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European companies ditch dividends to save cash
"You're listening to the news on Africa. Business Radio at this hour European companies ditching to maintain cash and comply with regulations in response to the financial havoc caused by the spread of the new coronavirus. More than eighty of the top. Six hundred listed companies in Europe costs scratch. They didn't between February twenty four April eight writers analysts found among the latest suspended ends. We have French aerospace and defense suppliers pills and Swedish metal cotton twos and mining. GimMe Sandvik Tuesday. Uk listed companies council about sixty billion dollars in dividends this year according to reports by analysts company Link Group and that was the news business radio. You can't continue so listen. Live online at Stop Your Dot Africa Business Region. Come over a mobile APP. Chih-jen do thank you for listening.
Building the modern panic room
"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by indeed are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today and indeed dot com slash marketplace that's indeed dot com slash marketplace place end by the michigan economic development corporation jon rahm minnelli's founder and ceo airspace experienced technology says in michigan revolution is any air find out what planet m is doing to help businesses make that possible at planet m dot com that's p l i n e t n dot com home security goes from dull to double o seven live from london this is the marketplace morning report from the bbc world service i'm victoria craig in front of on it good morning first united nations nuclear clear watchdog will hold a special meeting today to discuss iran's breach of uranium enrichment limit agreed and a twenty fifteen iran nuclear deal iran embassador to the u n must be tougher yvonne she told the bbc his country would move further away from the international agreement and if european nations don't deliver economic benefits of the deal the bbc is barco reports for a year after the uss pulled out of the nuclear deal iran took no action but it's now begun to increase production of nuclear fuel in small and calculated steps amos to pressure europe to deliver on the economic benefits the v accord driven she said european leaders had promised to do so but had failed to deliver when president trump decided to to get out of the nuclear you viewed approached by see european there's encouraging us insisting iran not to get out of the nuclear deal and they promised us to do exactly what they were supposed to do to compensate what you have no so this is all of the usa draw so it's not acceptable to us to see the the europeans are not honoring their commitment if nothing happens and then in the course of the next sixty days i have to go to the surface on the elements of the of the third phase or not known yet but the but when it comes to that point and also if you're going to do you think president trump wants to negotiate he has said that he is easier to negotiate with you don't but i should say that negotiation on the policy of maximum pressure that they are playing against iran dawn i do not go hand in hand he said reports that iran may dramatically raise levels of uranium enrichment were hypothetical such a move would probably hastened the collapse of the deal and raise the prospect of usa military strikes barba assure that let's do the numbers global oil prices are rising amid tensions surrounding the iran nuclear deal now after you us crude stockpiles fell more than expected stocks are little changed ahead of fed chair jerome powell said my annual to day testimony on capitol hill to brazil now where a crucial to vote on pension reform is expected in congress today it would pave the way from minimum retirement age of sixty five for men and sixty two for women it seen by many as a key element of precedent shy of bolsonaro plan to restore economic growth and it's the first major test with the new government at the bbc is daniel gallus reports from south paolo politicians in brazil have been discussing reforming pensions for the past four years and now mp's will finally bring the matters to a vote economists say that if brazil doesn't reforming system the country's economic future will be in jeopardy the government of president dryable so now to say that brazilian make savings of up to two hundred and sixty billion dollars over ten years but many disagree with this plan opposition parties safety we forms will punish for workers who will be forced to start working earlier in life unretire later ten years ago brazil was one of these facts emerging countries in the world but since then it's economy kadhamy has suffered with severe recession in modest growth in some balls i'm the bbc's daniel gallus for marketplace remember this chill inducing film from two thousand to watch it's a scene from the jodie foster drama panic room but it's not just in hollywood people feel the need to hide from the bad guys apparently in real life secret rooms are becoming more popular aunt more luxurious some have shut out two hundred thousand dollars on the doors allowed steve humble built them for a living rebuild a really wide variety of secret door so the doors could be described as many different things some of them look like bookcases winner in the quote position some of them look like brick walls or stone walls or grandfather clocks or pieces of art you name it we've probably conceal the secret door to look like that inside of the house why do you think these kind of safety features has become trendy air with us v proliferation of internet people can see that it's so much easier to break into safe nowadays than they thought it was if i want my stuff to be secure it really has to be also hidden in addition to inside of safe or a vault and so people learned that the the demand for what we produce becomes greater and greater so do you think the security concerns turns out he called across the world or are there certain things in different areas that people are more concerned about no they're definitely not equal probably eighty percent of our business is based in the united states and i think that is because we americans culturally we just like be idea of self reliance maybe more than other places we don't wanna depend on police to be able to protect our families what's the craziest interesting pakistan while a i've done so many really crazy projects in my career there there's one that i built that was for a what i was told us the finest underground bomb shelter in the world be underground portion of the shelter was about twenty thousand square feet and we built a series of really high end secret doors including one that was large enough the one who is any open position you could drive a vehicle through it wow that is serious panic room dedication now one final question do you yourself oh not one of these secret doors i do yes of course i started this business really from nothing and so i had to be kind of corey when people ask me that question and say like oh i could tell you but i'd have to kill you or whatever but now i could tell you when you sit down in my piano you have to play the notes to
How Biden And Trump Plan To Reshore Jobs
"N. p. r. everyone cardiff visit indicator from planet money. Today's of course election day and here on the indicator we have already examined the big differences in the economic policy. Agendas of the two candidates. Donald trump and joe biden so today on the show. We're gonna actually look at a goal that the two candidates actually agree on specifically they both want to compel. Us manufacturing companies to move their operations out of foreign countries. Most of all out of china and back to the us back to us shores so that they ended up hiring us workers into those manufacturing jobs. Both candidates want to re shore as it's called those jobs now. There's a very contentious debate within economics about whether getting companies to reassure. Jobs is actually a good idea. But that's not what today's show shows about. Tae show is about the different approaches to achieving that goal that candidate wants to pursue and about what's at stake for the us economy us companies in us workers and to tell us all about that. I'm going to be speaking today with matt klein. He's the author of a book. called trade. wars are class wars and he's an economics commentator at barons matt has a new article in barron's look at the economics of restoring jobs in our chat about. That topic is coming up right after a quick break I'm gonna go to shop dot. Npr dot org slash planet. Money what we've got for sale here is a t shirt a sticker the patch from when we sent a satellite to space bunch of planet. Money stuff for sale at shop dot. Npr dot org slash planet. Money for all of the planet. Levers your life matt klein welcome back to the indicator. Thanks very much ironman. Matt let me start with this. Us companies have invested an awful lot in building factories in china setting up their operations in china. Give us a sense of just. How much is at stake for those companies if they were to feel compelled to leave china and move their operations back to the us. So it's a lot of money. According to analysis from the rhodium group american companies have since the early nineteen nineties invested. About two hundred and sixty billion dollars in chinese operations and they were to abandon china and up somewhere else. All of those assets would be worthless so they would have lost two hundred sixty billion dollars and then on top of that they'd have to spend a lot of money. Replacing those assets somewhere else and on top of that chances are wherever they moved operations their profit margins wouldn't be as good as were in china because otherwise they would have already been there not been in china so they're going to be perpetually losing money on that from being less profitable so would be a very expensive proposition. I would imagine then h-. Us companies are extremely reluctant to start voluntarily. Moving those jobs back to the us where they would have to rebuild all of these things that they've already invested in building in china that's right so there was a survey that was published Over the summer by the us of commerce in shanghai and they found that of us manufacturers with operations in china seventy one percent had no plans to move production at all and under Only four percents that they're going to move to the us and even then of those that were planning to move you know usually places like vietnam or mexico or what have you. They weren't going to move all of the chinese production. Most were just saying they are going to move. You know sort of ten to thirty percent of their chinese production. So there's very little appetite among us businesses to move anything out of china so it seems like given the expense for us companies in moving their operations out of china and back to the us they would probably need some kind of a monetary or a financial incentive from the government itself. Right is that a fair way to characterize this that somebody else needs to provide the carrot or the stick to get these companies to come back. I think that's absolutely right. I mean what the simplest way of thinking about this is. They spent a very long time setting up their operations to be the way they are so they have to have a very good reason to change them. And that reason is ultimately going to be money one way or another okay so now. Let's go through each of the two candidates plans for re shoring jobs back to the us from china. One you start with joe biden so there are a lot of moving parts here but basically the key things as i understand them as on the one hand the government will just spend a lot more money on. us made manufactured goods. Just expose saying we want to procure hundreds of billions of dollars of stuff. And we're gonna make sure that we get them from american manufacturers. There's also going to be subsidies for research and development in the us and they're going to be changes to regulations and taxes essentially discourage companies from moving jobs offshore and in particular with the federal government is buying something to make sure that there's a certain amount of whatever it is they're buying that actually comes from american suppliers. Okay and the trump plan which i imagine includes maybe a bigger role for the stick and the carrot. Yeah i mean again. There's there's certainly a mix on both sides but the thing that's been most prominent has been you know the of tariffs and we've seen this particularly in the case of of where you're essentially are saying if you're importing anything from china or some other countries that have been hit with tariffs and you'll you know the government is just gonna add on some surcharge. Whether it's you know ten percent twenty five percent thirty percent what have you And that obviously going to the sort of the relative cost of goods so there's a mix that's definitely sort of on the stick side. Yeah and not. Your piece makes kind of interesting point. Which is that these approaches to re shoring or bringing back. Jobs are not just about the jobs themselves. They're also about getting the us back into high tech manufacturing which appears to have stagnated for you know maybe one or two decades even yes really striking actually that even with the growth of the us semiconductor industry which is still among the top in the world. Overall manufacturing output in the us is essentially been flat over the past twenty years manufacturing capacity in the. Us has been flat over the past twenty years even though the us economy has grown a lot even though the global economy has grown tremendously out the manufacturing sector has been stagnant. And you see that. In all sorts of things and in fact as you mentioned with you know high tech with semiconductors pharmaceuticals that production is actually really been hit and a lot of ways that the sort of the us made chips are no longer the leaders that it's actually Taiwan semiconductor samsung at the cutting edge. There pharma us manufacturing production peak in two thousand six. It's fallen twenty percent since then you've seen that's basically been displaced by incoming from elsewhere. So you can see plausibly that the extent that there's research showing the connection between You know being close to production and actually being at the logical frontier of research that you know that could be a real problem. Longer-term yeah and matt imagine somebody listening to this conversation. Saying you know what. I understand that. And i'm on board with like us. High tech well-paying manufacturing jobs. But that the way to get those jobs is to change domestic policies like regulations or tax policies in the might be just as effective as an approach. That says hey. Let's get the jobs out of china and back to the us. What do you think about that argument. I think in many ways both presidential candidates would agree with that in and you can see sort of you look at their policies as a whole there elements of that on both sides whether it's Supporting you know subsidizing researchers saying you know the government's gonna support demand or you know various tax incentives for investment and exchanges inexpensive. Changes in regulation They both have i- ideas that in principle would make it more attractive to you know create jobs and investing in states. Yeah in matt. We have a sense of how to think about which of these approaches from biden and trump would be the most likely to succeed in actually bringing jobs back to the. Us will the extent that we've had a couple of years to see the trump strategy in action and that hasn't really had a major impact on manufacturing employment or manufacturing production. I think we can reasonably rule out it. Being you know tremendously effective. Maybe maybe compared to the alternative it was it was helpful but it wasn't. You know dramatically effective. So i think compared to that commitments to spend hundreds of billions of dollars additionally on us manufacturers when total manufactured good sales in the us are sort of in the order of six trillion dollars. I mean that's the significant percentage. And so you can imagine that being you know having a real impact their matt klein author of trade wars are class wars. Thanks so much man. This episode of the indicator was produced by jamila huxtable and factcheck. Sean south donya. Our editors patty hirsch and the indicator is a production of npr.
Midday Brief for Monday, May 13th
"Join the Wall Street Journal may twentieth. Through the twenty third in New York City for the future of everything festival here from over seventy five renounce, speakers and visionaries touch taste and interact with the products that are redefining tomorrow to learn more and buy tickets. Visit our website at F O E festival Dodd w s j dot com. Twenty percent off with code podcast. I'm Jay are Waylon and the newsroom at the Wall Street Journal in New York stocks open Monday down sharply after China announced plans to raise tariffs on roughly sixty billion dollars worth of US goods in retaliation for President Trump's decision to escalate tariffs on Chinese imports. Those tariffs would be as high as twenty five percents on products currently taxes at five to ten percent starting June. First the supreme court has ruled the consumers can proceed with an antitrust lawsuit that challenges Apple's exclusive control over the marketplace for iphone apps, the plaintiffs in the case allege that consumers pay inflated prices because apple requires it. All phone software be sold and purchased through the company's apps store, they allege that apps would be cheaper of software developers could sell them directly in bypass apple as a middleman apple typically takes a thirty percent cut. Not every app. It sells and Hollywood legend doors day has died at the age of ninety seven. She was best known for movies such as pill. Oh, talk and the Pajama Game, and the song whatever will be will be also known as case, Sarah, Sarah for more on these and other stories of the day, go to wsJcom or the WSJ app.
Monitor Show 00:00 09-21-2020 00:00
"Your? Face. Am I safe a new drive care to ask a lot of questions and when they're about their safety, you need the right answers visit saved me with a C dot Org for information on correct carseat use and proper sizes a message from Tex- dot. The markets InFocus, every Business Day Bloomberg markets podcast with Paul Sweeney in. Some sectors that you want to have more or less exposure to set off kneeling global. Once again, a military today's Wall Street actions thought on Apple here on Bloomberg, intelligence Bloomberg opinion, and influential newsmaker, very, very disturbing dynamics at work Berg market with Paul Sweeney and Vonnie Quinn subscribed today at bloombergradio dot com, the business half or I June. Capital of the world twenty, four hours a day at Bloomberg Dot com on the Bloomberg business. APP and Bloomberg quick. Is Bloomberg radio. This is Bloomberg daybreak Middle East talk stories this morning Tiktok Ucla moves a step closer with of course, important developments and announcement that. Results would be great for America by Dan Aims for evaluation of sixty billion dollars if the deal goes through. Investors remain watchful for signs of progress on US fiscal stimulus package. Jay Powell testifies before Congress this week to discuss pandemic relief efforts. Iran rejects the US sanctions.
O'Reilly Update Morning Edition, January 30, 2020
"You'll riley here and I'm warming up stand by for the O'Reilly update morning edition but first. Are you ready to lead an active balanced life with a Michael Phelps swim SPA by master. Spas you can exercise and relax without leaving home the year round pool alternative. Turn it features and adjustable swim current and massage jets for ultimate wellness. Master Spas is now offering fifteen hundred bucks off a Michael. Michael Phelps whim SPA so please go to Michael. PHELPS SWIM SPA DOT COM slash bill. Save fifteen hundred dollars. Michael Phelps swim SPA DOT COM slash. Bill it is very safe to say that many Americans are obsessed with money coinage assets and the question becomes. Is that a good or a bad thing now. Obsession is usually bad but if you think about it in this country we live in a very dangerous jurist time where people can be attacked physically legally in many ways. And if you don't have any money you are week. You are vulnerable. You are a target money can protect you. You can buy a big house. A security system security guards good lawyers. But if you don't have money you can't do any of that if you are poor. You are powerless. Now if you accumulate money by hosing other people by stealing by deceit that's awful. We all know that but money can do a lot of good things things and open up opportunities look Donald Trump. He never would president. Had he not been a billionaire. He uses money to accumulate power. That's what Michael Bloomberg were. Sixty billion dollars is doing. He's trying to hurt Donald Trump and get the presidency by using money if trump and Bloomberg or poppers. You would have never heard their names. As far as your personal life is concerned. I say this work hard. Be Very smart with your money but get as much as you can give it away to charity but protect yourself and money is the best way to do that now. This Deborah's home was stolen. I don't mean thieves stole stuff. I mean scammer. Emmer stoled her home. Criminals found the title to her home online filed fraudulent documents claiming they owned it. An eighty. Five thousand inequity gone on. You should immediately go to home title. Loc Dot Com and register to see if your home's title has been tampered with and while you're there I got you sixty risk free. Today's protection please visit home title. Dot Com home. Todd LoC dot com that is the morning rally update more analysis later on.
