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The Bloody Consequences of the Scooter Revolution
"The. Santa Monica is your typical California beach town seaside boardwalks are lined with palm trees fringed by milky sand always packed with people. If you wonder along the path you end up at the world famous pier which has starred in shows like Baywatch in movies, like Forrest Gump. The pier is full of food stands fisherman tourists and street performers guys like David Peterson. I'm a street performer on the Santa Monica pier in California. I sing and dad's. I do hip hop. Pop rock and Latin music. How? That's something. Davies got this dramatic egged. He's out the shirtless oiled up and gladiator style skirt in a mosque Zora head dancing kicking in singing like he's in a karaoke. Who's been dancing on the pier for years now and says a new crowded encroach on his turf lately? People riding electric scooters. I was performing for a group of people maybe several dozen when I was hit from behind by a bird scooter Santa Monica became ground zero for the electric scooter sharing boom last September. When a start up called bird began spreading vehicles all around town. And as is lying there on the deck. I looked up and I saw a young man with a scruffy beard looking down at me from bird scooter, and he looked down at me. And he said what the F dude, and then he took off. So as a hit and run it was only. The Knicks morning Davey realized how badly he'd been heard. So I went to the emergency room at UCLA where I found out that I had a broken arm and that my right bicep had actually been severed from my lower arm. I had to have my bicep surgically reattached to my lower arm. And that's a major surgery that takes the least a year and a half to two years to completely recover from. Hi, I'm Josh Bruce in for Brad stone via Cavill this week on decrypted. We're exploring the unintended consequences of sudden rise of scooter sharing services scooter startups, like the lime scooting spin have arrived in over a hundred cities around the world, while some people think scooters could usher in a whole new era of urban transport of view them as a danger patients with scooter related injuries have been streaming into emergency departments with everything from gravel rash. Taking russians. These injuries are obviously intended. Although some might argue they refer see with scooters the question now becomes these things safes. It should be and who pairs responsibility for the accents that do happen. Stay with us. Starting late last year scooters appeared virtually overnight and dozens of cities around the US many people love jumping on a scooter and cruising to their next destination screwing around for as little as a couple of bucks. Then they could leave the scooter wherever they liked ready for the next rider to pick up. He was a service that was an immediate hit with consumers. It was also one that should have appealed to city officials in search of ways to reduce use or at least. That's what the visas who poured hundreds of millions of dollars into them saw the first two scooter sharing companies bird and lime said they were shocked by the unexpected an instantaneous public enthusiasm for their product. They're also taken aback by how polarizing they became Skoda companies have drawn criticism as lawbreakers because they often failed to run the plans by city officials people who didn't use the scooters sold them as an eyesore in a nuisance and within months. Sensational stories about grizzly scooter, injuries were hitting the headlines safety issues. Driving a major backlash from city governments and Santa Monica. Elsewhere officials rushed to set up permit programs and begin quitting applicants about their plans for public safety. Skated companies have always see you're doing the abased we've suggested people wear helmets and even given away helmets for free. But the biggest message own safety. Is that scoot is actually the problem khaza and reshaping the straits to make them safer as a jolt for the city governments themselves. Hundreds of scooter injuries have been reported in the United States getting total headcount as nearly impossible though. Because no one's compiling firm statistics at hit stories about elderly pedestrians being not unconscious on footpaths teenagers with severe facial burns as with no helmet flying. He'd I are the handle handlebars. And in some cases, even deep sworn in we awaiting to learn the identity of a twenty one year old killer crashing Cleveland over the weekend. Yeah. She was hitting downtown riding in electric scooter man, riding in electric scooter is dead after being hit by an SUV Lee is a sad. I for Dallas or writer of the new electric scooters died after falling it happened over the weekend. I spoke to a physician in Atlanta who recently treated a patient with a traumatic brain injury who was unconscious for days after an accident. Another doctor said that more than a hundred patients have wound up in one emergency department in Los Angeles from scooter related injuries with some lending in intensive care for. Weeks while e Robbie an emergency room, doctor at one of UCLA's medical sieges in Santa Monica told me the most common scooted injuries usually to the face. Just goodbye. You know, your face landing on the ashville. Then thing you face in. And that doing you face with all sorts of. Vessel rations that will take plastic surgeon to work for hours tried to clean your face and get the dirt officials. Don't that do for this? He said he say's a load of overpaid. Ick injuries that happen when people stretch out their arms while trying to break the fool you start by breaking your wrist as one then fence with before the elbow and then transmitting all the way to the shoulder along the rubes baking rips sponsoring your lung. After we started looking into scooter injuries. People came out of the woodwork willing to share their personal stories we head from Daria Kingston, California victim, San Andreas in New York and paid Affleck's and Los Angeles. The car, and I was scoring down the hill going home and the brakes launch on their own has about that time. My scooter power hit in off at full speed. And I fell off the scooter smile on his face just went till kind of a look of terror that he just smashed right into the front of my bike. I don't remember anything up to the point where I was flying in the air. Unfortunately, my helmet didn't protect my chin, and it was severely bruised swollen numb and purple for several weeks. I think the only thing keeping my teeth from shattering where my invisible braces, I got a head a concussion 'cause I hit my face and Mike right toe nail came off. And I am now in six weeks of pain, physical therapy. So I'll be able to been my leg as I'm learning to be able to walk again. And my. Left hand I have permanent damage on my finger. I cannot make a fifth in the more. He landed on his forehead, and he was laying on the pavement with his forehead bleeding. And and initially in a really unresponsive state has is rolling around the bed and just not really moving his body. Just looking to be at a state of shock. It's pretty gruesome, but it's important to put these anecdotes into perspective. People have taken well over twenty million rides online and booed and lease than a year for context in two thousand fifteen more than one thousand cyclists were killed in the United States, and there were almost four hundred seventy thousand cycling related injuries. According to the centers for disease control and prevention, interestingly, don't tell me that you're actually more prone to Xidan riding a scooter than a bike when you paid Ling on a bike your entire body is engaged you're paying more attention to your spayed in other his it's on the road. But ONA scooter, you kind of lulled into a sense of complacency just relaxing cruising along pushing a button to accelerate. Then when you do hit something or knocked off the scooter, you fall unprepared unin gauged and more often than not unprotected because most people don't use helmets. When I've been on a scooter I didn't have one around but actually not wearing a helmet is by far. The biggest safety issue, according to pretty much older doctors, I spoke to you know, we can fix broken bones in the arm shoulder, we stitch shoe clean you up. But if you beat your head is always some damage that you're not gonna be able to. They'll be all scooter riders in California have been required to our helmet by law, but bird recently convinced the state to change the rules governor Jerry Brown signed the Bill last month that allows Dulce accrues California's streets on scooters without a helmet, just like the kennel bikes it takes effect on January first. Okay. So scooters aren't as safe as they should be. I think that's actually something that pretty much. Everyone agrees on the scooter companies say that a big part of the answer is for cities to create protected lanes and do other things to slow cars down bird didn't make anyone available for an interview. But they did send a statement in which a company spokesperson said as bird partners with cities. We are putting safety front and center of what we do. But Taylor Bennett director of public affairs at lime. So the responsibility laid both with private companies and city officials. So there's a notice on us notice on cities to really make sure that we're putting safety first we are looking at our roadways in a way that considers new mobility options tipping talking about this for decades American cities fundamentally built for cars. So for now scooter riders in many cases have to choose between sharing the road with cars, which is dangerous or sharing the sidewalk with pedestrians which. About dangerous and a legal the Skoda companies have been Kia full to limit their own legal responsibility. Both good and lime have clauses and user agreements steering riders. And to binding arbitration they also have clauses prohibiting class actions. But the strength of those agreements is already being challenged by personal injury. Lawyers like Catherine lira who was based in Santa Monica when I saw these scooters out on the street in front of our house. I immediately thought, wow, these are dangerous and someone's going to be injured soon after that Catherine put a page up on a website cooling scooter victims to get in touch. And she said the response was swift the phone started ringing, and they haven't stopped since then Catherine sees she's now receiving a cool day from a free Skoda victim. She blames the companies which she says is putting profit of public safety earlier this month, Catherine filed a lawsuit against booth in line on behalf of nine people who have been injured by scooters. One of them is ask. Street before David Peterson Catherine seed, she plans to file at least a dozen more personal injury claims in coming months, I fully placed the blame on the scooter companies for the injuries that are happening. They dump these scooters on the city's without first consulting with the cities and making sure the proper rules and regulations were in place. And so the cities were blindsided by these and had to scramble to educate the public about the rules that apply and come up with new rules that apply. And so had they worked with the cities before they drop these scooters. I think a lot of these injuries would have been avoided cities a catching up to the Skoda craze by launching pilot programs in August, Santa Monica launched a pilot that allows two thousand scooters from four companies booed lime left in jump Portland. Oregon also has a pilot program underway and soda. LA tonight. Just a fear scooter companies say they're writers will be safer as more scooters hit the streets and drivers get used to seeing them in the road. They also say education campaigns and better scooters will also improve safety Taylor. From line told me the company has just released its the generation Skoda trying to make them Sipho with every upgrade limes latest model comes with big ties, which immoral to Paul. How's breaks on the back wheels? Not just the front a studio frame and Joel suspension and Taylor also said they always advise riders to wear helmets or stances. You should always be wearing helmets. We just ordered a quarter million helmets and going to give those out at the local level making sure folks have access to free Hallett's Taylor told me that he knows helmets. Don't look coal and that the kind of awkward to carry. So the company is investigating collapsible. Helmets says a future option? The scooter companies are also calling on local officials to make city infrastructure. More scooter. A friendly. They want protected bike lanes and designated parking to protect both riders and pedestrians. I asked halo. Whether the company knew putting these schools on the straits would inevitably result in some exits. Yeah, I think when you roll out a new technology. There's going to be some positives in some in some things that require some fixing and tweaking and this is brand new like as quickly as unfolded. It's it's our job to help address those, and that's, you know, with our new scooter all the safety products, and that will continue to evolve being hands. So I used to ride a push scoot it to school when I was a little kid, but I have never been on elite tricks Gouda. I know that you recently went to San Francisco one of the things that you'll immediately notice from being on one is that that memory of being a kid and being on a scooter, and it's a good thing or a bad thing. I mean, I'm adult, man. And I'm riding on a scooter it felt a little bit silly. But it's kind of fun. Put me in like the moment will you on the sidewalk where you on the road? How you riding it? Yes. So when I was there I had read up on scooters with a little bit and knew that you're not supposed to be on the sidewalk. So I grabbed the scooter I went straight into the street, and I took off there's a bike lane on the street. I was in. So that was fine. It starts off really quick. I was a little bit surprised by that. And then it took me like half a block or a block. And then I felt like I was cruising around pretty comfortably that I cut onto a street. That didn't have a bike lane was pretty narrow. And then I got nervous the cars. Seem very close, and you really feel exposed. Yeah. One of the things that'd be afraid of someone opening the car door just knocking me out. Absolutely. And for me like I had a backpack on. So that was fine. But I think people who are carrying things might have trouble. Yeah. Feel like I'd struggle because I usually carry a him big to work, and I was thinking if I was going to ride one omit kind of mile distance that I walked from the subway stop to the office. I don't know where I'd put my bag. My my three year and a half year old daughter actually commutes to school on a scooter, it's not an electric scooter. But and she carries a bunny, obviously. And so we tie the bunnies. Arms around the handlebars and that works for her. Maybe that would work for your bags. So we have scooters are one hundred cities around the world. And from most of the people I talked to they believed that scoot is here to stay in the going to be a permanent fixture now cities. Do you do you actually think that going to change the way we move? I, you know, I do think that there is something to this argument in San Francisco where where I wrote on the there's this this distance value about half a mile, maybe two miles. It's too long to walk. You don't wanna get into car trains, not going to take you there? And having these scooters all over the place at least downtown you could just jump on one and ride there and five minutes, or whatever it felt good like this was actually a practical way to get around in a dense city centre. So let me ask you like someone who hasn't been on his scooter, and has just spent a wild kind of really delving into how dangerous these things are do you think that the fear of injury might keep you off of them? I think it was definitely a bad idea for made talked to doctors about. Traumatic brain injuries. We have patients were unconscious for days before I even jumped on border Skoda. I like the idea of them. I think that the obey really fun to ride, but I'm also an overly cautious person. So I feel like after all these interviews. I'm definitely not going to get on board. So one less rider one lease right of assure. So let's get back to another scooter skeptic David Peterson the street performer who got hit on the Santa Monica. Pier. He had a few ideas for measures his city should consider. And I think that the scooter should be required to have license plates. When I was lying there on the deck looking up at the person who hit me there was no way to identify. Once. They took off the scooter should also have to make a little noise like a Hummer something. So you can hear them coming Davies, right? That pedestrians will have to learn to look out for scooters is they buy. But ultimately the decision to jump on board comes down to the rider. If people don't feel safe on scooters that could be a big problem for the company's. No, meta who is technically to blame. Would. I get on these scooter again or even suggest somebody else did no way not on a bet. I think I'll stick the skydiving. And that's it for this week's thanks for listening. Have you been in a scooter accident? We wanna hear your story. You can Email us at decrypted at Bloomberg don't need or I'm on Twitter at live Cavill. And I'm at Josh rivers fan of the show. These take a moment to rate and review us it helps new listeners find the show. This episode was produced by get Cari, and Magnus Henriksson s story was an Vandeweghe. Thanks, also to Brad stone, Akito, Emily view, so endless Smith Frenchie skin. Levy is heat of Bloomberg podcasts. We'll see you next week.
65: The Cycling Podcast Fminin | June 2019
"You're listening to the cycling podcast Femina an association with rather, the fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride and watch with raffle in twenty nineteen estate partner, ES education. I and canyon Schramm. You're listening to the cycling podcast feminine. Brought to you by Skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap inside one race one scientist at a time. This is our time. Hello, money and shit should I'm with Ruas Manley. Richard Orleans, Shinoui. Hello. Hello, everyone. How are you both at speed in a month or so? With the visit on the Jiro, haven't we? But here we are. What a snooze. It was a valiant job of making it much more excited than than and she was, I think that she, thank you. Thank you. I say, I keep going back to the episode with no fancy rich, but you weren't there. But the one with the three arrested gingerbread woman, I'm the and the Johanna 's, defer going round Trimble. Remember? On that. Episode very meeting accent. Listen to your coffee. Wonderful service, whereas mine. All this to get you coffee. Anyway. No. I mean you know, we'll say the site can Paul what slicker than this, isn't it? There isn't coffee being delivered now. You got anyway. Listen, we've got to, we've got to look forward on reflect haven't way. We're looking forward to the women's tour and from next week, we will be giving that nightly coverage all six stages must be a big. Thank you, to Skoda whose message you heard at the top of the show there, and they've come back as a sponsor of this podcast. Femina add to carry us through the women's tour on for the rest of two thousand nineteen. So thank you very much to them, Bank, grateful. And I'm just awaiting delivery of the car ferry. I loved back rock than we had Karuk. But she what we're getting rooms margin if that one is just been branded all year around the country, and we got as long as you get a car. Thank be, we'll be fine person bicycle might not be the most practical, forgetting women's tear. No. But we're back up did see Orla. We're gonna fight briefly as well on our. Are appearance or periods are attendance. The British podcast awards a couple of weeks ago where the second podcast Femina was nominated in the best sports podcast category, and it was very glitzy, affair wasn't it? What's of people, I mean, we have and a couple years ago, and it fell our big r baths are more organized, more prestigious? Well, I have not see us guys. How you go? Who did you see who were the big celeb- sports? I saw Richard near. No. I heard his face is very peak feel life. For radio. No, Michael sheen. The award Luntz Dustin block, the phone maker, and husband of Tom. Yes, sparkling white trousers. He was. They were so impressive. I actually then went and wore a pair of jeans on air, just because I thought inspired richer to wearing them right now, some spoke, the white houses. He else's Jamie off of Mehta. Chelsea. What should? GM eli. And shy around my bet. I have to say, I developed a huge guard crush on. She was hilarious carry out, Lloyd. She does the grief cost, which I haven't actually that's one of the ones that one. Yeah. Being about grief, you know. But she is Larry us. She was pretty brilliant. She's, she's struck just the right sort of tune between giving it the seriousness deserve mental being very, very funny and very, you know, able very spontaneous, very able to react to unexpected, you know, Blas of music or things. So it was the one, the one the one of the night was the m award winners, weren't allowed to make speeches. So the people presenting the prize, we come up and make a speech or say something funny, then present the award and they warred winner would come up and just be sort of ushered off that was a bit old and weighed except that was sort of not real was bent the longer than went on. It was, according to the, the, the prize winner microphone, where there were a couple of winners, who, who, who sort of seemed to just take on themselves to say something. But anyway, it was a great evening, wasn't that Orleans? We sat there awaiting the sports kinda three. We saw have said to. Each other. Would you be happy with a place in the top three then you mentioned and we agreed that we would be while secretly thinking? Yeah, but we'd really like. Bronze-medal. We got bronze behind foodball podcasts and I think we're we were pretty pleased with weren't. Oh, yeah. I was just actually because. Don't forget, it was the only podcast it was even shortlisted that dealt with women's mourned. And I think that and it says a lot, and it's quite growing. Breaking I was shocked with it really because, you know, we are in each sport on Rhenish version on each corner of that in each sport. So to get that level of recognition was brilliant. We should this many sports podcasts around as well. I mean that's just thousand thousand so to be oh my God. What is yeah. You know, very busy. Busy seeing the podcast day. So, yeah, we'll Flynn cute. Orlan rousson. Thank you. Everyone who listens to this like Femina, and it was a real that feel like. A nice moment, didn't it have recognition, and it's giving us sort of spring in our stride for the women's tour starting next week. But the has been a lot racing over the last few weeks or have you got a brief news roundup for. Can I just say, I'm. But I was listening to one episode of the second podcast from the Jiro, and I think maybe twenty minutes in with Lionel says, anyway, let me finish off the news roundup, and you're still on the news roundup, and yet I get castigated for twenty minutes enough duration, but anyway, did most of the Pocono, it was so maybe Richard long winded isn't. Long-winded isn't the interject it every night? Again, maybe it would anyway I'm finding myself on the news. I'm looking forward to the stories of the stage stages next week with all your local references yet I was going to. Last year when we talk about the woman through. But yes, for now, I will just simple news roundup, so we have had the tour of Chongming island three day sprinter's stage race. And it was a clean sweep for Lorena Vivus the twenty year old tried it for Parkwood L, Valkenburg took all three stage wins on the role of delivering on the promise that she'd chew and all spring nice stage. One was her first women's to women's world here wind remarkably she's an old hand on it by the end of the week. Only her second year as a senior. So we've been right to keep an eye on her all season and the gen tier of California bulls domains dominated with two stage wins and the overall with Anna Vanderberg at the team, brought the previous two winners in the form of debris and defending champion, Casey hall Vanderberg took stage one obsessing any expectation of a sprint finish. And then she held onto that race lead for the remaining two stages. So the race gave us the first ever summit finish up bolt here, not went to kitty hall. He had the support of Vanderberg on the. Booth crossing the line almost together with Ashley moment pass you in third. Now, you may remember when Vanderberg and one in twenty seventeen shooting took it by one second over kitty hole. So it was expected to be from edible pairing, with whole having joined bulls this year, and will indeed finish. Second on g c head of Mulan pass you for C, C Said's, three was taken by at least hip, Osamu Valkar silence cycling onto a mecca mean I never know how to pronounce properly and McCue, Maine bureau. That's what I'd go bureau. Just void. We'll go with Beira g c taken by Lisa longer bore Gainey of track. Sega fratto. She got her first win of the year and her. I wear actually in almost a full calendar year. Amanda Spratt from Chilton Scott with second, soya politics of Allie, Cipollini in third, we had stage wins for Jillian, Dora amount of Sprott Taylor was. And of course he's along working. Then we had the law tutoring ladies cheer on the it was a win for Katherine HAMAs of W. N T Rutter Pru cycling pretty lem Mattison of team somewhere in second. And third was Louis or bidet Jimenez of movie star with stage wins for Barbara Gua risky, March about Anneli, vita Haina. Lisa Klein, Ellen Van Dyke and Alina cheeky name in other news. The Austrian mountain biker, Christina Coleman force Nur has been suspended after being connected with operation outer LA's, the blood doping ring, which seems to be never ending the new defied of her. Potential anti-doping real violation based on information received from the law enforcement. Authorities in Austria. There's news round up the fastest clothing in the world tool. The home of cycling with character ride 'em watch with rather in twenty nineteen as they partner e f education, fast and canyons ram. I really love my rough upshot because. Yeah, they have the best fits individual fits, and I have a good feeling. I can read my guess long as once. Hey, I'm Klein and I'm racing for canyons REM. I think the most important thing is that down pretty individuals. So we can choose our jemmy the length. So, yeah, it's like a kind of second skin and we have different fabrics for every temperature. So there's no excuse to don't ride your bike. I think the rough a bit shots. I quite the best in the world. Thank you very much. The two Rafeh headline sponsor of the cycling podcast on the cycling podcast, Femina, their support is very much pre. She keeps us going all year and Frankie Rafeh 'em, if you want to have a look at some of the, the, the Rafeh, bib shorts mentioned in that clip there, go to Rafeh dot CC. So that was that easy raffle through that or a lot. There's been a lot sing and not that that was that was a pretty speedy. It wasn't a Koa peer pressure. What if you lied? Well, what we should've remember, though, also is that the, the person who, well, you guys were telling me the person he won a lot of the pocus was, was a poet, really all it should stick to her guns on the free jazz. You know. Yeah. Yes. Because we might actually bump ourselves up the standings, next. Yeah. Yeah. We'll give George Puerto run for his money. Well. And so the I mean, I guess that the two the two big ones were Biro unto have California more than they really on the bureau, quite a return to form or finally, coming to form for treks afraid of the new team, which is showing flashes hasn't it this year. But that was a very strong overall performance LIZA Longo board Guinea oversee won the race. It's a very tough races in the Basque country and, and pretty hilly Taylor. Wilde won a stage as well. I'm so that it looks like that team might be clicking through the gears. Lisa Longo, born is coming to the women's tour next week with a very strong team. She's strong as any on paper, a thing, track Sigfredo. And, but that was that, that you managed to catch any of that either of you two didn't catch it at the time, but co up with it. And I think the key to track check because I have one plenty of things but just not women's world tour standard races by think what was keys. I think I saw different stop. Of racing from they seem to be aggressive on every stage. I mean, caught on go was attacking and on applica- was in the break, and they were always on the front, or going off, and trying to animate the racist one, I think, before this point, we've seen them, kind of sit back a bit and expect to be counterattacking a lot more. And I think, really, they made their own luck by being a little bit more animated and trying to get into every single move that was going that race. And then obviously paid off with the, the stage wins and the g position of local boogie name. An EMMY Welby in hindsight. When we look back in the season that we think that it was actually matures way to start a new team you know, there's no need for them really to hit the ground running. They did they, they had a win died under they think, but it's full of season pros who knew what they're doing. So it may well be that they've got certain targets for the year. Year, and they're focused on not above anything else. Movable guinea. I mean she's seems to she used to be so consistent. And she seems last year or so to been plagued by Bev inconsistent. Onus problems, and this was a beverage turn to form for her, which, you know, when you look to the team, and they were the writers, they resembling last year over the winter, you'll eat the hers, being one of the one of the leaders didn't you really see what is amazing is that looking at their results, and obviously the first world to win. But actually seven of the thirteen writers on that on their squad have won races this year, which really speaks to kind of across the board talent across the board. We've had winsome longer bogie from wiles from Fanti from quote unr- go from Lupi sto from winder and from Paternoster. So I mean actually they've won. And they the winds have been spread across the team, which I. Think when we because there's such a big team, I think we think they're going to win everything. But actually they have been quietly getting on with their business. And that's kind of a main when I say that we may look back and decide that it was quite a mature way for them to start the season really, because who's expecting them to, to win from the off us, you know, we're the ones saying that they have the quality and the caliber and experience. We winning races left, right and center, but they are winning in maybe a different way along aboard gain, not in a different way. That's ridiculous. When you doing, but you know what I mean it's not it's they're not all welter race wins. But at least Longo bore gaining hasn't won since last year. The Mediterranean games, mood Rhys. She was incredibly consistent to the women's to and not as a race it sits. She won the minding, classifications minded classification last year. Kim sick and the overall g see so if she's coming into form again, she was such a parole. Ian addition to the race as a whole I find last year because she just brought so much sparked. If she's coming into four nine ahead of the women's, then that would be brilliant to see the women's tour of California is well, I mean that was another team. Another. Team around him that are big expectations. Both dolans were dominant there 'em and out of under Bracken won the race in the end. Katie whole who is the winner last year and really dominated American racing last year, a very surprised sailing over the winter for bulls domains. I mean, she's kind of pure climber and she has that, that challenge that love American writers, face of adapting to European racing and on small roads and so on, but editor of California, and that's you know, part of the world where she lives in an oversee. She where she spends time training. And, and she loves my body in particular, and she went up there, and I spoke to her this week just buy that race in about who she was at that thing to life in a new team European team. And some European racism, more targets are this year as well. She was on her altitude training camp mammoth lake in California where she spends a lot of time. And here's what she told me. I mean KTAR. Was going to ask you, first of all, the, the tour of California visa race, you know, really well and have one 'em. What was it like this year? Right. Writing for your new team. Different experience. I mean still that race. I've been to four times before with my team, but I had never been with a team of the caliber of bulls and having another leader like Ana there. And so I think the wasn't sure exactly what to expect on Asni at the beginning of their race. What my goals were for the race. And I said, for either you or you to win this race. And she started laughed and thought that was funny. But we went one to the race in. So I feel it was pretty successful. To I mean, as far as the team was concerned that they also go in with both of you as potential leaders. We sort of planned on either of us, like I think you don't know who's gonna climb faster on the finish like mount Baldy, and there's really no shaking it. So just leaving that open to both of us said, climb are to put a spoon, good position climb our hardest to the top mount Baldy was the team plan. And you, you won the stage and you finished second overall M. I mean how did that compare for you? How are you finding the experience of writing in such a strong team, especially with somebody like on a vendor? Bragan. One of the things that I think, has been the coolest for me is getting to just train with Ana and kind of talk to her about how she thinks about race thing, how, yeah, just her mind about it because I think that that's such a big part of the sport. And getting to be just up close. Ten learn from one of the greatest, there's ever been. As is a thing, I'm really, really grateful for. Can you share any of you the secrets have who have you learned and is there anything in particular relate to training our approach to racing? I think just in general, how -portant your mental state is, I think this is the thing we all know, but I think just seeing on decide she's going to be in a certain place, Mr. physician at a certain point in the race and just doing it and not letting any of the small things get in the way is a thing that I'm still trying to learn from her. The punt apart from that, and Bingham. The, the new team is obviously. To Europe and racing some of the some more of the races here, and I know that, you know, you've had a few years on one team and racing a lot in the US and that you are bit of a crossroads I think when when you're team came to an end and what to do. How has joining bulls? Domains 'em helped his defeat will, like you have kind of a new perspective. New lease of life. How has it felt to be par team? I really feel like I have exciting new challenges here. Like, really trying to be successful in Europe is a whole 'nother level that being successful in the US. It's so yeah, that's the expectation here is that you're, you're gonna win some races, or at least play a critical role in helping your teammate winsome egregious in Europe and for me. I think that was like just the challenge in the pressure that I needed to keep keep progressing sport. You've spoken before a by high, like of American writers, the physical aspect, you know, in the racing on smaller roads and. Oh, that kind of stuff can can, you know, inhibit your performance, how have you find that so far? It's not something you feel that you're developing. I think yes, I'm still still working on it. It's definitely still a challenge for me. I think as soon as the bunch gets smaller like in the mountains and stuff. I have a much easier time but really fighting for important corners with the whole bunch is still a thing. I need to do better, and I'm really, I guess learning how to use my teammates, and how to rely on some of their strengths to help me with some of the things I'm show. I'm struggle with. I don't like to fight that much. So it's always hard. It harder because your team is has got such a tradition of winning are dominating racism. I guess there's a lot of expectation from the team from yourself from people watching the sport from other writers as well as has has not increased the, the pressure that you feel in races to, to do the job as well as just right wealth, but to do a job for the team. Pressure. I think really wanting to do right by my teammates. It is. What really motivates me is they, they want me to do something. And I want to do it to the best of my ability, and I think historical domination of the team is not a thing I contemplate too much when racing. You mentioned your mammoth lakes. Just not. I think you go there law. Don't use is that you training has always been part of your at preparation. Especially for some of the races, we have here in America. We have a couple races at altitude. I really feel out to prep is important for races at also tiered right in perfect for the Jiro, which is less outs, too. But I still think that this is the right kind of prep for me just with such a long and hard and hot race that preparing your words, also quite hot. We'll be good. Good prep on the June Rosa. I mean, I knew that was a big part of, you know, one thing to join a European team. And have a go at that race what, what, what your hopes going into that race, Willoughby's, same turf count, -fornia where, you know, you'll be parv strong team. And it'll be whoever's strongest in the race. Or do you have your own? I'm visions there. Just like did about California where it would be nice to win. But as long as one of my teammates wins, I feel really happy to, especially if I can make myself critical in the success of the team. I think. On us just really really, really strong. And so I'll be writing for her, and that's an honor for me. And maybe I'll get some my own opportunities to. But it's yeah. We'll see. It's going to be a it's gonna be a fighting Jiro. 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That's hirees dot com forward slash cycling. So I was Katie whole bulls domains, right. Or thirty two years old and race for many years. Few nights at healthcare in the US team folded at the end of last year. Of course, I think it was she was a bit. Crossroads about whether even carry on, and this, this new challenges, obviously, breathe fresh life in Turkey and her in Beijing. And so she's very excited the Olympic road race in Tokyo next year. But she's clearly been signed by both domains for her claiming ability, because she is, she's an excellent claimer. She showed very well course last year, which was a very, very, claiming course, wasn't a m but you would imagine that it's racist, light rose that she's been signed for. And you were the magic. To, to provide support in the in the in the mountains for Vander Brigham particular. I think it'd be really interesting to see what she can do as in a full season in Europe because she rode the Gerusa before in twenty fourteen her first season as a professional finished sixty seventh. And, and she said that she phase like she's got unfinished business with it nearly I think she was very disappointed last year given the season that she had when she won every major stage race in North America that her team, warrant given a wildcard invite to the Jiro says sushi probably Dole's feel like she's good unfinished business, but it's interesting that she says that she's sort of struggles with the bike racing element if you know elbows, and whatnot, because they always wonder hard writers, do make that transition from American racing North American racing I should say to European racing, you knew because they have these wide open avenues compared to the tiny twisty roads of Europe and I ran an interview that she did early. The sheer she'd been in a training camp to kalpa with. New-ball stolman team is. And she said that she was amazed she had her eyes opened. But how much training you could do the bike? And also, but how you can handle a bike by watching the rest of the bulls, Dolan's writers, and I find that remarkable and also very exciting really at the age of thirty because she did come into the sport quite late. She was studying a PHD when she started writing, or bike sushi, clearly is someone who's got a huge natural ability. But if she wants to keep learning, then she's still got huge potential, I think, to go further and she's, and she's arguably on the best team for that writing next to unavowed Debrecen, if, if they can they, you know, they always manage to. Balanced ambitions on that team. So it could be a real exciting year for her. I think. Hi. My name's Sarah story. I'm a cyclist with story racing and I suppose Goethe's campaign to close the gender gap in cycling, one race one cyclist at a time. This is our time. Yes. Thank you very much indeed, to scored up for support thing. Cycling podcast Femina at the women's tour and for the rest of two thousand nineteen very grateful to them, and we're looking ahead to the women's tour, of course and our, our daily coverage starts on Monday. I we're heading off there on Sunday, pecking you both up. They are poor. Hopefully in a school dot. On one hand, they one from saying, vices phonies, we'll be in different levels of energy. I think rose will balanced police say probably same level of energy, but different causes. Like, you know. Yeah. For mothering one for be Henning surveys. Curry hosts and Beccles. The week. Oh well on Sunday night. And yeah, we're looking forward to our second year of covering the race in this way. Six day race this year as opposed to five day race last year. And well, I spoke to make Bannet the race organizer. He lease after the tour of Britain on the women's tour, and he's obviously very involved in designing the course and come out with a route that will be challenging an attractive. And here's what you said about this year's race before we get the let's just preface. Why we've we've done what we've we've, we've done in increasing the length of the rice. We also the anybody should gain an and make any Tuffah if you like. And suddenly is that is that we we very aware that would probably several ride is missing from the tall. I think there's five missing from the top ten last year, and we wanted to put that right and address that as an issue because we, we brag about this being the biggest and the best women's. As rice in the world, and it is a many friends, but one of the fronts was probably lacking, some of the top ten riders. So we've, we've addressed that issue this year in making it with that question the toughest edition ever with eight and a half probably nine thousand meters of elevation gain, and we put this into the back end of the rice on the final three state of the final three stages of thing. We've got some two thousand meters elevation game. And we've got a hilltop finish at Dowsett and a grueling stage in, in Paris, and then the final stage into come off and the last two stages believe me, it Burton tacit doesn't gonna use the expression killed them than the finals two stages will we have to. So we've addressed the difficulty if you like and the. Technical challenges that sit within that as well. But we've also addressed that we need stages for the likes of Kirsten Ville, the sprinters and. Kareem Rivera to a certain degree. And we've also addressed the issue that we have lots of cycling infrastructure in this country, which we very rarely in the cooling, our grant tours highlights, and that's why we've gone to Kent Cyclo park for stage two, but we early because, you know, we need the rice to settle down to rhythm. So we've attracted far more riders in the top ten this show, we've got new venues, Oxfordshire Powis in Kamaluddin feature for the first and cans, of course, the Cyclo park. And so we think this year, we've got something for everybody whilst making it the hardest addition ever, you mentioned a few of the top writers, especially the writers that, like tough tough coins were missing last year and was there dialogue with teams in the writers, or was it just something that you thought, we, we should address. Well, both actually there wasn't a lot of dialogue with the teams but we did speak to some of and they said it could do being a little bit tougher. And you know, we have a few comments about not really being hard enough. So together here, internally sweet spot, we decided to make the toughest. And just see what happens. You know, see if there's a new ride a poll out of continual climbing everyday, then not excuse me. Not the Perez. We know that, but the roads over here at tough, you've got to look at the Belgian team record, the, the well chumps, cool on that's two hundred and seventy kilometers tuna ninety K the show, but they record that course, and they said, it's gonna be the strongest twenty riders at the end of the day that can stay a route as lumpy and is up and Dan, as exposed as I climbed over here. And the sign applies to the race this show. We all we can do, as you said, the final stage last year into co win bay, where we thought was and hard enough as it was. But then one team control. What I mean in the five years of, of the race while been your observations of how women's cycling for the writers themselves individually, but also the teams have developed. As being a big chain. I think the has there's been a big change at the top in the top five top eight women's well, two teams have got stronger and they're able to control the race of five six days. In the army stages of this race. We put. JV national squad Dame. We'd put the drops team. We put the story racing team in with probably lessen known GB riders who we found one formally able to compete with the top. So we had this security issue, not just with some of the British why does, but also some of the European ride is that went able to stay with the front group all the time in split up and at the back when the when the pace does come out of the back group on the road. You got a security problem because she may have the rice spread over thirty minutes. And this is a rolling road closure that we operate here, not a total closure but this this disparity from the top end to the back end. And I don't think and I might be combusted with critical remarks after this. I don't think that the, the depth in talent is as spread across the. The well two teams is across the men for of this reasons and are still thing that the, the UCI trying to do things far too quickly for the women's sport that trying to. Demand far too many things from organizers at this stage, and I'd say, the developments of women's sport needs another at this level at well to level needs another four to five years before it will be up there. Yeah. I'm hearing this from teams on organizers, these are demanding a law, and an offering not very much in return with the affair. The what the UCI can offer in return. But. They certainly become increase the massive women by riders that exist. And so they're putting restrictions on the organizers, you know, you can have live television, you've got to pay contracts. You've got to increase prizemoney. You got better commendation, I think other than the light TV, which is a whole different debate for us. We are providing we've probably setting a bit of a stunned that if you like globally, in terms of our prize money's is just under one hundred thousand euros. We have four or five star hotels. We really the car to the teams it's the save infrastructure. Why shouldn't he be that we provide for the men, an unknown all organizers are able to do that? And whether it's the UCI's problem will, whether it's the, the national federation of that country that encourages women to take this one. Four sports as like Basie do. Therefore, they would reap the benefits because this spreading the message that women's sport is alive and well and. Looking forward are think the federations of the national federations of countries need to do a lot more to encourage women to ride bikes that was make Bannet really almost describing a race of two halves with the, the last three stages. Pretty challenging I hill top finish as well. We've got this year on a gas, the big question after last year where corn Rivera one stage two and then managed to defend the the lead for the rest of the week. Thanks very strong sun web team. And there was a law of expectation -ticipant around the final stage in Wales last year, which didn't it didn't it wasn't as, as didn't split the race up as much as people probably because it was a tailwind up the main climb probably the main claim is a long way from the finish and it was very controlled by some. And in the end, it was a sprinter, pure sprint lots of the peace though, won this stage, which which tells you ever. By what happened on that? And there was a bit disappointment about that. Do we think that the course this year will be am provide a bit more of of, you know, a challenging racing for the, the writers, who really want likely Salongo bargains, really wants attack, and try and break it up? I personally think it, well, I think is enough differentiation between the different stages to provide a very different kind of race. And it always depends on high. A race is raised in heart pans, out, because as you say with VERA, taking stage to last year, it almost than felted certainly not professional, but it felt like a fairly seferian at least until that final stage. And that's because I think that climate being billed as as being so difficult, a lot of the writers were surprised that it wasn't as tough as expected it to be. And I'm hoping that, that will teach dividers in the teams lessons for this year because we've got the second stayed. It's been called the Hillier and most difficult stage of the women's. Here. Hopefully