonville since the three thousand recipients weren't sitting around the naval base in florida waiting for their letter well why not i don't know i mean come on. It's going to be here on this day. You're going to have to go pick it up. You watch out for the incoming missile. They should have known. I mean if they had known that a missile was bringing their mail. They may have actually shown up. I would have asked me my mail. I made even like nope. I got a postcard coming today going to have to go down to the naval station it will be. Let's see now that we can now that we know we can do it. Summerfield filled told the press we plan a series of discussions to determine the practical extent to which the method can be used and under what conditions it never did become practical as we now now now summerfield success successor. J edward day killed the program pointing out that letter sent from the u._s. Barbaro ended up taking some eight days is to reach their intended recipients. Not exactly rocket speed <hes> anyway so it goes on to talk a little bit more about that yeah yeah well. That's interesting. I have no idea that there was a point at which they were considering sending the mail air mail but missile nail rocket mail rotman eh rocket l. donna nano okay <hes> tim sent us. I'm not tim jim jim malloy this little bit. I'm wearing my <hes> year crosses uh-huh ha. I can always tell a vision range in. I can see there's riding. Do you hear that going on in the background right now. It is absolutely just coming down cats and dogs. They're pouring thunder lightning all kinds of waned. Yeah that's saga. That microphone is yeah. It is like so he's only six fifty two. It should still be daylight for another hour so it is pitch black outside right now. It's impressive to hear that's what a dynamic microphone a good dynamic migrant microphone does for you because we can't hear a thing except little boys little soundproof box right here yeah all right. We'll be safe hunker down pursue the wall collapsing on rain and everything else tree branch. Call somebody just call someone. It's fine now. You might wanna head over to this address. Go check it out. She may or may not be live. Okay item ten from jim. Just a navigator also the producer <hes> he says here is a one drive linked to a two minute feedback concerning the b a e one forty six and navigators. He says as usual feel free to use it all part of nut part or none of this audio file <hes> i had a conversation with captain nick in which i mentioned podcast about f four's that i thought he might be interested in that was the fighter pilot podcast and here's a link to that what's the guy's name nello jello yellow yellow nilo the guy that doesn't let her pilot august. The one that he's referring to isn't it. Yes servers listen to like a episode. I think dame's like jello or okay. Somebody in the chat room will though i'm sure jen probably <hes> anyway <hes> so we have a link to that <hes> jello. Thank you glenn dang being a._b. Community karst yes our right. <hes> we'll put that lincoln the show notes for nick and let's play the feedback that jim just navigator senan howdy a._p._g._a. E._p._g. cockpit crew in listeners. This is jim just to navigate her in texas. I wanted to thank the p._g. Cockpit crew in everyone who showed up at the oshkosh gathers that we had it was really a lot of fun to put so many faces to voices and meet so many new people from all over the world old single out <hes> colonel jeff who taught me a whole lot about the f fifteen e e that i didn't know sounds like a really cool airplane. I i have a tattoo feedback for a p._g. Three eighty six. I believe it was where we talked about the b. One forty six while i was is an upper hafford in england in the late eighty s there was a a one forty-six accident. A member of the british royal family was flying in what i think was a one forty-six belong to number thirty two squadron in ran off the end of the runway. There are many reasons why an airplane might run off the end of the runway anyway of course but the problem here was obvious there was a navigator on board so obviously it was the navigators fault fault that the royal family member pilot ran his airplane off the end of the runway. Obviously the the inquiry took more than five minutes to look around point to the poor navigator and say obviously his fault so some things are international. I have another similar story about a navigator who was blamed for not dying in an airplane. I'll save that one for another feedback later anyway again. Thank you for everybody who who showed up at oshkosh and milled milled around the the a._p. Luxury bus and all the people especially the a._p. J. crew who put all that together. <hes> thank you very much look forward to listening listing more. This is jim in texas a gem. It was our pleasure. It was a blast literally an osh blast nash blast yeah it was great seeing new gym at the <hes> at the show and visiting the the g. mobile palace <hes> ooh yeah yeah. It's about <hes> yeah. Obviously that was that it was a navigator is fault for that incident cleaner. Come on goes without saying and let's see look forward to the next or the <hes>. What did you say the <hes> other instance at least that he could think of where things were blamed on the navigator when clearly in his opinion theme okay <hes> moving onto item eleven which believe it or not is the last item in our current show folder. I i do have some extra stuff here and there <hes> that we can use if we want to. We may want to disseminate it <hes> early bente. We'll talk about that in a second <hes> but this is from robert and he says he's checking in from l._g._b._t. With long beach airport and he said record this quick video for your guys for you guys at unique retro l._g._b._t. Yesterday <hes> the reason why says retro because they still believe it or not don't have what do you call the jet ways and stuff the jeff bridges yeah still have stairs yeah yeah and the weather's usually great so it doesn't matter if you walk outside a little bit not like albany new york where they had air stairs for many many years including in the middle of blizzards. How's the weather in albany. In in january. I saw old ladies getting blown off the air stairs into the into the taxiways. Thank we haven't seen these. I don't know where they went anyway. <hes> back to <hes> roberts <hes> feedback. I didn't make it to the mad dog factory nearby right by that has been turned into a mercedes-benz plant but up the crew as well and <hes> soldiers play a quick <hes> snip oh. I thought i got some audio from this missing. What happens if i press a button. Nothing hang on may p._g. Crew and <hes> check with you guys. Try to stop by the mad madder birthplace here a long beach down here in beautiful california <hes> but i hope all is well <hes> <hes> see chicken with episode or too lightly but <hes> oh you guys were at oshkosh that's right so thanks for the updates up there and the about a week and a half and sunny california and <hes> maybe eight point two percent chance of rain will see out here thus catch up with you guys soon. Thanks bye okay. We'll put that link to his facebook video in the show notes. If you wanna see the the beautiful background he has the he's. He's framed it pretty well so you can see the long beach airport tower behind him beautiful blue skies and and i'm sure non humid air <hes> and that was not far at all from where i grew up. Basically i was actually mourn in long beach. I grew <hes> couple of years in lakewood which is very close to the long beach airport and los alamitos which is also very close to the long beach airport <hes>. I'm so glad you had a good trip there <hes> roberts thanks for sending that in and let me see here. How's it. How's it going out there. Purpose stunned dark still very loud and <hes> very radi and wendy. Oh okay well. We can end the show if if you'd like are we got me <hes> find afteh okay. Here's a good one four heavy their hangar one and also florida american airlines places united ninety humid service detail wants cleanups on here. We'll be ready to go see. This is awesome nice about forty minutes. An average tacky sometimes take off the air at five hours. Sir say rice found the only way out of the southeast at seven houses surly partly cloudy skies fifty five degrees. Yes i know mostly. You're gonna wanna relaxed also his k._f._c. This is only in house <music> absolutely very last. It wasn't just one thing is in west virginia. The problem is when anyway. I hear it's funny. Take notice everybody's trying to trying to transmit as well and all you hear is like the critically periodically yes i did here that has actually shook with that one. I was gonna say if we can hear it through that microphone. That's how how it's stored. I hope that there are no tornadoes <hes> avenue wow yeah that was impressive. Yeah and i'm not talking about the p._a. On ground control at l._a._x. No no no. I mean that was also impressed. It was very nice and it was interesting. He kind of let go of the button for a second and i think that most everybody thought oh thank goodness. He's realized that he has trent no he was. It's going to take a couple of air and let's continue with this. It's going to be best ground controller. Oh my god because you can imagine trying to work to do los angeles. International airport is busy place and she's trying to keep everything moving and everything else and basically he's blocking everything. Everybody's got stop like you said though not the first time at the last time a nut last time it would probably happen to any of us either nope. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna shake my finger at that guy. Do have you done it. I'm not gonna say i've i've done it on a <hes> in-flight frequency like a center frequency which is not doesn't have the same implications right so not not as much going on a time critical wise <hes> as is on ground around control frequency at a major international airport <hes> so i have not done that yet. Yes yeah <hes> and <hes> let's see i'm looking at maybe despite what was this one here <hes> now say that one for next another show this is kind of interesting also at los angeles international airport as the last few times three miles john nine four nine one four o'clock. Let's amount of northbound one thousand two hundred six. I know <music> us. Eleven hundred seats three miles east of elliott's air airforce suzy heirs ask three miles houston l._a._x. Here's how alhassan late us especially senile and see three zero six one five t five. Just please sixteen. Are you on the call. All right. We just had a violators sounds awesome near mid air. That's <music> silence to force <hes> he's. He's he's coming coming back to nine. Traffic alert trying to twelve o'clock three miles southbound indicates one thousand three hundred type unknown. It doesn't transponder there. Nobody is talking about crafts including the traffic concerned. We gotta say says across all southbound two nine. Excuse us trying to actually start. He's amy's floors other right now right behind him on a one mile filed title to four. We think it might be a house. That's worth talking on air for right now. Good okay. Oh dryden. Stop it right there. So how three mile final final thousand feet <hes> do that math three to one it sounds to me like which is a standard that slide pout city of the glide path exactly i mean that'd be like right on three two one glide path where this guy <hes> obviously lost obviously understanding that he is being here in. Let's just make a little turnaround. We'll go back again and take a look at the airport here and <hes> to four is that those are the runways on the northern side of l._a. So he's on the northern finals in hawthorne is south east of the <hes> of the two fives pretty close to the los angeles international airport actually and so he actually in basically later in this recording it talks about the fact that they think that he finally made it to hawthorn in landed and if that's the case that means he went right through all the finals at l._a._x. And how they it didn't have a mid air there. I have no idea but terrifying as the only information i could find about this and whether it was a helicopter or whatever kind of airplane that does did they say at one point and it sounds like he was circling back around to actually like be in the way of an aircraft well. I don't think he was intentionally. Stages meanders flying around. There's been a runway here somewhere. Where's that where's that in and out burger. Everyone talks think down here. He wasn't far from that. Actually no no i know he was on the north side of the two forests. That's exactly where you have a nice view of that. Whatever kind of vehicle it was <hes> helicopter fixed-wing anyway. Just i thought that <hes> that was interesting as well. Sometimes i like to <hes> kind of check out live a._t._c. and they'll have interesting record interesting recordings and those were both <hes> on that <hes> bulletin board so. I thought that i could throw them in there just in case we needed to talk about something now. I think those are interesting yeah so check out live a._t._c. Dot net a lot of the audio that we get <hes> air-to-air or air-to-ground. <hes> audio is from that site and make a great app. Have you ever used it while you're traveling are used it. Yesterday was driving is so so this thunderstorm on this going on out here. This has been kind of the this is the typical summer end of summer south either these late afternoon thunderstorms where things are just kind of crazy and i was going back into the art actually come home earliest rate because thursdays my early day driving back into the city to meet up with friends in the evening and dan kind of stop and go traffic going back into charlotte time of day too <hes> but as you're driving north is seventy seven they were landing aircraft to the north sea getting nice view of airplanes coming overhead on final and the lufthansa eighty three fifty that they fly in flew right over my head knowing you fifty coolers 'cause that's the only one of that type that lands at charlotte currently <hes> and i mean it's usually it's like cr jason stuff landing so it stands out. It's much larger and then you bet you'd have somebody crashing to your garage oregon thunderstorm okay so anyway you can see this thunderstorm like approaching approaching charlotte from the kind of north of west yesterday and i'm watching the flight watching the flight and then isi them going around. Are those like the kind disappeared you know behind the tree line for a second and then coming back around <hes> kind of made a nice dramatic. I wish i had a better camera way to take a picture of it because it was really cool with the storm coming in and turning turning around doesn't understand what was going on because the storm look close at that point but apparently there was some pretty significant wind shear already occurring because of that storm so with the app you can up. I pulled up the tower in control and was able to listen to what was going on and and and get a little more insight great network of people out there volunteers that have these scanners sat up and then as a lot a live feed to live a._t._c. dot net. You can listen to it on your computer or your mobile device enough. You had the app and it's basically real time. I mean there's very small leg right in terms of how how fast gets uploaded. If you're listening to the live feed yes especially handy for you aviation enthusiasts in spotters and of course at various pottery you probably already know about the a._t._c. up but <hes> check it out if you haven't yet and with that i think it's now now time for us to and the show unless you have anything else stuff no nothing else here okay good show we need to end the show before <hes> staffs demise exactly pending doom here. 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So I guess we'll see I butchered That yesterday with Charles the Charlestown West Virginia and Charleston West Virginia in Ja Charlestown relatively close to Baltimore. Washington charlestown not relatively close to anything but Cincinnati is within in shooting distance. The again is he mentioned the the heart of three interstates They're going to have very rapt crowd. That's going to be there. I Guess Virginia the attack. If you're looking for something to do on Wednesday that's you know a couple hours drive so yeah I mean this building has been set up to. What's the the number baronet because we've talked about the capacities some of these buildings? But they've set them up for for much smaller so again. There's a reason that they're going. They're obviously there's a reason they're going. There they could have went to Dayton. They could have went to anywhere after Pittsburgh. They specifically chose Charleston. West Virginia and there has been reasons that they've chosen W- DC PHILADELPHIA. Boston you know the whole shooting match so far so we'll see how it goes with the the sales come this week all right. Let's go to the phones. You're on the air what's going on. Hey Brian and Mike from Sacramento here the up Listen had a quick comment with regards these schedule coming up in the fall within moving to the USA network looking to tape it both sales. What happens when they have shows else on the west coast and they need Roman reigns coming from? If there's a wrong but I I just don't imagine the the top or is it going to be very happy about that. They're not flying back. I mean this has happened forever. I mean there. There are top stars that are like I mean guys get flown all over the place at the last minute when they need them to do anything. I mean this is not something new and you know. Remember the WHO's who. What's the story with Somebody owes Russo of all people was Russo. He was like doing all of the writing for RAW. And then like Vince wanting to the writing for smackdown as well and Roussel's like dude I got. I got kids mobile. Visited get an anti getting nanny. This is your job like you're going to do what I say that's it I'm paying you. They make you work for. We talked yesterday. Low Bit of in you are working. You are beholden to Vince McMahon. That's why his his circle is awaited. It is and so many people have come dropped out of it for you know God knows how many years now it's just it's almost impossible to keep up with and they're going to beat you for it and if they need you whatever you know excuse that they have. I mean you're you're on the hook to think about this. Think about that Shriek. We had where the introduced a wild card concept. Great concept by the way out the window already so introduced a wild card concept and as a result they needed some of the top stars of smackdown on raw and so for like five three weeks. They just canceled all of the Monday night. smackdown how shows so. What do you think those wrestlers did? They sat there in the town. Doing nothing away from their families. Not Getting paid extra for that show and then they just had to pack up and drive to the a smackdown building. The ones that were being used on Rodney just had nothing to do. I mean that's it. Think about all those weeks where you know W E does Whatever they do I mean? They're they're international shows where people need to be flown to the last minute. Their international shows with their flown home at the last minute for something else I mean they. They're needed Operation is almost. I don't know you know he we we interesting way down the line what this company looks like and how it actually goes for it because the type of operation that he wants it to be. It's like you need needs so many more production people you need so much more. But even if he had all of that he changes his mind. You know on a whim. It's it it blows. My mind is amazing because nobody ever talks about the guys who build the ring and the guys who are putting the rigs driving the trucks and all that sort of stuff I mean people people forget about what kind of impact this is going to have on all those sorts of people. You know it just you know the ones who are actually on the ground for about the office workers and all that that sorta stuff but the people who are actually on the ground with all of this sort of stuff. It's gotta be. It's such a daunting thing. Go to the phones. You're on the air what's going on. How's it going Brian? How's it going? My it's Frankie for Chicago and I wanted to quickly talk about something from smackdown but I also still dwelling under Natalia. SASHA SASHA BANKS LINE from raw and you know it's kind of weird thinking about how two months ago Moxley came up with that interview with Jericho about having to say say things he didn't want to say about Roman reigns leukemia. And not that. That's like a for for Doty to change but considering one of its former top stars just talked about how how very offensive. WB script and can be. It's just kind of like a good sign up. The whole can't teach an old dog new tricks when it comes to this shock. He'll the scripting. It's the one time where they don't mind like putting themselves in the realm of pro wrestling in the bad taste storage cleopa wrestling in some of this way. I mean look look at the reaction from outside Vinci's Snow Globe that the Charlotte read stuff or Eddie and and Randy Orton and array at anytime. This is done and this. It's been more than that over the years. I mean you know so it just the fact that they will continue to go to this and then kind of like well. You know this person would like it or this. Somebody would say it's okay. It's like I think we're no matter what it is. I think we are past using the sort of stuff if it's out saying it's in the same realm as the gun but like you know there's a difference between Pallbearer or somebody like that you know who would love for eternity to be. He continued to be used in pro wrestling storylines after his death. He doesn't care how he's us. But when you start doing things like this with the Jim Knight hard thing and when to tell you I don't care it just never comes across dropped the ball they drop the ball and that's me right. What happened here? Thanks buddy well no we had a Go back we got dropped off and so we are era coming back on right now. Everybody all right so anyway. Here's my here's my take on all this everybody so yes I'm sure like I know she'd probably say this publicly and maybe she'd even say this privately I don't know but you probably if he hasn't Italia You know she'd probably say well. You Know My dad was arrested for forever. And you know. He'd probably be thrilled to be involved in storylines today. That's what the wrestlers always say. Now I don't know which ones really believe that. and which ones don't because until they quit like you never hear their real thoughts. But let's just imagine okay. Let's imagine that these are Nazis actual real thoughts. Okay I'm paying tribute to my father by putting him in an angle. He's being used used to set up a storyline. Where I'll be used on television? In as a way to get heat he would have. He would have loved to be involved if he were alive. You know whatever. Let's just say okay. That's what her honest thoughts are. Okay so Carrie. Fisher died after Filming Star Wars eight or whatever was right. Okay so now they gotta do the Star Wars Nine and it was actually this big controversy whether they should see. Gee I her into do the ninth film. Like if I'm Carrie Fisher this is me personally. Okay and I died and like the opportunity was for me to be in the ninth film. They were just GonNa CGI. Face somebody. I'd be like dude. Go for it okay. But to a lot of to a lot of normal people pull like the idea of doing that is is very controversial. It's disrespectful I mean this was like a big thing so the point and I'm trying to make here is whether it's an actor being cg I'd or whether it's an Italia using her dead father in storyline it doesn't really matter adder. What the people involved think about it? What matters is what the outside world thinks about it like natty and Sasha Russia like they can all be fine with this heart family like everybody internally can be fine with this but to the normal people the non wrestling people outside that are watching the show? It's like what a bunch of creeps. What a low rent company to be talking about a guy who's actually dead and having someone one out there saying well I'll see you in hell with your Daddy? I mean to a normal person. This is appalling and like to me if I'm running a company I don't I don't want to do anything that normal people find completely appalling in a bad way. That's what this is but they see it as oh my God would create heat. It was such. It's great heat that Nannies out there crying and they're giving her the what treatment was. Yeah I mean we saw the same thing with Roman reigns. It wasn't even that long ago. It's not like you know we can compare it to when we had the Eddie's inhale line from rain you're in two thousand six like that totally sucked but at least you can go dude Vince. Eight remembering some from two thousand six. I'm sure he thought it worked. Even though it clearly did it. That was thirteen years ago. This wasn't thirteen years ago. It was last year and it was an epic failure failure. And he's doing the same damn thing again and let me tell you something. If it didn't work with Dean Ambrose Roman reigns in the shield it sure as hell ain't GonNa work with Sasha Banks. Thanks and NATTY. I guarantee it work with Paul bearer. Jerry lawler's mom or you know it didn't Taivon live in place as important and even if he thought this is something i WanNa do right now. The what chance told you everything. It wasn't the time and place to do. It wasn't the person to do it with it. Just no and usually as you said the bottom line should just be no anyway and they gotta pull rank on it but the problem is the people that you expect expect pull rank and it would have to shoot this idea down. They're the ones he is the one that is coming up with it. So what do you do. I mean there's really nothing you can do about. It can get frustrated about it. You can get upset about it but like dean. Ambrose I mean whatever whatever he was supposed to say about Roman was going to be so bad that sponsors were going going to rain Hellfire and brimstone down upon. WWe If that's you know. He says that we still don't know what it is. But then you can't expect them to stop. I mean it it. This is again. This is part of one of many issues with wwe. I mean they cannot read room for for us for for for nothing. What's up with the overacting overreacting from you? Guys in Kim Newman's booking w is going to Shane and Keio at Helen Cell and it with Cain going over so that makes everything they do to hurt Kevin Jones character. Okay because he's winning the end. Okay you've watched the show last night the reaction that he got after they did. All of these promos Brian. Just as many superstars they have and how many he'll tell guy will say he's like this really like who are they. I don't know he'll see him. He's clearly a fan who I mean to him like like. It doesn't matter what you do with these guys like everything is cool. Everything is great but like it's clearly not cool. Great I mean you can look at every aspect of their business. Well Wow. They're down less this year than last year. That's like the big upswing best not an upswing that's a downswing it's just less of a downswing but he murphy was one of the most over guys last night and I loved it yeah. They've been using him well. So Ba- caution cautious I stole. Am with with him again him Ali and Cedric. We'll see how it all turns out but I don't know how many times you can keep beating a buddy you're too. I know he got the win over Daniel Bryan but Lake Jake. You know he's still a punk. He still a rat. He's still not a whole lot right now. Baby face or heel because you know such a jerk to Roman range but then last night. He's like playing a baby face role against against Daniel Bryan. I'm like what. What is this guy? Oh well that's that's the whole thing. We don't know what he is yet so can't get too excited rumors about the WBZ music scene. I will follow up on those. He music scene Last night someone tweeted that the `Ali Nakimora storyline was dropped with Ali replying. Yes there you go. He beat Knock Myrna non title match. And they're just moving onto something else. Cool well he teamed with the Miz against maybe that guy that just Texas and tell me how awesome that is maybe maybe the new. Maybe the new Roman what did you think New Orleans new name should be. It should be like Bruin Luke to something like that. Yeah flowing Martin Martin because of his big beard rowing and flowing you see how it would see the dye job and they couldn't even shave the sides of his head like Rohan to they went through the effort of the digest but they you didn't shave the head. Now all right everybody had to break here in just a moment we will be back to wrap up the show. Everybody stick around back. In a moment wrestling observer live why have thousands of aspiring authors teamed up with Christian Faith Publishing to publish their book because Christian Faith Publishing is an author friendly publisher. Who understands is that your labor is more than just a book? 