19 Episode results for "Sixty Seven Years"

Hard Factor 11/1: FLORIDA MAN FRIDAY - Surfing Sharks, Chucking Nunchucks, and Glass Eyeballs

Hard Factor

29:47 min | 1 year ago

Hard Factor 11/1: FLORIDA MAN FRIDAY - Surfing Sharks, Chucking Nunchucks, and Glass Eyeballs

"Wooded you Joe Man Randy savage this factor not a rate Week Florida on Friday with a three hundred for so we just finished our live power our last night the planner ask Matt next week the week Mark Myself and then pat so west going let's kick it off boys a Florida man who was apparently that's a high risk high reward scenario there he didn't want to get made fun of by the clerk read like why mind respected influence absolutely maybe maybe he hadn't done it service yet in jail desperate times his picture is now plastered all over Charlotte County Florida and everyone knows he hates Std's yeah okay so let the comedy backfire well hold on that could be a major boon ignoring small narrow I it's so much helped looking for the condom thief then describe how he left his cell phone and on if you're out there it's okay brother condoms and Lube or nothing to be ashamed of fact I think they should just shower free your comments but Florida shout out from the guy in Iowa he says that we're cancelled yeah we have a bit of an epidemic on Florida guys you're probably saying you think which one the guy we covered who got bitten the elbow last shark instead of going to the hospital when straight to the bar to show his elbow oh he landed on a shark at Volusia County Beach Florida did he ride the sharp improvement that's a very fair exchange if you jump onto a shark yeah it can bite your foot and if it only bite your foot that's the whole point of this which I'm going to get to that that's the most important parliamentary Lena refuse to be taken the rest your life he was treated on the beach lacerations to his left foot probably in front of dozens of excited Dr Rau galls me up like a lifeguard that doesn't look as good as you to like bandages he either was like no I'm cool or do you think he laughed at it no I think I think he wins latest no that's what I'm saying yeah how did he did he laugh at the hospital or did the girls between the second don't leave me here from sanding it a forty three year old man in Vero Beach Florida named Matthias Apple There's a silent August the guy that he assaulted was sixty seven years old and sitting on the other side of offense walked away confused guy real confused what's well this is actually exciting plus I have more time on this earth than he does anyway bag you don't want to point out the obvious but I am younger than this man argue the co it just doesn't make sense it doesn't make any sense well well including he's he's got with is needs to read the H. is actually signed his first name to Matthias Komo Hangman because no one knows everyone's last name it's not common but that's a great hangman where it adds haunted house at the call your county fairgrounds this week when his with his wife and step-daughter public trump like dress up by trump's a fourteen year old girl punched him waiting in line with his so she didn't think it was a big deal but then the trump guy the guy addresses trump he reported the incident to yeah this this is a Republican conservative Republicans version of getting bitten veit everyone would just think of the shark bite analogy in every facet of life there's a group of women that are his wife is wife was there she could have been consider thinking about thinking about how would probably not press charges bringing down all up you can bet on Maggie yes or Magon no we're all sorts of Maga- related things at W. fucking sweet so you may have seen on Halloween the house formerly back the Democrats impeachment you can go on none of this is surprising at all but what is surprising is the sturt causing the predicted percents yes which we are saying are in two thousand nineteen I should say his forty cents yes we would say no he's impeachment actually passed all my God it's only forty it's thirty eight cents a share it was there and bet no on him being twenty nine hundred in two thousand nineteen bet yes on you're gonNA want to get involved because we do awesome let's all the debates we have one coming up in November and it's just a lot accused of throwing nunchucks through a car window at a traffic light after a road rage incident I can't give up your nunchucks crime and floor personnel it is property six year old Leonardo Fernandez has been charged with throwing a deadly missile into an occupied adly missile deadly like a beer like a water about can of beer beer it was created by the martial artists it is different design initially a look apparently phone down because he believed that Fernandez was texting and driving this guy deserved to be. There's your mistake right if you want to Numb chucks through your back window what was I thinking yeah and that's what happens so let's probation repeat offender then Gary Ten shirt jumped in and says Bobbi the highlight of the hour I have no idea I've tried to make sense of it Andy Much better which I guess is where Gary Shirts from their little research on and then Vilma Yeah I better pat almost got a bicycle thrown at him for staring at a on

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John Minko's Goodbye

Boomer & Gio

09:39 min | 7 months ago

John Minko's Goodbye

"When I think of wfan legends. I think of a handful of people and the guy who is joining us now is in that group and I'm not saying that lightly. I am not saying that because of the news yesterday I in saying that because I truly believe it I could never imagine what. Wfan would sound like without this guy's voice on the air at some point. I walked in the building in two thousand and five John. Minko was there. I walked in the building a few weeks ago. John Minka was there. People walk into that building in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. John Minka was there. People work there in the nineties. John Minko was there John. Mako has been with. Wfan every single day it has been. Wfan announced yesterday that he will be retiring after all these years. Make there's not a lot of people in this business that if you go around the room and every one of the colleagues that they worked with they wouldn't have a bad thing to say about them. You are one of those guys. I am so fortunate to have known you and work with you and I was sad to hear the news yesterday that this was going to be it but I was also encouraging to know that. There's not a lot of guys that have had careers like yours so on the morning of your last shift at. Wfan how you feeling. Well you know what the last twenty four hours and first of all thank you very much for the for the kind words of it go you know people say you know how you feel and everything and and basically goes from our. There's some hours that you know. I'm ultra emotional out all this and and then there are certain other hours in which You know look back and say you know it's it's been pretty good and So you know basically that answer is Depends on when you ask your right ahead right now. You're asking and and you know it's it's it's pretty emotional well. Sixty seven years old and You started in one thousand nine hundred seven. I met you in the early ninety s when I was playing for the jets and I've gotten to known you over the years as the the humble one the guy that took good rubbing at the hands of both Mike and the mad dog and of course me and Geo Mian Craig Fun at your expense and you always took it and you just took it in stride and I think it's one of the reasons why everybody at the station has so much respect for your legacy there and what you've done there how you carry yourself and I echo everything that GIO has said leading into this interview and I just WanNa let you know that. Yesterday was a tough day for all of us because we heard about this and when we did hear about it you realize about the economic realities that we're all facing because of this Krona virus but I also worry about you know you and getting to work every day and putting yourself out there and you're always early you were never late very very very rarely in my eyes ever missed a shift and I just wanted to say thank you for being the man that you were holding up your end of the bargain and always being humble Employee and CO worker. That was a joy to be around that. Thank you very much an F. N. It Oh Like so many of us that the history of Afghan obviously is documented from July first of nineteen eighty seven. But the the number of people. And I don't know the the number which I did a of people that have been a contributor at radio station double digit years and whether it be on the air whether it'd be behind the scenes whether it be in sales with our engineering we're being anything That number is is pretty much. You Know I. It's a good hefty number and I think it's that hefty number that basically tributes to the the history and the success of the radio station. I mean so. Many people have gone through there and you've known and worked with every single one of them. You are the historian. You're the guy that has seen it all every single good moment every single moment everything in between I remember when you would bring in every year on the anniversary all the pictures of story. Ah and the fond memories that we had there and we would go through all of that When you look back on your career is there one or two moments that that stick out that make you smile more than others you know? I think I don't have that. I can't sit here and say I have this one moment that that defines me you know. I I would say this though. There is one moment that does define me and that was a long time ago. I was working one of the first time I ever worked with IRAS and and I. I went to long during during the sports casts. Update trying to be funny which I was never and after it was over a after. Ten o'clock in the show is over. Eat pulls me over to the to the wall and he knew he was not happy with me and all he said was tell the people what they need to know and shut up and and I. I always remember those words. And that's that's why a lot of the updates most of them are all short all headline form verbs and and things of that nature and I got that from him so you know from from an on air standpoint. There's not really one moment that sticks out above any other but those words define me and basically to me anyway. The fine my existence at that radio station all these years. Yeah making one of the things that always impressed me about you as you never tried to stop learning especially with play by play. I mean even all these years you were doing any of this army. Your Saint John's whatever else you record all your games. You'd listen back to him. You'd WanNa hear how you did and you wanted to get better and there'd be times in the newsroom where you had some downtime where I saw going through some of that stuff and it just always impressed me because you know not everybody that was doing as long as you would go back and listen to all your stuff to make sure that you would. You would get better. I mean and another thing I wanted to tell you. I just hope that you understand how much you meant to the radio station. You know we've always busted your chops and stuff like boomer said but you know there's been times that even in the last couple years I would try to explain to you. Make you realize how important you've been to this place right and all of us. I mean there's just certain voices that are synonymous with the radio station. So you know. I hope in these couple of days when you're going through all these emotions and in some of those said ones go away and some of the proud ones start to surface that you understand what you've done on this radio station. And how many people do you have made happy in touch? Just doing your updates and being you is just astronomical I mean I know you're on twitter. I don't know how much the stuff you saw yesterday. But it was person after person after person after person saying all these great things about you so I hope that you can use that as some of the fuel that when you're sad about maybe the way it ended in an ended a little bit too soon that you think about that and be proud about it. Yeah well thank you once again and You know it was you know F. A. N. And the the number of people that have been there for so long. I. It's it's just the power of the radio station. The history of the radio station Is like no other and and I was proud to the A small part of it. You know if there's one thing that you can look forward to that you don't have to deal with Chernoff anymore or Eddie. He's taking potshots at you. Know we got Jerry in there. You you have anything to say Jerry. While we've got you know what guys I think you hit on. The guy's a legend it's been a privilege like I said the Harris last hour it's been mink was one of the first guys. When I started working there that I couldn't wait to meet. It was Steve somers and it was John Minko. And so it's been twenty three years for me there and it's been a blast. I will miss our college basketball conversations but we'll be listening and I'm sure Rutgers and Saint John's O- play again real soon and I'll get to see again but yet and some of those college basketball conversations were Were real interesting Some of the stuff that was brought up there. You know that not not that not good things. That's for sure no question but I miss you man. That's for sure thank you. Yeah and absolutely I remember one time I asked you make when this is all over. What are we going to do? And you said we're GONNA go out and we're GONNA get drunk so that will happen. That will happen at some point down the road. I can guarantee you that we will all get together and we will do exactly that. Thanks John. We'll talk to you soon and I know we'll keep in touch thank you God bless. There's John Minko who took will be retiring and some of the behind the scenes Mingo stuff. That doesn't get talked about as much. Eddie can attest to this. Minka would call the news room on the weekends when he was home drinking beer just to chat with us a little bit feeling pretty good. So you'd get like a half in the bag. Minka calling the newsroom on a Saturday and be working like a tape shift on a Saturday night. Cutting up games and everything and then there was going. All he wanted to do was sit down. Drink some beer and talk to whoever picked up the phone and the newsroom so I will remember all those times fun.

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When the Queen dies, what happens next?

The Big Story

22:49 min | 1 year ago

When the Queen dies, what happens next?

"One very sad day in the coming months or years bells around the world will toll in a way that has not occurred in living memory most people on this planet it majesty the king harsh peacefully away after a few minutes before twelve it has been more than sixty six years since her majesty queen elizabeth the second santa the throne during her recordsetting rain she has come to define royalty huge portion of the world's population what is royalty in a rapidly changing world or even in a rapidly changing monarchy what happens in the hours and days after her majesty who is now ninety three passes away what will change in the commonwealth in canada in the world even in her own family in the months some years that followed at the royal family is one of the last visible links between canada and the united kingdom and it is woven into are government and away the most of us probably forgot after that grade school civics class but be invisible ties are deep and the queen's passing will testify in ways that they never been tested to win the queen is dad how does her rain lebar mhm jordan heath rawlings and this is the big story patricia trouble is one of canada's preeminent royal watchers and reporters she is correspondent for mcclain's and you couldn't find her at right royalty dot dot com i patricia at yard how prepared is the world especially canada but i guess just the world in general for a what you called in your piece from mcclain's be inevitable when queen elizabeth to pass it but the second and i'm gonna say just there you go in town the two is a ship right here she simply the clean if you if you if you go round the world she's been she's been monitor for so long if you go around the world you ask kids to draw clean they will draw they'll put a tiara crowder and they will draw hurt are we prepared me she's ninety three i mean we know the inevitable there's actual legal term it's called the demise of the crown censure down my throat my spine i don't think anyone's prepared there are people who have made plans for we know what's gonna happen we know it's inevitable me she's ninety three but i think it's gonna catch everyone off guard is gonna be far more far larger and former emotional even though those of us who've really thought about it no it's gonna catch everyone off guard will awhile ago when we were both working for the same publication you kind of walked me through what happens exactly when the queen dies and it was it was fascinating 'cause you can explained the protocol like be on the ground protocol so this isn't something that put together at the last minute royal officials have been planning this and they take their plans for decades we know that the queen's you know the whole the ten days from her death to her funeral is london bridge and so the first thing that obviously happens you know is that her family is informed and then the palace officials will inform the prime minister of britain and the protocol is is simply london bridge has fallen i mean you that's the code and everyone knows what that means and that kicks in a plan in place so the ram countries so cat nations that have the queen as head of state canada australia they're sixteen around the world including britain they are informed the governor generals were informed so everyone's informed in behind the scenes and everything's kicking place and what every every nation has is they have there's a box in a closet somewhere and it has black armbands and the black armbands put on the left are closest to the heart you are in mourning for her and so you'll see everyone in news announcers will have everyone has black black jacket in their newsroom a close three somewhere and that's put on and then what's happened is they announcement it will be made through the press association an instantly everyone around the world will break in broadcasts you know it is with the greatest sadness the buckingham palace has announced that at the end what also happens is it everything stops so if you're on a hip pops listen to hip hop station a you know you're going down the highway all of a sudden the musical turn because this is the sort of thing they prepare for it not just the clean but huge disasters you know the preparations done especially in britain they're done very regularly 'cause they don't wanna catch people off guard it can so when the queen mother died in two thousand two it was easter weekend andy officials famously told they announced that he didn't have to change its title he's gonna put on a block time said oh no no you know she's honored and wanda nobody's gonna be really that interested the blowback was significant and they learn a lesson and they also thought they thought oh she's just been around forever there's not gonna be that much interest people were lined up to walk by her coffin at westminster hall they were lined up up over an under something like eight bridges in london westminster hall is open twenty three hours a day it only closed one hour so they could simply seen it it's the kind of thing that to people that don't engage with the monarchy much you kind of forget about it because because it's been stable first so long and it lets you maybe not realise the weight of what's going to come when something like this happens well i mean think about it she spent on thrown for sixty seven years so she is now she's ninetythree free so she's been working three decades past the normal time people retire and she's still going so i did statistics and i realized that for canadians something like more than eighty five percent of canadians have no no other monarch yeah they were born in her wayne many many died in her rain and so the change will be will be just shocking i mean in many ways you're you're gonna continue you're gonna go towards you're gonna do everything else short there is this underlying fundamentals protests that there will be as i said i said the last breath as the queen is immediately followed by the first in take a breath of the new king and that will be charles there is no doubt anyone who has this theory that somehow got a bypass him and go to william people would see that i don't know why because william has a young family and the duties are so are so owners if people think oh she doesn't really do much she doesn't law they you know and the governor here in the vice regal's the the lieutenant governor they do a lot so why would you want a man who's got young children to that no charles has been groomed for this he's ready and he's taking over more and more of her duties i mean she's still works but two hundred fifty engagements year i mean she is not you know she has not put the upper feet one of the reasons i wanna talk to you is because in your piece you talked about sort of the context of the queen's passing in the larger picture of a monarchy in transition so in the bigger picture to to the world that you describe is basically only ever known one queen now what kinds of things come into play when this happened so you've got things so the first thing is that you know charles has to figure out what name he wants to be known as it's not obvious and it's gonna be it's gonna be charles third yes but he could pick other names he's charles philip arthur george he could technically pick any any of those words she would be king george the seven his grandfather's king george the sixth he could be kings are some well his grandfather was prince albert but when his brother older brother abdicated you know which was a huge scandal rock the the throne the foundations he picked the name of his father so you know george the fifth george the six simply for continuity he could pick any name who wants so and then which you also have to have is you have to have there'll be accession council which is a special version of the council will meet you have just where owes parliament has to be recalled because everyone has where an oath to the new monarch and you've got this whole where we come in like bend the knee no no you're something you just go back to parliament will get usually get recalled within a few days you swear an oath of allegiance to the new king you have an oath legion switch to the queen and when they when they're swaying and that's it the kinds of things i've never thought about having never seen this happen because you were born a canadian if you're if you're if you've ever been to a citizenship ceremony you swear allegiance the clean 'cause she is the head of right because she is sti and this is what people don't understand this is when i was at this at this conference that was inch university tronto last week it was organized by the institute for the study of the crowd in canada in one of the big things is most people don't understand what the crown is it's it's at the heart of our entire country and yet because we don't study civics really anymore people don't understand it and basically what you've got is is the the monarch is the living embodiment of the state and so the state always continues but the monarchs can come and go became his dad log lives a queen queen is dead long the king and how you've got she is the physical embodiment of that and everything really slows from that so you've got you know judicial power flows from the crown legislative power flows from the crowd of executive power flows from the count everything flows from that emmett is monarchical so you have to change change everything over and let's face it you know when we're actually talking about these little when it happens it'll be ten days of british precision they have everything planned the second if you're ever out sometimes four o'clock o'clock in the morning five o'clock in the morning you'll see an entire karaj procession going by and they've got men will stop watches at the top because they know how long does it take to slow march from saint james is palace to westminster hall where her coffin where she will lie in state for four days takes exactly twenty eight minutes they know it because they've timed it repeatedly and everything it's gonna be very precise and you're gonna have this in canada to what will the changing of monarchs mean for the future of the monarchy there are a lot of people who want to abolish it and there is a school of thought that the the longevity in popularity of this queen one of the things kind of holding them back yeah i i there's a lot people who will say i'm a republican but i like her a or i'm a republican i adore her she has been the ultimate constitutional mark yes she knows her pow's she knows where she can go and the question is is this the time when you got the changing you know i don't think you're gonna say the twilight if you're you're ram so you had a really long way but we're gonna we're gonna throw you over goodbye i think everyone's realize that's not gonna happen is now the time so like australia's thinking i was talking with one of the of the private sector trays for a the governor of queensland and he said you know we think of it eventually we're going to have another referendum on the monarchy the last one which was back in the nineties was defeated and if somebody couldn't find a better system and that's also the case but you also have i am a case of you know if you're gonna start opening things up the problem and kind of courses the crowd is at the very heart of the constitution so you're not just making a ton of tweak there would have to change you somebody after rip out and rip up the cultures it needs unanimous consent sent all provinces everything it's which everyone omar it couldn't be done there are ways you can tweak it end there we sit some people think it could also mark rejuvenation of the crown so one of the men who is speaking was a senator so dry out who has i mean he's worked with something like ten nothing governor general and secretary of state with on multiple a real tours he's he's very much monarchist he's thought really deeply about this and he's actually concerned about a few things that he thinks are diminishing the role of the crown in canada and he doesn't think it's a good thing and especially if the governor general who's of course the queen's representative here her role in the legislative process test in that normally what happens is has to give royal sent everything of course become law but only now has to go into parliament to do the signing twice here doesn't have to do more they don't want to do it folks i know they just somebody else's on it could be a a supreme court justice consign it and he was quite critical he did not name names but it was clear what he was intending on is it the choices of who are who become governor general is he really says the role of the crowd is very much shaped by the personalities of those who inhabit the role of a the governor generals bluff tendance governor at one of his big criticisms is that he thinks that the the governors of two young because this should be the combination of a long career they shouldn't be thinking about what's the next thing but they're gonna do after this that this is john oh it's a five year thing and i'm going to do something else these are the things that people never talk about their kind of behind the scenes and i think that in many ways is one of these issues about the crowd is that i in my article talking about the fact it's like vaccines on the almost it's almost been too successful and so that's become simply assumed it's always they're therefore why do you need to have it because often what they do when they're talking wiz the government when they're talking about issues that might be a conflict so that there might be an issue where the government and crime might be in conflict is done behind hind the scenes is done very quietly somebody called it if the fire extinguisher on the wall getting dusty you don't ever wanna take it down because that's the way to public you wanna keep it on the wall and workout the problem and put out the fire and they've done this to such an extent when things kind of come up and their public people are are taken aback i think it would help if if people knew what the crown did and again that goes back to school i mean the fact that there's one half course in ontario see only mandate is sort of course in the country is racing will that knowledge her lack of knowledge get better or worse when we actually confront transition in the monarchy i'm hoping it'll get better because what'll happen there'll be a lot of interest in what is this the first question's gonna be what is the crap i mean when we read the headline of you're piece it was a it was a profoundly interesting question because we've never encountered i'm getting ready inevitable yeah yeah it's it's just kind of you know nobody wants to talk about death i mean nobody wants to a death but i mean crowd experts and then there were so many at this conference they came from from all over the world you know their careers are talking about issues with the crown and there have been there has been a bubbling up recently of issues involving the crowd so two thousand eight a stephen harper was facing facing a potential defeat in the house of commons he wanted to probe primary he went to the governor general and the question was should the governor general have allowed him to do it and she did end most experts think yes that we should probably right but she has the right to say no another case came up very recently late in british columbia because they had the election it was very very close the party standings and the premier who is a liberal went to the left tenant governor and watch it disillusion why don't you go to the polls again and she said no she then called v ndp leader and said can you form of government and they had dp leaders now the premier he could form of government he could put together a coalition and that is her right they had just gone to the polls they were she didn't want to have them thrown back against the polls without talking to other leaders about whether they have and that that is the right of the crowd and some some people think oh you know what kind of crowd you the chronically has a lot of reserve powers because a lot of the powers it's the unwritten 'em they're not spelled out and so people assume that the crowd is fixed it's rockets immobile we know everything about it it's boring if they're gonna change and one one man said he says it's like water is oh it's malleable it's always changing give me an example from but conference of how drastically things could change for how the crown does business with one of his rome's so what you have is when you had the colonial situation you really had one crap but now they're sixteen cramps the sixteen around the country is so when you look at the crowd in canada versus the crowd and say new zealand and this is one that came out in in the conference they are actually organized and run come now completely differently i mean a lot of the basic fundamentals are the same obviously the markets the same but how they're run and so what what came out was 'em especially in new zealand is one of the experts was david williams he's from the university of auckland he called it the shape shifting crown and so they're they've got the treaty of what hunky between the mari in the crown from eighteen forty end for a long time is really ignore it was you know it was there but you know like are situation with the crowds relationship with indigenous and his people here are the government's relationship with individual indigenous people here is you know in name only that his all completely changed since about the early two thousands especially de treaty of what time it is now if the foundational document of that country ended effects in touch everything to do with that country in who's giving example he was saying that when is it could be the biggest thing or the smallest thing and one is heavily gave us when diplomats predict presented that their credentials you presented to the governor general well they have completely reorganize that whole process so now when they diplomats come they first meet with local maori they talked local mary they meet the local mari there's a guard from from the local tried there and only then once that's happened do they then meet the governor general and it's little it could also be tiny little things so it could be on the facts of the robes of the supreme court justices there used to be the big the red robes they were used to hear there now black and they have embroidery which has mocked his significance for the mary people and it's also the the bigger thing so you've got is he said his university has a provost who is in charge of mary relations so it's becoming simply embedded in the in the dna of australia in a way that is not yet here you could see changes here but it'll be interesting to see what happens in twenty there's some now here versus what's already happening in new zealand is there concern amongst canadian monarchist that the queen's passing will kind of begin end or begin something totally different for the monarchy in canada or is it just gonna be business as usual i guess like are we gonna put charles on her money as soon as he becomes can be the question of charles money eight it keeps coming up it that is actually i just think that will happen they made he technically does not have to be i would like to see him on the money 'em i feel like a lot of canadians would not i'm i'm making that up and that could very well be yeah i think a lot of the changes are gonna come slowly i think some of the fundamental changes will come slowly the question gonna be like when does he do a coronation tore into honest we didn't really have the queen the queen was you know seat of the throne and fifty two she came here for a tiny little visit and fifty seven but she did only temporary next big vison fifty nine so i mean seven years that's a long time i don't think we're gonna see that but the thing is it's not so much trust this is that the since institutions been around for a thousand years and they take a long time and they know you know charles no he's seventy he's not hipping glamorous willing cater harry and meghan are you know you go we've got the next generation that's the one thing about a monarchy right you got the next generation is very much a family or cultured demands change a lot faster than rivers it does but you when you look when look at the monica i mean everyone who everyone who looks at the crowd you know were now to what the mid sixties look at how it functions in that netflix series then i look at the look at the monarchy today it's a radically different if chusetts simply they move at a slower pace that you don't always notice those changes when you've got your question are monique kiss anxious about the change i think many are because it is i know and we've known who the cleanest for so long and this is simply a note but that in a way makes it interesting i mean you know and this is the one thing that everyone is talking about at the conference was it wasn't you know naked you just you know what's gonna happen after the queen but it's simply that is simply going to be something we have we have never witnessed you know when i look back i was talking with my with my mother and you know she remembers the the death of the left king and she said she was in hospital and the reason she found out was it all of a sudden everything went very quiet she went out into the hallway and the doctors nurses were we pick and they were openly weeping for this map because he he'd gotten up through the war right they'd all been together and they knew he was woefully ill prepared for the for the crown but he stepped off he did his duty you know and it was that war war generation an end i remember i asked her not that long ago said said do you think they'll be like it'll be like that would this clete and she looks she she said i don't know but i think so i think it's gonna take people off guard by how much they actually like this lady how much they miss this lady how much they respect this lady and what she's done she's doing it all so that she could pass it onto the next generation he's not doing it for her own you know glory she's not doing it to be slapped to be on a cover of magazine she's doing it to pass on these two batters to the next generation and that's her entire goal text patricia patricia trouble they veteran royal watchers reporter finder mcclain's rate royalty dot com now is the big story from more from us including yesterday's big story which a coastal out of you out made a lot of you hungry confined the big story

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141 - Smarter Not Harder

Secular Buddhism

17:56 min | 3 weeks ago

141 - Smarter Not Harder

"Hello and welcome to another episode of the secular Buddhism podcast. This. Is Episode Number One, hundred and forty one I am your host Noah Rochetta and today I'm going to talk about skillful effort. Always keep in mind you don't need to use what you learn from Buddhism to be a Buddhist. Can Use what you learn to be a better whatever you already are. If you're new to the PODCAST and you're interested in learning more about Buddhism in general check out my book no-nonsense Mood Isn for beginners available on Amazon where you can start out by listening to the first five episodes of this podcast. Also check out my new online workshop called mindfulness for everyday life available on Himalayas anew educational audio platform, and you can find information about that by visiting Himalayas Dot com forward, slash mindfulness and give it a try with the Promo Code Mindfulness for a fourteen day trial to listen to not only my workshop but hundreds of other workshops that are available there as well. And if you're looking for a community to practice wear than to interact with consider becoming a patron by visiting secular Buddhism Dot Com, and clicking the link, join our online community. In this podcast episode, I wanted to share some of my thoughts regarding the topic of effort. So in Buddhism we follow what's called the eightfold path. These are eight specific. That you focus on to live a more mindful life and the eight areas are right understanding right intent, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, and right concentration and I've talked about these general I've talked about the eightfold path in general in the podcast before I mentioned it of course in my book. And I wanted to discuss some thoughts that I have regarding one specific aspect which is effort. So if you visualize real quick, the symbol of Buddhism is a wheel with spokes and these eight spokes represent these specific areas, these eight areas, and some people have divided these into three general groups, the group of pertaining to wisdom, which would be understanding and intent. The group related to ethical conduct, which would be speech action livelihood. Then, the group pertaining to mental discipline, which would be effort, mindfulness and concentration. And again I've mentioned this before but I've never taken the time to share thoughts regarding one specific spoke of the of the wheel and today wanted to do that with with regards to effort. Now, anytime, you encounter the eightfold path, you'll you'll typically hear it described as right this and right that right understanding right intent and so on. I've mentioned before that I prefer the term skillful because of skillful means being such a prevalent concept in. Buddhism. It's not right versus wrong. It's more of skillful versus unskillful. So I would like to talk about effort in terms of skillful effort versus unskillful effort. and. This kind of conjures up the expression that I'm sure you've heard which is that we can work smarter not harder and. I this is the first time. I've kind of correlated all of this in terms of Buddhist practice, and that's because over the past few weeks. I've been busy doing a lot of flying I had an eight day workshop where I was teaching for new pilots how to fly. Followed by an eight day, fly in, which is a gathering and you have vendors there and they're showcasing their equipment, and then all of the attendees were spending Oliver Time doing as much flying as possible just for the fun of flying. So it's a really fun event but I've been gone from my family and from my home for the past two weeks on the road doing all this work, and for during the first week working with four new students, I had this thought of skillful effort because of an experience that I had. So I had four new students and one student really stood out to me he joined the class. Several months ago he signed up for training and he expressed his concern I due to his age sixty seven years old and as you start reaching, I would say your mid sixties You know it's common for some people to lose a little bit of their strength. But to complicate things further for him, he he has Parkinson's disease. So he was a little bit worried about how those complications would factor into doing all this physical effort that it takes to learn to fly a pair motor, and for those of you who don't know the process of learning to fly. One of these entails strapping a motor to your back. That's usually sixty to seventy pounds and then running with that and and running to the point where you're going fast enough to take off, we don't have. Wheels in in powered paragliding at least not in the foot lunch powered paragliding, which is what I do. Our we are wheels are our feet. So you have to be able to run up to a certain speed to be able to take off just like an airplane has to get up to a certain amount of speed before it lifts off the ground, it's the same for us, but we don't have wheels. So has to be our feet. And student was a little bit concerned as as was I. I told him if if you're determined to learn, we'll spend all the time that it takes. If it goes beyond the eight days of a takes weeks or months, I will continue to spend that time with you and teach you as long as you put in, you know the the effort that it's GonNa take to do it, and that was kind of how we left things and then the day came for training to start. He was little nervous I was certainly a little nervous. And he did remarkably well and this is where I started to see and experience first hand what skillful effort looks like he knew himself so well. He knew at what time heating to take his medication he knew how long it would take before the meditate medication started to kick in. He knew when the window was opened for him to go out and start practicing and doing all the effort and the work it was going to take to learn and perhaps more importantly, he knew when that window was closing and he would be the first to shut it down and say, okay, I'm done I can't keep practicing because he knew that as the medication wore off and his Parkinson's kicked in stronger. Those were not skilful times to continue practicing and continue trying to push himself. And as I observed this over the course of several days. I was pleasantly surprised to see how quickly he was learning because of the effort he was putting in and it wasn't. It wasn't that he was trying really hard as he was trying in a very smart way he knew when to be trying and when not to be trying. And that to me was the correlation with this concept of skillful effort. And pleased to say he ended up being in the top of the class. He accomplished his goal he learned to fly. He had six or seven flights throughout training that he did all on his own and he nailed it every time he took off he was a textbook student and I was very pleased to see his progress because it is common in this environment for me to train students who come in with the mindset. Of wanting to be really gung Ho and just work really hard and they're tired, they keep going and then they're really tired and they still keep going and then sometimes they get hurt they can sprain an ankle or they get heat exhaustion or things like that, and it's happened enough times to where I've had to structure in breaks into the curriculum because the students won't take the brakes themselves they're they're just so determined to continue. So I've had to build in into the program the training style where people have breaks that they have to take. To hydrate, but also to take turns in a buddy system so that they can't both be going hard. You know one hundred percent at the same time and that's been very helpful. But this this student didn't need any of that. and. So what I saw playing out in front of me was skillful effort and it was really neat to experience it to see it unfolding and to think the reason he's doing so well is because of he knows when to try when he's trying too hard when he's not trying hard enough and he found the balance somewhere right in the middle. and. This reminds me a little bit of the discussion of the instrument with strings strings with again from the Buddhist teaching that the instrument with strings of Titan too tight. Sounds bad and if it's not tight enough that also sounds bad. But somewhere in the middle is the proper tension on the string and then that's what makes the Music Playwright Picture Guitar Guitar that's not tuned properly sounds doesn't sound very good. But when it's tuned properly, it's It sounds great. And that's how it works a lot of times with effort. There are times that we try too hard and there are times that we don't try hard enough. But somewhere in the middle is skillful effort. Just the right amount of effort that you could almost say is smart effort and that's why like this expression of skillful effort. Now. I see this in meditation practice. Mindfulness practice when somebody decides, you know what? I WANNA start living more mindfully and they approached this practice and they say, you know what? I'm going to start meditating one hour every day and they're determined and then they get burned out after two or three days because that's actually really hard to set aside a whole hour every day I see that happen all the time. So, again, this notion of maybe you're trying too hard, maybe it would be more beneficial to approach this with what is the skillful amount of effort because that is very personal, right? The amount of effort that it takes for you to do something maybe very different than the amount of effort takes me to do something or someone else, and in context of time as well. The amount of effort it takes me right now to be able to launch and fly a paraglider wing is minimal compared to the effort that it took many years ago when I was still new and learning. And that's how a lot of things are in life the amount of effort that it takes. With parenting with school with our kids with the way we handle coworkers at work I, mean you name it effort is something that affects everything that we do every single aspect of our lives. So I really like drawing this correlation between skillful effort and the invitation to look inward to be more introspective and like my student new himself when it's time to take medicine when the medicine is wearing off when he should be out on the field practicing when he should be sitting down resting all of that was introspection he knew himself pretty well, and that has inspired me to want to do the same. With regards to parenting or with regards to doing work any aspect of my life I want to be I want to have a skillful amount of effort that I put into the things that I do. Now it's funny. This episode I had already recorded this once and I didn't realize until I was done recording that the microphone had been set on. Mute. So I recorded the whole episode only to discover. It hadn't recorded at all and I had to rerecord it, and sometimes it's hard for me to have to rerecord it because it's like why don't remember what all I said that first time because I don't write any of this down I, just kind of wing it as I go. So this is. Round two on the topic of skillful effort and I thought in between the two sessions I didn't immediately sit down and start recording once I realized what I had done I I realized well, now's not the time to continue to sit here and just push through I. Want to think this through and I want to be skillful in the effort. That I put into when I'm going to rerecord site took a little break I stepped away from the Computer I. Win Eight a bowl of cereal went outside and worked on a couple of other projects that I've been that are on my plate got those done then I came back in and I said let's try this again and I made sure the Microphone was not muted this time and that's where this specific podcast episode is coming from. Now, this is around to and I don't remember what things I said in the first version that didn't make it into this one and some things that I probably mentioned in this one that I didn't have in the first version and that's just how it. Goes but for me, that is all about skillful effort I could have decided right. Then you know what? I'm just GONNA push through and get this done 'cause I've already been sitting here for fifteen to twenty minutes and just rerecord it but maybe it wouldn't have come across in the best way that could because I, would have been rushing to get. It done because I'd be feeling in the back of my head. I've already set all this. So it's fun to see it even in little things. This idea of skillful effort it's always arising. It's always there and I always have the ability to ask myself. Could I be more skillful with the effort that I'm putting into this or that whatever the thing? Is that I'm working on and whether that sitting to meditate mindfulness has practice the effort I put into maintaining healthy relationships with people that I love and care about or a recording a podcast or packing may gear to go flying know whatever it is. There's effort involved and I am now entertaining this from the perspective of what kind of skillful effort. Can I be putting in rather than just working hard for the sake of working hard, and again, I don't want to discount the idea of working hard I think hard work goes a very long way. And I would say that's the invitation at the end of this. You know that hopefully you'll be able to take this concept and think about it and the context of work or parenting or. Going to school or. Going out and walking your dog or whatever whatever it is or especially mindfulness right mindfulness as a practice. And to be able to sit in an recognize as you look inward, do I know myself well enough to be able to be more skilful with regards to the effort that I'm putting into this thing that I'm trying to do and to attack it from that angle of skillful effort versus unskillful effort and see if you can improve in any of those areas. Just. Based on the understanding that like my students someone who knew himself pretty well was able to put in just the right amount of effort to excel and to accomplish the goal he had set out to do and you know as an update, he finished the course. He had seven Solo flights by the by the end of everything and he did really well. One of them was a successful takeoff and landing and I was so proud of him and so impressed with the effort that he put him because he knew, I knew and the other students in the class knew how hard it was for him to get through the training. And it was a very emotional bonding experience. When he landed from his first flight, we were also proud of him and we were all hugging him and just so excited for what he had accomplished here was someone who has sixty seven years old and was finally living the dream of flying through the air You know with your feet dangling under you and and it, and it wasn't easy but he had just the right amount of effort. To make that dream a reality and that's at the heart of what I think. We're trying to understand when it comes to skillful effort in terms of mindfulness as a practice. So flee some of that makes sense and that's all I have that I wanted to share this podcast episode of excited to be back home and getting caught up on on my routine and to start recording other podcast episodes and hopefully not doing it while on. Mute. So that's all I have for this one. Thank you for listening until next time.

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Wiki Ladies

The Good News Podcast

05:16 min | 2 years ago

Wiki Ladies

"Welcome to the good news podcast. I'm calling and I'm Neil. We're here to share with you all the sonic joy. We can find good news and delightful moments. Beaming right here years from the cards against humanity studios in Chicago. Today's episode or highlighting the work of a team of volunteers, they are adding overlook stories of incredible women to Kapika the real deal. Is that what Kapika has a huge problem with gender bias. This is really important would media is the fifth most popular website worldwide in January. The English language version had over seven point, three billion with a b. page views billion. That's more of us than there are people crazy. I mean, some people are going to ice. Whoa. Down lax calling. Why we share some of these female focused Wicky entries. Very cool. I love that idea. Geraldine law horn, miss law horn was a figure of the American deaf blind community. A performer actress pianist, then instructor at the Halle institute for the blind and visually impaired at sixty seven years old. She became the first deaf blind African American to earn a college degree in the United States America. And need up a call is an astrophysicist and cosmetologists specializing in dark matter the structure of the universe quasars and the formation of galaxies. She is the Eugene Higgins professor of strategy at Princeton University. So previously, if you have been listening since the outset of the good news bag, that beginning the beginning, the big bang of the good news back pretty early on. We talked to Zach McDowell who is a professor at the university of Illinois Chicago who uses what compete to help teach some of his classes, and it was a great conversation. We're going to play a little clip from that interview where he talks about sort of this gender imbalance problem on Wikipedia. I do wanna talk. You mentioned women are kind of under represented on Wikipedia because of the the wicked pedia-. Trigger or editor. So do you have any thoughts or recommendations on how we get more diverse knowledge on wicked pedia we pedia is filled with wonderful people. I have amazing, wonderful friends who are we competed editors, but at the same time, they edit for fun there volunteer. So if you're super interested in battleships, go ahead and write that battleship, but maybe you never read a bunch of Jane Austen novels and okay, you don't want to write that because it's not even on your radar. So I'm not saying that it's a bad thing that people writing this. I'm saying that what we need is a more diverse editorship what we does and teaching with Wikipedia can do is that about sixty percent of my students have been women. So just getting them to edit what they're interested in alone is already changing the face of Wikipedia in the. Last two years. The Wiki project women in red actually sites that in November of twenty fifteen. The amount of biographies on women in Wikipedia was about fifteen percent of biographies. And now it's about seventeen percent, which doesn't sound like a ton. But that's, that's all bought a biography. Wikipedia is really huge. So there were making small amounts of were making small improvements make it a more welcoming place. And this is a complicated thing that I think that what is very heartwarming is that the way comedian foundation is really aware of this and they're working in great strides to try to address these gaps this diversity issues because this is I said, before this is this is a volunteer organization. So how do you get a more diverse volunteer group that wants to write a general knowledge encyclopedia? Right. And I think one of the things that that they've done really well is they've been able to say, hey, look. Do you see yourself? Do you see your interest represented in in these Wikipedia articles, go search for things that you're interested in. If you don't find them, let's teach you how to write it because we want your voice. Do you have a favorite woman entry on wicked pedia tweet us link at the good news pod. Thanks for listening, good news, great, or maybe wanna. Tell us a joke idea. Also great Email us at good news at cards against humanity dot com or leave us voicemail at seven, seven, three, two one, seven zero one, five, six. You can also tweet us at the good news pad. Most of our music is by putting same place same time tomorrow.

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The Best Investment Writing Volume 3: Corey Hoffstein  Factor Fimbulwinter

The Meb Faber Show

17:41 min | 1 year ago

The Best Investment Writing Volume 3: Corey Hoffstein Factor Fimbulwinter

"Welcome podcast listeners. We have a fantastic episode for you today. Last year. When we published the best investment writing volume two we offered authors the opportunity to record an audio version of their chapter to be releases a segment of the podcast and listeners loved it this year we're bringing you. The entire volume of the best investment writing volume three in podcast awed gas format. You'll hear from some of the most respected money managers and investment researchers all over the world enough for me. Let's get to our guest and let them take over for this special episode. Hi this is corey hops stain and i am the co founder and chief investment officer of newfound research. Newfound research is a quantitative asset management firm with a focus on risk managed tactical asset allocation strategies. We were founded in august two thousand eight and are based out of boston massachusetts to learn more about our firm you can visit us at think. Newfound dot com or our blog blog dot think newfound dot com or listen to our podcast flirting with models. I'm going to read a piece titled factor symbol <unk> winter published in june twenty eighteen. Summary value investing continues to experience a trough of sorrow in particular. The traditional price of the book factor has failed to establish new highs since december two thousand six and sits in a twenty five percent drawdown while price to book has been the academic measure of choice for twenty five plus years. Many practitioners have begun to question question. Its value pun intended. We have also witnessed the turning of the tides against the size premium with many practitioners no longer considering bring it to be a valid standalone anomaly. This comes thirty five plus years after being first published with this in mind we explore the evidence that would be required for us to dismiss other already established anomalies using past returns to establish prior beliefs leafs we simulate out forward environments in use bayesian inference to adjust our beliefs over time recording how long it would take for us to finally dismiss a factor we find that for most factors we'd have to live through several careers to finally witness enough evidence to dismiss them outright. Thus while factors factors may be established upon a foundation of evidence there forward use requires a bit of faith in norse mythology thimble that they're commonly referred to in english as symbol winter is a great and seemingly never ending winter it continues for three seasons seasons long horribly cold years that stretch on longer than normal with no intervening summers it is a time of bitterly cold old sunless days where hope is abandoned and discord rains this winter to end all winters is eventually punctuated by ragnarok doc a series of events leading up to the great battle that results in the ultimate death of the major god's destruction of the cosmos and subsequent rebirth breath of the world investment mythology is littered with ragnarok styled blow ups and we often assume the failure of a strategy strategy will manifest as sudden catastrophe in most cases however failure may be more likely to resemble thimble vinter a seemingly seemingly never ending winter in performance with returns blown to and fro by the harsh winds of randomness value investors can attest to this in particular the disciples of price to book have suffered greatly as of late with expensive stocks having outperformed cheap stocks for over a decade read the academic interpretation of this factor sits nearly twenty five percent below its prior high watermark seen in december two thousand and six expectedly a large number of articles have been written about the death of the value factor some question the factor itself while other simply argue argue that price to book is a broken implementation but are these simply retrospective narratives driven by a desire to have an explanation explanation for a result that has defied our expectations consider if price the book had exhibited positive returns over the last decade. Would we be hearing from from nearly as large number of investors explaining why it is no longer a relevant metric to be clear. We believe that many of the arguments proposed for why a price to book is no longer a relevant metric are quite sound. The team at o'shaughnessy asset management for example wrote a particularly compelling piece that explores. Here's how changes to accounting rules have led book value to become less relevant metric in recent decades. Nevertheless we think it's worth taking a step back considering an alternate course of history and asking ourselves how it would impact our current thinking often. We look back on history because if it were the obvious course if only we had better prior information we say to ourselves we could have predicted the path rather we find it more useful wasteful to look at the past as just one realized path of many that could have happened none of which were preordained randomness happens <music> with this line of thinking the poor performance of price. The book can just as easily be explained by poor roll the dice as a can be by a fundamental mental break inapplicability in fact we see several potential truths based upon performance over the last decade one. This is all normal course performance variants for the factor to the value factor works but price to book itself is broken three three the price to book measure is overcrowded in its use and thus the quote unquote troughs of sorrow will need to be deeper than ever to get get the weak hands to fold and passed the alpha to those with the fortitude to hold for the value factor never existed in the first place. It was an unfortunate false. Positive that saturated the investing literature and broad narrative the problem at hand is really two fold first the statistical evidence supporting most factors is considerable and second the decade to decade variants and factor tur- performance is substantial taken together you run into a situation where a mere decade of underperformance likely cannot undo the previously established significance just as frustrating is the opposite scenario consider that these two statements are not mutually exclusive. One long price to book is broken and to price to book generates positive excess return over the next decade in fact factor returned variances. This is large enough that the proof is not in the eating of the short term return putting the small-cap premium is an excellent example of the difficulty difficulty in discerning in real time the integrity of an established factor the anomaly has failed to establish a meaningful new hi since it was originally published in nineteen eighty-one only in the last decade nearly thirty years later had the tides of the industry. Finally we seem to turn against it. As an established anomaly at potential source of excess returns thirty years the remaining remaining broadly accepted factors for example value momentum carried defensive and trend have all been demonstrated to generate excess risk adjusted justin returns across a variety of economic regimes geographies and asset classes creating a great depth of evidence supporting their existence what evidence then would make us abandon faith from the church of factors to explore this question. We ran a simple experiment for each factor. Our goal was to estimate how long it would take to determine that a factor was no longer statistically significant. Our assumption is that the salient features of each factors return pattern will remain the same. I e auto correlation conditional hetero skedaddle this ity skewness discourtesies etc but the foreword average annualized return. We'll be zero since the factor. No longer works towards this end end. We ran the following experiment. One take the full history for each factor in calculate prior estimates for menia annualized turn and standard error of the mean to d- mean the time series three randomly select a twelve month chunk returns from the time series and use that data to perform a beijing update to our mean annualized return four repeat step three until all the annualized return is no longer statistically non zero at ninety nine percent confidence threshold for each factor d'oeuvres. We ran this test ten thousand times creating a distribution that tells us how many years into the future we would have to wait until we were certain from a statistical perspective affective that the factor is no longer significant based upon this experiment sixty seven years is the median number of years. We will have to wait until we officially declare price to book h._t._m._l. As it's known in the literature to be dead at the risk of being morbid did we're far more likely to die before the industry finally sticks a fork in priced book. We perform this experiment for a number of other factors including size quality low volatility and momentum and see much the same results it takes decades before before sufficient evidence mounts to dethrone these factors now it is worth pointing out that these figures for a factor like momentum wintom might be a bit skewed due to the design of the test. If we examine the long run returns we see fairly docile return period profile while punctuated by sudden insignificant drawdowns often called quote unquote momentum crashes since a large proportion of the cumulative losses are contained in each of these short but pronounced drawdown periods de meaning the time series ultimately means that the majority of twelve month periods actually early exhibit positive returns in other words by randomly selecting twelve months samples. We actually expect a high frequency of those samples to have a positive return for example using this process. Just under fifty percent of rolling twelve month return periods are positive for value size quality and low volatility l. attila the factors respectively for momentum that number is closer to fifty five percent furthermore. If you drop the worst five percent of rolling twelve twelve month periods for momentum the average positive period is one point four times larger than the average negative period taken together not only are you more likely to select a twelve month period. That's positive but those positive periods are on average. One point four times larger than the negative negative periods we pick except for some rare less than five percent cases. The process of the task was selected to incorporate the salient features for each factor however in the case of momentum it may lead to somewhat outlandish results conclusion while an evidence based investor. Mr should be swayed by the way to the data. The simple fact is that most factors are so well established that the majority of current practitioners will likely go our or entire careers without experiencing evidence substantial enough to dismiss any of the anomalies therefore in many ways. There's a certain faith required to use them going forward. Yes these are ideas and concepts derived from data. Yes we have done our best to test their robustness out of sample across time geographies and asset classes yet. We must also admit that there is a non zero probability however small it is that these these are false positives a fact we may not have sufficient evidence to address until several decades hence and so a bit of humility is warranted did factors will not suddenly stand up and declare themselves broken and those that are broken will still appear to work from time to time instead the death of a factor will be more thimble winter than ragnarok not so violent to be the end days but enough to cause pain and frustration komo among investors addendum. We received a large number of in down notes about this commentary which fall upon to primary lines of question russian. We want to address these points point one. How were the tests impacted by the bayesian inference process. The results of the tests within this commentary are rather astounding. We did seek to address some of the potential flaws of the method we employed but by and large we feel the over arching conclusion remains on a solid foundation while we only presented the results of the bayesian inference approach this commentary as a check. We actually retested to other approaches. I a bayesian inference approach assuming that forward returns would be a random walk with constant variance. It's based upon historical variance and zero mean and second ford returns simulated using the same bootstrap approach but the factor actor was being discovered for the first time in the entire history was being evaluated for its significance. The two tests were in effort to isolate the effects of the different components of our tests. What we found was that while the reported figures changed the overall magnitude really did not in other other words the median death data value may not have been sixty seven years but the order of magnitude remained much the same decades stepping back. These results were somewhat of a foregone conclusion. We would not expect an effect that has been determined to be statistically significant over a hundred year period to unravel in a few years furthermore we would expecting number of scenarios that continue to bolster the statistical strength just due to randomness alone aw point to why are we defending price the book the point of this commentary was not to defend price to book as a measure rather it was to bring up a larger point as a community quantitative investors often leverage statistical significance as a defense offense for the way we invest. We think that's a good thing we should look at the weight of the evidence. We should be data driven. We should try to find ideas ideas that have proven to be robust over decades of time and when applied in different markets or with different asset classes still work. We should want to find strategies that are robust to small changes in parameter ization. Many quantum would argue including us among them however that there also needs to be a why why does this factor work without the why we run the risk of glorified data mining with the why we can choose for ourselves whether we believe the effect will continue going forward of course. There's nothing that prevents the y. From being pure narrative fallacy perhaps we have simply we've story into a pattern of facts with price to book one might argue. We have done the exact opposite. The effect technically remains statistically significant and yet plenty of ink has been spilled as to why it should not work in the future the question we must this answer then is when does statistically significant apply and when does it not. How can we use it as a justification in one place and completely ignore art in others furthermore if we're going to rely on hundreds of years of data to establish significance. How can we determine when something is broken. If the statistical statistical evidence doesn't support that conclusion price the book may very well be broken but that's not the point of this commentary the point it is simply that the same tools we use to establish and defend factors may actually prevent us from tearing them down.

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How to turn painful experiences into good causes

Negotiating For Life

19:47 min | 2 weeks ago

How to turn painful experiences into good causes

"What's up everybody this Jeremy and you're listening to the negotiating for life podcast where we help you level up in your health. You're wealthy your relationships pretty much all things life today we're GonNa talk about negotiating pain and disappointment. You guys I WanNa talk to you about pain. It, we're we've experienced so many like Oh. Man Do we need any more? This is not going to be a sad thing actually excited about this because I think that pain which is inevitable. It can actually be a positive how in the world can you turn your disappointment, your unmet expectation, the things that are painful in your life how can you turn them into positives and I want you to know I'm not one of those guys that actually says ages move on just strap it on and let's go. You know pull up your boot straps its role I am not that person as a matter of fact, if you're going through a major pain right now in your life I want to encourage you actually don't don't be the person who right away looks purpose in it. I learned too late in life that yes. Every pain can be utilized for good. I believe that all things can work out for good that does not mean that all things are good. That doesn't mean that just because something can be used for good that suddenly it's supposed to be good. That's the purpose in it. When I was young I was diagnosed with an illness and there is nothing good about that illness there was nothing good about it. My son had his heart broken in sixth grade. It was not good. It was not good last year in two thousand nineteen my business went backwards literally by thirty plus percent. That was not good. There's nothing good that I liked about that. However, all of those instances, all of those things have been in some way in my life or in the life of my son or in our business, they have all been used for good. So want to encourage you if you are facing pain right now if you are facing disappointment number one, don't just brush over it. You gotTA. Feel the field I give you permission today to feel the disappointment to feel the pain. One of the things when someone were to if someone were talking to me and they tell me this actually just happened today someone said, well, this happened in this happened in this happened but I'm good. So let's work on and I and I just had to pause. We just have to pause and I WANNA give you permission to take a breath and pause. The Bible talks about being still. Being still and Yes, knowing that God is good. Your situation may not be good. But. It's okay to take a breath and just be still. And to take it all in and go I am hurting I am disappointed. Bad. Things have happened. Things did not turn out the way. I. Wanted Them to turn out. You got to feel to feel if you don't feel the feeling, you'll continue to battle that feeling. So I'm all about it. You got to feel it, and at the same time I want you to know that even though they are not good. Disappointing moments, failures, and pain. Where I get excited as they can be used for good they can be used for good i. am talking to you today because of something happened to me at sixteen years old and it changed the trajectory of my life forever. That is for good. A bad thing happened as you've been used for good and it's reached thousands of people four. Good. But at first, I had to acknowledge that it was not good. I had to acknowledge that it was not good. So. How do we take the not good thing and see it be used for good. What kind of stance when you have that says I may be down but I'm not defeated. Right, that's the thing it's okay to feel down but recognize you're not to feed it. So how do we do that in our life? How do we do that in our business? How do we do that in relationships? How do we negotiate painful moments the pains of life Failure in life how do we negotiate that? I'm GonNa give you three things. These three things you guys. These are so good and I want to encourage you because I talk about this a lot on my instagram feed, and we we we we we talk about this stuff a lot. If you're not already following, can we connect on Instagram I like having this conversation with you but I would much rather have. To, and forth between the two of us, I would like to have a real conversation with you. Can you go over and find me a Jeremy? Knicks that's simple Germany vimy I want to connect with you, and let's have a real conversation. That's my ultimate goal for today's that you and I just connect and so as I'm speaking to you right now open up your. Your phone I won't say your iphone even though come on, you should be using an iphone. Just kidding. Open up your phone and go over and just go to instagram type in Jeremy Necks and let's connect I really want to do that today. But. As we're going, here's where this is where you can have massive change and transformation in your life today as you're negotiating pain. As you are going through disappointment or failure. You may be maybe failed big time. This is why I'm not scared to take risks. This is why I'm all about like leaving one job go to another job. This is why I'm all about starting the next group starting the next challenge starting the next whatever. Getting Ready here in the future I'm excited about it. WE'RE GONNA launch a summit. I'm so pump for the summit. You guys are GonNa. Love it. It's coming. I'm not telling you everything yet, but I'm excited and it's why I'm not scared to do it. So I'm like well, not that I'm not scared. It's why I'm willing to do it afraid because. Even, if I were to fail goodwill come from it, even if there's pain in the process goodwill come from it, and so here's what you need to know about your pains disappointments in your failures. Three things that will help you turn the not good to be used for good news for one. This is really important when you experienced disappointment pain or failure. When you do this when you experience it I, want you to embrace creativity and rejected the idea of quitting. Did, you hear that you need to embrace creative? You're like, what does that have to do with it? I believe the tough things in life. The pains of life gives us an opportunity for creative to be creative. I. Believe they really do they give us opportunity to see things from a new perspective. Pain has this way of jarring us and we can begin to see things from a new perspective. I remember when my youngest son was playing football and he still plays football but he was playing football and he was up against a really big dude and he got hit really hard in the end zone and he said to us wing is looking up he said everything just looked green and as we talked about that first of all made sure he was safe and he wasn't injured but talked about that like well, what did you learn from that and how like what can you do differently like so you don't see green again and we joke around because pain changes the way you see things. Pain. Gives you an opportunity to be creative. And so I believe you can embrace creativity and the idea of quitting that a discouragment or a frustration is not an opportunity to quit, but it's an opportunity to get creative. You will be able to create solutions for yourself and for others out of the midst of your pain I heard this story I love the story of this farmer. He was a chicken farmer and they had this big plot of land and the problem with where he was a chicken farmer was and his land in particular was that every season when the rains would come which farmers like the rains would come. It would flood his land and he had to figure out ways to get all of his chickens moved out and up to higher ground so that he could save their lives and he was frustrated and it was so disappointed he just wanted to be a chicken farm. That's all he loved the idea of being chicken farmer, but he not stop these chickens from drowning. and not so fresh but he wasn't willing to give him his farm and he was stomping around and finally his wife said, what is the problem and he said every year I can't figure this out every year we lose more and more chickens because I can't get them all to higher ground. It's limiting us we can't bring in more chickens because we're GONNA. Lose chickens I don't I can't carry them all the higher ground, the floods you're killing the chickens but I really want to be a farmer. And she looked at him so annoyed. And at the same time so wanting to help him and she looked at him, she said I have an idea he goes will what. She said by ducks. You take for a moment and take that in by ducks. Because ducks loved the flooding season. So you want to be a farmer via duck farmer. The point is get creative embrace creativity when you fail. Just curb embrace that creativity that says this isn't a failure. This is a this is a chance to learn something different to do something different. This isn't I'm not I'm not up against a wall. I've just come up against something that I need to learn to break through or go around or go over. Some of them have on this on this podcast I helped him do a a summit recently and I will tell you. She faced major disappointment and I'm not going to give it all away but she faced major disappointment because circumstances changed and something that she did every year for women. was she had a conference every year for women, but she couldn't do it because of the changes. Dacoven nineteen. It gave her an opportunity to get creative and you know what that creativity did. She took her conference online. And knowledge you take it online but she opened it up to people that could never come from. A physical conference, they wouldn't be able to get their customer much money. They just couldn't do it. So she was able to go globally instead of locally, which then led to almost double the number of women. It opened up the door for have really awesome speaker that she's always dreamed of having, and then it led to her opening up a special group for women which she filled. That she had never done because she got creative she made the pivot. We're GONNA talk about pivots in a future podcasts and really excited about that number two. If. You really want to get through disappointed and turn it into encouragement. You have to adopt a learner's mindset. Now I already said creativity. I. Mean this I mean there's going to be moments that you thought you were creative and it just flopped and I have watched so many people experienced the pain of failure. He's throw their sucker in the sanding I quit. They give up on themselves they quit on their dream because they thought they were being innovative. They thought they were being created, and there's first solution their second solution their third solution didn't work and so they just quit. But what I learned. And I love I love the way that Marian Wright. edleman. She's the founder of the Children's Defense Fund. She's received all kinds of distinguish awards including the presidential. Medal of freedom. Here's what she says. She says, relates to failure that failure is just another way of learning to do something. It's just another way of learning to do something it's part of the process. John Maxwell says that facing difficulties is inevitable learning from them is what's optional? Facing, difficulties, it's going to happen. Whether you choose to learn from those difficulties or not. That's the option. That's the option. What can be learned from failure what can be learned from disappointment. How can I learn from this? How can I grow through this one of the things that I really like to ask myself after every circumstance but really after a bad one after a bad experience, I have to ask this question. I say whether it's really three questions you have to ask yourself what worked what did work well What we're well, I, told you in two thousand, nineteen that my business lost over thirty percent. We've made all that up because we've asked these kind of questions. What worked well. In every failure there's something good something good happened. Even if that's something good is I figured out one way that really does not work. There's always something good. So what worked What didn't work? What didn't work beyond, write it down what didn't work What is frustrating about this? What is disappointing about this? What did I love about this? What was hard was easy. What was awesome. What sucked? And then the third question you have to ask yourself is. What could you try next time? What could you try next time? Worked, what didn't work what's next. If you can adopt those kind of questions and have a learner's mindset. Here's what you're going to discover that a bend in the road is not the end of the road unless you fail to make a turn. All you hear me say that again I heard this from somebody I love it. A bend in the road is not the end of the road in less. You fail to make a turn and when you have a learner's mindset, you can negotiate the turns. You can negotiate failure because you just adjust. You just adjust you make changes to get you where you WANNA go. He need to understand something failures or not the end of the road there just a bend in your road. So make the turn learn. Determined to learn last year when we lost that, we had to ask questions of ourselves. What did we do wrong what could we do better? What did we do? Really well. What could we do better? What could we do? Different? Adapting to a learner's mindset. So number one, you've got to embrace creativity number chew you have to adapt a learner's minds number three you have to take personal responsibility for your success. oftentimes, pain here's what really leads you to wanting to do you start to say things like well if they would've just whoever they is Or, if I just had this, then it would have been better or I'm just not enough. I am just not talented enough. I'm not wealthy enough. I don't have enough influence I don't have enough as I. Don't have enough support. Everyone, else gets whatever but I just don't get whatever. That's oftentimes pain leads to this victims mindset. One of the choices that you can determined to have in your life is that life is happening for you not to you. To avoid that victims mentality, you start to look at life and say, I'm responsible for my life and these things that are happening in my life they're happening for me they're not happening to me. They're having for me to grow for me to learn for me to get creative. They're happening for me to prove that I believe in something so much that I won't I will not stop. Whenever something gets in the way of my success that something is an opportunity for growth in my life it's an opportunity even. Disagreements with me and my wife pain in our marriage. Although they are bad. They can be used for good when I determined that this is not happening to me. This is happening for me to grow the person for me to grow as a husband for her to grow wife for her to grow as a woman for us to grow in our marriage. These are opportunities for us to grow because life does not happen to us it happens for us. So. Many of US ask why me? That's the victims mindset. Why me the way you said you could say why me? Why me Why is this happening to me? There's gotta be something in it for me. But if you're not careful why me moments. There really is a short trip to from why me to me. It's a really short trip from Y Mita Whoa? Is Me. In Nineteen Fourteen Thomas Edison by the way I love Thomas Edison this dude nothing stopped him. He's got some of the greatest. Of all time, if you just go look up quotes by Thomas Edison I'm telling you they're the most amazing things. But in nineteen fourteen, he had an explosion it his plant that cost him about twenty, three, million dollars in today's in today's money. He lost tons of buildings at his plant, and here's what happened is the flames were engulfing all of these buildings he grabbed his son and you're like Iran no no, he had a smile on his face. He grabbed his son he said, go get your mom and your friends 'cause they're never going to see a fire like this again and he smiled. Thomas Edison was determined to not let anything stop him from doing what he did, and here's what he did. He created inventions that changed the way that we experience life. After the fire he said although I'm sixty seven years old. I'll start all over again tomorrow. You hear that. That's determination. That's responsibility although I'm sixty seven years old I'll start all of this again tomorrow by the end of that year, he generated another ten million dollars in revenue. And although he had every right to, he didn't terminate one employees. He kept every employee even though he'd lost almost half his buildings generate over ten million dollars even though he lost twenty three, he generated ten million more before the end of the year. And never fired one employee. That is that's determination. Here's what he said in his words he said to do great things we need to be able to endure tragedy and setbacks. We've got a love what we do and it all and all that it entails good and bad. We have to learn to find joy in every single thing that happens find the good. You hear those words again to do great things we need to be able to endure tragedy and setbacks. We've gotTa love what do in all that it entails good and bad. We have to learn to find the joy. Every single thing that happens not everything will be good you guys. The good can come from everything. I'm GONNA close this episode I want you to hear this as you're thinking about, how can how can you take personal responsibility for your success? How can you adopt that learners mindset that says I'M GONNA learn from every failure disappointment. How can you embrace creativity that says even though? You may be facing very difficult circumstance. You're going to be innovative and creative and find a solution. As you're thinking about those three things I want you to hear it Virginia. Sader said she put it this way she said life is not the way it's supposed to be. It is the way it is. It's the way you cope with it. That makes the difference. Think about that and I'll say at one time and we're going in this episode life is not the way it's supposed to be. It's the way it is the way you cope with life is what makes the difference? I hope this helps you today I. Hope you'll go out and face those failures those disappointments. Those rejections and you'll look at each of them is yes they are bad and you'll feel too bad. But then you'll look at them as an opportunity for good to happen. We'll talk to you next time. Hey Guys I. Hope you enjoyed today's podcast episode. If you did Jimmy a favor, share it lake, it leave a review because I want more people just like you to be listening to the podcast.

