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"simon cooper" Discussed on Men In Blazers

Men In Blazers

06:05 min | 2 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Men In Blazers

"From the men in blazers studios in the crap, part of London, and the crap part of Charleston, South Carolina, it's a men in places podcast rods. We back like Tom Brady. How are you holding up David? Mid college tour, roger, doing the staff, it's going amazingly. Is your daughter replying for the Bradley guzan scholarship? I don't know, what is that scholarship? What does she need to do? We're open to anything. I'm not sure any of our kids are gonna touch the great ether that one Bradley goose and wants touch. But I am in England. A lot of GFPs over here catching football games with their mates with their families and it is quite magnificent. I will say, it is a wild time to be here, Dave out. There is a real gallows humor prevailing. Everyone watching with horror at events and folding in Ukraine, waiting with a real English humor. Would you discover to be cruise missiles by crazy Vlad as everyone keeps telling me it's just like a fear, a confusion, there's a post lockdown energy that is completely just like F it, we're going to go for it at the same time. Thankfully, this beer, this pie, this football lots of football. Yeah, wow. Strange, strange times in every single way roger, but being over there, surely the big piece of news everywhere is everything going on at Chelsea and with Roman Abramovich. Yeah, in a weekend, in which spurs fans opened up their game by singing Chelsea, get sectioned everywhere they go. They vote, how are you feeling after last Thursday? We all woke in the United States to stunning news that the British government finally belatedly were actually going to freeze room with a problem, which is assets, including Chelsea, men's and women's football teams, finally admitting in writing after nearly 20 years of Premier League ownership and 21 trophies that hiding in plain sight, Roman had been an owner, according to the British government's office of financial sanctions, implementation who now admit he was involved in quote undermining and threatening the territorial integrity, sovereignty, and independence of Ukraine, the Premier League since the same quickly disqualified Roman Abramovich as a director of Chelsea, all of it they vote a stunning moment for Chelsea fans across the world for the history of the club. You've loved since you were a kid. I talked about it at length on Thursday and our pod special. Tell us how are you feeling about it all? Well look, first off, I think Chelsea fans just have to stop complaining. They have to stop singing Roman's name. I'm not saying this is the majority. I know it's a minority of the minority, but I think there is something incredibly untoward with everything going on in Ukraine for Chelsea fans to be complaining about how it affects what is ultimately a football team. The point of what the British government has done. And I think it was right what they've done is about sanctions. It's about trying to put pressure on Roman Abramovich to do something about it and to put pressure on the Kremlin to do something about it. And that should be uncomfortable. That should make everybody connected with the club, feel, oh my God. This is bad. Yes, it would be wonderful if it weren't the government who are now in charge of selling football teams because the government not sure if you're aware of this rush, they're not good at very many things, but certainly poor selling football teams to the right person probably is not within their sort of core set of strengths. But Chelsea football club will be fine. What isn't fine is the situation in Ukraine and I think that's what people have to focus on and I think everything that's been done. It's correct. I've got to ask you emotionally, what do you feel in this moment? I mean, I feel detached. To be honest, because I just football pales into insignificance next to the human suffering. And I think there'll be time, yes, I read Simon Cooper's piece about this just exposes the hypocrisy throughout English football and English politics. I've read everything that there is, but to me, I just always come back and I look at the pictures and I look at the suffering and football's part and it just feels like, I mean, I'm struggling to I'm struggling to engage, I suppose is what's happening. Now, I broke the whole situation down in that emergency pod last Thursday. So just the quick top line of what has happened since as the Premier League rushes to grapple with, as Tariq panju wrote in The New York Times, the issue of quote how a Bromwich choose links to Russia's president Vladimir Putin were hardly a secret, could be allowed to enjoy the trappings of a fame and popularity associated with only one of its clubs a rare sporting asset of global significance for so long. Since a podded telecommunications company three asked Chelsea to remove their branding from the front of their shirt, corporate credit cards used by staff for Chelsea business was suspended. Because the banks were considering the impact that doing business with Chelsea might have on them, belatedly allowed freelance staff members, consultants, laid off by the club. And I will say I feel for the staff of over 1400 employees who've been plunged into uncertainty and it was fascinating watching Peter Czech on the field before the game yesterday talking about the financial restrictions, that special government license, which is defining the new rules of operations for the club begging them to amend the license of the club can survive saying as you hinted that the government license has been created by quote not football people making these decisions. Yeah, to say the least..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Gambling With an Edge

Gambling With an Edge

04:02 min | 4 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Gambling With an Edge

"With an edge. Now here are your hosts bob dancer and Richard munchkin. Good afternoon. Welcome to gambling with an edge on bob dancer. And I'm Richard munchkin. Our guest today is Jack all while. An author of a new book called make better bets. Well, welcome to family with an edge. Thanks so much for having me. Very, very excited to be here. Well, we're excited to have you. We're going to talk primarily about betting on soccer. Which is not it's within the general scope of what we do, but we haven't had a lot of soccer betters. So tell us to start with what is your book all about? The book is about my attempt to bet the 2018 FIFA World Cup that was hosted in Russia with an excel model that I created and a lot of the framework is a lot of the stuff I learned as an actuary. So it's written in VBA, which is the programming language used to automate mundane tests and excel. And yeah, that's what it's about. So you bet three years ago. In general, how much work with that? How did that go? It was a couple hundred hours. I would say I actually recorded over 2000 games of international competitions, I started out actually going back as far as O four, but then I quickly realized they had changed the FIFA ranking methodology after the O 6 World Cup, so it wasn't really apples to apples. So I only included things after the O 6 World Cup. But it was a lot of data gathering and it basically started from some books I had read by professor semansky and Simon Cooper, they wrote a couple book soccer nomics and money in soccer. And they had done a study to see that they were trying to answer the question what countries used their resources the best. So they were looking at variables like GDP per CAPiTA population size and then international appearances. And they were kind of just using those to try to predict goal differential, and then they would look to see what countries outperformed their predicted goal differential. And then I kind of thought that would be cool if you could just map the goal differentials into probabilities of a win loss or draw and that's kind of how I formulated the model and I ended up using the FIFA rankings and home field advantages variables. I would have loved to have used salaries, but I just didn't have enough time to get all that data. So your model had really very few variables and I'm surprised that there were it didn't seem like there were any individual player data variables other than their salary, you know, in terms of amount of minutes they handled the ball. But now in World Cup, they're not playing with their normal team, right? So did you think that would those that data.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

05:57 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

"And he wasn't happy and wanted let him down the year before when he was gonna come sparce message was behind it and then lost women on pulled out messy felt humiliated so that didn't get to a great stuff and monday tommy arrives. It's twenty eight e costs two hundred fifty million dollars. Something like that way. Too much for twenty. Eight url so continuous Undoing messy did not tell him to get those guys you know. he doesn't kind of scout. We'll transferred unanimous. He doesn't he wants them to do that joke. But when i do it wrong he gets really angry. Simon cooper the book is the barcelona complex leonov messy and the making unmaking of the world's greatest soccer clubs simon cooper the financial times. Thank you so much joining us. Thank you excellent. Soft thank you sir. I was brilliant. Thank you guys. Thanks very much. Billy do you use your In other places outside the show like in your personal life like when your wife says something you Sound weird but maybe not if. I'm sitting in an empty room. I don't do much interacting with people outside of work. No i mean using that in your personal life right like if your wife is saying something. You're like Like do use the With her like people. Don't you have a cousin named people like when you're around him if he says a bunch of crazy shit we just be like No sometimes i'll say i'll just say i mean the honesty is more so like a group setting thing. I think someone else has to hear the for it to really be effective right. If that i'm just saying to myself do you ever use an ridden form. What would it be. What would be the written form of H m right. Yeah no i. Obviously but i mean like like the keep calm. I feel like if you just write a one word text. That is the word interesting. That's your way of saying in text. Yeah i think. I've texted thing. But i was thinking when you ask the question more so on email and now i'm kind of taking it like as a dare to use An email with someone. And i'm trying to figure out what email i can kind of get away with doing it because i try to do that so i don't know if you guys are like me but i try to sometimes like see like little things that i can do to get away with things just to make myself laugh that no one will know and it's not like making fun of anyone. We've talked about this before lakeland every single meeting that we've had with gary. I have not said. See gary at the end because i'm like i don't want it to be rude but like it's it's a perfect use to see a gary right at the end of a meeting. But i've never done. Because i don't want it to be like viewed as like disrespect for like i'm joking But yeah now. I want to kind of challenge myself to use In an e mail. How do you guys spelt And those at them age and m m there's gotta be a double 'em is not h. m. and in m well that's That's known of space. Each immersed 'em into one to heck's the somebody Off the spell another one. That's hard for me. As jeez louise not one hundred percent sure on us. Well mother jesus and jeez louise easy. Nice i go. J. j. j. Yeah jeeze. J i f and g g i f with the by say. Jeez with j just voice memos now most of you have been recipients of voice memos. You don't have to wear things on a voice memo billy not you. Why is that I don't know 'em either Interesting voice memos they're just voicemails of the two of the twenty twenty s. Yeah people hate voicemails. We basically got rid of voicemails from our society and now we just decided well. What if we text them to each other. That makes it different rather than it coming at the end of a phone. Call their voicemails. But so much better woody. They just are. I don't know like they're sure. As a matter of fact i inflection and i don't know it's more personal. Wow i think. The voice mail is now underrated. And here's why because the voice mail now comes with a transcription before when we were phasing the voicemail out of our society. It was just this thing that you had to listen to. Now on the iphone you can open up the voicemail and gives you a transcription if anything more convenient than the voice memo You know if you don't even wanna listen to it based on the on the transcription. I don't need this one then sometime looking. Like what the hell does this say. None of this makes any sense in is because it's like a robo dial thing in a catches like halfway through and i'm like i'm curious now also cars warranty that's the only text you can figure no car warranties and student loans if anyone were ever call me with a legitimate offer on like student loans or car warranty. I would have no idea if it was true. Just assume it's always a scam and none of it's real also and this i. I don't know. I should be saying this allowed but i got called the other day And i rarely calls if i don't have it saved. I got called the other day by. What i believe was like a police. Union like a troopers union or something like that right. And i picked it up because i didn't know and i'm going through in their league asking for donations or whatever and i'm like okay like yeah the send me. Send me the semi stuff in the mail. And then they're like well you know we could just do it over the phone right now like if you wanna pledge like this amount of that amount and then we can send you the stuff and then after a little bit like. I don't know how to end this. So i just hung up and now every time i drive wondering if this is gone like through like the police circles or group tech and they're just looking for me to get me for hanging up on a fellow officer. The florida highway patrol is out to get you know. Possibly there's there's a group chat or they go. Hey if you see this. Billy guy he he he. He hung up eighty percent for the wave through a donation call. Well that's the thing is. I'm wondering if that's something that happens right and the next time i got a ticket. I feel like the way that i started like. Listen i'm sorry about that. Call back in august. I just at a lot going on. And.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

