Aired 3 weeks ago 3:01
Smoot J Discussed on Newsradio 950 WWJ
Newsradio 950 WWJ
From the news
Aired Last month 39:11
The Great Depression - The Crash | 1
Maginness Tuesday, October twenty ninth nineteen twenty nine you're working at your regular spot on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange, but today anything but regular the screams are so deafening that you can't even hear the trading bell. You're screaming as loud as anyone your hands stretches high in the Air New trained for a buyer to see you need to move fast. Prices are tumbling every time you hear someone make a trade prices to plunge lower even solid bets like US steel Westinghouse crumbling. You need to get out. Don't men shove jostle like grade school kids straining to be first in line shouting at the top of their lungs to there is burns much as yours you haven't slept all weekend. Traders claimer as allied chemical, stocks plummet, someone Wales like he's just been got it you see a man sitting right on the training room floor holding his head in agony the din echoes off. Off the exchanges. Stonewalls? You get ready to offer a thousand shares of RCA at way too low a discount just as you open your mouth, you're knocked to the ground as you scramble back to your feet. You see a portly trader in a gray vest, cursing at the man, he just pushed into you the traders face Rennes as yells his rolled up sleeve titans as he winds up for a punch the other traitor ducks. But you don't the last thing you see is his fist. You come to sprawled on the cool marble floor of the lobby a drumbeat of pain pounds behind your eyes blood drips from your nose onto a trading slip clutch between you're shaking fingers and for a second terror washes over you, the slip has ruined. Then you realize your worries meaningless people are rushing back and forth through the lobby kicking up hundreds of similar training slips traders have abandoned, it's all worthless. Hey, are you okay? Jack trader from the house of Morgan and some puncture took. Yeah. I have stars is. But I'll be fine. Listen, I gotta get back in there the bottom falling out, and I to get something back here can't count on Whitney to bails out. Bad as each. Stop soon. Shor short turnaround. American history tellers is sponsored by ally. You wouldn't settle for two star dentist or even a two star restaurant for that matter. So why settle for a two star Bank? We're all too familiar with low rates and some par service when you're treated like just another number and for what you've worked hard for your money. So be picky about where you put it. There is a better option out there. That's ally. Ally knows you deserve better. And their mission is to be just that with ally Bank. You'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average and live customer care. You can chat with a real person twenty four seven even on weekends and holidays. They won't surprise you with hidden fees or confuse you with fancy jargon allies team, actually cares about doing right by you and your money. So get yourself a better Bank. Go to ally dot com to find out more. That's A L L Y dot com ally. Do it right ally. Bank member FDIC. From wondering, I'm Lindsey Graham. And this is American history tellers our history your store. On our show. We'll take you to the events the times and the people that shaped America and Americans are values are struggles in our dreams. We'll put you in the shoes of everyday citizens as history was being made. And we'll show you how the events of the times affected them their families and affects you now. Over the course of about a decade, the great depression of ended American society, the claps of the stock market in October nineteen twenty nine was the first widely seen sign of the great, depression, only the onset of World War. Two would clearly markets in this gut wrenching period. Devastated lines, transform the global economy and recast the direction of our country. Hindsight shows the conditions leading to the great depression appeared well before the stock market collapsed declining factory production and plunging cotton prices were early indicators of trouble followed by a torrent of lost fortunes, Bank closures and stock crashes that left the country staggering unemployment would grow to previously. Unimaginable levels bellies would with hunger promises would be broken. Millions of people would be driven to migrate accelerating environmental disaster that would stretch across state lines. It was a decade. Unlike any other reform minded politicians would. Reshape American institutions, even as labor, unrest, racial strife, and the dark shadow of native isn't pushed back from all sides in that decade American suffered through shocking loss to a recovery that would only be completed by the onset of global conflict. But just a few years before the country was enjoying a period of unbridled enthusiasm, the nineteen twenties had roared mightily technological advances following the end of World War One had revolutionized factory lines and consumer goods by some assessments manufacturing grew by seventy percent from nineteen twenty two to twenty eight. Meanwhile, more Americans than ever could afford to buy new cars radios and kitchen appliances that was in part because the increased efficiency may these products more formidable and wages, at least in some portions of society had also risen at the same time confidence in the American economy was high these optimistic sentiments define the nineteen twenty eight presidential election. It didn't matter the Calvin Coolidge the man who presided over most. Of the roaring twenties chose not to run again. Instead in nineteen twenty eight Coolidge handed the reins to a secretary of commerce. Herbert Hoover who readily took up Coolidge as pro-business laissez faire mantle Hoover won the presidency. Handley he beat his democratic opponent New York governor out Smith by roughly eighteen percentage points in the popular vote. And thoroughly trounced him in the electoral college as well though. Other factors played into Hoover's victory. His promise to continue coolest legacy carried him into the White House pushing him further was Germanic claim he made when he accepted his party's nomination at his al-matar Stanford University. We in America today who were stated are nearer to the final triumph over poverty than ever before. In the history of any land, the then nominee also asserted that the poor house was vanishing who campaign materials echoed these bowl pronouncements, including a flyer that claimed Republican policy had led to a chicken for every pot and a car in every. Backyard. The realities, of course, were less rosy while Hoover promised heraldic, poverty manufacturing was already petering out in US demand had been high but began to shrink around the time of the election. Meanwhile, European nations couldn't make payments on huge debts. They owed US banks for money borrowed to fight the World War decade earlier, Germany defaulted on reparations at owed to Britain and France this put the European allies financial situation in even worse shape to assist the US negotiated. The amount Germany oh down then pumped private investment into Germany intern. Germany used money from this investment to pay reparations to the UK and France in theory, those countries could then pay off their debts to the US lenders. But this system relied on continued infusions of US dollars into the German, the Connie and fusions that would stop after the depression began while to man weakened and manufacturing centers and foreign borrower struggle to pay their debt. Crop. Prices plummeted. Farmers had sunk their life savings into homesteads, then they took out loans for equipment and other costs. But now the couldn't sell enough of what they grew to pay back all that. They had borrowed another recent innovation. Also, heightened the crisis. Consumer debt credit offers made living seem easy in the nineteen twenties. And at the same time, the stock market's ever dizzying heights were too much to ignore people took out mortgages on their homes and businesses to afford a piece of the action. This influx of new investors was for the most part on savvy. Their financial strategy was based on the assumption that the stock market would always keep rising the most widely used barometer of this rise in the strength of the stock market is what's known as the Dow Jones industrial average, it's not necessarily the most precise measurement of the stock market. Nor can you directly trace the strength or weakness of the economy to the Dow's performance. Nonetheless, it illustrates the relative growth or decline in value of its component company stocks. The Dow was I established in eighteen ninety six by Charles Dow, then the editor of the Wall Street Journal and the founder of the company that originally published that paper the index measures the combine stock value of thirty publicly owned companies, it's not a true average, but a price weighted total of one share of each of the thirty component stocks. The component companies that made up the Dow are generally understood to be among the strongest most stable in the country when the depression began in late nineteen twenty nine Dow components. The apples and walmarts of their day included, the Radio Corporation of America or are CA Sears Roebuck and the American sugar refining company by September third of nineteen twenty nine the Dow reach just over three hundred eighty two points that figures not significant today, even at its inflation adjusted equivalent of more than fifty five hundred dollars. Nevertheless, it was an all time record. The stock market's growth seemed unstoppable in September nineteen twenty four just five years earlier. The Dow had been worth only one hundred points in just half a decade it had multiplied three and a half times. There were certainly skeptics of the stock market. One was Roger Babson with the help of MIT. Professor, George Swain Babson developed a market index of his own based on his understanding of Newtonian physics. If every action had its equal an opposite reaction than a long period of economic growth would surely be followed by an. Equally long period of economic decline Babson developed a market forecasting newsletter after a stock market crash in nineteen oh seven he built a fortune on the claim that these Babson reports informed by the laws of gravity could predict the stock market's performance two days after the Dow's record high in September nineteen twenty nine Babson gave a speech in which he predicted that crash was coming. And when it did six weeks later Babson insisted he was proof. His theories were sound and Babson wasn't the only skeptic other simply struck more cautionary tones about investing in nineteen twenty six for example. A columnist named MS rook is road of the risks to amateur speculators who hope to profit from the rising stock market writing for colliers revise their sarcastically advised. How to make money in Wall Street, the article led with a cartoon of a frazzled hair man labeled amateur adrift in stormy waters. Above a dinghy named ignorance a massive wave labeled Wall Street crested over the boat. Threatening to drown the amateur rookies. Irs article was present warning amateurs about the dangers of margin. Speculation a force the promised huge returns for some but was for most costly charade, lured by the promise of skyrocketing. Markets. Many people who had never invested in securities were drawn to margin trading borrowing money to make bigger stock purchase than he or she could actually afford and banks and investment firms were all too eager to cater to these new borrowers. Unsophisticated investors were hopeful the stock market kept climbing. So they reasoned they be able to pay lenders back with the gains and still reprocess. And it wasn't just consumers who were barring too much traditional investors worked too. But what would they do if there? Stock's dropped were suddenly worth less than what they had borrowed. And what happened to lenders when borrowers couldn't pay back their loans? What happened when the loans themselves worthless? America was about to find out. It's the evening shift at the diner you own on east main street Spartans Berg, South Carolina. You've just come back from your siesta. Even though your heritage is Greek you like to use the Spanish worth the long after noon breaks, you take each day you love this shift when you're back in the restaurant don't have to rush through breakfast waters. You can sit and talk with the customers in the evening lately that talks all about the stock market. One of your regulars Henry has been peppering. You stock tips almond George here. What happened on Wall Street today? What? Now, Henry it went crazy. They treated more than twelve million shares. I heard the panic wiped out five billion billion with a b five billion dollars thought about pulling out myself before I lost everything. But my broker told me that Richard Whitney himself spent millions all the big stocks Henry's, the one who told you about margins. It's a little annoying. How connor? He gets because he doesn't seem like he's that much better off than anyone else in the small southern town. But then again, you realize that if successful as he claims he must be doing something, right? Maybe if you hold on just a bit longer you'll make enough money to pay off your loans here at the restaurant glance at a gleaming new cash. Register you just bought see. I'm not worried. I know what? Babs and said, but some economics professor from Yale says, it's just a temporary hiccup. I heard the JP Morgan himself had a meeting with other bankers try and figure out how they could help. So it looks like it's under control these bankers on Wall Street. You know, they have a lot more skin in the game than we do. They're not gonna allow crash like backing off seven, but you're not so certain. George Tony broker. The news. I'm calling because you have to cover your margin. Don't you wanna say Hello before you asked me for money? I don't have time for that. I've got twelve other clients got a call Wall Street is in a spin your RCA's as not worth anything. Now, you gotta cover what you took out. Tony keeps chattering. You set the peace on the counter half listening. You turn around and start drilling burger for Henry. And so that means what you now is about a thousand dollars. You're tension. Snaps back to the phone, you drop, the spatula wait a thousand dollars. I don't have that sort of cash will find it. Look, I'm not trying to squeeze you. What the Bank squeezing me. What I spent it besides I thought you said RCA was going through the roof you said through the roof. I thought you sound like us that profit to buy more stock and still cover my margin. I that's here. Tony, what do you mean? I more you look at the. Light fixtures. You just hung the shiny new countertop the fancy phone in your hand. How could you have been so dumb, and how could it all changed so quickly? It was just last month. When you're RCA stock was worth a hundred bucks. A share you're still bickering with your broker when you start to smell something tenders burder burning. Listen, give me a few days or four eight hours. Something figured out twenty four hours. A better figure it out. In December nineteen thirty eight George Mahala spoke with an interviewer from the federal writers project. The Greek American restaurant owner was one of thousands of Americans would share detailed accounts of their lives to interviewer sent throughout the United States to write about life in the country during the worst economic crisis the world had ever seen the federal writers project was just one of the federal programs that president Roosevelt would later put in place to try to get the country's economy back on track. Among other subjects it documented. The heartbreak of millions of ordinary Americans like George Mahala who gambled on the optimism of surging stock market despite their better judgement as late as the fall of nineteen twenty nine few cared to hear about the unpaid debts from the war consumer borrowing that went on checked deflecting, commodities prices, or the fact that cars and dishwashers weren't selling quite as fast as they had earlier in the twenties. None of the new investors chasing the heady promises of. Of wealth and glamour seemed eager to slow down as I drew further and further from margin accounts, certainly no one stopped to ask whether banks could guarantee their deposits, indeed, some were still celebrating the high times of the twenties. Even as the economy faltered, the press heralded, America's business achievements in the business class continued to vaunt investment industry, and the theory as time magazine put it that America's greatest achievement had been business and in nineteen twenty nine as today the place to do business in America was the new York Stock Exchange, a truly American institution the exchange had been founded only five years after the ratification of the US constitution by the roaring twenties. The exchange felt untouchable as did the large banking houses who did business there. Many of the bankers behind these institutions were eager to stoke broad public enthusiasm in investing and spread the idea that anyone could make it on Wall Street, perhaps none was more eager to tout the Lou. Asian than Charles Mitchell, chairman of the national CitiBank, a company that would Volve later into today's city group Mitchell grew up in Massachusetts and attended Amherst college after school he moved to Chicago and worked for an electrical supply company for a few years in the early nineteen hundreds he became interested in finance and moved to New York. Mitchell opened his first investment house in nineteen eleven five years later National City hired him as vice president there. Mitchell developed a new income stream for the Bank selling stocks and other securities to middle class people in nineteen twenty one National City elected Mitchell as its president over the next eight years he further popularized, the ideas of stocks as a mass market product before that National City, primarily focused on large companies. But now, everyday America's and deed, the world's thirst for easy money from securities meant easy profits for national CitiBank, Mitchell and his call. Leagues on Wall Street ignored the Federal Reserve's warnings earlier nineteen twenty nine that they should reign in lending investors. The fed was wary of a repeat of the panic of nineteen o seven when the new York Stock