everything won't be left until bad under won't be that much interpretation. But I'm really looking forward to stage two. For example, the lapse of excuse me off. Can't psychopathic? I think that could be really exciting to get lots of fans there. Just a good old day of partying should be good. I'm quite looking forward to the poor stage stage three from Hanley. Really? Isn't it vote? She's or something for that day. And giving the Royal wave from the school, definitely. Yeah. I think it's definitely proved that we're not Porsche if we think like just the woods Henley and blend palace is really don't think we needed. Very push. But I think we could we could try and apply. Some pasta choose to that stage, maybe. Yeah. Posher selves up for that cream. Linda cream linen suits. Right. I'm sitting in my bad at the moment. Galt all my clothes laid out to pack if you can pick anything from that dirty pilot, you think might work for post push stage. Good law. Maybe it's just best to burn fat and where the ashes. I'm not sure that yeah. Ashes make that grid coverage of. In terms of Thang give it a go. As you know what I'm going to say, actually, I'm going to rebel against the push stage. I'm gonna wear vica bits. I'm gonna not brush my hair. I'm going to like a writer on renegades on stage three favorite go given. Given. And they just put your excuses in now. Because they're. Are he climbs categorized climbs started that? Which could really break it up. Yeah. The hilly stages in Wales stage. Five should be really exciting. We're looking at other sprint finish. I think on the final stage but I do think that there's enough. They're gonna Nuff variety of writers to be able to make it exciting and enough strong teams this year, not just where we'd strong team last year as well. But at you mentioned track, for example, and the team that they're bringing Orion, Lisa longer. Any it has the potential to be fantastic stage. And sometimes, like I say, it's on the shoulders of the writers said, hi ridden as to whether or not to livers. But I can't see much to complain about in the route because it's not the Alps it's not the Dolomites it's not going to try the likes of Asimova Paseo and unav- under Bragan these days. But it is a good all round course. I think this year after correct you there or is she gonna try? Because she well she's on the start. She the I've got she's going because she did miss it last year. And she did tell us, it was because she didn't think it was challenging enough. So she's going this year with her new team, led by Mina Voss, and the top two are missing again, on Vanderberg and enemies van bulletin, presumably, focusing on on the Jiro. And you wonder if that's also because of where the women's two falls on the calendar that, you know, if you're if you're focused on the Chiro, is it better to go off at an altitude training camp, this time, for example, because it must be difficult is so much going for in terms of organization at prize money as Mick Bennett told me and they're really trying to raise the standard and give the women exactly the same, you know hotels food at prize money at Sentra as the men and, you know, there is difficult for writers who are one thing to really peak for a certain race to. To everything in some difficult choices to be made. But, but it is a bit disappointing that they're not there. But one writer who who is coming back his corner. Vera, the defending champion and I started by by those writers who were missing when a spoke to her earlier today and by her reflections on last year's race and she's expecting from this year's race. So curran. You're heading back to the UK to defend your your title. I guess you look back on last year's race was very fond memories. Yeah. Of course it was a pretty special event. Last year. I was reading well teams writing well so great memories from last year. And yeah, we hope to perch this year in similar fashion. Yeah. Going for stages, and g c but yeah, the whole team is strong. So it's a little bit more open. And it's not like super super clear that I'll going for you. See, I think we have some stronger roles on the team this year. And also the racist, a lot ardor bit Hillier this year as well. So, yeah, we'll go in open minded, but it's not all pressure on me. The chorus this year, obviously said day longer have you been able to study at the courses in particularly those lost three days quite tough. Yeah. Starting to take a look at it this week. And it does definitely look quite tough all the days are pretty long, except for that circuit on stage to. And then on top of that. Yeah. Quite a few the stages stages later in the week have a lot of climbing so, yeah, I like a harder race. So I think in the end it suits me the teams better. But yeah, it will anyways still be difficult. So. I, I was viewed in the in the women's pallet on the women's tour because it's obviously got great prize money. I think you stink quite nice with towels in some respects. It seems to be really raising the standard, but it's still not attracting all of the talk women and a wondered if you had any views on that weather, and that's an issue with the course or with the timing because it's obviously, if people are preparing for the Rosa as well as maybe slightly awkward timing. I don't know who's the civically you're talking about. But I think there's still a lot of good riders you're going to this race. And yeah, I guess it is quite close to the euro. But then, again, like, for example, last year send a race during in and the women's store and still had a good euro. So I think it is possible to do it. If you, if you wanna do it, I, I don't I can't say for sure, why others aren't doing it. But I can tell you one thing that's for sure, is that I'll be there. So. Is your four I saw you to funders where you get a crash, and obviously they in didn't finish the race. But and you seem to have well, your second and final stage and touring and recently how how's your form at the moment? Yeah. I mean every year is different and you can't expect the same thing every year. So, yeah, I, I had another rough spring or compared to my first year in Europe. But yeah. Life goes on. And I went home in had a good training trade and also had a pretty decent, Tori, California, and then. Yeah. During in got got an good block in had a couple of showings on the podium, so feeling good coming a little more consistent. And nice to get a good days on the bike sleeping. Is supported by science, sport science, bolt fueled why sites? Thank you very much indeed, to science sport for support thing, cycling podcast Femina, and you can still get twenty five percent off all your sciences sports sports, nutrition products. Scientists dot com with the code s I s c p twenty five South Korean Rivera, who you made the point that listened to brand Sunway of teammate road, the women's tour last year was was part of her, her team defended that jersey and went on and root, very strong, cheetah Rosa sushi doesn't think that it's impossible to do both. But as a said, clearly, there are writers, who are making a decision to go to one and not the other. And it is a pity that the strongest to female writers in the world, Vander Bragin von Luton are both missing. I mean, I think it kind of just opens out the bit Moana. We've seen so much of why finding citing by this time of year is that you start seeing a new set of Rytas come to the fore, and some new rivalries, and new champions, because we've, we've. Vanfleet and founded Bragan all spring long and oversee. You can't keep right is can't keep their peak for that long anyway. I think now it's exciting to see some new riders some great writers them really, really attacking riders. And hopefully, we'll see some new champion just for the, the prestige of the race the standing of the race the it's no great. Those two writers in particular, of chosen to miss it the last couple years, I don't think it needs set relay it's fantastic whenever we get unavoidable. Anonymous version start on any rare start line but the women's to has a prestige all of it. So ni-. It doesn't not to say that loads more top writers decided not to come that it wouldn't suffer. But it has of my animals at has as diagnosed highs Corrina, VERA, five defending champions have got loads of stage. Winter's coming back again, and it has the prestige at house, not just. Because of the writers. But because of all these things that you mentioned rich or the fact that they do mix Jennifer with who tells with treatment of the women with television coverage with all kinds of coverage, very supportive of doing the poll, constant the embrace, whatever way, they can facilitate media to come which isn't always the case at different races. The prize money at cetera. I don't I don't necessarily think in this addition that I'm missing those two writers, particularly because you don't want to see any Hristo mated too much. Their talents are much better suited to make the Jair Rosa an incredibly exciting risks, and, you know, man cycling, choose between which kind of races sit them. I don't think it's necessarily about thing. Is the claimer who, who have optimism econ change the geography of, of the country and, you know, Cecilia Ludvig missing Katyal as well? And you know writers, who are very strong climbers, actually moving passers kind of exception and coming and writing this year. But some e e kind of changing geography. But there are, you know, you, you could I think I mean I I, I was trying to tease us. I make ban the while the racist been running for five years in that time that the standard is gone up a law on five years ago. I don't think it's on my that teams would have been able to control the race in the way that sun web did last year with five really strong writers. You might have had a team with a really strongly Dern, perhaps, you know, a mix villages to support her. But now you've got team several teams there who, if they have a writer in the lead could do really good job of. Of controlling the race quite effectively on, on these sorts of courses. And you know, I don't know 'em. Whether there are different ways of making challenging, I'm there are different parts of the country to go to where there are really serious climbs. Maybe not long but, but tough tough roads and tough climb. So, I think it'll be interesting this year because I do think that, you know, the Cecilia triplet, for example, has gone to the and revived stage race in Britain, which interesting, one this happening at the moment, and she's oversee made that decision to go there, it's a racist. Probably sue her batter, and I wonder if she, she again was quite aggressive last year. And but didn't get great reward for that aggression, and that's the problem and if it's a different racist, year where and the weather's could play a part too, if it's bad weather. You know, we'll be split up more on tougher. And you know that might determine who comes next year. It's also remember that it's also a stage longer this year. I remember talking about. Varney Las and he was saying about the toll that the kind of the grip he roads that you get in the UK takes on the writers, and the intensity of the racing does take its toll on does mean that the right is get more fatigued over Safeway, adding an extra stage, the end of it then that will be even more so. But I also think that I mean I think completely to blame for this as well though. Sometimes we focus too much on getting the big of the big of the mountain the better, the race in, which is it's not it's not true. Really the time and also think that when we look back so to saying about current Rivera winning, it basically winning last year's race on stage to, but that was actually an incredibly unpredictable thing. And at the time that was very exciting because you think well this person is going to this ride is going into the lead early on, on a race on a state that you wouldn't expect it, and it was the same win cash. Navia Doma one it previously as well. She made a solo break very early on in the race. And when you look back. Anything this, you know, the leaders of the jersey for however many days, that's not so interesting. But they actually were completely overturning the expectations of that race. So it's hard to even looking on paper, we might say, oh, you know, could do with a few big climbs. But I think it will be unpredictable regardless because that is the nature of this race. Right. Claim, basically trying to come to Scotland now. Putt, pink some bagpipe losing saying, they're all parts of the country mounted. Women's tour. Scotland coming here ROY. Oh, that's good. Very much. You've got to give credit whiz. Gee, because last year we all cold for summit finish, we've got a summit, finish the poor stage has a category to climb nine point five kilometers in category. One climb twenty one kilometer said, so we've got some climbs the start of stages that could really make much more exciting. They're not all looted towards the end of the stages. Think that happened quite a bit last year for memory whereas there is different this year on, I think a lot of I wouldn't say criticism maybe constructive criticism that was leveled at the at the last year house be listened to. So I think we have to then gave out a chance to play out in the road. And see what kind of reacing it develops and what kind of racing it reveals rather before we decide to take it to Scotland, then. Right. So every every previous winner of the women's through is writing this year. Can you name the MO? Look at your boss. Deichmann Corrina VERA navy. Doma uh. Oh. How many was the least brand are Cassini Bouma thing, that's thing. Yeah. Well done. Yeah, it was. Win your. Well, some more some more intriguing English homework and the teacher me me me. And you put your hands up. I used to love the some more interesting in the in, in the lineup. Some, Lisa Brenner, you mentioned. She's in good form, leading W N t into the women's tour em Marta Ellie who's been on fire this year. Not. No. I don't know if she's a little break. I think she has had a little break, but I'm Bev mystery around her her form. She was in touring, and then she finished there, didn't she won. She said, win stage too. But I wonder if she'll carry forward that form that she had in the spring into the women's to certainly couple of the early stages should should suit her. And, you know, the likes of clay Hosking is well, for that Villa Park stage that you mentioned cash. Heavy domas by strong kinda shrum racing team. And with the likes Ryan as well and it you Keeney is inform. So there's lots of names, lots of teams who will serve up some exciting racing. You hope and think, and yet, we're very much looking forward to. We I wanted to wanted to through an appeal to our listeners if they want to help shape, any of the themed news roundups over the six days of racing because last year what did we have we had Shakespeare, we're going through Shakespeare country, this year, aren't we, we had a Shakespeare day. We had Radiohead soul. Radiohead day, we had different themes, and then Jones liberals. Yes, yes, yes. For the welts yet, we couldn't come up. You could forget. Yes, if anybody has any specific knowledge about the culture of any of the places that were going through and would like to suggest a theme, I will do my best to sledge hammer any references into the news round up on, then you can play a game of spelt, the reference by the end of the day, should be funny. Games for the car, sorta already. One step beyond ice by don't we, let's we'll to Mark a renewed partnership with scooter. We're gonna hear from Sarah story Dame, Sarah storey who works closely with school, and she's been very involved in helping them create the school dot cycling, academy. This is a program designed specifically to support Spiring female writers with the option to ride and train like the pros under world class mentorship and Novi Sarah is very involved. I the thirty Yorkshire a few weeks ago, I spoke to her about the academy is launching next week on stage during stage. One of the women's tour, actually Lionel Bernie will be there doing following the progress and dig a few interviews. So we'll hear more from from that as the year goes on. But I spoke to Sarah story about the academy and the idea behind it gonna have a test in down, gene. The ten down Lee valley valley Parkway, we're gonna have to fifty days L have to write down. Pending on how many applications we get more cheese five based on a range of different criteria women who want yet professionals who have the Embiid to be seventeen to twenty five. I it was the final age. We, we decided upon just trying to provide different opportunities for the women in that age category, who haven't yet Tim professional to experience things that will hopefully benefit than when they do in the future. What's the thinking behind the and what's the mission with the, those go to wanted to continue to build on this is our time come pain, but obviously when in a pro cycling team is very, very costly. So they wanted to look the opportunities to provide something different that wasn't the really obvious thing. And there's nothing merely around that outside of GPA academy program that would mimic that, so while it's not necessarily going to have the same structure with a track pogo, and this is purely focused on the road. It will give the goes different opportunities. Very strongly linked to the J minus one goes that disalvo on. Twitter and the. Internationale goes as well. Formed up the back of the j minus one. Right. So the we'll go out to the Twitter fronts and a stage that the head of the men will do. Some other longer rides probably the tap NATO, and we'll have some training and mentoring opportunities as well. So it will help the writers are involved, obviously, but it's an ambition as well to maybe on earth, some talent. That's that's not been that's been been hidden away. Yes, a possibility. We sit us. The academy is an opportunity to scout a ride a potentially to come into our team next year and provide them with upper -tunities like we've had today and just adding those stepping stones. And I think one of the biggest challenges within the women's development is that the some of the leaps are really, really big. So you find that the youth Rytas, for example, at the tour Scotland is we back said, who's all right? A she vote, a hundred kilometers over the stages was the boys wrote one hundred and seventy seven so that gaps quite big already. And then you get to genius in the race it up to maybe seventy five kilometers, ninety kilometers and some of the stages of some of the events, I think they'll have ninety haven in Yorkshire and then you. Move to the national series, and then you sort of go in the one hundred one hundred ten ks and then you can end up with the women's tour, this shave is going to have some stages of close to one hundred sixty K. So those big Jim, so we want to try and fill the gaps. And provide some gentle transitions between those said that people can be positive and confident when they move up to the next level. I mean, there's also the case, the are quail overseas, though, for maybe youth in junior writers. And then when the biggest jump is perhaps, from junior to senior for female writer with that under twenty three category. So not as group are there law, people falling through the crimes. Well, I think we lose a loss of young women in all spoil about the age of sixteen and that's the age that go into the category for cycling and then obviously, we don't have an under twenty three category. So we've already got the smaller group that have gone into genius, and then it gets even smaller as you say, because there isn't under twenty three category. So we wanted to make sure it wasn't just under twenty three's within the kademi, because you can. I find that people develop a bit later, and that set me how in the women's peleton a lot more. An I'm one of those arrived on news, twenty seven and so I think it's important that we have that age range. And then we also provide those Lunga right opportunities. They're not racist, because that's not fried. What they're great opportunity, and we'll assess how it's worked and build on it is his new thing. So hopefully, it'll be something that we can continue and grow. So that was a story, as we'll hear more about the Scott kademi as the year goes on. We'll also be featuring some of the women involved in the internationales, the women who are writing the root of the tour de France won their head of the man this year. We follow that a little bit last year. But it is, I think a bigger group this year is more organized than ever before. And quiet contingent of British women going off to right. So I'm meeting a couple of them tomorrow. We'll hear from them in a future episode of the site can podcast feminine. Also supported by Skoda, so listen, ladies bag on packed. You Barry going gal clothing. They're into. I know you've got Henry for the stores, take them out before I get back to bekker's. What are you talking about? Talking. Please. Can you see a few suitable for family audience? Yes. Well are curry night on Sunday night. Can we try to just? Just like Richard is completely baffled. Been on a hand weekend. Well, I'll bring you the hand while bring the Hindu to the women's toil just be a continuous Hindu. Sashes. Yeah. We'll get T-shits mid up but yeah, we'll nicknames rich. I'll be great. Yeah. We need some. We sure if I can do the willing to anymore. I mean just come up. Emblazoned with the wom- hands tear. This is so different to working with Lionel. Are we are we are we going to are we going to try and repeat are grown breaking and water feature of last year? We got some new ideas for this. Well, the big issue is it'll be a lot easier for me this year because last year, I was trying to hide the fact that I was pregnant and to my bladder was always in the point of excluding, basically until we were doing the water feature NAS. I was doing the interviews. I couldn't then get that thought out of my heads. It was obstinate torture today. So another feature she'll be slightly easier, but we should let something fun again. Let's. Gestion. Showy. Crowed sort, let's just crowdsource. I really Hex. So listen. We well, let's go, and Gary, selves, ready. Mentally prepared for six days on the road again. And the. Yeah I'm looking forward to we'll be. We'll be with you for Monday night all the way through to Saturday. And so, yeah, join us here. Thanks rose here. No here, whatever you're listening. Yes. In the usual channels. Philosophical, we going up since going up the post awards standing right now but just talking about it. Hopeless is in entry for. Right, rose. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. And see you off to the weekend, very soon. Thank you. Orla say it done. Stead folks. Outwit. You're listening to the cycling podcast Femina an association with Reifer the fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride and watch with Rafeh in twenty nineteen state partner, ES education, I and canyon shrimp.
Mac OS Ken: 05.14.2019
"Yeah. This is MAC OS, Ken. Skoda's deals. Apple a blow updates aplenty from Cupertino and positive takes on apple stores. It's Tuesday the fourteenth of may twenty nineteen. I'm Ken Ray. And this is news from Moco. West Ken brought to you by yours. Truly and sponsored by mal wear bites targeting the threats targeting your MAC. Visit malware bytes dot com slash MAC for your free. Download and fourteen day trial. The show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriarch find out more in that your support that patriot dot com slash MAC OS cap. Various corners of the apple globe seem to explode on Monday, though, not all in a bad way. Just mostly which corner show we visit. I, hey, how about the one where the US supreme court through the basis of Apple's future into disarray quoting a piece from CNBC supreme court ruled five to four against apple on Monday and a case involving the app store. The only way for most iphone and ipad users to download software iphone users had argued that Apple's thirty percent commission on apps sales at inflated prices for iphone software, and that bullet argued that consumers didn't have the standing to sue because apple was merely providing a marketplace for the apps an argument only the app developers had standing sue for anti-trust. As has been stated the Supremes disagreed saying. I phone owners were direct purchasers who may sue apple. For alleged monopolization. That's according to a piece from seeing that which had just as Bret Cavanaugh writing in the court's majority opinion, the iphone owners here are not consumers at the bottom of vertical distribution chain. Who were attempting to sue manufacturers at the top of the chain. Seeing that says the case will now go back to a lower court though, Apple's not waiting to express its displeasure. In a statement to CNBC victim by nine to five MAC, apple said, we're proud to have created the safest most secure and trusted platform for customers and a great business opportunity for all developers around the world developer set the price. They want to charge for their apple apple has no role in that. The vast majority of apps on the app store are free and Upul gets nothing from them. The only instance were apple shares in revenue as if the developer chooses to sell digital services through the app store, developers have a number of. Platforms to choose from to deliver their software from other apps stores too smart TB's to gaming consoles, and we work hard every day to make sure our store is the best safest and most competitive in the world. The company also said it expects to win when the cases reheard in the lower court. Of course, it probably didn't expect what happened Monday to happen. So take that for what it's worth as what this could mean for Apple's future. Apple has been banking hard on services for the company's future. Malabo's been building a number of services such as apple music. I cloud in the upcoming apple TV, plus seeing that had creative strategies analyst Ben baharan pointing out that the app store has really been the heart of their services revenue. Needless to say anything that messes with that messes with Apple's future. Not that. It's completely messed up far from it. According to Kevin arc would chair of the antitrust practice. At chasm wits Benson Torres the way he sees it apple could still win the case, he points out that go. This didn't say apple has lost. Its simply said that consumers have the right to bring the case. So tempting to ferret through every bit of this. Then again will likely be hearing about it for years to come. A quick look at exploding corner. Number two. Apple shares were down nearly six percent on Monday losing eleven dollars and forty six and ending the day at one hundred eighty five dollars and seventy two cents while that may have been thanks in part to the Skoda's decision. It seems more likely that it had to do with the US trade war with China which ratcheted up again on Monday as well as the boogeyman that is uncertainty. The Dow was down over six hundred points. The NASDAQ was down nearly two hundred seventy the stocks. I follow showed up in my tracker as they see of red. So that's on them. Why not talk about a fun? Apple explosion on Monday released updates to all of the operating systems. Well, all of its operating systems. Apple insider, says it's cooler Tino namesake released. I O S twelve dot three bringing an updated TV experienced iphone ipad, and I touch according to the piece the updated apple TV experience includes apple TV channels that also makes way for apple TV. Plus the streaming service apple announced earlier this year expected to arrive later this year, if you don't remember what will TV channels are. Apple insider explains that they let customers subscribed various video providers, effectively working as an all cart pay TV service. And addition the pieces IOS twelve dot three brings changes to the wallet app. Those include some features altered in preparation for the launch of. Apple card. That's the credit card apple announced earlier this year. That's also coming later this year should be hitting pretty soon though. In fact, word on the street is that some apple employees are already receiving. There's there are security fixes in the updates by the way, twenty three by Mike count. I O S twelve dot three is free. It's available now in all of the usual ways. Now, it wasn't just apple hardware the garden. Apple update on Monday. Mac daily news says Samsung also caught a little TV magic semi announced Monday that starting Monday all twenty nineteen Samsung smart TV's and select twenty eighteen TV models with a firmware update will feature the all new apple TV app in more than one hundred countries and offer airplay to support in one hundred seventy six countries the. The company points out that gives Samsun customers access to apple TV channels as well as I tuned movies and TV shows on Samsung, smart TV's. Is this an if he can't beat them? Join them thing. Mel Samsung would rather use it as them being on the forefront of something wan Jen Lee, executive VP visual display, business and Samsung Electronics as quoted in the piece of saying for the last decade Samsung has been at the forefront of offering the broadest selection of content available to consumers on our smart TV platform as the first TV manufacturer to integrate the apple TV app on a smart TV platform. Some sun continues to offer our customers incredible value and access to the apple TV app. Experience on the largest screens available today. From extremely portable devices to devices built for your desk or lap a separate piece from apple insider says apple has released MAC OS ten fourteen dot five apples released note, say the update adds airplay to support for sharing videos, photos music and more from your MAC directly to your airplay to enable smart TB. That's the ability to follow a magazine from the apple news, plus catalog, browsing view and improves audio latency on macbook pro models introduced in twenty eighteen also at fixes an issue that prevented certain very large Omni outline, an Omni plan documents from rendering properly, and we all know helping that can be. The mockup date. Also brings a number of security fixes that number being twenty six. I've added correctly. Mike O S ten dot fourteen dot five is a free update. It is available now through the map store will end our trip down update lane on the wrist one more piece from apple insider, apple releasing watch OS, five dot two dot one Apple's release notes. The update includes new features improvements and bug fixes. That said the new features seemed to be aimed primarily at the series four watch. According to the notes they include e c g on apple watch series four now. Available in Croatia. Czech Republic Iceland, Poland and Slovakia irregular heart rhythm notifications now available in Croatia. Czech Republic, Iceland, Poland and Slovakia. And the update fixes an issue where the numbers on the explorer face would not appear for. Some users are their security fixes, heck. Yeah. There are eighteen security fixes unless I lost count somewhere along the way. Watch OS five two dot one is a free update. It's available through the watch op on an associated iphone. In a moment some positive takes on apple retail. But I word from our bites targeting the threats targeting your MAC, no one wants to worry about malware for their MAC one way. To relieve such worry is with malware bytes, malware, bytes detects and removes viruses, add wear and other malware automatically. So you're protected without even having to think about it. Malware, bytes scans the average MAC and under thirty seconds. But you don't have to be there. When it does set malware bytes to run in the middle of the night or the middle of the day, whenever you're not using your MAC or let it do its thing in the background while you do your thing. Doing your thing. Visit malware bytes dot com slash moc for your free. Download and fourteen day trial of their premium offering stay protected with malware bytes. Visit malware bytes dot com slash Mike for your free. Download and fourteen day trial of their premium offering and the big things to malware bytes for sponsoring this week show. Monday. We heard from people for whom apple stores have lost their shine. Today. We hear from a few who feel differently. Brian wrote to say I've been using MacIntosh computers since I started with MacIntosh plus in nineteen Eighty-six long before the apple store was even a concept. I'm writing this Email on an iphone tennis max picked up an apple store and the transaction that took less than fifteen minutes, I visited up all stores both as a business customer, and as a regular consumer and always leave the store with a result that I expected or one that is better than I had anticipated. I've never had a bad experience as a business customer. The story experiences equally as positive I feel that apple provides me everything I need to achieve my business goals and some incentives to help execute a business plan. I think the stores are an important part of defining their brand, which is inexorably linked to. The customers experience I'm looking forward to spending more time an apple stores as my schedule permits. There is no other retailer at which I would spend discretionary time. Daniel says I have had one or two bad experiences. Napa retail stores in recent years. However, my overall opinion of them is still very good several months back. I bought a fifty dollar tunes gift card from an apple retail stores gift from my cousin a few months later. My cousin told me that he had lost the card before making any use of it. So Daniel tried phone service. And when that didn't help he says he tried his nearest apple store in Vancouver. British Columbia, thanks to a few suggestions from a helpful and persistent sounding store employee with an a day or two he received a new code for a fifty dollar tunes gift card, even though they only had his word that the original guard was lost. Despite being a minor matter. This is exactly. The kind of thing that can make a big difference in our perception of a company, so says Daniel. An anonymous individual road to say, I work at Napoli store in southern California. One of the busiest stores in the company I've worked for apple for eight years. I believe that customer service has gone down. But it's because the stores are so much busier, and my store genius bar appointments are often not available or are hours out. It has gotten better. But we still turn a lot of people away because we don't have an available slot. I totally disagree that the quality of people working in the stores has gone down. Again, the stores are busy. So the level of individual attention is affected. But I also think that the greater mix part time employees to full time has affected customer satisfaction. If Deirdre O'Brien wants to dramatically change customer satisfaction scores and employee retention. She should have more fulltime employees. I believe people stay in jobs where they make enough money to live on. Can no relation wrote to say here in Houston. We have three apple stores that are within about five miles of each other and close to me there never seems to be a problem. Finding a person to help. Yes, they're busy. But considering how many people show up to look at shop for and just get to know, apple stuff. I don't feel that there is a problem. You may have to raise your hand or wave at a passing apple employee. But it doesn't like anyone is being Nord. They have made buying stuff easy with their up. Find it pick it up scan it and walk away the Email receipt. Is there within seconds cans biggest complaint, the free classes, they do it at the end of the store back of the store or the middle of the store and with many people who are shopping and working at the store. It's hard to hear what is happening. Sometimes great classes for locations. Eric wrote to say, I love my two stores here in Salt Lake particularly city creek. I've never once walked in and not been greeted warmly up and just go into hang out with the new ipad home pot or drool over twenty seven inch. I'm back not having cash registers or rather having every sales employees walking cash. Register as awesome my service experiences seamless ideal with the same person for my entire shopping or service experience. And finally Kirk has no issue with the apple store, rather. He's bothered by the guy who wrote the Bloomberg piece that's off this virtual set of questions and answers when I saw the byline of Mark Gherman on the piece I understood before I even read the article with the tone of the article would be the way Kirk sees at Gherman been sort of negative on Apple's and seemingly losing the inside track. That made him the king about both scoops. Back in his days at nine to five map says Kirk the article is a good example of his general negative tone, in my opinion. If you can no longer get the juicy accurate headlines for clicks, the very next place to go to write something negative about apple and the world apple reporting. This is nothing new for my money. He goes on to say, it's still one of the best retail shopping experiences out there. Thanks to everybody who rode in. I know there were a couple I didn't get to include. But I really do. Appreciate it. You rock. Mac OS can brought to you by me and sponsored by Mel wear bites targeting the threats targeting your MAC. Visit malware bytes dot com slash MAC for your free. Download and fourteen day trial. This show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriot. Find out more in that your support. At patriot dot com slash MAC OS Cam advertising handled by backbeat nedia online that backbeat media dot com. You can reach me a couple of ways in fo at Moco, west come dot com or call seven one six seven eight zero four zero eight zero. We will talk again tomorrow until van that is news from MAC OS, Ken. I'm Ken Ray. Chow?
01 - The Golden Bird
"The golden bird from Grimm's fairytales by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm translated by Edgar Taylor and Marianne Edwards. This is a liberal vox, recording all liberal, vox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer. Please visit liberal vox dot org. Read by Bob newfound. A certain king had a beautiful garden. Matt in the garden stood at tree, which bore golden apples. These apples were always counted about the time when they began to grow ripe. It was found that every night. One of them was gone. The king became very angry this an order the gardener to keep watch all night under the tree the Gardner said his eldest son to watch but about twelve o'clock fell asleep and in the morning. Another of the apple was missing than the second. Son was ordered to watch an at midnight. He to Fateh sleep. And in the morning another apple was gone, then the third son offered to Cape watch. But the Gardner at. I would not let him for fair. Some harm should come to him. However at last he consented and the unmanned laid himself under the tree to watch as the clock struck twelve. He heard a rushing noise in the air and a bird came flying that was of pure. Gold and has it was snapping at one of the apples with its beak. The Gardner son jumped up and shot an arrow at it. But the arrow did the bird no harm only at dropped a golden feather from his tail and then flew away, the golden feather was brought to the king in the moaning all the council was called together. Everyone agreed that it was worth more than all the wealth of the kingdom. But the king said one rather is of no use to me. I must have the whole burn. Than the gardeners. Eldest son sat out and thought to find the golden bird very easily. And when he had gone, but a little way he came to a wood. And by the side of the would he saw a FOX setting. So he took his bow and made ready to shoot at it. Then the FOX said do not shoot me for I will give you good counsel. I know what your business is. And that you want to find the golden bird. He will reach a village in the evening. And when you get there, you will see two inns opposite to each other one of which is very pleasant and beautiful to look at go not in there. But rest for the night and the other though, it may appear to you to be very poor. And mean, but the sun thought to himself what can such basis this know about the matter. So he shot his era at the FOX, but he missed and it sat up its tail above its back and ran into the wood. Than he went his way and in the evening came to the village where the two inns were and at one of these where people singing, dancing and feasting, but the other looked very dirty in pool. I should be very silly said he if I went to that shabby house and left this charming place. So he went into the smart house, and ate and drank at his ease and forgot the bird by this country too. Time passed on man as the eldest son did not come back, and no tidings were heard of him the second son set out and the same thing happened to him. He met the FOX who gave him the good advice. But when he came to the two inns. His eldest brother was standing at the window where the merrymaking was an call to him to come in. And he could not withstand the temptation, but went in and forgot the golden bird and his country in the same manner. Time passed on again and the youngest son to wished to set out into the wide world to seek for the golden bird. But his father would not listen to it for a long while for he was very fund of his son and was afraid that some ill luck might happen to him. Also and prevent his coming back. However at last it was a great he should go for he would not rest at home. And as he came to the would he met the FOX and heard the same good counsel. But he was thankful to the FOX and did not attempt his life as his brothers had done set upon my tail and you will travel faster. So he sat down and the FOX began to run and away. They went over stock and stone so quick let their hair whistled and the wind when they came to the village the sun followed the FOX's council and without looking. About him went to the shabby in and rested. There all night at his ease in the morning came the FOX again and met him as he was beginning his journey and said go straight forward till you come to a castle before which lie hold troop of soldiers fast asleep and snoring take no notice of them. But go into the castle and passed on and on till you come to a room where the golden bird sits in a wooden cage close by head stands a beautiful, golden cage. But do not try to take the bird out of the shabby cage and put it into the handsome one. Otherwise, you will repent it. Then the FOX stretched out his tail again and the unmanned sat himself down and away. They went over stock and stone till their hair whistled in the wind. Before the castle gates all was as the FOX had said, so the sun went in and found the chamber where the golden bird hung in the wooden cage and below stood the golden cage and the three golden apples that had been lost where lying close by it. Then thought he to himself will be very droll thing to bring away such a fine bird in this shabby cage so opened the door and took hold of it and put it into the golden cage, but the bird set up such loud scream that all the soldiers awoke than they took him prisoner and carried him before the king the next morning the court sat to judge him. And when always heard it sentenced him to die unless he should bring the king the Golden Horse, which could run a swiftly as the wind. And if he did this he was to have the golden bird given him for his. Own. So he said out once more on his journey Cy. I didn't great despair. When on a sudden is friend the FOX met him and said you see now what has happened on account of your not listening to my council. My will still however tell you how to find the Golden Horse. If you will do as I bid, you you must go straight on till you come to the castle with a horse stands in his stall by his side. We're lie. The groom fast asleep and snoring. Take away the horse quietly by short put on the old leather saddle upon him. And not the golden one that is close by it. Then the sun sat down on the FOX's tail and away. They went over stock and stone tell their hair whistled in the wind. All went right and the groom lay snoring with his hand upon the golden saddle. But when the sun looked at the horse, they thought it a great pity to put the leather in San of upon it. I will give him the good one steady. I am sure. He deserves it as he took up the golden saddle the groom awoke and cried out so loud that all the gods ran in and took him prisoner and in the morning. He was again brought before the court to be judged and was sentenced to die. But it was agreed that if he could bring feather the beautiful Princess he should live and have the bird and the horse given him for his own. Then he went his way vary sorrowful, but the old FOX came and said, why did you not listen to me if you had you would have carried away both the bird? And the horse yet will I once more give you counsel, go straight on and in the evening. You will arrive at a castle at twelve o'clock at night. The Princess goes to the bathing house, go up to her and give her a kiss, and she will let you lead away. But take care you do not suffer her to go and take leave of her father and mother than the FOX stretched out his tail and so where they went over stock and stone tell their hair whistled again. As they came to the castle. All was as the FOX had said and at twelve o'clock, the young man met the Princess going to the bath and gave her a kiss and she agreed to run away with him. But bagged with many years that he would let her take leave of her father at first refused. But she wept. Still more and more and fell at his feet till at last he consented. But the moment she came to her father's house. The guards awoke when he was taken prisoner again. Then he was brought before the king. And the king's said you shall never have my daughter unlash at eight days, you dig aware that hill that stops the view from my window. Now, this hill was so big that the whole world could not take it away. And when he had worked for seven days and done very little FOX came men said lie down and go to sleep. I will work for you. And in the morning, he awoke and the hill was gone. So he went merrily to the king and told him that now that it was removed. He must give him the Princess, then the king was obliged to keep his word and away went the young, man. And the Princess the FOX came and said to him we will have all three the Princess, the horse and the bird. Said the young man that would be a great thing. But how can you contrive it? If you will only listen said, the FOX it can be done when you come to the king, and he asks for the beautiful Princess, you must say here. She is then he will be very joyful, and you will mount the Golden Horse that they are to give you and put out your hand to take leave of them, but shake hands with the Princess last than lift her quickly onto the horse behind you clap your Spurs to his side and gallop away as fast as you can all went, right? Then the FOX said when you come to the castle where the bird is. I will stay with the Princess at the door, and you will ride in and speak to the king. And when he sees that it is the right horse. He will bring out the bird. But. You must sit still and say that you want to look at it to see whether it is the true goad and bird. And when you get it into your hand ride away. They to happen as the FOX said they carried off the bird, the Princess amounted again, and they rode on into a great would Ben the FOX came and said, pray cue me and cut off my head and my feet, but the young man refused to do it. So the FOX said I will at any rate. Give you good counsel beware of two things. Ransom. No one from the gallows and sit down by the side of no river. Then away he went well thought the young man, it has no hard matter to keep that advice. He wrote on with the Princess till at last he came to the village where he had left his two brothers and vary. A great noise an uproar, and when he asked what was the matter? The people said two men are going to be hind as she came nearer. He saw that the two men were his brothers who had turned rubbers. So he said cannot they in any way be saved. But the people said no unless he would bestow all his money upon the rascals and by their liberty. Then he did not stay to think about the matter. But paid what was asked and his brothers were given up and went on with him towards their home. And as they came to the would where the FOX I met them who was. So cool and pleasant that the two brothers said that are set down by the side of the river and rest awhile to eat and drink. So he said he s and forgot the FOX's council and sat down on the side of the river. And while he suspected nothing they came behind and threw him down the Bank on took the Princess, the horse and the bird and went home to the king their master. When said all this have we won by our labor, then there was great rejoicing made. But the horse would not eat the bird would not seeing and the Princess wept. The August sun the foul to the bottom of the rivers band. Luckily was nearly dry, but his bones were almost broken and the Bank was so steep that he could find no way to get out. Then the owed FOX came once more and Skoda them for not following his advice. Otherwise, no evil would have befallen him. Yet said he I cannot leave you here. So lay hold of my tail and hold fast that he pulled him out of the river and said to him Mazzy got upon the Bank, your brothers have set watched a Curio if they find in the kingdom. So he dressed himself as a poor man and came secretly to the king's caught man was scarcely within the doors when the horse began to eat and the bird to sing and the Princess left. Off weeping. And he went to the king and told him all his brothers roguery and they were seized and punished and he had the Princess given to him again. And after the king's death. He was heir to his kingdom. Along while after he went to walk one day and the wood and the old FOX met him and base ought him with tears in his eyes to kill him had cut off his head and feet and at last he did. So at the moment, the FOX was changed into a man and turned out to be the brother of the Princess who had been lost a great many many years. And of the golden bird.