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But this is a problem that has gone from worse. For example the report says in two thousand African Americans were imprisoned for drug crimes at fifteen times the rate of whites but that ratio had fallen to just under five to one by twenty sixteen. Mike Mohan public new service the best. I'm Dan Hyman for public. New Service member and listener supported an online at public news. Service Dot Org amd going to be a part of fixing this. It's all starting to flow so you can tell you guys kind of understand this kind of stuff so maybe you can explain it to people. Yeah definitely and you're right and I feel like it goes beyond on just thinking positive. It's not just like yeah. Yeah it's going to be perfect. It's actually reconditioning your mind and especially are unconscious mind and I thought so. Linked to belief system which is linked to our unconscious belief system and our unconscious is actually what's driving the shore say even if someone's writing estimates every day and they're like yeah. Yeah Yeah Yeah. But they don't actually get into the unconscious mind. The nothing much is going to shift surf win. We start doing this. You can literally sit down if you're watching US listening to this and ask yourself with with something you want. Manifests like maybe it is getting your kids to this event right and in the Pasu van going. All I don't know if I can blah blah blah all of that in your head. Sit Down and physically purge all of that that out like get out on paper. Just write down all your fears your doubts old stories. You've been telling yourself just get at out in ten page you can rip it out. Do whatever you want right but get a fresh page and from that place ask yourself okay. What does the highest vision may now choose to believe and this is where you write down? I choose to believe that I get to go to this event. I choose just to believe that the money's going to manifest choose to believe that it's going to be easy. I choose to believe that I'm fully supported in this process. And you write it out and you write it out and you ride it out now at the end into this. It's not uncommon to look at this and you don't what will I would love to believe that by aren't right and set them for twenty minutes writing this out you into a place where you're like. Well you've gotTa keep going. It's like a muscle. You don't go to the gym and work out once and all of a sudden has like a six pack it takes time. It's a muscle so you've got to practice it so the next day do the same thing you write down and you know what you keep going on until you got to ride out whatever those beliefs and you can't even remember why you were writing them out because it's already your reality. You would not sit there and Gar. I choose to believes the sky is blue. I choose to believe you'd be like the mets blue. Of course the sky's blue. I'm going to write that out you'll be like of course I'm going to. Of course it has the money to do that. Of course fully supported you. Get to that place where you're actually vibrating with that. And you know the IOS Eh when it shows up in your physical reality but until it's turned up you gotTa keep going you've got to keep doing the workouts as far as we can send your. That's awesome and I wanted to add something something of of of the work. We're going to be sharing on Acapulco because he eats all about what began saying of working with the conscious mind but also learning how to bring the unconscious. Mind nine out of your body because many people work through the mind and the mindset and mindset is fifty percent then it's amazing and as as we're GONNA saying it's not the thing like Oh yeah I am abundance and that's it but it's like if your whole being is saying ninety five percents being saying I'm not good enough I won't make I won't make the money I don't deserve this. I'm not loved all this stuff that we carry that we don't even know it's in ourselves. He goes beyond their mind. You can be repeating whatever you want in the mind by. The nervous system has recorded these. The nervous system is like a machine like a computer that records everything we've lived especially when from zero to seven years that you don't even remember or no. It's all been recorded there so all the work we do all the work should we're going to be sharing. is how to bring the mind out of the body for the body to be free again in you can use the body full of energy vehicle manifestation. That's what the body is instead of being a baggage that you're carrying from your pass you're repeating beating your boss from the memories. You reliving the past constantly eve. You don't ship those memories from your body. Yeah it's pretty amazing for Henry. Personally it's been just last few years I've started to do and understand a lot of these things and a lot of it. was things like meditation. And it's amazing after a couple years just like you said Ed re like you can you can just like anyone. WHO's ever meditated? He could go meditate. Today it's not going to do too much because it's like you gotta just do it every day until it becomes sort of like. It's just just like anything you just have to get better and better at it and that sort of thing and just even the last few weeks I would say I started to notice some thoughts on my head and like you don't really notice them because you're not really aware them until you can kind of work on yourself meditate to a point where you can start to notice them because the kind of almost like in the background and I think everyone's got got them and I can tell a lot of people have actually say them out loud. They say things like I'm not good enough. I can't that's actually programs in their head but I actually started to notice a few of them actually just be like just sitting there. And I'm like what the Heck I just I said I hate. I hate my life and I was like where did that. Come from. And then go into meditation. I'm like WHOA. Where's that coming from? But I was probably saying that most of my life those sort of things and when you're saying that over and over and you're I don't understand it all because I think understanding a lot better than I do but I think it's just constantly let's track of negative thoughts for whatever reason are in there that you don't even even noticed that. Keep perpetuating negative things in your life yes man. Thank you for sharing that. Because you've just nailed when you said had like in the back of the brain without even knowing but that's what we call the animal brain and that's where we live our survival mode the frontal lobe right here you were our vision is our manifestation connection to the universe or two source or to the sun to the stars however you want to call the spiritual connection you know what your channel opens whatever that is. But he's actually the frontal lobe which is where you have the visions the visuals is what brings the manifestation but we're so used to live in the back of our head which our survival mode of protection. They're going to hurt me. They're going to damage me. I have to protect myself a bath. There's not enough. Let me just struggle more so so that that that shift that we want to do. And that's why I love bringing them physics into the world because what you were saying many people when we start talking about this like. Oh that's a hippie thing that's one thing but no no. There's no here with quantum physics we can. We can prove how we've been living our lives in the back of our brain in how we can achieve that energy and bring the energy from what we call the palace gate. Actually it's at the back of the brain and when you open that door way through through meditations or the practices that we guide it opens up. It starts building the Carlos. That's what connects the left and right side of the brain. Both of them start connecting which is the masculine and the feminine side we start entering carmody that balancing our lives in we start getting to a place that we can. We feel unstoppable. We feel so connected to life and to ourselves and to our mission because we start building that mount and power that comes from within but you gotTa build it build it from the back of the brain start flowing all into into the front the law. That's where you activate the gamma brainwaves. which are the abrasive bliss of abundance of feeling so good with yourself and with life life but we gotta do the work in order to bring them in? They're not gonNA Happen Law and really simply put everyone has a mind and has not conscious minden in has an energy field and a body and and it's like a system and the system. It's like a computer. The computer needs a program to run on. And so what happens most of the time. It's running on an old old program and it's running from these old programs from a childhood or even from family lineage. If you look up epigenetics proven that this stuff is passed down through DNA past life stuff you know they could be many different elements as to why these programs are running. But you know like I friend base that you every few months and it's like system updates software UPDATE UPDATE NAP date shot up to the updated assistance. Like that true when we go to step into something new when we go into a new frequency bandwidth when we step into a new layer of vision. When we take back Powell F in in another way we have to clear out the old programs and actually create these new programs to run on? That's a lot of the core of that. We dare you know what I'm talking thing about money. So many people have so many bad sorta thought ideas in their head about money and not even mentioned by name Larkin. Rose is one of the top speakers in Arca Coco. He never seems to have any money. He's always scared to ask for money. He's he feels bad about get receiving money and I think this is also another program. That's just an a lot. The people and I don't know why that is exactly and you know some people will say well money's really bad coffee fell you want is money. You're bad person. Yeah if all you really want is money so you can have lots of stuff so you can show off and you feel powerful and all this sort of stuff. Yeah that's Kinda stupid but money in itself to me is just energy is just a transmission one of energy from people. So if someone's doing something and they give something to you that you want you give them back in the form of money some energy as well and I think think of people just really have a kind of a a lot of people not not everyone but a lot of people of almost limit themselves just through their beliefs on their own worth and on things like money. Yeah absolutely and we see this all the time and you know when it comes to money yes energy and we also love to see it as an amplifier. Right right and so ultimately it's going to amplify essence of who you are Sir if you're really greedy and selfish and I wanNa do good things in the world and you don't have money will. Are you just doing that on a small scale and if you didn't get money then maybe more people will know about you. Enter you disturbed rich greedy selfish things on on his side to scale. But it's the same thing if you'll someone with pure Hod in humble hot of service and you WANNA leave this will place and you don't have any money in resources to do that. Well you're going to do that on a really small-scale and that's a choice or you can choose to manifest large amounts of energy through money and tap in and have that amplified and actually the world a better place because at the end of the day whether we like it or not we I in this money system and yes it's now evolving and shifting and there's a lot of movement and a lot of stuff going on on right now which is really exciting but we are still in a world where there is this monetary exchange sir if it's just years sitting by herself but you daren't hit the capacity to manifest breath and tap into more money than the scale of the impact you able to create is a lot smaller and it's a lot harder to do so as well Yep I love that for me. I also see money like we see a rebel from the system. Right all all our rebels that I know you can have. We'll have a rebel inside right and we're like rebelling against society and what is that find other ways to work does not without money. I've done that all all my life might have always done. Exchanges with people exchanges of energy like so much and people have common learn with me through exchange like I love that exchange too but I don't feel like that is going to take away from the money that's okay. We're creating our own system in one day. We won't be working with the regular money that we know off. That's for sure by. That's where we got right now so why might as as well open up and make the best out of it and help as much people as we can live the best life ever that we can enjoying every cell every minute of it and use it in the best way we can. It's not about who owns the money it's about what's what are we doing with the money. Yeah it's like kind of negative wounded winded rebels face against money against the money system. You're going to be blocking that. And then you also blocked fuel capacity to open three curiosity to new money. Systems that are emerging Zhang that are available in. This storm is coming through. Christoph is working so deeply on a lot of that right now in helping a lot of people wake up to that. But if you're sitting there and you'll rebel going. Money is the root of all evil evil. Then you're not going to have access to even the new and credible monetary systems. That are actually trying to fly through right now. Yeah even that old saying in which of course gets implanted in our brain. A lot of stuff is just programming. Money is the root of all evil is actually I believe the actual saying in the Bible was the love of money is the root of all evil and actually I was kind of say yeah. Greed is pretty bad. Like it's one of the worst things out there and that's what you're talking about about ego and wants and need and all of a sudden scarcity and all these sort of things but people get that one saying kind of screwed up and they're like money's the root of all evil money's just a tool just like anything else and you point out rightfully this money system that most people using the world today I try not to use it but almost always have to because most people in the world today still use government government currencies but That is actually yes absolutely terrible system. And that's as you pointed out. We're trying to create new systems cryptocurrencies. So we can get away from that horrible. Able sort of slave essentially control centrally planned control grid structure into a free structure. Where everyone where you actually become? You'll actually hold your own currency in your own brain if you want using cryptocurrency and he actually become your own banks So that's a pretty amazing sort of stuff but yeah just to get back to the point of of a lot of people have this very negative sort of thing about money and all of them seem to have no money and and there's other people who seem to be very very kind of like like you guys are and a friend of mine like jobe weeks comes to mind He's just so about money's again. Make lots of money and you know we're GonNa do this awesome do that. And he's always got lots of money and like you said it's a it's a mindset thing you know I don't know what you guys think about this there's this sort of law of attraction sort of Thing and there's the saying you create your own reality and to some extent. I kind of think both those things are real but how real is all this stuff. Jeff Flake what kind of a funny question. Because I don't think anything's all that real but like like for people out there that probably I actually understand had done a lot of this stuff now but like when you say you create you know like when you fix your mind and get that doing the right thing all of a sudden you create things things like what extent. I'm very confused how it all works But it actually appears to be true true. That's that really early if you if you can just change your mind all of a sudden your life changes and it's almost unexplainable to me. Does this make sense to you guys because just notice this happens and and just go this kind of works as we were saying. It's all quantum physics and the thing is we can we can. We can prove his right. Now it's really all about energy and more than the affirmation and the law of attraction the years that works but that's like fifteen fifteen percent of what we have available if we add to that that the unconscious mind in releasing whatever is holding us back those beliefs but as we said before those programs programs need to be changed from the core of our nervous system. It's not just the mind of people were just on the brain. But you on allies the brain. The brain goes right back down into the pelvic bone and from the tailbone it expands. It's all the way out into the toes and the fingers like the minds everywhere. We can't see the mind just in the brain and that's why we're all about embodiment. It's the whole thing. Like every cell needs to be reprogrammed. Every cell needs to be awake and back to its its natural state. Because that's all we're doing we've coming back to our natural state abundance Eastside natural state. Well our natural state if we're not living that is because got something is blocking at something on the way we're not letting these flow happened because we're all full of ideas we'll have the capacity to be an inner genius with with thousands of projects coming through that are going to help millions of people are gonNA create so much money that's just going to be shared with the world. That's our natural state but in in order to live and he's not just repeating it and affirmation and reading a book right. You GotTa do the work constantly like what are you thinking. What are you thoughts aligned to? What are your emotions? Are you in a low vibration emotional you constantly angry constantly frustrated or are you constantly grateful feeling good celebrating life because it's really a gain gain. It's the game of manifestation in order to play the game the winner of the gave me the gratitude. The gratitude acting from gratitude living from gratitude lead. Let Bill Gratitude. Be Your natural state. When that happens from the core of your be- you start emanating these energy? You can measure with machines. You can mess. You can take big photographs of this. You can see how much light is. Emanated from your nervous in. This is no and this light energy is what caused the same back to you. So whatever sainal. You're in meeting out your broadcasting be signal our out as the antena that we are because we are like like cost crossed me and Tina's here and we're vibrating something. We're sending always societal out into the universe. What is that sign is a sign of? I'm not good enough in have to struggle and like some Bay will happen or societal. Like it's already done. I'm already aligned to that and and just being grateful because that's already happening in my life and the universe gets you back so fast if you're aligned with this energy but it's a lifestyle as we said before is let it be your lifestyle instead of being gene half an hour practice of let me get aligned in the right by Bryan thank you. Yeah I just remember. There was a video by Josh Mason of Detox Fox. Deeds and he's going to be coming to America pocos well and he was talking a lot about this stuff about money and how he had that switch click in his brain and you went from never having any money to having lots of money because actually he brought up a gratefulness was the biggest part of gratitude. So he would say anytime even pay for anything he'd just give gratitude so so when he went to pay for his rent he said in the past he felt all angry. It's like who is this guy. Why do I have to pay rent for this house? And now when he pays anything like is ranch. He's like thank you so much. Thank you you have this place that I can live right now. Thank you gratefulness. All this sort of stuff and actually said one thing that he actually went to a counselor sort of a thing about money which was very interesting and I think think of us. That's quite good to do. And the guy told him thing and Josh said at the time he thought the guy was just crazy and the guy said there's no difference between being rich and and feeling rich so if you actually don't have a lot of stuff but you feel rich there's no difference between that and actually being a billionaire or anything like that because if you actually feel feel that way then you're just like Bill Gates actually your way better and Bill Gates Bill Gates as messed up but that is interesting. It's a lot about mindset and so I'm really glad you guys great to me you guys like we could probably talk for hours. You're totally on the kind of stuff that I'm into right now. All this sort of awakening consciousness sort of stuff and and and I'm just learning a lot about this stuff and so many people in our ca poker talking about this really glad you guys are coming down really excited. We haven't really decided how you're going. It'd be speaking or what you might be doing. Or maybe he'll workshop. I don't know but maybe you guys can just mentioned in the meantime What you do people can follow you any any any sort of things that you might be doing that people might be interested in right now? Yes we've run a lot of different live events and retreats. We speak all over the world. We have online products and causes. The place probably is an old. My social media is under Reagan Hillier and then it's regan hilly dot com one. Bob Look Barrena little harder to get that. 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It's Friday in November twenty nine th two thousand nineteen. It's the weekly Bitcoin. Cash News. Update lots lots happening This week in every week in the world that bitcoin cash because there's so many passionate people people around the world that are excited about peer-to-peer trying to cash bring more economic for the world and one of the examples of that is the world blockchain summit happening in Bangkok. This coming week Also cover a major announcement from travel. bitcoin cash developers discussing your formal specs for the project. Go crypto token is now trading on the bitcoin in dot com exchange and finance acquired a peer to peer exchange called Wasser ex So first on the list here. The world blockchain summit is in Bangkok this week. BITCOIN DOT comments proud to be a media partner for the world blockchain summit taking place December first and second in Thailand. I wish I could go. 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And they're going to be integrating woz REX's peer to peer engine directly into the Finance Fiat Gateway Platform allowing users to trade any cryptocurrency finance using USD So one final piece of news. That's not my show notes to is. I'm sure everybody's heard about it. The United United States government has arrested shoot lead developer and his name is slipping Virgil. What the Heck's virgils last name there so anyhow virgil has been arrested by the United States current for going to North Korea to tell them about how crypto currencies works he literally gave speech in North Korea and the US government claims they own him and one of the things they smeared him with? Is that Oh. He was looking into renouncing his U. S. citizenship because he's been living outside of the US forever so the North Korean government is absolutely awful. Like I was invited to go to that same conference I said absolutely not. I'M NOT GONNA go because I was scared of the North Korean government but it turned out but I should have been even more afraid of the American government than same goes for Virgil so Virgil Thank you for trying to make the world a better place. The people living in North Korea north North Korean regime are victims. Just like the people living under the American regime or victims. I look forward to a day when everybody gets to declare independence for themselves individually rather than not celebrating elaborating these nationalistic independence days for entire nation states. So each individual themselves in their own life. That's my cryptocurrencies are so great. Because the empower individuals whether they're in North Korea or United States or Saint Kitts or anywhere else for that matter to be able to control their own running their own finances. And that's why I'm involved day in and day out every day and if you support this message here excited about it. 