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South Dakota Community Saves Beloved Curbside Cornstalk

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00:28 sec | 5 months ago

South Dakota Community Saves Beloved Curbside Cornstalk

"Good Morning I'm Steve Inskeep from Sioux. Falls. South Dakota comes a kernel of perseverance. That's dad joke because a single stalk of corn sprouted. Curb and busy intersection people were excited until it was found up rooted in the gutter. But Despair Not Sioux falls local heroes came to the rescue moving the fifty-seven street corn into a bucket where they say she's doing well, they've named her Cornelia it's morning edition.

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How Sioux Falls Became a Hot Spot

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17:16 min | 9 months ago

How Sioux Falls Became a Hot Spot

"They before Sioux Falls South Dakota became a cove. Nineteen hotspot before calls started coming in about unsafe working conditions at the local meat processing. Plant Cooper Caraway who leads the regional chapter of the AFL CIO? He was taking other kinds of calls. Calls it looking back feel like a kind of early warning. A lot of workers and Sioux falls are particularly union members are immigrants and refugees And they use our big union hall. Our primary union horns who falls called the Labor Temple and they use the Labor temple as a meeting place. They have weddings. They're they've all kinds of events. They're usually the Labor temple was booked up every single weekend. So the first 'cause we were getting people in a worker after worker after worker coming in and saying hey we were expecting a gathering of one hundred people one hundred and fifty two hundred people. We don't think it's safe. They were cancelling over concerns about the corona virus. This was six weeks ago. I'm hearing calls from my family. They're telling me you know it's it's better to cancel or to postpone. Factory workers had heard from friends and relatives back home. You don't want to get sick with this virus. Yeah it was like wave. The largest union employer in Cooper's region is called Smithfield Foods. Three thousand seven hundred people work at this pork processing plant and it wasn't long before workers started worrying not just about getting infected at the Union Hall. There were worried about getting infected on the job so a lot of the concerns that were flowing were. Hey don't WanNa get our family's sake. We're asking for protection. They just gave us a hair net to where instead of a mask a hairnet to wear over our face. Does this work. Does this hair net that they gave us over our face? Is that going to help us? And unfortunately all the union reps are in a position where they have to tell him like no that hairnet over. Your face is not going to help you. Not just no but like no and now you have to make your decision about whether you go in or not. Yeah you might have heard about this Smithfield plant. How more than fifteen percent of its workforce is tested positive for Kovic how eventually it became the source of the largest cluster of corona virus cases in the country. Seven hundred and counting. The Corona virus says infected hundreds of workers at meat processing plants in five states in counting now meatpacking plants across the country especially in the Mid West or struggling to contain the corona virus. We could see similar outbreaks similar facilities so to Dan. Show if what happened in Sioux falls was kind of early warning. What can cooper caraway's fight for worker safety? Tell you about why the meat industry is uniquely vulnerable right now. Why did his workers feel like they're the ones being led to the slaughter? I'm Mary Harris. You're listening to what next stick with us. Cooper caraway got elected president of the Central Labor Council in Sioux Falls. A couple years back. That's when he started getting to know the Smithfield pork processing plant. You've been there right. Oh Yeah I've been there. The first thing I did after I got elected president was going to tour there and took me a while to be able to get in management. Didn't want the union to be able to give me a tour. What do you think they didn't want you to see? I don't know I didn't pass a background check because I've been I've been arrested on the picket line. Probably half a dozen times or so but I don't know what they were hesitant about but Smithfield has always been pretty private. I'll say they've not wanted to have the doors open to the public much. They've not liked people filming at or near their their location They've just always been pretty private company. And if you ask them they'll probably say oh that's to protect their trademarks and the process from their competitors. They'll give you like the Willy. Wonka explanation you know. They don't want the competing pork producers to see how they're doing things. I love that. The Willy Wonka explanation. So what what did it look like when you went in like? How closely were the workers working with each other? They're very close their shoulder to shoulder. It's very crowded the hallways or narrow. The staircases narrow it takes large plant. You know it's old to architecture. You know plants like the the Smithfield plant are are are the kind of plants that Upton Sinclair was talking about in the jungle. Folks are working shoulder to shoulder the whole time in changing clothes shoulder to shoulder in the locker room. They're eating shoulder to shoulder in the lunchroom. Folks who work and really close together and they're slicing up and processing meat as they do that right. Yes so it's it's a full four production facility so the bottom of the plant the other hogs are coming in and at the at the other end all. The hogs are going out as packaged as packet. Trotta it seems like it would have safety issues even if there wasn't a highly infectious virus floating around yet. There's always been issues. That's why that's why they were very quick to unionize. They unionized in the nineteen thirties. And it's just always been ongoing issues. Before the pandemic the union was filing half a dozen or a dozen grievances every week every week and as calm like what? Oh from from little things to big things accusations of a worker being disciplined without just cause the union ISA file a grievance and get that form of discipline off of their record and and some kind of right of -cation to worker maybe being terminated without just cause then the unions got to go and help get her back to work and receiving back pay to workers working in different positions and not being paid the correct rate and you know the Union having a file a grievance and having to get them back pay in their pay adjusted and things like that. You know you say that. The plant unionized back in the nineteen thirties. And listening to you. It's clear how vulnerable these workers could be. Can you talk a little bit about how the worker population has changed? Since the plant first unionized almost one hundred years ago. Yes so I mean. New in the pont first unionized. It was primarily native born South Dakota's Today. The the workforce is primarily immigrant and refugee. The immigrants are coming from Central South America and Mexico and the refugees are coming from parts of Asia. Parts of Eastern Europe then majority are coming from from the African continent from eastern and western Africa. Yeah I saw this quote that they're eighty plus languages spoken at the plant. Yeah probably eighty languages and maybe two three hundred different dialects and so they were kind of in a unique position to be able to identify. Identify the plant as a potential hotspot because they have friends and family calling them contacting their messaging them in kind of letting them know about the effects of the pandemic and their and their countries it was like the Smithfield workers had scouts. All over the world telling them. Hey this thing is real and it's coming to your community a few weeks ago. Cooper says Smithfield workers started asking management for new workplace policies. They didn't want to close the plant. They wanted to minimize the risk of a covert nineteen outbreak. There if the workers kind of knew that this threat was coming. Why did they keep working at the plant even though they were canceling their events and weddings and things like that partially because they feel as their obligations continue working and secondly they felt that you know if they were to not show up? They would be disciplined for that Smithfield has a very strict attendance policy. A point based system where you know if you go over a certain amount of points you're automatically terminated and so you know the workers never especially at the beginning when they came to us. The concern wasn't hey there's a pandemic I don't WanNa go to work. The concern was hey. The pandemic is series. The plant is vulnerable. Let's talk about some ways that we can prevent the plant from becoming a hotspot. Their concerns were not taken seriously soon enough eventually. All of their requests were implemented by management. But by then. Dozens of folks had already tested positive. Yeah I read. That smithfield offered a five hundred dollar bonus to people who kept showing up to. Yeah so I mean some could say that they did the opposite of what we request. What do you mean by that? Well the things we were requesting temperature checks at the door secondary screening stagger scheduling a social distancing on the assembly line. And things like that. Those things are to act out of an abundance of caution protect workers management. Hurry what we said in response offered a five hundred dollar. So-called responsibility bonus anyone that would show up to us. That's the opposite. That's putting production over over the health and safety of the worker. Do we know when the people who ran smithfield realized that corona virus could be a problem for them? I don't know when the realization happened but I can tell you that it was after about eighty workers had tested positive at the plant that they began acting and began putting some of these stronger workplace protection policies in place. The mayor of Sioux falls wanted Smithfield to go further with their workplace protections by early April. There were more than two hundred. Kovic cases linked to Smithfield were you part of conversations with the Sioux falls mayor and the state to get Smithfield to to shut down. Yeah so the mayor has actually been really responsive and I had been on the phone with the mayor every day every other day. What were those phone calls like? Well in South Dakota it takes the mayor's office several days before they're getting accurate information on positive tests and in the city and where those positive tests are for example for worker at Smithfield test positive at a hospital that hospital let the employer know and then they let the state health department now and then that state health department usually take several days before they record it and then they send it back to the municipality so the mayor's few days removed from when the positive tests actually happens but the union knows it almost immediately so sort of the first conversations. Were mainly the mayor kind of checking up keeping track of the number of positive cases at the plant so the mayor needed you for data collection. That's right yeah. And we're happy to provide that at first the mayor and the Union asked for a temporary shutdown at Smithfield three days. They said close the plant for three days and do a deep clean. Then we can reassess Smithfield said chore so they agreed may be on a Wednesday and then they were gonna be. Shut down on Saturday Sunday and Monday. And then we found out shortly after that from checking in with workers and whatnot. We found out that the pilot wasn't actually GonNa shut down for the next three days. The plant was going to be about sixty to sixty five percent operational. They had told the media they had told the Union they told the mayor's office and the governor's office that they were doing a total shutdown. That must have pissed you off. It did it. Did it. Pissed me off everybody who heard about it and it made him pretty angry. What life why would you? Why would you behave this way? I don't understand. Officials asked the company to extend the shutdown to two weeks while providing full pay and benefits to employees south. Dakota's governor issued the official request on Saturday April eleventh by Sunday Smithfield and announced it would close the Sioux falls plant indefinitely. How long has the plant been closed? Now that's been closed almost a week now. I wonder given all the back and forth to just get the plant to shut down in the first place. What are you hearing from your union members while they're away about this time and how they're feeling there's definitely a level of relief for this particular union members at Smithfield. They WanNa do the right thing. They want to support their family. They WanNa be good workers and go in and do their job. Well they take a lot of pride in that but they also don't WanNa be the ones to to put their friends and family at risk. I read something in the paper. About how big gains in worker rights don't tend to happen without a crisis and it made me think of you because this moment just seems complicated for Labor like I can imagine that for very in demand laborers people like Your Union members. Smithfield where their bosses are making a lot of noise about the fact that the supply chain for meat is going to shudder to a stop. If we don't get these places open again there's power in in being essential in this way but then there are also people where a union won't really be able to help them like the the economy's dropped out and their jobs aren't as quote unquote essential. I I wonder if you think about that. Answer to the power of a union right now. Yeah I I definitely think about it in a few different ways So number one. I think we heap praise on. Ceo's we heap praise on billionaires for being so caught our job creators and but it really exposes who is the most viable in the economic system. Who are the wheels who are the gears of the Economic System? Who's really keeping economy going and running and it's rank and file blue collar regular working class people that are really keeping the whole thing running. There's the saying I think it was Rahm Emanuel who said that don't let a crisis go to waste it. Sounds like that's top of mind for you right now. Making sure that in this crisis people are thinking about how to use it and push ideas forward despite everything that's happening. Yeah most of the time that I've heard that that phrase thrown around and it's been in kind of a cynical way but the way I look at it. Is You know the reason the reason you don't let a crisis go to waste. Because a crisis will always expose weaknesses and vulnerabilities and your system. A crisis will also expose you know show who what what sections of society are vulnerable and things like that and so it gives you an opportunity to strengthen those parts of your system that are we invulnerable and empower those groups of people that are rendered powerless by by one crisis. Or another cooper caraway. I'm so grateful for you joining me. Thank you thank you for. Having me. Cooper caraway is in his third year as President of Sioux falls AFL CIO CDC officials toward the Smithfield plant. Last week South Dakota Governor Christie nome says the written up a report and recommend equipping workers with face shields and personal protective gear when the plant opens back up so far to employees have died from covert nineteen. And that's the show. What next is produced by Mary? Wilson Jason De Leon Daniel Hewitt and Morris Silvers. I Mary Harris. I will catch you back here tomorrow.

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Standing Rock w/ Cody Two Bears

Superman's Not Coming with Erin Brockovich

46:56 min | 3 months ago

Standing Rock w/ Cody Two Bears

"Thank you for listening to this podcast one production. Now, available on Apple podcasts podcast one spotify and anywhere else you get your podcast. So I'm really looking forward to today's guest cody to bears. For as long as anyone can remember, America has been trying to come to terms with questions of race and equality. Much of our focus has been on the African American community and for good reason. However far too often overlooked and forgotten are the people whose ancestors inhabited this majestic land for generations before the first white man set foot on the continent. Today I am talking with my friend, cody to bears and the Standing Rock Sioux. Cody has been at the center of his people's battle against the Dakota pipeline which served their sacred land. So here today, and then there's my pleasure to have cody to bear and to talk his people and share his story. To Cody. Welcome. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you Erin it's it's a pleasure to be a part of your show. Very excited about this discussion and also thinking me also like to thank you for a lot of the work that you have done in year history in your past of protecting water rates in this country in the world it just to bring up a the voice of the voiceless for them to stand up for what's right is very, very important than it falls right in line with their native American heritage and traditions and customs that we still follow today. Well it's it's been my privilege and to have an understanding of. which so much of a cause possibly forgotten about or moved away from or for many reasons thought it was being in fact, protected our land, our water and it hasn't. And so can you give the listeners background please and tell us about your people and and everything that has been happening with you up at standing rock. Yeah. So just to let you know I'm still very young man I'm still thirty five years old of course but. Yeah I've I've learned a lot along the way at the same time I got the privilege and honor to be able to. Serve my people from. Twenty down twenty thirteen to twenty seven in the Standing Rock Sioux Tribal Council So as one of the youngest elected leaders are standing rock, Sioux travel history at that time. So I got to serve four years from community in the crazy part of that whole situation is that. In two, thousand, thirteen, my first year in office we got. President Barack Obama to come standing rock in my community to in cannonball, which were encampments the protests all went down at the northern border of our reservation boundaries. That's the community that I represented for years for my tribe and now what a coincidence off fast forward two years later. Brock Obama had to make a tough decision to try to protect. Our water in our rights and Bustan for indigenous issues while he came previously two years ago to our lands and promised us that he would do what he can to help our people. So what a coincidence that now four years that we definitely hadn't standing rock during that time Since then I've been out of politics outside of twenty seventeen I told myself you know. Like to protest about it, talk about it the environment but you know it's time to start to be about it, and so that's why I started my own initiative on my own nonprofit called indigenised energy, which currently now we have the largest solar farm on standing rock three miles away from the pipeline crossing in north. Dakota which is the largest solar farm in North Dakota to date. So we'd we did remarkable things two years after the pipeline and now the protests. So we're doing what we can try to live by that and. Keep pushing to go hundred percent renewable within reservation boundaries as well. That's amazing in that we have so many things that I wanna ask you. We could probably talk all day. There was a feature certainly in parade magazine about the work that you're doing with the largest solar energy firm in North Dakota and the cannonball community. And that has to feel really good and I love what you said about be about it. I my show Superman is not coming comes from my book. That's getting ready to be really spot superman not coming but about we the people and how we do have to be informed and how we have to be about it I love. What you said and what is your? Hey going from you know the political end to where you are about be about it, which I know you always have been. Do, you think you could get more done in politics I. Think you can get more done outside of that arena. And like I said, I was very fortunate to be in the political system votes four years of being an tribes tribal council, and let me tell you I've learned a lot and I'm blessed to be able to learn represent my people in that time. Since then I realized the bureaucracy of how things in the systematic ways that you know our founding fathers. This country was created on. It always seems like there's a lot of steps that needs to take into kind of get things rolling per se while you know sometimes, this one simple motion could take several months just for it even reached the floor even be discussed or talked about and having so many different types of us in. The political process. So one thing I've learned outside of politics is I've learned that you know moving forward. The direction I wanted to move is I wanted to move into attacking a lot of philanthropy people out there in the world people that really have a good heart that Wanna give a great causes and create a lot of awareness around the issues that we face around us today whether it's renewable energy while it's equal rights, women's rights. Missing and murdered indigenous women I mean there's a lot of issues that we can stand behind out there. Definitely. But I wanted to start my own nonprofit and wanting have learned through nonprofits in the work that we can do there is we're able to do things on the ground today where vice versa not having any political process of. Going to this committee that community bringing it to the floor and having you know the president of the chairman sign off on it. So you know that's one reason why in my heart my heart I felt, I, need to do the work today in for me to be able to do the work today is to start my own non profit be able to do these things now and let me tie it up in North Dakota. You know if you haven't already non where the second biggest oil producing state in the country and knowing. That, we were one of the leading coal states in the country as well. So just some of the types of rules and regulations that they have placed. North. Dakota definitely made it that much more difficult to get something like this done in this state on. So it took a lot of a process, but not only that you know we kinda blazed the trail now for a lot of people in our area to say, Hey, we wanna look at renewable energy. Hey, it is possible to bring renewable energy in this day especially solar in. Slower, very, very proud of our accomplishments that we have created here being in a place where it's pro oil focal. That's amazing and what a trail blazer you are, and again I I. Love this conversation because it it is about you know being out on the ground I think that you see and observe and learn more by being in your community working with the people on teaching them what you. Choose learned because that empowers them. To to also do the same ads. I know we have our politics and again another conversation we can have forever but I really found for me personally because everyone always asks me to get involved I. I like being outside with the people on the ground and finding out what's what's happening to them because oftentimes these communities and then what's best for them And how we can get them to rise up speak up. Such as you have done. Absolutely absolutely. So I definitely want to make sure we get to the Supreme Court decision, but just by way of background to explain your land and how the pipeline were actually came to be. And why that created. Such controversy. Yeah I. Think you know a lot of people. One thing I've learned in what people go to understand. You got an know where you've been before you know where you're going in the future and that's basically. This court case that we're dealing with right that we've been fighting for for now I think approaching five years or so. So. Basically, it all goes back to our original treaty lands on if people were doing the research on our eighteen, eighty six off Fort Laramie treaty, they would see understand that there was actually five states involved in that treaty that gave us sixty million acres of land back then in. Eighteen eighty six on short short while later, Eighteen, seventy seven, which was not too long ago eleven years ago Tom. Eleven, years after that you the President Ulysses grant back then was the president of president that's on the fifty. Dollar Bill. He did this act which was the Indian appropriations. act. which are better known to us as a seller starved act because they. Forced us to give up your land. For Basically Gold Western migration that you know people were moving west to California when gold in this country and When there are moving from east to West what happened was they found goal in our black hills. On. On gold and Black Hills Ulysses s grant executive order to do this Indian Appropriation Act, which took a lot of our lands away from our people from our original Treaty Territory Lance which was agreed to by. Our federal government back in eighteen eighty six. So fast forward in, you know to try to do a fast version of this because a an have limited. But at the same time, you know we before back to those treaties and what the this country just took away from us on allow that pipeline route that you see you know he tried to go at it. A numerous amount of different ways one was the Historical Preservation Act nineteen ninety-three that this country develop and maintained were sacred sites. If you I we once we identify sacred sites that you can't You know mass producer on you any kind of infrastructural projects around those. So this was created in one, thousand, nine, hundred, three. Well, we have what fuel office standing rock was the very first tribe to have a tribal historic preservation office within our tribal boundaries. And establishing that you know with that law back. Then you know we definitely defied all our secrets sites even even without even on beyond our reservation current reservation boundaries. Today we we go through Oughta original treaty territory lands, which fell along the corridor of this pipeline. While, knowing that you know we found over two hundred significant sites along this corridor. Through this pipeline, so we knew that you know. Through this process that we knew that we had the state had to get involved with our tribe and saying that these are significant that they cannot go on this hype line and they have to be routed around the sacred sites. Well, at that time, the state closed its doors didn't follow the law when it came to a historic preservation act. And so that was wrong in itself there. But one thing the access pipeline understood back then was that once you took off a off, the top soil could never ever put that back into into the federal. Register meaning you can have as a monument or a sacred site anymore. So you probably remember on Labor Day weekend at that time when they. Called access pipeline private security unleashed dogs on our people at that time. That was when they came with bulldozers and they start attacking sacred sites bouldering down. On, we kind of had a standout. Then that was kind of Riley process that Keenan don real quick. So the next process that we had to do was, of course the crossing. Of the Missouri River we knew that there had to be permitting processes involved in that, and which is really really good educational piece because even into law today. We were still never ever mentioned in the original EA, which is the environmental assessment we were never mentioned as the tribe has people like we never existed This pipeline was go within the state. Bismarck North Dakota which is a state of the capital city of Non North Dakota is supposed to go through their while they didn't want it. So they put it a half mile north of my community Ray just right above the reservation boundaries there, which is original tree territory land what since the government illegally took a lot of the land from us in a half mile off or. But at the same time what they did was they went through this process called. Nationwide permit twelve, which you might be familiar with. And do a major infrastructural project like this. You know it's the least Kerr meeting process you could do crossing federal waters managed by. Which is saints? He'd been like transmission lines. That's what major infrastructural pipelines crossings follow. The same line has transmission lines goal both the water. You know. So that's the and then we argued that this should not be that way media full Eis, which is environmental impact statement. So we can get our side, our story involved to say, Hey, you know we need to know what all this is going to impact us our wildlife, our land, or possibly drinking water. You know when you will impact statement, Hollis could impact the environment around us. So where you just heard leading up to this point now, they finally awarded that to us. Now you'll ask, but those are the two main areas back. Then when I was serving in tribal council on the only way, we could stop this pipeline. See and it. It amazes me how we there are so many regulations and rules and laws around that. Most of us have no idea what she just shared with us even existed and the hurdles you had to go through to get. To where you are, you know we've all seen what happened in standing rock and frankly and poor, and certainly and all. Of US standing up for what you believed in and how did that feel for you and especially you know because so many joined with you back that had to be. A very good feeling During the most adverse circumstances, not to mention legal challenges and into. The standoff that was happening You personally, how did that feel? Yeah I mean I think it was just you know we never like like a Lotta issues is a lot of native issues, indigenous issues around the world. And we knew we had an uphill battle that we faced. That was coming towards us. US has native Americans we. We have these things called protocols that sings traditional ceremonies that we conduct research our on. Our spiritual leaders and things like that. And just kind of the quick little short story is that we did the same type of protocol when we went through the battle of the little bighorn win our great summation defeated the the US government in battle. On. The war while we go through the sacred at some ceremonies, leading up to these big big issues that we face and we did the same type pro 'cause one, hundred, fifty years ago uptown. Now, when we're facing this issue, we did the same type of ceremonies in within the ceremonies. What they told us was that we need to move forward with peace in prayer and will win and we never quite understood fully what that really meant. We just knew that we had to be very peaceful and prayerful. And we call the world stand with us to need to be peaceful and purple see that time. And that was the most powerful thing that I saw airing. Sue this whole process that we have three hundred and fifty different indigenous tribes. In this country, you know numerous of other indigenous tribes in people around the world have joined us through this effort in the most amazing thing in powerful thing about the standing rock movement was that it remained peaceful in prayer for the whole time and the opposite side, the court access pipeline and their private security and the state in a lot of county sheriff's and people that got. Involved there were the ones being very violent to us. Our people stood their legs stone and in prayer wanting this water this crossing were trying to protect for our future generations and redoing piece away, and till this day we've never hurt one individual and their side, and if I can recall any movement in history, I've never ever seen anything like that. So that was the very most powerful thing that was proud of to see that actually everybody comes together no matter what race you are, what color you are where your Religion, what background what political view you have if you come to get together for the most common purpose, which is clean drinking water I think that. Powerful message that we see that once you stand together, we can accomplish amusing musings. Absolutely and that unity in is incredible. One thing that struck me the US during that time was a photo breath. With the horse and I don't know if you know the person. From your try it was on that course but. It was majestic but what he's faced was All the tanks I, I'll never forget that but there was for me coming through that photo such confidence on principle and being united in protecting that water I'll I'll never forget that. Absolutely and I think a lot of that you know Aaron just comes from. Cultural. History. Who we are as a people I and all the types of things that we live by even today of that sacred knowledge in that sacredness of the environment and Earth animals how? Were connected. So clearly that those are relations like in our languages say Madonna camping which means all our relations in what I mean what we mean by that is that you know anything that has a like a Not He is what we say in our languages spirit. And you know like Water Wu's has a spirit you know like like. Living the atmosphere, we're all related. We're all connected because we all have that feed spirit. So we all have to take care of one another, and that's why we understood the importance of what we were trying to protect at that time. Why do you feel that? So many of us have moved away though I talk about this often and you were right there is I think we have more in common than we want to. Have a conversation about the left starting just water and our land and our air because without this planet and what it provides us, there would be no us. But. There's such a disconnect between. Many of us and our environment and that being united and standing on that principle of the value of the planet that sustains everything that we do and who we are. What are you? What is your opinion about how that disconnect has happened how we can get back to it? Absolutely. Not In order this is basically you know when I went out and did a lot of speaking's in the last five years got the travel the the continent. Well and when I go to places like New York City or Los Angeles, and you know you can probably experience the same thing but I I live in the country I live off the land I live off of you know a lot of land we see land for miles where I live. And just to see a lot of these people go from a to be time sensitive this building to that building this meeting that meeting they don't really get the chance to see what's around him and tell something and where if they have no water are their water look at look at Flint Michigan you know hall how their water was contaminated. They don't really understand the importance of something Intel it really affects them. And I can honestly tell you that a speed indigenous peoples of this land of first. Peoples. been affected since I contact since apparently when the Christopher Columbus bounds land that we were already on in which it continue to honor him today that you know sense I contact we've had issues of protecting that and you know US getting sick a skating diseases and illnesses and you know not clean drinking water and just all these drugs and alcohol and things have come to this world by the Western world that they've created in brought to our people in. Those are the types of things that we've always remember. and. A lot of it comes down to money. You know we look at that as a way of saying, Hey, the more money we make, you know the better life we can live, but at the same time I think we think the total opposite we seeing Damore land and water and Resources Natural Resource Lanson food we can grow that's our resources. That's our land life right there. It's a whole different way of thinking while you know a lot comes with money you know comes with extraction. It comes with tearing up land. It comes building these skyscrapers. So a lot of that comes through the economic status of this Western world with what has taught and these people is that we need to really really really destruct land and the water plants and animals to be able to flourish in all aware. All opposite thinking where you know we have to grow more trees, you know take care of the animals in the water and the land to make sure that we have a future. Soy. Just basically come down to you know education engine kidding yourself. I think what standing rock has topped the world is that how people are using their money in their banks? You know we could be a big Gamer. Erin, not knowing our money that meet put in his precious banks are putting loans with without money too big infrastructure projects, late pipelines, and I think when they do that big divestment movement, standing rocket opened up a lot of people's eyes to say, Hey, where is my money call me or hey when I buy something you know where is this coming from whom I funding you know so it just kind of brings a whole new complex of. I guess stain woke as they say are just more information on educating you stress. What's really really you know destructing this land and earth when we do by certain things in our stores that we don't realize what we're we. Well and you're right it is about information and education and awareness and. This is exactly what I prefer to do in my work as well, and then you know sometimes more often than not most of the time you know politics comes in with this division and. back to our conversation about being united on the same page about the environment I do feel wondering if you feel this way to that were in the window of waking. To this Right now. Absolutely and I. Think in all just to kind of finish up that question is that now is the time to really be more self sufficient than ever in what I mean by that is that we have to start growing their own foods in our backyards. Growing your own food is growing your own art you know stealing or taking. It takes away that much from this attic process that relies on you to the point where you have to go out and outsource all the time we have to continue to use our money to outsource to bring things in. But, our mindset moving forward now is, how can we insourcing source everything? How can we do that within communities and that's what my nonprofit is doing. Indigenous energy is we want to be able to create energy in create sovereignty within our own communities and what best way to do that. Can we do that to accomplish that what type of platform could be set? For the rest of the world to see that, hey, we don't need to rely on outside corporations and we can do this stuff on her own within indigenous cultures and histories in protocols. You know we we have that knowledge of finding our own medicines the years we have the knowledge of what foods to grow in what times of the season's we're in need right? We have. been able to once we take from the land hotter always preserve in give back in what the land needs to renew artery. We have all. That knowledge which I think native Americans have a lot to give but the sad part of it is is like native Americans today. Nobody. You don't see a whole lot of native. Americans. In mainstream media, you know they try to block that out because the war information we can share. On mainstream media or the corporations try to shut us off because that takes that much more money out of their pockets by trying to share who we are and what we can give to the world. Well that's what you said in the beginning just really struck with me and I have it written in front of me right now be about it and how we as individuals take ownership of these things again that. That I don't know if I don't know that we just gave away but it's been a process of decades where things have been eroded and suppressed and not talked about and not taught about in even social media has really opened our eyes to so many things that we didn't know what was going on and so you're right about be about it and and something you said Struck me that I've made a comparison with the planet it I think that. Like an ATM machine you know if you go to the bank and you just keep withdrawing and withdrawing and withdrawing and withdrawing and never giving back meaning a deposit of been surely. There's nothing that will come out of the ATM. 'CAUSE you've taken it all and I feel often that we were so on the cusp of having just taken and taking and taking and taking and taken from the planet. That were in moment where we much. Give back. Absolutely. Pouring teaching native Americans can provide to the Western world and colonized world is. You know a lot of people are now starting to understand that and they are asking questions. You know a lot of our history is being exposed we're starting to understand how this country was founded. It was founded on violence and in not not to say that you know we're against in. China against our country I distinct that we have to all except what has been And then move forward in productive productive way on know who has the resources teach what can we do to protect our environment and not only that you know for future generations because my my goal ever since I was born, my grandma always told me this is that what you do to the Earth, the plant waters, the animals says a lot about who you are as. A lot about that. You know who I am as a person I definitely want. Where my community a lot better off than when I, when I first started on where I was born cements and that's been my goal and I think a lot of people around the world should follow an initiative to say, Hey, I wanna make my community better than when I first left. You're absolutely right and I talk about that as well. I have a program called Ram which is realized that's motivate oneself and when you ask somebody to to accept to you are it's about taking stock not in what you have. Or the car you're driving. Or what your bank account says taking stock in who you are. That character that bravery that occurred. That willingness to to stand up These are things. As your grandmother you. Invaluable. So. You know I the pipeline gets his permit Yank, and now the Supreme Court grants native Americans have of Oklahoma I don't know if everyone is seeing that Supreme Court decision and I know you're very aware of it and. Is. This a turning point. We'll just from knowing a secret was Aaron was in a five four decision to believe. Yes. I. Believe it was yes. Very close and I think it's kind of it is a big step in the right direction, but it also is a threat. To the civilized world. A Western colonization world because if they if we were this kind of opens the door for the leg, even the Great Sioux nation in the Black Hills of course, you've seen president trump to speak on our homelands during the fourth of Lyon. We toll weeded one within our homelands and the sad part of that is you know they had to engulf you know some of the these president Saturday. Sketched out in stolen Iraq within a sacred homelands, we have to live with that every single day on on that that starts stolen land basically and. The government illegally took that from us from our treaties. They should have followed the treaties but what that does do Erin is that opens the door to revisit something like that for a lot of tribes that the government broke their treaties on. So that's kind of interesting that you know this five four decision that happened. Or? Yeah and it was very interesting to a lot of tribes to say, Hey now, maybe we on need to battle this the same way to say, Hey, maybe we can start getting some of our original lands that were taken away from US illegally as well. So that does open the door to a lot. But at the same time, it threatens you know this economic status of way of life of colonization in this country. So you take it as you will. But for Indians native native country, it's it's a blessing because more Orlando. We can win back the more. We can restore those lands to its regenerative state do try to protect and preserve that in the way moving forward so. Very important and I think that's important I. Hope the turning point is as all these. You know it's like the stars collided and all of these issues for decades that have been there but we haven't addressed or they've been concealed or hidden, and there's a whole you know I guess we could blame anybody and everybody for everything is gone on it that doesn't get us anywhere. I hope to turning point is as all of this break. So I feel like it's just a collision at once that we find that unity again and not the division. There has been such hatred in such division I just never thought I'd see it in my lifetime. Getting back to that unity and there is common. Goals for all of us but how we can do it with you know I talk about logic, which is your commonsense leverage joining your community the loyalty thatstitute of nurse is you've exhibited to see your caused through to the end, and then ultimately why all do what we do and it's burn of love and could get back to that collective place for a better world for us all. You know just comes back to a simple point like you say. Is that we're fearful where fearful people of once early the out there in the world end over the years over the decades we'd start everybody starts to put up these walls a lot of times. We don't even know where our neighbors are anymore. We don't talk to them we don't help them. Back in in our cultural ways, Um community based, we always did something for the community every single day help build our communities to where they are when nowadays everybody is so divided in Seoul blocked off that they're protective over one another. And and they're not afraid they're afraid to go out and ask questions or they're afraid to go and experience something there feel uncomfortable with that uncomfortable feeling what we got get away from this WanNa. Give you an example Erin and I don't tell the story to a whole lot of people because. I kind of wanted to write a book about this in the future at some point to Kinda share what I've seen in what types you know the process sudas Horno Dapple in the comments and all these things that I've seen firsthand but there was individual in Meyer on white community just north of the protests here man North Dakota. was just kind of you know. Calling us down every name in the book. Go home you know. Everything interested in why protesting get outta hair you don't. You don't belong here and everything was just against everything that we stood for where protecting our water. So I reached out to this gentleman being being me being the leader of the tribe at. What my community and I invited him I didn't think he was gonNA come but I invited him to the canvas. And I didn't think he was gonNA come in here. He decided to come to see exactly what we were doing none because the media would portrayed has we're doing something illegal you know where worrying lease and all these things. I never was the case you know all these bad things and so I brought us individual down is older gentleman it must have been in his sixty s late sixty s seventy S. and. I brought him to the encampments and once he seen the spirit of the people like how people actually wasn't sold divided anymore we all live together. We all lived off of each other. We all lived in harmony. We all got along we all shared stories and he fell in love with that. And I don't tell story to a whole lot of people because you know it's difficult thing where where I live, you know like the down south, it's always the blacks whites but people don't understand in the northern part of our country. It's it's Indians and cowboys. I mean literally. A lot history of you're right. So but just from what I. Saw there told me that you know what all it really is. Is that people are afraid because they don't really know are experiencing or they don't want to they don't want to be opening so we can just be open and honest with ourselves to be more accepting even though we agree to disagree. If we can candidate level of saying, Hey, you know I'll show you my culture. You Show Me Yours in. Airing I think that will bring more people together and make them truly understand that we are in this together and we have to do what we can to make. Sure we're here in the next fifty years. You're absolutely right and I hope you write that book I know you will and I. AM. So honored that you share that story with us very heart warming and important, and it took courage on both of your parts. To were you to reach out and for him to accept and it is breaking down that barrier of often times. Something that's unknown or that fear and how that stand in our way on. That's that's an amazing story and. I know you. Those stories will continue because you will continue your just what you WanNa stored work because my work doesn't feel like work it's just who you are and what you do and how we can get back. To a more united better place. And I'm a big Fan of yours and I have been for sometime and I admire your courage and your perseverance and Helping to educate others. On things that many of us oftentimes don't know and I find myself just when I think I know something I don't but we have to be open and willing to learn that something went on that. Maybe we don't know about but that doesn't mean it didn't happen or that doesn't mean it's not real. And confined our courage again as. People. To I didn't know much about you. Intel I watched your movie then had know look up everything was snow. Erin Brockovich really was. It just inspired me to know that there's actually a other people out there that really really care in doing everything and they live this way of life and it's a hard way of life. I have to admit you know that you know there's not much in it or a other than just doing it from the heart and it's always the best way to go about protecting our water and clean drinking water for everyone I mean. That's the most important part I think that we should all be living. That's national security. This country says. The hell of national security national, security. You're our. Water is. Preserved in clean water. Daughter is alive and we are waking up to that and you know you are young and it's it's so listen my legacy phase. I turn sixty which I cannot believe with four grandchildren now, but it is something that. In. My. Phase and I worry about my grandchildren's future to know that the youth is there and I've been struck of lake having a an intern that seventeen and how much they do about the environment and what it is, their their goals will be moving forward that gives me help and and that is something that none of us can ever lose is that hope and I will always believe in a power. Of we the people and to have that hope and to move in the right direction and you've certainly. Given me hope I WANNA. Thank you for that. And everything that you do I i. Hope I get to see them. That'd be great like you said, yours invited standing rock and the you know the most important piece on everything you just said was that in everything that we do whether it's our nonprofit whether it's history education. We always have to have a US initiative within what we're doing because everything that we're doing the work that you're doing on wing is for nothing if we don't educate can get us involved so. Always, absolutely. It is important and I wanNA feel good passing off in my legacy pays a hope for a better environment and that does come from the next generation. I think they're going to grab. That torch if you will of. Labors love and being united stick to it, and they're gonNA charge through and CR Dreams. Come to fruition for them as well. The, that's what I hope for it. That's why we do what we do. Well, I am again. So thankful for all your time and education and I learned some things today to and. We appreciate you very much. Yeah and I think the last thing that I want to go over. To the probably allow people are probably interested in this. It is the hot topic now. So what where are we at with his current legal process with this Lynch shutting down in on Bird but Kelsey Warren The CEO of energy transfers particularly said I. Think it was yesterday day before that he doesn't care what ruling they make. He GonNa, leave that oil and keep it flowing. So I hope I hope. Thing about that and don't allow him to continue just because as a lot of money to allow him to continue to do what he wants not to follow the law. So that was one thing. That was like you brought that up. And I hang up I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go look I'm going to go research that, and then you and I are I'm sure going to have another conversation Thank you for bringing that to our attention. Yeah, and then the last piece of it now is that they're forcing the corps of Engineers in energy transfer partners to do a full environment in environmental NPR state in which could take years it could take years. So Hall that fits in with our tribe now is now that we have a voice we have we have a say in how this environmental environmental impact statement is GonNa Affect Us. So there's a positive there, but also a negative for our people in a way where it's gonNa cost their tribal out of money. On you know to be able to come up with these plans and get the experts lined up into, be able to put it in black and white and get the legal process going just to Kinda give you a little bit of. A. Like a wild factor was when I was in council, we had three lawyers, right? And Angel. Had Two hundred lawyers on this case? Fallacy crazy. Old versus somebody I don't have money in the political system or even to the court system. So you know our tribe now is going to be able to be able to participate in this environmental environmental impact statement in our hope is that we do such a good job that it's going to take five six years to be able to do it. We can put so much information into it that you know the pipeline will go bankrupt in the won't be able to put any more oil through it so. We know and as we learn more about this and listen when there are rulings, all of us You know. WHO WILL BE Mr Kelsey Warren is above. The law and and one thing when you talk about. Here. You are with your three counts versus there two hundred you have the power of people in the power of knowledge. Standing with you. I think as we all wake up to do this us. and. So it will be something to watch as it plays out and something for us to continue to educate people about the people can stand with because court of public opinion and the power people they're very long line. I think so too Erin, and like I said you know from day one. My following our protocol process we try to stay within piece in prayer through this whole whole movement and We have to continue to move forward in that direction within this movement continued to keep our keep praying about it and hopefully good things will come. I believe that. Cody to Barry. You know you talk about be about it. You are about it and you were a shining example for many of us to follow Youtube Aaron. McKie's said you have a big Hunky so much we very glad you're my friend. Very glad that the crater has allowed us to cross pass so. I am too. So my friend I will see you soon. Absolutely we're excited like at your right at the standing rock come on up and if you guys WanNa, know more about my initiative on what we're doing on standing rock or trying to remorse solar standing rock you know look us up on facebook were indigenised energy knowing give a lot of updates on there. We're just starting to get the ball and. We're starting to do more solar on schools in different infrastructures within reservation boundaries now, so we'll have updates on there until we get our full site. Meetings that is the name of your nonprofit. indigenised energy. You're doing good work. I'M GONNA pop on there now too. But like I said my friend, I am going to see soon. Cody to bears be about it I love it. Thank you. Come stay and play out casino and hotel. Welcome to one of the biggest casinos in the country with luxurious clean rooms upscale dining in the grandest payouts now offering stay play and all in packages including fifty dollars free slot play VIP parking the Ip Casino Access and more book now at live, casino dot com or call four, four, three, four, four, five, two, nine, two, nine at Arundel. Mills must be twenty one please play responsibly for health visit empty gambling dot org or call one, eight, hundred gamblers. People Mr. Fan. 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Dakota Access Pipeline opponent says shes a protector, not a protestor

Climate Connections

01:30 min | 3 months ago

Dakota Access Pipeline opponent says shes a protector, not a protestor

"I'm Dr Anthony with, and this is climate connections. For decades Madonna Thunder, Hawk of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe in south, Dakota has fought to protect native land and water. We are a people indigenous to slant and we are attached to the land. We are not protesters we are protectors. Thunder Hawk has become a prominent voice in the movement against the Dakota access pipeline. The pipeline transports crude oil within miles tribal land and Thunder Hawks says, if it leaks or bursts, the oil will pollute local drinking water. We have many small rivers and tributaries on our reservation at pipeline would affect and we know that dangerous. In July, a federal court ordered the pipeline to cease operating until a thorough environmental review is completed. It was a step forward tribal activists and climate advocates worried about the impact of expanding fossil fuel infrastructure. But the pipeline owners have appealed the decision. So its future remains uncertain. And Thunder, Hawks says the work of protecting land and water is ongoing. We've been dealing with this for many years. So it's not a new blight it's just a continuation. So that's why we are always in the protect mode. Climate. Connections is produced by the Center for environmental, communication to hear more stories like this visit climate action's Dot Org.