69: Stage 4 | Warwick - Burton Dassett | Women's Tour 2019
"You're listening to the cycling podcast Femina an association with Rafeh the fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride and watch with Rafter in twenty nine nine estate partner, ES education. I and canyon shrimp. You're listening to the cycling podcasts feminine. Brought to you by Skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling, one race one scientist at a time. This is our time. Today. We are in Burton data. Oh my name's it should Moore. I'm with rose Manley. The Donyell free. Hello. Can you explain that place? What we're in Daniel free country, aren't we? Says you're not you're Orla Shinui, but well. Pick you up here or you free because I'm a bit. Fine connection their country Dino free will feature in in the episode. You you've you've had Bevan equipment functions today. Equipment mayor some ready to get interviews. And I was really excited because we'd managed to tell a wonderful story of the state's three our interviews from both before and after the race. And sometimes it just works out beautifully, where you've interviewed someone who becomes and crucial to the action of crucial to the rest by the end of the day, anything Bouma, Galt dot nails. And that's what I thought until we just put on a card, and to each of our readers. And not one of them could read any of the data to all my interviews from the day ARCO on Lima Bernie is very familiar with this scenario. So, you know if it's any consolation, even the great. The grids. A real boost. We are in the red lion pub and Warwickshire near Burton county park. We've been in hip pretty much today. Coke, I should say we have moved about three meters though. So we went up to the top. The day that promise, Lytham arrived at the top of the hill, and it was very rainy. And there is a tenth for the media. So we came down the hill and came to the pub. There was actually cracking stage wasn't it? There was a tent up top, and a lot of tension, I felt it was a bit of grumpiness. I sense among we're all fed up with think, because it was there were like two free standing portal up there. There was one three peaked tent for the media, and that was at me thought. So this game of soldiers came to the pub, Corrine from just the women's well to video said, never before what I think one of my concerns while on my job would be that I might step in a cow, Pat in the media room in the press room is what happened today. It was a Kerak in stage opposite loved it. We're able to follow it from here as we usually do on social media. But then because we're three laps the country park to finish. We're got to see what felt like an awful lot not just of the race, but of the action because every time it can pass things were different than we different writers out front, or the gaps it changed, or whatever found a really exciting race, not least because it was so fast. And you can really see the pain, on the writers faces as they were going pass, which I kind of love sadistically also was able to Recci the circuit. I rode the circuit still hold the hold onto the Sarah for Queen of the mind. The climb or beaten by. Later. Orla lots of literary ghosts in this area Gooding. Daniel freedoms that goes, but no 'em literally go see that Shakespeare when we were in this area, Las year think you're giving us a different literally figure or figures. When we went through all the titles, references are managed to get a lot of them in last year, we thought we go for something different, sue instead we've gone for a bit of a twist. We've gone for guests, the reference today, is it Philip Larkin, or is it Daniel free to literary giant of Coventry of Coventry whose Larkin as well various OC with whole? Where he lived but he was born in Coventry, I think live round here the morning. The morning, rose. We were saying, well, yeah, but then we started saying the quote. So, yeah, maybe I think it's just one of those if you study someone at school that it kind of remember, just the Arundel to having a doubt that is going to be the story in stage. So but explain some of your references will be Philip Larkin. Some will be very difficult to tell apart. We'll save it way we both have the same sensibility. But if you if you'd like to crack on with the story. Yesterday's when I should really that for later for Luther because we've competition winter two nights. But I think it's fair to say that we've been a little bit is appointed with the first half of the race in terms of a lack of attacks. At least we've been looking forward to today really? But then always eager for the future. We pick up bad habits of expectancy. Something has always approaching isn't it everyday till then we say, well, today is then the first summit finish in the women's tear history. We're sitting in a pub at the foot of the climb, as you said, Richard Burton, desolate climbs from the red lion public room from the kitchen. It's wisp of rude rising, slowly and serenely towards the summit, one kilometer away, the wrist at a circuit of Burton daas at country part, three laps to finish the longest stage of this year's race. And Sarah ROY made the first move with all one hundred twenty kilometers to go. She started the day, fifth, overall just six seconds dine, so, but it was a prize really that she got to go and build up such a lead in the end, and she was joined by fem key, Marcus of parkdale Valkenburg, and Charlotte. Becker of F, D J, and between them, they took both intermediate sprints. And built up a lead of eight minutes. Twenty seconds at one stage Amtrak, W N, t finally did starts lead the whereby seventy five kilometers to go by the time, we got to Burton Dowsett for the first time, it's quite difficult to see through the sheet Rian, but a brutal day like this on the road like death has different wind than with stewed so you can assign at vast that really matters through the gloom. A blink of light suspended between the twin strobes of a car's headlights Sarah, ROY leading fem key Marcus with Becker than dropped Lisa long before gaining Kassian via Duma. And leeann leopard of somewhere, not far behind, then ROY. And Marcus where then courts ROY at front all day long until lamb. Bob bang brave. Let's no one off the grave, by the time they came up the climb the second time it was navy. Doom Lippert and Longo Burr Gainey in front. They were then caught by the chasing grip on the next lap. Which included Lisa Brenner, who had been the rest lead at the start of the day. And Lizzy diagnose, so we had a charge of about twenty five for the line. So we were standing just by the finish line, by that stage pouring reenact everyone taking shelter where they could. And then the gloom too is Blair's to shoulders way to lips purse to thighs thump pond and Palmer. Casio Navia Duma to the way. Lizzy and third bicycle risk. Because the strange game though, isn't it sought to the vagaries that even the strongest sightless will lose far more often than he or she wins? Nubia Duma, one of the very strongest and this is her second of the year former winner of the whole race. Of course, you'll both remember when she won this reissue did with a long daring soul attack bar. I reckon originality is being different from one south not others. And she proven her originality proven. She can win in all sorts of ways. So she took the stage win the leader's jersey passes from Lisa Brennan, RT leeann leopard, Christine, Mazaris keeps the Queen of the mountains, jersey, Julian Dora Yu-lian Dora keeps the points. Jersey coroner VERA routines sprints. Lizzy Diagne still the best. British writer Sarah, ROY when's the competivity prize team? Son, web are not the best team. So we were afraid today that we'd have to wit for the finale for first bit of action, but polenta. Action right from the start proving that something like nothing happens anywhere. The fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character 'em watch with Rafeh in twenty nineteen as they partner e f education, fast and canyons ram, bib shorts are the most essential part of your cycling kit. Hi, my name is Alexis Ryan. And I raced for Kenyans ram. It's where you get the most friction. It's where you get possibly get the most discomfort, and have a pair of shorts that are comfortable and reliable, they wear, well, and they're made out of high quality materials. It's that's really important for us as professionals, my wrath. A bib shorts are the best in the world. Thank you very much. Indeed, to Rafeh are headline sponsor now. We will be presenting pedala's to Sharm women's through so please send us your nominations for pedals to Sharm for the week. I'm expecting couple of t shirts to be our hotel tomorrow night. So we'll be presenting on the final day. All have to say that was magnificent. Your best so far, the way you weaved free ballers a free block and mash up there, which I thought there's our entry for the British punk counts awards. Read ken? Difficult. It was to tell Toma Paul. I have no idea. Well, yeah. I mean some actually even reading them, I thought could be working, it could be I even though I knew it was a free quote. I'll be very excited to read the unders this if anyone gets this. Right. I didn't know what can we do for them. It'd be I'm gonna I'm gonna ask sciences sport or other sponsor for a bundle of sports nutrition products. So, yeah, scientists sport bundle will be winging its way to you. If you can identify all the references, and who said, what you don't need to say. What they're from what work they're from. If you can just it correctly identify the clothes. I'll be very impressive. Performance was really good. I mean I'm looking forward to the next two days already, if only four. Excellent. Well done 'em. Well, I think the states deserved it wasn't it wasn't good stage. And we weren't able to watch quite a bit of a and yeah. Big break. Eight minutes. They had at one point with very surprising to see that quite a big chase obviously happening behind to bring them back. And first time up the claim we were signing the top of the climb, and it was my lease. Longo bar Gainey. He seemed to be driving it forward at that point, followed by cash. Innovia Doma night on the big surprise. Leeann Lippert and Ellen. Van Dyke was they are there by Lisa Brenner, Jason to try and defend her jersey and clearly in the Doma and let part where the two strongest today, and they fought to the finish impressed by actually Brenna are because China to her afterwards. I mean, we saw the bodies strewn everywhere after the finish line riders were fulling off their bikes and exhaustion so much given the stage today. And Lisa Brenner was one of them. So I stood by her for good, five minutes along to recover by the time from her. No. Well, we would hear from her knife. Thank you very much. Except, of course, my recording didn't work, but, you know, she was saying today is just states, it would sit her and she was sort of dime, playing her performance saying, I'm quite proud of how we did. And then I pointed to her just just high incredible performance was the fact that she was right up there, every lap of, of that climb and just sorta, then give refills monitored you actually I'm quite delighted with high. We did that and we give everything. And she wasn't quite sure yet, if they had lost the jersey Aleutians pretty certain that they had, but she was really happy with their performance. I think really happy that they given it absolutely everything the team had given it everything that they done the jersey Justice, but it was that exhaustion across the finish line that really struck me. We don't often have the privilege of getting to see that really. And because we don't have summit, finishes very often in the women's where the tear it was. Yeah, it was quite quite remarkable. I thought, well, let's say it wasn't as a first summit finish in the race. And why is thinking because I know that before I've always had cash navy domain. She doesn't actually win them much oversee. She's done very well this year. Winning two gold now winning here, and I was just suddenly this comments where I say, and then I suddenly realize I'm completely wrong. I'm wondering if there's not enough of those kind of summit finishes out being up. You know, when you're up there, and there's nothing around you and, you know, you do difficult logistics, moving your car, and I'm used to doing that men's raises, but not very often using that women's races. Wondering if cash perhaps doesn't win as much she could. Because she's an actually have that kind as many opportunities with that kind of coin doesn't she the tough of the better is kind of how she functions but it was. Yeah. Great victory from her. But I thought leeann Lippo if that finish line was just slightly further. Leeann LIPA would have caught her because she was really coming up like a like a steam engine, she went so deep. I mean Richard book to her afterwards and just just watching her trying to recover wars quite a sight. We'll hear from her because she yes, she collapsed onto the very wet groaned podunk and sheep extra. Men all around. It was it was mucky out there. Monkey wasn't she threw herself to the ground. And she was really quite a bad way and wasn't able to speak for a while league Kertzman told me to give her some space which I did. And then corn Rivera appeared and Rivera, obviously won this race last year. And rare saying, I'm so proud of EMC lip is just twenty one years old. She's a German, champion, she's never really put in a performance like this in this company. So a real kind of breakthrough right for her today. We will hear a little bit of the star of this since few, you might just hear con Rivera saying that to her. And then you'll hear me speaking to her, and she was she was overwhelmed by all the second part few is I see once she'd realized that she was in the leader's jersey. And she'd read all the way down the hill to the boss hunter, right all the way back up again when she realized she was she'd won the stage. So here she is just beyond the line. And then just behind the podium, waiting to get the leader's jersey. Not was on incredible. Right. You manage their what you know, UN with do the best climbers in the world on this call. Believe it actually it's. Just unbelievable. I can't believe in where's this form come from hot training? And yeah. Confidence in my team. My team like most writings, superstrong me and also trust. They gave me I'm so so young. I'm the leader on this kind of race. We saw the kind of effort that you oversee HUD to me, Doug, very deep there. Extremely hot. It's I. Final. You went to Corrina sushi came across the line was the was she the leader for the team today. The team from you today. She's the good, but you see. So I'm not too tough sages a comfortable those. You were on your way by the hill, where you when you heard that you were in the leader's jersey. I was on the bus, actually had and I needed to climb up climb again. And everyone was cheering at me. So. Funny. I mean you were you know, you Doug Pradeep law say claims what was coming up again? All our costs for Novia. I was like. Coming close. But yeah, for sure she was super strong. But I'm happy with my second place in the jersey know I mean, what are your thoughts about being the jersey too tough seizures to go actually need to realize it? I just happens and yeah, I'm in jersey now and it's my first world to appoint home, ever so. Yeah, but I have a really strong team. They did it last year it at superstrong last year current. And now I'm an jersey bet. Yeah. We must see. Try my best chance of this race. Overall? I hope I will try my best. I have a strong team and yeah I'm confident. Yeah. Nice to the winner cash anemia Doma, and actually it's nice to see we get very used a cyclist saying take things day by day. All see how Malek's field tomorrow. But cash, she was actually going real high and was already staking a claim tomorrow stage and for the green jersey acting. Congratulations. Still, I feel like I just need that time to understand what these I mean it was wonderful, wonderful final because my team. Flins put everything into practice for them. I name longtime there. We our plan. Yeah, I'm still happy until because we achieve together. So. On your win was very different from the last time you want to. The key, the soda Bregasi used Monte. Yeah. How come? To be honest, this rain and conditions. I was in. I wasn't stressed. I was just thinking about going the and I still belittle rest before this race. So I wasn't sure how my legs gonna respond me. I feel I felt. Does it make you feel happier for the next couple of stages? Goes well yeah I do very tomorrow's gonna be sandy hard. I know that there. So I would just try to repeat my sexist from today, and does maybe would put me into green jersey. I do feel like this year your having a winning breakthrough. We know you can win. We know that you're always up to have. Win a huge. Definitely. No. I feel like I know when except me. Not. I didn't times. Became patients. Nowhere. What's my closer? We'll make goals are so that was conscious dome of the winner and it's worth noting that she's on same time as leeann Lippert on g c so they're very, very close. Lipper arguably has a stronger team perhaps, I don't know kinda Schramm pretty strong as both of them have got more or less Keeney laughed than she both have strong teams and someone have the experience of having defended the jersey last year, and it's going to be quite interesting. I do know that will be a factor, given the tomorrow, especially such tough stage. It'd be interesting to see because when I spoke to leeann leopard at the start of the stage today, it was very much by Koren's chances in the overall. And, and I was asking her about the fact that they were trying to as many of the individual at the intermediate sprint points as possible, and she mentioned the fact that, that carnivorous oversee end the points, jersey points, jersey sprint jersey, but that that was a target for the overall g C. So it'd be interested to see high that plays on the road to more whereas core. And at the end of today, don't have it, and she seconds, back forty seconds, which is quite is quite, a chunk, this stage isn't that so interesting to see whether leopard them becomes out defended right? I gas it depends on how while she recovers from the efforts of today. Really? But Gump's in the upper Lizzy Diagne is still there. You know, she did a very good right there. I think she's at the end of her tether. She's. The end of a big blocker racing illness, feels like she's wanting to get this behind her and have a proper rash is going to miss a national championships actually, which is quite a big deal. She needs a rash. She says she's writing very well. She's been writing credibly consistently here, especially having been caught in both crashes on Wednesday. So does keep saying, I think it was in stage, one to settle that was just too long team much time for me to thank I'd much rather be sitting on the sofa and again today when we caught up with her behind the podium, we asked her how it was just sort of rule derise of the smile, low and said, just such a long time to be there. She Hispanics, but she's, she's three seconds. Don't only, and she's been up there every day, and she's the best place in what is a very strong team. And we saw go board Gainey shoe she faded a bit today. Liz, he's going to have to carry the torch for because long is now fifty five seconds back. Well, one of us said long ago could he was going to win the stage? But yeah, so she after all of those efforts, she faded. And then that means fifty five seconds back. I mean Lizzy is the one that's got to do the work of the next couple of days, shall we? Hear from Lizzy the no you spoke to a rose. Is he the hold of treks does very active today? Tell us how. And yeah, the plan was to keep me in, at least in the final at least followed Casio that I climb. Fine. Strongest but we didn't know coming into the final whether it be more of a sprint so they, they let me out at least actually probably wasn't the best high ticketing stronger. How would you might have been played differently in hindsight has tainted longer? You know, we would have either launched an attack so that Casio heads counter, and I could try and hang on in the spring. All. Yeah, it was difficult to communicate snakes. The radio is always easy, and it's very hard to look at stage on papered and make it palm, especially in you'll sensations in a race like today traded so much. So I think as a team we wrote really well, I mean on and. Abby phenomenal the break reasonable time without them we wouldn't have been anyway. Hold him onto the DC so. Yeah. A second podium in this race. Yes. Seem to be there. Well thereabouts all the time. So, yeah, that's a good sign for me. Yeah, I've got some what to do and training still and it comes to the finishes, the prices so, yeah, pretty happy, which the next few stages, a uniform to most now. The finish line of the last one. Yeah. It's going to be to, you know to tough days ago, but the same for everybody, and I think we've got really strong position. Hi, I'm Sarah story. I'm the kademi principle of this, go to cycling academy. The, the concourse just of this amazing, Trumpcare Linda velodrome, we've got what bike sets up. We've got some Turbie China's set up. And we're about to do testing to select five applicants for the Skoda Diaz size cycling academy for twenty nineteen. So I do rowing as my main school, but I've always enjoyed cycling cross training for that until longer rides down. See how it went. Invited from Chester. So I drove off night too. Today. It was fun tough. I went off a bit light say to make up the end. Right. Levin of Todd. We have a quivalent tests on unknowing teens, but never on what bike say to quit knee. People say between Ryan siphoning a lot of leg based steam Ray. Put your help yours and cycling completely really useless. So I think I'm getting better at nine am. I putting needs to be at points in the test. So I'm able to light inside justed husband through. Yes. Yes. Gun keep learning get better. See how? Thank you very much indeed, to Skoda for their support of this podcast Femina for a second year for giving us a lovely car, and which is quite thirteen nine but we'll try and clean it and. Very thirsty bike in as well. But also, we heard a clip there from the school cycling academy at the few days ago, and which had involved fifty women been given opportunities to test. I think five have been slight to ride with internationales third of France this year. So we'll hear clips from that all this week. And now we have the competition of course, to name on the dusty Springfield song titles in yesterday's episode and an amazing prize, courtesy of iceberg. The prize Bank to have VIP tickets for hospitality at the end of stage, five tomorrow and also to go on stage to present the iceberg, jersey nine is very exciting. And we did have a winner got every single one of them. Right. And that was the owner. And then approve Fiona Prue we had a few who correctly guessed thing all or most of the. Those few very quick off the Mark, but feel no was quickest, so congratulations, feel should I read out? They wear in case anyone's I like to know at the end of a pub quiz. Correct, sir as where like to tie up the loose ends, so we had breakfast in bed. Give me time. I don't know want to do with myself if you go away. Early enough stay a while the middle of nowhere anybody had a heart wishing and hoping the windmills of your mind little by little and all cried so well done. If you've got all of those world fielder apologies to the others who sent an emails guessing guessing correctly, identifying the mole. I should I want to give a special mention to Mike wearing who's one of those people and sorry, Mike that you weren't weren't quick off. The Mark is feel. No, but he's emailed us again, tonight as you haven't been in touch lately, to tell me her clever. I'm for naming all of dusty Springfield hits. I thought I would tell you about my day women's through today, instead now, listen to this on my way to war at this one Emma is too. Reunite chat with his iphone and to aid, visually impaired lady who had been abandoned by her train company. So when I saw on Twitter, a message from Sophie, the borough of the park hotel, all combine team saying that she had lost her GPS device. Yes, in the crash it to go in Voss. I thought that sounded like a mission for me on my way home. I took it. The version two did call and went in search of the crash soon. Needless to say, I didn't find sufficient disappointing, but I did find heap of discarded race numbers, some swab wrappers and a sense of my own mortality, as lorries as Laura's sped past inches from my head, while I was able, deep and nettles and Brambles that'll teach me for thinking that things come in threes. I mean, Mike you deserve a prize for that. Fantastic on I'm sorry to your you weren't our winner while being very happy for feeling life. My winner life. In my life back. We'll we'll I mean we should send Mike some kind of prize. So we'll we'll come, we'll think of something, Mike M, and well, you phone feeling our winner. Let's hear what she said. I love fear. Yuna. Hi, it's from this. I came focused here. I'm very well. Thank you. I'm just bringing to say congratulations, that you've won are prized for stage five. You never win anything. This is a good one two and isn't it? Are you? Okay with going on stage performance. Yeah. Wow. We'll done. You got every single reference, right? Last night. So congratulations. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You did. We usually go for. He ever gets Cluses but got everyone right. So what we see in sage fan. Happy. Okay. We'll, we'll be in touch think of by organizing details and everything, but we will see you tomorrow. Okay. Very delighted feel an even more delighted Orla. Radio show host ringing, up being the good news. Good news and felt like I was giving. Tanya, free. Phony because because we're linking domestically here. Day giving good news. Realize by the end that I was signing more excited about the whole affair, then funerals. But that's because we get to meet her tomorrow. I think it's wonderful and exciting that we get to give such excellent Berg for very generous. And thank you for for that. So today. I mean a lot of well we've been crying for attacks and action and drama. And we got it today at the end, obviously, when these strong writers emerged, but Sarah ROY of Michigan, Scott was one of the writers that featured in the, the big break, she's more of a sprinter won a stage last year into Lymington spa. Didn't she? And it wasn't it was the very same stage of being unsheathe had a nasty fall. She was involved in that first crash yesterday, Scott quite a nasty wound on her arm. So get effort by her today to gab the roads and spoke to finish. Big. A plan today. Our position, you find yourself in didn't think any rata plans on a hundred and forty something breakaway, especially not on your iron, but yeah, I wasn't feeling that good today. So I thought just an attack to sit up and teammate, so that I could have an opportunity and. Yeah, just get things going bit. That was a big Lal in the in the polish on just. Yeah. Why not? Yeah. Just fan myself in the position in the end. And then it was perfect actually for my teammates, and grace brand who is a good little climber. And it was awesome opportunity for her to fully the favorites. And and yet they sit up well into the finished crime the the crush yesterday. Bondage there. Yeah. Pretty soul. Like most people, I'm sure nothing significant just you usual, bumps and bruises so yo-. Good ROY, a sleeper, in the top ten is Lizzy banks, the big Loa writer who they came with just four writers. Of course nother one of the biggest names in the race. Okay. Teams are small. Yeah. And those two CCC writers rattling around in huge boss. I spoke to them this morning. I spoke to their Diaz as well. Yeah, I mean, it's an old situation, isn't it, and they're gonna go surely, well, what are they going to travel around, and then they can't really can they, it's like it's like I was trying to journal coverage of the year recently in probably. But I was saying that whenever they start to pack up the bus around you, if you the last one on the on the time trial courses. So demoralizing the counting the bustle from the bus for Moreau. The camp of on and Marianna Voces done. Yes. Brothers. Continuing with the rest of the wrist because they've got their boat booked at the end of the year. We'll hear from the final. Rinn was saying the he was saying that oversee ni-. They get their opportunities to go for whatever they want. They've got an absolute freedom, and you have to frame it that way you have to do something turn it around. The riders themselves were saying, yeah, it's bet lonely on the bus if they are offering a delay, but they can do they like in the rea-. So it would be good, if they could do something they were aiming for a showing in a breakaway at some stage or going for stage wins the two more stages left to issue themselves. They're blowing leaves a very good writer in this day, but most famous, of course, for punching Bobby Dooley on the Eliezer one year after the final stage with the fronts, if she didn't have a similar run and Porteous. Porteous. Anyway, we mentioned Lizzy banks of big, LA rose. You spoke to Lizzy at the star and Lee Thomas the finish. Lizzy banks, the stop because she's she's also from this area, all you met some of her family, her family, right? The finish line. Yeah. And she was smart. She was the last rider off the climb because she was just chatting away to your family. And I said, well, believe you're still smiling after high brutal that stage wasn't. She was right up there all day. Why would not be having my family here? This is brilliant, sage brilliant day sought, positively total garlic Russian her. And I love her and Lizzy banks has been doing so recent. He's had seven top tens this season. She came third in the in the Jacobs just the other week. So she's really inform. And alongside her is Thomas and they are very similarly match in terms of the talent banks until Mus the very good friends, and so they from infantry. Infantry's. They finished sixth and seventh on this stage together. They think when we saw them go past. They were really attacking and really got into a great game kind of playing features talents. I mean Thomas, you might remember from last is Lacoste. She made an amazing solo break. She was head for very long time. She's a great time triallist and yeah, we really we thought the biglou would come with four riders now three and not be able to do anything. And here we are what an amazing result. So let's hear from Lizzy and layer Lizzy few climbs this race. They relishing the opportunity. Yeah. It's a really good kind of climb for us with. And I it's really nice because when, when the race has been appointee. And so far we've been able to kind of be can counter we're really small teams any three of us, and we started with full, so it's really hard for us to be aggressive. But we've always been. When we needed to be, and unfortunately, we lost Latin crushes say she's pretty shot, but she is. Okay. So, yes, she was pretty key writer for us seven it's going to be even hottest day. But I think, yeah, I think despite the we're small, we're pretty strong, so yeah. Which is going to see what happens that it's the kind of racing that we've really it's called as long as is hard. So see what happens stand tomorrow. And do you have a plan between each other, or, or you're just going to talk about it on the road? Yeah. We have a plan. But we also work really well together. We're really good friends as well off the bye. And I think that's really helpful because you just you just know you know what to do and the way that we were racing the past three days. It was perfect, like she would go, I would go, we didn't even have to speak. I mean my radio wasn't working. So we couldn't speak. But yeah, we didn't need to when you're exactly what to do, when like before we even discussed the plan when you exactly what we need to stay. So, yeah, we're excited, you know, this kind of pressure on us every sniffing aspe- only three riders. So we've got the opportunity and we're going to try and take it stay tomorrow on the next day. So yeah, the racing the racing tomorrow is really pretty similar to how the racing toward a Yorkshire was which I really liked one pretty well for us, so. Yeah, today is a bit more kind of punchy short. You got on the lap. But tomorrow tomorrow, I think he's going to be really savage day and a really, really good for us. I hope. Fantastic. Thank you, Lizzie. Good fun. Walk out how you wanted to. Yeah, we're always aiming for the top ten I mean it's always nice to land on the podium. But I think we played really well today and gave it I rest, I've heard there's really strong writers here. So you think over our pretty happy. And how did the race develop overdose? There's hard, you know, like when I break with gone, they had over seven minute advantage and kind of pending around and. I personally enjoy it when the racing picks up, so it was nice to really have to focus and. Really try to put respite forward for today's and of the station sending me this morning about how well you to work together your your talents, very similar on buying I only get off the bike teammates last year. Funny. I had health care for cycling. So we already have a year of racing together under about. So we're able to read each other pretty well. And kind of play off each other with attacks and share the workload or decide who's doing the work whatever we need to do. And it's just really easy to communicate return work with her, and it makes racing really always me hit. Of the mountains. Richard. How was that riches? Good timing. You are. You're actually you go sweat dripping down. You y'all the out breath. Well, observed. Hey. Got some cheers, there up the climate night, few encouraging. Shirts, and didn't help much told near the Boston by Marshall, you need to go quicker chop peleton's approaching. Well that was Queen of the mountain Richard mall reflect until the race came through. I think lost my title thank like high high optimistic you're signing their church. Almost certainly lost your title. I would pace that are the go up him initially with warm up straight from the pub here. So just that seal me that's the time that will. I was basing by the bass women in the convenience it with. Trees being. Stop. Yeah. You know, I'd get more media pass to get through time nosed fast as it might have been. He was properly source see probably probably sweat a lot at didn't see really regretted it. Regretted immediately. But yeah. Looking forward to the car the car's journey. I used to be brewing. That was just doing in my own juices as we as we heartful towards Wales. But it was very, very beautiful, circuit I enjoyed it was nice ago in between the showers of rain. Nice give Eisai's hoping to maybe get other by right? Tomorrow cycling. Citing podcast. Femina is supported by science in sport. Science bolt few why sites, thank you very much. Indeed, to scientists sport for supporting the cycling podcast Femina and for the thing, the present for tonight's winner, which I'll tell you about scientists sports Moro. Hopefully. That's okay. Very they'll be they'll be great nice generous bundle of sports science products. And you can get twenty five percent off all your scientists sport. Science and sport dot com with the code. The whole thing. Yeah. Brings the food bowl. Well, we're in the pope. Fruit machine. He's very appropriate got a plane to coke on the go off ago. As soon as I see five see between CPT as I see twenty five. I should say the pub kindly turned the music of so we can recall another role. Another role. Anyway. Thank you science and sport. And an advance for the threat kind prize. And I we were it was. The aftermath of the crash really this morning, miserable morning, Warrick renewing again and a long, tough stage and quite a few writers still in pain from the crash the previous day. The big the headline, of course, was false abandoned the race while in the race lead, as she went toss Patil. She had stitches on hurt the bro. Her nose and in her mouth, and she didn't stay in hospital and went back to team motel last night, and her father Hank Voss at the start this morning and got little update from him. I mean how is Marianne vision she was in hospital overnight known a yesterday, the without L backtra dot L D in the plus territory? And finally, he's okay. So no concussion or anything like that. Concussion. She's the no, no, no, no, no way or something little won't in inside the mount. But and the no. But on the legs, and nothing which is and those from the sun gall while infant. Where is she is now on the AM? And then she very disappointed. Yeah. These was quoting dude who chairs and the possibility to into win this race. You will always great, and then down the value digit point. I'm to any idea when she'll be able to get back on her bike tomorrow. No mater wanted to get came home. And maybe maybe he often Nunu is not the reigning than me, go the by over there on the okay? What about you? Are you staying here? Are you? I am mixed feeling now say, yeah. Do something what team little thing. Yeah. Spot, she'll be back over show would. So there we aren't. She returned home to Holland on Thursday. And I when I asked him when she'll be back on her bike, as you heard, he said, nor- normally the softer noon today, so she's probably being by back on her bike already it, she'll be guttered. I'm sure because she looked in really good shape and really good position to, to do very well in this race. So a real shame you supposed to Carmen small as well, rose. I think did you see her in conversation with someone else? A heated discussion with a few members of the organization. So I thought I'd get. Microphone in them and find out what was she lost half the team, you stay in the trashier she's yes, sorry team virtue. And they lost half their team in the crushes yesterday. I think she wasn't completely happy with exactly how not how it was handled. But I think. Emotions were high. And yeah, so I think she also mentioned that Safiya but it solo she was, you know, trying to jeer up for the stage, but actually, unfortunately but solo abandoning with six other people today, which is credible with no incidents, people just really feeling their injuries. But this is what common has to say today communists, so unit of a lively discussion with some of the organization, the earlier, can you tell us some your concerns reason? Yeah. I think in general when you have a massive crash like that there's a lot of chaos and a lot of things going on. And we are all looking out for the better the writer, and we want, just our every writer because I'm outside the car. And I'm seeing, you know, twenty people on the ground, and I'm also helping other riders, not just mine, and everyone's trying to help each other in that instant, and there's a lot of chaos going on. And so, I think sometimes that. Excitement or journal in or. You know, craziness is maybe. Confused with a different emotion. And so, you know, I think we're all trying to do our best for the writers point. And so there was some confusion with paramedics. Trying to get everyone moved. And, yeah, of course, we need to move out of the way, but we also need to collect everything to then move out of the way. So it doesn't it's not simple. And I think yesterday was really difficult for a lot of teams. And you know now. We try to fight another day and virtually lost half of riders. Where'd you go from here? You have to change your plans completely. Yeah. I mean right racing with three and set of six pretty big difference in, we still have three stages to go. So we need to look for -tunities take every day as is and, you know, really we're down to two so fee is one hundred percent Tennissee. What happens so severe she starting today and hoping to get through it and have a yeah. I'm hoping I think it's a little bit of shock as well with the crashing. And you don't wanna see a crush yourself like that. And it's really traumatic mentally I think try to get over that mentally as always difficult. Then. Just trying to get through the days and recovers much as possible. So bike racing isn't an easy sport. So it takes really tough people to do it. So that was common smelled the team virtue cycling and that well we've got a good race in store. Thank haven't way. We're heading into Wilson. I got quite a long drive so we should we should make a move. Think very close between leeann Lipper and cash Novi Doma on a fascinating battle shoot ensure between those riders and their teams and behind. That is why I think I mean I- Lizzy Diagne is looking incredibly strong and would maybe get a little bit of extra support along the roads and maybe boy, her in some way. But I think the Basle is looking very exciting ni-, and given that we're going into what's been billed the toughest stage of this year's race. Thankfully, we're not going into it. Like we did last year whereby. There wasn't much action in their run-up to ni- things have been split apart. Little bit. Everyone is saying what each other has gone. We've had that sort of stalemate standoff with hundred of action. And so, I think tomorrow will be brilliant day on the road. I'm really looking forward to one of us is going to go in the kindness room theme car, perhaps your life. You find it be up for that, for sure. And well, we'll shit up. Some interesting stuff from tomorrow night, but let's get let's go on the road. Show in drive to zone into into Wales. Where is it we're going folks who can pronounce it? Please winning the well, we need wrong. Dave. Patrick ola. Question is, what are we going to? Listen to you all are playlists along the way, Shirley Bassey. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. But Tom Jones Joe, what do you call them, humbugs and glad rags, they were Welsh Sherry phonics. St. peaches yet. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Come on rich. Women carry on with the podcast. Even listen to it which I don't really want to mention because. Well, yeah, I mean we can recommend it. But I would say it's for north for a family audience. With your. You're, you're Jordan. Jericho one won best comedy at the British podcast awards, but starstruck. You didn't want to go over and speak to them because you're slightly nerve. Slightly younger. Listen to more of deer Joel Jericho for adults only while you continue to see in your own juices, cheer. One thing you recommended a podcast as well rose. We were going to listen to the tip off is exceptional very different from joining Jericho Nehring different. But yeah, that's what about investigative journalism and some of the big stories how they were found really good really good. Listen to limit. For more comedies, we will find other comedy podcast along the way. A few laughs shall we get goes eight eighteen? A gang can freed country. She's on a high leaving behind towards an evening of mirth and raucous laughter. 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"You're listening to the podcast spending an association with russia the find the clothing in the world tour the homeless silently would comic writer launch with russia in twenty nineteen but they talk education first canyon shrimp you're listening to the cycling podcast femina brought to you by skoda dedicated to creating the gender gap inside one race one scientist in time it on time plumes which is more i'm with throws manley live on or should we haven't been asked by the looks of things the mayor to quite appropriate isn't that let me die and sometimes life is my this is my only communication with outside world you say when they lost me anthony i suck so we did a podcast well not quite students going cover the front spoiler far chasing yeah off to brussels tomorrow yet so were were climbing in a delight episode of the cycling podcast feminine cramming enrich currently in maine we've all loss to do haven't we had all along coming in in that stretch of i opposite 'cause nobody wants to look for some way yes that's the plot of saint yes we've got this extra episode and we wants to look at the deal rosa which begins on friday a rose you've interviewed on a mix of lifting the champion on favorite for that that's really contraction and i know incredible lessening she then she would listen to the women sir coverage while officer training henry she told you is yeah degree just just thinking back to what i might have said about i think you're thinking okay but i might have innocent back just in case we know no disagree right about great person i'm would also gonna hear from ashley moon paseo am who was second in the last year and it's going into it with great hopes again this year will also hear from a couple of women who are writing the root of the tour de france one day ahead of the man's to defense as part of the international sales a group of mainly british women m and they are backed by skoda who also of course support the cycling podcast femina so so we'll hear from the final part but what about your news orla you turned up again he joined up a new racing obviously because we pulled casted from the last race focusing ahead of an x ray well there have been plenty happening in the perimeter reuss like like they do but they don't cut its worst here mrs obviously a they do kind of racism we will touch on a few of those are far too many of those three unfortunately but before we get to that it's a we have had the woman's world calendar ninety four twenty twenty but that's just start earlier in the past few years with dale evans great ocean road race that cat chilly titles name a is not in the top tier of race has said means the world to kick off in fabri next year instead of having to wait till march like we usually do first rather be on k at ci racist notable at for their absence in the world calendar and that could mean berra on the potential ride lumped in classic classic walls and registered because of a date a clash because they changed it for them but game so conscious of the latest sure of norway so they say they're disappointed by that they'll try to get back next year and two races that are on the calendar though and perhaps surprisingly given all the news random flesh alone on liaise buster only age we thought they would lose their status because they wouldn't comply we understood what the new rule that a woman's whereas he races must provide live forty five minute coverage but you see i say progressive and they were trying like that before we started recording like yeah we were chatting but it did say these silencing the counter said all the races including world tour have agreed to meet the criteria among which includes live television coverage and it's not just those two racist by the women's throughout the other races as well most races are do have live tv coverage and i but women stewart doesn't so i'm not really sure how that's going to be resolved because as far as i understood rooms to consider a lot of tv coverage to be be on them financially at the moment so i don't know i'm not necessarily tv coverage live streaming service that could they is a requirement that could be the way of getting around like if it's only forty five minutes yen oversee all of those a stage is when they have like low collapse dot com will be quite simply simply done watch the national championships being large stream outlawed yeah just feed the gum she looked stunning in the sons resplendent sunshine will did illustrate the problems of live streaming in the uk i mean it's easier in in other parts of the world seems where this far better three g for ge coverage but in the uk it's very very difficult yeah so we'll have to see whether or not those regulations going to be strictly adhere to say and then yeah but that means there's racist but they're the races that are on the line up for nine we do coming maybe the woman's through will be sucked stooges run the current cycle park let's hope what a thriller that much i love cycler park a but we do have other changes coming next year the new two tier at system teams have been created a world teams in continental team on three teams have registered so far for the top tier f dj accident future scope w n t will end alley chip aleni ability in its first five top tier teams in the first year or those three of the five you might have expected where the gonna be done in definitely i mean chip leaney's wanna really sticks out to me as the kind of surprised they tend to kind of move under the radar but i think as tj if you have a a men's team maybe there is a bit mole a budget that i own a bit more ambition to jamaica a bigger teams but a yeah they they wouldn't be the ones i immediately that's the show yeah you mentioned the the lights of both the woman's a kenyan shrum a mentioned since go willow one world through states is to avoid having said what's the incentive to be a world tour team if you're if if there's only five you know it's not i think those teams are gonna struggle to get into the biggest races so now i'm not really sure what these guys i see a lot of teams i don't know what they're getting in return really yeah it's a good question other than to be seen to be helping to professionalize the sport 'em vm it's built a fifteen teams by twenty twenty three in and maybe by the end there will be a very obvious benefits the teams who are they talked to you compared to the second tier who knows boats and if there is competition for places i understand the party on haas head economy more than five in the first year only say it here to this strict criteria on things like minimum wage maternity leave on a certain ethical standards we may have more evidence reregistered destroyed so far m was those three teams are aiming bag virtue sight lines as folding due to a lack of sponsorship that's a team had a vibe yarn race and i mean hate aims to build a danish superpower rarely in the site playing the man's program team while which is racing in the continental level will continue twenty twenty but the women's team is going and that means that democracy nellie midseason it's not having to look for new team and she said that she had lots of offers earlier in the season when she was doing incredibly well she wants flanders on rent a pet highground she got injured she had to pull out of a chair rose up because of tens and i said she recognizes it because of being overworked to her overbooking herself and so now she's not ready horrible position having to go back possibly two teams cheese offer she had originally turned died when she's no ns flying for the kids she thought she had a contract until twenty twenty aside from her i'm sure she'll be snapped up in somewhere other but whether it's a favorable as it might have been probably not as you say plenty of national championship weekend as well which way the tournament my head or my fingers on twitter 'em sunday nights rarely bang they double alice barnes say twenty three year old taking they individual individual time travel on the road race in great britain risk winder to see american national jersey off the back of corner there he finished second and make fun of religion who were about to hear from became the dutch time travel champion once again taking the title she lost one in twenty c seventeen she will not four times which is remarkable and itself but it was a margin by what she was over thirty kilometers she'd be ellen van dyke by a minute and a half van dyke only getting fourteen seconds on of under bragging that cnn difference in those time discrepancies beavis at they dutch roadways title among final bit of news not the kind of news that we won't be hearing although am y'all would make any comment on it actually because it is not a legal case you cia opened a formal investigation into allegations of abuse inappropriate behavior against the general manager of house may cyclists patrick son counts and you may have all seen i'm sure everyone has seen the news articles the three three writers he left the women's team in the last twelve months and they launched formal complaints but they use ea ethics committee has since said i think it's ten further writers have come out to corroborate their stories and and complain i they're giving the names or anonymously against on guns and he she has categorically denied the claims against him a he put a statement all these teams website defending himself and saying that the writers were and i quote in one way or another failed to be a member from dc i team lifeguards he said some struggled with where the twelve kilos of excess weight others austin completely ignored team orders and still others did not trained when it rains a little bit and did not even show up several times when they had to race course 'em so he is taking if he's threatening to take legal action against each is that his name he knows and so that process currently underway the solstice closing in the wealth to the home it's sightseeing with character right in watch with the in twenty nineteen as they partner e at the education fast and canyons from i think a rough of their choice of the one of the most important items okay then we got some the main point of contact quits if i can you spend hours and hours riding a bike sienese be comfortable and yeah how's this for say you get from them high on spawns nights attendance from racing i didn't never thanks very much to are headline sponsor raffle for their continued sponsorship of the cycling podcast femina very grateful indeed to them and they said earlier we're looking at the jeeter rosa rip but here from funds luton but i'm just briefly on the course of this year is ten stages begins with a team time trial on friday in columbus their team time trial and it's a very mountainous miss race the the the stand i kind of stages states five goes over the gavia one of the the real mystical claims in italy and there's a time tro the next day which again very important and could be tough after such difficult stage on them and it finishes with a with a claim is well right they end stage ten so race could be in the bounce right right till then the last year a boost in really am with the she really dominated the time trump took a long time there is a time traveler and a on his own columbus the real kind of showpiece menzies last year so those two stages five and six over the garvey and then the time trawl are could be the these the decisive days but the race and days it will certainly suit am enemy found listen who based on her performance in the dutch time trolled championship i think goes in as a real understanding favorite am on under bragging oversee one the rose up for a couple of times i am but she says she says well bitten by phone booth and a which is quite surprising to see i mean visor bragging didn't write the heroes a lost year so i think it would be interesting had had between those two this year yeah or something i found very interesting i saw from valley focus tweeted out which the you know the top citing photographers s on the women's pellets and they said that the lost i think for additions v be winner was the year before which is an interesting fact which would mean that it was a amanda sprouts yeah which is probably not gonna be see case because it'll be riding the nuns luton i this could be a bit of a dark horse so couldn't say because if everyone is busy concentrating on make ventilation and she on on the reagan are marking each other amount of spots could see benefits not you never know you never know she could by the time file could be the the stage that that proves most decisive but certainly that team mitchelson scott looks looks very very strong on paper and you know they were they were powerful jewel last year when they sprouts and fans listening and and certainly in the in the climbs sprites very strong they'd all the other teams am in cash and if it leads kenyan shrum mind voss and i see moving past seal ccc lives and see leadership lewd vegas think at could ride really well she would well last year the euro zone and she's taking the time out racing to prepare altitude and we'd be glop recycling at euros i think she could be capable of a strong performance there anyone else coach heroes i'm just gonna mention i marino because all she she added stunning performance or they zone cullen