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Yeah so so context there is what's happening is as society begins to become more interconnected through the Internet. And it's still happening your tickets later. We are getting into a situation where the contracts can be written not just by attorneys paid for by the wealthy but by other for each other and so I think the most powerful so for example of this actually has the crypto community right like I mean smart contracts exactly. Humans of Bitcoin is part of the BITCOIN DOT com. PODCAST network this is John McAfee and you are listening to through Bitcoin. Dot Com podcast. Hello hello welcome to humans bitcoin because this is your host Matt Aaron. Listen there's been a lot of podcast on bitcoin not just on the BITCOIN DOT com podcast network but all over the Internet itunes and Youtube. And let's face it. There are some of the same guests that tend to go on. Those shows a lot of similar topics a lot of unique things that I said especially on this show having said that it's important to talk to people outside of the direct bitcoin community and instead go a circle outside lied of the bitcoin world and bring people that are doing really inspiring things that are related to bitcoin. Like data privacy. You know obviously the two thousand eight banking in crisis fueled the BITCOIN movement. Well this person is fueled by the two thousand Seventeen Equifax heck he is filing the largest class action objection in US history. And and he's not even the lawyer he's one of those polymath who learns many different things and has a lot of success in so many industries. Ruben metcalf while I was very impressed by him for many reasons and he's going to break down what he's doing and related all back to the circle of rights as law digitises power decentralizes entreprises and the enforcement cycle which all relates to bitcoin and changing money also worth noting we just launched the bitcoin cash out in Venezuela has has he no but it was announced two days ago in Toronto at the BITCOIN. Cash meet up that BITCOIN DOT COM will be opening bitcoin. Tash houses in South Sudan. Zimbabwe and Ghana. It's very exciting. Because as you know education is fifty percent of adoption and creating these education centers hopefully hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands of them. We'll help teach people. Why would love cryptocurrency so much and what it can do for the world? Okay without further ado here. Is Ruben that gaff from class action you think. Dot Com Ruben Macaque welcome to humans bitcoin. Thanks for having been here. Yeah and your man on a mission Mrs Sunday Sunday morning for you late morning for me. We're recording. I'm here in Montreal. Your San Fran. Don't take too many days off. Yeah I think. I don't think it's uncommon. An start up land. Yeah you get the timing right. Yeah it's interesting because we were talking about the coal scarcity of attention and for my experience entrepreneurs orange waste a lot of time employee was loved. I'm too mean that it's hard to always be on alway sufficient and I think we all have those moments where we're like we get our computer. We open up our business team chat whether telegram were slack. Or you know have a doctor not really doing anything for an hour and I was like man i. I should've fully shut down. It's like either fully worker Down because it's very important to filter that noise for clear thinking in better strategy and cobb eliminate some of that kind of working at thirty percent initiative. Yeah there's definitely an inverse relationship between the hellfire you push yourself and the efficiency or even if the of that of that work work product right but there's a balance as you know it's it's different for different folks. I'm probably sitting around. I'm told I'm informed by my wife that I'm sitting around eighty hours right now while you're New Zealander but seven years in the US. I think you've probably seen this that in the United States there's so much focus on input. Almost there's like what does this I think I need to be busy. and He'd be hardworking. It's looked down upon did be delays and not hard working right you know. I work hard as a value. And that's not necessarily a bad quality but there's probably too much focus on input and not enough focus on output output. But you really WANNA looking at. Yeah sure so the real question is what are you working for and I mean ribbon. What are what are you working for you? Yeah oh I'm glad you asked so right now. I'm building coming. Coal Class Act Inc Ann Inc and we are trying to reshape. Basically trying to make class actions not suck is hard so the context there is every year. There's about twelve hundred class. Actions filed against various government departments and corporations and even individuals US and third of those will be dismissed from the court will fail to meet certification for for whatever the reason not come to a conclusion and then a third of the settlements. And if you add up all the settlements that works out to be about twenty billion dollars and exchange for those settlements what's being waived is about two trillion dollars or certified liability that's liability that survived dismissal certification. So if you WANNA simplify it you got corporate entities government entities and others who have about two trillion dollars worth certified harm. And they're saying sorry with about twenty billion dollars. I'm sorry money one percent. Yeah that is the that is the key ratio. Let a lot of folks mess that goes out out to the form of settlements and the crazy thing about the settlements is only seven percent of people are actually fine clamps if you look at the eligibility ratio of the average person and whether or not they're part of a class action and how often that is the average person US residents about a part of a class action to about three or four times a year. But they're only finally one claiming three five five years so Americans should be following about a little billion claims a year and they're falling about sixty eight million. So does it make sense. It does and class action harm done by unusually these are larger corporations in terms of the percentage liability right. I'm sure there's small companies and so the Equifax is something can generally related to big one in your. That's what we're GONNA do on today's show. We're GONNA talk about Rubin's interesting history as an entrepreneur and thinker and tie that into Bitcoin kind of data privacy and freedom of data. And so that's the goal of the show will give an update of course on the equifax objection at the end. But I want to to start out with you. Rabin dropped out of high school in New Zealand. Is this normal behavior. All the way over there it is not but for better and worse I am effectively. I basically am my dad minus thirty years and we're both extremely stubborn so it was his way or the highway and I chose the latter and we get on well now but yeah I left home and school fifteen thousand jobs and start a bunch of companies and here. We are and very quick. The lifestyle Marie right there from running away from home unless remind a little bit there but wasn't musician. I mean one of the most interesting thinks that stands out to me. I mean you're like a teal mentor. Peter Thiel revered amongst our listeners and myself but even before that like the space travel travel space travel and joining businesses around space travel right tells the audience a little bit about that so just think about startup weekend. It's a bit like the McDonald's version of a hacker. Thon if you will you get a bunch of people together and you try to build something every weekend but it's GonNa be a real business right and so I was participating in one and I thought you know. What can I build that sort of pulled out a list of ideas that I would choose to pursue if I had the time and attention to do it because I was running some other project at the time and I thought you know? Pick one and I'll also bring into the startup weekend and the one that I picked was just a really simple idea. which was if it's expensive to go to space? Is there a way where I could pay a small amount of money for a chance to go to space right so Virgin Galactic Richard Branson's project to get us all into space. Tourism had been sort of launched proverbially sort of surely there before that so. It's two hundred thousand dollars to buy a ticket to go to space. You Get up there for eight minutes with about even even other people above the Karman Line hundred kilometers up in the sky and you hang out for a few minutes and you come back down. I didn't have two hundred thousand dollars to buy for my space tourism budget. But I figured figured you know what if you could buy a ten dollar chance to go to space and then if you get enough of those people you can give somebody the real ticket you buy the ticket and maybe twenty percent margin something like that. Say Twenty five thousand people ten dollars each so we did that and I learned that what. You're not allowed to sell a small piece of paper and quote a lottery or Raffle. Second I start. The violates all sorts of international law. What you can do them by the way the two hundred eighty billion dollar industry and most of the reasons why violation of initial gaming laws because it turns governments a lot of money so that that is a bit of a lock up there but I learned what you can do is you can tell us a piece of paper and you call it a poster? So now you're a poster company company that is running a sales promotion as defined by the New Zealand gambling. Act of two thousand and three so we were selling posters and I remember getting a letter from Arkansas. No Alaska Alaska Aska reached out to us and said you better not be your raffle tickets to our Alaskan residents and is it. Is it okay for Alaskans to buy digital posters off company in New Zealand end because if they can we would love to give go to space as well and they said we applaud under entrepreneurial endeavors. We recommend you get an attorney. It was fine. I like your Alaskan accident by the way if there was excellent. Oh yeah so so. That was interesting We didn't get the required threshold to follow through. And so we hit about the two thousand people mark and either. Do we raise funds for this and try to do it for real or do we want to you know follow and so we did a letter. We gave them a refund. Data Tikolo these. He's sort of all this stuff would learn. Put it up on a blog post. This is a cool idea. I still think it's cool idea by the way but if anyone wants to chase this please reach out and we'll help you get up to speed paid because we learned about just up during the during that time so spaces super cool idea. I think that fractional space ticketing represents a mechanism for which we might be able to pour money into into the space industry which distantly needs it and is having trouble getting it without going through governments alone and I think if there's a way to sort of capture the collective the aspirational value for people and allow them to engage in a financial mechanism to launch. So to speak than I think that's super valuable and I think we're we're starting to see some of that now as these space. Companies the public SPACEX is doing some pretty incredible work over there but also virgin galactic. Is I think recently went public or is looking to do so. Yeah it'll take. Well it'll happen. It just takes time really quick twenty-second over. What are some of the cool things? Going on at SPACEX. Oh Boy Starlink. That's the that's the devil sword that want so for context we have about thirteen hundred overdose bodies a right now right satellites and so on this is November two thousand nineteen and I mentioned the date. Because that's GONNA change soon. Starlink is a musk's attempt to ads but the satellite bandwidth which effectively as a global telecommunications nations company. It's a huge play picture. If you will to the extent that you receive data from space on your phones expect the availability the ban with expect everything to uptick by one or more orders of magnitude in the next ten years. It's going to be a big deal now. There's there's a lot of issues with that as well right. Because all of a sudden astronomers who were used to dealing with you know a few satellites passing through between them and Alpha Centauri. They're probably no longer interested. But you know they might have to deal with a few passing over the screen so to speak. They're now seeing dozens and dozens of satellites passing over their screens of the The the light path. And so there's basically get busier. Basically reasonable rockets are a big deal costs per pound into orbit reasonable rockets. Just because you can go into orbit cheaper yes so it used to cost about ten thousand dollars per pound of mass to get into space and it's getting closer to like I wanNA say somewhere around one hundred dollars maybe less mark which is a big deal so use the cost like thirty thousand dollars or sent a watermelon into space and now we're talking three three hundred bucks that same watermelon. Yeah I don't WanNa go as low as three hundred sounds too low but I do know that is changing significantly like it is if if not having more than having which is a big deal right. Yeah and listen I mean I think that the whole idea. You're listening to heartland newsfeed radio network network live twenty four seven at heartland newsfeed dot com. 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Because that's what we do here on free talk live but I got one that I thought this would probably catch people's music mark. I do nick. Yeah I got a story out of Illinois coming from the Telegraph. Which of course you've got to get You gotta get a Great Britain to get good news stories on this kind of stuff but are there. Journalist analysts better. I don't know at least report. They report on different things. They're not worried. Probably not worried as much about you know spewing some truth about data about the US because if you As a journalist in the US you start talking bad about some of the big money or what might be big. Money Influence You you know you might have some problems. Journalists get fired here. Maybe they're less. They can be a little more truthful. Maybe when they're not talking about their own you know particular jurisdiction it seems like the only thing journalists want to talk about right now the impeachment proceedings You know I mean I'm I was listening to NPR. Today I had some some errands to run. And it's one of the talk stations in town. There's another one and I just thought I'd listen in to the impeachment proceedings and they just kept going oh all I listening to NPR. Here's the impeachment proceedings. I'm like all right. I'll listen for a little while. And they just kept going and going and going. It's not like it was a little piece of it. It was the whole all day programming on random. podcast I listen to throughout the day out a lot of it's been about impeachment and even like you know Jesse Ventura and Jimmy Door. There's they're saying like well. The mainstream media is all about impeachment. What else is going on around? You know they are wagging the dog so you don't. Let's see what the tail is doing. I'm not sure what is going on otherwise but I can tell you this Like it gave me an opportunity to be sort of introspective about this. Yes because I can tell you my feeling is this is dumb This is a bunch of To do about nothing I've liked to call it a Democrat for Benghazi Gazi. So you know we had all those hearings about Hillary Clinton and you knew nothing was going to happen and I tend to think nothing's going to happen if anything that they're accusing trump of happen to Obama or to Hillary it. Nobody would even wouldn't even care wouldn't even be media-worthy and one wonders whether you know the I've certainly some chief executive in the past recent past has withheld have held something in order to get something out of another country. I mean what they're calling a quid pro quo which is against the law. It's just it's A. It's a way of bargaining basically a quid pro quo. is common. I would think in business and politics in these sorts of things doesn't surprise me. I don't think there's anything wrong with the chief executive investigating what might very well be a crime. What would you say the actual? I don't really have a good one formulated. The actual definition of quid pro quo is if you buy my product. I'll buy yours okay and you know. That's that's right that makes sense. Yeah that's basically it so now so I've got to look at myself. That's where I'm falling on this. I'm falling on I guess pro-trump side is. I think I think this is kind of silly. And the Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah you scratch my back. I'll scratch yours. And there's there's no proof of this. Even I was listening to Ed disguises socialist Jimmy door which. He's actually really good on a lot of like this stuff. I don't know if you've heard of Jimmy Doll. I don't know the name. She's like this comedian. He goes around doing his stand up comedy. Comedy routines was all political. And he's been just destroying the Democrats About the impeachment stuff and this guy is a democrat. And and he's there he's been he's like impeach him for dropping bombs and over in foreign countries impeach him for you know the the Non Central Venezuela China. Nonsense here nonsense air. which is you know? All that stuff is more Democrats more guilty of that. As far as I'm concerned than trump is in there and as we know they're not gonNA talk about it but there's a reason to impeach guy but Jimmy Dr was playing some clips of the the one guy somewhat senators asking them like so. Did you listen to this phone call. Oh Yeah and where was the quid. Pro Quo what. Where did this happen? Well it was my opinion or something guy I forget exactly okay who the allows ploughing snow. Yesterday I was listening and but it just you know anytime like what so when Bill Clinton got impeached over the nonsense on central of the Monica Lewinsky thing. I think that was a total BS impeachment. But how'd you feel at the time at the time I who cares if the do you got a little love and from. I'm an intern. That's like you know I was a teenager to time. You know the way I felt about it. That's a man who has his finger on the red button and can can knoop any Senate nuke anywhere in the world. And if his old lady didn't give them enough relief Dan. I'm happy someone else's air too. frigging do it. You know so distress. Wouldn't come in now that that was a teenager. Yeah in my case I was. You Know I. I was sort of unimpressed. By the reasoning for the The the the impeachment but I was a Republican and I want to see it happen and I suspect there's plenty of people in America that feel the same way. Only they're Democrats Kratz. They want to see it happen and listening. I think my opinion has changed on the subject. And here's why It's not that I think you know the guilty or anything like that. I think that one of the constitutional scholars that was testifying today. SORTA made what I consider to be a pretty good point. which was that? These message is needs to be sent that the president can't continue to grow their power to the point of being a king and if an impeachment occurs then Dan it it is a it is not going to go through the Senate in all likelihood in which case. It's just a bad. It's just bad news for the Democrats So you know. I don't have any problem with that in the election. Fine with that or be it. Sins and be probably sends a message to presidents in the future that hey this is now in a peachable thing whatever it is and I guess. I want the president's to tread lightly so I don't I don't WanNA leader I wanNA public public servant as a president and I wanted to be frigging scared of the people. I want the cops to be scared of the people. I want all the politicians to be very very afraid of torches pitchforks and if the Republicans get mad and then go ahead and impeach the next Liar and thief that takes over the headliner in thief position. Good Yeah and if the Democrats get get mad and they go ahead and teach the next one and then it goes ping pong back and forth excellent. Because I'll tell you what I don't know what the United States government has done in the last last month but I'm GonNa say probably not much knew that there's not many new laws that have gone through because everybody's wrapped up in this impeachment thing from what I I understand. Now when I remember I was about seventeen ish. Maybe sixteen when the Clinton impeachment was happening and I used to listen to this guy. Chuck harder on shortwave radio. He did Radio Jio Three D.. Recall Charro anything on shortwave makes me chuckle and anyways when I was fourteen years old. That was when Nafta was happening thirteen fourteen years years old and actually wrote an essay about Nafta my seventh grade English class and my dad bought from chuck harder for like sixty eight bucks they sent you to hold Nafta Treaty came like. Do you ever buy a big box of print paper like the biggest single box you can buy. Yeah that's what it came in staples and they've got this box of several dozen reams or reams of papers like forty six hundred pages and then there was like eighty page like cliff notes. I that came with it to basically bought cliff notes and you got the whole darn thing. I think shipping cost more back in the day than I bet but it was like sixty eight bucks on my dad bought it and so I I did this whole report on it at shortly after that was the Lewinsky thing Monica Lewinsky or or and what had actually happened and charter. Carter was talking about this. Chinese trade accord was going on and Hillary was is huge with Walmart to her her law. Firm that she worked for a rose law firm was like the Big Walmart representative. You know they're based out of Arkansas Walmart and so they may decide trade deal. Well I can tell you before the Hillary and pinch before the Clinton impeachment They were making egg cartons like crazy and thorndike Massachusetts. where I grew up? There was a bunch of these mills. They were making all kinds of textile products and things and shortly after. That is when that parking lot didn't have any more cars in it anymore. Drive by like and so that was a wag the dog situation. So what's going on now does going on we don't know about. And you know these bastards in government these parasites always take advantage of the masses. Being distracted. Always do what is going on. The numbers offers eight five. Five four five zero three seven three three. Maybe you've got some insight. It's eight fifty five four fifty free as in free talk live. And don't forget our discord lines. 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What would you send more J. Noon but we also you tend? More Carla. Garrick agreed. So what she's been doing lately she's actually managed to Hijack facebook for liberty. How not this sounds remarkably unlikely to go ahead and doing a good job at it actually all right so I guess they had this thing? Expect called giving Tuesday or something. They expect this point in time. Where if you give a certain amount of money to a cause or something like that facebook matches it okay and so she did that for the Free State project all right so I don't you know I think it's too late now? Does facebook make a big deal about it. I don't understand so I mean basically. She got her dollars matched by a a facebook. Yeah there's some sort of first-come-first-served thing I think. They were matching up to seven million dollars. I I don't know how the details worked. Nobody nobody. The first people that donated got their donations matched by facebook. And you can donate the five hundred five zero one three that I was impression move. Move back to see them re purposed for a better purpose. Well there you know another thing. Carla's been doing is I've watched a couple of them now and she's been when Denisov facebook live shows with a couple of local like city or county like politicians and But one thing I really appreciate about Carla is that like. She's just got a good way of presenting a libertarian. Carrying idea without going too far an upsetting you know while like liberals are hardcore conservatives. She's actually she's pretty good at that and And when you offend somebody no matter how right you are. You're just not successful successful system and convincing people of anything I mean I call it dumping gas on seeds instead of Planting them in the ground essentially. Yeah and she does the job planting seeds of liberty. Yeah for those. That don't know her. Background Jeep Brand for the New Hampshire Senate twice unsuccessfully on the Republican infinite a ticket and she was also He was arrested for trying to film the where Police Department during a traffic stop and she took in federal court and got this settlement out of Yup. She did a good job there. That was I believe. The Guy was that Kelly that she actually sued. was he the one sergeant. Sergeant Kelly that arrested her for wiretapping. I don't remember that but I do know that. One of the one of the officers was involved in her arrest and chaining her to Opole by the way with I think he he got a lot of trouble later on shot somebody. I think it's the same same guy. Yeah he got shot. A Guy Dunkin donuts. Parking lot as guy was leaving once he found out that it was a setup and he was getting busted for basically basically in trafficking the wrong species a salad. Well Dave thanks for the call. Eight five five. I four five zero three seven three three. It's eight fifty five four fifty free. Got An article here from the Telegraph and this was surprised me. I didn't expect expected to come across my desk the way it did but here it is a city in Illinois has announced it will create a reparations fund for its African African-american Community through new tax on marijuana sales now. I'm unclear how they connect marijuana sales to reparations Asians. But there's the lead in the story recreational use of the drug will become legal in the state from January From January and officials in Evans since an odd way to phrase that in Evanston Illinois which is twelve miles. North of Chicago have voted to approve a three percent tax on the sales of marijuana to fund local reparations programs the tax is expected to generate between a half a million and three a quarter million dollars annually for the reparations fund which will be capped at a total of ten million dollars over the next ten years. The city's lawmakers will meet the next week to determine exactly how the fund will be distributed. And I think that's the most important part of all this. I'm not entirely against reparations. I think that there's a way to to make an argument for it. So for instance who participated in slavery slavery and also. WHO's the victim whereas victim right? Well you prove your damage. Well I think that Yeah I think a victim can be shown in so much as if If you were if if my ancestor was to get forty acres and a mule and all of my ancestors from that time on had been good with their money than perhaps I would have something maybe forty acres. Maybe more so I think. There's an argument for reparations in that way but I would need to kill the devil's in the details. How about reparations? For All the retirees that lost their money in Enron L.. What what happened to that money? Those guys who went to jail for that. I don't know I lost the money. 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It's it's a joke. What what cannabis tax does that so excessive is it just drives it? It drives black market. I know a bunch of people who use cannabis. I don't think anybody that goes to a dispensary anywhere. I knew a ton of people in Colorado. Oh and none of them went to a dispensary because they just bought it from the same guy always did it and it's cheaper now edge wallet go over there to edge dot APP and download the edge wallet. I think you'll be happy that you did. They are available. It's available for IOS and android models. You can buy sell trade and securely hold crypto currencies in your edge wallet and you're pretty much your whole crypto life can be managed there through Edge the edge wallet as a matter of fact that's their the goal is that you can manage your funds entirely with the edge wallets user controlled. You Control Your own money. It has support for pretty much every major jerk. cryptocurrency out there BITCOIN BITCOIN cash theory. 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I've I've had new monarchs that will will bring all your currencies up and don't really want to say wallet is but I I'm not a hundred percent sure but it's not the edge wallet. No no no wasn't that and it wasn't jacks and anyways is But yeah he was. I mean he didn't have like millions of dollars in everybody definitely sad. Nobody likes to lose money. It definitely lost a few hundred bucks go on with the story from the Telegraph. The city's lawmakers will meet next week to determine exactly how the funds will be distributed but one idea being proposed for the money is to go towards just things like skills training or financial assistance for down payments. On a home in the area the fund will be available to all of the city's black residents rather than merely those that can prove they had an ancestor who was enslaved as long as they can meet certain residency criteria. So they get in cash out of this fund Well it says for training financial assistance down payments on a home in the area. That kind of thing sounds like a overpay. Some you know firm. That's buddy buddy with you know town politicians to do this service right and then Public School residence. Get seventy five cents on the dollar whatever. It is seven cents on the dollar so one of these things that made me wonder. I don't Illinois was a northern state. Exactly how long did they have slavery. They're GONNA a state for a period of for a long time. So I mean is it. Obviously slavery's terrible but I can see how the United States government could be held responsible. I think that slaves were imported in the United States for eighteen years Obviously Great Britain had a much much more much more of a role in this than the. US government did well. I mean if we're going to have these entities that get to to to last forever and ever that I guess they're responsible. Supreme Court said their person's right so they're responsible for their actions. Persons are defined in every statutory construction Emmanuel ever ever read as corporation trust or other legal entity. Yeah per I very clear that I am not a person I exercise the benefits of person You know I say this all the time. I am quite simply a man now so I things Are Per persons. Roy Corpses are trusts are absolutely. Are they responsible for all their actions. In the past and on one side you could say that while the people that That composed whatever government that was Existing at the time they're gone previous right around and or you could say that while the entity remains so the entities responsible for the actions of the dead people corporations only had a charter would last eight years Before the Second World War and it was either Rockefeller Rothschild elder. Bunch industrialist guys had a bunch of power and a bunch of money basically changes around sometime somehow during World War Two but There was professor siege as dangerous. PODCAST has a really good episode about basically the history of corporations and I tell all these people who are like anti-cooperation and hate corporations is that the thing is is corporations exist because government gives them an authority to exist not a single corporation in any state in the United States exists without pending approval of that particular secretary of State's office and basically all corporation get becoming a corporate entity does or creating one is takes liability off the actual people involved and essentially distributed to tax payers in whether it's through insurance churn or whatever but well a corporation is basically the government giving birth so great a great way to put it. It's the right you have. The State and the State is incorporated. You'll you'll note. The towns are incorporated the State's inc they're incorporated so they don't have responsibility for their actions and that's the truth with corporations. The people actually charities all the state all the municipal corporations are registered as charities Massachusetts State. Police are actually actually law enforcement. Councils that are nonprofits register with the IRS and Massachusetts Supreme Court like four years ago ruled in favor of the state. Police saying saying that they did not have to follow the public records request laws because they are not government. Well that's I would disagree with their assessment but That's what they decided to do in Massachusetts move there. You deserve what you get what you deserve. Frankly that's why I left a miserable place but you know when when it comes to to governments I I feel like okay. I think there's an argument to be made. These incorporated entities are responsible for their actions. And certainly the United States it's government Allowed the importation of slaves for eighteen years and allowed the You know the sale and ownership of slaves for decades more than that so. I think there's an argument that there's some responsibility to be had there. Exactly how reparations would go into effect I think is really the the difficulty difficulty here because the devil's in the details and nobody ever gets things without negotiations. This is interesting to me that this this town intends to do reparations. But they haven't decided exactly how that's going to happen. And so I mean the people who get reparations in this town are they no longer longer eligible for any reparations that may come down the pike later I mean I look at. This is so if people's you know Ancestors who were enslaved slave. They're going to get reparations. I mean it was just cool. I'm fine with that as long as I don't have to pay for it and not known anybody but my one of my best friends. His Grandmother Grandmother and grandfather on both sides Were in concentration camps. He had aunts and uncles On that great aunts great uncles at died at las feet that you know did a death march from one concentration camp to another. He's got all the memoirs of his grandmother Mother and stuff that he's been reading and I think he's oats and reparations if these are the ancestors of slaves were owned reputation shouldn't the ancestors of AH victims of the Holocaust victims of the United States government dropping bombs on their weddings who determines who's black who determines who's American can Indian who determines who determines WHO's Jewish. So what if you only had one ancestor who MARLA Greek as an African American. She's from the continent of Africa. A and you know white. It's it's very. This is very complicated stuff. I mean it looks easy and it looks simple. 