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Where in the world is our defence force?

RNZ: The Detail

20:11 min | 1 year ago

Where in the world is our defence force?

"Kilda Alex Ashton and this is the detail. Traveling for work. Sounds sounds great. But if you're part of the defence force you're not exactly going to be landing at the world's terrorism hotspots long after the conflicts New Zealand's been involved in then he left the headlines. We'll still have people stationed in war zones. Today we're in the world is New Zealand's Defence Force. Is it scary being more scary than being in promised to know right now there are about two hundred. Fifty Defence Force personnel deployed overseas at any one time that number can double there are forty five personnel at Camp Taji Iraq in Florida. The is the sole author set working on diplomatic duties. There are nearly thirty. Kiwis working hang on the Egyptian coastline and over the summer. We seem to couple of hundred to help out on the Antarctic ice. How many different countries is the defense force in many? Would you like me to listen. That's Rear Admiral. Jim Gilmore the commander Joint Forces New Zealand. Free think about New Zealand's interests being satisfied Agassi's they come in many forms whether it say a large commitment in support of defeat Defeat in Iraq New Zealand ceiling troops to Iraq in twenty fifteen since then trained around forty four thousand local security forces the support elements that correct around that if it whether they like acted in Qatar. We have people there or the logistics hub in Dubai. Roy That could be there or whether it's about security and maritime mine in the Middle East throughout people who are in Bahrain where it's if it's And support you in missions. We have people in South Sudan Forces had people helping the U in Israel and Lebanon since the fifties we are. You're in the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt as part of a thirteen country peacekeeping and will heed the Assad. There's a few still scattered and Afghanistan. And we're on on the Korean Peninsula monitoring the demilitarized zone between North and south. And and you think well you must be finishing at some point but I would also say that at this time during the Austral snow season. We're involved down in Antarctica as part of New Zealand's commitment down there in support a valid Scott. How long do people normally seem to at the C.? Four well it depends on mission typically the sins in Iraq or in Israel Six months missions from the time you leave New Zealand so it's getting probably a break in the middle you'll be away from your family and loved ones for about six months. And who makes the coolest who goes where before we start thinking about who goes. We're of course he's going to be neat to understand what the skill sets are required and and and that's a fairly fairly straightforward prices. WHO's trying to for the right mission and and walk What what leave Cartier are they? Are They well-supported guy. But but when it comes to the mission itself some that have been quite linked longstanding so your support to the truth Support Organization for the win in Israel. It's been gone for quite some time. What we basically do here is the patrol we observe and report anything that could lead to a violation? Ah upset the peace between the surrounding countries and likewise emmy for on a sign on Peninsula. We've been there since ninety two so Thought fairly well established I missions when it comes to new initiatives for the deployment of New Zealand Defence Fools nine missions could come one or two ice. That are listening tonight. I want one Directly from Cabinet from government decides that They wish for the defense moves to be involved in mission. So we'll get direct to. It's only what kind of support we could provide Wake up options it'll then get approved And we deploy alternatively one of outputs government uh is advice that out headquarters Joint Forces New Zealand. We have a group that looks at feature planning. And wh what we'll do is we'll wake up a series of Ken. Can we options. That's basically can the defense force. The student range of things wants are available. That will come into the city and Ministry of Defence and Defence for Strategic Commitments Group. Who that wake up should we? So that's advise the government about well. We can do these things we should we. Should we not and obviously the will we decision. We'll be for cabinet. Forgotten then also relate once it's designed the requirements around that mission will be established And we prepare forces And integrate men. We need to pull them. My name is lieutenant colonel. Tim Woman I am the senior national officer and the chief plans offset for the military force of observers and we're based in Chaman check in the Sinai. We did you get there arrived on the second of May and I'll be here so may next year. I am the Senior National Officer of a small Kiwi detachment We have sadie one personnel. Here at the moment and we Do a variety of jobs in the the miniature forced to them service anything From my team wishes the plans office we also have the actual new come on to the Organization is taking over on Sunday. That say Kiwi. Come on this going to be Major General Wins and he's going to be acid- Kiwi Hughes commanded the whole of the MFA since its conception in Nineteen ninety-two. Dice transition of command of the Multinational National Force and observers saw. No I from my General Sonic Stewart. Might think Egypt and Israel for endorsing me having the faith and trust in me to the commander of the and of course emanate privileged that New Zealand nominated and day-to-day. What sort of things etling? I can't semi might see Is this up into a training team. Say They are responsible for ensuring that the training of the whole minute she force observe as as some current an up-to-date. This can be anything from practicing. Our shooting skills to reacting to situations Team is broken into two pots one on his Military skills and the second which is very important over he's driving instruction Because the roads aren't quite like they are in New Zealand and the science that we all say a small detachment wings which works in an organization called the fourth engineer's office. And they're responsible for the day today Running the chemistry of a here New Designs rebuilds and looking off to the maintenance of the force which is split between the North camp which is About two hours flight north of here and South Camera. I'm at the moment and in between that is six remote sites With our troops over time you're cutting out the observer mission the South Camp. What's it like the actual living situation of where you are describe it compared to other operations? It's comfortable it's functional But it's Nearing the end of its is life so one of the plans. I'm like she waking on at the moment with the force engineers offices a five year rebuild plan but it has everything you want He. Ah We're right on the seafront We have a private beach which she don't get many operations. We have a very large Shop that kind of uh-huh fulfils the needs of all troops and the other eight hundred people living here we have a very good dining facility And of course for the Kiwi's we have a very good gym. But I thought an indoor the other eight hundred local other foreigners nine I we all parts of their thirteen different different countries He provide troops for this mission. America having the biggest number approximately four hundred and fifty We have a friend Smith strata with this Canadians Colombians Czech Czech Republic Friends from Fiji that has One hundred and seventy people France Italy Norway UK and Uruguay Gua and the newest members. We've got. We've got two recent editions of two offices from Japan do you encounter many locals. Yes In order to make this organization work we actually have Five hundred local civilians We always say soon as we got out the front gate. You are missed and the local population and quite a few the Civilians we worked for everyday like they wake in the kitchens nations. They got things like electricity in some of the builders so we did quite a lot of interaction with them every day and broadly speaking. How's the attitude of the towards imprison? Say It's actually very interesting because The New Zealand is being here since The twenty fifth of Eight WPRO ninety nine hundred to say the first deployment was actually on Anzac. Day of the Fest keys came out here And because we've been here all the time and it's quite Often you know agree to buy one of the Lakers with Q.. Or how you today. Yeah that must make you feel like yeah. It's But yes. Do you enjoy living being stationed there. this is An interesting deployment because we're actually fulfilling A mission because the MFA FA came out for the Cape. David Accords Camp David Accords in nineteen seventy eight and they all came about see stop their series series of wars that happened between Israel and Egypt and since the formation of the NFL. Although there's been times when they haven't being being Best Friends The organization has stopped any further wars and the cushion. That you actually knew you'll doing a good mission the Kyrie's a part of that mission and we are keeping the peace out here you say much of your day to day stuff is kind of split between training and practicing thing skills and also reacting to situations. How often do things happen? That you need to jump on things that people would think his conflicts probably the wrong word but shots dramatic situations that you have to jump on. I can't say the way that we did the MRI the main mission is done. Is there Twenty six American civilians who she kinda out the deserve and verify and report potential violations to the treaty and and our job is to keep these people safe so they're able to do that mission now. The other complication To this mission is in North Sinai there's an insurgency going on against the Egyptian government partly by Splinter groups as of is Sinai Sinai and they having a ongoing fights fights with the Egyptian forces. So if you're stationed up in North Camp It is Can Get quite Harry is is it. I can't think of another word has scary being Most scary than being in promised to north. My family actually lives in promised northland wife that she Also in the military and she's a major with the first battalion of the Royal New Zealand Immature Regiment. I actually been in the minute. She gave a forty okay. So I've done quite a few Deployments and I think it's more taxing For my wife Is for me in what way. Well it's just the the Absence Things that We usually do a team She's not having still by yourself off two teenage sons which never easy when the parents of that Just just being away from home and for the sake of contrast entrust late sleep the Sinai peninsula somewhere a little more brisk and talk to Cup Defense Force staff help out with environmental protection and Scientifique exploration at Scott Base Major Injury Thornton on the scene initial also for in New Zealand Operating a four defense course under oppression DOT com. And you you beckon Christ you now but when we lost Antarctica. And how often do you go in talk to her about a week and a half ago was my role or triple down there. That twice a year during the summer Initially during the opening part of the season in late October and then again down in January to absorb the second half of the season. What's it like over there When you arrive in top The the initial response seal unique Very vast open playing country or continent There are no trees. It's very white. It's very blue and I suppose the vast absence of anything what we would call his Komo Grain New Zealand does does hit hard And it does make such a unique experience down the then defence forces operation of their how does title function Full Threw me were closely the New Zealand and the United States in program and they went through I programme for the joint just We've between both in topic programs. They pull resources and annually they. They provide a request to the New Zealand defeatable for us to support and enhance That just exposed to bitter enable and support we'll cross Research Senator Thompson so it would be different than some of the other defense fools postings definitely the main TNT in the mind drive will US individuals who support gun is to support in top and and we'll cross leading science and its research on if it's Dan in Antarctica My name through the position of those Lots of success with our air force aircraft And personal scope vice in station. Yeah Logistics speaking of logistics and age. And you need a lot of supplies Broughton. Because he's not going to be a lot of corner stores in Antarctica Nar. It's one of the unique environment with you If you needed nothing both in. It's nothing to wait outside. You can't stop around the corner to the banning so the logistics logistics process is very well controlled and managed by by talking and the topic program and then using a defensible aids and promoting as I mentioned aircraft To Ed into this bridge between Cross stitch in Antarctica but we also support the annual resupply which is done by ship which draws into Mido once a year and Al Team With team even those unloaded the container ship We provide drivers. We've been moved the containers McMurdo Station ice and we have Supply missions which the unloaded and Van Alderson. China's prompted him being reloaded as retuned contract back to you and the majority of stock type type the opportunity to get out and about around wrestling with the based and they get to see some amazing sorts and things and what about the history of Antarctica and the expeditions. Going many many ways to get out and about. How do they do that? Because I'm imagining it's not warm. MM-HMM the temperatures Ryan Show In the early part of the season the temperatures from about modest duties even Through to the middle of January can get eating up to with that modest two months three And and in this big it does seem feel colder. The equipment that's provided to the topic is State of the out in in insurance it. I've seen remind woman comfortable times But there's a variety of walking tricks In regression to this team can do around scope base McMurdo Station Just to kind of morale and wealthy Jim Gilmore in what way very successful and doing is identifying whereas mice appropriate to intern partnerships rather than Dinah recipient relationships. The reason I bring that up and And I do when we talk about these kind of things Is Is it so important when trying to Collectively actively engineer bill situation for those that we would seek. The help is to have those like. We're helping fully feel like part of a pattern of rather than some kind kind of gradient without being too north. Everyone agrees with me. But it's the it's the line on 'cause risen that's when people are sent over over there do they normally know how long they're going to be there for and I will be able to tell the family they'll be back I've been involved with IB IB background Being say when you've got a preset time that you'd be returning to harm And sometimes plans giant and it's important that when and if they the people that this fixed the mice are informed straightaway found when When leading kind of people particularly if they have if engaged in hot arduous work I know it's a lot easier to engage in that kind of activity if you know when it's GonNa Finish but sometimes deployments main spending Christmas away from the family. So what does the Defense Force Christmas in the Sinai Peninsula. Look like we've got a couple of plans the RSA sending us some wealth postles out organizing Secret Sensor on Christmas morning and evening all welfare boxes because we're on the C- Where organizing A trip for the day so we'd be able to be They might be able to be with their family members. But that'd be able to be with that New Family that they have out here and then on boxing day. We are reenacting doing the boxing day test and we have a cricket game against all Australian friends. That's the detail for today. I'm Alex Ashton mm-hmm the detail is brought to you by newsroom. Dot Co dot. He'd made possible by the RN. Zied Indoneia Innovation Fund the subscribe button to stay across the the detail every day. This episode was engineered by Adrian. Holy and produced by Alexia Russell cocky on.

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Tue. 12/29 - How Humans Began to Read and Write

Kottke Ride Home

15:58 min | 3 weeks ago

Tue. 12/29 - How Humans Began to Read and Write

"Welcome to the key right. Holding tuesday december. Twenty ninth two thousand twenty. I'm jackson bird. How is it that humans figured out how to read new cosmological findings that may finally solve the hubble tension and more monoliths continue to pop up a look at two of the more interesting ones from this past week. Here are some of the cool things from the news today. We often point to the usage of tools as not uniquely human but certainly a sign of more advanced intelligence among animals. But something that is even more uniquely human is reading. That is the written word or picture views to communicates. Though as academic gnome debare burien pointed out to nature thread about how we define and redefine concepts earlier this year. Quote words are tools. We use them for jobs. We forget in our technological age that language is a technology. A tool and quotes. So how did we develop these tools and evolve to use them. That is obviously a much bigger question than a fifteen minute. Podcast can answer but researcher. Lydia wilson dug into the history and neuroscience behind the question in a recent column on nautilus. And i wanted to share some of her more intriguing insights versed plants out that while some human societies felt the need for more precise communication and documentation. Many were perfectly satisfied with traditional in pictures. Like cave art to pass down. Laws norms ceremonies and customs through the generations. Pretty much of the colonizers invaded the earliest records. We've found of writing that is using symbols with intent to communicate as opposed to just more. Broad pictures is from three thousand b c e in mesopotamia the finding was of clay tablets recording incoming and outgoing amounts of flour and grain as irving finkel from the british museum. Points out quote. It's very probable that it was a kind of administrative responsibility which produced the first stumbling attempt at writing and then eventually a proper fluent script and quotes. It was ruling classes with taxes and the distribution of goods. That seem to have precipitated. The need for some kind of written notes. As opposed to hunter gatherer societies who mostly sustain themselves collectively in bartered for goods with others. What finkel calls. The giant leap of mankind was when humans went from using pictures as literal pictures and started using them as sounds that is expressing words or concepts. That don't have a tangible picture. That can go with them. And so substituting words that sound the same for example a drawing of a bumblebee and a drawing of a leaf can be combined to illustrate the word belief. Every ancient writing system around the world appears to have found the same solution for written expression but while some stuck with this method and innovated on it with classified as like modern day chinese others eventually developed alphabets beginning in the sinai peninsula thousand years ago and then spreading to many parts of europe asia and the rest of africa. But how do our brains make sense of the letters and characters neurologist. Thomas hope senior research associate at university. College london describes the process as quote a bunch of potentially redundant streams and quoting further from nautilus for reading. There are two large tributaries. Broadly correlated with sound and the third major area working on the task is the brokers area in charge of executive function which acts as the conductor orchestrating all the inputs beginning readers. Sound down each letter to get the meaning. Reading is not just to communicate meaning but also to communicate generally hope says and the most common way that we communicate is by speaking so when you read a word some part of your brain is sounding out what that word would sound like if you were saying it or if someone was saying it to you and then act of speech. Communication is the same across cultures. Whatever the written form of the language so most readers will be hearing as they read but sound is all who says you can't learn to read just by learning the letters you have to learn to understand and recognize the words to readers in an alphabetic system have to learn the equivalent of characters learning. The shape of a word is basically the same job as extracting the meaning from a pictographic character. But once we get more fluent at reading tend to use a different tributary more another way that most skilled readers prefer is to recognize the whole word as a single entity and connected directly to meaning hope says and quotes tae told me of university college. London has conducted a number of experiments using brain scans of people reading specifically comparing people reading in chinese characters and in a phonetic system like english so a script where you comprehend meaning by recognizing a character verses by using the sound of letters and what she found. Is that the parts of the brain. We use for those tasks the tributaries is hope described. Them are different but not so much because of the type of script were trying to read rather because how were taught to read them told me and her team discovered this by studying dyslexic readers whose brains lit up in all tributaries no matter which form of script they were reading because their brains were trying to account for what they were having trouble comprehending the researchers wondered whether further findings in this direction could eventually influence how we teach reading. Might we find better ways to help out dyslexic people or later learners. What depths of creativity might we tap if we teach phonetic readers to learn word shapes and pictographs readers to chant. Words allowed more likely some much more complex solution wilson. The article's author even go so far as to postulate how kids raised on emojis might be activating different parts of their brain in their meaning making of language and wonders how that could change the way we communicate going forward and sounds fairly far fetched but she reminds us that humans have really only been reading for five thousand years. And that's quote a blink of an eye in of luminary terms and quotes. So who knows what could still change. The new year is upon us and no matter what it brings you can spend it creating something meaningful with. Today's sponsor. Skill share skill share is an online learning community that empowers you to accomplish real growth with tons of classes to explore real projects to create and the support. The fellow creative class topics include video mation web development music photography creative writing productivity marketing. And so much more. I recently started a class that i've heard everyone. 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The european space agency is a spacecraft is the gift that keeps on giving telescopes latest is measuring the parallel axes of over a billion stars. Paradoxes are tiny shifts in star's apparent positions which reveal their distances and the ones measured by guy are quoting astrophysicist. Joe bovi by far the most accurate and precise distance determinations and quotes now apart from just being cruel. Why is this important because included in the one point. Three billion star measurements are some special stars whose distances can be used to calculate farther cosmological distances. Meaning some big questions have been thrust into new more accurate lights namely the hubble tension the hubble tension refers to the expansion of the universe and these statistically significant discrepancies between calculations and measurements quoting quantum magazine. The cosmos is known ingredients and governing equations. Predict that it should currently be expanding at a rate of sixty seven kilometers per second per mega carsick meaning that we should see galaxies flying away from us sixty seven kilometers per second faster for each additional mega of distance yet actual measurements consistently overshoot. The mark galaxies receding too quickly. The discrepancy thrillingly suggests that some unknown quickening agent may be a foot in the cosmos and quotes. So what's going on well to make headway on figuring it out. Scientists have needed to reduce potential sources of error in the measurements especially when it comes to the distance to nearby stars. And thanks to guy. Oh we now have a ton of new exceptionally more. Accurate measurements to work with and astrophysicists are stoked papers are being turned out with new calculations at top speed. The how do these calculations work quoting again in broad strokes. The way to gauge cosmic expansion is to figure out how far away distant galaxies are. And how fast they're receding from us. The speed measurements are straightforward. Distances are hard. The most precise measurements rely on intricate cosmic distance ladders. The first wrung consists of standard candle stars in and around our own galaxy. That have well-defined luminosity. He's in which close enough to exhibit para lacks the only sure way to tell how far away things are without traveling there. Astronomers then compare the brightness of these standard candles with that of fainter ones in nearby galaxies to deduce their distances. That's the second rung of the ladder knowing the distances of these galaxies which are chosen because they contain rare bright stellar explosions called type one. A supernova allows cosmologists to gauge the relative distances of farther away galaxies that contain fainter type one a supernova 's the ratio of these far away galaxies speeds to their distances gives the cosmic rate and quote so the precision of the tax being that i rung of the ladder is of utmost importance and can change the whole calculation. If it's off and that is why astronomers are so stoked about this new data it really could hold the key to understanding the question of the hubble attention that they've been trying to crack for years ending today with a few monolith developments. Es the monoliths are still popping up everywhere no no one thinks any of them have anything to do with the original. It's basically just become the latest trend to construct a monolith where every feel like at this point but reason ones caught my eye. I over the weekend. Jason shared on cocky dot org. The there's one in driving distance of his home in vermont. It's eighteen hundred feet up a mountain in pittsfield overlooking riverside farm. This monolith is eight feet tall and definitely meant to look like the original. Although as intrepid reporter catherine huntley from wc x. pointed out when she went to investigate there are seems evident on each side. Something lacking in the original monolith which added to part of its otherworldly mystique riverside farm general manager. Peter gordon said quote. I don't know who put it up there. There are no footprints. There are no burn marks from the ship. There's just no way to know how it got there. He also added that his initial reaction was come on who went to this much trouble and quotes adding to the mystery. The monolith disappeared within a couple of days of its appearance but within returned on christmas eve. So who knows what's going on there or how long it will last but if you're in the vicinity the uphill hike to see. It is apparently nice and safe if fairly challenging one. Whether or not you find a monolith at the end but as far as immoral christmasy monoliths go. Bonnie on twitter alerted me to a gingerbread monolith. that was briefly erected in san francisco. This one was almost feet. Tall placed on top of a hill in corona heights park and yes made entirely of gingerbread eight squares. Were stacked on top of each other on each of the three sides held together by some very strong icing and decorated with a few gumdrops to resemble the screws. Fill ginsburg the head of san francisco's. Recreation and parks department responded in good spirits to the unauthorized installation telling the local news that the chosen location quote looks like a great spot to get baked and that the city won't be removing the monolith quotes until the cookie crumbles blunt with a bit of light rain in some passersby taking out of the structure. The monolith had fallen by saturday and is sadly no longer with us. I'm not sure how long this trend can keep up. But i also don't think i'm quite sick of it yet like when it's done in fairly good taste and brings a bit of joy to locals or a few more safely distance to visitors to trails and towns that might need a tourism boost. Why not that. is it ford today. As always this show was produced by ride home media and khadki dot org. I jefferson bird. And i've got to go figure out what to do with all this gingerbread. I've found on a hill in san francisco. I hope you are all having a great day. And i will talk to you again tomorrow.

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161  15 (Plus 105) Miles on the Suez Canal

Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

37:53 min | 5 months ago

161 15 (Plus 105) Miles on the Suez Canal

"Hello and welcome to misinformation. Trivia podcasts for ladies and gents love, Cool Trivia, and sticking it to anoint teams pop quiz where your host I'm Lauren and I'm Julia. Hey y'all. Hi, how you feel in? How are things? You know how beautiful spate of weather that we're having ball beautiful family. Recording much earlier in the year then you're listening to this but. Yeah, we can finally like go outside and there's plants and. Yeah not all at once. It's very nice this this will sound insane to you. Our listeners at the end of August when this is this is recording but in this moment in the past, it is a novelty that there is so much niceness outside so. There is a blessing right there. Yes but. I'm excited because you have a topic today I know very little about perfect. That's that's my goal here on this very podcast is to share information topics about which. People know very little. Done see that's our. That's our mission seed. Original Tagline, but it was too hard to remember all of the conjunctions. That's I would say that's our mission and our vision statements museum speak so. Great. About it so I feel like this has come up on the League a few times and. In pretty much any other trivia instance in which it has come up not many people on my team have. Known this how I feel I feel like they're being thrown in my. Particular it. Just in general. You know I, like I feel like people forgot to learn about this as all. Yeah. That's true. But I feel personally attacked just want that the record to show. Today's episode is called fifteen plus one, hundred, five miles on the Suez Canal. That's very. Proud of that one a very, very proud of you for that one. That's very good. So right off the Bat I'm GonNa, tell you where the Suez Canal is. Yes. Thank you. I feel like canal. Wise. We're all very familiar with the Erie Canal if only. The song yeah and. The Panama. Canal sure we know the Panama Canal Greatly Teddy Roosevelt. This one though is is a big one and they feel like. A lot about it right now. So No. The Suez Canal is a man made waterway connecting the Mediterranean Sea to the Indian Ocean via the Red Sea. It enables a more direct route for shipping between Europe and Asia basically allowing for passage from the North Atlantic to the Indian Ocean without having to circumnavigate the African continent. Oh. Yeah. That's a long way. That's a long way we've talked about explorers before we've talked about it with Capes we talked about a sailing, all kinds of this way shortcut This is also often considered to define the border between Africa and Asia, and again it provides the shortest maritime routes between Europe and the lands lying around the Indian and Western Pacific Oceans. So this waterways vital international trade and it is one of the world's most heavily used shipping lanes and because of that, it has been at the center of much conflict since it opened to the public in eighteen, sixty nine. So while the Suez Canal stretches for about one hundred, twenty miles from Port Saieed on the Mediterranean Sea in Egypt south to the city of Suez Egypt, which is located on the northern shores of the Gulf of Suez. Canal separates the bulk of Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. It took ten years to build was officially opened in November eighteen, sixty nine and the waterways owned and operated by the Suez Canal Authority its use is intended to be open to ships of all countries whether for purposes of trading commerce, travel or war. So. Let's talk about how the canal gop built. Yes. There was an interest in a marine route connecting the Mediterranean Sea in the Red Sea dating back all the way to ancient times There were a series of small canals connecting the Nile. River to the Red Sea, as early as two thousand B C E. But they didn't you know last run. And so we're fast forwarding. We're eighteenth century now after conquering Egypt in seventeen, Ninety, eight French military commander Napoleon Bonaparte sent a team of surveyors to investigate the feasibility of cutting the isthmus of Suez and Bill Lincoln Canal from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean. But after there were four separate excursions to the region, his scouts actually incorrectly concluded that the Red Sea was about thirty feet higher than the Mediterranean. So they warned that any attempt to create canal. In catastrophic flooding across the Nile Delta. So yeah, they're like. Since it's thirty higher, it's really going to be impossible to make direct route that way it'd be really expensive with we would have to do a lot of stuff with the land. There would have to be a lot of at that point. I don't know if that how many like locks and dams they had in place in the world today, but eventually, you would have to create something like that. So. The Surveyor's faulty calculations are basically enough to scare Napoleon away from pursuing this project and plans for canal stalled until eighteen, forty seven when Cheema researchers actually confirmed. That they were wrong. There was no serious difference in the altitude between the Mediterranean and the Red seas like. Lane numbers, your numbers off moved a decimal point over you know. So. It actually was in reality easier and they definitely could have built it then because they got those calculations wrong yup. See. Math is so important. And I say this as someone who does not study or is good at math but there are people out there who are so easily recognized that absolutely. Absolutely. Yep. So here at misinformation are supportive of math. Not to speak for all of us but I our your I'll prove that a message. Great. Perfect. So French explorer and engineer linnel develop foam. He surveyed this missive Suez and again confirmed that the Mediterranean and Red seas were contrary to that belief actually at the same level of altitude. So. This meant that without locks could be built making construction significantly easier. In eighteen, fifty, four French. FERNANDINA SEP was granted permission to create a company to construct a canal. So less ups. First Action was to create the commission internist and I'll pull a pair of small totally small STA sue is. The International Commission for the piercing of the Isthmus of Suez. This commission is. Very very, literal zoo, peercy you. So. He's commissioned was made up of thirteen experts from seven different countries and at the time many British statesmen considered its construction, a French political scheme designed to undermine the British dominance of global shipping. So the Brits were very suspicious of this French commission. But. Their final report was completed in eighteen, fifty six, and the pilot study estimated that a total of two point six, billion cubic feet of earth would have to be moved including six, hundred, million feet of earth on land and another two point one billion feet dredged from water. So so even though this is like, oh, look at this. It's so easy like man Napoleon was dumb now they're like, oh, we actually have to dig it. It's not like. I've always imagining like way you're a kid and you're you're building sand castles and you build like a little lake or moat or whatever, and then you're like. I'm going to create river, and then all you do is just create a with your hand. Your hand. That's what I imagined like you just take like a bunch of guys with shovels and just start digging and it flows in. Obviously. Wasn't on this commission, right? Maybe they would have been able to do this faster I don't know. Don't listen to me Guiseley ever original cost estimate was about two hundred, million francs in the year. Eighteen fifty six. So as I was those a lot of money. Cheers later, the Suez Canal company was formally established and it was given a ninety nine year lease over the waterway and surrounding area. So construction began at the northernmost point sayid end of the canal in early eighteen, fifty, nine in February eighteen sixty, the new. York. Times called this project quote an enterprise designed to be of such incalculable benefit to the civilized world so they recognize early on like this is this is a huge deal. Yeah. The excavation work ended up taking ten years with an estimated one point five million people working on the project. The Egyptian government initially supplied most of the Labor by forcing the poor to work for nominal pay. No. And under the threat of violence. Beginning in eighteen sixty, one tens of thousands of peasants, used picks and shovels to dig the early portions of the canal by hand progress was painfully slow and the project hit a snag after Egyptian Roller Ismael. Pasha abruptly banned the use of forced labor in eighteen, sixty three. So he's like, all right. We we're GONNA pay them. Like. You can't just like. One of guys it. Leader and the company was like, well, how are we going to pay for this? So? It is believed that tens of thousands of workers died while working on this for cholera and other. Terrible 'cause or Diseases, you name it. So, faced with a critical shortage of workers and the Suez Canal. Company changed their strategy and they began using several hundred custom made steam coal, powered shovels, and dredges to dig the canal. So that's better than. Two P by hand yeah. People. Getting, not paid digging by hand to this new technology, gave the project to boost it needed and the company went on to make progress during the last two years of construction. So. About three fourths of all of the sand that was eventually move during construction of the main canal was eventually hindered by heavy machinery rather than by by person. Political turmoil in the region also negatively impacted the construction of the canal. So this time. Egypt was ruled by Britain and France, and there were several rebellions happening against colonial role. So along with the limitations of construction technology at the time, this caused the total cost of building the canal to balloon to at this point about one hundred, million dollars, which is more than double the original estimate. SIDEBAR. As this who is near completion in eighteen sixty nine French sculptor Frederick Goose Bortoli tried to convince. Fernando Sep and the Egyptian government to let him build a sculpture called Egypt bringing light to Asia at its Mediterranean entrance. This was to be inspired by the ancient colossus of roads and berthold envisioned in ninety foot tall statue of a woman clothed in Egyptian peasant robes holding a massive torch that would also serve as a lighthouse to guide ships into the Canal Huh. That sounds familiar. So, this project never materialized, but Bartoli continued shopping around the idea for his statue in eighteen sixty finally unveiled a completed version in New York harbor. Hey, officially called liberty enlightening the world. The monument has since become better known as the Statue of Liberty. So so so we got the sloppy second of the Suez. Canal project is what you're telling me isn't that interesting? That is interesting. Yes. So instead at that point, the they built the Port Said Lighthouse that was built instead by Francois Coney in eighteen, sixty nine. So The Suez Canal does not take the shortest route across the isthmus. The shortest route would be about seventy five miles or one, hundred, twenty, one kilometers instead, it utilizes several lakes. So from north to south, there's like Manzullo Lake Tim saw in the bitter lakes, the Suez Canal is an open cut without locks. There are some extensive straight lengths of the canal and there are eight. Major. Benz of it. To the west of the canal is the low lying delta of the Nile River into the East is the higher rugged arid Sinai peninsula. So Ishmael Pasha the Cadet of Egypt and the Sudan formally opened the Suez Canal on November seventeenth eighteen, sixty nine the completion was a cause for considerable celebration. In Ports Ed the extravaganza begin with fireworks and a ball attended by six thousand people including many heads of state including Empress Eugenie, the emperor of Austria, the Prince of Wales, the Prince of Prussia and the Prince of the Netherlands. So this was a major then. So, after the canals opened officially, the first ship to navigate through the canal was the imperial yacht of French Empress Eugenie. It was called Legua which is Eagle in then it was followed by the British Ocean Liner Delta. So we had a friendship go through and then a British ocean liner go through. Okay on officially. The British navy ship was actually technically the first enter the waterway with its captain having navigated it to the front of the line under the cover of darkness the night before the ceremonial opening like you know what word Do it. So like Britain was already like kind of mad and suspicious and everything of France before all this and so this way they made sure to the Captain George was officially reprimanded for the deed, but secretly loud by the British government for his efforts in promoting the country's interests in the region. Like like publicly, they were like This guy. I'm GonNa need your gun on your badge at my desk and then behind closed doors overland high fives like. So only steamships were able to use the canal at first because sailing vessels still had difficulty navigating the narrow channel in the regions tricky winds. Traffic was less than expected during the first two years of operation but the water, we had a huge impact on world trade and played a key role in the colonization of Africa by European powers. Yes, that's true. The, owners of the Suez still experienced financial troubles and Ishmael Pasha and others were forced to sell their stock shares to Great Britain in eighteen seventy five. France remained the majority shareholder in the canal. and. So by the way, the original canal didn't permit two-way traffic ships will stop in a passing bay to allow the passage of ships in the other direction and around that time transit time for to go the whole hundred, twenty miles was about forty hours. Still. Less than having to circumnavigate all of alka absolutely. But keep that in mind it's about four hours at that point. So in eighteen eighty, eight, the convention of Constantinople. Decreed that the Suez Canal would operate as a neutral zone under the protection of the British who had by then assumed control of the surrounding region including Egypt and Sudan The British also famously defended the canal from attack by the Ottoman Empire in one thousand, nine fifteen during world. War. One. Thousand Nine, hundred, eighty, six the Anglo Egyptian treaty reaffirmed Britain's control over the waterway which became vital during World War Two when access powers of Italy and Germany attempted to capture it. By nineteen thirty nine transit time had been reduced from forty hours to thirteen hours. Wow. Oh my gosh. Oh, they had adopted a system of convoys also consisting of one northbound and two southbound per day. So they figured out like well, you don't have to like go a little bit and then pull over to the side and let someone through and go a little bit and pullover instead it was kind of being scheduled like, okay. We're sending all these ships one way, and then it's your turn. I say okay. And So it's World War Two despite the supposed neutral status of the canal ships were prohibited from accessing it for much of the war. Sorry. And after the annual to in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, one Egypt withdrew from the Anglo Egyptian treaty. So, here's where a big event happens. It's called the Suez crisis. It's a crisis on. I'm ready. Following years of negotiation, the British withdrew their troops from the Suez Canal in Nineteen, fifty-six effectively handing control over to the Egyptian government who were now under the leadership of President, Gamal Abdel, Nasser. So Nassar, quickly moved to nationalize the canals operations and did so by transferring ownership to the Suez. Canal Authority, which at that point was a quasi government agency in July nineteen fifty-six Nassar's decision was considered rash though it's important to remember that the canal concession was imminent since according to the original contract signed in eighteen fifty six, Egypt would take over its operation completely in the nineteen sixties anyway. So this nationalization of the canal was supposedly to help fund a dam across the now river. Egypt was supported by Soviet arms and money, and also Egypt right now was mad at the United States because apparently the United States had promised them like Oh yeah. We'll give you some money to construct a big dam on the river like we got you guys. But apparently the the the US never happened off of that. Sure. So. Egypt. There they're mad at everybody. That was I nearly and they're mad at the US for. Romney's they like the Soviets because the Soviets are giving them money and weapons So Nassar argued that tolls from the ships passing through the. Canal. For The eventual construction of the Aswan High Dam on the Nile River so, the British people they're mad. They're mad at this move and they sought the support of the French and neighboring Israel in an armed assault to retake the canal. So what became known as the Suez crisis began on October twenty ninth nineteen fifty-six when Israeli. Armed Forces pushed into Egypt toward the Suez Canal. His rallies were soon joined by the French and British forces who landed at port side and Portwood and took control of the around the Suez Canal Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev railed against the invasion threatened to rain down nuclear missiles on. Western Europe. That if the Israeli french-british force didn't withdraw, so US President Dwight. Eisenhower's administration warned the Soviets reckless talk of nuclear conflict would only make matters worse in caution Khrushchev to refrain from direct intervention in the conflict. Eisenhower also issued stern warnings to the french-british in Israel used to give up their campaign and withdraw from Egyptian soil. So Eisenhower he's also mad at the British right now to. Nine keeping US informed about their intentions So the threaten all three nations with economic sanctions if they persisted in their attack. Fearing an escalation in the conflict Canadian secretary of State for external. Affairs Lester B. Pearson recommended the establishment of a United Nations peacekeeping force the first of its kind to protect the canal and ensure access to all. The UN ratified Pearson's proposal on November Fourth Nineteen fifty-six and although this company continued to operate the waterway, the UN force maintained access as well as peace in the nearby Sinai Peninsula Pearson won the Nobel Peace Prize nine, nineteen, fifty seven for organizing the United Nations Emergency Force to resolve the Suez Canal Crisis Nice side the way. Good for him in the end, Egypt, technically emerged victorious and the British French and Israeli governments withdrew their troops in late nineteen, fifty-six, early nine, hundred, Fifty, seven. This event was a pivotal event among Cold War superpowers Oh. Yeah. British. Prime Minister Anthony Eden resigned in the wake of the scandal and the Suez Canal was left under Egyptian control. So. That is nineteen, fifty, six, hundred, fifty, seven fast for about ten years later. We get to the six day. War. A series of water speech where the major spark for the Six Day War at the onset. Nassar. Ordered the UN peacekeeping forces out of the Sinai Peninsula. Israel immediately sent troops into the region and ultimately took control of the East Bank of the Suez Canal. Israeli ships to have access to the waterway. Nassar imposed a blockade on all maritime traffic. On June fifth nineteen, Sixty, seven, the Israeli Defense Forces initiated. Focus a coordinated aerial attack on Egypt and that morning about two hundred aircraft took off from Israel swooped. West over the Mediterranean converging on Egypt from the north after catching the Egyptians. By surprise, they assaulted eighteen different Egyptian airfields eliminating roughly ninety percent of the Egyptian airforce as it sat on the. Are you serious. Oh. My God. Yes. So then Israel expanded the range of its attack and decimated the air forces of Jordan Syria and Iraq as well. My God and in concert with the air strikes Israeli tanks and infantry stormed across the border into the Sinai peninsula and the Gaza Strip. Over. The next several days is really forces pursued the routed Egyptians across the cyanide inflicting severe casualties. There was a second front in the Six Day War that opened on June fifth when Jordan reacting to false reports of an Egyptian victory began shelling Israeli positions in Jerusalem. Israel responded with a devastating counterattack on east Jerusalem in the West Bank and the last phase of the fighting took place among Israel's northeastern border with Syria on June tenth nineteen, Sixty, seven, six days later, a u n brokered ceasefire took effect and the Six Day War came to an abrupt end. It was later estimated that about twenty thousand people of the Arabian Peninsula and eight hundred Israelis had died in just one hundred, thirty, two hours of fighting Oh my gosh, that's awful. It sounds awful exactly. So the leaders of the Arab. States were left shocked by the severity of their defeat and Egyptian president. Nasser even resigned in disgrace to promptly return to office after Egyptian citizens showed their support with massive demonstrations for him the sixty we're had huge geopolitical consequences in the Middle East fanning the flames of the Arab. Israeli. Conflict and still wounded by their defeat in the Six Day War Arab leaders met in Khartoum Sudan in August. Nineteen sixty seven signed a resolution that promised no peace no recognition and no to go she with Israel. So it's very tense over there. So. Starting on June fifth nineteen, sixty, seven running until June tenth nine, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, five. Eight years the Suez Canal was blocked by Egypt. It remains closed to international shipping until General Agreement was near. Wow. So idea. Yes. So by the way, fifteen cargo ships that had already entered the canal at the time of the blockades implementation remained trapped there in now for more than eight years. And these ships eventually earned the nickname, the yellow fleet for the desert sands that caked their decks. Oh my gosh. Yes. So I mean the the good news is it wasn't like the were stranded in there forever, and they died and most of the crew members were rotated on and off of their stranded vessels on three month assignments and the rest passed the time by forming their own floating communities in hosting sports and social events. But. They're basically are trapped in the canal with their with their ships and their cargo. My Gosh Also as the years passed their fleets, develop their own stamps and internal systems of trade but by the time, they were allowed to finally leave the canal in nineteen seventy five. Only two of these fifteen vessels were actually still seaworthy enough to make the voyage the rest of the way under their own power. Yeah I mean. They're just Kind of sitting there for eight years. Any ability to like. Fix them or? Do Upkeep and. wildcats while it's not. So US and British minesweepers eventually cleared the Suez Canal and made it once again, safe passage as a gesture of peace. The new Egyptian President Anwar Sadat reopened the Canal nineteen seventy five and he led a convoy of ships northbound to Portside The closure of the from sixty seven to seventy five led to the use of large tankers on the route around the Cape of Good Hope and prompted the development of the MED pipeline from the Suez to Alexandria. Which opened in nineteen seventy seven the increased size of oil tankers, the largest of which couldn't use the canal anyway and the development of sources of crude oil in areas outside of the canal route had actually reduced the canals importance in the international oil trade. So they wow I'd been getting a lot of money from well trading that was going through the thing and then people were like. Well, we gotta go the other way. Anyway let's make our ships bigger. So the so Egypt lot of money on that. Wow. And Israeli troops remain in the Sinai peninsula until nine, hundred, ninety one when as part of the Egypt Israel peace treaty of seventy-nine the so called multinational force and observers was stationed there to maintain order and protect the canal they remain in place to this day. So. Nowadays, today an average of fifty ships navigate the canal daily carrying more than three hundred, million tons of goods per year upon entering the canal at Port Ed or Port Suez. Ships are assessed for tonnage and cargo passengers have ridden without charge since nineteen fifty and the ships are actually handled by one or two pilots for actual Canal Transit. The major northbound cargoes consist of crude petroleum and Petroleum Products Coal Ores and metals and fabricated metals along with would oilseeds, cereals, and southbound traffic consists of cement fertilizers, fabricated metal cereals, and empty oil tankers. In, two thousand fourteen the Egyptian government oversaw eight billion dollar expansion project that widened the Suez from sixty one meters to three hundred twelve meters for a twenty, one mile distance, and this project took one year to complete, and as a result, the canal can accommodate ships to pass both directions simultaneously now. So. There you go. That's that's what you gotTa know about the Suez Canal it was. British and French at the beginning it runs through Egypt. It's one hundred twenty miles. There's been a couple of big conflicts that happened as a result, but it is the shortest distance between basically between Europe and Asia. Amazing I didn't know any of that. That was amazing. Thank you. Julie Welcome. Would have been helpful a couple of weeks ago four alerted Lee question but. It's Okay It's alright. was what nine fired you anyway yes. So. This quiz is called from sea to shining sea. It is a quiz on words that start then with the letter. C, it's it's like a crossword clues round a few will. So I'll spot you the number of letters in the word along with the definition and you give me the word. Great Ready I can do this question one. Six Letters. A week organic acid with the chemical formula c six, h eight. Oh, seven found naturally in Lemons and limes. Question to six letters a high quality brandy properly distilled in western. France. Question three fourteen letters having in extreme or irrational fear of confined places. Question for five letters relating to a city or town especially its administration. Question five ten letters to are more objects that share the same center or axis as seen in the target logo. Question six, five letters, a device or computer program, which encodes a data stream or signal for transmission or storage with a function that reverses the encoding for playback or editing. Question seven fourteen letters a feature quality belonging typically to a person place or thing, and serving to identify it. Question Eight, seven letters, pots, and other articles made from clay pardon by heat. Question nine thirteen letters relating to or characterized by the eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of its own kind. And question ten, eight letters involving or relating to treatment intended to restore or improve a person's appearance. I will give you about a minute to think about it and then we'll be back with your answers. Only I want to three, four, five, six. I. Okay. Here we go. Do. This. Do this, I do this. All right from see shining see a quiz on words that starting Ed with the letter. Sea. Island give you all the number of letters in the word along with the definition and you give me the word. Question One, six letters a week organic acid with the Chemical Formula C six, eight. Oh, seven found naturally in Lemons and limes. Citric. Yes. Yes. Check. Hoopoe. Question to six letters a high quality brandy properly distilled in western France. Okay. High Quality. Is that WHO? No? No, it's not. I was GONNA, say Claret but that's not it. To Start and end with the literacy. Yes I know. Oh Cognac. Yes. Cognac we'll check it can only be called Cognac if it's made in that specific region afraid of course. Question three fourteen letters having an extreme or irrational fear of confined places. That's CLAUSTROPHOBIA. Boo. O. phobic I'm sorry CLAUSTROPHOBIC. Sorry. Sorry. Looked like an a holiday I'm sorry, claustrophobic. Yes. Matches Rubik matches the theme. All right question, four, five letters relating to city or town especially its administration. That's civic. Correct. We'll back. Question Five, ten letters, two or more objects that share the same center or axis as seen in the target logo. pulled on. One two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, is it concentric? You're correct yes century. We. 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Characteristic check check I got that right Seven letters pots and other articles made from clay hardened by heat. that's ceramic. Correct wreck. Question nine thirteen letters relating or characterized by eating of the flesh of an animal by another animal of its own kind. That's cannibalistic. Correct. Okay. down. Coming on Washington okay I don't have an answer for this. I'm. GonNa. have to really parse it. Okay. Eight letters, eight letters. Involving or relating to treatment intended to restore or improve a person's appearance. No I have this. I. Have this hold on. Just give me a second. I'm going to take off my head. I, don't worry. This you know what? I'm GonNa, take as much time as I need. I need this. Okay. We all need this everyone. I know what? Our House. Is it cosmetic? The answer is cosmetic. The Horn and the Confetti Wa wa. Bought up, she got up from her computer she is dancing like an inflatable tube man. She's she's raw. She's left the room. Circles. I Palm. 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Thursday-The RNC Launch of Trumpzilla 2.0 Confirms: It All Comes Down To The Catholic Vote

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09:44 min | 5 months ago

Thursday-The RNC Launch of Trumpzilla 2.0 Confirms: It All Comes Down To The Catholic Vote

"For people of faith. To strike a blow against these bastards and no I don't think I'm not saying when there's no I don't think that this changes much of the Arca trajectory towards the A on. The road to perdition that we are currently on but it doesn't injure it either and if it doesn't injure it, then do it. So where are the people of? Faith. This is the time to do it and do it today now I wanna play this clip here. This is sister de Dreux Burn Of the little workers of the sacred heart's of Jesus. And Mary. Now I. Just want to just describe something about this back in April or May. And The president had a bunch of people that were on the ground that. had. Or aiding and assisting others in in dealing with and being treated for and meeting out charities for the the Corolla Corona. Hoax. One of the people that trump invited and A. Personally invited to that Rose Garden ceremony I think Mike Lindell was there was one of the ones that Lyndale was that there was another sister from the little workers at a sacred heart's of marriage a member we played the clip. and. She gets up and she's Inter she is introduced by trump as this is sister such she was young and she's with the workers of the sacred heart of Jesus and Mary sister go sister she got there. She gave a wonderful little two minutes. So that's the order here now what I find. Awesome. and motivational about this. Is that sister Deirdra is actually listed. In the program and then all the publicity has been with the little workers of the sacred. Heart's of Jesus and Mary. Dude. That's outreach right there. Now, place sisters clip listen to this. According to Joe Russillo and Joe Joe Priscila Joe Ransom Nilo. This was the highlight of night three. Could evening. I'm sister Didi burn and I belong to the community of the little workers of the sacred heart of Jesus and Mary. Last Fourth of July. I was honored to be one of the president's guest at his salute two. America celebration. I must confess that I recently prayed while and chapel begging God, to allow me to be a voice and instrument for human life. And now here I am speaking at the Republican National Convention. I guess you'd better be careful for what you pray for. My journey to religious life is not a traditional route if there is such a thing. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight as a medical school student at Georgetown University. I joined the army to help pay for my tuition. And ended up devoting twenty nine years to the military serving as a doctor and a surgeon in places like Afghanistan and Egypt's Sinai Peninsula. After much prayer and contemplation I entered my religious order in two thousand and two working to serve the poor and the sick in Haiti Sudan Kenya Iraq, and in Washington? DC. Humility is at the foundation of our order, which makes it very difficult to talk about myself. But I can't speak about my experience or king for those fleeing war torn and impoverished countries all around the world. Those refugees all share a common experienced. All marginalized. Viewed as insignificant, powerless and voiceless. And while we tend to think of the marginalized as living beyond our borders, the truth is the largest marginalized group in the world can be found here in the United States. They are the unborn. As Christians we first met Jesus is a stirring embryo in the womb unwed mother and saw him born nine months later in the poverty of the cave. It's no coincidence that Jesus stood up for what was just and was ultimately crucified because what he said wasn't politically correct or fashionable. As followers of Christ your call to stand up for life vote against the politically correct or fashionable of today. We must fight against a legislative agenda that support and even celebrates destroying life in the womb. Keep in mind the laws we create define how we see our humanity. And we must ask ourselves what are we saying when we go into a woman and snuff out an innocent powerless voices life? As a physician, I can say without hesitation life begins at conception. While what I have to say, maybe difficult for some to here I am saying it because I'm not just pro-life I'm pro eternal life and I want all of us to end up in heaven together someday. which brings me to why I'm here today. Donald Trump is the most pro-life president that this nation has ever had defending life at all stages. His belief in the sanctity of life transcends politics. President trump will stand up against Biden Harris who are the most anti life presidential ticket ever. Even. Supporting the horrors of late term abortion and infanticide. Because of his courage and conviction president trump has earned the support of America's pro-life community. Moreover he has a nationwide of religious standing behind him. You'll find us here with our weapon of choice, the Rosary. So thank you Mr President. We are all praying for you. That's pretty unambiguous. I have no idea where she came up with the. Maria's in unwed mother. Business. Because she most certainly was not. Any event contrast that with sister Mary pantsuit abortion is above my pay grade and you notice nice pattern emerging here and that's this. Life matters if you care about it and you and you're not. About its preservation and Conservation then you cannot support the most pro-aborts pro adrenal adrenal chrome guzzling ticket in the history of the known universe I will say though in. Hindsight. About Jay Z and beyond say and all the rest of the chrome guzzlers that Barack Hussein Obama hung out with. A At. We don't know that creepy sneaking. Creepy sniffy. Joe. Ever got on Lolita. The Leader Express pretty sure that Obama did. And I know Obama's buddies. Jay Z. Most certainly got on it. Did. You find the You're still looking for the line now I want to contrast sister said, would this now? Lead. dasha Harris as as attorney general, state of California. Began a campaign in two thousand and fifteen to torment, and then try to bury underneath whatever jail she could find. Founder for the Center for medical progress also known or This is the group that went inside planned parenthood and got the videos of them talking about selling at the the recently dismembered body parts from aborted babies and acts of infanticide. So what was? What was What was the response from the State of California? Did. You know that no one has ever been targeted. Using the. The very complicated by the by law that says that you can't. Record some some without their knowledge that David Allied as the only man, it's ever been targeted by this. What did he do? He recorded these abortion is talking about selling baby body parts. So the Dash Harris made it a cause celebre to try and bury David Delight none of that same jail. d'alene. Maxwell. is currently hiding underneath. The case continues on. Here's David Allied and just a couple of days ago talking about if you're out there he he's a modest him. You're Catholic you're Christian if pro-life and you're thinking about supporting La- Dash Harris. Let me tell you what she does to people that try and stop the murder of the innocent.