and i mentioned movie star will have been they've been kind of stepping up over they lost yeah and imagine they kind of but looks like a team that should be working support so depends how well she does as you say richard but the time tro it's not right tunnels not long but it could be that might be somewhere if you complete all around and then that might be a bit of a hiccup some of the ride is one of the writers that sam cassie media dome at least tapped for a bit of a surprise from her team omar shapira at the israeli national champion and then you the newest member of canyons from at navy said she could be a bit of a surprise she could shine and the guy vm she did well the trip california recently finishing it the world's fifth on the queen stage in mind bold bold say but one thing that navy said that i find interesting is that i mean she doesn't think she rarely sunday chance of winning the jarrow says she says her climbing just isn't all of the caliber of 'em gavia at that stage as she you know obviously she prefers 'em at this age in her career they art as a shorter punch declined but she did say that if she wanted to win she would have to take time out from racing uncalled titrate more on building up to the chair rossa and i just thought that was interesting because of are ongoing debate as to whether you can combine the woman's chair for example with preparation for this year rosa and it got me looking at some of the contenders and how many days of racing they've had this year so far on a make ventilation has had seven days seventeen rather seventeen days of racing on seventeen days she had three wins three additional podiums as she had twenty days of racing in twenty eighteen so her preparation it'd be even more streamlined last year for out of under bragging she said twenty days of racing says three more than make and she has also had three wins if you can't a stage any overall in california they're two separate will call them separately yeah i'll tell you the truth and decide if i had three additional podiums so i listen hooked on the fiesta might have racing days i'm asking on the posse with a twenty six racing days on sesame street looks like how's it twenty just the same as an underdog and so when we are seeing west virginia reuss at least a more targeted approach like we see what the man's racing from the writers whose team still alive and to do that because not every team can afford to live at riders to am take time off whatever races they might have targeted as a team to concentrate on this and that she she would have done more days racing when she had she a not an abandoned from be women still so that would have been on donald trump days racing issued a dumb and that's it that's another part of the problem like aspects but drag the woman's cherry an extra rest gracing stage to close the jarrow say is you have more chance of crimes and racing one would assume that in training so we'll see how she's recover from that will will hear from her as well a bit later on but let's hear from me on blitzen defending champion favorite a just back from altitude and you rules caught up with her the other day i should stop by saying congratulations so your national t t touched him this week thank you and you and you want it by quite a long way with that they give you confidence this film is where most of the best way to a jewish and to get some confidence euro a necessary but most of us the score so that's like a modern way out and back you convince my technical also a dancer has done such a teaching you know the power there and then the and notice i'm commonwealth show at a spring on jarrow and preparation the mississippi done and i said you did they were lost see you haven't done it this year did you make any changes said did you ever do this you know not really across a lot fewer commercials shoot a pretend to refund the same what i only know i my loss become dinner dinner east two weeks but i spent so much time already and then finally when i saw that the wetter most nice in me i a to a philosophy to switch show which already enjoy this the best station betray you were hearing some of the stages and see which ones he recommends and how many times did he do then yeah i mean that's just secrets british schicker when i read this week on the show and the garbage like it hearings in that area and that's gonna mean those the stages that you'll gonna be the most i mean the guy is of course gonna be the most crucial beat saint thomas who's gonna be one of the signing stage of the race yes but it's not that long so i think they're coming more time to focus on the guy steak advil gashi four thousand meter elder judicial the elevation to to stick around us so that's a crazy amount of climbing in the in mongo show i get that wrong will be arabia despite to think and how will that states competitive stays that you've done before how about even his own line and these are the you don't race who either our they'll find out the truth about two thousand ten meters show you get down to less appealing but we'll be favorable girl's death can that's a little bit better or bench who else should maybe a shows oklahoma's nabet high those seats the number is high and got the best defense is this the highest mountain in creed finished i think i did stelvio dough in two thousand detonated euro that's all either striking a higher two thousand honda but is that a guy that almost the same to try and fix that and you will ask in la keno maybe they should have done much oxygen so it'll be interesting and sometimes she that girl strike eighty home gutless more altitude a deal better because you more used to it i mean you've been pretty much living out the reef oh yeah but i mean i guess a lot more right is gonna follow in your footsteps footsteps and banging out long ago and maybe doing the right thing yeah i i just sixty three above cost you you get comfy the explosive amos tour blockbusters great choice to learn how to do yeah i heard discussing to mm yeah so it's a we need it i think one of the best states racist but it's also like it's still second game show it is based on that it's not nothing i i want to be there for the core so they have to change change that they put in it's time to make a whole a defense are also follows the business of discussion about how deluca next year so it would end it's october make difference but i think it's a beautiful organized race and the law states that followed by the focus because it's done yet sound very exciting but yeah i saw now more girls skipping women story and also a following it at my approach off a racing and then do a block of training in and saw more and more goes go to the gym i think that's also it's not that they want a copy but i am doing i think it's also a sign of professionalism in the entire thing that's getting more and more pressing professionalism in that also means like after focus more on specific racist for yeah website just race likes from february until september and october killing yourself so this is just a normal step in in a in montgomery mall professionalism invaded psych he'll be annoying to rosen into you i wanna do a target says yeah it doesn't feel differently coming into as defending champions of the best time no because i don't feel that i have the defense okay i mean just prepared for the jarrow in school and in new jersey nucor so if i don't have the defense so famous just a beautiful race and they were very excited for in a little bit slightly more relaxed i think i know how it is to win and how the defense and my my team though hit so let me be crushed targeted three years ago in two thousand seventeen 'em yeah we were less experience and no more confidence did my team around me that's got so much experience so yeah defending if you're protecting days now to prepare for such a big stage which and you mentioned twenty seventeen the i mean how much of a a release for the into winning twenty eighteen having kind of missed out of a frustrating way in twenty seventeen losing a bit of time on what seemed like he was flat staged back then yeah super stupid so yeah i learned a lot from that day that you can switch off one day and age hero so you have to be focused for ten days and that's also something that's for me someone else's heart forever on his heart and may more respect for the they're grown to a racist for my a goalie meant that listen to me one day but basically a now i i i had the signs that i that i could finish it off in two thousand sixteen so it's not a big we d plus more a hot a lesson learned the hard way i guess that could be more focused yeah tell us about twenty eighteen because three states winds down a modest by whom fulfilling the podium that seems like a race that was very much in since goats controlled the whole time what was it like that humanity or old never any trouble damage control and and also test is that way tests that team a teammate there are a few that are loyal and 'em yeah in trouble and so no i know i was isolated so scripts that more climates but also boss bobbitt like sharable by gracie often off a beautiful key metrics are you really see the picture so they'll get goosebumps after that seem efforts is there any particular the moment not say that that really stands out with just getting the paint a day especially right and then no i think the las vegas look the biggest a memory loss air fink a tree memory so so the at a time traveler i took so much time defense but i i couldn't believe it i love it so much a handle fashion along on the pill like you're always nervous and after being like that in your main but you're very special and also because i before in the boss they told me that i'm not a crime and then if you win on such a yeah uphill climb yeah you you know did you i change myself a little bit too much outlet in some more climber in the yeah i it's hockey hockey belief and stopped myself that i can do it up him so special man and also the phone cologne day i think my team borough doubt all day in front of me a like i i remember that oh that's called train is coming in a the yellow and black girls were saying like that like mayor so structure it's an riding the ghana in so much trouble until the color starter so i mean my my ethic a whether they're on the super bad better just before the cologne jalen then such deep deep climbing i said before to my ds like i lady which like i'm already in the jewish people we would like man that's gonna be be so beautiful to win a support system cullum women so yeah just those memories i suppose you're looking for then since go trained to come here's well yeah i think he's on the phone guests that praying so everyone is very excited so a at that also gives me goosebumps sets everyone wants to be now in europe team and before i think a couple of years ago because they don't want to variety to europe because of us nothing bad will goal for them use your steamy off ill or fletch been stages now it's it's cool to notice that it's a dad of six ride that are so like when you're a little bit of five in our team against the next year so lens yeah that's a that's that's cool feeding i think the back of the pack this episode on the cycling podcast femina is sponsored by be economist which of course is a smart guy eight the forces impacting you're world economist is by far far more then just economics and finance it covers a range of subjects from world politics and business is science technology arts environment on sports help feeders 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the world cup are currently taking action on dirt equal pay act and title seven of the civil rights act they're saying that they're engaging in substantially equal equal work for as a man's tame but their page considerably less not a woman 'em would receive a pizza teams play twenty friend of the course of the year unwinnable the woman would receive ninety nine thousand dollars the man would receive two hundred and sixty three thousand three hundred and twenty dollars no the reason this is so interesting i think is because we hear the same old documents time and time again when it comes to pay a discrepancy in a late sport in particular any argument is always that i either the woman don't do as much as a man or they they don't get the same audience eggers on westie american football teams in football teams of america not simply not the case because a wall street journal investigation station in order to find on reports find it between twenty sixteen and twenty eighteen women's games generated by fifty point eight million dollars in revenue the man chicken by forty nine point nine million almost the same but not quite the women are actually generate more revenue than the men are not gassing as much money so this cast as a test case for sport across the board i think will be absolutely fascinating and it just because of their profile profile that a win at the world cup would bring internationally the story i'm not going for america to win even though the doctor in the semifinals and rarely party here i think she's going to be cheering all the usa principles over penalties teas orla i have never ever life and outweigh never oh i'm getting old onta i think that's the thing with that would they also to me just smacks of you know moving goalposts nazis and it's like the worst part of my sylvia's pun i could've used but it is but it is 'cause it's like well you know if you only they always say we women's booker sport if you only go the number of audience take is the number of endorsements is the men do then you'd be he's the same that's all you need to do you think okay that's that's about trying to do that that's trying to start exposure trying to start a business associations and then it just goes to prove that you could do all that and still be pavement and when you compare the two teams sorry abs say the most successful team in woman footballing history the man here on more money than i am their best result has been third place in which world cup nineteen shane third say you read the well done and they found even qualify last time around i'm sorry hotel b s as francois would say with them lesser brady well the article the article is headlined factor play lesser payments send the recent edition of the economists if you'd like a free print copy of economists just text the word bikes be i k e s two seven eight two seven new bikes two seven eight two seven oh four free print copy of the economist when we heard before the break there from enemies i listen i think it was struck me most rosa do if this was your impression sprinter but she says very relaxed and i think she's you know she's no in the in the first flush of youth sports times i mean she's you know she's she's thirtysix nine and yet she signs on on rise like somebody who's really figured i worked on wall works for her and she seems normal makes of you know perform really well and the bite but kinda contend often she's she seems to like this life she leads of of you know spending a long time altitude trading really hard she posts on social media some the ride she does m will hear from more postulate thrown who thinks it is the most dedicated writer in women's sport and it seems to me that she is just fire and she's figured i there's interviewer rides a day stay with her cyclist magazine actually 'em where she talked about in tokyo being a big motivation for her the the what happened in rio is is is laughter with this motivation to kind of doesn't dwell on that whole but she you get the sense she's really focused on through pure in particular and getting olympic gold medal since you mentioned her age isn't that not she'll consequences of her age the fact that you say that she's got it figured out that she is more confident that she finds whatever balance she needs between training and winning and lifestyle and all the rest of it it would seem that if a sport could allow you to benefit from experience rather than go against jay then so much better and that seems to be the case attire certainly i think also i mean did you rose is ten stages and i mean the women's till six stage is only been six age this year yours is always been the longest 'em race is still running and i think that it takes a bit of time to get into the rhythm one of the jurors as well and being able to know about how to preserve some energy and she said when i spoke to about a twenty seventeen when it went the wrong when she was crosswind zona very innocuous flat stage age and she lost i think almost several minutes on say just because a team missions call rick scott is it was the time wasn't a wet they have to keep the front even on those days when it shouldn't have been a g see day so i think so it's about the team being experience and she's got a for the ride is a dish if it lining up much since got the same as loss when they won an ad that is a with a team that is there any six right is now instead of seven this is they've you reduce the teams at schaefer these stage races ends i think she's gonna not only she's gonna tap i think mitch scott have got it well how is well i think also walk came across here in a few roses is her commons is a climber again she spoke about this in the southern to wear her takes away from from real was no she crushed and lost a potential gold medal but that race proved that she is one of the best climbers in the world and i thing and she she took from that this confidence that when it comes to their minds and she is the writer to be an on again am to car loan time maybe figured i but not confidence is sort of giving her wings in the mountains and she looks at the course for the euro's of this year and things a lot it's grown nobody can beat me on the yeah it's amazing ready carmen but speaking to her in a couple of years ago doing at a feature about the mud if we in slash alone and you know she had done well one year in the postseason and i'm talking to her about it and she and her saying yeah it's funny though did so well on it because it's rudy doesn't suit they you know climbing israeli not my thing 'em and now think about commit now it just seems completely ridiculous pissy when you think about and the best climb independence and you immediately think of any consolation well civil here now from another great claiming she moon paseo who is second in the general last year a and as you mentioned she crushed the women's tour so her preparations being disrupted the and she's okay after that no no ill effects but the disruptor build up to the race but she's in tracy on looking ahead to this race but also on where the geo rosa says in the women's calendar on the show a chapter four are books like the podcast but a couple years ago about how the heroes of was no as prestigious race as it should be as the premier women's stage race in the world and women's to her she recognized famous overtaking but she's maybe slightly different you know and here's what she had to say i think this is kind of a predictable jira such it's sort of some land that we have that skill finishing up showtime charles m mid mid way and then they lost stage is is also quite a big climbing day but there are a lot of hot stated in between you know and probably slightly less predictable stages because i'm not necessarily just finishing with one big rock hill a couple of times and the day i'm so i think it's it's a kind of less predictable gina i think it's gonna be a year where you know you have to re smartly i'm saving energy in the beginning but at the same time the race could kind just be decided on on any one day of course the the time tra and the guy be a stage and the second lost i'm ready big i feel that you are going to be very important but it's painful important day so it's gonna be one of those to his way you know you have to pay attention and just you know a lot of writers obviously missed women's tour and i'm thinking amount of under bragging on any semblance of seafood vague and they were all altitude training for the the general and it seems this is the women's cycling going very much the way of of men cycling where am the training is is as important as the racing and you know there are writers who will take big chunks of the season i racing in order to train what do you think the trend in the importance of having lose blogs evolved into training before you're a big targets and yeah i mean i think there are various ways in which you can kind of go about it i'm in indiana of course i definitely believe that it important to have sort of big training blocks and i also believe in altitude 'cause it is something that i definitely am you know incorporate into into my training 'em so just kind of depends how you plan your yet a brady so you know in my case i suppose like last year for example i didn't read the woman's torah and i did similar to what the likes of enemy can an absolute in demand have done this year i did a big block of of training in june and went to the euro very little racing and it worked very well but the cs opposed when the coast was released regarding the woman's to it was kind of a good opportunity you know apt i decided to hughes it as part of my preparation for the jira such a huge it as a high intensity block 'em so kind of old depends i do believe that nowadays we do have to be a little bit most connected 'em in our racist because you know gone are the days where you can do every single single will face a just because the racing is that much more demanding nowadays you know the stage of the longer the the dates is so much more dates in in the competition show the racing takes that much more out of you both physically and mentally 'em so it is important to have those periods away from racing way you can focus on training and refresh on your mind and be ready for for the next race so i'm yeah i believe in that but it also kind it depends how you an optical yet but you also see for example the tour de france right is which used the dolphin as pre race united to get things ready for the two at times he the woman's trick could be used in that way annapolis my attention this yet but then of course it's worth the risk upcoming shrimp canning is totally messed up from his crash at randolph and i n n n mike active as well so that risk that she could have been affected by a crash at lunchtime a phone blitzen almost seem very dominant last year in the material am you've seen the results of the the netherlands time trump championship a pretty convincing win for her there she's almost in great form again she the writer you think the she's the one to be this year again yeah i mean on america's has certainly you know taken a huge step up you know in in the past two years she's definitely one of the best crime is i'm independence on at the moment she's also a line of heavy most dedicated sort of single minded people in terms of you know she puts absolutely everything into into signing a man who works for but yeah i definitely do feel that of course she's going to be the one to what she said i'm defending her title and she's definitely very motivated she's gonna come from high hopes of obviously i'm six at at her national championships i look at sort of mental ten scott being the team and it really has a responsibility to to control and to make the right thing and it's up to them to defend because it's it's day race and just won the toss you i mean couple years you chapter and excellent chapter four big by the jeeter rosa and where it stood i get the sense over the last couple of years the state's this has gone up and it could because the best writers are targeting deception extent there's a feeling you have as well but the prestige of the race has increased a bit over the last couple of years in coverage has increased is well you know i spent when i read the chapter for your book and you know i i rarely had the feeling meaning that the euro is just taking they sort of reputational state just for granted you know because it was the the longest stay address on the woman's canada 'em it automatically got the sort of grand to a state this but they went necessarily putting in the work 'em to kind of match that in terms of exposure an end drawing crowds and and spectators to their base i definitely do feel that there has been attention that there isn't any improvement 'em you know what's regards to the example lost yeah you know they they definitely gave us the same don't plan on finish and the stages were tough and you that's kind of made it's you know grant trip back i do still believe that there's a long way to go in terms of you know the whole package so of course the challenge of the racist day in terms of of well two stages of course the procedures day in terms the writers that are competing for the title but there is still a ways to go in terms of exposure and drawing crowds i mean i feel kind of it's a catch twenty two you know obviously we go to the year we put so much into if you see a lot of gratitude could take five six weeks out of racing to prepare for the year and then you go and you're racist really tough stages and nobody's really watching you know 'em now thankfully we have an our coverage which we also had had lost yeah you know as updates you highlight package off the stage and thanks to box woman and trade for making that have nuts yeah but again if you live you know the whole story of of the race is already being told 'em so yeah they're still a ways to go but this yet another step forward in terms of the year that they have a taco sponsor which they haven't had in in the past years so it's just good to see it there is some change happening from yet yet but of course it is slower than than what what we would really like we we need more live coverage and it's it's just not enough consistency in the beginning of of this yeah it was really amazing the beginning of the year especially with the blonde us catholics did such a fantastic job of of live on facebook screaming you know we had racist like being a i'm doing live streaming coverage of the race and that's great feedback and we had amazing momentum from that you know people were many becoming engaged in in the story of a woman cycling and they were seeing the story of each race you know in the leadoff send sacrifices and the crashes on the drama you know and then you go from that great momentum to no exposure in the audience chaotic week and it's amazing how much that set you back again you know so you just built up this nice man to man greg following and then suddenly becomes hard to find the racing end maybe twenty percent of the audience which is now new or dance that you just managed to kind of engaging the i think you lose them how'd you find the motivation i suppose that as a writer to go out there and i can show you sacrificed a result on paper by doing a really bold new if no one's gonna hit can send me now is supported by science science in school whiteside thank you very much the sciences sport for supporting this podcast femina you can get twenty five percent off all year sciences the sport pro talks sciences sport dot com with the code s i see i see if i see any by they lie i as i as you're driving a car so listeners see roads right now i should let you gotta hand in their hair like she's in her eyes i can listen t they code on the regular podcast like singing mouse established well not as well on lay out my older to play the polish and and other places on the women's tour and i am very hall of fame votive i am but yeah science and sport thanks very much indeed to them for their support their continued support on we heard from assay moving past you i was interested in what she said about the euro and it's it's standing i suppose i am because she did seem quite a couple of years ago she was fed up with twelve got the puck in front of me here she she said you know no longer she wrote the time no longer the i think it was okay for the most prestigious to to serve a us plane pasta every meal millimeter i think it's okay to john writers in costs roberts of for are transfers between stages ltd i think it's okay to sleep in dormitories or dusty old hotels and new race results published no coverage of any kind laughable prize money just force it you see i was at a loss things had surf caused her to fall i love west virginia rosa was teams have happened is they have their game as a race am the stages are more prestigious you know the the you know doing claims his own cullen garvey up on a different food thing but but equally i think well there's there's more coverage of this some tv coverage this year and and there's also i mean there's been tv covers before but his english language em tv coverage coverage this this year and i think also justify the top right in the world are making their focus and really targeting it you know i think a few years ago maybe there is a us adrift towards the women's tour and i on away from the tyranny of whereas i think because of the nature of the race course in particular those draw attract the best writers in the world i think is the coolest as made the biggest differences well because when i look back at some previous additions they all kind of had that 'em i almost had the jury the men's you're just out of this year way is just flat flat plop plop plop plop fly and then the law three stages then you'd have some bumps in lumps and you know the the result be made than but looking at this is cool she conceded that i mean as to sum it finishes stage five states nine and there's also on the stage is kind of a heel toe finished again this time draw this team tundra so it's a little more 'em varied it's a lot more exciting from the stall there'll be so many more by going there'll be a dc by home they'll be going there'll be the stage a by so they'll be the jerseys bustles 'em it's a little more going on right from me off the net as it used to be and we can never underplay they importance of the broadcast coverage of allergy said richard because coming as it dole's unfortunate calendar clashed with the to the front swin rarely all lies that could be focused on cycling are on the trade front and that's not just cycling finds that said wider sporting he tune into cycling once a year and he's a radar sort of sweeps across the sport once again not just the to the front you need to be able to watch and i'm speaking very selfish lay employment english speaking point if you you need to be able to walk through highlights at the end of the day when you finish the trade front speaking top of what's happened during the day on track clearly need to be applauded for putting their money where their ambitions are and on funding the daily highlights program for this year well i would say on that though is that it was an hour was highlights lost you so they were they were they doing is not she creating more coverage or is is that taking that same coverage and having in english a voice on it but it is being done as eight life highlights program so it's not just paying packaged up and they put around him time rebecca charleston will be presenting those highlights live streaming or whatever and that will be going i live and we know the production and values of alive presented program tend to be a lot higher than they would be if you were just putting out the highlights or you chip for example so they have they have put money into that at least on and i think i'm hoping don't make a big difference i'm hoping that make a difference to me even in terms of a winner out the to the front sinking knocking catch up on that because otherwise you're trying to just catch up on social media or or news articles and it just doesn't pitch three of consciousness in quite the same way and we're the ones who are highly interested in it and if if we could see a difference this year i think i'll be encouraging first year i'm going forward to in a to watching it and and and as you say earlier when when you're just you don't keep up with the results it doesn't have anything it doesn't so ken telling light the same extent it's just you know words on a on a on a screen and i'm really understand what happened in the race you need to be able to watch it and so looking forward to that i should say is well we're hoping to bring patrick coverage of it in our own way we've got lizzy banks am who is a joint winner of pedal is the sharman women's to it wasn't shape at lizzy by self big law it's gonna be keeping an audio diary for us the jeeter rose i think well judging by her and she's women's tour am there'll be really good because she's very lively she's still quite mutes cycling am i the chat with her the other day she's writing they national road race and you know just spoke about the difficulty writing as a single writer and without any teammates when you had the barn sisters you able to take turns to follow moves and so on and i you know the tactical site of something she's probably still learning but but really understands and i think she'll be writing with cecilia vega zeros on i think hopefully will offer great insight into higher race and the wider races well so that will be available to friends of the podcast am some time off the rosa will also play an extra in the next a monthly episode of cycling podcast femina solis night for that and before we go this month ever gonna hear from me internationals now they're being supported by skoda skoda m who are also supporting us of course at to ride v sort of france they had all of the man's through the front so at i met a couple of them recently louise gibson and having sharp really interesting stories they both have they got into cycling what they do not on his personal challenge but there is a politically i mentioned as well to an increasing numbers of women of groups of women writing the tour de france to show that they can't physically do the the the distance that's not an argument for not having a women's two fronts am but you know i think primarily for them as a personal challenge and about an incredible experience i have to say they'll always have a much tougher than the men because not only they're writing in a much smaller group about the logistics logistics have somehow but after manageable that the them themselves and at you know cook dinner and lucas themselves in that respect so a really difficult three weeks ahead i met recently in richmond park helen sharpen louise gibson you're there are no you think so i think seminars brought to you by dedicating the gender gap inside claims one one place at the time it's all time room some louise gibson cycling probably about five years ago i used to run out not very good run run on the merits and stuff like that but just catching injured and same upside to stop running and have surgery on my head has been saturated with mark signed somehow she recommended by never on again don't take up cycling so i did reluctantly 'em i wasn't very good kind of you know going out on a bike strong keeps it and then did a couple of small teams and just seems beekeeping withhold taxes good writers and just start talking but most serious late at so helen chump similar to the way eased out she was a runner before it's not catch so she took out a spinning into signing increasingly spend most of my evening morning 'em indoors looking i instruct them on a wall and ashley drew a guy the i mac spinning conifers like why don't you just buy biking 'em even actually someone on robin just headline away furiously so i'm i've been linked to misguided effort a couple of years now to ride london would that mean chat and it was through that social media in austin about french team facing the right here doing it they opened up the guy shouldn't to see and lost a button wanted to keep bad team effort french and there's a done the international opportunity for a bunch of us get together and create all right and saying which is weekdays starting at ten of us got together to create something to ride with a friend and go on i'm not how it came about regulate the win twenty three by the french team and cannabis 'em but each day there's no virginia team saw the joy on center stage is insensitive riding the everybody's like yeah we're gonna be on there's lots of comments about my allies in the wheels and say hey you account on the front tonight well there's any kind of a say so much that everyone could be that starting at eight thirty every morning off tonight involves driving to where we gotta dot com on over the we can kind of told the arena good table finished by six pm on a bad day we might still be out on the road at ten p m m a win tell funding what we're doing 'em on looking all draw tells say then mean coming home cooking dinner having a shower trauma stretch you know i think way to pay health care five hours we've got these folks in the restroom himself about i think we sat on why we're having because profiles which i think will start to shift in salt shower the red sox are all crew's coming without on that come across so that tells us dry the hulk off and on slowing you guys a mechanic so we had you know cooking predominantly who don't even know it all by money dot com just go through everything all about even more don't miss out providing how hard you're gonna get somebody are they gonna have five or six hours each day wednesday october ten hours logging which is just it's not just i think we leave welby on pre breathing women could be things that's my thing you know even kind of movement started out that way in the quick you know just brushed or not doing it because we wanna make a difference in the world doing it kind of challenge of thousands of actually but will say the perception of old buddy good boundaries the other people down if you told me you know i got a two year old and i did have my case about two year old niece out of atlanta kinda like she wanted to be a professional side it's when she told them he should have gotten an opportunity to say yeah i've seen it will make a joke like doing far other women who make festival so i think from my friend i would never charge or even
121: The Cycling Podcast Fminin | August 2019
"You're listening to the cycling podcast femina an association with rather the fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with character ride and watch with rougher in one thousand nine hundred state partner e._s. education. I am canyon shrimp <music>. You're listening to the cycling podcast feminine brought to you by skoda uh-huh dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling one race one cyclist at a time. This is our time. Hello my name's richard moore. I'm with rose manley. Hello there. I know i was just <hes> enjoying an evening podcast for once. I was enjoying a join a little bit of beer by mistake slightly on shitting we hello oh yes welcome to the podcast. This is a bit worrying slash exciting. Yeah we lost convened we three in neom <hes> the during the tour de france and a few days after the course and we spoke a law by that race and we have some issues from there and you'll hear that later in in this podcast but there's been racing since then so we thought we gather again and introduced the episode and here orleans news roundup. What else have we got in this certain extracts from taylor wiles and lizzy biases giro rosa diaries. They were released for friends of the podcast while it's one one episode weaving their two diaries together really agree list unless he won a stage of gio rosa so you can hear what that was like from insight from her in episode sorta released for friends of the podcast but you'll hear an extract in in this episode and we'll also hear as mentioned a few interviews and we'll hear from the internationales smells who completed their two fronts as well in front orla. Have you gone up for us. Please date and this is going to be a free style jazz house. Mash up is that right and yesterday we last shouted at the women's chair so since then we've had the j. rosset we've had luck horse and the prudential ride london classic so gerusa first of all one by omic van bulletin for the second year in a row she won by three minutes forty five over on vanderberg and so i always stumble over that because i feel like i should be saying nebraska but anyway remain with the team eh amanda spratt in third religion how the leader's jersey from the end of stage five so she wore it for five stages he also took two stage wins the summit summit finish on stage five and the individual time trials for quite a comprehensive when from her but aside from von flitted mariana voss had an outstanding rishi yeah she took four stages and all including a remarkable victory in stage three that managed to pierce through even the two fronts hype and it all the cycling world aflutter on twitter didn't net if you haven't seen yet voice coming up from behind a rather unfortunate lucy kennedy of mitchelson scott the final few meters opposite climb kennedy radio ready hotter arm in the air celebrating then go and google at ni- pause us so be here when he got back actually even if you have already seen it pause us this anyway. Go watch them do come back. It is amazing coming on sure new. I'm wetting their up tight. Hang on there. You go there back told you it was worth it. Amazing <hes> anyway stage wins as well for the italian seats you bore bore gezi of aroma talia via no first win of the season for them a first professional win for the twenty year old italian lizzy banks with i prove win of her career as well although arguably arguably only her second biggest win. Can you tell me what the biggest career is. Being pergola sharma the women's tour trayvon exactly on stage as as well for unavo- nebraska paciencia duma hard held the race lead from the opening team time trial which is won by kenyan trump until stage five and when blatant ticket and didn't let edit go navy duma finishing in fifth in the which was her joint best finish of her career matching her fifth-place finish of two thousand fifteen onto low-cost and marianna voyles else continued her superb form took at the top of the final climb from amanda spratt who had looked like she could. Maybe just hold on after going on a solo attack. Leah lia kertzman of teams son webb finished in second with sesame attributed vic and third for big on unimak run bulletin. Here's one this event for the last two years settling for seven after your sprouts field atop on then the prudential ride london classic one bil- arena feebis of parkwood valkenburg continuing a fantastic season and remarkably keble first world women's walter win for her at least about some of all car silence was second with coroner veira of sun web in third nine. The prudential wide london classic was overshadowed quite dramatically by a crash in the finale kirsten willed actually crossed the line first but the defending champion and was disqualified for cutting across deviating from her sprint line her back way was clipped by louis hosking which led to an horrific looking crash elinor barker barker broke her collarbone in that crash and will actually thought she'd won the race. She gave a winner's interview and everything before being told that she had to be stripped of her victory and it was given to her compatriot hit instead and that was a subject that sparked an awful lot of debate on twitter of course i mean it was quite a dramatic when you see from overhead shot in particular. It was quite a dramatic deviation. She's swerve from the left over to the right and then it was a swerve back to the last again and caused the crash who it looked quite dare. I say rats less. We were just talking before we press record. I didn't think any of these things are ever really maliciously intended but it did look quite thoughtless. I guess more than anything i think also when you've got someone of khloe hoskins caliber going down then that's also a sign that it was out of carry you know kind of out of character for sprint like they're i mean they're kind of racing incidents bert. I think we know that khloe hoskin would be able to read a race is able take the best lines is able for most of the time to keep us out of trouble and so. I think that is also matters. What the caliber of writer is that goes down but i think that is a good sign that customers would have come off her line quite severely i think <hes> she did you made the point as well ruse by l._a. Veon any other jiro being disqualified for moving from his line a not causing a crash. I'm not sure if that should come into equation or not because you know writers can get lucky on this occasion. It might be bad so many writers were stacked so closely behind an an and we're caught up and that's not that's not cursing veal's fault i am it has to be judged on how radical dramatic the deviation as unclearly in this case the judge is it was it was dangerous but i don't i think <hes> doing anybody suggesting that saito to to cause harm to be dangerous. She was just looking for clear road and trying to win and looking ahead of her. I think think even if if if the crash hadn't gotten behind her though just to pick up on what you said richard i think it was a dangerous move. Regardless really and i think it would have merited disqualification regardless regardless of whether or not anyone come behind her. Eleanor barker's coming through quadra. She broke her collarbone and she she sort of came to veal's defense against criticism schism which you know the refined well in her. I thought am you know. I think that it can be dangerous to judge it entirely from t._v. Cameras angles and so on and it only if you're in that you know really what's going on so i would defer to the writers i guess and <hes> they they kind of know what's going on. I do think carson deal has a reputation. There's a dangerous sprinter so yeah unfortunate incident. What do we think of the right london classic because it's a criterium yet et is i've never really been a fan of it and it's one of those ways that we think that you know as london my hometown the i'd be really passionate for this race coming coming into the complete really into the center of london and obviously it's a huge event the following day in the men's race but to me. It's crit and i think they even show onto this year so it was a need. Each lap was like three point two k. I mean that's that's really getting into yeah. It's completely only criterion. Territory is one of those races where you don't feel like you need to watch the whole race to see what happens. I mean you you kinda. You need to see the last kilometer auditor most the time to see what happened in it. I think we go post the p._r. For having the same prize money as a man in that shields them a little bit from criticism of the actual race. I think it gets a lot of positive side of cycling for that and gets a lot of people applauding it and saying how great it is that we have a women's is reassigned as calibers as a man's wrist but in terms of caliber of racing. I don't think it's ever while net that gets me excited. I find it curious that it. There's a woman's world tour race. I mean obviously it's because it fulfills these set criteria but i find it a sort of a necessary sprinters reasserting thing sprinters need their own races. They're never necessarily the most exciting to watch dramatic finishes yes but as you say rose not one that you would sit glued. Hey you two are feeling like you need to be glued to in case. You're gonna miss any of the action. You can quite safely. What's the last lap or so and respite on highlights. I fail to dine on at-bat yet doesn't get my juices flowing on the other side of the continent. Almost in the most beautiful city in the world was a new race happening on the same day am <hes> san sebastian the first edition of the female racer one baluchi kennedy and that that was good that was on t._v. As well and you know coverage was good and it looks it's great and it's a fantastic race amazing support the boss country for bike racing it like at the women's first edition. The women's race was a great success and whoa should just go back to the reid lund. We should remember that. It's not going to be a women's world tour race calendar class in anything yeah but you were you won't have that status so we'll have to wait and see what kind of riders will turn up next year for that but i mean san sebastian that was a fabulous race and it's so nice felici kennedy also to get finally a victory when she was so horribly denied when our be denied checking for for for celebrating twenty second or twenty three second gap janika things so i think she was saved for that is that to me is a fabulous addition to the women's calendar and you could tell by the strength of mitchelson scott they had georgia williams they had found flute and the they had amanda sprite ed lucy kennedy there the fact that mitchelson scott given nova teams giving it so much respect by sending really strong team to oversee shows that that is eraser the women's peleton wants to support and the other races you know sir. I wondered why you kept on looking over. Your shoulder started talking about sebastian on on my zone. Well no all i was gonna mention. Were there were couple of special wasn't racist. We these these are women's well tool races. These are point one or point two races but i just wanted to point out about ashley movement getting a win <hes> <hes> in the best country at the oh my god enough -nough bus pharaoh of terrible just superior drinking is the name of it but a basque classic races. She won one which and lose candidates came second because i mean she lucy really writes very well. In the basque country has already one. This is like the say she had two wins in the best country this year which is crazy but you actually more than one and that is the last time she won anything outside. South african champs was made when he eighteen and the last time she want anything outside of south african champs and under morbihan races was may twenty seventeen so i'm sure that will have given her a massive boost especially as i don't know whether you guys saw the psych news news blog that she wrote about how jurors performances really affected by getting her period early and having stomach issues and really really interesting raider recommend people read it just partly to hear <hes> a woman speaking honestly and openly about how period affect their performances on the bike but she was talking about her fighting spirit when she wrote that blog a few days before she won this race so i thought worth pointing out hats off to her a community not around the world stories and films with the most compelling characters the world's finest departmental explore the world of cycling with rafeh. Thank you very much indeed to rafah are headline sponsor rafeh of course <hes> been following ef education first threat the year with their films e f gone racing <hes> you can watch them roc- or the channel on youtube i recommend the recent one with lachlan morton very good indeed on lots from the tour de france as well of course we're convening convening where melting here and name and where <hes> speaking a few days after lacoste by the tour de france well we all got together in the poll a few days ago didn't wait for lockers to skip off before the the finish but what were your thoughts on the race won by minor voss again and well. It was a very exciting race. We both thought lose. It was absolutely. I was shocked that it was so good because i felt we were spoiled alabama last two years in particular when we wind up the call these awas that was so at felt quite epic. That's an omic luton's dominance in the top of that climb notwithstanding it was amazing and last year we had a thrilling sprint to the to the finish given that it was is another summit finish and i was a bit worried this here just wouldn't hold up in comparison at all my life. It was just brilliant. I mean we were all gathered in the eurosport truck doc screaming at the television. Marianna voss came about final climb. It was just be to follow the pyre that she would. I mean it was tragic as well for mantis brought bought. I think we all pretty much expected at sprout would be caught at one stage. You thought okay maybe if if she could hold this to the line it would be brilliant nothing against him and i'm delighted for the finale finale that it was on the platform that as dot mariana voice not just one it but the way that she wanted on the delight that she showed crossing the line and we've said this before that someone one who is often compared to eddie marks given extended preposterous is still so desperate and hungry for a win the way she was punching the air huge smart interface it meant so much that is just brilliant for the race. I loved it. I also saw a little clip online of anton vaas watching into dc that he hank oh sorry yeah hankered brother antonio probably watching and he was just e- conceived absolutely thrilled and it's is just amazing the as you said she can have so many wins and still be so family can be still so thrilled for just proves the she's back to our best. I mean a few years. This guy think about how much people wrote her off. She had richard. I seem to remember ooh clipper rich no but it was it was it was a great race and i think there was all positively in the paddock after wasn't among the writers who allowed to good crowds crowds <hes> great support nice atmosphere on a really great course really sporting testing but not to testing course we covered in on episode of two zero. We're here some more reaction from after the race. We both spokespeople rose well. Let's hear i listen the brand because we neglected to mention leah kirkman who was was second on the very good performance from her and her team because loosened brand was up there as well. Here's what she told rules finish. Can you tell us the <hes> ray swapped out for you. Yeah oh i didn't had to g._o. Expert <hes> a fellow tehran's was not the only one you it. It definitely was tough. Especially <hes> was it. The second loss limpet <hes> pays in this small break actually with all the writers out of this. I joined the break fits. Commoner almost catch back. She continued it had a lot of writers from our team in the group and renew finish leah even though we also knew of course in my home would be a big favorite on the bench like this the i think we did a good we can be satisfied with this and did you think that group empathize with sicily and we did you think that mytalk of sticking if everybody really should go food who then we'll be like two percent chance because like boo boos go in and i still have quite a love rise in the group to chase so you go in maybe so yeah no it never really difficult lucinda brand of sun sorry. I don't think i got pronunciation quite right. Deny well. It's rough. Haji keeps pronouncing it. Definitely ideology just say brown but he always has been the brunt but don't okay thanks for that <hes> we <hes> also <hes> you also spoke to lizzy direst. I'm who having are a gray season isn't she would have really good women's tour. She wrote a fantastic zeros. <hes> i'm not team is impressive the way they've been great to them. The sum of their parts aren't they. They always seem to write as a team and have a great leader in cecilia ludvig as while he was third on the day but here's what lebron had say the finish a light to the u._c._l._a. Sesame third today just awesome you know in some ways we had tyson jared some ways disappointing juror. I'm sort don't come back by like reading today. I am so proud of the team her smoltine we right so flipping hearts day. Hey listen nikola in the break at least jersey fighting fighting fighting to stay in front to help as much as we could and <hes> ah y'all facilitator top often take todd and and strong failed is cool and you guys always in the break. I mean those of us in the early brake says legal inside so strong yeah yeah and <hes> job being because she could just sit there and try not to try to save as much as possible but if it stayed away both touch chase and personal the position and then we won't have behind what was happening and yeah it was perfect and now the thing that a man described was going to stay away slipping. Ah i was dropped on the light near the talk of the i live on the last lap once brought to you gone <hes> talking here what what's happening in the radio and it's i guess it's just <hes> yeah. I'd say it's a game. It's a waiting game and on <hes> patient and yeah you have to play across sometimes and you might wait pay often sometimes sometimes as and you just have to take your trump says to sometimes. I'm hope you're gonna get holiday now golden fast-break since january so i've been racing since february maybe a two day right and sunny sheffield eldest bacteria preparation towards wells. I'm another interview from after the race actually moment paseo african on c._c._c. of course her teammate <music> <hes> might have also won the race and i mentioned globe writing very effective as a team and actually it was a day when we saw a lot of interesting an effective tiv- team tactics with amanda spratt off the front <hes> with you know van booth and lurking behind bulls dome also chase stein a very dangerous five writer move at one point point very effectively although they weren't there in the end on c._c._c. brought back commander sprung for the finale to second voss that was impressive to and here's why xi mu impassive acid who had featured in that five right break earlier on had to say at the finish actually <hes> team over said a lot of confidence in mary on there that a lot of work to bring him on the spot by but was there a moment where you thought maybe she she was away. I'm we were pretty confident. <hes> she would come back. I mean she put in big but i was with who in the breakaway and i knew they was too many teams that went in at united sanwip head a lot of riders booze and so am i think we played the game perfectly we keep things cool and common when we were doing ham how directa urine was also really good on the radio keeping us calm and as i said was very much technically planned to keep her just just in front until this very loss little kick before the because of course if we brought him back to quickly then they'll just be more attacks. Sir yeah just worked out actually typically hickey. What's it like to ride for a leader who's in such incredible form and clearly so comfort herself. Yeah i mean it's pretty incredible with mariana and finishes like this where it's technical and hot ham. She must be the world's best finish on on this type of finish so it's really great to see how she she puts him into it and she executes perfectly. If there's a lot to learn from her and she's an incredible athlete seemed a well balanced course. We saw very open race and you know we saw under bragan. Go on me if i'm blitz and mark a couple of moves as well but it wasn't a course that you know allied one team or one writer to dominate seem by open. Were you a fan of it. I think it was really a great race today. I can't calm the best course of course you know <hes> a climbing a mountain top finishes also pretty amazing but this kind of course i think was a real show for the people you know as i said they all out on the course waiting all day for the man to compostion. I think this just adds to the entertainment today. They got a pretty good show from us this morning. It was great for us because we had all the people out they really into it shouting out their shirt or shirt that i saw i think broadcast team kart at the back of the tax lease voice of sin p._k. 