07:15 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Le Batard & Friends - Mystery Crate

"Now though audi we're not bothered you though about your i feel like the the redness of your hair has not really been subject matter until very recently i own a about your arm out of the studio for that but i feel like generally your. Your redness is not discussed go. I want to ask literally called him a ginger on thursday. Yeah yeah all right. Let's pick something that someone else in. The room should be insecure about and pointed out. tony's mustache. Oh these empty room to foot billy. Your rooms kinda creepy. I don't oh no the poll by the way that you put on your instagram revealed. What now in opponent instagram. Yep she put one hundred about my mustache and me who are talking with talking to talking to you and it was about sixty eight percent yes and i was one of the sixty eight. I like. must've been. Why did you give me a low blow about me. Being insecure about my own facial. It was the first thing i could think of. That wasn't really burned. That might like be funny to be honest okay Because we are all thinking also as the confidence to carry it and so i think you'll be just fine. You'll go home. And i actually today when he's around people when when he's alone. Oh we have me as a clause. Roy sorority bruce of tony weekdays. Homey shorter is a deep aside. The tune dad. We don't know about All right roy. I have to say something mean about jesse. Just just hit on there is. There's nobody i'm going to say. I'm gonna do a noise and you guys are gonna say who amongst us carries the most judgment when they do it. It's billy nobody can like billy whenever you say something and it's followed by billy. What do you mean the like that. The what do you mean thing. It's always something i say like. If i'm saying something and then all of a sudden you just hear he does it to me. That's like basically in defense in billy's defense. I don't think it is always a judgment. As a matter of fact. I'd say it is rarely a judgment For me it's mostly a conversation carrying Yeah let's let criticizing rolling someone to say. Yeah it's like chris cody of meetings. And there's like just an awkward silence. Seems like it's gonna stop. It's like i know just throwing is this sounds. I feel like the first five months of meetings. I just could not now now. I'll just like leave my cell phone me and i'll be like someone else is doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not saying anything and you guys are all just like you guys start laughing because it's like chris hates mystery craig All right so what do we have on tap for mystery create this week. We have an interview that you did. Chris wittingham tell us about this. All right so we have in An author his name is simon cooper a great book about messy and barcelona and it came out at exactly the right time. It's publishing this week. A week ago he left from barcelona to para senator man. And we talk about all the difficulties with messi barcelona's actually how he's kind of low key like a little bit of a machiavellian lebron figure. Here's simon cooper with mike and myself. Mr great remarkable timing on this book did you kind of know that d- day for messy in barcelona was going to be coming here. No i mean when. I woke up on sunday morning and when messy woke up shepherd on thursday morning. We both feel. He's going to sign a new contract with bus london today. And it will be set up fifty percents of his previous salary. Still well-specified On thursday they fuss extracts of my book it in my newspaper financial times at a couple of hours later. Fc bustle owner tells macy's representatives actually. Sorry we caught even off the overseas contracts. There's no money a toll when lance Contract did i expect this. When i began to book a couple of years ago. When i began research i could see that. We're kind of cracks in ceiling. Fc boss lineup you by april twenty nine team when i just begun they beaten livable Home look like i'm gonna win. The champions league final probably win. It won the spanish league around the world. It ola pretty good. You would have said that with its best team in the world so this did happen. Quite suddenly sa- always rising. I went from writing the story of greatness to writes in the story of rise in full. And so there's been so much conversation about how barcelona got this all wrong. How they ended up in this predicament. How much of it is based on the pandemic and how much of it is based on the mismanagement that you chronicle in this book i think the pandemic was the final blow. I mean every football club in the world had the pandemic and oni. Fc bus celona has been in financial meltdown. Where the debts of about one point four billion dollars so it's not just the pandemic. What two things going on in five years before one is a catch by players for too much money to rum planets so they spent over a billion dollars in five years from twenty eight more than any other soccer club and ended up with this aging squad. We've met resale value. And that's you know largely president artemio the previous presidents. doing and the other thing. is that message not horse. Hey came to the club all the time saying you know my son could leave this summer as ronin contract league free unless you up his wages a game and sobar demeo sanctuary. We'll give them away drives. Why not we have the highest revenues in the whole world of sport and so messy salary treble from two thousand fourteen twenty twenty and then all the other way drives two salaries out of control transfers control this while i was actually just about to ask you because there are players that don't even make a contribution to barsa because there are some players right now. That aren't even legally allowed to make a contribution are because it can't be registered but the wages over there are so much higher in comparison even other elite soccer clubs. Why is it is it. Punitive tax laws is a of things for barcelona. Yeah i mean by the time. The pandemic broke out. Busload have approximately highest wage bill in any team school of any club and teams in the world so high event nba teams higher than any other. Schulkin why is that. I think it's mostly messy effect. And then that spanish generation great spanish generation that came with him plays like pk. Worst gets a state on a george alibi. Seattle this old team. Everyone gets away drives every day messy festival messy. Salary was came ridiculous even though he's messy by the end loss for years he was ending bad one hundred fifty million dollars a year which is probably more than double any other soccer player in the world is getting in salary ad today. You have to say we understand that they wanna keep wanna keep betsy happy clubs be built around keeping my happy but that you let out get out of control guidelines to go by. Munich said he busts out laughing when he sold messy salary. We've seen a lot of great players. Managers leave lolita recently. Some of them embroiled tax controversies. Surely but they're obviously paying big time wage bills. What's going on within spain that now you're seeing some players of a the highest quality not one of play..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Men In Blazers

Men In Blazers

02:58 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Men In Blazers

"And save the other side america. Thank you for service. But the reality was this book. When the manhattan i loved that i dreamt about moving to was just the ground zero of couvert in the pandemic grip. The city sports stop the city had dreamed of moving. Since i was a little kid was just overwhelmed. And i didn't want to be and so i wrote. This book is a love letter to trim the trace the contours of my love. The united states of america and i rooted almost in a fever dream and it started with a pandemic but then america just disintegrated into the plant lives matter summer. The agony the trauma of that into the election cycle just the human doggedness. We're moments when i was writing. The book tend to my wife as warm. I doing leasing a love letter of america. Things go a slightly terrible win the election. The only people who wanna hear about my love of america on newsmax. And i'm gonna have to get done junior to blow my board responded to. This appearance has been truly epic and julius. I've always worked so bloody hard to try and take football in america into places i fail. It belongs to do that on tuesday night. Especially with colbert. I often joke. Dr love american mode and kenny powers loves america but to me stephen lewis lebron of loving this country and its monologues to may have been a true light in the darkness during this pandemic and one other thing that i believe is really important to. The late show is created by an immensely kind generous culture of human beings from top to bottom. Which is which is really unbelievable for an enterprise which is built by such a huge star and a true testament to what stephen producer chris licht of crafted to more to more. And thanks as ever for your positive vibe dellis now and your word of mouth the you continue to send out about my book and the audio version of reborn in the usa means means bloody so much to me really does the world and one other. They actually started writing. I love i mean one of the things that legacy of the book is really enjoyed marine and to try and reinforce that i have just built a new newsletter entitled courage and you can sign up for it at roger bennett. Dot bulletin dot com. That's roger bennett. Dot bulletin dot com. This week talked about the implosion of barcelona with my friend. The great financial times journalist. Simon cooper who has released this week. The definitive book on the subject to sign up for courage. Now support simon's book. Let's do this.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Takeline