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Yeah I think it's pretty accurate if you have an income tax on the property tax that they're they're taxing your labor and they're taxing your land. I mean you're not free if you're not free to work and keep the money that you earn. Yeah it's like if you don't like go get a parasite parasites job and engage in his bench massive pension building. And if your pension still holds up you know you're pretty much impossible for the private sector after the working class to actually retire because of life taxes and even when you're done work and you still gotta pay thousands of dollars a year in property tax and and obviously you know that some people will I mean some people will say that you know some slavery is worse than others and that's certainly true. I would agree. I don't think that any slavery three is acceptable. Any any person being able to extract Labor from somebody else without some kind of contract in place is you know that that's fair. Contract and consideration. Yeah because it's not fair at all I would say that it's certainly true that You know black people that were owned in the antebellum south in the eighteen fifty s in the United States probably had. It's certainly headed significantly worse than anybody. Who might be experiencing citizenship today? so let's let's go on here. The move comes amid a renewed national debate over whether the federal government should pay reparations to the descendants of former slaves this summer the House of Representatives. Hell a hearing on a bill which would establish a commission to study how a restitution program would work and several different Democratic presidential candidates have indicated support for the idea so if just out of curiosity if the whole forty acres a meal thing and for those that don't know that slaves Former slaves were promised forty acres meal by. Who did you promise to mark me? You know and they didn't get it. So if they were given forty acres meal would reparations not be relevant at that point and what would would the I mean does anybody think that this forty acres was going to be cleared land You know in a Lush Valley with the the deepest and darkest of soils and this meal was going to be young and well trained and if trained and healthy do do you know what would happen if the forty forty acres and a mule. Well so there's a whole bunch of no-man's-land you know between like New York state in California borders a whole lot of nothing there in California New York between New York State and California. I'll get the United States. Just just fly. There's just nothing. Yeah there's there's some circles or some squares or some lines but pretty much nothing I mean so there's a lot of Arab land that you simply can't grow anything on shirks. There's no water there. I mean there's a lot of high desert I mean but with modern technology analogy. Today you can do it. They are doing it in Mexico and Air New Mexico and Arizona Colorado Nebraska all over the place but at the time that land would've been completely useless and the other thing that would happen is mules become worth a lot. A lot of money like for short time. They'd get really expensive and everybody. The bodies of meals would become extensive because if they dropped a mule off on your desert and It was dead. How you GONNA prove it? It's not like there. Were Cell Camera Cell phone cameras and then Samuel's become really really cheap because ninety nine percent of these people who are going to get the meal and forty acres and sell it. They don't need a meal but they should be getting as a an old Half ton pickup truck and forty acres equivalent of your mule today agreed so pulling suggests the majority of Americans Public Opposes Monetary Reparations while President Donald Trump and other senior Republicans have publicly criticized the idea and I have some criticisms for the idea. I think it's a confusing idea for which I cannot make heads or tails of how it would possibly be implemented right. There's no such thing as free money and I mean you know do you do we. We need to prove that. It's everybody that everybody who's getting it. What percentage of a black Americans what percentage do you have to be black in order to get it so so if you had a slave One ancestor that was a slave in the United States. Do you get it. What about the people who've left the United States who do they get reparations to Because you know some I ancestor could have certainly left and gone elsewhere. What about all this bailout money? That you know was gonNA go bail out. All the people right lost their homes in two thousand resonate. What was the eight hundred billion dollars? Some absolutely that would have been far better. Paid off reparations. Then we can stop having this conversation. Not One single I I got. I got to keep their foreclosed house. I mean what. What's the name and address the idol? Believe is anybody. I've asked this question several times. Who like could prove that the signatures on the documents were bad? Those are people who fought it. Okay so there are people who fought this that prove that there was fraud and as they've always the people who fight it they'd get win but the eight Hundred Billion Dollars Dad. Both Bush and Obama were just all Giddy to give out to you know the tarp tarnished ass out rebel payment thing some people's Loans were not. The whole thing was forgiven but basically they were cut and and they didn't have to pay as much didn't have to pay as much but they still paid three or four times for the House on mortgages three or four times a lot of still paid absolutely all his money but who got the money any was all timothy geithner's friends on everybody went to the banks. I mean that will be clear and I think that it would have been far better off paid to You know any any anyone frankly anyone every crackhead on the street it would have given it to these bankers everybody with the WHO's last name started with a through an m right. I think that would have been a better way to do it or Let's see I'm in that group so let's just go ahead and everybody within through Z.. Sure so I don't care I mean anything would have been better than what they did but this is modern modern day slavery they just keep on printing money out of thin air. I keep on taxing you taxing Several generations to to repay these things that can never be paid where to keep on diminishing value of the current money. You have in your pocket or in your bank account and you literally could not. I have people like Jeffrey Epstein owning his own private islands in having all kinds of sex parties what little girls and friends like printing print Andrew and buddies like the Clintons. You couldn't have this elitist class of really really bad people without to protectionism of government mm-hmm and without the straight up enslavement of the people through. I mean you know the the one hundred sixty million people are our tax slaves essentially essentially in the United States they take from me any returns or filed. Some of the returns are joint return. So it's difficult to know how many people in the I states are tax payers. Want this quote in real Because I think this is relevant Robinson Simmons Alderman. WHO proposed the reparations bill She said the source of the reparations funding was fitting even the federal government's war on drugs campaign disproportionately affected African Americans for several decades. I agree we don't know if this article mentions red lining but redlining was a very real thing in the Chicago area. What is Red Lion that timeframe basically the black people couldn't buy houses within certain areas in that area was designated with red line and there were many times the loans that they were given and were there calling them predatory? I would say that they are. They were the same sort of loans that white Americans were being offered with of a similar sort of of credit score and rating. I think most of that stuff's been dealt with in America as far as you know you can't live here. He can't live there and for whatever reason there so we still have segregation then again I could be wrong. The numbers eight five five four five zero three seven three three eight fifty five four fifty free but certainly the war on drugs was absolutely disproportionately. affected black people. And I think it's interesting that they sort of wrap in this marijuana legalization allegation to a little a little bit. That's going into a reparations fund but why should it be reparations for slavery when it's the war on drugs how about referees for these people who were put in jail jail for having the wrong species a salad that's talking about you know in their pocket the that would be a real reparation right there you know there needs to be refereeing. Lot of him would probably w black for guys like Russell getting life in prison for running a website. There's so many victimless crime. People in prison eight five five four five zero three seven three three eight five five four fifty free here on free talk live. Well the dischord lines discord DOT FREETALKLIVE DOT com. Set your own schedule work player. Sleep whenever you want seven days a week or you're free to date whomever you want. 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Obviously we're GONNA ask questions and sometimes we won't agree but it's available to you listeners. have any speculation on What the media's distracting the masses from with this impeachment I'd I'd love to hear some Some thoughts are some conspiracy theories or some ideas. I don't know but I know the Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. Yeah I'm pretty sure of that too and And he's got a lot of friends that he didn't kill himself then somebody killed him or he isn't Ori Ori Faked his death one of the two in which case who killed him and who helped him escape his punishment. And you know like you know the the smoking gun here. The World Trade number seven is just lane maxwell how come she's not being Worn out for her RASA. Come Interpol's not looking for her. They want her testimony. She's not nearly as interesting. She's not a billionaire. Well they did. They don't want her testimony. I think they want it. WHO's I don't know who wants what I think yourself? Better Watch out or she may wake up dead. Let's go to the phones so got gene the Christian kist call again gene. You're on free talk live. Of course I tried to take a call here on the discord lines and I do have a theory of why the Democrat is so hard core on this Impeachment thing they've really really WanNa make sure trump wins because I think a lot of them are pretty. Sure that the you here the economy's GonNa take a total the US dollar Michael Boss with the bricks nations are doing your own trades and their own currency bricks being Bricks brick stations would be Brazil Russia India China and the sort of up and coming economies economies. That aren't quite as large as the United States but big enough that they can tell people to go f themselves they feel like it. Combine your all bigger than any two of them are bigger the United States. I believe ninety two of them but definitely like Russia China combined or China any of them can but they well they gotta go through the swift system and Iran's in on this to they want to buy oil from Iran. They want to buy natural gas from Iran they want Iran has it and wants to sell it to sell it. Yeah and Iran should be able to and you know they they are. They WANNA use use crypto currency because they can go around sanctions just like Brad. Sherman said Bitcoin can do it can negate it can negotiate Negate the US sanctions. What's which which is a beautiful thing and these countries are going to do it and I don't really think there's much United States can do about it? The United States can't go to war with China or Russia. UH-HUH I mean they can try but it's GONNA be stupid. I mean also you know this whole bricks. Trade Summit is almost like a Prequel to Woah. Red Dawn you remember that movie. Where where where the Russians and the Koreans invaded a western United States together? But I thought it was the first the Russians and then the North Koreans like two movies two versions of it could have screwed up. I honestly don't know I mean I've watched both movies movies and you know this is the reason you need to go attend your local gun church. You know couple of times a year and practice shooting guns and learn about new guns and things like that because just in case Red dawn to happen better be prepared then to not be prepared and shooting guns with your friends is fun. I think that to the the problem with taking that call was completely my fault. So let's go back to the phones we've got Gene the Christian anarchist on the discord lines. Listen to how great it sounds. Gene can hear me. Yes I can hear you sorry about that. No problem. What's on your mind? I was applying around in my airplane today and I saw all all those guys. Yeah they were all up there spraying the heck out of us with those chem trails. Were just all over the place one. After the other one of these crop dusters I was I was about Diane. There couldn't hardly breathe. That was choking so bad so i. I'm confused fused for video. What are we what? What were they spraying? Did you get some video. What what what are we talking about here now? No I didn't get any video. 'cause I'm just I'm just making fun of the chem trail people because there are no cam trails their their contrails their clouds. Well they're they're basically water vapor that condenses due to combustion of the jet engines in the airliner's under certain conditions and that certain altitudes so sometimes see him crisscrossing the sky though I mean it's amazing to see especially in a place where there's a lot of planes going by and and it's all easily explained because the reason you see those criss cross patterns is because airplanes travel along something called Victor Airways ways so in other words one airline follows. Another airline follows another airline so if a plane goes by say every ten minutes on the same track and then as they go by they leave their controversial and then the wind which is at altitude will blow that contrails over so many any you know like a mile or whatever and that another plane will come by and put a fresh contrails across that same track and then that one will slowly get blown over to the side. `nother plane will come by you. See how this works. And then there'll be another contrel that'll be ninety degrees or sixty degrees Adjacent out of out of a parallel to that one. So that one will Chris Costs and then another plane will come by in the window. Blow that that one over. This is how it happens and I've I've explained to people many many times that if they want to know what airplane that is if they're looking up at the sky and they're seeing a plane and it's laying a controversial then all they have to do is put an APP on their phone when I use called a flight radar twenty four twenty flight radar twenty. Four there's a couple of different APPS that you can put on your phone in all the planes are tracked. I mean I've I've seen the Sun Online. Yeah but you can figure out exactly which airplane that is if you have that APP because you can look up and look at your phone and you can say oh. Well that's a United Airlines flight. Twenty three twenty four flying from San Francisco to New York. And it'll say that right there so it's an airliner. It's not a spraying plane now and I got a question for you Jean. What about John Brennan the director of the CIA he? He's a video. I got up here. I haven't watched a little while. But he talks about weather modification and geo- Aerosol spraying and how you can You know you can make it. You know good weather here you can make it bad weather here. And he kinda in this video he talks about how like you can make the weather really bad in some places purposely and he like has his like evil chuckle. Kinda liked it. You have to try to contain In this and During the break gonNA video so there is yes there. There's some truth to these things this is. This is how you know. There's always a certain amount of truth and also a certain amount of deceit going on in. Almost everything can you hear now. There is truth to the fact that experiments have been made spraying stuff in the atmosphere to change the weather. Also things have have been sprayed into the atmosphere to try and experiment with over the horizon. Radar these are things that are documented. They have happened but they're not currently being being experimented with The the weather modification thing turned out to be a big Dud. Basically it's what's called cloud seeding and it was kind of hit or miss and sometimes times would have worked. Sometimes it didn't work so it's really not worth the effort to try and make it work like they have to be efficient about anything. I mean these are the the These guys spend fifty thousand dollars on a hammer. I mean you're right there you know all they do is waste money but the thing is If if you had the amount of airplanes that it took to put all those trails in the sky you would have to have tens of thousands of airplanes with tens of thousands with twice that many pilots flying them. Where are all these pilots? How come you're not getting pilots? That are you know if they've got. Fifty Thousand Rosen pilots in the air. Doing all this crazy spray and stuff how come not one of them have come forward and said here. Yeah we were doing it. 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In in the years immediately the following nine eleven As the Internet became more prevalent as Public Square in a public forum. You saw sort of me medication Of the nine eleven. The topic Internet means by Bush did nine eleven jet fuel. Can't melt deal beam. You've seen these on on the Internet. I'm sure it was turned into a joke. And you're starting starting to see sort of the same thing that the Jeffrey think thing the Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself means has become so prevalent and it's almost like it's being allowed to proliferate mkx being allowed to grow so that we more is a joke and the more we're posting these Internet memes and we'll ask the subject matter. We're not rioting because this is the crime. The Century Jeffrey as is the case of the century when it comes to ultra-powerful people and blackmail material and intelligence operation. The American and people are very very pacified. Whether it's through entertainment through chemicals through fluoride in water I got a friend Bob Anderson I I he says you always ask. People who were like the Libertarian minds. Take they grew up on fluoridated water. And I didn't I mean and almost never I was any place that I drank Florida into water and pretty much. Everyone he talks to I really. I'd wasn't on Florida. Waters is is most of the cancer of the people who are like these open minded thinkers. And then there's people who you know. They could add to the cities and they start using burkey. If they're still in a city and take out New Hampshire sure where we live is a liberal liberal bastion. And there's very few libertarians here and we don't have chlorine in the water here fluoride in the water. Yeah Yeah but I'm sorry fluoride in the water here so I don't know whether that stands up. I be interested in finding out more but pacified many ways. The American people like they really just don't care they're all about their sports ball warship and their for this team versus that team nonsense rob guys thank you so much. Take the medication aspect of this. I want to get a little a bit more so you feel like somehow the talking about it. In a jocular fashion takes the gravity out of it and therefore war. We're not GONNA see any movement in the same way that nothing happened with the shooting of Harambee right. I mean no no Protocols Zoos News were changed over the The amazing amount of posts that have referenced this shot guerrilla this dead guerilla You know this is sort of the same situation with Epstein absolutely right when you have this horrifying subject matter this topic. That is too heavy for most people even processed. And maybe I'm looking too far into this. Maybe this is just humanities way of coping with horrific subject matter or things that they really have no power over because honestly if if people if if some dark cabal of pedophile 's had Jeffrey Epstein murdered in jail. There's honestly nothing that you or I the the average truck driver dishwasher plumber is going to do about any of this stuff. Honestly I mean we can talk about it but and you're hearing reports on how. CPS Child Protective Services and United States is responsible for sixty percent of the human trafficking in the world. A crazy crazy. What six hundred and something thousand children just up here in the United States? I haven't heard anything. Like doubt is an insane number. I mean I read an article about this today but should've put of this show. Prep but it's just I mean and you start reading these things the articles they piss me off. They actually make me sick. I don't even want to read them and you know and they're complaining in about co two which is like this you know almost nothing percent you know in the atmosphere you know and this all this other nonsense nonsense. I mean there were the media is just. It's it's mushroom management. The way grow mushrooms your feet of crap and you keep it in the dark rob. Thanks thanks for the call. Eight five five four five zero three seven three three. It's eight fifty five four fifty free here. You're on free talk live and I. This topic is a little odd off the wall. But I think the Libertarians in the bunch will appreciate it so Jay. Have you ever ever run across anybody. WHO said that if you want no government? Why don't you move to Somalia several times so this is happening pretty more than once because I can tell you? It's certainly happened to me. And there's a really great video out there that's very entertaining of You know a couple of Libertarians. That go to Somalia and she's she's like I have cholera here or something and at the end of it. It's it's clever. There's no doubt about it but Tom Woods decided that is for those Jonno. Tom Woods is one of the better. Thinkers when more exciting thinkers in the libertarian realm. Right now he's got his own podcast and You know I love him and he's been making some appearances on Boom Boston. RT and. I love Tom Woods he does. I hope he sticks with this. RT gig he's been in doing these on boom busted. I forget what the other one is cross talk or something but he does such a great job him. Ns Asian Girl Christie either. A really good team on boom in Boston. I appreciate them. A lot and Tom Woods has been here on free. Talk Live I think multiple times but certainly at least once he notably. He came for Thanksgiving one in time here. At the Free Talk Live Studios School. He was in town and he's like well. I'll make the in Boston. 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FM Talk Live eight five five four five zero three seven three three eight fifty five four four fifty free here on free talk live. It's mark with you and Jay so we have this story This is this is an email that was sent around to people on Tom. Tom Woods is list but I thought it was so good that I wanted to read it before we go on. I want to talk to you about Alpha male two point. Oh have you heard of Caleb Jones. He's he's the creator of Alpha male to Plano and he will be hosting a free live Webinar Complete with Qa on December the tenth at eight pm that so that's a free talk live hosted. Webinar you can register. Alpha DOT FREETALKLIVE DOT COM Alpha Dot freetalklive dot com calebs taught hundreds of thousands of men had a create location independent income and date went women under their terms. What good is living in a free society? If you don't live AH free life. Have you ever wanted to work when you wanted to work instead of having to report to an office. 