Closing Bell Brief for Monday, May 13th
"Join the Wall Street Journal may twentieth. Through the twenty third in New York City for the future of everything festival here from over seventy five renounce, speakers and visionaries touch taste and interact with the products that are redefining tomorrow to learn more and buy tickets. Visit our website at F O E festival Dodd w s j dot com. Twenty percent off with code podcast. I'm chair Whalen and the newsroom at the Wall Street Journal in New York the escalating trade war with China triggered abroad selloff on Wall Street Monday. The Dow Jones industrials ended down six hundred seventeen points or two point four percent in closed at twenty five thousand three twenty five. That was the Dow's biggest one day drop since January. Meanwhile, the NASDAQ was off about three point four percent and the S and P five hundred was off two point four percents. Here's Wall Street Journal markets reporter, Michael worst thorn on Wall Street seeing trade uncertainty as the new normal. You'll have a tweet one day, you'll have some sort of hope that there's a deal coming and then everything just a fall party again. And that's you know, really, what investors are bracing themselves for there is no expectation that they'll be a deal, you know, really anytime soon just because they're because both sides really do seem far apart from these main issues like intellectual property and things like that that investors or are more than likely now pricing in that it's gonna take a lot longer. Get to that closed deal, but concerns over trade specifically China saying it would raise tariffs on roughly sixty billion dollars worth of US imports took their toll on company stocks closely tied to China, heavy machinery maker Caterpillar fell four and a half percent while Boeing was down nearly five percent in apple which assembles almost all of its goods in China. Slid five percents for more markets. News and analysis could a wsJcom or the WSJ app.
Midday Brief for Friday, November 8th
"The Wall Street Journal listeners. Come from all walks of life and business and no matter what type of business urine eighty P is here to help you achieve what you're working looking for with. HR talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and designed for people learn more at design don ADP DOT com. President trump is disputing a statement made by China on Thursday. He says the. US hasn't yet agreed. To rollback tariffs on China as part of a trade the deal between the two. Chinas commerce ministry had announced that would be part of the first phase of potential deal the US has imposed tariffs on about three hundred sixty billion dollars worth of Chinese imports. In four rounds of levies online retail giant Baba is seeking to raise ten to fifteen billion dollars ahead of its new new listing on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. This month the company is already listed in New York. It's China's most valuable company by market capitalisation alibaba plans plans to launch a share sale after it's November eleven singles day shopping festival China's equivalent of black Friday. A listing of ten billion dollars or more would surpass Uber as the biggest stock offering this year. Today marks one year since the one hundred fifty. Three thousand Acre Campfire destroyed most do Paradise California. Yeah and caused widespread damage in the surrounding communities. Many residents have yet to return to their homes and the community is still struggling to recover for a closer look at Paradise then and now and all of our other stories please head to our website wsj.com or the W._S._J. APP.
O'Reilly Update Morning Edition, February 17, 2020
"You'll riley here and I'm warming on standby for the O'Reilly Update Morning Edition. But I you would pay the IRS. If you could but you can't and now you're worrying. Is this the day? The IRS shows up at my work garnishes my wages and seizes my bank accounts and your irs nightmare. Please call optima tax relief. Ask about the fresh start initiative powerful program that could save you thousands if you qualify put. Your irs worries to rest. Please call eight hundred nine five six six one. Six six eight hundred nine five six six one. Six six some restrictions apply please visit OPTIMA TAX RELIEF DOT com. Call it the white privilege ticket or report over the weekend claims Mike Bloomberg is considering Hillary Clinton as his running mate. When I first saw that my linear thinking mind said no way a few hours later the Bloomberg people backed away from the report which was full of anonymous sources. Here's why Bernie Sanders supporters comprise about twenty five percent of the Democratic Party base. They don't like Bloomberg because he's a white billionaire they don't like Hillary Clinton because she's been trashing Bernie so mayor. Mike is okay with losing a big chunk of the DEM vote. Should he secure the nomination come on it? Bloomberg does get it. He has to choose a liberal African American. Ask his second. The truth is that the Democratic Party is split it's evolved into tribes and in order to defeat Donald Trump who's basis united. The Democrats also have to be united and that's why the road is hard for mayor. Mike Bloomberg Bernie Sanders doesn't like wealthy people in Corporate America. And that is Michael Bloomberg. Who's worth sixty billion dollars? Sanders Supporters GonNa turn around and vote for Bloomberg. I Dunno should be interesting. Come November. Now this Deborah's home was stolen. I don't mean thieves stole stuff. I mean scammer stoled. Her home. Criminals found the title to her home online filed fraudulent documents claiming they owned it an eighty five thousand inequity gone. You should immediately go to home title. Loc Dot Com and register to see if your home's title has been tampered with and while you're there I got you sixty risk free days protection. Please visit home title. Dot Com home. Todd LoC dot com that is the morning rally update more analysis later on.
Closing Bell Brief for Thursday, December 12th
"Wall Street Journal listeners. Come from all walks of life and business and no matter what type of business urine eighty P is here to help you achieve what you're working king for with. HR talent time benefits and payroll informed by data and designed for people learn more at design don ADP DOT com. This is your closing bell brief for Thursday December twelfth. I'm Charlie Turner at the Wall Street. Journal stocks gained ground after President trump signaled the US and China China could soon strike a trade deal. The Dow Jones industrials rose. Two Hundred Twenty points to twenty eight thousand one thirty two. The Nasdaq composite and s and p five hundred closed at record highs. The Nasdaq jumping sixty. Three points the. SNP Gaining twenty-six The Wall Street Journal says US negotiators have offered to slash existing tariffs by as much as half on roughly three hundred sixty billion dollars of Chinese made goods as well as to cancel a new round of levies. Set to take effect on Sunday. President trump wrote in a tweet on Thursday morning getting getting very close to a big deal with China. The offer to reduce tariffs was reportedly made in roughly the past five days and in exchange the. US side has demanded. Beijing make firm commitments to purchase large quantities of US agricultural and other products also better protect us. Intellectual Property Rights and widen access to China's financial services sector. Should China not carry out. Its pledges as part of the potential deal. The tariff rates would return to their original levels. The Journal says federal officials are considering seeking a preliminary injunction against facebook over antitrust concerns related to how its products interact if it materializes the action by the Federal Trade Commission would focus on facebook policies concerning how it integrates its APPS or allows them to work with potential rivals alongside. Its core social network. FACEBOOK's keep products what's also include Instagram Messenger and what's APP for more head to wsj.com or the W._S._J. APP.
CBS2 NEWS PM NEWS UPDATE 11-27-20
"Hi i'm dana tyler. Cbs news new york. Here are your headlines. Black friday the kickoff of the holiday shopping season is a bit different. This year diehard deal seekers at the malls but not in the same numbers as previous years and despite cova concerns the national retail federation expects holiday sales to grow over last year. Predicting online and in-person spending could reach seven hundred sixty billion dollars. Millions of americans are traveling this holiday weekend. Despite warnings to stay home health experts are now expecting a post holiday spike in cova cases in our area new jersey reported another forty one hundred new cases on friday new york city reporting just over fifteen hundred new coronavirus cases. The salvation army's red kettle campaign is turning technology to make it safer and easier for people to donate bell. Ringers will still be out in person but there will be a qr code on every kettle allowing people to donate electronically using their smartphones last year. The salvation army's bell ringers raised one hundred twenty six million dollars weather wise mix of sun and clouds with temperatures in the low sixties. Mainly clear and chilly riding the low forty six coin says expect sunny and cool saturday. The high fifty five degrees the low forty remember you can get your forecast and local news headlines twenty four seven streaming on. Cbs new york. Find it on her website. Cbs york dot com or on the cbs news app. I'm dana tyler. cbs news.
Drug Lord Hippos
"Pablo Escobar was the biggest drug lord. The world has ever known at the height of his power. He had a near monopoly on the cocaine trade. In the United States, he had a peak inflation adjusted net worth of sixty billion dollars. He was personally responsible for thousands of murders and dozens of acts of terrorism in Columbia. Today, in Columbia, there are approximately one hundred hippopotamuses running wild. What are these two things have to do with each other? Well, everything learn more about the cocaine hippopotamuses and this episode of everything. Everywhere daily. This episode is sponsored by G Adventures. These are very troubled times even the things are starting to get better and more countries are opening up. People are still hesitant to travel, and that is totally understandable. That is why adventures has announced its new travel with confidence plus collection. The travel with confidence plus collection are thirty-seven tours and twenty-seven countries that have increased safety. And Sanitation Protocols to protect you and other travelers. These tours will have smaller group sizes, private transportation, and cheaper options to get your own room as well as more personal space. G Adventures has also earned the world travel and Tourism Council safe travel stamp for their health and hygiene protocols and has implemented the adventure travel trade associations covid nineteen, nine health and safety guidelines. The travel with confidence tours are available for booking today, and we'll be departing from October second twenty twenty to the end of twenty twenty one for more information book your Tour Click on the link in the show notes. Pablo. Escobar's the most well known drug lord narcoterrorists in the world even though he's been dead for almost thirty years, his organization, the Medellin cartel was founded and led by him and its peak. He became the wealthiest criminal in world history is empire was built on a foundation of violence and bloodshed. He was responsible for nineteen eighty-nine truck bombing and bogus aw which killed sixty three people and injured over a thousand. He was behind the bombing and of Janka flight two or three, which killed one hundred and ten people. It is estimated that during his reign of terror, he was responsible for the deaths of over four thousand people including two hundred judges, one thousand police and numerous journalists, government officials, and innocent bystanders at its peak. The Medellin cartel was responsible for over eighty percent of the cocaine smuggled into the United States. He was so wealthy that once when he and his family were in hiding his daughter got sick and to keep her warm, he literally burned two million dollars in cash in one, thousand nine, you want he surrendered to authorities under the condition that he could build his own prison built to his specifications and higher his own guard who were loyal to him wasn't a prison so much as a fortress to protect him from his enemies. As darkly fascinating character as Pablo Escobar is this episode really isn't about him this episode is about the private zoo he created on his thirty six, hundred Acre estate called us. novelist. On. His sprawling property he had as all meg low maniacal leaders do a collection of animals not just any animals but animals which were brought from all over the world in a zoo were rhinoceroses, giraffes, zebras, ostriches, and four hippopotamuses. After Escobar's death in nineteen ninety-three, all of the animals were moved or sold to other zoos or. Except for the hippos. Hippos were considered too large difficult to move. So they were left in place and forgotten. The hippos whoever got along quite nicely, this tropical and wet part of Columbia. In fact, the four original hippos are now twenty seven years later, one hundred hippos some experts estimate that within ten to twenty years there could be thousands of them. These one hundred hippos have become the center of a huge controversy in the vast majority of cases. Invasive species are usually a bad thing. They did not evolve in the environment. So Predator prey balances don't exist. In the specific case of the hippos they feed in the evenings on land, and then during the day, they go into the water to cool off where they defecate bringing in nutrients. This can cause algae blooms, which can kill off other species in the water by preventing the availability of oxygen or other nutrients. There's also the danger which the hippos themselves possess in Africa. KIP was a responsible for more deaths every year than any other animal. So far no one has been harmed or killed by the Hippos in Columbia, but the risk is there and will increase as the population rises. However. There's another side to the story. Ecologists are not universal in their condemnation of the hippos and neither are the people of the region who live with them. For starters the hippos have become a popular tourist attraction which bring in much-needed money just being hippos themselves is enough to bring in people but having lineage which extends to Pablo Escobar makes them extra special. The ecological argument is much more complex than it might first appear in a project funded by the National Geographic Society researchers, compared Colombian lakes with hippos versus lakes without hippos. The study was comprehensive looking at the total diversity around the lakes down to the microbes found in the lake water itself. The researchers found their worst differences between the lakes, but the differences weren't major. One. Of the major arguments in favor of the hippos comes from the concept of re wilding. The idea stems from the fact that about eleven thousand years ago large herbivores were much more common in the area they were removed from the ecosystem when humans migrated, there hunted them to extinction. Most of the assumptions which are made about the ecosystem assumed that way it is now is the way it's supposed to be. There was a creature known as the not long that which was a large center aquatic herbivores which lived in the region. The Hippos today are filling a very similar role in the ecosystem, what the not long glitch would have held. There have been other cases around the world where the reintroduction of large herbivores have had positive effects on grasslands. Several researchers think that the accidental introduction of Hippos to Columbia might actually be a good thing in that. The hippos are filling an ecological niche which has been missing for thousands of years. There doesn't appear to be any immediate need to take action whatever the impact the hippos have at this point seems to be minor either way and because the hippos are so large and their numbers are so small, they will be easy to find the decision ever be made to remove them. Until then if you live in the Western Hemisphere your best opportunity to see who does in the wild beat ahead to Porto. Triumphal. Columbia, to view the animals which were brought there by the world's biggest drug lord Pablo Escobar. Executive producer of everything everywhere. Daily is James Makhala. Everyone who supports the show over on patron please remember to leave a review over on apple podcasts. Even a simple review can really help the show get discovered in the Sea of other podcasts that are out there.