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Have any plans wants to put on an equivalent event for women well this year on the day of course there was actually some news on this front. A story appeared by the reuters journalist. Julian plato aso's apparent plans to organize a woman stage whereas one morning at the front richard spoke to julia about his story and asked whether he had any more details else some fashionable and tell me what you understand. This is here's or planning i plan is they're. They're setting up <hes> like a cell to develop women's cycling within a so <hes> that should be operational <hes> like somewhere around september and there. I did a big i._d.'s to creates yeah eat a race. That would be to women's cycling. What the tudor franz is two men cycling the major events. Do you have an idea and when i mean what would be in terms of when it would be held on. I might be launched but they don't have details yet when <hes> in terms of of canada what is sure. It's not going to be <hes> at the same time demands tour to france. That's for sure because it's a logistical nightmare. <hes> what was possible in the eighties is not possible anymore. Because of <hes> you know the tourist grown so big <hes> with like twenty nine thousand police officers every every day you know working on its organizers. Don't have the resources and the government. The state wouldn't have the resources to secure such an event. Do you think it would be called the tour de france. I don't know i don't know it's interesting though because on when i spoke to earlier this year in have anybody employed to look women's women's racing as a whole so this new development it is it is i think every everyone's you know look on the women's sports wants in general has dramatically changed <hes> so i think everyone studying from fever football aso recycling you know the kind of have to they have to go into it and i mean we all know yeah so you know it's very often you know about money and there's a lot of money to be made so i think it's clear i mean for them. It's <hes> it's an easy decision to get into this. One person who i saw a look at gerry ryan who is the owner and benefactor finding the mitchelson scott team and that's one of the few teams that always had as a women's team with exactly the same <hes> you know sort of names name sponsors they don't share support staff and the seems to be a lot of integration between those two teams has been as a team from bulletin of course i so i grabbed the award was jerry. Ryan who is also the sponsor of the team as well as the finish like almost gonna be two wins and twenty four hours a up with was <hes> and i pretty at the base was <hes> the plane to try and get a win tonight and watch the planes where camp it <hes> t- what what a fantastic last week <hes> roy bar and gutsy and <hes> i i just caught her in the end as i do <hes> side i think the older all the girls could <hes> holiday heads <hes> very hard time be proud of <hes> the team and <hes> what the newly pulled off. I know you brought some of your best wayne celebrate last night some of over for tonight in case of a win here <hes> hadid <hes> in fact that <hes> unfortunately the older girls hit the enter to japan and now the places <hes> <hes> so. I've said i've got a senate. <hes> unfortunately won't be <hes> within drink at a another rice and another victory only about how the the women's team is integrated into the seeing here today and there's obviously <hes> you know it's more than just an add on isn't it seems to be a real part of the whole team. Will it's never been an add on from day one <hes> when <hes> washburn to shine sitting up the men's women's team as well and <hes> <hes> what simon quickness i'm <hes> facilities and also the same assistance from catching danta doctors it does to <hes> physios and so when you have the world's number one writer enemy. I'm bulletin. You know winning the rosa. I guess that's a cause for celebration racing for you. As simon swinging the welte what is <hes> you know and she's number one in the world <hes> and to go back to back with jiro uh-huh <hes> once again just so so her talent <hes> and also the support of the team and i think she got great. Tell you might say and <hes> it's it's fantastic. It'll come to get your team is one of few words teams the women's team as well what what what could be done to help develop the sport women's for a bit more while i think the number one <hes> i gotta have more events <hes> be nice to see this <hes> extended <hes> because you know you competition <hes> <hes> <hes> i the opportunity for <hes> the talent that come through and get the opportunity to rice <hes> that's and <hes> certainly the support of other teams to list up with the women's team. You're listening to the circling podcast feminine brought to you by skoda oughta dedicated to closing the gender gap cycling race one cyclist at a time. This is our time. Thank you very much to school for their support of the cycling podcast femina for the second year in a rural. We're very grateful to them and we'll be hearing from internationales in the final. They have been writing the <unk> frantz day. Ahead of the main group of british women will be here for bentley thrown but thank you skoda and neither geeta rosa happened. The stop of the month didn't <hes> <hes>. I know you glued to the the nightly coverage reuss. I was trying to catch up with it. I have to say some points. Because you know you work so late at the toward then he turned it on and you fall asleep and watch what again the next day but yeah i was glad to have the opportunity to watch <hes> there was a few options to watching watching it actually this year which is <hes> which is a i normally only been one way torture and provided some absolutely amazing racing. I mean who can forget that. I mean my heart absolutely bleeds lucy kennedy on that stage three finish should marianne vos coming up behind by phil. That's really captured the imagination of people and really spread out and people who might not have been aware of the giro's before will have seen that finish into a may not aggressive racing mon break and then there was another like false celebration the very next day which you just think oh god but yeah amazing i mean i am flem absolute prime form me we could tell the enemy was in absolutely <hes> peak condition and had been completely targeting this race and so it proved i mean all those those rica although the rican on the gavitt the oversleep wooten of particularly help text changed but <hes> you know there's <hes> i'm an incredible performance from her. I was actually impressed with cash navy domino. I know she kind of slipped down the rankings towards the end of the pink jersey the beginning but i thought the way that kenyans from rhode was kind of serve similar to how mission scott was writing a couple of years ago where they were kind of just learning how to be a team with the leader's jersey and how to protect and how to ride together in order to protect that one leader so i thought even if cashier i think has said that she might be a bit disappointed with how ended up i think thinker she should be really proud about how she and the team <hes> learned through that experience and i think that that's very promising for the future i think we have to ask as well have mitchelson scott scott become the new bulls doormats given the way that they wrote that race they finished first and third on dc with amanda spry in third the way they took on the opening time trial l. as well. It was an uphill time trial and if you so on social after that progress brine a is the australian time trial champion but a much flatter torri and then then they hudson join stage one of the jair rosa but she ended up with sek on her bike because she duck-soo deep but not just shows the level of commitment. They knew they weren't going to win. Richards faces a picture right nine. They knew they weren't gonna win. Not opening time-trial it went to canyon schramm but they knew they were trying to limit their losses on that as much as possible and they delivered on a make to just the right position when she needed to be eh to finish in third with amanda spratt as well. I think that as a team effort was just phenomenal really stroll bottoming from houston is on a different level she she was last year or two and you know what you hear. From other writers is just admiration uh-huh. She dedicates herself to her sport. Obviously gets the support for team as well well to take chunks of time away from racing and unprepared it must be quite hard being out of under reagan the world champion who has been in the shade a little bit of if i'm listen <hes> and husband this year so far looked like down bragan of older than of under bragan who won the world championship membership in the in the in the style that she did it innsbruck yeah. She's taken a different tactic. This year. I mean she was out doing <hes> the k. pick of the beginning of the year missing some of the classics do that so it kind of mountain biking <hes> stuff but i mean she's i mean she's still phenomenal. I think i think it's only when i think we got to a stage. A couple years ago moved to every time i ended up under bragan lined up expecting just to watch <hes> do some solo attack <hes> and then go off and win on her own all the time and and i think we're seeing a develop into a bit of a different rider. I mean there's so many other writers as well. I mean i think we get a bit <hes> to focus on those two riders all the time when there's actually some amazing i think sarah paladin did had an amazing juror rosa and really proved that she is so talented on the trains and and eric magneti from toby in t- <hes> it's great to see some other teams coming to the fore another new riders new champions of future. Yes let's don't forget to bring and did win. Flesh loon again jesus here <hes> we'll let mariana of olsen nana vanderberg off. Let's hear from two writers writing the jerusalem just before we do. I caught up with tiller. Wiles is like course because lizzie banks was a peddlers to sharm last month the women's tour i thought since she kept an audio diary for us <hes> the jerusalem we should present taylor walls with <hes> pedals to sharm t shirt so here's what she said when i give her for her t-shirt lakers yeah. It was a very kind of open race. Was it from your point of view. The course was <hes> up and down. There's a little bit of everything being very classic style of course really similar actually to the finishing circuit world so those pretty exciting as well so you chasing quello was working <hes> towards the end <hes>. I knew it was going to come down to a sprint and always is a bit quicker than me so i was working for her. A sposa tailor-made finish remind mind voss wasn't in the form season yeah. Unfortunately i think everybody kinda played to that except for mitchelson like spreading it a really good job to get away and and make attacks really hard on the second to last lap the last lap everybody kind of just <hes> played into c._c._c. and they chased and then there is a sprint and bosses just unbeatable moment her do you enjoy coming in's confusing into the tour de france is a. I think there was a big crowd. There today seemed like a very atmosphere. Is that something you enjoy a lovely atmosphere. It's always a really fun events <hes> because all the fans are already here. It's great for women's cycling because they see that are racing is super exciting too so maybe one day we'll have more than one day but <hes> i'll take wing winging on congratulations finally on are being are peddlers to sharm for the month and thanks very much for your insights into the jiro so i was telling like course i hear then our experts from her diary from zeros and also lizzy banks talk in sheffield tailed and the train station flying from manchester this morning to milan and it's three days for the start the juror <hes> we're flying in today for some team time trial preparation tamari one rest day and then we start on friday so you really looking forward to it has a fair and trepidation mixed in with excitement and looking forward to something new. We'll see what happens happens mentor meeting on my teammates today but going to be a few weeks so obsolete and on the way to i talal still choose three days before the start art by teammate nicholas clover and whether last to arrive so the team will be complete once we arrived so one thing. I'm really looking forward to you over. The next two weeks is getting some nice italian food. I'm not sure it's not gonna happen because race hotels and torius for just giving us dry rice and dried fried chicken but being in italy. I'm pretty hopeful that we're going to have some delicious pastor and i think that we have a really really strong team this year but a a team that ah maybe my surprise people we think out of the six of us here has done jerry before and it's going to be all in over the next two weeks for the facility and to try and get a podium result and ultimately to try and win the race and it's going to be a really big team effort but i think we'll have surprised people and we're going to go all in your name mccan and so i'm just telling him i rome with lia- <hes> on the end of the final russ stay just jerry tomorrow. We're super excited. There's really get atmosphere in the team. I think we will pretty scott about the t t t tomorrow with the heat and athletes thirty five degrees hair and office three in the afternoon and i know it's the same for everyone of course but yeah it's it's quite a daunting prostate and stuff me extreme conditions but yeah we're really excited. We went to the team presentation this afternoon and ah just to great atmosphere. You know not in this race before i think it's already living up to some of the craziness that we expected in so many respects <music> we just found out that we beat mitchell two in which means that we are definitely on the podium hey hey so we're just waiting for balls to get in and we know we've wearing signed the moment so we know we're going to be at least so yeah pretty exciting here. Yeah hi guys so we're in the car on the way to the secondary tile we've just finished the first stage of the jerry rice and at least you want to tell us what happened and i'll i'll tell you what happens. We go second in the t t we so happy because to be honest. We actually didn't really have a very t._t. We lost one of our climate who didn't want to lose time with nikola really early and you know sometimes this can happen. It was really yeah she she i t t t and shit happens so yeah. We lost down to five. She was one of four riders titus. It was going to go to the finish and we were down to five much earlier than expected and we we had <hes> yeah we had a mechanical in the downhill so i was leading in the downhill but unfortunately michaela taylor dropped her chain and yeah so it was a bit of a nightmare downhill and then afterwards and we ought to impose on the flat and then and then i pulled off on the last time and and then even then it's still really wasn't that smooth poor released was dying at the back and and and last on the front and we finished the t._t. And we were all really upset with how it really didn't go to plan and then time started rolling in all the big teams was still to come when we finished and then yeah people kept going below us and then yeah we it was we were still in second this dylan's second canyon fast then canyon came through they took the first part but it was still itchy and then mitchell turn yeah and then each each team kept coming and then we were still in second them and then the last team balls through and i think they ended up in fifth. Maybe me so yeah we we just couldn't believe it so yeah. We were pretty later. We went from being really upset and thinking maybe this jira it was over before it started to being almost shit. We've got a really good chance and we've got a really strong team. Yeah it's just crazy so so yeah we're really ecstatic layers full of caffeine and look when stopped talking and apparently that's what all the time so <hes> so yeah. I feel sorry for everybody other than that. We're on the waiter hotel three hour transfer. Today we're going up to near turin a saying little agrotourism thumb her house after mountainside <hes> should be pretty pretty nice should be a bit cooler up there too and then we start taught in town called view which i'm sure. I've just completely mangled stop. I'm finished tomorrow so yeah. We're really looking forward to breath not going to get much rest tonight because we're probably not going to get back to the hotel until almost eight o'clock and then yet dinner meeting the the <hes> layer layer so the chances of me. Getting any sleep is pretty slim. <hes> hopefully hopefully she'll come down copied high. There's some point in the next five hours but we'll see some pretty solid anthrax. Okay tomorrow's stage one. Well not miss stage have say we have some struggles goals in form of mechanical so kind of a bummer because think we could have had a really good rags real writing really strong strong and really good as unit but sometimes in bike racing chef happens but we have nine more days and we we got to watch the mountain bike short-track on the way home in the transfer and watch our teammate yolanda kicks mass so that it was a bonus of of the day and even though we're kind of bummed out we are trying to stay positive because we have nine more days which is nine more chances and it's super hard jero so yeah you never know what can happen the last minute today but we could gain him in its merle positive to says the first road erase stage and it started on a fifteen kilometers climb <hes> which was very hard. It was kinda pretty mellow. No real real big attacks or anything <hes> got a little faster over the top because there was a pretty technical descent so all the good dissenters wanted to go down in the front and we all made it down and then we were in this valley for awhile pretty boring in the valley but there were some attacks accent little breakaways and then we came to the final climb which was the initials k. heading but it was more more like a kind of a gradual climb along the river. It's really beautiful not that we noticed <hes> way to tailwind so it was really really fast. Yeah teams were just keeping keeping at vassar where some attacks but everything just kept getting stitch back together and then even those full gas. Hi attacked with a k. to go which not a hundred percent that was hardest move. I guess gave it to go and and then quickly got caught and swallowed up by an extremely fast charging field and then he's a ruth spreading vici- rush marianne of us sprint was pretty freaking fantastic. If you haven't watched a replay you should watch it because she looks like somebody shot her out of the can dan cycling cast feni now is supported by science and sport sciences bolt fueled by science. Thank you sciences sport for their support of this podcast. You can get twenty five percents off. All your sciences sports sports nutrition products sciences sports com with the code s. I s c p twenty five s. I s c twenty five c twenty five super joining as komo had a few too. I don't wanna say complains but people saying that's a real were not spend just rolling around the head day. Listen to lionel saying it was singing in my head is so yeah it's gone. It's gone into my year to do science a._p. Twenty five quite early on never never call uh well listen a group of well quite a few groups of women have been writing the monster fronts route transit they ahead of the men and and we heard from them in the las episode. Let's <hes> let's count shot with him again and having completed that course you're back at work coming ridden the the entire the third of france i mean i don't know how you sum that up in a few minutes but how do you feel yes. It's all a bit surreal to be on house. Feels like i've landed back from another planet on half feels like everything is normal and nothing's reach a inched <hes> the whole experience has just been completely incredible meeting meeting the team for the first time and then writing for those three and a half weeks is just being yeah just an experience on netflix scare at we've become so so close unnaturally dot com is one of the strangest things now <hes> the we saw that you call tom on our own and there were no altogether as as a team so it won't waste fails quite quite lonely numb. Will the in jokes the happen until ooh <hes> most should stay onto offficial but it kind of no one else really gets gets. We've kind of been through <hes> so it's quite a strange range just wanted to start to try and make so the the meter you know live up to expectations or was it to something you couldn't have imagined it's difficult because i think could be honest in the in the run-up to it. Everything just seem to happen so quickly <hes> and i kind of it's one of those things where ah you know every event or challenge that you enter you always think you've got loads of time to prepare when to try and then you suddenly that time just takes away i only found out that i was joining the team with about a hundred days to go and so time just same to complete a with by and then really it sounds we age but it wasn't really that much chance to get all. We'll think about what it was gonna be like. It was just sort of low to notes of to do things that are williams hits gets who <hes> but having now done it and reflecting back i mean it's just a massive physical effort that we've just being true <hes> so we ended up doing very for three thousand four hundred okay and about fifty two thousand meters of climbing which is just insane and we sort of say it and roller off like it's you know a normal thing but not just fit ridiculous physical effort and then mentally. I don't think we could have really prepared for what we were going to go through but we have just sort of take a one day time ready. We're learning tough moments. What was the what was the hardest moment for you get. It's definitely tough off moments on a on a daily basis. I think <hes> i think one thing that everyone mean-spirited found ready. Hall was the amount of sleep or the the northbound took his lips that we were getting <hes> so we will often sort of maximum six hours in bed twitch. <hes> you know a couple of hours. If you're trying to wind down and get your body to relax already in talks a deficit in terms of in terms of your sleep <hes> the impact a has on you when you're feeling pretty rubbish on the by cannot much energy. You feel very emotional. There were lots of tears from the rest of the team <hes> lots of laughs as well sure but just a huge emotions i think some of the challenging times on it was just i mean some of the climbs the elevation steepness climbs staged six launched about no-one savage. Eh anything like that. <hes> an gets kind of to be this big thing in your head the automatic ashim that you can't do and then each day. We were just achieving stuff that we never thought it was even possible. <hes> so there's kind of emotional roller coaster is definitely existed each day. I think we will expected it to be tough. I don't think we necessarily expected to have as much fun as we did. When we were away the team just will jell together really nicely yeah. We have a large g._p. Jokes and <hes> just taking all mind off things <hes> which was which was amazing. I think the team is a highlight probably stage h. Trend <unk> said doubts when we've done our laws mountain stage that was one of the stages that was cut short for the professional man <hes> so we've got to talk of south korean it was passing rain and we re group to bow five hundred meters from the end or from what before the end towards <hes> which is really really wanted to cross the line together as a team and we waited and trying to hide down to bridge as some of the girls didn't have jackets found that being moved on by god. Please send which is really kind of wants to stay together and cost the line. This is a team but when we did it was just incredible. That was our big celebration that was our last day in the mountains and we all just kind of had a massive group hug and cavs radio <unk> today at the end of day helen sharp of the internationales telling us all about her well what sounds like an incredible experience prince writing the root of france during the whole as well unlike unlike the man impressive on his i mean when we think when i think about what the weather was like on that friday not far away that they were finishing the the next stage at that time i mean they're obviously lucky but it wasn't very nice and they went through all forty degrees the south too cold and hailstorms and so on in the so while done to them and it sounds like an incredible experience that they had and <hes> weld held onto skoda as well for supporting them and perhaps making a difference in terms of <hes> the campaign with e._s._o. On a women's race as we discussed co-star earlier finally just before we go a reminder that we're doing a few live events and the author of the first one is the world championships in yorkshire and harrogate royal hole hole on friday september twenty seventh. That's set to be the biggest event we've ever done as a cycling podcast then in november where the grand tour at bristol georgia's hall on monday the eleventh of november carlson david's hall on tuesday the twelfth of november worcester huntington hall on wednesday the thirteenth of november the belfast emmy see on the fifteenth of neurons of friday and the arts theater in london on the eighteenth eighteenth and the twenty fifth of november the lester why theater on thursday the twenty eighth of november and the manchester r._n._c. 'em on saturday the thirtieth member one or two more events to be a nine but you can get tickets to all of those and i think you can imagine the orla chenevey will be at at at least one of them the one in belfast close to her home of course on friday the fifteenth and member a tickets to all of these events can be purchased at the cycling podcasts dot com comb just go to live events on the left hand side of the page click on live events and i'll take you to our live event page anyway am not set for the smooth look forward to next rules all as well as women's tour of scotland brand new race. There's the good races they're always good. There's ladies ladies tour no way this is loads isn't the european chumps as well. Wait to play both ladies chair madrid will be madrid we we will maybe we'll record of the next cycle podcast femina from there kind of really it's only early august not will be early september tambour. I suppose that we might i dunno. We'll we'll cobble something together and we'll certainly be back before the world championships. We're going to have additional episodes over the world. Championships mm says well. I salute coat for that but that's all for this month. Thank you very much rose. Thanks richard. Thanks oh la la thanking <music>. You're listening to the sidelines. Podcast feminine brought to you by skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling race one cyclist at a time. This is our time.
Mac OS Ken: 05.16.2019
"Yeah. This is MAC. OS ken. Skoda's as sort of Damocles a couple of smart speaker stories, and cooking may get skewered again, it's Thursday. The sixteenth of may twenty nineteen I'm Ken Ray. And this is news from Moco west Ken brought to you by yours truly and sponsored by mal wear bites targeting the threats targeting your MAC, visit malware, bytes dot com slash MAC. OS can for your free download and fourteen day trial. This show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriotic. Find out more in that your support that patriot dot com slash MAC. OS can. Yesterday. I brought you notes from three apple following financial firms that said, what the world really needed to do around apple and the Skoda's ruling was chill. That was the supreme court ruling clearing the way for consumers to sue apple over alleged anticompetitive practices in the app store, while one of the note said, there was plenty of time for apple to plot a course around or through the action Morgan Stanley seems to see the time as a bit of an enemy that piece from apple insider, has Morgan Stanley suggesting that the ruling could have far reaching consequences for the rest of the tech industry. Not just apple while acknowledging that there will be no fundamental change. How apple operates the app store, nor is there any impact to Apple's profit and loss. The note says it's highly likely that these eventual lawsuits take years to make their way through the US legal system, thus leaving. A regulatory legal overhang for the stock that I gained momentum when Skoda's heard the case in late twenty eighteen. Worried though not freaking out at last. Check Morgan Stanley had an overweight rating on apple shares at twelve month price target of two hundred twenty dollars. Apple's hand holding with a friend of me continues, macrumors says apple music is now supported by Amazon's Alexa, and Australia and New Zealand that puts Cupertino streamer on echoes and fire TV devices as well as compatible Sonos speakers. You know what's cool about Apple's home pod being streets behind Amazon's echo devices, and Google, whatever Google has, there's lots of room for home pod to grow that is the surprising optimistic? Take of strategy analytics, where home pod is concerned, apple world today has the market tracker saying smart speakers, powered by Amazon, virtual assistant, and those powered by Google will have practically the same market share this year strategy. Analytics expectation is that Amazon share will fall from thirty seven point seven percent last year. Thirty one point seven percent this year. Meanwhile Google shares expected to grow a bet rising from thirty point three percent last year to thirty one point four percent in twenty nineteen for its part home, pod said by the firm to command only six percent of the smart speaker space. That's not just streets behind that practically not on the map, but there is room to grow David Mercer. Strata gentle, six BP and principal analyst is quoted in the piece of saying that the moment there is little sign of smart, speakers replicating, the dual platform structure of the smartphone business, Amazon Alexa, and Google assistant will each build strong, global basis of more than one hundred million smart speaker users, but plenty of room remains for rivals such as apple and the Chinese Internet players, those are said by the piece to include Alibaba's alley genie by do's, Douro s and shall me's show a. Apple and its exacts have been hit with another lawsuit over the company's horrible holiday quarter. Apple insider says the suit centers on Ford looking statements made by apple CEO, Tim cook and CFO Luca mastery on a call held in November of last year. That was the call went up talked about the recently ended September quarter and the well underway, December quarter quoting the report then forecasts presented during a conference. Call last November both cook and mastery touted a strong product lineup expected to fuel fiscal quarter sales between eighty nine billion and ninety three billion dollars riding high on a new slate of iphone ten s and ten are hen sats, which were at the time already up for sale. Apple told investors to intimidate a record-breaking quarter beyond reiterating prepared guidance. The piece continues cook and mastery, emphasized a positive. Outlook and fielding questions from analysts specifically cook dismissed concerns of macro economic uncertainty and emerging markets like China signing up O's very strong performance leading into the holiday season. The executives also failed to recognize the brewing. U S, China trade war, then apple chose to restate guidance than apple shares tanked throw in the effect. Apple's iphone battery replacement program had on iphone sales, plus apple decision to stop reporting unit sales numbers. And at least some shareholders suspect, something fishy the new suit similar to a couple of others accuses the executive artificially inflating apple share price, citing violations of the securities and exchange act blend cider says the complaint, seeks class status unspecified damages and legal fees. Apple made that support obit more supportive earlier this week, macrumors says the company has released version three dot one of the app, adding a new feature that's designed to let users chat with an expert through the messages app. It's only in the US for now and it only cover certain topics, but it's a start. Additionally, the update is said to bring an improved experience for scheduling reservations at the genius bar and authorized service providers. It also includes unspecified bug fixes and performance improvements. The apple support app is free version. Three dot one is available now in the app store. More news in a moment, but I word from malware, bytes targeting the threats targeting your MAC. There are people out there who run no security software. If you're one of them, don't be. You put on a seat belt. When you go for a ride, you put on sunscreen, when you go to the beach. They're just smart things to do to stay safe. So is running good security software. Like malware bytes, Melwert bites detects and removes viruses, adware, and other malware automatically, so you're protected without even having to think about it. Maybe you'll be lucky and never get any sort of malware. But maybe it won't be so lucky, and you don't want to rely on luck anyway. 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As for those visiting the iconic location. The app provides a location based audio tour for those elsewhere provides a way of checking out in a our recreation of lady liberty from the comfort of their couch. The peace explain. Some of the apps workings saying the app uses a kit degree, the three D representation of the statue. The statue of liberty model has more than sixteen million polygons users can also skip through the years to see changes in the oxidisation on the statues, copper place, the model in front of you pensions zoom into scale and marvel at it size, the apps description notes, while a view of the statue is great. The view from the statue was historic, as well the peace as the app offers a historic time, lapse one hundred eighty degree experience, letting users watch Manhattan. Skyline evolve over the past two hundred years from the viewpoint of lady Liberty's crown. The statue of liberty app is free. It's available now in the app store. 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176: The Cycling Podcast Fminin | November 2019
"You're listening to the cycling PODCAST. Femina an association with rather the fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with character Ryden. I didn't watch with rougher in twenty nineteen stay partner. Es Education I and Canyon Shrimp Um Hum. You're listening to the cycling PODCAST FEMININE BROUGHT TO YOU by Skoda uh-huh dedicated to closing the gender gap cycling one race one cyclist at a time. This is our time. Well Rose Manley analyst. Shouldn't we have we managed to pressure recorders on has been a challenge on just as I am not responsible for the record here in London so that will be your fault if anything Richard. Wow really inauspicious. Start to November's cycle. PODCAST has feminine money and straight should Moore. I'm with rose. Manley all Shinui hello in the Amsterdam Studio yes. Saddam calling with points of the jury are we all keeping well good at least very Amsterdam ish sitting behind you. They're exposed would be wooden beams that it looks like a very kind of Amsterdam apartment. I ll evidence. Yeah totally I just go to the yield the museum everytime we record this and pretend that it's where I live but yeah it's very. It's very typical. Isn't that look with the slanty floors as you. Well know as you both know you're paying for a visit. We harm looking out on some pumpkins riches chance pumpkins. Yeah Yeah did he realized just having been Prepared yet for for soup or roosting. Oh so yeah so good anyway that well it's been awhile since we all got together and we of course was the the last time we all got together. It wasn't it thus correct. Yes because one after that was from the Madrid and then joined up with rules for the world championships options and harrogate crazy. It's been a while I'm on what's has happened but it is the off season of course and what we got coming up in this month episode. Dude you're GONNA ask me both of your expectant. Eager is a glaring behind the screen at one of the guard. We've got my news roundup which is fairly comprehensive. And that's all you need to know so you can switch off after that but lots of banter to come following. We'll be jousting invited to show me. The Olympic quota decision which has caused a bit of a fuss will be. I don't tailby looking back on balls. Dobermans we'll be looking at. What has made them such as such a successful team as they hope to move into a new era with a new title title sponsor as yet to be fine however what else are we going to try to go onto triplet vague who you spoke to the ruler Classic and Very entertaining event. I think that's on Youtube her so that you can go and watch. That was that was one of the highlights of ruler class. It was it was a really great few days. Wasn't it yeah. It was brilliant. We were spoiled for interviews and guests there this year and sesame was just brilliant and what Amis by really is that every time people see it for the first time they fall in love with their you know she has this presence or on this energy that is so infectious Shis that she's just brilliant for the sport you know when we want to clip at the very beginning which was from the Flanders when she gave that interview. Put the hammer down. How much time I watched that? I can't help but smile and get a little bit teary actually quite voice. I just think it's a beautiful celebration of sport and she's fantastic for that. So yeah catching up with her. We'll hear from her late throwing she's moving teams of course and but first of all news roundup. Please look okay and soundbite for corrections corner because it does feel like has been quite was probably messed alluded things so keep. Your ears appeals guys. I'M RIGHT IN SAYING AREN'T I. We've only had one woman's world series area since our last podcast from the words right the quench e one by Chloe hosking racing for Ali Cipollini for the last time before moving to Raleigh NC next Cheer Mariana Voss finished in third which was enough for her to win the women's World Tier Classification. She overtook her fellow. Dutchman Automatic Fund fluids in in the last week of the year with with the Dutch one-two-three Lorena Vivas finished in third. Incidentally Beavis sell only twenty of course finished top of the individual writer ranking which is based in all races. She says she is now rumored to be looking at a team. Change in a way out of her contract with Park Hotel Valkenburg who've done a fantastic job of punching above their wit of late and she's supposed I mean the final year of a three year contract next year but after fifteen wins this season including it from the women's world here and the duck national title she understood to be the Tempted at least by three top teams for next year track. CCC and Sun Web. I welcome to other transfers. As far as crashes corridor it goes Diaz to just chip in with corrections and save them all up for the end. If I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure Loretta Vivas under contract to end the two thousand twenty one. Yeah well. She signed a written hits signed free movement currency scoring twenty seventeen. She site signed a three year contract before the two thousand eighteen season so between eighteen and twenty nine thousand nine hundred twenty twenty. I mean so you are wrong so a correction corrections former. They're really nice and early anyway. Yeah we have had news. As referred to at the top of the episode of the rider quotas for the Tokyo Olympics next year the UCI have decided you to stick with gender inequality. Because you know why break whilst wife fix what's broken I. Anyway yeah their gender inequality a tooled process when it comes to rider spots for the road race. One hundred thirty spells will be available for the man and just a fraction over half of that for the woman. Sixty seven so sightless alliances among those speaking and asking for gender equality for future Olympics embeds. We'll be talking about that. Maybe in just a moment over energy have announced they will no longer be sponsoring. The woman's to they've pulled out of there yet. Britain as well. The organizers sweet spot are we're looking for new title sponsors but they insist that the women's tour and the tour of Britain and the two year series will continue next year with or without a title sponsor one race. We won't have next year. In a tour of California organizers. They're announced that both the man's and the woman's races will not be run next year while they try to work out if they have a sustainable business model to take the racist forward to twenty twenty one so quite a bit of Fullerton fuss from that one res going the other way an expanding at least with its coverage anyway attitude Unindo we'll get live streaming. They're all four stages of the two and under will be live streamed in two thousand nine hundred for the first time with the final stage live on TV to transfers then successively at trip Ludvig at arguably the biggest move. She's going from two aft- J. Chloe hosking. I mentioned to Rally C. Clara- Cup and Berg returns burglar in a leadership role leaving W. N. T. Rotor Soya. Paladin is going to see see see Alison Jackson to Sun Web. Obey Parkinson moving to allotted She's focusing on the one day classics there. Canyon Schramm have resigned. There's lift academy right. Alma Harris for next year on a Henderson understand the British under twenty three road. Rhys time-trial champion is joining Sun for Twenty Twenty Trek Sega Fratto have signed eleanor. Buck said Lucinda into broadband bringing the number of full-time writers on their roster from twelve to fourteen away from riders. Katusha are saying cycling after the man's could tisch opposite team was taken over by Israel. Cycling Academy and Sports Clothing Brand are saying in this sport and becoming the clothing supplier and title sponsor a big list so the team is they will be doing this. Big Let Kaytusha next season and then one last bit of news. The UCI has announced that it could introduce the new guidelines for the eligibility of transgender female athletes competing in cycling events beginning in twenty twenty the guidelines could stipulate a maximum mm test threshold which is half of the current maximum for transgender female to be eligible to compete in the women's category. The decision wars reached following the recent International Megan transgender eligibility and Competitive Sports House in Luzon in Switzerland Switzerland and was hosted by the I aa Africa's lunatics as they'll be known from on the issue has been an issue in world with lyrics last couple of years certainly in terms of testosterone levels. and Ed is something that is becoming ever more of an issue in global sports so something about the Ucla are currently considering a community around the world stories. Recent films with the most compelling characters the world's finest purnell explore the world of cycling with rather thank you very much to Rafeh our our title sponsor at podcast famine are grateful to them as ever for their support. If you want to get your winter. Release your winter gear go Taraf Raff dot. CBC and also heavily. The Am gone racing films that they've been doing with team F education. I also Raffard Dot. Let's see I don the Rafeh Channel on Youtube and how many corrections corridors can. We have for of abyss because according to pro cycling star. She is on the the contract. Standard Twenty twenty one and. It's usually uber reliable. So we've got different sources way. Yeah yeah I understand. She was trying to break a year. You're listening to how we can agree on his. She's definitely trying to move. Teams and not squadron. Well that's not she. Yeah even addressed. I think she's but we'll we'll talk about some. The transfer is a bit later on because you know some of the teams will Sunday track sacrificed to a beefed up for next year and there are other interesting wresting moves around. And we'll hear from Cecilia trip Ludvig in the final par an but just to pick up on a couple of things there. And before we hear our bulls stolman retrospective calling it Looking back on the arguably the best team has ever been women's cycling. I think there's no argument really. Is that correct women's but the story this call off people's I in the last few days it's been a by the Olympic quotas and the fact that there will be far fewer women riding in Tokyo than men 'em because of the way that the UCI are allocating places. I mean it saw kind of familiar story isn't a and a strange because certainly since two thousand and eight it has seemed the UCI in cycling. have been really striving for gender equality in terms. There's a number of events and so on but this is still quite a discrepancy. And you've got to ask. Where does that come from in high? Do they think that. That's it's a good way to be in a mask and this is a genuine question because it must be thought that goes behind it. They don't just pluck these numbers out of the air so they've thought that one hundred thirty for man is fair and sixty seven for women is fair or representative or some sort of a good method because they must know that they're going to come in for criticism they must know that we're in two thousand nineteen. This is twenty twenty Olympic Games. And it's not like it's an issue that's not being talked to by I. I'm genuinely baffled. Then if anyone is any indication or any signed reasoning for why this could be the we'd love to hear it I mean obviously there's more strength in depth than the man's Palatine but how do you create strengthen depth if you don't put the opportunities there you know and an Olympic Games is a fantastic opportunity if you come from one of the smaller nations for example to you showcase yourself or to get Olympics experience at the top level maybe use it as a shop window for professional teams as well and if you've got a talented youngster stor from a country where where competition isn't so great. I mean we're not talking about the Netherlands for example but maybe from from another country. And you think we'll have a chance at competing at the Olympics a triathlete but not a famous cyclist. Where are you going to go? You're losing potential talent from the sport from a young age because they're gonNA look at that from a smaller country country and think well there's no there's no spot for me there I just don't I genuinely don't understand. It's interesting because I think it's also obviously it's It's an Olympic Olympic issue. But it's also a UCLA issue because at the end of the day you get Olympic qualification based on your UCI points. That's why people years ago trying to think account women's cycling have a future without the do something radical in different from these. They can't because at the end of the day those Olympic qualification points comes from the UCLA and it's an odd number because yes sixty seven women. It's not number but it's also the same number as when they first had a road racing Olympics which I think is nineteen eighty four orwell which is ridiculous. I mean it's ridiculous itself that could be the first Olympic women's road race but there it was the same number which sexy sixty seven women women but then I looked back at the people saying you know. The women's has grown so much more sense than so we should have so many more riders. I thought well I'm going to have a look at what the men's kind of baseline is and the numbers are just all over the place so we say twenty twenty one hundred thirty men starting In the last Olympics when he's sixteen twenty twelve thousand eight and two thousand four there was one hundred forty four men so more men in nine hundred sixty one hundred and eighty one hundred. Eighty four men men starting that race and the but the numbers just kind of fluctuate. But they're always well. I mean well. Above sixty seven they fluctuate from about one hundred hundred and thirty actually next year would be the lowest number of male participants in the road race. Interesting they so it makes you think well. It's not judged edged on lots of people saying about how you know if there's been growth in the sport that should be growth in the number of participants but clearly the way they're coming up with these numbers is nope nope based on how popular sports are well. It's doing all commercially. Viable is because the numbers fluctuate so crazily over the years. So interesting that this for next year there will be fourteen less. A male writers has been but those fourteen wouldn't be allocated the women or building. And why why. Why would that be? Why would you? Why would you allocate less the men and women? Why wouldn't you just locate more women? Post up I guess case of logistics and athletes. But it's it's not really is a mean though see has been putting pressure on to bring athlete numbers dine across all sports. But you know that the I. T. writer address is still a decent field MM-HMM I wouldn't look quite spectacular parts but to eighty writer races or to even to ninety right races we'd have the same number of athletes and it's odd that there isn't a equality they're very strange indeed particular say after two thousand eight when there was a huge foster by on the track especially there were fewer events for Women Command and on the Ucla addressed for the twenty twelve Olympics. But this is an area where they haven't they haven't addressed the gender inequality there. I think what annoys me about it is that they put these dot site there and then just walk away. If there's a real reason a genuine reason and then thought could could be absolutely fine. We might all understand it. But he put these these figures out there and say what the quota is with then supporting the reason for the bank gender inequalities qualities just like what are your thoughts on what they make of that what you will and I just think auto respect for the women's sport they could just say the reason we have almost double the number of spots for men as for women is because x y inside and then we've got something to to get our teeth into it because there's who silent on it. It's almost almost like they expect as long as they don't make a fuss about it no one else. Well I just genuinely. Don't get it but I'm but I'm not trying to be hostile for the sake of it and not trying to be argumentative for the sake of because that's not useful. There may be valid reasons but I just like to know what they were just like they were proactively offered rather than everybody scratching their heads and feeling about hard done by they could they could sort of steer all out over the past by just saying these. Are the reasons that there is such a discrepancy involved in US or WHOA UCI working group. Weren't you or the day. After the Tour de France is any other or any other meetings shed. You'll the know that you you you spoke there by the UCI and their role in supporting and promoting and developing women's cycling. Yeah there was supposed to be another may hang around the They launched the treaty fronts route which didn't take place I couldn't make it to not one anyway and you know it's it's an honor to be invited onto these things and I think it's always better to try to change things from the inside rather than the arts is not so I was really interested to to go along and the focus of the grip wars. It was hard to improve the attract ability of road racing. Sadly I don't think I missed remembering this. I was is the only person in a rim of the numbers really Maybe by thirty old of sponsors. Reassure organisers Team owners and riders to bring up women's racing. And when I did there lots of shaking of the walls a lot of shaking his head around under room rather than shake talked about sorry. I was nodding my head as I said. Shaking heads there was there was a lot of noting pads around the room But immediately once I'd made my point it was moved onto something else so I made an isolated point about women's citing. It wasn't brought up. I spoke to Paul. Afterwards he said you know great point well made thank you Unfortunately these things always there isn't enough time for all the issues that need to be addressed by the globality of the sport really on all the different things that for issues with it and but it just yet saddened me and didn't surprise me that and no one else brought up women's cycling and that my point a women's cycling even addressed but as I say I'd much rather be in the inside and there are other things things that that do need attention as well but I'm looking forward to the next one as long as I'm invited. Maybe yeah maybe maybe I maybe I was excluding. They wanted to talk about race radios instead for the eighteenth time but we shall say before we go into bulls domains. One other thing from US turned up at the tour of California hiatus and there were there. Were rumors that a new law in in California and might have been a factor in this this law. Aw and concerns equality again and the women's race in California they're equal pry pro rata prize money. Bu But fewer days and this This Californian law the AP four six seven law that requires organizers. Invite equal pay for men and women or to secure permits run events on state lines and although they say the pay was pro wrath equal equal to the number of days fewer so overall the prize money was lasts. For the organizers have denied that that was that is the reason for this this book it means. There are no women's world tour events in America next year which is quite Quite whole isn't that really caught. It's a huge team. Can you imagine being a North American writer North American team a not have I'll not war continent not having a home race. I think it's a huge sheeham. It really medias and I know that you know the race I don't WanNa say struggles but it had to compete with other races at the same time to be able to get the top riders but it did you know and it had an excellent caliber of of competitors on winners out of under Reagan. One being one notable amongst many but it is a real shame. Am I mean they say it is for nine hiatus and it might come back in twenty twenty one and they've got to look at the business model and they and as you say they have denied that this new law is the reason the fact is. There are three days of racing available for the women. In seven days of racing available for the man's there is no way for the woman I guess to have equal pay to the man because he just can't raise the the same number of doing is I mean I've seen a lot of kind of things about the fallout of not having the tool California on the men's side. That's a whole Velo News podcast devoted to it but it's all kind of talking about why is the same for the men but for the women. It's it's it's a massive issue because the bureau is also not running next year so we've gone basically from a state where there were several world tour women's world tour stage races competing with each other and very crowded months Chongming and then there was bearer and then there was California's it's GonNa be really busy and not teen could do all of them and we come from that to having neither of those the two best in part from the women's top at the two best stage rated on the jurors but still to have lose bearer because that was reason to the organizers said something about they were exhausted from for organizing it and lose California as well is is a big issue and it's an it takes away a lot opportunities for stage races to take a huge amount of changes for kind of emerging talent. I think because you see a lot more so people were allowed a lot more freedom in a sage race like beer and a stage race. Like the tour of California than they are in Something like the Juror Rosa. Where it's you got to have your absolute best riders and you're right? Everyone is writing. Offer them as a fee lows more opportunities to be had at something like California telephone. Yah and an interesting racing like you know. They did Mount Baldy this year. And that's a huge mountain. It's great to see the women's Pelletan turn race on something like that so I think it's a real shape or not. I can't really say saying hiatus but you know the reasons that is a hiatus and not the end is because they say they want to to find a sustainable business but I I mean for me. That was kind of one of the big problems with cycling is it. This seems to be a lot of money swilling about but you know teams fold. A riders have no teams to go to and races just collapse. You know from one year to other because I remember like Philadelphia Classic. That was a great one day race for women and that said that was going on hiatus in that that Nathan never came back and think it's kind of happens a lot with the American races that they don't last very long and it was good to have the tour of California for a long as we does. Well Yeah you know it strikes me though just as your fingers haven't thought about this but if the if losing a few races actually turns out to be a casualty of the fight for equality maybe so be it because it's not like we don't have any races coming onboard. We've got the you know the ten day battle of north. That's okay in twenty twenty one but that should be an epic new addition to the racing calendar. The word sensitive is yeah. That's that's why. Give it extra emphasis. Because I'm a rule breaker Richard deal with it. Being on the fact that the dine under as as it should be anyway because it's a women's world series but you know that we've got this guarantee of live streaming of all four stages if at the end of all all of this in a in a couple of years time it turns out that we've got we've got a better calendar The congestion of the calendar isn't that great really whenever it comes to teams that are the size of the women's teams then me base obey. But that's only if everything else is fell died but yeah if it is one of the casualties there maybe didn't have a place S.. Really is that me being a little bit. Why is kind of base not because it's not just women's races is it always not just races are men and women's races that collapses so I didn't think that kind of that it's really about the fact that they have to be equal it means it disappears? I think it's just. The business of cycling is not not sustainable for running a race unless your Aso in your your suddenly having a tour in Saudi Arabia out of nowhere like I think it's it's impossible. Don't think there'll be a women's tour insects. Saudi Arabia sure they've passed any laws. Yeah Oh yeah of because yeah yeah for equal pay. Can you imagine but yeah I think there are behind com. Yeah Yeah I think when it comes to these kinds of issues but yeah yeah I guess what I mean. Lena's dim and gloom. You know I think. Other races are improving and expanding or in terms of coverage expanding the battle of the fact that that is even a proposition is wonderful. All so I I guess I mean. We don't have to be too negative about all of that. It's a shame to lose as races. And it's always to reassess that are that are well run and good for the sport Bah we have progress at least on the other side. And we've got things to look forward to cycling. PODCAST FEMININE is supported supported by Science in sport. 