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Hank Sheinkopf 6-21-20

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07:21 min | 7 months ago

Hank Sheinkopf 6-21-20

"The Democrat Arabella Sam Otis fights for us every single day in the Assembly Arabella is. Vital funding for our city protecting working families and frontline workers and standing up to extremists to protect our values, vote by mail, vote, early or vote in person on June twenty third and re elect our champion Arabella modus paid for by New Yorkers for flexible work, and not expressly authorized or requested by any candidate or any candidates, political committee or any of its agents morning New York this is the cat's table trying to catch and teams here and Tuesday is primary day Tuesday. We decide it's a commonsense Democrats win or the. Democrats with. Where the Serb this morning is. One of the smartest guys I know. He Ran Bill Clinton's campaign. Mike Bloomberg campaign and steep strategist and a lot of democratic campaigns. Good morning, Hank cough. How are you this morning? Well, John I'm I'm Greg because I'm with you. How's that? You're doing okay? Everything Grill. Everything's. We're when you Tuesday. Gamma showed meeting on things sure I think the most important race to watch is the the most national and frankly international implications is the campaign against Eliot Engel the long term congressman from the Bronx Westchester Rockland County. She's been in in the Chamber and the House. of Representatives for thirty plus years. He's representatives district reasonably well as constituent service operations, but what he's being tax for frankly was big, a Jew and the comments about Israel which are not humane necessaire, always waffle discussion profound, and should he lose a hugh's back? Back it up, and it's really about the Democratic, party soul and future he is He will likely be on the last unabashedly pro Israel, which means pro-democracy a member of the chairman of that committee. The foreign affairs. Committee in the House. You know lifetime, which is a statement of by subs evercrack that being said Israel has become a focus walk why this is the break up of the Democratic Party as we know it, both parties are shifting to extremes, and if Israel is a wedge issue, it only tells you what the future holds for. An Ain't good should bomb and win, but he bombing, but when he again Eliot Engel winning again may only frankly put off the Bay of. The if he loses, you can watch the national ticket. Move more more closely to AFC and Ilana Mom stone-cold Anti Semite. Live the congresswoman from from Detroit, and the others were way on the left with the breakdown of finances and cities throughout the country. The future does not look well now. Let me ask you hate me and you've been around for her. And I was a Bill Clinton Democrat. Move Bill Clinton. I still do now. Elliott Angle. Pro Israel is the Democratic Party going against Israel now. The Democratic, party is shifting. It's moving. It's not about moving to the left. It's it's this is really in my view. Generational shifts and it's a generational shift their response to the Republican failure. Provide real policy alternatives during governance since Ronald. Reagan that's true. The other side of this is that shift away from. The night. The country's going through a shift. There's a better way to say. We are no longer a United States mark is no longer a country where the majority of residents can trace their roots to Europe so that not the case, and therefore it's trying to sink identity, and yes, there is a movement away from Israel and anybody who says otherwise is not being truthful, and they can blame the Netanyahu administration and Israel or whatever, but that's not the case. I'm the attack will be about the receipt of aid. And the plight of the Arabs who live next door to the Jews that's all well and good, but the truth is the Americans get more out of that relationship than the Israelis do. Be As railly's Egyptians have been beating al-Qaeda the deaths in the Sinai peninsula. No one talks about that. American control of Mediterranean is an argument that goes back to Harry Truman. The Truman doctrine that people seem to forget Israel's critical part to that and the people in this country like eating. They need to understand the relationship between foreign foreign policy defense policy I believe the here. Are, they more pro a Muslim countries. The fifty seven. Muslim. Countries I mean I know I don't think. That's the case yet. I don't think that's the case yet, but you have to ask yourself a question. If you're opposed the only democracy in the Middle East and you have all these code words about Jews. And you somehow show complete their ignorance of foreign policy overall. And you believe that that democracy must be punished in favor of states that engage in things like fourth quarter activities and ANA rapes. What are you talking about? He is pro gay, pro Lesbian, and the fact is the the Muslim countries in in the far he's take gays and push them all throws, and it killed all. Tell me the other country in the Middle East, that has a gay pride raise, but that doesn't care what people that they live their lives. That's part of this. The other part of this is stone. Economic issues we are changing economically bad for ineffective or more importantly. Not Reliance on a tax code that deeds desperate, changing suddenly change and the trump tax tax code. It was passed. Last year is just You know dangerous agents because this includes large economy. We got two minutes left and I wanna get everything in. He'll representing Michelle. Caruso, Cabrera a very bright lady, worked for CNBC wanting to give it a say. And I'm supporting her too AOC raise that ten million dollars twelve million. But it would be inappropriate to discuss that campaign. Frankly, but I will say this about about this belie the AFC live is great one. Here's somebody who lives in a WHO has a luxury apartment. gentrified neighborhood. In Washington DC, who, in the early part of the plague Khurana play didn't bother to come back to. The district has no real district. Office operation, but is leading a moving into read her emails. She is leading a movement that's for sure I and she's leading moving bad move, but will continue without substance impala unreal policy alternatives because that's not the issue they don't want to re. They want to win a race. Obviously, they don't care if they win the others they want to create enough turmoil, so they can ultimately take over the government. That's what this is about. Who is they? Thank you for coming on, you know I'm a pro commonsense Democrats and I would support any pro common any commonsense, Democrats new, and so let's hope for the right outcomes on. Tuesday, now we pray to. God, this country will last them. It's the most wonderful place in the world without which most of us will not be here today, living. Last pulp on the world. Thank you hang up. This is the round table. We'll be right back.

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The Assassination of Yitzak Rabin | 36

History of the 90s

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The Assassination of Yitzak Rabin | 36

"On the night of november fourth nineteen ninety-five over one hundred thousand people gathered in the kings of israel square in tel aviv for a peace rally. Hundreds more watched from the roofs of surrounding buildings so many people turned out that the rally ended up starting a little bit late because extra time was needed to let everyone said lynn. When israeli prime minister yitzhak rabin finally took the stage to speak. He must have been relieved at what he saw. Rabin had considered skipping the rally because he was worried. There would be an embarrassingly low turnout instead. The crowd of people was enormous. And they were all there to show support for rabin's plan for peace with the palestinians. Maybe was that relief that led the normally scheiber being to join the crowd as they sang popular peace anthem. Allah armed rabin fumbled with the lyrics. So he pulled a song sheet from his pocket to follow along. The crowd roared with appreciation. Who as a prime minister saying a young man through the crowd. He made his way to the side of the square cars belonging to rabin and other officials were part and he blended in bodyguards. Assumed he was just another chauffeur but they soon found out. That was a deadly mistake. I'm cathy can zora. And this is history of the ninety s a podcast about a decade that changed the world on this episode. We look back at the assassination of israeli prime minister. Yitzhak rabin a murder that changed the course of history by destroying what may have been the last chance at peace in the middle east. The israeli palestinian dispute is one of the world's longest and most tragic conflicts the bitter struggle which has raged since the end of the second world. War is a complicated mess but at the heart of it is a question about territory. A sliver of land that extends down from the north eastern coast of the mediterranean sea christians. Jews and muslims consider the holy land in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. The united nations attempted to solve the dispute at flushing long island. The generous of the united nations has made his decision on peta's taught the united nations voted to divide what was then called palestine into two states creating separate jewish and arab territories arab leaders. Wanted no part of it but in one thousand nine hundred forty eight. Jewish leaders went ahead and declared israel's independence as a result. Seven hundred thousand palestinians were forced or fled from their homes in a mass exodus. Known as the al nakba which is arabic for the catastrophe. The displaced palestinians moved to refugee camps in jordan lebanon syria the gaza strip and the west bank since then their descendants has spent generations living in those same refugee camps and today around one and a half million palestinians remain inside the camps over the past fifty years. The israeli palestinian dispute has continually flared into conflict including multi-state armed uprisings and acts of terrorism. A major turning point was the nineteen sixty seven six day. War war in the middle east israeli forces dr spearheads across the sinai peninsula west to the suez canal south to the entrance of the gulf of aqaba breaking the blockade capturing the west bank of the jordan river and occupying the old city of jerusalem. The six day war culminated with israel's occupation of east jerusalem the west bank and gaza after occupation israel went on to build jewish settlements inside the occupied territories which further inflame the situation and led to violent pushback by the palestinians. I there was the palestine liberation organization or yellow which came to prominence. After the six day war their goal was to take back the occupied land and under the leadership of yasser arafat. They attempted to do that. Through guerilla. warfare and terrorism is a nineteen newsflash from the olympic village. In munich early. This morning armed palestinian guerrillas raided the sleeping quarters of the israeli team in one thousand nine hundred ninety two an extremist offshoot of the plo called black. September stormed an apartment and killed two members of the israeli olympic team and took nine others hostage. They demanded the release of two hundred and fifty palestinian prisoners being held in israeli jails the drama and a tragically with a shootout at the munich. The nine israeli hostages were killed along with five terrorists and one west german policemen six years later in nineteen seventy eight. The plo was linked to another infamous attack. That's known as the coastal road massacre. It began on saturday afternoon when thirteen terrorist landed in a rubber dinghy on israel beach. They made their way to a coastal roadway. Israel's main highway and opened fire on passing vehicles killing several people. The gunman then hijacked two buses and took them to a tel aviv. Country club all. The passengers were transferred onto one bus and following a wild shootout with his rarely soldiers and police. The bus was burned to a charge. Shell thirty four people died and eighty two more were injured in addition to guerrilla warfare by the plo. The palestinian people also fought back against occupation between nineteen eighty-seven and nineteen ninety-one palestinian uprising. Known as the first antifa erupted across the occupied territories here in north america. You might remember that. The nightly news was filled with footage of young palestinian men throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at israeli targets the response by israeli police and military with swift and severe on orders from rabin then defense minister he instructed troops to break the bones of the stone-throwing palistinian protesters. This intern was met by more intense violence by the palestinians who switched from rocks and molotov cocktails to guns and grenades. It was a terrible and vicious conflict that resulted in thousands of deaths. It seemed like the violence might never end but hope was on the horizon in nineteen ninety two. Yitzhak rabin a former military general with a hardline reputation was elected prime minister of israel and he quickly moved to breathe new life into the stalled middle. East peace talks. After spending most of his life fighting the palestinians. he felt the time had come to make peace with them. The idea seemed impossible. After decades of violence in animosity how could the two sides ever bury the hatchet and agree to share the land but rabin was a man who seemed to accomplish whatever he set out to do for several months. Secret meetings between the israelis and palestinians were held in oslo norway and by september nineteen ninety-three. Miraculously an agreement was reached. The palestinians would recognize the state of israel and the israelis would recognize the plo as the sole representative of the palestinian people under the accords. Israel would withdraw from gaza and the west bank handing over day to day running of those territories to a newly created elected. Parliament called the palestinian authority. The oslo accords were really just the first step though. If all went well the interim agreement was supposed to be replaced by an even more comprehensive peace deal within five years before we carry on with the show. Let me tell you about a new true crime podcast. That i think you're gonna like it's called obsessed with disappeared. The new show is made by patrick. Hynes from the smash hit true crime obsessed and his best friend of twenty years broadway diva allen marsh. Obsessed with disappeared is a combination of true crime and comedy that tells the mysterious story of a missing person by recapping. The episode of the investigative discovery show disappeared that covered their case. And don't worry yes. Obsessed with disappeared as light and funny but they never find humor at the expense of the victim or the crime. Obsessed with disappeared is an easy. Listen it's hilarious and informative storytelling from two best friends who truly love each other and we'll do just about anything to make the other one laugh so if you're by cases of missing people and you're serious about true crime but also loved off. You'll love obsessed with disappeared. Find obsessed with dispute wherever you get your podcasts. A signing ceremony for the oslo accords was held in washington on september thirteenth nineteen ninety-three before a glittering crowd of three thousand people on the white house lawn and a world wide television audience of millions to old enemies came together to recognize each other's right to exist. It can't be understated. Incredibly important this moment was it. Ranks up there with the fall of the berlin wall and the release of nelson mandela. It was a breathtaking sight. Yes sir arafat had been considered a terrorist for nearly thirty years and now there he was in washington making peace. You've probably seen the iconic photo of rabin arafat shaking hands in front of. Us president bill clinton clinton apparently had to coax the two men to shake. Hands with a gentle nudge. Check out the photo or better yet. Watch the video on youtube. Arafat looks overjoyed. Rabin looks like he's grimacing. When rabin addressed the assembled guests. He spoke putting their painful past behind them. We were soldiers who have done from battle stained with blood. We have seen our relatives and friends here before we have attended obey unit and cannot look into the eyes of eggs. we compliment elaine. Where parents buried their children. We were both against you palestinian. We say you could be in a loud and clear the boys and not blood and up for their peace efforts rabin arafat and israeli. Foreign minister shimon peres. Were awarded the nobel peace prize in nineteen ninety four. But the peace agreement wasn't welcome news for everyone in particular it upset arab hardliners. Who didn't want to recognize israel's right to exist. Under any circumstances and it set off an unprecedented wave of terrorist attacks by palestinian groups like hamas a majority of israelis supported the deal but to the surprise of some it upset militant jewish settlers and other right wing extremists. They were vehemently against turning over the occupied settlements in the weeks leading up to the peace rally in november nineteen ninety five. Israeli extremists had ramped up the rhetoric. At protests promising to stop israel from handing over the west bank to the palestinians they called rabin a nazi a traitor. An emergency who needed to be stopped. The situation was further inflamed. When three extremist rabbis from the west bank issued a written opinion suggesting that it would be acceptable to kill rabin on the grounds that he had betrayed the jewish people one of those opposed to the peace deal and hanover was twenty five year. Old yougao amir. The third year law student grew up. Inside a large ultra orthodox family. Friends say amir grew increasingly agitated as the oslo process gathered steam. He was convinced that we're being was selling out the israelis and in particular the settlers he organized rallies in the occupied territories to denounce the agreements and even tried to start his own militia. I'm here blamed the prime minister for increasing violence by palestinian extremists and he spoke openly and often about the need for rabin to be killed. Many of his friends and fellow students had heard him proclaim that he wanted to be the one to kill him. At least one person reported the young man to israeli security forces. But they didn't take too seriously you see at the time. Israeli security forces were more focused on palestinian terrorism and they spent very little effort monitoring israeli extremists like amir which seems more than a little baffling because a year earlier a jewish resident of a west bank settlement had walked into a mosque in hebron and opened fire killing twenty nine worshippers one hundred and twenty five. Others were wounded by baruch goldstein. Before he was tackled and beaten to death by survivors. Goldstein became a folk hero to many israeli extremists including amir. Despite this rats in the opposition rabin pushed forward with the peace plan and he continued to make public appearances on november fourth nineteen ninety five rabin joined a bunch of other officials invited gas musicians and journalists onstage for a peace rally at kings of israel square in tel aviv. Security was tight. Spotlight scanned rooftops for snipers some nearby apartments had been searched residents had been forbidden to park in the area and in the square itself. Police were everywhere. The main fear among the security services was a palestinian suicide bomber. That's add officials did suggest that rabin wear a bulletproof vest but the pm wanted nothing to do with it. He couldn't imagine that. A fellow jew in the crowd would try to shoot him. When rabin took the stage he told the cheering rally. That israelis were ready for peace urging them to overcome their fears go of the past and finally forging a chord with their neighbors. The emotional climax came when veteran folksinger. Miri aloni performed her signature anthem. A song for peace sandwich rabin and the other politicians the singer back in the prime minister to join in putting a microphone to his mouth reluctantly. He mumbled along in his deep deep voice reading the lyrics from a sheet of paper when the song ended rabin folded up the sheet of music and put it in his breast pocket. He left the stage descended a set of stairs and began walking toward his car. Standing in the crowd near the car was ye gal amir earlier that night. Amir had gone to a synagogue near his home in suburban tel aviv. He prayed that he would be able to kill the prime minister without injuring. Anyone else and that he would be able to being killed himself. Amir then loaded his gun a nine millimeter baretto with ten hollow point bullets which can penetrate a bulletproof vest. He cocked the pistol and tucked it into the right side of pants. Amir then boarded a bus and headed to the downtown peace rally. He removed his kipah. The skullcap worn by orthodox jews to avoid attracting attention to himself amir worked his way through the crowd to the side of the square. Where the official cars were part he mingled with the government chauffeurs. Who were standing around idly smoking cigarettes. As they waited for their passengers amir blended in with a group positioning himself near rabin's car bodyguards. Drivers just assumed he was another driver as we're being made his way to his car. A grainy video captured what happened. Next drivers began moving to their vehicles but amir hung back holding the gun from his waistband and stepping from the crowd to fire three shots as he fired and people reacted to the pop pop. Pop of the gun amir shouted. It's nothing it's nothing. They aren't real bullets. They're fake and this added to the confusion but rabin fell to the ground he'd been hit by two hollow point bullets one pierced his back below the clavicle smashed through his ribcage and entered his right lung the other entered his lower back ruptured his spleen and then traveled up and to his left lung. That bullet tore a hole in the printed copy of the peace anthem tucked in rabin's breast pocket. The third bullet hit a bodyguard. Who grabbed the prime minister and threw him into the backseat of the car. Laying him across the seat. The driver didn't immediately realize that rabin was wounded. He asked rabin if he was injured. And he responded. Yes whispering that his back was in pain then saying it's not too bad before passing out. The hospital was less than a kilometer away but the route was blocked by thousands of supporters. Who were just leaving the rally. The driver was forced to take a different route. That was almost three times longer and on the way the cadillac was stopped at a police roadblock where he spent precious moments talking his way through but eventually a police escort took them the rest of the way to the hospital at the hospital. No one had been alerted to expect the shooting victim and everyone was caught off. Guard the driver the wounded bodyguard and the police officer who provided the escort burst into the trauma award caring rabin and shouting the prime minister's been wounded. Take care of him. Doctors rushed to rabin but he was already unconscious and without a pulse. Doctors later said his wounds were so severe. He only had a slim chance of survival. From the moment he was hit. Rabin was pronounced dead at eleven. Oh two pm. He was seventy three years old back at the scene of the shooting. Police had handcuffed demure on the ground within seconds of the attack then he was lifted to his feet and carey to a nearby wall at least fifteen officers pressed up against him clutching his arms and patting him down. An officer asked where the bullets real was rabin. The intended target amir said yes. He intended to hit the prime minister. And yes the bullets were real on the ride to the station am year made a full confession. He was asked if he was aware. His action would cause rabin's death he said not only was he aware. It was his objective at the police station. Amir was calm and nonchalant at one point he even asked officers to take his skullcap from his pocket and put it on his head a bit later. He told officers his watch had fallen off during his arrest and he wondered if someone might be able to go back and get it for him. When word arrived at the station that rabin had died on the operating table. An officer told him year the young man threw up his cuffed hands and declared. I did it then. He asked for a glass of schnapps to toast the news outside the hospital. A spokesman for the prime minister broke the news to supporters that the prime minister was debt. They wailed in grief and curse the right wing extremists who had created a climate of hatred over rabin's peace policies in particular. They blamed benjamin netanyahu the leader of the opposition party who was a strong opponent to the peace accord with the palestinians. Netanyahu spoke to now infamous demonstrations where the crowd slogans included death to rabin months earlier in july nineteen ninety-five. Netanyahu walked at the head of a mock funeral procession featuring a fake black coffin rabin was confirmed dead an emergency cabinet meeting was held. An empty chair was draped in black marking. Rabin's place at the table foreign affairs. Minister shimon peres. Who was dressed in the same suit and tie. He'd worn on stage a few hours earlier at the peace rally was appointed acting prime minister. His face pale and heavy peres kept his gaze down as he vowed to continue rabin's mission to make peace with israel's arab neighbors fellow cabinet ministers bowed their heads as peres said there was nothing else to do but to continue a great road to peace paved by a great leader in his first. Major decision. Shimon peres delayed the funeral of yitzhak rabin until november six two days after the shooting under jewish tradition. Burials usually take place within twenty four hours but peres decided to delay the funeral so that world leaders could attend gas at the funeral included canadian prime minister john chen and us president bill clinton joining them were over twenty six hundred foreign dignitaries including us. Senator edward kennedy. He sprinkled earth beans coffin. That was taken from arlington national cemetery where his brothers john and robert are buried. P. l. o. Chairman yasser arafat did not attend the funeral. His office said he decided not to go to avoid creating a political spectacle and security nightmare. The eulogy was performed by rabin's successor and political rival shimon peres to the arab leaders in attendance peres said peace is irreversible there is no turning back not for us and not for u u s president. Bill clinton spoke at the funeral as well now it falls to all of us who love peace and all of us who loved him to carry on the struggle to which he gave life and for which he gave his life he cleared the past and his spirit continues to live away. The funeral was closed to the public but the night before. Approximately one million israelis converged on the israeli parliament building. Where rabin's body lay in state mourners waited in line for hours to catch a glimpse of rabin's simple pine coffin which was draped in the blue and white israeli flag about two weeks after the shooting. Police took yigal amir back to the scene of the crime. They wanted him to reenact what happened. The night of the shooting. Amir was dressed in a bulletproof vest as he calmly showed police how he shot the prime minister officers videotape the reenactment and people passing by stopped to see what was going on when they figured it out. The began yelling at calling him a murderer and a piece of garbage at one point mirror drew a fake gun from his waistband and pretended to fire three shots. He then calmly put the gun back in his pants. The crowd went crazy yelling and cursing at the man who had killed their prime minister. Six weeks after the shooting an amateur video of the actual shooting was released by the media. The dark grainy video was purchased for five hundred thousand dollars by israel's channel two tv station and the country's largest selling newspaper when it was broadcast on tv the world was shocked to see just how close amir had gotten to rabin. It showed amir standing around near the official cars. At one point shimon peres walked past him. Then we're being came down the stairs and walked within five feet of a mirror. That's when amir pulled out his gun and fired three shots watching the video. It seems like after the first shot rabin looks over his shoulder as if he heard someone calling his name but then he quickly collapses out of sight of the camera. when amir's trial began in january nineteen ninety six. He backtracked on his earlier confession to police. He now said he didn't mean to kill rabin. He only wanted to paralyze him to stop the peace process and he said he had nothing personally against rabin few days into the trial amir took over his own defense. One of his lawyers quit and the other was scolded by the judge for coming to court. Unprepared remember amir was a third-year law student at the time of the shooting and he was able to match wits with expert witnesses and cross examine his police interrogators. But still. The trial was chaotic. It continued until march nineteen ninety-six. Many key witnesses were disqualified while others failed to show up and the judge was constantly shouting at the defense for making false claims during closing arguments. Defense lawyers sought a verdict of manslaughter. They said the fact that amir shot being in the back and not the head demonstrated that he didn't intend to kill the prime minister. But the prosecution asked for a verdict of premeditated murder with life imprisonment. The court agreed with the prosecution and they found amir guilty of premeditated murder saying he meticulously planned. The killing and calmly pulled the trigger. While the verdict was read amir briefly put a hand on his forehead but showed no other emotion. He was sentenced to life in prison. Emirs twenty-seven-year-old brother and a friend were also found guilty of conspiracy to commit murder after they admitted to helping make the hollow point. Bullets used to kill rabin. The brothers served sixteen and a half years jail. The friend served seven years following the assassination of rabin. The peace process never really recovered shimon peres. Who vowed to move forward with peace. Plans waited three months to call an election but perez was not as popular as rabin. He was considered too far to the left. For many israelis and he had a reputation as an unwavering piece of an a dreamer. Unlike we're being tough war hero image after so many years of unrest israelis wanted security. So they voted for hard liner. Benjamin netanyahu leader of the right-wing likud party. Who vowed to make israel safe again. Netanyahu the man who marched in a mock funeral procession for rabin remains prime minister of israel to this day in the year since rabin's death the situation in israel has once again become a complicated and complex mass instead of moving toward peace. The region appears to be moving further and further away from it. Rabin was killed by a man determined to halt the middle east peace process. And that's exactly what he did. According to the united states institute of peace the gaps between the israeli and the palestinian positions are now wider at any point since one thousand nine hundred sixty seven and they're approaching the point of being unbridgeable bullets and the actions of uganda mirror in november. Nineteen ninety-five altered the destiny of two nations. Thanks for listening to this. Look back at one of the many historical moments of the nineties. It truly was an unprecedented era of peacemaking. If this is something you're interested in knowing more about make sure you go back and check out our earlier episodes on nelson mandela and german reunification. If you've got an idea for a show i'd love to hear from you. Please drop me a line. At ninety. S at curious. Cast dot ca. That's nine zero s at curious. Cast dot ca. You can also reach me through twitter at nine hundred ninety history and on instagram and facebook. If you haven't already please make sure to subscribe to our show so you never miss an episode. Were available for free at pont casts spotify google podcasts and everywhere else you stream your audio and you can also listen at curious. Cast dot ca is hosted and written by me. Kathy kin zora deal of. Alaska is our producer. Sound design and final production is by rob. Johnston see you next time for more history of the ninety s.

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S12: Creatures & Cryptids: The Annunaki Pt. 2

Parcast Presents

39:37 min | 4 months ago

S12: Creatures & Cryptids: The Annunaki Pt. 2

"There's an old biblical story one many of probably heard before it's the story of Lot's wife in the Old Testament it tells of two cities, Sodom and Gomorrah set to be destroyed by God's wrath after years of sin and decadence but Abraham pleads with God if there's a single good person there he says, you must find them and spare them. They find lot a resident of Sodom who they determined to be the city's one good man. They tell him that he his wife and his daughters may leave the city, but they must move quickly for destruction is imminent. As the family reached the desert, the rumble of the city's demise booms out from behind them. Unable to help herself and against God's orders. Lot's wife looks back at the blast and becomes a pillar of salts here in the Bible. It's lesson on following the word of God. Even if you don't understand it, it's about having faith. But what if the Bible is trying to tell us something else to? To cities wiped from the face of the earth in a massive blast and onlooker reduced to salt or Ash. Maybe the people in in these ancient stories weren't smited by God's fury alone. Perhaps there's a secular historical interpretation to other ancient writings. Tell of Sumerian cities that around that same time fell to what they called an evil wind the sudden death of props poisoning water. All of the symptoms of nuclear fallout. But what could have caused such an atomic blast in times humans didn't have that power. But perhaps ancient aliens did. Are we alone have we been alone. Will we be alone. Stories of alien visitation have been ingrained in human history. Alien Life may not be confirmed. Our obsession with can't be ignored welcome to extraterrestrial apart cast original I'm Tim and bill every Tuesday we visit the marvelous and strange stories about our encounters with beings from another world. We're aware that some of these tales may seem completely unbelievable others may seem all too real but these stories shed light on human nature, human beliefs and human psychology, and each story has garnered hundreds if not millions of true believers and for that reason, we think they're worth exploring today. Doing our discussion on the anew nakae ancient extraterrestrial renaults who supposedly came to Earth created humanity, and then absconded the only record of the honor knock you left the knowledge they passed on to us. That is if you believe authors Zachariah citizens version of events at par cast. We're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at podcast and twitter at podcast network, and if you enjoyed today's episode, the best way to help is leave a five star review where ever you're listening really does help. We also now have merchandise had to podcast dot com slash merch for more information. Last episode, we dug into authors Zachariah since one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, six, book the Twelfth Planet a reinterpretation of ancient. Sumerian texts most significantly he proposed an alternate translation of the Word Sham where scholars often assumed this meant temple situation had other ideas. He said it rocketship from here he laid out an entire story of the creation of humanity by ancient aliens drawing from Sumerian myths and taking their fantastical details at face value. The result was astonishing tale. Ancient aliens known as the NEF Aleem lived on the planet Nibiru the Twelfth Planet of our solar system. They came to Earth to mind the planet for precious metals in need of minors to do the digging on new son Anki began to experiment with. DNA. Eventually by mixing alien genes with primitive apes, he invented the perfect species for hard work human beings. But when the aliens began breeding with humans, the highest ranking Nestle Salim were disgusted. They recall their species backed in a be ru leaving some of their scientific knowledge as a parting gift. That's where the twelfth planet leaves things with their Home Planet Nibiru on a three thousand, six, hundred year orbit around the Sun. The naphthalene aren't due back in our neck of the solar system anytime soon. From the start since theories were controversial. Critics dismiss them out of hand when the book was released in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, six. One early reviewer last shah called it learned well researched carefully documented piffle another James Oberg called it an astronomical flop. But. The criticisms couldn't stop the momentum of the book or of and himself before long he became a minor celebrity among proponents of the ancient astronauts theory. In the years following the twelfth planets release. Sich and became a frequent attendee of conventions such as the ancient astronauts society, which featured a lecture from such in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, eight. Hard. As it is to imagine though sin wasn't even the first person to suggest that an alien race had created humanity. In the sixties and seventies, ancient astronauts were growing field of study among conspiracy theorists. was even the first to publish them in a book most of the credit for the theories surge in popularity probably goes to Eric von Daniken. WHO's nineteen sixty, eight book chariots of the Gods had put into the mainstream, the notion of. Coming to Earth. And building the Pyramids Stonehenge and other marvels of engineering throughout early civilization. The idea caught fire and the book landed on the New York Times bestseller list in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seventy, it was adapted into documentary film by Nineteen Seventy six when the twelfth planet was released audiences were prime to hear more about visitors from distant planets bringing their futuristic ways to primitive humanity. Where such an innovated was in going all the way back to the ancient Sumerians and using some of the earliest written texts to backup his claims. His knowledge of Sumerian and Assyrian writing and his ability to synthesize various religious tales into mostly coherent creation story made his version seem especially plausible plus his visual evidence was substantial and convincing. There with a carvings of strange giant figures wearing helmets, other ancient art showed pyramid-shaped ziggurats with what looked like antenna at their tips and most importantly, a Sumerian picture of the solar system boasted twelve planets not just ate off the success of this first book and the gleeful reception at conventions and among the alien astronaut community. Zachariah kitchen had to find a way to keep the momentum going. He'd already spelled out his theories in the twelfth planets. He was giving speaking tours reiterating those theories and answering questions. But there was only one way he could think of to keep the ideas alive, growing and spreading. He wrote another book. The Stairway to heaven was released in one, thousand, nine, hundred eighty and it packed in even more astounding revelations about on anarchy society. It told how they influenced human evolution and revealed what happened to the After they left Earth. If it seems extremely convenient that Sich and managed to uncover yet more details about the Nakae enough that he could publish another book. It's worth remembering that he had plenty to work with in terms of sources, thousands of years of religion and legend in fact, which could easily be reinterpreted to connect to the honor anarchy. And his primary source, the Sumerian texts provided more than enough material thirty, thousand clay tablets could easily feel a series of books about the supposed true story of humankind's creation. But of course, the big question is whether his connections were rooted in legitimate archaeology and history or if he was simply making tenuous links to fit his pre existing theory. Since. Whole theory rests on the belief that all human mythology and religion stemmed from these alien visitors and the stories passed down about them. So anything from the Bible, the Koran, the Hindu Vega's it was all relevant and could be connected and that's exactly what and did the earth chronicles a series of seven volumes detailing all of citizens discoveries from the tablets and other religions was released in installments over the next thirty years. Each, one expanded on the story of the NEF Aleem the honor Nakae and mankind's early days. In the second installment, Sin began to expand the story bringing in other cultures besides ancient Sumeria and involving disparate figures from world history he started in ancient Egypt. According to. The oldest gods of Egypt came to Earth from these so-called celestial disc. He describes it as a long cylindrical object with fire at its tail and lights at its head. These headlights could change color from blue to red when faeroes died they would ascend that the stairway to heaven and joined the oldest God's at their home in the celestial disc. But for sin, the stairway to heaven wasn't a metaphor for passing on to the next life. It was real. And how exactly did a real life Phero use the stairway to heaven to ascend to the? Stars. It was easy if we understand the stairway to be another name for the launch pad for a rocket. For Pharaohs had it to the next world the path laid out in a Gypsy lore yearly mirrored how an astronaut might make their way to a shuttle launch drawing from the book of the dead and from writings about Egyptian King Pepi the First Section compared the journeys peppy departed by ferry from the land of Horace what we call Egypt's and made his way into the land of south the do art. The do art is described as the realm of the dead or as Sin Conspicuously titled It the abode for rising to the stars the launchpad it was here at the do art that happy began to meet technicians gods who prepared his vessel for final departure. They were the ones who provided flaming fire to the boat of raw the. Sun. God. Another figure described as the captain of the boat of the Gods. To more are described as those who order the course of the stars. Like technicians working on the Apollo missions, these figures moved hurriedly wasting no time getting ready for the journey here. The Pharaoh changed into a new outfit one fit for a journey to the stars a spacesuits. Then it happened the king boarded the ship. Did the ancient writers who recorded this process means ship as in boat or ship. As in rocketship. Whichever it was it was propelled by what the text calls. The smoke of the Great. And it was headed upward toward the stars. But there's obviously no ancient spaceport in Egypt today and Zachariah Sin knows why? Because it was destroyed by the anew Nakae. Sich and followed up the stairway to heaven with yet another sequel nineteen, eighty, five's the wars of Gods and men. By now since following was secure, he continued appearing at conventions and soon even began to lead expeditions called sits studies. These were tours of some of the archaeological sites described in his books and the number of these sites was expanding with each new addition to the series the third book centers on Mount Sinai and attempts to explain what happened to the space port and why the on Inaki don't continue to visit Earth to this day. According to sin, there's a simple answer for the disappearance of the space port the. And the ancient world as he describes it. Nuclear War. Up, next modern technology melds with ancient history now back to our story. In Nineteen seventy-six Zachariah kitchen laid out his theory for how the alien race known as the on Inaki settle earth and created humanity in his book, the Twelfth Planet. A few years later, he followed that up with the Stairway to heaven which suggested that the auto nakae built a giant space ports in the Middle East and to explain why there's no spaceport there today Sich and proposed that ancient nuclear war among the aliens had destroyed it. That's the subject of the wars of Gods and men his third book published in Nineteen Eighty Five, the soil of the Sinai peninsula is famously dry. Land is flat the ground hard and the dirt of the Central Plain is pitch black viewed from space. It almost looks burned according to sin one should look to two thousand, twenty, four B C to find the answer for how it ended up this way he said that at this time the auto knock you controlled the cities of the Middle East and frequently warred with one another. Eventually and on Inaki peace. Council was convened. But peace talks quickly turned to further on Inaki infighting. Marmaduke the one time wild child of the honor Nakae had been conquering city after city across the region but his father Anki defended him. An argument broke out and one of the aliens era stormed out declaring his intention to use the ultimate weapon of the under knocking. Nuclear warheads. Era was supported by en Lille who city Marmaduke had sacked and even on new their great leader approved of the use of this ultimate weapon. The text reads quote at the Mount, most suppress them the hero arrived he raised his hand the Mount was smashed the Mount most supreme was Mount Sinai says situation where the spaceport lay. Then era moved on to Sodom and Gomorrah. The story goes quote the city's he finished off to desolation he overturned them. The infamous deed was done the cities of the plane and the spaceport between them were obliterated. The fallout from the blast in Modern Day Saudi Arabia was felt as far away as Sumeria, almost a thousand miles away. Versus from poems described the sudden desolation of Sumerian communities in the twenty first century DC. Right, around the time of the bomb says citizen one expert reads quote. Causing cities to be desolated houses to become desolate. It's rivers flow with water that is better. It's cultivated fields grow weeds. Could it be a coincidence that at the same time the biblical Sodom and Gomorrah Fell Sumerian villages were brought to their knees by an unknown malady. What makes since theories especially compelling is that scientific advancements often came along to support them in the years following the publication of his first book Zachariah Sich and kept a close watch on developments in astronomical and scientific circles often seizing on them as evidence of the claims he made in his books in April two. Thousand, for example, a paper published by the magazine. Geology. Attempted to explain the fall of the acadian empire by analyzing nearby ocean basins. Researchers found that the region had taken a sharp inexplicable turn for the dusty and arid about four thousand, twenty, five years ago. The result was drought and famine whole cities were abandoned. Sin Did the math writing in two thousand one he subtracted four, thousand, twenty, five years and he found that brought him to twenty twenty, four BC that's the exact year such and had already said the nuclear bomb went off. Could it be that? The sudden in weather was actually caused by the nuclear bomb he believed he'd uncovered in ancient writings. If it was the scientists whose research was covered in the magazine geology didn't make such a link. But the paper declined to speculate about what did 'cause this climate change throughout his writing career sin continued to weigh in on scientific findings that might connect to his theories in nineteen ninety six the world was taken with a rare visit from an ancient satellite, the Hale Bopp comet. Here's astronomer. Richard. Berenson on the approaching comet the comet is now approaching the sun quite rapidly it'll seem to be going one hundred thousand miles per hour. And it's an old ancient ancestor of our really it's made of the same water and carbon that we ourselves are. Named for its discoverers, Alan Hale and Thomas Bopp. The Bopp comet made waves with its extraordinarily bright body and unusually long orbital period. Hale. Bopp only passes by the earth every two, thousand, five, hundred, thirty years though it's visits for long in the nineties, it was visible to the naked eye for a year and a half. Its closest passing was on March Twenty Second Nineteen Ninety seven. It was a marvelous site in an article from Nineteen ninety-seven Sich and claims that he was besieged with phone calls surrounding the appearance of Hale Bopp. Concerned Fans and fellow theorists were desperate to know was this Nimby, rue. The Home Planet of the honor Nakae and Neville Em Nibiru, you'll remember had an extraordinarily long orbital cycle three, thousand, six, hundred years according to citizen. But Simpson disagreed this was a comet not a planet and certainly not nibiru perhaps he simply realized that his claims wouldn't hold up if the comet came and went with no word from the on Inaki or may be contrary to his usual willingness to make huge leaps Sich and recognize that turning a planet into a comet stretched the limits of believability even for his readers at that same time the discovery of a planetary body dubbed Nineteen ninety, six, t l sixty six also fed fuel to the fire. This latter body was not a comet making it a better fit for nibiru according to switching. But it was too small for astronomers to consider it a true planet again, Sich and was inundated with questions could nineteen ninety-six, t l sixty, six, be Nibiru. And again, Sin said, no, he said that Nibiru was three or four times the earth size much larger than nineteen ninety-six T. L. Sixty six was supposed to be, but he seized on both Hale Bopp and nineteen ninety-six t. l. sixty six as proof of the gigantic orbital periods that can characterize satellites journey through the solar system. Hale Bopp was only discovered a year of so before it became visible in the sky. If naby ru really does travel along the gigantic path Sich and said, it does it's entirely plausible that it's simply too distant for human devices to detect. And that means it may still be out there. Ready to return when we least expect it. While since fans were eager to confirm his theories, he had his skeptics as well such as Dr Michael Heiser. Dr Heiser holds a PhD in ancient Semitic languages in the mid two thousands he began analyzing the work of Zachariah. Kitchen. Immediately, he found the translations suspect in his first book Sich and claims that the word on Inaki literally translates to people of the fiery rockets. That sounds like an arguable point in favor of ancient alien astronauts but heiser breaks down the word and shows that it actually means princely seed that is offspring of the prince presumably on. There's simply no plausible reason to read the word, the way Sich and does. Not of the words components resemble his claims. The only explanations are an innocent misunderstanding. Or and intentional deception. Another core pillar of since argument is seal va to forty three, which we discussed in part one. It's supposedly shows the sun above the heads of several on Inaki, a sun surrounded by twelve planets. Surely, this indicates that ancient people observed celestial bodies that we still don't know about or maybe not. heiser points out that the peace of the carving that Sich and interprets as the sun doesn't align with how the sun is depicted in any other Sumerian carving. In all likelihood what looks the carving like the Sun was in fact just at a picture of a Star The DOTS surrounding it represented other stars, the largest star. The one that looks like a son was merely depicted that way to emphasize it in the picture. Likely it was a star connected to the ritual being shown in carving a star. The Syrians associated with agriculture for example, clearly a slightly deeper look into since claims suggest that at best he made huge assumptions and misinterpretations in order to craft his theory about the auto donkey. Zachariah kitchen never commented on these objections in fact, he seems deliberately to have avoided doing so. Heiser was a frequent guest on coast to coast. AM The same program on which Sich, pedaled his theories. But though heiser frequently requested a debate between the two Sich and never responded this despite his eager attitude toward answering the questions of fans wondering about Hale Bopp and other planets citizen didn't let the criticism stop him though his output was prodigious. He wrote four more books in the Earth Chronicles series and a number of compendiums, projects and more to illuminate the history of the rocky. But as we've already seen with the second and third installments, each new book brought with it gigantic revelations that seemed improbably tacked onto the existing the theologies. Where the Twelfth Planet declared that the under Nacchio had left Earth following the flood. For example, the sequels conveniently find that they return shortly thereafter and continued as if nothing had happened and later books give the. Credit for everything from Stonehenge, to South, American civilizations in January two, thousand, ten, a New York Times reporter wrote a profile of situation. At that time he was living on the upper west side of Manhattan eighty nine years old with thirteen books to his name, and still insisting to the last that the ancient gods of the Sumerians were aliens from the planet Nibiru Sich died peacefully in October of two thousand ten. Even since his death though his theories have been widely promulgated and in two thousand fifteen scientists made a huge discovery one that might just prove Zachariah Sich in correct after all another planet in the solar system just like Sich and predicted. A planet that perfectly fit the description of Nibiru. Next will discover whether scientists may have finally found new bureau now back to our story. Authors Zachariah situation continued to release books throughout the eighties nineties and early two thousands with every new installment came a new revelation about the unoccupied. But. He wasn't just writing. He was reading to constantly keeping up on the newest scientific developments right up until his death in two thousand ten each new discovery could be folded into his theory of the on Inaki it seemed. Every passing comment and astronomical phenomenon aligned with something the ancient Sumerians had described on clay tablets four thousand years ago as we've already seen, a lot of these connections were tenuous at best the existence of long orbital paths for celestial objects alone is not proof that nibiru exists but other findings after the author's death were more compelling in hinting at a possible truth behind his writings. Findings like planet, X. In January two, thousand, fifteen to astronomers at the California Institute of Technology in. Pasadena, made a startling announcement. They had uncovered evidence of a new planet in the solar system. They hadn't seen the planet through a telescope or any advanced detection technology. Rather, they'd simply done the math. The scientists looked at the paths of celestial bodies like Dwarf Planets in icy objects things they could follow. In attempting to account for the specific and sometimes strange orbital paths of one Dwarf Planet. In particular the astronomers were baffled its path simply didn't make sense not the gravitational influence of the objects that they were aware of anyway they decided that the most likely explanation was that another extremely large planet one outside range of detection must have been affecting its Orbit Planet X. Thus began a search for this massive potential new planet, a search that continues to this day. But fans of citizens work pounced declaring planet X to be a likely candidate for Nibiru. Whether Sinn would agree is another matter since he died five years before the planet's discovery, his thoughts remain a matter of pure speculation. But unlike Hale Bopp and nineteen ninety-six, T. L. Sixty, six, planet x is genuinely believed to be a planet and a big one that. The reasons such an had for dismissing those other objects simply don't apply to planet X, and so the possibility remains that before long will see the return of Nibiru and the honor Nakae a return that if since theories are true brings with it major upheaval, catastrophic floods, nuclear disaster, everything's on the table. In verifying debunking since claims, the best place to start seems to be the twelfth. Planet. That's where the most fundamental ideas about this theory you're laid out. By examining these, we can evaluate since theories on the scale of believable from one to ten with ten being extremely likely. The first book is, of course, where we learn about Nubia Rue the titular twelfth planet. It's the one that sits in most directly ties to actual Sumerian texts and ancient carvings. The later materials often require huge leaps, but even in that first book, there's plenty of reason to be skeptical as we heard from Dr Michael Heiser, much of Citizens Sumerian translation simply doesn't track with what scholars know about the language and Sumerian understanding of astronomy was probably weaker than such and claims in fact Sumerian writings affirm again and again that ancient Sumerians knew of only the five closest planet in solar system, Mercury Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. As for Nibiru the name Sich and gives to these supposed- Twelfth Planet sin isn't wrong that the texts sometimes use the word Nibiru to refer to a planet. But? That planet isn't one beyond Pluto usually refers to Jupiter. Sometimes, it's also used to refer to the God Marzouk who these Sumerians associated with Jupiter. At. No point in the texts is Deby rule referred to as a twelfth planet. The. Nakae or as a planet with a three, thousand, six, hundred year orbital path. The fact that astronomical objects can have massive and long orbital paths is not exactly rock solid evidence that alien gold miners landed on Earth. And even more intriguing findings like the climate shifts within the Sinai peninsula can just as easily be attributed to the kinds of sudden droughts and desertification that plagued the region to this day. One would expect a nuclear bomb to leave a little more evidence than some charge soil and dry strip of land. But that characterizes citizens approach to the mythology in general stretching the existing evidence to its breaking point and ignoring what evidence disagrees with his claim. It's an unfortunate tendency especially in light of what reviewer James Burgh pointed out about much of the twelfth planet he wrote in One Thousand Nine, hundred, seventy, eight since grasp of near eastern archaeology is excellent. I would recommend them to anyone interested in a survey of that field but that section of the book last only about one hundred pages. And in. So frequently flipping between accurate descriptions archaeology and his own less reliable versions of Sumerian history and culture sich and only further muddies the waters and discredits his own theories. Still the theories were undeniably influential legions of fans continue to learn about discuss and propagate Zachariah sins ideas about the on Inaki and the nephew. Liam. To this day, his niece Janet situation is the Webmaster of citizens, official website, answering questions and providing updates on his theories in two thousand fifteen she edited a book of previously unpublished writings by her uncle, condensing his work into a single volume and allowing it to spread even further but the theories didn't need another book to make their mark. Hollywood have long ago taken the basic tenets of sins ideas and use them for a number of films. V original stargate movie from Nineteen ninety-four drew considerable portions of its mythology from the on inoculation. In particular the idea of ancient aliens using humans laborers to mine. For Precious Metals it also connects these aliens to the Pyramids if. It though that theory is an original to sin and Roberto or see the writer of the two thousand eleven, Film Cowboys and Aliens said the aliens of his film were loosely based on the Babylonian legend of the on anarchy. If the spread of his ideas into science fiction film literature is any indication sin would have made quite the successful Scifi writer, his inventive narratives and massive millennia spanning mythology is clearly the work of a strong imagination but by publishing his supposed- findings as nonfiction. Sich and open himself up to scrutiny that reveals how his work either through misunderstanding or Deception repeatedly misrepresents the actual mythology and science of Sumerian culture. Ultimately, we must conclude that the consistent misreading of well understood Sumerian mythology and the obvious stretches required to expand that first book into twelve sequels and spinoffs hurt the theories credibility. However, there is something compelling to the way Sich and connects distant world religions and mythologies. With. No real way of knowing exactly what occurred in the distant past we must leave open the possibility that some cosmic event bite have inspired the holidays many different cultures throughout the millennia. But without stronger evidence and with the contradictory and absurd nature of many of since claims that possibility is extremely remote. As a result, this theory earns a who out of ten on the believability scale. Even Zachariah citizens increasingly outlandish claims provoked doubt. It's worth considering them in the context in which they were published his supposed discoveries about the on anarchy often corresponded to what was going on in the world around sin especially in the sciences at the time of their writing, for example, the Aussie DNA experiments that sin claims led to humankind's creation mirrored the same DNA experiments that American scientists were doing in the seventies. Frederick sanger invented a method for sequencing DNA in nineteen, seventy, five the year before since book was published a discovery that netted the scientist and Nobel prize just a few years later, and since third book focused as it was on a civilization's destruction by means of nuclear weapons was released in nineteen eighty five. These were the waning but still terrifying years of the Cold War's nuclear standoff between the United States and Russia. Even if they've relied heavily on conjecture or outright fabrication since books were clearly exploring real fears and interests of his own time period. In that way, they might prove more useful as an insight into what was occupying the minds of Americans in the nineteen seventies eighties then as a historical documents about ancient Sumerian aliens as scientific progress continues to read changed the way we interact with the world around us. There's some comfort in the idea that maybe we've already figured this out once before and increasingly complex world might find some solace knowing that ancient people had the answers to questions about space in the universe about our origins and about the deepest questions of our existence and may be if since description of the three, thousand, six, hundred year path of the planet Nibiru is accurate. If the on Inaki and the NFL team will return as Sich and predicts. Maybe we just need a little patience answers and aliens might just be on the way. Thanks for listening to our story the. You can find all previous episodes of extraterrestrial as well as all a cast other shows on spotify and anywhere else you listen to podcasts new episodes come out every Tuesday several of you have asked how to help us. If you enjoy the show, the best way to help is to leave five star review and don't forget to follow us on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network. We'll see you next time. Extraterrestrial was created by Max Cutler is a production of cutler media and as part of the podcast network, it's produced by Max and Ron Cutler with sound design by Russell Nash Production Assistance by Ron Shapiro and Paul Moller. Additional production assistance by Maggie, Meyer and Freddie. Beckley. Extraterrestrial is written by Thomas, Dolan. GAVITT and stars Bill Thomas and Tim Johnson.