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Halloween 2020 Four True Tales of Terror (Sioux Empire Podcast)

The Happy Warrior Podcast

53:59 min | 3 months ago

Halloween 2020 Four True Tales of Terror (Sioux Empire Podcast)

"Hey, guys, this is Peter for Halloween. We have a special treat for you with thanks and permission from our friends. At the Sioux Empire podcast, we are sharing with you their Halloween Special Halloween twenty twenty, four true tales of south, Dakota terror. These are four homemade ghost stories researched and written by my good friend. Robert Mellon all four stories are produced is an audio drama. It's just really high quality stuff I know you guys will enjoy lot is certainly did please listen and enjoy. There are hundreds of towns and forgotten settlements in South Dakota. Some of these abandoned structures still stand a silent monuments to the ambitions of men long-dead a few are now grassy fields with perhaps only a graveyard to mark the name of a community long dead and buried with its deceased residents each of these places thronged with the noises of life. And generated thousands of stories, the byproduct of the dramas of life on the frontier though stories are for another time. For it is October. And the grass. Browning. The crops are drying. And the Earth is slowly dying. A ghost story is in order. But which go story. South Dakota. Has So many. In this episode, Four documented stories of strangeness and Tragedy The Gruesome Death of a mysterious foreign woman and subsequent haunting maker. The first ghost report ever recorded in Deadwood the Sedan Tila Tale of a valley where the earth bleeds and cries. A Lady Card Shark place her final hand, but she doesn't seem to know it yet. In a man on the frontier kills his treacherous business partner. Five years after his own death. The. Sioux Empire we live here. But what do we really know about this land we call home many of us were born here writing our story. Many are new here with new parts of the story to tell. And some of us were always here. But their stories while motto always told. Have never been. Forgotten. This is the Sioux Empire podcast. Stories about the empire. You've never heard in the zoo empire. Before we get started a little business this month. If you like the podcast please tell your friends about this podcast. If you really like US please consider supporting us on Patriot on and getting access to sweet behind the scenes, show notes, photos, and more. I also want to give a big shout out to Peter Picky and his podcast the Happy Warrior podcast. If. You like a political podcast. You should check out his show. It's the Happy Warrior podcast available on all major podcast platforms. Also a great big shout out to the Dave Holly Our podcast I had a great time being interviewed by Dave about this podcast, and if you're interested in what's going on in my world personally or how this podcast has evolved from its previous incarnation into the version that you're joining now you should check it out. If you like this show you like. Dave. Hollies show. He covers the art and theater scene as well as the local comedy and local business seen. There's a lot of great interviews. It's definitely a lot like the old Sioux Empire podcast. If you like that format, you'll love Dave Holly our because it's just like that. But with more Polish Dave's years of experience in radio really shine in his show and it's a great program. Give it a listen. and. Also liked to offer a special. Thank you. Before we start to sue land libraries of Sioux Falls. And a special. Thank you to Betty Jean Martin's from the Kennedy Public Library and pioneer historian lawless went of Vivian. He did a lot of groundwork for this episode out there in Canada and I'm super grateful for it. Just an outstanding human being and thank you so much for your help out there. Alanis. Own. So this month in honor of Halloween I present you with four stories to explore the dark and unexplained sides of south. Dakota. I tried to pick some tales that weren't as commonly told. And in fact, I'm pretty sure that our last tale was lost history even to local historians until now. For First, Tale let's go back to before European settlement. Let's tell the tale of a land where the flesh of the ancestors bleeds up from the ground strange lights and rumors of disappearances haunt this place literally known to the season as C. Chatter literally evil. The Legend of. Cj Hollow. By warmly which There is a place that today is called CJ hollow. It is deep and dark and long memories live there. Few people except this isn't. No. It's entrance and these people keep it story a secret. Once. It was a shelter for many camps. Quiet smokes rose up to the prairie. North. Wind. Tried every opening into the hollow but the great trees held back breath. Deer and antelope slipped into the folds of the hollow. They found open water in salt when all the earth above was hard with ace. Great, teepees lay under buffalo robes. and. The old men sat every day and their meeting houses their bones were worn and their pipes pray to day who had blessed them. But a stranger came from the West into the hollow. His bowl was broken and his moccasins were warned. He had no family. He made a sign to say his name was hand. He was not fall and his eyes were thin. The young girls looked at him and something told them to be afraid. He ate much and did not show. Thanks. He laughed under his breath at the old man. And no one Siam pray. He did not. Smile. Goodman. Nor did he tell stories? The old women said, he should be sent away. But it was cold outside the hollow thick ice covered. The Big Stone Lake. The. Old Man said, he would go when it was one. After several moons, the great light in the sky, the sun began to move back to the north. Earth began to open and let out her young. Young Braves quit their winter games in crept out of the hollow to search for fresh meat and for the eggs of water birds that flew at night from the south. Hand was older in slider and he showed the young boys many tricks. He hid like links and the grass his is to the game to him. He was proud and laughed at the mistakes of the young men. Around the prairie campfire when the old man could not here he said. Why do you follow the old ways? What little glory to you. In the dark of night I can bring you too big kills. That will make you warriors feared by everyone. You will be great chiefs and where scalps at your belts, not the tales of rabbits. Will you listen to me and keep my secrets away from the council fires. It was spring and the young braves hearts were beating for the beautiful maidens hidden in their mothers. TV's. A break kill what proved manhood and the maidens would surrender to marriage. Listen. To me and prepare your walk loves. Soon, the valley trail will be dusty with camps moving north to the lakes, Rice if you follow me. You will strike many coupes and you'll have many eagle feathers in your hair. You will be men not old skeletons who who sit and dream in the lodges. This talk stirred the blood of the youths and they made their warclubs in waited. Every don they watched the valley in order to make their first kill? It was easy. The people of the hollow had always been good. The camps who passed them sent signals a friendship and slips safe on the open earth. Now no more. Hand taught the boys to strike. Travelers woke to whale over their dead they ran for their lives into the tall grass. Holding their hands over the mouths of the little ones blood ran everywhere. It fell into the river and even today this river is called read. The horror spread into the hollow. Children ran for fear when they saw the dripping. Scalps. Women and girls spat on the tracks with the boys walked. The old man called for a council and for the Medicine Man. How can we make up for what our sons have done? How can we wash our hollow from this crime? What will be our sacrifice? We want our hollow to be as it was long ago. We touch con this into the old man. He went to his own lodge to listen to what Konta. He sat with his whistle and rattle and learning sweetgrass. He did not sleep, but his eyes were closed. He waited for thunder to bring him a message. In hand did not. Sleep. He and his killers lit a fire in the middle of the camp. The. Leaps and killed again and again. They bragged shouted to the girls. Lift up the teepee walls and follow us into the grass. Your children will have our blood in them and everyone will tremble when they call out. But the camp listened only to the holy men and prayed with him. An evil had come into their peace. And only thunder could cleanse it from them. A win stirred. The. Whistle and rattle in the lodge stilled OCTA, Father Has Heard. His people. He is accepted their sacrifice. His Messenger was coming. Through. The smoke holes women saw the dark wings of thunderbird. A flash and then another came from his is Sudden fear touched the shoulders of hand. He crouched and shook like a water read. Madness him, but he could not escape. He ran and ran, but the wings of Thunderbird beat him back into the flood that rain from the cloud. Fines reached out for him and took him by his ankles. The water rose to his screaming mouth into his gaping is. He was too evil to cry for mercy and the talents of thunder were ripped out his site. So he would never see the happy hunting grounds. KONTA cont did not take all the sacrifice offered to him by his people in the hollow. Most sat in their teepees and went to God with a prayer. But one was saved by her father she was called Fon. When the we Josh mccown had began his prayer. Fond. Slipped into the door of her mother's teepee. Her hair was black as a raven along. With a bone she began to combet an oil it. Should said it into two braids tied the ends with a bit of ermine. From her bundle, she drew her tassell dress and high white moccasins. Her medicine was calling her to flee the rising water. Up and up the steep slope, she flew the water rose higher behind her. All the world was covered. On the top of the highest hill she stood bright and smooth skinned in the sunlight. She was alone. The only one of her tribe not touched by man or by the evil that hand had brought to her people. She began her song and the great spirit behind the Sun listened. I am grieved for the evil that my brothers did. Your beautiful land is destroyed. I stand alone with you. Let me sing my song before. I. Joined my sisters. You were good to us before evil entered our peace. Now I grieve. I ask your kindness and make this ground where I stand holy again. Remembering this little spot and send your love here. From, this ground make a new people and they will worship you always. Now I go to you. Her Song. In her grief made fon dropped to the ground and she slept. The eye of wilco Tonka. Solder. And he sent a white cloud to cover her. She slept many days. The cloud covered her. She could not feel it from the cloud new life stirred in her. She felt no pain either. But emotion awakened her. And, it was a child hungry for her milk. A tall brave looked down on her and touched her face. Below her the hollow was clean and bright again. Only. The memory lingers CJ hollow. Someday. Even, this bad name will be changed and be forgotten. Gentle smokes will rise again. And it will be called by its old name. Macau. The good land. Located. In the northeast corner of South Dakota deer sisson. Sick a hollow state park is full of both Erie stories. Autumn colors. A quick Internet search. You'll find council how the area is haunted and the scenes of the disappearance of several people in the nineteen seventies. Further. Online investigation would bring articles claiming things like a bigfoot creature lives at the park. and that the streams are red with the blood and the flesh of ancestors. The main foot trail at Sierra hollow is the trail of spirits. At just over one mile in length it's an easy walk for all ages. The trail follows the Roy Creek and some of the springs that flow into it while showcasing many of the two hundred plant species that grow there since it's in the low part of the hollow and under the canopy of trees, the trail is always shady and cool going off the trails presents a risk of bubbling Boggs that can function similar to quicksand. This may be the source of some of the stories of people disappearing, but a surface level investigation of missing persons records. Newspaper databases didn't actually turn up any missing persons. Another explanation for the missing people reports from the park are the possibilities of the steep drop offs and ravines. seach hollow is unexpectedly hilly and wooded area surrounded by the prairies and plains. A phenomenon caused by receding glacier some twenty thousand years ago CR previous episode about the Western hills to understand the literal ups and downs of glacial, Moraine, like the Western hills or seek your hollow. In their book, the South Dakota Guide to haunted places authors, Lewis, and Terry Fisk described. The book says Moans Groans and screams heard from the forest a rationalized as the sounds of trapped gases escaping from the muddy bogs. The water at the park also have a reddish tint. This is caused by iron deposits not blood sign inch along the trail of spirit states it is believed that during winter air is trapped in the bog borders, the creek as snow melts in the ground thaws the gradually released air makes a sound comparable to that that's made when one blows air over the top of an uncapped bottle. See CIA is literally a term for or bad. There are a lot of Dakota narratives about the area, and before it was a state park, it was tribal land. Groups of families lived insecure hollow for a long time though these families who did live there have now either passed away or moved somewhere else one of the first settlers to live in the hollow was a Frenchman. Named Robert Roy. And he and his family members are buried in the Parks Roy Cemetery, which is over one hundred years old this cemetery along with another called Saint Benedict. Cemetery is near the multi use trail system at the park, all of this combined with the Red Boggs, the deep ravines, and the thick woods is the stuff a scary folklore but I guess if you're going to find out if any of these myths are really true, you'll have to go experience it for yourself. China doll murder. Each August, the town of deadwood in South Dakota's Black Hills holds the days of seventy six prayed in which a beautiful young girl is chosen to ride on a float down main street as the years China doll while the former gold mining boomtown keeps the name alive. Hardly anyone today knows about the original China doll or her fate. It's a gory story, befitting deadwood violent past deadwood in eighteen seventy seven was a place of and bustle. It's unpaved streets clogged with thousands of people a mysterious woman named Dee Lee was among them. No one knows where she came from but she no doubt attracted the attention of passersby. old-timers claimed this early black hills pioneer was the most beautiful woman in deadwood. And sometime in the twentieth century, they nicknamed her the China doll or the yellow doll unfortunately, no documented photograph of the striking woman exists. She was reportedly single and wealthy though as far as anyone knew, she was not a prostitute someone cut short her life in a horrific act of murder legend has it that she was hacked to pieces and later haunted the house as a ghost. Authorities never apprehended her murderer of the many Chinese came to North America especially during the various gold rushes fewer remember today but the name China doll lives on even if one can only imagine her face. In her time women of any nationality who did not sell their services to men were a rarity in deadwood. Thus her story raises interesting questions why did she come to deadwood? What were the circumstances of her murder and of course, the biggest question of any murder mystery whodunit? Unfortunately, no information has surfaced on the business that daily pursued, but she did own three lots of houses on Sherman, Street Dead Woods Main Street at the time at the very least. She likely earn income from those two other rental properties while living on the third. Given her holding steely almost certainly arrived in town already wealthy. But like virtually everyone else who ventured into this remote community she was there to make more money the murder of wild bill hickok on August second eighteen seventy six is the crime that most people associate with deadwood. And plenty of eyewitnesses saw Jack McCall pull the trigger. The murder of Dee Lee. The China doll ranks perhaps has the most notorious unsolved crime in a place that had very little law and Order d the WHO appears in sources also, as Digi and D, he was one of the first Chinese to come to deadwood in eighteen seventy six. How long she had been in North America beforehand is unknown. What is known as that? She was young attractive unmarried and able to afford those three well furnished houses on Sherman Street. It seems clear that she was no servant or for that matter was involved in the thriving opium trade in deadwood. The mysterious woman did not live long enough to put down solid roots in the community if that was her intention. She was murdered on November twenty seventh eighteen, seventy seven. In the most likely scenario to people enter de Lis home perhaps with a third person standing outside. One intruder stabbed her with a small knife, the other smashed into the front of her skull with the blunt end of a hatchet a bloody print on the face of the Corp suggested that one of the intruders had placed a left hand over de lis mouth to stifle her screams blood was splattered on the walls of her room and the furnishings were in disorder was greed. The motive authorities were uncertain that she had even been robbed they. Had, the China dolls body removed and taken to the rear of the shantytown in China according to the Black Hills Daily Times. Her face and clothing were clouded with blood presenting a disgusting spectacle later accounts of the crime claim that the victim was chopped to bits but these were exaggerations at an inquest. The next morning several people spoke up about what they might or might not have seen but none of the information shed light on the murder. Dead Woods Acting Corner Dr Charles W Meyer Examined de Lis corpse and found a small wound two inches below the sternum and about one inch in depth made with a blade similar to a pocket knife. This would not have been severe enough to cause death. There were two fractures to the front of the skull apparently caused by the blunt end of hatchet the coroner's jury decided that unknown assailants had. Murdered Lee by blows to the head on November twenty ninth. The Chinese community held an elaborate funeral for the China doll. Typically attendees at such funerals wore white or brightly colored clothing and a band played cymbals and drums people tossed firecrackers and pieces of paper and mourners set aflame perfumed paper incense and colored candles placed around the body De. Lis. Countrymen likely buried her in English side did what original? Although. Her plot may have been at the newly opened Mount Moriah cemetery a few years later to make room for housing officials, disinterred all of the identifiable bodies and ingle side including that of hitchcock and moved them to mount. Moriah there is no record of de Lis grave site. Perhaps the Chinese community wanted her burial location kept a secret the mystery of China dolls life. With her death but apparently, she did have at least one living relative in deadwood. The November Thirtieth Black Hills daily time stated that Hong Lee. Kinship of daily and that Dr Mayer ordered her three lots with the houses on Sherman Street along with a considerable amount of personal property transferred to Hong Lee this cost a bit of a stir in the non Chinese community among those who thought that the probate judge not the acting coroner should determined ownership. Meanwhile, the two big questions lingered who murdered D Lee, what was the motive? The Chinese would not cooperate with deadwood authorities and lawman produced several suspects. But no, one would testify against them in its December twenty second eighteen, seventy, seven issue. The local newspaper reported ghostly encounter at the murder scene. From the daily pressing the code in January fourth eighteen, seventy eight when the body of murder D he was found that gaping wound in the head where the hatchet had been deeply buried told the manner of her death the blood spattered walls, the confusion in the apartment that attitude of the body, all bespoke of violent struggle. The mark of a bloody left across the mouth told that the clutch of the assassin had stifled her cries the premises and the body after the inquest were. Turned over to a friend's it obedience superstition prompted customs of these people perfume paper and various colored candles were burned about the corpse. All the unique ceremonies required by these customs were duly observed and the body buried a well behaved spirit should have written from the veil of tears on the incense created by the burning of their offerings but not. So with the dignity spirit of Madame de the first night that the premises were occupied after the removal of the remains a gentle tap tap. At the door, the voice of the dead is hurt in reply the doors opened and a male voice without begs, admission the door creeks upon its inches as it is wide open. The hurried step of two men is heard a struggle fouls and then again, all is still an examination shows the room in its usual order the door is fastened as before. Of course, the haunted premises are properly vacated and have so remained sense. And now comes the occupants of the adjacent houses who tell that in the dead hours of night when honest men are supposed to sleep and ghost ride the gale broomsticks mop handles excetera and to sit astride the chimneys of deserted old houses the haunted houses of our childhood there is hurt in the vacant tenement struggling muttering curses and the voice of the murdered woman explaining and pitiful pleading accents Blue Shot in move shot yen mu. And the words died away in a Gurgle as the speaker were being strangled and all when no person in the flash about in all this to the average Chinese mind is no mystery the unnatural manner of his death, the unnecessary interruption and this arrangement of their ceremonies. By reason of the presence of their officers have disquieted the spirit of the dead woman and it was where she returns the scene of her former festivities. Chinatown is stirred to its very center over the ghostly presence and vigorous steps are being taken to reconcile the grief ghost. Meanwhile are real estate speculators are interested and predict the property in the neighborhood may soon be dirty. Will. Him. From. ABC. Four months after de Lis murder. The newspapers reported more down to Earth Development in the China doll case. A young Chinese woman ran screaming into the Pixel hotel closely followed by an angry mob of Chinese men and women. The women begged the proprietor to call the sheriff a lawman. Perhaps, the Lawrence Comedy Sheriff John Manning arrived as the noisy crowd sought to drag the frightened woman off. She told the sheriff that she had seen her fella kill Lee. But when she tried to have him arrested law officers paid her no mind. Now, this fellow wanted to get back at her and so did the mob, the sheriff place, the woman in protective custody how long she remained in deadwood jail is unknown as is her fate? Share released her she disappeared from the record. Likewise, papers did didn't identify her fella, The Times made its final reference to the China doll case in it's January twentieth eighty addition deadwood authorities were investigating the opium dens in Chinatown certain Chinese men had been marked for death because he had been seen in the company of deadwood peace officer and was suspected of being a Snitch, a judge assured coon seen that the law would protect him but the newspaper suggested otherwise when any of them, the Chinese violates one of their laws in a few days he is found most brutally murdered as is in the case. Of the woman here in town not less than two years ago, and the authorities were powerless to ever find the person who could be suspected not a Chinaman could be found that knew a thing about it. They were all as reticent as the grave. It is unlikely that anyone from the deadwood Anglo community killed daily motives are lacking she was not raped and it is unclear whether she was robbed most likely a person or persons in deadwood Chinese community committed the murder perhaps that anonymous fellow of the frightened young Chinese woman was involved. The murderers used a small knife and the blunt end of an. Ax the AX is a weapon of choice of the tongs, the Chinese secret societies that sometimes dealt with prostitution gambling and drugs. The use of two different weapons in the crime suggests two assailants. The one lone attacker could've used both weapons. It is possible that Chinese people who reported ghostly encounters knew more about the circumstances of the murder than they were willing to reveal to deadwood authorities. The neighbors go story had the victim pleading in Cantonese something that was loosely translated as do not kill me or do not hit me if daily did let a man into her house in the middle of the night. She must have known him only came forth afterwards claiming to be a relative of the late China doll critique of planned her murder and brought along axe-wielding accomplice to the stand to gain from the property of his next of kin the December Fourth Black Hills Daily Times suggested that daily was the slave of an unknown Asian California but it is doubtful that he had anything to do with the murder in deadwood. If he even existed in short, there are no definitive answers to this mystery barring the unlikely discovery of some revealing Chinese. Journals are letters. The murder of the China doll must remain an open case. Kitty Leroy and the lone star saloon life was indeed cheap and brutal and territorial deadwood, and those tragedies continue to create still more haunting 's. A grim-faced bartender led a pair of sheriff's deputies up the stairs of Deadwood Lone Star Saloon. To the two lifeless body sprawled on the floor. One of the deceased individuals will so gambler named. Kitty Leroy and the other was her estranged husband Sam curly the quiet expression on Katie's face gave no indication that her death had been a violent one. She was lying on her back with her eyes closed and if not, the bullet hole in her chest would have simply had looked as though she were sleeping Sam's dead form was a mass of blood and broken tissue. He was lying face I on the. Floor with pieces of his skull protruded from the self inflicted gunshot wound. In his right hand he held the pistol that had brought about this tragic scene for those towns people who knew the flamboyant twenty-eight-year-old Kiddie Roy. Her violent demise did not come as a surprise. She was a voluptuous beauty who used her remarkable good looks to take advantage of infatuated men who believed her charm and talent surpassed any they had known but Kitty Leroy was not going to let a little thing like dying tragically and her fun. from the Black Hills Daily Times of deadwood January sixteenth of that same year haunted house. disembodied spirits visit the scenes of past realities. Spirits of the good the fair and beautiful guard us through the dreamy hours kinder ones but perhaps less dutiful, keep the places that once were ours. For some time past vague rumors and Brennan circulation concerning unnatural and unaccountable noises and apparitions in the lone star building on lower mainstream news chinatown. This House will be remembered by deadwood I`ts as the recent scene of the murder of Kitty Leroy and the subsequent suicide of her murderer and husband Sam are curly. These reports having become a subject of general conversations. A Times reporter visited the House of which so many stories were afloat and gleamed the following. The Lone Star building gained its first notoriety from the suicide by poisoning of a woman of ill repute last spring. The House was subsequently rented by Hattie Donnelly, and for a time all went smoothly with the exception of such little roads and disturbances as are. Two such places. About the first of December, the House was rented by Kitty Leroy. A woman said to be well connected and possessed of intelligence far beyond her class. Kitty was a woman well known to the reporter and whatever might have been her life here. It is not necessary to display shoes or vices as we deal simply with information gleaned from hearsay and observation. With the above facts before the reader, we simply give the following as it appeared to us and leave the reader to draw their own conclusions as to the phenomenal witnessed by ourselves and many others. It is an oft repeated tale, but one, which in this case is lent more than ordinary interest by the tragic events surrounding the actors. To tell our tail briefly and simply is to repeat a story old and well known. The reappearance in spirit form of departed humanity. In this case, it is the shadow of a woman comes only if not beautiful and always following her footsteps, the tried and form of the man who was the cause of their double death. In the still watches of the night the double phantoms are seeing to tread the stairs where one stay reclined in the flesh and linger or places where once they reclined in being embrace, and finally to melt away in the shadows of the night as peacefully as their bodies souls seemed to have done when the fatal bullets brought death and the grave to each. Whatever may have been the vices and virtues of the ill-starred and ill made couple we trust their spirits may find a happier camping ground than the hills and Gulch is of the Black Hills. and. That though infelicity rained with them here happiness may blossom in a fairer Cli-. The tragedy of a haunted house our final story tonight as a ghost story unlike any other I have ever read in South Dakota, it takes place in the year nineteen hundred appropriately enough it place at a ghost town. The story was reported in the Black Hills Union newspaper of Rapid City on August Seventeenth Nineteen, hundred, the town of Erling. South Dakota no longer exists. The only things left that markets existence, our town cemetery and a handful of classified ad in the argus leader from eighteen nineties mentioning the town and. This story he was located in Lyman County less than half a mile north about a mile west of present day. Ken. A Beck is currently the Lyman County seat, but did not exist until five years after the story according to local historian and all around. Helpful awesome guy wants went of Vivian earlings Lutheran Church was dedicated in eighteen ninety one generally assumed to be the oldest church in Lyman County for the settlers. This church sat the southwest corner of the Erling cemetery grounds which to this day is still maintained by the bank west employees of cannabis and is an active cemetery. It also housed the school for a time before the erection of a permanent school just west of the church, our story begins. Charles W Mary's in jail here charged with the murder of Frank W, Hepi April thirteenth his defense is that the crime was committed by a man already nearly five years in his grave the residents of the neighborhood are so firmly convinced of supernatural in the killing that it is doubtful if a jury can be found in the country to convict a prisoner who alleges such manifestations in the summer of eighteen, ninety, two heavy Thomas Barbour formed a partnership bought a bunch of cattle and engaged in business as ranch men. Both were bachelors and lived in a sod house eleven miles north of this place for two years they got on well together than a dispute arose concerning a division of profits heavy left the ranch and commenced a suit against his partner for an accounting. Before the case came to trial a settlement was affected. The partnership was reestablished and the men resumed housekeeping together about two months afterward happy road into town and. Gave himself up to the authorities with the explanation that Barbour had assaulted him and that he had killed him out of self defense on visiting the House, the officers found Barbara lying where he had fallen. He evidently been sitting or standing in front of the room fireplace and had been killed by a knife thrust between the shoulders. The fact that he was stabbed in the back gave the case and ugly look. Heavies version was that Barbara was reaching for a gun kept over the fireplace as there was no witness to contradict this story, the prisoner with acquitted. Public opinion was so strongly against him, however that he sold his interest in the ranch and left the country. While HEPI was in jail, the knife with which Barbara was killed disappeared in most mysterious manner the night before the case was called the prosecuting attorney saw the knife in his safe he locked the safe and sat down for an evening's work. Before leaving he reopened the safe and was astonished to discover that the knife had disappeared. He had not left his office during the evening nor had anyone but himself entered it. Nothing else in the safe which included a considerable sum of money was disturbed soon after Henry's departure, it began to be whispered that strange things were happening about the deserted cabin passing cattleman said that groans imprecations and shrieks for aid were issued from the windows and sometimes a figure was seen moving inside. The majority spurred by top speed after dark the boulder scoffed at the tails but no one cared to investigate more closely. So far as it is known, the hut was never entered from the time hippie lifted until the night of April. Thirteenth. Heavy himself and Kasmnir were the first revisit it after spending nearly five years on the Texas cow arranges happy return to the North West and obtained employment on a ranch. Nearly one hundred miles north of yearling winter storms drifted many head of his employer's cattle to the southward and happy and Kasmnir. A fellow herdsmen were detailed to round them up on the second. They entered press no county toward the evening snowstorm set in both men were exhausted and blinded by snow. Kasmnir suggested writing to yearling for shelter. On the way happy him either by accident or design tortoise old sod house heavy proposed stopping there for the night. The house was in a very dilapidated condition but the cowboys built a fire on the hearth, produce their provisions and a flask of whiskey and soon. Comfortable. It was late when they arrived and when after partaking of their impromptu luncheon, hepi seated himself on a stump in front of the fire on nearly the same spot where Barbara had been stabbed five years before. Kasmnir thinks it was between twelve and one o'clock. Kasmnir says he had stepped to the door to see whether there were any signs of a cessation of the storm when he was startled by yell of agony from his companion rushing inside, he found the ladder lying on his face in front of the fire, his forehead actually in the embers a knife sticking in his back. Afraid to stay in the house longer he mounted his Bronco started for yearling. He was unfamiliar with the country and soon became hopelessly lost such was the story he told when found early the next morning wandering aimlessly over the prairie, his rescuers accompanied him to the cabin. Heavy was still on the floor with a knife sticking between his shoulder blades on drawing it out the spectators were horrified to discover. It was the same weapon which had so mysteriously disappeared from the President County prosecuting attorney. Safe Kasmnir was brought into town in locked up now he might have pleaded self-defence with at least as good a chance of acquittal is happy he insists that the latter was killed by an invisible assailant the knife has been fully identified as the same that with which Barbara was slain public opinion is strongly with the prisoner. So what happened next Well we don't know. The records are lost sometime around nineteen thirty, a tornado scattered the original early church resulting in the loss of nearly all the church records including birth death and marriage certificates. The Church of Erling was used sparingly at that time and the congregation at gradually been absorbed to the cannabis Lutheran congregation, all of the locals that I've talked to about the story seemed to. Have no idea that this story took place or I've ever heard of its newspaper. Clipping is literally the only record. We have laughed of the event to be honest ever since I found it I. Myself Have Been Mentally Haunted by the story and its implications, and the fact that it isn't more widely known so that story's pretty amazing and I literally can't find any locals who had any idea. The story had taken place lawn did a whole bunch of groundwork for me out there in Cana back with a lot of the. Old Timers who are still around and we could find no record of this story or anyone living that remembered any aspect of it, which the story seems pretty spectacular. It makes me wonder what other like fantastic stories are still out there in South Dakota to be discovered and just let you know this podcast is going to keep looking for those stories I hope that you'll stick with us and and we'll find more of these amazing tales to tell you stories that have never been heard in the Sioux Empire more after this break. So this month, we have a little bit of listener mail after our episode about KKK violence an activity in South Dakota. I asked listeners on social media. If they had family stories about these events listener Bruce St rights just thought I'd mentioned the KKK in the nineteen twenties burnt. On Spirit. Mound. North vermilion my grandparents farm could see the glow in the night as it was meant to scare the local Irish Catholics and immigrants during the Heyday Day of the nationwide rebirth of the clan after the movie birth of a nation. Thank you for your message Bruce and if you have any kind of messages or personal anecdotes or anything about all the topics that we talk about that, you'd like read on the podcast all you have to submit those. You can send those to Info at the Sioux Empire podcast dot com or hit me up on social media That's always cool I. Really hope that he will enjoyed this episode if you want. 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Promotes this show and helps keep going finally a very special. Thank you to my voice actors for this episode. So I pulled the talent from my previous audio drama production edge case podcast, which by the way is still out there and with this being October, you should totally check out this. Guy Anthology audio drama series. It's edge case podcast, and there's a link to on the Sioux Empire podcast page. That's the Sioux Empire PODCAST DOT COM. Anyway we used a ton almost thirty different, extremely talented voice actors in the production of that show and tonight I just want to thank the voice actors who stepped up and read parts of these stories for me and gave us a really really awesome dramatic readings. I couldn't be more prouder of the work they did and I just WanNa. Say Huge. Thanks to first Levi Hanssen for. Reading the CG hollow portion that's Levi. Hanssen is hip hop rap name is gorilla pimp and you can check out all of his social media be sure to follow. Subscribe to his music and follow his social media. He was also one of the. Original Co, hosts of one of my previous podcasts, the urban Indians podcast. So leave is an awesome guy. Thank you for doing that reading Levi next. Brett. Stolz. REG The daily portion. Brett is an awesome voice actor that we utilized a lot in education podcast and I just WanNa, say thank you very much for doing that I really appreciate it, and I'm sure our audience really appreciates that too. Then for the Kitty Leroy part that was read by Melilla Kaczynski, which I am finally getting her last name, right? She was an intern for the Empire podcast for Education Podcast over last summer twenty nineteen summer, and she did a lot of production work and music editing and things like that. For that edge case podcast that I previously mentioned. She did the voice part for the Kitty. Leroy portion of this episode and just a huge thank umile effort for your participation. 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One Meat Plant. One Thousand Infections.

The Daily

32:19 min | 9 months ago

One Meat Plant. One Thousand Infections.

"I came to America Thinking. I can never go through hell. But what if this come to me? This virus is very dangerous. It caught everybody off guard including myself. I was never prepare for New York Times. I'm Michael Barr. This is the daily. Yeah today one of the largest breaks of the corona virus in the. Us has been inside a meat processing plant. In South Dakota my colleague Keelan dickerson speaks with one of its workers As an immigration reporter as soon as I hear that Cova nineteen is starting to spread across country. I start thinking about. Who are the most vulnerable people in this pandemic and right away meat and poultry plants? Come to mind because these facilities tend to be staffed by immigrants. There's GonNa be a lot of pressure on workers to show up for work because they've been deemed essential by the federal government and because of the nature of the work. The facilities are massive and often you have thousands of people working at a single time and they literally stand shoulder to shoulder touching all the time are you there. Oh shoot you just dropped out something happen so I put in touch with a woman named chew. Dang who we did it. Yes we do just to start out shoot. Can you just introduce yourself and tell us what work you do? So Dang I work with Smithfield we produce pork a shoot is shift lead at the Smithfield pork plant in Sioux Falls. South Dakota and I am lead person for one department. Eighth More Conversion to works in the Conversion Department deboning and processing all different cuts of pork. She's thirty five and she's a single mom of three boys. Give give give me a second. Okay my son discount and give me a second who are trying to get their homework done while we talk. So are him back. You're back you're back okay. So how did you come to work at Smithfield? The to go from South Sudan Kenya and to America. Yeah okay So yes I was born in South Sudan but then when I was six years old we had a terrorist attack in the village a shoot was born in Sudan and she became an orphan when she was six years old during the country's civil war and we walked to Kenya and I was in nine hundred ninety in one thousand nine hundred one still. She grew up in refugee camps in Ethiopia and Kenya. Where life was really hard They created a school but pretty much people go and sit under the tree because there was no building classroom like that in the beginning her school was shady spot beneath a large tree where children wrote their English lessons with sticks and the dirt. Yeah it seemed like it was normal at the time because we have no any other choice. She often went days without having food or fresh water. A lot of her friends died. She didn't know if she was ever going to leave so she took life one day. At a time I would say it was just surviving because you. You don't know what would happen tomorrow. And then in the year two thousand. Her life changed completely. I got the news that I was going to get a second chance of life. I'M GONNA go to the to the United States. She was chosen for a program that relocated Sudanese orphans. All my God it was a happy is feeling for me. I cannot believe I didn't go to sleep the next day I went to school. I I told my friends. Yeah she moved to. Kansas City started life in America. She graduated High School and started community college and then she starts working as a waitress and then in early twenties doing private security. And then how do you get to Sioux Falls South Dakota how you know I always tell people I moved to Sioux falls for various to reason thinking that I find a man so that was pretty much. Reza right there i. I moved in with my younger son father than we broke up. Okay how did you hear about the Smithfield factory? For the first time he actually told me about it because before I moved here I told him I cannot go a month without a job because a lot of people are relying on me and most importantly my kids so and that's when he told me. Oh Yeah there is a company here Smithville and when you were hearing about it what what were people saying? It was good things. You're start wages with Smithfield was twelve ninety five. That is a very good pay. They have healthcare health insurance so a lot of people cam to Sioux falls because of Smithville and what it was offering to people. I know a lot of the Sudanese families cam here because of Smithfield so when I went and put in my application right in there told me. Okay you start tomorrow well and I started asked operator and for someone who's never heard of Smithfield or been to the plant. Can you just walk through? What exactly it is that. You guys do there so Smithfield. We received life. Hawks slaughter them a cut them into pieces. What I mean by that by cutting off Hams legs are we made Bacon Ham even hot dogs cheese dogs we have. Those are the things we do SMITHVILLE. So is the entire pig that come alive turn into so many things afterwards. And what is a wizard guy? Is the circle knife that goes into this electric. Thank you turn it off and on. And what is it used for? The US was a knife to trim off fat from the loin until this pretty much all meet just mate without fat so picture a massive factory floor with giant chunks of pork zooming by on a conveyor belt and shoot and the other wizard knife operators are responsible for shaving fat off of the meat as it zooms past them. How many pigs are processed there every day? Ten thousand or more pick. That's huge. Yeah and there is possible for four to five percent of all the pork that's produced in the United States so when you first started what did you think of it. How did it go? What did I think of Smithfield? Hard work hard work is what I thought of it. But you're not really thinking of how hard it is. You are thinking of money. You know and everything that you know. Once you get the paycheck you are able to pay for the apartment. You are able to put food on the table. These were the thing that I was thinking. And what was it like for you physically in the beginning starting out once you start doing something for the first time something that you'd never done. Your muscle is rejected bodies when rejected so I was always sore. I was always my risk was sore. My arm will you know when numb though after work I would come home and is like on my shoulder or my wrist and then take Ibuprofen than I did that every night. Wow until one day I went to I eight and I talked to the nurse and the nurse was very nice outgoing and she said you know what? Let me give you this advice. You know this job is a hard work as severe hard work you've been doing. This was a knife for for a year now. And you're hurting your arm hurt. Your shoulder hurt. I would do one job for about a year but after that sign another job that way you have a rotation in your body so she takes us advice and over the next couple years she starts moving around the factory two different jobs she eventually becomes a shift lead and she starts working a lot of overtime usually eleven to twelve hours a day six days a week but it really pays off and she starts to feel comfortable financially. I get paid eighteen seventy an hour. What does that higher hourly wage meant for Your Life? My Boys My All three of them I can give them what I never have Which is a better life at a young age last year? I took them to Disneyworld. That's something that when I read their. I cried but I was. It was a tears of happiness. Brennan my kids. I am American. Buy Papers I bring my kids here and that was something I did. I was so proud of myself between the new salary she's making and the overtime that she's working she's able to move into a bigger apartment with her sons and she's also supporting five family members who are still living in Africa so this job offer me to take care for anybody else. Not just my boys you know. So you're basically supporting nine people on your salary from Smithfield. Yes wow. So that's why I pick up overtime regardless of me being tired every morning when I go to work. I put everything that the company offered me. in order to make sure this food that I'm making doesn't have anything that can go in her and harm someone because you know these. These food or go into families is going to children is going to. Mothers is going to fathers uncles. Aunts everyone around the world working the factory. I'm making food for people around the world I of that every day. It sounds like you take a lot of pride in your job yes I do. Do you remember the first time you heard about the Koran virus? Yeah I was said. It was sometime in January February. We just talking about is kind of like a something that happened in China and is going to stay in China then come the beginning of March it was Seattle and then the next morning I went to work and now everybody works is talking about it but still most of us As refugees immigrants is like. It's probably you know people are maybe just being extra about it right now. Maybe it's not that bad. Viney thinker reacted that way for me. Personally I'm like okay if if it becomes to effect on Light. I've been through so much if this is just like a virus. You're talking to someone who had malaria. You know I survived. That saw like okay. If if it's GonNa be like malaria I can go through. It is just GonNa be like any other thing that I've been through but then on Saturday march twenty first things start to change at Smithfield. When I went to work that morning I saw a lot of people with Cleaning up the the handrails doors bathroom doors with wives and unlike was going on and the one of the people told me I this thing series. Shoot this thing is serious but you know I'm I'm thinking now okay. A hundred fifty to one hundred sixty people in one shift you sitting in the break room to where tables are very small. You have six people in one table. And then later that day she gets an email that time was what I receive an email video from the CEO's Smithfield CEO. Hi I'm Ken Sullivan. President and CEO Smithfield Foods. I'd like to talk to you today about Cova. Nineteen Perron virus so I watched the video from the CEO About this. Virus is not coming from food according to the FDA and CDC. There's no evidence that cove in one thousand nine can be transmitted by food and America Need Food. Ever family need food We don't want people to struggle from hunger let alone a virus families we feed millions of people everyday every single day. It's a business with no shortcuts and no days off. Most of our team members worked side-by-side on production lines in our facilities. We can't stay home. We can't telecommute food after all does not get made on the Internet so our company is. It's not gonNA get shut down. We're here we're always here. We're food company and despite cove in nineteen indeed because of it working around the clock to do what we do best and that's deliver good food responsibly. How did it feel to you to have your job? Deemed essential in the middle of a pandemic when people all over. The country are panicking. Your work is deemed fundamental to keeping the country. Going at one point I was negative about it at one point I was like wow do that mean my life. Don't matter and here I am putting my life. Risk coming to work because People around the world need food but I said okay. I'm just going to have to stay positive and people if people need food and I'm able to do that for them then. I'm just going to put my life to God to protect me and not get sick. Did you announcer just staying home from work and not going. In to be honest I do not. I was just thinking off. No I need this job. I need to keep working so I could support my family and as out thinking about it now and hurt. It hurts that you. You didn't think about yourself We all shop online a lot and finding promo codes. That work isn't easy unless you use honey. The free browser extension backed by Papal. That scans the Internet for the Best Promo Code and automatically attitude heart. Just download honey to your computer shop like normal. Quick the apply coupons button and watched the prices drop. It's one hundred percent free to use and installs in just a few seconds. Get honey for free at join honey dot com slash daily. That's join honey dot com slash daily. I'm Alexandra Lee young and I'm a producer on the daily. When this pandemic reach the United States we knew that we needed to hear from the experts. People like Donald G McNeil Junior from the science desk. Who could give us this? Kind of scientific sobering look at what the pandemic would mean for us around that same time. I also went out just around the corner to my local grocery store and talk to the manager. He was panicked and sleep-deprived literally trembling as I spoke to him and he told me about how this pandemic affects him and his customers at the New York Times. We think it's really important to hear from this full spectrum of voices both the experts from people who are going through what you're going through right now and we can't keep doing this kind of work without the support of New York Times subscribers. So if you'd like to subscribe go to ny times dot com slash subscribe by the end of March hospitals across the country are being overrun by. Kovic Patients Governors start shutting down businesses and ordering people to shelter in their homes. But in South Dakota there are still only a few cova cases and shoot is still going to work until Saturday march. Twenty eighth now Saturday. My superintendents came up around. I would say about three o'clock and he said okay. I want to have a meeting. They asked me if I have any fever. Cough any you know shortness of breath and I say no. I'm doing I'm doing good. And he said one of the machine operator tested positive. Say What while that person? I work with her that morning. For like I will say about fifteen minutes. They said okay. Well you got home because you had close contact with and I'm like really you got. I didn't say it out loud. But I'm thinking being silly and that's when they told me you're going to be under quarantine for the next fourteen days but I'm still going to get paid forty hours. Is that enough for me is not enough for me. As a person who do all the time overtime is like five hundred extra. Five hundred dollars that for me. It covered a lot of things. What do I do? I can't go and get another job but at that time I was told is just two weeks so I'm like okay two weeks I'll be okay. It's still going to drop me back. One step backward but I'll be okay and then Monday night was when I got sick Monday night I went to bed killin. Okay I will about two. Am with the sharp pain. My body is just feel like someone stab me so I went to the bathroom and I said okay. Maybe if I take a shower a cold shower is going to be better so I turn the water on and they just when the water hit my body it feel like a bunch of rocks was getting thrown on my body so I turn the water off. I took the towel to dry myself and my skin. I just couldn't use the towel edges. My skin hurt so like okay. I'm frigging out and then Thursday night. My Body at this point is soy sauce that even walking on pushing myself. I just felt like something heavy. Sit right on my chest now. The fear relief kicked in. Because now I'm having problems breathing. I said okay. If it's going to be better for me I I'm going to stay up. I don't want to sleep because if I go to sleep. Chances are going to be going to wake up. That's when I left my room I came to the living room and just sat there because I said okay. If if I stay in my room I died. I don't want my kids to find me dead in the room. What was that like for you emotionally? I mean what's going through your mind. I went right back to my childhood to everything that I've been through. It live about my kids. If I die by kids will go through the night through the loneliness. You know not having antibiotic check into like a parent's thick break this kiss to this world survive through everything that I went through aside. I haven't had a chance to tell them. They don't know that mom then adult. What that Bob with through all they know is that my mom is a workaholic. She will do anything to give us a better life. That's all they know is not a perfect world. I'd make perfect for that but if I die does world is not perfect more. Sounds like a horrible horrible night. It was it was. It was one of the worst night ever so well shoot is at home sick with the corona virus. The situation at Smithfield is evolving. This smithfield pork processing. Plant is now a corona virus hotspot. More and more of her colleagues are falling ill. How many other cases you hear about among your colleagues a lot a lot. A lot within the the socities community alone. I think we have like at least forty people that I know but in my department I was told that it went up to eighty in one department. Eighty people and how big is your department on a good day? That people were showed up as one hundred and fifty five. The outbreak at that Sioux falls plant is among the worst clusters of corona virus in the country about two hundred fifty workers. They're tested positive for corona virus. Three hundred fifty workers tested positive for covert nineteen and as the days pass. It keeps getting worse. The number of cases skyrockets up to more than four hundred smithfield workers who are sick and the governor calls on the head of the company to stop production one of the nation's largest food processors smithfield foods will close its work processing plant in South Dakota for further cleaning Swan April twelfth. The president of smithfield announces. He's going to close the plant indefinitely and all the workers are San home. This morning there were fears. The nations food supply chain is at a breaking point after more than a dozen major meat processing plants to become Cova nineteen hotspots. Meanwhile food processing plants across the country are getting hit. Hard with Cove Ed. Other major companies like Tyson. Start raising the alarm that they're having trouble producing and delivering food to the nation's grocery stores because of the virus meanwhile president trump announced an executive order to compel meat processing plants to remain open and last week. President trump signs an executive order declaring meat and poultry plants as part of the nation's critical infrastructure as a way to pressure the plants to keep producing food in Sioux falls. The plan is still closed. Smithfield says it will continue to pay workers for forty hours a week until they go back to work and it's speeding up plans to reopen the plant as quickly as possible. But that's also raise questions about whether it can do so safely. How are you feeling? Now physically physically. I feel I feel I feel good. I'm still having a little bit of headache. But you know that's like almost every day when you are a mob and you know not freaking out over it but my favorite this one is still at a hundred and I have no idea why I'm just trying to get it down to like nine denied at least before I call my doctor to go for check in but I cannot afford to stay home for a long time I would give myself a month and if goes after four weeks No it wouldn't be good for me at all. It sounds like as soon as you start feeling better. Your focus goes from your health back to your finances. Yes that is correct. So now my focus is to try to take care of myself as possible to where when this company opened back up. Then I'm ready to go. So that's where my focus is Thank you so much for talking to us about your experience. You're welcome and thank you very much for at least giving me the the voice. A lot of people don't understand the living off the refugee camp. I don't take anything for granted because of what I been through as I am because of what I see happening to other kids. That did not make it but uh Persia they are looking over me. They are watching me and I'm going to make them proud On Friday federal officials said they were investigating. The conditions at the South Dakota Smithfield plan that may have contributed to the outbreak so far more than one thousand infections and two deaths have been linked to the plan and it is scheduled to partially reopen Later today Roses are red social. Distancing makes us blue. Can't be with mom this mother's Day. Don't worry we've got you. Maybe you can't give Mama Hug right now but you can flowers from the BUCO. That's short for bucase. Books are responsibly. Sourced from the world's finest eco-friendly farms even farms on the sides of all. Kino's so buksh flower. Stay longer this mother's Day. Go TO BOOKS DOT COM slash daily. That's B. O. U. S. dot com slash daily and. 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We're going to form a consortium with our seven northeast partner states which by about five billion worth of equipment and supplies that will then increase our market power. When we're buying seven states said they would begin jointly purchasing medical equipment from gloves to ventilators to avoid competing with one another and because the federal stockpile of such equipment is running out. So this consortium I think will help us get the equipment and get it at a better price. The consortium involves New York New Jersey Connecticut. Pennsylvania Delaware Massachusetts and Rhode Island. As of Sunday. There were nearly sixty eight thousand deaths from corona virus in the US and newly two hundred and forty six thousand worldwide. That's it for daily unlikable bar. Hey everyone you know. A lot of things are changing in our professional lives. So linked learning wants to give you a hand with skills that can help you and your career. 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Thank You Letter

Telescope: Life in the Time of Corona

18:35 min | 6 months ago

Thank You Letter

"I think when people look back at this time in our history, especially, in US history they're going to see a lot of disagreement a lot of fighting really. Whether the topic is, should you wear a mask? Should we open the school's back backup or should we let federal agents grab protesters off the streets? There's just not a lot of empathy going around. People are not taking a moment to step into each other's shoes. Try to see things from both sides. There's a lot going on in the world. A lot to take issue with. A lot to take aside on. But there's also a lot to be grateful for. Like all the essential workers, risking their lives, clocking in day in and day out tobacco groceries, drive buses or deliver our mail. These are services. We rely on to survive. But we often take them for granted. And that's what today's story is about. Someone showing gratitude when they didn't have to and setting an example in the process one that affected a lot of people. And she's eleven years old. I saw him like look at it. Funny and it was just. It was really weird because he got tired of caught him off guard. Media, this telescope I'm Jonathan Hirsch Monday Wednesday and Friday. We'll bring you. Stories of people who are far away up close. And? How each of us are learning to live? This moment. Producer Joanna Clay has the story. Emerson Weber loves to write letters usually on the inside is just a really. One or two pages full of words. I write a lot and then on the outside. It's a envelope debated with bright colors, and sometimes some glitter glue because who doesn't like glitter glue I mean. Yeah, who doesn't like Glitter Glue? Emerson is eleven. She just finished the fifth grade and she lives in Sioux Falls South Dakota. But her pen pals. They're all over Minnesota. North Carolina Idaho. Lot our friends and family, but most are folks. She's never met so I usually included tidbit of information about my brother Finn is younger than me. Any drives me crazy sometimes, but I love him anyway and I always share what I'm reading so right now. I'm reading the shadow children's series by Margaret. Peterson had it. And why do you think a letter is maybe nicer than an email or text? I just feel like it's more personal because they know that you thought about them and took the time to think about them and write them a letter. Enduring the pandemic with folks stuck at home. She's ramped up her letter writing on average. How many letters you're writing may be a week. On average is probably about eight, but now this week. It's probably been about twenty. Wow. The hardest part about quarantine has been being stuck at home unable to see her friends at school, so writing letters has been a source of comfort away to keep her friends updated on her life. Emily Thankful for mail carriers right now because they helped me get to people who I'm not near at the moment, and so I feel like now. People just really appreciate getting a letter. Emerson didn't know her mail carrier by name, but she knew face became every day and whisked her letters off to pen pals. And it hit her. Why not write him a letter? I just really wanted him to know that people were thankful for him. Because right now he sees lots of male, but he may not receive lots of male. I wanted him to know we cared about him and he was appreciated. How did you address it because you didn't know his name at the time? Right, so you put it in the mailbox so on the envelope a decorated it really bright and I wrote Mr Mailman this letter is for you. Yeah, you because I'm sure it'd be a little bit of a surprise like wait what I usually take letters from this person I. Don't get to open them. That's awesome. And then what happened when he got the letter I saw him like look at it funny and it was just it was really weird, because he got it kind of caught him off guard, so were you like watching through the window? Yeah, we were we kind of know when he comes during the day, so we did watch the window. Did you see him read it. She still had a job to do so we like pulled up and I'm sure he read it later after he did his route so I didn't see him. Read it it pretty long, so he would have had to sit there for a while. How long was it? What did you write in? It is probably one and a half pages and I just told them about myself. I like it when you write the first letter to somebody because you can tell them all these things about yourself that they don't already know and so I included lots of that. What kinds of things just my favorite color? Some instruments I play what grade I'm in. Can you tell me those things? My favorite color is blue. I've played guitar and my lucky number seven, because that's how many albums Taylor swift has out and soon, my favorite song writer so told him about that. Doug her milk carrier was touched in hours later. He came into office in Sioux. Falls insured with a supervisor Sarah Bell Will Doug. He had come in from his route. He was done with it for the day, and after he was done putting things away at his case, he came up to me with his hand. Any shared it with me as a supervisor Sarah Signs. The routes Sioux falls has forty six city routes, and she makes sure that the carriers are taken care of with their. It's watching out for dangerous dogs or fixing broken mailboxes. Basically, she's better make their jobs easier. And you said you know, I think we ought to write this girl back. This is a pretty long letter and it's. It's pretty cool, so I sat down and read it and it was just. It was describing how appreciative she was that he takes her male and make sure it gets to the right person and. That he's out there every day dealing with the elements and pandemic. Putting himself out there like that. And I just found it heartwarming. Doug Sarah if she would help him and right Emerson back so Sarah took the letter home. I did it on my stationary I had there. So I included some stickers in there purple pen something that I thought she would appreciate as an eleven year old. And I asked her about her family I hope that they were doing well and just think turf for reach an hour, and for thinking a postal worker, and how much it mattered to him. Emerson had no idea, but Sarah had already shared her. Thank you, letter to Doug with USPS. It was making the rounds, so we have a bulletin board here at the station and so I put it up. There and everybody was kind of odd by it that it was a real good letter, so I took it, and I put it in internal newsletter, called Tokens of thanks into a shared with postal workers across the country. And then the responses started pouring in, and they wanted to know how they could write her. They wanted to thank her basically for thanking them. It, touched mail carriers all over the country, the small token banks to these essential workers who, for the most part, we kind of take for granted I think a lot of time. They're just kind of somebody that you see in the background on a normal basis and a Lotta Times I think postal workers don't think too much of it about getting. Thank you. but when like the the postal workers from around the company saw how much one person appreciated it. They wanted to take the time to write her back and just thank her for being her after Sarah's letter, Emerson started getting more letters from postal workers. A lot of them so about maybe two or three days later I dug, dropped off two big boxes of mail, and it was crazy, and they were all personal in long, and I got to read through. This overwhelming reaction it touched. Amer said she has a bucket for her letters, but made a special bucket just for the USPS once. Yeah I've been saving all the letters. I've received throughout all of this and I'm sure when I'm older I'll read through them and stuff like that I was GonNa make scrapbook, and like put him on different places and decorate them, but now there's so many I I take way too long so I've just been keeping them in a bucket. The reaction. It showed that thank you means a lot right now. The pandemic has thrown mail. Carriers into overdrive. People are ordering packages at the rate. They normally see around, Christmas. Luckily Sarah, Bell and her employees in Sioux falls have been okay. Only a couple have fallen ill with in nineteen, and they've recovered, but according to the La Times over thousand USPS workers have fallen ill from the corona virus, and at least sixty one have died. This is Sarah again. We provide them. The face masks gloves. And then we make sure that there's social distancing within the office. I think the biggest thing is to keep them informed I know the first week. A lot of people were super scared. They didn't know what it was. What was going to happen how long it was gonNA last like we have headquarters putting out information that we can read to the carriers and gives them on a daily basis. Sometimes, we were doing up to four talks a day to just keep them in the loop about the news and Statistics. the United States. Postal Service is chronically underfunded. In fact, no tax dollars go to the agencies operating expenses which are funded by postage products and services while package deliveries are up first class mail is the bread and butter when it comes to revenue and overall mail volume is down. In a statement back in April the postmaster general said that the agency predicts an additional twenty two billion in. Over the next eighteen months and fifty, four billion in the long-term threatening survival dumb line. USPS is asking Congress for relief. which president trump hasn't exactly been keen on the postal. Service is a joke. The Post Office should raise the price of a package by approximately four times because it'll raise them. President. Trump also critiqued the safety and efficacy of mail in ballots, five states in the US including Washington State and Hawaii are already nearly entirely vote by mail. USPS and local governments have shown confidence in their ability to continue processing ballots. Sarajevo doesn't like to talk politics, but what she will say is her mail. Carriers are working harder than ever on average they take between. Eight or sometimes up to twelve hours per day Anna's forest packages I would say at the lower end about twenty a day up to. A hundred seventy five, so it's it's A. It's a lot. They're delivering what people need on a regular basis, medicine stimulus social security checks. They've a lot of farmers in the area so sometimes they're delivering a part for a broken tractor, so can get up and running again. It's an important job. It's what meet Sarah. Want to work for USPS. When I was little I always appreciated my mail carrier He had a special role in my life to, and it was the same one from when I was a little kid until I left the House Sarah to start writing letters when she was around Emerson's age and then. You know when when I started my first job. Obviously that slowed down because I had to get a grasp on on how to live life as an adult, but then came back around to it. You know and joined a couple of online groups and. There's like a a couple on facebook where we just write letters to somebody that has a birthday so simple card it just. It's amazing how much it'll touch somebody else. I ask Sarah Emerson the same question at the end of their interviews. What do you hope listeners take away from the story? And they both gave the same answer. A ladder. Just God, there and see maybe. A person that you could write you. They'll appreciate the time that you take to actually handwrite alert to them. Miss GonNA mean a lot to them. It sounds simple in sort of tedious like. Don't we have email for this? But there is something about receiving a letter. It always feels special when I got one. Why not pay that forward more often? Right after to Sarah, I opened instagram and the first thing I saw was an image of a woman named. With sign above her head that read. Will you be my pen pal? It felt like a sign. That sign was literally assigned. Barbara lives in a senior living facility in North Carolina and its operator Victorian senior care has been flooding social media with Posts Light Barbara's asking folks to consider writing to people and it's care, so I figured why not? AM getting paper. I'm going to write to him. Name Blonde Dow. She's from Cumberland village and Fayetteville North Carolina and her sign says hey. My name is blonde doll I like to call her. Eat Candy and shop and I mean same so I don't have glitter glue, but I do have markers. Let's get this? Party started. somethings I've included is in thirty three. I live in Los Angeles told her I also like candy. I'm currently obsessed with churches. Dummies and included my of which is putting them in the refrigerator because they are delicious when they're cold, so I'm just trying to think of things to write to someone who has no idea who I am and then. Ask One dollars a little bit about yourself and then some this off. Taking a cue from Emerson right now and drying. But I just drew. Such an ugly flower, but I feel like you know at least I tried. These farmers are truly sad. Now putting in this in the mailbox, In its. OFF TO BLONDEL A BIG! Thank you to Emerson. Weber and Sarah, bell for taking time to talk with us. This is the forty ninth. Of Season One of telescope, which means they can't believe this. We have only one left coming up this Friday. Before we leave you today. I want you to know if you didn't know already that we do a lot of other things here at home besides telescope. And we're producing a whole set of shows that are coming out this fall. And recently we partnered with a number of media organizations to produce new shows like motive for murder with NBC and dateline. If you're interested in other projects and neon home has under our belt. You can go to our website. neon home, DOT COM and sign up for a newsletter. You'll find interesting behind the scenes detail about the stories. We do here until ISKOE. You. You'll also hear about all the other great shows we have for you. So check this out. NEON HUM DOT COM. Does is made possible by the world class team of producers, editors and engineers makeup neon home media. Jonty is the managing producer telescope. Today's episode was produced and reported by Klay. It was edited by Victim Patel and Catherine Saint Louis Our engineer is Marc. Busch thanks to Matt McGinley For our theme music and blue. Dot Sessions for additional tracks here on this episode. Follow us on twitter and Instagram at me on home. 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One Meat Plant, One Thousand Infections: Revisiting Achut Deng

