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The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Well, I went big on Pittsburgh before the year and bet on them a bunch of times in the first 10 weeks. And it was always, why don't they play Jalen Brown's game? And the whole time, I'm like, holy shit, I hope they don't realize they're, to give the ball to Jalen Bournoir. Either way, it's whatever side you're on, it's so clear that he's the best offensive player they have. I do think Pickett, I'm like Pickett's last defender. I'm a defender. I do think he throws a nice 30-yard ball down the sidelines. And I don't, I don't think that's going to help. And with him, it's, he's good at kind of scrambling around and buying himself time. And he's good at throwing that one pass to Pickens. I think Friar Muth coming back, I think that's going to help. Like I do, I do think there's a world where he gets rejuvenated because their offense, how many times can you run a bubble screen that gets tackled behind the line of scrimmage? How many times can you run a screen pass where there's seven guys where the guy catching the screen passes? You know, it was like just basic shit where it's like, what was that play? Yeah, we know it's second and eight. You're going to run. Like they know, they know you're going to run. That's why they have eight guys there. There was just no imagination, play action stuff, anything. I thought it was dumbfounding. I mean, I feel like it was a lack of imagination. And that was like, anybody who's watched the offense, it's like this offense lacks creativity. We're seeing other offensive coordinators do so much cooler shit with their offenses. And I think the other thing was confidence. Like you on third and long, it was bubble screen. It was not pushing the ball downfield. If it was pushing the ball downfield, it was in a vertical route, isolated to Pickens and one-on-one situation. Like they did not trust him or Canada specifically did not trust Pickett to throw the ball downfield and read the read the defense. I think he's going to get that opportunity now. And like for me, I don't know if it's, you know, maybe there is like a starting caliber quarterback in Kenny Pickett or, you know, that's that you could develop him into. I just don't think it's worth it with where the league is going and what you can go get, what you have to go get. But they're six and four. They're probably going to win this week. You know, they're favored this week. They could be seven and four as bad as Pickett's been. I don't know. I make this joke all the time, but I thought Baltimore really stumbled into something 10, nine, 10 years ago with Flacco where they're like, Flacco is not that good, but we're just going to have him chuck it down the field. And either there'll be a PI or somebody will catch it or be incomplete. Like the only bad version of it is an interception. But then that's basically a punt. And that with Pittsburgh, like you can make a case, just throw it to Pickens five times a game, 40 yards downfield and two of those five passes, something good will happen, which is better than what your offense is. And then the Jalen Warren piece. I have a nerd out for you. Yes. I have a hot take. That play that Valdez Gantling dropped to decide the Monday night game. I watch football every week for 13 hours a day. I think 50 percent of the receivers in the league who are a top three receiver for their team would have dropped that pass. Wow. Really? Yeah. Really? I watch people drop that pass all the time. It's a hard catch. You're running full speed. You're running like a four four. You're outdoors. It's raining. You got lights. You're looking up. It's got to be perfect. You got to catch it. You're worried the guy's going to hit you as you're catching it. Nobody in the Pats could have made that catch. I watch the Pats every week, nobody in the Pats. I think Garrett Wilson, he would have made it. You go through the best receivers in the league. Both Miami guys would have made it. But I think there's only like 25 guys in the league that would have easily made that catch. There's a couple of people who might have juggled it and held on. But I think that catch is harder than people realize. And we all sit on our couch and we're like, oh, he should have had it. Oh, it hit his hands. Oh, here's the that's a hard catch. My gut reaction was like, no way. I think maybe that number is 60 percent or 70 percent. But I think the bigger problem is here's the bigger number. Zero percent of the Chiefs receivers make that catch like that. That's the problem. Like the problem, you know, people want to say is drops and all that stuff like that. I think they lead the league in drops now. The Kansas City Chiefs do like the problem is, is we saw this week one and they did nothing about it. Like I honestly feel that you cannot blame that loss on the receivers. You have to blame that loss on whoever's making the roster decisions in Kansas City, not making a play to go get a guy, like go get a guy or make maybe pay more for Odell Beckham Jr. in the off season, pay more for DeAndre Hopkins in the off season, because this isn't good enough. Justin Watson's not good enough. Sky Moore has not lived up to what we wanted him to be coming out of the second round of Western Michigan. Marcus Valdes scaling is clearly not good enough as the most drops on downfield passes of any receiver in the league. This is not on them anymore. Like, fool me once. Shame on you. Fool me twice. It's shame on me. Like the Chiefs failed to add enough talent either in the off season or after they found out week one that these receivers are going to be a problem. And now they're going to make the postseason. They maybe don't have the first round by, which is a problem. They're going to have to go three games with those receivers, with the volatility of those drops. Like, I don't know if they make it through that gauntlet. I've been saying this all season. It happened in 2006, Pats. They were able to get to the AFC championship game and then they couldn't get the big third down when they needed it. But it was Caldwell and Jabbar Gaffney and Daniel Graham and they just didn't have the guys. Here's the thing that I think people forget with the Chiefs. You can only pay so many guys. Nobody ever makes this point, right? Mahomes is the most expensive QB in the league. Travis Kelce, although they have him on a pretty good contract, but he's still super expensive. They just paid Chris Jones. You go look at their spot track. Justin Reed's making like 13 million a year. Joe Tooney's making like, I think 13 or 14. Like at some point, something's got to give. You can't pay for everything. You can't have a good offensive line. You can't have Chris Jones. You can't have Kelce. You can't have Mahomes. Like you're going to have to try to get lucky. The big mistake is they paid Valdez Gantling 11 million a year, which seems like that 11 to 15 million range for receivers seems to be like the death range. That's where you get like Juju Smith-Schuster and you get, you know, the Pats paying Nelson Aguilar a couple of years ago. And it's just, you're paying money, but the guy's not totally reliable. I think what they tried to do was they were hoping Rishi Rice. They were hoping Sky Moore. These guys that, these young guys that they were invested in, they just haven't come through. I actually liked Rice. I wish they would throw him the ball more, but I just don't think people understand. It's really hard to pay everybody. Kelce is supposed to be their main guy and he couldn't get open last night. I think another roster decision that still pains them is drafting Clyde Edwards-Hilaire over T. Higgins and drafting, even just a running back or any of those receivers that were going to be available to them at the back end of that first round. Like he's not even, he's not even like a rotational player for the team. I know he had like a couple carries, but Clyde Edwards-Hilaire, when he was drafted, I remember so many draft analysts are like, he's the missing piece of the offense. That's the only thing they needed. You lose Tyreek Hill and now Clyde Edwards-Hilaire with every pick they had. And I love what they've done on the defense. Leo Chenal, Billy Gay, they've added a lot of talent there, but any offensive player you picked better have been a tackle or a receiver because you are going to pay Mahomes a lot of money. You're gonna pay Kelce a lot of money. And on then you had Tyreek Hill on the books. Like to me, drafting and running back then is going to haunt them in this window for quite a bit. Well, we'll see. You can't pay everyone and Kelce, everyone's like, they have no receivers. They have Travis Kelce. He's, he's basically a receiver. It's not like he's Rob Gronkowski in the mid 2010s, but I think they were hoping Rice more, and then they missed on Valdez-Ganley, but I still stand by my statement. I think, I don't know if half the receivers don't drop that pass, but I just think it's a harder. Serruti, what do you think before we go? I think you're insane. You think I'm insane? Let's hear the case. I mean, listen, I'm not going to be like, hey, I was good when I was 18 years old, but man, like a high school kid makes that catch. You're just running straight. You said, okay. You said, okay. You said, you know, he's waiting to get hit, man. He catches that. And he's in the end zone. Like it's over. That's it. And like, all right. The conditions are the conditions, but man, they brought this guy in as a free agent. That's like, his one thing is he's a deep threat. Catch the ball. People drop that pass every week on every TV. Somebody's dropping that pass. I don't know. I honestly, I honestly felt too, like the ball tracking of that, like his, him getting two hands on that was kind of impressive since it was kind of overhead in the life. He's flying. I don't know. I felt like he got a bad rap last night. I felt bad for him. That's all. Well, if he had made the catch, it would have been amazing. How about that? People would have been like, oh my God, what a catch. The commentators would be like, that's a handoff. You can't do it better than that. You know, like you, you can't handle it. Like I feel like all the love would have been on Mahomes. It'd have been like an experience. So you hit Mahomes, throw it a little bit better. Maybe throw it a little closer to him. That's what I'm asking though. So Mahomes is like, oh yeah, I could have like threw it a little bit less. He's a hundred percent just taking the bullet there. There's no way he actually believes that. That was a perfect throw. No, he doesn't believe that. He doesn't believe that. Mahomes is a standup guy. He's not blaming guys. I like it. I like Mahomes. Sorry. I think Mahomes is good now. Listen, Valdez Scantling is a backup receiver and that would have been an incredible catch. And I'm sorry, but I watch football every week and guys drop that. Quentin Johnson, last, last, last Sunday, like easy catch, right? These guys always freaking screw this up. Anyway. All right. Austin Gale. Great to see you. Thanks for, thanks for coming out. Absolutely. Thank you.All right. That's it for part one of the special holiday extravaganza. Thanks to Steve Cerruti and Kyle Creighton. Thanks to Austin and to Derek and to Kevin O'Connor. Don't forget for part two coming late night, Tuesday night, we're going to be talking to NBA with Rob Mahoney and we're going to do a million dollar picks with Dangerous Danny Kelly, who brought us home undefeated last week. 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"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"The Chiefs look sloppy to me. Like Special Teams was always a place that, you know, they had a good kicker, a good punter. They always like made shit happen. And this year it's been pretty sloppy for them. Well, the sounding cap takes a little bit of that into account, right? Everybody cheats the salary cap on Special Teams. You know, look, let's be honest here. I mean, how did Kansas City win a Super Bowl last year? With Special Teams, the return by Sky Moore and the return by Kadarius Toney in the Super Bowl. Toney and Moore in the championship game. Couple more possible climbers. And I don't even feel good about these. But the Giants are two and six and should be four and four. Right, they should be four and four. Like they should have beaten the Jets. And they should have beaten Buffalo, right? So they're two and six, but really should be four and four. They're playing Vegas, Dallas, and Washington on the road, New England at home, bye week, Green Bay at home, New Orleans, Philly, Rams, and then Philly again. So the catch would be, well, they're playing Philly twice though. And they can't go past eight wins. All right, so we'll cross them off. I agree with you. I wanted to talk it out. I mean, I have them in my category. They should play for a draft pick. Like I think they're not gonna do it, but they should play for a draft. Like to me, I have them as, when I rank them, I think, look, they gotta play. Now, they're not gonna draft a quarterback because they still believe in Daniel Jones. But they should play for a draft pick. Because look, they're not gonna beat Philly. They're not gonna beat Dallas. And so to me, if you're the seventh seed, it's almost like if I were the seventh seed in the NFC, I might want to decline it. Like six, seven, somebody else, I don't want to. It would be funny if they gave the teams the choice. You could either have the 10th pick in the draft or the seventh seed. See what they take. Yeah, it's like all these people will say, the Raiders, they inherited a playoff team. They won three games down the stretch. The Raiders haven't been to a conference championship game since 2002, they haven't had a history. So when you take over a team that's won, that's not really winning. The Giants were in it last year, but that really wasn't. I mean, they got blown out by every good team they played. They're not gonna beat anybody good. I think the Giants are, actually, if they played the Rams, if they played the Rams in the Meadowlands, what do you think the line would be? Rams by three. That's what I would think too, right? And yet, we're sitting here talking about the Giants can make the playoffs. I'm so proud of you. I remember the days when you didn't even understand what a line was and how to factor it. What does that mean? What is the tease? Now you're just rattling off picks. Now I make my own lines, now I make my own lines. Now you got your Lombardi line. Green Bay two and six who traded their cornerback to get today and Jordan Love looks like he's... No chance. Maybe doesn't have it. Yeah, we're crossing them off. Bears two and six, schedule's pretty easy, but I just can't imagine Fields getting to eight wins. So they're a cross off. Carolina one and six? They've been pretty good at home, but I'm gonna go no chance too. I liked them this week. I took them on Russo because they were good at home. I mean, that's the key, but that was an ugly game. And Frank Wright, every decision he makes is the wrong one.