Takeline

05:57 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Takeline

"Welcome to another bonus episode of take line. We messy his left. Barcelona is signed with paris. Saint germain european football star His his leaving. Barcelona is an earthquake. One of the top three most iconic stars in sports. It is the end of an era to dig into this. I spoke with simon cooper his new book. The barcelona complex lionel messi in the making an unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club comes out august. Seventeenth we talk about the entire messy saga as well as how barcelona got to this point so simon. pse is recently announced the.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

05:20 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

"Some really bad stuff So that's where you took that interesting. You're really good friend Epl prediction time jj here. We go ready go bottom three. I'll go first. Because i'm courageous. Brentford norwich sean. Dyche and burnley gone. Woo in no particular order palace. Waterford sean dyson god. All right there you have it Manager of the year. I'm going to go out in a limb here. Andrew a very big limb one of the fatter limbs that i have got I'm gonna say they're going to finish high enough that he's going to be in the conversation and win it. Thomas frank of brentford holy moly. All right i respect that So wrong it's wrong. But i'm saying but sometimes this this prediction is always about what it's literally going to be 'cause usually i feel like this award just kind of goes to the manager of the team that wins the title. Actually i wonder if history back that up at any rate i kind of am doing something similar. Not nearly to the extent you are but I'm gonna go with brendan rodgers. Jj i think lester will continue to fight for top four. I don't think they'll get it as you'll find out i just gave away but i think that they'll fight. And so i wanna kinda give a tip of the caps brennan He's gonna show tremendous character by again failing the and the top four manager of the year. What are you talking about you madman are you hi. I can't wait for brentford. Get relegated now after you talked to me this way Let's see top score go i. Jj this guy for me. Penalty-taking has a lot to do with this. So i had written down lukaku and then i thought you know what george senior takes those penalties. I don't know that it's going to be lukaku. I think penalties are part of this samaniego bruno. Fernandez it's a good pick. He'd want to Pick up from his euro slump. But it is a good pick. I'm going with mohammed saleh. Okay player of the year Angola kante a win a third. Pf player of the year. I'm going back to my tried and true kevin lebron's last but not least. Jj our top four in order in order so starting at four and going to warn right that's correct Manchester united liverpool chelsea. Relax and drink water man city. I'll tell you what you have zapped the drama from this. I have literally the same four in the order. Man united pool chelsea and then city hoisting the trophy once more like we said these predictions are main every nonsense. So please wow. I can't wait. It's back this saturday. I'm very excited. Obviously manchester city and tottenham. I'll see on on sunday i'm pumped for that. I'm so curious of all the teams for them to start out with With the hurricane situation brewing between those two clubs. I don't know. I wonder if can play in that if he scores like would he celebrate just a quick run through the fixtures while we're at it at brentford arsenal kickoff soft on friday at three pm at manchester united leeds. United watt again. That is seven thirty. Am saturday leicester city. Wolves chelsea crystal palace wofford aston villa and everton southampton make up the rest of the saturday games and then owner. They don't excuse me burnley brighton. Norwich city and liverpool conclude saturday and then sunday newcastle west. Time on tottenham. A man city is the later game on sunday. Can't wait my friend. It's going to be a fun season. I'm excited to do it again with you. This is this is where our bread is buttered. Right this is where the bread is buttered. It's where we branch out into all areas of football from the eternal central bow. That is primarily. Yeah well put the scent. It's not about which the trunk. sorry. I actually don't even know what you're talking about. I blacked out and and got to be honest with you. I'm tired at this point. So i am talking a lot hoop. We've done a lot. Obviously i hope everybody enjoyed parts one and two of our epl preview. If you missed it. I would suggest go back. Check out On wednesday we had a special bonus. Podcast where we talked to simon cooper who just has a book coming out now detailing barcelona's rise and fall with lionel messi. The timing of of that book is it's almost it's almost suspicious. To be perfectly honest. He was phenomenal. That conversation was great So you know like if you're like us and you've been just enamored by what's going on there and just like soaking up information as much information as you can get check out that podcast because It was it was a fascinating conversation with simon about messy in barcelona. This was awesome man. Enjoy the games this weekend everybody. Jj to you. I say take later on by sia. Take care around listening to cod. Off-side soccer podcast..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

06:50 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

"Really want to win the if we win the cupcakes losing money. I'm gonna lose my house. I didn't lose ever since in my savings accounts and more and so people get very afraid. That's the spanish low about member clubs in the two biggest member owned clubs in the world of lona and real madrid. simon cooper. joining us. Here on caught offside talking about his book. The barcelona complex leonov messy and making and unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club Simon with regards to messy just to view him from afar. He's always struck me as a fairly quiet reserve superstar who is tremendous at the sport loves. The sport just wants to play the sport. Is that a false perception. How involved is he in terms of what goes on behind the scenes that club. What what sort of level of power does he have within. Or did he have within barcelona. I think that was a big way in my perception of bus change. While i was writing the book when i began i feel like you just said you know. He doesn't really have much of a analogy. He doesn't talk mark. She wants flight football and he he doesn't worry projects himself beyond that and i came away having spoken saved. Dozens of people inside stuff as heat ninety before he's made his debut presidency. Wet them thinking. This kid is the biggest powerbroker inside the club. I think there's some parallels ready fully on the side of the michael jordan's chicago bulls relationship. Jordan was a massive powerbroker and message. Ready the dominant figure inside the club. In every coach they have polling every player. They wanna buy sell every tactical change they. Might i think will leo like this. And so the whole club for fifteen is messy strategy of what our number one aim is to kick messy happy and of course you know we can now say it's ended up badly has but remember what brilliantly fifteen years the messy strategy fifteen minutes was the best management projection history. He runs the club. Mo- not not alone but he's the most powerful figure for fifteen years inside cup. Did you come across examples of of ways in which they would bend over backwards. Aside from his contract other ways in which through the club they would bend over to keep him pleased. Well one example is they buys. Lastly brahima base I think something like fifty million euros is two thousand nine huge amount of money a top ten player in the well this kind of stuff centerfold and within a couple of months messy says you know what my game is. I cut him from the wing. I run into the mail and cutting to the middle as is massive sweet jazz and giving the bowl. I don't like that sebastian Okay messy okay. We'll get rid of the sweet and you could imagine many other clubs They would say plan. You know what live with it. We paid fifty million euros for him. He's talked ten years to find a way to play with to supply app also to his own shock loss at one season because messy didn't like that the other thing messy failed but really put in a lot of of his capital. Political capsule was by name or back in twenty nine hundred messy says the bus nine. The guy i to play with getting back bus. Lona the peter run the club look at name on twenty nine hundred thirty twenty seven years old injured laws. Two hundred million euro transfer We don't want him but they spend a whole summit pretending to buy him said the end of summer they can go back to leo. And say you know leo. We tried so hard. We did everything but he wouldn't sell it so messy doesn't always get his white but they always try and please him and often give him his wife. They'll never point a coke. She doesn't like villanova appointed because he was macy's in disease messy favorite coach for mris. Teenager has data Tino guy we know reputation. It's little points to this coach and he was from lasagna simon. I'm curious about the. The mythos are legend of lamb ac- at the academy did that. There's there's a great line in the book by a whole valdano where he talks about the arrogance where barcelona used to be the the middle. The team that was picked upon and now they're the arrogant team Was there an era this coming out of our confidence coming out of. Jv in the bush gets of that golden generation of graduates that. Hey we can keep doing this. We don't need to play the game that the manchester united's on the chelsea's playing well. I mean they were right. They they had mentioned all they had realized the crise invasion which christ about in the nineteen sixties an ira with revivals of the full of the future. Which is we kicked a bowl. We play teams off. We great pausing triangles when we lose it we went back five seconds night. Did it perfectly. That writes spirit. But you're right that the club's end so we can keep producing the world's best players and of course intended is they. Haven't we've got the loss great player to come out of the messiah. And what happened as the united giving of Fleet the by She's come germany coach earlier in his coaching correct. Alleged is spent a week or a couple of weeks hanging around absorbing. The secrets coach's role over the while during it. And you see that england and germany which are very different in cultures. They've copied the bustling away. So if you don't get the england team this summer little guys you can play. Football jaden sancho phil foton avocados sakai. They don't look like england plays do like. That's not winning. Is ever looked little guys who can pass. They look like boss alerted plans. So you see england. In germany of copied the boss loaner academy style at every big academy in england germany. All that middle guys you can pass at. So when everyone is boss learner when everyone is the messiah then the messiah loses surmounted simon. You were very enamored by the messier. I felt in the book. I thought i thought you thought that this was some kind of you know i. It came across to me because it was much more than a football academy was like a schoo- and there was also manners. They preached a lot of things about minors. It was more like a you know a rugby school. A private school in. Dublin are paris to me get analogy. I mean i thought it was sort of like a catholic seminary where job is pastoral as look after the boys. Yeah maybe a private school. Without the bruce house old cheeses whether it's private schools football economies forty as i went to in english primarily academy at a big club because club twenty years ago was brutal was horrible. They shouted at boys. Coaches treated them really horribly The boys had horrible experience. It goes.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