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I ain't got enough time to hang out with my wife. Never mind throwing anyone else into the mix except take the course. Maybe they just flocked to you like. I have no idea going on here with the article from Tom. Woods to this day. I find myself uh-huh replying on twitter to people who genuinely think that it's a devastating argument that to send Libertarians to Somalia. Yeah if you WANNA live in near Libertarian Paradise. You should move to Somalia. Whenever I see this I know I'm not dealing with the sharpest knife in the drawer? Probably because Somalia isn't stateless but whatever I recently saw someone on twitter. Twitter post a photo of a page in a text. I book that he was forced to use in college. And it brought up the Somalia example. If you're a libertarian on an anarchist beliefs states are a threat to freedom. You should consider consider moving to Somalia. That's the first sentence on the page subtle is that what the Collin Shoulda done one. You know instead of revolting in you know Right it's a great argument is that why didn't George Washington just leave. If he didn't like the King of England you know and the problem is there is a global government wants to rule and enslave and collect taxes. I mean this carbon nonsense. I mean who thinks that by giving some you you know a global organization money for you know pounds of carbon that you may or may not produce is going to fix anything and you know for the people that have a problem problem with Well let's local rules so it's okay you know. Hana Lulu is farther from Washington DC. Then then London was from Boston. It's a good distance farther and I suspect anchorage farther from Washington DC. I suspect you know Let's see the capital Guam American Samoa per the Micronesian states. Whatever they might be anyone who says to go live in Somalia just doesn't have they don't want they don't want to have a conversation about what's wrong because they know they're going to get destroyed now I will? We'll say this if your parrot. Excuse me if you're paradise exists. So if there was a libertarian place on the planet that was sufficiently more libertarian in the ways that I'm interested in then New Hampshire I would move there so what I write so I am willing to do it. Should this place exist now. You know I'm I'm a volunteer so I believe that. All interactions should be voluntary. Which means that I don't believe in any organization that uses force to to deal with an uninitiated forced to deal with the problem so I don't I believe taxation staffed and that pretty much precludes every spot in the planet number one now personally? I don't need hookers legal. We'd Casinos Margaret Cigarettes. Gay Marriage Most of the things out there that That are social. We don't freedom's state-sanctioned marriage whatsoever. Why are people wanting the state to be a partner in their marriage? I mean I agree with you. I got married because my wife wife at the time My Wife At the time she worked for the state of Florida and if we got married I could get an operation on my septum that I needed so so I was like all right so it's going to cost us one hundred dollars to get this marriage certificate and then I get this operation. I guess I'M IN AND SO I. which is you know? took the thirty thirty pieces of silver as they say and so far it's worked out just fine. Obviously the government will get their their money on the way out. I think there was a little more The reason for you guys to get married then just to get the you know the cheaper healthcare. How's that well because you know I mean that's not? The only reason married the government. Mary you got the Government Permission Slip Right. I mean I could have just got had we could have just had a service at the church and everything would have been fine. I've I've performed a few services Yours included where it was stateless But in my case I gotta marriage certificate a license from the government and the reason is is she worked for the government so yeah but but he you know for me the main my main concern sorta to one taxation is too high in many districts and oftentimes. I feel that way about New Hampshire. As a matter of fact I think taxation was lower in Florida where I lived previously number two. I really have a problem with government schools because essentially they're useless government indoctrination centers that are for lower and middle class kids the upper-class people and the teachers they don't send their kids to these schools but they get the get the rest of us to send our kids there and I think that they're just largely a useless and They're a net negative. Absolutely I I really like your your Take on your Libertarians. Idea where you Couple of years ago you explain out real nice You know the school system and how we could transfer by basically forgiving ownership of the schools. I get credit on that when he came up with this or at least right at someplace as you explained it very well. Thank you the the the notion is and I think that this is true for pretty much every government program that's useful that has some use to it so no one's going to say that school's a bad idea and you shouldn't send your kids to school but I would say that a state run school has in it some inherent problems and all I have to do is used to prove it. But what if we just went ahead and gave those schools schools to the teachers the janitors and the administrators that currently work at it. And then they they get a whole business wrapped up with a bow delivered to them and then they can run it. The hard parts done infrastructures there. The six million dollar buildings. They're all all this stuff is like. Here's warning let them know that it's going to happen. And that way they can begin doing things like fundraising and doing Tuition costs and figuring it all out but and also given when the power to deny somebody an education because one of the biggest problems that we have in this country is is. The teachers are dealing with students that they can't get rid of right and who have parents that don't care and one of the things I'm bringing up to. I talked to a teacher the other day and I do you and your partners at work your are your coworkers feel like your hands are tied by higher authority she goes Oh yeah she says you know if it's not a violation of some state regulation it's a violation of federal under regulation and she's like an his red tape and I go wait makes working additions. Deplorable I go. 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It's free already so all we can give you as a special badge but we sponsored it because we believe in this people asking us for this for years liberty dot menu and you so going on with Tom Woods here. Apparently a textbook actually suggests that. If you're a libertarian are an anarchist that you should move to Somalia Malia the offending book if you're curious is the good society and introduction to comparative politics this is textbook. It's by Alan Draper and insult Ramsey. So this is something given to Further brainwashed kids in Public Davidson. Sure and I mean you know these. These people are full all of nonsense when it comes to arguing Libertar- against libertarianism. Because there's really nothing but nonsense out there. One of them is the the argument from from ignorance. Well if Libertarians is such a good idea. Why haven't any? Why hasn't anyone tried it? Why haven't we tried this? Well the answer is it's been tried. As a matter of fact. Private communities exist all over the world especially conomic zones are private cut our our private cutouts basically Resorts are where people go to live under different rules and You know live together communally a US cruise ships are their own floating cities with their own rules. No one's talking about people running around with the hunting knives in their teeth. eviscerating eviscerating each other over. You know the most petty of of disagreements. Yeah that only happens where people can own guns like in England right that happens where there is government government so here we go here. We have an academic textbook literally urging Libertarians to move to Somalia if they hate states so so much in other words it's written at the level of you like carrots. Well why don't you marry one from third grade without a state. We read Somalia Somalia under statelessness descended into a Hobson state of nature where life is nasty brutish and short speaking of Samaya hasn't liked the US military the NCAA. Ben Like de stabilizing the crap out of Somalia forever cades yeah and and other western states to the UN the after to the whole paragraphs on the situation Somalia. We get study questions if you look really really closely. You may detect a very slight bias in these these questions which is preferable bad government or no government. I would say no government. Why hasn't I don't know? Ask The people. In Stalin's Allen's Gulag preferable really bad cancer or no cancer. Why hasn't Somalia without a State become the paradise that Libertarians anticipate anticipate? I don't know that they've addressed that but you know it's you can't be sending seal team six in there do special operations you know every every couple of years and you know shooting people and then support one war Lord in there and support another warlord. I mean the the I. I wonder what the Economic Hitman knows about Somalia here now I mean he probably has some input now for one thing was there ever a libertarian. Who predicted a stateless Somalia or stateless anywhere else That it would be a paradise. So Libertarians don't propose that Libertarians Libertarians. Only say that the state is inefficient. But more importantly if we're going to get a picture of what's worth That's worth anything of the life. In Somalia. Without estate the correct comparison to make is not between Somalia and the United States. The comparison most writers like this are implicitly making but between Prince Amalia and comparable African countries and on that front Somalia during its stateless period. COMES OUT PRETTY DARN well. In most metrics of living standards it held steady or improved so Somalia stateless. Didn't actually Ashley Descend into some Hobson State. Where life was brutish at short or any of these other things that was predicted? Let's see other nasty nasty brutish short in fact it held pretty comparable to itself during the stateless timeframe which is to say. The government wasn't really doing anything to make life better. Is there a listener listening. That would turn turn into an absolute murdering raging psychopath if the government disappeared tomorrow right. I mean please call in first off. If you decided added to go on a murdering rampages is what some people predict somebody goes on a murderous rampage. I don't know about you. But America's got six hundred million guns. Do you really want to go I WANNA murdering rampage. And everybody's there's two guns for every American I might know one or two bad actors may one of the bad actors Akers. I'm thinking of I don't personally know him. He's just an a-hole that was a troll but like the people I pretty much I've surrounded myself with I know are they're all real decent good people there. Most of them are people at trust with guns and they're just the number of good people so much outweighs the number of bad people. I I really really believe that. So it says the most metrics of living standards Somalia Health Steadier improved in the Journal of Economic Behavior and organization. Two Thousand and eight professor. Benjamin Powell and his colleagues wrote this papers main contribution to the literature has been to compare Somalia's living standards to those of forty one other sub Saharan African countries both before and after the collapse of the national government. That sounds like the way to do it compares Amalia before the collapse of the national government and after the collapse of the national government and compared to its contemporaries. You're right there in Africa. We find the Somalis. Living standards have generally improved and that they compare relatively. This is a quote from the paper from the Journal of Economic Behavior and organization. Sation two thousand and eight. We find solace living standards have generally improved and that they compare relatively favorably to many existing African states importantly accordingly we find that Somali living standards have often proved not just in absolute terms but also in relative to other African countries since the the collapse of the Somali central government. Alright so Somalia not only is holding fine against its own comparison against itself self itself but it's also beating out some African states in some metrics so when somebody says move to Somalia you mean to a place nice. That's gotten better without its central government and I mean do we mark you and I really even know anything about Somalia the same way I mean. Do we know anything about about North Korea. Doing down right is just a Hollywood depiction by that The movie where the The Somali molly guy takes over the boat. Yeah I'm the captain now or something like that to me. And you know. Merchant Marine merchant vessels fishing vessels. You're not supposed to have firearms firearms. you know. That's how you solve that problem of all. These merchant vessels were just heavily armed. NATO pirates come in there and doing nothing especially you. You know some little skiff and I think I made an incorrect statement earlier. This article was done by Tom. Would right yes okay. I just wrote down Ben Swann. On here it is Ben Swann. Who is on our T.? Not Tom Woods. I got a which are both of those guys are great guys. Sure and I just got him a little confused so so hopefully. Nobody's offended I. I'm sure they both appreciate it. Honestly economist. Peter Leeson in enter bound Cambridge University. Press report similar findings yes Somalia ranked low in some categories during the stateless period but that's where it ranked before the state little statelessness too. Oh and if anything it actually made progress. In those categories life expectancy was up for instance an for infant mortality was down and what's to infrastructure. External Malia aren't they like you know ten decades behind the United States. I mean how many houses have running water and electricity at work every day. I have no oh idea but I think that the comparisons that are made here much fairer than anything I've ever heard you know to me. It was always just like well. Somalia's it's not stateless. It has warlords which is effectively all that any government is honestly years ago the Somalis rejected. GMO corn from the United States. Dates anyone to feed it to their cows. Some cows sick. 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Students continue to lag behind peers in East Asia and Europe in reading reading math and science exam. Shell well I think the red flag law would be way more emotional and controversial but the This is some pretty good statistics. Probably I want to hear about How you know the Department of Education is dumbing down the people? Well it's fascinating that I mean. Obviously no American wants to see the kids not perform the levels of You know their peers around the world old and you wonder how it can keep on happening year after year after year with all the money. This is the rich run of the richest nations in in the world. I mean it depends on how you look at it. But the richest nation in the world if you compare to debt to asset ratio might be the poorest nation in the world agreed teenagers in the United States continue to lag behind behind their peers in East Asia Europe in reading math and science according to results of an international examined suggest. US schools are not doing enough to prepare young people for the a competitive global economy to. That's not the purpose of us. Schools the purpose of linguistic purpose of European schools and east. Asian school I don't know I didn't go to European and East agents schools. I don't talk to people I only I got a little sister. WHO's nineteen second year of college? I got lots of friends. I'm forty years old my experience. What what my sister is going to be dealt with your has done and she did well they went to college and you know my little sisters decided to take on aviation which I think is really awesome because she wants to actually have a career and a job that might pay or my reward her and she likes planes and she's been fighting planes and she's capable now? But when I I was in school and most people it's school is just there to push you into a college. They weren't high school was not preparing pairing you to go do anything except for go to college now. I have friends. I grew up in a town where we had a trade school in town and the a half half the eighth grade class literally went to this pathfinder vocational regional school almost all my buddies that went to pathfinder that took up all kinds of electrical h VAC. You know One of my good friends electrical. He's he's installing. Solar panels are getting paid. Really good job. I got other friends ends up after school. They went to Lyman School for a six month. Course for like five thousand dollars. You know they're working for national grid making like a hundred hundred dollars an hour during a snowstorm restoring power and they got great benefits and I got friends at our auto mechanics and that are mentors A vocational school. We'll give somebody a skill that they can turn into real dollars. And in many cases college degrees will not That they don't have college debt. These guys bigger houses. But you know this is talking about on a global level and obviously there's going to be competition at some point or another right so if the United States is the richest economy in in the world and the largest economy in the world at some point. That's not going to be true anymore. Right because he can't stay the same all the time. There's almost to know scenario in which the United States continues to be the world's leader as far as large economies. I suppose they could just swallow up the whole globe. Urban say you know you're all states and you're all united now since one thousand nine hundred seventy one. The United States has been creating their own money and they've been putting sanctions on nations. That don't WANNA use their dollar and event bombing sanctions nations-backed literally to the Stone Age. That don't WanNA participate in their dollar system so the the United States just because they have the military might in Iran by the most elegant psychopaths in the world that you know go oh and just blow up and maiming. Kill innocent people around the world because they don't want to participate in the. US dollar is the only reason. The United States is a so-called richest. I mean when I say Rachel I don't I don't look at it at wealth in dollars. Numbers you know I look at your wealth is in your health and your skillset l.. Set sure so it don't matter how much money you got an bank account if you're dying of cancer if you got like some kind of terminal illness or you know to your your kids even one of your kids are autistic and your other kids hooked on heroin I mean. Do you really have wealth. Yeah I heard these words from a friend of mine. He's he's still alive. He's an old man at the time. He's Oh man now obviously and he said Marquis which you know very few people call me. He did Markey on the richest man. I know You know look at look at my house. I own it outright. I've got my beautiful wife upstairs. And my three daughters and you know he made a compelling case way being the richest guy that he knew I because like I am the wealthiest man. I know. He's really do. He's right his family was relatively without problems. And it's probably because he provided a stable home life and and Through loving his wife and working hard and doing all the things that he did and that those girls grew up to be pretty good girls. I mean you know everybody's got problems but nobody there's strung out on heroin how's that and that's a good place to be. It's it's a really good place to be. And he's right ebbing at the way he was living he could live and do the things he wanted to do for the rest of his life. He didn't have to work another day to do it. He continued to because at position but well he liked to help people. Frankly you do the same thing you know. He's a machinist but the kind of working machinists that gets themselves dirty And you know a lot of guys. Just run CAD machines. I'm not besmirching that either. Thank God for the guys who are running the cab machines but you also need somebody. You'll get an Auger and bore out of bearing So that they can welded back in and You know make the things you need. You need all kinds of machinists and are`more not inaugural out bearing with well. You don't want me doing it. That much more four out of pushing not a bearing but God but Yeah I mean. I think that we've all a lot of us. Were were sort of tricked when it came to college edge. And especially the millennials when the price went up so high. And it's still ridiculous. I got friends that are same age graduated high school graduated ninety eight. I'm forty years old. They are living in apartments. They have college debts. That that They've just kate even think about paying them. Not even a concern concerned They are Working couple jobs. Somebody's guys that went to college. I did some good stuff I got one friend. She's a pediatrician That when I went to high school with and she's doing well but she spends about eight hundred dollars a month on a college Payment in fact you know so it will you know is basically what a house the mortgage should be as far as. I'm concerned today. If you're gonNA live you know frugally you know. I want to go on with this This article here. The results results of the programme for international student assessment widely known as Program the PICA. Yeah we'll call it. It might be pizza and if so oh. I'm terribly sorry to the people who worked so hard on this exam. we're released Tuesday and show widening disparities between high and low performing students in the United States. It's so the disparities getting getting wider adding to a growing body of evidence showing worsening inequity in public schools. The exam I am. I administered in two thousand to measure the performance of fifteen year olds in the thirty-five industrialized countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and development o e CD and has been administered every three years since it's expanded beyond the thirty five member countries in two thousand eighteen gene. Six hundred thousand students from seventy nine countries took the exam for about as long. The exam has Faced a chorus of skeptics who cautioned Russian reading too deeply into the results. Of course the people who are doing poorly don't like the exam. Students are not penalized for performing poorly and never see their results. Jason Students in the United States tend to be less motivated to perform well on it compared to teens in other countries according to recent studies. So okay I mean how. How exactly do we want the kids to be assessed against their peers in other countries no thing the? 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Apologize for not being able to harass you more often but but I need any. Aj's help okay. See what I can do for you. Okay there's There's a thing that I've been trying to persuade. The host of Free Talk Live to do over the years and And I know your jet. I just WanNa tell you before before you go on jet. I don't mean to interrupt but I am going to picked up the headphones and put them on to hear your call ahead. Okay Yeah My title my call is called USA patient. You know. And and What I've been trying to persuade these monkeys for years is to eliminate this word government from the vocabulary completely so as I'm giving him getting to give those more solutions? But what are you thinking. Oh Oh there's a there's a printed piece of paper Big Bold I could read it about ten foot awaits don't say government or government people say goons tyrants desperate parasites thugs Mafia gang idiots liars thieves lunatics killers gang members. I would say doesn't work as idiots. Because they're not idiots. They're they're they're very smart psychopath. Government fellas yeah. Well here's here's the reason This this gang or these gangs we call government are or just people the people who rob you of your wages the people who were harassed you pre car lights being out or your tags speaking speaking of the people who punish you make rules you know for the personal choices that you make are just other humans their other people potentially even even your neighbors or relatives there and their religious fanatics. I mean the government is the most dangerous religion. I mean there was a young teenage boy who got his skull fractured because he did not stand for the flag and take off his hat or something at some. He wasn't sufficiently Patriotic Attic during the reputation of One of the particular patriotic So sports thing. Yeah well let me get. Let me get more into into this concept of patient. Do you know what that is right. I do but maybe you could i. Just I'd explain it briefly to the audience or user patients simply he is the fact that The people who are in charge are in charge because they say so every government on this planet has has has begun by simply Saying something similar to this. We hereby grant ourselves the rights powers in authorities to grant ourselves rights powers Tories Patriot. Act these patriot. Act thing that that came up up recently again They we're talking about people re authorized. I mean just just the idea the concept that they can they can just speak it out and people go. Oh okay re here by reauthorize ourselves to do things that we want to do. And it's if people could just understand at these are just other humans who are Making up this craziness nonsense over the rest of us like I said they could be your neighbor. Your relative That's what's going to change this whole world and the first step is to work as hard as we can to eliminate that word heard government because it's not a government we we call them gangs. We call them usurpers they're just They're evil or evil evil. Yeah there's there's really no functional difference between the most successful organized crime syndicate and the given geographic area and the government. I mean yeah you vote for the particular dons and this gang they give you the You either believe that your votes are counted or you. Don't that's beside the point. But they they have this this Regalia the likelihood that your vote has ever made. A difference is near meal. Neil but just the very fact that they allow you to express your opinion in the form of a vote. Even if your opinion has never been meaningful somehow that makes it Paul okay. Here's the trick. If you can get into your mind somehow that these are other people who have absolutely no right to do anything that you don't have a right to do. That's where it all begins. And this is how these so-called gangs of choline governments have if fallen for centuries season histories. And that's what will happen so if you can just do all you can't remove that word government from vocabulary and get down to the specific doc. If some person did something call that personnel if some small group did something call that group out but don't legitimize that anyway by calling hauling government. Hey I jet have you ever heard of a guy named Curtis Richard Colin backed by any chance know so anyways Curtis Richard Colin Colin back. His website Kurtz Richard Bach Xyz. Just start typing it in. And it'll show up. He he has explains a pretty good thing and I actually I really like it. I like the theory. I it makes sense to me that we essentially don't have a government what we have is useful corporations con themselves salves governmental agencies a suffix on the end of a word. Al New similar. Actually we don't we have. We have just other people and that's where you need to get with your mind just the other humans. They don't They call themselves Corp.. I don't care what they call themselves today. But they claim create if view begin to look at them talk to them respond to them And treat them as just other humans who have no more right. That's what's going to get you where you WANNA go. Well we're not really the courts won't recognize that if if mark trespasses if mark reaches across and slaps me on the face and trespassing my property or something like that then Dan I ha I can go after him. But when state does the same thing they claim this this immunity and because the state is a religion. This is what I'm trying. 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Call in talk about whatever's on your mind as jet has done here where we're talking about the concept is his concept is theory that if we eliminate the use of the word government from our vocabulary that we can well at least the very least. It's a step down on the road to eliminating this concept of the state and the State is an organization the claims of Napoli privileged over the use of violence given land mass. And if you'd like to see see this sort of thing happen checkout fork Fest Dot Party Fort Fest. Twenty twenty is going to be a big event. It's at Rogers Campground. It's going to be from on June. The twenty ninth through July the fifth and it was it was big last year and we expect it to be bigger this year. There's no ticket cost and you can do what you want you just you. You make up your own good or service or speech or event or whatever it is you WANNA do. 