The MMQB NFL Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Another team that we're looking at here, the Jaguars. I mean, if you want to be considered class of the NF or the AFC, you probably got to make some moves here. I think that pass rusher makes a lot of sense for them because then all of a sudden you can let Trayvon Walker do what he's better at, which I think is being everywhere instead of right now, he's just sort of fledgling a little bit. So they did have some talks with Jacksonville and have had some talks with Jacksonville or, um, with Minnesota about Daniel Hunter. Um, he would be an interesting name for me. You mentioned Uche earlier, I believe, right? I like him. I like him in Jacksonville. Jos Uche would be an interesting fit there, but I'm with you. Like, I think, I think they're close enough where it's like, if you can add a pressure player on defense. Um, yeah, you feel pretty good about where you are going into the AFC playoffs. They're six and two now, I believe. Right. Yeah. Cause you can't, you can't do nothing. Right. I mean, if you're them, you can't, you can't do nothing. And so I think that cause you, you, you gotta, you gotta show them too that, Hey, we're, we're all in with you guys. Yeah. We went on the big winning streak. We're ripping off these games. Now it's time to win some games. The chiefs are another one where like everyone's like, when are they going to get the wide receiver? I don't know if they ever will, but you know, you lose to the Broncos on Sunday because Patrick Mahomes just can't find a guy to throw through too. And when Travis Kelsey's bought bottled up, there's no one else in that offense that he trusts. Yeah. I feel like they, um, it's really, they're banking on the development of Sky Moore and Rashi Rice now, and those are two guys in their, in their defense that they've invested pretty high end draft capital in like, you know, second round picks each of the last two years. And they really need those guys to come along. And so to me, like if I'm the chiefs, my thought right now is I have to be really honest with myself about where those two players are. And I think that that, that dictates where you're going, right? Cause you know what you have in Valdez, Gantling, you know what you have in Hardman coming back and he had the big turnover yesterday, but. Um, you have to be honest with yourself about those young guys and whether or not those young guys are going to be in a position to help you. Like you, like you thought they would be, um, when you get to January. Yeah. Um, Cleveland is another one where you, you have to, you have to come up with some sort of plan, your whole, everything hinged on you winning. Now this was supposed to be the year. The defense is a top five unit, even though I think that they're kind of, they've taken a step back in the last couple of weeks and they've, and teams have figured out how to, they're still really good. They're still really good though. Exactly. And so I, do you allow, um, and you can tell my dog, my Terrier Ernie, he agrees with me. Um, he was a one time member of the dog pound. Do you, can you tell, or can you look at yourself and be like, eh, Deshaun will be fine when he gets back or we can still win games of PJ Walker. So are you saying like you tried to get Jacoby Brissett back? Yeah. Or Josh Dobbs, like if Kyler Murray's healthy, you know, just give him, give him the pick back, you know, pretend it never happened. I don't know. Yeah. I basically like, will that be like an eight game rental? I like the idea of Brissett going back there. Cause I think Brissett to me had such valuable experience last year navigating a really tricky situation and being able to get himself through what, I mean, was thorny in a million different ways. And if you remember, like part of that is because he was there in new England during Brady's suspension and how weird that was in that quarterback room, you know? So this is a guy who's a really good, I think, borderline starting level quarterback, like probably just below that line, but a guy who has instant respect in your locker room because he was there last year and has navigated tricky, tricky situations in the past and knows the way a locker room works. So he's going to have like the emotional intelligence to make sure that he's not screwing anything up when it comes to Deshaun Watson as he goes and does his job. And so I, I wasn't huge on this a couple of weeks ago, but as the Watson situation has kind of gotten weirder and weirder, it makes sense to me to go and get Brissett back.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I think if they could change it, they would. Like, oh, this should be worth more than a field goal. It feels like it should be worth four points. Vegas, some good stats from this game. Vegas is somehow three and three. You tell me how that happened. I think they said they were- The first time they scored 20 points, right? Yeah, because of the safety. They got to 19, and then they got a safety, and Garoppolo's been hurt twice now. He had to go to the hospital again. Mac Jones, 0-13 in his last 13 as an underdog, which almost seems like a made-up stat, but it's actually real. There's only three AFC teams with a losing record. New England and Denver are 1-5, and Tennessee's 2-4. Everyone else is 500 or better. Well, I think AFC was like 6-0 against the NFC today. So that's something to keep in mind, yeah. Twitter account, good Boston account, at bostonsportsinfo. The Patriots have only led 15.5% of the time this season. 84.5% of the time, they've either been losing or the game's been tied. And that includes the first few minutes of the game when it's always tied. So 1-6 of the time, they've had a lead. Good, good to see you, Mac, good. Belichick, who's still at 3-30, well behind Don Shula, he is now eight behind Tom Landry for most losses ever. Oh, wow. He might get most losses ever before he gets most wins ever. Interesting. Did you know that? I didn't know that till today. No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Wait a minute, because that, yeah. Landry at 178, he's got 170 now. All right, so just know it's not personal when I continue to root against the Patriots. I just gotta save my boy Tom here. Well, so there's six teams with zero or one wins. Carolina, Denver, New England, Chicago, Arizona, and the Giants. The NFL trade deadline is on Halloween. I would say Denver and the Pats are probably gonna be the most aggressive for, does anyone want a couple of our good players? Arizona, I don't know how many good players they have. But I didn't know this. Our buddy Gus texted me this. Maybe I knew this and forgot. The Pats and Denver play on Christmas Eve. Oh, wow. And I think Tanka Claus is gonna be coming down the chimney for one of those teams. I don't know what's gonna happen, but that could determine. Is that the Tom Landry game? Maybe that's the Tom Landry game. Who passes Tom Landry? But yeah, Pats, Denver on Christmas Eve. So if you had to say, who's gonna have the worst record in the league, who would you say? Well, these Panthers are pretty uninspiring, I have to say. They don't move the ball at all. They took the 14-0 lead and still somehow didn't cover. Yeah, I don't think any lead is safe with them. I don't know, I would never, I would never, I can't think of a situation where I would bet them, honestly. I kind of liked them 14 and a half today, but it stayed away from it. It just seemed like a classic Miami. We talked about it on WYZE. 35 straight? Just seemed like a classic looking ahead to the next week game for Miami. Maybe they went out. Very soft. I think Denver's the team to watch for the tanking thing. They've already just, they basically just got rid of Frank Clark and Randy Gregory. They were just like, hey guys, take a hike. So, it could be a big name there, but yeah, I mean, listen, I don't know if you had the Chiefs on the money line, but I was nervous Thursday. They hung with them, even though the Chiefs crushed them. By the way, could we do, what are we gonna do with primetime? Like, the Chiefs are a boring primetime team. I hate having a boring Chiefs team. Yeah. It's like if the Warriors with Curry just all decided and weren't that fun to watch. Right. It's like, no, come on, man. This is supposed to be a staple of funness. Is it weird that he hasn't been able to develop any of these receivers? I mean, he's clearly better than Aaron Rodgers, but Aaron Rodgers, I felt, made Valdez-Scantling decent than some of these other guys. I think Rice is gonna get there. I've seen enough flashes from Rice. Yeah, I like that. All right. Sky Moore, I haven't seen any flashes. None of these guys do anything. They don't seem to be open or I'm not, I don't know. It's all Taylor Swift. Two more games we have to mention. Washington and Atlanta, I lost money on. This was one of those, I have no idea how you lost the game games. They had 29 rushes and 28 completions, Atlanta. So 57 times where something positive was happening. They had a 25 to 13 first down advantage and they had 402 yards total offense and Washington had 193. And Desmond Ritter just single-handedly killed them. And there was a sequence in this game where he overthrew somebody for a TD. He took a delay game. This is in the red zone. Overthrown TD, delay game. One of the worst picks you'll ever see. Just three plays in a row. And it was like watching those Instagram videos, like those crash videos. If you follow that and you just get to watch car crashes. It was so bad. It was almost unrecoverable. Three picks for him. And I think I might be out. I don't know if I'm going back to the well with him. It was that bad. I think a lot of the pressure of, I've never lost the game at home. People like you bragging about that. And he's like, I can't take it anymore. I got to blow this. Yeah. I don't like them. I know you want to figure out who's going to win that division. I think it's crap. I don't think it's ever been crappier than it is right now. I mean, honestly. Come on. I know you're making me wonder who's going to win that division. No, don't even look. Don't even look. FanDell doesn't have it up. Don't even look. They lost money last week, not covering when they won. And then this week, I have no idea how they didn't win that game. Is that line really not up? No, it's up. I don't want to go. The Saints are plus 150. The Falcons are plus 185. Bucks are 210. And the Panthers are 65 to one. Is there a fifth choice? Is there a fifth team? Memphis has got to do well, right? Because Memphis.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"All right, our guy Benjamin Solak is here. You can read him on Sunday nights on the ringer.com. He's writing an excellent weekly column for us. You can hear him in the ringer NFL show and on the Philly special. And he's got the play sheet video series. He's one of our busiest people. So it's always an honor when he graces us with his presence. I want to play a game with you called Last Rites because we're heading into week six. I think five games is enough of a sample size in a lot of ways for, oh, wow, I'm writing that team off. Hmm, there's bigger problems here than we thought. Oh, this team's better than I thought, like Detroit. I'm like, I'm in on the, I was in on Detroit a week ago. I'm like, you know what? I was wrong. This team's good, but I want to go Last Rites route. The Patriots, can we pour dirt on them? Is that like, have you seen any, it's over, right? Yeah, it was over once Juden and Christian Gonzalez went out in the same week, man. Like that, those were, I think given the way Gonzalez was playing in the first month of the season, those were your two least dispensable, most indispensable defensive players. You lose them in the same game. That was, they were already tying together a defense that I thought was playing well, but like, wasn't like such a dominant defense that was going to win game after game for you. Offensively, they have no talent, none. There's no one on this team that's impactful. And like, I was a big Ramondre fan entering the season. He's underperformed and he still might be their best offensive weapon. It's so, so, so dreadful. And then the coaching staff, you don't think is going to have solutions to this problem because they're the ones who dug themselves into this hole and they've been in this hole for a bit and they're not going to get out of it. No, the Patriots turnaround would be no short of stunning to me this season. Their over-under has dropped to five and a half on Fandle and that still feels too high. I have no explanation for Ramondre. He was awesome last year. He's been terrible this year. I thought this was going to be a run the ball, play really good defense, physical team that didn't beat itself. And it's been the opposite. Ramondre is very high on the list of players that I'd be calling about right now if I were to GM at the trade deadline. But I'm just going to call the patrons and see like, hey, if you guys just don't like him for whatever reason, and like, it's like a, you know, attitude thing and there's a vibes are off thing. I'm very interested in Austin Eckler, but make him bigger. That's, I'm curious, I would like to acquire that. So Ramondre, I'll be curious to see if we get trade deadline smoke over the next few weeks. Well, so Denver is another one. We can pour, we can give them last rights, right? They're