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Episode 231: Snow Valley, Oklahoma (Entry 1182.JB2419)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

1:12:35 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 231: Snow Valley, Oklahoma (Entry 1182.JB2419)

"Nothing awesome we are Jennings and John Rodrick. We speak to you from our present which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century during the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization we began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica. That would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or have just reinvented the technology to decrypt our our transmissions. This is our leggit you. This is our time capsule this is the you have accessed entry. One one eight two dot J. B. Two four one nine typically number one seven three nine eight New Valley Oklahoma mainly far more. You don't cut defense Vince. You cut the that hit the people that's raw. Fats is important to keep the Catalan now as a musician John Roderick. Don't no no no no. I was musician. You've heard the word Paola. Sure sure Paola is a big part of the music industry then and now is it still. That's what I was going to ask. Oh well I mean it depends on how now how you calculate what payment is just just explain to viewers. There was an early scandal. Early in the Rock era of of a record labels and unscrupulous manager types paying off radio stations and DJ's to play certain music that's right which was important because airplay would not only deter it determined chart rankings it goose sales and back then individual. Dj's could dictate playlists lists. And why wouldn't they play the plotter that came with a little bit of a few few or a few hundred bucks and it became a scandal such that the FCC crackdown and maybe even new regulations and legislation was passed to say that. No the you cannot. It's a it's a form of bribery essentially right but you can't keep Paola out of the entertainment business. How could you just thinking how that law would be written? It just seems impossible. People like the the records that get what are called end caps in record stores which is to say that they get a little display at the end of the at at the end of the row. That is the thing that record labels super paid for supermarket. You expect that Nabisco paid to put the triscuits right there. Right right and the store is recommending triscuits because there is whole goodness well independent record stores. I think that people kind of do suspect that a lot of that stuff stuff. Is there something different one. It's an art. Not a cracker. The employees pick but in today's world where people don't really buy records records in record stores but they get them online. There are all kinds of ways to to to play with the algorithms that put things on the charts and we see it in book publishing to where a company will donald trump's in right father will buy one hundred he's of Donald Trump Junior's book Yeah or a think tank right yeah I think the New York Times even has a symbol now to tell you you which items in the bestseller list have been goose by by book artist Dagger Symbol. That appears next to liberal tears colon. The snowflakes melted with my lasers by Charlie Kirk and. Then it'll be dagger like one Hundred Thousand Copy Charlotte Perks Dad Cochran days and I think like one way that That that works now is that That a ban will put their album on Amazon for ninety nine cents for the first day The first couple of days which goose's sales right they sell one hundred thousand copies of their record at ninety nine cents but the but the music business. This is only records that as one hundred thousand copies so suddenly the record is in in the top ten and they. Didn't you know it was a loss leader. They they they lost money on it. But they got into the charts and with all the visibility and the presumption is then that that will that will drive sales further sale. Wasn't there some gimmick. I don't know if this is still allowed. But in the past decade of artists labels giving out a copy of the work with a concert ticket or something that counts as a sale so prince. Yeah like like pioneered that idea when I went to see him here at the Keyarena back in the two thousands every person that walked in the door gotta copy his new record and he counted all of those for his soundscan right. His record sales and Prince of course is selling fifteen thousand twenty thousand tickets in every market in the country on on a national tour and so he was posting these incredible sales and I think eventually says no. You can't do that and he just. He baked this the album price into the ticket price. So you they were legitimate tearful press if you were going to pay seventy dollars for a ticket anyway and now it costs eighty eighty dollars. It was it was pretty genius and pretty obviously like prince level innovation but soundscan felt like everybody's going to do that and then it negates are completely imaginary. Send of rules bookstores do that as well. They got tired of people coming to the author event and then just on the way out the door buying the book on Amazon. So now your tickets to the event is the cubs with the seventeen ninety nine cover price of the book or whatever Did you have you ever in any way. Large or small practiced Paola. Are you now or have you ever been like it. Did you ever buy Bacon Bacon eggs for a DJ to play a record back in the day or no but you know there's so much there's so much in-kind work that you do when you're aband- and so sexual favors. Yeah a lot of that and and you know you drive out of your way to appear on. Somebody's Internet radio show you. Do you spend an hour your precious hour of your time making content for some influential. Dj somewhere and it's not. It's not money money but it but it's not money unless you think that your time is worth anything unless you're under the illusion that your time is worth something all of that is it's it's under the heading of promotion and that's what that Paola looks like to most people to know promoting the record and we're promoting it by throwing a party and that's right giving you. I mean I appeared in. I did a tour. One Time of New York City advertising agencies where my Labor is your record my label and my publicist walked me around Manhattan and I went and played three songs in five different big advertising agencies where you know I would say like well this next song which was about a terrible relationship. Asian ship I had that resulted in an ectopic pregnancy and death to all comers would be a great theme song for your new new eminem campaign here it is. Oh I see. That's what's happening. You're listening for yeah because those guys are now the taste makers the ones who could put you in a in a Volvo commercial. That's right and my I my label and publicist paid for a lobster. Roll lunch for to keep all these AD executives there in the lunch lunch room while I was playing. You can't just ply them with liquor like on Madman. Well the thing all together all super rich and those lobster rolls came right out of my royal but I do have to say that you know. It wasn't a couple of AD agencies used long winter songs in it ended up paying off all those and you think it was. I mean. I'm sure the songs are great. But I assume you were also very charming at the party. Terming the party and you know there are awful lot of songs that these people can choose from so if you put yourself in front of them. I cannot point to any one of those ads that came as a direct result of having done that stuff but the general the general idea that you need to you got a network. People will talk not just network but like provide lobster rolls to Manhattan lights in order to get them to listen to your songs in order to get them. I'm to consider using your song on on a Fiat Ad. I don't know if you're the real victim. Here John Consider the lobster no lobster gave his all. I'm not the victim. We're sitting in a bunker that was paid for by Fiat one that actually. I can't remember there was a there were there were a lot of ads. Fiat was one of the best. One was Miller. Beer at that They paid me the money and then never ran the AD. Oh that's even better. They were like Oh. We're changing direction. But we signed the contract. I was paid an insane amount of money. TO BE IN DOMINO'S PIZZA AD in which I pressed the Buzzer on. The Wall of a room in a pizza was delivered. It was like one of those smart smart home things. Did you avoid the one hundred hundred central and avoiding the noise but also the ad never. I may have told this in the entry. The ad never aired because they couldn't get the Buzzer to work around some version of the campaign. That did not have me on my button and yet the check was the same. How hard is it to get the BUZZER? He just he put a buzzer sound. In after the fact it's post they wanted it to be a commercial product that they could it kind of prototype. Oh it was a real fair. They wanted people to have a little smart home button. That when pressed order would place. They're they're familiar domino's order who who who during that much cardboard pizza who what what's that. Oh that's our dominant. There's a there's the kind of smart may still contemporary but a few years ago there was an idea. That's the smart homes of the future would have like in your laundry room. You just have a thing that you tap. And that's that tells Amazon to send you more more more detergent. You'd have a control board the the the the bridge of an old spaceship that had a ten thousand little flashing lights and this was like laundry detergent pizza. Pizza just be distributed instead of getting on your device and saying okay. I need detergent. I need pizza. I need flour by your flower. Being you tap the thing that makes flower here in the laundry room. You tap the thing that makes a great idea. They're thanking on the laziness of the American consumer. That doesn't WANNA walk downstairs. They were all they were all like buttons as big has the game. Sorry in the domino's that it was a comically large but I think I think just missed the fact that we because you have a phone smartphone. You essentially have that button at all times or you're you're ring camera that that somebody's hacked into and is whispering to you in the night. You need more paper towel or they've hacked into your button and now thousands of pounds of voter show up there detergent But Pale in there in the music industry is a live concern as recently as the early two thousands there was a settlement Where error Sony had to pay ten million dollars because they were making back door deals with large commercial radio change including including I assume our old corporate onto this previous corporate umbrella iheartmedia formerly known as clear channel the very successful rebranding? I have to do. I have to believe that a lot of this is money going from money in one pile being used to create money in another pile and the two piles are not affect the artist newell within within the Sony Accounting Universe which is my favorite of all the Superhero universes the Sony Account University. Sau like they can spend a million dollars to earn ten thousand dollars because of just the way they have it conceived. That's great. That's what's great about business so we but you know the US being a purely academic projects. We have only admitted entries on their own merits. We've never allowed Paola. AOL to color the coverage. We give to a certain cultural trend. We talked about the noise for an hour but domino's didn't send us a single pizza. Well I should say away. At risk of of of biting the hand that that failed to feed us but during the I heart media transition during the transition from how stuff works the company we originally signed to do the show with slash four with whom we combined when they were purchased by Iheartmedia. We started to get pitched quite a bit to due. Branded show. Haven't talked about that. We haven't what if somebody said one of the things you said you guys should do the history of dot matrix printers and Epson. We'll send you six-figure check what if Seagram sponsored a whole series of shows that you did on say Zima and other other fun fun alcohol pop. The funny thing is we would totally do Z.. Michele but the question becomes. Do you feel grubby doing that. same show no because secrets. Don't you do well or paid you to. I think I think as we started to see that the strategy was less to do let us do a show and just try to sell ads on 'em more to have our show be an extended opportunity ready for ads. This is that is where the money is turns out and that was where that was where we started looking for the ripcord. We got very skeptical that point and yet after despite all our ideals I am about for the first time to introduce the grubby. Specter of Paola. What to this previously a impeccably previously impeccable integrity of the omnibus? Wait a minute. Are you selling me out here. How am I just along for for the ride? Are you getting paid somehow a couple of months ago my seventeen year old son. WHO occasionally pitches dumb? Nervous Ideas Dylan Ellen. I think we're on the record as having one of us to do that. Blowout College football game. We did you know the two hundred twenty two to zero right. Whatever having mentioned Dylan we need also also now to mention Caitlyn the child I prefer? That's right I think Dylan's knocking to come off well in this story. Maybe we've we've complimented caitlyn application and we should we should. We should also stipulate that Caitlyn is prefers to be called Kate. She's Kate Care. In fact at school she's K. K.. And I didn't didn't know this it turns out there's another kate she's K.. To avoid confusion but I think she also thinks it's cooler because of course his name is cooler than your parent name. Although all you have to do is watch the Godfather. They're two very different. Feeling about the name K. I would be able to say now. He's being naive all the time. which fantastic for thirteen year? Old Girl let that happen happen K.. And I could just kind of the thing ride gently closed doors in her face. All the time so dylan came to me a a few months ago. And he and he pitches the show idea of Snow Valley Oklahoma and I say oh cool. What's the deal? I've never heard of Snow Valley Oklahoma and he says Oh. Well IT'S A. It's a failed ski resort. It's it's a funny story and I could drop Dylan. Thanks a lot. Thanks thanks for doing the research. Thanks for doing the LEGWORK. I and at some point. I looked up up Snow Valley Oklahoma to see why my son doesn't ski. Why is he an Oklahoma? He is not Oklahoma. He's never been to Oklahoma I don't know if I've been to Oklahoma Roma have you not been to Oklahoma. Eleven states haven't been too and I'm I'm pretty sure. Oklahoma is one of them now. This may seem counter intuitive. But let me recommend. Oklahoma US not counterintuitive. At all my my people are from Oklahoma O.. Mindy has friends in Tulsa spent time there. It's a fascinating state with a with a great variety of a of geography and And maybe less of a variety of culture but still an awful lot of culture will rogers or rodgers from Oklahoma birthplace of modern American. Topical Comedy is from Oklahoma of all places And at one point I asked. I can't really actually find find out much about this obscure bit of Oklahoma Lor. Where are you getting this from? And he said Oh I heard from my friend. Hayden is Hayden the the friends real name. Yes I'm naming Hayden on this show Hayden Okay and I think another couple months past and Dylan asked me again. Hey how come you didn't do Snow Valley Oklahoma like doing what. Why are you interested in this Oklahoma Ski Story? He says well. This is where the Paola comes out. He says what Hayden says that he'll give me some really rare pokemon cards if If Your Dad's podcast one over Stone Valley Oklahoma so Hayden listens to omnibus. Apparently seems unlikely on the face of it and Hayden had an idea. Hayden apparently has grant. I did some research research last night. Okay Dylan and I were texting back and forth with Hayden Hayden. It turns out you guys are all in the same house but you're texting. Winter Haven is not in our house. Hayden is in Hayden's house. Ah Hayden but Hayden Hayden mentioned his grandparents are from Oklahoma. I believe the region of Oklahoma that our story concerns and so he knew about this kind of funny local story of Snow Valley and thought maybe he had realized that we cover some of that kind of Americana and cultural detritus. Try To us in this venue and thought your dad should do that. And when it didn't happen he decided to sweeten the deal like rear pokey more a Dell foxy the X. Agreed-on X.. Two on tally ex. I asked the Dolans specifically I need to know which pokemon cards and he said why. And I said because I'm GONNA mention them on the show and now Dylan's all of a sudden backtracking a little bit right now realizes absolutely I have to ask Hayden cards words. Yes no it is not detail is the engine that drives journalism and storytelling. Did he start to feel like you. Maybe we're going to shame him on this show so I think he was starting to see this shape up and he wasn't sure if this was worth Adele Fox. Es Hayden although right now basking in the basking in the mention of his name is going to is. He's going to rule that he ever walked into two kinds of teens. There are the teens love to have the spotlight of adult attention gleaming on them right and then there are others who you realize the kind of what how how iffy and how compromised I think the spotlight of adult attention can be. Let's drop it. Let's drop the needle on the record right there and say these are seventeen year olds who are playing with pokemon. What is is going on? I shouldn't have graduated to cars or girls or something. The funny thing about Dylan is that he had an amazing Pokemon card collection and at some point and then he turned nine and was like. I don't need these anymore. And gave him do a buddy or gave him to goodwill or whatever you probably worth a million dollars and then we ah today in today's money. Yes are you kidding. No I think I think there might have been I think back. Then there were they were still being made by. I don't know how to Pokemon episode there at some point. They were being made by wizards of the coast. The magic the gathering collectible dose of those people and we're friendly with them and they that's a local outfit. Magic was a local product. And I think because of that you know these cards are now rare just as we said stamps and coins a rare if they have different trim or right you know so the look of the cards changed and now the old-timey ones how some cash that the fifty seven Chevy was made by Ford extremely rare. But then I think it may have happened again. We're dealing in regard into POK mon the pokemon fat at some point. Because is that what happened. The third time it happened. Yes it was pokemon go and now he's got a girlfriend and they go play pokemon go with with her parents. Pokemon go to your girlfriend's house. His his girlfriend is a sweet gal and she's she's really Nice Lady and she's unclear why she's dating has been welcomed calmed into your family and a really nice way. See her around there. All the time vice versa dylan often wants to bail on whatever. Activity is because his girlfriend's parents are playing pokemon. Go what Seattle Center and we we find that kind of. That's as close as we get to some wholesome family activities so wholesome at one level but also. I don't know very concerning turning at another level if they were playing backgammon. Of course we'd be all for it. Yes yes go play backgammon with your girlfriend's dad but if you if you if your if your a girl friends dad is playing cops and robbers with you that seems like so. It's not even the tech that concerns you. It's the real life immersive aspect now like we're going to the Seattle Center to play cops robbers. The my friends parents want to count. Yeah I'll just drive down there because I'm seventeen years old so hayden presumably as also part of this strange group of of of people who almost could fighting a war but are instead to keep eventual. Cookie kids are months away from being able to vote. That's threat. These children will be able to vote many of them in the two thousand ten twenty Presidential Action Dole will not. He'll be a week away from being eighteen. which is good one? Vote for trump. Ah But but I do feel like there's a there's less Jill Stein vote. There's a kind of a trope right now among people generation X. Bummer the the Gen X. boomer access yeah where there's a lot of sort of virtue signaling. Praise for a young people that's happening in the culture like the young people are amazing. got a cover there so smart. Let's give the young people power or and I'm like do not give young people power. What are you talking about? You remember being young person like of course they seem virtuous they have no they have only like five ideas ideas. Trust several young people. I trust a neuro typical Scandinavian children. That are concerned about global warming glaciers. The very nice but I would not give that child the keys to my house they say. Will you look after my house for you. Give Greta Thunberg your Domino's pizza buzzer. I many pizzas. She would would you give Greta Thunberg the password. The computer no like Gee I wish he looks very serious. I think maybe she would do my taxes right. She seems capable. Maybe Malala would would get my I My my charitable giving order. Maybe maybe the thing is my high school girlfriend. Kelly would have been absolutely trustworthy but she was my girlfriend and she would have invited me over to your house. She would be there doing your taxes and I would be like licking the the frosting out of breath of your frosted good. When you're a parent you actually come to enjoy what what is bashed in the media as the perpetual adolescence lessons of the rising generation right? Because you don't want your kids out Trying rave-drug day trading sure You and penny stocks that all combination you want playing cops and robbers the Seattle Center. Sure because it seems like the amount of trump keeps them out of trouble anyway all this by way of saying that in ten thousand years the microbe people are going to be. You're listening to Oklahoma Lor and I think they deserve to know that Snow Valley may not have made it into the omnibus on its own merits. Because it's almost entirely down the media meme whole unless you're from northeast North Central Oklahoma. It's a fascinating story. We'll know it's interesting to me. Is that if Dylan had if dylan had the wisdom of an adult. Instead of that of a child he would have contacted me about this story. Because I would have been like both Novelli Oklahoma thanks dylan but instead he went to his dad who I mean if he had come to you with some some story about how calculus is is used as a aphrodisiac. You would have been like. Yeah sure. But it's a ski story in Oklahoma. Here's wheelhouse yeah and he loves skiing. You Love Oklahoma. Homa he picked the host. That was going to that. was going to turn this into an episode about embarrassing his kid what. You're seeing the combination of two impulses that a lot of teams have or specifically in Dylan which is his desire for things for pokemon cards and his and his fear of of you. This fear of intimidating adults. And I'm I'm curious Dylan obviously has not found collecting and playing pokemon to inhibit inhibit his his appeal as a potential mate. Right like this is not going to who inhibit his ability to breed right. Even if you're nerd friends are into your nerd hobby. You realize the girls may not be engineered hockey but that may be a relic of our generation. Yeah right I mean the the kids that I knew that. Spend a lot of time trying to figure out how to make a broad sword. The assumption was that they would never have children the thing about making tekken exclusively male. Aol Province is. We often talk about how you know how it disenfranchised generations of women. That's the problem. We I still see today in in stem fields in the old boys network. That's built up around a lot of these professional angles but to think of the real victims. It's not teenage boys who could have been dating all this time if they're if they're if they're potential girlfriends had just been into star trek deep space nine as much as they were. That's right here and the thing is you know what did help You in the dating world in the nineteen eighties. At least in my experience peyote skiing skiing. And and skiing on Peyote like instead of snow or skiing under. Let's get enough peyote together that you are skiing on it. You're a big wheel. Is that a true story. Was There in Alaska in your youth. was there a lot an Ara of desirability and masculinity that surrounded skiing for whatever reason the nineteen seventies indies and eighties. Were were an era where skiing was ascendant. As a as a sport that communicated a kind of preppy upper middle classless and primarily because it's expensive and also the gear is expensive and it requires that you often travel long distances to do it and have a place to stay when you're there. I mean everything about skiing makes it not accessible and so it was a signifier of. It's a sport. The tries to keep people out that's very nature but also on a mountain. It's hard and so you exhibit prowess in addition to wealth and the prowess in a in a sexy glamorous way you know like James Bond could never play soccer against against an adversary but he could certainly only tried to out ski their henchmen and this is a great thing about skiing. And it's why appealed to me so much is that it is a solitary sport. I mean you're on a team. You're racing but but as soon as you start to move on Skis you're by yourself and you could be surrounded by other skiers but you are. You are alone. That's me all the time. You Know Need Ski Gig issue here. You're alone in your bubble until you come to a stop you know until you're down in the lodge and and and drinking hot cocoa so that appeals to a lot of people myself included loaded. Well speaking of driving long distances to have this experience this bubble experience. I take you now to Kelly Ville Oklahoma located in like like I said kind of North Central Northeast Oklahoma founded in eighteen. Ninety two by man named Kelly who Oklahoma was still Indian territory in eighteen ninety two capital. I Capital Capital T.. Indian territory on maps sure because it was the place that all these tribes were relocated because despite your insistence that Oklahoma is a great place to live. We hadn't found oil. There is no harm in placing Indians from Florida. To the DAKOTAS right. Nobody wants to live here of pre oil discovery After which we do episode on the the The osage Indian massacres of Oklahoma. And absolutely and I I don't laugh I laugh a rueful laugh right because it's a it is a sort of Tale H. H. B. O.. Is Getting into forgotten Oklahoma racism as well. They only tens of million million dollars into that watching. TV show. which is then you would think about? Oklahoma's troubled racial past. Had No idea. I haven't why I just assumed it was about the get an ink blot for a face. I don't think we can do the Tulsa massacre slash riots anymore. Just because it's common child in America now knows it. Oh Wow okay well. Maybe I should watch that show. Telly Ville Mr Kelly got permission from the bureau fairs or whatever to found a trading post or general store I get you guys get rich off the off the tribes like deadwood and grew into a town at some point You know had its own bank. You can post office and Cotton Gin. I guess must be must be cotton fields nearby but the depression hit Oklahoma. Kinda hard as you may know. And and so the population began to decline to the twentieth century for a long time it was on the storied route. Sixty six which is what kept it afloat. Oh it's on sixty six still on sixty day on. Fortunately totally sixty six sixty six. Everybody takes the interstate and that didn't help as well in fact in probably until this day the most famous thing that ever happened in Kelly Ville is the worst train disaster in Oklahoma history. History is an increasingly narrowing. So you're ready. The worst train disaster in Oklahoma Clo Homa history in the standards of American history. This is a pretty bad train disaster because it was a head on collision. How how them ahead? It's a trade. It's a railroad. You know what I really enjoy John. What do you enjoy? Can I enjoy these addenda entries. We've been recording you. Yeah we just got done us. We just got done doing addenda and it really They really stand on their own. It's fun because we have managed to have create create this group of thousands of people who do the work for us. They all have the things they want to add to interesting expertise in stories and they WANNA talk back to the podcast and of course. You can't look like an idiot on the train but now they can. They're suggesting their own material and in the steps are weaken we can share. Are Those to a to an audience in this time period and beyond sometimes we argue with them but most of the time they're additions are relevant and grand quite interesting. We're certainly respectful. That's right well. Yeah mostly but they they lead us to sometimes go go off own a different aspect of an episode. We've done yeah. 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You've got uncertain Johnson for different reasons less mustard gas related reasons. You've got you've got a bunch of less skilled people running all this stuff and more trains trains running because four because at Fort Sill Oklahoma there's a lot of troop trains running all right on. This is if it's on route sixty six. Then it's gotta be. What is this the Frisco? Line Lewis in Santa Fe. Yeah so you've got a passenger train from Saint Louis and Santa Fe go on one way you've got a troop train out of Fort Sill going the other way I love this song. It's a Gordon. Lightfoot saw America and the apparently the train had decoupled without without notifying whoever you notify when you split into two trains. I guess I don't know how this works. There's a second locomotive. Apparently brakeman would be talking into the people in the yard right in a series of lanterns in some kind of semaphore like arrangement. I don't I don't know anything but So apparently it was not clear to the passenger train coming the other way. They thought they were clear of the train. Did Not realize there was a second troop train. The second half the train is just a mile behind. So they get back. And that's how you get ahead on collision now back then. Trains are made of wood. which is not what you want in a head on would they were? Oh I see train cars right. I was trying to picture motive nick. This is your steam punk Oklahoma fantas much or no the train. Sorry the train cars in which most of the casualties found rights are made of wood so in in a car you want a crunch zone but at a train you do not want that crunch shown to be the passenger cars you want. You want to crunch zone in your Domino's pizza. Yeah absolutely what you get the crunchy crust in this case the crew. Of course both trains see what's coming and they jump to injury but safety. Apparently there's the captain goes down with the ship. You see it you you hit the horn a couple of times and you bail and the whistled bail and in fact. There is a sad crunch zone story. The newspaper accounts of the crash referred to this as a complete telescoping of the first few cars of each train and accordion. Yes yes yes not telescoping in a good way putting away your telescope. What it means is the mail car slammed right into the I guess it probably it up and then it landed on the next two cars? which were I? The smoker car where parlour those people deserve to die and second began. Oklahoma nineteen seventeen Jim Crow car. Oh dear so segregation apparently was the opposite of a city bus the for whatever reason the front of the train was less prestigious because it was behind the it was closer to his most. I guess you get cinders. Yeah so of the thirty two that died in this action. I believe Aleve only seven were white people it was. It was the the African American Indian American Indian native American passengers in the Jim Crow car. It's covering evernote basis. who were like the vast majority of the casualties? But since then I was getting high watermark for killing bill. ARS The newspapers. Yeah that was pretty much the last time that the dust bowl and then the you know the end of I guess cotton and then the end of rural early America and the end of registered sixty six shrunk. The town there was some. I think oil and gas activity there. But it's still you know. Population is much lower than it wasn't the beginning of the century. The nearby Big City is Sepulchre Oklahoma. which I have never super heard of popa is maybe the A character from stars episode on the Fan of Medicine But he's also the namesake of of this plausibly sized city. I don't know ten to twenty thousand people maybe but again really only on the national media map for one thing which has in two thousand eight. The Sepulchre Daily Herald did not print the results of the presidential election. Because because Barack Obama is a black man so they didn't they just left out. They looked at the residence of SUPPO- could go on believing that there wasn't president. George W Bush was president. The headline just read John McCain Wins Creek County and when asked later of course nobody at the Sepulchre Daily Herald said. Well it's because the president's Colored Fella now right. That's what they're thinking right now and they said they said well. We're a local paper so we just covered the local impact of the story. Now of course every previous election to support the daily Herald announced the winner. How how like how fantastic in a way that such a mindset exists that really kind of does hit him is the modern American Bubble like obviously Fox News is not going to have the same story. That's on CNN and NBC. All the time but in this case literally the presidential election did not have an Outcome in Creek County Oklahoma. It's part of this. Like contemporary sort of I wanNA I WANNA want to call it a a I want. I want to describe it in in partisan terms but the the sort of mentality that that people people have where they say almost like. Can you prove that crimes are illegal. This kind of bubble does work both both ways. I mean there's the famous Pauline Kale story about. I can't believe you know when Nixon wins the landslide McGovern. She says she can't believe you should know single person who voted for him right on the Upper West aside. I'm sure there's many nice things about Creek County Oklahoma. But it's not as you would expect a great skiing destination. I'm thinking King of Oklahoma on on an American a map of America. It'll it's it's in the lower middle. Yeah and the the the south. If there's a a part of America that has no ski resorts it would be south of you. You mentioned it's hard to get to skiing. It's hard to get to skin. That's it's it's it's a necessity a regional It's part of the culture and part of the terrain. What was funny is that Oklahoma is it's geographically in an interesting interesting place in the country because there is a little teeny part of the panhandle of Oklahoma touches Colorado Sir one of the Great Rocky Mountain Ski states dates in fact some might say in the top four Great Rocky Mountain ski stay? That's only the one that has the most John Denver songs about it and yet yet the part of Oklahoma that touches Colorado it touches the part of Colorado were. There is no skiing if you've ever flown into Denver. You realize you're still quite far from the mountains and you're you're halfway into Colorado at that point and the largest largest part of the Oklahoma border is with the state of Kansas famously aimlessly without scheme and their motto it is at Astra Per Aspera. That's Latin for without skiing so no. I'm surprised to find that there is any. I mean they're Oklahoma like a lot of states has quite a bit of role its ups right I but I but I I would. I don't think of it as a place with much elevation. I've done research here. The closest ski resort to northern northeastern. Oklahoma is in you will not. You'll be surprised at the state. It's in the great state of Iowa really really just across the river from Omaha Nebraska on Doc. Kind of the Bluffs Iowa Council Bluffs Iowa sure is a not very good call out crescent Iowa and you could get there from Kelley Ville Oklahoma in a mere seven hours if you wanted to drive to this kind of Little Bunny Hill on the banks of the What the Mississippi River I guess well well that wouldn't be the missile sippy that would be the Is it the Missouri there. What's what what separates Iowa from Nebraska Brassica what goes through Kansas City. They're the Platte River Missouri the Mississippi Missouri System System. I had the right river system. The Mississippi Larry branched off. If you if you think of the If you think of the bluffs there over the over the river there pretty substantial. But I don't compared to any place else near Omaha. Yes and Iowa has a lot of rolling hills surprising typography apostrophe there but again nothing I would look at it and think let's shook down those slopes well there's not a lot of powder crescent like a lot of these kind of borderline nine ski resorts and I don't mean borderline in terms of quality. I just mean in terms of latitude has to say men in terms of personality disorder. Yeah it doesn't care about your emotions It does not use hundred percent artificial snow most winters. It's Malcolm was founded in nineteen sixty one and it has. I don't know a single toe and then two or three right. Very unexciting slopes right. That's run by like somebody's old. A peterbilt motor. They started with a hand. Crank and it's got I read. I read some reviews and people are very enthusiastic but mostly because they took their kids to go to being or sledding or in the summer they went went to the ZIP line. That's fun if you actually went there to ski or snowboard you're likely to write a yelp review more like this one. My expectations from the outset were low for this place and yet they still still weren't low enough. This big parts of the world that are hours and hours away from skiing the continent of Africa for example right there. You could ski on Kilimanjaro. Pretty easily you could see all the way down. Probably run over the the Americans dentists this going up on on footer on jeeps or whatever There are a few ski resorts in the Atlas. Mountains of Morocco and whatever's next Morocco Rocco have crossed the Atlas Mountain Algiers Algeria. There you have the Western Sahara and there are. I don't think that far down. Those government government let alone a skiing structure but then meltzer renounced. Yeah no exciting. That's that's real snow skiing and then in the in south South Africa. There's some there's people who want to ski. And then some plumbing Lesotho highland how you know. It's I think it has the highest low point of any nation on earth. Okay it's so small and all of it is this upland plateau like nothing. There is below seven thousand feet or something I am in South Africa also like like a preppy everywhere are looking for another way to distinguish themselves. I mean you can play tennis and row the crew all day but at a certain point you're GonNa want you're going to want something that that takes 'em so you're looking for skiing. I mean if you're if you're a South African African like biff. What are you gonNa do but nothing between Morocco and South Africa literal entire continent? I don't know what that is for. How how far apart of those five thousand miles six thousand miles between maybe five thousand miles between Morocco and South Africa skiing unless you count the indoor hills of Egypt and then up into do do buy into the Arabian. The the the Big Mall in Dubai has has some kind of crazy indoor skiers although we should be we should be clear future links may be living in a world where the continent of Africa has collided. You did with Asia minor through some tectonic process and And they think of Dubai as being a city in Africa. Uh but in our time those were separate in our time the united the the biology of the United States were such that we got snow in about half the country. It may not be true in your era anymore right. They're thinking of skiing as a thing reserved for a few few people in the North Slope of Alaska in. And that's true true about skiing right. If you're from New England say you think of skiing as a convict birthright as you say it's expensive and inconvenient but but it's something you could take a weekend trip to do in all your friends are going to be doing if Velasco Colorado or northern California. If you live anywhere outside of New England you think of New England skiing as a form of punish. Yeah right if you grew up. It's the snow. Right is up issue and the wind the snow they have their. Let's be honest. Anyone listening to this program even distant distant future is thinking of Vermont New Hampshire skiing and going I explained or possible future octopuses who cannot afford eight skis. He's Why you WANNA ski on powder as opposed to New England goop well as someone who is a skier and grew up skiing in the North West? I am accustomed to what's called Pacific. Northwest Cement Yeah. We have that which is heavy heavy snow that is not light and fluffy but but pretty hard work to move around. It's just I feel like walking in mud kind of your it's hard on your ankles and your knees and and I mean to skin. It is fun. But it's it's better if it's been groomed which is to say like sort of flattened with machines to make a to make a kind of pact surface that you can make big carving turns in the powder at such as it is fun. It's fun to ski is because it goes who uh well powder in Utah and Wyoming and Montana and Colorado the snow it has a very different quality because the mountains are already so high right. I mean the mountain. I grew up skiing. Mt Elliott ESCA in Alaska the basis at sea level. So the so the snow is very wet But up in those high mountains that are what some of them are fourteen thousand feet high and and much further from any ocean would bring moisture right. The base of the mountain is already eight thousand feet so the snow that falls is really light and fluffy the crystals are just really big and so it combines to make this powder and really does act like powder and feel like powder so as you're skiing through it. The snow is just proofing around you. Almost in clouds of the super fluffy sight visual aesthetic magical or no the the. The snow is To Ski through it is to float. I see whereas in the West to ski through it is to work now on the East Coast The snow falls as ice lands on the on the hill. It's already ice and then it freezes even into a harder form of ice so that skiing on the east coast is really about chattering down the slope on it like basically just careening down on a on a just a sheet of of like dirty ice get Outta my way not stop this and it makes east coast skiers good. I mean they know how to the the ones that are good have to be pretty darn good. Because they're still alive because they yeah. They have to navigate navigate of a much more challenging conditions. I mean if you're born in Oklahoma you have no such birthright your expectation of skiing even Creston Iowa seven hours away the nearest Colorado Resorts are eleven or twelve hours. Drive away You can't do it for a for a weekend. No I mean you can mm initiate a cattle drive. which is something we couldn't do instead start cattle drive but in nineteen seventy? That was all about to change. A man named Willis Barrow and his wife were visiting her parents in. I'm going to set wrong Canola Oklahoma. It can't be Kanawha that sounds like a world war two battle COONAWARRA. Maybe I dunno Kona Wa sounds like a like like a a Thai restaurant. I'm sorry Teriyaki restaurant here in Seattle. I assume it is a native American word. I have no idea what it would mean. Let's Susumu he's visiting his his in laws there. He is a ski guy who I think. He's from Stover Mont so he grew up skiing again on off allies lice but he later moved to Big Bear became a ski instructor and Ski Area Manager in California and for seven years confusingly. The record says that he traveled the US and Canada as a member of the Austrian. Ski Team Right. I don't know why a guy named Willis bear would be on the Austrian ski team or is that just a thing like icecapades. You're you're called the Austrian Ski Team Tour America. No in fact. Austria produces the greatest skier. So why do they need. This guy named Willis from Vermont. Anyway he must have been good if you skiing for the Austrians and wall. He's apparently he had a lot of experience with artificial snow. I don't know if in one thousand nine seventy yes. There was a burgeoning technology. Then he's very relief for for that. Well they've been making artificial snow for for a while. But but nineteen seventy. My Freezer was making my grandparents freezer. Arthur not in the fifties. I think it was only I mean that technology only became really universal in the seventies and eighties. We made artificial snow at Mt Elliott. Now it's now it's a massive industry. Resorts are laying down a bed of artificial snow as soon as it gets cold before it even snowed naturally and because then they they've got that and benefits knows all the better. Yeah what you're trying to do with. The Ski Resort is establish a base of snow. And then throughout the year. You you can you know as snowfalls right you're maintaining teaming you're maintaining your base and that's the that's kind of a key lesson of politics you gotta maintain your base. I assume a lot of it is not just the the The the the chemical composition. It's more because you know it's just water for the most part. I soon as just a mechanical process of how you spray it. You know how you get the right texture. How how you spray it? On the hill there must be a lot of logistics and infrastructure. Involved in that's right and I assume he had some experience with that at big bear with you know northern California have needed artificial snow at at the time so years of experience artificial snow and he's obviously one of these guys who thinks this is the future and while he was visiting his parents Sorry his wife's parents big difference. It is and they shouldn't be the same people even Oklahoma home during this visit he got to talking with. His wife's parents started doing some math and he realized that although the the weather in Oklahoma is moderate that with artificial snow. You don't need to many freezing temperatures. He decided that if he just had ten nights where the temperatures drop below zero he could operate a ski resort for thirty days on artificial snow really. Once once temperatures interest fall below freezing it would only take eight hours with the system. He had in place for like eight hours to cover five acres with five inches of snow and and then if the temperature went up to thirty seven degrees he could maintain wouldn't be enough to melt. Yeah I guess that five inches gives them enough of base as that he can maintain and so all he needed was a suitably hilly spot and he felt like he had the snow making apparatus to run a ski resort in Oklahoma and of course northeastern Oklahoma is kind of hilly so he starts driving around in Chile. It's gotta be and it's got to be chilly so. He spends just months driving around northern Oklahoma checkout climate and terrain. He's only visiting his his in laws here. Is he deciding like this. He thinks maybe this is his big slight like he's he's been skiing since nineteen thirty eight. He's a veteran. You Know Oh you can't do that forever. He's moved into ski. Management Ski Instruction but this would be his business and there'd be no competitor he'd be getting on the ground floor of Oklahoma skiing. Hi No competitors for seven hours in every direction it's pretty brilliant move and this is not a populated area. There's blends is not not populated with with people with a known propensity towards Ski Weekend Right Right Right. So there's a couple of difficulties getting enough people and then convincing Oklahoma that they want to ski right. Maybe the idea is because there's nobody for seven hours around. You have a big radius right. Maybe he'll be drawing in Texans and Louisianans Arkansans wins and you know people from all over well. The other thing is that skiers tend to think that the appeal of skiing is self evident right like you don't need to convince people to to ski building. It's right there skiing. I think he may have overestimated that just because of his his personal blinders of of growing up and ski culture for decades. He thought if this was there of course everyone would want this because he comes from ski land right so he's gotta find a spot. He spends months searching for a spot in one week alone. He drives three thousand miles checking out different potential in Oklahoma. I mean he's obviously not in a straight line or he would leave Oklahoma. Sure he's driving around different towns back roads. I mean that's a long way to drive. That's every Rhode Thousand Miles. It's like a practical. He's making the little tiny turns and jogs. Yeah that number makes it look like. He is seeing a lot of rural Oklahoma and finally finally in Kelly Ville Oklahoma. He finds a likely looking hill. I mean it's a it's a cow pasture and it would have to be cleared of all the trees and brush but he can kind of see. There's the area we can. We can grade parking. Those of the trees we cut down. We can put a tow rope here. And so he leases seven acres from local rancher smart. He didn't buy it right so he's not. He doesn't have the blinders on but he thinks he's got three. Eh slopes there and this is not far from Tulsa. We should say right. It's it's it's close to a big town. There are big cities. You could draw people from now today. I assume a lot of these midwestern cities are maybe full of not full of but have quite a few transplanted coastal folks therefore work. Americans are more for Mobile. Today they changed jobs more often. Now let me get angry. Letters from future links at at at characterizing Tulsa Oklahoma's mid western city. You think the Midwest ends up the Kansas Oklahoma border I do. I'm almost one of those people that would that would argue that. The prairie states aren't part of the Mid West. But I'm no I'm your mid West is Ohio. Kind of go certainly is Ohio. What's the center of the Midwest you? I'm going to say that the mid West is as Ohio's Indiana brought the center. She'll go I would say Chicago's the center of the Midwest. Would you call Kentucky part of the Midwest absolutely not but concession. You would say okay. I think we've done this before the fact that I think of. Kansas is the quintessential Midwest. And maybe that's just wizard of Oz. Asphalt right makes me want to give Oklahoma or at least the least Texan parts of Oklahoma by but there are people in Iowa that are going to say that Iowa is a prairie state. Not a midwestern state are we is it on controversial Senate Oklahoma's a prairie state or is a two five. Oklahoma would be a prairie state. Because it's true that wants Mata southern once we get into the Texas panhandle or even northeast. Texas I don't think that is the Midwest whatever. The line is to meet somewhere in Oklahoma New Mexico. It was a southwestern state yes western Texas the southwest. But are you going to put Oklahoma as a southwestern state no no time it was. Oklahoma is a cowboy state which to me says prairie but but maybe prairie isn't a region. I think it should be. I think prairie should be region anyway today the prairie region. Okay let's call. Let's call and other other parts of what the coastal folks would say or Flyover America. The big cities of of non coastal. America are full of transplant. Who liked the lower house pros prices and have found a job? They're a Nike. Seventy less mobility future links are going to call all this the platte see guys giant ocean. That'll be a nice break for that after the dust bowl it'll be it'll be more trucks and he's headed to California but but they'll be all wet will be party barges so so you're suggesting that there are people win. Oklahoma who have who have some kind of like the digital memory of schemes and many fewer in one thousand nine hundred seventy well and the thing is mobility ability tends to work the other way people from Oklahoma go to San Francisco to let their freak flag. Well I mean that totally outnumbers them. But I'm just saying there's probably probably more people movie the media there's more people moving to these regional cities today than there were back. Then people moved less than right. That's right you'd get a job with whatever in Chicago and stay there your whole life. You'd get a job at Diet. Dr Pepper Inc Company. They spun off their diet to its its own. And so the Willow Sparrow. His wife have big dreams. They're gonNA open for the winter of Nineteen seventy-one They're going to have to offer. Instruction there's going to be rentals because obviously Oklahoma Zone on their skis. But that's a lot of infrastructure to import and bill. It really really is he wants to have a slide. He wants to have a kind of a small shallow. What he calls a Huddle House? Is that a skiing term. That's what the article says. Maybe he wants to have any quote huddle house where people can relax around a fire up risky but we do use the term house to describe ski lodges like we had one called the roundhouse which was round. Is there less huddling. We did a lot although you WANNA huddle with a lodge daylight. Ski Lodge is what we call them. Dan Lodge Judge Soul and he's and he's he's got sinus bragging about how there's going to be there you know there's a slow three hundred foot five hundred foot tower. Oh seven hundred fifty foot tall. These seem that long to me as a non skier. No I mean the Bunny hills and you spend much time on the rope as you do on the slope. Is that not a skiing saying. I've never heard that before but I like it feels like it applies across a whole lot of different our around the rope a second on the slope and in fact Snow Valley does open outside Kelly Ville in in the winter of nineteen seventy-one but almost immediately runs into problems as you might expect Didn't have to do with Watergate. The winter is too warm. And I'll do the water water. The winner is to warm booze winner of nineteen. seventy-one doesn't get the freezing nights he needs when he tries to make artificial snow it also find it turns out that northeastern Oklahoma Very Windy. You've alluded to this about New England. it's much windier than what he's used to and as a result all his math about how the snow will scatter is wrong and it. All lands ends in a in a farmer's field. The snow blows away from where the slopes lands on somebody else's land. The wind doesn't blow glow in Oklahoma. It's just that Kansas Suck. There's finally one he finally does get one toe gone on one little slope. The problem is nobody can ski. He's attracting all these people who were like. What a fun lark and renting the gear? And then and he's also selling them splints and crutches. And that's exactly what happens people crash into the concession stand. People crashed into the outhouse knocking it over Many people crash into the the barb wire fence at the bottom of the slip which I don't. I'm not a skier but I don't think that's what you know what we typically do. But he released this from a CAL's so far that's exactly what it is converted pasture and we should probably do a barbed wire entry at some point fascinating. The history of our wires amazing. But it's also it's very important to that part of the country so when people crashed into the barbed wire they can't cut the barbed wire. That's that's farmer Brown. His cows are going to get out so with the cattle in mind. They're just cutting up people's ski jackets. Oh and those are expensive. Cut Not People's Expensive L.. Beam gear. Maybe that's not what they haven't applied wouldn't have had L. O. B. But yeah to get them out of to get them out of the barbed wire so it's a disaster and within a day or two a nearby neighbor her apparently just T- wasn't Watergate it was Vietnam a neighbor just home from the war complains about the noise of people screaming taught in the wire. Get me out of here no I I guess we can assume that the skiers are yelling and noisy. It reminds him of Charlie no fortunates maybe he's got PTSD. Of course we know now everyone from Vietnam had ptsd and he complains to local authorities and there is a noise ordinance and that's finally thing shuts down snow. Valley is one broken vet but it wasn't going well anyway after how long. How long was the run in two to three days? Oklahoma had skiing for two three days in the winter of nineteen. Seventy one and people still talk about this day the the Did he dismantle all of the the huddle houses and and the rope tow from the description of the concession stands out houses that can be knocked over by a single skier. I Yeah I think it was probably pretty flimsy. Anyway it was like the train cars of the region today. If you go there the you know the brush and the trees have grown back on the hills you can still see the flat area. That was great for the parking lot. But there's really almost no sign left of the three days of unhappy painful skiing. It is there any record of how many people actually bought a lift ticket during the during the three day run. I would love to know how many people were. There was it. Fifty was it. 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Episode 12 with Sandi Benks from LoveRanch

BunnyRanch Podcast

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Episode 12 with Sandi Benks from LoveRanch

"It's Daddy D if it ain't going down at the bunny ranch it ain't going down at all stolen welcome back everyone to another episode of the Bunny Ranch Podcast I am your host Alex little illegal sex that's north one of our sister locations well lovely amazing Cindy you everyone I'm sandy banks Oh my gosh how are you winter came overnight Oh my God it's seriously went from eighty ninety two sixty three I'm at night and snow on the doing today I'm a happy girl I've had a mellow Dane it's raining it's which is super romantic and sweet and it feels like school's back and it's time for Halloween the ranch and I'm like what's going on like I'm bored I WANNA go fan right yeah it's hard to be away but it's good to refresh for me I was my anniversary one year at love ranch and I I did two weeks towards two weeks on two weeks off a year straight around northern California so we didn't get a lot of snow Valley and UH I don't know I didn't think I would like it because I don't like to be cold and I don't like to be and they want to be at home and really focus on that yeah I've been self employed for over ten years yes there you go into this I was like Oh is magical and remarkable kitchen is cool don't get me wrong it's like a car it to strike a beautiful thing that you need in life but what we do is to me like there's all these different details package together yeah and then you say okay here's my plan designed this amazing thing for you and I want to execute it yeah it's at work life balance it's about finding what works for you and that's one of the beauties of this is that everybody has that freedom they're scheduled to figure out when they want to be here this is fun because I'm just telling me I'm not selling some other meeting I'm not selling something for someone else I used to do kitchen remodel that is amazing sometimes I'd add extra week if it was going good you know like I don't WanNa leave I don't yeah out there away from them sheriff and this'll be my second winter I'll guess how long have you been with us now year old in early August I was like I'm going to hate the snow but I learned how to bundle up and I think being at the ranch it's a coziness to it in the winter the fireplaces versus make sure I hit everything right I can definitely appreciate the severity so the transfer was like oh except I get to sell something that so it similar so that was what what was that like kitchen remodeling it was very similar to put in like a a big date together where you now. I haven't it's one of those things that for me I am a true introvert in the sense that I do prefer to email people and I just thought so comfortable with that I ant like what do you want what are we looking at here and then it's like what is the main event like what's your stove going to be counter top and then what kind of tyler are we going to do that. I like I like my eighteen but at the same time I've been thinking about like maybe one day just for like one day just for fun like go back to your roots tunes it is no joke can't smell September we have snow this is too it's too much it's pretty though I didn't grow up with snow cities personalities I've been to I was really impressed without around here and I also speaking of the lineup it's like in basketball ooh little little dynamo there and she contrasts so well with Kiara who's six foot tall Blonde Amazon like I would love to see that lineup gene so I always love that fall by it's true I'm leaning into it I got my sweater on on my only can do that yeah yes it's like you like beyond words you can't even describe it I was just about to say how would you describe it as you say I can't really describe my favorite ineffable yes it's you think about it every once in a while like I'll be sitting at tea party and I'll hear the Bombay like oh like I go back and but you know impossible because it's always different I refer to us as sex fireman or fire women fire out and you never know when it's going to show up sh like you're gonna I think everyone should come and go to a brothel like yellow every I know like especially if you're near Nevada just drive over here and walk indoors it's it's yeah it's different in that's what I like most about it is that it's so experiential that every individual gets to have that personal they literally Jaws Flora law sweetest thing the reaction or like how are they going to handle an each different every day every hour you never know who's we can't talk I see you I see you in how we have to portray ourselves with that standardization of the lineup like we still have to as a kid I would think there's these beautiful goddesses in they're doing and it's so amazing that they have to put them out in the middle of the desert behind barbed wire our own towards us but back then you know I mean that was a while ago because I've said on livestream law I'm no spring chicken and it's been around and I've watched these ranches grow from so objectified and strain I'm like no it's not it's like Bam like you feel like a queen you're just like Jesse right I'm like there's word ugly whoa like coming out of a pool even ninety degrees I'm like like I just say that I totally raise it's like so and you know what's the worst thing that's going to happen no you might have fun oh as a child though I grew up coming over here and seeing ranches and just being I was like there's magic happens in there being on the outskirts of society being on the underground being away from the norm the mainstream unique yeah and just diving into it and being like I'm just going to show up you're into and they come into a brothel no matter which location they go to and we I mean God we have four of them literally stone's throw away from each other so it's one of those things give about a lineup no it's one of those things that like I'm by appointment only now so I usually don't pretend I do I never just run in there and are you get to pick up on the different energy live it's so much fun I love it they have their different themes in the girls have their different rooms I mean when you break it down it's so protected and like just hearing much to handle for the city life and they're gonNA hide us out here you know it's on the planet where quite literally everyone is accepted shade size I mean we will discriminate based off of age you have to be eighteen or older I mean there is when the players come out does anyone think that's objectify now when all those they run out and they like to do their little thing and you're like well that's what I feel like in lineup like they're cheering us on it is a lot of fun and that's one of the fun things to think at really all of the locations is just the variety in terms of who we have looked sanders no different than showing him to Gig I got my gear loaded in okay what kind of performing Dado I was a singer Punk Goth Band I love you to be part of this crew that I don't even know you know but they're like so accepting it is it is it is probably one of the most loving nurturing caring environment the bell's going to ring you gotta run out and go put that fire out I like I like that analogy that's kio love the sportsmanship with it the lineup there is like the line into this space knowing about these places what was what was it like for you. I imagine it was pretty unique it was fun I was shaking really bad but I've been a performer so I was like this is I do and I really wanted to go on this roller coaster with what's happening with sex work especially after being in a punk rock band because it's the same kind of it's just to see you standing next to tr would be awesome it is hilarious Wrigley Remmy 'cause I talked to me about it and Oh cute and then I finally was like forget this I've been in sales for twenty years I'm just GonNa do my sales pitch but then I'm going to like get that sheet in those towels you went all over the states like a man but here I these amazing women coming to me every time I come to tour I'm like who's new every morning for all all these girls you know I love the liberation the open mindedness I don't have to feel like I need to not be me yeah which is interesting so great okay let's every ten years yeah yeah it's an identity issue but I gave up on it whatever you know I'm me I have my face I'm GonNa do you are amazing I love you and I'm GonNa figure out which condom fits this it's like the Cinderella's slipper distance and now I work here and it's like everyone should walk in here it's the friendliest place on the planet there's no reason why you should be afraid of brothel okay so walk me through your first day like with condoms yeah and I've done lots of crazy sexual stuff in my life already so it wasn't like that was scary to me I've done you know sex clubs happy with me because she's you know yes remmy as one of our coworkers at the Bunny ranch stands what four foot eleven it's rare we have a communication issue now in society where we're we have these frigging cell phones and tablets and we all have these little shields in front of our faces and it's so dumb and he that it's not clinical that is very organic and usual you mean it's not up of missionary in them ric law Mike other than that no no judgement is just such a good was great and I felt that way with the punk scene in California soon and this I was it's like even the girls getting girls at come through all over the country girls come from different states. I've learned as a band we they knew so what have you learned about yourself through this job mostly I guess it's a place to discover yourself indus whole new amazing white rarely yeah I like hearing what the deeper things and people and I I like they've learned that I'm better at teaching than I thought it was thought I wasn't patient enough and but I didn't yeah yeah it's it's interesting 'cause I wasn't expecting this in my life at all but I was out of stage where I was like I need to learn I just more there's no frustration or any of that it's like I found my calling yes I don't have that feeling of like this is threesomes with guys and girls in orgies at the rock and roll lifestyle porn I was like do I do porn or do I do brothel what language are needed to teach yes and I guess probably similar thing like explain that a little bit more like the language of intimacy in considering the in this career you have to put a bit of performance into your work but I am just me is so hard for me to not be me burke and then I was like I like the brothel work because of the privacy we are like secret agents we kind of are the pain into this it's whatever kind of party you're looking for if you're looking to be introverted and quiet and calm start with the massage that's absolutely a viable worker at the world famous Moonlite Bunny ranch located in Carson City Nevada this week I have an awesome guest joining us from the love rain what is your experience can be here when you walk in the door could be that you wanted to buy a t-shirt and then I gave you a massage and then now you're my lover you know so if you would have seen me my first week it was really funny because I was trying to do like this whole like oh I got this whole new characters all my trying to happen no one ever knows I exist like why is that not refreshing Kinda fun in a world where everything is boom in your face social media television like it's just everywhere it's like here you actually get you go and you have this very sincere genuine experience with a real human being like you don't get that that often reviews for it and now offensive any of my past clients this that we're paying because paintings a very tedious thing and there it is is to do a lot of like construction stuff where I would deal with clients where I had to explain to them why I had to do this process to fix in order to build some yeah but at the same time if you WANNA turn the energy upgrade a few ladies kind of pop a couple bottles of champagne also completely valid yeah and I think thing and I wouldn't have the patience for that would be like I don't know how I'm the contract to us why you hired me so just trust me this is the way this goes like I didn't have that I'm not a I'm a girl which is kind of a problem you know 'cause I'm just like okay that sounds fun to actually have done that in there like plea wearing and tearing is actually very fulfilling it's like a click I'm so grateful for everyone I'm like Oh my God who is a party it happens it happened more than I thought it would be very transformative once you get into that space and you get comfortable you to let go of your and additions and your judgments and it just more like I can turn it into a museum tour I can turn it into bound chick Abou- outdoor you know different deal for sure yeah and you know how to read it and Dr and the rugged rugged Derek and I looked at the very edge of Carson City Nevada with great Internet not so rural out here anymore but the city's kind the secret keepers of society we're spies in the house of love you know thing would love ranch like I'm a spy in the house of blood like you can come see me where do you want to get to know yeah yeah and it's the same with anyone who walks in the door. I love giving tours of the ranch it's not to me it's call it a party for a reason it is it's such a unique word a lot of people questioned party why a party and it's like yeah absolutely we can bring sham take the and the and the people were going to say this and this so I was acting they've got like a magnifying yeah yeah so now with this I feel like A. B. Individuals within almost like a militant look you know it is kind of sexy guys were like like window it's interesting too because you have like you were saying the the lineup and the email if you email me we can discuss all that so you're not surprising me when you show up I'm not I only have this amount of time to figure out what you want if you email me I have a week or even or even a few days to just say all right is that a lot of the fantasies are oftentimes a bit more complicated and requires special preparations and you also have to make sure that realistic like wild the primal like that bills and bills and bills to where you're like Oh my God we're doing this now like now we're getting down one thing that surprised me just entirely with his job that I liked law is that men and women are so uber effect Schnitt and wonderful means like we're so cuddly sweet we're like little panda bears like I just WanNa be so close and then there's this whole other side animals then you pick a lady and then you take a tour it's it gives you that yes but instead it's a a more detailed personal fashion so we can just sit down and unlike oftentimes by the time people actually make it through the doors like their energy is just so intense and they're like yeah let's go yeah and if you have a week or two zor you know I like that too it's like what kind of surprises do you enjoy let's see that's a good question because I'm a little uh hard to read I'll like one thing one day and mom Turkey tricky surprises what C- All of you were doing this right now the emails gentlemen for the love of Christ it is a okay to just tell us being towards the location or like yeah ooh I'm doing something new excitement the energy it starts to build right that's how I feel when people come in I'm like oh I kind of feel like we're just on a date because you slipping your number at the grocery store you know I want it to feel like that aw describe me what do you think the problems probably there's there's probably some neon lights kind let me just let me stop it. I love an appointment but I love spontaneous man it's just like I'm gonNA walk in that because I'd be like again I would be like I'm going in there I'm getting my girl GonNa tell her I'm going to surprise finally got the nerve and I came and I met you it took me like a few weeks like he'd seen me on the website and he just drove and met me which I like that to some you're able to communicate and get you the type of experience you're genuinely looking for because oftentimes what I've certainly found it I'm sure you have to give us the gamut of what you want in a range so we can say well let's start with this and then we'll go with that you know and then here it's kind of like walking in the door you walk in the door you say yes I WanNa light up it is you're looking for you were going to offend us you're not going to shock us you're going to scare us if anything you're going to make it that much easier industry like what are some of the more humorous experiences you've gotten have over the year well I do you were talking about surprises and I've been lucky enough to have some people in my life who they like to bring me surprises during our date someone with right there because when you come in the first thing is it's light you're able to see the ladies they're lining up for either not neon lights like there's a spot email build that up there's really fun things you can do with it get to know each other as if you didn't swap numbers at the grocery store because you started cracks a joke you know we need to the table if you email I means those escorting that goes along and so you have something to think about like oh I'm GonNa go meet Sandy this weekend I had someone come in and that was like act men though I wanna go take me and just saying they do have costume rental shops that you can get hooked up in Virginia City and then go spend the day and costume emme and he had sandy on one side and remmy on the other but it wasn't the surnames he made us it looked like us things like that and then the probably the most fun is in the kitchen at the ranch. I could talk about you know it's kind of awesome I actually had a I have a big black beautiful cowboy hat that I get to wear to Virginia City shut up that's alright attention to detail bonus points right there and he blew my mind there's a lot of creativity that that goes into awesome holy crap he doesn't say anything the City Oh Virginia City is so much fun it's GonNa be crazy I mean Virginia cities always wild there's so many fun things about this job kind of trapped ourselves into this zone and this lifestyle for this period of time and we all have to go with the flow of this ship and the waves that it brings yes no I mean looking at it from the outside in you have this certain idea in when I tell people closure is described to me late if anything highlighting the girls either personality is the time they took to prepare for the day and it's completely different and it's like oh we thought was a permanent but temporary sandy tattoo I can then we had to girl party with all of the experiences I've had in the bedroom but just the group of girls that we have in the kitchen sometimes holy crap that is a riot in the middle of like a feeding frenzy you don't it is kind of like Disneyland took over here over here she'll go over here you know you don't really know where to direct your attention at first so so you know I love that part and everyone has that natural drive for it so I really liked that I didn't realize that it would be so it's funny to his work intimate aid because I find out most people like to laugh when they're having orgasms including myself you know especially depending on where I am and in what situation I'm having orgasm sure but he's like in the down the stairs with big skirts on Oh my God that would be really cute I'm not I'm not mad at that police smoking now now it's not really smoky probably googling now there's no gambling old west saloon there's GonNa be eleven if there was a Virginia city where we all dress like that and just showed up junior city and walk in his hand like a fun little photos it's the journey yeah I it's it's a journey that's very much so what it is it's like you get to come in his inexperienced from the moment you really like start derived Um and then together we all have just the ladies I meet are just so funny like I've never met women with a sense of humor like I can only laugh about this to you know it's not that it's it's intense so laughter is really healing the whole thing it's one of those things where it's the same with Bdo Samuel there's fun there's dumb yes so it's all about being smart communication and then making sure you have through it and giggle like especially yeah I don't know why you wouldn't bring this into your life it's so joyful it's a celebration of what makes us human I mean we're one of the only animals hey it's it's mindset when you approach things with the right mindset with the right person the educational space to like have that be okay oh put it on their own there's always this like snack attack where we all like for whatever reason we get riled up right trout like four o'clock here's all start like eating and we're chatting we're laugh lose you know it just kind of sheds off of you. I love the way people float out of the ranch almost like they're on a hover board. I Talk Dot Com grabbing yeah it looks like you're a grower guess we're getting the Magnum like it's fun there's so much fun with sex and a- and usually it goes something along the lines of like a whole bunch of ridiculous now hearing what was it gene and it's just you feel kind of like what I call it is like we're on a pirate ship sailing the seas of sex in the middle of the desert because we really do he just came back it's true though I wanNA reason we're that big skirt okay but on the weekends in Virginia City they totally do we need sally the restaurant Yeah that's not real sorry that's not real people ask me if I'm okay every once in a while because I whimper what I do and it drives me crazy it's bad for business that I can't tell people what I do it's bad for me that I have to not be honest with the people in my life that I love real and that's one of the things we were talking about that I did want to bring up was the whole like you said it coming out of the armour like I can't tell people go you know it's like this whole Winder up kind of thing it is it cracks me up when guys have this perceived notion of what a female orgasm looks like you're joking earlier but like the perfect fit with the condominium that's actually a thing though and that can be really uncomfortable for people being like oh I don't know what condoms size Ooh eee watch out just like rubber that happened I love and it makes me giggle because I'm like we're doing good word they are though we are in it's just it's healing it's enjoyable pleasurable and it's just a part of the human experience for those that choose to bring this into their lives the planet that has sex for fun right why in the hell are we getting also caught up with morality here like no guys our bodies feel good for over very much so aware of that we've been around as a company for years upon years it's something that is so valuable the every single one like you can't have a sense of humor with this job teach it's just like Oh really oh and all my gosh she has forgotten where the yard is like Oh man with tight shoulders and they can l. show you a picture of it I have an animal sex is right now in New York and they had this whole huge thing on animals and they're all in terms of client confidentiality lock everything down where secure for Lonzo devices are computers I mean even our emails in Europe did like very yeah come out of my house can I please come out now because I I was even thinking something like this would be a great way that maybe I could present it to people that I'm ready to say like Oh hey will for both the ladies as well as our guests here that at the end of the day it's up to you if you want to come out of the are more or not yeah you have to feel safe and the playfulness mall around it's just I D- can't find anything other than maybe being on like a professional sports team that would feel like this hi there I'm like Oh my God and then we're like Oh my God and there we are soldiers were like are you serious but you know there's I like it heightens your endorphins almost as the mind body connected means you're in that space you're feeling it and you're like yeah and it's like can find me on twitter at the Alice little or on Instagram at the Alice little official additionally be sure to follow us on Instagram at Man and then you find there are a lot of animals and they don't tell you how much fun they have having sex life of hedgehogs it left a sixty-nine like for real any ranch as well as at Bunny ranch on twitter thanks so much for listening make sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode and also don't forget to check out the video version of this available now on a youtube by everyone anti banks at love ranch dot net and I'm sandy with an eye and banks within E and I'm on twitter at Sandy banks yes and I am ls little positions and we all are really good at them yes it's true talking of physicians people get a hold of you to explore positions with Yale okay my email is about that part of it kind of is like who wind can I come out you know can I please come out of my bedroom like or are more clash okay that is kind of amazing all right see and you thought that sex workers weren't smart but types Ooh Long my dad would be like I think it'd be like maybe two supportive or like to like that's so great fun greg period and I'd be like your dad wants can keep you my duty to seek that saw yeah I think that's the the fun part about this job for me is even if as a as a person who works here if I came out in social media I'm here that doesn't mean that you still have a discrete experience with absolutely in my sex life yeah yeah it's like one of those things are my family knows what I do but at the same time I'm so grateful for the fact that we there are certain conversations boundaries that we choose not to have for example they don't ask certain intimate questions as much they simply how are you oh I did this interview with Alice and I really want to do what we do here and this is a great example of it it is though it's GonNa my mom would love you like let's go detailed questions about what you know confidentiality scree and it's I always joke that we almost voluntarily follow the hippo protocol the stigma around it has put a lot of pressure on me and anxiety in my first year of doing this yeah I'm a lot better now on figured it out and people don't talk what do you want tell why did you email me really email is usually never the real thing come let me talk about that let's talk about the same with anyway. I'm I'm a voice for my community I'm an advocate I'm all over the place at the end of the day if you and I are tucked up in Virginia City yeah it's like you feel like that like you like taking a super bowl quarterback and like I'm the tight end like Dr Link Are you well I- beer so happy for you and it same as military athough you know if you went and did a tour overseas in the military you're not gonna come back and have someone that made a noise like hurt but I'm like oh no I didn't know this was on that point doing a really good job sites like I'm.

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Los Angeles Times 11/10/20

L.A. Times Morning Briefing

03:40 min | 11 months ago

Los Angeles Times 11/10/20

"It's tuesday november tenth. I'm kyle sour offer. And here's your local news from the los angeles times presented by the salvation army in a year with fewer red. Kettles help rescue christmas for the most vulnerable to give ask your smart speaker to make a donation to the salvation army or donate salvation army. Usa dot org today will be mostly sunny and cool with a high of sixty seven and a low tonight. A forty eight our top story. Coronal virus cases are surging in la county again and that's prompting renewed alarm from health officials. They're calling for residents to redouble their efforts to protect against the spread of the virus officials urge angelenos to wear masks in public maintain physical distance from people. You don't live with wash your hands regularly and avoid gatherings any backsliding from these practices. They say could put residents health at risk and jeopardize the county's ability to further reopen businesses. Meanwhile during the seven day period that ended sunday. La county reported more than thirteen thousand cases as the highest number of weekly cases more than two months in education about two thousand los angeles county public school. Children return to classrooms yesterday. For example loss. Virgina says small district in calabasas area. Real campuses to transitional kindergarten through second grade classrooms under county approved waivers. As of yesterday the county public health department has granted waivers to seventy four elementary schools. Most of them private schools los angeles unified. The nation's second largest school system has not applied for reopening waivers. The district is instead building effort to provide one on one tutoring and small group instruction for students with special needs in business news with ski resorts planning to open soon. The season's first big snowfall has dusted california's mountains. Mammoth mountain which is tentatively planning to open on. Saturday gained a foot of fresh snow. In the san bernardino mountains. Snow valley mountain resort reported ten to twelve inches of snow between saturday and sunday mornings. A spokesman said the resort will resume snow making as soon as humidity drops. The resort has not yet set an opening date in the meantime twelve to eighteen inches of snow. Fell at big bear mountain resort. Snow summit and bear mountain resort said to expect an opening day announcement. Soon in the lake. Tahoe area resorts tentatively planned to open for the season on november twenty fifth in other news. Rock climber emily harrington became the first woman to free climb the golden gate route on the face of yosemite l. Capi ten in a single day harrington scaled that three thousand foot granite wall on wednesday reaching the top in twenty one hours thirteen minutes and fifty one seconds. Only three other people have made the free climb on the route in a day. Free climbers use ropes in case they fall but not to sent when harrington reached one of the routes most difficult sections her foot slipped and she fell sideways hitting your head on the granite wall after bandaging her wound and taking an hour. Long rest she continued to the top and finally entrance fees a national parks and forests will be waived for one day. Tomorrow in honor of veteran's day that means you can skip the thirty five dollar fee to visit yosemite and a thirty dollar fee at valley also starting tomorrow. Us military veterans and gold star families may receive a lifetime. America the beautiful pass to national parks. Farce wildlife refuges preserves and other federal lands according to a department of the interior news. Release the action is a recognition. The sacrifices made by military members and their families for these stories and more visit l. a. times dot com.

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Holiday films we love (and love to hate)

The Current

13:52 min | 1 year ago

Holiday films we love (and love to hate)

"How do you take down criminal network hidden in the shadows? I tell him that. I know that they're the ones who are running the largest child abuse website on the dark net the journalists working to expose the darkest corners of the Internet. That's your playroom for that's your baby's clothes. That's my house. The police ace who hunt down online predators. The environment. They're using no we didn't we didn't make it. They made it hunting. MOORHEAD subscribe wherever you get at your podcasts. This is a CBC DC podcast. Hi I'm Laura Lynch this podcast from the November twenty ninth edition of the current butcher is in the next week. I just tailby show. The price took hanging in Kentucky. The big book is one is because you nothing says holidays like food and films sometimes the to meet like Alastair Sim and that prize is bird in a Christmas Carol. There is food in Christmas films. There are Christmas. Treats that get eaten while watching your holiday favorites. Some movies arrest traditional at the ten kilo. Turkey others triclean sweet as a tub of rum raisin ice cream we thought we draw out that metaphor and as December approaches. Take a culinary retool tour of the season's most beloved and maybe not so loved Pictures Guy Does Die Golden is here. She is a film critic with deer cast and crew dot com. And she's in in our Ottawa Studio. Hello Hi Laura. Hi What what makes you think. Holiday movies are a bit like festive food. I've always found food. Metaphors are helpful in describing film right because people have strong opinions of both so. Let's look at it this way. Sometimes you're looking forward to a movie premiere. You know the new star Star Wars Film. The new avengers film. That's like going out to a fancy dinner. You don't do it all the time. So it's special and then sometimes there's an important film you know. Oh you need to watch. Everyone keeps telling you how capital is important it is. You're not sure you'll enjoy it but you know you should try it and it'll probably be good for you. That's Kale Tale. Well for me you know but with holiday and festive films. They are like holiday treats because they're special in you only really get to consume the once a year you look forward to them for eleven months and that's where they hold such a special place in your heart. It's like grandma's gingerbread cookies or home alone. I mean insure you you can. You can eat them. You can consume them in July. But it's just not the same. Okay well okay let. Let's stay on the team and I guess we'll start with the appetizer isn't isn't there. Anyone who knows what. Christmas is all about. Charlie Brown I can Kelly with Christmas about lines please in their word same Confucian abiding in the field keeping watch over their flocks by night low English Lord came upon them. That is the one thousand nine hundred five classic attorney Bone Christmas. How is that in your mind an appetizer? Well these films like the Charlie Brown Christmas story. It's it's pure Austalia right. I mean these are films. Most of US grew up watching on TV. Then we pass them on to our kids and so on films like The grinch who stole Bill Christmas you know the Rankin and Bass films a stop motion animation. The frosty the Snowman Rudolph the red nosed reindeer. They're all under an hour. They're easily digestible. estimable Bouch for the soul if you will but at the very top of that list for me anyway. As always Charlie Brown's Christmas I mean the music alone is enough to get you in the festive mood. That Vince girl trio. That's my favorite. Christmas is a sure takes me back just hearing that absolutely all right then. Let's Talk Comfort food food. Would you please tell her that. You're not really Santa Claus that there actually is no such person. I'm sorry to disagree with you. Mrs Walk but not only uses. This is such a person but here I am to prove it. No no no you misunderstand I want you to tell you the truth What's your name strangle? What is it about movies like miracle on thirty Fourth Street that remind you of comfort food? Well these are the classics right. You Know Miracle Holiday Inn. So wonderful life the bishops wife so these are like mom's secret recipe. There's something she puts in there. That makes you feel safe. It feels like home could be Mac and cheese. You know her homemade stuffing green bean gene casserole. It's the stuff that's been passed down for years. You've tried to make it yourself. Just isn't the same kind of the remakes of these classes. And I think the thing thing about these postwar Christmas films is that the people who made them and starred in them. I mean they sacrifice so much frank capra the director of It's a wonderful life right He. He directed a series of films for the Army Jimmy Stewart serves in the air force. You've got Marino. Hera Donna Reed they all entertain troops and the the audience. They made them for sacrifice so much so when the war was over you get a real sense from these films that their themes in of believing in kindness. The the true value of a person isn't money but who they love and the people who love them. It's the kind of sincerety but that might seem a little hokey now but it was genuine and and it really does resume to this day. Okay so the you know that there have been attempts to update these movies. Yes what do you think of those. Are they comforting. Well you know what like I said it. It's like you can make mashed potatoes with olive oil. Sure but we all know they taste better with cream and butter. I mean sorry Vegans but it I mean. Let's let's be honest. I mean the remakes are great. And if it's going to introduce somebody that may be not interested in watching the original and then they'll see the remake and then want to go back and watch the original. I'm all for it. I mean the originals are going anywhere die. I'm going to try something else. Here is a genre that is all to itself self talking about bulldozing Snow Valley to the ground and that includes his valley campaign Christmas. I can't support you tearing down Snow Valley. It's not just about boys and sales it's about and all of us and a gift talk altogether one place that goes to town on Christmas movies. It's hallmark that one's called. Let it snow but there there are so many of them To me this is like junk food but this experience like for you. I was just GonNa say I think I have a sugar coma. Just listening to that clip. Have you watched watched them. Have you tried. Yeah well there. There are days when I come back off work here earlier in the day and I'm really tired and I flipped it on. Yeah I stayed on the channel for. I'm admitting it. Yeah absolutely you know. And and these films have become a bona fide phenomenon in the last few years right. I mean lifetime and hallmark. They kind of cornered the market on this genre but Netflix has started getting into the game in the last couple of years and they're enjoyable because they're predictable and ridiculous ridiculous equitable. I don't know we can. We can figure out a port Monta later fifty to watch them. Say Okay. I know what's coming next. And there's a comfort in that predictability right and they typically involved for some reason. There's a young single woman. She lives in the Big City and she ends up being left and in New England from some long lost relative. And it's always two weeks before Christmas now. Our life is turned upside down and she literally runs into a honky yet unavailable Christmas tree farmer or something I mean it's it's preposterous. But you know these films have become so popular. You can buy shirts that say all I want for. Christmas is wine and hallmark movie and for some people that are group viewing tradition. Right you can get together with your friends can have a few snacks. He can chat a bit. You don't really have to pay attention. You can play the drinking game right. Louis predictable moment comes. Have you heard about the I love you well I. I've heard a little bit about them. Tell me more is crazy. And there's also downloadable Bingo cards right so you know take a drink or or or Dab your blood or when when a lead child star from the nineties is in that lake the one we just heard I think that was candace Cameron Beret. Yep A precocious child tries to bring the two leads together and the two leads despise each other when they first meet the lead character. or or the town has a Christmassy name There's always ice skating you know. The snow is noticeably fake. The leads kiss under the mistletoe. I mean on on and on but it look these movies and their fans know exactly what they are. It's the same thing with you going home after you know after working his shift. Do you want to put something on. You don't have to think too hard about it. It's like eating a whole whole tray of brownies or a tub of ice cream. Yeah there's no substance to it. They aren't good for you but you know what they make you feel good all right. Why we indulge once a year right? Are you ready. Because we're really going to change gears now. Something very different from Christmas Eve. L. A. Foreign Policy. What Mommy taught at New York Cop John Maclean to see his wife Dan instead? He's going to save her die. Hard with Bruce Willis. That's not your your standard during Christmas Fair but is it still a Christmas movie. Well Yeah I would call a film like that. A non traditional or left of center Christmas film and usually it becomes part of a repertoire because someone introduces you to it. So let's think of it like that weird dip. Your aunt's boyfriend brought to Christmas Christmas one year. You're skeptical at first but then you end up enjoying it because it's different from what you're used to. And then all of a sudden it becomes a new tradition right. Yeah I guess so you know you can put put a movie like Elf with Will Ferrell You Know I. It's a family favourite that we didn't know we needed will Ferrell as completely guileless childlike Elf. I mean Bob Newhart places adopted. Dad I mean none of this should work on paper. You've got James Caan. Who's this old school movie? Tough guy as his polar opposite pun was not intended ended there and you know the catchphrase that you can say all year you sit on a throne of lies. I mean what's not to love. Then you got bad Santa. It's it's this R rated dark comedy. Where Billy Bob Thornton plays this gin soaked mall Santa slash thief so I think this? Is You know that that naughty little sip of Rahman eggnog. You're older cousin gave you when you were way too young. You know. Sometimes that happens you know an older brother leaves you you know. Leave something out and you have a sip of it. That's that's what bad Santa is and die. Hard to me is like the Christmas pudding. My mother-in-law doses and brandy and then sets on fire shooting shooting work. Somehow it does. There's action there's fire it's exciting. I gotta get this last one because this this movie is one that I personally quite like because it reminds me of when I actually moved to London every go whenever I get gloomy with state of the world. I think about the arrivals gate at Heathrow Airport general opinion starting to make out that we live in a world of hatred and greed. But I don't see that seems to me that love is everywhere often it's not particularly dignified or newsworthy is worthy. But it's always their fathers and sons mothers and daughters husbands and wives boyfriends girlfriends. Old Friends when the planes hit the twin towers as far as I know none of the phone calls from the people on board were messages of hate or revenge. They were all messages of love if you look for it. I've got a sneaky leaky feeling. You'll find that love actually is all around so we're actually fit fit in the menu. I don't know maybe. Are we going to call it. The Brussels sprouts of Christmas movies. I mean people either love it or they hate it. And you're on your nineteen Brussels sprouts right. Why don't like Brussels would be whatever that one dividing meal or dish at dinner that people either rave about can't stand so I'm not on team love actually and I don't like Brussel sprouts either? So maybe that's it. I have tried more than once. I have tried watching love actually more than once and don't tell me I can put Bacon on it because Bacon can't solve everything now. Last year there was a rather spirited and fun back and forth between a couple of writers one one who hates love actually one who loves it. I think the reasons we hate or love. This film are actually the same. So why do you love it because it reminds me of moving to London. Honestly we're quickly running out of time so I WANNA ask you. What your favorite holiday movies? I love a Christmas story. I love the the the kid that wants the. BB Gun MHM that's my absolute number one top but I also love watching. The Alastair Sim Christmas Carol late at night. It's almost like watching a horror movie but it has a really happy. CBS that one that one goes way back into my childhood Die Thank you so much. There's been a lot of fun. My pleasure have a great day die. Golding is a film critic Riddick. With deer cast and crew dot com a member of the critics choice association. She was in our Ottawa. Studio for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.