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"Did. You know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So what are you waiting for your baby to let you sleep in? Sleeping another half hour. Thanks Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to. Never, been a better time to switch to geico save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October seventh limitations apply visit GEICO DOT COM for details. Now, here's a highlight from coast to coast am on Iheartradio and welcome back Dr Ken Hansen back with us he's a dynamic author lecturer founder of treasures in time, which is an organization devoted to disseminating knowledge of the biblical and classical world. He is doggone archaeological sites in the Middle East lived in a very politically volatile region of northern Galilee taught Hebrew on an Israeli agricultural settlement and he is also worked with a television news gathering operation in a war zone in southern Lebanon at the height of that civil. War that left the jewel of the Middle Mediterranean in ruins Dr Hanson lends a timeless perspective to the challenges of the future. He's also noted author. One of his books includes Dead Sea Scrolls the untold story Dr Ken Hansen back on Coast to coast. Hi, can good you back good to be with you George and warm shallow from the University of Central Florida Orlando Judeh studies programs. They continue to find discoveries around Jerusalem, ancient sites, digging them up like crazy. What's going on there? It's unbelievable. Something is always going on when it comes to Jerusalem when it comes to the land, of Israel, just this last week as a matter of fact, there is a new report out. That details, a huge ancient complex that government complex that has been uncovered. This is twenty seven hundred years old from the days of the ancient Israelite King has a Kaya just recently unearthed near the US embassy in Jerusalem and containing. Gorge Jars broken up of course, but but bearing actual seal inscriptions in Paleo Hebrew that read Lamelo, which means to the king or four the king we're talking about the ancient king has Kaya. There's always something going on it seems isn't that interesting? It sure is let's talk a little bit about the Ark of the Covenant Ken so much ground to cover in the two hours with US explain first of all to those few people who may not know what the Ark of the Covenant is what it is. Well, my goodness beyond Indiana Jones, we've got the. Story. Of the ancient Israelites who according to the scriptural texts that came out of the land of Egypt back in the days of the Ferro, we're not sure which ferro it was maybe the Federal Ramsey maybe an early or pharaoh but that's the story and they went to the Great Mount Sinai where they encamped where Moses went up and received the ten commandments and brought them down and the ten commandments inscribed on stone tablets were housed in a special chest gold covered. Intricately crafted by the Israelites and they call it the Arts Ark of the covenant, the our own cordish in Hebrew the holy are. Covered with gold and resembling the kind of. Ancient chest, we would have found in Egypt. We actually have examples of such Egyptian chests and the Israelites made one fabricated one that looks strikingly like an Egyptian chest that that alone is evidence that indeed is realized may have lived may in fact, have resided in ancient Egypt and come out with a piece of furniture that look like where they had been living and they brought that chest that Arthur the. Covenant with them across the Sinai desert wandering for forty years, brought it under Joshua into the land of promise which the Israelites captured according to the Bible under their great commander Joshua who conquered Jericho with its walls falling down and wherever they went on their march of conquest. The ARC went with them as this to guarantees their victory it eventually, it was brought up to Jerusalem and housed in the Great Temple. Built by the venerable king. Solomon. And there it resided until the temple was destroyed in the year five, eighty, six BC or BC by the Babylonian invaders but some time in the midst of antiquity, the Ark itself was lost. No trace of there's no suggestion that the Babylonians when they destroyed the temple ever took the are with them, the the Prophet. Jeremiah. Made an intricate list of the various furnishings of the temple that were taken by the Babylonians, into captivity way back when the ARC was not among them, it just vanished at some point in the biblical record and has not surfaced. So where on earth might have ended up there all manner of stories perhaps, it was taken down to Ethiopia. The Queen of Sheba and that's one bit of folklore. But perhaps just perhaps it was lowered down into the subterranean cavities beneath the temple in what's called the Temple Mount and simply hidden protected there. And who knows it may still be there according to some intrepid archaeologist including various Israelis who have actually been on the track, the the tracing the Ark of the Covenant for for decades. Now. Why is it? So important today this quest defined it. Well, when we think of just how political things are my goodness we live in a political season don't win everything is politicized especially in the Middle East th. This is an incendiary piece of territory. It's like ready to explode at any minute I've got in fact a little quote from the chief justice of the Palestinians shape Taseer Mimi who said, and I'm quoting there was not Jewish civilization in Jerusalem many people lived there through the ages and they left some artifacts. But so what there is no proof of any Jews being here. And this is widely disseminated in the Middle East and believed that the the Jewish people just kind of showed up in the mid twentieth century and basically took Arab land. So imagine how political this gets on my God yeah. Yeah, and imagine if. Such an artifact we're actually uncovered. And then bear in mind that. Serious. In this. Most. Difficult Tinderbox. It cannot be conducted just because of the political considerations now. Think of a the agent city in the modern city of Jerusalem where you have this vast in warmest plateau, of limestone. Is Greater in size than the Great Pyramid as a matter of fact, and contain some of largest limestone ashes ever chiseled Enormous. On top of that great plateau used to stand according to at least Biblical tradition is a Jewish temple. It's not there anymore. What is there? Today is the third holiest site in Islam. Is called the mosque of Omar or the Dome of the Rock Hall Yeah It's the Great. Golden. Dome that people see and photos of Jerusalem. Gorgeous. Absolutely. Gorgeous. It's one of the most beautiful buildings in the world at least from my perspective, I've never seen anything. So spectacular as the Great Golden Dome of the Rock, why is it? So important? Why is it's the holiest site in? Islam. It's sits above the one. Piece of bedrock, it's a rocky outcropping on. This enormous plateau. Now King Herod the great extended what was a natural hill with this natural piece of of rock extended in all directions with as I mentioned this limestone plateau it's it's the size of twenty four football fields. It's that massive again in size larger than the great. Pyramid visa. There's this one piece of rock, which in Jewish tradition is the exact place where Abraham almost sacrificed his son Isaac. His hand being stopped at the last minute by an angel. Well in Islamic tradition, this is where the Prophet Mohammad. Actually came to Jerusalem miraculously in one night on a mystical steed named a Boorda who transported him. From Mecca, all the way to Jerusalem in a single night and the prophet set foot on this piece of rock whereupon, a ladder of white miraculously extended up into the heavens and the Prophet was brought up to meet a lot himself who took the heart out of his body and washed in pure water. Put back into his chest down. He went back on Alberta back to Mecca in a single night. That's why it's the third holiest site in Islam. That's why it is so very political and that's why it's impossible to conduct archaeology any serious archaeology in this area it's also the holiest site in Judaism it is it is it hasn't been threatened the be bought blowing up. Oh. Yes. As well. The Dome has been threatened on numerous occasions and how tragic it is because wouldn't it be nice as somebody said, if we could all just get along rights, wouldn't it be nice. Especially in the holy city where you have so many treasures literally. There's an area in old Jerusalem I used to live there It's about one square kilometer that's it, and it's called the. Basin, and in this Holy Basin, we've got the remains of the three great monotheistic civilizations of the Western World Judaism Christianity Islam. As we mentioned the mosque. We also have the Church of the holy. Sepulcher, in that same area as I could just walk over there and evening. That's the holiest site in Christianity and also the last vestige of the Temple Mount that great limestone plateau, with that, I've talked about. Containing the largest single limestone ash ller. In the in the entire Middle East one of the largest ever ever fabricated can lend. Let me ask you to far from that region where you were in Jerusalem was Jesus killed. He was crucified outside of Jerusalem. But how far away. Well, in those days, it was immediately outside of the Old City walls. The city wall of that day I should say today that wall was x has been expanded actually an Ottoman Turkish Times so that the the location of the crucifixion is today inside the Old City Wall of Jerusalem. Some people think well, that disqualifies it because as you mentioned these according to the Texas crucified outside will in antiquity it was exactly outside it's the place we call the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. It's all the way back to the mother of the Emperor Constantine. We're talking Roman, times Queen Delano, she went through the Middle East and found various places which she claimed were authentic Christian sites and the Church of the holy. Sepulcher. What what she created as the church is is one of them but all the archaeology points to this as in fact, the place. I it's. It's incredible. Because were nineteen, eighty, ninety, nine percents sure that it'd happened right there is it it's gotta be are are inspiring to be there. Absolutely, is I. It's a little bit Dank and musty these days because we've got an old and old romanesque piece of architecture, the church itself Romanesque, very dark and Dank, and some people find it rather depressing. But when you actually examine the archaeology, all comes packed the archaeology. We have first century tombs exactly there in the center of of the Church we have one. Then underground, we have authentic first century tombs. This had to be the place and also not far we have. A rather recent discovery just within the last couple of decades the place where Jesus of Nazareth a historical Jesus would have been tried by punch pilot. And people don't even recognize that it's there they walk right by and they don't know what they're looking at but it's it's a piece of rocky outcropping the dates from the days of King, Herod, the great we know exactly where punches pilot would've sat. On his his Pretoria miserable little thrown where Jesus would have been brought out of the remains of an ancient gate and Stood, exactly before him where the Roman soldiers would have been positioned I've been there many times and as I say people walked right by dried by it's part of the Old City Wall Jerusalem, they don't know what they're looking at. But that's the archaeology and that's why I wrote my new book. Who Holy. Land. I, the allergy meets geopolitics absolutely Middle East. Let's bring the name Rabbi Yehuda Getz who was he? Rabbi who dog gets here was a rather mystical rabbi. Modern Israeli. Rabbi he's was known as the rabbi, Emeritus of the Western Wall of people call it the Wailing Wall. This is the holiest site in Judaism to this day. The last vestige of that Great Temple Mount and Jews pray there today weep wail throw themselves against the wall I've been there of course, many times, and this is the rabbi who was in charge of the wall the wall now bear in mind that genucel was divided city. Between the Jewish. Side and the Arab eastern side from the Israeli war of independence in nineteen forty, seven, forty eight really when the British left. Right up until the Six Day War of nineteen, sixty seven. Arab east Jerusalem was in the hands of the Jordanians and there was an international border Jerusalem was divided city was like the Berlin villa's like Berlin yeah. It was really a horrific place of barbed wire land mines literally a friend of mine good friend of mine actually lost his leg when he stepped on one of those land raw east and West. Jerusalem. That's the reality of what the city was on. Until June, nineteen sixty, seven, six, Day War was Israel's Blitzkrieg essentially Israel conquered the Sinai peninsula, the Golan. Heights. Very Incendiary And the so-called West Bank Judea Samaria and that includes eastern. Jerusalem was united under Israeli control. The border was taken down the land mines all dismantled and has remained united city to this day back to rabbi gets suddenly Jews had access to their holiest site. Imagine from forty seven to sixty seven Jews could not get to the Western Wall spray. Literally. The city. Suddenly the Israelis have conquered. The whole of East Jerusalem united the city and Rabbi guesses there, and he's one of the first people to actually move his family back into East Jerusalem where Jews had been living for centuries and as and as you say though conquered that but they were attacked first they fought back. Well, as a matter of fact, yes, I, the Egyptians had blockaded the streets of Tehran, and basically blocked Israeli shipping in and out of the port city of a lot that's an active war. Then the Israelis initiated a first strike against the Egyptian airforce and basically blew them up on the ground and that's what initiated the actual war. Now, the Israelis then telegraph frantically to King Hussein of Jordan saying stay out of this. This is between us and the Egyptians and yes, the series we're involved well, the response of the Jordanians was they open cannon fire all along the border. With the fledgling state of Israel. Which? Actually was quite truncated in those days. You've got the Jerusalem got Galilee in the north and a little strip of territory between nine and eleven miles wide along the Mediterranean Sea that was the state of Israel, and now it's being attacked by the Jordanians. Well the Israelis responded and you're right. It was a defensive war and they took all of the territory up to the Jordan River this is ancient Judea and Samaria, and this is also part of my book. We have archaeology all over this region that proves that Jews were living here for Millennia as a matter of fact, and now they simply want to be able to live in holy areas again and yet it is so very political. So incendiary listen to more coast to coast. AM every weeknight at one am eastern and go to coast to coast am dot com for more. Hi I'm Devon Leary Carolina Barlow and we're here to tell you to dump him break up with your boyfriend and we want you to listen to our podcast true romance every week where we talk about our love lives and the lives of others please join our XS who we know. We'll also be listening like Kyle. Kyle, are you there? Hey, babe how's life? No, you look good though me Oh, my God sob please I haven't even gotten a haircut like three months. Okay. 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Is Chick-fil-A chicken? And your questions

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Is Chick-fil-A chicken? And your questions

"It does truth exists because you have faith. Does that make this book. Does God exist so when someone says there is no true if you apply the claim to itself what should you say is that true. They don't think Christianity through their talked out of it. You know why because they've never been talked into it cross examining skeptical and a PS vue. Welcome to cross examine with doctor. You can't serve both God and money apparently chick-fil-a fillet thanks. Maybe can it looks like ten point. Five billion dollars. A year is not enough for Chick-fil-a so they appear to have decided decided to serve money. Rather than God I say appeared to because maybe the reports aren't completely true. Maybe they are gonNA come. Uh Walk this back somehow. But according to recent reports is you know and by the way this is not going to be the topic of the program the complete topic. WE'RE GONNA go to on to other topics but we need to talk about this before we move onto other topics it looks like chick-fil-a has has become chicken their chicken. They're afraid need now of what the LGBTQ activists have done and they're buckling they're not supporting the Salvation Army anymore fellowship for Christian athletes athletes. Now why would they not support these groups anymore. Well there's several articles you can read about this right now. I'm GonNa read from Michael Brown's article on stream dot org stream by the way a great place to get good Christian conservative content stream dot org the the the article is called Chick-fil-a learns you can never appeased LGBTQ activists. Here's the section of a CHICK-FIL-A president and Chief Operating Officer. Tim Tasso Police not sure I'm pronouncing that name right anyway. C. E. COO. Tim explained quote. There's no question we know that as we go into new markets. We need to be clear about who we are there are lots of articles in newscast about chick fillet and we thought we needed to be clear. Talk about our message unquote. What does that mean anyway? Michael Brown goes on to say to be sure. Tess Apollo also announced no organization nation will be excluded from future consideration. faith-based or non faith based on quote but the message was loud and clear chick-fil-a needed to shed all the negative press and establish a new untarnished reputation based on its charitable contributions quote in the areas of Education homelessness and hunger. In other words CHICK-FIL-A has now said we're going to focus our charitable giving on education homelessness and hunger all right Newsflash chick-fil-a away isn't that exactly what the Salvation Army and the fellowship of Christian athletes do. I mean I know. Obviously chick-fil-a can give or not give to whomever it wants their. It's a free country. They don't have to give anybody they don't want to but don't say the reason you're not given to the Salvation Army or the fellowship of Christian athletes is because you want to focus. You're giving on exactly what those organizations are already doing. So they do certainly Salvation Orbi when I think of homelessness. That's the way I think about or feeding the I think of the Salvation Army. Don't you an education. That's what what fellowship of Christian athletes do so. There's something else going on here. Here's Michael Brown says about it. In the words of glad formerly the Gay Lesbian Alliance Alliance against defamation better named the Gay and Lesbian Alliance against disagreement. Here's what glad says quote if Chick-fil-a is serious about their pledge is to stop holding hands with divisive anti LGBTQ activists then further transparency is needed regarding their deep ties to organizations like focus on the family which exist purely to harm LGBTQ people's and family people and Families Unquote okay. This is just so ridiculous. I don't even know where to start. I mean I mean these. Lgbtq let me just not broad-brush everybody but does glad really think that focus on the family exists purely to harm LGBTQ people and families. Are you so narcissistic that you think. Focus on the family was started and currently exists to harm you. You really think that I mean focus on the family family was started in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven homosexuality was was hardly a blip on their radar or the country's radar in nineteen seventy seventy seven and and if you go to their website. Here's their mission quote to cooperate with the Holy Spirit in sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ raced with as many people as possible by nurturing and defending the God ordained institution of the family and promoting biblical truths worldwide on quote. There's not a word in here about. LGBTQ stuff this has to do with the Gospel now. Obviously Christianity has certain in beliefs regarding sexual behavior for the good of everybody. So that's an implication of Christianity. That may be an implication application of the dust bowl. That's not that's not why they exist. And by the way. Do you also think that South the Salvation Army exists as an anti LGBTQ organization nations. The Salvation Army began in eighteen sixty five in London. Now at eight hundred sixty five in the United States homosexual. Behavior was a felony in every state. Do you do you really think folks. Do you really think that the Salvation Army exists to to stop. LGBTQ policy is that where they exist now obviously since in the bedroom has been brought into the political arena by these LGBTQ activists. Then there's going to be political implications nations here but these organizations were not initiated and don't exist simply to resist certain political olitical desires of certain sexual groups. That's not why they exist now their beliefs may it may may may impact those things but they don't exist for those reasons. It amazes me that people are so myopic and so focused on themselves that they think anybody who disagrees. He's with them has come into existence purely to disagree with them now. Matt Stover writes on the Christian Post and the title of this article. Is Matt Stafford response to Franklin. Graham Chick-fil-a is now funding a pro. LGBT Q. Group group so Franklin Graham Whom I love by the way he doesn't he doesn't suffer fools and he and he has no problem speaking his opinion franken grandparents. Call Dan Kathy President of Chick-fil-a couple of days ago and said Hey. Are you gonNA still support a support Christian groups and Dan. Cathy affirmed firm that he would. And I don't know all the details of the conversation but Franklin Graham is basically saying. Hey don't worry about it Chick-fil-a 's okay well. According to Matt's Davor Matt's Taber says this in two thousand fourteen chick-fil-a decided to stop funding the Paul Anderson Youth Home because it was accused of being anti LGBT but it's still had funding commitments with the Salvation Army and the fellowship of Christian athletes both of which are also falsely accused of being anti LGBT because they have biblical policies on marriage and sex outside of marriage now that the funding commitment is expire. Chick Fillet says Oh no longer fund salvation army. FCA Even though the salvation. The army fits within. It's giving priority of funding organizations that provide housing and food banks and FCA provides education instead this coo. We'll tassell states chick-fil-a will now fun coveted house. International which is much smaller than Salvation Army in only thirty one cities an an LGBTQ activist in other words coveted house is is pro. LGBTQ behavior and tasks apple fullest speaking of funding covenant. House states quote. This provides more focused and more clarity UNQUOTE MATT's Dave says. At least he is correct. And this clarity. Eric reveals the betrayal the founder of Covenant House a Catholic Priest pedophile was sued for allegedly sexually abusing the youth who are seeking shelter conclude Covenant House proudly promotes. LGBTQ on its website referring to quote LGBTQ inclusion initiatives and even doing an inclusion collusion assessment at every one of its facilities company House also proudly supports The New York City Gay Pride Parade with its own float banners t shirts and Hashtags. It's recognized national funder of LGBTQ causes and Chick-fil-a supporting this group over the Salvation Army. Really we need some clarification and we'll get to it right after the break you're listening to. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist with Frank Turk. We're back in two minutes ladies and gentlemen. Can you help me with something. Can you help me get this podcast before more. People not only tell your friends about it but go up to tunes and put a five five star review on the. I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. podcast if you do that will help us move the podcast charts so more people will hear it. Thank you so much for partnering with me on. This beat atheist with Frank Turk actually live this morning here. Saturday the twenty third of November. It's rare we're live normally on the road but Maybe baby if we have time at the toward the end of the program get your phone call triple eight five eight nine eight eight forty triple eight five eight nine eight eight forty. We got a little bit more to cover and I got many questions that you've emailed me. I Want WanNa get to a few of them today if I can anyway. We're talking about at least initially here. In the first part of the program this whole chick fillet fiasco reading again. FERMAT's Davis article. This happens to be on the Christian in Post. where he says chick-fil-a dumps the Salvation Army? Because he wants to because it wants to expand into new markets and now shuns organizations the LGBTQ activists call falsely call anti anti LGBTQ and then turns one hundred eighty degrees to announce it will now fun Covenant House a radical LGBTQ activists organization that celebrates homosexuality transgender transgender gender. ISM in the entire political agenda and he says and Covenant House Does Not Stop With LGBTQ activism and also takes girls to abortion clinics six. It has the story linked about an about someone from coveted house taking a girl to an abortion clinic and this is this is what this is. What chick-fil-a wants to support now? Really we need some clarification and I hope Franklin Graham's right that everything's okay over there chick-fil-a I'm not exactly sure. Afa a American Family Association. And you're listening to the American family radio network right. Now has a right on their website a petition to if did you go to the page AF DOT net. You'll see it right there. CHICK-FIL-A and support for Christian charity sign our petition to chick-fil-a check it out if you feel like signing it it's almost up to one hundred hundred thousand people right now. Maybe the Great Tim. Wild men can go visit Dan Cathy over there at chick fillet and bring all these petitions to him and say. Hey what's going on now again. CHICK-FIL-A can do whatever it wants. It's a Free Country IT'S A. It's a private company. They don't have to give to anybody. But don't don't tell us that you're gonNA focus you're giving on hunger homelessness in education and then say that had salvation army and FCA don't fit those criteria. That's exactly what they do. There's something else going on here. Isn't there chick-fil-a. Well I hope you'll explain because because Christians for many years have looked to you as a kind of a beacon of how to do business in a hostile culture and you're checking all that for money really come on. You can't serve both God and money do what's right. Lead the results. To God Ben Shapiro also has an article just came out a couple of hours ago on Fox News. He says when the cultural left can't achieve what it wants through public mobilization it simply uses the power of government to blackmail L. those dislikes so despite the fact that chick-fil-a had never discriminated against gay customers. It would sell a chicken sandwich to anyone then Boston Mayor Thomas Menino. Who's since passed away? Promise to ban the franchise from the city then Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel quickly followed suit pledging to support and Alderman's plan to block locked Chick Fillet Mopani restaurant at O'hare Airport San Antonio recently blocked chick fillet from opening a restaurant and its airport. Let me stop right here. Thankfully the Texas assist governor stepped in and stopped that so I think they San Antonio can hat now have a chick-fil-a anyway and the airport in Buffalo New York followed suit San Jose California pledge not to renew Chick-fil-a when its lease ran out. I think that's not until two thousand twenty six. We'll see what happens there. And here's what Shapira goes on to say ours. First Amendment Culture is endangered injured when local governments are given the capacity to block businesses from operating. Not on the basis of business discrimination but on the viewpoint of the company's founder alone that's precisely what's happening here of giving to Christian charities now bars you from opening a restaurant at the airport are cultures beyond the point of no return. All right let me disagree. It was Shapiro right here. It's never beyond the point of no return because we're supposed to be salt and light and we're to continue to do what's right and lead the results to God. But I agree with Ben here. This is a problem and you need to have your voices heard all around the country ladies and gentlemen I mean if you can ban a company for for what they what the founders think about biblical marriage. This is trouble for everyone now as usual. The Babylon be puts it very well. They have a headline in here this morning. Actually it came out yesterday. Babylon be Christian. Satire Sight Brilliant says here's the headline chick-fil-a replaces cow mascot with golden calf. Here's here's the right up. chick-fil-a corporate headquarters announced Friday that the restaurant will be getting a new mascot in place at the traditional chick-fil-a cow a golden calf restaurant. The Patriots will be asked to dance around and worship a golden calf when they entered the restaurant to show their submission to the LGBTQ agenda. Take off the body piercings that you're LGBTQ GPD Cupola same sex partners wearing and bring them to me said Dan Cathy in a solemn ceremony. While creating the restaurants I ever golden calf this morning so all. The people did so and brought them to Cathy. He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a can of a calf fashion it with a plastic fork. This is your God people bullet Chick-fil-a who brings you great business and allows you to expand into other markets unquote. Then the people worship in a mighty dance and there was much rejoicing. At publishing time an angered Kane West had entered the restaurant and spotting the golden calf immediately threw down copies of Jesus is King and Jesus Gang do shattering them to bits. Ladies and gentlemen the Babylon be if you don't know about the Babylon Babylon Dot Com. Sometimes you can make a point better through humor than you can through the ranting and raving that people like me do so anyway check that out there at the Babylon be so chick fillet has decided that it's it's GonNa worship money rather than God. Apparently I hope that's not true. I'm I'm hoping they're going to walk this back and say no we we. We really didn't mean it. But let's is just pray that is the case another article on first things talks. AB- makes a couple of interesting points that I just WanNa bring to your attention Jake meador or is the author and he writes despite their remarkable growth and ability to thrive even in liberal bastions such as New York City. The company has decided to stop supporting in conservative organizations due to progressive pressure. Let me stop right here. Do you know that. I don't know four. Or five years ago when chick-fil-a opened their one of their first Manhattan Chick-fil-a Governor Governor Mayor De Blasio up. There said don't go there they're you know they're they're bigots and all this okay. There's still a line around the block get chick-fil-a fillet there at that location. Why because what they do is just too good? It's delicious people are GonNA. They're not gonNA stop going there because some mayor says don't do this and why would a mayor not welcome people who are always pleasant always kind serve. Everybody have a great product product because you don't agree with their political position on marriage which by the way they've been on the right side for five thousand years and same sex marriage it comes it comes. It starts up ten minutes ago and suddenly everybody must bow the golden calf here. Is that what you're saying mayor anyway. This Jake Jake Miller goes on to say. I suspect that this is because progressives unlike conservatives are willing to say quote we know what the good life is and what human beings ought to be and so we're going to push that on everybody now Christians Liberals Political and theological liberals they believe what they believe maybe to a stronger degree than what you believe. Why is that? I mean Jesus is the truth and if there is no god there is no ultimate truth or there is no ultimate there are no ultimate rights. And you've got people out there who have no foundation for their beliefs pushing them basically at the threat of the financial soared on everybody body else and yet you a Christian who know that Christianity true beyond a reasonable doubt who have god God literally come to Earth to add humanity to his deity and takes your punishment on himself. You're part of that belief system him and you think it's important enough to let other people know about the you. You don't think it's important enough to fight for. I don't mean picking up swords. Don't get me wrong. I mean at least verbally. You don't think that's important enough. The truth is not important enough to persuade other people to at least know it and encourage them to accept it and yet you've got this group of people people out there who have no foundation for their beliefs. They have to steal from God in order to come up with rights at all. They're more vocal and and more persuasive and more effective than you are and you have the truth. Shame on you shame on me. Shame on us. Well there's a lot more to cover ladies and gentlemen. There's those those articles you can look at and we'll see what happens with regard to Chick-fil-a Again you can go sign a petition at A. Fa Dot net if you want chick fillet to you. Want to smoke out. CHICK-FIL-A say okay. You need to clarify what's going on here. And why are you supporting this Covenant House Place which is actually actually supporting behaviors that Jesus and the apostles and of course God would disagree with because as those behaviors hurt people and are against God's design for this universe. Why would you support those things? Chick-fil-a we we want some clarification. We've supported you and we want. We want what's best for everybody. And the Christian worldview is what's best for everybody eighty and yet you're ready to chuck that for more money so what you're doing let us know just so we know where everybody buddy stands all right now. I just got back yesterday from a conference out in California called the Evangelical Theological Geological Society also also a parallel organization called Evangelical Philosophical Society. And it's a group that meets about meets every year in in a different city and it's basically where scholars come together and give papers and have conversations. It's a complete nerd out event. You have people reading their papers. You have a source of you have probably five hundred different lectures. You can go to over the three days and if you're a nerd you'll love it so I go to this thing when I can. And one of the one of the presentations I went to was supposed to be a panel donald discussion on theistic evolution. And in this panel discussion were three or four theistic evolutionist piece of people that claim to be Christians Christian scholars allers who believe in evolution. And then Stephen Meyer of the Discovery Institute you guys know Stephen. Meyer had him on the program. Many Times Paul Nelson also of the Discovery Institute. And of course we mullane Craig the Great William Lane Craig and they had this discussion on the and it was supposed to at least in my view. Anyway cover two basic questions number. One is macaroni evolution compatible with scripture and question number two does the scientific perfect data support macaroni evolution. And if it doesn't why should we care about the first question does mackerel is Mak revolution compatible with scripture. Well you won't believe what happened here in this in this session. It was three and a half hours long. And I'll give you kind of the At the two minute summary of it right after the break you're listening to. 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Org as we come into Thanksgiving Week and it has to do with being thankful you realize that it's impossible to be happy or content. If you're not grateful if you're you're not thankful and so just keep that in mind. We have a lot to be thankful for. And if you ever want to achieve any sort of contentment pettman happiness. You have to be grateful. You have to be thankful Paul Talks about this in Romans chapter one that when we suppress the truth and try and go well our own way and we worship the created rather than the creator. And we're not thankful we don't give thanks. We're on the road to destruction so just keep that in mind so much to be thankful for anyway. Let me go back to the meeting. I just began to speak about before the break. Down at in San Diego at the Evangelical Theological Society Evangelical Philosophical Society. It was a meeting on Mac Revolution and as I said they at least we thought they were trying to deal with two questions as Mak Revolution compatible with scripture and does the scientific data support Mak Revolution. Well to be honest with you. The theistic evolutionist didn't say much being it was it was it was rambling and they tried to generally mm say that the answer to number one is Mak Revolution compatible with scripture. They tried to say that it didn't really give any solid reasons and by the time this whole thing was over over nobody had really given any evidence for theistic evolution for macaroni of any kind. I I was there to hear number two. Does the scientific data support Mac Revolution. Now Stephen Meyer. Who had twenty minutes to speak as he always does book eloquently about why a Mac revolution is not viable and the one thing that he tried to talk about more than anything else? Was the fact that mutations that could bring about new body plans are lethal any mutation. That happens early on on in the embryonic process or early on in a in a creature's life that mutation is the the only Kinda mutation that could theoretically create some kind of body change. Later mutation succumb later in the development process will will not give you any kind of new body plan. The problem is all of the mutations that occur early in the development of a creature tend to be lethal so the creature won't live which stops evolution right there. If if the thing's dead it can't go on. There are many other reasons to believe that. Macaroni evolution is not plausible. There's evidence against it. This is just one the fact. Act that early mutations necessary for a change in body plans are lethal. Meyer also pointed out that three years ago November twenty sixteen the Royal Royal Society on an a very agust scientific affiliation out in the UK started by Isaac Newton. They gathered people together to try and come up with a new theory of macaroni because the current theory of mutating the genetic code. You're doesn't work. It doesn't bring about new life forms and so he pointed out that you have all these these evolutionist these are people who are many of them are atheists but they're admitting that the entire mechanism that evolutionist point two doesn't work. It doesn't give view new life forms and so if the atheists are saying Mac revolution doesn't work. Why would any Christian say we need to adopted opted into Christianity or we need to somehow figure it out if it's compatible with scripture? It's not even true. So why would you say. Why don't we see if we could get heliocentric them and get that theory and start supporting that theory and then see if it's compatible with scripture? The idea that the sun goes around the earth. Why don't we? Why don't we see if that's compatible with scripture? Nobody's doing that. Why because we know that's not the case? There's no reason to see if it's compatible with scripture but I submit to you ladies and gentlemen you can make a better case from scripture that the sun goes around the earth then you could that macro lose true and yet you've got people trying to claim that theory which doesn't even work doesn't have scientific evidence behind it arguably it has evidence against it. They're trying to get. They're trying to get Christians to support it when it it doesn't even the scientific data doesn't support. Why would you do that? Paul Nelson also got up and he was very clear and said that naturalism is the real problem. I'm here the reason people are trying to support. Macaroni evolution is because they have a philosophical bias against any kind of intelligent. 'cause we lane Craig also gave a presentation there and he was kind of just trying to define what Mak Revolution was and he at one point. I'm not a theistic evolutionist. Which relieve a lot of people because people we're thinking he was going that direction he's not anyway when the QA started one person asked if the evolution do they believe that the genealogy in the gospel of Luke is true which starts with Adam and goes through all the way up to Jesus? Do you think that's true. And most of them wouldn't answer which is telling and I had the opportunity to ask a question. And here's the question I asked. I said when Richard Dawkins was asked by Philip Johnson. What's your best evidence for Mac? Revolution Lucien Philip. Johnson asked that of Dawkins Dawkins replied this way. He said the reason we know we are all ancestrally related. We know that evolution lucians true is because we have a common genetic code. And I said we'll talk could be right it could be evidence of a common ancestor but could also be evidence of a common creator common designer what evidence what is the best evidence for macro evolution that could also be interpreted as evidence for a common designer leaner. I asked that question. Well you should have seen the blank stares all the theistic evolutionist. None of them wanted to try and take on the question. One of them did and he went went on to say well broken genes look like it's it's good evidence for common ancestry anyway. Broken genes there are broken genes in humans and maybe broken genes in apes so they must share a common ancestor. Otherwise we'd have to believe that God put these broken genes individually in these different kinds of creatures and it seems it's more plausible to suggest that no they share a common ancestor. That's why they have these broken jeans and and Steven Maier jumped in and said well. We're looking at one of those broken convenes right now and we don't think it's actually broken. We think it was designed that way and that was it is the best evidence you have for Mac. Revolution Solution suspected broken genes and even if that were evidence for a common ancestor. By what mechanism do we get all of these new life forms naturalistic mechanism. You could say this could point to a common ancestor. Okay maybe it does. Maybe it could. But what mechanism gives you. That had no answer was forthcoming. Now there's more on this that we're GonNa talk about a little bit later. But I just wanted to give you that kind of of five minute. Overview of what happened there and the bottom line to the entire thing is the fact that nobody gave a word of evidence other than what I asked them to for theistic evolution macro evolution. Not a word at three our our discussion no evidence. Why do you think it's true because some naturalists say it's true and even there doubting it anyway? We'll keep a sharp by what's going to happen here. I think the intelligent design people are starting to make some headway. Thanks to people like Steven Maier. Paul Paul Nelson and Discovery Institute. But we'll keep an eye on all right. Let me answer a couple of questions and then I'll go to the phones triple eight five eight nine eight forty triple eight five eight nine. Eight eight forty got a question. Russian email questions from Daniel Andrews Ni- very complimentary things. But I want to get right to the question. Thanks for your compliments Daniel. But here's what he says. I'm reading I don't have enough faith to be an atheist and I'm reading the chapters giving evidence for the accurate history of the New Testament one hundred percent believe in the accuracy of the New Testament. My question is this when we are discussing with skeptics that the new testament has many more manuscripts in many any other historical document with homer's Iliad being a distant second. How do we respond to the claim? Yeah but the ILIAD isn't proclaiming to be the only the absolute truth leading to eternal life so the number of manuscripts is really irrelevant. Just curious how you how you would impact that okay. Here's how I pack it. The number of of manuscripts doesn't necessarily tell you whether or not what set in the manuscripts is true. It just helps you discover what the original New Testament said you see. There are two questions that have to be decided here. Daniel one is. Do we have an accurate copy of the New Testament Documents Kamenz. That's question one. That's what the manuscript evidence does question too is did the original New Testament. Tell us the truth or do the original New Testament testament documents. Tell us the truth. That's a completely different question. So the question with regard to the number of manuscripts is just helping US establish establish that we do have an accurate copy of the original documents. Now we can have an accurate copy of ally right. That's certainly possible to figure out whether it's a lie. Why are not we gotta go to the next question? And that is our the New Testament documents telling us the truth. And we've done that quite a bit. On this program we have ten lines of evidences new New Testament. Writers are telling us the truth so I don't have time to go through all that here but the manuscript the number of manuscript copies. No one is saying that because we have all these manuscript descript copies that everything. The New Testament says is true. It's just telling us what the New Testament originally said because we can compare all these manuscript copies and recreate the original with more than ninety eighty nine percent accuracy so the question is is it really true. And that's a completely other questions so in a certain sense the atheist or the skeptic bringing this this up is missing the point. The point isn't whether or not it's true. The point is do we have a copy of what the original said. Okay Jol asked this question. I've been wondering if the events described in the exodus account or supported by any other ancient accounts especially gyp. Shen seems to me that such eventually be recorded ah would be recorded in Japan. Not just Jewish documentation. Here's what we right now. Don't have enough faith to be an atheist. We covered this there Joel. So she wanted to further. You can go there where I say this Dr Goshen. I say this the Old Testament tells us one embarrassing gaffes after another most other ancient historians. Avoid even mentoring mentioning unflattering historical events for example. There's been nothing found in the records of Egypt about the excess leading some critics to suggest the event never occurred but what critics expect. Here's what writer. Peter Feinman imagines a press release from Pharaoh might say quote spokesman from Ramsey's the Great Pharaoh Pharaoh the supreme ruler of Egypt son of RAW. Before whom all true before. Before whom all tremble in in all blinded by his brilliant today announced that the man Moses this is kicked his royal rear end for all the world to see those proving that dot is y'all way and the two thousand year old culture of Egypt is alive film at eleven unquote. Of course no press secretary for Pharaoh would admit such an event. The Egyptian silence on the exodus is understandable however by contrast when the Egyptian scored a military victory they went to press and they exaggerated greatly and this is apparent from the oldest known reference to Israel outside the Bible. It comes from the grandma and Grandma Granite Monument in the funerary temple of the Farrell Murder Nepta in thieves. And what it says is telling tallying. I'll get to it right after the break you're listening to. 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Don't the Egyptians report the exodus because it was too embarrassing and I was saying just before or the break that when they did have a military victory the the Egyptians proclaimed it and there's manip- to Stella also called the Israel's Stella which is basically a stone monument with inscriptions on it and the monument boasts about the military victory of Pharaoh in the highlands of Canaan claiming quote claiming that quote Israel is laid waste. It seed is not. His seat is not and historians date this battle. Twelve oh seven BC which confirms that Israel must have been in the land by then in order to be defeated by Egypt and we know that according to Biblical dating the exodus took place about four forty or so BC's so this is two hundred or so years later and so anyway. They're not going to say anything about it because it would. It would be embarrassing. The Bible unlike other ancient writings reports all the embarrassing details and stories surrounding it supposed- heroes which is one reason. I think it's telling the truth because typically that doesn't happen by the way there's is a lot of evidence that the exodus did take place and the the Israelites wandered but they wandered on the Saudi peninsula. Not the Sinai Peninsula. You can look up. You can look up. A website called patterns of evidence in my friend. Dr Bob Cornu has also done some research in on this and Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. Not the Sinai Peninsula. I don't have time to get into all that right now. We've talked about it before maybe had another point. We'll get into it some more. But that's the answer to that Joel. So thanks for your question and ensure he's been waiting long enough there in Tennessee. Shirley you're on with Frank Turk. Read ahead Ma'am how are are you. Thank you so much for taking my call. I really appreciate your show. Got Three quick points but I wanna say we know Solomon Kamori exist exist because we got plenty of brimstone out there and You know I've never been a big fan of Chick-fil-a That's just me. I know a lot of African Americans loved. I never did The chicken with always to faulty for me and number two. I never saw where the organization did anything but gave a little money here there. They didn't get all into events and really seem to go out for events like some other that are Christian events like some other companies to and the devils logic makes no sense anyway and I wanted to share this. How can people pharisees robots? Satan believe that they could kill a man who's been raising people from the day. I never understood that and number two. How can these people think that they're going to just be ruptured up out of here and never see any of the problems that will come and the terminals and the trials for Christians? How can they think that? When the Bible's clear that many Christian has will so they're thinking that the Holy Spirit will be removed from this place? I don't believe that I don't believe when the East if he's GonNa move bet which was held its. He's talking about moving the four angels so that the winds are strike surely as surely as as you know. Christians have different views on Eschaton and I know people waste smarter than me that have studied this and they come to opposite conclusions so I just know we win in the end not on the planning committee among the welcoming committee. Okay so when Jesus comes back I'll welcome him but when he's coming back only he knows but anyway your final point was what and my final point is. I just believe that it's time for us to has you say focus on Christ really. I'll hearts in lies together. Share Air With other people the Gospel absolutely surely and they see that's part of the problem. There are people who are non Christians who are sharing their worldview view more effectively than we are. We're they're sharing their faults worldview and they're stealing writes from God in order to say that that they have certain rights and yet God doesn't exist when nobody has any rights of God doesn't exist yet we're not sharing the truth that God does exist and he loves everybody. He doesn't love everything we do but he loves loves everybody in Everybody Needs His grace whether you're Lgbtq or heterosexual we all need. God's grace and that's the message we should bring everywhere anywhere. Thanks for your call. Shirley appreciate it. Let me go onto Sarah listening in. Are you in Iowa. Sarah Oh yes I'm in Iowa. Go ahead Ma'am how how you doing. Hi I'm doing well and thanks for your show and thanks for having me on the with the The CHICK-FIL-A Situation Association. I heard it and my heart sank. I'm not I don't I agree with really it's not my favorite food of our family had frequented there just because we like their stand and and My have four daughters. My youngest is nineteen freshman in college. And she's been fighting the fight there and hope I don't okay talked about but she When I told her I told her yesterday morning she hadn't really heard we hadn't had chance to talk about that issue that the week and I said nobody's boycotting and she's not really big on quite cutting but she goes we should and She she said this is a betrayal and I just think I see her like she wrote her freshman. I say on might choose committed to Christ. Excuse me anyway I just I just see her out there on the frontlines Dan Dan Cathy and that organization betray their stand. and Um well I agree with you. And that's why I'm hoping that they're going to clarify and walk back This misunderstanding if it is a misunderstanding it doesn't appear to be a misunderstanding because if they are given to Covenant House and They Know What Covenant House else does then it's a pro. LGBTQ group that is actively trying to advance that political agenda and it is actually affirming this on biblical unnatural behavior. It's affirming the behavior even now. Let me let me be very clear. All people regardless of how they self identify are made in the image of God so we need to treat everybody with respect. We're not talking about people here. We're talking about behaviors behaviors. And if you're going to support certain behaviors that are against what Christ wants for us. How do you call yourself a Christian organization? Why would you call yourself a Christian organization? Why would you on one hand say that you're you're Christian and you'll love everybody and yet on the other hand support? Something that you we know is not loving according to Christ. Why would you do that? I agree a hundred percent and so hopefully they're going to change. The only time will tell I'm going to give them at least some of the benefit of the doubt right now and see if they make any statement this week but I just I'm going to be signing the petition to encourage them to yes. Afa Dot Net Afa dot net. And God bless you for bringing up those girls and making them strong to stand for the truth now. Everyone knows they're going to be persecuted for doing that. But that's what Jesus promised us. That's that's the kind of comes with the territory so so continue to affirm your daughter and what she's doing. Thank you so much Sarah. God bless all right. Jim Got just a minute. So we'll try and squeeze it in. How are you? I'm doing good. I'll try to make it. who had ever heard this question address but I'm just saying that there was always potential for sin and the beginning of Of Creation. One is to stop in to who can really occur in heaven is still have Angels apparently angels had the potential for the beginning. I would think that that potential still existed as well as man and I know we don't want to be a robots Metron up and heavens. Well we you will have free. Will I need some reassurance that the Senate while being wiped out so to speak. I don't know why wouldn't that. Yeah it's an excellent question. Can we'll be able to send in. We'll we'll be able to send in heaven now. Angels are different from human beings. Angels are a different kind of being. You know. They're not they're not material beans immaterial beans and it seems to me there. It had to be some what we would call epoch MC distance between angels in God before the fall otherwise if they were in the complete presence of God there wouldn't have been a fall so they had to have at least as some distance between God could give them the freedom to choose right but it seems to me that once we get to heaven. We'll still have free will but there will be no need or desire to send why because the reason we send now is. We're trying to get good things but we're taking shortcuts to get them in. Heaven Vendor will be no need to try and get something we don't have because we'll all we'll have everything we need and we'll see God for who he is so it seems to me there won't be any any impetus impetus to send. It won't be any desire to send yet. We'll still have free will. which will it will allow us to love? God for who he is and it without free will. Obviously we can't love so I think we will have free will and heaven but it won't result in in San because there will be no need to send because we we'll have everything we want. Thank you for the call. Jim and other Christian Theologians might say Oh we don't have free will and have it. I I actually think we will. And and now we send to get good things in fact when you if you think about it the reason you sin usually for one or three reasons or combination of the three sex money or power are relationships finances or power prestige while there's not gonna be any need for any of that in heaven. You won't lack any of that so there will we need to do such a thing and you'll see God for who he is. I John Three talks about. Basically the beef beatific vision. We'll see God for who he is and we'll be fulfilled so no we won't send in Heaven our friends great being with you and we'll talk more next week. I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving remember. You cannot be happy or content without being grateful if you are grateful. It's really hard to complain too. Isn't it so be thankful for what Christ has done for us and share that with others. God bless you next week. If you've benefit from this this podcast help others find it. Just go to itunes or any other podcast service. 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20: American Jews and the Israeli Settler Movement with Sara Yael Hirschhorn