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But you also like just can't buy like a campsite for say Friday night and camp out Friday night as and and go home Saturday afternoon. which is what this family would really like to do? Because that's within their budget while I told them about fork fast and and they just thought that was great. So they're really excited about going to fork fest issue. Let's take go back to jet calling in here on the The lines jet. You're you're back on free talk live. And there was a Jay's rebuttal to your idea is as well the government the courts they won't let me get away with this. Well here's the deal. The the people in these gangs right now are not the same people today as they were yesterday yesterday and they're not going to be the same people as they will be tomorrow. And here's the deal they they take on this mindset this authoritarian mindset in other words the students are the high school students of yesterday are Now the cops of today the College Students Law Students of yesterday are now the legislators i. It's a mindset and we have to change the mindset of people. What's happening in Hong Kong? What's happening in Bolivia what's happening? In these other countries the people are recognizing is it that the their rulers have no legitimacy they have no right other than any other human being on this planet. They don't have a right to punish you for making personal personal choices. They don't have these rights and that's why that's why more people are coming to this the the understanding and this is what it is. It's a change of mind so you have to change your mind. You have to come in to the realization that other people don't get to push you around other people. Don't get to make rules order you. If they make rules they can only apply themselves Or the group that adopts them. So that's that's the deal. The is to help other people. People change their mind and by using a term like government. It legitimises this The role of you know some superior Over at inferior you get that. Yup I disagree with you but to take it one step further. I like to lay out that. If you look at these so-called governments and I don't call them government I don't believe I believe governments Are What the articles of confederation basically explained government are in this country but going on if you look at these the United States essentially as a religion and religion where you're worship these images these this is and other religions. They have this constant they have this Bible this constitution but just like the Catholics. Do a lot of religions don't really go by the Actual Bible. They go by these doctrines which are their interpretations of these Bible Stories. And then then there's all kinds of twists and everything but the the government can't interrupt your year essentially you're is restricted from regulating religion. So if you are willing participant or even an unwilling willing participant 'cause you don't even know you're participating religion the government can't step in and protect you from this religion and if you read any town charter it. It doesn't even use the word government the in a keen and Palmer town charter almost word for word the same You Know International Commercial Co. Charters you don't even use the word government to use the word governmental several times and they call themselves municipal corporations and this is why. It's all psychology. This way you have to change your psychology and this is why you have to speak of these other people in a psychological mayor Asya counter sigh up because you've been indoctrinated and people been indoctrinated they need need to change their mindset. Change their view that other people don't get to do what they do. They don't get to push you around. They don't we'll get boss you around. They don't get to make rules jet. What terms what what turns US instead of government? I mean you know you can. We've got up here you you can say government people which I kind of like But I mean what terminology you use when you described them. Because I think the parasite in some cases we you're talking about politicians you're talking about parasites but when you're talking about the garbage man or the police officer the firemen I mean. This is more of a symbiotic relationship where you know they. They've hooked up with the state. I mean real services are produced in so much as security and fire protection and and garbage collection and these sorts of things. These are things that would exist in. The absence of a state will their parasites also but with golden pension retirement programs are golden parachute. Retirement programs jet. Ah I avoid the universal I try to get down as specific as possible if some share of does something you don't call call him a sheriff you don't call him the judge Gerard you use it their name. You use their Their organization they're whatever it is in other words quivers doing the evil in the wrong thing you don't just use some generic term. So that's what I do I liked that. That'd be the quakers. Did this with judges. And by the way got him thrown in jail but this was years hundreds of years ago and you know that was their intention they were very specific about about using first and last names. Yeah and that's it. The idea is to do to treat yourself as just another person they are. You have no more right than they do to to what's what's oppress them than they do to you and if you see see them Talk to them. Treat them as just other people That's when like a cop comes up to me on the street I can. How can can I help you? Because obviously he stopped me on the road because he needs my help right. I asked him. How can I help me? Because he's a public servant. Yeah okay whatever it is to get it. It's a mindset. It's all psychology. This whole thing of one person somehow moving from From High School or college degree into a position of now they are your ruler. That's insanity to me it's called usurpation. They only exist because they say they do. Their rules. Only apply I because they say they do one more minute here. What have you seen success with this particular system that you are proposing in your own life or orb elsewhere well The success will come like planning any other seat. of of the thought or idea A lot of us didn't come to the level of libertarianism. More freedom you know just overnight. It was a gradual process but the seeds were planted the experiences that we had brought us there to find out that you know this. This other person is treating me wrongly. This other person is treating me poorly And why is that. Well wait a minute. They don't have any right to do that. So so the education starts out you know. Verbally then comes experience then than once said once you change your whole mindset your concept of how the world should work jet that you for the call thank you for the call. The number eight five five four five zero three seven three three. You can give your thoughts on jets theories or anything else. Eight five five four fifty free as in freedom here on free. Talk Live mm-hmm. Anytime any place anywhere. Radio remains the most intimate intimate of all forms of media at home at work in the car on smartphones over ninety percent of consumers. Still listen to radio every week that makes choosing radio as a place place to advertise your business. One of the best decisions you can make email advertiseatgcnlive dot com and partner up with an experience G. C. 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I I believe it's a good use. The best use in fact of your Liberty Dollar He. Liberty charitable dollar amp DOT freetalklive dot com. Let's go back to the phones. Dissident calling on the amp only call in lines dissidents. Your Talk Live. Hey guys how you guys doing and I also well. Hey I wanted to talk about that last caller I was talking about him in the house. I just call in and get on his jet. Yeah he's he's been a longtime listener freetalklive definitely more listening than there are viewing the chat. So thank you for calling in my honest reaction guy. I've heard him several times before I think it's a two bar phrase from the discord chattels Malarkey like you. You Colin saying that. I don't call them government gang and saying I don't I'm not covered under the universal commercial code or I don't have a contract with you I I don't think he said that j Okay I duNNo. All I'm saying is that he wants to to basically quickly create a psychological shift in the world population because currently the word government instills certain amount of respect and fear. When you know it's probably undo probably a lot of here but I I was thinking like you know I mean the when they were when you're Pulled over when you're paying your taxes I mean just saying saying that they're a gang doesn't get you out of the situation doesn't get young as he doesn't get the time you spent in jail reduced her time back to. You can't go back and change that so I don't know for the reality for a lot of people as people facing oppression by on the the so-called government gang Every day and I and but I do agree when it comes to saying a world shift. I don't think you can just I said I want to make shift and just have it happened but I certainly love to see it. You know idea for another example I I guess my my big thing. The one that really gets my goat. Now I'm kind of you know sympathizing with the guy. The with the one that I focus on is saying that you know when you're talking about the actions of of people in another place you say California did this or candidate this Iraq. Did this Japan did this. When that's when when you're always referring to their government yeah? I think that's confusing. And it's deadly honestly so if a rack has done something terrible to the United States than of course. It's obvious the United States should react to that. Oh wait a second. There is no Iraq and there is no United States. This is just a bunch of people and this is like when I oftentimes. I'll be asked the question. Are you a US citizen right you know. I don't know you're at the bank or whatever I I say. That's a really big statement to find United States. I say the Criminal Organisation doing business. The United States government claims me as it citizen. Yes and they look at me also you accept it and then they looked down and they right so they you know they go on But at the very least you know I've taken taking the moment to tell them that day. This is a criminal organization and citizenship is You know the terminology they use. How about well? This criminal organisation calling themselves. The United States has you know Claims me as one of theirs and I don't agree but men with guns will hurt me unless I go along something like it gets a little more complicated as you go on but yes I mean I'm with you and you know a lot of times. The next thing out of their mouth is some if if you have a discussion with somebody about You know calling the United States government of Criminal Organization. One of the first things do as well you know North Korea or Iran. Or whatever one of these things is going to be mentioned. Well we'll Wollo just because I think that one st is bad does not mean that I think could somehow another state is better and people live in a comparative paradigm in many cases. I love asking those people. How much time did you spend North Korea or Iran? Right what are you know about North Korea Maria dissident anything else Yeah I mean just further when I was saying when it comes to like you in a car view people in other countries as as a country or as a people in government I mean you have to realize that I mean look. Let's be entirely honest with you here. There's a lot of problems with Problems a lot of historic problems problems in this country. But you don't have it at a Davidge person in this country doesn't have it a tenth as bad as many people doing other countries so I'm pretty sure they spicer government. Look at Iraq right now every day. They're they're being shot unarmed protests of being shot into and they go out again and again and again every every week. Yeah well. That's what they said in Cuba. That You know there's different during the Cuban people in the Cuban Cuban government and we know the difference between the US people and the US government. Thanks for the call dissident. They'll be a huge difference if they ever able to Enforce draconian gun laws so they can tess arm The American people which they're Bharti doing a little bit off but there the left is working really really hard and you know the right. Is You know right. Okay with most of what the left wants to do with our gun rights. I think you've hurt the feelings of some of the people in the Chat Room when you say that There's far more people listening in the chat room. You can go to the chat by going to discord dot freetalklive dot com and you can chat with Dr Sniffy sniffers and L. Gravy legs right in there along with dissident and so many more at discord dot freetalklive dot com. Let's go to David calling from New Mexico. David you're on free talk live have you hitting on. Oh man you woke me up. I I see this story. You finally finally have no other callers. I'm terribly sorry David. I had a window on the computer over the phone phone bank software so there was a period of time there that I didn't know that you're on hold. Yeah Likely Story. Who is they? And how much did they give me to say it can happen. It's those people them those uh-huh yes they are and everybody knows who they are NATO who they are because I have a question for you well just asking you to quell okay. We're not GONNA get to what I wanted to tell you so me. Tell you the fun stuff you did you did it again. The I I had a client Bryant once and he was in the navy and he was the seal and he was a sniper. And if you remember those Somalis Dragon Dead American aircon around behind the jeep. You remember them That was the the Black Hawk down. Thing I yeah yeah you remember you remember how Several of them were were or knocked down by a single sniper from two thousand yards away. How's that post? That guy was my client okay. His so an American can sniper. Yeah American Sniper Navy Steel Dragon that body or yeah yeah so. What did I do Chris Right? I don't remember Okay Ben. Too Long Ago Jackson Wyoming. All right here's my question for you David so you like. Maybe I've got the wrong picture of you but I've got this sort of dry desert hermit picture of Oh you Go to the grocery store once every six months. You've got an old Ford Ranger that you managed to keep chugging along you rarely get out and drive you've got You've managed to keep your bills down very very low you pay almost nothing in taxes and Your housing costs are nil because You know you got a little Hut in the desert my question. Is this your getting power. I presume you're getting Internet You're getting a variety of things. You've got a cell phone somehow. How do you you pay bills? Do you go and get money orders. Do you pay it online through online checking. How's this work? I pay I pay bills over the internet or the telephone using credit card or debit card. So just the same old way everybody else does. I was kind of curious as to whether there was much more complicated way of going on the so the other way I do it for you have a credit card account stuff I I tried to do business where I use crypto currency or you know Petty Electric Bill. I go to Walmart and I pity bone cash Walmart. You can pay an electric electric bill at Walmart Day. You can pay your Eversource Bill Walmart Manchester as what we do. I had no clue. Hey there's GonNa be no free talk live tonight Just so get it in there for the show's done right so normally this after show called free talk live and unfortunately. That's not going to be happening tonight. 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Not just the game but sports in General Sal Berry here talking collectibles and Bruce Marshall comes back around key weekend as well in the NFL look at the schedule. Break it down and give you his predictions. Speaking of football good friend of mine is GONNA join us in just a moment. Eddie George Heisman trophy. Winning running back back out of Ohio state. He was the first round draft choice nine seasons in the NFL and inducted into the College Football Hall of fame. And then we're going to talk to the brand new coach coach of the US women's national soccer team. It's Vlatko at enough ski. And he has a big challenge ahead of him as the United States has won the last two women's World Cups so we're ready to go when we come back. Eddie George Heisman Trophy winner joins us on you on sports byline. He's the type of guy the wants to look put together. 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I didn't know when or how or what You know the idea of Karma for me and it's on my terms and the way where I could retire after the season when the Super Bowl go out my horse and transition into whatever it was when the transition into afterwards seamlessly but I left the game Y- I was wondering if I could play a high level Like go to a team and contributed where I wanted to and those answers will And left a a bitter taste in my mouth before a while and it will hold on my heart because I was left with. What am I going to do next more importantly who Emma for so many years you build and create this human being or this person person of an athlete? Metallics you these up into pop warner and all the way up through high school high school college and professionally speaking and now that's it's over so it's like well what is my identity with my purpose so It was it was very difficult at first It was scary It was filled with anxiety and fear but also excitement and hope and I had to really hold onto onto those two threads of of of hope and And and finding my next passion and like and That's what I was able to do still able to still continue to do it. Hall of Famer. Joe Morgan and I were having dinner one night and I asked him about that and he said Ronnie said. I started preparing pairing for retirement. The first day I started playing with the awareness that it could end at every time you know at any time and a lot of athletes don't do that I would assume it's probably a little bit harder in a physical sport like football maybe in something more relaxed like baseball I don't know I never played baseball at a high on level but Certainly in football you never know when that day they done. And and it's it's a lovely game and I play because I love the game. I never played the game because it was Way To make money. Of course you know you WANNA make money while you're doing it but I played because I love the game I played to win and championships are played the game to become great Craft and it was just always innate envy. I play the game because my father loved the game. And my father to be proud of me and And you know so once that ended. It was a difficult thing for me. I'm looking at some numbers here. The one thing that I think probably summarizes you as a football player particularly not only in college at Ohio state but also in the NFL is consistency. See I mean I'm looking at You know you're only the second. NFL running back to rush for ten thousand yards while never missing start joined Jim Brown in that area. Only only Walter Payton with one hundred seventy started more consecutive regular season games than you did at one hundred twenty eight. What was the essence of that consistency? Now that you look back upon it any number one it was I was. I was blessed to something error. Where was Were they relied on the running game number one. I was getting the ball. Forty Times game seen felt like almost three times a year. it was a Testament to my will to to be successful show every week. I had the fortunate the privilege Sportsman privileged to have played played with guys like Bruce Matthews as mayor who often played hurt That was the norm so I had to raise my level of play my standard in terms of what all I have to be there as well because you only have a short by nine Glendale to achieve greatness in this at this level and it goes by quick and I felt like if I can walk walk and play so I approached. The game is debt. And you know when I look back on my time like man the defenses I played again. That's twice a year Pittsburgh twice a year Baltimore twice a year Jacksonville twice a year Cincinnati twice a year. Cleveland was Cleveland but this was the AFC central and the bulk of my work was done in that time and are only truth threat to the passing asking attack in terms of received squad. Check so I was. I was literally playing in a telephone booth and It was just a mentality ought to embrace and I had to dig deeper really played for my spirit. You mentioned about how many times you carry the ball. I would watch a game of yours on television. I just shake my head because I know the brutality of the game and I know what happens to running backs to carry the ball between thirty and forty times How much effected that have on the longevity of you being able to play pro football well I I still think I could have played a few more years schools Squeeze a couple more years out. going through different team. But that's not all I want to play. I didn't leave. The game was physically unable to I chose to retire because it wasn't ideal for me it was no longer fund from the my heart really wasn't anymore anymore. I saw the the the business side of of the bit of football and I had to play something for greater something greater than myself and it was tough for me to find that too long. So the amount of hits that are taking. Yeah it definitely took it to a different player by the end of my career wasn't the same guy that I was ninety six but I felt like I got a couple more years out of that Physically speaking but In terms terms of the hip I still feel my shoulders Did dislocate a book shoulders. KNEES HURT I. No one's GonNa rain You know definitely definitely taken a pounding but for the most part I've I just really taking a A point to take care of myself in and makes them physically in the best position. Now that I'm not playing and Contained bill from there now some years later what type of perspective did you put on Super Bowl number thirty four when the titans took on the saint. Louis Rams lost that game twenty three to sixteen a very dramatic fashion at the end. Yes that the tough though the swallow you know it definitely took pill to swallow come that close to the game and putting forth all the energy you you put yourself in position to win to fall short Still haunts me to this day. I'll be honest with you. you up to take about. How could it be different? If you cross the goal line you know if you had an opportunity to host the Lombardi trophy how life would be the different. You know I've lived the blessed life teen Litho blessed light but I sat down that dench after the game like Confetti still trickling from the ceiling and I I seen the workers setting up the stage where the rams are gonNA take the stage celebrate and hold up Lombardi trophy and bring their families out. Were there hats and sat back and I looked at that. I said that's where I wanNA be one day. I WanNa cheat that you know and I made about a pack myself to get myself back to got decision. Only he's never get it back so There are days when you know. I'm a quiet moments when I'm driving down the highway or I'll I'll see someone posts something in terms of winning the championship. Would that feels like really feels like to be a part of that you know so it it It hurts but I've learned a lot from it. It was definitely a life lesson for me in terms of smelling the roses Don't take anything for granted and the fact that people still remember that game Super Bowl thirty four as one of the probably one of the best symbols ever seen to be a part of that I'm glad people still can can recollect that. And and and still the oldest too high regard terms of how will we cleveland thing. We have forty seconds before we have to break. Eddie but the physicality you already enumerated the injuries stories that you had and everything but every player that I've ever talked to in the NFL has never told me that it wasn't worth it. Tell me about that mentality that lets you. And the other players make that statement we find out early in life you built for football and you find out is what Pop Warner and they surrounded you teams around you the till two players backs you can get on the back. And there's a ball carrier and there's a defender and they blow the whistle. They both guys get off their backs and either have to run through the guy the mess the score more than more than often they they hit. And that's when you find out if you love the game so it takes a certain mentality to embrace the game. He was certain mentality to play the game at a high level. So Dance you a question it you have to have a different mindset. It'd be of a different mind to WANNA be great to separate yourself and everybody else and understand that there is no off season. You're in season. Was your all season as it constantly pushing your body to limits that that you think you WanNa Die Eagle beyond that. Eddie Georgia's with US heisman. 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USA as I mentioned before four played in the NFL for nine seasons and all but one of those played with the oilers and the titans as well won the heisman trophy. Coming out of Ohio State. Eight and I will never forget. Eddie you training in the off season when you were playing in the NFL here in the San Francisco Bay area and you came up and you did the show for me. And you were sitting out in our hallway before we started. And you're the only guest I've ever had that visited. That was playing chest playing chess before before they he came in for the interview. And that struck me And about how you think. And how articulate you are and what is that about you the the way you approach things the way you analyze things the way you think about things Man I'm always One to evolve and grow constantly working on myself. Maybe a better version of myself so to speak constantly working on a self development As a leader of leader of my home A leader of my business leaders community could be a difference maker. And that doesn't stop at the moment you stop and you rest on your laurels. You rest on on your accolades Those things collect dust so I'm not trying to collect dust. I'm trying to reinvent on. Try to news. My accolades has a platform As a pillar if you will for something greater than myself and Gods God's work so An answering in answering your question I'm always going to push myself to learn something new to think analytically You can't compartmentalize has your behavior who you are And life in terms of playing chess and working out playing football as a father. A husband on how in how who you are those moments who you're gonNA be in everyday life so how you manage stress at work how you want to manage stress at home and manage Chris Chris elsewhere so I seek Always to Capri in situations like for example in the Gulf war today and and I About you know two hundred yards out and going up pill and did to practice wings. Were perfect perfect practice coming up on the ball and I go to hit the ball and it goes down that they're three feet ahead of me and I'm using the whole bucket soldier but I got so mad that I threw my club across the creek and You know it was like one of those moments where I was like Mr Bean but it was all right. I felt better after I did that. Because I can't think myself series news and I am not to do that so I say all that in the long answer is that I try to Be Better today than I was yesterday yesterday. I tried not to take any days as a friend. I'm going to give you a piece of advice. I don't play golf because I think that's Looking for self abuse abuse and I play tennis so if I make a mistake in tennis Eddie. Five seconds later I can forget it. You make a mistake in golf. You have all the time you're looking for it. uh-huh you gravitated toward entertainment. After your career was over. I know you appeared on Broadway in the musical Chicago as the hustling lawyer. Billy Flynn Flynn and also you've done extensive television work and now you've got a movie I'll tell me about gravitating to the entertainment field well The entertainment field was Came through the arts There was a vehicle from the arts That was something that gravitated toward as a way of communicating away Be getting becoming a better communicator. But what I found was I fell in love with the art of storytelling storytelling and it was Therapeutic it wasn't therapy but it was therapeutic that I was able to take a lot of the energy that have football that this this place energy and put that towards something constructive and tell you a story through characters is my own story in my own writing and it it was a great deal of healing today and it felt good and I felt like I was getting better and better at more comfortable and time to telling the story imaginary settings so stupid. The Arts that was able to find the competence and then through auditions and Dating people to get on stage age and big and people do various roles I've been able to to find some footing in that area to some degree. Tell me a little bit about this movie. Another version of you. I'll yes this version of you is really a wonderful Love Story Ron comedy will The body of the man who is Upset that he can't Be With the girl that he's always into dances. It was nine years old And then my character comes along gives us an opportunity gives them a key To go into different universes to find a different version of this girl that he wants to be with To make a long story short without giving it away he finds out what's really important in life and and try try to manipulate this young woman of course earns a loving him. He finds love within himself. He finds fulfilment himself if so well done I'm really proud to be part of this. Project is beautifully written The shots the seams. The Different Seeing that you'll see on the settings that you'll see in the movie are authentic It's it's This the tone feet how they capture each moment. It's really heartwarming. Really proud of being a part of this film and people can watch it now over the holidays holidays with binge-watching looking at netflixing looking at all of their stuff on TV they can now pick out this this movie and check it out and and really be entertained by you. Know what I find interesting about that art form is that you have to transpose yourself from what's reality what you know what you're comfortable with and familiar familiar with to something that is a role and that's not an easy thing to do. And you work particularly trained in that were you know. But here's the thing you know we're all we're all storytellers in and we're all truth tellers unless you're a politician for But it's it's telling the truth in imaginary circumstances and you can get to the core of telling the truth and the truth requires you bring up emotions and you where you're crying and you're telling you from an honest place that's all that's all it is. It's not about technique. Of course there's technique and everything you do in terms of body position of stage foot and people people can see you and speaking and Enunciating and using up out in in terms of your voice and getting. You're making sure that your words land at the back of the wall and in all of that but it lands flat if it's not told truthfully so as much as technique that at I continue to work on I try I try to I try. I just allow the spirit the spirit within the character to speak. ooh that and that's knowing who that person is so And that's something that you know every all do but the best of the best asks are able to do it on call In front of an audience in front of the camera when it's needed and to eliminate the distractions of everything else is going on around these. He's being in the moment. I mean honestly we only have ninety seconds left but When you think back on your life and in your career is there one moment in Eddie George's his mind? That's kind of engraved there that you'll never ever forget from football perspective on life in general life or football your choice. 