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'Last Dance' Last Thoughts; Former Western Michigan HC Steve Hawkins on Coaching, John Wooden Relationship

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'Last Dance' Last Thoughts; Former Western Michigan HC Steve Hawkins on Coaching, John Wooden Relationship

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Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iheartradio APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey welcome to the podcast boy Doug Gottlieb here man Steve, Hawkins going longtime twenty years. He was a coach seventeen years. The head coach at Western Michigan. was relieved of his duties in March actually during right before quarantine. He's GonNa. Reflect on his time getting to know. The late great John Wooden, and what what? His run was like at Western, Michigan. I WANNA give couple thoughts though on the last last dance first thing is this. Can we stop with these? Scottie Pippen was made to look bad. Scottie. Pippen was actually I. Think made to look good. He was made to look like his contract was terrible. He was made to look like he was a warrior at the end when they won the title, he was playing with a bad back, and that he was the one who had the class. The class say Jerry. Jerry Krause was the greatest general manager of all time. So the those parts made him look good some of it in his own words. Were you know did that? But the only negative parts were real stories. I'm sorry he was the guy who was considered saw. He did have the migraine against the Pistons in Game Seven. He was the one who refused to go in the game in ninety four and look when they asked him about it. He said I wish it didn't happen, but I would do it again. No one no one made him say that. No one this is not Michael Jordan calling him out. And when Jordan did call him out for being selfish, he was being selfish Jordan also said that he's the greatest he made. He's ever had, and there would be no Jordan without pippen. Like what are we supposed to do? What what kind of documentary did you want? Is it a perfect. You know even middle of the road, not taking any sides documentary. No, it's not. It's not. And I told you would be. But Scottie. Pippen's onto me. Look like anything other than Scottie Pippen. And much like Horace Grant. He got a huge paycheck when he left town. That's what championships, too. I think that's really the part that has changed in the NBA for the most part. Guys who got rich, got rich, after they WANNA title. That's why Jordan's mentality was. It was all worth it. If you've to finally win, right to go all in to win, because he was never made a bunch of money in his NBA salaries all endorsements, he didn't get endorsements list. You want something that changed after he left because of what they built because of what the new CBA look like. And so now, guys. They make so much money that if they lose, it hurts them. especially the real competitors it hurts them, but it is not as devastating to their livelihood and their long-term financial success. that. I think is the biggest change. And do I think Jordan Jordan stitch on anybody for cocaine, weed and women of his first NBA team? You didn't name any names Orlando Woolridge is on the team. We all know he was in that room. No one that's not a surprise. These are not breaking stories. The Horace Grant thing. He thought ores grant was to stitch. But it wasn't like they didn't give horace. Grant a chance to reply and respond of course they did. We just don't believe him. Because why would you be friends with the writer of the writers writing a book and all of a sudden? You won't talk to the writer. Stop It. Stop It. I loved it though it reminded me of just how good the NBA was back then and I hope we can get back to that place in regards to Horace Grant. I liked. Horace Grant. I run. I don't know if he was the SNITCH. Do I think he was a source absolutely, he even said he had a long relationship with Sam Smith writer, so he has long relationships. Sam Smith writes a book. You don't think any none of the stuff came from Morse grant come on I was born night lot last night in Jordan has the ability to to compartmentalize like you can be a snitch and not be a horrible teammate. For Pippen. You can be selfish and not be a horrible teammate. I think that's what. He means, and if you think Jordan's too harsh on a guy who played with keep in mind that, even though he got paid, and he got a huge contract, horse grant went to play for a division rival, a team that ultimately vanquished Michael Jordan in the NBA playoffs when he just came out from baseball and ninety five. So, Jordan who's competitive, his hell with his own teammates, let alone his opposition. You don't think that if one of his teammates left mid career and went to an opposition played the playoffs that he would have something for him. Of course you would why 'cause? That's Michael Jordan. Look I I liked the documentary. Was it perfect? No miss some things. Sure, but guys are acting like no one got in a fight in practice. or the Jordan was a bully. You're I. Don't know or that. He shouldn't said you know bitch. Fuck you to to Larry! Bird Would what we all supposed to be saints, nobody speaks this way, not the sport. I know the sport. I know that even your friends. You can call the B word to I i. play the Guy Brett Roguish Dave. Is Dad played in the NBA was a great player Kansas and Brett used to score and like good bucket Brett. He's like. Yeah, YOU BITCH! Give me the Baltimore. Come on Bitch. Stop being scared. Give me the ball right. This is in the middle of a game when I played in Russia, I had a couple of teammates, and literally the first word out of their mouth was bled where you're going blit. Doing blitz eat let which is blood is bitch. That's what they would do I. This is one of those. Hey, I understand. You think you're looking at people who are like you and talk like you, but they aren't. They absolutely aren't. They're not wired like you. Jordan definitely award like you how Jordan's don't wired like me and that's okay, but but his purely driven competitiveness. Based upon success being measured by. If you win or lose, he's excess and I. Love hearing every minute of it. I was fascinated by it. I can't believe that the jazz didn't just outright double team. In once, he crossed half court. We've got as well. They had to call a timeout. Did you have to call timeout? Why don't you have signal for? If Michael's isolate the end of the game we're automatically doubling Legis. Get make somebody else. beat US Scottie Pippen can't move debts. Robin can't make anything other than a layup. Let's make somebody else beat us and conversely the offensive end on the malone turnover that was actually mostly on John Stockton. Back in the old days of the NBA where you had to clear the paint to follow your guide to stay within a couple of feet of your Guy John, John Stockton was only being pressured by Steve Kerr. Let's not act like it's Michael Cooper some freak defensive athlete. Right, so you're, you're dribbling the ball up court. You're John Stockton. Take your time. Take a look. Wait till Jordan clears before you feed the ball in the post. He didn't. Malone played soft in. Got The ball stolen from them. That's happened I think that one other part that's missed from. From the talk of the Bulls, management and Horror Strand whatever look at look at the contract that Horace Grant signed a huge contract. He was one of the top five play players in the NBA for the next couple of years after leaving the Bulls and obviously Scottie. Pippen made like one hundred million dollars after leaving the Bulls and I understand that the Bulls look cheap. All you have to do is research. What Jerry Krause currently wrote in an unfinished. Memoir that he was writing and I tweeted it out essentially at this. One they met after the season in ninety eight. And after the season in ninety eight, they all the doctors, all the medical people front office people would ever try to assess things like look Luc. Longley's done Phoenix offered him a five year deal three years later I think he was out of the League he's wasn't moving. The same now is a center replaceable. Sure sure disrobe was done. He played two more years of two different teams Lakers and Mavericks, but he was washed. So now you gotta place. Those two players get. You'd have to beg and plead pippen and. Though pippen played all fifty games after lockout-shortened season and played forty minutes a game one. He was never really the same and to, and this is maybe most important. The information they had at the time now only was pippen, ticked and wanted to be paid really really well, and it would have taken a lot of cajoling also consider that pippen had surgery at had surgery two consecutive years. His body was then he hurts his back. You know in the play is back in. The playoffs had ankle surgery the year before? So are you gonNA, sign huge money, just pay a bunch of money to Scotty Pippin when you don't know of his health status. And then he had Jordan and I. Don't remember me cut his finger. His retirement thing is right index finger. He cut badly with on a cigar cutter. That's an all time. Right got an a cigar cutter, but he did so we look at it like the the Bulls would just brought. Harper was basically washed up. We make Steve Kerr out incurs an incredible leader, an incredible player. But. He never started game for the Bulls like he was just a shooter off the bench. If it was what they did so I think they left it the perfect time I just do. Would you have rather them getting beaten in the playoffs? This is this is like a Jordan is basically the boxer that says I want to go out my sword. You know. Don't throw in the towel I. Want you to beat. Knock me out in like you know you've had enough. And by the way you go out as the best player hitting the game winning shot on road. You know good night drive home safely. I think it ended perfectly. Was the documentary the greatest documentary ever Seen No. was entertaining absolutely I. learned something sure and. There's some things to emulate there. Look just Kinda sum up the last dance, I. In terms of the game action I still. I still can't believe that Utah Dean Double Team Jordan like I. Just can't believe it, you know. Rule number one in basketball. Make somebody else beach you. Yes Steve Kerr hit the shot in the previous year. Now in this particular year, you had Dennis Rodman. Quin score you. Lock them in the Gym Scottie Pippen couldn't move. Obviously, it was really smart that out of the time out you had you know even in defensively remember the Bulls had gone small. They had Rodman, but then they had coach. Kerr Jordan and pippen, which by the way, if anybody wants to argue how the Bulls would beat today, be awesome, because that would be their small ball lineup and Robin was an unbelievable defensive player couldn't score, but could pass can hand dribble handoff can do all that stuff. They'd be fine. That'd be absolutely fine, and you'd have to think that coach incur and Jordan. Pippen would extend their range and shoot at a higher percent. It was interesting to watch those guys. Before game six take you know what look like thirty foot threes, and they were all casting them instead of shooting the basketball like it's really remarkable how guys have improved their range even over the last five to ten years. That's the Steph curry effect more than anything now, Damian Lillard famous for his his ranges bill to shoot shots. You know step inside, but courts crazy, but I can't believe that they didn't make Scottie Pippen beechy with jump shot to tell me the jump shot that Scottie Pippen made to win a big playoff game and he's got a bad back like. Are You fucking coaching malpractice? Make Scottie Pippen Beach. You Make Dennis. Rodman beats you. This is basketball one. Oh One! I still I I can't believe it. I also thought Stockton didn't the defense, and it was at least partially his fault in you gotta wait till Jordan clears. Remember the old. You know illegal defense. Legal Defense of rules you gotta you can. There was no. There is no five second count dribbling the basketball you. You can hold the hand of Steve Kerr, so he can't reach in there. You actually grab his hand. You wait till he's open. You wait till he clears, and then you feed the basketball, and then you either cut through, or we just spot up and wait, but he didn't. He kinda got rid of it quick. I didn't think reflected well on stock now. Stocking also got a good look out of the out of the time on the last in and Robin was late to close a switch. I basketball now stuff that that I thought was missed there. That was kind of disappointed because it and get to tax tech to talk to text winner. Then talk to your best was weird. But I thought you know all the guys are in the stories. Most of them got speaking. Defend themselves with the exception of Jerry Krause who? Gets a complicated legacy they really is. And Though there are there have been other dynasties since the Spurs is the most. His is really interesting, which is not really a dynasty because they went back back could went back to back when they beat the heat. They lost the first year. beat the heat then the next year. Too complicated legacy. with with the Bulls and with krause, but it's not like and so that's the only one obviously we see what let's see what happens a golden state. we saw what happened with Miami with Boston, only winning one. It's really hard to win multiple alone six titles in eight years. I think. Would would Phil Jackson was able to accomplish right I mean he won three in a row with the Lakers so in six consecutive seasons. He won an NBA championship. That's that that's crazy. But I I walk away, thinking Jordan's to greatest ever I thought he was beforehand. he had indomitable will. He forced guys to work hard. He forced them to get in line. And if you're offended by his way of leadership than they probably got rid of yet he couldn't couldn't do, it couldn't hack. It is not for everybody. It's it's not and it's a sacrifice. But the the sacrifice is worth it because those teams go down. As you know the greatest run of the modern era just does which crazy is that? Allow those guys forget. They weren't on all sixteen. Some of them were on three teams, and that's my take. Let's get to Steve Hawkins the now former head coach at Western. Michigan. iheartradio and the US census. 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Be Sure to catch the live edition of the Doug Gottlieb show weekdays at three PM Eastern noon Pacific on Fox sports radio and the I heart radio APP. Are Let's welcome in. Longtime, frankly legendary coach at Western Kentucky and now looking for what's what's the next thing they won to Mac tournaments two regular season Mac championships. They won the Mac West eight times over during his tenure, he's one four hundred twenty eight Games during his college coaching career into Stevens joins us here. The Ball Pod, Hawk how are you? I'm doing well Doug. How about yourself I'm good I'm trying to think back. Snow Valley but I don't remember what year and I don't remember if you're actually my head coach or simply a coach there because I'll tell you why I want to do. What what do you remember? I Snow Valley Basketball Westmont College in Santa. Barbara what what are your memories when I bring that camp up? Do you really want me to say it? You can go like everybody knows. I was an asshole when I was a kid. I'm an asshole now. So what's the? Okay well, then good. You can say about yourself. No it was Snow Valley Basketball Camp and Gosh. Almighty I'm GONNA say late. Eighties maybe maybe early nineties and Charlie Sands and heard lives the outstanding. The directors of the camp come me after about day. One of this particular week and say listen. We got a kid. Okay, and I'm telling you now. He's a pain in the ASS but we think you're the guy to handle them. And I said okay, so they put they put you on my team. And You earn additional. Yeah, you question things, but you win an issue at all, so from then on so i. don't know how you were. I mean I'm going to say middle, school maybe. I went there. I went there I. Think from like. Time I was ten or eleven probably till I was like fourteen. Maybe maybe they'll let me in. Part of the deal was this. I think it was a Freebie. Right so. It's it's one thing to be a pain. The at like I was more of a pain in the ass in the dorms, just playing pranks and being jackass, you know whatever taking out the slats of bunks, putting icy hot, and in in like roommates under attack. That kind of stuff like not now came to the work. I love basketball like that was in the issue. It was just. That was my way of having a good time. But it's one thing to be a pain in the ASS. It's nothing when everybody else's parent is paying probably at the time three hundred bucks, and you're not you know your your Dad's getting you in gratis, and and I don't know if you remember. They used to be two sessions, and so you know one session would end on like a Saturday. Midday and the next session would start on a Sunday afternoon, and so I would stay for my dad. Dad My dad would take me up and dropped me off and then hey will come get him in two weeks right so then so like they're doing a solid of letting you stay for that extra day when no one's around doing all these things for doing it for free and then yeah, you're paying the ass in the dorm, so I I think that's why irritated herb and and Charlie more than more than anything else I think he. was, it was a boot camp. It was unbelievable. I I've been working for a company called sports world. that ran all John Wooden camps, and as long as Pat Riley's at the time. people like that and I was working. That was my. That was my summer job, and then I and then I. Found out about Snow Valley That also worked. These camps went up. There was like Holy Cow club. Not Cooked wouldn't camps where country club, but the first session of Snow Valley was six. Am You know in the last game went off at midnight? I remember. I was coming out and saying hey, listen to campus as four hundred campers there sleep is overrated. Now's the first line every week at Camp and the camp campaign go crazy. And Yeah, it was. It was solid. That's for sure. Yeah first day and a half, no basketball, right, you do shooting gills. No basketball footwork defense spacing all things he's. This is a this honest question. I don't know the answer they still have they sold. Snow, Valley the the Westmont version of it, and to the Nike camps, whatever and there's also wanNA UC Santa Barbara. There's one in Iowa told some of the same coaches RU-. Run it. Are there like this summer? Are there any basketball basketball camps like that around period, and are there any basketball camps that are going to be around this summer? No, I don't think that they're number. One on Snow Valley I'm not sure what happened to it. I believe that and I. Don't want to speak completely out of place here. Doug, but I believe that snow valid. There was a guy named. Don Show. Walser, who's very very heavy with with USA basketball and he used to work tremendous person, and I used to work coach wooden camps with them as well and I believe that he got involved with Snow Valley. And that may be the I because he was a high school coach at Iowa. But in terms of camps. I don't know of anybody that has been cleared because Kobe I. Don't know of anybody that has been cleared to have basketball camps. Summer I spoke with Mick Cronin out at UCLA We texted back and forth and I know they weren't having any, and that was as else. Gosh Almighty maybe three four weeks ago. How was that? How did you get to to work John Wooden can't because I know you got a chance to be really close with coach wouldn't especially in the summers had that come to be? Yeah as I was I was coaching in southern California I was I just graduated from high school's fledgling football career was was done because of knee injuries and and so it was going to enter junior college. And had to get into my parents were on my about getting a job and I always knew. I always wanted to coach and and not to get too deep into. We've done this, but. Basically I found a job board and There was a a freshman coach spot available at Villanova Prep, high school up in Ojai California and Then I did that for year and I met a guy there that had worked coach wooden camps. And he gave me a brochure and and apply I used to. I went to coach wouldn't camps kid and I applied to to work there the first summer as a counselor then the next summer about halfway through they promoted being to what was called the head counselor, which is basically the assistant director of the camps. So about four and there was more than one of us I was I did. I ended up doing the rest of the entirety of the time that he has the camps there? and that California Lutheran College in thousand oaks. And That's really how it came to be now. The the big perk working coach wooden camps for me when I was when you're that title that counselor job, the big the big perk was. You picked him up every morning and you took him home every afternoon. And It was during that time that we got to be. We got to be pretty close. It's about a half hour drive. From thousand oaks to is Condo in Encino. And so we got to know each other pretty well. It was during that time also is beloved wife now. Had passed away, and so coach was coach was very open during that time and we got to be. the obviously was a confidante. You obviously by mentor many ways. He was like my second father. But at the same time he became a friend. and. We bought him back here to Kalamazoo. as a matter of fact, to Western Michigan. Me spoke at a fundraiser for us and two thousand six to help to help our team take a foreign trip, and and it just became a wonderful relationship that it got to a point where. Oh Gosh There was probably a time where you know. Not. Two or three weeks went by that I didn't speak to him. whether it be about life whether it be just checking in with them, or whether it be basketball wise, and I'll tell you. You know if you if you have ever spend any time around coaching. What most people know now? As as you ended up pyramid of success. That's what is really carried over as part of his legacy, there are people teaching. Yeah, you know the Pyramid of success everywhere in different versions of it and and certainly and rightfully so but at the same time. When you got coach involved, even as he got a lot older when you got coach involved conversation about basketball, his ice changed I mean the the competitiveness really came back his jaw. Got That in, and he became competitive again and he loved to talk. Basketball still. Was the most interesting thing he said about basketball. Boy. Where do you begin there I think? I think that the biggest things that I took away from from him on the basketball front was. that it one one time. He told me it took him. about anywhere between three and four hours. To plan to our practice. And and the he put as much time planning practices that much longer planning is practices than he did actually conducting them, and and so You know that was one thing that you so the preparation part He took care for years. Something crazy. You've been around basketball your whole life it's. The here's something crazy. Think about you have your back. Then practices started October the fifteen. You know whenever the Games began I. I don't know, but let's say you had a month before before practice. They never scrimmaged except for one day a week. he's not like playing was a privileged. And, so it was all about preparation. And then when he enduring those scrimmages, leading up to the first game, he would make sure that everybody you'll soon back also when you have freshmen, team and J team. He would make sure that everybody had played the exact same amount of minutes in scrimmage time against everybody else. And with everybody else he didn't want anybody to have an unfair advantage for instance. Okay well, you got to play with. At that time Louis off Alexander. So you talked a lot better, or Bill Walton, so you looked a lot better. He made sure that everybody has the exact amount of time. It's preparation with something that really stood out to me. Why did you retire when he did? He feel like he retired so really good so much more to offer. You know have heard him answer that the Million Times. I don't have anything I I. Really you know. All of those conversations in the car. I mean in the morning we were we were together. We were alone a lot because it was so early when you picked him up. Then, it was just The majority of the time it was simply a. Conversation about what had happened giving him an update on camp but in the afternoon. That was the time that you were almost never along with a that's when he used. That amount of time to for interviews it could be. It could be a sportswriter. It could be a coach. It could be anybody WANNA. Don't interview with on I would pick them up. There Account Lutheran and we would drive to Encino I got to hear all of those questions asked and and and to hear him answer all of those. And whenever it came to that question about retirement, his answer was unwavering He said that until. That game, then tell the semi final game that year in seventy five I believe it was. He retired when they won. He was on his way to the media, and and before he went into the media. He said that he really. told the team that he that he loved them. And that they have been one of the easiest teams yet. Ever head coach, and that was something to say for the very last team that he would ever coach Ucla and everybody was shot. and. He said that he did not know he was going to say it until he said it and and you know what was the right thing to do. And he never regretted. It never looked back. So you get there and Horning Zia coffee. Guy Was the guy. We smoke cigarettes like like what I like to me. That's more interesting than anything else. What was you pick up the old coach in the morning? I knew he had a New York newspaper at the time. What was? What was that like? Yeah No, it was a to the best of my not I. Don't know if he woke up in his in his condo if he drank a cup of coffee or anything along those lines, but the reason I picked him up so early as he wanted to have. he wanted to eat breakfast with campus, so we would be back in time and in the cafeteria. When the campers came down for breakfast, and so he would eat, he would go table to table. He talks coaches players. the campers there and and but he would actually eat breakfast there. never drains never smoked as a matter of fact, it was shortly one of the most memorable. What are the most memorable days I ever had was the first time that really in my life was the first time I got invited into coaches condo and it was shortly after his wife had passed away. And we were having. We were in the middle of a conversation, and it was one of the rare afternoons that I took him home. With with nobody else in the car, and so as we approached his CONDO, he said well Steve Do you have. Do you have to get back to camp? And then he goes? Oh, what am I thinking? The campus named after me. You said you can come out of. It just tell the two directors guy named Hector Mris, and another one named how mentor of it he said just tell hector in how that that I kept you so I went into his Condo, and we talked in the introduced me to his favorite cocktail that day, which was roaches grape juice. With seven up. And that was that was. That was about as heavily as he ever drank. Though we're apart, these days was sharing more so at Geiko. We'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing you savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy haircut fails. Thanks for sharing your inner lip sing star. Now it's our turn to share with the GEICO. Give back a fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers, because we're committed for the long haul, the fifteen percent credit last year, full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash, give back for more info and Eligibility What about his coaching style. Did you use in the way in which you've coached? not a lot of it I. You know in in terms of styles. There were a lot of the teachings here at Western michigans that that that I. Base things on on his definition of success I actually have. A Tattoo on my right arm of his definition of success, and so we based our. We took the to recruiting. We checked everything we did. And I've tried to do what I could to base my life around it and and it drives me It really drives me daily be put down on everything in the locker room, and so forth and so on, but always teachings, and then his fairness is since a fairness so the general things were the takeaways. The specifics that wasn't likely ran the high post. Offense I was not able to stay away from the cursing that the coach warden. The coach wooden stayed away from me. Would never curse things like that, and and so I wasn't able to stay away from that. but but in terms of the general principles. Yes, I mean definition of success. successes peace of mind, which is a direct result of self-satisfaction which comes from knowing. You did the best to become the best. You're capable of becoming that that you know we've tried to. You know I've tried to live by that. It doesn't matter the scoreboard as you know. The scoreboard can lie to you, you can win a game and play terribly You know if you've played in them, theory or opponent, you know you can lose a game and so great. Because you. Don't want to say great, but you can feel better about it because. I, you know. The Western Michigan Broncos were the play the La Lakers one hundred times. They're going lose. One hundred one games but in some games you can play better than in others. You have no control over your opponent. You do have control over your effort. Your concentration, your desire your preparation. Those are things those are standards. Those aren't goals. Those are standards, and and there's a major difference between the two, and so living up to a standard was way more important than reaching the goal. Say Twenty wins. You know you have no control over injuries. things like that You know you just so preparation and desire and things along those lines were the main things I took away from coach. You are the head coach at Quincy, and it's in Illinois for people who don't know where Quincy University is. You've been assistant there. He left went to Saint. Andrews came back You'd been a college assistant you. You've been a coach in high school and then a college assistant for a long time. What was it like to get your first head coaching job at? And get to call your own place. Make your own team. Oh it was. humbling Um it. Something that you really? I was twenty eight. I'm when I got the job. It's a division two school in Illinois Quincy University. I was head coach there for nine years, and it was in the Best Division Two league. In, the nation the southern. INDIANA, what I was at Quincy Southern Indiana Bruce Pearl was a coach at Southern Indiana Kentucky Wesleyan, and he won a National Championship there Ray. Harper was the head coach Kentucky Wesleyan. They'd won championships there Bob Valvano optum Valvano, brother was which Bauer men There were just outstanding Ca Jim Whites will now the coaching at Buffalo. He was Louis University so outstanding coaches in in in a great lake and and Northern, Kentucky is in the League. They were division to school at that time now visiting Horizon Conference And It was very humbling because you think you're ready. in in what what really happened there in this is? One of the reasons why I think whatever success I had here at Western Michigan while I was coaching here. So much of it, I made so many mistakes early There wasn't a rung on the ladder. I'm that I missed coming up. You mentioned some of the stops. and wasn't from being a freshman coached jv coach. To a student assistant at a D. ONE TO A. a graduate assistant. At a D. to any. Ice School is an assistant act to D. Two as a assistant, and then the head coach of the D., two and Quincy University for the next nine years before I came to western Michigan System, for three years, and then finally a head coach at a division one school, so the the weren't too many rungs on the ladder. I missed. That I've slept in cars. you know I'm recruiting trips because we didn't have the budget. And when you start making mistakes. At the division two level especially in that first year that you're talking about the wasn't there certainly wasn't social media at the time, and sometimes the media just missed it all together. You know like calling the time timeout. You shouldn't have called or making a substitution that you shouldn't have made and you learn from. Some of those things early on that might have cost you some games you know at the time and hopefully those mistakes you don't make later on, but I remember being extremely humbled. You think you know it. All and you're ready for the job, and then you get over there and you find out. No, no, this is much more difficult. In Quincy. It doesn't sound like my quincy. Would they basketball crazy city and community, and so it was the show. There's two big high schools there and the university was winning, so it was it was it was it was being put into the fire in my own way, I in my own little small world. You left Quincy to be an assistant. Western Michigan under Robert McCallum Wiley being head coach to be a division one assistant. For the main for, and this is one of the things that makes coaching so difficult at the college level and there's a lot of. A lot of folks don't really understand your your so reliance on everybody else to do their job also. And and at Quincy University budget cuts were taking place There were major budget cuts taking place. There was a change in the athletic director spots, and there was a change in the president's spots and university had a falling enrollment. And and it was in some trouble financially. They weren't investing in basketball and I as I said yet. That place Mike Southern. Indiana with bruce pro. They were they were investing. And so I just did not see a good future there. losing literally affects my health. I mean mental physical all of it. The losing and so. We just weren't Denver a lot NCWA tournaments. We just weren't heading in the right direction, I felt like I was in a losing situation so I decided to make the jump. okay, so, but what's that like? You go from being a head coach where you call your own shots now you're somebody's assistant. Some you've done before, but something you hadn't done in nine years. How difficult was that part of the transition? The first week is like what the hell of I'd done. You know because I'd given up all that control. You know now all of a sudden, you you. You got the biggest adjustment. Is You go from working on your own schedule to somebody else's schedule? coach. If the coach gets pissed off and and they you know if your head coach gets pissed off and kicks everybody out of practice. you know at four thirty and says okay. We're coming back tonight at eight and we're GONNA. Finish practice while you're gonNA. Show Up, you know, and it doesn't matter if you had a dinner date plan with your wife or not. a daddy daughter dance. Something like it's all off. So, one of the biggest adjustments is just going back to working on somebody else's schedule now. That was the bad part of things. The good part of things was that it's back to just being basketball, but it was great. To not have to go in to meetings with the president or the athletic director in trying fight for your program. It was great to be back with the guys you know to be back with players player development, recruiting down film, watching film the stuff that you love to do as a coach and spend time with players, and and getting to know him better on a personal level in so that was the positive part of things. As well, so there was some good and some bad that went along with it, but I. I was really ready for the change. he gets the South Florida. Job Right mccullum's head coach. He gets a South Florida job. What was the process like of of getting the Western job? Yeah that was that was A difficult time I'm right there because. Western. Michigan wasn't sure what they were GONNA do. It wasn't like the elevated immediately. And, Robert one of an answer pretty quick about whether or not I was going to go with them. To, south Florida and so I had to kind of roll the dice a little bit. and and I stuck around. Western Michigan we were close to final exams, and so I stuck around Western. Michigan and I talked to the athletic director. Named Kathy Beauregard. It's still the athletic director. I talked to her and said. Listen I don't think it's a good time. To be leaving the kids there in the middle of final exams, she agreed I stayed on as an interim while they tried to figure it out and. There was about two weeks about two weeks later. with the players support. They ones that really helped. With. The whole thing was about two weeks later that I got that coaching job, so it was, it was a little nerve racking. I wasn't sure we had done our job. You know we built the program. When coach mccollum was, it was A. A extremely driven man. part of the George Raveling family. And was the tremendous coach in a very hard working coach, and it really will pro grab from when we first got here in two, thousand, two, thousand and three from eight wins to than going to the nit. And winning a game actually before he took south Florida job so It's one of those deals where you do your job. You think you're going to be rewarded and hang on a second I may be without a job altogether slop pizza. Make a move down. South Florida. or and if West Michigan Decides, I'm not the guy. Where am I going to be so that it was done. It was a tenuous time for sure. After all you've been through the class of twenty twenty deserves a proper sendoff, which is why Iheartradio and Doritos brings you commencement the podcast, featuring speeches and dedications from icons. We admire most here from Halsey. Kids we've shown the world while we can be sold a lot of things, we will never buy a dream and pit bull. You guys at racist. STAND UP! You guys a generation. Make a difference. You Guys Generation Generational Change, the world, techy G, John Legend Kesse Andrew Martinez Khalid and many many more all have something to say to you the amazing class of twenty twenty. 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And, so we built the team, and then that year we ended up going twenty six and five, and winning the Mac, and going to the NC, double A. Tournament, so my first year as a head coach. individual in basketball. You know all of a sudden you turn around and We were a bit of a story that year and one of them. You're Kinda the teams to watch out for after we got in and I remember. we'd be Kim State in the Mac Championship game in two thousand and four, and and I remember the relief more than anything else lead because we were favorite, obviously going into it. In our member, answering a question and the press conference about you know what seed we're going to be in the NC Twa. What what I thought, I saw and I said I I, don't I don't i. don't really care. It's just going to be released. To to not be favourite again. you know there's been a lot of pressure on on the guys on us. And everybody joked about it and and then our first round opponents was vanderbilt and Through the media types everybody started taking us as an eleven seat over vanderbilt of sixty. We actually went into the game as a favorite again, and so it was a it was a strange surreal year. All of a sudden you walk. You dream doing these kind of things, but next thing you know you want out on the practice court. you know and there's four or five thousand fans there to watch practice. And we were down in will handle of that year. So is a very strange feeling as if it's almost out of body experience. You know when you're when you're walking out onto the court for the first time in the NCAA tournament, we had a tremendous team with some great kids, kids and I'm spilling touch with to this day. you know talked talk with one of the guards on the team just two days ago Prang Snyder. And and so we it was, it was just a very memorable year a very special year. Yeah. Mike Williams is great in that game Mario more of a lychee guys up a little bit. How much do you remember about the mentioned Snyder, he obviously struggled one for I checked the stats. One for nine did have six assists you know you had been read went on to become your best player th the following year. I. Here's what I'm interested in so the next year. And then you have a very young team for a couple of years. Was it more rewarding. I think it was about four years later. You end up winning the Mac and you win twenty games. which was more rewarding getting that NCA tournament the relief in your first year or rebuilding it and winning the league that five years later. We were winning. We at one some some Mac. West titles I think we one eight MAC titles in. Seventeen years I was the head, coach and There's something like that seven eight I. Don't remember but the two thousand fourteen was was the last time we won the back. Hall and in the Mac. Tournament and I think that there was. A each of them are special in their own way. The first one was always obviously. Stachel and it was a crazy year. ME, taking over as head coach, but the two thousand fourteen team was not favored at all to win it. And We had some. We had some great players Shane Winnington. Was Our senator went on to play for the Pacers for a while? Still playing in Spain. With outstanding players on that team and it was a great team. They really shared the ball well and so it that when there was a relief in there was certainly a pleasure I was able to enjoy that I think more than the first one because that remember sending Larry Farmer. was my assistant coach. Though the one time UCLA legend, he was one of my assistant coaches. Western for six years with me and we stood on the court as celebration was occurring, and people started to cut down nets, and all of that kind of thing, and both of us were able to really kind of. Take in the moment they you know and and and so I think I appreciated that one. Probably a little bit more of the first one was more fun. The second one was was probably more appreciated. You know it's interesting. The fourteen squad I called Your Games in Puerto Rico Wittington I'm GonNa say he was a sophomore? You also had Matt Stain Brooke who went on to be kind of a star? Xavier. Lost Weight and he played. You know so. It's interesting. 'cause I remember sitting with you and you said you said look this kid. WHITTINGTON IS GONNA. Be Really really good in a couple of years, but you know when you're calling and I hadn't called a ton of Mack Games so you know you've got to trust your judgment on distrust me in a year or two. This kid has a chance to be like Oh. Hold on coach. Wait a second. Know You love your kids right I. WanNa ask you though about about about now. The landscape I mean you were one of the first to lose your best players to the transfer up right now a lot of times. It's a grad transfer, but sometimes it's a regular transfer like. Like here here you are at a school and there's e. you didn't leave when you had the opportunity to now a student athletes are offered the opportunity whether it's Grad transfer regular transfer to transfer. From Mac to big ten, or whatever would what are your feelings about where we are now as opposed to when you start at Western, in terms of the transfer culture. You know what? By the way, I got a committee on your memory because I mean going back to lion, you call them those games. Ordering Remembers Puerto Rico and we also. We went out I went out to dinner with the referees one night, and it was amazing like I learned so much more about these referees I've been on air for ten years and eleven. These guys went out to. We went out and and you know we're having. We're having a Mohegan does, and they know everything about the teams. They know who's good. WHO's not who's in a whole? WHO's not like? It was amazing, but yes. I, remember I had seen forever and I got a chance to call through your games. It was A. it was a lot of fun in I remember also you did. If you remember going back to you, did tournament in Hawaii the rainbow, the rainbow tonight diamond head diamond yeah. Yeah and you were I. Remember Catching one morning you. You were taking surfing lessons so with my wife on Christmas Day. That's right and with my wife and your Christmas Day. We took surfing lessons. That's a good. Nazi see I'm not the only one with a good memory. Well, we'll see I've I've been doing my own research. I'm getting ready I mentioned to you getting ready to start my own podcast here in a couple of weeks most likely, and obviously I'm hoping return the favorite come on there, but preparations keys. That's what I keep hearing so. It absolutely is okay, so okay. So, why didn't why didn't you ever leave a you had opportunities? You had four fourteen. You Win the League. You're doing a great job. You have no, no flaws in terms of you know NCAA stuff where guys can't hire you. You've coach in the Mid West. You have west coast routes. WHY STAY! It's it's harder to answer that question now. and be honest with you at it. Because of what's taken place, you know I was like. Go at Western Michigan. March. The eleventh after twenty years of the school had I known that it was gonNA end that way I probably would've lost a lot earlier the so that's the end of it the real part of it while I was going through it. was. Coach would coach wooden St- words came back to me over and over. They still do come back to the I remember when I took over at Western michigans. all I kept hearing from the local fan base in this meant something to me and I mean. I realize you've got a national audience, but it meant something to me, and in when the fans are coming to you and they're saying. Please don't use my school. The alumni please don't use. My school was the stepping so. Please, please please don't don't do this. Don't and I realized what the MAC was, and I had I did have opportunities but I remember that I remembered the loyalty part of things I remain loyal to the university. I like living in Kalamazoo for people that haven't been here. It's. Like the bare capital of Michigan. There there's I mean there's brewpubs everywhere and so it's it's just and I'm a I'm a beer drinker and chicken wings, kind of guy you know, and and so I. I was happy and you know the Otane. Don't mess with happy and we were winning but over the course of time. the facility became a real issue the investment in the program. Just stopped and in you know it's kind of one of those situations. Where if it if it isn't broken, don't fix it. You know so when I look back on it. Now Doug I were if that were to be able to forecast future in it and I, had a crystal ball. Yeah, I would've taken one of those opportunities along time ago. but I also can't say that I regret it. because I read an interview with Jack Nicholson of all people a long time ago, and it was coming to Wisconsin. They were throwing topic out Adam, and it was an esquire magazine. They were throwing topics at him and he would just Kinda. spout off about it and the topic came up. I regret, and he said what's the point who said I? Don't believe in regret. It's not productive in in in. That has always stuck with I. I've never. I feel the same way I. Don't regret it. I would have missed out on coaching with a ton of wonderful kids. That I have great relationships with to this day. that is as much as everything else. But professionally speaking you know I think there's an old adage and coaching. which is you know at the at the health profession and it's a terrible business. and I would agree with that. You know it's a tough business to be a part of if you go back to the first part of our segment, I remember we were just talking about. It's a winning. There are so many elements that have to come together. There are so many people that have to do their job and I'm not talking about just the coaches and the players all of the support people athlete director associated the marketing people. Everything that that helps you which recruiting. It's all about recruiting. You know, and that's why you see. I was eight up a long time ago. That said You can't win the Kentucky, Derby, but the jackass that you know all of this comes down to recruiting and and and you have to have the facilities in today's world to attract these sixteen year old kids that are on your campus. I mean the old days of doing it where where you come in, and you do a home visit and you spend a Lotta time. Maybe on the home or you know they have a a full official visit. Take the full forty hours. A lot of a lot of the a lot of these kids make their minds up on the official visits. And so that I mean there are very few kids now that take their full five official visits so they come in on an unofficial visit and they started maybe a day. Maybe an afternoon on your campus you've you gotta hope that everything goes well. I'm during that time or maybe they come in football game. You really need to show them, and they need to see the right things at that time, and they make their mind up in a hurry. And so the bells and the whistles, that's what you see. What comes in football does or or what some of the practice facilities that have taken place, you know in in the basketball world and all the bells and whistles that go into those Again looking backwards. Yeah, it would be easy for me to say to take take the money at another place at one of the time that was offered to go someplace else but at the same time I remain loyal and I can play on a soft pillow because of that. 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That way wants to grow in the middle of the pandemic and so what? What Do I I'm not a guy that sits still well, and so I'm in the process of trying to figure out what I'm going to do for the next year and and whether or not I really do stay in coaching. And so the. To cut all the way through a really long story, the thing that kept coming back with podcast people kept telling me started podcast because of some of the observations. You just got up about referees like I, WanNa pill back some of the layers. Of The basketball world of college. It'll be basketball centric, but it will focus a little bit more on the X. Centric than just basketball. So I'm GonNa Talk. I'm going to talk with coaches certainly around the country, but. Get into more of the personal. Don't WanNa, talk coach's wives. You know what what's it like to? What liked to sit up in the stands and hear people screaming at your husband? You know what's it like when you? What's it like Ling you When your husband loves player, and you don't think he's very good. you know kind of thing be? We'll get into officiating world so anyway. That's one of our big philosophies that I've. I've had here at Western Michigan and developed his next question. It's a metaphor for life I. It's also obviously applicable in the basketball world. No matter what happens yes, to get to the next possession. If he scored blocking, you gotta get on them. And you know same thing in life you know you get like from a job or God forbid death in your family Eventually you gotta get to the next possession, and so the podcast will be called an expedition with Steve Hawkins and I'm in the process. I'm trying to do things that get doing right. I have no idea what kind of microphone. Microphone to by you know I had no idea what a pop pat was I. don't know any of these things so I'm in the process of trying to figure that out right now, but we think we have a guest lineup We have some guys that are ready to go and and I'm really excited about the real excited about it, but yeah, it's GONNA be a way to cut back and then open to do some games hoping to get behind the microphone. And do some games. We have a basketball season this year. I can't wait can't wait to hear it I would love love to be a guest La- last thing. How do how have you handled especially that first conversation when you come home, you've you've been a place twenty years. You know it's all your two girls, right? That's all they ever knew. As Western Michigan Bronco Basketball and your wife. How do you like you know you've that with players before you know giving them disappointing news whatever, but when it's your wife who has been through all of it, you know the good the bad. And your kids. That's all they ever know is Bronco. Basketball, how do you handle that at home? I'm it was? It was very difficult especially with the kids My wife and I we knew. For Awhile. Excuse me my my wife and I knew for awhile that this was a possibility there was. the support was starting to go They did not from your contract two years ago. When I was up for renewal and in and the school is in. One and is in some serious financial trouble and so cutbacks coming. And major cutbacks were coming. We are being told by our director Tall Sports. Then this was before the pandemic, so when the pandemic actually hit. Now it's now it's. You know probably. Three or four or five times worse, but. It was still a possibility, and we knew that but I was probably getting expensive for the cutbacks that were getting ready to. To happen. And and so, but at the same so for me, personally because of some of the things we talked about that earlier. Where where you know you're having to go in and fight with the athletic director President Every day about your program and what you need to succeed in the. Team when. It got let go. It was like okay well. There's some relief that I. Don't have to do that anymore. You know. I became happy and now I've got another set of problems but but getting out of a loser. Getting out of a losing situation now has just occurred. They've made the decision for me. now telling my kids. That's all different thing. You're right because when I tell them that, we're no longer going to be a western Michigan my daughter, emily, who's nine and My other daughter lists seven in the might of a fourteen year old steps on Y- The tears. were really really difficult to handle that explain. That, this is and you gotta spend it. You know to your own family. This is going to be a good thing. Daddy's GonNa be home more I'm I'm not I'm not going to be on. The road is much that part of things one of that that was the single hardest thing that I had to do is to watch your your family. Break into tears and then. The other hardest part was just the players. was a very emotional locker room I. Don't think they expected it. To happen, and so we also have. A fourteen kids lives and their families that go up in the air with us. All their futures become uncertain. You basically have we had to seniors. Basic left twelve free agents. You mentioned transfers to you have twelve free agents in today's world as well two of those kids, even after they named the head coach. The new head coach who was a former assistant Even after they named him, we had two players. the decide to leave. bannon Johnson's going to Minnesota and and Mike Flowers is going to South Alabama those were two leading scores, so it's very difficult to watch. Everybody goes through all that, but yes, your family by far the most difficult thing with the kids All survive survivor when it comes to that stuff, and really really looking forward to the next year. The podcast whatever. Comes my way, and then we'll get the next spring. If I'm really enjoying what I'm doing, then I'll stay and. if if I'm not enjoying it, and and and coaching presents itself again I don't think coaching I know. Coaching is not out of my blood. Saving Your Your Dad forever. They had in in your life so. That that part of things is still there for me for sure also. Hockey or good man. You're even coach or big, good coaching better man. I really appreciate you joining me. I can't wait to be on your podcast and to find out what's next I'm guessing it'll be a sideline somewhere in the. In the future in the meantime take care of those Kiddos and your wife. Thanks so much for joining me dive. You're the best friend appreciate you having me on enjoyed it. Be Short a catch. 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137. Dave Severns - LA Clippers Assistant Coach

Big Fellas Basketball

16:44 min | 4 months ago

137. Dave Severns - LA Clippers Assistant Coach

"I welcome to gen z hoops basketball coaching in sports business. Show on this podcast. Learn from confessional players coaches and executives from all over the world and see the court and a brand new way and now joining courtside z host. John hart phyllis dave good good job awesome. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Obviously right in the middle of the season in about to be for you guys. Hopefully a deep playoff push. I really appreciate taking the time and camera to kind of jump into all the cool things you're up to. I mean the first thing. I want to ask you and i'm sure you definitely so much basketball but the passion just comes from somewhere and i couldn't help notice on your twitter. You post every week though the hookah the day every single day. I'm curious maybe what that came from an and and we're made us think of doing that is something. That's kind of a fluke. As about four years ago with my daughter we were somewhere and we saw a really cool hoop. And i don't do anything on social media except that and saw she said you oughta posted as cooper today instead super today. I said okay so we did it and It's just something to kind of took off from there but First thing in the morning yeah. That's that's my contribution to social media group the day. That's a great everyone else right. that's actually productive. Ah when i saw it on like. Wow obviously some backwards that are broken. I saw some little tykes backboard some of the ads. And you know some you know. Some people will send to me a lot of them. I take on my travels. So you got an incentive to me. I've seen a few hours greece. I remember i saw coupled with in really bad shape. I know i know you'll you'll love to see those cool to see. Are you able to appreciate that. Nazi that with people with the people that follow ups the ten people to follow me. They get to see it every morning. i'm sure they love about a hung. Definitely up but on that same no right in thinking about. Maybe you're you're you're early career. I'm kind of curious by Before you started coaching nba that coaching path. Like and we've got you so inch interested in it. Well first of all. I had never any intentions or visions of ever been in the nba. I was just a high school teacher and a high school coach. Right out of college about star is a freshman coach in. Jv coach for a few years. Before i got even got first varsity job as a head coach. So and i was a classroom teacher in high school for what turned out to be twenty five years so most of my career was in high school then. I spent a couple years at junior colleges and assistant a year at division two as an assistant myeloma mater and then spent three years at fresno state. This is right when video. Coordinators were first starting matter of fact. That was so long ago we that computer video editing systems. Just come out. We still did a lot of stuff on tape to tape. This was back in the early. Two thousands at fresno state twice spent three years. There you really got into kind of player development stuff and was able to to landed job with the bulls player development role for two years with the bulls. Six years the clippers. And now i i'm in. My current role is a pro personnel scout for the clippers. This is my fifth season. Of course showing you definitely seen so much on the way. But i'm yeah high school stuff. I'm sure everyone always asks you about all these players that you coach them. But i'm just of being a freshman coach now at twenty good experiencing that with no thank you but also just kind of just seeing. How mean one of the very the milwaukee. Obviously because it's the number of jobs in the nba of high school coach. They're able to get to that level of. Maybe what would that look like for you. Rain seeing such maybe good high school basketball Coaching transferring that into the league. When you got a paternity well first of all my high school. Coaching wasn't very good. You know when. I first started added Coach i made a lot of mistakes. I you know like everybody but And i was able to come across some really good. High school coaches Through snow valley basketball out here in california and kind of when i really started to learn more about coaching. And how to run a high school program but you know at the at the end of the day it still all comes down to fundamentals and basics stuff now with the social media and you ability to put so much stuff out there for players to see that we we just get away from how simple the game should be. I have a really good friend of mine. Mike prokopenko and he always says dominate. The simple i think we kind of get away from the basics and we see so much his fancy tricky stuff online is always comes back to fundamentals. No matter if you're a high school kid or if you're an nba player if you can't shoot pass dribble or guard the ball. You have a hard time plan a hundred percent at. You've already seen all that happens so many places but i was curious at the beginning when you spoke about how you made a lot of mistakes and you started my hurry our interview with basketball merging where you outlined. All sixty coaches make anywhere. What what's the biggest one. You can't believe. I did that for such a long time. And you finally corrected it. I think taken a bad job. You know taking a bad job. And what i mean by that is you know. There's you don't you don't have the support of the administration. You have unrealistic expectations from administrators and parents. Maybe there's no tradition at the school. There's no ability to build a pipeline up through the middle school and elementary school. And so i think one of the biggest mistake coaches make is taken a bad job with all my coaching knowledge and expertise alternative around and saying that you know there's some sometimes we you know you need a job and you have to take your job even if it's a bad job no you need a job now. Sometimes you have no choice. But i think what one of the biggest mistake coaches make as. They don't investigate. Exactly what kind of job. It is a super important to figure that out. And there's a lot of things obviously mistakes that i think are important. But that's that's right at the top of the list for sure so many no one one one of them that i saw the guy was people just are kind of talking too much maybe twenty peta the coach come on the show me like. Don't be the guy that just yells play like. Everyone knows that everyone understands that. Oh what did you see happen. Maybe the right people. Maybe a little more hesitant to talk. But i'm sure you still see it for especially for young. Coach is as soon as you can find out who it is. You are and discover your personality. The better you're going to be. I see a lot of coaches to spend you know four or five years of their career just not known who they are and trying to be different personalities in their coaching the city you can find out and be comfortable with who you are. There's all kinds of different personalities that we've seen but you gotta be who you are in the quicker you can discover who that is the better. You're going to be but the thing you mentioned about talking too much practice. You know you practice in your watson and the coach will stop and and for five minutes. Give a lecture on whatever it is. He's trying to correct when he could have done it in ten seconds. I think we need to do a better job of teaching and quick bullet points. You know because there's nothing worse in think back as you were player than losing your sweat and stopping the flow of practice and listen to the guy go on and on for five minutes about how to get to a screen or whatever it is. That's when i kinda meant by talking too much One hundred percent. I definitely see happening all the time. But you mix that something really key there and talking about how to find yourself as a coach. I'm curious when did you find yourself as a coach who right before the nba job was in the middle. I probably still haven't yet. But what i mean as we got to constantly be learning and growing as coaches. But i'd like finding your style and finding out what's comfortable for you and it took me three or four years before i kind of was comfortable with My style coaching. I went through phases. Where i was was crazy guy. You know coaching every possession. We called it the in the old school days. You had those video games video game coach where you're coaching every possession some guys. That's their niche. I've i've seen coaches at the nba level. Who almost coached like every pass. Every defense obssession at they are. But that wasn't who i was. So i think the corker you can figure out. Maybe more importantly of who you are who you're not definitely country song but definitely because everyone tied trust me to be someone or not but that that's important and most young people don't know who they are anyway in any endeavor that they're trying to get into over of course in all this coaching Learned so much from the always trial and error leading up to whatever was really really excited about time is a job. What how did you end up. Getting to the bulls won that all look like a young team at the time. Now i was a fluke. You know there's nothing i pursued. I was working in the summers in chicago. For a guy named tim grover. He had a business called attack. Athletics work with nba players. Mostly in the summertime. And i was happened to be in chicago when the bulls video coordinator was a friend of mine. He called me and said hey look. They just hired a new coach and he's interviewing play development directors. You know would you be interested and assure you know and it's nothing that i ever fired to do but also i just got lucky and got hired in So that was it but it was nothing that i ever really aspired to be all wanted to do. Was really in. California was I being a junior college coach in california. It'd be great because it's very competitive out here with the ju- coz i played yuko. I love the junior college thing out in california. That's all. I kinda really wanted to do that. I just kind of ended up in this kind of a fluke tribal kind of thinking about that story right in just not really chasing it but obviously the passions all around basketball. It just sort of happened that way. I was also funny. What you brought up tim grover. His company called athletics. Not was the train for the best player in the world. Or anything of all time or anything like that just made pasta. Maybe one of the greatest trainer. Nope anybody you know if your listeners know who he is but he's just a terrific first of all he's he's very very smart. If you've read his books on you followed him you know what. What a bright guy. He is but he was kind of on the cutting edge of strength and conditioning for players. Michael went to him after getting beat up by the pistons and he. He searched out any found tim because he needed to get stronger. And it kind of went from there. You know michael to kobe and dwayne wade and all of the guys he's ad so he's great to my in my opinion of what he does. He's the best in the world. Say it works a little bit and you know it's not just strength edition and stuff with him. The guy knows basketball. He played division one basketball. He knows basketball and the way he got guys to work and best thing about tim was he always told them the truth. Always you know. He didn't care if it pissed him off but he was always going to tell them as what he thought was the truth. It was a great experience. Just you know working those few summers with him. Oh definitely and then Thinking about maybe transitioning of then. You're with the clippers. When you first got there was kind of the same thing you're doing with the bulls that things change was similar. Well what happened. Was that the coach. That i hired me that i worked for vinny. Del negro we. We got fired by the bulls and in right away within a month. He was hired by the clippers and He basically called me. Said we're going to la. I said all right. Let's go after we got fire by the bulls eye was going back to california to teach high school again. I was just going to go back and resume my teaching and he gets hired. And we we get hired by the clippers and we came and that was the summer that The blake was his rookie year. He had sat out the previous year. But this is the first year that he really played so we had basically blake as as a rookie and yonder jordan as his second year so we had some young players and we had some older guys to like baron davis kind of at the end of his career chris cayman united stayed there with three years prevention and at in the same position. Three years with doc soco on just i imagine just seeing the progression of lob city a star The the progression. I mean the for a first year we went thirty and fifty two and then all of a sudden this little guy named chris. Paul shows up in. We get a lot better and ever since then clippers have been very relevant. We've had some some things that we had gone a little better in the playoffs. But we've been we've been relevant for sure the last nine or ten years laundry percent. I mean it. My perspective monteilh to the clippers. Something good if not great a championship. Contenders be twenty years. Old tyler watching basketball. I don't remember the days of the bay. You don't remember the. I don't remember that at all at the sports arena which is now demolished so if my memory was erased inch in terms like the history books i never read anything i'd be like. Oh the clippers are pretty precompetitive clippers. The lakers it's pretty up in the air. Obviously those record books do exist without those of my generation gen z. We're looking at a little differently than you said how. You're in that role for those six years. I'll put those two years with since. Obviously there's there's been a whole chain with gordon. Lob city now tweets have you g kind of change that what what what what's happened kind of your team or my rose changed that i you know. I'm no longer with the team on a day by day basis. And i'm not part of the coaching staff anymore. I'm pretty much just report to the front office. First of all we had the best own pro sports in my opinion and not just because of the wealth miller's as many many other things that make him in my opinion the best owner when we have a great Front office staff lawrence frank in our jam in our system gems. So that's kind of what my role is now working under those guys doing scouting and player by wei shen at the nba level. I don't. I don't do anything with college. Odds it's all. Nba stuff should not not travel to my. I'm guessing definitely watching a of film. It's funny right. I'm watching a gag. Every night is like league pass in oakland during the day. It's going back over to film and watching the games and a lot of live scouting. You know obviously this year has been difficult. we've been able to do some live scouting but not like in a normal year. Probably fifty percent of our time is spent on the road in a live scouting for sure. I definitely imagine the everyone's job especially for for scouts. Got the past Mine tire schedule is going to be on a plane right is traveling is visible these arenas as thinking okay. I can hit this on this road trip on this team. This team's i'd only to our flights do that one instead of a four hour flight on kind of that's like the whole that's the whole game behind. It should obviously not messing with much. Nc double or anything like that. It's all maybe pro. Based did you kind of try to in terms of being a scout. Meeting centered around team going. Maybe he's trying to see the teams that the clippers play if you how does that. That's a difference. She is that what you're talking about is an advance scout. An advance scout has to kind of stay two or three games ahead of the posse and that's an extra no job at it. Okay you know. And and he's he's working closely with the assistant coaches on plays and play calls and strategy and all that stuff a personnel scout is concerned involved with personnel. You know who's playing well what you know what players fit with our team with our coach with our culture and trying to get intel on players Just knowing the league is from a personnel standpoint inside and out As best you can using your contacts in your people that you know around the league to to help get information players. It's so interesting. What you do is so cool and you're doing it for for a team really fun to watch the baby. Something's wrong The best shooting team from three and from the line ever. so yeah. there's going on there. And i really can't wait to see it. Progress made while the plaster a week two weeks three weeks That run go of course much further than match up coach. Your diplomatic games to watch ali. i on right now. How might be halftime. Maybe the lead soon or whatever. It might be a gift to get back to. It's a fake so much for joining the show. I definitely appreciate taking the time. Mid season tickets to come on and talk about them all all the great things you're doing now and hopefully we could see in the future my pleasure thank you for listening to gen z hoops. Make sure to follow like and subscribe on instagram link vision and all major social media platforms at gen z poops. You can fill in and subscribe on apple. Podcasts spotify youtube and every other podcast platform on the planet. Get ready for the next episode.

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IDTT Wine 460: Joel Peterson and the Winemaking American Dream