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10-Year Anniversary Show

Busted Open

54:19 min | 1 year ago

10-Year Anniversary Show

"This is busted open podcast and listen to the whole show weekdays from nine am twelve pm eastern on sirius xm fight nation channel one fifty six welcome to the busted open podcast this is dave what greco on today's very special episode you'll hear are legendary ten year anniversary party from wrestlemania thirty five weekend in its entirety featuring my co host w w we hall of famers bully ray in mark henry plus tons of special guests including eric fisher jim ross pat mcafee and many more from w w we're all a favor march corbin we are saying oh man they say man you guys having a good productive couldn't make it out the hobbit narrow blue bird ten year anniversary party you stop which i thought was the guy in world for the busted open age and this is a celebration not only for the people here on they prefer all do that pack this way that started the line that night i have more drive valentine's day out the door down thirty six street down past the busted open they cannot blood that was the only way i garcia show it would be this man right here doug bartman co founder of both could open the glue that held this together doug thank you manfred joined the brother of course joining us if i'm not here where else would i be what would i be doing my brother without the family you're you're you're a big week now this topic corporation this is home home rather you know whenever whenever i talk about busted open and on the show we always talk about rock and roll you know and i always compared you know busted open to chess an these are the two guys that started this rock and roll band vicious gene simmons and this is paul stanley listen man mark were part of the show but if it's not dave end dog shit goes and of course you know if it wasn't for fully end if it wasn't for marketing it wasn't tommy we wouldn't have been able to get to the next level isn't it this is this is extremely rare without tommy i mean carrying tommy with jerry diva oh so who is great you know far dug in idaho usher in this new era with bullying with mark and doug if you remember bully was always a big supporter of the show from early on but more or with one of our first ever get well on busted open so technically if you want it goats any archives and you're gonna hear about this on a very special show on april twenty eighth through april twenty eighth doug and i are are gonna plus the actual anniversary show because are anniversaries april twentieth they were gonna do that on sunday april twenty eighth so make sure you have that so real quick on the busted open history side first ever interviewed technically with edge that lives are more that will last interview that was what cohen heard and gave us the go ahead do the show and then or first actual interview for the show with mark henry yeah it was it was the best part about this story though is that we're in what we call the fish bowl at are headquarters in new york city just down the road an mark is economic on and there's dave of course being the groove and he tries the you know like some elbow jobs on me and give me a chokehold and that sort of thing and of course are head of security standing outside saying this is a violation we yes we almost got a written up with hr that that's right so this guy yeah thanks again one of our first ever remotes and i think we have video of it is when a wrestlemainia thirty one you and i sang mark henry interesting so what's what's playing out right now a buddy going against that somebody's gonna get their feet above above britain's zach britton back to clear up breaking exactly how hard so wait what i wanna know is mark then you're the first guest on the show they invited did you what did you think of these guys at the time when they really didn't invite me i find myself i'm a i'm a sports talk radio martin anybody that's ever been in the car with me i'll tell you that the only time i listen to music is when i'm falling asleep so i gotta wake myself up for the most part all listen to sports talk so even before they became on sirius xm hours listening i'll i listened the pilot radio oh we got a guy here in austin from austin met a has a radio show in a liar against do i listen i listen to sports radio i listened the wrestling radio so if you got a pilot show and i'm driving at two in the morning very likely i'm listening to you stuff oh i thought you meant you were listening to a radio show because you want to become a pilot that that's normal is saying that tommy when he's not independent of i had an interesting real quick though you mentioned stu he came over the us and we're talking legacy in ten years and he said because of you guys i would not have a radio show 'cause they go we opened up we we do wrestling like journalist covering sports okay that was so important to us when we started because you guys are athletes you guys are entertainers you guys deserve an incredible immense amount of respect for what you do and what you put your body through not just in the ring but the travel the whole circus that is wrestling people need to know about that and i feel like this show opened it up to eight real serious discussion appearing discussion discussion that really resonates with any yes yes and it's always about the nation that's what we want to the two way talk we want to the conversation back and forth but the busted open nation because i respect everybody that's a part of this nation i respect your opinion watching it going i want the feedback that we mentioned marks first appearance on busted open you remember bullies first appearance now let me take you back well i do now we want to the get you on this is when you were with cnn this is when you're world champion with cnn and we would ask me are all the time we get bully on could we get bully on like nobody wants to do our throats you say as you come on the show so finally i forget what pay per view it was it was it was the bouncer gloria arizona arizona bumper going arizona he had like a fan but so we were doing interviews and then we're able to get you on and i remember you sat down for a second you put your beer down and then he said hey i gotta guys they gotta do something else i'll be back in that time i took a beer and i down found it as fast as i could and i left there empty beer bottle right where you're about to say it was so funny you sit down any pick up your beer bottle and you're like like almost like i could've sworn is all but now it's empty but you're always a great guest on the show you're the one who finished my dear oh yeah yeah well i know is i think it was right after that then i start the car the daddy soda and i stopped cornyn beer by the way what time is it two oh nine and i still don't have a daddy soda in my head that i really had here we have laid out even talk here's the thing about this show you know you hear about you know the dirt seats and all of these a you know experts so to speak that always very this stuff that addresses we try to do the reason i like this show so much because even though they even though they were you know opinionated and they weren't afraid so you know tell you if you suck they always did it in a respectful way they have shown more respect for the wrestling business ends the wrestlers steelers than anybody outside of the ring and i've ever met now two seconds that the reason i don't know if y'all remember not but the first conversation that we had when i call him i told you i respect the fact that job though talk bad about the business of wrestling you don't try to it expos ain't right on what happens in wrestling and you don't act like you know everything from the beginning to the end because there wasn't up that job didn't know that i would say listen if you have a question don't come on the air and just air dirty laundry because that's like talking about the argument you have which white i'm talking about come to mean give me a call like you got my number anytime i'm a wealth of knowledge i'll give it to you but let's let's talk let's have a dialogue before you expose that sometimes i feel like some stuff was exposed exposing the yeah and when you when you when you went there with the business just hurt me to court and maybe not wanna listen so that's one of the main reason why i started calling me oh yeah and listen the the respect for you guys in particular mark i mean we've had you how many times for yeah you know special show up you know the history of texas wrestling special we are first anniversary are second anniversary just knew that you had the knowledge of the business that would let the listeners know let the nation know exactly what's going on within the limits of what we wanna talk about where you saw the it was actually that interview and maybe one other where we finally felt of validation it was like your rubber stamp saying hey shows good i'll come on the show it was like almost don't release throws like oh you were doing good ten we have an artist the guy you're not gonna believe this now because of all the people that are here but when i first started this show we don't know if anybody was even listening for we got to cohen change the channel islands on it but i certainly that actually happened so when when the show that you know people were listening now more back me up on this now even the boys are listening all the boars the listening i'm just saying i don't i don't think it's just because that were on the show i think that the word is gotten around that if you wanna know how you're perceived by the fan base tune in a bus is over because the fans will call in and tell you the nature of the nation nation will call in and tell you miss and i don't know if i necessarily feel that i'm not i'm not agreeing with that and then somebody else will call in and then they'll say well why why why why won't you like it and then they'll have a dialogue about what it is you give the insight open nation of the fan base to figure out how to change what you're doing in the ring y'all have in the fact that he was throwing own dog and i started to fan mark in building brought the credibility and you guys are the foundation a busted open eight is the foundation dog may give you a hug i love you thank you so much for everything about it can be a part of it is absolutely matter what no matter what i do there is no doubt that this like i said i start off on this is home this is my own this is my family and i love it i love every second i love you buddy i love you podcast w way world heavyweight champion so i'll bring everybody got a big winner for the rest of the show i will say you know how much of a fan i ever pick out the wi roles have you have you know john how are you sir i'm gonna move over here because i gotta give a world heavyweight champion no no no no no no no no i'm not i'm not on on on a nick al this is in the house you're n w away world heavyweight champion how are you sir like a million bucks and i not look like a million how are you sir you look good feel really good bat suit is worth more than we make in a month and i know i know it's true box out i i gotta be honest with you i get chills how are you could just look at look at the arteries that you don't truly these world heavyweight champion 'cause when you think of w you way you'd think gal this man who travels around the world to defend the ten pounds of go so that happens here at our ten year anniversary party this is truly a spectacle thank you so very kind of you know the first time meeting my my insurance policy camille guess camille how're you know she's i thought i won't look i won't know how i came for my eyes i don't even know if it's okay in the water that we didn't understand where we say that i'm standing at attention out of respect for that ten pounds the goals that you continue defend on a regular basis yet now i will say this and and and i've seen some of your frustration on social media i understand that i usually root for whoever's in the ring against you but again that's out of respect and the fact of what you've done for this ten pounds ago and you truly are an amazing care will think you're questioning that now everybody just it's just more of a kissing her ashura because you're here that i'd i'd i'd like to ask the question go ahead this is interesting okay so nick yeah so we know in the crooked top you'll be defending u n w way world heavyweight championship against mardi throw right yes sir that's been set in stone yet there is a good chance that after tonight mardi might be com the ring of honor world heavyweight in one of the co main event which is the three way ladder match how do you feel about defending me n w eight championship and possibly having another shot at the ring of honor championship well some of you may recall this little show i was involved with gold all in last year they sold it out and in preparation for that show i refer to myself as the dealer fast forward to right now some of you may think that might be a little disappointed but i'm not competing tonight at madison square garden but the reality of the situation is very simple when i saw they three way for these ring of honor world championship unfold i understood the and opportunity presented itself may be a double champion because let's be real if my skill wins the ring of honor well championship an end but once you know me i'm a man of my own opinions but but once i think i probably should have been you know most people in this room and i hope my skill does win the ring of honor world championship tonight because it's my interest as a businessman man income crooked cop i could have the opportunity to hold to well championships well let me ask you is there any wrestler in the world you respect more than marty i think i respect a number of wrestlers on the same level as him but you know he and i were were great friends we we we broke into this business together legit you know we we've we've been friends since we were teenagers that he was a young kid who who offer a trainer frank listen he came to me and said hey can you can you give the kid a ride you know he he doesn't have a car doesn't have the ability to get the training school every week so i did again right and we became friends ever since then and to see what he's been able to do and everywhere i've been i've legitimately he tried to open the door for him and so now for us supposed to appear at madison square garden in in the capacities we are him in a in in one of the main event matches and me being the first nwf world champion is holly race to walk ins at madison square garden with a ten pounds the gold pretty good feeling not gonna lie so the travel together trained together you know each other is now in terms of fighting each other in the new avenue vanity fair that's pretty much where prince cultivators talent that you have any fan i'm a big on what's the next guy in pumping iron the arnold is posed the question about what happens if what about franco you know you couldn't pull this up on frank frank columbus is best one of his great friends and they posedly hypothetical of what if they're competing had the head and he's that on the day of the contest i'm his father he comes to me per device and that's how i feel about my relationship with my wow when the time comes and i'm the senior and he knows it's like nick nick they just brought up something really interesting you know light goes by so quick and his wrestling losing by even when he just mentioned that you are first man can carry bmw way rope everybody championship in madison square garden harley race i mean that's a big deal yes has that resonated with you absolutely my my appreciation and respect the historical aspect is being nwf world championship is to me the number one reason why we've been able to build it to the level that we have in such a short period of time in in about a month from now a well sorry about six weeks from now i'll be inducting or presenting the loose says awards the door refund junior as a collie flower club in las vegas nevada now dory junior jr commands a great level of respect and let's be honest he probably could have picked a number of people to resent that wards colliver early but he picked me you know and again that significance there's no loss in in recent months you've seen on ten pounds of gold interacting with dory and with holly race so i take only responsibility of reeducate in a new audience of importance and the prestige of what we carey here this seventy plus years of they ended up very well championship i continue the elevator into the modern era and make it the most important world championship in the entire business well you talked about responsibility but i also have to give you credit as well and this is disrespect on him story but since you become it w wait champion you have made nws those three letters procedures again do you sit back and say hey you know what i am the reason that this is so big right now i'm not only reason you know that's it there's there's there's no such thing as a self made man you know in any shape or form there's always somebody involved in our case it's a small team but we are team and nazi operative word but having said that yes i i think sometimes about some of these disappointments i've had in my career when when when my my career ended at dna and i decided not to resign i think i'm i don't think i'm alone in this opinion but i thought i would probably have an opportunity at w w we i think a lot of people thought the same thing and it didn't happen and there was a short period of time there where i saw i wonder where my place was and i do believe the things happen for a reason so i now looking at where we are now and everything we've done in the last year and thinking about all in with cody and i n n n w i seventy and all the things have been able to do for different continents in one year defending the world championship i truly believe i was meant to do this you know and that's when you feel that in your heart and you've got you know it resonates in the people understand it and believe it tonight the g one super hard at a sold out madison square garden on sunday sunday wrestlemania thirty five at metlife stadium but the next big show in historic show is that cracking up for nick out this is gonna is gonna i just wanna go one quick announcement about the prospect of you guys wanna exclusive announcement with as many of you may know the rock and roll express are appearing at the world cup in assigning capacity but i can't come from here today that the rock and roll express will compete in the market cap april twenty seven only pay per view you know i i mean this is something of a wise man once told me and he says some new or given opportunities and then that becomes come champion in the hand that takes all of us you take the opportunity and now incidents in you have taken you opportunity regardless of what company you work for everybody knows everybody knows that you carry founds because one of the most experienced scoring titles that anybody's ever had it might be the most disturbing might be mothers it's it's parental full title in his and to be able to see walks in owning i told you yesterday i respect the fact that humidity that because that's wasted a lot of men take care even can't well i printed out riverhead wi world heavyweight champion nick out this thank you so much for the time gentleman said podcast is one of the smartest history of pro wrestling wi the w w job so i said oh jeez yeah just making its way a lot of fans love eric eric how're you thank you so much for joining us please now very sharp everybody will be like a ten that's what i want to announce right now because of all of you because you guys are hurricane you are hitting one hell of an ovation here i don't ever wanna leave i don't want this moment stopped for me know if you feel like at one point you're the most hated and now you're the most loved when it comes to pro wrestling fan well exactly the kind of combined they love the hate me so it's it's okay i i appreciate that so does my banker inserted my wife and again you do a fantastic job with eighty three week thank you very much ashley conrad thompson does a great job i just show up and do it now you do a damn good job man what is it like the kind of just go through those moments those years those big events you know it's it's kind of a trip for me because i forgot most of you know and i know that sounds funny but when you are in it and you're doing it you know it's week after week mark you know it's like week after week after week matchup of the match show after show and they all kind of run together so when i do a show with conrad in it's like okay we're gonna talk about this show i have to go back and watch it on the w w we never 'cause i don't remember a damn thing and then when i see it as i see it almost for the first time so it's kind of a rush were you aware like ten hats to being the boss you know to be able to you know organize all the cat you know i'm sure that that was something that was very hard to do i mean i've never had to a man is the production staff in organized where we wanna be on tour in in in handling all day today duties like what more of that job was the hardest be within dealing with the town what's it doing the production that would be organized in office like hiring and firing like what was the hardest part honesty march the hardest part for me was dealing with the management above me in the beginning it was very easy because ted turner and they gave us a lot of freedom because ted love wrestling in this kind of like the wild wild west for me in the very beginning but later on it became more complicated when time warner got involved in aol got involved in it turned into a whole different culture and adjusting to that culture was a very different thing for me is it went from being almost like you know ten just let us do what we want to do it and gave us the ability to succeed or fail once time warner and an aol came and along they start demanding things like a bank not just for w c w buck for all of the divisions of of turner broadcasting in equip being fun at that point so they were they micromanaging you and telling you what's his money all rabbinate you having having the authority to do what you feel good or running a business that was a big part of it but the biggest part of it was when they got involved in the creative and they're not not so much telling us you know who should win who lose and all that kind of stuff but when they began to take to us you know for example when they brought me into his office one day and they said okay right but i know that you're you're making money hand over fist you know nobody else has ever been over make this thing success or resin but here's what we want you to do from now on and when they wanted me to make a show more family friendly i knew 'cause wwl you guys were right in the middle of attitude era and now they're telling us no no we don't wanna go there we wanna go for kids and families on what kind of work but that's what they wanna do and that's when it really became challenger eric it's no a you know everybody knows that went head to head with ben smith man and i'm sure during a heyday during those eighty three weeks that you probably try to get w c w into madison square garden it's if people have tried before were were you shocked that ring of honor in japan were able to get into a building that man families had a stranglehold on forever brother that is such an important point because you're right you know we we knew that in order to really really compete in order to really make a statement you had the madison square garden i mean that's the center of the universe when it comes to entertainment right and we try really really hard to make that happen we couldn't get it done because of mc man you know a family had had any sense build around that we couldn't get through it and it was fascinating to me when ring of honor who's able to achieve that and i think a lot of it has to do with now the the w w e is a public company and win a public company i don't like the throw the monopoly were out there but when a pub public company leverage is their relationships to appoint keeps other companies from participating it's a dangerous thing when you're a privately held company get away with that when you're publicly held companies a little tougher so i was amazed in in happy to see where everybody is just opinion this is not factual what i'm about to say i also think that because the debbie debbie spending a lotta time in brooklyn at the barclay i think madison square garden what's kind of flexing their muscles were saying you know what even though the barclay five times come here to a year maybe we should bring somebody else in two more times i think you're probably right mark it's common sense right i mean if you look at it from madison square garden point of view they'd been loyal to the wwf ww we now for generations really yeah and and then all of a sudden w w we spend a little time over barclay center is property like okay cool tip protect that i think they were in show clearing away because i think the garden which really select ww mean do their thing twice a year but hey man you're coming back home to new york to wrestlemainia and you won't even give us like act that you have a hall of famer anything so i think all the planets wind up an opportunity with their you know their job is a mess which is waking up in in a in a in a horse head on your bed i'm like i'm gonna let you know that i'm not happy with this situation and it's gonna leave a stain on your brain for a long time because this is wrestlemainia this is the biggest time of year as well memphis can leave a stain on and that was it and you know what i just wanna get off this one second i wanna say something in public and i wanna say to decide state i invented bully ray tonight i get to bring my creation madison square garden which as we know all the heard in the wrestling business but if you would've never handed me the ball i would never performing that buildings in vancouver sundays eric thank you so much for the time you've been a great guest over these ten years you've always been very graciously you're done i'm cutting them off on his own show because i know i've only got a couple of seconds left and i wanna say this man took an idea and he's turned it into one of the most popular shows a radio he believed in professional wrestling he believed it all you guys we believe in this team and i wanna say view in your heart so giving us credibility thank you so much thank you so much like what you're hearing judge busted open live weekdays from nine am twelve pm eastern on sirius xm fight nation channel one fifty six or on demand the sirius xm app w w we hall all the famer the one and only drawing busted on how i dumps it in a bone starts he's still upset about the oklahoma sooners twice so yes moscow neil moscow mule now i don't know if you saw the menu we have here for a ten anniversary party j r but at the bar you can get good old jay are moscow mule having right now strongly that role in the world thank you very much the longest day grow to end cricket dylan order daddy soda and of course the daddy joe henry guardless there's a lot going on first then you're in the way my daughter's sarah in abigail right the fraud there by the shirts they're going to say this hour an advocate gotta go say hi to you gotta say i don't care how would you show today good those who have passed a great artist is good good questions a lot of fun so it's a good day day good day i'm glad to be here all weekend exist in his world in have multiple streams of entertainment pro wrestling and everybody get along everybody being detained and nobody's questioning fighting over how many people showed up because everybody in town pretty much is here just see wrestling some sort of just like your places for displaces is food a garden is about to be pulled apart plays is gonna be for how they met like stay metlife stadium is going to be full so i mean it's it's it's a lovely time a pro wrestling right now river mark henry has spoken could lose vilma well some time jim got a first down one right in front of the other if you wanna get where you're going hard sorry that that that jay i'm so glad that you're part of our show because and i i've said this to you personally but i definitely wanna say now there were live on air in front of the hardcore busted open nation members you have been such a godsend to the show you've been a big supporter of busted busted open since day one you've been one of our best guy so i could not have this ten year celebration without you know it's like it's a show about pro wrestling that's a posted by wrestling fans and that deal today isn't that what we all are so i am the full support of any entity that promotes are are business that's why i'm not a big a a i don't have a lot of negative energy just put it in somebody else's failures i choose a long time ago not that long ago actually and unfortunately i decided not to leave my house in any more negative baggage kerryon kerryon riley norman is clean as no negativity and so that's what marks marcet about everybody getting along it's amazing how big the business could be if everybody just put their egos aside and put the fans first puts their marketing focus you're customers first is not unique common a concept first it is is a great concept but you know it's like it's something that's gotta be talk because there's so many people that we know that feel like the fan base belongs to them this is just this is my fan base rather they've been our wrestling you know so i mean to the fans is our wrestling every wrestler brand in the world but some people look at wrestling event this is my audience and i want a controller i don't wanna control the audience i want the audience to help me dictate was popular was good so that weakens bag better who is in the you know i i don't think anybody would have blamed you if you decide to stay in norman and you know just move away from the world the pro wrestling but i'm so glad you came back to it and you embrace it again now you're gonna be a part of eight w n here the chant ws your walk into i mean this is a whole new world but it's a cool world and people are excited about it and i'm so glad that you're gonna be a big part to two days i'm lucky i got a hot day when i thought the masters pretty much over and you know last year a this is a really great to me it right all over twenty six years but last couple of years i had a really a huge contract to do nothing and it sounds good on paper it sounds like you say well i love that deal when you're sixty seven any veteran alpha male or you're live event on top of your game in the hunt it's not that easy and i didn't want somebody else telling me jay are you're done j are will tell you when george done so that's my story when i leave and wwl dot out of anger or how angry at somebody that made me rich seriously i've been looking man i've been so lucky to make this money interestingly i never thought i'd even see much less have in my possession and now this is a bigger than i could ever imagine salva bless guy but i just i'm doing what i love to do and me that's not work so we're gonna love this new venture and see where it goes if they put a product on the screen is compelling i'll give them that compelling call now do i believe that to be fat i look forward to hearing it again a missed it i i i'm a new fan a new japan a over the last two years now and i've got a chance to hear you call guys in in being on his show all the prep work i mean i i watch every week a roughly around ten hours of wrestling because because i happen to be able to have an educated guess on what i'm talking about an knowing all these new guys like you seen guys in japan you seen the guy's a on nbc in his will like now you'll be able to report on these guys not just from what you see at eighty w but you saw before they got the ada so you know the history of these guys is this something that you would add to that i i've i've always hockey mark and day especially dave i can't get enough and when you find yourself in a nifty house kind of a widower thing it in this deal you know i i i asked rondo what makes me comfortable yeah i have to go to my sanctuary in those loving arms of something because it wasn't football season i ran immediately to my back to my business which part of my life most of my life so that wasn't that wasn't only push to go i went home and now the folks come on family believe that i have enough gas in the tank chase man i'm sixty seven years old you fucking cutter illinois kind of wears the deal you're gonna find out you're gonna kill this is jim rome to draw former guys know this as a performer you can't help but think that if i don't have confidence in me to do the job its biggest my ego is and who is nobody nobody should if i don't believe a winter and not get the job done that i shouldn't even have the opportunity to attempted luckily for me i found somebody that's gonna let me get back in the game and play and all i want is back in the game certainly when i say it all the time but let me say in front of him in front of all view the greatest voice in the history of the sport we'll all pro wrestling the one and only jim ross share thank you so much wrong over thank you for being a part of the ten year anniversary party i appreciate i said i guess hey what's up by the thrill sit down have a couple daddy sodas okay this is incredible good for you guys here the magic in this place these electric crowd i've seen all weekend pretty hot right crowd you deserve the first round using this formula well i mean you it's so facto there you don't need a job that i sit down pat you review but i know you lost weight and now you're a nurse xl go short for pat okay man gives the merge by by the merge by mark leaves off hopefully hey appreciate you know darn well not doing it here and mark i gotta i gotta do this i gotta give a big thank you to pat mcafee is wrong and this is why walk past shut up here i actually extended an invitation is somebody who you work very closely who did not show up and that sam rob i can't believe sam roberts will do that to you i can't believe it i love sam harris saint lawrence when you wanna know something i hope you give him shit when you see him later well i mean that's kind of a natural reaction whenever you look at sam roberts forgive him shit but now they're the greatest sports entertainment radio shows ten year anniversary i think he's crossed the line then we can never come back well pat let me just stop you right there i i understand you have to say the term sports entertainment but here are busted open we add to that mean you guys were rich already on the payments were swollen per radio here in boston now i gotta be honest if they don't have your part of monday night football knocking out there fucking fool a pretty good one pot talent the son of a bitch well i'm not as hot as you no way better than james went i think we can all appreciate that thank you he's much better football then i was though here's the deal so i don't resonate well with the suits in most places it's okay this goes back to whenever i was in elementary school hated by the principal hated by the teachers highschool same thing i get the west virginia rich rodriguez my coach hates everything about me i get to the coast general manager literally wants to meet acquit instead of continue to play with the team suits take me under dsp and i believe yuppies that her up at the top are not big fans of the sleeveless kid from pittsburgh so that's okay with me i'll just continue in wyoming being an internet guy and saying whatever the fuck i want on a very regular basis you know what talk about not being a good football player i saw you come on dude days ago kicker forty five your field now on i mean it was dead center you're talking talking breakdown the sector does still still got it i mean i think if i ever get back in the kicking football's it'll be in the field goal kicking roman set of punting because it could help build a hall of fame reza may one day but i wanna get back in the nfl routine mark i like the vitamins way too much risk pat let me ask you because you you played at a extremely high level any nfl and you you perform in some major games instead major crowd what's it like for you now to do the stuff with the w w e networks do the free shows like is it the same when you're performing in front of crowds you're performing on tv what's it like for you i just enjoy that moment of right before you go live like hey what you're about to do right now people are gonna see that same feeling you probably get the radio show like hey there's no fuck ups here like let's do it let's let's go for it that football experience from that that's kind of what i miss most of his whereabouts growing field a big mess could cost everybody a lot of money gamblers fantasy football owners my teammates coaches and i kind of miss that feeling but the pre show is very much like that's like here we got a lot of people who have no idea who i am about the fetus let's not fuck it up but you it's hard the mess it up when you're exposed as you are in that that's the thing that works in radio networks in television is you could turn the camera wrong and people are not they might shake they might roll a little bit but they damn show not gonna rattle well you're gonna put turn the jim rome turn the microphone all let me joe i don't put a leash on me let me tell you what i won't say in a way that i say it it'll resonate with people listen to and that's what i get when i hear you i see you on on the internet plans any kind of game that's a game i mean what what's the guy's name that you you should you videos where that you beat the hell a lot of all the time off who needs it quit yeah fuck boston leads the way he does great things right here today margaret brennan knew everything else sexualize i'm like so this is what i wanna do and i and i told you before i'm telling me what a delivery wow nice right the guy with a weird because my little their little mullet saying hey i'll tell you something something white people do the decision but i see you hitting three yeah i see you doing such a diverse set of skills that of games and i want i want you to start challenging somebody else and fox well i like the feel good though you know they get the other four okay so i played horse against lamar odom in las angeles okay all right lamar odom classic prostitute house visitor survivor however you know that whole thing he's a survivor of the prostitute outfit joyce right married in the car dashing family for a little bit but also six man of the year for a little bit incredible basketball player he played horse out no way timmy robert kraft and hang up wow wow wow that will bring you know robert kraft love that video is gonna get out there is that what robert kraft doing like just take the deal in make sure that you're penis is never on the internet yeah i'm i'm i'm guilty i don't want the video hey how you guys do whatever the hell you wanna buy a whole new city if you'd like i just don't want my penis on the internet that's a big deal but i just have a good time every day man i honestly do that's why it's been so interesting in this wrestling world because nobody has a clue why most people right outside the internet and all that people know who i am and i kinda regrets not going through the indies right i really do after i retired rip rogers restraining they used to train it over vw cr and there's a lot of conversations about meet potentially going down ob w kinda vernon my way through the ropes and kind of introducing myself to wrestling fans but then when michael cole comes and tells me he wants me to literally whatever the hell you want it he tells me zero directions bottle roses tells me do it oh just go we just wanna put a microphone on you and go i've been very fortunate for that but i do have one regret which is i couldn't build up our pay money to see you do a to a three week camp with red rocks hey i know i fans fans were because you really odd that tv joe i got my ass kicked he did bring me i i have i have a wrestling ring in my barred i bought it at three i'm pretty intoxicated after my rookie year god bless i think everybody's heard that story story got his wife yeah i forgot i forgot i ordered to it showed up at my house on an eighteen wheeler that's a true story i'm a kid that's not supposed to have money i got money in the internet existed i brought a lot of very dumb shit right doesn't sound dumb the meat butter wrestling ring one of my best investments i've ever had in my entire life cheap would obviously i think feels like this but reports coming in my house and training me in the morning in the barn and i was just getting my ass kicked were talking like welts from chops every single morning bunch of people coming through and we filmed it and they were beautiful but he's got to the point where michael cohen we're talking about microphones so the wrestling thing kind of got put to the side so who knows what's gonna happen well i'll tell you man i i think that you do both i think you could just well well tomorrow is the first time vincent man it's gonna see me on tv i was told that directly to my face i go by a tuxedo they say you need to succeed allowed i don't trust like a jackass tomorrow rich advantage to see on tv for the first time i went down a macy's me in five high school kids getting ready for prom bind tito's i feel good jobs real donor only thing the only thing that did shane i feel good i feel great don't you let it happen a letter the only thing that's changed is what you wear yeah i agree with you where the hell out the lido tomorrow but you still need to be the guy with the gun obviously underneath him i don't i don't want you to channel all that tuxedo it is perfume on a pig what what's it gonna be congratulations by the way thank you pat i wanna let you know dave and i say this from the bottom of my heart when i was on serious i got a chance to listen to other syria shows and try to learn as much as i could what you guys have done you're busted open not only for ten years is obviously incredible but every single day you show up and show out that's incredible feat and you should be very proud of yourselves pat love you man thank you forever you notice you notice dave when everybody's congratulating over at commanded him he kept some all yeah oh they don't need to be wealthy people were being told how good he is well you understood because we are not cutting people off when they're telling you how good you are i'm sorry i get what you're still you're ready yeah well macos i'm not sure i

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88. Daniel Oberhaus  Extraterrestrial Languages

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88. Daniel Oberhaus Extraterrestrial Languages

"Action Company that's owned and run by my cousin Brett so thank you Brad for hosting us here today my guest this week is Daniel Overdose his book is extra welcome to the Science Alon podcast I'm your host Michael Shurmur if you're watching this is their new studio here in Santa Barbara Make made craft is a pre congratulations on the new book it's called extraterrestrial languages with this curious abstract re- reason abstractly and even morality which we get into at the end of our conversation so with that I appreciate your support and then finally disorder thanks you might WanNa included a message topic wise right so just to kind of break it down we have said he daniel Ovejas extraterrestrial languages thanks for tuning in This is your host Michael to promote science and reason and critical thinking so if you support that please offer your support add skeptic dot com slash donate or through Patriot with that I give you everything from how you'd actually encode language in terms of radio waves or lasers to the logical problems involved with constructing a message to start there it's it's about the challenges of communicating with extraterrestrials probably speaking so deals with physics we have here and presumably the same laws of biology and evolutionary biology and so on so we get into all that all the way up to at the end who speaks for earth and I even if we never make contact with extraterrestrials which admittedly the chances are very low but that doesn't matter because really it's a way of getting us to think about so that was actually kind of where it all started with Frank Drake back in sixties that was quickly parlayed into communication with extraterrestrial intelligence cover and no subtitle and I'm always curious about how people pick books and covers and titles and subtitles and so on I think one or the other our species as a whole our planet as a whole who speaks for our species and what it means to be human what it means to be intelligent but it means to be able Israel intelligence so maybe just quickly walk through those three different categories of how scientists think about this this problem shirt so said he is signal and send it out to space and this gets into the nature of evolution the laws of physics at what are extraterrestrials going to be liked it's got to be constrained by the same laws most people are familiar with the search for extraterrestrial intelligence than we have said he with a C. communicating with extraterrestrial intelligence and then Medi which is messaging extra trust based on the search as its name suggests they're not really concerned with designing messages or really thinking too much about how to communicate should we receive a message the team communication and language turns out to be a super huge subject and and the technology of how you would encode that in some sense uh-huh and you're listening to science along a series of conversations with leading scientists scholars and thinkers about the most important issues of our time for the signs on podcast as usual it's part of the skeptics society in our five a one C three nonprofit organization whose mission it is title of the subtitle should tell you what the book is about you Kinda done it in one in two words extraterrestrial languages well we don't know of any extraterrestrial so what in the world is this book about which is clearly focused on designing messages with the intention of sending them through interstellar space right so cents or Seti which is focused on bidirectional communications to not only how to search for extraterrestrials also how to pulse to think about these sorts of things and kind of just from this personal interest I started looking into the reply should we received a message or if we want to kind of preempt things how would we go about showing ourselves to the universe and then finally there's many reading seconds He did two books he did one with that Russian scientists they needed another one by himself I read communication with extraterrestrial intelligence and then later that was all hot I think there was even a film I think what's his name Scott Jersey Scott played lily like character How did you get interested in this topic you were rougher you've written for wired right so you you're into a lot of this stuff anyway yeah I mean I think it's hard not to Paul who was doing working at twentieth century on how to teach mathematics right yeah yeah yeah I have to agree I've been interested in this you know since college for a language of the angels and this was something preoccupied medieval loss I end members of the clergy for a long time which was trying to recreate language of Adam that was supposedly lost and so I think there's definitely a direct connection ear and to your point I think the intersection of absolutely and I think Interestingly Enough Umberto Eco at ninety s read a book on this very topic which was the the search difficult it would be to communicate with another species we can't even do it on earth even with other mammals even with other primates history how it actually got about communicating what that would look us this was actually an article for the Atlantic and it was about a Dutch mathematician named Hans Fred we're all very interested in dolphins as a potential analog for interstellar communication but lily was ultimately unsuccessful anti things and or even other humans that we don't if we don't speak their language it's not easy to do so I love the discussion you have with John C Lilly I remember when when the Dolphins LSD okay there's not real science going on here there's something else going on what's the problem to be solved or extraterrestrial languages that is interested in the idea of extraterrestrial life I've yet to meet somebody has an at some point another looked up at the stars and wondered what else could possibly be out there so I think it's a really natural really considered to be a promising analog for communicating with extraterrestrial intelligence I personally think that's kind of a flawed way of going about it based on a work biological prerequisites aren't even present in not human primates for language so et saying that we're dealing with something completely different so Sagan Lily Drake God and an extraterrestrial intelligence so sufficiently advanced that it would be indistinguishable from omniscience omnipresence? You know we're really talking about the same thing is a burning and Christopher about seven years and then I was born in atheist after that and then I'm sort of a born again agnostic now I'm I'm not sure what I label us but but there but there is that there is intelligent life in the universe yeah nineteen sixty six I read that in the early seventies or so but but and this was in my religious days I found one he did with who is the Russian scientist he wrote a with I s Sugalski yeah that's right yeah yeah that guy and then ah sense that there's an impulse that there's somebody else out there something out there and really what the difference between a an all powerful all knowing with a citation because it's in the water I mean and whatever aliens are going to be like it's going to be way harder even than that and I mean that there are a variety of animal species on earth that seemed to have pretty sophisticated communication mechanisms which suggests that there should possibly be some way to talk to them I think in this nation for a very long time yeah and let's kind of a deconstruct the problem to be solved here that is to say how in other animal species so human language is something qualitatively different from how animals are communicating and that the biological mechanisms aren't even found in interest in extraterrestrial lives and this deeply human religious impulse the I mean it probably most obvious in UFO colts and things of that nature being so what you're after here is in a way religious people would be interested in how would I communicate with God it gets kind of asking the same question basically made a very strong and compelling argument in my opinion that the biological prerequisites of human language aren't actually president in not just complexity but something deeper like conveying a thought as opposed to communicating something simple like direction -ality yeah animals as a extra terrestrial analogue they weren't successful and I don't think that's all that surprising given what we know about human language today is he however with Chomsky's work in linguistics starting in the sixties getting more developed over the more recent decades key the once upon a time people looked at intelligent animals as a promising analog for extraterrestrial intelligence and communicating with them simply because we know it was really doing his work really up until I would say that made eighties early nineties intelligent animal life on earth around in our closest relatives like non human primates specifically so I think that these early attempts to communicate with what is a language how's that different from communication like bs f communication or whatever in terms of solving this problem how do we communicate with an extraterrestrial you were starting to talk about Chomsky and physical systems The way our vocal cords arranging things of that nature so I think it really great example of that is and the way we are expressing than right now in a linear fashion is more or less just artifact of our other he has a a sentence that is birds that fly instinctively swim in instinctively birds that fly swim and so yeah in animal community who had dolphins in a pan and they were communicating with them through these recording devices I forget the name of the day of the Dolphin it might have been called but you know how difficult it would be to communicate Asian researchers argue that the linearity of language is actually you know what makes it languages such and so lots of primates demonstrated the ability to manipulate symbols to this end and which he showed in that is that language as humans late modifying and so but if you look at the higher order language the hierarchical structure of language you'll see that instinctively even though the the interesting thing I think about the history of I guess just thought about how about communicating with an extraterrestrial intelligence after about the first half from the early sixties when the clever Hans effect I remember seeing I think what's her name Penny Patterson that Coco could the guerrillas Whatever you call her train in getting into the theory of languages yes so the fundamental problem here and I think this is something that goes back to the early days the city is that based on what we know now about human language not all that surprising here I think say Sagen begged out on that after he found out lily was giving what where exactly what you know and you know if you start off thinking I'm observing a you know an intelligent communicating language using primate you might find that I think Chomsky obviously arguing that language is not primarily a means of communication is actually a way of expressing or is closer to fly in the first sentence structurally it's actually closer to fly in the second sentence so that you're not seeing any sort of animals Hausky is done on human language which he claims is qualitatively different than animal communication systems that he actually argues that the gene or is it something just like a higher order operan conditioning and I tend to side on the following the side of the skeptic's I I think there's a lot of but to somebody who doesn't know what they're supposed to see or hear it's not obvious I think whenever examples was the first time cocoa might have been one of the other primates which so dolphins have the ability to refer to objects that aren't immediate environment again understand about dolphin communication so it's unclear whether chance in that matter several animal species have demonstrated some level of against rather different aspects that of land like it is somewhat surprising able to manipulate and form what appear to be new sentences and you know ask for things but thought so what is happening is when we were speaking right now we are externalizing our thoughts but really language function of the brain that has meant to order our thoughts internally your experiment or whatever and I think it was at Ted where she shown this video going here you can clearly see this language thing and and everybody's looking going he's dumb as a post but he can communicate quite clearly when he's hungry when he wants to go for his walk and when he wants his ball and so on but that's not language yeah absolutely and so I think would be the case presumably if we encountered an extraterrestrial intelligence and by encounter I mean actually had some linguistic connection to them sure that's not just chance and or something like a higher order operan conditioning I am totally in agreement with you there and when you look at these animals Spearman's actually saw a duck they signed water bird this is always example that's used like oh look it's created a new word Armel it could just be a lot of comments or planets or debris or it could be something like a dyson sphere solar panels or something like that the latter would communicate to us is that a recognizable to author that are thinking would be recognizable to them and I think it's actually a pretty strong argument that that lied they must have something like symbolic language like ours I think the answer to that question is yes and interestingly enough music is actually a higher goal cursive system and this has not been demonstrated in any animal species and so from that he argues that way human brain is working is actually quite good different and earlier example birds that flies swim in stictly birds that fly swim it's unclear in that sentence what instincts as cognitive modules that Chauncey is talking about what we better hope that extraterrestrials have a functionally similar mechanism and can think it just say finding a dyson sphere like tabby star I don't know if you follow that story you know there's The sun is being blotted out by way more percent than elegance and so they actually were both quite interested in extraterrestrial communication and and the reason for that was because they saw both pursuits as trying to we would presume that some some intelligence able to build say solar panels and a dyson sphere would have to be cognitively superior to us would that then it is yeah yeah we've published a couple articles in skeptic on animal language slash communication in a debate format that is are they really communicate you look at the mechanisms of intelligence as objectively as possible that is without I guess the human factor playing into it and solution to these problems that you face it it allows you to not only combine ideas to transmit them very efficiently across multiple generations the ideal solutions to certain problems the ones we'd hit specifically basic arithmetic seem very likely to it'd be a signal that there's an intelligence there it's not natural but that's not communicating with them that's just a signal that we've picked up what we is there that we can then begin begin to tag and then and then translate somehow yeah I mean I I think that is verbs and other words and adjectives and so on are going to be bound by the same principles of physics that that that we experience there should be some similarities? What we're really getting into that is the question of well what is language and so you know and that's fundamental to totally accurate and the the question then becomes well how much of what we treat as knowledge and information they taught over the time span of a decade and so that's plenty of time I think personally for conditioning to take effect or as you mentioned Kristie it's which is limited resources limited time and so based on this he's saying that the solutions that humans vowed to this one of them being symbolic language actually very ideal the idea of communicating with extraterrestrial intelligence because of language really is something that is based on the biological structure of the human brain that cognitive niche that we evolved in a physical environment it's three dimensions there's certain principles of physics that are going to be true on other planets also found by other intelligent species right and so if they're going to try to send a signal to us they're going to try to send us a pattern that would not happen naturally they rotating a disc arithmetic is something that would be recognizable aliens I think that is something of an open question but again if we're looking at Ah The astronomer she's looking for these prime numbers that cannot be naturally formed so that was kind of a simple version of that say a neutron star from a message you would look for things like these patterns but also astrophysical phenomena tend to be spread across a very broad with of frequencies whereas you know at least said he is looking very narrow bandwidth so it's concentrated energy very narrow frequency range so there's also ways to communicate it's they'll be slightly different levels of gravity or or whatever but but they're still going to be an up and down in a forward and back and and time will progress from past to present so on so there Lena an intelligent communicating organism you will get something like that inasmuch as convergent evolution you're likely to have you need is are they really saying they're gas or are we interpreting nece right yeah yeah I have a chocolate lab named hitch named after Christopher Hitchens and yeah absolutely I mean there's not that kind of gets also more into how you on the fiscal side of things actually transmitted message so we're trying to distinguish is a product of our own mind versus something that would be I guess objectively recognized as such so a lot of attempts at designing a new seller messages start with basic math on the edition of intelligence being a specific response to a given problem so intelligence has domains yet tubing 'cause meetings called Eh kind of the first few people to propose wise would be the case where John McCarthy and Martin inskeep who were pioneers of artificial games will be out played by a non zero games that is to say cooperation out out competes but where things start to get interesting then is it Chauncey is right and that we are brain is actually more or less likely to use the term hardwired but if the I've I've kind of followed the debate on inevitably theory between contingency things are very very random and as gould famously said if you rewound the tape Ester so there seems to be some almost evolutionary leap there which isn't actually out of the question is like it's not a deterministic marched from Lee rare I mean another debate I got into with Robert Wright you know he'd wrote that Book Non Zero where he makes the case it's kind of a convergent evolution although in his case it's the zero sum and so from this you saying well you know I think there's a very strong argument to be made that alliens would hit on similar solutions because we're facing the same mental problems and that was based on their awfully he argued that we're probably alone in the universe even though I thought his convergence argument made the case that we would not be alone in the universe I don't know if hog modules exist based on our actual biology you would expect to see similar things start cropping up in other intelligent species ends argument is that we don't even in our closest and gene neutron stars or black holes or something like that so sagging famously had Elliott Arrow us prime numbers as she the brain and like this tendency towards larger more complex brains that's actually one of the things that me dolphins seem such a promising candidates for interspecies communication on the idea that one it's very easy to communicate you can use extensive representations one pulse represents the number one also presumably yeah no I think that might be going too far but it's an interesting thought experiment and we don't know of course if neanderthals had the same kind of Chomsky like language that we use that this is an intelligent signal just based on how you actually towed message into giving medium yet on that subject in years I if you're on land you need limbs and you're gonNA have all the sensory apparatus on one end and the waste disposal project on the other kaminskys argument was that even if we're saying dealing with like an occupied something that looks very different from humans they're going to be faced with the same fundamental environmental constraints You know competitiveness in the long run therefore you're going to end up with a kind of intelligence that we have if it wasn't us been the enter tolls if it wasn't the NFL's it had been homo erectus hi it's own intelligence yeah I follow that argument to pinker makes a great counter to that in enlightenment now the idea that not that technological process do species end up inevitably wiping themselves out and getting through that point right now we're facing these problems of like nuclear apocalypse exists with our ability to cooperate there's there's no reason that impulse might be much weaker in another intelligence DC's in fact that's what gets them through these problems we're facing is a species of highly intelligent communicating beans who are not like that they're called women like I I'm actually hyphen played it again there'd be nothing like us and then people like doctors and dentists said well what do you mean by us I mean if you just obviously if you mean by the primate no but if environmental collapse this all from us being very intelligent berry technologically motivated species are we going to be able to move beyond that and that is that booker helmets you follow that debate I'm slightly I think the issue of convergence is particularly interesting when we're talking about intelligence because when you look at things like the encephalopathy on earth right now in other words it's sort of a guy's way of thinking about what the future of intelligence or or aliens are going to be like you know maybe they're not going to be like men yeah and you discuss I mean the aliens we may encounter may not be biological they may be computers yeah in fact I think the odds are likely that they will be aliens would be evil but that we would end up exterminating ourselves because we're bellicose were colonizing were were were violent and so on he says there is I'm not super familiar with fingers argument there I think just because we develop this way and have this very deeply competitive impulse that and so you might end up with something like a bipedal dinosaur whatever and trying to remember the name that paleontologists who wrote the book Amoeba is too so there is space there for these sorts of leaps in intelligence they're pretty rare as far as we know it may be unbelievable you'll look for those fossils had they had that bump in the skull or something that implies that you know their skull was rotated in such a way and had this structures forget what the argument was but that therefore they might have had the kind of language we have one I mean I think this is one of the great challenges to because cooperation obviously does the earlier managed to survive all these issues we're dealing with now and given that were already working artificial intelligence is a pretty good we might be talking with a computer arrest royal languages so this is about making contact with extraterrestrials either we get their signal we send a signal how are we going to communicate with them what is says but perhaps if Agi is created is not it's going to embody the best human principles without this downside so right what they call the great filter so maybe there is some sort of limited and maybe intelligent life does crop up by frequently but keeps hating this barrier done in and rival human general intelligence is interesting from the fact that we tend to think of it like well it's a human creation so it must embody both the best and the worst of Human Impulse uh-huh style logical and the reason for that just being a statistical analysis looking Adler Earth is very young relatives age of the universe so if life has cropped up for evolutionary advantage as far as we can save but on the same time there's this debate Seti about at the so-called great siltser which is you know if you get too far along it wasn't homo erectus it's all and and you know but but what do you mean by us well he means an Internet using technological society with the kind of language we anyway yeah I think kind of on that point like this today we're having about artificial intelligence whether or not it will ever be able to yeah yeah it's similar to the we might be leaving in the Matrix argument that you know given the rate of progress and so on the chances that a far future post biological in the book you mentioned earlier by State in Chicago ski is actually kind of the first to bring that up saying if we do encounter intelligent life is probably gonna be a life Solutions Simon Conway Morris Simon Conway so he pushed back against Gould's contingency intelligence will have something like a virtual reality indistinguishable from you and I sitting here right now therefore I was Bostrom I think said we have a greater than fifty percent chance of that we're living in the matrix yeah I mean I I know you want musk is a big fan of that argument I kind of resist it just because I think that at least and I think that's fascinating because they take these very conventional human means of communication such Morse Code and just assume that that would breath matic's as the basis of communicating with intelligent species that are unlike us so kind of after these weird initial ideas in France in the mid we're living in the matrix but also that is like a fifty percent chance that doomsday will happen within eight hundred sixty seven years you know because he the analogy twentieth century the Kinda got kicked back up again it was more focused on the technical side of things such as how would we actually go about communicating with someone who lived on is you know it's worth considering William poundstone on the podcast his book is called the Doomsday formula and it's the same kind of argument he has a chapter on the sure so you know the idea of a game and extraterrestrial intelligence unsurprisingly goes back quite a ways in the nineteenth century so I don't know if we're thinking about yeah so you have a nice history here of of how scientists thought about if we're going to send a signal did you have some of these diagrams that they walk us through a little bit about what the history of the science of this has been like what do we put on the plate what do we put in the radio signal we send using basically a visual representation of Fagor Theorem we'd grow trees form a triangle with the squares on each side we could communicate ars for instance they were really interested in using mirrors or the relatively new invention of electrical lights kind of sending Morse code messages I mean yeah and I think there's a there's a counterargument I forget who wasted which is saying that actually like the odds are that were somewhere directly in the middle just if you're looking at like statistical things I think really got interesting around the turn of the twentieth century for reasons totally unrelated to communicating with extraterrestrials which was and how long did it take to get from here to here in terms of population so how how much longer will it take to get another seven billion people well eight hundred sixty seven a number of prominent mathematicians were thinking about Carl Friedrich Gauss for instance was very interested in his problem he suggested that is controlling the simulation what we can only do what we do so I I dunno issues that your line thinking I suppose rested we dig trenches in the Sahara and light them on fire you film the whale like him fired send messages wasn't GonNa Happen But there notable for picking or send a PLA- a little plate on spacecraft you know what would you put on it such that somebody that's who knows who would find it can read it so you have like you know in your appendix it's like probability of where we are in terms of the evolution of humans like chancellor pretty good you're somewhere in that middle fifty percent as opposed to either of the end quadrants actually without actually knowing what the proposition is about it doesn't really matter subject which I think is really important for communicating extraterrestrials ah so the world could come to an end here at fifty percent it's these Beijing analysis where you have nothing to plug in there's no formula to plug is not even as good as the drake equation anyway didn't end up holding out in terms of the way philosophy developed but they did lay the foundation for frigging ball's first language representations they would say one radio pulse would equal one to two and then tiny it would be based on long short history of it if you sent that to some scientists in another country say and said just now be intelligible to an extraterrestrial which right I mean seems pretty far fetched but again they were very interesting that they were focusing on math and thinking about what kind of map to send extinct say it's light formalization because I kind of find the idea of something being formalized but he created this basic system where you start with extensive basically with his system you're able to prove all the propositions within the system itself so it's itself checking aliens they receive this would be able to basically run these formulas and logical relations between ninety Excise the slippery nature of human language and make it logically rigorous so that could determine the truth of a proposition without news is if we had the you know the history of humanity from from start to finish and the COPERNICAN principles that were not special so we're like right here in the top of the bell curve recently a Dutch mathematician named Alexander all Ingraham proposed a really a second generation of Foreign Language Colin Powell link something that's symbolic to reality in like how do you bridge that gap It may be an intractable problem but yeah that's kind of the and people like a freighter and Russell's started thinking about the logical foundation of mathematics and you know their ideas didn't a lot of issue light sewer presumed to live on the new or perhaps even Mars but you know these were interesting not because they were practical and other astronomers length between the pulses and from that he tried to build a system that could communicate everything from physical sciences facts better too human relations and he kind of has success there but there was a lot to be desired as a very complicated system you didn't really explain she called the Lingua cosmic or Linkohr's and this was based on the Lambda Calculus and constructive mathematics and he sent him out to a bunch of Nobel laureates the smartest people he knew and was basically like here's a message what does it mean yeah no one responded no one got it except for one are from zero to ten rather yes what you see there is it's written in binary and then the house specific symbols that relate the numbers they were understanding something incorrectly which I think is a is a marvellous approach I think however you still deal with this fundamental are we going to translate these ideas into some physical medium so that kind of bubbled in the background of steady for fifty years really until solely through a rigorous logical formal system not interested in not I want something that is more rooted in everyday life so he started with mathematics because they need a wage verified things that are in their message and so ticks this idea like well communicating You know with with you know building building blocks that make more complexity something like that yeah and so this was actually sent into space in nineteen edge in the sense that Bertrand Russell was trying to formalize language he had this idea that the world basically consists of all these independent objects in that I described so it's making an equivalent area and so but I think to your point it's not intuitive and it's not easy to understand and person kind of got his name's Barney Oliver auto burning Amazing amazing technologist he writes to Frank Drake and the message so I think when you think about the fact that some of the most brilliant people on Earth could understand drake's designedly simple it really work on information degree analysis of different signals so they looked at a back up a little bit when you look at human language in the district signals the came in as if it's a like it's a but codes are designed to con to not be able to be broken WH- like one of these diagrams that you have in the appendix here for those that are just listening to this it's a bunch of dots and patterns and things like this eighty nine two thousand and three and it's based on callsign which was funny about it is that the what's on the cover looks remarkably place but it's actually very simple it's just counting from zero to one species and when they breed and so on that kind of ends up in a FIBONACCI numbers just because of the way the seasons operate or something like that and the difference between the two speed impenetrable to me and said what is that I mean could they figure it out and they're you know Homo sapiens rate and I mean so like you take a look at the cover Asian of words Nina letters follow something zip slow which is that the first most common language word in a given language and most of them in fact we wanna make this as simple obvious possible the question is what is simple and obvious for us you know that's a very you know essentially yeah in the the difference between code and language I think is really integral list because we're not necessarily trying to speak in code returned to communicate you know Frank Drake funny enough he found this out the first time you tried to design a prototypical interstellar message that actually eventually became the that's the problem we're dealing with an perspective in contact they had people that are good at breaking codes working on the extraterrestrials cosmetologists Fred oil there's to be one of the most interesting characters in the history of science even though he's wrong about a lot of things he had a lot of interesting ideas in which earth did okay great way of determining whether something is language or not but it could determine whether something is a of intelligence occurs twice as often as the second most use word so on down the line so it has this nice distribution curve and so he Henin's some people who are working on animal communication researcher sees there's not guaranteed that something like financially numbers would be our artificial it could be something like that yeah doyle is actually interesting because they don't yeah becoming an spaceships they may not be sending objects they may descend the code that tells us how to build a computer that will then or the device that then builds the object that the book there if you had against what cover means what would you what would you think that yeah I don't know I mean I I I would think it's it's trying to convey something from simple to complex Elliot prescient insight into I think probably WanNa knows you know promising ways of designing Ah Yeah you had a discussion here about the Doyle was talking about receiving a signal that began with FIBBER NACI numbers Dr Basis for the CBA message that I sent into space but he he he designed a message was based on a bit nap so he's square like pictures on the cover one of his books makes the point that there is a natural sequence of meeting between two species like an like an interrelationship between don't expect elsewhere and actually really interesting recent research showing that four nucleotides are specific for is actually a really optimal yeah then you had in your discussion I'm Mickey of the example this proposal he cited a for andromeda television series written by the we also grow something based on that code I wonder if a human brain constructed by extraterrestrials within learn their language humans and if their ability to create organisms in labs progressing anywhere as fast as ours is it's not too far after that the passage would be to send the cat don't send the picture of the cat right or would it be something like send instructions for how to build a three d printer discussion on communicate extraterrestrial intelligence near trying to figure out how we coded image into three dimensions may get you know intelligent aliens they have something like grammar they'd have to have grammar that's the assumption right so that would be interesting yeah highlighted that because I was thinking of Paul Davies argument for a second Genesis on earth origins of you received a signal from space you basically apply algorithm it looks for these distributions that we see in language as this intelligence filter for unknown signals ackman nineties applied the same technique to dolphins to see what the distribution of vote dolphins were and it was surprisingly close that if you found some organisms that didn't have the four-base DNA they had some other replicating molecular sequence that would be an example of a second creation on earth very similar distribution pattern despite the error had bad we less butlers Asian range and humans do in their language as it turns out that might not be and so maybe looking for something like that but I am followed that research in a few years so you haven't seen that new study saying that particular arrangement we have is probably the most efficient solution for creating DNA they've managed created six new digitises so long but it's much harder to replicate any on how many extra once you add so there's so maybe earlier experiments failed because they weren't as effective yet a British astrobiologist named Charles Cockrel we need to think about DNA and you know These four nucleotides that code for everything life on earth is that something specific to our planet or is that the frank when he decoded it it was a picture of Martini glass all event it so yeah clearly he did not understand the meaning of Drake's message but he did understand how to decode it thank you guys are trying to coded radio waves no no let's just on the instructions to build this thing itself which I think given how artificial intelligence progress over the last fifty years extraterrestrial signal that contains instructions for building a computer that then relays instructions for creating a biological organism named drama so in other words the aliens and then here's the program for the Three D. Printer to build a cat and they get speaking of Toda's we were talking about earlier really good reason to think that might have a for nuclear type based DNA structure similar thrown at that's the case might not just send the code DNA it was like life in the universe might not be as you know as aliens lack of a better word might expect it should be because just the laws eligible if they understood evolution in other words the theory behind where we came from that that's a certain level of understanding that also applies to language I mean Chomsky had a great about how is an alien didn't alien had symbolic language or language in general six requires certain biological structures are rather make them more likely to emerge than others so from cells to perhaps even the structure of our brain so I think taking all these things that consideration didn't have this I guess underlying basis in the universal grammar we wouldn't be able to understand it we have to approach it across the design of interstellar messages which is looking for what we can assume with a high degree of certainty will be will share with an extra track Chomsky would say would I mean assuming their language is like a universal grammar algorithm you have built into the brain assuming six are the same throughout the universe which as far as we know they are then you can expect biology to evolve in certain ways and I think that listen I I really do think that we communicate with an extraterrestrial intelligence we can assume that they have a functionally equivalent cognitive mechanism Israel intelligence so Mickey argue same fundamental restraints in terms of time and space and limited resources but then also just if the laws owned hard to get out of those anthropomorphic centrism so we have yes so yeah and it would apply to any planet well this cockle says all planets have gravity and so on and so you're going to have certain characteristics that just restrained the size of organisms like Eddie and in fact John Lumbered Design a lot of the voyager golden record a icons was intimately involved with that Carl Sagan was invited but he didn't attend AAC contact with an extraterrestrial all this stuff gets us to think about problems to solve here for example if you're going to bury nuclear waste pretend thousand years or fifty go to address this problem among the people invited to this task force it say how are we gonNA label nuclear waste so that's understood ten thousand years in the future a lot of them were already involved his assist approaches physics in learning over the generations we wouldn't be able to understand enough to begin really yeah yeah so what symbols would you use to say don't open this yeah I mean I I think it's really interesting that when the do EEK Vena Task Force back in the Oh and that's GonNa apply everywhere those kinds of formulas right and I think you're hitting on one of the main themes that will provide the basis for communication doctors out another line about we know an intelligence next restaurant the time Linda designed a record and on the record are hundreds of images of earth and mathematical concepts there's sounds not but he's still gave his opinion and Sagan actually advocated using the school and crossbones but that might not be as Oh yeah another one of these problems that I thought was interesting I heard this one longtime ago as well that if well let me back up one of the interesting things about your book is that even if we never met the people look clearly Caucasian so if you're any new discoveries this you're you're very skewed view of what humanity is about a little bit about the golden record on the voyager missions and how that came about what's on it and and in how you know a microorganism in water that's not like us going through water they they're not gonNA have a fish like body they're going to have a different kind of body to get through at that set that level a good of a an option as we think because if we think ten thousand years down the line perhaps humans or post biological say you come across the sign with the skull and crossbones brought together dot them inspired outstay so it's worthwhile also we're thinking about you know if an extraterrestrial find this are they going to have a record player well Oh yeah I had him on the podcast he's a super interesting guy really really great guy and he's done a he had a book recently come out that's more or less on the they want you to Create yet I mean I think that was a brilliant insight decide came from inside the first joint. Uso Yet did you know atomic annhilation of the record might see these very small digits in deals extract information that it's coated so when it came time to send voyager wine to out in the space and eventually into interstellar space Sagan and a small group of people including his wife Tom but you know I think one of the more interesting things is that they use the energy transition of atomic hydrogen applying very rigorous logic to the design but is limited by the time yeah but still but still an improvement over the pioneer the pioneer readings in dozens of languages and it was really meant to be a more comprehensive view of life on Earth knowledge still very limited for several probes they had a smaller plaque depicted to naked humans kind of design showing the trajectory of the locked into the seventies that is yeah so I mean the Voyager Golden Records definitely grotto's earlier kind of project on the the pioneer elemental universe so it might be something that is more recognizable sued than extraterrestrial intelligence than really anything else so they were definitely they they are able to scan thousands of targets across billions wavelengths we still haven't found anything whereas sending a message especially a robust one reasons one because extraterrestrials probably never gonNA discovery which say all designers were well aware that the odds of someone finding basically nil but the symbols can have a variety of meetings. I think you said that was a much more Western and eastern cultures don't use skull-and-crossbone two thousand years and somebody finds it in that timeframe they're not going to be like a speaking English and it won't even be like Shakespearean English it's going to be something just completely we can't even think of they will be received right yeah when was the last one two thousand three no there's actually one last year at all genders and so on and you can't show man and woman because there's not just to one I think to your point I guess the the record may not actually be such a bad idea because it demonstrates our ability to take sound in encoded in like the variations in the record itself and so in extraterrestrial you're up right yeah and there's been scientists and others objecting to messaging the cosmos there was some controversy over having the male and female nude right now if you did it probably be controversial because you know where's the LGBTQ variety of because the aliens might be evil they might be coming here to you know to to consume our resources or whatever again I think that's sort of a guy way of thinking about so you don't think we should be doing that for for economic reasons yeah I think like when you look at said he'd picture cat he was like no no no let's send the cat itself and it's just like way talking about is that well we basically computer that can run all code in shoal his what about the mindset of the people who advance it and so if you're worried that we're going to reveal our place in the universe we you're gonNA have to cut some stuff out and so what do you decide you include with you excited not include and that is why I personally think that thinking about this problem even if we're not going to send it that left because they ran a resource they should be able to solve those kinds of problems locally that argument right we don't even have record players anymore I was gonna say I don't even have one in my house I answered you but you know but you know that might be more titular than it is a warning signal we can look at all these flashy ancestors might not turn out so well struggles of designing these messages how do you create a message that's inclusive it's like how how do you actually create a message that embodies what life is like on earth messages into space which I don't think we should it's a waste of resources right now but we should still think about how we design them because it forces us to address these forces us to think about what's important awesome information takes a ton of energy and you're only able to really target a single star at a time right and if we don't know where we're shooting yes we are we just a resource consuming thing that needs to be exterminated that has more energy yeah I think it's so hard to conceive of what invaded by some malevolent enter extraterrestrial intelligence I think that says a lot about your view intelligence in general and that it must be in a certain way so they're gonNa have to know the code that probably really anything off of it other than knowing that we were able to build this level of technology in nineteen seventy seven on spacecraft flew through space and that kind of got raked through the coals for one thing there was like three people working on designing it wasn't really representative humanity tips and we're we're still at the vacuum tube stage so they helped us we back engineered in the nineteen fifties from the nineteen forty seven Roswell crash the new computer technology is if the logical beyond around they probably know where we're at and you know so I think there's a good reason not to transmit I just don't think that's them extra-terrestrial it'd be like simply because they're not going to be just slightly ahead of us you know like with the Roswell story you know the the they have computer two thousand and a million years ahead of us and so if you took Moore's law and you take all those Dublin's and you if you take someone like Ray Kurzweil singularity arguments were at this species that gets that far that they're able to traverse the best of interstellar space in and managed to land here they're probably not the kind of species that's for what it's worth most messages that are that have been sentenced as complete publicity stunts the scientific wants there's probably not chances for that a Douglas runs the institute and he did a couple on there called the sonar messages and got a bunch of musicians from the sonar festival really be I think it's also kind of argument in that we are doing his poor job of keeping quiet and so they have any level wait musk voices it it kind of represents almost a a fatalism in the sense that if there was some like fatalism in like the Communists sense there was millions are just like five years ahead of us you know it's it's not going to be like that you know you know just in terms of the evolutionary timescale they'd be ten thousand the argument would be like the one about Agi they'll be so far advanced than us they won't even know that they're exterminating us like us with ant hills or something like that yeah that's I think that's something we're struggling with your earth and in terms of the ethics of developing ai and will be something that we lose control of what will think about us and as kind of the the key to the whole thing in terms of figuring out numbers in time which I think is very interesting approach in hydrogens the most abundant he makes those kinds of arguments across all technologies and then you plug it into a far future or extraterrestrial that's one hundred thousand years ahead of it us in from starting with say basic technology we have say one thousand nine hundred I can't even imagine what they're going to be able to do is really enjoyed it super thought provoking thanks for coming on thank you so much valuable beyond radio we should start looking at optical systems and then beyond that who knows what's down the line and I think that's probably so I I'm GonNa do probably a poor job at explaining this but with radio is a great question I personally think that the universe is likely a washing communication and we just haven't developed the technology to kind of ease drop the optical search also consider optical communication namely lasers that's a little bit hard for because you'd be looking for ultrafast flashes it's some of that's limited by the electromagnetic spectrum it's going to be somewhere on their absolutely yeah and that's why I think that we really need to expand at least what I think why we hear anyone you know we're using a telegraph everyone else is talking on the phone right so but relate quantum systems we haven't even really begun obstacle searches in terms of lasers which can have a more information into a given amount of energy so in terms of the amount of energy you need to pack into frequency to broadcast on it you can condense that energy into a single like bandwidth of light and so because you can it and it'll basically a flash on their spectrum against the backdrop of sunlight and so that I think is a is all over so you have to differentiate this laser light because you can do it in a very narrow frequency of light you can talk a ton of energy into that laser and I think once we developed what technology maybe than will likely find that there there are people talking so when you think about it said he is history how far we just come at five hundred years they wouldn't have to be that far at a bus to perhaps be significantly more advanced so even if we're talking terms of thousand years that can do of laser lights you'd have to have basically planetary wide survey going all the time to look for these you know milliseconds time that a pulses coming in but uh you know in terms of if we want to send a lot of information very far away lasers probably the best way to do it now why why is it I don't know the physics of that why why why are lasers better than radio that like if you're in alien looking at Earth we have a very brain object behind us that smeared across the electromagnetic spectrum so suddenly the huge benefit of using lasers but then as opposed to radio your radio you're competing with a very very noisy universe you're also using radio which is a hundred year old technology is relatively new but why on earth like what an inefficient way to talk and we're just beginning to understand how you know you just happen to broadcast just the right frequency that can make it through to them so there's a lot stacked against it I think that's all it almost unrecognizable test yeah so given that what is your opinion which your answer to the Fermi paradox whereas everybody that is gene with things such as the the window that say on Earth we can only hear very narrow spectrum of the radio manner is oh that's the solution to fair me's paradox or whatever it is it'll be so obvious to them that we can't even think of it now there may not be as many that got all the way to the point of communicating with technologies that we could detect and others you could be all the way up of years is very little progress in their toolkits for example and they don't show the same kind of cave painting type symbolic art they might have had some simpler anyway will like a solar sail basically an interesting kind of intersection with extraterrestrial intelligence is is that doing that straight radio beams for being chronically frozen in coming back say a thousand years from now is just just to see what the solutions were like Oh my God so that's what we were doing wrong that's what Dr May actually be broadcasting to other planets it's actually a pretty good he can mechanism as well so kind of get two for one there but again who's going to put his own money up or something like that the rushing I miller I mean he's doing the what's his project called breakthrough yeah I mean I in in you know there's been so much thought poured into this problem that perhaps you've already hit on the solution but policy or economics trump just because of the nature of our atmosphere and who knows what the nature of extraterrestrial atmospheres you're kind of like hoping that bad either very similar atmosphere to us or that and sent us a message from a star fifty light years away you're probably GONNA be dead by the time you can do it back and forth message like most people on Earth today would be but we're not even talking Tori system yet actually so that is breakthrough star shot in the way they want to do that is using like megawatt scale lasers to propel voyager we're going to the Proxima Centauri system which is the closest one which is not going to but if it did even hauling asset whatever thirty forty thousand miles an hour would take like seventy thousand years to get so for what it's worth a good reason to build a received around noon because you don't have to deal with these atmospheric exit look at a far far broader spectrum of radio so I think that's one of the things that I think about it in these terms really just is what still continues to inspire awe in this breakthrough yeah yeah but that's two of them ready then he has the other one where he's going to send a postage-size spaceship too I mean literally a tiny little thing to proximus broke La Radio Show John and Jillian afternoon talk radio so we were talking about this and they had somebody from event on the back side of the Moon Yep so you don't have to deal with interference from terrestrial communications also not limited to the you know ten gigs in tools and maybe some art but that's it I mean the point I made to Robert Wright in his non zero argument is neanderthals had Europe to themselves for hundreds of thousands but like also you know there's there's a good reason to do it I think so I don't know when that when that story about tabby star a good chance that this is extraterrestrial technology a dyson sphere kind of thing or or a giant solar panels or something like that so jillions firsthand well what are they but there and as he jokes that's a long time to sit there with your tray table down in your CPAC I mean it's just big an empty yeah you've like our ability to communicate in spaces it's been one hundred years out of like four thousand years of just having written language right so geology or Cosmo theology or something like that they did a survey of asking religious people how would your religious beliefs change if we discovered extraterrestrial intelligence ears are hundred years at this point like if we receive a message from extraterrestrial intelligence ought to be thousands when you think about the course of human history and just how bree ends and area fifty one and all that stuff so and this Guy George was he sort of playing up that you know well you know my inside sources tell me there's a good good hurts whatever it is a spectrum are on earth so maybe everyone is talking can't hear it because break the atmosphere is blocking yeah one of the best arguments I've heard I think of in caught up so if you were to approach someone and say let's build a dish on the backside of the noon it could tell was talking aliens must be working on lap no way while you need a billionaire to neanderthal level and no one would know you're there and that is an amazing level of development do you have you know sixteen hundred CC brain with hands I so yeah the what's the there's a group up in Berkeley that does what is it the Astros everything is yeah I think it's one of the things that make study so hard to justify people are like well you know why would I why on Earth Jack is like sunny has done a pretty good job of scanning the closest stars to Earth which we're talking tens of lightyears November fact that an extraterrestrial intelligence we get all the way to their on some other planet and we would never know that they're there and that's you know so I I think there's probably a lot out there we just and the other argument St has the ability to receive it you know that's pretty significant intelligence there and there's no reason to think that they would share it or that you know lose their religion I think it would just expand our thinking but in a pretty big way for sure we're not alone that's pretty big or second said even if we are alone that's also you know they had what's his name George Noory on the you know the late night coast am coast to coast so they're totally into all that conspiracies alien the grandkids grandkids grandkids aren't even GonNa Packs these aliens why would we want to spend money on this and I think that's a valid criticism the vast and the distances are so far between Seth Shostak at said he makes his analogy you know that if I think we're still trying to figure that out and you know to this point of why it worthwhile to invest in these things as a society is it wasn't as bad as they thought like most people go it's okay I mean my God is big enough to have created other aliens did Jesus go to every planet and we used for searching intelligence is called fast and so it's worthwhile to think about if we did receive a message and only one time I'm eric rush or anyone else that you know that is going to be a very biased message is going to you know it's GonNa show Oh pretty big and important to know the last chapter your book who speaks for