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20: American Jews and the Israeli Settler Movement with Sara Yael Hirschhorn

"Welcome to Jewish history matters. I'm Jason LA steak, and I'm joined today by Sarah L Hirschhorn to discuss her book city on a hilltop, American Jews and the Israeli settlers movement. Sara Hirschhorn is visiting assistant professor in Israel. Studies at northwestern university's crown center for Jewish and Israel studies today, I'll be talking with Sarah about city on a hilltop which received the twenty eighteen choice award as a finalist for the Samuel prize in Jewish literature city on a hilltop presents a fascinating study of American Jewish settlers in the occupied. Territories the West Bank, and before that in the sign up, and it's LA and the Gaza Strip she argues that the nineteen sixty seven six day war, presented an important moment that catalyzed the immigration or Aliyah of many American Jews to Israel, many of whom ended up settling in the occupied. Territories. And through a series of case studies, she sheds light on a group which today constitutes about sixty thousand Jews out of a total of about four hundred thousand. And settlers total. This means that fifteen percent of Israel Jewish settlers are of American origin, which is far disproportional to the number of American Jews in Israel as a whole what Sarah presents in her book is quite fascinating. Because tells us something counter intuitive, the American Jews that she's writing about is dead of being paragon of conservativism turn out to have been liberals in America as a result becauses us to question some of the assumptions that we might have about this group and also to think through what caused them to take the path that they did as she argues in a certain way, they tried to bring about the dream of a city on a hill. So to speak in Israel as a city on a hilltop. You should really check out the book, and you can read the introduction, which is linked in the show notes or at Jewish history dot FM slash settlers. And you can also find. Sara on Twitter at Sarah Hirschhorn one in any case today. Sarah, and I are going to be talking about the book and the big questions it raises for how we understand Israel American jewelry. And this group of settlers why so many is rarely Jewish settlers are of American origin. How we can understand them as real people and not as caricatures and how looking closely at this group can help unsettle assumptions or preconceived notions about the nature of the settlements in the occupied. Territories. Anyway. Hi, sarah. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you for having me on Jason. Of course. I really enjoyed reading this book. And I think that one of the things that it's really so great is that it's very personal. This is a topic where you're dealing with tens of thousands of people, but you're able to put it into very personal terms. And I think that it really comes through in the opening of the book very strongly because you open the book, and you also close it by talking about this one family, the chickens who kind of characterize the phenomenon of American Jewish settlers in the territories. And was interesting about them in particular is that they illustrate one of the things I think is a really important point in the book that this is a history that is about individual life choices that people make men. It's also, you know, the because also an attempt I think to understand how people from the same origin, sometimes take very different paths. One of the things that that. I thought was really quite interesting, and you noted in the introduction to the book was that you're from western mass right from Springfield. And so as you want to check in one of the in the members of this family, and so it really raises some really interesting questions because in a certain way again, like I think that it really highlights the way in which this history is very personal. You know, it has to do with. How do you get from point a to point B? And so I guess what that might lead to to ask them to think about is. How might you characterize the kind of ideological and personal paths of the American Jewish settlers that you're studying, and how do you comprehend or or trying to understand the vastly different paths that people from the same or similar cultural or political millions might take over the course of their lives? All right. So I mean, first of all the story of Yona mock chicken was an important one for me, and I can tell you that I put a lot of effort into tracking down market shake gain. And getting her to agree to speak with me because it seemed quite poignant to me to illustrate the story of someone who came from my hometown who shared many aspects of my own upbringing. If maybe, you know, my case generation later, but Yunos more or less contemporary of my father, and to try and understand how they made, you know, this this journey from what I called Springfield to settlement and reflecting on some of the choices that I've made in my own life. And how I see they are story. But I think it's very hard to be quite so reductionist about the story of over sixty thousand Jewish-American immigrants and to say that, you know, basically for every two settlers there's three stories as you know, as the phrase might go in Jewish life. I am and the story is really been about the polyphony voices and the various. Choices, and ideological views of this cohort that certainly share a great deal in common, but have gone in many different directions over the past fifty years. So when you talk about this publicity of voices, what are some of the the varying cords so to speak that have been struck in terms of the varying approaches the way in which people are sort of following all these different paths high. So I tried to stress the book that people chose to make their life in the settlements because they were evaluating not only ideological choices, but also associational and lifestyle factors in their alternate settlement decision and each individual really gave that constellation of factors. The different wait for some. I'm they would live in only the most ideological settlements in the occupied. Territories and felt that their self realization project was to take part in the most hardcore communities within the larger Sadler anchor price. They like the chickens who wanted to spend their life though, that was perhaps something of an accident in the middle of the city center of Hebron, which is probably the most highly contested settlement in the occupied. Territories today. Others had, you know, different routes to find themselves, and there are self realization project in the settlements some came because they're brother-in-law or their friend or someone they knew for the United States happen to be living in a particular settlement. Then they later made their home there and made a different kind of ideological contribution. Once they are there. Others weren't willing to sacrifice the kind of lifestyle amenities that they had once shared in the United States in order to make their own contribution to the settlement enterprise. So say a settlement like at fraud, which I profiled at length was a place where people could have messianic, redemption alongside million dollar mansions and for them, the quality of life, and the way they were gonna live their life. Especially in a settlement that often resembles a kind of Tony suburb in the United States was equally important. As the kind of ideological value of the project that they wanted to have, you know, basically as one settlers said to me, she frankly, really just wanted to have know her bagel and eat it too as you might say. And that was something that she could find in a settlement like at fraught. This is really great on trying to understand the nuances and the complexities of the reasons why people become settlers, I think it's very easy to to paint them with a very broad stroke to see them in in a way that is is perhaps over simplified, and this is something that I think comes across release strongly in your book, right that you are trying to unsettle some of the preconceptions about the ideological and political commitments of the people who settled in the West Bank and the other occupied. Territories. I think the one of the most interesting claims that you make in the book is the idea that that many of these settlers in the occupier. Territories were not conservative soda. So to speak, but actually liberal at least in their lives in the US, you describe them, and I'll quote from the book where you say that they are or they were at least quote youthful idealistic intelligent and season. Liberal American Jewish Zionist political activists who were eager to apply their values and experiences to the Israeli settlers enterprise. So I'm really curious about this right in what ways did your encounter with the the Jewish settlers in the occupied. Territories surprise you. Or otherwise, confirm what you might have otherwise suspected, you know about the motivations and the ideologies and the associations on affiliations of this group of people. I think that the real theme of the book is what I call the clash between liberal values and set the realities especially in the wake of the first intifada where many Jewish American immigrants who had moved to the occupant. Territories in the years before the real or option of violence in the West Bank and elsewhere, you know, had to reckon with a real kind of clashes civilizations. I ended away between sort of the world that they had come from and one that they in many ways still clung to and the realities of their project and their ideological commitments. It certainly came as a as a surprise to me, although very much later became part of the. As you say, the kind of unsettling stereotypes in this book to learn that many of these Jewish-American immigrants who are of a nineteen sixties generation. I'm, you know, the largest group Jewish-American imigrants not only to the territories. But to Israel Palestine were generally came in the wake of the nineteen sixty seven more and to try and understand that they were very much pardon parcel of their Jewish-American generation and had been there were credit voters and active in pathetic to the social. They're progressive social movements day like the civil rights struggle in the anti-vietnam protests, and in many ways were trying to translate some of their liberal heritage. And in many cases, liberal discourse, which we could speak about a little bit morbid later, the Israeli settlers enterprise, and they didn't necessarily see themselves as leaving this kind of progressive heritage on the other side of the green line on the moment that they crossed into the occupied. Territories were rather. They saw themselves as applying the values. They have brought with them to the United States to a new project. Act over the remind the question was is how did they ultimately square the circle as I said prior to the I thought, oh, perhaps that dilemma wasn't quite as pressing on the consciousness of Jewish American immigrants who like many generations of sinus blindness perhaps didn't necessarily recognize the ultimate clash between initiatives population. And a group of in a self consciously Jewish activists, but later as the settlement project grew and the resistance to the settlement project, intern grew and they had to begin to confront these clashes between their backgrounds and their current activities. So how is that you have come to understand and to explain this clash between what you call the liberal persona. Many of these people and the fundamentally illiberal project of the settlements of the occupied. Territories. Well, I mean, I think for many of the readers of this book. I imagine yourself included that you probably found it quite dissident to think that these were people who had been, you know, marching for civil rights in the United States and ultimately involved in a project that at least most of the international community considers to be denying others rights as a nation, and as a people, but I don't think that's necessarily how Jewish American settlers came to find themselves in the occupied. Territories to begin with. And certainly not the way they at least saw their project initially. This was a project in their mind of self realization and one of struggling for their own civil rights as Elliot Birnbaum who was one of the founders of the West Bank settlement of Toco said to me, you know, for years he had been marching on the streets of the United States for the rights of in as he called it. You know, African Americans in the eskimos and everybody else, and he started to ask himself. You know, why are two I struggling for anything Jewish and he saw his participation. Within the Israeli settlers, momentous part of this larger civil rights struggle for Jews, obviously for the Palestinians. They would see this differently for me, one of the things that is so exciting about this book is that I think it contributes something to a broader sort of revision that we need to think about about how we understand the nature of Zionist project because I think like you said for many people, they they might sort of -ssume that, you know, especially kind of from the perspective of the present moment that the settlement project was fundamentally illiberal from its very beginning. Right. And they might also assume sort of thinking about some historical concepts like the idea of the negation of the diaspora that people who are making their way from say, the Jewish community in the United States to the state of Israel. You know, we're in a certain way trying to reject their identities right or their dia affiliations. And he's also a tendency I think to think about immigration certainly to lend visceral in a you logical terms that people throughout the history of the Zionist movement move. There too for the purpose of pursuing an ideological objective. And I think that one of the things that is really quite interesting is that I think that we need to rethink all these issues because fundamentally most people when they migrate they're not just doing it because they have some ideological aim. But they're doing it for for for all sorts of personal reasons. People in Israel may have talked about the idea of the negation of the Astra Sri Lanka loot. But in reality, they were not doing that. And we see this. I think throughout the history of Zionist movement. That broadly speaking, this is not just in the case of American Jews Jews who migrated to Palestine hope that they might put into practice there all sorts of political and social dreams or utopia that they had about the places where they came from that they might have felt were impossible to achieve their, you know. So for instance, you look at like the socialist Zionists who made their way to Palestine, right? You know, they they hope to create a, you know, socialist state or society, they're in the same way. So I think that what you're doing here is really telling. A similar kind of story, right? That the Jews from America who made their way to Israel in the aftermath of the sixty seven war. They were not trying to run away from their American identity, but they were really bringing with them in some perhaps similar ways. I think that's true. But I also think that American Ali our American immigration to Israel is a bit exceptionalism. We've long known, you know, in the scholarship that many of, you know, Israel successive ways of immigrants during the issue for not all great, great, scientists since early many of them were not code carrying sinus. They were people who are motivated by poverty by lack of opportunity by the destruction of Jewish life in other parts of the world or the opportunity to continue to contribute to communities that read that they had really called home, especially if we think about the story of mies Rothley jury who were really I think reluctant sign as who came only after nineteen forty eight because of a deterioration of. Relations between Israel and the Arab world. But I think Americans Zionists and more broadly, western privileged Zionists have come to Israel, mostly out of ideological conviction. But the question is I guess what kind of ideology are they're bringing and how much are they leaving behind American immigrants after nineteen sixty seven also came to Israel in a time where they weren't necessarily forced to leave as much behind as immigrants were previous generations state of Israel had already been around for twenty plus years and some of the requirements of absorption into the Israeli identity or Israeli loss. I think had slackened bit by that time. Unlike those who came during the shoe for ask to really, you know, take part as ideological pioneers in the sign as project, and even means Rockley immigrants who were asked to leave behind very important parts of their culture, language and community in order to be fully acculturated into a white Ashkenazi. The Israeli society American immigrants after the nineteen sixty seven war. In fact, you know, maybe didn't meet such stringent demands by his Rayleigh culture to leave as much behind. They were also able to introduce more of their value system into Israel, just because the change in the way Israel had begun to look at immigrants and also because Americans like Brits and other Anglos are bringing you know, skills and capital that many of the previous generations of immigrants to Israel were not as lucky to bring with them. But certainly I want to stress this is a transnational story. And that this is part of a tradition of American Jewish history in American Jewish liberalism as much as that of Israeli history, and politics, I think like what you just said that this is a book that is just as much about America and about American jewelry is very clear just from the title to some extent. Right. You know, where you talk about the idea? Of city on a hilltop, right? This very clearly makes you know reference to American history as well on about kind of this question of merging together. You know, how we understand this history of liberalism in America, and how we can talk about kind of the limits of liberalism in both the US and also within the state of Israel when you talk about this population. Yes. And also, I think in the United States both amongst jury and more Darlie within the American population as a nod to the kind of history of US foreign policy over American studies. I also wanted to gesture to the idea that these Jewish American immigrants are foreign policy actors abroad. I'm and they're falling in a larger tradition of the post Vietnam generation in practicing human rights at home, and perhaps, you know, practicing imperialism abroad. So in that sense. I think we have to ask ourselves, you know, how much of this story is truly a Jewish story. And how much of the story is an American story on. That's that's been one of the tensions is really animated the book. Yeah. Absolutely. I want to delve into the stories of these people in their communities because I think it's important to to try to understand, you know, in very deep way in what's going on here. So I guess one way to begin to think about this set of issues is when you were working on this project, and as you as you talk about it and the way that you engage with it. You know, how is it that that you think that we can that we can understand these people the settlers as real people with full lies with full personal lives and motivations and not as caricatures learned a lot of them this book about, you know, the nature in theories of historical empathy. And I think for various reasons, it's very difficult to apply those concepts two Israeli settlers, and to various ethnic and immigrant populations within within the Israeli southern with it because you know, I think that there's a lot of suspicion that. Historical empathy is equivalent to political sympathy and part of I think the discipline of this book was trying to divide those two concepts of as possible to put ourselves in the shoes of historical actors without necessarily tricking the Kool-Aid of their political ideology and distress that. In fact, is really important part of what historians need to do today in working with a whole variety of controversial groups that these are group's that merit historical treatment, you know, a deep and rigorous inquiry into their behavior, despite the fact that you know, we may have many questions about their political behavior. And in some ways, the book is trying to take a step back and learn as well as contribute to broader understanding of how to historians study controversial populations one that continued to influence our foreign policy. Our communities are understanding of. Global events without slipping into a polemic. I think this is a really important distinction right between historical empathy and political sympathy as you put it, and I think that there is a an important resonance say it within our own contemporary moment, you know, with how we talk about American politics, for instance. Absolutely. I mean, many of the same debates have come up about talking about sort of the the new the new right in the United States. And I remember the New York Times ran an article sort of a deep dive into, you know, who some of the actors in the latest protests have been there was a furor about this article. Because the understanding was is how dare the New York Times, you know, treat these people so humanely, and you know, illustrate that they are complex human beings with, you know, override easy of, you know, aspects to their lives that they are fathers and brothers and husbands and children. But. Also, hold these views that many people find to be, you know, truly repugnant. But you know, that that that is true people are cannot be reduced solely to their ideological. Fixations in many cases, their understanding of community is also informs their ideological choices. The I mean, that's exactly what I was thinking about the kind of the the uproar that that took place at least on Twitter, anyway, right or within more liberal circles when the New York Times for since you profiled certain figures within the alright, for instance, in the US, you know, there is this this this fine line that needs to be the needs to be walked, and perhaps part of the story here is that is easier to to have empathy for people within the realm of history as opposed to within the president when people and movements, and we have the potential to do a lot of damage in one way or the other. Sure, I mean, I think a lot of people said to me when I first started my dissertation wanna to find some really, really. Dead people, you know, people that for whatever considered to be controversial that you know, you could look at them. You know, you could gaze upon people in the twelfth century with the kind of ease that you can't with people who are living. But I also think that you know, that the fact that, you know, this is unfolding history to me makes contemporary history, particularly exciting, and you also have an invaluable opportunity, which we don't have with people. You know, who lifted say the renaissance to interview them and to hear you know, how they see the world in their own voices. Now, I'm not saying that you know, we suspend all critical inquiry because you know, you can sit in front of them with a tape recorder. But at the same time, I think that contemporary history is exciting. It's dangerous and problematic can be instrumentalise d- has many pitfalls, but at the same time, I don't think that we should shy away from studying controversial groups or looking at contemporary questions through cO lens. Just because it's possible that you know, that you can run into some difficulties news story. And it's a challenge. But I think it's a good challenge you I'm somebody who also deals with kind of more contemporary, topics. Not I think as contemporary as as what you're dealing with. But there are a lot of challenges when we're talking about the recent past whether we're talking about access to archives or talking to individuals who are still alive new. But also offers a lot of opportunities. Right. You know, I think that maybe one of the ways in which you know, you're able to really give life to these people is just that you've actually had a chance to get to know them. You know, you talk about how you visited like Kiryat Arba, right? Or some of these other settlements men actually spent time with these people who you're writing about in that I think is really important in terms of your ability to you know, to write about and talk about them. Yeah. I think the question is is how you know if you're writing on contemporary history. How do you maintain that kind of historical in critical perspective because this isn't journalism? And we have a story is use a different tool kit and have a different understanding of audience and the nature of writing than someone who is CEO. Reporter for the Associated Press. So part of this project is also to think through some of those distinctions to allow historians really to have currency in contemporary debates, but also maintain the kind of discipline that the historical profession requires and use the kind of tools of the that these oracle profession uses which also somewhat different than than what is currently in the public sphere. I wonder if gears a little bit on and I want to talk about this group of people about these settlers. And then I wanna maybe perhaps, you know, as you move forward talk about kind of what this tells us, you know, about the Israeli society in which they live in the American society from which they came. But I think it is important to try to get a sense of who they are. And what their story is. Right. The oh, so for instance, like you suggest in the book that about fifteen percent of the settlers in the occupied. Territories are of American origin. I'm in this is kind of a disproportionate number. This is higher than it should be so to speak. So I'm curious. You know, why that you think this happens to be the case? And what are the implications of this to be seriously should say that fifteen percent within the West Bank proper? If we were going to extrapolate this study, which various various reasons, I chose not to do on to include areas over the creed line that have been formerly next name as appellative Jerusalem, we talking about tens of thousands of more Americans live in suburban neighborhoods of Jerusalem like yellow or. Remote and today even in east Jerusalem. So, you know, it's very significant percents percentage of the total American immigration to Israel Palestine, and which. I think comes about for a variety of reasons, I mentioned before American immigration to Israel is probably the most highly ideological immigration of the most recent waves of immigration to Israel and correspondingly those immigrants, you know, make choices that follow upon ideological lines. I think the real question of this book, though, was you know, why is it enough for Bob? From Teaneck New Jersey to settle in Jerusalem or Vicente mesh or Rana or any number of other Anglo enclaves within today's border, the state of Israel. But for Sharon that does not seem sufficient and does not, you know, fully correspond were hurt with her understanding of a what a self realization project is. And I think that's really one of the dilemmas of the book is why do people who come from the same generation make very different choices when they land on Israel shores. As I said before I think that's because Jewish-American who are going to the occupied. Territories made their decisions out of a constellation of ideological association in lifestyle factors, each one of those is political in its own way. But these were individual choices that were arrived at by over sixty thousand individuals, and for many the feeling was and drew slum or Rana or otherwise was not enough. I recount a story in my book again about the settlement of Takuwa of a conversation between two friends, Bobby Brown, and Ellie Birnbaum Elliott Birnbaum was is a psychologist. He's now retired at the time. He had really wanted to make his self realization project in Eurocom development town in southern Israel that suffers from many kinds of problems associated with, you know, poverty and disenfranchisement and he thought he was going to spend the rest of his life working with disadvantaged youth. You and is front. Bobby Brown came around to him and said, look L E. I think this is very valid. Oh project, and I understand what attracts you to making your life in your for both personal and professional reasons. But if you don't come with me, Toco Toco isn't gonna exist there is going to be no settlement of Takuwa in this eastern corner of the Gucci owner tree of Zion reach into the West Bank. If you and I and a few of our friends from Manhattan, don't make this happen and Ellie thought about it for awhile and said to himself, you know, Eurocom is could probably still going to be here in sixty or seventy years, but, you know, bobby's right if I don't go with him to Coa to Coa, frankly will not exist, and for many, those are the kind of choices that they confronted was that they you know, they had opportunities to bring something that they believed in into being through the dint of their own effort through their own ideological conviction and sacrifice and for them, the conventional choices and existing possibilities perhaps. We're not enough of in their scientist imagination. So so you're kind of thing I think that. That these moves are ideological bright. Certainly I mean, these are ideological on, and I should stress, you know, when there were corresponding associational and lifestyle factors. Somebody says my brother-in-law lives in fraud or I like to call because I could have a nice house with a garden. That's not saying that, you know, sociation lifestyle factors are not in of themselves political because certainly you can have a home with a guarded in the Galilee or the Negev is well, but these decisions were made, and they have ideological and political resonances and consequences. Yes. So on you mentioned to Koa, am I wanna talk about some of these settlements in detail? But before we do that, I wanna push you a bit on this question of the ideological nature as described it of American Jewish Aliyah or immigration to Israel because something that you mentioned earlier in our conversation. You mentioned I think this idea that the immigration of American Jews to the state of Israel was in some ways distinctive. Or exceptional because it was so ideologically motivated, and I think that there is some truth you as we kind of compare for instance, you know, people who had greater push factors for their own immigration. Right weather. It has to do with the holocaust right or persecution. Or or anything else that that there certainly were not these kind of factors when you're talking about, you know, American Jewish life by any means, right? So there is a distinction. I think that can be made. But I'm not so sure that we can necessarily call it unique. And I'm curious if you may wanna talk a little bit more Mel why you think that American Jewish immigration is so exceptional in some ways. Yes. So I think that you know, and there will end will be disagreements about some of the ideas advanced spoke in regards to the exceptionalism of American Alibaba, one of the ideas that I tried to underscore in this focus. I think that the push and pull factors are often linked traditional to policies of immigration, generally. See American immigration to Israel is solely Opole based immigration that these aren't people who are fleeing from poverty or war or famine or any of the, you know, parade of horrible that motivate, you know, typical forms of immigration and that the preeminent scholars of previous generations of Allah or American immigration Israel again. I don't like using the terminology of Ali-al which in itself connotes, a kind of exceptionalism. Of you know, they typically have seen Jewish American immigration to Israel as being solely motivated by you know, desires that were made a free choice. And I think the situation is really a bit more complicated. Yes. Certainly Jewish American immigrants Israel or not suffering by any stretch of the imagination. These are people who typically have left comfortable lives in the United States to move to you know, to Israel in off into the occupied. Territories. But I think that there is also a kind of subtle push factor, which is not necessarily been a knowledge by scholars which is that this generation Jewish-American aggravates clearly felt that they could not realize there's ionised in Jewish aspirations living in the United States to quote from the book. There is a question of given who I am a where do I belong and these cohorts certainly felt that they do not belong in the United States, and in that in itself, kind of constituted a push to a push, you know, to Israel and the occupy. Territories. So, you know, push and pull factors are not always quite as obvious that they may seem and I think that this is something that is exceptional about American immigration Jewish American immigration to the occupied. Territories. I mean, I think it's important to note that you're really focusing on on a certain generation of people who migrated to Israel, and who settled in the territories in the aftermath of the sixty seven war, right? You're not talking about all American Jewish immigrants. I think that that this is a really important aspect of the book that you are talking about a moment when you as you said a certain group of Jews in the US perhaps felt that they could not live out their expirations in America. Yeah. I think the book though, does does take into account that there's been a change in in the democrat profile Jewish-American immigration to Israel or is repelled Stein. More broadly over the past fifty years that the people who came in nineteen sixty seven or not exactly the same kind of people who came in came in two thousand. Seventeen but they're still mostly motivated by similar factors. You know, while we can talk a lot about, you know, sort of how Jewish American liberalism has volved over this period of time, and the profile of the kind of Jewish American that might immigrate to Israel craps is correspondingly evolved. I think that these questions and push and pull factors hold true across the past fifty years. More broadly. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm so I want to focus a little bit more on nineteen sixty seven right because I think one of the things that you argue in the book is at the sixty seven war was a turning point to are a catalyst. You're not just in terms of the history of of the state of Israel itself, which is obvious, right? But in addition also for the development of of this kind of of a movement. Of American Jewish settlers, a mess. So I'm curious. You know, if you might wanna talk a little bit more about the aftermath of sixty seven in in the changing relationship of American Jews in Israel, you know, and what this has to do with your thesis that that many of the American Jews who made their way to the occupied. Territories had this idea of implementing they're kind of American dream in the West Bank or in the peninsula or elsewhere. So I guess I would start with a quote from northern pot Hauritz once said, you know, once upon a time before the nineteen sixty seven were they were Jews in America that, you know, were non Jain as there were anti Zionists were entirely indifferent to in the affairs of the state of Israel, and we're entirely concerned with, you know, their own domestic agenda. It's hard. I think today, especially given millennial divisions over Israel to reckon with the idea that in the immediate aftermath of the nineteen sixty seven war ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of American jury were unequivocally and unanimously in support of the state of Israel and at the nineteen sixty seven more itself, which was experienced as teenagers and young adults. Many many of the subjects of my study. But more and more generally was a profound moment in the kind of news ionised awakening in the United States. And brought it really brought about a revolution. In the American. Then Jewish relationship with Israel, politically, spiritually philanthropic -ly emotionally, and otherwise, and the certainly had a significant impact on the generation of American Jews that I- profile in this book. More broadly. I've tried to contextualized the actual events and aftermath in nineteen sixty seven war in a broader constellation of trends that I've called the nineteen sixty seven moment, which were not only, you know, the Israel's unexpected and perhaps new fork victory in the nine hundred sixty seven Arab-Israeli war, but part of a larger rethinking on of the American Jewish experience in its relationship to Israel that came across against the backdrop of a new awakening of holocaust holocaust memory in the sense that many American choose once again didn't know how the war was what the outcome. The war was going to be a potential, you know, second holocaust in their own lifetime that American Jews around the nineteen sixty seven war were also taken part in a larger kind of ethnic awakening that was in the United States that was affecting Italian Americans and Greek Americans and African Americans and in many ways, creating this idea the hyphenated American ethnic identity and the nine hundred sixty seven war and sorted the pride and joy that many Jewish Murphy's took in Israel's victory also strengthened this kind of ethnic awareness and ethnic appreciation that had been taking place in and around the same tire period last, but not least the shift in the new left against Israel almost immediately in the aftermath of the nineteen sixty seven war really transformed or perhaps disrupted diaster Zionist life, you know, shattering or at least very much printing about the shattering. Of the participation of American Jews in progressive circles or on the American left, and sort of reformulating kind of new Judeo Christian establishment on the right? This is really going to be the subject of my next book project, and you know, for this generation of American Jews who had just witnessed in nineteen sixty seven war. Started citing sorry to ask themselves questions of do. I really belong in these progressive movement's where I've spent my life up until now, you know, they were they were sort of an, you know, confronted with the dilemma these people again who had been active in the liberal social movements of their day. But suddenly found that their space within those movements was contracting. And we're looking for new outlets for their activism. Some of course, turned inward towards movements of primarily tuition concern, like the student struggle for Soviet jewelry or even mayor Khanna's Jewish Defense League, but others began to look abroad. And that's I think how this generation of Jewish-American Immigra. Saw their futures. You know, no longer in America, but in Israel and for some over the line. So do you see a major difference then between the Jews who were part of this this experience or this moment and who made their way to Israel between those of that group that settled in the occupied. Territories and those that did not or are you describing more broadly speaking this entire phenomenon. And this is just one subset of this group. Right. So I think that they are one particular subset of this broader experience, but you know, the choice that they have made which we spoke about earlier about why, you know, living in a place like Jerusalem was not sufficient comes from, you know, an additional ideological overlay that beyond simply the nineteen sixty seven American Jewish experience. I'm so let's focus a bit on some of these case studies that you talk about in the book because the core of the book, I think really focuses it really focuses on these three settlements of of meat which was in the Senate peninsula of fraud, which is in the south of Jerusalem. And also the settlement of Tacoma, which which which you've already mentioned, which is essentially in the heart of the of the West Bank, geographically speaking. So do you maybe want to briefly summarize, what is the story here with these three case studies, and what they tell us when we put them all together, you know, as as you mentioned, the heart of the puck with these three case studies at profiled very different settlements that that were established by and for Jewish American immigrants in the occupier. Territories between the nineteen seventies. And and present day the idea was to try and illustrate the dynamic shifting relationship between Jewish American immigrants the Israeli government, the native Israeli settlers Dement and the Palestinians in the in these very diverse. Cases that certainly have different historical contingencies in experiences. And really try and illustrate what the variety of roles and and contributions that you wish American immigrants have made to the broader is really subtler enterprise as both other leaders and cadres over the past five decades, you're not really allowed to have a favorite child. But I will admit that, you know, my favorite case study of the book was the settlement of a meat which was founded by a guardian or seed colony founded in Cincinnati, Ohio by a cantor and his wife, who's nutritionist Hyman, Sarah FIFA l- who gathered a group of Jewish American across the United States to settle in the Sinai peninsula, and the new city city seldom of your meet the book, you know, illustrates the various struggles they had in joining this Isreaeli seller project. It was not obvious to Israel e officials nor the Israeli government that these idealistic Americans were truly wanted of in this new seaside. Side pioneering opportunity, but through dogged determination. And frankly, a great deal of winching Jewish-American imigrants did establish a significant presence in this Sinai settlement between might the nineteen Seventy-three war and the disengagement from the Sinai peninsula in nineteen eighty two. The last part of the story is really about one potential model. The Jewish American settlers offer in thinking about the peace process in the American settlers saw their dreams and their idealistic project and a decade of effort destroyed literally often on national television with the disengagement from the Sinai nineteen eighty two, but they chose to leave their homes peacefully some returning to the United States and others continuing to live in you know, bear Chevron other parts of Israel and do not join the protest movement that emerged around the ship. Israeli peace accord. So we might think of Jewish American settlers here is being peacemakers instead of protesters, and I think this is something to consider with a few possible future disengagement from the West Bank in contrast settlement to like fraud, which as you mentioned is really a Muir Mure miles from Jerusalem by bypass roads today, you know, has always billed itself within a national consensus settlements that were part of both Israel's historical tradition. The site of pre existing settlements in the West Bank prior to the nineteen forty eight war, MS well, as a kind of, you know, political consensus about the outlines of a future peace accord effort was a partnership between aid dynamic Jewish-American rabbi Shlomo Riskin who has come to. I think great great prestige and fame for his activism within chew American orthodoxy as well as the Israeli. Israeli rabbinical scene and a native Israeli southern activists emotion. Moskowitz who had grown up in one of the key would seem that existed in the zone or tree of Zion region of the West Bank prior to the nineteen forty eight war. They brought into being an entirely new model for settlement one that as I mentioned earlier kind of combined messianic redemption with million dollar mansions and offer Jewish American emigrants a kind of yuppie suburb over the green line. The at effort has also experienced various political maelstroms of and the evolution of this settlement and of its impassioned spiritual leader rabbi Shlomo Riskin is really been at the heart of the story and trying to understand where the settlement has stood and how it's views on these rappel Stein conflict have hardened over time. The last settlement that I profiled in this book to Coa in the remote eastern corner of the Guccione reach into West Bank. Which is now connected to. The neighborhood of Jerusalem. Bye bye bye pass road to top yoed in about ten minutes time, which has brought a traumatic change the settlement that used to be really an a quite on distant distant corner of the West Bank has been one that has been very much unlike a fraud that while if fraud his heart init- attitudes over time, it's relative experience with its Palestinian neighbors has been croissant. But Takur has been has been a settlement that has been under siege. From the very start as I mentioned earlier, not only is to call a, you know, it's founder Bobby Brown, characterized turn left at the end of the world. And it was initially in a very remote corner of the West Bank. I think that phrase also helps illustrate the ideological roots of the settlement founded by a group of Jewish American immigrants, primarily from the Upper West side of Manhattan who decided to settle in what they called green Sione or the seed colony of the heart of scien- for them. It was a effort to establish what they consider to be. Jewish civil rights in the midst of the Oslo accords into literally stake a claim I'm into territory at the West Bank at a time of potential potential disengagements. And you know, it will track diplomacy regarding the future of the occupied. Territories in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties Dakota has experienced very violent relationship with his Palestinian neighbors, which continues until today almost unabated and certainly could be on the tropic block in the case of a future final status agreement. Nevertheless, I'm, you know, the founders of Takuwa have also engaged in their own kind of grassroots bottom up peacemaking through the efforts of rabbi Menachem Fruman who was a native Isreaeli rabbi who settled in this community, this Anglo community and led a very controversial and often polarizing effort a religious peacemaking with his counterparts. Amongst the Palestinian and Islam leadership in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip until his recent death a few years ago because been a kind of interesting model of a settlement that has been under siege from the start, but is also pioneered new strategies for Israeli Palestinian peacemaking. And each one of these case studies is experience, you know, is its own unique story, and I want to stress that this very much reflects the participation of Jewish American immigrants within the Israeli settlers movement. More broadly that there's not a single unified story, but one with many historical contingencies and complex experiences. Press you on here where you talked about how the history of these communities raise. So each of them is distinctive for each of the individuals sort of has their own path to these settlements. But if we had to kind of synthesize them together, what do they tell us right about this group of what sixty thousand? People that you're describing you know who have settled in the occupied. Territories and about these communities in about this vision, which create as you as you put it in, you know, in the book is kind of a city on on a hilltop very much. So I mean, I think that that is what unifies these very distinct stories is that they share an understanding from their American experience that this was a kind of and pioneering utopian project and one that was a self realization effort in the interest of what they call Jewish, you know, human in civil rights within the Israeli, settlers enterprise. So this is a story or many, many, many, many many stories really that, you know, mobilize a American Jewish experience within the framework of the Israeli southern enterprise. So I think that this leads us towards a major issue that I hope that we could talk about which is that you talk about this book is sort of both being about Israel, right and about America. Right. You describe it as you know, half about Jewishness in America and half about Americanised in Israel. So I'm curious sort of how ill looking at these case studies, and you know, at this group of people help us to reassess the history of American sign ISM mad about American history and helps us perhaps to rethink the history and culture of the state of Israel. Yes. I certainly hope so, you know, the intent behind this book is also to look at I guess the experience of immigrants and why they might choose to participate within alternate shortlist politics. And I think that you know, Dafa because they were immigrants and had difficulties assimilating into what I call the Israeli military bureaucratic complex that they chose activities where they felt that they could make their contribution. And in many ways, the kind of pioneering utopian contribution that they had brought from their backgrounds in the United States to Israel. So the nature of their immigrant experience is really part and parcel of this story. And I don't know if we would see the same kind of contribution from those who come from different backgrounds, and that's why I think the story of Jewish American immigrants who are obviously not the only immigrant population within the Israeli southern movement. If Nova represented one is truly unique maybe also to say a few words that I mean, the story of American Jewish liberalism is also very much pardon. Hersal of the decisions that these individual and collective Yose Jewish American settlers made that since the nineteen nineties. I think the story is really about their relationship to their liberal background in the wake of the first intifada the kind decisions that they have made in regards to liberal discourse rulebook relations of the Israeli sentiment. A Kaya of of practice Jewish American immigrants have very much pioneer or losing their liberalism by choosing the route of settlers, Tara and foregoing or forgetting many of the values that they had once, you know, taken as as taken for granted. So do you see this kind of a process of continuing sort of erosion of the liberal values over the course of the decades that you're studying here knows that's kind of what you're describing. Yes. I don't know if Rozhin is exactly the term that I would use liberalism both in the American Jewish. And Isreaeli context have changed over the past fifty years. And it's perhaps only natural that American Jews both in the United States and Israel have been along for the ride. You know, we see a dramatic shift within the American Jewish population. Both in terms of their voting patterns for people who are really Israel. I in a way in the sense that they've migrated to the Republican party, which they consider to at least share that aspect of their agenda. Not you know, many other social and economic issues and a distinctive change in the nature of what is liberalism looks like as well. I think there's no no doubt that Israeli opinion is hard into the entire political spectrum has shifted to the right over, you know, certainly the past few decades more probably over the past fifty years, an American Jews who have immigrated to is reposed diner part of you know, these processes will in very much live. These processes are lived out through them in our participation in the Israeli, settlers enterprise. I think when you put this in the context. Of the shifting politics of America as well raises an important question. Right because you're looking at a very small subset of people here. Right. That that I think are illustrating a broader, social and political shift the rise of of Neo conservativism, for instance, right is also it part of the story that you were talking about earlier in our conversation. American Jews who associated with the left in one way, or the other who came to feel that the left was kind of rejecting them or that that that these ideals just wouldn't work, and so you see sort of multiple pathways, you know, some people who decide to leave America altogether, others who changed their political perspectives within the context of the US. I think that that. I think that that there's something really interesting here to think about you know, that this one group of people that you're describing is just one potential scenario you coming out of this Milia that you've been thinking about yes, which I hope will sort of be my food for thought for the next five or so years of my life is really the subject of my second book pocket is really as as you said, you know, one way of reconciling this dilemma between universalism particularism, but was by camping to Israel for some, you know, over over the green line to Israel-Palestine. But really what happened to all design is that stayed home after the nine hundred sixty seven war, and how to reckon with how Israel disrupted I ask for a Jewish life. This I think is the, you know, one of the broader questions raised by the book, and I'm looking forward to the opportunity to revisiting that, you know, and looking not only at a much much larger case of what happens to everyone that stays home in the United States but looking comparatively because the nineteen sixty seven more did not only affect American Jews. It affected diaster. Drew's. Across the globe. And how can we see the American case within comparative context? And that's what I really hope on the new project will be about. I think what's interesting about this whole line of research. Right. This show as we talked about earlier, this is very relevant. You know, this is something that is still ongoing, right? There are still Jewish settlements in the West Bank know, their future is questionable because we don't know what any kind of future will bring. But you know, the story that you're telling you whether in the Israeli context or any other kind of context is ongoing. Right. You know, you're you're talking about the past. But this is not a book that has been closed yet. So to speak. Absolutely. I mean, this is history that is still unfolding, and I you know, certainly wouldn't claim to have you know, to to know what the end of the story will bring I think all we can try and offer is perspective and trying to look at how the Israeli settlers project is changed over time made so much of frankly, the media perspective, and even some of the scholarly literature and other polemics really, you know, presents both the academic, and the average, you know, television watcher with a real with an image of the Israeli settlers movement. That's frozen in time in the nineteen. Seventies of you know, the highly ideological messianic religious Jewish Israeli on a windswept hilltop of the West Bank. You know, firing a automatic machine gun, and you know, spouting the bible, and I think today, you know, the days early southern movement is much more dynamic inherited genius. And in fact, some of these religious messianic forces very much eclipsed, you know, ideologically as. Well, as you know, sheerly demographically over the past fifty years, and for those of us who are interested in the future, and frankly in piece of in Israel Palestine in the future. I think all we can try and offer is that kind of perspective of how this movement has evolved. And to present a picture that corresponds with reality in two thousand eighteen and perhaps not with, you know, a iteration that we are all so comfortable and familiar with but doesn't really represent what the Israeli southern movement is or is today or maybe in the future. I think there's a potential here to to to to inform the kind of political and social discourse surrounding all of these issues in a way that you know, is unfortunately, blacking nuance. More or less across the board. My hope for the book is that certainly as I said that I want to urge fellow scholars to continue to examine the multiple facets of the Israeli southern method. Have you know, really lacking, you know, scholarly and often sort of public attention that there are so many other constituencies discourses ideologies that coexist within this very complicated, mosaic of the Israeli settlers enterprise today. And I would just like, you know, this book on Jewish American emigrants, which you know, is only one part of this movement and one part certainly more largely of diaspora Israel story or of aspirin Israel immigration. But to urge this, you know, others really helped me round out this picture and update our understanding of these very complex and dynamic discussions for two thousand eighteen. So if I might ask one final concluding question, I think that what's so interesting. Ng here. Among all the other things is that you are reading about a group, which is relatively small, you know, it's fifteen percents of the overall settlers population. But it's less than one percent of the Israeli population as a whole or even the Israeli Jewish population. So I guess what I'm really curious about is. Why is it in your view that this group of people matters? Right. I think in a certain way it obviously does matter to you. This reason why you wrote a whole book about them. Right. But I'm hoping that maybe you could tell us a little bit more. But why do you think that it's so important to examine and engage with this group of people? You know, what does it tell us broadly? Speaking about social and political issues in Israel or within the American Jewish community are otherwise that looking at other people might not tell us, right? So I mean, I think this this story not as something that matters to me that matters to a lot of my readers. I mean, these are people that they know people who are, you know, formerly members of their synagogue who lived on their straits who. Who they grew up within Zionist youth movements that they play baseball with on, you know, in a corner park, and you know, may have sat next to at the next desk in school. Then suddenly, they understand that this group of people has taken part in a very significant historical movement. So I think my readers have said, you know, these are people that I know when I wanna know, I wanna know about them. So I guess I would say that it wasn't just a group that has fascinated me. But maybe one that had had Bronner appeal, and I was fortunate to be the one who really got to delve into that in depth. But I think that the reason that, you know, they certainly, you know, they punched above their weight, you both demographically and otherwise in their contribution to the Israelis other prize, you know, historically on founding significant settlements by in four Jewish American immigrants and later in their role, unfortunately over over represented within the ranks of settlers terrorism. But. Today's certainly their most profound impact might be found in the popularization in the public relations of the Israeli southern movement because our activity also means something to I think broader trends in Israel, and in the United States their role within the Israeli movement helps illustrate the diversity of the Israeli settlers enterprise today. And it's volition over time the way the Israeli political trajectory has moved over the past fifty years. Roll Americans have played frankly on both sides of the political aisle within Israel, extra-parliamentary, politics, and more broadly. This again is is a transnational story that returns to its American roots and comments, I think or I hope both upon the nature of American Jewish liberalism and more broadly American or US foreign policy in the wake of the Vietnam war. So I think it's a story that crosses the ocean. And hopefully, also, you know crosses some conventional boundaries. In trying to rethink what left and right really mean today, and what the connection is between the US United States, and Israel, and you know, how ideas and people have moved across across an ocean over the past five decades. And I guess what this means on on on both continents. You're talking about how this this project can help. These people helps us to get a more nuanced understanding of the diversity of the settler movement, right or of the complexity of the arrows ship of Israel and the United States and of the Jewish communities in these two countries. You know, why is it that that it happens to be the American Jewish emigrants right through open up this door. Right. And why is it important for us to get a sort of more complicated understanding of this situation, so speech because there is this interesting issue of like, you know, like house different from other immigrant groups. But I I just wanna push you more on on this issue of. You know, white matters to get this sort of more full understanding, this more complex understanding of this group of people you how does it help us to get a better grasp on the conflict, right or on sort of the potentials in the future? You know? In addition to sort of understanding sort of the historical development over the past fifty years. I hope that, you know, this study really helps us rethink categories like left and right diaster in Israel, universal, and particular, etc. That is trying to challenge the conventional wisdom not only about how who these people are. But you know, how their ideas have evolved and to try and trace a story from one chore to the other and really try and rethink our understanding of what it means for people who came from liberal liberal backgrounds to be engaged in what much of the international community considers to be an illiberal project. And that, you know, spite the fact that, you know, many my readers may feel that you know, this is. A story really of cognitive dissonance. It's also one of trying to you know, unite or, you know, find cognitive harmony between a story of the United States, and that that of Israel, and to suggest that, you know, a heritage of one country has been translated into another context and to really try and follow. How how that story has evolved that, you know, this is really kind of a story of unintended consequences when the heritage of one tradition, you know, is perhaps lost in translation on another shore. And really try in trace what happens when liberal ideas are brought to new contexts and to try and understand. I think not only the story of American Jews in Israel Jews. But also a larger story of liberalism in the in the twenty first century, and what happens when American liberal ideas. Find a new home across the ocean. Great will thank you so much this. I think has been a really interesting dive into trying to understand. And they listen tire history in such an important topic. So thank you. Sure. And also, thanks to you for listening to this episode of Jewish history matters. I hope you'll check out Sarah's book city on a hilltop American Jews and the Israeli settlers movement, and you can find links to the introduction to the book and also to relevant items and topics. We talked about today in the show notes or if you serve to Jewish history dot FM slash settlers. If you enjoyed this episode. I hope you'll subscribe to the podcast on the rating or review until next time. I'm Jason Los dig and thanks for listening to Jewish history matters.