I'll Drink to That! Talking Wine with Levi Dalton

1:26:47 hr | 2 years ago

IDTT Wine 460: Joel Peterson and the Winemaking American Dream

"New York state is home to an ever increasing amount of high quality wineries and keeping track of the growth has become more fun every year on March twenty six there'll be a perfect opportunity to see what New York wineries are up to now as over forty winemakers from the finger lakes Hudson river, Long Island and beyond will join together for New York drinks, New York, the grand tasting of New York wines at the rainbow room in Manhattan. Go to N, Y drinks, NY dot com. For more information about the trade in media tasing on March twenty sixth of two thousand nineteen or the public tasting on that same date, they'll be early bird pricing available for the public event, and this tasting does fill up for the trade. So go now to N Y drinks NY dot com to get your tickets or to register as trade, the New York drinks, New York tasting in Manhattan is the best opportunity to try for yourself. The high quality that New York state offers today go. To N, Y drinks, NY dot com. For more information. We love wine here at the show you love wine and vino. No that's v. K n w wants to teach you more about wine. So what is V? No. Well, we know is a wine educational platform. Available on the apple app store to teach you about wine in a very real and non pretentious way. It's the first course of its kind actually and it uses unique program to teach you what you need to know based off your current wine knowledge, it's really pretty cool. And ultimately, it can take you to the next level with wine. You know is going to give you the confidence you need to navigate a restaurant wine list, hosted dinner party impress clients, or maybe even a first date. There are lots of ways to make a better impression once you've used vino, and it can be an answer to those wine questions and needs that we all have your go to guide throughout the course is a favorite personal mine and a highly respected Somi Caleb gander, and he's going to walk you through. Everything you need and want to know about why freight ninety nine you'll be a wine Perot as vino covers a range of topics including production structure, red wine, white wine sparkling wine as late harvest and fortified wine and service, go to the app store and download vino today. You'll be thanking me and probably Caleb to vino. Now, you know. I'll drink to that where we get behind the scenes of the beverage business. I'm Levy Dalton Scallon. And here's our show. Joe Peterson on the show today, the founder and winemaker ravens would winery. And then also the founder of once and future wine Celo, sir. How are you? I'm doing really, well how you doing today? Really good. Thanks for asking. So you were born in nineteen forty seven. I was born in nineteen forty seven. My mother was a nuclear chemists to worked on the atomic bomb at Oak Ridge. My father was a physical chemist he made high temperature Greece's for shell development. And I have to say that if they hadn't discovered wine, it would have been really grim conversations around the dinner table because they were into what they did. But they discovered food wine and the early nineteen fifties. How did that happen that they discovered food wine? My mother did something quite unusual. When I was born she stayed home with me. I once asked her about that. And she said, well, she said, you know, maybe I was ready. That's what women did during those days. And I said, well, you didn't do anything women to during this. Well, she said I was ready for a break, but you weren't much of a conversationalist. She said, and I got bored very quickly. So I learned to cook because it was like chemistry, and she really did learn to cook like chemistry when she taught me to cook. She taught me, for instance, scrambled eggs. I didn't learn to scramble eggs, I learned teenager protein in different levels of Poteen denatured ration- that gave you different textures in your eggs. So she read a book by Elizabeth David. She loved reading cookbooks because they took her to places in the world. She knew she wasn't going to get for awhile. She read a cookbook by Elizabeth David that said, the French drank wine with their meals, and she thought oh interesting idea should never had a bottle of wine in her life. It wasn't that. My parents weren't drinkers. They were part of the sailing crowd in the bay area, and they drink lots of gin. And so in nineteen fifty two she went looking for a bottle of wine for thanksgiving. She thought maybe they should celebrate with a bottle on. And she went to the only place that she knew of that sold French wine, and that was place called the city of Paris and San Francisco on union square, and she's asked for a bottle of wine. That would go Turkey and the guy gave her a bottle of nineteen forty five Chateauneuf to pop if it had been forty three or forty four forty six I probably wouldn't be here today. Norwood Morgan my son who's a winemaker as well. They had that bottle of wine, and it really turned my parents into the wine drinkers, they got pretty fanatical about it. And that was really good for me as well. Not only was I surrounded by these people who love food and wine. But when I was ten or some 'bout nineteen fifty seven my father decided that he was going to bright more about line. And in writing about one found out that wine was hard to describe. But he decided that a ten year old would have easier words for wine. He would do these big tastings on Friday nights. And so he opened the bottles tastes them. All before the group got there, and he'd say smell these ones van. So we smelled wines for the first couple of years, and I smelled Chardonnay say what's the smell like? And I'd say, well, it's Muslim like apples and say what kind of apples, and I'd say, well, I have no idea, man. He said, well, we'll figure it out. He go out, and he'd by different varieties of apples, it cut them up. He would put them into glasses, and we would smell apples until we could. Villages. We northern spy, golden, delicious and Rome beauty. So the next time that I tasted a Chardonnay. I could say that it smelled a light golden delicious, and maybe a little rancid butter, and there's some vanilla in there to every time. I can't with something that was what he considered the basic word he'd find the variation on a self. I said spicy he'd go out, and we'd melt cloves Anise, and what have you? That's an incredible bonding sprints with your dad. Yeah. And he wasn't exactly baseball player. And so we didn't do sports together. I mean, what he loved to do was to go out without a wetsuit. Go into the water off of Marin coast, which is about fifty to fifty five degrees and pull abalone off rocks. And so my job was throughout the crab nets and catch crabs and to build a fire on the beach and have the hot buttered room ready for him when he got back with his limit of abalone, which was pretty amazing. You can just pick them off the rocks on those days, everything you're telling me seems like he probably had a really. Strong sensitivity for the taste of food. He did he was very organoleptic inclined. But he was also kind of man's man. He was a sailor he loved to sail boats. But he was also kind of a rugged intellectual in many ways. It was a true chemist, and he loved take things apart but things together when I decided that I wanted to take off a shop. He said, I'm sorry. You can't take out of shop. He said, I will teach you everything you need to know about a car bought a car an Austin, a forty I think there were three of them in existence in the United States, and we basically took it down to the frame, and he said, okay when you put it back together as yours. You know, I always think that they threw away the mold amend like him because he did all sorts of things. I mean during the war. You Nali did is chemistry. We're gonna high temperature greases. But you know, he felt bad about not going to war. So he spent graveyard shifts in the shipyard building, liberty ships. So he had this whole group of skills that were amazingly wide ranging when you add all that up and you figure he probably would have lived through prohibition. I mean, he never did any home line making something that guy would have been home. That's very funny question because he in fact, attempted home white making along the way, I mean, he was really fascinated because he would go up, and he'd visit Lee Stewart early souverain he was friends with people at Stony hill, the McRae's go up to par duty headman Celli, and like all the old Italian wineries law the way one of his favorite wineries was Nervo where would stop on a regular basis before. There was a highway going up. There was a long trip and a nineteen fifty Bill and he actually got Pena Noir, grapes one year, even though he didn't particularly like California Pinot Noir. And we made some line we helped him crush it. And it was all kind of backyard's of it was so bad that he ultimately dumped it out before even pressed it off, and we had Pino lines growing in the backyard from the seeds for like years. But he also got involved in other things one of the things he did in nineteen sixty six he had tasted Morial, Jamila wine. I was the nineteen sixty diamond jubilee cabernet that Moyal stored in sort of large upright Redwood tanks. The wine was delicious. It was really good. And he said, oh, man. This would be so much better for his age and small French Kook bridge, but most people didn't really even know much about French bridge in nineteen sixty six Mondavi was just getting into it. So he managed to convince Morial that he should put up six barrels of his nineteen sixty six vintage of the cabernet in French oak. And he told Moyo than Moyo. Didn't like it. He'd buydell we drank nineteen sixty six cabernet for our really long time from Jim. So your parents used to have dinners, Gerald, Asher and der accordion stuff. Right. Oh, yeah. My parents. They were founding members of the Brickley one in food society booking. Food society was put together by George Linton who invited a group of really doctors lawyers didn't chiefs of various sorts to join him. The were all these space types. So you had people like Dadi Adamson bell runes Barney roads wife on my mother who was like a giant competition. So they would have dinner parties and part of the deal was that you had to put on a more interesting dinner party and your last dinner party as it were. So, you know, they'd bring in people like Harry wa and Michael broadband and lots and lots of sort of luminaries in the wind business mostly European luminaries Awin variety, and they put on these amazing dinner. So it was really quite propagate many ways because they did wind. Couldn't ever do. Now. From instance, my mother and father put on a dinner that was from beginning to end sought turn. And my father picked the lines based on how dry the had gotten with age. So they started out with a nineteen eleven Santorin. Can't remember which one that they served with the opening day, and they just moved through the dinner getting slightly sweeter moving the years up hitting every great vintage of Sutton. Yeah. There were wines available that I got to taste that I'll never taste again. I've tasted some of the really great wines in the world. And but that ever intimidating being in the wine business. When I turned eighteen I never -ssume that I would be in the business, and I went off to school in depth was a degree in immunology and chemistry, and I work in a laboratory in Mount Zion hospital stimulated him sites and growing tumor cells and doing that kind of stuff I ended up getting a deferment which allowed me to go to Europe for a whole year. I basically just took off and traveled for your around Europe and a nineteen fifty five oaks wagon. We got the places like Budapest and Prague and like cities that had been pre World War Two unbound cities that would just how just had a sense of history. So clear up Amsterdam when way up into Norway, Sweden, and then flew back at these coast and down to cheat motorcycle and put it back together and road back across the country. Ended up in my parents living room on Thanksgiving Day. I drove right in on Thanksgiving Day, just as everybody was sitting down to thanksgiving dinner. It was like perfect. That was my dad, and that was my mom, I might feel like a pressure to kind of take life by both hands. You know, in some sense. I mean, you were the oldest child I was the oldest child. So there was a lot of pressure actually had a half brother who was the oldest child from my father's first marriage. And he died in a car accident when he was sixteen. I was eleven I think and I suddenly became the first child. It was interesting. I actually felt the shift of responsibility in being the first child. But. When it came back from Europe, I sort of hung out with at my parents house for a little while. I just didn't have any thing I had to sort of re-stationed myself and get myself, and literally my father at one point almost drew me out because he didn't like me not because we had any argument. He says you just have to get out and do something. Yeah. Like, you can't hang around here long. So there was some pressure to get out and do something. But I also had my internal pressure which made me want to do something do something interesting, and I was well in Scots headed on toys an advanced degree in the medical field. When I ran into Joe's wanted them tasting the vendors club. My father died unexpectedly in nineteen seventy one. He was fifty seven years old and he had given up his career because they had moved his department of shell development. They'd moved into Tennessee. He was not about to move to Tennessee. And so he began trying to make the wine business say real business, and he was trying to get licenses. So it could sell wine and write about wine, and yeah, so he was along that route. But he'd also begun working with Jerry Draper who was a businessman. Who ultimately bought a wine store and a distributorship? They have been friends. They started a group called the veterans club together and the day before the vendors club was to start and have its first meeting which was in San Francisco. My father died. So Jerry kindly gave me a membership of this club. There was no way I was gonna Ford what I thought was astronomical initiation fee of five thousand dollars. He basically said in memory your dad, I'm going to give you this membership, and you can come to our Thursday evening tastings, and they did these really amazing tastings like paired whites and paired read, so they do six pairs say to get to ours and to cabernet as into it could be from anywhere in the world. And I was sitting at a table. Joe swan one night, and I managed not only match all the payers, but I managed to name all the lines. And I got the finish dates, correct? On eight out of twelve and just wants to do that on a regular basis. And I said tonight was you know, it was a pretty good night. I said, but I can do something like that most nights. And he said can you teach me to do that? I said, yeah. Give me about six years and lots of line. He said, well, I've got six years. He says I've got a extra bedroom up and Forestville. And by the way, are you handy with tools, and I said, yeah, you said, well, I'm building this building. And so if you wanted to help me I could use the help. So that began a relationship, which is one and his family. I would go up to his house on the weekends and all my vacations and we built his his steel building. And I helped him, you know, sort of quip it, and I thought okay. Well, this is a chance to learn something about making wine, and he was planning vineyard. So I learned about plant vineyards and training vines and spent from nineteen seventy two until nineteen seventy six work majo-, and all my spare time still did my work at the hospital. How old was gel at that time? He had retired. So he probably was in his early sixties. They retire you in in the airlines when you're fifty five and he'd been retired for some time by the time I met him. So I would say probably sixty to sixty three at the time. He was a tall. Imposing man had these purusing blue eyes and this chalk of white hair. I mean, he was a handsome man and women couldn't resist in he'd been married. A number of times. He had a lot of kids and see couldn't resist women either works. Both ways doesn't it? It was an artist painter. He would do landscapes self-portrait gazelle hang in living. He loved wine. He loved food. He loved working in the in the vineyards been doing this for a long time. He ran into under Chela chef somewhere early in his history. I'm not sure exactly how that happened. But at one point Joe and doing a racking, and and June comes down to the wire inches. You've got a call. And Joe says, you know, don't take all when I'm working because he was he was like a pilot. He would start things in the beginning. He'd very carefully check things off. And you didn't stop project until it was done. That was just his way it was very systematic. And. June said, I think he'll take this call. So he he walked back up to the house, and he came back, and he said, okay, let's empty that last barrel and the lines was sulfur. And which like to go to lunch with me. And I said, yeah. Absolutely. But where we going. He said you'll find out, and you know, he never stop things in the middle. I mean, this was like the so totally bizarre. So we got in his old panel truck, and we headed out, and we started going across advised forest road. And I said we're going to Napa Valley. He said, yeah, we're going to Napa Valley. And I said, well what we're going gonna go says you'll find out. So we go down Napa Valley, and we get to Rufford and we turn to the right right across from blue. And I said, wait a minute. This is the road the depends house, and he said, yes, we pull up into the depends out and waiting in the parking lot is Andre and Maynard Monahan who was. Is there marketing guy at the time? The depends there were under a spa they own the and they would go back to France every year, and it turned out that these boys would raid the refrigerator when they left to and it appeared to me that the depends of gotten wind of the fact that they were ready in the refrigerator. So they would stock the refrigerator. So like they began unloaded in the refrigerator. And it was like fog Rah, and like caviar and multiple different kinds of breads and cheeses. Unlike Joe bright line and Devi was flowing like mad and so set around the table was you know, Andrei, and Joe and talked untold stories, and it was I mean, I was really kid and sense. I was in my mid twenties. I was totally white wide. So basically, I got the tutelage of Joe swan. But Andre Cam were Joe's house quite frequently and acted as Joe's consultant. So I really ended up getting no under fairly well. And getting a lot of good information. From him about sort of winemaking philosophical thoughts about the wine business. So what were some of those Andre was he would tell stories, of course. And you know, one of the stories was about how I think it was forty three vintage was so cold that he had trouble for mentoring the lines, and that he and his son had picked the only grapes because there really wasn't much labor, and they had to actually heat up the must and he said it taught me something about extended maceration 's. And so we would talk about that. But he always had some kind of story that went along with it. He was a pretty safe winemaker, and he used American oak be the I think he wanted to use French. But he advised Joe on French oak and the use of it and French oak barrels like new French barrels for like, a real novelty. And so you had to think about how you're going to utilize. Is them. I mean, I remember just one convinced to use French after he had barrel. Fermented Chardonnay in whiskey barrels. The result was pretty dramatic. I have to say ski flavor jarred. Nee is pretty interesting. Think for Joe was like one of those never again moments. And so he went to all-french out. But you know, you had to soak them up you had to sort of get rid of the the rough edges and the in Joe's mine Joe use things like gelatin finding which I don't use. But he was very much about smoothing. The why not making balance as was under. So those were part of the things that were going on. And I think that. Just one got really well known for making zinfandel. And as did ridge emerged got really well known for making zinfandel in about the same era. Just once I symphony was nineteen sixty eight unbelievable line came from an old vineyard on his property. But I think they really were the core of the renaissance of infidel. They they didn't wanna make some Fennell. They wanted to make cabernet and ridges case and Joe wanted to make Pinot Noir, and neither of them had the grapes really at the puzzle had to plant the grapes had to wait for the vineyard to come in. But they wanted to practice winemaking. So Joe basically said, well, I'm gonna make the symphony here on my property. Just like I'm going to make my peon where I'm going to think about it. The same way I'm gonna barrel at the same way. Just because I need to know how that all works and the symphony hall which had of course, up to that time, then go into gala hardy burger, New York, jug wine and had been since prohibition responded and made really magical lines. The first ridge into Nells were lovely as well. I mean, my father bought them. I remember then they made bridge as essence symphony ills, which were sort of the fermentation was stopped early. So they had some residual sugars to them. So they were dessert wine. But they were really actually quite good. Really interesting stuff. So they played with these wines in ways that they were going to make their finer line. And that influenced me in ways that became more profound as time went on because the was so good. And I thought well, why aren't more people doing this? Why are people thinking about symphony while and as I began investigating of the delegates thinking. Wow, if you look at it, it has a trillion system, which is totally appropriate for the style of grape that it is bigger clustered, great more Mediterranean and so go Blair head. Printing is exactly the right system for that. So the clusters don't sit on top of one another. It is dry farm. Yeah. Like, how many farm vendors are there in California? Now, not many. And the crop levels were in that two to two and a half tons an acre which is kind of where they legislate in Europe for crop law was depending on the region slight different. But the crop levels were at a level where you could make very high quality. Why not and it was like, wow, this is pretty much. You have all these elements. But nobody's doing it except for ridge in just one. And so I'm basically jumped into his infant elbow as a result of that and zinfandel was not expensive, and it was a veil -able. And some people were may it into white and lots of go into Gallo and opening. Yeah. Basically, I found a niche and by mid first one's in nineteen seventy six made four hundred twenty seven cases the line. I made it that's one and I did not release those lines until nineteen Seventy-nine ano- released them. I put an eight dollars and fifty cent price tag on them. Oh, you should've heard the screams of pain symphony L for eight dollars and fifty. If gotta be kidding. That's insane. I'm going, but I'm using French. Oh, and I'm using extended maceration, and it's had a lot of bottle barrel time it's worth it. And it turned out that sold out the thing about swans wines. From me was that on the sins. They seem really age -able, and they seem lower alcohol now, of course, he worked with different vineyard sites. So there's different eras when I was working with he was primarily working with the Tel desk injured, and he was working with my till desk vineyard, which is really there's a dirt road. The separates the Frank till desk in white till desk properties. They were brothers who had some kind of a falling out and divided the property with dirt road. So when we went and visited dry creek and visited the 'til desk gave grapes there were some of the best grapes. You could get and California Tuscan red hill series soils bench LAN, really many ways the perfect climate for some. Dell being farmed in a very very traditional way cross cultivated no herbicides used. But Joe and Mike were always kind of adage other. So but that lasted for five years or so and Joe mid some of his best ones they've varied in. They weren't actually that much lower hall. I mean, for instance, the nineteen seventy three and seventy four wines were one was fourteen one. And I think that it was like fourteen nine so we're not talking like twelve I mean, really this whole notion that zinfandel had been a lower alcohol one you hear it all the time and Darryl. Cordy says it all the time, but you have to go back to the nineteen sixties defined wines. That regularly were that, you know, Garo made wines in at Sutter home. He made some really wonderful wines in the seventies. At her home. And does wines were in the mid to upper thirteen. So what counts is lower alcohol. I'm not quite sure. And there was the labeling thing, you know, you could label align kind of semi randomly the outfall was not ever really true. So if you were an old line producer, and you knew you were going to get checked. You definitely didn't want to label it above fourteen factor as rumor you couldn't ferment above fourteen because the yeast would die and like just wasn't possible. Therefore, it was the dessert wine. It had gotten labeled as ERT once taxed like dessert wine where the taxes much higher. So people labeled them lower. They labeled them at twelve. But I bet you if you went back you actually ran analysis on some of the winds were labeled twelve twelve and a half. They're probably thirteen Moore, maybe even more. So I'm a bit skeptical. I've tasted some of these wine of tastes older MARTINI wines. And they might be in the dire edge. I think people talk about alcohol and symphony hall, and they talk about these wines that are fourteen and fifteen percent, but they're really two ways to get to fifteen percent. One of the ways is to pick the grapes at twenty three twenty three and a half, which with cabinet would get you to about twelve and a half thirteen percent uncle, but was IMF which tends to release some sugar after it's been crushed. Because there's some withering in those clusters clams little bit the other way to do. It is to do what many people are doing even with cabernet these days where they get them like up to thirty bricks in an attempt to soften the tannin's and change the ph range out a little bit. And then they take an ad water back and you've confer meant that. So it ends up at fifteen percent alcohol. But the blinds are totally different one has this kind of raising over ripe sort of heavy frequently sweet like character to the others. Vibrant and alive and high energy and and funded ring. So what would job in working with in terms of great Fridays? Obviously, it's labeled zinn, but what was in Tedeschi parcel that he was working with tell desk parcel. He was working with had some petites are on some carrying on not a lot actually tell dusky blocks up in that area were while not pure. They were probably eighty five or ninety percent something Bill and the blocks would kind of bleed into one another. So you have these really old vines infidels which had carrying on and some petite Surra associate with them, but the vineyard, but then sort of bleed into this really mixed block of petite, Sarah that would have other grape varieties in that were multiple and sometimes unidentifiable so like all old zinfandel. I mean, I've worked with a lot of vineyards now. And it's. It's rare that you find a pure old wind symphony delve vineyard and in some ways, not completely perfect. But one of the majors of knowing how old vineyard is just how mixed up it is. You know, you think about what was happy in eighteen fifty two's dollar is in California. I gets to Napa I to an area near grown by Joseph Osborne who gets himself shot brought over to cinema Aristide at Wayne vista adopted. Filet O adopts, it filet O is a French winemaker name foray who thinks that it's like mine from heaven because he's been working with mission grapes. And like this is like a real European grape with acid and all nine yards and that group really focus on symphony hall. So the to California begins writing up, so people are really planting symphony like mad is to be the right place. But nobody knows where it came from. And so this is before flocks were hits Philoxenia hits in the eighteen seventies. And they have a lot of other groups that they're working with. A big nursery and the middle of cinema and Kenwood called the drum nursery, and he's bringing in lots of cuttings from various places or big nurseries out in the central valley. So they're trying all sorts of grape. So if you look at the really old innards, they can have up to twenty some odd different graver is old hill, for instance, was of inner which was planted in eighteen sixty one originally by William Hill, and he lived long enough to go through Philoxenia and replanted on Saint George rootstock. But he kind of duplicated what he had in the vineyard because he liked what he had. I think they're twenty one different varieties in that some of which we can't even down if I would DNA which is not entirely surprising. You have to have control samples to you can when you analyze something. You can compare it to something, you know, is that gripe variety. Occasionally, we don't have that great variety in the control group, and they're what something like twenty thousand into for varieties control group. We have about five. So you can see how he's there might be things there that had been brought in from Dodd knows where Harris went to Europe and brought back hundreds of cuttings. Nobody knows where those cuttings went. There was a lot of material input into California. And those ended up in these old familiar after Philoxenia hit, and when they replanted the three grapes that are most commonly seen in these Owl's infidel vendors were planted in the eighteen eighties through the early. Nineteen hundreds is petite, Sarah Carignan and Alicante Boucher and each one of those grapes serves a purpose. So if you happen to be in the Russian river where you don't usually get great color in the infant del. You'll find that there's more Alicante a planet out there because it's grape that gives you color is one of the few Regius grapes in California, you need acid, like dry creek Carignon's, your friend because it gives you plenty of acid. And if you need Tannen and pepper, and maybe a little more color teacher is also your friend in cinema valley places. Like, you see a little bit more petite Surra. And so you need all those things to make balanced wine. So what the tradition was actually was to pick them altogether and co ferment than then co from tation creates a chemistry within the tank, which is different than you get when you blend separate varieties afterwards. So the anthocyanins cannons all come together and work as a unit the Carignan will be a little less right than anything else to the asset will be higher. So it keeps the ph lower. The zinfandel will be a little Riber and everything else. And so it pushes the the sugar, but it also pulls the ph down a little bit. So you've got the acid from the carrying on taking care of that. But the skins are relatively thin on zinfandel doesn't always have the tannin that grabs onto the color stabilizes the line, so petite Suraj friend there. And then you always have this massive anthocyanins, hit from the Alicante depending on where you are. So Joe us to do open-top ferments with native yeast and do hand punch downs. Right. Joe did opened up for manse. He didn't hand punch down. He would go out in the middle of the night and punch down with stand on little boards over the over the fermenters from enters were gigantic. I mean, they were like five ten fermenters herself. But he had fairly wide for mentors. And so there was a lot of space. I suppose you'd fallen in on you you could have killed yourself. But you probably wouldn't have gone in over your head less. You the landed on your head. He did not use navy's Joe actually inoculated because Andre didn't believe in using native. He was very much about control. And in fact, Joe inoculated mala lactic as well. I on the other hand had read about natives from -tations knew that's what they did in Europe for the most part. And I said, there's really no reason you can't do that here. And so my first wines were totally native. Imitations, and I've continued to do that. I mean ravens would obviously grew to be a very large winery. But the vast majority of our from -tations unless we gotta stuck from tation are natives fermentation so or indigenous she's fermentation is probably the correct term to use. Because you never really know. What's in that? For matter. I worked with a microbiologist who was old school and would do biochemicals on various strains of Houston, the ferment. So he could actually tell them apart. And he found that there were usually three or four dominant yeast within a for mentor that more the dominate Houston different point in the fermentation. So there was one early. There was one in the middle. There was one late. You know, so is changing conditions. The for mentor or alcohol more heat versus more sugar cooler temperatures. We're optimal for a particular use. They take over and do it and those use into prefer matters were usually different. There was always within the for mentor, some yeast that were similar or the same. We know the wineries are contaminated with you. So it's likely that those are the house she used occasionally the house, she would come to dominate the ferment, but it just part of the nature of fermentation. And so if you actually are using Nivose wrench your chances of developing a more place based flavor in your line is better. Some people would argue that's worse. But I had very good experience with indigenous from tation, so I'm I'm a proponent if you will I worked with Dr David mills who does a lot of work on microbiome Saudi microbiome now allows you PCR allows you to. Look at mixed flora masses. So they start using it on gut flora, for instance, what is in your gut. You know, all these little organisms turns out there things you never knew or their. We'll turns out and from -tations. That's true. Also. So there's a range of fungi and bacteria use being a fungi, by the way that you see in from -tations you have to wonder what some of them do what they provide. But every vineyard has a fingerprint every vineyard is different than every other vineyard. It turns out there some use that occur more often zinfandel than they do in cabernet or Chardonnay and some more and cabernet than similar Chardonnay cetera. And that there's a regional microbiome. So Napa Valley microbiome is somewhat different than brush Merv alleys microbiome, which is not entirely spies in because you know, these are vegetative forms, and in fact, they're influenced by the climate as well. So just one did not use indigenous. She's although I have to say that while he unoccupied did did it relatively late after a let the Weinstein on the skins for awhile, and he did Sofer his wines. But he sprinkled the sulfur on the top and he'd ultimately punch it in. But I always wondered whether that was a really effective. So he could well have been getting indigenous us from intention. I do know people that have done studies where they have shown that even people who are not gate frequently did dominate yeast does not twenty inaugurated with. So it is possible that he was using natives from -tations and just didn't know it. But that wasn't as style. And he would it pressed the line off he'd be very careful about free run versus press juice in terms of separating separating them. But there was not very much press. He was a bit parsimonious as well. He would put them directly in the barrel. So they didn't spend any time in tank didn't really have any tanks. So and cleaning those barrels out on the first racking was always misery as it was like sticky slime at the bottom of the barrels, and he was not one for leaving the wine on the lease. I actually what I making reds. I leave the one on the lease for almost eleven months before we actually do. The first racking, but he pulled it off sometime in the first three months, depending on how he felt the wine was tasting. And then he would wash all barrels and go through the cycle again. And he kept his wine about sixteen months in the barrel. And he would racket periodically every three to six months, depending on what the line was was trying to do. And then he bottle everything by hand. I was pretty amazing. This little hand bottle. We would sit in the winery, and it was like five or six bottler, and and he bottle a barrel at a time do a racking. So it combined all the barrels and put them back in barrels. So sometimes there was two or three weeks between the time bottle the first barrel in the dining bottled the last barrel by had he been to Europe. Or now as a pilot who traveled to vineyards in Europe. So I am certain that Joe's one had been to Europe. I don't know exactly. How he traveled aware travel, but he brought a European sensibility to the way he ate and the way he thought about things and he brought back material from burgundy for a Chardonnay and Pinot Noir, almost certainly case clone it's hard to know where that came from. There are light lots of stories about that Mike can't even way, but it was one of the famous vineyards of burgundy and he'd done this early in his career. So he had this vine material, but he had to find someplace to keep it, and he had a mountain abode outside of Fresno a place called mineral king. So he planted these fines mineral king, and he would nurture them in mineral sort of kept them there. When he when he was flying. Go back up to mental gang make sure they were okay and alive. So when it came time to plan is vineyard in the golden triangle the Pinot Noir, right there near force Ville, he had this material and he pulled out of his stock at minting. And brought down and used budwood in in his finger. So the Joe swan clone is like one of the clones you care about and read about and see the various people are used. I was talking to somebody who was had been working with it Wim sell him back. And they were among the fact that it was fairly virus? But they thought that it made some of the best Pinot Noir. So so yes, he had a European sensibility European background and while he would drink Gordo. And he was fine with that. He would drink white burgundy and was fine with that. He loved Sasha Zeph and things like that. He would go and find kind of the unique smaller less expensive, more flavorful wine. So that was clearly a product of his time in your. So where did you source the grapes for your first ravens would once when I started making wine, I had hair down to my shoulders, and I had a fairly long beard and wore a lot of time and. Let's just say that farmers are more conservative than I was. I was living in Berkeley at the time. So I was doing a lot of Berkeley stuff. And so I had a little trouble finding somebody who would sell me grapes. Actually. Fortunately, Tom daler was also a friend of Joe Swanson, and we got to know each other quite well, and I would go over and help him during crush as well, and he located a guy that he was pretty sure would Selma grace because he looked a lot like me. Guy named Joe vogue Anson. And so my first grapes came from Joe Vogel since vineyard which was on the west side of dry creek fairly near where Preston and Bella art. And Joe vogue. Insulin took care of other vendors one of energy took care of was vineyard down on west side road. That is now cabernet, but that time was old lines. Infidel was called pulse. So I ended up crushing a total of almost eight tons of grades a new kind of sold it on your own or. Oh, it's a long story. So I made the wine just ones and Joe is also expanding. And so I kept it there for the first year, and I needed to find another place to make lime because Joe is expanding. He didn't have space to make wine. So I went and rented space while actually convince people they should let me use space at a place called Mark west vineyard, which is not the Mark west that, you know, now, but it was a small there was relatively close together. So I just from on the back of a truck and hauled him over there. I didn't have any equipment. I had for mentor and I bought barrels, but I didn't have a crusher, and I didn't have a press didn't have anything, basically. So I use their equipment to make my wine. I help them with their crush. But it was only a short term deal with them. So I'd to find another space. So I had run into. The Prodi family Giovannucci was a winemaker. There was very kind. And he let me have space to store my barrels at Martine Prodi. Now Martine Prodi was this giant crustacean for Gallo? It had these most beautiful gigantic Redwood, tanks were cinnamon and color. They would just kept them pristine, and they fermented, you know, one hundred tons of grapes and concrete for mentors at a time. And they used heat exchangers the manage the heat, which was like primitive. It was like stepping back into a whole nother era. So basically, I stack my barrels in among these beautiful Redwood ten thousand gallon tanks. But I still didn't have a place to crush grapes in the following year. And by that time, I had managed to get a group of people involve Guinan breed foster, Jerry Draper that who helped me by my first crusher. My first press. Martinian prodi. And so I crashed grapes there. But it was very funny because Elmo Prodi was like a little senile is quite old, and he would walk out in the mornings, and he'd look at me and go what are you doing here? That's no way to make wine. What do you think? Your and got to the point where he do it almost every morning. So I made one there for a couple years. And then I found space at topa rush vineyard, Michael Tova said just purchased Russian river, and that was place where I got my first point bond, which was ridiculous because I knew nothing about the logistics of going through the governmental regulations this pitiful. Yeah. So I took my I application into the ATF. And I went to the inspector of the who was in that office. And he looked at my my application. He says you don't have a clue. I said, no, I don't have a clue he said, you know, I'm not supposed to do this. But I'm going to help you. And so he helped me figure out how to lay out a plot. And how to write up a plot plan and exactly the right things to say, I actually bonded a space that was probably twenty by thirty feet, maybe which was a little storage shed off the side of the winery itself. So I had my first bonded space and my bonded. Wondering number was something like eight hundred to give you an idea about how different things are now in the world of wine and competition the bonded winery number. I got for once and future which happened. A couple years ago is twenty four thousand four hundred and some odd it just like that many wineries of come online since I had my first bond ravens wood, which was like nineteen seventy eight. I think so I didn't sell any wine and. Till nineteen seventy nine when I finally released. I had bottled it. I bought it. When I didn't have a bond didn't have a place to store it. So we took it down and hid it in a milk shed in San Francisco that Jerry Draper own. And that when the time came we brought it back up, and we put labels on it and sold it, and we did all the sales ourselves. I would go in and call on accounts, and Colin restaurants and read do the same. We ended up with our no Wimpy wines signed because of a conversation. The reason I had he said people are pushing for whites infidel. And I said, I'm sorry. I don't do pink. Sweet. I don't do Wimpy. It's not going to happen. I just don't make wines like that desire that we don't have the women to make wants like that now refrigeration nothing. He said, okay. So he's an account called California wine merchant, Greg Flynn, and Greg Sesto when when you're gonna make the white zinfandels hot and reads, it I think it's going to happen Joel's adamantly opposed to that. In fact, he says Joel has a sign over the fermenters says no Wimpy winds allowed totally made up. I mean, like didn't exist and probably would have ended there except Greg calls, and he says a on coming up. He says every like your wines like switch gotten barrel. And by the way, I see the sign. I'm going sign. Yeah. Yeah. That's fine. I said yeah, sign the one says no Wimpy wines allowed. I said. Oh, yeah. That's I'm I call up reading I say what's this about a sign says Wimpy winds east? Ooh. I thought he'd for yet. I said Nali didn't forget, but he wants to see the sign you'd better have one made by the time. He arrives. Yeah. So by the time, Greg arrived. There was a sign over the from enter the said, no winter winds allowed, and that started the whole no wouldn't be wines thing, which for us was a real way to make ourselves stand out from the crowd and to make our wines more. A recognizable and to sort of separate from white Symphonia, which was a phenomenon and a problem at the time. I was not about making big wines was about making wines. That were exactly what they were supposed to be like, the example abridge Nick off is a ballet dancer, you know, you talk about a man being a ballet, dancer, you might think it was a little Wimpy Ambrosia gov. He's not Wimpy's got muscles, and he's athletic as you can possibly imagine. And he's exactly what he needs to be to be ballet dancer. So that was what my connotation of, you know, no one wants about but rosenbloom and others came along. And they were building these big massive ones are actually bigger than the wines. I was making is just making pretty big in at that time. But nothing like what came afterwards. But at the time it was good. We had bumper stickers that we did languages nullum. Venom flaccid him was the first one in Latin. We did a in Spanish Novi no seen wave. Oh. So no one without Hanis. We had an tenable 's with no Wimpy wines. We had buttons people would collect thirty different languages of buttons that people would collect and they'd come in to the tastings wearing all their buttons. It was like it was pretty remarkable. It was a phenomena of sorts now, and I was doing primitive winemaking hunching down and very European winemaking, but bringing an incredibly American slant to it, which is why ultimately my punch down devices in the Smithsonian, and there's a picture of me punch in a much younger, man. Did you ever hear about the Albano salmon story? No. So the guy has white salmon, and he's trying to sell it and everyone thinks that same is supposed to be pink. And so that's a challenge for him. So he puts up a sign that says white salmon guaranteed not to turn pink. Turns it around. Yes. Exactly. Like a quality as opposed to defect. When I think of that story. I often think of you because you're also like the guy who refused to make pink refused pink. Absolutely. I've had funny episodes. I was doing tasting. Oh, probably in the the early eighties down in Houston, Texas, and it was kind of a high profile events and people were going around tasting and young woman comes to the table. And she says like tasters infantile as I Puerto loss Zanan, she she said, this isn't Fandel. I said yes it symphony. I made it. I used the grapes, and she said no can't be some adults wrong color. She says this is fragile. You're adding food color to it. I'm said, no, no, I'm smart. This is just try and tell me like it. And so she hops off with a glass of wine, she's out with their friends, and you can see her. She's kinda just dictating and going on man. This guy's a fraud now, but trying to pull off here and her friends are probably a little more knowledgeable. So they they're like that guys in the Smithsonian now that was waiting. I just can't. And so she comes back a little while later. And she says, I'm sorry. My friends inform you that it is actually a red grape. And I like yours infinite. So ravens would it's amazing that it started so small and became so huge the arc of your career is incredible. Most people just don't do it that way most people if they sell the winery, they leave and you became like a winemaker for constellations. So you started with this bonded shack, basically equipment. And then you go up to eight hundred thousand cases a year. Wasn't that fast? Wasn't like it was the next day. It was you know, it was a slow like a slow and painful kind of thing I worked second job. I ended up having Morgan in nineteen Eighty-one, and I had already married a woman who had a seven year old daughter. So I had kids and I had to keep that going. And so I worked at the snow valley hospital ran the clinical laboratory on the nights Senate weekend. So that allowed me some time to make wine during the day and Martine Prodi was not my last stop the next. Stop was the steel building at the end of deadman's curve on the son-jok mo- property was leased by manage honor. And I like to refer to this space as the former gourmet toilet seat shop because George made oak toilets toilet paper rolls, and there were very hot during that period of time oak decor was like it. You know, like if you could have an oak toilets, you were like sitting pretty and he had had to take the steel building and spray the inside with. Cycled newspapers because the players were so noisy there deafening. And so the newspaper would absorb it. But it turned out to be pretty good insulation. So for me, it was like, wow. I mean, I'm in the town of cinema. This is in the town cinema. I actually had a short flirtation with Emoryville as well. But we won't go there that was totally illegal and found out that Georgia's landlords were the son Giacomo 's and when George terminated his lease. I ended up leasing from the San Giacomo and their family actually started out Vittorio came over from Italy. And he was one of the founding people for sunset scavenger, which was the garbage collector for San Francisco still is and as that got bigger he ultimately sold his share in sunset and came to cinema because he wanted to be former which would have been formerly and planted Peres as. As the primary crop because there was a big Del Monte plant that was relatively close in cordelia. And he grew pairs and he built his family, and he had three boys and a daughter Lorraine and Bob who ultimately went into the business with him Lorraine, actually became a nurse, and she kind of took care of their parents in their old age. But yeah, these boys when I met them would have lunch every day with their parents Rosa would cook. And they would fraternize with their father, the father, ultimately became bedridden. And by the time the world is changing out there. So they're beginning to pull out pairs because domain, Sean, Don showed up, and they need him pain grips and so- Altima. They start growing Chardonnay Pinot Noir for Shandong, and ultimately others as turned out. So it grows and grows. And they're tearing out pairs and at first, you know, they're thinking, okay. This is going to break pototoes heart because you. Plant trees for your children and not for yourself so much, and so they go up to his room, and they sit next to his bed, and they look out the window to see how far does he this patriots vineyard? Creeps up the line of where he can see the patriots. There's a story that circulate around. Now that in his last days told Vittorio that the pears were going bad at and they were going to plant grapes. And he said L take them out. Making money. Take them out. So I actually got to be really good friends with the Sanjak MOS, and I would steal equipment from them. All the time. I mean, literally had this what seemed like army surplus forklifts and things, but I didn't have any gloves. So like it was like great. The winery was slow to grow. We didn't make a profit in the winery until nineteen eighty seven. And I had just about nineteen Eighty-three had made my first governor's plan. And it was an attempt advocate Linux attempt to have that kind of whites del doing something del now white wine without having to do charts. Or some other grape variety that you needed a lot of Whitman for because I just nab a lot of couldn't afford it. So I began this kind of concept of okay there at grapes out there. Lot less expensive, Lodi Amador Mendocino. That are pretty good. There is a way to make wine in higher volumes, but still using French still using natives from -tations, so you make a lighter style line you keep it in the a short period of time. So stays in barreled for ten months to eighteen months, and you blend it. Yeah. Using your blending skills and use part of the wine you make for this. Because you don't have a very big facility. So you can't very much although later I took over Louis martinian use two thirds of their crushed ice for vendors plan and also in wood and McNally got the begin of being the end, by the way, you augmented in the bulk market because there were people who were selling really good zinfandels for not much money because it didn't sell for lot. And you could blend it in and you could put together a tasty one that was very credible, and you could sell it for around ten dollars. And I thought as going to go anywhere. Until one day, Costco, showed up, and they said we'd love to take a palette of that wine. Or actually, I think they said three thousand was the first order, and I'm going what the hell is a pallet. Oh, that's what I mean. That's fifty six cases three times fifty six cases. Oh my God. My cash flow troubles are over. But really was before they're all done Casco was selling close to twenty thousand cases, just a regular check. Just it made all the difference in before it was all said and done one bottle out of every four bottles as infantile sold in the world was a bottle ribbons would. And I think that was a lot of people's I in. Yeah. People's come up may still and they say, oh, you were the first red wine ever had you turn into a red wine drinker, and I said you drink vendors anymore. Most of them don't. The way I think fitness blend is the evolution of those grapes. That would have gone into some of those Gallo blends and earlier generation ended up going into vintage plan. I think that's probably true although gala, which is embedded grapes. And I was using vendor reason a lot of accounting, grapes. And at that time also came up with a county series while, you know, head was focusing on vines, and I was looking individual vineyards, but it became clear to me that I was going to end up with twenty five or thirty single vineyards that didn't make any sense all going to taste the same. So my criteria for single vineyards was that they had to have unique flavor that was very much based on where they came from. And if I was already making a wine that tasted a certain way, like dry creek telled Ascii, for instance, and I had another really good dry creek vineyard. But it tastes the same. I'm just going to stick with the one that I'd started with and that meant that I had other sonoma's county old wines of darn good. Yeah. That I said, okay. I've got to do something with this. So I. I blended into a composite blend called it's getting old line that became sort of the mid tier price so the eighteen to twenty two dollar category. Ultimately, and you know, is making probably eight to ten thousand cases of that one. And then I had my single vineyard designates, which I still make today which run between eight hundred and fifty nine cases, you guys kind of set a model for how to the hit all the price points. So what you find out when you go to big organization light constellation as they do huge amount of market research. Ultimately, it's all about shelf presence. And so if you have one you get one skew, and if you have to one she might get to skews, and if you make cabernet, Chardonnay and merlot and Pinot Noir, if you make all those varieties, then you have many more facings associated with or if you do single dinner designated wines, I make seven of them, but they may carry three which is like. Better than you do otherwise. So numbers of skews is important in terms of shell presence and visibility. And visibility sells one you were in charge of all the winds for consolation for a while. Right. Well, it wasn't in charge of all the ones. I ended up being given a position when they bought ravens would of a senior VP which is about as high as you get in constellation without being a family member. And. You know? So I was part of the winemaking process. But as they move forward, they got bigger, and they started consolidating why make an didn't make any sense to put me as production team. So they put me in the marketing team, which was kind of an interesting phenomena. But it didn't mean that I couldn't be part of production. Because I was the, you know, when you're in a big organization, the marketing group dictates flavor profiles because they do a lot of market research. I said that we need for sake of argument, we need a competitor for Pasig read. So we need to develop a wine that is like porting grams residual sugar this red and really dark, but somebody has to still proof this has to taste it and say, I'm so I got to do a lot of that kind of stuff was fascinating to see how they arrived at those decisions. So having seen that whole spectrum of the California wine scene. I just don't know a lot of people like you who've really seen that whole thing. Joe swan to constellation in production marketing. So what would your advice be to someone who was starting out today in the California wine business the way you started out? What would you say to that young person who's bootstrapping now? Go for it. It's still doable. It's probably harder. A lot more competition out there. But you don't have to have the monument to people's ego. Ultimately, I didn't have a real wine rental nineteen Ninety-one. I bought the Heywood winery. Even then, you know, we outgrew that almost instantaneously then I had to build a a million case facility to handle interest blend. But I'd say go for it. You know, I certainly supported Morgan in his endeavor do that. I mean, what you're getting into don't go into a totally blind. I mean, I had a very good grounding and. How why was supposed to taste, and it tasted some of the great wines of the world. But you know, they're warehouses you can set up. I mean, you think people like 'inconnue, and you can do it. Now, it's not easy, and you may have to work a second job. So what if I was a young guy who decided he wanted to go into the business and make money? What would you advise me to do? Would it be to buy land or to make wine or? Why wouldn't buy land plan is the death knell for wineries, don't do it until you've got serious cash flow going? I would say that we have an opportunity currently that we haven't had and that's called direct shipment and direct to consumer. It means that you make eighty cents on every dollar instead of making fifty cents on every dollar. So I would say be really wise about the choices of the way you sell line. Do everything you can to sell direct to consumer. Choose your accounts wisely of you're lucky enough to be in California. You can sell director accounts going to have to more footwork be prepared to work, really hard. But you can make money in this business now in ways you couldn't before but I still wouldn't start out big. I mean consider the competition that's out there. If you start out with ten thousand cases, you're dead in the water, you're going to sell three of those. Maybe if you're really lucky easily and. The rest of it's going to be a slog, and you're gonna turn around for the next vintage, and you've got that next ten thousand cases on top of the six that are sitting in your warehouse at this point. So start out small Bill, build your accounts Bilger loyalties that is still a relationship business. Learn who the the people who are buying wine are and then the various stores that you have and get friendly with them spend time with them. So what do you think the real machine for the success of ravens would was in terms of the market? I think that the machine for ravens would work because it was a balanced item. We had all three tiers of price didn't have the really really expensive. But we are still considered a value even at the thirty five to thirty seven dollar bottle price for the single vineyard wines. I think that with vendors blend. It would have been a much harder slog. It was the right wine at the right time at the right price. Think about when I got in the line business. I mean you walk into a wine store, they might add twenty four selections. Of line wasn't sold in supermarkets unless it was a jug. And there was no, Costco. And there was no big Alice certainly wine world and the rest of the guys out there who do these gigantic warehouses didn't exist was very different place than it is now, and I happen to be in the right place. The right time with vendors splint. I ended up with exactly the right wine for the market when the sixty minutes came out and people are looking for red wine. That is good that is a price that they can afford the big chains or coming into business. And they want a recognizable brand, although they'll tell you brand doesn't make any difference doubt. But those days that made a huge difference. If you had a name it helped the idea of ravens would the logo of it was memorable. It was something that stuck in your mind. Like, oh, the one with the bird. Yes. Definitely the no winds saying helped us a lot and the logo itself which was designed. But. Land's going says a Barry poster artist of some note, but it turns out that that logo has attracted a lot of people. It's the most tattooed logo in the wind doesn't seen well over one hundred tattoos. That's just one guy. Yeah. One guy. I've seen. A woman in Texas named misty who had tattooed around her belly button, orange and green which was pretty amazing. I was at a tasting in snow county. It was a tuxedo taste of a harvest festival, and I just wanna big award and people are streaming up to my table. And this young woman comes up to the table. And she says so you the ravens would owner. I said, yeah, she said something I'm gonna show you said, really? And she proceeds to drop trowel right there in the middle of the crowd. And she says if you ever seen anything like this, and she points to her very close to the working parts, and I go. Yeah. No. And ravens logo was tattooed on her inner thigh. I went, oh, this is crazy. And she said, well, she's my boyfriend's tattoo artists, and he was out to dinner with me and had a bottle your wine. And she said I just love the label. It was so naturalistic I told him that. That's what I wanted for my tattoo. So I go home and say much about it and not much later newspaper article shows up the headline banner is tattoos his body art with this woman's by yellow bikini on the front page, and my wife, basically says, you know, this woman if you ever seen this tattoo why she have your logo on her enter by now really there are no right answers to any of those questions. It turns out a tattoo artist will frequently do a tattoo for somebody. And then they will put it into their tattoo book for tattoos that they've done so show it so people will go through and say, I really like that I'm going to have that. So sometimes they'll get the tattoo without knowing. It's the Rams lug up. But for the most part, they do must be shocking to them when they go to Cosco. See there to a lot of rap songs in the nineties. I didn't realize they were samples from the seventies. You know what I mean? And then I would hear the original. Wait a second. Diana ross. So I think one of the things that you really had an amazing perspective on over, of course, careers, some of the great vineyards of California for zinfandel and other feel blends, and what would some of those be? I mean, you already talked about old hill until Eski. But are there others really come to mind? They're definitely others. You know, many of the old wine vineyards said exist exist because they were so good that they didn't get pulled out. Even though there sometimes was weak market for those grapes. And the ones that remained were the ones who are kind of planted in the best and most amazing location. So I could run down a list or several so at the top that list is probably meant to Rosa a witches of those planet in the late. Eighteen hundreds spy Emmanuel Goldstein who had a store in San Francisco where he wanted to sell one. I can't even imagine like up on this hills fourteen hundred feet elevation above the snow valley in this beautiful red soil heads Montaza, and it's. Got honestly amazing. I'm no- nobody who has ever made a bad wine out of that. The lines are like hydra. They're amazing. The clusters unexpectedly large house say this isn't gonna make very good wine. But turns out that totally full j just below that down in the valley is vineyard the Morgan I on which has bedrock which was the old Madryn vineyard, which has been around for a very long time in eighteen eighty eight planting that's a Knicks vineyard and Monterey. So has these really high toned flavors just a little bit of orange blossom in them in a spicy tone? Ed rock has more base notes. But it's also got this baking spice character on this like long drawn out tannin that is almost like a northern talion might have. And then of course, we talked about old hill, which is a totally bre marketable and unique vineyard eighteen eighty five planning very mixed. Try farm rife arming is practiced in most of these vendors, which is really important. And if you move up cinema value run into Ghani, which is clearly I mean, anybody who's ever had Connie finds it memorable a fair amount Alicante, and they're so it really demand your attention in terms of the color and the kind of big berry flavors. There's then you're eighteen sixty nine which is Amador county. Which is what we used to know is ground pair grandpar-. The name has gotten sort of bastardized with people planting young vineyards using grandpar- would and calling ground pair. But there isn't a vineyard is now called eighteen sixty nine and Scott Harvey makes it and it produces such completely precise. Islip. Pristine Amador county wine that is like you just have to say, okay. If there is a first growth vineyard in Amador county. This is it because it's emblematic of what can be done there when it's done. Well, then there's contra Costa county and the Vangelis vineyard in contrast county, which everybody who's ever used. It has made a remarkable wine salt planted in these deep sandy soils on its own routes. And so you get a uniqueness about whether the uniqueness has do the sand or whether it's the roots who knows so those are some of the vendors continue to produce. And I'm talking we want to go to cavern as all thing, but that's a more recent development, but I tend to look back more often than I look forward in part because this is the vines I've worked with for very longtime. That's a diverse set of vineyards in different parts of California with different soil types and different exposures. But do you see common? -ality to what makes a great zinfandel and friends vineyard the thing about symphony hall is that I like to refer to it as a chameleon grape. It tends to adapt very nicely. Which is probably why was very popular in California. And it's adapted by the secondary grapes that are planted with it. So you can adjust the blend within your vineyard to make it perfect for the location. So a great symphony vineyard is totally about the place that comes from it has balance it tends not to get over. Right. Because you lose the character of the vineyard and the place it holds its color and it holds its city. Really? Well, and not only does it taste good and has fruit is very definitive early. But it's also got some secondary. Spice characteristics associated with it. And it will evolve with time. So if you taste it when it's ten or fifteen or twenty years old, you're still going. Wow. It has the while factor. What do you think about where's infantile is today? You said it's the chameleon grape in terms of site. But it seems like it's been the chameleon grape in terms of the market to you were one of the founders of Zab, and you've been very societas with zinfandel. And as I mentioned, probably most people's first is inventory was one of yours. And so what do you think about zinn today? I think zinn for awhile lost its way. Although is less way several times I keep a framed article on my office wall article written by Frank prowl in nineteen seventy three and the title is symphony L, beloved, no more. So we've had several ups and downs symphony. And you have the rage grapes had come through some merlot was the. Reg, gave for a while until fell apart because of a movie and Pinot noirs grape now and cabernet is done that in terms of reds and zinfandel is kind of always been there. It's been the stalwart. It's always been there to service, California in good times and bad. Whether that was the crash of late eighteen hundreds or whether that was prohibition. So it it will continue to be there. And I think that what's happening right now is different in the world infidel because you have a number of really talented young winemakers and Morgan and Mike officer would be happy. If I called him, a young, Mick Teagan, and others who really have adopted this grape and her doing really remarkable things with it. And they're selling more of those wines on lines. If you look at the latest data, the fastest growing grape online at the moment is simple. So I think that the quality of the wines has gotten better we kinda lost the way like in the early nineties Turley actually produced a line that was hindered. I believe it was the nineteen ninety four vintage that was probably sixteen percent alcohol and had some residual sugar. And I'm not sure that was the one they intended to produce. But Parker went completely ballistic for it. And a lot of people said, wow. This is the way you get high scores zinfandel, we can go there and a lot of people did. So you had the whole Rosenthal on resolu- made very majored wine, and then suddenly discovered this whole lush overripe slider residual sugar wine. And so we ended up with a lot of wines with you know, Heikal hall and residual sugar. And that isn't everybody's Cup of tea, and it's been fascinating to see the sweet red blend phenomena come on because they've actually stolen a lot of that part of the. Infidel market positions now being filled by the red blends. So I think simple is actually on a really nice trajectory them, maybe back to that kind of idea of Joe swan and ridge who began making some Fennell like we're gonna make something else and turned out to be respected and done beautifully, and you have understanding vineyard practices more than we've ever understood. So a lot is vendors are coming into hands of people like myself Morgan who, you know, are organically farm them. We're doing a whole cropping system property system that bills soil and maintains the moisture which allows the vines to access more water during their growing season. Because some of these vendors have been farmed for over one hundred years and been beaten up over the years pretty seriously. So the soils are not in great shape. So putting compost back in them were planning barley and knocking down. So it covers. Ground clove between the rows. So we don't have to use a lot of herbicides between the rows and that kind of stuff. So we're really kind of like reimagining the way you can farm lease and truly understanding more about how head pruned dry farm. Vines work does that imply certain labor costs for head trained. Yeah. I think it's it's true. It's very hard to make money farming. I mean, so if you look at bedrock we affectively break, even with the farming. You don't make money at the farming of grapes. You make money in the winemaking end of the grapes, particularly with direct sales. You are just a vineyard grower and your growing low production old wines. Yeah, it's very hard. It's not that you can't do it. But it's very difficult. So you're in your seventies now. But you recently start a new project last year's called once and future wines. I like to say once I had a little library in the future. I'm going to have a winery because I Alta never ended up with a winery. I would have I actually imagined. I would have three to ten thousand case winery. Maybe if I was really lucky I I would make only single designated wines from vineyards that were really important to me. And we're really interesting to me, and I would make them in the simplest, most, direct fashion. That would give me the best representation of that particular place that I could get so really what I've done is. I've gone back to once, you know, and I resurrected my Redwood from enters I retired from ravens wooden two thousand and two and I put them on the back of trucks, and I took them in the Morgan's winery. And when I drove up the trucks looked at me, and he looked at the for matters. And he said, well, I see you got the band back together. So this time around you're making single varietal wines that are not zen. So you have petite, Sarah. Yeah. The teacher I to work with as a vineyard called Palisades, which is the north end of the Napa Valley of often said that Napa would be a better. A place to grow up. It's rather than it is for cabernet in the early sixties, the most planet grape and Napa Valley was petite Serov, you taste things. Like Turley Hain. It's an amazing wine. Take some of the ones that Bobby Bialy makes from but it's right? Anapa amazing. So this particular vineyard was injured. It's a throwback to enter the planet nicotine eighties by the Barbara's family, their son replanted, the vineyard in the early seventies nineteen seventy-two, but he used the same spacing and head pruning and dry farming. So as organically farmed dry farmed vineyards just below the Palisades massive and produces these beautifully stylish petite size. You know, sometimes are just rip your mouth out just like tanning controls impossible, even but this vineyard is totally balanced. I love working with a big as it really makes me look like a winemaker transpire hands deep purple. And then there's the whole dynamic in the fermenters, and yes, but teacher are like heaves differently than. Mataro or more. And you're constantly kind of adjusting your expectations based on what's happening in the for mentor. And then you have to just your expectations in terms of the kind of. Okay, news on us more sometimes use less sometimes one barrel maker, something Hughes, another because the compatibilities and least in terms of your own artistic mental set because it really is an academic artistic endeavor at the end of the day. Yes, science involved, and that's Thurs, man. Really good stead over the years. But having said that. I would say that a Cosso was a great artist. But he was also an amazing technician and science because he made his own paints and a CASA would not be Picasso. If it wasn't for the kind of paint city used in the vibrant colors used, you know, those weren't off the shelf those were like things that he actually made as kind of like the grapes, you know, and then he put them together. And that's the project the winemaker Joel Peterson wants dramatic color, whether it'd be paints or red zinfandel. Thank you very much of being here today. My pleasure. Thank you so much for having me Joe Peterson the founder and winemaker at ravens wood. And then also the founder and winemaker at once and future wines. Are you ready to advance your wind business career to the next level? Then it's time to explore sonoma's state university's wind business programs and become one of their successful alumni, Amy Chang was an architect living in New York City with her husband and toddler when she decided to follow her passion for. Wine and develop our family's property in Napa Valley. She knew that building a new winery was a risky proposition. 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Un-American Lies #466

Thank God I'm Atheist

1:13:51 hr | 11 months ago

Un-American Lies #466

"Every buddy tie guys well from gorgeous salt lake city utah. It's think i'm atheist. The podcast i'm frank feldman and i'm dan beecher and coming up on the show. Today we needed to talk to voice of reason. So we brought Andrew site. Del on of the three from religion foundation. These are super. Smarty pants is what he has met a lovely conversations. Yeah so that. That's that's wonderful. That's coming up on the second. Yeah not to be missed an end in before we get to that. of course. we talk a lot about the news and dan. I guess we probably set some context here for like where we're at this moment it. We're recording on thursday. Remember thursday to you. It will feel like it was six months ago. Golly yeah currently we cannot talk about. Who won the presidential election here in the united states. Because really hope that by saturday. This is just resolved it may not be it may not. This could be a months long thing kind of depends on how things shake out in a few of the states here but hopefully we had a sense of it so if anything seems sort of like we're like we don't know yet it's because we don't know if we're missing anything from the show just shut up you know things we know. We don't know yet. Same problem here but one thing that we do know dan and honestly truly was. I mean there was this whole presidential election thing the us i remember that was happening This this week. But the thing that i was really tuning into two election coverage for was to find out what happened in mississippi with remarks this was a we talked about this like quite a lot on the show as as during I guess it was really in the wake of george floyd His his murder By the hands of the police Caused a discussion In mississippi because of all the protests that were happening in the discussion around race that we've been having it turns out. Racism is kind of bad. Yeah and so. Somebody told mississippi about it. The the good folks down in mississippi decided that it was time to maybe address the that their state flag was the the confederate battle flag. Eight simple yes and so they. They moved fairly quickly to Remove the flag from state buildings. I guess maybe not as quickly as they could have or should have actually. They should have done this a long time ago. So there's that but then they got it onto the ballot this year to approve a new design for for the state flag and we went through a little bit of a process. They actually had thousands of entries From the hel held with statewide Contests to redesign the flag. Only two rules as i recall. Yeah there will had to have the phrase in god we trust on. Yeah and i actually. What the other. I don't remember what the other rule no confederate flags. The confederate flag had to go to not have the confederate flag. And you have to say jesus. Yeah which is really disappointing but it. They went through a nine person commission to Kind of narrow down the choices they picked a flag that features The state flower and it actually is not horrible It's actually not a bad looking flag that they settled on. There's no right. Obviously the in god we trust that. Is brian matic. And then there There's like a ring of stars so ring of stars and the phrase in god we trust. That's around this Magnolia that's in the center of the flag and to be honest. I would just submit that entire circle thing and just make the magnolia just slightly bigger and i think they landed on they would have landed on a gorgeous design Or at least a very nice design and Vechta logically it's not bad. Yeah could be worse. It could be way worse. Salt lake city just adopted a flag. That i'm not super big fan of But it follows all the excellent logical rules and but anyway Yeah so the and it passed by pretty good margin this whole thing. Which i don't know i don't know if the the thing was Adopted new flag or go back to the old one. I don't know what would happen at. This thing failed but nonetheless it was is a lot of the large majority of the state approved. And i think that's a really good sign from mississippi they were the last state to have The the confederates flag as part of their flag. Miss georgia got rid of their problematic flag in two thousand one And so yeah. It'd been quite a while mississippi but you got on the good side of this in one way and then you fucked it up in another. So yeah well. That's a. that's a fight for another time. I guess we'll We'll work on that. One i to be honest. I'm i'm so happy that the the stars and bars are gone from flag. The there's this this there. I'm annoyed by the in god. We trust but it feels like it's like on our money and it's like we just need to solve the problem across the board in country with that phrase and so it it offends me far less than that fucking racist flag offended. This is search a huge improvement like so much better. So i'm I'm down with it. i'm not gonna be mad about it. and slightly mad about it but nobody's driving and and and thinking about you know their relatives being lynched or whatever so concerned that's an vast improvement. Yeah there you go know. Talk a little bit about We'll talk later in the show with andrew sidell about the supreme court Our current supreme court which Now that amy coney barrett is a member of is basically a a theological nightmare. It is it. it's majority catholic and majority people who think that they should put their faith above the law. Which is ugly and one of the first things That we've gotten to see this court look at is a is a a case called fulton vs pennsylvania. Sorry philadelphia fulton vs philadelphia and. This is a case which basically is going to go badly. The crux of the case. Is that a group called catholics. Social services Which does adoptions Basically didn't want to give children to gay couples. They are ugly like that. And so the city of philadelphia. We're going to stop funding you. Then because we don't like when you're discriminatory and they said but we do like when we're discriminatory and now you're discriminating against us for discriminating. And that's what's gonna hit. That's what hit the court or this week We won't have an You know a ruling for a minute but it's not gonna be good As anderson told us off the air. amy kuney barrett managed to bring up abortion indicates about adoption. Jesus how the fuck did she do that. She is she. She's really good right. that's how she did it. I'm pretty sure that the only way she can orgasm at. This point is to say the word adoption or abortion rather than right at the moment. Oh she's a she's got an for it is is is what we're saying anyway. So that's That's that's a fun little thing we will watch it play out but fully expect that You know with sixty six percent of our justices being conservative catholics. It's not gonna be good. So you're saying i should go adopt right now. I'm saying yeah they're there. I mean actually. I should just stop being gay right now. I think that's the you know what we haven't done by the way what's that. I'm going to interrupt. I'm interrupting our news. Section of highly irregular dan. I am rules your bryant all the rules because we need to talk about something. Which is that before this crazy. Supreme court overturns berga fell and takes away the rights of gay people to marry each other What have you done. Glenn i got married. You went out and got married. Congratulations thank you. That's amazing amazing. People do it every day. it's not hard. No it was shockingly not hard like super easy but we made a lot easier for ourselves by driving over to colorado has the easiest easiest way or a process to get married. Yeah so if you're looking for an elopement. Oh my friends totally. No yeah it was. It was super duper easy. You don't need witnesses. You don't have to have an officiant t just sign and you're done so yeah it was it was it was wedding nice little weekend i love it and we got married Yeah so so. If if they if they do overturn a bird fell they'll have to deal with your marriage. Oh yeah and you know. That's you know they would have a lot of other ones to deal with and figuring out how they're going to handle that but Or how they would handle that. Hopefully it never comes to that. But yeah they'll have to deal with with with me now. So yeah well and and if you want to adopt. Don't go to a catholic agency as a matter of fact. Hey everybody if you want to adopt. Don't go to a catholic agency. Yeah absolutely if you can if you can avoid it. I mean they do best babies but best the really like oh. Have you have taken your shopping. Cart down the aisle cataloged. You'll know it's cove it. I ordered short And it's just wow. They've got all of them. Every every my god. I was about to make every flavor every phone all right dan. Well congrats thank you on your. Yeah i have a story here. Dan out kind of a little bit of a stake. -cation typed idea. There's this trend right now. that's happening. I had not heard of this but they're called flights to know. Where have you heard of this. No lights to nowhere. It's they're being offered all over the place as a means to give the local airline industry a little bit of business and a take off from your local airport and you land at your local airport. You get all the excitement of international travel without actually going anywhere. Wow it's jet-setting Without any Greater purpose the australia there was a seven hour flight that was offered over some of the country's most iconic landmarks. It sold out in ten minutes. Dan what in hong kong there was a seventy five minute flight. That they were offering the Circles the travelers around their home city. Right so that you can snap shots of hong kong right just right there. You're on a plane. Go get all these pictures of hong kong. It's awesome sangelee the inflight drink service is up and running. That would yes. That would be better. Be right. It's basically a party bus in the sky. Yeah singapore's tourism. Board has announced a couple cruises to nowhere zero port of calls or ports of call and will operate at half capacity. Its cove it. You know you wanna take a cruise. You still want to get on a disease ridden vote. You know he's ever gotten sick on a cruise before it's going to be one of those moments. Where they're like there were no incidences of covert we all have dysentery though. So there's a good news bad news thing. We'll thai airways has announced their flight to nowhere. They are calling the taibbi magical flying experience. They sing songs from eleven to you. While you're doing it they're gonna fly over. Some of thailand's holiest buddhist. Religious sites and passengers will be reciting mantras all along the way. Oh they have employed the services of dr cha ching john. Who is a celebrity fortuneteller. And and he's gonna be leading the in flight chanting and and you thought sitting next to a toddler sucks. It's going to be a three hour flight. they're going to cover ninety. Nine sacred sites They list off a handful of them. And i'm just like. I don't know what any of those are. i mean. maybe some of our listeners. Would there's some unesco sort of world heritage sites on the list. You know you've seen pictures of thailand. You've been there. You've probably seen a picture. You'll like thirty. Five thousand feet is like the optimal viewing distance. No no no there. What do they call it when you're buzzed the airfield. Or whenever they're they're flying low on this Negative ghostwriter the pattern is full. I mean i don't know maybe they are flying high and the whole point. Is that the point clearly with this. One is not so much seeing it up close and from like the the hong kong flight. It's clear they're like you know using like approach patterns and whatnot probably getting close to the to the city and and to see the skyline and everything With this i think the point is to be over these sites while while chanting. You know This that's how the magic happens because that's yes the magical flying experience calling it magical. Gosh i guess it's something to do. Sure sure if you're into such this chap yourself in a two with a bunch of other infected people would. I will say this. I want took a sightseeing plane. Ride over canyon lands national park here in utah. Yeah it's the only it's the best way to see that part foreshore. You weren't in a seven forty seven that's giant airbus threes. Whatever you know. No like your. Yeah you're that that's a much better tourism. That's designed for that purpose. Yeah definitely was like yeah. Okay well have fun. Everybody go fly to your own house I this is a less fun story. I'm going to take us to michigan in the grand rapids area where unfortunately election day was was was. I mean look. I don't know about everybody else. I was expecting atrocities election day and throughout this election season. And i haven't been disappointed. They've been out there. People been getting. They're getting you know getting all shook up. I'm really glad actually that this that the the election results are being drawn out because if they had been announced night of would have been riots. I'm sure yeah long drawn out process. It's harder to get real real riot riled up about but apparently in anticipation of election night. Some assholes decided asshole or assholes decided that they would go to the Of of of us israel cemetery now only had to take three runs at it In order to vandalize headstones g with the were with the word trump and maga in red spray paint. So it's a look for them you know. Yeah exactly. I considered trying to trick you until and say that the story was about some leftists writing spray painting biden on. Somebody's gravesites but i didn't think you know it's just to see if you believe it but it doesn't sound anywhere near as believable as trump being spray painted on a religious Headstones yeah which says something say what it says but it says something say what it says. Oh that trump supporters are bigoted assholes. Go it does. It definitely says that or at least aligned with bigoted assholes right. Yeah exactly you may not be or think of yourself if you are a trump supporter as a bigot as a As a horrible racist Awful person but guess what side you chose. that's the one anyway so So once again they decided to prove to the world who they are and that's a surprise to almost zero people but it's still wildly disappointing. Yeah dan i don't know if this will lift everybody's spirits or not. But last week we had a guest on the show andrew gold and we spoke about exorcisms right and and one of the things that i believe. I remember coming up in. The conversation was the fact that exorcisms are on the rise. Right that this is. This is the lakers in new hot trend. right that that is just sweeping the world. Really gonna save the world get demon actually came across a story about a couple of exorcisms that happened very recently here in this country. Dan the first one. That's mentioned in. The article is took place in portland oregon Where archbishop alexander sample led procession of more than two hundred people to a city park This was just a few weeks ago. to conduct an exercises them ceremony in latin with the purpose of pershing their community of evil. So it wasn't it wasn't just a person. They were exercising the entire damned city. Oh yeah because you know have been the the the the black lives matter protests for racial justice That we're you know mostly peaceful but there were you know there was a little bit of violence and riots and whatnot. You know when you tell when you when you when you say hey police. Why don't you stop being brutal. Yeah they like to get bertel exactly and that's a and thank you for for making sure that that's that's a where the real problem right But you know he this archbishop He had to clear out the get rid of the the the bad vibes that we're going to work. I don't know. I haven't heard about violence in portland for minimal. Yeah okay well. Maybe it did. And coincidentally on the very same day. san francisco archbishop Salvator quarter leoni Performed an exorcism outside of the catholic church and san rafael where protesters had toppled a statue of father. Juna perot sarah or sara who. I had to look up. I didn't know who he was. Apparently he was an eighteenth century. Spanish missionary who. Of course the catholics. Love because he converted a lot of people but those people were native americans and they were forced to do. So yeah converted. I'm pretty sure you mean. And slave and entrapped and quarter leoni also performed his extra schism in latin with the saying that the reason for that was because latin tends to be more effective against the devil because he doesn't like the language richer sorrow. There's that dan dan game. They're the article. Mentions the existence of the united states conference of catholic bishops. And the fact that they have qna on their website about exorcisms and so. I went to this. Dan and i i actually like i was just kinda scrolling through and it turned out that it was this extensive one-page there are so many questions with answers about exorcisms that i printed the whole thing out it's twelve printed pages and i ran through it this afternoon and i just wanted to like bring up some of the things because like i don't know like i think you know there's the movie the exorcist right and these like exorcisms happen and you go well. This is really fringe right this this this this fringe activity. This is not at the heart of catholicism. Catholics don't believe that strongly in this absolutely crazy idea right turns out no they really fucking do and they have a q. And a. page about exes them and the first the first question. I wanna go through is. Why does the catholic why does the church need exorcisms and they according to the bishops there instances when a person needs to be protected against the power of the devil or do we withdrawn from his spiritual dominion. At such times the church asks publicly in authoritatively in the name of jesus christ for this protection or liberation through use of exorcism and it goes through and it starts talking about different kinds of exorcism. And actually there's sort of major and minor forms of exorcism and they say that minor exorcism is actually performed in preparation for baptism. Like nobody even like thinks about it right like the. It's part of the the ceremony is that they really yes. And it's not so minor exorcism is not about casting out a demon. It's about sort of blessing. The person to be protected from and to rid evil from their life right. You got to flush the pipe. Yeah you just got cleared out. You're probably not possessed. We don't need the major exercises them. Which is actually the casting out of the devil right so it's so another question winning. How is an afflicted member of the faithful referred to an exorcist. says in it is advisable the every diocese establish a protocol to respond to inquiries made by the faithful claimed to be demonic afflicted as part of the protocol an assessment should occur to determine the true state of the person only after a thorough examination including medical psychological and psychiatric testing. Might the person be referred to the exorcist for a final determination regarding demonic possession. Yes please leave this to the experts. Right this is gotta be. Look if if you're just self diagnosing you're just going to web md for demons demons Don't know if you really have. You gotta get you gotta get a pro in there to tell you if there's a real demon in you or your you know making it up right talks about major exorcism. It says the right of major exorcism is employed. Only when there's a case of demonic possession namely when it is determined that the presence of the devil is in the body of the possessed and the devil is able to exercise dominion over the body And then there's some really practical questions like how does a priest become an exorcist oppress maybe appointed to the office of exorcist either on a stable basis or for a particular occasion by the dice. Diocesan bishop and either case the exorcist should work closely with an under the direction of the bishop. Howard exorcists trained and prepared for this ministry classically the exorcist has trained for the specialized ministry through an apprenticeship model working under the direction of an experienced exorcist. I'm a classically trained. Just i don't know what your training is. I'm classic tremendously absurd. And if you'll indulge me slightly more what what. Ritual symbols are used an extra systems. And what do they symbolize. Oh my god this. I'm going to read it. It says across. I'm going to be so mad. It says in addition to the use of the psalms and gospel readings and the recitation of the exorcist. Prayers right a series of sacred symbols is utilized in the right of major exorcism. To begin water is blessed and sprinkled recalling the centrality of the new life the afflicted person received in baptism and the ultimate defeat of the devil through the salvatore sal vic work of jesus christ salvator south got words the imposition of hands as well as the breathing on the person's face by the exorcist. You know which is called x. exa flation. Oh wow reaffirms. The power of the holy spirit at work in the person as a result of his or her baptism confirming in him or her as confirming him or her as a temple of god. Finally the lord's crossed his shown to the afflicted person and the sign of the cross has made over him or her demonstrating the power of christ over the devil. So basically yes the exorcist right lake washington more called and then like just it goes on and on and on like this is no small issue right. Okay there it's not happening all the time it's not like it's a a a ritual that that every catholic has seen performed. It's happening all the time here right. It's happening all the time and other partner. I guess that's true. And then one last question i love. This should other members of the faithful be present when an exorcism is performed and says this text strongly recommends against the exorcist working in isolation even though in rare instances may be unavoidable. The practice of performing an exorcism in solitude should discouraged at all costs. Yeah because anytime a priest is alone in a room with a person could go. Badly cannot be unsupervised action. It'd be there a rule. My god all right well. Somebody should exercise the demons out of this show. But i don't know who to call all right. I'm gonna i'm gonna close out with a an opportunity i'm going to call it an opportunity for shoddy and freud. Now if you folks out there are not a pros as we are taking delight in the misery and sadness of others. I really can't recommend it enough. Do it do it. Ethically do kindly. I'm going to tell us the story of Irvin baxter okay who He has a easy. He's been a minister for a long damn time and And very much a sort of end times preacher and he gave us a really good explanation on the on the the john the jim bakker show about why covert was here And basically his explanation is that god was real real mad that people be fucking he went into some stats. He dug into some stats and discovered that seven point. Five million couples that means fifteen million people are living together unmarried in these united states. Just here and he learned any. He really hoped that this was not true. That fi only five percent of new brides in america are virgins. Oh so sad. Oh he had. He obviously didn't care about husbands because boys don't count. So so fornication was his big reason why god had a unleashed this virus on our land Apparently not noticing that the rest of the world also got the virus anyway Recently it was announced that he was infected with this virus and unfortunately being a seventy five year old fat guy. He has succumbed to all. Also i guess. I mean unless god's which always was foreign acatan right isn't that isn't that the conclusions because i here's the thing god desperately needs to work on his messaging. I mean if you're mad about sex sent an s. t. d. or something. Don't send a a you know a disease that's gonna kill your grandma. Yeah you you you send disease. Killing the young folks who are out there fucking. I don't god mysterious ways. Dan yes and unfortunately we have one fewer pastors to tell us all the mounted god. I thought you were going to bring up rick joyner. What about rick joyner. Well you know he said that you know all you have to do is pray and you won't get code. And then he got co ed. I didn't know rick joyner. Would you would you sort of because listeners. Don't we don't really tell each other too much about what we're going to be talking about right now. So when when you just gave me the little quick line to kind of like tease it for me to make sure i wasn't. I didn't have the same story or something similar I thought you were going to bring up rick joyner. Oh i'm so happy that rick joyner has it. We got quite a bit on the show. You don't recognize the name. Yeah but he's he's a a real treat He's he's yeah so you so. Suddenly i'm feeling much better about the spikes covert activities. So you guys all of you listeners. At home don't be part. heap yourself. Say it is getting so so bad especially here in the united states kidding. So wear your masks. Don't go out of you don't have to keep yourself safe so that the only people were reporting on our these christian assholes the ding dongs. Who just refuse yeah. I know If you'd like to talk to us if you want to chide me for taking pleasure in the death of other people you can do that. You can write into us. Podcast thank god. I made the as dot com or call. It leaves a voicemail message. The telephone number is four two four six six six eight four four to stick around guys. There is more show coming right up. Hey frank dan. After that last segment. I looked up. Rick joyner's facebook account and read and read his pinned post about how gratefully is for. Everybody's prayers that he had cove it because i'm just literally so happy that he has covid and i just want everyone to have an update. It's really hurting is it. He feels awful. And i couldn't be happier. I am a terrible person. I know but but yeah he. Apparently a few days ago. Walking was like walking across the room was like climbing mount everest. He said he's an older guy. So there you know. I guess i guess. Trump wasn't sharing his miracle drugs with them drug hoarder. Yeah trump e. He got the best of it. Didn't he yeah experimental drugs. That aren't approved. Everybody else to use are really apparently quite promising. And yeah some some some powerful what do you call them. Steroids that apparently make you feel like you're invincible. He probably took some serious risks in treatment. Right yeah but unfortunately they. They didn't pan out in the way we would have helped. Oh golly golly. Well dan we We need to listen to some audience here right. We have some little break or audio break. We need a ps so we Look at the One of trump's most trusted spiritual advisers. At least if you ask. Her is paula white. And she is. She has been really trying to battle the demons of the of the of the country to make sure that trump remains in power. Yeah and i'm gonna play this clip. There are a couple clubs. We had to choose between what i want you to imagine as you listen to her in her insanity as she as she talks is because this is true. There's just a dude walking behind her every now and then holding a book. he's just in t shirt and jeans. No jeans dan. He's like in shorts like he's short. It's like he was games all morning and then decided to get up and walk around like it's like he's like he like she's his mom and she's doing her zoom call into work and he's not even paying attention and he's just going back and forth to the kitchen to get more cocoa. It's except that she's amazing. The podium of church right yeah. She's she's at the podium. A very big church is just wondering occasionally back behind her anyway. We'll we'll play the audio. But i just need you to picture that while this is happening we break in divide every demonic confederacy against the election against america against that who you have declared to be in the white house we break it up in the name of jesus we lose confusion into every demonic confederacy directive. Right now at this election director specifically at the six states we come against people that are working at high levels right now with demonic confederacies and secrecy and demonic plans had networks. We break it up and we command. It'd be exposed right now in the name of jesus my god the guy walking back and forth. I can't get over we'll we'll we'll tweet out this This video and and it'll be in the show notes. I think but honestly it's worth it you you guys gotta go check it out. I mean what she's doing is crazy enough and plenty for us to show to on this. Show 'cause doofus is walking around behind her. It's amazing i'm I'm so happy about it all right. Well we had some folks right into us i will. I will commence to reading them excellent. They're missives now visit from kathleen high franken. Dan regarding your recent comments about atheists in leadership roles. I just wanted to mention. Ernie chambers who has an openly atheist member of the nebraska state legislature. Nebraska is one of only tuesday that has split electoral votes. we know kathleen. We are intimately aware of nebraska's electoral. Very think foale. Yeah as i write this she continues a. We are still awaiting the final electoral tally. One of nebraska's electoral votes has gone to joe biden. Yep nebraska. Republicans attempted to do away with the state's split electoral vote system a few years back but ernie chambers was instrumental in keeping it. Chambers isn't eccentric and fascinating character years ago he even filed a lawsuit against god. If you ever have space on your show. I think chambers is worth a mention. Well there you go. We mentioned it. So thanks kathleen for writing in. That's kind of amazing. Taylor wrote into us. Hello darling franken dear dan. I was listening to your spoon key. Halloween episode this morning and was struck by franks first story about which is on the rise in the us. Elia i am twenty five and a woman living in salt lake city and i've noticed quite a few women in my age group turning over to wicca or at least being quote which bitchy real quote my best. He grew up jewish but gave it up a a year or two ago. We never explicitly talked about our beliefs but she did mention dropping the whole kosher thing and nixing the extra holidays with their folks. I honestly thought she was an atheist. Until i realized when she until recently when she bought a tarot deck be has done a few readings for and i find it fun in the same way that i find horoscopes and fortunes from shinto shrines fund. You know without thinking too hard about it and maybe with little blasphemy in my heart. But today's she told me she has performed a spell to protect me during a minor surgery. I'm having tomorrow and that she thinks protection from the gods can't hurt anything. She also told me how her friends her friend thinks. One of the wiccan. Gods brought her spouse to her through divine intervention. thanks to a spell. She'd cast as well my friends. My friend refers to herself and her sister as he sisters but i always thought she was just messing around. Sounds like which is cray in utah. I just traded my passively. Jewish friend for preachy wicca. One it honestly feels like having a mormon friend the thoughts and prayers instead except instead of thoughts and prayers spells and smudging because taylor smudging. Golly they're worse things in the world than smudging. I cannot stand the smell of burnt satisfy. Just hate it. I forgot that you hate that smell. I don't mind the smell at all. I think it's ridiculous but yeah yeah that'll happen. I did. I tell you about the conversation. I had i went into the there's A store a witchy store here in salt lake city called. I think it's called krones hollow or something. Yeah i know where that's at. They went in there just to check it out a little while ago and her overheard the store I assume the owner talking to a patron about how about smudging and about how people just don't understand that like that is just the nuclear option. You don't wanna smudge it just clears everything out good good spirits and bad you don't wanna just smudge every because i just thought it was a it was a coma. That's great all right. this from lindsay lindsay writes. Hey guys i wanted to let you all know that. Here in alabama As gay atheists have taken trunk or treat Though we didn't do it this year because of covid we use it as an opportunity to allow kids to dress as they want as they want without judgment we may be sheltering them from the rest of the hatred here. It's okay to allow them to be kids a little bit longer. Okay i'm with you lindsey. I i like the idea of like a gay trunk or treat where you like. The kids can be whatever they want to be without other parents. Like getting judgy about making them feel bad. Did we say some anchor tree. Like i don't know i did. I hate trucker tree. It's evil i think i. I think it ruins the whole holiday. Oh probably i did say something about it with the with a purpose like that. I think that's great. Yeah i'm going to get a total pass because kids need to be able to like not fret if they want to gender bend a little bit or if they want to just have some fun with hall the holiday without people being dick's so all right. I'm going to give it a pass. We'll do we have anybody to think we do dan. We have a new patron on patriot. Fan who is coming in at the teacher level. Dan wonderful paul paul. Welcome lesson debut all. Well done you now. Have the ironic priesthood. How ironic lucky are you. And what paul did that. Everybody could do if they wanted to. He went on over to thank god. I mean theus dot com clicked on the support tab and followed all over to patriae and our campaign. So that's wonderful do. It's so simple if you liked the show. why not. You've got all that extra cash lying around just just give some of it to us doesn't hurt. I mean unless does in which case. Don't worry there's shows you're cool and then as always we have our top donor are lorden savior. Amazing thanks guys. Thanks frank yes dan. I know that we haven't been mentioning it the whole episode but there has been. There's an election and we still don't know the results. Yeah i was just gonna say. We are a couple days prior to the two to a couple days listeners. Know hopefully they know answer but another person doesn't currently know the answers but has a lot of other answers. Is one mr andrew del from the favor. One of our favorite organizations the freedom from religion foundation andrew. Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for having me on gentlemen always a pleasure. Yeah you are a constitutional lawyer. you're an author. You're a a man of the world and we need to have you on here we we. We wanna talk to you about a whole lot of different things first off. You're in wisconsin. Gay guys pulled it out. You managed to you in a squeaker. You manage to turn those. The state blew well done there. You have a beating heart at democracy up here in wisconsin. It's been interesting. Know i drove. I drove up kind of north in the state out into the country to go camping. A couple of weekends ago. right after the amy conybeare at fiasco finished and get like a little bit of a break and i was blown away by how many trump signs there were there So i knew. I was going to be closer than the double digit polls were suggesting Because because anecdotal evidence obviously is more important than data is much well. These days anything turns out it's true. Yeah good lord you so let's talk a little bit first of all about about you said you mentioned the conybeare thing these supreme court now people with a whole lot of catholics one with a very special like that added special sauce of her own little cult that she's a part of what are your thoughts. Are things everybody seems to be doomsaying. We're all go backwards. Everybody's rights are going to be taken away where you at. I mean that's accurate. Oh god i mean this is not a fair court. This is not an impartial court. This this is a catholic court. This is a republican court. Three of the justices on this court were on the team that litigated bush versus gore Rare kevin roberts alito is more conservative than all of them Thomas thomas has also more conservative than all of them and more conservative than lido in his wife is a grassy conservative who posts soro's memes on her facebook Gorsuch sits in a seat that was stolen for political reasons. I mean this. This court doesn't legitimacy problem. This court is illegitimate. It's a wing of the republican party. And it's making decisions like cavanaugh. Sit with this just just cavenaugh brett. Cana- beer is the median justice in terms of ideology on the supreme court. Don't wow i thought. Halloween was over. But now that's go so scary. Thought right there. Yeah i mean in. The lower courts are as bad. I mean this is something that really everybody needs to understand. Our courts are broken. They they're fucked and we have to unplug the courts. Yeah how does that work. Is there a path to doing it. Got a much narrower much more difficult path after this election I mean really you need you need a president and senate to be able to agree to do that and i don't think with the outcome of this election that We're gonna see that. It looks like it might hinge georgia special elections which as we are talking. Looks like there are going to be two special elections there. Yeah so you could get a fifty fifty chai with kamla harrison breaking the tie. Which would give you the opportunity to do that. You have to be old about going. Yeah in and just really striking out for serious. Judicial reform is the answer. Just putting twenty or thirty more people on the supreme court is a joke about that. I think that is is the way i think. The entire federal judiciary should double in size. And that's honestly that need to happen before this There's been a reluctance to expand the courts because For political reasons and now and trump of packed the courts I mean cases. Now take three or four sometimes. Five years to get to the f. and and that's wrong. I mean justice delayed is justice denied and we know what we needed to do something like that anyway and and there are. There are a lot of Proposals out there for fixing the court. Some of them say two justices some of them say for justice. I think we need i. There needs to be an a hesitate to use the word punitive to describe what needs to happen but right now. Mcconnell stopped everything to help pack the courts i mean. He did he everything. In the last. Two years of obama's administration held everything open and then packed it with trump. And and i mean they didn't pass covert relief in past the second code relief package because they were too busy spending their political capital jamming. Any conybeare on the court there needs to be future generations of lawmakers and legislators need to understand that. That doesn't pay that you don't get to do that. And risk the american public and our health and our safety and have the result. Come out the way you want. So i think. I think in fairness though i will say this in fairness to mcconnell if you dramatically shrink the population then it won't take as much time to get through. The court system is true. This is true I don't know if that that's where his heads up at your doesn't sound logic. So to me i mean that's that's just one small reasons to do another. Another reason is since two thousand six. I mean every court case on anything that people might call like a culture war type issue. has been directed at one justice. Anthony kennedy first. And then justice. John roberts lately until bear was on the cork and i mean that's wrong right like it shouldn't be that you know how those are going to come out so i mean i'm all for having a court with twenty one people who cares. There's no reason to had it limited to a small number of people. And if you wanna say well then you're just opening this up for like a tit for tat. And then when the republicans gain power they're going to do fine. Let them add another fifteen to the court and everybody's powers diluted anymore who cares what does it. What does it matter. why do. There's no special significance in having nine or eleven or thirteen members on the court. Let's yeah let's put as many on there as we can. Let let me put this. I don't think i've ever heard anybody pitching this idea. How about this to people on your shrinking soda. My are and kagan. And that's it. I mean i'm all for that fantastic. So the problem with that and the problem with the term limits solutions is in the constitution itself so article one of the constitution is congress and that's most of the document fifty two percent of the words document or congress. Article is the executive the presidency about twenty three percents of the words in the document dealing with that so that. That's three quarters of the documentary there. Those to the judiciary's article three and only about eight percent of the words in the entire document deal with what the federal judiciary is and should look like and one of the phrases in there. That is that. Is that joe. Judge's sit for during good behavior. And that's where we've interpreted the lifetime appointment to bear on the nord for life unless they do something wrong or they decide they want to retire. So if you're talking about like term limits you run into the language of the constitution itself and if you talk about justices from the core you run into the language of the constitution itself which says that they get to stay there during good behavior. You have a better argument in shrinking the court. Then you do for something like term limits. I don't as the reason i don't think term limits. Our solution is because then you get into the court itself deciding whether or not a term limit is constitutional. Right not going to say yes. It's constitutional we all of a sudden. Now don't have jobs in terminally lifetime. Appointments are actually a good idea. Are they are. I don't. I don't think i've heard people making that. Tell hit me with a good idea because it guarantees the independence of the judiciary and it. It insulates them in a way that you you wouldn't otherwise i mean. Imagine if you knew you were gonna sit on the court for ten years. And there's a decision like bush versus gore or trump versus by. That's gonna come up before you. You might be relying on getting a job when you leave on the outcome of that opinion and this is why it was structured that way when in the founding document it's meant to be in a check and balance it's meant to be a measure of judicial independence. The problem isn't that its lifetime appointments. It's that we're putting people on the court who are babies in terms of their spirits. Were forty two forty four forty eight years old and then there on the court for forty years because we're also living so much longer right. Yeah that's true. When that when that little document was written nobody was anticipating nonagenarian on the court and they were people who were getting on. The court were just significantly older. It was for the most part. It was the end of their legal. And it wasn't something that people wanted to do like the like the first few just chief justice. We're only on the court for like a couple of years. They didn't they didn't nobody wanted this job. It wasn't it. Didn't have really until arthur chief justice john marshall sort of asserted the power of the court in marbury versus madison. This wasn't a role that people thought was valuable or that or contributing that much to to the running of the government So different times. I mean it. it's like it's like you've studied. This constitution thing is little bit just a touch. I speaking of that. I wanna talk about your book. We wanted to have you on when it very first came out. It didn't work out Because you i don't know got super fucking busy but tell us about your book It it it's been you you've at least made waves Among the the the conservative christian community you've been burned. Yes yes. I've literally been burned made flames. I think might be a better way to say it. That's pretty exciting. So what was his name. I can never remember his name. Greg is that the one. Yes greg lock. Who's crazy conservative. Trumpian preacher at tennessee. He got into it a little bit on twitter about the freedom from religion. Foundation's ronald reagan ad that runs on tv. And i i don't remember how it exactly but i ended up saying like well. I'll send you a copy of my book and i wrote him a little inscription in the front of it was i mean it was meant to be cheeky but it was also many here and i sent him a copy and he posted a video. He got out blowtorch posted. A video Self lighting it on fire. I love it and he obviously didn't read the book. he did. Read the description on camera which well how would okay. So i don't wanna hear greg gridlock. Describe your book. But what is why. Don't you describe i mean. This is the founding myth why christian nationalism is unamerican. Exactly the the question that i'm asking really is do. We have a government of the people for the people by the people or is hours. The government of the christians for the christians vita of christians. Because i'm by jeez i mean this is. This is the battle that we are right now. We are. America is right desperate fight against christian nationalism and it's this political theology. That is this. It's an existential threat to our public. So that's why. I wrote the founding myth and i really wanted to do something different with the book. I wanted to go someplace new because christian nationalism. The idea right that we're founded as a christian nation that we're built on judeo christian principles. That's not a scholarly debate. And that's the way it's been treated it's Yeah you're that's true. I have seen that come up in in zones that it definitely doesn't belong. I've seen that. A claim be made in academia. Where where it shouldn't be taken seriously and mean it really is. It's not just the idea that we've strayed from our foundations and we have to get back to our godly roots. It's a sinister exclusionary movement and the goal is to redefine america. According to the christian nationalist identity and then to reshape our law accordingly and yeah in christian nationalism is the reason that donald trump is president. I mean the best predictor of a trump voter in two thousand sixteen was thinking that the united states was founded as a christian nation. Some of some of the early numbers. That i've been from this week suggests that christian nationalism played just as much of a role in this election as it didn't previous ones So what i wanted to do in the book was really assault and destroy this identity. Because it's it's built on this. These common lies and myths. That that we can you and everybody listening to this has heard time after time after time. That are one nation under god in god. We trust the declaration of independence. It references the christian god four times that the founders were all evangelical christians that they prayed at the constitutional convention that george washington knelt in the snow valley forge and prayed and that all of our laws are based on the ten commandments. All of those are wrong. What i know you know. And without that commonwealth of lies and myths their identity begins to wither and fade. And so that was really what i wanted to do in the book didn't wanna simply i didn't want to just another refutation of the idea that we're founded as a christian nation. I wanted to go deeper. I want to raise well. Okay so you want to go deeper. I get it but but let's be honest. When has christian nationalism ever gone wrong. Yeah yeah i mean. I mean good question. Let's let's just stick with the trump administration. I mean you've got the muslim that's that's that's christian. Nationalism writ large the child separate policy at the border ripping kids out of the loving arms of their parents and throwing them in cages Jeff sessions justified. That by studying the bible by citing romans did. I forgot that phrase it. He learned that in the white house. Bible study incidently romans. Thirteen was the same bible. Verse super-popular With preachers in britain. At the time that america was declaring its independence to say that we couldn't declare that independence. Now the bible let's see what else opposition to. Lgbtq equality Rights you know. All those kind of things are are. You can really trace back to christian. Nationalism it has roots and tendrils and fingers in so many different just evil republican pies. It's amazing yeah it. It's like nobody noticed. That hitler's belt buckles said government. Owns god is with us. It's like it's like. Nobody paid attention to the last time. Someone went christian nationalist. Yeah and and like hate stoking. the way. it's it doesn't go great when people do. It doesn't and this is something that kind of gets to the heart of the book. Guess the central question. I asked really is did judeo christian principles positively influence the founding of the united states. And the answer is no they didn't. We weren't founded on judeo christian principles and it's actually a good thing because s those principles and especially ones. That are central to christian nationalist. They're they're thoroughly opposed to the principles on which the united states was built. So that's the heart of the argument. I argue that. The two systems that america the founding american values and the values of christianity judeo-christianity they differ in conflict to such a degree that to put it bluntly christianity is unamerican. So yes the argument. That i make. It's a new argument. It's not one that people who've heard america will never be a christian nation because the moment it becomes a christian nation it will cease to be america. Yeah i mean that's okay from our perspective. That seems obvious. It seems like the whole point of america was a government that is secular so that everyone can practice whatever religion they want or need to practice. I mean that seems pretty obvious from you know. I don't know the language of the founding documents the writings of the people who crafted them all of that sort of thing how. how are people justifying this alter. I mean obviously. David barton is one of our country's great historians but it does seem like i don't get how how justifying their position. Well are they just lie. Big chunk of it is bad history and also a big chunk of it is that we've our side has never done a good job of pushing back on it so like previous books written about whether or not we're christian nation. They've offered this gentle correction to the christian. He guys this is what history actually tells us. Here's what the founding fathers actually meant. And here's what they actually said. But they've kind of left it at that right and unfortunately that's not enough facts. This is sad to say are not enough otherwise we wouldn't have a president trump right so writing out. Errors is insufficient so so this book does that but then i also went on the offensive. This book is an assault on the christian. Nationalist identity not only other christian nationalists wrong their beliefs and identity run counter to the ideals on which this nation was founded. They are fundamentally on american. Well if there's any time in history that we could see that it's looking at a bunch of people today as the as the day that we're recording this marching around with signs that say or chanting. Stop the vote at lake county vote. It depends on depending on where you're like. How can you think that you're being a good american. If your whole goal is if this doesn't go my way silence the rest of the americans. No i mean there's no way to square that it is a naked power. Grab her well. I feel better about my country. You touched on this just a minute ago. They a lot of what is in the constitution. There's a lot of bad stuff in the constitution the electoral college for one which we're seeing the results of right now. There's four million vote gap between the front runner and the second place finisher in the presidential election. And we're all still wondering. Geez the guy with four million more votes going to win or not. I don't know and that's a relic of slavery. I mean there's this this devil's bargain. That was made in the constitution with slavery. But there's a few things in there that are really impressive. And they tend to be the things that are our secular heritage right so christian nationalists have persuaded to many americans to abandon our heritage to spurn those secular foundations in favor of their myth but america invented the separation of state and church that is in american original so the idea was born in the enlightenment was first implemented in the american experiment. I hate to call you on this. But the phrase separation of church and state never appears in the constitution. You're wrong check way. I know. I know that's not something i've ever before though but i mean my god to take another example right like we the people that was a i. Those words are poetic but they also they mean so much more. This is the first time in human history where the power to govern was cited situated in people from the bottom up not from the top out from a deity saying this person is the chosen one. Who's going to govern all of you. Instead we get to choose. Who's going to govern us. I mean and those two things are i mean those are sex. That's our secular heritage. They stemmed from the secularism imbued in that document. The same thing with the religious test clause. that's an article six banning religious tests for public office. That was a first and these are the things that were the true american contribution to humanity and political science and all of them are about the secular character of our government's first constitution not to mention a god at all. Yeah yeah amazing. Amazing well anderson l. Thank you so much for coming on the show. People can just get your book sort of wherever you get books wherever you get books Bookshop dot org is a great place if you want support your local independent bookstores if people wanna signed copy sends. I'm not able to be out on tour if you order it through. F f are f dot org through the f f website. 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EP 34  Hunters of Color  Jimmy Flatt

Talk Is Sheep - Wild Sheep Society of British Columbia

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EP 34 Hunters of Color Jimmy Flatt