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Friday 5 July

"You're listening to the globalist says focused on the fifth of july two thousand in nineteen on monocle twenty four the globalist in association with cbs hello broadcasting live from the dory house in london this is the latest i'm georgina godwin coming up australian student alex vicki is released by north korea under what happened what happened in pyongyang remains a mystery at least for now what's the connection to talks with the united states will seek to britain's former ambassador also the head of the land maybe on her way to becoming the european commission's next president but why is nominations so unpopular homes in germany and stuff stripes and tonics america's celebrate independence day trump style as united states me my adopted country i came from the middle east i've always felt welcomed unpatriotic but more so with president trump plus could be age of streaming cd of disney emmys much into one and what me worry will look back at my magazine sixty seven years of which i'm such a whole lot and the business due to a head on the globalist live from london and australian students who went missing in pyongyang is safe after he was released by north korean officials unexpectedly has been studying for a master's degree in career literature kennel some university and build a puppet of presence is one of the few foreigners living in pyongyang able to walk around the city unaccompanied and access social media why he was arrested and then released however remains a mystery john everard with britain's ambassador to north korea and joins me studio now john thanks for coming in cities mysterious arrest canaan interesting time for relations between north korea and and the u s what sealed meeting of this it's one of those things were probably never going to find out who wasn't linked to z great came trump known some it i'm shaking the factors remarks over wasn't it's a it's important to understand north korea isn't anything like as well coordinated this people imagine and it's entirely possible a the city without being arrested by people who had nothing to do with the summit and have their own quite different reasons but bringing him in a we i say other north winds ten knots released statements on these things a sickly himself has said that he is not uncommon further on the reasons for his arrest so what public be kept in the dark so stadium is a close ally of the united states do you think it's possible that think he was targeted because he's australian it's possible it's possible to the targeted because of the security associates took disliked him some reason he used to blow up quite extensively about locking pyongyang some his blog see who's quite capitol some of them so just a little bit closer the win a maybe also a he offended somebody in pyongyang a you know coming out of the meeting and not buying putting in the right way account and you're in trouble in north korea or maybe nothing to do accept a told remember the country but they're multiple a lousy japanese chef a who's to cook a kim tamils so she was also part of disappeared a oh maybe this is part of a general sweep the scooter says just cracking down on this phone is we don't know or just about meal in that case fall justified meals but about somebody who felt sick and why was sticky that allowed to living john young such freedom i mean it does seem extraordinary that he could wonder about unaccompanied any had access to social media hate is blocking at school no no he was a student at kennesaw university the author hunters is the former students that but there are probably a couple of dozen a mostly a from the form form a socialist countries can be quite a lot of vietnamese on chinese study that a few is typically studying a career literature it's a good while the victorian a costa they run that but they saw the grounding in in the the major to kareem classics and if you're a student accused of those dino you you have the right to wander around pyongyang a pretty freely a he's not overly students that have access social media but he is by or which did not walls up by fall the most prominent his blog was widely read unwind disseminated but again why the permission to to access social media i mean i understand that it's extremely difficult from the country say even logistically that must must have been a slight problem no students accused one university being foreigners connect on social media is not sleeping well in this sweet post reason to set up an embassy away back in the seventies jockey tried to recover debts from north korea which they're still trying to do a has been jumped on by every west empower before everybody started opening emphasis at the turn of the century to be that protecting power in pyongyang because it was the only western empathy that so every time now a west did not get into trouble a from a non represented country which is most countries the sweetest foreign ministry has the defense coming in relative think these these kind of held out yet again i'm sweden all credit to it only to sweeten the embassy is not a big place up dropped everything on held out to the extent of flying in a special representative can cost at a loss choose day which appears to be the media trigger for the release interestingly contested not the kind of person you flown out normally no real connects with north korea noted if he's actually a democrat member offi swedish parliament it looks like the street to find espera upstairs any stirrups into quickly this july holiday i'm just sitting there they dropped him now you saying the embassies that they owned a great deal of west and emc's that but of course you yourself represented britain in the country just tell me a little bit about that sets up and does he does he embassy does still exist yes in fact it is grown slightly since i since i left a we set up a mission in two thousand and two when it looked as if there's going to be major change in north korea alongside a few other western countries the gems also set up the remains the polls have been that they somebody stayed on a firm after the collapse of social solidarity another post offices so in the end i think it was six e on this is a in pyongyang since then the french cone quite bring themselves to recognize most critically particularly so have a kind of cultural office which is mountain emphases just a a a man in office that i made huggins often don't depending on the current budget crisis of funding office sometimes and then obviously living within the diplomatic community is a little bit different from living with he wouldn't be population but i wonder what it is like for a lesson in that environment how long do you have a it's of course very very different a you are living in a quite a school west village at any one these days are properly above a hundred westerners in pyongyang number tasting in and out a so everybody knows everybody's business a on everybody a is it it'll do quite intense snippets incest you're having social relationship with north koreans takes quite a lot of work on quite a lot of cat it's very easy to draw people in it's a out of course you do need to speak caribbean so a lot of westerners simply don't do it and say life for for this australian would have been i mean quite the quite intensely incest yes and no i mean this is north korea things never quite work out as planned it's a little bit somebody a they typically he kept on the coastal division when he first went to consume dustin anti cultural shed a a room that with with other foreign as but after a while it does tend to just get bored no they they filed that that shit is saying they've been out on surveillance and if they're not buying ice cream this quite like this one north christmas party wants to walk back listening in yeah although he's not as he say not really giving any comments it seems like he's anxious to preserve relations in probably together back well he has invested a great part of his life in north korea totally understandable but he also deserves some credit relations with north korea props at some point mend fences pops at some point go back a he hasn't devotion slams john just before we go so where are relations between the us and north korea us the chumps publicity stunt end just teach anti well that frankly pretty much where they were on a nice warm feeling good good atmospherics from the publicity stunt but a when the two sets of officials meets remember that was the one thing that came out of this rather curious encounter a the gulf between the two countries is going to be as wide as it ever was essentially nazi mood since donald trump moved up walked out of that meeting in illinois earlier this year on at the atmosphere has been solid in the meantime by the north koreans putting out a statement saying that the united states were made whole stall off topping demand to the north korea cease importing oil so installed john thank you very much indeed that john everard here's what else they keeping an eye on today ministry and civilian leaders in sudden have agreed to a polish sharing deal until fresh elections can be held the middle channel position alliance museums talks this week after a month long standstill including a brutal minute she crackdown on protesters festas african union says the sides have agreed to rotate control of ruining counselor three years to investigate the violence of recent weeks to run has been fuming off the british royal marines seized on impounded and iranian oil tanker need you both touch on thursday the grace one tiny pill is heading to syria with two million barrels of oil in violation of european and you us sanctions on damascus iran has some in britain's ambassador to voice objections to it could illegal and unacceptable sesia on the powerful earthquake has struck southern southern california in an area hundred twenty million people setting off fireworks and damaging buildings no deaths have been reported the six point four magnitude quake is the most powerful in southern california in twenty five years at the center lives on the edge of death valley national park north east los angeles this is the globalist stay a bit by germany's us vendor land to become the next president of the european commission that's been endorsed by all of these leaders except on gonna michael michael's coalition partners have refused to give that stamp of approval ended homerun germany's underlines candidacy has been harshly criticized with lawmakers calling it a victory the back room politics but that's because ryan heath joins us on the line from brussels ryan why why is this nomination coursing such controversy it's puts down to lines and it depends a little bit on your ideological positioning which a line of complaint you're taking so the one that is frustrating most of the members of the european parliament at the moment is the way ursula underlying with no lights as they feel that she didn't campaigns commission president an approach that school districts in canada persists way each political family and you were supposed anoma night the candidates the commission president's see they feel that that wasn't although because nine of the two leading candidates in that process a mental manfred vaber from germany and france timmons from the netherlands one the support of the latest so you've got a lot of egos out of joints noses out of joint down the parliament of purses and then there are some who think that the underlying is simply too conservative and to play with scandals at home season unpopular minister in germany i don't see why someone who's unpopularity the unpopular and not perceived to be a big success at home should be forced to europe i think it's an insult to europe so let's just have a look at that critical i mean is she a qualified candidate for the job she's had quite a checkered past within the defense ministry she's absolutely very impressive canada it's a so she has made it people would go pedigree she was born and raised in brussels falvo balls a european officials who went on to be a successful regional politician in germany she's very smart to qualified as a medical doctor before she began career as a politician and she rose up the ranks very quickly as a politician as well so she was very successful as a minnesota in on blue local government with a social affairs and family minnesota and she really transformed a lot of things like childcare in germany to very popular at the time she was saying it's a bit of a threat to medical even though she was very loyal and then we moved off to the defense ministry six years ago and that's been a graveyard for a lot of german politicians and we know the german military the point of up with not to release these strong given the history of germany's military campaigns and the cold war so it was really they americans that dominated the military seen in germany not the german military and i feel underlined fix all of those problems is almost impossible top but she has been plagued by a bunch of scandals including upper truman scandal that is still under investigation in the german parliament and so that's why you sort of can easily say the critics mobilizing around that performance because it's defeated everyone else before her and she hasn't been raging success why is it includes a victory in politics because there are those who think that voters have a much greater say in who become the leaders of the eight youth and the way ursula underlined was chosen is it was was democratically elected leaders getting together to so but it wasn't something that involve the boat says it wasn't didn't involve a ballot paper in both public campaigning and it just involved people discussing the summit and that's not necessarily undemocratic but it's certainly on transparent it wasn't like we were all watching the livestream how they came to this decision snowmen i mean if she was to win the role could she has come on go back home to become ineffective president i think that if possible she stopped off on the right for her dealings with more closeddoor meeting with members of parliament about what she said was the problem with that sits in canada persist was that it never had the backing of the national government and the national leaders and so she work with any pays well see the point some kind of you working group will come friends to come up with a plan that actually won the backing of the national league so the next time around it would really work that they wouldn't be in the ocean of underlying or presumably she ran again she do it by republican public campaign rather than relying on the back room dealing she maybe hasn't one level of those groups yes she's gonna have a lot of skeptics in the greens and the socialist in particular that she'll have to win over but you're going to begin but those meetings on monday and tuesday next week and how would she shape shape the commission i think that she is really a very convinced european your file basically so she's not somebody who is going to be wavering unsolved she's gonna be someone who has a lot of rhetoric she will push back against leaders like viktor orban she will certainly pushback against the russian government and vladimir through some anti really just doesn't suffer fools gladly so she's convinced lance this i don't know exactly how she handled trump like she would certainly going they're acting like he was a very pro american even if even pro trump administration i think he would just say a lot of very clean cut rhetoric from her she's not someone who mendoza would waste time meeting with dealing with people she doesn't need to deal with she's super focused i mean the only way but you can manage a family of seven children and have a high level political career at one like she is someone who could bring bring bang and get exactly what you want in i mean her appointment is jemma defense minister back in two thousand seventeen was pretty unexpected since this possible new job will say seems to be a surprise i mean this isn't even a name within the famous few a few days ago it wasn't in the talks shortlist let's say but it's a name the offer example put on a long list back in april two thousand and then eighteen just wasting someone who's qualified for the job because she wasn't out there directly campaigning and michelle bonnie i did have that sort of shadow campaigns and he's the brexit negotiator you she just wasn't the first person who came to mind because there is already in the gym and european people's party canada remember manfred neighbor who who didn't win the support of the leaders a so she was never really the frontline canada but she was always someone like fifteen with god that people for who did the job so she's very much a compromise that she see anyone that a pop from her in posse can agree on absolutely i mean they went through at least four five other names were they tried to win support and some of those other people like shell shell the belgian prime minister who got the job as council president they considered him for for the the post of commission for example a so she's absolutely backup canada's a but as with many things and the 0 there's lots of ways this whole problem even if it's not the first attempt when she be concerned and if she isn't yeah so absolutely back to a blank page square one if she isn't concerned but we expect the vote to be on the fifteenth or sixteenth of july so very soon a and if it doesn't work out and they might have tuned someone like migrate invest talk of the high profile competition commissioner she's not someone who's fail that test inside but somewhat room but the whole deal probably falls apart if underlined is rejected because then you you have to reallocate a little bit of a tough jobs and i think that is something that a the mvp is gonna come under a lot of pressure tobacco and they might have to a she might have taken say some policy concessions she might have to agree to allow for example some green commission is in a team that i think that all of the potty they're gonna come under a lot of pressure to uphold this idea of a pro you coalition front of their opponents ryan thank you very much indeed that's ryan heath in brussels this is the globalist will head to washington next then then maybe it has over nine hundred investment analysts from over one hundred million how the shopping mall freshest thinkers in the world a fight to learn no one has long no one knows small business in find out on the project i remember just a time this is the globalist on monocle twenty four traditionally the fourth of july is a time for americans to reflect on the freedoms that the people united states and joy it's generally speaking unknown causes on holiday time to consider what it means to be american but the trump presidency isn't really known for being traditional this year celebration in washington dc is much by display of ministry might tonks troops and tough to king michael thomas lewis is in washington dc he ventured out to speak speak to some of those attending the parade mentally says that i'm from mississippi there were a lot of people were wearing t shirts this car president example did it seem like a parade for the supporters of the current president's over the whole nation defended his quiet night kids joyous thing our very pleasantly surprised the bell like out it was more united by the united states of america because does it famous things on the moments generally or not and not that i'm observing the week that i've been here my name is danny burch i go on from south florida actually mom beachcomber was on cnn it's kind of nice to be in the nation's capital which kind of lots of americans from from different walks of life i guess we're told that the law says the division on guy and distrust the various people in america the moments about your experience with trump trump's or draw you know seeing a downgrade as we told you won't feel unfortunately a lot of people don't see this but there's a lot of trump supporters from all walks of life it's not just unfortunately the racist white people or this or that their pets panic black indian a lot of people that are voting for trump but yeah i don't feel good the vision that a lot of people say that it's evident in a trump supporter so spring from l a's california along is important future make the trip abroad they can just in the last two years president trump has been in office it's just been amazing to feel like in american it's completely different feeling right now versus previous presidents my name is caroline syria and i'm from saint louis missouri this parade feel like a parade for president trump supporters feel like a grateful nation it's really entire nation i'm actually illegal immigrants as united states me my adopted country i came from the middle i've always felt welcomed unpatriotic but more so with president trump he's brought back dignity and pride in america he's brought back pride actually in the military also which i never saw before in my years of being here i had never seen as much pride in the military as this president has done so i think when you start out being proud and respecting the people who will protect does i think that you wrote trump's done specifically those made you feel american the other person didn't didn't play american first day americans and the veterans come first before anyone else and we now i'm a veteran myself and i'm in american and he made it all about at which is what the president's supposed to do governments posted put it to the citizens fires would you describe people come see what you're wearing a t shirt size my shirt from a fundraiser just says fund the wall fund that wall and it's about making sure that we have a rule of law that we follow it in this country illegal immigration accounts for most of they drug activity that's in our country we have over twenty people americans who died in united states at the hands of illegals everyday nobody talks about that we talk about it but the media doesn't wanna talk about it most of those are illegals that come through the border and that doesn't even count the ones who are overdosing and not dead yet it needs to be stopped it needs to be addressed every other country in some way shape perform has foundries has borders that they observe you need that you have doors you have walls in your own house it's not because you don't like the people outside is because you love the people inside you're protecting them that's just commonsense anybody says that's not you're lying mcadam from new york is it feel like it's all happy fourth of july is be like you had a different one now this fourth of july brain a series of events just fun time overall fireworks this evening obviously it's one of the sort of remax fight famous if i were raised in the world that got you for what you most about this evening swap out like watched it on television each year in that's just one of those things where you wanna witness then bringing your family just to show you're patriotism you're love the country and that's just one of those things like dropping the ball in new york city my bucket list i've always wanted to do that's monocle thomas lewis in washington dc with some personal views from trump supporter says no we cross twelve year old son janine sweat collector about us being keeping keeping an eye on how the holidays been reported across usa media the fourth of july got off to a shaky start here in california with a six point four temblor registered just search across los angeles it struck around ten thirty pm local time in what has been described as the largest earthquake in over two decades in southern california spending all the way from long beach to las but despite the magnitude of the quake all i have been sets on the east coast where you as president donald trump decided to play host to the biggest military parade in the country's history daily times leaves with the headline trump or till july speech inserts politics and protests international celebration and then highlights many of his policies and criticizes the democrats roughing off a list of american and accomplishment an invention in the name of freedom so far his administration has not released at taxpayer price tag for the fourth of july celebration that based on usual expense of mobilizing this sort of equipment and personnel the coast could easily run into the millions of dollars the chicago tribune decided to leave the headline trump hailed the military at fourth of july event in washington and many supporters and protesters nodding to the fact that despite the numbers the crowd was very much mix a quote from the newspaper noted how protesters had made their voices heard despite the sweltering heat by the washington monument month while the vip section of the reflecting pool served as something of a buffer for tom designed back to the west coast the san diego union tribune looks at how president donald trump celebrated the greatest politico journey in human history and quote no thing how he called on americans to stay true to our cours ns salute to america program that the year to patriotic themes and hails an collecting mix of fisheries heroes from the armed forces space and he's on the field right it wasn't a particularly pass we optics fourth of july especially here in los angeles and then the west coast where the focus because it was in turn to washington by the by the president's decided to hold a military parade should solve all of us in our truck even if it takes more than the shake or so to do it for monocle in los angeles on lost her bella thank you carl octa you're listening to the globalist on monocle twenty four so those of us old enough to remember a time when movies movies were watched in cinemas and television stuck to his schedule that may be little risk of confusing the two mediums but times have changed and editorial out this week and the hollywood reporter suggests that in cages streaming it might be timed combined me academies represent film and television nicholson i know augusta cheka and then run an optimal well first of all seen the change started in a wave very slowly monday academy they i mean they they've added quite a load new members and similar similar dinner singer some of them work with tv so they're not the traditional hollywood people in a way so i mean but i think my problem with what stephen roads that he when he went as far as saying that there should be like you know the emmys and they also 'cause they should combined itself in one big tv show quite a few throughout the year i think that's quite a i think he will be dreaming and that way i mean i don't i don't think it's happening any and if does i think would be quite shocking full of people because let's be honest people are watching tv and everything but he amazon not as near as glamorous and relevant as do oscar said well they try they do i think a large part of that is because a television tends be quiet domestic doesn't end so if you're watching the emmys here in the uk at one maybe fifty sixty percent of the television shows that they're talking about we wouldn't even be relevant to us would then a so i mean even something as as high profile is willing grace you cannot legally watch will and grace the reboot here in the uk so what is there is quite a strong border when it comes to lebron but the film's that's a very different story isn't it i suppose looking at this from thee other perspective dave 'em eight they might be commercially space argument for combining these ceremonies simply because they the viewership for it certainly feels 'cause at least has really been in decline for a long time and it's getting to the point now way if something doesn't change we could in a few years be looking at v situation of april costa not wanting me oscars in review by the commercial side because if if it comes to a point where you have netflix or amazon prime and they and they have films that are not necessarily for the theater for the for the mood flexes but then it would be a shame if they released great films that cannot be nominated because it had didn't have the theatrical release a of course would roll my netflix famously famously put romo for a few weeks in a couple of cinemas just to be eligible but you know why should have they you know i kind of understand that side as well but then it gets very confusing them because correct me if i'm wrong but don't they have a category called the best film made for tv or something like that that's true it is very confusing it's a bit confusing but i see for me it's confusing but for a different reason because a so i'm looking at this very much from the perspective is that the canned film festival looking at this as well and i think it is actually a little easier if they can to say no there is a difference between film and television because can is a european festival it's all about french cinema it's about europeans in a more it's about well well cinema and they're very strict about films needing have proper run in cinemas but when you go to the united states as you say that has always been a category of of best made for tv movie but historically made tv movies have generally been quite different in in in in that format and he looked inside jail in in the kind of topics they tackled the way they tackled him i mean the lifetime channel has really made its whole night and based on those let's call them tacky so be a tele movies and i do have quite a soft spot for the generally there hasn't been a lot of confusion about those two things are we simply getting to the point now because of streaming now those two things are starting to blur and it is in the impossible to tell the difference between a movie made for netflix on one made for cinema well but i do think you know even though you know stephen very optimistic about this confusion between both academies but don't you think there'll be quite a lot of resistance from old hollywood because yes streaming is good i mean apparently that feel murder mystery of jennifer aniston apparently more than thirteen million people watch those something something that would never happen in the cinema these days a but don't you think the fish i still think filmmaker one to see his film or her film in in in cinema absolutely actual release because the problem netflix i mean we've discussed this many times just releasing and then he gets lost in this kind of open rate is if his yeah yeah i mean is it do the buzz my lost a week or something and then it's completely gone it's nothing like running the cinema way you'll be talking about aqua man or or captain marvel of weeks months sometimes up to a year that does seem lost especially if you a you know the new vendors movie but in your view roofing they academies will combine give a let's say twenty years time i'm not show the bell even need to come by and i think one of the most fascinating part of this piece by stephen galloway is that they eighties and isn't interesting piece in their very many interesting points raised here especially about how a hollywood has always been reluctant with the times even going back to the the switch the firm silent movies to the talking movies there's always been this reluctance to accept that things are moving on but when you think about it there's not gonna be any need three academies to combine because you know we've already got the oscars and the golden globes we've already got the venice film festival and the canned film festival just because these two things these three awful things a serving fairly similar purposes doesn't mean they need to merge into one i think what will wind up with is an academy for television academy for films and there'll be made up of maybe eighteen ninety percent of the same people but that's okay because they'll be voting for different things in different reasons and emotionally these two different things will have different meanings that's the way to go fernando augusta check and then rheinland still can look at the day's business news on the league's i'm in the states such as mad magazine raises its middle finger single one last time this is the globalist stay tuned thirty five minutes past the top of the un georgina godwin and it's time to continue with today's newspapers joining me to do that in the studio she did is down mccaffrey's the brussels correspondent figure news welcome to you good morning good morning a rare appearance by you in the studio nobody we grab you on the phone from europe dj before the weekends at london for the time being remains positive europe at so those individ tober at least let stuff in pakistan the with this up see shocking story in it must be said he backs that movement is not just confined to pakistan and over indeed ed to afghanistan the pulse of the wild i mean you have to look at friends many parts of europe with their concerns but the reason it takes on significantly particularly in pakistan ends in deeds as just had enough ghanistan i think it's nigeria is because they only possible well what potier was still a major major problem and they sexy combined to things eight kind of spread of fake news on social media with facebook twitter and youtube i think having pulled down two hundred videos falsely the claiming the hundreds of children have died after vaccinations which is spread like wildfire needs nets in pakistan and led many families to insist that the children shouldn't be vaccinated but you have to add to this the kind of an islamic extremes in element to his while in which as many many people have been kind of convinced to one over at by their argument that essentially these vaccinations will kind of being imposed by the west in order to sterilize at muslim children and or a cover for western at spy agency so is this kind of conspiracy theory so you go in pakistan and india have gotten this done is the kind of combination of these two narratives would you kind of question together i'm leading to a even though i think forty million children have been vaccinated this year thirty seven confirmed cases so far which is triple the number of coded last year and polio of course like so many things is eight massively debilitating disease a four for for children and this is a real real problem in pakistan particularly is the world is a century old but try to eliminate and succeeded with polio apart from these small pockets and there was a sense a couple of years ago that they were just on the precipice of doing it and and it looks like it's not going backwards in anything said of course you know you could also give you a given i think actually be assassination or the death whatever you wanna call it of osama bin laden did come about because some of the uss commes fbi agents he's used at the kind of the cover of vaccinations awaits get close to come on and pakistan you know the reason adamant as a rule where there's there's a kind of grain in truth and these but it's it's quite depressing news in many regards yeah absolutely i had immunity is so important in this particular story picks up on the side the husband has devoted his life for vaccinating their children which is extraordinary let's move onto the u s t a and a any yeah so ed sicilians m down in southern italy turning the league that is material sylvie niece at policy who is seen it meteoric rise in italian politics over the last five years and so come from i think they got about one to three percent in the polls at back in twenty fourteen according to the most recent wander off to seventy seven point three percent that's all on the thirty four percent they got in the european elections and rarely winning expense of the coalition partners within government which is the five star movement and it's interesting that this an f t article a focus is on it says fustrated voters even though the actress used by so viz italy fest an anti migrant stance and to a degree gina theses apart migration but i think again world was focusing on the wrong form of migration so everyone thinks that southern italy is obsessed by migrants coming across the meds at from northern africa which they all to a degree but she be dying down into this the route kohl's overseas is she immigration immigration it's the very fact the paces in sicily there's no one left m i as i think one of the people they interview said it easy beautiful yet abandoned lands which doesn't speak of migrants who speaks the very fact that people are leaving a nazi if you look at where the league is doing well in italy where volkswagen in one instance where they ask do you have done well in germany where even though i would say kind of brexit is done well in the uk and there's no weather vast numbers of migrants in fact she where there is a significant immigration where people are uncomfortable the change in communities because the communities of dying on the feet yeah this is the greatest place on us not the sort of types of people would want to leave us says first on some in the daily telegraph the daily telegraph which also has as its editorial comment burst on some is right for the job that would also be the same newspaper which pays mrs jones and i think it's two hundred and fifty thousand pounds a year i realize his column i really wish the day type of who come off the fence and rudy boris johnson and and the reason that's using the story is known for the content it must be said a were both onto the party's gonna say or how said innings you did say britain will be the greatest place at to leave to raise you're finally kissing your kids to school to breathe clean in the sauna business and so on and so on an but it is almost kind of this sense of you know what is the daily telegraph doing as you say he's eight columbus for the newspaper festival has any potential kind of perspective prime minister still have so much access to what is eight very significant publication in this country and second of all you know we talk about fake news that we talk about kind of propaganda and the spread of that and we have to remind ourselves somewhat true of course it is but it's nothing you you look at kind of the line the daily telegraph of taking the eighties just alternate art propaganda and it really does take away from the eighties eighty newspaper i know the pamphlet since he put the ball restaurants in a campaign but you know like him like so this newspaper and so many you've even the kind of centrists mp's and the conservative policy at the sticking demotions like blue 'cause they all think he's gonna win yeah interesting to look at the stunted to lead george us only editors is putting himself up was talking about being being the head of death well quite i mean the man who i don't think they should get on saturday well given the fact they were on opposite sides of the referendum campaign but i think someone said to george osborne that you should stick to the knicks conservative policy to like glues and he certainly doing not giving his you say he wants to take over from christine google just see i on that very very quick look now at a sit down and brussels on cry over mayor of amsterdam opposes the closed the red light district of course anyone who's speaking to amsterdam i'm sure he's been to the red light district eighties i call nick some would say in the center of town that but there's a new female green who says things need to change he says it's a it's all very demeaning for the woman who said she or just that'd be uncle dots and actually it is quite degrading as for the team's ready taken away from it's kind of historical passed but she say she knows what position it must be said i think there's lobi group red light united which is that ninety percent of the hundred and seventy female sex workers who work there won't continue to work in the neighborhood they say it's really important that the visible as otherwise why would people be able to find and prostitutes i would argue in a theme that does exist these days bar an it's a kind of age age old karsh in many regards but it is interesting that the domino has been to some time trying to move from away from what used to be they cd kind of reputation and that's you know it's kind of a very chic one of the most visited cds and you're in fact many would argue i'm i'm big problem is there's too much tourism go this weekend you'll be unable to move well not true i don thank you so much for coming in that don mccaffrey of your news how great the sounds of it's a gas which appeared on a wreck all those distributed with copies of mud magazine in nineteen sixty three it's published a dc comics has announced it will discontinue the legendary says a magazine from next month in a moment i'll discuss mads legacy which ends hyman from high knock the world's largest collection of magazines but first here's monica robert bound up sixty seven years mad magazine's august issue will be it's lost a full from then on only best of additions of old material will be published this bad taste exempt left the seamy side of the american dream the stomach chevy's tile in the seventh finger any ice cream sunday has penned its final town and pulled alfred inhuman that wrote quote gone wrong all american brat cover stuff has grinned his gap she's lost it's a dumb thing to say the end of an era but it's another piece of print sucked in the vacuum of the digital black hole but it's also true mad made the running in the mid nineteen fifties when the wall suspicious sides of college radio no jokes with king charlie howard stern would listen with interest mad would then inherits mercurial this editorial ethic from the purchase that's up in the nineteen sixties states and that extra teenage sickness sunday night live would have been dead without mads formative buffoonery while the titles commercial policy lift up to its name they sold new ads for forty four years less taking money from the corporations they lampooned poon might seem hypocritical whether it's the kids magazine read by adults or adult's magazine read by children will never grilled but we can say the influence out down the circulation although it did so over two million copies in the mid nineteen seventies so we raise middle finger in some news that april nineteen seventy four cover with matt offensive apogee after someone nickel on the mound thank you very much develop while i'm joined now by james hyman from hind that will will well not legacy be i think i would echo well how yankovic said on twitter yesterday the day before she must be yesterday he lamented the loss is one of the all time greatest american institutions and go degree the other other sort of accolades relationship is kevin newman the film critic ravens leaving the tower of london moment for america it really was the most incredible american institution not just a moment when global well the highlights from the publication few years i loved it i loved just all the contributors i mean ruled i guess in the sixties and seventies you head out jaffe nine for those folding i mean that's something you'll never be able to ditch the by sort of eight the playboy centerfold by you would fold in the back cover i just loved older more druk aka such as regarding as the parodies of all the films in pop culture there's so many in one specific cartoon i think it was my favorite costume was this little kid and he had five cents the spending a little follow up moody show keep off the shelf and he throws his little follow working in full panels it created fantastic humor so i loved it no longer relevant now that we seem to limit it's more relevant whenever i i mean i i think that some extent that smelling excuse for its demise maybe it just had this business so long i think basically just struggled to find its identity and increasing me sets off saturated weld sat around us you sit all day long and you'll feeds on facebook's which even instagram whatever you see sat around so now i i i think it's basically the business just went wrong the brand struggled mm thinkers of course it wasn't taking advertising correct and i mean that's a very interesting point is a good piece in david mogo dick's new yorker in the two thousand fourteen shooting yoka whether they talk about how you know matt to call me are not just you have to come smoking industry on advertising industry you know rudy lampooning the one messiah very very controversial ever those hitler advice in march nineteenth you'd never get away with this today and the the the tagline on the answer is in the thirties and forties we know of millions of people unfilled countless summit trees hitler declared that's nothing i wanna talk about a really fantastic cemetry filler cigarette so yet to advertise not doesn't help it as a business yeah alfred newman cosi a fictional not mask us tell us about the 'cause he appeared on almost all of the front pretty much older than me i have a smiling face absurd version he been floating around in iconography for decades and it was picked up by they debuted in nineteen fifty four i think it was a guy called out far fetched demon fifty six he basically wanted the look of a kid who had the devil mac catcher chewed on tico adopted a with a catchphrase what me worry first i think cited prominently in nineteen thirties on roosevelt of used in a presidential campaign ironically trump even started off in human when he was sort of slacking off the democrat pete put together by saying outfit comp become come president's say you know around it debuted in nineteen fifty four yeah gosh that's a long time they speak about anything on the market which could take its place because you know i think it's just those fragments of sats all the place i i personally think just rebrand you know the face of done a very good job but rebranding itself the semi what you could do i wanna have a a coffee table book of all those foldout so i mean is carrying on a pending the covers there'll be new covers up the package video content it's a very very good brian yesterday seventy six thousand followers on twitter is not bad it could carry on his brand lots of these magazines have had that demise but they carry on digitally and i just just be nisha annual physical production yeah as a magazine collect presumably this will previous issues if the not really valuable yes yes indeed have a full run probes unfold ron and yes it will change thank you very much indeed many thanks to james hyman the from hi mike this is the latest will check the day's business headlines released kicker next movie as the global financial services firm with over a hundred and fifty years of heritage built on the unique dedication of 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which makes no sense at all this is the crazy well we've got to in the post financial crisis west central banks banks have indulged in virtually zero interest rate policy and quantitative easing this is the world we get to and what he's all about this is the german eight puppy thanks to its history it's very off their background is actually not using you know if you if you could vote borrowed a payback less money in the future you probably got one spending splurge wouldn't you no no germany they're actually running a budget surplus and pay down that that they're not using this incredible negatively in interest rates as an opportunity to spend now what's happening is that 'em be european economy is slowing we know that we've got christine lagarde taking some mario draghi at the head of the european central bank it's consensus opinion and she will continue with more sort of monetary stimulus only potentially potentially even more rightcounsel the european central bank right so pretty much zero or even more quantitative easing but it's not just germany belgium from the netherlands couldn't old borrow at negative interest rates for ten ten years so if you give money to belgium from the netherlands at the end of ten years old with inflation over those ten years you will get less back then you then you gave him in the first place it's a truly extraordinary well we we are now living and it tells you an old loved about the outlook for inflation and growth which is the bone bone markets affectively think very sluggish growth and the eighty you very muted inflation and in fact it's sort of like the potential japan panic vacation of europe japan hasn't grown hasn't had inflation this had negative interest rates for decades now a gold coast is one thing that always seems to or at least for a civilian like me seems to to hold its value a it seems to be a particularly good stage at the moment so now be where we go doesn't hold its value so normally when you invest in something so you invest in the stock market you get dividends back and hopefully the price of the shatt will go up norman they normally normally when you buy bums government debt you normally get interest so you normally you know but she goes you're getting this thing you just get something that's been dug out in the ground and then you hold it doesn't give you any income so it's not a great investment however when the world is zero interest rates than affectively the value of gold improves because you're not getting i just explained to germany and france netherlands and all these other countries and if you're not getting interest you'll and you'll savings on on you know from lending people money that you might as well on a gold and what we've seen again it's kind of the same story it's the reason why bitcoins and crypto currencies have done very well recently by their extraordinarily volatile but it's the same story said gold is it almost a six year high end these old to do with this globally central banks are looking to cut rates again so we've got the federal is a pretty much guaranteed in america right in july and you've got countries all over the world looking to cut writes the stimulate growth even austrailia which has i think the raccoon so the longest ever expansion thanks to its close ties with china even your strategy in central bankers writes this week on the australian government has come out with a hundred and ten billion dollar let's find so this is this is all about the reason why gold is going up is because of a sluggish growth no interest right so interest rates being talked and it's and it's another part of the story now you're talking about the japanese economy in the stagnation there it looks like it's gonna get a further not because south korea wants to boycott japanese goods so this is a story that goes back to world war two when japan invaded the korean peninsula forced enforce the koreans into a full labor with the human rights abuses and full screen women into prostitution the japanese all me that was supposed to be insulted in nineteen sixty five agreement however the divisions in the tensions run deep a very deep in fact and what happened on thursday stay on yesterday's japan restricted the export of high tech material to south korea puppy following president trump's initiatives with while way in china who knows but but that's what the that's what happened yesterday japan said we're not gonna export i am highest tax to south korea and then walks confirm that is south korea's now boycotting japanese goods now some sun creon giant of south korea's giant a chip maker a mobile phone handset onset make a technology company reported quarterly profits this morning halls now this is you know some some kind of be these the children the crown of career they are already suffering from the global trade war that already suffering from that slugging by ball handset sales and frankly this latest war this like escalation of the of the walls between japan the war of words between the john japan and south korea is is it could well seriously tom damage you know the the sort of global supplies of chips and some song is watching the house about louise thank you very much indeed that was due east and that's all for today's program thanks to produce suspend violin and daniel face charges such as financial august at the checkout annealing niche a studio manager today with kenya scarlet with editing assistance from miles from some of the headlines there's more music on the way the briefing is live at midday in london today with andrew mullah on the globalist returns

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"Players are moving moving thanksgiving everybody who came out to see us on friday morning at bar louie in downey what a great spot no it's cool that's a good spot great crowd the show the people packed the house we really did credit all of us you see walking in at five thirty people lined up around the corner it was great man when i got out of my car at about five twenty and there was maybe maybe ten or fifteen people in line by five forty there is fifty people and by six the line it wrapped all the way around the corner over there in by the time we're on the air at six o'clock the place was packed you know something that is fantastic drinking like at seven o'clock drinking beer beer beer beer beer six six but i really notice it like it's seven yeah all the beer 'cause body and people start in order and breakfast breakfast in washington down with beer i'm sitting there sitting here that must tastes awfully bad right it's it's pretty good yeah drive a little bit of a fried potatoes with some eggs on it and the bearded chase it that's not the worst in the world oh yeah yeah that's true but you know what else either jason traff seven fifty eight keys doppler on sunday that six degrees right now in san gabriel high of eighty nine it'll be sunny hot rod like you know how to listen to the show national creative ice cream flavors day we got new fans just put cheese headline presented by sprint sprint gawker new new got the heat alert went off a lot of times that's all gone oh yeah crazy bad cognitively free will you missed it no that's not a joke i'm serious otherwise he does he does that kind of heat to are aerobics print came by the asian front that does handstand guys in palestinian adeline no but he said we couldn't come workout with him shutdown daytime high they're not gonna be able to touch touch it i went to a hang gliding karen even see toy story four that is pretty its first time you know i don't remember seeing any other toss tourist stories i just don't they're all good but this one was hilarious out of the city otherwise at least i don't remember but it was just a funny kids movie man the little the little for keita's spoon that the the sport but she she named porky okay in in so she had a spoon and she made little like a little dog with legs this broke broke the sticks spoiler alert but whatever here he should come on man we've been out two weeks i mean the movie's been out two weeks they racked up another fifty nine million dollars over the weekend so you should have gone to by now some of the other hand what he was running around with the little spoon taking care of it for the young lady who happens to be the daughter of the sun from the last one handy dandy yes in and it was just hilarious the the little toys instead of talking in the middle of the night when the parents asleep in everybody's asleep in this room felt like it was garbage it belonged in a trash can what the throwaways plastic spoon so even though it's all dressed up in q with the blues all stuck to it and had arms and legs in all sorts of it kept trying to dive into the trash can every chance he could get away get away from the ties with russia dive the traffic here at what what time is on the end of the bed the traffic is next impair italy off the bed into the stratosphere oh man it was just too funny but it was good to end the good thing about it is i was you know what the so now apple is which is they serve serve alcohol beverages and the whole deal food and i have a few cocktails so that helps you made the movie typically when i go to the movies with the kids in the daytime i'm like speeds go back yeah and i'm lights out the us over they gotta ask you gotta wake me up the tell me anything but this one i stayed up the entire way i'm surprised you haven't seen it yet elsie just been busy and i have personal experience you know because those like why are you laughing chris how he said that oh it's the fault of arms as i've been i've been busy but also like a four it's you know it's like i kid you know why not get to once you get to like forum life force a lot it's a lot force a lot but those guys that make those movies the pixar movies they they only make money year and they typically don't mess here right if they're gonna make it it's probably a pretty good move like all with all the toys you know the he handy andy handed the dow all his toys his daughter in you know toys were like you know stuffed animals obviously had a dinosaur yes rented the dinosaurs mr komi oh yes and let me tell you they're still they're they're my favorite so double the pair of the bank will tell you though piggy bank all that yeah the parents come in into the room hotel in all of a sudden they buy play all of a sudden the toys just go boom they don't say anything of parents were talking we're hustler don't wait wait a minute nike i thought you said andy pass authorities now no to his daughter yeah i mean kids are ways to draw you know he never knew no revenue no no people know that no how did at the beginning when they attack him in the back of your head simple fact of bud light look check this out those all the toys is there there's a bunch of in they they're talking to the parents come into the room they both they go quiet their their ear hustle and the parents were talking about taking a road trip the parents elite they all jumped up and down it's only went on a trip he left hell's going on area have the two seconds is there and fcc lob giving away four play by play of a movie like the baker okay okay i have a week so here's right a bunch of guys man i know i know but i do know we're gonna do seen by theme throughout the whole movie that is interesting though is that andrew stat and i guess who was the original a screenwriter for the first one there this one he's also the guy who did finding nemo and then the dory movie so he's used to work in the sort of huge gap between the middleman equals bail man i don't know how many movies there's been like fifteen or twenty give or take i i don't know but i've seen 'cause my kids were kids when those movies came out like i've seen if not all of them nearly all of them i can't think of a bad one there they all hit yeah no this will most definitely hit that was keys headline in the morning raj wants to more caspian no other toy you got the stuff now you got the money and that's a different type of music differently i do wanna see them live action a lion king though i'm gonna see that right out the gate on the show at disney california adventure by the way of the nets yes as his kyri should make girl toy story we have on land in the way he did he agree yeah 'cause he did he did he agree kevin durant yeah he he you don't even call it okay maybe going oh i just wasn't sure using a story that steph curry was like on a plane back to new york and talk to him about restarted with the golden state the warriors when he found out on the plane is a commercial his plane today attorney i hope back i doubt very seriously if he's fly united or you know it's not like he had the land in new york get off get a baggy just frightening prowling around york anyway for seven straight as he was leaving china to go specifically to new york the topic kevin direct south acting i only wear the warriors and midflight 'cause you know it's a long trip there was let's play this out katie goes to the nets an he's obviously not gonna play next season but the season after that let's say he's katie and he's really good but let's say never pops for them what is it due to the rice say properly twice the key reasons all right let's say never happens it never happens for dessert kevin durant opinion get changed at all or is it the same thing but he'd be as you said it earlier rosie the reason that the warriors won their most recent two championships were against kevin durant's the best player on the floor in in in all of those and kevin durant's was on the best team he's the best player on the best team and they won now that he's gone will see what happens with the wars i think we all agree is gonna be far far different because of age and because of katie and everything else but if he goes the the rubbed it he joined it ready made champion and then leaves and it doesn't happen somewhere else what happens there we still says is it a see i told you you had the go do that you never got one quote unquote on your own or because of the way it went and golden state and he was the guy that he was and we are done without people people that wanna talk negative about any they're gonna do that regardless even if you wanna championship say he only did it because the kyri and using the east in golden state fell apart and the lakers couldn't get their act together in houston it never was any good they they people don't come up with their own excuses if they don't like you that's just what it is now the the biggest thing for him is be expectations in the hype surrounding him in the new york city in the tri state area that's that that there is the pressure it ain't gonna be on initiate 'cause everything is a cool we you know he's hurt we'll wait it's the following year when he's actually on the floor plan when kyrie let's say never gets the kevin durant's stuff back that's not gonna be forgiven 'cause they gave modern sixty some odd million dollars they remember you at golden say and what you did for golden state they expect you to do for them in brooklyn end the fact that you came there with them promising all of this you promise any of that they promised it themselves meaning the fan base the media they're the ones who said you're going to do this in in when it doesn't happen ever same was who's going to turn or you in say certain things about you and do certain things and then me but because these were the quote unquote be side of the city he's gonna have the luxury of not having those expectations right away that that's what you want is the only reason they answered opinion kyri had joined the knicks the michael reports the spike lee's they would drive this thing to a whole new level but because it's been nuts but it's him it's him but it's still the nets here in new york city is him but it's the net for this him hambur he's bringing even notice the nets he's putting eight twenty on the team he's put that stat beep because of who he is his personality his ability the play his sensitivity that everyone says that that is the key to all this now that the knicks is in the story anymore it's the nets so as a writer and you know as a journalist you following the story you you know you're not gonna sit in the empty room you're gonna go where everybody else's going if everybody else is going over to to the nets the covered him pay attention to them because for whatever reason that buses they're they're winning just enough games and keep you interesting but not really over the top that's where the problems are gonna come up because of the new media and travis you know this kid's well chris story has been nonstop about what the knicks didn't do versus what the nets dead and that to me is the dynamic that's very similar to the lakers and clippers it's like when you're the perennial be signed unless you win you're always gonna have the luxury of being allowed to lose once you start winning many expectations of you continuing to win is going to start dominating but until they actually went eight chip i still think him and kyrie as long as they're in the playoffs and they get to the conference finals in snapping and pop and things like that because you gotta remember philadelphia and got a hell of a lot better milwaukee is not going anywhere so it'll be okay for them to lose to the stack philadelphia squad if there is the nets made in right away six maybe read looked at the v expectations for the nets and the knicks are obviously far different because the knicks from jump or gonna all right win a championship the nets you get a little bit more of a runway i don't disagree with that but my the question i have is we expectations while maybe less than what the knicks are still gonna be massive they're gonna be massive because he's gotta be running partner and kyrie irving who's another top tier player in this league they they basically jordan i guess yeah right they did this talk on the decided to put together a quote unquote super team so they could go do this so they expectations or gonna be there in kevin durant has shown he's fairly sensitive to criticism and this is when he's been in oklahoma city and the bay one the bay they're winning everything they're winning championships they're going to the finals so he's been center the criticism in two places where he's been incredibly popular and very very successful if he goes to new york in anything other than a runner the championship is happening i don't know what he's gonna look like because he hasn't responded they any sort of criticism well morning show this federal much more talking about what try this nothing is trying to decode the music here i mean you gotta know bb king right it's called the blues try try out some drivers have the bloom well hold on a second i i think i got it right so are we doing dan ackroyd blues brother's no were doing w guess about that we're going for happy birthday dan ackroyd it turns sixty seven today who is here let's see how you can lose brother alive cone heads to the cone had he will be ghostbusters go out yeah the cold calling me funny cody on saturday night live were really did a movie one of all time worst movies ever put on cancer i joked anytime it's certainly not for ninety minute writer were from france got it now birthday dinner guards birthday sixty seven years old is brought to you by jaguar land rover newport beach off the seventy three tore the sea visit land rover newport beach dot com i'm sorry we laughing at i just the tv but that is for the royals oh gosh they went into the yankees locker room yeah megan and harry that's why i was laughing like i'm not interested i'm interested in making machine area it's right now you know the line drive is a little just a little bit while you lined up there i find her interesting specter royalty i find harry very very cram staying out of this one wonder if they're real baseball fans that's why i'm laughing at the day i mean without a disaster it felt like it when you have a game at seventeen the thirteen it feels like something went wrong baseball disaster well maybe they only won one game two and both of whom were way over there for two games seventeen thirteen was the score one game in the next i wanna say it was twelve the sixers something crazy like that still far too many seventeen thirteen three here in new york a steve mills look and say well you should that you buy the reason the kevin durant's net is because they wouldn't go that fifth year or the knicks just the knicks i should say just trying to save a little bit of face by saying the reason we chose not to do it is because we're worried about because it's much easier to say well i wasn't interested in her after she already chose somebody else i i will say that winemaking doctor i thought that they were going to be knickerbockers both of yes i did i will go to the knicks before i would the nets but if the knicks don't wanna pay me me in they plan around my money you know okay what i know i got the max out there right if i know somebody give me a hunting sixty four whatever somebody wants to give me two hundred per round numbers of whatever the case is it i know that there's nineteen teams hammy to hunter it i walk in the room and you said well you know i think that sort of thing where they release saying that they knew he was leaning another way so they were trying to make it look like the ones i think at the end of the day they knew that many at the end end of the day they don't wanna do it based on injury at the number you need it and realize that he would just be like you know whenever my i just can't believe that times sometimes new york people overpriced themselves just because it's new your vsbn front office insider amino hassen morning a mean well let me let me can you believe that the blend got a full and here is the blackest front office mb i couldn't get it done so all right so there i got some background around on this because ramona actually had this story for a few days that's not something that just happened because i got a lot of people said oh it's just they were just starting a safe house rapes and this is something that was going on for a few days and apparently according ramon is reporting they knew that dolan was having cold feet but they thought that they would be able to hey man look this is the cost of doing business with a player this talent you can't you can't not come correct and i guess it they didn't were not successful in that regard 'em but keys right the reason why is because they were you know running that they they thought about a march that amar thought about joke him noah they thought about a eighty kerry a wedding i just wasn't good about it's not about it's not about carmelo on some level right all players who had a various injury issues and they went in all in on the money and then it came back to bite them and so somehow this is where they quote unquote learn their lungs kevin durant is really the headlines around draw the line straight start jeremy limit the championship jam there were like well you know what dammit we gotta get something right but you know what's funny is you know we talked about it even in the moment i said i was in phoenix when the more style tomorrow is a free agent right and we knew his body had a clock on it we knew he was a great player and we knew he he did a lot of good things for us so we gave him what was a max offer but the the last three years that deal with very heavily non guaranteed right in the case of kevin durant this is how you know he's worth the money the team that adam offered on full fully guaranteed right in arcades the most out of my we you had like i don't know that's how you know the he's worth it in in when you look at it people were sitting there saying that the knicks knew he was going bell so they just kinda jumped up in the middle of the night on twitter just say whatever they said yeah they news because they offer murder something that he didn't loan so at the end of last just like anything any of us when we know are worth in we know we have suitors you know it's like okay man you know what i'm we'll stay with you and dance which you but if you're sitting around you re play these games with me you know what never mind take less i'll take left to go across the street are all good just forget it never mind it's like the klay thompson situation klay thompson the one ninety they were being at home for a minute the moment that they wanna play games they would have been a i'm done then that's the point the point is also like if you got it just pay it don't mess around 'cause messing around is that's an alien eight people yeah you're not you don't you don't respect this right when kevin durant leaving golden state no matter what i think andrew change things it made it maybe should say i think the way the organization really stepped up but i think ultimately men do that his mind up for awhile for a long while we talked about months ago he moved all his business stuffed in new york that the the road was being paid it would have taken i don't know what it would take maybe if he hadn't gotten hurt but it did come back and one finals mvp helped him win that championship i dunno i really don't know i think ultimately he wanted to play with his friends that's the that's the big thing like you wanna put like yonder joined the boy as well raimondo's reporting yesterday when jordan was doing that whole thing with the clippers in the mavericks in the chair and and the tweeting and all that he was texting the rent all throughout that process and when durant was planning on coming to golden state he was texans yonder during that process yardage on his friend kyrie irving his friend and if you wanna find one moment on how how those three guys friends it was the twenty sixteen a home lympics olympic olympic strikes again rio de janeiro had stopped doing that a complete control of their team that were signing or trade or move over over the last twenty four hours for you what's the biggest head scratcher head scratcher oh 'em i it's not fair to pick on the knicks but signing seven million power forward that like i don't get it like that's not a time to give sounds like come on dog which are doing bobby portis thirty one million dollars i i look no disrespect stick to those guys right little bit no no no no no because if you just told me we got bobby portis okay you're spending money wisely and slowly but surely not gonna blow it all just but they went out and got bobby portis julius randle and taj gibson and they already got richer robinson instance i mean i just i don't understand what the the logic is gonna spend at least mix it up do they have pieces that they think though that will be desirable they're making trade later so in other words we're just gonna stockpile desirable players because we can't put together a team everyone i think i mean you could say that but most desirable pieces that were talking about are gonna be the guys are already there the dennis smith junior and the alonzo trigger and guys like those other guys that people might be interested in the guys they signed my want one of these other but again when you signed too many gods play the same position people would say oh it's like a great competition but they only see by the in a football sense a quarterback controversy is good because that means the best man is gonna win in the nfl if i win the quarterback job guess what i'm thinking ninety nine percent of the snaps other guy isn't near never see the field right yeah envy that's not the case even if you win the starting job you're still competing playing with those other guys and plus you might have to play with them and there's no chemistry it's hard for anybody any of those gusts of sixty plus sign in the same guys and basketball all fame start a skill sets and everything like what type of offense a damn defense do you think you're thinking about running waking up when he joined in his boys gets kind of like that in milk splashing on yours nearly all morning through them since right eddie murphy a death thirty one years ago coming to america is in theaters coming back i think like as equal sequel i'm real nervous the undefeated the website be undefeated has a really interesting a story about how nineteen eighty eight with such instrument a year in black americans like culture because you got coming to america you got n w h straight outta compton and that's like one other thing i'm thinking oh is do the right thing i think you do anything eighty nine eighty nine thirtieth anniversary a sometime in the next couple of weeks to some other the rundown big no no i appreciate it is on the run now but it's not it's not a matter of hours and i'm not talking job i mean no one's not what i'm talking about just got here i don't know publican coming in miami funny i think he pretty funny loser coming o'malley josh arms i'm sweating the sequel there's just some level you can never right ever meet the right but then when you throw in like eddie's career we're in the last twenty years other than shrek that's what makes you really start to get nervous now someone pointed out he hasn't made a rated r movie in a long time so maybe that's a you know yeah but no he i think he got this i hope i hope so i hope you got this yeah that could go wrong a lot of different ways m y with the big name they did not make a decision yesterday it looks like were a day or two or who knows how long down the road before he makes a decision but where do you think ultimately it's gonna lead because the the the music is stopped the teams that were in on him or still options you the the raptors obviously have money the clippers have money the lakers have money is it still a three horse race are we talking it's the lakers lose at this no it's a three horse race and to be honest with you travis where he ends up is less important than when he ends up because if you're the team that doesn't get you know when when we went into free agency when the lakers finally got that thirty two million dollars cleared out we said how should you go get a star or should you take that money and go get your deep team right it was a it was a decision that they had me quiet leonard became available like okay we gotta wait on this one because she is in the league he's the best free agent on the board right but the problem will quiet because he takes his time making decisions the board is even if you said we want in another max got dangerous gone right jimmy butler gone right tobias has gone okay so now you say all right we're gonna take that money one split among good solid vets boy on bogdonovich gone patrick beverley gone danny green looks like he's gone right and so now you're saying well there no stars left but there may not even be good role players left right cheer three guys right patrick beverley is not a tier two guy but he's a good solid pro he's off the board ricky rubio is off the board so now we're looking at the dude who have inside not because they're waiting for the right deal because nobody's calling their phone and that's what you gotta go out and and go purchasing me what i'm i'm kind of okay from the lakers perspective because you you said it patrick beverley is not a tier two player but he's pay like one now and i don't wanna put it on like one either i don't wanna i don't wanna spend a lot of money on guys 'cause i gotta spend the money i wanna spend the money smartly regardless of the plant and i don't think that when i look at you you mentioned bogdonovich he's a nice player i don't know if he's worth that much money but see the the co why situation i mean thirty two million we got the money we go sit around and wait on collide and we really not waiting on why and once you're doing we just everything is just chill right now we already had are discussions magic than already talked to probably multiple times the bron product and and talk to multiple times eighty product talked to multiple times resident in let the dust settled resident just rush out there after coming off a championship just 'cause it's two weeks later three weeks later now all of a sudden i have to announce the day of free agency or the second day of free agency that i'm not going to go back to toronto and i'm going with the lakers the the lakers didn't clear up thirty two million dollars to spread it out amongst a bunch of the regime league do whatever they certainly didn't do that but they got in the hip pocket we just don't know when that's a deal either over you have disrespectful for real they were talking about the idea of of having a roster 'cause there's an argument to be made that if you've got a third max guy let's just assume it's not quite leonard but if it were one of these other guys that that roster you could you talk about roster spot number four is kyle kuzma roster spot number five is a guy they're gonna sign for about four point eight million dollars probably gr smith right and then roger body clock give it up jay or hey man and then rock mart six to fifteen that's ten roster spots minimum contract there'll be the most minimum contract the history of them here there's an argument to made if you go that way meant that t team doesn't have enough depth they're gonna really ride those three stars hard because they don't have enough that so let me ask you this though what why why do you not you but people keep this in cow coups ma as if he's not moving in the right direction type guy like he's everybody keeps saying we gotta get a third superstar third what if you wonder if that third who's already oh there and so that's point is if you have belief or confidence and kyle coups ma you're better off taking you might be better off i shouldn't say because of quiet rebelled legal requirements car but you might be better off taking that money thirty two million and going get you are real roster so that were not playing a bunch of minimum do i sit on the jump a fridge especially yesterday there's two types of minimum guys in this league one or young guys who haven't proven themselves yet to all do holding only been later this morning you have to be listening be said that play at exactly the same must have been watching media timeout working out what is the hey i mean what what is quite waiting for i wanna hear figure he he he he knows the money he knows the rosters for the most part now this on these various teams you know what it's gonna look like i mean maybe sit in a room and you hear jeanie buss have a a conversation but what what's he waiting for travis i'm glad you asked that question months ago right when quite hit that game seven win against philli hours on the radio and sirius xm and be and we interviewed steve fisher who gentle lady said coach his college coach san diego state and we said you know first of all what were the recruiting process like because quiet leonard with this great player how did you end up at san diego state he said we offered him before anyone else offered him when he wasn't that he's a good player but he wasn't a great plan then after we offered him he blew up and all these other pac ten schools can also came down usual late late but he said no but then the other part he said as quite a long time to make a decision like he said if it were up to acquire he may still not have committed the college if we wait we'd still be waiting on him now and so they said i said how'd y'all get to me said honestly we just started working the family we worked his mom we worked his mom and then we worked his uncle and they finally were the ones that that kind of squeeze them into hey man i think this is the right place for you so this isn't actually out of his character to be waiting so long debated say interesting being you said he worked the people close to him yeah that's the same thing out of you magical magic the bron clutch in all the rest of it's working in uncle dennis it's the morning show lewis doing is working out who he was fast carl louis though happy birthday to carl lewis about being fast ninety years old today class oh man i'm like i just don't understand you ain't got no friends some he's fifty eight they just say like oh you shouldn't be wearing unit or the white felt it was eighty four guy no no no no that the sixty four ninety four oh four fourteen no no mickey friend the revolution white jumpsuit it definitely gray strong way i saw a lot of makeup that's like a fool leotard type guard you fill it with a belt the belt a skinny white belt looks like a piece of string mentally roy from man didn't even dressed that way now i'm gonna i'm gonna get out the hell's wrong call louis got no france i'm telling you i'm eighties with a different time man i remember the eighties at the v no i was i was around but i wasn't wasn't in that scene has a sweep already down to like his naval oranges like nike that's why it is funny like why don't you just go shirtless what's the price you're in great shape say what you know there there's some why she went over symbolic that lady called all right okay it's not a good video video happy birthday the carl lewis fifty you're that is is brought to you by jaguar land rover newport beach off the seventy three towards the sea visit land rover newport beach dot com land rover above and beyond ross any that video i mean how how unusual is it that if the reporting is accurate that co why in his team requested the rob pelinka not be a part of the meeting and now they're considering the maybe he can be a part of the meeting but they want genie in magic fair but the general manager of the team was requested the stay away potentially you gotta take everything with a grain of salt right it could be a lotta times things are said and then they're misconstrued and then it comes out being that right but if we just take it surface level obviously that that is concerning right on the one hand you say well he's willing to meet meet right i guess is the way i would look at it if it's true i would say if i'm the lakers on my this is cool fine no problem if i rob pelinka i'm starting to sweat a little on my job right if how could you not because this guy instantly it's gonna be probably the best player on your team right especially if if we take lebron for his words they he'll take a step back for quiet so quiet won't be the guy the guy don't like you man that's that's that's not an easy place to be even if doing a good job what is this say though when like to me on some of the guys when you consider the fact that steve fisher was both of you guys his coach and you can't figure out how to make that work man then again if you just gotta be like please say social running a make it is different it's different 'cause it's not like duke is not like coach k where it's school and the same code for a long time so grant hill can request a meeting with like rj barrett or whatever and that that yeah right hereafter lincoln is not chris webber jailer oh no no no not only areas connectivity political opportunity or congress saying what i'm saying there's an opportunity for congress simply by going on now playing what what what if what if like i said before first of all human fish might not even get they he fisher price looking like why did i ever signed this kid he probably he probably looking at it that way and on top of that like i said before that may be the wrong thing to bring you you understand when you walk into a mean you bringing up me in coach fisher is a great guy and i don't you bringing up something that cohen may not even be interested in so the best thing for you to do is they only outside of those doors like the request was don't try to come in don't worry about you a job because if you walk in the mean you're walking around wider jeopardizing walking ryan and i just walking in a say hi the travis first hi the l z but you the main focus right you may take that the wrong way you might look at that and go well he's not interest or you may just be corny say some this way out of left field in turn everybody off guardless of why or how the fact that i mean it's you tell me i mean is there another general manager and mb they would potentially be told stay out of the room no not even know that that everybody that that goes back to a conversation we had before they hired a coach who's in charge we still haven't figured that out right magic can be part of their official meeting but the idea that magic is the way they're gonna land this guy and he don't even work there like that that tells you forget about why the power dynamic of the lakers is very unclear but he who's in control but you gotta look at it this way to it's unclear like you said but i everybody including magic if if you are player who do you trust most to give you the real danielle what's going down magic magic but so let me ask you this because you know magic right magic as said oh yeah who choir comes in and i'll do whatever it takes but also magic first date instead robyn backstabber right but that's my point so here's my question i'm uncle dennis yeah this is what i sit on the jump yesterday i'm uncle dennis i have and i am magic's talking about the lakers we have a serious conversation about hey man what's to do with what's that's that's what i'm saying is i won't give it to you i'm the one person gonna give it to you realize how how do you so both things you how do you say this is the right place for you in well that's because this is how you don't get the money you're gonna be the face of organizations do don't even worry about him he you control is just like a mean said a minute ago if i'm rob pelinka i'm worried about my job because collide leonard has been kicked to the number one spot and when you take to the number one spot you control your organization based on a play on your money in one person is gonna give you all of it is magic 'cause you mike sending them again rob pelinka might tell you going good chance of me super minimal you just gotta be careful you know what i'm saying elsie we had the the pitching quiet segment yesterday they posted on social and so a nick fidel pretenders it'd be see bomber bond winners but then it'd be playing opportunity beside me did a great job doing the high energy a see bomber thing i did i did a little a funny thing when messiah apples and stuff but man brian nailed the lakers are 'cause he says he sat down and he said i was reading a 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Swing Shift