over under four and a half. They're done. That's a tear down. And it makes me wonder like, aren't those the two candidates for the number one pick for you? Because Carolina doesn't have their own pick. Maybe you could say giants too, but I do feel like the giants at least have some talent. They got, you know, they've had bad injury luck. They had a terrible schedule. But if you're Denver and if you're the Pats, we see this in the NBA all the time. We don't see it as much in the NFL. Why aren't you trading assets knowing that it also weakens your team this year? And like even somebody like Kendrick Bourne, like would he be good on the Chiefs? Like he probably would. I feel like there's a bunch of guys like that. Yeah, I love Kendrick Bourne on the Chiefs. I dropped that on actually taken last week where I was just throwing around trade deadline stuff. And I was like, let's get a QB friendly receiver to a Mahomes that desperately needs just one guy who is where he thinks he's gonna be. In that vein, that exact logic, why aren't you trading assets to go make sure you get an early pick is why I think the Vikings are a really good candidate for the first overall pick, right? Their general manager, Quesi Adofemensa, who's, I struggle to pronounce his last name, I'm sorry. Quesi is an analytics guy. He's probably the most analytics-pilled GM that we have in the league. Maybe Andrew Berry, Harry Roseman, but he's up there. And they're at a spot right now, one of my particular last rights that I have on my list is last rights to Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins. Kirk's in the last year of his deal. I would be legitimately stunned if we see him in a Vikings uniform in 2024. It's not even so much that he's not playing well enough to justify it. Like he's still Kirk, he's playing exactly like Kirk has been playing for the last five years. But this team desperately needs to infuse with youth and start a new era. And I think that you're gonna see trade deadline interest in Cousins, especially because he's on that one year rental. Accordingly, I could see them walking into the season, playing the backup the rest of the way, right? I think it's Nick Mullins, don't quote me on that. They've been changing backups for a while now. I'm really, really, really trying to sync this thing. Justin Jefferson's on IR with a hamstring injury now for at least four weeks. Hamstring injuries don't just go away, man. I mean, you don't just get over a hammy. It's a quick twitch muscle at a quick twitch position. That's a hard injury to deal with. I wouldn't be surprised if they shelf Jefferson, if they trade Kirk Cousins, they really tank this thing and they try to go get a new quarterback this upcoming draft. My daughter had a hammy pull the fifth day of soccer and it's six weeks later and it's still not 100%. She's made it worse twice. I had a hammy pull in 2014, all right? You still don't feel great. Well, the thing that, it's not like a sprained ankle where you can play on it and it gets better and the only way you're really gonna hurt it is if you actually sprained it again. The hammy, it's just like, anything can just set you back. So I think you're right on Minnesota. They don't even have them for, they took the over, under, down on FanDuel, but. Yeah, the Justin Jefferson injury is gonna leave them in a bad spot. They've been a mess too. Some of their strategy stuff, when they were blitzing Herbert 80% of the time in that Chargers game, that was nuts. But you're the smartest football person I know. Can you explain how somebody trades Kirk Cousins during a season and how that works with the salary cap? Because I just can't wrap my head around it. Yeah, absolutely. So Kirk Cousins is on a one year deal. He has one year left on his deal. Right now his base salary is $10 million. Base salary gets paid out as the game checks, right? Oh, you get 1 18th of it 18 times a season, right? That money, however many weeks will be left, nine, 10 weeks, will be responsible for the acquiring team. So the just trade for Kirk Cousins, they have to pay whatever fraction of that $10 million is left, which really is not a lot of money, right? You're gonna be paying single, what is it? Seven figures, right? Single digit millions for Kirk Cousins is a functional starting NFL quarterback. The rest of the money that's on Kirk's contract is all bonus money. It was either part of a signing bonus when he first signed the deal or money that got restructured when the Vikings changed the deal to create some cap space. All bonus money has already been paid to the player. The Vikings already gave it to Kirk. It's just on their salary cap for this year or for next year or for the following year. And so once they trade Kirk, the Vikings are still on the hook for all of his bonus money, right? Right now he's got a $6.25 million cap hit, which is signing bonus, another $4 million, which is restructured bonus. That doesn't go to the Jets. It all stays with the Vikings. And so if you're trading for Kirk Cousins, you're trading for a one year, $10 million deal. So you're trading for the game checks of Kirk Cousins. But you don't have to send a matching salary back or anything close. You can just absorb it in your cap. No, now you have to make sure you have room for that in your cap, obviously. And you can still do funky restructure stuff. Usually when we see trades with restructures, we see the team that's selling takes on some extra money to incentivize the acquiring team to get this player. Usually it's like a cash dump. We don't typically see it work another way where the Jets would acquire Kirk and then up his salary. I suppose there's worlds in which that might happen, but that'd be an extremely rare thing if it's ever happened at all. So in general, Kirk is a very, very attractive trade candidate right now. If you are the Jets, certainly I'd be calling about Kirk. I think the Falcons are a potential Kirk team. Thank you. I was waiting for you to say them, but Ritter was good last week, but is Ritter just, is he a good at home against young teams or is he actually like, there's signs of hopes here? Week five is the worst thing to happen to me in a while. Cause I was so close to being off of Justin Fields and so close to being off of Desmond Ritter. And then both of them just had the best games they've had this season. And I'm just sitting here like, but what if this was the turning point? Yeah, I mean like Arthur Smith is a very good example of how this sort of thing can work. He was the Titans Office of Coordinator. They make the Ryan Tannehill change. And he's a big part of Tannehill's kind of career resurgence. So if there's a guy in the league who feels like, hey, I can go get a middling over 30 quarterback and still make an offense work out of him, that guy's going to be Arthur Smith. So I think that the Jets and then quietly, the Falcons are your two best Kirk Cousins trade candidates. And I do think that's going to be a legitimate conversation when we get later in October. Not Washington. And then there's always the possibility of somebody gets injured and needs a QB immediately because they're having a good team. Man, I hesitate saying this out loud. Yeah, let's do it. No one's listening. If I'm the Jets, do I want to see a couple more Zach Wilson weeks? Cause I think I do. I don't. No, no, no, no. Don't do it. No, no, no. It is like Zach Wilson's biggest fan in the entire world is Robert Sala. And he's almost lost the defensive locker room twice now by endorsing this guy. You cannot get like, if you walk out with him past the deadline, fine, whatever. And like you do the Trevor Simeon thing, I don't care. But the like sauce gardener will stage a revolt if they do like too much more Zach Wilson stuff. You can't do it. He had in the fourth quarter, he had this great like third and 11th row where he stood in the pocket and hit somebody over the middle. And I was like, Zach Wilson, man, it's happening. And then what happened? I was like, pick like two plays later. All right. So you would, so if you're Minnesota, maybe you get Zach Wilson back. Oh, your little new home? Yeah, new home. Just try it out, see what's up. That I don't mind. I feel like the Jets will want to get Zach Wilson out because it'd just get him out of the locker room, right? And you kind of rid yourself of that polarizing figure. So cousin's trade, I like it. And it does seem like that's the right move for Minnesota. My next last rights, tough one, Carolina fans cover yours. Can we do last rights on the Bryce Young versus CJ Stroud? Who should we pick number one? Is that just a wrap now? Is this like Luca DeAndre Ayton where we're just, we don't even talk about this anymore? Yeah, I have on my list. I came with four and one of them was first overall pick Bryce Young. We're not, I'm not last rights on Bryce Young, the NFL quarterback. I am worried. I was not a Bryce Young guy coming out. That height and that play style at that height was concerning to me. I was much bigger on Stroud and Richardson. And I think that through five weeks, it's pretty clear that those guys, both of whom have played well to start the season, Stroud kind of more consistently, more reliably, and Richardson with some incredible peak moments. Both of those guys have such a wider road to success to long-term franchise quarterbacking than Young does. His road is so thin. Even if you want to argue like the offense and the scheme and the skill position players are really holding him back, which I think has some validity to it, it's still just, it's so hard to see the world in which this works, where a guy who can't really access the deep outside parts of the field because of his arm strength, who isn't as going to be a great scrambler because he's not quick enough, big enough to actually break tackles. Like just the worlds in which he succeeds are very, they're very thin worlds. It's not like a Tua thing exactly. But think about how when, before Mike McDaniel with Tua, we were like, okay, this guy might work, but you need to run like a really specific offense for him. When you find it, it's great. It's just that doesn't happen very often. It's very hard, very challenging to do. So first of all, pick Bryce Young, I agree. I think that was a swing and a miss. I definitely think if the coaching staff, like it seemed in March when they traded for the pick that the coaching staff was really leaning on shroud. Frank Reich had comments today talking about how ownership is really involved here in Carolina. It seems like that was a little bit of an ownership pick. That's doubly worrisome because if the coaching staff never fully believed in the guy, and now he's struggling while the other guy is succeeding, you just, the deck is so stacked against you. It's worrisome stuff. So I think that's the worst team. There's some decent stats with them offensively compared to other teams. Like they have eight touchdowns. They have 103 first downs, right? Where you look at like the Jets have 73 first downs, the Patriots have 83 first downs. So their offense has been a little friskier and they also have no incentive to go 0 and 17 this year because they don't have their pick. So if you had to say- How many of the first downs came from the Andy Dalton game? That's what I want to know. Well, that might be part of the problem. So my lean would be them as the number one worst team, except for the fact that that's not worth it for them to be the number one worst team. So if you had to go for a worst team, who would you go with? Like at the end of the year, this team has the number one pick, who would you bet on? Right now, the team in my power rankings is the worst of the Broncos. And the saving grace for the Broncos was supposed to be that, okay, like they're not going to be good. They have talent problems. Russ is a huge issue, but at least they'll be well coached and they have not been well coached. Like I think like offensively, they're trying to do the right things. And in fact, like by the numbers, Russell Wilson's having like a pretty fine season, but they still make a lot of mistakes there. And then obviously defensively, it's terrible. I mean, it's a travesty, a miscarriage of football, the way that they try to get 11 players on the field working in the same direction. So I don't think they're a well coached team. I would say right now, my guess for the worst team in football is the Broncos. They might still win a few games though, because like I said, Russ and the offense like still has, they have stretches where it works pretty nicely. And so if you put Broncos and Panthers head to head right now on a field, like neutral field, I think the Broncos would probably be favored. But my guess for long-term who's the worst team, I think the Broncos. Panthers are going to get better because they're young, right? Like young is going to play better in week 12 than he did in week four. Defensively, they're on a first year of a system. Offensively, they're on a first year of a system. Like they're going to like get it around the corner at least a little bit in my opinion. Broncos might just be a total dumpster fire, might completely blow up. Can we give last rights to all the Sean Payton, all the smoke about him being a top five coach? Because that team is terribly coached. And he's got to get some blame. Like they gave up 70 points to Miami. His guys stopped