The Daily

33:41 min | 6 months ago

One Meat Plant, One Thousand Infections: Revisiting Achut Deng

"Hey. It's Michael this week revisiting people. We met in the early weeks of the pandemic, listening back and hearing. What's happened to them since our original conversation? Today. A chewed Dang. Pork factory worker in Sioux Falls South Dakota. Wednesday July fifteenth. I came to America Thinking I. Can never go through hell. But what if this come to me? This virus is very dangerous. They caught. Everybody off guard. Including Myself. I was never prepared for. From The New York Times I'm Michael Barr. This is the daily. Today. One of the largest outbreaks of the corona virus in the US has been inside a meat processing plant in South Dakota. My colleague Keelan Dickerson speaks with one of its workers. It's Monday may fourth. As an immigration reporter as soon as I hear that cove in nineteen, starting to spread across the country, a start, thinking about who are the most vulnerable people in this pandemic and right away, meat and poultry plants come to mind. Because these facilities tend to be staffed by immigrants. There's GonNa be a lot of pressure on workers to show up for work because they've been deemed essential by the federal government. And because of the nature of the work, the facilities are massive, and often you have thousands of people working at a single time, and they literally stand shoulder to shoulder touching all the time. Are you there. Oh shoot. You just dropped out. Something happen so I'm put in touch with a woman named Chew Dang. Who We did it? Yes, we did. Just to start out shoot. Can you just kind of introduce yourself and tell us what work you do, so my name is that shoot Dang. I work with SMITHVILLE. We produce pork. A shoot is a shift lead at the Smithfield pork plant in Sioux, falls South Dakota and I am a lead person for one department aches more conversion to works in Conversion Department deboning and processing all different cuts of pork. She's thirty five and she's a single mom of three boys. Give give me a second. Okay, my son discount in. Give me a second. Who are trying to get their homework done? While we talk, so are back. You're back, you're back. Okay, so, how did you come to work at Smithfield? The to go from South Sudan Tovia Kenya and to America yeah okay. So yes, I was born in South Sudan but then when I was sixty years old. We had a terrorist attack in the village. Shoot was born in Sudan and she became an orphan when she was six years old during the country's civil war and we walked Kenya. And I was. In nineteen, ninety, nine, hundred, ninety one still. She grew up in refugee camps, NATO, Thea and Kenya where life was really hard, they created. School! But, pretty much people go and sit under the tree. Because I was building classroom or anything like that? In the beginning, her school was a shady spot beneath a large tree where children wrote their English lessons with sticks and dirt. Yeah, it seemed like it was normal at the time because we have no any choice. She often went days without having food or fresh water. A lot of her friends died. She didn't know if she was ever going to leave, so she took life one day at a time. High we say it was just. Surviving 'cause you, you don't know what would happen tomorrow, you know. And then in the air two thousand, her life changed completely. I got the news that I was I'm going to get a second chance of life. I'M GONNA go to to the United State. She was chosen for a program that relocated Sudanese orphans. All my God. It was a happy is feeling. For me, I cannot believe. I didn't go to sleep the next day I went to school I. I told my friends. Yeah She moved to Kansas City. started a life in America. She graduated High School and Started Community College, and then she starts working as a waitress, and then in her late twenty s doing private security. And then, how do you get to Sioux? Falls South Dakota. How you know. I always tell people I moved to Sioux falls for various reason thinking that I find a man, so that was pretty much Reza right there. I I moved in with my youngest son father than we broke up okay. And how did you hear about the Smithfield? Factory for the first time? He actually told me about it because before I moved here. I told him I. Go a month without a job because a lot of people rely on me and most importantly might kits so and that's when he told me there is a company here, Smithfield. And when you're sharing about it, what what where people saying? It was good things Your start. Wages Smithfield was twelve. Ninety five dot is a very good pay. They have healthcare health insurance. So a lot of people came to Sioux falls because of SMITHVILLE. And what it was offering to people. I know a lot of Sudanese families came here because of Smithville. So. When I went and put in my application right in there. They told me Okay you start tomorrow. Well and I started asked. was a night operator. And for someone who's never heard of Smithfield or been to the plant? Can you just walk through? What exactly it is that you guys do their? So Smithfield we. Received live hawks slaughter them. Cut them into pieces what I mean by that by cutting off. Hams leads. We May Bacon. Ham. Even, dogs, cheese dogs, we have. Those are the things we do as Smithville. The entire. Pig that come alive turned into so many things afterwards. And what is a wizard? Is the circle knife that goes into this electric thing, and you turn it off and on, and what does it used for? They use a knife to trim off fat from the line until this. Pretty much all meet. Just meet without fat. So picture, a massive factory floor with giant chance of pork, zooming by on a conveyor belt and shoot any other wizard knife. Operators are responsible for shaving fat off of the meat as it's zooms past them. How many pigs are processed there every day ten thousand or more pick? That's huge. And they're responsible for four to five percent of all the pork that's produced in the United States. So when you first started, what did you think of it? How did it go? What did I think of Smithfield? Hard work. Hard work is what I thought of it, but you're not really thinking of. How hard it is, you are thinking of money. You know and everything that you you know. Once you get the paycheck. You are able to pay for the apartment. You are able to put food on the table. These were the thing that I was thinking. and. What was it like for you physically in the beginning starting out? Once you start doing something for the first time. Something that you're never done. Your muscle is GonNa rejected bodies rejected so I was always sore. I was always. My risk was sore my arm. Will you know when Numb? Though, after work I would come home and put is like on my shoulder on my wrist and then take ibuprofen. That I did that every night. while. Until one day I went to I eight and I talked to the nurse, and the nurse was very very nice out. Go in, and she said you know what I chewed limit. Give you this advice. You know this job is a hot work as severe heart work you've been doing this was a knife were for a year now and yours is hurting your arm. Hurt your shoulder hurt. Our do one job for about a year, but after that sign another job that way you have rotation in your body. So, she takes US advice. And over the next couple of years she starts moving around the factory two different jobs. She eventually becomes a shift lead, and she starts working a lot of overtime usually eleven to twelve hours a day six days a week, but it really pays off and she starts to feel comfortable financially. I get paid eighteen seventy an hour. What does that higher hourly wage meant for Your Life? My Boys, my all three of them. I can give them what I never have. which is a better life at at at a young age? Last year I took them to Disneyworld. That's just something that when I read, there are cried, but I was. It was a tears of happiness. I'm bringing my kids. I am American buy papers. I bring my kids here and that was something I. Did I was so proud of myself? Between the new salary, she's making and the time that she's working. She's able to move into a bigger apartment with her sons, and she's also supporting five family members who are still living in Africa. This job. Offer me to take care for anybody else. Not, just my boys. In Oh. So you're basically supporting nine people on your salary from Smithfield. Yes wow. So, that's why I pick up overtime. Regardless of me being tired. Every morning when I go to work I put everything that the company offered me in order to make sure this food that I'm making doesn't have anything that can go in her and harm someone because you know these these food or going to families is going to children is going to mothers is going to fathers, uncles aunt everyone around the world. Work in the factory. I'm making food for people around the world. I think of that every day. It sounds like you take a lot of pride in your job. Yes, I do. Do you remember the first time you heard about the coronavirus. Yeah I would say it was sometime in January, February. We, just talking about is. Is something that happened in China and is going to stay in China. Then come. The beginning of March. It was Seattle and then the next morning I went to work, and now everybody works is talking about it, but it's still most of us. as refugees, immigrants is like. Is Probably. You know people are maybe just. Being extra about it right now. Maybe it's not that bad. vinings reacted that way. For me personally I'm like okay, if if it becomes to affect on like I've been through so much. It, this is just like a virus. You talked to someone who had malaria. I survived that source like. Okay if like. If it's GonNa, be like malaria. I can go through it. S JUST GONNA BE! Like any other thing that I've been through. But then on Saturday, March twenty first things start to change at Smithfield. When I went to work that morning. my saw a lot of people with Cleaning up the The handrails. Doors bathroom doors with wives, and unlike was going on, and the one of the people told me I This thing is series that shoot. This thing is serious. I'm thinking now, okay? A hundred fifty to one hundred and sixty people in one shift. You sitting in the break room to wear tables very small. You have six people in one table. And then later that day she gets an email. That time was what I receive. An email video from the CEOS Smithfield Co hi I'm Ken Sullivan President and CEO Smithfield foods I'd like to talk to you today about cove in one thousand nine or corona virus clear, so I watched the video from the show about. This virus as Matt coming from food, according to the FDA and CDC, there's no evidence that covid nineteen can be transmitted by food and America need food. Ever family need food we don't want people to. Struggle from. Hunger let alone a virus families. We feed millions of people every day every single day. It's a business with no shortcuts and no days off. Most of our team members worked side-by-side on production lines in our facilities. We can't stay home. We can't telecommute food after all does not get made on the Internet so at our company is is GonNa get shutdown? Were here were always here? We're food company and despite cove in nineteen indeed. We're working around the clock to do what we do best, and that's deliver. responsibly. How did it feel to you? Have your job deemed essential in the middle of pandemic when people all over the country are panicking? You know your work is deemed. Fundamental to keeping the country going. At one point, I was negative about it. At one point, I was like. Wow, do that. Mean my life. Don't matter. And here I am putting my life at risk coming to work because. People around the world need food. But. I said okay. I'm just GonNa have to stay positive. And people if people need food and I'm able to do that for them. Then I'm just GONNA. Put My life to God to protect me and not get sick did USO lobster, just staying home from work and not going in to be honest. I, do not! I was just thinking off. No I need this job. I need to keep working so I could support my family. And it's. Thinking about it now. And hurts. It hurts that you. You didn't think about yourself. Support for the daily comes from T and t presenting the alienist angel of darkness, the all new season of the acclaimed Emmy Award, winning television series at the turn of the twentieth century uncover a dark and sinister trail of death and deceit as an intrepid team of crime solvers reunite to hunt and elusive killer. Daniel Bruhl Luke Evans and Dakota. 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By the end of March hospitals across the country are being overrun by COVID patients, governors start shutting down businesses and ordering people to shelter in their homes, but in South Dakota, there are still only a few cova cases. And shoot is still going to work until Saturday. March twenty eighth. Now Saturday! My superintendents came up around, said about three o'clock, and he said Okay I want to have a meeting. They asked me if I have any fever cough. Shortness of breath and I say no I'm doing I'm doing good. And he said one of the machine operator tested positive. Assay what well, that person I worked with her. That morning i. I will say about fifteen minutes. They said okay well. You got to go home because he had contact with them like. Really you got. I didn't say it out loud, but I'm thinking. They'd being silly. And that's when they told me. You're going to be under quarantine for the next fourteen days. But I'm still going to get paid forty hours. Is that enough for me? Is Not enough for me as a person who? Do all the time. Overtime is like five hundred extra. Five hundred dollars that for me. A covered a lot of things. What do I do? I can't go and get another job, but at that time I was told is just two weeks. So I'm like okay two weeks. I I'll be okay. It's still going to drop me back. One step backward, but I'll be okay. And then Monday night was when I got sick. Monday night I went to bed, feeling okay. I woke up to about two. AM! With this sharp pain on my body is just feel like someone's stabbed me. So you know, I went to the bathroom and I said okay. Maybe if I take a shower, a cold shower is going to be better so I. Turn the water on, and just when the water hit my body, feel like a bunch of rocks was thrown my body. So I turn the what off. I took the towel to dry myself and my skin I just couldn't use. The towel edges my skin hurt. So like okay on frigging out. And then Thursday night. My Body at this point is Soya's Austin. Even walking like I'm pushing myself. I just felt like something heavy. Sit right on my chest. Now the fear relief kicked in because now I'm I'm having problems breathing? I said okay. If it's GONNA. Be Better for me I, I'm going to stay up I. Don't want to sleep. Because if I go to sleep? Chances are going to be. Going to wake up. That's when I left my room. I came to the living room and just sat there because. I said okay, if if I stay in my room and I died. I. Don't want my kids to find me dead in the room. What was that like for you emotionally? I mean what's going through your mind. Right back. To my childhood. To everything that I've been through it life. About my kids if I die. By kids. will go through the same that I've been through. The loneliness. Having antibody, check into like parents. objected. Break this kiss to this world. Survive! Through everything that I went through. A, aside I haven't had a chance to tell them. They don't know that mom. What Bob with through all they know. Is that my mom workaholic? She will do anything to give us. A Better Life. That's all they know. Is Not a perfect world. I'd make it perfect for them. But if I die. Does, world is not perfect more. Sounds like. A horrible horrible night. It was it was it was one of the worst night ever? So while it shoot is at home sick with the coronavirus. The situation at Smithfield is evolving this. Smithfield pork processing plant is now a corona virus hotspot. More and more of her colleagues are falling ill. How many other cases you hear about among your colleagues? Oh a lot a lot a lot I think within the the sausage as community alone. I think we have like at least forty people that I know. But in my department I was told that it went up to eighty in one department. Eight people at how big is your department on a good day that people showed up one hundred and fifty five. The outbreak at that Sioux falls plant is among the worst clusters of corona virus in the country about two hundred fifty workers. They're tested positive for coronavirus. Three hundred fifty workers tested positive for covid nineteen, and as the days pass, it keeps getting worse. The number of cases skyrockets. Up to more than four hundred smithfield workers who are sick. And the governor calls on the head of the company to stop production one of the nation's largest food processors, smithfield foods will close its pork processing plant in south. Dakota for further cleaning Swan April twelfth. The president of Smithfield announces he's going to close the plant indefinitely. An all the workers are sent home this morning. There were fears. The nations food supply chain is a breaking point after more than a dozen major meat processing plants to become covid nineteen hotspots meanwhile food. Food processing plants across the country are getting hit hard with cove in other major companies like Tyson start raising the alarm that they're having trouble producing and delivering food to the nation's grocery stores because of the virus, meanwhile president trump announced executive order to compel meat processing plants to remain open and last week president trump signs an executive order, declaring meat and poultry plants as part of the nation's critical infrastructure as a way to pressure the plants to keep producing food. In Sioux Falls. The plan is still closed. Smithfield says it will continue to pay workers for forty hours a week until they go back to work and it speeding up plans to reopen the plant as quickly as possible, but that's also raised questions about whether it can do so safely. How are you feeling now physically? Physically I feel I. Feel I feel good. I'm still having a little bit of headache. But you know that's life almost an everyday when you are Bob and you know Zalm not freaking out over it. But my favorite. This wanted a steel Honda. I have no idea why. I'm just trying to get it down to like nine denied least before I call my doctor to go for check in. But. I cannot afford to stay home for a long time. I would give myself a month. And if it goes after four weeks, No. It wouldn't be good for me at all. It sounds like as soon as you start feeling better. Your focus goes from your health back to your finances. Yes, that is correct. So now my focus is to try to take care of myself as possible to wear. When this company opened back up than I'm ready to go, so that's where my focus is. A to. Thank you so much for talking to us about your experience? You're welcome and thank you very much. For at least giving me the. The voice. Of A lot of people don't understand the living the refugee cam. I don't take anything for granted. Because of what I been through. As like and because of what I see happening to other kids. That did not make it. But Persia they are looking over me. They are watching me and. I'm going to make the proud. Shortly after we spoke with a chewed, the Smithfield plant reopened and she returned to work. The. Plant has introduced several new safety precautions including personal protective equipment. plexiglass barriers and onsite testing for the coronavirus. A federal investigation into the original conditions at the plant, which began in May continues. But. Smithfield has taken an aggressive approach to the inquiry. When the US occupational safety and Health Administration sought health records related to the plant from South Dakota's government. smithfield sought to quash the requests in court. After hearing from dozens of daily listeners. A shoot has begun to see her experience in a New Light. And now recognizes the power of her voice She's thinking about writing a book. 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Dave Archambault II

Future Hindsight

28:53 min | 1 year ago

Dave Archambault II

"There's a podcast, I think our listeners would want to know about. It's called seen on radio. The show has received much acclaim for its deep and engaging dives into the history, and the very structure of American society. How can we see society more clearly so he can be more effective in changing it seen on radios to recent documentary series seeing white and men have explored racism and sexism in I opening ways checkout seen on radio? That's S C E N E on radio from the center for documentary studies and PR X, welcome to future. Hindsight. I'm meal at moss. How can protest help us protect our communities. That's the question for our on future. Hindsight today. Dave Archambault bolt. The second. He's a former tribal, chairman of the standing rock Sioux tribe, in North Dakota and was instrumental in the Dakota Access pipeline protests in two thousand and sixteen. He's currently senior fellow at the university of Colorado, first peoples worldwide project, which is run under the American Indian law program and Leeds business school. Dave was elected tribal chairman in October two thousand and thirteen and have the opportunity to meet with President Obama at that time because his sister worked at the White House when he met the president. He asked him to not sign off on the keystone access pipeline that was meant to start from the tar sands in Canada. And go to ancestral homelands of the great Sioux nation and for this reason among others to president did not sign off, but shortly thereafter, the Dakota Access pipeline was proposed and much to surprise the scoping and planning had already been done by the time the tribe heard about it through the tribal historic preservation office. Dave immediately went to work and started the conversation. But the army corps of engineers, requiring them to abide by the laws and engage in meaningful consultation that didn't happen, the leadership of the SU nation and the leadership of the. Corps of engineers, did not meet in fact, the army corps of engineers approved and released a draft environmental assessment. At this time Dave discovers that the pipeline is less than five hundred feet from his nation and crossing underneath, the Missouri river. It crosses through ancestral and treaty lands and areas with sacred significance. In other words, the su- nation was absolutely ignored and response. They started making the rounds in Washington DC. They met with the department of energy, the department of interior, the US army civil work. They advisory council historic preservation the EPA and finally, the army corps of engineers, they advocated from two thousand fourteen to January two thousand and sixteen to no avail the word at that time was that the pipeline was coming through at a local district meeting, Dave show, the community all that he had done in Washington. But since it clearly didn't look like it was enough. Some of those. Who attended the meeting decided to have a ceremony to ask the spirits, what they can do in the ceremony. The spirit said with peace and prayer you'll stop the pipeline with violence and war. The pipeline will go underneath the river. So from that moment on, there was a spirit camp to pray. Young tribal members walked across the Missouri river and mobile, South Dakota in protests and asked to be heard. They delivered a letter to the US army corps of engineers, an Omaha Nebraska. They started a national campaign on social media called res- pecked, our water. Then they put together a petition of one hundred and sixty thousand for the army corps of engineers in Washington again, asking them not to permit this pipeline because it threatens their future, the environment and their sacred places in July of two thousand sixteen despite all their efforts, the corps of engineers, approved of the environmental assessment and initiated a preconstruction notice a few weeks later, and that's when everything began to escalate and the beginning there were maybe one hundred protesters at the construction site and law enforcement was there. Slowly. The crowds started growing in August. There was a rumor that the construction crew hit. Some sacred bones and a commotion started when Dave saw woman walked behind the police line standing on the road as she was trying to stop construction trucks coming down. He went over to help her. That's when he was arrested strip searched and thrown in jail. When Dave got out of jail. The spirit camp began to grow truly fast here, he tells us how it started to snowball after my rest ahead of chairman. Call me from China oversee tribes saying that we're bringing in two hundred people tomorrow, and then I had another chairman from the Oglala Sioux tribe. Call and say, we're bringing bus with three hundred people so overnight this begin to blossom and grow and there's no way to control or manage something when it gets so big days felt like weeks, weeks felt like months months felt like years. There's so much going on, and there's no way he can organize. There's no way you can control something that girls that fast. So it was organic and took the life of its own. And I give the credit for the protests to our youth to get everybody in gauged including Allders middle age. It's when they start to speak up. That's when people start to come together and get engaged. It sounds like the youth really started to mobilize your community, and I think that's not covered very much in the traditional media moa. Happen to if you were to talk to the youth. That would say our movement hijack. And we stayed consistent with our message with the tribe, we wanna be peaceful and purple stance. We welcome. And we think everybody supporting with them to come and we're going to try to accommodate as we can. But we ask for things. No alcohol. No drugs, no weapons, violence and come in prayer. And when that was happening, it was one of the most surreal, powerful things that anybody could imagine, like an words can explain. But I think everybody who was partaking at the moment. News that there was something special happening. So when it was hijacked what happened when you have ten thousand people, and you have over a dozen different organizations with their intent their purpose. Everybody is going to go in different directions. And sometimes it's not always the same intent as the local people had initiated are started. There were different incentives for different organizations, right? It's difficult to have one United front when you have people coming from all over, and everybody has maybe a slightly different agenda from each other in terms of organization, organization. Although it sounds like the impetus for the influx of all of the support that you received was your arrest MO think it was the impetus for everything. I just think that. The Boston vintage thing that was, I think, spiritual and significant. How important was that stand together camp together pray together? It's very important for any movement, and I call it a movement for you have protests. And then you have movements, and when there's a movement is a catalyst for something to change in the future. You don't know when that change is going to happen. Then if we were to look back fifty years from now, we could see it was inevitable. The way that this government has treated indigenous peoples in this nation has been said it's been disrespectful, and it only got worse and the fossil fuel industry praise on areas where they can take advantage before starting to say our voices need to be heard. When something's not fair and it's inevitable that happened within Indian country because of all the wrongs that have been committed to our nation's. It's. No different than a hundred years ago. No different than tune in years. And it's not something that happened in the past. It's something that continues to happen, and this nation, we would say is a traitor, who is allowed to continue to the same crimes and its perpetrator because of the way the laws are written and the laws, protect fossil fuel industries, whenever they come to encroach on our human rights, and our environmental rights are indigenous rights that just so happen that happened standing rock. Well, I was the chairman of the tribe that leads me to another point where how did I become the chairman of the tribe? Tell us more about that. I grew up in Indian country. My dad was educated. My mom was educator. I was fortunate to have two parents, I lived on the pine ridge in the nerves vision, I lived on the standing rock Indian reservation so as I'm coming to a point where I have to make my own decisions I have my own responsibilities. My intent is to do something so that I can help our people. And so I become an advocate for people, and have become someone who wants to do things to set example, so others can follow, like got my education, and I started a business. It was the first business on standing rock those owned by a tribal member. I also worked were sitting we'll college teaching a business administration, students helping entrepreneurs and working on workforce development because of those three things I was able to see the environment that was there that wasn't helping business development and took me was to tribal politics. I became a tribal council, and I came in with my eyebrows wide open and excited saying, we're going to make a difference, but it's seventeen other members on the tribal council with different agendas, and it's not always easy to create change way. And so what I left after four years. My eyebrows were touching because I was frustrated. And then I thought, well, maybe chairman can change. And even if I don't get elected at least I can say tried, and so, I ran for tribal chairman in got elected. This is important because I consider myself an advocate for my nation for my community of consider myself advocate for my family trying to create a better environment for everybody that lives in that local spot and being an advocate role as tribal government, trouble, chairman, we tried to change laws policies during relations the rules, so that it's better for our membership. It's slow moving and takes decades before things can make change naked difference on the Ila site. You have activists who are doing the same thing, but they are doing in defiance of government, and they have a common cause whatever that caused maybe an that cause is national, and it's, it's at a macro. Title. But when you have an advocate, and you have an activist come together. Like what happened standing rock? When we come together elevates, Mike costs and their cause our causes are raised and advocates and activists look, don't always see the same thing. A lot of times activists are protesting against advocates protesting against the government. But in this case, we came together, and then when the bent this movement, and this moment in time and. We separating it activists and advocates are apart. And we slowly are trying to make a difference in our own we'll house. So looking back on this experience from working together with activists at that time at standing rock Motte was in your mind, your most salient learning that you're carrying with you now. It was easy when we first started because we knew exactly who are up against. We were up against the federal government. We're up against our state representatives congressman and the two senators we're up against the governor of North Dakota. We're up against the oil industry, extractive industry, the pipeline industry unions that you're trying to stop jobs. But we weren't trying to argue with unions, the other thing that we realize that the laws are flawed, so we're up against the federal laws and who makes the federal laws. It's congress. But where did they get the direction they get their direction from industry from corporations and they're incentivized by money? And so it's safe to say the coke brothers are the ones who influenced the way laws are created so that it benefits the extractive industry, where able and we're. We're willing to go up against something like that. And we were successful in December two thousand sixteen so under the Obama administration, they said, yes, we need to stop pump on breaks. We're not going to permit this Intel we do an environmental impact statement, which was a huge victory for us because then we will be able to demonstrate everything that had happened to our nation's every time infrastructure project encroaches on our homelands. So that was huge. It was big. But then it was at this point that President Trump was elected into office and within one week, everything changed. He signed a presidential memorandum to state that the environmental assessment will suffice to move forward with a pipeline, which it did. I should note here that an environmental assessment is something that we can assess by look. At the environment. It's like saying disguise blue an environmental impact statement is something else entirely, which is the thing that the tribal nations were looking for an environmental impact statement is actually deep study about how the environment will be impacted by any project at this point. Dave's personal reputation took a big hit as he'll explain here, when things go the way they were supposed to the blame comes by and was accused of having a house in Florida, getting thirty million having a house and Bismarck. All these false accusations were coming up and enacted. Honestly, say that I never benefited in one way from this movement. And I never wanted anything. A dime out of this night state clear of any resources that would come in and loud, our tribal council to make the decisions on what to do with the resources. So it wasn't to gain anything only to protect our future generations in our sacred places. What is the most important? Takeaway. I got from this movement the events that happen that Steiner Afghan, and that is to stay grounded. No matter what. And when things are not good. You always have your family. You are super passionate about indigenous rights and the rights of the nations. And clearly you have not stopped your work there. And you're working at the university of Colorado what does the word that you do that advances the rights and the treaties and the heritage? Really? So it was interesting. The reason why university Colorado came in during the protests by probably was approached by a hundred different legal experts. They would come and say, this is how you stop the pipeline and not all of them were legitimate. And so we were working with the American Indian law program at university, Colorado, and using the law students to actually vet any ideas, which was really helpful. The other component was Rebecca Adamson had started a program nonprofit. Project about ten years prior. And it was called first peoples worldwide and what they did was. They encouraged free prior informed consent around the world with indigenous peoples when they're resources were being threatened. They also did a lot of work with vestment. And so, when we started the work with them, they had blueprint on how to approach financial institutions banks, and they had training on the rights, that we have we worked with them in trying to get in touch with all the banks that were invested in the code access pipeline. I think we had thirteen those banks get on the phone, and we would give monthly updates on what's happening to the banks. We ask them to divest and three of them withdrew and divested. And these three banks are from other countries, none of the US banks. Withdrew but that work is very important and that what it is engaging corporations with indigenous communities when these two don't engage. There's a potential social costs. And if you ignore the social costs, it's going to escalate the financial risks for not company. But the, the shareholders of the financial institutions, and I was able to come on and, and as a senior, fellow and continue to help that work of investment building awareness for investors in and building capacity for tribes on how to engage with companies and not only that, but look at shareholder advocacy. Everybody pays attention environment and everybody pays attention to the government. But a lot of times the social cost is ignored. And so we did a study on the code access pipeline. We lift what was the stock price of transfer partners prior to August two thousand sixteen. What was the average for standards importers of S and P five hundred? And then at the end of everything. Whereas SNP and is E P T and they lost twenty percent. And I remember meeting with the code access pipeline company joy Mohammed. And I said, you know, we're going to resist this and he said that comes with the territory. We built pipelines all the time as part of the business, we're gonna meet resistance, and I shared our history of infrastructure projects, and affects that has honor, tribal nations, and Mark people. Then he gave me an overview, saying you have nothing to worry about because those pipes going to be thirty five inches. And I am going to have three fourth quarter inch, the quality is going to be ninety feet below the river. We both share information with each other. And then when our way a year later, I meet with energy transfer partners, the parent company of the class, like plan CEO Kelsey warm, and I share the same information with him. And he says, if I've new this year ago, we wouldn't be in the situation if we engage with the right people, the head of the companies the decision makers if we engage with the shareholders are the financial institution early, then there's a better understanding on both sides and some infrastructure projects may be welcomed by tribal, her are indigenous peoples and some may not. But neither side should wait until it's too late and tellers too much investment. It's trying to address the ignorance that exists and the problem with this whole scenario is that corporations have the resources. So when they went to engage Bill do it where tribal nations don't have the, the resources. They don't have the capacity. So we want to build that up and level the playing field. So that both understand what's happening. That sounds preventing the, you have just told me that you have done any meant amount of work in Washington, and with the corporations with that tribal nations, and I think, none of that really comes through very clearly when you look at any of the articles that you read or footage that you see about the peak of the protests at the Dakota Access pipeline, and it's really fascinating because you're giving me a huge hole picture. That is so comprehensive and holistic that none of us know about, or at least it's very difficult to find. So for people in the United States, non native Americans, what would you like to say to the audience that would get them engaged in having? Better relations with India nations. And also protect your rights. You know, I think it's happening organically, I think there is interest in indigenous peoples and the concepts and philosophies that have been shared with us through our ancestors until, and it's so simple. The stance standing rock was for water. Everybody can relate everybody in the whole world could relate because without it. So. The concept and, and the philosophies and the reality is something that we had for ever, and it's so basic and we try to complicate things we try to use science. But if you into indigenous communities and you and you start to pay attention to the way things are still basic the so, so simple and an our culture if we were to look out can't do it here because we're New York City, I can't see anything, but if I was at home, and I looked out the window when I would see is the prairie and if you see the prairie if you see movement would say, Dr Scott or something there, and that means that whatever's there when that moves it has knock has a spirit has a soul has a life. And if it has a soul and the spirit and life than another word is doc. Yes, that means that we are all. Related to everything moves everything that has a spirit, and we should treat them with respect and everything has a spirit needs. Four things in order for it till a needs. The sun, the needs to earth and needs the air, and it needs water. Those are the four elements that are in every indigenous community ceremony. Now, if you were to, to say, let's look at a infrastructure project, where we are going to take this resource say water, and we're going to develop project with, that's the problem is, would you call your mother, a resource are, would you call her source of life? She brought you here and she cares for you. That's the same relationship. So if you start to think about water as not a resource, but a source of life. Than the mix the most sense that you respect it, and it can still be used in the project, but with respect, and we don't abuse it in their communities have been saying this to everybody for last hundred years. But nobody's listening. But now. It's necessary. If it standing up against the pipeline because waters, lie, it's necessary, and everybody has to come together and agree to. Well on that note looking into the future. What makes you hopeful? I see a lot of technology involving to where we can get away from fossil fuels. The way solar with both the sun can offer the same amount of electricity, that oil can the way that the wind blowing can offer the same amount electrically. And there's other new technologies that are coming that are not perfect yet, but are on their way, they'll pick this into another era, but I'm just hoping it's not too late. I did too. Thank you. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you for your leadership, and thank you for showing us how to do this. We will. I was so surprised to discover all of the steps that the SU nation had undertaken before the Dakota Access pipeline protest made the front pages. I was although surprised to learn about the varying factions who showed up at the camp in the end each with a different agenda. And finally, how frustrating it must have been to be an elected leader in this case tribal chairman despite having engaged in the full breadth of advocacy, for his constituents at the same time, I was so excited by learning about the spiritual aspect that Dave Artem bolt described everything was, so inspirational, and so ideally, stick, just in the retelling, I could feel the movement as being a change agent for the future, the remaining questions that I have are about our attitudes towards Indian nations. When will we stop breaking treaties? Against Indian nations. When will we actually recognize the rights of the indigenous? I wonder what it will take if you want to take action for indigenous rights, and save water. Go to our website future. Hindsight dot com for more information. Is the end of protests, as we know it the beginning of our future on the next episode of future. Hindsight, our guest is mica white. He's a lifelong activist who co created Occupy Wall street, a global social movement, that's to eighty two countries. While also an editor at at busters magazine. He's the author of the end of protests in new playbook for revolution. And also the co founder of activists graduate school, an online school taught by and for experienced activists, obviously, we did a lot of great things we kicked off a whole wave of social unrest. We trained a whole new generation of activists made protests, cool again, it was constructed failure in the sense that, it, it did teach us something about the limitations of contemporary protests. And I think that activists can learn from the failure of Occupy Wall street, and they can use that knowledge to kind of make protests work again until next time. I'm Neil atmos-. Thank you for listening to future hindsight, the executive producer and host of this program is meal, atmos-, the audio producer in composer, is Peter fader. 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Hour 3: The Club