Exchange fell to half what it was the previous year. But rather than tear to the warnings Mitchell through National City offer twenty five million more to seduce margin. Investors. American history tellers is sponsored by the new biography wild Bill. He was a soldier spy gunfighter and gambler he crossed paths with general Custer and buffalo Bill Cody not to mention the outlaws Frank and Jesse James his fame grew with the speed and strength of America itself. Now Tom klavan. The New York Times bestselling author of dodge city delivers the definitive true story of wild Bill hickok, the American frontiers. First gunfighter Qurqus reviews calls while Bill a vigorous yarn and cheers. How claybon writes fluently and entertainingly of a man shrouded in legend while being all too human read wild Bill by Tom klavan and discovered the real life of an American legend also enticing the public were so called bucket shops where instead of actually buying stock investors, essentially placed bets on a particular stocks performance. At the time they were largely unregulated and a magnet for unscrupulous characters and people looking to make a fast profit at the same time pools of well informed. Investors were taking advantage of newcomers by talking up certain stocks beyond what they were worth. The chatter would drive the price of these stocks up luring in more marks as the pools pulled out and sold off their shares. The stock's value would of course, plunge and novice. Investors were left withholdings. They couldn't unload for a fraction of what they paid for them. Signs of trouble on the market grew gradually after its peak in early September. By the second to last week of October mentions of a frightened market began appearing in newspapers. But these brief scares were coupled with optimistic recovery's during one of these small panics Mitchell demonstrated his influence as New York Times reporter said at the time by halting the slide merely by declaring that the decline had gone too, far it Wirt, but the result was. Leading in the same piece times also referred to Babson who continue to urge investors to sell stocks as he had six weeks earlier when predicting that crash was on its way Babson wasn't the only one fearful of more losses. Investors were too. And as they sold prices fell yet further and the cycle repeated on October twenty fourth a Thursday, investors panicked. Again, lenders started calling in the loans, they made to margin investors in turn these investors sold whatever they could hopefully fast enough to afford to pay back their loans. Prices plummeted as borrowers raced of take whatever value they could from the market this selloff only. Spooked more buyers and the effects cascaded as everyone lost the value that counted upon then at one thirty in the afternoon, it looked like the crisis might be over. That's when Richard Whitney strode onto the exchange. Floor Whitney was a broker at the famed trading house. Jay. P Morgan and the vice president of the new York Stock Exchange ear to demonstrate confidence in the exchange and the companies trading on its floor Whitney loudly proclaimed that he would buy twenty five thousand shares of US steel at two hundred five dollars per share that commitment of more than five million dollars more than seventy four million today was matched by other. And also overpriced offers for stocks the gambit worked my pumping millions into the stock exchange that afternoon Whitney was able to temporarily staunch the exchanges losses. He was a market hero. What his reputation wouldn't hold for long. The record-breaking pace of trading. Kept Wall Street denizens in their offices for days on end as they frantically settled accounts at the time trays were recorded by hand on pieces of paper. So it was a mammoth undertaking to process the New Orleans of traits that had taken place compounding. The problem. Traders had to wait hours to complete transactions stock ticker struggle to keep up with a high volume of trading. These tickers were the narrow printouts of modified. Telegraph machines revolutionary upgrades when they were introduced in the nineteenth century stock tickers enabled investors in far flung corners of the US to participate in New York stock markets transmitting nearly three hundred characters per second. As soon as traits were recorded, stock prices and trade volumes shot over telegraph cables to be printed out on narrow bands of white tape and banks investment houses and newspapers across the country, but the unprecedented. Millions of shares changing hands on. On Thursday, October twenty fourth nineteen twenty nine to lay the ticker by nearly four hours by the weekend. The streets were littered with bits of ticker tape and discarded trading slips, the market played catch-up all weekend newspaper accounts of the time detail, how New York's financial district normally pretty quiet on Sundays was a buzz as messengers ran about restaurants remained open beyond their normal hours and trader skipped trips through the golf course there were even sightseeing buses making special trips to Wall Street to witness all the activity compared to the previous few trading days. The next Monday was calm, but then on the morning of Tuesday, the twenty ninth more than sixteen million shares changed hands at the new York Stock Exchange this new record trading volume wouldn't be broken for another four decades. And it wasn't just an immense number of shares moving from one set of investors to another as panic stockholders sold shares. The stock's dropped in value trigger. Being a downward spiral across the market. The day would become known as black Tuesday. My market's close investors had lost tens of billions of dollars. Trading on the floor of the new York Stock Exchange was dizzying enough. But if you're an investor in a distant city keeping track of this activity was next to impossible. Again, the ticker fell behind the mass volume running as far back as two and a half hours and again brokers and traders had to work into the wee hours to settle there transactions. Indeed, the record volume was probably underestimated many trades likely were never recorded lost in the trading floors chaos or forgotten as exhausted traders fell asleep and Bank lobbies spilling trading slips from their overstuffed pockets confusion reigned on black Tuesday while the frantic trading progressed. Many on Wall Street waited and wondered whether bigshots like Mitchell or Whitney would come back out and haul trading or make some other sort of reassuring statement and Mitchell was one of those who made a showy purchase during the panic. He tried to help settle the crisis by buying between thirty and thirty five. Thousand shares of stock in his own Bank. Even though it was worth less than he paid for it. But unlike the previous Thursday when bankers also made large purchases of stock the rest of the market wasn't reassured the panic continued and trading on the new York Stock Exchange was suspended the next afternoon and closed for the rest of the week years later Mitchell's attempt at stabilizing the market would come under Senate scrutiny. But at the moment Wall Street was in a days a sense of shock pervaded the financial district. It was as if a bomb had detonated. What the worst was yet to come. As the market crashed on black Tuesday reports of PanAm new in New York and beyond spread stories hit front pages. About investors drowning themselves in the Hudson river shooting themselves in Kansas City, country clubs and dying of heart attacks, as they watch their investments, shrink vivid scenes of despair at plunging, stock prices were actually less common than dramatic. News reports made them seem popular legends of black Tuesday involving wash down investors leaving from buildings or stepping in front of speeding Packard's on Wall Street were widely exaggerated. These rumors might have even contribute to the panic as investors sold worrying they'd end up just as despondent, but they were mostly just rumors but away from Wall Street, real despondency grew and suicide rates climbed fewer people kill themselves in the months right after the crash than in the months preceding it but by nineteen thirty two well into the great depression, the suicide rate in the US had grown by more than one third from where it had been for you. Prior. But at the end of October, nineteen twenty nine the crashes worse reverberations were still to be felt in Chicago. The writer studs terkel was growing up at the wells grand the small hotel. His mother ran Turco would later become one of the chief chroniclers of depression era, experiences in his introduction to the book hard times, he reflected that the wells grants. Fifty rooms had always been occupied through the twenties. And there was always a long waiting list vacancies arose. But all that changed with depression. He wrote as for the crash itself, there's nothing I personally remember other than the gradual at first hardly noticeable diminishing in the roster of our guests. It was as though they were carted away on protesting an unseen at the entrance. We posted a placard vacancy as the economic crisis. Worsened opportunities dwindled across US and living condition worsened for millions of Americans out of work man began. During the country by boxcar in search of any opportunity that could find sometimes stealing food and dishes were dire. Hoped him d- the numbers of the newly laid off and homeless grew. And for many the only remaining semblance of society was the one they built themselves from scrap. It's a chilly mid-november night in nineteen thirty flames lick the sky above a dirt lot next elect Michigan as colours the night is the fire provides warmth two days ago. The Chicago Tribune name this place. Hoover Ville, it's dense clump of makeshift shacks. But it's the safest home you've had in this horrible year. You came to reveal after the factory work that shut down the summer. This is no simple encampment of tense dispersed willing nilly, you have real streets here even have their own names like hard times avenue and prosperity road. But there's a real city just outside of whoville. And it's police are trying to Vic you and your neighbors. It's clear that big Bill. Thompson Chicago's mayor wasn't barest. By the recent story in the Tribune watching workmen take a sledgehammer to your shanty, turn to your neighbor joke. Disgusted. How can they do this? It's obscene. We weren't hurt. Nobody look they're headed for the mayor's house now and your. Peripheral vision, you notice them. They're no not Thomson that truck. It's Donovan, Mike. Donovan your mayor. He might be a disabled rail brakeman, but at least Donovan isn't buddies with gangsters like Capone the way Thompson is Donovan's offered the little guys here in whoville. That's why everyone agreed to make him mayor when you were down on your luck. Donovan welcomed you write in. But now diamonds blue eyes stare on blinking leanna tractor approaching the corner of prosperity road and easy street. It pauses for a moment. But then knocks down the house Donovan built from discarded wood iron and brick. He scavenged on the lawn mayor grits his teeth Firelight glints off the wetness pooling is is Joe shouts at them. Shouldn't be doing this. You guys could be next as Joe yells. Police officer turns around and shouts at him to get back. Joe spits? I'm no bomb. I'm just a working, man. This is our home. We built it ourselves. It matters to us. We matter what a long year, it's been the market crash. Then you also your job at the factory and soon your home, put your hand on Donovan shoulder. You did everything could mayor you made this place happen together. We can we can build it again. Trust us. We got your back. Within a few weeks of black Tuesday. The Dow Jones industrial average lost nearly half its value from its high point in early September nineteen twenty nine after a short limited recovery into April nineteen thirty retreated again, the Dow would continue to shrink through July nineteen thirty two when it would fall to just a fifth of what it had been worth before the depression began and barely a year had passed from the stock market crash before shantytowns pumped up around the United States in mid November nineteen thirty this ACOG Tribune called one such community near Lake Michigan who reveal a direct knock against current president Herbert Hoover whose policy had failed to reverse the economic slide. Newspapers around the country reprinted the article on a plot of publicly owned land at the foot of Randolph street just next to grant park within sight of Chicago skyline. The who reveals sprang up as one newspaper described it like one of those mushroom mining towns on the bonanza days of the far west. Desperate residents built our homes from discarded building materials, but a meter three days after the site made headlines in the Tribune and elsewhere Chicago police condemned reveal moved into tear it down municipal work crews, I destroyed reveals buildings with a tractor, then they dismantled by hand. And then eventually burned whatever was left. The political implications of Hoover villes were enormous, especially considering Hoover's nineteen twenty eight campaign promise that poverty was on its way out the door. President Hoover had entered office promising chickens in every pot and the final radical of poverty, but within a year of his inauguration. His name was a political joke. The worst stock market crash in history had happened under Hoover's watch people were losing their jobs at frightening rates by the time he ran for reelection in nineteen thirty to a quarter of the country was unemployed. The figure was even higher in some demographics half of all African Americans lack jobs before the market crashed cotton had been selling for about eighteen cents a pound for years later, it costs just six the south's most important crop was only worth a third of what it had been before the depression. Other commodities like wheat steel, also lost. Value. The American economy had been in trouble. Well before Wall Street noticed, and it seems Hoover and his secretary of treasury. Andrew Mellon hadn't been paying attention. Either. Andrew Mellon had held the position as head of the treasury since Warren Harding took office in nineteen twenty one before then Mellon had transformed. His father's banking business into financial industrial empire. And he took his lessons from business into public office becoming a standard bearer for the fiscally conservative successfully pushing a series of tax cuts through congress during the nineteen twenties after the crash melons hands off business, I position didn't change. Instead, he urged Hoover not to intervene in the crisis and opposed variety of stimulus measures. He argued that a laissez faire approach would prompt Americans to pick themselves up by their bootstraps. And that enterprising citizens would lead the economy's recovery. This did not sit well with an increasingly despondent American public and by nineteen thirty two as congress prepared impeachment proceedings against Mellon. He resigned was appointed by Hoover as the country's ambassador to Great Britain. It was time to act so Hoover took to a new set of protectionist trade measures championed by Senator Reed Smoot of Utah and Representative Willis c Hawley of Oregon the two had been pushing for higher foreign tariff since before the stock market crash, but now after the crash support for tariffs had grown and the Bill finally made it through congress, but many economists and business leaders were against the measure, even Wall Street bankers such as j p Morgan's Thomas Lamont opposed it Hoover pushed on anyway, though. And the Smoot Hawley tariff act became law in the summer of nineteen thirty by then the entire world economy was reeling in the wake of the nineteen twenty nine crash. The new tariffs, though, only worsen the paint other countries felt and so in retaliation they enacted their own tariffs on US goods, which in turn hit American businesses and over the next four years. Global trade fell damn. Ging global economy and leaving even fewer markets open to American exporters consumers who lost money in the stock market crash drastically cut back on spending businesses collapsed factories shut down on implant skyrocketed. Americans couldn't pay the banks back for loans. They taken out to buy stocks on margin or for improvements to their businesses. They made on credit and meanwhile with so many lenders insolvent small banks that didn't have enough money coming in suddenly couldn't pay back their own creditors or give customer deposits back. And so even those who hadn't played the market still lost money. They thought was safe in their banks as the nineteen twenties near their end the roar fell silent. But this was just the beginning. Millions of people would lose their homes as the depression worsened Moore who reveals would appear and among these communities a movement stirred that would put the country's veterans on a collision course with Washington DC and press. Next week on American history. Tillers anger Rupp's around the United States as the depression sets in on employment begins Tarrant, the country's racial divides, an explosive confrontation looms thousands of World War One veterans March on Washington from wondering this is American history. Tillers I hope you've enjoyed this episode. If you did subscribe now on apple podcasts. Spotify Google podcast one dot com or wherever you listen to this right now, if you're listening on a smartphone swipe over the cover art of this podcast who find the episodes, including some details. You may have missed you. Also, find some office from our sponsors by supporting our sponsors. You help us provide this show to you for free. And if you do like this show, one of the very best ways you can show. Your pre Shen is to give us a five star rating and leave a review, I always love to know, your thoughts in detail reviews are one of the best ways for others. Find the show tell you, friends and family and show them. How does it scribe? You can also find us and me on Twitter and Facebook follow the show at a h tellers, and I'm at Lindsey Graham and thank you American history tellers hosted edited an executive produced by me, Lindsey Graham for airship sound design by Derek barons. This episode is written by Bill Lascher at it'd Dorian marina edited and produced by Jenny lower Backman, produced by George lavender, our executive producer is Marshall Louis created by her non Lopez for wondering.