tackling against the Jets, which the Jets were just dying to give Broncos that game. And then the Broncos still figured out a way to screw it up. They do stuff like it's the kind of team that they just hit the punt returner before he catches the punt. They make like those kinds of penalties where it's just like, do you guys practice? What's going on here? I thought this guy was supposed to be like the savior. I don't see it. And yeah, I never was fully there on the savior either. Because like I said, the Russ offense is performing better, but better than it was last season. Like EPA per dropback, I think like Russ is near the top 10. But it's not like he was never going to turn out a top five offense with Russ. Like that's just not in Russ's cards anymore. He's not that level of athlete. And knowing Sean Payton, he doesn't seem like the sort of dude who takes great joy slash is interested in fielding the 12th best offense to go nine and eight. Like it's not his DNA to be like, oh, a building block. We did a good job year one, let's go to year two. Like he just seems angry. He seems like he's in blow up mode, right? There were reports of rumors that the Broncos locker room is expecting some trade deadline moves and they're going to sell and they're going to go super young. So like there's ways that you can clearly see Sean Payton as positively affecting the Broncos. Like they have this UDFA running back to Liam McLaughlin and he's playing quite well. And they're like, they got like nine different receivers who can catch a pass and they use them in solid way. Like there's stuff that's happening that's like good football. But the bedrock here was never good enough that a Sean Payton coach could walk in and like really actually fix everything. That's like a magic wand pumpkin at midnight, sort of a turnover. So I'm very interested in year two of Sean Payton Broncos. Presumably that's non Russell Wilson version and see what he looks like when he's actually building this thing in his image. But year one, like, yeah, they should be better than they are. They absolutely should. But I didn't ever think Payton was going to be able to like 11 and five this year, 11 and six, I guess, 11 and six this team. Cause it just, the pieces weren't there and that's not Payton's MO. Payton wants to build this thing in his image. They're going to scrap before they excel. So can we also give last rights to the new coach theory or can D'Amico Ryan save it? Cause you and Sheila, you did a whole thing on the new coach theory, which by the way, I've been a subscriber for 15 years and I stared at the Broncos for a while because I was like, this is the perfect new coach team where they had the bad coach last year. No expectations. Nobody sees them coming. Like they're checking boxes. I just couldn't get there because, mostly because of Russell Wilson. I didn't realize that defense was going to be this bad. So unless Ryan's or Shane Steak can save the new coach theory, we might be, it might be, it might be dead. Well, let me, let me, let me push back on that. Cause the Broncos almost hired D'Amico, but they lost him because they were too busy screwing around with Harbaugh. And then D'Amico like lost interest in the job and he wasn't going to take the Texans job. And then he did take the Texans job and then they tried to call him back, but he'd already committed to the Texans. So then they went up the offer for Sean Payton. So the new coach theory would have worked perfectly if the Broncos just did their job and hired D'Amico Ryan. But instead, yeah, we, we ended up in a, in an alternate universe where he ends up in Houston. I think, right, like new coach theory, I generally still feel good about. Maybe there's a, if Russell Wilson is your quarterback and you spent a ton of picks to go get him corollary, that, that, that precludes the Broncos, the 2023 Broncos from inclusion. D'Amico though. Well, I wonder, I'm not going to give up on the Colts yet. Oh, James, yeah. I know Richardson got hurt, but I, I'd like, I think they're well coached. I really liked how they played against Tennessee. I didn't think any, I didn't think people were going to be able to run the ball on Tennessee like they did. They've lost their quarterback midway through two, two of the five games this year. I don't know. I think they're pretty solid. I've been impressed by them. Yeah, Colts have been a nice big surprise for me. Absolutely. Shane Siken is like official stamps got the goods, dude. Like I, I was a huge second guy when he was in Philadelphia. He took the play calling from Nick Sirianni mid-season in 2021 and they immediately experienced the jump. And then they had a second jump in 2022. Offense was buzzing. You can see in 2023 now the Eagles offense still looks the same, but it doesn't look the same. Like we all, we, we, we all like they're pressing similar buttons and AJ Brown is great at this and Dallas Goddard's great at that, running the football incredibly. But we all watch it and go, oh, this doesn't, this isn't as easy as it was last year. This isn't as free as it was last year. And meanwhile, you got Siken who just, like both with Richardson and with Minshew, consistently puts players in the exact position they need to be in to succeed. How are we getting, like, this wide receiver room is Michael Pittman, Alec Pierce and Josh Downs. Their starting tight ends are Kylan Branson and Mo Allie-Cox. Like this, this ain't it from a personnel perspective. Zach Moss is out here rushing for 150 yards, man. Siken is, is I think like if there's a guy who, like we have, we have Ben Johnson with the Lions, who's that like play caller everybody loves, who's not in the Shanahan tree. If there's a silver medal on that podium, it goes to Shane Siken, who, I don't know how he came up and how he got all this from where he didn't get it from the Shanahan tree. But the, the play calling, the sequential stuff that he does is really, really awesome. And this is the problem. These are the really sad, dark Patriot fan threads that I'm on right now, where it's like, well, Mac doesn't have the weapons and the, you know, the Lion isn't there. It's like, well, how do you explain Houston and Indianapolis to me? Because what does CJ Stroud has? He has a bunch of young receivers nobody's ever heard of. He's had all kinds of chaos on his offensive line and he's been fine. Indianapolis, same thing. Who's had, they didn't have Jonathan Taylor for the first four games. They've had offensive line injuries. They have worse receivers than the Patriots do. Yes. And they've been okay. And Minshew can come in and throw it around. So to me, that speaks more to like how bad the coaching has been in New England, which has been, this has been five years of slappiness dating back to Brady's. Would you, I have to ask, is it last rights for Belichick for you? I think Belichick's still a good coach. I think that Belichick in New England might be something that gets put in the dirt here at this point. Like you just end up washing your hands with it because you're gonna have to restart at some point and this is as good of an out as there's ever been, right? You're gonna move on from Mac probably. You're gonna change the entire coaching staff. Like it feels like a good time to start the new era. And even if Belichick goes to the Chargers and he goes to the commanders and he's successful, then you kind of say, well, we got out when the getting out was good and we thought it would be okay. They keep Belichick, I'll be fine with it too. But Belichick's at the stage in his career where he needs to like have an actual general manager and then have like an actual offensive coordinator. And like you can't just like whatever construction the Patriots had in the last two decades where they built the entire ship in Brady's image and Belichick's image. Without Brady, it clearly doesn't work. Belichick can still coach a really good defense, but Belichick's next team, whether it's Patriots or otherwise, needs to take on a more traditional construction relative to the one that they enjoyed for two years when they had Brady. Like that was a bespoke build that worked with those two guys. Take one out, it doesn't just work with the only one left. You have to go for a more typical method of running a team. So this, I'm not sure I'm right, but it was just something I've been thinking about this week as I come to grips with the fact that I'm probably not going to have a good football team again until I'm in my late 50s. Part of Belichick's roster construction philosophy was I just want a lot of swings at things. I want to have depth. I want to have a lot of like cheaper guys and just a lot of solid to good guys all over the place at the expense of having like some of the bigger ticket people, right? I wonder if the league is different and there's just more talent now and that actually the people that have moved into this, I know I actually want to have some blue chippers. I want to have some fucking badasses. I want to have some expensive guys. Like kind of what San Francisco's doing. The new inefficiency is like don't spend anything on positions that we always thought were super important, but spend a lot of money on like defensive line, being able to block, your left tackle, maybe one big receiver. And that's just never how he built the team. He was always like receivers are interchangeable, running backs are interchangeable. I just want to have depth everywhere. I care about my special teams. And maybe that's just done now in 2023. I don't know. What do you think about roster construction? I strongly agree. I think that's actually like that point sets off light bulbs in my head in terms of thinking about the Patriots versus other teams. Because I was just talking about the Lions on Extra Point Taken and saying like they're four and one. I've been the biggest Lions rebuild believer in the last two years. I should be madly in love with this. I should be just banging the drum. Like I did, like Lions are good. I knew it all along, here we go and I'm not. And the reason why I'm not is because like I feel uneasiness in my stomach because I can't find their stars. And I know that stars are January winners. I know that you play as well as you want in the regular season. When we get to January football, you better have two or three guys that can just take over a game period done. We win because we have him, you lose because you don't. And right now the Lions are asking Aiden Hutchinson to be that guy and I'm on Ross St. Brown. And it's like, all right, maybe. But I would love if we could get like a real star on this team. With the Belichick Patriots, that makes sense. Like we are seeing target distribution among teams in the league become more funneled than ever like a couple of guys. Look at the Raiders. They throw to Devante Adams. And if they don't throw to Devante Adams, they throw to Jacoby Myers, the Dolphins last year. We throw to Tyreek Hill. We don't throw to him. We throw to Jalen Waddle, the Bengals. Jamar, Chase, T. Higgins, right? We have dudes who are good. We don't mess around with this. Eagles, Aja Brown to Bobby Smith to Al Scott. It's very concentrated. And so a spread and shred approach, which was like a real common thing in the more 2000s, traditional West Coast offense, that starts to fall away. Defensive building, right? Again, look at how the Eagles do it. We're gonna dominate with the front. We'll figure everything else out in the back end. The Niners do the same thing to a similar degree. They spent a little bit more at linebacker and safety, but still, we're gonna dominate with the rush. The Cowboys, we're gonna dominate with the rush. We'll survive in the back end. That's never been the way Belichick's done it. And so I do think that there's a polarization of team building where you have to say, all right, we're gonna win in the passing game on offense and the pass rush on defense, and invest so much there that we always win and we can figure out the rest of the stuff later that a lot of smart teams are employing that the Patriots have totally zagged on. Other teams have zagged on that with some success, you know what I'm saying? There's always room to zag and to go a different direction and to be able to beat teams by pitching changeups, but it's hard to do. It's hard to sustain long-term. And I think the Patriots are struggling in that regard. One of the team building things I really like is when people double down on something they're already good at. Yeah. It's like, we have a strength and now it's a super strength. And I think the Jalen Carter picks a perfect example of that. I've never had more fun in my life than I have watching Jalen Carter. I cackle every time he plays. He's so good, dude. He's amazing. He's already one of the three best interior linemen in the league, right? He's like if Ndamukong Suh was just better. Are you for like, Ndamukong Suh and then just dude was ratcheted on two and 11. He's so good, man. I love him so much. I just behave in the off season, Jalen, please. I promise you, please. Oh my God. Would you do last rights on the Steelers having a competent offense, or do you see anything in there that makes you think there's signs of life? Because just stat-wise, no offense has been worse. I mean, they have, I haven't been down, five touchdowns, 37% on third down. They have 30 punts this year and 70 first downs. You