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: The Club

"The Dan Libertad Woodstock. Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the Capital, One saver card or four percent cashback on dining entertainment, ju- percent, a grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases. Now when you go out you cash, what's in your wallet terms apply? Mike. Ryan is told me that we cannot get the sound to Damian Lillard coming back with distracts at Marvin. Bagley who said on I take that he had bars for Damian Lillard now forgive me for sounding this old and ridiculous saying these things. But I thought that what Lillard did a was well done because Lillard is reputed in these circles, these guys, man. We've been talking about this. You remember the original sui sound came because Kobe Bryant tried to be a rapper and he tried to wrap in talian Mike. We have that sound cleared of Kobe, Brian, wrapping in Italian because this goes back aways with us where we laugh about a guys making their way into hip hop from Shad tried it for years. Try for years to make it into hip hop. But. Damian Lillard I'm being told is legitimately good. He is good member George Karl criticized him for spending, too much time on his music and not enough time on his basketball game. I don't remember that does that. So it was around that time or car was taken everyone out. Oh, that's right. You're selling a book. I remember that time Gary, put it on the poll, do you miss that time when George Karl was wandering around taking everyone out. That's right. That's a good way to describe that era of basketball coverage content factory. It was like six weeks of George Karl just wandering around saying stuff to sell a book. Such a glorious time really. But he was just saying loud old man things like concentrate on your Dame instead of your music, there were like five or six things he said that had us talking for months. It was it was it was glorious ties like super awkward with him in the king's like everyone knew that he was going to get fired. But they didn't fire him for like three months, and he just kept showing up to work, but Mike, how do you feel first of all, we're all here for these guys going back and forth this way, right? Because distracts are the interviews you wish they did. The NBA gives us a lot of this drama, guys. Don't like each other. What's going on with Chris Paul and James harden, and all the soap opera stuff? But I love the idea of handling things this way between rapper. But where Mike how bad was? The burial Lillard always got bars Lillard ahead an album that was legitimately good. You doesn't sound like an athlete trying to wrap. He sounds like a rapper who also just happens to play basketball Damian Lillard. So, yeah. You don't want that smoke. You don't wanna come at Damian Lillard Lewis. A one guy the one guy you don't wanna come at. No, in terms of like being able to talk trash back like he can lay down a track. That's a lot worse than just doing something on the court to somebody lives forever. Attractive people will listen to actually write and enjoy a live forever. Right. You're right. But also, Damian rule number one in hip, hop battles, and hip hop Eve's, don't beef down. This is a beef down. It is. It's a beatdown but it's a beef down. Yeah. But who else who else is going to come after him who's appear who's gonna come after him? But I mean you can't respond to Marvin Bagley. Right. You just can't do it. It's gotta be someone who's. Die. Like this is what Damian Lillard would like to do. He would like every guy in the NBA to come at him with rhymes. But I think he just ended the game the way he handled Bagley. Better. You gotta be better than Bagley. You gotta be more confident than than Bagley. Bagley Bagley started this man he went on I take. And he challenged Damian Lillard. So what does the countermeasure Billy do you care about any of this nonsense? No. Not really. Max, by the way, is the one that's to blame for all of this max really. Got this beef started, like we have this out of max, essentially leading him on and getting him to talk crap which led to this whole battle. You know, max is a frustrated rapper max. There is a there is all over the net. Yes, you know, this, do you not? There's a video max Kellerman is done a rap video that we will also not have the sound too, because there are a lot of sound restrictions around here in ways that are suffering. But you know what? We are allowed to play. Thanks. I take Roy Jones who was a colleague of mine at eight zero boxing, played at me a clip of you free styling in the hallway. And it has been my opinion since then that the best stems see in the NBA is either you or Damian Lillard, but who is the best MC in the NBA. Me me, man. I love music. I love music go myself, would you ever battle Damian? Lillard. Yeah. For sure. Damian Lillard would accept that battle you do it here on. I take I take whatever whatever man. I'm whatever. I'll make music is a love. So we, we can, we can see Billy, Chris, what, whatever, whatever man, I mean. Yes. Double negative Mexico to talk to mino- most anything at that point pretty much. Okay. But so, so the response from Lillard was to simply a nuke Marvin Bagley for that for whatever whatever about Bagley make the playoffs as that's a did. He make the all rookie team. I'd have Damian Lillard when a game in the Western Conference finals beef and down. That's how he's spending too much dominance. Rap career not enough time at a basketball game about that. I'm gonna Carl. Why did you say? How about that seventeen times there? So my I wanna play this Lillard sound I what do I need to do? We wanna play by now. Can't play the Kobe's. We can't play the Damian Lillard sound song, you want to feel for what, what is the cost if they were doing a radio show, pay for the Lillard song. What does what does it what does it cost to pay for the Lillard song, so that we can play it for the audience, and they don't have to do their own work on the internet? It's astronomical. All right. All right. Do me a favor. Billy, this is what I would like to do. Okay. I would like for you to print out these words, and somebody around here is just going to read, what Damian Lillard said said in order to nuke Marvin Bagley so that I can get a payoff from this story where we work for the worldwide leader in sports, and we can't pay for a sound to get cleared. You have done this to yourself. Good, sir. They'll get a payoff because you want to desperately play a sound that you've known for several hours. We cannot because I'm tired of you saying no to sounds around here is, if we don't have a budget and can't afford anything you can't afford it. It's like forty seven dollars. Tell me what it caused a plane Damian, Lillard sound so that I can get the payoff on a national radio show that the biggest one in America, it's got more reach digitally, and on more radio stations than any in America for sports. Why is it that we can't get some damn sound to play for the audience? So I could get a payoff on my segment on a Thursday when there's nothing to talk about how high, but we need to set the price for you to back off and say, no how high is there any amount? I mean how also today's Friday. Yeah, it is. That's a big fun play it on the show. And why others work and tell me what it is. No, the fine camping I want to know what it costs either. Find out for me what it costs. Or somebody read the Lear. Yes. Yup. It could cost us our John whose jobs. What mine? How many jobs in my costing I might be willing to take the chance. Okay. Thanks, because I'm tired of us not being able to play any sounds around here the way we were able to play him when we were just a local show. We were screwing around any sounds like this is a week in which you've got Brett holes Gloria. So your point is my job save. Yeah. You should be able to survive. It. Downs bump it stands. You guys come back with something funny. I want somebody reedmen, I want something some Lillard words, Marvin Bagley something. It's the weekend or Thursdays. I like to call it. Weekend should start an Thursday, though. Don't you agree? They should technically. You're right. Go into the weekend. Looking good and let Dollar Shave Club help you. I like Billy's idea of just playing it to start the next segment having a nervous breakdown. Stugatz here. We all love night out, whether it's seeing our favorite band in person or being there in the grad that you're on our favorite team with vivid seats. 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A memory that lasts a lifetime and let vivid seats help you get to your favorite live events. Donlevatar texture rights in does ESPN brass, listen to the show. They can't stugatz how could this possibly continue in a prime spot for this long? It's just truly awful radio. VC's live at our show with this Stu gods on ESPN radio, which of the two did you like more on the recent episode of stupidity? Was it your, your engagement speech to field Yates or was it your smoke break with Mikey? See, I mean the smoke break with Mikey. See Amina calms is it's just amazing. It's so cringe-worthy Amina is such a good sport and Mike. You see is so bad, all of it, just collectively as fantastic. So, I guess I'd go with that. All right. So go ahead and check out stupidity at your convenience. If you like you can. Download it on all your devices stupidity is to God's doing a lot of things differently than he would normally do them, but mostly the, the most prevailing theme. And all this departed, he's is that others at ESPN are doing the work for him. He is. He is spinning ESPN on his finger and having every corner of the ESPN universe, creating all the relationships is going to need when he conquered the place, Mike, like he's, he's spreading it out. He's using every toys in the toy department on stupidity and he's getting ESPN to work for him. Now it's my podcast and is right. And in terms of who has made the most appearances on my podcast. One is Meena to is Mike Golic junior on third. Third, mike. You see is closing in on being third, and I'll be bumped a fourth, but there are people who don't host that podcast to do with it who've appeared on the podcast. More than I have. But Stu gods continues to just ask everyone who runs into my Adam gays. He has Hankas area will you be a game show host for me. Like he is not afraid to perpetually. You guys tell me in your audience, I, Kenny G serenade, my wife Valentine's Day, you have been doing this for years, since back, since you're calling nNcholas shae, you're calling your wife with Nicklaus shea, you will always make asks, you will force someone to say, no, you will just roll out shameless. Ask after shameless s and my, here's the thing I do believe that the people that he has peon are enjoying bathing in this do God's army enjoying their time with stugatz as the shows. Court jester because I do believe that. But Stu gods is absolutely using you people. For better content. I mean that's all I got a great idea for the studio would game. I'm gonna have who knows their hosts better at it's gonna be you. And Dan, Patrick at it's going to be the shipping container versus the danettes. It's going to be an episode, where I don't appear at all that it's great. I why were the words your podcast exists inconvenience others? Don't have time for this. I don't have time to do your podcast. I mean my platform is your outlet for this. The danettes. Definitely have already reset the Pauly's again. Wait, they're excited. Fritzy, all the boys seating. Mike. He's trying to put together a podcast where he doesn't even have to show and it's a great opportunity for them. You would agree. Right. It's like smoking mirrors with him in the Mike. How has he gotten so good? You know how? Onto to compose the greatest evolution of that game. You know, in terms of size and speed and everything else, how is Stu gods evolved? So much as a greedy, shameless creature. That he's arrived in a point where he feels totally comfortable totally comfortable entitled to all of ESPN doing his job for him. So it's calling Jay Bilas Bilas could have said, no, I know. But no nobody says. No. He's using the entire network to do his job for him. What are you talking about? He could have said no Bill Simmons. It's been saying no to you for weeks. And you took two minutes out of the interview time to just complain directly to them about why he's not doing your job. Listen, I took an hour of my time to go on Simmons's podcast at a time, where he really wanted me and on the podcasts, he's able to do a home and home that means he comes on my podcast. And so I'm trying to cash in. That's all. And, and he kept I got the feeling that is pushing me off to log is no one wants to hear from Simmons in August, you have Simmons right now, you of all people to be upset at someone pushing something, my listen. This is a true story. All right. This is a true story. I'm still waiting for your vacation time of vacation. That's coming next week off a couple of days next week Monday Tuesday, but I'll be working stupidity. Yeah, I ready heard the new scam. That's what I'm going to reinstate a Monday. Book vacation hope man. If you're doing see potted. Oh, yeah. Or built Simmons is doing and for you, Mike. This is a true story, not making this up. You are a snake. You're a weasel European feces. That's not nice to say a Mike. And so this is true when I'm going to say to you, and this is very much gods. And I don't know how he gets away with being charming, when he's this kind of despicable. Okay. No, no. This happened. This was in this studio. Right. This tight space and stuff and some stugatz friends came in and the fa friends came in with family, and they came with children, and they just kept asking for pictures for pictures for pictures for pictures. And then one of them actually said to me four hours before my father was doing here. Can you call your dad and have him come in for us right now? So we can take pictures with him. And I'm like, no, I can't really do that to God's still got to get your friends out of here. And he was proud of them, because he was like, yeah, Dan, you. You keep asking for stuff until you get the no you, you just keep asking for stuff until like because there are some people who will bring their father and evidently, and then there'd be another set of ass. And the reasons to God's knows it is because he is it. I was up in them behind the scenes. That's why I'm surprised. He still hasn't done Sioux Falls because the person behind the Stu gods. Stay in Sioux Falls is Stu gods. Not taking no for an answer. Trying to deliver on all these insane ask and no one's actually really vetting if he can get your private plane. But he says he can and yet at every turn even after saying, you could golf with John Daly, you're still saying, no, I am him and his father in law here, and they want to play golf with me. It wasn't enough that I went on his radio show, did a twenty five minute interview which was glorious, by the way. Okay, did it. And then right after we hung up. He said, hey, my father in law, and I are coming, dad. I've told them several times stop coming here in July. I mean, it's a hundred thousand degrees outside, but he came anyway he asked me play golf now today. Now, listen between us. Okay. They're in the other room. So I'm just telling you I'm going to bring him in here in New York which I next week. But I told him I was going today and I'm not leaving till tomorrow. I'm going, I am going to bring them in here. Next segment. Mike. I'm going to bring them into the studio and I'm going to ask them questions because stugatz has been so slimy with this she'll it is record breaking stugatz. Liming. So there's a guy who said, health wrote it extra ten thousand dollars in Sioux Falls, and he said for every day decline it goes down. One hundred dollars I went on their radio station. And I said, listen, this will seal the deal because we were down to like thirty eight hundred dollars. I said, you call that guy and not only do you get it back up to ten thousand dollars. You go higher. You get it to twenty thousand dollars and the deal is done, and I told them I will give him a fifteen percent commission on every dollar. He gets me over ten thousand dollars that I may ten thousand one dollars. He gets fifteen cents, how long have you been putting off? So God stay in South Dakota five years. Yeah. And you're complaining about Bill Simmons. Keeping you waiting for a couple of weeks. My are you listening, though to Stu gods? When he starts to just foam at the mouth with sort of defending himself against. I lies no one has yet accused him of like these guys are about to come into the studio. And they're gonna give us all the slimy dealings with stugotz as he continues to try to negotiate up here on something that is unbecoming for anyone who works at this network. No golfing them. I mean I did offer to set them up on their own without me playing. My strategy was I'd set them up one I would play ten. So I'm on the back. But there on the front they never see me. They think I'm in New York, stupidity donlevatar never gonna stop what I am, and I'm forty four years old. I ain't Shange of stugatz changed now. It's worked here. I am. That next to you, filthy, rich, these days, live at our show with as to God's own ESPN radio. We will open up the club at the end of the hour here and send you into the weekend. But for those of you not familiar with Stu gods. His back story he is greasy. He is fraudulent and he is a well-paid and greedy. Well, thank you, Dan. And so two gods has managed par lay all of his success into Sioux Falls, trying very badly to get him to come up there for a day. Yep. Zach last time you were on with us. You told us that you gave us all the details. All the back story on this in a way that was very efficient. How can you catch the audience up on where everything stands with these negotiations with Stu? That's a fine, by the way. It's Jeff not exactly. But it's okay, it's okay, I've always wanted to say that, well, first of all, it's an honor in my life, there's a lot of things. I try to do raise a couple of kids, do some things. But at the end of the day, this is sort of my mission. And we, we are to the point where we are doing whatever possible even increasing the value of this, this young man named Zack who's trying to pay him. Ten grand to come up. Yeah. Stugatz has that up to probably twenty by now? Well, yeah, what I told you, I think he has it down to four. You need to get back up to fifteen or twenty I cut in and then we have we have Stu falls, get me up over fifteen percent though. Because last time you told me, you know, twenty anything you get me over ten we'll give you twenty percent twenty villi. What kind of experience? Do you have with Stu gods? Verbal contracts. Like does that mean anything? I mean absolutely. No. That was written one too. Yeah. So let's let's let's get everybody caught up private jet. Still in play key to the city. Still in play. John daly. We'll get an exemption into the Sanford international if stugatz comes up, otherwise, John Daly, ain't plan. Right. And then we also have let me think about this for a second, that tournament is going to have Jack nNcholas, they're really. So of Jack nNcholas can come play nine holes. You'd think stugatz could make him with Jack the Golden Bear I mean have other. Wow. Now you wanna play with Jack. That'd be nice. So Jack, Jack Jack, you might get me without the money. I might you might. I'm not saying definitely, but you might have preferred Jack and the money. But I mean there's something there. All right. So we got that we got a private detail was security involved. There is a limo the entire time. I mean, what, what else did we have involved in that I think that was probably about the extent of it, you're working on the weather? Right. And you wanted a parade to so the parade part of it was something I didn't think that we can actually get done. But you know what we, you know, we're all about parades now in Sioux Falls. So we'll start a G league game that you said that. Well, yeah, if you want to play for the for the, the G league affiliate of the Miami Heat, the Sufa sky forest, I have you run that by their coach me start. You know, that's, that's a formality. That's a formality. So I'm not too worried about hilly. Billy tells Zack how pathetic you think he is Zack. Yes. Zach at the Super Bowl. Zach interviewed me for his radio show. And I said, listen Zach you're nice guy, but this is never going to happen. Like you're really need to start doing this. And this was like, what four? Four five months ago. Yeah, we've increased everything though. So, I feel like I have a better chance now Italian, you nine with the Golden Bear. And, and get this thing up to fifteen twenty thousand from Zach. Yes, right. From, from the real, the real the real kids with one of the way, I don't got that kind of going to lay. All right. So where are we on this where where where are never going to happen? I just told you how it happens. I just told you the Golden Bear nine holes, and we get it back up the fifteen Graham would Don right? Avid done Mike, is that a formal proposal you have in your hands. That's a contract as a formal proposal with venues. And I mean contracts come on. What's the matter with you? Does it have does it have Jack nNcholas his name on there, anywhere? Okay. Dawson, have the Golden Bear came with. That was my bombshell. When I came here, we got a cross out daily and we put in nNcholas than we, both initial it. Okay. I mean you want tiger up there, too. Sure, Mike is this ever going to happen? Yep. Now has a chance. This is the closest we've ever been Zach Lowe since we've ever been I thought for sure a private plane was the last of your, you literally have a health company that deals with life and death willing to take time out of their life to fly jet down here to get, you Sanford, Sanford, great people. Dan's a life lesson. I've tried to teach you over the years, okay? Once you get exactly what you want you ask for a little more. All right. Exactly. Get out of here. I, I don't like you contributing this madness eighteen holes with a Golden Bear. We're Donald sign anything. By the way, I gotta say this real quick. I feel like we're investing in crypto currency here with stugatz like he is the bitcoin of humans. And I just feel like at the end of the day, there's some value here. We don't know what the value is. But that value might be really big. And it might be really small, we might end up with nothing at the end of the day, just holding our pants and no money in the pockets, you have whatever explanations, you have for me. I will let you down appreciate what I get out of here Zach. We will disappoint you on. Thank you for all of your contributions to this enabling of this greasy foul Berman. Zach is me Zach. We, we speak the same language. All right. Mike. God, do you have a beat for me a random totally random ESPN Tenny band beat so that Stu gods? Can now Damian Lillard went after Marvin Bagley when he came out and with bars and these are the actual lyrics. We are going to have stugatz read the lyrics of Damian Lillard being directed at Marvin Bagley. Are you ready? Yeah. We got a royalty free beat. Have you decided on a flow here? Sue guy. What's, yeah. You've got the lyrics right there. Transcribe I, I didn't hear line by line Damian's, and it's very small thoughts. I mean a little bit nervous come on your own on. Do you not have glasses or anything or are you going to be able to read that then that's not the problem me singing? It's you, wrapping this is the debut, the maiden voyage of stugatz wrapping as Damian Lillard. These are actually Daming Damian Lillard lyrics directed at Marvin Bagley after max Kellerman badgered. Marvin Bagley into challenge that it didn't seem Marvin Bagley wanted. Oh. Voice Nair my headphones. Beds only like. Need to hurry up too much not enough. Oh. Bring it back bigger back rewind. No. Another one. I hope the king learned his lesson. It's a bad investment. You're just reading you have to do it like a hip hop. Boy, y'all. I never cracked in the moment you made a bet assessment little boys, get excited. Make tragic exit. I had respect for the movement. But you were really sadly, desperate terrible flow. I wasn't measuring your music. I was measuring Grammy's. But when you separate my yard, I'm apparently Stanley, I feel bad, because you kit and taken your candy, this, the live, ry. It's the kid who them. The body drought. I baby getting potty trade don't body wash. I think you finally to find your voice. Don't Bobby wash it says, what? You read it as wash Joe, you wrote them afloat. I hope the king learned his lesson. It's a bad investment. I never crack in the moment you need a Umeda, bad assessment, little void get it. Cited make tragic exit. I had respect for the movement. But you were sadly desperate. I wasn't measuring your music. I was measuring Grammy's. But when you step into my yard, I'm apparently stand, I feel bad, because you a kid and uptake in the candy, if the kid, John, that made the body drought first baby, getting potty, trade. Don't body wash where all from we never talk. You could get most Molly wa I said most I have my shoe in high school. I know you poppy Cup bogged up. The raw trees to take a long, Paul. I wish you wouldn't hit me my line. I'd take a phone call. It's the one that banks. What's. Is a problem with this? The loudest be the most saw I had this trip I have to sit with his clothes all. Oh, I'm starting to feel it. Oh, now you're starting to feel okay, grad, you naked in the whole night passing you, I would love to see the suckers, that was guessing New Mexico was one of the suckers gassing him over oversized battery. It's on the back of you. The most bangers be for kids with an attitude, this ain't my style. I just do music at peace. A double headed monster. Beauty Enda peace knocking at my door. It's my duty to greet, then I'm gonna sit you as dad and offer some super t. Book, I promise not to give this issue. No attention. Recognized when people hype you as a bogus mission. In my late in both games and you know, position if you go I would it depend on you for no decision. Wow. What up ROY I'm sorry. Yeah, you should be. I'm just are. What do you mean? A little bit of puppets. Fans. Oh my God. Ask him to read some more, tell them about tracks. Would you. Yeah. Ask them to read some more, we what's. Read donlevatar. It's friday. I'm getting into the week and I want to get my drink on stugatz. You've got to open up the club open it over Nate, open it now. But is the computer buffering there is this? Live at our show with this to God's own ESPN radio. We will update the polls here in a moment at lebatardshow on Twitter's how you vote. Mike are you ready to open up the club as well? Not yet. All right. So at lebatardshow is where you vote on Twitter's to God's let update the polls, we do not have that many of them today, we do not. We'll get to them and just one second. He Twitter Paul at lebatardshow is brought to you by Dollar Shave Club Dollar Shave Club delivers the products. You, you, you used a look feel and smell your best right to your door. Plus with their handsome discount. The more you buy, the more you save go to dollarshaveclub dot com slash Dan. For a special offer gonna take me a second here. I apologize guys. Let's do both. Let's do both at the same time. Let's open up the club and Wednesday gods. Ready because he really has been poked in product here over the last twenty minutes in a way that was aggressive. Let's open up the club. Gretz. You can listen to Zack on ESPN ninety nine point one Sioux Falls. What's the first sound in the club? Mike Ryan was one old boy named Corey he would sit there on an and like walk through the lake while he's burning this hater. Meanwhile he's got a dip something called Longhorn in his lip cheek Copenhagen. He's got three inches. I ash hanging off this Kool menthol. Okay. Dr Joe on Twitter. Does Tom Tolbert deserve a urinal at the warriors, new home, sixty five percent of the audience said, Yes, What's the next town in the club? This should be a lot of fun. I got a little gin even to do so. God bless take care. The OJ Simpson Twitter account. It's impossible to believe play that again, plead this should be a lot of fun. I got a little getting even to do so. God bless take care what the world is yours truly. What is less likely to be true? Why Leonard buys is moving boxes or Kawai, Leonard eats, a dozen apples with a fork and knife. Fifty one percent of the audience said apples with fork and knife. Megan repeat Portland pilot. At limit talk show on Twitter. What else you've got is the best part of walking through Home Depot, smelling Home Depot. They won for belly. And he's right. Seventy one percent of the audience said, yes, you seem to have arrived here in a way that's fairly normal. Thank you. Is the awkward start of our interview with Seth green? You seem to have arrived here in a way that's fairly normal. Thank. Not my most graceful moment as right after you asked him why he didn't have a cocaine habit. Good store. Once you reached eighty two aren't you always interim? Eighty two year old pitching great question, ninety five percent of the audience that, yes, some days are full of things you'd rather not do my homework. I'd rather not do homework. Do it. Anyway. What is har- harder on your body, a year in the NFL or a year Miami? Seventy percent of the he had said a year Miami. Scores. Would you willingly borrow your friends socks? Yeah. That's you can't do that. Seventy six percent of the audience agrees with you. That's exactly how the party. Rounded until Brad. Let's go more. Working. Glove. Now it's a party they got. Larry. They got got now. Done. Hi Frank could shave buddy.

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Hour 3: Russini and Nolan

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

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Hour 3: Russini and Nolan

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So take advantage today. Pick your delivery date and let one eight hundred flowers handle the rest when it comes to impressing her in Valentine's trust the Rose Authority already one eight hundred flowers dot com to order a dozen multicolored roses for nine hundred ninety nine or upgrade to twenty four multicolored roses for just ten dollars. More or go to one eight hundred flowers dot com slash. Dan Order today and save at one. Eight hundred flowers dot com slash. Dan All right. I need to go back for a second here and just clean up everything that mean adjusted in here because we had set up wonderfully wonderfully weird segment where Mike Leach asked answer the question and we were having him on during Super Bowl. Week as I'm dressed like a member of the Oakland Raiders Black Hole. We had just such a great radio segment where he gave way too long and answer and we were going to just break. We were going to be done John and say hey thanks Mike Leach. We'll talk to you tomorrow. We thought it was comedic. Funny to do that with Mike Leach Meena gets in there and first of all you just ruined the entire flow of all of that by being so excited to ask her questions that I couldn't then just let him go on that question. I had to let her ask her question. which was terrible? Meena is here in this segment to simply do the d. m. x. impersonation that's why she was in the studio and the way in the way that she killed the show she our show is not in the grand. Coding in honor has never been the show killed. Quite as much is meaning. Just killed the show. Rama Macgill's here too by the way. Okay on hold on for a second run because there are a number of things I wanted to get to with many times but Mike was all excited about the XFL because because they got they got X.. Oh for the love of God. It's a terrible terrible Nina. You sound like a cookie monster type challenge. That doesn't sound like does it tell you. Oh there it is so you did. I want to tell the story. Though before we get to. Ron McGill. I want to tell the story of of what happened to you at Super Bowl Media Day because it was so great. I want everyone to hear this story and I preface it with this. Check out the Kinda podcast with Lenny. I am consistently amazed that Meena knows a lot more than all of us who are talking about football on television like I'm talking about all of much. Maybe skied. But I'm talking about everybody at the company WHO's talking football. Nobody's nobody's got what has gotten in terms of football knowledge braunstone Hoban. Okay Ron you just stay there for a second. What happened to you? Because Mike's making fun of you all day and it feels a little bit cruel. Mike has been making fun of you about what happened at Media Day building me up there to immediately tear me down. What's going to happen so that Media Day walking around for the daily show? ESPN daily acting players. What I thought was a pretty fun on question? which is if you could build an entire football team out of one? NFL Player. Who would you choose tastes them? Hill Cam Newton. That kind of thing. So we're it's the end of the night. I'm very tired. Did you get disoriented at these things were about to head out and I see John Lynch the niners. GM and I'm like oh the actually someone who's is really well equipped to answer this question. So I come to say John Lynch. It's kind of a goofy question but I feel like you are a unique voice on this subject and it can be really fun Bon. I'm really big Fan of what you've done with the roster so I asked him the question and he looks at me and he goes. That would be a great question for John Lynch. I'm WES Welker. Wish I could've done a like a thirty foot hole in the floor and sunk into what is he. He doing look exactly alike taller than the other one is. They're always sitting down. He was also wearing wearing like Western. Wear which should have been giveaway. In retrospect cowboy meat is sitting there talking to offensive linemen that none of us know there. Nancy yes. She knows their names who welker pick. How does she get John Lynch I? He walked away. He hard worked out in me. Just walked off. Is it good. come to orbiting the mortification. Yeah Ron Stone Hall by the Yes we have to find that sound. Where's that sound? There is audio of it and it's brutal it's even worse whereas we need to get me know where is it. We need to play before the end of the show was Welker is five foot nine. John Lynch is six foot two okay but not that a different facial and were they were they fr ending up. Yeah the guy. Wes welker standing by himself. It's the difference between a Let's all right we've had another segment ruined by me. Leads leads and you asked for this I no. I didn't never mind Peter out of here. So Ron McGill. We don't have time to run for the love of God. God I have phone calls here for around the. Let's take a couple of phone calls and then watch video. She's ruined. Ron McGill segment. Thank you for being so patient Ron. Let's go to US thirty. Steve Steve What we all doing here. Steve Go ahead. You're on with Ron McGill superbowl week. Yeah Hi guys. Yeah question for Ron about frogs live in the Philly area and every year late June early July it gets really hot. I see this family of frogs come out at night. Two big ones like a mother and father and a baby one and they sit underneath the outdoor garage lights which is great because that's where the insects hang out and if the insects fall down they get a meal and come out every night until until late September or October when it gets cold here so the two part question number one. How do they remember to come back to the same spot every year and number two? Where do they go for the intervening nine months? When there's two feet of snow on the ground here in January we got enough God man? Let's go get Outta here. Go ahead Ron Answer. The okay take your assuming that those are the same frogs. They're probably not the same frogs you're also by the description saying you're assuming family like mommy a daddy and a little baby frogs. Don't do do that okay. Frogs were solitary and once they go into winter estimation what they do in the winter and phillies. They're going to the ground they go into the ground and go into education which is kind of like hibernation Those frogs are just just learning to come up there. Because that's where the food comes from. It's a it's a learned behavior. If you know you're going to fail I'm this is food is you're GONNA go back to the buffet line food when you're hungry so that's what they've learned but that's not necessarily the same frogs frogs filling in that niche. That has been Left open by. Maybe the death of the frogs you saw the previous year. She's coming in here again. Look for any of this. She's coming in the studio in the middle middle of what it is that we're doing. What's another call? We could take has been two minutes a jay go ahead. You're Oliver Rob MacGill go ahead. Ron ostriches. Where would they rank in terms of their overall level of toughness if you were to put them in a royal rumble type Max like we had this last on Sunday They're tough. You know. The thing is if you can get through the ostriches neck. You have a chance. But the thing is their feet are so powerful. They're like velociraptor. Had that big middle toe that they'll oh come at you they'll kick you. They can eviscerate you so the very very tough that way. They're not easy to bring down. I mean I've seen Cheetahs Get kicked pretty badly by them and be unsuccessful in trying to bring an ostrich down so don't assume assume because it's a bird it's easy it's not Barry. Go ahead you're on. ESPN RADIO WITH RAMA guilt. Hey Ron I got a fifteen year old rat terrier and when she goes outside to go the bathroom she spins around in circles about twenty times before she finally goes to the bathroom. She only does this when she pees wondering what that was about. Yeah you know. I don't know I've I've seen other dogs too. It's just kind of Cork. I guess some dogs have but I can't explain it. I really don't have an explanation for it. Sorry about that man. That is our expert. Are Animal expert without explanation. You've got a very now that you've had me holding for twenty minutes because on the corner is screwing up your show. Okay WHOA WHOA WHOA. WHOA WHOA WHOA? WHOA easy easy with your language? You're ready for the video. Yes because she has been cut short. I mean I got two questions. I'm done okay. Everybody this is an enraged. Ron McGill yes. We are ready for the video. Okay okay we got a fish. Oh Fish squirt gun to a whole there on fishing hole. I see this Tortora because yeah yeah. That's the best you got. Let me get something in my mouth and you go back and hope boom right and so he's he's sanders. I can take that. That's the best you can get some more down here. Let me go down to my whole. Get some more money in my food and I'M GONNA get my found for the rocks. I'M GONNA come back up and I suppose he's GonNa come yes. He is right in his face too. So this is just a tit for tat back and forth. Can you guys in the studio beautiful I'm sorry Ron we insulted Yushi. This is the first time I've ever seen McGill enraged. Thank you Ron. We appreciate you being on the show and I'm sorry we've upset you know need to call anybody names. Thank you transition time for some ads. What is happening okay? Hooper Bowl Week is arrived at it as it of a mess here and so I mean it just walked into the studio while we were doing the show. Oh to grab one of her bags. She is playing actively playing defense against everything. We're doing around A. She's one of the smartest people we put on television. I'm not even kidding by. Can you explain. Explain this dysfunction to me because I don't understand meaning is one of the smartest people in the history of this network. And when she comes on here she makes a mess of every really a lot. Like suge Knight's in that. She entered the industry very raw and she hasn't really improved in that yet. Her stock is skyrocketing close. Second May Can we please get at that sound of her asking. Wes welker question meant for John Lennon. And we have to do that in the next forty five minutes we have no other gold around here petard. Mommy Me Sto gots. Don't do visit the Dan Le Batard show with two guys on. ESPN radio arts. Mina kimes not only ruined like think about what just happened here the last couple of segments segments as we sink into the slop around here she not only ruined a Mike Leach conversation interview that would have been really funny by itself now. She then ruined our most popular segment as well from the penalty box and enraged Ron McGill Ron McGill went. When of any of us he's he's one of the nicest men in the world? He is modern day. Tarzan and everyone likes him in the same vein that everybody likes Tim. Kirk shinners amazed by how Nice Kenny G. is around here and she hog the segment ruin the segment and furthermore mistook. Wes Welker for John Lynch in an agreed just breaching his now defending it defending it saying how much they look alike How is that my fault? I those two segments trite there. That were really good. We're doing super bowl week. There's a lot happening around here. You're the only professional in the world. Yeah Yeah thank you and your thank thank you good night as we've established integrity. Yes my fault okay. So is your phone. Well this is. What is your fault? Actually because there is something that is your fault also got We have a bunch of people in the studio first of all. It's a zoo around here. Okay it is. There's nobody in control and I'm going to get arrested before the end of the week because of the number of people coming in through here and I'm I'm Gonna I'm GonNa harm somebody okay because everything around here is happening too fast. But now there's some people very nice. These people bearing some gifts They're they're here to lure you and this is evidently this is the last stand. We've been doing this for years years' with Stugatz we've been trying to get him to Sioux Falls. They have I well. My own elections in one on the platform of will you have a Stugatz Day in Sioux who falls South Dakota right and for several years. Now we're going on year three of stugatz telling the fine people of South Dakota that he has no interest in going to they're Vajpayee unbelievable offer despite amazing offers but he's leading them along in some weird leverage play. Get more stuff out of them so coming up in the next ex segment. Sioux falls makes its final offer and gifts I mean. Hopefully they're coming with a private jet and the gift of cash. He's turned they they were able to get an entire day proclamation. Who are at the dinner at the finest steak house? South Dakota has to offer and then the offer started really getting good. They would not only take care of his airfare they secured private planes. They try to get impaired in a in a golf tournament with John. Daly and still not an award. There wasn't there a giant cash offer. That was deducted every day STU gods didn't say yes wasn't there giant called offer of like twelve thousand dollars for him ten thousand dollars she's also also demanding an appearance fee because they're just not kind. They're kindness isn't enough he needs dollars So are we are we. Are we telling the audience and telling telling Sioux falls and telling STU gods here that this is the last negotiation that we're about to do that. God Okay so this is it though. Like we're not gonNA bobbing me any more about it and you're gonNA look like jackasses. People struggle all over America to make money. You're going to look like the Jackass so interested in being the famous court jester On on the radio in ways that are easy for you turned down some of money and and luxuries unparalleled in the business. You're going to be that guy I'm we'll we'll see because it depends if they come with different offer. Listen all I've asked for. Is You know do it at the right time of year. The right amount of cash on all your bathroom. Private Jet Sunshine John. I can't change where they are well. Let's okay okay but I'm tired of this honestly I'm a people here. I'm tired of doing this to got stugotz. Making us look really bad continuously because he he he refuses to accept any of these offers so I'd like to get these people out of my life and I'm talking about students to like I'd like them all. I WanNa do this anymore. So this is the last time we're GonNa do this chapter okay last year. Another no more negotiations either final. This joke is run. Its course I want to be done with this honest. No now I'm going to be done with. It is what I'm telling you these people everybody I want you all out of my life And you're never gonNA stop 'em what I am and I'm forty four warriors old and I ain't changed stugatz changed now. It's worked here. I am that next year healthy rich. These Lisa Donlevatar show with two guys on. ESPN radio what are you guys pulling up back there. Why do you all of you do all of you look so happy? Do they gave us a bunch of not. Unlike up bad trying to make a good impression on the kids he bought us off. Look at this. got a stick made of elk meat seals. The deal all right. So here's what we've got. We've got jeff turned from. ESPN ninety nine. One in Sioux falls and Jeff helped me out. Please just tell the People Mike told Our version of events. I'm getting increasingly upset with Stugatz because I think he's disrespecting and you guys are in the audience by continually being himself. I mean I've had jeff up at my place we've had lunch together. Spoke all right. You're done on with these negotiations. I want to be done with this either with finality. I appreciate that I mean. I've lost so much hair over the last three years. I've had two more kids since then and I probably spent about twelve thousand dollars of my stations money including about four hundred on all kinds of exotic meats that we shoot up there in South Dakota to seal. This is the also as you know. I was coming down today with gifts. They're all pumped up there on board and we're to the point now where everything's finalized right like we're to the point where you're gonNA sign this contract. He came on my show. I the contract. I saw. Well you re looking at it and Mike. I'm dead serious to God's who's looking at it and I'm like are you doing this or you're not doing this and he's like I don't like some all of this language and I'm like there's a natural contracts English language well I don't like that. He spent twelve K when he could've spent it on me. That would have sealed the deal. I mean twelve thousand dollars dollars you might as well just light it on fire. Perfect can you regular regulations on the kids. I probably won't meet him. Okay here. We Go is God's Aka Jonathan Jimmy Weiner will commit on this day January twenty eight two thousand twenty two Stugatz Day in Sioux falls falls South Dakota odd September. Two Thousand Twenty there will be no illnesses work events ads the goals uh-huh or windings or golf outings Lacrosse tournaments any familiar matter. That will hinder me from Danny help with this word. I left off me okay. I've got to put my classes on here. Yeah for me. It's September by the way Bar Mitzvah season. You're not tricking me into reading something that you didn't say go. Hey well no well. I'm struggling with his words. To God's got stay thousand twenty I would glide fank. Jt the most amazing sports radio host. JD The breakout. Talk Radio the entire ninety nine point one crew. Add Stu falls sports leader. This great opportunity from South Beach to South South Dakota I say that right it it was official Stugatz. Day is a go in two thousand twenty as long as I sign this piece of Pie all right so that's ironclad we will keep an eye on him. Don't move don't leaves leaves God's leave the key leave leave right there the piece of paper where I can see it so that we can get you to sign this if you agree to terms so jeff. What do we have here in terms news of term? Well first of all it's official. They've already created the sign. That part of it. Welcome to stay on the golf course. Waste any money. It's a very nightside been made already. They already have a picture of you on the golf course at the Sanford International Migra wear my share. By the way you look a lot like daily in that picture like you guys have both been diet cokes. Donald well done on that I mean the pictures are better than actually having to go exactly. Yeah we got this for Dan. I'm sure he'll wear this to the next Joe. Nice little hunting pheasant hat for you Dan. Okay but you're coming with very cheap item so really like where's the big stuff. Where's the big ticket? Move Right here. Dan We got these. Things are very exotic Some pheasant meat for you venison pork. We kill a lot of deer. So there's that as well okay so those are some of the things that they're giving us more importantly league through all of this. There's some other goodies. We'll give you from Sanford national. Is there a private jet in that bag or we will bring any of you guys that want to come up. We'll make sure you guys have the best accommodations on on a private jet up to Sioux Falls South Dakota number two. We will put you in at Establishment that we have. They're called the Hilton Garden Inn. Right right so we will put you in the not much better than on the water to on the big Sioux River Will it'll be watered by by September and sweet. Oh except timber date. We got a date and the mayor of Sioux Falls. Texted me the other day. And he's never been more excited about anything in his political career than to deliver on. STU GOT NOT ST. Paul Tim Higgins said. Go anything we need. Plus I think this is the kicker that'll get you guys to do anything just across the border in Iowa and the casinos willing to do anything for you man over there so if you'd like to say instead the Hilton Garden Inn. We'll pick you up for the golf tournament. We're doing Iowa because right. Sorry we'll get free plays. Can you put your name on the damn piece the paper at this point. Do you know how much I've gone through to make this happen. It's been years. He's GonNa Play Golf Tournament over there. Too no that's false. They got Gulf out at the grand falls but am am. I GonNa play in a golf tournament. Yes you'll be in the pro-am okay and so we got the private jet. WHO's my partner daily at this point? Not I the wait a minute. Hey It's John John John John Caley again always wants to go and he goes into car which I liked so you don't have to walk come. I'm on the piece all right. Hold on a second hold on hold on daily of heaters all right lock you a heater. Guess who got Tena Slim's or what is the cigarette that you're not supposed to tell people that you whenever I have all right. This is a big deal here. Big Deal because I am genuinely honestly. It's been embarrassing to me. How to God says slung you along in our shows name because originally it was going to be the whole show going? They're coming right. Well I just open if you come on Doggone I'm gonNA tell. South satisfy her bucket little story. The whole story is I mean come on Valor would love it. The reason that this is escalated to this point is because the whole show would not ever go and do this not ever and so the the negotiations. The reason they've climbed as high as they have is. Because you were saying we'll all go some time and we've been pushing you for years on this now. It's golf with John Daly and it's a private jet and it's welcome to God. Stay with the mayor telling you you're going to have carte blanche in the city sounds like a no from you. I contract is not written for me. It is right there in his revisionist history to. We've always been down. We WanNa know God's has always been the issue here you guys want my attorney to review this legal document attorneys and the country's at this point legally able to look seriously I'm not I'm not dragging this out in the Eh tomorrow. Come on man. Do we get to the cash. 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Labor Day Weekend // When You Meet Jesus

Celebrate Community Church

50:01 min | 5 months ago

Labor Day Weekend // When You Meet Jesus

"Everybody. This is Keith Roy. I'm the founding senior pastor of celebrate church in Sioux Falls South Dakota, and this is our podcast I just WanNa say thank you for joining us and it is my prayer that this week's message would truly encourage you enjoy. Well. Hello celebrate it is great to be together. We have just finished an amazing series called growing your faith walk into the book of James. I'll tell you I've always loved books as but man, it came alive even that much more for me I. Don't know about the rest of it. It had a deep impact on my life I hope that it did for you as well. Now, next weekend pastor Keith is going to lead us in a new series is called the greatness of God looking at Psalm twenty three well, today passer Keith is allowed me. I'm incredibly humbled to open God's word with you. If you would open up your bibles to Luke Chapter Nineteen Luke Chapter Nineteen. The while you're doing that. Everyone of us has maybe a piece of Trivia. That's kind of a fun trivia fact that probably most people don't know about as well I'm sure one of those that of my trivia facts with you today. I have met one of the presence of the United States. House that Trivia is that? Okay one thing now I had a chance to meet President Ronald? Reagan. Now, anybody who are under thirty years old you're going who and thank you for making me feel that old but in nineteen eighty-six President Ronald Reagan came to Sioux falls actually and he spoke at the Sioux falls arena and and the tickets already been sold out I didn't know if I could go but then last night I had a chance to but couldn't get inside so I went outside hoping that let's be able to see him kind of thing well, sure enough motorcade pulls up he comes out and he starts shaking hands and he's coming down the line A few people back? Okay. But people are saying he's shake hands and it comes right in front is. I reach over the top and I touched his hand like that. I know it changed his life. But. I met Ronald Reagan. Or did I really I mean, if they can be honest about it, I knew about president. Reagan. I had read about him. I had actually seen him on television different things like that. Actually. Touched him. But throughout is I didn't meet him. I say that because I think that's true with a lot of people in the church today in the world. They have heard a Jesus. They've known about Jesus. They've read about Jesus they've seen Jesus two things in the lives of the people they might have been been touched a little bit by Jesus themselves, but they've never. Met. and. So we want to talk today about what does it mean to really meet Jesus because because the vision of celebrate is helping people meet Jesus because here's what we believe that when you really meet Jesus. Everything changes would you that? Everything changes so. What happens when you really meet Jesus how you know if someone has made it well, today we're GonNa read a story of someone who did me cheese and that will give us the impact and the evidence of what that means. It's store, but we little man. Luke nineteen starting in verse one I'm reading. Out. The new living translation. Jesus entered Jericho and made his way through the town. There was a man there named, Zaccheus? He was the chief tax collector in the region and he had become very rich. He tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd. So he ran ahead and climbed a sycamore fig tree beside the road for Jesus going to pass that way. When Jesus came by he looked up at Zaccheus and called him by name. Zakia he said quick come down. I must be a guest in your home today. Sack he has quickly climbdown. It took Jesus to his house in crate excitement and joy. But the people were displeased. He gone to be the guests of into Torius. Center. They grumbled. Meanwhile at Kia stood before the Lord said I will give half my wealth to the poor Lord and if I've cheated people on their taxes, I will give them back four times as much. Jesus responded salvation has come to this home today for this man has shown himself to be a true son of Abraham. For the son of man came to seek and save those who are lost. Great Story. Let's understand a little bit of the history in store. But now we start off right away in verse one and verse two. Here's what it said. Jesus enter Jericho and made his way through the town. There was a man there named Zaccheus. He was the chief tax collector in the region and had become very rich. Let's get a little history. Jesus is on his way to Jerusalem in fact, a few versus later in the same chapter, you'll see that he enters Jerusalem where they proclaim him as the King Hosanna and they do palm brands and proud of them. We recognize that his palm Sunday. And within a few days, he'll be crucified. So literally Jesus in the last days of his life. On the way to do some, he stops at a town called Jericho. Now, that name be familiar for people because in the Old Testament. There was the city of Jericho that when the Israelites came into the Promised Land, the first city they conquered was. Jericho and they conquered it because they march around the city seven times and what happened to the walls. Came tumbling down absolutely well, just outside that city, a new Jerusalem was built and it actually became kind of a trade center and a very rich center. Well, there is a man in that town name sexiest from what we've read what we know about Zaccheus. He was wealthy. What else about him? Short short absolutely, and what was his occupation today? Not, just a tax you're. Off The chief tax collector. Okay. Absolutely. Now, that job meant that he was popular with everybody. No, no I mean, let's be honest. There's probably none of you right now that have invited Iran agent to your house for Christmas. Let's be honest about it. Okay. But in that day even more. So he was hated why? Because the Romans had come in taken the land over so they're the conquers of land, and now they're imposing a tax on the people obviously to profit off of that conquest. But what they do instead of having almost to it, they have their own Jewish people do it. Zaccheus was one of those people. So not only was a cheater, he's a traitor. That's a double hate. In that way in the promise he'd become very wealthy how because when he collected the taxes, he collected more than was actually requested and he profited came off the top. So that is very wealthy. But it was also very lonely. Everyone. Knew Him and everyone. Hated him he was a religious outcast obviously, he didn't go to church. The fact thing about what's the worst thing you could think of that somebody would make money on that would be just you would be a a drug lord. would be a someone who sold children to sex slavery. Would it be some who sold illegal weapons? That's In that day. Katie, give you an idea. But something was missing for Zaccheus maybe some of you today are realizing something's missing for you. So. Is that kiss runs to tree ahead of him to get a glimpse of this man named Jesus now in the Mid East? TAP, any man run and climb up a tree would be undignified. But especially a wealthy. Prominent Man I think about this. For Mark Cuban. Okay of Shark tank to run up and climb up on a tree to get a glimpse of. Can you imagine that happening now? Not at all? But Zaccheus didn't care about his reputation. He didn't care if he literally potentially exposed himself. To everybody below. Because, he had a need and he wanted to see, Jesus? There was something he was looking for. In that way, see I found. That when you're willing to exhausted, even expose yourself. You'll experience Jesus. You will. Now, before we jump into what happens when you Jesus I want us to look at three things that will happen that when you that Jesus actually will do when you meet him. These are three things Jesus will do. Okay. Here's the first thing. Jesus will see you. He'll see you. Gay It's an versus three through five. Here's what it says He. Tried to get a look at Jesus, but he was too short to see over the crowd. So he ran ahead inclined Sycamore fig tree beside the road for Jesus was going to pass that way when Jesus came by he looked up at Zaccheus. Jesus will see you know we. We've always limited time where people are isolated sometimes feel lonely especially in this covert season. Can we agree that's more than that than after? You know no-one invited Zaccheus to their home. No one put him on their Christmas list. No one ever said he's acquiesce. What are you doing Friday night when hang out? Now What I find is this when people are lonely and isolated, there's kind of two extremes. ONE IS THEY WANNA be seen they. They want everybody to see him. Okay. Two month old grandson that's in the stage of of Papa Watch Me Papa look at me poppy. Kids, they want you to see everything they want to notice everything about them I. Sometimes look at what people post on social media. What they post on facebook and what are they saying? SEAMY seamy. They WANNA be seen because they feel isolated. They feel like they're lonely they want they want to be seen. They WanNa be noticed by then the the other extreme though I see that sometimes people will hide. When they feel lonely I. Say they hide. That's especially maybe if they feel shame on a thing as well. Maybe, some of you who've either been through or maybe going through an addiction, you know what it means to hide in that way. People hide themselves in a lot of different ways. They can hide themselves into a tree. Okay. But they can tie themselves in their work. Write they hide themselves in the relationship some hide themselves behind Cova did. I find that. Do you want to see have Jesus? Jesus does see you even if you're hiding. In fact here's what it says in Jeremiah Twenty three. Can anyone hide from me in a secret place? This is God's saying this. I love this can anyone hide from me in a secret place? Am I not everywhere in all the heavens and the Earth says the Lord here's a reality. Jesus sees you. He sees you right now exactly where you are even though you might be very lonely, very isolated. Here's a second thing though that Jesus. Will do when you meet him he will call you by your name. We read this in verse five. Came by he looked like he called him by name. That's important. Zach Ese quick comedown. I must be a guest in your home today. Can. We agree it's huge. Have Your name called. Remember growing up as a kid on the playground they're picking sides to play game. What do you want to hear? You want to hear your name and the longer. You don't hear your name what happens inside you. Mad Please please and then you don't want to be the last one. That's for sure you WanNa hear anymore let's say that you're an you walk into a room and somebody says, Hey, gala I came here or they say your name what does that? It makes you feel good. Doesn't it? Versus if you walk in a room and nobody says your name. 'cause nobody even recognizes your there. Man Jesus calls you by name about this. Why did Jesus go through Jericho I? Mean where's he headed to worse? His Goal Jerusalem Jerusalem? That's his goal. Why did he go through Jericho? Could it be? To meet. Zaccheus. Do, you think that potentially people area new who was Yeah because he was the chief tax collector avenues. Could it be that Jesus went through? Just to meet this little guy in this little tree. Could that be the case I think. So here's a rowdy wherever yet right now, whatever's going on in your life whatever situation you're in? Jesus is calling your name. He does he knows where you're at he sees you but he called you by name I love how salt says isn't Psalm one, thousand nine. Award you've examined my heart and you know everything about me. You know when I sit down or stand up you know my thoughts even when I'm far away. You see me when I travel arrested home. You know everything I. Do you know what I'm GonNa say even before I say it Lord. Hugo before me and you follow me, you place your hand a blessing on my head. Such knowledge is too wonderful for me too great for me to understand. I can never escape from your spirit. I can never get away from your presence. Jesus calls us by name and here's the third thing that Jesus will do Jesus will come into your home. Jesus will come into your home and read this and I five quick come down. This is Jesus talking to quick come down. I must be a guest in your home today. Addressing. Jesus didn't say he's kiss come down I'll meet you at the synagogue. We didn't. He said I WANNA. Wear. To your home he said, he didn't tell them how he didn't say Zach you need to repent. You didn't say that he didn't make a picket sign. In, hold it up. He didn't go on social media in blasts kiss for what a rotten guy he was. He wanted to come to his home. I wonder how many Jews it ever done that before gone to Zaccheus his home. when how many religious leaders ever had? That numbers zero. Jesus does in fact, in book revelation, he says this here I am I stand at the door and what knock if anyone here's my voice and opens the door I will come in I will eat with him and he with me. You know what I fear. I think there's a lot of people that would rather be Jesus Church that happened come to their home. Because at Church was Jesus. Great to be with Ya see again. Next. Sunday. Have a great week buddy. See that. Wow. Because Jesus, came to our house. He might see what's on my computer. He might see it's my iphone. He might see and hear the things that I, say, the tone I. Say. He might see what I'm really spending money on. The rail is this. We think that we want hurry up and clean the house up before Jesus Jesus no outcome your house I want to clean it up. Here's a rowdy see when you make. Jesus Jesus will see you. He'll call you by name and he'll come to your house. Let's talk for a moment. What things go through your mind right now when we talk what we've been so far to me just POPs in my head is. Just, just the greatness of God in the love and mercy of got. You said the The first thing Jesus. Says I want I want to be you I. Want to spend time with you in your place. in knowing that Jesus once for each and every one of us. that he wants to meet US where where he loves us so much that he'll meet us where we're at but he loves so much that he'll make sure we don't stay. And I see that was the key is Jesus. Love Him so much. He wanted to meet them where he's at in his own, but he love him so much that I wanNA. Help you clean. You know what? I mean. Get you through this. And just paints a beautiful picture of who he is. Because of his love, His grace for us. It's amazing to sit back and think that our God there's no limits. Snow Valley too low. There's no mountain too high. That he won't go out and seek you. He Won't receive you where you're at meet you where you're at, but also impact you. And God way? One of my favorite versus from a song is I don't need my name in lights. I'm famous and my father's eyes make no mistake. He knows my name and that's something as an athlete. You know it's really easy to focus on you want to having your name out there. But at the end of the day, we're here to serve God and to have his name be known through our works. Now, Our Name be known for works. It's throughly truly God working through us. Well, we've been talking about this. We've been looking at this. Oh, Jesus will do when we meet him not sir around. What will happen to you when you truly be cheeses Were truly because again. Here about him not read about him not knowing some things about another that when you truly meet him and say, well, how can you judge it? Well, it's called fruit. So for example, how do you know if a trees and apple tree? There's apples on it. Okay. Exactly. There are four fruit. We're GONNA see out of the life is that kiosks that are evidence of someone who's truly met Jesus and as we walk through these, I'm encouraged all we get personal eight. Wow. Where am I add that really have I. Truly. Met Him according to that okay. Here's the first one. When you truly meet Jesus, you will do what Jesus says. You'll do what Jesus says we see it in I six because Jesus said Zaccheus come down quickly. APP House here's out says it's zaccheus quickly climbed down. And took Jesus to his house. Quickly came, down. quickly. Means immediate. Obedience. Here's a phrase that I think is has been challenging for me. The longer it takes to obey God. Is the distance I am from. God Let me say it again, the longer it takes me to obey God or be his word. That's the distance I am from God. Because how long did it take him to come down from the tree? Quickly immediate. Obedience. So, for example. I know I've heard about tithing giving ten percent guide but but you know it just isn't our budget right now and Here's a reality. You haven't truly met, Jesus. You had you haven't. Because, there's immediate obedience to. Or person I'd say I I. Know I know I know I should read the Bible I I i. know that I know Jesus talks about that. I know that man. Just, hardware able to get into it kind of get. It just means you you haven't truly met Jesus out. It's what it just means. Sometimes couples that are. Looking getting married but they're living together and I know what? God's word says about sex for marriage I know what God says about living together I know. But we're we're we're planning on getting married in. A love you. You haven't met Jesus Shat. Truly. Because when you truly meet Jesus. You will do what he says. Delayed obedience is. Disobedience. Those who have children understand that if you told your child to do something. And they did a week later is that obedience? No, it's disobedience delayed. Obedience is disobedience. Here's how Jesus said it. Himself John Fourteen says if you love me, you'll obey me. Now, I've been very open the fact that for six years I had an addiction pornography addiction. Okay. There's been a number of years ago, but in that span. Here's a reality. I knew about Jesus and I could even say that. I thought loved him but I had never surrendered totally surrendered. To Jesus. Here's his crazy. I was on staff at a church. And that area was still not obedience to me I wasn't obeying in. My Life. I can say well. I'm struggling with some things. I knew what the right thing was to do. That I, continue to choose it and I did seek help for it to get out of it. It was delayed. Obedience does I I hadn't met Jesus yet. The route is this when you meet Jesus everything changes in. You'll obey and do what he says. That's how you know you met Jesus because everything will change. Here's a second thing that will happen when you truly meet. Jesus. You will have great excitement and joy. You have great excitement and joy. Here's what it said. Zach has climbed down and took Jesus to his house with what? Great Excitement and. Joy Man you can almost pick your. Bam He's on the ground must a little guy for him to be that way and he's Young fired upcoming. Now I don't know what his life was before that I can't see. zacchaeus being isolated. For all that and hated everybody having great excitement enjoy. But here he does. If I said, what are the things that give great excitement enjoy would be very different people for me kissing my wife. Okay that's one great excitement gradually absolutely. Being, with my children grandchildren great excitement. Great Joy for other people might be different things for some people hunting Craig site McGraw, Golf. Okay. In fact, it might be a relationship. You've heard people say this you go. Wow. Why are you so happy? I. Met Someone. Have you heard of that? Does I think? Yeah, I bet you met somebody didn't you? I got somebody Yup that gives me great excitement. Great Joy. How about opening God's word. And worshipping him. Does that give you great excitement and great joy Here's what it says in Psalm One, twenty, two, I rejoice with those who said to me let us go to the house Lord I rejoiced with those who said to me great excitement and great joy. Was that you today when you got up, had a chance to open the Bible. Had a chance to be with other people in worship. When you truly meet Jesus. You'll have excitement joy. No matter what your circumstances are. Because, had any of that his circumstances changed. None. But. He met Jesus. Seat what I find it says. The. Under circumstances all the time and that determines have excitement or joy how things are things are going great. things are going great. WHOA wait wait wait did Jesus Change. When you meet? Jesus. It doesn't matter what the circumstance our here's what Philippians four says. May You always be joyful? Always. Be Joyful in your union with the Lord Not in your circumstances in your union with the Lord I'd say it again rejoice he repeats himself in fact, repeat this after me locate. Circumstances don't give you joy. Concerning Christ does. Make. Sense. See when you truly meet Jesus he gives you join excitement not your circumstance it doesn't matter what circumstances are. Have a dear person that just passed away this past month to cancer. Heart heart but you know what? Every time I talk this person there was great excitement. Great Joy. Because that was found in Christ not in the circumstances question. When people see you and I? At work at school, do they see someone has great excitement in? Great Joy? Because they've truly met Jesus. You met Jesus to they. See that do we have great excitement joy when we have the chance to come together and worship together and church when you open up God's word seat if you've really meant Jesus Everything changes. You'll have great excitement and great joy. Let's talk about those two things what what's going through your mind on those two thoughts You can choose. To wake up in the morning and And be be he didn't get enough sleep I gotta go to my job. Don't like my job, my bosses Jerick, whatever you can choose all those things. Or you can make the mental decision. I'm alive I woke up today Jesus is in done in my life. Let's go out and do that. You know that's the way that I get my days like Kinda. It might even bug Morgan a little bit because like I wake up I'm like Whoa let's go and she is not a morning person. And she wouldn't mind me tell you that but. Is. Just one of those things like I'm excited because my day started and I'm in I I start my day here. Right here WanNa see what the Lord has for me today at the beginning of my day rather than it when I go home at work and I'm tired mentally drained I don't want to. Because good chances whatever I'm going to read in that the morning is going to help me through my day whereas if I and my day come here. Wow, I wish I. would have known that this morning. You know so. They. Just, waking up with that joy. Sets. The tone for the rest of your day. I think the reality is the majority of US delay our obedience on a lot of different things. I mean I. I it happens in it's about accepting, identifying, correcting a moving forward and when when you said that I was like, oh I feel like. I feel like that's something we've all struggled with. And when we get to the point where we are having this one on one relationship. With Jesus and were, we feel like we're all in but we're truly not in. I mean I feel like thatched be a breaking point but people get stuck right there. That's where they get stuck and they. Okay. I'm going to church Hey I I. I've corrected this habit or this behavior and now I I'm doing what I'm supposed to do but they don't take that leap from where they are to truly be obedient. We don't. We don't totally surrender because we want to have control. Remember you using this analogy once his pen okay. Got I'm gonNA give you this. I'm going to give you this GonNa give you this. Maybe, this this. I can't. I. Can't let go and we're clinging on because we still want to control. But if we know if we let go, we have no control but we know who's in control. In when we come to that point of leap of faith got I'm scared. I don't know what's going to happen whatever it may be when we let go. You have this freedom in that starts working in. Because we want to be complete control because of easing control what regardless of what the outcome or my situation my circumstance I know that I'm in good hands. So, total surrenderance comes when we completely let go when I think a lot to there's times. Mean you can look at it the opposite side right when you sit back and say, well, what's the worst thing that could come from it? Right? It's like even idea like, okay, I'm right here if you decide to let go and totally surrender take that leap of faith. What could truly be the worst outcome of it? Right and I mean, you could say like, Oh, I could die. Is that really that bad of an outcome and I I don't say like jokingly people ask me all the time realistically once you're dead, you probably don't care anymore. In terms of where you're at unless you don't know before where you're going. But if you know where you're going because you've already totally surrendered at that point in time but truly is the worst thing that can happen you know. See. When you truly meet Jesus everything changes. It changes because of Jesus. Okay. Not Rebound not here bottom. You know hear about from other people when you truly meet him. So we talked about the fact that when you meet him okay you'll obey and do what he says immediate obedience and then we said Greg Simon Joy. Here's the third thing that you do. YOU WILL GIVE You'll give here we go. Verse Eight. Meanwhile, Zaccheus stood before the Lord and said I will give half my wealth to the poor Lord and if I've cheated people on their taxes, I will give them back four times as much. while. I think one of the struggles that I find that people have is a difference between two words and they chase the wrong word. They chase. Passion They. Chased Passion I. See this especially with a lot of young people. Now they they say I want to I'm trying to find what my passion is. GonNa Chase. My passion I want to do something that I'm passionate about and then man I'm I'm excited I wanNA marry the got my passionate about that person. Okay. Now that's okay. But what happens to passion? It fades and it changes because passion is emotion. They chased the wrong thing. Instead of tasing passion, they should chase priorities. Priorities now what I mean by that is that in fact, come back to passion. Passion needed okay. In a marriage you need passion in a marriage. Marriage conference one time and remember the one speaker Sane for the man he said man here's some ways to keep passion in your marriage. Any list off a fifteen different things for the husbands to do. Things like texture wife or call her during the day leaving note that says that you love her cleanup do dishes. Friday little things all throughout the day that show that that helps great passion. Then he turned to the women he said wives. Two things. Bring food come naked. That's what he said. Fashioned could've been. But the reality is chase the wrong that we chase passionate. We should be chasing priorities. See you determine your priorities. And they become your passion. So let me be example. Okay. My wife Cindy. Is, not my passion. You will. We'll. We'll. What's that about? No, she's not. She's not my passion. She's my priority. Goddess I. She's right there. Because he's my party I'm passionate about her. Is that make sense? Okay Reading. The Bible getting up early in the morning reading the Bible. About I'm not passionate about that getting up. Early. But it's my priority. And because it's my party, I'm passionate about working out. Passionate about working I'd have fly boy donate my word but because it's a priority mind guess what. I'm passionate about it makes sense. See Priorities Converse passions come next? Here's a question though. Is Giving priority to God. Well, think about the verse for God. So love the world that he what. gave. Giving is a priority to God. See the reality is this. That's a case when you make Jesus God's priorities become our passion. That make sense God party become are passionate. You will want to give out of your time into resources. Interesting. If you know what he says Jesus has right after. Verse. Nine. Jesus responded salvation has come to this home today for this man has shown himself. Keyword shown himself to be a true son of Abraham. Salvation is not based on belief. Mega Whoa Whoa, Whoa, I thought about. Jesus said, even the demons believe. You can believe and not have met Jesus. Kate. The Demons? Believe. They had not Jesus and submitted themselves to it. Kind of thing. It says this he says, no here does say sexiest prayed a sinner's prayer. He showed himself action. He showed himself by his passion was because God's priority guys parties give an immediate. What was his response I give how much? Half. Thing about that half of everything in for those if I've cheated anybody how much in return. Four Times as much. See. We live in a world right now where we live by intent in words. Not by actions. I'm not gonna read the whole passage. In Matthew Twenty. Five. Jesus talking this Jesus and he's talking about the final judgment. Method twin paces this. But when the son of man comes in his glory and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne in all the nations will be gathered in his presence and he will separate the people. A shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. So now's final Judgment Heaven Hell. Remember it. He's going to say to those people says the people to have his has come you've inherited I was hungry. You Fed me I was thirsty. You gave me something to drink. I was a stranger. You invited me and I was naked you cold mail a sick care for me I was in prison. You've is me it was what they did not what they said. It wasn't their profession of faith. It was our acts of faith makes sense what they gave. then. The other half comes and says we're wait when did we see that he said? When you've done it to the Lisa these you've done it to me. He says I tell you the truth when you refuse to help the least of these my brothers sisters you refusing to help me in other words. He's saying this judgment according to g says is going be based on was his party's are. Passion. His priorities to give do we give of our resources in time here's rowdy if we don't give of our resources time. You haven't met Jesus. Because when you've met Jesus you WANNA. Give. Up. Time effort you WANNA serve. You Wanna be able to do that. Here's the last thing. The fourth thing that will happen when you truly meet Jesus. The mission of Jesus? Will become your mission. The mission cheese will become your mission. Here's how he says in verse ten for the Son of man came to seek and save those who are lost. Game Afraid, too many times people in the church are so busy telling people what they're doing wrong that they themselves don't do what's right. Just a chapter earlier in Luke Luke, eighteen, Jesus talking, and he's given the story illustrates this the Pharisee stood by himself and he prayed he talked about prayer and this is what the way the pharisee religious man was praying God. I thank you that I'm not like these other people needless snuff sinners thing about this robbers, evildoers, adulterers or even he's GonNa get the worst of the worst this. Tax Collector. Think about that. I mean the worst of the worst center he labels him separate even this tax collector. Jesus mission was to seek and save who. The loss. I've never met anybody who's life has been changed because someone told them they were center. Who somebody blasted on social media who pick them at an event? Never. Met Him. Jesus mind was always on his mission. Where was he headed to ultimately what city through Rousselin he was going to die? He was going to the cross to save mankind and to be honest many of us would have said Jesus come on we we gotta get. We're on the way to Jerusalem we don't have time to stop at Gerry Cole. Have time for this you you're saving the world come on. Let's stay focused on what's important. What was important Jesus seeking and saving the One? The one. The we little man in the wee little tree called Zaccheus. It was about the one. What what do you think? Change Zaccheus? What was it the sermon? Jesus, gave. Does it say Jesus gave us It was his love. His love and acceptance of Zaccheus changed him. Were called to help people meet Jesus. That means that seeking saving the loss of twenty, four seven that's why I say the Church never closed. WHO'S A church? We are. Worthy Church in the world's actually one of the things that you're going to hear US anytime that we have a chance to talk with you for a long time we're GONNA ask you a question who are you deciphering right now? We're start asking you that. Are. You decide right now who are you building a relationship with that to help them meet Jesus? In fact. Would you? Be Willing to meet and reach the next Zaccheus. WHO's probably the person that we oppose in hate the most. Think about that or a society hates the most. In a politically or what if Europe one party and Zach Kia's is a candidate for the other party. And God says. I love him. I created them. They're special in my sight. You don't have a right to judge them. You go loved them. Wow. How that'd be? Enact to read and a nice. Saul an Anna's told by God. Go anoint him. He goes what he's killing us. He's got says. He's mind I create a Ugo. How far would we go to reach the next sack? He is that we would be them. We would support them. We would come alongside them protect them would we do it? You know it's interesting. David Platt. Passer Pizza and talking about a book I've read the book. Wahdat that's. Hard in my heart. Breaking. My heart still is because it's asking the question what am I really doing really to reach the lost really kind of thing and he's right. Something has to change some. That's eight. France, we cannot go on thinking that come to church singing a couple songs hearing a message and going home and come. Next week is following Jesus. It's not it's not at all. If it's not twenty, four, seven US seeking out the next Zaccheus. Seen him calling my name come into their home, inviting them at our home and build a relationship. What would it be for us to have a broken? Truly Mijas have broken heart. Even collectively think about this wells in Liberia we've been supporting that obviously right now eighteen wells that we've been as a church have been part of digging new wells in. Liberia. Each well on an average between one thousand, two thousand people that have clean water for health obviously against disease obvious against bias at. But when they gathered in the well ability build churches there. Okay. So so far right now eighteen wells means we've connected and help twenty, five, thousand people. What if collectively we met Jesus with excitement joy we gave we gave generously to reach the loss. What if we did one hundred wells? And reach quarter of a million people. Why not. You. Couple of kids go. that. Sponsoring children through world. Hope in Liberia was important to get them out of sex sex trafficking trafficking to be able to get them education and give them hope right with seventy two that have been sponsored gay. What if we did seven hundred? Seven hundred. What would that be like? Your Church we've been giving in wanting to multiply. So we've been doing church plants, and now we have a whole group of of home church is that starting as well we have thirty three right now church plan home churches, Caleb. You're part of one in park. Very excited about that. We're part of that and it's impacting people. But what if you're the one who's called? Delete. Home Church. Out of your comfort zone to reach the Zaccheus that lives right next door to you or we collectively gave and we had one hundred. Churches. Church plants. See. That's what it's about see when Jesus asks us to die. Ourselves just what you said that's what it is but deliver his priorities. That our passions become him now can just make this quick. nope. Before we talk more and that is when you do that, don't expect to others around you Claudia. Did you catch what happened in the story did you catch it? It's in verse seven. But. The people were displeased. He's gone to be the guest dettori center that grumbled. There's a lot of religious people. That had never met Jesus. And when you go out and meet Zaccheus. Don't expect everybody who's religious to support you that. Okay. See not everybody in life has that they're chit their life has changed overnight we know that but there's a progression of change. There's okay God what what what else do you see in me? What else do I need to address? There's always a growing in the I'm growing more adjoining statement I'm growing giving I'm I'm moving those directions. My thought is this. What if the answer to when people talk to us about things are answer was? I met somebody. So, for example you. Says what's going on with you you you don't go out and drink with us in party you with us and you know. On Friday night for used to. Why don't you want to drink anymore I met some money. Jesus. You. What is it about you? You have such do you smile time in yet I know what's going on in your life you just lost your job. How can you be smiling? I I met somebody. I've met Jesus. You, you living together not living yards you get married or yeah. No, we're getting married. Well. Why did you move out? I met somebody. Jesus and I want to do what he says is right in my life. What would that be if we can? We truly meet cheeses and people see that. Before it closed off. Process. Last couple things you talked about giving. and. His mission becomes mission what's going through your mind? Versus pop into my head but one of them being the from the bundles of my heart or my mouth who speak if I really if I really come to a place where I've met Jesus that will come and show. Not on the weekends but every day of my life. You know we we have a saying with with our wishes he was on when we come to do on the weekends, it's just just a reflection of our relationship with God throughout the week five met, Jesus. That will show that that will come out. That's what I speak. That's why. In, and that's what comes to my mind is challenging myself in that is. In my doing that what's in my heart is that what's coming out? You know what I mean when people when I'm talking with. My family whatever may be what's coming out of my heart. Because, and that's what I've met because like you said when when you met someone you WanNa talk about it all the time and you know and this and that and. I truly Jesus. I WanNa talk about him all the time I wanNA live it out. Something, you said earlier keeps playing over my head and actions speak louder than words by his mission is becomes your mission and you know you're it's reflection and. It really pulls me back to when I was a younger and my Auntie. Would be. Coaching US children, and developing us in teaching us when we were doing things wrong and she never really got harsh with us. But she she always used the phrase actions speak louder than words. You know what you're supposed to be doing. I'M NOT GONNA. Tell you what to do. You know where you're supposed to be right now she smart woman very smart woman and that really Kinda hit a nerve with me today because they think bow where are. Where world is where a country is with a lot of different things and it. It. It's obvious that. People. Aren't. Taking. Action And they're not following through with what they know they're supposed to be doing. They know. They know in their hearts now and they just continue to do whatever they wanna do for whatever reason. And so I. I feel like. It's more important than ever that we come together and we allow our actions. To be so bold and vibrant and out there even if they're small things, I feel like the small things are going to build up, they're going to be bigger and better, and it's going to hopefully cause a tidal wave of changes. person by person by person. Thank. You just hit it on the head. You know you said, Jesus love can change people. And not everyone is willing to see that or come to church or open up the Bible, and so it's truly how our love Jesus's love through. US can change those around us. Absolutely. God's Church had truly met Jesus and the evidence of that just talk about that actions speak louder than words were these things. With, that change. Culture absolutely. Absolutely would. And you're right this one by one because. There are millions of Zakia says out there. Billions executives is out there. So Nice about it. I'd like to see a miracle can I can encourage you can. Look in the mirror. You're the miracle for the Zaccheus. You're the miracle. If we truly met Jesus and these things are there. Things we've talked about that man we obey. We obey what he says excitement and joy we give and his mission becomes our mission. Mandolin. You're what happens. Then one by one we see people. We call them by name. We build a relationship in their home, our home, and they meet the person that changed our life. and. That's how we change it one person time. Absolutely. Well. I encourage this week maybe continue to walk through this story and say, God. Would you talk to me about this? Hamas Zaccheus. How do I need to be you in these if we do that? We will see God work in ways that we've only dreamed about. Let's pray. Father Thank you for your word. Your word is alive to his thank that this is not a story that something to happen two thousand years ago. Got This is us. This is our story got worse at Kiss. Got Forgive me for the Times that I've hid from you. God for the things that I've done yet got craze it is you see me I can never hide from you always see me you copy my dame. Guide you. WanNa come into our home. You want you can have a relationship and then got in that relationship. You change everything. So God I. Pray For for every person that's listened. God is an area we've not surrendered. Cod, given it up that we're holding onto just as the Australian that Jonathan had. That were still holding onto something that we'd let it go. We just let it go and give you everything. God, we'd obey you immediately on everything. God that we have. Great Excitement. Great joy as we come into every situation especially when we get a chance to come into your word. Is We come into worship. God that we'd have an understanding of what it means to give and give generously of our time of resources that guide your priorities would come are passionate your mission become our mission. Got and doing so that we would see thousands and tens of thousands of others, meats, cheeses as well and their lives change forever. We love you. We thank you for all you do we ask your name? A man. Thanks again for listening to hear more messages like this one. Make sure to subscribe in check out our podcast Jennifer pass messages, and if you like what you're hearing considering evening, sharing it with your friends helped so much. 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#633: The World and Vision of Lakota Medicine Man Black Elk