"This is talk is cheap. A podcast by wild sheep society british columbia come along as we take conversations that matter to you into the high album. Good afternoon stevo. It is. isn't it. I see you got the monarch on. Of course right. Why not record like it had a couple of good thunder Today looks lake. it's sunny so the hell knows when you're living in an office space right so it's Middle of june We're recording this to get six weeks till sheep season. that's scary. Six weeks will be in the mountains while already. Let's believe actually that means just all be three months that that i'll be on my flying own. But who's counting right because i'll i flying on the thirteenth of september. Who's count. yeah yeah. Wow that's coming quick. So you're out training man. You get the pack on and you're putting some miles on what i do what i do so i was. I was sixty five. Yesterday did five miles for sixty five eight k. so it was pretty good not much elevation but That was good my my Flexes hip steph today. But i'm gonna throw it on again tonight. Nato for maybe a shorter one to try to get the one the miniature that weight on your back. It's you realize that. Oh wow. I got muscles there that i forgot that i had or didn't even know you had right. Yeah more so the next day you're like. Oh yeah yeah exactly. I feel good dude. Some good good and then day two days later like oh i can't get out of bed. Anybody doing some sheep. Sheep hunting or Turning in general. We'll know that right. It's just comes with time. Yeah for sure. So we just did a podcast. With trevor carruthers taxidermy. We're looking for more ideas. If you've got any ideas email communications at while sheep. Society dot com anyhow to stuff the more feedback we get. We can tailor the show to you. So don't be afraid to let us know what you want and The right in and we use your idea or your guests will send. Yes some swag so Communications at while she dot com. Keep the ideas coming and let us know if you want the episodes to be shorter or longer because right now we're trying to cap in about an hour and that that that the feedback. We were getting at the beginning. That's what people were wanting because most people's commute your twenty twenty five minutes to work. They want something to listen to and from work but if you want them longer shorter let us know that as well i do think though that with my magical voice that people just want to listen right and so oh sorry. I fell asleep there for a second one. Okay i hope people can listen to. I can't listen to my own podcast anyway. Enough about me Episode thirty four hundreds of color that. This is fantastic podcast. We welcome jimmy flat to the show. He's one of the founders. Along with. Leo parker thomas tyner For hundreds of color and a great listen obvious accomplished hunter right like the guys a lot of stuff and yeah no kidding. Yeah i was. I was curious to see. What's the adult onset hunter. Whatever but no eight years old right so this. This is an episode. I've been wanting to put together for a heck of a long time. When i first heard of them on. Instagram started interacting with one campfire with them. Got just such a great conversation. I knew there was there was something we needed to discuss in there was a great platform for it. And i think this episode is very very Emotiv and interesting and just we'll dry good conversations in good thoughts from people. I'm hoping so i. I really really enjoyed this chat with him. Why you know. Jimmy is just you could tell. His personality is a humble guy. He's well-spoken he's respectful. And i really liked to the messaging that he shared about community about inclusion about diversity And it was this. There was a sense of inclusivity. It wasn't you know excluding anyone right and they want everyone to be involved. And i think it's a really important message and hats off to them for doing it. It's a great movement and we've seen a lot. They've seen a lot of support they're doing really well with it right. Absolutely are in their only only going to grow like like. I said when i heard of them probably last year they adolescent thousand followers on instagram. And they're just under nine thousand. now they are skyrocketing. And it's for good reason and you'll you'll hear why in this episode It was interesting to like some of the obstacles and issues that need to really one. Campfire centric like about educating people about hunting. And maybe maybe they're not going to be a hunter maybe they're not interested but At least giving them a level of acceptance so that you know they have a school curriculum that they're sharing and i thought you know of what a great program and You know a lot of the issues and obviously there's is diversity and and the color issue which is you know their mission statement. That's the bread and butter. What they're doing. But there's a lot going on there that you know all hunters have to worry about right just so many layers to unpack that. You don't even realize riding and a lot of things you you take for granted just by opening the door and thrown on a pack. It just stuff. You don't think of and i. I really really appreciate this conversation that we're able to have and it's been a long time coming. I really thoroughly enjoyed it. Yeah for sure. Appreciate you senate up stephen. So episode thirty four hunters of color. Jimmy flat enjoy the listen. If you looked up the words conservation superhero in the dictionary. You see a picture of our friend. Homered from precision optics a tireless donor supporter of all things wild sheep precision optics located in british columbia. Truly stands alone. I alpine from optics. Two rifles to outdoor gear and a knowledge that cannot be surpassed. Toss in that killer smile. And you have total conservation. Package precision optics. We are truly thankful for the support. You show us every step of the way buying them online precision optics dot net or in aroma foods located just off highway ninety seven cornell bc. Jimmy welcome to talk is cheap but great to get you on the show. Thanks for coming on tonight. Thanks for having me. Yeah totally stoked so Obviously you're founder of of color and Obviously hunter yourself You know. I really want to jump into color and learn all about the organization. What you guys stand for your beliefs but maybe if you could share a little bit about your journey like where you started hunting You know your development how you Got involved with it and just kind of go right from the very beginning. You're hunting background today. How you got to where you're at yeah so i mean even before my my lifetime. my dad was a game warden in at on camp pendleton while he was stationed there as a he was in the marines and he kind of steered away from hunting or teaching me how to hunt because while he was gay morton the only couple of are only things that he really got involved with. Were the bad side of hunting. He is right up poaching violation. He would horror stories from the coyotes in the immigrants. Coming over Because the the base is right on the border but so he steered away from it. He he really encouraged me to get out in a be adventurous and explore and Grown up he taught me how to fish camp at backpack But then it wasn't until i was eight years old. That one of my close family friends invited me out on a on a hunt in the central valley california for decks in a. It's like it's a deeply ingrained in my brain that that morning it was pitch black. I just remember walking through the water. The waiters were released getting soaked shivering shiver to the bone and it was. It was really foggy morning. And i was looking at the dogs. Dogs started to get interested in something in the sky and looked up in through. The fog came to mallard ducks and My dad and my best friend at the times. Dad shot both of them. That was it for me i was. I was hooked at that. I didn't care about being cold Care about being wet So that next year a forced my dad to let me take hunters. Safety course A then pushed him to get me into a turkey hunting and together. We learn so me and my dad learn how to hunt together even though My dad was probably at that point. Thirty five or something like that But it was really i Addiction to being outdoors that really pushed him into to going and he doesn't hunt anymore. Unless i'm there One day. I'd love to love to get him out until like canadian. Hunt moose or Big on cheaper or something I wanna yeah. I just want to give back him for encouraging. Courage me to get into because it's led me to you are am now So i mean my. My hunting journey really started taking off the second. Got my driver's license. And i could start taking myself out. I wasn't relying on my dad to to go places In so once driver's license. I was going out every weekend. Athere fishing or hunting. And that's where. I really kind of dove in started. Go on sale and along this journey Started to realize the only brown face out there And i didn't really realize it was like thing until two thousand sixteen when the us fish and wildlife survey came out the show that ninety six percent of all hunters white. and then i realized. Oh that's why. I was feeling that way when i was younger So move onto college. I moved up to oregon went to oregon state university And i used to be a big baseball player I gave up playing baseball to dive more into hunting and a bogus on school. but oregon. there's there's so many more opportunities in the were in california and That's when i got into elk hunting in the back country style hans And my my I've had advanced since so Yes kind of my background on hunting. And i'm still trying to tag my i bowl at last four years with archery Been within twenty five yards of a bowl have not been able to lend narrow fly. Just because of the wind swirls or There's you're on the coastal range where you can't see more than five feet The ads it's been awesome. Been a huge learning curve. And i mean. I love it. I i lived for. That's awesome man so I'm just curious. Have you done any other big game. Stop chasing deer around or anything like that. Obviously very accomplished bird hunter and obviously spent a lot of time in the field chasing. But and and and just i think you probably know this but there's easier ways to kill an elkton with a with the bone marrow right just just saying will the rhett and in you get the call man and also. The archery season tends to be a lot longer than the rifle season. So at least at least i got to pick and choose my weekends a instead of having just two weeks ago out i get full month. And it's last year has cut short because all the wildfires but Hopefully this your all better. Yeah right on wall. Oregon state doesn't get much better for sure. And you mentioned the sheep punt. Have you been putting inferior sheep draws or what's going on with that. Yeah i've been putting in for the oregon Draws for five years. Now also ed on average for at least a unicycle. Putting into our like seventeen year drought. So i'll be waiting a while and they're bighorns down there. Yeah okay yeah. I know that the draw out the duck hunting i i. I'm an adult onset myself. I didn't get going until my thirties. And a buddy of mine. Who's actually hardcore. She punter about five six seven years ago said to me. Well we gotta go dot hunting. We go to cutting in just didn't really appeal to me and one day. He after about two years three years of bugging me. I'm like okay. We'll find pick me up and then realized he okay. We'll pick up at three thirty in the morning. Well it sucks so we drive all the way out a couple of hours and we get the bodo and up here you can only shoot. Migratory birds spoke. It's half an hour before sunup. So wrote an hour before we started to set up the decoys. And he's deaf like so he can't hear so we're thrown out the decoys and i start here. Splash splash splash. And he's just throwing the equal as he has no idea what's going on. What i'm seeing is ducks coming in. They're already flaring all my god. This is amazing. This is amazing. And i'm just. It's now one of my favorite haunts. Just not even pulling the trigger that first hour just watching them come in as you see. It's just there's something duck hunting and if you must have done it you don't really know. So yeah i. I relate their amount. I totally the To wrap back around Mean i started started waterfowl hunting those kind of gateway into to all hunting a at twelve years old. I got my first book with a rifle and then In california in the zone that i grew up in the zone They give you to over the counter. Black-tailed tags a year and it wasn't it wasn't rare for me to get both of them. was growing up Then when i turned eighteen so Every every american boy's dream when he's eighteen is to get an ar fifteen at least when naive young jimmy was wanted in aarp fifteen when he turned eighteen so My mom my mom was not about at all and it was like. You're not getting narped fifteen. You'll have to nelson so On my birthday. I thought they blindfolded me. And they're like we're gonna go pick up your your present And i thought that they are taking me gun but they took me to an archery shop and they said you have a three hundred dollars spending limit. Go ahead get everything you need to know anything about archery. Three hundred dollars is pretty pretty minimal to get full archery setup And so i came out of there with like a entry level bow full-length shafts. And my birthday is like a week before turkey. Season opens up in california and the first air went out had A turkey at seventeen yards. I had like these crappy brought heads on and came full draw let the arrow fly in the just sailed right over the turkey. How was that. So i i went and got set up another another spot had another turkey coming lead another arrow flight. Same thing happens and what is going on. So i'm down to my last broadhead and i knock it get another turkey to come in and let it fly. Same thing what is going on turns out. You're supposed to cut your arrows down to link you're supposed to get your boats movement. You're supposed to have your draw length set. I had well. I just pulled off the shelf was. Let's go so huge learning curve. And i made a promise myself then in there that i wouldn't pick up a rifle or shotgun until i got my first archery kill off it. Took me is like two. And a half years. And i got my actually happened to be at Twenty years old I got a deer accidents. There's a window right here. Just passed this wind up in the hills right on. Yeah one of my buddies had access to some property here. A set up a tree standing. It took like out fourteen days of sitting in the same tree for to see anything. Come in a little spike came in. It was one of the coolest experiences ever because the shot it went. It was clean. Shot right through the right to the heart down under the arrows. Sticking in the snow that was below the deer and the the buck kind of jolted walked like five feet and then fell over right there and it was one of the coolest things i've ever experienced. And so that's what hooked me into two archery and I've trying to. I've been trying to replicate that with elk but one there yet for turn so i do these still still hunt hunt turkey with the archery. Are you a little combination. Both what do you do there. This year was the first year that i didn't get a turkey is like the last six years i've gotten all of my turkey with a bow But this last year. I had to put the bow down because i didn't have enough time because the nonprofit and everything else that's going on but it was kind of weird not not get one with a bow this year. Walk congratulations man. I have to say hats off the distal huge accomplishment just to pick up a bow like that and it'd be so successful year after year so i have no doubt. You're gonna kill an elk here this year now really stoked to hear and see all about it so right on your much better hunter than i. I've used archery before. And i learned really early on that. Yeah know what. I'm okay so i got a couple of beers archery but that's about it. Cool okay jimmy. That's great fantastic to to. Obviously you've got a lot of experience in the hunting community. You've you've done a lot of hunting over the years So touch a little bit on about being kind of the only brown face in the crowd. When you're out chasing critters around. So i'd i'd like to jump into hunters of color and i know it's a registered not for profit five. Oh one c. Three and you guys got started last. I guess last summer so and and you've done a fantastic job or promoting the work. You guys are doing our tell our listeners. A little bit about what hundreds of color stands for and i'd love to hear a little bit about your founders about lydia and thomas too so you know just opened up and we'll probably have some questions based on that. Yeah so. Hundreds of color is a nonprofit in breaking down barriers to entry into hunting for people of color And we incorporated in august of twenty tony and became an official non-profit by one c three with our s This last april so pretty recently And we've we've had a pretty solid up social media presence our growing every day And we are rapidly growing so we have Events that are going to be taking place this year In new york oregon minnesota california washington Were looking at montana in also new mexico And then beyond that next year will be expanding to more states And basically so. I mean there's a million barriers to entry into hunting regardless of your skin color regardless of your ethnic background But we are focused on breaking down any barriers that may exist for people getting into hunting the really sparked are I guess this is dr in mission to to accomplish. This was in two thousand sixteen. There was a study that came out. I think i mentioned earlier. I was by the. Us fish wildlife service. That did the demographics of huntin as a whole and It showed that ninety six percent of all hunters or white and That doesn't reflect. What the us or north america's demographics Look like so I mean growing up it was. It was pretty obvious that was lonely brown person out there. it was rare to find another hispanic or black person out hunting But when i did i was. I was always curious to see like. Oh how did you get into hunting or like. How did you get my stories complete different. But it's it's been growing rapidly We we have a lot to do ask a lot of a. We have a long way to go but We're starting here. It's been going great so far. I've i've followed you pretty much. Since would probably be about day one. Yet less than a thousand followers it was just. I don't remember what post it was. Caught my attention like. Wow i really really like with this. This is about and one of the posts that really got us. Chatting was that one would dennis The in the trees. Dan rea had all the names throw an atom and i reached out to you and i said can you get us in touch and sent him a swag pack and said hey this. This shouldn't happen role in the same team here. And it's it's like you said it's it's been watching you explode. His just your your skyrocketing absolutely love watching the posts in seeing the interactions and seeing the who's who come out to play so to speak in really jumping on board and it's it's great yeah Dennis was One case that happened to be filmed we. We decided that we had to elevate that. And we got his permission to to share a amazing thing because the community stepped up and really took a stand against the racism that and we've had some followup posts about him. He's a he's hooked hunting. Now let that one experience deter him from getting out which isn't the case for most but because the hunting community did step up in Basically said that most of or most if not all of us are not okay with this. He was able to to realize that. There's there's more good other than than bad absolutely. Yeah like two weeks later. He ended up getting his first year from that tree. Stand it was just wow. It was really really cool to see that. And he started off with archery to which i don't recommend When you're you're getting into it Just because of the steep learning curve was all onboard and yet he can't get a few dear this this last season Which is amazing. I i wish i would have gotten a few dear. My no kidding. no kidding. he's he's well into his hunting in. I'd like to think that we we helped a little bit And we are going to continue to help as much as we can for people who have any trepidation about getting into hunting and might feel guy. They might be judged based on their their ethnic background. Were the color of their skin So we're we're just trying to dismantle those barriers to entry in and really make it inclusive of all people And show that this community is is for everybody. Because we i mean we all share a connected background that takes us to our Hunting routes outer if you here today your ancestors were dang good hunters Yeah that's a very good point. And i think the one thing we have to realize is the you know. The first north american hunters didn't look like me right. It was certainly. There were people of color first nations Obviously so you know they. They were the original hundreds of north america for sure and they were. I can guarantee they were a heck of a lot better than i am. So there's no question about it their gear. Maybe wasn't quite as good as what i have. But i can guarantee you. There were a lot more proficient at it. So you know and so on that point jimmy. I was wondering you know. It's a tough subject right like discrimination and racism and we have this case with dennis. I like for you to maybe jump into that like obviously you. Guys are inclusion about You know people have colored feeling comfortable in a in a safe environment to to come into the community and get involved. But let's maybe because we went to dennis right away. let's maybe. Id discrimination peace and about racism and and how how you feel. It is in the hunting community. Do feel as certainly hunters of color that you've been welcomed into the hunting community or is this something you see and obviously racism and discrimination pretty alive and well we've seen it flare up in these last couple years specifically You know what does it look like moving forward for you guys. Is that something. That's really on your radar or you feel that you know. There's a lot of work to be done or or how's it looking from your perspective as a the founder of hundreds of color. Well so far. The feedback has been amazing. I we've had. I think probably about ninety nine percent of all the feedback we've gotten is is positive There's a few outliers but They're far outweighed by the positive People in industry in the community I mean you're we're not gonna singlehandedly tackle racism and prejudice within hunting. But we're going to do our part And for the most part organizations in bigger companies have taken a stand and have reached out and said that those they support us one hundred percent They are most of them are adopting diversity and inclusion statements that are promoting equity and in their within the ranks so yeah. I mean it. It's something that exists There there is Some 'gate-keeping that that is prevalent within hunting But i think through representation through our active outreach into communities of color We are going to be dismantling those those Presuppositions that Hunting is white or Hunting isn't for people of color or whatever it may be In so one of the things that we are really harping on trying to create is a community where people of color feel safe in some people color. not all. don't feel comfortable going into the woods with a bunch of white men with guns and so we are. We are actively trying to create an environment where we have a community that that more closely represents a community that they feel comfortable with or something similar. So that It's that they feel comfortable getting out into the outdoors and there's a quote we ought us is that there's a there's a difference between saying you're welcome here and this was built for us This is built with you in mind and this is a your stayce. So we're we're trying to create that space right now And yet we're not gonna singlehandedly dismantle all barriers or all the systemic racism that exists. But we're gonna try our best to tackle tackle as best we can like. I think you guys are doing a fantastic job in your messaging so for our listeners. And for me to actually Can you just elaborate kind of you know what. What are you doing to encourage that. So you talked about all these different events across the us I seen that you guys have attended the vha rendezvous which is fantastic so that's the education component. But then you also this spring you had those seven hunters out chasing turkeys right so Can you kind of talk about break. It down for us about what you guys are doing. So maybe the education component the outreach and educating people outside your own community but then also you know what kind of things you're doing to bring people in to encourage them to to join as a hunter of color. Yes so we on the educational side we've got were breaking down will. Were giving some historical context to why ninety six percent of hunters are are white in the united states or at least in north america. I dunno the study include canada. But it's probably not far off and So i mean it starts with the four full removal of indigenous people from their ancestral hunting lands Then you have slavery that continued on for another two hundred years and then postman. Patients lack codes and different laws that excluded a all people colored from getting outdoors going to public pools Swimming in public places. All he's always different things Given that historical context to to give people some some grasp of why and how we ended up where we're at And then beyond that were educating people on hunting ethics hunting safety and One of our biggest projects in the educational simple region is A school curriculum. That we're working with Do individuals and we hope to start that this coming fall And we're gonna be It's basically going to be teaching youth Like an elementary school setting. How important Hunting is how it can be used as a tool for conservation. Hunting is don't want to steal the rocky mountain. Pitching folks conservation and even if we don't create hunters out of this this curriculum. At least we are trading educated Future voters that'll be advocates for hunting along that were really pushing right now working on creating a curriculum for companies on how to be more inclusive How to do authentic outreach and and We're also working on an ally ship little training module that that's gonna help existing hunters be better allies Two people color and People within our ranks of hunters color then We have a mentor ship program. Which is is been super popular were were currently navigating the insurance space Which is prevented us from doing a lot with home but this turkey season was. I was doing a frugal concept for our for our programming for that and Basically the mentorship program is is based on the model. A hunting has been passed down from usually from father to son or grandfather did grandchild And so we want to try to dismantle the one bit the barrier that is the Educate or the The educational gap That may exist if you have been removed from huntin within your family for more than one generation In so the mentorship program the mentors are accepting mentors from all backgrounds oth- necessities if you hunted before we we ask that you have at least three years of experience and you want to pass this on to somebody or pass on hunting. We encourage you to sign up for the mentorship program. It's a it's a quick fifteen minute application basically just ask people what species. They're they're comfortable teaching people how to Had hunt What their comfort level is in teaching so could be just as easy as telling people how or where to go to or It could be as simple as how to buy a license or Anna navigate the draw That's that's something that there's a huge barrier because it took me in oregon. Once i moved up here took me like three years to finally start applying for Mike controlled hunts And then the meant he. Side of it is Anybody with zero to two years of experience hunting at who is either looking for a companion or wants to just get started off from the beginning and so the way that we have this slated out is. We're gonna start in a group environment where we go and do safety briefings. We do like classroom style courses Where start off with an hour or two kind of lectures and making sure that stands Gun safety and ethics and then we'll go out to the field and do clay clay shooting or pattern shotguns or shoot a rifle or and then from there These men tease will be brought to a A group style hunt so pheasant or dove or something. That's that's Conducive to doing group hunts and then from there we're going to it's going to slowly taper into a one on one relationship with a mentor But in these events mentors manatees are encouraged to come in the from there. We'll start matching people up and letting people actually are naturally find people that they trust in. Yes that's how that's going Beyond that we have a field. The fourth programs that we have going on in new york. And i think we're gonna be doing one in one state. I forgot arkansas Doing that with jonathan wilkins lacked reliable. So we're going to be doing a a duck hunt with them. Then at deer hunt in new york and the new york program is in partnership with the nature. Conservancy A and the national association. And that's going to be a crossbow hunt on the nature conservancy property which is going to be really And the i think the coolest part about it is that the nature conservancy reached out to us said. Hey we wanna do part in opening up our our property in new york for people of color but we don't know how to do it and so we partner together. We got a couple of other organizations involved. And we're going to be hosting this on just outside of albany new york this year and Hopefully that translates to The nature conservancy opening up more of their properties for us to host events like this In following years and I mean one of the one of the biggest barriers to entry. We have land access in the united states and van work. You're there isn't a whole lot of public land There's there's chunks of it but Primarily it's privately owned in the nature conservancy sees. That are seeing that as one of the main barriers in wants to do their part in opening up properly for People colored again into hunting while there's so much to unravel early holy if there's any any chance i'd love to chat with you more about that and see if there's a way of getting Some of us up here in canada. Because that's that's huge. That's desperately needed. And i love the direction and way you planned it out. Yeah we've got a lot of moving parts right now and It's it's amazing. Knew that that the community is really reaching out their hands and saying hey we want a difference. We really want to help you. And your mission and Let's do this together so y- for for everybody involved all over helping in canada for sure. So jimmy on that note. You talked about these The group events start so Is this going to be like you mentioned all the states. And you talked about what you're doing albany in new york state there but is this going to be kind of an oregon. Centric thing or you mentioned like These other like while arkansas and then you know new mexico and but is the centric to certain states or is it just gonna be an oregon to starter or what does it look like and can people that are interested from outside that area as a mentor or many put their name into get involved. Yeah we are actually going to be doing. These is bigger events where we're going to be hosting once In the states that get the most traction So new york has been a state that scott a lot of traction california oregon washington new mexico and And minnesota so these states are the the ones that were focusing in on to be to begin with and then As a word gets out about what we're doing and we get more traction we're going to be spreading into more states and then Eventually will be doing some outreach. And active recruiting For our mentorship programs But we that's that's in the works the foundation that is being talked about On the side right now but Yeah i mean we're we're spreading like wildfire. That's awesome so now. You mentioned with the mentorship program. You're looking for mentors and you're looking for all right so Caucasian doesn't matter white year. Everyone's encouraged or is it. Do you have to be a person of color. Get involved in that now. Everybody's encouraged Awesome it's gonna take an army to to achieve our our mission of of making the demographics resemble that of what the united states north america looks like. So yeah if you have any interest in getting involved Please sign up and emits. It's up to every year. Commitment is on your. It's up to you so if you only wanna do one hundred ten years that's via us but it it's up to individuals and how comfortable comfortably are passing along the the knowledge of hunting fantastic. You know hats off to you for having the vision. Have that inclusivity. I think that's really important and lacking and just to have that inclusivity and getting everyone involved is is really important part of that. So good on you guys to recognize that and include individuals. Do you mind just sharing with us if somebody's interested and i guess on that note if somebody from a lot of our listeners that canadian but not exclusively if you're up in canada here and you want get involved. Are you interested in hearing from people from canada's well or or is it. Just kind of outside your purview. Right now yeah. So we've got to have interest from a british columbia primarily out of the city of vancouver It's on our list to get up there. It then the next year or two programming up there We also have a lot of traction outlook ontario quebec mania the cities. But we do have some mentors already. Signed up out of those places in. We're just we have to figure out insurance in the united states first and then once we figured out we can probably transfer that over to across the border. Yeah fantastic so if somebody's interested in signing up as a mentor. Or how do they do that. Where do they go Everything that you can will chubby You should be able to find everything on our our website. It's hundreds of color dot org It's under construction right now. It probably will. It's still works. Everything's functional but Our website design is very rudimentary Lydia actually put it together in like thirty five minutes looking for for somebody to go and take another swing at it. Clean it up a little bit but it's it's there The application is Is there and it should only take about fifteen minutes to fill out cool so you were. You're at an early stages kind of your first you're still in your first year really And you obviously have a lot of growth plans. I'm that all three your volunteers all three founders or or any of you guys go full time at this so i volunteered. I work a fulltime job. i'm a manufacturing engineer as my profession has been working in nonprofit the nonprofit round for little two years now and she just jumps ship to go full time on hundreds of as a volunteer So we're waiting on funding funding to come in For her to start. Start making living off of this because it's it really is a it's Four people probably could take on this amount of work if they're awful time. So lydia's are champion right now And doing a lot of the heavy lifting And hopefully we'll get her paid soon to do all this and It should be long until grant money starts coming in and we We have somebody working on this fulltime and able to to really start pushing the envelope. Yeah so that was my next question so funding models for this. Obviously you're not for profit. There's donations Corporate private personal So you know where do you guys. I guess you probably seen a pretty big need for this. It sounds like you know. Obviously you've got a really strong mentorship program going with what the spring already. We've seen that And you know you're growing leaps and bounds the social media channels. Obviously instagram's doing really. Well so i guess Funding models moving forward. There's obviously yeah. Government grants probably available. And then you know if somebody's interested in supporting you guys. How does that work do. Can they just reach out and donations that sort of thing or yeah we. We do have donation portal on our website organ And everything that comes in is tax refundable so I'm not sure how how it reciprocates across the border but for the the american viewers Every dollar that you donate to us is tax deductible at the end of the year when you're filing for taxes At least during this last year hundred percent of the dollars that you donate it to charity came back to you and so It's i mean it's an easy way to give back and to do a a your part and everydollar is going to be going towards programming and Making sure that were pushing for Towards our mission. And we're gonna be r the salaries that we get a goal for. Lydia least are gonna be funded through grants In that'll be through federal grants given to us by different state agencies and stuff like that so Being a nonprofit really helps on that sector where you can get donations from individuals. Private parties also allows you to get grant funding tastic man Yeah Hats off to you guys so now in terms of moving forward when you look at the organization and you look at the work that needs to be done. What are kind of your areas of focus is it about Promotion getting people into more people into the community and and promoting that way or do you see it as promoting More diversity in hunting community. What's kind of the biggest barrier that you see right now I guess four hundred color as an organization and just for hunters of color as well. Also it's it's gonna take more than just a than posting people on instagram. it's gonna take more than just getting people out into hunting What is really gonna take is Everybody stepping up and realizing that there are a gen a wealth gaps there are generational knowledge gaps that exist within hunting a few If you've been removed from anything for one generation it's really hard to be handed down that that One of the biggest things we have as an organization moving forward is all blonde funding Starting up this huge thing where everybody's reaching out At this moment in wanting to do something with us But we're we're spread thin But as we develop. I think the the goal for us truly is to is to not exist We want to That we wanna accomplish our mission and then let hunting be naturally passed down from generation to generation as was and should be We we live for that and Hopefully it it's accomplished within the next twenty years maybe less but yet so The biggest thing is is just making sure that everybody's on board knows the the barriers to entry that exist Wants to help and Yeah i mean. It's been so gone so much good feedback that i'm having a hard time seeing any negatives to what we're trying to accomplish or a huge standards still fantastic so you're hoping twenty years down the road that hundreds of color does not exist. Because there's just not a need for for the organization that we're all going to be in the bush and we ought to be doing our thing and and hunters will be colorblind. Basically right yeah Not colorblind but You know that at one point there were barriers And that they no longer exists and that everybody is out there because we share the love for hunting the love for outdoors on conservation and and we're just within community with one another and living those stories around the campfire and Yeah i just hope that we get to that point sooner rather later for you and i think that's a valid point you know when when you get people around the campfire that's a really good place right. There's a lot of monster built around. That and i think you know if we could get people out there and and doing this thing that we love to get and you get around the campfire. It breaks down a lot of barriers because we understand each other more. Were more open. we're inclusive. i feel like everyone's welcome on my campfire. And when i'm around that campfire things changed for me You know people that it. Maybe i didn't have time for didn't know that well and it wasn't necessarily i didn't like them getting teed after we've shared a campfire. I'll have a good vibe from that person right. so yeah it's I love that word. You use to community right so Really really good good language. You're using their for sure. Jimmy and i think there's such a huge need for this and and hats off to you and and liddy and thomas for putting this all together. It's such a fantastic concept. So so i got plans tonight. But there's one more. I gotta talk to you so When we when we look at hundred color and you know you've seen a lot of support You know ninety. Nine point. Nine percent goodstuff. How's it looking when you reach out to organizations and companies will kind of support. Have you got you mentioned h as been good. You mentioned a few other organizations. Are you seeing a lot of support and people want to jump up organizations wanting to jump on board and get involved with what you guys are doing. The most part i think companies are eager to find a way to do authentic outreach. The best way to do that is with an organization. That's dedicated to that outreach. and so Yang we've had prior companies reach now on saying. Hey we want to support you guys. How do we do that. We've also had a lot of companies. Say hey we need you to do this for us but missing bonnet is that everything is. There's a price on it. And if you're if you're a for profit company you have money to allocate towards these things that you want an organization to do for you So yeah that's that's one of the that's one of the things that we've we've come into contact with is that there's companies are asking us to do a lot for them but aren to To realize that there is a value on that for what we're what we're trying to do In we break that down once people realize that yes. There's is a cost associated with through outreach. It'll it'll start going a little quicker. I feel that one that one a lot Fantastic steve. You got anything else for jimmy. I wanna know more about this turkey hunt before he goes way we we. We started chatting about it before we started recording. And get into that. I saw some amazing pictures. We were chatting back and forth. And you sit. Oh yeah just getting set up on a turkey hunting. You sent a picture. There was like seven or ten birds or whatever it was right there and all come on. That's not that's not fair to get into that a bit guide. I've never killed a turkey man. we'll have to. We'll have to change that here pretty soon. Oregon and california are probably one of the better states to go turkey hunting If you can find private land moulders public land here. In eastern oregon. There's a ton of public land where there's really good bird population but in california there are birds drive up and down. I five and you'll see him just crossed the highway or on the side I grew up. Grew up in snow valley. California and the the entire valley is privately held in owned And so i had the fortune of my best friend had a who grew up in a property of two hundred and fifty acres on one side of the road. Out of two hundred fifty acres on the other side of the road and they were turkey everywhere there. So that's where. I really cut my teeth. Learn how to hunt Has set up decoys had calm in had a stay still And so this. Last year i realized that okay. We will want me to prove our our mentorship concept. We need to Figure out if turkey hunting is going to be a viable option for Mentor ship and so the first time of the year we actually reached out to rheumatic. Who is a friend of ours. Who lives close to And she invited out her mentor. And herman t even though she's only been hunting for a year and July jimmy will be able to get three turkey in one day. And we'll we'll try and i didn't wanna promise anything but within ten minutes of of opening day Rue and her mentor. Had tagged out not five minutes later. herman t who is set up with me had a crack at his first turkey. It was It was like a ten ten yard shot. While i think the pattern was too tight and it was a clean miss As i was getting up to relocate to other. Tom's came running up to fail and so I started cleveland back to make it sound like a hand was going around the corner and these turkeys game in within feet of of angelo and He got another shot at one missed again and He's feeling down himself. But i knew that there's plenty of turkey in the area so we. We went back down to the truck. We we recouped Regrouped made sure that he was feeling good. Ruin her mentor. Hollywood just ecstatic that they had already gotten their birds and So shout we had another turkey. Come in and it was sitting there about twenty twenty yards. But were i was. I could see it perfectly but were. Angela was injury in him in the derby. So i tried to reach over and grab one of my aunts to save like a Polls attention off to the side and Busted him out of there so we we went down the gully Into this like perfectly like oak. Savanna area was just luscious green grass and there was. Tom does goblin his head off over low ridge. And so says. Decoy called him in took about forty five minutes to go the hundred yards. And he did this big loop all the way into us and the turkey was at twenty five yards about five yards away from the decoy. And i leaned over to angela. Said are you ready yet. Said shooting when you're ready and he dropped the turkey he jumped up celebrating was just in our enthralled awesome. Men thomas If you're on our our instagram page. There's an image of that turkey coming in a and thomas captured. The there's pictures of it so angelo. Got his first turkey ru got her first turkey and then we made it back to oregon for opening For opening weekend in oregon We brought out to other individuals who got their first turkey and then jonathan wilkins came up to to hang out and He got his first turkey on Our first day out and that was that was cool too because we were on. This is a really thin piece of property and so johnson's from arkansas. That few should turkey one turkey every three years. You're probably the best turkey hunting arkansas. She the the density is there are super low. And i think he said he'd seen Was it four for turkey before that is entire life and so the day he flew in. We drove him up to this property that that tends to have like two or three hundred on it just drove around and he was like he was just in shock. At how many birds there were So the next day we went to this. This really thin property happened to call to turkey's up to the fence and they came under and as they as at the fence. Jonathan i've doubled on on turkey's that first day while the next day we got busted by turkey and then the day after that he ended up getting a second turkey. While you're the theocracy whisper. i i learned. That's probably where my most proficient is with turkey. Just because i had so many opportunities And learned learned a lot by failure growing up and A had narrowed in those skills and I'm at the point where i'm pretty confident in getting people birds. That sounds like last august while next spring. We're going down oregon steve. No kidding road trip you gotta anymore you can come hunt. The properties around here works from us. Awesome jimmy right on well. Hey i know you got plans tonight. I just want to thank you. And lydia for taking the time for us today and meet with us and and educating us on what you guys do and you're doing fantastic work there I got two words for you or three or whatever. It is sheep. Hunting chapter of hundreds of color. Come on buddy you get on that figure that out. We need a sheep hunting jr after so And do a hun- up there. I've i've always like my dream. Hunt is in british colombia. I think this is how i picture. My head is where i go. I get dropped off with a raft At like a higher lake. And then i float down from that lake to Different hunting spots each night. We set up camp. We go do hunts out camp from the river and I've always dreamed. I think i saw a youtube video. Like two thousand fourteen Somebody did that where they One of their buddies pass away and they they put his ass Ashes into some shotgun shells in Went to spread his ashes out in the out in the wilderness. And they did it. Floating trip I need to do that before. I've did before i need to be or before. I do it on in a shotgun shell yet. That's that's pretty much right. Where i live right in the center that there's lots of flowed hunts around here see. I which which discuss that at the bank. That's doable absolutely. It is absolutely it is awesome. Get moose yard. Yeah i think if you come to dc. You won't be disappointed unless you're chasing turkeys. Sounds like we can oregon but depends where you're chasing turkeys apparently in syracuse. But yeah awesome. Jimmy wanna thank you again. Wish you guys the best of luck and look forward to watching you guys growing doing great work that you're doing they're just thank you for taking the time to meet with us today and wish you all the best with everything you guys got going on there. Got some got a good feeling about what you guys are gonna do so much involved. It's going to be a real good real good part of the landscape moving forward so thank you. Thank you count steve. A awesome that you guys are willing to highlight our mission and our on board for what. We're trying to absolutely our buddy absolutely awesome.

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Labor Day Weekend // When You Meet Jesus

Celebrate Community Church

50:01 min | 1 year ago

Labor Day Weekend // When You Meet Jesus

"Everybody. This is Keith Roy. I'm the founding senior pastor of celebrate church in Sioux Falls South Dakota, and this is our podcast I just WanNa say thank you for joining us and it is my prayer that this week's message would truly encourage you enjoy. Well. Hello celebrate it is great to be together. We have just finished an amazing series called growing your faith walk into the book of James. I'll tell you I've always loved books as but man, it came alive even that much more for me I. Don't know about the rest of it. It had a deep impact on my life I hope that it did for you as well. Now, next weekend pastor Keith is going to lead us in a new series is called the greatness of God looking at Psalm twenty three well, today passer Keith is allowed me. I'm incredibly humbled to open God's word with you. If you would open up your bibles to Luke Chapter Nineteen Luke Chapter Nineteen. The while you're doing that. Everyone of us has maybe a piece of Trivia. That's kind of a fun trivia fact that probably most people don't know about as well I'm sure one of those that of my trivia facts with you today. I have met one of the presence of the United States. House that Trivia is that? Okay one thing now I had a chance to meet President Ronald? Reagan. Now, anybody who are under thirty years old you're going who and thank you for making me feel that old but in nineteen eighty-six President Ronald Reagan came to Sioux falls actually and he spoke at the Sioux falls arena and and the tickets already been sold out I didn't know if I could go but then last night I had a chance to but couldn't get inside so I went outside hoping that let's be able to see him kind of thing well, sure enough motorcade pulls up he comes out and he starts shaking hands and he's coming down the line A few people back? Okay. But people are saying he's shake hands and it comes right in front is. I reach over the top and I touched his hand like that. I know it changed his life. But. I met Ronald Reagan. Or did I really I mean, if they can be honest about it, I knew about president. Reagan. I had read about him. I had actually seen him on television different things like that. Actually. Touched him. But throughout is I didn't meet him. I say that because I think that's true with a lot of people in the church today in the world. They have heard a Jesus. They've known about Jesus. They've read about Jesus they've seen Jesus two things in the lives of the people they might have been been touched a little bit by Jesus themselves, but they've never. Met. and. So we want to talk today about what does it mean to really meet Jesus because because the vision of celebrate is helping people meet Jesus because here's what we believe that when you really meet Jesus. Everything changes would you that? Everything changes so. What happens when you really meet Jesus how you know if someone has made it well, today we're GonNa read a story of someone who did me cheese and that will give us the impact and the evidence of what that means. It's store, but we little man. Luke nineteen starting in verse one I'm reading. Out. The new living translation. Jesus entered Jericho and made his way through the town. There was a man there named, Zaccheus? He was the chief tax collector in the region and he had become very rich. He tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd. So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore fig tree beside the road for Jesus going to pass that way. When Jesus came by he looked up at Zaccheus and called him by name. Zakia he said quick come down. I must be a guest in your home today. Sack he has quickly climbdown. It took Jesus to his house in crate excitement and joy. But the people were displeased. He gone to be the guests of into Torius. Center. They grumbled. Meanwhile at Kia stood before the Lord said I will give half my wealth to the poor Lord and if I've cheated people on their taxes, I will give them back four times as much. Jesus responded salvation has come to this home today for this man has shown himself to be a true son of Abraham. For the son of man came to seek and save those who are lost. Great Story. Let's understand a little bit of the history in store. But now we start off right away in verse one and verse two. Here's what it said. Jesus enter Jericho and made his way through the town. There was a man there named Zaccheus. He was the chief tax collector in the region and had become very rich. Let's get a little history. Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem in fact, a few versus later in the same chapter, you'll see that he enters Jerusalem where they proclaim him as the King Hosanna and they do palm brands and proud of them. We recognize that his palm Sunday. And within a few days, he'll be crucified. So literally Jesus in the last days of his life. On the way to do some, he stops at a town called Jericho. Now, that name be familiar for people because in the Old Testament. There was the city of Jericho that when the Israelites came into the Promised Land, the first city they conquered was. Jericho and they conquered it because they march around the city seven times and what happened to the walls. Came tumbling down absolutely well, just outside that city, a new Jerusalem was built and it actually became kind of a trade center and a very rich center. Well, there is a man in that town name sexiest from what we've read what we know about Zaccheus. He was wealthy. What else about him? Short short absolutely, and what was his occupation today? Not, just a tax you're. Off The chief tax collector. Okay. Absolutely. Now, that job meant that he was popular with everybody. No, no I mean, let's be honest. There's probably none of you right now that have invited Iran agent to your house for Christmas. Let's be honest about it. Okay. But in that day even more. So he was hated why? Because the Romans had come in taken the land over so they're the conquers of land, and now they're imposing a tax on the people obviously to profit off of that conquest. But what they do instead of having almost to it, they have their own Jewish people do it. Zaccheus was one of those people. So not only was a cheater, he's a traitor. That's a double hate. In that way in the promise he'd become very wealthy how because when he collected the taxes, he collected more than was actually requested and he profited came off the top. So that is very wealthy. But it was also very lonely. Everyone. Knew Him and everyone. Hated him he was a religious outcast obviously, he didn't go to church. The fact thing about what's the worst thing you could think of that somebody would make money on that would be just you would be a a drug lord. would be a someone who sold children to sex slavery. Would it be some who sold illegal weapons? That's In that day. Katie, give you an idea. But something was missing for Zaccheus maybe some of you today are realizing something's missing for you. So. Is that kiss runs to tree ahead of him to get a glimpse of this man named Jesus now in the Mid East? TAP, any man run and climb up a tree would be undignified. But especially a wealthy. Prominent Man I think about this. For Mark Cuban. Okay of Shark tank to run up and climb up on a tree to get a glimpse of. Can you imagine that happening now? Not at all? But Zaccheus didn't care about his reputation. He didn't care if he literally potentially exposed himself. To everybody below. Because, he had a need and he wanted to see, Jesus? There was something he was looking for. In that way, see I found. That when you're willing to exhausted, even expose yourself. You'll experience Jesus. You will. Now, before we jump into what happens when you Jesus I want us to look at three things that will happen that when you that Jesus actually will do when you meet him. These are three things Jesus will do. Okay. Here's the first thing. Jesus will see you. He'll see you. Gay It's an versus three through five. Here's what it says He. Tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd. So he ran ahead inclined Sycamore fig tree beside the road for Jesus was going to pass that way when Jesus came by he looked up at Zaccheus. Jesus will see you know we. We've always limited time where people are isolated sometimes feel lonely especially in this covert season. Can we agree that's more than that than after? You know no-one invited Zaccheus to their home. No one put him on their Christmas list. No one ever said he's acquiesce. What are you doing Friday night when hang out? Now What I find is this when people are lonely and isolated, there's kind of two extremes. ONE IS THEY WANNA be seen they. They want everybody to see him. Okay. Two month old grandson that's in the stage of of Papa Watch Me Papa look at me poppy. Kids, they want you to see everything they want to notice everything about them I. Sometimes look at what people post on social media. What they post on facebook and what are they saying? SEAMY seamy. They WANNA be seen because they feel isolated. They feel like they're lonely they want they want to be seen. They WanNa be noticed by then the the other extreme though I see that sometimes people will hide. When they feel lonely I. Say they hide. That's especially maybe if they feel shame on a thing as well. Maybe, some of you who've either been through or maybe going through an addiction, you know what it means to hide in that way. People hide themselves in a lot of different ways. They can hide themselves into a tree. Okay. But they can tie themselves in their work. Write they hide themselves in the relationship some hide themselves behind Cova did. I find that. Do you want to see have Jesus? Jesus does see you even if you're hiding. In fact here's what it says in Jeremiah Twenty three. Can anyone hide from me in a secret place? This is God's saying this. I love this can anyone hide from me in a secret place? Am I not everywhere in all the heavens and the Earth says the Lord here's a reality. Jesus sees you. He sees you right now exactly where you are even though you might be very lonely, very isolated. Here's a second thing though that Jesus. Will do when you meet him he will call you by your name. We read this in verse five. Came by he looked like he called him by name. That's important. Zach Ese quick comedown. I must be a guest in your home today. Can. We agree it's huge. Have Your name called. Remember growing up as a kid on the playground they're picking sides to play game. What do you want to hear? You want to hear your name and the longer. You don't hear your name what happens inside you. Mad Please please and then you don't want to be the last one. That's for sure you WanNa hear anymore let's say that you're an you walk into a room and somebody says, Hey, gala I came here or they say your name what does that? It makes you feel good. Doesn't it? Versus if you walk in a room and nobody says your name. 'cause nobody even recognizes your there. Man Jesus calls you by name about this. Why did Jesus go through Jericho I? Mean where's he headed to worse? His Goal Jerusalem Jerusalem? That's his goal. Why did he go through Jericho? Could it be? To meet. Zaccheus. Do, you think that potentially people area new who was Yeah because he was the chief tax collector avenues. Could it be that Jesus went through? Just to meet this little guy in this little tree. Could that be the case I think. So here's a rowdy wherever yet right now, whatever's going on in your life whatever situation you're in? Jesus is calling your name. He does he knows where you're at he sees you but he called you by name I love how salt says isn't Psalm one, thousand nine. Award you've examined my heart and you know everything about me. You know when I sit down or stand up you know my thoughts even when I'm far away. You see me when I travel arrested home. You know everything I. Do you know what I'm GonNa say even before I say it Lord. Hugo before me and you follow me, you place your hand a blessing on my head. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me too great for me to understand. I can never escape from your spirit. I can never get away from your presence. Jesus calls us by name and here's the third thing that Jesus will do Jesus will come into your home. Jesus will come into your home and read this and I five quick come down. This is Jesus talking to quick come down. I must be a guest in your home today. Addressing. Jesus didn't say he's kiss come down I'll meet you at the synagogue. We didn't. He said I WANNA. Wear. To your home he said, he didn't tell them how he didn't say Zach you need to repent. You didn't say that he didn't make a picket sign. In, hold it up. He didn't go on social media in blasts kiss for what a rotten guy he was. He wanted to come to his home. I wonder how many Jews it ever done that before gone to Zaccheus his home. when how many religious leaders ever had? That numbers zero. Jesus does in fact, in book revelation, he says this here I am I stand at the door and what knock if anyone here's my voice and opens the door I will come in I will eat with him and he with me. You know what I fear. I think there's a lot of people that would rather be Jesus Church that happened come to their home. Because at Church was Jesus. Great to be with Ya see again. Next. Sunday. Have a great week buddy. See that. Wow. Because Jesus, came to our house. He might see what's on my computer. He might see it's my iphone. He might see and hear the things that I, say, the tone I. Say. He might see what I'm really spending money on. The rail is this. We think that we want hurry up and clean the house up before Jesus Jesus no outcome your house I want to clean it up. Here's a rowdy see when you make. Jesus Jesus will see you. He'll call you by name and he'll come to your house. Let's talk for a moment. What things go through your mind right now when we talk what we've been so far to me just POPs in my head is. Just, just the greatness of God in the love and mercy of got. You said the The first thing Jesus. Says I want I want to be you I. Want to spend time with you in your place. in knowing that Jesus once for each and every one of us. that he wants to meet US where where he loves us so much that he'll meet us where we're at but he loves so much that he'll make sure we don't stay. And I see that was the key is Jesus. Love Him so much. He wanted to meet them where he's at in his own, but he love him so much that I wanNA. Help you clean. You know what? I mean. Get you through this. And just paints a beautiful picture of who he is. Because of his love, His grace for us. It's amazing to sit back and think that our God there's no limits. Snow Valley too low. There's no mountain too high. That he won't go out and seek you. He Won't receive you where you're at meet you where you're at, but also impact you. And God way? One of my favorite versus from a song is I don't need my name in lights. I'm famous and my father's eyes make no mistake. He knows my name and that's something as an athlete. You know it's really easy to focus on you want to having your name out there. But at the end of the day, we're here to serve God and to have his name be known through our works. Now, Our Name be known for works. It's throughly truly God working through us. Well, we've been talking about this. We've been looking at this. Oh, Jesus will do when we meet him not sir around. What will happen to you when you truly be cheeses Were truly because again. Here about him not read about him not knowing some things about another that when you truly meet him and say, well, how can you judge it? Well, it's called fruit. So for example, how do you know if a trees and apple tree? There's apples on it. Okay. Exactly. There are four fruit. We're GONNA see out of the life is that kiosks that are evidence of someone who's truly met Jesus and as we walk through these, I'm encouraged all we get personal eight. Wow. Where am I add that really have I. Truly. Met Him according to that okay. Here's the first one. When you truly meet Jesus, you will do what Jesus says. You'll do what Jesus says we see it in I six because Jesus said Zaccheus come down quickly. APP House here's out says it's zaccheus quickly climbed down. And took Jesus to his house. Quickly came, down. quickly. Means immediate. Obedience. Here's a phrase that I think is has been challenging for me. The longer it takes to obey God. Is the distance I am from. God Let me say it again, the longer it takes me to obey God or be his word. That's the distance I am from God. Because how long did it take him to come down from the tree? Quickly immediate. Obedience. So, for example. I know I've heard about tithing giving ten percent guide but but you know it just isn't our budget right now and Here's a reality. You haven't truly met, Jesus. You had you haven't. Because, there's immediate obedience to. Or person I'd say I I. Know I know I know I should read the Bible I I i. know that I know Jesus talks about that. I know that man. Just, hardware able to get into it kind of get. It just means you you haven't truly met Jesus out. It's what it just means. Sometimes couples that are. Looking getting married but they're living together and I know what? God's word says about sex for marriage I know what God says about living together I know. But we're we're we're planning on getting married in. A love you. You haven't met Jesus Shat. Truly. Because when you truly meet Jesus. You will do what he says. Delayed obedience is. Disobedience. Those who have children understand that if you told your child to do something. And they did a week later is that obedience? No, it's disobedience delayed. Obedience is disobedience. Here's how Jesus said it. Himself John Fourteen says if you love me, you'll obey me. Now, I've been very open the fact that for six years I had an addiction pornography addiction. Okay. There's been a number of years ago, but in that span. Here's a reality. I knew about Jesus and I could even say that. I thought loved him but I had never surrendered totally surrendered. To Jesus. Here's his crazy. I was on staff at a church. And that area was still not obedience to me I wasn't obeying in. My Life. I can say well. I'm struggling with some things. I knew what the right thing was to do. That I, continue to choose it and I did seek help for it to get out of it. It was delayed. Obedience does I I hadn't met Jesus yet. The route is this when you meet Jesus everything changes in. You'll obey and do what he says. That's how you know you met Jesus because everything will change. Here's a second thing that will happen when you truly meet. Jesus. You will have great excitement and joy. You have great excitement and joy. Here's what it said. Zach has climbed down and took Jesus to his house with what? Great Excitement and. Joy Man you can almost pick your. Bam He's on the ground must a little guy for him to be that way and he's Young fired upcoming. Now I don't know what his life was before that I can't see. zacchaeus being isolated. For all that and hated everybody having great excitement enjoy. But here he does. If I said, what are the things that give great excitement enjoy would be very different people for me kissing my wife. Okay that's one great excitement gradually absolutely. Being, with my children grandchildren great excitement. Great Joy for other people might be different things for some people hunting Craig site McGraw, Golf. Okay. In fact, it might be a relationship. You've heard people say this you go. Wow. Why are you so happy? I. Met Someone. Have you heard of that? Does I think? Yeah, I bet you met somebody didn't you? I got somebody Yup that gives me great excitement. Great Joy. How about opening God's word. And worshipping him. Does that give you great excitement and great joy Here's what it says in Psalm One, twenty, two, I rejoice with those who said to me let us go to the house Lord I rejoiced with those who said to me great excitement and great joy. Was that you today when you got up, had a chance to open the Bible. Had a chance to be with other people in worship. When you truly meet Jesus. You'll have excitement joy. No matter what your circumstances are. Because, had any of that his circumstances changed. None. But. He met Jesus. Seat what I find it says. The. Under circumstances all the time and that determines have excitement or joy how things are things are going great. things are going great. WHOA wait wait wait did Jesus Change. When you meet? Jesus. It doesn't matter what the circumstance our here's what Philippians four says. May You always be joyful? Always. Be Joyful in your union with the Lord Not in your circumstances in your union with the Lord I'd say it again rejoice he repeats himself in fact, repeat this after me locate. Circumstances don't give you joy. Concerning Christ does. Make. Sense. See when you truly meet Jesus he gives you join excitement not your circumstance it doesn't matter what circumstances are. Have a dear person that just passed away this past month to cancer. Heart heart but you know what? Every time I talk this person there was great excitement. Great Joy. Because that was found in Christ not in the circumstances question. When people see you and I? At work at school, do they see someone has great excitement in? Great Joy? Because they've truly met Jesus. You met Jesus to they. See that do we have great excitement joy when we have the chance to come together and worship together and church when you open up God's word seat if you've really meant Jesus Everything changes. You'll have great excitement and great joy. Let's talk about those two things what what's going through your mind on those two thoughts You can choose. To wake up in the morning and And be be he didn't get enough sleep I gotta go to my job. Don't like my job, my bosses Jerick, whatever you can choose all those things. Or you can make the mental decision. I'm alive I woke up today Jesus is in done in my life. Let's go out and do that. You know that's the way that I get my days like Kinda. It might even bug Morgan a little bit because like I wake up I'm like Whoa let's go and she is not a morning person. And she wouldn't mind me tell you that but. Is. Just one of those things like I'm excited because my day started and I'm in I I start my day here. Right here WanNa see what the Lord has for me today at the beginning of my day rather than it when I go home at work and I'm tired mentally drained I don't want to. Because good chances whatever I'm going to read in that the morning is going to help me through my day whereas if I and my day come here. Wow, I wish I. would have known that this morning. You know so. They. Just, waking up with that joy. Sets. The tone for the rest of your day. I think the reality is the majority of US delay our obedience on a lot of different things. I mean I. I it happens in it's about accepting, identifying, correcting a moving forward and when when you said that I was like, oh I feel like. I feel like that's something we've all struggled with. And when we get to the point where we are having this one on one relationship. With Jesus and were, we feel like we're all in but we're truly not in. I mean I feel like thatched be a breaking point but people get stuck right there. That's where they get stuck and they. Okay. I'm going to church Hey I I. I've corrected this habit or this behavior and now I I'm doing what I'm supposed to do but they don't take that leap from where they are to truly be obedient. We don't. We don't totally surrender because we want to have control. Remember you using this analogy once his pen okay. Got I'm gonNA give you this. I'm going to give you this GonNa give you this. Maybe, this this. I can't. I. Can't let go and we're clinging on because we still want to control. But if we know if we let go, we have no control but we know who's in control. In when we come to that point of leap of faith got I'm scared. I don't know what's going to happen whatever it may be when we let go. You have this freedom in that starts working in. Because we want to be complete control because of easing control what regardless of what the outcome or my situation my circumstance I know that I'm in good hands. So, total surrenderance comes when we completely let go when I think a lot to there's times. Mean you can look at it the opposite side right when you sit back and say, well, what's the worst thing that could come from it? Right? It's like even idea like, okay, I'm right here if you decide to let go and totally surrender take that leap of faith. What could truly be the worst outcome of it? Right and I mean, you could say like, Oh, I could die. Is that really that bad of an outcome and I I don't say like jokingly people ask me all the time realistically once you're dead, you probably don't care anymore. In terms of where you're at unless you don't know before where you're going. But if you know where you're going because you've already totally surrendered at that point in time but truly is the worst thing that can happen you know. See. When you truly meet Jesus everything changes. It changes because of Jesus. Okay. Not Rebound not here bottom. You know hear about from other people when you truly meet him. So we talked about the fact that when you meet him okay you'll obey and do what he says immediate obedience and then we said Greg Simon Joy. Here's the third thing that you do. YOU WILL GIVE You'll give here we go. Verse Eight. Meanwhile, Zaccheus stood before the Lord and said I will give half my wealth to the poor Lord and if I've cheated people on their taxes, I will give them back four times as much. while. I think one of the struggles that I find that people have is a difference between two words and they chase the wrong word. They chase. Passion They. Chased Passion I. See this especially with a lot of young people. Now they they say I want to I'm trying to find what my passion is. GonNa Chase. My passion I want to do something that I'm passionate about and then man I'm I'm excited I wanNA marry the got my passionate about that person. Okay. Now that's okay. But what happens to passion? It fades and it changes because passion is emotion. They chased the wrong thing. Instead of tasing passion, they should chase priorities. Priorities now what I mean by that is that in fact, come back to passion. Passion needed okay. In a marriage you need passion in a marriage. Marriage conference one time and remember the one speaker Sane for the man he said man here's some ways to keep passion in your marriage. Any list off a fifteen different things for the husbands to do. Things like texture wife or call her during the day leaving note that says that you love her cleanup do dishes. Friday little things all throughout the day that show that that helps great passion. Then he turned to the women he said wives. Two things. Bring food come naked. That's what he said. Fashioned could've been. But the reality is chase the wrong that we chase passionate. We should be chasing priorities. See you determine your priorities. And they become your passion. So let me be example. Okay. My wife Cindy. Is, not my passion. You will. We'll. We'll. What's that about? No, she's not. She's not my passion. She's my priority. Goddess I. She's right there. Because he's my party I'm passionate about her. Is that make sense? Okay Reading. The Bible getting up early in the morning reading the Bible. About I'm not passionate about that getting up. Early. But it's my priority. And because it's my party, I'm passionate about working out. Passionate about working I'd have fly boy donate my word but because it's a priority mind guess what. I'm passionate about it makes sense. See Priorities Converse passions come next? Here's a question though. Is Giving priority to God. Well, think about the verse for God. So love the world that he what. gave. Giving is a priority to God. See the reality is this. That's a case when you make Jesus God's priorities become our passion. That make sense God party become are passionate. You will want to give out of your time into resources. Interesting. If you know what he says Jesus has right after. Verse. Nine. Jesus responded salvation has come to this home today for this man has shown himself. Keyword shown himself to be a true son of Abraham. Salvation is not based on belief. Mega Whoa Whoa, Whoa, I thought about. Jesus said, even the demons believe. You can believe and not have met Jesus. Kate. The Demons? Believe. They had not Jesus and submitted themselves to it. Kind of thing. It says this he says, no here does say sexiest prayed a sinner's prayer. He showed himself action. He showed himself by his passion was because God's priority guys parties give an immediate. What was his response I give how much? Half. Thing about that half of everything in for those if I've cheated anybody how much in return. Four Times as much. See. We live in a world right now where we live by intent in words. Not by actions. I'm not gonna read the whole passage. In Matthew Twenty. Five. Jesus talking this Jesus and he's talking about the final judgment. Method twin paces this. But when the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne in all the nations will be gathered in his presence and he will separate the people. A shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. So now's final Judgment Heaven Hell. Remember it. He's going to say to those people says the people to have his has come you've inherited I was hungry. You Fed me I was thirsty. You gave me something to drink. I was a stranger. You invited me and I was naked you cold mail a sick care for me I was in prison. You've is me it was what they did not what they said. It wasn't their profession of faith. It was our acts of faith makes sense what they gave. then. The other half comes and says we're wait when did we see that he said? When you've done it to the Lisa these you've done it to me. He says I tell you the truth when you refuse to help the least of these my brothers sisters you refusing to help me in other words. He's saying this judgment according to g says is going be based on was his party's are. Passion. His priorities to give do we give of our resources in time here's rowdy if we don't give of our resources time. You haven't met Jesus. Because when you've met Jesus you WANNA. Give. Up. Time effort you WANNA serve. You Wanna be able to do that. Here's the last thing. The fourth thing that will happen when you truly meet Jesus. The mission of Jesus? Will become your mission. The mission cheese will become your mission. Here's how he says in verse ten for the Son of man came to seek and save those who are lost. Game Afraid, too many times people in the church are so busy telling people what they're doing wrong that they themselves don't do what's right. Just a chapter earlier in Luke Luke, eighteen, Jesus talking, and he's given the story illustrates this the Pharisee stood by himself and he prayed he talked about prayer and this is what the way the pharisee religious man was praying God. I thank you that I'm not like these other people needless snuff sinners thing about this robbers, evildoers, adulterers or even he's GonNa get the worst of the worst this. Tax Collector. Think about that. I mean the worst of the worst center he labels him separate even this tax collector. Jesus mission was to seek and save who. The loss. I've never met anybody who's life has been changed because someone told them they were center. Who somebody blasted on social media who pick them at an event? Never. Met Him. Jesus mind was always on his mission. Where was he headed to ultimately what city through Rousselin he was going to die? He was going to the cross to save mankind and to be honest many of us would have said Jesus come on we we gotta get. We're on the way to Jerusalem we don't have time to stop at Gerry Cole. Have time for this you you're saving the world come on. Let's stay focused on what's important. What was important Jesus seeking and saving the One? The one. The we little man in the wee little tree called Zaccheus. It was about the one. What what do you think? Change Zaccheus? What was it the sermon? Jesus, gave. Does it say Jesus gave us It was his love. His love and acceptance of Zaccheus changed him. Were called to help people meet Jesus. That means that seeking saving the loss of twenty, four seven that's why I say the Church never closed. WHO'S A church? We are. Worthy Church in the world's actually one of the things that you're going to hear US anytime that we have a chance to talk with you for a long time we're GONNA ask you a question who are you deciphering right now? We're start asking you that. Are. You decide right now who are you building a relationship with that to help them meet Jesus? In fact. Would you? Be Willing to meet and reach the next Zaccheus. WHO's probably the person that we oppose in hate the most. Think about that or a society hates the most. In a politically or what if Europe one party and Zach Kia's is a candidate for the other party. And God says. I love him. I created them. They're special in my sight. You don't have a right to judge them. You go loved them. Wow. How that'd be? Enact to read and a nice. Saul an Anna's told by God. Go anoint him. He goes what he's killing us. He's got says. He's mind I create a Ugo. How far would we go to reach the next sack? He is that we would be them. We would support them. We would come alongside them protect them would we do it? You know it's interesting. David Platt. Passer Pizza and talking about a book I've read the book. Wahdat that's. Hard in my heart. Breaking. My heart still is because it's asking the question what am I really doing really to reach the lost really kind of thing and he's right. Something has to change some. That's eight. France, we cannot go on thinking that come to church singing a couple songs hearing a message and going home and come. Next week is following Jesus. It's not it's not at all. If it's not twenty, four, seven US seeking out the next Zaccheus. Seen him calling my name come into their home, inviting them at our home and build a relationship. What would it be for us to have a broken? Truly Mijas have broken heart. Even collectively think about this wells in Liberia we've been supporting that obviously right now eighteen wells that we've been as a church have been part of digging new wells in. Liberia. Each well on an average between one thousand, two thousand people that have clean water for health obviously against disease obvious against bias at. But when they gathered in the well ability build churches there. Okay. So so far right now eighteen wells means we've connected and help twenty, five, thousand people. What if collectively we met Jesus with excitement joy we gave we gave generously to reach the loss. What if we did one hundred wells? And reach quarter of a million people. Why not. You. Couple of kids go. that. Sponsoring children through world. Hope in Liberia was important to get them out of sex sex trafficking trafficking to be able to get them education and give them hope right with seventy two that have been sponsored gay. What if we did seven hundred? Seven hundred. What would that be like? Your Church we've been giving in wanting to multiply. So we've been doing church plants, and now we have a whole group of of home church is that starting as well we have thirty three right now church plan home churches, Caleb. You're part of one in park. Very excited about that. We're part of that and it's impacting people. But what if you're the one who's called? Delete. Home Church. Out of your comfort zone to reach the Zaccheus that lives right next door to you or we collectively gave and we had one hundred. Churches. Church plants. See. That's what it's about see when Jesus asks us to die. Ourselves just what you said that's what it is but deliver his priorities. That our passions become him now can just make this quick. nope. Before we talk more and that is when you do that, don't expect to others around you Claudia. Did you catch what happened in the story did you catch it? It's in verse seven. But. The people were displeased. He's gone to be the guest dettori center that grumbled. There's a lot of religious people. That had never met Jesus. And when you go out and meet Zaccheus. Don't expect everybody who's religious to support you that. Okay. See not everybody in life has that they're chit their life has changed overnight we know that but there's a progression of change. There's okay God what what what else do you see in me? What else do I need to address? There's always a growing in the I'm growing more adjoining statement I'm growing giving I'm I'm moving those directions. My thought is this. What if the answer to when people talk to us about things are answer was? I met somebody. So, for example you. Says what's going on with you you you don't go out and drink with us in party you with us and you know. On Friday night for used to. Why don't you want to drink anymore I met some money. Jesus. You. What is it about you? You have such do you smile time in yet I know what's going on in your life you just lost your job. How can you be smiling? I I met somebody. I've met Jesus. You, you living together not living yards you get married or yeah. No, we're getting married. Well. Why did you move out? I met somebody. Jesus and I want to do what he says is right in my life. What would that be if we can? We truly meet cheeses and people see that. Before it closed off. Process. Last couple things you talked about giving. and. His mission becomes mission what's going through your mind? Versus pop into my head but one of them being the from the bundles of my heart or my mouth who speak if I really if I really come to a place where I've met Jesus that will come and show. Not on the weekends but every day of my life. You know we we have a saying with with our wishes he was on when we come to do on the weekends, it's just just a reflection of our relationship with God throughout the week five met, Jesus. That will show that that will come out. That's what I speak. That's why. In, and that's what comes to my mind is challenging myself in that is. In my doing that what's in my heart is that what's coming out? You know what I mean when people when I'm talking with. My family whatever may be what's coming out of my heart. Because, and that's what I've met because like you said when when you met someone you WanNa talk about it all the time and you know and this and that and. I truly Jesus. I WanNa talk about him all the time I wanNA live it out. Something, you said earlier keeps playing over my head and actions speak louder than words by his mission is becomes your mission and you know you're it's reflection and. It really pulls me back to when I was a younger and my Auntie. Would be. Coaching US children, and developing us in teaching us when we were doing things wrong and she never really got harsh with us. But she she always used the phrase actions speak louder than words. You know what you're supposed to be doing. I'M NOT GONNA. Tell you what to do. You know where you're supposed to be right now she smart woman very smart woman and that really Kinda hit a nerve with me today because they think bow where are. Where world is where a country is with a lot of different things and it. It. It's obvious that. People. Aren't. Taking. Action And they're not following through with what they know they're supposed to be doing. They know. They know in their hearts now and they just continue to do whatever they wanna do for whatever reason. And so I. I feel like. It's more important than ever that we come together and we allow our actions. To be so bold and vibrant and out there even if they're small things, I feel like the small things are going to build up, they're going to be bigger and better, and it's going to hopefully cause a tidal wave of changes. person by person by person. Thank. You just hit it on the head. You know you said, Jesus love can change people. And not everyone is willing to see that or come to church or open up the Bible, and so it's truly how our love Jesus's love through. US can change those around us. Absolutely. God's Church had truly met Jesus and the evidence of that just talk about that actions speak louder than words were these things. With, that change. Culture absolutely. Absolutely would. And you're right this one by one because. There are millions of Zakia says out there. Billions executives is out there. So Nice about it. I'd like to see a miracle can I can encourage you can. Look in the mirror. You're the miracle for the Zaccheus. You're the miracle. If we truly met Jesus and these things are there. Things we've talked about that man we obey. We obey what he says excitement and joy we give and his mission becomes our mission. Mandolin. You're what happens. Then one by one we see people. We call them by name. We build a relationship in their home, our home, and they meet the person that changed our life. and. That's how we change it one person time. Absolutely. Well. I encourage this week maybe continue to walk through this story and say, God. Would you talk to me about this? Hamas Zaccheus. How do I need to be you in these if we do that? We will see God work in ways that we've only dreamed about. Let's pray. Father Thank you for your word. Your word is alive to his thank that this is not a story that something to happen two thousand years ago. Got This is us. This is our story got worse at Kiss. Got Forgive me for the Times that I've hid from you. God for the things that I've done yet got craze it is you see me I can never hide from you always see me you copy my dame. Guide you. WanNa come into our home. You want you can have a relationship and then got in that relationship. You change everything. So God I. Pray For for every person that's listened. God is an area we've not surrendered. Cod, given it up that we're holding onto just as the Australian that Jonathan had. That were still holding onto something that we'd let it go. We just let it go and give you everything. God, we'd obey you immediately on everything. God that we have. Great Excitement. Great joy as we come into every situation especially when we get a chance to come into your word. Is We come into worship. God that we'd have an understanding of what it means to give and give generously of our time of resources that guide your priorities would come are passionate your mission become our mission. Got and doing so that we would see thousands and tens of thousands of others, meats, cheeses as well and their lives change forever. We love you. We thank you for all you do we ask your name? A man. Thanks again for listening to hear more messages like this one. Make sure to subscribe in check out our podcast Jennifer pass messages, and if you like what you're hearing considering evening, sharing it with your friends helped so much. 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26. Nelson Terroba - Legends Defensive Specialist

Big Fellas Basketball

39:52 min | 1 year ago

26. Nelson Terroba - Legends Defensive Specialist

"Welcome to the big FELLAS podcast where we chop it up about all things past present and future about the game of basketball. Where facts stats and context reign supreme. Blasphemous sometimes, it gets crazy but we always keep it real always keeping real get ready to learn from players, coaches, and fans from the levels of the game and see the court and a brand new way. And now, fresh off the sidelines. Here's your host John Hart Phyllis. What did you fellas and walk into a big FELLAS basketball podcast I'm your host, Jay h coming to from. New York City the Mecca of basketball today I'm excited to be joined by coach Nelson to Rober coach Nelson Assistant Coach and Defensive Coordinator for the Dallas Mavericks Affiliate Texas Legends, and this episode we had a lot of fun talking about how coach Nelson fell in love with being around the game coaching lessons that transcend levels and the importance of the defensive side of the ball we've gotta go in and if you today Fellas at number twenty, six Nelson to Roba legends defensive specialist was also what's GonNa? Be Too. Good to meet you. Good to be here. John Thanks for having me. I appreciate you coming on. We're GONNA have a really good discussion about all the cool stops she maine and all the cool things you've been you've been up to. So just to start off, can you kind of give our listeners a little description of of that first time you got into the basketball and and what that looked like for you? Were Yeah I mean honestly that it goes back to obviously childhood my brother actually I looked up to my brother growing up he was older than me by a couple of years So when I was young like in fourth grade a watch him play in. In this fired at WanNa do that as well. So you know played through high school dripping springs Texas, which is outside Austin was there really enjoyed love playing. Loved The you know my team in high school. We had a really successful senior year district champs and you know big deal for us but just had such a great time with the team. It's such a great time with with the with my teammates and just enjoy the team I went to Ut University of Texas in Austin and one of the things as I went I enrolled in the business school at ut. and. You know what happened is that You know I just I did that for two years was fine. I could could've kept doing it. People kept telling me when I was coming up or making those decisions that you know you should definitely not do teaching and coaching because. You know. It's not enough money in it is what they would tell me so So I did business school kind of better out of reaction to that and just I volunteered at my alma mater is the middle school kind of volunteer Coz while I was in college ran the seventh and eighth grade off season and. Being clashed and I'd be drawn up plays and doing practice plans and kind of told me that that's probably what I should do. That's awesome. I can relate to that so much because I'm currently twenty old junior in college in my freshman year I played Varsity Xavier High School my senior year before that in high school and might coach ask. Coach currently he's been here for twenty he's retiring now would you like to come in and take the freshman team and it was like he gave me a week to the side but my answer was yes from the moment he asked me so and I've loved every second of it since then I'm just curious like so you were opposite super young coach like the kids weren't that much younger than you. What was that like for you in in terms of being a young coach at that time? Well doubled things. So it's interesting how it works as a coach Grouping, springs I really enjoyed my coach coach Shelton and high school, and then there was a girls coach coach English was very successful was gross because our school and he actually was shooting in the gym after school one day as you know after season was over to senior and he called me into his office and he said, Hey, you know have you ever thought about coaching? And I said, yeah actually I have you know he's like I think you'd be really good if you thought if you you know decided to do it. In terms of this, you know the reason I mentioned that to your question is you know just start at a young age like I just always probably like you Kinda just naturally enjoy. Teaching enjoy helping love the game you know and I also was quick to relate to those players because I remember obviously being a Middle School of being an eighth grader. You know a wishing that I had a coach that would. Give me some things that can help improve and that cared and all that stuff. So Obviously when you're young, there's the benefit of being able to connect with your players because of the age related ability from that set since But also, and I'm sure you've seen it yourself John, you know working, you also want to be a real coach. So you you don't WanNa be just there buddy and just their friends so At a young age I think it was really good for me to learn how to be relatable but also being charged and be a leader via via coach not be a friend be your coach figure and so it was you know there are challenges with it but I. I really enjoyed it and and It was really got me going on my coaching career to be honest with you. Let's grand is, of course, it's a very difficult kind of trend that line of am I being there. Because my best friend or am I am I still able to be a coach and then also the same time they're comfortable coming to me and telling me coach I'm having I'm having trouble with is whether it's class or something and they know, okay coach John Because he's He's twenty post to another coach that's older I'm comfortable telling him so like that relationship is super important to foster and then also keep it in check the doesn't go doesn't go overboard. So that's fantastic. Thank you for sharing that. So. Then after years, go on vacation space what ended up having made the transition to coaching the professional ranks. Okay. So I was Texas and So when I was there I ended up becoming a student manager. So the same coach coach, English who had encourage me to think about coaching as working his summer basketball camp and And he had one of those daily messages of Kinda. Don't put off. You know what you WANNA do. Another day thing. So got me thinking. And so coach Barnes. Barnes, just been hired at the University of Texas. So I. That day went home and wrote a letter to coach Barnes. You know kind of saying that I had read a book about him and ended I. Would I'm a Texas fan of Texas students would love to sweep the floors work for free just learn about the game in about four five days. Later got a voicemail will back back in the day because I'm old there was a voice answering machine. So. There was an answering machine with with a voicemail from one of the assistant coaches sane. Coach Guitar saying that You know coach Barnes. You letter and we'd love you to come in and work camp. So, the reason, I say that is because working Texas camping and eventually become a manager with the first thing that really opened my eyes up to this kind of higher level of basketball. This deeper dive into the game you know the the that level of competitiveness, all that stuff So a always enjoyed high school and I enjoyed playing and learning it but being in Texas allowed me to see just how much there was to learn. So. Being there of for Union a couple years manager in one year on staff as special assistant. After that I decided I wanted just to high school and teach coach. So I did that for nine years and one of the people I worked with at Texas will avoid He was a special assistant when I was he ended up going on his own track after Texas and became a professional coach. In. Norway. In Vermont, he ended up being the. G. League back in the. D.. League Bakersfield Jam. We always kept in contact I thought forever that there's no there's not one bit of me that ever wanted to be a pro head coach or pro coach I thought that pros would not want to be coached at that. There was not much that I could offer them. You know in terms of might experience. and. You know. I just didn't know much coaching at the pro level you know and so that was a lot of misconceptions I had but will and I were talking in one time he decided you would lie I. have an open position here. Kind of video assistant coach If you WANNA come up, you know we would love to have you and so I was in assistant at that time I thought maybe I can do this in grow on improvements up. So I can be a better high school coach so I went and did it and when I did I really. Really enjoyed, it was just loved that whole kind of level to gain the again this the pace of the game, but the amount of knowledge. Learning the systems terminology all this stuff like seeing how to make that will come to life, and unless they really seeing that these players also you know wanted coaching were coach. That, there was things to help them with. All those realizations something understand that the pro game was something that I could enjoy. That's fantastic. Especially, considering like guys get to that level. Because they've been coach their entire lives. If you're not comfortable, the chance to be getting to that pro level is is very, very difficult. So it's whether you point that out because it is something that people think, Oh, you know those guys coach themselves they've been for the the they've gone to that point by letting the people coach them by by deferring and saying, okay where can I get help to to get better at whatever aspect of the game at it is so that's great and it's something that would I be comfortable in a situation Xavier at like it's home to me. So that's why it's easy to coach. There I'm Howard. Have to figure out the next years as am I comfortable in other situations could could I could I blend myself in it and that's what would you decide in terms of that decision for you with something it's very real for a lot of coaches. So so that's that's that's awesome. Come, get, and being there. You know in learning from will will was a very good coach. I will wait It kinda gave me a template to a wills not a former player, right? He's a guy who worked alongside. So He's a guy that that I can relate to in terms of finding pathway up into you know pros and stuff like that for me to be honest from non-playing background. And also at that time is when I met, George Gallup was who's the head coach now Texas leads and so he was he was there and we worked together for Year in the. Kind, of started you know friendship mentorship kind of relationship at that point and then you know so that's you know fast forward to we'll get to that in the story where I'm at now but but that's you know. In later, down, the Road George as he is now, the head coach in Texas legends was was You know Kind enough to to offer me a physician you know when I was. Looking past season in its ended up, being really good set up for me so. That's how it all out. So You Touched on a lot of the mentors that you've had that have guide you through this whole thing how important is that for for you to have mentors like that? That could say I could take a chance on you and say whether it's now with with a even earlier when you were. In Texas, what what was that like for you? Oh man mentors for everything. You know like they're the people that that make you see things before you can see them right that's what coaches do to. Right. So coaching was a mentor. He helped me see that could be a great coach or his version of that before I you know ahead in my head, but he may seem more real. You know when I was at Texas Robin near posted the near is is Still Guy looked up to he's now the head coach at Georgia state was just a really honest Great. Charismatic but but just true high character guy who? You know when when I was there in Texas TJ Ford and and he told me even then he's like we can get Tj here to Texas you know he'll be the first of many come this way and he was he was very prophetic in the sense that you know after that we get you know cade the lamarcus Aldridge Daniel Gifts and you know Dj Tucker I mean there's some. Plays. Avery Bradley Accord Joseph Coach, Tj was started at but those who was a big mentor Texas then you know when I got into High School coaching obviously the people I worked with were big for me and then You know then. Will again him showing kind of template for success as a coach was big in I worked at Erie I with coach Peterson He was great great player development coach excellent in high character guy very, very good guide to learn from and You know everywhere you go in every step along the way you know with the realities we're always learning you know and no I always say that. Everybody needs coaching. And Coaches need coaching, right so Would you can you me all of us concern ourselves with a circle of influence it that can help. Mentor US and lead us in during tricky times That's what everybody needs. Of course I've been super important and it's a message to. Your find your mentors, find people that that will see things for a before you have to see a great message. So then you end up. Making the decision to professionally whether it's when you're an assistant with every blackhawks or later down the line what what does that been like for you and obviously everyone always talks about the how difficult Julius from other leagues obviously from the college aim for many many of the League being that whether it's roster turnover or things of that nature what's happening like for you? Good question I think to be honest with you. I've always viewed coaching very similarly. So coaching is teaching right so Each day that you're in a gym is a is a lesson plan right in a teaching opportunity and so regardless of the turnover or the you know stability or whatever it's going on all around you at the end of the day everyday you show up to work. It's saying you know we're teaching today with whatever we have in front of us and whoever we have in front of. So I, think, honestly, my you know my experiences, a high school coach for those years has been invaluable for me as a coach because in high school. I say, this high school coaches could learn from pope pro coaches high school in college coaches for them from coaches. In the sense that is approach you have to earn your players respect every day. You earn your players respect with your preparation with your ability to prepare them for the situation to get them better for their success new competence, right They're not gonNA really get too far about your motivational speeches and things like that. They just want to know how are we going to win and how am I going to improve? So, you have to earn it every day as a pro coach. So that's one thing. The other thing that. College in high school coaches could learn from approaches that you. You know you have to be organized. You have to be efficient. You have to have a system of talk language. It's organized and you've got you know you can get in and out of a practice in an hour and a half or two hours and get everything you need done. You know if you're fishing So I think high school in college coaches can contend to drag it on can try to you know Tenet and it's like to do drills for the drills was like a drill. You know when you're pro coach? No, we don't have time to do that. That has thrilled. It's it's cool to look at it doesn't actually apply to the game. Right so you got to be really intentional. Now flipside is is what what helped me as a pro coach or has helped me as a pro coach general manager when I was at Saint John. Is that. I think pro coaches should have a high school coach Italian, which is. And College coaches as well, which is the school coach I have to teach. WHOEVER'S THERE I don't get to Bitch whine and complain about I. We need better players or we need to we need to go trade for somebody else or the roster is flawed when you a high school coach you know this is the group I have you don't complain wine or a wish you had better. You know that that's what it is your job as a high school coaches to coach and teach whoever's there. So that mentality of just teaching whoever it is if they're low your coaching freshman freshman be team, you gotta find a way you might have to teach left-handed layups one day you may have to teach the basics right and you've got to be able to go from. You know this level down here all the way to this level appears a high school coach on a daily basis teacher so that those skills and that training is absolutely what you need to be a good. A good pro coach can sometimes especially in the G. League, we guys like we had guys that were nineteen twenty years old who maybe had one year college experience. So they really are at a high school level of of knowledge sometimes. So you have to be able to meet their needs at that level in also, you've got to be able to meet the needs of the ten year pro who's on your team as well. So you gotta go between those levels of knowledge. Of course I couldn't help but laugh just when you when you brought up the left-hand land because my all my freshman. Was podcast. I may know there were a lot of left-handed labs both missed and taken in practice year to get better with them. So W it I. It's so true that to look if that lens of I'm here to teach I'm not here to talk because look at it from I'm here to teach instead, I'm here to win games, everything changes your your approach changes. The way the way the way you just. The way you present everything all the information you're giving out completely different 'cause it's not from the sense of like I'm showing this for you so I can. I can look it's I'm this. So you can get it become a better plan. That's what I care about. So that's Super Super Kid. In that, that's what leads to win. True and you get the result we're looking for to begin with right. That's that's great. So I'm in from the G. League. Obviously, you went to the NBA with the John Todd actually had on all the Stevenson on just a few days ago we were talking about the differences between the these other leagues as well as. Just. The basketball is like in Kanye. So what was that transition to especially that we just discussed the G. League in with that was like not over to Canada. Well you know again, every step along the way help be prepared for the next one. So you know being able to have seen, you know the G. League you know operated at a at a higher level or whatever you WanNa say you know help me understand that I had I'm just like any other human being whenever you go into a new setting. When you go into, you know if I'm going to be the head coach and general manager of the Saint John Riptide haven't been the general manager before right but I have. I have been ahead. Barcelona coach had to make cuts for freshman, JV embar city, and had to pick a team right So, you know. have been at Texas and help with recruiting. So you know some of the same concepts come up but so the N. B. L. itself is a great league It's a very competitive they have. Seven Americans on the roster. In three Canadians. So seven out of ten or American. Canadian and so what happens there? It's to me. It's one of the most competitive international leagues there are because it's got the most the some of the most Americans allowed on a roster. So, what happens is the League itself is not a League at pays exorbitantly like you know the money in the League is not out of out of Control, Euro Cup or anything like that. It's a but it's a great league a great league for players really good players to get a chance to start. Their careers and also to be playing against very high level players. So we've had Saint John. We had guys like from high major de ones from Baylor TJ masten at guys from d three. D to you know all the way through the whole gamut high majors. In the same league. And but but the league, itself is very good. Very competitive. coaching is very good. So I would say to you or anyone like when I compared to nbl candidates G. Lee the I'd say the top three players on any roster in in the NBA Candida are good enough to to make a roster on Geely. it's just a question of you know fit in opportunity a lot of times. Of course an extra important to figure out that balance of of fit between where you go for for that. I was curious. What exactly is is hoops WANNA? One I notice that I was curious as to how that fit in with everything. hoops WANNA one when I was in college in the year two thousand. I I worked a a camp in it's called the Don Meyer Don Meyer used to be you know a great legendary teacher the game he used to have a camp in Nashville, which was the biggest camp in the nation six, hundred, seven, hundred kids a week. And but Don Meyer who was a descendant of Snow Valley which later learned. So Valley's a basketball school that I still go to every year Santa Barbara. It's guys like coach Popovich Band van, Gundy's Pat Riley Rick. majerus coaches, legendary coaches, John Wooden you know on the west coast near Santa Barbara where it was kind of, whether I teaching camps ever well, Don Meyer. Went there took his model to Nashville. At went and worked his camp and I was like man this is great. The way they teach. It's awesome. So I wanted to start my own camp in Austin where I'm from So just kind of got the idea know in my head and started the you know the can't hoops one did that We haven't you know we only like one session a year right now but but you know being away from Austin it's it's gotten a little smaller over the years, but it was really my my chance to basically. You know Kinda like what you're doing John. Like just. Just. Have Your own baby where where you get to be creative do your teaching come up with everything you know. Hire people you know come up with curriculum come up with marketing come up with whatever, what are we going to teach? How am I working with kids? How am I managing a whole group of Jim People Organizing? So who's was probably one of the best things I've ever done in terms of teaching and learning as well because you know at a young age at the age of twenty one, I was in charge of basically an operation that that made me have to be in charge of other peers. Instruction all that stuff running a business if you will. and. Those things really accelerated my growth in what happens is just like you know, they talk about the ten thousand hour rule you know every time I taught you know I would teach every year and every session I would be refining how my teaching defense how we teach you defense how we make this better I saw that fourth grader, pick this up that ninth grader, pick this up. How can I make this simple enough that that sixth graders could learn just like twelfth graders could. So you you really are almost like. Working in a lab, constantly a teaching lab or you see how can I get my teaching tighter and simpler and more effective so that it is more universal and the truth is you know what? I would teach our guys in pros. Now I tell people this difference between me and in a high school coaches just by title know but but I think that that ability to that that what? I teach now hopefully I make it so simple that I would teach sixth grade of the same thing and they could understand it. and that's something. A lot of people don't understand or don't readily pickup. Coach you need to be out of off the charts. All kinds of ways I think you just have to be an excellent teacher with great command over the subject that. that. was I love that because. I just that whole you'll you're your. Weight up just bring together those two things he would say pre different high school coach, professional coach, and be like well, the every everyone about the basketball knowledge is the same. It's all about whether or not. You can take it from one level to the next in terms of can what you teach on one level also be taught another level and that whole idea of. If you can if teacher or if you're a good if you can get people to listen to you, that's all you need. It's not it's not about, okay. If approaches a thousand times smarter basketball band, the visual individual, and then the division to coach a division three coaches does it doesn't work like that. It's not a it's not a perfect ladder. So that was awesome and then I also like what you said about having your own, your own baby I always call it. I was told people I'm happy I started my own thing but it kind of is like a baby it's just this they watching grow it's three or four months old getting A. Baby steps to get it to your six months a year old and we'll see how it goes from there. But no, that's awesome that you're able to start that in a it is such a great experience. You just use your mind just such working differently thinking differently now that you have your own thing to take care of as opposed to doing stuff for other people. So that's that's great. Yeah and I would say one woman lies thing about that. Is it you know I personally know several high school coaches in the coach against that I'm friends with. That are better coaches than pro coaches at work. You know and I know you know. Same thing I, know some pro coaches that are obviously way better than high, school coach so good coaching is good coaching good coaches take pride in their preparation coaches take pride in their teaching take pride in knowing their subject matter take pride in connecting with their players in really helping players take pride in the feedback process. Great coaches this it's just like master teaching. It is a, it is a process that that is not tied to age level. For sure. The athletes get better but a good coach. What will be a good content? That's great So then now you're upset with Texas legends, your coach and defensive coordinator. So I want to touch on the defensive side of things both what was kind of relationship with coach joined in terms of deciding to go and work for and then what it's been like sense. You know. So with with Canada like I said the League so the team I was with Saint John really enjoyed my time there the people the players But what did reality sometimes people to understand about minor league roses? You know sometimes teams run out of money. So our team in Saint John ran out of money and because of the the the team disbanded right so then You know I didn't have a job not for having been fired but just because it was the more team and so at that time I reached out to George today man this came up this looks like we may not have a team next year so. If you hear anything kind of stuff. And he you know he had just gotten ahead job there and he you know not my understanding is that his staff was full but I was you know because I know he would talk to people he might hear something. Excuse me. He said honestly might be something here. And I said well. That would be ideal and. So. The reason it's ideal. People, talk it's good to work with somebody you know but you know the more I've been in the business in the industry for longer and longer you know for me it's about three things you know, I, WanNa work in a place where you know I am aligned with my leadership in terms of our values. What we think is important you know if not no matter what we're doing beyond that would just there's probably going to be a disconnect. You know my boss thinks they it's all about the money you got to get people in seats. You know I don't care if we cut this guy or keep that guy or that guy you know is you know late for every meeting. We just need people, seats and. Help with all culture or whatever. Then I probably won't. We probably won't have a lasting relationship, right? So it's really important that I shared the values with my leadership number one align they're number two I want to come to work every day in a place where I enjoy coming to work and working with people around every day, and that means the players that means a staff that means you know everyone support staff. So and thirdly you know you wanna make you know at some point in time in your career you know you wanna make enough money such that you don't. have to think about it. You know not that you need to make a million dollars six, hundred, thousand, two, hundred, thousand, one, hundred, thousand even but you you WanNa make enough money. So you don't have to think about it. So one thing that that that you know work with George has been great because you know we are aligned in terms of our values he is about you know wanting to help players I, he's not about self promotion you know what I mean and. He's about helping guys get better and helping people get more opportunities. So we share the values He wants to be a great teacher I do as well So those kind of things that we some of the same things matter to both of us. So that's really critical in terms of US having a great working relationship he is. He allowed me to be in charge of the defense. and he's in charge of the offense. So the trust that he hasn't is through the roof and and obviously me with him as well. So we have a really unique partnership where you know we really work together on a Lotta stuff constantly. So and he has allowed me to have a voice. So those things have been really good with George and and he's You know in you know he's he was. He led. To a very great turnaround this past season and you know we were inquisition of to make the playoffs before can cut it short but but working with George has been. A great deal of fun in the staff has been great in the players we had were great and being in. DALLAS, is only three hours from Austin, which is home for me. So it was really a really good situation for me. Another the that's that's great and what you're saying, it's so true but import to be aligned with with the with the staff, the people above you only because it's not so much that the connection has to be there for. Her for a subsidy it done it's also for. Be Interesting what you're doing and the next raise your level if if if you're trying to get the best players they could be. Like you say ownership just worried about the bottom line and and and bring in dollars, then you're not gonNa get both things aren't going to happen the right off talking to be because the teams can be bad teams can be bad because you're trying to make them but you also worried about all these other conflicting it's so important to have that connection. And then Had, this had thought I was cut. This had had a good thought. Would you know what you're saying is right John. That that that is the connection and then like just again being able to Again this is same thing with player by the way player when a player feels. At home in connected with their coach, their head coach, right? I, know what he wants I know the system I know how to use everything I know where to use my talents right How I can conversations with change things if I need to. Win a player feels that level of security support in in structure right. There you're going to get the best version of a player. With that's no different for a member or for a head coach working with his front office when you feel support when you feel the structure in the alignment and you feel how everything fits together and now that you fit really well there in and how your strengths fit in no matter who you are or what will you have? You're going to get the best best version that person if they feel those things. that that's that's so true and what I was thinking of saying was is that a lot of had I like all the ones that have these winning teams that are that are making the playoffs and and winning teams Wallace developing players are the ones that put an emphasis on that as opposed to cleanups on a well John know who really looking to. Have successful team and and and we're looking at the mobility of our franchise. I don't really hear that a lot of hear a lot about it's all about developing and all about getting. Guys get called up. We're happy about that. We're not trying to keep guys down here to win games when guys called the Leon. We now have a less talented team maybe what had with that because guys are getting opportunities that they've earned workforce so that that's a super cool. Deep in its but that's you know that's no different Than High School coaching, right? That's no different than when I was a middle school coach. You know you talked about makes me laugh thinking about you talked about being a young coach right? and. You know getting used to IT I. Never, forget the first game that I coached. Right I was probably eighteen and. The Guy who's supposed to the original head coach that it was eighth grade team. We were down seventeen to four at the half. Okay. This is stricken springs versus like Travis who cares? I remember it still seventeen to four. We were down you know I, go in at the half time in the coach. Coaches like he was getting ready for the eighteen game. You know the the eighteenth as like as like or you're going to go talk to those guys like. You can have them. You know I'll I'm GONNA get ready for the eighteen game. You know so I was like. A PERFECT Alibi it. So I go and talk to the guys. Dance tempting for we end up coming back you know this is middle school eighth grade team. We ended up coming back and we ended up winning like twenty four to twenty two you know but our member Utah young coach in all that stuff I remember a time out at the end of that game I called timeout. And I'm trying to drop a play on the board who knows what I'm drawn because it's completely trach unsure of it but I'm trying to draw a place. That's what you're supposed to do. Because you're a coach you call up the time out and you're supposed to have the play though try to drop play extra try to the left. In. My hand is shaking because unlike excited and I'm like all these things in. The kids who was like in eighteen players names time mullins he was watching you know Kinda like supporting these Watson Watsonians I started trying to draw on the board is coach your hand shaking. And I remember saying as like shut up tie y'all pay attention you know as there to try to get a fake it till I make. It's funny how you can get from that position there that point in your development right as a coach to you know now you're in. A G., League playoff situation or an NBA Canada game five series defining game in your time out in you you feel the confidence knowing to handle that the go-to. rewind twenty years earlier in you've gotta shake hand and you're an eighth grade team Jim where with twenty five people watching and and you still feel that that connection to the game. The. Great because the connection, the Games always GONNA be there and I mean these these these events have until recently for me just two years ago. But I remember I can tell you the score and where we were what team you're playing, who their best player was for all those teams where. My hands shaking the whole time and I'd go in and have to talk to him afterwards and it was always it was funny because all the coaches much older and they will always old John like John. The. Team Jon take you know take this responsibility go do this and do I like it was. It was it was a learning experience, but it was never something that I was think back early onset It's awesome. Sure On. So just real quick to wrap up I wanted to touch on some of the defensive stuff that you've done opposites your specialty I saw you publish the Book Mba Defense for levels the six defensive questions, every coach answer, can you tell us about both? What was a writing that publication also? What that looks like for you west. So technically, it's not a, it's not a book it was So I did A. Always said it it's it's an article right He. Was a what is it? It's like at online you know basically a lecture on you know. So I did virtual coach's clinic and then transformed data transfer that into basically a lesson you know the course basically online course you can. Pay Or whatever to to learn from but yeah, no to be honest with you. I really do enjoy doing clinics enjoy doing I've done some in Mexico have some you know those virtual clinics have been a couple I love to do it because just like anything you know it it forces you as a teacher to really corral your information to really distill what you're teaching to. Really. You know. Just, like when I was a classroom teacher used to teach world history you know and I'm trying to teach the American revolution or the French Revolution or whatever. There's a lot of stuff there. So I've gotTa to find a way to make the American revolution seem easy and connected right and so with defense or offense or whatever we're doing with basketball some of those same things are really important. So being able to distill you know defense to those six essential questions. And being able to Kinda help people find their own voice within those questions. I think is is been critical for me being able to teach you know you you've heard this. John I'm sure you remember twenty, five percent of what you hear if the percent of what you see in here. Something like seventy, five percent of what you see here and write down. But you remember like ninety five percent of what you teach somebody else. So the more chances I, get to teach you know and those clinic formats and put those things together. The more I said, Hey, you know what? This is only getting me better for when I teach my team coached by team the next season. So that's why I really enjoy the benefits. Of course in Clinton clinics are super i. now just go onto absorb information, but you're right. So t yourself that's when you really get massive the the information that you're you're talking about. So that's awesome and and coach. Thank you so much for coming on. This was absolutely fantastic I. I wouldn't so much especially from someone that kind of had a similar study paths to what I'm on right now. So that was super formula for me. My listeners will join it as well. So thank you. An honor appreciates you ask and appreciate the questions you had and It seems like you've got your you've got your things figured out there at a young age. So you know I. Look for to Chart Near Success John and I really appreciate you even asked me to be. Awesome. Thank you so on the recording. Thanks for listening to the big FELLAS podcast. Check us out on all major social media platforms Ed big fellows pod to join that CHAPA. You can also listen to us on every podcast platform on the planet. Stay tuned for the next episode big FELLAS.