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Episode #168: Saudi Arabia and the Mountain of Moses

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Episode #168: Saudi Arabia and the Mountain of Moses

"Saudi Arabia in the mountain of Moses. You're listening to brothers of the serpent podcast. And Welcome Back Ladies and Gentlemen Boys and girls. The service two brothers of the serpent podcast coming to you live from ten by ten by ten chanted. Cuba. Science. Folks the dusty bones of an ancient seabed pie atop the Edwards plateau. We've got another very special show for you guys this week. We're joined once again. by Bob Johnson he's He contacted what happened Kylie contacted you. couple. We got the Brew Pastor Beers and I was like you know maybe all contact him about this thinking maybe we'll. Never really tell them. He decided he hit me up. DABID. Beers. But anyway. Yeah. So welcome back, Mana, it worked out perfectly. We got your beers in and you had some you wanted to come on and share with us. Oh Yeah. First thing I wanted to give a shout out to the pastor. Brother you came through and I really appreciate. You know what? I'm talking about. Yeah. My son's GONNA. Love it. Absolutely. Awesome. Yeah. So we're we are glad to have you back on the show. And so you recommended that we take a look at a short documentary and we did that and that's going to be the main topic and it's about and you you said you you've been in this area. You were like, Dude, I've been all over this area. So you WanNa talk about it. So we need to tell people what that documentary is because they can check it out to right. What was the name of it? Three Top of that. Finding the mountain of Moses the real Mount Sinai nuts right and it was It was on you said it was on aired on Newsmax or cable or sense when I saw it but I, sure it's been on history and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So there's it's actually on youtube with no commercials so you can check it out. Off Italy guy also has done some other interviews. About it. So I'll put a link to that the show notes people can check it out. For sure so that that is in some ways preparatory material for this show. And you know you've got other stories just you've been in the area. So we're GonNa talk about your experience in the area, but also things that are relevant to some of the time out in that documentary, right? Yes. Okay. Cool. So we will be getting into that but first. Let's do the news. From, space weather dot com. Chance of a minor storms today for the third day in a row, earth is inside a stream of solar wind flowing from northern hole in the sun's atmosphere. First. Contact with this stream on September twenty seventh sparked a moderately strong G to class geomagnetic storm since then activity has has subsided but minor g one class storms are possible today as Earth begins to exit the Stream. In Yeah you can tell by the conditions, the solar wind speed is at pretty high five, hundred, forty, seven. Per Second. And density. Is Eight point. One protons for a cubic centimeter. Sunspot number is zero for four days. Seventy one percent is what we're at for twenty twenty total seventy one percents spotless days. And Neutron Count is eight point five percent above the space age average. So that's dropped. Yes. It's gone down while everything else has gone up I don't understand. Someday we'll get this figured out one day when we have, we have plenty of time on the show. I'll go through the explanations that they have listed here, and maybe we can be even more confused. Just probably what's going to happen? We're always trying to correlate whatever's going on in space to why we fuel the way we feel. It's not really working out. There's some kind of delay effect. It never makes sense. That's the space where the news the watcher is with us. He is on route to somewhere. So He's actually in a moving vehicle right now in space. Watching us so we probably won't be able to bring him on to talk, but he is keeping an eye. On on what we're doing here. So the first thing I'm going to start with is maps are important for this episode. Right. So a Bob had us some maps and we're looking at the area of Egypt Saudi. Saudi Arabia. But basically the the Red Sea and the other one is the the Gulf of Aden Aqaba Aqaba. Okay. So in the area of Israel it's at the top northern into the Red Sea. So those are the two main areas we're looking at. So you got the Gulf of says on one side and Audubon the other. and. I'll post these images of these maps in the show notes, but we're also make shooting a video for this part at least for the Matt Part. So. With this. Okay. I spent twenty one years living Egypt and Saudi? Arabia. Traveled all throughout the area along Red Sea Sinai. On the saved thread saving both Egypt's aside and the Saudi side. I saw A. This short video that Carl mentioned it's called finding the mountain of Moses. The Real Mount Sinai. And in it, they talk about where they think that Mount Sinai is actually in what's called the million peninsula. the Mid Peninsula is part of Saudi Arabia extreme northwestern tip. That borders the Gulf of Aqaba. No it's. They're very, very few Bedouin live. There will again. I'm talking up until about two, thousand and five. Okay. So, it's a very desolate area. And blasted off of San Rock. Very little vegetation. The gentleman are trying to make a case for Mount Sinai. So what we're going to do is being there. So what we're going to do is we're going to talk about the red. Sea. We're GONNA talk about the Gulf of Aqaba and how maybe Moses got across this deep deep body of water and then was looming on the million, and we'll discuss some of the things that he was trying to bring up in whether they make sense geologically or not. All right. Cool. Sounds good. Okay, WE'RE GONNA discuss ritzy geography I. Read See Geology. Then we'll zoom in on the Gulf of Aqaba and then Megyn. Okay. We'll spend a little time with Moses and the exodus to. Okay. The Red Sea is a north south northwest southeast trending. Body. Of Water. It separates. Egypt and Sudan Eritrea on one side from Saudi, Arabia, and Yemen on the other side with the obviously with Saudi and Yemen being on the east. The. Red Sea is about. Eleven hundred miles long. It is excuse me twelve hundred miles logs about one hundred, ninety miles wide at its widest thing and it's about the deepest waters about ninety, nine, nine, thousand, nine, hundred feet. It's got some real good stuff. The thing is interesting about the Red Sea as we think in the south were starting to have a real oceanic crust being formed. It's very, very hot water a lot of sharks in that area tons of sharks down south. I had no idea was that deep At deepest part is it that's because it's a rift is that why is part of the rift it started as a rift and it's continued on like saying now we have actually pushing basement being formed in the south. So it's it's an actual new ocean allow south. Okay. The. Red Sea is a faulted depression separates two huge blocks. If you look at the map and I'm going to be showing this map here and hopefully cow can use. A. Laser and Kyle's going to be trying to emulate Bob's laser with the mouse pointer which. Not Blind. Caesar's disconnected. This is gonNA, work. Okay this is what's the Nubian Massif. If you look at the map that Rosenthal have up, it is this huge ignace metamorphised body. About five, hundred, forty, two, five, hundred, fifty, million years ago. The riffing in the south coming out of the East African rift system continued up in this area. And, you started to see separation between the new be employees to the West and plate to the east. This started about fifty, five, million years ago and by thirty million years ago. You had probably formed the uppermost tip of the Gulf of Suez. Okay. So if you look at a map of the Red Sea, you have A. Hey. One. Horn going to the northwest. That's the Gulf of Suez. Going to the northeast, that's the Gulf of Aqaba and those two together cradle the Sinai. You had connection in the south to the Indian Ocean beginning around twenty, two, twenty, two, million years ago. So prior to that, this was a dry depression like these two African rift is now. At about twenty twenty, two, million years ago you start to see flooding coming in from the Indian Ocean and you start to see the I marine sediments being deposited in this area all the way up to the Gulf of Suez. Finally was that like a violent event that waterfall I do think it was I think maybe that initial break the south at the Babbel Man Damn might have been okay. But I think eventually as you start to see. The Babbel, man Dab the streets of babble Mandevu at the south are very much constrict. Okay constrict the water, but that's more of a recent event here. About five million years ago. You had another you developed this motion right here. which resulted in the formation of the Gulf of Aqaba. And a trend going up further to the northeast that's called the Gulf of Aqaba Dead Sea transform fault. So off of the. Horn from the Red Sea that's pointing to the to the northeast. There's a kind of a continuation of a rift or something is that a transform fault transform fault? Okay. It's a left lateral transform fault. Now, only take if you move them back where it was just for a second kyle. We're GONNA take a step back if you take and remove all the water. From, the shoreline of the Red Sea, all around the Red Sea. You could you then take in move? Arabia the Ravens Plate looseness Arabian plate. To the south back towards the south. And move it back towards new play. What you see is these disease two plates fit together. Really, well, right. Yeah. That's pretty clear. New. Laser. So if you take an hold the gypsum player, the Nubian Plate. Motionless. And you take the Arabian Plate and pin it at the north. This is before any separation has occurred. To, there's no Gulf of. Suez up there. You've just at the bottom. You slightly slowly move the bottom part of the Arabian. Plate. In. A counterclockwise motion. That's how you open up. The Red Sea basin at the south. Now. As that rotation motion has continued, we're starting to put. Route True Otani crust in the south. So the Red Sea is considered literally considered a new ocean in that sense it has across at the bottom. Yeah. Most sees do not. If you go back up at the Gulf of Aqaba area. And I don't know how much you can follow this without looking at a map. If go back up to the up to the Gulf of Aqaba. Five million years ago. The Red Sea was cut off right here. There was no longer any separation like we had for Zipper opening from the south to the north. Instead. The whole block. The whole Arabian block started moving. To the northeast along. Along transform so that changed from what is slipping long. So if you think about the Sandra's That's the equivalent to the San Andreas fault when this block is slipping. To the North compared to this block the and that's why we call this left lateral movement. So if you stand on this side and you look across, it looks like everything's going to the left. If you stand in the Sinai and look at Saudi Arabia everything's going to laugh left lateral movement along that transform. Plate tectonics says if you're building crust or if you're building oceanic basement and the south, you've got to be consuming it somewhere else. Otherwise Earth. Gets bigger netting. happening. So. Right along up in here, you start to see where the Arabian plate is being subjected under the Eurasian Plate. In a geologic sense. Okay. So now we've defined the Gulf of with the Gulf of Aqaba is important because this is supposedly what Moses crossed. Okay as part of the. Part of the exodus. How did he get there though if he started in Egypt? Well don't forget there was water here. He came across in writing thrillers there with the Canal wasn't there. So he came across step of their either he came across just north of the Gulf of Suez. And then he came down through the mountains to new. Or he came across your any went south along a plane. To the Straits of Theron. Okay. So now we're going to stop for secondly the map there. If you hear crackling it's me my changing my notes because it gets really complicated some notes here he's got real notes. Folks I got me notes. One thing to keep in mind is that when the Gulf vodka was formed because of the nature of the formation you've got pull apart basins in there and that comes into play. Later, we'll define or pull apart basins are. Associated with transform fault. Okay Moses is the main character in this play. He's also the history was told in the book of Exodus and the Old Testament. He's the most important profit. Judaism he's also important profit to Christianity Islam and other. Abraham. Abraham. Lincoln's. The timing of that exit. This is the founding myth of Israelites as Moses lead-free juice from Egypt. From further west probably in the Cairo area. And it's celebrated with Passover each year. So after crossing the red excuse after crossing the Gulf of Suez. Recent cyanide. The book of Exodus tells us that Moses led them immensely for forty years actually. What he did was he can we cross the Red Sea into million most intimate. He led them in aimlessly for forty years. Finally Mount Sinai God gave Moses the Ten Commandments. The question becomes now, where is Mount Sinai right? Okay. So we come now we get to the movie or the video that we have of finding amount of Moses. Video has a really clear point of view. And they're they're trying to bring out there trying to make the case that Mount Mount Sinai is in the area of Saudi Arabia. Million today like I was saying before is a Much, like the Cyanide Eastern Desert Western Desert of Egypt. It's a blast son blasted place with very few shrubs or plants. There is one small small when I was there town called L.. Bad? And there's not a lot there as you can see if you watch videos here's just TONS AND TONS BR desert, rock? Now the reason we were there. Is because we were looking for oil and gas. And I want drilling a couple of wells they're on the million plane. Now if we can zoom in on the other map. Let's let's let's go back a second. About where they think where the standard model says Sinai is and that's in Egypt right? That's what been in this map. All right. Now we're switching well, can I just stick with this map that we had? I guess it's We're GONNA look at the Sinai and we're GONNA. Look at what's called the Eastern Desert of Egypt. The Eastern Desert of Egypt is desert that is along the Red Sea. When you hit the Nile the Nile is what separates Eastern Desert from the Western Desert. So Eastern Desert the section that's along the Gulf who has Red Sea. The Western Desert is what heads out towards Libya. The. Mount Sinai inside I is somewhere writing I'm not sure exactly where it's right in this area. And at Saint Catherine's and this is the old story. This is where they talked about. For. Up until modern times, this is where we thought. The Mount Sinai was. Now I've been to Saint Catharines. It's A. I was telling the guys where we started. There's over thousand monasteries in this area. There the Great Greek Orthodox and Coptic Christians. Saint, catharines that we were here. Yeah. That doesn't a wasteland. It's just just. Cal Zoom. In the map in it just looks awful. Yeah. There's very little air there. They found. Saint Catherine's I think has small spring there, which is why the founder and now somewhere around five hundred, eighty, six, hundred, eighty, something like It has the oldest. It has the oldest continuous library. In the world. Now when I was, there actually showed us the library, the library that they showed us maybe to some, they showed a tourists in the real things somewhere else. What we saw telling the guys think looking at your grandfather's garage filled with junk. That's sort of what this reminded me of because there was no order just much shelves and stuff on it. And it was. Would just glance ten real quick and didn't have any appreciation filled with stuff all I'm just. Listening to the sign and the seal again and Graham down in Ethiopia or he's on some Lake Murray is going with the. Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah and he's he comes to this monastery in the guys trying to find this book and he just keeps pulling out these chess. These old books that are all messed up. Though order he can't find it and there for hours he's just all this stuff is exactly right. Now, I was told the guys before we got to. Saint Catharines. Field trip had not here crowds working with Amoco at the time. And we had scouted scout out ahead of time and he'd picked out a nice outcrop. Reservoir Akhter called a Nubian Sandstone. Four days later we showed up with like. Five or six vehicles filled with geologist. And we we understood at that point gips hadn't really wanted us there because they put a minefield. Between us and for that how crop was there was no way to get to it now. A few hours later, we were driving around trying to figure out what to do. We were talking on the radios. And they arrested all of us different police arrested all of us took us to a military base further south. Where there were thankfully some American military they're because this just after one of the war's they'd had. And they were part of peace force there. So we spent about five five hours under arrest. Until we got an assistant to the ambassador called goddess free and they're like, no, these are jailed they're looking for mine's not not the not those kinds of. Got Mind. Gemstones. Sold the guy's again with amicably we were on the other side of the. Gulf of Suez more over on this side I. Don't know exactly where it's hard to tell. We're looking at geologic maps we're going. Well, we're on road. Yeah we. Would probably going to refinery. ROSCA rebe. Refiner that's why that road is. There is there by an oil company. Yeah. That one crosses from the Gulf all the way across to Nile all across the Nile. Along this whole Sandy beach here from the bottom tip of the Eastern Desert. Right. Along the Red Sea extreme the gophers who has all the way up. There are minefields put in there so that the Israelis could not come across the Sinai and. And we didn't know this they were marked and again, we had another field trip out there and we had one vehicle hit a mind blown up the driver Egyptian driver was killed. Nan. and. That was just kind of how was. When we were doing field trips over in the middle now now I, switched companies. I move Saudi Aramco. This is the Joe area up in here. You have. Israel there you have Jordan there. If you go a little over here more to go into this. Iraq up here. So. Every time we went out in this area. We always had armed guards with us. We always had police or military or both with us. And, because very few towns airs we're looking at. We had a cook. We had eggs and run cheese for for breakfast. And lunch and dinner cans of Tuna Fish and Ron's, and that was that was what we? Tell you after about. Cantu we after about a week of that you stunk and your farts smell like. I bet. That's how we explored this whole area and we were all over this area of. The vehicles were not fund. Deters. Go flag because air says I want Outta here. So now. I mean getting notes here. So up until from about four hundred ad on. Christian Jewish kind of mythology or or or just. Teachings. taught that the Sinai Mountain was in China and I think that's because there was a monastery there in sort of made sense. If you look if you think about how bad travel was a hard travel was. And, you had Rome other kinds of things. It just made sense to say that that was the mount, Sinai of the Old Testament. Now we're looking going back and looking at the Old Testament and some of what it says is actually no Moses went to million. And million is where Mount Sinai was. And so now. The thing we're going to discuss is which of these is correct. So. How do you say at Mit Megyn Megyn mid June? Yup. What does it mean? Do you know? Michigan is a name that's come from antiquity I. Don't know if there's any Daniel meaning. That's cool. That's some I hadn't thought about. What time we got by the way I I forgot to completely. Coming up five minute. Okay. Okay. Historical sources and Joseph. Joseph. Tell us that the highs mountaineer city now called. Minion it Megyn is where? Mancini's and he was around. One hundred hundred hundred eighty something like that. Yeah, he was pretty close. Clinton the locals and refer to L. Laws as Jell, Mussa or motive Moses out in the Mohsen. Interesting things in this short documentary. All. The local legends. They're like Oh. Yes. Moses came through here and they're they're totally stoked about it. It wells black rock. Yeah. Yeah. This is where they stopped. This is where they took a risk. This is the altar they built. This is the mountain of Moses, all the legends across that plays. Really Cool. Yeah. The thing that got all started was about the time I was there a small group of Americans tried to get into the million area? And the blocked off meeting area and that's They were all arrested. They were all kept captive for awhile all this stuff confiscated and they're all deported. Yeah. WHAT THEY FOUND was there's a whole bunch of areas in the million that are blocked off their fenced-off. Guarded by the police and. Many of them are. Of the Christian sect many are just interesting archaeological. Things. So for example. We were talking about earlier talk about Nabet eons. The NABATAEANS controlled this area starting about four, fifty, eighty down to at least. One thousand. It was a four fifty BC. To about one thousand, I'm steak. And, those are the people that are might be responsible for Petra that's these these they did build Petra they built a lot of other structures in an area and another really beautiful city called my Dean and Sala. and. That my dean and solemn looks a lot like the buildings in Petra but just not in that. Canyon. There are just out. nope. In the wall all this those blocked off. So, this is sort of stuff that the Saudis have not wanted people to see have not wanted people to visit. So there are two places that people talk about Now that we're discussing Moses having crossed quote unquote the Red Sea into the million. Really it's the Gulf of Aqaba. The first one that might talk about it is. New Labour that's on the Sinai coast. That's about two thirds of the way up. Two thirds of the way up on the coast there too big. It's a big. Sand Delta. been there and it is just a, it's a it's a small city lot of diving goes on there. That's the main. That's the main draw. Have a small airport, a lot of tourism. The place. The talked about crossing. Is. Right at the at the entrance to the Gulf of Aqaba, it's called Straits Theron. And that's the one where. Tends to make maybe a little more sense if you have to do something like this. If you can zoom back out just just a little bit so we can look at. The there we go. We look at where? Nueva is this is. Area one where Moses would have gathered the Israelites. Up to a million or more when we gather right here. Send The story that we saw says it then cross the Red Sea. Excuse me the the Gulf of Aqaba. And get to the other shore through A. A lamb bridge that sort of connects the two. Right in this area. Now, we've gone back and looked at that and. There are three pull apart basins in the Gulf of Aqaba. And relatively speaking you're gonNA have highs and lows associated with each basin. Okay. Run here. So you got to base in here. That's one basin. Between here here's a second baseman. in-between between here here is a triangular base. That's a that's a third base in right there. But like a string, it's at the the whole Gulf is basically a string of three basins and to end, and in fact, one of the things that we look in this area here, this Gulf of Aqaba transform continues up. In, and forms the Dead Sea. That's where the Dead Sea forms is as part of this trend right here, and then it continues on and it forms. Part of the boundary of the West Bank. The. And this is kind of called a string of pearls says, this stuff goes up in there. Right through here So. Again, this is a transform in this whole plates moving here. Moving up to the northeast very slowly. So now we've looked at right down here where the first area where where Moses might have crossed where they say and there's reasons for it mainly here they say there's room to him to gather his people. Yeah. He's back on the Big Delta Delta Yeah. Yes and then it seemed like five miles long three miles or whatever. So it's pretty big. But. How deep is it across there the depth in here of looked at Beth metric maps in the best thing by seven so that I can see. Is Depths in this area in here are up to two thousand, five, hundred feet do F- huge. That's. No Lambert's very sheer walls through here. Sheer. These things are very sure that drop-off. And then if this is all just filling with sediment in here but we're we're talking very, very deep water. Because it's it's a fault, right? It's falling. Apart apart yeah. Now. If we go further south down to the Gulf of? Tehran. Excuse me the Straits, at Tron right here. This is another area or Moses could come in and gathered the Israelites because stayed crossover. This seems to make more sense from geologic. Pointed there is at least a string of islands is a string of islands in this area in. Water. Depths. Vary from. Zero. Down to around one hundred and fifty feet. Okay. So. This is more plausibly more plausible also in this area and it doesn't mean it's necessarily part of the Pharaohs Army that was drowned. But also, in this year, there's underwater pictures of wheels. That are encrusted with corals. Of course, the rocks, the woods all rotted away, but you have the. Wheel shaped corals. You also have human bones in this area. There are. At least one example of a looks like wheel was guilted or in gold well, Yeah Yep and the would has since rotted but in quarrel will not grow on. Gold. But you found that thing there. That is not evidence that these are cherry at remnants but but but they were yeah. But some of the spoke patterns match. Here it style to match appear to match. So all I can say is this if you're looking at the two areas to cross the Gulf of Aqaba to get imagine. The one in the south astray to try and appear to be a little bit more reasonable than the one further north. Okay. So assuming that let's assume that they're their natural processes at work. In the and assume the story is true that they crossed and there was dry land, right? I don't see. I mean, it just doesn't make any sense how something. So temporary. Could Drain the water down two thousand feet I mean just yeah. Like if there's any. I can't think of any mechanism but one hundred something feet. Like, we something catastrophic could have. So what what's the movie? There was a there was a pretty good movie did about Moses. A they were in their impact. Yeah. So he walks up you know he's got the whole day they get to the coast and he's hanging out on the coast and everybody's freaking out because they're trapped and everything. He's sitting out there at the beach at some point and he sees a meteor like this big fireball. Guy. Know. In some sometime later, he wakes up in the oceans just like draining away. Yup, and then there's the pillar of fire and. Don't forget there's all this is a. To me as a geologist, you could just easily say. Somewhere think about you know what it's Nahmias, right? Yeah. This era would highly highly faulted. Lots of faulting goes on Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Why get. Some kind of subterranean faulting going on. were. That's the pulls back resume out of time and also Nami comes washing back. Again I'm just sitting here speculating right now I've just. But nobody knows. Of course there are mechanisms that's what I wanted to. You're you're right there's This whole thing is a fault. Yes. So that's that's a great point. Yeah that is a good point. And it wouldn't have to be there. Somewhere else. You know the entire, the whole. Thing. Yeah Take deb breakdown break time. And Welcome Back Ladies and gentlemen brothers of the serpent podcast in the ten by ten by ten tangent science with a Bob. Johnson. And Son. Sean. That's right. So glad you guys came back and You know. As tradition holds we have to, we have to share passer beer so. I got one. Chilean we're GONNA pour it out. But we're we're we're getting back into. The the situation here with Where where we actually we're we're focused on the. Gulf of Aqaba we were looking it. The Tehran, the streets of Tehran you're right. Where we we just got him across the red. Sea Gulf of land. We got him on million. Now By. Exodus. Ready Okay. have. Moses got across the Red Sea which here we're seeing vodka. He was Kinda thirsty. He was walking around looking for water looking for quite a while eventually stopped in area was given information. He stopped near in an area where there were twelve wells. Along with seventy poetry's yeah. The old test quite specific about that. the Bible calls the area. Alum E. L. I M. Alum. and. This is a place where. Moses obtained water and. Even now. There's an area that's approximately across from. Waiver. That looks like it might sort of fit that bill although. The wells of all updated, they're just big old concrete thing. So you don't know whether it's real or not all. You know what the Bible tells you and there is a area where you have some palm trees and still have twelve wells. Navy's however do in fact, say that this is. The place for Moses. got that water now where was this I? I was pouring beers if you go by the way yeah. This is the. Wolf Hollow Brewing Company none the wiser that's right. Group has great. American light lager. So what's the area we're looking for here across the Straits cross-straits if you look at that little white dot up towards the top of the screen. That's the Beach Nueva. Okay okay. Now we come back proximate cross into the down below. Dare Net area and there that's about where we're looking for a guy, the seven. Twelve wells in seventy Paul trees. Okay. Somewhere near is what the is where they call 'em. So I. Don't know if it's a coincidence that it's up there up near where the crossing would have been if you came from new waiver. Or if that's just That Moses might have been wandering along the The, Western coast. Yeah. Of the amid peninsula. Till he found water. there. As you can tell, you wanted to this area quite a bit. The next event. That happens according to. The. Exodus. Is that the event with a Golden golden? Calf. Net occurred occurred near Mount Sinai. And I don't know exactly where. Excuse. Me I'm sorry I don't know where Mount Sinai on this map. I know I have been by the area that the gentleman in the video or the show called. Mount Sinai because I have seen from a distance, I've seen that double with the blacktop. But. Okay. Yeah. So in the video, there's a mountain. that basically the whole top of the mountain is a different color than the surrounding rock and we had talked about that. Before the show. In the video, they make it out to be this. Strange mysterious was blasted by God. It's black. Yes. By the fire from now. Okay. You'd said that it was Basil Assault Assault. But in a way like if you look at. Mythology. With with this sort of bent that we like to look at it. Yes It was blasted by God. It's. They would have said that if God was the forces of nature, for example, exactly it's It's understandable is a volcanic. The salt is an ignace raw. Yeah it's basically Thinking like you guys are talking about the the cataracts out in the there those results. Comes out of comes of. Volcano, but it's it's like there's the mountain itself I think. That's the question. No No, it's not volcano. Not like what what you probably had at some point that was underwater and huge. See there in that area. And you probably had. Salt flows either right ED surface or just below the surface and that was covering the other other rocks. So. It's just like a cap black rock and only. The rim, it would have been in that whole area and that's just the remnants all this left after all the erosion and uplift. It's But like you say, it's easy to see why if that's the only mountain on that area that has that black top it's easy to see why that would be. By could be. Over. Time become considered the the mountain where God blasted it with fire. The black. especially. If there was. More ancient knowledge that. Told them that type of rock was made with Fire Trivia? So near this rock. been was blasted with fire and has the black top. Mount this is where Moses went up on the Mount got ten camps and he came back down. And found his followers. His has had certain worshippers head fashioned a golden calf as an idol yep. He wound up destroying the golden calf. And these researchers in this area felt that they had discovered some of the stones with the school in calf might have been destroyed upon a flat large flat rock, not an alter but this large flat rock and they the trying make the case that that's maybe was where it was Roy. That's right. The. There are multiple pictographs in the air showing human figures with both. And There's A. He's trying to make a case that this shows that these were bull worshipers right or was the calf. Pictures like that I have seen a lot of different areas. A one specifically is in the. Corner of Libya, Sudan, and Egypt. Is a series of Kasur and I don't remember the name of now but I looked at them and one of these fields has on. and. Showed people with with Bulls showed people with ostriches showed people With Wyatt's show people diving in pools of water this is around. This been dated about nine thousand years ago. Sort of about seven thousand. BC. And of course, the environment was wholly different than the environment was much more land in. Savannah. The other thing? He said in the documentary there was that. The. Local legends that it is. The place. where the golden calf was destroyed it those legends are so strong there that if you get near the area, they think you're looking for gold. Yes. They. Get quite annoyed and drive. You are right. Now one of the things that's interesting is In in the exodus in the testament, Moses has three south three thousand worshipers killed and buried in a mass grave. That's right and ironically, or oddly enough there has been a mass grave discovered about four miles from this site. Now I have no idea. The age of that mass grave and you have to keep in mind there's been a lot of history in this area. The nabataeans work in the first. The first time we hear about the Nabataeans at history is about four fifty BC. And that's when a Greek king tried to conquer them and they beat off. The King's Army Agree King's army. The Nabatiye. Had An area that was extremely valuable. The area they controlled starting in the Mid Peninsula, and going up to the were Lebanon is up for petrous. This is all part of where you had caravans coming with spice and. Aromatics. Coming in from the central part of the of the continent of Arabia, also coming up along the red. Sea. So they controlled all this trade route. And they were became quite wealthy which is in the end why the Romans took him over. Around. One hundred ad down to about a thousand eighty. In any case. Nabbed built a Lotta structures near this lot of things they've carved. Lot of battles have been fought in that area. So when we talk about a mass burial. We don't know if it's two hundred people or five thousand people. We we just know there's a mass burial there and not a lot of work's been done on it but they did say in the documentary that was an archaeological site. So there could be information on it maybe somewhere. A. Recent because remember archaeological sites are. Basically Fenced off, lost off limits their offense now they may be. Letting people now that I don't know certainly have read anything about it. In that same area where the Golden Calf Destroy Moses built an altar of uncut stone at the foot of the most cyanide and he set up twelve pillars there to represent the twelve tribes of Israel. Now these gentlemen have an area where they have A. Low, cut. or a low low standing. Dry Stone walls set of dry stone walls are just stepping stones had been stacked. which have within enclosed within this are some circular stones maybe. Eighteen inches in diameter pill, but it's eighteen inches damage but. Carpenters multiple. Multiple sets of those stones. the researcher in his video claims that he thinks that that's where this altar was setup and that. Many of the lanes are used with these rocks where where be to guide the animals in for. Sacrifice. Now, the goats, goats and sheep being brought in. And again, all the local legends fit this guy's idea exactly. The other thing is throughout all these sites he keeps pointing out like all the local people here are saying, yes, that this is this is where Moses was or this is where this happened. So and the names whether it's double Mussa or. Water of Moses, Yep these sorts of things. They've also found clear researcher found cleared area. Which? They think suggest as an alter it's it's quite a large stone thinks this might have been the ultimate. What's things were sacrificed and all these things. Are. Very close proximity so. For a tale like this. To make sense and has to corporate a lot of small details and these are the small details that he's trying to bring in to make case. There was actually in the in the video they showed a couple of times when they were talking about the alter and all that. This. Pile of megalithic stones that. Look to me like a collapsed. Dolman like structure, you know a huge slabs piled in just look like it may have been had standing stones with a giant. Stone on top that just was collapsing laying there and they didn't really point that out. It was he was kind of. Looking at something else nearby but I'm like there's this. Massive pile of megaliths right there. It looked out of place but. Other things point out in this area near this where they have this altar is there's a wadi there which he points to his maybe being the the source or the location of the stream came down what the stream it's a wadi why Awadhi W. A. D. I it's dry stream. Okay and it can be in Santa we're heavy rock or whatever, but it's just too and They're kind of transit sort of thing. Seasonal. Seasonal. Okay Yeah. Only, in. Seasons like one. Hundred Years. Sco. Seasonal long time ago. But he he talks about how this is. This fits is part of the description in exodus. They also have evidence of Burt sacrifices. I think animal sacrifices that are near and actually beneath the altar stone. And finally, he points to a cave this nearby that looks out over this. Halter. And the Prophet. Later traveled to Moan sign and stayed in a cave and they point to if if that, in fact happened in, this could be the cave that he was looking out over that. And I. You know when they were going through that I was just thinking like man how many caves is that mountain probably have You know it's Don't know yeah. Because it says that the the story is that he went into the cave and he spoke to God there and I'm like. What was he really talking to? Got Some ancient machine and Go full engine aliens on this. Okay we're getting towards the end here There was water came from a split rock. So the This is back before they got on their way to Sinai. the Israelites camped dry spot they were desperate for water. And Moses struck a giant rock with his staff splitting, it splitting it in two or put a huge split in it. And that allowed water to flow from it. Now. This story, Jiffy? In. The first century AD he traveled to and said, he saw the stone. Miss Split Rock still there that it was too large to move. So these researchers point to a split rock which exist there, and what's the locals in fact called the water of Moses. They also caught the rock of Moses. It's a huge rock. Probably, forty to sixty feet high rounded and I'm sure what you call it It's it's just as huge upright rocket kind of a different color from the other. Rocks running. It's on the top of a hill. It's about one hundred feet tall. The rocks around in a very smooth is rock. Itself is smooth rocks around and are smooth as if water poured forth for these rights now. The that's it right here. Yeah. pull up some images and I'll. Take some snapshots shing that I noticed his for water to smooth Iraq like that. You have to have hundreds of thousands of years. To smooth those edges off. If it's water if you're locking just in an era of environment like that, you're talking millions of years. So, you mean, not just this. This outcrop here. But all of these, these bowl laying around that are also. Thinking about kind of rocky, finding a stream better riverbed, same same kind of based on a huge scale. Yeah. But at the same time, I'd say that's a spectacular rock that is. Now, what kind of stone is this? Is it sandstone? That looks like it sandstone right there. I can't tell from the. You know some some stance sandstone is pretty easily weathered Still if you look at the edges. Coming to get this I'm going to get this laser pointer at one more time. Wise. But you look. It's a really powerful laser that history shifts in isn't. Look at that right there. Take along with take two round something like that. All right here. Yeah. Up here I was. The only way that could happen quickly as if it was some kind of catastrophic flow. I really know if that would do it unless unless that catastrophic flow was carrying other lot of stuff. Yeah. Other rocks that were beating up against that and exactly raking edges off and then smoothing. Yeah. So is this Prominence unique to the area or is if you look around the surrounding, you ever seen anything else like that. And you've been all over the over that area. Now, I've seen this particular thing in. No. So I when I say I've been all over the area I mean clearly it's this does not look like it'd be very prime for oil exploration. Okay. But right how can you tell that? Just wait a second. Look at the picture and tell me there's no oil now. If you have oil and sandstone reservoir and you got sandstone to the surface whereas at oil going it going to the surface. Okay We. We take a walk on the back four. We'll. See. Yeah, we're not down you I'm just like wait a minute. What wizardry to? Just intuitively obvious typically obviously just. You just know because you've done this for decades. Yes. Okay. That's cool. What wizardry? Can you make this declaration? That's cool. So. So the places that you went nearby did not have rounded stuff like this it was it does look pretty unique I mean that's I'm it's it's. Something like that I've been all over it just because. I enjoy seeing that sort of thing. That's really cool. So in the in the documentary, the guy claims like this could be the Split, rock where Moses hit the Rock and the water poured out and all that. He hit the rocks split the Rock and water came out now but If you think about if you've got if that's got. If that has. Access to a aquifer at depth. Certain pressures. If that's just for the same reason, you can't have oil there because it was going to come to the surface got water. You can maybe have water come to the surface from depth. Along. Because it's porous and permeable man, it'd be crazy that would be nuts to see just like the top of a mountain water shooting out of a giant boulder and just pouring down the on all sides. Or. If it's just coming out from the crack right there and running down the side I mean. But how did it around the top of the thing that had? Guys are. Constantly raining down. See I like to look at those types of things like the the idea of him, striking a rock and water pouring out and try to figure out if it's a metaphor. Yeah. Yeah. For some. Natural process. And that could be a metaphor. For something else because when you stop thinking about it from A. Geologic point of view. If. There's water at depth and that is a porous impermeable rock. Why can't you have? Why can't that water? Come up and into that. I don't particularly think that's the rock but I'm just saying yes. It's not impossible. No. That's really cool. So I, just WanNa Finish in firm ladies and gentlemen. It's not so that okay. So that's the other thing if as a geologist and you went if you went and visited this place, you would you would be able to look for like a car window or something to maybe show you that there was. That there's some kind of. Whole or path passable. If you look at the rocky, if you look at the picture at the bottom there, that's a structurally complex look. Folding and. And so You know if there's faulting that goes to depth. I mean, it's just it's I think we have to sit and study it for a while to. Really, understand what's going on. It's a really cool feature though Oh that'd be great. Yeah. I, think in the video he was trying to claim that there's rounding down below the rock to might have been a stream running down. Yes. you pointed out when you were here earlier, we were outside getting ready for the show you were like, yeah, I mean that would just even if it was a little stream coming out that would take. A long time to smooth those rocks. Absolutely. Now one of the things kind of finish. So off here there's been a lot of details mentioned in the book of Exodus so you. The way that these guys tied it all together was you had new way the beach on the. Sinai side is a large enough air to hold this Israeli Israelite Hoard millions probably millions the UP. they got an across the twelve wells of alum along with the multiple poems. On the side. You have a huge split rock which she just let looked at, which is on the path to what they're calling mount. Sinai. which is a mountain which is. Referred to as amount of Moses. Yeah. By the local since got that large. Black top to it. Since and it's got a plane in front of it where millions could camp he got a possible alter at the base of the mountain with Edmonds Berg. Of A burnt sacrifices, there's evidence of bull worship with the the paintings that we have grips. You have a dry creek bed that comes down from the mountain near the altar. you can see maybe for the Cave of Elijah. Is exactly where it should be. So when you look at trying to tie together a bunch of small details to make a complete picture. I can see why he's. Kind of gone where he did I don't necessarily buy it. Yeah. But I think he's done a really good job of tying an altogether. And it? It makes you it. It's a fascinating historical. Or? and. The other thing again, like I pointed out several times is all the local legends you know that. That's what really gets to me I feel like you know you go to an ancient site you know if it's me, the first thing I want to know is what all the local people are, all their stories, what do they what they heard from their grandfather's grandfather's grandfather. What do they say about this stuff? So it's cool that. As you know when you're watching the documentary that guy's going along and all these people keep saying, yes, this is this is the path. And the other part is kind of cool as I keep thinking you know. I didn't see that. I was there. What are we could find a picture of that mountain? Yeah I was going to try to look back and I can assure that in the break. Yeah. Okay Gentlemen. Thank you very much. Really appreciate it and yeah coming on -joyed. Another hour of your time yeah man. That's really cool. Had A professor beer. What's The craziest thing to happen to you while you're over there was the was at the mine exploding. No No. We had lots of. We were there during both Gulf wars. And Khobar Towers Cobra Towers was a building that was A. Hit on the first Gulf War Bunch of Poppy Twenty National Guardsmen American National Guardsmen were killed. His it was good. We live maybe three miles for miles from there Oh man move and They. Had A. Another. a place in Khobar where my wife used to go get her hair done and stuff. And one evening. They had a bunch of jobs come in and they probably killed twenty five people, thirty people. They were mostly young Filipino. Women. Never Christians. Cut, the throats. Lot of really do. Whatever Yeah they blow up refineries and stuff it's just been. It was an area that after a couple of decades I was ready to leave. I'd had enough. war-torn. Yes. war-torn hopefully hopefully gets better. Yeah that would be really great. Yeah. Because that's I mean all the people living there through that for their entire lives of must be. CRAZY CAN'T IMAGINE Imagine it and there's so much history there. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. I would say the other thing too about the just. You mentioned the Petroglyphs that were you've seen other ones like that. That are like nine thousand years. Yeah they look so similar to the ones. We. LOOKED AT IN MOAB UTAH yeah. I mean I would not be able to tell the difference. You know this even the stones are the same colors. So when they when they cut into him, you'll either get like a black color or you'll get a lighter out. You'll have this sort of black face. Of the Rock and then they cut into it and it's a letter. They look the same and it's the same styles and that kind of stuff. Is really interesting to me. You know. How the art styles In these petroglyphs forums or very similar all the way all across the world. I have a bunch of pictures of this area that I was talking about in Sudan, Egypt Bolivia that come to the corners now. If I. can find out I'll send you guy some you'll. You'll see exactly. Confirmation what you're talking about go they are very similar to what you see from American Indians and stuff yeah yeah. And the other thing about the bull that we've talked about quite a bit and kind of joked about even is The. Idea of procession. You know moving into these different ages in ages being represented by symbols that of course they recorded. With the stars. So you have the twelve. constellations and as you go through procession. You know on the Equinox, the sun begins to rise in this new Zodiacal, constellation. and. You know if you rewind the clock, you go back to the age of the bull. Torres Torres, that's like around the time when. They they leave Egypt. So the time when they were. This yeah, and so after that, it's the Ram. Aries. Aries so that they're moving into the age of aries. So it's the end of the age of tourists and moving into the age of areas. Like. Looking at that. Story as a that's a clue telling you. When it happened. They were leaving the age of the bull and entering the age of the Ram and all the symbolism after that with the with the Israelites is like Ram you know it's like Oh. Yeah. They moved to the rams. Yes. Yep. So it's like he's coming down from the mountain with the new covenant basically. Which is entering the new age and he sees the golden camping. That we're out of that yeah, that's that's done ages over. Worshiping the wrong thing. What I want to know is how you guys to the Mayan calendar into that in the end of the my encounter in two thousand twelve how does that? I just drew a shift here. No but I mean that. Is it true that the calendar it's it's a processional calendar right I mean it's yeah. Yes. The long count the long. Yeah. One of the long counts I think. The ideas As, far as I understand it, I could be wrong but. The end of the Mayan calendar is just the beginning. Of the New Year next. Calendar itself and that the re and what's interesting about that is because entering the age of Aquarius. As we supposedly are doing and did began in two thousand twelve. is also the point at which When you're measuring by the equinox or the solstice. The Sun seems to be rising appears to rise eclipse the center of the Galaxy. So. That day. In the in the winter solstice. The beginning or end of the Mayan calendar. The Sun is a clip thing the center of the Galaxy. So that was there mark. This is the beginning of the year, but if you think about it all. All of our ways of measuring times involves circles. You you got a clock on the wall and old school clock. It's a big circle. And it's because what they're measuring is astronomical cycles and all the astronomical cycles are circles right the night is or the spinning. That's a circle, the annual calendar. The yearly one is measuring a circle of US going around the sun procession is measuring a different circle much longer periods circle of a slow reverse rotation of some kind whether it's the access of the Earth doing it or maybe the entire solar system they're all measuring giant circle. So you look at the Mayan calendar, it's a huge circle with smaller circles with smaller circles within it. The long count is a big circle. So any calendar When it ends just you just came to a specific mark on the circle, and now you're going back around you going around it right? I was just GonNa. Say. When we went into the new millennium year two, thousand my wife and I we had. We. Did you guys go full prepar? We're actually we had gone to. Ruin in Cairo at. The, time. And it was almost it wasn't quite at the at the beginning money. We're at a place called mean house in Giza. In it's the it's the big hotel. That's right. Next to the. Giza pyramid. And you would believe the kinds of. People in kinds of things we saw has begun get the beginning just about at the beginning of Millennium. The Giza pyramid. Yeah. Wow. That must've been interesting. It would've been cool to be there in two thousand, twelve to you. It was very similar yeah Yep. I can imagine it and all these people showing up in robes. All sorts of stuff in their hair and everything it was. Like Woodstock all over again. But with rocks instead of. Crystals lot of crystals. Crystals. All right man, thanks so much for coming on. Thank you. Guys have really enjoyed it. Appreciate it. All right. We'll? Be Back. And that was Mr Bob Johnson Ladies and gentlemen. Giving you the legend of Moses. And a possible location of the Real Mount Sinai. And we are bringing you the fuck. Here are the brothers of the serpent podcast cows cracking new beer. Watchers hanging out. And A. What do you think? I think it was really cool. I. I've. Like we were talking about before in the show and outside during the breaks thought about a lot of those things in the story. And always thought about aliens with the pillar of smoke, the pillar of fire. Vote there. Lead. Or comments or some kind of. Strike or something like that. But he was actually laying it out with like a legit geological explanation for these things in IT I. When we were talking outside I thought he was kind of saying yeah, I mean I've seen Patrick goes like this. They're nine thousand years old I've seen them all over the place. Yeah. So he was kind of. A I said it'd be into. I'm not sure I. Totally buy it. Yeah. He's not totally buying, but he also was saying. Like one of the things he pointed out when I brought up the comet idea. During the break. For the pillar of fire in the pillar of smoke actually after after this recent break when they were leaving. He was saying that, hey, there's all these natural gases under there that sometimes. It's plausible that there could have been. You know we'd already talked about some type of seismic activity that could have caused the sea to pull away. and. Then rush back in that same type of seismic activity whatever's going on in that regime of seismic activity could have caused some huge jet of gas to come out and ignite. Creating this pillar of fire and a pillar smoke. Awesome told us he's like look on the beach there. Fires will just. Burst because there's gas coming up from the ground, he's like look there's oil and hydrocarbons all through that area. That was why he spent so much of his life, there was an oil geologist. And he's like, yeah, there will be your fires running up and down the beach through the desert. He told us this story of the first item is on the show. and. Then he the thing that I thought was great there. He was pointing out that whole the the Red Sea that turns into those gulfs up there. Is Part of the Great African Rift. and that's this like anomalous enormous. Split that's that goes like one third around the Earth's circumference or whatever we talked about this in the. Earth in upheaval series Belakovsky goes through it and he just lists off every country that this rift goes through. It's thousands of miles long but then right up there at the northern point of that rift where where the the Red Sea, which has the rift right down the middle of it meets the Gulf of Akaka. Aqaba, Haka it turns into that Trans Transverse are transformed fault or whatever he was calling in. And all. In that Gulf right on the one side, the the the western side of it is where the fault is so that Gulf and then when you go further up north following that fault line the dead seas up there in another set of holes caused by that fault shift and that whole plate with Saudi Arabia and Lebanon Earth is rotating. Right. So you have known. I have known massive concentrations of hydrocarbons beneath the ground there the ground is very porous in a lot of places, its sand and sandstone and and sediments right now he said in other cases, there are pockets where it's trapped underneath volcanic stuff. And and shale but. There's plenty of places where the gas has just come out of the ground but because you have these faulting systems there. And then you look at the story. And yeah the geological explanation was really interesting like all you need is a like a some kind of major slippage of that. All the water pulls away out of the Gulf and suddenly you've got dry land in areas where there never was before and then it's GonNa come rolling back as Nami. That also will cause like buildings to fall in Egypt in all kinds of other stuff. And huge plumes of gas in the desert that are responding to new openings being caused water coming out of stones where it's never come out. All, that's really. Great, yeah pointing that out to, of course, I wish we would've actually. Recorded, the conversation we had when they were leaving because that was really good and you know. But yeah, the the. He was saying like all of this kind of tied in like you have or I guess you were pointing this out the. The plagues the Passover. Yeah, and during the Passover like a bunch of buildings collapsed though you're looking at possibility of. Tectonic. Activity is one of the things that I remember I can't remember where I heard this. Interpretation too that's cool. I'm trying to remember where I got this interpretation it was someone. I'm sorry but that could also be caused by an calm. The impacts may be the imp what starts at all absolutely. But of course, this process geological process has been going on for much longer than that. Yeah. But because it's sort of volatile zone. Yeah. An impact could accelerate certain thing. Because a change. Yeah Yeah. But yeah, the only aliens. Sorry I interrupted you go. There was an interpretation of the whole. The part. Like in the exodus part, you know the the series of plagues. The last one, the one that finally makes in the story the one that finally makes the Pharaoh say, okay. Get Out of here is the death of all the firstborn sons of Egypt. Right. And I can't remember where I got this interpretation but somebody was suggesting that that that that. That that that was actually saying all of the elites born people. Okay. And the whole. The whole explanation of that was that what actually happened is all these buildings collapsed and they're made of stone they're the big megalithic stone building. And the first born of Egypt art what that actually translate living inside those yes. Whereas the Israelites were living in like grass huts. Earthquake happened maybe it falls on you but you're not gonNA die but everybody living in giant stone megalithic constructions gets crushed. You know and the the idea if the translation to first born. To us, that implies like all of their, you know the the first born sons or whatever that to us that implies like children that are the the first one that a family has. But what they were saying was as maybe the translation should properly mean the the the elites of each Adriatic's. The people at the top of OJ, elites firstborn yeah yeah Gotcha Yep. The important whatever however, they would term it. You know I born the sons of Egypt, right? Right. The ones that live in the palaces. There's an earthquake, the palaces all collapsed the grass huts all collapse to, but nobody dies there. Right Yeah that's a great point. I remember you talking about that before it's really good. Yeah. So there's your first earthquake. If that's what happens right the first quake a whole bunch of stuff in Egypt collapses in the Faroes fine. Know Get out of here. Whatever no longer does he care too much because suddenly there's all this death and destruction amongst all these people he's like sure get out of here. You guys are a pain in the ASS anyway. Leaving any, it's like wait a minute. Who's going to rebuild all this stuff? So. All these structures fall except the really ancient ones yet used that cyclope in architecture right? That is. Semi earthquake-proof right yeah helps. Mad faeroes end survives. Because he's living in the oldest whatever. But yeah. So that's that's the beginning of the of the. Watchers pointing out the the this is why the Giza power plant would be built near. There's All of this. Is Makes. No good. Yeah. Yeah I, Love I love. Learning about geology in in how he kinda worked all those those processes in to the to the myth. That's really cool. Yeah. Love that stuff. Yeah. And I think what happened is he? Sees this documentary and it just kind of? On the one hand he's kind of he's sort of like. All right. Well. This is interesting. I'm not sure I completely by with this guy on the documentaries trying to sell me. But what what, what, what happened is it triggered all these memories as you know, he's like man I've been there. When he sent me the verse, Texas like I've been all over this place. So of course, I was looking at different things. Geological stuff looking for oil baby. Yeah. Yeah so that was cool. So he was just like he was like, yeah, I'll come on the show we'll talk about this. He wanted to kind of go through the idea of the documentary, but also interspersed with his experience of the area. And the wider geological context that we looking at here because when you watch the documentary of the guys just like Oh, yeah. You know look at this? Big Rock. Look at mountain. It's weird. It's black and he's like, yeah okay, it's assault. Still could work for them. Yeah. The thing I can buy land. So we we talked about this was that one the area that this guy is proposing is two thousand feet deep I mean, yeah the thing really tough and so if they did cross in the southern crossing the The way longer trip T. T I can't remember what it's called the Straits of Theron Yeah. Yeah. That's what it is. Then they would have had to go way back north right to to get to that mountain because that mountain is somewhere in the vicinity of the Northern Crossing yeah I think. But it doesn't really matter. I mean they went a long way. So they could have easily gone to that area have been the Mount Sinai yeah. But I also remember. One of the book reports. Were talking about you know he goes up there and he? He on the mountain and then he comes back down his face is glowing and there's some kind of crazy. We talked about the possibility of some kind of smelting or something. To. Seal. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah what. Is. This allegory is this you know the the going up on the mountain and getting the stone tablets written on by the finger of God yeah. Coming down glowing. Like trying to find, and then why is he depicted his horned after this? You know the the the the depictions of Moses with horns is just has always bothered me. You know he has these baby horns like after he meets God God's like. All right. You know have a couple of horns. This show that you're in the hierarchy now. Right that's like the on Inaki you. WanNa talk to the guy with the most horns. Yeah. Lowest career. Yeah. He's in the lowest rank now. Media. The glowing thing in the to himself afterwards, I don't know I don't know any of that stuff means, and of course. You know the the the techs are just like any other ancient texts. There's. You don't sometimes you just don't know what you're looking at in terms of like is this whole thing metaphor You Know David. Mathieson is basically like all of it is with yeah. You know maybe there were events on the ground that sort of. You know where some of these events are kind of their historical but really what the purpose of the texts are is to carry forward the starlets, right? Yeah. which in the star midst themselves are to teach us about ourselves and. Life and Yeah so it may be a a huge debt end even try to. Now. It's never dead end. The is never a dead end. Yeah. That's right. Little bits and pieces of it. You might. Trails, gold. Doesn't mean it's dead. The trail may be cold, but it never ends. So we didn't know how long the presentation was going to be Bob didn't know either. So we just decided we'll start at the beginning of the show and see how long ago does and he he kind of figured it would be about an hour and that's about what we got. So yeah. So we're GONNA. Go back and do. Listener Communications, couple of news stories and fill the rest of the last hour. That's right. Why are we doing I? I I've got this story to that I wanna read. I've been holding it in reserve. Hang Longtime Story. Which one is as the Yeah. This is the geology one. Yeah. Okay. Start with that Sherman, Gopher. All right. It's on, it's this is tech website. This is vice dot com motherboard. But it says scientists have discovered vast unidentified structures deep inside the earth knees. I saw that I'm like. Isn't all of the interior of the earth best on identified structures. Pretty much. That's what it's made. Of Dunno anyway. It says scientists have discovered a vast structure made of dense material occupying the boundary between Earth's liquid outer core and the lower. Mantle. Zone some thirty three, thousand kilometers or one, thousand, eight, hundred, sixty, four miles beneath our feet. The researchers used a machine learning algorithm. That was originally developed to analyze distant galaxies to probe the mysterious phenomenon occurring deep within our own planet according to paper published on Thursday in science but that was Thursday. Any moons ago in June. So I guess this isn't this isn't that old. One of these enormous anomalies located deep under the I should have looked up how to say this marquesses. I'll just go with marquesses under the Marquess islands. has never been detected before while another structure beneath Hawaii was found to be much larger than previously estimated. Scientists led by Kim a seismologist and post doctoral fellow at the University of Maryland Fed seismic grams captured from hundreds of earthquakes that occurred between nineteen, ninety, two, thousand, and eighteen into an algorithm called sequencer. While seismological studies tend to focus on relatively small data sets of regional earthquake activity sequencer, aloud Kim and his colleagues to analyze seven thousand measurements earthquakes each with the magnitude of at least six point five that shook the subterranean world under the Pacific. Ocean. Within the past three decades. This study is very special because for the first time, we get to systematically look at such a large data set that actually covers more or less the entire Pacific basin Kim said in a call. Though scientists have previously mapped out structures deep inside the earth this study. Presents a rare opportunity to bring everything in together and try to explain it in a global context he noted. Earthquakes create seismic waves that traveled to Earth's interior where they become scattered and distorted by structures deep inside our planet. These warped patterns are captured in seismic grams, which are recordings of wave activity inside earth enabling seismologist to capture rare glimpses of earth inaccessible underworld. Maybe it is accessible though don't know. The team of focused on seismic grams produced by shear waves s waves. That travel along the boundary between Earth's color and the lower portion of the mantle that borders it. These waves are the slower secondary waves that follow the initial tremors made earthquakes which are called primary waves or p waves, and they generally produce clearer signals. We normally like to use s ways because they are larger in amplitude and the data is more or less clean because there is less wave traffic said Kim. In particular, the team looked for the shear waves diffraction along the core mantle boundary. Because it detracts along that surface. It is a great place to look for these tiny structures on top of the core Mantle Boundary Kim noted. When the shear waves hit these structures, they produce a type of echo like signature known as a post cursor. These echoes indicate the presence of anomalies deep inside. Earth called ultra low velocity zones or you lvs's which are dense patches on the cooler mental boundary. Nobody knows exactly how you LV's are formed or what they are made of, but it's clear that they have diameters of about one hundred kilometers in that they are dense enough to slow down waves that pass through them. So call and I were talking about this before we started this segment. It seems like dense material. The way of should move faster through them but you were saying that maybe if it's viscous if it's more viscous, yeah, would would resist. Vibration. Okay. Because it doesn't want to move right and slow to move. Yeah, just strange has the higher the density, the faster stuff should go even if it's viscous right I mean. Sound like through a solid material way faster than it does through the air, for example. Yeah. But it's not a liquid right so different for liquids. Liquid sound will move slower than if it's a thin liquid. I think it depends on the viscosity because you can pressure is a. I guess you can. This would work. I'm pretty sure this is all based on viscosity, which is which is resistance to flow so in a in a liquid. In. Order to have wave action. You have to have some flow. You will you have your elasticity, which is the ability of it to. To rarefied and compress like water. There's very little compression and rare action in the water. It just doesn't really. Change much in terms of density. But it's It's Free to move right free flowing, very free flowing. So move around itself as what you mean. Yeah. Even under pressure in a tight contained right where it's contained. Yeah. Yeah I mean I understand that it's just I don't know I guess this is counterintuitive for me. It is. Yeah. I could be wrong but I think that's what it is I mean I'm sure they're not making some gigantic huge mistake here. It's they're called ultra low velocity zones and they are considered to be made of. Extremely dense material. Like in other words, more dense than the surrounding material. So there has to be some reason I it just they seem to be implying that it's the density that causes it to be ultra low velocity. Maybe I'm reading that wrong. I mean, typically with. With materials you would you would assume that density higher density would be faster. Yeah. Like the waves travel propagate faster through the museum. Exactly. Okay so By running thousands of seismic grams through sequencer. Kim and his colleagues found that the strongest post cursor signals. And their data set emanate from under Hawaii and the Marquess islands. This tantalizing evidence of the existence of to Mega ultra low velocity zones. Okay. Wait a second. And just looking at viscosity here. So viscosity can be conceptualized as quantifying the internal frictional force that arises between adjacent layers of fluid. That are in relative motion. So for instance, when a fluid is forced through a tube. It flows more quickly near the tubes access than near its walls. Yeah. In such a case experiments show that some stress such as a pressure difference between the two ends of the tube. is needed to sustain the flow through the to this is because the forces required to come the friction between the layers of the fluid which are in relative motion. The strength of this force is proportional to the viscosity. So if you imagine. Propagating wave requires a lot of friction. Right a higher viscosity fluid. Will require will will there will be a lot more friction in in any type of? Movement movement in it? Yeah. So now you're you're propagating wave is losing energy. To friction. Okay That makes sense. So now how that translates to slower propagation rather than a a faster. Quicker. attenuation of the way of I'm not sure but it just kinda makes. Your diverting energy. Yeah. To friction whereas in a crystal. There's very little friction in the in in in a vibration within the crystal, right? It's easily transferred that energy the the the mechanical energy is very easily transferred to the next atom. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah I was thinking like it made it may not. Let's see. Because the viscosity is also about individual molecules of the material not wanting to slide past each this. Right. So it may be something about that. So while the Hawaiian structure has been partially mapped out in previous studies, Kim's team found that its dimensions are much larger than expected. Okay. So this this has been seen before. But his sequencer program just. Map it out and show that it's way bigger than they thought Meanwhile, the Mega Ultra low velocity zone detected under the marquess islands represents a previously unidentified localized wave speed anomaly according to the study. Localized waves beat anomaly. Mega. Velocities are intriguing structures not only due to their size. But because they may be composed of exotic materials that date back to a time before the Earth had a moon. These huge anomalous chunks could be partially melted material that predate the moon formation event which scientists think was a gigantic collision between early earth and a Mars sized object more than four billion years ago. This is very interesting because this might indicate that Mega ultra low velocity zones are special and may host primitive geochemical signatures that have been relatively unmixed since the Earth History Chem said. The new study demonstrates the applications of Algorithms like sequencer, which use a special type of process he called unsupervised learning. In processing complex data sets like those found in astronomy seismology and countless other scientific fields. As, opposed to supervise learning algorithms which are trained to sort information based on known labels. Unsupervised Algorithms are designed to to find insights in unlabeled data sets. What if we don't really know what to look for in the data set explained to him. This is the typical question. We'd like to think about because the lower mantle, the target of our study still has so many unknowns. It's not really surprising to find almost anything lower mantle because we cannot actually go inside and take a look at it with our bare eyes. When you use a sequencer, what it actually does find additional information hidden behind the data set he continued. So what we did here's bind an optimal arrangement in the data set itself. We're not actually altering the data we're not doing anything, but just rearranging inviting this optimal arrangement that's what sequencer does. Kim's team plans to continue developing this novel way of peering into the earth. By examining higher frequency waves that might yield finer details about the enigmatic enigmatic structures on the core mantle boundary. The researchers also hoped to expand their data set designers grams produced under the Atlantic Ocean. We're hoping the sequencer will be able to basically let us use all of these diverse data sets and bring them together to look for these lower mantle structures. Systematically Kim concluded that is our vision going forward to answer more questions about the lower mantle in general. So. It's only a model. Yeah. It's only a model. But we were talking about this in the break and and. I was just thinking about you know any type of imaging. When you're trying like even with a digital camera like technically it's a model. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. So in certain ways, these models are it's different than like these cosmological models where there. We have sensors for certain. Data you know certain types of light certain types of things, and then they're trying to take all of this stuff and then produce a model that. Shows you the universe working? Yeah. In order to figure out what dark matter is. Yeah. That's a totally different thing then taking. Like with Light are was one of the examples I was thinking of. Where you're actually. You're producing this this energy waves going down. You know how many there are you know whether amplitude is all you know you create them? You're shooting the laser down and then you have these sensors that are picking up the lasers bouncing back all of that data. Is. Basically useless unless you have something to build a construct out of it. Yeah. Show you that okay. Here's the surface of the trees. Here's the surface of the. Ground underneath. So digital cameras do this. Is Light. So. That's pretty cool that they're doing that with all this old seismic data plugging it into something that can model. What all these vibrations mean. Is there's a ton of data in those vibrations. They're very complex waves, right? So sequencer is like A. Like an earthquake camera. It's basically taking all these waving all the vibrations. Yeah Right. It's looking at all the by branding you. Building an image yeah. You have to. You have to tell the computer where we're all of the microphones where were they located yet? What time did the Oscillations Begin Yep? And he put all that in there, and then you can start to build some type of image. Yeah. That's all built into your digital. Camera. Yeah. It knows when the shutter opened and closed and right. All all various. That's true. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, and it's interesting that these things are like floating on this boundary that that this is where they find them. They're big basically bubbles. The other BLOBS WE'RE GONNA BEFORE CAS yeah. I read a story about these. I don't remember a while back globs giant blobs. Inside the earth. But I love the idea that it was. It was due to some massive impact. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's cool. All, right switching gears This is from mysterious universe. The mystery of the Baghdad batteries This is kind of apt. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six workers at the archaeological at archaeological excavations of monuments belonging to the party in civilization just two, hundred, forty, eight to two, hundred, and twenty six. In the village of coot Rabou near Baghdad Iraq. Stumbled across something unusual down in the ground, they found an ancient weather, terra cotta pot or jar about six inches high, which contained a cylinder made of a rolled copper sheet. Within which sat a rod of iron and the whole of it was topped with plugs or stoppers of Bitumen. The innards of the jar had been corroded with perhaps some sort of acidic juice or vinegar, and the whole of it was very odd and out of place amongst the other artifacts of that era that we're being dug up. Others were found twelve in all. And no one could figure out what the anomalous objects were supposed to be or what they were used for. At the time, the strains jars, and the inexplicable contents were put on display in the National Museum of Iraq and sort of forgotten about. Little. Did anyone know that these unassuming little pots would turn out to be a persistent historical mystery? It would not be until nineteen thirty eight that anyone would take a really good look at the artifacts when German archaeologist Wilhelm Koenig. was at the museum and saw one sitting there amongst other objects on from the site including other similar jars. The curious objects drew his attention and he had them studied deducing that they were from the third century BC and were a form of crude galvanic cells or basically electric batteries. He deduced that the iron and the copper were mounted in such a way as to insulate them with the Bitumen. Or asphalt after which an electrolyte such as vinegar or some other acidic substance had been poured in to produce a voltage difference generated by the medals. He speculated. This would have been used for electroplating layers of precious metals such as gold onto objects. Whatever the batteries were four. If. That is what they were. This would all be very interesting indeed because it would usurp the generally held view that the battery was invented in eighteen hundred by the Count Sandro. Volta. Whose name is indeed where we get the word volt. If. These were indeed batteries. Then it would mean that human beings have created this technology thousands of years earlier than previously thought. Koenig would go on to write a paper on this hypothesis in nineteen forty after World War Two came and the Baghdad battery was forgotten once more. After the war, a Willard F M gray of the General Electric High Voltage Laboratory in Pittsfield. Massachusetts. Did his own experiment with the battery and found that it could produce up to two volts of electricity or about a fortieth of the power of a triple a battery. And other experiments produce similar results further strengthening koenigs case. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty German scientists, Egyptologist Arne. Eggen. Brecht. Found that the voltage could be increased. If several of the batteries were linked together and demonstrated that the devices could produce enough electricity to gold-plate a small statue when a gold cyanide solution was used. In more modern times in two thousand, five, the discovery channel. TV Show mythbusters. It was shown that tin replicas of the Baghdad battery linked together could produce five volts of power. The problem with the experiments linking the jars together is that there is no evidence that the original jars ever had any sort of wires or electrical connections for links between them. Although the idea that the Baghdad batteries were some sort of batteries was and still is widely accepted by many. It is unknown for what purpose such a device would have been used as there are no artifacts from the time of anything that would have required such power source, and while many experiments work on the assumption that the power was used for electroplating there is no evidence of gold plated items produced in such a way from the era these batteries were supposedly found. Besides electroplating, it has been speculated that the devices were used for electrotherapy of some kind for some theatrical or ritual purpose or even that these were merely vessels for holding papyrus scrolls. Other more fringe ideas are that these were from aliens. Made to power some as yet unknown and mysterious ancient technological device. No one really knows and sadly we probably never will as the original batteries vanished during the two thousand three Iraq invasion when the national museum was looted and thousands of exhibitions were stolen or destroyed. We are left to wonder what these strange object objects were, who made them, and for what purpose why have there been no others found. Where they use for powering something medicinal purposes or were they simply some board persons little science project Among the many instances of ancient technology that have been found over the years, the Baghdad batteries have gone on to be continually discussed and talked about. As well as unsolved. That's pretty cool. I remember learning about these but there's a there's some pretty cool pictures where they took they cut them in half and showed like cross sections, the the yeah they straight up. Like batteries. I I wonder about that statement about well, there's no evidence of gold plated objects from the area in which these were supposedly made. I'm just like, okay. Well, does that mean they're argued plated objects from other eras that are still very ancient. Maybe they. Didn't date them properly. Yeah I'm that's what I'm wondering I'm like okay. Did to have we found electric plated objects. A was kind of taking that for granted like we have. Yeah I. Don't I don't actually know. There's gold pleaded thing. Yeah. But is it that we were just talking about the some of the wheels? Yeah. But is that is that Lee electroplating? Gold Leaf Gold Leaf yielded. Yeah. It's guild. Is it I mean electroplating is you know? You can electric you can. I think you can use a lot less gold if you're just electroplating rather than using a leaf. Watchers asking what would occur if you took his batteries in place strong magnets in Mercury. He didn't say Margarita. I don't know. I mean, put a put a magnet next to a battery doesn't do much and yeah. It's pretty cool though that's The whole like well, there's no evidence they were ever connected together. Yeah. Yeah that doesn't mean no wires. Yeah. No wires wherever found. Okay. So They could have been lamps. Relapse and they look like I love lamp. All right and I got one more totally different topic but. of interest to me. Escape, tards produce evidence that prehistoric flying reptiles probably had feathers. Actually that was refuted I'm sorry I read that. Script yards refute evidence that prehistoric flying reptiles probably had feathers. So. Terrorists are expert Dr David from the University of. Light Chester's center of for Paleobiology Research and Professor Dave Martill of the University of Portsmouth have examined the evidence that. Terrorists Soares. Had, feathers and believe they were in fact bald. They have responded to a suggestion by a group of his colleagues led by. Example Yang some terrorists or fossils show evidence of feather like branching filaments, Proto feathers on the animal skin. Dr Yang from Nanjing University and colleagues presented their argument in two thousand eighteen paper in the journal Nature Ecology and evolution. Now. Unwin and martill have offered an alternative non feather explanation for the fossil evidence in the same journal. While this may seem like academic. minute. Minutia it act. I don't think I've ever read that Minutia Minutia. A while this may seem like academic minutia. It actually huge paleontological indications feathers feathered territories would mean that the very earliest feathers first appeared on an ancestor shared by both Tara Soars and dinosaurs since it is unlikely that something. So complex developed separately in two different groups of animals. Right. Standard Model. Here Since synthesis. Theory this would mean that the very first feather like elements evolved at least eighty million years earlier than currently thought. It would also suggest that all dinosaurs started out with feathers or proto feathers, but some groups such as Sarah. Pods subsequently lost them again. The complete opposite of currently accepted theory. The evidence rests on tiny hair like filaments less than one tenth of a millimeter in diameter which have been identified in about thirty terrorists or fossils. Among these Yang and colleagues were only able to find just three specimens on which these filaments seem to exhibit a branching structure typical of Proto feathers. Unwin and martill proposed that these are not proto feathers at all but tough fibers which form part of the internal structure of the territory's wing membrane and that all the branching effect may simply be the result of these fibers decaying an unraveling. Dr Unwin said. The idea of feather feathered territories goes back to the nineteenth century but the fossil evidence was then and still is very weak. Exceptional claims require exceptional evidence course we have the former but not the latter. Professor Martin noted that either way paleontologists will have to carefully reappraise ideas about the ecology of these ancient flying reptiles. He. said. If they really did have feathers. How did that make them look and did they exhibit the same fantastic variety of colors exhibited by birds? And if they didn't have others than, how would they keep warm at night? What limits did this have on their geographic range they stay away from colder northern climates as most reptiles do today and how did they thermo regulate? The clues are so cryptic that we are still a long way from working out just how these amazing animals worked. The paper no proto feathers on Tara Soares is published this week in nature ecology and evolution. So yeah. It goes against. I mean basically the the the problem is that it goes against the evolutionary theory. Yeah. It pushes back when feathers had to be developed and that makes them have to go away later. Yeah. That's right on some things and not other things. Yeah. Why is it extraordinary that they would have feathers? I mean. What are they saying? What what what what, what does he? What exactly is he saying that's extraordinary about that. Aside from the other model considerations of yeah I think that's that is. The thing that's extraordinary about it because they they they've got these fibers for these things and he's like. He's saying alright. It's an extraordinary claim to say that these things that look like there's their providers, right? Because that doesn't fit our model. That's yeah okay. Yeah tiny hair like filaments less than one tenth of a millimeter in diameter which have been identified in about thirty tariffs or fossils. Yeah. But he calls that week evidence, right? Yeah. I. Just I like that because I'm thinking of going back to the. Hybridization Yeah it's with that idea. It's not inconceivable that you would have them appear and then go away on certain other creatures because of. Hybridization with actual reptiles that don't that have scales not feathers. Yeah. Yep. But if you're following. Know like you have to have the. Species. Ambiguous. Word doesn't make sense but. I think it's Totally plausible. Agree. Anyway. So what do I know what was? What is he saying here? Do we pronounce this place? Wrong? Like stir is Lester by Lester. Lester. Thank you, watcher. He's circling some story about. Technologies Mercury based Gilding that we still don't understand. He's Watchers always trying to being mercury into this. Anyway, that's all I got your break time. All right. Thanks. and. And we're back ladies and gentlemen. The. Final segment. Brothers of the serpent podcast for this week. And it was. Sold. Out of out of arrangement. But here we go with some listener communications to wrap it up. And we're already no five minutes from two hours so. We're we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA make this a kind of a short segment. That's right. But we love you is I was well. All. Right. Let's hear these communications. What are you guys? All right. This one is from So I, we haven't been doing this for a while. So these go back to this is September the second. Yeah. So we got a months worth of communications. I think I think that's right. Yeah we've had a lot of guests and stuff. Yeah. When did we do the bonus owed that was the last time red read. Yeah. It's been. It's been a minute. Yeah. Geologic probably should've checked bonus Oh to find out what the last one I read what? I didn't do that. Well, why are you looking at this? I want to say Thanks to an. We the last episode we open a package and there was another package from an. That was addressed to. Me and Laura. And I hadn't opened it. It was just in the House and. I want to say thank you so much. An Made blankets. And like. Crochet and they're just absolutely amazing. They're beautiful. Laura was just floored. there. I don't pay attention to the to the whole color scheme type of stuff I guess I have no no sense of that. The Lord does like she's like Oh my God. They. Match everything that Lars with the House and they're just they're just. Just in and of themselves, they're they're incredible works of art. Yeah and she originally was trying to make one for for baby sister. The new one coming. And ended up making one for everybody in the family. It's it was it was pretty awesome. They were all labeled with the pattern style and just Lee is just. Actual warm and fuzzies. Yeah. Actual warm and fuzzies and I was. I. Was saying that about the backers we opened here in the queue. Warm fuzzies. and. Like yeah. They were really inside and I'm not allowed. To wrap vats of wine with these blankets. That's right and will not allow. Specifically disallowed that that's right. Yeah. So I wanted to say thank you so much from the bottom of my heart and and Laura absolutely loves them to. They're just they're just amazing. Beautiful. So they showed them to me they were super stoked and. The Wizard Is Now in the tower. So thank you. Yes. That's right. Right. She sent me a wizard for the for the tower. So yeah. This one's called listening to. Well I just. Okay. It's called listening to number one, twenty, two from Peter. He says, snacks, you are reading serpent in the sky which I did read years ago. And about sound and resonance in how everything resonates with its own frequency. Have you ever heard of Royal Raymond Rife. Oh. My God. He has built a machine. He built a machine in the thirties that freaking kills cancer. And it should done of other maladies. It works by using a carrier wave to send the resonant frequency of the particular cancels cancer cell, which destroys it. That's right. Yeah. Of course, just like killing the electric car in the seventies and literally killing people who develop over unity machines over the years Royal Raymond Rights Machine has been kept from us by the powers that be I. Hope you look into this and do a whole podcast on him Racan. From Peter. All right. I haven't looked into the guy but but I. DO remember watching a video. I don't remember. What the title of it was or anything about it, but other than it was. Basically. That idea this guy had was just looking at cancer cells and it's like well, they're they're objects they have resonant frequencies so and I think these frequencies are in the. ultrasonic range. And so he tested out a bunch of different frequencies and found one that resonated this specific cell that he was targeting. Yeah, and of course. Whenever you find that? You crank it up high enough and it will break it a threat, right? Yes, this is starting to ring bills Really Yeah. No Pun intended right. No Pun intended But what I'm saying is I think I did read this before and you gave that exact almost that exact same spiel I think Oh, on the podcast. Just proving folks that we we actually think these things about these stuff. If that's actually happened. Because I'm like I read the email I'm like, did I read this? I think he said this. Just, wasn't sure if you read it to me on the show or not yeah that's right. Maybe it wasn't maybe I. Didn't read it to you on the show. Well. It doesn't matter still pertinent. It's kind of hard to suppress I. I'm I'm kind of a script hard about the idea that that's being suppressed. It's Kinda hard to suppress that knowledge. Yeah, I mean. that. If you find somethings resonant frequency new crank up in amplitude and of a of a you create that frequency. It's GonNa break that thing. When you get loud enough. The other thing that's weird to me about it is the name. The, whole alliteration royal. Raymond. Rife. I'm dislike okay that that's a little weird but people maybe were being script hard yeah. John Kennedy. Okay. So we got a couple of comments. Doesn't matter which episode it was just a person who is staying. They discover that they didn't need to mess around with Youtube or background APPS, or MP three downloads and they can just come to the actual website and hear us. and then later they said well, actually in the end I to download it but that's still awesome. Bypass. The Youtube Happy Chappy. So I just want to say like, yes but you can just use use a podcast APP. That's you know. If you get any podcast APP. They're pulling a popular ones out there overcast great. Allow people like that podcast addict beyond pod even the ones that come with your phone you know Google play. If you just look there's the serpent in the PODCAST APP it'll find the RSS feed and then you'll have every show and you you don't have to mess around with all that other stuff. So yeah well, you get the last hundred posts. That's right in the RSS feed yeah. So. If you're trying to go way back to episode to. Yeah you have to go to the website. That's right. That's right. But yeah, it's podcast get podcast APP. That's what I'm trying to say. We got a lot of questions about the music. Recently. So, we should re explain to people laid on me. Specifics. But basically, what they're saying is where where can I get the music play on the show? the show. Yeah. Well it's a bunch of music that I've made over the years. Quite a bit of it actually I made on road trips that we took during the road trip I have my laptop and I have logic and logic has all these. Synthesizers and what they call audio instruments. And Russ's driving for hours and hours and hours and hours, and I'm looking at the scenery and. You know I just start making. And then wherever we stay whatever we're doing, I just keep when I get a chance at night or whatever work on those songs and these songs come about. And then we get back home and we get busy again and then I never do anything with them after that. Yeah. So that's where a lot of the music comes from. And so they're. A lot of it is you know what I would call techno because it's it's all software. I'm not actually playing live instruments, but then occasionally, I'll go back over it and lay down a guitar something when I have a chance and then So many of these songs are just old. Chunks of loops that I created. And Eventually bounced it out what we say in you know in audio editing or whatever you bounce it, which means you take all the tracks you turn it into just a single song file. And I consider them incomplete. Them. And Always, thought well, maybe someday, I'll publish a techno album and I'll go in complete all these songs and give them the proper buildups and bridges and things that they need to make them complete. But. Of course, I never did it and then we started the podcast and I started like we need bumper music Yep I've got all these pieces of middles of songs. We joke about this like all middles of it's like middle's there's no intro there's outrage. Some of them are complete. Yeah there. Recently in the past four years since we've been doing the podcast and and I've come into the studio wanting to do something. And come up with stuff I've had Daniel over here. Our good buddy plays. Bass. Does Dan. Yeah and we've just created funky stuff and I and I'm always like all I need is one minute and he'd one minute of gold yeah. I will take that minute and put it on the podcast yeah. and. So Daniel, of I've recorded. Hours of music but you know there's like one thing that's really good because we're just making stuff up as we go and like, okay, I'm going to take this chunk. And so we have our ultra music. This is how this is how the music for the podcast goes. So No, I don't have. There's no place to go to get this body of work other than just listening to the shows and yeah. And it's it's sometimes it is you playing instruments other times it's it's all mid east of right you built it electronically. Yeah. The early stuff but there's some where you're just playing an acoustic guitar. You got some trump trumpet. you get Daniel near to play the bass. There's a lot of live live instrumentation and I'm just saying that originally this started out with me making these random models of songs. Right right. It was all on the roads. I didn't have any live instrumentation. Yeah. Well, that's not true either folks he would bust out the guitar she in the passenger seat guitar was like some. He'd reached back there and grab this old beat up guitar and he pulled up like check this out and we've been driving for twelve hours and he's like he starts singing this ridiculous songs like I got these lyrics. And then he started playing and I find out about part way through the song that he was trolling me because he's making it up on the spot. And saying about the truck that was in front of us or whatever. So yeah. But those that's hard to record and the windows are down. There's beer everywhere. Well, there's not beer because we don't. Smoke don't open, beers. So yeah. The pieces of the songs that are on the podcast are it's like. I started to think of it as like. As an artist, every artist has a portfolio. Of all their completed works and those are like albums or or whatever. But in the artist's studio, there's just unfinished shit everywhere babe papers with Sketches Napkins, pieces of sketches on them. You know random's scraps of paper books full of uncompleted things paintings that aren't complete with with some paint on them in sketch everywhere, and that's what we use on the podcast is all that stuff the scraps yet her scrambling around that never been completed that have cool parts cool ideas but they aren't really complete songs and some of these songs that I've played on the podcast over the years are actually being completed. That's right and. They will be like there's there's quite a few of them that are going to be published in the future of all live. And you know live instrumentation and all that kind of stuff. So it is going to happen. However. Creating an album of all of the bumper music. Is going to take a lot of work. Because really, I would just be publishing like a snippet of. Yeah something that really has no beginning and end it just. Boom there's all this everything. That, you hear within you hear one thirty second bit of it without talking you over it, and then it fades out. And that's right. So I don't know. Maybe I'll do it. It's one day when I get time, but it's it's it'd be time consuming. Yeah. Put it all into something. And we always tell people you know fifty dollar dynasty is the name of the band. You can go check out for the dynasties website. They've got a youtube page they've got a facebook page and there's lots of samples of their music there. But most of it isn't music we play on the show. It's all still. You know mostly written by Kyle he's got other people in the band that help anti has. One of the main writers to and I've played a lot of ties. Some of the bumper music, we use his ties stuff. So it has sort of has the same field but. He's trying to me to play this China's. Use My China's Sometime when you're talking about ancient Chinese stuff uses song and it's just crazy like every single Chinese cliches. I can do that. All. Right. This is a comment on UFO's part one. From Ernest. He says, I'm about two hours in you've just returned from a break and are trying to express how physical and non physical entities can exist and how non physical entities have technology to show up here. Flurry completely different and very sound wave looking highly recommend you read. Demonic reality by Patrick. I can't condense a book hundreds of pages long into a paragraph. But Harbour explains how all entities exist in a demonic reality and shows choose to express their current reality in different ways. I have read extensively for many years on UFO's alternative archaeology things fourteen anything weird and for me, this is the most important book on these subjects. His view is both complete and coherent is he right? Maybe being right is impossible. What's important is having a framework for understanding. That's cool. Makes me think about? Do. We project ourselves or pieces of our reality to other realities without even knowing it. You know. Because if other realities are doing this to ours are we not doing it back to them? You know? Seems Yeah it's a that's thing. Maybe. They're not doing it on purpose maybe some of them are we're doing it on purpose maybe were accidentally doing it all the time. It's hard to say otherwise I kind of stick to the idea but yeah, I need to. Maybe, Mardi knows about that guy check out the book yeah. Well, pretty long have y'all skip all that one for. Pretty long to you it's right to long when. We are going to be starting a book report soon, that's right. So we will have more time. To do this. Funny. I'll do this one and it'll be the last one. Is called system without. Without the aliens or the Wu. From Keith Hybrid Serpents Hello from three point zero four, eight meter by three point zero four eight meter metric cube. Yes. I am one of those faking metric Brits. Far more interested in ancient civilization than a spiritual or alien mythology one significant researcher of repute, a contemporary of such. He took a far more grounded view of the Sumerian legends Christian O'Brien trained geologist spent most of his life working at the fertile. Crescent eventually making it to the CEO. of an the Persian Oil Company. which was renamed BP and fifty, nine, hundred, fifty, four, the author to rebel relevant books the genius of the few in the shining ones. Yes. So I'm familiar with this guy's work. Unfortunately Christian passed away many years ago but his nephew. Marriage as researched his uncle's work and has been known to make the odd but far too rare appearance at conferences podcasts. Yes. I have listened to every minute Edmund Marriage presentation I could find. I agree that he has a very interesting take and he's basically trying to. His not as research, it's all his uncle's he admits that and he's just like look. I have. He inherited it. Inherited from him and it's just stacks and stacks of stuff, and he's just trying to explain to people what his uncle thought about the shining ones and the new, and it's all disguised take on the I've told you about. Cows like looking at me this whole time like what? What I'm drinking mean mugging right now what do you mean you've listened to every single? Word of this guy well, I told you about him I was like you got check this dude out he's he's A. This is such esque type stuff but this was years and years ago probably. Yeah but yes, Edna marriage is great. So he says the great thing is later researchers such as handcock done Carlson give all Anthony West shock all work perfectly with O'Brien's interpretation. And no aliens or magic men with white beards hanging on a cloud is needed just the genius of the few. You will find all of his stuff at the at www dot golden age project, Dot Org dot UK man, he needs to change that. WWW DOT sich and his bitch dot com. That's right. We'll give him the. Yeah. There is plenty of interesting. Stuff on the website in addition to Christian. O'Brien's original work on the site. There is an interesting summary of the Sich and versus O'Brien argument. Don't get me wrong. I also considered since work to be incredibly important and I don't condone the efforts of the ancient alien and spiritual researchers they do raise interesting questions. Which require answers Or I don't I don't condemn the efforts of the ancient alien spiritual researchers because they do raise interesting questions apologies. If you are already aware of this work, I have often heard you discussing civilizations but never mentioned O'Brien enough of the slithering offer a cup of tea and a cucumber sandwich. Keith in the discord, he is Z. Surfer Damn Brits snakes. and. Apology accepted I have heard of this guy's working I've listened to all of that guy's presentations. Ever heard of this guy in my life and I've never heard. Him. Thanks but yes, I. Did. Listen to many of you know every one of Edmund marriages presentations that I could find. and I found his take on the. Shining ones as his uncle call them fascinating. Basically, the shining ones is his uncle, the on Inaki. That's what he calls the new the shining ones I can't remember the details because it has been years but you're right. It was a fascinating thing and I encourage people to go to take a look. probably read the books but yeah, he did do a lot of research and he was in the area for decades just like Bob. Johnson. That's cool. Yeah. Man I'll check it out. All right. Well. You can get a hold of us at. The serpent at Geneva com check out the website but there's a serpent dot com that's where all the Backlog episodes are to get them in your feed, which only contains the last hundred objects. That we post. A commercial. Or some? Ridiculous. Thing that we make it's not a full podcast, right? So. Yeah. Go there. Check out. On the website took out the Nikola pedia and the glossary of terms. and. Check out the snakeskins maybe Shirt cellphone chase. Pillows. Coffee Cup. So that's Great. Copy and Donate to our pyramid schemes, Industry Pyramids, and thank you to everybody who has. And also to everybody who has cintas. Changed on the APP. Need to tell me. I can't read the comments. Yeah. So on my phone, which is where I normally go update at the half and I've been looking at all these all these. Payments and I can't see the comment so I need to. Get on the browser. Figure that out but. I see donations rolling in and just. 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NPR News: 11-12-2020 6PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 2 months ago