07:13 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

"We have been talking about this for it over week now Basically since the messy news happened and we knew that we were going to have this person on the show. It's almost like simon cooper Had some way coordinated the situation with messy. He just has a book coming out now called the barcelona complex leeann messy and the making and unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club We've been so excited to to simon given everything in the news and the nature of this book and he's kind enough to join us now. Simon cooper what's up man. How are you a very good things. Talking to you. Directly from spain from valencia the plot thickens this book like jason. I like i said we have started talking about this Probably about a week or so ago when we knew you were going to be coming on the podcast and the messy news has been so prevalent obviously and much of your book Kind covers the rise and almost unexpected fall of barcelona. So i kinda wanna start giving that the messy news has been so prevalent and it's the fall of barcelona that seems to be on people's minds. I kind of wanted to start there almost at the end of the story the turning point for barcelona of when things started to turn in this direction. Can you look at a particular transfer a hiring decision. When did the turn occur. Will in my book identify as the departure nighmare twenty seven scene and i think messi would say the same that messy anima of the ideal pop shit the young nine the nine mile who is willing to run onto. Massey's passes the winner. The nippy winger with brilliant technique was the partner that message away wanted to have and messy was just devastated when he left and then to make things worse almost immediately bus. Learning blow latte money wasted two hundred twenty million euros. They got from name up on patino and Never really perform performing the company answer. That's the moment where the enormous riches of ostlund all this money coming in stocks instant debts and old failed players. Simon one of the great things that you do in this book. And i'm enjoying it immensely. Is you create. A sense of what barcelona is that. I don't think a lot of people have and it's this says contained almost city nation with a small ruling class on from that they look their leaders the bourgeois as as as you call them in the book so is this. I suppose is what happened to barcelona a consequence of looking your leaders from this small amount of people that may not be football people and you end up with joseph back to mayo who maybe had not the decision making now that was needed in barcelona has been mismanaged but many football clubs over time of being mismanaged very different structures much kober structures bustling Cooperation it's not a business. It's a club Abusive is democracy. One hundred and fifty thousand members elect president and often. They like the president. He's not good at running a business but absolutely true. Other football clubs. We started too late. That president okay. So i wouldn't really blame the democracy house aspect. I think the deeper problem is that when you number one bustling win number one for many years from two thousand and six in a decade when full champions leagues you stop thinking you become lazy and so celona had wells by youth. Academy the my. Ci everyone copied it every club. Livable to buy me. Nate flew in and hung around. What we're doing copy this kind of university of the past busload play the football of the twentieth. Th century before the twenty century this hide pays pricing pausing. Football teams of everyone copied. It did it better. And so when you're number one you get lazy. And i think that's a lot of the story when you're number one the money zanan you worry less about each individual. Dolor how you spend it. And when mrs volley keeps coming to every year asking for pay rises for his song you think well why not give it to him. I mean the kid is the best player in the world. We're happy talk from here. And in the end goes you run out of money that that aspect of messy and his contract is is very interesting because like you say his contract by the end it was astronomical the financial number that he was on was a part of the problem for barcelona or because of just his mere presence with the club what he brought in through jersey sales or marketing deals was an almost was a net positive for him for them even with that huge financial number. I mean i spent two years going around bustling rising. the Comes to the conclusion that obviously in football messy as a net positive of a magnitude can't comprehend. I mean this is the best plan club relationship. The most productive planet club relationships of fifteen years in the history of football not clubs ever employed someone. Who's done so much for it. This is the second city of mid-size european country. There's no very rich. The best club in wealth so that messy more than any other individual. That's him eight and financial times. You end up destroying the club so messy made the club and he is held to break it financially because he this rolling contracts every summer he was able to leave on free transparent and so every year for famous as dad would say you know my son might lead some one high-rise and that every other player in the squad wants a pay rise as well to keep up with messy understands messy salaries can read the highest. But if messiaen's one hundred. I should twenty and so you end up with a high highest salary bill in soccer and can't afford it anymore and then the pandemic comes and this one misfortune just sinks so messy did more than anyone else make the club in more than anyone else. Break it financially one thing. I can't understand. Simon is i keep thinking of The scenes in the The wizard of wall street. Where the bernie. Madoff character played by. Robert deniro is. He's beginning to panic. The walls are closing in. I and i keep thinking about barcelona here and barcelona. What i discovered from your book. Is that the board members are on the hook for losses. Why isn't there. More of a sense of panic of of of of urgency are are was there. Did that did that. did that. just happen. Re- recently yeah. I mean if you become a director bus lowness says about fifteen of them. The president than every euro you lose you have to pay back according to the low out of your own pocket and so last year in the pandemic obviously is big part of it but they lost nearly half billion euros you so you could lose molin annual house. I mean these are rich. Guys club is run by the rich local costs but yet padding massively which is why they writing abso- swap from arjun guarantee events as piano coming boss learner waste ready for accounting purposes to make the books. Look better so yeah. I mean these guys really panic and a lot of the candidates in their potential directions running in the elections president this spring..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

Caught Offside

06:59 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

"Really want to win the if we win the cupcakes losing money. I'm gonna lose my house. I didn't lose ever since in my savings accounts and more and so people get very afraid. That's the spanish low about member clubs in the two biggest member owned clubs in the world of lona and real madrid. simon cooper. joining us. Here on caught offside talking about his book. The barcelona complex leonov messy and making and unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club Simon with regards to messy just to view him from afar. He's always struck me as a fairly quiet reserve superstar who is tremendous at the sport loves. The sport just wants to play the sport. Is that a false perception. How involved is he in terms of what goes on behind the scenes that club. What what sort of level of power does he have within. Or did he have within barcelona. I think that was a big way in my perception of bus owner change. While i was writing the book when i began. I feel like you just said you know. He doesn't really have much of a schnauzer. He doesn't talk mark. She wants flight football and he he doesn't worry projects himself beyond that and i came away having spoken saved dozens of people inside stuff as heat ninety before he's made his debut presidency. Wet them thinking. This kid is the biggest powerbroker inside the club. I think there's some parallels ready fully on the side of the michael jordan's chicago bulls relationship. Jordan was a massive powerbroker and message. Ready the dominant figure inside the club. In every coach they have polling every player. They wanna buy sell every tactical change they. Might i think will leo like this. And so the whole club for fifteen is messy strategy of what our number one aim is to kick messy happy and of course you know we can now say it's ended up badly has but remember what brilliantly fifteen years the messy strategy fifteen minutes was the best management projection history. He runs the club. Mo- not not alone but he's the most powerful figure for fifteen years inside cup. Did you come across examples of of ways in which they would bend over backwards. Aside from his contract other ways in which through the club they would bend over to keep him pleased. Well one example is they buys. Lastly brahima base I think something like fifty million euros is two thousand nine huge amount of money a top ten player in the well this kind of stuff centerfold and within a couple of months messy says you know what my game is. I cut him from the wing. I run into the mail and cutting to the middle as massive sweet jazz and giving the bowl said i don't like that and sebastian Okay messy okay. We'll get rid of the sweet and you could imagine many other clubs Plan you know what live with it. We paid fifty million euros. He's talked ten years to find a way to play with to supply app also to his own shock loss at one season because messy didn't like that the other thing messy failed but really put in a lot of of his capital. Political capsule was by name or back in twenty nine hundred messy says the bus nine. The guy i to play with getting back bus. Lona the peter run the club look at name on twenty nine hundred thirty twenty seven years old injured laws. Two hundred million euro transfer We don't want him but they spend a whole summit pretending to buy him said the end of summer they can go back to leo. And say you know leo. We tried so hard. We did everything but he wouldn't sell it so messy doesn't always get his white but they always try and please him and often give him his wife. They'll never point a coke. She doesn't like villanova appointed because he was macy's in disease messy favorite coach for mris. Ti jazz data Tino guy we know reputation it's all points to this. Coach is the knew the macy's and he was from lasagna. Simon i'm curious about the. The mythos are legend of lamb ac- at the academy did that. There's there's a great line in the book by a whole valdano where he talks about the arrogance where barcelona used to be the the middle. The team that was picked upon and now they're the arrogant team Was there an era this coming out of our confidence coming out of. Jv in the bush gets of that golden generation of graduates that. Hey we can keep doing this. We don't need to play the game that the manchester united's on the chelsea's playing well. I mean they were right. They they had mentioned They had realized the crise invasion which christ about in the nineteen sixties an ira refills of the full of the future. Which is we kicked a bowl. We play unable to teams off. We great pausing triangles when we lose it we went back five seconds night. Did it perfectly that writes spirit. But you're right that the club's end so we can keep producing the world's best players and of course intended is they. Haven't we've got the loss great player to come out of the murcia. And what happened as the united giving of Fleet the by She's come germany coach earlier in his coaching correct. Alleged is spent week or a couple of weeks hanging around absorbing. The secrets coach's role over the while during it and you see that england and germany which are very different in cultures. They've copied the bustling away. So if you don't get the england team this summer little guys you can play. Football jaden sancho phil foton avocados sakai. They don't look like england plays do like. That's not winning. Is ever looked little guys who can pass. They look like boss alerted plans. So you see england. In germany of copied the boss loaner academy style at every big academy in england germany. All that middle guys you can pass at so when everyone is boss learner. When everyone is the easier than the messiah lose it surmounted simon. You were very enamored by the messier. I felt in the book. I thought i thought you thought that this was some kind of you know i. It came across to me because it was much more than a football academy was like a schoo- and there was also manners. They preached a lot of things about minors. It was more like a you know a rugby school. A private school in. Dublin are paris to me get analogy. I mean i thought it was sort of like a catholic seminary where job is pastoral hasten. Look after the boys. Yeah maybe a private school. Without the bruce house old cheeses whether it's private schools football economies forty as i went to in english primarily academy at a big club because club twenty years ago was brutal was horrible. They shouted at boys. Coaches treated them really horribly The boys had horrible experience. It goes ninety percent of and never made it is pro sees horrible teenage experience. And then you guess isn't and that was what most notable economies alive..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