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The museum says maybe it's time that Facebook changes it's policy for museums and cultural institutions Facebook didn't immediately respond to an Email from the Associated Press has something very special for you. Right after church docile, brunch and sunshine. I'm Robin Lin and killing me for jazz with Jane every Sunday and glasses lying on five dot com. Twelve noon time three PM eastern standard time. Francis has warned against fake news during visit to the United Arab Emirates the first papal trip ever to the Arabian peninsula. The birthplace of Islam AP. Correspondent Charles de LA desma reports from says in a speech young people who often surrounded by negative messages and fake news need to learn not to surrender to the seduction materialism. Hatred. Amp ready to the play called tiny Gulf nation, gutter by ball, rain, Egypt. 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PK's see and the manager is here, they got a special treatment health tonight. How you guys doing tonight? When good rather? All right. All right miss. You wanna tell us what we got going on unite? What can we have the newest and hottest aren't the artist you can find entail? We're introducing eighty two the label to the world. He is on new against we can call him baby. I guess I mean. Oh, yeah. All right. All right. It's nice to meet you welcome to the team. So little bit about you as an artist. How did you get started? And what inspired you music? Okay. I okay. West five me to do is. Because a relationship saying I was in. Everybody makes mistakes. So, you know, my movie came from heart. My movie is about a person. Yet there with. That's a real to me cuddle the real ways. Yeah. That sounds like an artist to me. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Small please, call Pelham Georgia a lot of people know about it. But I'm from small pedal born and raised there, you only have like two sides. So you basically, you know, everybody there. Okay. Okay. And what has on me creative? I'm I'm not a not like all the different. Okay. All right. So so I'm sure that you have to be different to catch too. So how how did you get onto seventy records, inC radar? How? I am my big brother. Had his radio station. Khow. To to the whole nine of love radio station as well. He visited put me on like, bro. Do this do that. On a normal like writer. They may get shot. So that's in addition to the movie. Done. He got me on to and so really restarted to them. And he had told me about it. And that's okay. Well, I'm good. I get it. And finally got a call from tooth. In this live. Wow. Wow. All right. So what type of music are your heart rapper hip hop. What would you continue? It's like it's like. I could do both what whatever feel anytime. It's like I need to go ahead and do it then because if they do come from the heart. To be made. If I'm Nick. But I want to. Singing. Yeah. Wow. Wow. Well, welcome to therapy records incorporate we going jam your music and everything else all five radio and everywhere else. We can get you out. Where can we find you in social media and working we where can we call the book? You can you can PK I really really social media Facebook. If there's probably. Okay. Okay. The name of you single. Talking about your heart or the won't come behind yet. Single. That's out right now. Not the one you're working on the one that's out. Currently, okay. My are your heart. It's like is very emotional. You read tear it. Leavenworth. Can't wear meaningful were than. A change of heart a word. Therefore, so therefore, you're gonna be in it. That's emit Misra. I want to address a personal. You know, what I mean experienced myself? You know, I I had a pleasure me, and, you know, eighty men on their stacks, of course. And you know, you know, you need someone on the phone, and you talk you right away. You feel like there's a genuine authentic real nece. 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Episode 288: The Duke of Anjou (Entry 386.EC0804)

Omnibus! With Ken Jennings and John Roderick

1:23:43 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 288: The Duke of Anjou (Entry 386.EC0804)

"This nothing. We are Jennings and John Rodrick. We speak to you from our present, which we can only assume as your distant past the turbulent time that was the early twenty first century. During the great cataclysm that will surely befall our civilization. We began this monumental reference of strange obscure human knowledge. These recordings represent our attempt to compile and preserve wonders esoterica that would otherwise be lost. So whether you're listening from an advanced civilization or just reinvented the technology to decrypt our transmissions, this is our legacy you. This is our time capsule. This is the. You have accessed entry three, eight, six, Dot e C. Zero Eight zero four. Certificate number two, four, four, zero, nine. The Duke of Undo. Would you describe it? How would you describe the protests of a couple of months ago? What what? How is history going to remember them? What are they? Are they going to be called the? Revolution of two thousand twenty. Two soon to say, yeah, we're we're still kind of in meshed I've been calling them. Police riots just just to get people madame me on twitter. Let's go the police rights of two, thousand and twenty I. Don't know if you saw that during during the police riots at one point in Louisville. Kentucky. Protester jumped up on the statue of. Louis. Sixteen. Louis. Swabs all the namesake of the City Yeah Wait Louisville is named for Lewis Sixteenth? Beheaded in the French revolution that's interesting I. Believe it is interesting I. believe that's true. You believe it's believing it's one of my core beliefs that this is interesting. He a protester jumped up and broke off the right hand of the Statue of Louis Sixteenth head would be better jumped under the crap. It's a giant hand. It's IT'S A it's a a stone hand as big as your head. What's it made that you can just pop as easy made out of toffee. Looks like a question whether it's terra cotta or or because up stone with a bronze, you're not going to be. No, it's not Lebron's. It's. It's probably masonry. Given how easily it came off but the guy just popped off the hand just popped off the hand and ran away and. She would. Now I can understand how this is. Targeting a lot of. Confederate statues right because of the. The racial element in the police action led to the protest. Right but it's not clear what be anti-french sentiment work. In the Anti Bourbon viewing in the video, it is unclear and it appears to me at least that he meant to just grab the hand in swing on it. And then hand broke off and so he just jumped down into the crowd and presumably kept the hand as he would I would to. Do, you think he was looting for the hand I I don't think don't to get a flat screen TV and the right hand of King Louis the sixty I believe like most of the protests during the police riots of two, thousand and twenty. This was a peaceful protest and he and the statue was just the highest thing you climb on. And then he grabbed the hand, the hand came off. A lot of times when you're in a situation like that improvise. thinking. We had one of those prank hand. Real hands. Out of his his baggy overcoat is the way I used to decorate my house, a giant masonry hand of of of Louis the sixteenth would have fit right perfectly on my mantle water. Some of the you would you put it on your mind so I'd put it there and people would say what the heck is that and I'd go let me tell you the story I mean you could put something in it. I, don't know what the hand is doing, but I, mean it's not obviously not big enough to be one of those chairs that cups your buttocks looks like and I think this hand is big enough that you could could be cradling a basketball. Get always could hold a globe but of the world as it appeared in seventeen eighty. That's yeah. Look at that. It can hold a cocktail Shaker. I don't know what else you would. You would put an. Oh the the skull of Yorick. Just. Really put a spin on it, but if it's an Hand it would just look like a very small skull that would-be even Weirder, right he just guy holding a little person's go or get a giant skull giant skull of Yorick see this is the kind of stuff I used to put on my mantle in order to. Entice people into my web of of storytelling in bamboozling, and then I would kill them in the basement i. feel like their blood if we're going to get out the guillotines for the rich yeah. The teens for the rich let's say we are what the here's the here's Here's why. Is Why you can't get in there. then. The hand of the Guillotine guy would be a potent symbol. Well there are an awful lot of those aren't there. Relics of the Kings disfigures why not but this isn't really his hand. This is just the hand of a statue. The closest thing we have to attend in America because we do not have a lot of statues of French kings right here in the colonies right and the thing is that this this at the time of this recording remains unresolved because there are predictably people that were offended by the by breaking the hand off of this statue. And I think most prominently. A tweet. Appeared as tweets do a tweet appeared suddenly awhile tweet appears. From from someone who's been on my list of a omnibus topics from the very beginning how what was the first time I told you about? About the topic of today's show there was we were like five or ten shows in yeah. I've got a great was wasn't Maryland Voss avant. Between No in fact, it was the man himself Louis Depot Duke Down You. Who is is the Duke of on you the Duke of its owes you he styles himself duked don't Ju in the French style himself. He styles himself do don we ought to style ourselves. Album salons are closed. Style myself, with, Brill cream. But you say that is if maybe no one else thinks he should be styled There are lots of people who believe he should be this style thusly styled there are lots of people who do not believe he should be thusly styled as explained in a moment but I'm if we're letting people choose their own pronouns, it's go. It goes without saying they should be allowed to choose their own aristocratic titles. Well in that case, I am John Roderick retired director of the Central Intelligence Agency. Can former former US senator from the state of. Only. Be Royalist Times. You can't really do a resume. Oh, you just have to say I'm the I'm the the. The Duke of Normandy Park. That's a great title Duke of Normandy Park That'd be your next record I know I should get a you know if I was caught were I to be called the Duke of Normandy Park I believe I should have a low rider cadillacs. Also be living in kind of a like post apocalyptic city I wonder if Normandy actually has dukes. The Duke. The GNOME indeed probably. If I understand. I. Mean in England, cities are now assigned more or less randomly. You just become the. Duke of Cambridge. Because there wasn't one, there's a certain amount of that. There's a certain amount of We need to find a title for this person. So we're going to resurrect a duke that hasn't been around in in six hundred years and it's and it's historical accident now, for example, the the. Parent to the the oldest son of the reigning British monarch is the Prince. Of Wales. There's really no connection with Wales, and in fact, Wail sometimes protests right when the kingship remember shipped off Prince Charles to go to Wales for one episode I mean. For six months. So that he could like learn a little wealth get in touch with his world series. It's just an accident of history that he even has that in his name, but he has to pretend he cares about. About Welsh people what's interesting is that the the queen of England has not invested anyone in a hereditary. Dukedom in many many many many years just because she's so busy. I'm. Elizabeth to has ever done it. I think that the last time that you the last time that A. Royal said you are now the Duke of Marlborough or whatever, and that entitles you to states and land I mean you know to give someone a hereditary title? Also. Implies that you're giving them a royal grant of land and money and income and deer certain risk casks of. Serfs you're going to have to get some serves, right. and. So since the royal family doesn't really have that power anymore I mean they could. But. They would. They would run out of land deer and serfs for has to be some land and deer and serfs that aren't currently being used by by regular people but in the day and now continued to your whole. Three or lineage sure I mean all the Dukes that we know now are dukes because at some point some monarch said, I'm GonNa give you all of Herefordshire and do with it what you will. Because it needs a ruler because what are we gonNA do just have served run around making their own decisions. So does the Queen actually create any new titles that are just kind of honorary for lifetime only the in fact almost all of them are even the when people get. When when the Duke of of Cambridgeshire, whatever went when some royal gets? Granted Dukedom, a lot of times. That's just they're just trying to figure out a way to describe. The relationship. Like it's the technically he's a grandson of clean. So he's going to have something. It's got a sound good. Be, a good title, but we don't have any like actual titles with power lying around so. Any title that a Queen gives you today is. It only lasts the course of your life there. She's not giving away any hereditary titles anymore. So if you're knighted or granted some some royal title. Your. Kid. Doesn't get it, which is true of most titles in our country to like if I went in. American? Music Award. Right. My kid does not become an American music award winner my death. It's true if I won a medal of honor or a Presidential Medal of freedom. It would not confer to my child now Jesse Owens sold off all gold medals. He knew his kids weren't going to become gold medals. Right. Sure. What good is a gold medal? Nothing nothing sits on your mantle and Burn Bourbon hand. That's right. But in the case of royal families, of course, this stuff and the fact that there aren't new ones probably makes the old one seem even better. It's become atropine in culture that there's something cool about discovering that you're actually child fantasy that you might actually be the lost prince of something the end of a dynasty my whole childhood I imagined that someone was going to knock on the door dress to someone who's GonNa ride a white horse up to the door and say coaching for turns out you are the Duke you why do Why do kids even think that? Where's that even coming from? There's a there's A. There's a kind of magical and I think in the United States to a magical sense that those of us. Of. If European lineage maybe are the first time you hear like Oh maybe you're related to some ancient royal family and you hear the idea that you know. That through. Some paperwork found in a vault that Jodi foster is actually the. The Duchess evolves you and inherits a castle. It just feels like a version of winning the lottery but one that also grants you. Authority you're not just rich, is that the plot of the movie candles? Okay I was wondering where. Sorry I use Princess Diaries for that referendum. Candle Shoe is how far I have to go back Kendall Series on Disney plus candle shoe. I. Remember being very exciting but I've been watching a lot of seventies movies with my daughter and they are all really troubling not just problematic. But like troubling, you've been watching the Disney plus seventies movies. We watched the original freaky Friday I'm jodie foster fan but we watched the revenge of the Pink Panther we will under plus not unduly blessed but we watched. What are some of the other ones? Herbie the love bug. The thing about a lot of those old movies is that all of the parents are either drunks or very neglectful. There's a lot of just like what we would call child abuse. That's kind of we watched Ami and it's a it's it's brutal. We're watching an of green gables. You didn't tell me Ken we talked about Anna Green Gables all the time I'd never seen it. He didn't tell. Me It was a freaking horror show and is absolutely watching Green Gables I'm like I'm sitting down to watch an hour of a little girl getting brutalized by every single person in her life. She's an orphan that's what happens to fictional orphans. You thought it was Canada they were going to be nice to her well and I'm watching it with my daughter and her mother and they're both like there's some something I think. There's something about women watching other women get brutalized where they're like you know just chomping at the popcorn watching and just get rejected by everybody and I'm like it's the secret of true crime podcast. This is really hurting my. It's Affluent safe women who liked to hear about some other women get cut into pieces and a trump. I had to go upstairs and crying my pillow and I came back down and was like, why are you still watching this and they both looked up at me like are you kidding this is amazing and it's a great show but you don't have the constitution don't for young hurt it hurt and I I sat down thinking this is going to be like. Like A. Little House on the Prairie Anne of Green Gables was going to be out gathering flowers and. Maybe a Fox or something I didn't realize that was going to have her hand. That have some kids dangling a rat under knows we'll maybe at the end, you'll turn out to be the lost Princess of Oh retain way way. Around. The. Louis debone Duke Donors. You however has a pretty good sense of where he belongs in the big picture and you mentioned his tweet he was he was mad at desecration. His tweet reads as follows as the heir of Hashtag Lewis Hashtag. I mean it's Hashtag Louis the sixteenth, but he would say Lewis Lewis says and attached to the defense of his memory. He's attached to the defense of his memory. I can see how you would defend his memory. Yes I'm not sure why you attach yourself to such defense. Some kind of thing I do hope that the damage will be repaired and that the statue will be restored I already. Thank the capitalized authorities for the measures they will take for that Hashtag Louisville Hashtag Louisville Protests Hashtag Kentucky. How you found this by looking up Hashtag Kentucky, I've always looking at Hashtag Lewis Says No. Kentucky as always it's like one of my search terms he does not say, Hashtag lives matter which turns out was was not an accident. Of Him. And also not an accident. Well he's capitalizing authority. Yeah I mean I just associate that with fascism now. Trump's always capitalizing country or. Responsibility are strong or whatever. He doesn't really know how capitalisation works. No no no. One's walked him through it but Louis. Debatable, Duke. Is. The pretender. To the throne of France. Does not have a throne friends does not have a thrown like so many European nations no longer has a throne, but there are people who wish. that it were not so. In. His case wishes specifically that the throne exist and he were and his Butler in it. Well so it's not clear to me in. In following avidly following. Prince Louis. How much he really wants the throne of France, it seems it seems to me that the throne of France were you to reinstate. The King of France. It would sure be a lot of. Work. Well, he's got an hour. He can say I am the legitimate heir. Yes. But there is no throne I'm not a monarchist precedes small. So if there were thrown I, just want you guys to know it would be me. He is I don't think he would say he's not a monarchist the thing about Louis de Bourbon. Bourbon. Is that. The here's the last in a the Lai of how do not say the last because not the last but there is the French throne is one or was one of the oldest in Europe and. It represented this is. This is insane to think about but it represented an unbroken line of succession from Hugh kept pay isn't that like like nine hundred, nine, hundred, eighty, seven is. was. There was an unbroken line of succession from then until seventeen ninety, two in the French Revolution France go nuts in nineteen eighty-seven when it was the. Thousand and bursary of their of their monarchy in nineteen eighty. I don't know what was going on in France and they're listening to the. To the Whitney Houston record the thing I think was nineteen eighty. The two, hundred, hundred anniversary of the of the. Storming of the best deal or whatever the. French dependence day. July fourteen steel steel lane. So. So that was eighty nine. I was there for that and they were they were fire but I'm just saying you don't get to have a thousand year anniversary very often and did they will. Dancing in the streets to starship I wasn't there in nine, hundred, ninety seven but the unfortunately, the line did not continue unbroken. Because they deposed and eliminated. The royal family not once. Not. Twice. But as many times as you could couch because the the house of Bourbon the cap pays were reinstated after the hundred days after Napoleon. was was sent packing. While I. The first time he was sent packing and then when he came back. Then he then there was that hundred day period where there wasn't a. King on the throne then they reinstated again. So in fact, the last French King lasted until eighteen, forty eight. But that's still but there were no There's no like in an ele- analog to the. Thing where they ran out of. What they ran out of heirs tutors and had to start importing Stewart's, and then they ran out of Stewart's and had to get some Dutch people in Oh boy is there Oh, it's complicated. I don't believe that you could have an unbroken line of succession from nine, eighty, seven to seventeen, ninety, two without a little bit of fudging. There's some asterisks and what ends up happening is that the first son dies and then the second son dies. And so the brother you know every succession. It's sort of like if the president dies the vice president takes over and then the secretary of state and whatnot, and eventually you get to Prince Harry and so anytime you see a royal, a European royal or really any kind of royal you if they are at all related at any distance from Queen Victoria there it's one of the things that European royals do mention where they are in the line of succession English, they know their number. Yeah. It's like knowing what number of Microsoft IPO stock you're. Yeah I think Louis debone is a great great. Great grandson of Queen. Victoria and so is one hundred and ninety seventh in line for the for the throne of England also so things really are going to have to go his way without one. There would have to think be some kind of nuclear explosion. In all the major European cities and he would have to be in the Dominican Republic. They'd have to put all the people together at some point and forget to have a designated survivor. Yeah. Right. They'd have a huge bash where all the all the royals were there and and Louis Bourbon. Invited, and so. The reason and the plane crashes in the Caribbean. That's right. This is the plot of King Ralph. Even trying to study the. The line. That would lead us to our contemporary here. The Duke Dongzhu to just connect him back to the last. French king in the eighteen forties. Is. So impossible. So. impossibly complex that. That it, it really caused me to. Pull my hair out because it seems like it should be. Exceedingly simple part of the problem is that every other Person In this family is either named Louis or but also the royal houses of all the different. European. Nations are intertwined people Mary one another's. Daughters sisters, cousins. There's a lot of. Their a lot of people assume. Royal titles. Where they are collecting titles both from their mother and father's families and in a lot of cases they are. The both the Duke and the Prince of the same thing because they they. Because they're their own GRANDPA. So, that also kind of Garbo's the water and he but is he did lines peter out or is he a direct descendant? Of the last or is he less propagating or is he some kind of cousin or great nephew? It depends on what you mean by. Direct descendants so In the in in yield in Frankish Times, and I'm talking about a long time before the cafes now now. In. The year five hundred. There was. Instituted what's called the SALIC? Law. Called Louisiana the sound like law so Brenda my. My son, he speaks what he should listen. I don't think. I'm pretty sure it. Streetcar. But Okay God. What you should do me a favor. The SALIC law was. The law had a lot of like. Small laws. But King Clovis. Fourth, this is why they are all named Louis honorine because otherwise you get embarrassing names like Clovis my God King Clovis would be a great name for a cat. King Clovis. SALIC law was kind of like the was like Norman Law at it was at the. Moment kind of like. A clarifying law that straightened out a lot of people who lot of questions that people had in one of those questions was, how do royal families? How how does? Does a title succeed from one generation to the next and salic law was the one that said. The Royal Line is only going descended through the male line it was. It was just the style of the time. It's not firstborn. It's firstborn male firstborn male, right. So you could have five daughters and then a son and the son is going to be the one that inherits the crown and the SALIC law. Through the Franks then through the Germans and and. And Holy Roman Empire, and it became kind of the dominant way of thinking in the Royal Houses of Europe. There are lots and lots and lots of. Nations of the world that that don't follow salic law and added states. For example, the United States Thailand that's why von can will be principal though Thailand. But the queen like England at some point. Decided that the SALIC law didn't apply. Fairly, recent I think the idea that the crown would not. Would not pass to the sun younger sons before older daughters. Yeah. and that's true in a lot of a lot of the European. Families because as the and when we talked about this, very recently in our German telegrams episode. you get into matters of diplomacy and in particular the competition between the Habsburgs and the whole Zola, Ren's in the bourbons for. A balance of power in Europe meant that. You weren't. You weren't always going to be able to put the. Person with the most the most legitimate claim. Because that person would disturb. Would disturb the delicate balance of nation are interesting some compromise candidate with a list. So that gets legitimized even though on paper there's people ahead of him. Yeah and what what ends up happening is that you'll have three different people with a pretty legitimate claim and the way that it gets decided his who's great grandmother. Held held her title the longest or who's great grandmother like right now in European royalty. Seniority. Is Determined by who has been on the throne the longest. So if you got all the royals together from around the world, I think the emperor of Japan. Would I. Guess Queen Elizabeth, been on the throne. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Elizabeth would be first but like the emperor of Japan would be. and. What does this who gets served the soup I? Yeah. Right. Like who walks in first or who who's on top of the bill who goes after the puppet show and who goes before the puppet show there's a bill. I'm looking at the list right now the longest reigning monarchs, and for a long time, it was Thailand but he passed away if you're going there was a Swazi King at some point but now he's gone. So is it Elizabeth at the top? It is Elizabeth I. Mean it's it would be tough to rain longer unless you've taken the throne at the age of four like she's near all time in two years, she will pass you on the second of Liechtenstein. Who reigned between eighteen fifty and eighteen, twenty, nine, I five and then a month later launching fifty, eight and nineteen twenty, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety s he did not travel back in time and then in. A month after that sometime in twenty, twenty two, she will pass. The recently deceased King of Thailand. And then in about twenty twenty four, she will become the all time champion if she can outlive. Louis the fourteenth. Who lasted so long that I think his grandson actually. Succeeded him on the throne of France. Louis, the fourteenth absolutely plays a role in our story. Because Louis. The fourteenth. Is. The ancestor that that connects Louis debone Duke don't Ju. To the throne of France. And that is because. Louis the fourteenth long rain. Set in motion. Some confusing. A confusing questions seventy refuses to die all the people who thought they were successors. are going to start. Dying one by one well, the there's that and also there became. there. became a difficulty. How is it that not phrased in the passive voice there became a difficulty. By the way, the Sultan of Brunei's curl in second place is that right? Fifty two and a half years the sultan of Brunei who would've thought? And Elizabeth. Because she's also the head of. State of St. Vincent. Grenadines and Belise and New Zealand. So she's on instance thirty. I would clean this up a little. So Louis the fourteenth, his eldest son, the grand fan and his. Other sons. Philip and Charles. All watched their father as he became the longest lived monarch. In and remaining. Until This Day rain for seventy two years. And one hundred days. Plus or minus. and. So a lot went on during that era. The result of which being that when he died the new King of France. Styled Louis the fifteenth was actually his great grandson. and. He ascended to the throne at the age of five. So, when you think of Louis the fourteenth and then you think of Louis, the fifteenth you think Oh, it must have been. Like his oldest son but in fact, it was his great grandson. As parents his dad must have died young if he's if he's taking the. Throne at five. Well so there was a lot of dying young but also during this period there became. A there again with the passive voice. The King of Spain. Charles the third. died without an heir. And In, dying without an heir he. Turned to his. His relatives, which is to say the many many other royal. Families of Europe cousins and whatnot cousins and cousins of daughters of cousins. And tried to appoint. To the throne of Spain one of the Bourbon Sons of the Sun King Louis the fourteenth. And they had to each in their sort of time. Like the granddaughter, Fan could not accept the. The crown of Spain because the crown of France was a bigger better prize he could have he could have but he passed on the the the Kingdom of Spain and it what it was. It was Philip. Who was a younger son? Of. The the dough fan. So the DOE fan had several kids. And his oldest son. Louis. The Duke of Burgundy all also could have taken the throne of Spain. But also pass he's still holding out he's still only out. He he believes that he is. The grandson of Louis, the fourteenth he's on, he's in line also he lives in France presumably, it would be getting shipped overseas. It happened though I mean there if you think about how long the the the British, royal family spoke German in the house. Think about all of poor Henry, the eighth swabs getting shipped in from Spain and Germany and whatnot. So wh what you ended up with was th-. Was Philip Five. King of Spain was actually the. A younger son of. Louis the dough fan. WHO. Louis himself like. It ended up that the throne of France went to his grandson. It's a good deal for him because he knows he's never gotten the French throne. But the problem with that is that. The actual the actual situation than in France starts to veer. Starts to veer away from? A clear a situation where there's a clear line of succession. The rules through the cafes and they they changed the rules a little bit the. And this time. Also, there's a lot of sort of pushing back against. SALIC law a desire to start. Being, able to. Being able to have your. Your children inherit even even if it's An eldest daughter have you ever thought that? Maybe if it's only for sounds, it should be called Phallic Law. I had never thought that what if it's only for your some of the mustache and it's called selleck law. I also had never ever thought that. I would never I'm trying right now to get it out of my brain so I. Never think it again, not a great basis for government because you could. Somebody could shave a moustache and then suddenly they'd be ineligible for the throne. Or grow mustache, and suddenly be the only one that could take over the throne like right now if there were thrown in dispute between you and I. I would be the natural candidate and it's not even something I could work 'cause my mustache would would like even with a few months to work on it, my mustache wouldn't be. Ready to go that's one of the Regal. One of the problems I've had in recent weeks where I've taken considerable issue with the American police departments. Police unions policing in general have been pretty vocal and active in challenging police power. But unfortunately, I looked like the sheriff of a Western Mountain town and have a sheriff's mustache and just look and just carry myself like sheriff. And so everyone no matter what you say everyone assumes you're complaining about. ANTIFA coming into town to. To burn down the Applebee's the problem is I don't look like a cop cops don't look like me anymore. It's just small sh like I look the sheriff of. Vail. and. That's not a bad thing. I. Look like an old timey. Cop. I wish cops. Now, it'd be it'd be a better world. You don't have any punisher tattoos. You're not doing white power signs. I don't have a utility belt of any kind of never ever ever gotten high tight haircut unless I accidentally cutting my hair and I screw up unfortunately now all cops like me. Oh that's right. They do like what was the year when cops started looking stops this started letting me. I'm more of a job than a punch. But at the same time this kind of kicked off. Or the question of of this succession because, Louis? The fifteenth didn't immediately succeed. From Louis the fourteenth there was. There was only five that way for him to be potty trained well. The problem of this situation I mean. As the sun king lay kind of in his on his deathbed, he watched the following happen. The Dough Fan, his oldest son died. While he was on his deathbed while he in the last few years of his life, he died in seventeen eleven and. Healing focus he died four years I. Guess Before His dad then a year after that the Duke of Burgundy who was the eldest of the dough fans sons. So his grandson or who was then air right who became air Also died. And then BURGUNDIES, oldest son. The Duke of Brittany also named Louis Then died. All of this happened. As. Louie the fourteenth was coughing and also being very old doctors look at his poop, which is how the Duke of owns you became. The. Then, the further Lewis became the new king of Spain. Is Louis Louis, the fifteenth, but the problem was that. The point at which Philip five was offered the throne of Spain and Philip the fifth being. Like, a son of. The Duke of Burgundy who was the son of the grand a fan. Would that created and he and he was granted that because because King Charles the second. Did Not have an air. And Charles the second was something like his mother's brothers sister-in-law some shoestring relative would that create it in Europe was it was a tremendously wasn't imbalance of power which meant that now the Bourbon. Family was going to be on the throne of Spain and France, which was an intolerable. Political Situation in Europe and it sparked the war of Spanish Succession which we? Referenced a little bit in our German Telecom. Now's the whole idea to get the bourbons out of Spain because it's like when a sports league has too many like good teams in one division or whatever you gotta bounce one, you gotta get one out you need an expansion draft something. Don We were just talking about how you and I don't even have jobs and yet we still have to do zoom calls all the time nowadays. Yeah When, people talk to me on Zoom I, just find my hand goes over to the volume and just gradually inches it down lower and all the way not all the way. But just so their voices are these tiny little whispers because I just I don't have the. Capacity to hear people did hear people's thoughts and needs no, and also the sounds are bad. You know they're talking to their computers I'm just like Oh this could always be quite imagine it would be if you and I had desk jobs and we had to have mornings staff meetings and like God forbid a weekly Zoom Happy Hour I. 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That's That's a fantastic idea, and I'm actually going to recommend this to to my domestic partner WHO's upstairs on zoom call right this minute I'm gonNA say Water Cooler Trivia, dot com slash omnibus, go interrupt or now during the call, she'll love it. Pound on the ceiling with a broom. Philip did become Philip five of Spain. And then. Philip. Charles the third. Of Spain Spain. How do you decide when you're going to say Charles Three, you're Charles third. Go back and forth I really don't have well now wait a minute I I think that. Philip Begat Louis Louis the I of Spain, and even though it's not Louis He's French heats in Spain. Louis. Louis Right. Even even though it's a even though at this point, it's a French. French thrown. French. It's a French family. It's the Spanish throne. It's going to be a bummer in Spain giving even spoken Spanish. Maybe not at first, but you know French was was a diplomatic language in the royal houses of European nations at the time who knows what they spoke. Maybe they thought it was great. Holiday King speaks French this the classiest we've ever had nobody spoke English thank God. I can go on and on let me just read you. Some of my notes, Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Blah. Blah. This is what I've been hearing for twenty minutes I. One of the major problems was if you took a throne, you often were. Asked to renounce your rights to another throughout jer so. When when the fifth as a member of the House of Bourbon took the Spanish throne, he renounced his. The right of his children to ever succeed to the French throne in the hopes that the the you know the you keep the two sides apart. Yeah At one point. During. The war of Spanish Succession it was it was sort of put forward that the archduke Charles who ended up becoming the rumble holy Roman emperor had a better claim. To the Spanish throne because his. Because of some question of how old is grandmother was and it ended up a ended up that. That Philip had a better claim. Because he was grassy in one. Thing I know Phil. He's grassy and wanted to wear. And the but the Austrian said that he had. renounced. His right. But the. But the for he renounced his rights. But the French claimed that that was based on on the idea that there was a that his grandmother had paid a dowry. Or Dower have been paid on behalf of his grandmother. And so although she had renounced her rights. The it was it was a the renunciation was invalid because the dowry had never been paid I gotta say this is still better than the Electoral College. And all of this ed where I think. I think. After, Philip had been king for a long time in Spain he abdicated to his son Louis. His son Lewis who was. Who was supposed to? Kind of. The application was going to spare some of the complications of the. Of the Bourbon You know, Hugo. Cafe complexity in job search that goes off and capulets Romulo. But. Then unfortunately, his son Louis died only seven months later and Philip had to regain the throne and ended up. Also holding the the whole European thrown for. For a really long time the Spanish throne for for decades and decades he was. He was on the Spanish throne to separate times. But rover Cleveland from seventeen, hundred to seventeen, twenty four. Then Lewis was there for seven months and then from seventeen twenty, four to seventeen, forty, six. So two separate really long title you picked the wrong got advocate to if they call you back out of retirement. Call you back in. Anyway from there. The the lines of the Spanish and French thrones. Go all cookie. Wow on of course when Napoleon enters into the equation. Like he kind of he deposes the King of Spain. He deposes the King of France. Well, the revolution does I write the revolution? Executes. Lou The sixteenth. Lou The sixteenth, and Marie Antoinette had. Three kids. And the oldest son died. Their youngest son. Or they're younger son who would have been able to the throne. Went through a kind of suffering like you would not. Believe. Possible again of Green Gables style. Yes. Although worse Louis, the seventeenth. was. kind of kept as a prisoner. By. The By the revolution. Not. Sure quite what to do with him. They went through a period where they really wanted. They really wanted the story to be that he was a victim of abuse from Marie. Antoinette and the royal family because they wanted. They wanted him to de-legitimize his parents by kind of testifying against them that they had sexually assaulted him. There was a lot of of like rumor about him having been. Misused and in particular like used as a in the misused in the basement of a pizza parlor. And in the course of. His you know short and miserable life he they kept him in a cage. They. Sort of tortured him. In A lot of ways that. That that feel pretty brutal. And then This was the would qualify as A. As, an omnibus effort episode in itself when he died. It was the tradition. Of the French family to cut the heart out of royals and keep it separately. Bury their body but keep their heart on your mantlepiece vessel and so the the. The autopsy doctor kind of. Violating the Revolutionary Code secretly cut out the heart of Louis the seventeenth Louis Charles doctors are royalist and smuggled it out and then the heart of this little boy. became a became a thing that variously was. was. Kept as a treasurer. Sort of a royalist artifact other times. It sort of for a wild got lost. There was at one point someone found it. Someone kept it in a bottle of wine for a while, and then it was sitting on a mantelpiece someone found it put it in a crystal goblet. Then for a little bit was in A. Year and Buried. With Golden Rabbit and yet in. Sussex. Of course, there was a lot of of. Question about whether it was really his heart isn't there a lot of question about whether that was really him. Who died are we going to get into that like? A double right there was it was. So that was the. That was the sort of the Romanov Princess Scandal of the nineteen, th century that perhaps. That perhaps little Louis Charles had been spirited away and had not died in his in his miserable little prison cell. And there were a couple pretty convincing pretenders to the French throne then which. Which? Because that French law was reinstated. Those contenders are those pretenders would have been. The king would have actually been the king during the mid nineteenth century. Did you know that John James Audubon bird painter extraordinary was one of those candidates who got tossed around just because he happened to have been born in. France at the same time in his parentage was a little confusing. So there was there was a claimant that was actually a native American. One of them had claim because. They were born in France at the time and they were at one point shown a picture of. Of the the nanny that apparently tortured Louis Charles and he went into convulsions at seeing the picture and that was seen as proof that he was. All? Yes. Things are going to convulsants at the right time there. There were a lot of. There were a lot of people vying for the thrown, but in very recent years. A A DNA sample was taken from the preserved, the the the still extant preserved heart, of Louis, Charles, which is now inside of crystal earn and they took DNA samples from the family members of the various pretenders and they discovered that. Yes. In fact, this is Louis Charles's heart still in this crystal goblet and he he was he did die when when twenty would act Swiss. I don't believe in switched Roosen. Operas it's a great story though the story of that heart bouncing around. Western Europe for a while. And I think we've just burned it here. You GotTa Have Heart Oh. You're going to an omnibus well, once I got into it I was like this is a this is an even better show than this. This dummy. The This coke-sniffing dummy from. Louis. All funds, Gonzalvo Victor Emmanuel Marc de Bourbon we're talking about should we go backwards from him like how? How good do you think his claim is? So here is how he here's the line. That he claims. The succession. Where he is I'm looking at a picture of any looks handsome looks Kinda dumb. He's handsome and dumb he's he's a contemporary royal which is to say kind of playboy. He's a guy that studied economics at a at a polytechnic school. He works in a bank. He's you know there's a lot of there are a lot of royals that jobs in banking and business in Europe because they're because they're the glad handers right I mean they're probably not in a back room at a terminal making trade impresses possible new account holders. Yeah. They have they have a windsor knot in their tie and and they take people out to lunch. Hour man do Dong Joo is a cousin of the current King of Spain, and the current King of Spain is not very thrilled about him. There he lives in Spain he was born in Spain, his father Prince, Alfonzo, debris urban who also styled himself as the Duke of Zhou was even more handsome than his son and a real playboy. He was a he was like one of the adjudicators of the F.. I. S. The Federation Internationale Du Ski. And, and he actually died in a very Kennedy esque way. He was shushing downhill at. Wasn't Vail. I. Think it was. This is your jurisdiction. Did you investigate this? I? Did he he? He was on a slope. That was off. That was closed because. They were setting up a downhill racing course and someone had. Strung a wire across. The chorus in order to hang the banner that said congratulations, winners missing trump and he? He. skied into it and it didn't cut off his head but it was Oh, it was it beaver creek in Colorado but it like It likes lacerated his neck and he died excuse if you think that's Kennedy esque. I would like you to explain what happened to Dallas. He drove through banner. That says, congratulations President Kennedy. So that's the problem with being one of these guys, you think you can just go down whatever you want. Well, but I'm the second cousin of the King of Spain but because he was. Because, he was a ski. Dignitary. There's not a thing there's a there's a skied dignity were a group of people that were like, no he was he was authorized to be there because not only is he the pretender to the throne of France but he's also like the the chairman of the International Federation Little Circle of Ski Right away that follows him down the hill somebody said that they were skiing with him and they were like, Hey, look out you know there's a there's a cable strung across the thing and he looked he looked over and acknowledged it like, yeah I see it, and then just ski read into it. That's privilege. A Now his father was the in funkaway behind me. who was the Duke of Segovia? And he was. The son of King Alfonso the thirteenth who was the last actual legitimate camp he was deposed in the Spanish civil war to in Spanish Frank. Okay. Largely regarded as the worst king of Spain just because he got overthrown by Franco not just that but he also like. He was the. He was the one that kind of. What he said, etc. instead of et CETERA. What's what's awful about him about who King Alphonso the thirteenth and Fontaine Hymie he was just no good. Oh, infantile hymie was just he he was a pretender not only to the French throne, but also he was. He was the prince of Spain during the whole period where there was no prince of Spain. What are they goofy has things about Spain is they use in Fontaine Infanta for Prince and Princess, and Princess aww baby. No. One puts in Funday high man, the corner and what's very interesting about our hero the Duke Dong Joo, a currently is that his. Grandfather is also or maternal grandfather is Franko. He married Franco's granddaughter. Was that right? Is he just trying to unify his father married Franco's granddaughter? Yeah. His I think his father, he's his wife Franco's great. Grandson Yeah Franco's great grandson and also descended from King of Spain also, the King of France they're all it's all like this. King. Affonso was the last king deposed his father King Alphonso the second. I just want to say you don't happen to marry Franco's. Granddaughter you that's a that's by design right I mean you're sitting around who do you know right who your friends friends grant her? There there's a there's a, there's a tricky little game that got played here can affonso the third or the thirteenth was the last king, his father King Alphonso the second was the son of the Franscisco DS's. These. Funds Thirteen. Father's off onto the second time are Alphonso the Okay Alphonso the twelfth I'm with you. I don't want to erase. L. Funds Dues I don't WanNA raise nine alphonse. Home. Alphonso the twelfth was the son of Francisco de Assise who is a? is an example of a kind of. An. Interesting. Little Familial Switcheroo he see. Qinghua when we were talking before about. About the fact that. Philip abdicated to his son Lewis who died after seven months, and then Phillip took back over the throne when he finally died, he was succeeded by. His. Half Brother Ferdinand, the sixth. And then the line of succession went from Charles the third to Charles the fourth. To Ferdinand the seventh. Who was? Widely regarded as the worst Spanish king. He was the one that lost all of Spain's American territories. Territories in the Americas. And then was overthrown by Napoleon. Charles. The third was probably I think regarded as one of the greatest Spanish kings. Ferdinand absolutely. One of the worst Spanish kings but what Ferdinand did was instituted. A What what he called the pragmatic sanction, which ensured the succession of his daughter. Queen. Isabella. So he eliminated the SALIC law restriction on a woman inheriting the throne this caused, of course, a lot of problems among the the. Legitimacy. Crowd in Europe about whose what changing the rules changing the rules? That's why that's why our our hero Duke. Dong Joo, has a lot of people that claim he's not the legitimate heir. But But Isabela to did take the throne on the the death of her father Ferdinand. The seventh. During that time she was I mean she ascended to the throne at. At a very young age she was she became queen of Spain at the age of three. And so. There was a lot of intriguing her court among people that were. Charged with. Her regions who are charged with with raising her. And and during that time, it's hard to respect to queen who will only eat. Only chicken chicken mcnuggets dinosaurs. Yeah. King Ferdinand the seventh grade. A man by the name, of Infante Francisco De Paula. Who turned out was a pretty good dude. He conspired to have his oldest son. Mary. Three year old Mary Isabella when she became when she came of age so for. And that's why that's why the Duke Don Ju can claim a bloodline through the mail. To to satisfy the. The sacred, the literalist or whatever because his. because. Francisco de Paula is the brother would be the eldest brother of. Of the King Ferdinand the seventh. So at that point. We are back to. Louis the fourteenth because. We we got back to him. From here to from from the president back because we had worked from Louis the fourteenth to the fan to King Philip, the V to Charles the third Charles the fourth and then we were at Isabella and then through in Fontaine Francisco, De Paula, we get to Francisco Ds's the Duke of Kennedy's Am I wrong that maybe his client is not that great. US Such a laborious time to figure it out. The thing is in researching this and I'm exhausted from having done it. I realized that this is true of every single royal. In the world so it's it's not unique to him. No, it's it is an insane truth about royalty that it is. It's an incredible shell game. There are people that are of their their entire. Career is just tracing not not just tracing historical bloodlines but. But even present day trying to figure out. WHO has the most legitimate claim to a defunct throne? And if you go and and look around the world, there are dozens and dozens of of thrones that no longer exist the king of Burundi the. Are you saying you're claim to the throne of? Burundi hope I haven't looked into it I want the Mormons to track it down. Well, that's the problem I mean it just rewards people who go to extraordinary lengths to prove their claim. When they're you know the normals are just not going to put in that kind of time I can't take weeks off from my fake job in a Swiss. Bank. To establish my cl- claim to the throne of Liechtenstein like the Prince of the hohenzollern family who is extensively the king of Prussia he's been suing the German government. for decades trying to reclaim all of his family castles that were taken from him. At the end of World War Two and all their art. And the German government is pushing back and saying we're your wasn't your grandfather and he And he's saying, no, it was you know the style of the Times. I mean writing crazy letter. So the government in hopes of getting a check is you know it's it's not unique to these kind of guys but the thing about the prince of the hones lawrence like he works in a bank somewhere as as a guy to windsor not but he actually owns. A soccer team three quarters of the hone Zoeller in Castle, which who knows what that generates in in t shirts and and bottle openers every you can't like turn it into condos or anything I. Don't think so and I think part of the problem is that a quarter of the castle is owned by the Cadet branch of the horns all. The several, the several is or the. Seven yards whoever but this dope the Duke of and you Do you think back to became France. He is the. Postman does not exist among the. So there's a whole school of people that believe that what France needs what Germany needs what. What we need in the modern day is a strong constitutional monarch and because a symbolic figure that unites United Nation are like they want this guy riding laws a symbolic figure but but I think contemporary monarchists. As Americans were so accustomed to and I think as just modern liberals were. Were accustomed to thinking that the progression away from monarchy and toward participatory democracy is an inevitable one kind of over and a historical one inevitable one. But you know it's it's It's extremely recent really that all this has happened a hundred and fifty years eighteen, forty eight was when a lot of the monarchy's of Europe went away but. But very recently I mean, you think about the King of Spain, that's a they re instituted the monarchy as a kind of enor- in order to have some kind of stable institution right that that everybody can be on board with because he doesn't do anything to controversy right? He's opposed. Franco. Figure head of the country and within Spain at least being conservative Catholic nation there was enough support at the time to put in a figurehead king that it made sense to do. There are lots of people in France I'M NOT GONNA SAY More than twenty percent but there are plenty of conservative people in France that would love there to be a monarch. They just want somebody on teacups. Yeah. The House of Bourbon, and particularly if he's a handsome playboy that. Will Give. The. Tabloids some fodder. and. So There's actually a competitor. Who has a WHO has a competing claim to the throne? Of France. WHO WHO's out there right now somewhere you know making a I think that I think that most people agree that the that own Rideau Orlean the count of Paris who just recently died in two thousand nineteen. that his claim to the throne is less but you know there's it there. So many different twists and turns a bunch of these guys. So but to. Manual macron I would not be quaking in my boots. The thought of any of these guys know although macron actually said at one point and it may have been an off the cuff remark or some kind of he may have been sort of throwing it out there but he said at some cocktail party like what France really needs is king just to give everybody like because. He doesn't want to be at that cocktail party. He's like now we're going to be a work I. Don't have to go to this thing. It would be a nice bonus by the way because if a if one of these guys the count of Paris or the Duke of you ever did take over the French throne, you know he also become co Prince of and Dora. Right and Dora Dora does have A. Kind of a monarchy that is always split between the French head of state and the Spanish head of state currently. King Felipe of Spain. And the president of France. So. You would also be Co.. Dora that's pretty good. There's nothing like that in the US the thing is if you were to become prince of in Dora. Dora is just one giant ski resort. So only be a matter of time watch out for those banners. And that concludes the Duke Vons You. Entry Three eight six, Dot, e c zero, eight, zero, four, certificate number two, four, four, zero, nine in the omnibus. Now without social media, we never would have seen the Duke of Angie tweeting bad hashtags about his bad brand. So thank you twitter. Just back on twitter now he's at John. Lott anymore I hated. You had a week of. Finding it, energizing you and. There was a there was a week during the the very beginning of the police rats of two thousand twenty. Where twitter became very focused and clear and and purposeful and everyone. Seemed to be pulling together and then Oh boy, it came unraveled so fast and just turned right back into a squabbling. Henhouse of. Ahead House full of ferrets. Affair at houseful hens and me promoting my book you they're like being funny and saying, Hey, checkout connections. I feel like when I tweeted about the podcast about omnibus, you're like, Hey, just so you know. It's just a distraction the thing about think about it. Kennedy's I'm. In these trying times in this economy, all I can all I have to do. I don't have to run faster than the bear. I. JUST HAVE TO BE WOKEN THAN? You. Let's stop. Now that's tough at the bar pretty high. We are also at Omnibus, project on twitter and so forth you can. Hang out with your fellow future lanes on facebook on reddit or discord. Just look for the word future links and you'll find people complaining about something probably. You can send us email at the project. GMAIL.COM YOU WANNA send us physical things we have a po box for that. Somebody somebody anonymous just Amazon. Erik Larsen's book about. The Battle of Britain about the. Blitz. Oh, the splendid in the vile and but I don't know who it's from because I. Don't think it had a little from thing in it. So each of us please tell us who sent you who sent us this Churchill Book what I what I'm impressed by I think is that people are realizing that I'm not. The only old data on the show. They're sending you lots of old dead stuff to your older but I'm more of a debt. I'm twice as much of a data twice your double dad unless you have like five secret kids dotting the West also of the two of us, which of us is more likely to be painting. When they're in their. Sixties. I think it's on a railroad table. As. I might have a model railroad finding works you already me already have figurines all around your desk. You have a little figuring a man pooping right there that somebody sent me this guy, and maybe this guy should be the heir to the King of Spain's Catalonia and guy just pooping on the ground Christmas poop. That's a pretty good. That's a pretty good claim. Oh I just got an email about this kin splendid in the vial. Sent to. US BY? Emily. Friend and supporter of the show and I have it right here. She's also the director of the South Sound Reading Foundation if you would like to support. A THAT Enterprise South Sound, reading foundation looks like. It's a literacy thing for middle schoolers. Maybe I don't know go to south sound reading dot. Org. Thank you for the Book Emily. We'll read it together. Kennel, sit on my lap and I'll read it aloud to him. I don't know what else we got somebody sent US stickers for Stockton California but they also did not say their names. We since we did the joy of cooking Mike Santa's a recipe card for banana bread, which has like beautiful artistic for. The front of the postcard shows all the ingredients. And then the back has the. And it says add desired amount of chocolate chips I'm very into this kind of. Out and say I love Banana Bread. Accidentally bought Grapes today at Costco. We already had grapes and I told my wife. Hey. Just, wait till they get if we don't need them all just wait till. They get machine. Make Great Bread. She did not think that was a good idea. You even joke your wife. I mentioned street only joke my wife if it weren't for the fact that you are you are devout and married. And your marriages consecrated, she would have divorced a long time ago. Got The only reason. If we'd just been married in front of Justice. You'd just you had some Vegas wedding it'd be it'd be split of a long time. I guess I mentioned being born in May on one and we talked about streaking because that was the number one song at the time and so Julie sent me. A birthday card with like a five dollar bill and like my grandma used to all how sweet and all my grandmother did. So in the manner of the SALIC law a you are now my grandma I I don't think did I celebrate your birthday? Did I? Did I Did I make a big cake for you that said happy birthday can bring. To remember Oh no, not instead of doing that. You did nothing. Oh now I remember. Oh. Bummer, you love grocery stores sheet kicked. Why didn't you bring me one? I should mention that you showed up today at the bunker with a box of donuts. which was a huge hit here at Shea Roderick Robison you immediately carved them all into quarters to make sure everyone got to try all the doughnuts and I'm a big fan of that maneuver. Yeah. Because you know my my daughter's impulse was to start staking out which doughnuts were hers. And in order to. Cut The baby in two. I said everybody gets a quarter of everything we also got a note from. If, I can read the. Signature Noor Lean ner lean. That's my favorite. Arlene. Certainly, my favorite Dolly Parton Austin. Wait a minute you can't tell whether it's Austin or. At this. Austin slash nearly love. Vivere episode. Okay. But I think he or she also must've loved the. The Snow Valley episode because he or she sent us an Oklahoma state flag. Small. Is it I don't know this is against the federal flag co two fold up the Oklahoma flag and send it through the mail Te. Vian and also some also. Some POKEMON. Cards? Are. We not reading these letters until we read the letters, do we read the letters on on our? Our addenda episodes available to patriots usually physical. Now, why would what would you like to read? Well, he says. He or she because it's unclear whether that says nerve leaner roster, Austin or Auburn Gene. Says Love Omnibus period best podcast comma but what is with the endings being so abrupt do we have abrupt endings? Just. Kidding. That was a pretty good one. 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Pt. 1: NBA Champ Pick Andrew Bogut on Australian Upbringing, Rick Majerus Experience, Being Drafted #1 Overall

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Pt. 1: NBA Champ Pick Andrew Bogut on Australian Upbringing, Rick Majerus Experience, Being Drafted #1 Overall