American History Tellers
Aired 3 months ago 67:01
AWTY 16 - Gaslit by Santa (Itsudatte My Santa)
Visit Har star it will never disappear because it's the star of Christmas. Hello and welcome to our their education and exploration and enemy. I am. Your enemy idiot. Patrick dugan. I'm an anime expert, Dana Hollander, and I'm Brennan McCullough your anime, heat miser. Ooh, he's oh prickly. This time of year 'cause he wanted to be hard. He buys. Mr. son did love it. Season. The best end of the year. Franken in bass, they don't make anime like that. Good as. So yeah, we are smack dab in the middle of our Christmas spree of episodes. I'll just preface this. This was like the only straight up Santa based anime I could find. Hopefully, if we get to this point next year, we can find something specific already. We are finding the bottom of the barrel scraping the barrel grasping anything retained. 'cause yeah, Lana. Lana shows have ache Christmas food knowledge shows are about Christmas. So a rough kinda or this week. We have two episode series of my Santa eat Sutat mice that day to day. I pretend like I know Japanese in that I say things, right. But I definitely don't know better than we do, you know, the pronunciation, not the meaning area. Yeah. Actually, I think it means always not the top of my head like when I looked it up. I think it said always always my Santa, my Santa doesn't make any more. Sense. Secrets abound. I assume neither of you have seen this. Nope. Cool. Neither have I we're all going in blind. Never flow. What what what do you think going on here? What what are your guesses for what we're about to get into? I like the idea of people having personal Santa's I think that sounds really cute. So that's what I'm going to hope for. Yeah. Yeah. I never thought of that way. I do like that. As a, hey, it's not one person who caters to the entire world. You get to know your Santa you get to have a relationship in a familial tie to this Santa fake here. Yeah. That's the case. My Santa's Churkin his responsibilities for years, just a bad Kate. I mean, I'm not getting coal either. So I don't know. I'm not getting nothing you're beyond cool again. Stink. Nothing. Day goods. I think this is just looking at the covered love harem. And like all these Santa Ely looking folk or all over this one guy, I see 'cause it's just like five women in dude. Icy. So I do down for that. A harem. I looked at the author of the Mangga also wrote love Heena, which is a love Eram, so doesn't that's what it's about. I'm guessing that dude wheelhouse for. I've watched Vena it's not great, especially in hindsight. Great as the enemy idiot loves harem as a John. Rowe what does that in tail? Lots of girls that want one boy. They want dick. All you get all of the troops versions of like love interest, yet, the judge girl, the nerdy girl, though, like maternal girl, the business focused girl, like there's always one ideal of that the guy always wants the chest. So it's just a love triangle city. Yeah. It's like and hexagon. Yeah. And asked where people get like shipping involved because you can ship the main character with any of them, and everyone has their preference. One true pair their wife, and it's just it's a mess. It's not. She's the best. We all have lifers. Noah's denying that president is my wife who and if any shit about Princess, peach. I am going for blood. Just makes it yes. She is Japanese. I never thought of that way. There's nothing wrong with Princess peach. And. This podcast is trying to find his wife who it's the bachelor should have like a special. Oh, man. This is sprung on me taking notes here. We go. Plus next. Good idea. Oh. What what a terrible thing lay my hat on. I have a I have a show where friends just trying to get in and the bay white. I mean, let's not pretend like this is any. True. Why am I having standards? All right. So shall we? See if Santa is my first wife. Hell you gotta make the personal special. All right. We are watching the only two episodes that exist, and we will see. Interesting. Hobo merry Christmas. If this is Christmas, I'm converting God. Yeah. Right out of the gate. Yeah. I've passed on a couple of shoes. Program of ours. This was this is just hard to walk this. I it 'cause there's Masoom important thing. Yeah. You finish the whole anime. To vote at what cost at what? Humanity is laws. I actually looked this up because I was kinda thrown off by the only to episodes and they're saying like, oh, these Lovie as like a regional video animation. I think that's what means so they didn't intend us to be legal full series thirteen or twenty some episode. But especially after the last at the end of the last nearly oh, here's a sneak peek of the next up suit and they plan to third episode. And it just wasn't made. They make it. So there's a goal Wikipedia page about it. However, the video was recalled when it was discovered a due to a misprint the DVD was label TV PG when it was intended to be TV. Oh, fundamental announced that they had planned to rerelease for the twenty two thousand eight holiday season. But it was never materialized. So it just got forgotten about like it never got released in the US. And I don't know we couldn't find a third upset anywhere. So I guess didn't happen to Japan. Either are known the worst fate for this to be forgotten. Not surprise. It makes sense. I wouldn't say I'm surprised, but I am disappointed. It just had so much potential. Really didn't. Tastic? Let's get into it. And see why? Yeah. Hop on end. So we start with the it's your standard early setup for Christmas movie of oh, no one believes in Santa because it's all a sham. Hi. I'm your bidder main character, and I I don't like Christmas parents didn't care. So I don't like Christmas. And like it just goes like a mile a minute with information in this one. Just like, boom, boom. And it really just feels like they have like a fifty chapter Bangla and just condense it down to two. So it's it's just we go fast. There's a lot going on. No. Yeah. If it feels like we're glossing over Steph of that's just as jumping straight into it. 'cause there's no introduction of new concepts or people or places or things happen. Just. This scene ends immediately. You are right in the middle of the action of the next scene. So it. Yeah. Basically as soon as we get that opening introduction of this guy. Just monologue. Ing a immediately. He is being harassed by a woman in a shopping mall. Who says she is Santa? Yeah. It's yet got. Yeah. This show is as disjointed as our notes are. So didn't watch it. You'll feel like you did on for before we get to far. I watched the dub. Yeah. Did too. I don't think it matters. Yeah. I don't think it's gonna be great either way, I nine the dub was very bad. Say that like even though the writing in the show itself was really bad. I felt the main guy was like pretty good like I thought he did his best. His opening monologue was just very like, I don't I think I think he didn't care either. So like his opening monologue was very just like, yeah. This is my shit, and I'm into it. Whole thing. Let me explain it in this tone at the very end of the second one they like the next episode and the girl characters like wait, we're doing a third one. And I couldn't tell those actually written or that was like oh blooper they left in because the actors just like what is garbage like I can't believe we're doing third one. I hope it was real. Yeah. Also this kid every Christmas his parents aren't around. And he's just like got dropped off with his grandmom at a young age. The parents are just assholes interesting seek it and just never talked to them or around Christmas. They call. But it's it's not a great call either get them. It also seems like occasionally they'll call seem every year. So so you guys in the shopping center gets started getting harassed by this random woman, yet she is just shouting hay UN Santa I need to make you have a good night. The let me spend the night with you stranger. And then just shouting that of course, everyone around is like, ooh, would scandalous thing. Does that mean Hoffa them? And then she is like, oh, you pervert and slaps him if Moshe she's Shelton stuff in. He's just like who the fuck are you? And then arrested because the cops call communicate you can't just slap people and like make a scene and Drager away. But then she's back then she's back in. Just slips away from the cops something I she's anti explained. Yes. She has magic. Sure. Okay. Cosso yet the guy is walking away. He's like, okay. I don't know this crazy woman. Let me leave. And then she's like, why do you hate Christmas stranger? I just met. I know your whole deal now. And and it is revealed that this is our main character he was born on December twenty fourth and therefore he was named Santa. That is why he hates Christmas because it's his birthday. And also his parents love Christmas so much to name him Santa but spend zero time with them on. And I think I think his parents just hate him. Yeah. I only miscast to do with their love for Christmas. I mean, they just Trump at the grandmas players just like it's fucking problem. Now. Eater yet in. Now, we know his whole deal, and she's insisting on giving him like the best Christmas ever over whatever reason. And when he tells her that his name is Santa she starts laughing on the ground rolling around laughing despite just telling him that she is also Santa she is also Santa everyone is Santa. Yeah. There any other Santa's I should know about there will be there will be. It wasn't this point that I wrote my favorite note that I think I've ever written for anything ever. Which is honestly what the fuck is going on. Throughout what the fuck. Yeah. So it I don't think it's mentioned until they will vary later on. But this girl's name is multi. So it is my and Santa model. My sent the name is a pun. I just took to calling him. Boy, I just root boy and girl because that are giants, and my which one did you mean, I called her mind. So I knew was it established this early because I did know her getting named Maya theft or she takes a shower. Gotcha. So we get and after after she fights the gang leader. Yeah. As he's like walking away on the small. She's like see let me show you have Santa powers and can only some things that have sawn in the name for some. So she summons a bunch of just like Japanese puns that didn't really translate. But they would translate. Some of the words Soleil stuff that could be translated. They did within stuff that was too hard. And like the pun when work that kept it in Japanese. So it just made it more confusing because I didn't know what half the stuff she was so many was so she summons a bunch of fish. And then there's they're a bunch of garbage Dhillon. Trash rose garbage at him pretty much. And as he's trying to flee from this. Santa just throwing garbage at him. He bumps into this gang leader, not so cake out of his hands. And the show is so bad. It's not good truly not good. Yeah. Apparently, there's this game leader. And then about a thirty million people behind him that are his gang, and they were all gonna share this one small. Vinnie cake? So naturally, he's ready to fight because their holiday is ruined. And it's not just indicate it took like three weeks to call ahead. Take three months in advance. You could get a new one right away. It's it's so special and tiny two thousand people. Apparently, he's also also you can tell this show is bad because none of them had a sixty-nine sweater on. This is an established trope. We know we all know this. Please play by the rules. At least once my Fanta. Gang leader tries to fight him. And then my starts wailing on him using Santa powers and beach row her tiny deer that apply visit named Pedro. She has a small stuff to reindeer that she uses for hours and. The she says anyway, I'll be Pedro mobsters Pedro. And he says some name, I guess boxer. Or wrestler or boxer something I guess that's a reference to something and no tiny dear came out in like two thousand one two thousand two something I said. Some reference about than. But no, she summons another sand thing, but it's like a giant non chocolate three piece noncha- thing. Seena before but entrance to fight them off and can't. And then just some more fish just a lot of fish, and like crushes the whole gang in that. And it's weird. And then yeah, then we cut back Ben he takes boy takes her back to his place apparently. And she's in the shower in he's just sitting right outside the door. While she showering. She got OT ten a whole Titi. Not expecting to see a book and Titi in this Santa show. I was so excited when it said it wasn't achie-. I was ready for them to imply bang. I never got that. Banging sans. Spoiler alert. They never bang bang. Do the baby. Wow. But only because as that was happening. I was thinking like one of the website asked me if I asked me if I was seventeen which was. What did it ask me that as soon as I thought that the Titi was on screen, and I was like oh. Oh scandal. There'd be. Yes. So we see Santa's titties and asks. Not santa. But she is she said she say it too. But the point is also Santa. Grandpa's Santa literally once. Got. It's if using and yeah, this is where we find out. Her name is may. My whatever. The show. She says don't look, and then he goes to grab Pedro for some reason. I forget it like no don't grab patriot. He bites throws up in the door, which exposes her. And she's like don't look at me, you pervert in searches throwing shit at him. But she is the one that jumped out, so okay, and it just smash cuts them in the living room. And she comes walking drying your hair in just like a college business shirt in. That's it. So like not leaving much fee. I it's just so but for someone so concerned with oh, don't look at me. Don't look at me. Now where shirt, and that's all heavy sit outside the shower. This this sort of stuff really makes me mad of like, the you could be so clever. You could write any excuse for it to be a genuine like you pervert slap. But just like setting yourself up to be exposed events lapham in being like, you monster I through my many titty at. Did I? It just that end him just being like this crazy lady. She's so crazy comeback department. Yeah. He's crazy about eighteen million times in