NPR News: 11-12-2020 6PM ET

"Live from npr news. i'm jack speer another day of president trump contesting the election results and president-elect joe biden moving forward with his transition. Npr's timer keith. Explains it's not clear how long things will continue to go on like this. President-elect biden hell the call with democratic congressional leaders according to a statement from the transition. They discussed the urgent need for a corona virus. Relief package especially given the rapidly. Rising numbers of cases and hospitalizations biden also spoke with the pope who offered his. Congratulations president trump. Meanwhile continues to tweet conspiracy theories about election fraud and voting machine errors. None of which have been substantiated. Although republican senators are largely sticking with the president by saying every legal vote should be counted. Several are saying that biden should be given access to intelligence briefings and other information as would be expected for the president-elect tamra keith. npr news former labor secretary. Alex kosta exercised poor judgment when he served as a federal prosecutor overseeing the child sex abuse case against financier jeffrey epstein as npr's ryan lucas reports. That's the conclusion of a justice department review of the investigation into epstein more than a decade ago. The justice department's office of professional responsibility looked at the criminal. Investigation led by the us attorney's office in southern florida in two thousand seven and two thousand and eight epsteins illegal sexual activity with underage girls. The doj report does not find that prosecutors engaged in professional misconduct. But it does find that upstairs. Victims were not treated with the forthrightness and sensitivity. The department expects the report also takes aim at then. Us attorney alex kosta saying he exercised poor judgment by opting to resolve the epstein case through a non-prosecution agreement the cost of step down as president. Trump's labor secretary in two thousand nineteen after questions arose about his handling of the case ryan lucas. Npr news washington. Six us troops were among the eight people killed when their helicopter crash during a routine flight in egypt. The americans were part of the peacekeeping mission. That's been in place for decades. Here's npr's greg murray. The helicopter went down in the sinai peninsula near a town on egypt's red sea coast. The americans were part of a multinational peacekeeping operation established after egypt and israel reached a peace deal in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight officials for the peacekeeping missions at the crash was believed to be an accident in addition to the americans to other peacekeepers were killed one from france in one from the czech republic. One american survived the crash and was being treated for injuries gregory. Npr news as a number of reported corona virus cases keeps rising. A number of school. Systems are giving up in terms of in person classes that includes detroit indianapolis philadelphia and suburban minneapolis on wall street today. The dow is down three hundred and seventeen points. The nasdaq closed down. Seventy six points today. you're listening to npr with the corner of coronavirus pandemic widening and any vaccine still a ways off. The world's top central bankers are saying the global economy is in need of further help but a reserve board. Chairman jerome powell. Speaking online conference held by the european central bank said the next few months could be challenging as the virus spreads. He said congress may do more in terms of stimulus. However thus far in additional coronavirus relief has been bottled up in congress will be award winning playwright screenwriter and director israel horvitz decide in his new york home today or monday rather have cancer. He was eighty. One a prolific author. His reputation was tarnished when nine women accused him of sexual assault in two thousand seventeen. Jeff london has the story. The massachusetts sporran playwright came into prominence with his off broadway. Play the indian wants the bronx which starred then unknown al pacino in nineteen sixty eight. It won horovitz an ob. While most of his plays were performed off broadway he had two plays performed on broadway horovitz penned an autobiographical screenplay author author which also starred pacino. He was founder of the gloucester stage company but the accusations of sexual assault for which harvests apologized lead to his removal from that theater among his six surviving. Children is adam. Horovitz of the beastie boys for npr news. I'm jeff london in new york. Futures prices fell today oil down. Thirty three cents a barrel to end the session at forty one twelve a barrel in the new york mercantile exchange. I'm jack speer npr news.

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NPR News: 07-19-2019 5AM ET

NPR News Now

05:14 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 07-19-2019 5AM ET

"Support for this podcast and the following message from discover with the discovery miles card they automatically matched the miles you earn at the end of your first year discover it miles limitations apply discover match for new card members only learn more at discover dot dot com slash travel live from N._p._R.. News in Washington I'm Dave Mattingly. Iran is denying the U._S.. Destroyed an Iranian drone in the straight of Hormuz President Trump says the U._S. boxer. Yes Sir took down the drone when it came within a thousand yards of the ship and multiple warnings were ignored. The President says it was a defensive measure in response to what he calls Iran's provocative and hostile action Iran's deputy foreign minister says his country. Entry hasn't lost any drones in the Strait of Hormuz or elsewhere. The trump administration is looking to Argentina as it seeks to build an international coalition to confront Iran N._p._R.'s Franko or Donas reports secretary of State Eight. Mike pompeo is traveling to South America this week where he is expected to join Argentine officials when they announced plans to designate the militant group Hezbollah as a terrorist organization the designation against Hezbollah which is supported by Iran Iran would give the trump administration another important ally in its push to build global support against around the trump administration has struggled to build some more among traditional European allies who have warned rising tensions could lead to war. You're but the Argentine government has its own history with Hezbollah. It is also depended on U._S.. Economic Support Franco or Donas N._p._R.. News Washington President Trump says he plans to nominate Eugene Scalia to be the next labor secretary. He is the son of late U._S.. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. The President tweeted his intentions last night less than a week after Labor Secretary Alexandra Acosta resigned amid criticism over his handling of two thousand eight plea Lee deal involving financier Jeffrey Epstein Heat advisories and warnings are posted this morning from Nebraska to the Carolinas to Maine. The National Weather Service says high temperatures this afternoon will likely be near one hundred degrees. In cities such as Chicago Washington and Raleigh North Carolina N._p._R.. Shannon Van Sant has more on the extreme heat gentry. Trotter is a founder of cool down Saint Louis. His nonprofit provides air conditioners in utility assistance to low income income families. The elderly and disabled been very hectic. It has been blazing hot. We're worried about now is making sure that people especially seniors in the physically disabled stay hydrated that they have a place to be cool at by Saturday much of the East Coast from Virginia to New York City is likely to see temperatures at or close to a hundred degrees Shannon Vincent N._p._R.. News authorities in Japan say the animation studio in. Kyoto where thirty three people were killed yesterday in a suspected arson attack had no fire sprinklers or indoor hydrants. They're not legally required there. Witnesses say a man sprayed liquid accelerate before setting the fire. This is N._p._R.. Our news from Washington Isis is claiming responsibility for a deadly bombing in Egypt authorities in Cairo. Say A suicide bomber killed two people and wounded three others in Egypt's northern Sinai Peninsula early yesterday yesterday. An armored Egyptian military vehicle was the apparent target today marks forty years since the Sandinista Revolution began in Nicaragua as Maria Martin reports Nicaraguans remained divided on their views of the revolution led by. Nine Daniel Ortega analysts estimate about one third of Nicaraguan still support President Ortega. They remember him as a young son that is to rebel writing triumphantly into Managua This Day in nineteen seventy nine victorious over the dictator Anestachio Somoza but forty years later many got wants feel Ortega has betrayed the ideals of the southern Easter Revolution that since he became president for the second time in two thousand seven he's weakened state institutions and attack act the rule of law international organizations blame Ortega's government for a brutal crackdown on opponents which they say has resulted in over three hundred dead hundreds imprisoned and many other Nagata once forced to leave their country over the last this year for N._P._R.. News I'm Martin Stocks in Asia ended the day higher analysts say the gains were driven by a couple of factors renewed hopes for progress in trade talks between the U._S. and China and comments from New York Federal Reserve.

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The Continents

Everything Everywhere Daily

08:31 min | 3 months ago

The Continents

"How many continents are there that sounds like a really easy question after all there are only so many giant land masses on the planet and we can easily count them with their fingers yet for something seemingly. So simple answer to this question can be surprisingly complicated learn more about the continents on this episode of everything everywhere daily. This episode is sponsored by Scottevest believe it or not. I've been to every single continent and during my travels around the world. I brought my Scottevest here with me to every single one Scottevest shirts jackets and may have made it easier for me to get through airports to carry my stuff when I'm just walking around town and to make sure I leave nothing behind but I'm walking on an ice field and Antarctica you can get 15% off your next order by going to school, and using coupon code everything everywhere all one word at check out. And there are seven continents the executive producer of everything everywhere daily is James Hoffa hold it can't be that easy. Right? I mean Mike podcast episodes are pretty short, but it can't be as simple as just saying there are seven continents know it's not that easy the standard list of contents, which most people learn is as follows Asia Europe Africa North America South America, Australia and Antarctica before we get into the weeds of that list. However, we should Define what a continent is the standard definition of a continent is continents are large land masses off with clearly defined boundaries and separated by oceans. Okay, that's a fine working day-to-day definition, but certainly scientists must have something better than that and they do the Geological Society of America defines a continent as follows quote the glossary of geology defines a continent as one of Earth's major land masses including both dry land and Continental shelves Home. It is generally agreed that continents have all the following attributes one high elevation relative to Regions Florida of oceanic crust to a broad range of salacious igneous metamorphic and sedimentary rock three thicker crust and lower seismic velocity structure than oceanic crust or regions and for well-defined limits around a large enough area to be considered a continent rather than a micro account or Continental fragment and quote. Okay, that's a bit of a help but it leaves a lot of unanswered questions for starters. How in any of these definitions are Asia and Europe separate continents? Asia and Europe are part of one big Eurasian landmass. There is nothing that separates the two the traditional division of the continents is the Ural Mountains, but to be honest that was selected by Russia a long time ago. So they could say that Moscow was a European Capital the divisions between Europe and Asia are mostly cultural not geologic or Geographic. You can take a train from London to Singapore and thousands by any strict definition you want to use there isn't much of an excuse for separating Europe and Asia, so there should be six continents not seven, right? Well, if we do that then we should apply the same standard to the Americas North and South America are connected there one can take you as land mass with a northern and southern lobe sure gets near the middle down your Panama, but why should that matter? There are no roads or Railways directly connecting North and South America because of the Darien Gap in southern Panama, but that's more an issue of policy and budgeting for the nation of birth. Not an insurmountable barrier more over the Americas can't even really make a claim to cultural differences like Europe and Asia can so maybe North and South America are really one continent to see if we can't let a skinny piece of land that a canal get in the way of a continent then we also have to address the small fact that Eurasia is connected to Africa over on the Sinai Peninsula. Millions of humans migrated over that strip of land as people walked in and out of Africa. It's all one massive connected landmass. So maybe afro-eurasia should be one giant, as well that would give us four continents. But what about Australia Australia isn't anywhere close in size to afro-eurasia or the Americas remember our definition up top says large enough area to be considered a continent rather than a micro-continent. Why wouldn't Australia just be a micro-continent whatever that is after all if we count Australia then maybe we need to do the same for Greenland or Madagascar. Well, if we don't include Australia and have just three continents afro-eurasia, the Americas and Antarctica safer Antarctica, which was unknown at the time. This is what most people thought several hundred years ago. They were two large continents which could roughly be thought of as the old world and the new world and speaking of Antarctica while nothing Antarctica. You're cool. Don't worry your continent. It's all good. But maybe this whole approach isn't the right way to be looking at it. This is mostly just looking at a map since the Age of Exploration science has come a long way, especially geology. We know much more about how the earth works or now we're of something called plate tectonics. We know that hundreds of millions of years ago. All of the continents were once smushed together into a supercontinent called Pangaea dead. Maybe the answer is in collecting all of the pieces of Pangaea geology also has something else for us. There is a very distinct difference between the rocks found on comments and the rocks found at the bottom of the sea continental crust is on average two point seven grams per cubic centimeter oceanic crust is about 3 grams per cubic centimeter. This is helpful because we can weed out the islands that are made out of oceanic crust. Hawaii is a good example Hawaii isn't made out of continental crust its composition is closer to the seafloor, but it just happens to be sticking out of the surface of the ocean wage for now give it a few million years. So if we use this approach where we at Eurasia is still out of luck Europe in Asia are still one giant tectonic plate using this approach North or South America are not however, in fact, there's a small plate between the two the Caribbean plate which includes Nicaragua Haiti and Puerto Rico North America would actually include all of Greenland half of month. And we're borders the Eurasian plate and the other border with Eurasian plate would be an Eastern Siberia, which is also technically part of the North American Plate. Africa is once again separate but then so is the girl in Peninsula which has its own tectonic plate likewise. Most of South Asia south of the Himalayas is part of the Indian plate which would be a continent to Australia is back in the club and it's bringing the island Guinea with it along with parts of New Zealand using this definition of tectonic plates. We now have nine continents. However, this is only looking at major tectonic plates, we could further divided Africa box putting off the Somali plate which takes most of East Africa with it as well as Madagascar southeast. Asia can be split off with the sun to play which is most of Southeast Asia and the Philippines played which is most effective means at this rate. You would be difficult to even come up with a number some plates might only have a tiny section of land and it doesn't even stick on a map as being a separate thing. You need to look at geologic maps and no one really does suck. We could have almost two dozen continents by this approach which would be very confusing in one really help anyone at this point. I Look to Dan Montello a geography professor at the University of California Santa Barbara who noted, No one can say as a matter of principled fact how many continents there are because the decisions are largely based on convention and Convention goes in and out of fashion over time. There are simply no Czar or c e o of comments or any other ultimate Authority. So it's pretentious for anyone to claim that they have an authoritative answer unquote. Well, then maybe it's just easier to go back to what I said at the start of the episode. There are seven continents. Executive producer of everything everywhere daily is James McCulloch. Please remember to support the show over at patreon.com where you can get exclusive merchandise and to leave a review on Apple podcasts leave or five star review to have your review read online.

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CNN10 - 8/29/19

CNN 10 (video)

10:00 min | 1 year ago

CNN10 - 8/29/19

"The in coral is used for c._n._n. Ten we're happy to see you this thursday two days away from the long labor day weekend parts of the u._s. southeast could be whether it's a hurricane over that weekend yesterday. A storm named dory was spinning over the atlantic headed toward the u._s. Virgin islands and eastern puerto rico the silver lining is this system is not as strong as hurricane maria. That was a category four storm that smashed into puerto rico in two thousand seventeen. The bad news czyz dorian could cause further damage on an island. That's still recovering from maria. There are still tarps on some of the roofs that maria damaged their still weak spots. What's in the electrical system that maria knocked out so puerto. Rico has declared a state of emergency opening hundreds of shelters to residents and prepping seventy hospitals in case ace of injuries from dorian forecasters have had their hands full trying to figure out where this storm's gonna go just two days ago they projected that it would roll south of puerto rico rico and barrel over the dominican republic last night dory and looked like it would miss that country altogether because it turned northward though heavy rain and tropical gle storm-force winds were still possible what happens after this is anyone's guess dorian was a category one hurricane as of last night and meteorologist think it'll strengthen further after it passes by the islands and gets back out over the atlantic dorian already caused flooding in martinique when it was a tropical storm if it becomes is a category three hurricane which some scientists expect dorian could have wind speeds of up to one hundred fifteen miles per hour and be capable of serious damage and the national hurricane center says it could then approach florida or other parts of the american southeast over the weekend. The forecasters still don't know if where or when that will happen been one thing they do know is what to name storms. He lived in homestead florida in one thousand nine hundred ninety. Two andrew is a name you will never forget in two thousand and five if you lived in new orleans area katrina military started naming storms after their wives is there girlfriends but none of these names were made public so nineteen fifty everything changed several storms formed out in the atlantic about the same time it created a lot of confusion infusion so the weather bureau said okay let's start naming storms and they actually started by using the world war two alphabet able baker charlie dog easy but this created confusion as well because every year the storm names worth the same wasn't until one thousand nine hundred seventy nine that we started alternating male and female names we recycle that list every six years in the atlantic basin then we use english spanish and french names no storms are named after particular person in fact you can't request storm to be named after you that entire process is is handled by the world meteorological organization. A storm name will be retired if it is too costly or deadly and it would be inappropriate to use it in future years in fact since nineteen fifty there have been nearly eighty storm names retired and what happens if we go through all of the storm names well. It happened in two thousand thousand five. We ended up going to the greek outfit so that's what's in a name took a long time to get here but just like each individual name east storm tends to have its own personality analogy mm-hmm removed <music> <music> in a luke kuhn <music> trivia which of these places is known as the land of fire and ice cream monaca iceland indonesia or the peruvian andes because it's features include both volcano and the inland glaciers iceland is called the land of byron ice. It's also one of the most popular countries in the world for adventure tourism or adventure travel a type of trip that might include glued physical activity interaction with other cultures and spending time in nature as an industry. It's growing but it's not for everyone. Adventure tourists often get get outside their comfort zone for some. That's the goal they may be taking part of dangerous hikes are activities and then maybe traveling through hostile areas but adventure tourism can't allow people to see firsthand something exotic that they wouldn't see back home. A one hundred five mile trail through egypt is one example <music> daybreak over the red sea mountains guys. This is one of my favorite mountains is called. Jebel guitar kind of looks like flames rising up however fire until recently of tourism path. There's peaks are a familiar sight for british explorer. Ben hoffa who five years ago set out to create the fast long distance trail in mainland collegiate the red sea mountains always been a really key areas that egypt many civilizations came here and they made ways through these mountains from the pharaohs to the ptolemies. The romans what we did with the red sea mountain trail was identify all of these us and put these together in in a way that creates a hiking from modern times the trailer one of two routes bannon set up in country joining him this a trip of the feno hiking to back in twenty beam worked with him to develop a similar trail in the sinai. Peninsula developing trails for tourism is something that is now a trend and it's growing very fast buck. Having people that have lived in this land were maybe hundreds of years adds another completely different aspect of experience joining up ancient level of trade travel and huntingdon's the hundred seventy not kilometer long path crosses the land of the martyr as one of egypt's largest tribes. They were instrumental in the development of the trail. The trails announced that one hundred percent owned by the bedroom community but in the process of creation. We'll together for thousands of kilometers. If the pyramid monument to it'd be exceptions <hes> a path trail would be the best monument to the bedouin traveling people <hes> for me. There's no better way to show who the bedroom are than to walk path with them. This is for <hes> allergy of the chest. Everything here really serves the purpose. When fully operational the trail we'll take ten days to complete and by offering no scented cultural immersion with the the maza it's will open up the lease known areas and cultures in egypt to a new type of adventure tourism. The beauty of it is that when you create a trail this creates a micro-economy around the benefits. The local people of that particular region partha me shows where they've come from. It shows who they are how they've lived. <hes> perhaps this author can be part of the story of whether going in the future too okay. What's fascinating about. Today's tenant of ten segment isn't so much what you're seeing but where you're seeing it these are innumerable pieces of pumice rock is recorded from a boat. What's being called. A raft of floating pumice is the size of the new york city borough of manhattan and scientists believe it could be linked to the recent eruption of an underwater volcano in the south pacific. Australian sailors say the rocks range from being the size of marbles to the size of basketballs. If the raft reaches australia's great barrier reef in the months ahead it could bring new species there. It's the kind of scene to stunt. A sailing stony sees pumice like a pebble daca floating rock that stretches out before us waves of stone floating on seafoam mall because the glass porous it's canada but don't panic as the blast beneath the surface that can help coral reef generate and serve a higher purpose than just giving us a a sight to see you see that rolls in shocks and makes ways for making waves showing that major truly rocks zeus in that c._n._n. Tent uh-huh.

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July 6, 2019 | The Gospels Speak to Everyone: Matthew (REBROADCAST)

The Friends of Israel Today

24:58 min | 1 year ago

July 6, 2019 | The Gospels Speak to Everyone: Matthew (REBROADCAST)

"This is steve conover today you'll hear in episode from our archives a popular series where sure you'll enjoy it chris explores the gospels and why there are four different accounts of christ life in your by everybody this is steve gone over were glad you're with us for the friends of israel today where we teach biblical truth changing times with me is chris good took a chris tell us will will here on the program today yes steve i'm really excited today we are going to be starting putting a new series called the gospels speak everyone over the next four weeks were gonna be looking at each gospel and the specific audience at that gospel was speaking to end really at the end what we're gonna see is that god in his grace and mercy compiled four gospels to speak to everyone in amazing picture of god's grace to us also were gonna be looking at yonki pour yonki pours this week were not gonna look at the biblical basis for young people rashly gonna look at a story that came out of israel and it's passed on key port and it involves a spy so you wanna stick around for that and then finally apples of gold busta look forward to in the program today chris the biggest news story coming out of israel this week is that israel lost its lest founding father yet at the age of ninety three shimon peres passed away after suffering from a stroke on september thirteenth he was born in poland immigrated to british control palestine in nineteen thirty four at the age of twelve he fought in israel independence or nineteen forty eight in served in almost every position of the israeli government for the entire existence of the state of israel and his last position with the president's pres knowing the danger surrounding israel's wasn't frightened to take bold risk to ensure sure a bright future for peace between israelis and palestinians his legacy will be one israelis will look to for centuries to come and will be remembered as a visionary who built his dreams into reality thank you chris like dimension before we get into the message with jumped to pour this week were offering a book seems last week on the jewish festivals and it's called the feast of israel's by bruce scott so stick around find out how you can order your copy what did they were gonna start a new series as we look closely at the gospel are series is called the gospels speak everyone did you ever wonder as you were flipping through your bible why there are four gospels matthew mark luke and john and i don't know if you noticed but many of the story sounding the gospels austin repeat pete themselves especially in matthew mark and luke they're called the synoptic gospels you know i i believe god gave us four gospels for a reason each gospel speaks to a different audience in it conveys an aspect of truths about jesus these other gospels don't focus on giving us the readers a more complete picture of who jesus is and i'm gonna tell you the more we know about jesus the better and think of it like this the four gospels those are like four sides of a skyscraper skyscrapers are so large an impressive today into stand at the base of one in look up it can seem like the building goes on forever and each side of the skyscraper is different in presented a different angle of the building yet no matter which side of the building you're looking at it's still the same building sometimes it's almost impossible to stare even at one side of the massive building without racking your brain on the engineering that went behind erecting such a massive substructure the gospels work in the same way to fully described the nature of jesus christ in only one gospel doesn't do justice to the majesty of who he is yet the forecast will help give us different perspectives there's of who christ is an maybe it's different because of who the gospel what's written for or maybe the gospels different because of the message that the gospel writer was trying to convey about jesus for his followers either way were going to look at each gospel over the next four weeks unexamined who the gospels were written to and why they were written to begin with remember the gospels when they were written were were composed for a specific group with a specific meaning in what will see at the end of this is this is that the beauty of the four gospels is that even though one gospel may have been written for a specific group or a specific reason when we put them all together the message of jesus in the gospels speaks to everyone so let's dive in the first gospel were gonna look at is the one the first appears in your bible but the gospel of matthew matthew is the perfect gospel have come first since it acts as a hinge in between the events and prophecies in the old testament and how they find their fulfillment in christ in the new testament the gospel of matthew of course was written by matthew whose name also appears is levi and he was one of jesus his disciples matthew is a tax collector now this was not a proud titled have a sense matthew is collecting taxes for room and then he would actually take a little surcharge for himself many many jewish people during the days of jesus considered tax collectors to be traders and what's interesting is that the gospel of matthew has the most detail about the different types of coins that were being used in that roman era of the time of christ and they shouldn't be surprising to us because matthew specialty were collecting coins roam the gospel of matthew with penned for a jewish audience matthew himself was jewish so we have a jewish man who is impacted by the life ministry and resurrection of jesus sharing with other jewish people that jesus was and is the messiah remember while many jewish people did come to faith faith in jesus in the early church a majority of the jewish people living in israel at that time rejected him as the messiah now we shouldn't be surprised to see that since matthew is writing to a jewish audience his gospel is is full of old testament references just listen to these numbers there are a hundred and twenty nine old testament references in matthew's gospel fifty three of those are direct citations in seventy six are old testament allusions and think about this of the thirty nine old testament books of the bible matthew quoted twenty five of them and matthew didn't limit himself to just one portion of the old testament he wasn't just stuck in the law or the prophets he pulled from all of them the law the profits end the writings of the old testament matthew wants to prove tuesday unbelieving jewish community of his day that much of the old testament prophecy that envision the coming of the messiah would find its fulfillment in jesus of nazareth that's why he would often say in his gospel this took place to fulfill what was spoken by the profits now it's also commonly commonly held that matthew wrote his gospel not long before the destruction of the temple in seventy eighty and he could have quite possibly penned the gospel of matthew in the city of jerusalem so so we know that by the time the gospels written there was a growing church in both jerusalem in other areas of the roman empire the message of jesus was making an impact and the fledgling church was growing but it also faced a lot of persecution end for the jewish audience that matthew is writing to they dealt with the persecution what's coming from the fair say a religious establishment you know those jewish legalist lists of jesus is day that continued to persecute early church and matthew dedicates a lot of his writings and the gospels in his gospel to encourage those persecuted jewish believers who read his gospel and their local churches is to continue on in the faith despite the onslaught of persecution that they were feeling for instance when jesus sent out his disciples to let the people of israel know that the kingdom of god is at hand and that jesus the king of the kingdom is here jesus lets them know that their message may not be well received listen listen to what jesus says his disciples when he sends them out i'm sending you out like sheep surrounded by wolves so be wiser serpents an innocent as dubs be aware of people because they will hand you over councils and flog you in their synagogues but listen to this he encourages his disciples a few verses later saying this do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot not kill the soul instead fear the one who is able to destroy both body and soul in how art to sparrow sold for a penny yet not one of them falls to the ground apart from your father's will even all the hairs on your head are numbered so do not be afraid you are more valuable than many sparrows you know jesus is not only encouraging his disciples here but matthew uses what jesus says to encourage those jewish believers in early church not fear but the have confidence in the lord don't fear men but instead remember god knows even all the hairs on your head in the same way the twelve disciples were sent out by jesus now jesus has sent the jewish audience ratings this out into the world and they're gonna face persecution but what is he say in his scriptures is matthew puts them there for his for the jewish audience three do not fear god knows you intimately matthew is trying to communicate do not fear and here's what's encouraging for us today while matthew is written to a predominantly jewish audience letting them know the king has come matthew is still speaking to everyone today encouraging us to go into make disciples of all all the nations baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit teaching them to obey everything that god has commanded the end remember i love how matthew ends his gospel i am with you always dnc h folks i wanna introduce you to important book the feast of israel shadows patterns of the messiah by bruce scott you know context is everything especially when you study the bible and it's always good to remember the bible is eight jewish book with jewish writers writing from a jewish world view jesus was the jewish messiah he didn't celebrate christmas or easter he celebrated the jewish festivals like passover hanukkah and perot jesus is ministry the cross his resurrection second coming in future rain is king and lord are not only in the new testament they're also hidden within the jewish holidays and feast of the old testament that's why the book defeats of israel shadows of the messiah will help you know the fullness of jesus's ministry through the biblical piece of israel's order your copy today at f o radio dot org or call toll free number eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero that's eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero and welcome back friends next tuesday and wednesday jewish people from all around the world will honor the high holy day of yonki port which is also known as a day of atonement the day when god forgave the sins of the nation of israel according to a little bit of a sixteen a jewish people today go to synagogue they repentant confess of their since the god into others and really simply ask for forgiveness and on yonki for the jewish community fast an refrained from working which is exactly exactly why this story that i'm about to tell you is so significant the nation of israel has fought many battles over the years but one of the scariest of them started on yonki port in nineteen seventythree several months prior to the young keep for war prime minister of israelis golden my air was receiving special intelligence that both syria in egypt pre planning an attack this intelligence showed that as early as may nineteen seventythree egypt staging military exercise is along the suez canal and even the day before young key port general oriole sharona saw eight heavy movement of egypt's enforces amassing and he called a superior and he said war is imminent additionally israel had intelligence of a concentration of syrian tanks around the same time you know signs of war from egypt in syria were definitely loud and clear and all of intelligence briefings however one of the most important pieces of information came from unexpected source of an angel really knowing war could happen at any moment was a given but the question is when this is where the story gets to be able to do i wanna introduce you to ask why marwan an egyptian billionaire husband of mona gumbel optimal nassar daughter of former egyptian president abdel nassar since nineteen sixty nine marwan served in the presidential office first under nassar and then it's a close aide to his successor president on more debt now forty five hours prior to the yonki poor war of nineteen seventy three in israeli mossad agent in london received a phone phone call from ashcroft marwan the egyptian president's son in law called the israeli mossad agent and during their conversation marwan started talking about a lot of chemicals which was codename for war marwan more than just the son in law nassar he was also in israeli spy marwan met with israeli mossad agent that evening in london and told him war would start the next day on the high holy day of yonki pour a holy day for the jewish people when everybody's fasting and resting and i'll tell you the average israeli citizen his or her guard is down marwan started working for them aside in december of nineteen seventy egypt was preparing to take back the sinai peninsula from israel after israel captured in the six day war of nineteen sixty seven marwan had access to egypt best kept secrets especially after he was promoted in may of nineteen seventy one allowing him to provide israel's information information about the coming war including the full egyptian warplanes detailed accounts of military exercises an original documentation of egypt's arms deals with the soviet union in other countries as a senior israeli intelligence halogen officer had said by providing these documents marwan turned his country israel's main enemy into an open book would that kind of information you would expect israeli prime minister gold am i call a preemptive strike like her predecessor predecessor livia school during the six day war of nineteen sixty seven you go to's apprehensive the strike first in fear that if they struck they would be blamed for the war and would receive no help from any other allies and in fact president nixon secretary of state henry kissinger urge golden meyer not to strike first ashcroft marwan gave israeli information they needed to begin moving forces on the morning of yonki pour october six the son in law of egypt's you present who sought to take out is real instead gave vital intelligence to save israel on yonki porn nineteen seventythree it wasn't an easy ward a win frail but over a two week period they were able to push back the syrians in the golan heights any gyp shins and the sinai peninsula again thanks to the covert work ashwan marwan sadly ashcroft marangos murdered in his london home in two thousand seven and it's unsure if his murder was connected to the intelligence work he did that saved israel that remains a mystery however he played in influential role in israel being militarily ready during the young keyboard more address code name given to him by the assad thee angel godsend a most interesting messenger aid israel's during yonki for israel's on the verge of becoming a state a teenaged holocaust survivor arrives on her shores alone his name is fee cowlishaw little did he know his search for a new life in the holy land would leave him to the messiah see enthusiastic to share his faith engaged others in spiritual conversations many of which can be found in are magazine israel's my glory wealthy see is now in the presence of the savior is collected writings from well over fifty years of ministry continue to encourage relievers worldwide now apples of a dramatic greetings from the life of speed problems nineteen twentyone says there are many plans in a man's heart nevertheless the lord's council that will stand recently took my wife to the hospital for treatment of an eye condition i plan to be there for an hour and then go to my neighbor's home to make some electrical repairs but the lord had other plans many abroad newspapers to read the more religious people had brought the talmud or other commentaries i of course had the bible and shortly after we sat down an elderly man his wife sat next to us he quickly placed a copy of the column on the bench beside me so i could see he then said this is the most interesting part of my life the talmud what do you think think about it i responded i would not devote even one hour of my life to that book he was very unhappy at my remark and asked are you in june yes i am i replied then how can you say such a thing yes i took out my small bible in said i have devoted my life to this book it is nothing like the tom and you is quiet for a few moments and asked which rabbi do you favor i replied i do not prefer any of them but i must load them because we're all created in the image of god and he said well i'm glad we have some common ground you believe the missed i asked to come no idea i report the messiah must return andy may return at any time i the man said now i know who you are i came to israel's so i would not after listen besides statements from the goyim going in men's gentiles and now i'm hearing the same thing in israel's from a jew he's had replied to the jewish scriptures state dimissed i will come from new york girl from jerusalem that gave them some time i think but then another man in the waiting room answered one of the most popular vs in the profits is isaiah chapter two british three idaho's named shogo for the law and the word of the lord from jerusalem this man and another continue the conversation about christ with demand sitting next to me i could tell they were true believers in the lord i was so happy that for the first time i could read member how is not alone witnessing about mishap now i were sitting back and listening while other believers spoke about him and now demand was very confused didn't could and i believe so many people disagreed with him in jerusalem and finally he ask how did you arrive at such conclusions i spoke up again inserted into the round of sixteen verse twenty this clearly written you show follow what is all together just the jemaine levette inherited the land which the lord your god is giving you although this conversation lasted for more and for which it passed very quickly a grand return there again because it is a good place to witness for mr next week we continue to look into the gospels or into each gospel who's written for different purpose today we handled matthew next week we look at the gospel of mark don't forget to order your copy of the feast of israel by bruce scott you can call her listener line at eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero order your copy call eight eight eight three four three six nine four zero you can write to us at f y radio pillbox nine one four for belmore new jersey zero eight zero nine nine quickly again that's f y radio pillbox nine one four belmore new jersey's zero eight zero nine nine visit us on the web at f o radio dot orgy that's why radio dot org i'd like to thank tom kelly own our associate producer and engineer michaela who wrote apples of gold and jeremy strong who composed and performed or theme music the fringe of his real would not exist without the generous donations of its supporters please consider financially partnering with us to continue our outreach around the world you can find a donate link on our website to learn more about the ways you can support the ministry of the friends of israel's the friends of israel today is a production of the friends of his real gospel aspel ministry worldwide christian ministry communicating built the truth about israel end messiah both fostering solidarity 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The Anunnaki Pt. 2: Space Kings