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Or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome in this is be all new all time we have. If you're just downloading this one because my guest in this and we're going to deal with andrew bogut if this your first time downloading it thank you so much. I hope you enjoy it if you do. If you don't then manner writer review I'm told it benefits me financially. More anything like. I like the beccles. You can tweet at me. At gottlieb show at gottlieb show and doug gottlieb show on facebook as well like it up. Put it out. There were two blasting out there are some great pods that we have done. And scott brooks is a two one is amazing. Jay bilas in two part one. It's amazing I just been kind of blow back super story going back to last week. gotta there's just there's there's so many a train davis heard the tremaine davis one. Wow adrain davis was the honorary captains super bowl. This year and Here's a kid who was in special ed until his senior year in high school because he was awarded state at three Parents were addicts. Is grandma adopted him. turns out. He wasn't special needs at all. He did learning disability and graduated. Sandy your state help turn that around now is educator and somebody who helps against resources to kids like him didn't previously have them. He grew up in the bay area. It's tremaine davis again. I'm i am doing my own work. But i i have a philosophy on this any come from my time When i was espn which people were always critical of espn for for promoting the other. Espn stuff but here's a thought. If you're not promoting yourself. How can you expect anyone else to writes. The same idea of competence. You don't believe in yourself out new spec anyone else to believe in yourself. I just want to give you one quick thought on college basketball and look. I have a personal goal to have on. Every coach. Who coach is going to coach in the nca tournament. I don't know if i'll get there others a couple of coaches who among their shitless plus like it's a lot But will reach out to all of them if they qualify or on some teams. That don't qualify. We're we're gonna get him on as well. So i think all of these things are are great but more than anything did pod is designed occasion to talk about current events and current stuff but also to to basketball like all the sports like. It's this big dysfunctional family. And when you see people or here people. I want you to know what they're about. And i share my own stories within it and because a lot of these people some of them friends with some friendly with But we all kind of know. It's the six degrees one degree separation. Andrew bogut superb example. So i'll i'll get you out some thoughts on the moment. The second andrew bogut was the one pick in the nba draft in two thousand five. Two thousand five just working for espn. I covered the draft on radio Since two and actually she owes three So is my third. Year was in new york city and our close rajak letty And that gonzaga crew and of course you had come over from cini coaching eastern washington and so he invited me to hang out with them after the draft and we ended up common. Have to look and find out what the what the league like bar restaurant or something must dive like three in the morning. And i remember hanging out with andrew bogut like there's no and a lot of guys in this way. Would they get drafted. They're still just kids. They're wide eyed and the nicest human beings on earth and then all sudden you give them a hundred dollars and some of them become assholes it it does happen but bogeyed was he bows different man he was just he was always what what what what the saying in college basketball is an okay g. Our kind of guy like bogeys. Everybody's kind of guy you know. Just it's an part of it is. That's how aussies are when i just i have this thing would been around so much i've seen. I've talked to so many different people from so many parts of the country world Ozzy's our our type of people and they're like they're they're just straight up. No bullshit They're honest salesman. They're flawed but their flaw is that they're just on just say what they think and they don't actually care. They don't carry negative bias into anything that they're talking about. I just feel like so ma- maybe that's all the the aussies that i've come across but i always think these blokes just the best and i have people that played australia and those guys have played australia The exact same thing that they're just the best like dude you hang out with one group of people everyday rescue life iasi's because they just have a much chiller cooler way of looking at the world and the rest of us the quick. There's a bunch of stuff on college basketball. I gotta get just being on here. I love the skin. Have you seen utah state. Play so justin being is he's originally from oklahoma his dad His dad played idaho state the ncaa tournament. And i can't wait to tell his story on this pod or let him tell historian spots pretty crazy. but i'm like a total buyer into this utah state tea as not just a team. That should make the ncaa tournament but but one that could win a couple of games in the ncaa tournament. This is after losing santomero. Who's arguably the greatest player ever which is crazy big kidney nemi keta is i mean he'll be a. I think it'd be a start in the nba but play in the nba as He's not a huge. He's probably six time but long arms. Big hands becoming a decent offensive player but to block shots without fouling Can role in. Finnish got really good. Answer huge big. Good hands catching finishing They don't really play that much older. Replace fall or rolling throat but he obviously can But it's it's more you know. They have a fresh point guard. Raleigh worcester who's from missoula montana. Due to stud stud But they have is just being who has been there forever and they're gonna be there forever because this year doesn't count and i mean i've when you play basketball coach basketball. You've analyzed basketball. You realize there are guys that and he scores but there are guys that don't maybe don't score a point but they dramatically affect winning. That's just being Byron utah state. I like these mountain west teams. I've covered a lot. I just think the more. I watch the more. I realize that some of these west coast teams Goes always like it's a little bit underrated undervalue right. He's the east coast bias. But i do think that this year it's a it's more of a real thing and the real thing comes from this real thing comes from this year especially loved teams. Couldn't travel a lot of them. Couldn't practice early on. But we don't realize that i'm gonna see usc morrow night against stanford h have a first draft pick undertake right the top ten draft with Macci oklahoma state and you start to realize that the diversity in oklahoma oklahoma state is one team has the number one pick in the draft. And the other one's oklahoma right and that those guys at this time of year become guys that can just take over games can win you a game. That's always been the case. And so if you have a pro to go along with a good team. I think it makes you a better team especially you're playing together then. Some these other schools like somebody's as she schools. Do not have pros. They just don't The mid majors. There's a distinct drop-off in terms of talent in the mid majors. Now and i'm talking about the missouri valley and tug about the bbc. I'm talking about an and i'm not trying to be a jerk. But i'm just pointing out that that players transferring up like as good as drake is at has been darrynton. Amazing job one. He's lost his top two players to injury for the year right but they're going to get the benefit of all. The wednesday had earlier and to you know his one. Nba players center transferred to minnesota. Like guys are transferring up there. And i pointed out because those teams don't have pros and you will see on the floor in the ncaa term of the team. That has the pro at the end of the game is probably gonna win the game. Because they're all teams are marginally different than one. Another anyway I just boise has a pro. And derek allston utah. State has a pro in nemi keta And i think obviously. Usc has one. I look around college basketball. And i start to and and i think maybe those underrated team undervalued team is going to be oregon. Oregon's the type of team that is going to get some eight or nine because they've had these weird losses right. They didn't have their top. Three players lost ordered state for example. And you're going to go. How good is oregon really him. Play like holy crap. They got players so there is a. There's i think there's more east coast by this year. Because i live in the west coast broadcoast also done big ten games and I think that comes is really good but a lot of it is. They have a high divorce rate have older players and the reason that the illinois for example will close better and be better in the tournament is will they have a sumo who's going to be a pro right I don't know about kofi play me. Nba but what's his role. It's hard because doesn't move out floor although but he's a monster a munster whereas you know like an iowa. I think we camp is be a player. I think dar's up slaves in he makes the nba. But it's hard who does he guard. Anyway i just that's my one minute kind of can gentle rant on west coast basketball. I think the mountain west. You'll get three teams in personally. I loved colorado state team. They feel like the hardest bit But colorado state utah state. Sending state boise state all really good clubs And sandy states gotta get him. By way of sweeping boise. Boise should get in That now but they swept utah. State for utah state implant at utah state and they didn't have raleigh worcester So i think utah state you get in and you know like i i. I think colorado state's really good as well. But if if they get less by the wayside construct. But i i've watched a bunch i've seen all the leagues and i can tell you the acc. The idea of getting seven or eight teams in is kind of laughable considering how everyone in that league knows how down that league actually as yet this time of year everybody kind of solidarity for league. Let's get a bunch of teams in one. Other thought. I guy i think as impressed by cunningham not scoring a ton as i did have having forty points on saturday right on monday. The entire focus was to on the ball. Make him get the bottom his hands and what separates cade cunningham from so many other one in duns is one i think he's completely Com- completely locked in on winning the game. Sometimes he's tried to do it by himself. And it hasn't worked out great but but he has so ultra competitive and the type of leader. He is nineteen years. Old is remarkable. I'm gonna give you feedback. I will have seen almost all these top ten kids play. Mama seem oblique tomorrow. Night but I'm blown away by the way. That hit handles himself the competitiveness. He got every position. One through five last night played every position one through five and even though his offense was limited at times a couple of big buckets down the stretch and he willingly got rid of the ball when he was double team as there is a special makeup in cunningham Let's get to the pot. Andrew bogut was the number one pick in the nba draft but his upbringing. What led him to be There's some there's some. I just i'm gonna warn you here okay I do love podcast a little bit and makes you uncomfortable. I apologize just make this thing as real inorganic as possible. andrew nye an hour and a half. And they're still about one some hijinks Australians sport there's some major stories in here as ben. ba stores in here It's it's really good you'll really enjoy. I just want to warn you like if you're a hammer to play. There's kids in the car. There's some words and language which i wouldn't wanna be playing when my kids are in the car i just would And that's it's above and beyond the usual s bob. Whatever you know but it. There's there's a like some language stuff. So i'm only warning because i didn't want to edit it. I don't want to take away from the stories themselves. And i do think in this particular case they do fit. It's just not dude cursing in the dark. Just sound cool. But i want to make sure that out All right without further ado. Here's a longtime ason now. 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That were definitely not on anyone's bucket list fighting names And then we kind of move to the next suburb over which was a new housing steitz But was a new state. And that's kind of where. I spent much harder and so we will fortunate enough to have a four bedroom house. But i i wouldn't say was in an area that you'd aspire to try and get one day right right. It's like everybody brag how poor it was but you didn't grow up broke but it was like you grew up with you know living in fantasy land. What is that. What is melbourne known for what that suburb built for. It's like if you're ossete you come to. That area wasn't well. We're grew up working class area so mainly people that will laborers worked in factories ren maybe their own small business on my father was mechanics. Good years and bad yields economically like recession throughout that. When we were kinda paul a couple years and then back to middle class and then back down just that battle of a family full The city of melbourne probably best nine four outside food and coffee is kind of what what it's nine for. Coffee karma coffee snobs down air. Sorry we you know a good coffee when we when we have it. So that's why. I struggled a little bit in america with refining good coffee but yeah food food culture in san francisco the company i was paying It was it was better than oklahoma or somewhere in the middle of the. Us where you could only find a starbucks but yeah we're we're kinda where bit self claims. Coffee snobs yeah. We can definitely no good bruce. I struggled at times to find a coffee over there. I found a few places that i'm going to get good baynes but yeah it's it's just a battle that we We have to go through when we leave. Melvin okay so you're coughing andrew bogusch drain copy. You make like black or do you have specific. Coffee drink is an espresso based drink. What type of copies not mark. I'll mix it up so right now. I've gone through phases of straight espresso in the morning. I've gone through phases of makihata. Is i've gone through phases of right now back on usually during the day. When i'm in a warm climate of an iced coffee just coffee. Milk washed I mix it up. We'll try to be multidimensional allocation so You're laterally now choice. How many shots in shots of coffee just want. Just go one shot. One shot a coffee have coffee today. Warm with no white cop and off lonzo if you haven't a lot lot is a shot of espresso or two shots espresso and then milk and then if you want flavoring it okay so then like are you do to percent new skin. You do all this oatmeal cream. Maybe not so great so none of that soichi at nine nabi full cream notion anymore. I'm off struga sobbing. Shoot for number. I'm not completely offer. Like i'll have it to be piece of chocolate or whatever but i just don't add an ad Shulami my coffee anymore. I used to be opposite. Couldn't have coffee without sugar because it was too bitter but now i've kind of appreciated tastes that taste of just copy without any sweetness. It's interesting you know. We used to have a played oklahoma state. We used to have a coffee before the game. We started that because we have these eleven. Am games for whatever reason on saturdays and so me and when my teammates star drink coffee and then when i was working at espn it was cold. It was the first time i've lived in russia. We had bad shy. I quitted chai chai she just two pound size of stay warm right and sometimes espresso based drinks as well cappuccino. But when i first started like with the starbucks thing started like colorado's man this is break new didn't realize how much sugar is in like. Oh so then. I dialed it. Back slowly weaned off of the sugar stuff. Next time you're stateside. You gotta try fills you like real cream real coffee real sugar or is a masseuse. The it's based in san francisco but they haven't la they have a couple of new york. I think it's like a small growing brands. pretty good. i mean. I do i go on. I'm like you. I spent change drinks a lot. And i changed my coffee thing. But i'm a copy stops Another without any question. That's basically why. I'm going to have as many offseason as By all these all your guys thing was like. Let's go play some ball. Let's get this like let's go drink like so this copy ahead of beer The working people probably ought to have some biz with an and get to work and be motivated But yeah i mean we definitely lock. I have have a few drinks at the end of the night is. There's no doubt about that. So you guys mechanic. What kind of mechanic would it be. Fixed he was a carburetor. Fuel injection specialists are he would basically equivalent of jiffy lube chain or or whatever and all these mechanics. They would know how to fix right. Generally because economists specialists top job. So that i would it account writer off my mom would go drive out to jiffy lube down the streets cold. She go drive down. Pick it up. Bring it back to my dad and he sounds strip it down to the basin cleaning paint. Make it look good brand. New mom drives a back. Feed it. customers gonna brand new colorado. That was kind of what my dad did. Kind of a dying. Try to an extent now fuel injection and obviously battery operated cars but a lot of Drag races a lot of people. Have up 'cause still they right is on to to function so he he still doesn't just kind of part time for fun But yeah that was kind of the way we made a living did Did he have his own. Like hot. Rod like under the always worked on at the house. He was at something. Yeah he always something. So that's kind of my passion from came from. Because i have to go to the workshop. We a lot especially on school Afford a babysitter. Or have me steinheim what i saw. I'd have to just get dragged along with my mom or dad and my dad was a babysitter as he worked sir artist remember always him can customers ties and then eat have few every couple of eight different one so that was kind. Went my passion for it. All kind of can't give up. So when did your passion for basketball star me. Always hot love sport as a young fella. Select four five six seven always both votes. You know football. Tennis sokha possible And then the seriousness of boscell Probably at about nine nine or ten where once it became organized and they joined added is low. When i do i really enjoy it. I'll didn't really think about being a professional at that. You know no one really at nine or ten years old thinking about that. I love playing the game. Watch it on tv. Whenever i could was just investing fully was up kind all in and just kind of grew from there as i went through the ranks of high school and whatnot started to get better and and enjoy it more. Never really thought about anything else. Honest with you now. You may be part of that first generation and forgive me if i'm wrong but i remember you one i of the aids. Catch the australian institute of sport and Delhi obviously was a little bit later on. I remember when i first heard about delis aimed like man we played against ask guys came in toured. We played cards. Could be unbelievable. And i remember i. I met him. And so there's this lineage of guys Your first when did you first go to my first year was two thousand two. So i'll get scholarships two thousand two and then went for hoffy. You're in two thousand. Three in august was at the university of utah. Are i guess if forming still be those big night long leak into that program. So they were there. I guess what i'd come through a snowball effect started of dover joe ingles and patty mills and aron baynes and list goes on right now. Most most of the nba lives from australia. Had some sort of affiliations the eye at some point in korea. What how did how did they find out about you. How did you get the scholarship there. What's the actual process. I was really lucky because straight. It's a whole different system to america. We didn't really play high school so at competitive bustles done on the weekends. Kinda you play for your local kinda league and then if you're really good in that suburb area then represent that whole sob against the suburbs on a friday night which is called rhett boswell representative bosman which is kind of the equivalent to a year and if you really really good starting from undis- in you represent your whole state at the national championships so seven right teams that guy who has national championships since team for new zealand as well. And that's where he generally scattered the is issued for me. Was i never made. Those things. Never made the state teams. I was always cut on sixteen. Sixteen didn't get an invite aids. I got an invite go. See so if someone got hurt. I got to go Which was which was kind of a blessing in disguise. Motivated me more. I still got to try with those guys. And then by the end of it. But i took off guard. No one got hurt. Obviously always kicking their asses but always emergency soccer and then s with guarded the national championships Logic says if you're going to see the best players you go to national championships scout. Well i wasn't there. So i thought i'm not going to get a chance to address Junior national team camps. And then i'll plant site well here locally they just got a with my name and just kinda gave me like a wolcott. Lost to the cab was in september the letter in like august to go up the camp and then i went out there and the no one really knew was that was kind of a good thing because i came in as always kids that are being national championships. That program for a number of years old. Which usually the household names from each state will help this dude. Like skinny worried Came in the first camp everyone's And then they offered me a scholarship on the first day at the end of the day. Brought me in and said we want to bring you in like. That was a huge moment for me. Because i was kind of always. I've looked in felt. I never got a really good chance to be out of politics to get a scholarship somewhere. Where could essentially at my bedroom next to a basketball game was was paradise to me or your parents like in terms of You at some point love basketball and your dad's mechanic your mom's helping him out and here you are saying i love bass and no matter how good you thought. You were an overlooked uber. Lot of like you're just emergency on the state. You're not what what were they like in terms of their supportive rose forty but i mean look with with possible especially in. Try like if your parents aren't supportive. Kids games because there's a lot of driving a lot of time in cause may must parents that deal with junior sports. Like i said america's a little different because hospital takes care of a lot of it is he's much audits. You gotta you really have to drive everywhere and you got your training sessions every day. So without them he wouldn't be getting from point to point eight eight and get their dad. I modified the backyard at one employee to put boscell at boston At his workshop as well so he kinda he always told people. I was going to be a professional You're not really if he thought that because people people don't know if he thought that just because he was my my dad was just biased but he knew how much time i spent out in the backyard. So he he he saw i am much. I love the game and it goes so bad. I'll be outside shooting the rain playing basketball in the rain and then he actually put some flood lights out for me. Boss will call it. So i could actually shoot once doc. Because he melvin. Windsor gets talking about five. A not like. I'd be out of eight nine hundred thirty one neighbors shit hiding me. 'cause bowl dancing in shooting until my mom wanted me to come back inside. So he kinda new like he saw. How much was invested. And that's thought about. And i think he always told table is going to be professional and bus. Most parents are fans. Knew like a or whatever like you know. You're crazy every parents at about naked. But he was one of those people. That was really confident. More confident than was that point. You remember calling them and telling them about the scholarship today. S i definitely. Yeah emotional moment. Like i said Just just for the journey that were my journey wasn't smooth sailing so that's cool about finally have not opportunity to be somewhere that's special united. Only twelve kids a year. That give that up cheating the hall style and then you basically pathway to be as good as you wanna be essentially whether you got college in the nba the nba in kind of the boxy But the other flipside of the is is a lot of kids made at once. It made the so. That's what always always cognizant of like make sure you use this opportunity to get. Even i just think like he now on top twelve minutes dry out but where does that. Where does it come from though. But what does that come from because like look. That's really natural for guys who think they made it yet. You're telling yourself these things like to continue motivate yourself is that is that your dad. Is that your internal instincts. How you've always been like. You're what seventeen at the time you seventeen and finally big opportunity. Great honor most. Like i made it. You're not where does that come from. Had it added his agenda. So like like i said i never got invited. I was never in the cold. Cu group as a boss move junior. Like i was never in the good teams bounced around to different teams throughout my childhood. You know the teams. So i started with the data Which was my local club Our our big big stadium. Now they got something like sixteen courts now in the gym or fourteen sixteen courts. So i was there after two or three years and then got put a third team So abe abc. Kaput masih team. And listen to bush's are left. And then went to widely falcons for season in half and then finished off sandringham. And i talked about it on my podcast. I do my journey episodes. We go through. All this and that sandra team was was kind of a team of misfits team of i guess kids that would just shunned by society and it was. It was like the perfect fit for me. I was like this big. This is why group parents parents out team tided us. Teams headed us one of the teams that had hardly any parents showing up to watch their kids was one of those one of those teams riots. beverly young back to your question. It was just like. I always was afraid of losing the opportunity. Because i never had it so once i got it i was like i don't i don't fuck this up. Yeah is that what is that waverly team. Is that where you developed your ability to screen screen legally that does rick majerus bodily off at utah. He was big on screening. If you if you make contact on a screen man. You're you're running for the rest of that session so i i learned early that if i said a screen better. You better clap buddies. Otherwise you're gonna hear it for rick. Was there any who else was asked you have. Who's your one. Remain one big dorm room. What is it's basically one kind of narrow duting as a spiral staircase through the middle and on h. Landing this three rooms and everyone has their little room but the rooms would lecture by any means you basically walk into a skinny little bit. It's kind of like a balanced beim. Gymnastics you don't want too much for your phone out of that thing your small little study disk little and a little sink and wardrobe. That's it The bathrooms of Shed on each level one bathroom next level so basically all twelve of us are in one one on one kind of toll full essentially it's a wide open and it was called like sixteen seventeen years old. You're your wife from harm living with your boys and you know. I haven't found answering getting fired stupid shit like not out of the fought of gone through that journey to be honest with you i that was probably one of the most enjoyable bases of my career was just just going through all that and all the dumb shit that we did and got in trouble and sixteen eight and goes came into play on a stop start It was a fun part of my life that i really really enjoyed. Okay gimme the. Gimme the stupidest shit shooting. I'll share stupid shit story. And then you get yours a so. I grew up. I grew go into basketball. Camp called snow valley basketball camps at westmont. College with westmont is a at a more affluent part of santa barbara. That's exactly what it is. I miss lewis unbelievable. It's right near overlooks right. so but this camp was like the best fundamental camp around. You need to have a basketball the first day so i used to. We used to go up there with a bunch of our buddies. I would do both sessions. Buddy named adam libby. In adam was it was like four dudes in a room. You know bunk beds. And so i never forget that you could pull out the middle slats that held up the top bunk and it would stay up and then somebody hop on the top bunk down the bottom bunk so And then we do. They love the icy hot in jockstrap. The the undershorts giant the as well so but at one particular night like he got out of the shower and put on some unaware. We had put icy hot in. And then i had also pulled out the slat so it was like a double whammy at once and the cat director comes in and everybody's got bed check so the camp director comes to check on us just put on these underwear. Any hops in the top bunk falls through on the bottom bunk. Right now did laughing. he's mad. He's pissed any stand up and now's ball island. Twelve and thirteen at the time is just give you one hijinks. Andrew bogut australian institute of sport. Always we had. We had it a lot like sewage stories. That rs right we have. This is a pretty disgusting one. But that's okay. I i told off as well but at the when you're under eighteen you have to sign out when it'd be leaving. Campus campus like atmosphere. Up when you're under eighteen when you're when you're under eighteen you can't really go out and potty. You got to be back at twelve thirty on saturday. And i think it was ten o'clock on a week night so bandaids guys on myself. Go potty older guys so the eighteen year olds. We haven't seen that could go potty. Drink their clubs. Whatever so they go out one night and they come back at like three or four in the morning come back to a block and they wake myself in an animal and who shall remain nameless and So we have these kind of network phones. You can call china's room just on those regular wide also finds that kids these days probably don't know about and I call msa mason bullshit back at three. In the morning they work in the stop it making shitload annoys. That went to the top top level room and the potting nicotine on the partying. Something we're going to do something. So i had a bunch of fire crackers right so a lot of fuel days in trauma under the door so i throw a few under the door while in the room goes off by saying nothing that it reacts so the teen of mine who i know who ended up playing with later on it'd be like auto bugs ignore him only pissing off if we ignore him right. All of us pissed off the they got. I got no pushback which is what i wanted right. So i'm like man. What can we do not block. Like everyone has their own room and adores. One really locked him because we had a main door at the front so you just you went to someone else's ruining leader dole so for my teammates that i'm with you guys all told you about the sinks right because i'm going to go under the shit out. Some someone say so like you had to do it. I'm guessing it up like there's no way he's going to do it like three in the morning. Like how can you just shit on command like do it right. So he goes downstairs was a team as and And he was kinda mora Agnes to but he was a quiet guy wasn't wasn't really he's the one that happens to be open right on the bottom floor so my friends. My teammate goes down. There jumps up only seeing squats down here drop on the sink and i'm just like no no way. He's really done it right so all goes. He may like davison solitaire from the bathroom toilet paper. I bring it back. Give it to him. Watches us puts it in the gut puts the papers and the guy's been leaves the sheet missing so then we we got back to bed right so i can't sleep. I'm just sitting in my bed. Like i'm just waiting to this. What's going to happen. He he the door open from the top top landing so like arcade. They're eventually going to bed so that you hear ever go down to their room. You hear everyone's door Guys in the bottom he gets there lost about three minutes later. You skill what. The girl just losing. He's losing it so you just click everyone else's doors open up again like what's going on these big things on a team another teammate comes to buy room knocks on my dole. Is i know it. Was you shit like that. Once you do that he was he was ready to fight me right. So i'm like hey if you wanna fight. Let's do it obviously didn't do it. I take out. But i'm just like i didn't do it. It was not me but if you wanna fight we can go it. Kinda calmed down to the kid got his shit in. He picks up the ship with a stick. Walks out into the common area. Throws it into the wall right now these stuck onto a wall and kinda like kalac drip down the wall right. So he's like just a shit streak on the wall. So then the coaches find coaches find out s. Find out after the block down right that the call the local council do came into a hazmat suit full has met like with the backpack and the ghostbusters strike. That's close the book down. I think we got kicked out for and he was eight ten hours. That's like spray. It all down kosov alert like people can get sick so we basically selves out about block for ten hours and it was like a big deal. Kid let's go suspended for disgusting shoeprint but it's like the new contract tracing on the on the ship that's pretty much. Yeah mosques a couple of weeks but it's a disgusting one that people will seek funny someone but when you got a group of sixteen year old boys together dump students use. Nope no question okay. So how'd you get to utah. Long story but coach ken shields. Who's a canadian Yet his fingerprints on steve nash. Back in the day and it comes back to australia and saudi and was finished macharia. You gotta you gotta commander recruit this guy and they recruited me very early. I to ask you about me. And then i i just kinda stuck with him and Are supposed to go over at the end of two thousand food. It's supposed to come christmas and red shit that that christmas till following you and it's not my freshman year and then i got strewn with some transcripts Basically aa demand ineligible. Because i didn't have enough sites credits. The class Sports studies in strata was half social hot physical credits and being genius. I asked said well. It's either one or the other copy. Copy physical copy. Social kobe off half. It's one or the other so then ought to put those credits towards oh short on the other side. So then i couldn't go. Rickman jurist pretty much went nuts at that assistant. That was recruiting me. Because he blamed him set him on like a year recruiting body and see him once. I got to utah. So in one day john finds him for it. But i've actually got over. The next year was a judson donny. Daniels was named soobee. dominquez so yeah so he. He was tiny silver thirties. Like you in serbia together had to be the most bizarre combo ever one minute this he was recruited from from remotely right so he was kinda. It was him jeff. Strom was involved as well. But then he leave marquette and then carrier up to up came on later but they pass it on to and that he was involved with just my conduct communication sending me letters. They just gave it to him. The do of edmund type stuff and then when the transcript impossible. Aa rix blamed him. And the like i said i i saw the guy. He came to one training session hall. Freshman year of swearing. Begin crazy. what what was your first year like anorexic it was i'm not gonna lie He was resting pace preface. It that way. And he was one of the best possible minds of plateful he was a genius possible was like he. Thirty points. scores playing against Thirty against this. They did that shoot. Twenty percent He he was we would never be underprepared. He was unbelievable as far as that went Spicing execution time in school. Unbelievable but he was a coach. That would make you question how much you liked to get. Love the game everyday everyday not one not one minute you stay with him you. You wouldn't question that. And i saw a lot of kids with a lot of town. Quick completely transfer height life. Hey bastable because it was. It was a mental battle daily. Be you know it was very very very odd. He wouldn't he wouldn't be able to coach we with the way things are going really take. One person is sitting there and record a training session. But they're finding it'd be gone you know because He was he was very very odd. It kinda helped helped may get to where where i am. But at the same time it. It was a struggle time seek. Didn't know a person. When i got off the plane you. He was tough it he did he you there take on the floor with. You're now that was that was. Yeah that was. I think he is before where he said. Yeah you gotta play sheet you championship but added that story. But he used to do so much crazy. Sorry much crazy stops so so. Here's here's a story. I i heard. And i heard trump but when when he left right so i'll give a. He recruited me to transfer from notre dame state but mark. Jackson didn't play with you your first year right markets your point guard he quit. He quit because he quit. Because and again i maderas called on the seaward was the only name he would call him. He wouldn't call mark everyone to see. But yeah but not that. Martha raddatz marquis whitcombe jackson. You just call four letter seaward. And so when. Jack letty got the job. Came news office and said like hey coach you know i like to play should have i got one like i just i one saturday requests like i just one basically one thing is like what is it. What is it like will you promise. Never call me and he was like done. Would he's like 'cause. That's the only thing that rick would call me and made its mark jackson. What's crazy about it is mark. Jackson is the jazz player that was toughest shit like donald loose balls at a three point. Shot you time at school. Do anything you say girl through that. Will he do it. And you just like your ailing. The one guy. It's like the pitta me of what you coach for what you want at your players but it was it was great to get him back But yeah like that was daily use. Use that word it. Was you know it was all stuff man. I go back to australia. He your high school coaches were idiots. Who the hell coach that morons like everyday man you like laid out that up at all. Speak about it in. I just did a utah portion of my journey from freshman year on the road bugs. Podcast austin are still remember. We had high school coaches comes. Watch out practice run time and because of the amount like is watching out practice session and he'd be like excuse my language. Aj cock suckers up here watching my watch my practice. Their writing down my place near little notebooks. Defense and rebounding. That's what wins games. I don't know shoot about execution. You dislike these coaches are up their guests like and they just like what do we do. What do we do. But that's how he was. He was just you know he'd be cussing out on the road. Shootarounds god forbid agenda came in the arena ball watch. That was in the fiftieth fiftieth. Just him to start lighting into the fucker up. Hey what do you dislike. i'm jennifer. i'm just playing the lift of popcorn. Wasco people to show you how easy it is to file a claim with geico. We hired a soap opera star. Me my car has storm damage to file a claim. Go to possibly get worse when my claims team leave me for someone else. Someone less intense. No actually when you file a claim with geico you get your own dedicated claims team. Who promises to stay with you throughout the process. I've never known such loyalty. 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Shed are confidential and toll free helpline at one eight eight five three two three five hundred. Let's make it interesting with william hill. Sportsbook team that went to the final four. He was recused. He was recruiting. Meet says his ninety ninety seven of spring of ninety seven. No yes spring ninety seven yes a nice six seven recruited me and I wouldn't notre dame got in trouble occurred. Starting his freshman a sat out jere college in southern california and so he came in. I would practice with the team but not place. I didn't lose a year. And he brought jeff judkins and i donny daniels and tracks for two hours and then we talked and then everybody left and then he closed the doors and they work out like another hour and a half so yeah can play like. Let's go get somebody so we go. And they're playing uc irvine and We go and eat. He was telling me about how he's a diet he's trying to watch. Meanwhile like i got like a burger fries. And i look up. He's eating my fries. And he's asking me burger and cellini order the exact same burger. I had what i remember about him is. Obviously i remember like how we treat. People is crazy but also remember like there was a level of discipline that i had never seen for the ever where he would say like again. Bent horn was team. Hana metal skies to two lights and go back to coaching and fucking keep. That horn gets back behind the line. Printout sprints back and it gets back into drill. You know some coaches you're like. Hey go give me a laugh or go. Relied guys are whenever because they're mad like there was none of that shit so it it's crazy that he was borderline of but it did work and it was an incredible level of discipline as a guy who like do look. You're smart dude. You're free thinker young. Your you'll fuck around with anybody. How did you handle the discipline. Nature odyssey taking that your away from home. Ls to hide you handle somebody demanding all of these things of you which i just wondered how you personally held that it was a battle at times like just just because it was every night that that was you the moment he walked in the gym. The moment he left it was both the wall. And i think that's where i think at times. Maybe if just once a month. He gave some positive reinforcement. You'd be cool like but that wasn't him. And the thing that shocked me most was like assuming Probably about a month or two and just railing to me. Relative to everyone wants session. He was on me for like three hours straight. And then tell me everything. Back to a strike coaches sox blah blah blah blah and then. The decision ended. We walked off the court literally. Thirty centimeters from the sideline and he. It's by paula. Zahn rambis and high bogut. How are you doing anything. I take you out to eat. You know genie clothes. You dislike mad scholars. Just braley meet for three hours straight. Tommy on the worst worst recruit ever. He regrets recruiting me. And then that's just how he was. He would try to overdo the of course stuff because he knew deep down like he was he was. He wasn't told the line he was way over the line. at times. You will try to fix that by going over the top of the court with making sure that you were good and look. I think he had yet a good hot deep down but he was just. It was an intense crazy. Not just You know. I definitely got better onto him and he told me so much about especially defensive. End and time in school was a big one. He told me about and i take that shot right now. We don't need that all you know. I had no idea about that coming from mistrial. So he he was definitely had at his imprint on y on kinda the way i play. I'm trying to think who the player was Psych david's mother and he he I've been david jackson who transferred out. There matters a lot of guys trips rather but So the gonzaga guys they told me i think. Jack's yes. yes. David jackson portland harbour. So david jackson In nineties he was there in ninety six ninety seven ninety seven ninety eight and he played at the game and he transferred to work so the story goes visited gonzaga. And those guys guys are all of us right like they're smart assets. They're really funny. And so they sit down to have a meal on his recruiting visit. And they're like are. We can't eat to give us one rick store right now. He's like right now. We're not ordering any appetizers no drinks no nothing one rick story so it goes okay the other day. Like whoa. you gotta go with the other day. He's like yesterday those nor does david jackson. Y'all he's a sophomore like fifteen a game frustrated and he decides i am going to maybe wanna leave. And so before christmas break that goes into seek. Looks like we'll just wait 'til after chris. Sprague see how it goes. You know so Because back after kris christmas break like knocks on the door and rick answers the door in his hotel room in a towel so because the guy was always naked right yup yellow so answer door style and david come on come on just yoga. A shower know so. Can i get you anything. You got bridge for whatever they gonna rigs okay listen. He's like in holland. Listen i really hard for me. You believed to me crew to me. Play me some looks up and rigorous and out out so now he's sitting goal like all right like Wakes up jim. I just want to ask my released right. Man-to-man face to face racing family right right finally wakes up. Oh david did. I'm so sorry so sorry. Eric is like yeah. You know that occasionally just makes me fall asleep. And he liked peels back and he's like got swollen ball a little ball like ricca. I want my release on the transfer about like lily. Never talked him ever again because he shot him as big swollen ball because of some medications. i'll bet. He said he used to wear shorts though small sedan practice down to the bottom of the basket stanchions. He's not to be hanging out. Recruited me he actually came out for visit to australia. The forty eight hours and played in a rural city outside of melbourne. I drive back with my junior coach carrier up to drive and the same thing with sleeping. He he would be like he was rarely me about the way i play because i played. Shoot that game bogut. You need to do this do that. And then he snoring mid conversation just thought snoring and i'm just like looked about. Junior coach will carry. Just one of these like i don't know and then somewhat cool long drive. I can kind of just look out the window and chill out for a bit. And then fifteen minutes later he'd wake up and the conversation from where he left it so decided this dude like they'll red flags already. I should like a crazy came to my team. Dinner with my mom and my dad was just saying New table mama dad's about children with asd. Okay i got con son to great opportunity. Like one of those onesie Why party at the table. Yeah like he. He didn't he. He did not care and I had a friend of mine who was from compton. California who's was cheney chinese. I think it was from that area anyway. And he said that jersey recruiting visit was put on a big faced african american family and rick eight and they just went and fell asleep on the couch critic. Visit with the bears. You dislike what are you doing so they just like sitting around looking at each other. What we do is sleep on the couch. Just like non-fox giving wakes up on thanksgiving just leaking sign a crazy man but as the beauty of the beauty of people that apply frequent jersey. Exactly what you just get on is when we catch up it just the stories. Go up and it's just so funny. Because i wanna play with kevin. You played at university of saint louis sees out here. He's a naturalized american but he played from saint. Louis so we will just. We'd go out to eat when i play with seasons ago. Just tell stories. This hour's lose track of time. It's hilarious d. So here's what. I always got socks. My coaches at heart has said an and they were and they were brutal to us. But i felt like it was like they would create this them against us intentional and it made us closer together like we were young to this day. We're super close. All the guys. I it was like one dude is out there. We don't like associated with but everybody else for like super close with. Did it do that. Where made you guys because you all hated him. It made you somehow like a genius. Coaching technique to it yang strategic by him But yeah. I think that you're definitely right. Whenever you have a hot off coach. I think it does bring the plane together even somewhat the assistance are probably even closer to the players and they should be because they know they have to like give a few more hugs and and you know try to keep gosh chins up because just audit times but yeah you definitely about point. I think any any hot coach players if the players to go least you see it in professional sports a lot. That coach doesn't last very long. I so rajak. Letty gets a job. What what was what was that like. It was interesting. Because at the time i really wanted care up to get the job. He was a hit assistant. He took over when rick left. My freshman year did a pretty good job and we all loved him and then it kind of hurt when he didn't get it to be honest because we didn't know much about about ryan. He came from a smaller school in gaza. Kinda like what the hell and they came in with with a lot of karma thoughtful type offense a lot of back cots princeton type stuff and a lotta guys struggled to. I guess buy into that. But then what's i realized he was a great person. It was polar opposite of of kind of what they've dealt with with rick that you he wasn't gonna drop the bomb he wasn't gonna cost you addle session it far out when you needed to and for me it was. It was a godsend we into an early We had a few run into early. You you and once we never looked back and he let me basically gave me the case to the team. Said you're a guy don't as far as you take us. It was a really good year for us. Know yet had a great year. Okay so the year gets done. What's what's the decision in terms of pros coming back such while. The the my sophomore year went on. I went from late dress round. Pick before my sophomore young. That's projected. i had a really good olympics are full. Planning is the dream team in the. Us ala countries in guardmen essentially. So light i the minnows bid by of the season it was like these top five picks folks. I wasn't really ready to go to the to be honest with you. Body was like i was still to twenty five that time back in an era where they were shack yao dwight howard. You need to be two fifty to sixty eight compete. I wasn't gordon's my body. And i could've put on white for shit no matter what i did i- burgers pizza and fraud like what iraq would could've put on white took me a while to grow into my body so i knew i wasn't ready physically but i'll be an idiot poss- a chance to go top five come back for another year Something happens also advised the longer you stay in college. You might get nitpick david moore by scouts. They might not nitpicking little game. So tawny was i had to go. Ray was awesome about the school was awesome. He was like. I'm not letting you come back. If you wanna come back you need to go to the nba. You're ready you kinda too good for college. We don't really have anyone that's gonna make you get better you're going to be top of the totem pole. So you need to get your teeth for a couple years to get better. That was constituted Mentioned the oh four olympics. What what what's it. If you close your eyes and you think of the defining things that you remember about representing your country which is incredible and playing at that level basketball. What do you remember just the culprit. A may come back for my sophomore year because i applied against grown men and held my own. That's a really good game in An dismayed me. Finally realize i can play literally against an indiana level. So when i got back to college i felt like i was playing with boys again. I felt like i was. I would say i was arrogantly above them. But i just felt. Like i was abandoned bunks boys trade that way just to kick. Everyone's is freaking out. Because i felt like. Hey i was just i'll give it a. Tim duncan hold modern against him dunkin one of the best of all time. It was nineteen years old so that gave me a huge confidence boost going into my sophomore year in college. What about the fact that you had gone from emergency guy and not making those teams to being on the olympic. That had to be pretty. Yeah two years. Essentially that was crazy king lot. I went from beta relative. Nobody in the basketball world and then from two and a half to three years the number one pick like it was it just came together so quickly for me and i guess placements next next next thing and that was my mentality. It was results cannot keep next. Where am i going. Who can i go. Where i get my ass kicked a little bit. I can get better. And that was kind of always what i had in my mind as a young fellow and at i wasn't one of those kids that was a prodigy from eleven twelve. Thirteen that you just use that kid. Lebron james on williamson that he's gonna get fired. It was like without of come from like. Why don't we know about him number. One pick you know and I'm pretty proud of that. Yeah i was. I don't know if you remember. We actually hung out at a bar. Some random bar super late night draft night you guys had ever had bogeyman hats on and and and it was. It was a late late long night to to go from that to the number one pick in the nba. Did you know that. Buster taking your number one. They wouldn't tell me they wouldn't tell me so. They wanted to keep the element of surprise. So we we we kinda asked Grilling him agent was a little bit but they they wouldn't show us hand. What's it like i was. It was amazing. I mean dose. The of sixteen years ago sixteen years ago off a long time ago. But when you're in the midst of the nba career that goes quick but just that draft process having my family de just journey that i take from for me. A young young fellow to to go be stage number. One like playing like nba basketball professionally. Destroy you told me at twelve fifteen. Like someone's gonna pay you give you money to play basketball widow. i saw. I never thought it'd be. I was it was a fantasy. It was like it was that fantasy. Tv charlotte you just knew like never going to get there but it'd be nice to get there and then i got the earned it was like wow actually hit okay so you get there when you got your first bucks. Team is weird niche right. You had nike j. Four was young point guard. I had some old guys. you have. Toni kukoc tenure team as well What were the. How are the old guys here. They also had johnson's basically brought johnson back for season. Basically dimensional million me he was was basically. He's role was like take care of bugs. It sit on the bus newbie where we go on trips and give me the scattered report. Going to the raiders new after we land it's minnesota high located. Does this. it's going to do this so he would. It was a really good mentor for me Tiny coach was was an auto of mine as a kid. I was kinda surreal to be my rookie. Was his last year. Attorney was kinda burn out at that point. He was kind of a to an extent angry veteran. Great debates all. The buddha was caught on a on a knife stage to just snapping every day but it was found out. I mean as long as tardy eighty and holds a golfing. He was We had mockery obviously desert. Mesa was there Russell place Trying to piece it together but it was an interesting transition for me. The i doubt was there a moment like a welcome to the nba. I think your first game was against chris. Webber like your first nba game. Was alan iverson. I'm looking alan iverson. Chris and chris webber by the way they had andrea dolly. Kyle korver chris. Webber alan iverson in their starting lineup. Do you remember that game at all. i do. i remember we. We saw that game at the end. I think we will pretty close to all game. And then one that one in new jersey in one another. But yeah i mean it was just a real big sacramento kings fan. When they had beautiful ball movement back in early two thousands Op de inside. I new see web. I watch a lot of his games and it was kind of surreal to be out there and competing with actually having a good game. Open up working very you know it's interesting. Here's how i felt like when i played in europe when i've seen aussies play is that i think there's a respect for american basketball. We respect how good those dudes are. But you don't not you personally. But they don't love how americans play in that. I always feel like the ozzy's feel like they're a little bit tougher there more about team And you know it. It's it's more. It's definitely five playing as one whereas the american especially nba basketball. It's an shot clock. am's better than you. i'm gonna jump up and make shot and so it was like a is like a respect but maybe not is that is that accurate or just sensing that that especially like. I don't think the spaniards so let's wanian the italians. america stop asked ball but especially the nba and maybe the persona of a as an australian who's played. They're playing for the national team and played in the nba. Is that fair sense of how our game the nba staff game is. Look we as a national team just for strikeout. We know we're not gonna out talent. The us like most countries aren't gonna tell him so. We have to rely on having a good coach. Jock moving the ball play the right way set good screens all the things that we generally now the us team. What do 'cause at the end of the day like you said the. Us can just sell it to kevin durant with steph curry and be like a bucket you know we. We don't have that luxury we have to. We have to be clinical with execution. We have to box out. You have to get rebounds content continental bowl ever so yeah. There was an argument to that. Be they can have a horrible game and and still you just based on talent but as far as possible purity. You obviously from me personally. I like to watch the teams move the ball and where everyone's involved i'm kinda. I'm not a huge fan of violation basketball from viewing perspective. I like to see sneaky. Sets kid is would boulder It is nice to see a guy like you up. thirty five just gets hot. That's great fantastic. But as far as some guardrail fifteen twenty times to get a shot up. I don't enjoy watching that. Some people do no. I don't either it's like i said it's james hard time. He's a great basketball. And i think he's better than roklin fantastic. I can't say and watch play. And i'm no way indicting his talent. It's the way in which town was used especially in houston totally great. It's just not an. That's the way the game's going. It's become a Game and it's become shoes. We should reason you would probably gonna have a better chance of winning. A of just how to watch and that's might be the old man made now. I'm not all that all city cool full. The late now is not a case that shield the generation. I think each generation gets better than the previous one. But it's the way the game he's now it's just not as fun to watch okay. So you were in milwaukee for like seven years. I did you know that they were thinking about i asked to be moved. So two thousand gone through that injury. Ron khanna just just got out of it Walkout year two thousand eleven. Twelve i come back. I asked you know the thing with milwaukee was were evolving dole for so many years like every year. I'd come back and we'd have eight or nine ten faces new players and how to build something. How are we going to build a culture how we're going to build continuity like when you have that many faces it's just not gonna work. We're a small market team. We kinda just just don't sign free agents make trades and try to hit home runs and they kept trying to do that I went in and just said look. I think i've i've played out what i can't hear. I think it's time to move off the bucks invest and i said. Now we're not moving. You gotta get value back for for good center in the you know you're still very valuable to us. And i was a little league in walks the season before really coming to mind defensively and they just and then two weeks later called larry shoots a florida tries to chase. His floated down undercuts. Me a break my ankle and was then out for the rest of the season. Jam was Time coach zeta the time. That's make a playoff push. And they thought moshi both gonna play the rest of the season. You can get some value back. We'll move him. Got traded from montreal. Us we didn't help them get seed in the playoffs. And i went to golden state. Okay so that's the end of part one of andrew bogut which of course makes you have to listen to part two which has warrior stuff Warriors cav stuff What happened in that series. When they're up three games to one was like to have to watch when they lost the nba finals. How do you balance that out with coming back to regain one down to oklahoma city. The exact same year what it was like to leave golden state. What is like to watch them win. A title without him. What is he. Think of kevin durant. What does he think of stepford. What does he think of. All these guys would see. What was the difference between mark. Jackson and steve kerr all of the come. In part to meantime remember you can listen to it. I got choked three to six eastern poultry pacific every day on fox sports trading on the iheartradio app foxworth dot com or download. That podcast where you want. Thank you so much less. Remember subscribe downloads. Dr rate and write review for all. 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The Spawn Chunks 100: Many Respawns Later

The Spawn Chunks - A Minecraft Podcast

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The Spawn Chunks 100: Many Respawns Later

"And the ran the distance starts here. Good morning jol good morning, Johnny, the render distance. Yes. We should probably explain to everybody who has tuned into the main podcast feed this week. Welcome to the extended edition of the spawn chunks, which we called the distance, and it normally goes out to AL patrons people who've pledged to support the show on patriotic on. But in celebration of this being episode, one hundred of the show we would release the extended edition for every body so that you will get a peek behind the curtain about what it's like to be part of our patriotic community and so that you can hear A. Little bit about the you know here a little bit of the Chitchat, that Joel and I usually share before we start the main show, which is sometimes minecraft related sometimes, just a little bit of stuff that's going on in our lives what we've been up to lately, and of course, if you WANNA skip this, get straight to the minecraft segment of the show we completely understand, but it's you know we tend to wax lyrical on the show anyway. So I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind us just chats here a little bit beforehand. So, what did you do this? We can do anything fun this weekend. I. Dipped back into dungeons and dragons with my usual group. After having leveled up lost time and done like a very brief seeing this time, it was more open world exploration for them. I kinda gave them a bit more of an open ended scenario whether just set loose in the city and have a few places that they can go. They went and got their weapons re forged and had a chat in the pub about the way the plot has gone and the motivations of the villain which. Is Pretty exciting to hit your play his talk about something that like in my head I know more or less what is going on with the campaign, which is a homebrew thing I've been working on myself. So I'm I'm writing the plot sketching all of these characters and a lot of it is like improvised in the moment, and then I build on that when I take full whatever the next session is going to be right and now Hearing the players talk about what they think is going on and how much they've got right and how much of it they are still like way off the mark on is really fun for me So yes, I'd from that they they jumped back into another ruin dive, which is wha they've been calling the sort of exploratory dungeon crawling stuff they've been doing under the city and I who are listening to the show who haven't heard the render distance before my dungeons and dragons campaign is taking its cues a little bit from the procedural generation of Games like minecraft and mine craft dungeons in that I basically have the players roll the dice and I have A. Set of options for what the next room in the dungeon can be So every time they roll defoe I'm choosing from full options, and then that is what whatever comes up on. The four is the number of the room that they go into in my notes, which can be a puzzle it can be a monitoring counter. It can be like a couple of other things and adds an element of fun randomness and exploration for them that I think is kind of cool. That's really cool not to mention that because you've prepared these for. Four scenarios for example, it takes the. Decision making out of your hands but it. It means that you're not like guiding them through if that makes like, yeah, there's there's there's choices and then there's chance. And that that enters in. That creates a more interesting I think adventure especially if like there's a situation where they're holy not prepared for a monster encounter and that's what they roll. Exactly. Like I think one of the major complaints I have heard about dungeons and dragons campaigns in the past, and it is one that mainly applies to stuff like the podcasts I've been listening to because I am ready to be much of a part of any dungeons and dragons adventures myself. This is like my first campaign and I am deeming it but I've heard that people really don't like being on rails and the the group that I am hotel coral still first time plays themselves. So sometimes a little. Bit of guidance helps them, but I also want them to have an experience where they feel like they're exploring the environment and it's throwing everything at them and the I also don't want to structure a dungeon in such a way that it becomes either obvious what I am trying to do with all repetitive for them and I want them to feel like they have agency whilst also kind of casting themselves to the whims of fate every now and again. So it makes it exciting for both parties in this because. On the one hand I, don't have to do I have to do a little bit more work preparing all of these things but I don't have to worry about is this all going to be in service of the plot and this stuff is a lot more like the loot grind that happens before they get on with the story missions, which is the way I've been thinking about it, and that happens a lot in other video games that I play as well. So it's kind of fun to play around with stuff like that. I'm a side mission junkie I. It's one of the reasons why I still have never finished quarter lands to just because I. Just I keep wanting to complete all the nodes in my area before von and it takes forever. Yeah. When it's a good game and that's something that's really nice about that is that you know for two reasons one I'm a completion est I'm aware of that but two I just I genuinely enjoy the exploration and finding what's out there and and and in. A lot of cases it makes the game easier for you. Long term it takes longer. But because of all the stuff that you've found orders, there's any kind of monetary system in a game like borderlands. Then you end up with much better gear because you can buy better stuff. You know that that really difficult Boston counter like admit game you're just Kinda like well, it was difficult but still survive because I had this like you some. Yeah. Some amazing wepener ability or something like that that you've unlocked far ahead of other players because they went. Solely story vision. You know, yes I'm a big fan of like the grind and the kind of like side quests. Full rewards approach to stuff like Japanese all PG's also have this switches like the games that I grew up playing rarely was that you know you could breathe through the main story and it might be a more balanced challenge for you if you didn't do any of the side missions and get like the secret weapons from the ultimate dungeons and that kind of stuff, and then you go to the final boss and it's actually like Experience I was very much not that player I was the one who go and do all of the optional stuff and beat the optional bosses before the end bosses who are largely speaking very underpowered. By the time you've done everything you can do in like a final fantasy game, for example, and so yeah, I'm trying not to get that way with the dungeons. And dragons stuff where I just give them stuff. That's GonNa make them Opie by the end of the fight. But then that's the cool thing about DVD as well as being able to make a few extra numbers on the fly and you can scale the encounters based on the party's abilities instead of being programmed ahead of time like it is with with RPG's. Yeah Video Games but yeah, it's it's been a really fun experience. We're actually looking to do a little bit more. In. The future because a couple of our friends have just peripherally Hud playing d. d. now and asked us have that's going, and while obviously we're still trying to do things remotely. We're thinking bringing in couple of other people and doing like a couple of one shots and Yes. Some friends who've been interested but haven't played before or have not played for a while. We could potentially. Yet bringing a couple, people do like little one off sessions here in which would be kind of fun. I know I've mentioned this ages ago when we first started talking about Dean my tabletop experience, but one of the first times if not the first time I played tabletop RPG was at a convention called not in Utah years ago and it was a one off star wars RPG sore. You were very familiar with the world. So it was net what's Nice about that is that as they were describing what was going on, you know what battled Reut looked like so You you. You can imagine the scene and you had to kind of. Set up the scenario in your brain but you had the visual reference from all the movies and video games that you can just kind of like piece together as to what was going on very clearly production the production design is done for you basically. Yeah. Yeah. The Art Direction was all done and so so that was really cool and it was a lot of fun and we had like a mixed bag of people there was no jet is that was the rule But. We had like an easy walk with a little blaster we had wookey. Can't remember what I played. I might have been the wookey or it might have been I might have been like a smuggler type character, but it was cool. We had to be scenario is basically just like get into the hanger. And get access to get into the hanger and get access so that you could get on the ship and escape and the battlecruiser trying to block your this game, and so there was some puzzle things, open doors, and then also some some battle with the joints and went on it was fun. It was it was really cool. The one thing is nice because. For people that don't know they WANNA, try India they want to get into it, but then they just don't want it. They don't necessarily know if they can commit two weeks upon weeks of regular play yet campaign stuff when when I started out with Migrelief by wrote a one shot and said, well, we'll just do this to see if we like it and it turns out they did. So he kept the same characters and we kept going. But yeah, it's There's there's a couple of other systems that I want to try out the some that are way more complex and some that away most simple The one of the other podcast I listen to you started in Aachen, a newly developed PG that I think they are still the only ones who have full access to like the core rulebook like an early draft of it at least but the system is called still fleet and it takes place in like very, very distant future Sifi setting which I think is phenomenal is the kind of stuff that I grew up reading when I was like in my mid teens. Old kind of like sci-fi masterworks of the seventies and eighties, and it has very much that like very weird take on what Sifi with real aliens could be. And yet, there's some this cool systems out there I just keep hearing more and more about it. Now, I'm more and more entity. In DNC ways it could branch out from that where the podcasts that you're listening to. For D I've been listening a lot to the adventures zone especially some of the earlier episodes of that very fun and they have some really nice like short arcs wherever sort of six to ten roads that are very thematic and there's a couple of really good examples of like carefully plotted aren't scenarios in that adventure zone is gone through a couple of different. Some other systems and then back to playing D. and D. for their latest campaign friends at the table is one that changes system basically every campaign they do and right now they have a system accountable it's cold, but it's got a lot of Mexican stuff in it. So it's much more of like Saifi Gundem style not not Gangnam style. Gundem. Smile. Setting for it and yeah, there's a few others fun. City is the one that was playing shadow run and is now playing still fleet. There's also a D. podcast that I recommend frequently. But with the proviso that it is a very adult show, which is called Rue. Roots, Tales of Magic which is dnd, but yet very explicit and hilariously funny if you're into that kind of thing. But if you're the kind of person who volks swear words and Lewd stuff definitely avoided, it will not be for you. But yeah, anyone who's into adult humor and wacky stuff of the kind of like I want to say a Rifkind multi level I. Don't know if that will be an insult to the creators of retail exactly how they feel about. Rick, and Multi in general tends to be kind of a controversial show but. Yeah it's. It's that sort of level of like Brash brazen kind of humor that really kind of sets the tone of the show. I do find it tricky sometimes when you're recommending podcasts having spent now several years doing minecraft content minecraft podcasts with you. Lots of stream stuff like that I'm always self-conscious of passing people onto another content crater or podcast or something that I like, and then I have to put a big asterix next with by the way. Your phones and no small humans nearby because. Because adults like adults sometimes yes. Might my favorite way of addressing that? Was I think, Alex Hirsch, the creative gravity falls had this in his twitter bio awhile ago he said I swear sometimes because I'm a human adult. I always just prefer that as like obviously, we don't swear on this show and I tend to keep my own content family friendly people occasionally come into my twitch channel. Do you swear occasionally in videos unlike? Yes I sometimes swear intentionally in videos I, just always cut it out because I don't want people to like to hear that if there's especially younger viewers and listeners and stuff. But yeah, it's one of those things where like we're we're adults you know we mature we comfortable with that level of stuff and you know the other people don't have to hear it. As. Something that I find really fun about these cafe is, is that again we swear a lot or use a lot of vulgar language on the show itself in our conversation but because of content that we cover like we did years of watching game of thrones, lots of stuff on Hbo of that stuff is you know would be considered quite risky for you know not a family audience for that kind of stuff. So you can't have a family friendly podcast when you're talking about stuff like thrones. But what's funny about having friends on yourself included. On the Little Cafe when I do content and want to interact with people into which it's family friendly and then on the little cafe is like the one spot where everybody gets swear and I hear a friend that I know isn't another adult and I know swears on regular basis. Comes onto the Civil Cafe and swears on Mike with me, it's that little kind of like a ha moments like, Ooh, that was fun. A little look behind the curtain of like, Hey, there's a real person. Or the real frustration with ago this show wasn't very good or they didn't like a character or something like that, and you can feel the frustration about that kind of stuff like when I think it happens more when. Someone's favourite piece of content like a book that they really like is adapted to into film TV show and it's terrible and they're so mad and then then this is unless you're unless you my friend mega and then she just swears a lot of doing so yeah. It's But. You're. Sailor. I I had a conversation with somebody and I forget who it was soy apologize if they didn't want me like mentioning this they, they did sort of just dm May, and just ask barrel like my decision to keep my content family friendly knowing that once again, I, am an adult human who swears occasionally in his personal life and they were saying you know, is it something that you do for just viewership to make sure that like the maximum amount of people can come and see videos and to me it's sort of like it's that plus a certain amount of responsibility to the community plus having worked in like. Full kids, online games before like for people who don't know it used to work for Disney interactive. Ago Working on like some kids entertainment and places where like there were chat filters in place and stuff like that and You know I just have a sense for that kind of stuff and I realized that it didn't necessarily have to be part of my brand. One of my favorite Comedians Bailey is a guy who probably sweat fairmount in his personal life. But never really says in his stand up comedy and you don't need swears to be funny in that arena where there are some Comedians, I love who will really lean into a swear and it will be like. Just the emphasis, it will make something funnier, but it's not the language itself. That's making it funnier way they're emphasizing it. So language is really one of those changeable immutable things that I think a lot of context needs to be awarded to in order for people to really get it and obviously there are some people who turned off just by the usage of that language without any, you know any context for why is being used and that is something I. I completely understand that point of view. It is not I share, but it is one that I empathize with I. Guess. That's tends to be why intend to keep most of my stuff like family friendly way possible it just it makes it accessible. It means kids don't get in trouble and that's That's the thing too and I. Same reason for me you know broad audience you know trying to represent. The community in in a positive way knowing that there's a range of people and all that kind of stuff and because. Minecraft I correct me. If I'm wrong, I think minecraft the average players probably close to twenty. Would you look at the grand scheme of all people playing I mean I I think in our community probably in terms of the broader community of players I think it's probably us a little bit younger than you'd expect just because of the amount of players who were on consoles and tablets and imagined the Java edition community might be a little older because to playing like on PC's wit on. You know not not not to cast any Tatar anybody with any particular brushes, but they are. It's typically like a more adult way to play games if you're playing it on a laptop, which is also used for like work or school or whatever, or you know you're playing like a full desktop pc, I feel like a lot of younger players are going to be playing it on mobile and that's where the majority of mine crafts play Bass is really is in bedrock edition mobile and console. Of so that's that's one reason why I keep it family friendly. But also, and I, I'm the same way like if I to. Crater on twitch. That's that's swearing I'll stick around long enough to find out why And there's a couple of new content creators that I've been following and. They do swear but it's in context. It's not every other word because they can't. Expand their vocabulary. Past one syllables. and. So it makes it more funny when or more fun. When this, what happened in appropriate places like being chased and a dark by spider, I fully expect swears. A streamer or content crater that uses that kind of language. Then it's going to happen when they're scary spiders around I. Get it. It would I would probably have to work to not do it. You know onstream. But yeah, it's one of those things that I think is always an interesting take and I'm with you there on the Comedians as well. I, prefer it when it's like. It's almost funnier when it's comedian that doesn't swear that often then they one thing to just zone in on that really bothers them and it's usually even funnier when it's something mundane like they don't like the way that Coffee Cup of sitting on a counter you know or they don't they don't like the way that a co worker you choose their sandwich or something, and they're just lacing into the hard language over something completely useless. That comedic juxtaposition is like they have to sell it because that's that's their. That's their profession. Speaking of Professions, let's do our profession and let's say you a podcast that sounds good. That sounds great. It's only one hundred time we've done this. Yeah. Really though you think we'd be used to getting this done on time. My Gosh. All right. Starting the show in three. To. Welcome to the sponge, chunks? Episode? Number. One hundred for Monday August third twenty twenty my name is Joel Duggan and joining me as always is my friend Johnny who you may know better as pixel rifts. Hello Sir one hundred episodes new. Santa thanks. I. Guess Pillow Horns sounding in the distance would be like the mine cross equivalents. Only knew the person that edits this podcast that could put a pillar horn in the edit that would be fantastic. Let's see if I remember after we've done this show welcome in folks and I hope everyone enjoyed listening to the render distance. If you stuck around for that, thank you just wanted to give everybody a peek behind the curtain at what the patrons of. The show get by subscribing to the show at Patriot dot com slash the scorn chunks. You hear US talk about it every week, and now you get an idea of the stuff we talked about if you've skipped heads to this point in the podcast, we just had a conversation about dungeons and dragons swearing in media and why we don't do it in our own. Shows in our twitch streams and videos and that kind of stuff and I feel like it's always fun to have a bit of a conversation up top gets US warmed up for the show and for the folks who are listening live in discord right now gets them to let you know let them get to know us a little bit better. So if you listen to the render distance, thank you if you want to hear more of it once again, Patriot dot com slash this born chunks. And stick around for the post show because I played a lot of satisfactory this weekend and I'll get a chance to talk about it dad. Oh. Yes and since the first of the month I want to extend a huge and big one hundred episode. Thank you to all of our patrons who support the show. You are a massive part and essential part of making the podcast allowing Johnny United to take time out of our busy weeks to produce the show ad free. So thank you. It's wonderful. We couldn't have asked for a better and more supportive community and it's continuing to grow and it's just fantastic to be a part of this one hundred episode train. Yes if you WANNA. See people post images of camels in the discords every every week. Then join a join our discount and and if you if you're just curious about what the context is for that I'm not going to tell you and that's why you should become a patron behind the scenes peeks like this. But once again as Joe was saying, thank you guys so much for supporting the show it really means a lot of so this has been a big milestone for the show and This is also more or less two years worth of the spoon chunks, but it's been average minecraft week other than that. So Joel, what you've been up to in minecraft this week, we'll speaking of Patriot actually I took a tour of my Patriot server. It's called Infinity Cove and it celebrated one year on August I and I've been on on the server before I don't play on it myself. I don't have the time, but there's now twenty odd members doubling since I think last year and. Boy, was there a lot of content to checkout so? Hats off to loss and. The. Mighty corn who put together A in game minecraft book with build names who built it and coordinates for me to teleport around the world and because I'm opie this over for nine been reasons. Yeah. So it was real. It was great. And then there was there was some like you know guided tours of more complicated builds, cough cough, many packs, holy smokes and there's just a lot going on the server and it was really fun and inspirational to see a very lively server first person walking around that's. Not, as old as the Sydell, but has way more active player. So citadel is like three years old I think but there's only six of us and really only half of US play. Consistently. So it's great but there's not a lot of built happening because it takes everybody who long time to do stuff but it makes me think though having watched Cove I should try to organize more. The citadel is more active now, and I try to organize more group projects you know where we can. Where we can. Work together and get something larger done faster. Yes. Yeah Yeah you know. So I think that's going to be. Probably. Part of the future for things like the. Medieval realm that we're GONNA do on the server but anyway, Infinity Cove there were. Zen. Gardens Panda Sanctuaries. Lighthouses. Wizard. Towers. An absolutely massive stone statue. There's some images being shared in our life discord right now, which is just phenomenal. And like we're talking big tasks at you, I'm thinking like the Argo Nath from Lord. Of The rings like just. Huge huge. Huge huge. Really, really fun to walk around and see all that kind of stuff. It was very inspiring. Got Me excited to do some some cool things. Also, I, think the veil. which was skull he's built I didn't want to drop too many names 'cause I'm going to miss people. But there's just a lot of really well thought out in developed areas. So it's not just like one thing plopped into landscape everybody believes together there's like a town area and then there's like a s people get further away. You walk into another bill does not just one build more like a dozen built by one creator and they all kind of Mesh together. They're not just popping things kind like Willy Nilly and so it really felt fund it felt like there was a lot of. Artistic Expression I guess is the best way to put it on on the podcast and and there is a vodka so you can check out. My on twitch dot TV slash chill Doug and I believe my friends Stephen Ese tour on Sunday as well and he was interacting with some of the players I was doing more of a how many people can showcase onstream. So I didn't have other people on Mike Bounce around yeah. But but Steven did like some walk throughs and I think he had some people on discordance up walking through. So it was very, very cool and I'm excited to get into. minecraft and do more because of what I've seen on and on the server as for the citadel. I'm GonNa Build. So I'm I'm taking small chunks out of the underside of another and developing the Nether Hall, which is my personal exercise in trying to learn how to use blackstone efficiently, and I'm finding some uses for it but most of this weekend was not designed it was just progress. It was knocking out a large area with a lava ceiling, which is treacherous died twice and I lost stuff so sad days but It I mean it was and I want to say my own fault the the fire resistant potion had run out. The lava was coming down from the ceiling and I fell off my scaffolding down to the slab floor which was covered in like an eight by eight of lava. There was no hope. No Hope. I think the only thing that survived was. I think a bundle of courts that I had in my inventory that just kind of popped out outside of the level of. The dumb thing is that I had a decent like probably of end game soak touch pick diamond pick on me. I have a knife ancient debris that I could spelt it and turn it into like it could have been another right pick that I was I was gonNA. Say this is a selling moment. The this is the moment when the right kind of. Hello can I interest you in an upgrade? Maybe I just I find I, find the grind for debris boring, and so I found someone I put it away and I, forgot about it. Okay. I haven't used it and so mental no going forward I will probably I will probably do that and it's a good incentive for me to tweak my custom texture pack to have some cool nether right to designs or something fun I might do that onstream. But yeah. So then other eight hall. It is. More than one hundred blocks long there are big two by two pillars every five blocks. And it's long enough that you can't see the other end. It is Spooky I. Love it I'm. Thinking of doubling the length. Helped me now a because that effect would then last longer when you're in it and when you're in the middle, you wouldn't be able to see either end. Yeah. That idea I love that idea. So that's that's where we are with it. There's really nothing to report. It's a bunch of an empty box with pillars in it right now. It's funny. It's funny how the fog effect in the Nether is something that a lot of people have been telling me in my comment section to turn off the fog because you can do that opt fine I. Think a couple of content creators have done that recently just to see the nether like extends outwards towards weather end distance in the oval world would be instead of being kind of like a little bit more claustrophobic with the fog around you but personally I find the folks so effective that it's actually worth having because I, you get those. Really interesting different volume full colors in the nether now as you move around the different volumes, but I think so much of the atmosphere of the nether comes from that stuff and so I'm much more interested in seeing effect like you're describing, you'll standing at one section of a room and you can't see where it extends off to in the distance the sense of the unknown and that full voting that comes with another especially now it's great ambient sound pretty cool. SANTRAC and stuff as well. I think it really adds to the effect of the Nether rarely. I'm running fabric and I don't remember what the fuck sittings are. I. Think There's simple simply an on off toggle. I don't think you can set the distance because normally what I am doing is with op define is that I would turn fog on but I would put it back a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Not A lot. There's like six eight and ten or something I can't remember but I would have it whatever one take past default would be just a little bit farther and most of that was just because I, I had some really cool builds in the over world and I wanted to see them from further away than what I was getting. But. But I haven't. To run around in. So busy in another with fabric, I haven't spent much time in the world. So I don't know how fabric is rendering. The world in terms of the settings for what I have with. Fabric with sodium and the other Mazda they're actually have an email but that later I'll talk about that then. But what have you been up to in in my graft? Oh, I've done a lot this week. Actually it's it's been the starts beneath Sky Block series, which is always Super Fun the New Sky Block Map full one point sixteen Dr Troy has made a couple of interesting updates to it, which I don't think I covered last week, but I might as well cover here now. So you start off on the regular Vanilla Sky Block island in the world. But as soon as you mine and collect a piece of dirt, it transports you to the nether regardless of you've taken out of. The chest or if you cut down the tree or anything like what have you normally do in Sky Book as soon as you start thinking about