this. This is absurd was before sources were invented. They didn't know as soon in them's were. Yes. It's a rough go just so yeah. Then they're little living room and boy just monologue. Ain't they love just monologue for stretches at a time because it's so short they have to get in all of the information. And they also got a just draw those big as empty rooms with just very little in it because that's more to drawl and they're on funk in budget, and it shows. So you live there by himself. He's got a couch TV in shower handle, all I know, we know he's he's talks about being a senior so high school, and he talks about the other girls saying, she's the only senior in my last. What does that mean? I know around low what happened to the grim that raised him just many boosts single paternal figure your life this single character. You set up is grandma at the very beginning. And then you never see her. She's only in flashbacks, so I can only presume she's dead and possibly reincarnated as Santa. It's a mess. So we get his whole fucking bag story. His and we get a flashback of his grim holding over a table over a cake and also holding the phone to his head to talk to his parents, and he just looks trunk office. Like as a kid he's just so out of this dead faced at his mom's talking about hey, sorry. We couldn't be there for your birthday and Christmas tough shit la-. She doesn't say why should say where they are. They say they're working. It's like, oh, well, we don't know anything about them. All we know. They just abandoned him as soon as possible. And then we see like they sent them a picture and his parents would eat kids or something children. They're super happy. Rub. It in. Rub it in establishes. This is the only Christmas slash birthday present I have ever gotten. And it's like Jesus Christ. You the grandma couldn't be like, hey, let me get you a packet gum. There's a little rush to toys from one of those quarter vending machine at this point. It was the first time I wrote on the notes what the fuck is show. It's also like this might be eight minutes into the first so much already happened. I think it's also important to note that my mentions that this isn't her real body because he constantly teases her about being like flat chested small, so she's like, oh, no I have much more voluptuous true body, but on out of magic. So I'm in this tiny or form because that happens. Magic. I mean, they are. But. No, you're right. So then my latches onto boy while he's monologue. Ing we're gonna throw you a big ass party. And makes you less lonely sad depressing because she also asks him, she's like, do you have any friends and he's like, yeah. But they suck. Okay. God, it's specifically says like they're the type of friends who would ask you to take a picture, but like would never like take a picture of you or be in that picture with, you know, this is what blew my mind. He said he said, exactly. Exactly. If they would they would. They would ask you to take a picture of them. But not look at the pictures you've taken. What? So Audie Lee worded. There's so much easier ways to express that thought that. That's very wrong. It should be. Like, they ask you to take a picture of them. But not to be in the picture that makes a lot more sense. Like, I just want to establish right now before we get further into the episode that he's like, my friends suck. And they're all very like, they'll take advantage of the. Yeah. Okay. That's a stab wished. Okay. Now, we can continue. They throw like a party for them, which is just my making a bunch of food apparently, and like just blowing party poppers and as anime traditions. She's terrible coaching because everyone in anime is apparently and they freaked out when they buy into it. And he tricks her eating and she freaks out and then they run off onto the balcony. And then just start like throwing exposition like crazy weird fake deep. Yeah. Oh. The before they run out onto the balcony. She's like, you probably like a girl who do you like, oh, I don't really reaches into his shirt and gangs out a picture, which I guess he just keeps a picture of the crush. She has. His own. Yeah. It was on his phone. She still is phone. We had a picture of her unkind makes more sense. Still gripping open on his phone you easy to find. Like, oh, here's one girl on his phone that must be her. And this is when we find out his crushes, the senior class, or whatever doesn't matter. So so there's a weirdly like inspirational speech of like, hey, just picture of like everyone is celebrating right now. So you should be celebrating too. And also took a little bit of a religious turn. 'cause they're like. Yeah. Celebrating jesus. So they're giving honor to him. And it's like, okay. What? Yeah. Got a touch religious for no reason. It was so weird. Because you you say inspirational Icee just weirdly Christian. Yeah. Will like trying to be everyone is talking about Jesus Christ today in hell. He helped us. So, you know. After we watch the show with literal Jesus, This is. Yeah. This one to get Jesus. Easy true. Yeah. This one was more preachy than the Jesus. Yeah. Jesus Christ in Saint young men liked capitalist Christmas. He didn't he loves Santa not the other way around sanded his him Christ's. I'm having an aneurysm. Real. All right. She decides that he just needs like the happiness power that she has. And she kisses him till like transfer this happiness energy. Oh, she also says they're celebrating Jesus birthday. But they're also pretty yours. Even if you don't know it there's nobody specifically you Santa and kisses him. Yeah, entrance. I it's her power. And then immediately his phone rings. And it's the crush saying like, hey wanna wanna come to a Christmas party? And he's like, yeah. Heck, yeah. I'll be right there. And then my gets all mad because she says, oh, no, that's not. That's not real. That's a setup that's part of a happiness power you. That's just happening to make you happy. And is like I don't care. I just got invited to a party. I'm going to go do the thing. He wanted me to do like, go out in joy, myself on my birthday. And she's like, no I wanted you to spend the night with me. And then she runs away to show. I wrote down the direct quote. Thank you. Thank you are scribe. I'm gonna act usually just read them, but I'm going to act this time. So people know that I did ten years of voice over like stuff. So here we go. You're all thought about since I met you I fell for you. I fell in love with you. And then she runs away. Did she meet him what hours ago, we saw this? And she's like obsessed with them right out of the gate, and it just. Fork is the show. But then so she says like no that's my magic making like the girl. Call you. It's not real. So that means her magic is just lying to him. So isn't that worse than the happiness? Like, oh, here's fake happiness. Just to give you a little boost. Here's like happiness steroids. It's not real. And the backlash is going to be a bitch. Lemme set up a scenario, and then immediately take it away from you. So you could know the timing could be having. But you won't because you're going to be spending with me the person you hate, and you keep calling the crazy girl. Well, I thought she was lying and that she was just jealous. But then he does go to his crushes house that she's like, I didn't call you. Yes. So this is what super fucked me up. Fine up until this. He goes uninvited to this party goes to the crash, and she's like, I didn't call you. You never come to the last few parties. But if you wanna say, you can all of your friends are here, we're having a Christmas slash birthday party for you that you were not invited to. But everyone, you know in love is here, and they've all been waiting for you to show up. No, she vited him. She says you've never come to him before. Even though I've buddy or something along those lines. Like she said like I've invited you before. I just never come. And we assume Jesse. She just like stopped inviting him, but they still celebrate it this is because you guys have you guys seen meet the Robinsons. No, no, okay. Well, there's a part where character is walking down a hallway. And all of the kids are like, hey wanna come to my house today? Hey, I like your binder. And then he's like veil hated me. I think that's the thing though. Because it's also like right around the time, we get a flashback of win their kids. So I think it's they invited him when they were really young all in kindergarten together or whatever. And as the older he stopped coming or stop wanting to hang out with them. So they stopped inviting him, but they kept doing it. But still they were all it wasn't like they were like, oh, this guy doesn't show up. Whatever will still have a Christmas party. There's still like, yeah. Let's celebrate his birthday. It's his party. He wasn't invited this year. But now that he's here fucking great. And. So like many. These eighty fake friends as he call it throw him a party and just like I'd allies him every year. And then once he actually does show up. They're like, yeah. You are. So welcome here. And then he's like, I gotta go find Santa and runs away, and like in the flashback remember that time grandma made that cake for your birthday, who's great, and we all out in their singing and stuff. So they clearly really thought themselves as friends than just like, oh, he prefers to be alone and to make him happy. We'll let him be alone. And then when he runs off to find my he's one of the French like, oh, don't worry. We'll be here waiting for Gyula Guinea time. You wanna come back? You're welcome writing really selling it really selling this party to them on his wages. Love him so much. It's he so great. Everyone loves Santa. Oh, my. And finds my back at the place where they met in. Then he's like what's the girl? Like you doing alone on? He kisses her. I. She says what are you doing here? I I set that party up. So you could go there. And so to be with me. Directly conflicting the thing shouted as she was leaving previously. I wanted to spend the night with me and not party. Still the episode lab. Whopping everyone's intentions for no reason. And it doesn't make any sense. Spend time with me there's a party you should go. But you will them time with me, you went to party and left. I wanted you to go to the party now that you're here. I'm in love with you. This is an abusive relationship. It's this gas leading to the heels on. Why? My god. I feel like we're being gasoline. I feel like we're the ones being tricked. That's what it is. Oh, my show gas lip by Santa. Dan, this Mangga author is like a fucking brilliant tactician just fucking with us. Oh, very good. Just deep Smoot. And then she he gets her powers back. I guess from that one deep Smoot hand for his pity's again. The whole whole titties girl transformation scenes where a meat leash. She strips down nude and then given to Christmas garb over hair turns blonde. Yeah. Because that's sexy. We all know Santoso blondes. Do you believe me now? And he's like, you really are Santa and not flat chested. Do come true. Oh. I just wanted for Christmas some Bigalow, double DS, some tingle. This ain't your daddy. Santa the Santa Santa book is a fucking. Just so sexual. Magical. Why couldn't you Fook actual and? Sing actual Santa's noth-. Fuck. No. I've seen a lot of pictures. Definitely talk. Aqaba saying this is this is a high school Japanese, boys. Fuck -able, Santa sure this is a playboy bunny Santa. Yeah. Earlier. He did say might typist supermodels. So we're those on you dumb dumb child idiot. So we got we're we. So it is. So now, obviously it's midnight on Christmas though, this now powered up Santa. Decides to take a boy Santa and go deliver presence 'cause it's it Santa time. Hip Santa times. God. And they're just dropping presence off the kids while they're sleeping and giving them weirdly like sagely advice like went to donate. So which candidate we were vegetables. Because I know I thought it was like sweet that she like knew them all and was saying like specific things about each one. But then also like this show is this terrible. Sweet. But also, I hate this. She's just showing up in the kids rooms and being like, hey, this boy got bullied because he still believes in Santa I'm gonna leave a little present for him. So he knows he's right. And give them a kiss on the kiss the kiss was on telling me don't kiss random kids. We'd Ben Goto like an orphanage play county. Yeah. I guess we see a bunch of kids sleeping on the floor. And then one girl in particular my saying like, oh, she wants to be a doctor. But right now, she's working. So she likely won't be a doctor because she hates it when people around her, sick shifts. You wanna make them better? But she probably won't be a doctor 'cause she's poor. Poor. But poor. She specifically said all of these kids are working. So are they visiting like a sweatshop like child wavered age every 'cause she did way worse because his parents are there. Yeah. Because this is supposed to be like, hey, all these poor kids. Oh, your parents were actually out like helping these poor kids, so they can learn and have like a role model, and that's why they weren't for Christmas. But they're contributing to this labor camp. But she says. Taga fers. So I guess that her busy. Like, why does that matter? The reason orphanage what as a matter of their news for Tigers. And why would they be this is their job? Show they show his parents calling him. And it's just the same voice clip as before of his mom saying the whole thing again just the exact same way sue the money to can't can't afford to rerecord that line. Yeah. And it's and it's him answering his phone apologizing. I understand all the good work. You're doing I'm sorry for like wanting to spend time with the keys apologizing actually a bad tube. But his parents just a painting in Colin would whenever they feel it and just send them a picture with them a bunch. They never explained what they're doing. They never told him in how many years that they're like, hey, we're off helping orphans like sorry. Here's a little teddy bear. So no, they get nothing. And he's a very good reason. We are not with you, son. This is a classic no-one communicates. And it drives me insane. You can be like, hey, by the