Mac OS Ken: 07.02.2019
"Circle the date called democ says apple is set to stay the thirtieth of july for its third quarter fiscal year twenty nineteen earnings report ends subsequent call with analysts in other news i'm gonna be traveling that week but this is mac always kim met apple surges on trade truce v in the lend mr five and two tales of services it's to say the second of july twenty nineteen i'm ken ray and this is news from meko west ken brought to you by yours truly an sponsored by squarespace your place online get ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain with coupon code meko west ken at squarespace dot com slash meko west cat this show is also supported by people like you patrons through patriotic find out more in that your support at patriotic dot com slash meko west can we seem to be in the trade truce which wall street sees as excellent news bloomberg says apple shares let aytac rally on sunday this after officials from the u s china declared a trade truce over the weekend at the g twenty summit in japan super stoked wedbush analyst daniel arrives in mid june he said the f c u s in china could reach a trade deal apple could be headed back to a trillion dollar market cap yesterday he said that again while he said the removal of worry leaves apple shares breeder on up as much as twenty five dollars from where they are now which would put the company's market cap back fifty one trillion dollar mark quoting mr eyes with a positive step in the right direction announced between the two countries to not levy additional tariffs while negotiations continue in essence this takes away the biggest risk on the apple story for now in our opinion ige says not perform rating on apple shares his price target on the shares is two hundred thirty five dollars also at the happy be ebay merrill lynch analyst walmsley mohan quoting his note on the trade truce we view this is a positive development which will help apple keep prices on changed and will delay an immediate need the shift manufacturing in supply chain out of china mr mohan has a buy rating on apple shares his price target on the shares is two hundred thirty bucks it was just a couple of weeks ago that we heard talk of apple trying to get manufacturing out of china if that's true the company seems to have picked a sort of surprising place to build upcoming mac pro apple insider says the recently announced super powerful super pricey machine is being built in china quantum computer will handle putting it altogether according to the report the decision likely influenced by quanta distance the other apple suppliers across asia making it possible to achieve lower shipping costs and if components were shipped from the uss analysts have stated that any move apple would make the move production out out of china would take multiple years a couple of things make all this puzzling first decision seems to have been reached before the trade truce and second around de rounding mac pro some say cylindrical some say trash can that mac pro has spent the past six years being built in texas apple has no answer for that second point apple insider says napoles spokesperson and told the wall street journal the new mac pro is designed and engineered in the u s and includes usa made parts apple also state ended at support manufacturing in thirty you as states and spent sixty billion dollars last year with over nine thousand u s suppliers the pieces the workers in texas shouldn't actually be affected that plant was not an apple facility but a partner manufacturer apple insider has former employees is indicating but the plant as pivoted refurbishing ready made computers and as open contracts with hp and other companies so there was a story yesterday picked up by the wall street journal bloomberg that i was gonna completely ignore end gadget one of the many sides to summarize it citing multiple unnamed sources says the peace the report stated that apple chief design officer johnny i was dispirited by tim cook's lack of interest in design especially considering they close synergy he shared with former apple ceo steve jobs at the same time i was coming in apple's offices much less often then before for strengthening the cohesion central the product development the wall street journal stayed at the piece goes on to say much like many apple fans i was supposedly frustrated by the change and company culture from the one established by he and jobs where design ruled he was not only disappointed by the fact the tim cook showed little interest in the product development process but also the apples board was increasingly filled with directors that had no experience in apple's business and he only came to be off as a couple of times a week any move meetings to san francisco the city in which he lives a secret source told the wall street journal the teen craved being around them he's engaging and him being around less was disappointing we were there we don't know for those reasons among others this is all stuff that i was going to ignore or but tim cook could not ignore it which i guess means we can either apple ceo sudden emailed the nbc reporter dylan byers on monday apparently responding to a request for comment buyers posted a screen shot of the email twitter which was picked up by business insider hind dylan said the email hope you are well the story is absurd a lot of the reporting and certainly the conclusions just don't match with reality at a base level it shows a lack of understanding about how the design team works and how apple works it distorts relationships decisions end advanced to the point that we just don't recognize the company it claims to describe the design team is phenomenally talented email continues as johnny has said they're stronger than ever and i have complete confidence says they will thrive under jeff evans and allen's leadership we know the truth and we know the incredible things they're capable of doing the projects they're working on will blow you away best tim sent from my i found a part he wants to puzzle over why this is important then i remember i didn't think it was so why would cook maybe he's just bothered by people who don't know thing they do assuming his telling of things is accurate or maybe he thinks people who were hanging a lot on apple's assertion that i will continue working on apple stuff through his new firm it scott old but the stuff of tabloids you know tabloids were less about actors and more about captains of industry another analyst is weighed in on johnny iv's announced departure actually you bs analyst timothy are curie has weighed in on both i leaving an the promotion of sub econ to senior vp of operations philip elmer do it's apples three dot au added are curious note the round up of ice going away or curie writes his departure certainly highlights the pivot and the narrative towards services so product development remains important for apple with a knife own form factor change critical to drive future upgrades tales fans and his departure creates some risk but at the same time rights are curie the product design group is buried deep end talented in our view as but the rise of sub econ are curious seems to win draw some conclusions from that about ceo succession plans he does however find himself on able to do so are curious gotta buy rating on apple shares his twelve month price target on the shares is two hundred twenty five dollars more news in a moment but first a word from squarespace your place online what do you want your place to be promotion burn existing business a place the sell stuff maybe you just have a hobby you wanna share with others squarespace is up for all that and more i've heard from all sorts of people with all sorts of sites over the years from blogs to stores the portfolios up all kinds of stuff each one of those people loved how their site looked how easy it was to build end the various extras they come with every squarespace site to host a 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apple projected publishers would get ten times the revenue they made from texture at the end of apple news plus first year it's one twentieth here's what they said the exact said it isn't coming through because it's been a year well almost a year actually no it's been whether it's been very little time i've been an apple news plus subscriber since day one and the beef fair some of the complaints mentioned in the piece seem spot on me macrumors says apple reportedly acknowledge during meetings at apple news users are confused about the difference difference between free articles and paid news content that said the piece points out that it's early days for the service side figures apple is likely looking this week apple news plus they make it more user user and publisher friendly think apple tv plus is going to have to few shows you may be right but they'll be quality shows according to eddie the stuff apple insider had apple software and services bp eddy cue speaking at the times of london last week the pew says apple is working on creating v best content rather than creating the most q told the times he nevertheless acknowledge that netflix has succeeded with a nonstop flow of new content such the viewers even complained about the barrage making it hard to choose their motto is to create a lot of content so there's always something for you to watch and it's working really well said the stuff he went on to say there's nothing wrong with that model but it's not our model while ipod may have helped killed radio you siri may try bringing it back i'm more says apple is beginning to roll out support her radio stations accessible by a series search these would work on i phone ipod and home pod according to the report i'm not sure if that means they won't work on ipod touch and apple tv or if i'm more just didn't mention those venues the peace says the radio stations will be sores through i heart radio radio dot com and tune in apple promises access to over one hundred thousand radio stations when the services in full swing some already showing up through siri andy i o s thirteen beta according to the report as it has been the past few years apple marched in san francisco's pride parade on sunday macrumors says apple employees appeared in the parade with a large sign that showcased rainbow version of the apple logo wrapping the company where apple ceo tim cook senior vp of retail plus people deirdre o'brien and a bunch of apple employees and finally today congratulations to samsung electronics ceo dj co so he wednesay understatement of the week award speaking of the fiasco the was the galaxy fold tech crunch head coach saying it was embarrassing he also says they're still working on a macro ask ken brought to you by me and sponsored by squarespace get ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain with coupon code moco west ken at squarespace dot com slash meko west ken this show is also supported by people like you patrons through 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Morning Brief for Tuesday, May 14th
"Join the Wall Street Journal may twentieth. Through the twenty third in New York City for the future of everything festival here from over seventy five renounce, speakers and visionaries touch taste and interact with the products that are redefining tomorrow to learn more and buy tickets. Visit our website at F O E festival dot Debbie J dot com. Twenty percent off with code podcast. I'm Anne Marie for totally in the newsroom at the Wall Street Journal, a jury has awarded a California couple who blamed Bayer's roundup weed killer for causing their cancer more than two billion dollars. It's the third defeat for the company, which is facing thousands of lawsuits. Over roundup Baier has appealed the first verdict reached in August and has said it will appeal. The second investors are bracing. For more volatility this week after US stocks started off with a slide amid continued trade tensions between the US and China. China is planning to slap tariffs on sixty billion dollars worth of US goods beginning in June. Meanwhile, President Trump is planning to meet with Chinese president Xi Jinping in Japan at the upcoming g twenty summit. Actress Felicity Huffman pleaded guilty to conspiring to cheat on her daughters SAT and a wide ranging college admissions cheating scandal prosecutors said they'll recommend she'd be sentenced to four months and pay a fine of twenty thousand dollars. Nearly a dozen other people are expected to plead guilty to felony charges related to the scandal. In the next two weeks, Tuesday's economic calendar brings April import and export prices plus retailer. Ralph Lauren reports earnings ahead of Macy's and target later this week for more details and to wsJcom or the WSJ app.
Midday News Brief for Thursday, February 20th
"For those fortunate enough to help the person who has always been there hero. Find The care guides you need to help at AARP dot org slash caregiving brought to you by AARP and the Ad Council. I'm Jay whalen and the newsroom of the Wall Street Journal in New York Roger Stone. A longtime friend and advisor to president trump was sentenced to forty months in prison. He was convicted last year on charges of lying to Congress along with obstruction and witness tampering in connection with the investigation of Russian interference. In the two thousand sixteen election. The sentencing comes after a tumultuous two weeks in which the trial team withdrew and the president repeatedly criticized the case. The Dow Jones industrials fell more than two hundred and fifty points in midday trading on over concerns about the containment of the corona virus outbreak and its potential economic impact. This week China stepped up efforts to limit the economic fallout of the epidemic by lowering both short and long-term lending rates meanwhile Japanese officials defended their handling of cruise ship virus victims after the first two passenger deaths aboard the Diamond Princess reported as a Thursday. Six hundred and thirty four passengers and crew members were diagnosed with the virus set of about three thousand tested separately. South Korea and Iran reported their first deaths from the corona virus and Morgan Stanley is buying online trading brokerage e trade financial. The thirteen billion dollar deal is the biggest takeover by a big US bank since the two thousand eight financial crisis. Morgan Stanley will eat trades. Five million retail customers as well as it's three hundred sixty billion dollars in assets and an online banquets she posits that can be funneled into loans the acquisition also stakes. Morgan Stanley's future on managing money for people with less complicated financial lives. We've more details on these stories and other news of the day at wsj.com and the WSJ APP.
Monitor Show 15:00 07-21-2020 15:00
"Economic is doomed grooms out there financed you see this as a technical corrections investment. What are you looking at to give you some sort of compass through this period Bloomberg surveillance podcast lots and lots of talk about what the Fed should and shouldn't do. Tom, Keene, Jonathan Ferrell Lisa Abramowicz and the names that shape the world's markets in speak with professors. Show her of Yale University Bloomberg surveillance. Listen today at Bloomberg Dot, com, the Bloomberg business, or subscribe on Apple podcasts. And Joel Capital of the World Twenty four hours a day at Bloomberg dot com on the Bloomberg business APP and Bloomberg quick. This is Bloomberg radio. Bloomberg World Headquarters I'm Charlie Pellett. We move into the final trading on this Tuesday July twenty first. We've got the Dow Higher. The S&P Higher Nasdaq has been swinging between gains and losses right now looking at a loss for Nasdaq down fourteen points down by about one tenth of one percent, but the SNP up twenty higher by six tenths Dow industrials, surging two hundred eighty four points. Points for the Dow that represents a gain right now just about one percent, so stocks are trading mixed right now. Some of the stories that we're following for include the fact that corporate earnings and positive vaccine news boosting sentiment that has power that eight percent rally since June twenty-sixth on the euro is risen to the strongest versus the dollar since two thousand nineteen after EU leaders clench. Deal those leaders agreed on an unprecedented stimulus package worth seven hundred fifty billion euros about eight hundred sixty billion dollars to pull their economies out of the worst recession memory, and tighten the financial bonds holding their twenty seven nations together the.
Why the Small-Business Stimulus Loans Don't Work for All
"There's enough uncertainty to go around right now. Net sweet reduces it by giving you visibility and control at next week by Oracle. We give you a full picture of your business in real time. Receive Your Free Guide right now at net sweet dot com slash Wall Street. That's nuts dot com slash Wall Street. Here's your money briefing for Friday may first I'm JR Waylon for the Wall Street Journal. The six hundred sixty billion dollar paycheck protection program is meant to help. Small businesses stay afloat during the corona virus pandemic and it's helped a lot of them pay the bills and keep workers on staff but some business owners in larger cities are worried that even with alone only being able to allocate a relatively small part of the money for non payroll expenses could put them in a bind. This is a very frustrating situation for a lot of businesses particularly if they are already closed and have laid off employees for these companies if they want to qualify for grants. They're going to have to bring back walkers. Even when their businesses closed that's Wall Street Journal reporter Yuka High Ashi coming up. She'll explain more about those restrictions including how they got into the program in the first place. There's enough uncertainty to go around right now. Net sweet produces it by giving you visibility and control net. Suite by Oracle is the world's number one cloud business system so you have clear visibility and total control of your business with net. Sweet we give you financials cash flow payroll inventory and more all in one place. Join over twenty thousand companies. Trust net sweet to stay in control. Receive Your Free Guide managing business uncertainty and schedule your free product tour right now at net sweet dot com slash Wall Street next week dot com slash Wall Street Many small business owners in big cities who've taken out loans through the paycheck protection program or P P P find themselves in a tough spot. They can pay workers and avoid layoffs but they may not have the money they need to pay for. Rent and Utilities Wall Street Journal reporter Yuka High. She is here to explain. Why so Yuka? How does the allocation of funds for small businesses contribute to this problem? The program requires businesses to spend at least seventy five percent of the funds on payroll to keep workers employed or rehire workers. If they have already let go their and that leaves only twenty five percent to cover other essential expenses including rent and utility payments and for businesses that are located in big expensive cities. New York is the prime example of that that twenty five percent in many cases is not enough to cover their rent and other costs. Is that enough of a hurdle for some small businesses to have to walk away from the loan opportunity. This is a very very frustrating situation for a lot of businesses particularly if they are already closed and have laid off employees for these companies. If they want to qualify for grants. They're going to have to bring back walkers even when their businesses are closed and at the same time they have these rent bills utility bills piling up they would rather spend the money to cover these expenses in order to survive treasury secretary. Steven MNUCHIN has said the intent of the loans was to encourage hiring an employee retention but not pay all businesses overhead. How's that going over with business? Owners you spoke with using this program to maintain employment keep people employed was the primary goal when Congress set up this program but when I believe when they were designing the program they were not envisioning a crisis that would last for such a long time so while businesses awaiting for money to arrive they are quickly running out of funds so now they are desperately hoping to use whatever money they can get in terms of government assistance In order to pay their bills but didn't the small business administration have major influence on this cap for non payroll expenses being in the bill. It certainly did. After Congress passed the legislation to set up this program the administration officials from the Treasury Department and the Small Business Administration put together a package that includes all the details on how this program is run and when those details announced Several days later they included this cap on non payroll expenses which surprised a lot of people. Some small business owners have said that working with their bank. Maybe it wasn't always easy but it might have been the key for them to secure a loan on another one of our podcasts secrets of wealthy women the guest on the latest episode. Was Kate Luzia. She's the founder of a female focus. Workspace in New York City called Luminary and she talked about how she was able to leverage her relationship with her bank even before the loan package was passed. This is Kate. I called our banker and said okay. Are you doing this if this goes through? Will you be approved lender? I understand I also understood how difficult it has been in the past two historically get a a small business loan so I knew the documentation that they would be looking for. What would be required so i? I do believe that my background I had had a bit of a a leg up because I knew what they would look for. I also immediately called. Our accountant said What are we gonNA need here and you know even before we knew that it was going to be passed so I think being prepared very early on really help. Yuka. Have you heard from small business? Owners that working with their bank was a challenge so businesses that have had a close relationship with banks and banks happened to be the ones that are willing to help small businesses in this case they tend to have had easier access to funds. Remember that under this program so many small businesses I think millions of them are still waiting to get their funds and a big reason for that is some banks have so many up applicants that it's taking them a long time to get to a lot of customers now of payroll and non payroll costs were given equal weight in the loans package. How would that drive up the costs? If we were to have a program that would cover both payroll costs and non payroll costs like rent expenses. That would probably double the size of the fund. The current program right now is six hundred sixty billion dollars. So W if that is one point three trillion dollars. It's a huge amount of money. Alright that's Wall Street Journal reporter Yuka Hierachy Yuka. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. And that's your money briefing. Im Jr Waylon for the Wall Street Journal.