making a couple stone generator by usually by digging up some of the the blocks of that gross island it teleport's you to a similar island in the nether with the walked fungus and some blackstone and a piece of soil, and the chest on this island has some blue ice and a bucket of lava in it. So you're supposed to make assault generates a to get yourself back to the portal little. Take you back to the oval world. So it's a really interesting twist on the Classic Sky Block formula, and aside from that, it is the same map as you would been playing in one fifteen point two it's got to pillage and watch Taryn a witch hunt in in the perimeter in the overwhelmed now as well. So that Super Fun and it really feels like a new lease of Life Sky Block for me because. With that series I I started it in an earlier version of the map. So I didn't have the witch hunt or any of the new structures I just about found the ocean monuments I'd gotten quite far in terms of progression I had diamond gear and villages with trading. Me Stuff I had beaten the dragon side, go some electra and could fly around the sky book world but I kind like starting again with that. Now, it gives me an opportunity to go over some of the decisions that I made in the first one and think, could I have done that better and then I've made A. Better mobs born as a result I've made some some improvements to some of the early game stuff I was doing and I'm GonNa make things prettier as I go. So I'm actually going to work with some more aesthetic stuff fairly early. Once I can get hold of it plus now we have the option to get a hose with fortune to break leaves than the sapling grind in sky. Block is actually going to be a little bit easier as only have access to fortune that I can use to get say dark oak saplings then can hope that that tree will be renewable for longer whereas in my. I Sky Block series I didn't get more than two dark oak saplings out of the original tree and therefore couldn't regrow its until the wondering traders showed up which once again I think we have an email about the wondering trader later. But as you know he is a little bit useless as far sunken said. So, book has been great fun been getting into that again, and in the survival guide I am finally working on the project. I've been talking about basically since I started playing minecraft actually which is a museum that's going to contain every block and autumn and mob in Minecraft, and yes, there are some things that you can't bring to the world. So they will be sections of the museum in the Nether as well but I'm looking forward to really getting into this project I've chosen. A place for it, which is right by a stronghold. So can include end portal blocks in the museum and there a couple of spawners nearby that I just started excavating and yeah, I'm planning on drawing ideas from all across all of the stuff I've done crossed previously to bring it all into this museum. So it feels like it's going to be an attempt, my magnum opus I guess it's going to be like one of the most ambitious things I've done in the game so far but. Already built a mountain range, I'm for the challenge. Yeah, it's it's like those. It's like your version of the redstone sorting system that sorts everything sort of in minecraft right like you. Just it's the it's the artistic builder's version of the sorting system. You're like, no, it's a museum I only need one. Thing and somebody who specialize in making shoot oriel videos. Now, after fashion that oriels that are in the survival game but I still think of them as Utah Royals being informative and so I feel like yet for the the redstone is dream being something that suits everything for you and has all of these kind of redstone bells and whistles. The builders dream is designing an entire city kind of thing. And that you you'll make his dream is having the most informative minecraft structure, which is what I'm trying to do with this. There's going to be interactive elements to it as well. I feel like the experience of going to a museum is more than just looking at stuff in glass cases to make museums engaging they have interactive exhibits they have like stuffy to press and turn and Robin Look at and There's a bunch of different stuff that will make it interesting. So I have a few exhibits in mind that are going to take advantage of that at the very least I'm GonNa have electons everywhere so that I can have written books with information about each of the the blocks items and stuff like that. There are GONNA be Rube. Goldberg. Machines in the redstone area, there are going to be you know a bunch of a bunch of different things does even going to be a bedrock exhibit some point where you can just go down to bedrock and they'll be like a gloss floor over it and that can be like this is bedrock. Yeah I'm looking forward to bringing more of these ideas to the table but I I got to build the thing and it's going to be enormous Joe I. Don't know where to get a Larissa Fromm. We had one of her screen shots one of our thumbnails it was It was something about. Journalism and there was a huge museum in the bill and it was a world that people go to actually read books in minecraft. Yes. The uncensored library I believe. was called what. So what kind of what kind of are there real world buildings that you're drawing on for inspiration for the museum this a little bit of just anything I can get in a Google image search for museum, but that's mainly going to be the outsides the exteriors I'm planning on making it look like quite a mind kroft structure after. A fashion feel it minecraft sort of has its own identity in terms of style that I'm trying to celebrate with the structure instead of trying to emulate something from the real world not least because if I go with a real world rebuild if I'm doing it to scale, I cannot guarantee that it will have room for everything in minecraft in it because ultimately. Museums in the real world don't have to think about can we store everything that exists in this building? Because of course, they can't because they they they curate stuff. That's kind of the point whereas I won't this museum to contain more or less everything, and then some of some of the time it's going to have demonstrations of what that thing does and I didn't have much space that's going to take up. So while I'm trying to plan this stuff, I'm leaving myself with room for expansion and I really can't emulate any kind of real life structure with it because it would either be unfathomably lodge or it would be not big enough to contain all the stuff I have plant. Very, cool. I'm excited to see that come together. Yeah we'll. We'll see how it all goes moving onto the news. For this week, we have a minecraft JAL edition one point sixteen point two pre release the released last week last Wednesday. And at the head of this article, it says from now on, you should mostly sea bug fixes leading up to the full release of one point sixteen point two, which we expect to happen in a few weeks. So they are hedging their bets a little bit making sure that they get all the bugs fixed and not guaranteeing that it's going to be ready by next week or anything but considering the we thought it was just going to be the piglet brute it turns out. There's a lot more to it than that and in this change log, which you can see on minecraft dot net has the full change log there along with all the bug fixes there aren't new accessibility settings which have been added to help with visual comfort distortion effects such as nausea, and the Nether Portal overlay can now be reduced at low values. The nausea effect is replaced with a green overlay as an alternative visualization field of view effects shown off to speed modifiers are applied. Can now be reduced. So yeah, anything that. Moves your field of view around if you have say soul speed and you're standing on Seoul San Block, suddenly you feel view zooms out a little bit more as though you've just cranked the field of view slider bit and apparently that can be adjusted now big changes in at one sixteen to pre one include chains. Now being placed in all orientations intimate will no longer place their held blocks onto bedrick blocks piglets non angry with plays who open or destroy a chest mine carts villages lose their job sites when changing dimension Chatila has been added to the chat setting screen and custom well, generation at dimension settings. Now use the same folder pattern in data packs as other resources do. There are some notable bug fixes in this one one of which I've just thrown in because I saw a bunch of people going how on Earth did this ever get noticed and then fixed but Stop with throwing projectiles getting destroyed on contact with known solid blocks. An example being a snowball thrown at a to block holly flower was going get destroyed. Now, those will pass through flowers now that that has been fixed bubble columns weren't affecting eggs, snowballs and polls, splash potions, lingering potions, files, and Shell. It's so all of those projectiles now affected by bubble columns, which has some interesting implications villages who didn't get dejected from a Oh. Sorry Villa's did. Get ejected from a mine cart when converting to a Zombie villager. So there's will never stay in the carts new nether plants can be picked up without she is all silk touch that hasn't been fixed. So Nether foliage has to be she had gathered with a silk touch tool and the last one because it was hilarious, the game crashed off to killing a mob that was being written by Guardian while it is being written by a with a skeleton. So somebody. Somebody in there we it's like creative test world or or maybe even maker of somebody who's been re texturing these. So the something else has spawned in a with skeleton writing a guardian and then something else in that's writing the with a skeleton and killing the with a skeletons passenger caused the game to crash. I just saw a bunch of people in the reddit thread for this change log going, okay. Yep. We've run into that one once or twice. That was pretty hilarious good on them for fixing that one I'm sure that will fix a lot of people's issues and joking aside I think it's it's good that they're they're still tracking down these game crashes and figuring was was caused them and it might be something more complicated of the back end that that is good. It's. It may have other implications but I. I love the idea that there's one minecraft player out there going finally. Yes. I've been waiting for this. Finally. I can have my with a skeleton Rodeo with guardians and yeah, it's it's a giant mess but I imagine that it's a good thing that's been fixed and passenger issues in general may have like you said been fixed as a result of that. One, last light item of news. Before we get into this gushing about this they they finally released a an iteration of the how we make minecraft series. There's an episode about new jobs up on crafts YouTube channel, which is a lighthearted take on the difficulties of adding a new mobile to the game, and there are some actual game design advice in there. Somewhere I say that because the video is largely a kind of a cartoony and I guess kid friendly approach to the way Mo- Jiang designs new jobs for the game and the perils of introducing them to something that already has a bit of an ecosystem to it. Did you match cash that video. I did. I laughed a couple times. I thought it was funny I'm I'm a little disappointed that they're not taking A more informational approach to these because I would really like to have more information about how they actually do that. But I guess what? You get more in the live. QNA's from Mine Con Live Mine Yeah My. called. Contestable. Whatever. It was gonNA. Be Mine Craft Festival this year but I think it's probably mine can live again because of the the current situation with the world health crisis and everything. But I, don't think that you have to make this kitty for kids to understand it I guess is my point Yeah Yeah, and they've clearly got a Fun Out Directing style with it. They've clearly it's funny and an aesthetic that they're working to, and yet it feels very much like kids programming with a little bit of useful information thrown in there as well. You'll probably get more if you will. You know not not keen on this thing you get more out of the the Jiang Mojanke videos that they've been putting up elsewhere on the channels. So there's probably a little bit more behind the scenes developer feedback stuff there whereas this is clearly put together by like you know a team that's interested in. Sharing this kind of information with a younger audience. I am all for the accessibility setting changes and I. You're always championing more accessibility tweaks in sliders and stuff for my craft and I think it's great I think it's it's a simple thing that they can change. I don't need these changes amount someone that has those kind of visual issues with the game, but I, know some people that do so I think that's great i. AM definitely turning down if off the nausea settings on portal's that's yeah it's a it's the bane of my existence because we've got a couple of shaped portals and I know that there's actually a vanilla tweaks. Data out there now where you can do shaped portals but we have the traditional square portals that are the decorated to look different shape very often you'll find yourself going through a portal facing the wrong way or you're stuck in a corner. More new players, I kind of know the spots to stand in which way to face now but you can get caught and when you're caught trying to find your way out and you're wobbling around like it's just it's just frustrating. Doesn't it takes me out of the game and so between that down, it will also help with some of the Saifi bills we. Want to do on the citadel where the wobbly thing is not necessarily what you want to happen it. We'd better, if it was a cleaner straight, you know kind of like teleportation through the portal. So yeah, I'm looking forward to that I actually liked the zoom setting that happens when you have swiftness I, find it a good indicator win swiftness activates and wears off. So you're like, Hey, there's a beacon effect happening or oh, Hey, my portion of swiftness run out as I'm not mining sand at the speed of sound anymore. So How you feel about the accessibility changes. I I agree with you I. Think the nausea will as good and I think the swiftness or Soul speed one is is probably been prompted more by Seoul speed because I have been doing a lot more ancient debris morning on my streams and whenever I run across a patch weather is one or two blocks of soul San down one of these long tunnels on digging weather too late day or just to just to go straight strip mining all branche mining for for ancient debris on finding the I just get this sudden lurch of f.? O. V. CHANGE AS I run over that block when I speed up and then that gets a little bit disorienting if not. If not nauseating. It's definitely a little bit like. If feels uncomfortable. If feels lies on the just like. Maybe, it should kick in if you're on a large patch of it and you're really taking advantage of the soul speed effect but I'm just walking backwards down this tunnel, and then suddenly it's like I've. killed over backwards temporarily something it does it gets a little bit distracting a becomes noticeable after a while and done a few times that would make sense you know like no. Soul speed of Pov changes unless you're running on more blocks of of soil sand. Wait until you're actually up to speed. I guess before it actually happened. Yeah. It's all about where you draw the line with those effects though and for some people it could be useful I think it's just good to have the option like I'm all in favor of there being more tweakable options and more sliders for stuff like this so that you can. Adjust it to how you how they feel about it Let's look at the other changes in this change log sideways chains they seem to be one of those things that that ever everyone has either championed or they just like. Well, that's nice. I'm I'm in the second category I wasn't like champing at the bit for being able to place chains. But I can see how they look good for a rope bridges and stuff like that. Do you do you have a particular affinity for this as a change? Well, exactly I think rope bridges would be really cool like so I mean the issue is going to be the same thing that you run into with any sub block like fences and walls, and in that, they're not going to be able to connect to everything young. So like if you put a fence down a chain than they don't connect to another chain kind of floats. But if you have solid blocks and then chains run between them, that could be cool for like a chain railing on a bridge or maybe a harbour I might see what they look like on on a harbor. Harbor Front and my city I'm excited for. You can make honest to goodness drawbridges now and you don't have to do the Jenky diagonal placement of iron bars. Or buried chickens with leads you in the ground get something that looks like I mean it's going to be a minecraft drawbridge and that is going to be at a right angle. But there are drawbridges that have that kind of that kind of hoist on the on the gate where it's not a not a forty five degree angle chain it's like a two chains one goes horizontal. The other one goes vertical down to connect to the. So there are some really cool implementations. I'm excited also about the waterlogged chains. I think that that has the combination in is really cool. You can do lots of really cool stuff chained underwater and. I think linking things together. Having something that looks like it's being towed. All that kind of stuff is cool. I kind of hope that. This leads the way to maybe something like minecraft rope. How cool. Would it be if the science behind the chains just applied to maybe you make rope which you then climb you know or do different things with I mean people could also re-texture your chance to be rope. Yes. Yes. I assume chains are also unique enough in that. They don't behave like I in Basel fences that they still set a precedent for horizontal fence posts and stuff like that like I'm I'm I'm worried about the slippery slope of like. Well, why doesn't all of this? A have a sideways thing as well where you know we've done just fine without them before kind of thing I. I wonder if wools will now connect to sideways changes while I hadn't looked into that but I wonder if because now wolves will connect to a variety of things full this sort of solid wool. Idea with gloss pains being able to inset into a into a wall well, enough I wonder if maybe that will happen. Yeah. I know they'd look speaking of glass panes actually that conversation come up in my discord channel In the minecraft section about the chains and someone said, this is amazing. I wish I could do this with glass panes and to which everyone went. Oh my gosh. Yes and some of the star wars fans in my discord can like single glass panes that you could position sideways like now. Instantly. Bolt like just ready made. But also being able to do glass panes horizontally for like the ceiling of a greenhouse or just like just being able to take that one block and just being able to do it in in. Two axes changes so much about about how you could use glass panes and I don't think like again we've got changed the do it. We've got an rods that do it. Is there anything else that goes horizontally. Can. Nothing from communism all but but. Like. Having the glass panes be another similar block like that's not a stretch I don't think right Outside of the box. Walls and fences I think would be like woo were pushing the box. But. which don't get me wrong I would I would love sideways fans but. Or being able to pay posts, fences, undecided things but. But actually had this discussion on stream the other day I think that. The. Blocks that have. Either sub blocks. So they have some sort of thing carved out of them. Anvils, what angles fault? So that doesn't make any sense but. Not affected box by gravity like It'd be really cool if you could place the cauldron sideways in the same way that you place a log just directional placing whichever block face you're facing. That's where the feet of the culvert go. Yeah. There are definitely a lot of things that could be. You. Could really good with Directional placement I? I wonder how often there is just. A disagreement behind the scenes all or some sort of justification made for it where the colder and is still meant to be a coldren and The coach Nalty of it comes into play. Yeah. Exactly. Like stomach that like an and having. Having it connect to certain surfaces like depending on how realistic it is how Anything is meant to be phys ways in a game where blocks all floats. So physics is like an optional concepts. Scaffolding. Yeah, exactly. Yes. So so this this interesting arguments and we could we could definitely get into that I think maybe something to be saved for a round table episode where we can really pick apart all of the stuff in this little bit more a little bit more of a few more examples We've got bubble columns now affecting all of these projectiles again I think end appeals is the big one. Here because technically that means you can throw an end Appel and it will stay hovering in this bubble Cullum, which means as soon as you trigger something that causes the NFL to Landau impact on a block you tell there immediately, but the end Appel will stay floating there indefinitely until you trigger that. So it makes teleportation possible which is a a concept that people have been doing for ages now with other. Things, they've had slime blocks being able to juggle and polls in place until you're ready to stop the slime block machine and then you get teleported back there you've had nfl launches and things like that before using slime blocks but now yeah, it is. It is possible to send an independent up to the top of a wheelchair elevator that goes to build heights, and then you just triggers something using a column. Of Redstone and you end up being able to teleport to build height instantly from ground level if you want to and then you just set up another end Appel, and you can do that again whenever you like there's some some very neat applications of it. I'm sure I am only scratching the surface of what symbol technical folks of, but that's an exciting prospect for people who likes to play around with those things. Do. We know what happens when and enter Pearl. That is active having been thrown by the player leaves rendered a since. I think it just stays there sort of loses all momentum and stays there but. The play account currently throw anything out over into distance. But if it's kind of hovering in place, I don't think it would tell you back there because anything that it would be able to impact on would be unloaded as well. Right. So presumably when you get back within rented distance of the NFL whatever was happening to it before continues to happen. Because I'm just thinking about like if it works with bubble comes I wonder if it'll work with like waterways and stuff like that but I guess it would. It would impact the ice. In the waterway so yeah. Yeah it's it's still be affected gravity. The bubble is the thing that's keeping it afloat at that point I so it's a vertical thing not a horizontal thing. Yes that's interesting. I'm looking forward to the. future redstone genius videos on Youtube. Yes. Yeah and there's all kinds of odd stuff that I'm sure they will. They will come up with We have pig Lynn's being angry over mine cart chests, which is once again another controversial one. Another thing that we we would like this was all one workaround for having like a normal chest in Venturi in in the nether but yet the piglets nothing is sacred from these swines. We've we gotta deal with that now as well and it was it was. An oversight perhaps but I felt like it was kind of fun to have one thing left as a workaround aside from redstone component inventories which I presume AH, being left untouched only because. Making Redstone contraptions in the Nether is fun and having that process hampered by piglets could be a step too far for people don't know how you feel about that one. Yeah I think it's consistent. So it makes sense with what the game currently has. I just think that currently implemented rule is. In the wrong direction I I think we've mentioned it. I. Think you've mentioned on the show I think ender chests and shocker boxes should be the two things that they ignore. And then I'm fine if if everything else is like You know if you WANNA make the harder. That's awesome I. Don't think it would be. I. Think it'd be too difficult to differentiate between player placed chests and chests that are you know in the world or in the pickling bastions and then it just wouldn't happen at all. I've been able to deal with it by just having spun proof another not being in line of sight of of Lens it doesn't happen nearly as much. I get hit actually I've been killed by plague liens more for mining gold yen for not having A. Gold. Helmet. On that I have for opening chest. So it's not a big problem as I thought it was going to be for me as a player but I do think that like the endgame reward of having shocker boxes as your Go-to and having enter chests in the in the nether would be a good way to say like all right. Well, the ones don't get mad at those because they don't know what they are that kind of thing. The. The Mine Cart Chess I tried that. And it's not as useful as you think, interacting with chest is so much easier than the hit box and trying to interact with the moncur chest. Yeah. The the amount of setup it requires as well bringing the mind caught the chest and the rails with you everywhere, and then if you break it, it breaks down into separate items and you have to re craft it again there are there are steps there that I thought was I think a worthwhile balance between it being awkward to put together but then gives you something that's a workaround from piglets. On you but I guess if you wanted to leave one somewhere as a permanent storage solution, then maybe that was a work around that they didn't feel like was something they wanted in the game I don't know. But that that's that's one mild inconvenience. I suppose the the joy that is the Nether update thus far as speaking of which we have walked routes and Crimson routes and stuff like that. Now have to be picked up with she and silk touch, which on the one hand kind of invalidates the shifting floor femme design I was using for them, but that will also still give you walked in Crimson Fungus. I believe you don't need to get the fungus with silk touch Yoshi as. You. Just need to get the nether routes Another sprouts were already an a category of their own way you had to share them anyway. So it's kind of moving one plant into the other category and I already had a farm setup was. So I could harvest Nether sprouts so I can basically just use the same one. If I want to wage can just go back and forth with she is still touch tool in a mine cart and gather all of that stuff that way. So the thing that confused me this is I guess neither routes both of them, the Crimson and the worked versions are just decorative like there's no other real function. Effectively, they gross yet the net rains of gross grass. So so the sheer thing makes sense what I was wondering if there might be a two if people wanted to have the Mac more like flowers in that, that could be a natural source of. sci-fi for the worked version and I want to say Magenta die because while the roots are crimson nothing else that's called Crimson. In the Crimson forest outside of the Netherworld blocks or read their most of it is like a purple. But it'd be neat if you can have the nether, be the sources of these unnatural dis dis that you have to make by combining other dies in in real life, and then maybe they could return to the floor design but I, can I can appreciate the people that like well now, my shifting Florida's doesn't work, but I also say like, well, what were you using these four because they don't they're just decorative. and. Also. And this dawned on me this past weekend. There's no version of the was it the sprouts? There's no crimson sprouts. No, it's just won't sprouts which is and they're not. They're not even cold what they are called. Nether sprouts Snow Valley you only for them and walked by oems but they are specifically called Nether. Sprint speakers. They aren't part of the warped family which is yeah. It seems like a strange concept to have there's no the gross and there's other nether gross you know. But I think it's kind of cool. I like those sprints actually if you want to use them as like frosty like morning frost gross in like a mountain by Omar Snow by on them I think those look really nice in those areas combined with the kind of bluish-gray Gross Kelly you get there. So I can keep some of those around. You might find a more useful than you think if you working on something aesthetic. Oh. Yes. I was thinking more functionality. I think they're also very attractive and working decoration, but like you don't need hundreds of them. necessarily. Very cool. Writes Let's get into the junk mail for the week we have some listener e email to read. We actually have quite a few smaller emails here, which is kind of fun for our. Hundred episode just to kind of throw in a few different things into the pot. This comes from Coco, who's eight landscape artist member and over. I'll patriot and the subject as loot chest banners and says, Hey, soy listened to episode nine, thousand, nine today and the loot chest conversation gave me an idea. How would you feel about randomized banners being thing in Luke Chests? Not only would that mean free banners maybe some cool ones but it could also be great source of inspiration for designing banners especially since there are no other natural banners in the game already aside from the bland ones in villages and Pillow Bananas which all Unique Anyway Love, the show goes. Yeah this kind of rolls off the back of my. Suggestion to make loot chests more viable endgame where you could find cosmetic items in them and I think redesigned banners deal a fun idea. The only other ones I can think of that weren't mentioned in the email all the. The banners that you find on N. cities that are kind of our gloss. It's funny because it's actually like the null texture. Texture like. It's. described. But if if you load up a texture file in this corrupted or something, then what you get a patent of like blackened Magenta squares. Where texture needs to be replaced and basically the end city banners that. But in banner form with the kind of two opposing triangles of Magenta and black and and so those are kind of fun. But those are again the only banners that you really find anywhere else aside from. Yeah. Pillage patrols and and pillage watch towers. So I, think it'd be kind of fun I'm. The random obvious thing is the problem because I imagine there will be some combinations that just end up source of hideous but it does give the player a little bit more incentive to mess around with banners, and you could wash some of the designs of using. Colin if you feel like it and maybe that would you know uncover abandoned his own you a slightly happy with what do you think about this this idea? I'm on board I think that it would be more quote unquote minecraft to have P- redesigned banners in. Luke chests to inspire players to play with banners more you know. To to know that there's more possibilities than just dying them a single color. Especially, with what they've done with the piglet bastions and some of the new carved blackstone blocks and stuff where they've got like the piglets note. You can have a piddling banner in lieu chests you can have. I'm trying to think of other examples like anything that looks like a mob. You know anything any banner that would indicate you know cow or creeper skeleton that kind of stuff could be Kinda cool. I'm finding a creep Obama would actually be very useful for I mean abandoned that was already emblazoned with the creeper to kind of get around the fact that you have to find. You have to get a creeper ahead to make that banner patent in the first place I mean it might be a little bit of A. T, walk around in a sense. But also you know if you've only got one of those banners Nikon Control, what layer it appears on. That or or just you know peaceful players access to it in the first exactly. Yeah. That'd be that'd be kind of kind of useful and I have yet to play around with the piglets snapped Bana Pattern that you can get in some of those chests I do have a couple of them but. Most of the time when I designed ban is like don't do it in game I tend to do it using external tools like the Bana designer on Planet Minecraft Dot com or a need cool shoes dot com they have one but neither of those have the snap back patent added yet. I think planet minecraft has the globe from the one fourteen update that you get from categories, but they don't have the pig snout yet. So I need to get in game and actually play around with some of that because I haven't really haven't really tried it. Yet. Some people have said it looks like a cartoon pair of eyes as well. So in the right design, it could actually like a face so you could you could end up doing fun stuff without any to mess around with that some more I've seen some really cool stuff. With banners I think it was on her craft where like it was designed to look like the front grill of a truck. Yeah. You know stuff like that and I I'm looking forward the only thing that with banners for me is that I wish they would stop swaying in the wind. It was a bug for a long time and I. Loved it. Because, they always used to be stationed there and then I or I think they would stop swaying after awhile was the thing and so world was old enough. Then there just was no wind Eddie more which felt like a very old thing to come to terms with in physics terms but yeah was was sometimes nicer if you didn't have your banner like clipping through the blocks that it was attached to or something like that. So some sort of control over that would be kind of Nice I'd agree and just add string that the recipe you know yet hide banner. Move will not move that. That'd be a fun data pack actually. We are next meal comes from. Sony has all cubby one to three I. Hope I got that right? Fabric optimization. Hello there johnny. Joel I listened to episode ninety nine and it was great as usual but I thought I would point out a few things. All three of the optimization models that you talked about sodium lithium phosphorus are made by the same person Joe's joey squid she has discord and a get hub and through the three months are meant quote unquote to be together but lithium is suggested to be server side best to have on both while the other two sodium in foster will work just fine on the client side loved the podcast chunks out H. why does everyone keep coming out a coming up with these? Really, good silence. We didn't write the down I do I need. I need to start the Google doc of all of the good of the people have made. We'll keep them coming folks and thank you for the correction there. It's good to have clarification on that. Yeah. Absolutely. No big discussion here I just wanted to pass along the information very much appreciated We will have links to Jelly, squids twitter, and her get hub page in the show notes for this week also include links to sodium lithium in foster I had those last week but did not link to jelly squid her links on those pages. For clarification if you want a quick way to get to the things, check out the show notes at least chunks dot com. That's what I do during the afternoon is I make those notes. So if you want to find something from the show quickly, that's probably the best way to do it. Absolutely, well, that one taking care of we'll move onto the thirty mile which comes in from billy, and this is the one I hinted at earlier because the subject is that you wondering traders rapport Hello Johnny and Joe I was listening to you a discussion about the trade with Zuma from episode ninety-six and I wanted to share my thoughts I'm also of the opinion that the wondering trader is. Meant for new play who've not discovered every yet. But on any later level, the wondering it becomes pretty useless unless you need leads. Of course, what I propose is this seeing as the wandering trader is a villager, give him an experience bars well, like villages more trade levels will be unlocked when trade with him more the lower levels would be roughly the same, but the higher experience levels will get. You more useful stuff like higher quantities of non-renewable valuable ot to gather items I see two options either this works per wondering trader where you I have to make one or two of the week trades before you get to the good stuff or there is some sort of guild system where every wondering trader knows how much you've traded with wondering traders in general this way getting better trades might take. Longer. But once acquired, you don't need to unlock it for every separate wondering trade of that comes your way. We'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Your work is very entertaining when grinding out lodge products in my world. Cheers Billy. Thank you very much billy as somebody who's also working on larger projects. I can definitely say that pulsar a great way to get through some of the motifs sections. I, love this idea. I think it's a great. Not. Only. Is it a good idea to for improving the wondering trader but it's also. A very minecraft the idea like it's not really outside of the box, it's taking in game mechanics that are working and cool and fun, and just applying it to something that is currently not Super Fun. Wondering trader. I think that it gives the wondering trader a decent reason to exist for all players early game late game forever worlds and even peaceful players and I love that it adds a mysterious unseen wondering trader guild somewhere that you just never see just yes. We don't know where they are where they go or or what it is that they're talking about. But when they come back, they're happy to see us. Yes league-leading that nomadic. Yeah anything to give the wondering trade in more depth. This point I, love the design of the Guy I do think it's one of the cooler like design textures that they've come up with for Yeah. For these kind of neutral passive dudes like like villages but I have rarely if ever found the wondering trade a useful, there are maybe one or two things that I will go for which are things like slim bowls. Nautilus shells if I don't have a drowned fom yet and saplings if I'm in a sky block world but those are really some of the things that I find useful home from the trader outside of the context of some kind of like Mo. hectic survival challenge he doesn't appear at all in the Nether. He was one of the things that would have been really useful to me in the Nether survival challenge I did recently but just you know inaccessible and. I've never seen the point in having both a diesel in time on how long the trader sticks around and having him lock his trades after a few goes I mean I understand that if you keep the guys Gui open, then he can't born right but then no player in their right mind especially on a single player weld is going to do that forever because eventually you run out of stuff to trade anyway. But I I really don't see the point in having him eventually born, but then also have a limit on the amount of stuff can trade because it just it just means that the individual traits become so trivial as to be purposeless, I would love if he cycled his trade off to they became locked so that if you had a bunch of stuff from the wondering trailer, you didn't actually once but then you thought Oh if I could trade with him a few more times, maybe he'll come up with a sand trade that I. Need if you're looking for red sand in particular or something like that, that would be there would be a couple of things that would make it a little bit more functional. It would probably take me over into appreciating him as a feature a little bit more and billy's idea ready flashes at out in terms of lower as well. which kind of like the idea of there being a guild of wondering traders is kind of fun to me and at the very least if he gave you know discounts. Yeah. But like larger bulk trades. If you traded with a lot of wondering traded before which I believe is still a statistic game tracks. Then that makes a lot of sense to me. I like the idea of getting higher items to. The first time you see him, it's the same old stuff. Second Third, fourth fifth depending on how how long it goes You may get something like you know I don't want to say another star but like something higher up like maybe you get some diamonds or maybe you get. Blackstone or or other things that I guess there's piglet bartering. So we'd have to not have the same things there but like. Something that is. Really hard to get you know. would be would be really cool. Yeah Yeah and it's it's so difficult to find out what those all. But once again, if you added something like the cosmetic items that I mentioned, maybe the wondering trader had a couple of those that you can't get anywhere else maybe something that maybe I don't know makes you almond look like his robes little bit does yes. This stuff that could be added in future that might give the wondering trae little bit more purpose in. The same way that campfires would give him a little bit more purpose when they could then be used to smoke beehives and stuff like that. I think there is still potential. The wondering trade could have which wasn't added along with him in one point fourteen, but still still has some potential. So we saw on the wondering trade. Yeah. We've had a lot of success both on an infinity cove and on the citadel with a implementing the. Same data pack of these and Hermit Crab which adds player heads and then mini blocks to the traders. It's again it's a data pack. So it's outside of Vanilla play really for a community thing in a server thing. One of the. Rooms that I toward was like the hall of Heroes or something on infinity cove and it was just You know everybody that's on the server head like a little statue with their head like and that's that's cool and you can do that with the wondering trader, which makes it. Not just here giving me heads. It's like you know from admit it's like, oh no I actually have to work for this and just slowly but surely. We Wanna see the wondering trader Aleksei New Player. If you see a wondering trader tried to go get your head so that we can include you in the hall of Heroes. Link. That kind of stuff is fun. Yeah, and it's the same kind of ideas I was having with stuff in the it's Kohl's metric. It's relatively inconsequential is just really nice when. It shows up because you can't get it any other way. So it's not something that's going to be gained breaking to gate it behind a guy who turns up randomly and you can't really control that but it still gives you something exciting to trade with him. Once he's there at any level through the game as long as you've got emeralds I suppose. Moving onto the main discussion for the week, we thought it would be fun to take a look back at the one hundred episodes of making a podcast about minecraft. I'm calling it behind the MIC block and I thought it would just be fun to talk about how we make the show and what goes into it and I guess the in and outs of spunk week-to-week. Yeah. It's. It's funny because I was listening to episode one the other day. Just in context of. Episode, one hundred and kind of seeing how much has changed and how much has stayed the same and. I think the structure of the show aside from adding listening email was basically the same. So I feel like it's it's kind of Nice to have a conversation about minecraft every week even though we're both streamers and content creators ourselves, we tend to always have something to talk about and just checking in with how those projects are going digesting, everything and sharing it with the community has. Always been one of my favorite parts of of doing this show I think it's fun to have a discussion about the news every week and to their credit Mo- Jiang has been very good at providing us with news every week with the regular snapshots and and other things that highlighted on minecraft dot net. The introduction of stuff like mine craft dungeons has been really interesting getting to explore. A new dimension of the game in that sense and and. I was GONNA say in three dimensions but now it kind of it it minecraft already in three dimensions thinking about Mon- cough the dimension that minecraft death has added was a a fun distraction for a while there as well. So there have been some some really great changes ready great additions to the game into the community over the last two years of doing this podcast and it has always been a pleasure. I agree it to me. It's one of those things where. I'm probably going to do this anyway like I'm probably going to talk to friends about minecraft for an hour or more. A week anyway. Those friends, are they going to be like this again? Well yes. Johnny likes to talk about mine crap but. I knew that I mean having been a podcast for a lot longer than than two years I started the cafe in two thousand and eleven and. And having listened to a lot of pop part of others. I was part of Comics Coast to coast for several years I. Think I did a couple hundred episodes with them as well and I was actually thinking about this this morning, which is how many podcast episodes have I made not just of the spun chunks but like all cumulative and it's coming up on four digits I think if you put all of the shows that I've done together, it's not quite there but it would be it would be a larger number that I may be one or see written down. But it's it started off as a fun hobby, but it's turned into part of my job and I love that it it's It's. Two, it's two parts. It's one because of the supportive and incredible community that we've been able to cultivate and have come to support us on spot checks. But also the content coming from Mo Jing studios as you mentioned is just like not only was. minecraft new to me and consuming my brain. But I sort of felt that minecraft was on an uptick and I don't know if I really realized that at the time I think it was when I maybe I got wind of the one thousand release and what that was going to entail and that I was just like wait a minute this. This is an ongoing thing like this has got some Looking for just ongoing content from from the developer, it's called momentum. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And of course, I had been a fan of yours doing a lot of research and stuff boat minecraft I. Think you were still undecided leaving ill at the time. Yes. decidedly Vanilla starseed's its fifth season concurrent with me starting the minecraft survival guide and both those when one thirteen launched. So it was it was funny to hear me still talking about the server that I used to be portal and still chat to the the other crew behind the scenes but. We've all kind of gone our separate ways since then and yeah. The the early days of the update aquatic being Yeah. Everyone kind of settling in and getting used to it You'll still playing on the same server that you were two years ago. The Citadel has gone through several iterations since then but you upgrading you'll suffer from one point twelve and so unit you're still you're still playing in the same world that you are all those years ago as well. How does that feel? It's good. It's it feels very familiar. There are some struggles with like what to do and where to go next because I've been in the mood to do some technical stuff but then I kind of have all the firms. Don't really need a lot right now. Yeah. I mean, there's more to I shouldn't say that we didn't until the another update happen now there's lots to do but but previous to that, all the overruled farm she was like. I have a chicken farm. Don't need like a farm you like this. I don't have one, but doing necessarily need to build one. So there's that but I build more when I'm in the mood for technical I am kind of like. Well, we have all the things but when I'm not in the mood for technical, obviously there's a lot of really cool areas we lucked out and have a really nice seed. There's a lot of really fun areas. And because we decided to all agree on the implementation of command blocks and teleportation from large like four, thousand, nine, thousand block distances to build the medieval realm or the SCIFI realm or whatever it is we're going to do. That that has kind of relive my creative juices to the point where now I just don't know where I wanna go I log into the service in the mood for wanted to go to the modern city. Do I wanNA start the medieval stuff? We'll see so. So that's been cool I think the thing that I. Remember most about starting this bunch and then also having the citadel around because the citadel was a year old when we started the spahn chunks is that Not, only has the the news been consistent week tweak from from Oh. Jang but. The updates have been pretty consistent starting with around one thirteen. It was that's kind of when we started to get the like big update summer smaller update Christmas sort of cycle. It's not the dates are not exact and it's still I think obviously they flex to win things are done or when they need to be released but I found it it good for the server because really every six months you get some new content and I play all the time as long along with a couple of other people. But there are some other folks that don't because they can't and but then when something comes out when I showed Megan pictures of the another, she's like what what is that because she doesn't keep up with the news cycle great and I think that's one of the things that I find interesting about. The doing this week week is that. We'll talk about the new features coming out. Snapshot. Snapshot. release. RATE UP UNTIL THEY'RE HERE And we already know everything. We haven't missed it necessarily seen it in game or played with it, but we've certainly talked about it in at least a shown for him. Yeah, and. It's while it's cool to be on the cusp of all that I do find sometimes that I have to live vicariously through my friends on the server seeing stuff for the first time because I've seen it weeks and weeks and weeks in advance. And I. Know I've heard about that from other podcasts, cover things like world of warcraft and things that have a lot of development and they get news and interviews. But when it actually comes out there like they're excited but it's also not like they've cut him in, eat sleeping and breathing it for weeks and so is not the same. But yeah I really hats off to the current momentum of minecraft and I feel like it's really been there could not have been a better time in my opinion to start. A minecraft podcast than two years ago because. I don't know if you remember but. I had you on the Citadel Cafe? Sixty one was called Pixel revson and hockey sticks, and the thumbnail is actually a picture of when you're obelisks from I think it was decidedly vanilla. SEASON FOR THE Jungle Lake with all of the kind of. Like Horizon Zero dawn inspired robots and stuff. Yeah. Like yeah. Dinosaurs and that was well ahead of US starting that was in February of two, thousand eighteen and then we didn't start the podcast until. Until August and I think you want another time in between that I can't remember what it was for maybe. It. was another would have been another two hundred episodes coming up in my search but there was another time when I had you on and I. I think it was the idea of. There wasn't. Any other minecraft podcast running at the time into than eighteen. There were some archives they were like three to five years old. And much to the conversation that we had rendered since they were really vulgar like it was an easy listening show. So I thought, wow, there is a whole here for a family friendly all-inclusive content podcast minecraft and. I'm really glad that we did it. It's one hundred episodes. podcasts hit a hundred episodes quite often. There seems to be a big celebration on Youtube when people had a hundred episodes but podcast while it's a nice landmark and it's good to reflect it's not like. The be all end all because people the hundred episodes on podcast all the time and but it's for this particular show. Because of the level of support, it gets and the the amount of fund that I have. We have making it I. I'm really happy that it's something that has. Not survived but something has just shown. It's it's test of time. It's it's not going anywhere anytime soon, and that's a good feeling. I like that it's it's something that we can continuously make. That's fun. And from what we've heard and from our INBOX has value for people, which is Great. Yeah absolutely in the time since we have started minecraft, it has also become the world's best-selling game It was on that trajectory already and we knew that for certain but it has eclipsed Tetris, which I believe was previously the world's best-selling game and has now risen to you know its peak, but not necessarily its peak because I feel like the popularity of Bancroft has the potential to continue to grow and so yeah, this is in theory you know this, this could have been a short series of podcast. It could have just been like, Hey, let's make like ten to twelve episodes about minecraft in how we feel about it but since the game keeps coming the episode's keep. Coming as well it definitely feels like one of those things that can sustain itself now, which is is really awesome and I think our workflow is adapted a little bit so that we can sustain it. The quality of the show has gone up and you know my transition into being a fulltime micro content creator has allowed me to invest a little bit more money and equipment and a little bit more time in projects like the podcast and I feel like that has has kind of showing. We always started with like a good quality product to begin with because I had a background in recording and you've done podcasting for you know close to a decade and I, think we've we've. Gone from a strong position to an even stronger position at this point, which which is very cool I wanted to cover a little bit about the process of making the podcast for folks who haven't listened into any of all Patriot content where occasionally will do a quarterly hangouts that take a look behind the scenes of how the podcast is doing, and we can kind of clue people in a little bit towards. Our process of of making the show. But should we should we talk to people about about like how we make the show just for anybody who might be interested? Yeah I, think. So we can get the technical stuff out of the way quickly because that's going to be the first thing people ask. The Mike that I use is a blue microphone Yeti and it's actually showing its age. It's about eight years older more probably. Well, I've I've had it since I started this cafe. So it's nine years old at least Solta, the microphones though. Using. Yetis, world anything I mean yes it costs me around one hundred and fifty. Canadian when bought it. But if it lasts me nine years that's tekle. Invest in. Thank you very much. It's plug and play. It's it's. It's pretty pretty good. Any recording issue that I've had over the years have been more software related. So speaking of I record my audio on my end with a piece of software for Mac called audio hijack. It's from rogue AMOEBA and it's around thirty bucks. It might be a little bit steep if you're just starting off podcasting but as someone that's been doing it for ten years, it was worth thirty dollars to have virtual audio routing on my machine I could if I wanted to import. Southbound from Youtube or you know live stuff I do a bunch of a bunch of different things. But really what it allows me to do is record. Both my track, Johnny's track and a combat track. Only needs my individual track that he added in later but having to backups running at the exact same time is a just A. Great great idea case bad things happen. You know the Internet does go down dischord does get choppy sometimes. So it's Nice To have those files on hand So. That's me for the technical. What what are you doing for the technical side? Technically. Technically I'm using sure sm seven B., which is the for I use for all my youtube stuff. Going through an analog desk via a usb connection to my computer from there all of the sound goes into ob s where I record my microphone track isolated from desktop audio, which is basically everything else that goes on my PC. But in this case is just the discord call with you and once you send me your audio, I can sync up the the audio track that you. Send me with what you've said in the desktop audio track live recorded that goes into adobe premiere pro, which is what I used to edit video and is also just an editor that I- functionally know my way around very easily. So that leads to a very comfortable editing workflow for me. It's probably not what professionals might use a quote unquote professionals because what's all we? If not professionals? Joel. It's what? Video Editors will typically use to do this stuff and I find it a perfectly serviceable audio editor. It can export to any kind of audio format you want, and so he wants I've done editing tweaking a little bit adding the intro archery music. Then I just send the audio off to you as a finished episode for you to add all of the Meta Data and upload it to the podcast feeds and as far as editing the show I really don't cut very much out there may occasionally be vocal stumbles that we want to do a second take off and that's usually Done live in the moment and our discord audience gets to hear all of that stuff. They already get to find out how the sausage is made in that sense. But we don't tend to cut out large areas of the discussion. We don't tend to edit full-time in terms of the amount of content that goes into the show, which is why our episode lengths vary wildly if we've had a longer discussion that day, then the entire discussion goes into the episode and we don't tend to cut anything time really unless there was just something that we really thought. Well, that was entirely relevant. Irrelevant Tangent. Let's take that out and then once the the episode is topped entailed as it were and split into the Renna Distance, which is the version that goes out to patrons on the Patriot rss feed and spawn chunks, which is the main show. I'm sure most of you all used to hearing. That'll goes over to Joel Joel perpetuate flop flowed? So. Once I get the recorded. Episodes I create the blog post. I use wordpress in combination with a theme called Divvy, which I work with a developer professionally as as a designer. So I've got access to divvy through their multi licensed, but I have on all my website just because it's an easy team to work with especially because it allows you to have some templates and so I have an episode template that has like empty new section, empty email section, empty discussions section, and I just fill in the blanks I take notes from Google doc and I moved over to the show notes I add the MP three once it has like the metadata tags like the description and the author and the title, and I put that into. It's called Blueberry. Blueberry without the ease and the and the US. And it. It that. Plot podcasting plugin for wordpress. Creates the RSS feed and it's that RSS feed that is then sent to spotify I tunes the android Google? Play store. It's on the website and Stitch is the other one. So there's a bunch of different places that all get the same feat. So it's great for me. I only have to do one thing make the blog post make sure it's in the podcast category and hit publish done goes to all the places that most people get their podcasts The only thing that I have to do is the Patriot post the patriarch page it has a really cool feature that has its own RSS feed and that allows us To have both the spun chunks and the render distance on and RSS feed. So patrons can subscribe to your s feet on the Patriot page and then the same way that you would get a podcast from your itunes or from you know in your podcast apps on your phone, you can subscribe to the view from the Patriots page and get the render distance rate on your phone if you're a patriot and so it's the same experience you just have to do one extra step. To log in and get that RSS feed, and then you have the option to have both and I've I've done that before with other podcasts that I support where I don't have time that week to listen to their full extended version, and I have both on the phone because I subscribe to the. and then before I obviously pushed published, I do have to make the show art. So I do the title card every week I usually just pop into a minecraft world that's just called Spun Chunks titled Cards and I just fly around look for a cool spot that's relevant. Maybe spun in some mobs that we might have talked about on the show. And take a screen shot I do mess around a little bit with an photoshop just because especially lately where another is such a dark by OHM. I I will often add a little. Color correction or brightened things up a little bit. So it's a nice clear thumbnail. So when we when we posted online, we've got some cool. The reason we do that is because most people click on links that have photos or images with them yeah, and so that helps and then also The shows was onto youtube, but that's you so that after it's all published on on on the website, I then send the show art back to Johnny and then he puts it on on you. Yes and so if you're one of the folks who listens on Youtube that's kind of my responsibility. So I know the back end of Yuji pretty well at this point. So yeah, it just gets uploaded. The same way regular video does except I've imported into premiere pro one last time with the full show attached to a time line that just cycles between the spoon chunks title art and whatever the episode art is for that week and that just gets uploaded as a video, which is surprisingly large given that there's only like two images in the entire. But it's an hour plus worth of audio. So I, guess that's where all of the data comes in but then that gets uploaded to the youtube feed usually the same day depending on how late in the day we get to publish the main show and that's the the entire process more or less in a nutshell except it's not because occasionally we like to have guests on the show and guests. while. They are lovely to have also introduced like scheduling things that we have to work out and hair to get their audio where all of our guests thus far have been very kind enough to record them microphones isolated in the same way that Jolan I do. So they can get their audio over to me and they've always made it very smooth process and at one hundred episodes I think it should. Be a good thing to thank all of the guests that we've had on the show up point. It's been a pleasure to talk to folks from Hermit Cross folks from the Whiter minecraft survival and creative community minecraft and education folks like Adam Clock Server owners who've been plugging away at stuff for a while like fix it and yeah, we've had Zuma we've had gray and we've had some pretty big names. In the Youtube seen on the show and it's it's always fascinating to talk to New People Hey their approach to mine crofty their philosophy about producing minecraft content, just playing the game in general and what minecraft means to them, and that site it is an absolute delight to be receiving listener emails by the bucket load at this point to the extent that we've had to have help with our email inbox. Can make sure that we can filter out the the the right sort of emails that we want to read on the show, the kind of stuff that's going to lead to an interesting discussion, and it's been great to have a community that supports us in that way. So thank you listeners for that. One hundred percent I it is mind boggling the amount of email like I just I just did not have time. To read it all. But. But speaking of thank you actually that brings a good point I. WanNa give a shout out to Graham and cosmic dancer the mud's in our dischord discord channel. Because they are fantastic at welcoming new members something else that happens at a rate that I can't keep up with which is phenomenal. But it means that there's a lot of people that need to have like, Hey, here are the rules welcome on board just read this before you get going and this goes here and that goes there. You'll find a in general please don't hesitate to ask but I always find the welcoming community in dischord to be super awesome but I know that anagram cosmic are the ones that are setting the example for that as well as other members but there's too many to thank the monster are doing a fantastic job the the thing that I wondering about your process is how do you get ready for the show like what? What does your prep for this bond chunks look? Adding stuff to the show notes and making a cup of tea usually know. From just making sure that my room is as it usually is when I recalled the doors closed, the windows are closed. If I can Batu, it's kind of warm lately. So I haven't really. Shutting my window for like soundproofing as often as usual. But yeah typically like a lot of the stuff that's in the show notes is stuff that I've looked through throughout the week anyway because of my. I have a vested interest in making sure I know what's going on in minecraft. So this almost feels second nature to me at this point typing up a couple of thoughts about how I feel about various things in in a sense whenever I chat about this stuff in videos are on streams. I'm keeping a mental note of Oh that'd be fun to bring up on the spoon chunks. So yeah, I feel like that is now part of my process. Now, the show is sort of folded into the ecosystem of everything else I do in this game and it's it's easy enough to just pop into the show notes and type in a couple of thoughts how about you do? You do anything special. You have like a ritual go through before you start the show well, the showed they're important to me I've been a little bit late to the game. Lately I've been getting getting to the Monday morning normally I'd have them ready and I trip some ideas in I've gotten into the habit both the podcast I do to just quickly open up Google doc and I have thought put it in close Google doc and then just expand later it's just the way don't forget what I wanted to say it's easier with minecraft. It's harder with the cafe because you have to remember like specific things about films television that you're watching and things like that. But. But with this, it's Like you said I have a vested interested in it as well. But usually what happens on Wednesdays if there is a snapshot or Pre release that will come out and I will hear about it either on twitter or I'll notice things on youtube people talking about it and then I will start to formulate. Talk about on the show coming in that week. But. Two of the go-to that I that I cannot fail to mention our is a void and sliced lime. I'll read the patch notes but I rely on youtube videos, those videos to explain some of the more technical stuff sometimes. and. There are fantastic resources for those snapshot. Upkeep so. That's kind of like my behind the curtains like, yes I do the research and I yes I do read the patch notes but I totally watch youtube videos. It's like the Coles notes version it's like here's this thing that are. Things are probably gonNA matter to players, and here's some of the technical stuff that you might not have understood from just the patch notes and it just kind of gets me in a position where I feel I can talk about this stuff from both sides of the coin and and I liked that those videos are part of the weekly ritual to because obviously I enjoy both content creators. Let's call too. But then? I try to bring things in during the week I, try not to do it all at once. The email thing that's a matter of the email being filed into a bunch of different categories. And then me going in and trying to find something that is either one response to the previous episode I'll try to include those if and when I can. Or something that is. Going to generate a conversation at which point Mike get flagged for like this might be better for. A round table you know yeah or if it's a quick hit now, today's a different example because it was episode one hundred we had some stuff that was relevant that was short but if they're really short emails like, Hey, what do you think about this new thing like neither a pick ax or whatever it is then those go into a folder for The Chuck Nell Dispenser, which is the every third week. In the month, we have a special episode that's been unlocked by our. Patriots support, which is we? We skip the discussion section and we just do for the last half of the show. We just do all list or email. We try to get through as many as possible, and so we try to get the ones that are good ideas but are also short. And that just means we can just bank through a lot faster and so so that's usually what happens. It's usually the weekend I started thinking about emails. And then come Monday I make sure I. Usually try to make sure that the notes I'm reading in the notes on Monday morning, but I usually have like. A bullet former throughout the week. Yeah and sticking to a structure like this has been super helpful for the first hundred episodes of this podcast and I imagine we will hit will continue to keep the same show notes format for the last for the next you know hundred and more vickers. It feels like it's it's done pretty well for us so far, and so I guess onto the next hundred. We'll. We'll see how we're feeling about. It come episode two hundred and what space craft will be in who knows but I expect will be looking down the barrel of update one point twenty. Something like that along those lines at that point. 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Online, go by Pixar C. can find most of what I do at Youtube Dot com slash Pixar of soir attempt to make sense of this crazy and wonderful game in a series called the minecraft survival guide I also stream three days a week on twitch twitch dot TV slash pixel rifts doing behind the scenes work for the survival guide series and on the Voice of the unofficial hermit Kroft recap, we can find through a quick such as from that Pixel rifts on both twitter and Instagram Joe where can people find you online? Everything I'm doing online including my illustration and design portfolio was that Joel Duggan, Dot Com the citadel cafe my other podcasts about Scifi fantasy entertainment is at the Citadel Cafe Dot Com and you can follow me on social media at all Doug and I will point you towards twitch dot TV slash Joel Doug and where I did the tour of the Infinity Cove, Patriot services weekend and played it a lot of satisfactory. Thanks for visiting the spawn chunks the world outside is infinite onwards to the next century. And this is the post show yes, we're here. We made it. Yes. which once again, thank you so much for tuning in for the entire show. If you are a regular listener listening to the regular feed, the podcast or perhaps at listening in on Youtube A, we typically hang out for another ten to fifteen minutes after the show is done just to chat about whatever else is on online or anything that we feel like we've omitted from the show notes because sometimes we take so many notes we can't fit all into what we think a reasonable show would be. And sometimes, there's a listen email. We think maybe we'll say this for afterwards. It makes for a good discussion that we can continue now discord chats, or in this case Joel is GonNa tell us a little bit more about what you can do satisfactory because I know you're keen to discuss it. So something that really came to mind this weekend because I've reached the point in satisfactory with the game where I'm planning train routes and these things are massive like I just the train engine itself is. Eight meters by four meters. It's a and it's both minecraft scale in terms of how this game too. So you think like you know eight blocks, four blocks, but it's a single thing that rolls around the world. And it's. It's really complicated in terms of like trying to get the trains to line up and because you need so much room for these things because they don't make. Right. Angled turns like mine carts in minecraft they take. Let's see. Four it was. It's four. So it's like a sixteen meter area to make a right angled turn because to do an arc like it has to do like a curve. It's interesting. No twelve twelve year that does still seem quite reasonable. Yeah Yeah in real reasonable. But you get used to your your mind craft brain going into satisfactory. It's like, Oh, I, can't make. You know because all the other things in the game the road, you can make right turns just like minecraft the the foundations are much larger. They're they're eight by eight meters I guess but but the. Yeah the tracks and stuff are huge because things in this game are just big like everything else larger than life, which is fun. But. It made me think like how much I wish that there was a better mine cart system like that things worked just a little bit better that it was a better form of travel like for example, trains and satisfactory are the fastest vehicle like you're on rails. Where you want, you have to build a road I, but it is the fastest. In terms of land travel and so you know. Maybe, think about like I've been in the mood to do something technical in minecraft forever because of all the technical stuff I'm doing and satisfactory. But I'm really enjoying the the expansion trains and like moving stuff around and I wish that there was ways in minecraft you could see more. I know with some people storage systems like they'll have glass walls vacancy, the items going through on the water streams, and I do that when I can I just wish there was more. Like that in Minecraft, I know that there's some odds and stuff that I could maybe try out but it's one of those things that I. I'm getting a lot of the satisfactory I'm not. I'm not done with minecraft obviously I'm enjoying both but I'm playing about the same. I think I'm putting him with the same amount of time into both games right now and. I'm finding that I'm getting a lot of inspiration as well from satisfactory. So much more limited Palette. You don't have as many different blocks parts as you do in in Minecraft, but it's also a game that's currently in development out yet early access. So. It makes me wonder like down the line what could be in store for satisfactory once it reaches a release date has All the content in it. But, something that. I think. Satisfactory scratches niche that my craft doesn't is the speed at which you can build massive stuff. Your. The train platform has got to be. Oh Gosh. Hundred, you know foundations by fifty foundations so like it's Eight hundred by. Six. Hundred meters. Sort of things in minecraft like big big big big and put it together in like an hour. You not just the flat part of it. I. Mean the technical stuff is gonNA. Take a lot longer but the laying the foundations and filling stuff in does not take that long. Like a SIP SIP, a drink at the in the evenings going to mess around with it before we go to bed and it's done sort of thing, the technical stuff in satisfactory sitting down and figuring out the puzzles of. This thing is making forty five items minute. It has to be split into threes that each of the other machines get fifteen minute. They're spitting something else out that you have to send someone else. I love that aspect of the game it has a real puzzle quality to it but that stuff takes an e. on like the game is just I swear to you if you're watching what it might satisfactory streams, forty, five minutes of cumulatively not all at once but forty five minutes of it is staring in thinking. Not, not just blankly but like we're looking around a build and just Kinda parse out like what's the best way to approach this how many buildings do we need? Where do we put this stuff when we're done? And so it's been really fun and I'm at that stage now in satisfactory where I am comfortable enough with all the game mechanics and I remember reaching this point in minecraft to where. I'm now attempting something massive where building devastator the. The the big factory that's going to essentially eat the world and make all the things and I've decided to go eighties transformer themed. If. I if you're familiar at all with devastator devastator was the he was the big guy in town back when I was six. There's a lot bigger sense, but devastator was all of the construction, the all the construct cons, the backhoe, and the bulldozer and stuff, and they all combined five of them into one giant robot where like each robot would make a leg or an arm. Torso. doodling this as we speak, and there's a very neon green and Purple Stan. Yucky. Going on here neon green and purple. It is an satisfactory has that kind of mood to it where you can paint things whatever you want. You're not there to make friends with trees there to mow things down essentially and so while you want things to look pretty. You also have the ability to do whatever you want and what's cool about satisfactory is that. The the paint gun. You can have preloaded colors. And once you. Change one of those preloaded colors it will change everything you've already painted as well, and there's a there's a default kind of like Classic Factory Orange, and Grey and if you change the default that everything you build from now on, we'll be painted that color and only when you want to change it D- Can you need you have to change it? So I'M GONNA mess around with the default eventually get like this neon green I may not go that neon but I'm GonNa go green and purple, and I'm in the Rocky Desert Zone, which is all kind of brown and blue. So it's really standout. It's going to be it's going to be kind of an eyesore but kind of at the same time. And so because you have control over the color, it gives the limited amount of blocks and textures that you have a higher range because imagine minecraft if you basically had an RGB slider for blocks of. The Palette would be endless and that's what this is. It's like you do only have a few textures of middle walls that you can put up, but you can change them to every color in the rainbow, which is cool. So. Yeah. I'm looking forward to that and it's it's just got me thinking about like. When I was in? I WANNA say it was After I did the Guardian Farm. Once, I started to get beacons I'm trending about the biggest build that I did probably my nether hub. But I would say was probably a solid. Year of playing on the citadel before I reached. A comfort level in minecraft where I'm just like, yeah, I can handle anything like it's going to be big and I have to plan it. But if I I can I can figure it out. And that's about when I started to feel really comfortable with the game and things really started to come together quickly and I really had a vision and then I was hooked once I knew that I could handle. Big Things, in minecraft and complicated redstone project then I, was like okay. Then the world is kind of opened up to me and it's no longer I have to watch tutorial or WANNA do this but I don't know how now I kind of like. I know the general how I may have to go into some details. But. But with minecraft like I'm very very comfortable and I'm just on the edge of that with satisfactory there are still things that don't understand because I haven't long unlocked all the techteriors yet. So nuclear power is there I note exists I know there are some complications with, but I haven't messed with it yet. So I don't know the INS and outs same with aluminum production. I haven't gotten there yet because I kind of a room in my my current factory design. So. I'm just I'm really excited about this and it's making me want to do more technical factory stuff in minecraft but yet. I have to do it in the over world if I wanNA move items around efficiently. and. I'm just trying to think about like what cool link mine cart transportation almost Rube Goldberg because that's the idea behind satisfactory like you can make things really clean and straight if you want to. But if you wanted to have spaghetti nonsense, you can't it looks mad it looks wonderful good luck troubleshooting it, but but it but it looks really really fun and. I've seen some people that have done play throughs were on purpose. They are just like they send the track loop to loop just because we just did just because they want to send the conveyor belt up over something just because they can, and in the end when you do that for hours and hours, it looks fantastic. But have you played satisfactory factory dollar? It. I've still not and I have A. A an inkling, the other games like that Allah just GonNa eat my life and. I WILL WANNA play less minecraft get into something that feels like fraction interesting. That's the problem that I face as minecraft creator of careerwise now is not wanting to allow myself to get too distracted because if my motivation for minecraft drops, then I end up not playing the game for a couple of months, and then that's you know the a large portion of my audience that I'm letting down and a large portion of my career kind of. You know slipping into something different, I? Don't know what that looks like for me But yeah it it's really interesting hearing you describe it because you're talking about you know obviously, you can build some really big stuff pretty quickly in satisfactory but I get the sense that with the train stuff as an example that really only does one thing I mean it might carry. A lot of stuff and you know you might be able to transport yourself around very easily using it but like it is designed just to be a train station I, feel like everything because of the nature of the game, and this is absolutely not criticism of games like satisfactory but everything is designed to have a discrete function whereas everything in minecraft is designed to have. An abstract function and it's all put together from so many small pieces instead of like satisfactory or probably a game on slightly more familiar with no man's sky you get enough two or three material components, and then you build one giant like cube of storage or one giant Cube off base that you can just plop down and it looks roughly the same as usual and You can apply creativity by connecting it in different ways and sort of setting up segments of it. In different ways, you're working on a much larger scale than you are in minecraft wear minecraft. The Minutia is everything and everything is a block at a time. So it takes a lot longer to produce something but in the end you end up producing something that doesn't look like the components. Else has in a way like US blocks in a way that very few other people have unless you copying somebody else's tutorial bailed block for block. So yeah, it's it's really interesting hearing the ways in which the other games have kind of made themselves but still allow for the creativity to come in how you lay everything and whether it becomes something hyper efficient and the creativity is from like how all of that stuff is enabled to work at its highest level of function versus the stuff that is a bit more creative and you know madcap like stuff flying everywhere jetsons world of tomorrow. Kind of style thing where everything's going through tubes in the sky for no apparent reason like I think it's it's really interesting applying stuff like that, and and again that stuff that is all technically possible in minecraft but you have to make several leaps of imagination in order for you to get there man you have to put as much time into acquiring resources for that as you probably put into like the entire satisfactory playthrough is just sand in a desert somewhere. So you can have enough gloss or whatever. Yeah. I think to the thing that I like so much about water systems in minecraft. Item transport stuff and what happens is in satisfactory is movement. And Is Very. Often missing from minecraft they've done leaps lately in thirteen and onward that include more of it bees, for example, ambiance stuff flying around Fox scurrying around like there's more movement now minecraft than there ever was. But. When you're building stuff in minecraft at tends to be pretty still unless you're using Pistons move things around. Single blocks with animations is about what you get is like a furnace having kind of fire crackling relation in front of it is a kinetic is it gets minecraft without a lot of player impo. Campfires or another really great example for for animated ambiance and stuff and with satisfactory once you've got things moving everything is just always moving and so it's A little bit of a slam on your computer, sometimes depending on how busy your computer factories but but but that's also. I don't have the best. But I've seen other people play it. It looks just mad but what I what I find so. Interesting now, and this is where I find that I'm at that level where I am now running into situations where the power poll that they give you in the factory is a powerful it is the size of a stop sign roughly. maybe a little bit taller that's it. So you get. So if you want to move power across the map or if you WANNA move power forty feet down factory, it's the same thing and so I'm trying to I'm. Building. Giant power-poles because I want the power thing I want my power line that goes across the map to be one visible from a distance and to look like a big power line like the ones that you'd see kind of like in our world. Electricity pylons like running a field somewhere. Big Big things forty feet tall. and. So in the process of doing that, I'm then now combining because you don't get anything thicker. So I'm trying to combine different components that are all men for other things. Where the called Conveyor lifts and conveyor polls and conveyor stackable polls and putting them like at the base kind of like piling stuff up at the bottom of these power power-poles to try and beef up the bottom of it. So it looks like more substantial like this is an important power pull. It powers thing next to it. Take Note, and so that's why I'm I. Think I'm just hitting that stride satisfactory where I'm using things like pipes that are meant to move water across the map but I'm using them to make it look like you've ratcheted something to the side of a mountain. And that's that's where I think the creative fund can it comes in and you your base and your factory builds start to look very different from everyone else like I watched a video online the day where somebody was building circles satisfactory. How on earth do you build circles and basically it's just a matter of building these foundations at the right angle because everything that this is where satisfactory has shortcomings compared to minecraft there's no coordinate system, there's a compass, but there's coordinates and there's no Wi- value. You can never tell like say value, there's no vertical value. You can never tell what height you're on. You're using inflatable pocket dimension and you're basically assembling things at the speed of light and yet you can't tell how high you are. And so when you're trying to likings up the meter or When you're trying to line things up across a large distance you're like, Oh, I, guess I have to build a thousand meters of concrete slabs to get there to make sure. Oh, I'm glad I did that because I'm to foundations higher than I think I should be so stuff like that is a little bit tedious. But. What what's. What's Nice about like going with this? The Flexibility of it is that it has the same no gravity as minecraft. So if you build a foundation up in the air and you move stuff around it, nothing happens just float. And so you can get into some cool stuff with like. Building like you could essentially build something that looked like it had like repulsed engines or something. So it'd be like a floating platform. The way they get around is just really fun and I really enjoy the juxtaposition and I'm looking I am getting more and more inspired to do cool things in minecraft. By building in satisfactory I, and this is never going to happen. It would be something I'd have to find on but I would love that if there would be some sort of. Conveyor belt or other way to move stuff around that you could see, i. wish that in Minecraft if you had a mine cart that was full of stuff instead of a mine cart chest, you had a mine cart with just the texture of the thing in it. Yeah So if you. If you had a mine cart with with that was full of grass, it would have grass blocking it. Doesn't have to be fancy just a single block is fine but then. Go back barrels with contents and like being able to open a barrel and actually have the item inside it. Kind of yes. I'm aesthetic. Yeah. That kind of thing would just there's just little things you think man that would that would make mine carts basically I just go back to mine carts. It's like the combination of trains and conveyor belts satisfactory is is kind of like where I land on on. On mine carts in minecraft right now like I. I I'm itching for them to have more content and I'm I'm wondering I know that we haven't mentioned it too much on the show, but they've been all these rumblings in the community about a quote unquote up date but. Unless excited about a cave update but I would be very excited about a cave update including updates to mine carts. which would go hand in hand, right? Yeah. A mining updates of some kind wooden. The ticket and two things before we wrap up here know we are basically at our usual time. Yeah. First of all, fairly certain a conveyor belt small in minecraft has already been made. Because of course, like if you can conceive anything in minecraft, somebody's already made a mold adequate But the second thing I wanted to say was in regards to the knowing your characters hiked in the world like the Y axis value I feel like more games should take cues from terrarium in this respect because terrar- area stunts you out finding. Accessories that you can eventually combine, and so you might find a compass which tells you how far to the left or to the right to you are kind of does it in terms of West but terrarium to game and ascites roller. So you kind of find out how far to one direction or the other you all from the center of the world. Then you can sometimes find a depth meter that will tell you how far down in the world you are Ohio how you are because you can go and visit some islands in the Sky if you're lucky enough to find but then over the course of the game you acquire. So many of these little informational read outs that eventually you compile all. Of them into a cell phone and the cell phone has basically a bunch of APPs on it, which you can enable and disable from the heads up display that tell you things like the weather, the wind direction, where is good for fishing the deb the height if there is any cable nearby, how many monsters they're all what calling monsters there are the. It gets so granular an interesting, and of course, terrarium we mentioned before is the kind of the kitchen sink approach where minecraft is a more conservative in sort of like reserved approach to it, and they've kind of gone with well. Of course, you could tunnel of these into a a kind of Arcane Goblin device and then a cell phone and it'll work perfectly well but yeah I feel. Like satisfactory could use one of those satisfactory has a month but I've not been playing them because I'm selling in my vanilla playthrough, it's one of those things where like you Kinda WanNa play Vanilla minecraft before he plotted minecraft Yeah. Definitely I, always I'm still very, very confused by people who are like I played minecraft for the first time. So what are the molds and I'm like? No. Stick with the main game for them as we will be doing for the next episodes more probably. But thank you so much for listening to the renter distance. IB enjoyed today's extended show if listened on the main feed thanks to all patrons for listening in discord and as always stay chunky.