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UNM radio station and they're the indian program singing wire is broadcast cast on key UNM and so i made a special point of saying these things so that the the indian tier new mexico would perk their ears up and here's some some things and is there something you knew about this because you've called about this probably ten times in a row yes yes there is but you don't have any patients oh yeah i do i just want to get to the point the point the point the point there are many points there are many points one of the points is that well hey you radio program works so i talk talked to the people that i want to hear and it apparently works your program is being heard ian congratulations good after i do after i do that then n. p. indians here in new mexico have been looking at my facebook page and liking this and sharing that and things like that so i just wanted you to know that your program is working in your being heard you're being heard in the navajo nation and the rest of the the tribe that here k. e. n. out of farmington you've probably got some southern utes you you got some patchy you got twelve lows you got a lot of indians listening to you that's what he said yeah yeah you like euthanasia take you you can america you've been america so why don't you stay hello to him he and since you're being heard out there hello to all of our our listeners rightful for cleaning you do i don't think we interact with our listeners by opening the phones and letting them call in that's how we we interact with what they're not gonna call those listeners are not gonna call in you do you know why they're not gonna call in because they don't they generally lee speaking there are exceptions they don't generally want to interact with white people basically i know i'm white that did you just assume ethnicity it's we don't even need to go there are you saying that i would sound indian if i that that i would sound differently if i weren't white yes you yes you would and indian knows in a second you're not indian what a and the answer the reason we're talking talking about this is because i was trying to tell tell you you said that you wanted them to call on yourself and i'm telling you unless you reach out they're not going to call and talk to you because it's part of the culture they don't wanting to do with you until they until i don't really care if somebody doesn't call it's that's their problem it's it's fine it's not it's not an issue it's not even a problem album is you if you're a listener to the radio you're not expected to call show ninety nine point nine percent of people that listen to this show are never going to call 'cause has there listeners they wanna hear what's going on they want to be entertained hopefully you know between when they get up for work and drive to work or drive home from work to to the house house or go into the store or listening at home because they don't wanna do something else or whatever whatever their reasons for listening are 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this property rights and stuff often it's so funny has anybody brought up loyal title or silver certificates having to do with the landownership we talked about a local title yet tonight but it certainly has been talked about previously can you define that for our listeners who have not heard the term well well i i it'll be rudimentary but basically it says that you know back in the great land grab you would get this title dole that was totally different than what we have now and and i think it's been all changed because of that nineteen thirteen amendment that went in for the IRS to get taxes wherever there there's a conjoining factor there in why a loyal title or silver certificate is not observed anymore in fact there have been people up here in this neck of the woods who have tried to fight it and counties have had their prosecuting attorney he's basically going against is saying no that's not true can happen and i understood the local title thing and there may be somebody listening who knows more about it it was basically a title issued by the king the true kind of at least it's time the indicator that you actually own this property that it wasn't that there was nobody else that had claim on the tidal title or on that data land above you in it's sort of set it was kind of like almost like a sovereign title in some ways it's now that sounds similar similar to to what alert would have had during futile days where literally his title was his title so you know north arthur lured northumberland yeah was the guy who owned the light county of northumberland count the count on they they didn't use counting that in england but same sort of idea right count and county are are rooted in the same language and so there are are people like you said joseph who have been seeking this sort of almost mythological title on the belief that there are still some sort of way way by filing the right paperwork or you know saying the right words in front of the right government judge or something like that that they'll somehow be able to unearth this thing and just saft bury the philosopher's stone on the on the property but then you have to go find that but it hasn't really happened where anybody's really been able to proved they have a local title or acquire the local title at least not that i've seen have you well they they did have the land grab here in in the early west and where the government wanted to get people onto these pieces of property thirty and they they didn't have to pay taxes like we do you know there there weren't all these extra amenities like schools and and public employee's and and you know stuff like that that went on and so they they had racists sorta like in the movie far and away where you know tom cruise is went out to grab a piece of property that was that was freed from the federal government and we've lost it today because basically basically everybody just wants to you know have their lots of in the morning go to work at a beer at night watch TV and and these details here talking about out don't make a difference in it'd be okay if it was just it didn't make a difference for them but the more people who don't understand what we've forgotten the worse off everybody is there's no doubt joseph thank you for the call tonight i appreciate hearing from you the toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free let's go to jerry in myrtle beach listening to w. r. n. n. hello jerry you're on the air okay yeah i've done some research on this property tax deal and i'm seventy one years old and back when i was younger and you know became property owner to see what was up i guess and well pretty much gotta pay it and we're looking at a a pro maybe a land patent something like that but i did learn to 'cause i you know john didn't care much i just didn't pay property taxes but they came measure department everything and i'm going to take it back but i did learn that we're they send you a hey bill or not you must find them and check and see what you crave about somebody right because the the folks in detroit that we were talking about didn't receive the notices sent by the town or the county or the city of detroit or whatever and not paying undertaxed well there's plenty of reasons to not pay taxes if you don't get a bill you're supposed to seek them out and say hey where's my bill yeah that is a way to avoid having the criminal gang common steal the property from you but yeah i mean what you're pointing out here is that they are going to take from you they will take your blood they will take take your life they will take your property they'll take everything they can get away with taking from you as long as they can keep you alive ideally they wanna keep you alive so they can continue to take from you but if they need to kill you to make a point to the other peons they certainly will it's always a absolutely right yeah another thing too who said that you you cannot have a free state without property ownership i'll know they're right i mean you obviously can have freedom without the ability to have property the founding fathers said that if you if you have to pay down your land you don't ever get paid for that's right you're just you're just a glorified renter in case thank you jerry for your call tonight you're trying to say something there nobody it's basically serfdom yes you know you're renting land from somebody else for the rest of your life and there's no way to get out from under as piano says in our chat room on dischord server he says property tax is a license granted occupy a piece of land for a year you can and sell your license like you can sell a liquor or taxi license eight fifty five four fifty three and that ain't freedom folks not even close just an illusion talk live do you have a crypto wealth advisor or coach if so as you're cryptocurrency advisor been investing in technology stocks for over twenty years have they left the corporate world and retired 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sounds like something that bought programmer would have to figure out how to do i'm not saying it's impossible it may very well be possible if you have the source to the bottle look at it you'd have to contact wests who is the person who wrote this particular bott he's he's one of our chatters you know actually sure nobody so yeah i don't know the answer is i don't know gene that's a good question okay anyway anyway about the november fifth million mask march in hong kong did try to find them i was spent like four hours walking around the supposed to be just to be clear i know there's been protests in hong kong over chinese government gang trying to take greater control control over the the co the country of you want to call it a country or whatever the protectorate or whatever it is but what's been happening i mean what's this massmart ah that's correct they were doing all of those in every saturday are every weekend they pretty much are protesting against the chinese government but on november fifth they were going to be doing the million mask mark along with the rest of the world and that was primarily focusing on assange oh really thinking yes but i think in hong kong it kinda reverted back to the their same issues which was you know all fighting against the communist chinese i didn't get like i said i've marched i walked around there for four hours trying to find it and they changed the location nations so i i didn't get to actually see it but i did talk to one kid who was playing guitar on one of the walkways he's going over the highway sand he was had a banner there for the the freedom march people and handed little guitar players have a little place for you to put some money so i put some money in there and i talked to him for a bit and i get the idea i mean i know what these guys are are wanting they're wanting liberty they think they want democracy but of course they really don't want democracy if you were tweet me just to be clear the people in hong kong who are protesters or the million mass marcher books the protesters in hong kong okay because you know the the the thing for assange really didn't pan out i wish it had you know scientist is going to be killed by the gunar renta there's a headline we didn't get to hear tonight but wikileaks founder julian assange his father fears his son will die in prison that's the new york post is reporting and i think i think that was the goal all along and i think they're going to succeed and i am afraid that the communist chinese are going to succeed in hong kong as well as you know i talked to this kid they all have their heart in the right place you know they want liberty that's what they're fighting for they then they're doing it for everyone in hong kong and the thing is most of the people in hong kong or a good portion of people in hong kong wrong support the protesters but i saw on the television news broadcast of course it's it's the government controlled news right and it was so incredible the propaganda even though it was in a language i couldn't understand i could tell by by the way they were depicting everything they actually did re-creations of bad you know protesters beating up people with big long sticks and stuff and i mean i mean it was just as corny it was as corny a recreation as you could imagine that they were trying to make it look like protesters were attacking innocent people this is this is the propaganda that mainland china is promoting on all of it they didn't have any actual video of it so they made a dramatization of their story well they would take some video clips that were real you know where somebody is fighting back trying to protect themselves and then they would include some some obviously fake staged acting where guys doing like food they look like an old kung fu movie tell you the truth and while and they promoting of course that the the goons are the good guys in the protesters are the bad guys and the problem is that this technique sneak works and that is the real issue the real issue is that all these propaganda mechanisms actually work and they're in play here at the in the united states as well as overseas we are getting dosed with very strong amount of propaganda on both besides absolutely basically it's it's being set up to divide the people so that they don't see the real enemy the real enemy of course is washington DC it has been i mean i've been saying this for thirty years i called radio talk shows thirty years ago and told them your enemy is in DC it's not across some emotion somewhere on the other side of the planet and there and in hong kong is right there local which would be beijing even their own hong kong government is not their friend because their hong kong government is a bunch of stooges chirp belong to they belong to beijing and controlled by beijing and and their media is as well so i don't have a lot of hope for before nineteen i think it was nineteen ninety-seven or roundabout there when the british lost their ninety nine year lease or whatever it was in in hong kong and china hong kong was much from was yeah yeah so they were actually the what was going to say specifically yeah and they still are pretty economically free all things considered they still ranked number one compared to the rest of the world on the various different charts that rank economic freedom and that's to some extent because because the chinese government has not you know strangled angled the golden goose until just recently when they really started to crack down on these these protesters that's when it started to get pretty pretty bad at least that's when we started to talk talk about it again but you mentioned the state run television apparatus from china did they have independent news before nineteen ninety he seven and then how quickly did that get wiped out is it wiped out are there other television options in hong kong that are not state provided or is it all now you know the news agency or however you pronounce it from i don't know for sure about the television but i know about the print media the a good good portion of the print media in hong kong is now owned by the chinese news agencies there is at least one print media that is is an independent print media and and they are resisting beijing interesting but the tactics they're using is beijing shipping over operatives operatives because it's very easy to cross the border between aging hong kong so they ship over operatives in these guys typically are wearing white shirts because the protesters typically wearing black uh-huh so they these white shirt guys will run around in the subways and when they see the black shirt people they'll just start beating them with sticks and you know it's basically attr- triad type tactics it's the old triad i don't know if you had more to share from your trip to to hong kong but if you do you're welcome to stick with with us here the toll free number here is eight fifty five 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streets and that is a significant -nificant number since there's only population of six million in hong kong so that's a huge percentage of the population of hong kong supporting the protests now that kind of numbers could not be stopped even by the PR see if they came in there with guns because i mean eventually you'd be able to take the guns away from them you had those kind the numbers now they had marches where doctors and lawyers were protesting streets what's happened now because of the violence because of the thugs dugs beating up protesters because of you know the pressure from beijing and they're using along strategy they're they're putting pressure around the protesters there injuring some they're arresting some they're killing a few and what they're doing is causing those numbers disapprove of serious protesters dwindles because most of the people aren't going to go to the street and run the risk of getting killed or stuck in jail right so well not inflicting casualties on the other side i mean people will go out and fight if they think they have a chance but if you're just is going out and waiting to be picked off that's that's a terrible plan right right with no weapons this is so what's happening is the protests are are dwindling the beijing will eventually either kill or jail most of these poor kids and then basically beijing aging will have their way with hong kong i'm afraid that's exactly what what's going to happen and they're going to do it before the fifty year agreement one thing about beijing is they do not they don't honor any kind of agreement what was this fifty agreement i'm not familiar with that hong kong was supposed to be under to party one system system for fifty years after the english gave it up or i'm sorry to system one country and it's only been like twenty five now and beijing is already pushing to take it over so they i'm sure that they're going to get their way because the people don't have arms now this is a caution for americans because if they get our arms eventually this is the same scenario that we're going to be facing because of you look throughout history its happened every every single time it's not gonna change this time it's true it's it's it's still going to be the same so if the people give up their arms they can expect to be ruled by a dictatorship in the in the future and we've seen thing that these people understand is force of our research sure rebellion alien with arms and we've seen this happen in the united states with occupy wall street with black lives black lives matter now i've got political disagreements minutes with both of those groups but you know they go out unarmed and they get brutalized you know and and and yet a lot of these people are the same people who are saying restrict firearms ownership chip and i don't understand how they don't make the connection between not having guns and getting beat up by police because it's happening happening to them thank you gene for your call tonight appreciate the story there let's go to joshi's in dallas listening or watching us rather on twitch go ahead josh josh you're on the air yeah so i wanna talk about tech scammers just everybody know and you think voice changer changer that's okay hold about tax what does the tax scammer a text cameras so what they basically do is they send you a pop up your internet browser add another window and then and then it'll basically say like contact with number you have spyware a computer but there's also student loan scammers you know that i've been trolling with i met a guy in lauren kerm california number can share and we're not gonna give out somebody's personal phone number on here but what you do bring up here josh is a concern for folks who you know they may not know how the internet works particularly well they could fall victim to a variety of scams and some of these scams do involve i remember somebody called old are they didn't call here but somebody was called who you know we're connected to in new hampshire and they they the person on the other end of the line was claiming to be you from the IRS and saying that they need them to send them bitcoin in order to get the IRS wants pick yeah yeah and so it sounds legit this kind of stuff happens in josh thanks for the call tonight i appreciate it let's so yeah i if if you randomly see a pop pop up that says you got spyware or the IRS lots to talk to your whatever yeah that's not true right and if you call the number it's likely going to be some scam artist who's going to i tell you to connect to them allow them to connect to you remote desktop to get into your computer to help you of course clear out the spyware could nerine instead giving them full access to your computer so nobody got stuck to olympia she's in arizona watching youtube go ahead olivia in nobody i just wanted to make comments on the taking the help of stance actually thinking today how you're paying the government to tell you what to do with your own property that's right and i really hope that we don't have to make julian assange himself means that would it's bad actually made one already jeez oh gosh but the point being is still alive so let's act now pray before it happens so maybe it'll be less likely to happen but i i was i was trying to think of alternatives like how to get around pay property taxes and i'm already assuming that governor nobody would would abolish the property tax if given the opportunity i suspect you will you can i absolutely well i'm not gonna make that a promise because i can't do that unilaterally the legislature would have to work with me for that but i sure would try that's awesome but i was thinking three three the different things if maybe the tribe just bouncing these office time fast tried like an indian tribe would let you live on their land or maybe you could start your own city or well here's a here's a third idea liberty minded folks should migrate to the same political 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would you like to have your business featured on the liberty beat you can just in an email to liberty at dot news for details this the liberty be produced in partnership with SOS news and listeners like you the liberty is online at liberty dot news and SNL dot news i'm merle reporting for the liberty reminding you spread liberty with a smile and you know drone on about this or that very things and i've tried to make it more your personal and that aspect to kinda show my personality and i feel like that's really good if you use humor people aren't as mean to you they kind of it kind of breaks extolled the complex into the very simple and you know getting people to laugh his big toe and communicating to them so i feel personally that you can get a little bit burnt out on this kind of activism stuff i know i sort of tried to do a little bit more personal development and just a little bit more time for me in general that's what i've been trying to set some of those boundaries and you i'm sure have gone through somewhat similar experiences especially now that you've pulled back and you've had a child do you wanna tell me a little bit about you know how that transition has been for you sure so i was kind of naive when i was pregnant with my baby be now i was like oh yeah i continue being libertarian activists and traveling the country and making youtube videos full i learned that being a mom is much harder than i ever thought so i kind of pulled back a couple of years ago and just focused on my son and i mean that's what i had to do and i'm glad what i did that but now i'm kinda back a little bit older now he's more independence i'm other people can watch them now so i've been more active but yeah i mean it was really good actually asleep for my mental health to pull back a little bit i was so focused on him i wasn't paying attention to the news which is really good because the news is such so you're really bad for mental health it's bad for your anxiety they're like the post all his fearmongering stuff they like to make angry make you sad and kind of focusing on my family was really good for mental health but now like i said he's older gained more back into it but yeah it's it's been crazy the past year or two i can imagine agent so what are people all say that having a kid is hard what makes it so hard and what are some things that you were shocked by because i don't know i don't don't have a kid i gotta tell you i love my niece and nephew but it's it's kind of you know it's easy to hand them back and then not deal with them when they're screaming and stuff so how do you deal with some of those challenges well they are very very demanding it's like the most demanding boss you'll ever have i mean i it's wonderful wonderful that's great but it can be very hard at times if we're being honest the hers thing for me was honestly just the lack of sleep in the beginning i like to sleep like we all do and just waking up every half hour to go feed him and you not the bed and just like being zombie for respite day and having this demanding child who who had he was very very clingy to me at the beginning and he wanted to be held in walked constantly link and like on a very very lack of sleep i was so hard the most surprising thing though that i've realized is how judgmental people hard hard for me like i said my baby was very clingy and people would get on to me like oh you need to put that baby down let him cry and i always holding him and i was kind of really strange to me now i've kind of realized that her culture the american western culture does not like babies as much as i heart lights because they're very much like oh flip a baby cry put that baby town don't hold that baby so much douse me was very strange i've kind of been looking at how how eastern societies and different societies treat their babies and they feel they treat their babies much better than we do which is kind of a shock to me yeah that's definitely surprising do you think that there are like did you read any books or anything like what was your approach to trying to manage i mean it's your first child so so how did you figure