Blank Check with Griffin & David

1:51:39 hr | 11 months ago

Swing Shift

"Griffin and you don't it with uh-huh each returning servicemen will get his job back when the war is one and you girls and women you'll be going home back to being housewives and mothers as you promised to do when you came to work with us your podcast will return to normal i quote to lead off the show yep so oh we haven't done a groundhog day into much of an impression i just felt kind of an impression to be done each returning voice there's something the thing i don't have it through page for this movie's limited oh the tagline for this film is terrible and i was breaking my brain to try remember was there are a number of quotes i like in the director's cut for this film but of course now those are listed on i'm d- interesting because number of quotes from the director scott you like yeah yeah yeah right i feel like the really ten lines that jumped out to me where i was like wow that's a good line and they were surprisingly they were excise excise and her these levels do yeah yeah it's fine okay we're gonna new studio small studio volume a little bit yeah you turned us all down i'm fussing with stuff guitar i mean classic buying check you do one thing to change are completely ordinary routine and we're all just like this is pretty crazy he's very different table or any different room kind of window again but it's really here the ventilation can really hear the ventilation leash that's all beyonce it is maybe this episode they'll serve as a case study the importance of podcast editing right much like swing shift is kind of an incredible case study in film editing yes because today we're talking about two cuts of the same movie we are first time since i'll do anything pretty much those are two different episodes that's true and i feel like other times we been like our just watching the directors cup and we're just watching theatrical yes i'm gonna pay a little we'll have some chat we'll have a little chat about you know different version different versions cameras got different versions there are very few movies where right where there's basically a different movie that exists differences this fundamental yes because i mean man rearranges stuff at stuff's track stuff but it doesn't feel as holy now twiddling right right well i mean with black black black cat that's the closest right sure blackouts the closest where he's like i made a major i didn't like it's not like there's like thirty minutes it's on the cutting floor but i mean a major sort of story chain right but it's still he's really just rearranging the pieces that's this is an example of a movie that was finished ashed yes then thirty minutes were shot yes in about thirty minutes the original fomer cut right because the cuts are very similar length and both about one hundred minutes this scenes that exist exist in both versions of the film are also cut differently yes yes execute steph yes not all but there's a lot that are noticeably right because i'm like black cat it's like aac shift here you know things like he'll be like i changed a couple little things right or like the aliens in terminator two director's cuts it's like those special editions or like i added scenes that i think those are more right it's character padding like you know things like that but here's like a fundamental difference is that in the director's cut you're like man dan this is a film of incredible fluids steady cam shots like long steady came shots in the theatrical cut no shot last longer than shopping it's one of the yeah it's a there's no character in the same scenes they just cut up those senate chaos i believe the scores also different everything's things different getting ahead of ourselves yeah okay because you know what this is way what is it going back with griffin david yes i do feel totally thrown off yeah i'm not trying to like listen to our following episode which is the first recorded in a new studio lousy shirt and we're also totally confused i it's weird rhythms rod it's fine we'll be fun hello okay griffin i'm david this is produced prevents it in between us between the boy solomon he's got the you know he's the tastes are solomon because it's like there's a divide you know he sort of the king on the throne in between us say ben sandwich yeah sure this but yeah sorry guys earn a smaller find mike i mean my headphones mike whatever it is there we go all right you got the juice in my turn it all up turn it up a little more guys this there's a careful process of it's tricky because this is a podcast about filmography directors massive success early on in their career gives her a blank checks to make whatever crazy passionate products want and sometimes those checks clear and sometimes they swing baby sure shift this base sometimes they definitely shift then this is an example of like shift he should have been cashing a check after melvin howard sure small check well isn't this the small check or is this defense took him away right they like repoed all his belongings with the track and then he just eh wrote himself another check the same year basically so i did a lot of reading so tonight in this morning and a thing i was reading an interview the guardian interviews when you read i don't know if it was that one but it seemed like it was transcribed from a print interview where the transcription was not perfect okay but it seemed to imply that he was shooting making sense the same time that he was shooting the re-shoots on s. i don't know about that no no that's why i was confused it's the interviewee read the one with the LA may story yes okay well that's the one i read i think it's the only time he's ever really talked talked about i think he'd be like i you know that movie was taken away from me and i'd i'd just hate talking shuts it down but he tells the story in that about shoot going long him feeling like he wasn't gonna wrap in time to make it to the show and ed harris faked a headache so that they would wrap early i there's i i remember that story right you're right and it seemed like he was saying i guess they came really close but he says later he says i moved back to new york and made stop making sense that's what we i think it was more just probably like they they were they were close together we know because this film comes out in nineteen eighty-four stopping he sends comes out in nineteen eighty-four yes you know so like yeah this is supposed to come out the year prior was supposed to be a big holiday holiday awards the movie and then it got pushed to may and came out and didn't make much money and you know kinda got dumped and then a year later in june i came out that is true thing birthday betty and only one cut their of the umbilical cord hey now little you know ooh i don't want to get him please oh yeah we should we should not get him let's pause that combo that's a whole other complicated give me a whole that can be a patriot episode next okay fine on a scale from one quick survey of the room how insane do you feel right now now because i feel like a ten you're clearly at a ten i met a six and say i actually got adjusted benz benz seems to be it's like started at nine but he's sort of like decelerate yeah working on it it's okay so melvin howard comes out nineteen eighty i should say it's my series on the film's uh-huh champion dan that's called stomaching podcast it's right and we really should we really should know better evidence than today it's almost like the universe is trying to tell us to stop making necessarily not we're gonna make them absolutely absolutely not napster -lutely not maybe napster you could have gotten the director's cut back in the day right i think about this is like a reality show what i'm saying like we're showing all the behind the scenes right with the level checks like that came earlier it is all out there you know we're not leaving on the cutting room floor survivor where every season there but there's a twist this season you have to do the thing upside down the boys and the girls are in different teams you know yes the episode where they throw a curveball at us and we completely crumble right exactly we show that we were not up to the task and we absolutely not kick us off okay so nice melvin howard melvin and howard cosell a deep modest box office performer an oscar winner who major categories yes and it kind of announces the emergence of a new major your voice in american cinema yeah sure right yeah goldie hawn as a deal at warner brothers she is at this point one of hollywood's most beloved unreliable stars has been a huge movie star for fifteen years has has won an oscar fifteen years earlier right she wanted to ask her right thirteen years cactus jackson who gets sixty nine yeah sure and has then just kind of an incredible run we are disoriented by everything thing going on around us she has an incredible run yeah and by the early eighties she has kind of honed in on what a goldie hawn movie as chur right a private benjamin becomes like the platonic ideal of a goldie hawn comedy yeah that's some looking at her her run in the late seventy yeah yeah so you've got like foul play with chevy chase which was a a pretty big hit she does seems like old times what chevy chase so it's like a good thing i'm going as you say got private benjamin in eighty which is a huge huge she gets a best actress nomination you got best friends the burt reynolds movie i think a couple of years before swing shift that's eighty yes which directed by norman jewison based on robert benton's relationship with jane curtain's sister who is a writer for SNL you just pulled that out of a hat that's pretty impressive i was doing goldie dealership last night and she as you say she's an oscar winner with private benjamin you have i feel like i don't know there's a whole other level of legitimacy with that movie that was one of the big performance of the year she got lead actress nominee gets it's i i lean brennan gets best supporting actress rights nomination i guess and it gets a screenplay nomination so nancy meyers is only screaming of course but that rare phenomenon in which biggest film of that year crazy that rare phenomenon in which a mainstream studio comedy breaks into the oscars feels like its own insane level of success like the bridesmaids thing where you're not just a big hit we're we're saying you're illegitimate movie because comedy comedy so rarely do well ignore especially back then even the more successful comedy is the more it seems to get ignored you know it's it's then viewed as a populist whatever so the fact that that movie makes that big of an impact i think makes goldie hawn kind of unstoppable at this point in time one hundred percents she yes as you say has fueled warner brothers big star this is all context for the fact that she essentially was sort of number one person in the movie and her producing partner right around swing shift i think i don't know if she's working with her at the time of benjamin's for happens right after that is this woman whose name i'm forgetting we're getting now in isa in thea jones perhaps okay i will the name in a second but i don't want to get my phone because i'm worried about changing my position in relation to the microphone because everything we're doing right now is very tenuous anthea silver thank you you she was costume designer she was to chinatown she did gotten oscar nomination for another film she got skirmish forgetting thank you you're really gonna have to work computer famous i always worked famous costume designer who also produced like you know half a dozen goldie hawn movies essentially right she becomes overboard and wildcats and jumping all around here but i think there is i have witnessed this a lot to things that can fuck up a movie star and by proxy the film's a movie stars making their vehicles okay one is if they team up with someone whose job was extensively to make them look okay capacity outside of that job what are you thinking of the peters barbara streisand CFCS's were then they suddenly have these her stylist and he yeah you have a right hand person whose job is just to say they're making you look bad right right you should be winning this movie essential right in in both a visual sense end in sort of a star power sense yes and in the same way when i say making them look at it can be a makeup artist and can be a personal assistant bright but people people whose jobs were to just help a movie star be the best movie started they could be then suddenly become producers on film usually spells trouble right the other thing that usually fox up a movie is when the two leads fall in love well you know this is a really weird scenario everything about the scenario okay like i in yeah this is this is a very unusual situation it's not that expensive movie it's not being made it it goes way over budget well because they've reshot it of course the cost it always puts a burden on fell short but it's really it's an unusual movie it's like goldie hawn is the unambiguous powerhouse jonathan demme is still a young director dr who basically has made like one legitimate movie after coming up with corman yeah she is with kurt russell who is still well no he's he's already big deal he is because he had done the right like all that stuff's come out his trunk carpenter stuff he's like deepen that sure i'm just double checking like the thing is a couple of years earlier but guess china's later escape from new york is already come right you know he's kirk russell context very quickly is a disney star will i was trying to our i was gonna argue like oh this is like him coming out of his disney boyish but now he's already come out of that i'd argue it's like this is a different chef for him which is he's disney star in the period of the live action disney films homes that now are being rediscovered thanks to the disney plus your thread which i think won the pulitzer prize literature was good i liked it it's a good threat but all those sorts of movies that were modest performance at the time that no one took seriously and he was the boyish he was he was the squeaky clean blue-eyed sorta did and then he does the elvis may serve carpenter direct redefines career and the carpenter goes you're my muse and makes him the sort of winking self knowing action hero for his sort of cemented tons of stuff right but this is kind of the the carpenter films are such a hard swing in the other direction from the disney that is a charming but but he's not in this movie he's supposed to be a jerk toy but anyway but yes so we've just laying out all the prime that's another problem is that then they fall in love and they went why doesn't this movie reflect the chemistry sorry we have in real life and why isn't curtis trimmings i find him i don't think it was just that though i also think it was the studio being holy shit we've got a genuine publicity situation situation where to movie stars have fallen in love too beautiful movie stars looking to make a child who's going to really get david revved up one day i love white russell you rules classic lake children where you're like we squished these two handsome people together and the third handsome person it looks like both of them he's such a funny version combination that took him on the weird thing we're like kurt russell is notoriously kind kind of what are you saying what is this how else horsely this kind of square guy sure sure okay with somewhat what square politics who is borderline jingoistic in his love of america does love america and goldie hawn become trips yeah yeah and there's such a weird couple in that sense aside for them both being incredibly pressure naturally charismatic beautiful he's talked about it right he's been like oh she wanted nothing to do with me like we'd known each other because we'd worked each other disney films sixties shoes just like he has some cute sort of me cuties story about how like at the beginning of the movie she was like not interested and by the end they were in la riley pass and then why it russell is the perfect combination of the two of them jock it's truck god him and everybody wants some very yes he is david was it's like holding onto his eyebrows like he was trying to rip them off his head it looked like twitter photo yes the i'm just trying to set up all the different fornell laments that come into play against demi obviously as you say goldie is working against him and so there's a really good sight and sound piece yeah i i think that was published after demi died called swing shift the unmaking of a masterpiece which is this guy has seemingly watched both cuts forty times y- ah yes but i will say i know the first sight and sound pieces from a long time ago because demi references you're right it was just a unpopular with republicans because of a very detailed sight and sound piece that's essentially like really going through all all the differences but it's also just like swing shift is not very good movie and swing shift the demi cut is like one of the great american films of its deck ss argument he's it's like this is a curio now he's basically like a masterpiece was lost and we and it was like it was heartbreaking thing who wrote that article just because i want to give them credit because i'm going to be leapfrogging at the stuff that they said along with stephen berg feinberg the guardian article cool and then there's also a BFI entry on the film that has a weird detail but here's the stuff i pieced together from all three okay writer of this film the original writer on the film sure nancy depp who wrote the original draft coming home which was then rewritten she somewhat disowned she she also slapshot she did a bunch of on credited she's a writer she had a bunch of story credits no big deal in the seventies right she writes swing shift has an original screenplay i think somewhat as a corrective to what she felt how they add sentimentalize coming right people point out it has a very similar narrative spine to coming home now originally by all accounts her script was about lucky lucky and the christine lahti character who had different name at the time sure and the goldie hawn character was very much a supporting character it was not a love triangle as much much as it was a film about the two of them it kicks around for years it almost gets made at some point the late seventies with a combination of people i'm forgetting leading and then in the early eighties goldie hawn fines and she likes it and she says this is is what i'd like to do and she reached out to demi 'cause she likes melvin hauer yeah and he just won an actress and oscar and yeah he's a young exciting director they hire tire run nygaard is that his name yes who later oh you mean run nicewander yes sir who later goes onto right philadelphia for demi to rewrite the script because the more she worked on with demi she realized she didn't wanna play the christine lahti part because a kind of conflicted with her image goldie hawn sing was being the cutesy ball of light right in the world and the entire crux of christine lahti is character is her fighting in to retain agency in a world of use her as a tramp and that was a little too hard edged and a little too morally dubious for goldie hawn long term so they rewrite the script and make this supporting character now the lead of the film and becomes more coming home ish than we got nice he's wanders is the script that's what everyone says everyone says that when i mean was shooting off of that script that was his draft the weird thing is that the film ends up with one solo screenwriting credit which is a person who doesn't exist right which is weird it's very it's a student alan smoothie but it's not that they shoot this fell well you know i think audiences are a little confused mostly probably because they're like where's the goldie hawn comedy here where's is the fish out of water where's the fee changes people with her effervescence you know and one brother shakes out and goldie hawn of all free and they're looking at the russell of it all and they're going why isn't this having more of like hepburn and tracy energy right right right right so they bring in a bunch of screenwriters to try to rewrite the movie to make it more of like an oil and vinegar screwball rom com and one of the first people they bring in les can i read this i've got okay so this is jonathan demme talking about how this movie was essentially the i don't even know if they had attest greeting there was a screen but everyone should read this guard again interview which is that if you can find it yeah but you know because essentially the executives definitely tested the movie and they were like no thank you like the they were sending sort of all the province you're talking like this is goldie hawn should be you know the the the lovable ditz break you know like going to be an overboard in a couple years like that's the goldie hawn everyone's asking for overboard is what i think they wanted out of this man and woman and god they can't get along until they do so i says that some other high priced hollywood writer who won't mention shen comes in and write some seen town apparently was i believe that too is rod andrews yeah but then he also says that was the second person the first i personally went to his elaine may obvious first choice in this time right she'll write us screwball comedy of course elaine may comes into see the movie she has lunch with goldie and goldies partner whoever answers live threw me off thanks for my find belittle just just say it because it just it just fred makes me think that okay so a lamey comes at she watches the movie and the original form just edit out come on guys it's okay right it's just it's such a fucking shitty situation it's fine come if anything will cut in a testimonial everyone back to zero all right thank you elaine comes in she watches the movie she meets with goldie walks in i think sees jonathan defendants as you jonathan what are wonderful movie this is fabulous are you guys out of your mind so she sees the movie and it's basically like they this is a great very movie like you don't need me you already have a product right here done release it and they start talking to her like they want more of a tracy and hepburn kind of things what demis right which is what what you're talking about and she says well those that sounds great for some movie right but they go completely against the ecology of movies that now exists and you'll never pull it off and demi emme remarks like i i love that phrase the ecology of but it's so spot on because you watch the two cuts and so much of it is like i i've been thinking a lot about when when when bree's was on the show spirit away episode he said that he feels like most movies especially most good movies are puzzles or dreams right it's resonated to great it's a great thought yes and watching this i had this thought that most great directors or at least interesting directors sure are either anthropologist engineers i'm kind of on something you keep going keep going because there's like the fincher coen brothers hitchcock precision they're making a machine for you i'm gonna have everything perfectly worked out and i hire people professionals in the united the g when they see your shot in the head magic and you just have to execute that and the work with people but the work with people execute the very specific thing they had their mind and there are people like demme who just kind kind of an end lee is another example of this who want to like sit down and feel the room and let actors define their roles and bringing collaborators can bring mm-hmm ideas that he never even would have had on his own and just sit and wait and study and experiments and wait for the results you know and that's like i think that's why this was so traumatic for him guests because it really seems like it was a very traumatic experience for him because it's one thing so many of these situations but with some directors cut recently i feel like this was just coming up the center i mean there's that a- sure that's not even the worst example where it's like midsummer directors cup examples listen we're talking about man the justice league league is a good example midsummer the directors is like basically like here's the longer he's just like i have more and i like it i understand that movies have to be a certain aso like you know but if you're interested that's more the sort of more like the man or cameron cotton club that's an interesting that's interesting that's moral this yes but now the justice league thing is like that's a great example of like the movie is probably a mess no matter what shirt that's a film where there was a sort of unsalvageable energy and in trying to salvage it the studios probably just making it more unsalvageable right because it's you know you've just got this mess on your hands right this is the thing where he made a movie it was good yes people watch it and we're like i don't like this movie it's bad and he was like i think it's good and they were like no no right they'll do anything anything example is you watch the theatrical have all this other is where it's like those are the two messes versions kind of the director's cut must make sense of this yeah exactly no no actual salvage it's actually worse right that's what's so crazy right that's what's so bizarre about this and let's let's say here is a thought lot experiment had us watch these in different order that's right that's right this is griffin's idea was it was fun idea thank you so i watch the director's cut first and then watched the goldie hawn and you did the opposite the director's cut it has never been commercially released through is like an open matte VHS transferred research that has been digitized and certainly has diminished it is a little hard to make out here for one hundred percent it's not in good shape and bedsheets watchable it is washable washable i would say maybe more watchable than whatever the fucking i'll do anything cut i watched was but you know allows similar lines of course i'll do anything also was a musical so really i would have benefited from you being able to like you know here things clearly and all that you wanna hear belting it out and perfect five point one they'll be digital's around but but still nonetheless there is a cut it is this yes it's this sort of VHS thing right and you watch that yes it's been going around for years demi seems to think or seem to think when he rarely spoke of this film that it would be impossible it's all gone now there are many films was in our lifetime that were thought to be gone in the same kind of way the thought is that warner brothers literally throughout that footage yes that's insane saint saint they trashed his boat like the tapes do exist i mean he's you know the tapes exist often he's thinking in a more pre-digital sense like you can put something online lasts forever yes i mean i pray that someday someone fucking finds this actually like restore the movie because there was it's not like like eight only ever existed on like an avid his claim is is no for shirt right so it would have to be some old executive is like oh actually i i did be one of those weird like actually i had a whole kept it but that guardian interviews from like two thousand and two i don't know it's early it's him either promoting i think truth about charlie or mentoring candidate beloved so it's a long time christ it's ninety eight yeah so i mean shortly after that not shortly after that but in the sixty seven years after that warner brothers does a kick of doing a lot of restorations were they take like the big red one and they restore the bruce willis from the exorcist like they start doing a lot better and people kept on thinking like is swing shift gonna be 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inviting you and you have not responded to digital thanksgiving yet but as it is right right now you can really only watch like a bootleg director's cut and nonetheless so so you watch that i i watched that i saw i was watching a process of subtraction ah watching the proper film and seeing removed and you're washing the addition of the elements of the damn thing on itunes yeah cute it up washer with my partner we'd watch together we were like humble brick back baby and we were just i think my experience with the movie living on let me speak about it i gotta be credits so i watched this movie i am very fascinated by period in american life it is so crazy to think about basically that like most american men from the age of like twenty to thirty five vanished from the country is such a bizarre thing the thing about recently rewatching league of their own which is like a light and wonderful movie but it's also about the same thing where it's yeah imagine just like everyone is old like you know like you go to like the dance hall and it's a bunch of tight right like that weird sort of surreal the press of why the last man and yet exactly exactly and then some beyond that obviously you know you have all these like very real things that women had to deal with women who are suddenly like in this household they had to run all by themselves awesome they had to earn money and all this shit so this is a i love this period i love this concept yes and so the first forty five minutes of the movie were watching i'm like this is good this is a good movie like i love CMS and like christine lahti is fucking killing it goldie i am kind of like what what she doesn't know what she doesn't have a handle on this because she's not playing sort of classic goldie character right she seems a little lost she's not great with the melancholy stuff she's trying to be funny but like there's not really a lot of funny stuff that's what you're thinking watching the theatric theatrical kurt shows up and i'm like i wanna fuck this guy so keep yelling about how i wanna fucking fucking sponsor efficiency it is and then i would say like halfway through the movie we really both started every ten minutes like looking at each other and being like what what does this about with where's this going on ravel's and there's the pivotal thing that ed harris comes home we'll talk about you know there's a scene where ed harris comes off on shore lever ever wherever he just sees them together the three of them and then we sort of cut ahead in like he just knows right like there's additional and he just kind of figures it out and china was like so he just figured it out yeah i guess he just figured it out right he just kinda got the vibe but kind of like a little unfulfilled by that all movie skills like that where there's a lot of mental leafs that you can make because yes a movie in the last half of the movie that's what's happening like there's this scene team where people are we're holly hunter is a new guy and i'm like when did she get the new guy previously her only big thing was crying when she learns husband designed so you're just like i think that was the guy who delivered the news was different directors has a lot of scenes that sort of sprinkle in more context and it's just a movie that makes more sense it was assembled that way and so we watch it by the end i'm just like win the fuck is this thing over and it's a long movie yeah and i'm really frustrated much minutes there one hundred minutes each right i think the director's cuts one hundred one it's literally like that and we turn enough we were just like we were both like a little frustrating and that obviously i'm saying to her like there's actually the sky she doesn't give a shit but like says she's leaving you know but it is i can imagine if you're walking were you have to watch this movie again with more scenes i q it it's just going to be an expanded for so cute the directors and the next day i wanna give myself a break i watched some toback like a lunatic that is lunatic take your level that's cute well i'm learning and the first half of the director's cut is so similar to the actual movie not ah face broadly i was almost like this this has been over hyped for me because i'm noticing little editing changes and still like get out of here masterpiece or get out of here citing sound guy who's like you won't believe it it's one of the great american movies and then suddenly everything it changes it starts to make sense and i recommend you should go back and watch them both again the other way linking i'm so fascinated by these two films i could not believe how good the movie was on rewatching instructors basically just like there's all kinds of changes changes that we can try and talk about but each just sort of it feels like jonathan demme movie i guess is the best way to describe it it feels empathetic it feels like a slice of life about a bunch should people it feels like it's more about this workplace and this relationship between hazel and k you know kurt russell is very much a supporting a character like all them in the movie all the men in the movie are very much supporting characters who are sort of in and out there disruptive their emotional but they're not like you know we don't care about them and i can't believe it i could not believe i texted you immediate yeah like stunned so the other i sort of legend about the re-cut is that goldie hawn and felt insecure is a legend confirmed which confirmed legend but it worth acknowledging that this had always been a whisper because even at the time of this film's making it was being written up a lot as this year long battle between goldie oldie hawn and this up and coming director that she apparently felt that christine lahti was outshining her in the movie which christine lahti auty is in that position where it's just like here's an actor who has the goods and is finally being given their first big role and they're just ready for it's is one of those like lightning in a bottle things where it's like this is just someone who is right there is so prepared for this moment and shows up and makes the most of it it is not an incredibly incredibly showy performance incredible performance but it's an incredibly good right it's really incredible what is one of those classic right you're just like who is this and how do i get more of them like right you know like totally add emerging carey mulligan in an education were just like okay you're a new person now great you're here good welcome so tall making movies he's so tall there's incredible shot in the director's cut i think where her laudi goldie hawn and holly the hunter are all standing together and lodhi is like five foot eleven yes and goldie hawn is like oh this is like five six she's like regular right and yeah right and it is like small medium one point someone tried to ribbit holly hunter into a play off she was a little ribbon on yeah now that ain't a bit s holly hunter was i gonna say anything is fascinating because lottie gets the best supporting actress nation for this movie anyway even though this movie came out in may was a flop and is surrounded by death she still so good that she gets enough totally and in a weird way if one of the goals had been to minimize christine lahti by centering goldie hawn more the movie becomes so jumbled the christine lahti he comes out of the warren brothers cut as one of the only co curent moments yes it's true so she rises to the top it's one reason i don't actually buy that it was like sort of an actor wore thing i think it's more just loudini is going to suffer because goldie is like fish should be rom com this should be a love triangle this should be me curt and then like ed harris or who have you know the third spoke like we got put in more kurt we got to put in more kurt sure why and i and then so you know the hazel relationship just kind of diminishes moments in the movie in the rain the goldie cut where like sheet lodhi audie and goldies relationship is really important and you're like even care about each other like i get this like the ecology common is fascinating because there are things things watching these two cuts back to back that feel like the coolish effect where you're watching the exact same scene you're talking about the kaminsky method from sir john salaam sorry it feels like the kaminsky method america's favorite comedy series right the coolest trevor fact you know what i'm talking about no you don't i don't know about you know when i explain what this is but it was that task done by like the russians but but like the study in sort of the area where the close up of like the most famous actress of time in russia and just said with with a blank expression mortgage just gonna fill me for two minutes it's an actor i believe i believe it's a lady and my wrong about this i think you're a man i think it's man this man where my glasses and computers on the other side of this grant excuse me while i put my spectacles on okay it is i'm sorry i'll eat a turn the point is it's a man sitting with the totally blank neutral expression and they keep on cutting to other things within his sight line line a little girl in a casket a bowl of soup third one here is a pretty lady on fainting couch and the idea is this that if you cut between these things the audience projects onto that face right how they think he would respond to those things the sadness of a child being the hunger in a bowl of soup the lust in looking at a woman right a good movie but he's doing this movie slaps yes yes yes yes and there's this weird thing where like there are scenes in this that i watched in the director's cut and i go this is an incredible edible performance from goldie hawn in this scene and then the exact same scene happens in the warner brothers cut on fucked with and the performance feels totally flat and is entirely about what happened before and after and not just in terms of oh story details are missing but even as we would say the ecology of the movie being different it really is that it's like it's like they it's you're in australia and you you brought a frog and now all the fries are multiplying and they're eating the you know bamboo or whatever it is the happen right it's like they brought him these extra kurt russell scenes everyone's like well everyone likes kurt russell he's sexy what how bad could this be that suddenly it's like oh my god-like at all the levels are off back extra kurt russell scenes it's also like the scores different yes we'll write the score stories very annoying really cut really annoying i wanna just one of those classic like i get it now maybe it didn't have to raise when it's a comedy the scores too chipper wants a romance the score is like two swooning when there's tension it becomes a fucking like z. grade bernard hermann score yeah yeah right right there's the thing where there's the motor that's gonna fall on the woman and in the regular version there's no score for instance the tension a goldie noticing it and in the weren't brothers cut they literally play like shitty vertigo esque music but also they attack fujimoto hooge omotoso regular collaborator of demi gets fired for the re shoots because they thought he was making goldie looked too old sure sure so there's like the thirty minutes of scenes added and sometimes even the little pieces and saying you can tell the difference because she is so much more brightly in gaselee lit the scenes are more flat but the other thing is in the demi version fujimoto it's so much steady cam which is an there's also these like these these wipe montages white center caged no i know we're the weird like triangle white things but but it is like it's very fluid fluid movie moved me clue very fluid movie of camera movements guiding you through a larger space and being able to observe the behavior of all these different people and in the warner brothers cut even in the first half the movie where there is not a lot changed on a story level those are cut down and it feels like goldie hawn doesn't want this much of the movie where she is not at the center of the frame well your ah look you're right i don't know i'd love someone has she's never talked about it right now i feel she talked about the time and she said look this isn't an ego thing she was very much like i was trying to rescue movie she was like the film he screamed was a mess i was trying to save it and whatever i could i didn't succeed but no one could have fixed this thing she was sort of doing the one i'm talking about the the the the justice look the best i could we had two jewish day right which is not what happened is demi is said he's basically like i presented them with complete movie that was good and they made me shoot more scenes nst that were bad and it was worse or they cut them you know he contractually had to shoot them yes loosest acids director of the film they made him fire fire his screenwriter he knew that new letters we're gonna come on yet he says i had to cooperate them i had to shoot them because of the contract talked about in those trotted protect the movie in a lot of emme being but he talked about it's like it was such a terrible thing to do and it's not just about the ego of look at my vision it's about they were racing the work that everyone entrusted me with actors give me performance giving me images in people are writing a score from me and i'm telling them that i'm going to protect it and keep it intact and all these things are getting fucked with were replaced entirely i just remember finding myself sitting in the bathtub at six thirty in the morning just crying is one thing he's saying when we're talking about all the things you're talking about and he said yeah they like hired someone to write the reshoot scenes it was a writer he does not name a who eventually eventually got hired who did it because he was trying to get warner brothers to greenlight another script he had written so he thought they would put him in good graces and he delivered the pages and they thought they they were bad so then they had someone else rewrite them and they shot him over four days and he was there and he was like look i have not my ep some other guy they will occur who he likes likes likes yeah mostly hired to try to make all the actors look younger and prettier yes yes because the original version had too much grit okay and the actors gold is primarily concerned with coming off like classic goldie so he was like i would just sit there and i would go to the cinematographer and say so what do you want to do you and they show me when they were done and i would go okay good goldie what do you want to do and just tell me and i would go okay and i was just sitting there in babysitting yeah yeah it just sounds like this fucking miserable experience they look at it the new stuff doesn't work like i will happily take two of these he's minutes there are two of the thirty minutes we shot that i think i could use and they went fuck you and at that point he was essentially off the move and it was out of his they trashed the score at that point right he's like i'm gonna go make stop making sense by which you realize the movie that saved him very much so and also as a movie where he's he's like can we celebrate pure creativity right and can i do it in a way that's full collaboration with david byrne but with everyone on stage and really highlight the work of everyone on stage and they says from eighty four on i made a role that i wasn't gonna make a movie that wasn't fun i wasn't gonna work with people that i don't like a let me find it something wild fields at such a celebration of like i'm gonna have fucking fun i would continue hope to continue making movies but only people like so that's my a new rule since nineteen eighty-four i wonder if he yeah i feel i mean he's never had a legendarily bad experience making a movie obviously like other situation like this the two interviews are done before truth about charlie so who knows how he felt about that film i don't i think he felt bad about that movie i think america felt bad but i don't think he was like this is a mass i'm sorry well sure i think he made the movie wanted to make i think i think after this he's basically there's i can't actually say on my but there's one movie i heard about that he was not he did not love making interests i'll tell you okay i shouldn't debut i'll tell you here's what for me the demi cut of the movie is about it takes a little while to crystallized but when you realize it's sort of saying and what its interested in it feels very cogent and co he's right this weird fucking period american history said where like suddenly eighty percent of our males disappeared and society is now like actual children old men people who are sick people who are like four f and probably had like a chip on their shoulder about it you know they they're men who feel somewhat automatically under percent people with money and status able to sort of circumvent the system after world war two because not wished cowardice like vietnam where it was a little more like look small group and they are mostly the proud cowards proud to be howard right and then you have sort of like fucking political radicals like you know i mean kurt russell jokes that he's a communist and that's why he's not in the war he says he's a japanese spy yes but no but in the in the watch mccall version a longer run he makes a bunch of clearly in that way of like he doesn't really wanna talk about it so he has like right bunch of funny lines totally right but it's mostly yes men who feel emasculated by the fact that they're not physically fit enough join the war and old man yeah and so in this weird period women were asked to step up and join the workforce and replace their husbands and their jobs especially you know building planes in such which is why rosie the riveter became like such a fucking a conic image but it was this weird contradictory thing of the government saying women you need to join the workforce our country needs you but the second day showed up to work all the men went suck you you don't belong here sure don't think we the except the oh sure that's i love all that's a level charles napier is is sort of in this movie love the the hostile right and goldie hawn her your husband ed harris or two fairly boring waspy conservative people churn they live in a little cul de sac if a quiet life she doesn't seem to have that much of a personality because it feels like she's never had the chance to figure out who she was percents because she told so many women for generation that's long enough about about that you don't need to have an inner life as there's this person this her neighbor who's always walking by and these fabulous outfits and harris is always like that tramp at fucking interesting like isn't she a singer and he's like singer my foot yeah things the tramp blues they both end up at the same factor eight us working in the streamline work in the swing shift and they serve slowly reluctantly become friends although goldie makes the first overture because she doesn't understand the idea that this woman could be hurt because she doesn't think about someone having that much self respect for hundred percent she just tries to do this little italy hey we're in the neighbors and she's like do you think i mute do you think deaf dumb and blind you call me a tramp every single day of my life but but these shifts of the movie is i mean the the titular swing shift is not just the hours they are working for the twelve shift parking fullerton twin i had a job working shift really overnight and fedex loaded trucks will you worked loading trucks at fed ex how was the last three months it sounds like it'd be really tough it was the worst so the problem was i would party before i went to work would absolutely ridiculously party up until four three three AM and it was show up and i never really worked the opposite you worked for AM to noon thought they were doing they're working for PM to midnight kind of all this stuff working beat nightshift i believe they call that the graveyard the graveyard exactly yeah okay yeah so it was a graveyard man and i got fired because they were sleeping in a truck and the boxes were just piling up on the conveyor your belt i will say unfortunately i think a good because asleep yes is there also was they're just like a culture like i feel like the guys worked at job or just like salty dogs they're salt boys and like it's a lot of hot chatter yes smoke spoke of blondes monster cool stuff speak on that on that sure touch master i am indeed who are your blunts does mass master philly white owl optima oh gotcha actually pretty surprised how many many blunt brands i know go back to the mood swing shift swing is this is is it in the absence of a husband and society were now suddenly they are more involved goldie hawn search to figure out who she is as a person and they are a community in a way that like they haven't really been before right christine lahti sort of swings her over to a different way of living where she actually experiments armaments with who she could be for the first time yes and kurt russell is a part of that you know he's charming is very much like this is a movie about a girl who works a job makes a couple friends but a job has an affair with the hottest guy yeah yeah and whereas the yeah the movie director's cut is much more right he is he's very peripheral because i think she was trying to make it like wildcats like wouldn't it be funny if goldie lijon ran a football team like place goldie shouldn't be you know sure sure yeah and there is this little bit of triumphant terms of her becoming like the lead men but it's not a fish out of water comedy not at all and what works so very collective her performance which i think is incredibly good it's it's it's better than the democrats it's incredibly good if i do i was watching it and i was like this is so interesting i've never seen anything like this might be a symptom of our flip that were so against her the performance in the i think so because in the theatrical cut it's a nightmare i it makes zero sense is a character and it feels very forced what i found interesting the democrat was she's playing playing someone kind of devoid of the natural light and charisma that goldie hawn has and there's the senior kurt russell asked her about herself and she starts talking about jack her husband and their life i didn't ask about jack i asked about you and she goes well i'm not interesting i'm having anything going on and she's a person who her entire life is defined signed by the relationship she has with her husband and in the absence of her husband she doesn't know who she is hers been boring to he's fine he's fine he's funny it's 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forgot which one i was saying cancel the episode demi cut ends with her and lodhi on the beach and it's a beautiful beautiful final shot it is what are you freaking out about i'm not freaking out i fucked up and then i completed your thought because you were clearly the middle so we because that was how i mean the them hugging kissing the dog walks in she's like i'm sorry and then the last night is we really showed them as is it is very much like me finishing college essay where my conclusion it's contrast okay so in the demi cut christine scene laudi has a weird on again off again relationship with fred ward playing cartoon biscuits yeah of course right we stand alleged cool name poll guys exactly it's actually not a cool cool guy but he's like a dummy with a temper who runs a nightclub yes right and wants to be a big classic like fred ward prefer cast yes excellent work in the demi cut he heads her yeah he slaps her she slaps him back he slaps her again or whatever maybe she slaps him he saw the they have a little sort of exchange of blows there's a little bit heroin oh it's no good good and it makes you realize she should be away from the sky sheets to figure out what the fuck she's doing with her life which is probably one of the only reasons she's even opened herself up eventually elite to goldie in the first place is because she realizes she needs to shift that was the main club she's to perform at she can't perform their fight is over him being like now that there's a war on can make so much money from this club i run and thinking that the goldie hud removes the hits and just makes them like oh he's sleeping with other women he kind china knocks her down off of a bike shirk comes later but here you know what i'm going to queue up the fucking cut right now when our check but there is i don't require much this morning i don't you believe that other than that you see characters there's like a moment of silence violence and it feels like the weren't brothers cut kind of sands him down a little bit fit because there's something to the fact that when he likes shows up again at the ball and he's in uniform and he's about to ship out the next day and and his friends are calling him by a different name in he actually seems like apologetic like you've tried to remake himself right the you really don't know whether or not got to trust this guy right in the brothers caught it's sort of arguing like he's kids yeah he kind of just comes back is like i fixed myself up please forgive forgive me the end but the thing i find kind of bitter sweet and it feels like in terms of the ecology not being fucked up is coherent in the demi version is it feels it's kind of sad that goldie stays with jack sure and that lodhi ends up married to biscuits yeah because both of them feel like men who are limiting all of what we're talking about out yeah the slasher gone right they have a fight at the table they have the fight at the bar and then it cuts straight to golden the theater looking like looking at a newsreel real right it's so stupid they both end up in these relationships that you feel kinda shitty about it feels like a depressing ending jer all the women are in the kitchen showing off their new model dishwashers and everything and then half right after the wedding laudi goldie hawn escape and go to the beach and sit in the beach each and drink beers together yes and the whole point is this is a wrong combat the two of them it's a love story about friendship and his swim that never had friends before and how their lives were appended ended but the post war era america was not like yeah turns out we love women's liberation and women's should have jobs and and you know we're just gonna totally up in the social active resentment of like the husband's coming home and being like i can't believe you've been working well it'd be beyond that it's just the fifties is there such a clear reactionary like you know it's beyond just like back to normal bags now it's more like we we must reassert it's like yes the the family unit is important is america we are the beacon of civilization and like who would have known those ideals to this day very day are still very much a problem on our society everything's terrible everyone's the work but almost like a thing now for for blankets it's like for like bingo never like anytime griffin reference that everything is bad the world's worst there is this weird weird sort of bittersweet ending which is like they're still trapped by society they're still going to be trapped in these shitty relationships in many ways but the thing they get to carry with them going forward is they they are relationship that these two women have each other which they didn't have before you both yes yes yes yes but there's also and that's very poignant in the director's cut demis cut there is this seems with ed harris after he returns there's the scene where they walk on their together yes and they have more of a genuine reckoning about how they've changed and she says there's another guy i was all of this has gone from the from the goldie cut so why sort of edvin suddenly flips and realizes everything just always it just feels a little quick and a little italy's in the dummy version car pulls up ed harris gets out he knocks on the door she doesn't respond immediately starts to seem pissed off right research being on the door more and more aggressively he super super suspicious he walks up into the other intimates home and goldie hawn kurt russell come out of the back like dancing together that shot is in both cuts area of them all dancing together right in in the warner brothers version he walks up to the door holding roses like a big dope and he's not there he's like okay well onto the next door trick next door turns off is like totally oblivious right and then when he sees them they weirdly throw in like one extra the shot where he throws a glance back to kurt russell and tries to figure out what's going on but then they all said that scene where like he's going through her clothes and she's got the lead man lead mansa interesting i'm the lead man he's like okay where my right and because it's like a here i've got all these airplane parts here somewhere under why does she fucking looking airplane airplane bars you're clearly like someone rewriting within three hours to grow right airplane parts in the clock you you don't see any airplay on anyway it doesn't matter like they flip every balance of terms of when he suspicious when he's oblivious to versions right so then he comes over and goldie hawn as as quickly as possible trying to fix everything in the house to make it look like she hasn't been having fun on her own it's less even the evidence of a man and more just like the evidence evidence of a life being live yes and that is what they talk about on the beach and things like that right and what's going on and then when they're on the beach and they're talking about stuff she makes a bunch of comments key calls christine lahti they get trampled bunch of times she's like you can't call her that you know allowed and says she's like brainwash you changed your different now she's gotten to you somehow and she's like i am different and that's when she turns her back on him and says there's another man but in the he was never gonna suspect he is so easily trust as they sort of present him is a guy like that's their trick yes and to be clear in the studio cut she does have an affair she has sexy sex with mr kurt cries like when they're having sex she cries and it seemingly because of the intimacy sure there's a scene where he is behind and he he's grabbing her boobs and he's very you can tell mixed up about it all that's in the director's cut only there's nudity the and mixed up more about like she's uncomfortable with her own sense of sexual morality thing is much there is nudity in director's cut both in goldie hawn sleeping with kurt russell so and christine lahti superior cut out of russell's tush tush it's a little more of a sort of sworded shot it's like having them under the covers it's russell awesome is faced down but up totally covers she's got the covers i pledge you follow it you know it's a little more natural in the in the demi cut than the director so that's a big thing is like they're drunk they go out together they make this clear thing that he's been hitting on it for months and months and months and months time is an interesting thing in both like this is five five ish years writing covered only sort of acknowledge it sometimes they in there's just says you've been asking me out every day for the last three suffolk the warner brothers cut i think she says five months literally just dubbed over like they wanna make her seem a little more virtuous great they're so worried about like goldie fans ends turning on her for having an affair but that's the whole point of the movie is the murkiness of it that she feels very guilty about it's not her being like fun fancy free but right right to be clear when it was released kramer is the directors cut probably would have been certainly would have been in our thought yes yeah her guard comes down tom get intimate that night he gives her the ride home it's raining she starts crying she wakes the next morning endlich reaches for him and looks over and then recognizes that it's not her husband's bought and it's beautiful moment where it's like schieffer's second thing she is woken up in her life from a year ago and realizes this is a different man has a complete essential panic okay but in the studio kerr puts out a bathrobe but makes her i mean to be fair it's pretty sexy and her in the bathroom we have some like i'm a man and you're a woman fights yeah yeah remember that all of that is not in it's so weird the nightgown or the bathrobe and he's like i'd rather be drowned i read me wet and his scene and then you cut the him in the bathroom with the apron making the cheese omelette and it's weird because it makes it seem like the affair is more of a conscious deliberate decision on her part but then she stands up for her own because they still have these seems that are from the other cut of he's like more conflicted and i'm married this is wrong and i'm not sure what to do there's there's the scene where they're giving this sort of tribute to holly hunter who so goodness and has so many derived w and they sneak away to make out it's this whereas holly hunter in her career at this this this year i mean simply saint foist and blood simple and yeah this is this is her second movie yeah she's in the burning yeah i think a small wrong but yes so she's nobody nobody nobody eighty-seven which is pretty much her next movie guess is the raising arizona broadcast news critic right i should go home watch broadcast news right now i probably will stay here do it yeah let's just do this is such a good round it's such great energy it's hard to even remember all the differences of how we we have covered a lot of people say is so then when jack comes home kurt kurt russell is very hurt they have a number conversation the demi version where he's like why are you acting weird and she's like i'm married and he's like so and she's going to live your own life married worried what what do you not understand this matters to me i care about this and he both sort of starts to back off a little bit and gets very personally hurt by right right is sort of wounded ego of not being the number one guy so then there's the scene that is so well acted where he kind of very knowingly asks christine lahti if she wants to come see him play in the club that night and it's one of those scenes where like him saying that is pretty much him saying do do you wanna fuck right like you're alone now and i'm alone now do you wanna fuck and they both kind of go like let's go to your show tonight you go through the motions and they sleep together and she wakes up the next morning and has been holding fingers what do you have to say we're going to skip over ver- kurt russell playing trumpet to play the trumpet this movie and his trumpet teacher i looked up because china was instantly can play the trumpet yeah let's now it doesn't seem like he's really know he's playing the trumpet came out because this was i found a very long a long article that was by like some trump guy who's like worst fake trumpeting in movies like here we fuck this fucked lots of you could tell there it was doing i was definitely watching him on the vowels into this movie so there's not that big a deal so buried in in this article was him being like now kerr swing shaped is actually doing it and i found an interview with his trumpet teacher who said he was really good and worked on for three months so impressed oppressed because men he not only is he very hot and getting him on some hot brass ankarlo oh boy anyway as you say yes where he gets you know which is in both cuts but there's something to in in the warner brothers cut it just cuts at one point and they're waking up in bed the next morning i guess and the jammie him yesi her come in yet and he's playing like kinda sad jazz yeah and then it's just like this is much longer in the lead of them having like him inviting her goes out together working working torn about being in love i mean remember he has that whole monologue where he's introducing the song and then how does yes our goldie find out in the demi car because in the war cut there's a weird thing where she takes a taxi to i don't remember lucky trailer yeah yemen sees them gets back in the cab percents i don't remember i don't know so fucking sloppy but then there's the scene that is largely the same in both versions but one version it means something in the other version seems completely at nowhere where we'll goldie lottie comes over to goalies house and she makes her tea and they're like sort of not talking about it yeah and laudi apologizes and is like what are we gonna do one thing it'll never happen again france three investors can be france and then they go to the club hub and she'd like totally collapsed as freaks out and joanna when when she says yes she was like so at that point you're so baffled by move is going to be like a three three sound like he's going to be a plural relationship and i was like no i think she's in denial but like it doesn't matter at that point that's when kurt russell's like i'm going to go right sense when you're watching the demi version this woman is so ill equipped to deal with this that she optimistically thinks that she can just ignore it and move on it's a movie about people leaving your lives which which is where is the the studio cut is more about not goldie and kurtz the crazy relationship and then kurt leaves the movie and the movie just sort of keeps going for a while and you're like jesus and emmys all point was like the movie was about him being like a cat and a piece of shit he's kind of manipulating both of demi says he's supposed to be a jerk it's about women learning economy and like like falling in love with each other and forming important relationship and it was turned into a movie that kind of negates all of this sort of feminist leanings of the film undercuts all of it because it has to be like goldie she's a go getter baffling it's baffling traffic the other major differences i i we've covered all the major differences while not all no no not all the difference but we have covered i feel like a lot of the major differences sure yeah but it it is every scene feels different either because everything is fucked with or the scene surrounding that scene are so fucked with scenes don't have the same power that's the economy because that that's sort of fight scene when i watched the original version i'm like that's goldies best acting i've ever seen and then when you watch the the warner brothers version you're like this makes no fucking sense and it is that weird thing of like it does i mean this movie freaks you out a little bit i've read that like gonna read from this this is just about the fight on his fantastic here she looks dazzled by the pain of having lost she thinks her lover and her best friend in a single blow that's that's what her reading of i was in love mean that's the whole meaning the edit changes all the meaning of that scene in that line yes there's a coherent very specifically observed woman in the demi virgin who's usually not the kind of woman that people make movies about and in the warren brothers brothers version it is a frankenstein character that makes no sense and i mean it's one of those weird things where it's like they're trying to make i think they're fighting against the idea like oh audiences not gonna like goldie oldie for cheating on her husband a thousand percent and the way they tried to move me but a woman cheating on her concern that's the process a script you pick yeah but also the way they try to counteract that is to sometimes sometimes make her more of an innocent and sometimes maker more sort of self righteous in a way that makes no sense you know she goes from being both like total like like a pushover to be in like the rah rah alike will listen to me i live my life now when in reality it's someone who just kind of is living for the first time it is making mistakes and it's confused and traffickers she is i think as the sight and sound article argues that russell is actually the actor who suffers the most between lean cuts till he gets flattened out he gets completely re everything his performances ruined yeah adding basically make adding scenes where he is playing a different character fucks fucks things up the most holy because lottie as we've said basically shines brightest in both cuts anyway yeah obviously they're trying to fuck with that feeling better i scenes that are cut out but her character's fundamentally yes in hawn i mean like everything you've said about no i was just going to say the watching this there's that there's that final scene the only the studio cut has were kurt on the bus oh yeah another gladys very different the right the warner brothers cut for his character he feels like a like i dunno no no like a manic or just like a pixie daddy you know what i'm saying tactics magical you're not a real person type of like just representational kind of character than anything here's some of the things i'm not now i'm just reading okay there's a montage of her fixing things in the house remember that like a toaster or glaister whatever which i think is just being like look how good she is at machines now sure the scene where she cuts her hair is preceded by just because original in the original version she takes the bath with the goggles on and he gets up look in the mirror decides to cut her ear and sense of just her trying something drink something i stories in the fucking over remember all women must cut their hair which doesn't explain the fact that the rest of the women in the mood don't cut there no because they're wearing hairnets ernest also depriving her of tani they're making her haircuts i don't know why they did that then a mandated decision there's shit like that that's not there's something that holly hunter's character guess there's this pivotal scene in both movies where she is excited to hear from her i don't know if it's a couple of weeks from our house husband or sweetheart whoever you know i think it's our husbands her and then and then immediately told her husband is killed it's incredible moment in both where uh-huh the guy delivering the news has he's never done it before and is clearly can't handle her trying and hugging him but then there's in the demi cut there's this scene of her tuvalu ski kind of bragging about how her here cute tearstained face was on the cover of life and like she's like smiling about it but it is a very ironic and sort of dark exceeds become a superstar reef has become like yeah like promotional material for the war and the camera pans across the catwalk goldie hawn kurt russell and making making out right it's like there's this cynical tone about the sort of patriotic manipulation of everything yeah and that these friendships and these he's you know transformations happen anyway but point is the movie like wasn't america great forgiven these ladies shots you don't like no point is the debbie right yeah there's the scene where lottie sees fred ward at the ball right before he's about to schilling house call him biscuits i'm sorry just this gets the ball the biscuit ball and she's been dancing with a higher ranking man in the military yes and he's sort sort of trying to get in and you know kerr right there's a disagreement in where the higher era who is now dancing with biscuits ex girlfriend is told that he needs to refer to him as his superior yes and in the original version it is much more tense it is a fucking fasten complicating but this guy who used to think that he was a big time reading in the guy is like you know no you're fucking plays yeah exactly you're woman's right you lost everything and in the in the studio version it's totally re-cut around it and the performance takes they picker goofy and it just sort of becomes like to joke that his status change there's just like depth in meaning cut out of every moment like just gutted from scooped south from the center it does make you think though about like how rarely we discuss editing in this way because people think about things in terms of like oh that seems well edited or like oh it's smarter than to add this thing in or cut this thing out you're watching the scene gene performances just having the center like removed from them it's so strange you realize how much every performance is like either either totally supported or destroyed by an editor with you know and sometimes actors will say that when they get out for an oscar and people think it's like oh it's like self a- facing self deprecating stuff where they're like i mean i'm just like so grateful that the editor picked the right choices because if they pick the wrong takes i wouldn't be here today right and it is a true thing where it's like the editing in director of so much power to thing some actress tara defying about working in films oppose the theater it's a thing that i find kind of exhilarating about how sort of piecemeal it is you really are giving someone else the power to totally like redefined your performance because you can do things that will just never make it into the film that are the difference between your character being coherent or not and they're also tons of cases actors terrible onset in the editing room somehow they find a way to go off us this and this and this it looks like that's a thing and and you make a coherent performance as something that was not coherent on the day the swing shift stories hollywood tragedy that's what steve i'm percents he says it echoes would are KO did to orson welles this is the magnificent emerson's but the differences that even the fucked up version of amber sensors is the only version of it exists is a master whereas the fuck that version swing shift is like you say the frankenstein it just you know it can it can function in that weird hollywood way that you're talking about we're like yeah okay you could sit down and watch that and come out and be like well i guess i just saw not very good movie sure that's how i found if no one ever told you got fucked at you it'd be like well yeah they just whatever they weren't balancing the tones doubt that was the thing that hurt him the most was felt he had his breakthrough movie and then he read these reviews i used that we're alike swing ships it's a shame demi really seemed like he was going to be the guy and he was saying like reading it attacked attacking him personally sure as like i guess we misread this guy's potential and for him to sit back and not be able to comment on it and not say this isn't my movie you cannot don't like it i don't like it either but this is fundamentally not the movie i made in every regard i think it kind of broke him but out of that comes like the new even pure sort of following his on wednesday which is true if many a director we've covered yes there's often that traumatic moment earlier in the career that that sort of casts a shadow the christmas you know liars wide awake which we all knew it was about a tight boy i ah james cameron province there are many examples where director suffer some kind of loss of control and codifies is for them that they need to be in charge but then demi is no tyrant i mean that's the thing about him that so special is like never as a reputation as always thought the grand collaborator so as some directors i guess like the cameras of the world or is someone's it'd be like yeah the lesson i've learned is that i'm in charge i get final cut don't don't fuck with me and the lesson demi learned just like i should just work with my friends yep hey who's that oh i'll get it yeah hello i'm still doing a crate ferguson thing now who is that at the no no craig is not is not a kind of thing i know who you are i'm rocky balboa sure boxer rocky balboa famed philly legend man and you gotta you gotta an italian restaurant these days right you've got pictures on the wall or whatever got a little rest okay yes sir should be mumble earlier this is like rocky two rocky yeah confidence sound like myself no anyway what's rocky traffic i five look here's the problem you i really try to lean into it now i'm really is years years and why don't give me line ratings on my own life sorry okay listen look here's here's the thing i gotta practice for my next match oh and i know how you like to get back in the ring of course as you you want to do and you know what i like to do he liked to do a lot of meat were i like the beat my meat do you i mean i know you you know use the meat to to to punch in yeah of course he'd beat it do you ever throw it on your back and maybe run around with it most definitely sure okay so you just you know your your meat guy yeah but look i got restauranter renter will on both dual purpose but you know i got calcium deposits in my knee yeah it's not dual-purpose beat up the meat and serve it to you know tenderizer kobe all right fine well when it comes to me ryan yeah quality matt i sound like rocky but there's more to it than texture taste okay yeah i know you know high quality humanely raised me is important if you're you know you want to live a moral life in this world you know you wanna have properly raised me that's no didn't you know have a sad existence yeah you wanna meet live like rocky balboa satisfying five live me you want rocky rockies very sad he's only won four championships it's better for the animals better for the environment you know you stay away from industrial tell me that's bad for the environment yeah you know i mean we're talking no added hormones here no added hormones that's right they're never given antibiotics at put your doc and you talk about any no antibiotics ever or added hormones you want they've got heritage report with the all vegetarian feed they got pasture raised beef sounds that can take grass-fed spanish kick that still he got organic free range non GMO oh chicken they got wildcard alaskan sockeye salmon yeah i'm getting all this stuff and guess what comes in a box my fifth straight to your door fisa getting hungry just hearing the descriptions interesting okay okay well every box that they sent butcher box has nine to eleven pounds of me enough for twenty four individual meals til pac fresh vacuum sealed shipped frozen then you can customize your box they have options but you can also customize and get exactly what you want and ships right to your doors and i don't know about this i threw through in some ground beef bacon and mine little extra 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office game eighty four nineteen april thirteenth nineteen eighty-four okay okay we've got film swing shift opening with two point seven million to two million i'm sorry number nine at the box office it is not a major player shaida eventually topped out at let's see what six point six is bad not very good eh okay so that's that number nine ninety number nine number one at the box office at yawn box office is the orth in a triple check this because it's worth fourth ah orca or whatever his name is on the brain i believe it's the fourth yes in a horror franchise okay but it's got one of those confusing entitles like it's not like you know x four shirt it's it has a title that suggests something different but it is the fourth in a very long running har franchise is it further thirteenth final track correct which like where they were like friday the thirteenth the gimmick is it's friday thirteenth here's a iheart movie and then friday the thirteenth partout they were like you love that one part two it's the same thing then three three four they were like fuck what do we do let's just say it's the last week milk this right there's no more juice and then that meant that meant that they could be like jason's back you know they could be like oh because five if is like the new beginning new beginning jason's mac no but you do not know what the plot of five-hour jason right right right is a guy who wears here's a jason tommy or whatever it's it's like six is the one where roy jason service number six is jason lives right yes that's where jason's ba- isn't that the one where they explicitly start being like he's like a demon yeah they're they're all in magically hours wrapped satan i've been watching those movies because of the i discovered the paul rust macaroni not really watched podcast and it's been fun watching yeah but i haven't gotten to yet has more of a freddie guy i was always more more of a michael myers guy interest for my dude of the three data on those i'm bad on the freddie freddie i think i've seen one two and three three and then maybe new nightmare oh guy arenal razor made more sense than that all right so that you know opening and it's just one of those classic things no freddie movie has ever made a ton of money i mean sorry jason no no friday the thirteenth sure i think the highest grossing if you exclude like the remake is the first one made like thirty but they would make them every fucking year for chair million bucks bucks and they'd always make like twenty it was just like yeah that's all the horror movies that came out today they make like fifty or say it was establishment of that model auto basically it's just like look fucking cold further thirteen kill some teens it's out by october yeah see you later because there's a story is paramount i think it was it was like the junior dusty office and it would cut down the woods get careless just the way you need a camera now find get a camera camera in a camera to make a movie opens to eleven million dollars and it made thirty two yeah number two at the box office is one of the big comedies of the year and it does start a franchise it starts comedy franchise does ends nodding does it does starts a franchise how many are in the franchise a lot oh i think there's more is police lee's academy the original police academy how many are there seven can i see if i can name them all yet let me just queue them up please one second please there are seven okay police academy or a good job you got that one full boy please can't me to their first first assignment erect police academy three back to basics close extra training back in training packing training which really cheese one assignment and they're back in training number four mission to moscow no that's number seven fuck you're you're now you're spices operation miami beach chats five which i believe is assignment miami beat is this citizens on patrol for yes that's right okay five is this miami beach what six sixties way more serious sounding than assignment miami and seventy esscalation heavens mission among five is like we reassigning miami beach check it out sixty six is like oh no no nine eleven police academy nine eleven now it is police academy six city under siege of course is a city not sound like a comedy no not at all yeah anyway that but this is the first police academy do you remember how one of the cast members his whole thing is he just made sounds with his mouth of course of course that's the only police academy right is that sweet track is that his character fucking now what happened to that kind of comedy it was the sixth highest grossing movie of the year it's is crazy you know it's it's made look it's been out for four weeks it's made thirty seven million dollars it's gonna make like ninety so it's like you know it is kinda crazy he's just the last pre VHS it is kinda crazy nap period time someone can get up there and just really good sound effects on stage at the improv for ten minutes the people who put them in movies what does he play cop who's good at sound affects you can have an act that was totally incompatible with narrative comedy and they'd still figure out a reason why they can put you in a movie number three bucks a good movie from director we could cover someday i would call it in an adventure and adventure is that the only thing you'd call it sort of it's got some romance interest well okay good movie turner guess let's as as long as it's fucking long that's how long time to where you cut i don't think you can cut he cut one day one day right because what you wanna cut and not do more win that's the problem we gotta do mar when you're not gonna cut the early ones because those are the ones that went likes the most earlier in this great because i want to hold your hand then used is cars that are managing the stone then back to the future you're not gonna start late no not at all get out early honestly the ones you combine the fucking cartoons cartoons that's what you do what are the cartoons like polar express christmas carol beowulf where he keeps doing these three d. i never heard yeah i think all three gross over one hundred million dollars i don't think beowulf made a deal the other two definitely will probably meet any seven i'm guessing well now now i'm gonna have to find eighty two domestic can i guess the other ones i think polar express his one seventy now on just give me a second jesus christ didn't just click on damascus because box office has changed its interface i'm i'm trying to clearly studio ships as well i always this route that's insane and then christmas carol is one ten definitely snuck over one hundred let's find out there's lots of them it made one thirty seven vow but they were also expensive that was sort of a hidden they all polar express i think didn't lose money especially capri releasing the other ones were so expensive and he was about about to do a yellow submarine jesus with pearson fouls champ who's gonna play john lennon i think or paul mccartney trying to complain anyway weird idea he bad idea weird i think some acas is kinda just has bad ideas is these days he has ideas how that's allied a movie that is lula all right number four the only real ally is another yes number four no he's got his stands you know they'll never leave him there number four is an adventure film a throwback doc a real throwback a real throwback what kind of star we looking at here it's it he is a star he was a star so alive or just no longer still alive definitely no longer started like a euro kind of star kind of like rutger hauer type pardieu no no no think a little less classy but you're thinking you're you you are corral christopher land there you thank you yeah christopher lambert highlander not highlander highlander comes later this is krista tarzan yes gray stroke village and of tarzan comma the lord of the apes long title to an oscar nominated film ralph richardson who believe and rick baker rick for big researcher sure there's monkeys so just every ten years or so i think some studios just like let's do atari tarzan tarzan peter pan like eight the no not seventy years can go by without someone being can we and it sounds like there are people out there who are like i'm real tarzan head yeah i love tarzan yeah like even godzilla whatever there are people who are like i worship that series i know all its intricacies right no one's like i love the lore of tarzan remember there's a live action and tarzan movie that goes to one hundred twenty five years ago then no one talks about david gates talks about it when he's talking to his financial planner number five is a comedy that i had on VHS i watched all the time kenny little more ars in that are still very much in his comedy face his comedy face now he's moved out is it a hank's is it the money pit i'm shaking my head lagging their fingers but it is hangs it is hank's and it's too early to be big that's right it's not a little it's it's a big one it's not turn one day there would be a completely separate movie called a bigger the girl one of these okay yeah but i wanted to be back lucas include the movie's called splash the film that save disney god i've seen that movie a bunch short film that saved dismal that's weird it's also the creation of touchdown and do you know the splash mountain was originally supposed let's be a splash right now did not know that that's crazy said it's a ride based on of course path of least resistance song of the south which is pretty much they're only acknowledged in south right like that and i guess i did have VHS when i was a kid of zippy do it would be part of a single on of course no other and even my parents even when i was five were like tricky one i was like what song of the south and they were like hm how do we so much context to give you hear a for more tune into you must remember this right the five or six or whatever splash ron howard film guy falls in love with the mermaid daryl hannah brian grazer said he kept the idea for that movie because because he felt like he quote couldn't meet a nice girl in LA all these girls are trashy so he dreamed that he could meet a mermaid great have you have you seen splash i saw many times as a child probably had so many years since one thousand nine hundred eighty six i think honestly saint cloud cape daryl hannah matvey john candy shift shows up like all these people pop up on our some other movies we're not gonna do ron howard and he's in the bracket though in my opinion we put them in there there's an argument for him you got moscow on the hudson yes classic in those there's so many of those eighties comedies it's like robin williams for that movie showed have yeah it's soviet america yaacob sudas you number seven terms of endearment you just obviously still run the table right from the previous year it's it just won an oscar though and you've got shifty got footloose five everybody gotta get cock footloose you got where the boys are the barbara uh not barbara bette midler mover no you're not looking for the boys what's appears to be a film about sexy ladies and bathing suits on the beach sure it's like a sex comedy co where the boys note to self by all remaining copies that's it okay well perfect episode i think it's a fascinating story what happened this movie it was genuinely fun to watch both cuts which i thought would be sort of a pain in the ass i'll do anything it was a pain amy acid i watch those cuddly like six months apart yeah i also think it's a fascinating story what happened to my brain being in this different studio 'cause i feel l. upside down i'm seiger knows your i'm not saying i didn't i don't mean it as any sort of i know i'm just saying moore as apologetic i i don't wanna see you i'll turn down side how mixed up upside down i mean now it's fun though turnby isn't that weird though like so so much just like are we doing this for so long now coming up on five years through podcast yes pike is going to kindergarten about about to hit two fifty crazy which we do for two fifty timber my original idea for two hunter was when we say it because maybe it's a surprised to fifty okay fine i'll say it off my that's fine i'll tell you what movie jonathan didn't make enough money that sounds like we should i think so okay folks law hey con- sign off see you folks but i do all all the time when i'm in this room apparently is weird though how much like it's like if you work in an office every day and then one day you go in the desks are flipped you know now and you're just like my entire sense of where things are is so tied to specific setup housley out to undo my sign off that i do only only in this room but please continue with the trove episode thank you all for listening please rate whereas you subscribe thanks to andrew good offer social the high five and now they weren't coming for a theme song giovane parallels for our where go to t dot com for 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July 4: Rules of the robed