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The Bar in terms of women's site right. Clean and women's teams are listening back. Actually Orla tune and she did a couple years ago with urban Johnson of domains landscaping one of the sponsors obviously and he was just talking. You buy 'em you know when they began sponsoring the team you know. Having a boss were the first women's team to have Kenneth customized bus and they were were you know obviously taking things from Man's teams but really professionalizing the sport. They've done a lot to do that. Others have copied uneven overtaken them. They've still on a vendor bragan. Still Win a lot racist got very strong team by felt. I don't know if you felt the same in in the last year or so the that that old can a magic hasn't quite been there are certain domination. Hasn't quite been there. It definitely definitely hasn't because of the caliber of the competition you know and the consistency of the competition. However I d find it amusing that I was looking back through the years news news coverage in an April this year there was an article saying I mean essentially spelling the decline of Bulls dolman because they hadn't been the dominant team yet this year and yet they are once again the top team in the world? That's a fifth year in a row so even when they are under pressure and even when they're facing stiff competition they are still better than everybody else and I think that is incredible. Given how long they've been at the talk given the nature of the competition that's come on board. I mean not just that there are more writers becoming more professional and teams that are more professional but the fact that we have the women's teams joined to the man's teams and all the best practice they're learning from the man's teams which in many ways has been a different sport for a long time. They are raising the bar professionalism ever further which which bulls Ullmann's themselves els freely admit and yet will still the top team by quite a margin. I think it's really impressive. And just a testament to the years of hard work that they've put in on a credit to the to sponsors you know because it's easy to lament the fact they are pulling out and say that it's a reflection or bowed reflected in some way of where we are financially Leeann Anna Business Sense in women's cycling at the moment but the fact they'd been in it for ten years I think it's eight years. Collectively is huge huge. You know and and Yeah I think I think they can all it can be very pride and and if anyone has good sponsor product to be able to offer any potential sponsors and it's balls dolman and what's the news on. The you spoke damage Tom. We're going to hear from him. He's the director of the team. M. Any news on the hunt for a new sponsor. Then us as as yet. There is no news to report at laced. Donnie was understandably reluctant. Reluctant reading between the lines. Doesn't sound like the very far along with any negotiations. If they have much to discuss stage do have another year left so they've got time but they will not want to be allying that clock to tick dime because obviously once we start racing next season riders can start to be courted by other teams. Won't you lose a star near more to say a former world champion. They still have three and they're bigs then things start to look a little bit trickier and then it's harder to find sponsors. He still signing very very positive. Note you know and I think they did a great job at that press conference in Yorkshire of sailing all the positives not just of the team but of the sport Boorda's hall and the growth of the sport. If you were to look at that you would think wow. That's really easy business. Investment active because for a couple of million you got huge exposure on an international scale and but it but at the moment they've nothing to report and no sign yet that there's anything in the offing but I've been told that hopefully he'll kick me up to date with anything as it happens but why I've seen from what I've seen Written down from what Denise Thomas Been saying he's also looking. It's not that he's looking for any any bit of money to carry this team on. I mean he's looking for a budget so that it can be expanded so that you know the squad can be that can be more riders on the roster that they can compete at the highest level. I mean that they missed then they not on the world tour teams that they're bringing in the UCLA bring in in both domains on on that because it would take a four year commitment which oversee they can't do at the moment but You Know Donnie Sam as said I don't know whether he said more to you all about about that. He wants to be on that very top level and I think kind of win the team sky when sky said they'll we're pulling out. Everyone thought well. There's no way that they're gonNA find a sponsor that is gonNa give them what sky gave and anything more or even match anywhere be anywhere near matching guy kind of ones writing these things about the end of sky and end the dominance and then you know any else comes along so I think it's way too early to suggest and I think it's just quite remarkable remarkable but I'm impressed by the fact that Dunstan is laying down his cards and saying. Look Doc we if you WANNA come on board you have to be committed yet to be giving us a lot of money and we want to make this thing a bigger project than it ever has been before. Well let's hear I shall we from Donnie stem. The sports strengths are also from Chrissy Madras longest serving a member a both domains and also couple of writers who wrote for the team in its early days. Nicky Brown Myer and Lucy Martin L.. Let's hear from all them. No the Wonderful Time and you're pretty happy Brown. Let's go paternity on now. The helm of the Bulls domes uh-huh team in his steered them to world domination. Having taken over in two thousand thirteen is former track cycling star. Donnie stom- cycling ISH. I fight for victory. You haven't actually already with Catholic. These in sport always to enjoy how successful a team can be but I think he had the team time. Trial that there's always something special to win in the wing that in Katahdin autre nothing to our because you do that with complete I think I think they all cheated fishing from from winning racism and tried to get. It should mushroom blind before you build a team legitimate. Shoot the rider in your team. It doesn't shoot. She'd have been. We also really create riders. Wanted to join our team. Pretty sure it wasn't good. And then you make choices on the hell code out. Our team is a little bit that we are pretty close to each other and it's a shorter for kind of family as it needs to fit in several. We'd be out there. Riders What Are Star riders. But don't fit in that Ed Group and they must understand. It's always want to get out of your team is not for the initiative on the ends as you get also really crucial for the top rider. Drove by this team. Always a little a bit higher and testing. Is You as a show many drivers if you want to be. You also deterred to grow ended. INDE- it's not working automatically use along the the the Dutch culture. The heart of the team made made a difference to who you select elected to kind of personalities. You want it in the team because I also know deter Hopkin handle director way David Moore struggling with you. Don't think you know maybe WanNa go and I must also say we're we're also some girls that I didn't expect that they liked it the audience act like the dodig toy from from speaking with us so yeah it's also on how US Steel Lucie Martin only did one season of both domains in two thousand thirteen teams first year with familiar name but this year that she remembers vividly. It was it it was really good. It was very dark upstart and the you know they had a few teething problems with like new new equipment. New new vibes new mentality with Donny. Any stop coming on board as well and then to me is really good to be part of and to see I was only with them for one year later to see the vision. They hadn't search how they really wanted to become the next best team so it was quite nice. Caban just a start of that process. Really clear from the combatants were to really become a dominant force in women's cycling. Yeah that was kind of the reason I think will lizzy I on May one across the team. Because that's what they were. They were promising to be take a team. The team I think it was the year of the right books that they had a specialized bikes. And you could just say you know the the momentum was building and they were trying to find a writer so I think the whole staff off the mental folks on how the make things better i. Obviously that's what they they went on to do in the years after that one reason they were there have been so successful is actually the fact that they took team and like a real mental AC- really came across a uh-huh the before when I joined drinks was my first expedition to hunt. I did find it hard because the quite blunt quite you know they say things how they are so it was the same in both almonds and it was very much this issue trump. This is what you do it. I'm not saying they don't try sake things. It's a nice way which is hard. Sometimes I think that makes makes a really good team and a good mentality to have the between oldest staff and bring across the riders and especially in the team meetings. It was always very direct which she liked them I think yes. I think it worked really well. The longest serving member of the current Bulls Dome Team. Having joined in twenty. Fourteen is thirty two year old Luxembourg champion Christine Madras and we always had one or two like decried us. Having into beginning to Lizzie and ten yet AV Meghan so we always had also in the beginning just been cried as that number one in the ranking. Oh we'll go in the world to ranking so oversee that help to have a good fuelling incident in the team itself kept motivating everyone not only to lead us with going Some need less and the management had always good hand to To bring in Unidas on ABC So it was like changing sees all the time but the level at a top say two same majority of team was too tame so there was not so much changing aging and I think that helps that helps also to know each other and to trust each other John I think there's also because although he does intelligent goes And we will stay always knew that that we cannot have any right for one. It was more than enough to to to know when they had to. Yeah they ought to be to Notch Nita address so Dan was actually never really a fight about Yeah sharing leadership leadership. That's always a good thing for the atmosphere inside of the team because if you half already fights about who is who so re-lead than them Racist starting pretty bad nine days before she was due to give birth to her. First Child Nikki Premier spoke to us about her time with Bulls dolman almonds. She was there in two thousand sixteen twenty seventeen when they were incredibly dominant Vannice. I just all the girls. We've said Vatican kind of fun because those always a bit cautious into big women's team special night the best team in the world pretty much at the time and and I just seem to immorality while the goes around command the stuff with great dining style karate manage aids and it was an scenario. I think it was that we all kind of new job coming role as always like where free to the we had a clear plan star rates asprilla relaxed and we had ratty gray equipment and just just the whole atmosphere was good to be honest. It was it was just like we went into a race. Someone you you go my net. I'm GONNA do it. I just think there's like the Boston hired everyb- everyb- the team Kinda Kinda step up to that level. You know there was so dominant so I could maybe three four years and It was kind of everybody else's time to try and step up too much of too much bows. And that's what's I definitely kind of made despoil. Where is at the moment just because that was kind of the high and everybody was kind of wit towards that and it's just ended up pushing everybody say from the outside? It looks like and I've always thought the Bulls Dolman have been the leaders on the instigators of changed within women's cycling. And what you have all done to professionalize the sport by simply being professional has been incredibly a impressive from the outside. Did you feel that from the insight was up part of your goal really to to raise the bar for women's cycling or was that just a byproduct of being incredibly good at what you do not came into women Shaikh lease then it was not my the biggest culprit being a women's cycling or I don't know what I can expect. Some nets was there for domestic work. If you get it changed a lot pretty quick integral just relieving like professional. I think our team was one of the search teams once. Try to create ads. How do you list like professional cyclist at makes the you'd steps again and you can see that all the girls with our team making his step is you can make huge steps and it's difficult than you might small steps anti? Is she coming up. A lot of women teams are to get into the middle of in the mid what they take with them and it's nothing to them step ahead without giving away way to other nations. You might be listening if you were to give one lesson. That other countries could learn from the Dutch to create more champions. And if he won't do you think that might be. I mean you. You search needs to get more riders to buy that that this is the most important thing you really need to kiss them. Certain on the bike and not try to to let them be real you can enjoy cycling is the front of the benefit can have folded the rest of the life. Then you need to hope that toldt stay on the bike before You're listening to the circling feminine. Brought to you by Skoda dedicated eighteen closing the gender gap in cycling one race one cyclist at a time. This is our time. Thank you very much. Indeed to Skoda who have sported the second pocket Femina since the women's tour as they did last year as well Very generous onerous of them to back this podcast. We hope they'll be back next year as well. Not least because we got to drive. The lovely Octavia car which is being picked. I thought you know go to. It's been great flyover recently for rid our classic actually instead of ordering an Uber at Richard said that I could call on his services to shoe Fermi from the station back to his home and Lo and behold worlds. This wonderful cycling. PODCAST branded Skoda turned up at the station. I though yeah we're doing this subtly to be using it okay okay. We Blue Blue. Blue Conrad Swab Swab. Shortly to say they were coming to collect a mistake to oil anywhere near her her own into hand. Anyway and moving onto summa transfers over this season for next year One of the big ones as you said they're all is trip. ludvig moving on from T- mish worth a long time to F J which I think coffee people by surprise Quite quite changed for her so as caught up with her the ruler class. Just after she'd been on stage with you and the astro boy the move the silly you just. You've been on stage with ORLA there. Do you enjoy it was it was good fun and they were actually quite well a lot of people coming. I mean I really enjoy it. Listen It was good fun and all this is good so she mentioned that you've been on TV in Denmark and stuff. What are things you find that? Your profile is rising there. Yeah I mean I think also slowly people. People are in Denmark opening their eyes to what I mean. We women's cycling. Oh that's fun and we may be also have some some good Danish writers. Aw May and then we're small country so people also cheering extra for for each other. So I think that's why I I was in in. I think it was like a fun. Comedian TV show which oh sorry equivalent of either. I'm a celebrity. Get me over here anything road now. I'm not a space and you are switching teams and I think that call all people by surprise the team that you've gone to especially H- did not move. I mean I think it was time time for me to To get a new environment to to get new inspiration and yeah I'm I'm really excited to go to DJ. And I think it's a it's a good place for me to you to develop even more so writer Because Yeah I think I've still got quite a lot to learn and yet they're quite ambitious as well. I'm as I am and with with the sponsor committing for years and applying for Walter License. And I think that speaks for itself that we m we WANNA WANNA get up there and and also it's quite impressive. How if you look at the history? How the team has improved? You know year by becoming beginning biggest sound. I'm really excited. I'm I'm also going to have a lead role in that team which I'm also excited about I think Especially for the classics. And we'll be a really strong team also with immediately and broody and we'll we'll be a super strong team also now with the Olympics next year. It's going to be a really interesting. Yeah and yeah you mentioned as well meeting improve our working on areas you oh you we see. You are the sharp end of a law of really tough races and I guess the Writers Heidi convert into into two wins who do beyond developing your sprint. Or what areas do you work onto. Maitland next I think. First of all it's it's bound going back in training hotter and more and that's something you know you do step by step. I hope that I can make you know a further. Step up the letter next year. And I'm definitely I promise you I'll train really hot doing this. off-season also has a competitive person. You know you want to get that big win and you want to be up then really really fighting for for that That big win. Obviously so the physical side is is one thing and and s you race you also learn how to how to attack on the right point or your gap being become better at the the descending or I mean and the time trialing there's so many aspects I mean it seems the I expect the commitment to be at the top of women's cycling is getting bigger and bigger each year. We see on meat from Luton. We hear stories about the training that she does. There's a life is she lives. manaval says well life revolves around cycling. Is that something you're prepared to do you want to do or is it difficult on as desirable terrible few tough some kind of balancing your life. Well I mean I think for me. It's it's really important to have balanced but I mean so on one side you know. You're extremely focused on training hot and doing the best and you know there's so many ways that you know you you try to get that little extra of its recovery. If it's sleeping if it's the you know eating healthy food or you know and then there's also the the mental side and the being being a happy person or I think that's something that's really important for me as a writer. I'm a really emotional person. And it's it's important that I can go out and have a drink and you know got have that balance and have that fun. And it's I don't think I'll be the best ride in the world if if I would just go on one straight line and just be like on no no candy no alcohol or you know like sometimes it's important potent those things I mean all the time obviously but to sometimes tonight. Let's have a bottle of wine or like and I I think that's also what makes me a good rider that that I that I'm happy writer sweaty. You get a get together with your new teammates. We're meeting For training camp in December so excited for that will is I. Guess you the same thing for a long time and it will be a big change for you. I guess yeah it is going to. I'm excited because you know you'll meet new staff and everything is just new and new bikes and new teammates and everything is new. But that's also you know the the exciting and the fun part of you know because it's going to be a new experience and I think it's going to be a good one l.. So your plans over the winter. Is it just hard work and training or go home to Denmark and enjoy yourself but yeah ah will definitely and also you know for for Christmas and stuff all albeit Denmark for sure I'll drink glasser to who champagne you know when we hit US evening. So yeah there should be time for for having fun as well and if you could win one race next year which one would it be. I heard you onstage. Talk about strategy. I I thought yeah I could see the finish. The claim finishes is an obvious contender. Ender but what would be the race. You would most like to. Yeah there's there are many racist. I would really like to win. But the you know like like a race strategy audio or flanders but I mean those are racist that every cyclist wants to win you know so it's GonNa be crazy it hard to to win one of these and yeah. It's not like off if I don't win. One of those. The season has been shit. You know and I would really like to to go after that big win. Something excessively Vague on her move to F- TJ and also how she spoke onstage with you are by high she could improve and and how she can narrow the gap to the very top because she's she's is getting on the podium in tough races she's you know putting on performances are very eye catching but she's not translating into into wins as yet still very a young. She's twenty four by what. What can she do? What areas can she work on to try and go from being pulled him finish it to a winner and and also high prepared she to make the sacrifices? Some writers are clearly making to automate being the most obvious example of somebody ready so committed to her sport on raising the bar for everybody else so it was interesting to hear some of her thoughts on that. And I don't know about you Larussa. The move surprises well. It did a bit today because obviously she's kind of you. Think of anything about Bigler Gla and it's interesting to see progression kind of sexually. She was kind of an unknown and then she won the women's World Tour Youth Jersey. 'cause she got some great great results few years ago but she was always basically in a helper. Oh for Ashley Moment. Then Ashley Moumen left courtesy say live and then I think sesame kind of became the lead In a way that she's been building up to becoming a leader so it's interesting to see this move where she is now the lead and she's going to F. D. J. and she is going to have to live up to that kind of role as it were Because in the past she's always been given the time and the freedom to try what she wants to try and get a win or try and get a a podium but now there is definitely going to be is on her to make to do something. Dj and F.. T. J. is not known as a winning team. They've got some strong domestiques and I know that Brody Chapman is going to F. D. J. as well and there's a Gilo and fall in which very strong domestiques forcibly there but without having that kind of of winning nature already having it's going to be I think it's GonNa be quite hard today facility but I mean. She raises her game all the time. And and you know in some races which you would that I think on this racist too hard for her to do well in. She always surprises and impresses so Yeah it'd be interesting being tonnage. Any other moves here. I am just the trek additions. Really the fact that they are bolstering their team. I'm from twelve. FULLTIME writers to fourteen think speaks volumes over longer term ambitions as doors. The tea right is that they signed. Eleanor box dead. Her first pro contract and listened to Brian to seasoned pro. I think speaks to the fact that they are trying to train up next generation as well L. is trying to win with the current writers. You know and you look at. I'll be twist because resigned. And they almost got this distinction between the guys like lizzie diagnosed. The top who we know can win races and the younger ones coming through an Lucinda brand. I'm sure we'll get opportunities of our own but I'm quite sure as well that she's being signed partly to share share that experience you know. She's such a hard a writer and she's such a county writer you know she. She knows how to read news she she can be very aggressive and doc kind of experience I think will be invaluable to the likes of Eleanor. Eleanor beckstead and so the likes of IBM van. Twist skin and the other younger riders in the team. So that really did strike me. Because they had a solid I g I think what were the top five v I think in the in the world rankings. I know they wanted to be higher. I spoke to an in Georgia runs any and Berg before the tariff flounders this year and that they wanted to be set top three by the end of the year they wanted a few bigger wins under the boundaries. They didn't really Begat Lizzy won the women's tier. But they haven't set the pallet on the calendar light as they might have want to buy a decent solid first season. I would say at a big big year coming up with the Olympics as much as anything else for their writers so I just thought eight spoke of encouraging longer term ambitions really especially since they are one of the teams have applied for the top tier of the women's World Chair for next year. You know so. They're planning to be in the sport for at least for another four years anyway. So yeah that was the that was they. Were the moves really that struck me the most. I think Lucinda Ruby incredible. That's a great Kufo for trek. Sega for by also makes me question what's Team Sun web up to relate because I kind of feel like they're in a bit of a nowhere place a few years ago they were kind of getting fourteen. Eighteen wins season this season. I think they got three and one of them was lay coachman in a time entre one of them was like in a Canadian Race and one of them was a one stage of the bowls ladies. And that's just kind of not what we'd kind of got used to in postures of you know seeing Rivera Lot at the top and Losing Brand Losing Ellen Van Dyke a few years ago I think that kind of made a massive shift so it kind of surprises me that there again letting one of their absolutely a key riders go and go to San Antonio Pole position can nice job there Anna Henderson. A former ski are maybe. They've looked at the man's results. The thought that you need to take the Alpine. They haven't seen anybody. I mean there's not a lot of changes somewhere bar there so I listen Jackson. Yeah well it kind of looks. Quite kind of sprinting. Now I mean and Lianne Lipper we we were there. The women's torch. She had a few days a great. Yes great respect but I kind of feel like she's a little bit left on her own somewhat because they've got kind of a lot of these very fast finishes and you know I don't necessarily know that there's people to kind of backup performances the Leeann lip out there Janaka in seeing and then she left early this year because of you know some kind of disagreement or not quite feeling comfortable. The team so she'd have early so is kind live team that was I think blazing a trail of years ago in terms of nominating a leader in work into the lead working for leader which is something a few years is going women's Sock Ping wasn't really happening. It's kind of funny to see them kind of left behind. This is the first year we did. They were so impressive in in writing is a team and defending and the Jersey carnivorous Jersey. And and yes since then they've stagnated a little bit. I think think any others cheer I. I mean it'll be interesting to see what happens. Lorraine Evita's 'em because one of the stories of the year has been Park Hotel Valkenburg. Demi volunteering thing is well there and they looked to have a really good long-term plan in place not least because they signed feebis up on this long term contract designer to twenty twenty or twenty twenty one but it seem seemed like they had really invested in these young dots riders to as part of a long-term plan it it could be a risky move for for Llerena abyss. Because there's something that's clearly working for her at Park Hotel bargain and I spoke to the team a few times through the year here and they were taking a lot of pride in in punching above their weight and bringing these youngsters through and taking it to the more seasoned pros and dot. It comes with an awful lot of momentum and an awful lot of fight and and I just wonder she's top dog on parked Valkenburg around Demi following Jewish and other rotate another team. She'll have to fight for those opportunities to win races and fight for opportunities to lead a team. It'll be very different setup regardless of what happens so I'm not saying that she shouldn't be doing. It'd be maverick not consider it. But I didn't get inevitably translates into more success if she does leave before contracts. It's out of it. Trust more money. Well I mean because I imagine she's on a lot of money such a small team whereas there are teams out there who want her who you probably would be able to offer her considerable raise. And you know it's not she'd she'd be top dog on most teams when it comes. The bunch sprints. Now you'd have to say it's not like she was relying on. You know you get those printers who rely on a really good lead out to basically take them to the line. It's not like she's been doing that this year so it does make me think on whatever team she joins she could. She could win there. But I don't know the INS and outs of the situation but it does seem like a bit of a Shame Park Hotel Valkenburg who overstate that. They are bolstering. Their squad bringing in Romi Casper and newscaster and Hanna Nilsson who really good strong experienced stieg's and it seems like that they would have been bolstering. That squatter work to kind of bolster the you know Demi following and Laura Navy blue already there But I mean that's Kinda the nature of these development squads in insight like in football bowl. You know if you develop a player and sell them on you get a load of money in cycling if you develop a rider and sell them on you. Don't get in and get anything. So that's kind of the nature of those kinds of squads that riders. It's also risky for angling for move. The move end doesn't happen. That could be you know. Uncomfortable the share price but we'll keep an eye on that. Well believe it. Their show eight on convene again next month may be all in person who who knows into San where a great opportunity see for that in the meantime thank you very much or luck luck. Thank you thank you very much. You're listening to the cycling PODCAST. Femina an association with rapper the fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling with character ride and watch with rather in one thousand nine hundred nine stay partner. Es Education I and Canyon Shrimp Yeah.
Food for Thought: Volume 37
"Places please took go into window. Your what's going on your air? Bring you food that volume thirty seven here. The semi social life of a plaque introvert podcast. Thank you for tuning in all around the world men England always shows up. Thank you Canada. Always there thank you so much and some new some new places. Japan shown really heavy Ireland Sweden Australia. Thank you for tuning into this. Podcast men and listening to a semi social black introvert. Make his way through life. Hope you'll having a beautiful beginning of the week. Also hope you'll had a beautiful weekend and I hope he saw something new saw something that made you smile. I know we're in the middle of a pandemic and that were stuck in the house. Some of us are stuck in the house. Some of US have to go to work. I know life is a bit boring right now but I hope that you saw something made you smile to major reflect the made you be a piece telling you. I was outside the The other day in the and I just felt I felt good now some of that is because I live in Ohio which we have like. We've been in the midst of like nine straight months to fall gray weather. Someone the Sun comes out. It's like Oh my God the son is here. We go outside and we and we enjoy it and that made me smile men. It made me smile to watch my kids run on the front yard and maybe smarter. Watch my kids. Ride their bikes. Like it's little things and I know I have a busy life. Man I really do. My life is always each hours packed with something to do. Especially when I work but you know this time off of work has really does this. This quarantine times really slow me down a bit in which in the beginning of God goddamn dying of boredom. I'm dying of boredom now said a plan dying boredom. I'm actually happy to be alive. I'm happy to be alive because while I was dying of boredom I I sort of. I was so selfish and not understanding and not seeing not really appreciating that you know what all. I'm dying of boredom. Some people are just dying. Some people are dying in my privilege. Why Privilege to say I'm dying aboard him. I don't know why we're doing this house. People driving me crazy. You know what my family's not a burden my kids. They're not the burdens. I'm blessed to have a beautiful family and beautiful kids. I'm blessed to have this house. What am I complaining about? What am I complaining about? Man I I am. Life isn't perfect but say it all the time but life has purpose. If I slow down if I if I stop doing this pity party of onboard. I don't have anything to do. And I find some purpose in my day is changes all. It changes my perspective since I've been in this sort of a or since we've been in this pandemic time which social distancing and wearing masks and all that you know what spins off by Wlaz like eighteen pounds man eighteen pounds because I've been running each and every day with three miles. Three miles is generally like you know the norm what I did every night. Three miles now like you know what this push? Let's go five school from five to six. Skoda six seven and watching my. I'm watching. Wait fall off my body and I'm not saying this from Vanity Element but you know what one of my goals is to eat better and beat workout more. So I am lighter lighter weight not skin tone. I'm like I'm a good eleven fifty seven. Pm Black I love it but or when it comes to my weight. Because if I'm honest myself which I tried to be. There's some places I can't go if I'm heavy. I can't fly in planes if I if I am two hundred and thirty five pounds on my knees hurt Joe my knees at two hundred and thirty five pounds they did. I wasn't sleeping right. I felt heavy when I slept. A body was like air. You need to stop p boards having like a fat shaming yourself. You look fine no I. Don't and don't tell me that because if I let that creep in my mind I'm going to allow myself to become okay with not sleeping. Well my knees hurt. My back hurts my feet hurt and so last year I made a choice. I have to lose away. I have to cut pop out your love pop. I listen I drink pop like it was holy water. I was trying to say myself. I Love Pepsi. I love sprite. You could put kool-aid and sprite together just like a perfect mix bad pop out an exercise and that was like the first transition in which I was like. Oh my gosh. I'm losing weight just by cutting pop out and watching how much I watching my food. As opposed to along my food to watch me and then with pandemic it's like Yo step up your exercise game and so I had to be very conscious of my foods that I eight because when I'm stressing in a pandemic will bring you some stress. I will snack in snack and snack and do what I call. Mindless eating in which the food is watching me on watching. Tv to watching me. And I don't see that when I'm sitting down there with a bag of chips if I grab the whole bag of cheetos like we're on a date we sit on. The couch snuggled up. I'm a smash a whole bag of Cheetos and so I try to be very conscious of what I'm eating in. Why meeting and Saban running each and every night watching what I eat and I've lost like eighteen pounds. My goal is to get a neath is to get under two hundred pounds on. We'll make that happen each night. I don't WANNA run. I run with my dog. It could be is is tough every night because I'm thirty five and frankly I don't feel like running don't but life is not about what you feel like about doing what you know you have to do? I can use that fill like excuse when I was seventeen for like doing it. No I have to do it because there are places I need to go. I want to travel the world. I can't travel the world with high blood pressure there places. I need to go there things I need to do. I believe in being mobile. I believe in walking city in my own introvert away into speaking of people is speaking live to people. I can't do that if I'm out of breath last year. If our run a half a mile our be wheezing my body blades. Stop it now. You're killing us now on a five mile. Six Mile seven miles. Your body's like you're tired but you're doing better you need. This is teaching discipline. How to keep going? We Abidi says we stop here. Lay Down how to fight through how to run up heels. I learned so much about running. Appeals how when I used to see when I'm running I'm like your let me go ahead and just coast up. This hill is so painful to slow your pace on a hill. It is so painful because like what should take me only one minute. One Minute to get up to seal is taking me two minutes and I'm wasting time. Get up the hill. You can coast on level ground. You could save your breath and level on level ground. You don't save any breasts on the hill you get up the hill. That's life. Can you make it up the hill? Can you find you dig deep and make it up the toughest part of your course or do you do some brace the pain say you know this House always going to be? I'm just GONNA take my slow time. I'm learning a lot making a choice. As acidic lasts like three episodes built now reveal later. Bill now reveal later. I gotTa build myself now got to build. My endurance now seconds travel the world later Saga Walk City blocks and meet people infest positive into their life later. I have to be able to see it. I got to be able to see it. I know social distancing. I know it stands six feet apart. Don't talk to people you don't know but I have to see it in my mind that went on that. When social distancing is over after see now that when this is over the lives the people that I will meet the investment that I will be able to do amazing video now reveal later and so I wanNA encourage you all to build now and reveal later start now. I know not. The Future. Looks crazy and cloudy and gray. And we're never going to get out of this and Blah Blah Blah and. No No. No that's what people telling you. What are you telling yourself built now revealed later? A lot of people are subscribing to this idea of this is the end of the world and the world. We're never going to recover. Just give up now. I hear the so much is his sort of pessimistic view and easy to fall into because a majority of people I would say the majority of people or healthy majority a falling in it. But when you bring that. We have outlook of positivity like no. I'm not going to subscribe to that and I think I think some of is because it's a choice. Those that are waiting for the world to in has they have never really experienced life beginning. That makes sense those awaiting on the world to in have yet to experience in life beginning if you'd have to start of their life. They're waiting for life to start for them for someone to say you know what your life is starting right now you life started. You're so busy waiting on the end. You you've missed your start. You've missed your start. The starting gun is already went off. I'm choosing making a choice to have a positive outlook to making a choice to look myself as an answer to a problem. Are you making that choice? Are you investing that same amount of energy to yourself built now Brazil later? I will tell you something. That's you know to made me. Smile was my kids man my kids. They're wonderful the nine and seven and they have a lot of my personality. Man They do this. Share my wife an is personality in his beautiful thing but they could say some stuff. You know that. That's pretty clever man. And so I- wash my hands right when this corn seen a washing hands like crazy like even my kids and like daddy wash your hands like I just watched them. But I'm glad that you all know now the importance of washing hands because to get children to wash your aunt. Sometimes it's like you already did. I'm like your hands are dry. That's crazy no you didn't. There's no such thing as as dry water. Go Wash your hands and so I'm washing my hands right in so I come out the bathroom and my kids Daddy. Your hands are chapped. What okay what? You can't have chapped hands like like you have chapped lips like your lips can be chat. They could be dry. Ugo Wear like chaps clothing. I think that's a clothing brand is still out that's what you like chaps but you can't have chapped hands yes. My hands were a little dry. I'll tell you why because I wash them so often. Everything is like a wash hands experiment every time something like wash your hands go outside. Wash your hands and some losing. His layer of cocoa butter layer of of holy oil. I don't know what it is by lost his like. Have you ever liked fried fish or fried something to cast iron skillet and that skill has some flavor at the bottom? You Wash a little bit. You know you do wash it but you don't WanNa wash it too much because like oh discuss some good discussing history in this plan. My hands are always wash up. But I'm losing some of the some of the natural beauty of having beautifully moisturised hands from from yesteryear. I'm washing all away. And so when my kids at L. Daddy? You have chapped hands. Mma first instincts like Yo jerks awesome jerks look back and realize like Yo man. This is a funny moment and this is probably something they inherited from me. I went for the whole thing out of say Yo. You came a clap your hands because your hands chapped. Outta got like the actual chapstick and gave to somebody. Yo Your Hands Toby. You need this. Go ahead and put some of their record. They're right in the corner right by the dumb. You really need some young. I'm that person. So they got it for me but it made me smile man. Sometimes you gotta find some things that made you smile the sill there so jerks but I love man. Those are my babies in. I'm getting back. That's what a good parent would do. You'RE GONNA get him get him back. I've seen your elbows. Senior needs. Have Seen Ashi now seen him as I say yet. You need a foggy like you got foggy. Knees elbow the scene weather systems on your knees and elbows going clear mouth. Put some lotion on get some sunshine. But I'M GETTING BACK. That's what you do as a as a wonderful parent y'all saga last episode Manda. Last episode went over really well really well and People all around were download in this episode. If you haven't listened to last episode Koran virus color and community the systematic killing a black and brown America go listen to it because it was all from the heart man. I'm a black man in America. I'm a middle class. Black Man in America. I'm an educated black man in America and even I have a backpack privilege that some of my brothers and sisters don't have because of my job what I make. I have more resources than what a lot of people have in the black and Brown community yet. Because I have those resources does not make me smile because I know the other side that there are people that just don't have they don't have the even we talk about like stay at home. Stay at home in an estate in and I have the privilege of staying home because I've home okay. Be aval home that is stocked with Food Water Resources Avid Bank account. That I really need something. Be My privilege self can. I don't know Ebay Amazon. Goto the boozy Kroger's and have them actually select groceries for me? I just pull up my car and put it in my bag on car but when you live in a food desert in which your grocery stores the corner store and they don't have as much selection and they don't put it in your car or when you live in a place in which bussing skeptical as in Detroit or when you live in a place or if you have an existence in which you don't have much in the bank account and which when you lose your job you don't get unemployment. Would you can't save money because money's not there to be saved. Yes these are things that many in America but most especially black and Brown America deals with pandemic or not and so I I made this episode four brothers and my sisters four Black Brown America as an encouraging note now only for them but also to various leaders at Noah's happening in the neighborhoods in which black and Brown people reside is tough man. It's tough I know I have students right now. Don't have food not many but I do families that that give me calls once every like three months or something. Mr And I don't have any food. Can you help me out? Yes I can because my privilege has given me the resources to help that last episode was a call to leaders a call to those who call themselves leaders whether you are black brown white wherever wherever ethnicity. You are to bring attention to a problem. That's occurring in many spots in various cities across the nation but in this world when it comes to treatment of black and Brown people and I hear it from people will you know they seem to pull themselves up by their bootstraps first off. Do you not bootstrap is okay. Second off they're not wearing bootstraps. Okay third a such a such a such an arrogant statement is a statement with so many holes in it who wakes up wants to be poor. Who Wakes up says you know what I want. Shoes this the one with all the violence put me there. The one with the drugs. Yeah I want I want I want cocaine on this block and I want A crack over here. I choose that property. You don't do that sometimes. You're forced in it a lot of times. You're forcing S. that's the problem poverty. You wake up in it. Generational is hard to get out in. Mama was broke. Grandma's Burr broke Mamas Mamas broke. Everybody's broke what do gets into your mind poverty. Mind and which you can't create enough to survive you have an impoverished broken heart. We'll show never get out of your situation. Urban America is being systematically ravaged by Krahn virus plain and simple and generally black and Brown folks and also yes there are poor white. People live down there too. They're not taking care about the society. Resources are sent down there. Post pandemic pre pandemic in the pandemic. So we're asking people to survive but we're not giving them any tools of survival any hope you can make it through this with your tough urban grit pull yourselves up by your bootstraps. We watch them die because this nation historically does not value black or brown people regardless of your wealth regardless of your wealth eight sex orientation whatever may be value black and Brown people here in America. But if you're poor and black if you're poor and Brown was they work you to death would stay will and once shoe die next in line. Generally that next in line is going to be one of the children who falls right into that trap of I guess I gotTa Work Myself to death. It was a call to all leaders but also call of love to those that are in the midst of it. The I hear you I see you. I want to do something about it now. Reveal later I wish I can go down there and and Handout Krona virus tests. And I don't think I could even get my hands. I wanted to be honest. I have a better chance than what they do. But I'm still black in America they'll say as Azman push me off to the side breathe into a bag home but we have to do something because this is bigger than just krona virus. This is really the virus of poverty in how plagues communities in place. The people that live in these communities and it's a virus at attaching itself to everything including the health care system including the education system including the resources including the the overall standard life and healthy eating and and jobs and work opportunities is all down there. The lack few lack in a nor on a normal day. You're going to lack so so much more severely in a pandemic to be done. Y'All I want to encourage man encourage all those leaders are no. I know people who listen to this park has a so many leaders all across the world that. Listen to this podcast. I WANNA encourage you that. If you see a problem you have the opportunity to be an answer. Bill now reveal later. See a problem being answer. You may not be able to solve the problem tomorrow or today tomorrow or the next but you have the vision sometimes if you have the vision to see a problem sometimes you don't want to call too. It was speaking of somebody to a listener today. Who who was in New Orleans who sees a problem. She sees a problem and she is in a position to be an answer. What a what A. What a incredible place to be in what she can walk in her purpose. Walk within her passion walk within her gifts. Her talents her personality. In and you know all of us are answers to something. We grow up thinking that were problems. Were proud when children. There were always someone's burden I in that wears on our minds to but really we are acids meant. We're not a problems were answers. We're problem solvers. What problem has been revealed to you? And do you believe that you are the answer you know in this world which we we celebrate the celebrities who are influencers and we go on. Instagram. We see oh. She's in the fluid sir. He's an fluency. We should be celebrating the problem solvers. Would you rather be influenced or problem solver? Would you rather be an influencer or an answer? You are the answer to some problem out there. And what a beautiful. What a blessed place to be is not a perfect place because anything done with faith can't be perfect or would require faith but it does require a person a person who believes that they are the answer. Do you believe it. Do you see it. Are you willing to go after it. Are you willing to build now and reveal later? What's your answer that did ladies and gentlemen the journeys over wake up? No makeup has naked after my language but hangups do not define the kid flawless. I'm Scott up in them with my body off laundry list of all the kindnesses but I still sit T. in home in live free because hardships and heartbreaks to wrap up piff knees and mom toby. They won't because all goading listening to show leaks or no wings listening but I'm coaching mark. Gaza juicy awkward my own. My life is right. I'm just trying to do the right thing. Hope they did improve and boost costume. You'll be soon to meet the Royal Haemoglobin causing to me. Mushrooms is when human negative history for my own Walmart? The will of yours truly then time music video overnight at times a week. Alabama site like holiday rights. I still don't know everything but I guess. Confessions from celebrities do parting is such sweet sorrow.