it out i went to the internet because i the my doctor's appointment i felt like they were so judgmental to me about how much i woke woke up to take care of my baby and i was all this stuff i found which called attachment parenting which is you carry your baby extended breastfeeding you co sleep with them and that's what he was like oh my gosh i finally stopped people who were doing the same things that i was doing and it was completely normal to them and i realized that i was kinda raised in the same way i go with my parents are breastfed for a long time my mom was always holding us i was very clingy baby too so i kind of realized there were people out there who are doing exactly like i was doing a william sears is off famous beautician who talks about it and i kind of feel like there's an overlap between attachment the parents and libertarianism and peaceful team which i'm also do i obviously do not speak my child so it was kinda like this whole kind of thing that was coming together in my mind nine i had no idea about before i had a kid i did not realize that there was so much about libertarian parenting but i really didn't know so that was refreshing to me to find find all these people who shared my philosophy as well as my parenting philosophy does that tie into attachment theory are you familiar with attachment theory we talk about it quite a lot in terms of a- an adult relationships it does a bit one of the things i was also surprised about is how much how you're treated as an infant impacts you for the rest most of your life like you obviously don't remember when you're a baby but how you're treated by people around you and your infant carries for the rest of your life they've done software like how much are carried as a baby affects your DNA how much you're hugged and how much you your parents respond to you i know in american culture crying out is popular when you're putting your babies sleep and they've done all this research about how actually harmful to your baby like your baby wants to be held your baby wants to be responded to so i've realized that infants up until like they're three years old how you're treated it's so important in packs accent for the rest of their life yeah i have heard about the variance in the original prescription of letting them cry it out and self soothe and i would agree with that i think it's interesting as an adult seeing for example my own family interact with the baby you know what i mean it kind it gives you little hints and stuff as to as to how things worked out in your own relationship with your parents sometimes i find my mom to be a little bit challenging and had my my problems my job before but they're really really lovely with the kids so it's kind of interesting to see the family dynamics as new people are added into the family because we have a relatively small small family i think it mellows everybody out did everybody in your family act the same or or were there any kind of changes in your family after you had had your child really like you say you can see how your parents interacted with the baby and you kind of assume they did the same with you and i've i've kind of realized how much i agreed with what my parents did when i was a child the attachment thing i don't like my mom said back in the eighties no one really we was doing that she kinda just trusted her instincts and i feel like so much parenting really is trusting your instincts if you feel bad about letting your baby cry there's a reason reason for it back in the caveman days i mean all babies slept with their mothers i was biologically normal and i feel like today we're kind of pushing babies to be so independent and early age when they really can't handle it you know cribs and stuff for modern inventions so i kind of see what my parents have done with my son i've kind of realized that they did the same with me so no i'm i'm very glad with how i was raged brace for the most part that's awesome what do you think there's so many things that i wanted to ask you about i was reading an article about how children are getting put into preschool really early and they are also also getting prescribed medicines and stuff like that i think homeschooling becomes a little bit more of a real option as they get older just because i hear so many horror stories about public school how do you navigate some of that because obviously it's great to be able to send your kids school and be able to get stuff done eventually but have you thought about putting in your son into early schooling do you have any concerns around that what do you think of the public school system one up there yet but i've seen those studies that say we're pushy in a schooling schooling on kids too young especially preschool and stuff that kids they really want to play and play actually educational for them at that age and socialize is with other kids and having fun but we're putting like these three year olds in these schools they were teaching them oh here's your numbers use your colors cutting sitting down and learning but they're not really learning because they're really just memorizing a bunch of stuff and i know they've done studies that say by the second grade kids that you were in these preschools are not better better off than kids who did not good preschool so it's just really the memorizing stuff and when really the beneficial thing right back at age is emotional intelligence like do you like to talk about and socializing with other kids so it's better for them just to kind of play and socialize and yeah they're learning numbers everything later on of course so i think we are seen in kids to learn in school environment too young wondering just not ready for it how have you decided to deal with x. scenes i mean there's you know my sister-in-law she had a lot of vaccines and i think that would be probably something that i would be a little bit reticent with because any kind of research i've seen it hasn't been that intense tense but anything that i've seen has been sort of inconclusive and there's kind of wild claims on either sides how did you navigate that what did you decide you know if you if you're okay with sharing that oh lord i don't know if i want to hear that i feel like people on both sides of that debate are absolutely crazy but i will tell you that i did did research i looked a bunch of stuff online i looked at the government websites and i looked at people you know the mommy blogs and see what people were doing but really at at the end i trusted my doctor i talked to my doctor about my concerns and we came up with something but yeah i feel like people not debate or absolutely crazy that i we get so much hate no matter what so you know do your research trust your doctors find a good doctor first of all i feel like not all doctors are good so so you know talk to people and come up with your own decisions yeah i think it's definitely not a fun conversation to have with people because they we have a very strong opinion one way or the other and i can understand why their questions on both sides so that makes sense go to your doctor guys get a good doc going back to to something that you said spanking what i wanted to know about was you said that you choose no spanking which makes sense although some people would say well sometimes times a kid is going to run into the street and they need something a little bit more shocking to get them out of it and to get them to behave correctly what has has been your method to work around having to spend because obviously i'm sure your child is lovely but not always perfect sure i think so it's really important the the parents child relationship inch and i feel like spanking kind of destroys fat i just kind of feel like spankings lazy because it does work in writes in so if you think your child of course they're going to listen to you at the moment but really overtime over breaks down the parent child relationship i think it's similar to yelling and you know that's something that i've tried to work on over the years yelling is effective in the moment somebody will listen to you but at the end it's really damaging over oh for long term so i think the problem with spanking is it's obviously hurting your child which is a bad thing i would say but in that moment you can get addicted to staking you think it would be addicted to yelling for i think it's really kind of about having self control and trying to reason with your sean coming with alternatives that don't hurt that parent child relationship ship because if your child is scared scared of you they're not over time going to respect you and i think it all comes down to respect i wasn't really spanked as a child and i i know some people say oh you're spoiling your child and all this but i think my parents have a good relationship with me partly because i wasn't spanked partly because i fear them i respected them they think we can think that's fear specter the same thing but they're not it's more important for your child to respect you how do you establish that i mean do you do timeouts what specifically to us in terms of techniques or right now my son is pretty young he's a toddler in those can be challenging it can be challenging the grocery bruce restore and stuff and he's kind of melts out i don't be timeout because he's still too young to understand that but i just try to reason with him i just try talk to him i try to be calm i think that's the most important thing for me to become and motherhood i've really learned to have patience with i did not have before or just to kinda breathe and talks calmly and try to settle him down i found that to be more effective i would say i have not yelled or anything on him but i find just if i'm calm he's looking at me how i'm reacting like for instance when he falls down he's running he falls down if i kind of overreact and go oh my gosh you okay okay he's going to overreact himself but if i come up to him and say hey you okay buddy she she's fine so i've learned that how i react to what he's doing he's going to model behavior so i've tried to just come common a reasonable approach okay awesome thank you for sharing all that what is what is going on now you wrote a book i guess it's a little bit like like a kids version of i pencil tell me a little bit about nobody knows how to make a pizza sure so over the years a lot of people have said that a lot of kids like listening to me and my youtube channel so i've had the kind of like a kid audience to begin with and i didn't wind write a book for a while you know it's like okay i want to read a book but i don't want to write the same book that everyone carrion rights you know julie breath the bavarian men fest manifesto whatever because i feel like there's so many libertarian books out there and i kinda wanted to make a book that made an impact more so than just me expressing my opinions so i was like okay how about a kids book i know there's some libertarian kids book out there and they're great but i want kind of job little bit different and i was like okay what can i do here i didn't wanna make like a political indoctrination kinda creepy book or anything so it's okay i pencil is a great lesson to teach kids about how nobody knows how to make a pencil there's millions of people involved in the all kind of do their own thing they all have their own on specialized skills but pencils are pretty boring when kids kids don't really care that much about those okay what you care about and i'll say okay pizza how about a cheese pizza and talk about all the millions of people who are required to make bunch pizza how she looks pretty simple but there's so much more than meets the eye a. and all of this spontaneous order the comes and visible hand and division of labor and i really took those complex ideas in broke them down into very simple fun book and i've had got a lot of good response from people saying that their kids love and parents love it too and it's not just for libertarian parents i've really tried to make any kind of a broad book because just teaches economics so i've had a great response and i'm really excited about it how did you get interested in an economics was something that you learned in school or was it something inspired by politics that's a good question you know when i think about it as a kid i was always kind of entrepreneur entrepreneur i remember in middle school i had a baby sitters business where i was making money baby sitting and like i advertised in the newspaper and stuff that's like that i've always i have a dog walking business later on and we met late middle school they've always kind of been interested in entrepreneurship worship which kind of ties into economics and then i became a libertarian they realize there's a thing called the austrian school that comics which i had never heard of i assumed it it had something to do with the country of austria how does the economics economists came from there but i thought it was like the government of austria and i was so confused refused and then i kind of learned about ron paul talking about the austrian school and that kinda got me really excited about it because i always believed in capitalism and free markets but when the austrian school i was able to articulate it better and learned about money which i just assumed like oh it just just paper money that's money that's what the government said there's money and i've kind of learned about the history of money and all kinds of things that were pretty pretty boring too probably most people but i kind of learned and i yeah i guess that's how i kind of learned about economics through my own entrepreneurship and then later on i was able to attribute it better because people like ron paul did you to release the book yourself i mean talking about entrepreneurship to to have the initiative to write a book was that hard for you and what is that process like can anybody just just published a book right now what are some lessons that you learned along that path y- it's really cool i don't because you can go on i did amazon kindle direct publishing pushing in anyone can self publish for me i really wanted to self published because i wanted to have control over the book i didn't wanna have some publishers say no no that's not good don't cut that out or you know them pick who my illustrator was i will really wanted to have self control over it i i hired in a straight because i suck at drawing myself i went to this website called up work which you can hire freelancers and i just said okay this is the book look book idea who wants to bid on this project and i had this lady tatiana cobra tova bid on it from ukraine she did an amazing job creations wins and i had like an editor found awkward because i really wanted like the writing to be strong so i wrote it out do the draft and we went back and forth the editor so it it wasn't long process of writing editing and illustrating this book but i did it all myself i've always kind of been like a self starter like i'm not gonna wait for somebody to tell me what to to but yeah i just did this book and i uploaded on amazon i'm doing all the advertising myself so it's really cool that we don't need a publisher sure you don't need an agent i just have this social media following that kind of took advantage of bad in wrote this book so it's really kind of a nice time or living in yeah yeah absolutely it's cooled it will make a very good christmas gift so i already know what you do for that what is going on for you next going to write another book are you gonna make some more videos is anything in the political world that you commenting on oh yeah i'm right in the second book now it's probably gonna take a while because they have all these ideas in my head i'm trying i put translate them on the paper and you make them appealing for kids but fun educational at the same time i'm also slowly getting back into making videos i've done a few videos recently about climate change that's the big bang it's it's nice because the climate change thing isn't so much related to trump i feel like all like the headline stories over the past year or two it's been like pro or anti trump which is happening to me 'cause i really wanna talk about the ideas and stuff not just like pol politics so i've got into making more videos and i hope you know i wanted to do this thing where i want to really be when i want to release them i feel like in your regular youtuber you kind of have to pump out content every you know every couple days and sometimes you're not really that proud of what you produce you just like what have to make this bedia yeah right but i really wanna make videos when i want you when they have a good idea so i've kind of i'm kind of thinking i'm going to do that from now on just when i ever have the spark ideas i'm gonna uploaded video you have a preference on what's going to happen in the political arena do you have a horse in the race do you think anyone is going to go up against trump i wonder if he'll we'll come back we'll see i don't know if she will i feel like it's kinda late for her to get in and she will no i mean there's no democrat candidate that i support you know it's kind of in the libertarian party i've kind of been looking at it but i don't think there's anything really that's that's gonna compete with trump there so i don't know for me i've kind of removed myself from like politics i just kinda wanna talk about the ideas i want to write these children's book i one of kind of have an impact on education more so than than politics i feel like it's just kinda gotten out of control yeah i understand i feel the same way i also so feel like after the two thousand twelve elections i just i don't know i think that there's so many different things that you can do to bring about a change in the world and the government while i think it's good for people to yeah i guess pursue political office especially on a local level i just i'm not really big fan i think that a business and entrepreneurship and family and love her the the things that will carry us through are there any things that you do right now to show your family your lover that somebody does for you like is there anything that you think that you can improve upon upon or share with people who might want to build a better relationship with their loved ones okay about this one i think you know i'm not that's somebody who not very i'm not somebody who are constantly says like oh i love you i love you i love you that's not really me i tend to show suppose my love through my actions and one thing that i tend to do pretty much every night is i cook a home cooked meal it just kind of showing my effort i try to make from healthy ish so i think that's one of the things i do i think just yeah just do my actions and you know like i said earlier if you're trying to find fall on me i've been trying to work on my yelling and i have been my family has told me that it's gotten a lot better at that i've gotten a lot better just being patience so oh yeah i think just my my cooking probably the biggest one how i show my love i think that sounds like an acts of service we did a show of the five love languages wages do you have any recommendations i mean you have your book right and everybody should make sure that they go out and get nobody knows how to make a pizza it's awesome what ages is that for i said it's ages three to eight and that's a pretty broad range i feel like a lot of parents even toddler say they've loved the pictures there's a a lot of cute it's a really really cute book the pizza and they love that and they look eight seven eight year olds they can understand economics behind it so yeah i would say three take eight is a good range and so any book recommendations that you have things that have helped you in your personal life or your or your baby oh gosh i don't know to be honest with you have not been reading books over the past year or t- i've been mostly just reading articles about parenting i just read like a lot of facebook the pages about attachment parenting peaceful parent team yeah to be honest with you yeah i've kind of not really had the time tree books that's fair do you have families that you guys kind of hang out with or do you kinda keep it intimate for her now like do you hang out with their libertarian parents and do you guys talk about all these public schools no i don't know that mainly caring parents near us we itin i tend to hang out with my parents which can be difficult at times when they find out like you i am my internet presence is kind of awkward a situation but there's a lot of community events we go to we meet parents only meet you i think that like i said like socialization and playing with other kids is so important right so i wanna get my son exposed to different kids so yeah i mean it's mostly dorm parents and you kind of have to bite your tongue at times but yeah it's fun one maybe that's actually a way to sort of bridge the gap with people because even if i was a regular parent that wasn't political and i saw your videos i think that i would find kim funding playful i don't know if i would think it was such a i don't know it's not like you're alex jones or something you know so maybe it'll open up some conversations and any final words fireproof lovers what about audience members that haven't found love do you have any advice for them there are people who have not found love advice i don't know i've been out of the dating scene for so long it's really hard for me to give advice but one of the things i vic fan my twitter pages i've i go to DM from people men and like all this as like high or hey and i don't i don't know why that is i feel like they're like a better response from women if they like ask like a relevant question or introduce themselves it just i don't know they just say one word and expect an answer so i feel like probably your communication needs to be better i also i also so feel like the best from people i know and people i've seen he's got into relationships i like the best chance of getting into one that actually actually works is your friends like your friend introduce you to somebody who's kind of been vetted by them i feel like that might be a better strategy than i don't know what they do these days like tender and stuff and we kind of it's a wild card out there so i feel it kind of relying on your friends they introduce you to people or even like like your parents which i know is kind of weird some people think oh one of my parents nobody feel like your parents kind of have your best interests at heart usually and maybe they know oh somebody like family friend or somebody or you know not everyone is religious i know but i feel like church is a good way if you're religious to meet somebody i feel like a lot of young people who are even religious aren't involved in church i feel like that's a community of people so i don't know i guess that's kind of my best advice as tonight that i could give people what about people that are this is a good idea for rom com people that are not that religious but they hear that church is a good place to meet someone on and then they find jesus along with love i think that's that would be a good show yeah you know i was actually reading an article the guy who started h in which is like fortune fortune but even worse he was very miserable and his life and it wasn't until he went to church he actually found religious and the act religion and he actually actually found a wife there and he like completely changed himself and now he hates AT&T to me and i was kind of funny yeah i you don't have to be like that religious go to church which might may sound bad but just kind of just really having a community in getting off the internet for once and you you just realize that people aren't that bad i feel like if you're on the internet you really kind of i know from me i've i've had a very depressing viewer people because there's so much amory people and so much hateful people on the internet and you go out and realize hey people aren't that bad so given volcan you community whether that's church i guess you can go on like meet meet up dot com and kind of see like hiking clubs like biking clubs book club stuff like that i think just taking a small step and gain out in the real world is probably so so much better for mental health and you might meet somebody i like it very cool julie one more time where people pick up the book and where can people connect with you it's an amazon john right now nobody knows how to make pizza muscle and social media pretty much julie borowski across the board on their awesome so guys we'll leave some links in the show notes notes thank you all for listening thank you so much julie for coming on the show telling us a little bit about motherhood and your book so this has been great if people wanna listen into this show it is found on proof of love cast dot com like podcasts but love casts and we come up with shows on fridays you should please share this on your social media or maybe write a review on itunes we're all over the place you can find yeah queen tatyana on twitter animal over the internet google me there's links in the show oh and also if you like the political talk on this show you can go to the tatyana show dot com where we talk about crypto politics activism different stuff like that hopefully hopefully not in an offensive way this information is new to some of you anyway thanks so much julie for joining us today we'll see you next time unpredictable of thank you xiaomi heart tell me that you uh i agni sompong yeah thank 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RN dot FM the latest edition of sherry voluntary is next on the liberty radio network l. r. n. dot FM get more at shows dot dot l. dot FM aw from beautiful east tennessee in the foothills of the smokey mountains you are listening to this sherry voluntary show i'm your host jerry volunteering i'm joined by my producer extraordinaire he wishes i gotta i take this mask off it's annoying the hell out of me i don't see how people go and do these for hours and protests where that stuff government yeah yeah my face got debris though look at maybe it's like an indentured on my head a what i've noticed is a lot of the kids in hong kong they put their masks on the back they were a surgical mask on the front smart leave it to the people in hong kong to be smart like that careful they are asians alderson's you don't wanna stereotypes but but stephan all news says i q matters the and listen to stem and mulinuu any who a little off topic but so today we wanted to talk not a little bit about because this is the fifth of november and of course that's when guy fawkes tried to blow up parliament so please like to commemorate that just a little in our own smalley no we're not saying what he was his end goal wasn't okay because it was a big socialist blah blah blah but the idea blowing up parliament is fantastic dan tasks and you know of course nobody would have known about that except for that great movie in her vendetta it's one of the most rewatch -able movies i've seen i can watch that every year on this day it hasn't really given we should watch it we should i hadn't planned to do that we should watch it's like i'm not feeling very well and i'm kind of just gonna go lay on the couch after this so we should just do that but you know when the the thing about the for vendetta that is just sickening and sound pretty natalie portman knows even bald why is that sickening acting that's awesome because she's awesome thanks terrific you i mean not only is pretty awesome i will give you that and she's gorgeous even even with had saved like not a lot of women can pull that off but it's a shame that movie series ruined her career you think oh absolutely there's just one well she was all three three what oh you're talking all star v for vendetta there's a career at all no no it was entirely george lucas there ruin her future you know what's interesting to me as as a person who and you as well who believe in the non aggression principle i'm assuming you believe in the non aggression principle daniel mostly so people who like us who believe that it's very difficult to decide because we you know so for those of you who may not be familiar the libertarian nonaggression principle is that the only ethical use of violence and force is in defensively so aggress be the first to aggress but defensively then then that's okay because that person's already violated your your rights but clearly in this country people have been violated over and over and over again our rights but but it's very difficult because of the way it's done on such a large level for individuals to know when