way. Do you want to know what we do for a living some with that helpful too? Settle you into your life knowing that we are out in the world. Choose ignorance, I hate you. Sorry. We can't we can't be around to raise e we're too busy raising other kids whose parents don't want to raise them, which is exactly what we're doing to you. Ho, grandma's, not dead SIA. Like, it's just and he's love it twenty feet behind them. He answers the phone call and he's right like outside the house. He could just go and talk to them. Yeah. And that sort of our resolution for this episode because he's like, yeah. Okay. I I was a little uptight. My parents are out doing good things are good people are at let's go in. So they fly off into the night. They say like, hey, the spin magical night. Thank you so much. They see other Santa's going around. So. Yeah, they are doing like a regional like once Anta per region thing. Don't always see another sexy Santa. Yeah. Sexy tale Santa. Yeah. And they fly up and they say like, hey this. This is our Christmas star. This is our star to represent our night. It is. That's the moon. I don't understand. He might you start his 'cause that's sure shitting one. Basically it for this episode. No, there's way more thing. I need to point in credits or yes, there's an end credit scene. But one more thing in this. There's a license plate on this for it had seen three dash d two. And then waiter it shows S W C three dash d too. So for whatever fucking reason they threw in a Star Wars reference in RTD too. And it's like why why in this final shot? Did you just need this little tag? Vinci code. You got to watch Star Wars during Christmas and you'll find the secret Santa location. I don't know God. And. The credits scene. Yeah credits. Roll whatever who cares about the song. And we get this end credits. Like, ten seconds of Ono a used on my power bring you around, and I can't get back to Santa land. So I guess I live with you now hunt. What twist I I didn't watch that in the second episode. I just accepted what was. Yes. No. It was it was strange 'cause a on. When I was watching it. We hit credits at like, twenty four minutes or whatever. And then there is lots of credits. And then just a very short clip at the end. So I don't know why they buried it. After the credits gonna gonna keep them sit around to watch all the credits to show everyone who put in so much good work funding. Try I really don't know how there's a second episode because how can we top perfection? Yeah. Honesty. They got it in one. They should adjust stopped there. But yeah. Let's let do episode two. I had rewrote notes on this week because I have a I I struggle to not I almost this off three. Say I'm so glad that there are only two episodes in that one of the episodes is a beach episode. I was going to say it was like to, but we squeezed it in and not only beach. We also squeeze in hot spring seen a bath house scene, and we get all of Cheech ropes in. Oh my God. All right. Still don't bang still don't pain. Let's let's episode for this series continue. If Santa if Santa Bank Santa's, and that's. Anyway, we can breeze through the second real quick because a lot of our notes and allow the show are the same. So it's quicker, and I had to watch usually watch subs and dubs. I had to dump for this one both times because just so much going on. I couldn't stop to read it all. So just fuck it just went through God. So yeah. Absolute right away beach the beach now deal with it. It was happening later. It starts exactly the same way. With a misunderstanding that Mayes yelling about. And then she gets arrested and she appears out of nowhere. And she feels like I'm not that kind of Santa slaps on and like exact but beat for being in some shoes. I would see this as a joke and kind of an Omani or like a reputable like another upset or early recurring joke in this one. I feel like it's just like, hey, we already animated this. Let's just change their clothes and backgrounds because the share. Yes, Pete, forget is exactly God. And then full wrote down. I also done. This weirdly deep thing that she says in the very beginning and her beginning monologue of meeting someone is just a prologue to a long, farewell. And I was like what? What do you mean? If you meet so you'll have to say goodbye, eventually make spotty. Thank you. Yeah. We'll talk about long farewells later on continue with this week. So like this pink girl appears on nowhere. Hey, this is my it's my sister. Okay. Let's just go. Well, don't worry about it. My sequel book. And she just keeps saying she's coming. She's coming. She's coming, and that's all she's saying what's happening up. There's pigtails Santa from the end of the first episode turns out her name Sheri. So she's here because she got assigned to be Santa for this area because my fucked up and used overpowers and Don I'm going horse from screaming about this. The Ruth acting up. So she's like, hey, I'm the new for this area. And is like, oh, don't worry. I got coat in church. Just like, no, you're Nydia. And you're not doing a good job. So they signed me, and I would love to not be here right now. But you must stop. So now, I'm here, and then should they challenge each other to do because to Santa's KP in the same place to their like, whoever wins will be Santa of this area? This town ain't big enough for to Stanton. Sure, the fifth episode the cowboy themed episode. Good. And they tell the boys whole life story again to Sherry and she laughs at him. Exactly. The same way my did Alaska 'cause got a squeeze those seeds and reuse what you can recycle reuse. Recycle their this. Thank you. My brain is short-circuiting. So then the dole with magic. But my can only someone self San in the title, and then I guess sharee just as gorgeous and just takes whatever mice omen and just makes your something anything herself. So I guess it's kinda like you. So then have very useful powers. No. It's just kinda like, Hugh, so something and then I make it big. And in one of us will be the winner. Okay. That doesn't make sense. Yes. So eventually areas like trapped in this big face that that is summoned and it breaks, and then it's considered like a draw. Yeah. It's sure God. Whatever so reading watermelon. Yeah. They eat watermelon. And basically they establish that these two are like next door neighbors in that grew up together. They went to school together. They set up this like Santa academy where there's everyone's training to be a Santa and Sherry is the top of the class. And my is the bottom of the class and just is a dumb idiot lasette rivalry. I hated this whole so during this whole scene this whole explanation. My mind is just eating watermelon. And they're still playing the sound effect of hurt. Eating mellon. She's not on camera, and it is just a vial sound. Yeah. Crunch and three frame animation of like, hold watermelon. Take one bite throw away, and it just keeps going and watermelons and just it's just really pigeon every penny here that was my favorite marvel. Storyline christ. No, that's DC. Fuck I fucked up my own joke crisis on infinite watermelons saying. I sheet anyways. So I just let's just cut to the chase with this. Because in this thirty minute episode. There's about two minutes of plot. That's relevant yet. True. So we'll just say my. I I did genuinely love this might has been called back to the kademi. 'cause she's such a fuck up. She such a bad student that they're like, hey, you sit. Rather watch bad Santa them. She rather hang out with Billy thorn for the to watch this, and he's an allied. Yes. She's such a bad Santa that she has to go back to Santa school, and she has until midnight on December twenty fourth to make to say her goodbyes until we've. This is miss. No. Well, who was for some reason working at a vending thing at the beach. And my just didn't question that she's summer job. Yes. She somehow the teacher master, whatever. So Mayes like, oh now, I have to say goodbye to Santa because I have to go back. And she says this on the beach. So naturally, you assume it summer. Yeah. At this point when they're saying you have to go back to Santa school. I is this a fucking magical girl anime is this. All just down to one mean. And it is my why weren't you at L practice? Really is. It's just I was so mad at myself. I actually thought of that like toward the end of the episode. And I was like why the fuck didn't. I think of this before. Come on Dana, you're better than this. The show isn't. So basically the rest of this episode is my being like, oh, I have to say the perfect goodbye to Santa I need to I need to find the perfect way to tell my love of the person who had known furred in episode in a half that month. Oh, forgive me that I love him so much. I can't live without him. And so naturally she does that by not telling him until the night. She leaves for another six months. Yeah. Time flies by yet. We basically smashed cut from that beach to them saying, oh, I have to say goodbye. And now, it's December twenty fourth pretty much gone. And I just love those like a few phone calls in this ups owed, and it's all just one sided dialogue who's cannot forbid. We hire another actor, they'll one-sided fun. Call. The police. That's who you are pretty much on that level. And it's completely on ironic and terrible as as that. Yeah. God. And we get a Sherry trying spend the whole time to get rid of my. So the my and Santa can talk about their feelings and express what they love about each other to themselves, and at this point cherishes monologue in my mind, and my Watson. And here's this whole plan. It's like, oh, that's what you've been doing these six months guests and failing to Siri care so much. Yeah. They were rivals about two minutes ago way. She hated my wait. We get flashbacks. And we find out that my share your best friends and always have been always will be contrary to contradictory to what they said earlier, and we get a flashback where sharing sisters they just fight. But at the end of the day, they love each other. So much road giant lake month from Ali at each other. But in the flashback, we see that Sherry is also Burnett. So this this is when are they fucking super saints because when powered up they loans. So sailor moon and drag about the and love Heena and Santa. That's what this show is. And it's terrible. So at the Senate kademi separated them because they're too good of friends. I guess I don't know. I I don't throw the whole episode. Sherry keeps reiterating like you can't pause time. You can't stop time deli tell people you love them like to really like time is like unmovable, you keep going with really hitting that home like they're sending up for some payoff later in the episode and weird and cut to like there in front of the same tree in the same backgrounds because budget and Sherry comes down. Great. I live with only tell you guys everything. And now we're able to set up the date I had planned for you for tonight, and you'll be able to get to it. What's that? The clock. It's eleven fifty seven Riedel have any time. But wait at she summons over Santa power and transforms and we another transformation sequence because you know, it's an and she freezes time she just should've freezes time. And does exactly what she said. She could never do. And she does it cause fuck continuity, and this gives them time to go out on a date and do all the fun stuff and express their feelings for each other before my has to leave. So take over exhausted. No, that's that's basically the rest episode. I'm ready. They go on they go on their date. They have dinner is beautiful. It's amazing. They go back to the tree after their date. It was fine. Good. And then my acting like she's fucking dying. Again, the white beam of light is rap sharing her up. It was sales cleared. And we also get a shot again guy. Did that moonshot is a very expensive special Christmas? Get it. Right. They cherished that. Don't you diminish it for them? So she's like floating away, and she's about like, oh, what if I die before Siham again, what if we never get to see each other again, and I was like isn't Santa like, immortal UB, immortal. No and this scene takes. If teen minutes I. I need to find the exact time. But it is just repeating. I will always love you. I will always be here for you. But what if I never see you again, that's ridiculous out? Always love you. And I'll always be here for you. But when you don't remember me for next Christmas is fine L, always love you. Always remember you. But what if I die? But I'll always love you. Of. It's it's. I can't. So it can't. So goes back to elf practice after we get another transformation scene. Seeing her whole titties and whole ass. And then it's over weight. I for sure did not watch the credits. Again, we will when she flies. All I like, the boy specific says, I will always treasure our friendship was funny thing to love and show his professing your love undying to each other. I don't even that whole back and forth for ten minutes. I don't even know if they ever say the words love, they specifically say friendship over and over and over again, specifically treasure your friendship. This is the extremist extremist instance of will they won't they in the fire world love each other the last episode year ago. Yeah, it'll be one point because every five seconds. They change it from they will to won't they won't. They will. They won't hey audience. They won't don't them. How much my good friend? God. And yes credits happened. Sure. Thank christ. It's over weight. No, there's more another post Trinite seen turned down. My dinette to go back to school because he's a dumb fuck up. Even though she is they're actually after my my and miss new there in dominatrix care saying like share you don't bitch. If you actually read the letter, you would've knew who we were talking about despite talking to me or my at the beach saying, you gotta go back, miss new wealth. Go. No. My mind gotta go back to. Okay. And that's it. I also did not watch this scene because oh soon over what the book she directly told my that she has to go back. But it's my mind. I'm this close to ripping my face off. She believes the litter. Enderle sharee. Why did you read this on it? Just as my it doesn't seem just as much. Does make sense. The next