Quid Pro WOAH
"It's Friday October eighteen there's a quid and there's a quo we start here the president's top aide says that thing we did I well we did it. Funding will not flow unless the investigation into into the Democrats server as well we do we do that all the time Cheddar garage studio and other innovative models check them out at Tuff shed dot com to hold military aid hostage we yesterday the president's Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney seemed to admit in public the very thing the president had chip they are covered under the Americans with disabilities act the rule she learned that a lot of women don't know exist from ABC News this is start here who directed the office of Management Budget to withhold aid to Ukraine so he's a central figure in all this we have not been able to ask him questions until yesterday defended the president in text messages to other diplomats he was going to tell Congress behind closed doors something they continue to hear from others that Rudy Giuliani was the true point me milking top shed has been around for over four decades and has installed over one million buildings complement your home with the denied it all started with a question that from our chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl was in the front row of this briefing so Jonathan can you just walk me through this ornate never has been still isn't doesn't spend money overseas and he was concerned about corruption and yes did he bring up the corruption related to the DNC server this was jaw-dropping we'll keep in mind we have not heard from acting chief of Staff Mulvaney since this story really blew up and remember he was the one who the president directed Sunland to talk to Julianne and together with Sawn Lynn and others they were directed by the president to push Ukraine to announce investigate absolutely yes he did no question about that so I jumped on that and say wait a minute are you saying man for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that he it was on the to withhold Tori ceasefire only problem is the Kurds were part of the discussion so what happens now and she was fired for taking too much time off work even though the reason was postpartum depression when the day began yesterday we thought this was the biggest headline we were going to here in the house they continue their impeachment hearings today and the key witness today a handpicked ambassador time with foreign policy he was abundantly clear get over it there's going to be political influence in foreign policy and I was frankly surprised five president trump remember Gordon Sunland is the US ambassador to the European Union yet for some reason he did a ton of work with Ukraine which is not part of the EU and while he nations he wanted and that's important but it still left big questions were these investigations just the whim of the president and he wanted to happen so badly that he was he went through a series of he's the president doesn't like foreign aid he said that the president was concerned that the Europeans weren't putting in doing their part hasn't trump is not a big fan of expose classified information it's a conspiracy theory that as far as I know has no evidence whatsoever has been widely debunked including funding to Ukraine the look back to what happened in two thousand sixteen certainly was was part of the things that he was worried about corruption with that nation and he acknowledged it was not getting onto the business at hand understands but a fairly slow news week so thought we didn't use a couple of things I owned I asked him what really is the central question which is yeah which which ultimately then flowed and that's when I I just wanted to be abundantly clear here Brad I I said what you are saying as a quid pro quo appeared in that rathbone transcript member two things here there's this conspiracy theory that the Democrats somehow hacked themselves and this it is funding will not flow in less the investigation into the into the Democratic server happened as well we we do we do that all the later Mulvaney had put out a statement that was an effort to walk it all back but not by saying he misspoke but by saying that his words were a personal thing to the president right so so that'll happen what midday that happened midday and by the end of the day several hours people close to the president but it was that the the Mulvaney said the president raised investigating that not investigating Joe Biden is still big deal though because it sounds like instigation to other reporters in the room three factors again I was I was involved with the The process by which the money was held up temporarily three issues for that an on our foreign policy there so the opening statement sunlen provide us made public establishes that we Giuliani was Keith Ukraine policy in that President's legal team outside legal counsel put out a statement terse statement saying that they had nothing to do with Mulvaney press briefing which I thought was interest words that have been out that affirmative to see where somehow misconstrued this was not a momentary confusion I mean he repeated this idea of hinging this on rainiest company setup illegal server destroyed evidence deleted and acid wash thirty three thousand emails legitimate by the way one other interesting thing here Brad is the Malvinas statement that came at the end of the day came after the thank you thanks Brad and there were other headlines out of the White House yesterday you had the g seven summit award to the President's own resort but those the corruption in the country whether or not other countries participating the support of Ukraine and whether or not they were cooperating in an ongoing investigation with our department of Justice that's completely investigating Ukraine which means this guy that just resigned he someone congress now really wants as a witness all street journal before he could get any of that going president trump told him check in with Rudy Giuliani and Perry says Giuliani was the one pushing this idea of Donte was a clear John because the thing everyone's been talking about is whether the president was pressuring Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden but you are asking mulvaney about a different thing one headline in particular I just want to draw your attention to because I swear this all comes back to Ukraine told me at the end of the year he'd like to go he's got cranium President's inauguration he was on the American delegation and he really wanted to create the strong relationship between these new presidents but just this week he told the wall I mean because a lot of them had there is overseas on Syria in fact yesterday morning some senators got classified briefing from Defense Secretary Mark Esper- when they left a it is doing something else the president's Energy Secretary Rick Perry yesterday told the President he's GonNa Resign and people resigned from government all the time but Rick Perry was a crucial link between the president and Ukraine Perry who has been described by colleagues as one of the three Amigos on US policy in Ukraine Perry attended the the today the United States and Turkey have agreed to a ceasefire in Syria Turkey he said had agreed to stop firing on the Kurds for five days why was aid to Ukraine withheld can you explain to us now definitively why why was funding with steel the second one I and trump and the strong relationship between President Air to one and Turkey and the United States of America James Longman who's been covering this conflict in Syria he's actually right across the border in Iraq right now and James First question is because we're dealing with so many letters so many acronyms says what are the rules of the ceasefire than what was the announcement well the agreement goes that the Turkish authorities Turkish Ministry will stop shortly afterwards Mike Pence and secretary of State Mike Pompeo appeared at the US embassy for an announcement on proud to report thanks to the strong leadership of president as I heard is that the president was happy to see Mulvaney was out there you know fighting back on his behalf are just a huge moment with Jonathan Karl prompting this really revealing answer Y P G I'm hearing about what what is that they are the Kurds in Syria that's the Kurdish fighting force in Syria and they are part of the SD a ceasefire and crucially it was only between the United States and Turkey those SDS fighters they weren't part of this conversation the F. The Syrian Defence Forces and that's much bigger group of Arabs and Kurds who fought alongside the United States against Isis and that is the group the SDF which is Russian into northern Syria for five days one hundred twenty hours we think the agreement today I ends the violence which is what president trump sent us thing because I I've never heard of outside lawyer saying they don't have anything do with the press preview we nobody would think they would you know what's the White House surprise frustrated did you get a sense I you know the initial feedback that unto them look like they had just seen a ghost satisfactory to me 'cause as this was happening vice president Mike Pence was meeting with President Erdo on in Turkey a lot of that news to Congress by surprise so Mick Mulvaney just said what she said yes okay I don't know I'd like to know what that means assurance is from them that they'll be moving out when that happens then a longer ceasefire can take place I think it's probably better to call this a pause rather than invades we make a deal that says hey candidate you have to stop killing everyone but North Dakota you have to leave North Dakota's half to leave and Canada do as long as the Syrian Defence Forces move back from the border twenty miles into Syria we have been in contact today and we received repeated there were some conditions in order to allow for the withdrawal of why PG forces from the safe zone for one hundred twenty hours let's go to ABC's foreign is currently in combat with the Turkish ministry okay so when we hear why PG though we should think these are the Kurds that we sort of been working with as part of this broader broader force against I'm clear can I make an analogy and it's telling me if I'm wrong say we were talking about like North Dakota in the US and suddenly the US doesn't have any more troops in North Dakota Canada suddenly leave North Dakota they've got no way to make sure it's going to happen and Donald Trump has been very proud of this fact that he's moving all troops out of Syria for the Kurds it's really great in order to create the twenty mile buffer zone what Mike Pence seems to have done here is give them the twenty mile buffer zone for many many years Turkey in all fairness they've had a legit only for the areas currently being contested so that's a kind of a handful of towns right on the border and they are absolutely not going to move back twenty miles for civilization a great day for civilization but how are they going to enforce this thing I think one of the big criticisms is that the Tux started this incursion but I promise you this five days from now I will just as committed to making sure Turkey is out of Syria as I am today and so I'm sure you've been busy over there the ceasefire is for five days is that enough time can you really see the kind of change that you need in five days I don't know but the fact that the slaughter has stopped as good news mint are we so weakened so inept diplomatically the Turkey forced the hand of the United States of America Turkey but in the long term as well as the Russians the Iranians we will see how that shakes out if they would have a conflict with Turkey here James Longman looking across the border from Iraq into this place with just devastating James I mean just Turkey to stay there now if the Kurds leave like did did borders get redrawn in Syria is my question well I think they're aim is a big problem with it they had terrorists they had a lot of people in there that they couldn't have they've suffered a lot of loss of lives also and they had to have it cleaned out watching 'cause remember the civil war in Syria has been raging for years they've got something like three million refugees who came up into Turkey what they want to do is repopulate this part of Syria with screener questions then zero in qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast accelerate your results with sponsor jobs news old as people who left and a lot of people were saying from the very beginning that that's essentially ethnic cleansing I was gonna say what the US gone now the courage really look to Syria to protect them million casualties thanks so much thanks next up on start here college kids we congress the next so which audience will be tougher for Mark Zuckerberg users can try for free at indeed dot com slash start here that's indeed dot com slash start here terms conditions quality standards apply in your home with Garages Studios and other innovative models all tuff shed buildings come complete with professional installation tough sheds legendary durability for building would the Kurds leave though like do we know if the Kurds actually want to leave with sort of American protection there were they've said clearly that they accept the cease fire but they have said customers no tuff shed for storage buildings that outperformed the competition for decades and more than one million building sold tuff shed offers much more than great sheds compliment Abia clever deal because for his domestic audience Donald Trump can say look I tried in Syria Stop the fighting for five days I think ultimately the Kurds this is a very bad deal these giant tech companies that think they ruled the earth and so this week Zuckerberg's kind of doing this warm up tour he's doing some interviews later probably what a lot of people are looking at this deal and saying to themselves is that the Kurds weren't leave they will then be accused of breaking the terms of this agreement after five days and the talks will then another green light in order to begin its incursion again in the Americans can say well look we tried now. The Kurds aren't leaving so I think politically this into Syria because for that for them is basically giving up their territory that's those North Dakota deciding yeah we'll give the whole state so that is not going to happen I think names but here in the US I mean some Republicans are saying hey this positive step is going to be less bloodshed others even Republicans like Mitt Romney are saying this is still just an embarrassed thesis is going into next week so Zuckerberg is trying to say that facebook is a platform for free speech I'm focused next week congress is going to hear from someone who's been taking a pounding on the political circuit lately Mark Zuckerberg we to stay like am I thinking about this right is that kind of the deal that that's right I think that's right and what's more broad if you just follow that analogy because of the United States is decided artisan rancor is actually happening not because facebook is promoting bad content but because facebook's Ekos monopolization has killed because facebook makes basically all of its money which has sixty billion dollars plus from ads and that money used to go to newspapers and publishers and now it goes on building services that do two things give people a voice and bring people together and he's trying really really hard to balance repopulate this part of Syria with many of the refugees who left across your divisive question what to do with the hundreds of thousands of refugees with the world the one thing that he didn't talk about is is the key factor underlying facebook's power which is advertising money why is advertising money sort of the driver of it heating concerns over who gets to be heard we're at another crossroads we can either continue to stand for free expression Eh and yesterday he went to Georgetown University to give this big speech and you could see Zuckerberg really trying to frame the conversation that you know he's about to have with lawmakers to hiring you don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast that's why you need indeed dot Com post a job in minutes set ups American voters it wasn't to undermine democracy it was just more lucrative for trolls about fake stories that people wanted to click on because ad revenue is good but I mean the cost is simply to so essentially his argument if you wanted to be kind of more optimistic you would say well he's trying to create a vehicle for everyone to understanding it's messy but believing the long journey towards greater progress requires confronting ideas that challenge us or we can decide that says and free online quotes visit us at Tuff shed dot com or call us today at one eight hundred by tough for the best deals on the best buildings good content trusted content it kind of reminds me of this case that you pointed to a while back where where this troll farm was discovered it was pushing fake news and it wasn't too sweet is to a facebook so a lot of the loss of reporters a lot of the loss of local news sorta the gap that is being filled by disinformation by a couple of years they're basically are no more newspapers already. Two thirds of counties in America have no daily newspaper so we effectively have no local journalism and Mark Zuckerberg basically becomes wrongful termination suits are notoriously tough to win because boss is generally have a lot of leeway to fire you that can blame your productivity but they could also blame your work ethic Zurve break laws in the town square facebook itself hasn't put any money into making that content they're just profiting off of other people's work and that's the real crisis that we're dealing with tells you something about how we see certain types of conditions in this country that boss would feel comfortable saying Oh yeah I fired you because you needed all this time off since having that baby ABC's Katie what went facebook just say this is a town square right it's legal to lie in the town square it's legal to be gross in the town square you're not allowed to promote violence burst for the rest of our lives at Matt Stoller the author of Goliath thanks so much thanks debate if you wanted to be more skeptical which I am you would say he's trying to say well this is t- tell me the right way to manipulate people or censor people but the curator of our entire national discourse along probably with Google maybe tectonic maybe a few others oh wow and talk discourse would be quick to fifteen second the status quo what does that mean to you going forward what's the future like yes sure so ad revenue for facebook rose
Fixing the U.S. Relationship With China
"From foreign policy and the Brookings Institution we bring you and now the hard part I'm Jonathan temperament on each episode we examined one vexing problem race its origin and offer a way forward today how to reset the US relationship with China William Dollar Order and more pain is on the way but at a even broader level what we're seeing is China's lowering tariffs on the rest of the KC so there's a lot of different things going on but how would you summarize the overall problem in US China relations today level and areas of competition intensified the downside of the deterioration relationship between the United States and China is that it's costly it's dangerous. Gene areas of cooperation have essentially evaporated channels of communication between Washington and Beijing have largely atrophied below the presidential our guest today is Brian Haas one of the China experts at Brookings So Ryan welcome here's what since two budweiser the markets quickly plummeted following president trump's threat to escalate trade tensions with China ending six hundred twenty three points down reacted to the latest bout of US tariffs by fighting back hiking taxes on sixty billion dollars worth of key American imports thing but at a broader macro level what we're seeing is companies like apple GM Boeing all these companies in their quarterly earnings reports or talking about gotten bad for all sorts of reasons there's trade there's technology diplomacy geopolitics China's aggressive behavior in the South and east China seas dealing with tensions between the United States and China have been dominating headlines for many many months now the relationship between the countries seems worse today what I mean by that is from a cost perspective at a micro level Numerous analyses have suggested that the tariff war between United States and China will cost the average sufficently trump administration raise tariffs on two hundred billion dollars worth of Chinese goods from ten percent to twenty five percent then at any point arguably since Beijing and Washington established official ties all the way back in nine hundred seventy nine the relationship has world and raising tariffs on American companies in once Chinese consumers get the taste of say Canadian lobster or Japanese salmon and moved the United States says the superpower is reclaiming land in the South China Sea we're taking in right now hundreds of billions of dollars we're taking in billions of dollars of I think Jonathan I completely agree with your diagnosis of the relationship I think that the relationship is at the worst spot that it's been at since nineteen seventy nine and I think basically what happened away from the American products they may never go back and so we're locking ourselves into a structural disadvantage in competition with the rest of the world in the second largest economy terrorist you know it sounds good and you can get an applause out of the group when you say we're GONNA slap tariffs on China we're going to go to war with China the reality is for different Beijing that Chinese fixed cost Western companies billions of dollars a year in lost revenue and aren't just we continue our look this morning and what China does not want you no matter how you slice it it's become a very costly exercise for the United States to pursue this sort of all pain no gain approach so you've outlined implicitly Arken household around a thousand dollars this year I don't know about you but I'm not super enthusiastic about having a thousand dollars of my hard earned money taken away because of this tariff war with the United States China trade tensions as placing drag upon their earnings and saw leading companies are being hurt farms throughout the Midwest are foreclosing at a higher rates than they have in the past nation I believe there was in the ballpark of forty six billion dollars of Chinese investment inbound into the United States in twenty eighteen that figure became five billion dollars so in many farmers are suffering as a result workers manufacturers are feeling the pinch valve the mere threat of tariff induced price hikes already cost them too the way that the United States needs China by showing the way that the tensions are hurting United States what are the key ways in which China needs the United States and in the world and just add one more element to the the cost factor we've watched investment from China in the United States fall off a cliff in two thousand sixteen the last year of the Obama administer innovation and tries to become more technologically competitive to work its way through the middle income trap it's still relies upon inputs from the United States to fuel its economic growth and the ways in which is suffering from the current tensions well China for a long time has been export-dependent economy it's less so now than it was in the past I think honey value if those inputs were severed then China would have a much steeper climb in its efforts to become less dependent upon the low cost