The Art of Manliness

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#633: The World and Vision of Lakota Medicine Man Black Elk

"If you're on the road and listening to this, it doesn't matter where you're going across town to run errands or cross country with family with Jiffy Lube. Anywhere is possible. Your skilled technicians are huge change oil plus so much more, and they're committed to keeping you and your vehicle moving forward. So you celebrate from anywhere work from anywhere or connect from anywhere checkout Jiffy, Lube Dot com to find a Jiffy Lube near you now more than ever anywhere as possible with Jiffy Lube. Brett McKay here and welcome to another edition of the art of manliness podcast. When he was nine years old in eighteen, seventy, two, black elk number. The LAKOTA tribe had a near death vision, which is called to save not only as people, but all of humanity for the rest of his life Black Elk's vision hunted and inspired him as he took part in many of the similar confrontations between the LAKOTA. LAKOTA and US government, including those of little big Horn and wounded. Need my guest. Today is the author biography of this holy Man Amas. Joe Jackson in his book is Black Elk, a life of an American visionary. We begin our conversation with the background of the Sioux Lakota Indians including how the introduction the horse turn them into formidable hunters and warriors and how their spirituality influenced their warfare Joe Dinner. Dinner uses to Black Elkin and foles division that he had as a boy which lead him to follow in his family's footsteps by becoming a medicine man and guide him for the rest of his life. We didn't take detours into the seminal battles to the US government and Lakota that black witnessed firsthand as well as the sundance go stance rituals which helped catalyze them Joe then explains by blackout converted to. To Catholicism Indian wars, how he fuse LAKOTA spirituality with his new found faith? We discussed by black elk decided to tell his vision to a white poet named John. Nine Heart in the cultural influence. The resulting book black elk speaks had on the West and the twentieth century we and our conversation discussing whether black elk ever felt he fulfilled his vision after shows over are shown on a whim dot. com. Black Elk. Right Joe, Jackson welcome to the show. Thank you for me. So you're the author of black elk, the life of an American visionary, and this is a biography. Of a famous Lakota holy man, Prophet Medicine Man Black Elk I'm curious what led you down the path to to writing this biography. Well, I had written a book prior to this about the air race that made Charles Lindbergh famous and and one of the things that I discovered was that the process by which this was in the nineteen twenties, the process which Americans discovered and created, and then destroy secular Holyman, the momentary media saints, and that made me start to think what does it really mean for a society or a group of people to call somebody holy? What is what is holy really mean? And I I thought of doing biography of the Catholic. Writer Thomas Merton. But there had just been a biography written of him well, about five years ago or something like that. Then I started thinking about blackout because I remembered that. Remember, two things. One Blackhawks, one of my favorite books when I was in either high school or College, and secondly at the turn of the twentieth and twenty. First Century, is there was this colloquium of college theologians and they were ask, Rudy thank was the. Premier Holy Men of the twentieth century in the majority said blackout and I thought well. Now, that's really interesting because this is from a country that tried to. Wipe out his his kind of religion to, and then when I was researching a book, I didn't know this at the time when I started researching the idea I found that there was a move to turn Black Elkin to Catholic sate and that that made it even more interesting because once again at the time, it was the Catholic tried to stand up blackouts type of religion. So there are a lot of different things going. Going on a lot of different trails, I could go down and seemed like a perfect book to work on. So this is a biography of black elk, but it's also a history or bagger few of the LAKOTA. So let's start there for a big picture over you for people who aren't familiar with the Lakota plains, Indians, where were they from originally because we know them for being on the planes like the DAKOTAS or whatever. They were there originally how they end up there and we'll start from there. Well. The first place they were. At least recorded in white histories was in. Michigan, around Michigan around the Great Lakes and they were. Forced out by white settler pressure and they started moving across the plains. Some State of Michigan others others moved across the northern plains. What's now like Minnesota North Dakota South Dakota. But at that time when that happened, they were still afoot, they weren't really core soldiers life. They became famous for being so and so it was a slow process of moving west and there were three or four clans. The most famous of the clans were blackouts which were the aglow Lakota. and. That was also the clan of crazy horse and the other clan. was came quite famous was sitting bull's clan, which was the hunt Papa. and. So they moved West until they came to the DAKOTAS. Then they kind of started separating out onto in each clan had. It's kind of territory sitting bull's clan was in the northern, most of the United States in what is now north. Dakota and at least among the LAKOTA. The southernmost clan blackouts who are down right around where the Black Hills are of South Dakota today, and for people I think it's important to note Lakota also known as the SU. So yet that can be confusing people like the Sioux Lakota. Those are different tribes notes to the same tribe. Yeah, the was the sue is pretty much. It was a Basset. The the name sue is a bastardisation of a French word for them and so but their name for themselves was always the LAKOTA. LAKOTA. So you mentioned they weren't their famous for Being Planes Force Warriors Cavalry. Planes. voyeurs. But it always didn't have the horse wind today when they introduced the horse when they start incorporating that into their culture. Nobody's really sure about that. But in the whole horse culture spread up from the south, there were a Spanish horses that escaped and bread, and then the commands were the first American tribes to become. Become, really proficient horseman over time it spread North. They think that the Lakota discovered the horse and started writing sometime between seventeen, fifty, eighteen, twenty, there were Lakota historians. They would kind of like drop pictographs on these deer skins, and the first time that the Lakota were were recorded to have caught a horse was to cut or have stolen a horse was eighteen o one somewhere between eighteen o one and eighteen twenty, the the became quite proficient in how did it change their culture? Oh, completely I mean they were. They were a foot. So before then. So in our, they were pretty much at the. The mercy of the elements and then Almaz, a sudden, they started writing horses, they could run down the the Buffalo, they kind of natural recklessness bravery to them as they became more proficient hunters. Then they became warriors and because they were so good. So daring and so reckless, they became some of the most feared or at least the most successful warriors on the northern plains as they moved west towards the black. Hills. And then even farther west towards the Rockies, they would come up against other tribes like the crow who had been in. You know these this early kind of paradise of hunting grounds over. Over, Wyoming for a long time, and they would fight for years over the hunting ground and the reason they were such a feared martial society was because they were so good on their horses and there also a very, highly spiritual component to their where cultures well, correct. Very much. So when you were young man and you were going to become an adult, you would go through a vision quest. You would fast, you would go out into the hills, you would starve yourself. You would go into a sweat lodge and you would you would seek vision, and since in highest attainable position or the highest Life for a young man was to be a warrior than you are seeking vision. The had something to do with your prowess as a warrior in many times. The visions that you that you were given from the Gods would tell you what you would have to do before battle or how what kind of life you would have to lead in order to be. Be a pure warrior, and they basically were a code of conduct either for your life or for your conduct right before the battle. So it was a very important thing, religion and spirituality among the aglow were were very tied up in in battle and hunting and hunting a kind of battle in itself, and we'll talk about how that connection between spirituality and warfare. That's eventually what led up to and wounded knee and some of these, the conflict between the government and the LAKOTA. So we've kind of lead up. We talked about, what's the LAKOTA where they from their culture, the development of the warrior culture. They had let's talk about what was the state of US government and Likud relations at the time of black. Elk's birth and childhood. So blackout was burnt burnt around. I. Don't remember exactly, but around eighteen. I. Think Eighteen, sixty three. The LAKOTA considered the area from the Black Hill. The northern plains, what we call the northern plains today, but especially. West past the black hills up to the up to the to the ROCKIES, they consider that a great hunting ground I. Mean. It was. There was a lot of game up there and there was. It was great camping, and it was just a it was just an easier life for them Anna around this time. Gold was discovered in Montana. They're all of these. These trails West. From that went through the center of the United States. But then my started going north and they started a started invading their the code is hunting ground, and that led to a war that led to a war that was called Red, cloud's war where there were a number of. American us, army forts along this northern trail, and the Indians attacked these forts incessantly. Basically shut down this this trail that the miners were using and the Indians eventually after massacring a bunch of soldiers in a place outside of Sheridan, Wyoming called the Fetterman massacre and besieging these forts for a long time the Su one, the only they won what was called red clouds or it was the only four. The native Americans were acknowledged as winning in US history. So he was born during this is father five at that massacre that I was talking about he was badly wounded. He would always be Kinda lame red cloud's war ended around nineteen, sixty, five, eighteen, sixty, six, eighteen, sixty, seven, something like that. And from then until. Around the time of. The custer massacre, there was relative peace. There were there were skirmishes, but there was relative peace. And there were negotiations for land in large tracts of land belonging to the Indians in the Indians alone which was. Over time being invaded by white miners, again, blackout was born in a time of war. But, his first ten years, ten eleven, twelve years. Most of that was a time of peace. It was also during this time you you saw the rise of these great chief that we know today ratcheting bowl crazy horse and I mean crazy horse would fight would fight other tribes, but he would also mean during red cloud's war. We don't really see sitting bull during red cloud's war nets. It's kind of too far south for sitting bull, but we do start to see. Crazy horse coming to ascendance during red cloud's or I. Mean, he was a he was Because of his success as a As a warrior, and also as a tactician, he was always very good at tactics. He rose in prominence as one of red cloud's major lieutenants during during that war and speaking of that connection between spirituality and bore crazy horse had visions i. Had Thunder visions like he had like the God, speak to him that he was going to lead his people against the whites as long as he adhered to certain standards as delineated in his visions. Then he would never be touched by a bullet and he would lead his people are more and and he was this holy man of of war. This kind of like holy, Madman I, mean he just charge straight into into the line of bullets or charge at opposing tribe, and he would a recap it and come out the other end unscathed. He had many many followers there were. There were lots of young men, young warriors who really respected crazy horse. Blackout was the younger cousin of crazy horse. Crazy horse was actually the second cousin to blackout. So as blackout was growing up crazy horse was right there. He was like you know his mentor in a way and crazy horse started pay a little bit more attention to blackout after blackouts seemed to be touched by the gods. In some way, not everybody really understood it. I will let's talk about that and fairly black elk's immediate family because it seems like because. Because of his his family lineage, he was destined to become a great medicine man. Yeah. I, mean the family business was being medicine man being a holy man and there were there were two types of holy men. There are the ones who had visions and were in touch with the guides, and there were the ones who healed. It was almost like in a way. It was like medical school I mean, you could go on and you could try to have. Tried to be both and in time, that's what our black elk was. He he was both a spiritual leader, a holy man who was in touch with God's. But he also was a healer at a very early age. She started hearing voices, which eventually turned into a near death vision that he had when he was just nine years old and this, this is the moment. This is like the seminal thing for blackout that would guide him for the rest of his life and would influence his decisions he made. So walk us through that vision like. How did it start and then like what did he CNN? Okay. So he like you said, he had he would be a you know just a a little kid and he'd be out on the plains playing, and all of a sudden somewhat wouldn't speak to him and he'd look around nobody was there even though culturally the Lakota supported visitation from the gods a lot more than white culture. Does that mean? If you heard voices, you weren't necessarily. Immediately sent off to the psychiatrist at the same time, it would appear that the Lakota were were fairly cautious about it. I mean a lot of people could fake that they didn't want to have fake holy men around. So blackout when he was younger, he kind of hid this from his family, he didn't want his family to thank you was crazy, and then when he was nine they. They were his family was traveling west to go to a annual influence of all the tribes over in in the over in the Black Hills, and he fell into a coma. He got really sick and he fell into a coma I is legs gave out, and then he had an extremely high fever and you know you can't really tell what people historically people fall ill love but. It did seem like he had childhood meningitis or something like that. I mean, he came really close to death. And for nine days, he was in a coma and during those nine days when he was in a coma, he had his vision in which he was lifted up into the clouds where the spirits were. The grandfather's they're basically just like in. The Catholic Church Trinity, there were six grandfathers and he was given a vision that if he went on this quest and overcame the dangers then he would be given. Powers and tools that would that would save his people from the coming quite encroachment. By this time, we're talking the early eighteen seventies. By this time, it was pretty evident to all of the Kota that they were going to be overrun by white culture that they were gonNA, lose their land and it was a a coming apocalypse, and so everybody was pretty much worried. So he went off on this quest is very much a kind of Joseph Campbell type of hero quest and he back with these powers and the the grandfather's bring him to the in their. The kind of the cloud lodges has this. Vision of millions of horses dancing in front of him. He has these visions of what he must do to save his people from. From the whites but complicating matter is also that his powers are not just for the LAKOTA, it's for all people in time he would come to. Think well, that means everybody even the enemy, but he didn't really understand that when he was when he was nine, he comes out of his of his coma and from the time that he is nine years old until he is in his twenties. Eighteen eighteen ninety when wounded knee takes place, he feels that it is his. It is his responsibility to save his people. Die Free Had his vision to tell anybody about it or do you keep it to himself? He kept it to himself until after the. CUSTER massacre in eighteen, seventy, six around eighteen, seventy, seven, eighteen, seventy, eight, eighteen, seventy, nine, and began to have these these streams again. He's been began to hear these voices again and they were more threatening. Now, it's like now is the time you have to do what have to do, and he always felt that I did not do what the Gods told him to do that. He'd be wiped out that he would be annihilated, but he didn't know what to do. And he just grew more and more panicked until finally, he he had a huge panic attack and his parents took him to some to some medicine men some Hollyman within the tribe. It was like a psychiatric session I. Mean, he was a group psychiatric session. I mean, he told him about his dreams. He told them about his vision and they listened and they were quite impressed because in a way, his vision had an a very sophisticated way for one. So young his vision encompassed a lot of Lakota cosmology and they basically said that you've got to. Somehow, perform your your vision to the tribe. You've got to prove yourself as a holy man that was when he publicly added himself as somebody who had these visions, and that's when he like. He basically replicated the horse stance that he saw his vision, he replicated the horse dance and it was a huge success because it was so successful, he was honored in because it was so successful, he had a lot more. Confidence in his own abilities. 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Well, what happened was that after red-clad one, his war, the American government said, there's this huge swath of the northern plains that belongs to you all the Lakota we're not going to invade this. But in eighteen seventy, five, George custer led a a scientific and military expedition into the black. Hills. which was a very holy place for the for the LAKOTA. Considered that that's where they got their lodge bowls where they hunted. That's where they. That's where the spirits were thought to reside, and so custer came with a huge huge force of men and a huge force of light, a wagon train and scientists and everything, and they discovered gold not a lot of gold. But they discovered gold immediately, quite gold miners flooded into the area and deadwood is now kind of like you know what was the main goal town? You can still see today, the US government had had reneged on its treaty which the Indians considered sacred and they were really upset about this and that proved to them. The very thing that they had been worrying about all these years, which was that that the whites were going to overrun their culture and they're going to wipe amount and so in eighteen seventy six, there was a huge conclave and sundance. That was it was called to the West towards where the little big horn was. This was the moment when when sitting bull becomes really important in American history because. Sitting Bull's clan was the hunt Papa and the hung pop, a had this huge Sundance Anna. Sundance was basically a way of torturing yourself into having having visions and sitting bull had a vision in which he saw two giant waves of approaching forces. To big clouds meeting head on, there was a battle and then American soldiers in uniforms started falling to the ground headfirst, which meant that they were killed, and so sitting bull basically prophesied a huge battle between the US army and the. And the Indians and in there are thousands of Indians who had come together for this for this conclave. and. They kept moving west towards the rockies and they eventually camped over at little bighorn at the same time. The United States government had said every all up to live on reservations, and if you're not on a reservation, we're going to hunt you down and so there was a three pronged hunt to find this huge number of Indians. George custer, a small band of men found him first and they were wiped out, and that was like on June twenty, six, eighteen, seventy, six, or something like that. You walk us through the Sundance because it's it's a really intense ritual. I. Mean. It starts off the way they look. They stare at the sun I mean they. They literally look at the thrown. Luther. Blind is basically, and then what goes on after that? It basically four stages of the Sundance, which is basically four days of the Sundance at least as it was at least as it was practiced. Practiced in this best known sundance of sitting bull's before the little bighorn you fasted. You were in a sweat lodge you. You know there was sage that was burning around you, and then on each of the successive days you went through these ordeals, which finally culminated on the fourth day with the most famous ordeal, which was the one where a medicine man would slice the muscles in your head. And one on each side. Any would insert a ride through through this lies. The Rod would be attached by leather thongs to the top of this this tree for that day you and you were also given this long rod or stick that you held onto, and for that day, you tried to pull yourself loose from the poll. Many Times. You would see sundance who had multiple scars over their lives where they had pulled themselves loose. And while you were doing this while you were dancing while you were trying to pull yourself loose, you would supposedly stare into the sun now. Later, some informants would say that you didn't necessarily stare straight into the sun cause. You would have gone blind would stare into a spot below the sun, but it was close enough to the rays of the sun that you are. You know pretty much. Pretty much blind for day and between the pain and the fasting and staring at the sun getting loose from the poll or not. There was a lot of pain and suffering there and pretty dramatic visions would come out of that, and the other thing it also did is there are a lot of people who were invited to these Sundance's who weren't part of the LAKOTA, they were amazed by the by the extent of suffering these guys went through in. So in a way, it was also kind of A. Public demonstration of how tough the the Lakota were, what what, what bad ass is they were and I mean. It was supposedly a pretty amazing spectacle and while you're doing that I, mean there were a lot of people that that the tribes would sit around and white. So it was it was a very public ritual of suffering. and. I think one of the aftermath of the battle, little big Horn of the government. This is like when the government started your this idea like we gotta start killing the Indian inside of the Indian and one of the one of the ways they did that you know since they saw the connecting the sundance and the battle little bighorn, the US government started basically trying to prevent Sundance's from happening after that point, right? Yeah, they. Had A lot of dances like that I mean later on, we'll see another dance count the go dance, which was nowhere near as violently as inclined as the as the Sundance was, but it was a dance. There was an Indian dance and the American government and the American settlers feared it especially since the Lakota were the ones who were. Doing it basically, what happened was that the US army hunted him Dan and forced the all the. Pretty much into slowly into the reservations and so for Mateen seventy six until the early eighteen, eighty s you've got the. Of the Indian tribes going into red reservations, and once the the tribes were in the reservations and they could easily control an outlaw these rituals. And the other thing that happened was each of the at least in the early days, each of these reservations were even though the government controlled it, they were really kinda run by different religious sects, and so you know one one survey Shin somewhere might be I'd be run by the Episcopalian somewhere else. It might be by the Presbyterians and we're blackout lived. It was the largest still is the largest reservation in the United States, and that was run by the Catholics and the Catholics kind of impressed the Indians because the LAKOTA because they they seem to have a certain magic to themselves. You know the robes and the big crosses and all that kind of stuff, but at the same time. At that time, they really tried to stamp out the Indian beliefs, and so we're talking we're talking the eighteen eighties when they were really trying to stamp out the Indian believes some little big born happens blackhawks family day end up on the reservation. They didn't. They went to Canada for a little bit ended up in back on the reservation during this time, black oak was recognized basically publicly by his people as holy man. But then he goes on link kind of I. Mean. This is kind of interesting detour in his life. He connects with wild bill, cody Riley joins him on his wild, West. Circus show that went to go see the queen of England. And know, and that was kind of a road trip for always for all these young guys I mean by now, blackout would have been in his early twenties. Round eighteen, eighty, six, or so cody had already been in theater. He had a wild west plays on the Chicago stage. And he kinda dreamed up the idea of these traveling wild west shows. I mean, there were like circuses on on horseback in the first couple of years. They didn't really do that. Well, then he began to understand that what people were really interested in working the or the Indians in the first Indians that he hired when he went down to Louisiana where the Ponti. But over time, he put out this casting, call the different reservations saying if you ride with me on these low bill, wild west shows, I'll take you go round. The United States, you'll get paid. If you're married, your wife will get paid about half of what you paid or maybe a quarter and you'll in, you know it's it's a road trip and you're you're making money at the time when there weren't a whole lot of jobs to be held on reservations. So around eighteen, eighty, six or eighteen, eighty, seven, Buffalo Bill. Pretty much comes to Pine Ridge where the glory and says, you know we're hiring actors, Indian actors for the wild west show and black wasn't sure he wanted to join up because you know he was a healer and his reservation during my Wisconsin reservation period children are dying and it was. A tough time, but blackout was starting to think, well, the Indian ways aren't saving my people. Maybe I should see why the whites are so powerful. When East with his friends on the Buffalo. Bill? Tour. And he went to Madison Square. Gardens. And he really he really enjoyed it, and while he was in Madison Square Gardens Buffalo, Bill Swing a deal with Great Britain I mean Queen Victoria was having her fiftieth anniversary, and so it was the Golden Jubilee I. Think I, remember it being an, and so they went for Madison Square Gardens over to England, and he rode as one of the Indians in London, and then he was a very dancer because you know as a as a holy man medicine man, you have to be able to dance, and so he was one of several Lakota performers who danced before the Queen, and that was that was kind of a terming moment in the In blackout speaks because he says something like you know she was short and Pudgy, but she was very nice and she grabbed my hand and she said, you know you said Nice things to them, and so it was. kind of a it's. It's kind of a really nice section in in blackout speaks when he makes it back to America. Things are starting to change again on the reservation amongst the LAKOTA, and there was this movement. You referred to earlier this ghost dance movement. What was the impetus behind the ghost dance movement? What was its purpose, etc. Well, the ghost dance movement was there had there had actually been there actually two ways of the ghost dance movement in the in the rockies down around. Nevada. Around I. Don't know about eighteen, eighty eight or something like that. There was a a first wave and it was basically that if you religiously dance this this dance, the the dancers will be chosen and they will be delivered away from from this veil of tears, kind of like the rapture and and Protestant theology, and then it Kinda died for a little while, and then around eighteen ninety, the gas stance began to. Spread East along the Northern Plains and a Lotta tribes started dancing. Basically, it was a long dance and it was an endurance. And as you danced united. He. Didn't have anything to drink or eat your your fasting, and as you're dancing, if you've fainted from exhaustion than you dragged out of the line and you would have a vision and became. kind of a public spectacle, a public religious spiritual spectacle was. Kind of group cohesiveness. There was this idea that sometime in spring eighteen, ninety one if the ghost dancers. Adhered religiously to the strictures of the ghost dance that Ali e enemies would be killed. And only the Indians would survive and those family members, those Indians who had been killed by the whites in the past would come back and so it's very much like what millennial movements I mean. You know such and such a day. The end of the world is going to come and the only ones who are going to survive are the chosen. It's almost exactly the same and in many ways this. This it was. It was a millennial movement. In many ways. It had a lot of hallmarks of the kind of, Christianity, that that Indians all over the planes had been learning during the reservation period, which once again, like I said, was the eighteen eighties in most places. Nothing really happened. I mean, the agents in charge of the of the reservations they said, let them dance I mean, it's not A. It's not a violent movement, but people were scared of the Su- because of what happened at the little bighorn and so when the ghost dance reach the sue the US army moved in and then part of the ghost dance was his idea of ghost shirt rather could wear this that would protect you from bulletin blade. Yeah, and it's really interesting because I mean, it was supposed to be an impervious shirt. It was a wholly shirt. If you wore this shirt, then you protected and according the Black Elk, I mean a Lotta, he spent a Lotta time making these shirts. You would kind of like, you know, say a prayer overman paint. Them and that kind of stuff. It's interesting the reservation. East of Pine Ridge called the Rosebud reservation and there is a There is a Lakota Museum in the the Catholic Church there, and there is a ghost densure that still been preserved and it's a, it's a long kind of loose shirt with many times that'll have a like a painting of an Eagle Eagle or a thunderbird or something like that on it. I mean they're always there. I. Mean. They're faded by now, but they're kind of elaborate and always have a lot of ribbons kind of beautiful and and you said even though black took part in the ghost dance movement making the golf shirts and doing some the. Way, you described it in black elk speaks kind of ambivalent about the ghost dance. Yeah, he wasn't really sure about it because I mean there had been different movements and remember even by then I mean, he's still in his early twenties even by then he still believes somehow he's going to find the key to his vision. He's going to, he's going to understand he never really completely understood his vision, and so he kept going over and going over it and trying to figure out how can I make this? Right? How? What is the secret? What do I have to do to make my? Come true and to save my people and he wasn't really sure that that the ghosts dad's was in line with his vision. But then he at the invitation in one of his friends, one of his family members he went down to the. To a ghost dance, probably about ten or twelve miles south of where he lived, and it was in this area called wounded knee, and he washed this ghost dance and there were a lot of similarities between his between his vision and the ghost dance as it was being danced, and so he thought well, maybe it's the same thing and that's when he joined and you mentioned that. When they first started doing the ghost dance to agents, just let them do it. But then this like the Sundance is led up to another conflict between the LAKOTA and the US army. Yeah. It was really more of a massacre on unlike the little bighorn, there are a number of ghost dancers including up on sitting bull's northern reservation and. The US army and the government were very afraid of them and they started moving the. They started moving the army and sitting bull had a number of ghost dances where he was and there was a confrontation and he was killed, his people started moving south and they collected some other. Suicide they started moving south. And the US Army. Knew about this and they were, they didn't need. It's hard to find people on the planes, and so the army was mobilized around Pine Ridge to try to catch these refugee ghost dancers and hand to stop the dancing by the time that that this band came into. Pine. Ridge. They were led by this this old chief by the name of bigfoot they were it was. was during the winter, it was in December eighteen ninety, they were starving. They were frostbitten were in really bad shape, and they turn themselves in to this column of US troops and they were soon brought to this camp down at the down at wounded knee. The same place were blackout could encountered his first ghost dance and they were giving food. They were given shelter. And then the next day, the soldiers lined up around them and demanded their their rifles and the young men didn't want to give away the rivals and shooting started in the very beginning of the battle, the Indians N. and the soldiers pretty much gave as as well as they took, I, mean, the casualties were just about even. But the army also had what was called a hotchkiss gun, which was a kind of small mountain cannon had two or. Or three of those that had brought along. It was up on this hill to the north of where the fight was taking place and they started shooting down into the Indian, started running after the first wave of battle and the inserted running south, and the hotchkiss guns started firing, and that's where it became a massacre, and that's when children women and children began to be killed in the latter stages of that I mean, that's not very far. Far, from where blackout by now is back from from London and they heard the shooting, and that's where blackout grabs a horse and he starts to ride towards the sound of the shooting and he collects a lot of young men behind him, and they try to save some of the refugees, some of the women in some of the children, and that's that's that's the part of wounded. Need the battle of wounded knee that you see in blackout. Blackout speaks he arrives at the end with other the man to try to save the people being killed and I'm sure it's vision was going on in his mind. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Yeah. You Know How do I? You know? Why can't I? How has this happened? Why have failed? Why did I allow this to happen? Just be because I never understood my vision? Well, enough in on, you have the fame passage where he sees he sees them. In all these women and children in a dead or dying heaps over to the side, and it was like it was the end of a dream. It was a beautiful dream, but it was all you know lying in blood in the snow in the dust, and that's pretty much where blackout speaks the book ends. That's not where blackout story ends wounded. Knee is pretty much thought of as the. Last battle between the US army and the native. Americans in US history is actually one or two little skirmishes after that. But that was the last big campaign. Will it after this? What happens black elk do? He goes into kind of existential limbo? I? Mean, we don't hear anything of in Eighteen, ninety one. Eight ninety two you start to hear of them again, he's I mean lots, lots of people. Especially, kids are dying from White Diseases I. Mean. There's there's a epidemic of whooping cough just killing measles, but especially whooping cough, which is killing off young Coda, and so for the eighteen, ninety s he trying to save is people with his his healing. He also gets married around to his first wife and has three children around eighteen, ninety, three from eighteen, ninety three until about Nineteen O. Three or nineteen, O four, he He tries to save his people people as a healer, but his wife dies until two of his children die and his mother dies and his dad dies and all these people that he knows her dying and they're dying from diseases and he's getting more and more depressed thinking more and more I failed. My people are old beliefs. They don't have the power of the white believes. What can I do? And then in nineteen o four. He has a confrontation with a Catholic priest. And, many times what would happen during this period. This is a period of religious transition for the LAKOTA. Individual LAKOTA would think do I want to be Catholic WanNa stay the same as I keep the old ways. And a family member would die and the family would call in both the Catholic priests and the the native priest now is I guess a way of hedging their bets and blackout. Kinda came face to face with one of these with one of these priests. It wasn't the first time. He came face to face with one of these priests, but and he was known by these priests news known as a powerful and respected medicine man, and if they could convert him to Catholicism, that would be a a coup for them. And back was depressed because his children had died and his wife had died and he had a really bad Al-Serr. Mick and sometime in nineteen thousand four, he just gives up and he's he waits outside after the priest is finished giving last rites and the priests comes up to him and says, you look pretty bad. Let me take you to the monastery. And fixed up, he has a operation for an ulcer and he becomes a converted Catholic. He's a strong strong, strong. Catholic. From nineteen afforded nineteen sixteen he goes around the United States converting other. Indians in in other tribes and up into Canada, and supposedly he converted four hundred native Americans in both Canada and the United States to Catholicism, more than any other native American, and that's why the Catholic church is looking into turning him into a saint right now. But that all ended in nineteen sixteen, he stopped traveling in Nineteen sixteen somewhere between nineteen sixteen and nineteen thirty. He didn't stop being a Catholic, but he started practising the old ways again. So it was kind of like a combination of both he was a combination Catholic and an old holy. Man. And it seems like what he was trying to do. was trying to figure out his vision like that was the thing that was like he. He he converted to Catholicism because it thought maybe there's something there that I can take to help me unlock the key to understanding my vision I had. It was always, it was always about the vision. He always believed that the vision was held the key to saving his people and actually just you know as he as an got older to saving humanity, you're exactly right i. mean he became more ecumenical because he always began to think that that other religions might colds secrets that I don't see just from a Lakota point of view and. and. Then this is where this is how we know about black L. Vision because this guy's a poet American poet named John. Neidhart shows up at his blackhawks, house and says you, Hey, I, WanNa talk to you about the old ways and then black elk for some reason because he doesn't really talk all that much trickily to white people says, you're the government until my vision to. I know and that's one of the big mysteries. Well, Neidhart was already kind of known. Okay. So nihar meets blackout a nineteen thirty and he was already kind of famous as a planes poet. He wrote these long long long epochs about the chain. You know the ending of the West and starting with the fur trappers and going all the way to the ghost dancers, and he had just written an epoch about the. About the little bighorn and about crazy horse, and like I said, I mean because black was a holy. He wasn't as well known as chiefs, but had started to get out about this second cousin of crazy horse and and who you know had been around during the little bighorn and been around during wounded name Nihar. was coming with his own son away from a poetry reading some college he goes makes detoured of Pine Ridge goes to the agent. The government agent says, is there anybody here who you know was one of the old holy men who had been around during the ghost stats, the agent talks with some of the old Indian men there, and they said, well, there's this. There's this guy by the name of blackout who is something of a holy man and can directed and where to go and. and. So now, heart you know without just out of the out of the blue shows up in the middle of nowhere at blackouts home, usually blackout kind of like you said kind of politely turned people away. But there was something about Nihar that blackout liked and Neidhart had been when he was younger, he been raised close the Omaha reservation and around Nebraska. and. He traveled throughout the West and he kinda knew the native Americans and he didn't rush the native Americans in conversation he wasn't. He wasn't impatient like Indians kind of new whites to be, and he was also not dismissive of the idea of. Indian religion or in having visions or you know being in touch with the spirits and some of that must have come off because. They sat together for an afternoon new for about five hours and blackout. Finally said the equivalent of got this vision, all my friends around me are dying. He black was about sixty by them. You know and I'm afraid that if I die, I'M GONNA lose division, and I want to Put my vision out to the world, and he felt comf- comfortable with my heart, and so he basically blackout sick basically said deny her come back in a year and I'll have a teaching space ready, which is kind of like a sacred hoop and a teepee and everything, and I'll tell You my vision. and. So blackout and Nihar, first met in nineteen thirty, and then neidhart comes back with his two daughters. One of whom knows shorthand in nineteen, thirty, one named got another. Still they're still in archives like a month's worth of storytelling by blackout, and then blackout speaks appeared as a book by William Oh, nineteen, thirty two, and how was it received initially in the United States. Well the strange for the for the for the public I, mean the the critics. Kinda liked it. They thought that it was often peek into. into the mind of a native American holy man, but it didn't do. Well, I mean, it went into remainders within about six months or so I mean even less than that. And it just kind of disappeared from view. But there were people who liked it and who thought. It was really something special, and then near the end of the thirties, Karl Yune, the psychiatrist, you know the one who was very interested in like the universal unconscious and the power of dreams. He came to give a lecture on religion and psychology at Yale University and somebody came and gave him a copy of black elk speaks. He. Got Alex cited and he went back to Germany went back to Switzerland thinking. I'm going to get this published in German for the Europeans, because Europeans ever since Buffalo, Bill, had been there. They've been absolutely in love with native American culture, but in World War Two came about. And so you know that kind of ended that. But then after the war hyun tried again and he got the blackout speaks published in. German. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, fifty, five, and then as often happens a European intellectual says something America's good than. Americans cameras up and take notice of what's in their backyard. It was republished in English in nineteen, sixty one. The first edition, and that's like the the hippie movement picked up on it and that's It? Yeah, that was. Around. For a while and it was gaining momentum. But then in was like nineteen, Sixty, eight, the Dee Brown's bury. My heart at wounded, knee. Comes out, and then all of a sudden between blackout speaks and bury my heart at wounded knee in all of a sudden night blackout Jenner's new age religion. I mean he he's He becomes a cultural commodity, hinders quite American popular culture. I don't know if you ever saw the doesn't have movie little big man, but the old chief. Who is destined Hoffman's mentor. was modeled after blackout, and so in blackout speaks since then has been, its is been translated into. I'd have to look it up, has been translate into lots of languages, and so after black blackhawks fees got put out there I. Mean What? Would it black elk, think about his vision as he came to the end of his life? Did he did he feel these still feel like a failed prophecy all his life. You felt like you never had. It quite figured out. He didn't do what he's supposed to do or did he feel like he saved his people somehow in the end? Well, I think he was of two minds I. Mean I think he always felt that it never saved his people but? Near after after black elk speaks came out, remember he was sixty anybody was going to die, but he held on until he was light night until nineteen fifty. So. He was he was much older by then by that point, he had also become a preservationists. I mean. He wanted to preserve the old ways, the old religion and the dances and the old Niagara fee and a lot of that was dying out, and at least among the Lakota I. Mean. He was one of the main ones to preserve all that, and there was also even back in the nineteen twenties and Nineteen Thirties nineteen forties, i. mean. There were still. Even though they couldn't do. So publicly, there were young men that that wanted to learn. The old ways wanted to be holyman blackouts started to train them. In fact, one of the a medicine men who was present at wounded knee too. You know in Nineteen, seventy three when the government shouted out with the American Indian movement. He had been trained under blackout blackout was very important for the continuity of and and the preservation of of these old ways and I. Think he understood that and I think that when he died, he felt a certain piece about that. I mean, he seemed to peace when he died. So I mean, what was your takeaway after reading this book? I'm big takeaway like what does it mean to be a holy man? Maybe glad I mean, I'm sure it changed you. I mean change the way you. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's it. It certainly did I mean you know you certainly have an appreciation of other religious expressions and you certainly have a an appreciation of what people go through on their own sort of spiritual quests and I think that I was able to understand that more in fact I. I have a friend who I met a friend. He's been a friends since junior high and he has had like approaching blindness and stuff like that, and he's become increasingly missile, and I never really stood what he was trying to do as he was faced with allies challenges, and after I read the book I think I understood a lot more what he was what he was. Doing going through, there's a lot more on more understanding for me there as far as what it takes to be holy. There's a couple of things that seemed to. Behold famous like black alker. Jesus. Or Buddha Muhammad, you've got to have a society which is changing in a really threatening way. For people. they want something new and. The main personal traits just seems to be endurance. Endurance that as you go through. So many bad things. It becomes a kind of wisdom, but I guess it's a kind of wisdom that based on patience and your own suffering or European contact with other people suffering and trying to help them I mean, that's the main. Takeaway I. Guess. I've got from that. I. Guess. That's the main pattern that I that I that I saw Joe, this has been a fantastic conversation. Where can people go to learn more about the book in your work? Well There are two books to learn more about blackout I mean. Okay. So so they can read my book I mean, that's that's the biography, but they really should read. The NIHAR blackout collaboration blackout speaks they really should do that. And then I mean it's a beautiful book as really sad, and then if they really WanNa, get into it, there is a transcription of black alcs interview with my heart. That took place over a month, and it's called the sixth grandfather and it's kind of difficult because it's it's an oral history and it's got all the catches. It's got all the know olive bat tracks. It can at times can be confusing, and so it's difficult reading. I wouldn't read it until after I read blackout speaks, and then maybe my book. But one thing that's really nice about that is that you see since it's an oral history from blackouts, words, you kind of get a pitcher straight into blackouts mine. So I would do that. If you're really interested in and then you know if you wanna read my other books, I, mean there, I've got a website www joe Jackson books, dot. com. But this is the only book that I've done blackout. Well, Joe Jackson thanks Shaima been an absolute pleasure. As a lot of fun. Thanks for having me. 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Biden's Cancellation Of Permit For Keystone XL Pipeline Faces Mixed Reactions