time with three. Fucking neck battle. It's a giant reindeer MEC battle and mice backing panic attacks. Stupid. Oh, my. And this shaves in. We're anime experts. And why we pick the anime? This is why we do pick them. Oh my God. You know, this is what we don't do next year. We're not doing Christmas next year fucking cancelled forever. Christmases? Christmases? Because we're doing more Halloween episodes. I need to do like some deep breathing. Got a a racist from memories. So on. Are you? I was physically we just talked for our about this, absolutely a- television show. Launching this is gonna be our shortest or longest because there's so much to unpack. And it's talked about the first episode for like forty five. Though. Because I f there was like substance. There is stuff to break down the second one. I ninety percent of it is bullshit. I did not take notes because I was not interested. I was not invested. There's nothing. I was like, ooh, let's explore this further. I was like business all garbage bullshit. We got the story we needed from the first episode if it was a standard single episode. It would have been just a bad Christmas special. But then they went in made it adventure. And it's like, okay, what we're done here, you you took my trust you took lay lows of this this genre. And you just threw it in the garbage. Oh boy. A few sips of water. I'm I'm trying to come down. I had from Ledley. Let's all collectively we're going to stop ranting. We're all gonna take three deep breaths ready. Here we go. Yeah. Wanted to do with third of soda more of. Maybe. Out our anyway, Mary Smith, everyone everyone Christmas you fuck. I earnestly. I earnestly had no idea what this series was in. I was like, hey, it's to episodes. This is gonna be our Christmas miracle. This is going to be the most anime series that I finish. And. What have I rot on? But you probably took like ten years off of your life. Yes. I. Visit the did this show is cursed. This is now the shame I need to carry and the motivation to actually see something because the only enemy series. I have seen in completion. Nice Santa and I have to carry the burden with me for the rest of my life. This show is the ring of anime, we're gonna die and seven days a plea. So. Anything to get this out of my mind. To do. This is not like every show. You said no to before two straight into the. Yes, column like instantly better yet. I. Disliked some things quite busy. Lou. Yeah. This is hate. This. I think this despise going right into the death note till off anyone with very cleanse it from this earth. Purchase re- books stunned. All all, right. We'll right. I thank you for joining us this week. Next. Yeah. Next week. We have we have actual good thing. I have such good news for you guys. Next week for our New Year's Eve episode. I have chosen the movie your name, which is one of my favorite movies of all time. So. Casting. I actually enjoyed that movie. Fully I'm just so defeated. I. Next week will be better. I promise. Heavy worse. So thank you for joining us. We can be found online at our Riveria on Twitter and Instagram. You can now if you wanna reach out in talk to us and see if we're real human beings are not you can reach us. At are. We there yet at g mail dot com. You can give us your anime suggestions, you can send series that you want to see his watch. We would love that feedback. Yeah. Maybe maybe telling them that. We now have an Email account. On those episode is the one is the worst. Good episode. This is a fun episode. It was a good show. Lanham worst anime we've lost. What did you make us wash? This. How dare you? You can personally attack me for my choices at Mr. Patrick Dugan on Twitter, Instagram. You can tell me that. I was always right at clean dot on Instagram and Queen underscore, we Abhu on Twitter. Could find me on Twitter drinking myself into an early grave at ABC s Brenton? And so. So I guess I'm gonna shut out a ghost Abry. Hey on Twitter and L E R I J e other artist. I commissioned trauma TNT care Theresa nly. And I really liked it. So I wanna give them a shout out on here. Hell, yeah. Yeah. We appreciate it art. Which is why we also thank him. You'll Rulli for our artwork and. I know it was raining out tro we've ever done. Let's keep commenting on it. I know extended as long as we can. And thank you to Louise on for the use of our fem- song stories off the album beats I almost mixed it up again, you can find olive Louise at Louisa dot band camp dot com. Thank you merry Christmas. Happy holidays, and we hope you will join us next time to. Learn to. Now holidays.
Are Weeb There Yet?
Aired Last month 52:24
Awkwafina And Sasha Velour: New York City Queens
Support for NPR and the following message. Come from HBO while everyone is talking and no one is listening. Bill. Maher is ready to get real watch. The all new season of real time with Bill Maher Fridays at ten pm only on HBO it'll be cheaper than therapy. From NPR and WNYC coming to you from the bell house in beautiful Brooklyn, New York. It's NPR's. Our puzzles word games and trivia asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now. Here's your host. Oh, fear Eisenberg. Nice. Hello, everybody. Thank you Jonathan. All right. Let me tell you. What's going on the shows jam packed? It is jammed much show. We've given you too much entertainment already. We have not one, but two special guests from the new movie crazy rich, Asians Aquafina is going to be. And the winner of halls drag race season nine Sasha velour is. I gotta say those are two awesome stage names, but they do not hold a candle to my stage. Name. Oh, fewer Eisenberg. Did you guys see ocean's eight? Yeah. If you haven't seen it, of course, oceans aid is the all female version of that heist franchise, and I think we kind of an important step in gender equality right now little girls can grow up watching that. And they can think okay. Maybe I can't become president. But I can become a pickpocket or swindler or a hustler. You know, if I play my cards, right? Maybe I can grow up to be a criminal, and then I can become president. It's summer. This is sort of the end of summer. I don't know this is a tropical season I've been thinking about this actually, all of my female, comedian friends have jokes about the New York summer streets and getting catcalled, and I got to tell you I I don't have to deal with that. I don't get catcalled ever. I well, okay. I did get I got picked up at a bar last week. I got hit on with the very weird line. I was at this bar in the sky leaned into me. And he just went, hey, you seem like a really good multitasker. Because I was like typing on my phone and reading a book like trying to be like don't talk to me. And he would not let it go. He was like, I bet you have a really beautiful work life balance. I don't really want to date you. But do you offer coaching? And I was so screwed up by it. I had sex with them. All right. You guys are awesome. Let's get the show starters place. Gay. Our first game is called historical tweets. Hey, Jonathan do you. Remember when Richard Nixon tweeted tricky, dick energy. To he only got one leg, and it was some Spiro Agnew. Let's meter contest. And I up Hannah Margolin you work at a walk in free resource center in Brooklyn high. So when you ring in we're going to hear this your opponent is Denise yacht. Suck you work for a company that makes telescopes and microscopes. Hello. It's awesome to be here. Thank you. And when you ring in we're going to hear this. Okay. Hanan Denise whoever has more points after two games. We'll go to our final round. This trivia game is called historical tweets. We'll read you a fictional tweet from a famous historical figure you're gonna tell us who tweeted it. Okay. Here we go. Beautiful March day off to the Senate soothsayers trying to stop me. But my pal Brutus has my back hashtag ride or die. Hashtag yellow. Denise Julius Caesar. It. Sure is. Yes. Yo this magic flute opera. I wrote really blew up eat it at Yari. Check out my soundcloud. Hannah mozart. That's correct. Mozart was a soundcloud guy. I think it would have been a band camp guy. Probably more of a Bank. Yeah. Yeah. Watson and Crick re grabbed my x Ray diffraction pick of crystallized DNA. But I was the female a scientist emoji. Denise I feel really bad because everyone feels bad about this. Female scientists. I could think of with biology is Marie Curie? Okay. That's not the one. We're thinking of Hannah. Can you steal? I used to know it. I think it starts with an F. And that's what I got. Yeah. I think you've maybe I can't give you the point for that. But you were probably think of the last name Franklin Godi totally was Rosalind Franklin answer. All right. Let's just take a moment to realize she wasn't given credit, and we still don't know her name. Future is female just way off. Loss followers when Twitter deleted all the botany Botts, reminder, peanuts, aren't just yum. They can be made it to Inc. Soap linoleum flour and one hundred and forty two other things nuts. Hannah, George Washington Carver. Yes in. My servant just took my meat and put it between two pieces of bread. I'm naming this nam nam after myself, hashtag portable hashtag Earl life. Denise. Is it just the Earl of Samland? It's just the Earl of sandwich. That's right. Hey up just a sandwich. What do I know? He's the fourth Earl of Sam was fourth three before. And they didn't say they didn't make one avocado toast, not even one. Ruler of Egypt linguists diplomat naval commander, but y'all wanna talk about my shadow. No other cues hashtag ask me another. Denise clean Cleopatra. That is correct. Yes. But a great first game. Denise you're in the lead. All rise. This audio quizzes called courtroom drama. I love courtroom television and film scenes because they are very unrealistic, for example, no one ever takes the fifth. Just a little fun fact if you're ever in Canada, you do not take the fifth you take the eleventh. Seriously, the fifth is you have to say, you're sorry. Let's check in with our contestants Hannah, you are really into making felt animals. It's true. Okay. Obsession is a fair to say I want it to be one. But I've only made four over several months, so it's an aspirational case. And so so you're making filled animals are now, please describe what these look like they're like six inches tall. And they look ferry homemade. Do they have like googly eyes about nice, but nice? Oh, cute. So which ones have you made to penguins, a shark and a narwhal. Oh, yeah. Nice through in the NAR wall the unicorn. Yeah. Denise making telescopes and microscopes is such a specific jump. I have to handle the e commerce for most of the us. I've learned how to say like different optics and every language at telescope and microscope is so boring. It's like telescope telescope microscope. It's so in a battle with a microscope against a telescope who would win the battle. I mean. I have a qualifying question. What are they battling for a physical? The battle is for the most fascinating thing that can be seen. I personally think microscope. Mike thank cool to see things that are right under your nose. Yeah. Far who cares? Yeah. It's just our future home cares. Let's go to your next game. Hannah have you ever done anything illegal when I was? When I was nine I accidentally didn't pay for my ice cream at cold stone. Because I got confused about not doing it directly at the same time as getting the ice cream interacting to walk to the end. Yeah. The new well, I got home. I realized it I started weeping and my mom, drove me back. So I could pay them for it. Yeah. How many times after that? Did you repeat this mistake? You clearly don't know me. Denise have you ever done anything illegal stolen, anything J walked model? Citizen citizen. Well, good for you. Finally, great to finally, meet someone. So this is an audio quiz called courtroom drama. I'm gonna play you a clip from a TV or movie courtroom scene. You just have to ring in dentistry wear it came from. And this game is worth double points. So Denise stay in the lead. And you are in the final round Hannah, you need to get more points or you will be questioned on a jury that means a whole week without the news that actually might be a wonderful thing. Yeah. Okay. Here's your first clip. Chevy. Didn't make three twenty seven fifty five three twenty seven to sixty two and it wasn't often in the belly with a four barrel. Cobb till sixty four. Hannah. My cousin Vinny. Yeah. That's right. Identify this TV courtroom. It was like five or six. I was friends. Will you cursing at five or six of his friends for you idiot? What put you down put you down. Judge judy. Yes. I mean, it must be great to be a TV. I feel like you get to do some nonstandard things like call them idiots. Call them idiots. Here's your next clip. Because isn't it? The first cardinal rule of prime maintenance that you're forbidden to wet your hair for at least twenty four hours after getting a Perm at the risk of deactivating the ammonium. Thank luckily. Hannah legally blonde that is correct. A movie that made Harvard law seem fun. This next clip is from Sean to land on. It's no secret that my reputation suffered in this courthouse. I can handle it. But I won't allow it to keep my client from getting a fair trial. Hannah how to get away with murder that is correct. Yes. Is your last glue? Oh, you ready for yours, and Stanton's, but then must be voted. Voted. I. Denise Alice in wonderland. Yes. Okay. Very exciting. Hannah pulled ahead and great game Hannah. You are moving onto our final round. Coming up. We'll find out who will face off against Hanna and our final round and rapper and movie star Aquafina will join us to recommend the finest public restrooms in New York City. So if you're listening to this while walking around town right now, just hold it for another ten minutes. I'm is Burg. And this is asked me another from NPR. Support for this podcast. And the following message comes from within creator of the wifi smart scale. Meet your goals, what they smart scale that delivers weight BMI and body composition. Even a local weather report. See why Tom's guide named weddings body. Plus the best overall smart scale of two thousand eighteen visit with things dot com slash NPR for thirty percent off any body composition scale with