67: Stage 2 | Kent Cyclopark Kent Cyclopark | Women's Tour 2019
"You're listening to the cycling podcast Femina an association with Rafeh the fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride and watch with Rafter in twenty nine nine estate partner, ES education. I and canyon shrimp. You're listening to the cycling podcasts feminine. Brought to you by Skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling, one race one scientist at a time. This is our time. Today, we're in Ken psychopath. On their off the, the Kevin stunning around for quite a while. They're didn't they before the writers rolled off, for stage, two of the energy women's third. Is going to be a really interesting state. We're gonna see quite a bit. Yeah. For once we see the home fake. One and a half hours, the IT highlights tonight I can have often our, you're gonna see we'll end raising tonight. So that's. It's. Before her was, was manly. I'm rich this stage to podcast from different because we're gonna record. That's the stage goes on. And then we're gonna halt food handling. Actually near Hanley knots. Right. And then we're going to hear the story of the stage properly in the final won't be the theme tonight. Tonight as Charles Dickens, because it's seconds country grieves, and where we aren't moment featured. Wall again cover phase. So it's going to be a mixture of perhaps charge titles or famous quotes. I'll try to make this slightly easier Sola fear references last night. I said a hard challenge, but suit tonight, I'll try to make it a little bit simpler. But yet where? We're. Last night's competition. At least we're going to run on everything. Yeah, I was here this morning, writing, and Cyclope. You're saying hotel, just along the roads along the eight two. Hotel the bathroom. Just on the AT and take a quarter rights, the nineteen eighty s. But this place is he's a great facilities BMX park in the middle there on the, the cycle circuit is really nice. It's a it's a lovely surface. It's, it's quite technical quite twisting is gonna force aggressive racing day because it's quite narrow. Right. Isn't gonna sprint the coroner's if it's going to definitely gonna be splits. It could be quite aboard sage although it's a short sage. What about this? Because you actually when I did a wreck key this morning on this track. And so how technical twisty was who was interesting Lingle out last night. A whole two kilometer, right? This, this is interesting is also logistically, everything is different because instead of having following cars, we've go pitstops around hand up in hearings for some right? Bike scattered across the course so that could be really serious someone's GCE hoax, if they don't happen to be nearby if they have a punch or something. So it's the dynamics of this stage is going to be really different from anything we've seen in the witness topa, full well, the fact that there's a mixture of experience in recent experience of the guards reacing within the peleton, shoot make for a very interesting. Dynamic minutes Huntington Ave Parkinson, and she thinks it's going to be quite a lot of Archie bar J in the bunch of people jostling for position cycling terms. It is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That Sydney tightening encyclopedia and Bart fast, all park. Valkenburg says that this is actually very like a Dutch Chris in particular. So he takes bulls dole will be very strong again today, which is interesting were strong yesterday. I spoke to the, the writer who won. Yes, it is. In the green jersey will receive a you'll endure before the she'd been around the circuit this was. About thirty minutes before the start. I was surprised that, that appeal. Right. Is where I look into sockets son web Menton skull canyon about few, the writers, left, it very late. They were warming up on troubleshooters instead, and Tim Harris was kind of scratching his head because he felt the that really studying the Sarkic closely properly was probably more important than more male. But let's hear from you'll endure and then from Lisa Brenner, who was third on stage, one effort, w quite unusual states today. What what do you expect to happen today? Yeah. It says it's a critic day and it's going to be false from the start. It's going to be very aggressive phrase. I think so it's a matter for us to beat her from then the to be in a break lace and, and then you see what a sprint also have only Dixon who's very fast. So we just have to talk. Have you been around the Sarka already? No, we're not gonna check it out right now. It's a cycle. Circuses quite is quite technical. I mean it's not something that you. Enjoy your a good trot writers, all of joy, the, the sort of ten classmates. Enjoyed actually, the whole theme enjoys it be like some technical stuff. So looking forward to today than yesterday, strong writer. You pleased with that. Yeah, definitely I was happy with my third place and felt pretty good in the sprint. And I haven't done that many a bunch sprints this year. So still some things that I can do better. And maybe there's going to be another chance this week. I would be happy today on usual stage verse. What, what do you expect to happen in this in this stage? I mean, we have had some cities, circa city centres, circuit race already in the women's so before, and it was always super fast and FU gas from the star. So that's kind of what I expect from today's rice really fast, race and lots of attacks. And it's going to be so quick short essays by goes really important one for juicy writers. Yeah. Definitely. I think so. I mean also on the stage lots of seconds to grab, and I think maybe. You cannot win the tour in today's stage, but you can definitely kinda lose it. And so I think everybody has to be really paying good attention and be well positioned in front and to the act, keep the overview and be in the race. Yes. Two. Puma British champ and but from a long time ago and she was saying that being back here is kind of like going back into the past back into the crit racing, which a lot of these writers would have done this coming up through the ranks. So this is what she had to say about today stage how your purchase creek, I'm here. Can you tell us Mel this was years ago about this, how it's different from other criteria that you have in the U K or in the US? Yeah. I mean, I think it's great. It's a venue that's us a lot youth racing and grassroots. And I think that's really important for them to see that. We're going to be racing around while the professional women's Paladin. Yeah. It's going to take me back these definitely feel like I'm under sixteen again, you know, one of the youth races. And everyone rooming up is not used to seeing people coming up before race by think is going to be a really great stage in a good addition to the to the women's tour and what did you make of you've been out on the circuit? Or if you raised here before ever ridden hair? What did you make when you did you record? Yeah. I've never she raised I think it was just disaster. I tend to genius in. Yeah. Went on Stephen, I guess, so. Yeah, we've just done a few drops of it, and it's, it's to be pretty hot. Actually that some of the coinage are tied to the new, you think and then especially the drug to the finish line, as well as I mean, it's going to be sixty five K I think of just full gas racing. And how different tactics as a team to be, or do you know who you writing for, or is it a lot more scattered on. When you get out there, we've still plow go into the race like is enormous stage, but I mean, not having a convoy not having lops as well, which he would get into Chris is, yes, gonna very few is in the cause maybe visit few crashes, we've, we've planned five of our own around the round where we've got six bikes. Got it around the course. So he has said stuff from got radios and phys. Problem. Yeah. You have is the closest for like you didn't for the bike that we take, I guess, but yeah, I said, it's gonna be really, really cool. I think in, yes. Can a few ride is gonna love it. And if you're gonna hate to, I think. Mom. I love you too. Yeah. The fastest clothing in the world tour, the home of cycling with character ride 'em watch with rather in twenty nineteen as they partner e f -education fast and canyons ram. I really love my rough up shot because they have the best fits individual fits, and I have a good feeling. I can remember I guess Llamas at once. 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Does your description just really pants such a vivid picture in the minds? I it's beautiful he corners, and then up and done. And then runs and yeah it is. It is. It is. Yeah, but we do in the sun shining, a beautiful spot for world. Look people. No no flow hunting in the boat race. Yeah, it's a little bit. But if. True. So it earlier it was a bit of a truce at the moment, it does seem like that. I mean they put in the efforts in when it comes up to an intermediate sprint getting like a two hundred meter effort. Belemnites been very quiet. Eligible Jeannie went off the front earlier. But was eventually pulled back. But that was quite nice to see someone to come to showing themselves trying to do something that team and Hannah bond said earlier that the team had quite a plan for today. So that will be I'm sure that'd be that with that was doing what they wanted to do doubt it because not much came of. It did it really actually is off the back to be honest with a few writers, you know, frittering off and being pulled off when they get lapsed strategy because if you get locked you get able to start the next day. But yeah, I was running a little group before that as well, loss long and not suggested that canyon Schramm we're going to try and be quite aggressive. And I said the circuit lends itself to aggressive racing. It does. But no. If. There. Sorry, coasting around a big group has they are at the moment. I mean it's not strong. I it's no people aren't sprinting. The coroner's actually movement Paseo, one of the climbers in the world is has been up in the first three or four, there's all day was just tells you think the kind of pace at is being and. I think it's disappointing because there's a big crowd, here on this circuit is setup for of unaggressive race only over only you on there and a half. So I hope we see of action in the second half of the race. This is when we talk about exciting racing and the design, of course, and the par- core last year, we, we cold for a more exciting route. We've got it this year. This is a brilliant stage is a brilliant platform for an exciting Rhys annoy. It's up to the writers to raise it that way. And the problem is I guess you've got competing interests in the only interested really matters in the mid of that bunches who's going to win and keeping your race on Beijing's alive for the whole of the sex as however, for the sport, what you really need today as super aggressive. She lots of breakaways and brought back, again, you need people riding with heart and passion, and not being so calculated because this is where you got that shukei as to be able to bring television more television to the sport to bring more. Fans to the sports, bring more sponsors to the sport. And ultimately that has to be weighed up in some way or other. I know where that decision has to come from whether it's from into the DS or the sponsors or from the race organizers. But today if we see this kind of racing the next what is it twelve laps or whatever then it's a really wasted opportunity. And I hit to say that because he ever wins today will avert their, their win and, and all the rest of it. But this is where you know if you're starting here phenomena, half you got your skill kids out. You've got families, you've taken the day here. If you don't see anything that really sparks at interests and not as a wasted opportunity, we have had an intermediate sprint, Mariana voice walnut. Lizzy Diagne, second Corrina, VERA, third. Cycling at the front nine and, and this is the first lap really where we haven't seen canyon tram, the front bulls, almonds and track, and son, went to my mind bits. Disappointing. I guess I am. I mean, this is the kind, of course, that I would've expected Corrina VERA to really thrive in possibly, and probably, they're saving all of that for the end of the rest. But again, you know, it's whether we're seeing a lot of self neutralization for an expected finale to something, whether that be the days, the weeks reacing that doesn't make for grit. Spectator event was also kinda surprising. It's really short race. Today is sure it, it's starts started very late. Anything that, you know, people have plenty of time to rest up and be prepared to come out all guns blazing. And they will warming up one day all women up outside their buses this one, I thought they were going to really hit it not running cycling overstate, but really do some preparation. We've been, we haven't seen anything at hopefully when they come back, they just outside the moment when they come back over the small rise there. Hopefully, we'll see virtue cycling looking to do something because they I mean they look like they were gathering at the front. Hopefully that will come to fruition. She'd say that, as you said, rose. We have seen some writer spot at the back, and this is probably the kind of day where anyone who's involved in the race listens. Back and things Hyang on a minute. You've new idea brittle walls out there. But I think it is important that fans perspective is also given from fans point if you, it's not a dynamic race no matter how hard it is in the middle of all of that. But like I say, you know, how does that issue become resolved not see the question. Ken psych the part on here. We are. How long does the circuit? Did we say Kate? Okay, how many laps are we going to the bondage? We can probably. Other so three twenty at least three of think. Peaceful, peaceful Sunday, and a nice pedal here, only this really track cycle network from fell on the edge of Gravesend and the very lucky with relic forecasts. They was terrible. But let's, let's go and have looked at this circuit show. We hope they let us on. We did a lot there and then to fight your way back onto circa almost kicked off because they're still building the well up the barriers, and face hoardings and stuff. But it's I really like it. So really smooth surface. Quite twist, the vic- raced before on motoracing circuit and it's kinda like a miniature motoring circuit designed for cycling because more racing circuits are designed for cycling on the corners just a work on a bike, and the, the hills are deceptively tough as well. But this is really, really lovely. Well, it's no reading. So that's a hypothetical. I'm. Ford seeing what happens here aggressive race. I don't think. Hi, I'm Sarah story. I'm they academy principal, this, go to cycling academy. 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And also, they knew HUD to upload conjoined Strabag club, the Skoda Cubbon Travis. So that's what I did. But my rights in public, here we are today. To school for support in cycling podcast feminine. We heard a little clip there from the school academy induction, the a couple of days ago. Lionel Bernie was there and spoke with some of the people involved in that. So we'll hear clips from that for the rest of the women's tour and beyond. And before that we heard a little bit from my bike ride with Tom Kerry of the telegraph this morning. I just have a sneaking suspicion. We would never have heard this little snippet from your ride with Tom Kerry, this morning on last Mariana, Mariana voice had one. Yeah. Because as soon as she won today's at that's what I said this morning. I going to be like, did you though? Right. Mortified would have disappeared. Saying about fifteen different meetings. Are we know our love? Oh, we are in Hamilton near Hanley we're officially the poor stage. Really the night before. We're in very portion this lovely isn't that. And this is where Midsomer murders is filmed. We found out so Huntsman pub where we're staying and we, we made a sharp PEX. Didn't we offense graves end? You can't say that we'll know we wanted to get here. It was gonna be a lovely evening and refined you're so young very nice indeed. And as you said, mine spoiler alert Marietta, vaults, with the stage. Have you got story of the stage shit? I announce the winners of yesterday's spot. They John winless reference of winners, because actually, nobody got it entirely right? But it could be argued that I didn't get it entirely right either because the two one that I've gone for went to an awful lot of effort and spotted songs that I hadn't even intended to put in there. They got the closest to my intended seventeen so congratulations to needed Godfrey, and Ian Hayward. So let you know what the songs were very quickly intaking by dub honor can UK. Good vibrations, teenage kicks common people happy cycling, groovy feeling thickest thieves mines and energy, this, while darkness wonder brass neck, whiskey in the jar loves the drug spooky. Loss for life. And when Saturday comes so they were all references yesterday. And today as we said earlier, we are doing Charles Dickens references, aren't we. You are. Started that. Okay. Well, we did have great expectations for the state's today. Bought alas the old curiosity. Shop of life doesn't always offer its finest wears stage races. Of course, usually a tale of two cities. It took place in one location. Today, the cycler park and can't twenty five laps of a two and a half kilometer circuit and won't survive was lapped interestingly, they were taken off the rea- so hard times for anyone couldn't keep the pace allu-. They weren't eliminated. They still get to start the race again tomorrow. But the first rider dropped was Hannah Peyton of drop. So for the best of times, it was the worst times for our mutual friend Varney, and this reassume far after Abby may Parkinson's yesterday. I was born of Kenyan straw, mid an early attack. Ellen Van Dyke of trek Sega Fratto, and the current of teams son web led the chase. And she was brought back after just two and a half kilometer front and another attack at twelve kilometers, this time it was pictures from Italy with Elena Cecchini again, of Kenyan, Schramm her break lasted slightly longer getting elite of thirty seconds at what point with Sulu break lasting. Ten kilometers other than that, it was only really the intermediate sprints that broke up the stage, so I'll run you three. Those Mayan voice took the first sprint ahead of Lizzie. Diagne foreshadowing the finish with the coroner. Vera in third. The second intermediate sprint was taken by Sheila Guiterrez. He's had a great showing in the sprint so far corner of Eric continuing her tactic of suiting up as many sprint points as possible with Sufia solo in third and the final sprint went to Rivera's team it. Leeann Lippard of teams on web Lizzy diagnosed second again and her team, it Eliza longer, Guinea, in third knife, any team had been hoping to push this Rhys from the front. Well, it turned out that procrastination is the thief of time. And in the end it came down to a bunch sprint finish. Mariana Voss winning comfortably in the end ahead of Diagne Unser ROY of Mitchelson Scott with Corrina VERA in fourth. We only discovered afterwards, that boss actually punctured during the stage and it turns out that it happened just the rice ball because the renew callers. And the rich today, I think we meant to not already to the writers. Hud to go into the pits along the route. She was able to pit fairly quickly. Get ourselves back in the race again. And see what the end of stage to voice. No takes over the race lead ahead of Lizzie Diagne with Bullmann's Amy Peters in third ahead of last year's winner. Coren rivera. I'm three the points jersey. We have Yuli endure Queen of the mountains Christine Majerus sprints jersey is still on Corrina Veras back on the best. British writer is nine Lizzy Deichmann is your rapid story. The stage to the stomachache finish in the end was she? Cycling forty second thing. Good. Good. Right. Well, that was nice for that Orla identifying. Competition comes as night, especially giving away two prizes on the first night, you can't discourage people Marna Voss though, you're on a mention you got to mention in the podcast glory wash by because Las year stage to into dive and trade. You remember mine of us just missed out to Carnivora, which really established overseer patron that wasn't broken Rivera held the lead all the way. And she was in tears. Upset lose very narrowly. And she just misjudge that when she got this one, just right. It was it was upon sprint, but she went very early. There was a climb up in the final five hundred meters and she caught them by surprise. And she won by quite a few bike, clangs speaking tire dad very briefly afterwards. He said it was hailed Moya beautiful win. And it was beautiful when she timed it to perfection as lovely, I love the way that her family, just travel around in the combine with the cast. Meet the cats. No just the chat to him this morning. So the her brother here as well. He's talk refer, but yeah, so it's a lovely day for the voice family, really. Really a very strong position. I mean, she's obviously writing. Well, she's caught strong team with her with movement, Paseo as well for these tough stages to come. And yes, she looks to be a very strong position thing. Oh, she is. I mean, also the five that she's going into media sprints as well. It wasn't the most kind of we covered didn't I mean, Jessica stage. Was it speaking to some of the writers after did you feel like we've been a little bit hard on the race watching from the sidelines? And an you know, lamenting the fact that there weren't more attacks. No, I mean. Yeah. As a spectator. See that is, that's what you want to see you want to see it all broken up, and my mom and dad with that today. And I was much my mom admires the pretty colors of the jerseys. My dad, you know once. Food prove his cycling, chops by saying, you know, you know, someone should have got away or should have been more. I should have been broken up more. I'm not as what funds one but actually, you have to say it's testament to the incredible job that trick was always at the front posed omens Roy's at the front, and it was kind of testament to the they were trying to keep it all together like that. They were twin race it hard and very forced make it very difficult for everyone anyone to get away and Kenyans round with only team that managed to get any distance tool through the whole the whole race the all those from speaking to the writers, and we sort of preempted this when we were when we were lamenting, the lack of action, mid Rhys it was probably very hard stage to reassess anyway. And it's probably very difficult to get off the front. And that was confirmed by speaking to the writers as we were saying on the way here if it was a much harder more writers have been shelled off the Bank. I think, and so what it might have been a really tough. For an hour and a half. I didn't think it I don't know. It's, it's very difficult to say as a fan, you cannot help, but want to see more action, and I think that's justifiable really, because, you know, we talk about bringing more money into sport. More television into the sport. But we need a spanked ago, we didn't get that today on the question is open as to whether that's because it was raised whether it's because as well here in a little bit from Donnie stem, and the DSO of bulls. Dolan's weather, it's because these are longer because they're harder a lot of the racing neutralize whose responsibility is it to make the races exciting aghast? I have to say the I mean, the g C is exciting because und- fair. Yes, I voice voice is leading. And then it's Lizzie dying man. And Amy Peters, nine seconds back both of them. And thighs exerting because voice has been going for the intermediate sprints la- time. So she took up took three seconds on the first intermediate sprint by winning that. And that kind of shows. You Voces intention for this race. She's not just happy to have sage when she is of a former champion here at this raise the first Trump in this race. And she wants to give it all she's got by taking just a few seconds here, and the and actually build up quite a, you know, a good lead on four now. So very good day for Lizzie than who has oversea been coming back from having her first baby. And this was the first time she finished on the podium. She got the jersey for best, British writer and she was third on the stage. She was second, I'm confused because I remember, it's introduc- ROY as well. Who was third? So we'll hear first from Lucy dyke. And then, from CEO, ROY. Best, British jersey. But how was out? They seem to be well track for a law at the front including. Yeah. I think that's the way to write racist. I mean you've got celebrate Alabama corner wherever you are. And if you're the front and then you just have to break that little bit lesson. It's kind of the opposite of what you're told, you know, you told to conserve energy stay in the peleton hide in the peleton actually writing at the for his the mice concepts of way to ride on the site today. So, yeah, we, we really well as a team you guys riding so, well, probably. Probably wasn't as much excitement for firms watching. So one so many breakaways but just tell us about how intense and hard. The race actually was it wasn't like you guys were cruising around this course, absolutely. No. It was heard fighting position the whole time. Like I say, accelerating of every Kona actually we would have been happy for breakway. But I'll say it's just the right combination needs to work and Ellen's in top shape. At least top shaven, we kind of have fair anything with either today. But in the end it went to the spring. Surprisingly, we're very happy. How great is it to be having the great the best, British writer to the on race wedding, which should have been your first race back after pregnancy? Yeah. You know, actually this is the first podium. I've had since for tenant, and feels really special. Yeah, it's not a win, but it feels like to be on, and British cycling intensive the women at the moment is really growing so to still. Able to pull him not jersey. As he for me. So yeah, really tired of that. Really happy with that Greek improvement in China, where come finishes for a little while and haven't had much luck or. Yeah. Haven't really noticed. So go to couple of took tens and yes. Get sort of like a per diem is really good. Great view of the finish their mind Voss of a guy who like did she jump up early? She started her spring before anybody else, and she came from behind with a bit more spades. So that was sort of what I was aiming to do, but felt her on my hip just photo bit that just made me hesitate a little bit. But yes, she definitely got the tactics right today in unusual half of the middle of a centuries. Watching it. Luke quite controlling. I don't mean I mean, I know it was fast but, you know, the weren't many breaks off the front. What did it feel like in in the race? Yeah. I think to begin with, it was a little, it was a little bit stop-start will with some people trying to have a Gulf the front. But just the type of sick at that is and Merced, you know, purpose built cycling circuits are pretty fast and flow e so it's a bit too hard for anybody to get away. So in the end, it did it did seem control. I mean being in the bunch it was it was pretty hard. It's hard to hold your position and the corners, you know, you could almost pedal through them. But if you wanted to great spot, then you had to break and sprint and break and sprint Olaf. It was a really tough rice. And I think it is to have a in the middle of stage race, but it's kind of coke you draw some crowds, and it's something different, isn't it? See we being asking yourselves. Really why the race wars reaced as it was today and whether it was a case of the writers teams south neutralizing, as I'm not calling it a head of tough stages to come or whether it was simply possible to get off the front. Curious as to what the is thought about that. So I cornered Donnie stem of bulls Dolan's after the race. We look to the course earlier and I think a lot of people maybe expected that there would be more tax off the front that it could have splintered the risk quite a bit. And we didn't quite see that. Why do you think that was? Actually, to be honest. I was directly thinking, it was not hot enough to split it up. It's should be possible in its rain or wind and the conditions pretty well. And the corners are not that, that steep that you need to really break down completely so. Yeah, it's, it's high speed independent, and it's pretty difficult to really split it up. And I think also the most of the teams who are waiting for Ben sprinting. That's case. Yeah. And then the rice is not hot enough. I think they should be totally different than it was raining. When you say not hard enough fought would have made this course it's specifically harder other than the weather would've been distance longer drags. What would what would have split it up? Do think I think it's the states ration- in every state's rights belongs from states. What is dead, heart? And there are states is, what is extremely hot and nothing is perfect in the in. States raise him. I don't think we need to shoot for, for everyday extremely hard races. And until could that we have a day like this. Do you think that the that the race against was almost neutralized sin extent and expectation of a bunch sprint finish? Yeah. I think everybody was expecting that from riders. Vice. Yeah. Cheat. So what about the days to come? Then if you looking purely the power core. What kind of racing we can expect tomorrow? For example, we've got to categorize climbs coming here the start of the race. What kind of a race you think we can expect is found as spectators tomorrow? A finger general riders can probably make it hot in, in the beginning of the race to get rid of the sprinters, but it's also pretty along to comeback, so think not tomorrow. But today's after then when three days counting from lung racist, travelling at say that say dry, then Bill for show, they'll be splitting up. Good thing that they've made this race longer. And they say harder than ever before. Because we still last year that a lot of the r- seemed to being neutralize, if you like an expectation of the final stage because it was billed as such a tough stage is a range of building. It's too much is being a difficult race. And then we saying for, you know, an expected climate. We only can say after race you can see that in my opinion yesterday. Everybody was little bit afraid to raise because okay, what is coming? It's still five six days to go coming hard day show. Yeah. We not rise to accuracy from that point. But yeah, I mean if the organization decide to make longer I'm bigger than I think it's a good point for the for the women's cycling that for sure. But I don't think it makes the racing more attractive. And I think the last couple of days when everybody knows position, then we will get more ration-. Citing podcast Fendi now is supported by science in sport. Science in sport few why signs, thank you very much to scientists sport for support things, slightly and has Femina you can get twenty five percent off. Oh, you're going to just song tonight. I think rose. Twenty five percent of all your products signs of sports come with the code SIS see between five. SIS's between any, I've see between five SU thirty five SIS. See paternity source. Are you going? Crystal Palace, John. It is fun. It's normally where the boys from SE twenty five. We'll get you twenty five percent of the SIS, CPA twenty-five will will. We're doing press conference at the end of the week. Please send a voice memo to the number plus for four seven nine seven one three three eight two five plus four four seven nine seven one three three eight two five. Please send any questions and we'll get right into them towards the end of the week. And all we had high expectations great expectations. Son web to the Conrad defending champion you spoke to one of her teammates of the finish. This is on Anderson. He had a good race yesterday and asked her about the team tactics for coronated weather. They were happy enough with their showing and also just why we didn't see more time off the front here is understand, unusual stage. Really for the women's two. Did you make of it? The best. Criticize pretty unusual and soci- different than normal bike race. But yeah, I always find it super hard. Yeah. Also girls who really likes it. And this is definitely not my thing, and we had a hard time with the team, but we tried everything. And yeah. And then it's also I mean you have to be destroyed I and also could lead out and a bit of luck with this kind of races. And yeah this. So what we have I spoke to bar. They DSL of Parkway, tell this morning. And he said he thought it was very much like a Dutch crit-. What makes it credit risk different to any others? But did you think that? Maybe a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. We have in a summary of some serious. But then the bunch is much smaller, so it's different. Yeah, critter always really hard because you have to sprint every corner, and after four and are, so it's actually a whole day sprinting. So sixty case more than enough. Bulls seem to be doing a lot of work goal in the front, where you hopeful of a stage win for the team today or was it a as much about staying safe for the racing to come? Well, in this kind of phrase, you have to stay because if you're in the backyard super Hartung Bostick few lep. So the plan was to stay together, but it's also pretty hard. And you saw effort team was struggling with that to stay together and being from. But yeah, we did our best. And we try to be as much as possible. There was on the team son web, I also spoke to from strong because they were the only team really to, to try something today to bonds in early move, and then cheeky spoke to their, the runny Lanka, who. Who liked the stage of law and thought had great potential one that if in the future, it'd be better off putting a bit lethal into the race because he felt the the writers were solve apprehensive about the stages to come. It's funny because it's usually the criterion sages using the loss stage when the racist decided, and it can be fast and furious and aggressive and so on. And this one felt like people were hedging their. I mean, you know, the writers all said it was really hard and fast. And, and it was difficult to tack because the pace was was very high. But as a spectacle, it lacked excitement, frankly, because you want to see people attacking going off the front being caught, and that didn't really happen. It did it was a group writing allbeit very fast. And I, I suppose Alice Barnes, you spoke rose to Elliott Cini let's hear from both booth, I our sponsors, and then Elliott cheating, how to go early on. There was just spontaneous. Or did you have any, I'm Bishen sir? Yeah, it was cutting big Hardaway most critically usually for five minutes. And I think the last one I did. The Smith of Nocturne when I won. So say maybe I was going for. But maybe two I'm bishops just. Yeah. Went on the corner, quite gap, so just carried on. But he, I think we have to gap in think some weapon came across and we had a Bose maybe would have been a bit of a break, but we didn't nNcholas box. Yeah. It was real tough race went for the first into media as well. And after that, I paid for my efforts and. Once the drifted to the back really hard to back up, so. Yeah, it was a tough rice. What's. What was what was it like inside? It is, I guess, from the side, that looked like it was quite controlled by writers say, hi foster was is on how it felt to you as well. Really fast and I think I'm just my average rose engine seventeen bucks. Two hundred six so, yeah, it wasn't an easy REIs, and it was just see performance. And it was never letting up when it did. It was kind of still to move up this go, so, yeah, I think it brings a new spectacled to the rice, and yeah, I think no one knew what to expect. I think I've found a pretty tough. Maybe savior attack for bet layer in the race. Tell us about how the stage when Kenyans seem to be attacking all the time and the other teams would perhaps a bit more reluctant to let you go. Yeah. You know, like we, we weren't expecting like her stage on the bikes. Very different from yesterday. You go from one hundred sixty case CK's guest, so was quite a shock to the system for me. Yeah, I didn't plan to do any attack, but they just count the good moment, and they say, why not no one follow me. So that was, I would say side attack about. Yeah. If you never try you never know I'm peace now in this clean forties. Never nice. But it is our tease and we keep on fighting and tomorrow's another day for more chance. So, yeah, let's see what was the team told around this morning, because, you know, Alice bonds went off was all about attacking motivating the race. No. We had leased today. Hey as designers sprinter, but she was not feeding her best race. So we change about plan. And yeah, we decided to spring for me. And I was like. That attack that me may hurt in my legs. But Indian I was quite powerful as well. So that means I'm good Shaef, and give me confidence for the next stages. And yeah. Now it's all about recovery because I think tomorrow is going to be serious. So let's the game starts. So as we look to the postage tomorrow from our Porsche conversation. Is it? It's nice. It's very nice, isn't it only village? This isn't love high say, we've got we've got MSN beside his hair, and she's a local, and I love high and by her standards, it's just nice. I commend I was like ooh. She's very Porsche. Obviously, this for grunts, very much the stage to kind of gal. Yard. Yeah. Well, I'm looking forward to tomorrow. It's, it's an odd proof of two tough climbs at the star of the state, but really they're on a category. One climb there, nothing's gonna happen. It'll be nice to see those are the KIRO M. So that will be nice to see how competition. I mean, you know, the having those climbs it'd be decisive stage but it'd be nice on last week. So another Cassini via Duma. You never know you never notice the unpredictability of it, but it'd be nice as who is in the running for that cure him competition because I mean, that's you know, we know the sun web of really a role in for that spins competition. So who wants the Skoda cure him? He wants that showed Kyo jersey. All right. Well, we'll look forward to that, and mice stage tomorrow and we'll be by tomorrow night with another podcast from state three. So thank you very much rose. Oh, yes. La. You're listening to the podcast feminine. Brought to you by Skoda dedicated to closing the gender gap in cycling, one race one cyclist at a time. This is our time.
The chief justice's long game
"Today's episode is sponsored by Goldman Sachs. Good Morning. Welcome to axios today, and thankfully we've made it ten other Friday it's still I. I'm Nyla Boudou, and here's how we're making you smarter this morning. Air travel is facing its greatest crisis and sports teams across the globe are taking these but I the long game of chief justice. John Roberts is today's one big thing. Supreme. Court, Chief Justice John Roberts is not the revolutionary conservatives. Want him to be yesterday. The court ended its term with the ruling against president trump who now has to release his financial records Sam. Baker is our resident axios Skoda's expert and he's here to help us get inside the mind of John Roberts. Even though he is citing with liberals in these cases, he has not moving the law to the left. Left, but he is exercising his power as the chief justice to move things in a more conservative direction at the pace that he wants and sort of in the way that he thinks they should get their. What's an example of that of how he's moving the court to the right style, so I think a really good example of this dynamic is the abortion case that the court decided just here at the. The end of this term your argument this morning case eighteen, thirteen, twenty three June, medical services versus Russo MR chief justice, and may it please the court? This case is about respect for the court's precedent. The court a decided just a few years ago, Texas had gone too far with some of its abortion restrictions Louisiana past basically the same thing, and that came back to the court and Robert said we are. Are Not. GonNa overturn our precedent, so no Louisiana loses. That was a ruling with the Liberals, but it just keeps the status quo in place. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't expand abortion rights beyond where they were. You know a year ago. What it would be wrong for people to look at what chief justice. Roberts has done this term and say he's on the side of liberals in the fifteen years. That John! Roberts has been the chief justice. The law has moved to the right on almost every issue. The big exception would be same sex marriage. The balance of robbers leadership is a move in a more conservative direction, and however long he has left I'm confident that at the end of that the balance will continue to be a conservative direction. Sam, I wonder what you think. The John Roberts view is of how the court should operate. I think the Roberts view is that the court should in most cases try to do? As little as possible while still resolving the questions before it, so if you can deal with an issue without for example striking down a whole federal law. Usually, that's the way he wants to go, so he has a sort of minimalism in his approach. There are some really huge exceptions to that by voting rights is a big one where he is willing to take a much bigger swing to federal law, but in maybe eight cases out of ten I would say he tries to sort of move incrementally and cautiously soon as we're wrapping up this term, and you're looking back on it. I wonder what we've learned about Chief Justice Roberts. This term that we think is important for the future. We are learning more about what the idiosyncrasies are of John Roberts which tells you where the law is headed? I, mean the supreme. Court is the final say on almost any political issue of any consequence and so unpacking. All of that is really the only way to understand the law of the land. Is Our resident axios Skoda's expert. We'll be back in fifteen seconds with the crisis inside the airline initiative. Cove nineteen is changing markets, industries and the global economy. You can hear the latest insights from Goldman Sachs experts and thought leaders at GS. Dot Com slash covid nineteen or on any of your favorite podcast platforms. The airline industry had hoped to start recovering this summer from the effects of the pandemic, but this week many airlines instead signaled dire warnings to their employees. axios transportation correspondent Joann Muller has been following this closely. Everyone knew when this crisis hit that it was going to be a long haul to. But there had been some signs that leisure travelers were coming back this summer, but the recent spiking cases in the sunbelt has really put an end to any hopes of a modest recovery. So this is the week where airlines are sending these really grim letters. We saw one yesterday from Delta and one earlier in the week from united. What are they saying? Well? What they're doing is prepping employees for the very high likelihood that they're going to be laid off. United said given the recent resurgence of covid nineteen cases across the country. country. It's increasingly likely that travel demand will not return to normal until there is a widely available treatment or vaccine and I think that's pretty significant that they're saying. Passengers really won't be returning to the skies until there's a vaccine and that could be a long time. Do we have a sense of how many airline employees are out of work right now? The government is supporting the payroll for the airlines, so many are actually still collecting a paycheck, but that all runs out at the end of September and that's why you saw. Saw It united, airlines, warning employees that thirty six thousand people, which is almost half their company would potentially be laid off come. October First Soochow win. Were you watching Foreign September? What do you think's going to happen? Well unless Congress decides? They're GONNA put more money into the airline industry and I kind of doubt that we will see very big layoffs we will see the airlines get a lot smaller and for consumers that means that there will be more people on each flight, and that makes people uncomfortable the idea of holding that. That middle seat open can't last forever and airlines are working really hard right now. In a tell people, it is safe to fly. You know a lot of people worry about whether the air is safe on an airplane, and it actually is pretty safe. Even the health experts at the CDC say so and every few minutes the air is recirculated and it's clean and they've got HEP filters and so forth, but if you're squish shoulder to shoulder with somebody who sick on a long flight, that doesn't really mean a whole lot. Joann Muller writes the weekly navigate newsletter for axios. The big picture for the Airlines is that the economic impact from the virus is far from over in until there's viable treatment we can expect more layoffs, fewer flights and companies that may not survive. Long long time since felt hot any on the international arena. On getting a bit more action, no with all the players taking a knee in their first game back cricket players from England in the West indies kneeled in support of black lives matter what started as an American movement has gone global. But how much change can this really cause Kendall Baker is our sports editor. Sixty eight is probably the last time we saw it. It on a global scale just because it was happening at the Olympics but I think now sports, itself is more global whether it's leagues like the NBA in terms of their talent base, whether it's the way people consume sports in kindle I wonder also if we'll see more changes within the sport, or if you see the broader impacts, being more, societal or cultural. Within the individual sports themselves, there's obviously in cases of systemic racism I think though largely a lot of this is a societal issue and almost outside sports I don't think the NBA players for instance are protesting. The League sports presents a unique platform when it comes to games when it comes to kneeling for the national anthem, you have this concept of a team I think that's more impactful than just those individual players isolated home tweeting things out posting stories so i. think that's what's going to be interesting to me to see. Play out as the NBA returns and mls obviously back now as the power behind some of the statements, teams and leagues is a whole are going to make. Kendall Baker writes a daily sports newsletter for axios. It's time for our weekly Hamilton. Segment just kidding, but before we start the weekend, I wanted to spread some joy with this incredible Corona Virus Hamilton remains kiss masks. Away this mask, this building should be bipartisan. 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Bonus: Our Global Initiation | Part Three
"You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and contemplation to learn more visit. Cdc Dot Org. Well I suppose to get started. Let's take a look at where we left off. We went through two of the the hopeful resurrection sides of of the initiation rites. That you you've shared with Richard and now we're going to dive into the third one which is It is true that your life is not about you. It's hard one rather your life is hidden with Christ in God he is your life and when he is revealed you will be revealed in all your glory with him and that comes from. Colossians three four so as we look at this hopeful resurrection aspect of this third initiation. That our lives are not about us. You talk about How our life being hidden with Christ invites us into a shift into our true being rather than the false trappings of who we attach ourselves to be and are doing in terms of how we identify or how we like to build up our ego or personality as I was just sharing the my own attachment to these things that I was doing was helping me. A few about myself So this time of quarantine has brought so much of this to bear for so many of us and we're facing such a sense of radical uncertainty of. How long will this last and you know what about my job How does contemplation help us in this process of rewiring to a different Self Hood Hidden in Christ if were faithful to a to a to practice prayer practice view just to encounters with the holy with the absolute will happen over time? Is that Our our self-created boundaries of I'm this and I'm not that I'm which is always a contradistinction we it's like. We create ourselves by making a distinction from a male not female whatever might be takes on less less importance and what falls apart. Is Our strong sense of individuality our individualism. Maybe that's the Mar- negative word. I'm not sure how you use it and I know both of you have heard me say that. I believe the the The individualization of the Gospel Message. Perhaps more than anything else has been done. It so let me come now back at it this way in some starting with you know Dulling of the individual and then try to fit him or her into the collective. I think a mystic starts with the union collective this is the wave of of reality and history and then finds itself there as part of it as a increasingly willing participants So the burden is on the individual anymore to do it right or to carry guilt when it's done it wrong that's why the mystic is joyful or the consecutive is joyful whereas when you're agonizing about your own moral perfection your own moral bank accounts your own Your you never make it. You just never make. You're you're always moving into various forms of denial whereas when you have nothing to prove anymore I just you've heard me say this. I'm sure you to her sick a book that I am who I am. I am and I might keep trying to do it with greater love. But I'm not gonNA spend a lot of time protecting these ego boundaries of this South Call Richard and making people like me and making people want me so instead of my life is about me what have I done with it. I'm about life. Life is the big category. And I'm one little instance of it taking my part in the great parade a after nature shows. I think I like history shows best and every time you see one recognized all those people are gone and that's going to get us in the next one. I guess they're all gone gone. Gone Where did they go? Well my understanding is they re entered the body of Christ as one little finger. If you WANNA you know materialize it not the whole body. None of us the whole body. Not Suppose trying to say the I cannot say the foot I need you know I need you. Were gifts in. You need my gifts. And that's a collective view of reality and I think initiation freeze you to not need to build up the individual self. I'm not against clearly. Not Against Self awareness or self development are self education. The notice in all three of those is the same word self It's far too much self and what we got to get. People on is a path of reality being done in them through them with them as them and it just allows you take yourself much less seriously and be natural incentive perfect natural instead of perfect and I don't mean natural in an outrageous way like you forge. Try to be at least one it. We know it's so good it's deserved. It's natural in a non Trying way yeah reason I can teach you could cause I know you understand me. Bring me back to where you really want me to go. Actually if it's okay with you Paul. I have a question that pertains to my foreignness. So since you brought it up then served on a platter. I think you have to so in this in this in this time that we're all facing together. There's obviously waved of of emotion and and recognition and awareness. That hit us all at different points in different ways and I was processing death with my best friend Recently like you do and We were noticing. How are any defaults are processing this pandemic this moment? What we're facing and she is a nine was talking about How she's trying to hold it all together and lean into her one wing and do everything perfectly. And she says if I. Just WASH IN DISINFECT. Everything and do my social distancing perfectly as long as everything perfectly rules. I'll show you well whereas there it is so whereas for me the most unique and special of all the numbers I find myself really facing my own mortality With with all kinds of feelings and the need express it artistically at every moment so many feelings and so many songs and Almost as if I just keep making art and keep finding meaning and beauty in this moment that I will hold the universe and go here. So how. How can this tenet of our life being hidden in Christ the collective body of Christ and always having been in Christ study us into a radical piece in our embrace of even Regardless of whatever number we may preference on the any grammar whatever tendencies we might have who are at the deepest. Most objective level is who we are in the mind of God now God does not have a mind but remember all spiritual languages metaphor. That's the best we can do. So we have to say in the mind of God There came together. A complex of choices. Realizations desires that became Paul. It became bree the became Richard. And all God wants is for that that to become who had already is it exists in the mind of God and according to many of our greatest mystics like John of the Cross every end done. Skoda's every one is a different representation of the terminal. Christ and Christ is an eternal. That isn't unreasonable idea. There's enough space for you. To reflect abet media reflect a bit and what is wonderful is when we are giving the is to see that in other people that you know she is this. She doesn't need to be that As a one it makes me so much less judgmental so much. Easier to accept and smile at human vagaries and and eccentricities from my vantage. That's all they ever are from my vantage point so I thought Paul used a very clever freezer hidden with Christ. It isn't obvious you have to look for after wants to honor it loves and once you can you see it once you're willing to say that's Christ that woman who otherwise would turn me off She's just a different aspect of Christ And we all are but his hidden. It isn't given To the is that don't seek or don't desire are don't want and don't pray so lot of people never get there lay put it off till what we call heaven but you and I can start now with greater or lesser success. I'm not saying you. You succeed everyday with every person but it it'll grow on you so the body of Christ is the real thing what's Goethe's to call the first idea in the mind of God was Christ to create this universal manifesting reality and everything that we look upon is part of that one manifesting reality that we call the body of God or the body of Christ but it's hidden from our eyes. Tell we go through some filters against stages whatever word you want to use. I've always loved the way that you've defined a Christian as someone who sees Christ everywhere and how that is our work is to look for Christ everywhere and how do we. How do we see the whole in particular? Are we see the whole of Christ and you know I love the way your your nuancing this in this in this tenant and how you know some folks have that impulse to try to be the whole of Chrysler to be important and the Christ is a place of humility and enough miss and in this quarantine. I know There are a lot of us whether we're parents or those who have lost work where they feel like they're not doing enough. They're not loving enough. They're not being president enough. What do you have any words of wisdom to offer in? What does it mean to be enough? When you're being about life and life is not about me to say it well You've heard me saying other contexts that when you begin to find yourself in the Kingdom of God as Jesus calls it what you what gives it away for me is when you stop counting. You've heard me say that when you stop measuring when you stop way when you stop comparing and once you say that you'll recognize how much you do compare you do way you do out. I deserve our I earned or she owes me I. It's it's like a nonstop game of spiritual capitalism and I think it's one reason it is so hard to convert a a western raised person because we're raised to think capitalistically to the core of our being it's all about weighing and measuring and counting And I'm not saying I've succeeded at it. In fact it usually has to be a failure to to succeed at it makes me re desire. I've always said what you verbally that to. My own preaching mostly to myself and. Then I'll remember Richard. You know you're counting your way you're measuring it in never brings happiness. 'cause you always come out shorts or you always exaggerate your importance on. That's called Hubris in Greek theater. Is You know I think it's also called social media what you just said What a freedom. When we don't have to think that way if we could really think on ill clad all lady sitting in the back view of church. Because she's afraid of her clothing is just as much beloved of God as the Beautiful Lady. Who's walking up the main? I'll you know that that's transformation you know if we WANNA make it practical until it gets that practical on that they're both equally images of God and in fact if we look for image and likeness. Perhaps I don't know in all cases but if we get you in all the old lady in the back Pew she might have more likeness to Christ than the Beautiful Lady. Walking up the center aisle but the image is identical in all creation. It's like the the divine stamp the copyright mark that God puts everything that God creates that's equally distributed at such a powerful invitation for those of us who are on social media. I mean I kind of said it jokingly but not really. Yeah because it's it's built on you know look at me you know. Look at the Nice things I'm doing. Look at what I'm doing for my community Look at this amazing bread. I'm baking I did that once. Actually at the start of the month I felt really good about it and then after I ate the whole loaf of bread I didn't feel so good But that that tendency that we have of comparison is so strong even now even when when? This pandemic is showing us. We're one we are in this together literally. Our experiences may not be the same and Privilege and class are definitely showing us a great divide in that experience of the pandemic but even in the experience of this virus impacting. All of us were now comparing how we're all dealing with it on social media which is not helping no and you know in US man gree- Comparing takes even more dangerous form. It's called competing that we've gotTA show that we're bigger stronger smarter better looking And I'm sure women compete too but it's it's front and center for the young male. He just doesn't know who he is less. He's winning at something. And this is taken over our politics and even our understanding of the Gospel. We had to win at holiness It's like a contradiction in terms. Your need to win. Undoes your holiness. You can't connect you can't be one with everybody else. If you need to prove that you're holier than the Presbyterians are your neighbor and there's nothing more embarrassing when you yourself and your own holiness game and you realize that your posturing and that way so we're going to transition here to our forth Redemptive hope which I'll read here. It is true that you are not in control for Canadian of you for all of your worrying at a single moment to your span of life. Luke Chapter Twelve Verse Twenty Five To Twenty. Six and I've always gravitated to that That verse I think. There's something just so poetic and singular about the the worry that we all carry with us at times and worry does it also feels like Kind of when the treasured pastimes of Western people That have the privilege to worry about the future and think through all those is my 401k. My 401k mice that my 401k is it okay currently that's a big priority in your down and that but you know there's also is not without merit to. We were fully aware as brain mentioned earlier of the inequity at play right. Now we're seeing that be revealed even more so And that each community has their own kind of worries that they're holding tightly and invited into prayer. Do you have any guidance or examples and how one might shelter a notch shelter. How one might surrender during the season of Shelter in place so that we surrender into that flow. The spirits which is as you say is that act of surrender is is is a trust that kind of releases. The worries that they're not again. Not In my control but I'm about something bigger surrendering into that flow. The spirit let me use this as a starting place. Oh I don't know that it's the best I probably should have said. At the very beginning of these five positive messages. But central to the male initiation rite was the sacred wounding of the young male. He had to be wounded now. That goes against everything we think in all and you as parents my God. You don't want your little boys or girls to be wounded in any way but this wounding was called the sacred and of course this takes full frontal truth of crucify. Jesus that even he is seemingly had to be wounded. And it's how he deals with the loom that more or less determines whether he gets it whether he gets that he's steering the ship or you can trust that. The ship is being steered for him and that he can trust that he can allow now. You know here's Rhino. Psychologists are probably turning. They're saying you don't have a healthy personality. Who doesn't take control of their life in their right but they're talking on really rather low level and say well unnecessary low level. I mean and that's what the first grade teachers second grade teacher. A high school teacher. Asante Control Your Life you. You'VE GOTTA get the homework whatever it might be. And that's true but we're talking on the level of the sole on the level of the soul. There has to be a realization that I part of a bigger signal it's bigness. Now it's depth. There's a part of me that exists at my truest deepest level and a half to learn to draw upon it to rely upon And the I don't I don't have to be willful as Gerald. May's to put it but my job is to learn how to be willing was a brilliant play between two different words and I think most cultures teach the male. If he's successful he has to be willful his to ram his way through in two on top. And there's there's a motive of truth to that for your for the little boy. Are you house no ego boundaries? But once he starts in the spiritual journey he needs a different sense of control. And he isn't doing it it is done onto him now until we cross that line. I don't think we're on a spiritual journey ron a psychological journey which is okay and since. I know both of you can eat from evangelical backgrounds. I want to say I think early. Even Djelic elitism probably taught that better than most progressive Christianity You'll have to tell me if that's true released. I hear evangelical talk that way. God has a plan for my life. God is in charge here and they really mean it. Would you agree with me? Yes although it does get corrupted a bit because then it becomes the quick answer for everything. That's happening your life. Well God has a plan like all good things. There's the subtleties of the goodness right of it. And then also the way we get manipulated or become a shackle. Yeah and I totally agree with that but I just met. I know you have to enough sincere pure hearted people really believe that and I think they should and the irony. Is that when you believe that it's able to happen because you you have a willing soul surrendered spirits. Let it be done unto me. According to your word like the soul of Mary. Something that didn't make sense logically. It is you know all spiritual things are are very subtle. There's a good meaning to being in control. There's a bad meaning to being in control. There's good meaning of power. There's a bad meaning of power and the way you come to. The good is by following on the bad a lot of times. But we're so afraid of doing it wrong or bad. They're almost afraid to use the language of at least in your own heart. I know you're in charge. Your large push the little allstate my case in this group discussion. And then I'll just back way you know and if it's your will I I can trust. I don't need to get angry. I don't need to get pushy. These are beautiful peaceful people. If you think you're in control you will become pushy and not peaceful. So it's figuring alner vantage. I think you'll burn out to you. Know 'cause it's interesting to me to notice how how trust breeds that kind of radical trust that divine trust breeds humility and peace because it's the recognition that it's not all on me. I'm I'm I'm not the one who needs to make this all happen. And it removes that sense of pride that I think creates that stress and worry so it's interesting how they kind go together as well and I'm not sure if I brought this up on on the podcast so you'll all have to forgive me if I've shared this story before. Do you remember that movie? Contact with jodie foster. Do you remember refresh season now? Paul Senate is not thanks for outing. My Love Vampire yet again But it is. It's actually a movie where she's listening for extraterrestrial life signs of life and they end up making contact and they send these instructions for how to build a spaceship that will bring human to them to be able to communicate long story short humans as are known to do Took the map and they said. Well there's clearly no seat in this space we need. They made a mistake Aliens don't know what they're doing. Where obviously much more intelligent so they changed the plan and they added a seat inside the spaceship. So jodie foster's in the seat and she's rocketing up into space and her whole body is just like a shaking really bad and it's jarring and she's horribly uncomfortable and she sees her necklaced slowly start to float and she realizes. Oh this jarring experiencing is because we built the seat and we never needed a seat in the spaceship. The aliens were right so she unbuckled herself. Just floats and is totally comfortable. And at peace and fine and I can't tell you how many times I've thought of that moment and now you're all going to have to net flix contact to watch it but I've thought about that moment in relation to trust that that moment of divine trust is that recognition that we don't know everything and often times. Our worry is this self-imposed seat in a spaceship. That didn't need to be there in the first place. That's making it more difficult for us. I don't know if that made sense at all but that experience of four of unbuckled from my worry and floating into trust I do think is a gift from from some of what I grew up with that. 'cause it's that personal connection to the divine that. I feel like I am able to fall into in moments like this when I'm completely out of Control Hollywood you. I think it's in the four quartets says Lord. Maybe it's ass woman's Day. I'M NOT SURE TEACHERS TO CARE. And not care. That says I just a throwaway line. But it's brilliant. The not carrying is needed to balance out the carrying. Are you become obsessed with? You're carrying your way of doing that. You know your understanding and if you can keep carrying balanced with letting go. Let's call it that I still want you to keep caring. But your grasp on events and judgments it becomes lighter and lighter less grasping actually so it's probably for many of us one of the hardest of the five messages to give up control and of course we're all going to have to do it on our deathbed if we have that gift of having a conscious death so we might as well practice practice. Now we'll be real good at. It was brought to you by Richard. I do have a I have a question with what you're saying though About practicing letting go. Which is that you know in this moment. one of the things. That's come up for so. Many of us is a a sense of reckoning. A clearing of the fog of confusion and a deep ache to to reconcile with those that we may be strange from in the face of the fragility of our lives. In this moment I've heard from so many people. Gosh I haven't spoken to my dad in twenty years but I just I feel like I need to reach out right now Can you give us a word about forgiveness and about that desire How how can we do that work? Even if we can't make contact with that loved one if we didn't get a chance to say goodbye. That's beautiful that you connect that with letting go because that's what it is. It is an act of giving up control and again note. How you you're letting go of counting. I deserve this from him or didn't get this from her. I've said many times going back to my early years in the new Jerusalem community. I talked about forgiveness so much because there were so many hurt love relationships and friendships among those young people growing up that that I felt the whole Gospel might just be forgiveness and someone told me yesterday. I'm not making this up. They said the only line that they remembered for me years later was when I said. It's not just forgiveness of this or that it's forgiving reality a ultimate forgiving reality for being reality for being what it is for being so stupid so absurd so unjust so wrong so unfair so I mean as a one I can just go down the whole listen. I can't get trapped there so there's individual forgiveness and there you practice and you learn universal forgiveness for this broken world It seems to be you can almost see the the outstretched arms of Jesus as saying that I forgive all of it all of it. I hold onto no part of it in judgment. I think that's what God has to do to preserve the universe. If God is counting. It's GonNa talk about us. We need to stop counting than God. Who is forgiveness itself? God must have stopped counting the very beginning and even stopped counting. How many stars? Or how many galaxies or he just keeps they just keep proliferating and he says. Well I can deal with that one and that one's nice and let that one fly out and I can. I can hold it all in my embrace it so it gives me great piece to think that way so thanks for bringing it up we. That was lovely question and Response to Richard that that image in that Metaphor of God forgiving all from the beginning it and it brings time that God has complete beginner's mind always ready to begin again and offer love and forgiveness. So this this really connects well to the fifth Initiation tenant Here Michelle Right. Here is true that you're going to die and yet I am certain of this. Neither death nor life. Nothing that exists. Nothing still to come not any power not any height nor depth nor any created thing can ever come between us and the love of God which occurs is from Romans. Eight thirty eight. Thirty nine and Taking this Tenet and letting kind of wash over us in these times Whether is this eternal t where nothing can separate us from from God even death and I know right now Richard for some friends and some folks in my community that this this whole process of negotiation and this particular piece is kind of muted for them dislike how I muted myself moment ago and they can't trust initiate. They don't tell you they can trust the initiation process that this love of God. That seat in all of us in all things is covered over and not to be believed. Because of that absurdity of reality that we're experiencing now so when you if you ever feel this way if you're counseling someone who's kind of in that season of this muted the sense of the Internet each analogy of the love of God being muted. What would you offer a constellation as they sit in their own quarantine and pandemic trying to let this initiation process? Take hold of them. But there's still that fear of what we've been talking about surrender entrust it was apparently the heart of the initiation experience. Making the young boy who thinks he's untouchable he terminal Andy Struck and God gives the young person girl to that sense that they're going to be around forever he he hides. God hides are death from us. And that's the mercy of God it only becomes real years later But they felt it necessary to communicate that early as we sat in the first one somewhere between thirteen and seventeen to give the young boy and young girl a realization that this thing called life was only temporary Some have to dig their grave and sleep in one night. I think I mentioned the You came from the ashes. No return to the ashes which became Ash Wednesday some experience of your own mortality and of course that depended upon the readiness of the person to allow that to to assault them to realize that usually most of us don't realize the reality of death till one person are our path very close to us dies. That's when it starts to seep in and that's within the foul ability of live Starts becoming real it overwhelms the psyche. Lada allow young people can handle. It never really recover from this ultimate absurdity called deaf that we have no control over the that happens to everybody and yet for some reason. We think it will not happen to us. When I was a young man. I read Ernest. Becker's book The denial of death it won the prize wasn't in the seventies sixties. I'm not sure and I remember just having close it again and again as I read my little paperback version. Too heavy book but it was too much to take. He claimed that the the whole human adventure of war and money and reproduction and fame. Is All your? You're denial of death project to say I will be turn turn allies myself through my children's threw them. I threw writing books through You know building this temple or whatever it might be. It's one of those books that changes everybody. Whoever reads it home? I don't know if you've ever been exposed to it. But he makes the point that that this fifth message tries to make and that are positive. State that there's something more powerful them this final judgment on life which is death. The final judgment is the infinity of love. Love is stronger than life is stronger than death. This is the meaning of the resurrection. This is the meaning of everybody. Who MAKES THEIR FINAL LEAP BUFFETS? On their deathbed it has to take shape. Okay here we go and I know I'm not perfect. I know I didn't do it right all the time. But I'm GonNa leap in the love. I'm going to leave into trust in love. You see our trust becomes so central. You mentioned it before Paul. And it's so unfortunate that most people were trained to translate the word are think of the word faith meaning belief am. I don't think that's the the biblical tone of the word. It's it's trust not believing ideas. It's trusting goodness trusting God to be good it's trusting. The my deepest self is good. It's trusting the reality is good very good despite all the evidence to the contrary. That's your finally buffets What a disservice redid by making people think faith was believing in Douglas at serve. You well unless the dog you believed was God was infinite. Love that will work. But that wasn't usually the case. It was believing second level truth. Not Those first level trues better. Our our soul relies upon that it is a the Netherlands. Universe God is benevolent and God has granted that benevolence to me undeservedly unwarranted. And of course that. May Paul Create that Word Grace. It's all about grace. Grace is everything if forgiveness is the whole message than grace is the whole messes. They're they're almost the same word so powerful to reflect on that and to consider you know in this journey you've been taking us on in in looking at these different initiations. I can feel that. There's this over arching Journey from the isolated. Separate me to the deeply trusting and connected we of witness. Is that that idea that that nothing can come between us. And the love of God and in the same way we share that connection to with each other with this planet and it it invites a deep breath in a moment when there is so much anxiety and we feel so out of control to consider these experiences that we're going through daily and to have compassion for ourselves for the experiences and the emotions that are coming up daily as we continue to face this with uncertainty. How we're being invited into this initiation into the we the weakness of life the benevolent Wenas And Richard as this week in particular is Holy Week. I wonder if you can Offer US just a word in in reflection In enclosing in prayer in a blessing of this whole initiation process in also in light of what this week represents for so many who are celebrating at home away from their parishes their communities Trying to pull it together with their families as best we can. Would you offer us a blessing in an a word of prayer in closing on this powerful journey of initiation? You've let us in reality. Has a crucify FORM SHAPE. Reality is signed with the Cross and therefore it is signed with resurrection They're two sides of the same coin in Lord. We thank you that you've signed us with across that allows us to trust both death and resurrection both darkness and light both are little less and our greatness and not be afraid of either one of them. Now we live in the whole universe we can live in the hall of studies you. We can live initiated into reality. And we don't have to create our own reality. The will always be so much smaller than that so we thank you for this week of initiation on this. I don't know when you'll hear this but were recording on holy Thursday. Tomorrow we begin the Great Walk Through Passion Death. While we begin tonight actually. All Jewish feats began on the eve through passion death and resurrection. So may we walk at least somewhat consciously willingly lovingly and this year especially when the entire planet is suffering from the same thing this global pandemic somehow. This message is being driven home to us that we're all in this together. Global Truth is outweighing individual truth. This might be very good for us to know we thank you loving God. We thank you for the gifts of the Gospel. We thank you for giving us the faith to live under the sign of the Cross in the sign of Resurrection. We offer our prayer in Jesus name today Richard Gere Attorney thank you.