Caught Offside

07:13 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

"We have been talking about this for it over week now Basically since the messy news happened and we knew that we were going to have this person on the show. It's almost like simon cooper Had some way coordinated the situation with messy. He just has a book coming out now called the barcelona complex leeann messy and the making and unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club We've been so excited to to simon given everything in the news and the nature of this book and he's kind enough to join us now. Simon cooper what's up man. How are you a very good things. Talking to you. Directly from spain from valencia the plot thickens this book like jason. I like i said we have started talking about this Probably about a week or so ago when we knew you were going to be coming on the podcast and the messy news has been so prevalent obviously and much of your book Kind of covers the rise and almost unexpected fall of barcelona. So i kinda wanna start giving that the messy news has been so prevalent and it's the fall of barcelona that seems to be on people's minds. I kind of wanted to start there almost at the end of the story the turning point for barcelona of when things started to turn in this direction. Can you look at a particular transfer a hiring decision. When did the turn occur. Will in my book identify as the departure nighmare twenty seven scene and i think messi would say the same that messy anonima of the ideal pop. Shit the young nine the nine Who is willing to run the onto. Massey's passes the winner. The nippy winger with brilliant technique was the partner that message away wanted to have and messy was just devastated when he left and then to make things worse almost immediately bus. Learning blow latte money wasted two hundred twenty million euros. They got from name off on patino and Never really performing the Answer that's the moment where the enormous riches of ostlund all this money coming in sutan instant debts and old failed players. Simon one of the great things that you do in this book. And i'm enjoying it immensely. Is you create. A sense of what barcelona is that. I don't think a lot of people have and it's this says contained almost city nation with a small ruling class on from that they look their leaders the bourgeois as as as you call them in the book so is this. I suppose is what happened to barcelona a consequence of looking your leaders from this small amount of people that may not be football people. And you end up with joseph back to mayo who maybe had not the decision making now that was needed in. Barcelona has been mismanaged but many football clubs over time of being mismanaged with very different structures much kober structures bustling nautical cooperation. It's not a business. It's a club. And that's what's the beauty of it. Is democracy one hundred. Fifty thousand members elect president and often. They like the president. He's not good at running a business but absolutely true. Other football clubs. We started too late. That president okay. So i wouldn't really blame the democracy house. I think the deeper problem is that when you number one bustling win number one for many years from two thousand and six in a decade that in full champions leagues you stop thinking you become lazy and so celona had world's best youth academy the my. Ci everyone copied it every club. Livable to buy me. Nate flew in and hung around. What we're doing copy this kind of university of the past busload play the football of the twentieth. Th century before the twenty first century this hide pays pricing pausing. Football teams of everyone copied. It did it better. And so when you're number one you get lazy. And i think that's a lot of the story when you're number one the money zanan you worry less about each individual. Dolor how you spend it. And when mrs volley keeps coming to every year asking for pay rises for his song you think well why not give it to him. I mean the kid is the best player in the world. We're happy talk from here. And in the end goes you run out of money that that aspect of messy and his contract is very interesting because like you say his contract by the end it was astronomical the financial number that he was on was a part of the problem for barcelona or because of just his mere presence with the club what he brought in through jersey sales or marketing deals was an almost was a net positive for him for them even with that huge financial number. I mean i spent two years going around bustling rising. the Comes to the conclusion that obviously in football messy as a net positive of a magnitude that we can't comprehend. I mean this is the best plan club relationship. The most productive planet club relationships of fifteen years in the history of football not clubs ever employed someone. Who's done so much for. This is the second city of mid-size european country. There's no very rich. The best club in world so that messy more than any other individual. That's him eight and financial times. You end up destroying the club so messy made the club and he is held to break it financially because he this rolling contracts every summer he was able to leave on free transparent and so every year for famous as dad would say you know my son might lead some one high-rise and that every other player in the squad wants a pay rise as well to keep up with messy understands messy salaries the highest but if messiaen's one hundred. I should twenty. And so you end up with a highest salary bill in soccer and can't afford it anymore and then the pandemic comes and this one misfortune just sinks so messy did more than anyone else might the club in more than anyone else. Break it financially one thing. I can't understand. Simon is i keep thinking of The scenes in the The wizard of wall street. Where the bernie. Madoff character played by. Robert deniro is. He's beginning to panic. The walls are closing in. I and i keep thinking about barcelona here and barcelona. What i discovered from your book. Is that the board members are on the hook for losses. Why isn't there. More of a sense of panic of of of of urgency are are was there did that. did that. just happen. re- recently. Yeah i mean if you become a director. Bus lowness says about fifteen of them. The president than every euro. You lose you have to pay back according to the low out of your own pocket and so last year in the pandemic obviously is big part of it but they lost nearly half billion euros. You so you could lose molin annual house. I mean these are rich. Guys is run by the rich local costs but yet padding massively which is why they're writing Bazaar swap from arjun guarantee events as piano coming boss learner waste ready for accounting purposes to make the books. Look better so yeah i mean these guys really panic and a lot of the candidates in their potential directions running in the elections president this spring..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

03:39 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

"Do that job. I'm i'm just saying that people shouldn't you know. Jump to to conclusions yet. I i still think. It's gonna be fascinating. The on as much as i hit this project. I can't wait for the book that's gonna promoted. Yeah the ex g philosophy. Jj they tweeted the expected goals per ninety minutes last season for messy. It was point eight. Two neymars was point. Eight four and bought they was point. Eight seven so the x g per ninety minutes was two and a half goals per game. We're talking. We're sitting here talking about like i don't know if they're gonna be able to defend well if they're tina scoring three goals like at least on a nightly basis like how much i don't know how much defending or you're going to have to do all of a sudden all of a sudden mass. He's going to be on a team. Because i i know. I'm not not obviously speaking for everyone. In the in the you know the spanish speaking world because i knew it's not the case that there's a lot of rail madrid finds out there fans of other teams too. I understand that. But where i come from a was such a joy to watch messy that you you root for barcelona unless they were against your team you root for them always and now he's going to be on a team who are the debt star. They are the bags and it's going to be It's gonna be fun to root against them. So keep your eyes open for the The interview that we're going to have coming up probably early next week. I would say most likely tuesday. You'll see that. Come out. With simon cooper the author of this book about messy in barcelona. I can't wait this. I have so many questions. It because again the big thing the biggest question that i have for him that you and i can't answer. We can only speculate on is i. Just keep wondering. Jj if barcelona if joan laporta if if he knew all along because you hear these stats about even if messy had volunteered to play the season for free they still would not have been able to do it within the parameters of lolitas rules and it wasn't even close and so like i know barcelona and laporta were saying that you know what we just got back our financial audit. We don't we didn't know until now bs there's just no way. The numbers are not close. Enough where you couldn't have possibly known until hours before messy was supposed to sign this deal. This felt to me like they to me. I'm saying my conspiracy theory. They always knew they always knew that this relationship wasn't gonna continue but they were trying to save face. Remember laporta basically won this election by we always said a vote for laporta was vote for messy to remain at the club so he got into office on that. I think he knew we can't do this. But i can't i can't make it look like i'm the one who's forcing him out now. After saying that. I want him to stay so i think that this was the way that they went about it. That is my opinion. I can't wait to ask simon if what he thinks if if barcelona always knew that this relationship was going to have to end and they just didn't know how to manage it andrew going to stop you there. I could talk forever about that. That particular wrinkle. You're in in this amazing story You're onto something there but we will save it. We all know otherwise. Who's gonna talk about. Brentford you really have a way of transition. Your master of the transition. I'll tell you what. I'm not even going to attempt a transition from this into brentford or whatever. So let's go ahead. Let's take a quick break. We'll we'll gather ourselves. We'll take off our messy jerseys. We'll come back. We'll put on our brentford kits full kit f. k. w. brentford. We'll come back and we'll begin our two thousand twenty one twenty two. Epl preview there. Some things in life that. I like to pick out myself so i know i've got the one. That's best for me. Like cuts of steak mattresses bottles of wine. Well what if you could do the same for hiring chooser ideal candidate before they even apply. That's where ziprecruiter's invite to apply comes in. It gives you as the hiring manager of the power to pick your.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