ings giving people the tools they need to improve their lives. This message comes from NPR sponsor Rockies, raw 'this is the everyday flat for life on the go. That comes in four fashionable styles for women, the flat, the point the loafer and the sneaker fun designs and patterns while still looking polished and professional with new colors launched every few weeks. Best of all RAF. These are made from recycled plastic water bottles and completely machine washable. So you can feel good about wearing them. Go to Rocky's dot com and enter the code another to get your flats and free shipping. Hey, it's Peter sago from wait. Wait, don't tell me if you're a normal. Wait, wait listener, you shout out the answers to all the questions, and then you get frustrated that no one can tell how smart you are. Here's the solution. Wait, wait quiz available now on your smart speaker, just ask your smart speaker to open the wait, wait quiz. Finally, your genius shall be recognized. The following interview contains a slang word that may be sensitive for some. This is another NPR's. Our puzzles word games and trivia, I'm Jonathan Coulton. Now. Here's your host fear Eisenberg. Johnson. It's time to welcome our special guests, she stars in oceans aid to end crazy. Rich Asians in theaters. Now, it's Nora alum, aka Aquafina, everybody. Is welcome asked me another. Thank you. Yes. I'm here. Yeah. Nor nor alum or Akwa pheno Aquafina started when you were teenager. Yeah. Around the your choice for choice. Yeah. No, no, no good choice. I said your choice. You are choice portion situation. Didn't know that people would actually call me that you know. Yeah. Yeah. And what does this persona provide for you? I think Aquafina is the person. Well, she induces the panic attacks Nora takes them. So. Kind of abject confidence that people I think you you outgrown adulthood, okay? Grew up in Forestville, queens. You did you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. My I actually my my husband's aunt lives there now. Oh, great. Everyone has an aunt everyone always enhance kind of kind of an angry aunt that lives in Brazil. So what kind of kid were you? I was a weird kid Marilyn. I was a weird kid. Yeah. I were an one sweatsuits all the time. Like every function lied to weddings until the until I was like twenty four and. But now, everyone knows you from oceans eight so you are cast in this movie with obviously huge names, you've got Helena Bonham Carter, Sandra. Bullock, Cate Blanchet Anne Hathaway riana, Sarah, Paulson, Mindy Ceylan, and you and me, and I was I read somewhere that. You're part was written for you yet. So did you flaunt that around the set? Now. How would do I was like you see these pages? Did these are my for you or attached? It is line of mine. I had done a movie called dude that was written directed by levian milch. She later went on to co write and co-produce oceans, Gary Rossa director saw a rough cut of dude and hire me on FaceTime. So that's how that that hired you FaceTime. That's amazing Paresh there because it's like, maybe he has no idea that I. You know that I don't know what how I'm doing. So now, but then you arrive onset arrived onset, yes instantly, embraced instantly, and embraced. Yeah. No. The first time I met any of them. I I was a Helena Bonham Carter. I saw her sitting yonder and other hotel. And so, you know, staring at her and she just went like come and give me how. Yeah. So that's how it went. You know, we're we're like a family. They're amazing. Yeah. And your role, of course, as the pickpocket and you trained with the magician. I did I did it out with. So this fascinates me. Because this sounds very fun was did you enjoy it or you're like oh God. I got a practice. He ruined everything for me did hit. No. He really did. Because then I'd be like, oh, David Blaine uses invisible ink. Sorry. So it was cool. I, you know, three card Monty is what we primarily trained in. And I could people one that. So you're in not one but two blockbuster films also star in crazy, rich, Asians, Kevin Coombs. Yeah. This is the adaptation of Kevin Kwan's bestselling novel trilogy. But the first one by the same name crazy rich agents, and it's a big deal to because it's an all Asian cast. The first time this has happened in twenty five years of filmmaking. So what was it like? Yeah. What does it mean to you to be part of this it meant a lot when we were filming it? I think I realized that we were doing something they're bigger than ourselves. And. When it comes to representation, you don't understand how much you're lacking it until you see it. And when I saw the movie man, I it was it was so powerful. It was a powerful experience. I think that I was looking for this move. And when I was a kid and the way that it handles the Asian experience is like no other film I've ever seen. It's an epic rom com. And it it means a lot. This is a huge success story. Not that you didn't have great plans because in high school, you were playing trumpet. Yeah. That would've been even better. I would have been in pay like in The Lion King or something like that. Not even not even be cleaning the. Yeah. When did you make the turn highschool trumpet player to rapper? I I just heard that back. That back for the for the first time. Artists fluid. I. I mean, I still I still love the Trump trumpet. I love that you play still now. Now. You know, what it's like wins? Yeah. But you know, I I picked up garage band when I was sixteen. I had my first MAC that's where I started losing. My first beats and. Aquafina kinda was born out of that. And yeah. Yeah. I'm good goodbye. Trump grad, so the big viral video the Big Hat minded bad. Oh, I. I like that. This is a favorite song of your grandma's. Right. Yes. She loves she loves it favors. He uses it to torture me. Because she's like this is like your best song like go. Why haven't any of your songs is good? And then I realized like the song not she's talking about. So. Yeah, she again what the what the mean age. Yeah. She loves it. She loves that song. So this goes viral do things happen, right? You you throw this video out, which is great video. I mean low budget because you didn't have a lot of money. It is way slow badge for sure. And and then people embrace it as like a feminist handsome. Yeah. You probably didn't intend that now I didn't intend it to get more than thirty views. My entire family. The only comment is like my aunt. She's like good job nor. You know, I thought that's where it would be. Yeah. Yeah. No idea huge success from at also at the same time. You get fired from your job, it it leads directly to you being fired. It was it was part of it. Yeah. I was also terrible lab. My job was a publicity assistant. I know idea what I was doing. I would just mail things out. I'd be like, I just see I'm Lopes. I'm a Lopes in male. Now, that's all I would do. And I like that life. You know, what I mean, it wasn't bad. And then I made the video on my birthday, and my boss is lovely. She's a lovely woman. I think I was really bad my job. But she was like, what did you read? They and I was like watching videos like, oh, I didn't do music what you'll call my badge. Okay. Yeah. Were you like oh my God. I lost my job. Or did. You think this is fantastic. Now. I was freaking out. And I was horrified. Yeah. I was. Yeah. I was I was I didn't know what to do. You know what I mean? Like for me being an artist is is a privilege. You know, it's not something that you can just say, well, I'm going to do this and not have any funds funds to float you a lot of people don't have that. I came to a point in my life where I had to make a choice. I knew that. If I once I pressed this published button, there was a chance that I could never ever get a nine to five job ever again. Because all it takes us one Google search. And then that that comes off. Sure. And so I knew that there was no turning back. But I never gonna lose. That's one the best things happen to lose. Yep. Yep. All right. So you've got an all female heist movie role down. You've got an all Asian cast Rome cone movie rule down any other ground. You would like to k. Maybe maybe like an all cross eyed cast or something like that. I have a slight astigmatism, and I feel like we should do a movie with that we can see in all directions. I can see. I see you, sir. All right. Are you ready for an ask me another Choon? Okay. Okay. So Aquafina a few years ago, you rode a travel guide to New York City. One of the biggest challenges that most New Yorkers face is figuring out where to go to the bath. Yes. So in this game, I'm going to read you an excerpt from your list of the ten most pleasurable public restroom Manhattan is that what how I wrote it the most pleasurable. Based on you, not remembering the title. I'm not sure how well you'll do. Okay. Let's do it. And you you just have to remember. Of course, what bathroom you were writing about? If you do well enough listener eat so Marquez from Tucson Arizona will win and ask me and other rubik's cow. Get it. Yeah. Here's your first review the best part of taking care of business. Here is that it's open twenty four hours a day. Oh, man. Bryant park. Oh, no, no now Bryant park. These are all other great answers. No. All right. Here's a hint. You don't have to be a genius. What? You can also chaired your phone and gets free wifi dabble start apple the apple store. Yeah. The apple store twenty four hours. Twenty four hours. That's pretty good. All right. We got two more. You're doing great. I'm no, I'm not. But it's fine. It's okay. If you catch it before it turns into a dress barn. Please. Make sure you poop in it. Brian. I mean, this is actually so funny because probably when you wrote us there is more of these. But it's like don't couple of these left Walworth. Is there a Woolworth? I don't know. Is there say say a Sears robot? This. Bookstore. Barnes and noble Barnes and noble ale day. I really did. Write the book y'all by the way, just side note from my light Barnes and noble bathrooms. I got married at city hall. I changed into my wedding dress in the Barnes and noble bathroom. That's all right. This is your last clue. Okay guy. I feel really great about this. This bathroom is in the middle of a busy tourist area in midtown. An avenue east of Times Square a few blocks south of Rockefeller Center. And almost always has an attendant. Got a lifeline. Yes. You do. I do. Yeah. With what's the answer that you've thought it was the entire time. And I keep saying no, it's not that. No. It's not that. Congratulations. Thank you listener eat so Marquez, both one ask me. Another rubik's congratulate. Aquafina stars in crazy, rich, Asians. Give it up. One or next special guests to play for you follow ask me, another on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Our next game is about useless things. You learned in school like cursive, the Dewey decimal system and how to conceal a Hickey. It's green shadow kids. Let's meet our contestants. I AP Rebecca bats in your moving to Colorado in a matter of days. Six days to be exact all right? I'm counting. Well, hello. Nice to see you here. Hey, so when you ring in we're going to hear this Rebecca your goal is to own earth ship house, tell us about what those are. It's literally the most amazing house. It's forty five percent recycled materials like beer, cans and tires and sand and all off grid and grows its own food. Right. And you're one hundred percent sustainable. Yeah. Right. Well, I'm glad we caught you while you're still on grid. Got you. Got you. Your opponent is Maggie, Lloyd. You're a civil rights advocate high. Hey. We knew ring in. We're going to hear this. Maggie you. You have a lot of pen pals. What are we talking right now? I have like four pen pals, and my longest running pen pal. We've been pen pals for fourteen years now, I was in her wedding two years ago. And how did you originally become pen pals, what was the connection we live two hours away from each other which pre cell phone was insurmountable, and we met competing against each other. When we were both riding ponies. Of course, crowding it's very nice. My main pen pal calls, it a diary that writes back which is I highly recommend to everyone should get right now. It's like a blog for one person. Okay. Remember, Rebecca, Maggie, whoever has more points after two games. We'll go to our final round. Let's go to your first game called subject to dispute we're going to give you a term that you probably learned in school. But may not remember what it means because it has no practical use in your day to day life. You tell me its definition, but just like in school these questions are multiple choice. So ring into answer. Here we go. Is Carrie nation. A prohibitionist who smashed up saloons with a hatchet? Be the original title for Thomas pains commonsense or see a ship that followed the Mayflower full of people who were spiritual but not religious. Maggie. I'm going to go with a a prohibitionist that is correct. Yes. She would inter bars instead of destroying them with a hatchet while singing hymns choose a fund drunk. It's fun. The critical period is that a band coming of age novel about a young girl who thinks she might be pregnant. But it turns out she's in the clear. Be a condescending punctuation Mark or see a developmental phase. When behaviors neuroses and awkward, but charming social flaws. Get locked in. Rebecca, I'm going to go. See? Yeah. See is. Correct. That's when they get locked in the critical period. Is smoot-hawley a tariff act signed by president Hoover be the Lewis and Clark of Alaska or see variety of tobacco discontinued for not being addictive enough. Maggie. I'm going to go with the see the addictive tobacco. It's pretty messed up industry. It does seem like something. They would do doesn't it. That is incorrect. I'm sorry. Rebecca, can you steal? It. Just sounds like it would be so much fun. If they were the Lewis and Clark of Alaska, so I'm going to go with that one. It would be a real hoot. But that is also incorrect. Was terific signed by president Hoover, at least fun. Least financer is the most correct. Is SU Tonia the word for phonetically pleasing phrase like cellar door be a Roman town gossip who wrote about Colella or see a triangle with four sides Maggie town gossip town