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July 4: Rules of the robed

"This is a cbc podcast i'm trend of winter and i'm so i'm a little long welcome to chosen family every second week we talk about bart sexuality and identity with a special guests usually clear but not always i completely struggle coming out to my parents as a comedian being in the entertainment industry for middle eastern people is unheard up affecting change requires people to shake it up listen to chosen family where ever you get your podcast what signer you by the way i'm an area of course i love it hello i'm susan boehner sitting in for carol off good evening i'm karen gordon this is as it happens the podcast addition tonight rules of the road five out of six recent judicial appointments have personal connection to liberal mp dominic long and now are guest wants an investigation of the way judges are appointed in the first place rest in peace last a research groups finally find the graves of more than thirty american marines and sailors who died in the pacific island during the second world war and his returning them to their home countries time flies when you're making fun after sixty seven years it looks like the home of the fold in its folding and then artists were mad magazine reflects on the end of a plush boogie nights sitution emancipation provocation a member of the breakfast party says the uk is noble desire to leave you it's just part of a long history of oppressed people turning on their oppressors and then it gets worse growing pains it took six years of fighting with community bigwigs end a change in florida state law but her mind rackets could finally plant a vegetable garden her front yard and the tooth will out it began with a blister on jeff weekly split and ended did with emergence of a chunk of bone once resided in the most of the shark which attacked mr weekly twenty four years ago as it happens the thursday edition radio the clarify he's not long in the tooth but the too belonging five of the six most recent federal judicial appointments have some kind of personal connection to liberal mp dominic long and while new brunswick legal community is a small world and mr limbaugh is a former lawyer those connections aren't sitting well with some people legal experts and opposition politicians have raised the issue this week after cbc new brunswick the initial reporting here's how prime minister justin didn't trudeau responded today at a news conference we have merit based a transparent appointment system with a significant improvement improvement over the protest that stephen harper and the conservatives had in place that not transparent not merit based we are pleased at we have a nominated a top notch judges right across the country and we will continue to we are fully confident that the protest transparent spirit and merit based protests that we put in place a is the right one and we stand by it now duff conic her has raised its own concern he's the founder of democracy watch a government accountability watchdog and he's now asking me office office of canada's ethics commission to investigate the link we reach mr khan occur in ottawa that you're kind of what bothers you about these recent judicial appointees and their ties to dominic law veep problem is really the the standard of appearance of conflict of interest seems to have been violated when you look at these donations that a some of these people have made and also possibilities that in one case they they bought a property from him in his neighbors and likely also there's some friendships in their it all crosses the line and the real standard is appearance of a conflict of interest that's all you need a cabinet minister to be prohibited from taking part in the decision making process at briefly can you review these five judicial appointments end end they're linked to the minister sure first of all you have justice charles long who is a point into these new brunswick court of appeal injustice arthur oil and robert a dice who were appointing tuesday quarter queens bench and they all donated to help minister the blonde pay off his debt from his two thousand eight liberal party leadership race campaign and they've also old donated to a minister the blow of writing association station in the case of mr doyle more than four thousand dollars on mr dice hurt sixteen hundred dollars mr little blonde almost eight thousand dollars seventy eight hundred dollars to this right association mr doyle doesn't even living the writing lives a hundred kilometers away from mr lovelock's writing and then we'll see a other case v appointment of the chief justice of the quarter queens bench by prime mr trudeau of tracy to wear her husband also donated two minutes long campaign campaign among other donations to the liberal party in a couple of purchased a home from industry level in twenty thirteen for four hundred and thirty thousand dollars a home that is located next to move through the summer home you talk about hearing of a conflict of interest but do you have any evidence to suggest that that the minister pulled any strings to get any of these people appointed well if he did he would have violated the criminal code and that's the way the rules were conflict of interest there because unless you could do vulcan mind meld you can't tell why someone's making a decision or what why they might be saying something about somebody or you have to have people step aside when there's an appearance of a conflict of interest we don't have proof that he did anything in particular the push for them all we have to prove is that participated you've heard some cofer intrusive there and that's a violation of itself new brunswick is a small province and so it's legal community is certainly not huge dominic law himself as a former former lawyer he went to law school there doesn't it stands to reason that he might know some of these people eligible for their for these jobs very much so and that's why he should not be taking part in the decision making process and why the whole appointment process needs to be changed it's not any more transparent than the harper conservatives used nor is it anymore merit based it's not a merit based process when you have politicians involved when politicians involved politically process judges swear and oh to be impartial regardless of the any political affiliations they might have had before taking the ban why don't you have confidence the canadian judges will uphold those oh well it's not just me the canadian judicial council which is see body the disciplines judges when they act don't act impartially and canadian judicial council raise concerns back in two thousand seven about changes to be appointment pro says instead pointment protests must itself be totally free from even appearance or hint of political interference or bias otherwise it undermines judicial independence and judicial independence is key to having a democracy and having a law upheld fairly end impartially across the country and that's why the system should be changed we have a modeling ontario it's not as good as it could be but it's better than the federal system the united kingdom does it even better in there should not be this involvement of politicians in this process do you believe that there's any role for government discretion when it comes to appointing judges no it really has to be restricted what if they want to make sure that they have more women or more minora represented on the bench then set that goal for the committee but have a fully independent committee do the search come up with a shortlist of candidates as they do in ontario committee sent a list of only one two three kennedy's we don't know exactly how many are sent by the federal committees but it could be a very long list they may be sending list of ten or twenty lawyers and it's very easy for the prime minister and the justice minister to find one of those lawyers who supports the party and then appoint them above everyone else and they won't even disclose a whether the people who were pointing are the most qualified well what would you say the justin trudeau who has as we just heard said that they appointments distant is merit based and it's vastly improved over what the previous conservative servative government yeah i would say get a reality check justin trudeau then please wakeup how important this is to having fair and impartial law enforcement across the country you cannot have even the hint of the appearance of bias it undermines entire law enforcement system in every party should be promising this because this is very key to having a law enforcement is fair and impartial across canada in for the raccoon i don't think these other major party are making macron i know he has no promise in its platform which is released it's not too late obviously they could add another chapter of the conservatives broken promise back in two thousand six the set up an independent appointments commission and will see whether the new leader andrew scheer takes the seriously or just complaints about it you've also raised concerns about how the ethics commissioner mattie on geo himself was appointed by these federal liberal if you don't trust him in that role why are you asking him to investigate dominic ludlow were not actually asking him to investigate commissioner was hand picked by the trudeau cabinet through a very secretive and dishonest protests were asking mary on to refer investigation to someone who is independent of him independent of all political parties it's very key he becomes his senior lawyer who actually heads up the investigation division is the sister in law dominic law so we really have a layer cake of layer after layer of conflict of interest in this situation and then many appointment and law enforcement situations at the federal level because the whole point in the process of law enforcement officers is politically tainted that's kind of car thank you so much fear interest duff conic her as the founder of democracy watch we reached him in ottawa cbc reached out to liberal impede dominic long belongs office for comment but was referred to the minister of justice in a statement the minister's office said quote all judicial appointments are made on the basis of merit candidates are first evaluated by independent judicial advisory committee who thoroughly review the applications shins and provide recommendations to the minister minister considers a number of factors including the needs of the court the diversity of the bench each candidates areas of expertise and the strength of their application in determining who to recommend a cabinet unquote the good news is it alford inhuman still isn't worried the bad news is that after sixty seven years it seems like the gap to mass got mad magazine should be because today there are reports the deep see which publishes a satirical magazine won't be pointing out anymore issues of mad featuring new material as of this fall for more than two decades peter cooper has drawn and written the spy versus spy comics mad magazine we reached mr cooper per in new york mr cooper how you feeling about these reports that mad magazine is for the most part calling acquit well i i'm still waiting to see if that's holy troop so i'm still in a holding pattern and based on the fact that i have done a number of new comics in the last few months and i'm expecting to see them printed in i'm still working haven't done the eulogy just yet i see silken i quote you as what me worry to laugh harris i think dolly llamas said that early on a note you can quote me as spy versus spy would say that's the quote 'cause they don't actually speak so you've drawn this by versus by comic which is synonymous with mad magazine for twenty three years have you been hearing from folks at the magazine what did they telling you well i haven't been and the mostly saw the same news you probably saw so i'm still waiting here and the way i look at his matt has survived many things over the years including a there is unamerican activities committee in in nineteen fifty four which killed all of the company that that was producing matt and the only thing left standing mad a and then in two thousand eight in during my run after the crash of we the magazine went quarterly at any any nommik cat crash yes and so we came back from that so and considering the you know the circulation of matt now is it's a i think it's double that from of time and newsweek combined which is totally not true but you know i'm living united states where we just say whatever you sorted out you might work magazine correct but but you know the circulation is still actually it's like you know a hundred and forty thousand copies that doesn't sound like a death sentence just yet but you know we'll see it's interesting that so many people today are speaking out about how important this magazine has been to them one of those people weird al yankovic he i guess he was once a guest editor for mad at us today he deleted i can't begin to describe the impact it had on me as a young kid it's pretty much the reason i turned out weird goodbye to one of the all time greatest american institutions i i would see following my all that except for the good by part 'cause discovering the humor in politics could coexist they whole idea of laughing at everything and not taking yourself too seriously the simpsons saturday night live onion the daily show all of those are the result in one way or another harvey kurtz means the creator of madman genius and so it it has embedded itself in our culture in a way that will never go away because you're basically looking at the children of mad magazine in all these different art forms of humor politics and and generally not worrying well if it lives on through all of those foreign why do we still need a mad magazine oh you know i'm so pleased that there are still forums like this around and where cartoonist like myself can do the same kind of lunacy and talk about these things in in an old school form which still i think is very viable and i'm you know i guess i'm part dinosaur because i still love to 'em reid mad magazine in the bathroom and it doesn't work as well on my phone like you talk about the rich history of political and social commentary what stands out for you will remember the covers that were just shocking talking in fact a wonder if i'm showed a sign in front of the white house and said out of order a deal with the back cover that completely blew my mind it showed his soldier on his way back from vietnam in the parade and he's carrying instead of a gun and a giant syringe implying that he's heroin addicts and when johnny comes merging home and the idea that this humor magazine would have something that was still on humorous as part of the mix along with al jack fees fold in and all these other things were going on in the magazine gave in the sense that there wasn't a line that had to be drawn between a social commentary and something that was just a gutless what about the politically correct era that many comedians it's been speaking out about did that affect matt you know in in in various degrees no doubt just because it is all pervasive but at the same time i would say that matt has managed to well they're in a lot of ways responsible for it's kind of humor that has moved the line and what you can and can't say and that they're so have been so wonderfully subversive over the years that i think that that's that's still part of what they do and it but we were in a thing a cultural place where you could step off the path and people will be insulted but then again that is been a the very thing that mad loves to do so i'd say it's mostly on the passive stepping off the past and so what if this is in fact he ended path and there is no more new content for matt on there will be no more laughter in the world will just all be sad and crying justed around planet something go oh that's too bad you know they're in one form or another another as you said because it's being embedded in so many other art forms it will be there no matter what and that these artists like myself who have been so influenced by it are gonna continue to do something that is essentially the result of harvey kertzman influence and magic influence over the years so you'll see mad around no matter what as long as we live in this mad mad world came as chicken freight thank you so much thank you bye peter cooper is an illustrator who has written in drawing the spy versus spy comics from mad magazine for the past two decades we reached him in new york today's announcement isn't the first big change for the satirical publication back in two thousand and one magazines editors made the controversial decision to begin publishing in color and to accept advertising at the time former as it happens host mary lou finley spoke with mad magazine's then co editor john cara about the mood i'm stating the obvious you and i say we don't living a black and white world and the more we thought about it and the more we thought about all the things we could do with color we decided we wanted to do it and unfortunately but economics away they are was it's a choice of either tripling the magazine's cover price or accepting yet he just went just roaring down that slippery road along with everyone else i mean met with only magazine other than consumer reports that wasn't and accepting ads but i guess it'll it'll have to be a leap of faith leaders in we promise it will be as irreverent in dominant feel this is ever find a long near founder just be rolling in his grave well no because he was cremated but do you think that that actually was horrified no he wasn't no no in fact very very early admits existence we did accept advertising so this is a return to a very short lived policy from a very early fifties what kind of that you're gonna put in there who will advertising mad who would have the businessmen no actually the first that we salt was to out choice let's tap out choices those up in the breath mints oh yes they're white aren't they yes coming up album we call her there yes yeah okay now listen you're april issue got it right here it's in color but night in there yeah right that has a few at dinner but not many big issue before distinguishable go there blurring the line even more and more we'll ads and you know we have to take the part of the blame or part of the credits madison avenue doing wing ads like they do now because i think several generations of people grew up breeding met who are now in advertising editorial positions who was sort of addressing that cynicism that people look at what's ads and trying to get around the but right cutie or being entertaining but yet they themselves have you got a copy of that that issue a you know what i don't i don't wait a minute i think i do here it is what i love was the ballot him of the republic yeah i think that's not about the money piece yes you're right like that piece to you one thing the lap first quite funny the last verse yeah so congratulations george you somehow found a way to win you have squeaked into the white house by a margin rages are thin you will serve of a single term then lose when hillary gets in four years then you'll be gone glory glory no more waiting no more endless tabulating no more talking heads debating somehow oh will stagger right on good to talk to you thank you very much many more years thankless of a calf by by by from our archives that's mad magazine's former co editor john cara speaking former as it happens host mary lou finley back in two thousand and one when the magazine began accepting ads and printing in color when jeff weekly of florida found what looked like a blister on his foot he didn't think much of it he certainly didn't think something would come out of it for and and that something would be an old piece of two regardless that's what happened mr weekly figured that unpredictable object had been in his foot for more than twenty years but naturally he's still had questions so mr weekly gave the piece of two to the florida museum natural history that's where gavin naylor works as an evolutionary biologist we reached mr naylor in cape canaveral florida mr naylor what did mr weekly stay when he called your museum you're help so he had heard that we were able to determine what species of shock might be involved in a shot by by looking at the dna so she had to that had emerged from a blessed the in his coat and you wonder if we might also be able to apply techniques that were used previous they determined what pieces of shock convicting him so what did he tell you about about how to serve this to fragment might have ended up and it's like well he e m it's currently in editor magazine and he's in his forties but stuff about twentieth or twenty four years previously had been a king stuff up and he was stuffing off the east coast of florida and had been bitten by something that he presumed presumed with the shock aunt that he had several stitches and got stitched up on his friend or a shop fan but they never knew what it was andy it's a fairly common occurrence of in florida water and so you thought burgess love it when backout surfing a couple of weeks lights up an presume that all of the pieces of detroit that's actually been removed from injury on foot and then put nothing of it and then twenty four years later the little shop of enamel at the two came out and he seeing the reports that we've been able to get knocked out the duct tape and so he was interested to see if we might be able to do the same thing for him what does this look like what what you sound when he brought he wins it looked like i'm all that was probably about two millimeters long about the me too wide but there's a bit of pope inside it suggested very thin sliver of a enamel it's very very tiny wasn't a you know like a cartoon looking trying to to just a little sliver more expensive than anything else and how did you investigate what this this sliver of the two well a way investigating like we do all samples that were receipt we were worried that might be in order to determine what shock a bit in weekday we have to remove any extraneous dna which what party from his body or anybody but the handle the truth and so they were a little bit of bleach offense and oxidizing jim which destroyed superficial yeah hey let me write it out and then we drill down with a sterile scout fall into the tiny little bit of truth what still protected by being normal i go out and then perceptible amounts of this year and then the subsequent went on to extract the dna from that mecca library when did you figure out through this analysis so with that in the dna sequence from the tissue that what's inside the tooth and then just simply compared it to a reference david price which we might saying all the different species the shots in the world to sample and we found out that it was unambiguously a from a back the shock and how confident were you at the outset that you would actually find the dna you needed to discover the tourist well we were quite surprised a when it came up to us we we a lot of inquiries climbers from the general public and we always strikes a helping hand but behind the scenes we thought well that's absolutely no way this is gonna work because this little piece of a nominal being in his body for twenty four years old the enzymes in his body had been trying to get rid of foreign objects i'm break things down immune system would have taken care of everything so we thought there was very little chance that this would work and my post up that she did all the lab work adoptee yang is suggesting why we're doing this is not been worked at all and i said i know why why but let's just give it up college try will see what happens and and then the person that came back to me and said you're not gonna believe it but i think this was a guy called positive and he then said no i think so and i and i said well insurance not contamination because of you know what those shots in the lobby said no it's not contamination look at it and then you live with absolutely right it wasn't that contaminant and then the sequence match perfectly with these black shots which were in the area so everything lined up and that will also include the data that we had was actually a reflection of what is happening so it was a it was a four to access and i'm lucky break time to sort of peace in the to skate in someone's flood so long i think if you're just celebrate people extensively you're fine but it was far more common than you might otherwise in just the right people like me when i get yeah they have a splinter goes down you remove most of it and then a couple of years later on six months later the itchy casick a finger on something emerges from a blister a or any individual property only happens once so confident in their lifetime but collectively when you look at the general population you see that there are a lot of foreign object the get the question then people bodies and a lot of times there's examples of needles splinter bone fragments paul story a so it's not so unusual but what we thought was particularly unusual is that'd be any dna left because that that was a huge surprise to us and how mr weekly how did he feel about what you discovered it hunter talk to me he's i think he was is that we've been able to resolve the question he admitted to hear the sound but it was not a shop any felt a bit barest if it was gonna be barracuda or or just the bernie fish the name would diminish the mystique about being bitten by a shark much all right you're breaking up a little bit but thanks so much mr naylor you're very welcome by by by kevin naylor is the director actor of the florida program for shark research at the florida museum of natural history we reached him in cape canaveral researchers published in wilderness and environmental medicine and if you'd like to see a picture of what came out of jeff weekly foot visit our website cbc dot ca slash hey i ate a for seventy five years the bodies of scores of american service members have lane in makeshift graves on a tiny island in the middle of the pacific ocean they were killed during the second world war three day battle with japanese forces they were buried hastily by their comrades in the wet island soil after the war the west armies search for the remains but eventually declare them quote on recoverable now after a long search and a complicated dig a nonprofit group working with e u s defense department has found the graves of more than thirty marines and sailors on the island of base gio just in the queue you is the chief operating officer for that group history flights we reached him in fredericksburg virginia mr lead here what what's the challenge of finding the graves of these particular troops the challenge was that after the battle of tar one this was a fast moving operation the majority of the battle took seventy six hours in the united states were moving to what what's called a pacific island hopping campaign and they were moving from island the island it's such a rapid pace the casualties were buried in the best manner that they possibly could in the soils they were there only a very small island is only approximately eight hundred meters wide by less than a mile long and they bury them the best they could at the time and they mock them the best they could at that time and after some of the grave started getting mixed up moved around covered up and then right after the war when the population started moving back into those islands they started building top of those places and i understand that you had to move and abandoned building in dig into a lottery table to locate this row of grades pumping the water as he went yeah susan we have numerous times base yo island is out in the middle of nowhere in the water table was roughly about a hundred and twenty centimeters in that presented issues they were buried mostly right after waterline andy population built up on top of their also presented the challenge of not only do you have to locate the graves and a lot of them are underneath permanent structure sitter there we've had the move structures we've had to rebuild a family's home saw the locals have been great great they'd given a great permission the cure abbas government is a when we locate individuals and we talk with the families and we tell them what's going on and what we would like to do they've been very cordial a lot of them love to assist then we employ a lot of local workers there to help can you describe to me what it's like when you actually signed the grain there there's a feeling of silence of reverence when you actually do discover discover that all the time the research and effort is actually produced a set of missing u s servicemen remains and they're really near and dear to my heart having served thirty one years in the united states marine corps in my wife search twenty two years the cormon is a medic in the united states navy so the people we've actually deployed with in combat these are like arkin and these were america's sons and the people who we employ to do this line of work work who are phenomenal scientists explosive ordinance disposal experts military team leaders medics and the local population all come together and the reverence that you have is the pacific islanders know what happened on that island and the rules of reverence of what american marines in the military had to go through the freezer island from the japanese held invasion force it was there can you tell me about that can you tell me about what happened on this island and how that's true u s troops came to die on this island the tar will call in in twenty november nineteen forty three time period had four thousand of the imperial japanese marines rains they were called route consent tire forces so they were the best japanese soldiers and marines and naval forces the japan could put on the field of battle and they sent them out on these islands and they had dug in city island the island is not like the old famous he would jima there was a network of caves with the water table being so low end up being so flat but the japanese commander who is apple sheba psaki actually made a statement said it would take a million men a hundred years just still still not be able to take the island of tar and he believed that much in his force in in his garrison in the ferocity of movement along with coordinated airstrikes up on the usa navy in the united states army air forces a an along with the second marine division pressed across staten island over two thousand marines again when their lies that were on that island in in seventy two hours united states marine corps secured one of the first foothold in the pacific started the launching campaign duty eventually led to the fall will be would jima and eventually the fall of japan so this is a very important nine one in in all these aspect of the fighting in the pacific the most ferocious fighting a in a seventy two hour period happened on the islanders tomorrow so you you'll bring these remains home for identification and then later rebury i'll let this that means the family i talked to somebody earlier susan in and the best way i can say to the families that is when i wore the uniform of the united states marine the ugliest thing aside from actual combat in the most essential things you really had to do was the day that you were told you were gonna be the one that had the go to someone's house and tell them that their son daughter or their husband or the wife wasn't coming home it was the hardest duty and it still is today in usa military to be the person has to deliver that news because there is nothing but sadness is usually on the other end of that door when i took off uniform and i became the chief operating officer this organization after the defense p o w am i accounting agency let us know that they have positively we identified in individual and the families have been notified i know i'll get to be in my organization to be in a place to where you now go to the door and you open the door and you knocked and you get to tell them that we just found you're grandfather or we just found your son if they're still alive and there is absolutely justin over wyoming feeling of gratitude i've never been in a single incident on this side and the feeling of gratitude to a feeling a closure of feeling of relief it wasn't a feeling of sorrow it was a feeling of joy in that incredible feeling i imagine it is how long you plan to continue searching on honey island we plan to continue searching until week and find every single one that we possibly confined mr like you good to talk to you thank you very much to then have a great to talk to you as well and thank you for the interview goodbye you're by justin the hugh is where hit three flights a nonprofit group the work to recover the remains of american servicemembers he was in fredericksburg virginia a californians are watching for aftershocks from today's earthquake the six point four magnitude quake was the biggest date in nearly two decades then came after shocks carolyn doris was nearly epicenter working at in assisted care facility for the elderly she spoke with cnn brooke baldwin shortly after you could hear a rumble the ground started shaking and he thought oh it's just a little earthquake and then it hit hard and then everything really hurt steak and then i thought well this might be it so magic out of the room so minute assisted living so so we had people coming out of the room and the power goes out when i hear about the question is the power went out in the backup lights came on and then we had another after shock and then they it all went out so right now our goal is to keep everybody hydrated you know cool and 'em coming away from any more windows so it was that strong player dressers pictures tease you could see smoke out in rich parents where there's public in accidents and fires it was scary scary get were having another one right now right now get the hang hang with me carolyn a little out of breath 'cause all i care about its moment my babies are my children so but you're stuck at work and you've gotta pull it together and focus on everybody else no take a breath let me take a breath and then first are your kids okay all my kids okay so are you okay yeah man that would carolyn store is speaking with the cnn brooke baldwin this afternoon from the high desert haven assisted living facility in rich crest california the fornia that's close to the epicenter of the six point four magnitude earthquake that hit the area today you could find more quick at the cbc news website cbc dot ca slash news beep beep i manitoba doctor is sounding the alarm over the state of the provinces air ambulance service to remote areas since a private carrier took over the fleet last week medivac doctors are refusing to board the planes to other rural doctors have been out to pick up the slack on remote air ambulance flight the doctor ashley blake calls that unrealistic realistic and unsafe she's a family in your doctor and some roads luck manitoba the cbc julie's appraise spoke with doctor play this morning people are gonna die from necessary reason it's so they're asking i think it on these planes and manage critical care patient those however facility outside of her scope of practice outside of are leveler skill training a remote physicians are not trained in the physiological changes that happened when a person's body is in the air let alone on life support in the situation draws ruin northern physicians away from the haitian so you're local church in her anesthesiologist may not be available because they have been for life like what are you hearing from other rural physicians who were being approach to to stop these planes everybody's concerned with any only way they can raise the red flag has account whistle blower is just stop flying back while the docs have stopped flying west lifelike they're trying to raise the red flag but there's an issue not only the orchestrated privatization but also the patient safety and provider safety issues like i know some of the dachshund lifelike have to give up their own seat because the cardiac monitor happy buckled in and so what do you wanna see happen next well i wanna see the planes the pilots and the program reinstated it's only well trained and hospital staff affiliated team can provide the care and by taking hospital critical care services to the critically injured patients we need the plane's pilot program reinstated they're not doing their due diligence manitoba and it's completely unfair it's almost completely colonization with northern rural manitoba communities prejudice bias racist whatever you wanna call it but most of those living beyond that you hunter kilometer radius of winnipeg her native are indigenous and some degree and i do feel as if there were a bunch of politicians that lives outside of the like to hunter kilometer radius we'd be having a very different discussion of doctor ashley blame she's a family and your your doctor that really do like manitoba should be speaking with cbs these information radio this morning about the provinces promote air ambulance service the anti too much too much her mind ricketts has never been so excited to see a tomato in her garden for the past six years she and her husband tom carola have been fighting the village sillage of miami shores in florida with a right to grow vegetables in their front yard and you state law finally allows him to do so it just went into effect this week we reached ms rickety in miami shores florida ms ricketts how did it we'll be out in the garden well sunshine always feels good but i really wasn't working prochet neighbors were doing they lift in the planting from me on this tour and it just keep a film that turned dolphins were health and so you had quite a crowd come out frizzy inauguration of the new garden oh you're a number of people killed what is this game means to you it's a relief that they sold over here's the uncertainty in stress is or you're battle started in twenty thirteen when the village of miami chores issued a ban against vegetable gardens in front yards well what's the reason behind that roseanne uncensored properties audio they believe that people should be able to come in by a whole laid on some grass flip it and sell it for more money that's what they considered okay well you why did the village council think it was bad for property values to put vegetables in the front yard because they're short sighted lower onic because they do not understand what value is to them value is money not a lifestyle not preserving butterflies knees in sick the legacy of their children and grandchildren they don't consider that the offending value why couldn't you grow vegetables in the back of your home and you're back on the lead lap yard is to the north so most of the backyard shaded they did so i have no way of growing the these things in the backyard and that's why i thought the fungicide how did this multi year fight against this ruling hearty affect you personally personally i became stress then he'll get you to the point where i couldn't be in the garden anymore i spent most of ton and the hospital surgeries stephen major health issues you know totally took only it'll the fun in the healing that i get from a garden how the miami shores van pelt through multiple appeals said that you made why didn't you just give opposite we making you sick so hard what did you think they had no right and it fonzie eightplus folly it was nuts and just say something stupid as you cannot have the female lined up front and you cannot have the males that that there's no food the foot and you know it's like having a saudi arabia of a garden where the woman female the beer off the food stays but it's just like i don't like stupid you were actually told you can't plant any plants that are considered female in the front of your home well that's one of the statements that were made in in a deposition by the cold inspector they named the off the plot but i did not bring forward fruit it could stay as long as you could eat something from the garden you cannot have it in front yard but you one eventually by helping to get the state much changed yeah because someone at a higher level realize that this is all nonsense when someone someone who invented they're losing their front yard someone was wise you know the see the body healthy arguments will by the lower court and a little on the village and i'm very grateful for that so it wasn't just he'll patient stressful impatience look celebration i hope you can get out and enjoy you're you're garden and and share it with all the creatures but you tell us about hoping to because that's where i did all my healing and it is very healing touch into their own watching they butterflies watching the losers watching the bees you know it's it's very healing i wish more people would take the time to do that well thanks to you now maybe more people can yes hopefully people will get rid of their grass on go their own vegetables and foods i stopped ways in which shipped in from god it for new disney had shipped in from any it's like a few said well what do you make it sound very good and i'm i'm glad you get to enjoy your garden thank you thank you bye bye her mind wreckage on her husband had been fighting a ban on front yard vegetable gardens in the village of miami shores were six years now and you florida law has come into effect protect gardeners from those local ben we reached misery kids in miami shores florida an whitcomb says the uk effort to leave you are akin to be emancipation patient of enslaved people the former conservative minister turned brexit party member of the european parliament made the remarks earlier today during her maiden speech in brussels she began speech by attacking you for the way it appointed leaders and said wait into some seriously eyebrow raising uses metaphor it's a great honor to speak on behalf of the largest single policy in this place i may i say that i if needed any convincing a tool that the best thing for britain is to leave hair is sooners multiple it with the way the elections were conducted yesterday because they pay sign democracy then that is a serious betrayal of every country that is represented here because it is no democrat and he got old and that is just one of many reasons and it's why britain is rocked to be leaving this place hopefully all in the halloween and it is right be calls berries up past him consistent throughout history all the press people taunting only oppresses slaves like i said i've noticed that peasantry against the funeral bathrooms he's missed the shot again saturday i'm all eyes on why is leaving it doesn't matter which way you used we are going to be going and whitcomb is one of twenty nine breakfast candidates elected to european parliament in may in the video of her speech many of her fellow party members could be seen smiling and nodding in agreement european parliament the european parliament cheap representative in brexit negotiation says this would commit giving her party leader nigel farage quote stiff competition is chief clown unquote in she and her john sterling diamond probably seemed like forever thirty years mr sterling had called every single new york yankees game on the radio in all that time he hasn't missed a single pitch and he hasn't missed a single pun but today mr sterling is on the bench he's been feeling under the weather this week so he'll be sitting up tonight game against the tampa bay rays depending on who you ask that mean fans will either be missing out on or release a break from his famously outrageous home run calls pitch to judge swung on their goes right judgy and do a live here on the show today by iran to low hits gay man of troy homers you're right roddick no not don't know frazier version of love bill saying his father yankees win oh you're just a small taste of john sterling swing for the fences commentary in new york yankees games over the years tonight the radio announcer sitting out his first game in three decades you've been listening to these as it happens podcast our show can be heard monday to friday on cbc radio one sirius xm following the world six you can also listen to the whole show on the web you just go to cbc dot ca slash eighty eight and follow the link to our online archive thanks for listening i'm susan bonner about karen go

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"They they're ralph garman here thanks so much for checking out this free edition of the ralph report if you like what you hear do me a favor subscribe to the ralph report so we could put some fun in your ears five days a week and you could listen for as little as three dollars a month so so subscribe today so you don't miss out on any of the fun go to patriotic dot com slash the rappaport and sign up welcome to ralph well they're boys and girls unhappy modern day maybe there's nothing happy about it monday is the day where you gotta go back to work usually most doing stuff we don't wanna do plus he upside there's a brand new ralph report three audio enjoyment thank you so much for joining us today i of course enrolled podcast powell ralph garman as sitting here in the back with me once again is the first lady of the rappaport the lovely the talented kariya's here we're good day everyone thanks so much ridge sitting in once again absolutely kerry sitting in of course really vice host mr eddie pence because he is still on vacation with his family and will be so throughout the remainder of this week as we get towards the fourth of july my holiday weekend yes i'm ever so worried about that family thing i keep seeing little snippet of the pence's on their trip end and the last one i saw his son had his head inside of a cannon yeah some people took eddie the task for on his parenting skills saying you can't let your child stick his head and he had the business end of a cannon to a chatty responded well you know it wasn't a museum piece we didn't really think loaded or anything no real danger there miller insane speaking of eddie's trip he did send us a little a video of spending some time down south and the culture shock there in so will be putting that up on patriot later today for you two three and four star general that excitable bona's video content for you've courtesy of the vice host good show for you guys today the guest today a woman named cat crusted up is eight alternately horrifying and yet ultimately inspiring story of an amazingly talented lady cat credited known to many of you already especially if you're a maybe a disney fan if you're like the disney parks she is the voice of the black widow bride which would be first only character added to the haunted mansion ride in disneyland land an disney world since they creation of those right craft she's the new greg character and winning fame air yes one of my favorite ride so she's also of course a dd from textures laboratory very talented voice over actress and we talked her today about thee illness that not only almost robbed her of her career but robbed her of her life yeah almost robbed her of her life and then on the other side of that be the nightmare that was the recovery and dealing with doctors that insurance companies stuff that everyone should know just in case you ever have the deal where they catastrophic illness how hard it can be to navigate those waters right let's also after you're done listening to that interview any part of the day that you're having that field battered depressing i think were suddenly seemed like i ain't that the truth so that'll make you a mandate that are a little perspective when you hear somebody who's had real problems vs whatever it is you may be going through all that unusual nonsenses well but before we go anywhere the first thing we like to do here on robert ford is reach out to you guys the gummy we love it the here we love to hear from you whether it's say a an email or social media let's kick things off with the email we don't do this much anymore we used to do a lot of emails step it must be believed the voicemail however this one is for the first lady and so i thought it'd be appropriate to open up that garbage letter back i don't need to worry about no no no listen to spray above god this one comes from kapiti ramirez editors addressed to kerry kerry hi how are you she says the other day you mentioned you used a little weed to help you sleep she said i've i've dabbled in both cbd anti hce stouffer sleep and i can't find one that works would you mind sharing the one that works for you thanks so much love you mean it by kathy ramiro so cathy like you has a hard time sometimes letting the day go and relaxing in gig falling asleep in yuban using pot as sort of a medicinal sleep aid for some time now right well first of all let me tell you how much i enjoy talking about drugs to talk about the new segment pop talk with kerry oh no not just plowed talking about oh drugs already started a believer in farmers a yeah well so for me a you know sleeping a trouble started when we lost her son an it just kept right on going it's 'em you're body get into a rhythm that it can't get out of and sometimes you have to kind of tricky it or give it a signal to know when it's time to sleep so i want it off of i could not sleep without sleeping pills and literally with beholden to sleeping pills and i think they're addicted and i want it off of that so i decided to go this is before potluck legalized in the state of california i decided to go to a doctor and get a prescription for an i did try cbd be oil first it did not work for me i either kathy so i then decided to garage await to a vape pen threats and if you go into a medicinal marijuana let's door and tell them what you're looking for they will make a recommendation and i think i've purchased the same sort of oil from three different you know outlet outlets and it's all the same it all works great end so you tell them that you want one first sleep andrew maybe tell them that you know it depends on how sensitive you are i'm pretty sensitive stuff you give me really strong marijuana it just you know knock them about which i don't mean i just need to call read your the way you just wanna right and then i also have another one for pain for when i get 'em like my monthly's and i get cramped i have one which also works great an also some topical work really good for sore muscles and things but i have to tell you that cbd i think is good for be random feeling a panic here and there like if you have high level anxiety it fermi does not work for sleep okay so i'm i would upgrade to an oil 'em andrew recommend vaping i recommend vaping although if you wanna inhale you know do that to a joy for me i'm lazy and i liked to vape in bed before i fall sleep which i can do but i'm not allowed to light up the huge dooby while i'm lying in bed and make the whole house not like hot know somebody that i love with doesn't like that i wanna smell like kevin smith south right though so so you don't know exactly what kind you're you're vaping you got just a recommendation from the from the forms emulated their their answer is very popular strains out there you know as i said no you don't you don't walk and in after a string you need to walk in and say i need some sort of situation not too strong and i'll get it so they go kathy recommendation is go to local dispensary i'm assuming kathy is writing from southern california but if you're not goto place so legally i mean slowly but surely were creeping the way across the country where this ridiculous prohibition against marijuana is starting to lift it although olive are you know listeners from different parts of the world they're still style i know it's crazy poor people in britain can't get their hands on anything so find yourself a dispensary go in there as the people behind the counter who usually are very well versed on different airing down all the time yet but they're even more eager to talk about pop and kariya's and they will absolutely hook you up on something and a track kathy and let us know how it works rio 'cause we loved you know if it's a success story or you're not but things were writing in kerry appreciate the email you can always reach us here at the airport at ralph at the ralph report dot com you could like steve or eddie at their names and then at the ralph report dot com as well and if you have anything for kerry just send it on into me at ralph's the rappaport dot com and i will pass it along to her and she reads most dumb anyway 'cause he's in there for business reasons all the tax write another way you can reach us of course is by leaving a voicemail twenty four hours a day seven days a week the voice mail is available to you the leave us a message if you care to it's very simple you just gotta call the ralph report hotline that phone number is one eight three three love you guys i listen to each and every one of those messages and then i grab a handful of and then i particularly like and then we slop a mirror on the front of the show in a segment called got me on the line phone is ringing i mean not at all not surprisingly only lots of phone calls left on the ralph report hotline for the first lady as well when kerry comes on the show people get turned on the big bad way they love hearing from her they love happened to participate on the shows we have a lot of phone pound like they had connects loud speaking of being turned on tim from australia called in about carries bell you know she's got a bell the here the only a console that when she finds a man or woman particularly attractive she gives them the belgian signify their sexual that's right a tim called day with a comment about the bell will carry the team from a satellite sell the stralia four star general here were undecided kerry a very ring my bell any or all oh that's a hell regrows you got their ten but you but you know what he sounds says you can't ever sent me to australia i think i might go crazy with the tenants yes it's kind of like how you are with british women running british woman access to ruling it's just so powerful it's ridiculous yeah yeah i feel that way about eight tip you know what i'm giving him a bell oh ten you burned about gradual ain't got her dad also the magic of audio medium by the way which is and heard about who knows what tim looks like in real life but just the mental picture the theater of the mind does recall i love that you know we should we should we should have a contest we should take i don't know where this is coming from i don't i don't know where to go and they're not they're not going to a good place but i we should take pictures of each year bombs you see an eddie and then everybody do a survey and see if they can guess who is who i have no desire to put a picture of my ass pass out there into the i don't know why that link i you know what we need are you stones now as a matter of fact may be a little another australian called in once again for kerry once again about her bill last week we were talking about tom holland who's the brand new spiderman he got a bell tobey maguire old school spiderman a caring no buried in see that for him here's brent call ralph cary grant melvin 'em gary very openly said the time you didn't wanna give a bill to tobey maguire does that mean that he got the nobel prize all right now i did tell you though the i need a sound effect for non bells when i have a strong sort of feeling about someone who is not attractive i need in non bell okay y'all or like a buzzer or i need something so you want that someone yeah unattractive winter we could use that the bell first of all i need everybody to know that rally there that you have access to all the buttons and i get not adding i see what we get no fun listen lady an eddie an steve there can only be one driver of the bus okay in order for the pasta get where it's going there's gotta be one guy behind the wheel you're not you don't give a steering wheel the everybody that's in the passenger seat oh let's all just driving a kid after high or that's not a high horse it's just a fact of life you need one guy one guy has the model bell and a buzzer you got abella ready all right what do you want mel buzzer yeah making what if they let you i'll tell you what don't give me anything i'm gonna go find went on my own get one of those clown horns her one of those things i'm gonna don't you worry you have this highly highly automated panel of thing ever i literally have eight bell and i'm gonna go get myself a non i'm gonna go find it or whatever you won't believe how many non i'm gonna do to has very eclectic taste oh we know now end very strong opinions and here's the thing it's all been lollipops and rainbows for you today with everybody porn their level overview because you sit there and the second chair i'll have you know when you take the responsibility of sitting in that second chair it's not all laurels and rose petals certainly when you when you have a strong opinion you will get people who disagree with you and you will have some people whose feathers have been russell who come at you a little bit i got a couple of those phone calls to how this is his from louis louis is calling from the uk last week kerry mentioned how she doesn't like dog shows how she's alpha dog show that's trail well now you're in for here's louis louis i have faith that they would say would you imaging j m as somebody that shows jokes with my wife which is why should clarify it you know our dog certainly love it misfire they know they just perhaps around right now and they got loads of trades at the end of it you know we we absolutely adored our dog sleep on the bed with the trade about children basically a under the most by ratio crashed and what you may just be loved so you did what you think and that way you treat the show world way absolutely loving today there are people that way matt kennels and we avoid those times the most part we would never do anything that the dog is they didn't want to show people there you go nothing but love from the owners for the dog and the dog show world well he was very clearly state that it's not everybody know what i'm saying all he seems to know that world and he had most of them love their dogs very much treat them as pets and the dog seemed to have a good time is that part i agree wet and also the other good thing i think is that the dogs that participate in the dog shows seemed have a high level of confidence confident unlike are dog we let him go out front when we check the mailbox wraps his tail between his legs and then mom it he acts like the world is filled with lions and tigers and bears omar even are own properties terrify terrifying yeah so weenie anyway okay well that wasn't too bad i'm still standing all right how about this one then travis called in he also has a bone to pick with you either pay ralph guilty pleasure travis four star general from arizona i am having the first lady kerry on the ralph report these last few days but she really ruffled feathers on friday gary garment i'm sorry weird al yankovic has more talent then sammy hagar system okay love you made it by fighting words well let me tell you that i love you because you're a four star john i love the four star general selma yes 'cause they keep the lights on they keep the lights on an i am you know i i spend a lotta time in jerking in interacting with a four star general having said that you suck my left nipple because weird al yankovic it is not more talented than sammy hagar yeah first of all yankovic 'cause you're you're blowback for that but second of all there's a lot of weird out of that and you were you were you were speaking ill of weird out so we got a lot of i don't know now rican also this one came from i'm assuming a tasers although he he says he's jesus on the phone and if it is jesus indeed i'm super proud the jesus listens to this show me tail but he has some questions about a certain event that's coming up this month hi rough jesus here from the outright california and i'm wondering the lucky few bastard serious copy opportunity dakota comecon this year for five days and one of the get enough data to see if you actually planning be oxnard comecon this year whether it be doing a panel or maybe possibly the russell porn hopefully or even a year and kevin smith socially verbally one so yeah i can we get an update seaside you plan to be out they're 'cause i'll be out there and i will do what i can to be out there to see you guys how mb thank you so much for asking jesus slash hey seuss i can't believe jesus lives in del ray i had no idea not choice yeah not quite jerusalem not del ray 'em here's what happened with comecon this year i had resigned myself to the fact that i would not be attending comecon this year because i only go to comecon well when i get tickets and the only reason i could ever get tickets before is because usually i was working down there as i did i've done a ton of moderating panels over the years and they are kind enough to invite me down to the duty a the panel but i also get tickets for the event and sometimes i'd go the parties and stuff it's always a blast this is the first year where i wasn't asked to participate now now usually i also go down to do a show with kevin smith we do a hollywood babylon down there each year this year also due to contractual obligations on smith spark he was not allowed to do at hollywood babylon show within ninety miles other comecon 'cause he was doing another game so i had no job and i had no babylon so i had really no reason at no way to go down there to go to the to the comecon so i resigned myself but it wasn't gonna happen well of course life being the way it is just when you think you what's gonna happen something else comes your way and i'm not allowed to talk about it yet but someone did reach out and ask me to participate in an event down there at comecon this year so it turns out last minute i will be attending comecon this year i'll be down there wednesday and thursday in a probably some of friday days well so has what's gonna happen i don't know how it how it involves the garment here's an interesting idea though it turns out eddie pence is going to be down there that weekend doing stand up so i haven't talked eddie this all happened after he left on vacation but perhaps there's a way we can cobble together either a meet up or if we could find a venue maybe do a live report i don't know but i will it'd be like a smaller version of the live show 'cause i will be we actually in england when i start will see that's right so wouldn't be the full crew it would just be a pension myself if we were to do is show i'm assuming most of the venues already booked up 'cause there's a lot of stand up comedians who were down therefore panels and things things like that and they liked to book a gig when they're in town so likelihood of doing a show not so high however we could maybe pence and i could maybe do a meet and greet at one of the hotels lonelier something if you like i can look into seeing if there are any open then 'em spots at some of the smaller venues we haven't we haven't looked at that and then we have but i haven't talked to eddie eddie yet either disci well gig fragile is so i thought i would talk to him first before i started moving forward if he's working every night then you're down point so anyway the answer question i don't have any specific story but it looks like i will be down there and will try to organize something so that whatever gummy members are interesting we could all get together and had a hawk tail and the meter tried drink yeah how the drink we will see what happens and lastly dan called in i think we've got a new segment i love it when these a recurring segment sort of grow organically out if something comes up on the show and it happened last week with carrion i we were talking about the beatles having recording a couple of singles in german and then we talked about the monkeys releasing their single in italian and it's starting to be about artists to have performed recorded in other languages and this may be thing anyway dan called in with this call hey ralph and carry it is dan in atlanta on friday show you played he monkeys and italian in the beatles in german 'em were you aware of that market type on did two episode of the flying circus for german television in german a monty python league in desert did some of the old sketches and a did a couple of news catches one of which makes it out every single time i dunno where you're bertha new segment here about weird translation so there you go well dan i had no idea that monty python had done two episodes of television in german for german audiences but i looked it up and they did their recorder to to full episodes of comedy and that's outsmart the python guys are they performed comedy in they foreign language remain credibly difficult but they're bright guys and they did a lot of their famous sketch is translated into the german including one of my favorites which is the lumberjack jack sketch where michael palin says what he really wants to be the lumberjack and he goes into the classic lumberjack song starts off very macho about i got down trees i eat my lunch and it's it goes on lumberjack and i'm okay and then by the end of the song you talked about how he likes to put on a women's clothing and hang around the bars property it's that it's very funny how translated the chairman takes on a whole new level of comedy here's marty pythons lumberjack song in german been nine hong remain strong some is not talk to do that one saggio no one saw that the beautiful like written it a so yeah i think we have a new segment weaken translated bits of famous pop culture in other i think that would be really fun that everybody who called in you to be featured on gummy on the line but you gotta take that first step you gotta call me our a non starter murray and you now as we do every mundane now we take a look at the calendar that hangs you're on the bat cave wall we find out what holidays are associated with this day of the year everyday six on three hundred sixty five days a year their holidays associated a on mondays we take a look at the date july first by the way it's already july what happened in june this year is just whizzing by a monday july first this are the holidays associated with they will let you know whether we agree with america in a segment called holiday holiday all day or hall in please tell me why we re round a day is national postal worker day postal workers get a bad rap because they do some of them go crazy and shoot stuff up but he really having heard about that in a while it not for a while we've heard about people going into the post offices in shooting things that but they're not necessarily the postal workers in south near but going postal there was a thing for awhile remember that is the thing for a while and i will i will say that i do not like are posts man he's not the devices so he's not the friendliest end you know at one point i decided i didn't wanna have a big mailbox out on are curb yeah so i had are gardener take it all out and take it down and then i put a smaller more attractive copper plated mailbox on the wall their front door you would have thought that i had murdered somebody but he didn't like it i did it without a permit yeah he was screaming at me because i didn't have a permit and it i didn't appreciate it and now the mailbox clearly is too small for him so he gets upset if he can't get magazines and and he just throws everything on the ground which is fine with me i just pick it up but he's he's grumpy however postal workers have a hard game when you think about it they average postal worker walks four to eight miles a day carrying eight full load of letters and packages good it it's it's a lot of work though when you think about it and they go through any kind of temperature any kind of weather extreme heat and cold rain blizzards i mean you don't get that too much in southern california but around the rest of anything i mean he's out there and hurting trump degree heat that three yeah in an uptick tufted so on this day we salute the numerous men and women who work consistently diligently to deliver all of her mouth kerry agrees a not coincidentally today's also national usa postage stamp day because it was on this day july first first in eighteen forty seventy first postage stamp okay was really how much did at postage stamp hot it doesn't say here but i can't imagine it was very much but did you know when they start issuing stamps initially they weren't required the male male something you could still put something in the mail but then the person at the other end who is receiving would have to pay the postman the postage at a cost to deliver that so they they usually fell on the receiver more so than the center taxes we pay the postage lalla that's not in eighteen forty seven you didn't need a stamp up by eighteen fifty five postage stamp became manager you couldn't male anything at hang out it and also a they decided in nineteen thirteen that you could no longer a male children in the mail because james beagle who was a just under the weight limit of eleven pounds in nineteen thirteen four repackage was mailed at the cost of fifteen cents to his grandmother mother who lives just a few miles away and then postmaster general decided a pass say a strict regulations so you could no longer right melby she was a creative thinker and basically got him a free ride grandma's house grandma now they're fifteen cent yeah exactly okay still can't see the logic behind what do i know so well yeah absolutely post we liked stamps stamps good rent a it's also national creative ice cream flavors day what fuck that let me tell you something i'll let me tell you some now let me tell you something i think i would literally rather lick eight damp then lick ice cream i know you're not ice cream fan really you you you can participate i'm not going to i'm i'm not gonna ever did but i am not a fan of this new fancy saying now where we have have creative flavors of ice cream exotic flavors of ice cream yeah it is nothing wrong with the flavors of ice cream that we've had for hundreds of years they worked just fine fine there's a new ice cream shop at the corner of ventura boulevard in laurel canyon i can't remember what it's called anyway they have all sorts of crazy flavor joe crazy that i took a livia in there and she took one look at the menu and said hard pass yeah 'cause it's garbage cans lavender list yet mashed potato ice cream now you're ice cream olive oil ice cream yes good buffalo wing ice cream gumy's ice cream jalapeno ice cream candied bacon ice cream there's no need for any of this bullshit okay there's nothing wrong with chocolate and vanilla and at the continent pistachio and all this flavors we've been eating for hundreds of years he has great lift that no one ever taste the buffalo wing ice cream and goes you know what i am all this is my new favorite flavor of ice cream i need that each that's all there is one good reason to have all of these crazy flavors that so that we could make eddie try that that's true should end we are scale i have now put it on the list of potential there enough in his absence volunteer hemp the try jalapeno ice cream goddamn makes me nuts so worried that the creative ice cream flavors day and it's also national ginger snap day nope ginger ginger snap cookies made from molasses closed ginger cinnamon brown sugar a if the healthiest cookie there is you know i understand that because all the things that in there are good for you first of all it usually has less sugar and lower calories in any other cookie because they used molasses and brown sugar as opposed refined sugar but the ginger the cinnamon the clothes are all antiinflammatories a they lower of the glucose in your bloodstream ginger helps digestion clove actually helps prevent all diseases and headaches lots of good stuff in this okay all right and in philadelphia is a huge commissioner on halloween time there's two bakeries that have been battling this out for a hundred years in philadelphia at halloween they released their limited edition they call spice waivers but they're basically basically ginger snaps and i was thinking my father and i think it ginger snaps he would just sit down in front of the evening news with the box open an account currency and just go nuts that's not really yearly event at are how so a little bit more about the ginger all right all right here we go back tipper today's holiday holiday but my my pain on any other day we may not take a look at all be entertained the news with ed segment i called the showbiz beach on monday as we take a look at all the box office numbers and see what people when seat in theaters over the weekend let me guess okay you win number one at the box it's gotta be nice for flick you know what we talked about that last week and i thought that was gonna be number one but i forgot about the juggernaut the came up a week before but i thought about it probably would still be at the top of the charts and still is okay toy story four all right still number one at the box office in its second week made fifty seven point nine additional millions billion a leash jesus marian jester that's a lot of money it isn't a annabel comes home as we mentioned with number two with twenty points three million which were a low budget horror film like that is still a pretty good money yesterday the beatles movie came in at number three with seventeen million dollars aladdin was a nine point three million dollars richer this weekend that made a number for the secret life of pets to came in at number five than men in black international avengers endgame and its release child's play rocket man and john wick chapter three came in at number ten this weekend hey wholesome family movies in the top ten indeed speaking of wholesome families how about this mama june honey booboo situation is this something else you know i i do not know the latest so you're gonna have to tell us what has happened well people concerned for honey boo boos welfare have stepped in and they have now really taking legal action she's already out of the house she's now living with her sister pumpkin user names like fucking he haw with his family now a but now wars have stepped in an they are moving honey boo boos money out of v account so mama june can't have any access to hankers mama june now under new boyfriend are smoking crack cocaine bending every other day at the casinos playing slot and so they don't want her dipping into honey boo boos money and then the kid ends up broke after being freed show on television for all those years and have nothing to show for it right so she's living with her sister right now pumpkin cnn they're trying to make sure the money is safeguarded and so pumpkin will have access says the honey boo boos money so that she could provide her with the the bare essentials and then probably not gonna go well i either well apparently the the the nineteen year olds pretty respond shade yeah she's the one in the family nineteen how many kids so she had already been just to okay all right so she's facing it out slowly mama june a you know she and her boyfriend gino were busted in alabama crack cocaine possession and she is seeing the casinos all all the time who could have seen this coming but this family who would you gave him a bunch of money in spain end their own shot and their own show that they would go up that now that they would go off the rails irresponsible hillbilly redneck pigs fuckers and not be responsible with their money and their children i'm shocked per one no one could see this coming no one except everyone you're only people got casey yeah right where a this is great stars in our lining up defy just it'd be which i think is great who do we have beaver famously called out tom cruise yeah it'd be octagon by submitting that may well dana white the head of usc's says he has heard from people in both camps and there is actually interesting okay doesn't mean it's any closure actually happening but apparently conversations being okay but other stars are saying if it doesn't happen please consider me and one of those is steve oh yeah of course carefully from a johnny knoxville they'll show right jackass and he said that he wants to fight justin bieber so stars in our just volunteering he said that he was actually quite upset but he wasn't considered initially other beaver didn't call him out he went the dana white and he said said if it doesn't happen please consider me to get into the ring with justin bieber he said look tom cruise is fifty six i'm forty five so i'm still older the bieber would be similar but he would like to get into the ring and take a shot at beaver and i say yes he any entertaining to watch absolutely any said there's no way beaver could knock him out because he's taken a beating his whole life isn't fair he's been blown up in grown up at the end of inducing getting right back that he knows how to take a beating this is a fascinating story i had no idea kevin costner didn't interview last week where he said there had been talks about doing eight bodyguard to of course bodyguard was hugely successful movie with costner and whitney houston yes she played a singer and he was as you could imagine by the title her bodyguard and the studio is very interested in doing eight sequel and they decided to have v a client instead of being eight entertainment personality they're like what used and they thought it'd be it'd be interesting if she had been a royal adam clayton really our royal and he would be bodyguards for it royal either visiting the united states or something like that would be the storyline okay and he said he was in conversations with princess diana before her death about costarring with him in bodyguard who knew he said the conversations were facilitated by sarah ferguson former duchess of you were who had made a story is now losing credibility who had a relationship not relationship but she she knew costner a little bit so he was able to go through saturday get contact to princess diana and he said he had conversations with diana on the phone about the possibility of them working together as you said you were absolutely i always respect sarah because she was the one that set up the conversation with me in diana he said and he said she was incredibly sweet on the phone and she asked a lot of questions about the script like are we going to have like kissing scene she said in very nervous way and i said yeah there's gonna be a little bit of that but we could make that okay and so apparently i mean i i don't know how close they got to entertain the idea of actually shooting this film but there were conversations had and then shortly thereafter for she died in the harassing horrible accident but i thought can you imagine the international success of that film had princess diana start in net would have just been been huge and she was the most beloved yes a public figure in the world at navy meghan markle she wants to latch what's the two bodyguard to yeah it looks today celebrity birthdays all these stars born on this date july first singer evelyn champagne king wannabe a legendary divas just go heiress so many hits late seventies early eighties she's fifty nine years old today here's my thing oh just makes you wanna drink champagne do cocaine okay yeah it does make me happy fifty four right there actress olivia dabble in one of the legendary leading lady the screen for bar back in the thirties and forties i always remember her has made marian in oakland movie adventures of robinhood when my favorite movies when she has one hundred and three today why why is that that's amazing i hope actor jamie i hope the healthy honored and having an amazing time after jamie farr of course was clinger springer unmatched she's eighty five years old actor david prowse who was be body underneath the costume of darth vader and all those star wars films you eighty four years old today eighty oh yeah he's a former bodybuilder just still in pretty good shape pretty solid guy singer victor willis is sixty eight years old today he is best known as the founding member of the disco group village people oh yeah victor actually was the voice of the village people they released two singles and singles became so popular they had to build eight band around him so they could go into or interesting and so they put an ad in the paper and said we need macho man must have mustache must be able to sing and move and that's when they got the rest the guys who flushed down the village be got the union in the construction represent those costumes would not be okay these days he was either policemen naval officer when they were doing it yeah i mean they were very stereotypical say funny thing is victor willis not gay straight great musician just a songwriter and they built the gay icon ick band around round anyway he is the heck i think he was married to a foolish overshot who is a bill cosby's wife when they were married for a long time and now he's got a second way but he's sixty eight years old so many choices when it comes to what village people saw you wanna play of course why and i get up and take that i didn't want anyone for a deeper cuts out in the navy which i would enjoy but this one this will get you pumped up this'll get you're working out at the gym right this year but you drought or macho woman sure come on you're question how i should post a picture of me deadly you do rock the way you move some i everybody could be that women in be macho to accident ackroyd is sixty seven years old today legendary and dairy member of snl and the blues brothers actor alan rock from ferris buehler's day off and spin city is sixty three andre brower from brooklyn nine nine is fifty seven years old today fred schneider of the b fifty two's sixty wow i got all the way down by john me why why don't you can't be on happy be listening to be fifty two you literally cannot physically impossible unless they talk about macho man fred schneider right there is a macho man i was fortunate to recordings album of covers where he's these things famous song but only the way the french medicine will be so entertaining that would be wonderful beatles song by i find myself in another man comes to me that it may have just joined fred schneider famous on on the french actress pamela anderson fifty two years old today she's got a lot of problems that she was dating that the french soccer player in that relationship all blew up and gone a monster now in social media she he goes and takes a decent men but she still hot by the end she forgets about yeah absolutely accurate henry simon's from marvel's agents shield plays mac of course on that show and he was on n y pd blue is well i got him a little bit i cannot recall what he looked like you if you knew what he looked like he would absolutely give it a try now rainy african american man who looks like he lives in a gym okay yeah i'm gonna give him a rock seattle dang their way down years old okay any my age said ad libbed tyler is forty two years now about yeah she's lovely of course the way talented actress well man her in that thing you do still one of my favorite ones but you love that love that bill to watch that one more now now i can't it never gets old watched it like this time not enough i need fifty more at least 'em but she's also the daughter of course the steven tyler had a lesser dough from specter bond girl those thirty four years old today and one of my all time crushes singer debra harissa the band blondie is seventy four when blondie exploded on the scene would be perfect combination of sex appeal and great hooks and great musicians blondie still one of my favorite bands this is my favorite blondie of old song of all time okay let's hear it not one of their biggest hits off but do yourself a favor and listen to this in its entirety of his play a little bit here more than i played most officers got another i didn't know when the stop okay it's called dreaming and the drumming here bike lemberg by the way is insane sexiest hell here's my favorite song by blondie and it'll be the team to the state of oregon you'll be able to to be in a time nah i know that you know that you've done that one tonight the l a because they yeah all right i believe that you know that but i might also be blowing your mind i'm looking forward to it either way okay either one of these guitarist or the drummer from laundy lives across the street from us in that corner how yet a he is be guitarist i believe okay not chris diamond major singer songwriter who worked with the debris hurry in the band but he's he's still look you're acting like the same haircut everything eighties hair good drives in muscle car for deal life of me i don't understand why you're not hovering around out in front of his house trying to make friends with him you guys could walk down to the speakeasy us house drink i should make a morbid ever stopped him as he could you just stop in jeopardy more jeffrey dean morgan we left behind us never never met him you never closed the deal while i was there i was doing my part i know i'm just the may i say i'm surprised that you haven't been over there trying to i will i will stop a little blondie action on it that you know i will definitely weird somebody out of neighborhood by lingering hopped in the car and blondie at denver harry screeching athen you're saying like hey do hi carla hearing on the street here yeah all right that the today celebrity birthdays corrupt government i walked the showbiz be hey there it's ralph garman here i hope you're enjoying the show and if you are why not subscribed to the rap reports you can hear it every day monday through friday for just fifteen cents a day you could be one star general supporter and that will get you the show in your ear holes monday through friday of course there are two three and four star general levels is well which gets you more bonus content more access to me so if you like what you're hearing why not subscribe go to patriotic dot com slash the ralph report that p h t r e o n dot com slash the report subscribed today so you don't miss a thing and now it's time for part one of my interview with cat crested a she is a remarkable lady not only a huge talent as i mentioned earlier in the show but what she has been through and and how she has bounced back from aisha up a horrible bout with cancer and then even worse sometimes what saves you is as bad as the illness itself she went through radiation in tremendous surgery what's left at one point in the story you will hear with a hole in the side of her head from where they had to take the tumor out and trying to be a professional in entertainment business and dealing with reconstructive surgeries and radiation all that stuff it's amazing how she has come out on the other side of this break any interview up the chew parts so part one will be today come on back report to tomorrow here is the first part of my conversation with cat crusted a cat crafted a thank you so much for joining me today is my listeners of course no you as dd from texters laboratory tori disney fans or my friends who i lovingly called the pass holes to go regularly and are often seen at their favorite ride which is the haunted mansion you are of course the black widow and an actress is one of the voice over actress such a pleasure to have you thank you so much for having me anything gratulations by the way in the disney thing i touched on that real quickly you are how how long have they been before they made in addition to that ride in terms of a voice actors had been a long time yeah that that is one of the i think most disney won't called and what you call them but i still get my paychecks on the mouse but they annual pass holders well no that a the two classic rise of of course pirates of the caribbean in the hunt man changer an a and both of them are in the to classic parks in in america and they had not touched them since nineteen well pirates win in earlier but a mansion officially opened in nineteen sixty nine all the voice according to not in nineteen sixty seven sixty eight fantastic voices like paul freeze yeah sure they're all ravenscroft just the bomb andrew left untouched and fabulous until two thousand early two thousands they they replaced some stuff in pirates of the caribbean run put jack sparrow in there and since that was a big success and people didn't you know a lot of their yeah exactly since since people were big fans were okay with the with the changes in upgrades aids then they went to the mansion in the attic which should always been sort of this pass through you went from the ballroom which was fabulous to the graveyards in an attic was always just kind of a big empty and so they went in and did this whole story with her so two thousand six so she hasn't been updated for the mansion been updated for fifty years and so you know sorry i'm not even forty years forty years when i did that so huge honor yeah yeah so some of the greats is you mentioned credit one who's who inspired me to go into voiceover really very surreal oh yeah i mean i grew up in the parks my dad worked with imagineering in no way how cool so i used to bring the disney good firm worried about oh my god yes i'm try cd of anything so number they'll taper court you have one monster fabulous about memorabilia internet yeah i mean you could just you could retire in just had the story but a number those little black recorders shrewsbury i used to sneak those in the park and tape record all attractions 'cause i was telling up at the place our hats hilarious and of course they had they help ease is well at least have the record's with all the systems that will elevate alon yeah sure storytelling and not only does you relationship with disney stop there but you've also done some work as jesse is well from toy story for them as well so i'm very honored whenever a went after wonderful down it's not available i think do you think say 'em you started off as a as an actress right before you got a divorce over you were just a television film that sort of thing just a actually lottery joe no i know i know such i much that i consider you know everyone else just and i that's very gracious of you i'm actually started out as an agent a way yup rumble it is strange bizarre usually if it goes that way at all three other way round totally 'em i trained my entire life and a musical comedy in shakespeare end had done like i think i was discovered on the playground in second grade and did some modeling for children's catalogues clothing hated it complained that that that i support and i hated it so that ended my modeling career at age seven and a and then what's really just driven on shakespeare and musical comedy all through you see berkeley and then had a very bizarre existential moments at graduation where i went i don't think i could hack it as an actor well i went inter agency a made it into the william morris mythological mail room back when it still was the past greatness olitical and it was amazing it was incredible fraternity sort of a culture that i learned so much from an m i mean it's the old fashioned you know you're you're gonna fake it until you make it in work twenty hours a day in well i loved it so and then after three years of that went should go in the acting maybe i'm not cut out for deep in insane amount of debt just momentum that's required to be successful as as you know one of the big three agency right so yeah that's what i did and then when did you get into voice work with the early two thousands in why start taking workshops on do you know that story that has 'cause that's bizarre so i trained in shakespeare run an back in the seventies which i know you can relate to and i was taught i fell in love with jeff rallies 'em romeo and juliet and taming of the shoe do you remember those shirts and michael york where a and also from logan's run first band the three musketeers on you i love these are my audience that badly exposition from your salary exactly exactly a it's it's really i mean it's amazing when people have a second you know sort of a second wave of their careers were now the younger people identify and i'm like no separately romeo anyway i had worshiped him andy other you know young actors that were all part of zephyr rallies movie troop in a i ended up playing his inappropriately too young fiance on a pilot for daily own firm must see tv room and we ended up in a bad set for three days while they were camera blocking her me in michael york end he was the first one who basically said if you love of acting and you love shakespearean you love where it's maybe you should try voice over and i was like oh really what's that like i had no idea back then this was in the mid to late nineties right that it was at an actual career career career rare now i i talk about a bunch of of voice artist on the show and it's really the advent of the internet allowed people to really understand what the business is because you naturally find out who does the voices of you're favorite characters but up until then it was like this mystery you know cartoons of things we just appear and no one really knew who is behind except for mel blanc in a couple of big names acting in a what would you first gig is a voice artist you remember first round gonna date myself oh you're sadly cdrom game really cd roger number two seconds 'em i played a fierce aero a like a navy pilots kind of a a for the navy pilot which is weird but that that was the very first gig and i didn't know what i was doing but it was fine 'cause everybody whispered is still figuring out the technology of voice over and then the second one was voice matching princess laya wow okay sorry 'em and that was amazing and a the third one was a dd taking on that cartoon network when they got picked up as a series and then after that was jesse the cowgirl a for parades and disney on ice and things like wow and then and then from so kind of went from this weird backward big stuff you know really cool not big big but you know how any animation well yeah really cool stuff and then start working my way into the mcdonald's commercials and end got really lucky with dsp in very early on and started doing stuff worthy nfl infer some of their big shows back in like early two thousands when i two thousand one two thousand two so that's kind of the beginning of it but it was a slow start i i always when i'm lucky enough to go around to use these schools colleges and talk about how you break into the as i always say it's count on three to five years of heartbreak before you really start rolling with it on and really only you know people came from radio ten sort of make an immediate transition into fucking usually right or so yeah or tom i'm still waiting for that transition about you can have it if you wine a day i've been lucky i stuff but a search like yourself who are the real deal are always impressive to me that's very sweet at let's flash forward then to twenty twelve okay and you're in the booth right and you send something's not right with three mouth which being a voice over artist would be concerned anybody hell if you're not a boy sororities it'd be a concern what what is what is the first sign of something was wrong 'em said very good question and thank you for being the first first one actually asked that question so it was it was a ashley my jaw i felt it sort of right here on when you do know you free 'em she means the microphone microphone when 'em when you do voice matching a witch's voice doubling i for any of the you know celebrities like enough voice measure you're twisting and moving your jaw and you're lips in all crazy formations for example jesse i looked like this right are shy had you know to get all of her fabulous 'isms so i was just manipulating my jaw on one of the matches in just there were just like catch there was something and it was just a little bit off in the first like twenty times i win must be a two there must be something and then started ask the questions and it was just continuously this is the way before two thousand you know just wet sort of leading up to an end but i knew i knew that i felt something and it seemed like it was getting increasingly more something and and it wasn't painful and it wasn't a scary looking on the outside but i could tell internally to the john mouth area that something not good what's going on and that was sort of the first sign i would say two thousand nine are times when i first started asking innocently you take a look this and unfortunately it just continuously got traded as oh it's just a sister don't worry about it you actors have such i remember when you actors such vivid imagination you know just really not and unfortunately all all male all males i i wonder looking back a it made just been coincidence but i wonder if it is you know maybe there may have been a different lens on it had been a female who wouldn't blow it off as you're just being a bit dramatic right but in two thousand twelve was when it had gotten is right on fourth round this time actually read fourth of july when i finally sort of put my foot down and said this is starting to get scary for me it's it's continuously there and i hope it's just my imagination that would be the best news in the world but i'd like an m ri has to be dealt with and i and i had to kind of niche for it i had to push my doctors to order them all right let's racing yeah 'em and then you get the worst possible news which is cancer and it's in an area of the body if i'm not mistaken that isn't usually you don't really find cancer there right it was unusual very very unusual and unfortunately i mean thank you you're doing a great job of of pulling the story it it didn't it wasn't diagnosis cancer immediately that was the unfortunate part i'm one of the bigger parts of my journey that that is really important for me to share with other people in that 'em after the initial several tests it kept coming back as i there a unquantifiable can't quite you know categorize everything thing in the world on it wasn't coming back as benign and it was just coming back as we can't identify in an end most again of the specialist and were talking people with several degrees behind them in place if you're fabulous batman permanently degrees from the top top medical schools and you know board of directors all kind of again saying well i wouldn't worry about it one side if i were a betting man i put all my money in vegas at this is nothing andrews referrallist are growing and it's you know ends and the truth is i wasn't you know particularly i wouldn't call myself dumb or ignorant or uneducated mhm lucky you have a degree in lucky day let's had plenty of experience at that point but still very naive the way all of us are until were faced with something personally and tragically were all sort of school to just listen to whatever the diners say and say well they know more than i do so so who am i had a question or ask for a second opinion or demand tests demanding necessary we just all like sheep go along and you have to be responsible for your own health at the end of the day rights and that's what you ended up having to take it into your own hands you say that sell so well and and unfortunately on top of that it wasn't just me projecting a tremendous amount of faith an authority on them it was also them being i faced a lot of i hate to say it arrogance and a lot of an attitude of i'm the person in the white coat i'm the one with all these degrees right it had anybody 'em i mean again i was i was scared and sort of open hearted in a sense when you're when you're in a doctor's office i think everybody can relate to this you're more vulnerable shirtless smells the feelings the white and they said you know you just sort of naturally get a little bit of fear and you are you're guard is a little bit down you're defense is wrapping regard is down is both what you're feeling end because of that 'em i was more susceptible to just believing everything that was going on but then there's that little nine question that hopefully we all sort of listen to if we if we need tale which was saying i mean this doesn't feel right it's it's all okay why does it not at all okay right there is it assumption with doctors that they have your best interest at heart and they're doing everything they can in and the simple cases it's a business and they're trying to do the best they can with the patients they have in the time they have a lot it's a lot of stuff and fall through the cracks at what point were you diagnosed with cancer and did they decide something needed to be done when did that realization heaven so and in right after a a battery of tests after fourth of july two thousand twelve again exactly what right around this time 'em so 'em and it when it literally was night and day it went from a it was in fact these huge specialist in a neck and throats of abnormalities or cancers or whatnot and very very high end high paid specialist a in westwood would who was the one who made the crack if i were a betting man you know and it was me insisting on an ex journal biopsy and i don't wanna get too graphic with everybody but there's there's a gentle way to do a biopsy and then there's the more just okay were just gonna take manned 'em in the gentle ones were were getting us anywhere and it was me who insisted harmon you know when when really find out what it is and he was sort of fighting it in rolling his eyes and made that crack and it went from that to about a week later getting an urgent call from the front office saying the doctor would like to see you and you know that's not good when it's not gonna be you know over the phone right when it's you have to come in and i said can you can you tell me anything and she said i'm sorry man we need to bring you in the know and then i wanna come in right away horse and then and then you get the well he didn't see you end of day eight tomorrow and you're and you're thinking and i'm sure a lot of people i hope not but i'm sure a lot of people can relate to that awful feeling of great now i have to wait thirty six hours and and that's that's what do i walked in i had to wait in the waiting room when all the patients they they double and triple book a lot of these doctors just to keep their schedules for which is another thing that i will be speaking about an you sit there for about an hour and fifteen minutes and then you're scored it in and then you wait by herself in a big scary room and then finally the doctor came in the same one who's been a a comedian two weeks before an said this is serious you need to get this operated on right away it can be fatal i mean literally like this is coming at me an best case scenario is will be able hopefully maybe to salvage you're voice but i don't know yet if it's i mean this is all being delivered almost most as if 'em i think we're gonna have to move to another neighborhood honey you know the the trash situation is it was just sort of calm and quiet in serious an again the same person who had been joking around about you know in in rolling his eyes in as i states you know in sort of this this story that's gone out on various forms of media i would probably qualify what followed next as the hysteria were merely law that tune in tomorrow for part two of my interview with cat chris today and hear about how she dealt with the diagnosis of having cancer and the treatment and what she went through and the way she battled battled back after her life in career were threatened with this awful disease will inspire you i promise so make sure you come back for tomorrow's chapter two of that interview at of course also i will be releasing the entire interview to you two three and 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Gibson vs Fender - Back From the Brink | 5