Extraterrestrial

41:07 min | 1 year ago

The Anunnaki Pt. 2: Space Kings

"So there's an old biblical story. One many of probably heard before it's the story of lot's wife in the Old Testament. It tells of two cities Sodom and Gomorrah set to be destroyed by God's wrath after years of sin, and decadence. But Abraham pleads with God, if there's a single good person there. He says you must find them and spare them. They find lot a resident of Sodom who they determined to be the city's one. Good man. They tell him that he his wife and his daughters may leave the city, but they must move quickly for destruction is imminent as the family reached the desert, the rumble of the city's demise. Booms out from behind them. Unable to help herself and against God's orders. Watts wife looks back at the blast and becomes a pillar of salts in the bible. It's a lesson on following the word of God. Even if you don't understand it, it's about having faith, but what if the bible is trying to tell us something else to, to cities wiped from the face of the earth in a massive blast and onlooker reduced to salt or ash, maybe the people in these ancient stories weren't smited by God's fury alone? Perhaps there's a secular historical interpretation to other ancient writings, Telefe samarium cities that around that same time fell to what they called in evil wind the sudden death of props poisoning of water all of the symptoms of nuclear fallout. But what could have caused such an atomic? Last in ancient times, humans didn't have that power, but perhaps ancient aliens did. Are we alone? Have we been alone? Will we be alone stories of alien visitation have been engrained in human history alien life may not be confirmed, but our obsession with it can't be ignored welcome to extraterrestrial apar- cast original, I'm Tim. And I'm Bill every Tuesday we visit the marvelous and strange stories about our encounters with beings from another world. We're aware that some of these tales may seem completely unbelievable others may seem all too real, but these stories shed light on human nature, human beliefs, and human psychology and each story has garnered, hundreds, if not millions of true, believers, and for that reason we think they're worth exploring today. We're continuing our discussion on the unarmed ancient extraterrestrial astronauts, who supposedly came. Earth, created humanity, and then obs- Condit, the only record of the Inaki, left was the knowledge they passed on to us, that is, if you believe authors Zachariah, since version of events at par cast, we're grateful for you. Our listeners you allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on Facebook and Instagram at par cast and Twitter at par cast network. And if you enjoy today's episode the best way to help is leave a five star review wherever you're listening really does help. We also now have merchandise head depar- cast dot com slash merch. For more information. Last episode. We dug into author Zachariah since nineteen Seventy-six book. The twelfth planet a reinterpretation of ancient Sumerian texts. Most significantly he proposed an alternate translation of the word sheme where scholars had often assumed this meant temple sich in had other ideas, he said it meant Rocketship from here. He laid out an entire story of the creation of humanity by ancient aliens drawing from Sumerian myths, and taking their fantastical details at face value. The result was an astonishing tale, ancient aliens known as the NEF Aleem lived on the planet, newbie rue the twelfth planet of our solar system. They came to earth to mind, the planet for precious metals in need of minors to do the digging on new son Anki began to experiment with DNA. A eventually by mixing alien genes, with primitive earth apes, he invented the perfect species for hard work human beings. But when the aliens began breeding with humans, the highest ranking Neff Aleem were disgusted. They recalled their species backed in a be ru leaving some of their scientific knowledge as a parting gift, that's where the twelfth planet leaves things with their home planet, Nibiru on a three thousand six hundred year orbit around the sun. The Netflix aren't do back in our neck of the solar system anytime soon. From the start since theories were controversial critics dismiss them out of hand when the book was released in nineteen seventy six one early reviewer less Shaw called it learned. Well, researched carefully documented piffle another James Oberg called it an astronomical flop. But the criticisms couldn't stop the momentum of the book or of sich and himself before long. He became a minor celebrity among proponents of the ancient astronauts theory in the years following the twelfth planets release sich and became a frequent attendee of conventions such as the ancient astronaut society, which featured a lecture from sich in, in nineteen seventy eight hard, as it is to imagine, though, sin wasn't even the first person to suggest that an alien race had created humanity in the sixties and seventies ancient astronauts were growing field of study among conspiracy. Theorists and sin wasn't even the first to publish them in a book most of the credit for the theories surge in popularity probably goes to Eric von Daniken whose nineteen sixty eight book chariots of the gods had put into the mainstream the notion of aliens coming to earth and building the pyramids Stonehenge and other marvels of engineering throughout early civilization. The idea caught fire and the book landed on the New York Times bestseller list in nineteen seventy it was adapted into a documentary film by nineteen seventy six when the twelfth planet was released audiences were prime to hear more about visitors from distant planets, bringing their futuristic ways to primitive humanity where sich an innovated was in going all the way back to the ancient Sumerians, and in using some of the earliest written texts to back up his claims his knowledge of Sumerian and Syrian writing. And his ability to synthesize, various religious tales into a mostly coherent creation story made his version seem, especially plausible, plus his visual evidence was substantial and convincing. There were the carvings of strange giant figures, wearing helmets other ancient art showed pyramid-shaped Ziggurats with what looked like intense at their tips, and most importantly, a Sumerian picture of these solar system. Boasted twelve planet's, not just eight office success of this first book and the gleeful reception at conventions. And among the Elliott astronaut community, Zachariah sich had to find a way to keep them a mental going. He'd already spelled out his theories in the twelve planets. He was giving speaking tours reiterating, those theories and answering questions, but there was only one way, he could think of to keep the ideas alive growing. And spreading he wrote another book. The stairway to heaven was released in nineteen eighty and it packed in even more astounding revelations about on Inaki society. It told how they influenced human evolution and revealed what happened to the honor, Nakae after they left earth, if it seems extremely convenient that sich and manage to uncover yet more details about the Inaki enough that he could publish another book. It's worth remembering that he had plenty to work with in terms of sources thousands of years of religion and legend, in fact, which could easily be reinterpreted to connect to the honor Nakae, and his primary source the Sumerian texts provided more than enough. Material thirty thousand clay, tablets could easily feel a series of books about the supposed true story of humankind's creation. But of course, the big question is whether his connections were rooted in legit. Archaeology and history or if he was simply making tenuous links to fit his pre existing theory since whole theory, rests on the belief that all human mythology and religion stemmed from these alien visitors and the stories passed down about them. So anything from the bible, the Koran the Hindu Vega's it was all relevant and could be connected. And that's exactly what sich and did the earth chronicles a series of seven volumes detailing, all of since discoveries from the tablets, and other religions was released in installments over the next thirty years, each one expanded on these story of the NEF leam, the on Inaki and mankind's early days in the second installment sich and began to expand the story bringing in other cultures. Besides ancient Sumeria and involving disparate figures from world history. He started in ancient. Egypt. According to sich in the oldest gods of Egypt came to earth from these so-called celestial disc. He describes it as a long cylindrical object with fire at its tail and lights at its head. These headlights could change color from blue to red when Faeroes died, they would ascend the stairway to heaven and joined the oldest God's at their home in the celestial disc but for sich in the stairway to heaven wasn't a metaphor for passing on to the next life. It was real. And how exactly did a real life Phero use the stairway to heaven to ascend to the stars? It was easy. If we understand the stairway, to be another name for the launch pad for a rocket for Faeroes headed to the next world, the path laid out in gyp shin lore yearly mirrored how an astronaut might make their way to a shuttle launch. Join from the book of the dead. And from writings about Egyptian king Pepi, the first sin compare the journeys peppy departed by ferry from the land of Horace what we call Egypt's and made his way into the land of Seth the do art. The do what is described as the realm of the dead or as sich inconspicuously, titled it the abode for rising to the stars. The launchpad it was here at the duet that Pepi began to meet technicians gods who prepared his vessel for final departure. They were the ones who provided flame and fire to the boat of raw though, sun, God, another figure is described as the captain of the boat of the gods. To more are described as those who order, the course of the stars like technicians, working on the Apollo missions, these figures moved. Hurriedly. Wasting no time getting ready for the journey here. The pharaoh changed into a new outfits, one fit for a journey to the stars, a spacesuits then it happened. The king ordered the ship did the ancient writers, who recorded this process means ship, as in boat, or ship. As in Rocketship, whichever it was, it was propelled by what the text calls the smoke of the great acceleration, and it was headed upward toward the stars. But there's obviously no ancient spaceport in Egypt today. And Zachariah sich in knows why. Because it was destroyed by the unoccupied sich and followed up the stairway, to heaven with yet another sequel nineteen eighty five's the wars of gods. And men by now since following was secure he. Then you'd appearing at conventions and soon, even began to lead expeditions called sich and studies. These were tours of some of the archaeological sites described in his books and the number of these sites was expanding with each new addition to the series, the third book centers on Mount Sinai and attempts to explain what happened to the space port and why the key don't continue to visit earth to this day, according to in, there's a simple answer for the disappearance of the spaceport the aliens, and the ancient world is he describes it nuclear war up next modern technology melds with ancient history. You've heard of haunted houses, haunted, cemeteries, and haunted islands. But do you know how a normal place can become a paranormal minefield every week, the park cast original haunted places, takes you on an audio tour of different spooky landmark using the same dark storytelling? You here on our show, you'll explore the mysterious legends weird histories and tales of the supernatural the turned once normal locations. 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In nineteen seventy six Zachariah sich and laid out his theory for how the alien race known as the on Inaki settled earth, and created humanity in his book, the twelfth planet of few years later, he followed that up with the stairway to heaven, which suggested that the on Inaki built, a giant space ports in the Middle East, and to explain why there's no spaceport there today, sich and proposed that ancient nuclear war among the aliens at destroyed it that's the subject of the wars of gods. And men, his third book published in nineteen eighty five. The soil of the Sinai. Peninsula is famously dry. The land is flat the ground hard and the dirt of the central plain is pitch black viewed from space. It almost looks burned, according to situation, one should look to two thousand twenty four BC to find the. Answer for how it ended up this way. He said that at this time, the auto knock you controlled the cities of the Middle East, and frequently warred with one another eventually and on Inaki peace council was convened, but peace talks quickly turned to further on Inaki infighting Marzouk, the one time wild child of the Nakae had been conquering city after city across the region, but his father Anki defended him, an argument broke out, and one of the aliens era, stormed out declaring his intention to use the ultimate weapon of the nuclear warheads. Era was supported by en Lille, who city, Marquette sacked, and even on new, their great leader, approved of the use of this alternate weapon. The text reads, quote at the mount most supreme the hero arrived. He raised his hand. The mount was smashed the mount. Most supreme was Mount Sinai says situation where the space port lay then era moved on to Sodom and Gomorrah the story goes, quote the city's he finished off to desolation. He overturned them. The infamous deed was done the cities of the plane and the spaceport between them were obliterated. The fallout from the blast in modern day. Saudi Arabia was felt as far away as Sumeria almost a thousand miles away versus from ancient poems, described, the sudden desolation of Sumerian communities in the twenty first century BC right around the time of the bomb says sich one expert reads, quote, causing cities to be desolated houses to become desolate. It's rivers flow with water. That is bitter. It's cultivated fields grow weeds. Could it be a coincidence, that at the same time the biblical Sodom and Gomorrah fell Sumerian villages were brought to their knees by an unknown malady, what makes since theories, especially compelling is that scientific advancements often came along to support them in the years following the publication of his first book, Zachariah sich in. And kept a close watch on developments in astronomical and scientific circles often seizing on them as evidence of the claims he made in his books in April two thousand, for example, a paper published by the magazine geology attempted to explain the fall of the Acadian empire by analyzing nearby ocean. Basins researchers found that the region had taken a sharp inexplicable turn for the dusty. And aired about four thousand twenty five years ago, the result was drought and famine whole cities were abandoned sich in did the math, writing in two thousand one he subtracted four thousand twenty five years, and he found that brought him to twenty twenty four BC that's the exact year sich and had already said the nuclear bomb went off. Could it be that the sudden shift in weather was actually caused by the nuclear bomb? He believed he'd uncovered in ancient writings, if it was the scientists, whose research was covered in the magazine geology didn't make such a link but the paper declined to speculate about what did cause this climate change throughout his writing career sich and continued to weigh in on scientific findings that might connect to his theories in nineteen ninety six the world was taken with a rare visit from an ancient satellite, the HALE, Bopp comet. Here's a strana Mer. Richard Berenson, on the approaching comet. The comet is Nell. Oh, approaching us on quite rapidly. It'll seem to be going hundred thousand miles per hour, and it's an only ancestor of ours really it's made to the same water and carbon that we ourselves are. Its discoverers Alan HALE, and Thomas Bopp, the hilltop, comet made waves with its extraordinarily bright, body, and unusually long orbital period HALE, Bob only passes by the earth, every two thousand five hundred thirty years though, it's visits for long in the nineties, it was visible to the naked eye for a year and a half, its closest passing was on March twenty second nineteen ninety seven it was a marvelous site in an article from nineteen ninety seven sich and claims that he was besieged with phone calls surrounding the appearance of HALE Bopp, concerned, fans and fellow theorists were desperate to know was this Nimby rue the home planet of the under Nakae and Neville, EM, Nibiru. You'll remember had an extraordinarily long orbital cycle three thousand six hundred years according to sin, but sin disagreed. This was a cop. Not a planet and certainly not Nibiru, perhaps he simply realized that his claims wouldn't hold up if the comet came and went with no word from the on Inaki or may be contrary to his usual willingness to make huge leaps sich and recognize that turning a planet into a comet stretched the limits of believability even for his readers at that same time, the discovery of planetary body dubbed nineteen ninety six t l sixty six also fed fuel to the fire. This latter body was not a comet making it a better fit for Nimby ru according to sin. But it was too small for strana murs to consider it a true planet, again, sich was inundated with questions could nineteen ninety six t l sixty six b Nibiru and again, sin said, no. He said that newbie ru was. Three or four times the earth size, much larger than nineteen. Ninety-six T L, sixty six was supposed to be, but he seized on both HALE Bopp and nineteen Ninety-six, T L, sixty six as proof of the gigantic orbital periods that can characterize a satellites journey through these solar system. Hale Bopp was only discovered a year or so, before it became visible in the sky, if Nabih ru really does travel along, the gigantic path sich and said it does, it's entirely plausible that it's simply too distant for human devices to detect and that means it may still be out there ready to return when we least expect it. While since fans were eager to confirm his theories, he had his skeptics, as well such as Dr Michael Heiser, Dr Heiser holds a PHD in ancient semitic languages in the mid two thousands. He began analyzing the work of Zachariah Sicheng immediately. He found the translations suspect in his first book sich, and claims that the word on Inaki literally translates to people of the fiery rockets that sounds like an inaugural point in favor of ancient alien astronauts, but Heiser breaks down the word and shows that it actually means princely seed that is offspring of the prince presumably on. Oh, there's simply no plausible reason to read the word the way, sich, and does none of the words components resemble his claims. The only explanations are and. Int- misunderstanding or and intentional deception. Another core pillar of since argument is seal VA to forty three which we discussed in part, one, it's supposedly shows the sun above the heads of several under Nakae, a sun surrounded by twelve planets, surely this indicates that ancient people had observed celestial bodies that we still don't know about or maybe not Heiser points out that the peace of the carving that sich and interprets has the sun doesn't align with how the sun is depicted in any others who Marion carving in all likelihood what looks in the carving. The son was, in fact, just at a picture of a star the dots surrounding it represented other stars, the largest star, the one that looks like a son was merely depicted that way to emphasize it in the picture likely. It was a star connected to the ritual being shown in the carving a star the Syrians associated with agriculture, for example, clearly a slightly deeper. Look into claims suggest that at best, he made huge assumptions and misinterpretations in order to craft his theory about the auto Nakae, Zachariah sich in never commented on these objections. In fact, he seems deliberately to have avoided doing so Heiser was a frequent guest on coast to coast AM, the same program on which sich pedaled his theories, but though, Heiser frequently requested a debate between the two sich and never responded. This despite his eager attitude toward answering the questions of fans wondering about HALE Bopp and other planets sich in didn't let the criticism stop him though. His output was prodigious. He wrote four more books. In the main earth, chronicle series, and number of compendiums side, projects and more to eliminate the history of the Nakae, but as we've already seen with the second and third installments, each new book, brought with it gigantic revelations. That seemed improbably tacked onto the existing the holidays where the twelfth planet declared that the unarmed had left earth following the flood. For example, the sequels conveniently find that they returned shortly thereafter and continued, as if nothing had happened and later books give the under knock you credit for everything from Stonehenge to South American civilizations. In January two thousand ten a New York Times reporter wrote a profile of sich at that time, he was living on the Upper West side of Manhattan, eighty nine years old with thirteen books to his name and still insisting to the last that the ancient gods of the Sumerians were alien. Nhs from the planet Nibiru. Sin died peacefully in October of two thousand ten even since his death, though his theories have been widely promulgated, and in two thousand fifteen scientists made a huge discovery one that my just prove sack Araya sich and correct. After all another planet in the solar system, just like sich and predicted a planet that perfectly fit the description of the bureau. Next will discover whether scientists may have finally found Nibiru, thou back to our story. Authors. Zachariah sich in continued to release books throughout the eighties nineties and early two thousands. With every new installment came a new revelation about the unoccupied, but he wasn't just writing. He was reading to constantly keeping up on the newest scientific developments right? Up until his death. In two thousand ten each new discovery could be folded into his theory of the on Inaki seemed every passing comet and astronomical phenomenon aligned with something. The ancient Sumerians had described on a clay tablet, four thousand years ago, as we've already seen a lot of these connections were tenuous at best the existence of long orbital paths for celestial, objects alone is not proof that the bureau exists, but other findings after the author's death were more compelling in hinting at a possible truth behind his writing. Things findings like planet x in January two thousand fifteen to astronomers at the California Institute of technology in Pasadena made a startling announcement. They had uncovered evidence of a new planet in the solar system. They hadn't seen the planet through a telescope or any advanced detection technology, rather, they'd simply done the math. The scientists looked at the path of celestial bodies like dwarf planets and icy objects things they could follow in attempting to account for the specific and sometimes strange orbital, paths of one dwarf planet, in particular, the astronomers were baffled its path. Simply didn't make sense. Not the gravitational influence of the objects. They were aware of anyway. They decided that the most likely explanation was that another extremely large planet. One. Outside range of detection must have been affecting its orbit planet x so they called it thus began a search for this massive potential new planet a search that continues to this day, but fans of sins work, pounced declaring planet, x to be a likely candidate for newbie Biro, whether in would agree is another matter since he died, five years before the planet's discovery his thoughts remain a matter of pure speculation. But unlike HALE Bopp and nineteen Ninety-six T L, sixty six planet x is genuinely believed to be a planet, and a big one that the reasons sich in had for dismissing those other objects, simply don't apply to planet x. And so the possibility remains that before long will see the return of new bureau and the Inaki a return that if sins. Series. True brings with it. Major upheaval catastrophic floods nuclear disaster. Everything's on the table in verifying or debunking. Since claims the best place to start seems to be the twelfth planet. That's where the most fundamental ideas about this theory are laid out by examining these, we can evaluate since theories on the scale of believability from one to ten with ten being extremely likely the first book is, of course, where we learn about Nubia rue, the titular twelve planet, and it's the one that's sich in most directly ties to actual samarium texts, and ancient carvings, the later materials often require huge leaps. But even in that first book, there's plenty of reason to be skeptical as we heard from Dr Michael Heiser much of sich Sumerian. Translation, simply doesn't track with. What scholars know about the language and Sumerian understanding of strana me was probably weaker than sich and claims, in fact, Sumerian writings affirm again. And again, that ancient Sumerians knew of only the five closest planets in the solar system. Mercury Venus, Mars Jupiter and Saturn. As for newbie rue the name, sich and gives to these supposed twelfth planet sich, and isn't wrong that the text sometimes use the word Nibiru to refer to a planet, but that planet isn't one beyond Pluto. Usually it refers to Jupiter. Sometimes it's also used to refer to the God Marzouk who these Sumerians associated with Jupiter at no point in the texts is Deby referred to as a twelfth planet as the home of the auto Nakae, or as a planet with a three thousand six hundred year orbital path the fact that astronaut objects. Can have massive and long orbital paths is not exactly rock-solid evidence that gold miners landed on earth, and even more intriguing findings like the climate shifts within the Sinai peninsula, can just as easily be attributed to the kinds of sudden droughts and desertification that plagued the region to this day one would expect a nuclear bomb to leave a little more evidence than some charge soil and dry strip of land. But that characterizes since approach to the mythology in general stretching, the existing evidence to its breaking point and ignoring what evidence disagrees with his claim. It's an unfortunate tendency, especially in light of what reviewer James Oberg pointed out about much of the twelfth planet. He wrote in nineteen seventy eight since grasp of near eastern archaeology is excellent. I would recommend them to anyone interested in a survey of that field. But that section of the book lasts only about one hundred pages. And in so frequently flipping between accurate descriptions of archaeology and his own less reliable versions of Sumerian history and culture, sich, and only further muddies, the waters, and discredits his own theories, still the theories were undeniably, influential legions of fans continue to learn about discuss and propagate Zachariah sins ideas about the under Nakae, and the NEF Aleem to this day, his niece, Janet sich in is the webmaster of sins official website, answering questions and providing updates on his theories in two thousand fifteen she edited a book of previously, unpublished writings by her uncle condensing, his work into a single volume and allowing it to spread even further. But the theories didn't need another book to make their Mark Hollywood have long ago taken the basic tenets of since I. Lia's and use them for a number of films via original Stargate movie from nineteen Ninety-four, drew considerable portions of its mythology from the auto knock, you legend, in particular, the idea of ancient aliens using humans as laborers to mine for precious metals. It also connects these aliens to the pyramids of Egypt, though, that theory isn't original sin, and Roberto or see the writer of the two thousand eleven film, Cowboys and aliens said the aliens of his film, were loosely based on the Babylon, Ian legend of the on Nakae. If the spread of his ideas into science fiction, film, and literature is any indication sich in would have made quite the successful scifi writer, his inventive narratives, and massive millennia spanning mythology is clearly, the work of a strong imagination, but by publishing his supposed findings as nonfiction sich an open himself up to scrutiny that reveals how his work either through misunderstanding or outright, deception repeatedly misrepresents the actual mythology and science of Sumerian, culture, ultimately, we must conclude that the consistent misreading of well understood Sumerian mythology and the obvious stretches required to expand that first book into twelve sequels and spinoffs hurt the theories credibility. However, there is something compelling to the way, sich and connects distant world religions and mythologies. With no real way of knowing exactly, what occurred on the distant past. We must leave open the possibility that some cosmic event might have inspired the Batholomew as of many different cultures throughout the millennia but without stronger evidence, and with the contradictory and absurd nature of many of since claims that possibility is extremely remote as a result, this theory, earns a two out of ten on the believability scale. Even if Zachariah sins increasingly outlandish claims provoked doubt, it's worth considering them in the context in which they were published his supposed discoveries about the honor, Nakae often corresponded to what was going on in the world around and especially in the sciences at the time of their writing, for example, the auto Dokki DNA experiments that sich and claims led to humankind's creation, mirrored, the same DNA experiments that American scientists were doing in the seventies Frederick, Sanger. Invented a method for sequencing DNA in nineteen seventy five the year before since book was published a discovery that netted the scientists a Nobel prize just a few years later, and since third book focused, as it was on a civilization's destruction by means of nuclear weapons was released in nineteen eighty-five. These were the waning, but still terrifying years of the Cold War. Due clear standoff between the United States and Russia even if they relied heavily on conjecture or outright fabrication since books were clearly exploring real fears and interests of his own time period in that way, they might prove more useful as an insight into what was occupying the minds of Americans in the nineteen seventies and eighties than as a historical document about ancient Sumerian aliens as scientific progress continues to rapidly changed the way we interact with the world around us. There's some comfort in the idea that maybe we've already figured this out once before an increasingly complex world might find some solace knowing that ancient people had the answers to questions about space in the universe about our origins, and about the deepest questions of our existence and may be if since descr. Option of the three thousand six hundred year path of the planet. Nibiru is accurate. If the auto Nakae the NEF Aleem will return as sich and predicts, maybe we just need little patients answers and aliens might just be on the way. Thanks for listening to our story on the sake. You can find all previous episodes of extraterrestrial as well as all apart cast other shows on Spotify, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts. New episodes, come out every Tuesday, several of you have asked how to help us, if you enjoy the show, the best way to help is to leave a five star review. 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Camp David Accords / Frida Kahlo's bus accident - September 17

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Desert to San Diego and I was riding along with someone all you listeners might know miles grave from our cousin podcast, the daily Zeitgeist, uh-huh miles and I each took a turn driving through the mountains along the way and we both got to experience the terrain the awesome occasionally Olympus Mons like desert landscape those mountains in southern. California really something else as beautiful country but we got to do it as both the driver and a passenger since. We traded off in about halfway through, and we also got a great feel for the features that make the Mazda C X thirty really stand out in its class. You can check out the theory yourself at Mazda USA dot com slash IHEART or see it in person at your local Mazda dealership hail. Eve's here. We're doubling up today with two events in history one for me and one from former host Tracy v will fin on with the show. Welcome to this day in history class from how stuff works dot Com and from the desk of stuff you missed in history class. It's the show where we explore the past one day at a time with quick look at what happened today in history. Hello and welcome to the podcast I'm Tracy V. Wilson. And it September seventeenth the Camp David Accords were signed on this day in one thousand nine, hundred, Seventy, eight, Camp David Accords. Were officially titled Framework for Peace in the Middle East and framework for the conclusion of a peace treaty between each other and Israel and the preamble to the accords really sums up why they were being pursued. It goes quote after four wars during thirty years despite intensive efforts. The Middle East which is the cradle of civilization and the birthplace of three great religions does not enjoy the blessings of peace the. People of the Middle East yearn for peace so that the vast human and natural resources of the region can be turned to the pursuit of peace and so that this area can become a model for coexistence and cooperation among nations. Those thirty years of warfare that are referenced in the preamble started with the United States decision to divide the Palestinian territories, which were at that point controlled by Britain into two states, Israel and Palestine the followed World War Two the partition resolution as the Swiss described was announced on November twenty, seventh nineteen, forty seven with the division taking place the following May. These states that were outlined in the resolution were about the same size but their borders were a weird interlocking tangle parts of each state were nearly surrounded by and cut off from the rest of it by parts of the other. This would have been a complicated border to try to maintain under the best of circumstances. Bts were not the best of circumstances. The rest of the region did not want a divided Israeli and Palestinian state and war began almost immediately after Israel proclaimed its independence on May fourteenth nineteen, Forty, eight, five Arab nations invaded, and in the aftermath Israel occupied some of the territory that was supposed to have become Palestine and other nations occupied other parts of it. This separate Palestinian state that had been part of the partition plan wasn't established and Palestinians became stateless. Then after the Six Day War which spanned from June fifth to Tenth Nineteen Sixty, seven Israel occupied Egypt's Sinai Peninsula along with the West Bank, the Gaza Strip and the Golan Heights basically Israel now had a lot of territory that weren't part of this original partition plan at all and Palestine still did not formally exist. That's when the United Nations unanimously passed resolution two, four two, which was a attempt to secure peace in the Middle East according to this resolution Israel was supposed to withdraw from all the territory it occupied after the Six Day War and the resolution also called for quote respect for an acknowledgement of the sovereignty territorial integrity and political independence of every state in the. Area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or active force. But by nineteen, seventy-two, none of the things outlined in that resolution had happened. There was not an acknowledgement of the right to exist basically of the other states in the area and negotiations were at a total standstill after many many attempts president. Jimmy Carter invited Israeli prime minister. Menachem Begin in Addiction President Anwar Al Sadat to Camp David the presidential retreat in Maryland and they negotiated for twelve days with the president using one document going back and forth between the two leaders with more than twenty rounds of revisions after attempts to have the three of them negotiating together broke completely down. Final accords outlined a process for Palestinian. Self government in Gaza and the West Bank along with actual steps for a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel and the process for similar peace treaties between. Other neighbors. The peace treaty that Israel and Egypt signed in Nineteen seventy-nine nine had a lot of the same elements that the accords had although this was a turning point four relations between Israel and Egypt. This was of course, adjust one element in the ongoing warfare between Israel and its other neighbours, and it was also only one element in Israel's relationship with Palestine along with a whole lot of other pieces to the still very complicated and unresolved puzzle. The accords were and continue to be controversial including the fact that they affected Palestinians without actually involving Palestinians in their creation. Thanks to Christopher Hiatus for his research work on today's episode, and you can learn a bit more about this in the September ninth two, thousand nine episode episodes Steffi missed in history class in, which is an interview with Jimmy Carter about these negotiations. Thanks to Tari Harrison for audio work on this show, and you can subscribe to the stay in history class on apple podcast Google podcasts, and where real to get your podcast. Tomorrow, we have to be consolidation of a tremendous empire. Hey everybody today's episode is sponsored by the new Mazda C X thirty. So lately, we've been trying to do our part to be cautious and do what we can for public health. So we've been cooped up in the house a lot not getting out a lot. Robert. Is there anything you miss about the about the road trip or going on long drives? You have to say there is something really cool about having a long drive. Hopefully, you know like a driving through the mountains or something and you get to really dive into a particular. Just, really experienced it beginning to end while taking in the scenery also a great time for the children to learn about metal. Machine Music. So when miles gray and I drove the Mazda C X thirty from Palm Desert San Diego I really enjoyed the scenery along the way I feel like the car itself helped a lot with that The interior of the car is crafted with what they call an essential EST approach. 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Here's my suggestion if you're working at home these days because of the pandemic us the time on Monday morning that you would have spent commuting. To tackle some big speculative project that you claim, you never have time for tackling something big and uncertain can light a fire on your career and doing this important but not urgent task. First thing means you start the week with a sense of victory. Brought to you by nature, Valley Pat Sustained energy bars for more tips on how to start. Well, sustain your energy and win the week check out the new Corner Office podcast available on the radio APP apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to this day in history class, we're history waits for no one. A day was September Seventeenth nineteen twenty. Five. Mexican artist Frida Kahlo was involved in a bus accident that she survived with major injuries. The accident changed the course of her life and deeply affected her artwork. Freedom was bored and Goya on Mexico in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven. Her mother was relatively conventional in her world view while her father supported her curiosity. Freda was super close to her father, but she was more distant from her mother who dealt with depression. When she was young, she had polio which affected her right leg and gave her limp. She also developed an interest in art and began sketching. In one thousand twenty, two free to began attending the National Preparatory School in Mexico City. Her goal was to study medicine at a university. There she encountered progressive thought and people in the literary community she became known as a Prankster anti-war, indigenous jewelry and clothing. It was at this school where she met artist Diego Rivera. But on September Seventeenth Nineteen, twenty five. She was headed back home from school on a bus with her boyfriend Alejandro Gomez audience when the bus ran into a trolley car. Several people were killed immediately in the accident and more died later from their injuries. Obvious only had minor injuries but a piece of iron went through Freitas's patriots back that had to be pulled out of her body. Her shoulder was dislocated her collarbone was broken. Her right leg was broken in eleven places and her spine was also broken in several places. She had surgery and stayed in the hospital for a month. Then spent several months at home in bed. Over the course of her life, she underwent as many as thirty five operations. Though she aimed to become a medical illustrator. She was in a lot of pain and decided to drop out of school. While, she was in recovery. She spent a lot of time painting her mother even bought her an Easel that helped her paint embiid. She used an overhead mirror to paint self-portraits. During this time her relationship with audience ended but photographer Tina doty introduced her to a community of people involved in art and left his politics. 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Full Episode: Thursday, November 12, 2020

World News Tonight with David Muir

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Full Episode: Thursday, November 12, 2020

"The tonight the kuroda virus long new numbers just coming in as we come on the air and the lines in new york city protesting growing concern from coast to coast tonight the testing here in new york and new restrictions amid fears of a new wave hitting the city in parts of new jersey nearly one in five testing positive as the number of cases of the virus explodes across the us. Well more than one hundred thousand. New cases every day in america and no signs of slowing down from ohio to wisconsin to california now becoming the second state to hit one million cases hundreds of people waiting in their cars to be tested at dodger stadium. Today we also have news on the pfizer vaccine and vaccine in the works for moderna and right here our first look tonight at a treatment while america wait for these vaccines do antibody treatment create specifically to attack the virus speeding up the recovery process. So who can get it. And how does this work today. President trump under growing pressure from some well known republicans to concede defeat and on capitol hill. At least ten. Republican senators including senator. Lindsey graham now saying it's time for president elect joe biden to receive intelligence briefings that are given to incoming presidents to keep america safe. One republican senator saying it doesn't start happening by week's end he'll step in by. Us troops among the dead tonight at the military helicopter crash in egypt. Here is the. us deadly plane crash. White neighborhood it was trying to land and the storm. Slamming the us a second time now moving up. The coast bringing deadly flooding. From florida to the carolinas tonight. The search for the missing at this hour and the other weather concerned fiery pileup on this interstate twenty nine vehicles in bowl at america strong tonight fifty years after his first trophy trailblazer returns to the stage from abc news. World headquarters andy more. This is world news tonight with deal. Good evening it's great to have you with us here thursday night and we were born. This would happen with the colder weather. Here and americans going indoors tonight. New numbers on the coronavirus. Well more than one hundred thousand new cases of the virus in just twenty four hours several days straight hospitalizations nearly doubling in just two weeks now here in new york new restrictions tonight fearing a devastating new wave and take a look at this time lapse tonight. We started this graphic with the situation about three months ago. You can see the red. Their across the sunbelt states in august and september moving up to the center of the country then moving west and of course. There's the picture now. We have cases on the rise in all fifty states here in new york lines for testing and a new ten pm curfew for restaurants and bars chicago imposing a stay at home advisory for the next thirty days cases in california tonight now topping a million and this image this evening from dodger stadium families in their cars for hours. They are waiting to be tested or hospitals and their staffs stretched to the limit. Utah's governor saying we are at a breaking point tonight and north dakota as we reported here so strapped they are now allowing workers with the virus asymmetric to come in to help in this fight. Abc's chief national affairs correspondent. Thomas leading us off with a new concern. Right here in new york tonight. With lines forming outside of testing centers and new restrictions new york city being warned a second wave may be coming every single thing. You do matters the epicenter of the us pandemic putting a curfew in place. Bars restaurants gyms need to close by ten pm. Starting tomorrow gatherings and private homes will be limited to ten people all to drive those rising cove numbers down and avoid a return to the darkest days of the pandemic but small business owners that struggle to survive the first wave say new citywide restrictions will drown them. There's only a few people sitting on in the restaurant at ten o'clock eleven o'clock and now we can't even accept those times twenty customers over night across the river cases soaring in new jersey one in five people testing positive in newark. That state. also rolling out a new ten pm curfew. Tonight for restaurants and restaurants were morphing is the night went on not in name the substance into clubs into lounges. People were just letting their guard down. Today would hundred thirty eight thousand new cases in just eleven days the country recording a staggering. One point two million infections are. We'll cars in california. we're today. They topped a million cases and are adding back some restrictions. Cova cases are spiking in los angeles. In fact here at dodger stadium. They've been forced to extend their testing hours across the city. More than thirty. Two thousand people are being tested. Every day a number that continues to go up we should not be throwing our hands up and saying well. There's nothing we can do. This thing is out of control. There is something we can do officials from coast to coast begging the public to use the tools. That work like milwaukee's mayor. I know we're all tired. I'm tired your but we must remain vigilant in doing this necessary. And ohio's republican governor amid his new mask mandate. We know that mass work. They're the easiest cost effective way to limit the spread of covid nineteen spite skyrocketing cases. Still pockets of resistance to mask mandates this billboard briefly going up and protest in omaha nebraska and every day doctors and nurses on the front lines taking us inside their fight. It's really bad when you have to decide between a trauma patient in code patient in missouri. Forty year old medical technician. Marie bumba took precautions but still got the virus her parents on the phone with marie moments before she was put on a ventilator later died her last words to me were i love you and her dad was driving and he says i love you baby girl and he says i love you. Dad love you and that was it so many families across this country going through those moments. Tom llamas joins us now from new york and of course we're seeing this across the country. Tom new concerns here in new york tonight as well a new advisory in chicago at this hour. That's david that breaking news coming out of chicago moments ago. The mayor issued an advisory starting monday at six. Am people should only travel to work. School and for essential needs back here in new york city. We are seeing the warning signs all around this. These are people waiting in line to get tested david. They were waiting tonight when the rain was pouring down for hours and the big question right. Now what's going to happen to the public. Schools mayor de blasio said today if the infection rate gets to three percent he's gonna shut them down david tonight. It's at two point. Six steadily rising. Tom yomas leading us off tonight. Tom thank you. There's also news tonight on the pfizer. Vaccine the vaccine coming from derna and tonight right here as we await a vaccine in this country a first look at a promising treatment for those battling the virus. Right now eli. Lilly's antibody treatment receiving fda emergency use authorization just this week working to speed up the recovery and some of the most vulnerable patients. Abc's alec press tonight with a first look as we hear from a patient being given this treatment tonight a first look at the new treatment created specifically to attack a corona virus researchers taking the most powerful antibody from one of the first survivors and using it to create a synthetically made version to fight the virus in the game and i knew things were really beginning to look back. David shawls is one of the first cova patients in the country to receive. Eli lilly's new. Fda authorized antibody treatment bam levy mab at clarke memorial hospital in jeffersonville. Indiana shows a doctor on the front lines treating kovic patients tested positive. A couple of days ago. You just got your infusion describe how that was what happened. Hooked me up to ninety and they gave me to one hour. Infusion of the monoclonal antibody there were no side effects to it. And i'm sure that this is going to recovers. You must begin treatment within ten days of the first symptoms and after receiving an infusion patients go home to recover freeing up valuable hospital space and staff. This is a treatment that can keep them from becoming sick and have to be in the hospital so it keeps them out of the healthcare system but only certain patients are eligible must be twelve years or older with mild to moderate symptoms and likely to develop severe illness including with pre existing conditions like diabetes and obesity. It's not for people already in the hospital. Availability is limited eight thousand doses ready now. Two hundred and twelve thousand more expected by the end of the year. Is this the bridge that we needed until we get that widely available vaccine. This is giving us hope it's given us that. Am sunshine to say we have something that will help patients from getting sicker and from this new treatment for those who have it to the vaccines meant to prevent it. Pfizer says early data shows. Its vaccine could be ninety percent effective and may apply for emergency authorization as soon as next week and moderna not far behind with their vaccine saying they could be ready to apply by next month and david doctors across the country are learning more about this new treatment right now along with the rest of us. If you believe. You're a candidate for this new treatment. You should contact your doctor or medical provider and they will help. David are we could use some promising news on this front. Alex thank you meantime. President trump has remained largely out of sight. He has not addressed the country's worsening virus situation his tweet still largely on the election and tonight growing number of republican senators. Who say it's time to start. Giving president elect joe biden the intelligence briefings incoming presidents. Get to keep this country safe. And one republican senator saying. If it doesn't start by the end of this week he'll step in. Here's our chief. White house correspondent. Jonathan karl tonight. There are signs tonight. Republican support for the president's give no ground. Posture is crumbling while most republican senators have yet to concede joe biden won the election. A growing number. Now saying it's time for biden to receive the classified intelligence briefings not only given to a president-elect senator james lankford of oklahoma was the first to make that demand. If that's not a going by friday. I will step in as well and to push to say. This needs to occur so they regardless of the outcome of the election. Whichever way that goes people can be ready for that actual task and today. A number of others agreed. I do think they're going to have to work that out. In very short order all told at least ten republican senators including trump loyalist lindsey. Graham said it's time for biden to get those intel briefings white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany was asked today if the president has considered offering biden the briefings. Her answer left many confused. Has the president consider that. I haven't spoken to the president about that. That would be a question on more for the white house. A question for the white house. She's the white house press secretary. This is not just about security with most of the country. Seeing record numbers of cohen nineteen infections and hospitalizations. The biden transition team has not yet been able to coordinate with the white house corona virus task force all because the president refuses to admit even the possibility he lost the election. As for the president's own actions has not addressed the alarming increase in corona virus cases. In fact he hasn't said a word in public about anything for a week. Most republicans in congress still aren't calling on trump to concede but across the country slowly but surely a growing number of prominent republicans are saying it is time including today. Ohio governor mike. Dewine joe biden is the president. Elect and longtime republican. Strategist karl rove who advised. The president during the campaign published an article in the wall street journal entitled this election result won't be overturned roe verge. The president to do his party unite the country by leading a peaceful transition and leading grievances. Go even the president's friend. Geraldo rivera says it's over the time coming soon to say goodbye with grace and dignity. I know it's hard to hear. But that's that's the way i feel about this now so let's get to giancarlo with us. Live from washington stein and john. Of course this is all happening as the coronavirus crisis explodes in this country and the president. Of course still. The president until the inauguration has not said anything publicly on what americans can do or should do to protect one another of course especially with the holidays coming honestly david. The president has been nowhere on this. He hasn't spoken publicly about the alarming increase in infections. He has not met with the coronavirus task force for months. He hasn't even tweeted about it but today we learned another one of his advisors who was at that election night party at the white house has tested positive for covid. Nineteen this time. It's corey lewandowski. Tonight thank you. John overseas tonight five. Us troops have been killed after a military helicopter crashed in egypt killing seven members of an international peacekeeping force including those five americans officials say the helicopter went down in the sinai peninsula during a routine mission. The blackhawk believed to have suffered a mechanical failure. One american survived the identity of the victims now. You have released president-elect. Joe biden tweeting his condolences to the families tonight. Backyard home into the search for the missing at this hour after tropical storm. Ada hit the for a second time florida's gulf coast. And then this time moving up. The coast combining with another system to bring deadly flooding at least four lives lost in that flooding eight and making landfall north of tampa before dawn with fifty mile an hour winds dangerous storm surge flash flooding killing three people at a campground in hidden night. North carolina more than thirty people rescued at least two are still missing tonight. Including a one-year-old. Let's see meteorologist rob marciano tracking it. All he's in alexander county north carolina for us tonight. Hey rob hi david. North carolina once again. The victim of flash floods caused in part by tropical storm. Many of the roads in this part of piedmont washed out like the one behind me down this road in charlotte. They got four inches of rain in just six hours. Probably got twice that much here. The center of eight or now just off the coast of charleston south carolina and that circulation slamming against the cold front. That's amplifying the flooding range will still be a threat near the coast but by seven. Am the rain is out. But yet again. We're tracking another system heading towards central america likely to be our thirtieth named storm in this record breaking hurricane season. David has just been incredible. Rob thank you. The news continues here and next to the father and son accused of killing him arbery as jog through that georgia neighborhood making their case today to be let out on bond the attorney for one of them saying this was not a hate crime ahmad aubrey's mother and her reaction tonight. Here's abc's adrian bankers tonight attorneys for two of the man accused of murdering ahmad. Arbery seeking the release of the father and son on bond greg travis mcmichael appearing virtually due to covid with family and friends coming forward as character witnesses. The pair seen chasing arbery before travis fatally shot the twenty-five-year-old after spotting him running in their brunswick georgia neighborhood in what they told. Police was an attempted citizen's arrest of a suspected burglar bories mother today outside the courtroom said. She doubts they have any regrets. Allowed to go home so them going home. We're told you. Travis mcmichael friends testifying. He is remorseful his attorney citing his service in the coast guard. Saying this was no hate crime. We have substantial evidence that on the day in question. Mr every was not a job. He was there for various purposes. The prosecution revealing an old text message sent by travis mcmichael to a friend using a racial slur. That friend saying the text was not meant to be racist at all now. David michaels attorneys are asking the judge to reject the dighton. It's malice murder. Charge for saying it was written in such a way that it actually charges to crimes in one count that mcmichael's and a third man who recorded the killing have all played not guilty. The bond hearing resumes. Tomorrow morning. David adrian with us tonight. Thank you we dream and when we come back here the deadly plane crash right into a neighborhood that was trying to land and that twenty nine vehicle pileup on the interstate. Staying informed has never been more. Information is coming faster than ever to. How do you make sense of. It'll start here. hey. I'm brad milkey from abc news. In every weekday we will break down the latest headlines in just twenty minutes straightforward reporting dynamic interviews and analysis from experts. You can trust always credible always solid start here from abc news twenty minutes every weekday on your smart speaker or your favorite podcast app next tonight here that small plane crashing into a neighborhood and bitcoin california just as it was trying to land the plane slamming into several parked cars bursting into flames. The pilot was killed in the crash. The plane coming down within feet of the runway at whiteman airport and that massive pileup in monticello minnesota tonight at least twenty nine vehicles involved the fiery crash. I ninety four at least nine. People treated for minor injuries. Slippery road conditions and poor. Visibility have been blamed. Pope francis has reached out to congratulate. President elect joe biden. Biden's transition office saying to spoke by phone this morning biden thanking the pontiff for his blessings. And congratulations and commending francis for promoting peace and reconciliation. Joe biden is only the second catholic president after john f. kennedy funny tonight here. America strong the trailblazer nearly fifty years later returning to that stage. The country music singer. Charley pride is a trailblazer bound. Lindell easy and just about about them. The son of mississippi sharecroppers. He was a professional baseball player before turning to country music. He became our best selling artists. Since elvis with dozens of number one hits seventy million records sold. He's been called country music's first black superstar. Good morning over babble when you get back on it was nineteen seventy one when he wanted to see him as entertainer of the year war. I want to thank everybody who were responsible and especially all my fans out that last night. Nearly fifty years later at eighty six years old performing at the country music awards was honored with the lifetime. Achievement award god talk. Well all grant you so much you know. You might not believe. But i'm nervous. I'd be nervous humble thanking those who influenced him and those who have listened to music through the years and all my fans. I wanna say thank you. I'm through talking. I guess just going to thank everybody again like i say i'm nervous charley. Pride america strong though question about that updated your with so much at stake so much on the line. More americans turn here than anyplace else. Abc news world news. Tonight with david muir. We have made it through another week together. America's most wants program across all television.

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