Caught Offside

06:50 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

"With cooper about that before we get off of this and move to the epl preview. Which i know is why most of you are here. Although i'm guessing all of you who loved the sport are interested in this topic on messy. This is unbelievable what we've been watching Real quick on. Ps g So now we're looking at a team that has messy imbaba neymar as a front three They've brought in. I mean and the fact that they've done all this business on free transfers with ramos and messy and wynalda Who there was. There's somebody else do that. I'm forgetting But at any rate this team is insane. And i've i've kind of heard the narrative put out there. Yeah donald trump that's right there goalkeeper. Who won the tournament the euros. I mean my god. It's madness And so like. I will say credit to ps g. Yeah they gotta pay all this money in wages but they've done a lot on free transfers so You know at least they're keeping their spending in check somewhat in that way the thing i've heard now with regards to the upcoming season and moreover so with champions league is that this champions league now almost feels like a foregone conclusion. I would caution people to pump the brakes on that. I don't feel that way. I'm not saying the. Ps g won't be great and they would probably be my probably. They will be my favorite to win it but a front three. Let me ask you right now. Front three of of messy at thirty four Imbaba and neymar imbaba at the beginning of his prime name. All right in the middle of it is that a more intimidating front three. Then the messi neymar suarez front three at barcelona. And then i mean every year and that team had any esta and other greats. And i'm psg do to but it wasn't a foregone conclusion necessarily that that bar team was gonna win every year saw. I'm not willing to say that. This is any kind of foregone conclusion whatsoever. No and sport has a way of of humbling. The mighty and i think it was only a couple of weeks ago. We were talking about the business. That ps were doing signing donna room by the way signing sergio ram also will now be a teammate of lena. Messy yeah unbelievable but We we talked about this team. And you know. I'm not fully convinced about them. Defensively as good as martinez says as experienced as roma's Compound not convinced by you know. There's there's ways to get them and also you might have to get them because look at their record of the last few seasons. Maybe the changes this season but neymars never be one hundred percent fit for them when it came to the business. End of the champions league on imbaba struggled with injury last season two so i would tend to are on the side of caution before i go pilot money on with them. Yeah and there's a lot of players that are gonna be on this team. The back three that you mentioned martinez compan- day rama's i actually do think highly of those players. But we all know that in this sport. Defending is a team concept. It doesn't necessarily just fall to those players at the back. So i just wonder okay. They've put together outrageously talented. You know all time. Great attack-minded team but do they have players. That will buy into any kind of team concept when it comes to defending having to track back. I don't know so like back. Might be very good. But i just wonder is like like could any back three without help from other parts of the field be able to withstand that. Yeah i know. But i'm gonna correct course at a bit on this like someone like variety is top quality professional and. I don't think you could question him. In that. regard there They've got other midfielders as well. That will do that job. I'm i'm just saying that people shouldn't you know. Jump to to conclusions yet. I i still think. It's gonna be fascinating. The on as much as i hit this project. I can't wait for the book that's gonna promoted. Yeah the ex g philosophy. Jj they tweeted the Expected goals per ninety minutes last season for messy. It was point eight. Two neymars was point. Eight four and bought they was point. Eight seven so the x g per ninety minutes was two and a half goals per game. I mean we're talking. We're sitting here talking about like i don't know if they're gonna be able to defend well if they're tina scoring three goals like at least on a nightly basis like how much i don't know how much defending or you're going to have to do all of a sudden all of a sudden mass. He's going to be on a team. Because i i know i'm not not obviously speaking for everyone in the in the you know the spanish speaking world because i knew it's not the case that there's a lot of rail madrid finds out there fans of other teams to i understand that but where i come from a was such a joy to watch messy that you you root for barcelona unless they were against your team you root for them always and now he's going to be on a team who are the debt star. They are the bad guys. And it's going to be It's gonna be fun to root against them. So keep your eyes open for the The interview that we're going to have coming up probably early next week. I would say most likely tuesday. You'll see that. Come out. With simon cooper the author of this book about messy in barcelona. I can't wait. See i have so many questions. It because again the big thing the biggest question that i have for him that you and i can't answer. We can only speculate on is i. Just keep wondering. Jj if barcelona if joan laporta if if he knew all along because you hear these stats about even if messy had volunteered to play the season for free they still would not have been able to do it within the parameters of lolitas rules and it wasn't even close and so like i know barcelona and laporta were saying that you know what we just got back our financial audit. We don't we didn't know until now bs there's just no way. The numbers are not close. Enough where you couldn't have possibly known until hours before messy was supposed to sign this deal. This felt to me like they to me. I'm saying my conspiracy theory. They always knew they always knew that this relationship wasn't gonna continue but they were trying to save face. Remember laporta basically won this election by we always said a vote for laporta was vote for messy to remain at the club so he got into office on that. I think he knew we can't do this. But i can't i can't make it look like i'm the one who's forcing him out now. After saying that. I want him to stay so i think that this was the way that they went about it. That is my opinion. I can't wait to ask simon if what he thinks if if barcelona always knew that this relationship was going to have to end and they just didn't know how to manage it andrew going to stop you there. I could talk forever about that. That particular wrinkle. You're in in this amazing story You're onto something there but we will save it. We all know otherwise. Who's gonna talk about. Brentford you really have a way of transition. Your master of the transition. I'll tell you what. I'm not even going to attempt a transition from this into brentford or whatever. So let's go ahead. Let's take a quick break. We'll we'll gather ourselves. We'll take off our messy. Jerseys will come back. We'll put on our brentford kits full kit f. k. w. brentford..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Slate's Hang Up and Listen

Slate's Hang Up and Listen

05:43 min | 9 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Slate's Hang Up and Listen

"Thing about soccer is infinitely shrink about the economy. You can have a soccer club which has zero revenues. You just don't play. The play is anything and you won't be very good and you can have a billion euros revenues but it still the same club and same stadium with the same shots in the same emotional attachment. So i agreed. Soccer club shouldn't have to be in this race to constantly keep revenues rising because we know twenty years ago. When the revenues were relative peanuts they will popular on just fine to write some out i want to. I want a big down a little on that. Because you mentioned barcelona's hundred and twenty two years old. Don't wanna tie the future of the club to this. One guy that one guy that happens to be messy right but there's a generation of fans who don't know a barcelona without messy so for people that are unfamiliar with the club itself like what does barcelona look like without messy like in the past has been this global fee. Nom that that that it's been grown into the last few decades not really messy and the club's rice greatness coincide and is not only because of messy messy comes at the start of the two thousand. He makes his debut in two thousand full as part of this. What turns out to be incredible spanish generation. Who will come from the club's academy savvy on this and yet sta jarred. Pk and the spaniards in the team win the world cup and twenty seven without messy so these incredible is as well just whole generation comes out of the academy together amd between two thousand sixteen thousand fifteen. They win the champions league full times will. That's fulltime more than barcelona have won the champions league in the history. Full messy arrives so really before messy. This is not a great club. This is just the club of the second city of a mid size not very rich european country so the years greatness i think with hindsight will say what brief and beautiful. Maybe no clubs bite played better salko than a bustle. Owner didn't the messier's and there is no kind of recapturing of that era and remember messy as study full even if you keep him but playing in a very wink team because there's no money to have other good players. You're never going to go back to that gloria's and lost yo without him with him. Last year. they finished side in the spanish league. Is there a chance that i mean. Is there a way for barsha to do what. American sports teams do which is tear. Down and rebuild. Know part of the problem that barcelona's seems to be that there's been bad management on the soccer side as well as on the financial side they should've traded messy for a bunch of first round draft pick. I mean this is a team that turned down offers for lanham baabda and erling holland two of the best players in europe right now when they were teenagers i mean. Is there a way out of this competitively and financially for barsha. I mean if you turn out to have an incredibly lucky and brilliant hand picking young talent both from your own academy and what they did lawsuit with Votes him for a basic five million euros which is nothing age seventeen kit from the canary islands. Just play the olympic final. Would spain has been a revelation. You know if you can do that five times over which is very difficult than suddenly you have kind of the equivalent of five us. Round draft picks. That is very hard to do. And then the last ten years has given no signs that they have the now to do that. I think the problem is they. Stop thinking when you're number one you stop thinking and clubs like liverpool and buying munich and manchester city just thought hotter in the last decade. What for you is the moment for messy barsa. Barsa the whether it's a a game or a goal or something else that really stands for the kind of synergy between him and the club at its at its peak. The champions league final at wembley in london ten years ago busload manchester united much English champions you had sold. They might be the best team in europe and they were played off the puck by messy in barcelona the fuss twenty minutes after half-time. I mean i say in the book where the says this is what we were aiming for. This is the kind of football we had in our heads. And i think i am nine hundred thousand people. Even menu fans left the stadium lace at that day we saw a soccer that we will probably never again see an lives of quality and a beauty that even alex ferguson's manchester united manager. He said we've never been beaten like that. Some it's it just seems like you've been preparing for this day for a while right. That people have been sort of gearing up that it was going to regardless it. Just maybe happened. a little. Sooner than people expected does seem fair. I think that's family. When i started the book in twenty nine thousand nine. I will see the cracks in the ceiling. But the cathedral's not about to collapse. And i was still i was gonna write a book about the greatness of the club and i have but also written a book about the decline in full and sunny. The cathedral collapse. That probably happened lost yet and now kind of the angel on the altar has dissipated and this has happened way quicker than we thought but you know human creation is forever and i think uniworld dwelling now on the downside and the mismanagement and the disgrace. But i think we should also remember this. Was this unique thing that they created in this. Relatively small town and people will remember forever. That the suckered i soul and there's no way that's gonna loss Bustling is not new york. Bus loan is not london. This is a one off. Simon cooper is a columnist for the financial times. His new book is called the barcelona complex leeann l. messy and the making and unmaking of the world's greatest soccer club you can pre-order it now. It's out next week. Simon is also the author of other terrific soccer books including soccer nomex soccer against the enemy and soccer men..