66: Stage 1 | Beccles Stowmarket | Women's Tour 2019
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Well, ruse Manley. What would we played in with their oh, well, that was of my day in the droops car. I mean there wasn't much to say for most of the stage, but then I'd be made Parkinson made an amazing solo attack, and Vanni was just going for it, giving the extra warts shouting, lots of motivational things some kind of swear things if and but actually she couldn't hear them. So did you find it inspiring? I did. Yeah and Graham hood, who was in the car also said getting by dying. He said, give me a bite right now. I will go win this state. You know, it was giving you know, like you know, it should have given her. This is hard too much. Extra. We should play that clip. Char sells every morning here do like a Mr. motivator type stroke. I heard quite well, if inspired him then. Shimura am with rose roundly on Orla Shinui. This is the first of our nightly daily podcast from the women's tour stage one today. Where are we Orla? We are in still market, which is in East Anglia level market time, we started in the market today in Beccles, which was be utilized place. It was like a living museum to English Quinton us and Iran's to market where the race finish way. Here's all but dried up, and I think the weather played a part today in the races quite breezy and wet and quite long stage of it wasn't that far. They were not far apart a lulled stage today. So what happened all we're going to do your story of the stage. We are straight sation. Failing the burden of expectation any bulb in my year, giving me encouragement because we'll we decided we were going to deal few cultural or geographical themes, didn't we? And so I was trying to think of high to him, the story, the state should enjoy Milton used to make regular visits here. Did you both know in your Wikipedia research, pulling a face, I did? Because it was John John, Milton on the, the wall of the weatherspoon's that we were briefly it. And then six and came here, down off point bedfellows. John Milton and weather's all reading. Noise here haven't, we have is a bit laughter cutting through in the weather. Yeah. Quite frankly, we only want our own fun. But anyway, yes, I was actually going to base it, Ron John Milton and his famous poem paradise lost, and which tells the story of Adam and eve, essentially, so I was waiting for pandimonium or some sort of redemption, in the race, I was going to mistakenly neom monon Lloyd, mum on one of Satan's followers, but we didn't see her very much in the race. And I thought it was unfair as well. It's very nice. On also the poem follows the epic tradition of starting in medias race or the midst of the race of the background then coming later. But if I did that there wasn't much of a background there wasn't much at the start of the race. I thought sold that sold Milton sorry, John Milton and I went for John Pagel instead because he lived near here and there's a jaune pay sort of arts and culture center nearby his. Peel early on. I didn't want to correct. Ronnie on John Peter center. We're in the mix. Mix Joan peel centers nearby think, but we did have a guy from the John peel center, playing amazing acoustic music earlier. Mrs peel. Bill pay. What why do you say? Don't peo- is high. I would say P A, L E like if you hadn't had enough sun. Peo- peyot. Yeah. Say okay whereas if you peel, an orange appeal it, you don't pay L it because that would be like, impel it. Oh, the vagaries of our accents. Any each other talking about time is, basically before we go. But maybe peel was J radio DJ principally started off in radio Carolina's. Not what it was called. The is old enough. What was your favorite genre that John peel championed, Richard? What do you think in the end? Smith. So that kind of stuff he loved all rose got to be a connoisseur for dub reggae say, yeah. You look at me think found there's a reggae dub gal. Anyway, we ain't talkin by dub. We took it about the women's to gave you a bit of a cold because I've thrown it in some Joel paid song. References see. Hi. Manny you can find. Right. Well as already said it was fairly on. What? Sorry, start the story of the stage roundabout fashion. Yeah. Okay, we've given a cultural background to where we are. But for the stage itself fairly uneventful for the first part of the reassume. No one, okay? In the UK the heavens opened shortly after the stuff back. Oh this morning. Not the nicest of days in the road, as you said. Richard didn't stop the good vibrations along the route site though, we had the usual fantastic crowds school children lining the roads with flags, teenage kicks and older fans alike. I just love that by modern racing in the U K. It's become quite common people hasn't it to have just this atmosphere. That spectators coming people know, I'm calling itchy people, quite Komen. Yes, you do. Done anyway. No matter what the weather, the fans turn out here and all of that. It's great to see again today. No a happy day of happy cycling, though, for, on a travec of Ali Cipollini Shida, crash fairly early on didn't finish the stage who are first, abandoning the first intermediate sprint went to last year's winner corn. Rivera of sun Webster, quite a groovy feeling for her to know she's coming into form and it matters. Again, shaded Gutierrez reas of movie star in seconds under varies young team. It in third Suzanne. Anderson. The sun web writers thick is th-it's and the second sprint with Rivera Anderson ugly, Kirkman, taking the points there then Christine, Mazaris shoot. She had plenty of mountain energy taking the first set of Queen of the mountains maximum points. And we spent much of the first one hundred and thirty five kilometers, no last with the bunch mostly together battling through that Rian, then with twenty two kilometers to go out of this was darkness emerged. Abby may Parkinson with our first attack off the front the first time with twenty kilometers to go says a lot. And the jobs writer built up a lead of forty one stage. And she took the second of the munches points over Mazaris again, Parkinson did get across the finish line first, but only on the races. First time over the finish in still market are lone wanderer with a still decent lead taking the third intermediate sprint over Mariana voice, and Gutierrez Ruas, again of movie star. She was call it before the line, though, awarded the competivity award for her brass neck, move, quite rightly, so I would say, maybe but of whiskey in the jar for their team. DSP Varney tonight. I think you might be celebrating that one we did have a bunch sprint for the finish in the end. They say love is the drug, but winning is a drug for Jillian Dora. She got her second opening boy, high on life. Yeah, it's got a loss for life, that guard took her second opening win in a row at the two Britain, East Anglia. Once again, spooky, Amy PJ's, herbals elements team at finished in second. Lisa Brenner of. W. N T third. So the evening the jerseys. Goatee Corrina, VERA of San ramp. He takes this prince jersey Queen of the mountains. Christine, mergers of bulls Dolman points jersey to Jillian Dora, as well as the green jersey for the overall leader best, British writers, Eleanor Dickenson tonight of drops and the best team is bull. So looking at the end of stage one but who will have what when Saturday comes dots, a question on that is your stage story of the stage. 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Because every time I said, one, I could hear the smile in my voice, it was like being released leaky here. Joe wing. Every time. Everytime. Everytime. Morla winks them up. You go to name the song tight this as well. And Email us contact at the cycling podcast Carmen, if several you get it, right. We'll pick a winner. I the hats. I'll be impressive. Anyone gets all of those actually, I think snuck in one. You know, some of the McQuay difficult, I was some of them, I wouldn't know that they were songs had a peaky look of your showed us, I'm not going to be entering the competition today. Or Manley London. Well, listen today stage Yolene door was the winner. Amy pizzas. Second one two for bulls. Domes Lisa Brenner, third. And that was good points for former winner here. But I think fool marts Abby may Parkinson today for taking it on because we were able to watch the race which is a unique challenge of covering this race. Where we're talking about the stage before we've seen it. We'll watch the highlights tonight. And there wasn't an awful lot happening there one aspect or one factor in that was that was the length of the stage, another certainly the weather and also the length of the race as well at six days, that is anything else is talking to bowl before the stage today, and I said, you know, are you guys relishing they, they difficulty of this year's race, given that it has been bells as toughest ever its longest ever. And he said he had two point night, the guys last night, that last year, for example, like we said in the previous episode. There was an awful lot of talk about the final stage being so difficult. And in the end it wasn't anyone ears difficult as people that expected? And so, I think he was trying to encourage exactly what we saw today, which was go on the attack. Don't be afraid. Don't be saving yourself for the perceived stages to come because if no idea what they're going to be like, and they may not be reaced is difficult lay as hard as, as you might fear. And that would be the only concern, I guess. With this race to come that, that would be that neutralization of the racing would be a factor buff to skip ahead. It's why think tomorrow's age is going to be really exciting and it's a good that they've broken it up like that. Yeah. I mean it was really a dream day for drops actually being in the in the raising. It was upstate Jayme. But no. But both actually has a piece of paper on his lap, which says objectives in big black letters. And then it says, like one two, three, one of them was like top ten Elliott concern, which, you know didn't quite get almost go that she finished. Number two was like the best British jersey of the back of Ellie doing well in the final sprint photo was being attacking getting competivity. So really tick tick tick for for him. So they did incredibly, well, I think it's just a, a great sign to see drops have taken that kind of attacking which, I don't think we kind of associate with that much. But I saw into of California they were attacking in the tour and good. And they were attacking and was saying that Abby may Parkinson felt a bit like should missed out in the turing into because people marking her a bit more inch ever. She was trying to attack make a break. So she'll be as you wish she was absolutely delighted to have made a solo attack and held on for so long and just built up quite a decent lead. Right. The end and just been out to be showing us off on those the British Prime rights washer, we hear from me partisan and Elliott concern who is twelve on the stage. Abby making up the capacity tries. How was it out there? But the cars incredible like all the kids from the schools are good like chairin on that really made me think the. No one seemed to have got away into you did. And it was very late on in the state. You know what does that say about the siege in, in total? Yeah. I mean it was supporting stage. It was one hundred sixty K K of neutralist wiles. It was a super long day. So. Yeah, it was pre steady the first hundred K and then flow to talk ten I saw a just counted and managed to get away so, yeah, that was really good. And you putting that Lido more more more get the, the did you think you're gonna get to the finish? Your. I had my doubts like it was always going to be a sprint finish. So I knew the lead out trains become in coming in. Oh, yeah. I wanted to say. Keep key on. Yeah. This must be one of the best days that we've been stores. It, it was such a fun day out just coming through the finish line with one months ago and everyone shave. My name was per. Yeah, I love by. It was. Yeah. I really I think, anyhow dot must be your target for the day. And you succeeded, what is that, as a feeling, wouldn't really say it was obviously, every fresh ride wants to be in the best fish rider jersey, but I never ever started the thing can all be in the best ratio has it does so many good British writers, so. Yeah, it was stick a talk ten that got me. Yeah. The best fraiche ride, and how is that to also be on the podium, when Abby may was up there competivity as well? It was so good. It's such a good. It was such an inspiring rod I in the last twenty eight here and it was you just you want to do well, because yeah. Did amazing see you want to do well in the bucket. And the for the state's tomorrow is a weird one kind of like a crit you'll do. Well, I'm just to keep the jersey for then not teach your. Yeah. To hang onto jersey, but it would be nice to just get round syfy. I think could be cottage tomorrow. I'll be made Parkinson Elliott Dickinson Elliott inside. She a lost of the first group Lizzy Diagne finish the place by number four seconds. There was a little split there. I'm not sure that will be significant. Although mine evolves. Interestingly was in the first split. She was fifth on the stage and, and those four seconds for her may be important as the week goes on. Who knows am? I mean, it's easy to sit on the so far sitting in the car and wonder why there aren't any breakaways why nobody even seems to be trying to form a break and, you know, why not be made parking somewhere away. Nobody went with her on it's easy to, to sit and criticize that. But you do wonder I mean, we wanted this Jing the JIRA as well in certain stages. Why teams with clear objectives in the race weren't at least trying to put themselves out there? You know there's a HAMAs television program on tonight. They're going to struggle for highly. Lights? And if you if there had been a break away, even if at being a few kilometers a few rise, they would have ended up on the tally there, there are quite a few teams here who have strong GM Bishen Nazi only thing you can really say. I mean for alvie made to go away, on her own isn't necessarily a threat for any of the writers or any of the other teams really, if it was a stronger breakaway don't mean anything on abbey may, but if it was stronger in numbers than it would have been more of a danger. But it makes you think that with the caliber writers here, we've so many former winners here, it could Welby wide open. And we've seen this reaced one early in years, gone by last year. For example, when Cassini Duma one a few years ago, as well on the gas is what's many rivals, unless it's your team you know you wanted to try to avoid that and keep that race of the risk for as long as possible. So it only suggests to me really that hopefully there are few teams with strong ambitions, and also everybody's talking about this race being a recipe haves and you've got the first three. Ages and the hard in terms of mountainous, second three stages. So maybe there's a little bit of cards being played close to the chest. But I didn't know about that. Because also the g c Cam be very one bump, very narrow margins here, and the intermediate sprints are really key for that because you get bonus seconds every intermediate sprint. And we saw that today because they were quite tightly contested and teams on what really were trying to dominate those. But you'd think that breakway would be even more vital stage when there was three intermediate sprints. So that's like you get nine seconds of nice extracur-, even get more than that you plenty of seconds. If you wanted to kind of give a little either getting early jersey or do something on the first aid. So you can give your team a little bit bit more exposure. And there was to Queen of the mountains. And so in the end when Abby may win. Attacked. She ended up getting cwm pointed up getting into media sprint points. On Saturday thing, if people are looking at where they want to become Saturday stage, one oversea Oviously on our one lost on seconds or at least they can be. But if you're if you're if you've got your eye on the overall by the end of the week, then avoiding losing time is almost as important as gaining time isn't. No, that's true. But I think I mean current VERA said that she was that is why she was up and competing for those intermediate sprints because she knew that. I mean, we saw at the toward a Yorkshire. Didn't we lost you in Donnie rose made it onto the podium because of how she was performing at the intermediate sprints? Not how. That was last year. Wasn't it? She was in the podium. To Yorkshire though, as well and then the women's tour as well. Yeah. Had that eme temple crafts shape with couple of days ago. But then that kinda shows how key those could have been oversee. They, you know. Sunwest played played it out that way. But none of the other teams seem to be interested, but, you know, it could be it could be one of those seconds. Well, the winners on the day where both domains and they've come with a strong with their, you know, their, their leader, Vander Bragan with very rounded team of the sprinters, you'll endure Amy pizzas. I'm did did Erickson who wanna sees? She has very good sprinters. Well, so they seem well equipped to challenge for stages when be spicy, the Derek there tomorrow. And they've also got some strong TC writers as well including Christie Madras, who is Luxembourg champion and clean the mountains in this race night. Let's hear from Christine measures and then Lizzie Deichmann a monkey a monkey there are there today, but taught me through the finale solvency worksite. Well. And then you guys yeah. Early are quite perfect. Also, timing was really good to time. There was a soda writer alone, which is pretty easy to control. When you are big Paladino Vinci's easier when you have more than being learned. Yeah, we started with five K to go to the GP, and deliver to Jillian perfect. The name USA finished second. So yeah, it's a good thing for the for the two I'll be may parks quite a big lead. At one point where you where you worry the toll about her possibly staying away. Or did you feel it was all under control? No, it was on the control. She had him in it, and it was still ten K to go and she was loan. I mean, if it would have been a group for three or four, we should have been worried. Lonely writers extra pretty easy to control. Especially on these roads, vets like appellate on this has really been over the vantage, but yeah, it's too in the to win like this the first day and it's a good saw to, to you brought a lot of fast strong fast writers with you find strong faster rollout means, but is that is the aim here to, to try and win as many seats as possible. Is that what you're, you're planning to do here? You will see day by day, and if that works and then the whole to it's going gonna work. I mean, the last days are pretty hot. So we have to see how we gonna feel today. How DiPoto developing with tiredness by the end of the week today? I we will see day by day, and yeah. We have strong push sprinters, like Jillian and normally, and we have a little bit around us like Amien me. And I mean all Caros going back from training Chem today, they will love home. They are pretty good. So we haven't have a bit costs. Everything. Are you are you the, the, the leader of the team or is that something that's been discussed? I think gee see, we'll have to see after four and then and then plan around, it's pretty hard to control this race like that. It's pretty unpredictable. And it's hard to come river GT plan from the beginning on so day by day. Has just one of these days, you help too much time to think about how much nicer it'd be on the safe. It was just long and it was inevitably going to be a sprint to kind of one of them. Boring long days. Everyone's coming back with mud splattered all over their faces. It looks like the weather very kind. There was racial. I mean is fairly mild? Actually just once you through it was ready to colts. I, I went back to the car, and I was wearing t rain Ducasse's points, say that says a lot, what was your game plan for today, then just to get through the race safely? Like we don't ever sprinter here. So actually, we wanted kind of rivals, like Mariana, who's a g c come tend to get points seconds in sprints. And so should breakaway when great just kinda save ourselves Rudy on TV sales for wall, then what's the overall invasion? What's your personal goal this week to be honest? I'm having arrest after this, so it's kinda just like a consolidation of the first block. And just that race as just keep on denies that really. Hi, I'm Elliott. I'm a cyclist. I race all kinds of bikes mountain bike marathon, get Chris road races downhill enduro, too. I write about journalist. I'm a blogger video maker cycling coach and guide, I suppose Skoda's campaign to close the gender gap in cycling. This is our time. I'd like see more women riding bikes, mainly because I want move into ride with, and I want more women racing because the more women at racist, the more fun is for everyone, but also kind of feel like I get to enjoy this really, really cool thing, and all the women aren't experiencing a night, I think they should be missing out. So I'll do anything I can to get more women involved. I mean, every time I go to race me and my mates all he's trying to recruit more female races. But yeah I mean not just for racing though. I just think women should be riding bikes for. It's not a while pushing yourself it can just be just for recreation as well. Thank you very much indeed, to Skoda for support thing, cycling podcast Femina, again, they did last year and give a lovely Carlos year and they've given us a lovely car again this different car. What do you think of color? It's great. The usual unusual, but quite grown Amee three. Find myself embarrassingly cliche. 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Leave us a message don't for the number but leaves a message on wheel no-one on sir, and we will we'll deal with those questions towards the end of the race. Looking forward to now I know. So we're going to do that. The one thing that caught my eye. When we got the official start she this morning was the big LA had only four riders in the race. Couple of blind spots in their team, which was unusual. They've got team in Brittany competing there and headed by Cecilia blood, vague four writers here, only instead of six which oversee unusual. So I thought there must be through their search of their sports the right to Thomas companion. Now. Thomas companion has been in the news as well over recent months. Well over the winter really when a story was published in a docks newspaper, alleging some inappropriate behavior will bullying fat shaming and intimidating writers, several writers spoke against his management of the team that they'd be in, in years past, including eatery slop and Dell and Carmen, small. I'm so I went to speak some primarily, first of all by the absence of a fool team. Here but also asked him about some of those allegations as well. So you've got. Yeah, you're right writers here out of team of his birthday. What was the reason for not bringing food team here? The reasons very simple out of twelve writers, we have six, Reuters injured at the moment last one was Sophie was planned to be reserved writer, and she broke her collarbone yesterday, and you call it also crash in the last stage because of motorbike went into the bunch and Elise Chebbi was planned for this race was right. A number five she was called unexpected to, to university to make a final exam. Dr. Degree. So we couldn't couldn't get her. So unfortunately we have only four riders here. I, I know the race in Britain is kinda revived race was a race that appealed to the light Cecilie. Just because of the, the course, maybe Sutera by her. No say the reason why Cecilia was there was simply the the the date of the race. You can see most of the Jiro contender writers are not here and Cilla belongs to a possible podium contender, and they need to do. They need to go to attitude so we, we finished that race. And we flew into to the mountains, and she's already, they're preparing for the euro. I mean we've been asking him. But is that do you think the claiming of the researchers incompatible for somebody who's wanting to go to the Jiro? Yes. Yes, we can see beautiful racist like this race. Or also play his is suffering because the good writers are not showing up because they're in world championship preparation. The toot he and this case, most of these contenders line attitude for the Jiro. It's true. It's, it's, it's, it's a problem for practice reducing the number of races, and specifically, preparing for, for this does events. And that means that all the competitors of those writers need to do more or less the same. And this is why more and more top top writers are on not here. It's, it's, it's, it's a bit of a problem, I would say cannot here, but from the stories around you in the team over the winter, the you know there were some allegations made it but what's going on in the team? I mean the team did respond to that. But what, what's your response to, to some of the things that were said? Yeah. I mean, there was only one opinion heard so far, no journalists spoke with me about it. I when when news contacted me I offered them to open up the records because it's a very old case from two thousand fifteen review by the UCI. By four inspectors over period of four months, and there, they closed the case in the way that they say it's not nothing. We can we can find against him. So he did everything right to say. Now, the rules were different at that time, I think it's pretty cheap. No, because the rules are the rules. If you go to court, the existing rules are in force. And more. I can't say we are here we are since for years. I'm eighteen years T Mona. I think we have produced of success people call me a hot spot director. I'm not hard to support his heart so people need to exp- except the sport. And if they come for something they have to stand for something and disgusted many times before the entered the team. And sometimes they pretend to be ready for something like this for challenge, like coming to our team goes through this development. And then during the season day they cannot make it, and then we have open talks, and some are released because they simply don't have the quality. And if they feel that they have to answer in a way that they say he did this he that which is still unproven. I think that's a very, very easy way and it's not the correct way what I can say is we are running the strategic. We are continuing to run this project and at the end of the day. The best answers always success were there. Questions are spy your sponsors. You know, was an uncomfortable time for you. Absolutely not. Because the whole case, the ethics commission looked included. It was a it was a serious case. And when the case was closed the documents were presented to the sponsors. So the sponsors where where line, of course, when that came up three years later, it is just an old story cooped, again, they asked me what is going on? And I said, it's, it's the case that have presented to you and then they closed it for them. It was clear. It was a twenty four hour activity for a lot of clicks, I'm happy for all these online platforms. But I have to run their team. This is how I see it. Thomas companion there. I mean, I didn't have unfortunately are to hand when I spoke to because the recovery things he said, they're the didn't really ring true in terms of the, the number of writers who who comply. Land. And it's worth saying that when this article was published other writers have been on the team that back it up, including the van Velzen who was there for one year. And they did go back a few years twenty fifteen as he said, am, but yeah, I mean he came up this line of, but it being a hard sport. He's not hard. It's a hard sport. But I mean, certainly, you're slopping though, somebody Univer. Well, don't you Orleans, she runs a cyclist alliance and in that role there really campaigning to improve conditions for women cyclists, very aware of the of the difficulties within the pallet, on, as you say it wasn't just combining said that, that it was a testament one writer, but it was it was four he recruited in at one Arctic on the volts contest slapping, smaller, gee, said VERA, coda and ours, Pfizer. And I would just say that I mean, I didn't know heiress incredibly, well, but I've gotten to know our beds, at least since I moved to the Netherlands, and she's far from what I would say. Someone who's not hard. You know, I had a conversation with her by exactly what it is that makes ducks writer sue good. And she thinks it is because they are tougher that they're mentally tougher than a lot of the other writers because it's a very direct Pete. They're evade direct people. There used to take criticism, they're used to giving out criticism. None of it is personal not just the way the operation. So I certainly don't think that she would be someone who would be some sort of a what is it that Piers Morgan Kohl's? Everyone. Like, yeah, she's not exactly snowflake issue. I mean. But everyone's got their side to the story. And you can only take everybody signed to the story. I mean there are one or two other people who've committed being nut team didn't want to be drawn into moving passengers on that team for several years. Someone else who worked for him today, who said that there were two sides to every story, but he did say some other stuff that was interesting as well by this race. And by the five Cecilia blood has opted, not to right here and following on five lewiston and uninventive Bragan who are not here as well. And that approach last year, worked very well, especially if I'm missing this race going to Alta chewed and then going to Jerusalem really cleaning up. Am I wonder you know, this is falling into the same habit as the man of, of racing fewer times. And it's a problem women's like because there isn't the same depth so big races like this, if they are deprived of the big stars, we talked about this, and the previous episode last week can leave a glaring absence. You know in, in the lineup. Mean current Rivera said that on in her interview, the was it lost. That listen to branded very well of coming here and then going to juror Rosa. So I mean, it's kind of different approaches for different riders. And it depends whether priorities arm in the Joe. Rosa is just a mammoth race. It's incredibly climb me. Those in his is ten days and I suppose if you are a pure climbing his way you would go, but if you're anywhere. We're actually movement who immensely in order to finish second year road. Very, very well, but she's come here this year. I think there's an element. I think this is meant men's likely to of herd mentality. And I think kind of companion hinted at that the, you know, they're watching, what other writers are doing to prepare for the kind of copying that approach, and it's not an econ. It's hard. You can't conducting spannis you don't actually know which is the best approach because you only know what the result is in then. But you don't know what it would have been had. They redden taking a different. Hi differently would today have been reaced if those writers hot been there, I don't think any differently, so their presence will make a difference. Maybe in, they Hillier stages, but I can't see that today would be any different. We didn't have a categorized climb into a hundred and twenty four kilometers end. I mean not to me suggested it's a route that decided high today was ridden more than anything else. I mean, when we look at stage three for example, the polish stage you've got a categorized climb to categorize climbs right at the start. Hopefully, my theory will be proven on. We'll see lots of attacks from the off. But I a Porsche times gentle refined tax Austria. Likes go cash navy mom, and she is absolutely. The pinnacle of an exciting ride who animates raised to attacks and you can climb really well, so I don't think you go to bit of an obsession with unav- under bregman on the mainframe. Flu. Have they have very much copied while the man do in terms of going to altitude and doing a lot more training as opposed to raise saying? But I think it's good that so far K Cecil. He's done at night as well. But she she was racing, not just the the altitude bit. I think it's good that that hasn't happened as yet because you don't have the same strength in depth as the man's peleton. But yeah, I don't I again, don't think the racist any the poorer on, on a on an obvious level for not having Vanderberg and in here because we've enough, we've enough top-quality writers. And as you say, ruse attacking writers, who, hopefully when, when the Reese and the re allies will completely blow, the race apart, all Suber. Hi, I'm Anna Christian from team drugs. And the women's told be very British. This is my time I've ever been in the race. And what it, it was pretty hard already. But I think it's good that, that kind of pushing on China, make it. Yeah, a bit harder every year in seventh level. So I'm quite excited. Hi. ST Momon Paseo and the woman's to a will be the most exciting race of the year. Maureen ham Lonnie from from drops sport stretch on this race. I think the women's tool will be the best race in the world of game. I think there's a lot being harder. And I did sense, genuine apprehension from some of the goes, and like any stage race. We got take one stage at time. Yeah. Who was expecting unexpected. So I think the only thing I would say is it's going to be the most professionally run race in the world. And I'm last year's over energy, women's tour winning the women's tour, this year will be really hard. It's funny because it's not so many spinners here. I think very many pure spooners. I think they're really banking it to be a pretty hard race. But I think in my place in my favorite harder as I like to show the bigger sprinter. So I think it works caver and I just have to keep surviving. My name is Davy wondering, I'm from Hobart, I think, do almost doer is going to be a real really hard. I'm looking for too difficult. If the race it's also they're very long stages. Hannah vows from sham racing team. The women's toll will be aggressive. I'm Marie on the voice racing for CC live and the women's through our will be one stuff exciting battle. I think it's interesting that the raises one day longer and harder than ever. But yeah, the ride is always make race. So it doesn't really matter how tough it is. It will be tough. Anyway. Tiffany, Cromwell Kenitra racing to will be exciting challenging hod victorious. It's always challenge the peleton more and more wins to have definitely ever you tried to step it up. Stotka much less challenging on guess. Mates. You make it more difficult. So then everyone wants to bring a game and similar support behind it so much the organization's top notch. So I think it's great unite. It's definitely for a lotta goes daunting. I doubt. But at the same time, we want to pressure spoilt, we want people to be sure, who's the best riders out this, or bring it on. Cycling podcast femi- now is supported by science in sport. Science in sport few why science. Thank you very much indeed, to science sport for supporting the cycling podcast Femina you can get twenty five percent off. Ilias signs of sport. Science and sport dot com with the code SIS, P twenty-five. That's SIS CP twenty-five at science and sport dot com. And before that we heard a little montage of voices from the star this morning and Beccles for some of the writers looking ahead to the week's racing and the one or two of them seeing what they thought of the course and, and this game of two halves that we've got where there are three difficult stages towards end what you to looking forward to most with you say, I'm going to go for stage, two the stage I've got lots things that I'm looking forward to, but I like to live in the moment, that's as close to the moment as I can look forward to. Because it's something different in the women's to your and because we will see a real difference. I think in the writers, who've done lots of credits crass raising and those who haven't, and unfortunately because we won't to see many different writers up there as possible for as long as possible. I think it's a stage that will massively sit Coren Rivera over most of the other contenders and she's something like seventy two isn't it national titles to her name, including credits and all the rest of it. So I'm excited to see how that's going to be raised. And that's partly sorry for any the right is listening, because the writers themselves are prohibitive about it. And that always Piques my interest. I think when they're a bit nervous. I think ooh, what will this unfold is? So states is what I'm looking forward to. It's funny. Isn't it that because that's the prize me as well, because I've been spoke to Rivera this morning, then she was at prints of about. She I think probably people are like playing Jones's of winning it. So he's really trying to be a bit more like it's not exactly like an American crit. And then when I say to riders. Oh, it's a bit like you know during the tour series credits. They do round the u k I mean, the roads will be similar, and then they're trying to play that it's not really like that is so you'll be interesting to see what the results, we do have a few tax and we have a bit of action and it's not just lots of laps of the track. But yeah we'll we'll see in the day. But at least we get to see it. I'm going to writing in the morning as well. Yeah, how many proper Recci? Yeah. How many laps will, I think we can go for a nice little bite rise in the morning because it's a lay starts more as well? The question. You can give us back. We'll just sit on on. Yes new the plan to bring bike. So, yeah, we'll have to you can run run of the same speed is mostly forward to Thursday's first hilltop finish. It's not these aren't they all we're talking about. But Burton, DASA country part. There's a little claim up to the finish. And it's quite a lump e finale to the stage of the loss. Twenty thirty minutes is pretty hilly, which could be with the two stages still to come and keeping opportunity for somebody Willoughby writers, who are holding back and waiting for the supposedly decisive next day, in particular, am Friday stages. Is particularly hard, but not one is, is an opportunity for somebody thing last year. Remember we saw along four Guinean Cecilia booed vague try and spring, a surprise on the stage into lemming ten spa. Wasn't it? Think it wasn't spot, and it was quite lumping, quite challenging, and they really the bunch under lot pressure. It came back. And then, but this hilltop finish that could be quite good little stage for somebody to, to have a goat, ammos, put my one down to bet because you made it seem like the one that I'm gonna pick as a radio this choice, and it is, but that is stage five. I'm just I'm just hesitating looking a lot of consonants and not many vowel. I say. Hundred plundering dote while it, I'm on the fan. To tell Condron. Well to pull throws. Oh, my okay. I've lost it. The first well stay it was. That is just completely. Okay. Because is they've got to massive category, one climbs there and the EPA climb, which is the last climb, which one. Twenty one loss like fifteen kilometers, very end. And that's going average gradient of nine percent. So I think if there's, you know, the ones the one climb that's going to be a leg leg-breaker will be that one and I like breaking legs. What can I say? It's why we love cycling next week and watch other people Basting themselves while we try to stay dry and warm. Absolutely. We'll look forward to, and we'll be back every night with podcast and yet tomorrow from graves where we must drive to now. Let's, let's go. Oh, yeah, thanks for mimicking piano. Kind of. So I did guitar. Yeah. This is why I thought we were in the John peel center, John vs, because when we can dine here already have our lunch for sitting in this sort of the night-clothes cafe, but there was a guy playing acoustic guitar in the corner. And it was beautiful and his name's altern Walberg. And he was from the joint pain center. We got challenge the guys from the jumping center, Rony was telling us a bites sort of upcoming concerts and whatnot. And they have the wedding present play over on Friday. John paints favorite. Yeah, they're playing there anyways. So it sounds like grit. Repertoire of concerts coming up, but ultimately signed, it, absolutely beautiful, and he's got an album. I'd at the moment called foot graphs and memories. And I went to for an held my food aloft next to the speakers, just we could share in the beauty of the music with all of you. We're gonna play the wedding present all the way all the way to our thanks to well that, and while we've been recording lineup Bernie has sent me a little music suggestion as well Dolly Parton, Julie done any of the stage winner. But this. Oh.