manufacturing and shift it'd basis Chinese exports to the United States account four somewhere in the ballpark of two three percent of its overall GDP but the reality is that as China climbs the ladder of states able to inflict enough pain upon China to cause them to capitulate to our pressure and in this competition my concern is that we may be misdiagnosed trade were so far it's very hard to tell I mean what we've seen is a steady deceleration economic growth in China but that is continuing on a down slope that preceded control fiscal and monetary policy and they think that their economy and their society is set up to be able to absorb more pain let me ask you about I've seen are relative leverage from China's perspective They have a lot of inherent advantages there. President doesn't face reelection anytime soon be control the media. If it's a comedy too high-tech now Chinese officials statistics are infamously unreliable I know but do you have any numerical sense of the kind of price of Chinese are paying for electoral processes in very targeted geographic ways to influence outcomes to elections and they recognize that president trump despite his his trade war China has been the economic miracle of recent decades but is it running out of steam I think the broader question though is are we the united at that I mean in your view at this point which country is suffering the most from the trade and other tensions I think that perceptions matter a lot in this game and I think the Chinese thing that they have certain inherent advantages so we've talked about how the Chinese view their strengths let me also talk a little bit about how they think about our system they see our system as less willing and less able to tolerate pain they think that they can get inside of our your best efforts on twitter doesn't control monetary policy and has fewer tools at his disposal than Xi Jinping might given his consolidation of power and so my concern is that the trump administration's approach the straight conflict is premised upon a few assumptions that may not be very well founded the first assumption is that the United States can inflict significant pain upon China through the use of tariffs you know that's an assumption that hasn't yet been proven by reality the second is that increase war is telling an almost opposite story and this next round of tariffs that he has on tap to really going to hit the consumer products the shoes close the toys the iphone products so I think for the American consumer the impact of the President Trump's trade wars is actually only going to get worse it yet and then the fourth is that the United States can win this trade war at relatively low cost to itself and that hasn't proven to be the case own will decide to shift supply chains out of China and ideally back the United States we sort of seen episode and anecdotal evidence of that but no systemic shifts at least now one of the things that make falling all this very confusing I'm sure you know this better than most is that it's often very hard to figure out what the trump administer unless dependent on China and therefore to make the United States as a whole less dependent on China what do you think of that and how do you respond to people who nations true objectives are in its trade dispute with China and we know that there are certainly some in the White House who don't want to reset the terms of Trade Uh Donald Trump tweeted this week that the U. S. China trade war is a beautiful thing to watch but key data from the trade sure by the United States will lead to Chinese chelation still we haven't seen that yet the third is that as things get really dicey between the United States and China that's companies strategic order in Asia may be unraveling in front of our eyes right now everywhere you look in the region there are danger how we haven't quite found the scalpel were very comfortable using a sledgehammer and I think that it's not working terribly well but at a broader level I think we need to ask her under construction could become military bases so how worried are you that these trade tensions could spill over and become security issues potentially make that kind of an argument well I guess I I respond in two ways the first is that I acknowledge that there is a certain degree of decoupling that will naturally occur ourselves is the United States going to be in a better position in the future if the United States and China become economically divorced we move into our separate economic and technological spheres as much as they want to lead to a sort of a permanent rupture between the two countries decoupling is the word that people use as a way of forcing US firms to be deep remains an acute flashpoint despite the fact that president trump hasn't raised the issue wasn't in his conversations. Xi Jinping is China continuing to build more Tamie disputes between Japan and South Korea are cause of concern for us because having a cohesive alliance structure sort of is the foundation of American strategy adding to conflict between the two sides allots happening on the security side even though their arts the same volume of headlines now about China Sea Island building or situation media has largely been devoted to the trade issues and so I think that's there are a lot of causes for concern and I actually worry that the on a feature that is disputed with an American ally in this case the Philippines so both of those would be risking a minimum for China but if you look as a result of of this trade dispute as a result of the straight asleep Briley as results of the United States needs to protect inputs into its defense supplies view Thanh things like China's island building between the two countries state says the superpower is reclaiming land in the South China Sea artificial islands most tolerant as papal reminds somewhere in the middle straddling the line between wanting full independence and reunification with Beijing Nick in Asia there is you know a pattern of intense violence a crane as competitors clash in that region lights flashing in North East Asia and North Korea is continuing problems after firing two identified projectiles it is the fourth chance and the question in my mind isn't whether or not there should or shouldn't be decoupling it's whether we're going to do it with a scalpel or a sledge hammer and right now in the forty years since the normalization of relations between United States and China there has not really been a shot fired in anger or a service members life that's been lost where the United States essentially will be competing against all the other advanced economies in the world and China will have dominant role in the rest of the world that's not a word old or a future that I think advantage the United States I'm much more comfortable and much more supportive of continuing to rely upon the advantages that the United States has I am I remain very confidence at the United States can compete favorably with China now let's talk about the security side for Minnesota the geopolitical side we certainly read fewer headlines today about this during the Cold War to use this imperfect analogy the nightmare was very clear right it was global thermonuclear war between the two countries that would wipe out the planet what is the equival clam seven features in the South China Sea if it were to go beyond that it would need either to kick another country off feature that exists or build further afield the situation between India and Pakistan with Kashmir is is also troubling so there's a lot that's going on in the security space in Asia she'll islands there and asserted sovereignty over more and more territory China has sort of hit saturation point and it's island building if it was the yeah it's built it's east China Sea or the situation frankly along China's as there has been in the past it doesn't mean that the situation has mellowed it's just that given the limited bandwidth that the US a century three major wars for five nations to bolster the siding South Korea lines over a quarter million American lives were lost the relationship continues to fall off the rails well to answer that question I guess I would step back a little bit and just think a bit about history between in the immagination to project forward understand how they will manifest themselves and and ricochet around in the decades to come okay rules-based international order and had no desire to alienate the United States or its neighbors and then of course all of that has that neither side wants neither side seeks but neither side can find a way to step back from again we're talking about two proud countries to countries that can see stakeholder and while there was a lot of dispute about what exactly that meant there was a broad sense that China did want into the existing the two thousand eight was the watershed moment I actually I arrived in Beijing I mean by that is that for roughly forty years there was a implicit understanding between United States and China that the United States would take a leading role in Asia those who opened the doors of chinese-american Friendship Chinese leaders talked about a peaceful rise and American leaders talked about helping China become a responsible in particularly between the United States and China even if it doesn't crack the same intensity of headlines and what's your nightmare scenario what's the thing that you worry the most that could come about if you know let's step back and talk about history I want to try and figure out with you how things got as quite as bad as they are today for most recent history of recent decades US China relations really seemed to be improving the trajectory seemed to be a very positive one for a decade relations between the bad so quickly in my view the downturn in the relationship is much deeper than the personalities of the two leaders in an actually preceded both leaders and situates thorny problems including Taiwan within a diplomatic framework so that even as we disagree we have a way of managing our tensions by still WanNa know what worries you the most fallen apart in just a few years in fact so dramatically that it's hard to believe that only a few years ago things were as different as they were what happened how did things get Asia Seoul dropped Tokyo from its third trading partner with just hours after Japan made the same move Taiwan is an issue that is only growing insignificance turn would defer its external ambitions and focused largely on lifting up its own people and what I think is happening is we're going through sort of a painful adjustment process as both countries sort of reset the power dynamics between them and how do you understand that turn in Chinese thinking what happened that made Xi Jinping or whomever it was decide okay we've been biding our time long enough now is the moment where China's starts to assert itself my diagnosis is it would try to deter conflict maintain a stable strategic order and use it strategic way to try to open up markets throughout the region China and and at the same time China's become much more active abroad we see it in the South China Sea where they are literally changing facts on the water overall China's in war in the region in part but not all owes to the fact that it's a certain strategic understanding has developed between the United States and China that has allowed us to view of its role in the world and the China that I confronted when I landed in August eighth two thousand wasn't the China that I have described went bad endgame here well what worries me is that a incidence occurs a life or lives are lost in a spiral sets in added states and the People's Republic of China have been building today we know it is within our grasp to reap enormous rewards from the courage and foresight of those in China don't need to be so cautious about pursuing our ambitions and two we should be a little bit more cautious about listening to America's advice and the deals countries can lose sovereignty and China can gain assets Sri Lanka handover report when it couldn't afford debt payments to a Chinese bank but more is adding to its islands at the rate of at least three and a half acres a day we see it with the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank which is China's first foray into building sadly we see it in this attitude that it's time for the great rejuvenation of China which sounds a little bit like you know making America great again but Chinese China that's a good point on which to pivot to the really hard part of the conversation which is so what do we do about this say you get the opportunity to not just go back into the National Security Council but to become the president's national security adviser me by my instructors it was a country that was going through a transition and I think that the two lessons that they took away from that period which was the global I want to ask you whether you do think there is some merit in trump's chargesheet against the Chinese and that if perhaps his tactics have always first step is a simple one which is to bring down the noise and the relationship as long as the United States and China are became disputes at a high decibel level there's a very does it need to be addressed but the manner by which we are addressing them now is causing clear pain without any diplomats in the American embassy on August eighth two thousand eight eight eight eight which I was told was an auspicious day eight's a lucky number in China and in the year preceding the answer I would say is yes but in other words yes the Chinese are doing things that are challenging to our interests that are problem so in the decade since you know what we watched China has become a bit less responsive to our calls encouragement prodding for them to open up their economy the best he is doing something important for the United States by addressing long term problems in the relationship that somebody needed to tackle national crisis and the Beijing Olympics where China Burns more gold medals than any other country and felt a certain pride itself were number one solves as great powers to countries that are unwilling to be pushed around by the other and so even as we're measuring the problems in the relationship right now I think that we also have to have a bit of had received training at the State Department language shame but also cultural history background and basically what I was told over and over again is that China is a proud country with sort of a modest an international institution president she said the A. I will provide impetus for economic growth in Asia and the rest of the world we see it with the formalization of the bricks. What's your advice on how to start to heal or repair the rift how do you begin the process of learning temperature well to the and we shunt reflexively oppose every action that China takes if for example China takes on greater responsibility for beating back pandemic this can't gain in other words this is a an all cost no benefit exercise up to this point and that's in my mind is sort of the indictment of this administration's approach edgy for decades has been premised upon trying to avoid any country from building a sphere of influence in Asia I think we need to continue to outpace the Chinese and Innovation and technology likelihood that either side will feel comfortable stepping back but look from my balance sheet I think one of the things we need to do is we need to deter China from seeking to challenge or undermine on and now the hard part is NATO frame and how can we fix the transatlantic alliance former assistant secretary of state and Brookings Scholar Victoria Neuland tells us why gene and the decision to place a headquarters Shanghai and we see it in the Belton road initiative a trillion dollar initiative to build activity between China and everyone everywhere around surly sound like a path towards greater harmony between the two sides oh I think that welcoming China to take on a greater role leadership role in the world would be attractive to them Russian our production staff includes Dan Ephron Rob Sachs Maya Gandhi kamilo Ramirez and a Newbie and Emily Horne next week recommit to the fundamentals of NATO namely to protect our security together to protect our values together that's next week on our show thanks for listening to and now the hard part I'm Jonathan Temperament FP's editor in chief our podcast is a collaboration between f. p. and the Brookings I think that we also need to deter China from seeking to establish an exclusive sphere of influence in Asia that would be hugely detrimental to the United States are stressed relationship with China that is you know sort of unvarnished antagonism we limit our ability to address global challenges whether it be climate change or not the liberation pandemic disease the credibility of our alliance commitments this isn't just an Asian interest is global interest for the United States vital interests and Chinese parlance its core interest for us is in Africa is that bad for us I don't think so I think we should welcome that by the same token if China improves infrastructure in parts of the world that's a public good that we Asia still dangerous NATO still important and how to revitalise the alliance I would like to see whoever is elected in two thousand twenty and I think that we need to find ways to compel China to take on a greater share of burden for addressing global challenges so the United States isn't the the Tom Software of last resort for every problem around the world if we do those things I think that we will be just fine but those all sound like more ways of standing up to China they don't as competitive relationship because I think we do ourselves a disservice we self isolate for one thing from all of our other allies and partners around the world who don't want to sign up for a interesting and so I think that there's been a shift in attitudes are taking place and I think a lot of it actually preceded the Xi Jinping Donald Trump Dynamic Ron North Korea all those problems which impact us directly are much harder to address if China's not point in the same direction as a and they and others can benefit from as well so I'm perfectly comfortable talking about the relationship is highly competitive relationship I'm comfortable with thinking about it exclusively Ryan thank you so much for coming on the podcast thank you many thanks to our guest today Ryan Haas one of the China experts at Brookings Jonah has been taken advantage of the United States for many many years I'm not just talking about during the Obama
Episode 209 Iran, China, the Morrison Theocracy and Falou 101
"Suburban eastern australia and environment has overtime evolve some extraordinarily unique groups of humble shopping today we observe have a small try looking to group mc i gather together atop a small mound to watch question and discuss the current events of that city the country and the world at large let's listen keenly and observe this group formerly known as the iron fish and the velvet glove welcome back deal is not this is episode two hundred and honor to be on fist velvet of podcasts cast congratulations you somehow stumbled upon the festival of podcasting the stralia humble opinion so 'em dealers know this isn't australian podcast where we look at news encounter phase changes in after saudi is an civilized nation collapsing or is it going to just be on within upwards you know sort of 'em steven pinker sort of fashion hanging on it as we look at these events of the past couple of weeks really because last week have special guests i wouldn't let me talk about any county inside 'em i am shutout you highest on feast with me as always is scott i i i developed a glove could i get i get i listen to this and that was a really good episode you put on last week and you know is it away with iraq out let me introduce full twelve man it's hard ever on groupings of links and we were not it's a real full it laurie ottawa's gripe though she was excellent she had a really vast knowledge other she was cracking good listen you know it was really very good i've listened to a swat sexless a very articulate absolutely knows what she's talking about mold and she really she hit the nail right on the head anything i disagree disagree with their own is that she said that you wanna increase liam universal basic income by hundred and fifty bucks a week when you're out i can't understand that point of view however i i think that's wrong i think he should just have the same universal basic income regardless of your age getting paid that sort of thing if somebody on the disagreement yeah exactly that was there any disagreement on even prepared to look at the taxation of wealth subtle really wow really turning you you you know this is former liberal party member very conservative ideals and real real conservative about you really coming down i just think that universal basic income makes perfect sense you know it's easy sale you just go sit gina run hot down inside of outlook if you wanna leave you head on your shoulders robert on the steel park at the front guy you better there's so many shots incitement to violence and it's still is also will be there dan i think you also strap manacles a bit not just you know not have a degree degree i mean who do the rich thinker gonna bother to widgets if you can't afford the yes yeah side but it's interesting nori on owes sign that we really wanna come to from a position of it's just a human rot rather than convincing the rich the city why don't the saudi will function but anyway it was really good thanks to joe mentioned judge for mom well job well the same thing last night we want will cut that down the judge who a firm the secular patty had met her he had seen attending as one of the most disgusting things in instead timmy on a trip this will be an interesting guests wanna get in contact contact there and then you gotta deal it's not if you have an interesting person in your life you think might be worthwhile on this podcast then let us know and we'll my email and it's easier then we had a really good punt cast as a result in a very good yeah mold on goes right i also do listen if you're listening to the fis taught normally we jump into the topics a little bit clicking a nice but we're being a little bit self indulgent with their line phenomenal news and stuff scott seeking here is gonna bust in coughing fits every now and again so yeah i've seen sick of hearing in the background doing that just ignore him anna also since we last spoke we had an album now drinks drinks a new student person does good lot of phone was a good crowd of about a dozen in good shape and everyone enjoyed that sign thank you when he came along and will do that again same and we've got a link to the article it says bs stabilizes the saudi in keeps people together you into that new england that i agree with it yeah it was great cheese cheese now oh town randomly animal cheese cheese rock a knicks told me that join us 'em one other thing coming up the movie hiles sites are have heard of it yeah there's some is it coming out of this drive in theater is yeah so it looks at the satanic temple in the wicked tied to as active as well it basically if christian groups doing invocations council meetings nine ceased if they're putting out ten commandments and monuments here's what's the colombian if a if a nice something that that that benefit something like that there are a lot of the devils hate the donkey hidden that sort of thing in all unconvinced we're gonna need some sort of detaining activism in this country to actually change things because the arctic you're a man in well the idea that doesn't like anyone else is gonna do it anyway that movie is gonna be in