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

Caught Offside

09:42 min | 10 months ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

"Caught offside with andrew. Gummy and jj davani yet bought off burbs of new york city from the emerald isle ireland andrew. Going and j. j. and vani what's up brother. Hey man how. how're you doing. Well more importantly how are you. How's uh life in the homeland. Life homeland is great. Andrew eight. Say it's an interesting home life They've just mown the grass beside miester that fresh smell of grass in the air and also. It's it's notable for another reason. It's a europa europa europa conference league of extraordinary. Gentlemen evening in slagle But there's only four hundred fans allowed. And i shall not be one of them but temps rovers with with a big night in europe against so. There's a little bit of a buzz around albeit not as beta buzzed. Because not that many people can go to the game. I realize lago was in this competition we could we wind up with a a caught offside cup of a brand new kind. Were smuggled trail one nil from the first leg Boss the home leg they played. They played very well in the in the first leg. So and they'll have their wounded kin. Johnny kenny back to play tonight. So maybe rovers progress on its leg rovers versus tottenham for the first time since a tottenham preseason tour in nineteen ninety-one one. I am so horribly cursed in our caught offside cup match ups that i am thoroughly convinced you would smash us absolutely take us apart. That would be my expectation. Yeah maybe that's a possibility. Let's see this should be a really fun. Podcast that we have coming up for you today. There's a couple big stories in the news. obviously that we're going to get to leonov messy First and foremost talk a little bit about the gold cup. I know the the match against haiti is kind of news and match against martinique is taking place later today. Depending on when you're listening to this kind of in terms of the us men were kind of recording a bit of an awkward moment but we will still talk a little bit about them. Some first impressions from this team in haiti match and jj of course the part of this that. I'm probably most excited for. Today is We've all had time to breathe after that. Exhilarating final on sunday at the euros between england and italy. We've kind of allowed our thoughts to settle and we'll go through some of our final takeaways from what was a really truly fun month of soccer in europe So we'll get some final takeaways on on what went down throughout the continent but We start jj with the big story from the last couple of days. And the will he or won't he of the past year or so has now been confirmed. He will lionel messi returning to barcelona. Not just returning there. But we're doing so on a five year deal. The financial terms have not yet been disclosed. But everybody is reporting. That is a significant pay reduction which was always going to have to be the case given barcelona's unbelievable debt and given the fact that Malaita was not even let them submit their roster or submit all their additions to their roster a guero dot is still need. They still need to trim fat. And so let's get right into it. First of all the messy angle of this. So i i will say jj when we. I remember the report happening during the pandemic and doing i don't know if it was an emergency podcast. Or what but we you know we got together and did a whole thing on messy demanding to leave barcelona that it was over and i do remember us kind of approaching it with a measured tone. Sort of a okay. Let's let's allow cooler heads to prevail here and see. Let's not jump to wild conclusions. It was certainly possible that it was the end. I believed messy in that he wanted to go But boy the the fabric of his life and career is so interwoven in that club. It just seemed hard to untangle all those threads and in the end. A presidential election took place for the club that he was almost the signature issue and with laporta. Winning like we always said about for laporta was vote for messy and that kind of wound up being the case here. Yeah from the messy side of things. I don't think this is really a surprise. And you know. I've been thinking about what simon cooper said last summer during all the drama where we thought. That's it he's gone. He's had enough of everything as essential as he's being to barcelona for fifteen twenty years. This isn't a one way street like i. I wanna forget the football just for a moment and think about Because simon cooper did a deep dive on them for a book that we hope to have a simon on to talk about. But you know. Forget the love of of barcelona which he clearly has forget the football side of things for a second. He loves living in barcelona and he loves his house and his neighborhood and the relatively considering his status as the world's most famous athlete the relative privacy of his existence. And if you think that they're only three possible top level destinations for him outside of barsa so london paris or manchester if he went to either one of any of those all those home comforts disappear if he moves and i. I suppose he's kind of know you know he's had a weight. Lifted off on the international scene and he can do what he tried to do in twenty eighteen which was focus all the attention on barcelona winning what they need to win. And you know. I suppose if you if you put those angles together. This this makes sense for from his perspective Yeah i think so. And i think there's something to the allure of him ending his career as a one club man with lona. I think there is something important about that kind of four for whatever this matter somebody with for his brand not to cut across you know lino. He will consider himself a one club man he moves to. Mls that's you know. He didn't consider himself that but he wouldn't be. He he would be really will be. That would move to. Mls at the stage in his career at which he'd be out would be a a lifestyle move. Let's not let's not kid ourselves here. The exact reason that. I don't consider stephen girard a one club man. I absolutely consider well. You'd be wrong okay. with regards to messy in the situation like we said barcelona. This is not this is can we. Can we talk about what this means for them on the field like obviously having the on your team is his massive be obvious statement of the century and with him. You know they immediately not become remain a title contender both in europe and of course domestically but there there have been conversations about okay. What is actually best for this club now like we said i'm seeing now. Jj at sky sports and some other places that it's a fifty percent pay reduction that messy is going to be taking still an incredible sum of money that he'll be pocketing because what he was making before was bonkers makes sense given his talent what he means to the club but it was still insane so they still are going to have to make a lot of moves and get rid of players that are seemingly valuable to them You know there's there's been a lot of talk about a potential swap with antoine. Going back to let it madrid and soul potentially going to barcelona which i think you know wouldn't be such a terrible thing but again barscelona are gonna have to make some changes and reduce their wage structure significantly given the fact that last season they finished third that they didn't advance nearly as far as they would have liked to in europe. Are barcelona moving forward or is this you know great as messy is are they kind of just in a in a moment of plateau here. I think your moment to plateau is is a good point. I think from their standpoint in a financial crisis they have managed to keep their their crown jewel. It's a short term winge however this is the virus loaner that no longer can expect to win in with messy can't dominate domestically with them. And so it's hard not to feel that this contract might might stifle the painful rebuilding process. That has to begin at some point. Nope you you you said there about you know. It's a significant pay reduction. It's still a lot of money signing marsden of espn has tweeted this. Some reports say will be fifty percent caught if that was true including the image rights contract. His new deal would be worth thirty six million euros gross still about almost fifty million dollars excluding the image rights deal more like thirty million euros. That's ignoring bonuses. However sources have indicated that messy will be paid more and twenty two twenty three then this twenty one twenty two and it's not simply an x. Percent caught it staggered to help barcelona now buying them time to get their house in order next year regardless more cuts donated to register this deal and how however much it is still a lot of money post contracts straightforward etc..

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Can the Dutch save the world from the danger of rising sea levels?

FT News

10:24 min | 2 years ago

Can the Dutch save the world from the danger of rising sea levels?