gossip wrote about curricula that is correct. Yeah. Although I love the idea of I don't know there's probably there is a word phonetically pleasing phrase. I like cellar door cellar, doors phonetically pleasing, wouldn't you say, it's a very pleasant very murmur. That's another good murmur murmur that's financially pleasing free wine. All things I want. All right. This is your last clue is no nothing. A the philosophy empty your head to for your thoughts. Be the political party of ex president Millard Fillmore or see the standard these days. Maggie. I'm gonna go with the political party. That is correct. It's refreshing that they lead with no nothing. They were. They were honest to they were on. All right. What a fun game. You were both very very smart Maggie. You are in the lead. You know, it's easy to show off your body. But it's hard to flaunt your mind. So if you wish there were yoga pants for your brain. You should be a contestant on ask me, another just go to AMA tickets dot org coming up. We'll meet Sasha velour who wants season nine of rupaul drag race. You know, so many people I know love that show everyone in my accountant my babysitter. My neighbor, Paul Manafort. I'm off your Eisenberg. And this is asked me another from NPR. Support for NPR. And the following message comes from ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. Ziprecruiter's powerful matching technology finds the right people for you. So you aren't overwhelmed with tons of resumes. Plus ZipRecruiter, actively invites the top candidates to apply. That's why ZipRecruiter is rated number one by employers in the US based on hiring sites on trust pilot with over one thousand reviews, try it for free by going to ZipRecruiter dot com slash another. As soon as you wake up, you need the latest. That's why up I is here. It's NPR's morning news podcast in just ten minutes. Or so you can start your day informed. Listen to up first on the NPR one app or wherever you get your podcasts. This is NPR's asked me another. I'm Jonathan Colton. Now. Here's your host fear Eisenberg. Before the break, we met our contestants, Rebecca and Maggie. Our next game is a music parody about banned books and the points are doubled. Maggie. You are in the lead. Rebecca, you need to catch up or you have to read a book. Don't you threaten me? The big one. We changed the lyrics of the Paul McCartney and wings song band on the run to be about books that we're famous banned censored or challenged at some point in the United States, according to the American Library association, so just ringing and give me the title of the book. Are you ready? Yes. Living here in west. Got my days. Written by fits. The dream. Boom. Rebecca, the great Gatsby. That's correct. Nothing like being in public school and reading a book about rich people who are saying. Will live Bama with my brother. Jim. That's all you get. Maggie Taylor Mockingbird to kill a Mockingbird. That's. Not so fun. He's a team depressed with phone s. Do you hate Sada everyone to him where the ducks? The ducks. Catcher in the rye. Vinnie high schoolers are listening the ducks represent Holden, Caufield childlike innocence. Where do they go and go when it gets cold? Go to one place. It's fun. This is your last very depressing clue. The one. One. Rebecca, nineteen Eighty-four. True. The ministry of truth says both of you were fantastic fantastic. Congratulations maggie. You are going to our final round. Maggie get ready for the final round. Let's welcome. Our next special guest. She's a winner of Rupe Paul's drag race season nine say Hello to Sasha velour. Home. Now, our listening audience cannot take you in visually. So I feel like it's necessary for us to describe what you are wearing. Let's do a I would say so it is a jewelled very, shiny silver. Mermaid, the ideas a sort of crown, but as a dress a crowded, yeah, it's got big Jim's on it and lots of pearls Mary. It's what Queen NAS for two whereas to her daughters, lesbian, summer weather. And for those people who watch drag race, and that is all they know of drag. What are they missing that? They should know. Oh my goodness. Well, so when you go to drug show, you can see anything imaginable. Drag is just the idea that the clothes that we're told we have to wear are just the beginning of it. And you go from there from putting on something that you think maybe forbid in our someone once told you is forbidden, and you take that. And you let transform yourself into a whole possibility of person possibility of job of an identity of gender of name, and you take that on wear it. You know, people are so serious about ourselves. Yeah. And drag suggests that maybe it's all just a bunch of ideas, and we can be a little bit more flexible with them. So so first of all anyone can do drag. Absolutely. Anyone can and must. You also shave your head do everyday bald J memory day every day. But you sport that for very specific reason, can you tell us about that. My mother had cancer for the last five years of her life, and she was completely bald. It was something we talked about a lot because she was worried about how should be received out in the world as a bald woman when femininity and hair are so significantly tied culturally and she decided to just not worry about other people's comfort or other people's expectations and rock her beautiful bald head every single day out on the streets. And I thought that to me is just the essence of beauty our and I want to rock that in my own life. Okay. So your winning performance in the finale of season nine drag race. So just to set it up the song is Whitney Houston's so emotional. You do a series of escalating reveals right? You take off long gloves. No rose petals. Lori grows. Pileups I'm at home. And also, your performance was very emotional. It wasn't a just a series of in. I'm not putting this down like dance moves because the people that can't do. And then the final reveal is to take off the wig and rose petals fall out basically show your shaved head now prior to that on ripples drag race. I believe the rule light rule was that you can only remove awake. If there's another way underneath. So would you this was a subversive act on your part? Well, I thought all had a pass on that rule because I had a full head of foundation under that. Seems like a lot more work to apply than the little kitty wig, right? I love those Whigs. I didn't mean it like. I've done that reveal many times as well. Instead, I had like the entirety of my goals craft store grows puddle department, stuffed under my hair. Just the wig was really tenuously holding onto my head at the time over all those thankfully stayed on. Until just the perfect moment to come out. And I wanted to capture the increasing tension of that song when you are feeling emotions about love or heartbreak or anything like that escalates. And so I had to have the rose puddles escalate as well. And they did. Now, again, maybe this is just my interpretation. But I also felt it was a moment of this is my offensive self that is coming through the sort of performance of drag. It was like a little extra window was that is that me interpreting or is that was from the very beginning drugs. Been an outlet that I come to hurt and pain and insecurity from my life. And I transformed those feelings into something really over the top that gives me strength, and that number in particular. I thought about times I felt pain like that. And I wanted to transform it into something really real. So there was a lot of truth on a lot of my biography, performance interesting, and as a form of expression as you've explored it over the years. What would you say it gives to you? It gives you confidence and power. You know, there's so many voices that tell people especially queer people that they don't have importance in regarding on the world and drag is about a certain thing. Your power and your brilliance and your important sometimes way too ridiculous. But somehow it's infectious because when a room like this is supporting you to the extent with love and encouragement like you got to drag show, you really do feel invincible every person deserves to feel that great. Sasha. Are you ready for another challenge of the Louis? You can play one of our favorite guessing games this that or the other please welcome back your opponent for this game. Aquafina? All right FINA. Sasha one thing rampers and drag performers have in common is awesome stage names. So when this rapid fire game, I'm going to say you name you're just gonna tell me is it a rap name a drag name or the name of an off brand soda. We're gonna go back and forth. So no need to ring in. Let's start with you Aquafina. Yes. Laguna blue blue spelled B O rapid Dame drag name or soda got to be a soda. Like made up of all the other sodas. Yeah. Sounds like actually taste it right now. Drag name. Sparky be sashes sparky be rally. Soda barky. Name rap name is curious. Described as the wacky white boy on the planet. Let's up that set in for a second. Fina. Dr perky. Soda. Yeah. Sasha twist like twist with an odd twist who's. Who? Sounds like a delicious off brand soda. A rap name. Draft soda. Rap. Name twist. Okay here. Your last two clues Aquafina Roxie pops. Soda. Bryant park. You are. Correct. Runty hops is a drag name. Okay. And sasha. He haw. God, please be drag name. I know I wish to that's a soda. Soda. That's that's an offer end mountain dew. Oh, call the Higa. Also, another one in that same is, a Kickapoo joy, juice. My that's definitely a drag Queen. Let me hit one. All right. It's a tie. Which I guess in this game means you both once -gratulations on the feta. I should lower the winner of rupaul drag receives and nine and hosts they monthly dreg showcase called nightgowns. Give it up for Sasha, lower and Aquafina. It's time to Krant our big winner. Let's bring back. Our finalists Hannah Margolin who was a nine year old ice cream thief and Maggie Loyd. Who says I pen pal is like a diary that writes back. Maggie and Hannah, your final round is cold emojis. Louise in this round every answer is also emoji. According to the unit code consortium. Our big winner will receive an ask me the rubik's cube. But signed by Aquafina and Sasha velour we rolled a twenty sided die backstage and Maggie is going. I here we go. Maggie this nineteen ninety film starred Patrick Swayze. Demi Moore and a pottery wheel. Dirty dancing. I'm sorry. That is incorrect. The answer was ghost Hannah SE Zoya, Deborah Lippmann, and China glaze all manufacturer this colorful beauty product now polish. That is correct Maggie two versions of this famous. Edvard Mook piece were stolen from art museums. But later recovered scream that is correct Hannah read, Admiral, zebra, swallowtail and blue morph, oh are all types of this creature. Butterfly that as Maggie all-rounder bowler. Wicket end night watchman are terms associated with this sport. Surfing. Good. Guess I'm sorry. That is incorrect. The answer was cricket Hannah at the two thousand sixteen summer Olympics. The United States beat Italy in the women's final of this aquatic sport. Utter below that is correct. Megi the title of best selling children's book by Tero. Go me declares that everyone. Does this poops? That is correct Hannah. This is the official state fruit of Georgia. No buts about it peach. That is correct Maggie. If you get this question wrong Hannah wins Maggie this US military medal honors personnel wounded or killed in combat purple heart. That is correct Hannah. If you get this, right? You win Karen carpenter and Meg white both famously played this instrument. Three seconds, piano. Sorry. That is correct. The answer is drums. We're on the last question for each of you. All right. Maggie you need to get this one right to stay in the game. Lady. Justice is often depicted holding a sword in one hand, and this device in the other scales balance scales. That is correct Hannah. If you get this, right? You win the original version of clue contained six weapons the lead pipe candlestick, rope, knife, revolver and this. Is there a hatchet? I love that game of clue. That is incorrect we were looking for ranch. So we're going to tiebreaker. Here we go. Here's your tiebreaker. Leonard nimoy says he based this hand gesture off of a blessing performed at an orthodox synagogue. Maggie the peace sign that is incorrect Hannah. Can you steal? It's the live long and prosper thing. Yes. That is correct. You guys not how to create tension. Well done. Thank you so much Maggie and congratulations Hannah. That's our show. Ask me another house musician Jonathan Coulton. Hey, my name anagrams, thou jolted cannon are puzzles ridden by Madeleine Kaplan, Scott Ross senior writers Eric Feinstein and Karen Lori with additional material by Emily winter. Our senior supervising producer is Rachel Neil. Ask me another is produced by Sylvie. Douglas, Mike cats. Travis large Chuck Kiara Powell, Danny shin. Ramal would end our intern Georgia right gig. I r- along with Steve Nelson and on your grandma, and we are recorded by Damon more, Rick Juan and David hurricane. We'd like to thank our home. In Brooklyn, New York. The bell house fuel blues and our live events sponsor curiosity stream and our production partner. WNYC? I'm a ripe begonias is. This was asked me another from NPR. Happy to hear you're still listening. And since you're still here why not pop overdue apple podcasts. And write us a review we love to hear from you. And it helps others find out about our show. For additional information about new episodes upcoming live shows roadshows and bonus games. Follow us on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. Thanks. Next time on asked me another rupaul drag race season eight winner. Bob the drag Queen and season. Ten contestant Mona exchange. They share their experiences competing in the Olympics of drag plus a music parody game where we rewrite classic rock songs to be about what colleges refer to as classics. So join me off your eyes on NPR's. Our puzzles games and trivia. Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Comcast business having the nation's largest gig speed network was just the start. Now, they're providing gig fueled apps and solutions that exceed expectations and help businesses perform Comcast business beyond fast.
Ask Me Another