never want the 30-70 ratio for punts and first downs. Historically, not great, no. Historically, not awesome. And yet, they're the Michael Myers team, right? If they could just hang around, hang around, they get the other team to make dumb plays at the worst possible times. They'll get one 40-yard pass at the perfect time. They'll get a weird safety when you least expect it. The Steelers are three and two, and they were my big pick before the year, and I've watched all of their games, and I have no idea why they're three and two. So is their offense dead, or can it be fixed? I'm willing to leave them on life support for a couple more weeks, just so long as they aren't suffering. If they were suffering and in pain, I think I'd pull the plug. Okay. It's a funny thing to be watching a team and to go, oh, thank God, they made it a third and eight. Now they might just chuck it at George Pickens, right? That's the opposite of the viewing experience that you're supposed to have, and that's one of the reasons why in these late games where they have these comebacks, they just end up being in a Kenny Pickett backyard football world, and that's their best version of offense right now. It's not even that great of a backyard football offense relative to other backyard football offense in the league with more passing weapons and better quarterbacks, but it's better than what they do on the standard drawbacks. I think that if you gave me this entire roster as it currently is built and put a different OC in place, I'd feel like it has a chance to have some legs, and so as long as they get through the season without any insane injuries and they move on from that Canada, I'll still generally believe in this group, and accordingly, it's hard to fully bury them now. Deontay Johnson getting back is gonna help this team because they need consistent winners at pass catcher, and right now they have like 1.25 with Pat Fryermuth who runs 90 routes a game and gets three targets. I don't, it's a total mess. It is funny when guys disappear for a while and then come back, but you forgot they were gone. Like Cam Robinson, it's like, oh yeah, they have their left tackle back. They're gonna be better. I kind of forgot about him. Yeah, the Deontay Johnson return will definitely help this team. They're more willing to use Jalen Warren. Like I think, yeah, I think they are, I'm comfortable saying I wanna keep them alive for now. Bring me back on in a month, and it might be the 1A headline as Matt Canada get out of here. I hope you're right. It's a miracle that they're three and two. Do you have any last, last rights? Cause I have one big one for you that I wanted to end on. I do have a last rights to franchise quarterback, Daniel Jones. I think we're- Oh yeah, I think that's fun. Yeah, there was that nice 2019 run where we were like, maybe, and then that 2022 run where we were like, oh, and now it's just, it doesn't, it's not legitimate. And this was, it wasn't that it was easy to see that this was not legitimate, but rather in 2022, he was so successful playing an entirely different brand of football. He had quicker throws and shallower throws. They were doing quarterback run. It was so different than the player he had been for the first few years, which means one of two things happened. Brian Dable fixed him, found an offense that fixed him that he could work in, or it was total noise. It was luck and it was a surprise factor and it wasn't real, which means the easiest thing to do is just franchise tag him, play him for another year and see which one it was. Instead, they extend him, and now I think it's pretty clear that a lot of that 2022 success was some chaos stuff, was some luck stuff, and it's not tenable. He'll be 28 in 2025 when his contract is movable, because it's not movable for 2024. I mean, it's like a $69 million dead cap hit. So he's gonna be looking for a Tannehill resurgence, right? Where it's, I'm in my late 20s, I'm big, I could run around a little bit. I can execute your offense for you, maybe, and we'll see if he gets that. I wouldn't super bet against it, but the idea of him as like a long-term franchise quarterback, I think that's dead and gone. I thought of like Tannehill as like straight to video. Like when you go on Amazon on Tuesdays and there's new movies, and it's like, Nick Cage's new movie is out. It wasn't released in the theaters. It's just out. It's just available right now to rent or buy. It's like, oh, they didn't release that in the theater? No, that Ryan Tannehill is like the classic, it's available right now on Pay-Per-View, but nobody's going to the theater to see Ryan Tannehill. And you're right, Jones is probably in there, and I don't even know if Mac Jones is good enough to be straight to video. He might be like Lifetime movie. The problem with the Ryan Tannehill arc is that it's called the Ryan Tannehill arc because only Ryan Tannehill has ever hit it. And that's why it's not a good place to be, right? If you're on a Ryan Tannehill path, guess what? It was named after him. He's the only one who's made it. You don't want to be there. Jones, both Daniel and Mac, like I can find worlds in which they're successful on a different team. So I'm not willing to close the door on like, again, them having like a Kurt Cousins era where they end up being a functional quarterback for somebody in their late 20s and their 30s. But again, like a franchise guy, a guy they're like, woo-hoo, we got him. We're set for the next 10 years. Not for me. If the Diners drafted Mac, is he doing what Purdie's doing now? Because I say no. No, like he's doing 92% of it though. Okay. Yeah. All right, here's my last last rights. And I might get hit by lightning when I say this. Is the Chiefs awesome offense era? Do we need to bring the Priest in? No, it's Mahomes, it's Andy. I will believe it like two years after I see it. I'll be very happy to be the last one to admit that the Chiefs offense has taken a permanent hit. So you want to be the last one to shut out the lights on? Okay, because they have no, I can't even tell the receivers apart. You don't even know who's who because none of them stand out in any way. And then Kelsey, and when he hurt his ankle for 20 minutes in that game, they looked super mortal all of a sudden. The NFL, it ends fast, man. It does, yeah. It's just like, holy shit, we're here now? I didn't realize that happened. I just don't know who like the big play dudes are if it's not Kelsey. I don't see it anywhere else on the roster. And it didn't hurt them last year. They were able to get through it. But is this still going to be the team when they're down four with five minutes left, but the live bet is minus 200 on FanDuel? Because it's like, oh, Mahome's going to get one here. Like at some point you can pass the point of no return with your supporting cast. And it feels like they're really playing with this now. I agree. The thing, the Travis Kelsey of it all is really what interests me. So Kelsey is 34. It's easy to forget. This dude's old, especially at the tight end position. For tight ends. The tight ends fall off a cliff. Which obviously Kelsey having a great life moment at this time, but still he's old by NFL standards. And last year, if you remember, like right when they moved off Tyreke Hill, they were doing fine. They were doing better offensively than they are right now. But Kelsey himself was really struggling. And a lot of his explosiveness numbers were down. Like his NGS numbers, there was a miles per hour, how fast off the line, like all that was down. And he was really bad against press, right? He was just getting big void and he lacked the quickness and he lacked the strength. He wasn't moving the same. And then he really picked it off in the second half of the year and into the playoffs. And so you say, okay, like Kelsey's a little bit old and they're just trying to keep, they're not necessarily gonna ask him to be operating at the highest level and they're trying to keep him fresh for the post season. That's a scary world to live in. When you have one weapon, that's him and you have to like manage his snaps a little bit. A little bit, what was it called in the NBA? A little rest management. Load management. The Pats had to do this with Gronk. This is the last couple of years of Gronk. Yeah, so that'd be okay if you have a second receiver and then another tight end who you felt fine about. But you live in this world where like Kelsey's really your only scary weapon and you've got load management for him. That I think is very concerning. The Chiefs have rolled dice after dice after dice to try to find that second weapon, right? You go and you sign MBS, you sign the Juju Smith-Suster, you draft Sky Moore, you draft the She-Rice, you trade for Kadarius Toney. Like they have brought dude after dude after dude in. They can't get a hit. Rashe-Rice looks like he might. I was gonna say, so he's, I have him on two teams. He's, there's some flashes. Especially in the red zone. It seems like Mahomes kind of trusts him in the red zone a little bit. And that was the book on him at SMU a little bit. He's good congested cash players, good in the tight areas. And so I think Rashe, you can see him coming along. The Chiefs or the Jets might be trading Mikkel Hardman. Go get Mikkel Hardman, get him back in this team. Oh my God. Dust off the Mikkel book, run a couple of Jet sweeps. But yeah, the Chiefs, the way they did it was right. Like they moved off of Tyreke. You know, you get the money, you start throwing dice and just trying to fill out the roster. They just haven't hit. They haven't gotten lucky. And they might be running out of time on the Travis Kelsey clock. So they're in a tenuous spot with the pass catchers.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I still don't know, I can't tell the, I have a giant TV and can't tell what Chiefs are. I still don't know the numbers. Is that Sky Moore, is that Valdez Scantling? Like none of the guys stand out. None of them stand out in any way. It's just this interchangeable group of receivers that don't seem special or unique in any way. And then there's Kelsey who it looked like he got hurt for about five minutes there. And it was like, wow, if he goes down, what are they gonna do? But I still feel like- Not bothering to cover him at all. I feel like that team can be had in the playoffs this year because of the receivers. Those guys aren't open. As great as Mahomes is, you can, when we get to January, I feel like that team could be beaten. I'm always tricked into thinking they have a good running game now because Pacheco will ultimately reel one off for like 15 or 20, but then I look at the stats, it's like, ah, that wasn't that great. Devin Achain versus C.J. Stroud, seems like that's gonna be an unbelievable offensive rookie of the year battle. Oh yeah, lots of fun. Is it up? Is he the fastest person you've ever seen on a football field? Because I used to think it was Tyreek Hill. Yeah, I think he is faster. He had a run today where it just felt like he was on some sort of video game where somebody was like accelerating him or something. 21.7 miles per hour. That is video game speed. Yeah, Stroud is plus 150, Achain is four to one, and Pukka is plus 450, and Bijan at six to one. Wow, can you- And Anthony Richardson, nine. It's a good crop, it really is. How can Pukka not be the favorite when he's been absolutely lights out every game? And C.J. Stroud, I agree with it. C.J. Stroud today, Atlanta goes up by six, Falcons just need to stop, they're at home, the game's over, the crowd's pretty loud. And the Falcons, I was impressed by them. They're like one of those sideline teams we always talk about. They make a play and 20 guys on the sideline are jumping on the field and hitting helmets and just like super fire. Like it seems like they have really good chemistry. Desmond Riddick was very good today. He was really good. And that was like, we'll get one stop and we'll go home. And Stroud took Houston right down the field and got the go-ahead touchdown. I was really impressed. I think he's excellent. Cross-off teams, I have Carolina, New England, Denver, and I still think Chicago is a cross-off team even though they beat Washington Thursday night. If that team wins five games, I'd be amazed. Those would be my four. Carolina, New England, Denver, Chicago. Yeah, and if I have to have a fifth one, I would probably take Arizona. Yeah, yeah, I mean. I think those are the five. What are we talking about? Arizona's not gonna get a wild card. No. Yeah, that's fine, they could have five. That's good. That's good. I have one last question. Would the Jets have been like a top 17 if Rogers didn't get hurt? If you just put Rogers on that team this whole time, are we talking about them as like the second best team in the AFC? Because I don't think we are, because I don't think their defense is as good as whatever the hype for it is. I thought Denver was doing stuff on them for most of the game. They were running on them, Wilson was making plays on them, and any time Denver screwed up, it was mostly based on their own incompetence or bad play calling or something. I just don't think the Jets' defense is that good. Well, are you asking if they would be four and one or three and two? Because they're two and three. They'd be three and two with them. Give them the Pats win. Yeah. I don't know. They're either three and two or four and one. I don't know if they beat the Cowboys. It's tough. It's a tough one. But. I don't know. Maybe they would have played well enough that Dak would have rolled over. Like he rolled over tonight. 