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1310: "Quiet Riot"

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1310: "Quiet Riot"

"The end or the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end adam curry. John c divorced twenty-one award winning keep on asian media assassination episode thirteen hundred ten. This is no agenda picking a color and broadcasting live from opportunities thirty three here in the frontier boston. Texas capital of the drone star state in the morning everybody. I'm not incurring an from northern silicon valley where they shot the crack and in fact it's voting dead in the bay unjust divorce. That was rather disappointing. I have to say. I'm very happy. There's two of us on the show. Could you imagine if someone like me was partnered with me and we'd just been all in on this with no pushback. That's the most factio. Oh okay all right. No reason to do that but noted. I'm sorry this it's a soft boy. Yeah you're right you're right you're right. Wow man that was something else when it comes to production the overproduced over-produced. And that's what happened when you overproducing you don't know what the audience is gonna do can get really ugly. So what did you see. I'll tell you what i saw. Okay what would i saw was what i expected to see. Kind of Some arm waving. And oh my god and at something especially to assuage the over one hundred to one hundred republican congress. People are a lot of women who are trumpets. scum that that Very irked by everything and their new their new and so they. They got their moment of a little moment to get the applaud and have some fun during the during the talk. You're talking about inside the capitol. I'm still talking about outside the capitol. That's oh that's what i was like. Okay you're talking about the supposed riots. Yeah okay well. I watched i saw two things. I saw the network news. Hand wringing Talking about the twenty fifth amendment freaking out on the on the media showing close ups of people being hustled around. And then but i spent most of my time watching c. span with a camera positioned all the time and to have maybe at a couple of thousand people milling around doing nothing while people are talking about riots. I didn't see any riots lou from that perspective. I saw a couple of skirmishes here. And there i thought the whole thing was was borderline bland. I looked at the outside Most of what you saw was kind of a close up. Shot very few. I don't think cnn or msnbc pulled out for a wide shot at all fox news. Did that a certain point. And and that was impressive to see the capital surrounded by. You're right people milling around. But what i really saw was ukraine. This this was my done. This was this was. This was a setup in an easy one easiest so stupid how this went down you get a whole bunch of people and their and locked up for ten months and they're tired and sick and tired of everything. They've been riled up The president said he was going to join them at the capital on the steps. And then all of a sudden the whole bunch of people are let through the gates and into the capital into the into the actual chambers none. None of this is there. Were i think once you just like black lives matter you get someone to break the windows and then all the people on the bottom will flow in because they just want to be there and what i saw inside was ninety five percent of the people going. I'm here what they were staying within the lines there walking within the ropes lines and they're in a hall of art in there was nobody was defacing anything they were just looking around as though they were guests and they were invited in they were pretty much invited in and then shit started to go down and i think it was manipulated. I'm going to go right out of right out of my sequences and go right to a span calling. I wonder if we have the same. But it's okay. We may have overlapped what you got a. You're getting calling us to okay. Well i have only one or two dishes. I got a bunch but including my zoom which is the best one This is just the call is this. Is the big question about the cops. Pete in tarpon springs florida. What do you make of all this. Thanks for having me on I don't think i've ever watched eastern lives. But i do watch it pretty often. You guys are a national treasure but You know forty ask you a question have you. Can you imagine where the capitol police. Well people understand congressman. I understand that senators were taking their safe. The electoral ballots were preserved. How am i watching. An hour's worth of vandals walk around inside of our nation's capital on the senate floor on the house floor. Sitting in the speaker's chair banging the gavel caring podiums around rummaging through senators papers on their desks where are the capitol police. i'm gonna be Be nice about it. I'm not saying A billy clubs and and zip ties but where are the but let me say but kickings. This should be going on when this would happen. Anywhere supports our nation's capital. You couldn't get listed a football game. You couldn't do this at a concert. You couldn't do this. you can do this anywhere much less. The capitol building. I mean what did you think when. I'm watching forty five minutes. Where are the police. When you people rummaging around on the floor of the senate opposite. There's a lot of questions Right now as we wait for more news and An after action report of how this all transpired is the the picture of the senate chamber one of the protesters sitting in the chair of the presiding officer. Let's go to george in alabama all right just a couple of things just to get it out of the way compared to anything. We've seen this year when it comes to quote unquote riots in the mob to me what i saw when people are you know outside of the capitol surrounding it and making their voices heard. That was like yeah. That's that's pretty good. At least it's the people's house but then when all this went down. I mean it's so different from from anything else we've had tons of protests we've had people being killed being shot being hurt and it's all just like whatever now an actual law enforcement officer whose name we don't know I heard it was actually someone from schumer security detail but the name is not known. That's not being blasted everywhere. The victim is not known yet known. But it's not being you know. There's no posters. No national holiday in remembrance is i don't care if someone's black or white you treat the situation the same and look at the difference in what really happened. This was not a full on mob or riot but as if nothing else ever happened is bad as the worst in history. This has never happened before. Have we can't believe it. And i spoke to reduce for two. Is there and any first of all the guy in the viking outfit which everyone said that's antifa He's seeing this guy almost every single trump so he doesn't think that's true said. This guy is clearly I believe he sits here. yeah. I think he's sincere to now doucet for said that Alex jones was there and he was jumping up on pallets and chairs and tables whatever he could do outside the capitol tell people stop. Don't go in And people he said. Look so amped up. That wants someone. Guess just like the black lives matter you know once someone smashes the door of the at the window of the gucci store then then people go in and everyone just like they just flooded in and that was it but how that can even happen is is is very very strange to me and And it was true it was truly a whole bunch of pissed off people who are outside. He says he's not a million. I think is probably between five hundred six hundred in total everywhere and the president. I think he blew it. I think he blew it. This is From his speech out there this is the first. This is just the opening and after this. We're going to walk down. And i'll be there with you. We're going to walk down to walk down anyone you want but i think right here. We're going to walk down to the capital. Cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women. And we'll probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you're never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength then. You have to be strong so that was the his message to go to the capital which he never did. I don't know if that was dumb thinking if a plan to do it. But the end of his speech t held him up man. He was over producing. These people. Were already amped enough. And maybe if he hadn't even done a speech at all it still would've happened. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore. are exciting. Adventures and boldest endeavors have not yet begun my fellow americans for our move for our children and for our beloved country. And i say this despite all that's happened the best is yet to come so we're going to we're going to walk down. Pennsylvania avenue. I love pennsylvania. We're going to the capital and we're going to try and give the democrats are hopeless. That never voted for anything. Not even one vote but we're going to try and give republicans the weak ones because the strong winds don't need any of our help we're going to try and give them to kind of pride and boldness need to take back our country. So let's walk down. Pennsylvania avenue i wanna thank you all god bless you and god bless america. Thank you all for being here. This is a thank you very much When i over produced the that was the message. When i went out too far and all you needed was just a couple of dick wads. Riling this up. Which is why i say exactly like like ukraine. I mean here. Here's just a random quote from someone in the crowd. He sounded sincere reporters trump supporters. They were dressed as trump supporters. But i could tell by their conversation they were looking to do. I heard him say we gotta shake this up so that these people look bad and i saw them break in the window on the capital. I'm an emergency management coordinator and in pennsylvania and these people were talking about amongst themselves listener behind what they could do to make from people. Look back yeah. I'm pretty sure that's went down. Here's a pretty sure to. It makes nothing. But since here's a guy said when. I'm watching this thing from just from the non network perspective right and right right. It's just a bunch of people milling around. They got a lot of flags. Disapprove a couple of guys that bullhorn and it's just like the thing. I witness in el cerrito. Wasn't that much different. And the fact that the people start going in. And i think you're right it's like anything else. Gucci store gets broken into going in and they got they start going through the windows and then they were there and there's nobody to stop them roaming around john. Did you see the video of the capitol police opening the gates and letting people onto the outside of the capitol building. I did not see that just opened the gates and there's one guy likely was scammed in. Here's a. c. span caller which you can interpret in many ways. It's thought this was interesting. Max in boston. Max go ahead. Hi thank you so much for giving a platform for all of us who want to share what we're thinking about right now in for taking my call One thing. I just wanted to get out there And something that's on. The minds of so many people in this country is how the reaction from law enforcement of this riot differs from the reaction that was present so from once ago during the black lives matter protests in reaction to the killing of george floyd At the time several months ago folks are protesting civil rights. They were and police brutality. And we're met with you. Know a huge force from the national guard. Tear gas rubber bullets. And what we're seeing. Today is nothing in comparison to that. And what we're seeing. Today is a full blown riot that borders on a coup. I just think that it is so horrifying to see the double standard in this country for protesting subjugation of people of color versus a full blown riot to. That's all that's all i wanted to mention. Thank you all right. Max in boston so i think you make an excellent point. Why wasn't law enforcement beating people down like the do with black lives matter although he immediately makes it racial and he says well law enforcements. No good really really really think. The capitol police Care about what color the people who are coming in what team. They're playing for an end. Pence came out with his his note at exactly one pm eastern. That's probably why trump didn't go up. There is because pence as you correctly predicted didn't do anything that he could have done. And now there's this wild story by lynwood on if you follow this about pants which he started a couple of days ago and he was calling penetrator traitor he s to be yesterday. It's got to be shot. Gotta be locked up. This is also from c. span in bellevue washington carmen. Hi i'm so grateful for letting me tell you what i've been experiencing overnight. There were were anarchist tweets. I kept going into these There'd be accounts that would be talking about the end lynnwood whose associated with trump said pants is in fact a traitor. I have the evidence. And i've interviewed with a blur. I am sending pence to world of the block. He will never be released. He will spend eternity there then. Key re tweeted early or a little bit later at five thirty a. m. pacific time. I'm sorry i'm shaking. Because i saw this happening and i didn't know who to tell. But ron watkins. Who's the administrator for two and on he tweeted out three of three and on the very bottom. Luckily i'm gonna. I'm gonna sign okay. And then this was the gem from c. span. I love hearing this. Balkan california simona in the morning and thank you go there you go. That's what we need. You didn't catch. I didn't either but a couple of people a couple of people offers So clearly a trump was left with no friends around him. Everybody deserted him. And i think there's this maybe something to that penn story. How many times did we hear in the past. Four years that he was on board with the twenty fifth amendment which now of course is immediately and play for the last two weeks. What is that about. I mean are they worried that inched by the way we do have to mention that it was ashley babbitt. Who was gunned down. Shot in the next shot in the neck from the outside through the through the window to what i saw. That video go would you. There's a bullet hole right there. The bullet hole was there. But i wasn't worthy shot. Was you saw the gun. Come out doorway to be honest. You sent me the video. And i've seen it. I've been sent to me a thousand times. I can't look at it. Comes out of the doorway. She's about four feet away shoots ranges. go down. It's murder well. There wasn't much to the video. It wasn't that gory because much of the in bullet hitting her was actually blocked by the get. The guy was inside the other room for filming it anyway. Okay well at the very least. We should know who did that. And the seems seems to be zero. Not zero motivation to talk about that at all. i find it peculiar. There's only one reason because it was it was murdered was meant to stir this all up. These people don't care anyway. So i don't buy any of that crap about pants including what you just said and i think this lynnwood is not pants as just a what he is. He's the vice president doesn't do he does what he's supposed to do and he does. He did what he did. In fact i have the entire arizona process recorded if anyone is interested in the mechanism the mechanism of oh a long. It's one minute definitely. Let's do that. The entire mechanism is right here by the way. Ironically this there is only one which was the first and the only one that went anywhere. It was actually Amy klobuchar came out with the I guess he was assigned to do. This came out and from the senate and put down the arizona presentation. And i just thought it was ironic so was interesting and i think i caught this from rahim kasan or something. A couple days ago a grassley grassley office had made an announcement to the roll call which is publication of who is and isn't going to be in a in in congress that day and said well. I'm going to replace mike pence If he's not available or fees in there and and that seems like they kind of were ready for some something pence ducked out right away is sheltering in place. I have to say knowing. That really wasn't as horrible as it looked from. The outside what was going on in the inside didn't think so. At least i got quite a bit of joy from seeing our representatives with those plastic bags over their head with for the gas masks. Like wow. I've never seen them come out with those things over their head but pence duck out immediately. He was gone. So was this distraction to get him out. I didn't know he came back. Nobody came back. He came back and then by then i mean. Tv wasn't even show you had to watch c. span. Nothing was being shown anymore. They're just all about riots riots. The mob trump horrible bad. Let's listen to the arizona's the okay just gonna say that Amy isn't when it came out to make this proclamation and it was interesting because she could not have liked michigan. Canelas name but but this is the process you go through to to affirm the election and this is A moment where you can stop it. And it was stopped and they went and debated it. That was killed and that was the end of the whole deal. Here we go. Mr president this certificate at the electoral vote. The state of arizona seems to be regular in forum and authentic and it appears there from that. Joseph r biden junior of the state of delaware received eleven votes for president and kamla d harris of the state of california received. Eleven votes for vice president. Are there any objections. To counting the certificate of vote of the state of arizona that the teller is verified appears to be authentic. I paul gosar from arizona gentleman from arizona right. I rise up for myself and sixty of my colleagues to object to. The counting of the electoral felt from. Arizona is the objection in writing and signed by of senator. Yes it is presented in writing and signed by both a representative and a senator complies with law chapter one of title three of the united states code. The clerk will report the objection objection to county electoral votes of the state of arizona. We a member of the house of representatives and a united states. Senator object to the counting of the electoral votes of the state of arizona on the ground that they were not under all of the known circumstances regularly given farther further objections to the certificates from the state of arizona. Jerry on two houses will withdraw from joint session. Each house will deliberate. Separately on the pending. Objection and report is decision back to the joint session. The senate will now retire to its chamber so that that wasn't actually the moment when it kicked off though was it was the moment when it kicked off. There's the exact moment when it kicked off. I guess there was watching pelosi. She was also she was gone. She was gone right away. She was she was because i i saw some representatives saying madam speaker i mean mr mr speaker like whooped. No one knew what was happening. Now all of this will be hashed out. I'm sure by many smart people for many many weeks. Here's what i focused on. Thanks to neil jones producer. Neil john's for helping me with this the problem that we have now we saw this brewing is that now we have the hashtag. Remember anybody who did anything anyone who said anything about trump ever in their life. they should not be forgotten. We have to remember. They have to account and here are some examples and this is the troubling part. This is really what this has to stop. What is going on now in the mainstream media and on the floor of our congress. This is romney. This douchebag we gather duda. We selfish man's injured pride. What happened here. Today was talking about himself list. What he says what happened. Here today was an insurrection. Those who choose to continue to support a dangerous gambit by object into the results of a legitimate democratic election will forever be seen as being complicit. An unprecedented attack against our democracy noticed by the way how when protesters peaceful protesters and rioters are burning up. citizens stores and cities that You know it's like wow. This is okay but now when the elites are threatened holy crap. No no no. It's not just bad. It's chuck schumer bad president. Franklin roosevelt set aside december seventh nineteen forty one as a day that will live in infamy. Fortunately we can now a january sixth twenty twenty one to that very shortlist of dates in american history that will live forever in infamy for those who don't know he's comparing what happened yesterday to pearl harbor. This three thousand americans desecrated blowed up. Its windows smashed. Our offices vandalized offices. World saw americans elected officials hurriedly ushered out because they were in. Harm's way the house and senate floors were places of shelter until the evacuation was ordered leaving riders to stalk these hallowed halls lawmakers in our staff's average citizens who love their country serve it every day feared for their lives. I understand that one woman was shot and tragically lost her life. We mourn her and feel for her friends and family. These images were projected to the world foreign embassies cable home. Their capital their home capitals to report the harrowing scenes at the very heart harrow. Chrissy this will be a stain on our country not so easily washed away. The final terrible in del indelible legacy of the forty fifth president of the united states undoubtedly our worst so perfect. We get to end. The trump presidency with this guy is an enemy of the state. his supporters will always be remembered. And will they are terrorists they are. There's an insurrection. Thanks chuck schumer. Terrorists has so we go to the. Tv's here's all of a sudden a pops former cia director john brennan. I think it's a stain that'll be on them for the rest of their not just their careers but their lives. I want to bring into our conversation. John brennan former director. Nbc news senior at national security. You make this scene today. This de-escalate words escaped me. And i need to try to anger in check. Because when i'm watching this footage of the desecration of our nation's capital the global symbol of our great republic and it's happening because clip says he uses the word. Desecration thank you. These people walk through the halls of the of the art. That was all over the all over the capitol building. They did nothing. they didn't have kansas spray paint. And just within recent memory of course it was a a some sort of a protest in washington. Dc where they tried to crash down to washington. They want rid themselves to the washington monument. There spray painting tearing down george washington d. Real descecration there was no such desecration but he uses that word and even beyond that this guy. This guy is one of the worst people ever. No one has a problem with getting rid of paintings of racists presidents. No one has a problem with taking down statues. Now this is the hallowed hall. You see i mean. They have literally taken down busts of presidents who were slaveholders up. Take it away. Can't be in the capital. I don't care it's not just making this up he had desecration of the hallowed halls where no citizen may walk. I think by the way we have the right to go in there and time we want but anyway because when i'm watching this footage of the desecration of our nation's capital. The global symbol of our great republic is that is the capital the global symbol. And it's happening. The cost in individual in the white house who has the title of the united states by the way the criminal always likes to return to the scene of the crime as soon as they can never fulfilled. Those responsibilities is the one who actually has encouraged and incited this. But i must tell you. I have never ever seen something like this. I never imagined. I would see something like this in the united states in our capital. I also wonder as has been said before. Why has this been allowed to happen when we saw lafayette square by the white house is very aggressive and authoritarian. Tactics used against protesters. Listen to this not violating in fact the nation's capital and so. I think there are so many questions here. So he's doing. He's putting a little little bit extra cherry on top by saying oh yes looks like law enforcement really helped them because they are in trump side. Yeah they are on that side. That's why they let them all in. Yeah and they were white however For according to usa for and a couple other people said there was an inordinate amount of asian americans who were rare and very pissed off which i thought was interesting observation. Now show that on. Tv no over on cnn. Anderson cooper kind of kind of takes the cake when it comes to bitching and moaning about someone even if it's seventy million people who voted for trump. he doesn't care we're watching these images that people some of them leaving the capitol grounds wandering back high five each other smiling quite pleased with themselves what they have done today. And it's truly just outrageous and pathetic. Each of these people should be shamed for what they have done today. We should look at their faces. And if i was standing on that street look at them. They're high fiving each other for this deplorable display of completely unpatriotic completely against law and order completely unconstitutional behavior. It's stunning they're going to. You know to the olive garden and to the holiday inn they're staying at in the garden marriott and they're going to have some drinks by the great day that they had in washington they really did something in stand up for something and they stood up for nothing other than mayhem and a man who is in the despicable waning days of a failed presidents. There you go you stupid olive garden mayhem. Yeah this was not mayhem now. Let's say defeat. Interrupt your flow and go. Lets go to europe okay but started to deutsche avella darts laughs at ville. They're not that into you know Into the into any of this that much. But but they're part of the chinese empire so they're going to produce something so they brought it this guy in in in in bremmer in burma you remember. Ian bremmer is yulia. Ian bremmer was the guy who had the pallets full of money in iraq and was doling it out to everybody. He was he. He got fired for mismanaging billions of dollars. Well now well. He still hates trump. Who i he's part of. The eurasia group is headed the eurasia group. Hell yeah you know spooks involved with that and so here is a clip. One of him they bring him on. The deutscher village did talk about this horrible situation earlier. My colleague phil gaels phototherapy groups president and brenna got us his reaction to what was unfolding in washington. Originally you talk about the the biggest risks facing a twenty twenty one and now we're in a situation where trump supporters have master on and in the usa capital. I think number one on your list of the biggest risks facing twenty twenty one was the joe biden presidency. Just explain to us why that was a big risk for the world. The risk was forty six asterisk. It was the level of division in the united states the most powerful country in the world and yet by far the most dysfunctional and divided political system. The last week. Everyone's been asking me. How could you not make corona virus risk number one and i think we're all seeing exactly how in front of our eyes right now. This is a president of the united states. Who has personally done everything he can to de legitimize this election outcome to say that joe biden has stolen despite the fact that that is indeed. Not the case. This is by far the worst election since eighteen. Seventy six in the us. That's the first time in. American president has acted to undermine the role of lawns such direct way since the founding of the republic. It does me no good personally to say this. I consider myself a patriot of what has been a great nation. Yeah i watched a little bit of bbc and sky as well last night and they have people on like this ian bremmer. You never see here. And they they just they talk big game. I don't think many consequences. I'll just tell. These brits was going on over here now. The second clip which doesn't have the number second says be s I think this is a pity. Misers to me reality versus perception and brammer says something in here that is just the guy stops him and says and calls him on it. I just thought this was. This was the way. I felt about description of this. So-called riot consider myself a patriot of what has been a great nation. But this is the worst day for this country in my lifetime. I mean it's right up there with nine eleven and yet this is self inflicted. That's what's so incredibly painful about what we're seeing in front of our eyes. Today's opposed to nine eleven. Were stay i mean it is bad and And unprecedented but we're looking at live pictures now. What we're seeing is hundreds of people on and around the capitol building. Police are there as well but there appears to be no violence putting it up there with nine eleven that that sounds a bit strong explained to us. Why just a little bit strong. Probably did he explain. Why is clip tree tries to but he does it really because you can't because the guy had the same video feed i was looking at which is a bunch of people hundreds the night jumping out of windows and falling to their. They're doing anything. They were filming around five. They finally got bored and left and they all left before the curfews for a very few of them. And the the me that you keep hearing on the this guy said it Romney said it schumer said it. They're all saying the same thing. Worse day in my life. Worst day i've ever experienced the worst thing i've ever seen always the worst thing and they're all it's almost like there's a mandate came out the worst in history. You think so. Let's hear what this guy's excuse for for the fact that this. This correspondent is rightfully looking at the video. And saying i don't see what you're talking about. A first of all a woman has already been critically injured and shot inside the capitol building. The virginia national guard is being deployed to the area. I fear you're going to see a lot more violence but the point is not how many people die. the point. Is that a nearly half of the american population actually believes that this election was stolen. Believes that joe biden is not their president come january twentieth and that is a lie that has been directly propagated by the president of the united states with the support of a majority of elected officials in the republican party in the house and the senate and with that is complete. That's right you could never talk about resident. You can never talk about these. Things never happened before by the way. That's what's new. Not my idea of not my president never heard of it and this and this is the It's not unexpected. But from the same people who want peace and calm and love and equality and equity and justice but if you voted for trump Nine you're not you're not afforded that you you had four years now we're going to get. Yeah we're gonna watch. Here's nora as a result of this modern descending on the dot stop. I don't have any nora clips i feel bad about. She was the absolute worst the worst he was so horrible that was pretty good watching her and she is. She is a horrible horrible horrible woman. She's a horrible woman. Cbs get rid of her immediately. As a result of this mob descending on the capital after cited by the president of the united states history and it was it wasn't incited by the president are being incited by the president of the united states. His son and rudy giuliani alleged. She should've said after being incited by. The president of the united states is son and rudy giuliani and a couple of podcasters incited by the president of the united states. His son and rudy giuliani. This has led to this extraordinarily historic and historic is sounds like a positive. But i don't mean that because we've just never witnessed anything like this in our life please. Okay it's it's nothing witness. Nothing like this in our life. Let's go to savannah. Guthrie on nbc. At this really dark moment in our country it calls to mind our history and that this this democracy this only a few hundred years old is fragile. As we've heard many of our leaders do today and the notion of somebody just grabbing those electoral votes which of course represent the will of the people and and the voters who who came and an exercise their precious right to vote. You know it it actually. I think it really puts things into sharp relief at this extraordinary moment in our country. And casey honestly there are probably folks tuning in here who are just living their lives when the midst of a pandemic we have an actual crisis going on health crisis in our country and now there's this crisis that did not have to happen well crisis. Cnn was better than this. Yes i'm gonna sit. Stand in was better better. Now let me. I have to point out something that clip. i didn't get. I'm glad you got these. Because i'm getting other clips. I have a clip limit. When i get to a certain number of clips that fill a certain page. I'm not so. I didn't go back and get disadvantage. Got three and all these. But i saw that stuff. It was really pathetic but the one. I may go back to get pull it back for. Sunday was on pbs. It was a lisa desjardins leave. You didn't pull that one. I've got it. I just didn't produce it And and and the whole what's her name. I forgot her. Who's the head of the News but it's lucy. Alice lucy lucius is now lucy. I forget her name route to. I don't know why i think she's going to quit. She was what flustered. But these desjardins was yakking away about and she was shook up by this. T got a hold of some republican. Senator i believe or a congressman who say who blamed the entire episode. Judy judy judy woodruff. Judy judy already forgetting her name. She says she's fading. Yeah this is bad. Signed by the way for her So she's going and she was shook up by the fact that this guy this this congress person told her that it was the media. This whole thing was the media's fault and then it gets you read the ri- yes yes yes yes. This is exactly what you're seeing them. Act like this. They are aired crap. 'less should she was really shook up. She was shaking. You got had judy after that could not and this is the clips you'll be looking forward to. She could not get through a sentence. Chaba get get gaba. Good gigi gig. She was stumbling and fumbling and trying to collect your thoughts. She was a wreck. I think the meat is the media's got to becoming to grips with the fact that this is their fault. Well the media is getting it front and front from right straight on. I mean i. I saw the crowd moving back towards the cameras. And it's sad because these are likely just independent camera. Guys and independent producers were stringers and doing something there and people just walked up and just kick their lights over kick their cameras over just trampled over it and this happened everywhere fox news. This is Griff jenkins so. It's a mixed bag. Bill really on how people feel about election and why they came out here and then of course the situation. You're seeing which is a totally different level of violence in what's happening out here irving heckled by inside that capital two different situation. There is a lot of as you can see this gentleman's arison fake news. And if you listened to the president's speech today he began that speeds by going after the media by going after the media and he talked about media all the way through it and now that message from the president clearly his Being reiterated by many of the supporters. Here as we walk in the streets and try and tell their story bill. So that's the fox news guy. He gets off easy but now. Let's see how afraid. Cnn was cnn really man. They really did a good job. You already heard pooper. Van jones I kinda respect van jones. He he did add a little bit here at the end which made him sound almost human. We don't know what we're looking at yet. Is this the end of something whether the beginning of Is this the death row trick trick till trick is the beginning the end or the end of the beginning or the beginning of the end road at throes of something ugly in country desperate about to go away. That biden talked about is going to rise up or is this the birth pangs worst disorder. That's where we are right now tonight. Did he say disorder on a second or these pangs of a worst disorder. Disorder sorta okay. That's where we are right now tonight. And i think the country's gotta make a decision i don't want to be partisan i understand. Some of these people their social media feed is only showing them example. After example of anecdotes of vote theft statistical magical thinking that says this election was impossible. they've been bombarded with that and because been abroad with that. They're ingrid fine. You're right to be angry. You don't have a right to insurrection. Addition to to break in police officers to be aligned. We actually do as per the constitution. Have that right. John king shorty from cnn. It's a scary scene plain and simple. It is a scary scene. And every american has the right to protest. Even if what they're protesting is a fantasy. Guess not jake. Tapper takes the cake on again. This guy was out of control. I watched him to. He was out of control. He was just it was. He's no good. They're not protesters there. Insurrectionists or i mean terrorists people who commit violence In the name of political ideology we call them terrorists. That's what we call who commit acts of violence for political or religious cause in any case. Dan what i wanted to finish saying was rudy giuliani this morning at that rally called for trial by combat. Donald trump junior said to members of congress. Who were not going to join this deranged attempt at a bloodless coup will now. It's not bloodless anymore said quote. We're coming for you and we're going to have a good time doing it. I suggest you choose wisely. No i'm sure that rudy giuliani and donald trump. Junior will say that they were merely speaking figuratively or they were talking about engaging in political combat. Maybe they were maybe they were not. I think it's pretty clear that a lot of people took a different message from the rally. In general actually. It was one of the tamer ones over on fox. Racism was on. Everybody's mind for some reason. You know donna brazile. Who for a while there. She was running the dnc. She was on cnn then. He got caught smuggling the questions To hillary clinton and she got fired and then fox Hired her listen to her response if she comes back from dana with a lot of elation for eighty million that voted for biden and terrible distress for those who voted for president trump but again the country was founded on ideas was not founded on one person or one man and if we get back to our principals get back to those ideals remember to pray together and hold each other up. We'll be alright. I like that message. Thank you dana. We still have done for one final comment yes dana. You're i'm here. I'm here dana. So white so right. Rear truth wants to come out anybody. Dana is so white. How does that happen. How do you mess up dana. So right with dana. So white you gotta be thinking something like that embarrassing embarrasses so y desk. I'm gonna give you clip of the day for that one. That's that's all right now. We have the way Did you know that. James murdoch. Who's the one who basically destroyed fox for the right wingers Because of course his wife is a big supporter. hillary yes council of foreign relations. All no you don't say all right two messages one from the current president one from the incoming president this was president trump after he was and this really. Set it all to me when you have the social media. Networks blocking the president of the united states is for twelve hours. He's on a twelve hour time out because of something. He's tweeting and facebook to do you understand that this is not the place for you to have conversations that this is just not. I mean this is not a healthy thing. This is controlled if they can see if they'll shut the president. Shut anybody up. Oh yeah anyway do set for somebody who's posting pictures of the for poor Ashley babbit getting shot in the head. Well there's that but also When it comes to silicon valley's a tom collins. Tim cook is the first one out of the gate saying these. This deplorable no more apple products. Then come on man we have to remember. We must remember how this goes. We can't let me see. I have it here. Cold capital insurrectionist accountable says apple ceo. Tim cook careful. Tim careful to. Here's the message that the president Recorded on an iphone and and they sent it out one way or the other. I know you pain. I know you heard we had an election that was stolen from us. There was a landslide election and everyone knows it especially the other side. But you have to go home now. We have to have peace. We have to have law and order. We have to respect our great people in law and order. We don't want anybody hurt. It's a very tough period of time. There's never been a time like this. Where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us from me from you from our country. This was a fraudulent election. But we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace so go home. we love you. You're very special. You've seen what happens. You see the way others are treated. That are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel but go home and go home at peace dreiling. The crowd up here is joe biden damned. I got only got sixty seconds of what he had to say. But he is. Of course the peace and calm and these troubling times at america's about honor. jesus. She respect tolerance. That's who we are actually always had the certification electric collar electoral college vote. He's still doing the electric college so that we have to look forward to go. Yeah that'd be nice. But i'm not quite sure how many different it's psychological operations were running. I certainly have a few people who i who i will no longer be speaking with trusting and Back on the way you put it earlier. No always said. I said very clearly a lot of people in in with intelligence connections and backgrounds have been telling me about the crack in and all this all the tracking of the ballots. And how was all going to work. And cindy powell who. I still respect for as a as a lawyer but rudy all of this nothing. Not a single thing came through not a single one. It may have looked a little bit like it but really nothing came through. And we still have a lot of unexplained anomalies. You know i'm not going to bore you with it. But now there's absolute proof. We know coup changed. The votes went through. Italy and went through a contractor was satellite systems and they know and they tracked it all. Well i'm done. I'm done it. I have we have actual crap going on but this i cannot follow this anymore. It's just it's. I'm sad about it because i feel also i feel a little bit because you re hoping that i was going to be no had nothing to do with you. I was i was a mason little mentioned in the last show that you hope upon hope it. Maybe maybe what did you give me some grief for being wrong. No i never said that. Why i get something to get the clip for me. Shut up if i if i if i intend to. That would have been really clear about it now. I'd never do that to you. In the first thing i said is i'm glad there's two of us. This was a little bigger than oh. I was right. You're wrong john. So i don't think that that's what i had in mind. Whatever you heard that okay. That's not maybe but the but you would like to right. Tell me i'm wrong. Of course i would like to have been right but not the right against you just to be right about all the things i've been told about you. I will say this. This was not your fault. thank you. it wasn't it was you had you use. I do to you use sources of information to put this show together And you somehow got hoodwinked to be honest about it or they got hoodwinked and they were so sincere that they got you to believe him. The whole thing was hold on. Let's separate things between believing and reporting with conviction. It's not like. I'm believing anything i'm saying. This is what i'm here and i've been consistent. I didn't say this is true. This is what i'm hearing and yeah we we had the story which was really sketchy about too hard drives with hunter biden which came through in barely legible. English turned out to be true. So that's why that is true. But that was repressed it well. Yeah we'll have that. I have an essay coming to focus on moving forward is let's deconstruct the new world order. That is coming in to build back with her and let well before we do that. I have to clips. And they'll be done with it a c. span. Call 'cause they're good. I want to hear that. I wanted to ariza revealing and as deconstructing as anything we ever do a because it comes through some sincere point of view as people witnessed this and watching c. span. You'd think they'd have a common perspective. But they don't as an aside. I do want to say that. I completely believe. The dominion voting machine vote changing. I completely believe that. I think i've seen sufficient evidence. I heard a really good one. Which is i have no clip of that. It was so sophisticated that they would If they needed if they needed ballots like empty. You know if they need a new ballots they would look for a number ballots. They would whoever they was was checking the voter rolls in real time to find some names. And those with spitting out these names to be added to these ballots. Could all be true. I don't know the demeaned vote. We have to get away from these stupid voting machines. That clearly is a problem. And i still think there was enough. Switching going on Doesn't matter i'm going to play these clips. And then we're done with that until some actual proof comes this is from the senate runoff same machines in atlanta. Good morning here from. dekalb county. Some enforcement news to report elections officials. Now telling us here that it's just recently tuesday night into wednesday that they encountered some technical glitches which is causing some significant delays and getting those votes counted. We know that there's about one thousand nine hundred thousand in person votes left to be counted. That's according to last update from the secretary of state's office games sterling the last update here chris that we got from. Dekalb county eleven. They're working on a statement to give us the details of exactly what's going on behind here behind those doors. Virtually come to a standstill as we are all waiting on those returns. Nineteen thousand votes. That really could change the difference in outcome of this race. I know everyone watching it very closely. Chris panic people are going to seize on this. So let me just give you a quick follow up here. What is the best reckoning right. Now of how officials are explaining what the problem is and what isn't about. They're not just planning simply they're not they are giving very limited information just saying on the record that they are technical glitches that we did hear somebody inside. But that wasn't from an official. So i want to repeat these unconfirmed information. There's some rumors floating around here. Exactly what can happen But we don't want to tell our viewers unconfirmed information right. Now though officials are saying is that there are technical glitches causing delays details. Here an extra minutes okay. Glitches all over the place. We get no good no answer to that at all by the way the mailing voting is clearly the biggest problem was. I'm gonna play this anyway. It's a minute fifteen seconds. This is the woman who's going around saying she is positive. Proof house how. The dominion votes were changed. I just wanna play as we've heard it. They sucked of the election was orchestrated in the remember. The on the second floor of via veneto by an employee stefan serafini foreign service officer of over twenty years. He retired the day before the election to ensure he would not lose his pension on like what happened to some of the fbi agents. He portrayed our country twenty six fifteen and did lose their pension. Just they've before retirement so stefan phoenix coordinated with a general plow. Do graziano and cloudy graziano. Jim mcgrath yona is on the board of leonardo defense contractor. Leonardo at leonardo us their military satellite uplink to load the software and transfer it over to change the votes from trump biden. So what everybody's been saying is that we know something happened. We know something happened. The proof that was missing the very basic who did it. Where did they do it. And how did they do. It had been missing from all of the all of the documents and into the courts all of the app. David's there was nothing that was helping us win in the courts right so just want to get that out there because so many people who sent it to me. I felt obliged to share final thing. We have a lot more to discuss but we now have. I think the following situation with political parties in our country the whatever. The republican party was is going to be so. I think they're probably going to be more center of right than any idea far right now. This is the working class. This is Close to two democrats really the fiscal conservativeness. And who's going to run that destroyed. I don't think trump can bring all that back together But what's happening with the democratic party. I think we're going to see the split now. Taking place where we have the socialist democratic party and i think the nazi party i really do. I think you're gonna have this. This group of people like you heard speaking there who were going to go after the jews which will be the trump supporters. And they're gonna act like nazis so it'll probably be small could gain ground to have those two pretending to look like the same socialist movement but i really feel they've split into squad over here and then the real a whole who've been there for a long time they're going to start locking people up and doing all kinds of nasty crap okay. I'm not seeing it that way. But how do you see it. I think the trump thing is a is a real thing. Trump is trump trumpsters or whatever they call them I think it's what is done is it's put shed a light on china Shed a light on immigration and some internal policies and regulation. And i think it sensible. And i think it's going to continue and i think the democrats are going to be. The democrats are fractured. They've always been fractured. I think this is the thing about getting rid. Getting back into. Trumpsters is just a is exaggerated and because of biden biden. Won't let it happen. Biden's very much show you know a anti division guy. He wants everything to be biden. Barely has biden's not gonna do anything now. Biden's going to make a lot more than you think really. Yeah like what i think. He's gonna do what he can to keep his this anti trump team for getting completely out of hand even though he's the biggest one of them and he's going to just calm. Try to calm people down and he's going to have to get us through the depression. Which is something democrats think they can do. And that's what's going to happen when the economy collapses all these theories are out the window and that will take place probably in the next two years the definitely before the twenty twen twenty. Twenty two midterms. So you think trump's going to Continue to run the party on the outside. Yeah oh man. The media will love that. They need that the on. The media's gonna make an happen you're right they need bad because they're going to be out of business if they don't have trump to kick around the best thing the best thing you could do is not help them. But because that's really the problem. I mean you can't you can't have a well. I go back and forth the pro. There's a lot of. Does i think the problems are deep rooted. I think they extended to the education system. Ballistic bill couple of seasons shit of league. There's a variety you have funny everyone of those that you played. I didn't get that's how long but let's go to the callers. Let's start with. The california libertarian charge. Apologize i thought you were finished tyler. In sacramento for taking my call him for the government providing today um give me the opportunity to what my opinion i personally consider myself an independent in california which is a pretty rare thing i think. At least i'm gonna cost the grunt libertarian and Just wants to make such the previous callers. I personally don't think it's any real surprise. What's happening today. I mean having watched a lot of the hearing And you see you constantly hear this where on whatever. But where's the evidence. And i think a lot of people out. There were paying attention to hearing that. Were going on in wash in michigan pennsylvania arizona georgia and we saw people that submitted. The affidavit was important election. You know treaty things going on and i think that those are the questions that people really want answered Ted cruz speech this morning. It kind of brought to light. I think what should have happened. And you know he said if a member of congress vote against an infection a lot of voters are going to hear from. That is that you don't think motor fought it and that's a big. That's a big deal. So in my opinion. I think that restoring election integrity is important thing Hearing this constant chicken little syndrome you know the sky is falling. The sky hasn't fallen for the last four years Well trump was in office. We've been hearing the same password for years. Somebody who doesn't have a dog in this race. You know i vote for biden. I didn't vote for trump. i'm very much always feeling disenfranchised from my feet so from from my angle. That trump logo is not going with fight. But he will go. Wake come when it comes time to it and You know there. There was a previous tweet. That invoking the twenty fifth encouraging my pence to invoke the twenty fifth. It's my mind that that would be the quickest way to the war. Which i really don't want to see happen and it's scary to see. How much did this. And this is sort of. Enter into this country over my short like ben. I'm only thirty three years old. Alana omar who was Was yelling impeachment. That's not helpful. That's not healthy. Here's the would not you bring that up. I do have their play. This clip this tweets from c. span. And they're reading tweets and this is where you get the twenty fifth amendment and omar the national association of manufacturers. Just ask mike pence to quote seriously considering consider invoking the twenty fifth amendment. That's the amendment calls for the removal of the president. If he is incapacitated this is from chad pergram foxy tweets the democratic minnesota representative ilhan omar preparing articles of impeachment for trump. And then lisa murkowski. Senator from alaska with this tweet saying that. The dangerous destructive activity at the capitol is continuing to unfold. I along with other members of the senate are secure but the situation is clearly not safe. It is truly mob rule mob rule riot insurrection. Oh yeah now. What doesn't good notice at least by anyone but me is. Why is the national association of manufacturers of all things the one the the the organization that pretty much took this country whose naina and they're they're coming out with this kind of thing. Why don't they just shut up. What's the national social manufacturers got to do with any of this that they should be advocating. That pants invoked the twenty fifth amendment. What what is what is the. I mean maybe the person can say that. But why is the organization as a whole saying this. If i was a manufacturing i was a member of this organization. I'd be very strict by this. Hold on what's the name of this association. National association of manufacturers in anger huge. This is not a slouch organization. Well could it possibly be the day russia. You wouldn't let me get it out but yeah it seems like it must be china china. It must be china this trauma. I see these guys. Yeah i find it very very annoying. Okay back to the back to the clips. This isn't a poor. I got maratha here. But i think it's martha. i think. there's poor martha martha martin kissing me. Florida martha what is thank you as you watch this. What are you thinking. Did more than a symptom of what what's going on for years. Put second cheated out of good schools. Good job factory and other jobs lockdown take into other countries and corporations still getting beat tax breaks and that's for those who are educated. How many people are in different. Who laughed when others talk to them. About voting voting needs to be made into a law where we have to do it as an obligation like they do in australia. We pay taxes no argument we have to go to jury. Duty no argument. We have to vote. We have to register and vote in every election. No argument there is nothing more than a result of this place that between our elite and privileged government and the people who have been cheated for more than forty years before getting poor. The rich are getting richer. Who is going to step up. We'd need to step up and vote catch the president. Okay martha heartfelt. Yeah well it's back but but it's true. The people you saw there. The people who voted for trump majority is really down. Yeah i mean really. That was the idea. Shame that ashamed that they couldn't get their act together. Now i got to go to the last one is the best But this is a terrorist. Which isn't bad and clifton park new york john. Your thoughts I am stunned. I never thought that. I could see this kind of thing happen. Ever in this country. And in my lifetime. I i don't hold a lot of hope for whatever statement it's been taped by By mr trump. Because i truly believe that what he wants to do and what he wanted to do when he sent when he quotes suggested that people take a walk down pennsylvania avenue and wouldn't break into the capital Is ever said actually watch the rice. The rights dot burned out it when the vice president has to be the ones that say people need to leave and only do it by twitter while the president just sits and watch television the the level of disgust that i feel that is usually pretty high for this administration but we've surpassed that today It is beyond compare. i'm. I'm praying that there are no fatalities another one person who's been shot And is in serious condition. Hopefully that's the last person that's going to be hurt But it looks like the protesters are going to know. They're not they're not protesters they're they're they're terrorists. Yeah there we are yes. They are the instigators. Probably were terrorists all right now. That's that's a guy reflects a classical arab joke kind of thing period. He's just been millionaire. Those characters out there but now we get to listen to zumur. Zumur is beside herself. She is she reminds me of of someone's relative. She is a she she's well educated. Obviously oversocialized things that we've talked about oversocialized under under performed and a lot of cliches in here. She's saying what she's read or what the media has told her the media's really the basis of this in light of the education system and she can't take it and she's she's not well equipped. The education system has not equipped her. I can't imagine what this would be in world war two if they were if there were many of them. You are this. you're so right. They are not equipped underinformed oversocialized and not equipped not equipped and you can hear it. Inner voice and she is not just afraid of what happened in washington as if she was there. I mean people that have been zone zone in seattle. Negative a little freaked out. I'd seems to be more freaked out about that. But she is afraid of the world and here. She goes in greensburg pennsylvania. Katie go ahead tied. Thank you so much for taking my call on. I just wanted to say like his rally today. it wasn't for anything else. Then i think to generate fear and fears biggest strength It can turn into like it. Evolve motion to anger rebellion and violence and the people in that crowd knew that the cows going on they knew time was owning out. Of course emotions are gonna run high. And he took advantage of that. It's so sad to see that this guy is getting more power or a following by taking away from the american people. The people that he was sworn to protect. I think citizens just need to put their faith back into humanity not him. This man literally put violence on peaceful protesters for bible photo opportunity and then was slammed by the church. Wake nothing he does make sense at all and then his video response right after the violence right at the beginning. He's perpetuating but this is a regular action and i mean like he just caught on recording. I think we're both in georgia. And he's going to be there saying they're fighting the good fight. He was reported asking for votes. I'm just like beyond herbs. I hope everyone is safe on both sides. I just hope everyone stay safe. I hope it's like awful awful display of patriotism and that's not what it is like. They not with air quotes and sarcasm. It's not patriotism. I hope that his catalysts for like people just like really try to get some real change. Because it's heartbreaking. That pisses me reality. But mayor costs four not like the catholic speaking on the hill. I want to say that it's just like i. I'm in my early twenties and my knowing that this is kind of like what i had to deal with the rest of my life much. It's really kinda deal with what people like. Remember what things are like that harold in the good old days like kind of like really really really shocking can't believe it's his point of like violence like katie in pennsylvania. I wonder if you called in During the blm protests the key there is and this is something i recognized. This is what i'll have to deal with. This is the world you've given me. This is this is this. I did everything right. I did all the things right. I went to school and now this is what i have to deal with. It's reverse of what it used to be. I mean we would say when. I was a kid neo. We had to walk five miles for the snow. Right true. so it's it's disillusionment which think large part of it is also kind of if you look at instagram all day. And then you look at yourself in the mirror like oh this is this is no good. Yeah this is a point you. This is actually your point that you've made since gay three of the show. Which is the unrealistic aspirations. Because of the fake news of everyone's life that is projected and it has an adverse effect on most people when they even know they will sometimes. I've watched a lot of these people on these instagram and elsewhere. They'll discuss it. They'll say well. Everyone looks at having a great time but me and all i was having a great time but me and then they kind of know it's phony but for some reason it's still affects them adversely and it you end up with this dis- dis- dis-. I don't know how to even describe this poor girl but she is a quivering pile of jelly freaked out vibing her nails right up to her knuckles. You could just see that. And holding her top of her dress really tight and she's a mess. She's a mess. Yeah i have. I have identified this as well. And and the bad part and you're it truly has to come down to the educational system because that's where a lot of these ideas certainly in college but i think more increasingly in in high school. This is not unique. The united states that i'm hearing the same from the netherlands of hearing the same from the uk If i think we'll probably talk about this later on but just just to give you an idea of how strong the programming is and how in control certain people are of of true institutions. You've probably heard it if you didn't you've heard about it The daily prayer that opens up congress and this is the guest chaplain emanuel cleaver at the at the end of his opening prayer for the day may the more lift up the light of his countenance upon us and give us peace peace in our families. Peace across this land and there are lord peace even in this chamber now and evermore. We asked the name of the monotheistic god rama and got known by many names by many different fates man and woman so now to be politically correct we take the word amen. S some illogical reason. We add a woman to it. Why again. i'm going to have to take it because that is worth it. That's a man and a woman that means that's where we're going man and of course amen. It means so be it that is made so it doesn't meet a man of course not but but that is in this if you look. Everything's black men's fault on twitter. Blamed black men and black women have control now of a large or are being used as control for large swaths of the population. But when it gets to that i was. I mean i'm not insulted but i'm shocked like what is going on. I almost expected people to applaud. Very good oh yes. The pope should be saying it. Let's if the pope does it. I man i wanna on show. It is it. Something happened yesterday. Which i'm surprised. They didn't get a lot of coverage and that it wasn't Did measures weren't taken or maybe they were. This was Interesting report the chilling threat obtained exclusively by. Cbs news was heard by multiple air traffic controllers on monday afternoon. In new york win sources still. Cbs news the pentagon and other agencies brief today about the digitize voice recording and believe it was designed to suggest hitting the capital on the same day. Congress is set to count the electoral college results. Recording refers to qassem soleimani the iranian general killed in a us drone strike ordered by president trump came on the one year anniversary of his death. I had you heard about that. No china like jeff for gays was definitely the guy and you know. It's a serious report when they bring jeff out so you know what is the real deal. I haven't read up on any pilot forms about that but this kind of disturbing. Don't worry about it. Nothing's going to happen. Just let run come on down coup. Let me see to advancing else before we. I think we should meet what else you got before we go to. I think we should do. Have steve's galasie coming to the beginning of the debate about these votes lisa. The republicans came out and he said a commentary. That was pretty. Good is the pro argument. But dan and i have a lot of it on here in stills and get to the point then excuse me the democrats counter with of all people zoe lofgren and she comes out and i. I didn't like anything she had to say. And then she brings up a little interesting point. Nobody talks about which was that law that was passed and Eight hundred eighty eight. That prevented all this from going. The way that all these knowledge officers all these people said and it was a law designed to keep from getting out of hand and now it has to be obviously modified some more but i never even heard about this in any of the news. Is this a national. This is not the count act. Yes something like that. We've discussed briefly while we've discussed it. But the news media never mentioned so and they just wanted to. I'd i'm kind of in agreement with guy toll off. Lisa desjardins dan. This is the media's fault. They didn't give us good. Didn't give us good background on any of this stuff. They just were rail from the us flaming on the media. I am blaming it on the media. And i think the media should be blamed. It done a piss poor job of what they're supposed to do and what they're getting paid to do. It's almost as though they're being told what do by somebody else. It's just now. i'm who could that be. I just find it to be a just a horrible. The we talked about the media. We're talking about mainly cnn nbc abc. Cbs fought he pbs. New york times and the washington post. That's it that's really is the media. They control that group. Hold on you. Have to add amy goodman in there. Otherwise done count. Yeah he doesn't. Belong refused a stooge. Yes he is. She just quotes the same washington post. Everybody else doesn't and i'm reminded of the time. That jaipur nelly discusses cases joke it cut during the era of high. You know people that were about tech and made money and for now. Tell me says you know you know john. He's a funny voice. It was if we put you me me you me him cornell and bought five other journalists that were the top of the game and we just decided to promote something like hotcakes. Easy to control the thoughts of everyone could use the same. You start hearing the same thing over and over this drumbeat. And that's what the media's down with the same group. Abc cbs nbc. Pbs new york. Times cnn and fox and fox now and you slipped That didn't help so so public at large was screwed over by the media was they were told what to think was interesting newsmax. Watch them as well. They were so inexperience. Today were just shocked. Our yeah total amateur hour amateur hour. In one america news amateur hour newsmax amateur. Are all these this tschetter all the rest of them fish amateur. They don't know what they're doing. There's only festers in the world. It can produce news cheddar man. Yeah you wanna play. Zoe lofgren or not. I mean i don't. I don't know what else there is to discuss really boring. I can play. You knew about the thing. She did a good job. She presented it and then of course they do. Have one of the thing. Which is mitch. Mitch went off on the whole thing. People keep saying oh mitch. A big asshole. Mitch was not. He did a very good presentation. he wasn't like romney. Romney isn't astle missed it his job and by the way never thought about this because you. He's he's kinda mumber but mitch has various sonorous voice. It's just got some quality to it. That is i don't know what it is. Listening to. his overall world view is maybe a little bit skewed by his in laws. It's a possibility. But i'm just saying that. He presented well. And i think any any shut it down it. Mitch shut this whole thing down. And that was the end of that was expected. Listen to him just to begin his this only the opening he went on for another five matt debating. Step that has never been taken in american history whether congress should overrule the voters and overturn presidential election. Absurd thirty six years in the senate. This'll be the most important vote i've ever. President trump claims. The election was stolen the assertions range from specific local allegations to constitutional arguments to sweeping conspiracy theories. I supported the president's right to use the legal system does of lawsuits. Perceive hearings courtrooms all across our country but over and over the courts rejected. These claims including all star judges and the president himself has nominated every election. We know feature some illegality and irregularity and of course that's unacceptable. I support strong. State led voting reforms. Bizarre pandemic procedures must not become the norm but my colleagues nothing before us cruise illegality anywhere near the massive scale the massive scale that would've kicked the entire election nor can public doubt alone justify a radical break when the doubt itself was incited without any evidence the constitution gives us here in congress a limited role. We cannot simply declare ourselves a national board of elections on steroids. They've all got to go. Anyone who's old now has to go. I also don't want trump back when he seventy eight. Oh not interested now. Now now now started coming. We need a great reset for our country and we need to promote some young people. And it's going to take it's not going to be two years is not going to be four years This was a once in a lifetime. I think that we saw with trump and the swamp just engulfed him and sucked him down under the undertow was too heavy. And of course he's flawed. He's he's great at firing people. He sucks at hiring people and that's probably true of of his business as well but you know in business is actually relies on his family. Yes because you can trust them. And no one else in the swamp mitch mcconnell you cannot be in congress for thirty six years and not be a part of some swamp swamp. It's all we need young people. We've got mackenzie kelly here. Who's just got on the The austin city council. I'm going to see what i can do for. People like that. Who were coming up. It has to be local. I don't want to go to crap with with with joe's build back better ended. Believe me it'll be a fight because a lot of bill back better. People live here loaded although those a couple things you when you're going to bitch about trump which i it's easy to do i would say as his huge mistake was that he first of all he became less and less his own man as time went on and by that i mean he should have. He should've went on. I got it. Within the first two years especially during the phoney baloney muehler investigation case should have pardoned both assange and snowden. I think he's right off. I think he's still gonna pardon. Assange will i hope he does. He should but he should have pardon wiser. You partying him now is size. You helped him get elected weights. It's an idiotic thing to do. He should've had pardoned right off. The bat in. Indy should have pardoned snowden because snow knows more about what's going on in the deep state to real deep state and he would have had to have helped trump out and he would have been probably put the kkk bosh on a number of things that he was out and about and if assange was out and about it would've made a huge difference but no he lets them rotten jail. The two well one of them's rotting in russia is not writing in jail but assange is rotting in. Jail doesn't do anything about it. I thought it was a stupid thing to do. It was a stupid approach. He was obviously talked out of doing it. What i what. I believe happened here. Is he played the long dangerous game. Out what zephyr just went by. Okay gentlemen we have is f- report. What is the state of the economy. John damore a nine car. Train poll now trapped. Now this was this was interesting because this was the regulars effort going through it was late is very late. Which is the way the key. Economic collapse is gonna take cash and it did not have a a male car. It was a full on. Nine cars zephyr no. It was the regular no mail car. Seven cars zephyr with two additional cars from the same family of cars. There were there a cream colored two of them. Two of them to added cars private cars one was a just a regular like a just a asleep and the other one was a dome car at the end and it was an observation car and i don't know what line they were from. By the great night there was some. I'd have to look it up but there are two private cars than i think. They're part of the same sale. So this is. Somebody was super rich. Rich super-rich two cars. They bought two cars. Put him on zephyr. There were celebrating the win of the the. The super wealthy in this country are behind biden and that was a reflection of the go right by my house latest. Gentlemen there's your officials zephyr economic report. We have good news for the. If you are worth over one hundred million dollars you're gonna be doing. Just great if all the other slums around here look at bitcoin. Little bit earlier. It hit forty thousand dollars. I can hard. Yeah but that's it's going to be great for the if you've got tons of money. It's going to be fabulous. Yeah well i mean clearly. The dollar is losing value. I mean you can say oh. Bitcoins become very valuable. Oreo become less valuable less valuable than the international market. local markets. Always you always that figure when the currency becomes more valuable less valuable it has a number of effects one. It doesn't usually affect the domestic market. Because you pay a buck fifty for a gallon of milk whether the whether the dollar's worth a lot or not it's the same amount so domestically will make a difference and people aren't traveling. So what difference does it make you not going into europe to spend your money But internationally were really makes a difference as it hurts travelers and it helps exporters because now american goods are cheaper and that's why the international market doesn't like to see the dollar go down because it makes our our goods and we are manufacturing more thanks to trump it makes our goods cheaper on the international market and it makes us more competitive so it's a good thing a bad thing. It's got all kinds of issues going on but obviously somebody's got a lot of money to be flying flying in good rolling around on his two cars clue cars. It's probably a dude. Who bought bitcoin. At five or yeah. What a couple of those. And i'm going to go pass divorced house. Hey we they need babies act train. A- all right let's take a break ladies and gentlemen. I wanna thank you for your courage. Mr john c divorce. I can say in the morning to you. It is indeed the man who put to sea in c. span john in the morning. You'll mr adam curry also in the morning. All ships at sea boots on the ground on feet in the air the water all the names at nights out there and we are looking at Oh my goodness. We are looking at twenty six thirty today. Is trolls. two thousand six hundred. Thirty trolls are all lined up. Wave at me please. These guys have been guys and gals. Your numbers can't be right. This is thursday. Check it again. A mixture yeah twenty. Six zero two was went down by one. Yeah yeah people wanna hear what we have to say so look sharp You can join this troll room which is filled with With people who Mold if you're listening you probably like them between your speakers just a bit john. I've been trying to compensate. But i think you just turn it up. I turned it down now. i don't turn it up. I haven't touched not just turned to us a little bit The troll room is can be found at no agenda stream dot com and you can hang out. 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And by the way thank you drip scott who is a flashing these images for your podcasting two point. Oh compatible app. this was the The the cockroach caviar which was a well rendered image. We had a lot of discussion about art for the last show. I and a bit actually. Yeah we had Let's see scrolling through announce. Okay well first of all You like the dog collar shithead. I- kabosh that. Now i didn't we i liked. I thought it was funny but it was nothing i was promoting. I was promoting Actually i was promoting either that caviar. The bug thing or the liquid bugs from martin. Jj 'cause i drink my bags you did like you did like that. You and i liked I liked the badge or that riley did. I think the badge was dynamite. Boches a patch that people should make it. We both like. Why didn't we choose it. We chose it because it wasn't because the caviar thing was so slick and subtle. And you didn't like this patch for show but you taibbi a great pass. The agenda shop should make totally. And i agree with that and also i do one. I liked it. I was kind of pushing. But i was not going to push it over. The caviar was darren o'neill's moutwatering mouth-watering meal worms. It was too busy for me busy. There's too much going on. And now i'm looking at this art again. I realized that we kind of or the other one that we like was p fake. The nineteen nineteenth sailing shot. But we weren't gonna use that because we'd be deep platform. Do i really sound like that. Yeah exactly like my mother. P fake was one of the ones that you said now you're gonna get platforms and you're right one. I'm looking at now. Which i've looked at after the show and i realized it was something we kinda miss the point of. Why did because i would. Kind of at least mentioned was kim cheese. Divorced career versus devora take jab debts a mockery of a boxing poster that nita one of his caught as as do neither one of us caught the humor of that. I'm looking for. Which one was this kim. She's right above the meal. Worms right now. Oh oh homa. she says. Curry versus devoid. take jabeen. Did that was the joke. Take the jabs on do doesn't help obscure it doesn't help if we really have to think about it. You know you the ones that work to best meet the ones that get you the immediate week and had many of those recently but I i personally. I like the dry gin deodorant. I thought that was kinda cool. You've mentioned that. I had found not interesting or anything. Didn't care much for it. Well in general. I look at this art and go holy crap. What a great bunch of artists. We have is really. It's spectacular. what you're doing. And i hope that no agenda shop can Can work with some of you. I don't know how they we don't know anything about them really Daddy no is good. Donation shows up. And it's fun is all good But there's some dynamite stuff here dynamite. And i will remind re remind the artists that if you put a covert virus image on your art as the mid ulster tsn. You is just gets rejected. Immediately for instance and we did talk about this. The gates milk corona virus. We asked which was not bad. I i like funny but it broke the rule too rules had a crappy one of a p ahead of pace it on bill gates. Which typically i don't like. But he's they're milking corona virus spike protein into a bucket. That's dollars High-concept honorary mentioned. I would say honoree as i agree on her mentioned. Well thank you all very much artists and we look forward to Excoriating u a again on sunday show and highlighting whoever takes the cake onto well-done. Beautiful really appreciated. I will mention something about taunton nails piece because we did discuss it compared to mark. Jj's and some other pieces. It's the fact that she used. She used advert used the right font for the caviar on the caviar had cockroach on their coupons. But i'm talking about the no agenda font to use that font which is a fine. It's not very fine onto the very fine. It just indicates a puts the moment of the caviar box into high seriousness. I made as though this is really a product. I just found this art to be a stunning piece of work. That reflected more the taste of the artist Natural tasted worked out quite nicely. There is no other podcast. In the known universe that hazardous does not exist. And thank you for us. Well thank you sir. Paul mature for for diligently keeping the generator running for one hundred years moving. It from drew paul to whatever the heck it is now ruby on rails and all the artists. And i know you guys get a kick out of doing it But it's it really helps the show at no agenda show dot com or dot net on your mobile phone and just take a look at how beautiful that artwork looks at his scrolls by you. You think you're looking at an art gallery. Not a not. A listing of podcast. That's part of what makes us the best podcast in the universe It is part of our value for value model. The reason we're still here after all these years because we don't take any corporate money it's just impossible. You cannot do that. you their self censoring. Which makes you suck or you're being told what you can and can't say or maybe you have to say stuff. We decided thirteen more than thirteen years ago. We weren't gonna do that. And we asked to start this experiment where we all worked together sharing our time our talent and our treasurer and we love thanking our executive associate executive producers for episode thirteen hundred and ten and they They brought the The treasurer for us. I'm going to thank them right now. Yeah i still find it hard to believe. There's that many people the chat room Yes we do. We have a little top heavy. But it's fine with us a starting with a damon marie in rock texas one. Two three four five six is actually a two part note This is We got two checks from the same in the same envelope. Different two different companies. And i will right. I'm going to actually read the whole note. I'm gonna read. I'm going to start with the second note. Which is Wilco house buyers dot com deve l. c. o. house buyers dot com in round rock texas. And this is a thousand dollars and there's also a check for one two three four five six from the say in the same envelope holy crap to that from the same same producer. Yeah holy crap. I'm only one note. Came through and i'm going to read them back backwards. Order the thousand because it starts with a thousand dollar note and it's on one sheet. I can prove it's one sheet. 'cause we can do that. That's true. I bid you in the morning in order to write this off as an advertising expense please mention wilco. House buyers dot com. Where you go if you need to sell a beatdown house is a mutual friend of ours. Self be done out if you need to sell beatdown house for cash in the austin metro area. Who we know that. Sell the cells. Be down houses skis. Now as you newscaster oh any roads. Any roads is anyway. He's said introduce that any roads. Any roads please credit this donation to my boy angel. Okay this has to be greek credited eligible. I got i got you covered a hitting me in the mouth back in june i was going to give nine hundred and fifty dollars and let him donate the remaining fifty to become a night but low debt. Crazy bastard wouldn't get off his asked to do it. I'll get him to finish. Get him to the finish line. Because the interested because the introduction to know agendas worth it okay from him. Please call him. I don't know if he's on the list. But you can check sir angel of the heights that queer night name he can donate and change the tidal. Yes sir angel of the heights yes. He's on the list for sure. Please d- do shem bend deduce and play cuomo. Some noisy made in foul weeds two times by the way. Espn tells me. I gotta. I gotta put up a new sign up. Page gives her angel garza and jello shots at the roundtable. Breakfast of champions. Powell is okay and then we go back to the second note from david. Marie me again. This time with another company check and this one's for me appreciation doesn't adequately communicate my gratitude. For what you do. The information is intriguing. The insight often eye opening and the humor a fundamental element to the show. Many thanks boys gotta say. I'm really enjoying the heightened level of contention between mom and dad again job that named the tension is compelling the friction like polyester rubbing between my thighs while running a nasty. You get a shock. The slow tearing away of fresh leaves leaves me catch. A nation leaves me cat in catch a nation. Perhaps too graphic adam. I'm interested in getting my pilot's license any tips. John would you rather be a carpetbagger or scalise bag. Lastly we're building a small office building in downtown red rock and with the uncertainty in the office sector. I'm looking at creative ideas to get the space. Least what are your thoughts about creating a podcast studio that can be rented out by content creators. he's straight sounds like an exit strategy. No give it to me. That's no stupid. no don't do it. I know people have done it. It didn't work out an austin. Yeah yes well. It's not about the studio. It's about your fabulous content. I wanted to hear a deduce me. Poor for ben deed do okay. Now i gotta jingle request another one from the early days instant. Tonight's or corn dog of cornucopia is already plenty at the round table for me and then we still have to play the Mo- i have that and regarding pilot's license. Yes shoot me an email and i'll i'll tell you who you can talk to here in austin. Just gotta go start getting that cessna one fifty two baby here car is. You've gotten karma. Thank you for this to nation to on three or four dollars and fifty cents fraud. Valley's yes you see something in the show. Frank does aguayo in jamestown rhode island one thousand roof and he has a short little note which says keep up the great work and i appreciate the time that you and adam put in. Thank you and we appreciate the snow valley use. You're sharing with the show. What a start to the new year. Thank you thank you now. We have another note that was sent in by john pacifist. Who's been involved with. He's the one who he's been in the void a couple of times in lutts florida's five hundred dollars happy. New year's of finally reaching my first night end beyond. I think he's on the list. Because i put it in big arrow distinct skins big big arrow big arrow and beyond with the enclosed five hundred donation to the best podcast in the universe. I'm also deeply grateful for for you reading an earlier. Not mine is a make good during o six which made a nice stocking stuffer for me and my son although i sometime miss johns stints on the twit network has the often outnumbered or was the lone voice of sanity. I stopped listening. Once lia's seemingly turned it all his shows into this week in woke then again to no agenda show is the only podcast that i've always download and listen to consistently year after year and indeed is the only podcast you need your media insights deconstruction consistently excellent. And you truly help keep saying amongst the m five ams persistent and obvious gas lighting. We've gone to two weeks to flatten occur to until we get a vaccine two vaccines maybe useless in the face of the new mutant strain the only thing missing. Is the cnn chiron stating breaking news. We have always been at war with east asia east europe asia could be but i think he says he station. Please give karma genoa jenin nation. As a whole if possibly like club thirty-three raven or manby call out our barring that a dealer's choice if available. I like to be known as john. Night of gasparilla in the swamp. And since i'm an old schools eighties kid. No need to add anything new to the round on perfectly content with the traditional hookers and blow for a better twenty twenty one for everyone. Here she is a raven. Now do you have a note from carlos who's next on the list. No he said he said to. You never send it to me. Well let me double check that. I don't think i even came across his name. Which is very odd. I don't know how. Carlos the did you look at the subject line donation. I do that frequently. Well he wants to deduce and we do that. Interest douched andrew. You're not like i got it got it got it just found it. I just found it. Let me see what he's got here. Okay longtime listener first-time donor he just got to -duced Things are tight but got a bit of extra dough for christmas and wanted to start the year right. I appreciate you both for outstanding job and simply request kim trails as that should have been the way to vaccinate everybody a house. Favourite and karma for the two of you just my voluntary bullshit back. Oh he's got his vaccination. Oh boy and he sent. He sent his proof of vaccination which is good. Because you you know if you're not if you don't have proof of vaccination you're not allowed to listen to the show sorry to tell you that so Yes we get To classics for you and you need a bitcoin. You've got karma did four era so it's amazing how that doesn't come through. Yeah okay well. I did get something you'd be interested in hanging on the wall. I don't know if you paying stuff on the wall that says stuff like this you license for example things like that. Yeah it is. Our official from the us government notice from the us office of copyrights and trademarks of the no agenda trademark holy. Moly what do what is our class what classification is that is that now trademarked tunnel. A thanks to our no agenda producer. Who helped us out so massively with that. Good congratulations. yeah. I'd like that. I wouldn't mind having a and then i can do a little no agenda tattoo on my arm with a with an armed with a circle. Some who all right. I like it. Let me andrew. I'll take him do this. Andrew extra noth- techtronic. Maybe three hundred thirty three thirty three. Thank you so much. Hey guys take is is my first donation and is long overdue. May i receive a deduce. Got hit in the mouth of my buddy scott this past spring. We've listened religiously ever since speaking of scott. Can you call him out as a douchebag any ways or you're killing me. I try to hit as many people as i can in the mouth but so far my friend natalie is the only person i know who continues to listen to the show. She donated for the first time a couple episodes back but never got a d. Douching oh no. Can you deduce your yes. Thank you both keeping my mcglade small. it's much appreciated. No jingles no karma and. Stay safe and thank you very much than we have. Scott salam mango from detroit michigan. Three thirty three. Thank you appreciate that value. For starters tip of the cap to j. r. e. for turning me onto the best podcast in the universe. This is my first donation. So i'd like a just like president-elect has practice the kwanza principle of coochie shula which show which you so eloquently explained means be and do therefore i plan to be no agenda night and do whatever. It is nights do while. You're doing it right now. Adam you want a dog name that can show superiority over at dog named paul anka. This dog discussion has sparked. Something is a lot of people who are very interested in my sudden. Turn in my love for dogs. He says he's got the perfect name. Chuck norris yano yet. I had the name. So dina can have Paul anka that's fine. I'm going to have doj it's going to be my dog's name the o. G. d. o. G. g. d. o. g. d. o. g. s. can be my dog's name. The dog is my dog's name dog. But i pronounce it. Doj sketches right. Don't you take the next one since you clearly have nothing to say not much. I mean i keep forgetting about these two dogs dogs. Are they going to be talked to jay. She knows about breeds k. Sudan the man in cape coral. Florida three thirty three Couple of requests mill lovey immediate. Lg y. a happy new year please accepted the donation. Three three three to start. Twenty twenty one. Normally it'd have put this on the pp note when donating via the lincoln. Your page the note is an obvious that i missed it to get a lot of people have said this for science. This pay pal says shippers is very obvious a lot of people because most people say john. Check mobile what it looks like. That's what i use. Mobile immobile gives a mobile is a mobile. You gotta you gotta mobile optimize the page four. I don't know i get nothing to do with it. I got it. I know what to do. There is a guy go. i have an idea. He continues when i last donate in october. Was to request emergency health cover for my mother-in-law sadly no amount of karma would have worked. She passed away within twenty four hours. A massive stroke to eighty seven a widow and lead a full life. She was healthy up to that day and went quickly. It was probably the way she would have wanted it to go. But we miss her We mitch remiss her Her such as life's her death certificate was not listed cove it as they cause death. I checked but that's good yeah. Shotguns cost attendance. Throw right in there to happier news. The donations honor her thirty second wedding anniversary occurring on the day until three. And i realized this show phil on our special day. I knew i had to give the only thing that would have been more. Synergetic is if it was the thirty third anniversary okay. We'll be ex-wife more than anything. We've been together since high school and married while in college. She's my mouth by sizzling. Hot spouse. linda. You're my everything love you mean it. All those jingles right we go. That's one i mean why. You've got karma acid of the candy. Avian woods and court sts ontario to fifty one fifty one becomes a i associate executive producer. Get some jingle requests. I got and bombed them kill them. Want somebody think of their children hail and well met with this donation. Three three three three three canned navien we have to make a note debt goes up upgraded moving up moving up to the exact good work upgraded Have made it to the glorious rank of baron would like to be known forthwith if the peerage committee can allow us barron krista the kawara highlands and night of the rare encounter approved. Done for my protect your at. I would like to request townships of north kawara and trent lakes in ontario county of peterborough due to them containing the beautiful highlands provincial park. Thank you for the details. I conducted a poll. This week on the no agenda social asking people what they think happened to jack ma. At the time of writing a plurality of voters forty eight percent believe he has been locked up in a chinese gulag. Another twenty three percent as i guess. By the way. I'm on kickoff. The boxer me another twenty three percent and he fled the country and is hiding out somewhere sixteen percent of respondents said he was executed by the ccp and remaining fourteen percent. Say that nothing at all. This happened to him. Who knows what the real answer is. But this was a fun experiment that i hope others thank you guys again for your time and talent and putting together this treasurer of a podcast for us. Barron chris of the car. What the highlands and night of the rare encounter. What's known as sir. Acid of the candidate avian woods of ontario court pronouncing it wrong. John court case. I don't know if he had a you know aunts. We had an invasion. How was thinking if you if you desiccated a big pilot aunts and the ground into a powder like mind on them and again you've got a big johnson of the hudson valley and kelsey to forty four twenty double appel andro double the fun. No jingles double hit of job. Commerce er- big big johnson myself and everyone who needs to begin the new year on a good note to show and community are amazing. Thank you john adamant all jobs jobs jobs jobs jobs. Eric stole sir shadowy illinois. Two hundred forty dollars. I can make him sound like canadian too. But i won't. This is that my first donation please may get a d. dishing indeed fellas. It has many people in the mouth. As i can after hearing your show for the first time in early march when my wife and i welcome their first human resource i even got called d. Bag by one of the people by hitting him out a few weeks back. But i've been waiting to donate for my fortieth birthday on january thirteenth. Can you please put me on the list. You're on the list. My brother phil hit me in the mouth after seeing ataman jr e unfortunately. My brother is still douchebag. Oh we'll take. You should be called a douchebag. But he's scrounging all the pennies for his first house so cut him some slack. Natalie stagnant devora accurate outta line. I just wanted to say thanks for all the ronan coverage has has helped me stay calm during this period of unprecedented ridiculousness over adam. I can confirm that catching their own guilt is a real thing since you brought it up. A few friends have contracted the rona all mild cases. But they all told me how upset they were with themselves and with even even mentioned they cried from guilt. Wow she could see my my facetious smile behind the mask when she told me and ask. What's so funny. And i told her about the guilt syndrome. She actually got a chuckle from it and hopefully it made her feel better about her mask. Failing anyway you know this is this is really the consequence and it makes so much sense when you see people who have just decided the thing is gonna kill you mass cup them austin. The masked up everywhere. I'm sure to same where you are. And then when they because they're so under informed when they catch it. They think that they've done something wrong. They have been so programmed these people to think that if you do everything fouled she says everything. Whatever the professional fill in the blank that you'll be safe. No it's it's worth programming. Come from sir. Adam from the mainstream media the note continues anyway. This is the truly the best podcast in the universe. Gonna get some karma for all of us in that universe. Because shit's getting wild may also have a biscuit on my birthday followed by an. It's true they always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Dot com ragging on ragging on. Laura renan camp in philadelphia. Pa to thirty eight thirty eighth note from laura that we can find. I even went back and found that donation with really mail address and there was nothing from that circle of lavender blossoms suturing. We'd always we're always being business as long as cows and business. Five to seven northville michigan and happy new year. My friends check us out on youtube. You get an idea about our farm channel name you ask. Lavender blossoms cheers circle. Thank you very much shock. New year to you happy new year. H two three four five six. It's been a while since donating but my wife a. C. t. i. c. u. nurse literally used a no agenda phrase and said i'm saving my vaccine for someone who needs it more good one. It's actually. I don't want to jump the line getting in the back for someone who needs more. That's even better. I don't want wanna jump the line scrap. The kicker issue never listens to this show. I like to call her out as a dish. Oh i'm sorry. I like to call out as douche base my two friends. They know who they are more. Gigolos karma eleven light as a loving light to use or c. h. Brian t in miami beach. Two three three three three. I read this one too long half in the morning gentlemen. I've been a constant listener. Since adam was on joe rogan show early last year which was just in time to jump the no agenda train for cove and the rest of twenty twenty s insanity. This donation is long overdue for which i humbly request a d. Duchenne you spend the immediate impetus for this contribution. This note arises. From the fact that a family friend who was a healthy fifty obstetrician here in miami beach died on january. Third two weeks after taking her two weeks after taking the pfizer vaccine will. Oh you have a deconstructed media coverage of the pandemic included recent shaming of health care workers. Who are vaccine hesitant. Yes have some stuff coming up as well as the nfl. Lactic reactions by some. Who have taken the vaccine. But i want to share with you. The fact that our friend didn't die of an afl axis. He was admitted to mount sinai hospital. Here miami beach where he worked only three days after taking the visor. Vaccine december eighteenth. He had Pitchy pj Red blood spots. I'm having a little kids. it's it's a particular i think. Oh i'm sure. I'm not pronouncing right so it's August see it's red blood spots on his feet and hands and his blood Platelets platelet. She should never have taken. This one to read was zero. He was diagnosed with acute immune. I'm gonna give out once you take it from here. John i'd just i. This is not gonna go well. That's a good one. It was diagnosed with acute immune thrombosis site. Oh panic preparer. Corpora nice will die teepee when you go. It caused you. Could've skipped instead it pam on what caused by the cova vaccine and admitted to the icu. Team of experts tried to raise his platelet count for two weeks to no avail to weeks before two weeks before a last resort surgery. He died in minutes from a hemorrhagic. Stroke oh my god. I have sent this information in a separate email to john's email address including the facebook post. When we are friends wife describes what happened. She stay she waits. Wants this information out there. so i'm sharing it. It'd probably be banned from facebook here with the citizens get one nation. I'm not a medical expert. Friend was pro vaccine. And i'm not interested in spreading propaganda fearmongering. These things happen. Perhaps this was an isolated incident. Let's hope so. But this information is real and useful to anyone they will have served. Its purpose. I doubt it will be covered by him five. Let me think I think you're right. I request a heaping dose of karma for folks negatively affected by the virus. The lockdowns vaccine for our frontline medical workers. I'll saved jingles for another time. Keep up the great work. Brian in miami beach club throw in a goat farmer for everybody. You've got read this one. I've been a listener for a while. This is Dame caroline of east hatchet ranch twenty two twenty two from pueblo colorado. Yes she is. I've thanks for confirming. Yes she is. I've been listening for a while. I became a dame during your tenth anniversary show Did it hurt. I've been donating on a payment plan. Thank you have had a few extra donations. As well i've made it to bad baronet us. Whoa i would like to be named caroline baronet this hatchet ranch no jingles no karma but i would like to ask the mentions. Would you kindly mentioned my son. Isaac s- website firearms training central dot com listeners. Can locate great. Firearm instruction their area and class schedules. My older son joshua was turning forty. Two on january ninth piece put on the birthday list. He's on it joshua. Isaac in the mount years ago and isaac turned and hit me in the mouth in two thousand sixteen. A family that listens to know agenda together likes each other a lot and gets along great and finally three. My smoking hot husband is turning seventy four on january twelfth. Please put him on. The birthday list does done. Thank you for all your hard work show after show bringing us the best deconstruction in the universe blessings of health and happiness for both of you and for all the no agenda nation caroline chase baronet of hatchet ranch in pueblo. Colorado obviously You smoke not husband. Married a much younger woman. Good for him. Gan do this or do this. Dan's duties in avon ohio. Two hundred ten dollars. rapid For my friends for matt. Frank's wife jamie frank who has had brain surgery in the past monday to remove a tumor also pronunciation name is dudas karma. Michael mutual win bernstein raleigh north carolina. One of the carolinians Two oh one. Oh two in the morning. A few four-part donation observer asian while adams patriot towards dogs is well documented. I do believe it is interesting. John's enemies to the animal kingdom goes unreported. Yes yes indeed. Let's hear ferrets. Pet pythons ans- wall street's stockbrokers that tone deaf singing grow outside his window. None of god's creatures were left unscathed and twenty twenty success while the majority of people floundered no doubt another. John despises lumbered. Twenty twenty due to swollen mic. My project mutual win dot cow. This guy's tiny luxury homes guy these disturbing money and now providing capital expand locations we are providing and selling to small towns turnkey shipping container houses. Please ed render races. This show notes no for the airbnb market to increase the town's tourism if anyone in the no agenda community can recommend a charming but neglected small town port angeles washington. That would be my wife. She's working on this. Get older that would benefit from modern tourism accommodations. Please or we don't wanna towards never mind. Please email me michael. That mutual win dot com gratitude while twenty twenty was a very challenging year. The no agenda show provided stability insight and humour that kept anxiety to a manageable level. Thank you and he wants the ansong. We already played half of that. I will tag it onto the end of show mixes just for you. And if i may say look i hadn't looked at it in a while. He started this thing about a year ago and and was telling us about a mutual win dot com. Have you seen these tiny hub. Container homes stunning. He's he's got an architecture. He's an architect or something that they're doing stunningly beautiful. I mean just like. Wow i kinda wanna live there. Very very very pretty homes sessile coffee. Sarah marta cheesy for latin and eighty and he's a good karma scream. Where do you see that right. There at the bottom jingles ansong goat. I'm sorry. I missed that you've got hermano. I'm not going to put your renderings in the show notes. Now we're not gonna do that. Sorry go and boonsboro boonsboro maryland. Please wounds berle crease. Credit my smoking hot husband. Scott macci in honor of his fiftieth birthday in january. Seventh as So done he started listening last march and hit me in the mouth over the summer. Please d- do you spend our twelve year. Old daughter has been heard singing. Jingles such as douchebag and luckily we explained to her what audio smo- foes was before she said it to her spanish teacher. How old is she a twelve year. Old okay audio's mo- fo's gino's small folks. Spain the kicker is it was rick. Perry the governor the former governor of texas. Who said it. Yeah which makes it from which makes it all that much funnier jingles. We're all gonna die. Shut up slave h true and by the way for everyone who keeps saying it's true the actual jingle is that's to mazing kind of like what is what is the what does that affect a mandela and effects. Exactly that's what. It is very much ceremony. You've got karma carry menagerie philadelphia two dollars thirty three says longtime douche. Shout out to rob from hawaii. Room owner of project prism pal talk room. No agenda chat where i reside as philly net. All right thank you. maxine waters. Grabble medicine loves gravel to maxine. Waters gallison in two hundred dollars. Twenty one cents and a bag of nuts. Nice now you actually have some labeled these selling. I guess you can go to. And they're in. He said fisting nuts. I hope you both enjoy your nuts. He writes they can pre pre-ordered at fisting nuts. Dot com or resist we munch dot com dot com. I think i got the resist. We munch dot com nuts. Adam if you have a tie if you have a start that one over adam if you have time a tight fisting nuts. Jingle an orange karma resist we munch. Maxine waters gravel. Just go for john. Tell us your peeved about the method of eating snacks on this on the airplane and is very annoying and i think it will result in fights breaking out because it just so annoying to watch bag and peanuts throws a pile of into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist round. The nuts shakes his fifth. Try to bring a nut a nut in his from his then he does it again. He's jason throws jason throws. It is annoying as hell to watch karma Michael and kelly day in fuqua save few quai- verena north carolina. A talented one spell that Writes in a this donation for a friend of mine name. David gomez in holly springs north carolina. David end my family. Hang out a lot together and he keeps telling me about these two guys who have an awesome podcast. Eventually listen to a few episodes of now. I'm hooked. David is a hardworking entrepreneurs constantly battling bureaucracies in the medical field to bring several several of his inventions to the broad surgical market. He spends most of his money developing new ideas and trying to keep his enterprise alive. I asked him the other day if he'd ever been deduce sched and he said he can never justify the expense so many other business expenses that he must deal with. I tried to send in a donation a few weeks ago. But i and i did but i am technical more on. I could not figure out how to give him the credit for the donation so the united postal services it for me. Please forgive me as i am still new enough to the show that i might not have the lingo and the process is down exactly. I think this donation grants him associate producer status and a nice the douching. Okay deducing i it. Fight got to process wrong. Let me know happy birthday david. Okay hold on a couple of things. Here i got to put david gomez. Because he's being replaced correct. Yep i'm k- there's that okay and no that's not right. David gomez It's united states. Postal service you said something weird but i can't remember what i say. It of the united states postal service united. I don't know like you're talking about. Ups of usps doesn't matter. It's unimportant david gomez. Okay so you guess it'd be the birthday list. He's always is already on the birthday list. He just now how good now. We're gonna have to have a fish note. Sure looks like it. Okay charles kneels next two hundred bucks. You only got two more left three more. This is good is long overdue. Thanks jen goat karma. That's it we could do that for you. You've got augustin. Lamothe in montreal quebec two hundred bucks rogue night. Here deduce me. Spent deduce d- fletcher china eyeso- donald trump. Don't trust china donald trump dumps. That's i hold on. Hold on hold on these. The first one deduce me. Who did that fletcher. china china. Don't trust china mayor. Donald trump trust china Donald trump dumps. Can't i can't even find the fletcher. One this is what's odd fletcher china. And i can pretend to you can do fletcher. Okay and then we need. Don't trust china as ho. Got that one and they got off discussing to make domes use eyeso- Yeah that's gonna be gross. Yeah it's it's it's who these people are john. There's nothing you can do from the montreal. Canadian vivid happy to finally support to get money gang j. c. d. let me do a donation segment. Jc don't know what that means. Okay job avenue ready Yeah and three two on sorry. You said that we are ready. I'm ready go ahead china. Donald trump don't trust china. Chinese asked how wrong order. I'm sorry we have to do it again. I screwed up. You gotta get an excellent work on the china three. Two one oh. Donald trump is as they did dumps. They call them. Dumps big massive dumped. Can you see that. Judah karma gross. Pretty much i should ban. Is you know. She alaskan lot but not least in boulder texas. We got chisholm cook and he came with two hundred bucks in the morning for somebody sandwich. I appreciate what you doing. Podcasts do what everyone does their all. The producers which i suppose now include yours truly for what we do for the world. I found no agenda through the unconventional romo pathway. After catching the first gre. From austin where adam talked about mo- facts given the nature of advanced time dove into mo- i mo and adam changed my understanding of reality all insider references in well established lord of ketchup on found no agenda to be a slow burn. But i'm now quite hopelessly addicted. I've also found no agenda. It'd be some kind of carrier mechanism for my red pill much like zinc two hydroxy. I there you go. I took my first dose of red in two thousand fifteen but it wasn't until two thousand twenty that the scales fully fell from my eyes if mo was my second follow up dose of red. No agenda was definitely that proverbial nail in the coffin. I will be working my way to knighthood in two thousand twenty one in the meantime i like to thank you specifically for inspiring hours of discussion on my podcast justified pursuit. Forgive the shameless plug. My partner cable fifteen year. Old of the radio biz and i. It sounds great guys. A fight for truth rest assured that we will we will stand alongside you guys mo and the rest of your intrepid cosmic warriors punching the sleepers interface at every opportunity once more and do the breach clearer. Dear friends chisholm in the cook. Jd justify pursuit read. I'm so sorry. I love it. Thank you very much appreciate it. You've got karma. I do have one notes. Read since this will be nineteen from jason cutting. And he says john atta been sending five dollar week checks for a while now according to my records five dollars a week by surpassed the threshold for hood. I've been listening since twenty fourteen currently at sixteen hundred eighty six and sixteen cents so he would like the title of sir salty medic night of the jesus freaks and for the roundtable pecan pie and fresh brewed iced tea. Oh we've got a. We've got a teetotaler amongst us. Okay if you'd be willing to mention my new business started up. I'm selling stickers that expressed dislike for california's moving into our home states. My website address is don't see my usa dot com. I have stickers for utah. Colorado texas idaho and wyoming more to come as business grows. Thank you very much chasing and we'll be seeing you at the roundtable later on and look forward to that. I think that's it. I think that's it. I want to thank. These folks are megan. This show possible very much. So these are executive producers are executive associated producers who have Expertly brought us to really into the in into the new year. I mean this is fantastic is so appreciated. 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I'm sure we talked about up the kalpa who was editor and i think i think also did a lot of the for cracked magazine. He's kind of famous guy. certainly wasn't famous guy for what he did crack magazine He gave me a beautiful cover and autographed it and sadly we got this note from his son his wife crystal. Adam just want to say thank you for the del rey meet up last february. My wife crystal night meet up. My father came with us. He was recently hospitalized for blood infection and we came to find out he actually had staged for bladder cancer today. We had to make difficult decision to not resuscitate. I truly believe that that meet up was one of the happiest moments for him in the past year. Just wanna thank you for speaking so highly of him on the show of mental lot form. And thank you for your courage. Yeah that's not nice. Funky that you've got karma we gotta go man but like that sucks who other start off to cova coverage i have two introductory clips could okay as usual. Of course we all hell's breaking loose. We're all dying air just california. I can't believe you're even speaking to me. Must be spitting a prayer a hamster run into the house. Covert highest democracy. Now the us recorded. It's highly day. His highest daily pandemic death toll. Tuesday would is going on with the echo. This is the way it should be presented hub. Sorry i didn't realize recorded. It's highly a his highest daily pandemic death toll tuesday as three thousand seven hundred. Seventy five people succumb to covid. Nineteen hospitalizations also reached a new high while the number of confirmed cova cases. Top twenty one million states are calling and national guard members training additional volunteers as part of efforts to speed up the rate of vaccinations. This is how her shows. We also have the uk report if you want. Get to mine as well because i have a couple of uk things. I think are relevant so it was listened to that seriously. This echo was on during her entire show. Well i may have added. I don't hang britain ramping up. Their vaccine drive is new estimates. Show as many as one in fifty people living in the uk of covid nineteen with that number reaching thirty in london. Britain's now it's third lockdown in an effort to stem the rapid spread of the new corona virus variant. Okay so i have a couple of uk clips just to let everybody know what's coming down. It's happening there. It'll soon happen everywhere. In europe already taking place and i fully expect this to happen here Once the biden crime family gets in. This is a and. I have read this myself but i i kinda liked it. We had a youtuber Who's doing this for us. This is the anomaly. Guy on youtube read out of uk headlines regarding hospitalizations from two thousand twelve through two thousand nineteen remember. The national health is risk. It's what we have to lock down. Because of this hospitals full to bursting as bed shortage hits danger level. Two thousand thirteen hospital scrambled to prevent crisis in. Nhs's toughest winter two thousand fourteen more patients overstretched. Doctors is the nhl facing a winter crisis. Two thousand fifteen hospital bed. Occupancy rates hit record high risking care two thousand sixteen hospitals in england told the put operations on hold to free up beds two thousand seventeen. Any bosses sound alarm over hospitals already running at ninety nine percent capacity two thousand eighteen inches intensive care unit sending patients elsewhere due to lack of beds. Two thousand and nine thousand nine hospital beds at record low in england as an h. s. struggles with demand. So it's not really something new it's being presented in a different way a little bit of echo and it'll scare you bow. Joe came out. Boris johnson to deliver the sad news. Everybody is not good this variant that. We have which i am now. Quite convinced is a term used. So that you'll think the vaccine will work on it versus a new strain. Which every movie you've seen tells you that you need a different vaccine. So they're keeping it very for now but because of this variant. Yeah you're going to stay home. The whole united kingdom is being engaged in a great national effort to fight coded. And there's no doubt that. In fighting the variant of the virus our collective efforts working would have continued to work but we now have a new variant of the virus knits being both frustrating and alarming to see the speed with which the new variant is britain. Scientists have confirmed these new variant is between fifty and seventy percent more transmissible. That means you're much much more likely to catch the virus a deposit on as i speak to you tonight. Our hospitals around the more pressure from the any time since the start of the pandemic in england alone the number of covid patients in loses increased by nearly a third last week tumors twenty seven thousand and that number is forty percent higher from the first peak in april on the twenty nine th of december more than eighty thousand people tested positive for covid across the uk. The new record the number of deaths by twenty percent over the last week. and we'll sadly rise furthered. My thoughts are with all those who've lost loved ones. So that's exactly a minute and twenty seconds of telling you that you screwed new variant is very. Oh it's is so transmissible not gonna kill you. But it's very transmissible and i'm sorry gotta stay. Let's get to it. We've most of the country already under extreme measures. It's clear it's time to screw you some all that we need to do more together. We need to do more together by staying apart during this new variant under control. Wow are vaccines a road. In england we was going to a national lockdown which tough enough to contain this berend that means the government is once again instructing you to stay at home you may only leave home for limited reasons permitted in more such as too short for essentials work if you absolutely cannot work from home to exercise to seek medical assistance such as getting test to escape domestic abuse. Wow thanks thanks can escape domestic abuse this is. I believe this is going to be very very bad for Our friends in the united kingdom. They are locked down tight and from although there's no end date sight From this last clip of bo joe. I think it's going to be through february today. The kingdom's chief medical offices have advised that the country should move to alert level. Fine meeting that if action is not taken. Nhs capacity maybe overwhelmed within twenty one days. It's really interesting. How all those other headlines. It was happening at that. Moment was overwhelmed. We got to ship people out we can x. It can't accept new patients and here it could happen within twenty one days three weeks. Of course there's one huge difference compared to last year. When i rolling out the biggest vaccination program in our history so far we in the uk vaccinated more people than in the rest of europe combined with the arrival. Today of the uk's own offered astrazeneca vaccine the piece. The vaccination is accelerating. I could share with you tonight. Nhtsa is really expectations for the vaccination program in the coming weeks by the middle of february. If things go well. I'm be the fair window. Sales we expect to offer. The first vaccine does to everyone in the four top priority groups identified by the joint committee on investigation in the united nation that means vaccinating all residents in care home for older adults and their cares everyone. Over the age of seventy all frontline health and social care workers everyone who is clinically extremely vulnerable. If we succeed in vaccinating all those groups we will have remove. You removed huge numbers of people from the path of the virus but of course that will eventually enable us to lift many of the restrictions. We've enjoyed for so long. Sounds to me like it'll be even longer than february march april. He's not even saying flatten the curve. Just sorry locked down. Wait the vaccines common will start getting that in february for people. So after that's done we can lift the restrictions and spreading this boulevard. now well so are the candle navien. Here's the prime minister. Long had some strong. This travel travel measures in the world. Since march these rules have helped save lives as new strains of covid nineteen emerge as cases skyrocket in countless countries. Since the time to double down. I mean what do you mean. Countless countries only so many countries you can count them as cases skyrock countless countries. This is the time to double down on keeping you and your family at home safe. Starting thursday to be eligible to return to canada. Travelers must have negative covid nineteen tests before boarding their flight. This is an addition to the standing mandatory. Two week corentin once people arrive. Officials are reviewing travelers 'isolation plans and if the plan is not up to par the travelers will have to quarantine in a federal facility. Holiyay yeah a federal facility. Sounds like and the nastiness has spread to the netherlands. My lovely daughter now under lockdown until january nineteenth already were hearing. That's going to last longer than just all because of the new variant and. Here's the dutch prime minister ruta. And he's going to tell you fultz. The good news is about van v. Come back from this all going to be okay. People especially now in this time of corona virus. It certainly a major crisis but it's also offers us a unique opportunity. Now it's time to make the change because we need to build a climate resilient world to increase parity and improve public health but also to build back better foster green and inclusive recovery and to achieve progress towards the twenty thirteen sustainable development. I can help. We can seize momentum. I hope we can take new stench to prepare the world better for the effects of climate change and i hope that the homeland climate adaptation summit in january which the netherlands is hosting will boost those efforts. This is going to be a bonanza. Everybody's going to make so much money. Who's in government and has all these on decides bill back with their life beyond can't wait to see our future. People i think is these. You know that paper that came out. That says there's no evidence whatsoever has been studied millions of people that People that don't show any symptoms and don't have the the non what what's the term Now non symptomatic as they don't pass the disease around so there's no reason for these lockdowns at all. Oh has scam bo. You clearly have not been watching dr cat. Dr cat from team halo from the world health organization united nations. She is the the The the informed she's epidemiologists. He tells you what's going on the tiktok sponsored by china back seen. Can i still spread kovin. This is a big question. So let's talk about it for most respiratory diseases knows is the portal of entry and this nasal fairing in the back of our nose where like some multiply and. That's why the pcr tests has that q tip way up your nose. So the cosa in your noses were the first antibody response usually happen. The vaccine on the other hand is deep in your muscle and that is more of a body. Systemic antibody that is creating so how much of that is mobilized up to the nasal mucosal. We aren't sure yet. We know it's enough to prevent matic cova and severe kovin but whether your body can control it faster or whether the virus can replicate faster than you can spread it. We still don't know in other words. Shut up stay home. I do have some piece of information. I i was Duped the note that i got from the On the previous show from the producer. Phd and was going to sue the cdc and that turned out to be a hoax. One american news had some guy with the same story but they had his quite sad actually. They had his head blocked out like. Oh yeah when. American is gonna ask you a question about this hoax. Did you block the guy who sent it to you. Forever like i. Would you know now. Based on that of number of producers did looking within the fda and the cdc to see if there was any evidence of an isolated virus that had been used for For knowing what it is. And here's what he came up against though. He's where he is what he found out. This is from page. Forty of the cdc twenty nineteen novel coronavirus. Realtime rt pcr diagnostic panel document. So this is what was used to create the pcr tests from page forty since no quantified virus isolates of the two thousand nineteen novel corona virus. Were available for the cdc. At this time the test was developed and this study was conducted assays designed for detection of the thousand nineteen novel coronavirus. Arna were tested with characterized stocks of in-vitro transcribed length aren a of known tighter spiked into a diluted consisting of suspension of human a five four nine cells and viral transport medium to minimum clinical specimen. Does that sound good to you. Well i don't think the cdc's really the operation keeps these things. I would like to go to They might have it for june dietrich. Johnson johnson it supposedly has a real vaccine and they have to base it on something. They must have a sample. I guess russia russia's got a sample so we have the verse the vaccine Damage system if you're hurt by a vaccine you can. There is a path within the united states government to try and get some restitutions called bears. Va e r s. The latest data. We have it for you here. This is adverse reactions comedy adverse reactions. Do you think there have so far in the usa from the covid. Nineteen vaccines question for me. A question for you. Yeah just guess how may already okay. We've had maybe a million two million shots. Yeah in arms. So how many adverse reactions none wait. No we have at least one one. Forty thousand four hundred thirty three. This includes one hundred and twenty thirty three four forty thousand four hundred and thirty three. This includes three one hundred and twenty seven deaths seven hundred and sixty nine cases of severe about abdominal pain. Fourteen hundred ten cases of amnesia dizziness disorientation vertigo confusion and delirium along with fifteen hundred and thirty one cases of fatigue. That sounds about right along with eleven hundred seventeen cases of herpes zoster with herpes zoster. Watch what's herpes zoster. E can't get herpes zoster from shot. One thousand one hundred seventeen cases of herpes zoster. That's a contamination. Then seven hundred and seventeen cases of headache and head injury from falls my god along with five hundred twenty one cases of influenza like illness that makes sense along with fifty seven cases of blindness and deafness one hundred seventy five cases of is swelling. I discharge i. Pain is a great list. Let's take a look at it in the show notes. Thanks patrick forgetting that for us. So i don't. I don't think we've seen that many types of adverse reactions from any vaccines. Certainly you don't know that. I look at this year's data quite a lot actually yeah. I can't recall. If i had ever seen something with forty thousand adverse events than i think i would have picked up. I've been looking at the virus database for years. This is a scandal. The mainstream media must be reporting on this. It can only be super painful and this was based upon some stuff that you and i were talking about. You know even questioning the vaccine itself which now just to make sure we can get enough into arms There are some countries and certainly discussion about diluting the pfizer vaccine. Not the moderna but the pfizer vaccine. So you can get sick shots out of one vial and it all should go to everybody for the first time. Don't worry about it. You second shadow come in. And the whole idea of this high-tech vaccine being deluded at the pharmacy or inoculation level. Just seems a little weird particularly because they have no problems. They got diluted some more you can get six. I don't know what they're doing. But i do know what they're diluting it with. Because one of our producers send it to us his sailing would do. Yeah so now. You had an extinct. You had an observation about your observation when we heard because it's came in after the last show he said it's possible that these guys are all these guys are such cheap ass is that there shipping us sailing. Not but they're trying to skimp on the money by making people use their own sailing to dilute it or add to it down the line because the modern one shot one vial. let light. aren't they never everyone's all my life all my life since i was a kid. It's always been one shot. One vile violent shot. I should put it now. All of a sudden. What is kind of a mixture in it. She pricks is what it is decided to go onto cheap. I think so too now. The vaccine hesitancy appears to be a real thing and particularly amongst the healthcare workers in new york. It's so bad. That governor cuomo is coming right out and issuing threats in new york. The governor is threatening hospitals with one hundred thousand dollar fine. If you don't use the allocation by the end of this week you can be fined and you won't receive further allocations. I mean okay. So you really. They don't seem to want to take it. But now you're going to be fined allocation could be given to the general public. Why not but. They're not taking the. I don't know who they're supposed to give it to. But it's just sitting there unallocated. Same in san francisco. Apparently and back to the vaccine troubled in san francisco officials. Warn if they can't give out the shots faster. The vaccines may expire before the warehouse. Don't understand what's happening in everything. Everything that we know about. This says people should be lined up happy to get it and i. I'm just not seeing it. I'm also not seeing the video. You might not be seeing. I absolutely convinced that people wanna take this shot. I'm just saying i'm not seeing it. I didn't know why they're not giving it to a. Maybe they're gilbert. I have no idea they make any sense. Maybe because their report makes no sense because there's forty eight thousand adverse reactions that people don't want to deal with but not what word must get. The word gets around. Cuomo is clear we want those vaccines in people's arms. I understand the private hospitals. I understand that everyone has a job to do. We need them to administer the vaccines faster. I wanna get needles in the arms. And i want to get that done as quickly as possible needles arms. That's not the agreed language. There's an ice so you just passed up. No i i got a couple of isos. I don't want the vaccine in a refrigerator freezer. I want it in. Somebody's arm so they're doing. He made a mistake. You can't say vaccines in people's arms correct but you can't say Needles that scares as as long as wrong. F- ouchi is out schilling as much as he can. He's on the job. The job boot show but in show to appeal to the black and brown communities and i say with any clips from it But he was brave. He went there and It's truly a time for the minority groups to step up you got to do. It does pick up. dr anthony. Fauci predicts the general public could get vaccinated within three months. We hope that by the time we get to the end of march the beginning of april that will be at that point where the priority groups have already been vaccinated. And it's what. I would call open season quite sure what he means by open season. So here's msnbc. Healthcare workers are not taking the vaccine. Healthcare workers are not the only ones getting the first vaccines in the us. People who work and live at long term care facilities across the country are also on the list but many frontline workers in hospitals and nursing homes are refusing to get immunized in riverside county california that southeast of los angeles. It's estimated that about half a frontline workers say they will not get vaccinated in ohio. About sixty percent of nursing home staff are also refusing also. According to the new york times there are ethical concerns about how nursing homes can get consent to vaccinate people who are unable to make their own medical decisions strut. Screw it vaccines arms. Which your sense of why. Some staff members are hesitating to get vaccinated. I think it's a combination of things. Know there was a big push about a month or so ago to really divulge what the possible side effects of this vaccine would be. And frankly i think we scared the hell out of people when we really didn't need to do that. Yeah exactly it's working. Well work what i'm not. I'm not buying a completely. And i'll tell you why and i'm gonna even throw one of your arguments back at ya First of all the side effects are promoted on these drugs that they sell over to the television. And all these crazy that makes people want it. Yes i know ed. And and all the fear martin e right may this is your old argument with cigarettes you to horrible things that can happen to. I'm a tough guy. So why wouldn't that affect also apply here. I think there's something else going on. You don't have the vaccines. There's something wrong with these reports. Well everyone i know. That's joe type and california. They all wanna lineup for the shot. Like do they haven't lined up. Why not there's no place to line up What are you going to line up. Exactly where did they where they haven't had their shots their vaccine in their arm yet. The needle has been plunged into their arm of the joes. They haven't gotten it yet. they want it. They both wanted. They want it badly. But i i'm remembering back in two thousand nine hundred swine flu thing. We've got everyone else freaked out. We had the same skepticism. Then as we do now and which was even more justified. If that's possible. And i took photos and put it on the blog of people at the albany library. They were giving shots shots. Today and there was a line that was looked like star. Wars just opened. I mean it was line at. I couldn't even get to the okay. But what i do not recall from that time and i haven't researched but i do not recall this. Many healthcare workers openly refusing to take it. I don't think that happened back then now. Of course it's still a different situation. We weren't locked down. But somehow okay hapless try this on for size the the whole. Just listening to cuomo. So he's threatening the hospital if you don't use your allocation you're gonna be fine. He won't get any more and you won't get any more vaccine which means you can go die. That's really what he's saying. I find horrible that he would say that. If you believe in the vaccine the guys at creep with the hostile the This is a money making moment. What if Either a they don't want to solve the problem because this is finally their chance to get more beds more money more space more power. So let's make sure keeps going. Or maybe this thing is completely a dud. Dangerous lots of people getting hurt and they're trying to slow it down and cuomo doesn't care. I agree with you though. Something is very wrong and is being blamed on the hospitals. Maybe it's hey hospitals. I'm governor cuomo. I've given a lot of money. Now you gotta show up for me you gotta do it and the weirdest the weirdest priorities. This is ontario the premiera ford. This story out of he gets a question that he doesn't want her. Those cuomo live conferences that the federal government will begin to vaccinate inmates in federal prison. Starting this week even though the national advisory committee on immunization recommends that inmate should be offered a vaccine after residents of long term care staff the elderly in healthcare workers as well as indigenous communities men have already had their backseats one. I i heard. I didn't believe it. I didn't get my team to double check that. They had the information right. Because what i understand. You're you're giving the most dangerous criminals in the entire country folksy. The these are people that are in federal prison penitentiaries again the most dangerous criminals and the entire country. How do you square this. Had you put them ahead of long term care patients. How do you put them in front of all the most vulnerable. And we're we're scraping every vaccine. We can get. What do you think that's about. You know you got baffled as you are. I have no clue what's going on range. Strange strange story. The way it's being presented like an extra in the field test. My give it to those guys. Well with forty thousand with very few shots given by the way yes a million million that we're looking at a million. Let's say I don't know something's amiss. In the pharmaceutical companies know what it is we need somebody Industry ebbs deep throat. In pharma business. We don't know what the hell's going on. They're not going to tell us something is wrong. Now cuomo's kept the he was never read in so he's acting like an idiot falls. I don't listen he has. He has a status using award to defend. So i understand what he has ami he's acting the way he does. Yeah it's very bizarre and and we're not getting the correct information but already my daughter who staunchly against this. I said dad. I'm worried i think i'll have to take it to be able to go anywhere. This is what they're talking about in holland can't find some. she's keying. Find some underground friends could writer up. Fake yes yes. Of course jon but is that really the solution moving forward. We're we're faking the government like now. Now we're now we're living in this. Your horrible yeah. I just. I'm against that. We either say no and stop this or here. The conditions but not like old kale fake it. This is not good. And then here's the here's the other thing is kind of anomaly. This a democracy now reporting no shots for a meatpackers and nebraska governor. Pete ricketts has come under fire after saying undocumented workers meat packing plants will not be eligible to receive the corona virus vaccine. You're supposed to be a legal resident of the country to be able to be working in this plan. So i do not expect it illegal. Immigrants will be the vaccine with that program workers and meet passing suffered. Some of the nation's worst outbreaks an estimated fourteen percent or more of nebraska's workers are undocumented. Okay that was like three stories in one. Well i i was put the slant on it and once once joe and kamla reopened the borders and tear down the wall as promised on day one. Will we have a caravan of people showing up to a enjoy taxi. I think we should put at the border. Hey come on. Just gonna take this shot. We'll see how ya shot. We'll see how you do when you come through. I know we're laughing but this whole thing is so messed up. We are laughing. We shouldn't yeah no we have to. We have to do. Just the only thing i don't like if it was just if which is okay. Do whatever you want. it's your own. It's your own decision whether you want to have the vaccine or not but it's been twisted and turned into the same idea that oh i got kovic so i did something wrong. Unlike any other communicable disease the most transmissible which is measles. There's no stain at home. There's no lock down. There's no mask all over the place it doesn't make sense. 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He said probably about ten people there a lot more but no agenda people who showed up for ten. Here's what's coming up on. Saturday meet up. This is where can go hang out with people. the show is completely self. Organized is what people love after months and months of being locked in lockdown. Just feel the talk to some human beings and you can do that at bozeman. Montana bringing in the new year at four o'clock bridgier brewing and christopher organizing for you the houston raging superspreader luncheon. Also on saturday. It's outdoors at rodeo goat. Brian clark organizing. I will be going to this. One one o'clock here in austin the any local five twelve post congress count keller celebration or the building back better battle planning. That's docs backyard on sunset. Valley's or scott baronet of the armies of the armory is hosting. I look forward to seeing everybody there. 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But i'm waiting for it. As a gratitude bitty just turned eighteen years old. Can if you look at some current photos of her yes she's no longer the greta cute pigtails and they are ready to move out. We have new new faces on the scene. Belotti vision and this is a perfect perfect follow up for greta. She looks like she's twelve. She is in reality also eighteen. But here's the kicker she has a sister who looks just like her and doing it together. We have double trouble way more yet yet. This is the world economic forum. They've brought these two out to the front is super much better than greta. The in fact. These girls are so multicultural. Let me see where they're from malaysian. Isabel climate change activists. Now they're not twins but men they look alike in they have Started youth topa which will host dave greta. I wrote this up in an old news. Dr years ago grant was a clone of somebody else who also aged out aids. Greta has aged out. Exactly what happened is what happens is other woman. She stayed with the thing but i think she was resentful. Greg is not gonna be happy about this. Her parents certainly won't be yeah. There goes the money go gravy. Train was the dove pretty much out. I think she's out your through now as the eighteen. i'm only eighteen. How can be through your throw. Get out so we've seen hollywood. We've oh yeah. Well it's all it's show we've seen and we've followed so many of these trends over the past Over a decade we saw from a mile away. The mac and cheese Depression slave food coming in another food that we saw coming with bugs bugs bugs and We we know the name. Well i thought it was entomology. It's you pronounce a little different. Because there is a science educator on tiktok this is where we want all of you to get your scientific news. It's hank green. And i think he says and Entomologists he doesn't quite pronounce it. But you'll know what he means about. How good this is when you see when you hear his little tiktok video here i wanna eat wanna eat bugs bugs dude he bugs bugs are good for you. They're great source of neutral. He want to eat bugs. That is fantastic. New into the fiji is what it's called science type person and it's extremely common. It's done and over. Eighty percent of countries. Something like two billion people have. Insects is a super important part of their nutrition. Do i want to eat bugs dumb. I don't wanna eat bugs. But i want to eat bugs. Great way to get protein with a lot less environmental impact. Jelena jelena bug. Because she's like it should be done more good for the world cup for you. How does he pronounce it. I couldn't get it was quick. i will say this. This guy is the new bill nye. Oh he's better than bill nye's out fees out. What do you think of this show. I so i wanna eat. Come on i got to okay i i got the gavel Is called just the gavel. No it's called gavel. You you messed me up Gavel okay here we go. No no no. No maxine waters gravel will come look you up and beat you up if we do the gatt. Try this when this this this clip from your clip. This decency decency. Just plain simple decency. I want to eat think anything. It'd be bugs man. can you don't have anything else. No it's okay. it's okay to lose. Sometimes i do have last last shoved in the show clip or to actually i got to. I'm going to skip the one clip that everyone wants to hear. What trump hates birds. I'm gonna leave that Sweet vinexpo okay. Let's start with the assange update so we can get really get us used to the fact that he's trump less this guy go or trump's is not going to be well respected and other news from the uk. The judge ruling over july julian assange extradition case has just denied him bail. This comes two days after the judge rejected a us bid for his extradition the wikileaks founder. Stay in prison while the. Us appeals this week's decision. I mean has. He actually been charged anything that he can be be for espionage. Espionage is that is that a charge indictment conviction in all three. Okay yeah i. Our system is all three right now. Here's the good and the reason. I think this is an upbeat clip. So this can be the. I think this should be the last clip nora. We're all okay. Binds biden is once bruins biden gets into the democrats. Get in control. Things are going to change. And what's gonna change is what people bitch and moan about and we have to remember what it was like. It was very mild during the obama administration because everyone was on kid gloves because he was black president but before obama in the clinton era and everything in between you had people protesting different things that are protesting now. This clip which is about the protests had already broke out at a bed. Oh biden's headquarters is now in this. Gonna you're gonna hear this for the next year demanding that he devices. I can do any of this stuff by the way. It's just not gonna do it too much of an old fart demanding that they released the student debt. Here we go hand in philadelphia. Activists held a protest outside. Joe biden's local headquarters monday to demand. He canceled student debt when he takes office. Some forty five million people in the united states now a total of about one point six trillion dollars in student loans. This is lauren. Horner organizer with the pennsylvania collective fault structure again couldn't hear everything she was saying. I'll tell you a couple ray. The student debt is racist racist. It's racist edison slaving the their minds. Well education is certainly enslaving their minds. There's no doubt about that. Whatever whatever the system is it's enslaving their minds. Well this is gonna. This is going to be a big theme for this coming year. Well good luck to all and to all a good night's a happy day everybody and we will continue to diligently find out what's going on in media land not hard to blow apart. Everything seems to be phoney but as we prepare to build back better. We need to be more vigilant than ever. Oh and don't be afraid of anything when you're afraid that's when they control you turn off. The tv was with a t h all time high dishes hgh all-time highway tides high. Yes exactly tide's coming up. Thanks to bill walsh. It jesse coin nelson and wreck. We've got three end of show. Mixes that will take you. Oh well into three and a half hours of the show. But who's counting. We love doing it. And we love to see you back here on sunday coming to you from opportunities zone thirty three in the frontier of austin texas capital the dome star state team region number six on the governmental maps in the morning. Everybody i'm adam. Curry andrew miller silicon valley. Where else sayer name ashley. Babich jesse devora we. We return on sunday. Remember us divorce dot org slash and until then Handsome answer we had an invasion. How was thinking if you if you desiccated big pilot dance and then ground into a powder like fine fine grind of black pepper. We were having dinner and aunt somehow the meal eight. These things are peppery advanced. And then you do you find the ones that aroma beck back by doing the burning trick. Torch leave them there. The leaders in your hand that's carry one of the dead and spat again hands again hands and soon but then depending on the survey that you look at up to watch off of americans are either uncertain about or hesitant or altogether unwilling to get vaccinated. So how does this. Pandemic imagined masks social distancing. I wanna say shutting down. It's worse so i would imagine saws koby to based on calculations and pure extrapolations got vaccinated today and i actually feel fine. Imagine ninety percent of the population vaccinated with saws kobe. To will the vaccine for kovin lightly the more like flu vaccine by that. I mean if you take the flu vaccine year sort of a guess about whether the vaccination really will be effective. We'll do not know that nobody really knows for sure. So i would imagine as more and more people get vaccinated. We have deaths that break records almost every day. We have two hundred thousand a day by believe more and more people would be convinced protecting community found to get up there and start talking to you know anything really about anything and i say that to face. Those guys have got an agenda. Dr anthony fauci. He's a pathological liar. Imagine imagining things top. So i would imagine how last variance got nothing. Say saying follow mandate. Just look the other way. People say star events like this mindset that up five say say say say say that split off from break break brake. Nfl i do see thing is overblown. Go and that. We don't know scott insane like this in my mind saying without a governmental. Say say say off. John upgrade great. Great great great. Thank you thank you. You thank you. Thank you just down and out about the media and the dirty dirty leaks in the world. You could have been getting out to the streets. This friend brought his new girlfriend. She's like oh. My god please off a message to the lady over there crazy stairs just baby a brake brake brake. Thanks mackerras eighth grade. Three witnesses ticket sick. They get sick. You get on audio mojo. Laura dot org slash and i want to eat.

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