brisbane from the eleventh of july till sunday the fourteenth and i think a march on the sunday night time session at nine pm cause of just go home but anyway more on that later but that could be interesting guy do right okay fist cab off the rank in terms of topics a window speak about was iran in all i read an article from the brazilian tongs which just got my guy because the person times is from the fairfax who wrote so this is supposedly from the non title now yeah that's true in fairfax is supposed to be the moderate wing of the strategy media yes it's supposed to be out a left wing sort of left wing is maybe a bit of a if a stretch but added the two of them little a career miles differently right wing to be a left wing vision in them just quoting from it he a it's idiotic asaka prime prime minister scott morrison is back donald trump and taking a humble lawn against iran in an escalating dispute over its nuclear program after they use president kind close to launching a retaliatory strike against the country last week is the martians said the federal government with trump would support behind mr trump's if a twin falls to the fourth country to the negotiating titles as experts predict it will breach it's agreed cap on low enriched uranium within dies it's the mark simone is very premise chewed campus the wiser stralia march that the trump administration in the middle east but he's not roulette options in the wake of the attacks on to oil tigers in the gulf of i'm on an iran's decision just shoot down driving in kroft that article is the biggest part of a hassle operate in a long time the big weird said martin said the federal government will throw support hunks of trump's if it's a force the country to to the negotiating titles as experts predict iran will breach it's agreed cap online reached uranium the whole point of history while the historic less mandolin phyllis scott you do not stop in international agreement that was negotiated by prayed says we had an agreement we hadn't agreement and that was after that had negotiated with obama and that sort of thing and then you've got these dickhead donald trump coming any says now on a walk in the worst deal ever under the tear it up and so you're writing is left to do it sits buddy rich you're you're right uranium you know the whole laws there's a there there was a a joint comprehensive plan of action known as the iran nuclear deal and that was between iran the falling feminine members of the year you in security council meeting china france russia united kingdom united states plus germany in european union and basically iran said we wanna join the world economy again you sending inspectors inspect all you like we will agree to these certain restrictions on in rye uranium enrichment says it's clear when not building a bomb any ten linda selling stuff and let us know by fear end everyone agreed in a year ago uss unilaterally just said i'm not happy with draymond canceling out of jail in where reinstating yeah tried block guide of iran in iran has mind times compliance with the agreement even though they uss has completely cancelled in this bullshit article from the brits have been taught ins says as experts predict it will breach it's agreed cap online enriched uranium what people wanna just haven't obviously statement haven't uranian publicly stated the sun well on it and i want that publicly apparently the head but the truth of the matter is at this point in time they still in compliance with agreement not by much it do you ask canceled on this but you're you're crushing the accuracy of the report i drove up because what is suggesting is it lizzy ron but he's got a break it's agreed cap but there's no longer any reason i know is is that not approaching fact well there's no longer any grade cap because the uss cancelled they agreement what it means is the they're about to breach they was they agreed cat the implication of the why raise is dies naughty iranian are breaching you're well i you know international agreement and that's the white race look i'm i'm not trying to defend donald trump i i'm not a big fan of trump is you know but they be the way i see it they are engaged in a non ideological war and communities the uss and uranian so clearly it's it's not just a new economic or or or you know trade sanctions this there's definitely ideological but my point is is there anybody reading the article who had no knowledge of the history of the agreement the usa pulled out on that would rate that guy does nobody iranian of just pull a pulling out of a new green deal yeah very unfair fair to end it said that in the wake of the attacks on to oil tank is in the gulf of my mom as if it is proven that iran was responsible like we don't know do you ain't the japanese today's even cast doubt some they yeah they limit minds and that sort of thing that lady i mean there are a number of hostile actors in the area that could have you know possibly done it we we don't really know who we don't know what we what we do know is that iran indians definitely engaged in a long game of a regional dominance true in what they don't lie to keep them under control they have ewing inspectors 'em well from from the international atomic energy agency in agreement walls i would have regular access to all iranian nuclear facilities on the agreement expose which was something on fifteen you so i think wasn't well whatever the june but during that time you know they know building in volume and i don't have the capacity to build one quickly because they haven't been alantic and so they they international atomic energy agency inspectors spent three three thousand calendar dies to you in iran installing tamper proof seals in collecting so violence camera photos measurement died in documents the analysis so they directa a japanese going obviously plane started that holding on josh and had verify that iran would implementing its nuclear related commitments and so it was a great deal because atlanta will could breathe easy now if there is yes then you nice possibly longer hopefully flee by that time these these these lemon regime would have been toppled internally but we we can't really say and i mean they grip on power is very hot genie's is a hell of a lot longer away then now they're saying that they the whole point of the bomber wins and then the goshi asians ism is because of very close to having a ball so he wasn't then stole some developing that so negotiating with him and he says right you can just hold or fifteen years he's both the world time and even that fifteen years i think he could say hey difference in iran i'm very skeptical i think that regime has got such an iron grip on power they're not gonna give it up for anything and they have an agenda and their agenda is to used to seeing these limit well clearly they are die hard islamist so you're saying well what do you sign i'm saying that i think should play a little bit too sympathetic so they you know what is a murderous tyrannical regime run by islamist so i use silently u s but my the correct decision to cancel agreement now i don't think can sing agreement with the right way to go about it definitely to keep pressure on on what is a charity unite the country but if you're gonna apply pressure and except by military forces and then you need to make deals in stick to them yeah so you won't you know now now why would any recalcitrant country make a deal when you ask will just screw them i have a twelve month that's exactly what the whole point was around the north korean discussions at trump was involved in there a little paper at the ton saying why would anyone volta sunny after some of the uscca great to just gonna walk away from oh i agree i agree with that point however you know we are dealing with the regime's who have no sympathy for our values that's how you know out of loss agree with you a hundred percent but he's arranging lending inspectors in camp reprieve seals camera footage constance violence yeah behind the scenes we have no idea what they were doing and they'll possibly working on plans for building a ball that you know after the fifteen year period elapsed and then it was saying okay gun since then but the whole point of this was that they could not construct a bomb quickly because under the regime couldn't acquire the materials we'll see if the if the deal finished in fifteen e is it wasn't like after fifteen years and one day i could build a bomb the flynn was not in one day but but they wouldn't have the fear is what exactly but at that point even struck and now the deal on whatever sign or whatever yanni hilton is going to your theory would they just again when you need them i i can see that happening well i can't 'cause it's been dealing with trump in the wake of the not a war with iran trump is about to launch of war because it would it would affect his reelecting eight low election process i launched in a tank in any i only changed his moment and we say you can't say i think trump will do it no invasion and then in the tackle the same thing malaysian train but there is dry so i i wouldn't be at all surprised if he does a little strikes in the future not at all surprised but an invasion now can't see that happening at all anything that's are on a marketing thing it's all dry but a you know the previous night robbing a deal district monsour tank and i'm not a fan of trump but i have to say that the way he has pressure china is has some positive aspects why he's brought them to the table just say look you guys cannot keep just you know a having a a government run on government assisted economy that is booming and at the expense of oldie you know they the western democracies stealing their technology at the same time and then you know getting away with it i think trump has brought the chinese back to what position of accountability to some degree and i think that's a good thing for us he he's just damaging you tiny konami he's he's got nine leveraged any just damaging udine economy that may be true but at least he's made the chinese sort sort of think again about this strategy that's a good thing as you know i'm against tyrannies yes the beijing government is absolutely a tyranny not one to be friends and just a little side night when the uscca withdrew from the deal with iran they ain't you enacted in a a blocking statute tonight will fall i view is sanctions on countries trading with iran side by sickly really nice said to their companies a even go in the ron and you know why should you abide by the cycle sanctions and we won't recognize any any you escort penalty might against you if he breached the uss sanctions and that was interesting very interesting which is probably one of the reasons why iran was still sticking to the deal is part of the uss pulling out was to take time with you the five publicly lee announced that they going to breach they agreed limits which is not looking to the do once once the once the contract is breach by want on hodie the contracts are you va i agree sites the second potty name cannot breach it because it's did well like yoga mat take iran yet reaching an agreement that has been terminated because of the breach party you ain't absolutely true remind silk i have publicly announced that as as as the deal is wouldn't you well i'm not saying they they wouldn't i'm just saying in of course i should say that i'm just saying they have to have leveraged well played great in actions the actions speak quite loudly that they are interested in stockpiling filing nuclear material that potentially could be what did you say baseline of regaining tried with the rest of the world try to act like a like a civilized country no no no there's not gonna be doing that that they haven't been doing now that i have hit forty nine agreement wild wild imprisoning in the torturing their own yeah i agree with me i mean we're we're obviously take off a head scarf thrown in prison prison more people head u s or iran probably the u s hey glenn concert rice and that's all the heads of bad figure is it i'm saying okay title in cost rights more people living here we have just a numbers game drivers you know you you mentioned incarceration yes but i am saying they cost right people for crimes cycle crimes unfairly that we think are ridiculous state leading hunters right unfairly denied being homosexual can get you hung will be and i don't mean well hung i mean hung by the neck come to you a dead man blacks short oh come on triple pane like i know they're not against the show if you get a police can then you have to decide well once they out the situation now you're you're you're you're saying saying the usa is just as bad as iran is that what you're saying on incarceration yes i'll come on all in costs rational and absolute numbers but what about the reason that hidden costs of the reasons free incarceration do do americans in cost so right homosexuals design cost right women stock who does he run as right lately the disney ronnie cast right tables i mean like like they don't in america in cost right you just because your skin like trevor i'm sorry that's just well the back now will the statistically the facts would say otherwise wouldn't mind yes statistically your chances of being the cost of greater line but you are not incarcerated for being black trip but he must be clear on this in iran you are incarcerated and killed for being a homosexual sent his point that if you're using sort of a human rights raccoon of iran as the reason for white usa should be out of the cancel a nuclear agreement then you'd have to come into that with clean hands in russia in in what i'm saying well if you're gonna climb human rights recode then you have to decide what the human rights record the party's maybe not saying it's not perfect anywhere like we we all know that yeah but we can still differentiate between a country that cost rights women so not behaving modest late on a country that you know unfairly a in cost rights people from minor crimes and we know the problem in the u s is the criminal justice system unfairly targets people a very very minor crimes in the war on drugs which is a huge social social disaster in the united states and that's largely the problem for so in african americans in the war on drugs they're seen as you know degenerates in drug drug pushes lila by lawrence falls to a fan fan boys if you're a man i just i i think you make a false equivalence trevor far too often the united states and countries where they do not have an elected government which can be voted out iran is one of the state cannot be voted out because they choose the kennedy it's there's lots of democrats on the inside of the republicans count we've added gerrymandering is but that's not really true well the gerrymandering is like what's happening it's a bit like what happened with jebby debbie occupation in queensland yes where it was extremely difficult times how do we still have i a nationalist a national party led government increase tonight but at the line of any mommy wouldn't have held up queensland as as one of the great democracies proceeds will do wasn't perfect but we fixed it through liberal democracy winning and the power of the votes and when you're climbing another regime is into sake and therefore that's why we should be able to attack them you 'em you gotta be careful and saying well we scientific their cells that are going to start in the sound like a social justice come on i mean really cultural relativity cultural relativity surely we get to that shoes soccer is that so it's not hypocrisy shoulder contains no it isn't surely we can make a difference choose the difference between a country imperfect country which runs a liberal democracy where the people actually do get to express their political opinions in countries like iran in china and russia where they have not recognizable democracy whatsoever interesting weekend just a doesn't mean that we can do some black democ no i'm not saying we should should or you know blow them by not by a long shot i'm not saying that you are saying is it the the yanks were brought to walk away from the no i'm not i'm saying that that would ride to to find fault with a regime that is i see all crecy and tyranny will find fault end end in sight is terrible but kind of deal with some to make the world safer yeah i agree with that in the deal with the mascots and the will will stay psa and now it is list i look i don't disagree agree with you that it was a mistake to africa type deal in place entering the feeling that i thought you were not really a better the feeling of getting that you would just using this as an excuse to engage in you know unfair fair criticism of the united states nine i dissolve is trying to sign that a newest should not have cut the deal off andy seemed to indicating the justice odd because they're and they're cheering now i think that means a strategic error on trump's pop ron but i still see iran as a threat to well of course in the best why not find that threat is cut a deal can be verified and that's what the head yeah well let me i look at trump's a loose cannon we all know that yeah he's he's unpredictable and i mean he's you know flooding with kim jong il jungle and makes me wanna vomit i decide i mean that guy is you know if nothing he's he's he's a murderous ruthless dictator who sets nights anybody who looks even like you know sluts right took his he's told the will the valuable lesson kitchen equally bone and you're like high in in cincy hats and and that's why did you seen the news that 'em what's his name what he's a a defense analyst in stride 'em yeah you know what he was saying it's it's dry needs to consider just consider he said acquiring nuclear weapons of its on summary launched purely defensive end he said scrapped the deal with the french philosopher fancy expensive subs and by you know twice as many cheap a normal subs and fit the width potentially fit the defensive nuclear missiles nuclear missile again because he said american may not be there to help us in the future into the medium too distant future america may not be in a position to be our savior again like they were in the mid twentieth century he said we will be extremely vulnerable to i very a a very large and powerful charter and if we want to have the ultimate defense he said submarine launch nuclear armed assault on otherwise got it on my podcast we've hunting to is that it'd be it's a long night is he's nice he's a defense play yeah yeah no i don't remember that when he runs that china is gonna attack strata losing talks whose opinion i think john is gonna attack a strategy did they listen they go back and find and how and how long it goes i'll put it in the show notes while guy but basically what he was saying was it's extremely difficult and dangerous to 'em bringing a bunch of sheep ship and the crossing ization an even the country lock stralia has a will once we get twelve submarines of any let's just let's just assume twelve could suffer 'cause i'm not happy with where we signed up for with cruise all little bit but it's extra if you were in charge of the tree ship styling from china to australia and found the lanes some treats the chances of being lauded by a submarine extremely hard like it's very difficult now ocean surrounding us is unbelievably good defenses mechanisms without a nuclear weapon and he could we could have a fair chance of repelling a chinese attack yes but that that discounts the notion of nuclear blackmail if china if america was no longer el trusted ally in would not help and china's said astrada we are giving you an altar might not seriously seriously if we have no means of loan launching i count a threat and then what do we do we say we give out saint saint john is gonna launch nuclear the negative impact on his trial yeah it could potentially in i'm just saying it is a in the confidence nine one else is gonna respond yes well they say we we will we will now assume control off you'll legislature and if you don't agree we will take out this this this and this with nuclear tactical nuclear weapons what he's gonna do about it in wagon osi if you do that then there's a whole bunch of countries with nuclear weapons on gonna be happy with you and it's it's all along so well we're on whenever i the british be americans the japanese but he wasn't necessarily rely on other countries to help the night without any can't rely on the not helping the style point a holding a gun in each other's hands that's the whole point with this morning enough nuclear weapons in the way you don't need another and some people would say that has i in fact mind time you know the peace between the major power red sox officers book no i don't know santa claus to see a nuclear disaster stan just stream she accident is on sammy italians that we haven't heard anything about that but let's face it nobody's gonna give them up and you made the point about north korea they're not gonna give them up china is no kind of giving in america nobody's ever gonna give them up because now you know so why would we be one of the country's who don't have them in a scenario where we have to defend says look i'm not this is all hypothetical i'm not not saying we should find john just saying slowing what sean on everything should be considered i think that i think sean was become then he had to get past the japanese they'd have to get past that that does have to get past the japanese japanese is off to one flank of china after got past the japanese at all the holy thousand shaughnessy well the japanese flake and get around and take the mound in the south china sea say if the japanese gonna take on the chinese to defend 'em the chinese would say and the headset it in the past they've said you know there was a japanese prime minister some years ago who said japan isn't unsinkable aircraft carrier for they you know japan america alliance japan isn't unsinkable across terry with the words he this guy used and the chinese said oh really you think it's unsinkable do what the such a good look honoring guys in the nuclear conflict with china to defend us hey nice launches could have a bit of a dip japan being stuck with a one of then in the launch with all sorts of faithful like into paley hand on it i mean you just can't say all we don't have the nuclear bomb and end the support of some of that allies shaggy therefore china will be extremely confident that he could launch nuclear bomb at us and and and not have any will retaliate that can never be sure of that you know the point is why do you want australia it's useless if it's completely a righty i did with nuclear waste site you know you dined gallon won't be completely righty i said well you're talking about a nuclear 'em have you been to hiroshima did you go to my knowledge knowledge eaten i have the will to drinking the water they am i right they still drinking the night they not iranian regime of not drinking the water from the local town supply it's usually it's either hiroshima or not sacchi but one of them does not drink water from the local what i'll i'll show older drinking water is is completely imported look because skipped one of them had i 'em at the time of the bomb had cloud cover at the taunting the other one didn't end in one resulted in any in contamination being more a in reached in the soil any other women continental which which one of them's still doesn't drink from the logical way well i'll look into that doesn't interesting comment and so but look people still living in national bumps they were people still living hiroshima and they're doing just fine after having all end that smoke bombs compared to last for an already been hacked nickel bombs are often want smoke bombs you know if you're gonna invite a