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Biden's Cancellation Of Permit For Keystone XL Pipeline Faces Mixed Reactions

"Now president biden isn't just focusing on the pandemic one of the first things. He did after his inauguration. Yesterday was to cancel a permit to build the keystone excel pipeline that pipeline would transported crude oil from alberta to the texas gulf coast would have entered the us in montana from their yellowstone. Public radio's kayla roche reports on the mixed reaction to the cancellation tribes and environmental groups. Here and in other states the pipeline would have crossed have been fighting the keystone excel pipeline in court for roughly a decade last year in a video by indigenous collective buffalo defense. Roughly ten for pet tribal members protested in northern montana. They lined up with their hands held up fists and repeated a lakota phrase. That's become slogan. For the movement against pipelines like the dakota access pipeline keystone excel. Johnny were drawing. Water is life. The canadian company behind keystone xl tc energy operates a pipeline which spilled thousands of gallons of oil in south dakota and twenty seventeen and in north dakota in nine thousand hundred activists and tribal members say the pipeline endangers water-quality bricks tribal land treaties and pipeline. Construction brings the threat of human trafficking. Biden's decision to revoke a presidential permit. Donald trump granted canadian developer energy in two thousand nineteen puts a heart stop to the billion dollar project. Among those celebrating was fort belknap indian community council president. Andy work a member of the onny tribe. I'm just really happy. I'm really happy. And i'm really thankful in south dakota the rosebud sioux tribal government. Join fort belknap. In suing to stop the pipeline. Rosebud sioux president rodney bordeaux was busy coordinating cove nineteen vaccinations. When he heard biden cancelled. The permit agreed victory. Hopefully that's the end of it but will continue to fight it we're gonna watch it but pipelines supporters are seeing the collapse of ten years of work. Tc energy which declined to comment for the story. Released a statement in anticipation of the permit cancellation yesterday and said it. Suspending further activity on the pipeline county commissioners in rural northeastern montana where agriculture is the dominant industry said they had been looking forward to the tax revenue which the state estimated at sixty three million dollars. A year extremely disappointed mary. Armstrong a commissioner in montana's valley county where very large county with very few people seems like a perfect place in Perfectly compatible with us montana. Republicans strongly criticized by an institution. But keep an excel has also been supported by democrats here. Including former governor steve bullock and senator jon tester yesterday tester said he still supports the development of the pipeline but with conditions he had encouraged the biden administration to meet with supporters and opponents before making a decision while the pipeline from alberta looks dead for now the premier of that province jason kenney yesterday pushed for consequences the canadian province of alberta invest in one point. Five billion dollars in the project in a statement. Yesterday kenny culver biden and prime minister justin trudeau to discuss the decision. However the us government refuses to open the door to a constructive and respectful dialogue about these issues that it is clear that the government of canada impose meaningful trade and economic sanctions to defend our country's vital economic interest canadian prime minister justin trudeau in a statement expressed. Disappointment invite is decision but acknowledged biden's choice to fulfil a promise. He made during his campaign run for npr news. I'm kayla garage and billings montana.

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Don't Minimize Personhood! | 7/24/19

Pat Gray Unleashed

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Don't Minimize Personhood! | 7/24/19

"Grade is here on the please radio network with with US triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also at PAT unleashed on twitter. We'll tell you what the biggest issue. According to a Gallup poll is with the biggest issue for Americans is <hes> that's coming up in a second also president trump vowed to deport millions. Remember that the actual council far eighteen wait really eighteen people in eighteen family members yeah okay eighteen family members were arrested not enough to fit fill a school bus all right then so they do say I mean I mean this is just the beginning but <hes> it's kind of an underwhelming start so we'll keep an eye on that seems that picks up a little bit fair to say that more illegals have been arrested than miles of wall have been built. Yes that had his fair to say okay. <hes> Mexico set a new record for homicides in the first half of this year. The number of murders grew by five point three percent pair to the same time last year fueled by cartel and gang violence in several Mexican states. The Mexico saw three thousand eighty killings in June three thousand eighty in June two an increase of over eight percent from the same month a year ago. There's one hundred twenty five million people in in Mexico. I mean this is just astounding and now they see as many as one hundred killings a day in Mexico the seventeen thousand six hundred eight killings in the first half of two thousand nineteen the most since since these records began being kept in nineteen ninety seven including the Picquier of Mexico's drug war in two thousand eleven. It's higher here than that. Wow apparently <hes> the turf wars it become increasingly bloody in the northern state of Sonora where the number of homicides was up sixty nine percent in Sinoloa. The cartel of convicted drug Lord El Chapo is based homicides declined twenty three percent without him around. I guess so good okay also <hes> Boris Boris Johnson did win the the election in in England did you did you see the vote tally. No this is like ninety two thousand some to forty thirty four thousand some forty six thousand something like that anyway. He doubled his opponent but in a nation of eighty million you've got maybe a hundred forty thousand votes. Yeah people were probably like hey what's voted voted. I maybe yeah maybe there's elections. That's not my district voting. That must be some other thing going on. I was really caught a blown away in a not a your electing prime minister like eight people showed up for it. That's amazing anyway. <hes> Boris Crush Jeremy Hunt Sixty six to thirty four percent so you're going to have Boris Johnson listen as the Prime Minister of the U._K.. And Donald Trump together. It's going to be fun. That's that's going to be that is going to be fund a lot better. I'm pretty sure they're gonNA get along better than he did with Theresa. May this is it should be interesting some tweets that came in after the show yesterday from seventy-one peeps if Miley Cyrus she. She says she's not going to have kids until she can be sure that there's going to be fishing water gato victor the Fisher they're putting here's already fish in the water trillions of them trillions of Fisher in the water hooding. If miley Cyrus wants to see Z. Fish she should've hang out with Al Gore if she did Miley could watch fish swim up the street on a sunny day. Yeah does seem to lead to the song don't have that ready. no-can-do oh okay Glenn Armadillo hairpiece from the that's from the loudest voice on showtime the Fox yeah behind the scenes that supposedly that's what when when Roger Ailes I saw other publicity photo glenn that's what he called him an Armadillo with a hairpiece. I doubt that happened but anyway <hes> so Glenn's Armadillo hairpiece tweets Keith you'd like gone with the wind. Frankly my dear pat doesn't and give it Dang Darn Tang True Brayden K. tweets as a Sioux city native. I know that the airport code is Sucks S. U.. X.. This is the airport airport where better like that was doing pushups right then that's why he mentioned that <hes> that it's sucks because that's just like just like battle. He sucks I love the but but he was at the Sioux City Airport yesterday and well not yesterday but yesterday we showed the video and the guy is just such an ego maniac and I think it's really hurt him. I think it's a problem because <hes> not only as an ego maniac the AC but he's getting zero attention so you know going insane inside his yeah. This is just a cry for help. Watch at the airport at Sucks airport. Here's what he was doing. pushups shops an acute eighties and so fast he and his squad doing some push ups right yeah while he's acting like nobody's watching from Japan going congressman going me. Oh Wow did somebody notice me it. <hes> <hes> is the continental army still stationed at that airport or have they moved on or no. I don't know they took over all the airport so there they probably are there as well. Okay seriously. That's just cry for help. That's just a guy saying please somebody. Nobody knows me again I used to I used to be somebody in excite people yeah that's over I was this guy was the guy that lost Ted Cruz like just just like I was supposed to claim to fame I know he lost yeah but he he lost by less than thirty so I guess that's impressive. I don't know phenomenal. This downturn in in Romania seems to have started when he when he went out to find himself he got in his car and he drove around. He did that thing with the was it at he was getting a shave or something. No no no no he was what he did. The shave thing the first thing he did that. Everyone was the dentist visit remember that yeah the right and he's like and that was too much for even liberals. I'm going to give you a sub story from someone. Tell us about your immigrant family Oy and then from there and you know before that he was chronicling you know Beto Carrero acquis going around the country talking about pancakes that he had been eating you know and places he was stopping in the middle of nowhere also talking about finding himself yeah he was literally lost. He didn't know where he was to find yourself as the Oval Office apparently apparently yeah well. That's what he was going to figure out. Should I find myself in the Oval Office is that is that a good place to look for myself need to find turtle. That's on the loose Nathan that that's fine. Okay 'cause okay good but he's been on a nosedive ever since and I don't think there's any coming back for Beto. I really don't but by triple eight nine nine hundred thirty three ninety three speaking of the Sioux City Airport where they're abbreviation is sucks S. U.. X. Yeah they decided that it rather than try to find on something else because sucks sounds like you know a negative term. That's what the F._A._A.. Assign Them S._U.. Ex and at first they were probably like we'll wait. That's Kinda crappy yeah but then they were given some alternatives. They didn't like the alternatives were George. W what where does G._W.. Come from what does the F._A._A.. Have Against Sioux City for Sioux City. Why would you G W you is there an airport G. Y.? O. G. Y. T. T. S. G._V. and Gay Gee. Why did they put it in there just as a joke that's let's see what gave you will really give you something? Maybe you alot like look at this S._e._i.. Looking to see if Sioux City Airport you know Sioux City I was available. It's that San Cristobal in Venezuela cares okay. It's Venezuela. They don't deserve that so they they finally gave up and accepted sucks and and in fact not only did they accept it. They started to capitalize on it because they decided well. We could make this cool. Let's start doing cool things with it and that's really smart. It really smart 'cause sucks is a pretty memorable abbreviation for an airport. That's a great abbreviation when you think about it so there they capitalized with t shirts mugs beanies luggage luggage tags all emblazoned with fly sucks. I like I think they should go with sucks to fly. Yes they like this sucks to fly and it really does but also your you know you use sucks airport in to fly wherever you need to go I like it. I love that that would anyway so they're still suffer. These they're still sucks. They decided not to go with gay. No which what would that stand exactly as stand for whether we S._E._A.. Is available through city airport. Oh and no Santa <hes> Catalina airport whatever these little no Sioux city wins. They should get what they want but anyway what's F._A._A.. Doing man with these alternatives they make no sense whatsoever so I'm glad they're sucks. I wish a wish it mentioned what what G._W.. You and G. Y.. O. And all the rest and G. Y.. What are they stand for? I guarantee you they stand for draw three letters out of a hat hat edward and email them to Sioux city. Don't put any effort into it Z.. Lt Wait one. Why Am am this? Doesn't that doesn't have any federal job here. Ed send email triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and PAT unleashed on twitter. We've got so many videos today. I think we need to dive into them. Headlong 'cause 'cause we got <hes> Jeffey here with chewing the fat as well Rashid it to Leib to the end double A._C._p.. About taking bold action here's what she had to say because we all love Rashida to we don't we need bold action folks we do and I know what's happening out there. You know there's all of this young women and it's beyond just the four of us the squad has all of you and I can tell you you are all the squad. Trust me if you you for Support Ecuador Sport Justice. You are one of US okay. I'm definitely not in the squad and I'm proud of the squad. They are really really embracing that yes they are and pushed that forward squad so stupid and at that end of lease EP event. She went on to say how her goal is just to make sure trump is defeated next year. That is her goal. It has nothing to do with you know serving her constituents. It's all about defeating trump well. That's what the yeah that's what the squad is all about. It seems socialism and trump hatred. Meanwhile Nancy Suplicy was speaking to the N. Double A._C._p.. kind of a hard time here's what she had say though me here thank you vaunt imagine the honor to get the end of A._C._p.. At N. Double A._C._T.. Centennial annual anniversary pleasure to be with you here in New York ended right by sees one hundred and tenth anniversary and to make del Shannon a half the House House Congressional Caucus we do must continue stand firm for for fairness for genuine genuine equality once we restore the vote once we break the grass the gas it grows grass special interest do so you must avoid the cavs link blinding blindness a pay raise that is that's in the workplace as we must achieve justice in healthcare dark days of the Revolution Times have found all of us to a future to achieve furniture full of just. That's all we when we leave here. Remember fight we rent when banks compete you win to just remember that apparently though when she was not winning during you fight the English language Nancy. You're not winning how it's not looking good. I'm thinking medication. There's some kind of you know she took something and then it messed her up well. I don't know I wouldn't something's desperately wrong during that particular and obviously they edited the bad parts together but that was a lot of bad parts in one speech <hes> wow where she's really struggling to speak okay. That's the speaker of the House and again you go back to the person who services Congress with his pharmacy and delivers drugs to Congress and talked about some of the medication that he delivered now. He didn't say who it was going to but he was delivering some Alzheimer's Medication to people. You gotTA wonder don't you and she's getting up there. In Age. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that she's not quite right anymore. Wow that's just frightening yeah. It is triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. This is a little frightening to because Google and Youtube aren't just silencing conservatives online. They're also tried to manipulate the algorithms right now to interfere with the twenty twenty election and they've really vowed to do that. Meanwhile companies big companies like Verizon A._T.. And T. are taking the proceeds from your mobile phone phone bill and their funding progressive candidates and causes that includes promoting illegal immigration abortion gun control now the only way we can combat this is to stick together and support businesses who are like like minded with us like Patriot mobile Patriot mobile makes it really easy to switch I. I know you're nervous about switching from from one of the big carriers but it's all the same service. Now you get the same kind of unlimited plans for less money twenty five dollars a month they start as low as twenty five bucks a month. You get the same nationwide service but a portion of your bill goes to causes you believe in and you can even you can even specify hi which causes you want your money to go to now. 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I don't know make it stop or is he. Just I just tell pleasant to change. Conservative doesn't mean the same thing in Britain Tory party. You know right never right. I don't know I don't I don't know I know the Labor. Party is like are Democrats here. Socialists Yeah. Tony Blair was <hes> Labor Party yeah although because of the War I remember before the war Tony Blair was not no but then the war kicked in and he was in that rim rate with that one of my house so Geeky and I just don't care top five speeches of that I remember ever hearing hearing was Tony Blair's speech in front of Congress yeah he was great. You loves this country yeah he does. Oh my gosh. I have such a new respect before nine. Eleven <hes> was like guy was pretty liberal though yeah but he really really aligned with us for a while and I was a big fan for awhile veterans of the Isle of Spice tweets. I'm thinking beddoes. Poetry didn't help him either. All that's what running over kids yes fantasized about. Killing was it thirty six kids by running them over and what was his car thing about a cow. Remember that yeah strange stuff. Oh my Gosh Oh boy you know what Oh maybe. We'll get the story later about cows yeah we got yes. We have another thing. We'll save that for one <hes> Jefferson why I don't know I don't understand the correlation. You're just seemed like that'd be a good time time. Talk about cows. I WanNa talk about them from Bob. Blah Blah the new moniker for the squad should be sucks. You just add it to it though and then it's the squad sucks S. U.. X. Me and then people will think will wise the squad at the Sioux City Airport Diem X._M.. If you ever drive arrived if you've ever driven I twenty nine through Sioux City I have not you know it sucks twenty years under construction. Now I hate. I hate that kind of stuff when we I got to the D._F._W.. I thirty five. I've W was like that because they'd been working on it for years before we got here and then it was years and years while we were here and I think it was last year. They finally finished some but what I don't understand is that the construction is for the most part gone on put. The traffic is still as bad as if there was construction there is the I have lived all over this country pat and I have to never lived somewhere where the traffic flow is the opposite like it's terrible. We'll going into town in the evening. It should be terrible going out of town in evening. We're come on Fort Worth while there's no predicting it. I told you when I had an appointment for the follow up with Dr. It was early in the morning so I had to take the day off awesome and so I thought okay it's drivetime morning drive. It's going to take me. I don't know a week and you get you. You've been burned going into fort worth before over and over and over again. One of my daughter's used to live of kind of south of downtown Fort Worth so it would take a sometimes two hours to get there or more and so I gave myself an hour and a half and to get there and all of a sudden there's no traffic and I get there and thirty five minutes so now I'm twiddling their thumbs at the doctor's office but so it's it's really weird because sometimes when you think it's going to be horrific. It's it's fine or is not. There's not another car on the road and then other times when it's the middle of the day or whatever for one I I mean I can't even figure out what the reason is. You know what it'll be shut down. I'll tell you what will get you there faster than anything is. If you just wrote an electric scooter in rush hour traffic and just we've right in and out of traffic is not a genius plan. No that is not a genius plan. This is so bad. This happened in downtown Dallas Monday and it's so bad our our governor has even commented on it. Here's a guy on one of those dumb mm scooters grow on a bird scooter. My God Dallas during crazy that is nuts and so the video made its way to in front of Governor Abbott and he tweeted out okay. I'm against what is this. I believe leaving less government but allowing these scooters crowded interstate highways is bad government and yes in dangerous things that the government's supposed to take care of in public safety is one and that's a public safety issue. I sorry he he could get killed. Other for people could get killed. That's just stupidity. That's just asinine well then. I'm damned for this guy get to work ahead of me. Come on now right. It's just not fair not fair at all not fair so anyway since only go what ten miles an hour maybe Max axe. Have you seen Russia. It was very little traffic there. Yeah you gotTa Lucky. He's still alive so do we have to wait two years for that law. Though that probably probably triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three <hes> Andy Pat unleashed on twitter also the abusive our police officers continues I mean there's just this is pathetic. This is one of the weirdest I I don't think I've ever seen police abused like this and then they just keep walking they just they do nothing about it. New York City cops being doused with water. Here's one of the instances where New York City they. Are just walking down the sidewalk. <hes> people are throwing water on them. Buckets water and I mean just drenching them. Somebody walks up to that guy and like the end of a football game just pours water all over him and they do nothing they just keep going. There's another one to this happened in a separate place of these two separate things yeah these are two separate instances here. They're trying to make an arrest and they're getting doused. Oh and they throw a bucket to the back of thanks man and they're doing nothing now. If somebody got shot in the head they'd all be whining about it. Yeah you know maybe that's a little severe for buckets of water but something I'm really tragic could have happened. I was trying to find. I read story after story. I could not find what this guy was being arrested for you know who are they taking off of the streets out of their neighborhood. The is probably endangering their safety and yet this is how they're retreated yeah amazing. It's bad it's really bad. There's just no no appreciation for what they do. There's no respect for them. They there's a lot of hatred for him. Because of the misconceptions that police are all bad and they're always after killing minorities that's that's their main goal in life apparently according to <hes> the left and so you can treat with disrespect like that and just dump water on him now you can't do that. Those officers could have arrested all of those people that are dumping water on them but they didn't because obviously they didn't want to escalate anything they didn't WANNA make it a bigger deal deal than it was and they just kept walking but despicable and Rudy Giuliani sounded off said this wouldn't happen if I were mayor in de Blasios just ruined the morale so much and he's told them don't engage engage good evening gay now they get abused terrible seriously something really tragic could have happened to the officers or to any of those little idiots whether dumping water on them and if this goes unchecked something bad well have will happen to that is that that is very true. People just don't understand in the look like the first guy that was being dumped. I don't think he was wasn't a white guy right. Yes panic. I think a White Guy and Hispanic Guy Walking together. I duNNo. It doesn't matter what I guess. If you wear the uniform you're just <hes> disrespected in those <hes> neighborhoods. You're the enemy now yeah really sad for what these guys go through and they never know what they're walking into. Whether or not this could be there last moment on earth or not I mean they really go through a lot and they don't make a lot of money doing it. I don't even know why people want to be police. Officers or is really something amazing inside of them that the drives him to to do that and then they're treated like this is really despicable. Triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three and pat unleashed based on twitter. Also we gotta get into the Cory Booker. Campaign Corey is making some noise because he's great. This guy in the wonderful Bernie Sanders is in some hot spots too because you know he's got the fifteen fifteen hour fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage thing so we had to cut people's hours and now he's been accused of unfair labor practices by some other former employees so the guy that's all about `bout the working class individuals having some rough spots in his campaign. Let me tell you about real estate agents. I TRUST DOT com. This is a thousand agent network with another five thousand in who are waiting to get on the list and their agents who share Glenn's vision of how real estate should be done all over the country so if you've been frustrated trying to buy or sell your house with if no urgency from your realtor no referring <hes> return phone calls not a good marketing campaign then you need to go to real estate agents I trust DOT com. 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Happy Music means it's time would Jeffey <hes> time to chew the Fat Jeff Fisher as long as we are going to start today and we off the air we were talking about the possibility of I don't know food not being brought in here I could start with I was going to save this for later on chewing the fat which you can subscribe to and download the podcast <hes> Monday Monday through Friday for free wherever you get your where we get your podcast aunt Jemima has just now started selling Pancakes Cup now that may not sound good sure as heck would like to try it just add water poverty and a microwave and serve yourself a cup of full a pancake that weird sounds good buttermilk maple and chocolate chip with a little syrup <hes> in a cup intercut baby all right pancake cake in a cup quick note. I'm Nancy Pelosi A- as much as <hes> that's funny and the clip that you just played <hes> within the last half hour sad really scary <hes> <hes> we should start being concerned about Nancy. I analyze whether it's an edited video yeah but still <hes> while still that just highlight I mean that just showed you where all the all the places Inter speech where she had a problem. That's all one speed and that's not the first time no we've seen that from. I'm not alone speaker of the house. It's a problem that's a real problem. Yeah and I mean nobody cares though nobody cares basing remember how treated Ronald Reagan and his last few ears and George Bush George Bush Gosh Yeah Yeah Bush wasn't stumbling around like that he was just saying that we should be able to coexist with fish right. Let's be honest. We should be able to coincide with get a tough that it's either us. Somebody's gotta go. Somebody's so we're we're with you. Don't think Miley Cyrus dream of fish coexist. It's not just because you're doesn't make oh killer probably are probably kill but not necessarily George Bush but that's not Nancy Pelosi the cow I know slurring words not being able to see him four five efforts he's trying to she's trying to add lip through the speed so it doesn't sound speech. I kinda see what where she's going but it's she's screws herself all up. Yeah mad bad really bad a little fun fact. Did you know that <hes> <hes> urban settings are less than three percent of the U._S.. Landmass but contain eighty percent of the total population satanic that is fascinating urban settings are less than three percent of the U._S.. Landmass <hes> eighty percent of the total population in those urban settings so of course wallet hub has to compare the sixty two largest cities based on you know tell you the best large city to live in okay and <hes> you know we can the top five Las Vegas Nevada. Okay okay number four San Diego. Yes Oh my gosh perfect weather lot to do San Diego's great number three of the best larger cities to live in Seattle Washington. Never to the number over to best large city live in Austin Texas no number one. You're going to stay together. The number one is delivered to roll right off your tongue. You're ready saying Jealous Beach Virginia the weight March City Bessler live in number one rigidly Dallas is forty seven forty seven fort worth is thirtieth breath. Where's Houston Houston forty fifth or Salt Lake City? It's all city didn't make the cut oh well which is surprising because I like so it's weird town. It really is Omaha. Nebraska didn't make the list though it did it didn't it did it nineteen. <hes> really yeah and Arlington Texas made the list at twenty five so that's still hear them is a large though if Arlington's on well you know I'm just Virginia Beach Virginia's number one by large edge. They must mean fifty thousand plus at something like that. They ranked them with affordability economy education quality of life. It's <hes> all right devastating news though for Prince Charles I know we've been good news for or a United Kingdom with their with Boris being the new head of the country. He took office for about ten minutes. He's already too divisive because he's like trump. He's being a hundred trump so he's already divisive. You talk about <hes> Glenn used to sell the time because of the way things were going with Obama how slinky was and a calculated. The next guy is going to is going to be a gravy stain guy is he not the epitome of a gravy stain Guy Yup they had enough man yeah they've had enough but <hes> there's a report now that talks about and this is not a surprise but for some reason it seems to be a surprise to other people that <hes> the queen is much more likable than and Prince Charles and so you know the principles getting devastating news that nobody likes you we don't they don't want you to be King Yeah Hello. That's why your mom hasn't stepped down do F- yeah I mean really he's been hanging out to became for a long time in mob is like no I'm not going to die. I'm not GonNa die until you die then. I'll then I'll then I'll step down and give it to William Williams. We the People People Love William <hes> let him take thrown in fact they should if the Queen's should say look F- I stepped down you can be king for a day Jelly and then you step down and give it to William that's overdoing. That's really what should happen. It won't but that's <hes> it really is. They should do is scrap. The whole nonsense is stupid. Yeah nobody cares okay. Let's just stop with the pretend monarchy can we it is mar monarchy for some two hundred years years. You know give it up but to work yeah but nobody else has to be in on it everybody would you you've you've you've torn up the United Kingdom government and now you're tearing up the monarch. Yes I mean it's almost like it's almost like why we left that stupid country in the first place. It's almost like that. It's almost like the fact that actually it is good news coming from Hollywood though when you thought that man what is what are the film's going to do and we've got movies are Halloween has just said that they're going to release a two new sequels coming out in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one back-to-back Halloween sequel so good good good good. I fell we'll be titled. The Halloween kills. It's gonNA open in October. Twenty twenty and it's going to have <hes> both Jamie Lee Curtis and green is going to read is going to direct them again so they're all fired up for the Halloween series man so did they kill Michael Myers or whoever that was Michael is Halloween. You didn't kill him in the last Halloween. Go Don't bug the movie back I don't. I didn't see it but I'm I'm so I'm not sure to be the Halloween between two and all Halloween's was supposed to be the one that was the actual sequel right the actual one. Yes the only one right that you were supposed to pay any attention right. Forget the forty four we did in between those still don't tell Dot Co.. How did nothing happened? That's that's dumb one where as the Marvel Universe plant don't worry about that right yeah that didn't happen. They had the one where they played some kids jingle on on the T._v.. And then the kids turned into spiders coming out of their head or something really weird stuff. Oh that's right number that yes maybe maybe anyway but that doesn't matter because I didn't count yeah that didn't go last week of course was San Diego Comic Con and man we got all kinds of trailers and all kinds of new stuff coming and proof that we are now in APP fatigue here in America coming soon you know we got the reports of net flicks <hes> it's really kind of weird report on that flexibly and not really there they they what they projected didn't happen. So are they struggling. I mean not really but they're just you know. They're not doing what they thought they were GonNa do but Patrick Stewart is announced his New Star Trek movie or show his new show actually called Picard and it looks really good. I don't know if you've seen it yet pat but having the trailer looks looks really good as Picard. Have you ever stranger two times two decades. The data sacrificed his life these I really try to hear. They have a truly felt like home. Do you know everything inside of his emcee for Admiral. I haven't counted a woman she. She came to me for help if she is voicing shoes. She's in serious danger. Sometimes I worry the forgotten who you do not it can't do it alone. Pini help protection to crew captain they remember. She has no idea what she trees now. How are you doing here? Card Saving Galaxy expected that fear for that they may still still excuse me the last one. I don't want the game too. I see that gap that looks and of course C._B._S.. All access so they'll be another APP that you're going to have to pay for. I mean it's Kinda strange because he is almost eighty seventy nine years old now. We just turned seventy nine. That's incredible that all of us. You're going to bring him back now. I mean why not right. He wants to work work and C._B._S.. Has Dumping all kinds of money into their APP. Well make those on blaze radio that was data that made an appearance at the very end of that trailer data and then the they called her seven of nine seven of on show yeah what's her face. I can't remember her name but <hes> she's back. Apparently in this too there was like three or four regulars that came back with Carter than they've obviously introducing new characters but I just find a fashion. Bring everybody back well so they doing the one Jonathan frakes. What was the last thing he was? It is busy busy mown lawn. That's losses you do. I mean when I say C._B._S.. Accesses dumping all kinds of cash into the APP. I'm sure at some point they're like okay. That's enough breath but we can brings new characters on the cheap but you know net flicks is doing it so everybody else's could have put his knee applause H._B._O.. We're we're we're. We're soon to be a paramount network. The Network A._M._C. is creating content. There's other there's other networks creating that you're just going to have to that's all I mean that's APP for individual. You gotTa Wintom Down Man Yeah. I know it's subscribed. I guess you could if you're you know you've got unlimited funds which go hi do not my friend. I thought you're GONNA say unlimited. Difficult GonNa have limited time to be able to try to figure out how to get up for free. We'll Netflix just raise their prices which I think hurt him a little bit in that's why the subscription thing down for the first time in the U._S.. 'cause you know it's getting up there. Close to twenty bucks a month and Wha- what yeah thirteen or fourteen just went up again seventeen to get it on multiple T._V.'s stupid to get it up at least four T._v.'s and then you gotta you gotTa pay another eight bucks. A month or ten bucks a month for the C._B._S. C._B._S.. Thing then you've got an who wants C._B._S.. Until this while they've things I know I'M GONNA have a battle with my wife because I wanNa Watch and then you've got Disney. People are going to want that. You Got Warner and talk about you. Got Your paying extra for N._B._C. Universal for Showtime Yep Your Bait Extra for all of that hall. Everybody's doing it and you're going to. I mean that's GonNa add up all right. Let me tell you about home title deadlock. If if you'd like your home to be protected to the point where I don't know thieves can't steal it from you S- people stealing homes didn't seem like a thing until about a year ago when we found out about this when you know now we've got all of these data breaches were nine hundred million home. Titles and mortgages have been exposed to the cell. You really don't want this to happen to you and there's one great company that can protect you from it. Even as we keep telling you like lifelock is great for other forms of I._D.. 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He wasn't driving a crazily on thirty five watching traffic zipping over to hit the exit no problem. I didn't see what's that I didn't say oh how did he. He was looking to look into the direction. Go there was video of Guy Person. I should say a person I don't WanNa right on an airplane that was scanning through the screens with his feet with this bear food and I don't know if you're watching him relaxing going through the screen visit you ex ex now. I will say they didn't say in the video if the guy had arbs so I mean I don't know I've just you can't tell isn't that video if you know if he was handicapped so it's tough to it's not it's not hard to be mad at that think to yourself. Do the least put on the the put your on the T._S._A.. Booties on something yes something he's I don't know how easy it is to scan the screens with the T._S._A.. Booties probably get screwed up a little bit so you just need to go barefoot <hes> but he's not handicapped. That's a problem big too. That's a real problem yeah. That's we also also in. I found a video. He's got arms. Okay there. You go then if you'll be doing that. They'll be doing don't be doing that anyway. Stop doing it lazy and I want to say congratulations before we get a little cow story story that you teased. I know you WANNA do your little cow story. I have no idea what the cow story is sure. We want to get to it. I WANNA congratulate a <hes> Jennifer Smith <hes> she is <hes> new world record-holder she broke the previous record held by two hundred eighty eight pound woman said in two thousand seventeen. She is the first three hundred forty six pound heaviest female to ever in a marathon so congratulations to Jennifer. She's out there making things right. Did she go the whole twenty-six did. She did little sticker on her back. We give you that yeah okay just because you're three hundred eighty pounds in ran twenty six miles. Don't try to make their I think did we di- did not see video Jennifer running the whole thing credible really did go to podcast Oughta start sponsoring fat case yeah. We should running running one with everybody who everybody else who signs. Let's be training just run down the hall. I JUST WANNA see run run run from the door not running. Your House is on fire. I don't what care not running. She was was at three eight forty three forty six and ran twenty six point two miles. That's what they claim possible. That's impossible smiling afterward. uh-huh read that a little red that wow all right triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three more pet grand least coming up. The nine hundred thirty three ninety-three also at PAT unleashed on twitter and at Pat unleashed on instantchat as well and the face Haram Chase Graham thing you close all over the place where everywhere everywhere instagram. We're just like chicken man instagram we posted some photos pre Jackie coming home and then post well not she hadn't been home yet but I had cleaning up to do you had you. You got a lot of calculators. I'll say why why was the cleaner that I brought it. Look at look at them. Side by side there I mean trashed up the place then you're not only cleaned it up did some remodel a little remodeling and got to be entryway fix that dorks yeah well we had the kitchen looks a little better yeah yeah bill island in the kitchen while she was away she was really early surprised she got home. Wow we gotTA. We got an island in the kitchen. Put together a little coons gone now and that's yeah that's good. You're sure the records gone. Though are you sure. Did you actually see Steve. I I guess they are they're mean yeah and they shouldn't be if if you see him in the daylight that means they've got rabies probably or something yeah because they're not journal so <hes> something's wrong with them. During the day or triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety-three <hes> G G J Herman tweets time to drug tests narcotic Nancy Yeah because Wow Ryan Patrick tweets that clip of Nancy Pelosi gave me anxiety going to start drinking. Now thanks guys welcome <hes> from an abacus. I've taken too much of the same kind of medicine medications Pelosi. It's called Vodka <hes> boy yeah. I don't know something's wrong seriously is she's either. No Oh hitting the sauce or they're kind of medication. She's on or you know. She's got some kind of dementia problem. I don't know I is the realm of possibility. I don't think so think so. I don't think so either now they have the there's been talk that maybe she has a denture problem as a denture promise not. I don't think so. I'm discounting that one. I don't buy that sorry. Here's something you might be interested in Jeffey. Release people might be interested in in <hes> potentially obtaining your services for this cow cuddling. It's a it's a new wellness trend. Is Anybody called you about this yet. It said we'd like to cuddle yeah. Is there a coupon with out of of confused it. Why uh-huh oh it apparently costs three hundred dollars forty five minutes or something around ninety minutes you get an hour and a half to cuddle with a cow for three hundred diving? I this is actually a good. I mean if cows are pretty expensive but if you get an older kyle for a good price you could make money but you don't keep the cow. You don't get to eat it afterwards. Just snuggle with it. What a weird thing? Why would that be beneficial to anybody to lay on a cow for awhile that is dumb? What a waste of money good grief? I will say for three hundred bucks though or ninety minutes. That's a lot you'll cuddle mu. Apparently you will do it absolutely okay. It's the hottest trend right now. Experts say it is a beneficial wellness method. I thank you doing yoga with a cow is challenging. We've got goat yoga. <hes> do we go kyogo. You're familiar with go yoga no bro not. Are you not healthy. No I don't know why by the cow when you can get the cuddles for three hundred Bucks House are expensive by the cow you get to build for free. Thank you can't have in the body temperature of the cow is higher than ours and they have a lower heart rate so cuddling with them provides relaxing experience. Okay okay sorry I can't smell good. Stop Twenty eight cling wash him down a little bit hosing down. You're fine. They can feel your happiness sadness or anxiety. They respond to you without any judgment. How do you know that I don't know if you don't don't know what the cow is? Judging in the hills is human doing leaning. And what kind of problem does he have that he's coming to a cow for answers my pastor. Who is this dip was? I'm sorry get it off me. Where's my cut by the way I got a lay here all day human on me and my owners getting all the cash for this I mean does seem a bit stupid? It does it does and you're paying three hundred bucks for that stupidity and just to clarify what a world and this isn't a service that you provide for potential clients yeah you working on that as seriously Darah procession of cuddling would like to cuddle with Jeffey just simply call eight hundred nine hundred ninety. Three operators are standing by Jeffey J. F. R. we'll make that happen and Jessie J Afar on twitter a bit there'd be some people that would want cuddle with you and you might WanNa kill him but there'd be some people that would cuddle three hundred bucks and Mike at that ninety minute down a little bit half an hour. Maybe ten to the three hundred bucks for two minutes and then of course speaking of cows we were talking about Beto earlier and Keith brought up the cow poem he wrote. Yes somebody mentioned online yeah account poetry. That's probably got him in trouble member. How creepy that was at age sixteen wow he wrote under the pseudonym psychedelic warlord O'Rourke wrote wrote the song of the cow an interesting piece of experimental writing? I think we're all into experimental Riley Sixteen. Weren't we sure included lines asking for a cow to buff and scrubbed my Elsa giblets <hes> so this is actually grub by Giblets Beta doing that segues into another. Here's an Xtra drugs. Here's an Xtra from the sick guy. I what what a free key is. I need right now. That's a good start right now. Dr. Good Start. You are holy sacred cow. I thirst free you provide milk buff. My giblets love the cow good fortune for those that do love me breathe. My feet cow has risen beautiful what this guy could be president of the United States. I know I'm sorry this disqualifies him immediately. This disqualifies him like you can be Marxist. That's right. We'll tolerate. Bank can't write this kind of crap up. No love the cow wax. My a word scrubbed my giblets. The cow has risen provide mill rounds out the Lao beautiful cow poem is Unbelie then you had the thing where he was fantasizing about running over kids. I don't remember this seriously. Demented is man. I don't remember the kid one yeah. Oh yeah there's another thing where he was writing about some fantasy of running over our children yeah why Badar you sharing this writing. I think somebody dug up that stuff. I don't know I don't know if he was willing to share that. Although he shares a lot they don't want to know about like until the point. His campaign is really over. Yeah it is no there's no momentum there. He doesn't know that yet. I think they they'll know that what the after the next after this right there over the can't get in them anymore unless they've got so many so many percentage points of people knowing who they are. He's next Tuesday and Wednesday round two of the democratic debates and then they'll all go away and obviously not all of them. All these is leading the way yeah. You'RE GONNA start winnowing out. Some of the two zero percent kids who have to because de Blasios doesn't even care about a city city is falling apart. He's out running for president time to go home bill yeah. He's he's awful. New York needs get rid of him to triple eight nine hundred thirty three ninety three. We also have this this politically correct outline for students and faculty guilty at Colorado State University. It's a living resource compiled by. I love this. The inclusive Communications Task Force at C._S.. You Oh that's good. It's intended serve as a best practices guide. It is provided and we'll be updated with the intention of sharing meaningful and useful language suggestions. You can guarantee that the inclusive Communications Task Force at Colorado State University is not the only they want across this country. I'll tell you that I bet you everyone nor should it be thick we need to here's a few general best practices okay to keep in mind. He's like words like you. Don't WanNA use on campus. <hes> okay US warned you do want to use the all like us. People first language I e person with a disability versus disabled person or person of color versus colored who says wait so they do say person of color. They brought that back to bring that back after everybody was told that that was we couldn't you can't say that okay so we stopped saying it then they get back and it's fine unless the person indicates another preference so like if they tell you why I like colored than I guess you can use it or maybe I like Queer and then you can use it never assume a person's gender identity based on their name name or appearance time to sit there and ask every person if you don't know US gender inclusive pronouns or ask for their pronouns wait a minute. If you're asking someone for their Pronoun I would be a little would y que se. Can I ask you for your Pronoun for my Pronoun. I don't own a Pronoun by the sadness the Society Oh my gosh US gender inclusive language when speaking in generalities or about groups of people that you do not know the individual pronouns of say y'all just say Oh you're for instance everyone versus ladies and gentlemen and they them there's versus he him his and she her hearse the. I'm sorry sorry they then. There's doesn't mean the same thing as he him hers. That's a blur role word. Okay so here's a word or phrase to avoid okay we start with addicted or like crack. The word of phrase meaning reason the phrase should be avoided oftentimes used to describe something that the person uses often the like doc get this. I'm addicted to Netflix or these candies are like crack. Don't use that don't don't don't while addicted can be appropriate in some situations it can also cause harm. Oh shut up to those who we're truly experiencing drug addiction or are in recovery or have friends relatives who've experienced addiction so instead. Here's some suggestions suggestions to I'm hooked or I'm devoted fan of or delicious or are excellent. We Hook what if officials nearby might be offended all my see. The didn't think of that. They didn't and I'm hooked could mean the same thing as addicted or like you could be if you if you're upset over addicted and like crack. You're going to be upset over. I'm hooked. You're probably on crack at the time you're offended. I tell you a couple more important words to because we're learning so we're learning American or America. Thank you finally finally somebody says it. The Americas encompass a a lot more than the United States there is South America Central America Mexico Canada and the Caribbean just to name a few of the forty two countries and total. That's why the word Americano or a Condo in Spanish can refer to anything on the American continent yet when we talk about Americans in the United States. We're usually just referring to the people of Ninety yes we are guess what we still will and guess S. what Jeffey that erases other cultures and depicts the United States as the dominant American country yeah like we are thinking like where they're dominant America country that they're all trying to get into thank you because we we are because it is and because everybody knows it. It's man this. It's a suggestion for replacement. Let me tell you about that a U._S.. Citizen Person from the U._S.. Say That that make non-citizens feel bad though ooh. I want to be a citizen but I might it might these people are not thinking not. They're not covering all the basis okay. Don't use the term basket case the term originally referred to a person usually a soldier from World War One who's lost all four limbs. I don't know that ruling shut up. I what I'm saying. Do you see the problem. Is I understand their origin. Okay so maybe that is the origin. I've never heard that before. Who has I've never heard that? The basket basket case was the origin because guys coming out. It's plausible but that's not what we're saying now. I know that will referring to now. That's the same when you go down the list here. I was looking at personal life who knows that they don't know that the cake walk. Nobody knows that if it's true no cakewalk you don't think when you say it's a cakewalk well what you're saying was slaves would covertly mock doc wight slave owners through exaggerated ants to mimic white aristocrat aristocrats. Perhaps unaware of the subversive origin of the dancing slave owners began holding balls for entertainment where we're slaves would perform these dances to win a cake cakewalks became popular through the racism of the nineteenth century minstrel shows and everybody knows that so the offensive term cake Jake want you know the history of history of the phrase. No you're saying when you say that cake walk ignorance. No ignorance of the definition doesn't get you off the hook close. Nobody's ignorant to that. Everybody knows about the slave dance cakewalk this is I mean we've only started. We're only the seeds can't say that this was turning into a basket case but no it's not by the way if you WanNa follow along with these wonderful wonderful definitions from the inclusive language guide of Colorado State University go to twitter at Pat unleashed tweeting that out now in America lots of us have pain every day man I can relate to that and it's frustrating and it's irritating and it's sometimes ability to know cakewalk dealing with pain. I'll tell you that I was trying to help out the wow. Oh No. I was trying to help out the commercial. What did I do? Wow meanwhile we're having just been reminded. I mean just ahead tonight and blurted but it was complete century. There's so much just like a basket case. Oh I think my no no that's bad bold need to do is take relieffactor because obviously you're paying his affecting your Judgment Day. No relieffactor has four key ingredients that helps your body fight inflation agent inflammation not inflation's if fought inflation to that would be a heck of a deal also takes care of inflation. I'm in you should be in anyway because this will help with your pain. I'm pretty sure because about seventy percent of the people start with the three week quickstart for just one thousand nine hundred five they go onto order more because it's working for them now if it doesn't work just discontinue because after three weeks if it doesn't work it's it's not going to if it does work. You'll want to order more. Give it a try you. It's twenty bucks. If you WANNA drugfree natural way to ease your pain and get your life back go to relieffactor DOT COM. It's Pat Gray unleashed on the play until not offend anyone today or for that matter any day we are going over the Colorado state list of inappropriate words in terms because we're working on on people first language here. That's what we're doing. Thank you I so as not to offend anyone important. We've already talked about some of the offensive words why you shouldn't use them. Things like <hes> American or America's basket case. You don't ever want to call anybody a basket case that was originally intended for World War One veterans. It came back with no limbs at all for those. Who didn't I mean that's every below everybody? We all know that we knew this. Don't plead ignorance on this. You can't use the word depressed you don't call anybody ready to press felt originally referring to mental illness the terms depressed crazy nuts those those refer to people who were often institutionalized against their will using these terms to describe something that is surprising unexpected implies negative things about about the people you're applying to instead here instead of saying crazy. That's crazy. That's nuts you should say. I'm a little depressed or you got O._C._D.. Tom Instead call it. Surprising or Wild Sad overly organized showings organized in the world. I've a little particular today. What little particular this goes without saying? You can't tell people dwarfs or midgets. Don't call anybody dwarf. Don't call anyone a midget but what are they then. They're they're a person of short stature or a little person so dwarf. That's what you're saying. Dwarfism is a medical or genetic condition that results in stature below forefoot cut off okay according to little people of America. The average height of a door is four feet. Are you laughing not not not that organization when used in a non medical since it can be considered offensive but many view it as the acceptable term for the condition. The term midget was used in the past to describe unusually short and Porsche Person. That's why that's that's what they are. Instant now widely considered derogatory so not in my house isn't no and by the way here's a here's a little little helpful hint here for Colorado state and others such groups. If you're trying to replace a word phrase make sure that what you're replacing it with shorter and then maybe people like me might catch on but if you're GonNa Make Me Change Dwarf to person short stature hey look here's a person of short stature. Although I don't know why you'd point that out because that is but I mean if you're if you're out somewhere your kid says look daddy dwarf or a digit. You have to say no. No so you don't WanNa yet you have to that any person of here of midget bowling you have to call that person of short stature bowling right little wordy just even just just D- Dwarf tossing right. It's surest tossing so now we know amy meany mighty Mo the original song replaces Tiger with an offensive word aimed at African Americans. Don't use that gosh so instead of any meaning mighty Mo do randomly selected many many Mo- catcher randomly selected person by the no meaning my need randomly selected you just that doesn't have I didn't realize epileptic that said that's a term of condition right now but it generalizes the population in Minimizes Person Hood which should be acknowledged. I often called people first language instead of saying epileptic say a person with epilepsy or a person with seizure disorder. No I'm sorry though no I have some of that in my family. I'm not replacing it. Sorry no a freshman. You can't say freshman using man terms that excludes women and Non Binary Gender identities inclusive language acknowledges that people with many different entities could fill the role and Cancun true so instead of freshman you first year okay okay first year. We're not nearly through here. We skipped. We're skipping law. Oh my goodness. I'm just doing the highlights. Now here's one I didn't realize you can't use the word Hispanic anymore. You can't use the word Hispanic widely used to describe individuals from Spanish speaking countries it is problematic because of its origins in colonization and the implication that to be Hispanic or Latin X.. Latine Latino one needs to be Spanish speaking it is also problematic when people are called Hispanic based on their name or appearance without first checking to see how they the identify so so important so when you see somebody you need to check I excuse me how do you identify yeah. I need your gender identify Hispanic background <hes> so I guess you can use a latte necks Latine Latino using a person's country of origin such as cuban-american. Oh okay well now if you call somebody African American and they're not from Africa. What does that do into people thank you? Why don't we identify as yeah? You don't know that at all okay there's still some more safety tips. That'll keep you from offending people. We'll share them with you. Coming up on Pat Gray unleashed in this bad gray unleashed. Important that we don't offend people so we're going over Colorado state's guide to the words that you must not us and they also have some nice suggestions for us all. I'm going to be inclusive Penn.. I'm SURPRI- I didn't I had no idea Hispanic was now forbidden yeah. It's bad plenty of words that are on this list literal that you didn't know about this about this one. This is what I love. Hold down the fort or defend the fort in the U._S.. U. S. The historical connotation I guarding against native American intruders and feeds into the stereotype of savages when you say that unfortunately Colorado State University is actually located located in Fort Collins Colorado. I feel bad because I tell you that call it. I live on worth Texas. Oh Wow so technically you do <hes> adding to it. Allows sure are instead. It should be cover the office worth Texas or left in charge of I was to be instead of hold down the fort. Cover the office or your left in. Ask Yourself at what point in your life when some when you said Yeah when I was GonNa stay here and hold down the for it where you honestly thinking. Did you mean you're going to shoot Indians if they call you calling me a savage. Why are you talking about up so insane get this? You're not supposed to use the word homosexual anymore because of the clinical history of the word homosexual. It's used in an offensive way to suggest that gay people are somehow not normal or psychologically emotionally disordered notions discredited by the American Psychological Association so instead use Gay Lesbian Bisexual Pan Sexual Queer. It's important to ask what term person preferred. I right you got together. Ask Yeah you gotta ask because you look like a queer but I don't know what you're what you're thinking about today. So what do you want me to call you supposed to do it or asking I don't know why would you even jump into somebody's sexuality when you're talking to better. I don't know it's it's insane. Obviously you're not supposed to use the term illegal immigrant or alien. Oh the term illegal immigrant was I used in nineteen thirty thirty nine is a slur towards Jews who were fleeing the Nazis and entered Palestine without authorization saying the that a person is illegal dehumanizes them and implies that they're a criminal not taking into account note that they may be a refugee seeking asylum the term also suggests that the individual and not the potential actions. They've taken are unlawful so instead born in whatever country immigrant immigrant undocumented immigrant refugee if a person has been forced to leave their country to escape war persecution natural disaster or just because they don't like their neighborhood less part might have been added really okay yeah Syrah Colorado State with not no they would not male and female so pass it right refers to biological sex and not gender in terms of communication methods. You know we very very rarely need to identify or Noah persons biological sex the way we have to why are we doing the queer and the end of the same thing more often we're referring to gender in these cases using gender identity terms as preferred uh-huh so male female man woman gender non Binary Gender non-conforming so you can't say man woman. I guess they want if if it's okay with them I would check with them. I find out what or subject within the context of reading through this list but Martin did we dump when Patches said male female I mean that's sued that's offensive very so as normal person that implies that other people often people of color people blood disabilities mental illnesses disease or not whole or regular people. All humans deserve the respect of being normal spot. There's no replacement for normal person. Has It's never appropriate to use this phrase to describe a person other. Just eliminate that from your vocabulary period I don't WanNa WanNa hear you use the word normal again. Okay okay okay wow paraplegic and quadriplegic these terms generalize the population minimize Person Hood. I was just thinking the same thing they minimize person yeah yeah. They have the Paralympics they adopt that there Oh my good let me tell you something. That's not people first language Otas Day that is not people first language and I I disagree with it. We should just let them all part of the normal Olympics. What you can say is person with the spinal cord injury person with Paraplegia or person who is parallel shut up? My sweet learn pinkus peanut gallery of course is terrible because this phrase intends to reference hecklers or critics usually ill-informed ones in reality the peanut gallery names a section in theaters usually the cheapest and worst where many black people sat during the era of Vaudeville. I had no idea nobody knows that. No one knows that it's Chad pre section on his show. That's where I get to sit. What about the cheap suits forget? You're going to be on their Thursday night by the way Chad pre show okay my goodness. I can't miss a good now. Look you can't say you can't say preferred pronouns. Let's what we just learned this. You're supposed to ask people for their preferred Pronoun. Oh now but now you can't even use the word preferred because using the word preferred in front of Pronoun suggests that gender identity especially outside the binary is a choice and that the pronouns don't really belong along to the person Aachen golly okay. Haven't we been taught that they can choose their identity. Whatever isn't that the whole thing? We need to look at the how you identify on any given day. What is your Pronoun what pronouns to use the pronouns to us? Tell me about your adjectives as well. What what kind of adjectives do you enjoy asking them? What thanks for not anymore? Hey if you need to use a conjunction. What conjunction do you normally turn to? That's amazing win writing mining. How do you use a semi colon as a as compared to a colon me? I shouldn't use the word might remind you of some problems that you have it. I shouldn't I'm sorry I apologize. Why would have to have health problems always insensitive? Well 'cause there might be something wrong with your colon and I just reminded you of that. I don't know get good good then you wouldn't be offended by preferred Cola then there's rule rule of thumb that's been said to have been derived. It's been said to have been derived. We don't even know from the belief that English law allow demand beat his wife with his sticks along as it was no thicker than his thumb so instead of using rule calm because everybody knows that history as well I standard or general rule okay the general rule that I could be my wife with a stick no thicker but wait a minute wait a minute. That's that's standard in general are just other words from normal. Oh yeah you know normal. I hope we dumped the word normal. Did you go get I got it. You can't say I'm starving. You can't say I'm broke when when used in place of simply saying I'm hungry or I'm Lloyd cash right now. These terms appropriate real situations of hardship and can cause harm to individuals who are experiencing extreme poverty or a hunger crisis I can't I can what a world I mean. We've always told about the stabbing though when we were kids right growing up with people in China yeah <hes> so instead you say I'm hungry or a low on cash straight get used that because when used to describe heterosexuals terms straight implies that anyone in the L._G._B._T._q.. A two plus community is crooked or normal instead of straight use the word Hetero say okay okay good great the itis our Food Co.. Coma more commonly known now as a Food Goma. This phrase directly alludes to stereotype of laziness easiness of course associated with African Americans know does your old where does that okay. The people who believe that are racist wrote this up I have never associated food coma with any kind of breath. There's a number of these here. There's a number of the where they won right under. Look at this thug thug refers to a violent person or criminal but it often takes on a racist connotations immediate well if if it takes on a racist racist that's your problem. That's your racism because thug does not mean anything about a person of color. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean it could be any neither does food coma and no that's unbelievable. It's drinking early time today. You know you're not supposed to use the word transgendered now. The word transgendered never needs the extraneous Ed transgender. It's just just transgender. Let's get really really nit-picky. I'm withdrawing my kids from Colorado State University if they're enroll today oh my gosh that's for sure this is horrific. That's for sure you know you wouldn't think Fort Collins Collins. Colorado is a place where you're going to have to put up with this kind of stuff. This is ridiculous. You get used the word war go to war at war war zone or battle when I used to describe actual war these terms are appropriate otherwise when used to describe difficult situations or meetings. I have to go to war today at this meeting. They evoke very real tragedy that can be problematic for survivors of war or veterans instead you can use hostile environment toxic environment difficult confrontation dispute. Okay all right I that is the most Free Dick Yetlis list I've ever seen it's pretty amazing. It's getting worse and worse every single day with this political correct nonsense you know in and they're getting caught up in the creators of all this BS are getting caught up and I mean I guess I'm okay with that. Yeah that's that's-that's fun when they start falling victim to their own set of nonsensical rules then it's fun just like we we had a story yesterday about the metoo movement coming back to bite all these liberals and now they're starting to get pissed off about the metoo movement well. They're metoo. Movement has gone too far. We we thought really going to get conservatives with it but mostly liberals are are getting taken down. We don't like that yeah good good. You planted the seeds that made this field that we get to play on Yup and sucks for you. Yep All right. Let me tell you about red zone. Are you zone and DOT com. If you want to lose weight and you've been struggling with it because you just can't seem to you know stop eating at the right time. This is what can help you with that because red zone contains only a molecule naturally president your body but this gives you more of it to send a signal to your brain that you're full and you can put the fork down now. Then it also kicks your body into Garrod boost your metabolism so that you burn fat Ridge Zone is not a stimulant either doesn't contain caffeine it contains O._A.. V._A.. And that's pretty much it go to reduce own dot com order yours today there so confident that this will help you lose weight. They're offering a thirty day money back guarantee and you'll save thirty percent sent on a three-month supply at Red Zone DOT com. That's red zone DOT com. This is interesting gives us a little chance to peak in on Alex Jones. It also gives us a chance to <hes> see Alex. Jones is still around. Yes he has despite the fact that he's been banned from virtually everything which is related ridiculous. It's insane but here Alex Jones seems like the maybe a kit use the word normal okay wait. What was the word I <hes> substitute for? I mean look here all right. I don't recognize any substitute because you can't you can't say normal so no we heard seems like he's the standard cases Dander is there's no replacement for normal as it's never appropriate we use that phrase to describe a person so it seems like well yeah yeah so he's talking to a transgendered. I I mean transgender thank you. The Guy May man man. A million self-described quasi judicial body created by the B._C.. Human Rights Code held hearings on whether or not female beauticians should be forced to handle male genitalia why well <hes> because this transgender person has filed sixteen different complaints against s Titians in the past year arguing that as a transgender woman <hes> <hes> being denied services on account of our gender identity was discriminatory because she he she this person they <hes> they went to the business and they asked for their <hes> giblets to be taxed. Okay usually women don't have triplets and so they can't be waxed so it's not nor usual. That's not that's not it's not regular regular. It's it's just not a word for what it oftentimes. These types of businesses don't have that service okay so let's waxing of hurt. This person's name is Yaniv right sure so you need was on with Alex Jones and here's what happened like twelve year old girl should be ready to have a transgender man as a woman in the shower and if they see his genitals they shouldn't get upset. I don't think that's reasonable. I do actually because you know in their people WANNA start segregating segregating sex and from the women's WanNa be around a bunch of a about a much stronger bunch of all right so there you go. That's what we're up against right Dallas looking good though yeah yeah are you saying you need wasn't looking good. I thought you need looked wonderful. I've not even close to judging that now. I know that you need still has gymnasts. Implicit right defies our our old style of thinking would lead you to believe that in Eve then is a man and shouldn't be asking women to wax his giblets but nieve off disagrees with that so what you need performing supposed to do if you want you dip with wax wax yourself you would call Bell Rourke who apparently writes poetry about it as we learned earlier or there's that yeah wow what a weird world I mean seriously it's time to just be it. If it starts raining this afternoon just might be brimstone. It just might be raining brimstone well on a day where Alex Jones is the same one yeah look for scattered showers and Brimstone today because that's come on. What do you do with that seriously? What do you do with that and we're supposed to be okay with it and we are supposed to be okay with you are supposed to be okay within we're supposed to they just okay <hes> North Carolina right the judge said hey the state's got a if you no matter what what you identify as you can use bathroom? You want doesn't matter right. I'm sorry no okay no. I'M NOT GONNA go there with you. Not GonNa go off that cliff. The whole society could go off the cliff if I'm not going off that clip that just nonce unless you have to really bad at the only bathroom routers is a woman so of well we how long does that last. The woman is going to be the restroom right. Yeah Yep got these tweets in one from land of the fleet they then they're high. Can have your preferred pronoun me just used it all up. I don't have any more not going to the Pronoun Store to later this week. deying Dr Dang it self-righteous judgmental mental bovine tweets looks like Al Gore finally has competition yeah that Oh oh Oh Gore's way beyond that man. That's Gore's artwork bear Tobago again again on a day where Al Gore's poetry seems a nor Ooh what what my wow well compared to beddoes you. Tell me a floating con disappears and midnight Sun Right vapors rise. It was settles on Acid C._N._N.. Neptune's bones snow glides from them ice father's floods for cities hard rain cost quickly then dirt is parched are kindling ruling is placed into the lightning celebration unknown creatures take their leave on Moron horsemen ready. They're stirrups. Passion Seeks Heroes and friends. The bell of the city on the hill is wrong. Shepherd cries is the hour of choosing has arrived here are your tools and the tool well and so glad you read that I was really. I'm very heavy for asking me. I'm happy to hear it see. We don't have NATO what do we. We don't have audio telling you he wants to know. I wish oh wouldn't that be Lissi. Tremendous that might put him in the running to to go ahead of Al Gore but yeah until then but he's going to have a lot of free time real soon and so maybe he might be up to read the For us for the campaign the campaign or he's going to be depressed new. We say depressed no. He's we can't they can't that's easy sad. Maybe sad it's going to be sad. He's going to be feeling low depressed minimizes their person okay and I won't have it not gonNA show. I won't have it listen. This whole segment is just GonNa be silence. You guys are just ruined it on right so let's turn to cory booker because we'll get some wisdom from him over the weekend. Cory Booker said he'll defend anyone who's attacked because of his religion here. Here's what he said Kareem it. I will defend anybody Republican or Democrat who's attack because of their color their skin because of their religion because of their ethnicity. That's who I am. I don't get down about the politics of it. Racism Racism hardiness about it yeah. That's Oh you know that's true. Almost believe it no yeah I mean. He says it like really means. If he does right well here. He is grilling judicial nominee neely rail on her religious beliefs on gay marriage or gay relationships in your opinion immoral senator. I'm not sure you know the relevance of that too. I mean I think that relevant your opinion. If you think African American relationships immoral do you think gay relationships are moral. You personally believe that gay reaction I do you do not believe that you do believe there are sin senator. My personal views on any of these subjects are things I would put to one side and I would faithfully flights. You're not willing to say here fight that what you're whether you believe it is sinful for a man to be married. You're not you're not willing to comment on ash defending someone look at that she's Jewish by the way and he's defending her really strongly. They're right right right right okay and he'll anybody's defense over religion or what he actually say. I gotta go back lots that whole thing that she actually say about the African American trying to slip that in they're trying to acquainted to that's exact- that's all he did there right yeah he is. Oh my gosh yes. Then Booker Grilled Mike Pompeo on his views on people of other religions. Mike Pompeo's Presbyterian in a speech you talked about folks who worshiped other gods and called it. Martin multiculturalism warned that we live in a country where that happens. Do you have any views that the Muslim faith or people believe in worshiping quote unquote other Gods is that just something negative in our country defending does religious and right on to help uh-huh Mike Pompeo he doesn't care one. Are You Republican Democrat white black. I don't care all defend you that of course he talks about wanting to punch donald trump you talk about civic civic grace and you talk about parades empty. Can you speak a little bit to what you mean by these ideas and also the difficulty in expressing those in practicing those at a time where the opponent will likely not look doc. I was running on a Iowa stage and we were so psych hundreds of people. They're about to jump up and this guy sees me the former tied at Stanford University. He's a big guy. He puts his arm around me and he goes dude. I want you to Punch Donald Trump in the face and I stopped at my tracks and go do that's a felony man. Donald Trump is a guy in you understand hurts. You in my testosterone sometimes makes me one of feel like punching him. I mean that's felony yeah. You just said it and then he said he does blaming it on the testosterone though that's not him testosterone talking okay this guy has got to go away to. I'm telling you to see any of these. Democrats win were done. We're done go kidding there too. Radical there too extreme or the leader they are completely out of Control Sir. Let it happen all right Tripoli nine hundred thirty three ninety three's number tomorrow. We'll talk to you then inclusive inclusiveness you yes pat gray. Don't minimize Person Hood.