Business Wars

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Gibson vs Fender - Back From the Brink | 5

"It's february first nineteen eighty five at the annual trade show the national association of music merchants or now in anaheim hind california dozens of reporters are waiting for a fender president's bill scholtz they're expecting a major announcement about his struggling guitar company in the meantime may speculate wildly i bet some japanese company bartlett my money's on yamaha i hear they couldn't find a buyer i wouldn't be surprised if this turns into away in nineteen eighty five fender is still one of the world's most iconic guitar brands but two decades of mismanagement by its parent company cbs have lifted in shambles aunt for the first time in thirty years guitars fallen out of fashion fewer teens were common during their parents garages turn them into practice stages where their band you know they're hovering over video games personal computers and the decades grandiose instrument the synthesizer photographers jump in front of shelters he walks into the hilton hotel ballroom he's in his late fifty rounds based in jovial he was brought in to get fender back on track and he's well liked by employee's he's in amateur musician within mb eight an engineering degree ideal for a guitar company precedent but not even shows could turn fender around now with guitar sales plummeting industrywide cbs is looking to unload fender to the highest bidder shields steps to the podium cameras splash reporters split open there no patch in point there cassette recorders adam thank you all for coming it gives me great pleasure to announce that a group of fender employees in private investors led by myself and other company executives will purchase the vendor electric instrument instrument division the reporters string they hear the rest of shelter statement over the cheers from the audience but bender loyalists this is the best possible outcome ownership bystanders only employees the people who know so in love it's guitars better than anyone scholtz fields a few questions from reporters how much did you pay a story that's confidential can you say what's included in the sale everything made under the fender brand that includes guitars stars amplifiers plus other vendor product lines including roads pianos roger drums in polaris synthesizers benders lost money each of the last three years right how do you plan to make it profitable again well we have downsize and there will be layoffs but were confident that with some improvements in our court products weaken cheapest legendary company alive for many years to come scholtz wraps up the press conference he feels both exoneration in dread scholtz pulled vendor back from the brink of extinction cbs was prepared to liquidate the company if it couldn't get a fair price but it's still hanging by a thread if they can't find a new factory and get back into production soon vendor could be toast good business wars is brought to you by chase so you're ready to buy buy your first home at chase they know you you've done the 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gaining steam large corporations boss fender and gibson planning to boost their size an profitability they did that by cutting corners diminishing quality end they're cool factor now in the early nineteen eighties folks bender end gibson are struggling financially it's up to new owners to restore these hallo brands but the question is with guitar sales down can both companies survive this is episode five back from the break august nineteen eighty five four months so bill scholtz in his cheek guitar designer dan smith had been searching for some place to put vendors new factory and today it looks like they might have found it the building is empty warehouse in a nondescript industrial park in the city of corona about fifty miles east of los angeles not far from vendors former hometown spaces only fourteen thousand square feet barely one tenth the size of the olfactory scholtz watches smith walks the warehouse his perimeter studying it's dimensions the to work together for nearly ten years burst at yamaha's musical instruments division bennett fender under cbs shields called out to the guitar designer from across the warehouse what do you think dan then you'd make this work it'll be a tight squeeze but yeah this could work and it's close enough to they all factory the most of our staff won't mind the commute i say we take it great right i'll make offer it'll be good to start making guitars again by october the new factories up and running production is extremely limited at first only about ten guitars a day but it's a start gibson and he's retooling to in nineteen eighty four the company closes its factory in kalamazoo which had been in continuous operation for sixty seven years it moves it's guitar production to a newer cheaper facility in nashville but it's not enough in nineteen eighty five gibson reports losses of twelve point six million be equivalent of thirty million in today's dollars gibson's parent company norlin has had they put their story guitar division up for sale asking price by million dollars end in january of nineteen eighty six they find their buyer in their new york office thirty two year old entrepreneur poor henry just quit sent his business partners pop the cork on a bottle of champagne to celebrate the purchase the three scruffy harvard business school grads now get the add some rock and roll cool factor to their pedigrees buying gibson was too good good for them to pass up no matter how trouble the company may be just go which takes this week of champagne impasse is the bottle it's official wise we're now the proud owner of the gibson guitar company rock on henry but another partner looks adjusts to it's like a deer in the headlights no or the hell do we do now we go to nashville and convince them were not a case of meet the new boss same ezio boss just go which can pretty much count on people in nashville being suspicious of three harbored interlopers trying to revive a revered guitar like gibson they've already had seventeen years of mismanagement under norlin folks in tennessee surely won't be impressed that they're only connection to the music business is through one of their other companies by technologies and it's client muzak sappy instrumentals piped in the elevators grocery stores in doctors waiting rooms across america but just go which has played guitar since he was a teenager and he brings in suzy asterik rock and roll attitude to the job during a visit to gibson's nashville factory in spring of nineteen eighty six he he jumps up onto a workbench machinist stop working stand silently as just to its weight super quiet to addressed a large group of employees look i know you all probably think i'm just another guy within india is gonna come here and tell you how to make guitars i know you all probably call me the muzak man behind my back and that's cool that's cool but look i'm not here to tell you how to do you're jobs i'm here the lesson okay what do i think we can do to get this company back on track we'll do whatever it takes to honor gibson's legacy and rebuild it for the future now are you with me where where you muzak man just louis and his partners have no time to waste that's because offender bills scholtz and dan smith have a few moves of their own in january nineteen eighty seven in vendors show room at the nam trade show in anaheim designer smith shows off the new revamped stratocaster curious guitar players hold the cherry red demo in their hands with reverence recalling at the american standard stratocaster looks just like original but with several key improvements audio proven strategies a classic i couldn't agree more but check this out we've added a one piece maple neck reversed polarity middle pick up to reduce come up fully redesigned tremble tremble are here try it out see what you think he hands distracter one of the guitar players who plugs in in trump's view court man things bichon nice to see vendors finally making good guitars again you american standard line of stratocaster proved to be a smart move on thunders part even though it flies in the face of what other guitar makers you're doing all around the name prayed show newer companies like jackson kramer in dc rich are displaying flashy new guitars odd shapes in glossy i poppy finishes they want will field were growing genre of music it's making guitars popular again heavy metal it's loud over the top and banks mtv bands like van halen judas priest and def leppard gender play showy over the top guitars and their videos knows some of them even use a classic gibson's flying guitar it was unpopular when it was first released in nineteen fifty eight but it's dramatic be shaped body is a perfect look for heavy metal it's tempting pretender try to compete with all that flash smith knows if while metal bands may want while looking guitars on mtv in the studio many of them still play vintage stratocaster is in telecast and loyalty defenders flagship products runs see if he can tap into that loyalty within improved updated traffic well they'll have a hit on their hands the strategy works in a matter of months benders little corona factory actor is operating in double shifts at full capacity to meet demand the company over the second factory just over the border in mexico guitar magazines and music industry trade wars hail build scholtz dan smith or bringing fender back from the brink back in nashville henry jessica which is keeping a close eye on fenders come back he's thinking about those baby boomers who grew up idolizing the les paul players like eric clapton jimmy page who were now all middle aged with plenty of disposable income he figures that's the perfect way for gibson to tap into that mix daljit market to but the company has neglected their best this daljit embassador guitarist les paul by the time just go it's bob gibson no one at the company had spoken depaul in years with the gibson still struggling financially just which is determined to mend fences with paul unfortunately for him these days the guitarist is not hard to find new york city spring nineteen eighty seven in jeans and a black leather jacket just go which ducks into fat tuesday a cd basement jazz club the greeks stale beer in lower manhattan he's come to see the les paul trio all played his first show you're about three years ago and it was so successful involved into a weekly residency now paul drives into new york from rural new jersey every monday night old jazz standards until corny jokes were a small but appreciative crowd often famous guitarist dropped into paid their respects jimmy page and keith richards are frequent visitors and recently even the reclusive bob dylan shoda inside just go it slides into his reserved seat of the kathy table near the staging orders of beer a few minutes later paul steps onto the clubs cramped stage but the second guitar player ended up right bassist calls in his early seventies now thin in a little freya looking blue turtleneck he sits down grabs her black gibson les paul in looks out at the audience a smile spreads across the space it melts away the decades hello everyone my name is less paul thanks so much for coming out tonight paul has arthritis but you'd never know it from his play he's asleep fingered is ever jessica which is impressed wow guy still got it after the show just go it's approaches the stage and introduces himself paul size ism up in grand you sure you're the new precedent of gibson you don't look old enough to drink i swear it's me sir well give me a few minutes pack up and i'll meet you at the bar as fat tuesday staff stacks chairs and sweeps the floors paul and just sit and chat for over an hour despite their differences and age they feel an immediate connection both have a fondness for off color jokes in paul has impressed with a gibson ceos knowledge of guitars when it's clear they're finally about to be kicked out just to its makes his pitch hey less you've got a birthday coming up soon right don't remind me i'll be a hundred and eighty six years old well seventy two is what i heard anyway why don't you let gibson throw you a party help celebrate the company hasn't done enough to argue it well i'd like to fix that you'd be honoring me more if you fixed everything that's wrong with a less paul they changed so much over the years it's barely the same guitar i'm i'm way it'd be allows our design team is working on a little birthday present for you as we speak i think you'll be impressed just go which leaves bat tuesdays that night determined to give paul the birthday bash of a lifetime that's the easy part now he also has to windfalls trust if he can do that then maybe paul will actively endorse gibson's latest guitars and dress codes can save gibson from the scrappy i am so excited about our sponsor mac weldon they make men's central with a smart design premium fabrics that's convenient easy to shop for firm underwear socks shirts under shirts hoodies 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nineteen eighty seven a black limousine pulled up outside the hard rock cafe in midtown manhattan as the limo doors open bouncers push back on the crush spectators in papa razzi hoping for a glimpse of whoever's about the step out the party inside the hard rock is a who's who of rock royalty already jeff beck jimmy page and robby krieger the doors of arrived who could be next year who the hell that don't you know that's the guest of honor last fall fall is fashionably late to is seventy second birthday bash man wearing a blue turtleneck in a big smile heat wave to the camera's that's his oldest son helps them inside the club the hard rock is packed shoulder to shoulder with the music industry bigwigs rock stars and assorted celebrities glancing around policies tony bennett doctor john bo diddley paul's had famous friends it's forty years but even for him well it's a little overwhelming with some effort paul son guides him across the room to wear henry just which is standing next what cake the size of a coffee table last last it's about time he got here i hope you don't expect need a blowout all those candles henry no no but i do expect you to play he presented paul with a birthday present he promised a reissued fifty nine styles gibson les paul guitar later that night paul leads in all star jam session back my all schaefer stanford late nights david letterman tony bennett comes up to sing songs jimmy page hops on stage to rip a few so lies all is pleased to find his new guitar feels and sounds remarkably likely originally the jam session continues late into the night party doesn't start winding down until three pm all leaves exhausted but elated for justice which the evening couldn't have gone any better his gamut to win back gibson's legendary endorser has paid off for a couple of months gibson basques in the glow of successful event all of the major news outlets gush over the party's elitist attendees and star studded jam session rolling stone features a photo of last with jeff beck and jimmy page with the caption saint paul and his disciples cycles and the positive press has the desired effect sales of the gibson les paul surge then in august just two months after the party just go it's walks through the lobby of gibson corporate headquarters in nashville the latest issue of guitar player one of the industry's most influential magazine is stacked in the lobby waiting area and on the cover is a cherry red stratocaster next headline stratton mania dress code which takes the magazine to his office and angrily flip through the pages guitar player has devoted not just one article but an entire section to the stratocaster which they're naming the guitar of the decade their argument is based not so much on the stratocaster is quality but it's ubiquity fi nineteen eighty seven nearly every company makes their own knock off version of us stratocaster they're called super straps if they're higher end or sl lows strap like objects if their chief since nineteen eighty one center is filed over thirty trademark claims against them and still be imitators become even more amazingly knockoffs have done virtually nothing damp andy originals popularity vendors nineteen eighty seven catalog teachers more different versions and models of stratocaster than ever before while gibson struggles to jumpstart it's comeback fenders is already well underway just go which isn't the only one fuming guitar player magazines omar's to the strategy edgy anelle guitars and fullerton leo fender sweeps the latest copier guitar player office drafting tabling into the trash he found a g n l in nineteen seventy nine to release a new line of guitars that the him car far superior those made by the company sold off in nineteen sixty fifty five but after a few successful years gino sales have stagnated and what's worse many guitar players compared gm nells products unfavorably to fenders to leo fender his mind this is absurd his old companies essentially still making the same guitars he designed over thirty years ago and his new creations perogie nl look an sound superior but vendors new owners keep pushing dennis daljit factor this bizarre idea that older is better it makes no sense and leo fender is getting sick of in effect competing against his younger self with his jewelers magnifying glass is still perched on his forehead he's shovels down the hall to the office of gmo's head of sales dale high it higher wraps up a sales call and greets his boss what can i do for you leo i want you to cancel our ads and guitar player i had it with those idiots look leo that stratton mania cover pissed me off to but do you really think that's wise guitar player circulation is huge we'll needham down we don't itam weaken sale just as many with word of mouth fine i'll make the call leo fender goes back to his drafting tabling resumes work on his latest project but assay sketches he feels a sudden spasm in drawing hand his pencil which is you're racist is mistaken tries again with the same result few people know it yet but leo fender has parkinson's disease for a man who prides himself on his meticulous handiwork it's a devastating illness but he's determined to fight through it even now at age seventy eight leo fender still has something to prove he wants to prove to the world but he designed the guitar even better than the stratocaster on the next episode henry just which is increasingly wild behavior spells trouble forgives leo fender unless paul i'll take their final bows and declining sales threatened not just vendor end gibson but the entire guitar industry from wondering this is business wars and we hope you enjoyed this episode and we invite you to subscribe on google podcast apple podcasts stitcher spotify iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts you'll find a link on the episode notes just tapper swipe why the cover art and you'll see some offers more sponsors you could support our show by supporting them and we hope you 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"Is there something that interferes with their happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals better help online counseling is there for you connect with their professional counselor in a private online environment schedule secure video or phone sessions plus chat anteks withdrew therapists listeners get ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash world news from abc's world news this week i'm sure secrets in the new york coming up in a divided america celebrates the largest earthquake in twenty years rattles southern california i don't wanna move outrage grows over conditions migrant detention facility from their excitement over women's soccer hits a fever pitch to i say getting one step closer possibly do another world champion in new york city says farewell american heroes only want it in return which the government recognize the labor in pain of his brothers and sisters the people in events that made headlines when world news this week continues resident trump is giving himself rave reviews following his salute to america on the fourth of july but his critics have questions about the price tag again the motive here's abc's stephanie ramos the fourth of july celebration salute to america produced by and starring resident trump went on get down to on the national mall hello america the president's on the steps of the lincoln memorial behind spring street you bulletproof glass barrier and sleep plus bradley fighting vehicle brought in from georgia president trump addressing the crowd venetian focusing on america's history and freezing america's armed forces past and present we celebrate history by people and the heroes who proudly defender flag in the future someday soon we will plants american flag on mars shenice cost end motive for the production the military parade he's having today you know it just it it it it it is just absolutely he takes me things are toys the white house hasn't put a price tag on the festivities but the national park service reportedly directed point five million dollars from the project recover com to forty about trump supporters in after the president's nearly an hour god bless god bless the military and god bless america happy fourth of july and the president's big show show ending with feces traditional fourth of july fireworks onstage the president's joined vice president mike pence his wife cabinet members and right behind them on the risers vip ticket holders many of them were thinking their tickets from the republican national national committee but this by the heavy downpour right here on the national mall so many people gather to take part in a witness in unprecedented presidential fourth of july celebration abc's stephanie ramos in washington the fourth of july maybe the 'perfect data become are you a citizen one group of people became americans at the home of the man who wrote the declaration of independence here's abc's brian clark thomas jefferson's monticello hosted its fifty seven independence day celebration naturalization station ceremony in more than seventy people took the oath of citizenship and i also heard from someone who did so years ago constitutional rights advocate and goldstar father teaser can't argue with them and even today remain in all of this footage of this blesses blesses mission is that american citizenship was suddenly he could once only dream of citizenship and immigration services says it expects almost seventy five hundred people will become citizens over the first five days of july brian clark kbc news fourth of july celebrations rattled rattled in southern california part of the region getting hit with the largest earthquake there in two decades area also hit with more than a hundred aftershocks abc's eva pilgrim reports from california the largest earthquake in two decades striking southern california terrified children performing in a fourth of july show this week king surveillance video inside a local market capturing the moment is hit a cast on running for safety dodging falling debris the whole shells went down the all the bottles broke all the lion shells the the beer coolers they all i destroyed when it stopped groceries litter be i'll sell them is and the floors really slippery patients from a local hospital evacuated after suffering minor injuries with roads roads cracking the six point four quake was felt as far away as las vegas the massive event terrifying residents struggling to get out of their home seismologist say this was a strike slip quick meaning the two plates along the fault move parallel to each other but in opposite directions experts warning the worst may be yet to come abc's eva pilgrim the department of homeland security's internal watchdog has described conditions in migrant detention facilities as they quote ticking taking time bomb the report prompting protesters in some members of congress the call for the closure of those centers here's abc's mona kosar object thousands of protesters take the streak of major cities across the country holding signs that reed clues the camps the nationwide movement comes after recent accounts of inhumane and unsafe conditions and migrant border facilities democratic lawmakers recounting stories of migrants sleeping on concrete floors and rooms without running water after a visit to to sicily's on monday abc's mona kosar abdi outrage over conditions at detention facilities comes as customs and border protection launches a probe into a secret facebook page including thousands of current and former employees some of the post on page had comments considered offensive toured migrants and some democratic lawmakers abc's will car one threat about an image that sparked national outrage and they drowned salvadorans in his young daughter one common suggests the photo had been edited because the bodies appeared to clean other post include graphic images suggesting sexual physical violence against members of congress one member encouraging eight just throw a burrito congresswoman veronica escobar in alexandria oh cossio cortez abc's will car president trump says he is going to push to have a question about citizenship added to the twenty twenty census abc's andy field has more from washington they're already printing census forms without the citizenship question but that's not stopping the president's thinking he can throw them in the trash in reprint asking if people are citizens something that hasn't been done since the nineteen fifties president trump is thinking of just issuing an executive order for five ways we could do it it's one of the ways of thinking about doing it very seriously the president's own justice this department apparently doesn't know what the president wants to do they met again with a federal judge saying the president has asked them to review all options and quote any event the commerce department adopts a new rationale for including the citizenship question consistent with what the supreme court decided the government will immediately notify the court so it could determine whether there's any need to proceed the supreme court said the old rationale to enforce the voting rights act wasn't good enough the president's says just having the question is enough for him to find everything about everybody think of it fifteen twenty million dollars and you're not allowed to ask are you a citizen that's what the president's commerce secretary wilbur ross who is now so they're printing without the question mr trump is saying you're ross they go twelve is a good man a lot of people thought disaster were fine i thought it was fine excuse me fat the first of many reasons if you're doing but we were but for now the forms are proving without question andy field abc's news washington former navy seal edward gallagher was acquitted on charges of murder for the death of a teenage isis dick cheney in twenty seventeen but he sentenced on a charge related taking a picture with the detainees body more from abc's alec stone is ranked gives to be reduced any gets four months confinement but since he served more than that awaiting trial he's now a free man he's attorney tim parlow tori he will move ford i mean it affects a what is ultimate pension is going to be but 'em he does not have to come back into a courtroom walking to his car gallagher reacted to it sends by only saying it's fine alex stone abcd's cnn's manslaughter charges were dropped against an alabama woman who was shot and lost her unborn child she is charged after a jury said she started a fight on purpose so her unborn child would die here's abc's pete combs district attorney one east washington says in the end we are not prosecuting the case the case of twenty seven year old marsha joan spark national outrage after the woman was shot during a parking lot fight over a man the woman who shot her wasn't charged instead a grand jury charge charge jones after police say she started the fight but after looking the whole thing over dj washington says it is not in the best interest of justice to pursue prosecution of miss jones pete combs abc's news overseas iran's president says his country will soon increase its enrichment of uranium to whatever level they want a move that could further escalate tensions with two u s these comments come after iran broke the limit furlough enrich uranium allowed under the twenty fifteen nuclear deal here's abc's news chief global affairs correspondent martha raddatz ron has been building up its stockpile of nuclear materials for the first time it has passed the limits set in the landmark nuclear deal negotiated by the obama administration the move comes a year after president trump pulled the usa out of that deal he was asked if he has a message for ron they know what they're doing they know what they're playing with i think they're playing with fire the president's has called for new talks but iran showing no sign it's leaders want to negotiate nbc news chief global affairs correspondent martha raddatz recession fears in britain are mounting is uncertainty over brexit continues to grow abc's tom rivers is more britain's economy is showing alarming signs of a sharp slowdown according i hs market closely watched survey of business activity here what is brexit secretary steven barkley think no one could never rule out what could happen in the future the question is only doing everything we can superpac if britain leaves the out a brexit deal there will be implications only some of which have been fully examined unexplored another project fair stories we hear stories like the queen having to leave london or that the wouldn't be clean water or a fair bit of a seriously exaggerating the will be disruption with a new deal of always being clear about that well it's all to model because obviously will be in the and the question is where climbing a funny areas within a control but the will be obvious as i say for example in small business is where we don't have visibility on the preparation so it's important that they pack as well if a new agreement could not be struck by october thirty first a messy no deal exit could well be the result in which case fasten your seatbelts it's going to be a bumpy ride abc's tom rivers in london boeing says it will shell out tens of millions of dollars to those impacted by the two seven thirty seven max eight crashes and right now there's no indication when that jet will return the commercial service abc's alec stone has more in a video message boeing ceo dennis muilenburg confirms his company's engineers are working on additional issue discovered last week involving safety of the boeing seven thirty seven max smolin burg says making sure the plane is safe to fly is gonna take time working hard with a rigorous focus on safety and it's important we take the time necessary to make these updates there is no reliable timetable forgetting the plane flying again usa airlines have canceled max flights into the fall alex stone abcd a sneaker that was meant to commemorate the july fourth holiday was pulled from stores before to go on sale abc's brian clark explains why nike plan to release version of its airmax sneaker wasn't early american flag on the back with thirteen stars in a circle the wall street journal says nike endorser former nfl quarterback colin capper nick reached down to the company and said the revolutionary war era flag is offensive to many because it represents an era of slavery nike now says it's chosen not to release the shoe because it featured quote an old version of the american flag brian clark kbc news environmental officials in kentucky warning about contamination to the kentucky river following a massive fire at a gym beam facility abc's ryan burrow has more about forty five thousand barrels of bourbon were destroyed in the fire tuesday night into wednesday morning no humans were battling the flames but the kentucky he energy and environment cabinet now warning that the runoff from the fire could be harmful the fish in the kentucky river officials say the runoff could leave discoloration forming an odor in the water and create low dissolved oxygen levels leading substantial fish kills the board has stopped short of banning recreational activity on the river but they want people using the river to be aware the board says the water is being treated ryan burrow nbc news team usa takes on the netherlands in the world cup final american women defeated england two to one in their semifinal advancing to the world cup final for the third consecutive time here's abc's janai norman team usa is heading to another world cup final thousands of americans any arena in leon france erupting ended cheers as a team beat england two to one but many fans were shocked to see the team starting lineup co captain meghan pino on the sidelines with what she says is a minor strain at game time christian press took her place and she didn't miss a beat even a goal from england powerhouse ellen white couldn't stop usa momentum for long and just when england thought they tie up the game video review coming back with a shocking reversal offsides no goal then team usa blocked them one more time usa goalkeeper oliseh nager diving to block a penalty kick to win celebrated by fans across the country back home in brooklyn angela chicago resident trump's been lashing out at meghan pino one of the stars of the women's team after she said she would not go to the white house if you as wins the world cup american tennis fee nom cocoa cody goff is made it through to the second week at wimbledon or fairy tale journey at the all england club began when she defeated venus williams in the first round but the fifteen year old is also in the middle of some controversy abc's michelle franzen has more corey cocoa golf the fifteen teen year old fee nom at this year's wimbledon as quickly rising in the ranks she's the youngest player to make it to wimbledon third round in nearly three decades but you may have first heard about cocoa in the first round when she beat tennis legend venus williams i think we just saw a star is born commentators here's an even veterans like roger federer answer rena williams are also taking notice she's like pretty awesome in pretty cool with the spotlight some controversy playing out off the court coco is under fire along with british tennis player jay clark he reportedly dumped his current doubles partner harriet dart by text that after cocoa reached out the clark asking if they could team up she asked me why those moving a name of america for a while and that was clerk dart says she's moving on and golf also shrugging off criticism in keeping her eye on the ball abc's michelle franzen recreational marijuana will soon be legal in illinois but perhaps the bigger impact of the state's new law is hundreds words of thousands of low level drug convictions will now be wiped out more from abc's ryan burrow nearly eight hundred thousand illinois residents good at marijuana possession convictions white from the record's it's welcome news the angela leslie who was arrested as a teenager for marijuana possession insult prosecutors go after him to the fullest extent of the law the prosecutors basically china paint a picture of my escalation in in crime right so they tried to tell the judge that it's only gonna get worse from here what am i thinking like usually get worse because you're taking on russia's i can't go either rocketing germany cook county state's attorney kim fox i think there's a specific role for prosecutors to have a seat at the table and take the responsibility of owning on the repair of the harm owning the process of of expunge moment because it was prosecutors on that went into court and sought these convictions in the first place fox says in cook county all convictions of marijuana possession under thirty grams will be automatically expunged anyone with the conviction of thirty five hundred grams will need the file a petition ryan burrow abc's news chicago a mainstay of many americans rigging elections is disappearing at least in the way most of us know it abc's jim ryan reports in the demise of mad magazine mad magazine was founded in nineteen fifty two by william gains who's remembered by staff writer dick debartolo as a brilliant iconoclast to grudgingly interacted with his readers before the internet he didn't have a secretary he hated to answer lettuce so we had fifty rubberstamps may with answers to the fifty most asked questions and anyway stamp all the answers to your questions on your own letter and mail it back to you for sixty seven years mad magazine edits editors who call themselves the usual bunch of idiots have lampooned american politicians consumers and culture occasionally finding themselves lampooned by other social critics like bart simpson excuse this mob mob is i'd like the grand prix listening can you probably think lots of crazy stuff but now hundreds of issues after the first one dick debartolo tweets that after these august issue original mad magazine content will be available only by direct mail ended comic bookstores starting with issue number eleven mad will feature classic best of admist algae content from the last seven decades they are kind of question posed by mad magazine cover boy alfred newman what me worry might have a different answer today jim ryan nbc news seven people were killed in a helicopter crash there on the weight of fort lauderdale from the bahamas when the chopper went down among the victims billionaire coal magnates chris klein flying sony one of the nation's top coal companies and a tough donor president trump's two thousand seventeen not gration donating one million dollars according to police the helicopter heading to fort lauderdale from the bahamas was reported missing after not reaching its destination residents leader discovering aircraft overturned in sixteen feet of water victor oquendo abc's laying a historic heat wave in alaska for the first time on recor the temperature in anchorage hit ninety degrees abc's alec stone has more when you think of alaska sunbathing on a beach in ninety degree temperatures but juries may not be what pops into your mind areas of alaska are dealing with a heat wave temperatures hovering around ninety degrees through next week challenging all time high temperatures anchorage who said the break its all time high of eighty five degrees and what makes it worse is air conditioning is almost unheard of an alaskan homes leaving people sweating through it alex stone abcd's the passing of an iconic american car industry lee iacocca who led to american courage giant says die while at ford iacocca put the mustang into the lineup in the nineteen sixties but after a clash with henry ford the second diet coke is perhaps best known but resurrecting chrysler in the nineteen eighties becoming the face of the company in a household name in the process i have one and only one in vision for chrysler it'd be the best what officers are at chrysler launching another vehicle that stood the test of time the mini bad coco was ninety four dave packer raby senior new york city's finest pay tribute to a fellow officer who spent the last days of his life fighting for other when world news this week continues better help offers licensed professional counselor specialized in a wide array of issues like depression anxiety anxiety in grief connect with your professional counselor in a safe private online environment it's a truly affordable option and listeners can get ten percent off your first month by going to better help dot com slash world news fill out questionnaire to help them assess your needs and get matched with a counselor you'll love get cash back for shopping you were already going to do racket ten is a free member base loyalty program that lets you were in cash back on shopping at over twenty five hundred stores like macy's 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urging lawmakers to renew the funding during the nine eleven victims compensation fund about to run out of money next year you said you would never forget line here to make sure that she's a comedian jon stewart who is there there with him in washington which here to abc's david wright those people and events that made world news this week world news this week was written produced by smith is you've got i'm chuck sivertsen abc's news

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CROSS COUNTRY COFFEE ROADSHOW

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Tim is Making Great Coffee Part 1-032 CCCRS

"Is there a price on sanity is there a price on sanity a price for sanity cross country carthy role and it's called Tim is making great coffee it's not third wave it's not but it's great coffee when we are in San Juan Capistrano this week in Beautiful San Juan and songs written about it and people that are going there specifically compared to last week last week we're at bird rock not too far geographically away but an interesting jump to Tim Store Coffee Road show season to the Pacific Coast highway from San Diego to Seattle with your hosts Dan and Linda mcgarry come along eggs. These coffees people and places so special whether you're a novice first-time supper or a true connoisseur and aficionado whether you're coming anti of coffee but he serves three or four ways I could not imagine a more diametrically different coffee store this week as they introduce you to the best and most unique coffee houses around this amazing country they'll be highlighting some of the gems of the independent coffee world so number thirty three trice on Saturday this week we are at Tim Is Making Great Coffee Aka coast coffee and tea Mutiti as well as now a growing national audience has found that Tim does make a Great Cup of coffee. When you've named your store Tim is making great coffee there are Sir As we moved up the coast from San Diego we chose our second coffee shop in the city of San Juan Capistrano this beautiful city of from across the country or across the street you will be rewarded with great stories fabulous coffees meet unique Baristas and owners come join us to see San Diego to Seattle coffee shop at a time and welcome to the cross country coffee roadshow and fabulous food look no further than the five star rated Tim is making Great Coffee Aka coast coffee and tea sit back relax or yourself a cup of Joe and enjoy price on sanity federal building in use California Trivia for wine enthusiasts the area is the first vineyard and winery thirty five thousand people was the site for the mission San Juan Capistrano the Sierra Chapel in the mission is also the oldest function only some things you have to live up to now for the travelogue portion of and and hear the stories of the road and learn what makes this portion of America so special now prepare to travel with them the length of the Pacific Coast highway for Tim's isn't the easiest star to find but the people in the surrounding neighborhoods absolutely nowhere to find him and certainly the local for the missions and some of the other delightful things they have there what about the birds and the birds the swallows and the swans notes swallows returning to Kevin into some shops San Capistrano has everything you need for a memorable vacation or a permanent home to find great coffee the younger to drink coffee at home I remember when I grew up in the San Francisco Bay area in San Jose and in California those monks they knew how to live it up shirt from shopping antique hunting wine tasting road when they opened up first starbucks in our community back in the early to mid nineties I remember last name is L. A. Oh that's pronounced Leo like Chow in Italian with Ellen stead at Tim's me we got to Chins we found that he is the sole proprietor and he'll explain some of that to you as we go through the interview tim only serves astronomy so we didn't return well we did return Capistrano because we the first time we went through we found a fabulous little coffee store and more win dog let's all way show job being a whole ta cheers to you too we are at ten makes a Great Cup of coffee otherwise known as coast coffee and tea good morning good afternoon good evening good night for the steelers point it's not just point as Tartus and to all my Taiwanese friends all win so what made you decide you want to open a store yeah I had the love affair with coffee ever since high school and we're here with the owner this morning on this beautiful day in California Tim I'm wondering if you could introduce yourself sure my name is tim I I it was kind of rebellious and cool thing to do was not allowed obviously when I was interestingly because not only do I love coffee but it was just it was just a less expensive risk than opening up a full blown restaurant so no one the restaurants and a lot of immigrants come to own certain types of shops like I- brother-in-law's Cambodian and Cambodians are famous ah the grand opening of our new arena in San Jose back back in nineteen ninety three or so and concerts tone my own restaurant or cafe but from my parents experiencing how risky it was and how hard I was to lose money I'd it was a Kenny G. concert at all concerts but it was sponsored by starbucks coffee and I just remember that commercial thinking wow this must be owning donut shops but I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing or bad thing because even though immigrants are hard workers they don't necessarily then you shouldn't own a coffee shop same thing was I think any other type of business like if you if you're not into alcohol didn't don't own a bar don't unless Alchoholic a lot of immigrants like my parents came to the United States and where did they come from taking from Taiwan so they were looking at owning several times Congra- Coffee San Juan Capistrano California. Tim Tell me how you got let's start with your coffee history I have you mentioned drinking coffee own your life and if so minuses that you found since opening your own store the copy businesses is interesting I mean first thing if you don't like coffee don't if you're not in the coffee got degree also got a culinary degree that's my shows in your French toast that we've had this morning that's for sure so you started off with the corner that my parents did was to invested in microbrewery restaurant in Kauai Hawaii in in the night nineteen ninety s and due to several family had had ventured into coffee before is that right okay so what was the biggest surprise for you owning your own store now what's been the biggest pluses did you agree to that kind of lead you into owning store what happened was my my parents owned a couple of restaurants and flower shop when we were younger eh I serve one type of high quality organic coffee and that is a good thing like that certain type of food or certain type of drink I'm hence your description of alcohol in the bar at Cetera but these people are waiting in line and if the machine could do it just as well for you then you should trust the machines to do it and UPI beans I only serve a few methods of brewing it I'd have poor over US an option but the the bun machine that I have makes really and therefore when you go to small coffee shop small mom and pop coffee shop sometimes you will see a roaster planted right in front of the store uh when I was growing up and it was a hard I from there I knew it was a hard existence it was it was not an easy thing and the last one issues like Hurricane Nikki and their of their business went belly up and they lost a good chunk of their retirement savings so I always wanted and that often gives people indication that their coffee is that they're serving is freshly roasted the truth of it is on your customer base I subscribe to a very different philosophy with copy than most of third third wave coffee shops got my mom and saying we need to go to that place just sounds like a really cool place and and then we went to I went with a friend to a concert the coffee and I guess we should we should tell your audience that I actually run this coffee shop by myself so running a coffee shop by yourself you have to be a really cool phenomenon that's happening in so as you got into coffee what made you decide now was that your chosen career choice or did you do something else before I went to college Sabin's locally but you don't want the person that's making your coffee to Barista or the cashier productive you have to you have to simplify and the problem with doing four overs as a one man operation is that it would be near impossible in in the morning when interesting about that is a small coffee shops mom and POPs like this one here the type of coffee you're gonNA drink is very indicative of what type of copied owner likes since the owner has pretty much latitude to doing good serving whatever you want if he likes light rose I don't foresee myself getting wealthy from being a coffee shop owner you can't really just so coffee you do have to sell other things why did I would hold off for years and I went to do Technology and I worked in the computer industry for a while and but the reason I got into coffee what kind of coffee yes so people probably find out about us by accident or despite driving past a sign ahead discussed why you do not have a roaster here I'm wondering if you could explain the roasting part of the coffee businesses very different than the brewing part of the coffee business in operation he has mastered all parts of this including being the chef here as well yes and if you could tell me why I know a number of our list most people go towards so roasting because the profit margin is is greater when Roche coffee rather than when you buy from a roaster already and that's not to me that's not a good reason to roast your own beans most experts and most people that have been in this industry because of what you're doing as far as the way that you're making the roast and and what kind of roles are you making for people and or have you changed that people may not enjoy the foods at yes so to me owning a coffee shop you really have to like coffee you really have to have a taste for coffee and and get kind of creative about I put them out and I have about forty different adjectives and I'll change them every day so the the name of the stores coming here I've already had one this morning that said no they had a store within just a few blocks of their house but they drove here because they liked this particular tim is making great coffee but I could change those agitators from great to like if it's raining it's rainy day coffee if it's all we are doing this interview Tim has one eye on me and one eye on his front door via video monitoring so he is not joking about the one for very long time share with me what you need if you're GonNa Roche your copies you literally have to hire a person to go travel the world me for most people that are now there are some people I've had I've had some negative responses like disappointed that I don't have more varietals as I have on the road my store is not facing the main street it's kind of hidden in the back so one of the things that I've had to do is I've had to make these a frame signs coffee you're going to get light roast coffee dark roast coffee in the dark roast coffee and as far as the the customers do you think they gravitate to your store I see year and don't make it a part of their tin airy to come to this coffee shop and that to me is a real blessing says baked goods and also food and do you have more customers coming in as a result of just being in the neighborhood or did you get a lot of referrals from people hosting your coffee it just there's just it's just a lot there's not enough time to do it correctly and you've been here how many years now wicked coffee on Sundays for church going folk I made just want to send a copy coffee Tim's mcgabe coffee which means Christ I'd love to get the people from outside of the area and if so then did they refer to you as their coffee store is that what you're getting us in fact offers of over the last season have found that we have stopped a number of places that have a roaster on site and I was very curious our first trip through there's also Sassy there's a wicked like the way the Bostonians and New England people back you say wicked wicked coffee Tim's me the producers meet the growers and see being comes from an tasted and then bring it back to America and rose four years and what would you say is the biggest plus that you found now having a run the shop for this period of time did you make the right career choice out attack in into the coffee business it's not that difficult basically it's treat people nicely give him a cup of coffee give them a Grey Cup of coffee but to me making coffee's not that hard op to get your health back if so what career would you choose well this interview will focus a great deal on life changing careers as that like I have some kind of formula that gets me these great reviews but the truth of it is I don't I don't really understand how why more people don't do it because our next guest is David Finkelstein he was a lawyer who drank a lot of coffee he was I otherwise I probably would quit doing this a long time ago but part of it is day day will give you a certainly away a certain first and foremost because you're not a starbucks they'll come in here and go wow thank you for not being another starbucks or another corporate store I see it as an owner of a small coffee shop that I spend the vast majority of my day and is that this is this is really my living room and the people that like I think it's funny that like you go to these these fancy hipster coffee shops and they make coffee seem like it is it's it's a t but we are actively looking for a single sponsor for group of sponsors to help us keep it going if you listen at enjoy our show and know anyone interested in sponsoring and was representing people at at any time could have their freedom taken away so there was a lot of tension and I had to put in a tremendous career problem is as you can imagine that adds definitely takes a toll on somebody over the years would you give up a lucrative job well as life changing events what happens when you join a fitness club at fifty seven for the first time good morning we are at Tim makes podcast about great coffee independent coffee stores and wonderful human interest stories please contact us at cross country coffee roadshow dot com a lot of time and a lot of effort and weekends and nights and I find coffee was a great drink for me I'm just a lawyer he was a public defender he took some of the really worst of the worst best to the best end manage to make what greatly when I became a lawyer and that would have been when I was in my mid twenties and the reason being is I was a public defender make mine part of Dr Larry I would say upwards of ninety nine point seven percent of the people that I have encountered have been incredible people really nice and and that's how I started out where were you a public defender at in Framingham Massachusetts and that meant I was overloaded with cases I do I have people that come only visit this I've been open for four years now and I have people that have come not only visit the area like once or twice Great Cup of coffee otherwise known as coast coffee and tea and my first guest this morning is David David if you introduce yourself my name is David come into the coffee sharp are my friends and my guest come into my house it just happened to pay for coffee and I would treat them like the way that I would want to be treated. CBS process and and you need a degree or something to to make it in yeah it to me it's it's not that hard so because it makes me think well how people make an effort to come out to my coffee shop even though there there's hundreds coffeeshops to choose from they choose a little bit about your coffee journey how old were you when you started drinking if have you taste changed over time well I do remember increasing my in dowry give you points for that then you kind of have to screwed up to to get under bad side people think ankle steen do you like to go by gave it well my my wife doesn't like people calling me day for some reason but I do so you can call me eighth she's not here right now so we get to call you dave like the old you can call you ray you can call me don't call me Johnson tell me blows just reminding you that this podcast is completely self funded so far insanity has its price we may want to try that one more welcome to the cross country take on a regular basis especially black coffee so I could keep awake and take advantage of the benefits of the caffeine have your tastes changed over time or stuck with black even now that you you're no longer the public defender I have stuck with black and I have a we have such an epidemic of obesity in this country in some people feel like wow I just can't do this there's no way I haven't taken care of myself or whatever also then dark chocolate and even green tea very curious on that so tell me about your journey from public defender to this would be great so I went and got myself certified by not one but several national organizations and most people on the east coast settled either in the Carolinas further down south in Florida so California really wasn't on my roadmap but it soon because I saw that my own health had been jeopardized by sitting in an office quite a bit and I was having difficulty getting off praemium Massachusetts Shoveling two feet of snow and ice not once not twice but three times and I said a seventy two year old guy on began training people not only in gym but going through their homes so when you say personal trainer you mean personal trainers so you're you're actually one on one Ed West that's that's right my daughter went to USC from Massachusetts and I thought she might stay out here so that was an indication how are you retired now I am retired I moved after I was seventy two years old I found myself on my roof and completely left by sixty five sixty seven years old and at sixty years old I became a personal trainer fitness trainer people come in from the outside and they want to entertain or show their people that they have a program for them if they're interested in my chair needing assistance with my hands to lift myself and I said this is not good you know less than sixty years old and would come up to me and say I do that we must be taking something no no just stick to a program and I did and I said cheese actually lead to two questions the first one is how do you get people started who have never been active and say at at the stage is too late for me are you get them motivated and then what's my next question was what sort of equipment do you use to keep people or get people into shape so my my motto never too late so at fifty seven I began by joining a gym the key and the reason that people fail is they bite off too much move what's wrong with this and I said to my wife were gone west or somewhere warm so you had no idea that this is where you're GonNa Land House tweeting with a gastroenterologist I had all sorts of medical issues and I saw that it was going to adopt place so it's and I had never really been in a gym before age fifty seven but at age fifty seven when I did join a gym for the first time I got remarkable results and people it's never too late it's never too and I'm a perfect example of that I was never remember the gym I was overweight I had herniated disk I was working out a bit I can do that without equipment so I can go into a wide room and do work out a total workout without any equipment at all okay so that that's good it too soon in other words they start coming in every day they stopped lifting heavy and they start getting injured and they said they start to say feel like shuffling along I gotta do something about it so I did and that's why I love being attempts because he followed his passion this is not for me this is not for me so they have burnt out so the key is to slow and to build up and that's what I did and when I got the results and was able to transfer that into a profession by getting certified I got remarkable the people doing one on one with people I've done some group training some companies have high in May to come into their corporate headquarters when they have had assaults for other people in if I can do it you can do it because it's I'm no person special I don't come from that background that been giving you a complimentary workout in there on their phone while doing that's probably a good clue you don't want that person the gym all my life and I take steroids and I you know all at nothing I started with nothing what is the what would you say is that's how people get hurt when they do it on their own because they're not lifting right than are bending right and as a result of it the hardest part of getting people to come along with a program like that so would you recommend for people who have been doing anything working with a trainer all of a sudden they pull a muscle they tear a knee. You don't need to do that you need to do it right and the right way to do it is get a trainer choirs and minerals and vitamins is through natural foods because vitamins don't digest the same way when you take them in they go trace so there was constantly issues of stress and staying up too late not getting enough sleep and eating right and not getting the proper nutrition and As I said before I thought I needed to do something and I think people need to step back and that's it first of all my doctor way back when I told me that the best way to get what your body order the counter materials to candidate yourself in shape personally I take nothing nothing I take one thousand milligrams of Vitamin C UH-HUH I did work with a trainer and that got me started because it's very important to get the right form and technique mostly a criminal attorney so represented people that were bad people there was a lot of stress in my of my life for a moment and think what's missing their lives I mean if people need to stay healthy they need to stay healthy not only for themselves but for their families I know it can be expensive for a little bit but you know what you cannot buy health you need to do something about it the most important thing in your life you have it led a very colorful in divergent life and I'm wondering if you have a story you could share with us I was a in your system and most of them come out without doing the benefit that you're looking for great fertilizer on the other hand food processes in your system and you get on and says you know I'm not sure I want to get a trainer I don't know what to look for that person well you want somebody that's interested in you somebody that can communicate number one became on my roof and what have you been doing with yourself since you've moved out here I left my profession when I was eight sixty I style the tone it down I just don't want to a woman or it was in great shape or a guy who's got bulging muscles and you don't want somebody you know what's a good clue if the introduces sadness when you are healthy and feel good producing serotonin the good worthless I can tell you but there's a few things probably on the market worth looking into we hit the road show believe that everybody has a story to tell and the benefits of the vitamins and minerals so no I don't use any I'm not going to downplay them there's a lot of stuff that has absolutely the driving so I won't say a speeding ticket was never a problem and was an eighth straight a student was probably heading toward naively school was in the because I would have to go to trial I was sitting next to somebody who could go away for five ten years and you know you don't you WanNa make sure you're doing everything you can to prevent a fourteen year old boy and it had to do with exchange of drugs seventeen year old boy was had no prior record was a honor roll and it just shows how you can redeem yourself and this involved a seventeen year old boy who is charged with murder Tad and his family sitting behind you and the craze aspirations or on you and you really feel like the race source that needs to win the or maybe trying to sell you supplements at the SEATAC and that brings me to next question is do you do you believe in the supplements we've got us all the the over the counter you don't even move the furniture in his room when you sit down you know if you WANNA know how strict the was when you sat in his chambers medicine of vitamins as much and you just have a half the lifestyle and not only that but the cortisol in your brain when you're on health went to court unfortunately drew probably the toughest judge possible the toughest judge he had a reputation well as an attorney I had a lot of interesting cases and I'm thinking of few now as we talk and one in particular comes out food and a star athlete he was facing life in prison never had just now completed high school went on to college once you left the profession and moved onto the trainer profession any stories from the train okay what does anything else manner if you don't have your health what do you look for to look for certifications do you look for experienced so you have someone that comes in and so they say cocaine brain any specific stories related to your past careers are your current career for that matter dude senior and all of a sudden he's faced with the prospect of sitting in a jail or prison for the rest of his life a handed them in a wheelchair money what isn't matter if you don't have your I mean what is a matter that you have a big state enough and a very tense situation every time we chambers and they they finally agreed that they would let him off at a Ivy League type school became an engineer and now heads and manages has a family three or four kids so we started a trial and it ended up got one year in the house correct with a manslaughter charge by twenty is eighteen to twenty s so there's the end of his life essentially end of his life repercussion well I can think of several people one in particular who had a distant this disability anonymous type of disability and I was training that person and that person had you made sure that the chairs of that the legs of those cheers didn't the move because if they did he let us up until age fifty seven so it's never too late never mind becoming a trainer it's never too late to get started even if and now heads a huge I don't want to mention the name of the company but huge conglomerate aw amazingly they were able by themselves because that person was alone was able and that kid today is the head of the big corporate department and a went onto ear or do you find that you're able to relax because you're truly doing what you want I was helping people in both Koreas I felt I was and you have heart disease and your cholesterol and diabetes really think about that you wouldn't have to go to the doctors as much you wouldn't be taken as much helping people in both areas but in the first career other than financially I wasn't helping myself I had never been a member of a gym in my life to move that heavy structure that had fallen on top of just from the strength that she had from hopefully from the training and everybody thinks that once somebody's in there that's where they belong they should stay there but this kid did well I mean he did well he took advantage of don't be a trainer and teach people so music do you have a favorite artist musician song and if mark they touch on subjects of anything from health to fitness to mindful eating wellness and and he said I flew to New Jersey to to to