country you want it in good shape if you know they they physically vice and this is my point it could be just a black my nuclear blackmail what tempus to control our results is what else what other purpose with the well now i think at the time anyone not that well i thought i could hardly but you know might have been negative energy is just yeah i don't think it's hiroshima and nagasaki what do i i haven't been tonight sucky dot com but a round of it in thirty five minutes into this look this is this is long term thinking this is not gonna happen in the next five ten years but you know you just don't know i mean think back a hundred years do could any any of our parents or grandparents having visage dwelled we currently living it's very hard for us to do this like yeah but it's hard for us to to to even mentioned what will mock being another fifty is don't you think fifty is time that that way down into when you think about it seventy years ago is end of the second world war and end product that they first world war ended twenties earlier before it even the excellence dot world wars looks like there was something that happened with monotonous regularity since then because you in we have kept the major palace assad from each other we have yes we have engaged in walls korea vietnam iraq iran regularly quite regularly i have not seen they have not seen the lodge mass kyle a you wear their entire generations but singles in uniform devonte i think that in fifty is time we could have very different looking planet will go be a bunch of peace knicks or we could we could will be very much based peaceful people wait and see what do you think sarah this humanity going to morph into a bunch of them you know pay snakes slauson out here and fifties cuts it happened so the the world is controlled by powerful corporations they're not gonna lay off i need playboy like nope it because it's not good name kidding american armaments manufacturers wouldn't profit from that not from a nuclear war from regular war absolutely but not from a nuclear war so that's a game changing the the the powerful want the same why why let it happen in a science and the one percent in china like they're doing really well the powerful deadly second time only dan not to allow war they don't wanna will decide they're not going to allow it what not gonna stop leverage to the guys they're just gonna sit them they're gonna sit them down in the in the poll up here and say no you have to back down the powerful in late why would you want such a disruptive event as a nuclear war they don't want then that might get mom and if they don't why why just north korea now have nuclear weapons it's cool one nine nine exactly but then i wanna use that just said i wanna use it all the time with the china eight years but have you design i'm ready and willing to press the button at any time and then looking at a strategy in licking their lips and and they might they might think that just making the threat would be that stupid well in the risks for the one percent achieve the right types of stupidity i see there's a case of you know different forms of logic strategic logic i'll tell you what i had no idea we were gonna get onto donated the m i a potential stuff say no but usually audited tono about iran now you're getting when wanting to the fact that the chinese were just licking their lips ready to invite us literally will become nice juicy for columbus last night until much debbie see anymore constand the kitty don't watch it on like i didn't watch it tonight a little much for corners and he should i mean i'm not saying that everything in it was you know should be taken at face value but it was a path you're on and it was about thee what did they call it the coots the clintons regardless of quits false in iran which i i wasn't aware of it but the way translates into jerusalem it's called the jerusalem bring guy then they're in a reason for existing to reach tyke jerusalem from the jews i look why do we have the problem with iran we have in the mind why do we have this theocracy running applies tribalism and religion now boy you must have dick remember him i don't giant monster day yes i know you're gonna put it all in american fluids forever i left wing 'em totally americans felt again lena in iran i'm aware envy you wait and see i had him toppled now where now that wasn't some sort of conspiracy theory fiction like that is historical fact totally accept the end is hate being allowed to run the country like he wanted to we would not have they iran we have to die but let's say you know we're rethink what is being selling previous years but look let's not get getting too old will troubles can be live at the feet of america trevor please don't go down that path the please kenley at least acknowledge that the missed the wearing now is all america's fault now isn't is well we had a reasonable government in place in i didn't like it because it wasn't left wing side in the religious not bags guardian until i agree america american government has made some huge strategic blunders so overly if totally agree with that but that doesn't mean america is the great satan trevor at night when we understand how we got into this predicament look the well developmental guy they come off the well there's a lot more complicated then just america and everybody winnie's cy all let's let's let's try some bombs of these people we might not even vine but let's trying some bombs is not a bad idea and then you have to look in the context of are you having a regime change i'm hoping you yeah well when regime change is being done in the past invariably hasn't looked at will totally agree so the point still look at history and guy will attempt to change in the past when all that successful 'em do we really wanna do another regime change not in the same manner that's why it's worth looking at it because you know look i'm on in favour of tackling regime regime change by educating people by the contest of ideas by hopefully spreading ideas about liberal democracy among the iranian population to the point where they would choose it themselves g will then let them try let some joined the international community let their citizens move freely amongst other countries let tried in goods and move freely end instead of isolating the ms in the island then let the integrate with the willed in who knows what might happen i think the day off pretty well integrated knives the whole point of the trading by gotta iranian if he had eleven points of the training bogut it's not like iranian people have banned from traveling to other countries trivet come on that's just not true cam raleigh if you're listening on sorry in you'll probably bashing hit against the steering wheel you know hit in the budget will move on after i got done by this it's all america's fault bullshit that rarely go to viral online i think i'll let the deal is not my cup of we've had come on fan boys roger you're doing families rolling in and give it to travel yeah give it to his jay soil means next week is now 'em fourth year anniversary well done on thinking we march line have a sizable live thing and and people mafia but adjoining cy why do you listen i keep an eye on the facebook page i've in the next week is trying to sort things out we might do a few taste runs and some of you who have good feelings strong rather was there the nonsense but the twelve manhole it is gonna vote could have a chance if you're outside so a right let's move on double life will say his plan boy that would have gone vision religions division okay m side parliament iceland i mean in a i saw an article from a the described 'em a prime minister scott morrison i've been the parliament with a moving speech the paid respects to his party's traditional ira's he said i'd like to begin by pay my respects to columbia is the traditional ira's of the potty for we understand we acknowledge coal lobbyists past present an emerging and they recognize continuing connection to the lane but did you see the real opening ceremony at least say that was from the shovel well you should watch television our oh i thought you know what happened as they walked in walked in you know they have the people people carrying the mice mine russia's object yeah they was the indigenous boy i think young guy in the mail lena in front of them tapping to sticks together now that isn't virtue signaling i don't know what it is yeah we're gonna have special am originally she's aside in the not too distant future of you're gonna run through only springs design 'em so you'll sign we have a new governor jen yeah and they they what do you call it the induction if they governor general i i'm not sure what the rough weather swearing in the swearing in yes he swore with his hand on what appeared to be impossible very very fat big bible and he used the word so help me god so do we have another godfather as governor of georgia when he needs to be the former head of the of the army is it what his name is jammed an f you have you heard the news about nikki some of his new book yet looks interesting one serie owner the coffee good on you cannot tell you some of what's in it so i've got a clip yeah the from when they full administer described motion is awesome furniture is good on the nikki saw that sounds like a good place of work a side this is a this is from i think sydney morning herald is square off in an email to you so yeah let me play this little quickly and then i'll tell you what it's from like a here we got it goes into these structures the liberal policy am i so this is sorry on ours is now there's some leave a lower tangle might not long talking about the book right nikki's on it goes into these structures of the liberal party in the fact that you've had a lot of a in cities all across or churches czyz things move dean szekely a in victoria a bar which is i think rather unfortunate because they've basically they promised the bike and run policy from the position of being liberal party members rackets not entirely clear that that's gonna happen but also a traditional choice i small ill liberals find themselves a a not able to actually identify with the with the potty he they becoming so cal has a lot of things it covers a not just that aspect of the churches becoming involved but i think the really big question of a our religion has become quite a big factor in history and politics again which way sort of not really dealing raise except you have control of a seat coming up like the religious freedom debate right you know some of the content of the book and it'll be very interesting we really interesting and in fact nikki solvable is climbing the mars and his possibly a lot more religious than people had suspected yeah well yeah he had a prayer before i went into the potty room maintain exact anyways any prideful for the lower those is a liver roger this result yeah yeah i mean this is a big worry he's our minds of people like us dc's release concerning that he has that much five and he really believes the magic golf game into the problem absolutely he does and this is the sort of crap that you expect a heat from the united states it is not hearing astrada yeah there's another podcast somebody's listening into a sudden i am bless you and that's really good you it's mainly don't do it every day i'm gonna play a little bit from that one is well a here we go so if we leave the spill itself behind for a second can we talk a little bit more about the circle of people around scott morrison because of course in this bill does role on he does eventually leapfrog done so who how the papal in sickle at a close tomorrow said yes well he has a he obviously has a circle outside of politics inside the parliament is a small group of people who are close just got mars and make regularly we've seen at the top of the least probably alex hulk from utah wiles stewart robert from queens i had been motion from western australia then they're people like steve ons also from west is stralia lucy weeks her new south wales and big veneman from queens lead and then pull flecha who is a note in the same categories all those but it's certainly a strong supporter and what is it the mines them together is there anything that brings together as a group primarily it's day five they're all committed christians they make regularly as committed christians often in talks office a and christianity and the feis practice is the primary thing that links all of them but there are other other things that lincoln together to oh we're in trouble we are into we are in deep trouble because you know garson has already taken his orders from these driving christian lobby he's gonna pay them back allegedly winning he many election which they had nothing to do if unite eats sorry directed is gone well they didn't win the election the lord jesus so yeah it's absolutely bullshit let's not forget the holy spirit all talking pentecostal or you're how you're it's always go ahead scott not it's absolutely bullshit the seal would be trying to drive this point home with more sun today deliberating victory he one victory gardell a nice have but he one victory and it had nothing do these trending christian movie had nothing to do with these religious freedom known since it it's just sending themselves up to have this religious freedom debate being religious 'em privilege that's all they want the climbing persecution of goes yeah not claiming desiccation but they persecute ghosts and so anyway a all of his advisors a god fearing hot cool christians i i called him superstitious yeah it's really you gotta worry about paul solomon birmingham being only committed yanni out there i used in the cabinet room you know you see he must be sitting there thinking of jesus cross what am i got myself into scientists have recently discovered that ex pat tribe members listing to the musings from both far and wide have been contributing to the groups were being end habitat infrastructure through something called some for as little as one dollar upon cost it really is making a difference and it's been observed to enrich tribe as a ho contributing members experiencing sing measured doberman spikes when new episodes are released an even intimate about persistent smiling while listening that seems to be movement the game if we listen kathleen we may be able to make out the discussion was small well i don't think we can rely on the light a party stand up to these guys on anything so you don't joining the labor party now i would consider it in you know i i i think they're a law schools so well i mean both major parties to me a rubbish at the moment yeah but for different reasons yeah but you really only two choices which one only sign that small unless you leaders to victory 'cause i knew you know secular minded group nine running a small ponies james doesn't have to be small forever they started small in another chance not a wine sorry anyway a if the talk on the tax 'em breaks is anything the guideline than this live opposition is potentially gonna fold on all issues it seems so dear listener the one thing the government went into the election ways was a policy about reducing the tax liable on individuals in the head and sort of three different some sort of fighters if you like of tax breaks and basically increasingly city two point five tax bracket from ninety thousand two hundred and twenty thousand in in in about five years time to increased study out again to people ending up to two hundred thousand psi you would basically have paypal 'em from ninety thousand two hundred thousand on sign marginal tax ride in a m and it looks like well that's totally against live a potty principles that have a flat sort of on progressive tax writing in the budget is not going to be able to handle it because you're giving away something like a hundred and sixty billion dollars of chinese economy that's just about the time you're so he's they argument on ahead laws which was with a couple of different arguments monies that like i the government winning with that policy and they won the election and it's about money and supply therefore the opposition should just let them pass the bill briefing on that one scott on the other great i think the third phase of that should be knocked back i honestly believe the labor party should put up i very big stink about his it may will mean that size one unfazed to market and knocked back box they could always disappointed the government is i we're gonna split the bill if you put the bill weaken have the first one and two guys through the third one count however they apiece but i do pittsburgh in and 'em one argument though ahead was that you should let them have it because that will just totally ruined the budget in the end they accounts of the government will be in a diabolical miss in three years time and then will run pinta victory so let them have their tax breaks the budget will being titles and we'll easily win the next election decide who we live in poverty so that wasn't interesting theory like bike by not letting them have the tax breaks you will almost helping them out because just cronenberg's looking at these cycles surplus predictions gang how the hell am i gonna reach their targets many months silently be hyping the light of baddie knocks back these tax reduction guy runs on hope years yeah because he's got nothing nothing else divisive prediction middle technically it was just interesting ron with a lie the hollywood sign well let them have it in and now totally ruined the whole thing in will getting easily but i don't think that's a valid strategy reeling they stand up some insight not even surat you just kind of his shoulder needle hospitals and schools and shirley principle is important topics to yes so well i think they should i take a principled stand rot until the final moments and then if the cross pinch one giving to the government's pressure then they live in poverty could say only nine he'd be it and then they should go back to the public inside of them if injuries time we discovered the budgets in a hell of a mess in we are reelected did we are going to reverse these tax cuts yes but the the liberal party in three used tom would cite but you gotta support exactly exactly so the problem is somewhat voters that voted for in it's a two minute drive it's a it's a fifteen second grab the the change will happen the labor party line 'cause i voted for him so you can't like like like kind of hampton well then then they gotta they gotta know back the whole patently yeah absolutely which will give birth just fraud and becky's syphilis because you won't be playing out anything he wouldn't be buying anyway professor till it yeah i round 'em he's the least convincing treasurer obscene indika do you guys think about his treasury oh he's very he's very weak i think that's being list and say yeah joe hawke john hook you up with man jokingly terrible there's been some bad ones 'em lane in had somebody decided cool protects along guy let's just see what land in sort of bad text at the corporate level anyway cheryl wasted go help senate this on trying to leave i message for that fits fellow in that velvet glove person what what do you mean she's on lunch she needs to lunch good snake bites stickney i have to pay the only this is why we need corporate tax breaks and then you wanna kind of drinks is los angeles lola's 'em we do that ethics of something before christmas upon has resigned from the palm campaign has joined a young in he's going to work for the defense of instant young i have a defense all they do fans have laws around exactly they no longer distant accounting's him now into everything inside he's working for them this is five minutes softer you just finished up as the defense minister that's describing you say conflict of interest and he needs bloody criminal really isn't really should be criminal yeah but it isn't deal is not a good lincoln the show not to some shots showing how much money the big four accounting systems get from the government in terms of these for the advice in it's enormous sanders just increasing and it's is clearly being hard but innocent young because these contacts within the government his knowledge of the defense department money how they leave the money the money that can be made by these advisers as is that's a and h you should not be allowed for at least three full foggy american five years so now is the word horror on the podcast 'cause i'm in politico hold these people people who jumped from ministerial portfolios into these hot you know lucrative board memberships 'em and our old friend julie yeah julie bishop in you know she's just landed a a cushy job which i am a company that supplies some good i programs ron from foreign minister to a company that supplies volleyed man it's a similar conflict the interest and people leveling this i'm as a christian upon said quite i'm looking forward to providing strategic advised to and it's young age restricted as the thin looks to expand its footprint in the defense defense industry really if that doesn't cy i'm gonna use my special insulted knowledged helping out well it's just criminal just titans from a disgraceful isn't it yeah sorry mom a just in case you'll i've got a little a little chat here's will showing political donations body accounting firms in any income i received from the government today consulting advice i ever a two year period a two thousand sixteen two thousand seventeen 'em lloyd in boston young voters provided six hundred thousand dollars worth of dining options end diver we saved used in income from the government six hundred and seventy five million dollars well it's it's pretty much a notch it's pretty much a thousand dollars for every dollar spent a is hair looks familiar and they must have good accounts and it's a it's a price waterhouse contributed ivory million and received back eight hundred and twenty million in m kpmg contributed i turn sixty seven thousand in received nine hundred ninety i knew in these two year period you should get a jump in scott so i it's like i have been banging on the for a very long time we have got to eliminate the whole thing about destinations two political parties sets from an individual individual should be capped at fifteen hundred dollars yeah and then that way you cannot get away with his notes because that is that's bullshit that you've got six hundred thousand dollars being tended six hundred and forty million dollars oh yeah you just have crazy arise to eliminate hold on i should split somebody like christopher upon consign so i look i conducted you know you have the last three years is defense minister whatever he was you know i didn't do any special five is an instant young and on treated them the signs of autism blah blah blah but the point is when is like i i sort of a regular program of ministers just waltzing into these fans after they finished the thing now you there's a job they said don't treat them wrong because the forms on the board that if you do 'em as you buddy up with him and give him a good time then clearly be a joke for you wouldn't believe it's really it's really criminalising yeah so that's what's happening to sam right time to talk about is phone laugh a healer snuff i mean he's been in the news a lot there's been a lot of tool and of scott's gonna rains have been sexually assaulting a good friend of mine we'll just call him cameron shelly cameron donated money to israel's allows cools vavi icy out camera in front of you he's still a friend ammonia cameron you gino gave money to be icy l y because the ac l of the ones that are trying to stop us accessing legally available voluntary assisted dying the other ones trying distort women getting access to legal abortion services they're