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Full Kamala Harris Interview: On the bus in Sioux City, Iowa

NBC Meet the Press

26:58 min | 1 year ago

Full Kamala Harris Interview: On the bus in Sioux City, Iowa

"Hello from washington chuck todd here meet. The press went to sioux city iowa this week for an exclusive interview with california senator kamala harris. I had a long conversation with her on her campaign. Buses awesome kicked off a five-day tour of isla. Obviously we couldn't fit the entire conversation on our television broadcasts but we wanna make sure you had a chance to hear the full on edited edited interview including a couple of extra moments outside of her bus so that's what you're about to hear. I hope you enjoy and of course check your feet for the full episode. Meet the press putting putting my exclusive interview with acting secretary of homeland security heaven nakhalin senator harris. Thanks for inviting us on your bus key. Welcome welcome to welcome to the the for the people but for the people but <hes> over the last few days. There's been an escalation in how to describe the president among many if you were opponents label him whether label racist white nationalist white supremacist does that matter labeling matter. I think it overlooks <hes> the fact of the truth about the history of our country where we are. Which is you know we. We have to speak truth. Racism is real all in this country it was before he was elected. It will be after anti-semitism homophobia transphobia islamaphobia. These issues are real in our country and we have to to speak truth about it and certainly we must point out and and never condone anyone who uses their power in a way that fans it but the reality is that these are forms of hate that are not new to our country which have in the history of our country taken lethal proportion and still today take on lethal proportion and so i believe that the conversation has to be about how we are going to speak truth about the history and then address it and you know when and i look at what's happening now chuck just most recently the announcement of the rates for months ago much less what happened in el paso to the most recent raise were hundreds of people were were picked up many were released because they probably shouldn't have been picked up in the first place. People are afraid in our country. You think hispanics feel targeted targeted right now i do know paso and this ice raid that took place in mississippi and and this president's rhetoric which has been can you say eight. Can you say anything at this point to reach panic americans. I don't think it would be authentic if he did and i think people are smart enough to know that you know there's an old saying judge me by my actions. It's not my words and his actions have been to divide to to to vilify to to do what is contrary who we are as americans which is to say it's us versus them as opposed to a president who uses the power of that microphone in a way that is about unifying a unifying in lifting up as opposed to beating down. That's what this president does. He beats people down and i will tell you this a sign of a coward what do you how do you strike that balance of hitting him but still trying to win over some of his supporters ultimately. I know in gen an election. You do want to win over some of his supporters. Why do you think they picked every american. They picked him the first used. You used the phrase before the sixteen campaign but it was in october. You're saying you know this. We're gonna look at ourselves in the mirror well. They questioned what happened. I said then and i say today but what this there's an inflection moment in the history of our country. This is a moment in time where each of us must look in the mirror and collectively. We must look in the mirror and ask this question. Who are we and i think i think part of the answer to that question is we are better than this. What did we say in sixteen were but here's the thing there are people who voted for him for a variety of reasons and in a lot of it has to do with the promises he made which he has not delivered on because they were false promises and he betrayed a lot of people he came in saying he was going to help working families. Everyone from farmers armed to autoworkers. We're here in iowa their farmers a lot of farmers were looking at bankruptcy because of his so-called trade policy that was trade policy by i tweet motivated by a fragile ego that was unilateral action that has resulted in farmers in iowa looking at bankruptcy because they've got soybeans rotting in <unk> bins why because they cultivated a market over at least the last ten years in china and that's been cut off for them auto workers hundreds of thousands were told we are looking at the potential of no job by the end of the year he betrayed people in the american people are smarter then to go for all of the flash that he tweets tweets all the time and and look at the fact that not only on trade policy but this tax bill that benefits the top one percent and the biggest corporations of america that this sky but he betrayed them and i know that the american people are smarter than to go for the oak you brought up the rates in and south mississippi believe it or not law enforcement told are told our news told us that they had to be intentionally vague about the companies that were quote rated did explain to me your your your prosecutor. Why why why was the workers targeted and not the company's why why did the five companies get to stay. I is there. Why are there. Why do they have a privacy protection here. Is there something in the law that i'm missing. No and i don't know so why they did what they did. I don't know why they decided to do it right. After paso and small community committed the wrong companies correct if they hired people that weren't citizens. They're the ones in the wrong right. I mean yes of course of course the employers have to be responsible and they have to do whatever is required by law aw <hes> but but there's another point here chuck which is that this administration has directed d._h._s. To to conduct these rates as part part of what i believe is this administration's campaign of terror which is to make holes that whole populations of people afraid to go to work. Children are afraid to go to school for fear that when they come home their parents won't be their parents are afraid to send their children to the pediatrician for fear that that will be contact with others others there. Are we have the census coming up. Okay the twenty twenty cents. This is coming up. We do the census every ten years in america and which is that we count who's here here so and we make decisions about everything from electoral lines to where we're going to put resources so we have a lot of blended families in america which is household of multigenerational multigenerational households including people are documented and undocumented census taker comes knocking at that door. They're not going to answer the door and i know this administration. Administration knows that that's what this is really about it. I think that's part of it as a consequence without any question so we should understand and the american people should understand this is bigger and broader than just these families that are being targeted and attacked whether it be by child separation policy that is immoral whether it'd be about putting babies in cages and for profit prisons and detention centres which should be shut down or whether it be about the census which we will all live with for at least the next decade and the next generation and and i have to finish this plane we conduct a census as part of an extension of who we are ars it democracy we say every person matters we count we we we make decisions based on who's here and what they need and you and i will both suffer if that census count is flawed and i'm telling you the given the policies of this administration that is going to be a flawed census. You have spoken about racism national security. Issue your took you. You've spent time in the intel committee. You've been involved in the russia investigation and you. You've said that russia targeting us on race proves that are racial strife national security issue. How do you get the public to see it that way. Okay so russia interfered in the election of president united states regardless of what donald trump says listen to the intelligence community they tell you that that is true because it is is true okay so that's the fact label russia's state sponsor of terrorism. I think that is a debatable point but say they're an average. There's no question and they've committed human rights abuse. There's no question they are an adversary. There's no question that they have attacked america's democracy. I mean ukraine crimea. We look across the word of course but here's the thing we also have to on this election. Issue understand that this long standing adversary decided that they wanted to attack back as they wanted to attack us where we are strong and one of them almost intangible strengths of america is that we can hold ourselves out out as they democracy imperfect knowing may be flawed though we may be and it's an intangible strength it gives us the authority to walk in rooms and actually talk about human rights talk about civil rights talk about concepts of freedom right so they decide. Let's get them. Let's attack that so they decide decide to attack. What is the strongest pillar of democracy which is free and open elections so let's get americans going at each other. What's going to get heat. What's coming the way to do it and they tried out a bunch of different things and you know what caught heat the issue of race so russia exposed america's achilles heel and all of a sudden and guess what for those who want to marginalize the the conversation about race and racial equity and say oh well that's identity politics or that's this or that set guess what now it is also a national security issue and we need to deal with it and we need to deal with it being on the committee. What is the hot spot that you have learned about now that we're not paying enough attention to what's what what is something. You're picking up intel committee. You realize boy. If i'm president that's going to be everything that you know about. It's everything from cybersecurity which includes listen the <hes> previously jay johnson. The previous head of the department of homeland security designated out elections infrastructure is critical infrastructure of the united states as critical as our electrical chuckle grids is critical as our financial right and it has been attacked so that's one of the greatest threats to us <hes> but cybersecurity broadly speaking speaking. I've been working on this since i was attorney. General california where i led the second largest department of justice in the united states we have got to do a better job of securing our infrastructure as as it relates to our power grids as it relates to our what is going on in terms of medical systems what is going on in terms of our financial systems. We're very vulnerable to cyber threats. Let's should we be on the offense ever meaning. We're vulnerable to some threats but we open this pandora's box. We use cyber. Perhaps i know you can't confirmed. Nobody can confirm to mess with around nuclear capabilities. We've been on the offense on cyber. Did we open up pandora's box. You're going to keep us on offense on cyber. I'm i i do believe we need a cyber doctrine. I do believe that we need to have an understanding and agreement about what kinds of actions that are target that at target our country will require a response of of what order i do believe that the russian response whatever response we've done is not been a deterrent to them yet. What do you think would. I think that we have to <hes> bring the intelligence community together with the united states congress with the white house and first of all do with this white house has failed to do which is acknowledged the seriousness of the issue and then make awesome decisions about what our response will be. It's possible that sanctions alone haven't done it. Listen we have a whole for lack of a better term. Arsenal right and sanctions is one of them right in terms of wh- carrots and sticks that we have and and we should and we should have a very focused conversation about what will be most effective in which scenario and that's why. I say we should have a cyber doctor. Let's talk talk about healthcare. There is some confusion about where you are in healthcare. Whether it's a lot of it has to do with the sloganeering right you have medicare for all over here. You have enhanced mccain over there but let me ask you this. You wanna doing new system it over ten year period. There's a lot of people who said we're in the middle of still in trying to build the last system. The last system hasn't been fully implemented. Medicaid is not fifty states. Why do a new system before you find out if this one does this one won't work so let me start by saying. I was very proud as attorney general california to be among the leaders who defended the affordable care act what president obama accomplished pushed was historic many presidents before him attempted to reform america's healthcare system and failed. He accomplished it with the affordable care act. He has also. Oh said he is used a term starter house that it was a good beginning okay. We need to build on it. Why because currently there are thirty million americans concerned with healthcare building on buying a new house and i say this if we're going to use the house analogy i guess the question is is your plan as your family grows you probably the bigger uh-huh and that's the question and but you see that you're doing a transit. It's been hard enough to implement obamacare. People in the house are out on the porch arch and in the rain and in the snow we bring them in we could beat this metaphor too though there's no doubt one could argue that the problem with healthcare system and it's only been in addition on a single oh house that we haven't tried to build a new infrastructure that says we live in earthquake territory going off the rails here. Senator cottage decades someplace so okay so here's the point here's the point thirty million americans without healthcare right now we got to get them covered and standing branding medicaid would take care of half of them wouldn't it but medicare for all means that everyone is covered half of thirty million fifteen million. That's still fifteen million too many people all without coverage. But how do we know this. Won't i guess my question is. There's been a theory that if you expanded medicaid that eventually we'll get everybody eventually. The system is going to get everybody covered. Why not see if that's going to work. I before scrapping the system again and heavy is about expanding medicare which works expanding ending also the coverage that include dental includes vision includes hearing aids which is with the hearing aids are so expensive for seniors. It is about expanding the my my plan is also about saying hey for people who want a private plan as opposed to the public plant public plan. You get that option as i'm traveling our country. What does that mean if they liked their plan and right now but we go to this issue of the debate in your plan employers are no longer going to be the place you get insurance correct right and you and you but here's why why why should you have to stay a job. You don't like because your employer is sponsoring healthcare. The obamacare exchange ideas you chuck there was a time where people come out of high school or college. They go and work at one place until they retired that is no longer the case in america with with certain certain people in their twenties and thirties. They're moving jobs. Every two years and people should not have to feel that they can't leave a job because they'll lose their health. Care are under my plan. Private insurers can submit. They have to be certified by my plan. They have to get we're not gonna take anymore co pays and deductibles but if they conform play bar rules than a private plan will be available to you where every work so you don't have to feel wed to that job or to to keep your the health insurance which is the case for so many americans. The other piece of this is it is about getting rid of private insurance. The way that private insurance currently works wchs which is those co pays deductibles. It is about requiring the private insurance to play by our rules because they have been jacking up the cost all private insurance becomes medicare advantage essentially essentially in years using language people familiar today that it would be a form of medicare advantage over and above basic medicare it would be a private medicare plan but you would not if you like your employer based plan right now that plan you might find a similar one but you're not going to keep that one but if that if if your employer's not providing health care for you it's aetna so of aetna wants to compete and come up with the best plan they'll get certified and you can go to aetna if that's if the best one right so it but it is it it is addressing something part of part of what i believe is the problem with where we are now as a country is we have not by policy truly adapted to the way people really live and we have to do that so one. My healthcare policy is about saying everyone should be covered and frankly any democrat who's running in twenty nineteen. Who doesn't i have a policy to cover. Everyone has got to go back to the kitchen and figure out what they're really doing right but the other piece of it is that we have to adapt to the american workforce right now. People are not coming out of high school and working in the same place forever right now over the next fifteen years is expected that as many as forty forty percent of the jobs that currently exist will no longer exists as people are making those transitions. I don't want that. They're gonna lose their healthcare because it is. It is stuck to their implorer so i'm i'm. I'm detaching it from the employer. Speaking of adapting republic may still control the senate. If you're president united states how you get that healthcare plan through i mean do you have to say okay. We'll keep obama. Karen expand that. I mean is that do you do you retain that flexibility in your mind. Here's here's the thing chuck i arrived in the united states senate in <hes> in january twenty th seventeen and there was a full on attack that had been building for years to get rid of the affordable care act and there was an attempt sometimes successful to make it a partisan issue democrats. Let's want the affordable care. Act republicans wanna get rid of it and then the republicans named it obamacare thinking that would create some controversy and then at when when i joined the united states senate and i watch these debates and i fought against any any attempt to get rid of it why because preexisting conditions should not be the barrier to getting access to healthcare because our kids should be able to be on our plan until they turned twenty seven right but here's what i witnessed to your point i witnessed town halls malls around the country in so called red states and so called red districts were people showed up at those town halls and said to their elected representatives. Do not take away my healthcare and i will never forget. I was on the senate floor at that early morning our when the late great john mccain a republican said no you don't don't this cannot be a partisan issue. The health and wellbeing of the american people should not be a partisan issue because those folks by the way when when when we're when anyone is sitting in the emergency room with their child could care less about the party with which are registered to vote. I totally get that. I'm just talking about the reality of what you can get through. What what i really think you can get a new healthcare plan through. You just described how difficult it was to keep obamacare. I'm just being one of the big raise you've been. You've you've been wanting to be a realistic you've a._m. And too many places in addition to the moral aspect of this which i do strongly believe have healthcare should be a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it okay. There is also the issue of cost it is right now causing three trillion dollars colors and in in over the next ten years. It's going to cost six trillion dollars. We cannot afford to do nothing we literally cannot afford to do nothing on top of this tax break that gave the top one percent and the biggest corporations where there's going to be a one point five trillion dollar addition to our deficit. We cannot afford to do nothing nothing so on this issue not only is it morally right not only are there thirty million people who don't have coverage it is also extremely expensive because you you know what let me just tell you something. We've currently got medicare for all you know where that's taking place in the emergency room and it's really expensive so even if you don't care about the moral issue even if you don't care about a parent who's sitting at the emergency room afraid that if they get treatment they're gonna have to pay five thousand dollars deductible tom. If you care about your pocketbook and your wallet this is an issue that you're going to care about senator harrison getting the rap sign so now you gotta you gotta love. I'm really excited. Thank you. Thank you doc. I know you've miscued labels progressive moderate centrist all this business however it does feel like we're living in a time of pick aside. They were not allowed to have new ones anymore. Everything's black and white every there's no more gray area. How do you pitch to people that gray. Area is is okay too. Who seems like that. If i were to say you have one challenged. It's pitching this idea that hey having a bridge. Between two wings of the party isn't a bad thing. I do you make that pitch. I think you make the the pitch based on <hes>. You know i do it based on what i call by. You know my agenda. Which is the three a._m. Agenda which is about really dealing with the things that wake people up in the middle of the night and <hes> you know. I intend to be a problem solving president. I think that's what people want. They want that. We are focused focused on the things that wake them up in the middle of the night the things that are weighing on them that they're trying to figure out because there are a lot of issues that we need to address through that lens and you know l. My my whole desire goal in life has been trying to. I want to be relevant in the lives of people right and there are a lot of problems that we need to fix san san francisco democrat and that's what they're going to call you out here in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania because republicans have been using that label a long time <hes>. Do you feel like kept overcome that label. What does that mean to you when you hear it. Hey i don't buy labels i if i bought labels i would never run for office in the first place <hes> <hes> i think that also most voters are <hes> are thoughtful enough to know that things aren't that simplistic <hes> and what they really want to know is what what motivates you about. The socialist brand sitting out there in some parts of the of the coalition. I don't think people have time for that. I honestly don't think it's something that is it's just it you know this this ideological approach to all his people don't want they want to know what you can actually do like literally. What are you going to do for me. When i wake up at three o'clock in the morning running and i'm worried about how many get through the end of the month which is why i have a proposal which the economist economist said we'll be the most significant tax cut for middle class families and generations which is focused on giving families families that make under one hundred thousand dollars tax credit of up to six thousand dollars. They can collect that five hundred dollars a month. What am i focused on teacher. Pay why because i am meeting more teachers interest working two and three jobs ninety four percent of our teachers come out of their own pocket to pay for school supplies. Let's get some basic stuff done by the way you have said you want to pay for all your stuff you pay for it by repealing that tax the tax i get that i i remember a lot of promises in two thousand eight feel. The bush tax cuts. Tax cuts didn't get fully repeal. Would you rather expand the deficit to enact your program or just find a way to pay for it before your neck. Let me tell you what i want to. I will not expand the deficit by giving giving a tax break to the top one percent of corporations in america. Would you be doing this current. President has done and i find it really deficit spend if you thought it was four. There are ways that we can be. We have to be smart. See here's the thing i i reject a conversation that is focused purely on what is it going to cost without asking what will be the benefit you know i love my friends in the private sector there cold-blooded when asked about their effectiveness. They are not burdened by ideology. They ask one question. Mr captured in three letters. What is the r._o._i. What is the return on the investment. You invest in education system of america. We will all benefit in a very very big way you you invest in working families in america and lift them up help them get through the end of the month with all those bills paid so that they don't have to go to the payday heyday lender and and and borrow money at an interest rate often of three hundred percent and go bankrupt. We will all benefit so i look at it in terms of the investment smith and i am prepared to make in the american people in american families because i'm going to bet on them every day and it will always be a good investment. You're going to go back to the senate and september looks like an actually have a gun gun proposal yeah. We should go back before mcconnell saying they'll vote. You're going to vote on something you take the red flag law. That's all you can get or do you have do you don't if you can't get you one of those well on this issue. I'm gonna tell you i am prepared when elected to actually take executive action. If congress doesn't yes yes you can yes you can and so i will one put in place is a comprehensive background check. I will also make sure that we have executive. Yes yes i do. I also will put in place a requirement and fund the a._t._f. To put greater enforcement into taking the licenses of gun dealers who violate the law. Do you know ninety percent of the guns that are connected with crime are sold by just five percent of the gun dealers they need. We need to take their licenses and then third unprepared by executive action to ban the importation of assault weapons into our country you with double ramps okay all right. Hey it's chris as from m._s._n._b._c. Sing you know every day i come to the office and we make television show and every day i think to myself there's so much more. 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EP 21 Leaders In The Living Room with Adam Weber

The Uncommon Christian Podcast

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EP 21 Leaders In The Living Room with Adam Weber

"Hey everyone thank you so much for tuning in today for episode twenty one. We're in a conversation series called leaders in the living room. This series is all about helping followers of jesus to glean wisdom from christian leaders from around the country on how to lead in their homes and workplaces during the season like the one in with the in nineteen pandemic today leap pastor adam weber joins episode to share wisdom and insight from his liver perspective. Well here we go. This is the uncommon christian. Podcast with michael ari guys. Thanks for tuning in as we are continuing our conversation series cau- leaders in the living room. I'm excited for today's episode. Because i have what is becoming a very quickly. Good friend Lead pastor adam weber is joining the episode today. Adams say hi to the podcast for us. Michael it's a huge blessing to be on honored to have the time with you today. So this is a big deal to me. I appreciate it. I actually got to encounter adam actually through our lead. Passer rusty georgia's podcasts. And he had adam on and they were talking about his new book which will get tuna just a few minutes and Issued a really great story. And i just remember thinking i gotta get that guy on the podcasts. I'm a. I'm grateful for that. I don't even know what story. I shared on his fogcast. But let's go let's go. Let's i'm excited about it all right. Let's jump right in and out of once you tell us a lou about yourself who you are what you do and why you do it. Yes so. I'm born and raised from south dakota my whole life with the exception. Alary dakota coda. South dakota if you don't know is a part of the united states of america like i promised some people are like. Is that a foreign country. No it's a it's a state. So i'm born and raised here with the exception of three years when to kentucky offer them right. Maybe i went for business in marketing. Undergrad came to christ later on in high school had a huge transformation Always thought would work in the ad agency. I'd start a company of some kind That fell apart because god had a different idea. I ended up the summer before. My senior college filled in for pastor and within the first week i knew all supposed to be a pastor so went to seminarian got married actually before going seminary the next day we moved to kentucky i always say My honeymoon i drove through beautiful cities. Like lafayette indiana. A lotta people. Lafayette indiana yeah. Sure honeymoon integrity. I oh my wife honeymooned. Say that my gosh you are a terrible husband. So went to kentucky came into church. I didn't want to start a church about started a church when i was twenty. Four years old. Been here since. I'm married my becky We got four kids. I you know. I pastor a church. I'm still the most unlikely people to be pastors. Why do what i do. The greatest joy in my life is jesus. I know that something lame that a passer supposed to say. I don't feel like a pastor. But i know the greatest joy of my life is jesus so i just want to spend the rest of my life. Don't people about jesus in so. That's really my goal Legitimately picture myself in a nursing home wieland from from room to room someday telling telling people sheets so that that is. That is my goal. That's my plan. I love. I love it and you are the lead. Pastor of embraced church correct. I am yeah It's a place so just you know adam My wife and i we we have this thing that we're trying to visit every state in the country Just two and south dakota every time every time we start planning on trip might we should just do it this year. Let's do it and then because now we have because there was really only one thing to go. See in south dakota now we have to. We can go see mount rushmore and can come see adam at bruce her one of the. I always tell people one of the coolest drives. I'm dr seen most of the country. One of the coolest drives fly into sioux falls and drive across the state and you will see every possible like different landscape that you can amount. It's a really beautiful drive. If you could only choose one side of the state definitely go to the west side. Which is i'm on the east side. So i'm talking smack about that's the west side is where it's at. It's beautiful out there. That's awesome and i listen. I lived eight years in kentucky. We get all the jokes. I joke so. I hope you don't feel bad about my south dakota joke there so no worries whatsoever. Yeah if you if you ll every every single january and february. I questioned my intelligence. Gosh listening doing here. Why do we like. I imagine that indiana or sorry. South dakota is no joke but indiana winners were so bad as why we moved to california man. We my bones couldn't handle it anymore. It's intense in a legitimately. It feels like indiana doesn't even have winter compared. Gosh it's terrible. It's terrible note to self. Avoid south dakota during the winter. Well i don. We're in a series called leaders in the living room and obviously you're one of the phenomenal leaders. That has come across my radar that i've started to follow and watch how year leading and you're leading in your home and your leading in your workspaces which i'm calling right especially during a season like the one where an with this pandemic. Why don't you kind of give us a snapshot little peek into how you've been leading your family and then subsequently your workplace during this season. Yeah that's a great question honestly. This is ben for me personally. Not not belittling the heartache. That our country's gone through You know even through. But i've worried for my own parents. They both have very compromised. Health systems Himself and five worried for them. So not taking lightly that it's been one of the most life-giving seasons of my life I got two for just personally. I got to rhythm started almost immediately. When kobe hit for the first time since college i started regularly working out. I'm the healthiest. I've been physically. Since i was a since i was a senior in college down. Twenty seven pounds five inches. And i feel the best i've ever felt inside develop that rhythm and then the other rhythm was really spending some quality time of guide and again i know a pastor supposed to say that that doesn't come natural for me. I'm at any grant three achiever. Let's do in. So it's hard for me to sit. But i really got some wonderful rhythms of just praying and being still in sitting with god and so i feel like i developed those two rhythms in that really impacts. I mean it changes you when you have those two rhythm setup and so i i just feel like modeling and leading in my home is maybe the strongest. I've ever been as a husband and father of of just living it out and being filled in my kids know who is gonna come through the door at the end of the day instead of being stressed out version. Really the halo. What are we gonna do tonight. Wanna play football. You wanna play catch. And so i think for me. It's i've always tried to model a relationship with jesus in in through cohen. I feel like it's been the best version of that instead of kind of telling my kids. They should they should they should they. Should i hope they see dad confidently reading his bible constantly. Praying constantly have enjoy it being willing to say share times that i'm struggling as well but but i i really hope by a model that out and then with the staff. I think it's a it's a similar thing more than more than preaching a good message They could see the fool behind the message. You know whether it's a true story or not. And i've just been really i feel like it's been an overflow even into the staff of them like tonight it's not an embrace event. It's just me Doing a thing so we restored share about in the book actually. We've we bought the drug house behind our house and we restored it. We sold our lake cabin. That was beautiful to buy a dumb and so tonight at six thirty. We're doing a night worship there. Oh and it's been it's not gonna be huge I asked to staff people not as work. Who don't lead worship but have a passion for worship. They'd be willing to come and they both were like giddy. They're like i love leading worship. I rarely get to. I'm get i'm guessing we'll fifteen people there it's not gonna. It's a private facebook friend event. I told you can invite whoever you want to. But we intentionally didn't want to be this big right. It's i think this them even seeing that part of me. Yeah and them knowing that some of them do on. Tuesday morning i had. I had time in that same house at seven. Am in a guy. showed up man. And i think. I think them seeing that simple. Like adam lives this out like this legitimately who he is. I think is the best way to lead and also to be in just like real about. Hey guys are. Attendance is not what it's bed you know. If you would've told me are tend will be right now. If it wasn't for covid. I would have said who had a moral failure. Like what did we do. Yeah and so early. On one of my closest friends are first full. Higher said every part of my job that i love. I feel like has been taken away from me. cova now by by by ovid in So it's it's just to be honest about about The discouragment but also to continue sharing stories about how god's continue to move. I think for a leader. I think for us to be great at sharing stories of life change even right. Now is critical as a pastor as the lead pastor specifically you you. There's a lot of things that are not fun. Part as part of your job but you do get to who. We are a lot of cool god stories. Oh yeah so instead of just keeping them to yourself more than ever be sharing them. Yeah you know. Ask the person if you're gonna share specific details. Hey do you care. If i share this with the team 'cause that's the stuff that keeps the fire burn now. That's so good at him. I i love that. And i think it can be very easy for us to just look at. Just look at what's going on and think. Gosh i'm not being successful aaron brockett. Who's a leader pat passer at traders point. He said this he said you know. When covert hit the dashboard changed right. So we've been looking at the metrics for success. That change completely change. Success is now measured differently. It's not in the numbers. It's not in the finance. It's in the people. How are we engaging people. How are we helping people what life. Transformation transfer forming stories or hearing and sharing and experiencing and so I love that that's a hardship to make. Oh even for me i keep. I keep thinking it's the same scoreboard. Yup and cannot achiever. Like that's what i do. That's how wire that's how god. That's how god wired me exactly and there's a there's a negative side to every way that god has wired you you we as humans were great experts at screwing up good things that god gives us sure but like a i i just think like i think to be honest about that but it really is shifting and saying okay here. Here's what we're running after. Here's what we're going for. And i think a leader you gotta helped set bat in help. Share the vision behind. That's that continues to be a struggle for me. I'm i'm learning what that looks like and i'm also learning to get excited about that new finish line and it's a different finish line so hard to get excited you know but i think just to be real about that as important. Now that's so good and and You know you're talking to a fellow three here to though this season has been like oh man i've gotten so many things done i i probably would have never got done before because i think that's been the great part about being a three is that i've said okay. I'm going to really be in tune with my family. That's goal. I have now and i'm really gonna try to leverage relationships. Wow i wanna kill people. Wow and so which which is interesting because that kind of leads into your book. You wrote a book called. Love has a name and the premise of the book is all about learning to love the different the difficult and everyone else once you tell us a little bit about like the inspiration behind writing the book and then i really want you to share the story that actually my Attention about atta weber. Is that you set this up on a street corner so talk about the situation and then tell us that story. Yeah so To two years ago i went through the hardest season My life. I am naturally a person who loves people. My wife always tells me. I have the gift of attracting every strange ranger on the planet. I always. I always consider that a compliment. Unlike thank you thank you. I just do like i love people. I love hearing their stories. The two years ago once hard season i needed to make a hard leadership decision which was not a popular decision and i mean it was terrible. It was whole. I was devastated. Had a bunch of people that i care a whole bunch about walkout of my life I mean it was. It was horrible. Any anybody who's a leader. I really believe at some point. You will walk through something similar. I was just with a group of pastors last week from across the country. Almost every single one had been through something like that. I mean just was in when you're in it you feel like you're the only one but so anyways i was jaded for the first time in my life. I wanted to love my wife. My kids a few close friends in. That's really where our world is right now to our world is like i want to live love a few people and everybody else combined their business. You look different me. Vote different than let me think whatever this cadillac. Please stay away. But that's where. I was for the first time ever yet. Thankfully god doesn't let us stay there and so really. This book came out of me. learn what it looks like to love people. I don't wanna love people in need. I needed a guide to train me to really rewire my heart in. It was pretty cool. One quick thing about the book each chapters the name of a person who's either love me or tried to love them combined with someone similar. Jesus loved in one of the main that began to heal my soul. It's easy to think about all the people that you hate. I mean if i was to ask named five people that just annoy the crap out of you. You would be able to list them off quickly because they came too fast to my head right and body slam them in your daydreams like you've punched him in the face in your shower like you curse them out in your car you know like dislike. It's so easy. But what if we begin to focus on the five people or however many people who showed up when nobody else showed up who were faithful when they could have easily been unfaithful when what they loved us from. You're unlovable that began to change me to think about those people. So the story you're referring to a couple of years ago. I began to pray to very similar things. The first thing was got helped me to find one person a day that i can go out of my way to love. That was one thing the second thing. I began to have this feeling where anytime i felt like. God wanted me to do something i was going to say. Yes i i'm going to say. Yes and i specifically would prey the second part or even both of them. When i was struggling with anxiety myself. I would just start praying. That god is something i can do to to love somebody to show them that they matter in so one day. I had the idea that i was gonna buy a fold out desk that suitcase. That folded into a table and A mike okay. What am i gonna do with that. I'm gonna sit on a street corner and ask if i if people wanna be listened to like you need to talk grab a seat like i was just like okay. I don't even okay. Am i gonna do this year. Yep yep go buy stuff so i. I found a desk online. It was on amazon to search awesomeness desk in. Okay live but about it. I found it online. So i found this desk online. I remember. i had a wooden chair from when i was in seminary that we still have thrown away. That was in our basement. That was a quick like would full about cheer. I got a picture of my wife. I got a fake plant. I got a bobble head of a baseball player. I don't even know who he is. And then i made a sinus as needed talk. Grab a seat. So the sign a guy. A guy was doing construction in our church here. And i said hey. Can you make me like a would sign really quick. And he's like two by four shot together. Yep so he's like okay so he went downstairs literally judy and then came back up. Like this. what you're talking about. That's exactly it and that. I just wrote those words on. I put it in the back of my car and for year. I didn't do anything with it. Every so often i'd feel like hey go set up go set it up and i'm like i don't want to set that up. Who does that. That's weird like. That's i'm not gonna do that. You should do that. you should go. Do i don't want to do that. I don't want to go to one week. I didn't have to preach that sunday. It was a tuesday. And i just felt like okay. Now like you're gonna do. You don't have any excuses. And i was like okay guy like it was one of those days where i was tired of being hounded by him and i said okay guide to corners that i think would be good to work in a non shady. Sorta way there's two. There's two corners 'cause i have be strategic because this what i got i got a baldness and i'm as white as they come borderline bread. I need shade. And so those two corners on like if there's a parking spot buy them a pullover not do it so the the first corner and there is. There's no parking spot. And i'm like okay like i'm i'm okay this i get to the second one and i can tell. There's no parking spots. And i'm like all right. Got a record i tried. I tried a soon as about drive past person throws it in reverse and opens a spot right up like right next to it and i. I'm not kidding. I pull in. I give myself the pep talk of all pep talks a high extrovert. This this weird. The it's a busy corner in sioux falls as a little big town. It's like one but there's going to be people who recognize who you are. And so i i get up. I get set up. I bring my laptop out. I start typing on my computer. This active hope. Nobody's going to see me. And i'm positive. Nobody's going to sit down and within within minutes. There's people who start. Hey what are you doing. I'm i'm the sudden woody. He what are you offering to talk about. Actually whatever you wanna talk about and they just kept blocking dislike. Yep that's probably what it's going to be. Nobody's arrogance now a few minutes later I've guy scares me. He sits down. He's like so. I just sit down. I mean he just shocked me now in a said. What's your name. And he says my name's jerry he's like. What are we gonna talk about. Actually whatever you wanna talk about. He said he. I said well. How are you doing. He said i'm doing really good. He's like lately. I've been struggling. Like would just be anxious but in shifted gears. Tell me about his career. this guy. This man jerry was was in his prime mid fifties wearing a suit that was more expensive than the fiat. That i pulled up in. This seem like a very sharp professional guy. He's a scientist and he began to tell me for the next ten minutes all of his accomplishments and He he got done. He used half the words. I didn't even understand what they were but he got done. And i genuinely said. Wow that's amazing it's none of my business but When you first started you said that you've been anxious lately. Would you wanna tell me about that. I mean immediately again. This sharp professional man. You could just tell you shifted his posture everything about him and he said Lately i've been having panic attacks. And i don't know what's wrong with me. Wow any began to sob in front of me to sobbing and sounds so sorry in an essay. You don't need to be sorry. I'm so embarrassed. I don't know why. I can't stop crying right now. Said i've struggled things. I'd from time to time myself. You don't need to be embarrassing. Like i don't know what's wrong with me. My my son's actually scared about me. And that's why i'm in town. I'm staying at my son's house right now in sobbed and sobbed and sobbed and I said again. None of my business have. Have you ever thought about inviting god in the office again. Were in the. There's people walking by constantly and sobbing and he said using god won't be a part of this mess and i said well jerry actually i don't. I don't think i actually know that. Even in our darkest lowest crappiest moments that actually in those moments got even closer to us. Yeah just began to sob again. We prayed together. I asked if i could pray for them. Pray for him A it was. It was time up because his son was just getting off work. Son wasn't engineer down the street. He got up any said before. I sat down. I walked past you and i said to myself if that man still sitting there when i come back i'll sit down any said adam If for nobody else you came here for me today. Wow i mean so. That was the first of now. I do it constantly the very next time it was a it was a young thirty year. Old gal who sat down and she told me she was having a crap storm of the day. She didn't say crap different four letter word and and she said I saw you got to my car. And she said i couldn't help but wonder what are the chances that i'm one of the worst days of my life. There's a guy sitting at his desk right in front of my car. That says needed talk. Grab a seat. So she said i got. I got my butt back out of my car. She didn't say the word. But and that's why i'm sitting here. She told me she'd just fifteen minutes earlier. Got the phone call from her her. Dad's doctor that there was nothing more that they could do he is he had terminal cancer so i got to pray with her and what i found one of the simplest ways to to love somebody just to listen to them so often. We want answers and truth as leaders. That's true as dad's as family members so often we think we need all the answers all like a lot of times. We just need to listen. We don't have any answers sometimes as leaders in as people we try to give answers that are kinda tried answers and it actually causes more pain than anything instead of just being like cash. I don't know what to say. Like all right. But i i i love you just gonna listen you know and just being being present jesus was so good at being present. Yes but literally turned into these random things. I've been doing this one of the weird bizarre things i do. I do all kinds of bizarre thing in years of my life. I'll come home and she'll be like you did what i promise. I don't know what that idealistic but The the most life-giving karma week man. That's so good. And i so glad you could share that because i think i think you see that. Come out in your book. You see that posture that vulnerability but that that humility just let i may not have all the answers but man an ear right now could do a million different joyful things for somebody right. Yeah yeah what. What if we during this this campaign season like in cova in everybody yelling at each other what if as followers of jesus were the best listeners. And it wasn't that we are watered down and unwilling to take hard stands. Yes but what if we were just really good at listening and people knew that we were. We were listening to listen not listening to respond or to shut down or to win a conversation but we just listened really really well. yeah man. that's that's so good at him. I appreciate you encouraging. S and that and now let's so adam wrote the book love has a name And it's learning to love the different the difficult and everyone else adam working. Everybody get this book app. Yeah you can pretty much get it anywhere. Books are sold so amazon. Target walmart barnes and noble attitude. Grocery list so weird about. I don't think i've ever bought a book from walmart. Maybe i need to start behind. I mean it's probably possible now. Just a book anymore though. 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Marked change in tone in CDC meat plant reports raises questions