"The Netherlands is the best protect data in the world with centuries of experience in holding back the floodwaters as climate change causes sea levels to rise can touch expertise. Help Save the world cities that are most at risk or think so bad that they will struggle to even save themselves themselves. Simon Cooper has looked into this question and he's with me now to discuss what he discovered. Hi Simon Esta so about a third of the Netherlands. ORLANDS is below sea level including the capital Amsterdam. You grew up in Leiden that also below sea level and were you aware of the risk of flooding. When you're a child ounce on facial redness blow sea level? I must say I never checked during my childhood. There's also a lot of land. That's not below sea level but susceptible to river flooding. WHO's three great rivers above the Rhine and in the Netherlands on my Johnny's to the sea? So you'll always closer river all see. I mean I grew up in Leiden as as you say. Which is I? Don't know about five miles from the same and it's reclaimed. Glands that Western Netherlands is where most of the population lives. So you know very large. Pasta appellation are most of the economy is they're threatened by the see below sea level and the funny thing is that because the Dutch of being so good since the disastrous Austral slaughtered nineteen fifty. Three of keeping the. I'm ribs it pay you better. Think about it in your daily life. I mean they're canals and you got fishing and did you learn to swim as soon as you can. Because it's unsafe to live in the Netherlands. Not being able to swim but generally you just don't think about the threat of flooding the Wolf's experts. I spoke to. This story complained that the population has always complacent. They assume the Netherlands would always be safe from the walls have given the geographical factors. That play is it the case. That's dot. History is littered with flooding disasters up to a certain point. I think you mentioned the last very serious floods Richard in the nineteen fifties. Yeah I mean. The Dutch spent centuries trying to deal with the wolves so plenty of the ELDA. The Roman author was stationed. There I think is a tribune in the first century idea and he he says look at being flooded all the time like wall miserable limbs by the fire of mud and it's just terrible and for centuries being flooded and people drowning was possibly cost of living in that area so they reclaim line from the seat. I built dikes. They did the best to maintain the bikes. It didn't always go well so for example. twenty-one thousands thousands of people were killed in floods maintaining the dykes is always sort of what history is being about. It wasn't always done well. So nineteen fifty three is the walls showed literally you get these disastrous floods kill about eighteen hundred people know. Madeleine's another three hundred dollars. Nason England something there. I think the English would largely forgotten by the doctor having forgotten that so often the fifty three flood the government says right never again and they set up a commission. The Commission says you have to build incredibly expensive defenses and it's going to take decades and cost in tax in this country that has been left low by the wall which is ready poll with people emigrating to the United States Australia and the DOT com says yes. We'll just do it because we have this again. One of the things you write about in the Steve Dunn for fifty we can magazine is something something called the Paul. D'Amato can you just tell us a little bit about what that is. Yes Oh upholder is a piece of reclaimed linemates flatlined and when you take a train through the Netherlands you see everywhere. He's very flat fields often. I see some cows grazing next to the cow will be a massive office block. Is the Docs use every inch of space in the small country and canals to carry off the water and the thing about the pulled. Ramon del as they reclaimed this line but the line was incredibly vulnerable because is one flood and everybody drown us so each district had to maintain its own dykes and in the Netherlands centuries yet terrible religious disputes and people killing each each other promising Catholic woes from fifteen sixty eight and so there was always political division but in the end it didn't really mice what religion you. You had some tightening talk so they created the system of negotiation compromise. You know the local weather being elected and sitting in committees about what's going on with our dyke and so it creates this very politics that exists today of compromise in pragmatism. You had to set the religious stuff and the audiology one side in the end. You just tattoo wet together to survive and mostly things were managed very well so today politics. I mean I think of it as a one party system you have have different policies but that was in coalition with each other and one full more another and so whether or the sensor ride. BVD All green left. All the centre-left peeve on the you're always having to negotiate and deal with each other in a pragmatic way and the Dutch coal that pulled him Odell and the golden so pulling means to sit down and hammer out a compromise compromise that nobody is going to get excited about it. I mean it just fearless. Though as we're seeing sea levels rise that kind of model of cooperation is going to be more and more needed around the world but I mean the other thing overseas money. Do we know roughly how much the Dutch spend each year on flood defences well money. I mean the surprise me. When I was researching the story money in a way is the easy bit I mean? The doctor saves money by spreading their spending. On dykes over seven hundred years. He is but nowadays they spend about a billion euros year on flood defences which given the most of the country's susceptible to floods is where you know bad it's commit more than north point one percents of GDP so the average person just really doesn't exit and obviously doing it from scratch like New Orleans. Now I mean New Orleans which is sort of similar bliss situations of the Netherlands has spent fifteen billion or US suspect fifteen billion levies etcetera. Protecting New Elaine. Since two thousand and five but if that's the cost of the survival of a place is actually not that bad so wealthy countries can do this. The biggest problem is that they don't have pulled a modell they don't have this. Pragmatic take compromise long-term spending which the Dutch you spend on dykes even when there's no crisis even when you haven't been flooded in decades you just do it all the time we know in the US. For example Donald it is just a big problem with spending any infrastructure so they weren't even on potentially life-saving infrastructure. Like dykes levees. So you have to think long term which is the the problem in many societies whereas spending don ends political rhythm so the new government the new president will spend something in the next one more of us. The ducks don't do that. Doesn't Marie Masters and government money got spent and the other thing is that you have to have a national program. You can't say will you happen to live in the two square gweat miles. That's most susceptible to flooding. So you must find the couple of billion it will take you to protect yourself against the wall Cher. No this is a national thing so we have have a national plan and national taxes to raise the money for wo suspending. Even can be a bit more if you live in. wosa threatened district broadly the whole population pays and the other thing. Is that good defenses ready. What when it's a national strategy because if you build a dike or Levee to protect your factory or your neighborhood ed or your apartment building and you see that in Miami where some buildings after on seawall then you're actually endangering the neighbors because the voices will hit your seawall? I'm be diverted to the neighbors so you can't have some people protecting themselves and others not which is very common along the US coasts. The ducks done do that. The whole whole country is protected so I came away thinking countries like the. US can folded countries like Bangladesh. Perhaps not but they don't have the long term they don't don't have the culture of negotiation and compromise and they don't have the National Corporation that you need to do this successfully. Some of these places have been turning to the Dutch asking asking for advice. Is that right. Yeah so I went to the Moslems kidding which is the big storm surge barrier that protects the rouse Ma'am Haba one Dutch official described it smears the front door of the Netherlands so is always waiting to close if the waters rise. Three macy's they haven't since it was completed twenty three years ago so so a lot of foreign visitors come to the Muslim caring because more and more cities around the world thinking of building storm surge. Barrett's the Italians are thinking about it. Venice has some protection protection. Maybe not enough George. Bush was recent visit. He's the Texas Land Commissioner. I think he's the nephew of George. W and George. Bush is trying to think of ways to protect Houston and ironically it's oil refineries from the rising waters which caused caused by the carbon emissions made by those are refineries arrays and so they come to the Netherlands. Look at these models of what the Dutch do and see if they could work in their own countries and to some degree the model model is the easy bit. The infrastructure is the easy but you can't build storm surge barrier but you have to keep monitoring dotting its spending on maintaining it and also so given the wolves are rising checking every couple of years. How long will my barrier last? Are we going to need to build a whole new on. We're GONNA need to build Out Bigger because if you build it for say a meter of rising waters it might not be able to save the water rises one and a half nieces and apart from the Moslem carrying this other flood defence strategy being used by the Dutch. Yeah I mean it's a whole system of dikes. If you woke woke along the seacoast you don't see the waterfront properties that you see in American real estate ads. Where you'll deck overlooks the ocean? And The Netherlands. Nobody lives CBS on the beach. You have the beach and then you have the Junes. which are these man made hills of signed that stopped the C- coming in and you can only live behind the junes? Then you have these sluices which can open or close depending so the real Saddam Hall. The Muslim king is open because as I was standing by the catering watching ships coming in and out on the way to Britain and elsewhere and is able to close. It's like a door that opened it's able to close it's the Walsh's rise so it's a very flexible and complex system the difference in every place in the country but that

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"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

Caught Offside

01:40 min | 3 years ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on Caught Offside

"I think he's done. All right. I think he'd be okay. Yeah. But like his job is this job is potentially at stake is team like relegated. Like, he should be really really mad on like an injustice like that. I don't want to go back to your share without mid. Dylan Hiti, he notes that in. I XE the war Simon Cooper addresses saying Holland instead of the Netherlands, oh, it's actually a Nolan the text. Strictly speaking the word. Holland only refers to two western provinces of the Netherlands in this book. I have often used it to me in the country as a whole I have yet to meet a Dutch person who would be offended by this. So it's something that they that is just accepted. It's just accept Holland and the Netherlands are synonymous, even though the literal definition is not one in the same. Correct. And I I mean, I've read ice the war. I've never seen that note. But I believe that it's there, and that's fine. That's fine. Let's can we check in with Amsterdam police and see what did. Hello there. We got the Stephane vendor. House Gluck of the police again, they didn't really have a thin commandant. No, no. However, they I meant to tell you you see who lost his job today. No. I think we we are not just what you call underdogs. Steve Steve's out a QBR. Oh, oh, no. Yeah. We have some keep your listeners, by the way. Well, I'm sure they have some thoughts. If they want to tweet them at CO soccer pod. Kevin cock sends an Email entitled kings of smug. No people have been waiting for this Email. Love the podcast. You guys a great. But you have now taken smog and hypocrisy to new Neville on your last pot. No, not our last part. It's two weeks ago blasting the bandwagon Lester fine, Andrew were you born in.

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"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

ESPN FC

01:35 min | 3 years ago

"simon cooper" Discussed on ESPN FC

"I think he's done. All right. I think he'd be okay. Yeah. But like his job is this job. As potentially at stake is team like relegated. Like, he should be really really mad on like an injustice like that. I don't want to go back to your share without Miguel. Dylan hiti. He notes that in. I the of the war Simon Cooper addresses saying Holland instead of the Netherlands, oh, it's actually a northern the text. Strictly speaking the word. Holland only refers to two western provinces of the Netherlands in this book. I have often used it to me in the country as a whole I have yet to meet a Dutch person who would be offended by this. So it's something that they that is just accepted. It's just accept Holland and the Netherlands are synonymous, even though the literal definition is not one in the same. Correct. And I I mean, I've read I that the war. I've never seen that note. But I believe that it's there, and that's fine. That's fine. Let's can we check them with Amsterdam police and see what it's. Hello there. Meet got the Stephane vendor. House Gluck of the student police again, they didn't really have a thin commandant. No, no. However, they. I meant to tell you you see who lost his job today. No. I think we we are not just what you call underdogs. Steve Steve's out a QBR. Oh, oh, no. Yeah. We have some keep your listeners, by the way. Well, I'm sure they have some thoughts. If they want to tweet them at C soccer pod. Kevin cock sends an Email entitled kings of smug. No people have been waiting for this Email. Love the podcast you guys. A grant put you have now taken smog and hypocrisy to new Neville on your last pot. No, not our last part..

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