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and jack benny's beverly hills mansion in everyone having a good time but certainly having a a good time when you give your guest good food a big orchestra and the champagne flows like water how can you miss well close the window rochester we can't watch ronald koeman party all night big joe off the close the window good now helped me off this box yes and watch out for the binoculars killer they're pretty long i'll say the long three times butler announced mr harold lloyd yeah never mind does help me down rochester i just can't understand it what will the coleman's on i our next door your neighbors and when ronnie i moved in i used to go to all his party's but the last few years he's had a dozen big affairs and i haven't received an invitation to a single one of them what do you suppose oppose it could be maybe lost you address yeah yeah well come on let's finish our game jeremy army trying to throw a card yeah let's see now i you discarded the ten clubs and the three of spades ah the six of hearts the jacket diamonds the ada hearts the five-speed what's so funny it sure helps when you've got them written down look you play your way and i'll play mine i hate to break up my hand but this the only safe card i can give you here you are the king of speed yeah you lucky deal them up again rochester are you sure i didn't get an invitation to coleman's party positive they must've sent me an invitation and got lost in the mail excuse me a minute what are you doing boss i'm gonna call a post office i'm going to give i'm a piece of my mind while you're lost down they didn't deliver the gas bill this month either in your play rochester g i got a pretty good hand this time you'll need it wive live again that's the most unusual hello hello here's this mr benny yes we're always his sure what mr coleman's woman's butler oh yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes mr colin trifling battles tweeden broach the subject of this late hour now that we're having a party i know i know one hundred and eighty three guests i say you've been on that box again the devil aren't any rate mr coleman taught you might like to slip into your acceder and come over what i certainly i certainly would share it i'll i'll be glad good and remember you serve from the left and removed from the right look show i'm i'm not waiting on tables for ronco one or anyone else goodbye nerve they can keep their party i'm i'm just happy here at home with you but boss i'm going out tonight going out we're going to stay with me i'd like to but i made plans take the night off but rochester you off last week oh you're not counting tuesday night if why not that's when i had my bandage bandage take him out what's the difference you didn't get home until three in the morning the whole ninety one for that well tonight off better get started then okay i'm gonna you put a tie on everybody wants time off what i do with myself all night sony someone i could play cards with i wonder if home he cheats is going to be a boring evening maybe i ought to wake up my para nationally cheats to in what hello hamas debenham dennis o. dennis what do you want kid nothing you're going to be home tonight yes why well i thought i might come over and visit you oh wonderful dennis come on over sure you're going to be home i'd hate to make the trip or nothing look i'll be the home all night come on okay go away come by i'm ready to go boss but if you really mind standalone allied rochester is there dentist yes call he's coming over to keep me company that's nice it sure is let's see i wonder what i can serve them well bred and some cold cuts in the refrigerator graduated dennis has such a sweet to have we plenty of candy or yeah with not carlos tootsie rolls licorice and some old henry bars of good i want them in the machine i know i can do it you run along okay good night so long rochester gee it's nice a dentist to want to spend the evening with me the sit around he'll talk to me discusses problems drive me nuts where's that bottle of aspirin here it is i'm glad i bought the large economy size i can hit them over the head with anyway anyway i'll be alone so it'll be nice now who can that be benny fairness how'd you get here so fast i was next coleman's party what what got here sooner but i walked look down time a no mood for any show not so loud if they find out i'm with you they might let not let me back in you might not have got that line out either they look dennis just because you got invited to the coleman's and i don't have to be such a big shot but boy it sure some party so you don't know what you're missing you really having fun i'll say joe dimaggio was dancing with marilyn monroe and i cut in how'd you make out not so good josue tall for me all this hey you wanna see all the big stars that are there one of them was so snooty what what do you mean snooty for three times i talked to harold lloyd and he didn't even answer me then us look and he's so peculiar all of a sudden we let through a window look we were having fun why don't you go back to your party don't even wanna hear my song for the marsh oh no i don't it will cheer you up all right all right go ahead and cheer me up i've changed my mind then okay what a sore head sings song we'll take a break october twenty fourth nineteen fifty four the jack benny program on classic classic radio theatre nothing is more important than protecting your family and property that's why you should make a free call right now to vivid the number one smart home services provider in the US vivian will make your home safer and more secure with a state of the art system that's so simple to use vivian smart home specialists provide award winning monitoring of your system twenty four seven seven three sixty five to respond to any emergency even when you can't and with the four point five star rated vivid smart home mobile app control your entire house from anywhere locks cameras security any system all at your fingertips on your 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you'd like to take in a movie with me a movie gee i'm glad you thought about it that's a wonderful idea i didn't have anything to do tonight i've been to a movie in months when did you get the passes i don't have any well then why in the world would oh well all right let's go maybe dennis china's go with us where is he he's standing under your stomach it then don't laugh on them too young danas you want to go to the movie with us sure west playing well i was going to the palisades drive in they're showing that new english film they're murdering piccadilly all let's go there and also got a surprise second feature i hear they've had some i'm great ones lately i like that too feature that sounds pretty good i've never been to a drive-in let's go hold on a second hello mr being guess who's these let's see sir cedric hardwick no barry fitzgerald yet getting close i'm getting close well who is it how come you said i was close when i said barry fitzgerald next well well it's nice either call mr kits well how are you currently i'm out of being out of danger what was wrong told you ooh see you really my room jim started acting up uh-huh again i contacted us i can bution which had any voice it pick on my record debating in simultaneously yeah i suffered from streptococci through yeah well i'm i'm sorry to hear that give blue cross wash out i can imagine the reason i called my brother-in-law brittany visiting me and i wondered if you could get tickets through your television show next sunday for your brother-in-law yes i i believe i can can you also get tickets for the tom i miss nelson groucho marx missing mitzi who else mr kitty certainly nice to your brother-in-law each pleasure get him out of the house also you get him kicked gets to jackie gleason show but that's a new york burlesque bless you i'll see what i can do mr gets goodbye mr well come on let's go to the movies come on dan i gotta go now goodbye mr loyd dana's get away from those binoculars come on fellas my cars in the driveway doc hey i think we're getting there the drive in theater is a cowboy picture at the strand danny hugo where we go jack jack stop the lights changing okay in the hope we get in at the start of the picture theatres right on the next block yeah there's kind uh-huh alternative here jack after winding driveway to the box office i've never been a drive in in the booth yeah yeah congratulations you it ever since you left the street i've been biding my man i don't want any cracks about my car resent mccaw aw i thought it was a flying saucer that made a badland never mind how much the ticket dollars and forty cents that's eighty he here's the money jack i'll keep it down i'm paying for this i wanna pay for my share silly displayed it up i'll pay per everyone draw let me pay for the ticket no no i'm gonna pay eight for please let them pay i'm fighting my nails oh five dollar bill o. two the five to six here you all come on jack driving inside okay it sure is crowded here in this drive in theater i don't see any empty spaces well why don't you follow the car in front of you know where he's going okay you're following the wrong car that other one turn laugh he did not i'm doing the driving take back from legrand jewelry aw who jackie went all the way out of around the theaters there's nobody listened to me well hang on i'm going back in not so fast they will be to forty talking about we paid you one we'll go get so happy it was those money i don't care whose money being sarcastic why don't you tell a follower we walking see the section eight goal there it all right jack i think i see a space in the next role better hurry because somebody the else gets it no big tight squeeze watch your side down here i go mom plenty enroll over here to the right the right to the right come on hole the light make up your mind thad five thousand ride in iraq and a laugh now al herman don't make a scene of what do you think they was talking to queen mary hall down little fella does your side down first let's all settle back and watch the movie she he i don't like the angle from here what's wrong with it the actor on the screen has appointed had you're looking in the mirror yeah i think we're a little too far to the side maybe we could get something more to the senate look i had enough trouble finding space i'm not moving so forget i woke up baby off for goodness sake give her the meal catch a made a tool hot ah holding holding they met you told me to be quiet hop on what you're look you baby up all right right i'm sorry i didn't intend to and i apologize we're all here to see a movie so let's relaxed and enjoy ourselves i wanna be friends certainly okay stick looking out the window all right there you see i posted a bottle was to i got a lot of nerve you'll burn my what do you want to do what the other kids the other kids billy tom and suzy thicky and having a light sleep they wake up they'll disturbed katie alice melvin julius and the twin children of god knows 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killa this is exciting yeah i begins kissing him again what's the picture starring stop blowing your heart not growing it stop it must be a short wire we i can't hear who the murderer in something something john i'm hitting it won't stop the automobile club i can't they blackballed yeah i'm so embarrassed satisfy of being next to me why don't you move i should move i should move did you hear that this joint comes in potus everybody eh quick model hold the baby i'm afraid i'll look there's no sense saying winging why don't you take that space over the next raw all maybe you're right some people just won't let you have a good time here jake next to this convertible there now maybe we can enjoy the picture come closer cynthia your kisses this is do something to me and yours thrill me too but robert hi worry so what if your wife catches us impossible double abigail thinks i'm out of town for the weekend the whole family you wonder if i should tell abigail now why get involved thereabouts 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ivan shark ordered his chief breath to drop bombs near the lonely cabin sheltering months donovan pinky drake and slim pool in order to drive them out into the hands of facts roseman waiting outside also in the cabin is another of ivan chart henchman by let's dolinger who has never uttered a word since he he was pulled from the wreck of his plane it is now almost duck thinking and ma are guarding the wounded pilot zola nerve while the opposite corner slim and patchy are talking and low tall but what do you think all i can say is kept midnight and chuck got back here a coup feeling slim i'm i'm sure something must have happened to them come on man don't be saying that i can chuck coughlin and lunch tighter spots elitist you want to be forgetting about when this is the shark had them in the rear compartment that they're flying machine he is i'll never forget it was then mara was escape i ever heard of that had been pinky and me are uses your would have been oh cool i still can't figure out how they got out of that spot gosh didn't you ever hear about what happened that's all we're you know we're a compartment shots chalked airplane had a trap door in the floor the whole floor was nothing but a big door which was hinged at the side so they will drop down from the middle grizzly how high wasn't wasn't over fifteen thousand feet and just before i haven't shock sprung the trap chuck founded secret panel which opened into the tail section of the ship in this way chuck and kept him tonight foil chart sneaked up to the front and overpowered ivan shock and his daughter fury and after all that you're worried about him now sure i am slim did you ever hear about the law of averages no or not well i mean it's too much to expect the captain midnight is always going to get out of scrapes come on now keep your chin up you sure do like at midnight a heat don't you stay i do you know slim well my dad died a long time ago and since we've all been together on this vacation mexico oh i've gotten to know read awfully will sort of like a second father to you lyn that's about it when i look at here you ain't got no reason to think anything happened to him it's almost dark slim and it was early afternoon when they left and you know perfectly well they didn't have gas enough to stay up all this time or do but they don't prove they could land its it's on worries that's just what i'm afraid of they had to land somewhere that they don't get here pretty soon these fellows around this we'll start shooting again and all they won't neither does lay get thinking medium you notice they fired a shot for the last hour that's true but what will happen after it gets dark they get real close and we wouldn't see them we started worrying in about that when the time comes they get to the outside of the cabin just as they did two major steel and but commonly here patchy we'd let him do nothing like they have not you meet in a steel if the gun listen it's a plane i'm sure the laurie free they're now you're to get captain midnight it must must be issue maybe the plane okay slim donovan house at pilot out of the race did he not kidding buddy sean knows what's going on either during showroom midnight with mattie was called he earned hideous museum patrick warning the open seat looks like a bomb but it didn't go on it must be a warning a real one would have exploded i think we'd better be getting out of here that might be why don't you go back there and see how thinking that pilot or getting along maybe the excitement of starting don't i'll be right back listen slim i didn't want to scare them but i'm sure that pilot is warning us to get out of this cabin before it's too late i think you're right that's even if there are monoxide we'll have to take our chances perhaps they think midnight is here too and they're getting desperate and i guess you might be right i think i hear that again yes heated off to one side you're up pretty high and maybe go outside and if he starts diving again we'll take a shy and why you're doing that those fellas on the ground outside this cabin might get you just the same look like the only thing to do things you do look i can see exactly what's happened these men surrounding we just haven't been able to get us out so shocked sent one of his pilots to scare us out of here comes back again the only one who scared no pink years to what him scared what he hasn't even denying you mean that pilot is scared you're talking about anybody else why did you scared half to death to look into this is i looked into people's i was scared to death and yet tap caller me i guess you know who up their the plane's coming back again lamb we just gotta get out of here and run born magi argued that way hurry you speaking of that pilot gives me great idea what do you mean he's going to save us even even a became talk where he won't wanna say but he's still our prisoner and it's a scene cheese connected with these other families they wouldn't shoot panel here so we'll use him at his shield and walk him alfred says we leave his cabinet swell idea slim we didn't think of it the whole act we didn't need to think of it until his diving around up there started dropping hints to get outta here i'm on making get-go one i had to pull up to speak with you tap now all right i'll open the door we're going to use this pilot as a shield pink good passing i'll keep him colored gun streaming can cover the rear i probably be back any older door now there you we mean business partners got a finger on the trigger everything you're going auto leaders outta here and if you so much as one false move you'll be a quick and you've got to say jack rabbit if you know how to talk at whole abby now now marsh doors fellow is coming off sites preservatives and patchy then frame komo bring up the rear vettori getting push halfway doing fine come on that was pretty take off now anyway he's not trying for us he's aiming for the cabinet still coming you get pulled have one sharks horror i guess we can slow down here sure absolutely spanking turning before coming back far enough in the cabin children we're all right even be hit line they don't you worry slim got this control a head over this way because i think we can get some protection over there among them rocks juicy anybody around maryon anybody's watching they're keeping head they don't do anything to us or they might hurt one of their own men i'm sure glad we captured him he makes us well the prize i stood wishing i was back in black fellow again he's studying straight for the take a patsy and the authors reached safety in time luckily they discovered a key which afforded them good shower we now find them sometime later wind is whistling through the threes as patsy says what time is it now slim reporter twelve i thought he would be back by this time knew you'd be here for two quake quick i ain't worrying about him we wish you're lucky to find this cave micah that's been playing possum all the time doesn't go to sleep while she's watching watching you she won't she's our that gun right in their lap i think he was wrong kevin you must have been wrong around said wasn't kappa midnight the joke was we sure didn't get no answer when you had like an easy way back in grammar school when we did that chuck is probably forgotten in your speaking now once he found out anything it is on bought patching sure pinky you bet on him there's two of them and and they're under a big three down the hill ways again fast he i guess the cap midnight on trump answer high at once more all right this is the last last time but there's no answer this time temp each here goes no wonder mournful screech owl had a familiar song to chart but under the tenth strain of the moment will he remember number utah events human lives depend upon what happens in the next few minutes fail to tune in tomorrow to captain midnight which i don't remember if you haven't already joined captain midnights new 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number thirty thirty where the rubber me too road actually i'm not even sure what that means speed the radio network live at heart news feed dot com this stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's service jelly newscast for october the twenty fifth twenty nineteen i'm mike clifford a fast moving wildfire spurred by powerful winds burn through northern california on thursday the washington post reports it forced thousands of people pulled evacuate parts of cinema county that is rural wine region north of san francisco pacific gas electric the state's largest utility told state regulators thursday that a jumper a one of its transmission towers broke close to where the officials say the fire started although peachy ni cut power in the area on wednesday the post ads stretches of the company's high voltage power transmission lines were still operating in the area where the fire broke out out that's also according to a statement from utility undocumented immigrants who have arrived in the US as children will be joined by community leaders allies as we data say begin a two hundred thirty mile home is here march to washington d. c. the march is being time to arrive in the nation's capital on the day the supreme court hears arguments and a lawsuit challenging the trump administration's termination of the deferred action for childhood arrivals program or daca the program was instituted the tooted in two thousand twelve and allows immigrants who were sixteen or younger when they were brought to the united states to go to school and to work without fear of deportation antonia oneal alarcon is a plaintiff in the case he points out that for many dhaka recipients this country has been their home since they were very young plays that we collapsed down place and we have friends a place where we work there are approximately seven hundred thousand people enrolled in dhaka the supreme court is expected to issue a ruling by june of next -ext year i'm andrea sears reporting lower federal courts have ruled the termination of daca is a lawful and of issued injunctions allowing the daca recipients chance to renew their status the state of michigan joining the list of states making moves to expand overtime pay on thursday governor gretchen whitmer announced is to proposal to increase the threshold for overtime pay two salaried workers who earn less than roughly fifty one thousand dollars an hour the current overtime pay threshold is about twenty three thousand dollars ars san england with progress michigan explains that nearly two hundred thousand more michiganders' would qualify for overtime pay according to whitford ministration the number of people all that are eligible for overtime pay has actually decreased quite a bit over the last decade especially it's basically trying to right the ship in that way president donald trump recently he released a final rule to extend the overtime pay threshold to about thirty five thousand dollars whitmore's plan is in line with an obama administration level that was blocked by the courts california massachusetts new york pennsylvania and washington also are working on similar increases mary sherman reporting this is PMS with the opioid crisis pushing more children into foster care and west virginia supporting foster parents more crucial than ever julia hamilton china's foster parent of two in morgantown she says she wishes case workers were able to touch base more often with her especially to help her two year old son who was born born addicted to drugs and has special needs a new survey being sponsored by the west virginia foster adoptive kinship parents network is looking for input from foster parents such as hamilton to get lawmakers to give them more support just give us a voice at the table would be life changing because right now it truly really focus as like it doesn't matter what we have today is not taken into consideration when making decisions for that child the parents network is partnering with marshall university and the state's department of health and human resources to develop the survey foster parents can participate at WD foster parents dot org i'm diane bernard reporting conservation moves pressing congress outta make good on promises to fully fund the land and water conservation fund jason o.'neil is with the western values project he says wyoming's national parks and public lands are stuck in limbo we've seen a lot of promises made by western senators but when it comes to the rubber hit the road and actually getting done despite those promises congress has an act on this critical funds congress permanently reauthorized the fun back in march but the trump administration proposed budget has zeroed out the money for the parks and public lands fun finally are eric lavas tells us texas schools using refrigerated refrigerated freight containers converted into hydroponic forbes as an extension of the classroom at idea charter school students learn how to grow leafy greens and other vegetables and deliver their harvest directly to the school cafeteria carolina cats rufus with free farms says schools are using the farms in part to shift traditional food culture her and improve health by giving students nutritious options in the san antonio idea schools campus they don't use salt sir pepper in their cafeteria and they're grilling herbs specifically in their farm to make a seasoning the university of north texas is also using the container farms as has a lab for a wide range of hands on learning opportunities in biology organic chemistry nutrition and culinary arts as well as business computer science and marketing long many schools have developed certificate programs and majors around sustainable food production which gives graduates a leg up on joining the growing act tech field or starting starting their own farm by the way those potato farms are also hoping laura's schools overall carbon footprint 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presents the new law that abner show it could air division of general motors bring your friend you kind of visit with those characters down in pineridge majoring heart has been withers gloria blondel the music got felix males and starring your old favorites lum and abner the laura uh we looking at on the little community of pine ridge we find find lum and the johnson store blocking avenues path to the door listen now wait a minute abner where do you think you're going i've got the meal this letter for ed stoddard now why would add started wanting to me a letter for him he's the postmaster well not fair awali inc see this letters to the post office department telling him to send out a substitute substitute for take his place why what's wrong with that you know high absent minded he's been getting here late on on just the other day i theme song and along in the rain holding his hand out in front of him like he's carrying umbrella he told me later he didn't realize he'd forgotten tila raines donnie reached up to close yeah well you just wait you hear this he drove home last night november dry 'way got out open the garage door and one as seen the garage was empty yell help somebody stole my car donny and warmer and she we hear commotion thought he was a thief and soda iron skillet hit him on the head that woke up the neighbor's dog and he started chasing him name kayla we thought it was somebody asking battery chickens so he takes a shot on the air and now ed is flat in bed only stomach alive live i don't know where the got the car back or not news you sound like you be laid up for a while well why written this letter they get a substitute you you better get that in the mayo creek or wait a minute we hear who don't give me that letter you mail it i'm gonna tear it up don't do that and i'm gonna the government a favor i ain't no using spending all that money to send a substitute out to pine ridge wanted a man right here that can handle the job full of buckshot i don't mean a eh i mean me you yes sir with my federal brains run that post office like it ain't never been run before in there l. talk this fine you cut out reading in postcards you ain't the postmaster i am be is having trouble with george again again i'm going to have to throw you right out of the post office he called george keeps falling off the wagon dampener hope he didn't hurt you i don't know george but he must not be very smart long keeps falling all thank you learn how to set in a wagon and hang on i'm african avenue that mail is you ask give him an property tampering with it is a federal offense and on top of that if l. simpson ever caught you reading her post i guards she'd massacre u roby says next time she sees george she is going to shoot abner give me that card law this is here's rubies i don't care what she's gonna do here comes l. simpson she'll do worse than that oh my goodness and more and made samson my mom are you on the post stop us now i'm the new letterhead how about some nice fresh stamps today no thank you say you got an email from me a yeah i believe the is a poster just happen to have it in my hand here i ain't got the lease i neither but you better get in touch with throw me right away okay that george is going to get it but you say abner he said that's a gorgeous his bonnet where'd you get it i got it over to the county seat i only paid a dollar ninety eight sanford for sure don't look like well everything cost twice what it ought to nowadays theon new job here thank you sister sampson again law hop a juice dan they're talking about hats went into murder going on this and you ought to be ashamed yourselfer reading somebody else's male yelled at the lowest sneak in it's one thing human can do law group is going to shoot jolo she ain't all it said was the next time ruby fees george he's gonna shoot him a game of snooker that's a game i ain't even played only trouble now she's liable to clubbing with a pool cue you know that goes she went on to say real i don't know what it said why don't you get on back to the john i'm down store all right but what wanna come down here to tell you whether to better gave up this post office john klom squire skimp says you're gonna get yourself in trouble squad you julius while he says oh you don't know nothing about the post office regulations oh don't i just stick around and watch how i handle the next customer i'll show you who knows about postal regular well i got a good into work all caught van weather old house the new postmaster oh get along just fine NBN i wonder if you could send a registered letter for me lung you bet your life registered yes you're going to have the left engine all schorr wash your hands registered you wouldn't want to just send that spatial it'd be liberal with you all right good but i wanted to register do all right damage this never said a word what what you're thinking then you want this letter registered yes registered collect how about send airmail i wanted registered low yeah i bought some matter mr postmaster having trouble and hacia i want that sent delivered to address the only i thought you wanted registered you've got a rubber stamp there that says delivered to address the only on just stamp on the envelope well that's simple enough sure here we are again soon being late that's the wrong staff that says return substantial address admirable you get out of here maybe a better let me get back there and fictious letter up right now you stay right where you're being i'm the postmaster here master see now what you're supposed to do an accident take the postmarks tapping counselor castle you mean and you don't want to send it after all i want to send it and i've got registered because i'm enclosing quite a sizable amount of k. one dollar and twenty nine cents is that all fine i'm sending can of captains proves quick caulk what in the world is that yes ooh captains braga mild ID inventor of the flat bottom canoe has done it again oh how old he hasn't better caulking material for amending both leaks which can be a plane underwater bunny put it on with a fountain PM the laugh ilana but i was present when the captain personally tested brooks quit caught in the waters of beautiful lake silk well don't tell us about it yes they will a large crowd was on hand captains broke launched his flat bottom canoe with with nothing aboard but i'll have to an account sprigs quick calls we have added the putty knife was very interesting to see you later this defeat from charlotte tap them raise the hatch in full view of the spectators and chop foothold in the bottom of the canoe oh my six the crowd gas the captain calmly laid down the hatchet picked up the countless blogs about the audience and step over the side to repair the i think i'll be dead blamed forty five minutes later all the water had been pumped out of captains brooms the plans were underway to dredge the canoe bridgford they never did find the putty knife the about this registered letter for them enough captains moved how do you know we'll just look what stamped on the envelope returned insufficient address you're right so lucky thing i found this out before i sent the letter long it well mr postmaster ashore handle that something wonderful least ways i never lost no money on the transaction why don't you give up this IT right here and now you've been postmaster master per a whole half a day and you ain't sold nickel's worth a stamps or nothing else you know what i don't understand it buddied think i didn't know a thing about business guests it is easy to get that impr- i don't think it's me i think it's the system this place is in a rut brandon's take take them three cents stamps they're they've been selling them for the same price for years and years well you're right there yeah why don't they ever have a sale on them i i don't ever again two money orders for the price along the matter with this outfit anyway just old time i reckon lambda i i've 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got a brain in his head i guess you'd better grab starring hunting for wait a minute wait a minute comes along swan that boys slowest more than ever breath hoti will got the beans about time saturday taking you so long you got the beans yesterday attorney there's one but it takes me all night long to cook them foulland sakes hedrick we never worn them cooked cores notch you can't count cook beans leans now get over to the johnnym down store and get a jar of uncooked ones and hurry up oh what kind do you want maybe beings yeah they're fine the kidney beans are nice all right get candidates being karanis i wish you to clear out here for i go stark raving mad crazy both of you go get the beans but hurry back abner goes i'm going to need your help quick is the rich star all our call me neither central girl and have her ring the fire alarm so as i can make a public announcement about to sail over the party oh hello hello maimi this islam matters and i want you to rank the name lum edwards and that's right down star dry calling him at the post office i wanna go him i'm sure you'll find him at the pos stall on no i will go that's where i'm at now who over the message forum what he comes look naming i just want you to ring the fire alarms whose name are you calling i fed ring the fire alarm fire live well i am tailback by look mamie i don't thank you understood me law matters you can reach humidity kepala mom you're wrong captain hasn't road so i wanna spend this registered letter after all just dandy great now you get back there and registered yourself i'm leaving i'll be back later where are you going lum buying the answer was less the post office i'm matter it's fair though he just stepped off for a minute when he comes in tell them some knucklehead once what's his name oh i'll tell him to call right away sorry what can i do for you sir i'm inspector burden or the postal department and i i want to see the postmaster yes you must be the knucklehead the operator my i beg your pardon yeah while mr edwards is out outright now but he ought to be back shortly the postmaster here while not really the real one is home in bed so must read words appointed himself postmaster taunted himself wait a minute did you say you were with the US postal department pies certainly did well my spires then you must know hilmer gross i do yeah helmer was when the post office game for a number of years postmaster mad i d ever had until they fired him for being conscientious i've never heard of a man being fired for that well that's what happened to hilmer his wife even even divorced in monochrome oh come now helmet gruesome loved the post office work so much that he delivered every letter that came in personally when you kind of think officials moved to hatfield helmer stamp please forward on the letter and personally delivered the kenneth hatfield i don't think they discharge him for that then the letter are came in for redford kelp who had also moved helper did the same for him where'd redford moved to somewhere in northern finland finland on his return a year later missiles burleson based hirsute on desertion helmer put up the defense that he was so far north the days were six months long long was only gone two days he lost the case well tell me more about this mr edris risk at postmaster grow some now runs a small finnish steam bath the mild eighty i don't care about him what about this mr edwards oh he's not here right now he's out making final arrangements for these stamps stamp sale look i'm going to drop in the later and have a chat with this mr edwards but don't you telling he certainly certainly am and have by granny's abner there's ozone let them come in get will wait a minute lawmakers one more sign wink put up in which and this and that says fall clarence sale all postage stamps drastically reduced to half price oh yeah yeah stand that and right up over the ink well there and that reminds reminds me did you end up the pinpoint me and cedric 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pillows and mike lindell puts his name on it that you will too all righty on classic radio trap up this episode of abner october twenty four thousand nine hundred forty eight and see how well lum's changes in the post oh stop a skit over i just don't understand why the old postmaster never thought of any of these ID's he never imagined get ready get ready gonna when it comes our first customer real good making thank we're doing a big business and that will help the sale who is at i don't know it looks like some outta town mm stranger he ain't a local stranger whoever he is gene never seen a post office run like i'm running this the comment mr tom ryan my name's burton but you're just in time for the big sale mr burton yeah see that sign china whether three senators to to center one san ant- just how many stamps have you sold at this rate well aw hundreds of them just hundreds that's interesting tell me more about this sale sounds even better than i imagined oh you you hear about it and you were from outta town aging yes i'm from washington washington well what do you know about that show you about advertising will do they want to know is which one of you is responsible for all this well i don't like to brag on myself but i'm your oh man you may be right i helped the good i want that information to wow thank you now let's see now your mr edwards aren't you yeah that's mr edwards do you know anything tall about postal regulations them all moldy wore out things i'm making up a whole new set you are you might say i'm revolution the whole postal system he's almost revolt and postmaster this account every year just saying that mom everybody says they love me aaron binary mr have you informed washington of any of those little changes your making well not quite yet i'm going to surprise prized on them all at once i'm gonna make monkeys out of them old fogy oh yeah would you like to take a chance on the punch board yes e- to get the lucky number you get a free money order is incredible oh you ain't nothing yes he that beans there guess how many beans they are in it mr burden try three thousand four hundred seventy nine on what is some kind of a game yeah see whoever guests is closest to the number of beans in there gets postal savings account with double the regular interest interest for two years double the interest you can't possibly mean that oh you don't know me mr burton when they give them and find that what i'm doing here they'll have me working for for the rent demoralized mr ed you took the words right out of my mouth hurt well don't jump all over me long on they were no mr burton with a post office inspector and that's what i get for hiring unexperienced experienced help well i don't know what you're kicking about he dropped the charges again only don was just forbid due to ever i set foot inside that both office again as long as you live and pounded his fist and the leader i don't care so much about that it's just downright right humiliating to have him hold that election to find the most reliable man in pine ridge to take my place but i can tell you right now i don't care who the elect he don't he's standing here outside the post office winter waiting firm to count the votes further here's been with us getting ready to read the results listen here's how voting tallies up all right as he's trunk that permit gets to walt bench gotcha seven for wall and here's your most reliable mine must've mr button with three hundred thousand nine boot all right fine it's who is it this'll set the post office back twenty ears word in in here lomb now that you're the official postmaster y you get to read all a postcard so what does this in hair hair say oh hits abernathy boys do his mama yeah all three of them boys with the guilt you know one of them's in the army and one's in the navy navy and the other could trade and this is from sued he's the one at alcatraz uh atoll satisfied tober twenty record one thousand nine hundred forty eight 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just as soon not be reminded of tom's cleverness embezzlement writing risque if that's cleverness i don't want any part of it turned himself in a chance that maybe if he goes back to barbados we can find in there and yup looking one small detail oh you and i are now in the same spot tom chase waters were alone on this album and there's no way off in tonight and every weekday night bob bailey transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed expense hence account america's fabulous freelance insurance investigator truly johnny dollar from special investigator johnny any delay location lago silent three hours by boat from barbados in the british west indies a home office universal adjustment bureau hired connecticut assignment the fan of chase matter expense expense account continued i was getting nowhere i've been been on the trail of tom chase ever since he'd embezzled one hundred twenty thousand dollars from his new york investment firm and jumped bail i in new orleans there a man named freddy quintana had offered to deliver chase for trice but quintana land up dead in an alley obviously tom chase didn't want to be delivered i'd finally tracked him to barbados and found a fisherman who told he brought chase jason's wife lola had flown by betas and insists on coming with me to the island hoping she admits husband attend himself in but instead chasing maneuver us away from the boat i rented an taken off in it and now lull and i were in the middle of nowhere but really nowhere but are we going to do janney now that's a good question police inspector whitsett baghdad bob betas told me that nobody comes near lagos island anymore not even fishermen maybe quite quite a while we don't even have any food well at abandoned house across the island where your husband was hiding could be this food in it that he brought would you do me a favor johnny what is it i just assumed you didn't keep calling tom my husband his name legally yes when i found out he wasn't traveling alone that it was a woman who arranged his hiding place in new orleans just quick thinking in my husband all how do you think of now is it confused animal on the run it doesn't seem very confused to me one thing i don't get though that well i'm not in barbados before you arrive when and chase slugged me over the head and the waterfront warehouse why didn't he finish me off then he got a chance to take me off his trail for keeps and today here on the island those shots of his plenty wild johnny i keep telling you tom is no killer quite i know he's an embezzler running away from the law but i can't believe he killed that man tannin new orleans champa leave a won't believe won't believe i guess well i'm going to build a fire on the beach it's just possible about my past asks near enough to the way things work out all timing is always so bad oh me me here and rather taken stances i don't really think i'd mind being here with you at all johnny i i think i'd better start building that fire collected upon driftwood and brush him touched a match to take me when across the island to the house where chase him in hiding out it was a pretty ricky affair but he left some food and tweeden we went back and built the fire in higher drag by now is sure chase was getting five and five from me all the time but there was nothing i could do about it finally i guess does johnny look coming around to point out there a boat come on let's get out where they can see it's a matter that could be the fishermen who brought shakespeare if he's working with chase maybe he's coming trans finish this off a weight that's a police boat yes inspect thank heaven come on inspector yeah aside from getting shot at a couple of times girl hey pretty one sided go oh inspect your the most beautiful site we've seen all day advance over couldn't raise you by radio i decided to come and have a look see wrist rates who knows he penned down on the underbrush with a few shots while he circle around behind us and took the boat is he i wonder why about half way here i saw a boat in the distance was too far away from me to see who is in it which was heading back towards barbara's and let's get this both cranked up inspector maybe you've got a chance after all her i imagine barbados that's pretty good again do you do any dies inspector came along and looked like we were going to turn out to be lago silence citizens the incidents the dollar a chap named george emerson yeah sure he's the senior partner of the firm chasing the money from a new doc he's an old friend inspector why he dropped on me just before shoved off for you and your hotel here in barbados earlier and he said he was going to catch that's the first point he could and come down here mainly to take you back to new york johnny we've been all over this and i still think you what hey hold it as a matter that boat on the other side of the pier tied up there it's about went to the island yeah sure so chase did come back to barbados good i'll have the airlines in steamships watched and get word to the fishing and charter boats chases there i think we can keep them bottled up spec whitsett took off to cover all the basis and i did back to hotel george everson was waiting for me i took him to my room any luck on lagos island mr oliver bed you're sure it's really chase you've been trailing all away freddie freddie quintana new orleans stole a letter from one that he'd started to lola it match the sample of chases writing you gave me a new york and when he grabbed our boat on august island lola you gotta look at him and recognized him house lola holding up under all this oh i don't know she says she's all over being hurt when she found out there was another woman involved at killed half we're gonna chase i'm not so sure that neither my lola was completely devoted to tom she was badly hurt by his embezzlement nineteen she's still being hurt in any case i'd feel a lot better if she clear out you know i came down here to take her back on the way i started thinking about it as long as she is here perhaps she could be a big help to us also but i still think tom chase would listen to lower even if he wouldn't listen to anyone else nobody could change that much i wouldn't count on atmosphere everson still is it's worth a try now if it could only work out so the lowly could talk to tom or better yet if lulu and i both could talk to him well what would you say to him i don't know what lola would say but for me i'd i'd put it to him that he's only hope of straightening himself out is to turn himself in and turn over whatever the embezzled money is left all look even go so far as to guarantee eventual restitution to our our investors of whatever amount already spent i don't need to take time that's pretty generous of you mr everson but i'm afraid a little too late why in the first place tom shays obviously it's not going to turn himself in he's had plenty of chances to up to now and he hasn't exactly jumped at them but if it's well i think he's got a good reason for not turning himself in it's it's better than an even chance he's the one who knocked freddie kontena new orleans the man who offered to turn over to you for a price and that's the one on almost everson at this point of looks like there's only one way away from me to get tom chase and that's the track them down and drag him expense account twenty seven twenty american cab fare from my hotel to colonial police headquarters check with inspector whitsett who fortunately for me he was being most cooper hasn't contacted any of the airlines ah steamship lines rare in touch with the charter fishing boats he hasn't approached any of them so as we know in other words the chances are good that he's still hearing beta question is this where right again take a look at this map and you'll see a problem one hundred and seventy square miles more or less yeah he could be here in the city around the stick somewhere over here in the mirasol beach area doc that it's pretty fashionable spot didn't chase it to try to be as inconspicuous as possible so he's probably hiding out in the city here well there are scores of hotels and ruling i don't have enough here's report what's that here yes let's the address thanks yeah you're a man onset chases general description just check into hotel out in the north part of the city saloum at the end of the horn as to okay let's not be polite inspecting let's fused paschi that clark avis and parchment rightly empty closet nothing when does open and there's a fire escape see there because i'm the chair yeah that jacket it looks looks like the one he was wearing when he's white my boat on long island jewelry just mrs inspector i've been just missing him for the last ten days believe me i'm getting tired of it probably only by a few minutes to sure just a few minutes but it might as well a year i went back to my hotel i was the hallways one jump behind tom chase was getting on my nerves sure he was telling bob betas from where i was going catching him turning into a full time career career is getting fed up amazon my room i had a slight movement behind i realized all of a sudden and i wasn't alone turn around around why would it very still okay look i can save you some time it's my gun you're looking for in a show to host our side look yep i just had a real wild they said don't turn around and keep your hands inside okay my wild idea is is that your tom chase chase mind if i ask you a couple of questions why not why did you do it the embezzlement was it because of a woman it was a woman was turned sour soured all her she doesn't matter anymore and where's the money that doesn't matter either you won't get it i see next question why how did you come into my room chase i tried every trick going not shake you none of these work you've kept on coming i can't stand it anymore i'm sick zucca running give yourself up it's too late for that there's another way i've got to take you off my trail once you parole and wait a minute left sorry but that's the way it has to be dollar this is the end of the line for you and you know here's a star to tell you about the final episode of this story tomorrow the payoff but who gets paid off and how and why why well the answers to those questions surprise me plenty and maybe they will you to join us won't you yours truly johnny dollar in october twenty fourth nineteen fifty-six yours truly johnny valor here on classic radio theater if you'd like to contact take eat go to our webpage classic radio dot stream that's classic radio dot stream there you can find our classic radio theater programs learn more about classic radio collecting collecting contact me either by mail or through the internet classic radio dot stream and our programs are available anywhere they serve up podcasts all you have to do a search for USA classic radio theater that USA classic radio theatre thanks much for tuning in i'm wyatt cocks thanks for listening 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free talk live you you are invited to join us here toll free number is eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom that's eight five five five zero three seven three three we've got the discord discord on air colin line rooms over at discord dot l. r. n. dot FM jump into one of those if you wanna sound like you are sitting here in the studio to go with us and in that studio tonight you've got me in and me johnson kernan as a little late coming in here today okay because the phone was blowing up recently to what has gone on here was apparently somebody's in i guess imitating me impersonator online yet again and that is a little annoying but it has happened recently in the last couple of couple of i guess months mostly within the last month or so derek j. was also imitated by whoever this person is there's presumably it's the same scammer doing it over and over again and so it's been dare jay's been me i don't know who else he has or she has impersonated online but they will hit the hit people up on telegram they did key base as well so they we'll hit them up and pretend like i'm asking them for bitcoin and you know but you're the guy who should be given out bitcoin coin actually actually yeah so the person to obviously doesn't know me that well right but apparently the scam did work on somebody that dared j. new because these guys are you know they're caught artists i mean they're they're good at at building confidence and in and they'll usually the usually build a sense of urgency z. like oh i'm out of the house and i really you know i left my i think the excuse they made before was i left my hardware wallet at home and i'm not going to be in the office office till tomorrow i need to get point six bitcoin right now can you help me out and they you know they use the same photograph that i use and the same name came the end of these are services a lot of case cases where anybody can open an account now with something like like key base nice thing about key bases when you have an account on there you can link up all your different social medias and websites that you own and you can prove that you're the owner of those things so on your account account info page it shows you in freeman owner freetalklive dot com owner of freaking dot com because i do control those sites so i can put a little widget shit on their or whatever some something in the diaz basically that allows them to verify that i've verified the site twitter's the academy on twitter the account for me on mastodon no of course it's camera could go through and create similar looking accounts on those services and try to one a. n. freeman or the f. t. l. without an underscore or whatever it's something that looks very similar in the case of key base the scammer didn't bother to try to do that the key base when i clicked on the scammers profile profile all it showed was twitter for the correct twitter but it had a big red x next to it because he obviously couldn't actually verify that he he owned the twitter account so of course the more things that you have on key based the more likely you're the right person right so if it's only one thing that is showing as you will maybe that person hack your twitter account yeah right but if it's ten different things or seven different things or whatever so anyway beware this whoever this person is oh they've also hit people up on discord well so pretty much any platform that i've been on telegram discord and key base have all been hit within the the last month so i'm not going to send you a request for for bitcoin or any other crypto currency for that matter so if you do get one do please try to reach out to the real me and let me know if you were thinking about sending him crypto you can send it to me instead gladly accept it well the interesting thing was when people were calling this individual out whoever this person is because obviously it's a scammer or at least a lot of people was obvious to some people was persuasive but when they called the person out the guy's like well i didn't commit a crime just asking for this asking for a loan sneaky now he's committing the act of fraud pretending that he's someone he's not but he didn't actually steal money right like if you give money to a person on the internet who's who's pretending to be somebody that they're not you just got suckered you know i don't think there's an actual crime there it slimy it's it's bad it's not right but and you are the victim of fraud in that case maybe there is some sort of restitution that could be given if that person could be tracked down but you know you fell for it basically essentially that's one of those life lessons where hey you got a check your check your sources i mean i think that that's still you know that kind of fraud is still a criminal i mean they were going after somebody like brang cabinet abigail for a while right i mean the what did he do catch news about him he's just you know scam artist you know did a lot of different types of fraud about that i don't know if there was a specific crime that was anything different than those types of skims but what he'll say is he's just asking for alone right oh i was going to get back to you if you ask for a loan without the intent to repayment i believe that that was going to repay it wasn't asking for a loan he was asking her hand bounce no no no no it was alone he wants you to front and the point three or point five bitcoins so he can cover whatever he needs to covers the claim and then he'll get it back to you so never get it back to you but then he'll say well he's just enough evidence that there's probably some standard where if there's enough evidence to show that there was actually no intent of repaying that that constitutes a fraudulent action that's probably well if you're if you're gonna take ian 's name and his profile i mean that's that's the fraud right there it is fraud yeah that's definitely true but if you can't prove that the person wasn't going to pay you back right i mean the the fact that they're not using their real name name is probably evidence is probably evidence that they didn't intend to pay you back but i just wonder how would you know i don't want to find out how it would play out but i am mightily curious to know like how would that go yeah i'm going to carry out ca i i'd like to know how that kind of stuff what cloud in court to so if there are any lawyers that have dealt with fraud gazes listening that will be the topic to call in about if you have knowledge of how that stuff works right i mean because if that happens to be a thing that somebody knows about because i don't i don't necessarily know how that would work either i presume you can catch citrus and so the last last time or one of the previous times recently when they were hitting people up they hit up mark's wife and on telegram somehow and how they're getting all these connections i think we'd figured get it out of the time how they how they found her but anyway they hit up mark's wife but the person had a phone number on there telegram profile and so i looked up the phone number and and found the person's name would you know who was associated with that now i don't know anything about how you know stolen phone could be used in this maybe it wasn't actually the person whose name was on the account right but at least we had a name and so mark senate texts that person and of course they denied all involvement in whatever it was that was was going on so i mean where do you even begin to conduct an investigation on something like that how do you gather the evidence to catch at somebody that there's a good chance it wasn't the guy in boston or whoever it could have been somebody you know africa or wherever nigeria that the prince right it could have been i mean if you want to invest a lot of time in if you find out that person who has that number ray you go and interact with them as the scammer all right and have is on that person while you're messaging this camera and see if they're doing something yeah if you can find them right track them down somehow it's all very very difficult for you know how much you're going to actually get out of this th there's a good chance that there's there drug addict i'm saying this because i actually had some interactions with a scammer taken earlier i think it was early this year i got fooled by somebody on local bitcoins who is pretending to be another seller who i happen into no on local bitcoin like the dude i don't think he even knew that i knew this person but he happened to choose like one of the sellers who had happened to have met at a crypto tiptoe conference years ago and so i didn't do my due diligence and i got i got screwed over ended up finding out who the scam artist was turns out he's a like a doper in boston area who basically spends all his money gambling on heroin so he doesn't have any money any right it he's blown it all the way to either 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information for all these different individuals who are in some way connected with me unless they've actually cracked my real account and they haven't because you know if they were doing that i would see all the messages from on them with a real slim freeman please stand up so if you wanna comment here you're welcome to maybe you've encountered this before maybe you used to be a scam artist on the internet and you've changed your ways and you wanna talk about the the tricks of the trade so to speak you're welcome to join us here toll free number are you now a motivational speaker were you get up in front and tell people all the the evil that you went through during your young youth down when you're sowing your oats at least then you wouldn't be scamming people that sounds like yeah motivational speakers that's i think that's basically what they are although some would say that there's a scam artist i don't know i think there's a place for for self help i think that it can be colty i think that it can be expensive and i think there is a lot of not gonna say fraud but there's a lot of real questionable and i think they're feeding off of people who are experiencing a weakness in their own lives and they're it just it's the same thing with you know with some religions where you've had you have issues and you're trying to see the light and and you just looking for the best motivational speaker out there who could chirp you up in the morning you're looking for a left why do i have you know what are my reasonings for for for being and that's what those guys are you're really doing is repackaged it's the same old it's not to say there isn't some value or some wisdom a lot of these teachings it's just it's a lot of its three package it's old ideas old concepts that are just being promulgated again and again obviously every new generation some of these folks need to hear here this stuff for the first time but i mean is it really are you really going to get that much more out of a big seminars you are reading twenty dollar book i don't know i don't think ah i don't think you can get you know if the seminars thousand bucks and the book is twenty i don't think you're gonna get fifty times the value i think it really depends ends on what the messages it's being that is being delivered if it's pick yourself up by your bootstraps and take care of yourself take care of your life take care of you know your your your situation i think that type of message is actually good to go i think a prime example would be the whole peterson movement these days where jordan jordan jordan peterson this guy's a motivational speaker he's more of he's a he's a he's he's a canadian academic and basically he is his argument is personal responsibility and he's he's he's really popular with a lot of the youth a lot of the millennials who are just you know they don't know where it's all going and you know they've had everything offered to them on a platter and they all they all have their trophies in their case because that's when everything's been given to them and they're just exactly and they i don't think they don't feel connected to you know what's really going on out there and his his messages you know stand up cleaner damn room stop complaining and and and go fine go find purpose go do something get a job and that's what that's basically a lot a lot of people out there they need they need to stop complaining they need to stop blaming others that's envious of of the of other people in their you know the the good that has been been that they've found in their lives and and take responsibility and i i like the guy i think he's i think is pretty he's got he's got a pretty good message for four and academic seminars where he like you know rent a hotel for a weekend and you know you gotta pay grand or whatever and you go and watch them speakers i i'm not sure that he i don i don't think that's his racket he he speaks for free at least for free college they don't pay the writes books i mean there's era he's got one good good book out there and i know that he's making money off of that but i've got i don't be who've somebody for making money off putting good information out there but the thing that catapulted jordan freeman to to fame peterson sorry flab there's not a freeman's around so many so the he stood up to the woke movement right well the specific specific thing is that in in canadian law they know free speech yes so they were trying to make it so that miss 'gendering well he made it i guess this is the thing so miss 'gendering a transgender person is a punishable crime it's illegal how yeah and so does everybody wear name tags with his her she's a new so i mean his thought was no very clear i'm not going to do that he made it very clear that he was not going to follow the law right okay if someone came up bins and this this is my this is how i'd like to be presented this is who i am he would be happy to go along with you know i think you said it it depended a little bit on that respect isn't something that you just give out it's earned so i think for the most part he said he would but he did not say that as like a flat out absolutely lee you know he said most people are deserving respect but some people and this is true i don't know it's but yeah he's he's an interesting justin character anyway so did they ever arrest or anything like that no no he's just went through the they they i don't know if he's ever been arrested it would make sense that he may they have been his so he's made a public statement that he's not going to follow the law yes and they have not yet targeted for it yet interesting i mean he's he's he's had a lot of interesting counters at campuses for sure well if you want to join us here you can our toll free number's eight fifty five four hundred fifty free were talking about out started the show talking about internet fraud people behaving and or trying to pretend like they are other people in this case i was targeted once again today or rather my friends were targeted associates were targeted folks who know me to some extent oriented chat room with me they may not even know that well i if they don't know me that well they probably won't let me know that it's happening but a lot of people at least a dozen people probably before the show let me know that somebody was pretending to be me they're taking instagram photos from instagram profile and and acting like like one guy wanted wanted to see a picture of a friend of mine wanted to see a photo of the fake person proving that they were mean gene because he showed himself next to an ATM a bitcoin ATM out in vegas which was my instagram profile and he says we'll do something silly with your hand in front of your face to prove proved you know in front of the ATM so take another picture in front of the ATM with like silly hand signal or whatever and then he showed a picture of me from tokyo where i'm giving a peace symbol wearing completely completely different outfit right so anyway if you want to join the show you can't have you been taken by one of these online line scam artists what can you recommend i would recommend having been taken before by an online scam artist i would recommend the absolutely sure sure and that's getting harder and harder to do now in the in the days of deep fakes where we now have technology to where if you have a person's one photograph of a person they even did this with the mona lisa where they took and they mapped that person's face and they used computer supposedly to generate and then if you get enough voice from that person you can generate their voice we were just talking about peterson they did did the exact same thing there's hundreds of hours of him audio of him and they may create a short peterson defect and he made him say things very convincing eight fifty five four four fifty free so even if you're on the phone with the person it may not actually be them and it's just 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whatever you want here we're the number eight fifty five four fifty three that's eight five five four five zero three seven three three how can you be certain that the person you're talking talking to is the person who you think it is these days it's getting harder than ever to discern johnson during the break there you pulled up a video of of this jordan peterson was she was audio but it was and it was a jordan peterson singing the south park theme song which he has presumably never actually actually sung it did sound a little stilted a little robotic it was in his kind of his speech pattern it was his voice i mean they definitely it was also his speech pattern which he kind of talks like that and has these little pauses where he says something and then moves out of it he he has it so they did a good job of that you would say yeah i think so and the more of a more speech from a person that you have the better you can kind of map app their words if you're talking about we're talking about video the next step of DIA is to actually do the same thing with the video evidence that you have accumulated of that person correct and they're doing it on the late what the jimmy kimmel show i think doing it all the time there are they making their own they're they're doing live deep fake swaps ooh ooh that's pretty one of these comedians he can do the sport sinaga impersonation they changed his face to be arnie to be arnold live it was buki surreal and they'd had the ability to do that for years it's just getting better it's getting easier it's getting better and they don't need as much source material now to make a pretty convincing deep fake than they previously did and you know there's no telling what wars are going to get started oh yeah within some dictator that supposedly is all evil and his you know throwing their people in the gulag and whatnot and we've got to spread democracy and look what he said he killed who likud killed right you know it's time to start sending the missiles i mean that's scary scary now maybe it'll get to the point where people start to learn about this no and they stop believing what they're seeing no no you know that's that's a possibility healer stupid people people are people just want to be told what to do and they want to get home from work so they can pop in whatever show they're interested in our whatever game they like playing boos that booze it up a little bit and go back into rinse and repeat and they want someone who does tell them what to think i don't know i a little more optimistic than you are conan i kind of feel like if there's there's enough big news about deep fakes like if there's enough scans where people are getting taken left and right and they start to finally figure out that they can't believe what they're they can't even trust their senses anymore as far as what they're seeing on television to completely make it so everything is questionable i mean it'll be an interesting world if that happens is because you won't know what's real there are enough conspiracies out there big ones that people just refuse to even think about do you do with just so many smoking guns available to the people and they just they just aren't continued to believe the the given narrative that you know government is good and they would never do that it to their own people and i'm like yeah no no one's ever going to wake up to fake they'll just believe whatever's fed to them what do you think johnson i don't know i think that it's gonna get more and more advanced so yeah that's for sure we can disagree on that i think that it's it's it's coming you know it's ah how are people going to react to it are they going to just accept what they see or are they gonna start disbelieving what they perceive as reality i think some people will start disbelieving and some people won't i think it's there's already a huge sort of continuum of people who believe a lot of really stupid things so deep fix easily full lots and lots of people right but once they're fooled you know we're gonna have a we're gonna have video deep video of the president's saying we are now here to reveal that the earth is in fact flat actually that's not going to happen it's going to be something like the i like the first mars base or something i do in the next five years and it's it'd be base on mars in association with the lizard people who'd base a huge huge now it's you you just who knows yeah i don't know it's going to be interesting to watch if you wanna join us you can't coming up conan you've got a story that i originally wanted to start the show it but i was literally in the midst of dealing technology yeah google misses the good news is good news that as long as they don't fold right a- google goal which years ago must be half a decade at least purchased the company that was behind the app known as ways w as e i use ways attorney onto it a long time and the big ways i do as well and you know the more people that use ways the better because it's basically a crowd sourced sourced sort of accident reporting police reporting hazard reporting app meaning that it's otherwise just a mapping you know a navigation app we get to where you wanna go it tells you the turns but it's also got notices of hey heads up copy had four point five miles and then when you get to that point it gives you the opportunity to either confirm that the cop is still where it was reported to be or deny and say now it's gone and these are all user input so correct that crowd sourcing crafts what they call that so when you have thousands of people or probably millions i i would imagine globally contributing to this you got a pretty useful piece of of information more often than not when ways says there's a cop ahead there's a cop ahead and this is and this is good for everybody except except the police except the police right and in fact there who supposedly they're out there for our protection but yeah right when they start complaining about these types of features it's like well what are you you what are you doing what are you reading i'm concerned about it because you know google has sucked up these features into you google maps and how to kill ways for the good news is that they're adding the police fiji to know that it actually is good well no one who who uses ways except us there's i could get up with i can get on there right now and i see people driving around yeah there's no one so let's we'd live in the middle of nowhere going into a bear for any but everyone uses google maps and whether you like or hate google which you should all hate google but i mean because you know i don't hate google i have a sky net but no everyone uses google if everyone has this feature available level to be he's going to know what's going to be inputting that speed trap that they see and it'll get little makes their google maps johnson s the same as ways and then they end the brand of ways effectively it doesn't matter they transitioned facts that i can foresee google adding those features and then removing them what what was the point of that be because they're so big that they're like well we can't do this responsible we've had reports that users have been using this is to target police so we have to say that the drug runners use it or some yeah exactly who knows who knows what reason google the now got company that has removed its don't be evil logo and has started being evil will do like i don't know you know like they they were they've been i'm getting these complaints from the police ever since they bought ways the police have been targeting them and with these excuses of they're using it to target us even though it's never happened nobody's ever were used ways to go and like shoot a cop or something like that i mean it's ridiculous claim that they're actually somehow the police are being harmed by this what's being harmed as the police's revenue the what's being harmed as their ability to write as many tickets as possible because if more people started to participate in this the more people are using these apps the safer everybody everybody becomes the crowd sourcing in this case is actually to the benefit of all of the user so i mean certainly they could crack i it's not impossible i wouldn't say that's an impossibility it's so far they have stood up against the police's demands to end that feature in ways and if they stood up with ways which doesn't have as many users maybe we they'll continue to stand against them conan you do have a story about this this is re- relatively newer news because i hadn't heard until just recently that it started to show up like you mentioned they've been going after ways forever so this is an old idea right but this is a new art of neal's laying wheel because because google maps is getting in and the police are not happy about it all right we got time for you if you want to join us here eight fifty five four fifty free that's eight five 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pulled up numbers showing over one hundred million downloads that's just on the android playwright the ways program is that worldwide no when i say one hundred million dollars not just on the android platfo there's a there's a total somewhere that you can look at it i was just googling essentially and that's what it said had claimed is there any indication of how many users are have downloaded i'm trying to figure maps include the pre installed and everything yeah so yeah unless a person is using something else they're probably using google maps by default right and when they used to be included with every the iphone and when i'm on my desktop that's that's all i use google maps for everything yeah what was the other one that we use way back in the day mapquest remember mapquest when you you could print out directions because you didn't have something to the us when you're on the road although i am curious to see what ways has as as far as it's it's android downloads here so according to this over a hundred million on android according to the google play store for ways yeah also hundreds and is that per user is at multiple devices i mean i don't know i don't know how they calculate that hundred million as a lot right if i if i download it cancel and then dollar you know de uninstall installed at three times this year yeah so okay so i found some statistics here from an article that says over three fourths seventy seven percent of smartphone owners ars regularly used navigation apps make sense google maps sixty seven percent is the most popular navigation app by a wide margin is the preferred navigation asian app for nearly six times more people compared to the second most popular app weighs twelve percent one quarter twenty five percent of smartphone owners say they use their preferred navigation allegation at because they believe it offers but directions over one third thirty six percent of smartphone owners use navigation prior to leaving their location thirty four percent use them on route and thirty percent use them prior to leaving and on row equally an overwhelming number of response eighty seven percent use navigation apps for driving directions the the most and how many people use them because they just wanna know or the damn speed traps are well apparently not that many of that many people in twenty eighteen when this article was written where using google maps overwhelmingly over ways because that feature was not how many people i can i can go out in the street right now and ask people what ways is and then we'll have no they won't know okay yeah six times as many so you are absolutely correct google maps is dominated dominated right so this article is coming from good day sacramento dot CBS local dot com the police demand google maps remove new speed trap feature police across the country are expressing concern about a new feature feature coming to google maps that allows users around the world the world and figure out how big ways is because this worldwide to track real time time location of officers and a new effort to compete with the traffic at ways which is also owned by google google maps is adding new features shire's to its update including the ability to see where officers are catching speeders is android users have been able to report crashes speed traps and traffic slowdowns right on the absence twenty eighteen however those features had been available to users until last week according to a google blog post i but police organizations have called the google called google to hold off on releasing saying tip drunk drivers off to DWI martin speeding i just had a mild news fantasy notice or like a dream here like a news fantasy news fantasy i was just thinking i would love to if the next couple of sentences sentence in the article were google responds by changing the icons in their maps app for police to pirates symbols or the quote a revealing the location of checkpoints puts those drivers their passengers and the general public at risk the new york the the yeah the new york police department wrote in a letter google in february to remind the new york police department that at least every time i've ever seen them DUI checkpoints to be announced in at advance at least in new hampshire i dunno if it's true in new york maybe they don't have to announce them there but there's always a newspaper article they have to send public notice out of some on a number of weeks or days in advance to give people a heads up about DUI checkpoints so it's already with the national shares associations went even further saying the feature get your puts officers at risk by letting criminals or even terrorists know where they are on the map NSA is quote NSA is supportive of the google as app but is in pathetically a national sheriff's association i'm sorry but is in pathetically opposed to the police locator feature within this app the NSA said in a statement there is no moral ethical or legal reason to have the police locator button on this app oh it's all all moral and ethical all moral ethical and legal to in order to protect you from these immoral parisians protect your pocketbook pick your wallet google definitive speed trap mornings in a statement to the he c. mag safety is a top priority developing navigation features at google a company spokesman said in february we believe that informing drivers about upcoming speed traps allows them to be more careful and make safer decisions when they're we're on the road it sounds like in february they were hold onto their guns but this is almost a year later and this is there that was ways he's so now we're talking about the new upcoming google map features so has this been released yet or is i try to i try to figure it out on today and i couldn't find it so i don't know hasn't been rolled out you don't think so sometimes what they do is they roll it out in sort of stages where certain users we'll get it and then another set of users will get it and you know i don't know how they determine it but it's not all freely not all done at once that way they can find out if things go wrong with a small set of people right rather than just doing it all at once and you think they would start in big urban areas i or i would start in someone like keen where it is only you know twenty thousand of us starting and and one auber driver now there's too i haven't seen him as a couple a while i've seen i've seen on the uber map a couple of drivers at one time i think i think this this is great that that google is standing firm so far on this particular issue everybody knows the cops are lying about this this is total bs and i think it's just like this this is like a marijuana prohibition you know they're always coming out to to the legislation beatings to tell about how marijuana this the destroys live i grow breasts it'll grow hair on your palm unbelievable yeah something johnson said about me being cynical about this oh okay about google buying up ways it did and now they're having to compete with their still top dog but they're having to compete with you know this other app that does provide the service heroes hero here would be the bad news where they would roll out this feature get all the ways subscribers and then in a year or so drop it after waist john completely yeah the cynical that's the generation x. second down and say okay ways irs well we've had fun but now google maps will be taken over and ways will no longer be a functioning in order to be responsible we can't we we have to kowtow to the cops dow in and shut down this feature sure because they see they're in harm's way all it would take just might happen years from now all it would take to be some drug runner gets through the guests to a police line or something so i shot terraced nationalists have been using this app that'll that'll work no that's all they have to say fifty five four fifty free eight five five four five five zero three seven 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very soon because police are telling google hold on don't let this out we're going to get hurt i looked in the app i wasn't able the financing features like that yeah conan checked as well so it has if it's rolled out it's rolled out to a very small amount of people but they are supposedly bringing it and that's why the police are begging taking them to put a stop to it and that's what you were sharing with us here tonight plus conan we also talked about scam artists on the internet if you've been scammed you wanna talk about it i know it's embarrassing basing but you talking about your being scammed can help other people try to figure out how to how to deal with the situation like that i said i've been taken online before it was actually happened to me earlier this year and had i not not you know if i'd done some due diligence and i didn't because i thought this was the person that and i was dealing i thought it was the person i was dealing with i would not have been taken and i was you know we are this is was just thinking the other day of how many times i've actually she called the cops yeah okay twice i've called the cops twice in my life and both times i was not happy with the results but one of them actually had to do with fraud except we're talking old technology fraud here we're talking about you know having your identity stolen or whatnot or have any credit cards stolen your you know your digits in this case i i move from one location and my bank automatically set me some checks to my old address on which is why the the hell would you do that unless you know let's i ordered them unless unless i didn't realize i had checked the box saying i wouldn't these auto sent every year old andrew anyways the new residents decided sided to go on a check cashing spree by sciences and stuff at a at a at the local grocery store well he was i realized this is happening about it you know couple flakes weeks later companies are taking checks and this and i reported it i talked to some clown on the phone and all and they got all they knew they knew who it was they had him on camera and then and then they told me what i had to do in order to take it to the next level and what was that it was i had to go sign much paperwork in an affidavit david and i had to give him permission to look into looking at my bank account and whatnot and it just like you know what they told me how far had to drive to get to the screw grew them like no man how much money wasn't for i mean all all total couple of pieces i think it was like fifty bucks or something i check and i think they get it reversed did you oh and that's see that's the thing so we're talking about talking about how to fix this you know what we do to fix this after it's already happened it's usually just the these credit card companies these these these banks they've dealt with us so many times it happens all the time they get it reversed to get your money back and the guy the culprit never actually it gets caught because it's just it's just usually easier just to get it reversed and hope and hope and hope it never happens again right well in that case the pizza parlors out the money they're the ones that got screwed i think in that case they probably i don't know who i don't know who pies out the door and it didn't get paid for pull back check it out i guess it depends on whether they had cashed the check it maybe they'd had gotten the money and the bank took the took the cut well no wouldn't work that way yeah it doesn't work that way now the banks going to take if if you reverse a check like that the banks going to just pull the funds right back out of the pizza parlors account really yeah all it was a fee because when there's a bounce checker for like a card for reversal charged back yeah massive charge so oh capitalism no one likes those guys make the money the pizza parlor yes screw them as long as the little guy making the money the banks are the ones that just i rake it in a totally immoral let's go to the phones here we got richie on the lines richie rich on our discord server go ahead oh my goodness i was hoping screaming off air armament same by and this is why should screen calls i thought he was going to call in with a good scam story because he's to do a local bitcoins sales i mean the longer you do that kind of stuff that you're going to run into scam artists right speaker pizzas seen a lot of them i want to be the back back in the day when they bought all the about those pizzas with the bitcoin oh you talking about the ten thousand bitcoin pizzas decline glenn pizza day good stuff well now it's it's good that you brought up bitcoin because i it's worth talking about it talking about reversal scams and scams involving coming bank accounts and things like that you know the banking system allows for that going in and just pulling funds right out of your account whereas with bitcoin and other crypto currencies most of them do not allow for that there are some by by default your typical bitcoin base crypto currencies once you send transaction action it's done there's no authority you can go and talk to right to say hey i got scammed i want the money back no if you get scammed it's gone on and that's one of the reasons why you got these people targeting folks for bitcoin because if you send if somebody pretends to be conan or pretends to be me or whatever and hits you up for money san has need point three or point to bitcoin i i'll i'll get back to you now the bank's not gonna honor that bank done isn't even involved in that case case if that person sends if you send a scam artist bitcoin it's gone you may be able to watch the bitcoin and their account and when they spend the bitcoin corner when they send it but you don't get to get it back it's never going to happen unless you can somehow find the person who was in somehow squeeze the money out of him which is very unlikely because these people are in a lot of cases i mentioned earlier drug addicts or whatever they're not gonna have it bitcoin gone so we were talking earlier about what you know call it a day what are you going to do a yes you're gonna go after the culprit what if you chose not to because i got taken care of well the money came back yeah but what if it hadn't you'd be out fifty bucks we'll know by probably hollywood gone after the guy i'll probably probably would've taken to court over fifty bucks sure okay time and effort on that than the i'd go to court on stupid uh uh speeding speeding tickets and parking violations so i'll take i'm i am of that ilk that i will take it to court but i'm wondering if you actually wanted to fix the system system and pay and fix these these criminals if banks and whatnot were to not honor and just just send you your money back and just take take it from the pizza guy if you were to actually feel the hurt if more people were to step up to the plate and actually get this get this issue issue solved thinking that might be the solution i'm thinking but no people want the easy waking system is not going to change in the way that you're talking about yeah they they they they want to keep their customers happy i mean we'll think about how old technology checks are i don't know when the first came out but it must have been o. more more than one hundred years ago right i mean that's that's old i o it's an IOU credit cards came out in the fifties and well it's an IOU and it's a it's a set of instructions as for the bank to retrieve the money that you are a ride from the other person's account there's routing number on there there's an account number this is this has been going on before roman times this this is this old technology old old and you know it's not hard for fake checks to be you you talked about how you actually had real checks sent to your house an old allows you were living at in the united states checks are said to have i been used in sixteen eighty one mike cash-strapped businessmen in boston mortgaged their land to a fund against which they could write checks the first printed checks are traced to seventeen sixty two and british banker lawrence childs the word check may also have originated in england in the seventeen hundreds when serial numbers were first placed on these pieces of paper as a way to keep trace of of or to check on them computing technology has certainly improved the you know the speed of checks but they're still not fast it's still going to take several days or a few days at least in a lot of cases sometimes if you're banks really good you might get an overnight clear of check but it's it's pretty you know you never really know when you you sign up for a bank account how fast they're going to be in some cases it could take you know a few business days so nowadays you've got bank apps that allow you to take pictures of checks and sort of remote deposit them so there's definitely been some advancements in in checks but the same old problems still exist with with people being able to conduct fraud i remember once i had somebody just completely manufacturer check and write it on an account that i was working with a for bitcoin sales it had nothing to do with anything that was a real check but it had the routing number knbr in the on the account number down the bottom of it and so money left the account we had to call the bank and have them pull the money back and that's a process and you've got to be on the phone you go spend a bunch of the time and it's a huge hassle in the whole banking systems messed up more coming up here it's free talk live and our coco is the world's foremost conference for voluntary's thinkers and activists activists held and beautiful acapulco mexico share ideas and how to live free and escape the clutches of the state their unparalleled lineup of speakers will discuss entrepreneurship ship investments politics philosophy health sustainability lifestyles and personal relationships stay in a world class 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don l. r. n. dot FM and find out the found out the reason why richie was in there is he was also getting hit up by the scam artists i'm just going to bring him on here since you still there richie we actually opened up the show tonight talking about this the scam artist who's been posing recently as me also posed as derek j. freeman i mean who knows who else he's he's posing as is probably this is probably what he does for his full-time job because he's hit up i would say probably fifteen to twenty people now at at this point was getting close to a dozen when i started the show but i've seen even more notices of that so what what did this guy you know try to get you to do float load him about half a bitcoin yeah what was he saying like oh i left my my hardware wallet at the office and i'm not going to be back there until tomorrow that's what he was saying a few weeks sagoes people on i think it was on discord okay he said he had a client drive in from providence he went online want twenty percent wanted to buy some for me but he's coming in as like as you like he's got a profile of their right and i don't have i don't have your phone number directly so i only i'm only i l. contact you telegram and whatnot right in the in the group chats so i wasn't going to send him anything without voice their vacation and it wasn't gonna do that yeah well we're just talking about like now with deep fakes voice verification isn't even a thing anymore i mean like like you said if you called haldeman telegram he might have had some kind of deep fake where he could've faked me out since you're calling the discord server that makes sense because odds are he didn't take control of the discord server you probably yeah i know i can hear the show on air and i know you guys are on air and i just wanted to i wanted to hear your voice before i did any sort of transaction like that especially that's all you and i knew i could i knew i could catch you during the show and but i didn't i didn't need to be on the air to just hear your voice and verified that this was okay sure yeah this dude's been hitting up a bunch of people and we suspect that he's getting into telegram groups that are somewhat public like the fork fest group which has a hundred and fifty people in it i mean it's a busy group there's a lot of people in there yeah we don't know who they all are it's someone actually mentioned that he called him he actually called him and was speaking to them or is is l. text i don't think anyone's spoken to this person okay when i message them i said i need a voice verification yeah i wasn't going to do that and i went well it'd be gum to do it like you said because the deep aches pains that he just sent so i i i know you're doing the show i know the caller lines work and and why i'm on usually screen the also i wanted to do that without actually making an i figure co host we definitely don't need to screen co host so anyway glad you appreciate the glad you're we're willing to talk about it anyway because i was talking about earlier how i've been taken by by one of these guys now it wasn't over telegram where they got me it was actually on local bitcoins coins and i'd i broke all the rules the guy you know manage to convince me managed to convince me to completely break all my normal profile protocols being cautious and in careful and i got screwed over because i i am way too cautious for that you know do my due diligence before oh and he and he does the thing where it's an urgent matter right has always urgent yeah so i'm like well it can urgent for you it's not that urgent for me exactly my the time before you before you meet me the last time i do have a like a local bitcoin dodgy story on it yeah let's hear it so i will you know it was it was going to be a fairly large transaction five figures at the time and the person at the time i was selling i was doing it out of my parent's house i get home from work i'd set up my money counter i get a grabs you bring people in physically you were meeting this was back when local bitcoins was actually connecting people locally i only did cash i did not do any bank transfer pow transfers it was like coming to you can you give me your address or your parents address right and i wasn't too worried about that number one and if they wanted to meet someplace else i was accommodate in the mall all parking lot and number of times as well but this person like didn't wanna come to me at the at my house i went okay that's fine you know there's a diner down on the road we can go meet at the diner parking lot whatever they they drove out from wherever they were allegedly and then decided the diner parking lot wasn't safe enough so they said well i'm like well where do you wanna meet then how about the police station chance not even close am i gonna do you cast bitcoin transaction in the police rain parking lot so they were i had like real high feedback on local bitcoin because i was the number one seller for a couple of months in hawaii nice it's an arbitrage opportunity there and they have nothing so i'm like nope sorry you know you've you've already raise there's too many red flags your blocked i'm outta here and cook who does that in a police station man come on yeah that's crazy wow good story hey thanks for sharing that tonight richie anything that's it thanks brother appreciate richie rich she's the host of the anarchists experience at anarchist experienced dot com by the way most stations do have the front room the front part of their facilities set up for those types of transactions talking about i saw him craigslist all the time some people that's how they they do it they want to go to the police station there right there in the front are i do believe are police station the lobbyists setup for craigslist transactions really but most of the time i just do the walmart parking lot or something you don't think that would cause some is to you know eyebrows to raise their hands on it depends on what you're selling if you're selling bitcoin or somebody somebody's hands in the police if it's something small i mean yeah bill actually take advantage of it yeah actually i don't use it i've ever done it i've never see i've never been there and zini when using it i thought you said some customers want that i know that they are yes i know that there emerge of merchants and buyers and craigslist who do it i've never done it or had to deal with anyone one who's not afraid to come to my house and here and nice keene new hampshire yeah i guess if you live out in the sticks it might be a little different i don't i live you you know somewhat in the city coming up here tonight we got a couple of her new stories that we definitely should get into according to the washington examiner poll shows a disturbingly high number of young people are willing to vote for a socialist and johnson you've got i think we should get into this free speech speech thing because you say you've got a story about a guy and author of some sort who has been railing against freedom of speech for quite a long time yes and and i i'm curious to know what his arguments are because the headline is speech has never been free and that's good yeah this is this guy he's written a book i'm not gonna say the title i'll say his name is stanley fish okay and he's been writing about this for quite some time about the nuances of free speech in why speech needs to be controlled in various different front ways and that i guess he he has this kind of believed that somehow putting limits on speech you know kind of i guess his arguments are that you are reducing the noise to signal ratio so that if you censor certain certain speech other speeches allowed to come forward so you're actually helping you're helping right it's very sort of nineteen eighty-four newspeak kind of hard yeah good point who gets to decide what is censored and what he does well mr fish mr fishes he's he's he's very wants 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is free there are costs to those who produce it and it costs to those who are subjected to it of course the term free speech dozen hat or does have a clear meaning under the constitution if you wanna say something you don't have to ask ask the government's permission and you won't be punished by the government for saying it supposedly but even if this freedom from the state interference with your speech good luck singing winging about killing cops because there's been some people who've been arrested for definitely goes on to lay out some of that stuff he says but even if this freedom from state interference with your speech has its limits and it does not protect you in private life where speaking out carries with it the risk of censorship and penalty supreme court first amendment decisions have told us that flag burning is speech and that saying to a policeman your a fascist isn't if speech can be categorized what what i can't call a cop fashion i'm pretty sure you can apparently there's been a ton of cases where you you can flip the bird say f. you i'm pretty sure you can call him a fascist be curious to know what he's sighting in that in that yeah i'm kerry korea i was kinda curious myself as i skimmed this or nets death settled that settled case law at this point i mean that's not to say the cops can't keep arresting they do cops will keep arresting people for doing that stuff and they'll oh keep losing hopefully because that's what's been happening but apparently there maybe some cases where saying you're a fascist is not okay i mean i don't there might be some different things flipping off a cop or saying you're a pig or something like that might be different from saying you're a fascist i don't think so i don't know what if it hurts just feelings suspect he didn't put a citation next to that there are a lot of citations at the bottom this i'll have to double but later it says here speech can be categorized as a symbolic action because it has an effect the state finds distressing and action can be categorized as speech because it sends a message the taunts to protect isn't the distinction infinitely manipulable how do you draw the line and who should be authorized to dry it suppose we could would answer those questions sorry suppose we can answer those questions and come up with a generally accepted definition of what speech is and what it isn't with that definition in place is a citizen free to engage in speech without fear of repercussions not really for there are time manner and place restrictions sion's that limit your free speech rights by telling you for example that you can't deliver your message from a truck with a loudspeaker while driving through a residential neighborhood at two in the morning neither if you are a nurse can you lobby for higher wages and better working conditions in the middle of an operation how many well now hold on i think he's already already getting he's already getting lost in confusing and he he started out by being clear that the government you know has not as many restrictions supposedly lead than private people he did mention that and then he goes right into an example of oh well the nurses working so therefore she well that's a private property issue you know you don't get it to have protest while you're on the job and then he brings up the the restrictions on amplified speech okay that's something worth talking about should you be able to do it is whether or not you have the ability to amplify your speech part of your free speech and i think there is a strong argument that no it's not because you're then using other means is to project that are not your own the way i've always looked at that it is a form of pollution yeah former noise pollution where you're actually interfering with with other people's lives correct you're you're you're you're doing them with waves correct i don't know if it necessarily what you guys are saying his interferes but what is argument is so the argument he goes on here to say is how many of these restrictions are there and is there a point when they're cute cumulative wait is so great that free speech rights at least in some circumstances have been reduced to almost nothing let's assume room as a hypothesis not a fact that those questions to have been answered and that we have identified the scope of free speech rights and a rough sense of the situations relations in which they can be invoked are we home free not quite because inevitably someone will cite competing interests the moral fabric of society the or the mental health of individuals and argue that they should outweigh the first amendment in some contexts in response strong first amendment proponent will reaffirm the abstract principle and say that it should trump every time yes i will yes i agree but how do we think about these those occasions zhen's went allowing free speech to flow freely no matter what its effects causes harm to others is that harm just collateral damage the necessary cost of doing first amendment business is the first amendment yet basic value that it must be upheld even when it appears to facilitate evil yes yes yes it should does that is that is the free speech that is most important well they're dealing with this right now on the college campus here in yeah have you heard about this college campus so oh yeah and so somebody apparently and i've heard this directly from vincent who's one of our occasional co-host who's who's currently going to the school keene state college where they've come up with a free speech policy and they're now hearing from people in the school and elsewhere about what they think about this proposed policy which is going to have have something to do with hurting people's feelings or whatever i don't have a copy of it in front of me right now but this is one of the things that they're currently dealing with and it was brought up by some people who got insulted by another person on campus and they got their feelings hurt and that's i'm sorry to hear that you know that these thin skinned individuals are unable enable to handle criticism or unable to handle you know a a mean person saying things they don't like but you know to trot out the old saying row freedom of speech h the reason why you have freedom of speech is you popular speech doesn't need to be protected it's the unpopular speech that needs to be protected and that includes all of it so so even if you don't like because there's some speech i don't much care to hear i don't like racism for instance but i'll still let those people call into this show because i think the best way to rebut speech i don't like is with more speech now with actually shutting down that person's ability to say how you ever gonna hone your argument against something that you don't you don't care about if you ever hear it and you never have the opportunity to rebut if he just if you just hit the sensor button every time you don't like something yep you're never going to learn how to actually actually having an actual argument and actual conversation with that person tell them why you disagree with them and he also touched on another important question earlier which is who's going to decide and that's a question you asked earlier conan i'm surprised you even brought that up well obviously in the case of keene state here if you can just find enough thin skinned individuals up the plurality who who vote one way or the other they get to decide or this guy this guy who's who's coming up with a silly argument well he continues this by saying the first amendment is a participant in the partisan battle a prize in the political wars and not an apolitical oasis of principle those who believe it is an those who believe it sorry those who believe it is echo a remark incorrectly attributed to voltaire i disapprove of what you say but i will defend to the death in other words however loved some reprehensible and ideal were proposition may be the democratic principle of freedom of speech requires us to err it and forbids us to repress it sounds good but think about it the arguments that more that more despicable the speech the more merit protection makes sense only if we can be confident when important views are given place in the conversation they will be exposed for what they are and rejected in favor of better view so who actually said i'll defend to to the death your right to say it if it wasn't it wasn't voltaire had looked at it was a good one eight fifty five four hundred fifty free eight five five four five zero three seven three thirty three i want to have you repeat that when we come back here johnson that idea and the will continue and we'll look closer at this it's free talk live message and data rates may apply health seriously i am too young for hair loss my hairline keeps creeping back receding i've got this bald spot it's thinning everywhere you're going to have to give up to shave it dude put down the razor 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to be under attack because some people don't want their feelings hurt and i know it's no fun to have somebody say mean things about you or saying ugly things about things that you like or whatever it is that is offensive but it's a principle for a reason and the idea is that we benefit from having freedom of speech to have all of the ideas including the really ugly ones being presented it as a benefit to society overall that it's a good thing to not leave these things out to not preclude them from being discussed as i said before i would rather answer ugly speech with more speech i want to hear what the bad ideas are so they can be rejected that can be understood they can be you know a reasoned against it can be argued against and i think that's important one of the reasons why we do this radio and it's nice to know who the bigots are absolutely let them show their true collared exactly and and maybe even and maybe even we're talking about honing your own argument maybe you would have maybe you will give give me the opportunity to actually work on their argument as well change their mind maybe they've gotten it wrong because of bad influence a bad family you know the bad upbringing absolutely they've got it all backwards and if the if they can never have the argument they can only get their information from red are fortune or whatever or if they can only speak in hushed tones among their own agree well you know people that agree with them and that's as far as their speed festers noted can remember about it so we're going to get back into the story here from medium dot com but i i do want to invite you to liberty con it's coming up in april so you got some time to plan for this one the april third through fifth happening in the belly of the beast in d. c. and i know that's not a place where a lot of people wanna go but there's a good reason to go because there's going to be oh apparently more than seventy pro liberty organizations present at this event is it sounds like it's going to be a pretty big big deal i've never been to this before some looking forward to checking it out and big speakers john mackey for instance a whole foods ceo and co founder he's going to be speaking on on what he calls conscious capitalism vernon smith and nobel prize winner in economics will speak on alternative markets miriam isa who's a pop culture expert and political commentator with over three eight hundred million youtube views is going to be there as well as naseem tick nicholas talib who spent twenty one years as a risk taker before becoming a researcher and philosophical mathematical impractical problems with probabilities sounds like some really smart stuff going on at liberty con- you can go to their website liberty con dot com and get more information about other speakers in what's going on there plus you can register of course in use discount code f. t. l. to save ten bucks off your registration it's from what i understand pretty affordable event to begin 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elizabeth beatrice hall right under a pseudonym nestle arriving evelyn beatrice hall who was basically summarizing what voltaire's beliefs are so it's not it's not a cool by all tear but it's a summary of what voltaire actually really did believe that you buy labeled as voltairian principles yeah yeah so in other words so this is i disapprove of what you say but i will defend to the death you're right to say it in other words however loathsome reprehensible an idea or proposition may be the core democratic principle of freedom of speech requires us to err it and forbids bidzos to repress it sounds good but think about it the argument that the more despicable the speech the more it merits protection makes sense only if we can be confident confident that when abhorrent views are given a place in the conversation that they will be exposed for what they are and rejected in favor of but our views well here's the thing that i my comment on this so that this person doesn't seem to understand is that if you believe in a marketplace views in other what's he saying the more the argument that the more district of the speech more a merits protection make sense makes sense only if we can be confident that went porn views are given a place in the conversation they will be exposed for what they are and rejected in favour better views that the thing that he's not really taking into account is who determines it's that those views are and if there's a point there the whole reason why views become abhorrent right is because the there becomes is a marketplace of ideas right so to not believe in freedom of speech doesn't means that you don't believe in the marketplace of ideas if a view gains traction and becomes the most popular taylor view regardless of the nexus of free speech right that view it becomes the popular view is not abhorrent it is the popular popular so right so who decides again what is considered us only we might look at the the idea that people believe in the state as horrid i mean the the belief in the state eight leads to realize that he's just arguing for thought control that's based on what he believes as a parent yeah well maybe he does realize that maybe eighty maybe he does that would make him very machiavelli while he is talking about restricting freedom of speech here and that's the ultimate push behind this piece so just before we're going to to further address he his concern here's well what if somebody says something that's abhorrent and no one responds to it what if somebody says something that's abhorrent and no one's there to you talk about how important it is that's what he's suggesting now obviously on this show we're going to respond to things that we think are outrageous we're hearing that this guy's views which are important yes exactly but there are certainly could be cases where you know a street preacher is let's say chris cantwell's going out into the street and the street preacher now now i don't think he believes in god but anyway let's say he goes out and he's he's a white nationalist he's got him horrid racist viewpoints and he's handing out pamphlets it's on the street corner and there's nobody there to call them out there's nobody there to rebut every single thing that's the situation this guy talking about is we can't have an of horrid view just being able to go out there on rebutted and i would say well okay go out and handsome pamphlets next to chris can't well i mean look it's not my my responsibility to pick the time in the place of where somebody can say things that are important should be able to do it anytime anywhere because freedom of speech is important if you you don't think it's important well then there's plenty of places in the world where it's restricted and you can see what those places are like are they great great places to live you know like the middle east for for instance so he goes you brought up the the real kicker here in that is if enough people agree with it then then it isn't abhorrent right normal but there have been plenty of times in our history where plenty of people believed that we needed to sacrifice sacrificed fifty thousand criminal criminals but captive slaves a year in order for the sun to come up next tomorrow and if you and at that time that belief was not abhorrent it's right so so he might be onto something where yeah who you know what who knows the only reason i you believe he's onto something is because you believe that belief was important important yeah but who decide which is which was which is the big question this evening right exactly yeah but but i'm gonna say no he's not an angel and neither we so so the best option is the marketplace of thinking free thinking of free speech and just and and let it and let it work its way out working work is work its way through the system but they expect some stalin who knows everything and now we know that he didn't yet yeah i mean to get in there and start deciding how we need to how we live and what we can try and where we can say free speech is the driving force or one of the driving sport forces that brought us from that time to the time that we have now correct freer this mitch the faster the movement towards better idea the better free speech that moves moves us towards bad ideas it's free speech that moves toward it is the most efficient way to keep up horrid views in check yeah which is why it's the first amendment ah think about one of the reasons why it was created in the first place right because you had a king previously these folks that came here they were trying to buy god right and you couldn't criticize the king thing but there are still countries in the world isn't thailand one of them where if you criticize the king of thailand you're put to death oh it's bad so i mean this is still exists today in the world where you cannot say bad things about the ruling class about the grand ruler the king daddy or whatever if you say bad things you die and i i bet 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affected podcast listeners or if it's only affecting people who like go to the website and click and download so maybe somebody in our chat room on the discord server is actually a podcast subscriber and they can answer that question all right so we were talking about freedom of speech coming coming up though we're gonna change gears and get into conan's game of the week plus you've got a mandela effect of the week so we'll get that i could i could have a mellow effect of the week for the next two years so we can do that but there's more here from this character who johnson you found and how'd you find this by the way where did you come across just looking for prep ah stumbled upon the social media no i just do lots of searches overed various news platforms i'm on a lot of them as medium which is a website that allows sort of editorial to'real content opinion pieces from people and i tend to like opinion pieces and i tend to like controve opinions yeah i like bad opinions so that we can address them you know because this is a good one easy easy do you also like watching bad movies occasionally or bad games or hanging out with it depends on whether or not it's really bad or whether or not that's like funny because it's bad i like watching the pieces really bad if there were a funny opinion i don't know well this guy wants to restrict freedom of speech each and he's writing this at the right time there's a large push from people who who agree with him who don't want to hear the ugly stuff out there anymore and they wanna use some sort of form form of government restriction to change that so let's go on with the story well he goes on to say far from being a concept that stands to the side of the fray free speech is right in the middle of the fray where it is wheeled as wielded as a sword by all parties controversy you say you're for free speech but the truth is that we are so take lake that the party that succeeds in claiming the free speech label side is more than halfway to victory it chills free speech speech is almost always a winner but free speech is not what wins because free speech is not an independent value now if we're if we're talking about the two parties the two tribes i'm going to say that maybe one of them the colt colt side of the tribes not talking about the left i think one once upon a time they were all about free speech h but not anymore i mean this guy is really really gun for the argument that free speech is not an independent value he's like saying that that's like a foregone conclusion and it's like no you're you're wrong okay if he's saying it's not an independent value is he saying it's dependent on something and if so what and i'm not sure even understand what that looks sort of like the last he was making this argument in the last few paragraphs that we covered that that because it's not because you you know doesn't make logical sense because the more despicable the speech the more it merits protection and that only makes sense if you can be sure that aren't aren't views will be exposed which we roundly rejected and exposed terrible idea at his own idea on the subject is important in and of itself because that is the marketplace of ideas is how you figure out what is important or not you can't just for yourself judge it for yourself yourself and like oh that's important because i said so well no you're you don't get to decide that for everyone else you guys off but you get to decide it for yourself but the this guy believes that you know there should be you know his people decide you know what what is important is what is not right a- and we know that he's an author he's but he's also an academic he's a professor of humanity of humanity's and law at florida international university probably also thinks that free speech should be democratically decided as he does is and that's what i was that's what i was gordy should decide the tyranny of the majority should decide what is a horned and and therefore squash the minorities speech scary idea yeah and that's what i was saying about keene state it's going to be the plurality is going to be a bunch of students who who get in front of whatever board members they need to and they're like this needs to happen and look at it there's fifty of us we need to make this happen because feelings yeah so he goes on to say a many US citizens reflexively affirm the value of reese expression and don't require that it be justified by reference to some other value strong free speech advocates don't ask what is the first amendment four merely to pose that question would be to imply that the rationale for the amendment is to be located gated in a goal prior to it freedom of speech on the strong view is a free standing value yet any celebration of that value typically includes is a list of the benefits free speech provides it facilitates the search for truth or provides the free flow of information necessary to an informed citizenry or it opens a space for dissent and thereby provides and a counterweight to the pronouncements of entrenched authority that's all true i'm glad he at the very least can express the other side so at least he understands or at least proclaims to understand some of the reasons and the rationale for for here's where he closes the track is closer to the trap and i'm ready if if these are the goals of the first amendment that it helps us to realize there must be some forms of of speech that impede rather than aid their realization speech the blocks are undermines the search for truth speech the corrupts rather foreign citizens speech that shuts down the democratic conference the roger open it follows that regulating such speech rather within violating the first amendment is an active fidelity to it i mean what worries the slave that's totally the doublespeak part right there that that definitely deserves to be repeated here in just a moment we're going to continue the discussion but boy so we need to restrict freedom of speech because there's some things that could restrict freedom of subsidy it restricts freedom of speech i think that let's think about the whole the whole russian argument so they okay got on facebook allegedly and bought some some ads and whatnot so free speech platform and they said what they wanted to and a won the election for the great orange emperor that's conspiracy that is the theory and so we got to we've got the control that that that type of free speech we can't have them in but that's not that's a private platform well maybe maybe he wants to know even what we're maybe he wants to control the ah facebook as well we're going to of course he does but because right because these laws if they come out with them are going to apply to anything inside threat states there's more coming up i want what to dig back into that here johnson as well and your calls and thoughts are welcome on free talk live have you heard of liberty con liberty con is not only a 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want to try to restate it without hearing it again yeah so he says any any celebration of the value of free speech typically includes a list of the benefits free speech provides it facilitates the search for truth or it provides the free flow of information necessary to an informed citizenry or it opens a space for descended thereby by provides a counterweight to the pronouncements of entrenched authority but if these are the goals of the first amendment that it helps us to realize there must spe- some forms of speech that impede rather than aid that realization speech that blocks are undermines the search for truth speech corrupts rather than informs the minds of citizens speech that shuts down the democratic conversation rather than keeping it open it follows that regulating such speech rather than violating the first amendment mint is an act of fidelity to it wow that's crazy i don't understand because regulating that that type of speech is is is a violation first of all the things that he was talking about that would be shutting down freedom of speech all i could think about was you're under arrest right like there's certain words coming from the mouths of government agents that have gotten in the way and have stopped people from engaging in freedom of speech and it's most of the time you know with the exception of the occasional thug that will try to stop you from speaking we've certainly seen that here in in keene where some people have have physically attacked the robin hoods for instance many years ago but i mean usually it's coming coming from the government usually the freedom of speech restrictions that we need to be concerned with are coming from the halls of power themselves wow this argument gets sicker okay great if you have any the answer at all to the question what is the first amendment four you are logically committed to censorship somewhere down the line because is your understanding of the amendments purpose will lead you to regulate or suppress speech that serves to undermine that purpose we see once again that censorship it's a ship is not a violation of the first amendment but the necessary vehicle of its implementation the choices never speech or censorship but between different paths of such i don't i don't understand this guy says censorship is a violation of the first amendment period is no there's no there is no gray area area here it's black or white it's either right or remember censorship is when the government restricts freedom of speech private censorship isn't quite the same thing and this guy i certainly would want to control private seems to have sort of missed that whole planet and is it just i thought censorship was from the authority well yeah you can look at facebook can censor even though it's not government but it is the authority because it's the only one that has property again he just goes onto presume it says i'm gonna make it a point presuming that you already accepted my last argument he's making an argument building he's like building a house of recruiting he wants to recruit people this is definitely a house of cards argument for sure so he says free speech is a grab sorry free speech doctrine is a grab grab bag of analogies invented for the occasion arguments rhetorical slogans shaky distinctions and ad hoc exceptions to those distinctions distinctions all combining to make an artifact of the very politics it's supposedly transcends that's a mouthful but what it means is that the first amendment yes it was there's a participant in the partisan battle a prize in the political wars and not a political awareness of principle that's my first thesis my second can thesis is that there is nothing wrong with that and i will and i'll agree with that when the when you hear these arguments unless it's coming from us but mostly these arguments he's free speech each arguments are whoever's in control whatever tribe is in control and it's speech that they that is important to their battle so the left has a a whole nother argument with comes a free speech compared to what the right thinks is important to protect more problem right because he goes back to the question of who will enforce if the left is in charge when these things come into play it's gotta be free spaces in the college the crackdown on certain types of things they don't like but then when the right gets in control old and they're gonna talk about cops and before you know it you won't know what to say because you won't know if what you say is going to offend somebody if what you say is going to be politically popular pillar at any given back to the beginning of the his argument here is that the that there are certain restrictions that are you know and even we deem okay for example you know going through true and saying you know shouting megaphone at two AM residential neighborhood and if those if that's a limitation on free speech again he's saying those limitations free speech applies to public property and that's one of the things that you said he's he's wishy washy on he's missing and that's common amongst people who don't really have a true understanding of what that means you don't have freedom of speech here on free talk live because we're on private property and we have to protect the property property of the radio transmitters the owners of those transmitters they can be come after by the government and so we we have to put in certain restrictions but you know we are as free as speech platform as we can be minus those restrictions other places like mastodon instances for instance that don't want to have what was it gab i think gab which is sort of ultra ultra right-wing social media platform launched their own masjid on server and some of the other mastodon servers decelerated it'd from that they disconnected from that other server because they didn't want to connect to those links now that's not necessarily the same thing as government censorship it's just private that property restrictions and you could probably use a definition of censorship to describe that but ultimately it doesn't stop you from having the freedom of speech the true censorship -sorship is that which threatens you with violence that which threatens you with some sort of punishment for for being for saying things that you want to say so again again he centrally chilling he says here the first amendment is a prize a participant in the partisan battle apprise in the political war is not an apolitical waste the principal he says the first first thesis second thesis that there's nothing wrong with and he goes on to say a first amendment whose content and operations are through and through political call is fully capable of doing the work we needed to do indeed it may be more capable because freed from the stringent demand of principle the demand that freedom of speech be the rule with out except he's saying free it from principle but put it in the hands of political people and no matter what 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translate what he's saying he's saying that if only the first amendment allowed for political speech it'd be okay first amendment whose content and operations are political matter matt words that it's a political battle and the it's the first amendment who's being battled over by the right and left which it is right and that that first first amendment is fully capable of doing the work that we needed to do supposedly that's as far as it should go is that what he's saying he's just he's saying that that's fine let's let freedom of speech speech exists in the political realm but outside of it we don't want anyone's feelings to get her i guess well let's see what non-contiguous he says indeed it may be more capable because freed from the stringent stringent demand of principle the demand that freedom of speech be the rule without exception and no matter what the circumstance the amendments it can display the flexibility required to make full sense of the many situations in which debates about speech emerged yeah i i just love how he couches and i love it but it's horrifying but how he couches free the idea of freeing the principal freeing freedom of speech freyer the principle why so tied to being principal person your unchanging yourself from all of this liberty in order to chain in yourself down with the restrictions that he thinks appropriate complete nonsense that you would have principles that you would believe that speech should be free when clearly there are examples of when free speech is bad ertz at things are bad that happened with free speech so therefore you shouldn't have principals at all and most people don't yeah but they but he is right to say that a lot of people do reflexively support freedom of speech they've been brought up with that india they may not truly understand it but they do still spout it to some extent i think that's ultimately you know a good thing it's better if they understand banded obviously we we strive for that one of the reasons why we're talking about this so people can better comprehend what freedom of speech is why it exists and why it's a good thing but it's there's always pushback from people like this i mean it's just it's funny i mean it's the same argument that principals is like this so what if police kill people why are you attach to this principle pull just freeing be harmed clearly we need to protect some people but if a few innocent people get harmed and i mean why are you attached to the principal look at all the good that's happening here what so what if some there's collateral damage and thousands of children are killed in and foreign wars the military is keeping you safe well this is the kind of with your silly principal right and and this is the kind of guy who probably would support the idea of we do need to put one hundred guilty men in prison so we can see one hundred innocent men in prison so we can put one guilty man in prison because the the old principle of the you know the right to a fair trial and due process and things like this presumption of innocence is that you know if one hundred i'd rather have one hundred guilty men go free than one on innocent man put in prison this sounds like he would prefer the reverse right put everybody in prison we'll catch some guilty people well i know that his argument is always going to you end up with nazis all right 'cause that's where he's coming from he wants to protect his students and his people in his clan from from that type of thank inc has he because that's what those are the movies he saw that's the history that he understands by what he is calling for is soviet russia and he'd he's just doesn't get it that he's probably going to be one of the first getting shipped off to siberia because if he's if he's helping sculpt there were plenty of supporters communist supporters orders who after a few years to realize hey this isn't what this isn't what we wanted this isn't this isn't work i was off i was in the cattle car and i have to pledge his loyalty to the party on the blockchain that's what they're doing in china apparently this guy by the way is just i mean this is my own personal opinion here but is the boomer ES looking boomer that ever boomer d- what was his name stanley fish stanley fish fish he's a he's a happy guy he's is a very you know he's a balding moustachioed old white crusty old white man who you know he just looks like an evil villain in and you know a movie i don't think i would go that he does he actually kind of looks like anthony hopkins yeah i glance speech with fava beans psghetti oh yeah all right so we're going to get into some pop culture stuff we got video jio game of the week the game of the week from conan on the way here plus if you want to jump in you can let's talk to james he's in indianapolis you're on free talk live listening listening on tune in james in indy going once james indie going twice thanks for trying eight fifty five four fifty free and also mandela effect 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live go ahead uh-huh conan i heard you mention about the cops were otherwise what johnson rice refers to as the pigs yes yes they are disappointing you at times yes having called him and and having dealt with them i would have done better just to taking care of it myself because they didn't help well i can think of at least three occasions now that luther -tarian radio network hosts have called the pig on me for under the accusation of datura crimes occasions picks weren't thought you and did their jobs by pulling over to the side of the road pulled with over four or eight years ago yet at least three separate occasions i speak as this guy who's always threatening hosts about killing kids i'm not threatening to kill someone's child is not a threat like albert speer junior if you know your history but i'd like to say something about fat man and little boy you're sitting in the studio with right now that if they don't take back to despicable and disgusting things they've said about i mean by my full name on the public airwaves literally a hundred times happy to call cell four one one with either one of this year racist to their stride that's not a cone and that's not a threat i hope a skinny white boy piece of trash like you shows up and rich paul shows up and i hope vincent shows up chose mark should be done ten shows up where but even better james damasio drag queen that he is where our show up where oh you don't want to know where you won't be able to know where you are ian bernard after john we've have you what are you talking about wish you never met that comment to bitcoin preacher that lies mark eggington after i'm done with you uh-huh keep dot com cohn he would he talking about he sounds like he's going to kill you guys drunk right now or coke okay killed against god's commandment i would miss if you don't know where you're at whatever he's done it sounds like you're dead threatened your life coney hey speaking of killing killing conan marquette jensen's real crime victim still can't be reached for comment and the were eh you there and the by now and that wasn't us this is actually the reception just now we didn't they we know that was him he's probably on a cell phone connection or something nothing like that but i just like to say i didn't call the police on james but i don't blame somebody for doing that and i understand mark has done that somebody says i'm going when you come kill your kid yet well he's very careful about saying that he won't actually say he's going to kill marks child he'll say he's going to end his life has he knows it which could mean he is intending to kill mark which would change his son's life as he knows it in that case but he's never really to clear about it if if he gets drunk enough he will just come right out and threaten and there has been some evidence that you know mark has been collecting mark takes this all pretty seriously and and he has gone to the police i don't know of anyone else who has who has gone to the police in this case gave you know whatever so they go hey let's talk about video radio games conan throughout mandela fact kwun are oh yeah mandel effects so all right as johnson clarified it is not a universal miss remembering it as a widespread miss remembering of something that may or may not have happened the bernstein bears was the first one i heard about and i was shocked when it spell barron stairs having seen those books so many times as a kid i could not believe with spelled site as a lot of these i think a lot of these can be explained it's all about context like the whole like the journey you're like you're not old enough to really know how that stuff or luke i am your father when he really said noah your father if you're talking to your buddy at the water cooler the next day you're gonna put it into context you're gonna say luke i'm your father you're not gonna you're gonna put it in the context of these could be some of these are understandable but some of them just don't make sense and this comes from the matrix like when you're a kid you don't have the pre- wpro prejudice to say well jews that's a jewish name barron stein it's spelled e. i n. because that's the way they spell it right you just say see a. n. and you haven't formed that prejudice everything a little juice jewish people what because you wouldn't why would you you have to do if you sounded out right if you're at the age where you're spelling things by sounding it out why would be a problem for bernstein did and the author really dane yeah yeah but did you know that if you just hear it barrington bears like you're not gonna really that's not going to stand out to you i don't know because the reason why it standouts sends out to you now is because that s t n spelling is common spelling of anything that ends and steen ray sign yes s. t. 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Don't Give In to House Fever! (Hour 2)