MSNBC Rachel Maddow (audio)

46:10 min | 9 months ago

Marked change in tone in CDC meat plant reports raises questions

"The show we did nine eastern on. Msnbc thank you for being here. I want to start tonight by introducing you to Dr Jane Willcox. She's a cardiologist. Works at Northwestern Medicine in Chicago before I started this role. I was nervous and a little anxious facing different disease process than I'd ever seen before I trained during h one n one and while I remember the occasional sad case of a young healthy person coming to this disease I was not prepared to enter into an entire unit and multiple units with troves of relatively healthy patients who are now fighting for their life with Kobe. Pneumonia when these release started getting tough in my unit it was a Sunday and I was working and we were putting breathing tube after breeding these patients. We got up to fourteen or fifteen ventilators in our eighteen bed. Icu and it was just one after the other and we were all scared. Nobody knows how to navigate this. And we're just taking it shift-by-shift in day by day trying to get overwhelmed. One of the things. That's really hard for us is as ICU. Nurses we're used to having constant access to our patients. We have very sick patients. And we're used to going in there and assessing and reassessing them but now we have to really close to our care to try to cut down exposure time in the room. The last time in the room the less time we have to be exposed the disease the less chance we have of bringing home through our family. But that's also really hard because we're under constant worry that we're gonNA miss something. We're going to miss a new symptom. We're GONNA miss a new vital part of information that comes from our assessments. I wish I knew the sheer volume of patients that would have north western. I wish I knew how sick they would be Because that would have helped me prepare a little. Bit Better Mentally Nurse now for about twelve thirteen years. But I've never seen patients that are sick I just wish I knew how many resources each patient would be requiring. These patients require a lot of care. It's very heavy care. It's a lot of specialized machines. These patients have no family around to be there or in the last moments. And you try everything you try so hard to keep these people alive to make them better to hope that they'll get excavated in the ICU. But unfortunately I've just seen so many of them die. I think this is also taking a toll on all of the staff. We'VE RUN OUT OF LEAD TUBING WE'VE run out of suction devices for the mouth We've run out of blood gas syringes things that we take for granted on a day to day basis. It's hard to stay positive like I said earlier. We are all trying so hard to do everything for these patients. We're giving them. Maximum oxygen support their on numerous medications to support them and we'll get these patients and have them for days and will think maybe they'll get better. Maybe they just need time and may still die said that time frontline health care providers doctors and nurses both working in Chicago and Saint Louis Missouri. That lost young woman. There is a nurse from Maryland who volunteered to come to New York City to serve on the front lines at the apex. Of New. York's fight you can see. She's pretty flattened by what she has gone through. I want to show you one more tonight though that we just got in from a senior physician at Mount Sinai in New York. His name is Dr Mush Good Wani and he is a cardiac critical care. Physician Watch this welcome to another day in covert land bright and sunny and it seems like things maybe slowing down a little bit. Not really for the ICU. Because we've been helping our sister hospitals in Brooklyn Queens who've really gotten disproportionately affected by this disease. And so we've been taking patients from there and then a couple of patients from the field hospital in central park so the I was going to stay busy for Ohio There are lots of patients who are intimated and on a breathing machine who's really courses yet to be determined and obviously the hope is that we can see most if not all of them. We're GONNA start rounds and the way the rounds are structured is typically in the normal ICU. They will be a senior resident doctor known as a fellow who specializing in that specialty. But right now everybody specialties. All mixed up. It doesn't matter. What their specialties? Everyone is pitching in talking about the next patient. So we have him on all the groups we have. He's currently all leave on Bazo at sable. He sedated and paralyzed Off Land and he's on an insulin drip for hike. Licey getting dialysis as on. Tv H is giving mechanical ventilation support. Everyone here is getting like Catechal. Support Mechanical ventilator artificial kidney and six IB drips at the same time in. What are you GonNa do today to help with the Dialysis Catheter? For and why are we putting? O'neill dialysis catheters. Oh that's a good question so a lot of patients are going into kidney failure and where we're kind of this machine. So this is an alternative method of performing dialysis. These do you think it's time to relax a little bit? And back off on social distancing and wearing masks absolutely not population of patients. It's still very much active. And we're working really hard to take care of. These patients. Got Them better so you think that if we back off. The beauty surgeons the cases absolutely. It's just way Amina is experienced cardiac nurse and I'm going to ask a very important question. Do you think it's time to start backing off on social distancing. I think we have to continue what we've been doing or else we are going to you first. Everything that conflict that is still quite a substantial burden of illness and severity or multi organ failure. We have patients who have not responded to all the usual interventions. The big fear now is what happens next. Are we going to see recrudescence of this illness? Are we going to see spikes coming back especially as we start to relax and loosen some of the restrictions? They have to be prepared because we have really learned a lot from this real. I opening life-changing CDs of events has happened over the last few months or so this I opening the life changing series of events that has happened over these last two months or so eye opening life-changing. Yes I mean we are all experiencing that right last two months have been really freaking weird and terrible but none of us have had the life changing eye opening experience. That's comparable to the sixty five thousand Americans who have lost their lives already and their families. None of us have gone through what the tens of thousands of Americans have gone through. Who fought this thing almost to the death and then survived. I think we've been asking for frontline. Healthcare workers to send US stuff. I think there's a reason that hospital staff keep sending us videos like these celebrating filming and capturing for posterity the triumphant release of some of their patients from the hospital. It's clear that they really feel like they need to uphold that. It is possible for hospitalized corona virus patients to still beat it to still survive to finally get to go home because people do get so sick from this virus and they need such intense care in the hospital. I think the doctors and nurses want us to see this ourselves so that we don't give hope but I think they also need it for themselves so that they don't give hope because they are working so hard with people who are so sick with such a confounding confounding virus for which there is as yet no treatment so yeah. We have all had an eye opening life-changing last two months or so Dr Gidwani said But none of us civilians have had what the doctors and nurses have had been working in these swamped hospitals in these cove. Emergency rooms and converted covert only. I see us but then of course there's one other group of Americans who has been right at the front of the front line just as much as the hospital. Workers have been people who have been caring for tons of covert patients. People who have been putting themselves at risk getting infected in great numbers themselves because they haven't had enough protective equipment to keep themselves safe while they care for large numbers of corona virus patients and those Americans have had different couple of months than the rest of us have to a difficult dangerous life-changing past couple of months and they are the largely underpaid often totally unrecognized people who work in nursing homes. Where where we know. The virus has been exacting a toll of biblical proportions among the population of Americans who reside in nursing homes and long term CARE FACILITIES. But because of that. There is something else that I want to show you tonight this Friday night. We've been in touch with frontline health pervert providers in hospitals We have been talking about the fact that more Americans are dying from this epidemic in nursing homes than any other single place the place. You are most at risk of both getting this virus and dying from it in America is in a nursing home so if we the American people want to save the most lives we have to focus on the places where the most lives are at risk we have to start to see the nursing homes and long term care facilities around us literally. I mean we need to know where they are in your town in your county wherever you live in America listening to me right now in your town in your Cownie. The place where the most lives are going to be stolen by this thing are the lives in nursing homes and long term care facilities so you should know where these communities these facilities are in your community. You should if you're part of any activist group any political group any Church or synagogue or mosque any civic group you should know if the nursing homes around you first of all you should know who they are where they are and you should know if the nursing homes around you need something if they need things they don't have. You should figure out if there is some way that you can help them get help. I mean I'm speaking very broadly here. Not Trying to start a movement or anything. But I'm just saying in terms of where Americans are dying. That's where Americans are dying and there isn't any help coming from the top. There's sort of happy coming from the talk now. Top now about this from Washington but there really hasn't been any help coming from the top coming from the federal government to try to keep Americans alive in this most vulnerable place and so local communities are going to have to do this from the ground up in order to keep as many people alive as possible in these facilities where there otherwise just being cut down and I want to show you this tonight because people look really are starting to show up for their local nursing homes all over the country. This is today in Lexington North Carolina Davidson County North Carolina. They had three residents die last week at this one facility from Corona virus. They've got forty one corona virus cases among the residents there now at Allston Brooke Nursing Facility. Well this today is the town. The county the community there in North Carolina showing up for them. And you know you can't visit nursing home. You can't come inside. You can't put the residents to any further risk but this is a way to try to connect that's North Carolina. This was from Glens Falls New York yesterday. Five different nursing homes were visited their word apparently thirty or so cars. People put signs on their cars thanking the people who work there reaching out to the people who live there. These were from Tuesday and Wednesday this week. People again turning out to think and connect with their local nursing homes and people working there and living there literally the Americans whose lives are most endangered by this disaster. This is a fountain in South Carolina. We've also got footage from Albertville Alabama Albertville has had a big outbreak centered. Big Chicken plant there. But as we know outbreaks in one kind of a facility do not tend to stay inside that facility and so if you've got a big meat processing plant that's got a whole bunch of cases you are soon going to have a bunch of cases in your nursing home in your community to says the highly contagious communicable disease. That's how it's going to work. I should also say vice versa. If you've got a lot of cases in your nursing homes you're going to get cases in your community you're ultimately going to get cases in places where it is going to spread like wildfire especially aggregate work environments. That aren't closed like meat processing plants. Here's some pictures from other people turning out to support their local nursing homes in their communities in Brunswick Maine Lubbock Texas. We got some pictures. It's it's everywhere. It's happening now everywhere spontaneously. It's really nice to see. These are all just photos and videos taken just over the past few days. We've also heard that. A charity called Global Empowerment Mission. That was working to get donations to healthcare facilities. They also started organizing p. p. e. donations for nursing home staff now as well that had not been part of what they're working on from the outset but now they've realized that nursing homes need this material for their staff as well and they've started helping nursing homes too. It's a big charity effort. Lots of high dollar donations. One of the places are now starting to focus on is nursing homes. That's great. Here's what I want you to see from new hope Minnesota and and this was actually a week ago now but the story behind. This is interesting last week. This story ran in the Minneapolis Star Tribune about the Saint Therese of New Hope Nursing Home. Right very worrying headline last week very worrying situation. This is a two hundred and fifty eight bed nursing home. This is the Star Tribune reporting last Wednesday But they had twelve deaths at that nursing home from Corona virus. Later that day this happened outside that nursing home people coming out to support that nursing home The people who live there people who work there trying to lift them up. You can see the signs that people are holding their we stand united. Thank you for all you do. Your all sunshine for your residents. We stand united. I stand with Saint Therese. Thank you but the situation at that facility which it is great to see them getting community support situation there has really bad that facility as I mentioned was reporting twelve deaths as of last week that appears to have been what prompted this rally in support of them. Twelve last week will now as this week they are reporting forty-seven deaths at that facility. Forty seven people have died there of the remaining residents at that facility. They've got one hundred and thirty positive cases and they only know that because they were just this week able to finally get everybody tested about facility. I mean listen. Our government may have really screwed up the response to this crisis and they may be continuing to screw it up. I will tell you. The administration yesterday finally announced that they're thinking about maybe getting together. Some experts some big brains to maybe start thinking about talking about what we might maybe could do about the fact that best. Guess maybe twenty thousand Americans possibly more have already been cut down in nursing homes in less than two months by this virus. They just yesterday announced that they're gonNA think about getting a group together at the federal level to start thinking about that. They want you to know how urgently they are considering this considering this problem they are going to meet for the first time they think in late. May sometime date. They're just aiming. It may be trying to convene for the first time in late. May government has not been johnny on the spot when it comes to trying to keep Americans alive in any significant numbers and the glaring. I don't exactly know what to call it in polite company the glaring. It's not an aptitude. It's not in capability. I WANNA call it unwillingness but I don't know the worst of what they have failed to do is evident in the places where the most Americans are dying. They've done nothing and the administration so screwed up the testing situation for the whole country from the very outset that now even months into this now with sixty five thousand Americans dead. It's still hard to get testing even for the facilities where the most people are dying. They most desperately need to test people because they need to know who positive so they can isolate them from the people who aren't who were at grave risk of getting it and then dying from it. I mean the government has just absolutely screwed this up and it is not getting any better but we know as Americans. We have lived long enough to know who needs priority access to tests and where the most help is needed and where people are at the most risk in Minnesota where that facility. Saint Therese of new hope is is located. They think that nearly eighty percent of deaths in the state have been in nursing homes nearly eighty percent of the deaths in Minnesota. Yeah where do you think you ought to focus your resources there and the outbreak the epidemic? Minnesota doesn't have to start in these facilities but sure that's where it ends up. And that's where it'll take the most lives test their try to keep the people they're alive. They're at the most risk of dining. The quickest in the greatest numbers Saint Therese of new hope. Just got everybody. Tested in Sioux Falls. South Dakota where the huge outbreak there was centered on the Big Smithfield. Meat Processing Plant. Today one large nursing home in Sioux falls announced seven new deaths seven Americans in Grand Island Nebraska. Where the big outbreak there is also centered on a B. S. meat processing plant. Their local health director just announced ten new nursing home deaths. Yesterday I mean Test Andy Shall Find. We know where it is. We know where it's going to be. Go look there and you will find a facility that needs help and where the people living there and or working. There need more protection than they have got. Why is this so hard to focus our efforts like this Montgomery County Pennsylvania this week? They finally got their hands on enough tests to test everybody at the Montgomery County jail as of last week at that jail they thought they knew how many cases they had once they tested everyone. They found that the actual infection rate at that jail was thirty times higher than what they thought they were dealing with. And that isn't just like a wool. Math moment. That then of course requires action to prevent the other eighty percent of the prisoners in that facility from getting infected by the fifteen to twenty percent. They have just discovered already have it and you can't count on only testing. People have symptoms are only isolating people who have symptoms. It doesn't matter if you have symptoms you have to test people if they're positive they can infect other people whether or not they have symptoms. It's not rocket science but you have to test as of today. We have the third largest prison outbreak in the country. Newly discovered that Trousdale Turner Correctional Center in Trousdale County Tennessee. How did they find that? They had one thousand three hundred forty nine new cases at that prison in Trousdale County Tennessee today. They found that out because they tested the freaking prison at long last they tested twenty seven hundred prisoners there more than half. Have it? Okay now you have to act to prevent everybody else from getting it both prisoners and staff in that facility. It is a call to action. It tells you where the problem is. And what you need to do. Tennessee's governor says he's now looking for resources to try to test all of the other prisons in the state of Tennessee because this is the first one they tested and they turned up the third largest outbreak in America. I mean it'll be great if when they test all of the other prisons in Tennessee. They don't find huge numbers in all of them but if and when they do that will be important. Information about what will likely be some of the biggest outbreaks in the country. Some of the biggest outbreaks on earth in a state that may or may not be prepared to handle both what that means for those prisons and jails but also what would already have meant for the communities around those facilities that all the staff go home to at the end of every shift because once you find out that you've got more than thirteen hundred cases inside the prison. Guess what you're about to learn about what's going on the community outside your prison. It's here in huge numbers. We have an absolutely enormous corona virus epidemic in this country. We've got more than one point. One million known cases and Bupkus for testing when we do have tests when we test the places we know by now are likely to be places where it is spreading unchecked. We are consistently finding supersized numbers everywhere. Yesterday we reported on the results of testing at the Tyson meat. Plant IN LOGAN'S PORT INDIANA. This is CASS. County Indiana. Were at the start of the week. Local county officials declared a county wide public health emergency. They started testing all the employees at that Tyson plant and found nearly nine hundred of them were positive corona virus. That's what we learned yesterday. Eight hundred nine hundred workers at one plant today we learned. They're going to reopen the plan with nearly nine hundred people who work there positive already in Nobles County Minnesota where the epidemic has centered on a big J. J. BS meat processing plant They've got nearly nine hundred cases now in that county that county has only twenty thousand people. It's an increase in Nobles County of two hundred and thirty five percent in one week in terms of the number of cases. And wonder what that's all coming from in Saint Joseph Missouri. A meat plant. There reported that they had zero cases as of two weeks ago last week. They reported forty-six cases. Yesterday they reported one hundred and twenty six cases today reported two hundred ninety five cases the company who owns that plant telling the Kansas City star quote we will continue to use this information at triumph foods in developing our daily stuffing and work plans. Yup that's at least but right but at least you can now do that because you have test results that tell you you know at a bare minimum. Who really can't be coming to work right now. Symptoms are not in Nebraska where the state government doesn't treat cases in meat plants. Where THE GOVERNOR SAYS? He doesn't think the virus spreads in meat plants at all the workers must be getting it at home in. Nebraska where the meat plants themselves are not exactly being pushed by the state government to disclose to the public when their employees weirdly coincidentally all turn out to keep getting corona virus. The Big Meat Plant in Dakota City Nebraska. Did just test their employees. That plant has steadfastly refused to release the number of positive employees at that plant. It's been open all this time but there have been a lot of suspicions about what's going on there because the surrounding metro area there it's Dakota City Nebraska but the surrounding metro area. There's actually Sioux City Iowa and the Sioux City Iowa era has started to notice a big spike in cases in the community and people turning up at the hospitals unexpectedly large numbers and local mayors Sioux city. Area have been pleading for two to the to the governor's to the company's pleased to get some information about where all these cases in the Sioux City area might becoming from well that plant into Kota City. Nebraska has now done testing of their employees and somebody leaked to the city journal. The results six hundred sixty nine positives among people working at that plant nearly seven hundred cases among people who work at that plant. That's over fifteen percent of the adult workforce of all of Dakota City Nebraska. It's amazing what happens when you test for it even if your governor chooses not to believe it's happening. This was a protest today in Lebanon County Pennsylvania where people who work at the huge local Belen Evans. Chicken plant say that multiple workers facility have died from corona virus already That Belen Evans Plant has released zero public information about corona virus cases among its employees. They won't even address whether any of their employees have died from it and so today that earned them a mock funeral procession around the plant to try to get someone's attention government's response to this is terrible but we can all see the places that need attention not looking is not a safe way to hide this stuff and I'm not point. We have an exclusive story. You have not seen anywhere else. We think we've dug up something. That may be important. 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I'll be talking with my friend. Heather mcghee about the book. She's writing about how American racism ends up hurting us. All societies that has a public health system that is highly functioning well coordinated and well resourced are obviously going to do better in a public health crisis and we have resisted that in the richest country on the planet in large part for the past one hundred years because of racism. That's this week on. Why is this happening search for? Why is this happening? Wherever you're listening right now and subscribe earlier this week. I raised a worry about a CBC investigation that recently happened at the Smithfield meat processing plant in Sioux Falls. South Dakota that's been linked to well over one thousand cases in the Sioux falls area. Cdc of course. There's a long history of investigating public health emergencies. They've got world class specialized disease. Detectives That that work on things like this. They've got the whole epidemic intelligence service at the CDC and these are the folks that actually get dispatched into the field to investigate the root. Cause when there's an E coli outbreak or a TB outbreak or a sudden spike in legionnaire's cases and a veteran's home somewhere. I mean these are. These are great. Scientists they're brave and interesting and intrepid. They go out onto the field small teams and the investigate and they write short punchy report. That explains what happened. And that has actionable guidance. In it so local officials can get a handle on whatever health crisis they have been dealing with. You invited the. Cdc They Send Their Elite Disease Detectives They. That team figures out what happened. They tell you in no uncertain terms with no minced words. What you need to do to fix it and then you fix it. That's what's supposed to happen. That's what does happen every time we know of that the CDC has done an epidemiological investigation in a public health. Emergency that is the system. That is how it works. That is not what happened though when the CDC visited that meat packing plant in Sioux Falls. South Dakota with that big important. Scary outbreak there. Now I WANNA be clear. There's no reason to think there was anything wrong with the investigation or with what the scientists figured out about the outbreak at the Smithfield plant or what needed to be done to run that plant without continuing to spread the virus like wildfire wildfire there among its employees. The investigation itself seems to have been totally normal. Cdc totally normal and sound. What was not normal was the report that was issued at the end of it instead of issuing a CDC report with clear cut directives like CDC always does weirdly in a way that I have never seen before CDC instead. Put out a report on what happened at that. Plant in Sioux falls that repeatedly told the plant there to consider implementing certain protocols to do things if feasible and when possible right at the top of that reported even said this quote these recommendations are discretionary and are not required or mandated by CDC. Cdc does not say things like that in these kinds of reports. What is that doing here? Where did that come from? Who added that so on Tuesday night? We brought you. That report is sort of raised that. Worry it's when I asked. Cdc Are you okay as of tonight we still do not know exactly what has gone wrong at CDC. We have an idea but we haven't yet nailed it down totally but we have narrowed it down to a two day period in terms of exactly when it seems things went bad and I can show you what happened before and after in that two day window. So here it is. This is a report that hasn't previously been made public. This is a report that was issued by CDC team after they visited the big GPS meat plant in Greeley Colorado that has also been dealing with its own large corona virus outbreak. And as you can see this report on the Colorado situation. It's dated April Twentieth. Unlike the report that was written about the Smithfield. South Dakota plant just two days later. This one is totally normal. This one is very straightforward quote. These recommendations are intended specifically for the J really beef plant the health and Safety Committee Labor representatives should develop an implementation plan for these and any other interventions to be rolled out in the workforce that's how CBC talks officials should develop an official should develop an implementation plan. Here's what you're GONNA do. I mean that is a far cry from what we saw just two days later. In the Sioux Falls SMITHFIELD REPORT. These recommendations are discretionary and not required or mandated. Right and this is the same agency. Visiting meat plants right around the exact same time plants that are confronting exactly the same kind of crises. But something happened at CDC in the span of those two days. Right I mean. They put up the Greeley Report Colorado report. It's normal two days later. They put up their Sioux falls report. And there's all this mealy mouth non. Cdc language that tells the plant they don't actually have to do anything look at the juxtaposition. Here's what the CDC CDC told the plant in Greeley Colorado on April twentieth emphasize that face coverings must cover the nose and mouth at all times and should remain in place until taken off safely two days later. Here's what they told the Smithfield plant in Sioux falls face coverings are generally recommended so you go from must cover the news and mouth at times to generally recommended. Here's the Colorado Guidance from April twentieth provide all entrance to the plan with a face covering and show them how it needs to be worn two days later for the South Dakota report quote. If feasible all employees should wear the face covering if feasible. But if not you're fine the CDC in the April Twentieth Colorado Report says teach workers to ask for new face coverings when there's becomes dirty wet and or difficult debris through two days later in the South Dakota South Dakota report. It's not nearly so stern quote the facial covering should be discarded and replaced when dirty or wet if possible to that if possible but you know. Colorado Plant April twentieth was told stagger breaks to minimize the total number of workers that are in common areas locker rooms lunch rooms and hallways at the same time somehow. Two days later in South Dakota that guidance becomes staggered shifts. Start Times and break times as much as feasible. Cdc In April Twentieth tells the Colorado Plant Put handwashing stations. The outdoor break areas to encourage handwashing. They also told to install handwashing stations or additional sanitizer dispensers in the lunchroom but two days later in the South Dakota report. That plant was told portable hand. Washing facilities could be utilized. They could be if you want April twentieth and Colorado says this physical barriers should not be used as a replacement for maintaining at least six feet between workers however when that is not possible barriers can be installed two days later in South Dakota. The was feeling a little different about that telling that plant to quote. Consider the following actions to physically separate employees. Consider them think about these then. There's just the last one here's what the CDC recommended in Colorado Report on April twentieth of quote ensure all workers who have fever of one hundred point four degrees or more are sent directly to secondary screening provide specimen collection and ordering of Kovic. Nineteen testing on site for workers during secondary screening. Who are found found to have fever and symptoms. Colorado report says quote entrance who are not workers at the plant who indicate they've had a fever or symptoms should not be allowed entry to the plan. Now that's the report from Colorado April Twentieth. How in the span of two days did that guidance get more into this for the South Dakota report quote if possible specifically ask employees about recent history of fever if possible but we know it might not be possible? We don't know what happened at CDC between April twentieth when they were still behaving like CDC and April twenty second when they were this new thing. But I'm telling you something happened and the CDC is not behaving go away it always has been and the. We really need them to be behaving right now. We have narrowed down now to a two day window in which something broke. And I'm telling you we are GONNA figure this out more on this story straight ahead. Stay with us. This is the headline at the medical news outlets stat news today quote. We need the real. Cdc back and we need it now. Quote since the beginning of the cove in nineteen pandemic the CDC has been inexplicably absent. An Americans are suffering and dying for it. Cdc has been slow and it's response inadequate in an area where it is always excelled evidence based guidance throughout this pandemic. It's been slow in coming confusing and not necessarily evidence based Americans reliance. Adc FOR EVIDENCE BASED GUIDANCE. We have not received it. This piece at stat news was written by Dr Sheesh Jaw. He's the director of the Harvard. Public Health Institute is a professor at Harvard Medical School. He's also a practicing physician in public health expert. Who says he's worried among other things about the mushy week watered-down guidance dribbling out of the CDC in the middle of the greatest public health threat. This country has seen what is screwing things up at the CDC right now at this time when we need them the most Joining us now is Dr Shaw. He's director of the Harvard Global Health Institute. Dr John. Thank you for taking time to be here. I know there's a lot of demands on your time right now until thank you so much for having me. I wanted to talk to you tonight because honestly I was struck by the bluntness of your criticism of CDC in this piece. I have been chasing something. That is driving me crazy. Which is that. I feel like the CDC started to produce very non CDC like guidance or lack of guidance when it came to them investigating that big meat plant outbreak in in South Sioux Falls. South Dakota I'm worried that there's something broken inside. Cdc which is why we're not getting the kind of guidance that you say we really need. Yes original this has been baffling to all of us in the public health world in writing. This piece was one of the most painful things I've done in a long time. I grew up as a public health person loving admiring the CDC arguing believing that it is the best public health agency in the world and the scientists are still there but in this entire pandemic has been one fiasco after another and it's either possible that all scientists sudden forgot their signs or there's something at the leadership level that's really hindering them and my theory is is much more the lap and we've seen it repeatedly. They messed up the testing. They haven't collected the data the guidance that you've been laying out has been mushy and often not evidence base and my sense is that the leadership of the CDC has has been sidelined In a way that is really really awful to the American people will say that one of the things that I kind of woke up the other day. I don't sleep very well anymore. Everybody feels this way but I woke up the other day with just thinking you know I in the movie version of this one. I have imagined America being in a major public health crisis that captures all of our attention and changes our lives. I think that we should be getting briefings from doctors every day like. I don't think that we should be getting. Don't care whether or not we're getting noise from the president every day. Which shouldn't there be a CDC briefing every day. At the very start of this. There was an just something as simple as that as the CDC itself. Speaking on its own terms. Independent of any politician offering scientific information and explaining it seems like just a basic thing that we. I think we expected. And it's weird that we don't have it absolutely and so you would think that the CDC would be the source of data and evidence for this pandemic. And when I started writing this piece I called a public health experts in friends around the country and I said look if you want to know how many covered cases we have in the US. Where do you start? No-one said the CDC. I said humming hospitalizations. There are for Kobe. Where do you go? No-one said the CDC CDC has just been absent and that it isn't because they all of a sudden forgot how to do all of this. There's clearly been a decision to sideline the CDC to make sure that they're not collecting presenting data to the American people and it makes the work of all public health officials across the country. Much much harder we need the CDC BACK. We really do. We're GONNA have a much harder time getting through without the. Do you know how we get them. Back I mean I understand that in public health both science but also the political science And you've been fighting for these for agencies like this to to get their due in terms of resources and respect in the bureaucratic world that is federal government. Is there somebody who could fix this? Could Congress fix this through better oversight? Could Public Pressure Fix this. How do you imagine this getting right? We really need them back. So the good news is all of the great people of a CDC. Most of them are still there right. They have hung on And so when I look at. Who's still hanging in the top scientists? They're still there so we don't have to like bring them back. That's the goods of the bad news. Is that they've been muzzled and they are not getting to do. They know how to do well and we have to find a way to on Muslim. We have to find a way to let them do their job. And I don't know who does Congress. I think public pressure. All of those things would help. Ultimately I think Dr Redfield who was the was the appointed head of the I think that's a look himself in the mirror and ask. Is this the public health agency? He wants to lead in the greatest pandemic in a century. And if he can't do it he should step aside and make sure that somebody else can leave that agency and help. The American people get through this period Dr Shave Gel Director of the Harvard Global Health Super Helpful to have year tonight. Dr Thank you for your time Rachel. All right we've got more ahead here tonight. Stay with nineteen. Twenty eight was a rough year to work on Capitol Hill. Three congressman collapsed in a single month and one died in his office. They weren't all collapsing and dying from the same thing. But for whatever reason in one thousand nine thousand eight they were just not a hale and hearty lot that year nevertheless when one member of Congress died in his office it took two hours for a doctor to show up to the scene. That's because there was no doctor who actually worked in the house or the Senate To make sure that never happened again. The office of the attending physician was created at the Capitol. Its mission is to oversee the well being of both representatives and senators senators on Monday the. Us Senate is due back in session in person on the orders of the seventy eight year. Old Republican leader in the Senate Mitch. Mcconnell senators will be forced to make their way back to Washington D. C. In person despite the fact that yesterday was the single deadliest day yet in the epidemic in Washington. Dc and despite the fact that nearly half of all senators are age sixty five or older. Six of them are age eighty or older seven. If you count Lamar Alexander. Who's about to turn eighty very soon? I mean per the CDC that means they're at higher risk right. They have the Senate and now the attending physician whose only job is to oversee be wellbeing of Representatives and senators the attending physician is now sounding a foghorn about this plan to bring all the senators back on Monday. Warning that quote corona virus tests will be available for staffers and senators. Who are ill but there are not enough to proactively test. All One hundred senators. And even if a senator can get a test it will take days to get the results. Nevertheless they're all coming back to work together late this afternoon. The attending physician gave senators a list of things they should before Monday. Like installing sneeze guards and rearranging their office furniture. So people don't sit close together reengineering airflow so the virus doesn't spread that way. No rush right plenty of time to get that stuff done this weekend. So high risk in kind of high importance group is about to board planes and trains back to a city. That's blinking red with corona virus. And when they got there there aren't enough tests to figure out. Who has it before they all get together? Seems like an excellent plan. Watch this space one quick last thing before we go tonight. If you by any chance have some information that you could share about the politicization or artificial weakening of scientific investigations of meat. Plant Coruna virus outbreaks. Or if you have some information to share about a nursing home in your area or if your community is doing something to help or support first responders or health care providers and it's something that you think maybe everybody should do or at least we should all know about it. I want to know about that. I want you to tell me if there's ever anything you think that we should know here on this show. Please tell us about it go to www dot. Send it to Rachel Dot Com. 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Sen. Elizabeth Warren and the Native American Ancestry Question

CNN's The Daily DC

10:04 min | 1 year ago

Sen. Elizabeth Warren and the Native American Ancestry Question

"Official secrets from the director of eye in the sky based on the true story of catherine gone a british spy who risked a death sentence to make public her own government's efforts to lie to take the country to war starring cure nightly ray fines and matt smith in select theaters august thirtieth visit official. We'll secrets dot movie for details. Finding the right pros for home. Projects can be tough and spark a lot of questions like how do i find a pro who can help will they do a a good job. Will i get a fair price. That's where homeadvisor can help from leaky faucets to major remodels. Homeadvisor connects you to the right pro for the job in seconds and even even helps you get a fair price reviews. Check project cost guides and book appointments. Go to homeadvisor dot com or download the free homeadvisor app to start your next project. Hey everyone. I'm david chalian the c._n._n. Political director and this is the daily d._c. Thanks so much for listening today on the podcast elizabeth warren and her native american ancestry or lack thereof. You may recall that it is been almost a year sins. Elizabeth warren rolled out that slickly produced video where she announced d._n._a. Results hoping to put the whole issue that has dogged her political career since twenty twenty twelve when she ran for the united states senate about her claim to native american ancestry well. You may know by now the d._n._a. Hey tests. She did did anything but put to rest that issue. It's something that president trump has seized on as the the way he wants to frame elizabeth warren he uses a the ethnic slur pocahontas he calls her and he recently as recently as his rally in new hampshire last week once again but moaned the fact that he rolled out that nickname too early and that he he's gonna be able to use it again. If elizabeth warren rises the one as the nominee in the democratic party elizabeth warren who is so comfortable in her skin in like every other realm of the campaign in anything she's asked about talking about this. This is one area that has clearly been an area of discomfort for her. She has in the past apologized to cherokee nation when they put out. A statement in response wants to her d._n._a. Test and yet she's never been able to completely resolve the issue. It comes up some voters will bring it up some democrats who like elizabeth with warren but are worried that may impede her ability to win the election so today elizabeth warren was in sioux city iowa several other presidential contenders were there's well to appear before a native american group and take questions from native american leaders and warren clearly went in wanting to lean into policy as she does more often than not you know on friday she had rolled out a legislative plan and with deb holland one of the two first native american women to serve in congress and who is endorsed elizabeth warren and congresswoman holland was there at the event and sioux city eddie and elizabeth warren clearly wasn't going to wait to see if she got a question about her past with the native american issue. She dealt with it head on in her opening comments. I want you to hear elizabeth warren offer up yet another apology today on this issue and she just dealt with it straight right off the bat when she entered the theater and took the stage in sioux city. Here's elizabeth warren. I wanna i pay my respects of that's an extraordinary introduction and i feel so cared for by the women who walked me out. Thank you very much deb. Thank you for the generous introduction deb has been such a good partner and such a good friend and i stand here and i see so many people i've had a chance to work with on issues like preventing suicide and missing and murdered indigenous women and trying to get full funding for health care and for housing i see young leaders who come come and talk to me about the new businesses they're starting on tribal lands a graduates of our tribal colleges who have innovative ideas the tribal leaders who remind me every day how much are tribes serve their citizens and their neighbors. The message i hear from indian country is one of resilience and hope now before i going further in this. I want to say this like anyone. Who's being honest with themselves. I know that i have made mistakes. I am sorry for harm. I have caused i have listened and i have learned a lot and i am grateful for the many conversations that we've had together rather it is a great honor to be able to partner with indian country and that's what i've tried to do as a senator and that's what i promise i will do as president of the united states of america so once again elizabeth warren offering this time a broader autre apology about getting it wrong you know and owning up to that looking inwardly at herself and owning up to her mistakes on this and once again constantly trying to incorporate into her remarks today her desire to partner with the native american community on on the policies that she's proposed and on her campaign more broadly m._j. Lee our correspondent who covers elizabeth warren my colleague she also mentioned mentioned that elizabeth warren's campaign has just rebooted its website and the quote unquote fact squad section that looks to push back on do things the campaign things are untrue or not properly contextualized and articles about them and as m._j. Had reported what is gone from the fact squad section of the website now. Is that dna video that slickly produced video that they put out nearly a year ago is now gone from the elizabeth warren website. I lived there all along. Obviously you could still see it on youtube or elsewhere. I'm sure but now the only thing that's included in this family. Family section of the facts wad piece of the website is the boston globe article that exonerated her from after an exhaustive awesome investigation from any of her hirings or any job she had was not a result the evidence showed of her claim of native american ancestry so oh that's what the website now please but no video of the dna tests which clearly was botched. If she's still sort of apologizing for how she she handled it. The question is from here forward. If elizabeth warren is the nominee and if donald trump lives up to his promise that he's going to revive the ethnic slur nickname mande make this sort of how he frames elizabeth warren then. There's probably nothing she can do to put it fully abreast. She just needs to sort of mitigate it. As a negative negative today this was the most high profile moment of her presidential campaign thus far in terms of this issue sort of stepping into into a native american forum and dealing with it head on as how she chose to deal with it and she did not get questions on chelsea didn't meet with the press afterwards afterwards immediately so maybe she'll get more questions come from the press but in terms of the native american leadership on the stage this was not an issue that they they were pressing her on and again as you just heard it is one though that she didn't ignore and she probably wanted to avoid those headlines of worn ignores controversy so instead once again has a round of headlines about her offering up an apology about an issue that she no doubt wishes was put to rest and far behind her but i think we can safely say after it's been with her for the last seven years. If indeed elizabeth warren the nominee the idea that this issue is not going to to emerge in the election for her still have to grapple with. I think would be a little fantasy clearly. If she's the nominee she is still going to have to deal with it but she's laying in down a track record of what she can point to of her past apologies on this matter and her attempt to craft policy and partner with the native american american community <hes> she'll continue to point to those things while she no doubt still has to address the fundamental question of why she'd been claiming native american ancestry and and if she believes that there's more for her to offer in terms of apologies or recognition recognition or if she believes she said everything she needs to say on the matter but this was elizabeth warren dealing with one of her achilles heels today on the campaign trail that does it for this edition of the daily d._c. Thank you all so much for listening. Hope you'll tune in again right here tomorrow. Official secrets starring cure nightly ray ray fines and matt smith from the academy award winning director of eye in the sky. The film is based on the true story of catherine gone. A british spy who risked the death sentence to make public her own government's efforts to lie to take the country to war a league author of the pentagon papers daniel ellsberg calls the most important and courageous ages in history deadline hollywood raves offical secrets is the most gripping thriller of twenty nine thousand nine hundred and that nightly has never been better offical secrets in select theaters august thirtieth visit official secrets dot movie for details.

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571: 10 Virtual Negotiation Tips - Mark Schenkius

Daily Sales Tips

04:42 min | 5 months ago

571: 10 Virtual Negotiation Tips - Mark Schenkius

"You're listening to the daily sales tips podcast I'm your host Scott Ingram today Marc Shanke ss back. Usually you get just one tip a day but mark is an overachiever and he's got ten tips for you. Mark is the founder of Roi ten where he helped sales professionals get better at dealing with buyers and he's also the author of the other side of sales where he shares his perspective after fifteen years in procurement. Here he is. In the current environment, our lives have become more and more digital whether we like it or not. is also means buying a setting become more digital and definitely has some implications. To help you with this I'll share my top ten tips today that will improve the outcome of your virtual negotiations. Dip One. Choose your medium wisely. What are you're using e mail whatsapp phone feeder conference, or meeting face to face make sure you decide thoughtfully about two medium to use the all have pros and cons whether it's brought to the other person Richards of the conversation such body language. Or data management and time spent travelling they all have an impact on the outcome. Depth to. Focus on building trust people don't buy from people they don't trust. And building trust in a virtual environment is harder than when you're meeting face to face. So remember you to put an even more effort than you used to. Tip Three. Schmooze. Before. To. Meeting. One way of building trust is to schmooze before you go into the details of the negotiation. Talk about family the challenges of working from home or other non negotiation related topics as a way to build openness entrust this will improve the likelihood of getting to a deal. Tip for brief personal disclosure improves the outcome. Another way of building trust is to share something personal perhaps an anecdote about yourself or someone in your family. By sharing something personal you automatically make a deeper connection with the other person. It's almost as if you're saying I trust you by sharing something personal. So now you can trust me as well. That five discuss how to run the negotiation process as part of the trust building process. It's also important to provide clarity. By sharing joint agenda and agreeing on the steps into process you show that you have nothing to hide. You Build Trust as a consequence dip six. Don't rush her opening offer. During didn't go. Trainings, I provide would always advise people to put our opening offer on the table I. Since acts as an anchor for the other party this also applies in a virtual environment. However, in this case, it would recommend not to rush this step as it might reduce the level of trust between the both of you. Dip Seven Take a break and summarize. Like, it face to face negotiations. It's okay to take a break from the meeting, gather your thoughts or to align internally. When you do so make sure you summarize to emphasize the common. Ground Sioux chief together. Tip Eight agree what has been agreed? At the end of the meeting agree what has been agreed preferrably in writing. In a video conference, why don't you share your screen with the type of minutes Nemo as soon as all parties agree you hit the send button this avoids painful discussions afterwards. Tip Nine gift the other person of coal before you send the Nemo. Where you have conducted a virtual negotiation and you intent on sending a confirmation email at a later stage, be sure to make a phone call to the recipients prior to sending the email. Research has shown that doing this improves the chances of the recipients receiving the IMO positively. Tip Ten. Emails are often not read like they are intended. Linked to the previous tip keep in mind that there is no body language or tone of voice in an email message. So it's hard to read between the lines. Even, if you have to best intentions, the other party might not perceive it that way. There, you go my top ten tips for making virtual negotiations successful as always I welcome your thoughts, Epi negotiations everyone for more about mark in his book. The other side of sales click over to daily sales dot tips forward slash five, seventy one and we'll have everything for you there including a transcript of today's tip. Once you've done that be sure to come back tomorrow for another great sales tip. Thanks for listening.

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