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"sky moore" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"And so it was either can we get Zach Wilson into a place where he's a good starting quarterback by November? Right. Or do we go and trade for somebody and is going and getting, say, like you can find a way to get Case Keenum out of Houston. Is that necessarily better than what Zach Wilson is going to give you? Yeah. Case Keenum is going to be coming into a new system and all that different stuff. So I don't know. I just think it's I understand why they did it now. I understand the other side of the argument, too, that like maybe you felt like you just wanted a game manager and a guy who could kind of run the run the offense. And there was some merit to that, too. But I like I certainly think the idea that it was baseless to go forward with Zach Wilson was was faulty all along. I agree on the Chiefs. And I mean, listen, this is a I hesitate to talk too much about the Chiefs. Like it's unfair, right? They're just so good. And when they have bad games, like Patrick Mahone said last night, sometimes you have to win ugly and who cares? And I do think that there is an immense value in them having these kind of games where Isaiah Pacheco is like a 48 yard touchdown run where let's see here. They were you know, they ran the ball 35 times. They gained five point eight yards per rush. And I do think that there's an inherent value in that. They they controlled the clock. Like these games take a little bit of juice off of Patrick Mahone's. And, you know, maybe instead of the the marathon that each week is, you know, he gets to come out of there just a little bit later and, you know, not feeling all that pressure. You know, I also think like in a lot of ways, they're like what the Patriots used to be. And then I feel like every one of their games is like a playoff game for the other team. You know what I mean? Like so they're always going to get like they're always going to get everything from the other team is not their team is going to throw what it has at you. And you're going to be facing that every week. And it's going to be sort of a playoff atmosphere. It's going to be like the on the field is going to be a playoff level effort from the other team because that's who they're being measured against. So you have that. And I think the other thing is like they do have like a little bit of, you know, I think the freedom because they know in the end they're going to wind up with 12, 13, 14 wins regardless to use the early parts of the season to work some things out. And so, you know, what is going through this early part of the season mean for Sky Moore? What does it mean for Rashi Rice? What does it mean for the way that those pieces fit around Patrick Mahone? What does it mean for their new tackles for Donovan Smith and Juwan Taylor? Like, I think that there's that part of it, too, where these teams that are the super elite, even Buffalo to a degree like this, like where, you know, if you're in that, if you're being honest with yourself and you're a coach and that staff or you're a guy in that front office, you know, like you're going to be there at the end. Right. So it's worth it to use the early parts of the season to develop different elements of your team because you think it could serve you well in January. And I think that's sort of what the Chiefs are going through right now. Last thing on this game, and then I promise we're going to move on. The the call was horrific at the end of this game. And I'm watching it. I'm like watching it like the Subruder film right now. And so, OK, I get it. Sauce Gardener's hand is on the one on Valdez Scantling's jersey. You put your hand on the back of the jersey. You're going to set yourself up for getting called. However, that happens. And then one, two, three, four, five, six seconds go by. Then the interception happens. And the second the interception happens, the flag is thrown. If that was such an egregious call. If you're the official, you throw that flag the second it happens and you don't you don't rile up a bunch of Taylor Swift crazed conspiracy theorists. Albert, that's all. Yeah, yeah. I'm watching it again, too, actually. And it's yeah, it's not good. It's not good. I mean, doesn't it look doesn't it look OK? I I'm not a rough conspiracy theorist. I'm not. I promise you, I'm not. I've talked to officials about this. I understand very deeply how hard this game is to officiate. And they do a very good job. Like, you know, I mean, the NFL says they're 95 percent accurate, which, like, OK, I say I'm a 95 percent great writer, but I'm doing my own audit. Right. Is there someone doing an independent audit on that? No, but I do I do think they do a pretty good job. That to me is a call that, you know, you know, it just raises all sorts of suspicion for me. You know, it's just like one of those and like fake suspicion, fan suspicion. But at the same time, it's just like, oh, that is it's not good. The whole thing wasn't good. Yeah, yeah. And it's it invites like I mean, and this is one of those things to the problem with gambling. Well, honestly, it's it's it's it's the problem with a lot of things, but I think it's like it's one of those things to like this feels like one of those where.
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"And I'm Archie Zaraleta and I'm Archie includes 7 ,500 EV cap cost reduction not all customers will qualify residency restrictions apply take delivery by 10 -2 Jeep registered is a trademark times in the week one loss to the Jets Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen threw three touchdown passes bills winning their home opener over the Las Vegas Raiders 38 to 10 Allen says was he motivated all week to get back but I I love feeling how I felt last week I really do as a team Raiders the only rushed for 55 yards in this game quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo through one touchdown pass and two Jean interceptions Bataglan Orchard Park New York the Tennessee Titans got their first win of the 2023 season knocking off the visiting Los Angeles Chargers 27 to 24 in overtime just as the rain started to fall Nashville in Nick volt connected on a 41 yard field goal three -time Pro Bowl running back Derrick Henry said that when the rain came the urgency did too we were in the drive once it started raining all I was thinking just get this thing in the end zone get three points we can get out of here for where it gets crazy so glad I was able to get the field goal and get the win before it really started lightning the and point now the Chargers Justin Herbert 127 of 41 for 305 yards and two scores Keenan Allen hauled in eight of his 10 targets good for 111 yards and two touchdowns in the loss. Jeremy K Gover, Nashville. The Chiefs shook off a slow offensive start to beat the Jaguars for the third time in 10 months 17 -9. Kansas The city didn't score until Patrick Mahomes hit Sky Moore for a nine yard touchdown in the final minute of the first half Mahomes was 29 of 41 passing for 305 yards. You played bad and win. It's a lot better than playing bad and losing. So I was glad we found a a way to win get at the end of the day. But obviously a lot of stuff that we have to get better at. Chris Jones recorded two sacks and five quarterback pressures to help the defending champs bounce back from a season opening loss to the Lions. Trevor Lawrence was 22 of 41 for 216 yards but couldn't engineer a touchdown drive. I'm Dave. Fair Jeep adventure days is going on now. Hurry in for great deals on a great selection of Jeep brand vehicles now get 10 % below MSRP for an average of 6903 under MSRP
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"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"I like that pick. Who do you got, Craig? I wouldn't accept money from Michael Pittman this year. I don't want anything to do with that. That was your number one guy last year. That was that was your the pendulum. You're my true love last year. Yeah, it was. It didn't exactly work out. Not exactly his fault. I still think he's a good player, but I just I don't love Anthony Richardson on the ground is maybe the best running quarterback we've ever seen through the air. He might be the worst. And I don't like anything I've seen in the preseason from Richardson passing. This offense on the Colts this year feels like the Bears last year. It's going to be like running the Navy offense. I don't want anything to do with Michael Pittman. He's way too expensive. Also, you didn't mention this piece of Pittman. I mean, not not the most durable guy. And Richardson has a couple of those throws like I'm wide open over the middle. Now I'm jumping up for the pass that's over my head and I'm getting blasted by safety. Stay away. So I really wanted to take Jonathan Taylor here. But there is the McCaffrey 2022 trade possibility where all of a sudden he's on some awesome team and somebody has him for 19 bucks and fears. So I'm not taking him. So I was really proud of this pick. It's Kadarius Toney. So there's three outcomes for a fantasy receiver like Kadarius Toney, right? One is he just never lives up to the hype and it's just super disappointing and you just regret that you take him. The second is that it's amazing and it actually works out. And he plays 16 weeks, including the playoffs, when you need him those last three. And it's just you struck while you hit a home run. And then there's the third one, which is the worst, which is the guy who tempts you, he tantalizes you with two or three weeks where he has like in week four, he has six catches for 190 yards and three TDs. You're like, oh, my God, I did it. I fucking landed on the moon with Kadarius Toney. And then in week seven, the red flags up. And then it's like he missed an injury rehab session. He's been suspended by the team for 72 hours and then he misses week eight. And then there's another injury. And then now he's just hogging my roster spot because I have no idea if he's going to come back or not. But he was the guy that had 190 yards in week three. So I have to hold on. I don't want it. I'm out. I'm just out. I don't want to deal with it. I still dream about I still dream about his game against Dallas in 2020. I believe it was week four. He had like 150 yards. He looked like the best receiver I've ever seen in my life. That one. I still think about that game and I still hope to get there one day. You know what? Kadarius Toney is a drug. He's kind of like Salvia. He distorts time because Craig and DK talk about Kadarius Toney's greatness, like Michael Thomas's greatness, except, you know, Salvia, it's like 10 minutes. It feels like three hours. I'm like, dude, he had two good games like two years ago. And I'm just I'm completely he was also like the third most important player on the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Mind you. And she won them the game. The Chiefs played him for like five steps in the game. He was in two weeks to prep him for the game. Oh, my. Don't even get me started. You know what he is? What? He's the new Josh Gordon. I mean, different, different issues, but he's just so tantalizing and teams talk themselves into him. And you just I just don't trust it. I don't hear Josh Gordon, but he's allowed to play. But he just does it anyway. This this category is called I wouldn't take him even if he was free. He practically is. You can get him for a dollar or two. Who cares? It's worth a flyer. But it's a gateway drug. This is the problem with the Chiefs, DK, as I look at them big picture, because I talked about this Lombardi on Sunday, but I picked them in the Super Bowl last year. And the theory was their receivers are just good enough and Mahomes is so great and their offensive line is going to be good that he'll make it work. But now I feel like we've passed the point of no return to the to the degree that if they don't hit with Tony or one of their rookies doesn't actually, like, blossom into a major, major dude who's catching the ball than Kelsey? I cannot figure it out. Who's that? What receiver do you trust the most than the Chiefs? Probably Sky Moore, but again, we haven't really seen him yet. You know, he played in the Super Bowl. Yeah, he he lined up wrong in the Super Bowl and still caught a touchdown. But to me, yeah, I think so. The curious Tony thing is more of a bit than us being actually serious, but he I will say the way he moves is very, totally a bit. He's he does. He has rarely watch him play. He's like, all right, this guy's pretty special. And I was on the sideline. I think the one thing that the one actual analytical thing I will say about him is I think he's good on the scramble plays on the broken plays when Mahomes gets outside of pocket, extends plays. And that's really a huge part of Mahomes game. Tony's always seems to be in the right place when those plays happen. Maybe it's because he's in the wrong place where he was supposed to be running. But to me, that's the one like actual analytical thing I would say, other than he moves differently than everyone else on the field is. That's what gets me excited about. Craig, you know what? Fantasy football is enough pain and heartache and self-doubt and hating yourself. I don't need to also bring Kadarius Tony into that. I don't need to be tantalized by this talented dude. All right, next category.