the ones that are out there trying to keep the chaplains and that sort of stuff in the schools that they're trying to cape religious instruction in the religious indoctrination in schools and that's why you do not give any money to these trailing christian lami now trend among the told me this evening's ralph allowed is successful in suing ramya stralia could he get accustomed yes so what's gonna happen to that two million bucks these ice seals already collected israel's if he doesn't have to spend any of it you know it's weird you know what theorized is gonna end up in the coffers of seal cameron you have some law restraining christian lobby on reckon fill out saddam season i don't even want his money back to why would he want his money back if you if he doesn't play anything because he loves money is the truth sinus and snoring listen but you know if i want my money back thanks very much left a wet and say yeah i'm gonna tell me the second cohen ties winnings coast and then he'll he'll get the money on sam side so you're mike was offended the guy i found money that guy sanely d platforming basically he said where's it i'm just waiting for me is takes besieged 'em i don't agree with is ralph allow but i will not tolerate nasty d platforming looks like the rest of colorado's grace yeah he's he's taken the morrison line about quad australians and all that sort of known since he is he he's running a tightrope moron hey rizzi acacia loan well is he signed that basically flee 'em like a kite show by should be providing this is just to whatever whoever walks in the door and therefore discriminated insanely again but what about the companies that are are looking at it closely on his father so so so that's when he signed isn't it is that basically guy goes on me should be behind the should be behaving like actual a that die sugarman ideologically driven offering their own set of who's anybody i think that's what he's saying in indiana point well the point is eat the point is they sending that he doesn't he doesn't agree with d platforming which i understand how we have a camera in you do not give money easter island christian multi yes he should have given it to us exactly not be platforming no it's not deep platforming i suppose it's out of this go fund me i mean what is the the reason for go fund me existing is it for anyone to raise money for anything or is it just a bicycle guys guy finally had a specific policy on mid terms and conditions said we will not allow i found which in any why encourages intelligent intolerance of prejudice against any you're going already men very subjective term but the tensions that need to be applied to the facts of any particular case wrong so they had a particular policy that said we will not allow any funding of ico's which carriages prejudice or picking on minorities a is what the same in which women order to secede picked on ideas well now i don't ledgers and a phony kind of and long runs in lines most guys in particular obviously well he wasn't pick pick on guys in particular homosexuality was just one of a list of things that he highlighted that he wasn't picking on guys he wasn't in guy well he was in addition device like come on it wasn't heights but it was a list of sentence and we all know that scene is a bogus comes up so anyway just if i could just give the guy found mean the guy killed argument and life okay because remember we said with the tied show that 'em a kite shell could have said look we all sorts of kennex but we die my wedding tykes main the main the when a guy couple of climbing say we want a wedding i could sign nine but with that all assignment the strike couple of climbing said we want a winning cutting funding but i would sign nine so a business using titled to restrict its service offering however it looks so go fund me using titled to restrict it said is offering however it locks provided it applies that rule uniformly so ugly ugly side if somebody else start at a guy finally picked on jews or picked christians who picked on somebody else's guy finely would be compelled to comply with its and policy say it's a so that's the answer to your friend cameron is that it wasn't a deep platforming it wasn't applying all these rules did it already had provided it does that consistently it's not discrimination oh we own agreement on that were library with you yeah i don't know much about go fund me i've just is it a known no it's a it's a profitable bravo company they got it as a business there is no way to apply their rules uniformly i agree with you in advance to the guy found me situation on radio anyway when you know you can't really believe the v ice ios just gonna hit just taking a dollar and giving bility's raffle out they're gonna take an adult and they're gonna give out of ninety five since there are administrative fees to account scott rock you really studying the consent you know i mean i honestly believe that cameron has given money to be icy l now because even if it's only five percent of it cameron you have helped fund the same organization that won't ask not be allowed to get married is sorry cameron yeah you're hearing the rain is coming on strong ever give money to the icy over any reason even money today seal are a bunch of conservative christians who do not want us to believe free and you know making her own choices in life that one of the old to be like they rolling a nother thought experiment is relatively out and statements one if he had said a free example loudly and proudly the quote this is a she delana high flying on this this is terrible they tied it and they just awful or let's sign nike was a chief sponsor of rugby union and he said the chambal she's like full upon and off on a terrible and i'm like if my sponsors of rugby union australia in is rile fell out my comments like that could he be sanctioned by rugby union is strong yeah what do you think absolutely all who would have thought so imagine him saying it's not not as a thought experiment if somebody decided that if if all speak you have some sort of credibility because the credibility because you just say they should it crosses the shale and i find with something yeah so my point is the for the free speech absolutist at day i'm looking at each twelve man voids yeah in the harris is of the world i am you would have to acknowledge that they thought experiment just provide wisconsin knocking would be an example where somebody speech i realized the football easy enough to cool is a genuine issue with their contract to say speech is capable of invalidating unemployment contract contract and it's just a case of where do you draw the long but it is capable means speech unrelated the foot bowling ability it is possible if guys to something genuinely significant that you unemployment contract so in the fallout kyw's people need understand he had a private a sponsor is giving away two hundred fifty thousand all the year when he might original comments to easy guy that sponsored corrupting for homicide comments inside fell out fully understood an you would expect the rugby union the stralia would lose sponsorship i he's comments cannot take issue with something you just say homophobic comments now i've heard a number of times in news reports on vip's see the news raiders used those words that is ralph allow made homophobic comments i don't i think he did i think he made seemed phobic comments rod no i'm and i'm very serious about the distinction here because he did not single out homosexuality he did not he just listed as one of i standard list of christian scenes for which people would go to hell no that isn't homophobia then involved in his first comments about two years ago he did because on these fbi spied somebody said what what a bad guy and then he said they got a hell shy that was and you start homophobic a i wouldn't classify this homophobic he was just stating that that seeing the cost of that's in is a journey to help her house homophobic a well will soon phobic isn't necessarily showtime here is the only a fear of something i'll grant you that so i wouldn't say he's got a fear of of guys so i'll grant you that nine ociety but i certainly am yeah he basically has been and not only be obviously but probably all the commercial media outlets have been repeating this you know this this line that he has been engaged in cycled hate speech against gay people so i haven't seen any evidence that he has one thing recognizing that keep up the great some nice for guidance on the drunken at saint john's yet handouts as well i'm sparring for me is that a is that they a the guy community is 'em more vulnerable to the sort of thing so yeah the grapes it's water off the ducks back by was in the food our guy people you wouldn't recognize a teenage boys from yeah exactly if you're a guy that's in the western suburbs just sit needed guy who loves rugby and then suddenly he's arnold says you're gonna get a hill in his christian you know we're supposed to say this you have to admit that there are more vulnerable than and certainly gratitude it's easy to imagine the you could find cases of guy teenage boys that cool is a genuine problem for one whereas you wouldn't find it was drunk and or or foreign kind of say look i i recognize there isn't an issue if impressionable young said he said when you say but i think the media is basing it off onto my like let's say when you say well he listed all these other people so it's you know it's it's not a big deal and he listed having sexual will it is a big deal if you know the the most vulnerable does grits anyway my point is that he could foresee the they sponsors would pull their money and if you wanna take the big money then you have to accept extra conditions tom so in other words if you don't have time kept popping sorry anyway there's an article in these dragan is is one of the interesting like a train kelly and she said she's being involving employment license mold and twentyfive years he's with this reunions multiple employees and started several businesses and she climbed ninety unfair dismissal system intimately she founded a specialist business the acted on faily dismissed employees until employers dismissed people failing according to the law 'em in that business she no longer involved with but it went on to become the largest on dismissal business in the country so that sort of credentials which sam pretty good to me and she said that would allow this be an application under the fair wick act which include and research stances would cost about twenty thousand dollars in chases the employee is a according to the act must not dismiss employees unlawfully which is defined as for their rice college sex sexual orientation ige physical or mental disability metals died his family who cares responsibility pregnancy religion political opinion national extraction all sideshow origin any of those groups caught unlawfully were kinda unfairly disagreement she says that into a three is tom and the guys the court the judge will not consider any issues of free speech freedom of religion the judge simply will decide whether they applicant was sacked i because he is a christian in his employed discriminated against because of his religion will be some other raisins and m so she says that the employer can legally dismissed any employee who fouls to comply with the law full unreasonable instruction in these instructions do not have to be in rotting 'em so and she makes the point that there are other christians reminding in the workplace at a rugby on the plainfield so she says in every unlawful dismissal types of ever ron we've being a stuffed like even controversial crews that the dismissal of could for unlawful reason and not for some other reason that fell out is gonna have to prove the only reason he was fact was because he's christian infant no other reason addle and that's gonna be on the science of it impulse really have him to the the size to reading between the lines of what she signed the lease because clearly there are other christians in floyd a it wasn't just because he's christian an employer can give a lawful in in reasonable instruction and when you're a business relies on sponsorship from these groups and get instruction i had gotten a cap on sexual dickhead was rugby a strategy not a little disingenuous i mean they should have said you are being dismissed because you're blown out sponsorships they didn't say that they said you being dismissed because to identify the following a detailed you know you've you've offending people and you've said he breached based on media all see and that's it yeah so 'em so yeah site 'em oh i wanna give just a quick ten points summary of someone allen a nutshell which is you don't hear enough the nuts and bolts so here we are hopefully i can look at even five minutes but 'em deal is not the right the hold a belief is different to the right and manifest unbeliev fell out kind of wish ship and believe as much as he likes italian manifest that leave that belief that manifesting fisting is subject to the laws so when you look at any sort of human rights bill of rights legislation in lowell isi you've got the tuition but when it comes to caring aunt and practicing your religion that subject subject to the laws of the land and other morals and public policy and all sorts of things i you know when it comes to freedom of religion you have an absolute right to believe whatever you wanna believe in your head but you do not have an absolute romantic carry out practices that religion it depends on other laws the now like into plying so religious belief is justin audiology it relies on audio logical content and asi it rang slowing of a m ranks lower the night characteristics so characteristic such as you'll skin color i urge 'em stuff light and then you'll sexual orientation things that are not audio logical we've gotta protect people who had just the white i i absolutely no choice that's more important to protect them against discrimination and people who choose like particularly audiology so ideologies of the criticisms the easiest way to think of that is the migrants section example copy criticized for being a woman that's just genda can be criticized for being neo liberal that's just and audiology 'em fallout is not being sanctioned by the government is not charged with a crime he has freedom of speech chicken side whatever he likes his case is about employment law so as a matter of public policy we don't want employees i'm failing discriminate against people it would be very rare that in a night characteristic could be fairly discriminated against 'em but it is possible in giving example here of genda you might for example advertised first female da da if you would needing i dumped or on sousse for a female sporting team example you could argue look we need a female early in this division and people guy well that's a reasonable discriminates of discrimination but you'd say so that's a discrimination based on night characteristics weeks which is on the face of fail m v a it'd be more likely the ideological differences give rise to 'em a face discrimination so sometimes in nitra the job requires a certain beliefs will conduct an odd giving example before where i could not be head of pay off the catholic church because what i've been doing this podcast and a celebrity anti vacs so couldn't be the head of immunizing clinic like you'd be science and then you can do by steel it's just doesn't work so they're all in i conduct on the ideological level and disqualify from joel solana chose a job with vintage of high income with the disadvantage of conduct requirements so those conduct requirements when necessary for the national title fulltime rugby a so they sort of social media conditions will put on him were reasonable for and astrology and fly but would not be reasonable for somebody unpack run thing like you couldn't side of somebody impact roby we want a monitor and check on your social media camp because it's an unnecessary 'em restriction so the key different say 'em now allows rights need to be distinguished from a guy math teacher at a religious private at school because way assigning rugby astrada you can say this gone because of what he said in the past we've said a religious school should not be out with the sec i a math teacher form you know 'em sign when he's got one of the guy math teacher undermined catholic sort of doctrine about you know you can't be guy in be a good catholic yeah okay the catholic religious schools save a team get back to what you said before you can't discriminate based on what you board is oh i totally agree totally on board but but the point here is i think what the guy math teacher is that you'll did teach and that that is the cool and the essence of what your job is a yeah if that person was applying to be a a the school prince a religious just instruction teacher at a catholic school president then you could cy well you can't be guy in that situation because of the tenants avail feis and your job is to teach religion but when you job is to teach math than a this gets back to what's the essence of the joe what's a reasonable requirement of as part of that job so we cy the math teachers and god knows and k tigers and people like that it's irrelevant to the job in the same sense that it's irrelevant to the pot rugby ply on what this social media account is doing however if he's joe was a religious instruction teach us specifically then it's quite possible it would be relevant of and then we got a so it would go fund me in the sharps again what's the difference guy finally can choose had a structure they business in services also if they set up a policy of refusing cases that support intolerance then i must apply that policy to everyone to be a guy think idealist not the same things you need to know that falling out in a nutshell when you in a discussion about fillet all right there's no just said is addicted not look he's probably quite a decent guy and he's on skin you know what i mean i mean he's else now he's selfish he might my audience now he must never met him but you know he's been brainwashed by this is just nonsense and you can tell he's a selfish gone i it's a bad team is your answer though it is on off a little bit him yeah yeah yeah i got this whole thing you know look at me on security what a joke cool not masturbation hawk like like you know but he's also witnessing part of the christian religion is that if you're really really good christian you tell the world about that's part of it marson doesn't he doesn't love a key level but we know he does it he believes in miracles what's the first thing he said after being reelected and yeah they christian ethos is to witness that's that's what has been witnessing i think he did banging drew its witnessing what that is that's what we're losing is you remember respect the lord's prayer enhancing changed the latest not into temptation what's changed into do not let us fall into temptation of something that peculiar wasn't it yeah now i mentioned in the past that you should get involved in a secular movement because he made some interesting in one of the people in the movement and you exhibit i'd say exactly we met each other physical amid an ex and exhibits say in this on this school would they try to this and he's just a great guy he's he's like the end they tried a census i a voicemail message to the side 'em well it all just by that now a yo on velvet twelve this is state after the last podcast i have the defense pope francis as you noted papa francis has approved a change to the wording of the votes spray instead of saying leads us melting the temptation it will now site do not let us folding just temptation eleven fifty six by drayton for for only english pipe since his english version of the loser father to england so the common folk could understand it the relevant lonnie's not latest who's fallen into enough funding which are trained site that is to not let us fully the temptation science so frank chill and done swayed over is all being done before frank wall i have your attention is being very rude of eating up the answer my latest in the past so this estates right signing from the twelfth century waste to hob size graves robert j e n a at representing a strategy i think now in disciple archery in thing an expert in old english shame liking 'em is in the mix but in old english team phase credentials like twelve sensory which is something that's why i think we suffer his credentials and he said a i have thing involving living history fifties fifties with areas of interest thing the ryan of henry the second from eleven fifty four to eleven ninety nine in twelfth century she making over the last five years i've also been studying early middle english because as the credit goes language is the ride map of a cultural you'll listeners might be interested that old english covers the period up to eleven hundred and middle english is from eleven hundred free to chill saw joseph chesa joseph around fifteen hundred early middle english is the english language just before many pesky french would be established in it 'em and you mentioned badly abby medieval festival and the city's unfolding vigilant boccia on into that in the past and if you haven't thing could dial so that was from criag on the lord's prayer we've got experts in everything from his podcast we do a speaking of experts allison cortez who is only output cuts few weeks guy just hit the media didn't she she realized oh yeah yeah i see what's on the card is 'em interviewed on account of fish she was on nbc evenings with killings divine there's a number of articles in different needs pipe is 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who's rob lowe like syrup back there and seascape come one 'em slammed his so he got a lot of stick but i really like sort of appreciated his honesty and rivalries he knew he wasn't gonna get an easy ron like look i doubt the fact that away from him idle yeah you the guts to to come on in any spiking that suicide and said hey listen if somebody's gonna disagree with this would be great because we will be respectful to them and have an honest conversation and see what happens sunshield 'em since mouse you got somebody in mind in a wreck in a gentleman unless you had some rants you win the division to venice why liberal around it's not not relational the foreign policy or anything like that with me so right but i heard today that venezuelan refugees a now transporting contagious diseases across the border into columbia and other countries because their health system has broken do yeah yeah sat it has completely collapsed because of the corruption and that sort of thing in the country in in in in that sort of provoked trevor's thanks so i'm gonna provoke him i know that because he believes the deer and that sort of thing perfectly reasonable people that you've written among others are making the point is you know that there are a lot of factors apply be on the control of the minutes long and be only control of the great site in america is well next week 'em leaf for is scott like we started this podcast because we wilkinson when we were members of the secular by the time we thought it's a real problem in our society you're not really talking about it i tell you what we scott morrison in what we just thought that tonight with the book that's coming out of the books and the trays and all that he got into a shootout prescient but you know i mean i think size gosh talk about timing combination odds of congratulations to both of you so yeah they say thank you very much paul said we're gonna try maybe do some sort of science book live saying it will depend on more intimate 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