The Dave Ramsey Show

39:45 min | 1 year ago

Don't Give In to House Fever! (Hour 2)

"A live from the headquarters of ramsey solutions broadcasting from the dollar car rental studios the dave ramsey show where debt is dumb cash is king and the paid off home mortgage has taken the place of the bmw as the status symbol of choice i'm dave ramsey your host thank you for joining us open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five that's triple eight eight to five five two two five tino starts off this hour in houston texas hi tina welcome to the dave ramsey show from terenzi how're you doing this afternoon you're better than i deserve all right thank you so much for taking my call is certainly an honor currently i'm working as a media company and i hold two positions there i resigned from one to stay at home i possibly have another offer from another company in the same industry the dilemma is is that i have a non compete ethically what would be the best thing to do and if i pursue a job with this other company in would be reaching the non compete agreement will you agreed not to compete so the only way i mean if the assuming the document is written properly like is who you're buzz right yes sir okay and on top of that you agreed from a legal standpoint you got a problem in a moral standpoint once you got a problem so are you in a direct competitor i mean you're gonna cost them you're former current group problems by being there yes it is a direct competitor competitor yesterday's okay what what what function do you do what do you do a i have a i work at a media company so i have a well technically it's a radio station so i haven't on air an office position there would you be owner do you ever plush 'em i'm not sure at the moment i could be a possibility what are they offering you know they're offering me of course a higher pay an they're offering me just a gross of the opportunity or wide eyed to do some like production work and things like that you know you're probably only air yes okay oh on or i will be doing like production work like creating it in traffic and things like that if if i only on the radio station at have more of a problem with you being on air in any way then i would you working in production what you could do for production further new station vs they all station is probably not something a whole bunch of different from people couldn't do productions production obviously it's both art and science but they are part maybe you're better at but you know obviously better people producing than others but my my point is is that that doesn't bring as much threat to them but if they've invested heavily in building your brand and people know you're voice and you move your voice over the place that i probably would enforce the non compete with other guy okay i'm trying i'm trying to put moccasins on you know put both sets moccasins on my feet and think through this with you from ethic standpoint because the white of solve everything ethics was in business is just ask yourself how would you want someone a tree you what if you on the radio station and you had talent there there's on air and behind the scenes production under what circumstances would you let them go would you give them a release i would give you a release of armor running it as long as you hear your voice on there until the non compete ran out so would that mean that i go to my current employer and ask the get out of my non compete contract generally option you out okay and what if i don't feel comfortable doing that and i then you're not gonna compete because if you go and just walk over there and take these other job you're gonna get sued and you're gonna lose if the contracts any good how long this heat for it for twelve but yeah that's go stand in most states i'm not an expert on the law but i don't know texas law for sure texas got a little bit more free reeling things and other states but in most states a one year non compete in a business like you and i are in will stand if it's properly written a book and i had a i had a review it and he said so what do you think you're options or what do i think my options are i mean i'd like to see that other avenues just because you know i'm saying in order to pursue it you have one option you senior not you have two options don't pursue it crowd take the job well you could not three options you could take the job issued an violate your integrity but there's you gave you're word that's not recommended either one of those on or you can talk to you employer in talk them into some kind of a release 'em which sometimes radio people are jerks i understand that they may not wanna do it and that's maybe why you don't wanna talk by yeah and so the a another option i guess just quit and ride out the non compete before you take the new job but if you if you they find out you're working over there you're gonna get hammered girl you know that yeah i don't wanna do that i i yeah i i don't know and there's not there's not a legal i'm i'm not an attorney but you've already talked to one i i think you know going over there and saying you know i'm leaving evening aunt i'm gonna go do something somewhere i have this other opportunity i would consider it a real honor an act of mercy if you would allow me to if you would give me a written released for proportion of the non compete i promise not to speak on their 'cause i know you'd be concerned about that but allow made a new production of the place until the non compete runs out okay and that's what i would do i would ask for permission i dunno house you're gonna get to do this i don't i mean you either don't do it you quit should unemployed for twelve months or i mean you stay in the bad job clinton should unemployed for twelve months you get sued or you ask their permission i think that's their permissions lease painful of these three three okay now what if they say no i get that name but i do i still resigned that did not just between a very awkward position now i mean do you have a job you have something you could do other than in the business quote unquote yeah i have i i'm also in probably getting another part time job here in the next couple of weeks ago i sat on the sidelines for twelve months is gonna kill you know but i just don't wanna be enacted in this business 'cause i know how much it hurts when you're not active you know what i mean i don't want you to either but you signed the contract says gonna be yes correct unless they give you permission true so you know what i'm gonna do is quit if they won't give me permission animals sit on the sidelines okay pound guy now but i think if you go in there with their best sales voice on i think you might talk i'm into it if you just you know you're humble and you're not accusing and you're not you know they don't oh you you're not entitled it's not anything like that you're not threatening to sue them it's like i gave my word and asking for some marshy to be released for eight portion of the non compete the production only portion for twelve months and a half and you will not hear my voice on the air in another station until the non compete as ron because i am leaving in a while while i'm leaving i'm asking you version of mercy on this and then i guess you'll watch what you signed from now on yeah non competes her 'em are handcuffs that's what they're for sale it's a little bit of overkill for position like you're in any way like a lot of an overkill there's there's voice talent all over the place and you know so there you go anyway that's how i would do it if i were in your shoes thanks for the call open phones this hour this is your show america it's all of you in turns out you're just playing entertaining and this is the dave ramsey show bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang we've been voted one of the best places to work in nashville eleven times you wanna know how we do it our team has been using linked in jobs for years to find the best people to help us change lies think about it linked in as 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painless the best part of our entire experience was he sold the house on the day it went on the market from more the asking price there you go work with an expert folks butcher mind at ease go dave ramsey dot com slash agents and you can get started right now joshes weather's josh is in pittsburgh hi josh josh welcome to the dave ramsey show hi dave how you doing better than i deserve what's up so my wife and i are newlyweds recently married about six months ago more currently in baby step two and i worked through about a third of our debt snowball so far are we living complex then i thought before we were married or trying to decide whether to sell that now to speed up baby step two are currently lives properly cheaply what the rats brand finish it up to okay what what is your household income we make about two forty right now but my wife's got a raise it'll make it about three hundred guns how much debt if you got well excited about two little over two hundred thousand and were around one one fifty right now okay so some guys a dock arose gals doc right her lawyer what i'm a lawyer but my wife is the one who makes more she works in a government affairs okay wow you're killing it okay how old are you too on thirty four and she is third okay and you have a two hundred fifty thousand dollar income and you have honored and fifty thousand remaining when you're debt yes that's not including the pike right now how much much net a net cost you after you collect the rent a it's about where the additional like regular m i guess expensive sewer and things like that on the house and i i think were paying about four hundred dollars still lives there after the rent is accounted for and how much equities and the trump was a we actually talked to m a real estate agent last week and were thinking we could sell it between two hundred and twenty in that we know about alive as i am about one twenty seven all right now she could get like a hundred over a hundred and fifty you ever take fifty and i think we'd be closer to two hundred twenty twenty but we did a couple that were in okay all right well the good news is you have any ridiculously large shovel with eight good sized hole hunter fifty thousand our whole the two interpreted that lower income you should clear that very very quickly either way it sounds like you're on a year me yeah we were we are expecting kirkland non well okay i'm probably just gonna sit there for thirteen months and then you can decide what you wanna do with the trap electron probably gonna sell it at that time when i make my next purchasing the home you wanna leave in now use that equity towards the homey one living okay yeah we weren't sure are very familiar even contemplating was tied to offset the amount of interest on my on the student loan and things like that doesn't matter now is thirteen months is not interest rates not gonna matter on those 'em cause not long enough that it adds up too much on the big thing is you gotta double move if you sell it now this'll be selling now you're gonna go rent and then you're gonna buy a house in probably eighteen months right yeah and so yeah well and were not were not positive where we're gonna wind up living yet another reason the entire thing it's not there you're not gonna leave in that trap election making two and fifty thousand for very long that that yeah so eighteen months or so you're it'll be on the market whether you saw whether whether you don't which means is a double move to salad anna done get you out of debt that much faster a few months faster is all so i'm staying okay that makes sense all right that that that makes josh appreciate the call open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five you jump in we'll talk about your life and your money morgan is with us in canada morgan how're you hi dave i'm great thanks for taking my call sure what's up well my wife and i are in baby step two however we put are debt snowball on holds cash flow in nursing degree and she graduated in about three months so will be starting up her debt snowball again great really beginning to it so right currently renting the house and we've been thinking a lot about the baby steps and now they avenged including setting up per gallon payments unbeliev also been thinking a lot about a more of a minimalist lifestyle where we kind of own less stuff left controlled less tied down buyer is action and we know there's a lot of pressure on young couples and families save up and buy a house so wouldn't wanna hear from you when you're protected by homeownership is so important and on only home versus just renting well i'm not in the camp says you oughta rush rush into this and that you need to do it in a way that allows you to a bunch of stress and you're just trying to be a homeowner and at all costs and you know you got house fever and you need take a cold shower and all that kind of stuff i'm not one of those guys 'em in the middle minimal scouser friends of ours i've been on the show they're great guys if you've been following their stuff 'em in show a in so if if i remember correctly they both on house is by the way but here's the thing long term no rush if it takes you a little while and you wanna go hardcore minimalist for a little while and in the process that enables you to save even more 'em that's fine long term though a house is in canada go up in value correct yeah of course now an sodas rent and you're most expensive line item in your personal budget is housing and it's unstable bowl an increasing every year when you don't own end so you're you're you're the most expensive part of your budget is out of your control end is going up every year when you don't own so that's not a good planned long term it is a fine planned for if you wanna take a decade and do this i don't care but i don't want you forty years out of the housing market on what you're heading into retirement not have a house it's paid for because then you're controlling your retirement environment it's the biggest variable the biggest controllable controllable you control the controllables is what you're gonna do the biggest variable you control to stabilize you're live in to build wealth and so it's it's great to do all of that the pressure for young couples go buy a house is ridiculous and i fight back against that like you are so take your time get out of debt build your emergency fund if you wanna go minimalist for a long time maven by most people standards and just pile up a bunch of cash that's fine let's say you're thirty now you don't buy a house to you're forty i'm fine with that ninety it's okay it's no big deal that's not gonna ruin your life financially you're going to struggle if you never own your home it's gonna be a very difficult thing it's very hard to earn enough money the offset the increasing housing prices and the resulting increase in rental prices a because you do the rent goes up based on the foul you going up and and you know we have got a hundred plus years of a in canada in the usa of house prices going up on not every single year and not as much every year and now they're perfectly predictable but over forty or fifty year period of time this is a major asset in you're balance sheet it's a major part of your expense ratios because you're housing is you're largest expense ratio and on salt so that that's why it's a great plan the own as a long term plan when you do it wisely but rushing out there and just buying anything when you're broke just because you bought a house by by some people out there in eater something it's crazy you can't do that you're gonna get you go broke broke people biases and make some broker and that's why they call a mortgage broker show don't do that but if it takes you a little while to get there that's fine but eventually you get there and that's my that's my pitch on that i don't care what you do more tech person could potentially answer to washington this is the dave ramsey show and when you do things to say they will soon be able to do this in the news a man to no no no no no and angry guy officially summer hotter than hot any ac is running overtime last thing on your mind right now it's christmas but as crazy as it sounds the best way to have a stress free debt free christmas start putting some money away now and that's why every dollar our world's best budgeting app is celebrating christmas christmas in july were giving away free plan to help you pay all cash for christmas they get you're free all cash christmas download the help you plan a debt free christmas text cash christmas the thirty three seven eighty nine it's completely free it's a plan that'll show you how to have any debt free stressfree christmas text cash christmas to thirty three seven eighty nine philip is in san antonio high philip welcome to the dave ramsey show hey dave it's honor to talk to you you to what's up oh well i got a couple of questions i'm probably very fortunate that i have and you get the unfortunate recently got divorced sixty seven years old in how the divorce i've got money just a only been in apartment now for about four months but i've got money in my savings as city they're i'm not making any money angela like the gentleman from canada y'all were talking about the winning for long term versus buying a home a primary way maybe i need to find something but people go hey you're sixty seven years i wanna get him to find out how long will this be smarter take that money that's standing then they're a heated up investors somehow you know what what would you advise how much money's in those areas of about eighty five thousand okay what do you make a month without my four one k payments till about four thousand a month in in right now i'm just getting a three thousand dollar payment that i'm not i'm gonna good reduced out of course but a story that the young that money i'm just company savings and collect find out what you do it right in the home you moved out i was valued at one one before the divorce five to fifty and i pay my house some i got some cash so yeah you did it sell her she said she got the house yeah she's like yeah how long did you living at home since two thousand four two thousand eighteen fifteen years oakland fifty fourteen years okay all right but i got i got my attention so security the four one k i think i've got a frantic kms mhm okay well what i would love to hear you do if you can pull it off in san antonio you probably can 'em is trotta find about a hundred thousand dollar condo in just pay cash for it okay and just get you something where you don't have to worry about the upkeep of a house streams the mess with that but at least you're stabilized in your across the same thing i'm talking about with a guy from canada is you know you think about when you were a forty seven what housing costs just twenty years ago oh yeah okay in if you're if you're healthy i won't be talking to an eighty seven year old you in just twenty years right and that housing all of going up that much again you're in that twenty years but if you own it it won't have gone up that much right so go ahead and saving up money even a property by by the damn can't okay that's exactly what i do you got the eighty grand do it on you know you could use a little bit of your retirement nest egg i wouldn't if i could help but but make cash hundred hundred and fifty something like that and then just be comfortable with that i'm i'm you know i'm thinking if you watch what you're doing and you buy a nice condo in a nice project that could serve ice for the rest of your life or at least the next stage of your life whatever that is whatever the next next thing is whatever you're hung core is after this sounds like you've been to a really painful thing i'm sorry thanks for calling in open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five gregory is in philadelphia high gregory how are you good how you doing mr ramsey pleasure to meet you over the phone you to kind of help i'm calling because i'm going to be a and uncle later this month and i just wanna know what's the best financial investment or gift i can give to my future needs internet you okay 'em how much money you're talking about giving them a non a lot less than a thousand okay all right i might just give that in cash and cash thee you know the parents to do their own investing okay at that level because it's gonna if you do a bunch of a generation xers and you put it into your name friend you wanna put five hundred bucks or something or seven and fifty dollars and there's something it's it's it's a really it's a lot of money it's a nice nice thing to do but that's gonna create a lot of hassle for you hand them for the next eighteen years dealing with the end so it'd be easier to just give them the cash and let them do investing on behalf of the child okay great if they're trustworthy are trustworthy yeah that cuts worthy i just hope that they they say you know i'm i'm giving this to you and hope that you'll put it in a good mutual first college okay cool nico fun and that's what i would tell them to do but i wouldn't go by the mutual fund for them over five hundred bucks i mean if you're gonna give me if you were in unusually wealthier something in you know you were gonna give twentyfive thousand dollars now will get a little bit more controlling right but you don't wanna mess with it for eighteen years for five hundred bucks it's not you know it's a really nice gift and i appreciate the sentiment what you're doing i'm not depleting i'm not demeaning that at all but i would you know i i just let them control it and give them you know you're suggestion my hope is is that you'll take this money invested in good mutual fund for his college and that's how i see this working that kind of thing and then whatever they do with it then it's up to them brady is with us in tulsa oklahoma high brady welcome to the dave ramsey show thanks for having me sure what kind of help my wife and i i've been running a tree removal business for about six years and typically i just run with part time people each day i'll use a temp agency and just have them bring me as many people if i need for today and instead were we've decided that i need the hiring fulltime person and i'm just curious year in how to go about getting that her son okay 'em well i will tell you from having run businesses my whole life they most difficult hire you will ever make in your life is you're first one the most difficult firing you'll ever have in their life hoosier first one 'em in so you know it just takes a lot of you know it's kind of gut wrenching you're kind of putting yourself out there and you're saying i'm disguise counting all made a pay him every friday day i mean it's tell you it's like it's like having a kid or something you know it's a lot of responsibility you know what i'm saying right so it's a little bit terrifying for most people it was for me anyway i remember that in so i just what i did in those old days wasn't i said hey you know i'm not gonna hide anything from you did i'm a small operation we have to cut down trees and remove trees or neither one of us are gonna eat right i mean if there's not treason stumps be removed then we got a problem you may so a were gonna both work on the marketing aspect of this meaning that the better job we do and they're happier are current customers are the more customers will get and so you know when when or cutting up a tree that's marketing when we were talking to the homeowner and not tearing up other stuff and turn up the yard or something further then it's already torn up that's marketing 'cause they're gonna referral to their friends and so you and me run this business together even though you technically work for me me more don't be in there together every day it's just you and me in the truck right so you gotta cry you you that's the way i talked about when i heard the first hand especially on her 'cause i don't know if it's gonna be open about it was but i couldn't guarantee anybody anything you know if you don't if you don't get a bunch of business you don't stay open you've been doing it six years that's good news right but yeah yeah not worried about in order yeah i think i i think i talked to him about this is a small operational go spend a lot of time together that's thing one thing too is a higher somebody you really like this good character good morals you're gonna be spending a lotta time whether you don't wanna work with a jerk everyday and even if they're talented cutting up three so i don't give a crap leisure town will teach you moved up a tree but the question is do i like you got good character i want family around my family's gonna hang together to be best friends but we have to be very similar to spend a lot of time together and that's the way i did the first few and it was really good thanks for calling there now there's a couple of hundred thousand people in the largest facebook group dealing with ramsey baby steps is the official based group of ours ramsey baby steps community you have dashed joined but obviously we let folks in sensors to her thousand plus in lots of great threads in great conversations in great accountability ingrained courage what great information the way you guys in their support each other is really encouraging thank you heather is in thee ramsey baby steps community she says my electric company keeps advertising advertising average billing is it a good deal or not worth it doesn't cost a thing and it makes you budgeting easier when you're first starting because it averages alger billing is what it amounts to is not gonna cost you dime more or a dime less they're gonna get all their money for their electricity but they're not gonna charge you extra they average building process and all they do is they just go back to eighty four months and the average it out and they put her down and they jack it up a little bit so the you don't get to the end and you're short but if you're a little bit short because you're looks real went way up then you're gonna pay that difference at the end anyway so it's not a problem i actually like it i've never personally used it because i'm always had a volatile income and so volatile bills didn't didn't scare me a cause they just are what they are but in our electric electricity was fairly predictable 'em you know i'm in tennessee ahead gas natural gas heat and so my electricity bill in the winter was low in the summer we we had electricity running air conditioner and it was a very high because weaken a carve are humidity in serving in slices here in tennessee so i in the summer so that's you know that's just where you can predict this and i didn't have i didn't choose to do it but in coaching folks over the years 'em you know the one on one coaching i did when i first started in are coaches today the average the average billing process smooths out makes it a very predictable bill it becomes one of those more it's a fixed bill which is you know in that helps people especially when you first start budgeting inside when you're doing your everydollar app and so forth so it's fine it's fine to adrian is with us in louisville kentucky high adrian how're you dave thanks for taking my call sure what's up so a the company i work for reached recently purchased last year and because of that a they're gonna basically we had employees star accelerating in that benefit so they're looking at everything that we made last year and they're gonna match it in in allocated shares so the short part is i'll be essentially giving sixty thousand dollars next year an employee stock the and either rollover indian forty one k or but i could take the cash distribution on originally was thinking the role of it you know just rolled over into my four one k but we're on baby step two and my wife and i have quite a bit of debt and we were wondering should we you know used this cash distribution to try the pay off some of that that okay now are debt snowball i'm a little bit confused or you've done some bad information more the i'm not sure which if they can if the stock plan is inside your four one k that's fine but you can't taken outside program in just stick it in your four one k basically what the games because of the company and then cloudy skies low then tomorrow it's either be rolled over into the eligible retirement account which would not be rolled over into ineligible retirement account if it wasn't already in trouble retirement account is it inside of a retirement account this penalised if you take it out now or will it at that time of year okay so it's not just gonna get taxed it's gonna get taxed n penalised okay 'em end if you're company's been purchased you're old for a one k can be rolled over to an individualized right right okay so can you put it into the new one in roll it into you're i mean can you put into their old for a one k enroll we're old for a one k out to and i all right yeah that's what i would not that's what i would do because if you take it out you're not only gonna get hit with ordinary income tax rates so on you know twentyfive thirty percent but you're also gonna get hit with a ten percent penalty it's like saying they've got cash up my four one k to pay off my debt no you never do that except to avoid bankruptcy or foreclosure so since it's inside of a four one k end it old for a one k the new company coming in allows you to roll we're old for a one k then the law allows you to roll your four one k to a new hire ray in a direct transfer rollover zero taxes with the smartvestor pro that's what i would doing keep the government's trans off of all this money in the stock gets cashed out inside of there in his moved in mutual funds you understand that part right yes sir okay yeah you don't keep it in the company stock so a wild guess you have a chance they're accelerating you're making you cash it out as a part of the purchases sounds like okay cool thank thanks for calling open phones at triple eight eight to five five two two five quinn is in wichita high clinton how're you today dave how're you just the same which gwynne i'm so sorry is a clear win you got it right okay quinn okay quinn how can i help has been a my husband and i are bad except while there and then won't put you on hold to figure out what's wrong with your phone will come back to ghetto daniel is in dallas hi daniel welcome to the dave ramsey show hi dave how you doing today better than i deserve what's up i have a interesting question for you a bit of a two part question i started a handyman business in it is absolutely exploding in a looking to hire somebody on here pretty quickly answer the first question 'em in shrinking labor pool of people that do what i do on this looking for some advice and find the best qualified person possibly can and then also what would you recommend on paying somebody i really like would you say about paying people are commission and i really wanna stay away from our league when people look on the clock and just wanna get your thoughts on it and well i think i'd be willing to pay a little bit more 'em in you know if i were you get the higher higher quality character person because as you know the handyman business as you said is exploding it's a bill you've got the ability to really make some serious money there because people who who do repairs who actually price reasonably show up on time complete the repair as agreed on time are so rare that you're freaking unicorn and so people will read the spread the word man i mean you're customers i'll give you more business and you go hand can't handle and that's what you're already discovering what you don't want is a guy working for the messes up yeah and so you're willing to pay a little bit more 'cause he's part of our marketing plan his great job the great job he does and the way he dresses in the he smiles at the customer is is nice and you know doesn't use foul language and so on and doesn't walk in there half drunk or something or whatever the problem is it that's part of your advertising budget he's you're advertising budget and so i know him a little little bit more and you know i don't know how you bedroom jobs outer how big these jobs are on average but if you can figure out a way to pay him a per job a percentage on the jobs that he does a with a guarantee you're gonna make least this at least acts but i think you could make why on this percentage but worst case i'm gonna pay yaks but i think without thinking with the salary commission boy i wouldn't call it commission i would just say a percentage surge of the of the job because he's not selling the jobs you're selling the jobs that right yeah and he just gonna execute the repair correct yeah yeah so he's gonna get paid for doing the repair but you know you wanna talk to this guy staff to brain cells to rub together in terms of his people skills sure because you're people skills inside that homer what's causing your business to explode more so then you're a building the fix a free dishwasher and so that's what you're looking for there's a great book out it'll help you with this they were using are hiring a good friend of mine wrote called named patrick lynch only the book is called the ideal team player okay and they ideal team player has three attributes if they come to work here they're hungry meaning they're aggressive there humble meaning it's not all about them and they're smart and that isn't a that they have six p h decent means they're good with people people smart hungary humble and smart that's what you're looking for him well you'll be glad and you did you get better people when you do that and that's how you been pulled him out of there then you become a destination in tight market you become a destination of lawyer i am this is the dave ramsey show two guys it's 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