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sky moore" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"And last year, I picked them to win the Super Bowl, and I'm like, you know what, Mahomes? Just give them average receivers who'll make it work because he's got Kelsey. This year, it's like Kelsey and I think one of the top five worst receiver rooms that anybody has. I don't even know if you have to say who would you want in fantasy? I don't even know who I would pick. So just at some point, they're doing a little tap dance with that that I think they're gonna go too far with. Well, let's just take, people say preseason's meaningless, right? And I disagree. There's things you can find out in preseason. For example, last preseason, the Giants. Their execution was really good. It was right there in front of us, and I refuse to acknowledge it. I just thought they were gonna be bad. They were able to, they completed passes in the preseason. Their execution was good, and it carried over. Last preseason, with that receiving core, Mahomes played last preseason, and he averaged 8.6 yards per attempt. This preseason, he was at 7-1. They struggled against Arizona the first two drives, and they were trying. They were trying to score. Now, eventually, he got them down the field, but I'm with you. I'm not sure they're as good this point of the season as they were last year. I think it's gonna take some time, and do they have that guy? They got a lot of young receivers. I don't count, you know, Scantling, you know, as being a guy who's gonna take a giant step up. Or Sky Moore. I remember the Pats put Brady in this position one specific year in 06, the Rashe Caldwell-Jabbar Gaffney year, and Troy Brown, who was pretty done at that point. And Brady, that was one of his best seasons, and nobody was open the whole season. Like, nobody. Caldwell was probably their best receiver, and he was, you know, probably like a C-minus. But I do think, like, at some point, you can throw the position away to the point that if nobody can get open against a good defense, I don't care how good Mahomes is. We'll take a break, and then I gave you an assignment, and we're gonna talk about it. Get ready for the NFL season with incredible offers from FanDuel, America's number one sportsbook. Right now, new customers can bet $5 and get 200 in bonus bets, guaranteed. Plus, all customers can bet $5. We get $100 off NFL Sunday ticket from YouTube and YouTube TV. You can bet anything. You can bet the Packers to win the division. It's like plus 350. You can bet Jalen Hurts to be your MVP. I think it's either 12 to one or 11 to one right now. Now is the best time to join FanDuel. The app is easy to use. You can be on everything from spreads to player props and more. Visit fanDuel.com slash BS. Kick off the NFL season with an offer you don't wanna miss. FanDuel, official partner of the NFL. You must be 21 plus and present in select states. First online, real money wage, or only $10 first deposit required. Bonus issued as non-majorable. Bonus bets that expire seven days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanDuel.com. NFL Sunday ticket offer ends September 18th, 2023. No refunds, terms, and embargoes apply. $100 off NFL Sunday ticket. Not YouTube TV. YouTube TV base plan required to watch YouTube TV. Redemption requires a Google account and current form of payment.
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"sky moore" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"As I think back, I guess the most embarrassing play was the missed passer appearance column Ramsay sculptor years ago. But this one was up there. Having to do a do over on a key third down in the AFC title game in the fourth quarter is pretty bad. Being at that rams saints game was one of the best moments of my life. Just complete and total chaos. Just absolute. Absolute. Bedlam. Oh, well, I still remember that. I still remember. I still remember standing next to nickel Robbie Coleman and I was, it was like me and two other reporters and he was like, well, let me see the play. And we showed him the play. And then he and then he goes, oh yeah, I got him. That was amazing. It's so good. It's so good. And I know you like me. Have just a part of darkness. Just a black heart. It's kind of so much more fun when it happens to the home team. Yes. And you just get all the infuriated people immediately reacting. You don't have to go to social media and see what people are saying. You're right there for the angriest people in the world being upset about that. And you get to kind of yell. Be jerk about it and be like, yeah, I have no rooting interest here. This is just funny. Yes. Oh man. A couple of a couple of ram notes on this. Number one, I mentioned the canary is Tony injury. And by the way, the challenge at the beginning of this game was pretty absurd by Andy Reid only because it looked like so Carrie stoney drops the touchdown. It took tough catch it. I don't want to overstate it like he dropped it like a bounce off his chest. Tough catch didn't survive the ground. It was really difficult to see because he was like on top of the ball and the side judge was blocked on it, it was a tough call for the officials. I think they base the call on the fact that Tony got up and started walking off the field like Charlie Brown. With the sad music playing and they were like, oh, okay, well, he must have dropped it incomplete. And the chiefs challenge it a minute later. And I just don't know what would have happened because I don't know if Tony sort of very suddenly walked off the field and then he was like, I caught it and it's like, I don't know, usually you're waving your arms and throwing a fit if you think you caught it. That was super weird. But Tony was out and they missed him as a receiver, obviously. But sky Moore ended up, you know, the good receiver ended up going back and returning punts again, which is something they got away from because he repeatedly proved unable to catch punts, which is an issue. Earlier this season, so he's taken off upon return duty. He was back on it and he ended up basically having the, we're gonna get to the other key play here on that drive, but that was the biggest play that set up the game winning field goal was his 29 yard punt return there. Yeah. Yeah. And a great game by sky more, by the way. I thought that was sort of a breakout performance and did earn him a major shout out in my Super Bowl predictions, which on SI dot com today. You, by the way, edited a just beautiful 9-1-1: Lone Star joke into my copy and I just wanted to tell you live on the podcast that that was really well done and it made me smile. It was my lone contribution to those 3000 words. Yeah, I think sky is one of those players that if jerick McKinnon didn't break out the way that he did this year, I think you could have used him in the backfield a lot more and I still think you might see that a little bit in the Super Bowl. I think that might be interesting challenge the eagles horizontally a little bit. Yeah, yeah. And obviously the play that set up the field goal was Joseph esai, who played well in this game. And I don't say that as sort of a pat on the back type of thing, but if you were sort of listing the Bengals top 5 players in this game, he was one of them and obviously he picks up the unnecessary roughness call. Good call. I mean, it would seem like a quarterback or not type of conversation. Mahomes, his almost his second foot was down on the white stripe by the time that push came. And I get the instinct that is taking over in that case where you're, you know, you see the first down marker and you're trying to keep it. But the thing, I mean, man. It's like they weren't in field goal range. The chiefs were maybe going to try and throw a quick pass to the sideline, get out of bounds, and then kick a 50 something yarder, but that would have been like a 60 yarder from where they were on the field at that point, and man, what a bummer. Yeah. I have to say this to and nobody is nobody's really going to care, but it means a lot to me and I think the fact that he talked after that game, I give him all the credit in the world to step up in today's climate and to just allow yourself to be and again, I think a lot of the reporters, like if anyone wants to read like a good column and I think our columnist Mike Rosenberg did a great job, he wrote about that. He was in Kansas City. I mean, I think a lot of us have more compassion and humanity than we're given credit for. But the players don't know that in that moment, you know, you've just done the worst thing, I mean, let's hope to God, this is the worst thing that ever happens to him in his life, right? And this is the worst moment. And you have to get up there and you got to talk to people about it and you got to be asked questions about it and you know it's going to be clipped and played on every radio station and TV station and blah blah blah blah blah. But I think it deserves to be said that that guy, anybody who stands up and talks and displays an ounce of humility or vulnerability in that moment, I give them a huge amount of credit. I think that's so hard to do. Absolutely. Good for him. And before I move on to the other game, a last thing I was gonna mention. I think the one predictable thing that happened in this game was like Chris Jones singled up on some of these Bengals walkers was just a monstrous mismatch and in the same way Jonathan Allen needs a nickname in order to sort of up his Q rating here. Christians is on prime time a lot. We see the chiefs a lot. So he's not quite as undercovered here, but man, he is, he's easily top 5 defender in the NFL, and boy, did he play like it in this game? Holy smokes. I mean, especially when he was lined up as an edge. He was just and it just goes to show like you think you need speed off the edge and quickness and it's not that Chris Jones isn't fast, but like if he's just running in right at the quarterback and he just topples the other guys over just move someone out of the way and not be slowed down in any way. Yeah, I mean that's just as good. And boy, now here's what you can do that against the Bengals, you can't you won't be able to do that against the eagles. And we'll talk a little bit about that because I charted lane versus Bosa in that game and some of the stuff that they were doing I thought was really interesting and some of the stuff that I think they will do to
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"And the degree of difficulty on every play has to make is just so incredibly high and he's making them. You saw, on the other side, a little bit of canary is Tony mixed in here. And it's got to be terrifying for the rest of the NFL. Yeah, I like that he did I miss that. Did he kind of, did he just hop with one leg into the end zone to be funny or was he was something going on? Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, no, I think he was being, I think he was being funny. It wasn't that funny. Man, I thought it was kind of funny. I mean, so let's say that Gary Graham link catches a wide open touchdown, you got room to run. Are you doing anything? Or are you just crossing the goal line and handing the ball to the ref? I don't know. It really put me on the spot here. What would I do? I don't think I'd have a good enough idea. I think I just, I might just step out of the one because someone else might have a better celebration. Yeah. That's cool. I was going to do, I think when in doubt you always do the Willy Wonka, right? You limp with the cane, and then you do some sort of a flip. A little tumble, a little somersault, and then a little tumble and a little something. Yeah. That's what I think. That's good. Okay. All right, I'll be open to it. Yeah, other than that, Patrick Mahomes is the best player on the planet right now. The canaries Tony stuff, it's interesting because he's not tyreek hill. But he from a ability to separate and then inability to create after the catch is the closest thing they had to Tyra Kelly. You know, sky Moore and Michael Hardman can both run. And I think they're probably straight line faster than canary stoney, but they don't have that. The initial quickness, the suddenness, or the just sort of spatial reasoning that canary is Tony has. And that's why this is, this is going to be, it's going to be a bummer for the rest of the NFL. And you always have had Justin Watson receiver of the MM two B. That you can just you can plug in there too. Yeah, I think adding, it's what smart teams do, where you present something and then you are able to layer it and then you're still running your core concepts, but now it looks completely different, right? And then you layer it again and it looks completely different. And I think kadarius Tony just flavors this all in a different way. Which is why you treat it like you do if you're the Jaguars and you almost have to get spicy and like onside kick right at the beginning of the game, you know? It was neat. I think more teams should just do that. Against good teams because you're just like, yeah, I need more possessions to beat you. I have to, I have to have the ball more than more than you do.
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"sky moore" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"For a solid chunk of his of his senior season high school, he was the number one recruit in his class. Yeah. And Jack Jones sound I don't think he was number one, but again, it's the same thing where he's a 5 star recruit and obviously that potential wasn't recognized USC in the Arizona state, but the Patriots see that and say, well, there's something here. There's clearly something here. Can we tap into maybe what that detour, the year off juco, that might have put him off the track? Can we put him back on the track? I think that's the thought process here. Again, and I feel this way with a lot of the picks. They made throughout the three days. The NFL drafts about adding good players. They added good players. The questions for me are more about the guys they did not, you know, somebody at the chat brought up collusion here. I look at this point in the draft, whether it's Jalen or morte Davis, whether it's McCollum, whether it's Tariq woolen, right? To me, it's about, you know, there's going to be this draft is the potential to have a lot of revisionist history. I think Jack Jones can play. It's just did they take, I think they took a guy, it's just that they take the right guy. Yeah, we're going to be playing that game, I think, with this draft, like you said, for pretty much every pick that they made. I would say with Cole strange is not necessarily comparing him to players at his position. It's just comparing him to players that went in there and hit daxton hill is going to be the one. Right, daxton hill went after him, quay walker went to pick after the Patriots original Duffy went with the pick the Patriots traded to Kansas City. Kair elam went to buffalo a few picks after quay walker. So those are going to be the guys that you're going to say, okay, well, you had in this ten pick range. We had all this defensive talent and we took the guard. It's not so much about Cole strange. It's not so much even about the guard position. It's just really more about who they could have taken. With taekwon Thornton in the second round, sky Moore, George pickens Alec pierce. They all went in that ten to 15 pick range. So we'll see. For better or worse, that's what these guys are up against. They're up against comparing the guys that at their position specifically in most cases, the guys that went around them and the guys that were clustered around them on the board. All right, let's move on to the running back that the Patriots selected in the fourth round, one 27 Pierre strong from South Dakota state..
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"sky moore" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"So I guess if you're going offense, maybe you're looking at the quarterbacks, if you're going defense uh, it's because they're not really married to any of these guys. It's still a lot of old regime holdovers, but yeah, I don't know, I could see them going linebacker at the spot. There are a couple of good linebackers on our board at this point. Here's what I would say, philosophically. It was interesting. And kind of digging around last off season or this past year on the coaching search stuff. Dan Campbell's name came up once or twice and as like a knot now, but probably soon kind of thing. And I just don't think, especially if you brought in like a rams, executive, to spearhead this turnaround. This ain't gonna be like a 6 year thing. I think if the lions don't win now, you know, I think it's gonna be hard for Dan Campbell to stay. So I think they're doing stuff like this needs to happen now. We need to win like 7 games this year. That would be my philosophy. So if I'm Dan Campbell, I'm pounding the door for like a playmaker, like a guy that's gonna help me score points, a guy that's gonna help me win games. So I don't know. I like to receiver for them, but you know, quarterback is interesting, right? I mean, 'cause you're gonna have a hard time recruiting, right? Yeah. You're gonna have to have a hard time recruiting a veteran guy. You know, I don't think Jimmy Garoppolo is coming there. If he has a full no trade exactly, something like that. Maybe somewhere along the line here, they end up nabbing Baker Mayfield somehow. But I don't know. And just because Christian Watson's on the board and he looks so cool, you know? He looked really cool in that offense. Went to think it's like if you need immediate playmaker, the top receivers left on our board are likely Christian Watson and sky Moore, both non power 5 guys, not that that's the end all be all, but do you want to sort of put your chips in that, I don't know what this metaphor is. On their table, is that how poker works everyone has their own table and like a little tray table and you just, I don't know. Anyways, it's Christian Watson out of North Dakota state and then sky more out of his central. No, he's western Michigan. Western Michigan. I have watched quite a bit of him. He blew people away with sort of initial quickness. I am nervous about his transition to the NFL. I think is how I sum that up. What about like, I don't know. Do you think that we could just do this for our sake because it's our mock draft and screw everybody else and we're right in there wrong. What about your boy Khalil shakir here? Oh man. Let's just, let's just take the board and like just like blow it into a million pieces, you know? In my personal mock draft. I mean, he was gone at like four. But the Gary gramling guys, the triple G mock drive. We can just do it. I mean, look, if you are a if you are a Lions fan, just know that this is, you know, sort of fill in your favorite wide receiver. So I will do that..
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"sky moore" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"That they do and I don't put a ton of stock and that type of stuff because you have tape, right? So you don't necessarily need to watch guys against air. But if you watch sky more run those routes that they did last night on the field, I thought he was the smoothest route runner out of the group and just somebody that was really effortlessly getting in and out of his cuts. He looks like a fantastic fit for the Patriots and that Julian Edelman type mold. Yeah, he also had the biggest hands of any receiver ten a quarter, ten and a half, something like that. You see it. There's a picture online of him catching the ball and you can't even really see the ball behind his hands. I have it on my combine recap on 95 the sports of dot com. Yeah, really strong night for him. I don't know that any one player did more for his stock pound for pound. I'd say it's probably either sky more or it's Calvin Austin, right? Yes. I mean, if I had to pick the biggest winner among the wide receivers last night, I would have to, I'd probably go more. It'd be one of those two, but I'd probably go more. Yeah, I think with sky Moore, a lot of people, Daniel Jeremiah said it on the broadcast. Now he's not getting out of the second round. A chance of drafting sky more, they're going to have to take them with their second round pick. The one thing that I really liked about more when you watch him is that he gets open early in the route, right? He gets such early separation where there's release package and with his stem work that quarterbacks are going to love throwing to him because you just know that he's open quickly or you can progress past him quickly if he's not getting open, but just somebody that can be a security blanket that can move the chains that can get up the field a little bit now that we know that he runs that four four one and can create with the football in his hands. Like I said multiple times now Julian Edelman, I think is actually a legitimate comp for this guy. I think he runs faster though and then Julian Edelman, Edelman was like a low four 5s guy when he worked out of the combine. So a faster potentially in a straight line, Julian Edelman is I think what we're looking at here was sky more love that Calvin Austin you mentioned him from Memphis really, really good workout. Basically the best athlete there besides Christian Watson. 5, 8, a 170 pounds soaking wet. That's the issue with him. Talk about Juan del having a smaller frame. This guy's a tight, this guy's tiny, right?.
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"sky moore" Discussed on Patriots Beat
"That sort of gadget player. You can line up all over the formation that devil's Samuel type, I think Wanda Robinson really fits the need of that explosive bulk area. And they'd have to cut coach them up a little bit on the finer points of being a receiver again. He did just switch to receiver two years ago. So he's new to this. And I know we have our, you know, we're worried about certain areas of the coaching staff, but I think him working with Troy Brown, that would be a great fit. Basically the parts of the game, I think Robinson is missing the parts of his game. I think he needs to, not missing, but needs to really round out are what Troy Brown was so great at as a player. So I see that as a mix. So I think either one is a great addition, I don't know that either one on their own is the difference maker, you want to pair this guy with an X, whether it's a first round pick, you know, one of the true X's I guess not your haunts and their system, but or probably more likely a free agent or a veteran acquisition, like the Mike Williams or maybe a Calvin Ridley, but I think either one of these guys can give the offense a dynamic they really need. Yeah, so this is a conversation of an explosive, more explosive ball carrier and Wanda Robinson versus the route runner in sky more, right? They both win, they both win in similar fashion, but they do in different ways. Similar areas of the field, right? Where they are targets were and where their touches were. It would be very, there would be a lot of overlap, but they do it in different ways, exactly. Sky Moore has some of the best feet that I've seen of any wide receiver prospect in this draft. He can get off press coverage really sudden quick movements at the line of scrimmage to get off press separates well at the top of the route. And although he is not game breaking like wandel is in the with the ball in his hands, I like how he slithers with the ball, right? I think he has that kind of Julian Edelman like duck and weave in and out of contact. Maybe not somebody that's going to run away from the whole defense when he gets in the open field. But certainly sets up blocks well down the field kind of navigates and alludes tacklers and wiggles in and out of contact. I like those elements of his game, but it's his route running that really stands out. The concern that I have with one day is the same as I have in the first round version of this is treylon Burke's, right?.
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"So this is a ridiculously explosive, good athlete, but all of his targets in college. His average depth of the target was a little bit over 9 yards because he's either getting balls at the line of scrimmage or near the line of scrimmage and asked to run with the football or he's getting contested catch targets down the field. There is nothing else, right? It's either behind the line stuff or the deep ball. There's nothing else in between. That obviously worries me a ton about his projection with the Patriots. Yeah, I get it to patriots thing. I like him as a player, but you know, is he gonna kill Harry as he AJ Brown, this is where it's something I said I'm gonna make a point of focusing on this off season. Nature versus nurture. I think trail on Burks, a lot of his success is going to be predicated on where he lands. We've seen the Patriots struggle to develop that kind of wide receiver. If they draft trade on Brooks, it's a Mulligan on the kill Harry. And Brooks may be a better player, but they've still got to be able to maximize them and use them to his strengths, which they couldn't do with tequila. So trelon Burke's worries me. Can we bring up there's been a lot of comments about sky Moore. Yeah let me get to we got a lot of receivers. Everybody wants to talk more as a receiver. Yeah, I haven't started. I know he's a receiver, but I wanted to do a few others, I'm going down here. I'm back away. There's a lot of comments. We appreciate you guys. George pickens. From Georgia. Probably a first round top 50 talent if he stays healthy the entire year last year at Georgia and doesn't have some of the speed bumps. Let's call him in the road earlier on in his career. Really, really talented guy. Easy, easy speed. And when I watch him run rats, if you watch any receiver run routes, you can just tell, by the way, that defensive backs play a guy if he's got real speed, right? If you feel it, you can see it. And when you watch George pickens run, whether it's running a vertical over the top or then running the vertical rad tree at the intermediate level where he's snapping routes off and creating separation at the top of the route by pushing vertical. He's got the full repertoire of downfield vertical brakes or the intermediate stop routes, comebacks along the sideline where he loses coverage because of that vertical stem. Yeah, I like pickings. He's fast. He plays the game with the nasty streak, which you love, especially you know, the Patriots love that at the wide receiver position. So yeah, he might be in between. I don't know that he's the best receiver on the board at 21 and I think he's off the board. By the time the Patriots make their pick in the second round, he's maybe a guy they trade back and grab maybe like in the early early portion of the second round would be probably how they end up with them..